[00:01] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.75.5) joined ##slackware. [00:01] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.131) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:02] /cl [00:02] denied :P [00:02] fail [00:04] ahh the fun an d joys [00:05] hmm [00:06] berke (n=will@nv-67-232-151-51.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:06] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-59-128.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] greetings again MLanden :) [00:06] heya,slackers [00:07] heya,fire|bird [00:08] gah [00:08] MLanden: I'm messing with openSUSE 11.2 live cd: http://imagebin.org/71504 <---gnome desktop. [00:08] not to u, just another channel [00:08] try and get info is like pulling teeth [00:08] fire|bird; so how do you like opensuse/ [00:09] ? [00:09] hitest: It's quite nice. I was surprised by how nice the default artwork is, I haven't booted an openSUSE live cd in ages. [00:09] cool,fire|bird....which gtk+ library? [00:09] awesome [00:10] MLanden: Hmm, murrine I think, but not sure. the theme is Sonar http://www.opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Sonar+Patched?content=111593 [00:10] fire|bird: meant to say...>2.16 [00:11] MLanden: doh! :P I'll check. sec. [00:11] hitest: for gui, it uses packagekit. :P [00:11] ... [00:11] I dont know what to do with my desktop [00:12] I've been using my laptop *exclusively* for the past 6 months [00:12] and my desktop is gathering dust [00:12] redtricycle: send it to me :D [00:12] =/ [00:12] what do you guys use your desktops for? [00:12] MLanden: 2.18.1 [00:12] I move around too much for a desktop to be useful... =( [00:12] redtricycle: i use my laptop as a desktop [00:12] i don't move it [00:14] lordkelmain (n=lordkelm@ip68-5-13-113.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:14] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:14] fire|bird: cool....was trying a new mp3 player called gejengel but couldn't build since it needs the newer c++ bindings for the newer gtk(i.e. gtkmm,pangomm) [00:15] MLanden: ah, cool. [00:16] fire|bird: so what is YAST like now? [00:16] but,my c++ libraries up-to-date for 2.14...:P [00:16] lordkelmain (n=lordkelm@ip68-5-13-113.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:16] only pangomm needs to be updated for gejengel [00:16] hitest: Well, haven't used it a lot, but seems nice what I've seen so far. [00:17] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: "Leaving." [00:17] Why does most people seem keen on disabling tap-to-click on notebook touchpads? [00:17] gejengel. isn't that the exercise you do to make your penis bigger? [00:17] hahaha [00:17] fire|bird, good to hear, it was horribly broken in suse 10.1 [00:17] lordkelmain: because some find it annoying [00:17] briareus: that's kegel exercises. [00:17] no, kegels are for women [00:17] lol [00:18] jelq, that's what I was thinking of [00:18] kegels are for men as well [00:18] jelqing your dork [00:18] stomach vacuums ftw [00:18] exhale, then pull your abs inward as if you were trying to make them touch your spine [00:18] hold for as long as you can hold your breath [00:19] antiwire: strengthening your vagina? [00:19] --me too [00:19] my naus [00:19] anus [00:19] ... [00:19] I think I'm ok with my anal strength [00:19] you must have a powerful anal sphincter to deal with modern society [00:19] When do you know it's strong enough so you can cut back on the exercises? [00:19] LOL agreed [00:20] and a controlled vomit reflex [00:20] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "some things i will never understand. till i do, i shall nuke them" [00:20] fire|bird: when you can slice a pepperoni stick clean in half [00:20] haha [00:20] then spit out the other half at velocity [00:20] Action: hitest wonders wtf we're talking about [00:20] lol [00:20] hitest: linux kernels [00:20] hitest: some things are best left unknown. ;) [00:20] ah [00:21] hehe [00:21] and their relative anal strength on the desktop [00:21] this is one of those things. [00:21] I see [00:21] personally, I like to config my /etc/anal.conf to PINCH=10 [00:22] (but only when I'm init4) [00:22] o_o [00:22] briareus: what about at init 1 ? [00:23] fire|bird: well, I find PINCH=4 (or less) [00:23] grep -i pepperoni /etc/anal.conf | grep PINCH [00:23] (might want to write that one down) [00:24] nah, no need, it will haunt my irc logs forever now. [00:24] too funny [00:24] I have a serious question about lilo [00:24] my pinch goes to 11 [00:24] in slackware (and I don't know why only slackware I noticed it) when I run lilo, I get these messages every time: [00:25] /proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found [00:25] Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel? [00:25] Failure to communicate with kernel device-mapper driver. [00:25] anal? [00:25] lol [00:25] but I can't find any /pro/misc like it seems to want [00:25] briareus: is proc mounted? [00:25] antiwire: well duh, that's because of the exercises, you've went up a level. [00:25] antiwire: I would hope so, I think so, I dunno [00:25] antiwire: the question is, how much more pinch can one acheive? and the answer is none, nore more pinch. [00:26] Action: briareus loves Spinal Tap [00:27] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [00:27] I can go into /proc [00:27] and I see it in mount [00:28] I suppose that means proc is mounted [00:28] proc on /proc type proc (rw) [00:28] i have to move the mouse around in order to make the harddrive read with ahci enabled on my lenovo s12 in 9.10. anyone familiar with this issue and know about threads covering it? [00:28] hm, happens in compatibility mode too aparently. less frequently tho [00:28] oh shit. wrong channel again. sorry.... [00:28] been up all night, ignore me.. [00:29] gerrh: you need to put the PoopDing into RAMUS so that the clavicle can exceed Port 19 [00:29] ok! thx u! [00:29] just remember: a gleekzorp without a tornpee is like a quop without a fertsneet [00:30] (well, sort of) [00:30] ah. it's all so clear now [00:30] i must have misread gleekzorp as gleeksorb [00:32] I wrote a HOWTO for it here: http://is.gd/4TUyV [00:33] briareus: what are you smoking?.....I want some:) [00:33] deco: so is that unusual? that lilo message? lilo appears to function completely normally, just that message is odd [00:34] neonflux: Have you tried gejengel? [00:34] hitest: not smoking anything, I'm just a good american like yourself. [00:34] briareus: i dunno [00:35] briareus: okay then:) [00:36] Action: hitest waves goodnight to his friends....calling it a day:) [00:36] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:36] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:38] MLanden: not really...just built it then ran it once [00:38] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:39] neonflux: ok [00:41] anyone know what in .config the 'device mapper driver' is? [00:42] I grepped for map and find several things, none of which look like anything to do with /proc or lilo or whatever [00:43] briareus: dmmod [00:43] thanks [00:43] Gutzmek (n=here@ip174-70-131-136.ks.ks.cox.net) left irc: "grep this b" [00:43] hmm [00:44] can't search for that in menuconfig, grepping [00:44] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.50.62) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:45] briareus: try searching for "CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM" [00:46] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:46] feinom_: I see, under RAID and LVM [00:47] I don't know why lilo would want that in my system [00:47] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.50.62) joined ##slackware. [00:47] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@80-123-56-209.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [00:47] is there a way to flush the elf files cached in memory? [00:48] but I'll enable M it to make lilo happy [00:48] take care,folks..talk with all later [00:49] night MLanden [00:49] I got a weird bug It was like /usr/lib/kde3/kio_file.so corrupt but when I rebooted it was fine [00:49] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-207-68-59-128.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:49] dissociative: not specific to elf files, but you can clear the cache with sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches [00:49] I hope it is not bad memory [00:54] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [00:57] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@80-123-59-208.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [00:58] roccity_ (n=mrpresid@ip-118-90-22-118.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [00:58] redtricy1le (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-13-218.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:59] thanks feinom_ [01:00] giuppy (n=giuppy@host172-170-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[01:09] hi g4tt0 [01:09] ZMR_ (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:09] ^^ goood morning fire|bird ^^ [01:10] hi [01:12] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-146.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:12] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:12] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.50.62) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:13] darylc (n=dc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:17] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-13-218.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:17] giuppy (n=giuppy@host172-170-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:17] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:19] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [01:22] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [01:23] redtricy1le (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-13-218.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:25] I've noticed with KD4 that mplayer/xine whatever when they open a video that is larger than my desktop resolution they just make the window fit the screen. Know a method for forcing to make a window larger than my screen size? [01:25] or is that something KDE4 won't do anymore? [01:25] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Client Quit [01:25] giuppy (n=giuppy@host172-170-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:27] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [01:30] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:30] uhm, what? [01:31] Wescotte: you want it to "pan and scan", cut off part of the picture? [01:31] or you mean, you want it to switch to a higher res than your normal desktop res? [01:32] hey shouting|unattended [01:32] er Urchlay [01:33] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [01:36] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [01:36] how do i install wpa supplicant [01:37] strike|forts [01:37] that's a weird one [01:37] lol [01:37] Urchlay: apparently yours was in the military. :P [01:40] Urchlay: Yes pan and scan [01:40] oobe, use slackpkg. [01:40] Urchlay: I just want to be able to see a 1080p image cropped on my lower resolution notebook.. Trying to find defects is harder when it scales down.. [01:41] Wescotte: it's probably an option in ~/.mplayer/config, probably somewhere in the giant mess that is the mplayer man page... it's not something I'd expect KDE to be doing for you though [01:41] slackpkg search wpa (for the package name) oobe then: slackpkg install $THAT-NAME [01:41] oobe, edit /etc/slackpkg/mirrors to uncomment the right mirror for your install (the wrong one won't work right). [01:41] in fact, mplayer's got a "-vf crop" option, I remember that off the top of my head [01:41] Then run what briareus said. [01:42] Urchlay: my .mplayer/config is empty.. and in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf everythign is commented out.. It wasn't having this behavior in slack12.2.. [01:43] Urchlay: Also, xine is doing it as well.. I just assumed it was something with KDE4.. [01:43] if it's cropping by default, that's a *bug*, and the new mplayer probably fixes that bug [01:44] (sorry, even if it was useful to you, it was still not what's supposed to happen: mplayer's supposed to scale the video so it fits the screen) [01:44] briareus, i dont seem to have slackpkg installed its a fresh install what folder is it in [01:45] oobe: Did you run slackpkg as root? [01:46] yea gotcha [01:46] thanks [01:47] Urchlay: It used to just open it to the proper resolution and I could drag the window around.. [01:47] Urchlay: kinda liked that feature :) [01:49] one man's bug is another man's feature... but you could probably look through the mplayer changelogs and see whether it mentions anything to do with cropping (it might mention how to revert to the old behaviour) [01:49] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [01:51] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [01:51] Urchlay: good idea [01:53] roccity_ (n=mrpresid@ip-118-90-22-118.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:55] Nick change: feinom_ -> feinoM [01:56] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:56] suat (n=slackwar@78.174.47.223) joined ##slackware. [01:57] Nick change: suat -> suatalpoglu [01:58] Nick change: madbear_ -> madbear [01:59] suatalpoglu (n=slackwar@78.174.47.223) left irc: Client Quit [02:00] when im typing in console to quickly scroll back to the start of the line im typing i usually press ctl left arrow and it jumps back but in slackware in just make 5D [02:00] characters im using USA keyboard profile anyone know how to fix that one [02:00] the console trick you mention sounds like some customized hotkey [02:03] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:03] aiiiiiii (n=Ig0r@Tribalero.Atlantica.US) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:03] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:07] aiiiiiii (n=Ig0r@Tribalero.Atlantica.US) joined ##slackware. [02:08] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [02:10] peace ya'll. be well. [02:10] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [02:10] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [02:10] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever."). [02:11] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [02:11] moha__ (n=mohaa@188.115.65.103) joined ##slackware. [02:15] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [02:21] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [02:23] Nick change: bosse_ -> nille_ [02:28] mancha, nah its pretty standard [02:28] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-vrtjerlzbtlyauvm) joined ##slackware. [02:28] to the point where when that behaviour does not happen the user percieves it as a bug [02:29] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.75.5) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:31] I have become comfortably numb [02:34] oobe: search about inputrc [02:36] oobe: you can press ctrl-A to jump to the start of the line [02:36] twolf: hello hello is there anybody in there ? [02:36] that's very standard, and would annoy a lot of people if it didn't work... [02:37] PiterPunk, thanks thats exactly what i was looking for [02:37] twolf: drinking, smoking, or just listening to some Floyd? [02:37] works great [02:37] Urchlay: I drank some beers and had a Pink Floyd moment [02:37] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Client Quit [02:38] I may be joining you shortly (if there's any vodka left) [02:39] playing "human compiler", rewriting some C code in 6502 assembly, by hand. A certain amount of alcohol helps... [02:39] Axius (n=ade@92.82.94.217) joined ##slackware. [02:39] ouch [02:39] not "ouch", I do 6502 stuff for fun (I really need to get a life, I suppose) [02:40] I learned some C to avoid learning assembler [02:40] i learned some linux so i could stop using my brain [02:40] :D [02:41] then they invented package managers, now i have to use my brain again ;( [02:43] my brain is damaged beyond repair, I am lucky to be able to do what I still can [02:43] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435766.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:44] hoho (i=root@s59.nlserver.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:44] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [02:45] hoho (n=hooh@190.80.199.59) joined ##slackware. [02:45] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [02:46] moha__ (n=mohaa@188.115.65.103) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [02:46] twolf: I wouldn't try to code anything in asm for a modern platform, other than a bit of messing with it just to see if I could [02:46] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.65.103) joined ##slackware. [02:47] Urchlay: coding for fun, is fun [02:47] Axius (n=ade@92.82.94.217) left irc: "Leaving" [02:47] yeah... am just now getting over my burnt-out-ness, to where I can code for fun again [02:47] jeagoss (i=jef@173.172.197.134) joined ##slackware. [02:48] not sure I'll ever code for money again (probably will, the money's just too good) [02:48] indeed [02:50] twolf: its okey just roll back the packages [02:50] your brain will start working again, remember to do a depmod though [02:50] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-13-218.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:52] acidchil1: so is that like an acid-flashback or something? [02:52] because I qualify [02:52] sure. [02:52] how do i shutdown kdm [02:53] you can't lol! [02:53] acidchil1: I can haz bike! :) [02:53] you can kill it enough until it gives up :P or you could just press control alt + F3 [02:53] oobe: "/sbin/init 3" to temporarily drop to console-only mode. Change "id:4" to "id:3" in /etc/inittab and run "/sbin/init q" to make the change permanent [02:53] BP{k}: ME TOO! [02:53] acidchil1, erm you dont know how doesnt mean you cant [02:53] OMG, pictures PLEASE [02:53] :D:D [02:54] Urchlay, thanks [02:54] oobe: what Urchlay said? [02:54] ;) [02:54] acidchil1: http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/bike_path/fx/72fx/ [02:54] anybody built conky with wireless enabled? [02:54] i just got a new norco, ridged framed mountain bike [02:54] BP{k}: nice ride [02:54] Urchlay, why that and not telinit? [02:54] twolf: it is :) [02:54] one piece stem and handle bars.. the thing flys [02:54] BP{k}: damn, nice racer :D [02:55] BP{k}: http://www.norco.com/bikes/2009-specials/shore-hardtail/09-rampage/ <=--- i want [02:55] lordkelmain: eh, because "telinit" is just a symlink to "init", and I'm a lazy typist (they do the same thing, seriously) [02:55] acidchil1: went in on monday to buy it .. had to weight an hour while they checked it over and put other kit on it .. biked it home the same night :) [02:55] I got an oldschool schwinn, still rides well thankfully [02:55] check out the Truvativ Hammerschmidt crank with internal 2 speed design eliminating a front derailleur and chainguide [02:55] Urchlay, no, about editing fstab, I meant. [02:55] inittab, you mean? [02:55] That. [02:55] acidchil1: very sweet and sdhiny [02:56] Then again, I have no idea what oobe is doing now. [02:56] hahah [02:56] "init 3" and "telinit 3" do exactly the same thing, but one is 3 more keys to press... [02:56] BP{k}: i did 15km tonight :) [02:56] its 3*C too [02:57] acidchil1: meh, who cares about temperature .. if you're cold on a bike you're not going fast enough ;) [02:57] Urchlay, good point.... [02:57] acidchil1: as long as it dry .. ;) [02:57] lordkelmain: that's probably just a Linux-ism, and wouldn't work on *BSD or Solaris or whatever [02:57] BP{k}: lol, my fingers went an odd colour last night ;) time to get some comfortable gloves. [02:57] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:58] but, eh, I assume he's running Slackware Linux, not Slackware BSD (if only that existed...) [02:58] hahah [02:58] acidchil1: yeah that's probably my next investment some decent gloves [02:58] BP{k}: and a U lock? :) [02:58] two... for a new bike dude.. [02:59] acidchil1: already got those :) [02:59] bah, i have no idea why you getting a new bike is so exciting for me [02:59] thats why I ride an old bike, it doesn't catch the theives eyes and it rides like a dream [02:59] hahaha, i just understand the joy! [03:00] twolf: my friend rides a pink and yellow bike for that same reason [03:00] acidchil1: hehe yeah :) it's good to be out .. hopefully today is better weather so I'll probably go out for a ride later :) [03:00] lol [03:00] wootwoot [03:00] acidchil1: does that bike have a basket with flowers on the front too? :P [03:01] and training wheels ;) [03:01] haha naw, i'm gonna put some gay pride flags on it though when its locked up outside his work ;) [03:01] haha [03:01] hehe [03:01] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [03:01] :> [03:01] haha [03:01] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [03:01] that is a sure fire way to keep it from being stolen, gay stickers [03:01] lol [03:02] mmm naw, we live downtown toronto [03:02] and he lives in 'the vilage' [03:02] so....he'll probly just get second looks from now on [03:03] acidchil1: add some lace and ribbon on the seat too. ;) [03:03] awe, it would look so nice :D [03:03] acidchil1: also, add cards in the spokes to make sure he is both heard and seen. ;) [03:03] mmm... two speed crank.. without a chainguide.. thats bomb... [03:04] MooKimchi (n=kimchi@211.180.33.122) joined ##slackware. [03:05] evening [03:05] BP{k}: http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Truvativ-HammerSchmidt-Preview-2008.html [03:05] hey frullet, how's it going? [03:05] fire|bird: doing well, yourself? [03:05] frullet: great, thank you. :) [03:07] BP{k}: kinda clever eh? [03:08] BP{k}: omg its like 600$ though [03:11] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-yevmeoilpxedstbf) joined ##slackware. [03:12] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-219.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. 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[03:26] aha [03:28] lordkelmain (n=lordkelm@ip68-5-13-113.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:29] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:30] genetic engineered sickness, spreads amoung us.. [03:30] PenPerk1 (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:30] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igt-jW4e8ts [03:30] PenPerk1 (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:30] all about the lyrical hiphop tonight [03:32] MooKimchi (n=kimchi@211.180.33.122) left irc: "Leaving" [03:32] is google search working for you guys ? [03:33] yes. [03:33] ofcourse. [03:33] yes [03:33] Google is one of them people who can probly boast they have 100% uptime. [03:33] acidchil1 [03:34] are u running slack? [03:34] nope. [03:34] why not? [03:34] ;/ [03:34] because i dont have time these days to play with slackware. [03:34] but i've used it since slack 9. [03:35] newbe [03:35] its not a game [03:35] to play with [03:35] its an " OPERATING SYSTEM " [03:35] okey hoho :) [03:35] hey acidchil1 - how goes things? [03:35] :) [03:35] alisonken1noc: and FU [03:35] i dont use windows since slack 9 [03:35] i think ;p [03:35] interesting. gogole search not working for me [03:35] Action: acidchil1 didn't ever really use windows [03:36] other than computers at school. [03:36] ubuntu? [03:36] macos? [03:36] i run archlinux on my desktop, debian on my laptop [03:36] and i develope on a OS i built from LFS [03:36] run slackware on a few servers. [03:37] oh [03:37] cool [03:38] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) joined ##slackware. [03:38] good night [03:38] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [03:38] i was thinkin u was windows [03:38] oh yee underestimate me sir [03:38] sorry dude :( [03:38] i feel so bad now [03:39] did i hurt you? [03:39] nope. [03:39] your opinion would have to matter to hurt me ;-P [03:39] alisonken1noc: i'm doing well thanks :-P yourself? my AP i'm working on now pushs 600mbit/s!!! [03:40] acidchil1: cool - now if I can get that at home I'd be set :) [03:40] acidchil1: what o/s? [03:40] is that the lfs you mentioned? [03:41] alisonken1noc: its based on LFS. [03:41] linux from scratch? [03:41] so not the d/l compile version like open wrt then [03:41] lfs linux vrom scratch [03:41] what board/chipset? [03:42] atm its based on a VIA board. [03:42] i'm working on an ARM version atm [03:42] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.74.110) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:42] i686 [03:42] ah [03:42] nice one [03:43] going to try that new samsung WiMAX chip soon... [03:43] play around with it, see what its made of. [03:44] hoho (n=hooh@190.80.199.59) left irc: "s" [03:48] http://www.samsung.com/global/business/telecommunication/productInfo.do?ctgry_group=11&ctgry_type=16&b2b_prd_id=384 [03:49] * - Peak : 32Mbps / 6Mbps [03:49] * - Typical : 10Mbps / 3Mbps [03:49] that doesn't strike me as being oh so impressive. [03:52] frullet (n=hooch@203.214.23.90) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:52] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-219.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:59] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [04:00] tvn2009_ (i=61778ca9@gateway/web/freenode/x-kbpyfykfjggdpyyn) joined ##slackware. [04:00] Man-erg (n=meck@host-78-13-30-75.