[00:00] slackware is to hard [00:00] for me [00:00] lol [00:00] i wish that would stop happening and i find slackware extremely easy to use [00:00] mudsplatter: Slackware does NOT have a GUI installer ... [00:00] ok [00:00] mingdao: why did you say i was smoking crack when i talked about bans? it's true. [00:00] i wont install it [00:00] mudsplatter: Slackware does NOT ask you to setup a user account by default. [00:00] any way jsut leave then mudsplatter [00:01] user acount? [00:01] i though u have to log in as roo [00:01] toor [00:01] root [00:01] mudsplatter: Don't ... you'd get addicted and need professional help like all of us. ;) [00:01] slackware has a curses installation, which is basically a loser GUI [00:01] unless you are seriosly interested in trying slackware in which case jsut install it [00:01] MrJackson (n=MrJackso@173.86.41.3) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [00:01] mudsplatter: You have to READ a whole lot of documentation ... it's NO FUN! [00:01] MrJackson (n=MrJackso@173.86.54.47) joined ##slackware. [00:01] sshhh ... he's back [00:01] man pages [00:01] ? [00:02] yes [00:02] MrJackson: i love you [00:02] and /usr/doc/ .... [00:02] i dint know it has its own folder [00:02] mudsplatter: It is SO HARD to learn Slackware. Trust me, you have better things to do with your time. [00:02] slackware has its own folder? [00:02] the /doc [00:02] mudsplatter: There are no folders in *nix ... only directories. [00:02] shhh... hacker [00:02] mudsplatter: All ur folders are belong to Mickey#oft. [00:03] is that a command? [00:03] or Mickey$oft even [00:03] chown toastytoast mudsplatter -R [00:03] haha ha now i own you [00:03] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:03] mudsplatter: you get all commands on Slackware by logging into a terminal as root and pressing the tab key. [00:03] o [00:03] it lets u login as root? [00:03] can you guys test what 'shutdown -h now' does, i heard it gives you root. [00:03] u dont have to sudo in to it? [00:04] toastytoast: more like: su -c "rm -rf mudsplatter" ;) [00:04] whiten0ise: It does, go ahead and do it! [00:04] but i'm running windows XP [00:04] me too [00:04] im on vista [00:04] ;) [00:04] find / -name mudsplatter exec shred -n 100 -u -z {}/ [00:04] vista is best. [00:04] you're so kewl [00:04] i run ubuntu on top [00:04] ubuntu likes being on top [00:04] ubuntu doesnt have shred [00:04] i have to use wipe [00:04] find / -name whiten0ise exec shred -n 100 -u -z {}/ * [00:04] use paper [00:05] not your hand [00:05] \o/ [00:05] toastytoast: shutdown -h now [00:05] what does that command do [00:05] gives you root [00:05] pretty sure ubuntu does have shred i did use ubunut a while ago and i'm pretty sure i used shred [00:05] does it work in ubuntu? [00:05] yes, i think so [00:06] ill try to use slack ware tommow [00:06] later guys [00:06] fire|bird, i'm closer to what i was doing [00:06] mudsplatter (n=mudsplat@unaffiliated/mudsplatter) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:06] C:\Documents and Settings\mingdao> shutdown -h now [00:06] skirts up [00:06] w00t [00:07] s/skirts/kilt [00:07] :D [00:07] yah [00:07] kilts aren't until Win7 iirc [00:07] C:\Documents and Settings\mingdao> shutdown -s -f -t 0 [00:07] type "sl" [00:07] i got FvwmButtons vertical, wih xclock, winlist, and pager swallowed in it [00:08] cool [00:08] fire|bird, wanna see screenshot? [00:08] nyRednek: sure [00:08] i love you :) [00:08] will i get a cupcake? [00:08] winter: i know :) [00:09] \o/ [00:09] \o/ [00:09] io love you both ;) [00:10] vote toasty for prez 2012 d(^.^)b (i'll give you cookies) [00:10] haha [00:10] i promise [00:10] toastytoast: Can we get that in writing? :P [00:11] shure [00:11] fire|bird, http://imagebin.org/67596 [00:11] i think something along the lines of sed -e 's/id:4/id:6/ [00:11] altho even ifg i got majority of votes i couldn't legaly become prez [00:11] I finally got around to installing Slack13 and I'm trying to get used to KDE4 but I got a few questions.. First.. How the hell do I change the clock applet to display old fashion 1-12am/pm rather than military time!? :) [00:11] i'm not old enough [00:11] gah.. well anyhoot that would have been better. [00:11] i think yall get my point :P [00:11] Action: toastytoast is 19 and you need to be 36 [00:11] nyRednek: That looks nice. [00:11] cleans up the desktop a bit. [00:11] Action: agentc0re is not a sed expert [00:11] fire|bird, i'm having fun [00:12] yeah, talk is still centered [00:12] nyRednek: nice BG. [00:12] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@198.82.16.162) left irc: "Leaving." [00:12] Second.. My touchpad doesn't seem to have the problem where taps are clicks but the scroll area doesn't work it just moves the mouse cusor up and down. Where do I change the mouse wheel action.. I can't locate it in mouse settings.. [00:12] i want that buttons module up in upper left corner [00:12] agentc0re, thanks [00:13] agentc0re, it's a jpeg from the afterstep package [00:14] Wescotte, is this slack 13 or earlier? [00:14] nyRednek: 13 [00:14] Wescotte, you gotta specify it in /etc/hal [00:14] Wescotte: go to system setting then regional & language [00:15] Wescotte: you will be able to change the time formate there [00:15] korg815 (n=korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [00:15] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [00:15] system settings* [00:15] Wescotte, for the mouse wheel, you must specify it via hal [00:16] Wescotte: for the time, KDE menu ---> System Settings ---> Regional and Language ---> Time & Date ---> change the HH to pH [00:17] fire|bird: ah just changed my location and it took care of all that [00:17] thanks guys [00:17] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] spider1010 (n=spider10@98.179.13.1) joined ##slackware. [00:17] Wescotte: yeah, that'll do it too. :) [00:18] hmm /etc/hal seems to be empty.. [00:18] KDE4 is going to take some getting used to :) [00:18] nah [00:18] not sure I like the new "start button" [00:18] Action: Motoko-chan really likes KDE4 [00:19] You can switch to the classic menu, you know. [00:19] Motoko-chan: yeah I figured you could but i'm gonna try the new stuff for a week or so until it drives me insane or I get used to it [00:19] fire|bird, http://pastebin.com/m2ef95648 is my .fvwm2rc you can diff it from the default for slack to see what i changed [00:20] cool, thanks. [00:20] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [00:20] for example, i hate xterms with white bg [00:21] and xfm is no longer part of slack afaik [00:21] I like the new menu, actually. [00:21] Quick to search [00:21] nyRednek: What specifically should I look for in /etc/hal? Only thing there is fdi/ and it's subdirs are all empty [00:21] Motoko-chan: In kde4, I switched the menu to the Lancelot one. [00:21] Naraku (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [00:21] you copy and edit an fdi from /usr/share/hal/(something) [00:22] let me look [00:22] Wescotte: when i was gothic http://slackwaregallery.org/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=0 [00:22] fatalnix1995 (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:22] kamelot is a good band [00:22] toastytoast: my fav gothic power metal band [00:23] no one has posted a newer pic in the post your mug section than mine [00:24] nightwish is a pretty good band too btw [00:24] I'm in the process of giong to the light side http://omploader.org/vMmo3MQ [00:24] going* [00:24] Wescotte, cp /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/11-x11-synaptics.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy and edit it to fit your touchpad [00:25] i don't differentiat between light and dark [00:25] toastytoast: i do [00:25] nyRednek: thanks [00:25] i listen to Kamelot right along with The beach boys [00:25] deco, light/dark or good/evil are relative terms [00:26] nyRednek: i have my own belives... [00:26] toastytoast: there'd be a band title: The Beach Boys of Kamelot [00:26] :P [00:26] .... [00:26] .. [00:26] . [00:26] Action: deco goes back to read [00:26] lol [00:26] Action: Wescotte needs to learn to use Hal one of these days [00:26] fire|bird, serial killas of palm beach... [00:27] i jsut realized i have two unused terminals open on workspace 1 [00:27] i think its becoem a habbit [00:28] i useually have 4 terminals open in workspace one and then switch workspaces to do things [00:28] Wescotte, i'm still learning [00:28] does that make me crazy? [00:28] yes [00:28] damn [00:29] Wescotte, when you finish editing, you must kill x, then run /etc/rc.d/rc.hald restart [00:29] toastytoast: yes, you are crazy. ;) [00:29] Wescotte, then you test [00:29] Action: deco doesn't really use workspaces [00:29] prolly am after all i did take this pic of myslef http://slackwaregallery.org/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=0 [00:29] nyRednek: thanks again [00:29] yes those are all slackware 13 cds/dvds [00:30] when i'm trying to escape a little scrutiny, i'll put stuff on all 6 virtual desktops, and make sure no one sees what i'm really up to [00:30] and run youtube videos to divert attention to that [00:31] neonflux (n=neonflux@98.97.244.102) joined ##slackware. [00:32] well atm i'm running moc on workspace 11 ff on ws 3 to terminals and gvim on workspace 2 and to terminals for irss and two empty terminal on ws 1 [00:32] toastytoast: right guard, old spice, elite group MB, rubik's cube... [00:32] and a 10mb switch [00:33] archiebenedict: stop swearing.. :o [00:33] aznd the complete WOT series [00:33] Wescotte, if it helps any, you're welcome [00:34] Action: toastytoast wishees they were signe dby rj but they aren't :( [00:34] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.174) joined ##slackware. [00:35] nyRednek: yup that helps alot thanks [00:35] you can actually see both switch btw they are baystack 303s [00:35] Wescotte, cool...you're welcome [00:36] Wescotte, i had to figure out enough hal to go multilanguage with this kb [00:36] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:36] rhys (n=rhys@c-67-176-142-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:37] Action: nyRednek spins up Live-"I Walk the Line" [00:39] arfon (n=arfon@adsl-75-34-102-211.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:39] Quick Question: When you plug in a USB to serial cable, what /dev device does it usually show up as? [00:40] /dev/ttyUSB(some number) [00:40] Thanks Red [00:40] arfon, i'm just glad to be useful here for once [00:41] :) [00:41] arfon (n=arfon@adsl-75-34-102-211.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:41] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [00:42] how do you add that stuff to your nick instead of unaffiliated [00:42] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:42] hmm anyone seen this message before? "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" [00:43] slackware_bob (n=bobby@76.249.229.126) left irc: "leaving" [00:43] Wescotte: change the ARCH variable [00:43] nyRednek: asking freenode for a specific cloak. [00:43] Wescotte, you running multilib? [00:43] sahko: not sure how to do that.. [00:43] nyRednek: Not sure what that is.. [00:44] Wescotte, then probably not...do what sahko said [00:44] nyRednek: in the slackbuild? or there is a global ARCH variable? [00:44] Wescotte, in the slackbuild [00:44] Wescotte: you are using a SlackBuild in order to build and install some application i guess. exec vi foo.SlackBuild and change the ARCH in the script [00:45] i assume its i486 while you need x86_64 [00:45] or something like that [00:45] ah okay thanks [00:46] who here will buy me a slackware shirt ? [00:46] deco, i don't even have a slackware shirt for me [00:46] barely got the hat [00:46] nyRednek: :( [00:46] ok who will buy nyRednek and me a slackware shirt ? [00:47] deco, LOL [00:47] kinda odd you can't build i486 binaries when running a x86_64 kernel.. or maybe not. I dunno :) [00:47] Wescotte, if you install alien's multilib stuff, you can [00:47] nyRednek: size ? , to let them know [00:47] nyRednek, xxl [00:47] i'm a big guy [00:47] nyRednek: wow same size as me lol nice [00:48] thrice`: Alright, I've been messing with Fedora now, the installer doesn't have jfs support, and it appears that boot option does nothing, so maybe they have, as distrowatch seems to show, removed jfs support all together. [00:48] 2 xxl slackware shirts please :) [00:48] nyRednek: Ah.. [00:48] nyRednek: http://freenode.net/pdpc_donations.shtml and http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml [00:48] Wescotte, www.slackware.com/~alien [00:49] fire|bird: i think you can use jfs in fedora http://www.fedorafaq.org/#reiserjfs [00:49] How can I pass the x86_64 to the script w/o having to modify each one? [00:49] deco: Just DCC me your credit card info and I'll buy you a matching shirt and hat. You can come here anytime after Jan 1 to pick them up. [00:50] is there a ./myscript ARCH=x86_64 type thing? [00:50] sahko: yeah, that's the option I tried, it doesn't do anything at all. [00:50] Wescotte: http://slackbuilds.org/faq/#x86_64 [00:50] mingdao: it's empty hence me asking for me :( [00:50] one* [00:50] for one* [00:50] sahko: It seems as though they've removed *any* jfs support [00:50] empty? what's empty? [00:50] Wescotte, pass the command ARCH=x86_64 ./foo.slackbuild [00:50] at least the installer. [00:50] mingdao: bank account [00:50] deco: I can fill your empty credit card in no time. [00:50] ah I had it backwards.. thanks agian [00:50] No need for a bank account. [00:50] mingdao: \o/ [00:51] fire|bird: corporate EVIL! [00:51] lol [00:51] sahko: It had support up until 10 it looks like. [00:51] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@n146s183.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:51] sahko: ah good info on that link thanks [00:51] The RedHat company has a long track record of not being able to support their products. ;) [00:51] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.174) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:52] reminds me, record a few old blues covers and put them on my myspace, add paypal donate icon to myspace music site [00:52] yeah seems so the FAQ hasnt been updated for 11. you could ask in #fedora though [00:52] sahko: yeah, I use ext3 myself, so no big deal. [00:52] fire|bird: thats exactly what they want you to [00:53] brb [00:53] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:53] sahko: actually, if you use the live cd, you *have* to use ext4 in 11. [00:53] yeah that's true [00:53] and it makes you create a boot partition that uses ext4 [00:53] ext3* [00:53] fire|bird, wtf? ext4 is still experimental [00:53] nyRednek: fedora is bleeding edge [00:54] nyRednek: and in Fedora 11 live cd, it's default, you can't change it. ;) [00:54] nyRednek: it's red hats guinea pig [00:54] nyRednek: so is Fedora [00:54] deco, no, gentoo and arch are bleeding edge [00:54] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:54] nyRednek: fedora too ..... [00:54] Does anything actually use htdig, or is it just there? [00:54] so, if you want ext3, you need to use the install dvd. [00:54] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [00:54] (If I recall, KDE 3 help indexing used it, so I want to check.) [00:55] fire|bird, i'm starting to regret putting that fedora 11 dvd on that guy's computer about now... [00:55] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@n146s183.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:55] nyRednek: hahaha [00:55] fire|bird, this isn't funny [00:56] nyRednek: Did you use the live cd? [00:56] the guy had only used suse and was NOT ready to edit files to configure something [00:56] fire|bird, no [00:56] fire|bird, i used the install dvd [00:56] nyRednek: No one ever is ... but they grow up quickly doing it, or go away. [00:56] ext4 is not marked experimental in the latest stable kernel and hasn't been for a while now [00:57] antiwire, yeah, i tried ext4...it isn't suitable for everyday use yet [00:57] ViN86 (n=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-TWENTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU) left irc: "Leaving" [00:57] oh you're an FS developer? [00:57] antiwire, think of ext(not ext2) when power fails [00:58] hasnt ext4 been marked stable for nearly a year now in the kernel? [00:58] antiwire, no, an end user that is smart enough to see a disaster waiting to happen [01:00] BP{k}, i watched an ext4 root get caught in write loops that trashed the fs due to a high number of r/w requests [01:00] BP{k}, and this was within past few months [01:02] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [01:02] http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org [01:03] nyRednek: and which kernel version was that under? [01:03] If ext4 was so bad, do you think Pat would allow it to be the default in the Slackware installer? [01:03] 2.6.26, i think [01:03] ... [01:03] do you realize how much has changed since then? [01:03] Here you go people: http://slackwaregallery.org/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=0 [01:03] Ext4 was released as a functionally complete and stable filesystem in Linux 2.6.28 [01:03] the latest stable kernel is 2.6.31.4 [01:04] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:04] And it is not experimental in 2.6.31.4 ... just compiled today. [01:05] well, maybe my first look burned me on it, but i really don't trust it [01:05] it hasn't been experimental for a long time now and there have been quite a few patches against the ext4 code since 2.6.26 [01:05] http://slackwaregallery.org/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=0 <<--- looks like the Deiban installer on the screen. ;) [01:05] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.249.99) joined ##slackware. [01:06] spider1010: is it? [01:06] I just did a Debian netinstall this weekend, and it has that red and blue in the progress bar which Slack doesn't have. [01:07] It's not Slackware [01:07] Yeah, looks like Debian and/or Ubuntu to me. [01:07] it was. [01:07] now slackware is installed on all [01:07] and now it runs faster [01:08] I liked the Debian installer. Changed a lot since I last installed it in '03. [01:08] i sucks when you leave and have only one distro with you. i had to order slackware over there. over night took 8 days [01:08] Can't d/l? [01:09] mingdao, I don't want to imagine the bandwitch over there. [01:09] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [01:09] way to slow of a connection and i did try 2x but download would be messed up [01:09] it was 6.2kb down [01:09] Remember, you're also sharing it with a bunch of horny soldiers with *tube too. [01:09] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:09] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [01:09] spider1010: For future d/l's try aria2. [01:10] in the future i know what to take with me [01:10] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [01:10] spider1010, what branch are you? [01:10] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:11] usaf [01:11] Good man [01:11] lol [01:11] aria2 can download a file from multiple sources/protocols and tries to utilize your maximum download bandwidth. [01:11] It sure helps here, where broadband is not so great. [01:12] cool i will check it out [01:12] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:12] http://sourceforge.net/projects/aria2/ [01:12] multiple concurrent connections ... sure helps [01:13] sure [01:15] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:18] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:18] y0 Rat409 [01:18] Hey its me. http://slackwaregallery.org/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=0 [01:19] Look at sadams spoiled ass house. [01:19] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [01:19] I'm retarded sometimes. [01:19] lol [01:19] ..... [01:20] That's you spider1010? [01:20] yea [01:20] What's that peashooter you go there? [01:20] m16 [01:21] Those weapons suck. [01:22] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [01:22] Holy shit, I wouldn't want to *clean* one of those myself. (Yes, I know, if I owned that place I wouldn't be cleaning it, but still.) [01:22] Looks like this one -> http://slackwaregallery.org/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=6 ;) [01:23] hmm attempting to use the ffmpeg slackbuild and it's complaining x264 isn't found. ldconfig -v | grep x264 shows libx264.so.77 -> libx264.so.77.. Any suggestions? [01:23] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.14/2009090217]" [01:23] Wescotte, are you on 64-bit? [01:23] how can i customise the KDE menu? [01:24] veritos: yes [01:24] eg rearrange the Internet items [01:24] Wescotte: and di you install x264 from SBo as well? [01:24] BP{k}: yes [01:25] BP{k}: I tried both 20090310 and the most recent snapshot.. [01:25] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:26] The guy that designed that palace said that no one knew where sadam was going so every palace had to make 3 meals a day for him. in case he showed 3 * 77 = 231 meals a day for one guy. [01:26] well he was a bit chunky... [01:26] true [01:26] spider1010: heh probably the least evil thing he did was waste food [01:26] my cat is chunky [01:26] yea true [01:27] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [01:27] deco deco [01:27] you, your cat and mother are all chunky [01:27] jeev jeev \o/ [01:27] jeev: sup [01:27] bnothing man [01:27] trying to make some cool stuff with css [01:28] jeev: nice nice, still learning php [01:28] well got to the point of connecting with mysql now [01:28] veritos or BP{k} have more ideas about the x264/ffmpeg issue? [01:29] that's good [01:29] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-12-214.w90-34.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:29] the more important thing for me to understand the use of tr, td, div's and stuff [01:29] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:29] jeev: yeah , but that's easy [01:30] i know man but i'm lazy [01:30] Wescotte: not without building ffmpeg and all :) [01:30] jeev: me too, php has been taking for ever [01:30] Wescotte, if you've got a 32 bit box within reach, i'd suggest trying it on there too. maybe ffmpeg is getting confused with paths being /usr/lib64 and such [01:30] i think i'll be ok once i understand the table elements and stuff [01:31] jeev: yup, learned forms yet ? [01:31] yea [01:31] veritos: I doubt that tbh. [01:31] i always copy and paste from previous work though [01:31] jeev: cool stuff there [01:31] yea [01:31] yeah, faster [01:31] i like the stylesheet from gitweb, wonder if i can jack it [01:31] who'd know ;D [01:31] what i'm working on will never be public unless if someone hax0rs it [01:32] jeev: :P, get firebug for firefox [01:32] you'll see all the css etc.. [01:32] lemme see [01:32] jeev: makes life easier [01:34] uva_ (n=bno@118-168-233-130.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [01:34] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:34] hmm weird [01:35] jeev: if you click on inspect , when you hover over stuff you can see the code [01:35] oh shit~ [01:35] that's awesome man [01:35] i think that just gave me an erectoid [01:35] jeev: lol [01:36] Wescotte: you have yasm installed? [01:36] BP{k}: yup [01:37] 31337 [01:37] Wescotte: hmm give me some to build ffmpeg and deps :) [01:38] BP{k}: some what? time? [01:38] heaumer: got it to inspect ? [01:38] grrr jeev * [01:38] thanks a lot man [01:38] this has made me so happy heh [01:38] jeev: yeah np , it amazed me the first time i used it [01:38] +1 karma and +2 inches on your penis [01:38] so now you equal 2.2 inches [01:38] jeev: ^_^ [01:39] Wescotte: well yes. :) [01:39] BP{k}: sorry your message wasn't clear :) [01:40] BP{k}: took out x264 as a dep for ffmpeg and it seems to attempt to build. I have a few other deps like dirac, libdc1394, openjpeg and xvidcore so it's correctly finding those deps in /usr/lib64/ [01:43] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: [01:44] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [01:46] samyf (n=adeodatu@92.84.25.21) joined ##slackware. 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[01:55] that's the real kittyboy ^ [01:55] j Emilie Autumn - Swallow j [01:56] winstonw: i think they are all asleep [01:56] we should too [01:56] awws [01:56] lol [01:56] yus [01:56] lol [01:56] its late [01:56] Tue Oct 13 00:56:28 CDT 2009 [01:56] hehe, 10:55pm here [01:56] but the night is still young [01:57] hoobop (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:59] damn yu [01:59] lol [01:59] lol [02:02] uva (n=bno@118-168-233-130.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:05] ienh (n=ienh@88.164.161.31) joined ##slackware. [02:06] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-166.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:06] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:06] spider1010 (n=spider10@98.179.13.1) left irc: "Leaving" [02:06] alisonken1hom2: yo [02:07] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:14] Wescotte: compiling ffmpeg now :) [02:14] winstonw (n=winstonw@c-24-245-62-24.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) left irc: "Nom Nom NOm" [02:15] wubbster (n=wubbster@24.206.157.137) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:15] BP{k}: thanks for doing all this [02:15] Wescotte: no worries, I am sure I'll need ffmpeg at some point anyway, either personal or because it's a dep for some $app I need to checkout. :) [02:15] BP{k}: so it's actually compiling now? mine wouldn't get past ./configure [02:16] Wescotte: yep. [02:16] BP{k}: X86_64? [02:17] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:17] Wescotte: aye. :) and just in case you are wondering: it's compiling with the following options: "AMRNB=yes AMRWB=yes DC1394=yes DIRAC=yes FAAC=yes FAAD=yes LAME=yes JP2=yes SCHROEDINGER=yes SPEEX=yes X264=yes XVID=yes ./ffmpeg.SlackBuild" [02:18] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:19] uva_ (n=bno@118-168-233-130.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Connection timed out [02:20] Wescotte: Slackware package /tmp/ffmpeg-0.5-x86_64-1_SBo.tgz created. [02:20] BP{k}: I'm not using AMRNB, AMRWB, SCHROEDINGER or SPEEX but otherwise it's all the same.. [02:21] BP{k}: it's still complaining about x264... how large is your libx264...tgz? maybe mine is incomplete.. [02:21] Wescotte: are you running purelib or multilib? [02:21] BP{k}: no [02:22] hoobop (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:22] well you must be running one of them .. so "no" will be disregarded as a proper answer ;) [02:22] my x264...tgz is about 800kb.. [02:22] BP{k}: oh what is the default? purelib? [02:22] Wescotte: yes. [02:22] purelib then [02:22] 784 x264-20090310-x86_64-1_SBo.tgz (based on du -k) [02:23] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [02:23] hmm [02:23] you running purelib? [02:23] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [02:24] whereI just compiled all those packages ..yes. [02:24] redtricycle (n=redtricy@68.124.184.136) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [02:25] Well, I have to get to bed so I guess I'll sleep on this one :) [02:25] alisonken1hom2: :) [02:25] Thanks again for the help [02:25] hehe, g'night :) [02:25] or alisonken1noc :) [02:25] Kowalczyk: :) [02:26] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. 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[02:42] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:43] inspiron630: http://blog.zamzar.com/2007/04/10/convert-docx-files-to-doc-pdf-odt-and-txt/ [02:43] I can't even open .doc format in Open Office [02:43] it explodes [02:43] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-166.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [02:43] convert that to *odt and you are saved :) [02:44] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [02:45] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [02:45] luckily Google will convert .doc to txt [02:46] godling: doesn't google document do that? [02:46] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [02:46] not sure, init[0] [02:46] I don't use Google Documents [02:46] have a nice day [02:46] godling:a nvm :) [02:47] init[0]: Google will do it when you search online and find a .doc though. [02:47] yes i have seen dat , even you can transilate the doc to other language [02:47] it will even highlight the search term in the document [02:47] confrey (n=dario@151.59.24.83) joined ##slackware. [02:47] godling: yea even in the pdf files which can be seen as html [02:48] like http://tinyurl.com/ortizsalary [02:48] :D [02:48] Nick change: init[0] -> init[1] [02:48] Pomona Michael Ortiz $292,000 Provided [02:48] I made a tiny url 'cause I was going to post that link in a comment to my school's newspaper's site but I can't post it. C'est la vie. [02:48] :D [02:49] is that you ? [02:49] ;) [02:49] no, that's the president of my University [02:49] confrey (n=dario@151.59.24.83) left irc: Client Quit [02:49] student assistants and faculty are getting layed off/furloughed but he's sitting pretty [02:50] :D [02:50] It's enough to make you want to smoke crack. [02:50] http://search.calstate.edu [02:50] init[1]: our tuition went up over 30% too. It's amazing! [02:51] yea people just consume money! [02:51] fire consumes money too [02:51] so tired [02:52] me too [02:52] I should sleep [02:52] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A138.