[00:00] slackware64 steped waaay out this time [00:00] im lost' [00:00] ? [00:00] huge desktop? [00:00] cool to trip over [00:01] Of course, it's 64-bit, you MUST have at least two monitors! [00:01] yeah [00:01] and 4 gigs of RAM [00:01] man with audacity needing only libsndfile and wxGTK, i'm surprised Slackware doesn't have it in /extra [00:01] at least [00:01] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:02] so is there a wine so i can play some steam games [00:03] my little 5000 black amd does well with 2 gigs [00:03] so no wine for slack64? [00:03] yet [00:03] Do a bigigabuy [00:04] antiwire: DANG. [00:04] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:04] lol [00:04] lets play! [00:04] wine is 32-bit, it should run on Slackware64, but only as 32-bit [00:05] antiwire: alright. :) [00:05] firebird619: you down to just test; see if we can at least make the connection [00:05] Simbioz (n=simbiozz@190.196.115.141) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:05] firebird619: ok pm [00:05] sure [00:06] hey firebird619 :) how's it going? you got the effects working? [00:06] antler: yeah, had to rebuild the video drivers. [00:06] you gots da wobblies? [00:07] heh, yeah. [00:07] Guest32377 (n=xxx@201-93-242-75.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:07] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:09] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [00:10] Ekc (n=iskar@90-154-133-216.btc-net.bg) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:11] :) [00:12] rosh_ (n=roshl@e176081148.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:16] it should be ok to compile wine on 64bit, and make wine be a 64bit app [00:16] running win64 apps would require wine64 otoh and that... [00:17] not all things are 64bit friendly... [00:19] well, wine64 needs gcc 4.4 to compile correctly, that probably shows its current stage of development [00:19] vegeta (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:20] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "an amazing thing touch is" [00:21] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:22] Lexus1 (n=BastionH@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [00:23] hi:) [00:23] sopas (n=souphead@120.28.168.40) joined ##slackware. [00:23] Guest32377 (n=xxx@201-43-57-117.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:23] hi [00:24] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-130-123.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [00:25] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:27] souphead (n=souphead@120.28.168.72) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:27] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [00:28] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:30] rhys (n=rhys@cpe-65-25-100-45.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:32] sidmario_ (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:34] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) joined ##slackware. [00:36] hi [00:36] my american friends, do you know "brioches" ? [00:38] Neseth (n=neseth@wikipedia/neseth) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [00:38] who knows, what's the difference between CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE and CONFIG_CPU_IDLE kernel config options? [00:39] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@cardinal.lizella.net expired. [00:39] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@cardinal.lizella.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:39] my bet would be that CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE relates to APM and the other one to ACPI [00:39] (which means the first one is quite old) [00:40] is APM somewhat depricated? [00:40] ah, ok [00:40] you have acpi instead [00:40] i found that CONFIG_CPU_IDL wasn't set in my config [00:41] frk (n=frk@189.58.211.106.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:41] think, that's was the reason why my laptop's fan didn't turn off [00:41] afaict, it's set by default on x86* [00:41] i used custom config from my old pc [00:42] that's probably why [00:42] Nick change: frk -> freack [00:42] i don't think anyone is going to need APM if their computer was built in 2000 or later [00:42] I have CONFIG_CPU_IDLE=y (custom config) [00:42] CPU_IDLE is different [00:42] <|Slacker|> hey guys...is there a way to get rid of that "loading linux" msg at boot time,or at least make it faster? [00:42] after installing powertop i saw that cpu is always in a lower C-state [00:43] like C1 ? [00:43] in fact it never gets lower C-states [00:43] |Slacker|, put "compact" in your /etc/lilo.conf [00:43] at the top [00:43] no, even C0 [00:43] it's always in C0 [00:43] <|Slacker|> TwinReverb, right in the begining? [00:44] vdv, hahaha :p [00:44] wtf...slackboy banned cardinal* lol [00:44] dude that was rad [00:44] firebird619 and I just played coop duek nukem over the internet [00:44] no waaay [00:44] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Client Quit [00:44] yeah man [00:44] Camarade_Tux: how do you think, will CONFIG_CPU_IDLE=y solve my problem? [00:44] |Slacker|, yep [00:44] then re-run lilo [00:45] (as root) [00:45] antiwire: awsome..how'd that work? [00:45] hahaha : I think it doesn't even show APM for a 64bit arch ^^ [00:45] it was good but it just crashed. I got stuck in a door [00:45] lol [00:45] the door closed on me and i couldn't move lol [00:45] <|Slacker|> TwinReverb, thanks [00:45] vdv, probably not, I guess it needs more than one thing [00:45] firebird619 is still MIA [00:46] Camarade_Tux: and what possibly else? [00:46] nheco (n=nheco@189.74.199.203) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:46] antiwire: that link you posted is what's required? [00:46] chopp: I worked surprisingly well but I want to see how firebird619's experience was. I was the server [00:46] vdv, go into the "Power management and ACPI options" and check ;) [00:46] you'll need at least CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR [00:46] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:46] chopp: on the host I run eduke32 -net -p25000 /n0:2 [00:47] which setups a 2 player game on UDP port 25000 [00:47] then on the guest you run eduke32 -net serveriphere:25000 [00:47] Camarade_Tux: configured as a module and loads at startup [00:47] ACPI ought to be <*> ("yes") and everything in ACPI should be at least [00:47] ouch [00:48] antiwire: easy enough, but what happened to poor firebird619 lol [00:48] firebird is GONE [00:48] lol [00:48] haha [00:48] and disable APM if the machine was built after 2000 in my opinion [00:48] maybe it wasn't me that crashed [00:48] hmm [00:48] yes, i have everything under ACPI as [00:48] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: "Leaving" [00:48] either way, we went through E1 levels 1-3 in coop mode [00:48] it's fun as hell [00:48] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:49] antiwire: he has been having some major problems with his box no? [00:49] vdv, then try to compile the other one as a module, it should be possible to insert it without rebooting :) [00:49] chopp: he did, but the segfaulting and graphics issues were from upgrading Xorg and not rebuilding the nvidia driver [00:49] slKIvs (n=ivan@72.252.52.253) joined ##slackware. [00:50] antiwire: ahh, that makes sense [00:50] I hope he comes back. [00:50] lol [00:50] rhys (n=rhys@cpe-65-25-100-45.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:50] can lilo boot freebsd? [00:50] man lilo [00:51] antiwire: look out your window, see if there is smoke comin from the east [00:51] hahaha [00:51] that is so cool that it actually worked [00:52] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) joined ##slackware. [00:52] dissocialive: yes lilo easily boots freebsd. [00:52] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:52] whoever has the fastest box and pipe should be the server [00:52] antiwire: I agree. If you're around tommorow, I wouldn't mind checking that out. [00:52] yeah we will [00:52] cool [00:53] I want ot try with 3 players too [00:54] the funniest thing to do is the arena with 10 people [00:54] the final map, the football field [00:54] lol [00:54] so we'd be a team, or how does that work? Or ok mf, you're goin down [00:55] there are a few modes, DM, COOP, and team's iirc [00:55] coop is like room clearing. you can work together to go through the levels [00:55] DM is kill anything that moves [00:55] do you know any program to make nice UML diagrams ? [00:56] antiwire: lol omg I'm going to die! [00:56] lol [00:56] stealth- (n=stealth@unaffiliated/stealth-) joined ##slackware. [00:56] chopp: http://uploading.com/files/CQSCG6BC/demo1.dmo.html [00:56] download that demo i took of me playing [00:56] just throw it into ~/.eduke32 and start the game [00:56] it will play the demo [00:56] antiwire: yup I got that allready [00:56] aH [00:57] we should test it with as many people as possible. whoever is online at the time [00:57] oh a demo, I thought that was for the network stuff..ok [00:57] um.. does anyone else but me have an issue with gzine poping up *every* time someone sends an IM through facebook. [00:57] Action: Camarade_Tux can join the duke nukem party ;) [00:57] no, i guess because i uninstall it because it's very annoying [00:57] Camarade_Tux: YEs! [00:57] facebook ftl [00:58] stealth-, any media player plugin ? [00:58] i've almost never had gxine respond properly to websites, almost always breaking at least once in a day, so i just uninstalled it and i've been happy ever since [00:58] Camarade_Tux: media play plugin? I dont think so. [00:58] lol [00:58] me, chopp, Urchlay, firebird, Camarade_Tux [00:58] in a DM [00:58] lol [00:59] duke death match mayhem. sunday sunday sunday! [00:59] for sure [00:59] stealth-, in ff, in the menubar, Tools->Add-ons, what do you have there ? [01:00] by listening to firebird619, I won't be the only one laughed at anyway :P [01:01] on a big enough map for 5 people with respawn allowed, DM is fun [01:01] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [01:02] I'll have to practice more ;) [01:02] and get used to steroids :p [01:02] Camarade_Tux: found it :) Thanks, I was just about to remove it. [01:02] antiwire: brb..going to watch your demo [01:02] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:02] hmm firebird619 is a goner [01:02] haha [01:02] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:02] firebird619: what happened on your end [01:02] I got stuck in a door that closed on me [01:02] yeah, my internet connection crapped out again. [01:02] dang [01:03] I know. [01:03] that was alot of fun [01:03] firebird619: how was game play though? [01:03] pretty cool? [01:03] it was great. [01:03] nice! [01:03] stealth-, :) [01:04] firebird619: with two people on coop mode you can really rip through levels [01:04] yeah, that was really cool. Sorry for killing you that one time. :P [01:04] i don't think you killed me though [01:04] I got jacked by monsters [01:05] I thought I did. I had just shot that monster and then you fell to the ground. [01:05] shot at the monster [01:05] lol [01:05] then I thought "Oh crap, I killed him" [01:05] I think I had teamkill disabled [01:05] Ah, ok. [01:06] midnight_sun (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [01:06] the best thing for us to do is just load up a map without monsters and take a few minutes to fix up our controls [01:06] It seemed to me that my keymaps in multiplayer were wrong [01:07] I forget that I can use shift to run, you were blazing by me at times. [01:07] Let's not ARGUE and BICKER about WHO killed WHO. This is supposed to be a HAPPY occasion! [01:07] you should enable always run [01:07] hahaha [01:07] yeah, always run :) [01:07] Nick change: midnight_sun -> vegeta [01:07] antiwire: I didn't know I could. :P [01:07] then take your steroids and fly ! [01:07] the best is jetpack RPG fights [01:07] lol [01:07] hahaha :p [01:08] with steroids, you just can't aim your jumps, you always jump too far >< [01:08] Camarade_Tux: I did take those pills once, but I did not have relations with that monster. [01:08] thanks to Urchlay we're never going to get anything done now [01:08] haha [01:08] JosephK (n=Light@219.sub-75-197-253.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [01:08] firebird619, hahaha ! :p [01:08] Anyone here have an example of an smbmount command?? [01:08] I am connecting my linux server to a windows server 2003 box [01:09] eeeeyuck [01:09] But I gotta [01:09] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:09] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:09] antiwire: hmm your demo isn't working for some reason [01:09] dang [01:09] firebird619: hey :) [01:09] chopp: oh wait are you using the latest SBo version? [01:09] that's another thing, we all have to be on the latest version [01:09] latest ? hmmm, /me upgrages [01:09] *upgrades [01:10] Then, I went back to the effects, it messed up, so I deleted the .kde directory, forgot that's where mail is stored, and now I'm digging through the trash to transfer stuff back and getting permission denied errors. :( [01:10] Hey chopp [01:10] k, bbiab guys. [01:10] antiwire: thanks, that was alot of fun. Maybe we can try again sometime when my connection isn't as crappy as it was today. [01:10] firebird619: heck yeah [01:10] don't think I am actually. I got it from him before it was uploaded to SBo, and hey might have changed it since then. [01:11] 20090313 [01:11] /s/hey/he [01:12] firebird619, pwned ! =) [01:12] I also don't know if we all have to be using the official textures or shareware textures. [01:12] I use the official ones. firebird619, what did you have going? [01:12] antiwire: yup thats what my slackbuild says anyway [01:12] the hires pack will be a long download =/ [01:13] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.33.72) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:13] chopp: hmm maybe we should just try to connect and see if it works [01:13] allright [01:14] one sec [01:14] Action: Camarade_Tux is installpkg'ing eduke32 [01:14] nicer, the hrp downloads much faster than last time, done in 4 minutes :) [01:14] ok, so what happens is: you connect and I (the server) controls the game start so you just have to wait [01:15] ok [01:18] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]" [01:21] I wonder if it's legal to post the official grps yet [01:21] probably not [01:21] probably not [01:22] I wonder where you could buy it though [01:22] music and hrp downloaded :) [01:23] Camarade_Tux: do you have the official grps or are you going to use the shareware? [01:23] I have the official one, why ? [01:23] I wonder how shareware people mixing with official grp people will affect multiplayer. We'll just have to test. [01:24] it will probably mean we can only play the first episode maps [01:25] it seems we can select which grp to use at runtime :) [01:26] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-43-166.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:28] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [01:31] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:32] root_op (n=pontus@81-233-17-9-no30.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [01:32] tooly (n=theo@e178148029.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [01:32] Hey folks, got a problem [01:32] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.14.10) joined ##slackware. [01:32] back for a little bit. [01:32] Can't seem to get my mouse + keyboard to work in X11 [01:33] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [01:33] Working with Slim LM and Awesome WM but the keyboard just won't work! [01:33] Anybody encountered something similar? [01:34] Oh thank gosh. It looks like I got all my mail back. :P [01:34] rworkman (n=rworkman@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [01:34] heh [01:34] firebird619, that's a releaf [01:34] =) [01:35] Action: init[1] waves to every one in channel! [01:35] Action: root_op waves back to init[1] [01:35] Action: rworkman particles [01:35] and beer [01:35] lots of it [01:35] antiwire: man that was so much fun. :) [01:35] _juan (n=juan@200.84.127.58) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:35] Hey rworkman [01:35] Yes please [01:35] firebird619: totally [01:35] hey rworkman [01:35] Mmmh beer [01:35] firebird619: hey could you do something as a test really quick please? [01:35] Action: root_op drools [01:35] antiwire: sure [01:35] heya root_op ! ! [01:35] Greetings from Clemson SC. Just got back in the hotel from the after-party at the bar across the street from the hotel [01:36] (Southeast LinuxFest) [01:36] Hmm, now I get permission denied with kontact. argh. I fail. :( [01:36] Heya Single User! [01:36] yet all the mail is there. :) [01:36] firebird619: what does this sum out for you? md5sum /usr/share/games/eduke32/duke3d.grp [01:36] Actually my poison tonight was mostly Crown and Coke. I did have a few Guinness Stouts first though. [01:36] init[1] i meant ;) [01:36] root_op: you were able to make out my name ! [01:36] antiwire: 981125cb9237c19aa0237109958d2b50 [01:36] Yeah, not to difficult :P [01:37] GAH! [01:37] firebird619: thanks [01:37] yw [01:37] :) [01:37] Correct me if i'm wrong, but it's HAL that configures and sets upp the devices in X11 right? [01:37] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.34.111) joined ##slackware. [01:37] Like keyboard etc? [01:38] rworkman: you and the rest from cardinal pissed off slackboy I see. :P [01:38] Yeah. I guess he doesn't like it when we drink. [01:38] haha [01:38] lol [01:38] (as me, Alan_Hicks, XGizzmo, and vbatts are all here and pretty much tore out of the frame) [01:39] cool. How'd the events go today? [01:39] Nick change: vegeta -> vegeta[off] [01:39] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.14.10) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:40] TLinton_ (n=TLinton_@ip98-165-98-57.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:40] mine is same as firebird619's [01:40] Anyone else here on kde4 and using kontact? Could you tell me what the perms should be for .kde/share/config/kontactrc please? [01:40] rworkman, http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/tktview?tn=3555 I take it ncurses isn't linked in slackware? [01:41] Action: Camarade_Tux goes back to duke nukem [01:41] linked with -ldl that is [01:41] chopp: very well. Around 400 people in attendance for our first year! [01:42] great :) [01:42] juice: we added that to the pkconfig file to (we thought) fix it [01:43] Nevermind people, installing xf86-input-evdev reeeeally helped, guess that's what you get for installing slackware 6am in the morning!^^ [01:43] this bug is experienced when compiling libsndfile but can be fixed by adding LDFLAGS="-ldl" or alienBOB made one also that works because it has LDFLAGS="$SLKLDFLAGS" \ [01:43] ouch ! [01:43] juice: ping me again on this later -- I *will* forget. [01:43] rworkman, okay this was tried on 12.2 so maybe fixed in current [01:44] okay can do [01:45] antiwire: you're on current right now, correct? Could you do an "ls -l ~/.kde/share/config/kontactrc" and let me know what the perms are on it? [01:45] muzz2k (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [01:46] firebird619: I don't have kontactrc but this is: drwx------ 5 xxx users 4096 2009-06-13 22:13 /home/xxx/.kde/share/config// [01:46] antiwire: ok, thanks. [01:47] Hmm, drwx------ 3 fbird users 4096 2009-06-14 00:39 /home/fbird/.kde/share/config// [01:48] I think I got it figured out here. [01:48] emailed the maintainer of the build also he said he will fix it upo tomorrow [01:49] juice: still issues with libsndfile? [01:49] Camarade_Tux: you there? [01:49] yeah was seeing if it can get fixed all around [01:49] it's a sqlite problem or ncurses [01:50] Camarade_Tux: would you mind trying to connect to me as a test? for duke nukem [01:50] juice: Hmm, good luck with it. [01:50] sqlite assumes ncurses is linked with "-ldl" so if not you have to pass LDFLAGS="-ldl" [01:50] There, all fixed. [01:51] antiwire: I went by the other rc files in there. I just needed to chmod +w. :) [01:51] firebird619: chopp can't connect to me. it says wrong versions [01:51] Hmm, that's strange. [01:52] and you've both checked that you're on the same version? I'm sure you have. :) [01:52] yeah [01:52] antiwire: Should I try and connect and see if I can still connect? [01:52] sure let's try [01:52] k [01:53] antiwire: same address as before? [01:53] yep [01:53] k [01:53] doom3 runs great in linux [01:55] antiwire, there [01:55] Action: Camarade_Tux doesn't have the address [01:56] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.34.111) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:57] Camarade_Tux: see if antiwire will give it to you. :P [01:57] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.13.44) joined ##slackware. [01:58] lol [01:58] ok [01:58] let's try for 3 [01:58] antiwire: what happened to you? you died? [01:59] nah i killed it [01:59] few mins [01:59] ah, ok. [01:59] let's see what's up with chop [01:59] It came up and said antiwire is history. :P [01:59] Camarade_Tux: pm? [01:59] http://www.rebelideas.co.uk/games/hothstrike/ <- but why do they make javascript games ! [01:59] I was going around getting all the weapons I could that time. [01:59] ok guys [01:59] antiwire, no >< [02:00] Camarade_Tux: let's you and me test 1v1 first [02:00] just to see if it works [02:00] go for it [02:01] juice: is doom3 a free download? I have been wanting to try it out. [02:01] y0 dtanner. How's it going? [02:01] sup my man firebird619? [02:01] ges good here [02:01] goes* [02:02] goin good here too. [02:02] firebird619: what game are you playing? [02:02] slKIvs (n=ivan@72.252.52.253) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:02] duke nukem 3d [02:02] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:02] i might as well install it too [02:03] except my gaming mouse "logitech mx-700" is in storage [02:03] dtanner: btw, I've upgraded to -current. I'll be testing the stuff on the guide and what's broken and what the ways to fix them will be. I think it's a good idea seeing as how it feels like slack 13 is getting ever closer. [02:03] dtanner, not sure the linux part is free [02:03] i could get by with this mouse for now though [02:04] Do you have a duke3d game disc? [02:04] need the disc for the .pak files though [02:04] juice: you have purchased the cd ? [02:04] has anyone ran kylin? [02:04] juice: you can also use the shareware pack on SBo, but you're limited with it. [02:04] ph yeah [02:04] there is the demo pack [02:05] firebird619: I don't have the cd for doom3 or duke3d. [02:05] slKIvs (n=ivan@72.252.52.253) joined ##slackware. [02:05] dtanner, a friend did [02:05] would it be the windows cd that i need , or is there an linux version cd i need ? [02:05] for both games, doom3 and duke3d [02:05] windows [02:05] figures [02:05] for duke3d [02:05] I had it from many years ago. [02:06] yeah i have SOF and q3a and a couple fo others that i purchased a few years back [02:06] id3 [02:06] dtanner: have any used video game stores or anything there in TX? [02:06] might could find one for cheap. [02:06] yup [02:06] or ebay [02:07] kylin? [02:07] i dont do ebay [02:07] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.13.44) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:07] dartmouth: we've seen your question, give it time for someone whose maybe used it to come around and help. [02:07] got ripped off for 1000.00 USD the FIRST time i ever used it. so never again. talk about bad luck. [02:07] ouch [02:07] that sucks [02:07] and patpal or ebay did not give a rats ass [02:08] paypal* [02:08] i filed all the paperwork and forms and proper ways to recover my losses and they said there was nothing they could do about it and din't even BAN the guy form ebay ! [02:08] that ruined it for me forever [02:08] yeah, usually it's better to use paypal + credit card, you have a better chance getting your money back with the cc company. [02:10] I need to go to my storage room and get the rest of my puter stuff out including my gamin cds [02:10] i have UT2004 all 6 original cds too [02:10] good idea. :) [02:11] and my mx-700 mouse [02:11] Camarade_Tux: lol [02:11] i love that mouse [02:11] Camarade_Tux: that was crazy [02:11] antiwire, yeah :P [02:12] Camarade_Tux raped me [02:12] dry? [02:12] wow [02:12] he stuck an ice cube up my butt and kicked me in the head [02:12] haha [02:12] haha [02:12] then the ice cube melted [02:12] I never thought I could manage that [02:12] Camarade_Tux: was it a little laggy for you? [02:12] plus the first time, I failed kicking you ;) [02:12] I'm hovering above that football field right now. :) [02:12] when firebird619 and I played it was super smooth [02:12] i thought about buying orange box [02:12] 30 bucks for 5 games [02:13] http://store.steampowered.com/sub/469/ [02:13] antiwire, it lagged a little bit a few times [02:13] like when i shot the blimp [02:13] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:13] haha [02:13] firebird619: are you playing in window mode? [02:13] how can you change just the file completion year [02:13] yeah [02:13] antiwire, and was I lagging ? [02:14] Camarade_Tux: just a bit [02:14] juice: looks like a good deal for the price on the orange box set [02:14] nice then :) [02:14] like you can change the timestamp with touch but it seems you have to change month days hours min etc [02:15] antiwire: how do you invoke that football field monster? [02:15] firebird619: gotta restart the map [02:15] muzz2k (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [02:15] Ah, I see. [02:15] we killed him [02:15] lol [02:15] haha, ok. [02:15] the arena is total mayhem [02:15] dtanner, i have utk3 but the sound won't work [02:16] hey in window mode I can't use my mouse in X at all [02:16] it has in the past but not with this install [02:16] the window takes over everything and I can't operate X until i exit the game [02:16] antiwire: did ya hit the backtick? [02:16] fsck you guys are pissing me off ;) [02:16] chopp: haha [02:16] it seems dumb to run it in wine or cedega since it runs in linux [02:16] haha man [02:16] but if I want sound might have too [02:16] antiwire: esc then the backtick [02:16] omfg [02:16] awesome! [02:16] thanks [02:17] yw [02:17] dtanner, also openarena is free [02:17] we could all play it [02:18] chopp: the only thing I can figure think to do is totally remove eduke32 and the HRP, rebuild it, and installpkg instead of upgradepkg [02:18] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:18] sounds a but excessive though [02:18] chopp: you fail. :P [02:18] btw, it seems the machine gun or whatever it is called (weapon 4) is completely ineffective at high ranges if the ennemy is moving a bit [02:18] Camarade_Tux: yeah [02:19] Camarade_Tux firebird619 should i try to start a 3 person server? [02:19] muzz2k (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [02:19] lets test it [02:19] sure [02:19] ok waiting [02:19] A bit of a teaser pic: http://slackware.com/~rworkman/rw_rockhopper.jpg <-- the manager let me put the Slackware sticker on their penguin case, so I had to get a pic with it. [02:19] Nick change: Guest32377 -> sidmario [02:19] nice rworkman [02:20] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.9.22) joined ##slackware. [02:20] waiting for Camarade_Tux [02:20] rworkman :) [02:20] Camarade_Tux: OGOGOG [02:20] Camarade_Tux: hurry up, what ya waiting for? [02:20] :P [02:20] rworkman: that's awesome. [02:20] hmm, game stuck [02:20] yep [02:21] stuck here too [02:21] let me kill and re start [02:21] I get, network: Waiting for server to launch game [02:21] same address ? [02:21] dtanner, also have you tried tremulous? [02:21] k go [02:21] yeah [02:21] Hmm, the incoming messages kde4 widget isn't seeing kontact. :( [02:22] this is wack. restart again [02:22] it froze this time [02:22] gah, maybe my fault [02:22] k, there. [02:22] it's closed here [02:23] k [02:23] You cannot play Duke with different versions! [02:23] lol [02:23] that was chopp [02:23] hahaha [02:23] lol [02:23] grr [02:23] haha :P [02:23] arr [02:23] chopp: you're the odd man out. :P [02:23] ok ready again [02:24] player 3 lags [02:24] you lagger [02:24] Mine sits at Player 0 is ready. [02:24] what is the beginning of his ip ? [02:24] why doesn't foobillard put the cue ball back on the table when you scratch? [02:24] 173 [02:24] (player 3) [02:24] probably not me then [02:24] it has always done that to me [02:24] what you guys playing?! [02:24] duke3d [02:24] dtanner, http://whdb.com/2008/top-25-linux-games-for-2008/ [02:25] player 1 and 2 are ready in the server console [02:25] this is wack [02:25] antiwire: this doesn't work quite as effectively. :) [02:25] chopp: you done rebuilding yet? :P [02:25] juice: thanks, i am looking at -> http://linuxgames07.blogspot.com/2007/09/top-21-linux-games-of-2007.html also [02:25] stuck at "player 0 ready" and the ui froze [02:25] okay [02:25] killed it [02:25] antiwire, your server still working ? [02:25] firebird619: second time yup [02:25] Camarade_Tux: yeah it was [02:26] chopp: so it's all rebuilt now? [02:26] someone try again for 1v1 [02:26] actually the game was still alive since it told me when you stopped the server [02:26] antiwire, trying [02:26] well, working [02:27] anyone here play foobillard much? [02:27] I don't [02:27] I've tried it in the past though [02:28] the damn cue ball disappears from the current table forever when you scratch! [02:28] antiwire, laggy [02:28] yeah [02:28] Camarade_Tux: you're in Europe? [02:28] heh, the incoming messages widget just isn't working at all. It is't seeing anything. [02:28] he's in France [02:28] antiwire, yeah =/ [02:28] Camarade_Tux: the console told me it lost sync [02:28] darn [02:29] firebird619: how many cd's are needed to install duke3d? [02:29] just one [02:29] you have a fast connection? =) [02:29] duke3d.grp : 26M [02:29] you need one file off that disc to transfer to eduke32 from SBo. [02:30] dtanner, it's somehow shared here so it sometimes lags [02:30] well then dcc me that file man! [02:30] (it's 8am here so people could be waking up) [02:32] same thing chopp [02:32] I don't get it at all [02:33] damn, deleted .eduke32, rebuilt, and same crap [02:33] chopp: during the build, does the patch cleanly apply [02:33] output of eduke32 --help | head -n 1 ? [02:34] chopp: try repulling the SBo build archive [02:34] one version if it was jacked and the package would build without the patch applying [02:34] antiwire: I've repulled it every time [02:34] man. [02:34] this is sucky [02:34] EDuke32 1.5.0devel 20090313 [02:34] EDuke32 1.5.0devel 2009031 here [02:34] yeah [02:35] hey! [02:35] 31? [02:35] EDuke32 1.5.0devel 20090313 [02:35] TLinton_ (n=TLinton_@ip98-165-98-57.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:35] strange [02:35] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@CPE-58-165-93-206.qld.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:35] 64bit ? [02:35] yup [02:35] 32bit here [02:36] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [02:36] 64 here [02:36] so 64 and 32 seem to work [02:36] yeah [02:36] this just doesn't make a lick of sense [02:37] antiwire, chopp, this works between you two ? [02:37] no [02:37] stealth- (n=stealth@unaffiliated/stealth-) left irc: "leaving" [02:37] Camarade_Tux: works between you me and firebird619 but chopp can't connect to me [02:37] I guess I can't be reached from the outside, chopp would you try creating ? [02:38] I just forward port 25000UDP [02:38] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060214]" [02:38] easy to remember ;) [02:38] Camarade_Tux: what does this give you? md5sum /usr/share/games/eduke32/duke3d.grp [02:38] just curious [02:38] but I don't control the gateway here =/ [02:38] for me and firebird619 981125cb9237c19aa0237109958d2b50 /usr/share/games/eduke32/duke3d.grp [02:39] 981125cb9237c19aa0237109958d2b50 [02:39] ok [02:39] Camarade_Tux: you mean setting up the server on this end? [02:39] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [02:39] chopp, yeah [02:39] 981125cb9237c19aa0237109958d2b50 duke3d.grp [02:40] Camarade_Tux: not tonight. Tomorrow maybe [02:40] chopp, ok :) [02:41] i wish >2 player worked [02:42] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429505.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:43] how do you create a net game ? [02:43] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Client Quit [02:44] host: Host: eduke32 -net -p25000 /n0:2 [02:44] the :2 is the # of players [02:44] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [02:44] LAN play is rad [02:44] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@CPE-58-165-93-206.qld.