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [04:01] tvn2009_ (i=61778ca9@gateway/web/freenode/x-kbpyfykfjggdpyyn) left irc: Client Quit [04:05] yep [04:05] sorry for the delay - at the noc and it gets interesting every once in a while [04:07] haha, once in a while..indeed [04:07] during a power outage.. now thats some awesome-sauce. [04:07] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [04:10] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:13] anyone know what the default root password is for mysql [04:13] there isn't one. its blank.. but you have gotta have made your database to get to this stage... the password related information is all in the rc.mysqld file. [04:14] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [04:15] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-0-252.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:15] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-6-138.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:17] Morn [04:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [04:23] srecko (n=srecko@78-1-185-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [04:23] srecko (n=srecko@78-1-185-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [04:24] kk good thanks acidchil1 i was a step ahead of myself [04:27] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:27] hi. im running sw 13 on an old p133 and noticed apache2 is just too slow, so i wanna go back to apache1+php4, whats the best way to get those on (pref as packages) ? [04:27] someone smack me upside the head [04:32] jgeboski (n=jgeboski@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [04:33] with a wet mackerel? [04:34] joannis (n=joannis@95.102.5.86) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [04:35] paissad_ (n=paissad@89.87.195.22) joined ##slackware. [04:37] hy: you would probably be better of with slack 10.2 (iirc) [04:37] hy: and theres no way youll get an apache1 package for slack, nor would i point it out to you if there was one.. thats what SlackBuilds are for [04:38] s/slack/slack13/ [04:38] if i were you i would just tune the crap out of slack13.. stop any unnecessary daemons, slim the kernel down to a minimal size etc [04:39] yeah, done that. dont wanna go back to 10.2 since i just spent the last 3 weeks in upgraded from that to 13.0 haha [04:39] upgraded=upgrading [04:39] guess ill roll my own then [04:40] with a bag of bricks [04:40] you will probably find that apache1's dependencies are not fully satisfied by 13 anyway.. but if they are you could try the apache1 slackbuild from 10.2 [04:40] k. thanks [04:40] (im assuming 10.2 was the last apache1 ver.. im not certain) [04:41] i think 11.0 actually [04:42] would be cool if both apache1 and 2 were available like in some other distros, but i understand the reasons for ditching apache1 [04:42] actually.. there is one other solution [04:42] throw the p133 in a bin [04:42] hahaha [04:43] sir, i love that little box. its been doing its job for 6 years now (its basicly just a router with some extra stuff) [04:43] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [04:43] well yeah.. but i have better machines than that that i dont even have a use for.. they sit in cupboards because there's more than enough available boxes that are even better [04:44] around here >p133 = free [04:44] i really don't like slack's KDE and there are so many versions of GNOME... what should i chose? [04:44] same here, thats not the point :) [04:44] Azeotrope: slack's KDE = KDE [04:44] or try out lighthttpd or nginx [04:44] Azeotrope: opensuse's KDE = KDE [04:44] hm thats an idea agris [04:45] thats a fair point. [04:45] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:45] Azeotrope: xfce [04:45] or shell :) [04:45] Action: nooper could never throw a working computer in the bin [04:45] twm that would be [04:46] Zordrak: yes, i know kde is the same for all distos [04:46] nooper: its necessary. Computers are just too powerful now. Finding a use for the oldest boxes i have is just a waste of 150W [04:46] and whatever i could use them for i could get an active box to do without even touching its available resources [04:46] well in my case there's a size issue also, the p133 is in a rly rly small box which sits in my small attic [04:47] what about software updates? if i install 13.0 i must update manually, (from downloaded targ.gz sources)? [04:47] hy: microATX :) [04:47] i sneer at your perfectly logical and practical points [04:47] Azeotrope: slackpkg [04:47] nooper: :) [04:47] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:47] hehe [04:47] yeah maybe im too emotional about my little friend ;) [04:48] Azeotrope: slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all [04:48] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:49] i used to be the same when you could still buy pc133 dimms for less than £50 [04:49] thank you. I hope I will find all the software that i can find in Ubuntu repositories [04:49] but its just too far gone. i can replace every p-133 or similar box i *ever* had with one athlon3500+ [04:49] and the athlon box would have cost me less than £50 [04:50] Azeotrope: http://slackbuilds.org [04:50] Azeotrope: http://sbopkg.org [04:50] true true [04:50] frullet (n=hooch@203-214-23-90.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:50] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [04:50] Azeotrope: don't use ubuntu binaries on slack...that's ASKING for trouble [04:51] nyRednek: re-read what he said [04:51] Zordrak: oh, my bad [04:51] Azeotrope: you won't find slackbuilds for ALL of ubuntu repo packages [04:54] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:55] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.13.249) joined ##slackware. [04:57] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.13.249) left irc: Client Quit [04:58] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. 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[05:14] OclkdMan: evince seems to do the job [05:15] with evince i've tried yesterday. it is a pain to compile it with slackare64-current, because it is not compatible with latest poppler libraries. [05:15] OclkdMan: okular might [05:16] OclkdMan: i really don't remember if it does [05:17] ok.... [05:17] OclkdMan: i do know that okular is included in slack, in the kde/ series [05:18] yes....but i use xfce....i don't have a single package of kde, sorry. i'll try with 'pdftk' [05:19] OclkdMan: i use fvwm [05:21] ah ok. so it should work. thx for the tip. [05:22] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [05:22] also try epdfview [05:23] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:24] k [05:25] but this looks too cool :) http://www.accesspdf.com/pdftk/#vim_plugin [05:25] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-yevmeoilpxedstbf) joined ##slackware. [05:25] petslack (n=petslack@201-43-189-33.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:26] anyone know what's the slackware equivalent of 'udevinfo' command? [05:26] which: no udevinfo in (/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/lib/java/bin:/usr/lib/kde4/libexec:/usr/lib/qt/bin:/usr/share/texmf/bin:.) [05:27] probably udevadm info [05:27] howzabout "udevadm info" [05:27] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.13.249) left irc: "Leaving" [05:27] appears to need a --option after that (see man page) [05:28] udevadm look likes its absorbed udevinfo...cheers guys [05:28] moh2a (n=mohaa@188.115.65.216) joined ##slackware. [05:28] $ udevadm info --query=name --name=/dev/cdrom [05:28] hdd [05:28] neet trick [05:30] on another topic, the bash completion package found in extras...anyone use it? [05:30] what is it? [05:30] I used to use it [05:31] it actually kind of gets on my nerves sometimes [05:31] Urchlay: does it give bash more magical predictive powers then? [05:31] yeah [05:32] but e.g. "gimp file" tries to complete all image files, based on their names... and if I happen to have a file "BLAH.JPG", it didn't show up in the completion list (because it's uppercase) [05:32] easy to fix a specific case like that, but then it wouldn't match .Jpg [05:33] ah okay, hmm, predictions based on program context? sounds like a nice idea [05:33] modern versions of bash-completion might suck less, I haven't tried it in 4 or 5 years [05:33] right, you do "man foo" and it shows all the man pages beginning with "foo" [05:34] I would just like my man XXX commands to be completed for me...but im just lazy ;-) [05:34] or "ssh foo" and it shows all the /etc/hosts entries beginning with foo [05:34] oops, thats weird [05:34] (but not the ones in DNS, that I know of) [05:35] it even works if you're getting ready to compile a program and you go "./configure --enable" (it shows all the --enable-whatever options supported by that configure script) [05:39] pretty smart [05:40] yeah, sometimes it gets confused though, with non-standard stuff... or there might be some command that can e.g. take either a file or a directory, but the author of the bash-completion for that command didn't know it could take a directory, so the completions won't list dirs... [05:40] if there were only a hotkey meaning "temporarily turn off bash-completion magic", it'd be a lot more usable [05:41] (so you could revert to the standard "dumb" completion, if the fancy stuff fails you) [05:44] egregor (n=ieie@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [05:46] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.65.103) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:47] now if I could just get some software to type *for* me .. I'de be all set [05:49] you'd find out your throat would get worn out from talking so much [05:50] (speech recognition tends to require you to enunciate carefully, more strain than plain running your mouth) [05:50] and the day computers have the capability to read peoples' minds, that's the day I become a full Luddite [05:53] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.104.71) joined ##slackware. [05:54] Urchlay: at that point, i'm going full on traditionalist [05:56] which set of traditions? 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[06:08] acidchil1: i don't care for someone whose claim to fame is using fruity loops to "create" [06:09] haha yah, same with L-Wiz [06:09] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:09] his stuff is mixed in to 100s of sets now [06:09] and he's produced maybe 12 tracks? [06:09] 3 are ok? [06:09] lol [06:10] acidchil1: the closest to what these guys are that i actually like is trent reznor [06:11] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [06:13] acidchil1: do you need an example? [06:13] oh, please. [06:13] totally diffrent type of music [06:14] acidchil1: exactly [06:14] NIN is sold the fuck out too [06:14] 250$ for tickets?? WUT [06:14] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-vrtjerlzbtlyauvm) left irc: "Page closed" [06:14] not worth 20$ and i dont care about paying that as cover for a club [06:14] acidchil1: when you give your albums away... [06:15] acidchil1: i prefer a guy working a sequencer over someone scratching out a mix [06:15] uhhh... [06:16] all original NIN cuts are one moog, one seqencer [06:17] good job people have diffrent tastes in music :P [06:19] nyRednek: like dnbA/ [06:19] hospital records, liquid... [06:20] now i'm trying to find a set of slackbuilds for beast [06:27] jgeboski (n=jgeboski@97.72.86.194) left irc: "Leaving" [06:29] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) left irc: "Leaving" [06:29] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) joined ##slackware. [06:31] Nick change: sp4z -> sp4z_ [06:31] n0xus (n=m@c-67-172-233-224.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:32] Nick change: sp4z_ -> sp4z [06:32] hello [06:33] n0xus: hello... [06:33] any of you guys run x-wrt [06:34] edgard_ (n=edgard@189.60.22.76) joined ##slackware. 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I have maded a config for a site that I called v.kowalczyk.be for example. and point dns to v.kowalczyk.be to my ip./ then apache should do that automatically. but it doesnt work. I have 2 sites.. both goes to the same place on the server [06:40] what am I missing? [06:40] have you defined any virtual sites :P [06:40] did you setup dns on your server? [06:41] i believe there's mismatch in httpd.conf [06:41] agris: yes I have. and di Include /etc/httpd/sites_enabled and put them there.. [06:41] new one too? [06:41] edgard_ (n=edgard@189.60.22.76) left irc: [06:42] in httpd.conf I did Include /etc/httpd/sites_enabled and put the config files in there [06:42] candinho (n=candinho@201-68-81-246.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:43] probably something I have forgotten [06:43] petslack (n=petslack@201-43-189-33.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [06:43] for sure [06:43] but what? I got it to work in other distributions.. but not on slack:( [06:44] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [06:44] greetings [06:44] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:44] greeting [06:44] where on earth is wicd? is it part of kde? or some pkg? or in some mirror?...:( [06:45] kowalczyk: hiya [06:45] pkg [06:45] extra [06:45] agris: thanks you... [06:45] wicd is in slackware/extra [06:45] agris: any idea? it loads both configs... but it dont point the directory I defined in the config file [06:46] kowalczyk: I'm afraid i have no idea :) only to check conf files harder [06:46] hmmm... [06:47] www services is not mu speciality :P [06:47] ok :d hehe [06:47] alisonken1noc: i found it ;) thanks guys [06:48] np [06:48] wicd has a daemon (your user has to be part of netdev group I believe), a gui client and a cli client (wicd-cli for the cli version) [06:49] Man-erg (n=meck@host-78-13-30-75.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) left irc: "leaving" [06:49] The-Croupier: personally i think there should be series called "workstation" and "laptop" [06:49] you can always uncheck unneeded packages, can't you [06:50] agris: yes, but most of us do full installs of entire package series [06:50] if you feel pro yourself, of course :D [06:50] joke [06:50] macavity: what do you mean? [06:50] i.e. pcmcia, The-Croupier [06:51] cdrecord is a contender too [06:52] and naturally wicd is someting that sysadms might not want on the companys workstations, but ceartainly on the laptops [06:52] macavity: i do ok with wpa_supplicant on my lap [06:52] macavity: it is on my personal laptop ;) [06:53] i move about a lot, so i dont bother with wpa_supplicant any more [06:53] agris: my wpa_supplicant doesnt recognise the wireless...let alont do something with it ;) [06:53] oh :) [06:53] agris: some errors with it in the past...so i just removepkged it ;) [06:53] The-Croupier: the reason it is in extra is probably so someone following the "intstall everything" credo wont get a nasty surprise [06:54] understood ;) [06:54] nasty?!!! what do you mean...that is a little worrying... [06:54] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [06:54] noone likes "nasty" surprises [06:54] Action: The-Croupier thinks [06:54] The-Croupier: if you dump wicd on a server, and some user has shell account, they can just disconnect it [06:55] or worse, arange a man in the middle attack [06:55] then again, why would a server have a wifi connection? [06:55] nyRednek: because it is the local gateway? [06:55] nyRednek: ;) you never know...;) [06:56] doesn't wicd lets configure ethX too? :) [06:56] that too [06:56] n0xus (n=m@c-67-172-233-224.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [06:56] agris: it does, but when you ave a static eth config, why worry with wicd? [06:57] because widc will happily override it? [06:57] macavity: in other words, why worry with installing wicd? [06:57] that is the same question if sudo makes su less secure or smthng like that :) [06:57] no - wicd uses it's own config, not /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [06:57] aem, worng words, but anyway [06:57] alisonken1noc: but even so, one can easily chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd [06:58] wicd looks like it has changed alot since the last time i checked.;) [06:58] besides, my laptop may have static at one location, dhcp at another location, and a tunnel anywhere else [06:58] true [06:58] alisonken1noc: so? i am on the wired right now, and i can just click "disconnect" for the eth0 (which is handled by rc.inet1) [06:58] however, that's just the wicd daemon, not th eclient [06:58] macavity: you miss the point hten [06:58] then [06:59] my setup is not like your setup [06:59] wicd works fine for me [06:59] i never said it didnt work fine [06:59] alisonken1noc: if the daemon isn't running, afaik, the client can't start it(to connect to networks) [06:59] looks like it recognised my wireless as well ;) so i am with alisonken1noc in this one [06:59] i said that it should not accidently end up on a pure server [06:59] The-Croupier: well, i couldn't properly config 'eduroam' wifi with wicd because of cert or smthng, and it still more ease to config wpa_supp :P [06:59] and that is why it is in extra/ [07:00] personally i think wicd is the nicest thing since sliced bread [07:00] however - I agree with you on that one [07:00] that was my only argument :P [07:00] i love it when we all agree to dissagree [07:00] ;) [07:00] i have no issue with wicd being in extra/ [07:00] in this case it looked more like we dissagreed to agtree untill we found out that were actually agreeing to agree [07:00] i dont care where it is...as long as it is somewhere ;) [07:01] i use wicd myself [07:01] macavity: you got it ;) [07:01] and no, i wouldn't give anyone a regular user account who doesn't live here with me [07:01] as noted, there should be a 'slackware/notebook' category for things like wicd :) [07:01] nyRednek: why would a logical person want to live with you :p [07:01] Action: The-Croupier hides [07:02] nyRednek: i honnestly think that the slackware packges series need a reordering.. they have been largely left untouched back since none owned a laptop, and very very few used slackware as a workstation [07:02] latemus (n=m@c-67-172-233-224.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:02] cause they(or another who took their account) could easily ssh in then use wicd-curses to disconnect me [07:02] Action: nyRednek stabs The-Croupier [07:03] The-Croupier: cause 1. the woman is married to me or 2. the rest are my spawn [07:03] sssh in laptop? that's the first thing to disable... [07:03] nyRednek, if they are sshing in and using wicd-curses to disconnect you, they have other issues, like being self-abusive [07:03] macavity: maybe maybe not [07:03] latemus (n=m@c-67-172-233-224.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [07:03] nyRednek: yikes... you called fork() with your wife?!? [07:03] agris: agreed... [07:03] macavity: 5 times now [07:03] O_O [07:04] so soon New York will be swamped by rednecks?!? [07:04] where can i get tickets to the final showdown? :P [07:04] the Rednek project now has 4 child() processes, with one child() in the middle of being spawned [07:04] uhm, posix does not define child() [07:05] s/spawned/spanked [07:05] there is clone() though? [07:05] er, nevermind [07:05] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-yevmeoilpxedstbf) left ##slackware. [07:05] parent() and child() are part of some standard [07:06] the kernel implements parent() implicitly :P [07:07] either way, it's a logical progression, whether defined by posix or not [07:07] if there's parent(), child() should be also, at least for binary trees :) [07:07] nyRednek: lulz.. posix was never about logical progression, was it? :P [07:07] i think it was more about convenient.. and what most systems seem to be doing currently [07:08] candinho (n=candinho@201-68-81-246.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [07:09] if I remove the other vhost file then the second one work. but if I put it back only the first works. hmm [07:10] does one have to tell httpd to accept some number of hosts? [07:10] eg, is it single host minded in the default configuration? [07:11] Action: macavity has obviously never set up a httpd before [07:11] hmm.. it worked on other distributions. but not here. hmm.. *thinking* [07:12] you can be relatively sure that the slackware default configuration matches that of the apache expectations [07:12] so you can probably just go by the default docs [07:13] but that doesnt work... I have two hosts file.. one pointing to directory a the other to directory b.. but now only a works. if I remove vhost file for domain a, domain b works. but not if I have both. hmm [07:13] kowalczyk: you can pastbin your conf files, maybe we could look and find problem :P [07:13] candinho (n=candinho@201-68-81-246.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:13] httpd.conf or conf for the sites? [07:13] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:13] probably part of httpd.conf where vhost confs is called, and vhost confs [07:14] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [07:14] candinho (n=candinho@201-68-81-246.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [07:14] I only have one line in httpd.conf regarding that. Include /etc/httpd/sites_enabled it reads the files.. but I dont know [07:15] site A: http://slackware.pastebin.com/m2069c42b [07:15] MooKimchi (n=kimchi@211.180.33.122) left irc: "Leaving" [07:15] site B: http://slackware.pastebin.com/m4aaa4048 [07:15] ok, httpd.conf calls one file (or dir?)) for sites_enabled? you must know, that apache used in ubuntu(debian) and slack is not kind of the same... i suppose [07:16] it calls one dir including the files in it [07:16] if I have one file in it works. but not 2 [07:16] what happens if you include both files directly from the main conf? [07:17] isn't it kind of debi(li)an patch to do that. ok, whatever. try to concatenate all sites_enabled into onf conf file ;p [07:17] s/onf/one [07:17] or that [07:17] I know agris . I think that was easier. if I put all in extra/http-vhosts.conf its hardet to get apache to dns stuff? isnt it? [07:18] macavity: I can try [07:18] i strongly doubt usual slack's apache calls in all conf files from dir. but, what could i know... just guessing [07:18] Linux-IRC (n=Linux-IR@unaffiliated/easy) joined ##slackware. [07:18] Is anyone here ? [07:18] no [07:19] Blikjeham (n=Blikjeha@reson.soleus.nu) joined ##slackware. [07:19] wait. you are! [07:19] what ? [07:19] macavity: nah [07:19] Linux-IRC: we're all asleep, using a hal2000-style script to interact with you [07:19] Who is the ops here ? [07:19] Don't know much about that script [07:19] sorry, [07:20] g [07:20] HAL-2000 [07:21] nyRednek: what was that film name exactly? suddenly forgot [07:21] agris: ok. that worked. I put both in one file.. that worked [07:21] xman [07:21] oddyseey [07:21] remeberd :) [07:22] agris: 2001: a space oddesy(or something like that) [07:22] Who is the ops here ? Is he rworkman ? [07:23] kowalczyk: probalby there is way to call whole dirs' files, but i don't know that way. anyway, glad you found the way [07:23] Linux-IRC: why do you need to talk to an op? wtf is your issue? [07:23] agris: Are you talking about this guys , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Odyssey_%28TV_miniseries%29 [07:23] agris: ok :) thanks for the help :) i'll appreciate it:) [07:23] nyRednek: Are you ops ? [07:23] nyRednek: Do you know the meaning of ops ? [07:23] Linux-IRC: just answer the question [07:24] nyRednek: Answer my question [07:24] i asked first, so answer first [07:24] I want to know the ops here. [07:24] Linux-IRC: why? [07:24] I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave [07:25] nyRednek: Are you ops [07:25] ? [07:25] rworkman: Are you here ? [07:25] let's just say several people here have the ops ear [07:25] Linux-IRC: you seem to not understand, i asked a question first, you answer, then i answer your question...it's called initial manners [07:26] This says only 1 ops, [07:26] 01:18 -!- Irssi: ##slackware: Total of 293 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 292 normal] [07:26] :D [07:27] One question, why do you use slackware ? [07:27] Is there speciality about slackware ? [07:27] If there is what is that ? [07:27] Linux-IRC: that's simple...my logic engine was installed on slackware, i know no other [07:27] ican do everything the way i want. is it good reason? [07:28] nyRednek: What kind of login engine ? [07:28] Linux-IRC: that just means there's only 1 person that has set their nic to op - there is more than one op in the channel [07:28] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:28] the only question would be if they're listening [07:29] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:29] HAIL SLACKWAIR [07:29] they always are ;) [07:29] or something [07:29] acidchil1: So you are not child now , [07:29] It's chil1 , [07:29] Linux-IRC: login engine? bundled with slackware are two graphical login managers, xdm and kdm...is that the answer to your question? [07:29] has anyone tried the nice google programming language in slackware yet? [07:30] I use kdm [07:30] not yet, but one of the admins here is looking at google go [07:30] Linux-IRC: please read about it somewhere...;) [07:30] me use shell [07:30] Linux-IRC: many do, my programmer installed gdm [07:30] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) joined ##slackware. [07:31] What's the special about slackware ? [07:31] Can everything be done on slackware ? [07:31] Linux-IRC: the speciality of slackware are these: [07:31] Action: sahk0 sets mode +m [07:31] Linux-IRC: historically, slackware is the oldest surviving distribution of linux [07:31] a) we use it without asking slackware questions because all we need is in /topic and various sites [07:32] b) we dont ask questions that we already know/can find [07:32] I know it's oldest,that's nothing [07:32] c) it is slackware [07:32] d) only smart people use it ;) [07:32] yup, it can make you coffee and do blowjobs if you connect a robot head to usb port [07:32] i think i covered you fine..;) [07:32] john_dee: thats old news :p [07:32] Linux-IRC: and the support is the most excellent support I have been getting :) [07:33] robertf (n=frederic@ip-80-236-227-183.