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:52] i just slept 10 hours [02:52] why are you tired? [02:52] didnt sleep well [02:53] take some valium [02:53] http://www.linux.gr/logos/penguins_high-quality_pngs/tux.bigger.png <- thats a big penguin [02:54] Is Tux a boy or is Tux a girl? [02:54] thats a good question [02:55] i always though tux was a guy but i could be wrong [02:57] tux is a mascot without gender [02:57] :) [02:57] no biasing [02:58] a non-gender specific penguin [02:58] :P [02:59] inspiron630 (n=name@c-24-10-163-100.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:00] an asexual penguin? [03:00] kinky [03:00] john_dee (n=id@93-81-142-95.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:00] :p [03:00] that's what she said [03:00] %) [03:00] greets [03:01] greetings john_dee [03:01] wow. under slack even gnome is like lightning [03:01] john_dee: Which gnome did you install? [03:02] fire|bird: gsb64 [03:02] much better than gware [03:02] no fscked up menus [03:02] Ongavezir (i=5062b254@gateway/web/freenode/x-gxznrsdjlihbtprz) joined ##slackware. [03:02] a couple of bugs but overall is pretty good [03:02] john_dee: yeah, I had gsb on both 32 and 64 bit, and it was FAST, but I HATE pulseaudio. Could you check something, do you have audio for flash stuff, youtube, etc. [03:03] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:03] Ongavezir (i=5062b254@gateway/web/freenode/x-gxznrsdjlihbtprz) left ##slackware. [03:03] fire|bird: not on slack now, but will check that out. what you don't have sound for flash videos? [03:04] toytoy (n=dindin@112.202.13.36) joined ##slackware. [03:04] john_dee: not with gsb installed, something pulseaudio related. [03:04] fire|bird: both 32 and 64? [03:05] So, I'm curious if it was just a fluke issue I had, or just pulseaudio being crappy. [03:05] john_dee: not sure about 64bit, but definitely 32bit [03:05] I don't have gsb installed on anything atm, so I can't check. [03:06] will see next time i reboot to slack to kick some ass in ut2004 :D [03:06] haha, ok. [03:06] aside from that, gnome worked great [03:07] anyway, bbl. [03:07] btw, didn't you have a bug with gksu? [03:07] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:08] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:08] it asks for pass but doesn't load the program or whatever that asked for privileges [03:08] adeodatus (n=rm@92.84.25.21) joined ##slackware. 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[03:31] hi channel :-) [03:31] its a national open source,digital day tomorrow in greece ;) fyi ;) [03:31] The-Croupier: #support [03:31] spook: thanks [03:33] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-136-8.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:35] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Client Quit [03:36] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [03:49] ...ping [03:49] pong [03:49] ok still connected lol...woops [03:49] @spook...lucky bugger, wish it was summer here! [03:50] heh [03:50] still cold [03:50] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-fcrptocblwcoyxni) left irc: "Page closed" [03:50] whats cold to u? 20? was -2 this morning :-( [03:51] yeah pretty much [03:51] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:51] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. 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[03:58] loosing all widget positions in the process :-( [03:58] use xorg.conf [03:59] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:59] spook: you must of missed the memo, X.org is supposed to be so good it doesn't need an xorg.conf now ;) [03:59] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [04:00] LSD`: for some things you benefit from using xorg.conf [04:00] yeah, dude i know... [04:01] should i be using xinerama tho? is that still necessary [04:01] spook: I know, I'm just being a pain :P Still, I can't see what's so difficult about making this stuff work right. I mean, Windows has had this feature for at least 16 years. [04:02] bump! [04:02] Action: LSD` just scared himself a little by realising that chicks born in 1993 are all mostly legal (here) now [04:03] LSD`: no you're being a troll. [04:04] rogersman: are you using a dual screen layout, with what i assume is your laptop's screen and an external screen? [04:04] spook: cloned...the laptop screen isnt used [04:05] slackie (n=x@87-196-217-192.net.novis.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:07] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [04:08] use xorg.conf :) [04:10] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [04:10] how do i format a usb drive to use fat32 [04:10] siimo: cfdisk? [04:11] siimo: man mkdosfs [04:11] Action: The-Croupier hates the joins and quits..... and irssi is not getting the command :( [04:12] specifically the -F option [04:12] The-Croupier: /help ignore [04:13] hmm [04:13] i got it figured out [04:13] used parted :S [04:13] does parted also format the partition? [04:13] spook: already did [04:13] spook: thanks [04:14] 1 ##slackware: CRAP MSGS NOTICES SNOTES CTCPS JOINS PARTS QUITS TOPICS WALLOPS INVITES NICKS DCC DCCMSGS CLIENTNOTICES CLIENTCRAP CLIENTERRORS [04:15] I only ignore joins, parts and quits from people who have particularly flaky connections. Not being able to see when someone leaves in particular is annoying [04:16] looks like its working.... lets see what hapens [04:16] I have them all in a small split screen at the top. [04:17] Urchlay: yes [04:17] this is what i did http://pastebin.com/m2b0ecc68 [04:19] hm. Error: Partition /dev/sdb1 is being used. You must unmount it before you modify [04:19] after that i unmounted it and did it again [04:19] right [04:20] siimo: "/sbin/mkdosfs -F32 -v /dev/hda2" [04:21] mingdao: that's that I would have done... [04:21] replace /dev/hda2 with yo drive [04:21] Urchlay: do it, mate! [04:21] i cant be stuffed reading MAN pages, i googled it and i found the parted way [04:21] first partition it with cfdisk as some wise Slacker might have said [04:21] would be a Very Bad Idea to reformat /dev/hda2 right now :) [04:21] siimo: don't be stuffed, man [04:21] man pages are for whimps [04:21] siimo: eh, how is using google easier than reading man pages? [04:21] ##slackware is for guys who can't be sussed to READ [04:21] both require you to read & interpret what you read... [04:22] because google search is better than reading man in a command window, i dont know i am just not very good at reading stuff in CLI [04:22] you young kids [04:23] the only time i remember what i read is if it was in some kind of terminal...or in irssi [04:23] yes [04:23] the adverts and all these make me want to read more [04:23] I'm an old fart I guess, to me a text-only command interface was the only way to use a computer for the first 10-15 years I had them,,, [04:23] nah if i was a kid, i would have used GParted [04:23] CLI is for M-E-N !!! [04:23] true [04:23] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.174) joined ##slackware. [04:23] with a nice fat GUI where i could right click the partition and go, Format [04:23] siimo: i dont see..why you dont do it [04:24] if it works...why on earth not [04:24] morning :) [04:24] CLI, multi-tasking, is what hooked me on Linux when it pissed me off so bad with it's esoteric docs. [04:24] i dont have it installed The-Croupier and slackware proll doesnnt come with it [04:24] Camarade_Tux: hiya [04:24] so have to compile it first -> waste of time [04:24] gparted? (which I don't like) [04:24] I wasn't about to let coders who can't write docs defeat me. [04:24] yeah, because repartitioning and formatting your drive full of precious data is something that should be *easy*, right? [04:24] Urchlay: yep, exactly my point [04:24] *click click* [04:24] ;) [04:24] well atleast usb keys should be easy [04:24] whoops! [04:24] I think libparted isn't very reliable (and all appps based on it: gparted comes first) [04:25] whoops it was gone! [04:25] hey The-Croupier :) [04:25] hows it going Camarade_Tux ;) [04:25] siimo: actually I'm sort of surprised you needed to reformat a USB drive, mine have all been pre-formatted and worked fine as-is [04:25] I got a 10K rpm Raptor that's been sitting in here since Slack-12 or before. [04:25] I was just thinking of doing the dcfldd wipe to zero to it. [04:25] The-Croupier: fine, I almost have regular schedules now :) [04:25] and you? [04:26] Urchlay: he got pawned [04:26] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-0-86.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [04:26] I did once format a USB drive as ext2, but it was a pain (couldn't just hand it to my windows-loving friends and say "copy all this junk to your hard drive"...) [04:26] Urchlay: i copied some files onto it from windows or something and in linux i cant delete them.... even rm -rf /media/disk didnt clear it... and turned it into read only file system coz it didnt know wtf to do with it -- was some weirdly named files in a firefox cache profile [04:26] mingdao: if you have no use for a raptor drive, I'll be happy to have it :) [04:26] siimo: Your nice fat GUI where you can click is waiting ... in the Mickey$oft side. [04:26] plus it'll clean your home, for free :) [04:26] Camarade_Tux: no, I have use! [04:26] mingdao: ='( [04:27] I love to hear that puppy grind away ... [04:27] ggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr [04:27] man, it screams [04:27] I have use for 4 more actually ;) [04:27] siimo: so windows hosed it, and linux fixed it :) [04:27] mingdao: hahaha :P [04:27] mingdao: I'm about to build a new computer (a (build) server) [04:27] mingdao: hm. I've tried to sleep in the same room as a drive that (literally) screams, it's no fun [04:27] Action: mingdao looks for spare change in the couch [04:28] Why sleep there? [04:28] ear plugs ftw [04:28] eh, because it was my bedroom? [04:28] Camarade_Tux: I just did a Debian server install. [04:28] Action: Camarade_Tux hands Urchlay some earplugs [04:28] Going to check it out. [04:28] Urchlay: more like linux cant delete the files, i dont know i didnt want to boot into windows to see if windows can delete it [04:28] mingdao: bah ='( [04:28] ear plugs are bad for you :) [04:28] no, replacing the drive was the correct answer [04:28] so formatting was the only workaround [04:28] siimo: check out dcfldd .... it'll take care of anything you left on the drive ;) [04:29] then, format ;) [04:29] mingdao: I don't use debian but every time I have to come close to debian or anything based on it, I discover something more than disgusts me even more than the same of what already disgusted me before [04:29] this old drive had something wrong with it: I had 3 or 4 of the same model, and one of them sounded like a jet plane taking off, while the others were reasonably quiet [04:29] ha ha [04:29] spook: they helps when the local firemen station has a party until 5am [04:29] hmm this is weird, linux formatted fat32 drive is performing worse..... [04:29] Camarade_Tux: I did the install just to find out exactly what base packages it uses. [04:29] mingdao: and the answer was? [04:29] I tried to do a minimum install of Slack 13.0 on my server; updated from 10.2 [04:30] It was a mess. ;) [04:30] siimo: you sure it was fat32 before? a lot of those cheap USB drives use old FAT16 [04:30] Camarade_Tux: I haven't checked them out ... just did the install this weekend. [04:30] yes i have formatted it a 1000 times before [04:30] mingdao: I don't remember if 12.2 -> 13 is even possible :P [04:30] Camarade_Tux: sure it is [04:30] fresh install [04:30] And it was 10.2 [04:31] Not 12.2 [04:31] or was it 11 -> 12 that wasn't advised? [04:31] or at least some version between 10 and 13 :P [04:31] 12.2 -> 13.0 is okay [04:31] my laptop survived being upgraded 12.1 -> 12.2 -> 13.0 just fine (so far anyway) [04:31] 12.0 -> 12.2 is not [04:31] anything to Slackware64 is not okay. [04:31] Debian -> Slackware is highly advised. [04:32] Anything -> Slackware is highly advised. [04:32] I'm certainly not going for debian on my (home) server, I don't want AoS: Annoyances over SSH [04:32] mingdao: slamd to slackware64 is supposedly possible (someone told me that, I havent tried it though) [04:32] I hear ya! [04:32] mingdao: hehe :P [04:32] Urchlay: really? :o [04:32] Camarade_Tux: yes, but I'm damned if I remember who told me that... [04:33] Urchlay: Dominian did it [04:33] I did use slamd64 to install my initial slackware64, but I was installing it on a different partition (installpkg -root /blah...) [04:33] hmmmm, I actually woke up because I wanted to pee and eat, damn you stomach, I'd have slept more! [04:34] I started with DVD install, then I had to use an usb key to install slackware on a netbook, I've never gone back :P [04:35] i use pxe for ALL installs [04:35] I don't always have the hardware (read second computer) [04:36] dropbear ftw [04:36] well, next install I'll be doing is probably going to be installpkg -root though [04:37] SIGBUS (n=gh@94.26.46.30) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [04:38] morning ppl [04:38] huh http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Drop_bear.PNG [04:38] morning slackytude :) [04:38] guten tag [04:38] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:39] hahaha: http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5673361,00.jpg :P [04:39] (yes it's ok for work) [04:40] nice picture [04:41] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:41] darkernet (n=zombi3@bas2-toronto44-1176438343.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[04:45] (yes, someone just joined, parted, parted) [04:45] uva (n=bno@118-168-233-130.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:47] Camarade_Tux: looks like i didnt see it.. ;) works ;) [04:48] thanks i forgot its an extra # there...(stupid) [04:48] :) [04:49] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:49] can anyone test if elvis works out of the box as root? [04:49] eg login as root, vi /etc/fstab or something [04:50] Action: Camarade_Tux 's vi is actually vim, never installed elvis [04:50] dont test it then :P [04:50] but it was working on 12.2 at least [04:50] sahko: ;p [04:51] here it never worked as long as i can remember [04:51] hmm weird it works now. wtf [04:52] bad kharma? =) [04:52] but what was the problem? [04:52] no, ive been messing with various vi implementions lately. maybe it broke it and fixed it [04:53] 1 min let me try something [04:53] it actually works [04:54] :) [04:54] Camarade_Tux, vi is actually elvis, it's in a/. [04:55] if you dont install it vim becomes vi [04:55] it=elvis [04:55] slava_dp: I know, but if you install vim and /usr/bin/vi doesn't exist, the doinst.sh creates a symlink to vim :) [04:55] hmm, that's fine. [04:55] i just have both. [04:56] oh, i've installed a vi firefox textarea plugin, it rocks. it's called jV, recommended. [04:57] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [04:57] Action: slava_dp is going to do lvm on a server for the first time. let's see how it goes..... [04:59] slava_dp: tried vimperator? [04:59] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:59] Man-erg (n=meck@93.40.100.119) joined ##slackware. [04:59] what's the advantage of grouping pv's on separate hard drives to one volume group? it's a double chance of faulure i take it. [05:00] Camarade_Tux, yep, did not like it. i just want textarea editing. [05:00] slava_dp: k, thanks :) [05:00] 02:55 | sahko > if you dont install it vim becomes vi [05:00] 02:55 | sahko > it=elvis [05:01] oop's sorry [05:02] np [05:03] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:04] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [05:06] slava_dp: hm, does your jv plugin work like mozex? [05:07] Urchlay, jv emulates vi in-place, i. e. does not open any external window. that's what i like about it. [05:08] Camarade_Tux: i reproduced the behaviour http://omploader.org/vMmpiNQ [05:08] if you want editing in external windows, use itsalltext, it just launches an editor of your choice. [05:08] maybe it happens only when trying to use some syntax stuff [05:08] how? [05:08] ah. I like mozex's approach, opens a new xterm with vim (or whatever) [05:08] cause it doesnt happen with other files [05:08] IceChant (n=icechant@94.159.166.222) joined ##slackware. [05:08] maybe something not properly exported [05:09] IIRC, I tried itsalltext and it worked, but didn't have a keyboard shortcut, or some silly thing like that [05:09] sahko: if you log in as root from one of the tty? [05:10] Camarade_Tux: seems to work OK [05:10] what could it be? [05:10] IceChant (n=icechant@94.159.166.222) left irc: Client Quit [05:11] sahko: and with a login shell in kde? [05:13] (basicaly I think it needs some variable to be exported, which one, I have no idea) [05:13] wah [05:13] 30 days uptime on my mbp [05:13] 30 hours here :D [05:13] IceChant (n=icechant@94.159.166.222) joined ##slackware. [05:14] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: "rebootage" [05:14] what? he rebooted his mac because he had 30 days uptime? [05:14] dunno :o [05:14] lol, 100 days on mine :-) [05:14] omg.. not good [05:15] Action: Camarade_Tux has a laptop [05:15] I had almost 7 month uptime on my macbook. and it still runned fine :D [05:16] 17:16:05 up 263 days, 2:19, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.01 [05:16] Action: slava_dp did not realize till now that he hadn't rebooted the laptop for 100 days in a row! should celebrate the jubilee today...... [05:16] spook wins [05:17] its running 12.1 [05:17] not broke dont fix [05:18] I'm running, slackware64-13, it'd be hard to have a 100 days uptime [05:18] 10 days for my house (but only because I put a 1T drive in it) [05:18] 11:18:27 up 31 days, 23:17, 7 users, load average: 4.26, 4.12, 4.04 [05:18] (the machine I'm connected to) [05:18] IceChant (n=icechant@94.159.166.222) left irc: "http://www.1st-vets.com" [05:19] alisonken1noc: showoff :D [05:20] Kowalczyk: if I was showing off - I would have put 2x1.5T drives in :) [05:20] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.84.58) joined ##slackware. [05:20] haha :d [05:20] md0 : active raid10 sda1[0] sdd1[3] sdc1[2] sdb1[1] 1945615872 blocks 64K chunks 2 far-copies [4/4] [UUUU] [05:20] ok - the NEW showoff is spook [05:20] :P [05:21] crap, I can only reach 56 days uptime [05:21] Camarade_Tux: why? [05:21] 11:20:21 up 23 days, 20:53, 2 users, load average: 0.16, 0.72, 0.70 [05:21] Kowalczyk: no machine I can ssh to has more than 56 days [05:21] have to reboot and install slackware on this in november [05:21] IceChant (n=icechant@94.159.166.222) joined ##slackware. [05:21] well, I can think of one that's been up for over a year, but can't ssh into it from here [05:21] Camarade_Tux: why ? [05:22] chiquita (i=5449ab68@gateway/web/freenode/x-mijwaukjhitzymtm) joined ##slackware. [05:22] Kowalczyk: no specific reason [05:22] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.43.176) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:22] Camarade_Tux: ok . [05:23] IceChant (n=icechant@94.159.166.222) left irc: Client Quit [05:25] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [05:25] if i do lvm on my boot drive, should i create a separate /boot for the kernel? [05:26] like, hda1 /boot, hda2 lvm [05:26] no [05:26] lilo will boot from a single lvm volume? [05:26] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.174) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [05:27] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.174) joined ##slackware. [05:28] yes with the right initrd kernel [05:28] ok, if i make a /boot regardless, it will not hurt i think. [05:28] only case in which you need a seperate boot is for striped arrays [05:29] raid 0, raid 5, raid 6 raid 10 etc [05:29] Camarade_Tux: seems it happens only inside screen and for root. but none of the options in my .screenrc changes that behaviour. [05:29] what if i would want to encrypt the hda2 lvm partition in future. for that i would need /boot, right? [05:30] sahko: maybe it needs to know something about the display it doesn know [05:31] sahko: and if you use screen+tty, if you log in from a tty and run screen there? [05:31] slava_dp: no just an initrd, iirc [05:32] john_dee (n=id@93-81-142-95.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:32] spook, ahh, so a /boot lv (unencrypted) with an initrd inside. makes sense. [05:32] Camarade_Tux: same thing as in X no difference [05:33] at least its obvious its screen [05:33] slava_dp: uh... [05:33] http://www.advogato.org/person/spook/ yay [05:36] joannis (n=joannis@80.253.189.213) joined ##slackware. [05:36] spook, i did not understand how that relates to what we've been talking about. [05:37] s/i did not understand/i do not see/ [05:37] it doesnt [05:37] slava_dp: read up on initrds [05:38] joannis (n=joannis@80.253.189.213) left irc: Client Quit [05:42] spook: good one - you certify her at a higher level than you are? [05:43] alisonken1noc: i followed the guidelines for certing, i know her :) [05:45] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:45] a girl? :o [05:46] a kernel hacker girl, spook, you've been fooled! :o [05:46] sahko: absolutely no idea =/ [05:46] Camarade_Tux: she knows her stuff :) [05:46] Camarade_Tux: couldnt care less about her gender [05:47] Man-erg (n=meck@93.40.100.119) left irc: "leaving" [05:47] spook: sure, just kidding ;) [05:50] xdoctor (n=avs@201.78.185.44) joined ##slackware. [05:50] geoffro (n=geoffro@ppp121-44-102-89.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:51] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:52] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-214-024.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [05:52] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [05:55] cool. why don't we have any hacker girls in here. [05:55] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [05:58] yesterday I said I'd marry any women less than 40 who used slackware and knew ocaml [05:58] I doubt there's any [05:59] s/women/woman/ [06:00] well - 1) I don't know ocaml and 2) my wife may have an issue about me marrying someone else and 3) I'm heterosexual [06:01] 4) you're not a woman [06:01] :D [06:01] anyone know what is required for the dual monitor dialog to be shown in kde's control centre (4.3.x)? ive got 2 monitors running fine but it's not enabled... [06:01] Camarade_Tux: dont be racist [06:01] 5) you're both idiots [06:01] rogersman: do you have 2 cards, or one card with dual outputs? and are you running slack13 with kde4? [06:01] spook: so we match each other :) [06:02] and which card/brand/driver? [06:02] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) joined ##slackware. [06:02] Camarade_Tux: after we determine whether he's running 4.x [06:02] on a laptop -> vga connector ... slack 13 w/ kde 4.3.1 [06:02] what video chipset and which driver are you using? [06:02] Intel 945 GM [06:03] as for driver...default i suppose...havent touched it [06:03] was the monitor plugged in and turned on when you powered up the laptop? [06:03] mm-hmm [06:03] some laptops require external monitor to be plugged in and on before they'll recognize it [06:04] yip, always on whilst booting [06:04] (before powering up laptop) [06:04] rogersman: did you reboot? [06:04] hi does anybody remember the name of the browser that is all keyboard driven? [06:04] yeah, rebooted [06:04] geoffro: firefox + vimperator addon? [06:04] or uzbl maybe [06:05] just wondering what im missing out on in this new feature of kde ;-) [06:05] Camarade_Tux: uzbl thats the one! [06:05] thanks [06:05] :) [06:07] @alisonken1noc - okay, so no special settings in xorg.conf required then? [06:08] randr does everything (randr is good) [06:08] there's also the "xrandr" tool [06:08] put it in your xinitrc [06:10] is it possible to update your group membership without logging out? [06:10] okay....sigh, I suppose if everything worked perfectly out the box, the linux experience would be a very dull one.... [06:10] geoffro: probably not [06:10] xdoctor (n=avs@201.78.185.44) left irc: "Leaving" [06:11] nheco (n=nheco@200-96-100-81.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:11] ok thanks [06:12] geoffro (n=geoffro@ppp121-44-102-89.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:12] geoffro (n=geoffro@ppp121-44-102-89.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:13] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [06:13] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left ##slackware. [06:15] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [06:15] on a totally unrelated topic...after every reboot, sound goes to laptop speakers until i unplug headphone jack then plug it back in again (reconnecting to hifi)...isnt this bizarre behaviour? [06:16] nope for me.. i caught my brother watching porn on my slackware laptop the other day..cos he thought that wouldnt happen ;) [06:16] haha lol [06:17] Action: The-Croupier hasnt told him about alsamixer yet ;) [06:17] geoffro (n=geoffro@ppp121-44-102-89.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:17] its not big deal but a little bit annoying [06:18] rogersman: you are afraid you are going to get caught too :p ;) [06:19] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) left irc: "Leaving" [06:21] yeah, im trying to develop a mixer than routes music through the speakers and porn through the headphones, thereby disguising revealing sounds to ur flatmates lol [06:21] t0f (n=foo@4.238.250.255) joined ##slackware. [06:24] until he opens the door :) [06:24] (and you don't noticed he entered ;) ) [06:25] s/noticed/notice/ [06:26] john_dee (n=id@93-81-137-37.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:27] Morning [06:27] Action: Zordrak is at home ill. Looking after his even iller missus. [06:28] should have gotten that flu shot :) [06:28] morning Zordrak :) [06:28] yesterday I sat next to someone who just had the swine flu :) [06:28] i need a girl friend... [06:29] spook: so quit looking [06:29] who uses slackware and codes in ocaml? xD [06:29] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-26-43.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:29] ananke: its been 12 hours since i last had sex. [06:29] spook: and? [06:29] thats too long! [06:31] you had sex during the beginnning of the afternoon? [06:31] no, at 6am [06:31] on which coast are you living? [06:32] west [06:32] ah, that explains it :) [06:32] (and 6am makes much more sense that 1pm without a girlfriend) [06:33] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:41] lmao2k (n=nothere@82.34.242.225) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [06:42] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.249.99) left irc: Connection reset by peer [06:49] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:49] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [06:52] phzin (n=Warning@189.57.19.89) joined ##slackware. [06:54] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-0-86.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) left ##slackware. [06:57] nheco (n=nheco@200-96-100-81.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [06:58] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) joined ##slackware. [06:58] plankton (n=peretto@gw.grupoperetto.com.br) joined ##slackware. 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[07:02] well, je suis en retard [07:02] i must to go travailler [07:02] Alpina, à tonight :p [07:02] ok [07:03] ++ every tout le monde [07:03] =) [07:03] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-26-43.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:03] I guess he's completely bilingual to mix two languages that easy :D [07:13] plankton (n=peretto@gw.grupoperetto.com.br) left irc: [07:13] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [07:14] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-dntolmumobsnwwoy) joined ##slackware. [07:15] english only please. [07:15] take it to ##slack-offtopic [07:17] Alpina (n=31f91@211.124.67-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: "[ BSmax ScripT ] 7.1 - Forza BSmax" [07:18] chiquita (i=5449ab68@gateway/web/freenode/x-mijwaukjhitzymtm) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:20] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:22] spook: wasn't french either :P [07:22] I need a girlfriend too, I need somebody to cook me my meals :D [07:23] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [07:23] i dont know where to start with whats wrong with what you just said [07:24] ^^ [07:24] somach speaking :) [07:24] *stomach [07:26] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-192-134.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:27] gnochis or spaghettis? [07:27] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [07:30] ok.... [07:31] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-116-51.