[00:00] KidneyBeans: Do you use MXit? lol [00:01] no [00:01] lol good [00:01] im not a paedophile [00:01] you really miss this place dont you lf4? [00:01] whats mxit? [00:01] dont make me google your ass :) [00:01] KidneyBeans: I was in a relationship with someone from there for over 16 months. [00:01] Quiznos: its a phone IM client app. [00:01] ty [00:01] did she remind you of charlize theron lf4? [00:02] heh [00:02] Quiznos: I should let you google all this stuff (will kee you busy) haha. [00:02] ew too lazy [00:02] and i do have stuff to review on the net [00:02] whoa, my clock is 3 hours ahead. :/ [00:02] hello, i'm Quiznos and I have a prob [00:02] fire|bird: thats not good lol [00:02] Quiznos: we know [00:03] LF4: no doubt. nothing ntpdate can't fix. :P [00:03] wrong response; "Hi QuiznoS" [00:03] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:03] oh! btw, the beta carotene HAS improved my eye sight after two weeks! [00:03] hm, im tempted to try gentoo just because my ati card might work [00:04] carrot in a pill. [00:04] LF4 im gunna bribe an american chic into marrying me so i can get a usa passport [00:04] Action: LF4 quickly forwards all fire|bird's port 123 traffic to his NTP server. [00:04] then i can leave this hell-hole [00:04] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.81.206) left irc: Connection timed out [00:04] beans, that wont work here anymore [00:04] KidneyBeans: good luck with that one. [00:04] lol ;p [00:04] i thought it was a good idea [00:04] but then [00:04] LF4: 13 Aug 23:04:32 ntpdate[14363]: step time server 217.160.254.116 offset -7186.050656 sec [00:04] Darn it I have to get ready for work. [00:04] KidneyBeans nop; not anymore [00:04] every american woman that i ever met wanted to stay in south africa [00:05] they resist letting people into the USA who married citizens these days [00:05] fire|bird: Yey it worked ;) but i didn't get to set my time yet. [00:05] is the usa really THAT bad? [00:05] LF4: NO, please, don't leave me with all these crazies. :( [00:05] terrapin, yeah, you have to just sneak in instead, then you're ok [00:05] fire|bird: I'll be back once I get to work :) [00:05] LF4: Oh thank gosh. [00:05] KidneyBeans the people in govt are that bad; the rules and laws mean nothing. everything is done by private-right of contract. [00:05] terrapin: That's not accurate at all [00:05] antiwire "resist" is a good word for it. [00:06] antiwire: I know of a case that is exactly what I said [00:06] hmmz [00:06] so it is accurate. [00:06] cite? [00:06] My friend married a Thai woman and they had no issues at all [00:06] fire|bird: I'm always here, unless sleeping, eating, driving, partying, ok maybe I shouldn't say when I am not here haha the list is to long. [00:06] they got married about 2 months ago [00:06] LF4: lol [00:07] LF4 it's simply none of our biz if you dont want to say. [00:08] antiwire: true I kept suggesting that to my friend in SA, she's finally doing that and her guy (who lives here) is going back to get married but traditions and laws in SA for marriages are messed up lol. [00:08] Action: LF4 is off to work [00:08] LF4 is dutch (and SA) law based on common or civil? [00:08] wait [00:09] answer my last? [00:09] sa law is based on bullshit [00:09] KidneyBeans: answered it for you [00:09] KidneyBeans then you tell me [00:09] one half of the country feeds the whole country [00:09] gn LF4 [00:10] im thinking that since Danmark began as christian nation, its law would be common; is it? [00:10] well [00:10] actually the ANC [00:10] which is the dominant 'party' [00:10] k [00:10] wwas more of a russia-backed cold-war attempt-at-coup organization [00:10] so all their policies are communist n shit [00:11] yea but that doesnt tell me of the roots of law in either danmark nor SA [00:11] but they cant really implement them coz they cant get anything done, lol [00:11] just bc a legislature is all locked up with disagreement is NOT a bad thing. the less they do, the better off the people are. [00:11] in any govt. [00:12] disagreement? they dont need agreement [00:13] they control about 64% of parliament [00:13] if they cant agree then there is no legislation to pass. [00:13] they steal all the money [00:13] yea well; thieves will do that. [00:13] they tell their voters that they are going to give each and every one of them a house, and a this and a that; and they have been saying this for the past 3 elections [00:13] but they never deliverred [00:14] when will the ppl stop believing liars? [00:14] fire|bird: finished :) nepomunk consumes about 20% cpu, but otherwise not bad [00:14] Sounds like the HR guy and my company phone [00:14] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.77.63.46) left irc: "gnite" [00:14] KidneyBeans that's going on in .us govts now also. but most americans are quite aware of the lying, cheating, stealing, etc. [00:14] thrice`: great. Have you tried it out too? thoughts? [00:14] heh, yeah, I disabled nepodunk. :P [00:15] N. B. i distinguish tween america and UNITED STATES (a fictional corporation) [00:15] "we the people" are the americans. [00:15] oh lord [00:15] america is a strange country though, the government is greatly influenced by private industry [00:15] straterra heh, dint mean to poke you :) [00:15] KidneyBeans corporations are part and parcel of the govt; it's in the law. [00:15] over here it seems all you need are 20 million impoverished uneducated idiots, and you lie to them and BAM you get voted for [00:16] KidneyBeans yea [00:16] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:16] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:16] americans arent so uneducated tho but we are still dealing with main stream media duplicity. we're realising that the main media are NOT our friends to inform us. [00:17] ignore the liars and find the truth. [00:17] thats pretty weird though because your media is all in private industry [00:17] the "upper echelon" of corporations are all for what bamer is doing. [00:17] that's also the duplicity of corporate officers [00:18] and they've been a prob since mid-1800s [00:18] don't hilight me bro [00:18] in other news, the sky is falling [00:18] echelon lol; sorry, using a proper word :) [00:18] antiwire do tell :) [00:18] you give me false hope that i'm wanted [00:18] sure, we need ya :) [00:18] yeh americans are manipulated a lot [00:19] i sometimes really feel for you [00:19] because you're all such nice people [00:19] don't say something you don't mean :( [00:19] KidneyBeans yea, but we know that we are. [00:19] echelon what's your field of spertese? [00:19] but you should have left our apartheid alone [00:19] hahahah [00:19] Quiznos, you know you are what? [00:19] KidneyBeans that was gov.us's involvement, not Americans. there is a differemce. [00:19] you should have left us alone to find our own way to get rid of apartheid [00:19] jeev what? [00:19] [09:19pm] KidneyBeans yea, but we know that we are. [00:20] KidneyBeans hind sight is 20-20; i cant apologise for what the state dept did. [00:20] jeev so tell me [00:20] i want to know what you're talking about [00:20] lol [00:20] KidneyBeans i mean, i may not like/approve what the dept did but i dont control them [00:20] i don't specialize :/ [00:20] ok echelon [00:21] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:21] pfft [00:21] the usa people control the gov [00:21] you vote for those people man [00:21] barely. [00:21] KidneyBeans, wrong [00:21] no. state dept personell are not elected [00:22] they are hired or appointed by pres and approved by Senate [00:22] same with CIA, FBI, and the rest of the alphabet soup agencies. [00:22] alphabet boys! [00:22] well the usa is gunna face a serious reality check in the coming decades [00:22] we only vote for congress and president. [00:22] american politicians or people in power [00:23] can do anything because [00:23] KidneyBeans we just might. i dont know for sure. [00:23] a) american's are too busy trying to figure out their debt [00:23] b) american's think they're the shit because they started some democracy shit [00:23] c) they beliee they dont do wrong doing [00:23] and more [00:23] no, we started a representative republic [00:23] pffft, human rights and democracy were invented in france [00:23] never said they were the first [00:23] but they act like they're the only [00:23] the "democracy" started later, after the federal war upon the states [00:23] hmm, decided to give xfce4 a try, this isn't too bad [00:24] KidneyBeans wrong, those rights began in ancient Rome. [00:24] and greece and the other nation-states [00:25] the usa is going to have to become very facist if it wants to stay as big as it is [00:25] if i were born in america [00:25] i would've become a politician [00:25] and stole like they all do [00:25] or steal, whatever [00:25] at the beginning of Roman history, the father had full control of life and death of members. eventually, legislation from the roman senate changed that; but it took centuries [00:26] life and death of what members? [00:26] KidneyBeans Americans will never accept facism or any other -ism. [00:26] wife, sons, daughters. [00:26] pfft [00:26] fascism is the invasion of countries for their natural resources. [00:26] you cant scoff; this is historical. [00:27] you have been edging in that direction for over 30 years now [00:27] KidneyBeans doesnt matter what it is. the people will refuse it. do refuse it. [00:27] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [00:28] and during the last 20 years (since the net arrived) we have taken responsibility for OUR own education to learn what govt is doing; to change it and control it as best we can. [00:28] the thing that upsets me when people mention EDUCATION [00:28] is that they're always blaming kids and teachers [00:28] eventually, the people will learn that we people ourselves NEED to be elected to change things. [00:28] democracy worked 100 years ago [00:28] we need something better n newer now [00:29] but, from God's perspective, time is almost up for this age. things will only get worse from here on out [00:29] go to an american corporation, everyone is sitting there scratching their balls and talking to their coworkers [00:29] a few more decades before the Lord returns. [00:29] so... that's that. [00:29] it's never efficient in thsi country [00:29] americans are always busy waiting for the second coming :/ [00:29] you're waiting for documents at for example where they process DBA's [00:29] lol [00:29] bbl [00:29] ok [00:29] go to van nuys court or some shit [00:29] the employees sit there and do nothing while you wait [00:29] same with city workers [00:29] i hope they all lose their jobs [00:29] jeev nods [00:30] americans want a break every 10 minutes they work [00:30] this is for you guys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cd7Bsp3dDo [00:30] they are quite overworked and under payed [00:30] they get into a city or county job, whatever.. and they sit there and do nothing [00:30] they want a break every 10 minutes. [00:30] i duno about that. [00:30] some people are overworked, city and county workers, clerical.. anything inside an office ARE NOT OVERWORKED [00:30] i dont know them so i cant answer [00:31] i think the people who clean the trash, set up the buildings, prepare them, wire them should get more money than people who sit there and do nothing [00:31] Quiznos, i see it every day.. i do a lot of legal work. [00:31] ok [00:31] jeev what capacity? [00:31] office or position? [00:31] i waited an hour today at court to get documents [00:31] not for me, for a friends business [00:31] nods [00:31] ok [00:31] i waited an hour while 9 employees sat there and talked to themselves [00:31] it takes 3 minutes to do what i needed, nobody in line. [00:31] i'm sure it was maddening [00:32] it's like that EVERY day. my friend has a cousin who works somewhere in LA county [00:32] is this #ventaboutbullshit ? [00:32] i forgot, some kind of office shit [00:32] they manage a waiting list and health stuff [00:32] they get like so many days off, sick days, vacation and then she says that [00:32] we dont care that we make people wait, we got that job and can do anything we want [00:33] when I was in Pennsy, I had landlord probs every other week :) I became quite friendly and known with the Clerk's office; earned some cred for being a lone plaintiff/def and they all saw me in the library studying actual law and opinions. [00:33] I miss those people; they were quite good to me. [00:33] they're GREAT people if you befriend them [00:33] nods [00:33] but overall, extremely lazy. [00:33] the american workforce is lazy, except for people who manufacture things [00:33] antiwire: apparently that's what it's become. [00:33] heh :) maybe but i think it's hype [00:33] so much time is wasted at work for people to do their personal shit [00:33] i've seen people sitting there paying their bills on the job [00:34] writing checks and stuff [00:34] brb [00:34] when people blame education with the word teacher and kids in the same sentence, there is a problem [00:35] parents need to be slapped, there are too many old school people in this country who aren't ok with anything [00:35] that includes a black dood being president [00:35] brb too [00:35] jeev as i was saying to someone the other day; "we know the educators; we went to skool with them and we know what they know -- we are all morons" [00:35] the woman heartily agreed with me. [00:36] the educational sys was corrupted in the ~1880s [00:36] its porpose is to make drones who can do monotonous work. [00:36] and it succeeds [00:39] before the 1880s, children didnt need to study more than 8 years of skool simply because they had learned what we now need 12+ or more to learn [00:39] by skooling in single-room skools, all the children of every age helped each other!!! a very efficient method of education. [00:40] You're writing this and spelling school as "skool"... [00:40] yea :) [00:41] my little conservation of digital energy :0 [00:41] fingers i mean. [00:42] yea Quiznos [00:42] juice__ (i=juice@ice-cold.net) left irc: "later" [00:42] the educational system is created for cheaters [00:43] cheaters? how so? [00:43] i never had a problem, believe me.. i may sound stupid here but im really smart [00:43] but they make it difficult, so difficult where it requires cheaters [00:43] people who cheat.. mostly business and finance [00:43] cheaters are profitable to big corporations [00:43] well that's not a prob from the skool sys; that's a lack of honor and knowledge of God [00:43] they will cheat for the companies, eventually burn the papers and enron and everyone else [00:43] brb [00:44] that's the parents' fault too. [00:44] the sys might well be run by cheaters (there's news occasionally) [00:44] sooner or later, even the dumbest figure out that wrong-doing just doesn't pay off - maybe on levels not immediately understood/seen, but true nonetheless [00:45] nods; with digital era, simple crime, any crime, becomes nearly impossible. [00:45] indeed - though the truth goes way deeper than that [00:45] forensics is well developed. [00:45] nods sure, always does [00:46] even if "un-caught", wrong-doing had a tendency to yield even its gains unenjoyable [00:46] yep [00:46] this is a truth understood by many philosophies and religions throughout history - still, people have a tendency to not listen [00:46] the days of "super criminal minds" is well passed [00:47] like the fictional LexLuthor of older superman movies and plots [00:47] and even he always failed [00:47] heh - yep :) [00:47] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: [00:47] even the devil failed [00:47] he'll never succeed. [00:47] still fails [00:47] right [00:49] btw, new thought on the meaning of `666'; greek, "vi vi vi" but John on Patmos wrote in hebrew. so the transliteration would mean that he wrote the sixth hebrew letter, www [00:49] and we recognise what that means now. [00:49] and it is well implemented already. [00:49] interestingly, even in a theoretical future of "perfect forensics", where nothing can go undiscovered, there will always still be corruption such that there will be motivation to cover up or not hold parties accountable - even so, ill-gotten gains will remain unenjoyable [00:50] agreed [00:50] 666.microsoft.com [00:50] haha [00:50] lol [00:50] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [00:50] 666.eu [00:50] 666.de.eu [00:50] 666.hell.com [00:50] 666.us [00:50] nah too obv. [00:50] not us [00:51] 666.us.gov [00:51] .eu or arabia [00:52] 666.quizonos.eu [00:52] lol [00:52] bah [00:52] 666.quiznos.eu [00:52] wow, www.666.com is the home page of the architect of XEmacs [00:52] lol [00:52] weird [00:53] very [00:53] emacs are evil [00:53] I guess it makes sense then :) [00:53] vi is holy [00:53] Action: rk4n3 is a vi bigot, as well [00:53] www.www.com is live; they have email svc too [00:54] 2.5$us/m [00:54] Quiznos@666.com [00:54] heh [00:55] i prefer mc's editor, then vim. im no super editor [00:55] i'd really like to write a editor too. [00:55] joe [00:56] i have some ancient src code that Id like to use maybe as foundation or for idears [00:56] i've been dev'ing idears for a few years now [00:56] wordpad.exe [00:56] a alt emacs afa programmability is concerned. [00:56] very dynamic via libdl. [00:57] but from there I consider a whole shell. 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[02:04] puyi (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:05] how do i make scroo whell work on my mouse ? I'm using kde 3.5 [02:05] the scroll whell* [02:06] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [02:06] mornin ken [02:07] puyi grep ZAx /etc/X11/xorg.conf* [02:07] puyi: http://www.slackwiki.org/Scroll_Wheel [02:07] or that [02:07] lol [02:08] Hey Rat409 [02:08] hey fire|bird [02:09] puyi change the conf then restart x [02:09] Quiznos: Almost morning :) [02:09] ok [02:10] 50 more minutes [02:10] it's been quiet here [02:10] so I gathered before I left the house [02:10] heh [02:10] Rat409: How's it going? [02:10] greetings alisonken1noc [02:11] Quiznos: antiwire thanks gonna restart x now [02:11] puyi: try xorg.conf... InputDevice "Mouse" [02:11] puyi (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:12] Quiznos, i take it that's where you sent him... [02:12] come on. [02:12] yo fire|bird [02:13] alisonken1noc: How are you? [02:13] just starting the last night before a couple of days off - be gone till wed. evening [02:13] other than it being my friday :) [02:14] how's things with you? [02:14] shonudo yea [02:14] thought so; good deal [02:14] no moon tonight; -rite watching should be good for me [02:14] no clouds [02:14] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:14] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:15] alisonken1noc: going excellent here, just working on my laptop, Windows still :( All my attempts to image the hdd before installing slack64 have failed. The images are fine, but they don't work in qemu or VBox. :P [02:15] puyi (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:15] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8980D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:15] yay! it worked :D [02:15] y0 slackytude [02:15] puyi good. [02:15] slackytude: please temper the niceness in this channel right now [02:15] morning [02:15] y0 fire|bird [02:15] http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=e694958388c50148389b0e9b9e9e8945cf0f1b98 [02:15] slackytude: are you having a splendidly horrible day so far? [02:15] antiwire, dont go jumping on me öike that, asshole [02:16] fire|bird: doh [02:16] yes! [02:16] that's what we needed [02:16] lol [02:16] I live to serve [02:16] I'm going to burn one last slackware dvd so I can try and upgrade my laptop on vacation [02:16] lol [02:16] shah16 (n=shah@121.246.152.157) joined ##slackware. [02:16] slackytude: and protect? like the police? :P [02:17] alisonken1noc: cool. If I could just get this darn drive backed up, I'd be running slack64. :P [02:17] i've been sleeping horribly the past week [02:17] I can tell I need sleep but my brain won't do it [02:17] antiwire why? [02:17] I just hope the dvd on the laptop still works. noticed some heating issues with it the last couple of years [02:17] fire|bird: sorry was editing conkyrc [02:17] antiwire: Did you try staying awake all day and night like you mentioned the other day. [02:17] fire|bird, nah [02:17] Rat409: no worries [02:18] fire|bird: good thanks and yourself? [02:18] I was awake until about 5 am last night again [02:18] antiwire, werent you the guy who dropped coffee? [02:18] slackytude: yeah [02:18] alisonken1noc: my lappy was having issues, heat, etc. I ended up having to replace the cpu and mobo. [02:18] laptop dvds seem to have self-destruct code in the firmware [02:18] antiwire: counting the db $$ ? [02:18] Rat409: doing excellent, thanks. [02:18] slackytude: I wonder if this could be a side effect [02:19] antiwire: could easily be. Did the sleeping issue begin shortly after cutting out caffeine? [02:19] yes [02:19] being a 6-7yo HP laptop, I'm not surprised it's starting to have issues with the dvd - I've already replaced the hd once [02:19] alisonken1noc: heh, mine's HP as well, zv6000 [02:19] 2007 model [02:19] i've been off any caffeine for about 2 weeks now and my sleep started sucking this week [02:19] dv6636nr going on 2 this xmas [02:20] antiwire what else are you drinking that might have caffeine in it? [02:20] all works fine tho atm [02:20] hp pavillion ze4610us [02:20] antiwire: Well, could just try and ride it out, or try some caffeine, but that may give you even more issues. [02:20] Quiznos: I say "any caffeine" because I've been stay away from tea, coffee, chocolate, anything [02:20] other than dvd issues, been running slack12.0 for some time now [02:20] alison, how does linux run on the hp's? [02:21] Rat409: Well, mine is working fine now after the mobo and cpu replacements. [02:21] antiwire ok; good. well, maybe a detox or fast or more clean water would help? [02:21] works fine - touchpad (including the side up/down slider) work fine [02:21] yes i hope it was warranteed [02:21] I've got mine set to 1024x768 (old eyes :) ) [02:21] literally, no caffeine. I've been drinking about 5 pints of water per day and a beer with food. [02:21] ok; that's good. [02:21] Rat409: oh no, but thankfully I have a family member that had for parts laptops around, this same model. :) [02:22] antiwire more vitamins and minerals? [02:22] i eat perfectly balanced too [02:22] Rat409: It's fun taking em apart. :) [02:22] i can imagine [02:22] Rat409: it actually is, after removing a gazillion screws. :/ [02:23] I swear, there was a friggen screw like every 1 inch, just for the case. :P [02:23] antiwire, see what happens if you try to screw coffee? [02:23] yuh [02:24] lol [02:24] antiwire, not making fun or anything [02:24] slackytude: all hell breaks loose [02:24] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-xdmpglaahlpwjtdj) joined ##slackware. [02:24] slackytude: you hear from doctors "well you should stop caffeine if something is wrong" and then other bad things happen [02:25] 1024x768 on 14-15" ? [02:25] well, coffee is recommended to help with some health issues - but only 2 cups a day [02:25] Up until two weeks ago I hadn't gone a single day without at least 1 cup of coffee or tea everyday for about 3 years [02:25] mancha: that's the max here on mine. [02:26] hrmm, thats a little low to be a max [02:26] mancha: been a while - 13"-14" comes to mind [02:27] mancha: lol, whoops, I had taken the ati driver out so that could be affecting it, plus, it's windows. :P [02:27] antiwire, well, might be completly unrelated as well. got any other issues? trouble at work? [02:27] antiwire, or try to do some sport... [02:27] and of course, someone moved the tape measure :) [02:27] antiwire, of course, I could also be insulting if that calms you [02:28] i walk 5-7 miles 3 times per week and when there is surf I utterly exert myself to exhaustion [02:28] I don't think it's activity issues. I'll blame caffeine for another week [02:28] insomnia sucks [02:29] no shit [02:29] mancha: according to the spec sheet - it's a 15" [02:29] been there, done that, got the t-shirt [02:29] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-242.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:29] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:29] alison, ok thats a little big for my taste (your res, that is). then again, using my little hanheld has made my eyes go to hell so you might be wise [02:30] antiwire maybe your organs are clogged and unable to filter the caffeine (or other things) properly [02:30] antiwire thus I suggest fast, or cleansing. [02:31] Quiznos, what coffee? [02:31] not clogged man, I eat perfectly [02:31] hi [02:32] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [02:32] eating well (no one actually eats perfectly give corporate abuse of the land bc of nutritional deficiencies) wont prevent liver, kidneys, testines, from becoming clogged. [02:32] s/give/given [02:32] today i've had 1 apple, 1 banana, 2 carrots, 2 eggs, 2 slices of wheat toast, 1 slice of cheese, at least half a gal of water, and a handful of blueberries [02:33] food is not the only thing that the organs absorb; impurities also [02:33] carrots are especially devoid of essential nutrients [02:34] in fact; after two weeks of taking beta carotene pills, my sight is much better that I can read a 1pt disclaimer on a necklace pendant [02:34] i'm quite thankful for that. [02:34] it said "Made in china" [02:35] mancha: I've been using reading glasses for a few years now - so anything helps :) [02:35] i ate carrots, fresh, raw, cooked for two months; nothing changed. [02:35] my sight was becoming quite blurry. [02:36] sup peepsz [02:36] hi nixy [02:37] alison, does suspend-to-ram work on those? i recall a friend having issues [02:37] mancha: haven't played with that - I usually just shutdown since i don't use it every day [02:38] wow peroxide is freezable [02:38] iyobe (n=iyobe@pool-96-231-0-113.washdc.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:38] never new that [02:38] at what temp? [02:38] (i didn't know that either) [02:38] all liquids are freezable [02:39] iyobe (n=iyobe@pool-96-231-0-113.washdc.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:39] iyobe (n=iyobe@pool-96-231-0-113.washdc.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:39] yeah, agreed, but i only have a freezer [02:39] shonudo uses vernacular "freezer" on page. paragraph discussing home use. [02:39] s/page/paragr/ [02:39] god damnit [02:40] its true what they say about coffee [02:40] peroxide decomposes 10%/year [02:40] ~10% [02:40] whats the mineral/vitamin/etc they claim is the good one for eyes these days? could it be pectin? [02:41] i'm not thinking beta-carotene, btw [02:41] you know whats good for the eyes? eyedrops. [02:41] where is that danc3 fucker? the dude who thinks we only talk slackware in here. [02:41] shonudo reading http://drinkh2o2.com [02:42] mancha i use B. carotene bc carrots are nutrientionally deficient. [02:42] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [02:43] mancha there's just not enuf nutrients in food these days bc of corporate abuse of land. [02:43] iyobe (n=iyobe@pool-96-231-0-113.washdc.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:43] Quiznos, carrots are good...have you ever seen a rabbit with glasses? [02:43] they dont rotate aor let the land lay fallow [02:44] mancha i ate fresh carrots for months without bettering my sight; two weeks of B. carotene supplements changed my sight very much for the better. [02:44] i'm near sighted [02:44] WEEKS!!! [02:44] i wonder if you can blame the CRT [02:44] what do you guys think? [02:44] CRT = eye damage? [02:44] maybe. [02:44] take a supplement [02:44] i havent got flatscreens yet [02:44] i've got a crt too [02:44] coz my monitors haven't broken yet [02:44] well, I smoke, drink coffee, drink and eat crap [02:44] heh [02:45] to beans [02:45] but at least I sleep ok [02:45] that's digusting slackytude [02:45] i've got three 17" crts on this puter [02:45] seriously. [02:45] I'm about to find some scotch [02:45] i quit drinking :p [02:45] anyway. [02:45] antiwire, try a beer [02:45] [/end h2o2] [02:46] not too much alcohol and makes you sleepy, or wine [02:46] taking scoth to sleep doesnt sound good [02:47] mmm Christine Chenoworth. [02:47] actress. [02:48] crt probably has significant bad effects on the eyes [02:49] puyi (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:50] Action: quasar yawns [02:51] well i'm out be well all [02:51] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:51] 2 girls, 1 slackytude, some smokes and a cup o' coffee [02:51] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-168-78-251.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:52] SiegeX, new porn site? [02:52] nah, it's just him daydreaming [02:52] out loud [02:52] digitally [02:54] SiegeX, I agree with that setup [02:55] s/2 girls/3 girls/ ? [02:55] room full o' girls [02:55] and lots of bubbles [02:56] haha [02:56] that's an even better setup. :) [02:56] antiwire: How many girls will fit in the Staples Center? :P [02:57] it's called a nunnery ;-) [02:57] hahaha [02:57] morning dive [02:57] iyobe (n=iyobe@pool-96-231-0-113.washdc.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:57] morning [02:57] how's it going? [02:58] Just been checking out svn of mrxvt. Someone is working on utf8 :-) [02:58] cool [02:58] saivin (n=saivin@122.167.87.111) joined ##slackware. [02:58] unfortunately they haven't got tab titles or reading most of the options in the resource file or I wold switch now. [02:59] fullscreen in mrxvt is great though. [03:00] y0 dive [03:00] hi slackytude [03:01] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "I'm Leaving" [03:01] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@173-17-138-22.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [03:01] fire|bird, O_o [03:01] fire|bird, by the way I made a small change to that motd script. Tabbed out some of the info. Same link. [03:01] dive: ok, thanks. [03:01] sup fire|bird [03:01] http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts [03:01] KidneyBeans: if you use the wrong CRT or the wrong settings for the CRT [03:02] hey nix_chix0r, how are you doing? Just messing with my laptop. :P [03:02] cool cool, watching wife swap [03:02] heh, you like that show? [03:02] that show's title sounds better than I bet it is [03:02] I tried that once. Got a tungsten socket set. [03:02] yeah... i got locked into it [03:03] SiegeX: Sometimes it's interesting. :P [03:03] dive: hahaha [03:03] "she's not a christiaaaaaaaaaaaaan"!!!! [03:03] nix_chix0r: Would you even go on that show? [03:03] ever [03:03] yeah it would be fun [03:04] watch i'd get paird with like uhhh [03:04] amish people [03:04] speaking of new shows. I just watched ep 1-5 of Lost season 1 for the very first time =). [03:04] "On today's episode, we have nix_chix0r from Middle_Of_Nowhere, MN and Cathy from Los Angeles, CA." [03:04] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-242.