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [07:33] Hello [07:33] really like the support :) [07:33] hehe [07:33] I installed slackware & Debian etch in dualboot [07:33] i can boot DEbian or not slackware, why? [07:33] kowalczyk: Support from #slackware ? [07:33] support here ##slackware [07:33] Linux-IRC: in some opinions, the unrivalled longevity of slackware is a testament to the distribution's usefulness [07:33] "error 2: bad file or directory type" [07:34] kowalczyk: It's not for support [07:34] Linux-IRC: I have got support from here and I like it:) and the forums is great. and I love slackbuilds <3 [07:34] Linux-IRC: do you have an actual problem? are you using slackware? [07:34] neonflux (n=neonflux@75.140.153.197) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:34] Linux-IRC is a Highly Successful Troll! [07:34] actually, it's ##slackware [07:34] not #slackware [07:34] alisonken1noc: :) [07:35] robertf, you really should ask about it in debian forum,'couse that's debian which messed things up. [07:35] robertf, do you boot with slackware's lilo or debian's grub? [07:35] that's grub error [07:36] slava_dp> debian's grub [07:36] kk, > #debian [07:36] yeah [07:36] robertf: or sudo apt-get install lilo [07:36] :D [07:36] What's the way to update all packages of slackware ? [07:36] robertf: check on google and see what you can find..;) [07:36] Linux-IRC, slackpkg [07:36] slackpkg [07:37] robertf, you can reinstall lilo and use it to boot debian too instead of grub. [07:37] Linux-IRC: are you using slackware? [07:37] Post the complete command [07:37] Linux-IRC: that is the complete command [07:37] Linux-IRC, read the manpage please. [07:37] Action: Linux-IRC chee <------------- troll [07:37] slava_dp> i'm installing lilo [07:37] command > # man slackpg [07:37] :D [07:37] agris++ [07:37] /ignore Linux-IRC [07:38] damn those spaces... [07:38] that's the correct command, The-Croupier [07:38] slackpkg--an complement to slackware pkgtools that allows for network installation and upgrade of packages distributed with slackware linux [07:38] slava_dp> i must install Debian's lilo? [07:38] nyRednek, do not feed him :) [07:38] g, got to get one more beer. today have to get to Opera. bbl [07:39] slava_dp: let's do lunch [07:39] yum update , updates all packages of fedora ,is there any equivalent command for slackware [07:39] technically, yum update simply updates repository information...does no upgrades [07:39] robertf, i suggest you insert your slackware media, boot from the hdd using the method suggested on the screen, change /etc/lilo.conf to add debian and run lilo. [07:39] slackpkg update [07:39] nyRednek: It updates all packages, [07:39] slackpkg update, slackpkg upgrade-all [07:39] latemus (n=m@c-67-172-233-224.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:40] however, that just syncs your machine with the repo list [07:40] slackpkg install-new [07:40] alisonken1noc: Fine, [07:40] i just found a washing-line peg in my trousers [07:40] slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all && slackpkg install-new [07:40] how can you scan for pcmcia cards [07:40] I'm a murderer, I killed my lilo! ='( [07:41] slava_dp: i don't remeber 100% but i had problems installing lilo over grub. there was kind of mbr and superblock probl or something. a lot years ago [07:41] within fedora and related distributions, two commands are needed to perform an upgrade: yum update && yum upgrade, not unlike debian's APTitude system which requires one to run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade [07:41] What's the way to install grub on slackware ? [07:41] It's installed lilo by default [07:42] use grub from slackware/extra [07:42] as if the the shortness of an upgrade command marked it's effectiveness. [07:42] slackpkg install grub would be my guess [07:42] grub is not the supported bootloader for slackware, and it is rumored that google knows the answer [07:42] Linux-IRC, lilo is superior to grub. [07:42] should i change xorg configuration or can i change keyboard layout in kde? [07:42] cr3rzemjest: what version of slack? [07:42] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [07:42] cr3rzemjest: you can, in KDE [07:43] slava_dp: I don't think so , most linux distribution use grub [07:43] 13 [07:43] cr3rzemjest, if you run kde4, use the kde settings [07:43] slackware 12 [07:43] no slackware 13 [07:43] Linux-IRC, most linux distributions resolve dependencies too. so what? [07:43] kde 4 [07:43] cr3rzemjest: changing it in xorg doesn't do much without changing things in your hal files [07:43] Linux-IRC: windows is run by a majority of desktops - does that make it better? [07:43] nyRednek: so i'll do it in kde then :P [07:43] Nick change: Guest59504 -> sidmario [07:44] cr3rzemjest: yes [07:44] alisonken1noc: Why not ? give the reason [07:44] Linux-IRC, use whatever you wish. [07:44] the only thing windows has over linux is bsod [07:44] alisonken1noc, there's a screensaver for that [07:44] ^^ [07:44] chee, true :) [07:45] other than that, it's security sucks and it's not good for normal use because of the extra hardware requirements and cash you have to spend on 3rd party crap before you can even plug in a network cable [07:46] and no - grandma and grandpa can't use it on a daily basis since the average grandparents coudn't learn the administration requirements to keep it working [07:46] alisonken1noc: if one wants something that hogs resources like windows without using windows, i offer plan9, from bell labs [07:46] slava_dp: I don't use windows, but if i have to use msoffice or photoshop [07:46] how about plan 9 from outer space? [07:47] give the guy a rest... [07:47] alisonken1noc: completely unrelated projects, similar in the fact that neither do anything particularly useful [07:47] he asked [07:47] nyRednek: [07:47] lilo is simple and quick - grub will load MulticsOS on your toaster [07:48] and i have seen them both fail under various conditions where the other would work [07:48] and I've been going since 6pm yesterday [07:48] it like vi and emacs :P [07:49] why settle for an editor when you can have an extra os layer? [07:49] personally i would *so* like to see linux support multiboot.. but lilo does not support that [yet] [07:50] macavity: doesn't support multiboot? wtf do you mean it doesn't support multiboot? [07:50] nyRednek: multiboot is a GNU standard for loading an OS core modularly [07:50] macavity: ah... [07:51] nyRednek: as in, no initrd, just ask the boot loader to load the individual drivers, and instruct the kernel where in memory it dumped them [07:51] FreeBSD uses this too [07:51] macavity: kinda like the hurd core [07:51] slava_dp: What do you mean by distributions resolve dependencies ? If i do yum install pidgin , it installs dependencies ,are you talking about that ? [07:51] nyRednek: naturally you *need* that for the hurd [07:52] macavity: last i heard, the hurd core was about to be replaced by a newer mach core [07:52] nyRednek: since the core consists of the modified mach microkernel and about 15 userspace servers [07:52] nyRednek: negatory, old hurd runs on mach, new hurd runs on L4 [07:53] serek (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [07:53] nyRednek: if you grep the source of old hurd you will actually see a patch of mine [07:54] Action: chee wants the hurd [07:54] bye [07:54] Linux-IRC (n=Linux-IR@unaffiliated/easy) left ##slackware. [07:54] macavity: didn't say i heard correctly [07:54] finally? [07:54] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [07:54] macavity, the l4 port is dumped. [07:55] macavity: isn't the mach microkernel inherently flawed due to the overhead of the kernel? [07:55] yes [07:55] slava_dp: yes, i heard talk about switching to a modified version of Eros or something similar [07:55] hi all [07:56] nyRednek: the main problem is that PowerPC hardware can work very fast with this OS model.. x86 can simply not [07:57] macavity, i wonder if there ever will be a production hurd.... [07:57] nyRednek: its the stack store/restore that costs.. so causing 20 context switces instead of 1 for a single syscall is just out of the option [07:57] macavity: yet most of the world is x86 based, even many mainframes and higher performance parallel clusters [07:57] slava_dp: hurd has always been, and will always be, the OS of the futur :-/ [07:57] nyRednek: nope [07:57] macavity, apparently so [07:58] Camarade_Tux: well, the ibm mainframes ARE ppc based, but their supercomputers are x86 [07:58] Camarade_Tux: go figure [07:58] nyRednek: true, there are a lot of x86 based big iron out there.. but when you need *massive* throughput, Power6 and Niagra kills x86 like the little ants they are [07:58] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:00] x86 is good when you need to do a lot of grinding on a little data.. Power/SPARC has a much faster dataflow, so they work equally well on ultra heavy data amounts that only need to be, say, sorted [08:00] macavity: 8 of 10 fastest computers in the world are x86 [08:00] that sort of thing tends to kill x86 because it renders the caches useless [08:00] nyRednek: define "fast" :P [08:01] nyRednek: if it is in raw calculation power, right. If it is based on I/O throughput, negatory [08:01] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-yevmeoilpxedstbf) joined ##slackware. [08:01] x86 is just overgrown pocket calculators :P [08:01] macavity: http://www.top500.org/system/9707 [08:01] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [08:02] i consider that fast [08:02] lol, [08:02] Processor PowerXCell 8i 3200 MHz (12.8 GFlops) [08:02] just curious, how does slackware control minor version revision? eg. does 13.1 come out 6 months after 13? [08:02] ^^ [08:02] Action: chee is away to sell an xbox360 [08:02] it takes an Opteron 1.8GHz just to keep it fed with data :P [08:03] http://www.top500.org/stats/list/33/procfam [08:03] nyRednek: no x86 there [08:03] i think 13.1 comes out when it's ready [08:03] some x86_64, lots of EM64T [08:03] s/x86_64/x86_64 amd/ [08:03] chee: you sound like my mom when ask when's dinner! [08:04] are you sure? I thought Pat would do 13.1 before it's ready [08:04] nyRednek: so, the fastes supercomputer in the world is Cell based? :P [08:04] Camarade_Tux: i consider x86_64, ia64, and em64t as extensions on x86 [08:04] BUT, if you see the top10, you see much less x86* than in the top500 [08:05] rogersman, :D [08:05] x86 only manages its performance by its low-cost and massive number of cpu (which is possible thanks to the lower cost of them) [08:05] rogersman, slackware is released on a dinnertime schedule [08:05] uva (i=bno@114-45-232-75.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [08:06] i quite happily use slackware current, just wondering if there was a formal system for revisioning... [08:06] add 1 when patrick decides to release [08:06] the latest update to kde 4.3.3 was quite significant IMHO [08:07] it fixed some arkanodi issues here [08:07] now it doesnt bitch at me everytime i log in [08:07] smallgoat__ (n=andy@host86-152-224-60.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Client Quit [08:07] macavity: did you give your pc a woman's name? [08:07] Action: The-Croupier hides [08:07] I'm trying to convince someone about ubuntu's unsecurity, anyone know of a privilege escalation exploit for ubuntu, with kernel 2.6.24-24 (released in august)? [08:08] i hate that f***ing akonadi crap, so glad to be rid of that annoying message! [08:08] The-Croupier: my laptop is called rogue :P [08:08] Camarade_Tux: ubuntu is by itself an unsecurity ;) [08:08] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.190.13) joined ##slackware. [08:08] hi there! [08:08] The-Croupier: yeah, I'm looking for a demo ;-) [08:08] I'd guess ubuntu is extremely up to date on security issues [08:08] Camarade_Tux: on sec [08:08] rogersman: the technology is pretty cool though.. we just dont want to hear about it [08:09] thrice`: is that irony? or are you serious?? [08:09] macavity: +1 :-D [08:09] rogersman: in KDE 4.4 most of the PIM stuff will be ported to arkanodi [08:09] thrice`: this is a 8.x release, is it even going to be kept up-to-date? [08:09] thrice`: well, only if there is not activated those 3rd party and etc repositories :) [08:09] The-Croupier, what do you mean? obviously all of the bigger distros are extremely sensitive to security [08:09] i cant wait to see this whole "semantic desktop" fly [08:09] which is usual for desktops to get performance [08:09] indeed - that's unavoidable on any distro [08:10] pretty cool, on my weird laptop, windows take at *least* an hour post install to be up and running, slackware works with *every* hardware component out the box...cant ask for much more than that :-D [08:10] rogersman: what laptop is that? [08:10] rogersman: lucky you [08:10] thrice`: but ubuntu drops security updates pretty quickly if you don't upgrade to the "latest" [08:10] lucky me [08:11] yes :) [08:11] Camarade_Tux, oh? your information must be different than mine [08:11] macavity: load of crap toshiba [08:11] everything works out of the box on mine too [08:11] pretty much both of my laptops [08:11] thrice`: actually, DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS" <- LTS [08:11] i'm still not getting dvb-t suport for qt1010 chip :) it's more my lazyness, but whatever :0 [08:11] LTS is supported for 5 years, isn't it? [08:11] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:11] 3 i think [08:12] oh, 3 on desktop, 5 on servers [08:12] thrice`: yeah, but usually ubuntus are EOL'ed after less than two years [08:12] as mentioned, LTS is 3 :) [08:12] like after 18 months [08:12] maybe your math is bad, but 3*12 = 36 [08:12] in my history, i couldn't get support for ubuntu 6.x anymore.. had to compile all myself :) [08:12] thrice`: yeah, and that's why I pasted the string with LTS ;-) [08:13] actually had to rip the windows CD to iso, integrate SATA drivers with nlite, reburn to disc...wot of a load of arse.....whether ubuntu is watertight or not, anything that gets people of the dulling opiate of windows is fine by me :-D [08:13] thrice`: "usually" [08:13] that was last summer [08:13] I personally don't understand WHY people don't like updating on desktops, but *meh* :> [08:13] macavity: in kde 4.4 only kaddressbook and maybe smaller apps like kjots will use akonadi. kmail/korganizer won't be using akonadi until 4.5 [08:14] pprkut: thanks [08:14] too bad though :P [08:14] indeed [08:14] thrice`: just because ubuntu updates seem to be pretty unreliable and that a major update is out every 6 months [08:15] and that dependency list for every ubuntu pkg.. just kills me off everytime i meet ubuntu/debian [08:16] pardon my ignorance, but wtf is akonadi? [08:16] well, getting back to the actual point, I still don't think ubuntu leaves supported releases unpatched [08:16] I'll wait for you to dig something up, though :) [08:16] nyRednek: PIM server [08:16] rogersman: in other words, more memory overhead for a now-bloated de? [08:17] nyRednek, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akonadi [08:17] thrice`: ;-) [08:17] ping! [08:17] well, kde4 runs faster than kde3...at least for me [08:17] pong [08:17] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [08:18] at least newest kde4.. kde 4.0-4.2 was not good [08:18] rogersman: i have 1gb of memory, and the new kde on slack drags [08:18] nyRednek: u mean 4.3.3. or just 4 in general? [08:18] thrice`: can I play on the fact that the computer hasn't been updated to the latest kernel available? :D [08:18] rogersman: 4 in general [08:18] rogersman: i'm not on -current, but 13.0 [08:19] while I personally dislike running ubuntu myself, I think it'd be slanderous to call their stuff unpatched [08:19] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:19] nyRednek: well, yesterday i switched lap with 2gb to -current kde.. it worked well [08:19] nyRednek: hmm, sounds like somethings up with that mate...ran like a dream on an old crappy vaio i have...tho i was using current [08:19] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [08:19] Action: rogersman has a lot of crappy laptops :-( [08:19] also, not that fast as macosx or win7 [08:20] Action: nyRednek needs more crappy laptops...has a compaq cx50 with a dead screen/busted clamshell [08:20] command line still beats the * out of kde :D [08:21] hey guys. you can see me. webcam.ucc.asn.au [08:21] agris: i dont think you can compare the two [08:21] agris: using fvwm atm...beats most other wm/de/whichever you play with, other than command line [08:21] rogersman: why? [08:21] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [08:21] d [08:21] nyRednek: i prefer fluxbox over fvwm [08:21] if used [08:21] gnubien (n=e@97.100.244.231) joined ##slackware. [08:22] well try using command line to browse the web, or kde to change file permission, each have their distinct pros and cons....use together to obtain ultimate glory! [08:23] actually, slack+fluxbox was the success for me when i decided to change to linux. that combination was reliable for weeks without restart on 20mb ram laptop [08:23] agris: i never really got that deep into fluxbox [08:23] oh, that is just great [08:23] agris: used fvwm for over a decade, though [08:23] agris: sure, i just like eye candy :-D [08:24] spook: which one are you? short or long hair? [08:24] nyRednek: long. [08:25] kozandr (n=kozandr@92.243.174.247) left irc: Operation timed out [08:25] spook: ok, i'd scare you guys if you saw me on webcam [08:28] spook: http://imagebin.org/71529 example of typical photo i take [08:29] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.39.139) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:30] OMG [08:30] I mean, looks good [08:30] thrice`: what? it's just a .357 [08:30] gun or hat? [08:30] :) [08:31] btw, beard rules. i own one too [08:31] no - doesn't look like a .357 [08:31] agris: my hair and beard are a little longer now [08:31] alisonken1noc: it is [08:31] alisonken1noc: an OLD one [08:31] ok [08:31] maybe because I have semi-transparency on [08:32] shyko (n=chatzill@187.39.217.37) joined ##slackware. [08:32] alisonken1noc: probably [08:32] alisonken1noc: it's a rohm model 57 [08:32] hello slacker! [08:32] alisonken1noc: that's before i went to israel [08:32] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:32] ah [08:33] g'morning all [08:33] that rohm is still in arkansas [08:34] and this was my mobile "studio" for the truck http://imagebin.org/71530 [08:34] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) left irc: "Leaving" [08:41] Argotic_ (n=ubuntu@193.239.140.184) joined ##slackware. [08:41] Hi have a very big problem. I tried a fresh reinstall of Slackware 13 and now when my PC is at "Verfying DMI pool data..." I get this: " L 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 9999 99 99 9999 99 99 99 [08:42] hahaha, I managed to get that one by killing my lilo a few hours ago :) [08:42] :) [08:43] Damn it.. i've read somewhere that i have to format all my hdd [08:43] you killed the mbr? [08:43] boot into root=/dev/yourdiskdeviceX from install cd/usb and check lilofor problems [08:43] nah, just reinstall lilo ! [08:44] did you install lilo properly? [08:44] eek, epic lag [08:44] have lilo re-write the mbr. boot your install media and from there drop to root, mount your drive and run lilo in chroot [08:44] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [08:45] so, as you see, Argotic_, it is not a big problem at all D: [08:45] The problem was this. I had ubuntu 9.10 upgraded from 9.04. I installed slackware 13 64bit. I worked nice, but it was really hard and i am kinda inexperienced. I reinstalled Ubuntu 9.10 twice, same error. I broke de cd and reinstalled Slackware [08:45] still same damn error [08:46] Argotic_: you irc from a different computer? [08:46] Yes [08:46] (well, I guess so... ;p ) [08:46] Camarade_Tux: from ubuntu install cd maybe :P [08:46] yep [08:46] live version [08:46] Argotic_, well, reinstalling should not help. The reason is that the bootloader isn't set up properly, so it's not even trying to launch either ubuntu nor grub [08:47] ok. so it's repairable [08:47] so, re-installing stuff beyond the bootloader 100 times still won't give you acess :) [08:47] i guess, if there is any data on disk, just fdisk it to zero all [08:47] agris: huh [08:47] i mean, low format [08:48] so i will loose all my data? [08:48] Argotic_: just boot on the slackware installer, mancha gave you the general instruictions at 44 [08:48] Argotic_: no! [08:48] agris: why?! [08:48] just for sure [08:48] NO! [08:48] Ok. thanks for mancha [08:48] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435766.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:49] I still have some other issues. As i said earlier, I want to permanently move to Slackware but I really miss gnome. Is the gnome slackbuild stable? or i'll get errors? [08:49] Camarade_Tux: show us the way. acutallu, haven't meet this problem for long, so it would be nice to see proper way [08:50] _bruno (n=bruno@201-42-113-140.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [08:50] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:50] agris: sure, as I said, I have the same problem *currently* but I don't have anything to boot on (I'm about to create an usb boot disk), just need some time [08:51] Argotic_, gsb is ok, but not supported officially. people use it. [08:51] actually, I may have a slack dvd at home... [08:52] Camarade_Tux: lilo still had problems with fs choosed, didn't it? jfs probably, argh... [08:52] I need to achieve the following on Slackware: swap and home encrypted, transmission-daemon that starts before login screen (i have other people that use the machine) and why not, some Ubuntu-like look&fell (compiz fusion, effects, matrix screensaver) :) [08:53] why do you want to switch to slackware? [08:53] ubnut-like... [08:53] alright [08:53] huh? no [08:53] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware64-13.0/README_CRYPT.TXT is for 1 [08:53] Because Ubuntu ate my nerves [08:53] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/transmission/ is for 2 [08:53] every upgrade is a pita [08:54] people are quite happy with gnome slackbuild (afaik) [08:54] you don't think i should switch to slackware? [08:55] Argotic_, of course you should. [08:55] we're curious :) [08:55] Argotic, i think you should if the reasons are correct [08:57] latemus (n=m@c-67-172-233-224.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:57] thrice`, I can do the encrypting stuff before installing it? do i have all the tools on the dvd? [08:57] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@80-123-59-208.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:57] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [08:57] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62.47.137.202) joined ##slackware. [08:58] that encryption page uses dm + luks, both vanilla tools. nothing extra needed [08:58] thanks [08:58] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [08:58] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:59] just like it is written in link you've been given :D [08:59] also your requirement is less complicated than the "system encryption" outlined in part of that doc. all you want is /home and swap which is a lot easier (no need for initrd for example) [09:00] it's similar to what i did for ubuntu. but i had to install it, do the steps and then move my /home back [09:00] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-206-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:01] what about slackware's kernels? i see that the last is kinda outdated [09:02] 2.6.29.6 isn't very old and it's up-to-date w.r.t. security releases afaik [09:02] shyko (n=chatzill@187.39.217.37) left irc: "see ya" [09:03] regarding GNOME, do you think I should use it? or I should start using KDE, as a evolution in my linux skills? [09:06] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-67-191-58-46.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:06] khm, [09:07] Argotic_: try and see [09:07] kde's not harder [09:07] i run gnome, but i have been a gnome user for 10+ years. if i was just starting out i would try them all and see what i liked [09:07] one clikc here, one clikc there... [09:08] edgard_ (n=edgard@189.60.22.76) joined ##slackware. [09:08] here a click, there a click.... [09:08] Argotic_, some, including me, totally despise gnome. i use kde or xfce. so try. [09:10] obviously the uncivilized amongst us :-) [09:11] sidmario (n=sidmario@201-43-55-15.