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:33] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-dntolmumobsnwwoy) left irc: [07:38] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-oujrjisanzzwgdsl) joined ##slackware. [07:40] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:41] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:43] ehhm. I have a laptop here that I have connected to a monitor. the monitor supports only 1280x1024 while the laptop is 1920x1200. how can I force the laptop to also use 1280x1024 ? [07:43] zErOaCid (i=gnu@unaffiliated/zErOaCid) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:44] Kowalczyk, With open source drivers, you can use xrandr. [07:45] ok. hmm [07:45] when I do xrand |grep '*' it says the two resolution [07:45] ok. I just need to find the syntax then :D [07:46] Right, one referred resolution for each monitor. [07:46] Make that preferred. [07:46] It's probably something like 'xrandr --output LVDS0 --mode 1280x1024' [07:46] The output name might be different, of course. [07:48] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [07:48] I dont get any error but it doesnt work. hehe [07:49] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [07:50] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [07:51] Not sure why that would happen. Presumably when you ran 'xrandr' 1280x1024 shows up as a possible resolution for the laptop display? [07:52] no [07:52] xrand -q only gives me 1920x1200 [07:52] but vga1 gives me a lot.. [07:52] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:52] for LDVS [07:52] LDVS is only 1920x1200 [07:53] Are you sure it supports 1280x1024? [07:53] Xorg queries the monitor to see what resolution it supports. So the monitor is claiming to support 1920x1200, but nothing else, apparently. [07:54] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:54] nannes1 (n=nannes@host-78-14-127-160.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [07:54] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [07:55] no.. the monitor only support 1280x1024 [07:55] the laptop support 1920x1200 [07:55] I want the laptop to be 1280x1024 [07:55] I have the same picture on both. and on the monitor it's just fucked up :P [07:56] you can set them separately [07:57] xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1280x1024 --output VGA1 1280x1024 or whatever [07:58] thrice`: no. I want them same on both. it's just laptop laying here with the led closed. so Im juust gonna use on screen. the monitor [07:58] Right, but xrandr doesn't list 1280x1024 for LVDS. [07:58] only 1920x1200 [07:58] Right. [07:58] oh, only? sorry, I read max [07:58] samyf (n=adeodatu@92.84.21.95) joined ##slackware. [07:59] Kowalczyk, If you are absolutely certain that the laptop monitor supports 1280x1024, you could use the addmode and newmode options to xrandr. [07:59] yes when I turn it off and on it says mode 1280x1024 [08:00] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [08:00] but im not certain that the laptop supports it :D [08:00] the external monitor does [08:00] Right, we don't care about the external monitor :-) [08:00] This is why I said " If you are absolutely certain that the laptop monitor supports 1280x1024, you could use the addmode and newmode options to xrandr." :-) [08:01] yes im certain [08:01] Just a minute ago you said "but im not certain that the laptop supports it" [08:01] So you're not really being consistent here. [08:01] I ask a another one that is working here [08:01] he knows stuff :d [08:01] so yes [08:02] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:02] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-181-99-138.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:02] heya [08:02] so I can try the newmode and addmode and see if it works then [08:03] samyf_ (n=adeodatu@92.84.21.95) joined ##slackware. [08:07] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [08:08] Kristho (n=kris@port149.ds1-kd.adsl.cybercity.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:09] t0f (n=foo@4.238.250.255) left irc: [08:10] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [08:11] Hi, I'm new at Slackware and have a problem with building the murrine-slackbuild. It tell me that my "intltool" is too old (it need 0.37.1) and I have 0.40 installed. What can the problem be? [08:11] what version of slackware and where did you get the slackbuild? [08:11] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [08:12] Slackware 13/Current and I got the slackbuild from slackbuild.org [08:12] Kristho: also, there are some tools that need the specific version of some software to work... [08:12] samyf (n=adeodatu@92.84.21.95) left irc: "leaving" [08:12] samyf_ (n=adeodatu@92.84.21.95) left irc: "leaving" [08:12] The-Croupier: It tell me that it need 0.37.1 OR newer :) [08:12] slackie (n=x@217.129.172.195) joined ##slackware. [08:13] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.164.83) joined ##slackware. [08:13] Kristho, is that really the only error? usually it'll check for other intl tools and be happy [08:15] thrice`: checking for intltool >= 0.37.1... ./configure: /usr/bin/intltool-update: /usr/bin/perl: bad interpreter: No such file or directory found. [08:15] hi there! [08:15] bingo [08:15] Kristho: you dont have perl at /usr/bin/perl [08:15] aigon (n=fd@92.84.21.95) joined ##slackware. [08:15] is perl installed? [08:15] do you have perl installed? :) [08:16] damn, 2 sec ;) [08:16] adamk_: I tried the xrandr --newmode stuff but it doesnt work. It just tells me what the different flags I can give to xrandr is [08:17] adamk_: xrandr --newmode "1280x1024" 63.50 1280 1024 1072 1176 1328 768 771 775 798 -hsync +vsync [08:17] Action: Camarade_Tux would hack the build system [08:17] Zordrak: Thanks, that worked... Silly me [08:18] he or perl :P [08:18] installing without perl is generally a bad thing [08:18] Kristho: s/hs/HS/ [08:18] Kristho: s/vs/VS/ [08:18] Kowalczyk: have you tried "xrandr --auto" first? :P [08:18] nah :D [08:18] no change [08:19] hi Camarade_Tux [08:19] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [08:19] gnubien (n=e@97.100.244.58) joined ##slackware. [08:19] hey metrofox :) [08:19] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:19] Camarade_Tux, what's up? [08:20] Kowalczyk, That's not a valid mode... [08:20] metrofox: I hate camlcase? =) [08:20] is don't know, do you? [08:20] and for you? [08:20] *I don'y know [08:20] kitche (n=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:20] adamk_: ok. I just found it on google :D [08:21] Kowalczyk, Between 63.5 and -hsync, there should be 8 values.. You have 9. [08:21] aha.. :D [08:21] Kowalczyk, Bad idea. Use 'cvt' to generate a mode. [08:21] Camarade_Tux, I just got back from school [08:21] CaMlCase is bad, or rather CAMlCase is bad (think XMLNodePtr) [08:21] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [08:22] What is the dev-gtk package called in slackware? Can't search for it, because the search-site is down for the moment [08:22] slackware doesnt have separate "dev" packages [08:22] Kristho, it's "gtk" . I'm starting to think you aren't on slackware :) [08:22] adamk_: ok. so with the hertz and the resolutions it should be 8? [08:22] and you dont need the "search" site [08:22] watched the goonies last night for the first time in years...awesome...they just dont make 'em like they used to [08:22] actually, i'd put money on it :> [08:23] thrice`: I am, I just figured out that murrine needed a specifik version of gtk, damn :D [08:23] Kristho: there are no -dev packages on slackware, every package has the -dev part included [08:23] Kristho, no, it doesn't. the one in slackware 13 works fine [08:23] Camarade_Tux: okay [08:24] Camarade_Tux: late to the party.. [08:24] Kowalczyk, .Yes. You'll run something like 'cvt 1280 1024 60'. It will produce a modeline. Everything after the name "1280x1024_60.00" will be the mode that you have to pass to xrandr. I recommend using the name cvt gives you as the name for the mode in xrandr, too :-) [08:24] Zordrak: he :P [08:24] thrice`: It tell me: "checking for GTK... configure: error: GTK+-2.12 is required to compile murrine" and gtk-2.14 is installed [08:24] Action: Camarade_Tux goes back to his code [08:24] good coding Camarade_Tux [08:25] Kristho: be aware that SlackBuilds.Org scripts only depend on Slackware- and anything specifically mentioned in the README [08:25] Kristho, please, paste the entire configure bit, as there is probably mroe to it [08:26] thrice`: I really have to look at the lines before - it just needed pkg-config [08:26] Kristho, did you do this slackware install yourself? You left out alot of very important core packages [08:27] bah, I opened that porto bottle almost too long ago [08:27] Yeah, why would you install slackware without pkg-config :-) [08:27] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:27] thrice`: yes I did :) [08:28] and you thought leaving out things like perl and pkg-config was a good idea? :D [08:28] steiger (n=steiger@20150128117.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:29] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [08:29] seventeen] (n=fushyoun@storm.angrycoder.org) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:29] thrice`: When I look back - no :D [08:30] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [08:30] honest answer :-) [08:30] good morning vietnam :D [08:32] metrofox_ (n=metrofox@151.56.168.140) joined ##slackware. [08:33] lmao2k (n=nothere@82.34.242.225) joined ##slackware. [08:33] ye gods, what a busy day [08:33] hmmm..... I got an external sata device powered from my desktop with a whole heap of stuff I need to backup to a laptop (8hrs over eth@2.2Mb/s =|).... now the lappy has a sata port, but now power connection, can I umount the sata device and plug it into the lappy? or would it be safer to power down the desktop? [08:33] s/now/no [08:34] nannes1 (n=nannes@host-78-14-127-160.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:34] I'm just not sure of how safe it would be to have the device powered / umount ed / switched [08:34] can't afford to screw this hdd up [08:35] power down [08:35] I figured [08:35] or try eject [08:35] basically, you can try, if you hear the disk spin down and stop, it's ok [08:35] eject!? [08:35] otherwise, powerdown [08:35] eject is a program [08:35] ahhh, I'm not familiar [08:36] aigon (n=fd@92.84.21.95) left irc: "leaving" [08:36] aigon (n=fd@92.84.21.95) joined ##slackware. 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[08:47] slackie (n=x@217.129.172.195) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [08:49] why do you guys have so many tabs open... do you actually read/need all those? [08:49] max ive been upto was 50 [08:49] YES! [08:49] tabs are like the e-penis of the geek world.. duh! [08:49] Dominian: lol [08:49] I don't think i've ever had over 10 [08:49] axius (n=rm@92.84.21.95) left irc: Client Quit [08:49] Dominian, i tought it was the key size [08:49] Well, we could go by how many channels we are in ;) [08:50] Dominian: well, some ppl have a small e-penis [08:50] I usually have about 8 tabs open [08:50] guax: Its not the size of the KEY! Its only the type of lock it'll open ;) [08:50] Axius (n=rm@92.84.21.95) joined ##slackware. [08:50] Dominian: hey - got some new dell's in: poweredge r710 [08:50] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:50] alisonken1noc: Oh you sending me one? ;P hehehe [08:50] hah [08:50] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.22.230) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:50] alisonken1noc: that's awesome hehe [08:51] alisonken1noc: since you are offering i need some as well [08:51] I still have to get a chance to play with it yet [08:51] ahhh [08:51] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [08:52] jhw (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) left irc: "leaving" [08:52] Action: The-Croupier is bored of meetings everyday...:( wish there was another way... [08:53] bring your OOo impress presentation of females playing guitar in the shower? [08:54] alisonken1noc: that would just be him dressed in drag.... [08:55] would that be air guitar? [08:55] Action: theblackbox remembers the first time he saw that..... bloody scribd [08:56] hmmm.... anyone use the Ext2ifs program on windows? [08:56] aigon (n=fd@92.84.21.95) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:56] Axius (n=rm@92.84.21.95) left irc: "Leaving" [08:57] I can't seem to access my sata ext3 device on my laptop =S [08:57] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [08:57] gotta go to the eye doctor, no one do or say anything funny while I am gone :-) [08:59] haldir: i wander how would you call a proktologist :p [08:59] Anyone who know why I can't login with my normal user in SLiM, but the root account work fine (just for testing - won't use it for anything else ;) ) [08:59] haldir: WE'd have to shut the entire channel down while you were gone to prevent that... [08:59] aigon (n=fd@92.84.21.95) joined ##slackware. [08:59] and we wont [09:01] aigon (n=fd@92.84.21.95) left irc: Client Quit [09:01] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:02] Action: The-Croupier wonders if the channel is actually going to stay quiet till haldir returns :( [09:03] its not [09:03] Axius (n=fd@92.84.21.95) joined ##slackware. [09:04] Axius (n=fd@92.84.21.95) left irc: Client Quit [09:04] Axius (n=fd@92.84.21.95) joined ##slackware. [09:05] BAH! [09:06] confrey (n=dario@151.59.24.83) joined ##slackware. [09:06] humbug [09:06] Action: theblackbox goes to the window to shout at the nearest urchin [09:07] k1k0 (n=k1k0@189.107.9.178) joined ##slackware. [09:07] Nick change: SIGBUS_ -> SIGBUS [09:07] barf [09:08] cmair (n=cmair@dns.sad.it) joined ##slackware. [09:09] I just can't figure out why I'm not able to access my external sata device [09:09] really annoying.... turns a 10 minute job into an 8 hour farce =S [09:09] br00tal (n=Jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) joined ##slackware. [09:11] mornin all. [09:12] theblackbox: did you plug it in 110v or 220v? ;) [09:13] hi [09:13] Axius: [09:15] agentc0re, it's being powered by my linux box =S bit of an odd setup [09:18] slackytu1e (n=icke@p4FD8A575.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:18] Axius (n=fd@92.84.21.95) left irc: "leaving" [09:18] Axius (n=fd@92.84.21.95) joined ##slackware. [09:19] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [09:19] http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13527317 [09:19] ... [09:20] how can i check the HDD for bad sectors? [09:20] I get this error when playing some .avi files. An Error Occured. Could not read from source [09:21] adblocks -s /dev/sda [09:21] i feel like im having a test....too bad i dont know the weight of each question in credits [09:21] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FF698.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:22] use thar command. [09:22] badblocks -s /dev/sda [09:22] blackbox...i while ago, the most reliable way i found of reading and writing ext3 volumes on windows was to link up HDD to linux box,share over NFS, and access with nfs client on windows...low tech, i know, but works... [09:23] 70+ Gb of network transfer @ 2.2Mb/s [09:23] nah [09:23] ah... [09:24] ;) [09:24] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:24] ur F**ked mate [09:24] lol [09:24] not even getting paid =S [09:24] Action: theblackbox is a mug [09:24] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:25] just out of curiosity...what u need the windows for? [09:25] Seriously though, who the hell feels up the nurse that's helping your WIFE have your baby?! [09:25] im finding more reasons every day to just not bother.... [09:25] wouldn't everyone? [09:25] Keiffer: Use this command if u want to check HDD: badblocks -s /dev/sda [09:25] can a slackware64 box running distcc compile stuff for 32bit? [09:25] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-155.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:25] yeah, the lappy is HP and came with a win7 upgrade license .... I'm gonna see how that is and set up dual boot on the side [09:26] thrice`: hahaha. Constilation prize at the end maybe? Just figured he tried to be a polygamist. :P [09:26] decide which to go for.... would prefer -current-64 TBH, but just got other things on the plate [09:26] redhate (n=redhate@corona.vexinformatica.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:26] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:27] lol@ constellation =P [09:27] fair enough...bastard micro$oft delibirately not supporting linux FS [09:27] redhate (n=redhate@corona.vexinformatica.com.br) left ##slackware ("axur(5p4)"). [09:27] yep [09:27] redhate (n=redhate@corona.vexinformatica.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:27] artv61 (n=artv61@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [09:27] give em 20 years, they are soooo on the way out... [09:27] k1k0 (n=k1k0@189.107.9.178) left irc: "..(cyp): Read error: 3.1415926535 (Excessive pi)" [09:28] ha, according to Rodney Brookes, in 20 years we'll be able to close our eyes and access the google page =S [09:28] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A138.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:29] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:29] now if could just do that with youporn.... [09:29] Action: theblackbox demands a shrubbery [09:31] g0dr1c (n=unknow@200-207-179-237.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:31] %9 [09:32] do u have any other hdd's? [09:32] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:32] g0dr1c (n=unknow@200-207-179-237.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:32] obvious, but, you could copy ur data to ntfs hdd in linux...would be reasonably fast..70 gig...bout 20 mins [09:33] that's my last option.... but looking more and more likely [09:34] gotta love windows lol [09:35] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:36] ntfs-3g is pretty slow, it's cpu-bound, not io-bound, watch out [09:36] if someone is bragging that his hdd is unbreakable..etc.. i always have a windows cd handy ;) to show him the contrary [09:37] and how come windows cds weight more than linux ones... always wondered [09:37] Camarade_Tux, yeah, that's why it's last option..... will be less than the 8 hour ethenet marathon, but still loooong [09:37] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [09:37] use windows for that, maybe ubcd4win [09:38] Axius_ (n=fd@92.84.21.95) joined ##slackware. [09:38] Axius (n=fd@92.84.21.95) left irc: "leaving" [09:39] Axius_ (n=fd@92.84.21.95) left irc: Client Quit [09:39] Axius (n=fd@92.84.21.95) joined ##slackware. [09:39] Axius (n=fd@92.84.21.95) left irc: Client Quit [09:40] ahhh universal boot cd's <3 [09:41] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [09:42] sahko (n=sahko@94.68.173.70) joined ##slackware. [09:42] hi, I need the last slackware squid package but the package site is down where can I get it please? [09:42] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:42] g0dr1c (n=unknow@200-207-179-237.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:42] slackbuilds.org? [09:42] no [09:42] yes [09:43] no [09:43] no? [09:43] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/squid/ [09:43] but its not a package [09:43] So? [09:43] It builds a package [09:44] I did it before with anoither software and it mess everything up [09:44] I didnt lioke it [09:44] but thanks anyway [09:44] I run squid here at work. [09:44] Just have to get it configured properly [09:44] How did it 'mess everything up'? [09:44] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [09:44] You were doing it wrong if it did [09:45] it messed some permissions on other directories [09:45] eh? [09:45] I..find that hard to believe [09:45] its true [09:45] and you're going to trust a package over the script (which you can fully inspect) that builds the package? [09:45] exactly [09:46] yakuake [09:46] have a try [09:47] which directories? [09:47] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [09:47] I dont remember [09:47] /usr/local [09:47] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [09:47] maybe you set the cache_dir wrong? [09:47] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [09:48] if you run squid as nobody/nogroup, that won't happen [09:48] Or use another dedicated user just for squid [09:48] even though I doubt squid caused it to begin with [09:48] yeah but I mean to install it [09:48] the cache dir [09:49] that was the mistake Ive made [09:49] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:49] I think [09:49] the cache_dir should be something like /var/cache/squid or so [09:49] I will have a look again [09:49] no [09:49] not this error [09:49] and make sure it has ownership of that dir [09:49] ok [09:49] thanks a lot guys [09:49] He's talking about a different package [09:49] I will read some more [09:50] yes [09:50] yakuake [09:50] oh, sorry lol [09:50] crap,bug in gstreamer [09:51] the file /usr/include/gstreamer-0.10/gst/rtp/gstbasertpaudiopayload.h has the following: #include , but basegstadapter.h doesn't exist, only base*/*gstadapter.h [09:51] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:51] j0z: http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-13.0/network/squid/ [09:54] j0z: I suspect you neglected to define the SQUIDUSER and SQUIDGROUP correctly. [09:54] rworkman: different software.. [09:54] He didn't have an issue with squid..it was a different slackbuild [09:55] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:55] ah [09:55] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/squid/ <-- I just pushed an update to that. I *use* that on my home system; I *know* it's correct. [09:56] he/she wants a package [09:56] the problem was with yakuake [09:56] apparantly [09:57] ienh (n=ienh@88.164.161.31) left irc: "leaving" [09:59] redhate (n=redhate@corona.vexinformatica.com.br) left irc: "axur(5p4)" [09:59] packeteer (n=zed@150.101.122.57) joined ##slackware. [09:59] w/in 16 [09:59] bah :) [10:00] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.15.28) joined ##slackware. [10:00] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [10:02] bored to dev on win... [10:03] mystics bugs & magicals "no-changes" solutions make me mad [10:04] v4nelle (n=van@adsl77-146.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:06] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [10:07] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [10:07] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:07] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@n146s183.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) joined ##slackware. [10:08] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Client Quit [10:08] fosforo_1 (n=fosforo@187.15.21.60) joined ##slackware. [10:09] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. 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[10:24] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.15.28) left irc: "Leaving" [10:27] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [10:29] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-45-151-98.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:30] grazymax (n=grazymax@host232-154-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:39] my blog stats after a post about kde http://omploader.org/vMmpkaQ btw the 1 visit on the 12th is mine [10:42] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-225-231.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [10:47] heres a really stupid question...suppose software x only runs on, say kernel, 2.5 but you're running 2.6...theres no way of running software x short of downgrading the kenel? soz for the newbeeness ;-) [10:47] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:48] rogersman: depends on what that software specifically needs [10:48] there is no easy answer for that [10:48] okay, dont feel so stupid now...lol [10:48] rogersman: if its something that uses specific kernel headers, you'll run into problems yes [10:48] Something that requires the 2.5 kernel though is probably not something you want to run anyhow. [10:49] sure you can. you just used 'lol' and 'soz' [10:49] i don't see how anything stable would require kernel 2.5.x [10:49] i just picked the numbers as an example for clarity..... [10:49] rogersman: do you have an actual problem with some software? [10:50] or was that a made up issue? [10:50] 2.6.1 and 2.6.2 might have been ebtter examples [10:50] WHATEVER! yeah, its called hidpoint...for mapping logitech/microsoft keyboards on *nix [10:50] spook: Or 2.4, but in that case, you're talking about a horse of a different color [10:50] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) joined ##slackware. [10:51] Desiderius (n=DC@195.221.162.126) joined ##slackware. [10:53] ananke - could you refine what you mean by "what software specifically needs" ? [10:53] Desiderius (n=DC@195.221.162.126) left irc: Client Quit [10:54] jinjii (n=alpha@93.45.45.2) joined ##slackware. [10:56] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:57] eelriver (n=eelriver@24.130.112.52) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:04] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:04] does anyone tried to build /patches/pidgin on 12.1? looks like latest version requires intltool [11:05] however that packages is not avalaible in 12.1, I'm wondering how patrick did it ;-) [11:05] (I'll just build the 13.0 source on 12.1, ok) [11:07] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@n146s183.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) left irc: "Leaving." [11:07] ... [11:09] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:12] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) joined ##slackware. [11:14] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65219ed.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:14] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-133.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:15] sid77: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/pidgin/pkg/12.1/ [11:17] sid77: if you wonder how Pat built it, just look at his SlackBuild ... for 13.0 -> http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-13.0/source/xap/pidgin/ [11:18] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@adsl-241-165-87.bna.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [11:18] Hrm, I'm having trouble figuring out how to mount a Windows network share for access on my box. [11:18] Is there some special nuance to it? [11:19] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left ##slackware. [11:19] On this page are instructions for Samba and NFS -> http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:samba [11:21] mingdao: I just built intltool from 13.0 on 12.1, I was just sarcastic on the fact that pidgin cannot be built on a stock 12.1 [11:21] rogersman: he meant the dependencies of the particular software that you want to run ... download the source, untar it, and read the files [11:21] even if there is a pidgin 12.1 package :) [11:22] @mingdao...proprietary software unfortunately...thanx for responding tho...claims no dependencies as well [11:22] ? [11:23] www.hidpoint.com [11:23] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434533.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:24] rogersman: My first question is, who would want "the same experience they get when using these devices on Microsoft Windows?" [11:25] leitaox (n=leitaox@189.20.94.66) left irc: "Leaving" [11:25] My M$ and Logitech mice/kbds don't have anything special going for them on Windows that I don't have on Slackware. [11:25] omnipotentduo (n=omnipote@unaffiliated/omnipotentduo) joined ##slackware. [11:25] haha...i think they were perhaps referring to functionality as opposed to those nostaligic about the good old BSOD days ... [11:25] omnipotentduo (n=omnipote@unaffiliated/omnipotentduo) left irc: Client Quit [11:26] its the extra keys mate... [11:26] On the contrary ... if you install the software from Logitech, you get spyware for free. [11:26] What extra keys? [11:26] I have a M$ mouse right there >>>> [11:27] It has two buttons on top, two on the side, and a scroll wheel. [11:27] i my one (logitech wave) theres like 10 extra keys that i cant use (at the mo) [11:27] It is wireless. [11:27] Everything works fine with all them in Slackware. [11:27] not mine [11:27] kbd ... [11:27] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:27] Well, I think you probably need to explore software in Slackware a bit more. [11:27] Probably some of the stuff in udev rules or that Hal crap. [11:28] i you can direct me to software that would let me use these keys...you would have my undying gratitude! [11:29] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:29] I was going to d/l the hidpoint source and check it out. [11:30] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:30] Because you say it requires a 2.5 kernel, but their website says: Added Support for 2.6.28-14 and 15 [11:31] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [11:31] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:31] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:31] And then to d/l the source I am required to fill out a form, which lists as OS choices: CentOS, Fedora Core, Mandrivia, Mint, RHEL, SuSE, and Ubuntu. [11:32] if u plan to install, you'll need to mod /etc/issie [11:32] And if those were the ONLY choices of Linux distros remaining, I'd happily just go back to using Windows. [11:32] issue [11:32] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [11:32] slackytu1e (n=icke@p4FD8A575.