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:05] nix_chix0r = legolas wif a sexchange [03:05] lol we had an episode with some folks in minnesota and they had like a bunch of teenage eating piggies [03:05] haha [03:06] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [03:06] nix_chix0r: Would your hubby agree with having a different wife for a bit? [03:06] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:06] fire|bird, depends how the new wife looks & cooks, I say [03:06] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [03:06] Action: TwinReverb doesn't share his wife with anyone 8-) [03:06] lol [03:06] Action: slackytude hides [03:07] he said its ok [03:07] hey TwinReverb [03:07] i should enter [03:07] hey 8-) [03:07] nix_chix0r: really, you should. [03:07] i wonder if they shag each other's wives in wife-swop. [03:07] TwinReverb: topic is the tv show Wife Swap. [03:07] hmmmm [03:07] he said thats ok if he knows about it lul [03:07] if he knows? [03:07] they'd probably end up pairing me with someone who's insane, knowing how sane my wife is [03:07] and if he doesn't, he's gone? [03:08] there'd be like no drama at all [03:08] Action: nix_chix0r thinks he's joking [03:08] TwinReverb: probably, it's always complete opposites. [03:08] Action: LF4 is back... :) [03:08] wb LF4 [03:08] well they always try to stir up drama but i'd be resisting it 8-) [03:08] thanks fire|bird lol what did I miss? ;) haha [03:08] LF4: It's not as friggen crazy as before, thankfully. [03:09] LF4: not much really. We're discussing nix_chix0r being on Wife Swap. :P [03:09] lol sounds good, hey nix_chix0r did you said your hsuband was alright with you leaving for a richer guy? ;) [03:09] i'm checking out how to apply [03:10] LF4, that's what he says [03:10] "ok, so my wife spends hours on linux / irc, you gotta do that too" [03:10] lol [03:10] LF4: yeah, but you're not rich enough, so, you're out. :P [03:10] lol if you actaully do it let us know which show it is. :) [03:10] fire|bird: Oh ouch [03:10] then ##slackware on FN gets world-wide notice (also linux) [03:10] LF4: nix_chix0r is money hungry. :P [03:10] nix_chix0r are you sure that you shouldn't be spicing up your sex life instead? [03:10] TwinReverb: that would be great. [03:11] um once you've had sex like 100 times it's about all the same, no matter what freaky stuff you do [03:12] fire|bird: lol right now I'm a poor school student :P [03:12] you think you're spicing it up but really you're just doing what you do in real life: you don't have oatmeal for breakfast every morning, but once a week or so you do because having eggs for breakfast every morning is monotonous [03:12] same dozen or so meals, just not back to back [03:13] LF4: Well, I'm done with school, but I'm still poor, so I wouldn't stand a chance either. :P [03:13] TwinReverb: oatmeal has different flavors :) [03:13] fire|bird: Really? what degree? [03:13] http://www.funnycorner.net/funny-pictures/5003/Clowns-funeral.jpg [03:13] LF4: Computer Support Technician A.A.S. [03:13] LF4, but i doubt there are more than 20 or so that actually are good lol [03:14] aperturefever (n=george@athedsl-195484.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving." [03:14] not to be Reverend Kill Joy but seriously sometimes you get sick of spicing things up 8-) [03:14] fire|bird: I'm going for a BS in CS or CIT [03:14] TwinReverb: haha, nice link. [03:14] geno_ (n=geno@ip-118-90-115-60.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [03:14] LF4: nice, how much you have left to go? [03:14] TwinReverb i prefer spicy to bland, which is for babies. spice is tasty. [03:14] haha TwinReverb its not about if they are good or not just a change and then once you try it once if you don't like it never do it again. [03:14] even with eggs [03:14] lol [03:14] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [03:14] tiny [03:15] fire|bird: it feels like 100yrs still lol but I'm not sure since I work full time and attempt to do school full time. :P [03:15] Quiznos: sup sup [03:15] hihi [03:15] Quiznos, agreed.. babies are tasty. [03:15] i LOVE demotivational posters [03:15] spice is for the tongue; food is for the stomach/testines [03:15] quasar heh [03:15] LF4: haha, 1 year must feel like 5. [03:16] Action: tiny loves firebird :D [03:17] database that is [03:17] :O [03:17] tiny: thanks for adding that database part in there or that would have been awkward. :P [03:18] fire|bird: yeah something like that plus it depends per semester some I only take 12 credits others I take 14-16 [03:18] fire|bird: hehe, true :) [03:21] http://www.puresimplicity.net/~twinreverb/memorex.jpg [03:21] Whoever said Les Paul was 92 earlier was wrong, he was 94. [03:22] lol [03:22] "Is it trash, or is it Memorex" [03:22] y0 LF4 [03:23] hey slackytude [03:25] anyone need a monitor? sellout.woot.com [03:25] fire|bird, reload link, i improved it [03:26] \o/ [03:26] hiptobecubic: eww acer :P now if it was ASUS ++ [03:26] LF4, same here [03:26] Action: slackytude does school and work [03:27] lol isn't it a great life slackytude? [03:27] slackytude: When do you retake your exams? [03:27] acer asus whatever, it's 1080p 23" for 140 bucks. I paid more for less not too long ago. [03:27] LF4, no [03:27] fire|bird, dunno yet, Im guessing 1 1/2 months [03:27] fire|bird, and its just one test [03:28] s/exams/exam/ [03:28] happy? :P [03:28] hiptobecubic: lol we have a few acer monitors around work and they don't look that nice lol [03:28] yes ^-^ [03:28] LF4, I've got an Asus 23" .. its teh sex. [03:28] LF4, I want a vacation :| [03:28] I bought Hanns.G friend bought Acer. His looks alright to me. [03:28] slackytude: me too [03:28] man sex is so much more fun than an asus 23" monitor :D :P [03:28] haha [03:28] quasar: Yeah I have an ASUS 22" and its reallynice [03:29] depends [03:29] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:30] anyone got an opinion on Nagios? or alternatives to it? [03:31] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:31] slackytude: I used it in my former network. It seemed to do a good job for our purpose. [03:31] aye [03:32] geno_ (n=geno@ip-118-90-115-60.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:35] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.3.246.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [03:39] i applied [03:39] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-8-74.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:40] haha nice nix_chix0r [03:40] shah16 (n=shah@121.246.152.157) left irc: "Leaving" [03:42] fuser -km is so useful [03:42] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.3.246.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:43] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:43] nix_chix0r, ping me when your on that show [03:43] I need a laugh [03:44] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:45] "man they're using windows and i was like 'i can't take this any more!'" [03:45] "so i installed linux on all their computers" [03:46] lol [03:46] lol TwinReverb That would be so funny to watch. [03:46] yeah, that'd be fun [03:46] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [03:47] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:50] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [03:51] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:52] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.223.120) joined ##slackware. [03:54] Wow, it's quiet in here now. [03:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJk8ijAUCiI [03:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT-fctr32pE&NR=1 [03:55] hey fire|bird; some life left, it's just getting late [03:56] Action: LF4 is trying to sleep haha [03:56] at work no less. [03:56] LF4: ^^ [03:56] fire|bird: haha ;) yep [03:57] antiwire: Those are cool :) [03:57] redtube [03:57] LF4, heh [03:58] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [03:58] slackytude: How's work going for you? [03:58] oh, never much to do on friday# [03:58] http://imgur.com/E9ppQ.jpg [03:59] Im gotta do documentation, write code, tinker with hp or sumthing [03:59] or just drink coffee and dont do anything [03:59] Oh yeah its friday lol blah... I just started my "thursday". [04:00] haha, nice shifter: http://thereifixedit.com/2009/08/12/epic-kludge-photo-try-explaining-that-when-you-get-pulled-over/ [04:00] Haha fire|bird thats funny I'll have to save that one. [04:01] Seen the shifter one before. [04:04] http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mtxIjWA73qM/SnUFjWb5-aI/AAAAAAAACr8/kEtaJwtjI1k/s1600-h/IMG_2449.JPG [04:04] http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mtxIjWA73qM/SmXH0wdJRkI/AAAAAAAACpA/-X-Yu8J_tRE/s1600-h/IMG_2242.JPG [04:05] what the hell. [04:05] lol antiwire is the first to see the pictures :) [04:05] clover syndrome in a cat? [04:05] i wonder if its possible to scale the console per app. I have 1024x768 framebuffer, but nethack plays in the corner of the screen instead of in the middle and larger [04:06] antiwire: I'm not sure my co-workers showed me this a while back. [04:06] look up clover leaf skull syndrome [04:07] LF4: whoa. :P [04:07] I'm certainly not sleeping tonight. [04:07] antiwire: when i changed paths in a Makefile.diff you made for a SlackBuild, patch says it is garbage... or maybe i saved the file wrong.... [04:08] ok? [04:08] the Tome one [04:08] a couple days ago [04:08] it was just the installation paths like LIBDIR [04:08] antiwire: looking it up now. [04:08] Well, time to get going. Have a good {morning|afternoon|evening} everyone. Take care. [04:08] fire|bird: later [04:09] see ya LF4 [04:09] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "I'm Leaving" [04:09] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [04:10] violet (n=violet@cpc2-nfds9-0-0-cust168.lei3.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [04:10] what happened to SlackwareGallery.com? it looks like some corporate site now [04:11] dchmelik: its .org [04:11] oh... [04:13] i haven't been on irc for ages.... doing /list *slackware* didn't list anything - have I got the command right? [04:14] violet: use /msg alis *slackware* [04:15] /msg alis *slackware* [04:15] oops [04:15] that didn't work either. [04:15] if i change a diff and it is just a different size, will that mess it up? [04:15] you put a ' ' space before the / [04:16] dchmelik: mess what up? [04:17] LF4, thanks - I see .. /msg alis offers searching for channels using '*' - I remember /list doing the same ages ago, am I wrong? [04:18] LF4: a diff, like Makefile.diff [04:18] violet: yes list use to but for some reason it is broken. Sorry i forgot to mention its /msg alis list [search] [04:19] got that thanks. [04:20] dchmelik: i guess it would depend on what your doing. unless it checks filesize there shouldn't be a problem but if you hash check it then it will be different. [04:20] pastbin the diff [04:21] LF4, what do you use for irc, xchat? I remember there was a way you could tell what client the user was using. [04:22] violet: irssi [04:22] you can tell what kind the user wants you to think they are using [04:22] ? [04:22] mIRC!!! [04:22] violet: version me [04:23] antiwire, how? [04:23] http://pastebin.com/d7614a7d0 (looks like it might have got cut off after '2: system definitions') [04:24] line 19 is garbage... [04:24] you messed it up [04:24] and line 3 [04:25] i left those lines as they are [04:25] i have not used patch in a long time [04:26] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [04:26] the pastbin is screwing it up then [04:26] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-228-113.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:27] those lines need to have @@ starting them and ending them [04:27] it is like that in my main file too for some reason... i do not know why [04:27] thanks, i will change that [04:27] antiwire, how do I 'version' you? [04:27] luceroz (n=luceroz@76.31.194.150) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:28] violet: you just did [04:28] luceroz (n=luceroz@76.31.194.150) joined ##slackware. [04:28] violet: type /verson [name] [04:28] violet: My point was that you can version people but you can't take that as fact because version strings can be manipulated [04:29] antiwire, I see. [04:29] hrm [04:29] local privilige escalation for all linux kernels [04:29] pastebin.com has diff syntax highlighting btw [04:29] insta root [04:29] mancha: I tried that, does nto help [04:29] I switched to diff and re-entered the @@ and the pastbin still killed it [04:29] on the original posting [04:30] oh, it kills leading @'s? [04:30] http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/08/13/2022212/Local-Privilege-Escalation-On-All-Linux-Kernels [04:30] it is removing the first set of @@, not the second [04:30] yes [04:30] is this via copy-paste or some auto uploader? [04:30] that is weird [04:30] copy paste... [04:31] and manual entry too. [04:31] i added them in and got 'Hunk #2 FAILED at 68. 1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file Makefile.rej,' but there is no Makefile.rej there.... [04:31] dchmelik: you need to mess with diff and learn it [04:31] yeah... [04:31] the rej will be there somewhere [04:32] look in the directory where the patching would take place [04:32] i did 'updatedb& slocate Makefile.rej.' nothing. [04:32] after the updatedb finished i think [04:32] i did it without forking actually [04:32] ... [04:33] your build directory is in your updatedb path? [04:33] i thought every directory is [04:33] go look where the patching took place. [04:34] i also did find in the SlackBuild directory, but maybe i should check /tmp [04:34] violet_ [04:34] it was in /tmp! [04:34] violet_ (n=violet@cpc2-nfds9-0-0-cust168.lei3.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [04:34] it looks like pastebin may have cut some more out [04:35] i will have to look at the original Makefile [04:35] interesting bug in pastebin - wonder why it doesthat [04:36] saivin (n=saivin@122.167.87.111) left ##slackware. [04:37] violet_ (n=violet@cpc2-nfds9-0-0-cust168.lei3.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [04:37] I think the original diff said DESTDIR=, but pastebin may have said DESTDIR=a, unless i accidentally typed that [04:37] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [04:39] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429256.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:41] v4nelle (n=van@78-57-123.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:42] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [04:42] KidneyBeans kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Everybody is fed up with you troll [04:42] thank god. [04:43] lol only 5hours later. [04:43] :) [04:43] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:43] slackboy needs to work on his response time [04:43] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-61-68-166-254.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:44] I have a feeling the invisible hand was at work, and reading a buffer too [04:44] violet_ (n=violet@cpc2-nfds9-0-0-cust168.lei3.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [04:45] . [04:46] violet_ (n=violet@cpc2-nfds9-0-0-cust168.lei3.cable.ntl.com) left ##slackware. [04:49] luceroz (n=luceroz@76.31.194.150) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:49] luceroz (n=luceroz@76.31.194.150) joined ##slackware. [04:50] antiwire: ;-) [04:50] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-61-68-166-254.bur.connect.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [04:50] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-228-113.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:50] scubacuda (n=rog@netblock-68-183-173-103.dslextreme.com) left irc: "Leaving" [04:51] hehe [04:53] nix4me (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [04:54] the new thinkpads have multi-touch touch pads and the trackpoint [04:54] I like the multitouch feature much. Mu eeepc has that, too [04:55] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-8-74.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:55] What? Thats cool. [04:55] luceroz (n=luceroz@76.31.194.150) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:55] I might go lenovo instead of latitude, a defection after 3 generations of latitudes. [04:55] Hey kid! [04:55] I'm a computer! [04:55] antiwire, good idea. thinkpads are up in space. [04:56] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [04:59] luceroz (n=luceroz@76.31.194.150) joined ##slackware. [05:01] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.223.120) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:01] Aside from the scroll gesture (whihc is 11 different kinds of awesome) I can't say I care for multitouch [05:02] For GIS applications, multitouch zoom is great [05:04] is there a wget class grabber that can be told to ignore robots.txt? wget has no option to ignore it. :( [05:04] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-117-83.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:06] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:07] josefig (n=josefig@200.77.71.13) left irc: "see you around." [05:08] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:08] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:08] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-166-208.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:09] Blikjeham (n=Blikjeha@reson.soleus.nu) joined ##slackware. [05:10] Quiznos: you can write one in python :) [05:14] -e robots=off [05:14] not in manpage; bastages [05:14] i dont like to reinvent! [05:15] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:16] it's in the info page [05:16] there should be one and only one way to slurp the net!!! [05:16] ty [05:17] this bifurcated documentation systems is also most annoying. [05:18] and yes, i do have a complaint about almost everything; if you arent complaining then you're compromising :) [05:18] and you're also not pondering! [05:19] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [05:23] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-117-139.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:25] Riley (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: [05:27] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:29] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-177-139.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [05:30] Anyone in here submerged their mobo and such in oil? [05:30] Breaded. Fried. Enjoyed. [05:30] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@87.76.95.163) joined ##slackware. [05:34] Kaapa__ (n=Somethin@bl6-195-113.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:34] hmmm [05:34] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-166-208.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:34] Nick change: Kaapa__ -> Kaapa [05:39] not with an expectation of reuse :) [05:39] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:40] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [05:41] i'm guessing it only lasts for a short period of time before it goes wrong xD [05:42] mineral oil should be ok [05:42] Kaapa__ (n=Somethin@bl11-117-96.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:42] it's similar to transformer oil [05:42] i'd love to give it a go, if only to get over one out of my two big weak points [05:43] I do not trust anything I put together when combined with electricity xD [05:43] oh and of course to scare my mother big time [05:44] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [05:44] I guess it really is slack if you have to use oil [05:44] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [05:45] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-117-139.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:46] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@5e0096dd.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:51] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207160135.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [05:53] Hi [05:53] has any one installed opera 10.beta3 under current? 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[06:11] i cant grab the source from the link ...wondered if i can use newer source [06:14] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-xdmpglaahlpwjtdj) left irc: [06:16] Nick change: init[0] -> init[4] [06:16] bell_bell, usually, yes [06:16] Action: init[4] waves o/ to slackers , [06:16] y0 init[4] [06:16] yo slackytude ,howdy :) [06:17] ^-^ [06:17] init[4]: :)hey [06:17] slackytude: >>-(-_-)-> [06:18] i just edit the slackbuild file slackytude and replace the old version with the new ? [06:18] LF4: you,no work today ? [06:18] yo^ [06:18] init[4]: I'm at work right now :) [06:19] LF4: I'm impressed with the dedication you have towards work :P [06:20] init[4]: Yes I know it's very difficult not to fall asleep :) [06:20] o_O [06:20] lol [06:20] Riley (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [06:21] init[4]: graves+nothing to do = boredom [06:21] LF4: are you seriously ,working in graves ? [06:21] In a way that is a really good thing. It means ATT's site is functioning right and our scripts are working. [06:21] init[4]: Grave shift [06:21] LF4: there's always something to do on graves - even if it's watching hulu or reading up on python 3.x :) [06:22] of course, you can always catch up with /. [06:22] alisonken1noc: I know thats what I do but there is only so much you can take in 9 hours. :) [06:22] I don't really follow news much. [06:22] Catoptro1ancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:22] ./ is not news [06:22] it's entertainment [06:22] reallove_ (i=reallove@free-shell.eu) joined ##slackware. [06:23] aa,LF4 better start using google reader, [06:23] lol [06:23] LF4: and subscribe to most of the feeds, so you will have smthing to read :) [06:24] or in my case - catch up with the backlog of bad disks that someone(s) keep forgetting to keep up with [06:24] Action: init[4] goes for a tea, [06:24] Action: alisonken1noc goes for coffee [06:24] stamp, yes [06:24] stamp, fire|bird [06:25] the only problem with stamp is they call it "stamp basic" - which reminds me of "business basic" [06:25] reallove (i=reallove@unaffiliated/reallove) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:25] Nick change: reallove_ -> reallove [06:26] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:29] Thom1_ (n=Thom1@17.102.87-79.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [06:31] Action: Quiznos should go to sleep [06:32] Action: LF4 tells Quiznos sudo make me a sandwich. [06:32] sudo: you don't have permission - you will be logged [06:32] k [06:33] kernel backtracking to accept belated perms. [06:34] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:34] Thom1 (n=Thom1@17.102.87-79.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:36] laters all [06:36] bell_bell (n=sfgerg@host81-157-33-25.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [06:36] bye violet [06:36] violet (n=violet@cpc2-nfds9-0-0-cust168.lei3.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [06:38] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [06:38] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:39] rachael (n=rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [06:40] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:43] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za expired. [06:43] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [06:43] have any of you tried *fbxine* [06:43] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [06:44] i get *Video port failed* error , [06:44] try -V [06:44] need to chose a grafix mode to use, fb, xv, etc [06:45] -V help i think [06:45] Quiznos: i'm running xine from tty terminal,it requires X [06:45] to run xine [06:45] not console? [06:45] not:( [06:45] no [06:46] mpl* and fbx* can both play on xv; chk their respective mode lists. [06:46] that's why i'm using fbxine [06:46] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) joined ##slackware. [06:46] Quiznos: ok, [06:46] they do for me, ymmv [06:47] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:47] any tool to do batch mp3 tag editing on 12.1 factory install [06:47] duno [06:47] bbl [06:48] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:48] Knightingale: audacity (iirc) [06:48] er, tag editing, not sure [06:49] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.60.93) joined ##slackware. [06:49] don't think audacity can handle multiple files [06:50] audacious, rather [06:51] I dont know if it can or not as I haven't used it.. but I recall it being mentioned a few times when I was looking up some batch operations a while back [06:52] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [06:53] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [06:54] can't find a way to with audacious either. [06:54] mrcheeseycheese (n=mrcheese@host81-153-109-15.range81-153.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [06:55] not to worry i'll get easytag [06:55] Knightingale: i haven't used amarok,but i should have what you're asking about, [06:55] s/i/it/ [06:56] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:58] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-132-78.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [06:59] looks a bit overkill i just want tag editor [07:02] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [07:02] Knightingale: see, there is some tool called Crow_____ [07:02] i forgot the remaing after crow [07:02] Knightingale: do search in freshmeat [07:03] there is smthing called Crow*****,which does more than tagging [07:03] i'll see if easytag is good enough first [07:08] phzin (n=s2@189.57.19.89) joined ##slackware. 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[08:20] Action: theblackbox knows it's kinda OT but it 'aint exactly a hive of activity in here at the moment! (Friday itis?) [08:21] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:21] it's not really OT [08:21] Grouper (n=travis@68.105.173.2) joined ##slackware. [08:21] Nick change: Guest45483 -> CmdLnKid [08:21] Action: theblackbox was hedging bets ;) [08:22] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:22] is there some way i can access exfat partitions from slackware 12.2? [08:22] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest48196 [08:24] Nick change: web_knows -> uebi [08:25] this blows [08:25] lol, not too sure Grouper "exfat"? [08:25] lol [08:25] it's fat64 [08:26] wtf? [08:26] Grouper: * Patched kernel for Exfat (read-only) filesystem support. [08:26] blah stupid thing sent before the rest [08:26] Updated kernel 2.6.28.4 [08:26] Nick change: Guest48196 -> CmdLnKid [08:26] wtf? file sizes over 64gb without having to use ntfs, because i need to read this drive in windows and installing an ext filesystem drive on every windows machine i plug this into just isn't reasonable [08:26] thanks [08:26] hmm [08:27] now i'll have to figure this out [08:27] exfat is M$'s way of useing flash drives since they don't support NTFS. [08:27] they do support ntfs [08:27] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest82054 [08:27] it's just not built for quickly removable drives [08:27] Grouper: I'm tired lol not built for it = not supported :D haha [08:27] i.e. you'll occasionally corrupt the partition removing it [08:28] I don't know why you would want to do that. instead of transfering to a HDD and moving it that way. [08:28] exFAT = Pointless FS [08:28] pointless? [08:28] sure... [08:29] Grouper: Can you give an example where its useful? [08:29] when i need to carry around files larger than 4gb on a removable drive? [08:30] that i'm going to be plugging in to windows machines constantly [08:30] external HDD :) [08:30] what? yeah, that's what it is [08:31] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [08:31] amitav (n=amitav@117.197.246.166) joined ##slackware. [08:31] Nick change: Guest82054 -> CmdLnKid [08:32] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest4085 [08:33] on of you buggers could have told me it was hosts, not resolv.conf =P [08:33] *one [08:34] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-108-73.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:34] theblackbox: sorry didn't even see your question. [08:34] no worries, my mind getting "Fridayed" [08:36] Nick change: Guest4085 -> CmdLnKid [08:37] esb (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:37] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lämnar" [08:37] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest21192 [08:38] esb (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware. [08:39] Thursap (n=bnguyen@113.22.85.223) joined ##slackware. [08:39] does slackware have codename for each version? [08:40] no [08:40] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.74.10) joined ##slackware. [08:40] \o/ [08:41] sidmario_ (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:41] Nick change: Guest21192 -> CmdLnKid [08:42] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest32461 [08:43] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:44] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [08:46] Nick change: Guest32461 -> CmdLnKid [08:47] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [08:47] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest18589 [08:47] does the slackware gonna update the kernel version in current ? [08:48] no [08:48] ALVAN: to? (and probably not no) [08:48] there is a zero day kernel exploit on the market [08:48] when it enters release candidate it "freezes" the version of all software and only updates them unless it's absolutely necessary [08:48] to a secure version [08:48] ALVAN, what exploit? [08:48] ALVAN: users are able to upgrade themselves [08:48] http://blog.cr0.org/2009/08/linux-null-pointer-dereference-due-to.html [08:49] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Connection timed out [08:49] morning all. [08:49] TGIF! [08:49] heaumer, many dont know how to do it ,, and usually the distro must do it [08:50] morning agentc0re [08:50] agentc0re: o/ [08:51] Action: BP{k} mooches of to beer [08:51] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:51] ALVAN, wow you really are disconnected with the typical user base of Slackware [08:51] Nick change: Guest18589 -> CmdLnKid [08:51] but whatever, if this is a security bug, and it's fixed on 2.6.30.3, i'm sure patrick will patch [08:52] that was put out 20 July 2009 [08:52] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest82790 [08:52] oh wait i know what this is [08:52] terinjokes: if you don't have a bootable cd. the iskette was the original boot methofdhe didnt used to be 10-6 [08:52] this is cheddar bay [08:52] Isn't that exploit a local exploit? [08:53] terrapin (n=unknown@unaffiliated/dedhed) left irc: "leaving" [08:53] yeah it's a local exploit [08:53] ScreamerX (n=screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [08:53] Dominian, yes is local but is still an exploit [08:53] bah [08:53] make sure you trust the users using your machine. [08:53] we don't run the software called out in the original cheddar bay exploit (i.e. pulse audio) [08:53] grsecurity would help prevent that bug from being used btw [08:53] much less that exploit code won't compile [08:53] TwinReverb, is not the cheddar bay exploit [08:53] well the cheddar bay guy claims grsec didn't help [08:53] uh huh [08:53] it links to the cheddar bay [08:54] IceW (n=sartori@189-18-161-36.