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [09:11] i was thinking to install kde, xfce and gnome. [09:11] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:12] and how it is to evultionate your *linux* skills? [09:12] haldir, yah, kde for barbarians [09:12] just curoius [09:12] Argotic_: you are aware, however, that gnome is 3rd party on slack [09:13] i feel like being stuck in the matrix.. at the point of choosing the blue/red pill [09:13] Just go for KDE then, it adds to your life experience [09:13] KDE's desktop effects are as good as using compiz [09:13] Argotic_: but that matrix screensaver is included in xscreensaver [09:13] understanding difference betweeen gedit un kate --> is it total performance knowledge on where it is to write 120 symbols per min faster? [09:14] huh? [09:14] Heh [09:14] I did not get that either [09:14] are they putting something in other than vi now? :-) [09:14] well, there was that linux skilll evaluation switching from gnome to kde [09:15] kwrite > kate :) [09:15] joe [09:15] What about screenlets? on gnome I used avant, digitalclock and system info ( a panel that looks really cool and shows all kind of useful info) [09:15] vim > * [09:15] emacs > vim [09:15] slava_dp++ :) [09:15] nyRednek: only if you use signed ints to compare them -_- [09:15] Action: slava_dp pats Camarade_Tux :) [09:16] someone say ed [09:16] Argotic_: it is called conky [09:16] of course, you have to config it in text mode first :) [09:16] Argotic_, kde4 has plasmoids. [09:16] i saw some on kde-looks [09:17] or adesklets too I think [09:17] well, lots of choice [09:17] so this transition will cost me tears, blood and sweat. cool [09:17] edgard_ (n=edgard@189.60.22.76) left irc: [09:17] no, joy and fun :) [09:18] Argotic_: embrace the pain [09:18] i do [09:18] all it requires is patience and willingness to roll up your sleeves. most people that fail are way too uptight [09:18] no pain, no gain [09:19] s/roll up your sleeves/beat the slaves [09:21] karamba is equal to screenlet? [09:21] Argotic_, just use plasmoids :) [09:22] Argotic_: userbase.kde.org [09:22] Argotic_, there are also google-gadgets on SBo, but really, plasma rocks. [09:22] ok [09:22] thanks [09:23] so, going back to the MBR problem. i already have slackware installed but i can't boot in. how do i fix the mbr? [09:24] why when i download an image with wget the modified date is set to 2009-11-12 00:00 _ftse.png and `date` tells me Fri Nov 13 14:22:32 GMT 2009? [09:24] boot from install media by carefully reading what is written at 1st welcome screen [09:25] timestamp preservation [09:26] LinuxSir (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/sanzilla) joined ##slackware. [09:26] Nick change: LinuxSir -> Intel[R]VT-x [09:26] User mode for Intel[R]VT-x is now +E [09:27] mancha, is that a wget feature? [09:27] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-206-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:27] mancha, how do i run lilo in chroot? [09:28] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-206-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:29] kernel trace calls are not supported in the chroot environment , lilo needs direct access to block devices so you can't [09:29] or something i can deactivate with wget? [09:29] it just provides the high level application libraries [09:29] it will never provide the kernel level functionalities [09:30] Argotic_: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/09/29/re-installing-lilo-from-a-slackware-boot-cd/ [09:30] Argotic_: chroot -r /root_directory [09:30] (change root_directory to your mounted drive) [09:30] either chroot in or run lilo -r [09:31] sorry - what mancha said :) [09:31] Intel[R]VT-x: lilo works on chroot. We use this to do root LVM installs [09:31] novadays almost everyone is so bling bling by visual extras that cannot see simple text anymore? [09:32] thank you [09:32] Intel[R]VT-x: exactly what does that have to do with what is being discussed here? [09:32] brb [09:32] Argotic_ (n=ubuntu@193.239.140.184) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [09:32] Intel[R]VT-x: you need to do a mount -o bind /proc /chrooted/proc , mount -o bind /sys /chrooted/sys and mount -o bind /dev /chrooted/dev [09:33] piterPunk: that means , what it does is create a virtual setup environment and it's libraries and /proc directory [09:33] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-yevmeoilpxedstbf) left ##slackware. [09:33] Action: nyRednek pings a brick off Intel[R]VT-x's head [09:34] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [09:35] Hey PiterPunk - recovered from the power outage in Sao Paulo? [09:35] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: "Leaving" [09:35] Intel[R]VT-x: lilo needs the /proc access. /dev is optional, but probably you'll need your block devices -;). [09:36] alienBOB: Yes yes. I was at work, there we have generators. My wife had a worst experience here. [09:36] yea not the /dev because we need the block device file [09:37] lilo uses it [09:37] Intel[R]VT-x: but you don't need to do the bind mount of /dev. If you have some patience, you can create all block devices under /chrooted/dev by-hand. [09:42] hmm... apparently Zordrak's lilo article is wrong. there is no vim in the installer, is there? [09:42] vi? [09:42] slava_dp: i think there is... [09:42] not vim...but vi [09:43] that's what i think [09:43] sed is better [09:43] alienBOB: And I and j0k3r got trapped at work. No taxis, no trains, no metro, etc... [09:44] where can i purchase VT enabled processor ? :P [09:44] Intel[R]VT-x, oh, please, use sed if you wish. [09:44] Action: Intel[R]VT-x thinks sed is better than vi or vim in most cases [09:44] Action: nyRednek thinks Intel[R]VT-x would look better bleeding on the floor [09:45] init[1]: VT? [09:45] init[1]: purchase? [09:45] README_LVM.TXT on slackware DVD/CD have a good explanation about using chroot to run lilo in installer [09:45] processor? :D [09:45] nyRednek: omg that was joke,intented for Intel[R]VT-x ^ [09:45] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-137.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:46] Nick change: slava_dp -> Cyrix[TM]kvm-x [09:46] Nick change: Cyrix[TM]kvm-x -> slava_dp [09:47] init[1]: be r331 1337, steal one [09:47] i will be 1337:P [09:47] what about you [09:48] init[1]: i got my stuff out of dumpsters...instead of 1337, i'm scrubbin [09:48] hay guys [09:48] i just got home [09:48] spook: welcome back [09:48] wb,spook -y [09:48] nyRednek: :P [09:48] i have 3 beers in my bag, 2 coronas, and 1 shitty home brew that tastes worse than corona [09:48] and i ahve NO IDEA WHERE THEY CAME FROM [09:48] dora_ (n=dora@host75-53-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:48] spook: well, drink the homebrew last [09:48] spook: gf might have kept it :P [09:49] spook: probably i left. post them to me back, please [09:49] init[1]: no gf. [09:49] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.65.216) left irc: Connection timed out [09:49] agris: who even are you [09:49] i still have my bottle opener ring which is a good sign. [09:50] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:51] PiterPunk: since you're there.. did you get my feature request on slackpkg? Never heard back. [09:52] Action: Intel[R]VT-x sends :P to every slack and slax person [09:52] Intel[R]VT-x: are you *still* here? [09:52] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [09:52] Sier (n=sier@unaffiliated/sier) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:52] yes why ? [09:53] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-176-228-206.lns5.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:53] Intel[R]VT-x: Don't you get bored of hanging around waiting for trolling opportunities? [09:53] Sier (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:53] any linux question ? [09:53] I should not do trolls I should learn [09:53] any linux related question Zordrak ? [09:54] |mel| (i=1000@117.255.77.70) joined ##slackware. [09:54] Action: init[1] omg! [09:54] Action: init[1] people please don't confuse my nick with Intel[R]VT-x [09:54] Nick change: init[1] -> akber [09:54] intel[1] ? [09:54] slava_dp: as per mail.. article updated [09:55] robertf (n=frederic@ip-80-236-227-183.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: "Leaving" [09:56] Zordrak, good :) [09:57] ivenkys (n=ivenkys@unaffiliated/ivenkys) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:57] Intel[R]VT-x: why the hell are you back again [09:57] ivenkys (n=ivenkys@unaffiliated/ivenkys) joined ##slackware. [09:57] back ? why ? am I violating any rules ? [09:59] slackboy, show him the rules tome #57! [10:04] nmoura (n=nmoura@g3.alog.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:04] anyone used bluetooth keyboards with slackware? [10:04] Nick change: mako-dono -> mako-sama [10:06] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [10:08] dora_ (n=dora@host75-53-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:08] slava_dp: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/bluetooth-guide.xml [10:08] Action: akber gentoo is of some use :P [10:10] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "leaving" [10:10] akber: yea, pretty good wiki docs [10:11] Intel[R]VT-x: i dont like you. you are a poe. that is against my rules [10:11] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [10:11] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:11] damn, slackpkg has this 200 MHz pc processing CHECKSUMS.MD5 for over 10 minutes now. [10:11] for everyone playing out there, a poe is something that is either a troll, or the result of someone so stupid that seem like a troll [10:11] Nick change: caio -> Guest818 [10:11] slava_dp: :( press the turbo button [10:12] spook, :) nay, it's a modern one, a SiS SoC [10:12] hath no turbo button [10:12] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.148.219) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:13] can you un-acronym that for me pls [10:13] system-on-chip [10:13] oh like an AVR board. [10:13] like your mobile phone [10:13] Action: allend had it wrong, thought poe == piece of excrement [10:13] kinda. it's a tiny fanless thing we use for a router/remote access in the office. [10:13] allend: lol [10:14] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:14] woot. slackpkg finished! now to upgrade-all.... [10:14] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-206-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:16] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:18] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-206-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:18] slava_dp: yeah so its like an AVR board. what arch is it [10:19] spook, x86. the kernel does not recognize it as a valid cpu though, says it will run but without guarantees :) The cpuid string is SiS SiS SiS. [10:19] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [10:20] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:20] slava_dp: ah okay. sounds like fun. [10:20] slava_dp: why dont you submit a patch that fixes the cpuid for it :) [10:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [10:20] the kernel supports UMC UMC UMC UMC though :) dunno why SiS SiS SiS is not recognized :D [10:22] so write and submit a patch [10:22] spook, i'm just trying my first steps in C. totally inexperienced. [10:22] or, send me one of those boards and i'll write and submit the patch [10:22] :P [10:22] :P [10:23] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [10:23] spook, are you a C coder? [10:23] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.73.227) joined ##slackware. [10:24] i'm one of the two lead devs on #linuxpmi, a set of patches to add process migration to the linux kernel, so um... [10:24] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:24] just say yeah i am :D [10:24] slava_dp: yes i am :D [10:25] spook: imp ,wow [10:25] shit MPI [10:25] Action: akber nvm [10:25] akber: who are you??? [10:26] o_O [10:26] Nick change: akber -> init[1] [10:26] spook: i was worried people would get me wrong for Intel[R]VT-x [10:26] init[1]: huh? [10:26] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-206-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:27] oh you just changed nick. i have... [10:27] Action: init[1] tab fail would be the most common one [10:27] 1 ##slackware: CRAP MSGS NOTICES SNOTES CTCPS JOINS PARTS QUITS TOPICS [10:27] WALLOPS INVITES NICKS DCC DCCMSGS CLIENTNOTICES CLIENTCRAP CLIENTERRORS [10:27] Action: slava_dp compares init[1] to Intel[R]VT-x face to face. nope. no similarity. [10:27] thats my ignore list [10:27] YAY Intel! [10:27] oh [10:28] allright spook you are trhe [10:28] spook: at times its entertaining to see netsplits :P [10:28] you are the expert here , so leave me alone [10:29] Intel[R]VT-x: we never claimed to be nor would boast to be [10:29] Intel[R]VT-x: i am the expert here? what exactly am i leaving you alone about? [10:30] init[1]: its annoying, and tab complete tells me whos here and whos not. [10:30] init[1]: its makes the channel entirely about whats being said and nothing else. [10:31] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-138-108-219.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [10:31] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166022016.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:31] srecko1 (n=srecko@93-138-108-219.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [10:31] Action: Intel[R]VT-x expert ppl get jelos with the ppl who are trying hard to be a expert , and that's the nature . Oky peace out. I just want to read and listen , spook you are always my guru.There are millions of experts other than me so leave me alone and mess with somebody one that inside million. [10:31] hm yea to the point,any way when channel idles netsplits are cool :P [10:32] peace out [10:32] Intel[R]VT-x: how am i messing with you [10:33] thanks and glad that you not so let me go back to read spook ? I'm not the person that you thinks. I just a innocent student. [10:33] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:34] Intel[R]VT-x: i'm a student too. but when i first joined this channel i didnt act like an idiot. i joined and just watched what was said for a few months without talking AT ALL [10:35] oky I will listen and stop talking AT_ALL , so leave me alone now , and I can stay after this line [10:36] Intel[R]VT-x: [1]RFC1855 [2] http://tinyurl.com/3kox9k [3]Understand people in channel [4]be calm ,don't get carried away with issues in the channel [10:36] folks, just ignore the troll. He'll go away. [10:37] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.177.223) joined ##slackware. [10:37] thumbs: i dont think hes a troll. i do however think you should stop being in irc and get back on my hands :P [10:37] um... [10:37] thumbs: i'm drunk and making a joke because i love you man. [10:37] I think we'll agree to say that he's one extremely annoying character. [10:38] thumbs: i'll drink to that [10:38] Action: init[1] omg spook starts again [10:38] init[1]: what? [10:38] Action: init[1] ;) [10:38] zerosoul13 (n=angel@201.171.25.229.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) joined ##slackware. [10:38] Action: init[1] *i love you man* [10:39] hello [10:39] init[1]: i dont get it [10:39] zerosoul13: soup dawg [10:40] nothing much [10:40] zerosoul13: how can i help you [10:41] im just chilling [10:41] decided to try a new irc channel [10:41] thats al [10:41] zerosoul13: slackware user? [10:41] hell yea! [10:42] zerosoul13: awesome :D !!!! [10:42] have 3 pcs with my Slacky [10:42] office, home and laptop [10:42] :) [10:43] zerosoul13: this is the only public channel you are in. [10:43] yea [10:44] zerosoul13: and you are using pidgin for irc ! [10:44] yea [10:44] init[1]: i use pidgin for every account i have [10:44] sigh [10:45] zerosoul13: have a look at bitlbee [10:45] ok [10:45] zerosoul13: can you cat ~/.purple/accounts.xml ? [10:45] let me do that [10:45] to pastebin if you don't mind ? [10:45] ok [10:45] omg! [10:45] init[1]: you are asking for a ban. [10:45] spook: oops soory [10:45] zerosoul13: i take that back [10:46] ok [10:46] init[1]: im cool [10:46] :) [10:46] zerosoul13: your account passwords are stored plain text in that file, if you didnt already realise that [10:46] i just did [10:46] thanks for the heads up [10:46] holy smokes! [10:47] zerosoul13: btw,i triggered it :P [10:47] zerosoul13: lol [10:47] that sucks [10:47] init[1]: that has not put you in my good books [10:48] spook: i wasn't doing any harm,was just making him realize that fact, [10:48] im checking out right now bitlbee [10:49] init[1]: doesnt make a bit of difference. [10:49] hm,any way my intentions were not wrong spook -y :) [10:49] let me try to compile that thing [10:49] init[1]: you asked him to pastebin it [10:50] zerosoul13: its on slackbuilds.org [10:50] yep [10:50] heading there right now [10:50] brb [10:50] compiling... [10:50] yea,i did after ->omg! i were about to ask him not to,any way i'll not play these trick again :) [10:51] spook: ^ [10:52] init[1]: yeah, good plan. [10:52] :) [10:52] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:52] spook: im cool\ [10:53] zerosoul13: hmm? [10:53] yea [10:53] spook: im cool with init[1] [10:54] zerosoul13: not your decision though :P [10:54] o ok.. [10:54] then... have init[1] hanged! [10:54] zerosoul13: nothing happend dude,i think we just made you realize somthing :) ,infact they can ban me [10:55] init[1]: , spook i guess i need to read the guidelines [10:55] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:56] e01 (n=OSCorp01@77.70.127.155) joined ##slackware. [10:56] Action: zerosoul13 will try bitlbee after his coffee break [10:57] neonflux (n=neonflux@75.140.153.197) joined ##slackware. [10:58] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [10:59] rizitis (n=rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. 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[11:20] zerosoul13: oh oh. the correct way is to use inetd [11:20] kaimian (n=kaimian@189.103.224.34) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.2.6"). [11:21] o [11:21] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) left ##slackware. [11:22] zerosoul13: /usr/doc/packagename-andversion/ usually has helpful information [11:22] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [11:22] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:22] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:22] spook: [11:23] will do [11:23] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:23] zerosoul13: :D [11:23] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:24] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [11:25] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:26] mrclean (n=mrclean@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [11:26] How does one change console fonts? [11:26] (After install) [11:28] Nick change: madbear_ -> madbear [11:28] mrclean: two secs [11:28] mrclean: setconsolefont [11:29] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [11:29] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:30] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:30] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [11:32] spook: Ok, tnx [11:33] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:33] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[11:36] 13 [11:36] are you trying to use -current? [11:37] with what? [11:37] thats a no. [11:37] cpan is a real PITA [11:38] cr3rzemjest: sounds like kwin or something is messing up, ctrl alt backspace is probably your best best [11:38] nyRednek: its not THAT bad. [11:38] spook: yeah it is [11:38] spook: when required pm's fail to compile [11:38] nyRednek: nah its not. [11:39] spook: i tried to get Net::Twitter and WWW:Shorten::TinyURL [11:39] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:39] spook: guess what? [11:39] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [11:39] WWW:Shorten...? [11:39] spook: took me about 5 passes to get all the deps installed [11:39] nyRednek: you failed to use it properly. [11:39] missing a colon there? or just a typo? [11:40] alisonken1noc: typo [11:40] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:40] nyRednek: user error, replace user. [11:40] spook: nah...finally got it together [11:41] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [11:41] i wanted it so i could watch the tweets i'm following in irssi [11:41] nyRednek: exactly :P [11:41] i don't know what happened i was just trying out settings and suddenly there was no desktop and panel bar [11:41] now they're there [11:41] cr3rzemjest: sounds like kplas crashed HARD [11:41] rizitis (n=rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) left ##slackware. [11:42] ugh i hate being capped [11:43] spook: maybe i shouldn't have run force install on the first fail [11:43] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:43] nyRednek: perhaps that might have helped. [11:44] spook: and just kept running the install xxx repeatedly until nothing failed [11:44] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [11:44] nyRednek: user error... [11:45] spook: quite honestly, with cpan, it appears to fix failures that way, unless i'm seeing things wrong [11:45] nyRednek: cpan is pretty smart :) [11:46] well, my twirssi is working right, so i be happy for now [11:46] why am i sobering up, i should be drinking more! [11:46] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:47] i've been up for almost 24...time for some sleepy time [11:47] 24, pfffttt, easy. [11:47] spook: when i was younger, yeah [11:47] spook: when i have cocaine, yeah, still is(j/k) [11:49] spook: later [11:50] cocaine, drugs arent good for touy [11:51] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [11:51] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [11:51] |mel| (i=1000@117.255.77.70) left ##slackware. [11:52] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Client Quit [11:53] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [11:53] Axius (n=ade@92.85.208.91) joined ##slackware. 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[12:12] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-247-216-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:12] shyko (n=francisc@187.39.217.37) joined ##slackware. [12:14] hello slackworld! [12:14] hi, i'm using dropbox-client from alien's slackbuilds. it works well, except i cannot get links for files in 'Public' folder (in Thunar/Xfce). Anyone how to solve this? [12:18] beatzz (n=sheep@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [12:19] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-152-253.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:19] yes, this week is officaly over [12:19] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:20] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-066-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:20] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:21] guitarman4 (n=steve@s207-6-28-60.bc.hsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:37] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:37] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:38] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:39] yskapell (n=panthro@athedsl-4525798.home.otenet.gr) left ##slackware. [12:39] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:41] how to upgrade to slackware 13 from 12.1 [12:41] ? [12:41] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [12:42] RaJiL: really not recommended according to the docs. [12:42] fonseg (n=bnguyen@118.71.161.155) left irc: "leaving" [12:44] RaJiL: do a fresh install [12:44] RaJiL: either, as deco suggests do a fresh install, or do an upgrade to 12.2 and then 13.0 [12:45] ok, thx [12:45] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [12:45] other question.. [12:45] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435766.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:45] can install slackware from usb? [12:45] maciuszek (n=maciusze@141.117.180.53) left irc: "Leaving" [12:45] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:46] yes [12:47] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left ##slackware. [12:49] RaJiL: usb boot you mean? [12:49] yes [12:51] i wana rob a bank [12:51] and go out and buy the most bad ass cpu out there [12:51] like 16gb's ram [12:51] intel duo, the works [12:51] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:52] intel duo, lol. [12:53] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:53] well...w/e the best processor is [12:53] I want it [12:54] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-66-176.