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:32] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:33] CodingGnome (n=asdf@128.227.240.239) joined ##slackware. [11:33] So what you really want is probably multimedia keys working on your kbd, more so than a mouses extra buttons? Or both? [11:34] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [11:34] CodingGnome (n=asdf@128.227.240.239) left irc: Client Quit [11:34] actually, the media keys (play, rewind, etc) work fine, but i have a number of others...its not an immense big deal, but would be nice to use...plus just trying to get things like this working in linux is a good learning experience ;-) [11:35] And what did your Google search reveal? [11:35] loads [11:36] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:36] pretty common thread...its just my model is quite new so, i bit more of an arse [11:38] gabriel (n=gabriel@200.1.19.140) joined ##slackware. [11:39] bleh.. I want to take my keyboard apart and change the light dimming switch to control the volume [11:40] light dimming switch?! [11:40] gabriel (n=gabriel@200.1.19.140) left irc: Client Quit [11:41] spook is drinking and kernel coding again [11:41] yeah, its a lighted keyboard (blue, red or purple.. here's a pic of blue: http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5574/saitekledkeyboarded3.jpg) [11:42] bulmer curve, is it spook [11:42] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:42] theblackbox: yes, curve [11:43] rogersman: I used an IBM Model M until some keys began to stick, and no parts here to repair it. [11:43] ballmer, I mean [11:43] quasar - coooooooool [11:43] And that type of beast has been what kbd means to me for years; so I have no idea or desire to use the multimedia keys. [11:43] Sorry, but I'm just out of touch with such as that. [11:44] rogersman: not really.. I dont care for the lights [11:44] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:44] The closest I came is using the Windows logo key in Fluxbox and binding it so I can open apps with two keys. [11:44] its not normally my kinda thing either but i saw this 85 quid keyboard for 15 quid in gumtree and couldn't resist! [11:44] start + space to start konsole is quite handy [11:45] I'm very picky about keyboard layout and size.. these and Dell keyboards are pretty much all I'll use [11:46] I am very particular about the backspace and enter keys. [11:46] When they get funky and mess with | it's time to ditch them. [11:47] exactly ! [11:47] I hate those small bkspc keys. [11:47] i was always a fan of those big clunky ibm keyboards [11:47] need nice, big enter and backspace keys [11:47] with the clickety-clackety [11:47] really nice feel to them [11:47] me too [11:47] I recently refused to work on a server because that was the provided kbd. [11:47] Nick change: alisonken1hom2 -> alisonken1home [11:47] I told them either I ssh in, they buy a new kbd, or forget it. [11:48] i'm sure they are super annoying to anyone else working within 100 feet of me, but since I am ME and not THEM, I can see no downside here. [11:48] boojit: they make your forearm muscles tense at first, but later okay [11:48] I think the model M is the cause of carpal tunnel. [11:49] i have no data to back this up but i bet i can type faster on that kind of keyboard than any other. [11:49] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: [11:49] I wonder how hard it would be to change the light dimming switch though, because there is volume up/down buttons too.. so in my mind I'm thinking I could just switch the wiring around on the volume and dimming switch and it should work [11:49] but I'm not a genius when it comes to stuff like that [11:50] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:51] quasar: unlikely to work [11:56] myeggo (n=ElSofist@unaffiliated/gogomyeggo) left irc: "Saliendo" [11:57] knao (n=knao@adsl-dyn64.91-127-209.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [11:57] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-oujrjisanzzwgdsl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:59] gammy (n=gam@c-cfede253.048-79-73746f43.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [11:59] gammy (n=gam@c-cfede253.048-79-73746f43.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left ##slackware. [11:59] bolide (i=1000@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:01] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:01] rogersman: though I can't help, perhaps some of these threads will -> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/search.php?searchid=3582963 <- esp. the 3rd one [12:01] just did a slackpkg upgrade-all and bash died [12:01] alisonken1home: heh? [12:01] bash4? [12:01] probably [12:01] "bad command interpreter" [12:01] someone else posted almost the same thing here last week [12:01] bash4 is in extra, though isnt it [12:01] yes, spook [12:02] testing/ [12:02] he could be running it [12:02] mingdao - cheers mate ill give it a look [12:02] so why was it in slackpkg as upgradable? [12:02] hope it helps rogersman [12:02] lowkyalur (n=low@88.70.24.31) joined ##slackware. [12:02] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [12:02] alisonken1home: you have testing in your slackpkg.conf or whatever? [12:03] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [12:03] not that I'm aware of - but have to get a prompt before I can check it out [12:03] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [12:03] by default is has: PRIORITY=( patches %PKGMAIN extra pasture testing ) [12:04] So if you didn't remove testing it's probably there [12:04] well, there goes the neighborhood then [12:04] But you should have noticed before now ... [12:04] no - just did the upgrade [12:04] Is this your first time to upgrade with it in this cycle? [12:04] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:06] yep [12:06] just installed slack13 22 days ao [12:06] ago [12:06] on this machine [12:06] I ran slackpkg upgrade on my laptop yesterday, but it didn't have bash in it then [12:06] When I first tried slackpkg with 13.0, after running -current, it wouldn't work. Just changed my local mirror from -current to 13.0 [12:07] So I have not been using it ... didn't have time to check the error. [12:07] I don't check -current on this machine [12:09] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:09] It's in testing in 13.0 [12:09] Xires (n=Xires@66.190.79.122) joined ##slackware. [12:09] -current should always work [12:10] for slackpkg's source, I mean [12:11] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:11] Without looking are the last updates to 13.0 on Sat Oct 3 18:19:00 CDT 2009? [12:11] That's my local mirror, better check the website. [12:11] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-238-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:11] without you looking means that I'll have to open a webbrowser and look. something seems wrong with that picture [12:12] he he [12:12] some guys just now that stuff [12:12] obviously you are I aren't two of them [12:12] last patches were Oct 3, yes [12:13] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [12:14] I got a partial screen of the Slackware site and part some junk from the local ISP --- then it disappeared. [12:14] Sun Oct 4 15:53:07 CDT 2009 [12:15] for -current [12:15] and I can't copy a local bash since scp and sftp both seem to use bash on the host :_ [12:15] (from laptop) [12:15] rsync? [12:16] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [12:16] connection unexpectedly closed error [12:16] lol. [12:16] that's bad [12:16] sounds like you need to rescue disk [12:17] yeah - looks like reboot time [12:17] and my slack13 dvd is at the office [12:17] USB? [12:17] unless I have my slack13 that I burned before my subscription dvd came in ....... [12:18] pxe. [12:18] epple (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [12:18] ok - slack13 rc2 dvd [12:19] back shortly [12:19] how do i check which server am i running, like apache etc.. [12:19] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434533.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:19] epple: which server? [12:19] epple: webserver? [12:19] ps aux | grep apache [12:19] on localhost [12:20] mingdao: you're an idiot. [12:20] thanks spook [12:20] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:20] ok, but shouldnt it be apache in /etc/apache [12:20] mingdao: httpd [12:20] helps if English is phrased properly [12:20] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: "Changing server" [12:20] epple: /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd status might tell you something [12:20] ok, thanks [12:21] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-133.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:21] spook: btw, run the command I posted [12:21] Then you can PayPal me your apology. ;) [12:22] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [12:22] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:22] nachox (n=imarambi@190.216.26.210) joined ##slackware. [12:22] mingdao: paypal you the appology that the GREP APACHE shows up? [12:22] Nick change: metrofox_ -> metrofox [12:23] well... I'm back studying... [12:23] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:23] your command shows not shit [12:23] ;) [12:24] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:24] mingdao: apache is the user, not the application. [12:25] epple: what are you wanting to see? [12:25] epple: pstree gives you a nice view of what is running on your system [12:25] i want to install php now, apache is already running [12:26] aigon (n=rm@92.82.94.184) joined ##slackware. [12:27] epple did you do a full install of slackware ? [12:27] yes [12:27] if so just edit /etc/http/httpd.conf [12:27] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-183.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:27] at the bottom of the file [12:27] ok, let me chexck [12:27] uncomment the enable php [12:27] check* [12:28] its like 3 lines from the bottom i think [12:28] yes it is, thanks [12:28] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [12:29] change this also [12:29] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:30] then /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd stop ; /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd start [12:30] i cant copy some .avi files into another folder. sais Input/output error. Bad clusters?? [12:30] [12:30] DirectoryIndex index.html [12:30] [12:30] change it too index.php index.html [12:31] aigon (n=rm@92.82.94.184) left irc: Client Quit [12:31] Keiffer: fsck [12:32] /dev/sda3: clean, 1308/3022848 files, 6374181/12080880 blocks [12:33] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-12-214.w90-34.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:33] it's not a single file. so far i found 6 of them. all 700 mb avi. [12:34] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@86.192.148.215) joined ##slackware. [12:35] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:35] I also get a SMART error from BIOS at startup [12:36] epple, everything ok now ? [12:36] cmair (n=cmair@dns.sad.it) left irc: "leaving" [12:36] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:36] Scuzz, yes [12:36] k jsut checking [12:37] Is there any decent console-based text to speech program out there for linux? Festival seems crippled along with a few others I've tried [12:37] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Client Quit [12:38] what is this: Could not start process Cannot talk to klauncher: Not connected to D-Bus server. [12:38] you talking about the akonadi server ? [12:38] might be yes, wgat is this akonadi [12:39] im not totaly sure [12:39] for example if i run kate as root it throws me that [12:39] but that akonadi server is buggin the crap out of me [12:39] it was fine in 32 bit [12:39] but troublesome now for me in 64 bit [12:39] akonadi, even the name is stupid [12:39] lol [12:40] i been having random segfaults with 64 bit [12:40] so im about to save some things and go back to 32bit [12:40] i dont have nay probs with 64 [12:40] i wish i could say the same [12:40] although it might jsut be the upgrade i did to kde 4.3.2 [12:41] Keiffer: your drive is going to fail. [12:41] Scuzz: what's the problem with the upgrade to KDE 4.3.2? [12:41] kde crashes now and then [12:42] never had that issue with 32 bit [12:42] on -current? [12:42] well i updated kde with vbatts packages [12:42] those packages need (mysql, redland, qt) from -current [12:42] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:42] i had mysql running [12:43] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [12:43] how is that related at all? [12:43] I drove a car today [12:44] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [12:44] I cut the brake lines. [12:44] omg [12:44] deco (n=deco@69.108.88.254) joined ##slackware. [12:45] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:45] quasar, which one? i cut the passenger side brake lines on thrice`'s winnabego [12:45] Scuzz: akonadi has some pretty specific needs with mysql.. so if you didn't read the documentation on akonadi and didn't use packages from -current, it's going to give you problems [12:46] I got his caddie [12:46] ahh, not his.. his moms [12:46] you couldn't bend over that far jeev [12:46] Scuzz: plus KDE is compiled against QT4.5 in -current as well. [12:46] yea right [12:46] i think it says i need ktsql [12:47] or qtmysql [12:47] qt* [12:47] ok, lets try this again. are you running -current, or 13.0? [12:47] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [12:47] 13.0 [12:47] lowkyalur (n=low@88.70.24.31) left irc: No route to host [12:48] 64 bit [12:48] ok, if you are using the 4.3.2 packages, you need to be running -current [12:48] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:48] ahh [12:48] i get ya [12:48] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:48] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.174) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:48] i can jsut do an upgrade to current correct ? [12:48] should solve the problem ? [12:48] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-353-1-51-254.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:49] Scuzz: technically yes. [12:49] lets see what happens [12:49] Scuzz: -current also assumes you know what you are doing and stuff might occasionally be broken. [12:49] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:49] well [12:49] chloros (n=taqois@111.69.241.141) joined ##slackware. [12:50] not knowing what im doind and the word broken is right up my alley [12:50] yes, we figured that. ;) [12:50] hah [12:50] ai learn the hard way [12:50] but at leaste i learn [12:50] the qt package is almost the same as in 13.0, but is slightlyu newer, and compiled against the newer mysql. this is probably why mysql related things are crashing [12:51] ruben23 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) joined ##slackware. [12:51] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:51] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:51] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:52] chloros (n=taqois@111.69.241.141) left ##slackware. [12:52] hrm [12:52] ok - back [12:52] i am running current already [12:52] i jsut checked [12:54] could this be the issue [12:54] i installed slack-64 bit [12:54] then upgraded right to kde 4.3.2 [12:54] then i did a system upgrade [12:54] i dont know [12:54] Scuzz, did you use the LQ slackbuilds? [12:55] i used vbatts packages [12:55] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:55] i also have these two errors in my logs [12:55] Scuzz, do they work well? [12:56] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.174) joined ##slackware. [12:56] Oct 12 14:08:23 BaseFace kernel: guidance-power-[3688]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f4605805790 sp 00007fff5c506a18 error 4 in libc-2.9.so[7f4605785000+167000] [12:56] Oct 12 14:08:25 BaseFace kernel: python[3687]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f597ade7790 sp 00007fff1ec9a7b8 error 4 in libc-2.9.so[7f597ad67000+167000] [12:56] the 32 bit packages i never had an issue [12:56] they're segfault... [12:57] remind me _not_ to upgrade to bash 4 any time soon [12:57] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:57] alisonken1home, why? [12:57] it just dumped on my system [12:57] I already did [12:58] I think slackware is the only distribution NOT on bash4 yet. I wouldn't consider it too unstbale [12:58] had to boot the dvd to reinstall bash 3.0.1 package then reboot into the system to remove bash4 package [12:58] if you were logged in about 1/2 hour ago, check my notes then [12:58] lol [12:59] reav (n=reav@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [12:59] did it work at all? [12:59] not even close [12:59] wertik_ (n=wertik@95-27-68-215.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:59] "bad command interpreter" error and no console, no ssh, no sftp, no rsync because of it [13:00] hmm [13:00] alisonken1home, I've not problems with it, maybe it's a time question but nothing bad yet... [13:00] did you install a binary? or did you compile it yourself? [13:01] I've been using bash 4 since slackware-current(half 13.0) [13:01] doh! this is a slack64 machine. I just noticed my slackpkg mirror is pointing to slackware-13.0 [13:01] samuelig (n=samuelig@3.pool85-57-132.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [13:01] archiebenedict, he took from extra/ i guess [13:01] alisonken1home, there you go :) [13:01] heheh, i knew it alisonken1home [13:01] alisonken1home, it's coolo [13:01] *cool [13:02] scuzz can i query you [13:02] sure [13:02] epple, you already did ;) [13:02] slackware_bob (n=bobby@76.249.229.126) joined ##slackware. [13:03] Hello People. [13:03] hi slackware_bob [13:04] ok - try upgrading again - WITH the proper mirror [13:04] alisonken1home, this will be fine ;) [13:05] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:05] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:06] metrofox, how much upload do u have [13:06] wertik_ (n=wertik@95-27-68-215.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [13:06] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [13:06] good thing I didn't have an intel chipset - it was one of the updates [13:06] epple, not much [13:06] hi fire|bird [13:07] so the slackware mentality is that most root commands arenn't even in user's path. So user can't sudo pkgtool. They must su then pkgtool. Is that correct? [13:07] is there a way to automatically change all the ARCH variables in slackbuilds i download automatically? [13:07] who has about 10mbits of upload here [13:07] hi metrofox [13:07] sudo is in user path - /sbin, /usr/sbin/, /usr/local/sbin are not in path [13:07] archiebenedict, you can use sed [13:08] alisonken1home: right. But things like pkgtool aren't in user path. They could be added. But I guess the recommend ways is to login as root to run pkgtool. correct? [13:08] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [13:09] slackware_bob: since packagetools require root access, I typically "su -" then run package tools so typical users (like my wife) don't accidentally run them from sudo [13:09] archiebenedict, I personally have s cript in /usr/local/bin/build that has export MAKEFLAGS="-j 3"; ARCH="x86_64" sh *.SlackBuild [13:09] epple (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:09] thrice`: yeah im trying to do something like that, but i want to change -march and -mtune as well [13:09] since packagetools are bash scripts and don't require graphics, a terminal session is just fine [13:09] alisonken1home: right. that's what I was curious aobut. :) [13:10] interesting to learn slackware setup. going thru the slackbook. getting to installing part. [13:10] old gentoo habits. i kind of want to make a script that can rebuild my entire slackware system from source with better -march and stuff [13:10] archiebenedict: old gentooer? Or current gentooer. [13:11] well... kinda distro agnostic. imo they all have pros and they all suck in some way [13:11] metrofox_san you here ? [13:11] in most cases it would be as easy as changing arch from 486 to whatev and adding a line to the if-else blocks. there are exceptions though [13:11] samuelig (n=samuelig@3.pool85-57-132.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:11] archiebenedict: well just wanted to see if you run it. :) [13:12] like compiling for x86_64 - not too many optimizations for that right now [13:12] right now i use funtoo, backtrack 4, and slackware 13 [13:12] slackie (n=x@cb-217-129-172-195.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:12] archie, the default setup will most likely be building 486 code optimized for 686 with -O2; don;t expect significant performance increases (fyi) [13:13] Action: slackie hi there \o [13:13] samuelig (n=samuelig@16.pool85-57-150.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [13:13] yeah, i know, but i cant stand not seeing -march=pentium4 -msse -msse2 [13:14] DAMNIT, ive become a ricer [13:14] most modern configure scripts check for sse and sse2 on their own [13:14] ok - bash and firefox are back [13:14] ah thats nice to know [13:14] some require flags, others require a user to knock some sense into them [13:14] but what about the 1000 packages that slackware comes with? [13:15] those make me miss gentoo, just knowing how much work it would take to rebuild them all [13:15] archie, slack is not a compile-from-source distrib so there's no internal method to facilitate recompilation. [13:15] if you want to do tat, whic is fine, it'll require some effort on your part. [13:15] mancha: Err..all distro's are compiled from source.. [13:15] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-174-183.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:16] i meant in the emerge sense, i hope i wasn't too unclear [13:16] mancha - that's why there's slackbuilds [13:16] ok - emerge sense noted [13:16] yeah, i'll just make a pkgtool wrapper that acts like portage [13:16] Heh..go for it [13:16] Theres emerde [13:16] paissad-hp (n=paissad@89.87.195.22) joined ##slackware. [13:16] you can start with slapt-get - just don't expect much help here :) [13:17] s/much // :) [13:18] emerde syncs to the portage tree doesnt it? and it looks unmaintained [13:19] hmmmm, no idea? [13:19] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [13:19] reav (n=reav@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:19] yeah, i dont want to break any "slackware way" rules, except dependency resolution. sick of not having it. [13:19] Then use a distro designed for it [13:20] why does emerde always reminds me of a certain French word that sounds similar? ;) [13:20] no [13:20] Then don't expect support [13:20] merde? [13:20] archie, the only way you break the "slackware way" in my opinion is if you abide, like a drone, to some set of dogmatic rules [13:20] i dont expect support on that front [13:21] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [13:21] lol, people say opposite things [13:21] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-26-4.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] slackware_bob: aye. e-merde .. well it says enough. ;) [13:21] archie, that's why i added "my opinion" there :) [13:22] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-238-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:22] e-mail, e-commerce, e-merde :) [13:22] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-238-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:22] yep .. it's all e-merde ;) [13:22] gbowden (n=gbowden@147.Red-83-38-52.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [13:23] Gulug (n=old-time@189.56.21.197) joined ##slackware. [13:23] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-26-4.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-26-4.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Success [13:24] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72780.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] lol [13:25] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.84.58) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [13:26] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.88.19) joined ##slackware. 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[13:30] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:31] alright completed chapter 18. [13:31] now who can tell me where to get new packages? [13:31] of gone with the wind? [13:31] slackbuilds.org [13:31] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:31] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-26-4.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [13:31] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-26-4.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:32] slack_bob, the /extra dir on slackware sites; SBo, slacky.eu, private repos, your own builds [13:32] Blaguvest (n=Blaguves@213.67.122.68) joined ##slackware. [13:32] slackware_bob: new packages as in "updated to slackware" or "find slackbuilds for packages not in default slackware cd/dvd"? [13:32] alisonken1home: both. [13:32] so the official slackware repository is slackbuilds.org? [13:32] Hermann (n=Hermannn@81.170.156.174) joined ##slackware. [13:33] no the _unofficial_ 3rd party repository is slackbuilds.org [13:33] however, several of the slackware devs maintain slackbuilds.org [13:33] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.88.19) left irc: Connection reset by peer [13:33] Axius (n=fd@92.84.28.107) joined ##slackware. [13:33] an unofficial, not the unofficial [13:33] sQuEE (n=narya@host29.201-252-28.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:34] WARNING - GRAMMAR POLICE HAVE JOINED slackboy [13:34] :) [13:34] .... [13:34] mancha: THE official unofficial [13:34] Nick change: g4tt0 -> netCat [13:34] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-26-4.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:34] it's an imporant distinction for someone just learning this stuff [13:34] ok, is there an official slackware package repository? Or are the users responsible for finding slackbuilds and using installpkg to install them. [13:34] lol [13:34] ftp.slackware.com [13:35] slack, the only officially sanctioned stuff is on slack mirrors [13:35] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.88.19) joined ##slackware. [13:35] slackware_bob: try sbopkg (sbopkg.net) works great [13:35] http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/slackware [13:36] ok so the official stuff is either slackware mirros or ftp.slackware.com [13:36] slackware_bob: the official packages come on the disc you used to install from. everything else that you want, you install from source code. slackbuilds.org is the official unofficial place to get slackbuilds [13:36] that said, SBo does good work, has two of pat's inner circle folks involved, so they have a special status due to these links [13:36] sbopkg.net doesn't resolve. [13:36] nm, it's .org. [13:36] sbopkg.org [13:36] sorry [13:36] slackbuilds are just scripts that make packages in the same style as the official packages [13:36] reaver_ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: "powering down and out" [13:37] Why oh why doesn't it have a Control Panel with an Add/Remove Programs link. [13:37] Nick change: netCat -> g4770 [13:37] lol [13:37] if you want to be really lazy, and just make packages quickly: http://padbot.net/smf/index.php?topic=55.0 [13:37] just remember to view the readme before installing - ex: kvirc is in the slackbuilds repository for 13, but due to kde2 dependency, doesn't build properly unless you have qt3 compat packages installed [13:37] slackware_bob: you're thinking of ubuntu [13:38] ;oO [13:38] duh - kde2/kde3 [13:38] flrichar: no, it was a reference to Windows. [13:38] ok, slackbuilds.something and sbopkg.something bookmarked. [13:38] now to find conky.... first action item. [13:38] sbopkg is actually _just_ the single package - but it syncs slackbuilds.org for browsing locally [13:38] whiten0ise (n=someone@24.179.91.224) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:39] conky or konky? :) [13:40] sQuEE (n=narya@201.252.28.29) joined ##slackware. [13:40] conky [13:40] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-238-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:41] well if you're swedish konky will be fine. [13:41] at least in American impression of Swedes.... [13:41] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-238-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:41] konki [13:41] sconchi [13:41] (italian) [13:41] *conchi [13:42] and bubbles [13:43] confrey (n=dario@151.59.24.83) left irc: "Sto andando via" [13:43] they have a 20% off sale on konky at ikea [13:44] so slackbuilds are not the slackware packages with .tgz extensions. [13:44] slackbuilds are just scripts that one will gunzip, untar and run.? [13:45] Yes [13:45] crn_ (n=crn@79.135.103.206) joined ##slackware. [13:45] Minus the source. [13:45] ok so typically, you'd only have the packages on CD or mirrors that you will install using installpkg. [13:45] the rest by running the scripts. [13:45] but all can be uninstall using removepkg? [13:46] slackware_bob: you make packages with slackbuilds, then install them with pkgtools [13:46] slackbuilds from slackbuilds.org will d/l the source, compile and make a slackware package [13:46] slackbuilds are scripts tht take the source and make a package [13:47] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:47] ok slackbuilds help make .tgz package. installpkg actually install it. [13:47] and at least the slackbulds from slackbuilds.org, it d/l's the upstream source from the developers of the source [13:47] alisonken1home, what slackbuilds download the source? [13:48] Is that a new requirement? [13:48] seems like I picked the wrong app to try to use the slackbuild from. [13:48] when I use sbopkg, it d/l the sources for me [13:48] Oh, that's a helper tool [13:48] correct [13:48] Action: Motoko-chan does it the old-fashioned way [13:49] sbopkg syncs the slackbuilds from slackbuilds.org, but also will d/l the sources listed in the slackbuilds .info file [13:49] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [13:49] so sbopkg downloads ALL the slackbuilds and keeps them on your hd? [13:49] yes [13:49] it rsyncs slackbuilds.org [13:49] oh thats awesome [13:50] it is [13:50] at least for the version that you have set in the cnfig [13:50] it's 1 step from being portage [13:50] ew [13:50] errr I found slackpg tool on the system. that's not mentioned in the slackbook. what does that do? [13:51] package managment [13:51] gbowden (n=gbowden@147.Red-83-38-52.