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [02:45] no lag [02:45] and I had lan play between windows and linux systems working too [02:46] I saw a thread mentionning you have to disable vsync [02:47] in xorg.conf? [02:47] in duke3d config [02:49] Ekc (n=iskar@90-154-130-52.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [02:50] zxz (n=zeroXzer@59.93.13.208) joined ##slackware. [02:50] f4l doesn't build on slackware? [02:51] [off topic] can you suggest good software for learning touch typing ? [02:51] init[1]: ktouch ...lol [02:52] antiwire: does it depend on kdelibs or qt? [02:52] yes and yes [02:52] as kchm can work with both [02:53] not sure [02:54] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/14585 [02:54] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.95.102) joined ##slackware. [02:54] thank you ! thing is im not using kde :) [02:54] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.9.22) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:55] moocowmoo (n=moo@cpe-66-8-167-49.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:55] duke nukem, 6USD [02:55] http://www.buy3drealms.com/ [02:55] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-83.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [02:55] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-165-97.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:56] wtf ! for wolfenstein 3d : "Due to the game content, this game may not be ordered by residents of Germany." [02:56] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:56] lol [02:57] Camarade_Tux: it's illegal there because of the nazi themes [02:57] you mean music ? [02:57] nah the likenesses [02:58] it was all about nazi stuff [02:58] well, we have similar laws in France against nazi stuff but I don't see it being forbidden =/ [02:58] it's just illegal in DE [02:58] and well, you *kill* nazis [02:58] lol [02:58] grazymax (n=grazymax@host183-167-dynamic.27-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:00] keoni (n=chadh@208-106-15-141.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:00] wolf 3d was the first computer I played [03:00] evarrr [03:01] then came the dooms and then duke [03:01] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:03] keoni (n=chadh@208-106-15-141.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) joined ##slackware. [03:04] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:04] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:05] my first game was probably minesweeper on windows 3.1x ;) [03:05] lol [03:05] yeah [03:05] I mean cool game i guess [03:05] he, I was 6 or so [03:06] I went to a dude's house who had a 486 and he goes "don't tell your mom about this game" [03:06] and fires up wolf3d [03:06] I looked like this 0_0 [03:06] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:07] zxz (n=zeroXzer@59.93.13.208) left irc: Connection reset by peer [03:07] haha :P [03:08] my first game was duke nukem [03:08] I think I was like...12 [03:08] I threw money at a stripper, and she flashed me [03:08] my first game was nibbles in dos [03:08] in dos in qbasic [03:08] redtricycle: hehe [03:09] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:09] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:19] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [03:19] Nick change: firebird_619 -> firebird619 [03:19] ^^ [03:19] Camarade_Tux: all is good now [03:20] Kontact just keeps receiving the same message, over and over. [03:20] i see how it is working Camarade_Tux , it is all good [03:20] is it normal to not be able to move to another window when the game is running ? [03:20] i am not in fullscreen [03:21] dtanner: duke3d? [03:21] yeah [03:21] dtanner: esc then the backtick key [03:22] thanks [03:22] who is hosting the game ? [03:22] yw [03:22] nobody right now afaik [03:22] keoni (n=chadh@208-106-15-141.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:22] been a long time since i played games [03:22] youshould all have fun fraggin my arse [03:23] keoni (n=chadh@208-106-15-141.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) joined ##slackware. [03:23] It had been a long time since I played duke3d [03:23] i am downloading the mus pak and the highres pack right now [03:23] proof slackware is better than debian : debian does not have eduke32 in its repos -_- [03:23] i thought about trying debian once [03:24] then i said , why? [03:24] dtanner: the hrp is essential. makes a huge difference. [03:24] makes a huge difference in space too ;) [03:24] s/space/size/ [03:25] eh, space is cheap. :) [03:25] I had 1.5GB more free space on / this morning ;) [03:25] just from the hrp? [03:26] I think so [03:26] hahaha [03:26] 400MB download [03:26] well, as the saying goes, size does matter. :P [03:26] 40MM in /tmp for the package [03:26] vegeta[off] (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [03:27] on friday I told a girl that mine was bigger than hers [03:27] lol, and her response? [03:27] speaking of our rulers of course, but she agreed ^^ [03:27] oh, rulers, uh huh. :P [03:27] i can't open the EXIT doors in la meltdown first section [03:27] press E [03:27] thansk again [03:27] and she went on with something that wouldn't apply to a ruler... [03:27] damn i am lagging a little bit [03:28] dtanner, it polls the cpu to death so it's always running at 100% usage [03:28] yeah i see that [03:29] damn i better check my hdd space [03:29] still, it's more efficient than firefox -_- [03:29] It's a ton of fun though. [03:29] Ficthe (n=roee@unaffiliated/ficthe) joined ##slackware. [03:29] i am running low lately [03:29] Camarade_Tux: haha, anything is more efficient than FF. :P [03:30] I keep seeing in my dmesg: wlan0: RX deauthentication from [ip mac address] (reason=7) - any idea what 'reason 7' would be? [03:33] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.95.102) left irc: "Leaving" [03:35] shonudo (n=user@c-76-113-6-156.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:36] JosephK (n=Light@219.sub-75-197-253.myvzw.com) left irc: "Ciao" [03:37] Ficthe, saw some references to it on the internetz but no answer [03:37] Ficthe, do you get anything else before that in dmesg ? [03:37] I'll paste it in pastebin, sec [03:39] http://pastebin.com/m59458865 [03:40] sorry, I should have stated some more details: I'm not at all sure what goes on under the hood, but very randomly I just lose the connection - until I type "iwconfig wlan0 linksys" to regain it [03:40] also, even though I get approximately 7 mega bits down on other computers, I get 1 mega bit down on this one [03:40] (I had just learned to live with that.. but it's a hassle so I thought I'd look into) [03:41] Ficthe, which card/driver ? [03:41] acidchild (n=acid@209.146.233.10) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:41] acidchild (n=acid@209.146.233.10) joined ##slackware. [03:41] Camarade_Tux, I'm sorry, I'm not sure - can you tell a command I can pass to find out? [03:42] Ficthe, actually I have no idea how to check quickly. which hardware ? [03:43] how do i flick a light switch in duke3d ? [03:43] press e [03:43] the e again , thank you [03:43] i like this game so far [03:43] dtanner: whatever you've set for 'open' [03:43] yeah, e is pretty much the action key, lights, doors, etc. [03:43] haven't set anything yet antiwire , first time playing it =0 [03:43] e is the default. [03:43] muahaha [03:44] fresh meat [03:44] i am a n00b duke [03:44] antiwire: easy pickens. :P [03:44] keel me [03:44] Camarade_Tux, http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01409558&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&product=3708937&lang=en [03:44] "hahaha, you can't keel me. Oh, wait, how'd you keel me?" :P [03:44] firebird619, you forgot to mention the most important ! hands money to chicks :) [03:44] haha, yeah. [03:45] Camarade_Tux: Now there's where you really see the difference HRP makes. :P [03:45] damn i cant figure out any keys , how to unpause , i tried spacebar and p and e [03:45] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:45] dtanner: Esc [03:45] it takes me back to menu [03:45] backtick [03:46] Ficthe, gah, doesn't give the name : try 'lspci |grep -i net' [03:46] sometimes that happens to me where it won't work. so I have to hit escape, backtick, etc. a few times. [03:46] firebird619, yeah, exactly ! [03:46] Camarade_Tux, 00:0f.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation MCP73 Ethernet (rev a2) [03:46] I've noticed one stripper still in low-def though ='( [03:46] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:46] Ficthe, no other one ? [03:46] Camarade_Tux, nope [03:46] Camarade_Tux: oh noes, a low res stripper. [03:46] try running only 'lspci' then [03:47] firebird619, that was awful ! I had to turn to the two other ones :D [03:47] hahaha [03:48] you always want to give the cash to the high quality stripper. :P [03:48] small question - how can I directly put output of something to clipboard in shell? I guess something like "lspci > cliboard" or so? any idea? [03:48] hehe, true :p [03:48] and I was exposed to duke nukem when I was like 8 :D [03:48] Nick change: artv61 -> cobra2 [03:48] because I can only seem to select in my term what's visible to screen [03:48] Ficthe, just select it with the mouse if you're in X [03:48] Nick change: cobra2 -> artv61 [03:48] expand the term ? :D [03:48] if I scroll up the buffer, I lose focus of what's run past [03:49] Camarade_Tux: I wasn't that young when I first played duke, but I wasn't all that old, either. [03:49] cheap tricks! but okay, I'll go ahead and do that :) [03:49] Ficthe, > lets you redirect to a file, that should do it [03:49] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [03:49] Camarade_Tux, that doesn't do me any good.. I want to put it in the X clipboard or something.. so i can convieniently go to pastebin and middle-click [03:50] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) left irc: Client Quit [03:50] brian_ (n=brian@ip72-204-125-6.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:50] Ficthe: which terminal do you use? [03:51] hmmm.... xclipboard [03:51] Camarade_Tux, http://pastebin.com/m8b34d19 [03:51] firebird619, urxvt [03:51] I use konsole, so I just highlight, copy and paste. :P [03:51] firebird619, but isn't it so that when you can only select what's visible instantaneously on the screen? [03:52] i.e., when you scroll, the select becomes whatever is on the screen [03:52] Slaxxer (n=brian@ip72-204-125-6.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:52] no, it scrolls with the mouse as it highlights. [03:52] keoni (n=chadh@208-106-15-141.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:53] I guess this is urxvt-specific behavior then [03:53] Action: Ficthe tries xterm [03:53] xterm doesn't scroll either [03:53] at least mine as it is configured [03:53] yeah, neither here [03:53] nope, doesn't here either. [03:54] another terminal I really like is sakura. It's on SBo. [03:54] or just pipe to vim and ggVG"*y :) [03:54] moocowmoo (n=moo@cpe-66-8-167-49.hawaii.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [03:55] sakura looks nice [03:55] damn..I lost all my saved eduke32 games :P [03:55] http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/xclip-linux-insert-files-command-output-intoclipboard/ - there seems to be a utility called 'xclip' that does this [03:57] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:57] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [03:57] cool game [03:57] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:58] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [03:58] dtanner: yeah Urchlay got me hooked on this damn game too [03:58] YES!!! I just installed it and it works beautifully -- it's in SBo [03:58] lspci | xclip [03:59] let's all kill Urchlay, he's making us waste our time ! [03:59] haha [04:00] well.. it works when non-root, when root, this happens : bash-3.1# lspci | xclip \n No protocol specified \n Error: Can't open display: :0.0 [04:00] Action: Camarade_Tux just checked Ficthe's lspci, no wifi card he haz [04:00] I'm probably doing something silly, any ideas? [04:00] Camarade_Tux, I think it's an onboard one [04:00] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-429505.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:01] muzz2k (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:02] slKIvs (n=ivan@72.252.52.253) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:02] ha, usb [04:02] cacao74 (n=cacao74@host-84-220-163-188.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [04:02] Ficthe, 'lsusb' ? [04:03] antiwire: even in window mode it grabs my mouse. Maybe because of my nvidia twinview? [04:03] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders why somebody made an internal usb wireless netword card [04:03] chopp, it will always do that afaict [04:03] chopp: does hitting the back tick tilde key release it? [04:03] Camarade_Tux, http://pastebin.com/m5e172b0 [04:04] cacao74 (n=cacao74@host-84-220-163-188.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) left ##slackware. [04:04] antiwire: yup back tick works :) [04:04] Ficthe, only those lines ? [04:04] chopp: nice [04:04] Camarade_Tux, yessir [04:04] try running "lsmod" then [04:05] Camarade_Tux, sorry to annoy you about this, but any idea why xclip works okay, but this happens when root: bash-3.1# lsmod | xclip \n No protocol specified \n Error: Can't open display: :0.0 [04:06] Camarade_Tux, anyway, here: http://pastebin.com/m4a39c062 [04:06] rt73 \o/ [04:06] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("()"). [04:07] (no, that's only because we finally know) [04:07] Ficthe, xclip problem from a fresh terminal ? [04:08] I'm sorry? I'm not sure I understand. xclip only works when non-root, is the problem [04:09] Ficthe, which kernel are you running ? [04:09] Linux sea 2.6.24.5-smp #2 SMP Wed Apr 30 13:41:38 CDT 2008 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2200 @ 2.20GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [04:09] Ficthe, I don't know for xclip, or rather I know there is a known reason, but which I don't know [04:09] Ficthe, seems you have a kernel that is too old to get ok support for your card [04:10] oh gawd, this means I have to recompile my kernel? *grulp* [04:10] okay :) it's summer vacation, I'll give it a shot [04:10] or you can upgrade to -current :D [04:10] (or at least to its kernel) [04:11] I hope then that the documentation for a novice is abundant [04:11] hmmm, I remember pat mentionning 12.1's udev would probably be too old for a 2.6.29 kernel [04:12] s/I remember/I seem to remember/ [04:12] Ficthe, feel like upgrading the system to -current ? ;p [04:12] Camarade_Tux, sure, why not [04:15] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:15] Ficthe, read the "feature story" at http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090518&mode=68 [04:17] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [04:17] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430582.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:18] Camarade_Tux, and this should work on this 12.1 machine hopefully without problems? [04:21] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-80-5.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:21] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: "42" [04:23] Thom1 (n=Thom1@75.118.87-79.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.2" [04:24] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-80-5.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:24] it should but I don't want to be held responsible for any problem that may occur :D [04:27] stealth- (n=root@66.183.233.184) joined ##slackware. [04:28] im trying to set up cups graphically, but when I try to set it up as a root user there is no drivers shown, but when I try it as a normal user it requests a password, and niether my root account or my normal account will work. Any ideas? [04:28] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:30] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Computer has gone to sleep" [04:30] yeah, finished frozen bubble ! [04:31] 'gratz ;) [04:33] Thom1 (n=Thom1@75.118.87-79.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [04:35] man I hate linux printing :( The night before a job interview and a resume wont print, lol. [04:36] stealth-: haha. printing always seems to work well for me. I have issues now and then, but not any block buster issues. [04:36] stealth-, pdf it ? [04:36] Action: firebird619 pokes Camarade_Tux. Look at me, I'm still up and online. :D [04:36] stealth-, yeah, make a pdf, email it to firebird619 and he'll mail you the printed version :) [04:36] haha [04:37] firebird619: I think its cause there is no actual driver for my printer, and lexmark sucks on top of that [04:37] firebird619, not sleepy yet ? :) [04:37] firebird619, remember I woke up at 5:30 am, by myself ;) [04:37] Camarade_Tux: heh, too bad I need it for *tomorrow* [04:37] stealth-, mail it to your closet officemax/kinkos [04:37] there are many such services [04:37] stealth-, I'm sure firebird619 will pay for express shipping :P [04:37] kinkos is open 24/7 [04:37] Camarade_Tux: nah, not sleepy. It won't be long before I go to bed though. If I waited until I was sleepy, I'd never sleep. :P [04:37] firebird619, haha [04:37] Ficthe: kinkos? [04:38] http://www.fedex.com/us/office/ [04:38] stealth-, are you in the US? [04:38] actually, not really tomorrow, but 58 hours [04:38] Ficthe: no [04:38] I mean *8 hours, lol [04:38] stealth-, bummer. :( [04:38] you are in the US? well, go to kinkos and get it printed there [04:38] the bad part for me is that I usually get sleepy but then it gets better and that's the best time to code, but it's always after 1am and that's pretty bad when you have to wake up at 7 ;) [04:38] yeah, I got no friends in the immediate area, either. [04:39] Ficthe: no, not in the us. canada [04:39] Camarade_Tux: I've never been one to get sleepy, ever, but of course I go to sleep because of course I need sleep. :) [04:39] stealth-, there is very probably some store that does this kind of service.. because there's an obvious demand for it [04:39] firebird619: same here [04:39] firebird619, I think I don't sleep well here, I get terribly sleepy this year [04:39] Ficthe: well I cant drive at my age, and I would know of one in the immediate area :( [04:39] firebird619: hey we got my eduke32 connecting now [04:40] chopp: awesome. what was the issue? [04:40] you guys and your eduke32..... [04:40] chopp, hmmmmm [04:40] Am i the only one who likes cube 2? [04:40] yes. :P [04:40] stealth-, duke is god ! did you know duke was modelled after Pat' ? [04:40] orly? [04:40] anyone have an idea how to get slackbuilds lastfm to include headers [04:40] yarly! [04:41] Camarade_Tux: meh, it wont run on my shitty laptop graphics driver [04:41] stealth-, you're just a commplainer! [04:41] firebird619: /usr/share/games/eduke32 was getting left behind on the uninstall. :P [04:41] :( [04:41] chopp: Ah, that would explain it. :P [04:41] Ficthe: hey, I would play with you guys if it would run on my laptop [04:41] chopp :D [04:41] \o/ [04:41] chopp: now you can join in on the fun. [04:41] stealth-, duke nukem 3d has to run *everywhere* ! [04:41] who's hosting ? [04:41] not I, I wont be on much longer. [04:42] 03:41. yikes [04:42] firebird619: yup, for as long as I'll last anyway [04:42] firebird619, stay awake ! [04:42] chopp: haha, yeah. dtanner is the freshest meat I think, we'll all go after him. :) [04:42] I should update my graphics driver and kick your guys' buts :P [04:42] haha [04:42] s/buts/butts/ :D [04:42] xdan779, you mean you want to install development headers along with the slackbuild ? [04:42] dtanner: you still awake and listening, we're comin for ya. :D [04:43] firebird619: I honestly dont know what that means, this is the only channel I see people do that, lol. [04:43] Camarade_Tux: yes [04:43] Camarade_Tux: If only I could. :D [04:44] firebird619: I figure its someone correcting my spelling? [04:44] stealth-: yes [04:44] xdan779, you'll have to edit the slackbuild below the "#Last.fm doesn't have a nice installer, so we need to package it manually" line [04:44] firebird619: whats with the s at the start? [04:44] firebird619, yes you can! [04:44] it's like what the sed command does. you're switching "s" "/buts/" for "/butts/" [04:44] firebird619, we'd better start soon, you're hosting ? [04:45] Camarade_Tux: haha, not tonight, it's getting SO late. Maybe tomorrow I can. :D [04:45] Camarade_Tux: yea I figures daminit they dont as I am not sure what to make of it [04:45] Action: Camarade_Tux is sad other channels don't sed their irc messages to correct them ='( [04:45] firebird619, chicken ! [04:45] Action: firebird619 hands Camarade_Tux a tissue to wipe the sad tears. [04:46] firebird619: ah, I see. never heard of that command till now, thats why ;) thanks [04:46] firebird619, I'm a tough guy, I don't cry, chicken! [04:46] stealth-: yw [04:46] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:46] Camarade_Tux: haha, alright ya fly eater. :P [04:46] xdan779, well, you can try to contact the maintainer [04:46] firebird619, haha :p [04:47] firebird619, pm me your ip so I can connect :) [04:47] not tonight you crazy frenchman. :P [04:47] it's only 11am ! :D [04:47] for YOU. [04:47] haha [04:48] It's early, early morning here. 03:47 [04:48] firebird619, come on, you're not going to go to bed when a duke nukem 3D online game is waiting for you ! :P [04:48] :O [04:48] firebird619, or we stop by 4am ? :) [04:49] It's not waiting for me, I'd have to make it. :D [04:49] s/make/host/ [04:49] you go play a game with chopp [04:49] I lost all my saved games...pissed me off [04:49] firebird619, it's quick to set up :) [04:50] chopp, yeah, same [04:50] but I think they are still in my ~/.eduke32 actually [04:50] chopp: haha, that sucks. [04:50] yup [04:50] Action: firebird619 runs /exec rm -rf /home/Camarade_Tux/.eduke32. hehehe [04:51] yay! I tried to set up the printer as a normal user again in a desperate attempt to try to make it work without doing anything different than the last 5 times and it worked! [04:51] hey I see them in my .eduke32 also. Why won't they load? [04:51] stealth-: \o/ [04:51] chopp, guess it looks in another folder [04:51] it rejected my password and said it wouldnt work, but registered it anyways. lol *cheer* [04:51] firebird619, you only need to run : eduke32 -net -p25000 /n0:2 [04:51] k, im going to bed then, cya guys [04:52] :3 [04:52] night stealth- [04:52] s/2/$number_of_players/ [04:52] stealth- (n=root@66.183.233.184) left irc: "leaving" [04:52] stealth-, night and good luck with your inter... [04:52] 03:51. NO NO NO [04:52] he dizconnectid ='( [04:52] firebird619, come on :p [04:52] hate my life [04:52] wow, nice spelling [04:53] Camarade_Tux: you're worse than a two year old. :P [04:53] firebird619, yeah, I spend a lot of time trying to improve my english, I visit myspace mainly [04:53] my girlfried fell and now she has a sprained ankle [04:53] haha, we all know that's the place to go for grammar lessons. [04:53] firebird619, I'll harass you until you play :) [04:53] jeev: ouch, that's too bad. [04:53] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:53] jeev, ouch [04:53] Camarade_Tux: go play the game yourself and harrass a stripper, see how far it gets ya. [04:53] gypsydawg (n=gypsydaw@71.197.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [04:53] but sprained is still ok, annoying but there's worse [04:54] yea man [04:54] could have been broken [04:54] it's 2 am and im here [04:54] she's careless [04:54] firebird619, saw the girl dancing nakid around the fire in the cave ? [04:54] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-154.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [04:54] which level is that? [04:55] 2-x, can't remember [04:55] Ah, haven't gotten there yet. [04:55] oh no, it's in the 1-x [04:55] a level with lava [04:55] I've only gotten to E1L2 myself. [04:56] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [04:56] E1L5 E4L4 and E3L9 I had saved [04:56] I see, the reason you don't want to play is because you're scared, because I'll probably kick your butt ! [04:56] RUPP (n=Miranda@c-24-131-125-51.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:56] time [04:56] err. [04:56] my aliases aren't working [04:56] chicken ='( [04:56] turkey [04:57] cock ? [04:57] roadrunner [04:57] rooster [04:57] canard [04:57] Hmm, none of my aliases in konversation are working. [04:58] duck [04:58] goose [04:58] I knew what that meant. [04:58] firebird619, yeah, but I should have remembered it in the first place! [04:58] firebird619, forget about konversation, run eduke32 :) [04:59] Sun Jun 14 03:59:03 CDT 2009 [04:59] see, not yet 4am :) [05:00] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [05:00] dang near [05:00] Camarade_Tux: I may do that, wil see if I can figure it out on my own first though [05:00] whoa, I can open konsole as a tab in konversation. :D [05:00] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:01] Camarade_Tux: now it is: Sun Jun 14 04:00:41 CDT 2009 [05:01] firebird619, see it's not 4am anymore :) [05:02] you're relentless. [05:02] hmmm... "Visit us on IRC in #eduke32 on irc.freenode.net!" [05:03] firebird619, yeah, that's probably because it's still the morning here :p [05:03] hmmmm..."Visit Camarade_Tux on IRC in #Camarade_Tux_won't_quit on irc.freenode.net!" [05:04] I didn't know you had your own channel. [05:04] must be fun talking to yourself all day. [05:04] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:05] firebird619, yeah, we might even have a third player for our game : he's been harassing me all day long, his nick is Camarade_Tux >< [05:07] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. [05:07] Camarade_Tux: Is he that goofball that hangs around in ##slackware a lot? [05:07] firebird619, yeah, it's him ! [05:07] I thought so [05:08] he's really annoying trolling ocaml all the time :) [05:08] remind me to send #ocaml a sympathy card. [05:08] they shouldn't have to go through such torture. [05:09] lyrics you should never sing in public : "laß mich dein Sklave sein" [05:09] firebird619, yeah, they're quite unlucky :D [05:09] Well, time to go. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening everyone. Take care. [05:09] Action: firebird619 mass e-mails Camarade_Tux a bunch of spam. [05:09] later firebird619 :) [05:10] later chopp. [05:10] See ya Camarade_Tux [05:10] night firebird619 :) [05:10] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [05:11] cmair (n=cmair@host21-58-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:12] RUPP (n=Miranda@c-24-131-125-51.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:13] Ficthe (n=roee@unaffiliated/ficthe) left irc: "q" [05:17] rignes_ (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:17] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) joined ##slackware. [05:20] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:28] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [05:33] VanRoy1 (n=kitsilan@mna75-2-82-67-196-165.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [05:33] VanRoy1 (n=kitsilan@mna75-2-82-67-196-165.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:37] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.86.155.1) joined ##slackware. [05:37] what is the difference between a slack version and 'current'? [05:39] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/CURRENT.WARNING [05:41] chopp: a roger, so a) it's changing all the time b) it's most likely not stable at the one or other end? [05:42] there is alot of us around here that do run -current, but yes there is allways a chance of instability. [05:45] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-32-177.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net) left ##slackware. [05:45] Edwrold (n=chatzill@200.217.40.198) joined ##slackware. [05:47] how often does it change so you have to update to follow current? [05:48] have a look at the changelogs: ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt [05:49] guess i will stick with the latest stable then - looks like a lot of running-after-changes [05:50] Edwrold (n=chatzill@200.217.40.198) left ##slackware. [05:50] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:50] thank you anyways for the pointers [05:51] I keep an update mirror of -current so upgrading is fairly quick and easy, but yeah probably best to stick with stable [05:51] np [05:53] Lapmann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [05:58] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:00] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:01] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [06:02] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:04] hey my friend has an asus laptop, an N10 with the dual graphics cards setup. is there a "best way" to set up his kernel (we need to recompile) for both the intel and nvidia graphics? [06:12] muzz2k (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [06:13] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:14] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-182-88.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [06:14] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:14] Heya,folks....How's everyone? [06:15] tired [06:15] just ran 5k [06:15] other than that pretty good :) [06:15] good to hear,jdog [06:18] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC01B1A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:18] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [06:18] Hello! [06:19] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-43-166.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:20] Heya,pri4pus [06:20] hi, yesterday a dude and i set up his notebook, today he reported this to me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ctd3vCDfs, i guessed the nvidia driver, any ideas? [06:20] (its slack64) [06:24] nvision: What's the make and model of the notebook? [06:24] nvision, and which nvidia driver ? nvidia's closed-source driver ? [06:24] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-59-101-134-34.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:25] Heya,Camarade_Tux.. How's ya doin' ? [06:25] Camarade_Tux, nvidia 183.x, the newest from the nvidia.com site [06:25] MLanden, Asus pro72v ...something like thtat [06:27] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-110-253.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:28] hey MLanden, doing great, thanks, and you ? [06:29] Good to hear,Camarade_Tux...doin' great for the mornin'...:D [06:30] MLanden, I'm going to scare you : I woke up at 5:30am, by myself ;) [06:30] nvision, maybe the refresh rates ? [06:31] nvision: Are you sure that model uses NVidia?...from their site,some of the models use  the Embedded Intel  GMA X4500HD [06:31] if that's a gma x4500, which xorg is installed ? 1.4 or 1.6 ? [06:33] what? no tea or coffee for your mornin', Camarade_Tux? Now ,THAT would be scary....:D [06:33] MLanden, no i'm not sure, but he said it's a Geforce 9M.. we will check that and the refresh rates (i remember skipping through xorgconfig very roughly).. thx [06:34] xorg 1.6 [06:36] don't use xorgconfig ! use xorgsetup [06:36] iirc xorgconfig should even be deprecated [06:36] uh.. m mistike [06:36] unohu (n=unohu@unaffiliated/unohu) joined ##slackware. [06:36] mistake* [06:36] nvision: Which country did he purchase the Asus notebook? [06:36] Germany [06:38] nvision, so did you ran xorgconfig or did you messed up the names on irc ? [06:39] and with 1.6, you might even try to run without an xorg.conf ;) [06:39] did ran xorgconfig, maybe messed up the refresh-rates [06:40] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.129) joined ##slackware. [06:40] brian_ (n=brian@ip72-204-125-6.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:40] nvision, you can tell him to rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf, or to run xorgsetup, it's very very easy to run [06:40] brian_ (n=brian@ip72-204-125-6.