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Connection timed out [08:54] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [08:54] http://blog.cr0.org/2009/08/linux-null-pointer-dereference-due-to.html says see http://lwn.net/Articles/342330/ which links to http://lwn.net/Articles/341773/ which is cheddar bay [08:54] mmmm cheddar [08:55] hi [08:55] http://pastebin.com/d2a498f7 [08:55] why? [08:55] Action: LF4 likes swiss better [08:55] ALVAN: that's slackware not ubuntu :p [08:55] is similar to it but it does not depend on pulseaudio ..try it [08:55] heaumer, :P [08:56] my user is in group "users" but its not listed in /etc/group [08:56] local exploit != me worrying. [08:56] Nick change: Guest82790 -> CmdLnKid [08:56] if someone packaged that local exploit into a flash ad, it wouldn't matter because i run NoScript and AdBlockPlus 8-) [08:56] ScreamerX : it's that user's primary group [08:57] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest82264 [08:57] Action: TwinReverb doesn't know of any Slackware Linux users who can't compile their own kernel [08:57] ananke: in which file can i find the users primary group? [08:57] ScreamerX : /etc/passwd [08:57] well maybe except my friend who i installed Slackware Linux on her laptop LOL [08:57] lol [08:58] ananke: i see. thank you [08:59] TwinReverb: apparently quite a few can't because they keep coming in here to ask questions -_- [08:59] Bart_S (n=Shan@b70044.upc-b.chello.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [09:00] quasar, if you ask me how to compile a kernel i'll back-hand you 8-) [09:00] TwinReverb: how 2 tell if kernel is 32 or 128bit plx??? [09:00] teacher teach me :) lol I've done my own kernel once lol a few years back :P can't remember how to now. [09:00] Action: TwinReverb stabs quasar >8-) [09:01] Action: TwinReverb stabs LF4 >8-) [09:01] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:01] actually i could do like back when i first joined this channel [09:01] quasar: how to tell = dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/console [09:01] quasar, LF4 RTFM [09:01] RTFM is sooo obsolite.. STFW pwns. [09:01] HAHAHA [09:01] Nick change: Guest82264 -> CmdLnKid [09:01] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:01] Action: LF4 deflects TwinReverb's stab }:) [09:02] Action: TwinReverb is now known as RTFM>STFW [09:02] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [09:02] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest85692 [09:02] Nick change: quasar -> STFW [09:02] :D [09:02] Nick change: TwinReverb -> RTFM [09:02] bwahahahaha [09:02] greetings from northern Canada [09:02] higuita, RTFM [09:03] STFM = Society of Teachers of Family Medicine lol :P [09:05] RTFM, that is not pulseaudio .. that is a way a NULL pointer reference gets handled ... it could have just as easily been mysql [09:05] Nick change: LF4 -> STFU [09:05] lol [09:05] ALVAN, rtfm [09:05] STFU, rtfm [09:05] Nick change: RTFM -> RTFM-BOT [09:06] Action: theblackbox opens a can of Whoop-ass [09:06] s/RTFM/STFW/ [09:06] sh: Operation: command not found [09:06] Nick change: Guest85692 -> CmdLnKid [09:06] Action: STFU owns RTFM & STFW [09:07] omg not true! stfw will get you to the FM so you can R it ! [09:07] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest77114 [09:07] Action: theblackbox realizes he can't remember how to compile a kernel so SsTFU [09:07] o.O [09:07] theblackbox: STFW [09:07] amitav (n=amitav@117.197.246.166) left irc: Connection reset by peer [09:07] theblackbox, rtfm [09:08] Action: STFU theblackbox [09:08] lol [09:08] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:08] RTFM-BOT: if alien sees this he's probably gonna kick us :x [09:08] Nick change: STFW -> quasar [09:08] If only [09:08] Action: RTFM-BOT kicks STFW [09:08] Nick change: STFU -> LF4 [09:08] Action: theblackbox goes and "Searches The Fucking Web" ..... ..... The _Fucking_ Web? you sure? [09:08] Nick change: RTFM-BOT -> TwinReverb [09:08] if you put that in google you're probably NOT going to get what you want [09:08] like Adult Friend Finder!? [09:08] yeah figures [09:09] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:09] i have friends who are adults and i have found them ... no need for AFF [09:09] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "reboot (for hw upgrade)" [09:09] lol TwinReverb [09:09] were they on google? [09:09] they were on Facebook [09:09] quasar: no myspace :P [09:09] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [09:09] as opposed to Armbook [09:10] or LegBook [09:10] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.74.10) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:10] theblackbox: besides Rosey Palm? [09:10] there probably is an AssBook and it's probably gay pr0n [09:11] TwinReverb: why don't you find out for us? [09:11] lol [09:12] no thanks, i'm not even curious [09:12] there isn't -_- [09:12] I tried searching for it last night [09:12] Haha never mind quasar already checked [09:12] Action: theblackbox races to his godaddy account [09:12] i've reached the end of curiosity before and there was a cat at the end of it that was half dead. i asked him what happened and he said "RTFM" [09:12] there is a "rate my assbook" though [09:12] HAHA [09:12] lol [09:13] TwinReverb: was this the cat? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mtxIjWA73qM/SmXH0wdJRkI/AAAAAAAACpA/-X-Yu8J_tRE/s1600-h/IMG_2242.JPG [09:13] Action: theblackbox remembers finding http://www.deadgirlsdontsayno.com ...... !!! [09:13] must ... resist ... curiosity ... [09:13] LOL!! [09:13] >.< [09:13] omg that's a cat? o.O [09:13] it was a castle wolfenstein site! go figure [09:14] should i say off topic ? [09:14] lol [09:14] say ##slackofftopic [09:14] ok [09:14] say ##slackofftopic [09:15] Action: LF4 is in sot :) [09:15] 0mg cut & p4st3 j00 r teh 1337 [09:15] DeeeeP: No time stamp? [09:15] fail! [09:16] declutter != fail [09:16] need to shift to get it [09:16] im too lazy for that :^) [09:16] lol [09:16] I say fail based on him not saying it! [09:16] Careful don't fall out of your chair when you shift. [09:17] ++ quasar :D [09:17] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:17] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [09:19] Nick change: Guest77114 -> CmdLnKid [09:19] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest87909 [09:23] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [09:24] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:25] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [09:25] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-183-177.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[09:39] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [09:40] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:40] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [09:40] alicephilippa (n=alice@host86-150-143-251.range86-150.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:40] koriel (n=koriel@dcipher.static.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:40] another netsplit? [09:41] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [09:41] Hello! [09:41] bnhashmi (n=bnhashmi@64.208.214.225) joined ##slackware. [09:41] Thursap (n=bnguyen@113.22.85.223) left irc: "leaving" [09:42] hi guys my monitor goes in power-saving/sleep mode how i can make it off [09:42] hi there, I just installed slackware 12.2 and upgrade the kernel to 2.6.30...I'm attached an external usb ntfs drive and transfering some files and my system is really slow...top shows that 2.9 GB of ram is used...any ideas? [09:42] koriel, ntfs-3g is slow? i dunno [09:42] koriel, use the top program to find what's sucking your RAM [09:43] I mean If Itry to open another program is slow..the transfer is fine... [09:43] you can use the > to move the sort column from CPU% to MEM% [09:43] how can I sort top by memory usage? [09:43] RaNdY (i=randy@shellium/member/randy) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:43] you lsof [09:43] lsof? [09:43] koriel: F6 [09:43] init[4] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:44] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [09:44] koriel: Might I guess taking a walk or going to get a drink while it transfers. [09:44] if you are transfering files it can be normal for programs to load and run slower [09:45] but is it normat to have 2.9GB of ram used only by transfering files and chating with xchat? [09:45] can be [09:45] linux is strong on keeping memory usage to max [09:46] hi guys my monitor goes in power-saving/sleep mode how i can make it off [09:46] ok.. [09:46] bnhashmi, man xset [09:46] bnhashmi, also xscreensaver-demo [09:46] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [09:47] bnhashmi: turn the monitor off. [09:47] LF4: good joke ;) [09:47] koriel, if you run top and press 'm' does it show that a program is using a large ammount of ram? [09:47] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:50] koriel, also how much does 'free' say is buffered/cached? [09:50] is there any howto for minimal xorg installation on slackware, please? [09:51] tomekh: install the x* packages. 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[09:55] alisonken1noc: Thats cool :) [09:55] that's easy, it's called keys rather than passwords [09:55] what TwinReverb said [09:56] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [09:56] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:56] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:56] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [09:56] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [09:56] Never quiet understood how to use SSH Keys lol I've read about it and have some idea but thats it. [09:57] it's great [09:57] can just ssh/scp with no pass [09:58] dive: That's if the system has the public key on it correct? [09:58] google 'ssh no password' there are quite a few pages [09:58] positron` (n=positron@89.152.185.234) joined ##slackware. [09:58] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207160135.chello.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [09:58] LF4, well I wouldn't know if it's a public key as such [09:59] but only a system with ~/.ssh/authorized_keys(2) can login [10:00] positron` (n=positron@89.152.185.234) left irc: Client Quit [10:02] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [10:06] eOliva (n=dutche@189-039-007-100.static.spo.ctbc.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:09] LF4: I wrote a bit about setting up passwordless ssh login as part of a larger article: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=linux:rsnapshot#configuring_the_backup_server [10:11] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [10:12] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [10:13] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:14] hello all - I have a computer running 12.2 - current and I was wondering if it is possible to move to the slackware64-current by using slackpkg [10:17] its either 12.2 or -current.. not both [10:18] and is your processor 64bit capable? [10:18] and no, I personally do not reocmmend updating from a 32bit install to 64bit. [10:19] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:19] it is current, although it started out as 12.2 . . . [10:19] yes 64bit processor [10:19] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [10:21] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:21] actually I have 12.2 on one partition and current on another, but that's another story . . . [10:22] Emeau-cat__ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:45] eviltux (i=eviltux@eviltux.com.mx) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [10:46] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [10:46] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:47] on a fresh slackware-current install clock is slowing down. the only thing that i can imagine having changed - made soundcard modules loaded at the startup. could that create such an effect ? [10:47] using -huge kernel, but with modules package installed [10:49] Richlv -- soundcard modules are an unlikely source of the problem [10:49] it is delayet by 8 seconds every minute [10:49] delayed [10:50] is it a slackware-only box or are you dualbooting? [10:50] slack-only [10:50] and delay does not happen at a reboot, it is constant [10:50] at first i blamed it in ntpd, but i shut it down and the problem persists [10:50] on [10:50] the battery on you mobo may be bad [10:51] well, the machine is like 2 weeks old :) (while that's not impossible, of course) [10:51] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [10:51] it's not likely either [10:51] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:51] those batts last next to forever [10:51] besides, i'd expect bad battery to impact time keeping when shut down [10:52] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:52] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:53] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) left irc: "bye" [10:53] missyjane (n=camgirl@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [10:54] it's quite constant. delayed 8.06 seconds every minute [10:54] slackware default kernel... [10:55] hmmm... i'm still trying to figure out what might cause that [10:55] I had a problem with clock running too fast once, but that was a custom kernel [10:55] you could set time in bios, reset it in slack, and see if that fixes it [10:55] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:56] Richlv, this only started when you changed something to do with sound card modules? [10:56] but 8 secs a minute is pretty extreme [10:56] you've got a time leak ;) [10:57] dive, well, i didn't notice when it did actually start happening [10:57] i just remember the last thing i did that was connected to the kernel in any way [10:57] can you undo it and test? [10:57] seems like i remember this in an xfiles episode [10:59] so, what did mulder do? [10:59] yeah, just removed whole bunch of sound related modules [10:59] let's see what happens in a couple of minutes :) [11:00] Richlv, your time setting in bios and in system are in sync, yes? [11:00] ViN86 (n=ViN86@cpe-72-228-59-183.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:01] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [11:02] hoobop, what do you refer to as 'time setting' ? [11:02] utc/localtime ? [11:02] even if it wasn't, that wouldn't cause such a drift... [11:02] looks like removing the modules did not help [11:02] so that's not the cause apparently [11:03] agreed, it's a pretty huge drift; i'm just wondering if the BIOS time setting is the same as the desktop display, etc [11:03] "time setting" being ? :) [11:04] you can set the time in your BIOS, right? [11:04] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [11:04] that's what i mean [11:04] yes, but that would be synced by hwclock upon boot/shutdown [11:04] but it's drifting while running :/ [11:04] and you haven't recompiled kernel? [11:05] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:06] eviltux (i=eviltux@eviltux.com.mx) joined ##slackware. [11:08] dive, nope [11:08] went the lazy way this time [11:08] and machine isn't heavily loaded or something [11:08] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [11:08] load averages < 0.2 [11:09] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Client Quit [11:10] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8980D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [11:10] makerc (n=makerc@200-158-26-170.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:11] does it happen with the generic kernel too? [11:12] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:13] Tirili (n=opera@dslc-082-083-153-223.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [11:13] Hey [11:16] sahko, meaning vanilla one ? [11:16] i'd have to compile it :) [11:16] i think i'll try booting from some livecd first. on monday :) [11:17] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [11:17] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Client Quit [11:17] Richlv: no, i mean the generic ones Slackware ships with. the ones needing an initrd. not the huge one [11:18] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [11:18] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Client Quit [11:18] on 32bit that would be generic-smp [11:18] haven't tried that yet. didn't want to bother with initrd... [11:21] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.76.217) joined ##slackware. [11:21] well a quick (ha!) google search of 'linux clock loses time' shows you're not alone -- but that's about it [11:21] no recommendations worth passing on [11:22] genericFlounder (n=genericF@adsl-99-130-197-12.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] josefig (n=josefig@200.77.71.13) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:23] dive, found the little issue regarding my narcoleptic lappy. thanks for the heads up. [11:23] luceroz (n=luceroz@76.31.194.150) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:23] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.7.22) joined ##slackware. [11:24] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [11:24] genericFlounder, yw [11:24] argh... [11:25] turns out it was my little boo-boo that caused it (whodathunkit?). saw some strange errors regarding the acpi_handler.sh, which I had previously commented out lines in to disable my power button. turns out that was enough to throw a little glitch into the system. uncommented the lines and all is well. [11:25] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.152) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:27] you created your own acpi_handler.sh? iirc slack doesn't have a default one except for the power button [11:28] alienBOB: Thanks for the link on passwordless ssh :) [11:30] mancha, nope - it was the default acpi_handler. i commented part of it out because i didn't like the idea of accidentally bumping my button and halting the system. [11:30] RaNdY (i=randy@use.the.force.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [11:30] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:30] RaNdY kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: I hate badly written bots [11:31] but now that it's back to the way it was originally, no more narcolepsy. weird. [11:31] Nick change: Guest87909 -> CmdLnKid [11:31] you can comment the event/handler lines in /etc/acpi/events/default if you want [11:31] hmmm... cool. i'll take a look thanks. [11:32] genericFlounder, commenting out something in an if or case could mean that the test will always fail/succeed and any acpi event might trigger it [11:32] that's a catch-all for all events but slack only handles power by default. [11:33] needless to say, you can set up all kinds of event/action trigglers in that dir i gave, for anything you'd like to do say lid closing, ac disconnecion, etc [11:34] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:34] dive, that's quite nice to know... makes sense of the situation now. [11:34] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: "Leaving" [11:35] mancha, cool this looks handy. [11:35] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:36] right, for example, you can have a script run when disconnect AC power, for example put drive in more aggressive power mgmt mode, or something else to conserve battery. anyways, if you're interested there are acpi tutorials out there [11:36] rockin'. i'll do a bit of reading then, thanks! [11:38] Pagan_Soul (n=australu@200-113-188-11.static.tie.cl) joined ##slackware. [11:41] stillborn (n=millax@88.193.113.46) joined ##slackware. [11:41] hello [11:42] hola [11:42] i want to download all .txz packages from X folder in mirror with wget, but i don't know the syntax [11:42] fiyawerx_ (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:43] quasar (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:43] Nick change: fiyawerx_ -> fiya_werkin [11:43] wget usr/ [11:43] er [11:43] wget this. [11:43] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:43] wget URL/slackware-current/slackware/x/\*.txz ? [11:43] Nick change: quasar -> Guest31546 [11:43] no, that won't work [11:44] it should on some mirrors, no? [11:44] Nick change: Guest31546 -> quasar [11:44] not in http mode [11:44] rsync is probably the easiest :> [11:45] you want to use the accept list, -A.tgx or something [11:45] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) joined ##slackware. [11:45] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:45] er, txz (sorry new suffix i still haven;t memorized: [11:45] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [11:45] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left ##slackware. [11:46] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:46] mancha: that will only get index.html [11:47] dakarn (n=skas@93.68.46.11) joined ##slackware. [11:47] what will? i didn't type a whole command line, ony gave youa hint of the needed flag [11:47] o/ hey hey hey [11:47] wget -A.txz [11:48] Grouper (n=travis@68.105.173.2) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:48] Dominian: I keep getting the error "Impossible to move." when trying to upload to the gallery. [11:48] rsync -va --progress URL::slackware/slackware-current/x/ xorg-crap/ [11:48] try: wget -r -A.txz url [11:49] I've slackware 12.2. How to update to the current? [11:49] yeah, will downloads all other folders content too [11:49] Rich^ (n=rich@81.94.235.186) joined ##slackware. [11:49] Emeau-cat__ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:49] adeodatus: wait for 13 to come out, then follow the updgrade.txt [11:50] yeah!! [11:50] adeodatus: slackpkg is easiest [11:51] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:51] i was just reading over the slackpkg current method. looks very convenient. any big problems show up using that method? [11:52] there will not be much (any?) difference between -current right now, and 13 when it's out [11:52] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.76.217) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [11:52] so where in c:\ do i install linux [11:52] ... [11:52] C:\clue [11:52] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.76.217) joined ##slackware. [11:52] C:\windows\ [11:52] I will wait for the 13 release!! [11:52] genericFlounder: nope; just be sure to do all of the steps (like installing the new packages, and the config files to merge) [11:52] ok cool. [11:53] when i click on C:\windows it tells me modifying this file can be unsafe [11:53] do i continue? [11:53] yes [11:53] k now what do [11:53] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [11:53] i just downloaded the files from slackpackages.com [11:54] neur0sys (n=neur0sys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) joined ##slackware. [11:54] you have to replace your system32 folder with the one from linux.. so go ahead and do that but make sure you hold shift when you delete, otherwise it wont let you install the linux files in system32 [11:54] i smell trolling. anyways, off to emails... [11:54] Rich^_ (n=rich@81.94.235.186) joined ##slackware. [11:54] LF4: hrm [11:54] LF4: When did you try the upload? [11:55] hi i am new to slackware and have been installing many applications using slackbuilds. When trying to build the wine package it causes my computer to power off, everything else i have done seems fine. However i am looking on wines website and i can see slackware packages which are quite recent (http://sourceforge.net/projects/wine/files/Slackware%20Packages/) however it states slackpackages for slackware 10.2 [11:55] Dominian: Just a few mins ago. [11:55] windows cannot open tar.gz files how [11:55] i take it i shouldnt install them on 12.2 evn though they are recent [11:55] LF4: what was the name of the image? [11:56] Dominian: LF4-Setup-2009-08-14.jpg [11:56] gaz the computer powers off while compiling? could it be a cpu overheat? [11:56] gaz: power off means overheating due to heavy compile, I'd say, rather than a software issue. [11:56] Dominian: I also tired the URL upload and it gave me the same message. [11:56] hrm [11:56] LF4: try it again [11:57] Dominian: Still same error. [11:57] wtf [11:57] mancha, neur0sys i am not too sure everything else appears fine. Ive compiled other things without an isue and it does not appear abnormally hot [11:57] i am not convinced that is the issue although i will look into it further [11:58] LF4: give me the URL [11:58] I need to try and recreate the problem [11:58] gaz, at what point does it power down? [11:59] Dominian: http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2169/lf4setup20090814.jpg [11:59] i am not sure its done it a few times if i am honest i have not watched it continiously whilst its making the package however i am sure its during the make [11:59] well hell.. [11:59] again i prolly need to watch it although i does take a while [11:59] Dominian: Same error? [11:59] it* [11:59] done it about 3 times tho [11:59] LF4: yeah [11:59] where is the monitor for the white case [12:00] LF4? [12:00] it done it before from a cold start also [12:00] gaz, have you compiled a kernel on that machine? [12:00] mancha, no [12:00] dakarn: KVM all three... its on top of the router and switch. [12:00] mancha, default 12.2 kernel [12:00] ok, i still think it is overheating, you probably haven't compiled anything as intense as wine [12:00] gaz: check your /proc/acpi/thermal though during the make just in case. [12:01] Rich^__ (n=rich@81.94.235.186) joined ##slackware. [12:01] i asked about the kernel becuase if you had done that fine then i would discard overheating from compiles, nothing is heavier than a kernel :) [12:01] neur0sys, will do [12:01] mancha, makes sense [12:01] i might compile one but not use it just to test [12:02] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:02] gaz: I'd try a memtest86+ too. [12:02] stillborn (n=millax@88.193.113.46) left ##slackware. [12:03] no fatal software error could escape an OS exception handler to cause a powerOFF, I think. [12:03] also following on from my above question out of curiosity would installing one of the official wine slackware packages from there website (http://sourceforge.net/projects/wine/files/Slackware%20Packages/) which are from june this year but state they are for slackware 10.2 be considered bad practice [12:03] i assume so but it seems unusual that they are that recent for that particular version of slackware [12:03] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx08856.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [12:04] LF4: give me a bit.. not sure what is causing the error [12:05] Dominian: No problem :) I seem to break things when I try to use them. [12:05] shah16 (n=shah@121.246.152.157) joined ##slackware. [12:05] Rich^__ (n=rich@81.94.235.186) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:05] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) joined ##slackware. [12:05] gaz, they might not work depending on the libs used [12:05] i thought as much [12:05] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. [12:06] am i correct in thinking checkinstall is no longer supported for slackware 12.2 or has the issues that were experienced been resolved [12:06] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [12:06] the reason why i ask is that i would like to create a package when i compile from source [12:06] instead of doing a make install [12:07] gaz, you might try limiting the load in your make command in the slackbuild, replace make with make -l .5 [12:07] mancha, ill certainly try that [12:07] i cant see a /proc/acpi/thermal but i do have a /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZS0/temperature [12:08] nimrod (n=nimrod@084202064176.customer.alfanett.no) left irc: "Leaving" [12:08] gaz: yes, I just shortened the path. [12:08] Hey fire|bird :) [12:09] i take it thats my cpu [12:09] firebird where is my sexy slackytude at :( [12:09] anyone advise what temperature there are running at so ican compare [12:09] hi fire|bird [12:10] gaz, mine under no load is 45°C [12:10] during make mine goes up to almost 90°C [12:10] :O [12:10] gaz: you tell us yours [12:10] gaz, the temps are cpu dependent, look for your cpu's spec sheet for operating ranges [12:10] mines around 99 [12:11] y0 LF4 [12:11] oh shi.. [12:11] ooooh.... [12:11] hey thrice` [12:11] that's hot [12:11] is that a laptop? [12:11] greetings dive [12:11] neur0sys, yer [12:11] it triggers a shutdown at 100 i bet [12:11] fire|bird, hi [12:11] wouldn't happen to be a dell? [12:11] hp [12:11] just crack its case open up and give a huge blow to the cpu fan. [12:11] gaz, are your fans not on, or something? [12:12] its hard to tell [12:12] cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZS0/temperature [12:12] temperature: 105 C [12:12] lol [12:12] it's killing your CPU away right now [12:12] jees [12:12] guess i need to look into this further [12:12] thats not good gaz [12:12] i'm curious as to whether or not there's a module which needs to be loaded for your fans gaz... [12:12] you could boil a water on that. [12:12] on my dell i have to load i8k for them to operate. [12:12] my laptop wasn't even running that hot when I was having heat problems. :P [12:12] well there's the 'fan'dule [12:13] root@slackware:/home/gareth/Desktop/slackware/slackbuilds.org# cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZS1/temperature [12:13] temperature: 77 C [12:13] fan module [12:13] gaz, lsmod | gep fan [12:13] grep* [12:13] lsmod | grep fan [12:13] grep* [12:13] didnt return anything [12:13] ahhh [12:13] modprobe fan [12:13] modprobe fan [12:13] echo [12:13] echo! [12:13] gaz : /proc/acpi/fan [12:14] not its shown [12:14] echo cho ho o [12:14] is there an *echo* in the channel? :P [12:14] don't most lappies have bios-controlled fans anyways? [12:14] mancha: yes [12:15] mancha, yes usually you have to load fan module purposely with options to override bios control [12:15] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:15] gaz, you should know if the fans are on/off. when on they make noise and blow air out the exhaust [12:15] how air too [12:15] hot* [12:15] ive mod probed fan its loaded but theres nothing in /proc for it [12:16] gaz, no it doesn't always show at that location [12:16] bbl [12:16] anyway gtg bbl [12:16] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:16] later dive [12:16] later [12:17] gaz: doesn't have a pc, but a stove. [12:17] haha [12:17] lol [12:17] LF4: Or, he's sitting in his car and the air isn't working. :P [12:17] I'd open the laptop's case in any case. [12:17] lol [12:17] yeah im looking into it [12:18] i can hear a fan but i think its situated in a really poor place [12:18] fire|bird: I've done that before when it was 90F outside lol and my audi is black. :P [12:18] look into it's monitor and whisper sweet nothing into it's usb ports, that'll cool it down. :P [12:19] LF4: hahaha, I bet that was fun. :P Was it 125F in a short while? :P [12:19] that would get it evenhotter [12:19] neur0sys: haha, maybe. Either way it'd bring an end to the situation. Either cool down or KABOOM. [12:19] gaz, could you hear the fan before you loaded the fan module? [12:19] i think since i modeprobed fan its got loader [12:19] coooool [12:19] Action: Necos is still compiling gtkmm >.