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:51] man slackpkg [13:51] slackpkg upates your system from the official slackware repository - which _only_ has the packages that come with slackware, no 3rd party stuff [13:51] alisonken1home: good deal. Sounds like that I need to resolve this slackbuild thing first then learn a new thing. [13:51] nice for patches or -current [13:52] slackpkg is pretty easy - it just checks the changelog for the official slackware repository (security updates for (ex) 13.0, or -current updated for cutting edge slackware) [13:52] depending on which mirror you use [13:53] as my earlier example showed - it's typical slackware in that it lets you shoot your own feet [13:54] ok, so when I download the slackbuild from slackbuild.org I could also download the source code right there in the bz2 format that they link. Or I could download the app code from the URL in app.info file. correct. [13:55] if you want to do it the hard way, yes [13:55] alisonken1home: well I'm reading the HOWTO on teh slackbuild.org site. Is there a faster way? [13:55] sbopkg [13:55] hard way? At the bash prompt:$ . .info && wget -c $DOWNLOAD && su -c './.SlackBuild' [13:56] I'm past the wget earl part. [13:56] now just to run teh Scriptz. [13:56] I believe the howto is if you want to make a slackbuild [13:56] oh, then run the slackbuild as root, it builds and puts the package into /tmp for you [13:56] ViN86 (n=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FIVE-FIFTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [13:57] http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ <- that one's on how to use them slackbuilds. [13:57] grab slackbuild script, download source, su - , execute slackbuild in the same directory as the source, installpkg if it compiles [13:58] I add: chmod +x name.SlackBuild [13:58] or you won't have the right permissions to execute it [13:58] hmmm so all package are compiled? Are any distributed precompiled? [13:58] Dallix (n=dallix@auh-b111604.alshamil.net.ae) joined ##slackware. [13:58] slackware_bob, most part of them [13:58] sure, but most of the sites that do so are crap [13:59] you could try slacky.eu [13:59] /bin/sh pkg.slackbuild [13:59] y0 slackytude [13:59] y0y0 fire|bird [13:59] ok, so ./conky.slackbuild worked. Where did the .tgz thing go. I don't see it. [13:59] tmp [13:59] went into /tmp [13:59] slackytude: there it is. [13:59] slackware_bob, path will be printed =) [13:59] I just installed slackintosh, and I booted up, but how do I start kde? I am not a termanal guru, but I was feed up with ubuntu ppc. can someone tell me how to sart X? [14:00] metrofox: I should have read it before habitually clear'ing. [14:00] startx [14:00] ^^me? [14:00] yes [14:00] you can override with OUTPUT=/path/to/save/directory pkg.slackbuild [14:00] slackware_bob ^^^^ [14:00] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [14:00] bah [14:01] there goes conky. either I broke it or it installed. [14:01] i jsut installed slackware 13 current [14:01] is slackware smart? If it says virus deleting harddrive, can I just type in "override" like in movies? [14:01] it gave me a fatal error, no screens found, do I have to set up xorg.conf? [14:01] more than 4 liters of beer in the fridge, that better :P [14:01] and upgraded to kde 4.3.2 and akonadi giving me trouble still [14:01] vbatts packages didnt have this issue with kde 4.3.1 [14:01] slackware_bob: ..... [14:01] Dallix, it should work without [14:02] Scuzz: What issues are you having? [14:02] slackware_bob: hahahah, of course! [14:02] deco: nbfrm :) [14:02] the akonadi shit [14:02] Camarade_Tux: stfunoob [14:02] Camarade_Tux: want me too ? [14:02] akonadi is damn annoying [14:02] Scuzz: I see that, but could you be more specific? [14:02] errors, anything? [14:02] turn it off like i did :) [14:02] yep [14:02] slackytude: it can be disabled. [14:02] the sql errors an such on bootup [14:02] Action: slackytude nods [14:02] it worked fine in 4.3.1 [14:03] eviljames: hmmm, yeah, gag me :) [14:03] deco: sure :) [14:03] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [14:03] I only get those errors when I log in as root [14:03] Camarade_Tux: nah , it's too silly [14:03] the names Ash, housewares. [14:03] it was fine as a user in 4.3.1 [14:03] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.94.55) joined ##slackware. [14:03] ViN86 (n=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FIVE-FIFTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU) left irc: "Leaving" [14:03] but now always pops up with new kde 4.3.2 build [14:03] deco: nah, I *want* you ;) [14:03] Camarade_Tux: how goes it? [14:03] eviljames: fine, and you? [14:04] Camarade_Tux: ok , just because of friday :) [14:04] Camarade_Tux: not bad, other than having to work :P [14:04] (except my new oven just died) [14:04] lame! [14:04] ls [14:04] doh! [14:04] Camarade_Tux: no more cakes :( [14:04] next time, instead of ls, type su. Then your password. [14:04] slackware_bob: ^ [14:04] Scuzz: You could try removing ~/.config/akonadi, that can sometimes eliminate errors. [14:04] lol. [14:04] ill try that now [14:04] su [14:04] eviljames: I turned everything on for a few seconds (it's new, I had to benchmark it! :D ) and *poof* [14:04] 12345 [14:05] I'll call on tomorrow [14:05] deco: cakes by the end of the week! ;-) [14:05] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Client Quit [14:05] Camarade_Tux: \o/ [14:05] alright thanks people. That first install worked fine. Now my system is properly setup .... with conky. [14:05] conky will steal your breakfast. [14:06] and your monies [14:06] so after the package is installed.... it's alright to delete the .tar, extracted dir, and tgz files, correct? [14:06] wrt http://noobfarm.org/?id=1745 , I don't need a girlfriend anymore, I need an oven first -_- [14:07] Camarade_Tux: or me ;) [14:07] slackware_bob: yes [14:07] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [14:07] deco: you can heat cakes? hmmm................. [14:07] no such luck fire|bird [14:07] same [14:07] Camarade_Tux: ...... [14:07] Camarade_Tux: cool. thanks. [14:08] deco: girls say I have eyes like of perverts :P [14:08] where do i disable it [14:08] Scuzz: ok, try running akonadictl stop, and then disable Korganizer (via the icon in the system tray by the click) [14:08] I tried startx, and it gave me 2 errors: (EE) vesa(0): cannot read V_BOIS (5), and (EE) screens(s) found, but none have usable configuration. what should I do know? [14:08] Dallix: Pastebin your full /var/log/Xorg.0.log file. [14:08] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:08] Camarade_Tux: like this --> -_- [14:09] It's odd that it's using the vesa driver. [14:09] Dallix: use pastebin.ca - DON'T PASTE IT HERE [14:09] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Client Quit [14:09] Heh... I guess I should stop assuming that people know what pastebin means :-) [14:09] lol [14:09] deco: basically yes, "small eyes" [14:09] or paste it here and see what happens [14:09] spook: doh! [14:10] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:10] Scuzz [14:10] I know about pastebin .... you normally find me in the #windows channel [14:10] ...... [14:10] fosforo_1 (n=fosforo@187.15.21.60) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [14:11] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@187.15.24.139) joined ##slackware. [14:11] Dallix: we get a lot of people that don't know about pastebin, so if we don't know you it's a habit I have of posting that [14:11] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [14:11] Camarade_Tux: http://www.fat-pie.com/salad2.htm [14:11] /spam [14:11] wb Scuzz, any luck? [14:11] sametrhing fire|bird except i only get one error box now instead of two [14:12] heh, getting closer then. :P [14:12] ahha [14:12] this is what i get when i stop akonadi server as root [14:12] how do I set up a network connection in the termanal.. or is it automaticly set up when I plug the cable in? [14:13] http://pastebin.com/d51b5cffd [14:14] winter: no, sorry, I really don't love it [14:14] Scuzz: [14:14] yes sirt [14:14] sir* [14:15] what version of glibc are you using ? [14:15] np, i've just assocjated that with your broken oven. [14:15] this is a clean install and i upgrade all packages [14:15] how would i check the version ? [14:15] winter: I think I've already seen that episode ;-) [14:16] Scuzz: ls /var/log/packages/*glibc* is one way. [14:16] /glibc-2.9-i486-3 [14:16] de ja vu [14:17] /var/log/packages/glibc-2.9-i486-3 /var/log/packages/glibc-i18n-2.9-i486-3 /var/log/packages/glibc-profile-2.9-i486-3 /var/log/packages/glibc-solibs-2.9-i486-3 /var/log/packages/glibc-zoneinfo-2.9-noarch-3 [14:17] mamma mia [14:18] hey mancha [14:18] Scuzz: clean install, 13.0 or current, and x86 or x86_64? [14:18] 13.0 current 86 [14:18] k [14:19] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:19] hey fire [14:19] Scuzz: give me a minute to test it, i haven't had any segfault reports. i'm going to see if i can recreate it. [14:20] i dont have segfaults with current [14:20] i did with 64 [14:20] oh [14:20] 64 bit and kde4.3.2 was crashing often [14:20] Emeaudroide (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-83-181.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:21] so i reverted back for now [14:21] to 32 bit [14:21] Scuzz: thats where i was getting at, you mentioned segfaults earlier. it looked like python was segfaulting on libc, while running guidance-power-manager [14:21] yes that was what i remember [14:21] i never tried the kde4.3.1 though with 64bit [14:22] the akonadi now on 4,3,2 keeps popping up [14:22] dallix_ (i=c3e5f23a@gateway/web/freenode/x-yxsrprthcwmqbgmd) joined ##slackware. [14:22] with error on bootup [14:22] alrighty. i'm re-imaging my build machine. i'll re-run through the builds. [14:22] sorry did I miss something? my cable fell out [14:22] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-26-43.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:22] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [14:23] dallix_: no, you didn't. [14:23] thanks [14:23] is akonadi vital in anyway ? [14:23] can i uninstall it [14:24] Scuzz: you could, but you may experience issues, especially if you use Kopete, Korganizer, Kmail/Kontact, etc. [14:24] bah i do [14:24] lol [14:25] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-83-181.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:25] fwiw, when I had akonadi issues, this was on 4.2.4 though, not vbatts packages, but then when I'd start akonadi myself, then it'd start fine, but I'd get errors from it on boot. [14:25] i may jsut go back to 4.3.1 [14:26] Nick change: NaCl -> SpanishInquisitr [14:26] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-238-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:26] dallix_ (i=c3e5f23a@gateway/web/freenode/x-yxsrprthcwmqbgmd) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [14:26] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-228-113.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:26] fire|bird: akonadi works fine for me in 4.3.2 [14:26] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-228-113.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] SpanishInquisitr: yeah, same here. I have 4.3.1 on the desktop and 4.3.2 on the laptop. [14:26] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-238-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:27] doesnt make sense [14:27] this is a clean install [14:27] I had had issues with it on 4.2.4, then after a while, it magically started working. :P [14:27] akonadi was fine with defualt install [14:27] then i upgraded [14:27] I had issues with it in 4.2.4, then when I upgraded with the vbatts packages, they worked fine [14:27] yeah, same here. [14:27] hrm [14:28] 4.2.4 had issues with it, then the upgrade to vbatts packages, it worked fine. [14:28] woner if i upgrade to 4,3,2 then to 4.3.2 if it will work [14:28] 4.3.1 i mean [14:28] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:28] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:28] there has to be a reason other then my n0obishness why its not working [14:30] mine doesnt work either [14:30] Nick change: SpanishInquisitr -> NaCl [14:32] crn_ (n=crn@79.135.103.206) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:32] crn_ (n=crn@79.135.103.206) joined ##slackware. [14:32] Hermann (n=Hermannn@81.170.156.174) left irc: Connection reset by peer [14:32] fire|bird, is it safe to say you had 4.3.1 installed before upgrading to 4.3.2 ? [14:33] Scuzz: yeah. That's what I did to, I had slack's 4.2.4, then upgraded to 4.3.1, and then upgraded to 4.3.2 [14:33] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [14:33] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72780.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:33] s/to/too/ [14:34] im gonna do that now jsut for testing purposes [14:35] so I instlled urxvt. however launcing it says unable to load base fontset. It's a valid .Xdefaults file from another system used to load fonts. How to debug this? [14:35] Dallix (n=dallix@auh-b111604.alshamil.net.ae) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:35] I have the fonts installed on the system. fc-list shows the fonts. [14:36] epple (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [14:36] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [14:36] what is good ftp server for slackware [14:36] which* [14:36] vsftpd? [14:36] None. Let FTP die [14:36] ++straterra; [14:36] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72780.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] what a weird crash [14:37] twanny796 (n=twanny@85.232.203.29) joined ##slackware. [14:37] Anytime you want to send your passwords out over the wire cleartext, go ahead and use ftp. [14:37] twanny796 (n=twanny@85.232.203.29) left irc: Client Quit [14:37] sftp? [14:37] You COULD use SSL..but..meh..It's easier to use scp [14:38] Action: phzin [Playing: Pitty - Me Adora.mp3, :] [14:38] phzin (n=Warning@189.57.19.89) left ##slackware. [14:38] here is the thing, i have a friend that wants to send me file of size 2.8GB, what is the easiest way to transfer, and he doesent have any p2p programm [14:38] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.174.218.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:38] email. [14:38] just install vsftpd, it's simple [14:38] preferrably with extension of .zip or .exe [14:39] no .tar.gz [14:39] ffmpegthumbnailer takes its job serious. it either gets a thumbnail or takes the machine down [14:39] paissad-hp (n=paissad@89.87.195.22) left irc: Connection reset by peer [14:39] epple: does he have linux? [14:39] if so, shhfs [14:39] sshfs [14:39] yes [14:39] or just scp [14:39] vote scp or winscp. [14:39] no way, sshfs is not the right choice [14:39] ped (n=Warning@189.57.19.89) joined ##slackware. [14:39] epple: use ftp [14:40] i vote for sharing the file over http, it's way easier than any solution [14:40] true [14:40] rg3 where to share 2.8GB file [14:40] cd /dir/where/the/file/is && python -m SimpleHTTPServer [14:40] and you download it directly from him [14:40] if it's simple movie , http is good.... [14:40] something like that [14:40] ped (n=Warning@189.57.19.89) left ##slackware. [14:40] i think he uses mandriva [14:41] proftpd with autenthication and that's it [14:41] does simplehttp have resume capability? [14:41] winter: fail. [14:41] why [14:41] the task is simp[le as ... [14:41] The point is to avoid ftp. [14:41] epple (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:41] Action: eviljames stands behind rsync [14:41] why avoid ftp? [14:41] v4nelle (n=van@adsl77-146.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:41] mancha: probably, i suppose [14:41] the dude wanted to recive a single file [14:42] mancha: Well, I avoid it on principle. [14:42] just put it in the htdocs dir [14:42] and start apache [14:42] he wants to do a one-off file transfer and he's getting answers to every question he didn't ask :) [14:42] which was, what's a good ftp daemon! [14:42] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-238-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:42] even email is a good way for it [14:43] we are just to l33t for simple answers [14:43] most e-mail servers will reject 2.8GB attachments. [14:43] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-238-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:43] ph1 (n=Warning@189.57.19.89) joined ##slackware. [14:43] well gmail not (probably) [14:43] ha, most consumer stuff mail quits at anything over 5mb [14:43] slackytude: mine's 20mb [14:44] guess you could split that 2.8 Gig in 20mb zips ^-^ [14:44] and put it on rapidshare [14:44] I'd use scp -_- [14:44] hr hr [14:44] netcat ! [14:44] rapidshare = 300mb [14:44] lol [14:44] Camarade_Tux: That would be known as "A good solution" - that's not the type of answers people are looking for! [14:44] bah, just split it in 1.44MB parts... [14:44] guys cant' anyone help me determine why urxvt doesn't see my fonts that are installed in X? [14:44] aye [14:44] oldschool ftw [14:44] eviljames: is the floppy answer better? =) [14:45] print it out and send via pidgeon [14:45] Camarade_Tux: NO. That sent shivers down my spine... horrible memories of pirating Wolfenstein 3d from local BBS [14:45] slackware_bob: it wants a specific type of fonts, all aren't usable [14:45] oh yeah [14:45] 20+ floppies and one corrupt [14:45] sucks [14:45] eviljames: ^^ [14:45] Camarade_Tux: well, it uses xft fonts. And fc-list dumps a list of those. I normally use any from that list on my other linux systems. But on this one it fails saying unalbe to load base fontset. [14:45] have him burn it on dvd, take 1-2 months training carrier pigeons, and attach the dvd to one of thier talons. oh wait, you asked about an ftp daemon, vsftpd [14:45] :P [14:45] slackytude: Then extracting it was a logistical nightmare, considering at the time I had an 80MB hard drive [14:46] Action: Camarade_Tux sends eviljames a 2TB drive :p [14:46] eviljames, oh, yeah ,that too [14:46] eviljames, what do I delete this time [14:46] seriously, people just burn it and drive over. [14:46] mancha: Carrier pidgeons are significantly faster than some countries' broadband. [14:46] slackware_bob: how do you set the font? (I mean, what is the entry in the conf) [14:46] juggling KBytes around [14:46] evil, some pigeons are oc-3 [14:46] eviljames: south africa :) [14:46] Axius (n=fd@92.84.28.107) left irc: Connection timed out [14:46] Camarade_Tux: URxvt*faceName: Dejavu Sans Mono:pixelsize=11 [14:47] I think you mean european swallows [14:47] J ? [14:47] slackytude: I love it when a female european swallows [14:47] slackytude: not all european swallow -_- [14:47] Camarade_Tux: or, URxvt.font: Dejavu Sans Mono-9 [14:47] err, wait, are we still on the same topic? [14:47] oh, that's not what you meant? oopsy [14:47] do europeans swallow, eh? [14:47] Action: slackytude checks dictonary [14:47] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] Camarade_Tux: guttermind. [14:47] Camarade_Tux: or using cli, urxvt -fn "Dejavu Sans Mono" [14:48] slackware_bob: i don't think rxvt, at least the version in slackware, supports freetype fonts [14:48] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC30038.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [14:48] slackware_bob: argh, not J, V: DejaVu [14:48] and I'm not sure there'd be spaces [14:48] (but I don't use urxvt) [14:48] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barn_Swallow [14:48] does it support freetype fonts? :O [14:49] eviljames: did you see that a south african company use pidgeon carriers to beat an internet transfer? [14:49] heh, I saw it [14:49] pidgeons were 20 times faster and the transfer was over 300km or so [14:49] rinaldi (n=chatzill@h43.235.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] hahahah, yeah. Reminded me of the 50 mile e-mail for some reason [14:49] Camarade_Tux: ok, my bad. I needs to be prefixed with a "xft:" to use xft fonts. [14:49] Camarade_Tux: thanks. :) [14:49] just like amazon switched over to sending harddisks via snail mail [14:49] terrible ping time but a lot of bandwidth [14:50] for their cloud stuff [14:50] no d in pigeon! [14:50] slackytude: he, I know ;) [14:50] (for swallows ;) ) [14:50] them too [14:50] http://www.ibiblio.org/harris/500milemail.html <- best tech support ever. [14:50] For the uninitiated. [14:50] pigeon, pidgin [14:50] slackware_bob: so it works after all with freetype fonts? :) [14:51] Action: slackytude hasnt been uninitiated for a long time [14:51] rg3: it does. :) [14:51] slackytude: *un*initiated? [14:51] pidgeon is pidgin english :> [14:51] ok, bbl I think [14:51] slackware_bob: wait a second, urxvt is a custom package? [14:52] rg3: it is. rxvt-unicode. [14:52] mancha: so pigeon is british english? [14:52] mancha: and how do you pronounce it? [14:52] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.31.69) joined ##slackware. [14:52] rg3: slackbuilds.org has it [14:52] rg3: well, offof slackbuilds.org. Not in base install. [14:52] slackware_bob: oh, sorry, i thought it was part of the standard rxvt package in slack and that's why i suspected it didn't support freetype [14:52] you sip some tea&milk, tighten your upper lip, and say pigeon, as if you were a monarch [14:53] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-238-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:53] mancha: "pijon"? [14:53] ("pigeon" is the french word too ;) ) [14:53] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-238-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:53] could someone pass me the grey pijon? [14:53] mancha: my cate ate it :( [14:53] flrichar (n=toril@tor.ipv6.geexology.org) left ##slackware. [14:54] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:54] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.31.69) left irc: "No Ping reply in 90 seconds." [14:54] ok, gone, laterz kidz :) [14:55] Camarade_Tux: btw,O [14:55] grrrrrrr nvm [14:55] Action: deco goes back to read [14:55] deco: ? [14:55] Camarade_Tux: nothing, just remember friday [14:58] ^^ [14:58] info rinaldi [14:58] aigon (n=rm@92.84.28.107) joined ##slackware. [14:58] it's /msg nickserv info rinaldi ;) [14:59] ;p; [14:59] lol* [14:59] thanks [14:59] you're welcome [14:59] Nick change: jgor_ -> jgor [14:59] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-228-113.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:59] hi fire|bird [15:00] hey thrice`, how are you? [15:00] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.31.69) joined ##slackware. [15:00] alright; still at work :( you ? [15:00] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [15:00] firedix (n=firedix@host195.201-252-177.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [15:00] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: "That's my story, and I'm sticking to it." [15:00] great, thanks. I had Fedora installing yesterday in a VM, it was taking forever, so I had to stop it because it got to late and I shut the PC down each night. [15:01] after around 4-5 hours, it wasn't even half done with the install. :/ [15:01] samuelig (n=samuelig@16.pool85-57-150.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: "Leaving" [15:01] fire|bird: dvd ? [15:01] yup [15:01] oh [15:01] brb [15:01] slackware_bob (n=bobby@76.249.229.126) left irc: "leaving" [15:01] Man_of_Wax: [15:01] AHHH [15:01] lol [15:01] it's still happening [15:02] no love [15:02] what the heck causes that, and it's ONLY in ##slackware. [15:02] deco [15:02] see, there it works [15:02] without the : [15:02] you typed it out ? [15:02] yeah [15:02] Man_of_Wax: [15:02] yeah [15:02] lol [15:02] but if I add the :, it doesn't [15:02] deco> [15:02] bindings ? [15:03] nope [15:03] hey .. i need to install slakcware with a kernel which has [15:03] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [15:03] oh god [15:03] EFI_PARTITIONS=y [15:03] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.31.69) left irc: "No Ping reply in 90 seconds." [15:03] B0BBY (n=bobby@76.249.229.126) joined ##slackware. [15:03] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.31.69) joined ##slackware. [15:03] deco> Well, I'll just have to use it this way, without the : :P [15:03] Hello People. [15:03] B0BBY (n=bobby@76.249.229.126) left ##slackware. [15:03] errordeveloper: you have to compile such a kernel yourseldf [15:03] CONFIG_EFI_PARTITION=y [15:03] if slack's default doesn't you'll have to compiule your own colonel [15:04] fire|bird: :P, are you using opera's irc client ? [15:04] deco> it's really weird though, especially since it only happens here yet is fine in ##slackofftopic [15:04] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.31.69) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:04] deco> no, but I should try it there, that would then for sure confirm it's something in my irssi config [15:04] hm ..so i need to put my kernel an the bootloader on a flash-stick, right ? [15:04] fire|bird: yeah try different clients [15:04] do you really have >2TB disks? me is envious [15:05] fire|bird: if not then the shitlist messesed it up :( [15:05] deco: yeah [15:05] whoa, there we go. [15:05] hey [15:05] slackware_bob (n=slackwar@adsl-76-249-229-126.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] it was a different script. :P [15:05] Hello People. [15:05] causing it [15:05] oh lol [15:05] fire|bird: say my name [15:05] fluxbox setup. Now to whack kdm. [15:05] whats up with all the new folk in #slackware? [15:05] Action: slackytude waves his walking stick [15:05] deco: \o/ [15:05] get off my lan [15:05] fire|bird: yay ! \o/ [15:05] get off my wan -_- [15:06] Camarade_Tux: get off my bed [15:06] :P [15:06] alphad (n=alphad@41.207.31.69) joined ##slackware. [15:06] ='( [15:06] randux (n=nobody@unaffiliated/randux) joined ##slackware. [15:06] that's what she said [15:06] ok, the phone should have at least some battery power for the next one or two hours now [15:06] .... [15:06] deco, eh, you have to chase people from your bed? [15:06] my site got a france visit [15:06] =P [15:06] errordeveloper until the colonel has gpt enabled, it won't be able to understand the partition table [15:06] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@83.87.139.196) joined ##slackware. [15:06] guax: hmmmm? :P [15:06] slackytude: just Camarade_Tux [15:06] ahh [15:06] anybody else run slim? [15:06] yes [15:06] Camarade_Tux, and a japanese one [15:07] lol [15:07] guax: he :P [15:07] not me that time ;-) [15:07] slackware_bob: did at some point [15:07] Camarade_Tux: i would use my phone but it disconnectes my wifi... [15:08] deco: haha :P [15:08] Camarade_Tux: 2.4ghz :( [15:08] bad for wihi [15:08] wifi* [15:08] randux (n=nobody@unaffiliated/randux) left irc: Client Quit [15:08] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-162-151.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:09] deco: nah, actually that's because I was turning the micro wave oven on :) [15:09] Camarade_Tux: oh yeah , you wanted to cook that day... [15:09] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.174.218.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:09] fire|bird, weird (about fedora) [15:10] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-238-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:10] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-43-238-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:10] deco: :D [15:11] ciao deco [15:11] hi fire|bird [15:11] metrofox: ciao :) [15:12] metrofox: come stai ? [15:12] deco, bene grazie =) [15:12] :) [15:12] tu? [15:12] hi metrofox [15:12] metrofox: bene grazie [15:13] thrice`: yeah, it sure is. I'm going to try it again today, eliminate some things from install, so that maybe it will go faster, and then install them once install is done. [15:13] metrofox: i got to the part where i can connect my php scripts to mysql :P [15:13] :D deco sei bravo [15:13] :) [15:13] deco, is it hard? [15:13] metrofox: nah, very easy actually [15:13] what does it consist? [15:13] metrofox: just a couple of variables [15:13] ... in? [15:14] deco, ah ok! [15:14] deco, are you reading a book or a e-book? [15:14] metrofox: you just use the built in funtions... easy :P [15:14] ebook [15:14] functions* [15:14] sQuEE (n=narya@201.252.28.29) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [15:14] deco, can you link it please? =) [15:14] metrofox: pm ? [15:14] deco, if you want =) [15:14] fire|bird, I might try it out, now that you pointed the JFS point out [15:15] Kristho (n=kris@port149.ds1-kd.adsl.cybercity.