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [12:54] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: "ha oui, je me casse regarder un film" [12:55] RaJiL: yes, you can. Take a look at the usb-and-pxe-installers directory [12:56] ramdac (n=ramdac@41.233.29.196) joined ##slackware. [12:56] guys i have problem regarding sound on my laptop ... [12:58] my laptop contains nvidia hda sound card(it also named snd-hda-intel) when i plug in the headphones the sound comes form both headphones and the laptop speaker i solved this problem by adding an option alsa-base file under /etc/modprobe.d but that was under ubuntu [12:59] my question is there a file called alsa-base but under slackware [13:00] shyko: thx [13:00] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:00] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:00] RaJiL: welcome :) [13:00] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:01] so any idea ?? [13:01] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [13:02] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:03] Greetings everyone. :) [13:03] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [13:03] yo fire|bird ! [13:03] hey init[1] [13:03] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Success [13:03] whats up :P [13:04] Action: init[1] not the planet thingy :P [13:04] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [13:04] init[1]: haha, not much, you? [13:04] well my exams just got over :) \o/ [13:04] \o/ [13:05] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:05] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:06] my laptop contains nvidia hda sound card(it also named snd-hda-intel) when i plug in the headphones the sound comes form both headphones and the laptop speaker i solved this problem by adding an option alsa-base file under /etc/modprobe.d but that was under ubuntu [13:06] my question is :- is there a file called alsa-base but under slackware? [13:06] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.8.132) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:06] or what is the alternative file in slackware [13:07] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:07] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [13:08] skepsi (n=xxxx@94.127.129.34) joined ##slackware. [13:08] ramdac: what exactly you did in /etc/modprobe.d ? [13:10] shyko: under this directory(in ubuntu) there was a file named "alsa-base" i wrote in it "options snd-hda-intel model=laptop" but i installed slackware and didnt find alsa-base [13:11] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [13:12] what is the alternative of this file in slackware?? [13:15] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:15] ramdac: you haved try /etc/modprobe.conf? [13:16] the use of modprobe.conf is deprecated. Instead, create files in the /etc/modprobe.d/ directory containing modprobe options. [13:18] echo "options snd-hda-intel model=laptop" > /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel [13:19] Bp{k}: i tried to put the options on different file with different name i created "alsa-base" file and "sound" and "snd_hda_intel" but no effect [13:20] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@weirdbox.ddns.playtime.bg) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:20] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@weirdbox.ddns.playtime.bg) joined ##slackware. [13:20] it shouldn't really matter what they are named, I don't think, but using "module.conf" seems most appropriate [13:22] i'm gonna try mancha's method now [13:22] guax (n=guaxinim@201.47.74.147) joined ##slackware. [13:23] ramdac (n=ramdac@41.233.29.196) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:25] ramdac (n=ramdac@41.233.29.196) joined ##slackware. [13:25] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [13:26] giuppy_ (n=giuppy@host234-167-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:26] giuppy (n=giuppy@host172-170-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:26] no the output device failed to initialize [13:26] and i try use modprobe snd-hda-intel it says "FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.29.6-smp/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Invalid argument" [13:27] so it doesn't take that option [13:27] i dont think so [13:27] also, the slackware module-init-tools will accept modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel, but the file should end in ".conf" [13:27] but this statement that i wrote under alsa-base file worked in ubuntu [13:28] thrice: do u mean to rename the file to snd-hda-intel.conf [13:28] ? [13:28] it's not liking "aptop" [13:28] er "laptop" [13:28] ramdac, yep; that will be required in the near future, and is suitable now too :) [13:29] try "auto" instead of"laptop"? [13:29] fonseg (n=bnguyen@118.71.161.155) joined ##slackware. [13:30] what laptop model do you have? [13:30] which laptop is it? [13:31] skepsi (n=xxxx@94.127.129.34) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:31] mancha : nah it didnt work [13:31] how to autostart a service at boot per user, i.e. i just want to run this app when boot into my account, but not for other users. [13:31] MSI S430 MEGABOOK [13:31] skepsi (n=xxxx@94.127.129.34) joined ##slackware. [13:32] I missed the start; why do you need additional options passed? [13:33] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [13:33] i moved the snd-hda-intel.conf from the modprobe.d directory and succeeded in loading the snd-hda-intel module [13:34] so the problem is in the options [13:35] yes it doesn't like "laptop" [13:36] thrice:i have nvidia sound driver and when i plug in the headphones the sound comes from both speakers and headphones so i googled and found an option to be passed to the sound card that enables headphones radio button [13:36] thrice : which i toggle to mute the speakers but not the headphones [13:37] thrice : it is kind a temporary solution [13:37] so whatsup all [13:37] its friday. [13:39] can i get a w00t w00t!? [13:39] wh00t? [13:40] thats what im talking about!! [13:40] heh [13:40] maciuszek (n=maciusze@141.117.180.53) joined ##slackware. [13:41] Action: guax is waiting the 18:00 hours to drink the 8 litres of bud on the freezer [13:41] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [13:41] why wait? [13:41] my boss is looking [13:41] =( [13:42] oh shit, still at the job eh? [13:42] yeap [13:42] leave at 17:30 [13:42] still is 16:43 [13:42] Action: guax is counting the seconds [13:44] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) left irc: "caindo fora!!!" [13:44] skepsi (n=xxxx@94.127.129.34) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:44] bah, if u want time to fly [13:44] Action: thrice` wouldn't look forward to a fridge full of bud [13:44] I think I'd rather be at work :D [13:44] :O OoooOooo!!! [13:45] Damn! [13:45] do you want some ice guax !?! cause u just got BURNED [13:45] fonseg (n=bnguyen@118.71.161.155) left irc: "leaving" [13:46] Action: beatzz wonders if there is a slackware prefered CLI mp3 player [13:46] ramdac (n=ramdac@41.233.29.196) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:46] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.180) joined ##slackware. [13:47] Action: wollw prefers "aoss madplay -v " [13:47] or *.mp3 [13:47] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.180) left irc: Client Quit [13:47] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.15.17) joined ##slackware. [13:47] Action: guax uses mpg321 [13:48] ramdac (n=ramdac@41.233.29.196) joined ##slackware. [13:48] I like mplayer [13:48] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.180) joined ##slackware. [13:49] :o [13:49] mpg321 wins my vote [13:50] i'm very visual, i prefer vim file.mp3 [13:50] ramdac (n=ramdac@41.233.29.196) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:52] hmm to shift my laptop to slackware 13 or not... [13:53] B43 supported out of box in 13? [13:53] rg3 (n=deckard@90.169.82.57) joined ##slackware. [13:53] ramdac (n=ramdac@41.233.29.196) joined ##slackware. [13:54] Action: The_Seeker prefers moc [13:54] http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=moc [13:55] mpg321 does the job. music i listen in amarok [13:55] moc is ncurses not cli [13:55] true [13:56] I still prefer it ;) [13:56] me too [13:57] been checking the forums and all other resources i can, does anyone know how to toggle power to specific USB hub ports on a usb 2.0 device with attributes of: wHubCharacteristic 0x0029 [13:57] so dose anyone here stay in CLI? [13:57] like dosent run X at all? [13:57] --per-port-power-switching [13:59] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-66-176.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:00] beatzz (n=sheep@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:01] beatzz (n=sheep@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [14:01] argh i dont like krusader [14:02] maciuszek (n=maciusze@141.117.180.53) left irc: "Leaving" [14:02] but neither dolphin [14:04] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:04] and definitely not konqueror as a file manager [14:04] mc beats em all [14:05] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.15.17) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:05] how do you check your laptop battery's status via CLI?? [14:05] i'm amazed because suspending in slackware works 'out-of-the-box' while on debian i had to try all possible options in s2ram, because suspend in kde either didn't work(crash) or i had to wait 30 seconds etc... or maybe it's just KDE4? how do i check what happens(what command is used) during suspend? [14:06] beatzz: cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/info ? [14:06] ur the shit bro [14:06] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:06] beatzz: theres also scripts that can do it for you. eg acpi in SBo [14:07] ramdac (n=ramdac@41.233.29.196) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:07] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-189-55.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [14:07] without messing with /proc [14:08] Kaapa: do you have 2 batteries? [14:09] shyko: +1 on mc [14:09] sahk0: ^^ [14:09] Kaapa: what exactly shows the batterys current status? [14:09] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:09] Kaapa: "Last Fully Capasity:" ? [14:10] full* [14:11] ahh [14:11] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.254.90.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:12] u meant cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state [14:12] yep [14:13] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [14:15] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:15] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-189-55.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:16] CLI isent so bad. [14:16] the only quarel i have with CLI is no pictures on lynx [14:16] how am i suposed to look at my pron w/o pictures? [14:16] ascii porn [14:17] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:17] theres no such thing... [14:17] Action: beatzz hastily googles ascii porn [14:18] beatzz: links-g [14:18] w3m can do pictures too [14:19] omg [14:19] lol [14:19] awsome [14:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [14:20] toytoy! u gata check out ascii porn! [14:20] its so hot! [14:21] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:21] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [14:21] omg, that exists [14:21] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.22.48) joined ##slackware. [14:23] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:24] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) joined ##slackware. [14:25] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [14:26] when stuff is being played in jukebox, after ~5 seconds volume drops significantly(i mean that i can hear it). As if JuK tried to do fade-in but failed miserably... [14:27] wat do [14:27] amarok? =D [14:27] amarok is weird [14:27] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [14:28] and it has a wolf in tray icon [14:28] thats the magic [14:36] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.190.13) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [14:37] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [14:40] beatzz (n=sheep@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:41] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.190.13) joined ##slackware. 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[15:14] y0 Camarade_Tux [15:14] better: boot with root=/dev/your_partition, even easier ;-) [15:15] Action: The_Seeker is listening to For Your Life by Led Zeppelin on Presence [Amarok2] [15:16] yoyo fire|bird [15:16] hmmm [15:16] MooKimchi (n=kimchi@211.180.33.122) joined ##slackware. [15:20] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:20] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [15:22] NP: The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night [2009 Mono Remaster] - I'm Happy Just To Dance With You [15:22] if I have xfce running, is it possible to ssh into the computer and take a screen shot of the desktop through ssh? [15:23] Reticenti: scrot maybe [15:23] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-23-29.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:24] Reticenti: yes, just login as the user and use: DISPLAY=:0 import -window root screenshot.png [15:24] xfce-screenshoter has a display option, but i dont know what I would put for it [15:24] should be enough [15:24] just that command? [15:24] Reticenti: yes [15:24] DISPLAY=:0 import -window root screenshot.png [15:24] well, try and see :) [15:24] ok [15:25] Action: Camarade_Tux wants optipng to be included in slackware [15:25] now how can I see the pic in the terminal? [15:25] or is that not possible? [15:25] Nick change: kowalczyk -> Kowa [15:25] in terminal, AFAIK u need to enable framebuffer, and that [15:25] Axius (n=fd@92.82.68.209) joined ##slackware. [15:26] ...is in text more [15:26] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.68.168.181) joined ##slackware. [15:26] Reticenti: you can display it as ascii art, cacaview maybe [15:26] hmmm, nope [15:27] Reticenti: or, why not copy it to your computer through ssh? know scp? [15:27] fbview [15:27] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Client Quit [15:28] but that doesn't work over ssh I guess [15:28] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.68.168.181) joined ##slackware. [15:28] even sftp [15:28] :] [15:29] i think i'll just scp it to my current compy [15:29] :) [15:29] ok, i've got a problem with amarok as well(maybe that's the same thing as in JuK?), it seems everything i play is cut at the end and starts at 0:15 seconds for no reason? what's wrong? [15:29] anyone know any good sftp/scp for windows preferably with a gui ? [15:30] WinSCP ... [15:30] alienBOB: ok thanks [15:30] google probably does. i found one once but i forgot its name [15:30] winscp is muy bueno [15:30] snL20, try filezilla [15:31] I've had troubles with filezilla though, usually works ok but I found it unreliable sometimes [15:31] mk_ (n=00@187.89.238.112) joined ##slackware. [15:31] alienBOB, how does one help the root filesystem in a 'fully' encrypted hard drive scenario (LUKS+LVM) close LUKS and LVM fully before power-down? busybox root loaded to tmpfs? [15:31] dissocia1ive (n=2-04@200.31.21.186) joined ##slackware. [15:31] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [15:32] anyone knows how to search for a string or variable in the memory of a running program? [15:32] MooKimchi: possibly. You try it and report back [15:32] is it possible to startx over ssh? I don't want x forwarding, I just want startx to run as if I was typing it right there [15:32] jeev: ho humm, doesnt winscp work ? :] [15:32] alienBOB, roger that [15:32] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:32] :-) [15:32] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: "That's my story, and I'm sticking to it." [15:32] dissocia1ive: i think its grep string /proc//mem [15:33] dissocia1ive: gdb [15:33] are you looking for the VALUE of a variable? [15:33] u [15:33] dissocia1ive: you can attach to a running process [15:33] as far as I know gdb doesnt have builtin search function like that [15:33] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [15:34] mmm... [15:34] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Client Quit [15:34] I left irssi open at home [15:34] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:35] dissocia1ive: irssi has been running nonstop for about 35 days now on my computer.... [15:35] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-17-176.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:35] alienBOB, i'm not finding it in the man page... is cryptsetup/LUKS synchronous in terms of how it writes to the hard drive? [15:35] Reticenti: heh, I never turn my computer off =) [15:35] me too [15:36] 35 days of uptime, and 35 days ago i upgraded the ram [15:36] =D [15:36] lol [15:37] I can ssh to my home by looking at /whois dissociative yay [15:37] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.34.252) joined ##slackware. [15:37] Kowa (n=kowalczy@cm-84.209.88.122.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [15:37] i just have my ip bound to a url [15:37] via dyndns [15:37] dissocia1ive: I have netfilter only allow certain ips to ssh to my home box =) [15:38] i've never yet seen an ISP that allows ssh in [15:38] I set up public/private key authentication [15:38] lucky :P [15:38] yeah [15:38] oops [15:38] MooKimchi: well, its not running on the standard port [15:38] MooKimchi: my isp lets me ssh into my box [15:38] :-) [15:39] in fact, i'm at school sshed in right now :P [15:39] MooKimchi: your isp blocks incoming ssh connections? [15:39] matu (i=1000@client80-83-43-194.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [15:40] hehe [15:40] nooper, yes and i think by protocol because port changes don't matter [15:40] MooKimchi: what a crappy isp :] [15:41] oops [15:42] I forgot that I didnt setup pppoe to bypass the all the crap of the xdsl router [15:42] dissocia1ive: yeah, I only allow key auth [15:42] in the machine [15:43] computer [15:44] snL20: I don't do key auth, because then I'd have to carry arund a usb stick with my key on it [15:44] or put it on the cloud (email) and download it whereever i am [15:44] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.78.126.225) joined ##slackware. [15:45] Reticenti: yeah, I keep it on my usb stick I always have it on my keychain =) [15:45] nah, just learn it :D [15:45] haha [15:45] how many characters are they? [15:46] depends [15:46] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:46] I'm sure you can, might take some time though :P [15:46] sha515sum [15:46] =D [15:46] probably in the 50 range? [15:47] easy enough :D [15:47] heh [15:47] it'd be like memorzing pi [15:47] but more ahrdcore [15:47] hardcore* [15:47] by the way can Voice over IP work as peer to peer? [15:47] why not? [15:47] without a server [15:47] Reticenti: come on, try :P [15:47] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] Of course it can [15:48] Action: snL20 likes his usb stick =) [15:49] for key auth on ssh, you need the passphrase and the actual public key, right? [15:49] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [15:49] or is that a different kind of auth? [15:50] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [15:51] depends on the setup, Reticenti .... if you use putty to ssh into a linux box, yes. (at least thats the case on that one win machine at work :) ... i usually dont need to enter a pass when it comes to linux-linux ssh key auth frenzy [15:52] ah [15:53] stygian (n=stygian@icmp.port0.org) left ##slackware. [15:54] hiptobecubic: http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=go&lang2=gpp&box=1 [15:55] Reticenti: you will carry the *private* key with you [15:55] hmm? [15:55] ...which may or may not have a passphrase attached [15:55] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.78.126.225) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:55] stygian (n=stygian@icmp.port0.org) joined ##slackware. [15:55] Camarade_Tux, ah i see. thx [15:55] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.73.227) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:56] hiptobecubic: ^^ [15:57] Camarade_Tux, so it's like the others. smaller source and slower than c [15:57] hcfd (n=fed@host86-152-6-221.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:58] alienBOB: I'll just memorize them :P [15:58] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Connection timed out [15:58] but actually, I think I'll just stick with my passsword [15:58] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) joined ##slackware. [15:59] hiptobecubic: maybe [15:59] Kowalczyk (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) joined ##slackware. [15:59] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.76.35.113) joined ##slackware. [16:00] hiptobecubic: but one important thing is security: think about all the "buffer overflows" in C programs, they account for > 15% of all security flaws (much more probably) [16:00] I dont know why here the linux systems got to run in the almost outdated hardware [16:00] what is the proper ARCH= on a 32bit machine for slackware 13.0? [16:00] i just wanna make 100% certain I have it set right [16:00] Action: Camarade_Tux wonder how people get drunk that easily and fetches his third beer in a row [16:00] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.94.2) left irc: "Leaving" [16:01] alienBOB, you know it's sort of funny ... since it's Slackware one could tell "hey there should be a specific file on their machine that I know" i.e. /boot/slack.bmp [16:01] its accidently building x86_64 packages on my 32bit machine... its my bash evn variable that got fubar'd [16:01] Camarade_Tux, but is go better than say.... python+psyco? [16:01] I am now in a vista box and I got the urge of use a unix shell [16:01] mk_ (n=00@187.89.238.112) left irc: "leaving" [16:01] someone serious (or OCD depending on your viewpoint) about security would introduce some "entropy" to that file (like make some minor modifications to it lol) [16:02] the one which you cant live without [16:02] dissocia1ive: use cygwin [16:02] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@83.225.68.230) joined ##slackware. [16:02] hiptobecubic: the problem with python (and any interpreted language) is that there is a whole bunch of error a compiler would catch but that you would only notice when they happen if you're using an interpreted language [16:03] mfillpot (n=matt@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] good afternoon everyone [16:03] Camarade_Tux: did i ever tell you , that you're my hero :) [16:04] vvl [16:04] oops [16:04] bbl [16:04] dissocia1ive (n=2-04@200.31.21.186) left irc: "leaving" [16:04] deco: haha, lol, why? [16:04] I have an interesting issue is anyone wants to take a stab at it [16:04] Camarade_Tux, psyco compiles things to speed them up. That give at least some measure of protection. Further, you get the runtime errors, but avoid the buffer problems [16:04] hi mfillpot [16:04] well... hmm... does this SOUND right to anyone --- ARCH=x86 on a slackware 13.0 32bit machine? [16:04] hiptobecubic: doesn't it compile them at runtime? [16:05] Camarade_Tux: :) [16:05] I don't really know psyco, I have to check [16:05] Camarade_Tux, yes, i think so, but it will compile them on yours when you run it to see if it works [16:05] fnord0, why not check some existing slackbuilds or whatever you're doing? to see what is correct [16:05] stygian, heh... well, that would just be too easy [16:06] stygian, for sure I WILL DO THAT! [16:06] stygian, thanks man [16:06] since the power outages last night my computer has been displaying artifacts, after I reset the bios to defaults it was fixed until my sone entered blender, does anyone have an idea of what may be causing this? [16:06] hiptobecubic: yeah, psyco is just-in-time, it won't catch more errors than regular psyco [16:06] stygian, that didnt even cross my mind! [16:06] glad to help :P [16:06] actually there is a vim plugin that has been released very recently and that can almost tell you your errors as you write them ;-) [16:07] mfillpot: maybe the graphic card got some shock [16:07] Camarade_Tux, in what? [16:08] Camarade_Tux, that is what I was thinking, that maybe the accelerator chip is damaged. But it may also be related to the bois since when I type artifacts are appearing. [16:08] any language that gets compiled, it will be limited to errors and warnings given by the compiler, but you get the idea: the sooner you know about the error, the better [16:08] mfillpot: "bois"? [16:09] Camarade_Tux, sorry I am in cli right now in irssi, no spell check, the BIOS is what I meant. [16:10] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.78.96.153) joined ##slackware. [16:10] well, I had a burnt card which would display any pixel over a whole horizontal line, like my mouse cursor was replicated 1280 times... [16:10] mfillpot: can you maybe use another card and compare? [16:12] stygian, thanks, easy enuff i found that it should be either ARCH=i486 or ARCH=i686... I gonna stick with i486 for now. I found this via the slackbuilds.org/template.SlackBuild (per your suggestion of "why not check some existing slackbuilds"!) [16:12] stygian, so... all in all - u rock [16:12] thanks stygian! [16:12] ya'all have a great day [16:12] peas out [16:12] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) left irc: "Leaving" [16:12] tuxdev (n=tim@128.238.246.205) joined ##slackware. [16:12] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:13] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090803134719]" [16:13] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [16:15] chb (n=1000@host81-181-238-85.hiway.at) joined ##slackware. [16:16] mfillpot_ (n=matt@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:16] fuzzix__ (n=fuzzix@93.107.154.125) joined ##slackware. [16:16] sorry, I probed my vid card and the system froze, Camarade_Tux, do you think this is gpu or BIOS related? [16:16] Nick change: pragma_ -> RuralHack [16:19] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [16:19] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.78.96.153) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:19] hi, is it easy to move slackware to a completely new hardware? all i did was copy my root partition onto an external hard drive and copied it onto another machine [16:19] woo, i just did my first find script [16:19] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435766.