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [06:40] yo slackytude [06:40] y0 [06:40] anyone got an Asus N10 [06:40] y0,slackytude [06:40] Action: slackytude is sitting outside the university [06:41] waiting for someone with a key [06:41] nvision, xorgsetup only asks for your keyboard layout and color depth [06:41] y0 MLanden , Camarade_Tux [06:41] slackytude, haha :p [06:41] Camarade_Tux, well its a sunny 30°C [06:41] o/ [06:41] Camarade_Tux, I dont mind sitting here for a bit [06:41] slackytude, hehe, as long as the battery lasts ? [06:41] Action: TwinReverb taps into the spy satellites and watches slackytude [06:41] good weather for sittin' [06:41] the mere fact that its a nice sunday like that and Im at uni shows that I have no life whatsoever [06:42] slackytude, no, it shows your exams are nearing ;) [06:42] TwinReverb, Im the dude on the bench in the shadows [06:42] no, your life right now is education. that's smart [06:42] Camarade_Tux, yes [06:42] TwinReverb, Id rather be a pron star [06:42] slackytude, you and 99% of the men out there, or so it seems [06:42] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [06:42] Action: slackytude nods [06:42] slackytude, will you join the slackware Duke Nukem 3D team ? :D [06:42] screw the bastards, taking away me jo! [06:43] job! [06:43] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@88.242.160.108) joined ##slackware. [06:43] but there have been both men and women who left that industry that have said it's not fun at all [06:43] Camarade_Tux, haha [06:43] Camarade_Tux, why not [06:43] TwinReverb, well, I wouldnt want to do it forever [06:43] Camarade_Tux, hows the weather for you? [06:43] slackytude, we're currently having troubles playing with more than 2 players at once but it runs nice enough :) [06:44] slackytude, sunny, light clouds [06:44] they should disappear soon [06:44] nvision: Looks like with those models you and your friend will need to see which video chip that particular Asus is using( Intel or NVidia)..seems for the Pro72 series,both are used.. [06:44] I should be at the swimming pool, getting a sunburn [06:44] unohu (n=unohu@unaffiliated/unohu) left ##slackware. [06:45] slackytude, no ! if you have a sunburn, the pornstar woman nails will hurt you ! [06:45] good point [06:46] http://www.sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2009-06-14.gif [06:46] antoni (n=user@9.pool85-53-28.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [06:46] hi all [06:47] y0 antoni [06:47] do you know when will Slackware 13 be released? [06:47] when its ready [06:47] but soon [06:47] slackytude, hahaha :P [06:47] Camarade_Tux, ^-^ [06:48] well, xorg version bump, slackware13 *has* to be near ;) [06:48] aye [06:48] slackytude: lol...._C_ [06:48] nice one, eh? [06:48] Action: slackytude <3 sinfest [06:49] man, it sure is hot [06:51] slackytude, argh, die ! [06:51] 3195 sinfest comics left to read ! :o [06:51] I will pre-order one copy :)! thanks [06:51] Camarade_Tux, they are all good ^-^ [06:51] antoni, and a t-shirt? [06:51] Action: slackytude did a preorder *and* a t-shirt [06:51] slackytude: no [06:52] slackytude: Only the cd-rom set [06:52] oh well, good enough [06:52] slackytude, you'll *have* to post a picture of you with this slackware t-shirt ;) [06:52] I shall! [06:53] when compiling the kernel on an Intel Atom processor, what's the best option to pick in the kernel for Processor Family ? [06:53] what i'm hoping to do is disable Generic x86 support so the kernel image isn't so large [06:53] TwinReverb, I went for P3 but kept the generic support too [06:54] TwinReverb, that doesn't save a lot of space [06:54] Isnt the atom a generic x86? [06:54] slackytude, no, it's a bit more evolved than that ;) [06:54] slackytude, there is no such thing as a generic x86 [06:54] ar least I think so [06:54] that's like me saying i want to go to Chevy dealership and purchase a '09 Chevy Generic [06:54] with the Atom, are there sensors that are easy to monitor? [06:54] TwinReverb, I didn't have time to experiment but you might just try different settings :) [06:54] don't forget to report ;) [06:55] MLanden, at least one but I can't give you its name... actually I can, hold on ;) [06:55] I think you have at least /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/temp1_input [06:56] Action: MLanden places that in back of his minf for future refs...:D [06:56] s/minf/mind [06:56] Action: Camarade_Tux wrote that on another irc channel earlier today ;) [06:56] MLanden, find /sys -iname "*temp*" ;) [06:56] MLanden, uh, easy to monitor to me means they are supported by kernel and show up "automagically" with xfce's sensors plugin [06:56] Camarade_Tux, i think i'll just have to go with 586/686 for now [06:57] TwinReverb, maybe try pentium3 [06:57] TwinReverb, gah, that's stupid, I have a .config for eee [06:57] noted..thanks,TwinReverb [06:57] this is an Asus N10 [06:57] not perfect yet, but I've done it... but it's on another computer which I can't access [06:57] baccardi (n=nera@78-58-204-167.static.zebra.lt) joined ##slackware. [06:57] TwinReverb, oh, ok [06:57] baccardi (n=nera@78-58-204-167.static.zebra.lt) left ##slackware. [06:58] intel atom [06:58] btw, the sensor path I gave is a standard one ;) [06:58] slacky (n=chatzill@86.123.214.116) joined ##slackware. [06:58] brian_ (n=brian@ip72-204-125-6.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:58] slacky (n=chatzill@86.123.214.116) left ##slackware. [06:59] Camarade_Tux: cool [07:00] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:00] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@88.242.160.108) left irc: "MOTHERFUCKERS OF THE WORLD! UNITE!" [07:01] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:02] MLanden, forgot something : that's ok if you're using the coretemp.ko kernel module, which works on intel cpus but I don't know for amd ones (I think coretemp is becoming the standard thoughà [07:02] s/à/) [07:02] / [07:02] mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:03] Camarade_Tux: just asking hypothetically for future reference thanks [07:04] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [07:04] MLanden, yeah, anyway, find /sys -iname "*temp*" works well, and you have /usr/bin/sensors too ;) [07:05] antoni (n=user@9.pool85-53-28.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:06] hopefully, with coretemp becoming standard the MIPS/ARM netbooks will comply up to a sort [07:11] ARM netbooks will be the best :) [07:12] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [07:12] maybe there should be a PS3 port to take over from Yellow Dog Linux [07:12] Action: slackytude wants an ARM netbook as well [07:12] not that I think there is much good about PS3s except their power [07:13] its the new hip thing [07:14] hear ya,slackytude.....:D....ah,with slackarm [07:14] armedslack [07:14] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-162-170.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [07:14] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [07:14] http://www.armedslack.org/ [07:15] slackarm sounds like something a tennis player get when he trains too much [07:15] right...thanks for the correction [07:17] slackytude, I was thinking the same thing, except not tennis. [07:18] heh [07:18] MLanden, wasnt dissing or something [07:19] It's alright....typos are fun [07:19] armedslack is a cool name [07:21] pfft [07:22] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.199.59) joined ##slackware. [07:22] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-208-190.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:24] it's a cool project [07:24] ARM notebooks will be cool just for basic stuff. [07:24] They will be stupid. [07:24] Slow [07:24] 12 h battery time ^-^ [07:25] as long as opera and xchat and ssh runs on it, I have what I need [07:25] actually, as long as ssh runs on it I have what I need [07:25] In a year or two there will be x84 notebooks with the same battery life. [07:25] x84 huh= [07:25] Big Brother for '84...:D [07:26] I mean Intel Atom. [07:26] the x84 processor is also known as the Intel Orwell [07:26] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "leaving" [07:26] pri4pus, maybe, maybe not. still I like ARM [07:26] dammit,Urchlay....LOL [07:26] hey does anyone happen to know what drivers use tmpfs and if so, how much of it they use? [07:27] so the damn dog woke me up at the butt-crack of dawn again :( [07:27] heh [07:28] slackytude: Why? [07:28] pri4pus: maybe he's a Larry Niven fan? [07:28] pri4pus, Ive coded both intel and arm assembly [07:28] Urchlay: sorry to hear [07:29] Urchlay, huh? [07:29] slackytude: guess not [07:29] I am actually. dont see the connection tho [07:29] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalgamated_Regional_Militia [07:29] the ARM, ahh [07:29] heh [07:29] The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton :) [07:29] now I get it ^-^ [07:30] [07:30] I like how the ktzin always get confused by it [07:32] ach great [07:32] me mates are at mcdonalds now [07:32] seems like Ill be sitting some time [07:32] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [07:32] y0 init[1] [07:32] MLanden: do you remember what all we found wrong with that gmp3info thing we were messing with the other night? [07:33] I have 3 patches for it now (one from you) [07:33] heya slackytude ! [07:33] Urchlay: hi :) [07:33] howdy [07:34] Action: init[1] planning to create slackbuilds for klavaro ! what do you guys say? [07:34] init[1], line by line [07:34] eh [07:34] diregard that comment [07:34] eh, no idea what klavaro is, but the more slackbuilds, the better [07:34] aye [07:34] touch typing [07:34] tutor [07:34] ah, neat [07:35] not my cup of thing but why not [07:35] the best touch-typing tutor ever though is a hardware solution [07:35] you get the kind of keyboard that has removable keycaps (separate pieces from the actual keys) [07:35] cool to hear,Urchlay [07:35] and you remove them all [07:35] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.25.222) joined ##slackware. [07:35] and you type on the all-blank keys for 3 or 4 weeks [07:36] Urchlay: omg are you serous ? do you have any link to it [07:36] s/serous/serious [07:36] init[1]: what, the keyboard? search for "ibm model m" [07:36] those are the only kind of keyboards I use (but I don't take the keycaps off!) [07:36] ok .. but it seems like slackers like only gtypist [07:37] slacker are hard to generalize [07:37] only tuxtype and gtypist were found in slackbuilds [07:37] except in saying that they are hard to generalize, of course [07:37] o_0 [07:37] init[1], but you are a slacker and will be submitting klavaro shorty, no? [07:37] Action: init[1] #shellium [07:37] yes [07:38] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [07:38] y0 Pig_Pen [07:38] hi slackytude [07:38] soon ,but gyachi submission is still on queue [07:38] one time i saw a box of model m's at a thrift store. should have bought those suckers, and sold them on ebay [07:38] *but my [07:39] ananke: O_o...dammit?!? [07:39] MLanden : yeah. kicking myself for that. [07:40] ananke: I found a giant box of them at a computer salvage yard and got the whole box for $10 (was like 50-60 keyboards in there, though maybe half were too rusted out to be savlageable) [07:40] the two model m's i got, i bought for $1 each, so that's some consolation [07:40] oops init[1] make a typing mistake /me instead of /join [07:40] also I bought 10 new-old-stock ones in about 2002 for $1/ea (they weren't new-in-box, but they were still in their styrofoam inserts) [07:41] sopas (n=souphead@120.28.168.40) left irc: "Leaving" [07:41] our thrift store often has very neat stuff, due to proximity to vt.edu. yesterday i saw a few rackmount servers there, and my friend bought a canon mfc for $15. it's a newer model, with usb/ethernet/wifi/etc. [07:42] oddly enough, we just dropped off a piece of equipment that used to cost probably $200k. it was a genomic analyser, with a big lazer/etc. size of a medium fridge [07:43] Action: slackytude wants the big lazer [07:43] *big* lazer [07:43] heh, someone's going to buy that and start their own homebrew Human Genome Project? [07:44] or maybe they'll build a giant death ray out of it? [07:44] Urchlay : i imagine the optics, lazer, etc, would be great for somebody to take out [07:44] Urchlay, on the moon [07:44] there were plenty of precision motors too [07:44] nifty [07:44] some robotics geek is going to love you [07:45] oh yeah [07:45] Action: slackytude is a robotics geek [07:45] wrong area, tho [07:45] but robotics is a lot of fancy math [07:45] I wish I knew that before I joined the lecture [07:45] slackytude: heh it's not "slackarm" , it's "Slackware ARM" or ARMedslack [07:45] MoZes, I know [07:45] Slackware has an ARM port now? [07:46] I played absolutely no tennis and my arms are straight right now ;) [07:46] MoZes, got lag or sumthing, we talked about that hours ago [07:46] either way, we never got to use it for anything. it used to be in one of our labs, and something broke. the vendor took out one small part, and trashed the rest of it [07:46] ccfreak2k, since april [07:46] Oh, so I'm not TOO far behind. [07:46] So what major system does it run on? [07:46] ccfreak2k, official since april. it exists for longer, of course [07:46] Oh, it's an official port since April? [07:47] Ok, I AM way behind. [07:47] ccfreak2k, not many afaik [07:47] ccfreak2k, yes [07:47] I can't really think of anything specific that A) has ARM and B) could run Slackware programs. [07:47] Action: init[1] klavaro has quite bad dependency Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.12.11, gtkdatabox >= 0.9.0.0, libcurl >= 2.18.2, libsexy >= 0.1.11) [07:47] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.22.189) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:48] ccfreak2k: it'll run on pretty much any arm device that has an armv4 or higher cpu, which is anything on the market these days. [07:48] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.129) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:48] ccfreak2k: it officially supports emulation in QEMU, and the Marvell SheevaPlug device. [07:48] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:48] MoZes, then there's the debacle of getting it installed. [07:48] ccfreak2k: there's no debacle [07:48] you read my documents :) [07:48] Actually I didn't. [07:48] it's easy. yo use the standard slackware installer [07:48] I just read what gets said here. [07:48] ccfreak2k: heh. what's said here often does not reflect reality I don't think :) [07:49] Maybe not. [07:49] But when I think ARM, I think smartphones and the Nintendo DS. [07:49] nah AS isn't for smartphones and stuff. it's really for desktop machines where you can do a full installation. If you want to put Linux on a phone, then do it properly and tailor it to the device. [07:50] Yeah, but I don't know of any desktop computers that use ARM. [07:50] It's usually PowerPC in that space. [07:50] the SheevaPlug has 512MB RAM and can have a hard disk attached via USB, so they can have a full installation on it; aand it has a 1.2GHZ cpu so it makes a good build syst [07:50] ccfreak2k: there are some - the old Acorn StrongARM RiscPC which is what I started on, and the Iyonix which has a 600MHz Xscale ARM cpu [07:51] but the first is about 15 years old, and the 2nd isn't manufacturered nor has as linux 2.6 port, so it's useless ;( [07:51] hmm, wonder what's in my old sharp zaurus. ARM of some variety... [07:51] Neither of which I've heard of. [07:51] :| [07:51] MoZes : we ought to have slackwarestudio equivalent, for folks to build their own appliances :) [07:51] Urchlay: yeah but tbh, they're so slow that you have to question: "why bother?" :-) [07:51] susestudio that is [07:52] MoZes: what, the zaurus? well it has wireless ethernet and a functional web browser, which would make it somewhat useful if the previous owner hadn't stepped on it & cracked the touchscreen [07:52] ccfreak2k: unless you follow ARM stuff, you wouldn't. I haven't heard of most of the arm devices people ask about until they ask about them, because I'm not into little gadgets unless they make good build machines. [07:53] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@20151138048.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:53] Urchlay: that'll do it [07:53] Urchlay: the CPU is only ~200MHz tho ? [07:53] My extent of knowledge of ARM is "it's in the embedded mobile space existing above proprietary small CPUs used in cell phones but below PowerPC". [07:54] ccfreak2k: pretty much, yes. originally they were made for desktop machines which is how I got into them. [07:54] MoZes: yeah. However that's not what really makes it so slow... it's the QTopia graphics layer apparently (I got MAME running on it, it couldn't do pac-man at full framerate, whereas my 486/66 used to be able to do that just fine...) [07:54] Which was probably some time in the 90s when I was in gradeschool. [07:54] ccfreak2k: that's right. [07:54] early/mid 90s [07:54] then it all went down hill ;-) [07:55] I'd like to try to run a powerpc port on my gamecube, but most of the time when I look for a powerpc linux I get results for Macs. [07:55] someone did one already tho? slackintosh? [07:56] I don't know much about powerpc archs/models tho so I don't know how it works [07:56] Yeah, Slackintosh. Mac. [07:56] I knw how ARM works - you just need a boot loader and a kernel for your particular device, and you can put armedslack on whatever you want. [07:57] You COULD run "mac" powerpc binaries on any compatible powerpc CPU, but Mac distros tend to have Mac boot media and Mac install instructions. [07:57] ah yes that is what I was thinking - about running the mac ppc binaries [07:58] I tried using the uClinux distro builder thing, but then I didn [07:58] t even know if it would work. [07:58] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:58] Mostly because I was struggling to get the kernel to boot from something other than network. [07:58] compared to the other ARM platform I messed with a bit (nintendo GBA), the 200MHz CPU in the Zaurus was a speed demon... [07:58] But I digress. [07:59] Yes, game consoles tend to not be that great at general computing. They're pretty good at running...GAMES, though. [07:59] (guessing armedslack will *not* run on a GBA...) [07:59] Urchlay: If the hardware and software is tailored to the device, it's ok but running a full blown linux distribution which is built for a generic audience; it's slow. [08:00] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC01B1A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:00] ccfreak2k: sure. What I was doing was in fact developing a game (or really helping another guy who did 90% of the actual work) [08:00] Urchlay: using a nintendo development kit? [08:00] how can i check wheater my nic is running with 1Gb or 100Mb? [08:00] nah. gcc and a couple of weird libraries for things like audio [08:00] vdv: ethtool eth0 [08:01] devkitPro is the defacto standard environment for compiling for GBA/DS, gamecube/wii and PSP. [08:01] devkitpro = nintendo's official SDK? from what I heard, it cost a good chunk of money and they were picky about who they'd license it to... [08:01] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.199.59) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [08:02] but that info was secondhand and is now years out of date, I dunno anything about what's happening in the nintendo world these days [08:02] Urchlay, devkitPro is third-party. [08:02] CodeWarrior does the official compiler and IDE. [08:03] codewarrior being a frontend for gcc? (so my faulty memory tells me anyway) [08:03] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [08:03] Well, devkitPro is third party, open source, etc, pretty much the opposite of any official software. [08:03] CodeWarrior is its own compiler. [08:03] I think it's the company name, but I can't remember. [08:04] anyway back then, it was gcc or spend a bunch of money, so we went the free route... also it was nice to use tools I'm already familiar with [08:04] he actually managed to sell the game, but never actually got paid [08:04] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-154.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:04] Actually, back in the Sega Genesis/SNES up to the N64 days, the official third party tools used GCC as a backend. [08:05] pi31415 (n=chatzill@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:05] Wouldn't your name be pi31416? [08:06] only if he has a well-rounded personality [08:06] rworkman, i find that xfce4-xkb-plugin slackbuild,need libxklavier to play.....and slackbuilds.org don't say anything....sorry for my english :) [08:06] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.129) joined ##slackware. [08:07] Action: slackytude is now inside the uni [08:07] finally ? =P [08:07] coolin' off,slackytude? 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[08:11] I like that theory more han the gun theory [08:13] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-254-172.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:13] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "I believe in christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything [08:13] eat brioche and all your problems go away [08:13] broiche? [08:13] sounds like some disease [08:14] Action: slackytude smoke break [08:14] gah, a wasp is annoying me [08:14] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brioche [08:14] Action: compl3x doesn't mind wasp's - its the hornets [08:14] It's some kind of food. [08:15] eat that ! http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Hk-oJ0pKvzI/R-FA0_EhOSI/AAAAAAAAANo/PMR7ObGIxHw/s400/cakes_in_the_city_brioche_tressee.jpg [08:15] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [08:15] http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6024/10keszscnezet2e4.jpg [08:15] compl3x, I already have allergies, I don't need anything else right now [08:15] haha ouch [08:15] ccfreak2k, LOL ! [08:16] ApOgEE- (i=apogeek@my.grandma.uses.shellium.org) left irc: "http://coderstalk.blogspot.com" [08:17] ApOgEE- (i=apogeek@my.grandma.uses.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [08:17] Action: Camarade_Tux gets hungrier and hungrier... http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JXfq2h5HlYo/SGDeFQHQyiI/AAAAAAAABhc/d_VGsBqvQbU/s400/S1033170.JPG [08:17] http://blogs.pitch.com/fatcity/bacon & eggs platter.jpg [08:17] brioche beats that ;) [08:18] (although I wouldn't mind bacon and eggs ); ) [08:18] s/);/;)/ [08:18] bread is just empty carbohydrates, you need protein for strength [08:18] hmmmm, bacon and eggs on brioche ^^ [08:18] And then the peanut butter sandwich was invented. 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[08:25] my buddy likes debian but has slackware now, and i was wondering, can't he use the same kernel (like he's compiling right now) from Slackware to boot all the others? (like just the same call to a kernel image but then a different root?) [08:25] slackytude, you in england? [08:26] TwinReverb: in theory that'll work. Remember both root filesystems need /lib/modules/ [08:26] well he built ext3 (debian) and xfs (slackware) into both [08:26] er into that kernel image [08:26] actually, scratch the "in theory" bit. That'll work, period [08:27] as <*> [08:27] compl3x, nope [08:27] i have built vanilla kernels in debian in such a way that the intitrd can be removed from the bootloader [08:27] yes, but if he built any modules at all that he might ever need to use... [08:27] well i doubt he needs the initrd because he built his own kernel in debian and it works fine [08:27] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [08:27] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@CPE-58-165-93-206.qld.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [08:28] yeah, initrd would just be extra fluff if he's got everything he needs to boot built in [08:28] RaNdY (i=randy@i.hate.your.vhosts.shellium.org) left irc: Client Quit [08:28] I was talking about /lib/modules/$version on the root filesystem(s), not in an initrd [08:28] RaNdY (i=randy@i.hate.your.vhosts.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [08:29] compl3x, why? [08:29] Urchlay, huh? [08:30] you mean /lib/modules/2.6.30 ? [08:30] TwinReverb: yeah. I said $version cause I had no idea what version he's using... [08:30] TwinReverb, should work as long as you have your kernel command line correct. [08:30] ah [08:31] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [08:34] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: Client Quit [08:35] if I were dual-booting distros, I probably would let each one use its own kernel, but that's because I'm getting lazy in my old age and don't feel a pressing need to recompile the kernel unless there's actually a problem with it [08:41] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:42] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:42] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) joined ##slackware. [08:43] Nick change: TClayton_ -> TClayton [08:44] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:44] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.8.246) joined ##slackware. [08:45] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.41.110) joined ##slackware. [08:46] hello happy slackers [08:46] Heya, LnxSlk [08:47] s/LnxSlk/LnxSlck [08:47] soup [08:47] hey [08:47] lw0x15: bread..:D [08:48] libsoup ? 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[08:56] battle of the left and right...:D [08:57] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: "Leaving" [08:57] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:59] twanny796 (n=twanny@195.158.83.57) joined ##slackware. [08:59] the worst battle you'll ever face is against yourself [08:59] yay so i scripted rc.S to do exactly what debian does: to skip fsck if batteries are discharging [09:00] nice [09:00] i have a pdf file with no index, how can I make one with index? [09:00] that and the morning,LnxSlck [09:00] it was rather easy too [09:00] yesterday i figured out why linux was crashing on my netbook [09:00] yeap [09:01] today i figured out why audacious was crashing on boot up (i had renamed a bunch of files on its playlist) [09:01] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-254-172.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:01] http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10485#c4 [09:01] TwinReverb, which fs do you use on your lappy btw ? [09:02] TwinReverb: ehhh, that sounds like rotten app design, if it can't handle that (at least by removing the missing files from its playlist) [09:02] Action: Urchlay crosses audacious off his list of apps to ever try to use [09:03] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:03] audacious really sucks [09:03] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-254-172.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:03] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:03] Camarade_Tux, no it don't [09:03] Camarade_Tux, XFS [09:03] Urchlay, maybe [09:03] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [09:05] TwinReverb, and you have some fsck ? [09:05] TwinReverb, I got fed up with it taking thrice the memory and the cpu it should [09:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:05] (thrice being scientifically determined) [09:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:06] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:07] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [09:09] gotta go, laterz :) [09:09] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [09:10] twanny796 (n=twanny@195.158.83.57) left irc: "BitchX: so real, you'll wet yourself!" [09:12] I'm an ext3 weenie [09:13] wtf is apache not parsing php anymore [09:13] O_o [09:15] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [09:15] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-162-170.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:16] compl3x (n=compl3x@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Leaving" [09:17] what I do with ext3 is use tunefs to get rid of the mandatory fsck every so many mounts and/or days [09:17] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) joined ##slackware. [09:17] slacks (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) joined ##slackware. [09:17] tune2fs rather [09:18] nheco (n=nheco@201-34-67-28.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:18] Urchlay: Why? [09:18] with what taking up thrice the memory and cpu it should? what? [09:18] cause it's pointless, with etx3fs [09:18] it still does the fsck if it's not cleanly umounted (power loss or whatever) [09:19] i usually cut the "reserved" space for ext3 to be just barely big enough for the biggest file on the drive [09:19] usually 10% -> 1% [09:19] in fact I suspect it's pointless with ext2 as well (haven't used it in forever, hard to say) [09:20] Urchlay: Filesystem corruption can happen without power loss or a nonclean unmount. [09:20] sure it can [09:20] in case of buggy fs drivers or bad hardware [09:20] but ext3 is well-tested to the point where I consider it safe [09:21] and as for hardware, I'm running software RAID1 (for /) and RAID5 (for /home) [09:22] slacks (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: Client Quit [09:22] XFS is also well tested anyways, and the "old" power loss = data loss on XFS for RAID no longer exists iirc (it was fixed) [09:22] XFS I haven't ever messed with, got nothing to say for or against it [09:22] i like it personally, it works [09:22] might feel a bit slower when rm -Rf /usr/src/linux-2.6.29.6 but oh well, it's just "feel" [09:23] you can & the end of that anyways [09:23] TwinReverb: it hasnt been fixed as its a flaw of the design of the fs [09:23] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [09:23] straterra, that's not what i read [09:23] xfs does extensive caching...power loss can result in lost data due to write delaying [09:23] oh well, regardless, i haven't seen that fail (but i don't use RAID) [09:24] Has nothing to do with raid [09:24] its just the fact it does extensive caching [09:24] can't you just specify mount parameters to fix that? [09:24] theres nothing to fix [09:25] thats the point of xfs [09:25] i'm confused now as to what you mean [09:25] ok..in order to be faster, xfs does a lot of caching [09:26] granted, i'd think people keep regular backups (and since i own a laptop i get notified when power goes out because battery starts discharging) [09:26] meaning that sometimes, a write doesnt get immediately comitted to disk [09:26] it goes in to memory [09:26] yeah so this isn't a design flaw, it's the idea behind having caching [09:26] if its in memory and the power goes off.. [09:27] Action: sajes doesn't keep regular back-ups. [09:27] Action: TwinReverb stabs sajes [09:28] i have a 120MB IDE hard drive here [09:28] Well, I would, but the only machine I have is an eee right now. Threw my desktop out because it was ready to crash and burn, hardware wise. [09:28] what should i do with it [09:28] amazon10x_: Pour gasoline over it and set it on fire. [09:29] 120MB IDE? wow, that's old, what is that, IDE1? [09:29] lol! 120mb drive, even the littlest thumbdrives are bigger than that [09:29] well using the platters as coasters might be more fun 8-) [09:30] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.67.197) joined ##slackware. [09:31] i have no idea where it came from. 120MB is probably pre Windows 95, right? [09:31] 120MB is pre-windows. [09:31] this old laptop has a win98 OEM sticker on the bottom and it has a 20 gig drive [09:31] hmm [09:32] oh, there used to be an old apple 2 in my house, maybe it came from that [09:32] I have an apple //e I was setting up. Uses some kind of proprietary graphics connector I guess. Can't hook it up to a monitor until I find the right adapter. [09:33] Basically, I'm going to just take it out back, pour gasoline on it and set it on fire. :| [09:33] i had 40MB on my 386 [09:33] oh, i just remember there used to be a 386 or 486 in my house. that's probably where it came from [09:34] heck no, do a bare bones slack install without X, and just run a few console apps with it, irssi, links and/or lynx [09:34] yeah i wouldn't understand the need for such a computer unless it was as a firewall appliance [09:35] well, i've got other HDDs sitting around if i wanted to do that. teh shortage is things like cpus and mobos [09:35] man i am so disappointed that the dual Via Eden motherboard (mini iTX) didn't make it into a laptop [09:35] that would've been SO pimp, especially with Via ACE Padlock [09:35] i would've gladly paid a bit more for such a laptop [09:36] the only fan it would've needed is the PSU fan [09:36] i priced out a machine with 8 cores, 32GB of ram, 2x1TB HDDs, and a real nice server mobo for 2k USD [09:38] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [09:38] it's not worth it, i can say that from experience [09:38] like a month before the P4 came out (iirc) i bought a Tyan Tiger 230T dual Tualatin-S 1.13GHz (512k L2 cache each) w/ 1.5GB PC133 ECC RAM for like $1,000 in parts [09:38] 09:31 120MB is pre-windows. [09:39] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.8.246) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:39] my first-ever install of win95 was on a 120MB drive. Come to think of it, so was my first-ever win 3.11 [09:39] it was fast at the time and ran UT2K3 like a bat out of hell, but otherwise it is now obsolete (motherboard finally died) and so now i have nothing to show for it [09:39] errr, and so was my first slackware :) [09:39] Urchlay: i can send this to you if you want it for nostalgia :P [09:39] Urchlay: I'd like to see windows 95 fit on 120mb. [09:39] TwinReverb: well this one was going to be for virtualizing a bunch of machines to do some networking research [09:40] amazon10x_: no thanks, I have a couple shoeboxes full of old 1G and 2G drives, more than I'll ever need [09:40] think i might've had freebsd installed on a hard drive that size [09:40] amazon10x_, not trying to rain on your parade, i'm just telling you [09:40] but then i priced out for $220 a machine with two cores, 4 gigs of ram, Hdd, and a case+psu [09:40] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:40] so we'll just buy like 15 of those [09:40] sajes: ehhh, it does though. Possibly without all the optional components, but it was a functional OS (as functional as win95 ever was, anyway) [09:40] 100-150 mb that is [09:41] i still may end up buying the beast machine to colo in a datacenter though [09:41] Urchlay: If you had to disable features to install it, that means you had no room left over for extra things. [09:41] your logic is strange [09:41] extra things weren't invented by then [09:42] amazon10x_: Ehm.. Sure they were. Pong was invented almost 20 years before 95. [09:42] if you disable all the win95 optional stuff, you save maybe 10-20MB (from memory) [09:42] I had room for win95, netscape 2.0, and a couple DOS games (Doom, for sure) [09:43] "Windows 95 Installation Requirements" http://support.microsoft.com/kb/138349 [09:43] "Typical hard disk space required to install Windows 95 on a clean system: 50-55 MB The actual requirement varies depending on the features you choose to install." [09:43] yah [09:43] that agrees with what I remember [09:43] atari had a pong game you could hook to the back of a TV set [09:44] NukeDukem: there was a whole TV pong industry back then, probably 100 different models were made [09:44] well i'm outta here. good day, everyone [09:44] Guess I was wrong. [09:44] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@97-86-234-223.