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:15] I'm traveling for work next week, and was considering either ubuntu/fedora for the time [15:15] thrice`: yeah, aside from update speed (which I now solved too) it was really, really fast on the laptop. [15:16] fire|bird, I was going to try 11 after it released, but only grabbed the liveCD (which forces LVM + ext4 on you). that turned me off :> [15:17] thrice`: yeah, you can get by the lvm part, but not ext4, because all the live cd does is copy the cd image to the hdd, so you have no choice. [15:17] which sucks imo, because not everyone wants ext4 yet. [15:18] ext4 works fine here [15:19] fire|bird, agreed. I've had 2 ext4 failures so far, and will not touch it again [15:19] thrice`: If you do install Fedora, install yum-presto afterwords, and fastestmirror for that matter, it will make a big difference for updates. Presto uses deltarpms so it can just download the changes between packages. [15:19] aigon (n=rm@92.84.28.107) left irc: Client Quit [15:20] thrice`: yeah, I had ext4 on the laptop with Slack and Sabayon, I had no issues with it, but I'm using ext3 still. [15:20] I will be moving away from kde4 for now [15:20] I just cant take the abuse anymore [15:20] slackytude: xfce \o/ [15:20] altho 4.3.1 is a lot better [15:20] still not there yet, tho [15:20] fire|bird, aye ^-^ [15:21] brb [15:21] slackware_bob (n=slackwar@adsl-76-249-229-126.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:22] ViN86 (n=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FIVE-FIFTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [15:24] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:30] blue ray [15:30] sucks [15:30] debian ships on 9 dvds (4-5 binary, 4 source) and i bet slack 13 is the last that'll fit on 1 dvd [15:30] its da future, spook [15:31] hi folks, i am compiling awn-extras, get error that libpixman.1.la doest not exists but i get it in lib64/ if i linked in lib/ can i get i get problems with their functionality? [15:31] alphad (n=alphad@41.207.31.69) joined ##slackware. [15:31] ovnicraft: make sure the build scripts look in lib64 instead of lib [15:32] lowspeed (n=jh@cpe-075-183-106-088.triad.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:32] lowspeed (n=jh@cpe-075-183-106-088.triad.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [15:32] sloin (i=4e8889d1@gateway/web/freenode/x-qlnvlvifbqskqurw) joined ##slackware. [15:32] rg3, ok [15:33] slackytude: typical kdawson story [15:34] spook, if it was a typical kdwason story, microsoft would be blamed [15:35] I liked it [15:35] its a fascinating idea [15:35] Action: slackytude likesscifi ^-^ [15:36] rg3, i export ARCH with 64 param, then configure it [15:36] i need check Makefile? [15:37] knao (n=knao@adsl-dyn64.91-127-209.t-com.sk) left ##slackware ("good night"). [15:37] ovnicraft: i don't use slackware64, so i can't give you much more advice except that you shouldn't link stuff in lib from lib64; it's a dirty solution and a bad idea [15:38] ok [15:38] thx [15:39] slackware is truly a neat distrib! it satisfies my desire to tinker with stuff :) [15:40] ^-^ [15:40] off to tinker some more... [15:40] ovnicraft: you might need to tell awn-extra to look in the right dir for libpixman. (perhaps with libdir, but can't tell until I see what you are building) [15:41] BP{k}, Makefile got libdir with lib i changed with lib64, now configuring [15:42] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:43] good night [15:43] g4770 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [15:47] sloin (i=4e8889d1@gateway/web/freenode/x-qlnvlvifbqskqurw) left irc: "Page closed" [15:49] BP{k}, this is my output erorr http://pastebin.com/d20464f4a [15:50] whly (n=fish@d55-102.icpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:52] whly (n=fish@d55-102.icpnet.pl) left ##slackware. [15:53] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[16:04] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [16:05] wubbster (n=wubbster@24.206.157.137) joined ##slackware. [16:05] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@86.192.148.215) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:06] thrice`: fedora 12 beta rc2 is out today. :P [16:06] wubbster (n=wubbster@24.206.157.137) left irc: Client Quit [16:06] fedora comes out of beta? [16:06] I though fedora was the beta [16:06] haha [16:07] searching for jfs on fedora forums, it shows no results. [16:07] :\ [16:08] Could always ask more about it in #fedora though. [16:08] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:09] thrice`: out of curiosity, is jfs support a deal breaker, so to speak, with a distro? [16:09] good grief, still on 236/1098, my gosh. :P [16:09] real hardware install was much faster. [16:09] fire|bird, well, if I can't use jfs with fedora, I probably won't bother, so I guess so [16:10] Why have you chosen jfs? What benefits do you find with it? [16:10] I guess just preference. unlike ext4, it also doesn't consume my / partition with a power failure ;) [16:11] Does Ubuntu support jfs? :P [16:11] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-43-135-65.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:11] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-43-135-65.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:11] hvera (n=hamilton@200.251.188.130) joined ##slackware. [16:11] yes, definitely. fedora is the first I've encounted that does not [16:12] wow [16:12] Well, with that option passed, it's suppose to, but I've had bad luck with that option giving jfs as an option. [16:12] didn't work? [16:13] so, you may choose to install Ubuntu? If so, I'm e-mailing Fedora dev's for jfs support right away. :P [16:13] not when I tested last night, no. [16:13] doesn't it depend by kernel? [16:13] (sorry mi ignorance) [16:13] *my [16:13] I wonder if there isn't more to it than that though, I used to know when I used fedora, but I've since forgotten. [16:13] the main reason, I think, is that selinux doesn't support jfs [16:13] metrofox: Well, the kernel needs to have jfs support, yes. [16:14] ah, well so ;) [16:14] thrice`: yeah, hence that option which disables selinux on the installer. [16:14] I just remember there being something more to do to get it, but I can't recall and I can't find the link I used to have either. [16:14] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:16] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-238-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:16] Hmm, I just thought of something, I tried passing that option on the live cd, let me try it on the dvd. [16:16] i used to use jfs before ext4 was an option in the installer for slackware ebcasue ext3 filesystem checks take forever [16:17] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [16:17] esoteric (n=esoteric@c-67-186-216-208.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:18] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434533.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:19] ph1 (n=Warning@189.57.19.89) left ##slackware. [16:21] thrice`: Ok, it DOES have jfs support, ONLY the dvd supports it. \o/ [16:21] novacrust (n=Crust@72.12.184.33) joined ##slackware. [16:21] sladegen (n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen) joined ##slackware. [16:21] fire|bird, awesome :) thanks so much for checking. I'll start grabbing that tonight [16:22] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [16:22] So, boot the dvd, at the first screen of boot dvd, boot hard drive, etc. hit tab and add linux selinux=0 jfs to the line it gives there already. [16:22] fire|bird, check this out [16:22] if i install slackware 13 and do an update [16:22] akonadi fails [16:23] even after updating to kde 4.3.1 [16:23] now i jsut installed 13.0 and akonadi works [16:23] i upgraded to 4.3.1 and akonadi still works [16:23] thrice`: :) no problem, glad I could help out. I got the dvd in about 17 minutes yesterday, of course ymmv, but it's usually a quick download via torrent. [16:23] so has to be something in current causing the problem [16:24] maybe new sql package im thinking [16:24] Scuzz: Hmm, could be. It looked like, from earlier, vbatts was going to investigate it, so maybe there's something going on. I myself haven't had any issues with current + 4.3.2, 4.3.1 was fine as well, but 4.3.1 was on 13. [16:25] thats the thing [16:25] i think if i update now to current things will still work [16:25] I don't think mysql has been updated in -current at all, yet anyway, but I could be wrong. [16:25] althouhg i havnt yet [16:25] mikl0 (n=mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:25] i think it was in my upgrade [16:25] not sure when i made this iso [16:26] mikl0 (n=mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:26] ill update now to current [16:26] and see if i have any issues [16:26] the odd part is [16:26] wow, fedora install in the VM just flew up to 756/1098. It might get done today thrice`. :P [16:26] right after my install is done [16:26] current has a fix for mod_php and apache httpd, too. [16:26] hey thumbs [16:26] if i upgrade to current anakondi breaks [16:26] fire|bird: hola [16:26] sladegen (n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen) left ##slackware. [16:26] anybody have the vbatts download link handy for KDE 4.3? [16:27] before logging in as a user i mean [16:27] jsut google vbatts packages [16:27] it comes right up [16:27] k [16:27] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:27] neonflux: http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/kde/kde4-packages/ [16:28] fire|bird: thanks [16:28] yw [16:30] hi fire|bird [16:31] hi thumbs [16:31] hi fredoslack [16:31] i've got new pitcures [16:31] hi hi [16:31] pictures [16:31] my garden, and my mouses [16:31] can i post tje link here ? [16:31] the * [16:31] just one small link lol [16:32] well think you lol > http://www.premiumorange.com/fredoslack/chinatow/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=150 [16:32] these are my 2 mouses [16:33] mice [16:33] micce [16:33] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:34] yes * [16:34] sorry [16:34] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-105-248.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:35] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:36] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.82.129) joined ##slackware. [16:36] Nick change: KB1JWQ -> Sorthum [16:36] Nick change: Sorthum -> KB1JWQ [16:38] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:39] askhader (n=sayed@rn--ctm-1-1-a05.uwaterloo.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:39] How would I install the python-dev headers? [16:39] askhader: slackware has no -dev packages. [16:40] askhader: the python package in l/ will install the headers. [16:40] thumbs: So if I have python I have the headers? [16:40] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:40] askhader: I just said that, yes. [16:40] i dont understand you guys [16:40] mm, python isn't in d/ ? [16:40] how on earth do you remember that python is in L [16:41] my guess is d/ :) [16:41] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:41] thrice`: err, yes, sorry. [16:41] I've got $50 on thrice`s answer [16:41] Scuzz: I install slackware 20-30 times a year. [16:41] :P [16:41] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-43-135-65.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:41] haha [16:41] Scuzz: on different machines, that it. [16:41] I'm not going to look it up and confirm though, or it would ruin the suspense [16:41] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-135-65.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:41] s/it\./is\./ [16:42] gn every body, bye [16:42] night fredoslack [16:42] à tomorrow [16:42] =) [16:42] ;) [16:42] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-26-43.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:43] guys, I go to bed, see ya later/tomorrow [16:43] night metrofox [16:43] I shall be going off as well [16:43] night slackytude [16:43] europeans evacute the area [16:44] no drill [16:44] I have a new DELL 2950 waiting for slack13 in the office. [16:44] muahahaha [16:44] fire|bird, see ya, mate [16:44] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.94.55) left irc: "Leaving." [16:44] slackytude, we'll be back tomorrow :P [16:45] yeah, sure enuff [16:45] (muahahahahahaha evil laugh) [16:45] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72780.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "offski gonski" [16:45] see ya ; [16:45] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.168.140) left irc: "+-||\-" [16:49] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [16:50] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@d24-57-84-192.home.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] k i just upgraded my packages and still akonadi works now [16:50] vbatts, you still here ? [16:51] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:51] let me look [16:53] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Client Quit [16:58] slackware_bob (n=slackwar@adsl-76-249-229-126.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:58] Hello People. [16:58] ..... [16:59] ok, I have installed slim. It installed correct. Now, in /etc/rc.d/rc.4 I have copied the existing xdm entry and changed the values to run slim. It runs slim but when logging in, it errors out saying "Failed to execute login command". [17:00] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [17:00] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-155.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:00] Anyone here running slack 13 x86_64 and able to build ffmpeg using slackbuilds? [17:02] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.130.156) joined ##slackware. [17:03] veritos (n=veritos@swallow.ee.washington.edu) joined ##slackware. [17:03] <_guitarman_> Wescotte: have you updated/synced most current slackbuilds (if using sbopkg) [17:03] Has anyone tried using gcj-java to compile anything? I've just tried, and I can't even compile a "Hello world" program. [17:03] <_guitarman_> Wescotte: mine worked [17:03] This is 64-bit too (should be noted) [17:04] _guitarman_: not using sbopkg but I downloaded it from slackbuilds.org last night.. basically getting an error when running configure where it says it can't find libx264 but ldconfig shows it listed.. [17:04] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@83.87.139.196) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:04] <_guitarman_> Wescotte: hmmmm - did u put libx264 in with a slackbuilds script or did you put it in with ./configure [17:04] <_guitarman_> by yourself i mean [17:04] <_guitarman_> Wescotte: also - where is it /lib or /lib64 ... [17:05] _guitarman_: modified the variable in the slackbuild script to "yes" and it's in /lib64 [17:05] anyone know what the error "Failed to execute login command" means. And how to fix it? [17:06] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "caindo fora!!!!!!!" [17:07] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC30038.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [17:07] <_guitarman_> Wescotte: hmmm default is YES anyways [17:07] _guitarman_: oh heh well then I didn't modify that one.. my mistake.. [17:07] slackware_bob, what are you trying to run when it shows up? [17:08] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:08] skepsi (n=kvirc@gprs6.vodafone.cz) joined ##slackware. [17:08] <_guitarman_> Wescotte: yeah. also , are you sure you grabbed all deps? x264 requires yasm, etc etc. i find sbopkg is a little easier to resolve the deps vs doing it all through slackbuilds web site. [17:09] _guitarman_: yup I installed yasm off /extras before I even attempted to install x264 [17:09] veritos: using slim as login manager. Upon typing in correct username password, it gives that error and fails to start fluxbox. [17:10] slackware_bob, google gives me http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=53685 [17:10] veritos: googling show someone claiming that removing the lock file fixes it. Let me try that. 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[17:16] <_guitarman_> and yasm [17:16] sbopkg.org [17:17] <_guitarman_> http://www.sbopkg.org/ [17:17] <_guitarman_> Wescotte: then you know that its all coming from there and it should build proper... it worked for me and I am on Slack64 13.0 so it should work for you if you use sbopkg as well [17:18] Does anyone here use xmms2? [17:18] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [17:19] try audacious... better and being developed [17:19] try exaile [17:19] deco: Hmm. [17:20] I will try exaile [17:20] lmao2k (n=nothere@82.34.242.225) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:21] Is there any reason to keep htdig around if I'm not using it? I remember that KDE 3's documentation would use it for indexing, but I'm not sure that KDE 4 does the same. [17:23] its for websites isnt it ? [17:23] like site indexing or something [17:23] i dont think its used on a local filesystem [17:23] but im normaly worng [17:24] wrong for that matter [17:24] jinjii (n=alpha@93.45.45.2) left ##slackware. [17:24] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-353-1-51-254.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [17:24] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-434533.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:26] _guitarman_: there an easy way to pass ARCH=x86_64 for all packages? [17:26] _guitarman_: using this sbopkg.. [17:27] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:27] nachox (n=imarambi@190.216.26.210) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:31] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] Wescotte: Set it in your .profile [17:32] Wescotte: Or, rather, in root's profile [17:33] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:33] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:37] ie: in short .. read your shells manpage how to properly set up your enviroment variables. [17:38] howdy BP{k} [17:38] fire|bird: howdy :) [17:39] eviljames: just create a .profile and added ARCH=x86_64 ? [17:43] NAavi (n=navi@200.76.196.182) left ##slackware. [17:43] Wescotte: what is your shell? or perhaps rather, what's your root shell? [17:44] bash? [17:44] <_guitarman_> Wescotte: it just does it anyways from what I gather Wescotte [17:44] _guitarman_: huh? [17:44] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: "leaving" [17:44] uh, no it doesn't [17:45] <_guitarman_> fire|bird: why is it that I wasn't multilib and i never had to modify anything in sbopkg? [17:45] Wescotte: why do you ask me? .. it's *your* system, I don't know how*you* configured it. Nwo go and look .. and give a straight answer .. [17:45] BP{k}: I don't know :) I assume it's bash.. I've never changed it [17:45] ercula (n=ercula@97-116-166-43.mpls.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [17:45] BP{k}: and I dunno exactly how to change it or check what it is.. [17:46] archiebl3h (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:46] _guitarman_: I use sbopkg all the time, it's *never* picked up on my system being 64bit. I always get errors with it unless I specify 64bit. [17:47] slackware_bob (n=slackwar@adsl-76-249-229-126.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:47] Hello People. [17:47] ..... [17:47] <_guitarman_> fire|bird: that is so odd - i never got errors ever [17:47] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:47] veritos: Ok, that issue was no .xinitrc file in the home dir to tell slim what to run. [17:47] fire|bird: version of sbopkg? [17:47] <_guitarman_> fire|bird: and i never put in multilib right away - it just built for 64 [17:47] BP{k}: figured out that ffmpeg issue.. Well sorta.. I was using a more recent snapshot of x264 and ffmpeg didn't like that for some reason.. [17:48] _guitarman_: same here. [17:48] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@adsl-241-165-87.bna.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:48] _guitarman_: slackware is never multilib by default *anyway* [17:48] BP{k}: 0.30.1 iirc. I'm just booting the laptop now, so I'll double check. [17:50] fraktil (n=fraktil@96.247.230.83) joined ##slackware. [17:51] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.130.156) left irc: "Leaving." [17:51] leptom (i=1000@84.125.164.86.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:51] hi [17:52] vbatts: hi, are you there? [17:53] leptom: perhaps if you have a more general question, it would help asking the channel :) [17:54] well, it's about kde 4.3.2 that likes it's been compiled by him right now [17:54] leptom: yes, and you are the only one using it? ;) [17:55] lol [17:55] I only want to ask him if he can put a patch in Konsole before to compile [17:55] stig_ (n=stig@173.80-202-229.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [17:55] I'm not using it :) [17:55] slackware_bob (n=slackwar@adsl-76-249-229-126.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:56] leptom: whats up? [17:57] leptom: is the patch something like: "remove konsole and symlink it to Terminal"? ;) [17:57] leptom (i=1000@84.125.164.86.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:57] leptom (i=1000@84.125.164.86) joined ##slackware. [17:57] hi again [17:57] [21:56] ( vbatts) leptom: whats up? [17:57] Has anyone tried using gcj-java to compile anything? I've just tried, and I can't even compile a "Hello world" program. [17:57] thanks BP{k} [17:58] vbatts: there's a patch for a shift-tab bug in konsole [17:58] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157039 [17:58] ercula (n=ercula@97-116-166-43.mpls.qwest.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:59] I was to try it and see the message in your site. it said that you're compiling kde 4.3.2 and I want to ask you if you can patch kde-base [17:59] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:59] sorry my english (to all) [18:01] do you understand me? (more or less) [18:02] leptom: no need to apologize, your english is fine. :) [18:03] cityLights (n=cityLigh@bzq-84-111-46-251.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [18:03] leptom: what is your native language ? [18:03] spanish [18:03] k [18:04] hi all [18:04] hi cityLights [18:04] hello cityLights [18:04] http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/26654-Starcraft_player_charged_after_knife_attack :) [18:05] I downloaded a program and I am trying to make it [18:05] fire|bird, install done yet? ;) [18:05] so I ran ./configure [18:05] thrice`: just finished. :) [18:05] but I get: [18:05] *** Cannot configure in source tree. [18:05] cityLights: which program? [18:05] *** Make a parallel directory and configure there. [18:05] what should I do? [18:05] cityLights: which program? [18:06] gcc [18:06] and, yes it is special [18:06] you're trying to compile gcc? [18:06] so I must build it from source [18:06] cityLights: may I ask why? [18:06] yes this gcc is for symbian [18:06] so I can write a program for my phone [18:07] stig (n=stig@173.80-202-229.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:07] you should be able to base upon the slackbuild [18:07] does this mean I must use some option? [18:09] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [18:09] actually the slackbuild is overkill [18:09] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:10] so, how can I build gcc from source? [18:10] you just need to mkdir another directory, cd into that new directory and run configure from there (give the relative or full path to the configure script located in the gcc source) [18:10] askhader (n=sayed@rn--ctm-1-1-a05.uwaterloo.ca) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:10] you may run into other problems though, you'll probably have to wait and see [18:11] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [18:11] cityLights: what is the "triplet" for symbian? [18:11] (the architecture triplet) [18:12] no idea [18:12] where can I this info? [18:12] the file name is gcc-539-2aeh-source.tar.bz2 [18:13] it's what you have to give to configure for --target [18:13] I think that they provide their own toolkit that you can just download [18:14] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [18:14] http://developer.symbian.com/main/tools_and_sdks/developer_tools/critical/ [18:15] thanks [18:15] I mean I tried to follow the gnupoc and got lost very early [18:16] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:19] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:21] thrice`: only 6 updates after install. the dvd install really helps with that, doing updates during install. :) [18:21] cyborg-one (n=iceknigh@nas-12-039.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [18:21] fire|bird: they keep the dvd up to date ? [18:21] lol [18:22] deco: If you select the updates repo, it will do updates during install. [18:22] hrmmm [18:22] hrm [18:22] update repo ? [18:22] hey unixfool [18:22] i dont even recall seeing that option [18:22] hiya [18:22] bot been behaving? [18:22] fire|bird: oh [18:22] unixfool: yeah [18:23] great! [18:23] thx [18:23] you're welcome [18:23] go now [18:23] :) [18:23] deco: you first [18:23] fire|bird: say my name [18:23] Action: Camarade_Tux kickes both deco and fire|bird [18:23] oh you can now [18:23] I just did. [18:23] fire|bird: yeah [18:23] s/kickes/kicks/ [18:23] Action: fire|bird has unixfool kick Camarade_Tux. :P [18:23] lol [18:23] lol [18:23] Action: unixfool sets mode fire|bird +o [18:23] \o/ [18:23] :O [18:23] :P [18:24] o+, that is [18:24] lol [18:24] he can't, I'm mister happy face :) [18:24] Camarade_Tux: Once your kicked, you won't be happy for long. :) [18:24] Camarade_Tux: if you get kicked we can always meet at our spot... [18:25] the one under the bridge [18:25] bah, I can't find again the ##slackware stats page ='( [18:25] fire|bird: come on, kick me :P [18:25] freenodeslack.blogspot.com [18:25] deco: nah, I'll be crying all night long ='( [18:26] fire|bird: add Camarade_Tux to your shitlist [18:26] -fire|bird:##slackware- Camarade_Tux added to fire|bird's shitlist [18:26] :D [18:26] yay \o/ [18:26] Camarade_Tux isn't a sad person either, smiling 36.9% of the time. [18:26] deco: happy? [18:27] bah, that's pinky, looks so girly, doesn't surprise me fire|bird [18:27] What is pink? [18:27] fire|bird: yup :) [18:27] winstonw (n=winstonw@24.245.62.24) joined ##slackware. [18:27] -fire|bird:##slackware- Camarade_Tux removed from fire|bird's shitlist [18:27] Action: winstonw wants winter and deco [18:27] hey [18:27] Camarade_Tux: besides, thats your term colors, not my choice. ;) [18:27] i want j000 [18:28] kittboy! [18:28] fire|bird: not my term colors, the only good colors: white on grey [18:28] (maybe not pure white though) [18:28] grey on black [18:28] winstonw (n=winstonw@24.245.62.24) left ##slackware ("Kitteh goes bye bye"). [18:28] or grey on transparent [18:29] ouch! [18:29] macavity spoke a total of 377519 words! [18:29] macavity's faithful follower, silvergold, didn't speak so much: 349686 words. [18:29] Camarade_Tux: find the stats? [18:29] *that* hurts [18:29] I'm darn close to macavity though. :) [18:29] stats wise [18:29] 2nd most active. [18:29] fraktil (n=fraktil@96.247.230.83) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:30] fire|bird: is like idle most of the tim anyway [18:30] nnavii (n=root@200.76.196.182) joined ##slackware. [18:30] time* [18:30] not according to the stats I'm not. :) [18:30] esoteric: well, seems so :P [18:30] stats lie [18:30] ut oh, someone irc'ing as root, what a no no. :) [18:31] oh oh oh [18:31] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Leaving." [18:32] julm (n=julm@ANice-252-1-41-13.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:33] fire|bird: many different actually [18:33] and jeev at least a few times :P [18:34] i thought I told the bot to block that [18:34] may be old data [18:34] Refused telnet@c-68-33-193-204.hsd1.va.comcast.net (bad nick) [18:34] unixfool: I know you said you were gonna add another rule for it, but there have been a couple of people that came here that were root. [18:34] the 294-day period is pretty... large [18:35] that means my rule needs to be adjusted or another added [18:35] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:35] slackware_bob (n=slackwar@adsl-76-249-229-126.