<; [12:19] but i cant be sure [12:19] ill reboot [12:19] heya Necos [12:19] or remove the module [12:19] yeah just remove it [12:20] gaz: Can you hear if the fans are running? [12:20] fire|bird: I didn't mind after I rolled the windows down. Just was glad I had my phone as internet for the laptop. [12:20] no sense in restarting for it. [12:20] yeah they are [12:20] Rich^ (n=rich@81.94.235.186) left irc: Success [12:20] gaz: Well, that's a good sign anyway. :P [12:20] LF4: haha [12:20] i think it seems a little cooler to the touch however the temperature is still 105 [12:21] gaz: open it and clean it. laptop fans are mostly dust bags. :-p [12:21] so technically unchanged [12:21] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [12:21] gaz: Yeah, if it's going to cool, it's not going to cool down quickly, you'd have to give it time, just watch to make sure the temp doesn't get any higher. [12:21] i'll second that neur0sys [12:21] ive got TZS0 which is saying 105 and TZS1 is saying 77 [12:22] out of curiosity how come fans is not loaded by default [12:22] lol [12:22] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:22] its a good job its not an amd processor i think it would have fried by now if there is a fan problem [12:23] gaz: Hey, my lappy is AMD you insensitive clod. :P [12:23] haha [12:23] AMD 3200+ [12:23] 64bit [12:23] lol nice fire|bird :) [12:23] im not sure about the new ones but they used to be renowned for dying in seconds if the fan stopped [12:24] Anybody here with a slackware64-current? [12:24] LF4: it will eventually have slack64, just not yet. :/ [12:24] lol still trying to image it? [12:24] watch cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZS0/temperature [12:24] 105 [12:24] i run slackcurrent-64 on my laptop [12:25] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/QoKxkR53.html [12:25] what a wonderful netstat =D [12:25] bbiab [12:25] Anyone knowing of a good web frontend to see/parse/analyse Apache logs (even just logs from the system)? [12:25] i'd like to know why the fan isn't automatically loaded, or at least attempted to be loaded, by default as well. i'm sure there's a pretty sound explanation. [12:25] haldir: Can you try to run a script for Cadsoft Eagle? ftp://ftp.cadsoft.de/eagle/program/5.6/eagle-lin-5.6.0.run [12:25] i think im gonna put a vacuum on all of the venty [12:25] appzer0: OSSEC for a HIDS style one and awstats for apache? [12:25] vents [12:25] haldir: I just have a problem with it. Says no * dir... [12:26] gaz, could it be a bad bios? again, lappie fans are almost always bios controlled [12:26] shik4nt4z4, what is it. i am downloading now [12:26] acidchild: oh thanks, what do you call HIDS btw? [12:27] mancha, true... but my inspiron for example needs i8k to communicate with the bios or it doesn't quite work right.... or at all.... haha.. [12:27] LF4: I got the file upload working [12:27] haldir: It is for PCB making. Electronics [12:27] host intrustion detection system.. [12:27] still working on the URI stuff [12:27] Dominian: ! [12:27] :) hihi [12:27] Dominian: Nice what was the issue? [12:27] acidchild: OK then, thanks very much [12:27] appzer0: ossec.net [12:28] generic, hrmm, i've heard of the dells andthei8 thing, thats to override underperforming bios fan control, right? [12:28] yup [12:28] you'd figure they'd just fix the bios [12:28] ya know? :P [12:28] I have installed Slackware 12.2 "full" on my pc. Can I find the sources of kopete on my harddisk now? Is it a part of Slackware? [12:29] And if so, where is it stored? [12:29] Tirili: Sources are not cp to HDD. [12:29] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [12:29] Tirili: If you need them get from the CD. [12:29] ok, but they are on a cd? [12:29] ok [12:29] Do you know, which of the 3 cds? [12:29] Tirili: they are on the DVD, or if you used CD's, the last 3 CD's [12:30] guys many thanks for your help im gonna reboot and try and suck any dust from the vents etc [12:30] ill be back in 5 ill let ya know how i get on [12:30] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:30] haldir: How is it going? [12:31] I'll have a look.. [12:31] shik4nt4z4, :haldir@theshire:~$ sh eagle-lin-5.6.0.run [12:31] eagle-lin-5.6.0.run: line 107: /tmp/eagle-setup.9039/eagle-5.6.0/bin/eagle: No such file or directory [12:31] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:32] haldir: That's bad. Thank you! [12:32] Rich^_ (n=rich@81.94.235.186) left irc: Connection timed out [12:32] shik4nt4z4, np [12:35] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78.86.1.110) joined ##slackware. [12:36] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:36] moraw (n=moraw@blx192.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:37] te_ (n=te@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [12:38] What driver module do I need for a ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow] [12:38] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.7.22) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:38] ? [12:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzi4tL3QMWk [12:38] thats awesome. [12:39] hi, why slackware installer didn't create /boot dir after installation? [12:39] sladegen (n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen) joined ##slackware. [12:39] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-110-92.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:40] sladegen (n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen) left ##slackware. [12:40] moraw: cd? usb? dvd? [12:40] dvd [12:41] next to fedora [12:41] i wanted to install slackware and add boot lines into fedora grub [12:42] did you install on top of fedora or in another partition? [12:42] LF4: permissions [12:42] acidchild: sup man! [12:42] ugh, today is going to be a long day. I get to the office and I have 25 new voice mail since yesterday :( [12:42] on other partition [12:43] Dominian: nothing much at this moment in time! working somethings, yourself? [12:43] sluckxz (n=sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] same.. [12:43] moraw: There is a /boot dir made, but it is likely not on a separate partition as some other distros do. [12:44] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [12:44] right ok ive rebooted and not reloaded the fan module and it would appear that it is running anyway. I have vacuumed the vents and at present my temperature is reporting as 50 [12:44] Dominian: i got that vibe =P [12:44] just gonna monitor it now that my lappy is back on [12:45] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:45] CmdLnKid_ (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Nick change: CmdLnKid_ -> CmdLnKid [12:45] i know, i wanted to keep all files on one partition: /boot, /usr etc... [12:45] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest1782 [12:46] acidchild: That vid is awesome. Now I want to buy a cheap motorcycle just to do that. :P [12:46] run this in a term: watch cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZS0/temperature [12:46] mancha, already doing so ;) [12:46] LF4: me too me too :/ [12:46] mancha, gonna try build wine and see what happens [12:46] i used to share a boot with multiple distros, had it in subdirectories and some mount/bind magic, took me a while to figure out but worked great once it was working [12:46] moraw: having all files on one partition is the default option. [12:46] i dunno where he got a locked 750 ninja from though for that cheap. [12:46] mancha, but i reckon your theory of it failing on compilation due to temperature is valid [12:46] then used lvm for the actual os partitions [12:46] Dominian: Oh cool :) glad you fixed it. [12:46] Nick change: Guest1782 -> CmdLnKid [12:46] LF4: some i know is selling a VW tricycle. [12:46] gaz, my make line is not gonna help i fear, don't even bother [12:47] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest46850 [12:47] acidchild: lol no no no... that VW tricycle doesn't look good to me. [12:47] with over 1000cc engine in it.. be a nice gas to electric convertion... plus all the power around here comes from water turbines. [12:47] you've seen one? [12:47] you can have my package if ive not rm'd it yet [12:47] LF4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV4HdsDZX6c [12:47] The problem the electric conversion on a bike is that energy density in batteries is not up to snuff. Ranges are sub 60 miles still. [12:47] other end of the scale... [12:48] acidchild: Otherwise, electric bikes get up & fsckin MOVE. :P [12:48] yeah, first off the line. [12:48] Hahaha acidchild I just know that is going to be a good video by the title :) [12:48] i think i'd suppress the start off on them... maybe a multi stage throttle. [12:48] mancha, while i build wine now i am also writing the output to a log so if it powers off hopefully i can see whats going on [12:49] mancha, whilst building its gone upto 60 at present [12:49] moraw: is there anything in /other/boot/ [12:49] acidchild, i already really want a freakin' bike, and now i want that one. he did an amazing job there. [12:49] eviljames: i guess you could even change the frequency to 'electric breaks' [12:49] anybody seen this? http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/08/13/2022212/Local-Privilege-Escalation-On-All-Linux-Kernels [12:50] sluckxz: yeah, old news. kernel updates are forthcoming. [12:50] yay gaz! looks like your lappy is happy? [12:50] sluckxz: Every kernel since 2.0, iirc [12:50] sluckxz: yeah [12:50] genericFlounder: i knoww... [12:50] =] seems you dont need alot to do it, be curious to the price of them electric motoros. [12:50] -o [12:50] i'm curious too. [12:50] LF4: love how the air intakes look in the smart car. [12:50] 60 is nothing to worry about [12:50] genericFlounder, so far but it hasnt been turned on long since the cool down so im gonna keep an eye on it but at present i am not charging it and am running of battery i think it gets hotter whilst on charge [12:50] acidchild: I ran the numbers on an electric conversion of a geo metro last year, incl. batteries was ~$4000cad [12:51] dakarn: only on fedora partition and all common dirs on slack partition except /boot [12:51] for what A/hr? [12:51] echelon (i=echelon@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x2FEE914F) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:51] moraw: so you don't have a kernel on your slackware partition [12:51] mancha, gonna keep an eye on it but i think ive been pointed in the right direciton many thanks for all of your advice [12:51] dakarn: yes [12:51] http://www.curiosite.com/condometric/enindex.html [12:51] NSFW... well kinda is. [12:51] gaz np, keep an eye on that [12:52] Nick change: Guest46850 -> CmdLnKid [12:52] acidchild: Yeah lol I just like how it looks like they speed up the movie when they don't they car uhhh motorcycl moves that fast. [12:52] dakarn: and i dont know how to get, generate it [12:52] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest33820 [12:53] hehe. i would so love to do a project like that if i knew people who would elbow down and help. [12:53] acidchild: It was using 20 golf cart batteries, so not sure exactly :D [12:53] ahh [12:54] moraw: well you can't boot into slackware so you will have to either 1) use the bootable cd, or 2) attempt to load slackware with the fedora kernel (not recommended) [12:54] Tirili (n=opera@dslc-082-083-153-223.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:54] acidchild: but the range would've been comparable, 75-100km (40-60 miles) or so. [12:54] Tirili (n=opera@dslc-082-083-153-223.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:55] acidchild: I'd guess 200A/hr or so. [12:55] D&D SepEx Electric Motor [12:55] init[3] (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [12:55] acidchild: How's the linode working out? [12:55] it just runs [12:55] and works [12:55] eviljames: Good for city riding but not touring. [12:55] LF4: just an FYI, I wouldn't get too attached to slackwaregallery.org [12:55] Action: Dominian is having to cut back on a few "cost" things.. and that is one thing that may bite the dust. [12:55] LF4: It was a geo metro, so good for day-to-day getting around town. [12:55] acidchild: I love mine [12:55] mancha, its been building for a while and still only at 67 :D [12:55] LOL!! [12:55] acidchild: best mail server I've ever had.. [12:55] LF4: In short: You can have an electric car TODAY for under $10,000. [12:56] Alltrax DCX-600 600 A 24V - 48V 17 hp 3000 $1425 [12:56] Dominian: lol ;) no problem. Do you hose it on your own system's or pay for hosting? [12:56] Alltrax DCX-300 300 A 24V - 48V 13 hp 3000 [12:56] $1050 [12:56] you can get 25HP too for $1525 ->> http://www.electricmotorsport.com/store/ems_ev_parts_motors_sepex.php [12:56] acidchild: that 17hp is a fairly good bit - likely comparable to a 96hp 1.6L gas engine. [12:56] acidchild: So, the kind of thing you'd see in a Hyundai or such. [12:56] LF4: I have it on a VPS a friend provides.. its the registration of the domain that I'm cutting out.. I know it isn't much.. only 8.99 a year, but multiple registrations over the course of a year starts adding up [12:56] Nick change: Guest33820 -> CmdLnKid [12:56] awesome gaz. try it with the power supply attached... it should go into a different power mode, which /should/ mean the fans might kick up a little in speed. mine do anyways. [12:56] LF4: and traffic to the site has dwindled.. [12:57] eviljames: yah :D [12:57] i'm just curious really. [12:57] genericFlounder, good call [12:57] dakarn: how i can get into slac via bootcd? [12:57] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest2827 [12:57] acidchild: Couple that with a good gearbox & $3,000 in batteries, then attach to a frame. [12:57] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-219-235-3.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [12:57] so i dunno 975$ for controler and motor, isn't TOO bad. [12:57] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:58] acidchild: I finally broke down and installed twirssi [12:58] thats like buying a 15HP 4 stroke. [12:58] Dominian: Makes sense, I was looking at getting a domain some time and then using one of my systems for web services. If I get it going I could probably host it. [12:58] LF4: its a lot of data dude [12:58] twirssi? twitter? [12:58] moraw: you booted from dvd right? [12:58] acidchild: yeah [12:58] ew [12:58] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [12:58] w [12:58] ew++; [12:58] Dominian: How much? currently? [12:58] LF4: 266MB [12:58] return ++ew; [12:58] it used to be over 5 gig [12:58] Dominian: No problem I have a 2TB system. [12:58] dakarn: yes [12:58] hehe [12:58] eviljames: http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/ddmotor.htm [12:58] ew--; [12:59] check them out... amazing how much 'clean' control over an electric motor you can have [12:59] I mean if someone wants control over the domain name... I'll allow them to transfer it [12:59] moraw: reinstall package series A [12:59] and I'll host it [12:59] no worries with that [12:59] be wicked to do some PIC programs for that... to do with how you break... [12:59] braking* [12:59] danceb (n=danceb@78.134.12.133) joined ##slackware. [13:00] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@173-18-61-44.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [13:00] Dominian: I see :) [13:00] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs4GXH5Q3Rk <-- ofcourse the japanese have to make one containing more plastic than anything else. :P [13:00] genericFlounder, its been plugged in for a couple of minutes and its rose 1 degree currently 68 seems fine tho [13:01] moraw: you can install the kernel source and compile or reinstall with the dvd installer, but if you don't have a kernel then i'm guessing you're missing a lot more... [13:01] acidchild: we must stop this, I'm starting to get inspired again :P [13:01] genericFlounder, i think part of the problem is that this laptops vents are underneath so if its on your lap it isnt very good [13:01] ive got it on a tray at present [13:01] gaz, sweeeeet. ah yes the underbelly vents don't exactly do their job too well... :P [13:01] Nick change: Guest2827 -> CmdLnKid [13:02] dakarn: ok i'll try, but the end of the installtion was strange, it instaleld the system, asked me to give root pass(it couldn't found passwd) and ordered to reboot pc without asking about lilo/grub [13:02] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest72395 [13:02] gaz, so i'm assuming it's actually compiling past the point where it would shut down before? [13:02] completely different subject now that ive got that sorted, is there a default bootup script where i can perform commands such as rc.local? which icannot see or do i need to create my own in slackware [13:03] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:03] you mean like keeping you fan module loaded....? [13:03] genericFlounder, not sure its been compiling for a while would have thought it would have happened by now :D soon find out tho [13:03] genericFlounder, haha yer that and other things [13:03] but thats a good example [13:04] gotcha [13:04] yeah /etc/rc.d/rc.local [13:05] genericFlounder, cheers im stupid i knew of that file but couldnt see it for some reason so i thought slack used something else but you are correct it is there and i am just impaired [13:05] haha no problem i have my moments constantly :p [13:05] I found instructions for enabling the Intersil ISL3886 at http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/p54 but not sure what to do with the "Enabling p54" part. Can anyone tell me what I really need to do with that? [13:06] Nick change: Guest72395 -> CmdLnKid [13:07] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest42970 [13:07] Action: gaz is trying to remember what he actually wanted to put in his rc.local *forgot* [13:08] modprobe fan ...? :P [13:08] naaa ironically that one ive remembered [13:08] haha [13:09] hi all. can someone explain what does the slackware install script need for creating a list of packages to install? [13:09] init[3] (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) left ##slackware. [13:09] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [13:10] i'm installing slack. from my ftp mirror and it shows up only "A" packages in the list. [13:10] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-110-92.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [13:10] luceroz (n=luceroz@76.31.194.150) joined ##slackware. [13:10] moraw: You exited the process before the install was completely done. You need to boot the DVD and pick up where you left off [13:10] te_ the instructions seem rather straighforwards, te enabling section is telling you the kernel has to have the mac80211 and p54 modules compiled, you can check if you kernel has that [13:10] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: No route to host [13:11] init[3] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [13:11] all the others are missing. i have a complete mirror of slackware current, and all the tagfiles are there. [13:11] i will, thx cya soon ;) [13:11] moraw (n=moraw@blx192.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [13:11] Nick change: Guest42970 -> CmdLnKid [13:12] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest48748 [13:12] cmair (n=cmair@host56-111-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:12] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [13:12] te, go into your /usr/src/linux dir (for your current kernel) and grep CONFIG_MAC80211 and CONFIG_P54, if you get "m" then it means you have them in as modules. [13:12] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [13:12] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-49-119.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Hi [13:13] hey fredoslack [13:13] 'lo [13:13] zgrep CONFIG_MAC80211 /proc/config.gz [13:13] etc [13:14] hi, fire|bird [13:14] danceb (n=danceb@78.134.12.133) left irc: "Leaving" [13:14] (assuming you have /proc/config.gz) else go into your source dir as said earlier. [13:14] (cool, didn't know about zgrep... sweeet) [13:15] neur0sys (n=neur0sys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:16] can anyone reference me to any resource on how to create a tgz of software i have compiled instead of "make installing". I believe checkinstall is no longer supported? [13:16] gFlounder, good deal! [13:16] Nick change: Guest48748 -> CmdLnKid [13:16] gaz slackbuilds.org [13:17] gaz, makepkg will make a .tgz from a dir structure [13:17] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:17] mancha: grep CONFIG_MAC80211 ? [13:17] ananke: ping [13:17] gaz: slackbook.org as well [13:17] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest23581 [13:17] gaz: slackbuilds.org has a pretty great template that can be used though. [13:17] cheers ill look into them [13:17] te_ zgrep CONFIG_MAC80211 /proc/config.gz [13:17] Oh zgrep ok [13:18] gaz: mroe specifically: http://www.slackwiki.org/Writing_A_SlackBuild_Script [13:18] Debian has broken my Windows 7 grrr [13:19] slackware has rescued the boot manager :) [13:19] repair * [13:19] (thanks lilo :p) [13:20] oups [13:20] thanks Slackware !! [13:20] :} [13:21] mancha: Not returning anything yet [13:21] Indeed,its simplicity !!^,where Debian fails :/ [13:22] And I'm assuming that I do not have these modules loaded because the device is not working. [13:22] init[3], yes :) [13:22] Slack works alays [13:22] always [13:23] te_ then you don't have the modules compiled, what colonell are you running? [13:23] it seems 2 CV Citroen :p [13:23] 2.6.27.7 [13:23] your own compile? [13:23] i can confirm since my temp issues that wine built successfully without rebooting :D [13:23] mancha: No, it is stock slackware 12.2 [13:24] what needs to be upgraded before KDE? strigi, akonadi.. and I can't recall the others (if there are any) [13:24] weird i would assume stock slack kernels woudl be built with emyfing [13:24] quasar: 4.2->4.3 ? [13:24] is this the big kernel? [13:24] eviljames, yeah [13:24] sluckxz (n=sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:24] 2.6.27.7-smp [13:24] <3 4.3 [13:24] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:25] Nick change: Guest23581 -> CmdLnKid [13:26] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest36936 [13:26] te_ and you do have the file /proc/config.gz right? [13:26] Yes [13:26] Nick change: Guest36936 -> CmdLnKid [13:27] ok, if youre not getting anytrhing on grep then it's not there. you need a kernel with that compiled in (either in the colonel or as a module) [13:27] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest41419 [13:27] haha, awesome newegg review - "Other Thoughts: I wanted to buy this, but ended up buying a new car for the same price." [13:27] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139022 [13:27] maybe exagerrating a bit but still funny [13:27] fiya_werkin: haha, nice. [13:28] do you have the "huge" colonel there too boot from? [13:28] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72356.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:28] the colonel? [13:28] Action: init[3] o nooo,its an airoplane ,no its an eagle,no its fire|bird !! [13:28] greetings [13:29] haha [13:29] y0 slackytude [13:29] Action: init[3] btw s/fire|bird/superman/ [13:29] hey thumbs [13:29] mancha: Oh the reasond it didn't work is because I needed to use "and" because of the _ character. [13:29] mancha: I just did zgrep "CONFIG_MAC80211" /proc/config.gz and got results [13:30] CONFIG_MAC80211=m [13:30] "and" ? [13:31] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*.at.shellium.org expired. [13:31] okay now zgrep for CONFIG_P54 [13:31] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:31] fire|bird: hola. [13:31] Nick change: Guest41419 -> CmdLnKid [13:32] Any of you know anything about getting a drive to automount when you plug it in? [13:32] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest74621 [13:32] fuzzbawl (n=fuzzbawl@216.23.240.13) left irc: "Leaving" [13:32] if you have those then your colononel is equipped and you just need the firmware which the site you posted has links for. enjoy. [13:32] what's with the colonel? [13:32] zgrep P54 /proc/config.gz returns: [13:33] Tirili (n=opera@dslc-082-083-153-223.pools.arcor-ip.net) left ##slackware. [13:33] colonel kurtz. [13:33] CONFIG_P54_COMMON=m & CONFIG_P54_USB=m & CONFIG_P54_PCI=m [13:33] te, you're good to go on the colonel side of things now worry about getting the right firmware. [13:33] So??? [13:34] Ok I downloaded the firmware. [13:34] But don't quite know what to do with it. [13:35] it tells you what filename to rename it to then stuff that in /lib/firmware [13:35] it=site you posted [13:36] Nick change: Guest74621 -> CmdLnKid [13:37] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest10771 [13:37] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [13:37] mancha: name it "fwextract3" ? [13:38] i think we're on different urls [13:38] do you see a column "required filename" ? [13:38] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A7256A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:38] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-206-0.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [13:38] The firmware file I downloaded is 2.7.0.0.arm [13:39] mancha: No dont see "required filename" where is that? [13:39] read again [13:39] where the download links are [13:40] mancha: Oh yea, I see " [13:40] required filename [13:40] I see "required filename recommended image" [13:41] te_ stop being so helpless [13:41] the table tells you where to dl the firmware and what the filename you should rename it to. then once renamed put it in /lib/firmware [13:41] mancha: I downloaded http://daemonizer.de/prism54/prism54-fw/fw-softmac/2.13.12.0.arm [13:41] Nick change: Guest10771 -> CmdLnKid [13:42] too much spoon feeding [13:42] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest64950 [13:42] nom nom nom [13:42] Wrong link, I downloaded http://daemonizer.de/prism54/prism54-fw/fw-softmac/2.13.1.0.arm [13:43] Sorry again, it was: http://daemonizer.de/prism54/prism54-fw/fw-softmac/lmac_2.7.0.0.arm [13:43] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: "Leaving" [13:43] So what name should it be? [13:44] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx08856.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:44] isl3886 Oh I see sorry. [13:45] yay! [13:46] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72356.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Connection timed out [13:46] Nick change: Guest64950 -> CmdLnKid [13:47] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest76862 [13:47] mancha: What do I need to do to get it to work now/ [13:47] ? [13:47] read [13:47] Reboot? [13:48] I did... Don't understand. Can you help me/ [13:48] ? [13:48] What module needs to be loaded? [13:48] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-219-235-3.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [13:48] modprobe ???? [13:49] in 2.6 modules are named .ko [13:49] te_: I think its all pretty much summed up in this line: (12:41:51p)(mancha) the table tells you where to dl the firmware and what the filename you should rename it to. then once renamed put it in /lib/firmware [13:49] Zordrak_ (n=jaz@87-194-141-163.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:49] slackytude3 (n=slacky@p54A76E68.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:49] mancha, I can haz cookie 4 reading? :D [13:50] quasar: Yes I did that. [13:50] Now what? [13:50] Action: quasar shrugs [13:50] I'm sure wherever he found that table is where you'll find more info if it's needed [13:51] _budo (n=budo@75-93-145-99.rch.