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:44] NukeDukem: some of them, if they're in good condition and in original packaging, sell for over $200 on ebay [09:45] not bad for late 1970's junk [09:45] sajes: my 120MB drive finally died of old age, replaced with two 500MB Conner drives (remember those?) [09:46] was like getting a whole new computer, the new drives' transfer rate & seek time were amazing compared to the old one [09:46] anybody here who use cisco's vpnclient and have problems with 2.6.30 kernel? [09:46] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [09:46] http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/1068223?page=last [09:47] Urchlay: I was only 3 years old in 95. ;). Although I was digging through old hardware in the attic and I found a 10GB fireball hard drive or something similar. [09:47] NukeDukem: remember the RCA Studio II? [09:47] no [09:47] sorta a bridge between pong and atari 2600...had one used as a kid [09:48] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [09:50] sajes: damn, now I feel old [09:50] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [09:50] 'nother one I recall that a friend had was the Magnavox Odyssey(can't remember if it was 1 or 2) [09:50] Urchlay: That's what I do best. :) [09:50] MLanden: I have an odyssey 2, but only one game for it [09:50] i just googled atari 2600, that was the model we used to have, i did not remember the model number, just that it was an atari [09:51] the odyssey 1 wasn't really anything like a 2600, it lacked a CPU and the cartridges didn't have ROM in them (each cart just shorts a different set of pins on the cart connector, all the games it could ever play were built into the console) [09:52] just think, in 30 years even the sony playstation 3 will look as cheap and cheezy as those old game consoles of the 1970's :D [09:53] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:53] kids have it so good today...we had to imagine the pixels of the sprites to represent somethin'(be it a tank,a car) [09:53] nah, i had it better BECAUSE i had to use my imagination [09:54] today's games are far too realistic (cf. Beat Up Your Boss flash game) [09:54] l8r [09:55] now that analog TV is gone i am going to scan channels again to see of the cable provider changed anything [09:55] How did i miss this happening Facebook vanity URL http://www.facebook.com/username/ [09:55] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@80.42.155.176) joined ##slackware. [09:56] analog TV may be gone, but I'm hanging on to my 1976 model color 19" [09:56] if nothing else, it's great for playing Atari [09:56] someone grabbed http://www.facebook.com/default.aspx that is funny [09:57] maybe some pirate TV stations will pop up now that everything is officially supposed to be digital, that would be cool [09:59] oh yeah,brother [09:59] people could be playing their music & video collections, pr0n, cartoons, anything with both audio & video [10:00] kinda like youtube with no ops...:D..(well,until the cops catch 'em) [10:03] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [10:04] well if they dont want to get caught they would have to set up a TV broadcast station in a automobile and use it only part time like weekends & holidays go for a drive and park on a mountaintop setup and broadcast for a hour or two and then shutdown and split [10:04] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.23.178) joined ##slackware. [10:05] true...at least,there'd be something good on TV....:D [10:06] I always wonder why there's no such thing as amateur TV, except low-res/slow-scan stuff done by ham operators [10:06] good topic [10:06] of course ham radio is so weighed down by rules & regulations, it's no fun to me [10:06] there's actually a rule that says "no singing or music" [10:07] how the *hell* did that become a law? [10:07] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. 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[10:16] myspace 0.o [10:16] normally I wouldn't even look at a myspace page, but apparently that's their official site [10:16] stangly,I have a desire for an Orange Crush right now..:D [10:16] <|Slacker|> lol [10:17] and even though it's eye-stabbing painful, it's still cheaper to get their phone # from there than spending $1 to call 411 [10:18] Urchlay: did we talk about qt generator about a week ago? [10:20] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.67.197) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:21] Urchlay: i think it was the day after, then it was added to slackware-current. what a coincidence :) [10:23] yeah, we did [10:23] haha, that's great [10:24] Turns out I can work around my BIOS bug by passing acpi=ht to Linux at boot time [10:24] what's the "ht" stand for? [10:24] pi31415 (n=chatzill@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:24] heh. Maybe it didn't work that great after all... [10:25] lol [10:26] that would be noobfarm-worthy, if only the quit message were "connection reset by peer" [10:26] or "no route to host" [10:26] true [10:27] how to shutdown vpnc? just kill? [10:28] no idea. Check & see if there's a /etc/rc.d/rc.vpnc script? [10:28] if so, "/etc/rc.d/rc.vpnc stop" [10:30] dammit,Urchlay...got me thinkin' of Reach Out from The Darkness..(cool bass line,cheesy song) [10:30] <|Slacker|> hey [10:30] <|Slacker|> how do I disable that dhcp broadcast discover during boot? [10:31] edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf (read the comments in there) [10:32] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:32] <|Slacker|> Urchlay, thanks [10:32] USE_DHCP[x]="NO" [10:32] in that file :) [10:33] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) joined ##slackware. [10:33] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [10:35] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:35] <|Slacker|> thank you [10:36] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-254-172.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:36] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:38] draeath (i=draeath@unaffiliated/draeath) joined ##slackware. [10:38] There seems to be a corrupt package in slackware-current right now [10:39] which one would that be? [10:39] how corrupt? Politician corrupt? [10:39] a/kernel-modules-smp-2.6.29.4_smp-i686-2.txz [10:39] tar gives code 2, and xzdec says its corrupt [10:39] hmmm, lemme check mine [10:39] tried the easynews and tds mirrors [10:40] oh wait, mine's x86_64, totally useless for comparing with yours :( [10:41] see if the signature matches? gpg --verify a/kernel-modules-smp-2.6.29.4_smp-i686-2.txz.asc [10:41] hey [10:41] er heh [10:41] sorry, bad latency here [10:41] whoa, I just now figured out to get the dog to leave the room [10:41] speaker-test -t sine -f 110 [10:42] checking now Urchlay [10:42] he *hates* that :) [10:42] crap, gpg not present (slackware usb installer) [10:42] have you got md5sum? [10:43] yes [10:43] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) joined ##slackware. [10:43] nothing to check it against though? [10:43] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@annina.cs.unibo.it) joined ##slackware. [10:43] oh i see [10:43] downloading it myself now [10:44] Urchlay: It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. I figured something high pitched and loud. :p [10:44] slackware/CHECKSUMS.md5 [10:44] sajes: nah, that's for tuning the A string on a bass [10:45] md5 fails [10:45] fdoh nevermind.... [10:45] Meh. I'm going to buy a new guitar tuner for my electric guitar. Plugs right into the output port. :o [10:45] MD5 ok [10:45] speaker-test is good for tuning in a pinch [10:45] draeath: I just grabbed it from ftp.osuosl.org, the signature is OK, the md5sum is 31a76faabb15ce3bdfa69d5319d3bca4 [10:46] sajes: my effects box has a decent tuner in it :D (also, my computer is a tuner too) [10:46] Urchlay: different sum here. odd [10:46] ...which is the same as CHECKSUMS.md5 lists for that package too [10:46] draeath: I'm cheap, or else I'd get the TU-2. I'm buying a korg pitchtuner. :p. [10:47] sajes: ah. i have a digitech rp-250 (and guitar-rig for windows) [10:47] sajes: I have a halfway decent tuner, but it's in storage along with most of my other stuff :( [10:47] Urchlay: I had what I _thought_ was a decent tuner. It randomly doesn't pick anything up when I pick a string. [10:48] yuck [10:48] Indeed. It's branded squier. Got it a long time ago with my guitar as a present. [10:48] I have a tuner here (doesn't belong to me) that really really is *only* for guitar (it fails to register anything with a bass, even if I hit the 12th fret or the harmonics) [10:48] yea, squire here too [10:49] as long as your guitar isn't a squier [10:49] it is. but its perfect [10:49] 'Tis. :o [10:49] the neck is just perfect. good clean pickups, etc [10:49] Atleast until I can afford a Fender. [10:50] can't believe a chinese guitar came out so well D: [10:50] one of my basses is a squier, I bought it for $50 to learn how to hack them [10:50] (or whatever you want to call it: removed frets, carved a new nut, replace bridge and pickups) [10:50] i was just watching Antiques Roadshow on PBS and there was a 1959 Fender Stratocaster & 59 Fender amp apraised at 25 grand [10:51] Hey Urchlay, whats the URL for that mirror you tested? [10:51] heh. When I was a kid, my mom sold dad's 1960s Fender amp at a yard sale for $20 [10:51] draeath: ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-current/slackware/a/ [10:51] ty [10:51] shonudo (n=user@c-76-113-6-156.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:51] it wasn't worth $25K back then, but it was still worth a whole lot more than $20 [10:52] here's a chart that might be helpful http://www.indiana.edu/~emusic/hertz.htm [10:52] you do know you dont need a tuner though right? [10:52] my father once owned a Gibson flattop made in the 1930's he sold it, i was so angry about that, i wanted it [10:52] tune to something else thats in tune, or use a fork... then tune from that note [10:53] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@rb5bk147.net.upc.cz expired. [10:53] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!?=1000@rb5bk147.net.upc.cz expired. [10:53] ##slackware: mode change '-bb *!*@rb5bk147.net.upc.cz *!?=1000@rb5bk147.net.upc.cz' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:53] draeath: I do, to set the intonation without spending hours at it [10:53] Lapmann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:53] hours!? minutes! [10:53] intonation, not plain tuning [10:53] goodie. that mirrors borked for me (wget: bad response to RETR: 550...) [10:53] you compare the 12th fret fretted note to the 12th fret harmonic on each string, try to get them exactly in tune [10:54] Urchlay: I know, i do it every time i change strings [10:54] you shouldn't have to do it every time you change strings, necessarily [10:54] unless you're changing gauges [10:54] I just bought a new set of elixir strings. :p [10:54] ...only you can't actually play them both. My ears are just not sensitive enough to get that exactly right (I can *do* it, but it's a pain in the arse and I'd rather use a tuner) [10:55] sajes: those are the green coated ones? how do those play? [10:55] Well, im changing brands a lot (since i dont know what i like yet) and they all stretch differently [10:55] Urchlay: Couldn't tell you. They're still in the mail. But they're the more expensive ones. [10:55] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [10:55] draeath: in this case, it's off because I just straightened the neck [10:55] I wanted to buy them locally, but I couldn't find anywhere around here. [10:56] that will do it... [10:56] it desperately needed it though. Was almost unplayable above the 10th fret or so [10:56] hard to get it just right without buzzing on the bass strings [10:57] there's a tiny bit of a buzz on the D string around frets 4 to 6 [10:57] can you hear it through the amp? [10:57] nope [10:57] heh, perfect [10:57] the only effect is that those notes won't sustain as long as they should [10:58] true, but with some subtle compression it shouldn't be too apparent [10:58] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:58] giuppy (n=giuppy@host247-111-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:58] reminds me, I gotta find the power supply for my compressor [10:58] i really live my digitech [10:59] not the perfect sound, but good enough for me and it has all that junk built in [10:59] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [10:59] this one's an alesis half-rack (actually I have 2 of the same model) [10:59] for a learner, can't say no to $1 an effect ;P [10:59] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:59] hey are there any channel for flash programing or queries regarding it ? [10:59] I really don't use effects on bass other than compression [10:59] init[1]: $avr maybe? [10:59] init[1], did you do a search? what irc client do you use? [11:00] yea #avr [11:00] draeath: I think he's talking about macromedia flash web stuff, not blowing firmware :) [11:00] oh, lol [11:00] Flash is the intruder, 'flash' has been around longer :P [11:00] I could be wrong though... [11:01] i tell you what, the gods dont want me to have a working workstation... [11:01] wonder when the first "The Flash" comics were made? Surely they should be counted as the original? [11:02] problem after problem. finally got this xeon board working, but then i've gone through 5 hard drives. then the mirror trouble! [11:02] ouch [11:02] gtl (n=gustavo@189.26.137.182) joined ##slackware. [11:02] draeath: Hope you kept your warranty information. [11:02] its quite hilarious to me how a 4-core (2-chip) xeon is going to be my NOC workstation :D [11:02] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-133-216.aei.ca) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:02] wait, you said you got a 550 response from ftp.osuosl.org? [11:03] i goofed when entering the URL [11:03] ah [11:03] i gave the first dialog the whole URL [11:03] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-130-200.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [11:03] not sure what difference it made but... [11:03] in order to install bluetooth on slackware64, i need bluez-4.41, bluez-firmware-1.2 and bluez-hcidump-1.42 (all latest stable versions) installed, right? [11:04] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [11:04] slackware ships with bluez3 [11:04] ok, so no harm installing bluez4, right? [11:04] So what's fred gonna do now that slackware ships 64-bit? [11:04] i'd try 3 first; 4 had some issues last time [11:05] hmm... ty [11:05] draeath: he's busy working on -compat32 packages for slack64. Other than that I dunno. [11:05] it was added to -current for awhile, and reverted shortly after [11:05] one thing i wonder about [11:05] why do we have seperate USB/PXE media for 32 and 64? [11:05] i merged them on one drive with no problems and just a little renaming (and syslinux.cfg tweakage) [11:06] cause 64-bit installs need a 64-bit kernel, in order to be able to run the 64-bit binaries called by the various doinst.sh scripts, would be my guess [11:06] now, i have "huge.s, hugesmp.s, speakup.s, huge64.s, generic64.s" that i can select [11:06] yea but all thats on there is syslinux, an initrd, and the kernels [11:06] rename the kernels and initrd as needed, and you are golden [11:06] ahh, no root filesystem? in that case I dunno [11:07] size reasons? [11:07] possibly [11:07] i'll check that real quick.... [11:07] Rupp (n=Rupp@c-24-131-125-51.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:07] wouldn't you need two separate busybox environments too ? [11:08] all thst in the initrd [11:08] the 64-bit kernel could run the 32-bit busybox binaries OK [11:08] if you rename them so they can sit side-by-side in the disk image, and just update syslinux.cfg to pass the right one to the right kernel... [11:08] Mind if I ask a question? [11:08] oh, and the combined image is only 45mb [11:08] Rupp: Too late for that, huh? [11:08] Rupp: you mean two questions? [11:09] draeath: have you got it so's you can select 32 or 64 at boot time, and get the correct kernel+initrd loaded, without changing the image? [11:09] yep [11:09] shonudo (n=user@c-76-113-6-156.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:09] muzz2k (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: [11:09] when it boots, i get the normal menu [11:09] if i choose 'hugesmp.s' i get 32-bit with 32-bit initrd [11:09] neat :) [11:09] 'huge64.s' boots 64-bit with 64-bit initrd [11:10] Well can I ask a number of questions until I stop? [11:10] lol [11:10] Rupp: depends :) but sure, why don't you start with your real question [11:10] yea syslinux is the same between the two, so the kernels and initrd are the only differences. just combining them and renaming conficting files (and updating syslinux.cfg) and it magically works [11:11] i edited f2.txt and such for cosmetics, but thats all extra [11:12] Rupp: you may ask, but first you must answer me, these questions: three! [11:12] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:12] or not. just ask :P [11:12] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:12] Vampertest (n=Vamperte@67.192.133.1) joined ##slackware. [11:13] I know this isn't the Slax chat but no one there to help me. Can you tell me why I can hear everything online but can't get sound offline? [11:13] I'm looking for a video, on how to use Slackbuilds [11:14] there a reason you need video? [11:14] sound offline? [11:14] seems like a text subject [11:14] draeath: I'd be interested in messing with that image... got scripts that create it? [11:15] no scripts [11:15] grab the .sh and usb image from the usb-and-pxe installers dir [11:15] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:15] I am new to slackware, and wish to learn the different install option... I am a more visual person... Looked on youtube, and nothing [11:15] what I eventually want is a USB stick that can boot either kernel and install a/ ap/ d/ l/ n/ series from either distro (and maybe x/ and xap/ if they'll fit) [11:15] install it, open the drive and move the syslinux folder, and repeat with the other bit-ness usb image [11:15] Vampertest: what do you have in mind ? [11:15] take my word that the .s and initrd are the only differences, and open syslinux.cfg with an editor... it should be come clear [11:16] I can't play music or hear anything....except when it is an online video or stream [11:16] yeah, I'll figure it out. Was hoping to take the lazy way, is all :) [11:16] Urchlay: now that.... that would be harder . i dont know how you would deal with the packages :D [11:16] besides just manually choosing the source instead of letting it scan [11:16] unfortunately, we have no clue how slax is setup [11:17] oh ok well thanks anyway [11:17] Rupp: could be the sound server locking the hardware [11:17] draeath: I think the slackware64 installer might be smart enough to check for the presence of a slackware64/ directory (instead of the regular slackware/) [11:17] Rupp: Is this during a live session? [11:17] yes [11:17] if not, eh, it's a shell script, would be easy enough to make it do what I want [11:18] oooh yea, i think your right on the smartness part [11:18] Thrice: I will just like to see some videos on how the install options in slackware go through... Its just for complementing what I am reading on different sites, and also what I am testing.... [11:18] be kind of big though. now that they make usb drives larger than DVD-DL, thats not an issue... [11:18] but it wont fit on one peice of optical media [11:18] if it weren't for doinst.sh scripts possibly running the just-installed binaries, I'd try for a 32-bit installer environment that could install either 32-bit or 64-bit OS [11:19] Vampertest: oh, i thought you meant like an alternative install method. http://slackbook.org/html/installation-setup.html has a few screenshots [11:19] ehh, actually. If you leave the sources off, you could squeeze all of slackware32 and 64 package sets on one DVD (especially if you leave kdei off as well) [11:19] but I was talking about a USB stick, not a DVD [11:19] Rupp: I'll have to agree with draeth on that...sounds like a hardware conflict [11:20] Thrice: I am interested is in the package management (installing applications, etc... ) [11:20] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) joined ##slackware. [11:20] wow my install blew up [11:21] the emacs package failed, and all my TTYs dies [11:21] is anyone having issues with the new xorg in current64 and the newest nvidia drivers? [11:21] outch [11:21] Yeah there has to be a conflict somewhere [11:21] every time i go to read a man page, xterm or something kills my x server [11:21] and since the ttys are gone, i cant check dmesg [11:22] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:22] any one good with parsers (bison) [11:22] even the "press enter to activate this console" consoles are shot? [11:22] yea i was chatting with you [11:23] d'oh [11:23] (ssh out, and running irssi in screen there) [11:23] can anyone help to solve some bison conflicts [11:23] Rupp: is alsamixer included with that distro? [11:23] zeroXzero: Why don't you just ask your question rather than beat around the bush? :o [11:23] im gonna be right pissed if its another bad drive [11:24] draeath: I've had bad luck with dvd drives too. 3 drives in a row. :( [11:24] Can't get any of them to open anymore. [11:24] yeah but only through terminal. It comes with kmix but it never shows my driver as loaded [11:24] ah im having hard drive problems [11:24] nachox (n=nacho@201.255.178.110) joined ##slackware. [11:24] installing over the net, no media [11:24] sajes: like, the door won't open? WTF happened? [11:24] gone through 5 drives now [11:25] crappy things, over 30,000 hours each [11:25] draeath: Oh, I see. I did that the other day with my eee. (installing over ftp) [11:25] ProTip: Superglue is not good for cleaning your optical drives. [11:25] oh? which eee? [11:25] Think there is going to be 2 dvd ISOs now? one for 64 and one for reg? or think it'll fit on a single dvd? dvd iso is already 4gig ish.. but source obviously won't need to be duplicated.. [11:25] ive got a 1000H [11:25] Urchlay: Like, you push the button and the tray doesn't open and it makes a sound that sounds like "cauch". [11:25] draeath: 1000HA. [11:25] Wescotte: from what I hear, there will be 2 isos, but only one DVD, a double-sided one [11:25] Rupp: if you load your driver,what happens? [11:25] Wescotte, probably [11:25] anything not working sajes? [11:25] sajes, I have a rule similar to :a|ab|b|ba ....and "ab" and "a" is giving a reduce/reduce conflict [11:26] Wescotte: and yes, the sources will be duplicated (one set on each side of the disc) [11:26] Urchlay: ah ok makes sense I guess [11:26] er, each side of the disK? [11:26] are you talking about layer breaK? [11:26] you can have a single ISO9660/UDF span over the break [11:26] draeath: no. A "flippy" disc, 4G on each side [11:27] eew [11:27] MLanden: It shows up as loaded through alsaconf and everything. I can adjust through alsa mixer and hear the volume change up and down even though it is dead air. So I know it works [11:27] take it up with the management, I'm just repeating what I heard :) [11:27] draeath: As far as I've tested, it's working fine. I had everything working on Gentoo, so that means it's possible in slackware too. :o [11:27] and where are we going to buy these dual-sided DVDRs to burn? [11:27] well in that case you would have two Iso anyway [11:27] yes [11:27] Rupp (n=Rupp@c-24-131-125-51.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:27] zeroXzero: No idea. I'm still growing my UNIX beard. :^) [11:27] you'd just use normal DVDRs and burn two of them [11:28] (or only one, whichever one you need) [11:28] my guess is you can build a single 9gig ISO too [11:28] Rupp (n=Rupp@c-24-131-125-51.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:28] whoops got disconnected [11:28] the flippy DVD I'm talking about is the one you buy from slackware.com (pressed, not burned) [11:28] Probably [11:28] draeath: There's dual-layer dvd's available on the internet. They're double the price and you can't write on them with marker, so I stay away from them. [11:28] i got my dual-arch USB stick set up, im sure i could manage a combined DVD [11:28] like those movies that have widescreen on one side and pan-and-scan on the other [11:29] does rock-ridge allow symlinks on iso media? [11:29] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:29] believe so, yes [11:29] ahah! [11:29] the source would only take up 'one' spot [11:29] they may not actually appear as symlinks when you ls, but they function the same way [11:29] i think i could hack together a slackware 32 and 64 dvd image [11:30] i wouldn't understand why you'd want two installers on one DVD [11:30] yah, that's exactly what I was talking about, except I wanted to do it on a USB stick [11:30] maybe Patrick will change the installer so that it asks you when you boot it up [11:30] TwinReverb: you know debian has a 3-arch disk? and I love it! [11:30] or separate the two into separate DVDs [11:30] single CD to install 32, 64, or PPC. its handy [11:30] 3 arch? [11:30] TwinReverb: So you don't need two different dvd's in your cd binder. [11:30] oh [11:30] MLanden: thats why think there is a confict error just like you said [11:31] TwinReverb: the official ISOs will be one physical DVD, with two ISOs on it (one on either side)... or anyway that's what it sounded like when Pat was in here t'other day [11:31] sajes, as it is, patrick went with the new compression algorithm because things would not fit on a single DVD. do we really think that if he changed algorithms to fit one on a DVD that two will fit? granted, if you didn't include /source it probably would fit, but still [11:32] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:32] Urchlay, that i can understand, one DVD but double-sided [11:32] sajes: also having one DVD might decrease shipping costs [11:32] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.128.52) joined ##slackware. [11:32] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [11:32] ah the xz format? [11:32] <_alisonken1churc> and one dvd has both slack32 and slack64 :) [11:32] TwinReverb: Dual layer discs can hold 8G, IIRC. [11:32] but im talking about using a DVD-DL [11:32] has anyone in here ever actually needed /source ? [11:32] 9.2 G, works out to about 8gb [11:33] sajes, i know [11:33] Rupp: could be or that distro is flooding one of ALSA's hw channels [11:33] TwinReverb: yes [11:33] now dual layer, i.e. pick which one to boot, might make sense to me, so that they acted like two separate DVDs [11:33] TwinReverb: So it'd be easy to fit two distributions on one dvd. [11:33] draeath, what did you need /source for? [11:33] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.183) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:33] TwinReverb: needed to recompile something with extra options [11:33] number_three_ (n=chatzill@adsl-76-240-222-93.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:34] i forget what it was, but it was handy to have it like that [11:34] TwinReverb: I've modified the sources and built custom packages from them before, so yes... but usually it's quicker/easier to just download the sources from a mirror, instead of searching my disorganized DVD collection to find the disc [11:34] draeath, just asking because i could not figure out why people needed that [11:34] Urchlay, well you could cp the .iso to the drive and loop mount it, but that would be silly imho [11:34] (download just the bits I need, I mean) [11:34] TwinReverb: I've done that too [11:34] besides, sometimes by then the package has increased in version... [11:34] TwinReverb: plus theres the whole audit/accountability thing [11:35] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:35] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) joined ##slackware. [11:35] MLaden: I had to find a post from 2002 on some obscure board just figure out what my driver was lol [11:35] you may not NEED it, but you might need to HAVE it [11:35] i can't use my arrow keys in konsole, it crashes my x server [11:36] MLaden: the only problem is that alsa recognizes it but kmix doesn't. [11:36] manwichmakeameal: Pastebin your xorg log. [11:36] double ouch [11:36] sajes, fit this on two dvd's. [11:36] Rupp: hear ya....kde 3.5.10,right? [11:36] Rupp just so you know... [11:36] Rupp pcidatabase.com combined with lspci... [11:36] vdv (n=vdv@62.217.159.183) joined ##slackware. [11:36] jeev: ... Not the blackbird discussion again. :( [11:36] draeath, well yeah but that's for businesses right? [11:36] is fglrx driver incompatible with linux 2.6.30? [11:36] nope [11:36] yosi (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [11:36] thats why i couldn't send it, my upload is capped! [11:37] if you have your vendor and product ID, (which lspci will give you) you can look up what exactly it is [11:37] and there are comments that usually tell you about linux support [11:37] Nick change: yosi -> brklynRednek [11:37] number_three__ (n=chatzill@adsl-76-252-51-183.