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:35] clear [18:36] Hello People. [18:36] fire|bird: im 46 \o/ musta been the cat stories... [18:36] what did you do with the cat this time? :o [18:36] fire|bird: oh waite where did i get that number ? [18:37] Action: Dominian slaps W|GGL|T [18:37] deco: I don't know, you tell me. :P [18:37] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:37] fire|bird: seriously i don't new where i got it O_O [18:37] know* [18:37] hey Dominian [18:38] ok, I should go to bed now, night :) [18:38] night Camarade_Tux [18:38] sup [18:38] Camarade_Tux: lock the room ;-) [18:38] Dominian: just got Fedora 11 in a VM [18:38] Action: Dominian slaps fire|bird [18:38] deco: third floor, stairs only, should be enough to keep anybody away ;) [18:38] ouch [18:38] fire|bird: I did that too.. 30 secs later I deleted it [18:38] Action: Camarade_Tux slaps fire|bird with Dominian [18:39] Action: slackware_bob slaps someone [18:39] haha, how come? [18:39] fire|bird: its a POS? [18:39] yum sucks imho [18:39] fair enough :) [18:39] the blue, it's because of the blue, my eyes! [18:39] it defaults to Gnome as well [18:39] slackware_bob: slap deco [18:39] Dominian: unless you use a kde live cd or the dvd. [18:39] Action: deco kicks fire|bird [18:39] fire|bird: yeah which is stupid [18:40] nnavii kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [18:40] but the blue, think of the children, how can anyone live with that? [18:40] Action: slackware_bob slaps and kicks for fire|bird and deco [18:40] he :P [18:40] that rule worked. :P [18:40] all in good fun, tho. [18:40] unixfool: yay it works now [18:40] Something tells me W|GGL|T got the rules fixed [18:40] yeah, seems the rule is ok ;) [18:40] deco: i think something is wrong...had to manually do that [18:40] W|GGL|T: oh [18:40] W|GGL|T: hehe slackboy definitely has "issues" [18:41] fire|bird: you're silvergold ? [18:41] Dominian: its a works in progress [18:41] deco: yeah [18:41] fire|bird: .... [18:41] he's been very neglected [18:41] slackboy is a teenager, he doesn't want to obey authority -_- [18:41] W|GGL|T: Yes.. he has [18:41] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:41] Camarade_Tux: he needs love [18:41] W|GGL|T: I'm glad the nickserv got sorted ;) [18:41] there's a slackboy? [18:41] deco: threesome? =) [18:41] Dominian: yeah, phrag actually was integral in that [18:41] yes [18:42] W|GGL|T: good good [18:42] W|GGL|T: When I noticed that I was like 'er... not good' [18:42] slackware_bob: yeah he's like so awesome [18:42] W|GGL|T: only person I could get a hold of was nachox hehe [18:42] Camarade_Tux: hmmm bed big enough ? [18:42] deco: smitten by him? [18:42] why doesn't KDE ever have underlined chars in captions for buttons. So darn annoying. [18:42] slackware_bob: i suggest you spend some time here without actually saying anythiing and you'll learn a lot [18:42] i'm also rusty as all hell with IRC now [18:43] deco: we dont' have to do that in a bed -_- [18:43] slackware_bob: after a while you can say something :) [18:43] deco: I would but I'm setting up a system which requires asking for help occassionaly. :) But I'm already learning quite a bit. [18:43] yeah, i would like one of the opers to actually have an account on the server, for some admin redundancy [18:43] deco: but if you're getting annoyed.... well I can try to minimize.... [18:44] slackware_bob: not getting annoyed ... just tried to suggest something [18:44] carry on ... [18:44] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [18:44] deco: :) [18:44] slackware_bob: :) [18:44] W|GGL|T: Well I'm available hehe [18:45] speaking of.. brb.. issues [18:45] you guys have issues with a guy named pozican? [18:45] yes [18:46] yesterday [18:46] dcc us [18:46] he got k-lined I think [18:46] W|GGL|T: he got k-lined [18:46] good...i just saw the logs [18:46] thanks for that update [18:46] W|GGL|T: klined [18:46] W|GGL|T: He was a DCC spammer [18:46] echo? :D [18:46] LOL [18:46] thrice`: I have that name hilighted [18:46] for obvious reasons.. [18:47] #freenode, ##linux, #debian, #ubuntu.. hit 'em all [18:47] They've been very presistant lately.. [18:47] damn [18:47] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.39.92) joined ##slackware. [18:47] W|GGL|T: Oh that's not the half of it.. [18:47] sup nachox ! [18:48] eh? [18:48] nachox: look who crawled out from under his rock!? [18:48] hey guys [18:48] W|GGL|T: that's only ONE of them [18:48] W|GGL|T: they've been hitting in small droves. [18:48] Dominian, weekend away from the city with the family of my father [18:48] nachox: not you [18:48] nachox: W|GGL|T [18:48] nachox: :P [18:48] ah, i saw him the other day [18:49] I never see him [18:49] so, what's the attraction with when he did? newish exploit? seems rather old to me, unless i've missed something recent [18:49] you might not see him, but he is always around hiding behind slackboy [18:49] cause he's like PV... he comes in.. talks for 20mins.. disappears for years ;) [18:49] lol [18:49] W|GGL|T: its the old dcc low port issue [18:49] W|GGL|T: routers/firewalls apparently still haven't been updated/corrected [18:49] it must be partially successful for people to still be using it, i guess [18:49] Dominian: ahh [18:49] W|GGL|T: I had one o fthem.. that I booted from #freenode.. start doing it to me in PM.. and he was like "SO HA HOW YOU LIKE THAT!?" and I'm like "er.. I'm still her and it doesn't work on me :)" "SHIT" *quit* [18:50] lol [18:50] lol [18:50] slackware_bob (n=slackwar@adsl-76-249-229-126.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:51] Anyone know how to adjust the size of widgets like a system tray? It's too damn wide.. [18:51] Dominian, what bug? [18:51] in kde4.. can't seem to figure it out.. [18:52] don't thehy autoscale to the panel height? [18:52] nachox: the DCC low port bug.. let me find the articles on it [18:52] not height but width.. [18:52] nachox: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit [18:52] that's a great article on it [18:52] veritos: hey, you were here earlier asking about gcj? [18:52] Wescotte: the width goes by how many items are in the tray. [18:53] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FF698.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [18:54] fire|bird: there are like 4 items but it's wide enough for like 4x as many.. It's over half the size of my bar right now [18:54] ah, lovely [18:54] Wescotte: have a screenshot of that? [18:54] aye [18:54] fire|bird: 1 sec.. [18:54] however, ther eis a umode which is +C that you can use to ignore all DCC/CTCP request [18:54] or just tell your irc clien to ignore CTCPs [18:55] Dominian, he did what. [18:55] actualyl I'mg going to restart X real quick to see if it's just a bug.. brb [18:55] ccfreak2k: read the articlde I linked. [18:55] ccfreak2k: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit [18:55] my old router used to be vulnerable to it years ago [18:55] fire|bird: re: your ARCH and sbopkg, what is the output of `uname -m` on your system? [18:55] anyway bbl [18:55] Dominian, oh, that old thing. [18:55] urban3, yes [18:56] Urchlay, that was for you [18:56] urban3, ignore the last [18:56] Dominian, dcc is used for more than file transfer by irc clients? [18:56] dcc chat [18:56] slakmagik: x86_64 I tried building pcmanfm, which went well, but I've tried building other things (I can't recall exactly which atm) that gave errors unless I specified x86_64 for the arch. [18:57] pyro1 (n=aluno@201-77-115-25.desktop.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:57] fire|bird: Ah, lost the task manager widget so everything just filled up the extra space.. [18:58] Wescotte: Ok. It's all fixed now? :) [18:58] well, that isn't something that should fluctuate - all sbopkg does is check that output and set ARCH accordingly. If you have problems in the future, try to note what packages and what happens and report it as a bug. [18:58] veritos: gcj --main=hello -o hello hello.java [18:58] fire|bird: but there isn't a way to force my tray to be smaller? [18:58] Urchlay, ah [18:58] slakmagik: will do. Thanks. :) [18:58] veritos: you have to tell the compiler which class contains the public static void main method... [18:58] Wescotte: no [18:58] silly, when you're only compiling one class, but there you have it [18:58] fire|bird: hmm couldn't you do that in kde3.x/ [18:58] ? [18:59] not that I know of, no. [18:59] Urchlay, wait, compiling is not to bytecode by default? [18:59] no [18:59] I had thought that "-o hello.class" would cause it to compile to bytecode, but that doesn't work (hello.class ends up being a native executable) [19:00] looks like -C [19:00] -C This option is used to tell gcj to generate bytecode (.class files) [19:00] yeppers [19:00] I just gave up and decided to use the 'real' JDK [19:00] thanks anyway, though [19:01] although i do appreciate the java-compiled-to-native-code [19:01] I'm sorta wondering, when you use gcj to compile to native code, does it really even perform any better, other than maybe startup time [19:02] Urchlay, you probably also shave a small amount of time for first time used functions. [19:02] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-214-024.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:02] What with the JVM being JIT and all. [19:02] Urchlay: the jvm should be able to be faster [19:02] except for startup of course [19:02] ccfreak2k: that, and doesn't the jvm do lazy class loading? [19:03] That, I don't know of. [19:03] Native has the advantage of not being run in a vm, though. [19:03] That might be worth something. [19:03] the jvm doesn't really use a vm anymore actually... [19:04] right, what I was wondering though, is if the native code just contains a bunch of calls to functions that would normally be found within the vm (but are linked with the executable instead) [19:05] In the case of gcj, I think it uses a library (libgcj or something). [19:05] that's what you end up with in perl, using various "perl to C" utilities (an executable that either contains an entire perl interpreter, or just the parts of it that are actually used maybe) [19:05] not sure but I guess the function can't come out of the blue [19:05] s/function/functions/ [19:05] libgcj.so.9 [19:06] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:06] Urchlay: hmmm, that's a bit different, that when C has to call C libraries [19:06] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders if he really understood what Urchlay meant [19:07] alphad_ (n=alphad@41.207.31.100) joined ##slackware. [19:08] Camarade_Tux: I was wondering if libgcj.so basically is the VM, and the "native" executable is really just the bytecode in an array, plus a main() that calls the vm code from libgcj with the bytecode as an argument... [19:09] nnavii (n=root@200.76.196.182) joined ##slackware. [19:09] hi, how can i uninstall apache? [19:09] fire|bird: oh, one more question: did you find out what version you were using? And errors have happened with that version, not some older ones? [19:10] W|GGL|T: yeah, it's not working yet ^^ [19:10] slakmagik: Yeah, 0.30.1 for sure for everything. [19:10] nnavii: it's part of the base install (as "httpd") [19:10] okay, thanks [19:10] you're welcome [19:10] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:10] Urchlay, I would assume, if compiled to native, libgcj contains the functions that the VM would normally export. [19:10] nnavii, look at the 'removepkg' utility. also remember to look in /var/log/removed_scripts/* and revert the changes if you want [19:11] glups, libgcj.so is 45MB [19:12] MJSthat (n=root@adsl-67-65-248-155.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:12] gcj -o hello.s -g -S hello.java [19:12] Urchlay: hard to say [19:12] If this keeps up, we should move this to #sbopkg, but I had one random thought: is your sbopkg.conf clean and new? No stale ARCH=foo line in there? [19:12] fire|bird: ^ [19:12] hello.s is assembly source, should be instructive to read that [19:13] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:13] lmao2k (n=nothere@82.34.242.225) joined ##slackware. [19:13] if i type removepkg httpd, only remove apache files [19:13] slakmagik: yes, this was a clean install of slack64 13 and installed sbopkg 0.30.1, so no upgrading or anything to leave old things behind. [19:13] MJSthat (n=root@ , ithgouht the bot was fixed [19:14] Scuzz: No, it isn't yet. [19:14] lol [19:14] so i noticed [19:14] lol [19:15] nnavii, yes, it won't touch anything shared between apache and other packages [19:15] the asm source appears to contain the bytecode as a bunch of .byte, .long, .quad, etc. directives. Interesting. [19:15] nnavii, it will also leave configuration files in /etc, an empty dir in /var/log/httpd, and possibly other stuff. [19:15] nnavii, you shouldnt be on irc as root [19:16] after removing the package, check out /var/log/removed_packages/httpd-* to see what remains [19:16] heh, I think I'm going to 'export IRCNAME=root' in my .bash_profile for my non-root user, just to annoy people in here... [19:16] MJSthat (n=root@adsl-67-65-248-155.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:16] fire|bird: okay - well, I haven't heard this before but that's not supposed to happen so, like I say, if you catch it again, reporting specifics would be great and we'll see about figuring it out. [19:16] ok thanks [19:17] v4nelle (n=van@adsl77-146.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:17] Urchlay, hehe. i've a friend surnamed root (ya rly). he'll get a kick out of it [19:17] i come back in a normal acount [19:17] nnavii (n=root@200.76.196.182) left ##slackware. [19:18] well, really going to bed now, good night :) [19:18] Camarade_Tux: getting annoying now [19:18] :P [19:18] veritos (n=veritos@swallow.ee.washington.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [19:18] slakmagik: yeah, will do. I'll be building some things here in a bit anyway, so will keep track of errors, if any. [19:19] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:20] Scuzz: the channel rules have changed [19:20] slackie (n=x@cb-217-129-172-195.netvisao.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:20] They don't mind someone joining as root, because as I was told, that is possibly the only account a new user has on his system. [19:20] ElsieAnd100monke (n=mike@adsl-67-65-248-155.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:20] john_dee (n=id@93-81-137-37.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:20] And if he can't join as root, how will you help him. [19:20] ElsieAnd100monke (n=mike@adsl-67-65-248-155.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:21] if he installed lsackware im sure he can make a user account [19:21] Scuzz: you didn't read it well enough ... [19:21] ElsieAnd100monke (n=mike@67.65.248.155) joined ##slackware. [19:21] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [19:21] Nick change: ElsieAnd100monke -> MJSthat [19:21] hahha [19:21] k [19:21] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [19:21] When you install Slackware you are not asked or told to create a normal user account. [19:22] thats the thing [19:22] slackware assumes your smart [19:22] and doesnt ask stuipid questions [19:22] What would be stupid about telling someone to create a normal user account/ [19:23] If that is stupid, then you have no need to create one. [19:23] That would be _smart_ to tell someone during the install to create a normal user account. [19:23] It would be helpful. [19:23] well i preffer creating my own vesus something like ubuntu where my user is god [19:24] but i see your point [19:24] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [19:24] doesnt root user get a mail telling them to create a normal user? [19:24] There are installers which prompt you to create a normal user account, and you give the name and passwd. [19:24] I think it is a good thing, and should be in the Slackware installer as well. [19:24] tank-man: I was just reading through that message. [19:24] I'm not sure, but I also thought so. [19:25] alphad (n=alphad@41.207.31.69) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:25] wubbster (n=wubbster@24.206.157.137) joined ##slackware. [19:25] tank-man: But not many of the new type of users we get would know how to read root's mail. [19:25] Now that Slackware is so stinking point-and-click user friendly, we're getting a lot of real goobers. [19:25] well, i remember after install, i was at a prompt that said I have new mail [19:25] Reticenti (n=reticent@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:25] <-- goober [19:25] but at leaste im learning [19:25] Navii_ (n=hduvaz@200.76.196.182) joined ##slackware. [19:26] for me slackware was an experiment to see if i could go on without windows [19:26] and it suited my needs jsut fine [19:26] i got a mkinitrd question....do all the binaries i want on rd image have to be a symlink in ./initrd-tree/sbin? [19:27] almost anything i did in windows that involved illegal app downloads i could find an open source app that could accomplish the same task [19:27] alphad__ (n=alphad@41.207.31.115) joined ##slackware. [19:27] tank-man: and when it said you have new mail, what did you do? [19:28] The only thing in Slackware 13.0's root mail from Pat concerning this says: Running this as root will set the system default while running it as a normal user will only set the window manager for that user. [19:29] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:30] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.144) joined ##slackware. [19:30] MJSthat: Are you trying to do something more than just make an initrd to load modules before mounting / ? [19:30] guys, any suggestions on a light wieght monitoring system [19:30] packeteer: monitoring system stats? [19:30] ram + disk + network [19:30] GKrellM [19:30] nachox: yes [19:31] for remote server [19:31] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) joined ##slackware. [19:31] mingdao, i typed mail [19:32] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:33] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:33] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [19:33] hmm, i might just use sysstat for now [19:33] ming, yeah i want to incorp. splashy....to get it up and splashing faster.... [19:34] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:34] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [19:35] so i'll deff. need the bin in there but ./initrd-tree/sbin is full of symlinks to busybox...i'm wondering if creating the symlink is mandatory to get a binary into the rd image [19:36] gnubien (n=e@58.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:36] alphad__ (n=alphad@41.207.31.115) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:36] i've been googling the overall problem for like two days...so any help is much appreciated [19:37] eido (n=eeepc@ool-457e25d7.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] fatalnix1995 (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [19:39] and i deff. don't want to recompile busybox with splashy hammered in [19:39] MJSthat: I'm not familiar with this ... do you mean a boot splash image, or something else? [19:40] yeah it's a boot splash app [19:40] Have you searched the Slackware forum at LQ? [19:41] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/splashy-with-slackware-can-it-be-done-574090/?highlight=boot+splash [19:41] alphad_ (n=alphad@41.207.31.100) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:41] damn the obvious stuff.... :); [19:42] thnx for reminder though i'm bound to be there for a while [19:42] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.73.234) joined ##slackware. [19:42] Last post on that page is from alienBOB [19:42] I uploaded a splashy package to my repository. [19:42] I'd start there. ;) [19:42] kk [19:43] If alienBOB has a package, there is usually some README in it's directory, or in his ChangeLog. [19:43] right on [19:43] Get as far as you can, then ask him in here if you need more help. [19:43] I'm sure he can get you over the hump. [19:44] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:44] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.144.26) joined ##slackware. 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[20:06] bad [20:07] very bad [20:07] hey MLanden, how are you? [20:07] MLanden: 1905 edman007> quick, i rm'd tar, how do i get it back without rebooting? [20:07] youch ~_@ [20:07] did you removepkg tar, or rm /bin/tar? [20:07] if the latter, you should still have /bin/tar-1.13 [20:07] Urchlay, i did rm -rf /usr/* [20:08] ouch [20:08] woah [20:08] OUCH [20:08] i ctl-c when it was in libexec [20:08] but... tar lives in /bin, not in /usr/bin [20:08] so everything i need is in the slackware packages [20:08] yeah, just create another symlink for tar [20:08] ln -s /bin/tar /usr/bin/tar or sommitz [20:09] alright, well i lied, upgradepkg is complaining about `rev` [20:09] what is that and where can i get it? [20:09] /usr/bin/rev [20:09] doin' better,fire|bird.....had an older dvd burner crap out on me [20:09] rev just flips stuff last to first [20:09] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:09] util-linux-ng package [20:09] Urchlay, got a 64-bit version? can you dcc it to me? [20:09] julm_ (n=julm@ANice-252-1-35-253.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [20:10] don't think dcc ever works when I try it... lemme check [20:10] hm, guess it does work, cool [20:11] !sdrawkcab s'ti esuaceb siht daer nac ydobon [20:12] alright, thanks, i think its working [20:12] :D nac I [20:12] what's small command to get the block device of the root parition? [20:12] Action: edman007 tries reinstalling coreutils [20:12] but you can't read this, it's double-backwards! [20:12] orf ym skcor erawkcals [20:12] if i can get that in i think i'm good [20:13] what package is find in? [20:13] byte, mount? [20:13] julm (n=julm@ANice-252-1-41-13.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:14] edman007: findutils [20:14] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.39.92) left irc: Connection timed out [20:14] edman007: if you have a working grep, you can check /var/log/packages for stuff like that [20:14] if you don't have a working grep, eh, it's in the grep package :) [20:14] i have a problem when i try to star xcfe, i install again slack13 but when i enter to my account and type startx, it can't start? [20:15] i got upgradepkg working [20:15] use xfce instead? j/k. did you wun wmconfig or sommitz? [20:15] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:15] now i'll just go throw the basics and then tell slackpkg to reinstall everything i have [20:15] edman007: cd /var/log/pacages; upgradepkg --reinstall * # something like that? [20:15] edman007: How can I see what files are contained in a package and how can I find [20:15] the package that installed a certain file? [20:16] er, s/pac/pack/, you know... [20:16] Urchlay, yea...but slackpkg should do it for me :) [20:16] eido (n=eeepc@ool-457e25d7.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:17] grep "sbin/fdisk" /var/log/packages/* would quickly tell you that that file came from the: util-linux-ng-2.14.1-i486-1 package. [20:17] slackpkg clean_up_my_mistakes [20:17] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [20:18] byteframe: can you clarify? [20:19] actually a "reinstall-all" might not be a bad option for slackpkg to have [20:20] mingdao, I'm writing a script that needs to know the block device used for the root partition. If I could deference the /dev/root symlink... [20:21] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.144.26) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:21] or look in mount [20:21] straterra, mount displays /dev/root [20:21] or df even [20:21] uh.. [20:21] mancha, same. [20:21] then thats likely a symlink [20:22] ls -l /dev/root [20:22] because for some reason it's now a symlink [20:22] readlink /dev/root [20:22] mancha, thanks. just found that in linuxquestions/. [20:22] why is it now like that btw? [20:22] do they quote me? [20:23] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [20:24] check the 13.0 changelog from Apr. 21 [20:24] mancha: no, they said RTFM "man mancha" [20:25] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.73.234) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:25] thrice`: why is it needed? [20:25] john_dee (n=id@93-81-137-37.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [20:26] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.144) left irc: "... Leaving , was still at work..." [20:26] got me :) I've not seen it anywhere else [20:26] just pointing it is slackware specific [20:26] I read it in there, but didn't read why. [20:26] Yes. [20:27] on some slackware box I had, I'd type "mount" and it'd tell me /dev/root was mounted on /, but there was no actual /dev/root in existence [20:27] ...i'm gonna need to do a LOT of recompiling.... [20:28] lowspeed (n=jh@cpe-075-183-106-088.triad.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:28] lowspeed (n=jh@cpe-075-183-106-088.triad.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:28] dogsoul (i=doggy@root.slackbox.org) joined ##slackware. [20:29] walmartshopper (n=walmarts@cpe-67-49-213-45.bak.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:29] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.159.132) left irc: "Saliendo" [20:31] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [20:32] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:32] thrice`: with a few theme changes, but: http://omploader.org/vMmppMQ [20:34] fire|bird: :O i had the same wallpaper [20:35] slackware_bob (n=slackwar@adsl-76-249-229-126.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:35] Hello People. [20:35] <[yop]> hello you [20:36] slackpkg upgrade-all upgrades instaled pckgs? [20:36] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:36] heya ,slackware_bob [20:36] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.159.132) joined ##slackware. [20:37] installed packages that are part of slackware, yes [20:37] slackware_bob: only official Slackware packages ... man slackpkg can help you out [20:37] alisonken1home: ok, part of slackware meaning that were installed during the install? And from mirrors? [20:38] fire|bird: How's the weather in your neck of the woods? Any snow? [20:38] slackpkg can remove third party packages [20:38] mingdao: man will be the next stop. :) [20:38] I've often said ##slackware is for people who can't or are too lazy to RTFM ;) [20:38] mingdao: true. :). [20:38] slackware_bob: part of slackware meaning that it came on the slackware cd/dvd (or in the official slackware mirror) yes [20:39] MLanden: 34F atm, It was lightly snowing earlier. [20:39] mingdao: altho, not lazy just int he middle of reading other parts and discovering new commands. [20:39] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:39] alisonken1home: thanks. [20:39] :) [20:39] fire|bird: ouch...jack o' lantern vs jack frost...lol [20:40] haha, yeah, no doubt. [20:41] fire|bird, nice, is that xfce? [20:42] (the host, not guest) [20:42] thrice`: yeah, host is xfce. [20:42] nice, I like the theme [20:42] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:43] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.159.132) left irc: "Saliendo" [20:43] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.159.132) joined ##slackware. [20:44] thrice`: gtk is Nodoka Midnight, window decoration is Minsta Black. [20:46] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [20:46] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.159.132) left irc: Client Quit [20:47] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:47] anyone in the state of new york? i got a funny one for you [20:48] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.159.132) joined ##slackware. [20:48] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:49] j0z (n=JESUS@189.58.2.251.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:49] fire|bird, is that alltray running on the xfce host? [20:50] nyRednek: say it anyway [20:50] nyRednek: Quiznos was the only other New Yorker and he got klined. [20:50] not a good omen for nyRednek [20:51] Don't let that effect you at all, though. [20:51] deco, this misdameanor i'm fighting, is ny state vehicle and traffic law 415a subsection 5a [20:51] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.159.132) left irc: Client Quit [20:51] He wasn't klined for being from NY [20:51] he finally got the k-line? [20:51] nyRednek: ah ok [20:51] i was driving a general freight vehicle, dry van...the law is written specifically concerning signage on a salvage vehicle [20:52] esoteric: no, I don't have that running atm. [20:52] and it is a class a misdameanor [20:52] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.159.132) joined ##slackware. [20:52] You are a Redneck, which catapults you above such odious behavior. [20:52] avs_ (n=avs@201.78.170.80) joined ##slackware. [20:52] i'll move to dismiss with the argument that that particular law in the violation did not apply to me [20:54] in other words, the law was written about trucks hauling scrap cars, not clorox bleach(what i was hauling) [20:54] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [20:54] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:54] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [20:54] nyRednek: where do you hail from to add Rednek to your nick? [20:54] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@71.203.84.103) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [20:55] mingdao, originally, southeast arkansas [20:55] cool [20:55] When using gnu make, how can I dump -all- messages generated by gcc to a file? [20:55] originallm MS [20:55] mingdao, now, richmond co, ny [20:55] I have been to rural New York, there are plenty of rednecks up there [20:55] :D [20:55] this legal thing is going down in dutchess co, ny [20:55] is anyone using slackpkg on a 10.2 system? [20:55] diven, richmond co isn't rural [20:56] I have been in the buffalo area [20:56] richmond co is a bit east of that [20:56] and south [20:56] I was staying in Lockport [20:57] diven, well, two months ago, i was living in kings co [20:57] Dominian, you aren't at liberty to disclose why Quiznos was klined? [20:57] so i just crossed a bridge [20:57] I dont know the counties, I was just up there for a few weeks [20:57] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:57] but I did see the Erie Canal [20:57] diven, kings co==brooklyn...richmond co==staten island [20:57] I don't think anyone suspected it was because he lives in NY. Most especially since he was in FL at the time. ;) [20:58] nyRednek, gotcha [20:58] Two different languages, he, nyRednek? ;) [20:58] mingdao: Unfortunately, no. I am not. [20:58] mingdao, two names for same places [20:58] I thought so. [20:58] no, the local dialects is what I mean nyRednek [20:59] mingdao, yeah... [20:59] i ride a boat a lot these days [20:59] Brooklyn and Staten Island English are ... both strange to a southern redneck [20:59] mingdao, not really [20:59] I like to hear guys from Brooklyn get really mad and go off on somebody. [21:00] mingdao, bronx guys are more amusing [21:00] yeah [21:00] mingdao, manhattan idiots just walk off [21:00] Well, you can have all those overpopulated places for yourself. [21:00] mingdao, i really pissed off a chassidic(holier than thou) guy today [21:00] mingdao, just google around for some freenode logs... you'll get your answer [21:00] Too dang many people in too small a space for me. [21:00] mingdao, it was epic [21:01] Hassidic even [21:01] esoteric: ? [21:01] FreeNode is logged? [21:01] irclinux.org, for example [21:01] mingdao, i grabbed him by the sleeve and demanded that he teach me torah...he smiled, until i started laughing [21:02] mingdao, he happened to frequent one of the channels being tracked [21:02] deco (n=deco@69.108.88.254) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:02] this was at penn station [21:03] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] it was epic...wish i had my video camera [21:03] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] nyRednek: he call you mishugina (crazy)? [21:04] hvera (n=hamilton@200.251.188.