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:20] havent tried booting yet, just finishing off the copy [16:20] looked through a directory tree and deleted a certain type of file in the entire tree [16:20] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-17-176.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:20] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-419954.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:20] slimo, if you are using a default kernel then it shouldn't be hard, the only exception is if you installed propriatary drivers [16:21] mfillpot, cool, but i noticed there was some kernel modules configuration saved somewhere that it loads everytime during bootup, does it generate a new one? [16:21] hiptobecubic: cython/pyrex create C code out of python code though (I think) [16:21] Nick change: RuralHack -> a [16:21] hm [16:21] haven't looked at it [16:21] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.76.35.113) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:21] slimo, those modules are in /etc/modprobe.d/ if oyu haven't changed them then they will still be set to the universal defaults [16:22] I am really shitty at algorithm design. How unfortunate. [16:22] I am hating these artifacts [16:23] Nick change: a -> pragma_ [16:23] ok ill give it a shot [16:23] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [16:23] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-137.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:23] mfillpot: if you can try another video card, try another video card ;-) [16:23] :win 17 [16:23] bleh [16:23] mfillpot: it'll only take a few minutes to try :) [16:23] Camarade_Tux, first I have to get my hands on one, hopefully I can get my friend to come over wit hhis for a test [16:24] mfillpot_: but a dead graphic card will also show artifacts in bios [16:25] Camarade_Tux: im going all CLI [16:25] "in a restricted subset, called RPython (Restricted Python). Unlike standard Python, RPython is statically typed, to allow efficient compilation.[2]" <- he, I don't call that python [16:25] beatzz: ^^ [16:26] Camarade_Tux, why I am questioning the BIOS is because the reset worked this morning. [16:26] Axius (n=fd@92.82.68.209) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:26] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-137.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:26] ok, I'm out... thanks Camarade_Tux [16:27] mfillpot_ (n=matt@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:27] mfillpot (n=matt@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:27] sQuEE (n=narya@host121.201-253-142.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:27] Action: Camarade_Tux had broken hardware that would *magically* work again [16:27] or sometimes, after being cooled to pretty low temps [16:28] translation: "after i accidentally spilled my beer on it" [16:28] Camarade_Tux :P [16:28] MooKimchi: ^^ [16:28] MooKimchi: I only spilt beer on my pants and shirt, and that was well over 40 minutes :D [16:29] Action: Camarade_Tux spilt one beer on his pants and another one on his shirt >< [16:29] lol [16:30] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-45-71.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [16:30] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:33] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.68.240.122) joined ##slackware. [16:34] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [16:34] ok, good night guys :) [16:34] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Connection timed out [16:34] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [16:35] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [16:38] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:41] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [16:41] hmmm, anyone use alternate emails with google services? [16:42] heya Necos [16:42] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-419954.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:42] hey fire|bird [16:42] Necos, what do you mean? [16:42] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [16:43] hiptobecubic: I think he means entering an alternate address in case you lose a password, etc. [16:43] i have three gmails turned google accts, so i just use them for each other [16:44] gmail is blocked here, but we're using google calendars, so i want to tie another email to the calendar [16:44] Necos: seriously gmail is blocked ? :o [16:44] Necos, gmail is blocked? that sucks. [16:44] necos, was about to message you asking if you were still alive [16:44] lol jeev, you have me on blackberry messenger :P [16:44] yea [16:45] yeah, it's the child internet protection act BS [16:46] because gmail is considered "anonymous email", it's blocked [16:46] i don't think it's BS at all [16:46] i don't want my kids being exposed to you idiots 8-P [16:46] lol [16:46] you're the idiot for having kids... [16:46] oh [16:46] yeah kids are lame [16:47] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:47] hmm kids are not an mp3 encoder ... 8-S [16:47] don't make the government pick up the slack for your inability to raise your kids [16:47] i never asked them to [16:47] kozandr (n=kozandr@92.243.174.247) joined ##slackware. [16:47] that's what CIPA is [16:48] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62.47.137.202) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:48] I like kids. [16:49] deep fried. [16:49] it's not my fault that other people are unable to raise children [16:49] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:51] but i don't think they should be in here, Camarade_Tux will only spill beer on them [16:51] 8-) [16:53] so they'll smell like they should be eaten >.> [16:53] lol [16:55] fuzzix__ (n=fuzzix@93.107.154.125) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:58] ok, i figured it out... apparently i can create a google acct with my LAUSD address [16:58] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.130.179) joined ##slackware. [16:58] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@80-123-57-229.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [17:00] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [17:01] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:02] my boss suggested that i do it, and it worked... heh [17:02] estud05 (n=estud05@201.232.54.132) joined ##slackware. [17:02] and now i can download sync for my blackberry and have it sync up the calendar... kinda pimp [17:02] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-137.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:03] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-17-176.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:03] if I connect my computer to a network physically but I dont know which address to use is there a way to find that out without using dhcp? [17:04] or find the computers connected to that network [17:04] what kind of network? a lan or your isp? [17:04] set a manual ip and then use tcpdump to set what addresses are producing traffic lol [17:04] lan [17:04] is there something in place to make date & time be updated through ntp? or is it a case of setting up a cron job yourself? [17:04] get the address and netmask and pick an ip that fits [17:05] Necos: the only way to that to work would be my computer receiving incoming traffic [17:05] it's called passive snooping [17:05] I tried pinging 255.255.255.255 [17:06] whats wrong with dhcp anyway? [17:06] you don't have to "receive" anyone's traffic... you're just seeing what's on the wire [17:06] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.254.90.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:06] apparently, he's trying to be stealthy [17:07] but if he's on a resnet, you have to register your MAC anyway [17:07] there was a proxy in the lan but I'm not sure if it was a global proxy to all sublans [17:08] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [17:08] I tried to configure my IP to the same range that the proxy had but It doesnt works anymore [17:09] if you're routing your traffic through the proxy, you can be damn sure it filters down [17:09] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [17:09] the proxy just was for accessing http/s and ftp [17:09] and it replied to ping request before [17:09] now it doesnt [17:10] do both [17:10] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:11] this seems to messed up [17:11] I asked the tech admins and they say that all internet access is through proxy [17:12] but I find some machines being NATed [17:12] wow, congratulations, i told you that a minute ago [17:12] I think [17:12] no, if you're thinking, you're wrong [17:12] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [17:12] the reason they put a proxy like that in place is to monitor traffic [17:12] I'm in one of those ones now [17:13] if the admins are anything worth their salt, they locked it up tight [17:15] but I need to setup the proxy access for trying to resolve another different problem with them [17:15] again [17:16] its like the machines which have internet access through nat are able to access a local web server host which the machines which only have proxy access cant access it [17:17] and its that way like since two weeks [17:17] which makes me think that your netops department should be able to fix it [17:18] and you should be using dhcp as per their guidelines... not trying to be stealthy mcnealy and screw everything up :) [17:18] but they say that they havent detected or figured the problem [17:19] looks like I didnt explain to them right and I figured it out after [17:22] frullet (n=hooch@203-214-23-90.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:23] sweetandy (n=sweetand@c-98-237-235-242.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:25] zerosoul13 (n=angel@201.171.25.229.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] MooKimchi (n=kimchi@211.180.33.122) left irc: "Leaving" [17:27] Hello :) [17:28] fredoslack: hi [17:28] HI zerosoul13 [17:28] deco, hi [17:28] hi fredoslack [17:28] fire|bird, hi [17:28] fredoslack: ca va :) [17:28] hcfd (n=fed@host86-152-6-221.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:28] deco, yes nickem thank you [17:28] :) [17:28] fredoslack: smilies ? :P [17:28] deco, j'ai installed a Linux Karmic [17:28] ^^ [17:28] fredoslack: hehe nice [17:29] no aucun smiley at this time [17:29] en ce moment [17:29] sorry * [17:29] heh [17:29] hcfd (n=fed@host86-152-6-221.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:30] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left ##slackware. [17:33] estud05 (n=estud05@201.232.54.132) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:33] umz (n=umz@116.71.17.175) joined ##slackware. [17:34] Hi all I need some help to connect to my vpn using slackware [17:34] umz: using openvpn [17:34] ? [17:35] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:35] mspptp zerosoul13 [17:35] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.21.28) joined ##slackware. [17:35] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-247-216-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: [17:35] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.24.26) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:35] Nick change: mako-dono -> mako-sama [17:36] umz: pptp is kinda unsecure [17:36] man i just need to connect to my office [17:36] uwz use openvpn [17:36] i cant ask them to switch to openvpn [17:36] i need to configure client [17:36] infact i have configured one but [17:37] after few seconds i get disconnection [17:37] vpn-wichorus [17:37] Nov 14 03:35:14 darkstar pptp[23340]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:912]: Received Call Clear Request. [17:37] Nov 14 03:35:45 darkstar pptp[23340]: anon log[pptp_read_some:pptp_ctrl.c:544]: read returned zero, peer has closed [17:37] Nov 14 03:35:45 darkstar pptp[23340]: anon log[callmgr_main:pptp_callmgr.c:258]: Closing connection (shutdown) [17:37] Channel flood from umz -- kicking [17:37] Nov 14 03:35:45 darkstar pptp[23340]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: Sent control packet type is 12 'Call-Clear-Request' [17:37] Nov 14 03:35:45 darkstar pptp[23340]: anon log[pptp_read_some:pptp_ctrl.c:544]: read returned zero, peer has closed [17:37] Nov 14 03:35:45 darkstar pptp[23340]: anon log[call_callback:pptp_callmgr.c:79]: Closing connection (call state) [17:37] umz kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:37] idiot... [17:37] hahaha [17:37] hey macavity, how are you? [17:38] i thought openvpn could both act as client and server? [17:38] argh... [17:38] a VPN is, as far as i understand it, a "server to server" model, right? [17:38] umz (n=umz@116.71.17.175) joined ##slackware. [17:38] umz: dont do that again.... [17:38] umz: use a pastebin next time. [17:38] i wont :p [17:38] okz [17:39] so can any 1 guess whats wrong? [17:39] macavity: yes openvpn can work as server and client [17:39] umz: i couldnt get the pptp to work on nat [17:39] umz: see "man openvpn" [17:39] umz: type /EXAMPLES and hit enter [17:39] zerosoul13, they have configured mspptp for years they cant just switch for me [17:40] sweetandy (n=sweetand@c-98-237-235-242.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:40] the implementation doesnt matter [17:40] umz: do they know is really unsecure? [17:41] estud05 (n=estud05@201.232.54.132) joined ##slackware. [17:41] zerosoul13 i really dont care I have to email thats it [17:41] umz: anyhow, whats the config [17:41] ok, this is pretty easy [17:41] :-X [17:41] i just grokked how vpn works just by looking over the examples in the manpage [17:41] and i have never used one, let alone even set one up [17:42] zerosoul13, http://pastebin.com/m7163a6ad [17:42] this is just a crypto tunnel [17:42] umz: thanks [17:42] umz: you need to pry the exact setup out of the sysadms [17:43] well its working in ubuntu [17:43] using networkmanager [17:43] now am on slackware with kde [17:43] kvpnc just getting crashed [17:43] ok [17:44] estud05 (n=estud05@201.232.54.132) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:44] macavity: openvpn != pptp [17:44] firedix (n=firedix@host26.201-252-182.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [17:45] The two are incompatible. Do not assume it is "easy" [17:45] O_o [17:45] okies.. [17:45] umz: who said they were compatible [17:45] ? [17:45] http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/PPTP_VPN_on_Slackware_How_to [17:45] umz [17:45] i asumed that they were since i mentioned in a way that made it look like it was a vpn server [17:46] macavity tried to convince umz to use openvpn to connect to a pptp endpoint [17:46] o no [17:46] my bad [17:46] zerosoul13, i followed this link :) [17:46] thats why i have reached so far [17:46] lol [17:46] o ok [17:46] are you running on nat? [17:46] VPN can be anything that ties multiple sites together using provate traffic streams over a public network macavity [17:47] hcfd (n=fed@host86-152-6-221.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Connection timed out [17:47] roger [17:47] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-17-176.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [17:47] Action: macavity goes reading [17:47] The encryption can be ssl, ipsec, pptp - but those do not mix [17:47] hcfd (n=fed@host86-152-6-221.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:48] Action: alienBOB goes cleaning the cat litter [17:48] so in short, i grokked openvpn from looking at the examples.. not vpn in general [17:49] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@83.225.125.0) joined ##slackware. [17:50] / [17:50] \ [17:50] | [17:51] _o/ [17:51] / [17:51] lol [17:51] - [17:52] spinner [17:52] sQuEE (n=narya@host80.201-252-49.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [17:52] umz: im sorry to say that i have no idea on what could be wrong [17:52] ok thanks for the help [17:53] zerosoul13 he actually pastebin'd? [17:53] and sorry for talking out of my ass... i really though "vpn" was a proper standard [17:53] apparently it is just a very vague term [17:54] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-17-176.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:54] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:54] it's called being buzzword complient [17:55] *compliant [17:55] zerosoul13, EAP: unknown authentication type 13; Naking [17:55] this is th problem now [17:58] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:00] pastebin umz [18:00] use the pastebin [18:00] Necos, shud i use pastebin for one single line? [18:00] or perhaps i shoud post my question in paste bin then give you a link [18:00] rg3 (n=deckard@90.169.82.57) left irc: "Leaving." [18:00] then u respond on pastebin and send me a link [18:01] you should paste all relevant information to a pastebin [18:01] because there are errors above and below it [18:01] Necos, I have the relevant info but not the right guy to help me out [18:01] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:02] millennia (n=millenni@c-76-19-53-234.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:03] anyone active? [18:04] can any1 tell me how can i set not to use eap while calling pppd [18:05] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-17-176.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:05] millennia: ask your question. if anyone awake knows the answer they will tell you [18:06] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-23-29.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:06] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.52.166) joined ##slackware. [18:06] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:06] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-17-176.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:07] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) joined ##slackware. [18:07] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-23-29.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:07] Action: NyteOwl is radioactive [18:08] Afrer a fifth of Irish I even glow in the dark :) [18:09] and after next fifth of november we will all glow in the dark :P [18:09] I'm having an impossible time installing 13. It fdisks fine, it installs all the packages I select fine, but then one of two things happens, 80% chance it locks up everything while running sbin/rescan-scsi-bus 20% the script fails because ash segfaults so it doesn't lock up but it doesn't install lilo or a kernel [18:10] not me. I may be Zombie hunting though :p [18:10] millennia: sounds like a hardware error to me [18:10] Runs freebsd fine [18:11] or a bad media burn? [18:11] dBm (n=bx@unaffiliated/dbm) joined ##slackware. [18:11] dBm (n=bx@unaffiliated/dbm) left ##slackware. [18:11] I checked the disk against the iso and against the md5 [18:11] how did you check the disk against the iso? [18:12] stygian (n=stygian@icmp.port0.org) left irc: "update" [18:12] diff -s -d /dev/cd0c disc1.iso [18:12] (in freebsd) [18:12] ok, that should work [18:13] still, when you dont get the same behaviour everytime, usually something else is at play [18:13] might be a kernel bug [18:13] hcfd (n=fed@host86-152-6-221.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:13] is that a dual core? [18:14] or rather, plural core [18:14] It a dual pentium 3 [18:15] ok, so we know that we dont have a 100% guarentee that threads will be scheduled the same way every time [18:15] I tried hugesmp.s and huge.s, no difference [18:15] i dont like that ash segfaults [18:15] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.190.13) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [18:16] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:16] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [18:16] the error trace from ash segfaulting carried all the other errors off the screen [18:16] do you have a spare disk or a USB stick? [18:16] I was installing it to a spare disk [18:16] sorry, spare cd/dvd? [18:16] i was thinking memtest86 [18:17] Yes, I've tested the memory, and freebsd never segfaults [18:17] you can download a ready made iso from their site... its only like 2 megs [18:17] It might have been memtest86, the dos version [18:18] that freebsd never segfaults doesnt count, as it has a totally other VMM implementation.. but if you testet it with some other tool i will take your word for it [18:18] I have 1.5gb, 3x 512mb pc133 [18:18] stygian (n=stygian@icmp.port0.org) joined ##slackware. [18:18] Tualatin? [18:19] candinho (n=candinho@200-207-56-94.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:19] a tualtin capable board, but standard 1ghz chips, if I ever find some tualatin chips, I'll upgrade [18:19] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [18:19] i have a dual tualatin 1266 in the basement [18:20] sounds nice [18:20] overclocked? [18:20] nope [18:20] this board won't o/c [18:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [18:20] MooKimchi (n=kimchi@211.180.33.122) joined ##slackware. [18:21] do the tualatin chips all come with the 512k cache? [18:21] no [18:21] there is the 256kb version too that wont do SMP [18:21] so I should be careful if I do find them [18:21] just to see if it could be a hardware problem, could you go to the BIOS and trim things down? [18:21] millennia, depends on the tualatin chip [18:21] the better ones had 512K L2 cache (each) [18:22] tualatin-S i think they were called [18:22] i belive that all the 1266 ones are 512/SMP [18:22] hi, im having one problem instaling alsa, when i run /sndevices it creates all files /dev/snd, but when i restart all files are gone [18:22] candinho, what sound card? [18:23] hda-intel [18:23] It's all scsi and a firewire controller, I have the ide controller and usb turned off. [18:23] hda-intel sound card [18:24] MooKimchi, hda-intel can u help? [18:25] paissad_ (n=paissad@89.87.195.22) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:25] macavity, is that trimmed enough? [18:26] candinho, uh did you run alsaconf? [18:26] relax the memory latency [18:26] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:26] and even try and step the FSB down to 100 if you can [18:26] there's no control for that, it's automatic [18:26] yes [18:27] really... try and make the box a retard :P [18:27] MooKimchi, yes i did [18:27] I can't control the fsb, it gets that from the chip [18:27] millennia: if you put the curser where it says "By SPD", cant you press enter and get the values up? [18:27] candinho, wow, uh, is udev running? [18:27] oh man.. that is a seriously brain damaged motherboard :-/ [18:27] There literally is no control for changing memory timings [18:28] MooKimchi, how i do to know if udev is running? [18:28] ls -lh /etc/rc.d/rc.udev [18:28] pgrep udev [18:28] if executable, it ought to at least start up when you [re]boot [18:28] millennia: ok, you sound comfortable with hardware.. can you move the scsi card one slot? [18:28] it's pretty impossible to run your system without udev [18:28] millennia: i know it sounds odd.. but P3 SMP is known for broken ACPI [18:28] i'd also check to make sure your sound modules are loading [18:28] pgrep udev show this number 1196 [18:29] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:29] then it's running. that's its process ID. [18:29] 1196 is the pid ? [18:29] pgrep udevd * [18:29] have you read dmesg | less [18:29] macavity I tried switching slotsd after the last time I came here, I have acpi turned off all the time [18:29] millennia: btw, i just looked it up, if you find a 1266MHz P3 you can be sure it is a Tualatin 512/SMP [18:29] in kernel i put * in soundcard, alsa, hda-intel [18:30] btw in less you can enter /error [enter] to search for all occurrences of "error" etc [18:30] candinho, does the stock slackware kernel have this sound card problem too? [18:30] MooKimchi, i will read the dmsesg now [18:30] candinho: hda-intel is just the bridgehead to the chip.. you need snd-hda-codec-realtek (or what ever chip is on there) [18:31] yes i think so [18:31] millennia: ok, then try with acpi turn on :P [18:31] macavity, yes its realtek [18:31] is this a laptop or a desktop? [18:31] deco, do you want to eat ? >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Manger/0038.gif [18:31] laptop [18:32] candinho: do you have the module loaded? [18:32] If I turn on acpi, I know it's broken, it crashes freebsd [18:32] candinho: lsmod | grep codec [18:32] do you want to drunk ? >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Boissons/0005.gif [18:32] ^^ [18:32] candinho, what brand and model (example Dell Inspiron D600) [18:32] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.22.48) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:32] macavity, in realtek web they give the alsa more some txt to u configure modrpo.d/sound only this [18:32] macavity, yes , msi notebook [18:32] speak proper english [18:33] MooKimchi, it is one Mirax notebook [18:33] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/sanzilla) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:33] fredoslack: lol nice [18:33] ^^ [18:33] millennia, just because ACPI crashes with BSD don't mean it will with Linux necessarily [18:33] millennia: try and see.. the worst thing that can happen is that you need to flipflop it depending on what you want to boot into [18:33] millennia, is this a laptop or a desktop? [18:34] deco, i m' gooing soon install a slack [18:34] millennia's is a dual pentium 3 scsi system [18:34] fredoslack: great :) [18:34] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:34] lsmod | grep codec shows nothing [18:34] because i have bugs with Ubuntu 9.10 [18:34] with Pulse Audio [18:34] candinho: try modprobe snd-hda-codec-realtek [18:34] paissad_ (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:34] fredoslack: yeah i hate that, i love alsa :P [18:34] candinho, uh lsmod | grep ac97 [18:34] ^^ [18:35] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:35] not ac97 is hda high definition [18:35] desktop macavity, part of the problem is when it runs rescan-scsi-bus, it thinks it sees a firewire drive which really isn't there, and it says it trying to add it to the system, maybe ahead of sda [18:35] candinho, ah yes my fault [18:35] Camarade_Tux: sup all [18:35] candinho: lol.. you can perfectly well stick an ac97 compliant chip at the end of the HDA bus [18:35] sup all* [18:35] millennia, ever tried "noieee1394" ? i think that one works for stock kernels (not just Knoppix) [18:36] i.e. at boot [18:36] where to I enter the noieee1394 option? [18:36] i did modprob snd-hda-intel [18:37] candinho: try modprobe snd-hda-codec-realtek [18:37] millennia, at boot [18:37] say your image is Linux at the LILO prompt, press tab key on keyboard, then type in Linux noieee1394 [18:37] macavity: dose slackware 13 have B43 drivers? [18:37] millennia: when you pick the kernel, just append any options [18:38] you mean where the cd-booter asked which kernel you want? [18:38] i think that will work but i am not sure (worth a try) [18:38] brb [18:38] MooKimchi (n=kimchi@211.180.33.122) left irc: "Leaving" [18:38] is that a "-noieee1394" [18:38] macavity: cause if i switch to 13 on my primary laptop, i wont be able to connect to the net w/o wifi [18:38] hey guys the umz issue got fixed using this post [18:38] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Microsoft_VPN_client_setup_with_pptpclient [18:38] beatzz: it looks like it [18:38] bash-3.1# modprobe snd-hda-intel-codec-realtek [18:38] :) [18:38] FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel_codec_realtek not found. [18:38] //lib/modules/2.6.29.6-smp/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/b43/b43.ko [18:38] macavity: ok, i think i will put 13 on my laptop then [18:39] candinho: sorry [18:39] wait [18:39] i didnt say intel [18:39] modprobe snd-hda-codec-realtek [18:39] macavity, np, thanks for help anyway [18:39] ok i will try [18:39] umz (n=umz@116.71.17.175) left irc: "Leaving" [18:39] beatzz (n=sheep@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:40] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:40] Fatal too :( [18:40] you dont have that? [18:40] would that be "noieee1394" or "-noieee1394"? [18:40] millennia: the former [18:40] macavity, no sir [18:40] is this the regular slackware kernel? [18:40] stygian (n=stygian@icmp.port0.org) left ##slackware. [18:40] macavity, and dont have for download in realtek too [18:40] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:40] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-23-29.