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:37] jeev: That's epic funny. What were you trying to send? [11:37] there's another for USB, i forget what its called [11:37] vdv: that wasn' [11:37] wasnt an answer for you, sorry [11:37] you know. the blackbird effect. [11:37] bad timing [11:38] Simbioz (n=simbiozz@190.96.33.221) joined ##slackware. [11:38] Urchlay: the bad package from earlier has spread to that mirror now too [11:38] can someone look at that? [11:38] @ sajes: http://pastebin.com/m52829f4d [11:38] draeath: redownloading same URL as before... [11:38] wait this time its the i486 package. wierd [11:39] is anybody here who use fglrx with 2.6.30 kernel? [11:39] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:39] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:39] draeath: you know what, earlier, I completely missed the existence of the i686 package [11:39] vdv: have you tried the xorg ATI driver ? [11:40] manwichmakeameal: I don't see anything in there that indicates something troublesome. Was there any errors in the console from startx? Or were you using xdm? [11:40] draeath: I was looking at the i486 package and going "yep, it looks fine to me" [11:40] guys i try to use radeonhd on slack 12.2 and i cant....any help? http://pastebin.ca/1460066 [11:40] yea the xz archive is corrupt [11:40] the i486 from osuosl, from tds.net and easynews.com it was the i686 [11:40] thrice`: it works for me in general, but there's unpleasant bug in it for my card [11:40] something funny going on with this new compression? [11:40] draeath: which package ? [11:40] the md5s are good, but the archive itself isn't. I can't check the .asc [11:40] no, no errors. i can ssh into the box when it does it, but there is nothing in dmesg or the xorg.log [11:41] when i switch to X back and forth, screen freezes [11:41] thrice`: ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-current/slackware/a/kernel-modules-2.6.29.4-i486-2.txz [11:41] killing X with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace doesn't help [11:41] draeath: the md5sum matches CHECKSUMS.md5... and the signature verifies.. and tar doesn't gripe about it [11:41] thrice`: and on two other mirrors, the -smp/i686 version of that was bad [11:41] manwichmakeameal: You mean you can't switch to a VT after it crashes? [11:41] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:42] wtf is going on!? [11:42] i think this thing is haunted [11:42] i think im gonna put 12.2 on and see if that at least lets me install it [11:42] re-downloading the i486 pkg [11:42] unlucky 13 working its magic [11:42] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) joined ##slackware. [11:42] i say skip 13 go straight to 14 :) [11:43] wow, now random crashing of the x server [11:43] Rupp (n=Rupp@c-24-131-125-51.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:43] I just did xz -d kernel-modules-smp-2.6.29.4_smp-i686-2.txz , and it worked fine [11:43] 13 is a number. There's nothing unlucky about it. [11:43] Vampertest (n=Vamperte@67.192.133.1) left irc: "used jmIrc" [11:43] and tar extracted perfectly [11:43] i think maybe i have some corruption problems on my hardware [11:43] Rupp (n=Rupp@c-24-131-125-51.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:43] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-current/slackware/a/ works perfect. I suspect if I try another mirror, it'll work fine too [11:43] gtl (n=gustavo@189.26.137.182) left irc: "Leaving" [11:44] yes thats the version [11:44] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:44] i has a suggestion [11:44] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [11:44] sajes: no, i can't switch. i can't even ctrl+alt+backspace and kill it [11:44] instead of just skipping the package, if a remote-fetched package fails in the installer [11:44] number_three__ (n=chatzill@adsl-76-252-51-183.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:44] ask to retry retreival and install again [11:44] draeath: I just actually installed the package (with "installpkg -root /tmp/a" to avoid breaking anything) and it worked fine [11:44] instead of saying "oh, this broke. you might not be able to boot" [11:44] manwichmakeameal: do sysrq commands work? [11:45] draeath: the better method is to just sync the tree locally [11:45] not sure what that is [11:45] thrice`: i only have this 128mb flash drive. [11:45] for example, I keep slackware-current at /home/ftp/slackware64/ , and point the installer at it (since my /home is separate) [11:45] guys which files must i have on /root when i type ls -la .....i want to rm the files which maked when i run startx with root account....? [11:45] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:46] made* [11:46] thrice`: i would do that, but then i have the chicken-egg issue of installing FROM the target partition [11:46] manwichmakeameal: sysrq+r+e+i+s+u+b should reboot the system. sysrq is the print screen key. [11:46] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [11:46] hold down alt with sysrq [11:46] sajes: what an interesting combination of keys [11:46] unless that's changed in the past year or 2 [11:46] draeath: Indeed. [11:46] remember: "raising skinny elephants is utterly boring"!! [11:46] Urchlay: You're right, I just forgot to mention it. :p [11:47] sajes: when i ssh into the box it works just fine, all commands work. i just have to reboot it to get an x server. even tried going to init 1 and back, but no avail [11:47] good thing you don't have one of those shoddy keyboard controllers who dont let you use more than 4 at once [11:47] draeath: You don't press them all at once. [11:47] MLanden: yes thats the version. I will try to figure it out but thanks for the suggestions and a reason it could not be working [11:47] oh... [11:47] draeath: alt+sysrq, hit r, release r, hit e, release e, and continue. ^_> [11:47] Each letter gives a different command. [11:48] I always used to use s s s u b [11:48] manwichmakeameal: Well, at least it means that you aren't getting a kernel lockup. [11:48] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:48] but haven't had to use alt-sysrq in eons now [11:48] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [11:48] sounds like your display adapter is locking up [11:48] Urchlay: Me neither, luckily. [11:49] BP{k}: can you look at http://lists.opensuse.org/radeonhd/2009-01/msg00126.html [11:49] Rupp just check the webdire draeath suggested(pcidatabase.com) and check google on alsa hw mixer..good luck [11:49] s/webdire/website [11:49] vdv: done. [11:49] sajes: isn't really luck, it's the fact that I don't have a job that involves squishing linux down to fit on a 16 meg flash device any more :) [11:50] baccardi (n=nera@78-58-204-167.static.zebra.lt) joined ##slackware. [11:50] Rupp: BTW,what is the sound card/chip? [11:50] baccardi (n=nera@78-58-204-167.static.zebra.lt) left ##slackware. [11:51] shonudo (n=user@c-76-113-6-156.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:51] Urchlay: they still make flash chips that small, in masse? [11:51] good question,draeath [11:52] MLanden ess1869 is the legacy driver, the soundcard is a "yamaha 128" [11:52] ancient! [11:52] damn...that's a Blast from the Past..lol [11:52] ess audiodrive :! [11:52] thats what I said [11:52] vdv: so .. uhm .. was there anything remotely interesting in that link? [11:52] my desktop is over 10 years old [11:52] lol [11:52] number_three_ (n=chatzill@adsl-76-240-222-93.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:53] yea ill say [11:53] i remember booting dos to play doom with one of those sound cards [11:53] draeath: no idea. Those were considered decently large back then though (boss kept trying to push for using 8M instead to save money) [11:53] BP{k}: that's my post; i have that problem on my laptop [11:53] Mobility Radeon HD 3650 [11:54] vdv: again .. "and?" [11:54] shame we don't have a decent open graphics card (yet) [11:54] still waiting on those ATI drivers to get cleaned up, or that open graphics card to get produced [11:54] 1) that's opensuse .. which I don't use 2) that is Radeon .. which I don't use 3) that's on an older version of xorg .. then slackware uses. [11:54] BP{k}: i thought, maybe you have any ideas :) [11:54] hey the computer works I can't complain to much. can't play wmv or flash videos in windows though [11:54] oh thats a shame [11:55] :P [11:55] ehm. You can't play "Windows MoVie" files in Windows? [11:55] vdv: perhaps you should ask better questions. :P [11:55] BP{k}: i use slackware [11:55] not enough horsepower i would bet [11:55] yeah not enough horsepower [11:55] i remember when WMV came out. I thought it was horridly inneficient and bloated [11:55] and i still think so [11:55] vdv: which version of slackware? [11:56] you're still right [11:56] BP{k}: well, 12.1 [11:56] xvid and h.264 blow it away now :D [11:56] if you're complaining about xorg, update to the latest [11:56] BP{k}: maybe it will be better for me to use proprietary driver? [11:56] "xorg from 2 years ago sucks!" [11:56] i got windows xp down to 330mb fully installed and stuff was just looking for a new challenge [11:57] how to get version of Xorg? X -version? [11:57] Rupp: want a challenge? [11:57] comp_ (n=comp_@89.137.6.138) joined ##slackware. [11:57] it's sily for you to ask a quesiton, and then answer it [11:57] do Linux From Sratch with the "package users" hint [11:57] vdv: perhaps it will be. it will also be better to upgrade to a later version of slackware :P [11:57] dreath: not this stuff no way [11:57] heh [11:57] draeath: I'm building LFS right now. :p. No package management ftw. [11:58] I am to new. Actually intimidated by it when I shouldn't be [11:58] sajes: let me link a hint file for you to read. quite a neat way of 'managing' 'packages' [11:58] sajes: how do you plan on updating applications ? [11:58] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:58] thrice`: magically. [11:58] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/more_control_and_pkg_man.txt [11:59] sure, keeping ALL tarballs around and hoping they support make uninstall is awesome [11:59] only install applications that are so perfect, they'll never need updating! [11:59] check that system i just linked to thrice [11:59] what's the latest version of Xorg? [11:59] install locations are set to a specific user/group and made sticky, users/groups are made for packages and tehy are added to the installer group... [11:59] well you can install a very minimal slackware to be your base system for an LFS style build [11:59] that way you have package management, sort of [11:59] end result is they can install, but can't stomp on other 'package's files [12:00] actually I was gonna compile mozilla code to make my own browser [12:00] i.e. pkgutils so you can makepkg and removepkg [12:00] and you can easily search through the drive and see what files a given makefile put down [12:00] Rupp: webkiting? [12:00] thrice`: it can easily be adapted to other linux distros too :D [12:00] draeath: that's ancient. also, if it works, why does EVERY distro provide a package manager ? [12:00] one of these days I'm going to hack on netbsd pkgsrc some, make it create slackware packages instead of its own format [12:01] its interesting to go through the process and see what overwrites other files and changed permissions all willy-nilly [12:01] the idea behind computers was to make our lives easier, not more difficult [12:01] so long as it is stable and secure, easy is good [12:01] thrice`: the ideaof the distro package managers is 'build once, install many' [12:01] jplcrd (i=1000@81.84.168.60) joined ##slackware. [12:01] hence package managers [12:01] netbsd got some good stuff in its old repositories [12:01] MLanden: I had downloaded nearly everything but then I said it would be to much work. I do make skins and stuff for K-Meleon and miranda im [12:02] Anyone here playing Alien Arena? :P [12:02] hear ya,rupp [12:02] thrice`: anyways. i just went through that with recent versions of things. it may be ancient, but it still works! [12:03] anshulk (n=chatzill@123.237.2.61) joined ##slackware. [12:03] Nick change: draeath -> draeath[away] [12:03] Hey ppl [12:03] MLanden: nearly 500mb of stuff just to get started on it haha [12:03] the point of LFS isn't really to run it as your main OS, it's to learn how Linux OSes are put together... it does a good job of that IMO (sometimes glosses over some details though) [12:03] The official slackware/d/pkg-config-0.23-i486-2.tgz has an error.... Where do I report it? [12:04] cool,rupp [12:04] anshulk: email volkerdi@slackware.com [12:04] Thanks Urchlay [12:04] anshulk: email Pat, but be SURE it's a bug first :) [12:04] (the slackware web site would have told you that, too) [12:04] Umm... i should probably confirm it here then... [12:04] usr/lib/pkgconfig/pm-utils.pc [12:04] yeah, don't be the boy who cried wolf... [12:05] Line 9 [12:05] imo i think we need atleast an unofficial bug tracking system [12:05] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.128.52) left irc: "Leaving" [12:05] anshulk: are you on 12.2 ? [12:05] says pm_powerhooks=${pm_libdir)/power.d [12:05] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-128-52.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:05] instead of pm_powerhooks=${pm_libdir}/power.d [12:05] MLanden I have been removing and packing dlls of every program I install to make them smaller. I guess everyone here does the same [12:05] ) instead of } [12:05] Yep on 12.2 [12:05] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-128-52.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Client Quit [12:05] Rupp: too many times [12:06] thrice`: yea... [12:06] anshulk: ok, that's a) not a pkg-config package, b) an official pm-utils bug, and c) fixed in the pm-utils version in -current [12:06] anshulk: that's been fixed in -current... you sure 12.2's patches/ directory doesn't have a fixed pkg? [12:06] Shouldn't there be a patch in the slackware 12.2 official patches.. [12:06] oh [12:06] slapt-get isnt picking it up... [12:06] there should be... there might be (I haven't looked, have you?) [12:06] let me be sure... [12:07] well, Pat typically patches "bugs" for slackware-bugs, not individual application bugs [12:07] otherwise patches/ would be huge [12:07] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:07] MLanden: thats like in my windows people tell me there is no way I only have 10 system services running when they have over 100 [12:07] Nick change: draeath[away] -> draeath [12:07] MLanden: just crap you don't need [12:07] yes but this one sort of leaves slack 12.2 not properly functional right? [12:08] Rupp: true [12:08] K.. so it's not in patches... [12:08] Urchlay: interesting how 12.2 is just working now. wonder why -current was giving me so many issues installing [12:08] Is this worth reporting? [12:08] also saves on troubleshooting down the line [12:08] vdv: 12.2 has Xorg 1.4.2 -current has xorg 1.6.1 (IIRC) [12:08] because it's not a slacwkare bug [12:08] anshulk: if there's no updated package, nothing stops you from just editing the file and fixing it yourself [12:09] MLanden: I would try other distros and stuff but I am really limited do to my hardware [12:09] no, I wouldn't report; pat will say "it's fixed in -current, and it's a pm-utils issue." [12:09] Urchlay: done that... [12:09] anshulk: you're good to go then [12:09] muzz2k (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:09] Rupp: hear ya [12:09] thrice`: then i woudl asky wy its not in 12.2/updates [12:09] since its a bug with a fix... [12:09] BP{k}: is there any easy way to update Xorg, without migrating to 12.2? [12:09] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:10] draeath: because, if he updated packages to all applications which "fix bugs," he'd be maintaining a TON of stuff. [12:10] thrice`: This bug sort of makes pkg-config exit with 1 on every use [12:10] It's not security but its critical [12:10] i dont' want to sound jerk-ish, but that kind of comes with the territory of running a distro [12:11] seriously, it's been that way for 6 months or so [12:11] BP{k}: feel that updating only radeonhd version won't solve my problem [12:11] anshulk: every use? [12:11] Rupp: with older systems,it does present a fun challenge to get them somewhat working with a modern OS [12:11] he definitely knows about it, since rworkman reported and fixed it for pm-utils [12:11] I think so [12:11] Let me check [12:11] mib_4krua8 (i=74446330@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f29adc0a4c91c152) joined ##slackware. [12:11] anshulk: I just sshed into my 12.2 laptop, confirmed it has the bug, and ran "pkg-config --libs gtk+". It worked fine and exited with 0 status [12:11] anshulk: no, it doesn't. applications trying to SEARCH for pm-utils through pkg-config will report incorrectly. pm-utils still functions completely fine [12:12] k note every use [12:12] but the most common use [12:12] "pkg-config --libs pm-utils" fails [12:12] as expected [12:12] and how many applications try that? [12:12] pkg-config --list-all [12:12] MLanden: I know most people would say linux sucks because there sound wasn't working right. Its my hardware limitations why blame anything else [12:12] also fails [12:12] it doesn't fail to list all the packages [12:12] do you understand when pkg-config is called, anshulk ? [12:12] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.86.155.1) left irc: "Leaving" [12:12] which at least the miro config script calls [12:12] Rupp: but it provides a good learning curve [12:12] (although you're right in that it returns with exit status 1) [12:13] mib_4krua8 (i=74446330@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f29adc0a4c91c152) left ##slackware. [12:13] Urchlay: which would trip a configure script [12:13] most configure scripts won't do a --list-all [12:13] agree [12:13] miro does [12:13] which doesn't mean it's not a problem of course [12:13] number_three (n=chatzill@adsl-69-219-229-8.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] ... you know something is wrong with you when you've memorized the steps on opening a LUKS mount and reading the LVs from it [12:14] vote: report or not? [12:14] axius (n=tty@92.82.67.21) joined ##slackware. [12:14] anshulk: don't report (he already knows about it) [12:14] definitely not [12:14] MLanden: exactly you should have seen when I tried installing an internal modem in ubuntu. I tried for 5 days reading and going over this command and that command. I never got it installed but I learned basic commands [12:14] if he already knows and doesn't issue a patch, he's already made up his mind... reporting it again won't help [12:14] winmodem! [12:14] The vote is thus unanimously concluded... We thank the jury for their time... motion dismissed. [12:15] i really really really really really wish vendors would release hardware info. [12:15] yes draeath [12:15] true,draeth [12:15] whats fun is when people give linux the finger when its not linux's fault [12:15] ATI and intel have :) [12:15] thats what I said draeath [12:16] thrice`: well intel's hardware sucks :) [12:16] not for 2D [12:16] my thinkpad is 100% intel, and works flawlessly [12:16] explain that to my other workstation that uses the CPU to update the screen... [12:16] with an intel chip [12:16] I use k-meleon browser in windows and you have to set it up to your own standards. People are to lazy to do it and complain because something doesn't work right [12:16] its not the browser lol [12:17] its windows, dont have it and dont want it [12:17] i hav ea copy laying around [12:17] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060214]" [12:17] win "modem"... it's not really a modem (it doesn't modulate and demodulate) [12:17] i tend to use it for games, SOME music production stuff, and very little else [12:17] it's just a crappy mono sound card [12:17] Urchlay I have a sb live audigy 2 ZS [12:17] vdv: in your case, no. [12:18] not crappy [12:18] Urchlay, i think they only have a dsp, but the rest is done by the software [12:18] the last pre-'xi-fi' that has hardware DSP, but doesn't have crappy AC'97 [12:18] I was talking about the winmodem, not the actual sound card... [12:18] fun to find a modem that is CallerID enabled [12:18] draeath: I've got a "live value" PCI card from those days [12:18] bleh [12:18] the value is to sound cards what internal winmodems are to modems [12:19] this thing is a beast. ICs all over it :D [12:19] my computer has a hand crank to start it [12:19] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [12:19] nah, because it actually does work in linux without proprietary drivers [12:19] well, it has AC'97, not proper I2C [12:19] so you get lots of noise :P [12:19] BP{k}: can i just remove all old Xorg related packages and install corresponding packages from 12.2? [12:19] i have a Trendnet external hardware serial modem [12:19] draeath: lol [12:19] Rupp: http://catb.org/jargon/html/G/grind-crank.html [12:20] are xi-fi cards linux supported now? [12:20] draeath: the live value is only being used for playback, and it at least sounds better than most motherboard ac97 chips [12:20] Urchlay: very true [12:20] wait, it uses the emu10k driver, that's ac97? [12:20] Urchlay: ac'97 hardware chips [12:20] yuck [12:21] Urchlay:: haha [12:21] axius (n=tty@92.82.67.21) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:21] yea, the one i have was the first to drop those, but the last before the at-the-time unsupported XiFi series [12:21] so when i got it, it was the 'sweet spot' [12:21] these days, for music production, everyone seems to be using outboard USB audio interfaces [12:22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audigy#Sound_Blaster_Audigy_2_ZS [12:22] got an opinion on that? (I know nothing about using a PC for studio purposes...) [12:22] well, i know little of it for linux [12:22] on the windows side, its fine... but USB cant handle much traffic [12:22] nothing beats ASIO over a fast bus [12:23] 2ms latency... that kind of nice [12:23] MLanden: It is fun trying to see what you can get to work on old stuff. This computer is meant for win98. I had to find a video driver that wasn't supposed to work and it did [12:23] and thats at 96,000 24-bit [12:23] (which is what my audigy gives me) [12:23] draeath: drool..LOL [12:23] since i do more than listen (i do synthesis stuff) its very nice :D [12:23] yeah, USB seems like it would make the latency worse [12:24] latency isnt too bad, but it just cant handle the high bitrate and sample rates [12:24] Rupp: true [12:24] keoni (n=chadh@208-106-15-141.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) joined ##slackware. [12:24] if I were doing anything, it would be recording myself playing bass & guitar (and some kind of software drum machine replacement too I suppose) [12:24] yea, recording sucks for me [12:24] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.233.108) joined ##slackware. [12:24] worst-case scenario would be an acoustic guitar with a mic [12:25] im not about to drop over $200 for something that doesn't sound like a transformer when you record :D [12:25] but my guitar effects box has ASIO ouput over USB. it's passable [12:25] MLanden: one site is a bunch of people that refuse to give up win98 and have made a bunch of stuff work for it that isn't supposed to. [12:25] 1/4 second latency, but it sounds clean [12:25] Rupp: that's devotion [12:25] I've got a standalone hard disk recording unit, but it's 4 tracks (including the crappy "you can record 4 tracks, but only up to 2 at a time" like old 4-track cassette units had) [12:26] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:26] hah [12:26] 1/4 sec latency for a guitar effect would drive me insane [12:26] but thats on the computer side [12:26] if its just recording, thats fine [12:26] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [12:27] what if you've recorded a bass, and you're playing it back while laying down the guitar track? [12:27] record to a different file, and sync it later [12:27] MLanden: I figure to go to linux and use it for the net and other little things. There are things I can't do here though [12:27] ehhh [12:27] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] that sounds like a huge pain in the ass [12:27] not too bad [12:28] seriously. just have a common sound/note/whatever at the start. measure the difference, and add that much silence to the new track [12:28] audacity can do it easily enough [12:28] the software's not smart enough to delay playback of the existing track by however much latency you have? [12:28] Rupp: just learn with open mind [12:29] the latency is from guitar box -> PC [12:29] ah, so the PC doesn't know about it [12:29] ouch [12:29] right. [12:29] well, it does [12:29] MLanden: just weird going from being asked all the questions to asking all of a sudden [12:29] it actually gets a measure through ASIO [12:29] but hte issue is the signal comes from you. theres no way it can process it and give it back at the same instant your prividing the input [12:29] giuppy (n=giuppy@host219-61-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:30] Rupp: doming from windows to linunx,right? [12:30] just easier to always record to a new track and sync after the fact [12:30] s/doming/coming [12:30] but that means no live playing :./ [12:30] suck [12:30] depends what you do [12:30] where can i browse all packages included into 12.2? [12:30] I'd be better off with 8-track reel-to-reel [12:31] since i do synth stuff with a pattern system, its fine for me [12:31] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [12:31] MLanden: yeah thats what I mean. [12:31] ( i use Reason and/or FL Studio) [12:31] Rupp: hear ya [12:31] I do a lot of computer stuff that isn't music-related, and a lot of musical stuff that isn't computer-related. Somehow it never occurred to me to combine the two [12:31] musically, I'm an analog kind of guy [12:31] heh, all digital here [12:32] Urchlay: lol....anti-cyborg [12:32] (heh, and right now my bass strings are boiling on the stove...) [12:32] i can link you to some of the stuff ive done, but its all old crap [12:32] i never finish anything [12:32] know the feeling [12:32] dance-industries.com, and search for the artists 'x0563511' and 'draeath' [12:33] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:33] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left ##slackware ("init 0"). [12:33] I think one problem people have when they use linux and have a problem is they look for the answer in that distro only. [12:33] axius (n=axius@92.82.67.21) joined ##slackware. [12:34] Rupp: that does happen [12:34] why? A lot of problems can be distro-specific [12:34] what doesnt help, is people refuse to help other distro people [12:34] they don't even hear the question... [12:34] why should they ? [12:34] i heard from the slax people you refuse to talk about it [12:34] Well if your asking about a kernel module, why does the distro matter? thats kernel [12:34] thats why I was a little apprehensive [12:34] someone came in last night with a question on why Policykit and SELinux weren't working with a program thehy were running [12:35] Rupp: a lot of the time, that's exactly what will happen... "Oh, you're using slax? GTFO!" [12:35] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@97-86-234-223.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:35] it's not the question sometimes but how the question is presented [12:35] So i guess I asked it right lol [12:35] ah shit i gotta leave for a while. one of our DCs just "disappeared" [12:36] if someone comes in here with a slax-specific question (or a problem that, on further investigation, turns out to be slax-only), most of us won't go too far into slax-land to help [12:36] number_three (n=chatzill@adsl-69-219-229-8.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [12:36] true [12:36] I mean I've never used it, I can only help with things that are distro-neutral [12:38] i didn't keep asking about it. you said what could be the problem and I stopped talking. then i went on the next topic [12:39] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.132.16) joined ##slackware. [12:39] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) joined ##slackware. [12:40] nah, nobody's complaining about you [12:41] seems my issue with x and nvidia has to do with my config file. deleted it, now my arrows work in konsole. maybe something to do with xinerama? [12:41] except your neighbors, who think your hand-crank needs oiling, so it won't keep them awake all night :) [12:42] what did you use to make a xorg.conf? nvidia-xconfig? or X -configure ? [12:42] lol [12:42] used my old one from 12.2 (same machine) [12:42] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Success [12:42] just sucks, cause now i'm down to one monitor [12:43] make a new one with either one of the commands in my previous comment, then try it [12:43] I love it how one radio goes down, and it looks like 1/4 the network went with it :/ [12:43] Urchlay: they tried that on the XO project [12:43] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [12:43] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:44] using those handcrank generators like for SW radios,I mean [12:44] actually saw a picture of an XO laptop for the first time this week [12:44] it looks like it fails at its goals [12:45] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) joined ##slackware. [12:45] supposed to be made for kids... but it looks like that rotating screen and the wireless antennas are fragile, not kid-friendly at all [12:46] if i want to update Xorg, which packages should i select? [12:46] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:46] i want to remove packages related to Xorg [12:46] Urchlay: dunno...never seen one in person,so I can't comment [12:46] vdv: .. I wouldn't if I were you. [12:46] (maybe I'm wrong, maybe they're super-reinforced & unbreakable, but to me a better design would be to leave out the rotating screen, and use the couple pennies saved to give it something it really needs, like more memory or higher-res display) [12:46] and install corresponding packages from 12.2 [12:46] mm the xorg packages you sort of have to remove all of them by hand :) but it's not really suggested [12:47] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [12:47] vdv: sorry but upgrading like that is not really supported [12:47] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:47] how do I install internet explorer? [12:47] maybe install some package manager, for example swaret? [12:47] does that questions get me run out of here lol [12:47] question [12:47] Rupp: what, in linux? google for "ies4linux" [12:48] vdv: good luck. You're on your own. Don't come crying when you break it. [12:48] http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3375/3624994191_fb68ee64f6_b.jpg [12:48] BP{k}: sup :] [12:49] BP{k}: what i should do? just format my current 12.1 installation and install 12.2? [12:49] bbl, off to work:) [12:49] vdv: you could start with something far more important. [12:49] what about all other packages which were installed after 12.1 [12:49] lw0x15: howdy :) nice pic! [12:49] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:49] yeah it was well nice [12:49] i think there is some kind of old car fair [12:50] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [12:50] or something like that [12:50] Urchlay: interesting indeed. I was only kidding but the more ya know [12:50] cause i saw plenty of oldcars [12:50] Rupp: that used to be the only way I could get youtube videos to play in linux [12:50] vdv: you can read all you need to know here: http://sweet.nodns4.us/ [12:51] Urchlay I still have to use it on my laptop for one site I go to. K-Meleon just won't work right [12:51] Hey, what do you guys do for Midi playback? I found http://www.songtrellis.com/sounds/viewer$560 this great website and can't play the files in Audacious automatically. any tips? [12:51] BP{k}: understood [12:51] Rupp: what, in windows? what about firefox or seamonkey for windows? [12:51] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) joined ##slackware. [12:51] firefox for windows seemed to work OK the little bit I ever used it [12:52] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:52] firefox on familiarity [12:52] Urchlay: firefox is so bloated its not funny anymore. K-Meleon is based on the Seamonkey code but without the xul [12:52] Rupp, k-meleon? [12:53] work on sunday? the heathen... [12:53] Urchlay: so any addon you put on it never bloats it in anyway [12:53] crap [12:53] it's only for windows [12:53] it works under wine though [12:53] Rupp you're in the wrong channel to be advocating k-meleon, #windows is thataway ---> [12:54] Rupp: eh, well, I can't live without ad-block. The web is worse than useless without it. [12:54] Rupp, that's crap [12:54] LnxSlck! [12:54] antler, hey =) [12:54] Rupp, FUD [12:54] I didn't advocate it. I was just saying I had to use IE because KM didn't work on a certain site [12:54] firefox works fine right here [12:55] and bloated depends on your hardware anyways [12:55] firefox is a memory hog [12:55] FF is a piece of junk [12:55] regardless of what you have [12:55] vista is bloated but i've seen computers run it faster than xp so oh well [12:55] Rupp, then go fix it or else stfu and use something else. we don't want your FUD. [12:55] try links, lynx, or dillo, (dillo requires fltk) [12:56] I don't mind the FUD [12:57] I still don't knoww hat I said I mention KM then someone asks me about [12:57] the problem is that all web browsers suck, though ;) [12:57] thats all I said [12:57] What do you guys do for Midi? [12:57] ludverc (n=ludverc@dsl91ECD136.pool.t-online.hu) joined ##slackware. [12:57] and seamonkey was never a small program either [12:58] Urchlay: firefox is so bloated its not funny anymore. K-Meleon is based on the Seamonkey code but without the xul [12:58] erisco: what is your soundcard/chip? [12:58] erisco: timidity and either eawpats or freepats [12:58] granted i think most of firefox's problem depends on websites too [12:58] TwinReverb he mentioned why not Seamonkey [12:58] facebook java and myspace java are trash [12:59] i see java_vm taking up almost as much memory and cpu as firefox when i'm on facebook, sadly enough [12:59] I don't want no problems robby [12:59] now firefox could use some cleanup with how it unlocks memory, or so i heard, but then again, it's silly [13:00] Mlanden: Card: HDA NVidia////Chip: Realtek ALC883 [13:00] Urchlay: thanks for those i'll give it a look after talking with Blanden [13:00] Mlanden* [13:01] i timed this laptop's battery power, it lasts an hour before the alarm goes off, and takes about an hour to change [13:01] if anyone is curious, here's how memory is spent on my machine: i have 2GB system RAM. according to top, firefox eats 6.6%, open office 3.6%, skype 2.8%, kontact 2.5%, X 2.4%, audacious 1.7% [13:02] erisco: MLanden is probably talking about getting your card's MIDI hardware to work (a lot of newer/cheaper cards don't even have MIDI)... timidity is a software MIDI player, will work with anything that can play normal audio [13:02] which is better will depend on your needs and your card [13:02] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:02] Hardware midi is for if i'm running//using something like Ardour right? [13:02] erisco: I agree with Urchlay..timidity is the best way of going with that card [13:02] i just don't like it when people are like "___ is bloated as heck" so what? could it be your hardware? could it be configuration? could it be that you need to help them fix it? could it be what you have loaded? [13:03] I barely know anything about ardour [13:03] firefox shouldn't get the blame for facebook or myspace though, their java seems to eat a lot of resources and it appears to come from firefox but i somehow doubt it [13:03] you will lose the "FF is not bloated" battle. it is a complete hog [13:03] i've had their java picture uploaders crash firefox before [13:04] what I mean by "hardware MIDI" is, using your sound card's obnoard MIDI synth hardware (if it has any) for playback, instead of doing synthesis on the host CPU [13:04] stealth- (n=stealth@66.183.233.184) joined ##slackware. [13:04] thrice`, works fine here [13:04] ardour's a PITA to setup with some SB cards [13:04] twinreverb: browsers are so common nowadays it's just a matter of preference i think, unless you want to argue about CLI VS X. I like Seamonkey and Links, but someone else will have something to say about it for sure. [13:04] i use seamonkey to do html editing (WYSIWYG) [13:04] TwinReverb: I agree with you both: Firefox is bloated, but it works anyway (what are all those many megs of memory for, if not to be used?) [13:04] urchlay: got ya, it looks like eawpats is discontinued. freepats is their followup. [13:05] my point isn't whether firefox is bloated, but that you can just use something else, and if it's bloated, go help 'em fix it [13:05] here is what I mean I can have the same load on 4 different browsers at the same time and FF is using twice the amount of memory. then it doesn't dump the memory like it should. [13:05] sQuEE (n=narya@host220.201-253-136.