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:51] I did mv 2.7.0.0.arm /lib/firmware/isl3886 [13:52] Maybe I should just reboot and see if it works? (Unplugging it and plugging it in again does nothing, so...?) [13:52] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:52] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:52] te_ (n=te@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:52] Nick change: Guest76862 -> CmdLnKid [13:52] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.87.237.3) joined ##slackware. [13:53] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest40971 [13:55] someone needs to fix their script -_- [13:56] te_ (n=te@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [13:57] Nick change: Guest40971 -> CmdLnKid [13:57] Richlv, are you still here? [13:57] Can anyone tell me how to get an Intersil ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow] wireless card to work with Slackware? [13:58] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest32413 [13:58] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A7256A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:58] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:58] mancha: quasar: (Still not working). [13:58] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [13:58] te_, google its pci id. [13:58] mancha: quasar: Not sure the instructions I looked at are correct. [13:59] did you modprobe p54pci? [13:59] <_budo> anyone else have problems with playing quicktime videos on mplayer? [14:00] <_budo> sound comes in and a real dark screen, no image [14:00] jonsmith1982: The first link shows a March 2006 article ... so... I dono. [14:01] te_ whats its id? [14:01] is it a codec issue? [14:01] Nick change: Guest32413 -> CmdLnKid [14:02] <_budo> im sure it is but i just downloaded mplayer not long ago [14:02] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest71392 [14:02] <_budo> and the codecs on the slackware build site are old [14:02] did you install the codec pack? [14:02] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [14:03] cmair (n=cmair@host56-111-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:03] <_budo> install the codec pack with no dependency checking ? [14:03] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.3.246.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:03] was ist das? [14:04] check whatever you want, but you need the codecs to play the formats. [14:04] jonsmith1982: Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow] [14:04] (rev 01) [14:04] pciid -n [14:05] lspci -n [14:05] i mean [14:05] pciid: command not found [14:05] Catoptro1ancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:05] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:06] Nick change: Guest71392 -> CmdLnKid [14:06] <_budo> http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/mplayer-codecs-all/ << this one ? [14:07] that looks promising [14:07] <_budo> the mplayer i installed did not include all the codecs ? [14:07] nope [14:07] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest14022 [14:07] <_budo> ok. thanks. [14:07] there is a reason it can't include them [14:08] slackytude3 (n=slacky@p54A76E68.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:09] hmm, what's the command to reload udev rules? [14:10] udevstart? [14:10] jonsmith1982: http://pastebin.ca/1529727 [14:11] or was it udevadm, i always forget [14:11] output of lspci -n ^^ [14:11] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [14:11] te_, one of those is your pci id for for your wireless card, i can't tell without seeing the output for lspci aswell [14:11] Nick change: Guest14022 -> CmdLnKid [14:12] 8086:24ca one of those. [14:12] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> Guest26336 [14:12] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:12] 07:00.0 0280: 1260:3886 (rev 01) [14:12] udevadm control --reload-rules or summit? [14:12] jonsmith1982: Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow] [14:12] --reload_rules, typo [14:13] 07:00.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow] (rev 01) [14:13] Nick change: Guest26336 -> CmdLnKid [14:13] you can also do /etc/rc.d/rc.udev reload [14:15] jonsmith1982: So is the pci id 1260:3886 ? [14:15] ye [14:15] what kernel you running? [14:15] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [14:17] http://wiki.debian.org/prism54 [14:17] hello twolf [14:17] hey dtanner [14:17] it says kernels later than 2.6.29 should use 2.13.12.0.arm [14:17] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [14:18] earlier should use lmac_2.7.0.0.arm [14:18] and the firmware filename is different for both. [14:18] Perhaps only ndiswrapper will work for that card [14:18] i think modprobing p54pci is a first step [14:19] then look in dmesg [14:21] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [14:21] te_, so if your using 2.6.27 like me you need to use the command .... wget -O /lib/firmware/isl3886 http://daemonizer.de/prism54/prism54-fw/fw-softmac/lmac_2.7.0.0.arm [14:22] My kernel is 2.6.27.7 [14:22] te, question, have you "modprobe p54pci" yet? [14:23] anyone running slackware64? [14:23] ViN86: I am [14:23] twolf: i was wondering how i could build a bootable iso lol [14:24] twolf: mind you, im in vista atm... [14:24] ViN86: I am not sure how to do it within windows, there is a readme that tells how to do it slackware [14:25] twolf: yea i read that lol :( [14:25] ViN86: there is surely a tool to build iso's in windows [14:25] maybe ill just have to wait til the slack13 release [14:25] yes i can build an iso easily [14:26] but idk about the bootable part... [14:26] ViN86: you can download a prebuild iso from at least one of the mirrors [14:26] I will try to find the link [14:26] k thx [14:26] ive been browsing them with little success [14:26] ftp://ftp.slackware.no/linux/slackware/slackware-current-iso/ [14:27] it gets updated once a week I think [14:27] lol omg excellent [14:27] i was looking through the slackware64 directories [14:27] dur [14:27] twolf: thanks a lot [14:27] jonsmith1982: Ok, I did that. [14:28] te_ plug it in. [14:28] I try to execute a file and I get this: -bash: ./eagle: No such file or directory [14:28] mancha: p54pci shows up in lsmod [14:28] What may the problem be? [14:28] jonsmith1982: I plugged it in and not working. [14:28] then check to see if an interface exists in iwconfig [14:28] shik4nt4z4: Did you make executable first? [14:28] fire|bird: It is executable. [14:29] its a pci card right? [14:29] evening all [14:29] dive: Hello! [14:29] iwconfig -a [14:29] hey dive, how are you? [14:29] fine thanks, yourself? [14:29] becuase i recall seeing usb drivers on that site you had me open [14:29] dive: excellent, thanks. [14:29] fire|bird: But I am trying to execute it on a 64bit system and the file is an executable. [14:29] mancha, its pci [14:30] shik4nt4z4: That may be why then, I'm not sure. What are you trying to do with it? [14:30] ok, plug in the pci, rmmod p54pci; modprobe p54pci and pastebin dmesg output [14:30] fire|bird: It is an install from Cadsoft Eagle. [14:31] Is it designed for 64bit? [14:31] fire|bird: Can you check if it works for you? ftp://ftp.cadsoft.de/eagle/program/5.6/eagle-lin-5.6.0.run [14:31] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:31] fire|bird: Dunno. [14:31] fire|bird: But I have contacted the support they told me nothing about these type of incompatibilities. [14:32] te_ (n=te@63.149.173.1) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:32] shik4nt4z4: How did you make it executable? double check with ls -l filename_here? [14:33] xsamurai (n=takamata@cpe-76-167-45-148.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:33] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:33] any recommendations for partion/data recovery software for ext3 fs ? [14:33] sup bird [14:33] fire|bird: I did not. I got it exe after tar xvf eagle-5.6.0.tar.bz2 [14:33] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-49-119.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [14:33] y0 chopp [14:33] xsamurai: Have you googled? [14:34] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-49-119.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:34] yes , but google is not the only source [14:34] shik4nt4z4: If you didn't make it executable, then it's not going to be on it's own. [14:34] i like to have whats it called "multiple opinions" [14:34] xsamurai: Yes, but there are some very good references. I saw them. [14:34] xsamurai: OK. [14:34] hence im asking for "recommendations" [14:35] te_ (n=te@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [14:36] fire|bird: Can you check the link I gave you? To get the *tar.bz2 you must this ./eagle-lin-5.6.0.run "your_dir" . Please. :-) [14:36] i don't think data recovery is gonna give yiou much joy on ext3 [14:36] xsamurai: what did you find so far, and what is the particular problem with data that you are experiencing? [14:36] <_budo> downloaded and installed all the codecs for mplayer and still receive the jet black screen while playing quicktime videos [14:37] _budo: Have you tried mplayer SlackBuild? [14:37] xsamurai, i'm gonna agree with mancha there.... [14:37] <_budo> yes [14:37] hi alienBOB: problem overwrote partition with new partition and data , so far i've used testdisk [14:37] Well testdisk is what I was about to suggest [14:37] xsamurai: perhaps this will be of interest http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html [14:38] odd though , there were 3 installs on the disk old, current and new one, [14:38] im trying to go back to current but it doesnt show up [14:38] <_budo> http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/mplayer/ << the one i have installed [14:38] old data shows up though [14:38] xsamurai: If they are on the same partition forget about. [14:38] chopp: thanks for the link [14:38] _budo: that is the mplayer, but that will not install the win32 codecs for you [14:39] <_budo> how do i install the win32 codecs or where are they located [14:39] shik4nt4z4: check out the link chopp pasted [14:39] xsamurai: and the actuall app if you want to play with it: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ext3grep/ [14:39] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:39] xsamurai, the link chopp just gave you is a good one. it goes into good depth. [14:40] _budo: the slackbuilds.org link was already given earlier [14:40] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/mplayer-codecs-all/ [14:40] _budo: If I am right then you need this: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/mplayer-codecs-all/ [14:40] :-) [14:40] <_budo> yes, i have done that [14:40] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:41] xsamurai: Thanks! [14:41] <_budo> hmm [14:42] yay for testdisk got it! [14:42] _budo: Have you read how to compile mplayer on the last link? [14:43] _budo: One moment. [14:43] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [14:43] testdisk does ext3, is this new? [14:43] <_budo> ok [14:43] dtanner_ (n=dtanner@adsl-75-54-86-0.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:44] _budo: What have you installed first? [14:44] mancha: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk [14:45] _budo: mplayer or codecs? [14:45] <_budo> mplayer [14:46] _budo: Try viceversa. [14:46] _budo: What is you slackware version? [14:46] fire|bird: So, can you check Cadsoft Eagle? [14:46] mplayer and the win32 codecs are completely independant [14:46] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:47] shik4nt4z4: Did it work for you on a 32 bit machine? [14:47] fire|bird: Last time yes. But it was half a year before. [14:48] I guess I'll give up on this isl3886 for now. I just don't know what to do with it. Nothing seems to work. [14:48] alienBOB: Well, scripts are ok too. [14:48] ah, i see... vmware was trying to connect to the blackberry... no wonder udev wasn't picking it up [14:48] shik4nt4z4: Well I'm not even on a 64bit machine and if it worked for you on 32bit then, I'm sure it will now and no need for me to test on 32bit. [14:48] <_budo> slackware 12.2 [2.6.27.7] [14:48] fire|bird: This is a different version. I don't remember the one I have run last time. [14:52] _budo: Well, try to install codecs first although I don't thin that's the problem. As alienBOB has said. [14:53] KidneyBean (n=user@196-209-166-84-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [14:53] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:53] KidneyBean kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Everybody is fed up with you troll [14:53] lol [14:53] hgahahahahahahah [14:54] haha [14:54] I was wondering how long it would take for that to occur :P [14:54] who set that ban? LOL [14:54] dtanner (n=dtanner@adsl-75-54-86-0.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:54] Necos: whomever it was needs to be thanked, over and over. :P [14:54] the mighty invisable hand [14:55] i must have missed out on the rest of his trolling [14:55] /s/invisable/invisible [14:55] Necos: check the logs from yesterday afternoon, well maybe more around evening. :) [14:55] it was big brother.. they're always watching [14:55] «o» [14:55] tiagogomes (n=tiagogom@ipatinga.lps.ufrj.br) joined ##slackware. [14:56] fire|bird: was it a pretty good troll? [14:56] tiagogomes (n=tiagogom@ipatinga.lps.ufrj.br) left irc: Client Quit [14:56] I mean, if you're going to troll somewhere, at least make it worth while. [14:56] eviljames: Eh, I'm not sure really, I seen him and Quiznos going back and forth and just went on to do something else. [14:56] eviljames: Are you running slackware64 now? [14:56] not sure if that's why he got kicked or if something else occurred after I left. [14:57] _budo, ls /usr/lib/codecs/*.qtx please [14:57] hmmm... it's detecting my blackberry's sd card, but not the blackberry... lol [14:57] <_budo> gxine can sometimes play quicktime movies mplayer cant on this machine [14:57] That's what bothers me about the ones who come in here and say "why doesn't slackware automagically figure out deps?!" <- that's not a good troll, it's not even funny. [14:58] At least jeev makes me chuckle now and again, quiznos and kidneybeans' trolls suck. [14:58] eviljames: yeah, maybe Quiznos will be next. :) [14:58] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:58] Keiffer: Did you install wine to run mirc? [14:59] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:59] shik4nt4z4: yep, I run slackware64 on desktop & laptop [14:59] <_budo> dive: AvidQTAVUICodec.qtx, BeHereiVideo.qtx, QuickTimeEssentials.qtx, QuickTimeInternetExtras.qtx [14:59] ok [14:59] i irc with mirc using wine in a slackware VM running inside qemu on XP [14:59] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:59] any errors in terminal? [14:59] mancha: That makes you a horrible person. [15:00] eviljames: I have problem with an installer: ftp://ftp.cadsoft.de/eagle/program/5.6/eagle-lin-5.6.0.run Can you help me? After untar-ing and executing an exec says that that file does not exist. But it does and is exec. [15:00] eviljames, how's that? [15:00] eviljames, aaa, CTCP version? it's spoofed [15:01] genericFlounder (n=genericF@adsl-99-130-197-12.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:01] <_budo> any errors after the compile ? [15:01] eviljames: If you want to get the files you must type ./eagle-lin-5.6.0.tar.bz2 "you_dir" [15:01] _budo, when you run mplayer somefile.mov from a terminal [15:01] _budo, http://pastebin.slackadelic.com [15:02] oh, bleh, nevermind... it's detecting my blackberry as a usb mass storage device [15:02] Necos: Oh, I could've told yo uthat :P [15:03] >.<; [15:03] Melsxyz (n=Melsxyz@117.255.72.84) joined ##slackware. [15:03] damn ej, you fail >.> [15:04] <_budo> can't open audio device /dev/dsp, but the audio works, its the video that doesn't [15:05] dakarn (n=skas@93.68.46.11) left irc: "shutdown -h" [15:05] eviljames: Have you managed to get the files? [15:05] shik4nt4z4: I'm going to download shortly, sec. [15:05] _budo, can you play a few secs and hit 'q' to exit and then paste the ouptut at http://pastebin.slackadelic.com please? [15:05] Hello, I am having some problems with the 2.6 kernel. I use Slackware 11.0. I have tried to boot with kernel 2.6.30.4. I cannot boot from the IDE HD. [15:06] eviljames: Thank you! [15:06] <_budo> okay [15:06] Melsxyz: Why Slackware 11.0? [15:07] I came in contact with it due to ZipSlack. That's the version of Slackware that was packed with it. [15:08] hmmm [15:10] _budo, and don't forget to give us the link [15:10] <_budo> yes, sorry i didnt know you could start it from the terminal til u asked me to do that [15:10] <_budo> http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/QLXEXM77.html [15:12] Does the Linux kernel 2.6.30.4 support IDE HDs? [15:12] it'd be pretty retarded if it didn't [15:12] Does the Linux kernel 2.6.30.4 support IDE HDs? [15:12] gsxs (n=gsxs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:12] thrice`: lol [15:12] Melsxyz: yes [15:13] Melsxyz: yes, it does. A custom kernel? [15:13] Does the Linux kernel 2.6.30.4 support IDE HDs? [15:13] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-49-119.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:13] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-119-236.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:13] _budo, that doesn't show anything I can see as an error. Have you tried other quicktime movies? Does it work on some or none at all? [15:14] <_budo> mplayer, none. gxine some [15:14] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:14] Melsxyz (n=Melsxyz@117.255.72.84) left ##slackware ("There seems to be some problem with my (IRC) client."). [15:15] shik4nt4z4: downloaded, but I'm not at the machine and it seems to wnt a virtual display? [15:16] eviljames: Yes, the script ask for it because program is just an GUI install. [15:17] <_budo> ill try to generate an error from another movie [15:17] _budo: Try also #mplayer channel. [15:17] eviljames: Can you do something with that? [15:17] shik4nt4z4: for me running eagle...run ./eagle worked. It installed to a folder in my home dir. [15:18] <_budo> ok ill try that [15:18] _budo, you could try other video codecs with -vc flag. run 'mplayer -vc help' to get a list. [15:18] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [15:18] eviljames: So, eagle*/bin/eagle worked or the script worked? [15:18] what does eagle do? [15:18] shik4nt4z4: Just the script [15:19] _budo, in fact 'mplayer -vc help | grep -i quick' [15:19] mancha: appears to be a PCB design suite [15:19] shik4nt4z4: eagle*/bin/eagle does not work for me. Is very likely to be a 32 bit binary. [15:19] ah, neat. i see more and more CADish programs cropping up for linux [15:19] mancha: EDA, electronic design automation [15:19] shik4nt4z4: and I do not have multilib installed on that machine. [15:19] Though, perhaps I should. :P [15:20] eviljames: Yes, I fought so too. How can I get multilib for slackware64? [15:21] eviljames: I mean, what libs shall I installfor that. [15:21] I have a question. Virtual machines are hardware dependent? I mean Windows [15:21] Uhm..what? [15:21] shik4nt4z4: alienBOB apparently has some that he will be making available when 13.0 is released. In the meantime, fred of slamd64 has some already made. [15:21] what do you mean by that? [15:21] shik4nt4z4: j'sec, I'll see if I can't find you an rsync link [15:22] yes i'am here :p [15:22] If you install Windows in a VM..its just like you installed it on actual hardware..the install is for the virtual hardware [15:22] eviljames: Thank you! [15:22] You can move it between the same virtual software/version [15:23] uschi (n=uschi@g229048050.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:25] CeruleanC (n=Cerulean@unaffiliated/ceruleanc) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:25] hey, I'm looking for howto which describes which packages from x/ I should install to get minimal xorg installation, please? [15:25] straterra, i mean, i can take that install to another pc, with a different hardware? [15:25] alienBOB: Do you have any libs to run 32bit programs? [15:25] eviljames: my multilib stuff is out there if yu can find it :-) [15:26] if the VM is cross platform you can even take it to a different HW and different OS [15:26] alienBOB: heh, I thought I saw someone ask you when it would be available and you stated "The day 13.0 is released" [15:26] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: "leaving" [15:26] alienBOB: Which is what inspired me to ask about it the other day. [15:27] Keiffer: If you use the same vm software.. [15:27] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:27] eviljames, alienBOB : What really means multilib. Does it have a "brand" name? [15:27] brand name? [15:27] shik4nt4z4: http://www.slackware.org.uk/slamd64/slackware64-current/ [15:28] shik4nt4z4: multi-lib means that it will support each 64-bit libraries, and 32-bit libraries if you need [15:28] shik, it means you have the 32-bit libs on your system, side-by0side the 64-bit so 32 bit things compiled non-statically can run [15:29] tomekh: fwiw, installing the whole a/ and x/ of 12.1 didn't produce a working startx for me. after that i've stopped playing the "minimize your installation" game. disks are big enough... [15:30] te_ (n=te@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:30] of course a/ and x/ won't produce a working xorg-server [15:30] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:30] thrice`: I got that, but I don't know how it works. [15:30] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:30] tavelram (n=nope@marle.vat.sgsnet.se) joined ##slackware. [15:31] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:31] thrice`: back then i didn't care to figure out why. but now you can enlighten me :) [15:32] shik4nt4z4: FYI: I installed slamd64's slackware64-current stuff and now Eagle does run. [15:32] Though because I'm not at the machine it says cannot connect to X server :P [15:32] ln -s /bin/eagle landed [15:33] Ive got a gfx card that can ouput composite sync on vga, and it works fine in x-window - is there a way to disable the "console"? ie I dont want to accidently output a non composite sync if the x-window server happends to die. [15:33] rhys (n=rhys@dialup-4.253.113.244.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [15:33] or perhaps use the xorg driver even during boot/console, so that I can output the correct sync all the time? [15:34] eviljames: You are talking about Eagle? [15:34] shik4nt4z4: Yes, sir. [15:34] shik4nt4z4: It just so happened that I had these packages before, so I installed them. Works for me. [15:35] eviljames: I just don't really understand from the link you gave me what I need to do. [15:35] :-) [15:35] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-8.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:35] bah.. knew I missed one.. soprano -_- [15:36] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [15:36] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [15:36] shik4nt4z4: heh, ok. Prior to slackware64 existing, there was a project called slamd64. the guy who made that software created a series of compatibility libraries so that you could run 32 bit software on slamd64/slackware64 [15:36] shik4nt4z4: These are those packages. Install them. [15:37] and s/software/distro/1 above. [15:37] :P [15:37] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [15:37] eviljames: Oh, OK. I have tried once Slamd64 but did not work very well..... [15:37] Thank you very much! [15:37] well, slackware64 wil be nearly the same thing as slamd64 was :) [15:38] I found that slamd64 worked very well for me, but everyone's mileage varies. [15:39] Melsxyz (i=user@117.255.72.84) joined ##slackware. [15:40] eviljames: How do I install them? :-) With pkgtool? 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[15:45] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) returned to ##slackware. [15:45] apoca (n=apoca@haydn.n2.nognu.de) returned to ##slackware. [15:45] rworkman (n=rworkman@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [15:45] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@hbge-216-37-227-223.dsl.hbge.epix.net) returned to ##slackware. [15:45] artv61 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) returned to ##slackware. [15:45] eviljames: Shall I install those packages with pkgtool? [15:45] The last kernel which worked without the problem, and which I tried was 2.6.27.7-SMP. [15:46] meh.. only 3k.. who needs 'em [15:46] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:46] quasar: haha [15:47] quasar: =) [15:47] I have tried to boot even in kernel 2.6.30.2 and yet failed. [15:47] Melsxyz: Did you set IDE as * or M? [15:47] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:47] CONFIG_IDE=y [15:48] mgs` (n=mgs@unaffiliated/mgs/x-0000001) got lost in the net-split. [15:48] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) got lost in the net-split. [15:48] konus (n=konus_fn@ns1.noxis.org) got lost in the net-split. [15:48] MoZes (n=mozes@bourbon.biscuit.org.uk) got lost in the net-split. [15:48] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) got lost in the net-split. [15:48] snorks (n=stig@cpc2-tref4-2-0-cust399.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com) got lost in the net-split. [15:48] alice_ (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) got lost in the net-split. [15:48] what about chipset support? filesystem? [15:48] mgs` (n=mgs@unaffiliated/mgs/x-0000001) joined ##slackware. [15:49] EXT2FS, Chipset Intel? (Do I have to set that to 'Y')? [15:49] yes [15:49] if you want to avoid making an initrd [15:49] imarambiocatan__ (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: "Leaving" [15:50] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:50] qneo (n=knao@adsl-d149.84-47-45.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [15:50] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] I have set the support for my chipset (Intel) to 'Y', but still no success. It seems that my IDE HDs are interpreted as SCSI (/dev/sd?/). [15:52] sata is /dev/sd## too [15:52] The kernel is set to boot from device: 03,01 [15:52] Melsxyz, then you probably need change lilo.conf to reflect that and run lilo again [15:52] check fstab too [15:52] snorks (n=stig@cpc2-tref4-2-0-cust399.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:53] My fstab mounts /dev/hda1 on / (ext2fs) [15:53] then you need change it to correct sd* number [15:54] The main problem is that I am providing the options to boot from both the kernels. 2.4 and 2.6.* [15:54] ah [15:55] that may be a problem if one is seeing hda and the other sda [15:55] I had no problem with the kernel 2.6.27.7-SMP which was included in Slackware 12.2 [15:55] shah16 (n=shah@121.246.152.157) left irc: "Leaving" [15:56] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [15:56] But, what I want to know is that, why are my HDs being interpreted as SATA/SCSI? [15:56] are they PATA IDE drives? [15:57] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-206-0.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:57] Uh, I think so. [15:57] esb (n=esbjorn@81.233.227.253) left irc: [15:57] PATA implies IDE :P [15:58] i am late to the party, i dont know what hardware you have, and dont know what slackware you have [15:58] yes [15:58] well both PATA and SATA are ide devices, PATA = Parallel ATA and SATA = Serial ATA [15:58] Melsxyz, I think you need to decide which kernel you want to use and go with that. [16:00] rhys (n=rhys@dialup-4.253.113.244.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) left irc: "Leaving." [16:00] Err..Most every modern drive is IDE though..even SCSI [16:00] I have noticed a small but critical difference in the config files of both 2.6.27.7 and 2.6.30.# kernels. There seems to be the option BLK_DEV_IDE missing. [16:00] the detection of IDE drives as sd* is a result of code merger in libata AFAIK. I thought that happened at 2.6.22 or something. [16:01] I feel that the catch could also lie in the option BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA. [16:01] does 2.4 use udev if you have it dual boot? I can't recall. If it does, maybe you could use UUID instead of disk name. [16:01] 2.4 uses hotplug [16:01] (by dual boot, I mean kernel options). [16:01] No, 2.4 does not use udev. [16:01] 2.4 will not use udev [16:01] dive: ah okay. I did not remember. [16:02] it's been awhile. [16:04] konus (n=konus_fn@ns1.noxis.org) joined ##slackware. [16:05] that's another point: if you upgrade the kernel to 2.6 you will probably also need instal udev. [16:05] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:05] and whatever that entails. [16:05] I think udev was required as of 2.6.18, so if 2.6.27 worked already, then udev is probably already installed. [16:06] alphageek (i=rooot@69-196-191-229.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [16:07] Action: alphageek returns! [16:07] don't applaud, just throw money [16:07] Action: dive throws a large gold bar at alphageek's head *bonk* [16:08] ty [16:09] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. 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[16:18] goodboy leroy [16:18] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78.86.1.110) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:19] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:19] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [16:19] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [16:19] i love France [16:19] woohooo! [16:19] stage 1 complete [16:19] i am french [16:19] :p [16:20] root@tessai:~/CVS/BB/barry-git# bidentify [16:20] 30c5f1a1, RIM BlackBerry Device [16:20] >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Manger/0046.gif [16:20] is anyone familiar with passing the -a flag to tar? [16:20] it apparently uses lzma like z and j use gzip and bzip2 [16:21] It's not in the man page for tar. [16:21] What does the option BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA in the config file do? [16:21] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [16:22] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-183-177.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:22] enable serial ata? [16:22] yeah, seems to be self explanitory [16:23] Symbol: BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA [=n] Prompt: Support for SATA (deprecated; conflicts with libata SATA driver [16:23] that is the old way [16:23] good night [16:23] $ find /usr/src/linux/ -name Kconfig -exec grep -l BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA {} \; [16:23] /usr/src/linux/drivers/ide/Kconfig [16:23] ^ take a look in that file [16:24] every body :) [16:24] night fredoslack [16:24] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-119-236.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:24] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [16:24] the new serial ata is enabled using CONFIG_ATA [16:24] had to use the CVS version of barry [16:25] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:27] you should be using menuconfig or xconfig, dont be editing that .config by hand [16:29] hiptobecubic: tar --help --> "-a, --auto-compress use archive suffix to determine the compression program" [16:29] Can I prevent my IDE disk(s) from being interpreted as SATA? If so, how do I do it? [16:31] how do you know if they are SATA or PATA? search google images for some examples if you dont know what they look like [16:32] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-12-114.