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:04] MLanden, no, he said something about shaygatz... [21:05] MLanden, and something else about the erev rav [21:06] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:06] esoteric: I'm curious, but not enough to expend energy on a search for it. [21:06] in other words, he thinks i'll have a long stay in gehennah [21:07] mingdao, i know what you mean. I just remember him helping me quite a bit a long time ago... that's why I was curious. [21:07] esoteric: iirc, it isn't the first time for him, so he'll probably be back [21:07] I seem to remember him from a few years ago. [21:08] v4nelle (n=van@adsl77-146.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:09] pyro1 (n=aluno@201-77-115-25.desktop.com.br) left irc: "Leaving." [21:09] lol,nyRednek [21:10] xdoctor (n=avs@201.78.157.128) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:10] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-135-65.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:12] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-135-65.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:13] julm_ (n=julm@ANice-252-1-35-253.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "drop dead" [21:15] so i was just introduced to "Port" wine. this is some tasty stuff. [21:15] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.35.158) joined ##slackware. [21:15] Blasphemy in the house of beers and ales [21:16] you know? for someone like me this http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/13/maradona_defacement/ is extremely funny [21:16] antiwire: lol. [21:16] spook: you around/ [21:16] ^? [21:17] antiwire: dude, i kegged my Red Irish ale... Damn that was good. It's all gone though, i took it to my dropzone. :P [21:17] awesome [21:17] I'll brew it up again for sure though. [21:17] MLanden, he knew that i was screwing with him upon my laughter(it's a prophecy that in the redemption, goyim will pull at jewish sleeves to learn torah) [21:17] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:19] maciuszek (n=maciusze@i209-195-85-142.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [21:20] i've heard about that,nyRednek [21:20] hey im pretty new to slackware. and wondering if changing the desktop enviroment to gnome 2.28 is a good idea? using kde now btu i like gnome alot more [21:20] any potentional problems can arise? [21:21] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:21] i am no longer gothic i have seen the light http://omploader.org/vMmppZg [21:22] antiwire: well Port kind of has a after effect like Brandy. It makes you warm. :D [21:22] deco, a cathedral, how quaint [21:22] I can't do wine [21:22] it gives me headaches [21:22] awesome,deco...do you know the location? [21:22] lol [21:22] is that because you are listening to laura pausini deco? [21:22] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [21:22] my parents and brother are all into wine. I stick to beer [21:23] maciuszek: maybe start here: http://www.gware.org/about/ && http://gnomeslackbuild.org/ [21:23] antiwire: all wines? what have you tried? [21:23] mmmmmm beer [21:23] agentc0re: yup [21:23] i just noticed the pastebin widget , its kinda handy [21:23] dissociative (n=ubuntu@adsl190-28-149-135.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [21:23] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:23] Scuzz: widget? where? [21:23] under developmeant [21:23] huh? [21:23] The headache part aside, I just don't like wine [21:23] in your add widgets [21:24] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:24] Scuzz: where? what app? [21:24] kde [21:24] I dont know why but slackware 13.0 x86 sometimes lockups on my machine like most of time and I have to do a hard reboot [21:24] agentc0re: and because darkness takes a toll on one's soul [21:24] add widgets [21:24] Scuzz: doh. no KDE here. [21:24] lol [21:24] its nice though [21:24] deco, that form of light takes a deeper toll [21:24] it seems to lockup when dolphin is launched from xterm [21:24] jsut drop a file onto it and it uploads it to pastebin and gives you the url [21:24] or something [21:24] nyRednek: lies [21:25] Scuzz: I'll pass [21:25] Scuzz: just in case you didn't realize it...., not everybody uses KDE... [21:25] deco, truth...if you don't follow the path that is natural for you, and you despise the path you follow, but follow out of fear, do you truly think you'll avert punishment? [21:25] so i noticed [21:26] nyRednek: but the problem i have is i don't know what path to follow :( [21:27] the path less traveled [21:27] s/i/is [21:27] follow the long path off a short pier [21:27] deco, further, if you commit good works out of desire for reward as opposed to out of your own desire to do it, the motivation disgraces the works [21:27] follow Jesus Christ ... all other roads have bad ends [21:27] here we go [21:28] heh [21:28] time to leave [21:28] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [21:28] mingdao, when i see xtians nailing themselves to crosses to actually follow their dead guy on stick, i'll believe that hypocrisy is gone from that bastard faith [21:28] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [21:29] mingdao, or, small things, like doing what their magician told them to do [21:29] nyRednek: you're not responsible for what other people do, only for what you do. [21:29] mingdao, here's the thing...to follow yoshke, you are to follow after his example, no? [21:29] nyRednek: wise words... [21:30] sorry, religion/philosophy hour has just ended. Now STFU about that crap. [21:30] wasn't an hour.... [21:31] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "Leaving" [21:32] deco, and no, i'm neither goth nor satanist [21:32] k [21:32] deco, nor any of the left hand paths [21:35] danc3: i see the comedy in that but i wouldn't mind see a demo breakdown for the slackers applied to religion/philosophy [21:35] When using make, how can I dump -all- messages generated by gcc to a file? [21:36] make 2>&1 | tee BUILD.log [21:36] Perfect. [21:37] metriccw1ench (n=ii@ppp-71-142-151-32.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:38] ok this 100% CPU youtube video stuff is starting to piss me off [21:38] Welcome to flash + linux [21:38] grrrr [21:39] if anyone knows of a fix, please share; it drives me nuts too [21:39] I have a question regarding RAID [21:39] metriccw1ench: ok [21:39] is there any recommended way to assemble and mount the array at boot time? [21:39] has anyone had any luck with gnash? [21:39] mdadm will do it [21:40] right, but I'm asking is there a startup script that will do it for me, or do i have to add "mdadm --assemble --scan" to rc.local or some such nonsense and then mount it? [21:40] hoobop: it's not worth using [21:41] that's what i was afraid of... [21:41] still alpha [21:41] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-43-135-65.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:41] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-135-65.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:42] although adobe flash on linux is a mess [21:42] metriccw1ench: README_RAID.TXT in the Slackware source will answer all your questions. Just follow that guide, then if you get stuck, ask. [21:43] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65219ed.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [21:44] BP{k}: is there some kind of advantage over doing it like this: make &> BUILD.log ? [21:45] MJSthat (n=mike@67.65.248.155) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:46] dissociative (n=ubuntu@adsl190-28-149-135.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:47] madnex (n=madnex@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:47] esoteric: yes, by passing it to tee, you get to see it both echoed to the screen and to the file. [21:48] BP{k}: cool -- just curious [21:49] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:51] mingdao: I read the entire thing, but my array is not the root filesystem. I just want to assemble and mount an array on e.g. /mnt/raid [21:52] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@174-23-253-78.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving." [21:52] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [21:54] metriccw1ench: I fail to see the problem. [21:54] metriccw1ench: You are not required to use RAID on a particular mount point, such as root. [21:54] maciuszek (n=maciusze@i209-195-85-142.cia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:54] What's the usual syntax for creating, for example, foolib.so from foolib.so.9? [21:54] ln -s :P [21:55] Action: nachox nods to straterra [21:55] metriccw1ench: I have / /boot and swap all as RAID arrays. [21:55] mingdao: When i reboot the system, I have to log in and run "mdadm --assemble --scan" and then mount the device (in this case, md0). [21:55] No [21:56] metriccw1ench: Maybe you didn't understand the README_RAID.TXT file. [21:57] metriccw1ench: Just create a RAID array for whatever partitions you desire. [21:57] mingdao: apparently not. I'm running raid-1 with no problems, so what have I done wrong that the device is not automatically mounted on reboot? [21:58] metriccw1ench: search me ... or give me ssh and root on your box ;) [21:58] metriccw1ench: what about your LILO configuration? [21:58] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.159.132) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:58] http://pastebin.com/ma2c958e [21:59] what can i do? [21:59] mingdao: I didn't change that as it's not the root filesystem. Is that where my problem lies? [21:59] thats one fubar video setup [21:59] I added the line to fstab, but it does nothing because every time i reboot i have to assemble the array before mounting [21:59] dissociative (n=ubuntu@adsl190-28-152-47.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [22:00] Navii_: module does not exist <- make them exist [22:05] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:06] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:07] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:10] dragonmst (n=dragonms@67.110.215.238.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [22:11] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [22:11] fire|bird, you here? [22:12] If I am going to install a 3rd party java package, where should I put that? When I instlaled the java jdk I installed the extra package included on the slackware 13 dvd. [22:12] In particular I am installing the apache commons io package [22:13] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. 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[22:31] powtrix: had to wiki that one ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_%28CPU_architecture%29 [22:31] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:33] ok, my defense is almost ready [22:33] hm [22:34] night all [22:34] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.35.158) left irc: "Leaving" [22:37] user2438 (n=user4592@adsl-99-139-140-183.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:37] #Gware [22:37] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [22:37] user2438 (n=user4592@adsl-99-139-140-183.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:37] is it safe yet? [22:37] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:37] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [22:37] yes,antiwire...quiet at the moment [22:37] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left ##slackware. 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[22:52] damn man does mozilla suck ram on linux too or what [22:53] on windows, it's taking 600 megs of ram, thunderbird 210, pidgin 100 [22:53] bah [22:53] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:53] thats why I got 8GB of ram, so I don't have to worry about it [22:54] i got 12. [22:54] it just bogs if it's been open for a couple days [22:54] i have 16 [22:54] nah i have 4 [22:54] ViN86, we're not talking about different types of STD's. [22:54] jeev: well firefox gave me those too [22:55] mine is bigger than yours, boy; mine is bigger than yours ... [22:55] who gives a rip ;) [22:55] i just wanted in on the one-uppery [22:55] hugo1123 (i=hugo1123@server1.bshellz.net) left irc: K-lined [22:55] anyone use MPI? [22:55] my box with 512MB is configured well so I don't have those problems ;) [22:55] ViN86: a little bit [22:56] twolf: im lookin into it for a cluster [22:56] what do you run it on? slack13 x86? x64? [22:57] ViN86: the cluster we used it on was using caos-nsa linux with perceus [22:58] twolf: oh, any reason i cant run it on slack? [22:58] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:58] ViN86: no reason at all, caos just makes it idiot proof to set up a cluster [22:58] lowspeed (n=jh@cpe-075-183-106-088.triad.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:58] twolf: could i run matlab on caos? [22:58] twolf: Is that setup for work or personal? [22:58] is it just another linux distro or is it a specialty OS? [22:59] ViN86: I am sure you could [22:59] antiwire: I was helping out at the local uni for fun [22:59] twolf: what were they crunching on? [22:59] dragonmst (n=dragonms@67.110.215.238.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:59] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:59] twolf: hmm very interesting, thanks :) [22:59] antiwire: computing fractals mostly [23:00] twolf: i will try it out ona VM first [23:00] nice [23:00] how long should i leave memtest going, how many passes [23:00] i guess i can let it go overnight [23:00] at first we had 10 compute nodes, then we added 50 more [23:00] lowspeed (n=jh@cpe-075-183-106-088.triad.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:00] twolf: the nodes need to have the same hardware specs? or can they be varied? [23:01] ViN86: they can vary, although some would argue they shouldn't [23:01] twolf: k, i just got two machines, two core i7 950's [23:01] ViN86: that should be nice [23:01] im lookin to make a cluster with them, and iw as going to go slack, but caos looks nice [23:01] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:02] yea its grant money for my group at school [23:02] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:02] Vronsky (n=jh@75.183.106.88) joined ##slackware. [23:02] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [23:04] k installing to a VM now [23:07] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-131-23.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:08] 60% already heh [23:09] two machines for a cluster? why bother? [23:10] get a bigger machine instead. you get a single shared-memory platform, without all the overhead of mpi, and much easier to manage/use [23:10] Weird0ne (n=rogue@99-160-155-34.lightspeed.bkfdca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:12] ananke: reliability [23:12] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-153-4.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:14] anake: it's starting as 2 [23:14] looking for some good docs on slackware/linux on macbook pro [23:14] but with time, will become many more [23:14] *ananke: [23:14] Vronsky (n=jh@75.183.106.88) left irc: "Leaving" [23:14] esoteric: that sounds strange [23:15] pi31415: reliability of what? [23:15] combined reliability of two machines is lower than one machine [23:15] pi31415, not necessarily [23:15] it's like Raid 0 [23:15] Time is 8:15pm, computer has been up for 3w 3d 8h 18m 52s [23:15] dive^ (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Client Quit [23:15] looks like vista needs a reboot [23:16] stig (n=stig@173.80-202-229.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [23:16] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [23:16] ananke: just like the combined reliability of two disks is lower than a single disk? [23:16] it is [23:17] pi31415: yep [23:17] antiwire: then why not just use a big disk instead of using RAID? [23:17] two disks in R0 are worse than 1 alone. R1 is safer than one disk though [23:17] you're not fully grasping the issue [23:17] pi31415: because you assume that a cluster with two nodes is equivalent to raid1. it's not. [23:18] adding mechanical devices to a non-redundant system increases the likelihood of a failure taking out the whole system. [23:18] you guys are all missing the point [23:18] im starting with 2 [23:18] it will go up from there [23:18] 2 is for me to learn how to get the cluster going, then i add [23:18] i wouldnt buy 100 machines and dive head first into the shallow end [23:18] ViN86: how many more nodes? and are those rack mounted or not? [23:18] ananke: why is it not like raid1? [23:18] if it's a learning exercise then the rules change [23:19] ananke: that depends on how much my group grows [23:19] and for the mean time, they are not rack mounted [23:19] pi31415: because with two nodes you still have to have a head node. so one of them would have to be a head node. that's already non-redundant [23:19] ananke: doesn't that depend on the HA implementation? [23:19] pi31415: he's talking about HPC cluster not HA [23:20] almost like a difference between raid0 and raid1 [23:20] ViN86: you wouldn't want to cluster 100 workstations :) [23:21] ananke: isn't that what seti @home does? [23:21] ananke: lol yes i know [23:21] ViN86: and if your cluster will grow to more than a few machines, you really should be looking at distributions aimed for clusters. forget tinkering with slackware [23:21] ananke: id have to expand the room the two machines are in [23:21] rocks is a good example of such distro [23:21] ananke: that's why im looking into caos [23:21] pi31415: seti@home is a distributed project, not a cluster. [23:21] veritos (n=veritos@76.104.249.167) joined ##slackware. [23:22] If I were doing a Linux cluster I might go with redhat [23:22] there is no interprocess communication with seti [23:22] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:22] wubbster (n=wubbster@24.206.157.137) left irc: "Leaving" [23:22] why redhat, when there is rocks? [23:23] well, redhat probably built a special distro for clusters. They might even have a special kernel. [23:23] but at least it's going in the right direction :) [23:23] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grid_computing [23:23] thumbs: rocks is just that. [23:23] thumbs: caos NSA has everything integrated [23:23] pi31415: seti@home is not grid computing [23:23] they probably used --with-cluster. [23:23] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [23:23] wikipedia describes grid computing as cluster computing [23:24] ananke: I was being sarcastic. [23:24] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:24] thumbs: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7239 [23:24] thumbs: ohh :) [23:24] Vronsky (n=jh@cpe-075-183-106-088.triad.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:24] ananke: see the --with-cluster comment. [23:24] thumbs: no fair, that was later :) [23:25] ViN86: yes, *yawn* [23:25] twolf: thanks for the heads up on caos, im going to check it out :) [23:26] thumbs: sorry to bore :o [23:26] ananke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SETI@home [23:26] ViN86: and rocks :) [23:26] seti@home is a grid computing project according to wikipedia [23:26] pi31415: you fail to understand the way seti@home and most clusters work [23:26] ananke: what rocks? [23:27] ViN86: 'rocks', it's a project similar to caos [23:27] ananke: is that wikipedia page incorrect? [23:27] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-184-136.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:27] pi31415: your interpretation of it is incorrect [23:27] AsSlowAsHell (n=jigg@74-130-170-175.dhcp.insightbb.com) joined ##slackware. [23:27] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.174) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:28] ananke: lol oh ok, ill check that out too thx [23:28] pi31415: seti@home involves no interprocess communication. no node is talking to other nodes. [23:28] veritos (n=veritos@76.104.249.167) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:28] I was reading "man fsck" and it has a switch to NOT check mounted filesystems -- does that mean that it actually *can* check filesystems while they're mounted? [23:28] there is no need for mpi there, etc [23:28] stig_ (n=stig@173.80-202-229.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:28] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:28] ananke: technically the socks interface was called IPC, and set@home uses that [23:29] is there a good gui for configuring iptables? [23:29] sockets [23:29] pi31415: and technically nodes don't contact each other [23:30] k thx everyone, im off [23:30] ViN86: have fun :) [23:30] ananke: im sure ill get somewhere after a few days or 20 installs [23:30] ananke: how is the work transfered without contact? [23:30] one of them is the limit me thinks [23:31] ViN86 (n=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FIVE-FIFTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU) left irc: "Leaving" [23:31] Waluyo (n=Waluyo@222.124.207.250) joined ##slackware. [23:31] pi31415: head nodes take care of it. [23:31] amang (i=gnu@71.94.1.213) joined ##slackware. [23:33] hmm, time to get some sleep. in the morning i gotta figure out where i'm going to fit a likely 10 new racks of equipment, without knowing what they have [23:34] is there a raid guru in the house? [23:35] ananke: DCC them here ... space is no problem ;) [23:36] I used to do that, but the rape,pillage and plundering got a bit old after a while. [23:36] ;) [23:36] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.159.132) joined ##slackware. [23:37] I still prefer chaos, panic, pandemonium... [23:37] metriccw1ench (n=ii@ppp-71-142-151-32.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:38] mayhem, chaos, anarchy [23:38] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:39] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [23:39] AsSlowAsHell: ask your question [23:40] oh uhh [23:40] Vronsky (n=jh@cpe-075-183-106-088.triad.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [23:40] im getting "Cannot find PRIVHEAD 2" and i can't mount my 3 drive RAID0 [23:40] its a windows raid0 [23:41] seriously? [23:41] AsSlowAsHell: no, seriously? [23:41] what? [23:41] you fail at trolling [23:41] i dont fail at trolling [23:41] im not trolling ;_; [23:41] how does it related to slackware? [23:41] its linux, and im trying to use linux to mount it? [23:42] and i have a slackbox? [23:42] AsSlowAsHell: windows 'raid' is called a dymanic disk, and is software raid. it is completely different and incompatitible with linux software raid [23:42] oh, i thought it was compatable, or had some kind of module to load it [23:42] no. [23:43] well in that case ill just try to see if i can manually find the LDM Database [23:43] look at this ridiculousness [23:43] http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/9595/impossible.png [23:43] if you were using the fakeraid on your motherboard, you'd be able to mount it in linux. [23:44] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:44] AsSlowAsHell: some trivial googling would have shown you that what you wanted was impossible [23:45] really? what terms? [23:45] even now i can't find an answer on google if its supported [23:45] maybe i suck at googling [23:46] windows raid linux turned up some good stuff [23:47] i wonder why it says ldm_validate_privheads(): Cannot find PRIVHEAD 2 [23:47] ldm = logical disk manager = windows [23:47] or at least what they call it [23:48] unless the linux kernel guys call it the same thing [23:48] because as far as i know, linux can read dynamic disks the span a single drive. [23:48] and i thought PRIVHEAD was an NTFS speicifc thing for windows dynamic disks [23:48] AsSlowAsHell: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/ldm.txt [23:49] apparently Linux *does* have at least partial support for Windows raid/dynamicdisk/whatever [23:50] http://www.linux-ntfs.org/content/view/19/37/ [23:50] not found [23:50] thats what the docs that Urchlay linked to [23:50] comma, linked to [23:51] oh [23:51] did you create the windows raid0 with vista? "A newer approach that has been implemented with Vista is to put LDM on top of a GPT label disk. This is not supported by the Linux LDM driver yet." [23:52] nope [23:52] its XP SP2 [23:52] no, I don't even know what a "GPT label disk" is :) [23:52] yeah i dont either [23:52] my problem is i accidenly powered off the computer [23:52] cause i bumped the UPS power switch [23:52] however. you will not have full read/write with ntfs [23:52] and then i turned it back on my WD 1TB thought it was 32 MB [23:53] in the BIOS even [23:53] how cute [23:53] no idea why, but after a bunch of googling [23:53] i found a tool that fixed it [23:53] hm. Some (most?) drives do support a "limit capacity to 32MB" jumper setting [23:53] thats a 32GB jumper isn't it? [23:53] no idea how that'd get enabled without you knowing you did it [23:53] not MB [23:53] yeah i have no idea how it happened [23:54] hrrr, actually I dunno [23:54] I'm thinking of really old drives I think [23:54] anyway, after i fixd it and it shows its proper exact size (right down to the byte), when i view the drive in raw hex, the MBR is there and happy, i see the PRIVHEAD sector, and the data looks like it is there [23:54] Urchlay: yeah not a typical feature of terabyte drives [23:54] but it still refuses to mount [23:54] AsSlowAsHell: what kind of raid is it? [23:54] striping raid 0 [23:54] spook: if they're IDE (PATA), they probably have a [23:54] dynamic disk [23:55] they are all SATA [23:55] "limit capacity to..." something, probably not 32 megs tho [23:55] Urchlay: i dont know how many terabyte PATA drives YOU'VE see [23:55] n [23:55] I've seen some for sale, I never bought one though [23:55] then i used a tool that dumps the LDM Database, and it works for the other 2 drives [23:55] but not for the problematic one [23:55] http://www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=status [23:55] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [23:56] so i try to figure out what in the heck is going on by manually looking at the LDM Database in hex... but [23:56] _dogsoul (i=doggy@root.slackbox.org) joined ##slackware. [23:56] its PAST the end of the physical drive [23:56] dogsoul (i=doggy@root.slackbox.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:56] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [23:56] i have no idea how its possible [23:56] as depicted [23:56] http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/9595/impossible.png [23:56] there [23:56] why are we troubleshooting that in h ere? [23:56] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:57] antiwire: i'm kind of interested. [23:57] i was hoping i could get it mounted in linux [23:57] and that windows was just being retarded [23:57] like it usually is [23:57] and im getting "Cannot find PRIVHEAD 2" [23:57] but its clearly there :( [23:57] in the raw hex, right after the MBR just as on the other two drives [23:58] AsSlowAsHell: wait till linus-ntfs.org recovers their pages. [23:58] AsSlowAsHell: thats all that can be done right now. [23:58] yeah... theres some bad stuff going down over there eh? [23:58] This website is currently experiencing difficulties. Our server has been victim to an attack and has been taken offline. We are now in the process of maintaining the pages and bringing everything back up. [23:58] ah [00:00] --- Wed Oct 14 2009