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [13:05] as for not dumping the memory as it should, i agree there, and i believe they are trying to fix that [13:05] mlanden: I tried ardour a while back and wanted to rather shoot myself =) one day i'll understand it htough... [13:05] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.41.42) joined ##slackware. [13:05] thanks guys [13:06] erisco: hear ya [13:06] erisco: sorta. freepats IMO doesn't sound as nice [13:06] Rupp, btw what does "grep tmpfs /etc/fstab" tell you? [13:06] erisco: if you wait a day or two, you can use a slackbuild for eawpats from slackbuilds.org (it's sitting in the "approved for next update" queue) [13:06] TwinReverb: hold on [13:06] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:07] urchlay: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/audio/freepats/ freepats is already up. If it sounds too bad i'll try Eawpats in a few days =) Right now i just NEED something to play midi so i can learn a couple of songs (the easy way) [13:07] fair enough [13:07] freepats is missing some stuff, if you get unlucky some instruments might be silent, but most of the common stuff will play OK [13:08] my only real use for midi these days is music playback for games like Doom or Duke Nukem :) [13:08] It's just bebop charts from http://www.songtrellis.com/sounds/viewer$560 [13:08] I play bass guitar and that website is just amazing, they'll post a chord chart(like a fakebook if anyone knows about that sutff) [13:08] i just don't like those who are rude about F/OSS. seriously, it's FREE. go help 'em fix it, they'd probably appreciate it. [13:09] and also a midi to go with it [13:09] Urchlay: i like to use the sf2 from the new sound blasters [13:09] and you could give back to the community [13:09] erisco: by ear or by note? [13:09] mlanden: what are you refering to? [13:09] erisco: ooh, Thelonius Monk [13:09] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.78.204) joined ##slackware. [13:10] erisco: on hearing music [13:10] mlanden: I can figure out what key it's in by ear, but i can't figure out the chord progression by ear(yet)...i'm still young =) [13:10] mac_s (n=mac@sunrise.pi.net.pl) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:10] UNless it's very simple. like a latin song with 2 chords. [13:10] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [13:11] TwinReverb: doesn't do nothing...........BTW I do testing of browsers [13:11] tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults,size=1% 0 0 [13:11] if you need a midi editor to load it up & look at it, ermmm, hang on while I try to remember the name of the damn thing [13:11] Rupp, "df -h | grep tmpfs" [13:11] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.10.168) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:11] Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on [13:11] tmpfs 21M 0 21M 0% /dev/shm [13:11] Urchlay: that would be cool, i've use Sibelius on the Mac OS9 at school =) [13:11] Nick change: zerox0 -> zeroXzero [13:11] erisco: I was just asking if you can read music, there's nted and rosegarden that can also help [13:12] nted! that's the one! [13:12] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:12] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/nted/ [13:12] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [13:12] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: Success [13:12] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:12] Mlanden: Ohh i can read! I like chorc charts better because I like improv. I rather just know the chord progression =D But yes, i can read enough to learn a "real" song. [13:12] TwinReverb: says the same but 250 twice [13:12] it makes sort of a mess out of the drums I think (I don't read drum sheet music, but what it spits out *can't* be right...) [13:12] Mlanden: http://www.songtrellis.com/picture$818 that's the best =) [13:13] nted's good and light [13:13] erisco: what instrument you play? [13:13] Bass GUitar [13:13] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:13] for about three years but I know a lot of theory that i learned on a piano. [13:13] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [13:13] ahh, welcome to the elite fraternity of slackware-using bass players :) [13:13] Lol! [13:14] (in between typing lines on IRC, I'm trying to fix my fender 5-string...) [13:14] Rupp, your tmpfs shows size 250M and used 250M ? [13:14] Do I want Nted or rosegarden? [13:14] Also, have any of you messed with Ninjam? [13:14] TwinReverb: tmpfs 250M 0 250M 0% /dev/shm [13:14] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Reducing_memory_usage_(Firefox) [13:14] ah [13:15] I never used rosegarden... it's supposed to be a full-featured midi studio-type app [13:15] http://www.ninjam.com/ [13:15] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:15] nted's just kind of a quick & dirty midi editor [13:15] (which is enough for what I needed, convert midi tunes to sheet music) [13:15] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [13:15] Rupp, maybe you could specify size=1% or something so that your memory usage isn't so wasted. this may be why firefox slows down on your machine: too much unused tmpfs, so when firefox digs into memory, your system swaps stuff out, resulting in swap thrash [13:16] erisco: never even heard of it, but ninjam looks interesting [13:16] they say tmpfs usage is dynamic (increases as needed up to half of your RAM, which is the default size it uses) but i've witnessed no tmpfs usage but a drastic free-up of RAM when you specify a smaller size in fstab [13:16] And edit them and such...okay, i'll check out nted because rosegarden DOES look like too much for what i'd be doing. [13:17] "For some samples of how NINJAM can sound, see samples directory. "... and the link is a 404, d'oh! [13:17] Ninjam looks cool i agree, it is too much for me now though. I need tot ake Linux 1 step at a time. [13:17] awww, there is some good stuff on there... [13:17] http://autosong.ninjam.com/ here you go [13:17] s/is/was/ apparently :( [13:17] Urchlay: OUCH...denial on request...:D [13:17] TwinReverb: I am not using firefox right now.. I know what you are saying though. [13:17] ludverc (n=ludverc@dsl91ECD136.pool.t-online.hu) left irc: "Leaving" [13:18] the 2nd link works [13:19] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:19] I suppose with a real ninjam client I could join the server in observer mode, like a quake game? :) [13:19] Lol [13:19] I'd want to play too bad... [13:20] if nothing else it'd let me do my own local mix... this one I'm listening too, you can barely hear the bass or drums [13:20] imho, anyone who lets tmpfs eat half their RAM has no right to complain about the memory usage of any application (short of a run-away program) [13:20] it's probably a very fast learning curve, seeing as how you're playing with people all around the planet of varying skill levels [13:20] turned it up, then this keyboard came in and about blew my eardrums out [13:20] If you find an exceptionally good one let me know Urchlay =D [13:20] Rupp: I only say it is a memory hog becaue I post at the forums that the delopers of KM are. Its a great community there. I am told why firefox has memory issues so bad. [13:20] same thing for someone who does not take steps to make an application use less RAM (as listed on the website i posted, and in other ways, like Xorg) [13:21] should I point out I am running my os in ram [13:21] going to have to show this to this drummer I know, he always wants to jam but never wants to move his drums :) [13:21] If he figured out how to get it working and teaches you then let me know that it's doable! please! [13:21] :) [13:22] TwinReverb: its really bad for the people that write the leaky addons [13:22] if nothing else I probably will do up a slackbuild for the client [13:22] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:22] You're one of them? Awesome! [13:22] Rupp, that much is true [13:22] "one of them"? :) [13:22] I think i might have gotten the client installed actually... [13:22] procon for example is a great add-on for what it does, but it eats RAM like it's going out of stock [13:23] actually I'm just a contributor, not one of the admins :) [13:23] It was a long time ago, all that is left is my "ninjam" folder in "/home/briscoe/work" [13:23] TwinReverb: thats why I said what I said because K-meleon even though it is windows based is is written differently.. The addons that are used are only called on when used and use no memory [13:23] I have too much going on to help out with a project right now. one day... [13:23] thrice`, is it possible to upgrade just pkgutils from -current since it says "noarch" ? [13:23] i love the community aspect of linux =) especially our SLackware family. (that's apparently laden with bass players.) [13:24] bass is a very slack instrument... or it is, if you use light-gauge strings [13:24] thrice`, i'm asking because i'd like access to txz in slackware 12.2 so i can upgradepkg my firefox (since it is also noarch) [13:24] TwinReverb: its just the people that use over 600mb of memory with firefox and still love it that bothers me. [13:25] Urchlay: I have a squire P bass =) it was cheapo and came with a 15 watt amp. It's about time for an upgrade here... my 200 watt amp is at school right now because the OTHER bass player broke our school amp =D [13:25] Rupp, oh well, i have the memory, i can justify it. i would use a different browser on a machine with less RAM anyways [13:25] which is why i said part of this depends on your hardware [13:25] http://www.pcmech.com/article/firefox-3-hogs-memory-like-crazy/ [13:25] granted, i remember being able to tune win 3.11 to work good on a 386 so oh well [13:25] TwinReverb: pkgutils is not enough for xz support. also, patches/ and -current are both at 3.0.10 ; why do you want the one from -current ? [13:26] erisco: I have a squier p-bass, I bought it to learn how to upgrade & repair basses (it's now fretless, has a wooden nut, a schaller bridge, and bassline pickups...) [13:26] shonudo (n=user@c-76-113-6-156.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:26] TwinReverb: uhm .. why would you want ff from .... Yeah exactly what thrice` said. [13:26] WOuld you recommend turning this one into a fretless (to actually play) once i upgrade? or do you like a different model for htat? [13:26] gm145 (n=gm145@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:26] TwinReverb:exactly my computer is old. So i use what I use but becaue of what I know I still use it K-meleon on my laptop [13:27] eh, it's OK as a fretless. If you've already replaced it with something you like, might as well de-fret the squire, especially if you're just learning fretless [13:27] hmm ok maybe it's me, hold on (mine's 3.0.9) [13:27] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.41.42) left irc: ":wq" [13:27] just make sure you fill in the gaps where the frets used to be! (I used a paste made of epoxy and this stuff called microballoons) [13:27] I have yet to buy a new one. I'm thinking of a Gibson model because i've only played Fenders and Jack Cassidy is a devil. [13:28] i see what happened, i had some /home clobber recently [13:28] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) joined ##slackware. [13:28] I've got a bass someone else defretted, he used JB Weld, which seems like it shrank as it dried [13:29] word of advice: if you do defret your squire, definitely use flatwound strings on it afterward (unless you do the Jaco Pastorius boat-epoxy treatment on the fretboard) [13:29] had to use jb weld on a crank case cover on my atv [13:29] or else I would have been stuck lol [13:30] K so Urchlay: I have timidity installed and also I have freepats installed and I added the line "source $basedir/freepats.cfg" to /etc/timidity/timidity.cfg [13:30] and my midi file is playing through but not making sound. [13:30] hmm brb i seem to have some /home clobber due to not using --delete option with rsync [13:30] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [13:30] erisco: did you actually put $basedir literally? AFAIK, it has to be the actual path... [13:30] Lol okay, let me try that. [13:31] actually you can just replace timidity.cfg with freepats.cfg [13:31] on my plugin config page? [13:31] you guys sure know your stuff [13:32] erm. I'm talking about config files, I dunno anything about "pages" you're talking about :) [13:32] Yeah i don't know termonology. I'm using AUdacious to try and play the midi file [13:32] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:32] oh, wait, for timidity to work with nted, you have to run it as a daemon... might be the same way with aud [13:33] I right click, then go Preferences>PLugins>TimidityAudioPLugin>Preferences [13:33] I don't actually have any of the above installed right now or I'd maybe be a little more specific... [13:33] Okay, i'll screw with it and come bug you when i dig my hole too deep [13:33] :) [13:34] I may get timidity + nted going again, to see what its idea of the sheet music for that thelonius monk song looks like... [13:34] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [13:34] (had them working fine on old install, upgraded to 64-bit -current and haven't gotten around to messing with midi again) [13:34] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [13:35] Ohh i haven't touched 64 bit yet. I was running 64 bit Gentoo for my first linux distro though =D [13:35] Rupp: some days anyway :) [13:35] let me screw with it.. [13:35] Urchlay: to smart for me to keep track thats for sure. [13:36] Got it, i changed that line to use crude.cfg instead of freepats/cfg [13:36] freepats.cfg* [13:38] erisco: that's probly all you needed [13:38] I had forgot about crude.cfg... [13:39] Rupp: nah, I don't feel too smart just at the moment. I lost the $%@#^@ tool you use to adjust the trussrod on my fender, and a regular set of allen wrenches doesn't seem to work :( [13:40] bummer [13:40] Urchlay:: you in the US? [13:40] cmair (n=cmair@host21-58-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:40] found the right size wrench, but there's no room to actually turn it (rest of the headstock is in the way) [13:40] Rupp: yah [13:40] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [13:40] Urchlay: just wondered because there are standard and metric allen wrenchs [13:40] Urchlay: I just use the wrong size allen wrench... [13:41] US-made fenders use standard, not metric [13:41] Why would they make hte headstock get in the way? i've only had to mess with my trussrod twice or three times and it was about a year after i bought the instrument. [13:41] at least, my *other* fender does... [13:42] erisco: the tool you actually are supposed to use is about 8 or 10 inches long (long enough to clear the headstock) [13:42] wow, i use the one htat it came with and it is about 4 inches long =p maybe three. [13:42] the tool I'm trying to use (not specifically made for this) is a fold-up set of allen wrenches [13:42] and i trussrodded the hell out of it, my bass has the best action out of anyone i know (not that it's the best bass, just hte best action) and I didn't follow the "1/4 turn" instructions or anything. [13:42] this ain't a standard fender either, it's a Jazz Plus V [13:42] drijen (n=quassel@pool-71-96-1-8.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] (5 strings, with 2 of those little string-spacer thingies on the headstock) [13:43] what colour? =D [13:43] basic black :) [13:43] http://www.ianperge.com/images/pictures/fender.jpgaJazz this is the first image from google [13:44] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:44] that looks exactly like it [13:44] It looks like a slackware... [13:44] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) joined ##slackware. [13:44] except I have a hardshell case instead of a gig bag [13:45] Do you know about the Fender VG? http://www.12fret.com/new/Fender_VG_Stratocaster.jpg someone I know got one recently, unfortunately it's discontinued! =PPP! [13:45] anyway I've had the thing for 5+ years and it's just now needing the neck adjusted [13:45] It looks like a midi guitar and acts like one, but all of the switching is done inside the guitar. [13:45] oh, neat [13:46] Do you have any recordings online Urchlay? [13:46] good luck finding replacement knobs if you ever lose those :) [13:46] not any more [13:46] and honestly the ones that were up before, weren't that great [13:47] I'll send you the shorter of the two that i have http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jGxPYKe5xw&feature=channel_page This is from APril and it's not my youtube account. [13:47] my other fender is one of these, only black: http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/55U-3623.htm [13:48] That's a cool looking guitar. I've bnever seen a "jp" [13:49] drijen (n=quassel@pool-71-96-1-8.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere."). [13:49] midnight_sun (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [13:49] Urchlay: double sweet on your other [13:49] bahaha, that girl going "come to my room", that's hilarious! [13:49] she's our singer, but she doesn't play in any of the recordings that are online. She does piano too but the asian boy is much better =p [13:50] can't see you or the bass, it sounds electric though [13:50] it is [13:50] i can't afford an uprightt =p [13:50] oh, just caught glimpse of your headstock & fingers :) [13:50] I might not be in htis one, we have a version of Moanin' that i really like up, but it's probably about nine minutes long so i wasn't going to send it [13:51] 7 minutes and 5 seconds, i jsut checked. [13:51] I'm at 3:41 [13:51] tooly (n=theo@e178148029.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [13:51] the guy on the drum kit looks like he'd rather be playing nirvana covers :) [13:52] axius (n=axius@92.82.67.21) left irc: "Leaving" [13:52] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:53] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.67.21) joined ##slackware. [13:53] He is very musically inclined, but the better drummer broke his arm in November or something so MIke got to be the drummer this year. [13:53] It was my first year in school band too. i should have joined long before senior yet [13:53] year* [13:53] Channel flood from erisco -- kicking [13:53] I JUST realized we're whoring the whole chat room =) hi guys. [13:53] erisco kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [13:53] lol [13:53] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:53] heh [13:54] Alright! kicked for flooding =D [13:54] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.67.21) left irc: Client Quit [13:54] erisco: breathe between typings...:D [13:54] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [13:55] Urchlay: you there? want to here another one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdrjH1P9weY&feature=channel it's better but long. IDK what kind of time you have. [13:56] Mlanden: sometimes I spell a word wrong and really want to fix it, like this time I said "here' instead of "hear" =) [13:56] Eheh someone said shut up. [13:57] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:57] sorry, da phone rang [13:57] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:57] whoring the channel is OK, if nobody else is using it much... [13:57] Rupp (n=Rupp@c-24-131-125-51.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:58] but I'm about to have to go do stuff :( [13:58] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [13:58] erisco: was just joking [13:59] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [13:59] nheco (n=nheco@201-34-67-28.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:00] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [14:00] fretboard of the 4-string is *filthy* [14:00] wow......... 90000 ramtest errors and its only 66% done.... [14:01] no wonder it wouldnt start up [14:01] straterra: impressive [14:01] Mlanden: even if you weren't I wouldn't have cried about it =) [14:02] stealth-: I'd.. RMA that stuff. [14:02] draeath (i=draeath@unaffiliated/draeath) left irc: "leaving" [14:02] sajes: RMA? [14:02] Return Merchandise A [14:02] oh, its pretty old [14:02] stealth-: Return it to whoever you bought it from and get your money back. Or a replacement. [14:02] I got it second-hand aswell, for free [14:03] He *should* be able to get me a replacement, though. Thats what family is for ;) [14:03] Oh. Guess the only thing you can do is pour gasoline over it and see if anything on it melts. :) [14:03] 300000 errors..... [14:04] stealth-, wow, either the media from which ramtest booted / launched is broken, or your machine is [14:04] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:04] this wouldn't happen to be a computer so advanced that memtest does not yet understand how to properly test it, is it? [14:04] hm..... I ran the memtest from a ubuntu install on a new harddrive.... [14:05] TwinReverb: its a pretty old system [14:05] 400000.... [14:05] 67% 0_0 [14:05] oh then i would think the system is screwed [14:05] comp_ (n=comp_@89.137.6.138) left irc: "Leaving" [14:05] stealth-: what's the mobo? [14:05] these are just "errors" not "ECC Errs", btw [14:06] eh, that old thing may not support ECC memory (or may not have any installed even if it does) [14:06] i'm going out guys [14:06] MLanden: its a intel pentium 4 processor, but the motherboard just says GA-8IG1000MK [14:07] linux using bassplayers need to go outside and smoke pot now and then [14:07] Urchlay: we did some coop duke matches over the internet last night [14:07] 600000...... lol [14:07] thanks urchlay [14:07] antiwire: ooooh, nice! (and I missed it!) [14:07] how'd it go? [14:07] MLanden: the capacitators look fine, I already checked them out [14:07] it worked! [14:07] Urchlay: game play is actually decent [14:08] ECC or not, you should not get errors iirc [14:09] well I got lots. :( [14:09] I think ill shut it down and test the other two memory sticks [14:09] wait, this is memory stick testing? [14:10] antiwire: so who's the reigning champion? :) [14:10] oh like sticks of RAM, not USB memory sticks [14:10] well I couldn't hit camarade_tux [14:10] lol [14:10] shonudo (n=user@c-76-113-6-156.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:10] TwinReverb: its dual channel [14:11] TwinReverb: I had one side of the four ram sticks taken out, since it refuses to boot with all 4 in [14:11] hmmm, the french guy is the duke nukem champ? hmm... [14:11] hmm odd [14:11] if I boot with all 4 sticks, the BIOS freezes after listing the processor [14:11] Urchlay: if you download this demo I made and put it in your ~/.eduke32 directory, start the game it will play like an intro http://uploading.com/files/HUJ4N9YO/demo1.dmo.html [14:12] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@97-86-234-223.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:12] the demo1.dmo [14:12] not the .html lol [14:13] _theradar (n=hjhayes@adsl-219-173-146.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:13] agh, I hate those "wait 90 seconds or else give us money" sites... [14:13] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:14] yeah i prefer the "wait 90 seconds and we'll give you money" ones [14:14] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:16] you do know, nobody *ever* wins at "punch the monkey", right? [14:16] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:16] lol [14:16] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:16] Action: sajes punches Urchlay. [14:16] yes i know that, i'm not stupid. there's no such thing as a free lunch. [14:17] TwinReverb: Google gives out three free lunches per day if you work for them. Probably comes out of your pay or something though. ;) [14:17] agh, you guys were using the duke3d shareware grp file, the demo won't play under "atomic edition" :) [14:17] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:17] sajes, you earn them by working for Google [14:18] TwinReverb: You earn your paycheck by working for google. [14:18] Urchlay: no it was the official grp [14:18] you sure that's not "3 free lynches" a day? (like, they find their worst employees and hang them, to motivate the survivors? or am I thinking of microsoft...) [14:19] Urchlay: can you md5 your grp? [14:19] Urchlay: You're thinking Apple, actually. [14:19] :) [14:19] 22b6938fe767e5cc57d1fe13080cd522 .eduke32/duke3d.grp [14:20] (the launcher GUI thingy also checksums it, and only lists it if it recognizes it) [14:20] official version non-atomic 981125cb9237c19aa0237109958d2b50 /usr/share/games/eduke32/duke3d.grp [14:20] so that means last night chopp had the atomic version [14:20] interesting [14:20] ah, I only have atomic... lost my original DOS duke3d CD a long time ago [14:21] uva (i=bno@118-168-234-43.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:24] how can I test for DRI? is that the glxinfo | grep direct command? [14:25] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] anshulk (n=chatzill@123.237.2.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:26] stealth-, yes [14:27] thx [14:27] I dont think there appears to be any errors on my other sets of RAM sticks. Downside is now im a gig short for ram :( [14:28] check your motherboard's specifications [14:29] that's what you get for trying to force ddr2 into a ddr slot [14:29] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:30] antler: Its not ddr2, i dont think [14:30] antler: it just says "ddr" [14:30] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [14:30] TwinReverb: specifications? what am I looking for? [14:31] how much it supports and of what type [14:32] nachox (n=nacho@201.255.178.110) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:32] TwinReverb: ah okay. I gotta restart my X server so im gonna loose my irssi client. Thanks TwinReverb [14:32] stealth- (n=stealth@66.183.233.184) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:33] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [14:33] Greetings everyone. :) [14:33] hello! [14:33] hey antiwire, how's it going? [14:33] Afternoon,firebird619 ...I'm fine and yourself? [14:33] Hey MLanden, doing excellent, thank you. :) [14:35] firebird619: np [14:38] Urchlay: want to test it? [14:38] I have a 1v1 server waiting [14:38] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Deuces." [14:40] for some reason we couldn't get over 3 players to work. we should try again [14:40] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:40] i mean over 2 players. 3 was a no go [14:41] i love how my tower side panel acts as an air filtre; i'm constantly peeling off layers of dust [14:41] antiwire: what happened when the 3rd person tried to log in? [14:42] MLanden: nothing. on my end in the server console it would just say waiting for player 3 and on their it would just stall [14:42] y0 antler. How's it going? [14:42] um, filter. hey firebird619 :) good, you? [14:42] doing excellent, thanks. :) [14:43] hi [14:43] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:43] cmair (n=cmair@host21-58-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:44] antiwire: how much bandwidth is alloted to each player? [14:45] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:46] Urchlay: whats impressive? [14:46] MLanden: no idea [14:47] haha that was chopp [14:48] straterra: all them errors, yet memtest doesn't crash... 