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:32] http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2005/11/23/pc_interfaces_101/hdd_sata_connected.jpg SATA has a IDE cable like this little red one [16:32] I know that they are PATA, from the broad, grey ribbon. [16:33] ok [16:34] hmmm is there a package that has libtar.h in it? [16:34] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] not one in slackware [16:37] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "caindo fora!" [16:37] http://packages.slackware.it/search.php?v=current&t=2&q=libtar [16:37] Melsxyz (i=user@117.255.72.84) left ##slackware. [16:37] rworkman, ah ok. Still... no man page entry? Seems odd to me. [16:37] maybe it part of the tar package source [16:38] hiptobecubic: the manpage for tar is outdated and unmaintained upstream [16:38] the tar devs don't make the manpage? [16:38] nope [16:38] yuck [16:38] They seem to think that the abortion known as texinfo is good enough. [16:39] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) joined ##slackware. [16:39] GNU tools come with better info files anyway [16:39] most GNU manpages are useless [16:39] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:39] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) left ##slackware. [16:39] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) joined ##slackware. [16:39] if you compare em to the info ones [16:39] howdy all. [16:39] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [16:39] i happen to like man pages [16:39] file a bug report upstream :P [16:40] :D [16:40] Chapinha (i=0@201.53.196.77) joined ##slackware. [16:40] http://freshmeat.net/projects/info2man/ [16:41] <_budo> question: if i saved my .tgz output file i can just install from there without recompiling ? [16:42] _budo: yes [16:42] _budo: you can reinstall packages that have been built previously as long as you install them to a compatible version of Slackware. [16:42] <_budo> im doin an install of mplayer after the codecs this time [16:42] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [16:42] <_budo> ok [16:42] _budo: not necessary [16:43] hmmm [16:43] the codecs package is uterly useless [16:43] more than GNU manpages [16:43] :P [16:43] sahko: why? :P [16:44] damn, this is just wierd... [16:44] <_budo> can you play quicktime movies? ~ shako. and if so, what do you use ? [16:45] Chapinha (i=0@201.53.196.77) left irc: "Saindo" [16:45] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:46] luceroz (n=luceroz@76.31.194.150) left irc: "leaving" [16:46] quasar (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:47] quasar (i=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:47] http://www.feep.net/libtar/ <--- this just sounds dumb [16:48] I can play quicktime with MPayer or xine [16:48] MPlayer* [16:48] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.87.237.3) left irc: "Leaving" [16:48] Nick change: quasar -> Guest17051 [16:48] Nick change: Guest17051 -> quasar [16:49] http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1913307 [16:49] CeruleanC (n=Cerulean@unaffiliated/ceruleanc) joined ##slackware. [16:49] mplayer can play quicktime you will probably need the essential codecs package too = unpack as /usr/lib/codecs [16:49] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [16:49] "Ewok, fetch me Excalibur.  The Nebacenezzer will survive.  I will not rest until I've killed every terminator in Jurassic Park.  RUFIO! RUFIO!" [16:50] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:51] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [16:51] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [16:51] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-17-104.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:52] ewww [16:52] libtar's makefile doesn't even support DESTDIR [16:52] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-110-92.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:53] dive, a question about the clock/time drift problem that came up earlier: could that sort of drift be due to either faulty/failing hardware or to power management settings? [16:54] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za expired. [16:54] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:54] Necos: sure it does, make && mv * /tmp [16:54] shonudo, unlikely but possible I guess. [16:55] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:55] hoobop, i surely am :) [16:56] alienBOB (n=alien@h202078.upc-h.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:56] edman007: "edman007 is a very aggressive person." LOL from http://wigglit.ath.cx/slackware_stats2/ [16:57] y0 agentc0re|work [16:57] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-177.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:57] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [16:57] _budo (n=budo@75-93-145-99.rch.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:58] shonudo, I would say it was something in software. A little test you could would be reboot, go into bios and just keep an eye on clock for an hour. Also boot with a live cd and then see if there's any change. I recall when I had clock problems it was kernel options that did it, but I don't recall which specific ones. [16:58] fire|bird: hey man!! :) [16:58] agentc0re|work: i suppose... just doesn't seem right [16:58] fire|bird: Sup. You should check your stats. you are almost #1 most active user. [16:58] y0 gar0t0 [16:58] fire|bird: even with all your nick changes. [16:58] fire|bird: are you ok ? [16:58] agentc0re|work: haha, yeah, I had seen that. [16:58] dive, makes sense -- hopefully Richlv has figured it out [16:58] agentc0re|work, where are the stats? [16:59] agentc0re|work: I'm pretty much here all the time except for the 7-7.5 hours of sleep. [16:59] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "yngre" [16:59] gar0t0: oh yeah man, doing excellent, you? [16:59] agentc0re|work: I AM #1 with nick changes, unless that's changed. :P [17:00] gar0t0: Howdy. [17:00] DeeeeP: http://wigglit.ath.cx/slackware_stats2/ [17:00] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.27) joined ##slackware. [17:00] dive, not sure about your addressing, but livecd was something i wa planning to test :) [17:00] staring at a bios screen for an hour could make my employer suspicious and i might have to talk to some kinf persons in white clothes [17:00] fire|bird: I'm fine thanks!! thinking about buy psp! but must psp on ebay dont has shipping to brazil [17:01] Alan_Hicks: hey Alan, are you ok ? :D [17:01] ermm yeah. Getting confuddled in my old age about who has which problem. [17:01] agentc0re|work: If it went by # of lines, I would be #1. :P [17:01] gar0t0: Yes, just have been working very much today! [17:01] fire|bird, 1 silvergold (82 names) [17:01] Alan_Hicks: When you go to Brazil drink cachaça ? [17:01] fire|bird, wtf man? [17:01] 82??? [17:01] dive: hahaha [17:01] gar0t0: No money. :-( Will have to drink my own cachaca here. [17:02] dive: I AM the nick changing king. :P [17:02] hehehe [17:02] fire|bird: If it kept track of all your different usernames you'd blown up the DB by now. :P [17:02] Alan_Hicks: good!! [17:02] agentc0re|work: hahahahaha [17:02] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:02] agentc0re|work, I think that's his plan. [17:02] gsxs (n=gsxs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:02] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-8.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:03] Alan_Hicks: I drank one beer here wich my boss [17:04] dive: Shhhhh. :P [17:04] mySql bomb [17:04] I have a client who is using Quickbooks point of sale on ancient hardware and the version they are using appears to have been pirated by their past IT support person. Now they want multiuser support and they sure aren't going to like the price of the new setup. eeek [17:04] gar0t0: :^) Always fun to drink with the boss. [17:04] antiwire: yikes, that's going to be costly [17:04] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:05] Alan_Hicks: yes!! [17:05] but!! back to work :( [17:07] fire|bird: LOL you are #1 "Users with most nicknames" [17:07] 1 silvergold (82 names) fire|bird, Guest44865, Guest86719, Guest54888, nobody, phoenix^, Guest50058, irebirdfay, |phoenix|, fear|bird, ... [17:07] agentc0re|work: yup, I am the KING. [17:07] agentc0re|work, scrollback fail [17:08] fear|bird [17:08] hehe [17:08] i like that one [17:08] y0 dtanner_ [17:08] yeah! [17:08] or phear|bird [17:08] I can't even believe I've had that many nicks. :P [17:08] $1900 for the base cash register + software (they need new hardware because the new POS versions only support USB peripherals and not PS2 anymore. Then, the second system license will be 1079.95. Mind that the second license isn't even for a cash drawer setup...just a second system for inventory. [17:08] or go the whole hog ph34r|6!rd [17:08] insane. [17:09] Action: dtanner_ puffs a Carlos Torano 1959 Exodus Gold... [17:09] Nick change: dtanner_ -> dtanner [17:09] LOL "Also, macavity tells us what's up with 666 actions." [17:09] damnit when did my connection bounce? [17:10] antiwire, crap. Can't imagine what they will say to that. [17:10] antiwire, esp if last guy did it on the cheap. [17:10] dive: they'll probably ask me to pirate it... [17:10] dtanner: At least an hour ago [17:10] yeah [17:10] I saked that like someone really has time to give a shit when my connection bounced. or if they DID they would remember. =) [17:10] asked* [17:10] Desmirrel (n=desmirre@82-46-78-218.cable.ubr06.stav.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:11] dive: he did it on the cheap by downloading some activation crack and hacked dlls for the version they currently run [17:11] antiwire, I would try to find out exactly how much they paid last guy. He could have charged full prices. [17:11] my connection never bounces .. must have been the irc server and not my isp [17:11] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [17:11] antiwire, if he charged the full price as if it was legit, they could sue. [17:12] dtanner: There was an FN server overheating that affected 3k users, but I don't think you were included in that. [17:12] dive: yep, he left them high an dry too. When I first got into that place it was a mess. practically a botnet [17:12] agentc0re|work: Latest imaging attempt is at 80% complete. :P [17:13] fire|bird, still at it then? [17:13] dive: yup [17:13] dive: I'm thinking this one will work [17:13] hope so [17:13] dive: VMware Converter. :) [17:13] Which makes a VMware image, which I can then convert to VBox or Qemu [17:14] first, I'm gonna try it in VMware Player and see if it works. :) [17:15] xxjx (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: "\o\ /o/ \o/" [17:16] xsamurai (n=takamata@cpe-76-167-45-148.socal.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [17:16] fire|bird: is VMplayer is free right? [17:16] Oh ya, it's just workstation that's costs. [17:17] does vbox have a converting tool? [17:17] agentc0re|work: yeah, it's free [17:17] agentc0re|work: yeah, VBoxManage has options for converstions [17:17] alright, imaging is done, here goes testing it. :P [17:18] You know i am wondering... sysprep strips any hardware info.. Wonder if you need to add the right drivers to the image for the virtual harddrive and nic.. etc. etc. [17:19] agentc0re|work: yeah, not sure, there has to be some way to do it though. I'll let you know if this attempt works. [17:21] I need a tower that supports the VT hardware extensions. My poor laptop is being run like an enterprise VM server right now [17:22] antiwire: Oh geez.. kiss that HD goodbye soon :P [17:23] I'm all good on HDs though [17:23] I have 2 cold standby disks with live backups ready to go [17:24] identical disks [17:24] they must put some awsome bushings or bearings in harddrives, i have one PC in the office that has two PATA drives that have been spinning non stop for probably 6 or 8 years [17:24] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:24] most modern disks use fluid bearings [17:25] fluid? o.0 [17:25] I accidentally in your HD... [17:26] this PC i put together in the summer of 2001 (i remember because it was before 9/11 [17:26] Pig_Pen: well the thing is, you never shut it down though right? [17:26] other than a slackware install once a year, and an occasional kernel rebuild it stays up [17:27] but you never actually power it off? [17:27] And even during a reboot, drives are still spinning.. [17:27] nope, unless the electricity goes out [17:27] lol does it? [17:27] not often [17:28] drives last longer when not shutdown. that's why servers last so long. [17:28] i guess every hard drive deserves a break sometimes ^_^ [17:28] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [17:28] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui embora" [17:28] does anyone have a png alphabet suitable for use with opera skinning? [17:28] png'd [17:29] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [17:29] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [17:29] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Client Quit [17:29] Quiznos, gimp one? [17:29] links2 has one in the source code, not sure if it will suit what you want [17:29] ty both [17:30] hmm l2? i wonder if i have that in my loca/src [17:30] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [17:30] using copy on write files makes sketchy system work so easy [17:30] how do i start a process at boot ? [17:30] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Client Quit [17:30] I would have had to reinstall windows 6 times by now without copy files [17:30] add it to rc.local? [17:30] deco, /etc/rc.d/rc.local [17:30] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [17:31] deco: /etc/rc.d/rc.local and rc.local_shutdown to stop things [17:32] hmmm it works but i remember someone saying to make foo.conf executable ? [17:32] ? [17:32] it's just a bash script... nothing special [17:33] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [17:33] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:34] uebi (n=riba@last.fm/user/web-knows) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:36] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:37] deco: Regarding what you mentioned about whatever.conf. You might be thinking about this method: create /etc/rc.d/rc.foo and chmod +x. then put an if test for execute in rc.local for rc.foo [17:37] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [17:37] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [17:38] ah, i didn't think about that antiwire... good point [17:38] you'll most likely want to make rc.foo {start|stop|restart} function compatible so that you can use an if test in rc.local to start and rc.local_shutdown to stop [17:38] deco, adding to that - have a look in rc.M to see how it's done. [17:39] dive, "gimp one" under UnixTao, regimping is a disallowed activity enumerated as "reinvention" the maxim of anti-NIH is applicable; use someone else's effort. :) [17:39] lol [17:40] antiwire: like this ? # To make Apache start automatically at boot, make this [17:40] # file executable: chmod 755 /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd [17:40] I see. [17:40] welp; we made it to another Friday, folks; BIG SIGH required; altogether now... [17:40] Action: Necos holds his breath too long and passes out [17:40] dive that's sposed to be funi! [17:40] laf damnnit :) [17:41] deco: that is just telling you how to set the perms. that will not hook an rc.foo that you add to rc.d/ yourself. [17:41] you need to hook it in rc.local [17:42] Quiznos, I just got a bit of a headache so not seeing anything funny atm. [17:42] do not edit rc.M. You should do what you need to do in rc.local and rc.local_shutdown by making your own /etc/rc.d/rc.foo script that is start/stop function capable [17:42] dive ok [17:42] dive: He didn't say anything funny anyway. :/ [17:42] dive mabe you have an aspirine deficiency? [17:42] s/didn't say/never says/ [17:42] eviljames: ++ [17:43] fire|bird go start a fire somewhere; que loca, not funi, my ass :) [17:43] lol [17:43] eviljames: He seems to laugh at himself quite a bit. [17:44] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [17:44] antiwire, I only mentioned looking in rc.M for examples of [ -x rc.bla ] etc... [17:44] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:44] I know [17:44] but he might see that and think "oh i'll just add this here" [17:44] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:44] k [17:44] warriorforgod (n=chatzill@216.57.96.1) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.13/2009080315]" [17:45] just tried - usbboot.img for 64bit install worked really well [17:45] deco: the reason to stay away from rc.M and only use it for an example is because if the etc package ever has an update for rc.M, you might not remember that you had added your own stuff to it and overwrite your work. [17:45] Chapinha (i=0@201.53.196.77) joined ##slackware. [17:48] the default for kill is TERM, is that safe to use for a program that has open files? [17:48] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-110-92.dsl.telepac.pt) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:48] josefig (n=josefig@200.77.71.13) joined ##slackware. [17:49] antiwire, depends on whether the program is written to intercept signals properly. [17:49] never overwrite a file; backup/copy, then edit. [17:50] antiwire: i so i have to make it executable and than add it to rc.local ? [17:50] antiwire open files are closed [17:50] deco: you make your script executable and add a test in rc.local to check if the script is +x and if it is, execute the script [17:50] antiwire, a well written program will catch all signals and act accordingly - closing files, freeing resources etc. A badly written program might not. [17:51] dive: so the default TERM is safe, where -9 is like cutting heads off? [17:51] for a badly writ tool, libc does the required thing(TM) [17:51] safe if the program is written well [17:51] antiwire, should be yes. [17:51] antiwire: so rc.local is not really required ? [17:52] antiwire, I usually go 15 2 9 [17:52] deco sure it is. to put our stuff into it [17:52] deco: yes it is. [17:52] antiwire pm? [17:52] again, just making /etc/rc.d/rc.myfile +x will not make it execute [17:53] antiwire: Quiznos ok ok so after making it executable just add to rc.local than start the program ? [17:53] yes [17:53] yay :D [17:53] Quiznos, yeah libc should. [17:53] antiwire: thank you very much [17:53] Quiznos: not really [17:53] antiwire pls? [17:53] I'd rather be trolled in public [17:53] argh, looks like this imaging didn't work well either. [17:53] antiwire i dont ask lightly [17:54] VMPlayer just sits there, and sits there. :/ [17:54] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@87.76.16.93) joined ##slackware. [17:54] i dont troll privately either. [17:54] you troll everywhere. [17:54] lol [17:54] that's not hte same thing [17:54] lol [17:54] antiwire pls? [17:54] ok fine [17:54] ty [17:54] oh, that's hot. [17:54] We just saw a new relationship blossom [17:54] antiwire: may the source be with you, and an army of some sort. :) [17:55] lol [17:55] lol [17:55] eviljames: hahaha [17:55] antiwire sorry, wrong persona [17:55] eviljames: wanna join us? [17:55] well, as much as someone can have a relationship with their rapist. [17:55] lol [17:55] dive pm? [17:55] lol [17:55] haha [17:55] you're all interchangeable to me [17:55] Quiznos: You're my puzzle piece. The missing link. [17:55] multi-split persona [17:55] Quiznos: You complete me. [17:55] rworkman: you alive perchance? [17:55] ty [17:55] that's why im here. [17:55] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-17-108.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [17:56] aw hell wit it. [17:57] darnold (n=darnold@ool-457a3d2d.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [17:57] Nick change: darnold -> htmlol [17:59] I was just trying to install slackware for the first time on a computer I built myself. I partitioned my hard drive when installing windows: 1TB, half and half (NTFS and unpartitioned). however, when I startup cfdisk, it is having problems seeing anything at all, and looking in /dev/ reveals that my hard drive isn't even being read. help [18:00] htmlol: does dmesg provide any useful information? [18:00] htmlol: Also, is Slackware your first linux attempt? [18:03] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [18:04] Who wants to argue about drm?! http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/08/06/tech-digital-locks-drm-tpm-rights-management-protection-measures-copyright-copy-protection.html [18:04] brb [18:04] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "leaving" [18:05] "As rights holders, our members, of course, want to be compensated for the use of their material and that can't happen if people are ripping off music," - ACTRA [18:05] the USA needs a pirate party [18:05] yarrr [18:05] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429256.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:05] yaarrr [18:05] I expect there already is one, but it's probably slightly less useful than Nader. [18:06] powtrix: I elect you president of the pirate party [18:06] we are in digital era [18:06] The CBC went out and got commentary from the Ottawa LUG [18:07] eviljames: as a Canadian have you heard of something called the North American Union that is suppsed to merge Canada the USA and Mexico in to one nation? [18:08] pfft [18:08] its crazy [18:08] of course I've heard of it. I can get to Alex Jones' website too. [18:08] eviljames: no, I've installed many before [18:08] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.3.246.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [18:08] who got the Canadian going? [18:08] What's crazy is that people believe it. [18:08] damn it people. [18:08] eviljames: but never had the issue of something not showing up in /dev, heh [18:08] what is the default bootloader in 12.2 ? [18:08] 2c to start the party :D [18:08] lilo [18:08] pinnen: lilo [18:08] eviljames: dmesg is unhelpful [18:09] lil(_._) [18:09] htmlol: there's no info about the drives in dmesg? [18:09] neur0sys (n=neur0sys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) joined ##slackware. [18:09] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [18:09] if that happens i will move to the NorthWest Territories since it will be the New Canada [18:09] ok, have to switch over to grub then, seems like lilo is a little bit old [18:09] when will everyone learn that there are three things you never talk to a Canadian about; oil, trade, health care [18:09] lil(_o_) [18:09] I mean, I havent installed slackware yet, but I will try it :) [18:09] Pig_Pen: never gonna happen. [18:09] antiwire: is that because we're superior on all fronts? [18:09] lol [18:10] pretty much [18:10] eviljames: nothing I recall...I'll reboot into it and come back here using a different machine [18:10] evening. [18:10] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429256.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:10] htmlol: that might be the easiest way for folks here to help troubleshoot. [18:10] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:10] eviljames: ok :) [18:10] htmlol (n=darnold@ool-457a3d2d.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "brb" [18:11] howdy BP{k} [18:11] fire|bird: howdy. how goes? :) [18:11] BP{k}: going great, thanks. you? [18:11] fire|bird: I am excellent :) [18:11] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [18:11] good to hear. :) [18:11] htmlol (n=knoppix@ool-457a3d2d.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] fire|bird: good booze + bbq for two days :D [18:12] alright, I'm booting slack right now [18:13] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:14] BP{k}: nice [18:14] anything specific I should be looking for? I can't pretend to be a dmesg expert [18:14] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [18:15] htmlol: dmesg | grep hda or perhaps instead of hda, use sda - depends on your hardware\ [18:15] it's an sata drive, yeah [18:15] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: "Smoke my bones" [18:15] eOliva (n=dutche@189-039-007-100.static.spo.ctbc.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:15] alienBOB is gone! Now is the time for lawlessness people! [18:15] Troll away!! [18:15] well, i got barrybackup to backup my database... so far, so good ^_^ [18:16] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [18:16] oh now that's weird...it seems to be ok now. I'll stay here anyway in case there are any more problems ^.^ [18:16] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [18:16] htmlol: Anytime people try to demonstrate a bug or hiccup in their system, it will only work when nobody is watching. [18:17] Unless you're Bill Gates, then you get BSoD on startup at the Windows 98 product launch. [18:17] haha yes indeed :) [18:17] :D [18:17] ya know... one day i was driving past the staple center and i saw a huge ass BSOD on one of those compound monitors lol [18:18] hahaha [18:18] I love seeing them in airports [18:18] yeah, it's great [18:18] the pedestrians were the funniest lol [18:18] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [18:18] they didn't know what was goign on ^_^ [18:18] repsol_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:19] *going lol [18:19] or when you hear the windows error sound over the loudspeakers somewhere :) [18:20] after aclocal, autoconf, automake, ./configure; i get am__fastdepCXX. how do i fix that? [18:20] oops; i get am__fastdepCXX never defined; possibly invoked conditionally. how do i fix that? [18:22] take a bigger hammer [18:22] gnu is the hammer; i have a thumbpin. [18:23] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-8-74.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:24] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-17-108.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: "Leaving." [18:25] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.3.246.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:25] hmm [18:25] setup can't seem to find my dvd [18:26] whats the max cable lenght on serial cables? [18:26] ooh yay I found it using custom :) [18:26] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [18:27] Action: wintery dislikes snooker [18:28] adrenaline (n=repsol@tuxhacker/adrenaline) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:28] acidchild, I ought to know, but forgot most of what I learned about cable lengths [18:28] repsol_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:30] acidchild, 10ft according to this: http://www.connectworld.net/cable-length.html [18:31] although it will probably depend on data rate. The slower the longer. [18:31] repsol_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:31] hackedhe1d (n=hackedhe@pool-71-164-77-135.albyny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:35] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:35] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.27) left irc: [18:39] hi guys. it's a bad day. http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/9435 and http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/9436 works on slackware 12.2 [18:41] upyr[emacs]: Are these related to the null ptr deref vulnerabilities? [18:41] what command will test more better the speed of the filesystem? dd or hdparam ? [18:41] upyr[emacs]: old news, patches are coming. [18:41] OpenSys: dd is not a benchmark. hdparam will provide you with some information. [18:41] best overall, I think, would be something like filebench [18:42] Or the phoronix test suite is supposed to be good, but I haven't tested it out yet.' [18:42] so filebench or phoronix [18:42] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:43] seams that with hdparam the ext4 pass over xfs [18:43] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:43] OpenSys: if you read the hdparm man page, it has a couple of different tests. [18:43] eviljames: patched kernel will include in slackware? [18:44] eviljames, i use the "-t" [18:44] qneo (n=knao@adsl-d149.84-47-45.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [18:45] upyr[emacs]: I'm not someone who would make that decision, but I would expect that when the patched kernel is ready, it will be included. [18:45] OpenSys: good. I think that is not a test of the filesystem, per se, as much as the device itself. [18:46] And checking the man page confirms that hdparm -t is a test of the raw device access speed without filesystem overhead. [18:46] eviljames: ok, I understand. I also hope so. Thank you for your reply [18:47] upyr[emacs]: no problem, and considering the severity of the issue I would expect that patches are coming soon. [18:47] eviljames, no, is filesystem, i have only one disk. with ext4 get someting like 112ms/s and xfs 76mb/s [18:48] so i dont't understand why is the big diference [18:48] OpenSys: This mea- surement is an indication of how fast the drive can sustain sequential data reads under Linux, without any filesystem over- head. [18:48] That's from the hdparm man page. [18:49] In any case, I cannot account for the difference either. [18:49] eviljames, ok tanks [18:49] I would look into filebench [18:50] and see what kind of results that provides, hopefully they are consistent with what you are seeing and your statements on ext4 are accurate (it is supposed to be pretty good) [18:52] eviljames: me too. I think Patrick Volkerding knows about this problem... And forgive me for my English, I use google translator [18:53] upyr[emacs]: what is your native language ? [18:53] deco: russian [18:53] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:53] upyr[emacs]: I'm sure volkerdi is aware of the issue and working on it. No worries about the English it has been good so far. [18:53] upyr[emacs]: oh :) [18:54] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:54] my english sucks and they put up with me.. you'll be fine [18:54] eviljames: thanks [18:55] deco: quasar: :) [18:55] Chapinha (i=0@201.53.196.77) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:56] the only problem is that you spelt 'vim' wrong [18:56] Ä [18:56] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429256.