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Connection reset by peer [18:41] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:41] macavity, i made some changes in kernel, a lot of options :P [18:41] /lib/modules/2.6.29.6-smp/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-codec-realtek.ko [18:41] bbl [18:41] you probably forgot that one.... [18:41] millennia (n=millenni@c-76-19-53-234.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:41] i will see the kernel with menuconfig [18:41] brb [18:41] >_< [18:41] i said this *right* from the beginning [18:42] snd-hda-intel is *only* for the pci<->hda bus controller [18:42] the actual soundchip could be made by any imaginable vendor on the face of the planet [18:43] Action: macavity stabs intel for making a sandard that purposfully make them look like they intented everything in the system [18:43] woot got my netbook today [18:43] lotec: Atom? [18:44] yeppers [18:44] 1.6 [18:44] 1gb of ram [18:44] over grown pocket calculator ;-) [18:44] about to install slack [18:44] is it an EeePC? [18:44] no [18:45] Acer One? [18:45] asus [18:45] ok.. Asus has more than one line of netbooks? [18:45] bah [18:45] sorry acer [18:45] :P [18:46] Acer One then.. expect to get to fight with the Broadcom gadget they call a wifi card [18:46] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [18:46] yea, that is going to be fun [18:46] this thing is so small [18:47] dont know if i am going to like it [18:47] you will probably end up bending over and let them do you with out lube before you get a fully free driver running on that thing [18:47] ill use nds if i have to [18:47] not a big deal [18:48] macavity, realtek HD-audio suport is * [18:48] it is different name [18:48] candinho: check all the other ones too [18:48] how is the command now? [18:48] all of them [18:48] ok i will [18:48] if it doesnt autodetect, something is probably fishy [18:48] dissociative (n=5-03@200.31.21.186) joined ##slackware. [18:49] macavity, i will compile the kernel now [18:49] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [18:49] how do I specify a url that contains proxy:port somesite.com [18:49] and later i will uninstall and reinstall alsa [18:49] or no need reinstall alsa [18:49] no need to [18:49] ? [18:49] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:49] what i want to know is: does it work without hickup with the regular slackware kernels? [18:50] greetings and salutations [18:50] greetings andarius, how are you? [18:50] salutations fire|bird, i am well. how are you ? [18:50] andarius: I am great, thank you. :) [18:50] macavity, i think with the original kernel the /dev/snd was empty too [18:50] you shouldnt think [18:51] macavity, i dont remember sorry [18:51] when done compiling, boot it and check if sound works [18:51] that is, boot a Pat V blessed kernel and check if Amarok can play or something like that [18:51] sound is working but without dev/snd i lost a lot of configurations [18:51] if it can, then we know what to focus on [18:52] if alsa works the way it is supposed to, there need be no configuration [18:52] a lot of programs say that cant find /dev/snd files, and always something dont work in those programs [18:52] did you load the oss compatibility layer? [18:54] macavity, trying to find this [18:54] macavity, one sec [18:55] and you *are* running udev, right?!? [18:56] if not, chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.udev [18:57] it's not easy to run without udev [18:57] macavity, yes udev is runnig [18:57] hey thrice`, how's it going? [18:57] cant find this oss layer [18:57] fire|bird, going well, yourself ? [18:57] candinho: it is launced from /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa [18:58] launched* [18:58] by default on slackware oss is from loading the also oss compat modules [18:58] loaded at startup by /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa as macavity noted ;) [18:58] candinho: and /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa is +x right? [18:58] thrice`: great, thanks. I was just messing with my bash prompt on the desktop and a Fedora Xfce spin on the laptop. [18:58] run :) my prompt is pretty boring [18:59] macavity, i go check now [18:59] is there any dns servers that can I use aside 4.2.2.x [18:59] they seem to be down or dont work for me [18:59] alkos333 (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:59] opendns and freedns [18:59] dissociative: 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 [19:00] i dont have this file rc.alsa [19:00] there is you problem... [19:00] you didnt install alsa-utils [19:00] yes i did [19:01] fire|bird, use zsh :) http://slackadelic.com/~thrice/configs/dot.zshrc [19:01] /var/log/packages/alsa-utils-1.0.18-i486-1:etc/rc.d/rc.alsa [19:01] thrice`: that's what I've been using. Just was messing with bash today. [19:01] aah [19:01] thrice`: http://imagebin.org/71595 [19:01] candinho: then re-install it... maybe you accedently deleted it [19:01] ok i will [19:01] when I access a webserver by its fully qualified domain name it gives me a different page than when accessing it through IP [19:01] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:02] because withou alsa utils i couldnt run alsaconf [19:02] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:02] or its dns records are screwed [19:02] that prompt is a monster :o [19:02] Guest818 (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [19:02] thrice`: at one time, I had zsh set, an alias, so that I could just use "extract" to extract anything, .gz, .bz2, etc. and then I lost that config. :/ [19:03] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:03] candinho: true [19:03] andarius: Are you saying "I've created a monster" ? ;) [19:03] yes, i am [19:03] fire|bird, I love it. for example, I use xmms2, and typing xmms2 completes all of the options the secondary options :) [19:04] macavity, thanks a lot for ur help [19:04] andarius: Well, just so you don't say "It's alive, ALIVE." I think it's alright. [19:04] john_dee (n=id@95-29-14-142.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [19:04] np.. next time, be a little more carefull about what you remove ;-) [19:04] the stuff in /etc/rc.d/ should be left alone, unless you know what you are doing :P [19:04] but i didnt remove rc.alsa im sure about that :( [19:04] only chmod +x or -x it if you need to turn it on or off [19:05] thrice`: yeah, zsh is great, I've used it for a long time, but just though I'd mess with bash a bit, BP{k} had given me some great links for bash scripting too that I've been looking through. [19:05] anyhow.. i need to go to bed now [19:05] fire|bird: i hope its not alive. there is no room for it to move on left or right in your terminal :P [19:05] it is 01:13 here [19:05] macavity, if i reinstall utils and it dont show up what can i do? [19:05] thrice`: I wish zsh, without having to add anything, would use the home and end keys, it's a pain without those to get to the beginning of the command sometimes. [19:05] candinho, are you on a very old version of slackware? [19:05] send pat some money [19:06] im using slackware 13 [19:06] andarius: hahaha, usually I have my terminals full screen, the monitor is 22" widescreen, so there's plenty of room. [19:06] ls -l /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa [19:06] copy/paste that.. [19:06] as long as you can live with it, no worries :) [19:06] andarius: indeed. :) [19:07] andarius: plus, it's a work in progress, by tonight, it'll probably have changed several times. [19:07] ls: cannot access /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa: No such file or directory [19:07] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-17-176.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [19:07] mine never changes except the username or hostname and color, and is short. [19:07] this is strange.. [19:08] candinho, ls /var/log/packages/alsa-* [19:08] thrice`: with zsh, have you ever messed with it's built-in themes? [19:08] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:09] fire|bird, hm, no, I don't think so; not even sure what you mean, like prompts? [19:09] anyhow.. i really need to go to bed.. i have a moster of a day tomorrow [19:09] gn all [19:09] MooKimchi (n=kimchi@61.43.249.3) joined ##slackware. [19:09] thrice`: yeah, it themes the prompt. [19:09] good night macavity [19:09] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [19:09] good night [19:09] "the prooooompt!" "the prompt is our master!" [19:10] thrice`: for example, add this to .zshrc: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/hpPuIv44.html "bart" is the name of the theme I am using, there are others. [19:11] thrice`: once that is in .zshrc, you can use prompt -p to get a preview of all the prompts. [19:11] aah, nice [19:11] and prompt -s to set one, and then change the prompt bart line to prompt theme_here to set it permanently. [19:12] thanks for help guys, im going sleep too [19:12] good night all [19:12] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:12] MooKimchi, ty man [19:12] good night candinho [19:12] see u guys tomorro [19:12] candinho, no problem [19:12] :P [19:12] candinho (n=candinho@200-207-56-94.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "life is beautifull" [19:13] millennia (n=millenni@c-76-19-53-234.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:13] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:13] macavity, are you still active? [19:14] macavity left [19:14] I tried all three of his ideas and ash still segfaulted [19:14] millennia: you just missed him by a couple minutes. :P [19:15] I still don't know how to get 13 to successfully install [19:15] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-67-191-58-46.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:16] Is 12.2 easier to install than 13? [19:17] millennia: no same thing [19:17] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:18] millennia: are you upgrading or is it a fresh install ? [19:18] a frsh install, disk wiped clean each time [19:18] millennia: weird [19:18] millennia: what's the problem ? [19:19] I boot from cd, select a kernel, install the packages, then it either locks up or ash segfaults resulting in no configuratuion [19:19] oh that's bad and outta my league [19:20] macavity said to turn down memory speed, turn on acpi and noieee1394, but that didn't help [19:21] have you tried running a memory test on the machine ? [19:21] yes [19:21] it passes [19:21] passes fine? [19:21] no errors [19:21] at what point does it segfault and is it always the same ? [19:22] always the same place, right after the packages have been installed and the configuration should start [19:22] did you verify the install media via md5sums ? [19:22] yes, all verified [19:23] after burning, before or both ? [19:23] before and after, used diff to verify [19:23] and md5 [19:23] the md5s on the burned disc are what count at this point [19:24] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [19:24] it doesn't always segfault, but if it doesn't then "rescan-scsi-bus" locks up the system [19:24] umm, so it is not always the same [19:25] always at the same place though [19:26] i would check a few things. if it relates to scsi then i would make sure my drives are fat and happy. no MBR write protects and so forth. if that does not help then a second media source perhaps. [19:27] disable bios virus protections and such as well [19:27] some get upest if you poke the MBR [19:27] that's always disabled because it doesn't work on scsi drives anyways [19:27] are you installing on a raid array ? [19:28] no, just a spare old 18gb uw sca drive [19:28] what controller ? [19:28] 2940uw dual channel [19:28] aah, I might know [19:29] the drive I'm installing to is on the first channel [19:29] are you trying to install 64-bit onto 32-bit hardware? [19:29] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [19:29] nope, 32 bit version [19:29] are you *sure* ? [19:29] run "uname -m" from the kernel [19:30] of the install Cd [19:30] yes, I spent hours downloading all 6 disks [19:30] wow, only need the first :) [19:31] how did it get as far as installing the packages if it was a 32/64 mismatch [19:31] if you were using a 32-bit source (like the usb installer), but had a 64-bit set [19:32] if that's the case, they need to have a talk with their official mirrors [19:32] the installer isn't simple, it just uses installpkg -root . if it segfaults entering the environment, that means something about the destination is f'ed up [19:32] millennia, are you suggesting you have 64-bit ? [19:32] no, but you were [19:33] I was asking you to check, no need to get aggressive [19:33] fine, I'll be back in a few minutes [19:33] I'll check [19:33] millennia (n=millenni@c-76-19-53-234.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:37] beatzz (i=1000@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] sup [19:37] anyone on? [19:37] ip-route (n=iproute@200.172.83.136) joined ##slackware. [19:37] hi [19:37] up ip-route [19:37] sup* [19:37] alkos333 (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:37] so I just put slackware 13 onto my laptop. [19:38] alkos333 (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] and for some reason [19:38] im shown no wireless networks in wicd [19:38] yet ifconfig -a shows a wlan0 card [19:38] as well as iwconfig [19:39] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-23-29.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:39] and as i was told, slackware 13 has the B43 driver [19:39] :/ [19:39] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:40] hiptobecubic, u around? [19:40] It shouldn't have the binary fw, though. [19:40] hm? [19:40] fire|bird, available? [19:40] dude im stuck [19:40] i decided to put 13 on my well working 12.2 laptop [19:41] wireless issues it seems? [19:41] well sorta [19:41] it shows my card w/ [19:41] ifconfig -a and iwconfig [19:41] beatzz, did you install b43 and whatever else you needed from sbo? [19:41] negitive, see thats the thing [19:41] i cant get that laptop on the network w/o wifi [19:41] which dosent work [19:41] altho this laptop dose [19:42] normaly i just need the B43 module / B43 firmware [19:42] to get the card working [19:42] Build it on the computer you are on and copy the packages over? [19:42] i figured w/ slackware 13 that would be unnessisary [19:42] so use sbopkg, download and build b43 driver / firmware [19:43] then copy the *.tgz file to other laptop? [19:43] millennia (n=millenni@c-76-19-53-234.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] beatzz, sure [19:43] beatzz, assuming you're both on the same $ARCH of course [19:43] both computers, i mean [19:43] back again. uname -m said "i686" [19:43] and using the same kernel for the module [19:44] :/ [19:44] If you aren't then you have to do some trick things like specify a kernel version and maybe have those sources available, not sure. Never had to do it [19:44] echo $ARCH on both laptops [19:44] ? [19:44] uname -m [19:44] $ARCH may or may not be set. uname -m will for sure [19:45] ok i686 [19:45] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [19:45] as far as the kernel [19:45] it should be the same [19:45] You don't need to crossbuild a thing. You build the firmware cutter, you run it, you copy over the cut firmware. Nice and easy. [19:45] is i686 the 32 bit version? [19:45] jkwood, isn't there a module you have to build? [19:45] jkwood, could you explain a little more? [19:46] beatzz, uname -r [19:46] zerosoul13 (n=angel@201.171.25.229.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) left irc: "Leaving." [19:46] 2.6.29.6-smp [19:46] The module should come with the kernel. [19:46] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "-" [19:47] okay both 'uname -r' and 'uname -m' both return the same values [19:47] 2.6.29.6-smp [19:47] and i686 [19:47] on both laptops [19:48] Try modprobe b43 or modprobe b43legacy. [19:48] on working laptop? [19:48] or one w/o wifi [19:48] Without wifi. [19:48] thrice? [19:49] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:49] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [19:49] millennia? [19:49] Anatol (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:49] uname -m said i686 [19:49] ok, that's good. [19:49] alkos333 (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:50] jkwood, 'modprobe b43 [19:50] jkwood, 'modprobe b43' returned succesfully* still now wifi [19:51] its not legacy, its never been. [19:51] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:52] Okay. Then all you should need is the firmware. [19:52] jkwood, when you say ", you run it, you copy over the cut firmware" what dose that imply? [19:52] i understand how to download and build the firmware via sbopkg [19:52] but the rest dosent sound so clear [19:53] impy (n=impy@88.147.64.235) left irc: [19:53] You should be able to either drop the firmware file in /lib/firmware, or install the firmware package if you go that route. [19:53] what dose that mean exactly? [19:53] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) joined ##slackware. [19:53] i see in sbopkg [19:54] B43-Firmware [19:54] and B43-fwcutter [19:54] you'l need both. check the README :) [19:54] it describes exactly what to do [19:54] README for...? [19:54] sbopkg? [19:55] actually, the README isn't great; one esc [19:55] I thought I wrote this up once, but it's possible I imagined that. [19:55] ok im going to build these 2 packages [19:55] I think you just install the firmware, and the cutter [19:55] Do the people who did the actual programming on the kernel/scsi/firewire/ash stuff ever come around here? [19:56] dose sbopkg put packages it buids in /tmp/sbopkg? [19:56] and then use the cutter: b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/blah/blah [19:56] The programming? Probably not. The packaging for Slackware? Yes. [19:56] millennia, slackware USES the linux kernel, but isn't in coordination with its development [19:56] How can you define a bridge build at boot time ( in rc.inet1.conf ?) ? [19:56] beatzz: sorry, was afk. [19:57] :( it seems my problem is beyond anyone I'm likely to be able to talk with [19:57] " b43-cutter -w /lib/modules wl_apsta.o" might work [19:57] fire|bird, np man, i think i may have come to an understanding of buiding a package and transfering it [19:58] thrice`: my laptop uses b43, so I have the firmware and fwcutter installed from SBo, I didn't have to do anything but install them and then set up my wifi in rc.inet1.conf and wpa_supplicant.conf [19:58] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [19:58] aah, ok [19:59] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: "leaving" [19:59] sorry, I don't own it, but was going on README's :) [20:00] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@pool-71-164-64-112.albyny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:04] How can you define a network bridge build at boot time ( in rc.inet1.conf ?) ? [20:04] Very carefully. [20:05] w4lk (n=w4lk@cpe-071-068-224-209.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:05] ok jkwood and hiptobecubic brb [20:05] we will see how this works [20:05] got both the pkg's on my flash drive [20:05] beatzz: good luck. :) [20:05] gana go installpkg them [20:05] :) [20:05] if it works u will see beatzz_ [20:05] Good luck. [20:06] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:08] eh. It's done carefully, okay I'll put it in rc.local... [20:08] Or qemu-ifup ifdown preferably... [20:08] Thanks. [20:09] okay it worked! [20:09] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "Molon Labe" [20:10] RaJiL (n=RaJIl@217.217.95.23.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Saliendo" [20:10] I am teh win. [20:10] ;) [20:10] beatzz_ (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] booyah! [20:11] jkwood > * [20:11] beatzz_: You haz ze wifi working? [20:11] Everyone thinks I've been hiding or stuck in WoW for months. In actuality, I've been biding time until my ratio of win to epic fail was sufficient to actually answer a question. [20:12] fire|bird, yes, upgradeing to -current [20:12] beatzz: excellent, great to hear. :) [20:15] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:15] Hm, how would I go about starting X from startup, but bypassing a login manager? I.e. do the same as startx (with my chosen xinitrc) automatically at startup. [20:15] Putting startx in /etc/rc.d/rc.4 messes things up, seems to not have all paths setup correctly. [20:16] Bigshot_ (n=BIGSHOT@CPE002129abc864-CM001ac35cd4d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:16] i want to compile hid-ntrig.ko module without recompiling the whole kernel [20:17] i am trying this command gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -O6 -c module.c [20:17] no makefile to make? [20:18] nope just the c code [20:18] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:18] http://lii-enac.fr/en/projects/shareit/ntrig.tar.gz [20:18] gana log off of irc to increase bandwidth [20:18] peace hommies [20:18] thanks for the help....again... [20:19] :D [20:19] next time u all see me [20:19] i will be 100% CLI [20:19] no more GUI for me [20:19] except to watch pr0n [20:19] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) joined ##slackware. [20:19] ;) [20:19] I can't believe people still think that's cool. [20:19] beatzz_ (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "leaving" [20:20] guis are good for some other things [20:20] Like running and managing more than one terminal. [20:20] guis are good for everything [20:22] if I ever get a successful install I was planning on xfce :) [20:23] Except keeping the less technically inclined out of your computer. [20:23] I dunno, even my KDE setup is daunting enough. [20:23] paissad_ (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:23] Since it hides the taskbar and kicker and doesn't have any links to filemanagers, etc. [20:24] afterstep is good at keeping out the less technically inclined, I guess [20:25] egregor (n=ieie@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:25] twm is better [20:25] yeah :) [20:25] actually [20:25] Doesn't only apply to the less technically inclined :D [20:25] indeed. that's what I was going to say [20:26] and that's way I've always heard it should be [20:26] where can i get linux/module.h and linux/hid.h? [20:26] fef (n=feyner@cpe-173-168-249-106.