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How's it going? :) [15:34] firebird619, nice, thanks, and you ? =) [15:34] Action: Camarade_Tux killed nvidia.ko [15:34] doing excellent, thanks. [15:34] :O, you killed it? [15:35] j0z (n=LINUX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Connection timed out [15:36] firebird619, yeah, upgraded the kernel and I have to recompile it but it won't :) [15:36] haha. good work. :D [15:36] stealth- (n=stealth@66.183.233.184) joined ##slackware. [15:37] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:37] but I'll probably format that machine anyway, I want the new xorg, I really want to use nouveau and get rid of that bloody nvidia driver [15:37] does nouveau support full 3d accel? [15:37] Im reading a tutorial to add 'vga=771' to my boot.lst file, but thats a grub thing. What would be the lilo alternative? [15:37] cool. I've never tried the nouveau driver. [15:37] see : with nouveau, I'd had the same error but then, I'd just cd into my git repo, git pull, build install and woot, working ! [15:38] antiwire: I don't think 3d accel is fully implemented yet [15:38] that looks like actually the right format for LILO but i could be wrong [15:38] antiwire, partly but I don't really care about 3D accel, and I've never like the nvidia driver [15:38] stealth-: That's what you use with lilo also, only it goes into lilo.conf [15:39] append, or put it in the global section [15:39] The Slackware liloconfig-generated lilo.conf has it in the global section. [15:40] antiwire: from the nouveau wiki: Any 3D functionality that might exist is still unsupported, do not ask for instructions to try it. [15:40] vi to the rescue [15:40] Hey NukeDukem [15:41] hi firebird619 [15:41] firebird619: k, thanks. [15:41] Action: stealth- doesnt trust lilo [15:42] stealth-: then don't use it. :P [15:42] BP{k}: but I like the startup background ;) [15:42] Hey BP{k}, how are you? [15:42] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [15:42] stealth-: sucks to be you then. ;-) [15:42] lol [15:42] firebird619: purdy good. And your fine self? [15:43] BP{k}: doing excellent, thanks. The weather is great, I'm on current + kde4 now. I've for sure decided to use Kontact for e-mail, etc. All is going well. [15:44] stealth- (n=stealth@66.183.233.184) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:44] firebird619: nice :) I am thinking of switching over to 64-current, at some point :) [15:44] and, opera is going to make some announcement Tuesday (6.16.09). It has something to do with portability or something. Going by the image, my guess is it's related to cloud computing, and there's also a twitter about it having to do with USB. [15:45] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:45] BP{k}: After seeing how nice KDE4 + Kontact are, it was an easy dicision to make. [15:45] wb Camarade_Tux [15:45] Camarade_Tux_ (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:45] firebird619, but does it ask you for your signing password? [15:45] Oh NO, two Camarade_Tux_'s. This isn't good. [15:46] TwinReverb: Kontact? Sorry, I don't quite understand the question. :P [15:46] BP{k}: I don't have 64bit hardware, but it sure is nice to be back on current. :) [15:47] firebird619, can you send an email using kontact and signing it using a key you generated in kgpg? [15:47] anyone build Flock web browser from SBo.org ? [15:47] slackbuilds.org [15:47] NukeDukem: I think I did once. [15:47] any good? [15:47] TwinReverb: Um, I belive you can, but I've never used a key and kgpg, so I don't know for sure. [15:48] NukeDukem: personally I don't care for it too much. [15:48] firebird619, please test it for me [15:48] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.128.52) joined ##slackware. [15:48] There is a Certificate Manager and GnuPG log viewer. I'm looking. [15:48] didn't alienBOB said it was working fine for him? [15:49] i see it is a social web browser (whatever that means) i am anti-social when it comes to web browsing ;p unless i want to share something with a URL [15:49] What? [15:49] alienBOB, does kontact + kgpg work? [15:49] i.e. can you send signed and encrypted emails? [15:49] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:49] TwinReverb: I'm searching around with it. The Certificate Manager thing opens Kleopatra. [15:49] alienBOB: I thought you had kmail + email signing with gpg working? [15:50] I did not say I _generated_ a key with kgpg. I can _use_ kgpg/kmail to send and read encrypted emails though [15:50] i was only asking if someone could test it for me, to see if it was simply my ~/.kde [15:51] TwinReverb: I do use gpg-agent to do the password handling [15:52] I'' disable it and try [15:52] I was thinking back to when I first wanted to try linux [15:52] that was long long ago [15:52] thanks, i just wondered what's up, since mine worked fine in kde 3.x (slack 12.2) but doesn't work now [15:52] the only thread i saw was "well you had to set it up in kde 3.x so set it up on kde 4.x" but mine "just worked" (tm) [15:53] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [15:54] I had a very hard time installing redhat [15:54] but it was my computer that was the issue [15:54] it did not like most OSes [15:54] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.150.224) joined ##slackware. [15:54] I had an IBM bluelighting processor [15:54] my first personal computer [15:55] sad part is I had it in like 1996 [15:55] lol [15:56] firebird619, probably because I disconnected too quickly when I realized I hadn't changed my xorg.conf to use "nvidia" instead of "nv" ;) [15:57] firebird619, and twice the ocaml troll ! \o/ [15:57] :) [15:59] hosl (n=LINUX@189-30-136-47.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [15:59] SQlvpapir__ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [16:01] firebird619, oh, no : I ran xchat twice :) [16:01] pebkac ! \o/ [16:01] Camarade_Tux_ (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:01] Camarade_Tux: hahahaha [16:02] running xchat once is too much. :P [16:02] hey chopp [16:02] how's it going? [16:02] I thought I was on desk1 but I was on desk2, and since desk2 was empty, I thought I hadn't started xchat :) [16:02] chopp :p [16:02] good firebird619 how about yourself? [16:03] doing excellent, thanks. :) [16:03] Action: Camarade_Tux should soon migrate to ... crap, I've forgotten its name [16:03] Camarade_Tux, migrate to /dev/null [16:03] TwinReverb: here it works. I created a test key with kgpg (took eternity to generate it) then configured kmail to use that key for signing/encrrypting. I sent a signed email to one of my accounts - it just popped in and I can check it's pgp signature. It is signed with the kgpg-generated key [16:03] irssi ! >< [16:03] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:03] alienBlurb, ok must be my ~/.kde [16:03] er alienBOB [16:03] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:03] When I clicked "Send" btw - I got the pinentry-qt window that asked for my passphrase for that key [16:04] Camarade_Tux: Why haven't you migrated yet? :) [16:04] TwinReverb: I hope you _did_ remove your .kde when you upgraded ffrom KDE3 to KDE4 ? [16:04] TwinReverb, that's probably where the friend whose computer I "migrated" in a hurry wants to put me right now... [16:04] alienBlurb, nope because it seemed to have a "settings migration" agent [16:04] firebird619, waiting for my shell, that way I'll always be there and I'll monitor you, I'll check you sleep enough ;) [16:04] er alienBOB [16:05] i don't like moving my dotfiles/dotdirectories around [16:05] i can but i don't because then i end up spending time reconfiguring [16:05] granted, i'll be sure to move ~/.kde next time [16:05] you have to for kde3 -> kde4 [16:05] i figured it might be [16:06] Sigh [16:06] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.129) left irc: "me brainz explode! go b00m" [16:06] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@97-86-234-223.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:07] I guess that needs to added to CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT if that was not obvious [16:07] heh, obvious is never assumed with some ;) [16:07] alienBOB, my apologies [16:07] well i'm military! they beat me with poles if i assume! [16:07] 8-O [16:07] CaptObviousman to the rescue! [16:08] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:09] TwinReverb: there is no need for apologies [16:10] now how to migrate my 500 or so emails [16:11] (when the time comes) [16:11] stealth- (n=stealth@unaffiliated/stealth-) joined ##slackware. [16:12] ugghhhhhhhhhh....... my laptop absolutely *refuses* to use DRI QQ [16:12] stupid dell [16:12] Action: stealth- ducks [16:12] dude you got a dell! 8-O [16:12] Action: TwinReverb ducks [16:12] TwinReverb: I'm sure there's an easier way, (maybe transfer the kmail folder over) but I imported to claws-mail my mail from kontact and then once I upgraded, I reimported to kontact. It's the long way around, but it worked for me. [16:12] I hate it >:( [16:13] stealth-, maybe you could just not give a krap if DRI works [16:13] stealth-, what graphics card? [16:13] TwinReverb: but what about eduke32 :( I want to play on my laptop, lol [16:13] stealth-, you still have the regular and pixelated mode :P [16:14] s/pixelated/ultra-pixelated/ ;p [16:14] TwinReverb: regular and pixelated mode? [16:14] lol [16:14] stealth-, /sbin/lspci | grep VGA [16:14] it wont run in high-def or low-def [16:14] TwinReverb: sorry, I was working on getting that, but my laptop mouse is being finicky. one sec [16:15] stealth-, yeah, software rendering instead of opengl one ;p [16:15] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:15] lastnight I couldn't figure out why mine was looking like crap. Had to rebuild the hires_pack :P [16:15] ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02) [16:15] sh: /sbin/lapci: No such file or directory [16:15] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) [16:16] ah ATI [16:16] yeah :( [16:16] need a good movie [16:16] there is no official linux driver, non of the other drivers work with DRI. There was one solution for ubuntu, but it required compiling a new kernel (I think) [16:16] you could use the kernel drivers and not care about DRI but oh well [16:17] I have been watching KungFu [16:17] dhw, Crank ? [16:17] hehe [16:17] dhw: ive heard the hangover is a funny move ;) [16:17] have that on blueray [16:17] dhw: 2girls1cup? [16:17] the second one is good [16:17] 2cups1girl [16:17] saw the hangover also, it's funny. [16:17] 7girls13cups [16:17] I havnt seen it yet [16:18] I have a rather large dvd collection [16:18] I enjoy movies quite a bit. [16:18] TwinReverb: I watch them when Im bored [16:18] I could watch Harrison Ford in Firewall! [16:18] opps, not to TwinReverb, lol [16:19] stealth-, what was the problem the "solution" for ubuntu was solving ? (basically what was the problem with that driver) [16:19] I am going to give k-19 a shot [16:19] Is it safe to "mix" packages (some -current packages in an -stable system)? [16:19] no [16:19] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0267626/ [16:19] :-( [16:19] Camarade_Tux: the driver doesnt work with DRI on dell latitude C600 and another brand (C800) I think. [16:20] stealth-, do you have any other detail ? [16:20] asarch, why ? which package do you want to use ? [16:20] Camarade_Tux: one minute, ill see if I can find the page again [16:20] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 98860 2009-03-16 04:33 ./ap/foomatic-filters-4.0_20090315-i486-1.txz [16:20] I think my first try in installing slackware will be on vmware [16:21] Wait a minute, 12.2 can't understand *.txz files! [16:21] :-( [16:21] I am working on a LSP so I need windows still [16:21] asarch: No, it can't. txz is used in current [16:21] well you could repackage txz if you do it carefully, but still ... [16:22] asarch, I know nothing about foomatic but you might take the slackbuild and the sources and compile the package yourself [16:22] sigh [16:22] I wish I would have gone fanlass water cooling [16:22] fanless* [16:22] I think we should come up with a new package extension every release so that people don't mix packages so easily... [16:22] alienBOB, 8-) [16:22] Camarade_Tux: ummm, I would give you the link, but apparently firefox stopped recording my history about sometime last week 0_0 [16:22] alienBOB, btw thanks for all your hard work and dedication 8-) [16:22] Action: Camarade_Tux is nearly sure there will be some version mismatch if only foomatic-filters is updated, feminine^Wintuition [16:23] stealth-, why "0_0" ? that's firefox, expected behaviour would be unexpected :) [16:24] if your history is set to one week, don't be surprised if links older than a week do not exist 8-) [16:24] make a slackblock.run the whole os in one big runtime binary that comes separate from a small boot iso, they download the iso and burn it and then once booted it offers a choice of mirrors to download the slackblob from ;p [16:24] what browsers do most of you use? [16:24] Camarade_Tux: yeah, lol. last night, every time somebody sent me a message via facebooks instant messager, the gzine music player popped up. XD [16:24] firefox for browsing, seamonkey for editing html (WYSIWYG) [16:24] Camarade_Tux: took me forever to figure out what it was [16:24] i been using dillo (requires fltk) [16:24] but sometimes i use telnet for my web browsing [16:25] telnet to port 80 [16:25] i use w3m when im hiding being on the internet from my parents [16:25] less colorful [16:26] i did rebuild links to accept the -g switch [16:27] since I'm building my own browser, I'm running firefox : it shows me every thing I have to avoid :) [16:27] muzz2k (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: [16:27] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [16:28] hrm [16:28] Camarade_Tux: When's that gonna be done? :P [16:28] Camarade_Tux: do you have a link to a project website? [16:28] slackbook 3.0 a ways from comming out? [16:29] ugh.. there is a funny smell somewhere around my computer but I cant tell what it is or where its coming from, lol. [16:29] firebird619, progressing, I'm currently working on the foundation libs, progressing ;) [16:29] smells like food [16:29] lol [16:29] I'll try to have a preview before slackware13 comes out ! :D [16:29] old food? [16:29] stealth-: Is it you? :P [16:29] I dont know, I cant find any [16:29] stealth-, not ready yet ;) [16:29] thats your CPU frying [16:30] Camarade_Tux: nice. [16:30] I am about to print slackbook 2.0 [16:30] firebird619: lol, no I shower at least 1 every 2 months (or try to, at least) [16:30] NukeDukem: Mmmm, smells like chicken. :P [16:30] stealth-: Ah, well if you shower that often, it shouldn't be you. :P [16:30] having a laser printer is nice :P [16:30] you could save energy by running a quad xeon and welding the heat pipes to the bottom of a wok [16:30] stealth-, whatever smells like food, find it and eat it ! :P [16:30] intel fried rice [16:30] haha [16:31] mm, arora can't find flashplugin in /usr/lib64 :( [16:31] 6f4il [16:31] TwinReverb: add a little sugar and cinnamon and Mmmm, good eats. :P [16:31] Camarade_Tux: lol [16:32] what do people do for a living here? [16:32] thrice`, hold on a bit :) [16:32] ooh ? [16:33] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [16:33] This could be interesting: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/12/next-week-opera-claims-it-will-reinvent-the-web/ [16:33] random networking and computer jobs. [16:33] thrice`, specify MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=/your/path/ when running arora [16:34] antiwire: and soon to be professional Duke3d gamers. :P [16:34] well, that's silly :) [16:34] thanks Camarade_Tux [16:34] checking for updates! [16:35] thrice`, that works ? [16:35] downloading updates :D :D [16:35] firebird619, we could make a duke nukem team ;) [16:35] Camarade_Tux: yeah. :) [16:36] btw, I still have to pawn you :) [16:36] uva (i=bno@118-168-236-48.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:36] hehe :D [16:36] Camarade_Tux: mm, wait; MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH="/usr/lib64/mozilla/" arora does not [16:37] go go updater! [16:37] Camarade_Tux: that's pretty big talk. :) [16:37] thrice`, and /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins ? (your .so should be there) [16:37] firebird619, chicken ;D [16:37] Camarade_Tux: nope, neither does that [16:37] not this again. [16:37] if Camarade_Tux wasn't across the pond I'd might have stood a chance [16:37] lol [16:37] antiwire, hahaha :P [16:37] that was sheer luck ;) [16:37] lol [16:38] My connection actually seems to be working today, except a couple times earlier this morning. [16:38] 158/284 [16:38] much more to go [16:38] antiwire, considering that with all the ammo used, only one freezer reached you... [16:38] my friend just landed in florida, on his way to Jamaica [16:39] Camarade_Tux: that was hilarious [16:39] he froze me and kicked me in the head. of all the weapons to use... [16:39] cool, how long will he be there for? [16:39] antiwire: hahaha [16:39] my friend was supposed to go to Jamaica this summer [16:40] dhw: 2 weeks [16:40] was/is not sure right now [16:40] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430582.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:40] he is going for the cheap buds, or to enjoy the country. [16:40] Camarade_Tux: you're evil it sounds like, freeze a man then kick em in the head. [16:40] or maybe even both [16:40] everything [16:40] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [16:41] It's one thing to kick a man while he's down, but while frozen? unthinkable. :P [16:41] thrice`, you should maybe strace arora and check if it _tries_ to load flashfoobar.so [16:41] firebird619: haha [16:41] technically i wasn't even down..i froze standing up [16:41] lol [16:41] firebird619, but I tried to get the nuts, not the head ! ='( [16:41] hahaha [16:41] just don't eat the meat outside of the place he is staying at [16:41] Camarade_Tux: :O, even more evil, going for the tarballs. [16:41] ooo almost done printing :D :D [16:41] firebird619, yeah, the source of the problem -_- [16:42] lol [16:42] dhw, he, I want your printer ;) [16:42] Camarade_Tux: I could have sworn it worked on 0.6; I'm trying that now [16:42] dhw: his girlfriend is thai. they probably eat dog often [16:42] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430582.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:42] firebird619, so, you can host a game now ;) [16:42] thrice`, maybe it fails to load it [16:42] some of the stuff she makes us is wild, with no translation... [16:42] all we know is "it's thai!!" [16:42] If I must, I suppose I could. What's the command to do so? [16:43] "hey what are you feeding us?" her "thai." [16:43] firebird619, eduke32 -net -p25000 /n0:2 [16:43] eduke32 -net -p25000 /n0:4 [16:43] :). Want to try 4 players? [16:43] chopp, trying 4 players ? :) [16:43] lets do it guys. [16:44] damn ran out of paper! [16:44] who's serving? [16:44] Action: Camarade_Tux cleans the desk [16:44] ok, and btw, if I disappear, my connection crapped out. [16:44] Action: Camarade_Tux can't serve [16:44] firebird619, one minute should be enough to kick your butt ;) [16:44] how many slots? [16:44] o/ [16:44] 4 I think [16:44] If my connection craps out and someone else is hosting, the game still continues for you guys? [16:44] firebird619: dunno [16:44] 257/284 [16:45] firebird619, I think so [16:45] eduke32 -net 97.94.110.129:25000 [16:45] one player left [16:45] getdents(13, zsh: segmentation fault strace arora [16:45] who's missing ? [16:46] server is not happy about this [16:46] ok, did it freeze again ? =/ [16:46] it just stops [16:46] hmm no go [16:46] antiwire: It sits at the Player 0 is Ready. [16:46] thrice`, ouch [16:46] and same for me [16:46] wow even locked up eduke32 here [16:47] Hmm, it really should work. [16:47] I would think. [16:47] Camarade_Tux: it doesn't like /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins either [16:47] well, let's ask in #eduke [16:47] chopp: same here [16:47] Camarade_Tux: #eduke32 [16:47] heh, not many people there. [16:49] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:49] crap, I forgot to back up before updating [16:49] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-254-172.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:49] I hope I don't lose anything [16:49] dhw, your dog will eat your slackbook [16:49] nachox (n=nacho@201.255.178.110) joined ##slackware. [16:49] lol [16:50] guys i have install gdm.....how can i change xdm to use gdm? [16:50] nah, my dog is nice [16:50] it only eats flesh [16:50] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-64-223-224-206.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] Whats up [16:50] page 241! [16:51] almost done :D :D [16:51] then ill have to bind it [16:51] ??? [16:51] hm do they sell slackbook in the slackstore binded? [16:51] it seems they do! [16:51] LinuxyErin (n=erin@ppp-70-252-130-205.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [16:51] has anyone here made the switch from firefox to opera 10 lately? [16:52] i heard opera 10 is really fast, im testing it [16:52] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.128.52) left irc: "Leaving" [16:52] links -g! [16:52] I use opera 10 all the time. [16:52] v4nelle: uhm slackware should use GDM if it is installed. [16:52] btw, 10 is not officially released, it is in beta status [16:52] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [16:52] actually it should use : GDM -> SLIM -> KDM -> XDM [16:52] I have only use opera on linux [16:53] BP{k}, thx...i go to try it [16:53] im going to miss my bazillion plugins [16:53] but man, firefox has been running like total shit lately [16:53] I think I lost everything in my update [16:53] fuck me [16:53] i never liked opera because it felt so "campy" [16:53] I forgot about that [16:54] dhw, define "everything" ? [16:54] just like mac feels "campy" [16:54] dhw: not the pr0n!!!!!!!!!!!!1 [16:54] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:54] maybe someone else should try to serve [16:54] I have a IronKey [16:54] has source code [16:54] passwords of course [16:55] anyone tried slackware64 current yet? [16:55] oh sweet [16:55] I di dnot lose it :D [16:55] *hugs* [16:55] that would have been a very very bad day [16:55] LinuxyErin: plenty of people I would guess. :) [16:55] now lets hope all my passwords are still there. [16:56] try to connect to eduke32 -net 80.13.217.233:25000 [16:56] (but as I said, I'm probably not reachable) [16:56] well very nice [16:57] eduke32 -net 75.158.2.67:25000 [16:57] Camarade_Tux: doesn't look like I can connect to you. [16:57] ok, stopping [16:57] Camarade_Tux: It just kept saying, Retrying. [16:58] go guys!!!! [16:58] oh wait [16:58] chopp: I get the same with yours, retrying. [16:58] firebird619: strange, antiwire connected lastnight [16:58] does anyone here like sauerbraten? [16:58] wow [16:58] (cube 2) [16:58] they have really changed ironkey setup it seems [16:58] who's serving now? did you see what they said to try? [16:59] antiwire: I seen what they said. [16:59] should we try connecting to antiwire, with /n0 ? [16:59] nobody? QQ [16:59] yeah try [16:59] it's waiting [16:59] clients try adding /n0 [16:59] -net /n0 serverip:25000 [16:59] one more [17:00] looks like it's working [17:01] I might be able to join you guys in a few minutes, I think it should run on my debian system once I compile it [17:01] lag city [17:01] big time [17:02] isnt there any public servers you could use? [17:02] shonudo (n=user@c-76-113-6-156.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:02] this is officially gay [17:02] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-131.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:02] stealth-, I have it [17:02] juice: sauerbraten? [17:03] antiwire: This just isn't functional at all. lag is aweful [17:03] shonudo (n=user@c-76-113-6-156.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:03] sauerbraten [17:03] yeah [17:03] wow [17:03] firebird619: at least it works now [17:03] know we know [17:03] ` [17:03] antiwire: yeah [17:03] so laggy [17:03] juice: wanna play one on one? [17:03] Camarade_Tux: ok, rekonq doesn't do it either. I'm wondering if qt on -current is b0rked ? [17:03] I haven't really played it too much but sure [17:03] it has been a long time really [17:04] let me finish my torrent, and we can try with mine [17:04] juice: insta or normal? [17:04] hmm? [17:04] for game mode. [17:04] insta kill or with normal weapons? [17:05] actually, I cant :( [17:05] its not working for some reason....... I can only see half of the game screen. [17:05] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.89.12) left irc: "Leaving." [17:06] hmm [17:06] doesn't matter to me [17:06] if you get it to work [17:06] k, maybe later, then [17:07] midnight_sun (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [17:07] oh and normal [17:07] lol [17:07] alienBOB: can you get flash to work properly on slack64, in a webkit based browser (qt) ? both arora and rekonq fail here [17:07] anshulk (n=chatzill@123.237.2.61) joined ##slackware. [17:08] Hey ppl [17:08] I need some slightly off topic help... [17:08] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [17:08] In the stock slack 12.2 install git log etc are not showing colors right... [17:08] asking to ask a quuestion = bad [17:09] s/quuestion/question [17:09] stealth-: my bad... [17:09] thats not really offtopic, either ;) Too bad I dont know how to help you :( [17:09] sry [17:10] "showing colors"? [17:10] as in [17:10] * ESC[31m876e9fcESC[m  Updating ESC[32m(2 months ago)ESC[m [17:10] do you mean the console isnt showing colors right? or is it just those programs? [17:10] huh [17:10] is what it's showing instead of the colours [17:10] yep [17:11] though ls, etc work fine.. [17:11] WHAT is not showing colors? [17:11] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:11] git log [17:11] anshulk: Do you have pager set in your .gitconfig? [17:11] no [17:11] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:11] BP{k}: how do I set that [17:12] I dont like the scroll anyway [17:12] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:12] how do you change the default file manager for opera away from this windows-esque one [17:12] file manager? what do you mean? [17:12] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:13] anshulk: you can write it in your .gitconfig .. "[core] \n pager = less -FRSX" (\n being a newline of course) [17:13] hey eduke32 guys, which one of these packages should I be downloading? http://www.3drealms.com/duke3d/ [17:13] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.150.224) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [17:13] stealth-, I think 1- [17:14] Thanks BP{k} [17:14] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:14] _ohm (n=nava@pool-71-99-30-120.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:14] stealth-, played alienarena2008,,openarena, or termulous? [17:14] http://blog.shenie.info/post/35585161/git-pager helped... [17:14] err [17:14] juice: all three :P [17:14] tremulous [17:14] cool [17:14] juice: I liked tremulous [17:14] stealth-: We're using, or me anyway, the one from slackbuilds.org. [17:14] firebird619: k, ill get that one, then. [17:14] I will put unset LESS in my bashrc nad bashprofile [17:14] antoni (n=user@96.pool85-53-26.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [17:15] firebird619: like, say you want to upload a file, the file manager it uses to select a file and you browse through [17:15] juice: tremulous was my favourite till I found sauerbraten, i still play it ocassionally. alienarena and openarena were okay games, but both had bugs on my system [17:15] nachox (n=nacho@201.255.178.110) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:15] stealth-: you like sauerbraten more than tremulous? [17:15] icarus: yes [17:15] why? [17:15] icarus: Well, adjusting your theme in whatever de/wm you use may change the icons, etc. used there, but otherwise, you can't change that. [17:16] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:16] stealth-: i thought sauerbraten was awesome, but i felt the gameplay was a little eh [17:16] tremulous is so repetative, people always seemed to be playing one map, and the gameplay was always in one spot and the matches all seemed the same. [17:16] stealth-: have you played urban terror? [17:16] stealth-: yeah, true [17:16] icarus: yeah, but it lagged alot on my system. [17:17] stealth-: tremx is cool, someone made a mod that really improved much of the gameplay, and added more weapons, secondary fire, and more aliens [17:17] icarus: wasnt as realistic as I expected, but it was a good game [17:17] icarus: cool! ill check that out [17:17] stealth-: the korx server plays that mod [17:17] Simbioz (n=simbiozz@190.96.33.221) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:17] Arauto (n=leandro@201.17.182.36) left irc: "Saindo" [17:18] cool stealth- [17:18] icarus: oh, I dont play often enough to remember the servers. I think I might start playing again, though. [17:18] i also have utk3 and doom3 [17:18] juice: doom3 is my favorite game, hah [17:18] never played doom [17:18] juice: especially the in-hell mod [17:18] doom 3 is scary ! [17:19] lots of fun playing it [17:19] i keep dieing in it :( [17:19] the in-hell mod is utter madness [17:19] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [17:20] every health item/ammo is a trap, and there are unrealistic amounts of demons everywhere, if you stop moving, you die, if you miss and waste ammo, you run out, and die, hah [17:20] did u guys ever watch quake 1 made fast ? [17:21] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [17:22] DeeeeP: i don't think so [17:22] i cant find that video [17:23] video is about a dude who can finish quake 1 single player , in 16 minutes [17:23] its amazing how he do / pass certain level zones [17:23] single player, hardest level [17:26] DeeeeP: have you seen the videos over people beating super mario in 15 minutes, using the star stages [17:26] nope [17:26] found quake video [17:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-toKfJW6g8Q [17:27] BP{k}, works....thx [17:29] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:29] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:31] oioioi [17:31] anTraxc (n=gts@189-041-12-113.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:31] Hey nix_chix0r. How's it going? [17:31] not bad, firebird619 75 degrees out we are going to go to a parade later [17:32] you? [17:32] doing excellent, thanks. It's 75 here too [17:32] Nick change: midnight_sun -> vegeta [17:32] its 102 outside [17:32] i know land of the loon is comming up but it's some thing near my work [17:33] firebird619, is your butt still hurting ? :) [17:33] Camarade_Tux: NO, it's friggen frozen. [17:33] speaking of frozen - KDE4 has started to behave badly for me :( [17:34] firebird619, if only we had flame throwers ;) [17:34] Camarade_Tux: that'd be awesome [17:34] DeeeeP: this is pretty crazy [17:35] yeah a lot [17:35] Nick change: vegeta -> vegeta[off] [17:36] So, this is odd to me. my machine has frozen. ui totally not responsive. ssh to the machine yields that there's no thrashing going on, nothing is obviously wrong [17:37] no output in .xsession-errors indicative of fault, only konsole and firefox were running prior to lockup. [17:37] Camarade_Tux: If we did have flame throwers, I'd be on the ground in a heap of fire thanks to you. :P [17:37] DeeeeP: this guy is like owning the game [17:37] that was hilarious [17:37] Nick change: vegeta[off] -> rolls [17:37] the rpg is pretty much useless in multiplayer though [17:37] antiwire: and a lot of fun. [17:37] you need the destroyer [17:37] and if I kill X it doesn't come back (though, no errors in xorg.0.log) [17:37] it was a pleasure to double headshot you with the rpg ;) [17:38] lol [17:38] haha [17:38] Camarade_Tux: I'll get you back someday, just wait. :) [17:39] Action: firebird619 gets out the pc game controller, a pair of gaming gloves, and a cool pair of shades. Camarade_Tux, I'm coming for ya. :D [17:39] firebird619, sure, I've been training on fps games for a few months now ;) [17:39] icarus, he owned quake 1 , no doubt about it [17:39] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:39] thoughts, anyone? [17:39] I'll have to increase the mouse sensitivity, you were sometimes moving too quickly and I was hitting the laptop's case quite often [17:40] Camarade_Tux: haha, I took the pills. :D [17:40] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:40] Camarade_Tux: you have a gaming mouse? [17:40] Camarade_Tux, what u playing ? [17:40] duke3d [17:40] who was it that pastebin'ed a build order? [17:40] the old one ? [17:40] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [17:40] DeeeeP: we played duke nukem 3d over the internet! [17:40] y0 hitest, how's it going? [17:41] does that game even have tcp/ip default ? [17:41] DeeeeP: eduke32 added it [17:41] it was IPX originally [17:41] yeah ,i've played it [17:41] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [17:41] didnt know it run under linux [17:41] next time we'll do a better map [17:41] firebird619, no without the pills, with them, I simply give up ;) [17:41] hiya firebird619:) it is going well, ty! just finished all of my freaking paperwork:) how are you doing? [17:42] hitest: doing excellent, thanks. :) [17:42] firebird619, not exactly a gaming one but it's an logitech optical 7-button one [17:42] hitest: just got done playing duke3d with antiwire and Camarade_Tux, Camarade_Tux kicked my rear. I was dead in like the first 15 seconds, and then repeatedly after that. [17:42] Camarade_Tux: cordless? [17:42] rolls (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [17:43] hey the strange thing is though that everytime i start my mouse bindings are defaulted [17:43] where do i download it ? i wanna kick Camarade_Tux ass :> [17:43] firebird619, no, it's a pretty basic one, cost about 15 euros, [17:43] that's why you guys see me just standing there for 20 seconds while i rebind [17:43] I managed to read the sticker : Logitech MX300 [17:43] i got mx310 [17:43] Action: eviljames has mx510 [17:43] DeeeeP, you have slackbuilds for that : look for "eduke" [17:44] ok [17:44] but you need duke3d.grp from the original game (or the demo but you may be missing maps) [17:44] Camarade_Tux: I was just using a Dell corded USB this time around, otherwise I use a M$ Wireless Laser 5000 [17:44] which makes me wonder : wouldn't it be possible to make a completely free duke distribution, wouldn't that only need free maps ? [17:45] firebird619, MS, bah :P [17:45] Action: firebird619 steals eviljames mouse and runs for the hills. [17:45] So, nobody has any suggestions? [17:45] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:45] Camarade_Tux: yeah, I know. [17:45] firebird619: I plan to use this mouse to smash my laptop into pieces [17:45] cmair (n=cmair@host21-58-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "leaving" [17:45] eviljames, haha :p [17:45] Action: firebird619 gives eviljames his mouse back [17:45] sorry [17:45] thrice`: I only use firefox, no other browsers, so I never bothered to get flash working with other browsers [17:46] eviljames, are you able to reproduce it ? [17:46] alienBOB: sure; but qt 4.5 is supposed to make flash work in qt-based browsers, and I've had luck in none of them so far. [17:46] Camarade_Tux: the M$ mouse is five button, dell is 2 with scroll, and the Logitech one I do have is 4. [17:46] Camarade_Tux: reproduce the lock? It happens precisely 5 minutes after login. UI totally unresponsive (mouse cursor, keyboard, capslock key - nothing) [17:46] maybe not precisely 5 minutes, but close [17:47] keoni (n=chadh@208-106-15-141.