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:56] update in current! :) [18:56] hahahah [18:56] dive: too true. [18:56] upyr[emacs]: i don't speak russion:P but i play soccer with a russian :P [18:57] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429256.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:57] google's translator sucked with russian, so my ex informed me.. probably a bit better these days though [18:57] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [18:57] quasar: translators suck period [18:58] Action: quasar agrees [18:58] I like to shoot them with rubber bands from across the room when they're not looking [18:58] deco: good ^) [18:58] Action: fire|bird shoots quasar with a rubber band. :) [18:59] quasar: on this moment google translator works normal [18:59] Action: quasar stabs fire|bird in the eye with a plastic spoon. [18:59] Action: fire|bird stabs quasar with a plastic knife [18:59] upyr[emacs]: yeah, it's been about 6-7 years since I've used it [18:59] or any translator for that matter lol [19:00] Action: dive sets fire to fire|bird... oh wait.. been there [19:00] lol [19:00] Action: quasar flips fire|bird the bird. [19:00] brings kitty to each fire|bird :P [19:00] eat* [19:00] Action: fire|bird installs Ubuntu on quasar's computer. [19:00] :D [19:00] quasar: heh. 6-7 years ago, I did not have even access to the Internet [19:00] this one? go for it.. probably be better for it than Windows XP/Windows7 anyway [19:01] Action: dive wipes it off and installs windows 3.11 for workgroups [19:01] haha [19:01] quasar: ALL of them. [19:01] I'd kill you. [19:01] -9. [19:01] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:01] quasar: and I'd be reborn from the ashes. :) [19:01] what ashes? didn't say I'd burn you -_- [19:01] Action: dive steals quasar's boot.ini [19:02] kill -9 would make a phoenix burst into flame [19:02] hence, ashes. [19:02] eviljames: exactly. :) [19:02] Action: fire|bird erases quasar's hdds completely, there goes your collection. [19:03] oh noes! not teh pron :<< [19:03] Action: eviljames builds a magnotron into a cell phone and sends it to fire|bird [19:03] \o/ [19:03] Dial carefully, one of the buttons triggers the magnotron, but I won't tell you which one. [19:03] all of them! [19:03] HOLY.......What's with all the metal flying at me. [19:04] Action: fire|bird heads for his underground bunker. [19:04] holy duck wings batman! [19:04] eviljames: I think I found the button. [19:04] .. are we seriously this bored on a friday evening? [19:04] yes [19:05] If we weren't, do you think we'd be on irc? [19:05] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:05] fire|bird, you? yes.. us? no. [19:05] lol [19:05] We are on irc? [19:05] irc on the interwebz [19:06] Nick change: repsol_ -> adrenaline [19:06] quasar: If that's the case, then what's with the collection? :) [19:07] fire|bird: which one? your mom or your sister? [19:07] Action: quasar hides [19:07] Action: fire|bird sets fire to quasar's house. [19:07] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:07] Action: quasar goes back to lurker mode.. bbl :) [19:07] haha [19:08] later quasar, take care. [19:10] you guys just made me think of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fow7iUaKrq4 [19:10] "kill -9" [19:10] y0 fiya_werkin [19:11] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:11] uschi (n=uschi@g229048050.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [19:11] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [19:14] fire|bird: sup? [19:15] nm, just eating, you? [19:17] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [19:17] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [19:17] wb chopp [19:18] still at work, wanna go home! [19:18] fire|bird: thanks :) [19:18] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [19:19] hooray, installed! now, to figure out how to get my wirless card working @_@ [19:19] gonna end up giving gentoo a try tonight I think, can't think of anything else to do with my ati drivers on slack to get them to work [19:19] fiya_werkin: Have fun. :) [19:20] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [19:21] i can think of something else to do with your ati drivers on slack ... shove them up ATI's butt [19:21] judging by their quality, that's where they came from 8-) [19:21] lol [19:21] my laptop has ati :/ [19:21] appzer0_ (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] I guess I have some good times to look forward too then. :P [19:22] appzer0_ (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:22] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:22] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] not if you're using gentoo 8-P [19:22] I'll be eventually putting slack64 on there. [19:22] gentoo is better with them or worse? [19:23] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [19:23] well, supposedly there is a patched ebuild for gentoo that lets catalyst 9.7 work on 2.6.29/30 [19:23] if you install it rather than compile it, it's probably at least decent on the install part [19:23] and it could be worse (it could be Vista) [19:23] Atlas Shruggs too [19:24] but otherwise the compiling all the time bothers me a bit [19:24] I haven't had anything ati since my IBM pc's 166MHz and 233MHz, so a long time ago. :P [19:24] oh well, brb [19:24] with slack im stuck using radeon [19:24] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [19:24] yeah, not sure how i feel about the compiling, but guess i can put my quad core to use, and then if i decide to put gentoo on my media center, can use distcc to offload some work to my quad desktop that'll be set up [19:25] I tried gentoo once in a vm and it didn't go well, haven't tried it since then. [19:26] i tried it once, it was ok, but i hate missing a use flag, then having to remerge everything to add it back in [19:27] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [19:27] wb TwinReverb :) [19:27] prob an issue of not rtfm as much as i should [19:27] thanks [19:27] TwinReverb: was saying, not a fan of the compiling much either, but it'll let me put my new machine to an actual use heh [19:28] neur0sys (n=neur0sys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:28] are you using your new machine right now? [19:29] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:29] TwinReverb: yeah, thats the one with the ati card [19:30] ati 955BE processor [19:30] then you're putting it to actual use: you've got Slackware on it [19:30] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:35] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:36] alicephilippa (n=alice@host86-150-143-251.range86-150.btcentralplus.com) left irc: No route to host [19:37] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:37] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-110-92.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:37] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-110-92.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Client Quit [19:40] TwinReverb: yeah but can barely do anything i want on it, no 3d or anything performance wise - however, it works great for irssi over ssh :-D [19:41] irssi over ssh? why? [19:41] once catalyst 9.8 comes out i'll more than likely come back to slack [19:41] because im at work [19:41] oh [19:41] and i ssh into my home machine heh [19:41] MoZes (n=mozes@bourbon.biscuit.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:42] you're lucky 1) your ISP allows ssh and 2) your work place has ssh [19:42] yeah, we have a crapton of incoming/outgoing ssh so it's not closely monitored [19:42] however, you start up a remote desktop connection, you get a note the next day from corp security heh [19:43] nx works nicely :) [19:46] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [19:46] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [19:47] hmmm, can anyone suggest a PIM app? [19:47] kontact [19:47] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) left ##slackware. [19:47] bleh :P [19:48] i'm not excited about trying to install evolution (that's why) [19:48] yeah i'm not a fan of evolution either 8-) [19:49] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [19:50] especially since there's no slackbuild for it :P [19:52] omfg this is ugly... http://xmblackberry.sourceforge.net/ [19:54] o.O [19:55] all i know is if i just spent a lot of money on an expensive smartphone i would not go installing Linux on it, at least not for a couple of years then maybe i would tweak it [19:56] who said anything about installing linux on my blackberry? [19:56] i'm just gonna sync it [19:56] just checking [19:56] just looking to get a PIM app [19:57] and SBo doesn't have much in the way of 'em [19:57] s/SBo/Linux [19:57] although we already mentioned Evolution and Kontact [19:57] Kontact, i'm going to look at... Evolution is just... FUCK THAT! [19:57] have you searched freshmeat.net ? [19:58] if not Kontact (which is merely a way to incorporate the other applications like Kmail and Korganizer into one application) then there are other applications such as Orange (for Xfce, a calendar) and other things [19:58] the new format is fugly :( i'm still trying to figure it out [19:58] what is wrong with evolution [19:58] ? [19:58] Action: Necos points up [19:58] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-195-186.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [19:58] it's too big, too bloated, requires Gnome, and takes over most your software? (if the way applications act on other rpm-based distros can be used as a judge) [19:59] creationists dont belive in evolution ;p [19:59] lol [19:59] that too [19:59] 8-) [20:00] ha, this wireless is proving to be harder than I thought >.< [20:00] which wifi card? [20:01] rosewill rnx-n300 [20:01] i am not sure that is supported, let me check something [20:01] oh man, I was looking for an e-mail client for use at work since Thunderbird keeps freaking out when it's cache files are inneccesible from time to time (traveling between networks) and was looking at evolution until I saw the sheer volume of bits I would need to download. [20:01] kinda scary [20:01] alrightey [20:01] Action: TwinReverb has been using kmail/kontact for years now [20:02] yeah, evolution is like using a slegehammer to fix a pair of glasses [20:03] velusip: claws-mail is decent, and is available at SBo [20:03] the fun thing is you can run kmail separate from kontact if you want [20:03] Yeah, it's just gotta, like, not freeze and crash when files are inaccessible.. that's it. :P [20:05] sounds like some programmers weren't being stability-conscious when they were programming file input/output [20:05] or they weren't expecting an edge-case... [20:05] you'd think all open-file type commands would be preceded with "is the file there?" [20:05] 31M it seems, yes, pretty big app but it seems to have a large feature set [20:05] I hear pine does wonders. haha [20:05] htmlol: is that a pci card? usb wifi? pcmcia? [20:06] it's a pci card [20:06] it would be funny if someone made a gtk front-end to pine and called it pinesol [20:06] evolution is not a stand alone app, you have to install a shitload of gnome just to get evolution going [20:06] Anyone here know which package has libpoppler-glib.so.3 on 12.2? [20:06] TwinReverb: pretty sure that would be illegal, ha [20:06] ok, pine-sol [20:06] it's got a dash, it's not a violation 8-) [20:07] lol [20:07] so I'll make my program [20:07] taco-bell under the same logic! [20:07] damn, the only program from FM that looked decent was JPim, and it's defunct now ;-; [20:07] :) [20:07] poppler [20:07] chopp << thanks a lot for the suggestion, I'll try it out on Monday. :) [20:07] no e-mails allowed on weekends. [20:07] lol [20:07] htmlol: i did not see anything for that wifi card in the kernel source (2.6.27.29) maybe a newer kernel, i think your best bet would be either ndiswrapper or get a known linux compatible card [20:08] mancha, ah... I just did a slackpkg reinstall xD [20:08] velusip: np [20:08] hm yeah, I figured. thanks for checking. I actually managed to get ndiswrapper installed, but I can't seem to find the drivers online...I have the vista .inf, but that doesn't seem to work with ndiswrapper [20:09] the vista .inf is likely a 64 bit driver? [20:09] yes, it is [20:09] i have heard older drivers are best, win2k xp [20:09] yeah [20:09] Action: TwinReverb doesn't think .inf is a driver [20:09] it's an info file on the driver i think [20:09] I'm trying to find an xp machine to run the installer on [20:09] try to get a driver for an ealier windows, didn't it come with a CD? [20:09] so I can somehow locate the installed driver [20:10] yeah, but it just has an .exe [20:11] htmllol: http://web.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html [20:11] knowck yourself out [20:12] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: "Leaving" [20:12] mancha wants to help too >.> [20:12] that is something i overlooked, htmlol what is more important than the name brand of the wifi card is the chip (or whatever) on the wifi card (what actually makes the card work) [20:13] lspci -v if you would [20:13] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-228-113.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:13] Necos: me? [20:14] bo0 [20:14] yeah [20:14] Pig_Pen is right [20:14] htmlol try out the 2860 stuff [20:16] ok, I've downloaded it etc., looks like an installable .tgz so I suppose I'll use installpkg on it [20:16] CeruleanC (n=Cerulean@unaffiliated/ceruleanc) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:16] negatory [20:17] better check that, you might need to build it [20:17] htmlol, unless it says it is a slackware package and the proper version, it's not a slackware package just because it ends in .tgz [20:17] .tgz is also a common way to write .tar.gz in general, pat's usage came later [20:17] lspci -v claims 2760, but the vista driver is called netr28x.inf so I suppose that's fine [20:17] those .tgz on the site are tar.gz files [20:17] that's why i'm actually happy with .txz [20:17] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@173-18-61-44.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [20:17] ah. [20:17] ok. [20:18] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: "221 GoodBye - WeeChat 0.3.0-rc2" [20:18] Nick change: phoenix^ -> Guest99518 [20:19] note pat's .tgz are _also_ tar.gz files but they have a certain format (like the install dir) that allow *pkg tools to use them [20:19] ah alright [20:20] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:20] not to mention that they are containers for runnable code (compiled or otherwise executable) [20:20] oh. well that's very different then, heheh [20:21] very, very different ^_^ [20:21] alright, I make & make install'ed that package [20:21] it should have installed a driver module, yes? [20:22] I'm afraid I don't really know how to determine that [20:22] determine what? [20:22] did it come with an INSTALL or README file? [20:23] no [20:23] TwinReverb: if it has a driver module [20:23] nothing inside the tarball with instructions? [20:23] oh, wait. sorry. it has some README_STA; I'll skim that now [20:24] go by what the package says [20:24] and/or website [20:26] Billtoo (n=root@bas4-unionville55-1176016539.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:27] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [20:28] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:29] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [20:30] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:30] re [20:30] Analysis: A Federal Judge has ruled against Microsoft in a patent violation lawsuit brought by a company called i4i involving the use of XML in Microsft Word. [20:30] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429256.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:30] Nick change: Guest99518 -> fire|bird [20:31] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:31] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] opera died [20:31] ? [20:31] any comments re MS and xml? [20:31] who cares? [20:32] hey fire|bird [20:32] we do [20:32] that's why i post. [20:32] hm, alright...its instructions have given me a wireless interface ra0. now to figure out how to use my wpa2 key with it, ha-heh [20:32] Hey LF4 [20:32] LF4: How's it going? [20:32] just someone else MS will have to buy [20:32] XML is a working standard... there's nothing to say :P [20:32] It's going alright thanks, how about with you? [20:32] Nick change: sidmario_ -> sidmario [20:33] chris2 (n=chris@p5B169568.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [20:33] east texas is where all the patent trolls go file their suits, its a local business for the courts [20:33] lol [20:33] LF4: Going great, thanks. [20:33] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-104.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [20:33] fire|bird: Good to hear :) [20:33] kinda shitty that people go after Office, because it's probably the most useful thing microsoft puts out [20:34] LF4: Still trying to image this laptop hdd. :P [20:34] HAhAHA [20:34] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: "221 GoodBye - WeeChat 0.3.0-rc3" [20:34] LF4: I should probably eventually quit eh? [20:34] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [20:34] fire|bird: I say take your camera and use it to image your harddrive. [20:35] hahaha, If only that would work. [20:35] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:35] fire|bird: No lol because I'm going to end up on your path soon. [20:35] :) [20:36] htmlol having an interface is up is 9/10 of the battle, seems like you're almost set [20:36] Even the VMware Converter method failed, it said (VMware Player that is) something was missing. :/ [20:37] fire|bird: Once I get my HDD (Monday or Tuesday) I'll be completing my setup with all these computers. Then its on to imaging which from your luck makes me worried. [20:37] mancha: yep. and thanks, everybody, for that :) [20:37] LF4: haha, well hopefully you have better luck than me. [20:37] LF4: If it wasn't windows on the hdd, I'd probably have been done by now. :/ [20:38] fire|bird: Watch me get it the first time. :P Then i'll let you know what I did right. :D [20:38] hahaha [20:38] fire|bird: oh good point lol I just installed server 2k3 the other day haha it's been years since I installed windows. [20:39] np [20:40] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [20:44] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [20:45] damn i ffox cant negotiate a crypto scheme with comcast [20:45] "nothing in common" [20:45] none [20:46] bbs [20:46] >.> [20:48] long weekend \o/ [20:48] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.33.48) joined ##slackware. [20:49] hey [20:49] she_dyed (n=jazz@adsl-2-233-86.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [20:49] hey is for horses [20:49] i learned that on a farm [20:49] grass is cheaper [20:49] eviljames: same here <('.'-<) <(-'.'-)> (>-'.')> [20:50] lol eviljames its hay not hey [20:50] good ol kirby [20:50] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [20:51] Greetings Programs [20:51] anybody use ecomorph around here [20:51] greetings NyteOwl, how's it going? [20:51] http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9558/b8a4367b001a.gif [20:52] Billtoo (n=root@bas4-unionville55-1176016539.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0-rc3" [20:52] hi fire|bird not too bad. another hot day, jsut when we had a couple of nice pelasant days. [20:52] Action: LF4 waves to NyteOwl [20:52] other than that just trying to decide whether to spend some bucks :) [20:53] hy LF4 [20:53] s/hy/hey/ [20:53] s/hey/hay/ [20:53] lol [20:53] wait, that's not right.. [20:53] eviljames: I'm no horse :P [20:53] it is if you're a goat [20:53] moooooo [20:53] :) [20:54] NyteOwl: goats dont make the sound moooo... [20:54] lol [20:54] I know :) [20:54] well that's the sound your mother made last night! [20:54] ouch [20:54] no snl fans in the house? [20:54] eviljames: My mothers dead. [20:55] jokes on you, my mom don't live inside a fenced in pasture [20:55] Nick change: she_dyed -> she_afk [20:55] next time, remember, human beings live in houses. stop screwing cows 8-P [20:55] lol [20:55] haha [20:55] if it goes "moo" it's a cow, we learned that in preschool, remember? 8-) [20:56] was wondering why one cow was giving bloody milk yesterday [20:56] or a politician - hard to tell apart [20:56] large gas producing, dumb, slow moving cud chewing ear twitching .... [20:56] well, windows is claiming this copy of windows isn't genuine. time to actually reboot into slack [20:56] brb [20:56] amazon10x, wait [20:56] be sure you delete windows too 8-) [20:57] lol [20:57] TwinReverb: when amazon10x boots in to slackware they will do a fdisk /windows ;) [20:57] ah [20:57] but wouldn't that be fdisk /dev/sda or /dev/hda ? [20:58] windows stays until i can transfer all of my crpa off of it [20:58] brb f'real this time [20:58] pfft that's what you said last time 8-D [20:58] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:59] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [21:00] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:00] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [21:00] TR, how'd ya build Kontact? [21:01] fiya_werkin (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:03] Necos: Kontact? That's in slackware. [21:04] it is? lol go figure [21:04] yeah, it is. :) [21:05] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:05] opra wont do https. with comcast [21:05] i'm not a big fan of KDE, but if this is the only way i can sync my blackberry, fuck it [21:05] Necos: which the blackberry or KDE? [21:05] Orion_ (n=Orion@99-36-114-216.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:06] Necos: Kontact is really nice tbh. [21:06] Action: TwinReverb uses Xfce, only uses kde for a few applications [21:06] holy fk. i cant connect to https [21:06] Action: chopp has no kde installed, and likes it like dat [21:06] Necos: i find kontact to be one of the most useful programs, the akregator widget is how i get all my news. [21:07] PurpleSmurf: ydiw :) [21:07] Action: LF4 uses gnome :P haha [21:07] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] Hmm I need a good app to capture webcam data [21:07] ydow? [21:07] LF4: WHAT?!? [21:07] fire|bird: what's that? [21:07] maybe comcast is doing some non-standard stuff with its https [21:07] PurpleSmurf: you're doing it wrong. ydiw :D [21:07] Action: NyteOwl 0prefers GNOME too [21:07] Action: eviljames raises his hand as well [21:07] or their https is screwed up [21:07] fire|bird: Haha i knew that would get someone's attention. [21:07] I too, use GNOME. [21:07] fire|bird: clicking at i usually do. [21:07] eviljames: I suspected that all along you gnome fanboy. :P [21:07] fire|bird: in my defense, osol. [21:07] hehe [21:07] TwinReverb: i did see a msg saying smoeth about not supporting all *s methods [21:08] eviljames, NyteOwl when you first boot your gnome, and fire up all your applications, do "free -m" and see how much gnome is hogging [21:08] eviljames: yeah, I know, but osol actually has a decent gnome implementation. [21:08] Action: eviljames is a kde fanboy [21:08] eviljames: As am I now that I've experienced KDE4. :) [21:08] TwinReverb: i only use it on opensolaris, and the machine has PLENTY of ram. [21:08] TwinReverb; I know - about the same as KDE :p [21:08] kde4 at first pissed me off royally but now i'm ok with it [21:08] eviljames, doesn't matter, i'm interested in how efficient it is (or is not) [21:08] fire|bird: but that does remind me, did you see the announcement of the Korona release? [21:08] TwinReverb: but there was no info provided on what they use [21:09] KDE has *always* pissed me off [21:09] yeah [21:09] TwinReverb: and withouit https i cant chat with them either. cant signup [21:09] KDE is bleh... it looks all cartoony :P [21:09] I have yet to test KDE4 but I use xfce most of the time. [21:09] login that is [21:09] NyteOwl: ++ [21:09] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:09] after I get everything set up I'm gonna switch back to wmii [21:09] there is 8GB in this machine but currently in 32bit so only have access to 4 [21:09] TwinReverb: i haven't bothered checking - but i don't seem to use swap ever. [21:09] Necos: I've heard people say that and I don't really understand it. [21:09] the color choices and the widget drawing [21:10] hi chpp, how goes it? get your new phone yet? [21:10] eviljames: No, I hadn't. Gosh, I haven't booted my osol drive for a few weeks. I need to do some updates, etc. :P [21:10] eviljames, which is why i asked if either of you could check for me (which implies a reboot) [21:10] it doesn't look right [21:10] assuming you can reboot [21:10] eviljames: I remember you saying it would be being released soon though, thanks for the reminder. [21:10] i mean i have 2GB ram but i'm still a ram efficiency freak [21:10] s/freak/zealot [21:10] because i absolutely hate swap [21:11] NyteOwl: greetings to you as well :) I didn't get a different phone yet..I chose to upgrade laptops instead. :P [21:11] TwinReverb: same here :) black plain background xfce ++ [21:11] :) ah well, good priotities handling :) [21:11] well i like my family photo on the desktop but still .... [21:11] er priorities [21:11] all my machines have always gotten a ram upgrade to their max [21:12] fire|bird: korona.iso should be available on genunix.org - i just fired up a vm to check it out [21:12] i would even at first price laptops by how much they cost PLUS RAM upgrade to maximumn [21:12] but it looks like I'm rebooting to opensolaris first :D [21:12] s/maximumn/maximum [21:12] eviljames: sweet, thanks. [21:12] TwinReverb: Mine to well besides this old P3 I just fixed up. [21:12] Opensolaris? grumble mutter snarl [21:12] i dont know what to do here; dont care for ff but opera's performance, abilities and preferences are quickly degrading [21:13] how do you like opensolaris? [21:13] menus dont drop; buttons dont drop, double mouse click bounces [21:13] PurpleSmurf: Just use elinks ;) [21:13] PurpleSmurf: I've used Opera since 6.x or 7.x, seriously, I've never had the issues you're having. You'r pc is messed up, or at least your opera install. [21:13] fire|bird: yea you said prev [21:13] when i made that dual p3 for my wife, immsmw i bought it out of the box (parts) with max RAM [21:13] fire|bird: or maybe some js [21:14] TwinReverb: dual p3? [21:14] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:14] yeah it's dead now but back when p4 first came out this thing smoked 'em all [21:14] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:14] NyteOwl: did you ever deal with that shop in Edmonton? [21:14] tyan tiger 230T main board, dual p3 tualatin 1.13ghz each (512k L2 cache each) three sticks PC133 ECC kingston RAM [21:15] ata100 but oh well 8-) [21:15] Orion (n=Orion@99-36-114-216.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] TwinReverb: Nice lol [21:15] chopp: which one? [21:15] fire|bird: ok; renamed ~skin/ and ~menu/ ; restarted; let's see how this does [21:15] bought it for my wife to do some adobe illustrator / photoshop with [21:16] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:16] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:16] NyteOwl: the license plate shop [21:16] Action: LF4 leaves to get something to eat. [21:16] fire|bird: and the user js/ and ~themes [21:17] gsxs (n=gsxs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [21:17] menus still not dropping on 1st click [21:17] ok, back. [21:17] chopp: ahok, no I found a local fellow who does some :) [21:17] damn nra freebie page won't take my info [21:17] farking windows-centric webmasters [21:17] wb eviljames :) [21:17] hmmm [21:17] then again - it doesn't work in windows anyway [21:18] TR, have you used bitpim before, by chance? [21:18] i don't call 'em webmasters, i call 'em frontpage users 8-) [21:18] NyteOwl: right on. I just thought of it today cleaning off my desk, and came across the note to myself to call them for you :P [21:18] should I upgrade-all or install-new first? [21:18] 'tis more accurate since they can't read HTML [21:18] I just downlaoded bitpim but can't seem to get a driver so I can access my phone :( [21:18] Necos, no [21:18] has anyone here used opensuse? [21:18] Orion, ? [21:18] poop lol [21:18] menus stil not dropping; js and java=off [21:19] TwinReverb: when using -current and slackpkg, i'm wondering if I should call slackpkg upgrade-all or install-new first. [21:19] i wouldn't use slackpkg [21:19] telinit 1 login as root upgradepkg */*.txz [21:20] (assuming you are on -current already) [21:20] TwinReverb, upgrade then install new [21:20] Orion: what version are you upgraiding from? [21:20] if you are on 12.2, it's more involved [21:20] read UPGRADE.TXT at that point [21:20] i'm on -current, just looking for upgrades [21:20] yeah my first command would probably be fine then [21:21] people on -current eager for upgrades, wow! and to thnk i'm still on a 2.2.x colonel [21:21] no way [21:21] kernel [21:21] TwinReverb: so I have gnome going, 2 terminals open, compositing & awn dock running - 1.3GB used according to top. [21:21] dang [21:22] Action: TwinReverb shakes his head in disbelief [21:22] now, my results aren't fair [21:22] what a waste [21:22] because that will include something like the zfs ARC cache [21:22] i have xfce compositing going with xchat, firefox, kontact, skype, and pidgin and i think at first launch of all apps it's like 600MB [21:22] that's being logged into facebook so java is raping my RAM [21:23] oh, add openoffice to that [21:23] man. 13 needs to come out so that kde 4.3 can go into -current [21:24] Guest5362 (n=jubei@cpe-98-155-140-177.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:24] you know, i've never used links -g until now, this is great [21:25] heh [21:25] all this time i could have saved myself so much problems [21:25] problems like what? [21:25] http://pastebin.com/m1532faea question [21:25] trying to find resolutions to issues just browsing around with regular links [21:26] s/re//g [21:26] when i couldn't get x working [21:26] chris2_ (n=chris@p5B16AE85.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [21:26] TwinReverb: now, adding ff, nautilus and gedit - 1.55 used. [21:26] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:26] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [21:26] svgalib: Cannot open /dev/mem [21:26] i get that when doing links -g [21:26] and dropping.? [21:26] amazon10x: wasn't svgalib removed? [21:26] eviljames, nautilus is used when gnome is first run anyways, so it's not being "added" [21:27] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.33.48) left irc: "Saliendo" [21:27] chris2_ (n=chris@p5B16AE85.