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:26] kernel-headers [20:26] linux/device.h and linux/module/h [20:26] ah damned tooth pain [20:26] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:27] hello FEF [20:27] eh [20:27] lol [20:28] i have a virus [20:28] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl9-251-243.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [20:28] There are FEF kinds of people in the world: Those who understand hexadecimal, and me. [20:29] WOW [20:29] I was thinking fef was 4079? [20:29] do u play it [20:29] (not (understand? 'scheme self)) [20:29] Yep. [20:29] i hear this os is shit [20:29] opinion? [20:29] beatzz (i=1000@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:30] Slackware? No. [20:30] I actually play WoW on it. [20:30] o boy [20:30] whats the best version [20:30] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:30] 1.0 [20:30] bye fef [20:30] the one not installed [20:30] someone is going to get ddosed [20:30] OHOH [20:30] I WENT THERE [20:30] Wow, you're funny. [20:30] cant tell jokes in this channel [20:30] Funny looking. [20:30] OHOH [20:30] I WENT THERE [20:30] omg, n1 [20:30] Bigshot_ (n=BIGSHOT@CPE002129abc864-CM001ac35cd4d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [20:31] OMG [20:31] got em! [20:31] kk i have a joke [20:31] are you ready [20:31] no [20:31] no [20:31] Once upon a time, there was a troll named fef. [20:31] hey hitest, how's it going? [20:31] actually havent trolld yet [20:31] millennia (n=millenni@c-76-19-53-234.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:31] He lived under a bridge, but he got lonely because all the goats on rob0's farm were kept locked up. [20:32] OOHOHOH [20:32] WENT THERE [20:32] hiya fire|bird, it goes well, ty;) how's it going with you/ [20:32] ? [20:32] Anatol (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:32] So, he came to ##slackware where he got owned by the local insane asylum representative, jkwood. [20:32] hitest: excellent, thanks. I'm just messing with google wave, got the invite today. :) [20:32] Anatol (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:32] And by owned, I mean as confused as jkwood always is. [20:32] right [20:32] fire|bird: cool. [20:33] jkwood, that was good [20:33] and went wewewewe all the way home. [20:33] hitest: I had signed up as a tester earlier this year, just got the invite today. :P [20:33] nice [20:33] i have not yet begun to ramble. [20:33] so i want to install gnome on slackware [20:33] and i have a suggestion [20:34] how do i install packages on slackwarez [20:34] apt-get, or yum, it's up to you [20:34] what if i want to use rpm [20:35] you can use rpm too [20:35] what if my yum repo is broke [20:35] then switch to apt [20:35] what if apt doesnt have it [20:35] and yum does [20:35] Action: hitest is heading out bbl [20:35] then the only option left is using .exe files [20:35] YES [20:35] later hitest, take care. [20:35] BUT THEY HAVE VIRUS'S! [20:36] can i use wine in slackware [20:36] I do. [20:36] later fire|bird, see you in a bit [20:36] MooKimchi (n=kimchi@61.43.249.3) left irc: "Leaving" [20:36] why not just use windows [20:36] Not the bottled kind, mind you, though to listen to me you might think so. [20:36] Because Windows allows me to run lots more viruses. [20:36] but microsoft said its safe [20:36] Also, WoW actually gives better performance and stability under Wine on Linux. [20:37] now your trolling [20:37] diven (n=diven@72.183.237.80) joined ##slackware. [20:37] fef, seriously, just leave if you're going to be a moron [20:37] i have serious questions [20:37] The WoW cocmment, or the Virus comment? [20:37] if you have legitimate slackware questions, we can help out [20:37] im considering installing slackware 13.3 [20:37] and u guys are no help [20:37] there is no slackware 13.3 [20:38] i meant .0 [20:38] typo [20:38] Omnomnom typo [20:38] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:38] kk i do have a serious question [20:38] Yes? [20:38] then ask [20:38] whos community is bigger [20:38] slackware of ubantu [20:39] or* [20:39] typo again [20:39] I like your spelling :) [20:39] :) [20:39] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-192-12.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:39] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [20:39] ubuntu ? [20:39] no ubantu [20:39] ubuntu has the most users of any distro [20:39] that terrible os in the other channel [20:39] comes packed with more processes than a computer from best buy [20:39] ubuntu is not terrible, it just has another audience [20:40] although it could be better [20:40] Kubuntu, however, presents pretty much the worst KDE desktop ever. [20:40] i agree [20:40] Edubuntu is where its at [20:40] what is ubantu [20:40] Nick change: alisonken1hom2 -> alisonken1home [20:40] you dont know [20:40] ? [20:41] I know of ubuntu but not ubantu [20:41] ubantu, its the os they claim should be run on a desktop [20:41] Ubantu: Linux for irc moderators. [20:42] glad you got it!! [20:42] why kde and not gnome? [20:42] KDE is quite a bit easier to package cohesively. [20:43] because Pat prefers it :> [20:43] That also. [20:43] but gnomes are cute [20:43] BAH, GUI is for sissies [20:43] ok - just woke up so brain not linking yet [20:43] just use linx to web browse [20:43] I tried to package Evolution for Slax once. I ended up with a fully-functional Gnome desktop, thanks to something we like to call "dependency hell." [20:43] i use linx to play modern warfare 2 [20:44] you do this in ubantu? [20:44] rhel actually [20:44] they released a rpm for it [20:45] cost me 400$ [20:45] nice, Mister Money bags. [20:45] when will slackware come installed on netbooks [20:46] As soon as I start my evil empire. [20:46] do it nao [20:47] Okay. [20:47] let me install this and i will have lots of questions [20:47] fef slackware does actually come pre installed on some laptops [20:47] yea and my bats come pre shaved as well [20:47] i wish you would shave your period face [20:48] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) joined ##slackware. [20:48] i wish you would never come to work again [20:48] you take up space [20:48] i wish you would get aids from a tranny and die in a car fire why blowing a chicken [20:49] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166022016.dsl.hol.gr) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [20:49] i wish your mom would of drank alcohol and took meth while pregnant with u [20:49] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:49] seriously, quit being a fucking moron, or simply leave [20:49] sounds like ##slackofftopic to me [20:49] i wish your mom would aboart you today [20:49] haha [20:50] In this channel: Cubicle warfare, on teh interwebz for your viewing pleasure [20:50] i wish jeff would stop eating food [20:50] maybe hed lose weight [20:50] i really do wish he would catch aids, so he would not die of fatness [20:50] lol [20:50] i really wish thrice` took off his serious cap and shut up [20:51] serious cap, just made that up. i like it [20:52] You could win a Nobel peace prize for that. [20:52] u can add it in the next version of slackware [20:53] we can throw it on the logo!! [20:53] had to be red though, with a superman S [20:53] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-90-105.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [20:53] hey fef, i'm the only one hittin thrice`'s mom, stop. [20:54] indeed [20:54] did u atleast do it with your serious cap on backwords [20:54] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:54] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:54] it states in the Slackbook, you can not wear Serious Cap backwords [20:55] dissociative (n=5-03@200.31.21.186) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:55] lotec, how about a slit tilt, flat bill and a sticker on it still [20:55] slight* [20:56] a slit? i thought oyu were scared of those [20:56] only the hairy wrinkly ones [20:56] :( [20:56] does anyone chat in this channel [20:57] your scared of butt holes? i thought you liked that [20:57] i get more entertainment watching my balls shrink from steroids [20:57] I'm thinking you do. [20:57] do you need directx in slackware? [20:58] Highly doubtful. [20:58] werdan7 (n=w7@freenode/staff/wikimedia.werdan7) joined ##slackware. [20:58] directX is pretty much MS only [20:58] every OS needs direct X :) [20:58] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) joined ##slackware. [20:59] ive almost got this fully installed, whats with the gecko looking fella for a logo [21:00] SuSE? [21:00] w4lk (n=w4lk@cpe-071-068-224-209.sc.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:00] slackware [21:00] tazmanian devil - look at the kernel logs for that kernel release [21:00] hi. does anyone tried chromeoslinux? -- http://sites.google.com/site/chromeoslinux/download [21:01] powtrix, why would you come in slackware and ask that? [21:01] just testing it [21:01] why not? [21:01] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-90-105.epm.net.co) left irc: "leaving" [21:01] alkos333 (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:01] troll night [21:01] fef: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux <-- wikipedia article on Tux, with a note about Tuz [21:02] lotec, troll could be you not me... [21:02] powtrix, using more than one OS is unheard of here [21:02] powtrix is no troll. He's a regular. [21:02] ok, ill try it in qemu myself [21:03] powtrix, GOS is for phones i thought [21:04] alisonken1home, why would i read that [21:04] lotec, i think they release desktop version next week? [21:04] fef: Reading is good for you. [21:04] lotec, or was it this week i dunno [21:04] you asked about the gecko looking fellow - and the only one I can think of is the kernel boot image [21:04] alisonken1home, i was trolling [21:05] the beta is out now. i forgot they were making a Desktop OS [21:06] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: [21:06] powtrix, i stand corrected sorry [21:06] np [21:06] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) left irc: "Leaving" [21:06] powtrix, if you get it working let me know, ill have to install that in VMware [21:07] lotec, does VMware work in slackware [21:07] jesus christ shut the fuck up already fef [21:07] It used to. I've been using VirtualBox much more recently. [21:08] fef, no you have to use parallels in slack, but you can only run a 2mb os on parallels [21:08] jeev, was a serious question. go listen in on another conversation or are you upset this convo doesnt include you [21:08] lotec: Is that a fat joke? [21:08] jeev, if I ever want to discuss complete idiots ill add u to the convo ok? [21:08] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:09] jkwood, could be i guess [21:09] you can only install minix in vmware on slack [21:09] meh [21:10] id ask a question about virtualbox but asshurt jeev's will cry [21:10] hey fef, found your laptop http://static.arstechnica.com/Hardware/OLPC_XO_Laptop.2.jpg [21:10] omg i want one [21:10] in pink [21:10] i am sure if you ask your boyfriend he will get you one [21:11] it looks like its straight out of transformers, even has wings [21:11] jeev, will u buy it for me? [21:12] i will buy you my foot up your rectum [21:12] jeev, oh ya baby, then what? [21:14] even jeev thinks you're a tool [21:15] luckily for me [21:15] i dont give a fuck what either of you think [21:16] are you upset i make your channel window blink because I actually talk [21:16] be civil pleas [21:16] no one else seems to have found the keyboard [21:17] fef, you will find out that people that use slackware control there computer with there mind, so we do not revert to old style Keyboards [21:17] Anatol (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:17] lotec, you have to control it with your mind, because its an inoperable pos os [21:18] complete with gecko logo [21:19] Anatol (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:22] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:22] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:24] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [21:24] man.. i hate when i cant sleep :-/ [21:24] hey macavity [21:25] fire|bird: could you per chance email me some sleeping pills? [21:25] ... or do you think the electronic transfer would wake them up? [21:25] macavity, i dont have sleeping pills but i got some muscle relaxers that will knock you on your ass [21:25] otho (n=otho@unaffiliated/otho) joined ##slackware. [21:26] macavity: I think the transfer would wake them up, and by the time they reached you, they'd be useless. [21:26] ibubrophene? [21:26] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [21:26] otho (n=otho@unaffiliated/otho) left irc: Client Quit [21:26] use a hammer, knock yourself out :P [21:26] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [21:26] fire|bird: well obviously.. sleeping pills that are awake are no good :P [21:26] i dont think you can transport sleeping pills across state lines, that is bootleggin [21:27] macavity: lol, indeed. [21:27] lotec: this would be across the ocean too, he's in Denmark. [21:27] lotec: i live on Mars, so it would just be straight up [21:27] o yea, so going to jail for that [21:28] wtf is nyRedneck at? [21:28] the name implies that he is in NY [21:28] Action: lotec walked right into that [21:29] :P [21:29] Don't give me that. We can protect you, you just have to tell us the truth: Did he hit you? [21:29] no.. but i sure as hell hit him? [21:31] wuut google logo [21:31] Yep. [21:33] awesome [21:33] so, now Pepsi will set up a plant on the moon pretty soon [21:34] and, to not be out done, Coca-Cola will as well, shortly thereafter. [21:34] it tastes better anyway [21:34] lol [21:35] good evening everyone [21:35] evening Scuzz [21:35] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-141-152-157-54.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] heya MLanden, how are you? [21:35] heya,slackers [21:36] alkos333 (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:36] heya,fire|bird...doin' great thanks ....yourself? [21:36] MLanden: excellent, thank you. :) [21:37] MLanden: good evening [21:38] Evenin',lotec [21:38] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [21:39] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [21:39] jesus , the past conversation in here is worth clearing the screen [21:39] hmmm darn i missed it [21:40] Action: MLanden checks the logs to see if it was THAT bad....:P [21:40] no you didnt [21:40] MLanden: yes, it was. [21:40] deco: you didn't miss a thing, really. [21:40] fire|bird: :/ [21:40] don't give me that face. [21:40] lol [21:40] fire|bird: :D [21:40] fire|bird: :( [21:41] fire|bird: :P [21:41] fire|bird: :o [21:41] that was almost a flood [21:41] pic your fiav [21:41] fav* [21:41] pick* [21:41] grrrr [21:41] Action: chopp is now confused. He thought fef was deco's brother. [21:41] ^_^ [21:42] chopp: The test hasn't come back, but it's highly likely. [21:42] I see what y'all are are talkin' 'bout...X_X [21:42] deco: don't take it personal now, I'm just giving you a hard time. :P [21:43] chopp: fef is a gay pirate [21:43] lotec: yeah I was thinking almost that myself. [21:44] Action: MLanden rather have hardware than hard time...:P [21:44] not me [21:44] fef, he said hardware, that does not mean weiners [21:44] lol [21:45] yawn [21:45] Action: chopp goes back to his openvpn setup. [21:45] such a difficult setup [21:46] blow me. [21:46] lol.....lotec, I said hardware not software...:P [21:46] take a whole 2min to setup, thats assuming ur on 56k [21:46] chopp: be carefull if he gets your address you are FSCKed :D [21:46] lotec: no, just blowed. :o [21:46] chopp: server or client? [21:47] hey alisonken1home, how are you? [21:47] ewwwww. Well fwiw, he'll look fairly funny trying that with a broken neck. [21:47] you fire|bird [21:47] tired - long week [21:47] and you? [21:47] alisonken1home: doing excellent, thanks. :) [21:47] alisonken1home: both actually. :) [21:47] alisonken1home: at least it's the weekend. :) [21:47] was it long because u were installing openvpn [21:47] chopp: just make it eaasier to get it, o forget it that would of been a very dirty joke [21:48] well, I'm running openvpn client to connect to the office [21:48] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-238-5.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:48] haven't setup the server side yet, though. another guy at the office set that up [21:48] fire|bird: weekend indeed [21:49] alisonken1home: yeah I've never played with client or server before. I figure it's time. [21:49] great.. yet another outstanding flash exploit in the wild [21:50] macavity?????? [21:50] http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/11/12/2337236/Flash-Vulnerability-Found-Adobe-Says-No-Fix-Forthcoming [21:51] awsine [21:51] awsome [21:52] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-141-65.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] escaflown (n=elom@24.65.83.244) joined ##slackware. [21:54] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-141-65.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:57] fire|bird: still messin' with gnome? [21:58] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:00] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:01] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:03] MLanden: no, back to xfce. :) [22:04] fire|bird: ok [22:05] omg this is cool , xbox 360 without any controllers, say goddbye to the Wii http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhd5xVkxnYg&feature=player_embedded# [22:06] rhoyerboat (i=1000@98.245.149.46) joined ##slackware. [22:07] slackie (n=x@87.196.227.78) joined ##slackware. [22:10] Anatol (n=Anatol@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:11] habaneros (n=habanero@97.102.252.147) joined ##slackware. [22:12] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:13] Scuzz: if that thing is comming out of microsoft it will work as well as it does in the video about 2035 [22:13] ahha yeah probably [22:14] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:15] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [22:15] and that video was obviously orchestrated [22:17] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) left irc: "Leaving" [22:18] anyhow.. back to trying to sleep [22:18] ithought fire|bird loaned you a hammer [22:18] i am not one for brute forcing :P [22:18] ta ta [22:18] Action: fire|bird hands macavity a sledgehammer. [22:18] see ya macavity [22:19] ciao ciao [22:19] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "zZzZzZzZz" [22:20] ok guys have a good night, i am out [22:20] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "And Punt" [22:20] dchmelik (n=d@74.209.11.2) joined ##slackware. [22:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [22:24] bbiab [22:24] jeagoss (i=jef@173.172.197.134) joined ##slackware. [22:24] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-141-152-157-54.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:38] al-_ (n=al@pool-72-65-19-84.bflony.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] firedix (n=firedix@host26.201-252-182.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:41] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:42] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. 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[22:56] sorry have some small iiiiinput problems driverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr raltated [22:56] brb [22:56] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:58] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:58] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:59] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [23:01] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:02] yeah danc3 im back have trouble with my tv tuner if i dont have stable drivers some kernels make my input unuasable had to reboot [23:02] its ok i know how to fix that but its on a long list [23:02] im aware of rc.local and that's what i will end up doing if i dont find somthing better [23:02] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:03] cause rc.local runs close to last it will setup my network after other services that require it [23:03] but i think i can work around it i was looking for somthing more elegant [23:03] rhoyerboat (i=1000@98.245.149.46) left irc: "Leaving" [23:05] oobe: well, you might want to hack rc.S or rc.M, but it's not recommended [23:05] ok thanks [23:05] i just relised i have a few other things to do first before i start messing with this [23:12] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] So in order to have the daylight savings adjust automatically, I need to have the hardware clock in UTC and the system time set to the local timezone? [23:18] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [23:19] does slackware support ntp [23:19] of course [23:19] that just reminded me i need to set that up [23:19] yes [23:19] hey twolf [23:19] hey fire|bird [23:19] oobe: /etc/rc.d/rc.ntpd [23:20] oobe: Yes, it does, but does it make sense to do that if this is a laptop and it isn't always connected [23:21] fire|bird, i have my local set correct during install but chose UTC so now all i to do is chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.ntpd? [23:21] oobe: If you want it to automatically sync the time, yes. [23:21] alkos333, yes it does make sense it has a constant conenction [23:21] fire|bird, cool [23:21] oobe: you might have a look in /etc/ntp.conf to make sure it is using servers near you [23:22] i put in a few custom scripts of mine into /etc/rc.d/rc.* and they didnt work so wasnt sure if all i needed was chmod +x [23:22] oobe: Well, that's just it - it doesn't. [23:22] oobe: I believe oobe is speaking of his own laptop. ;) [23:22] err, alkos333 ^^^ [23:24] yea i know what you mean [23:24] fire|bird: ? [23:24] a lot of advice i receive is based on only one perspective [23:25] Alright, so basically it's alright to still run ntpd even though my lappie doesn't obviously have a constant net connection [23:26] alkos333, yes cause it will keep the sime time from when it was last connected [23:26] alkos333: that is up to you. Some prefer to have it run so the time stays in sync, others, like myself, update the clock manually. [23:26] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:26] fire|bird: You are talking daylight savings, right? [23:26] I update manually too, fire|bird [23:28] alkos333: I'm just speaking in general. The clock sometimes can lose, or gain, time over time. If ntpd is executable, then it will keep the clock in sync with time servers. [23:28] hitest: yeah, it's just one less process running. :P one line command and it's back in sync. ;) [23:30] yep [23:30] fire|bird: Alright, so if i turn the ntp on, it will update the system time, not the hardware time [23:31] personally I've never understood the need to keep my system's clock within a microsecond of some "master" clock. I don't give a shit if it's a few seconds (or minutes) off. [23:31] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:31] danc3: True, I've never used ntp myself. [23:31] danc3: It's more prominent for large networks for the rest of the clients to sync with. [23:32] yeah, I suppose [23:32] for a home system, it's a waste of cpu cycles [23:32] danc3: there's a time server, it syncs with one of the ntp server and the rest of the machines sync with it. Universities use that all the time. [23:32] nod [23:33] Alright, so here's what I'm trying to straighten out. [23:34] My understanding is that when the hwclock is set to UTC (in England) and then the system time is set to the localtime zone, that should take care of the daylight savings, should it not? [23:37] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:37] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [23:38] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:39] sadsfae (n=sadsfae@funcamp.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:41] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" 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[23:56] deco: no, slept in my bed, but i have no apple juice left and more beer in my fridge than i started with [23:56] spook: The spirits beyond the grave say: probably :) [23:56] spook: oh, [23:56] spook: apple juice is good [23:56] that is, i started with 0, and now have 2. [23:56] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [23:56] lol [23:57] anyone got any tips for my problems> [23:57] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:57] siimo: ifconfig -a [23:58] spook: it does show an eth1 with -a [23:59] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [23:59] siimo: edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf to your liking then /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 eth1 [23:59] i think [23:59] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-122-161.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:59] two secs while i double check [00:00] --- Sat Nov 14 2009