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [21:27] i'm watching "i, robot" [21:27] sorry [21:28] if we watch "i, robot" does will smith watch "you, robot" ? [21:28] too bad that movie didn't actually follow the book [21:28] TwinReverb: it's probably just ff that causes the change, but don't trust my numbers - gware is worth a shot to try out gnome i think. [21:28] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [21:28] NyteOwl: is the book better [21:28] i've tried gware before, i used to test it for them all the time, it's not bad [21:28] much [21:28] imho [21:28] much better than any other gnome for slackware imho [21:29] the movie has a totally different storyline [21:29] well, i'll have to tackle this contact thing over the weekend... On monday, blackberry syncing in linux [21:29] laters [21:29] later Necos [21:30] but gnome itself is way too bloated for me, sorry [21:30] unless you can show me how much of that RAM is compiz [21:31] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [21:33] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-104.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:34] mount -o noatime,remount / [21:34] slakware64 will be pure 64-bits forever? [21:34] how much faster am i now [21:34] powtrix, don't know, ask patrick [21:34] i would think if he puts out both versions, probably will stay 64bit [21:34] here's hoping. [21:35] i mean it might seem like an inconvenience at first but it does make it less likely that we'll have lib issues [21:35] isn't slamd64 a 32/64 bit thing? [21:36] slamd64 was 64bit but had 32bit libs in like /extra or something [21:36] iirc [21:36] slamd64 was a 64bit implementation of slackware prior to slackware64's (public) existance. [21:37] now, fred has created some compat32 libraries to supplement what slackware64 has - I installed them today actually :D [21:37] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:37] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:39] maybe an implementation of compat32 in /extra would be nice [21:40] what would be even more slick is if there were a way to install slackware packages in /opt/something [21:40] are there online logs of this channel? [21:40] yes [21:40] /topic [21:40] where are they at [21:41] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:41] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:41] amazon10x, http://wigglit.ath.cx/slackware_botlogs/ [21:41] google, second result, has a link to it [21:41] thanks [21:41] http://www.google.com/search?q=%23%23slackware+logs&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a [21:41] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:42] woah. the dates are backwards [21:42] 31may2008 [21:42] instead of 2008may31 [21:42] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [21:42] chris2 (n=chris@p5B169568.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [21:43] yht (n=yht@125.161.63.102) joined ##slackware. [21:43] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [21:44] the best log name is in yyyymmdd format imo [21:44] duly noted [21:45] Action: TwinReverb shrugs "the military prefers DDMMMYYYY " [21:46] yyyymmdd is much superior [21:46] Guest5362 (n=jubei@cpe-98-155-140-177.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:46] because it properly sorts alphabetically [21:46] do you have a friend who works in precision measurement? [21:46] oh here we go [21:47] depends. if you need to refer to a lot of recent material in a hurry, especially manaully using d/m/y is faster as everythignt acticla will liekly be within a few days or at most months in the current eyar [21:47] My brother knows a guy a who knows a guy who knows Mel Gibson.... [21:47] because you're splitting hairs at the subatomic level [21:47] you dont need to find browsing the file, just time bla.com/file-yyyymmdd.log @ browser [21:47] i'm actually jealous at the level of precision that takes 8-P [21:47] antiwire: I got the image working with VMware Converter and VBox. :D [21:47] but yes for general dtabase storage y/m/d is a more logical approach for storing alrge amounts of archioval data [21:47] s/time/type [21:48] logical to you [21:48] it's his logs, he can sort 'em any way he wants [21:48] yipper :) [21:48] when you run a log parser you can sort them any way you want [21:49] behold the power of originality and creativity [21:49] and free will [21:49] 8-) [21:49] echo 1 > /proc/sys/libertarian # 8-) [21:51] meh firefox on linux = the suck [21:51] since the guy who runs that site hasn't been online in this channel for a long time, i don't think he cares right now [21:51] can't wait till chrome comes to nix [21:51] Orion, FF on linux > FF on Vista [21:51] Chroem sux [21:52] I have no problems with FF [21:52] I like it, its speedy [21:52] Action: TwinReverb didn't know chrome breathed [21:52] it's not secure [21:52] is chrome open source? [21:52] yes [21:52] chromium [21:52] sluckxz (n=sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] SkyNet_ONE (n=Ederson@187.10.16.91) joined ##slackware. [21:53] time to go get a tea check the news . later all! [21:53] htmlol (n=knoppix@ool-457a3d2d.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:53] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "Leaving" [21:53] later NyteOwl [21:54] hba (n=hba@189.188.142.63) joined ##slackware. [21:54] is it legal to have a car with completely covered wheel wells like in i robot? [21:54] yep [21:55] in the us anyways [21:55] I see some cars with 2 wheel wells covered [21:55] i wonder why some car manufactureer hasn't done that yet [21:55] i know the hybrids do it for the back wheels i think, or close to it [21:56] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:56] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:57] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:57] it looks goofy thats why [21:57] lol [21:57] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [21:58] Hi everyone [21:58] hello [21:58] Orion (n=Orion@99-36-114-216.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:58] amazon10x: google images search for fender skirts [21:59] Pig_Pen: yeah, like that [21:59] i would want it al the way down to the road though [21:59] Action: TwinReverb thinks fender skirts r0x [21:59] http://robson.m3rlin.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/audi_rsq_sports_coupe_concept-copy.jpg [22:00] the only thing that makes them suck is when they're not easily removed (i.e. changing / rotating / fixing tires) [22:00] gsxs (n=gsxs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:00] be practicle as soon as you hit a bump or drive on an unlevel surface they will drag the ground [22:00] hello [22:00] Pig_Pen, then you don't drive on those type places [22:00] sorry i slipped. [22:00] and/or you get hydraulics so that you can change your ride height [22:00] they wouldn't go all the way to the ground [22:00] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:01] just as low as the side skirts [22:01] Action: TwinReverb would envision a sensing system that prevents them from hitting the pavement [22:01] http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3511/3195616716_08c4055ea9.jpg [22:01] i wonder when white-walled tires are going to come back in style [22:01] http://farm1.static.flickr.com/206/483253534_4a633cca70.jpg [22:02] Action: TwinReverb thinks they're already style [22:02] http://img.interia.pl/poboczem/nimg/Galeria_2661215.jpg [22:02] oh that one's rpetty close [22:03] yht (n=yht@125.161.63.102) left irc: "I must go.." [22:03] another bank's assets and deposits sold in Flor. [22:03] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] sold to who? [22:04] the largest bank of 70 sold; Colonial to BB&T [22:04] TwinReverb it's not OT bc colonial was a major "user" of FOSS :) [22:04] i think [22:04] heh [22:05] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [22:05] who needs practical, i see pickup trucks that have been lowered to like an inch off the ground heh [22:05] just trying to be friendly [22:05] :) [22:05] around here you couldnt' do it, all hills and potholes [22:05] TwinReverb hipocrit :) you're doin a OT thingy too :) [22:05] but do i complain? nop. [22:05] hypocrit [22:06] s/hypocrit/hypocrite [22:06] greek->engrish [22:06] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:06] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:06] http://www.polskajazda.pl/foto/foto-zoom/smyq1987IMG_7984.jpg [22:06] lololol [22:06] Quiznos, you're greek? [22:06] geek maybe [22:06] no but i do read alil from biblical studies [22:06] wintery: hah [22:06] agiofws is greek. [22:06] meaning holy light. [22:07] htmlol (n=knoppix@ool-457a3d2d.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] still working on the wireless >.< [22:08] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:08] it'll come. [22:08] htmlol: have you tried wicd? [22:08] indeed, 'tis what I am trying [22:08] funny thing is [22:09] I think it's connecting fine, but wicd thinks it isn't [22:09] echo 'lol' ><^ lol.txt [22:09] htmlol: You need to choose wicd or the stock scripts, not both [22:09] the stock scripts need to be disabled for wicd [22:09] my router shows that it has given my computer an IP and all, but wicd exits saying Unable to get an IP address [22:10] how would I go about doing that, /etc/rc.d/rc.inetd stop or something? [22:10] htmlol: because wicd is a useless piece of crap [22:11] no. rc.inetd is the super daemon. You need to remove the interface names from any configured stanzas in rc.inet1.conf [22:11] wintery: ha-ha...your alternative? [22:11] konsole? [22:11] I use the standard scripts for all networking [22:11] gnome-terminal? [22:11] wintery, works fine here [22:11] xterm?!?!!? [22:11] For wireless, I setup rc.inet1.conf to use wpa_supplicant to handle open, WEP, WPA{1|2} [22:12] wicd isn't really needed [22:12] i usually shut off rc.inet1.conf and rc.wireless [22:12] wicd isn't needed but it's convenient [22:12] agreed. [22:12] /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [22:12] wintery: wpa_supplicant etc. has not been kind to me [22:13] to me also [22:13] was not abusive either [22:14] err [22:14] was not nice also ><^ [22:14] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [22:14] i found it was mostly harmless [22:14] urg, i love that quit message [22:15] http://pastebin.ca/1530104 [22:15] you do not need wicd. [22:16] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:16] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "leaving" [22:16] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:17] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) joined ##slackware. [22:17] wicd rocks [22:17] the only thing i could use wicd to do is have an option to disable the ip4 autoconf ip address concept [22:17] antiwire: unfortunately, using this method makes wpa_supplicant deny my psk [22:17] it says it's invalid. [22:18] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:18] htmlol: did you read my notes about formatting? [22:18] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [22:18] htmlol: is the psk you have in HEX or ASCII form? [22:18] but it's perfectly valid. I use it to connect on 3 other machines. 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[22:21] right now, the router has wpa and wpa2 enabled [22:21] what does your configuration block look like? [22:21] naturally I'd prefer wpa2 [22:22] pastebin your configuration block, obfuscate your key if you want to [22:22] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-17-104.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "fui" [22:23] alright. it'll take a bit though, I need to type it manually [22:23] And how did you test wpa_supplicant this will report verbose output: wpa_supplicant -ddd -Dwext -iwlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [22:23] forget typing it manually... [22:24] hehe [22:24] I'll tell you what the output of that is in a minute [22:24] i assume you used wpa_passphrase, aye? [22:25] htmlol did you get that wifi card working? [22:25] mancha: if the AP is reporting it in hex mode he shouldn't need to use the passphrase tool [22:25] it will be double converted in that case. [22:25] ? [22:26] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-17-104.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:26] he said his key is in HEX mode already. wpa_passphrase takes a SSID and an ascii passphrase to converts it into a HEX formatted code [22:26] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-152-23-61.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [22:27] TwinReverb: having freshly booted into kde4 - top shows ~750 used in ram [22:27] hello everyone, how's everyone's night (or day :)) going? [22:27] RipVanWinkle: I have an interface, I'm still working on connecting [22:27] htmlol: I do find it odd that your router is reporting you WPA passphrase in HEX mode though. [22:27] TwinReverb: so maybe within your pain threshold :D [22:27] I have never seen a router that does this for WPA [22:27] good deal [22:27] eviljames, well i have 2GB RAM but no, my point was that gnome + compiz = a huge waste of RAM [22:27] htmlol: what model AP is it? [22:27] ok, if you have a passphrase you need to use wpa_passphrase. the wpa standard uses psk for authentication, not passphrases. [22:27] antiwire: it lets me type it in manually. I had it generate me a random one. [22:27] I use tomato [22:28] you can own 1GB RAM on your laptop but with gnome + compiz you're already into swap, which is pathetic [22:28] where is the .emacs file located in slackware ? i can't seem to find it [22:28] and I don't have a passphrase, I have a key. [22:28] we claim to be better than Vista ... not in that department (at least not with Gnome + Compiz) [22:28] granted users can configure their stuff but this comment was mainly related to Ubuntu's default which I found to be appalling [22:28] mancha: again, wpa_passphrase is for creating the key from the SSID and an ASCII string. it is not for taking the SSID + HEX version of the key [22:29] antiwire: it tells me I have an invalid psk [22:29] If tomato is already outputing the SSID+ASCII in HEX form, wpa_passphrase is not needed and the output from tomato goes into the wpa_supplicant.conf as a HEX string and unquoted. [22:30] htmlol: so then, are you certain tomato is showing you a hex string and not an ascii string that looks like hex? [22:30] how can i restart the X by command line? [22:30] startx [22:30] a randomly generated ASCII string can look like just a HEX string...for what that's worth. [22:31] restart I mean, im on kde [22:31] antiwire: not entirely sure, no. I'll quote it and try again. [22:31] htmlol: why don't you manually set a passphrase? [22:31] ... [22:31] ctrl & alt + backspace [22:31] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-17-104.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:32] set a passphrase in tomato and then in the wpa_supplicant.conf initially try psk="myphraseinenglishhere" [22:32] it doesn't have a passphrase field; it has a single field called Shared Key [22:32] set that to something in english [22:32] erm [22:32] erm what? [22:33] I don't really want to update all 5 of the machines that use this network, hah [22:33] sweet!! one of the best things to be on youtube yet! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22hUHCr-Tos&feature=featured [22:33] ok forget it then [22:33] unless you're convinced it's the -only- way [22:33] anyway [22:33] now it didn't say it's not valid (I don't think...it's scrolling fast) [22:33] htmlol: this is just a test [22:33] you don't need to go update all the damn systems yet. [22:33] we are trying to figure out wtf is wrong. [22:34] where's the .emacs file located in slackware ? [22:34] ok [22:35] it didn't give me the error anymore when I quoted my key, though [22:35] so I guess it was ascii after all [22:35] i know what wpa_passphrase does i also know the 4-way protocol for wpa authentication [22:35] mancha: then you know that wpa_passphrase is not always required too. [22:35] now, wpa_supplicant is giving me a ton of scanning output [22:36] saying No suitable AP found. [22:36] Who ya goin to call!? [22:36] htmlol: then there is something wrong still [22:36] :( [22:36] htmlol: since you don't have some way to pastebin the output of anything you do there isn't much we can do to help troubleshoot. [22:37] my wpa_supplicant.conf looks exactly like your example one now [22:37] there shold be no issue connecting to the tomato firmware, use a standard wpa_supplicant.conf entry [22:37] is suspend-to-ram support not compiled into the default slackware kernel? [22:37] the only things that are changed are the ssid and the psk fields [22:37] read the wpa_supplicant debug info for clues as to what is messing up [22:37] amazon10x, pretty sure it is [22:38] well, i'm hittin the suspend-to-ram button in the kde menu and nothing happens. any ideas? [22:38] htmlol: you have absolutely no way to copy the wpa_supplicant debug output to a pastebin? no USB stick or anything? [22:38] where's the .emacs file located in slackware ? [22:39] also make sure nothing funky on the tomato side (MAC restrictions etc) [22:39] amazon10x, well I don't know about KDE, sorry, I just usually type in pm-suspend on my laptop [22:39] blackorca: i'll try that [22:40] I actually could use a usb stick. I'll do that; the output doesn't stop, though, so after how long would you like me to cut it off? [22:40] ff [22:40] amazon10x: type this at a terminal: if ! (getent group power | grep -q $USER 2>/dev/null) ; then echo "Add $USER to \"power\" group. ; fi [22:40] amazon10x, pm-is-supported --suspend that should tell you if it's supported, I think [22:40] ooh, it worked [22:40] amazon10x, pm-suspend worked? [22:40] deco: a .emacs should be in your home directory...if it isn't there, then it doesn't exist and you must create it [22:40] htmlol: ah ok yeah it's not there [22:40] htmlol: paste the wpa_supplicant.conf too [22:40] blackorca: yes [22:41] :) [22:41] Action: TwinReverb figured out a way to use a common /home directory but use flash either for 32bit or 64bit depending on which is booted [22:41] antiwire: ok. [22:41] amazon10x: you typed it as root, right? [22:41] SkyNet_ONE (n=Ederson@187.10.16.91) left irc: "Kiss, call me hahaha!!!" [22:41] pilipo (n=chatzill@122.55.51.200) joined ##slackware. [22:41] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [22:42] rworkman:i typed pm-susped as root [22:42] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:42] when i typr your thing in it gives me the ">" prompt [22:42] there is no power group in my /etc/group fil [22:42] file* [22:42] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [22:42] amazon10x: huh? [22:42] oh wait, yes there is [22:43] Re the first ">" thing, add a double quote after the period. [22:43] vim didn't find it the first time for some reason [22:43] Re the second, make sure your user account is in the power group. That will let it work. [22:43] KDE's power manager thingamajig doesn't bother to even try to tell you why it fails; it just silently fails. [22:43] okay, just added it. if i don't come back then it worked. TIA [22:44] You'll have to log out and back in, and reload the messagebus service [22:44] oh ok. i'll go with pm-suspend for now then. thanks for your help rworkman and blackorca [22:45] :) [22:45] htmlol: thanks it worked got my modes workign :D [22:46] antiwire: http://pastebin.ca/1530116 is my wpa_supplicant.conf, and http://pastebin.ca/1530119 is the output of that command [22:46] deco: np :) [22:46] htmlol: ok, that PSK is not HEX [22:47] it is in fact ASCII [22:47] now that this has been sorted out we can do what mancha suggested. [22:47] I think I may have asked this already a while back [22:47] use wpa_passphrase? [22:47] but does anyone know if pat is planning to add 32-lib support for 64-bit 13.0? [22:47] htmlol: yes we can try that and then use the output of that command for psk= noquotes [22:48] htmlol: psk=d9f8f4bb35762e442d05fd5d23e2240eb955a6a856ca487ce5644fd29ecf9d17 [22:48] that is what you should use [22:49] tomato should not have an issue with the ASCII phrase though so something else can be wrong [22:49] mm, my wpa_passphrase generated the same. alright I'll give you the output of that, then [22:49] ok [22:50] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:50] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [22:53] antiwire: http://pastebin.ca/1530123 [22:54] line 97 doesn't look promising [22:54] yeah. line 1, too ;) [22:56] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "leaving" [22:57] did you have to manually load the driver for this card? [22:57] I did. it took us a bit in here to get even that working, heh [22:58] that's why it's ra0 instead of wlan0 or summat [22:58] right [22:58] which driver is it using? [22:58] rt2860 [22:59] sluckxz (n=sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:59] htmlol: did you have to do a manual compile of that driver? [22:59] yes I did [23:00] do you still have the sources for it? [23:00] yep. [23:01] ok, and just to it's clear, are you using 12.2? [23:01] http://www.ralinktech.com.tw/data/drivers/2009_0521_RT2860_Linux_STA_V2.1.2.0.tgz [23:01] yes. [23:02] one sec [23:03] ok [23:03] Nick change: hackedhe1d -> hackedhead [23:03] I think i go tit [23:03] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:03] time to rebuild that driver but we need to make a modification [23:04] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [23:04] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-20-181.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:04] oh? [23:04] We need to edit this file 2009_0521_RT2860_Linux_STA_V2.1.2.0/os/linux/config.mk [23:05] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [23:05] there are two lines in there about wpa_supplicant support [23:05] change them from n to y [23:05] oooh ok [23:05] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [23:06] then in the top level 2009_0521_RT2860_Linux_STA_V2.1.2.0/ [23:06] type make clean [23:06] and then make again [23:06] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [23:06] ChickenMilk (n=user@196-209-170-152-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [23:06] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:06] ChickenMilk kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Everybody is fed up with you troll [23:07] htmlol (n=knoppix@ool-457a3d2d.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:07] HAS_WPA_SUPPLICANT=y and HAS_NATIVE_WPA_SUPPLICANT_SUPPORT=y [23:08] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] htmlol (n=knoppix@ool-457a3d2d.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] htmlol: any luck? [23:10] very sorry about that, this old computer overheated. could you please resay your last few lines? [23:12] We need to edit this file 2009_0521_RT2860_Linux_STA_V2.1.2.0/os/linux/config.mk; these lines: HAS_WPA_SUPPLICANT=y and HAS_NATIVE_WPA_SUPPLICANT_SUPPORT=y Then in the top level 2009_0521_RT2860_Linux_STA_V2.1.2.0/ and type 'make clean' and then 'make' [23:12] what did you do to install the driver initially? [23:12] basically, do that same process again but edit the file and make clean first [23:12] cool? [23:12] yep, ok [23:14] I edited, and now I'm recompiling [23:14] k [23:14] you'll want to modprobe -r the currently loaded driver module and reload this new copy [23:14] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:14] it actually uses insmod [23:15] as long as the new copy gets loaded, whatever [23:15] mmkay [23:16] alright, that's done. [23:16] htmlol: use rmmod rt2860sta.o first [23:16] then insmod [23:16] to make sure [23:16] yep, I did [23:17] ok wpa_supplicant command is different now [23:17] one sec [23:17] actually, just try this again first: wpa_supplicant -ddd -Dwext -ira0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [23:17] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left ##slackware. [23:17] fix the interface name if you need to [23:18] mm, I just ran that; it appears to have connected to the router [23:18] sweet [23:18] no in another temrinal run dhcpcd ra0 [23:18] see if you get an IP [23:18] no/now [23:18] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [23:19] alrightey, it gave me an IP [23:19] awesome. [23:19] you're set [23:19] i bet the stock scripts will work now [23:19] wicd will probably work too [23:19] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-8-74.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:20] it doesn't seem to be resolving hosts, though :/ [23:20] what does /etc/resolv.conf look like? [23:20] can you paste me a copy of your /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf please? [23:20] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [23:21] zed_DX (n=kvirc@189.164.121.111) joined ##slackware. [23:21] harley__ (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] ooh wait never mind, now it works :) [23:21] cool deal [23:21] thanks a google antiwire! :) [23:22] you're welcome [23:23] btw, 13 will have this driver included in the stock kernel [23:23] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:24] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:24] yay lol [23:25] anyone else using urxvt/screen? [23:25] chopp: I used to. [23:25] Nick change: she_afk -> she_dyed [23:25] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [23:25] i use it [23:25] ph|ber_ (n=phiber@mail.synergies4u.com) joined ##slackware. [23:26] chopp, yes [23:27] or both [23:27] when I detach from screen, I'm left with garbage in my term from whatever was running before I detached [23:27] I get same I think [23:27] Curses be that which is windows product activation. :/ [23:28] I've tried a few supposed fix's in .screenrc but no luck yet [23:29] ph|ber (n=phiber@mail.synergies4u.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:29] chopp, well mine isn't so bad perhaps [23:29] waht about running 'clear' on detach [23:29] altscreen on, hardstatus off, and terminfo rxvt-unicode 'Co#256:AB=\E[48;5;%dm:AF=\E[38;5;%dm' [23:30] MVP (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:31] Nick change: MVP -> Guest95509 [23:31] chopp, I always run irc/screen in one maximised urxvt with decoratios off so I guess I've never really encounterd major problems [23:32] chopp, you can run 'reset' command to clear up left over garbage though. [23:32] yeps. [23:33] dive: well it's not that big a deal, just looks like crap with my term prompt in the middle of what used to be ##slackware :P [23:33] can you set it up to run 'clear' on exit? [23:34] harley__ (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:34] brb [23:34] personally, I have 'c' aliased to 'clear', and I type it all the time so it never really bothered me. [23:34] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "I'm Leaving" [23:34] htmlol, reset would be better [23:34] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [23:34] well I'm using Ctrl-a-d so I'm not sure how I'd throw clear or reset into that [23:35] and you could run screen like 'screen && reset' which would run reset after exiting/detaching screen [23:35] chopp, ^^^ works [23:35] ok dive I'll try that thanks [23:36] ooh good idea. [23:36] xray7224 (n=xray7224@81.170.1.214) joined ##slackware. [23:37] harley_ (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:37] harley_ (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [23:39] grah [23:45] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-228.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:47] dive: here is what a Ctrl-a-d looks like :P http://imagebin.org/59691 [23:48] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:48] mine is never as bad as that [23:48] well when I was using xterm neither was mine :) [23:48] chopp: wow, that looks aweful. [23:49] whats that key combo that involves sysrq which is a direct command to the kernel... [23:49] I'm waiting for mrxvt utf8 to be finished and I may switch to it [23:49] as in full awes? [23:49] fire|bird: what part of it looks like crap didn't you understand ;) [23:49] chopp: hahaha [23:49] antiwire: possibly, yeah. :P [23:50] antiwire: I've got the hdd image working now except for windows product activation. :/ [23:50] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: Success [23:50] someone posted a gig and i answered...they want youtube audio from youtube videos extracted [23:50] harley_ (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:50] into mp3 [23:50] fire|bird: you'll probably need to reactivate over the phone [23:50] antiwire: yeah, probably, but at least I got this far now. :P [23:51] antiwire: one setting in VBox was holding me up (Haven't tried this one in qemu yet) [23:51] The enable I/O APIC or something like that. [23:52] I enabled that and it took off. [23:52] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [23:53] chopp: you mean it was fine when you used xterm? [23:54] bbiab [23:54] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "leaving" [23:54] she_dyed: yes [23:54] try this cheat export TERM=xterm [23:54] heh [23:55] other side effects perhaps? :P [23:55] it might make his english display ... as english [23:55] harley_ (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [23:55] spook got answer yet? [23:56] if xterm would display unicode properly for me, I wouldn't be using urxvt [23:56] Quiznos: hmmm? [23:56] spook alt-sysrq H will provide help list or see proc/sysrq and kernel tree/Doc*/sysrq [23:56] Quiznos: ah, thanks [23:56] yw [23:57] you use other languages chopp [23:57] ? [23:57] spook pric/sys* is plain echoable file [23:57] pric/proc [23:57] she_dyed: no, just messing around once in awhile with utf-8 [23:57] suid0_ (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [23:58] where's Jane? [23:58] i had to do that export thing because mc wasn't showing plain lines but gibberish [23:58] where the frames are [23:58] she_dyed: yeah I had that same problem myself [23:58] she_dyed ooo; i never had that cept when i mess with fonts :) [23:58] mmm mc'ers [23:58] thought i was the only one [23:59] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [23:59] even terminus was bailing out on those lines [23:59] and then Matrix font came in [23:59] yay Friday's finished [23:59] I use terminus myself [00:00] --- Sat Aug 15 2009