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:47] Camarade_Tux: the M$ mouse is much more sensitive than the dell. [17:47] eviljames, anything scheduled ? mails ? [17:47] Camarade_Tux: but ssh to the bastard lets me in no problem, nothing seems to be thrashing... [17:47] and you could try stracing the whole beast... [17:48] eviljames, blocking i/o ? [17:48] Camarade_Tux: how many mountains of data might I have to look through from that strace? :D [17:49] eviljames, not that much if you know the time and if what you're looking for is located 3 lines before the end of the strace ;) [17:49] firebird619, i know i cant stop showing him off but he was smiling a whole bunch today http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i197/geek_chix0r/?action=view¤t=mvi_0001.flv [17:50] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.150.224) joined ##slackware. [17:51] firebird619, you'll have to show me how better you play with your other mouse ;) [17:51] lol [17:51] Camarade_Tux: your on. :D [17:52] how can I find out what program is using my audio device? [17:52] nix_chix0r: that's really cute. He really is smiling alot. :) [17:52] antiwire: which mouse is it you use again? [17:52] opps, nevermind, I think I broke it 0_0 [17:52] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:52] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:52] microsoft bluetooth 5000 notebook mouse [17:52] my laptop had BT built in [17:52] has* [17:53] Ah, nice. [17:53] evenin [17:53] WOW, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826153048 [17:53] evenin tewmten [17:54] woah im stuffed.. bbqd halomie cheese and beefs and potato wedges.. nomnom [17:54] hi firebird619 [17:54] Camarade_Tux: argh, I didn't want to spend a ton of time on this laptop, but it looks like I now have no choice. a mystery is afoot! :P [17:54] firebird619: that sounds like a lot of fun that you guys are having. [17:54] hitest: yeah, it is. [17:55] coop is fun too [17:55] two players going through maps with monsters enabled [17:55] keoni (n=chadh@drone.c-h-a-d.net) joined ##slackware. [17:55] sweet [17:56] you think putting bacon on the asparagus when i grill it will be anygood [17:57] Camarade_Tux: this is the M$ mouse I have, only mine is silver: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826105187 [17:57] shonudo (n=user@c-76-113-6-156.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:57] eduke freezes my system :( [17:58] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:58] man, alot of things have gone wrong for me today. I like it. [17:58] can you play eduke as a stand alone game, does it need to be networked? maybe I'll give it a try [17:58] hitest: you can play the first part of the campaign [17:58] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:58] jplcrd (i=1000@81.84.168.60) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:59] antiwire: what game? [17:59] j0z (n=JESUS@189-30-136-47.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:59] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-140-53-18.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:59] tewmten: duke nukem 3d [17:59] hitest: you can play standalone too. you need an duke3d disc if you want the full game, otherwise there's a demo on SBo to get. [17:59] via eduke32 [17:59] ah didnt know it ha coop [17:59] oki [17:59] stealth, firebird619: okay. thanks, guys:) [17:59] anytime [18:00] antiwire: I should really map some things to my mouse buttons, might make it easier. [18:00] yeah [18:00] it helps [18:00] I'm right handed, so my left hand is crossing over my left hand to run the arrow keys, etc. :P [18:01] left hand over left hand? [18:01] :P [18:02] firebird619: fix the key maps to use awsd [18:02] I setup it up just like q3 [18:03] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:03] can someone check out http://pastebin.com/d7755e9f0 i was changing some apperance options and then clicked apply and x died, i need some direction to revert that change [18:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:09] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "()" [18:11] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.7.17) joined ##slackware. [18:11] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:12] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:12] firebird_619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [18:13] keoni: either dig out the GTK_QT stuff from ~/.kde & ~/.local and delete them or wipe out all of ~/.kde & ~/.local and start with a new default kde config for your user account [18:13] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:13] antoni` (n=user@96.pool85-53-26.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [18:14] look in ~/.config too [18:14] blop00 (i=1000@23-52.2-0.pl) left irc: "bye" [18:14] antoni` (n=user@96.pool85-53-26.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:14] antoni (n=user@96.pool85-53-26.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:14] keoni- (n=chadh@208-106-15-141.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] pankracy (n=pankracy@fatcat.ftj.agh.edu.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:14] gregsparc_ (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [18:15] Nick change: firebird_619 -> firebird619 [18:15] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:15] ah thanks [18:15] Nick change: gregsparc_ -> gregsparc [18:16] i found widgetStyle=gtk+ in ~/.kde/.... 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[18:29] mimiloon (n=mudassar@bas3-malton22-1176126760.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:30] pankracy (n=pankracy@fatcat.ftj.agh.edu.pl) left irc: "BitchX: the headache medicine" [18:32] keoni (n=chadh@208-106-15-141.dyn.c-h-a-d.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:33] hi everybody, i'm new to linux and got a quick question; i'm downloading the latest version of slackware and my question is: do i have to download all 6 cds to install slackware or one cd should be enough? if more file is needed, will i be able to download it of the web during the install just like debian? [18:34] <|Slacker|> mimiloon, download just the 3 first cd's if you want a complete system [18:34] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:35] |Slacker|: thanks for the info [18:36] <|Slacker|> no probs dude [18:37] you can do 1cd [18:37] and do a net install [18:37] <|Slacker|> also [18:37] <|Slacker|> :) [18:37] if you want to just burn 1 disc grab cd1 and choose to install from ftp/http site [18:37] if you like [18:38] <|Slacker|> gotta shave and shower brb [18:38] Action: |Slacker| looks like a friggin' hermit [18:38] hehe [18:38] juice: that's much better, [18:39] juice: thanks [18:40] np [18:40] you will have to enter in the site url [18:41] so make sure you grab a mirror from the site if you don't have more than 1 computer [18:42] at least when I did it I think you need to manually type in the server name [18:42] been a while since I used it [18:42] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:42] juice: You have to enter it yourself still. ;) [18:43] k [18:43] thanks for the heads up; does slackware support gnome because i seen the images in google as kde [18:43] no gnome officially [18:43] gnome does not come with slackware. [18:43] but there are 4 third party choices [18:44] dropline,gnome slackbuild,gslasky, and slackbot [18:44] gware also [18:44] gware was the old gsb i thought [18:44] *yawns* [18:44] damn, i like gnome better [18:44] hmm guess not [18:45] no, to my knowledge, they are two separate things. [18:45] mimiloon: So install it? [18:45] didn't realize gware was still doing it [18:45] yeah, they are. [18:45] i use dropline myself [18:45] I don't use any gnome at all. :) [18:45] lol :P [18:46] sajes: i'll do that once i install the system [18:46] i tried to use kde or xfce [18:46] and i just get frustrated searching for crap [18:46] mainly from lack of using them [18:47] The only graphical applications I use are uxterm and firefox, and I use alt+f2 and type those in. [18:47] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [18:49] having some issues with that external hard drive i got him for his birthday, the stupid auto mount works but it's saying it's read only [18:49] tried changing permissions for it but it's not working [18:50] ouch, that sucks. [18:50] can you disable automounting? [18:50] what de/wm? [18:50] What fs? [18:50] _capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) joined ##slackware. [18:50] it's gnome [18:50] $ on NTFS [18:50] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:50] the hd is ntfs [18:50] and i guess that's causing problems [18:51] You need to mount it with ntfs-3g [18:51] i could change that right. reformat it or somthing [18:51] Not the kernel ntfs driver [18:51] ohh [18:51] the kernel ntfs driver is read only [18:53] Nick change: suid0_ -> suid0 [18:56] is one hour of use about all you can get out of a laptop battery? (before the alarm says it needs charging)? [18:56] http://noobfarm.org/?id=1555 haahah [18:56] NukeDukem, deppends because mine is so bad that you get maybe 15minutes [18:57] old laptop = old battery [18:57] some could go 4hrs [18:57] i seen what a new battery would cost, more than this used laptop cost ;p [18:57] ha [18:58] depending on your battery, it can be fairly inexpensive to just replace the actual batteries inside. [18:58] is there a command you can type to see what file system you have because when i installed debian there wasn't an option to choose what file system you want like reiserfs [18:58] lostnhell (n=lostnhel@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:58] hello everyone [18:58] Hey lostnhell [18:58] cat /proc/mounts [18:58] will list the fs type for the partition [18:58] nix_chix0r, NukeDukem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtqRvAu71Gw [18:59] i seen a vid on youtube of someone doing that to a laptop battery, looked simple, now if my laptop battery will take those [18:59] what program would be best for ripping cds on slackware-12.2? [18:59] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.150.224) left irc: "Auribus teneos lupus: I hold the wolf by the ears" [18:59] cdparanoia [18:59] jripper if you like java apps [19:00] straterra, it's ext3 then, [19:00] and the external is ntfs [19:00] grazymax (n=grazymax@host13-3-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:00] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:01] what about one that is on slackbuilds.org? [19:01] nix_chix0r, use something like in /etc/fstab [19:01] grazymax (n=grazymax@host32-134-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:01] grip? you can try it, i have not used that in ages [19:01] mimiloon (n=mudassar@bas3-malton22-1176126760.dsl.bell.ca) left ##slackware. [19:01] like /dev/hde1 /mnt/hd ntfs-3g auto,user,sync,exec,uid=1000,gid=100,dmask=007,fmask=117 0 0 [19:01] juice, not sure what i should be putting because it still shows as unreadable [19:01] umount it [19:02] and mod the fstab entry [19:02] and remount it [19:02] ntfs -3g said it was a unknown file system type [19:02] hmm [19:02] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [19:02] that's exactly how it is in fstab [19:03] origionally sdb1 then it changed to sdbc1 [19:03] sdc1* [19:03] hmm [19:03] mount remount -o loop rw /dev/#### / ??? maybe [19:04] mount -t ntfs-3g remount -o loop rw /dev/#### / ??? maybe [19:05] NukeDukem, grip is doing the job, ty [19:05] you might have to save what data you have on it from a windows PC then format it to fat32 so you can use it with both lin & win [19:05] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:06] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.150.224) joined ##slackware. [19:08] all the data is on a linux computer, [19:08] i got him the 1tb hd so he could pull it off there, and then add more, i'm making a media pc [19:08] seagate free agent desk [19:09] If you don't need to use it from Windows, definitely do not choose fat32, it's wasteful. Just about any native Linux fs would be better. [19:10] can i format it to something else from my windows machine [19:10] ext3 is probably the best choice :) [19:10] Windows is pretty much limited to fat32 and ntfs. [19:10] http://pastebin.ca/1460462 this is what i get when i type fdisk -l [19:10] crippleware [19:11] the only reason i suggested fat32 was so any windows pc they might use it with could read & write to it too [19:12] but yes, i agree, if you only intend to use it with linux that ext3 would do nicely [19:12] fat32 might be the best choice for mutual use, I'm not sure, since I'm long out of Windows [19:12] is that something i can do on windows or linux because if it's only showing as an unreadable drive i was thinking about swapping it out for a bit to try it [19:13] (I know it used to be, but the ntfs driver[s] have made great progress since then.) [19:13] but, fat32 would be the best choice for multiplatform read & write capabilities [19:13] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] campassi (n=linko47@130.18.208.32) joined ##slackware. [19:19] gar0t0 (n=casa@187.10.171.126) joined ##slackware. [19:19] if you don't mind the file size limitation [19:20] Hey thrice`, how's it going? [19:20] and, on a 1tb drive, you might ;) [19:20] how big is this external drive? [19:20] hi firebird619; good, you ? [19:20] doing excellent, thanks. [19:20] mmm [19:20] NukeDukem: it's 1TB :P [19:20] snack snack snack! [19:21] wow, fat32 might not like a drive that big [19:21] I had that issue with an 8GB SD card I wanted to put stuff on. It was fat32 so it only would accept 4 GB, I reformated the card to ext3. :P [19:21] s/reformated/reformatted/ [19:21] all the unattended xp installs I have found are crap [19:22] firebird619: hey man :) [19:22] Hey gar0t0, how's it going? [19:24] http://en,wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat32#FAT32 [19:24] firebird619: fine :) [19:24] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:24] damn! i hate typing in urls [19:24] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) joined ##slackware. [19:24] firebird619: trying to write in my blog [19:24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat32#FAT32 [19:25] NukeDukem: copy and paste. :P [19:26] i should have [19:27] wp:Fat32 in konq [19:27] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [19:27] hi hi [19:27] Hey missyjane, how are you doing? [19:27] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [19:28] good :) [19:28] im .. about ready [19:28] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:28] ready to rock! [19:28] heheh [19:28] ready to roll! [19:28] I WANNA ROCK! [19:29] i love that song [19:30] grazymax (n=grazymax@host32-134-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:30] do you guys have a penguin at the top of your getties even after the system finishes its boot? [19:31] no [19:31] no [19:31] no [19:31] lol.. i think i do... [19:31] i have 4... [19:31] missyjane: always have to be the odd one out, dont you? [19:31] or am i supposed to say no?.. [19:31] The penguin[s] are the framebuffer console, one bird per CPU/core. [19:31] Hey nachox, how's it going? [19:31] Action: missyjane goes to the corner crying [19:31] exactly.. i have a quad core... [19:31] rob0: really? thats cool [19:31] they usually go away when the init scripts kick in [19:31] And they go away after the first tty change. [19:31] firebird619, doing fine, yourself? [19:31] they do?.. i dont remember... [19:31] grazymax (n=grazymax@host73-1-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:32] :(......................................... [19:32] I wish mine would stay at the top :( [19:32] nachox: doing excellent, thanks. [19:32] The penguins are Tasmanian devils in 2.6.29.x [19:32] actually, I see how that could get annoying in irssi [19:32] rob0: lol [19:32] it's true [19:32] now that I'm on .30 its back to penguins [19:32] Im gonna switch kernals just for that XD [19:33] I belive tux is back in 30, yes [19:33] rob0: it is indeed. We can breathe again :) [19:34] Action: CaptObviousman is coming to the rescue of ... somebody [19:34] or something [19:34] im feeling emotional [19:34] :| [19:34] i mean :') [19:34] lol, you can come out of the corner, now [19:34] CaptObviousman: it was a long story [19:34] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:35] Action: CaptObviousman has long scrollback buffer [19:35] CaptObviousman: you've saved the day. :) [19:35] hehe stealth- <3 [19:35] lostnhell (n=lostnhel@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Is getting back to soemthing else" [19:35] i like a woman that wears leather, spike healed shoes and carries a whip [19:35] indeed, we are saved, as is our Day [19:35] NukeDukem: I like your mom too [19:36] NukeDukem: lol, j/k ;) [19:36] n/p i nothing shocks me [19:37] the cake is a lie, made me feel.. i dunno.. about life [19:37] like, good [19:37] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] the cake? [19:37] http://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=Wyrenth [19:37] read [19:38] hi guys [19:38] im just sitting here looking out the window and realizing the futility of life :( [19:38] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] Hi paissad [19:38] missyjane: you're weird [19:39] lol no im not [19:39] i'm trying to make an slackbuild for denyhost .... i just would like to know what's the equivalent of make install DESTDIR=where_you_want in python when we do python setup.py install *** [19:39] no boubt adoubt it [19:39] thanks in advance [19:39] we are all gonne die, unless you are religious, dunno why we work so hard [19:39] paissad: usually --root=$PKG [19:39] We are all wierd. [19:39] Hello again chopp, your day going well? [19:39] leogazio (n=leogazio@187.13.131.85) joined ##slackware. [19:39] stealth-: speak for yourself. :P [19:40] as an atheist i am obligated to inform you there is no god ;p [19:40] Hi all! is that secure opening ssh port? [19:40] firebird619: I've seen you do wierd things. [19:40] firebird619: not so bad [19:40] stealth-: orly? [19:40] NukeDukem: im agnostic ;) [19:40] leaving it opened [19:40] thrice`, python setup.py --root $PKG [19:40] firebird619: yes orly [19:40] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [19:40] paissad: look again [19:40] as a dislexic athist i must also inform you there is no dog either [19:40] lol [19:40] LOL [19:40] NukeDukem, one up for you <3 [19:41] NukeDukem: covering all the bases eh? :P [19:41] NukeDukem: I dont get it..... [19:41] thrice`, python setup.py --root=$PKG :-) [19:41] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [19:41] both ends of the spectrum [19:41] excelblue (n=excelblu@unaffiliated/excelblue) joined ##slackware. [19:41] paissad: better :> [19:41] thrice`, yeah ! [19:41] why is bash-3.1 and dhcpcd-3.x.x still in -current? [19:41] stealth-: what is a dyslexic? think about it. :D [19:41] thanks [19:41] NukeDukem: why would a dislexic not be able to see a dog? [19:41] excelblue: where should they be ? [19:41] Action: sajes headdesks. [19:41] firebird619: dyslexic is when words jump around on a page........ [19:42] thrice`: in an old release :P [19:42] heret|c (n=heretic@c-24-30-117-194.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:42] is it because the dyslexic person can "read" the word dog, or... [19:42] ? [19:42] excelblue: can you tell me 1 thing you'd gain from dhcpcd 4 over 3 ? [19:42] s/can/cant [19:42] I mean, as far as bash 3.x goes, it's only bash-3.2, and dhcpcd is already on 5.x [19:42] roorah_ (n=foo@87.244.223.14) joined ##slackware. [19:42] Nuke, the dyslexic agnostic insomniac stays up all night wondering if there really is a dog. [19:43] lol :'( [19:43] nothing really, but it just makes me wonder - why do we bother updating systems at all? [19:43] stealth-: dyslexic's mix words/numbers around i.e. god...dog? what is god spelled backwards? [19:43] lol [19:43] sure, more features, etc. [19:43] excelblue: bash4 is in testing/ [19:43] firebird619: oh, okay. lol. I feel dumb :( [19:43] yeah, but how about 3.2? [19:43] stealth-: you look it too. :P [19:43] or is that being skipped? [19:43] heh [19:43] excelblue: 3.2 broke alot of scripts, and that was in testing/ too (and got updated to 4) [19:43] ah [19:44] I hate it when someone makes you a meal, and it tastes great except for one part of it that makes it taste horrible, and you dont want to be a jerk and tell that person, but that person makes it alot. [19:44] does 4 still break scripts? [19:44] stupid mom.... [19:44] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:44] excelblue: you're the expert ;) [19:45] ok im ready but.. [19:45] i want to know, does anyone here have a security camera setup? [19:45] hmm... guess I don't lose much by trying on my laptop :P [19:45] i wanna setup one and i have one, never got to set it up the other day cause i was so busy [19:45] excelblue: or, better, use zsh :> [19:45] missyjane: thats not paranoid at all..... [19:45] LOL [19:45] zsh ftw!!! [19:46] i also have a webcam stealth- [19:46] me too. I dont use it though. And it stares at me, all the time. It seriously makes me mad, and I dont know why I still have it plugged in [19:46] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-43-166.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:46] roorah (n=foo@87.244.223.14) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:46] and what do you do with that? [19:47] webcam? nothing. [19:47] missyjane [19:47] LOL [19:47] chopp, since... [19:47] whatever, www.surrealgirl.com [19:47] im a pseudo-whore [19:48] Does anybody here knows to use HPLIP? [19:48] you're a dude [19:48] pic or it didnt happen [19:48] lol [19:48] ok [19:48] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) joined ##slackware. [19:48] im a dude, i still need help setting up the sec camera [19:48] dont be afraid your ugly, you should see my wife :) [19:49] missyjane: thats a very purposeful website you got there........... [19:49] its not done [19:49] NukeDukem: hahaha [19:49] NukeDukem: lol [19:49] your wife is ugly? [19:49] cool :D [19:49] Action: firebird619 prints this irc log and sends it to NukeDukem's wife. :P [19:50] NukeDukem: wifeofnukedukem@gmail.com [19:50] :P [19:50] haha [19:51] berthadukem [19:51] agentc0re: how's it going? go skydiving anymore? [19:51] Action: stealth- wants to go skydiving really bad [19:51] yeah, she is, but i still love her anyway, she was lots prettier when i married her 14 years ago [19:51] went today but as i was about to go, weather got crappy. I started to learn how to pack chutes today though. [19:51] nono don't do bad skydiving, that can be fatal! [19:52] rob0: thats why its fun [19:52] NukeDukem: I'm sure you were a lot prettier 14 years ago too. :P [19:52] You only get one chance to do it right. [19:52] _ohm (n=mark@pool-71-99-30-120.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] rob0: No, two. [19:52] rob0: not if you go a second time [19:52] so [19:52] can anyone help me? what do i do its usb [19:52] yeah, now i am bald [19:53] i have to set up printing, clean my room, do my homework, and clean the kitchen before my show starts. [19:53] rob0: It's two chances, primary parachute, then reserve parachute. :D [19:53] my show starts in 10 minutes....... [19:53] which show? [19:54] stargate atlantis [19:54] ah.....love sci/fi [19:54] yeah, its starting to get a little repetative, though. All they do is: go to another world > explore > meet people > twist > deal with twist > everythings okay > end show. [19:55] You know most incidents happen from experienced jumps doing stupid shit anyways. [19:55] s/jumps/jumpers [19:55] over confidence kills more people, armies & nations than any other mistake [19:56] awww, crap. 5 minutes. [19:56] I think im a IRC addict 0_0 [19:56] bijit (n=benji@200.122.188.156) joined ##slackware. [19:56] I wonder if there is any facebook help groups for that........ [19:57] Action: firebird619 sends stealth- to irc-anonymous. :D [19:57] i have a facebook [19:57] ... [19:57] foobarbaz (n=sheldon@d-216-36-20-166.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:57] hello [19:57] if i did not have a computer i would go back to sitting in my chair in front of the tv watching TV with my wife, and the advertising annoys the hell out of me [19:57] hi sheldon [19:58] i hate the fact that boys are only interested in loks [19:58] looks [19:58] missyjane: I don't. [19:58] darnit agentc0re. stop being creepy [19:58] :P [19:58] :P [19:58] Nick change: dhw -> `dhw [19:58] Nick change: `dhw -> dhw [19:58] any idea what i can fit onto a 3GB partition with slack64? can i get kde and X onto there? [19:58] missyjane: I dont. In fact, I've gotten seriously tired with the ammount of dumb broads in my school I've been looking for someone who is *actually* a smart person for about half a year now [19:59] :| yeah then someone like that with decent look comes along [19:59] foobarbaz: probably. [19:59] i avoid social community websites [19:59] "youre a man" [19:59] lol [19:59] freack (n=frk@189.58.215.199.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:59] foobarbaz: if you're careful :) my kde4 install is 2.8G [19:59] rats [19:59] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.233.108) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:59] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [19:59] thrice`: woah, just kde4 alone? [19:59] no [19:59] missyjane: theres lots of pretty chicks in my school I could go out with, but they all happen to be dumb as shit. [19:59] firebird619: see you later! [19:59] gar0t0 (n=casa@187.10.171.126) left irc: "buh" [19:59] haha [20:00] shows on, bye guys. [20:00] bye stealth- [20:00] :( bye stealth [20:00] grazymax (n=grazymax@host73-1-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:00] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) joined ##slackware. [20:01] chrootis there some other good app like chroot? or only chroot? [20:01] ONLY CHROOT! [20:01] choot choot! [20:01] bye stealth [20:01] bijit: What's wrong with chroot? [20:01] I need to get a cloak [20:01] get it in #frenode [20:01] should I just ask in #freenode? [20:01] does anyone have a fresh, full install of slackware? could you tell me how big it is? [20:01] or message a +v [20:02] foobarbaz, give or take, 20gb [20:02] ? [20:02] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:02] sajes: Just asking cause I want to use it..but sometimes people just recommend other apps [20:02] dhw: ask in freenode or msg a staff member. [20:02] thanks [20:02] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:02] I read their page and all up and ready for one :) [20:03] dhw: so you have all 7 steps done? [20:03] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:03] firebird619: is that what you have is a cloak? [20:03] hmm 7 let me check [20:03] foobarbaz: as I said, my install (with all of xorg and most of kde4) is 2.8 gigs. I trim stuff, though; a FULL install is probably closer to 5G [20:03] firebird619: Username: n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619 ? [20:03] missyjane: 20GB? wth. there's no way [20:03] agentc0re: yup. :) [20:03] thrice`: alright, i was guessing about 5-6G [20:03] no.. not that little [20:03] full install is only 5gb? [20:04] foobarbaz: just a little over 4 GB for a full install of 12.2 [20:04] in my home i about 11gb, the rest obviously is slackware install [20:04] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [20:04] missyjane: run df -h [20:04] yea already have that, about 25gb used [20:04] kde takes alot of space [20:04] dhw: these seven steps: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup [20:05] yep, got it all taken care of, thanks firebird [20:05] yw [20:05] dhw: now go get cloaked. :D [20:05] i have a slackware system including kde in 1.6 gigs [20:06] NukeDukem: er, I doubt it [20:06] you might want to give it more room [20:06] I really don't want to go to work tomorrow. [20:07] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [20:07] http://pastebin.com/d1fb5ec3d [20:07] dont call me a liar! [20:07] A full slackware install will be about 5GB [20:08] NukeDukem: :) nice [20:08] Excluding the KDEI series (you only need one language, not all) [20:08] standard [20:08] lol thrice` [20:08] do many people use gnome still? [20:09] I have never gotten a long with it very much [20:09] alienBOB: do you have any chroot docs on you site? [20:09] No [20:09] i have a process that kill -9 won't kill [20:09] i leave out about half of ap/, half of d/, e/, f/, k/, kdei/, half of kde, half of n/, all of t/ and tcl/, and all of xap/, and my -current is still around 2.8G [20:10] leogazio (n=leogazio@187.13.131.85) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:10] thats what i did, i went through the "menu" selection and unchecked what i know i wont use [20:10] vmware run in slackware? [20:10] for those space junkies http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6F7379CAB1AE6570 [20:11] workstation not player/server [20:11] nm I found my answer [20:14] Ficthe (n=roee@unaffiliated/ficthe) joined ##slackware. [20:15] quick question - do the clips here: http://www.clairseach.com/music/CDs.htm play for you guys? [20:15] I'm wondering what plug-in I would need for that [20:15] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [20:15] Where is the udevinfo command? [20:15] it's dead [20:15] I was thinking mplayer plugin for firefox would cover it all.. but for some reason, it just isn't playing the thing for me [20:15] udevadm does that stuff these days [20:16] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:16] antiwire: Dude, check this out. I think you'll like it. http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6F7379CAB1AE6570 [20:17] eagleheart (n=lxer1@adsl-218-109-222.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "leaving" [20:18] i don't just like it, i love it [20:18] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [20:18] you should sub to zuke696 because he records a ton of those shoes and then creates a playlist for them all. [20:19] antiwire: He has a ton of great stuff posted. [20:19] some people dig SciFi shows and I do too but I really get kicks out of the semi real SciFi [20:19] you know, things we can see and learn from [20:19] nooo? someone please try it and see if it's just a problem here :\ [20:19] I'm watched all of Sagan's Cosmos so I need mooaar [20:20] dhw (n=dhw@ip70-171-182-160.om.om.cox.net) left irc: [20:20] I've [20:20] dhw (n=dhw@ip70-171-182-160.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:20] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [20:22] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.150.224) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [20:22] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@187.5.193.169) joined ##slackware. [20:25] foobarbaz (n=sheldon@d-216-36-20-166.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:25] agentc0re: zuke has a ton of stuff [20:25] dang [20:25] bryanlharris (n=bharris@66-190-66-200.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:26] i'm lining up all of it [20:26] antiwire: search youtube for PBS Nova The Elegant Universe [20:26] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.150.224) joined ##slackware. [20:26] NukeDukem: I already watched literally all of those [20:26] i did cosmos and elegant universe [20:27] hulu and guba had a bunch too [20:27] guys sbopkg is good way to make packages from slackbuilds? [20:27] antiwire: If i could work anywhere i think i would love to work at nasa. [20:27] that sounds like a statement [20:27] antiwire: Ya, i told you he has a ton. [20:27] my toothache is rawring [20:27] :( [20:27] lw0x15: you need some scotch [20:27] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:27] v4nelle: did you try it ? [20:28] get some needlenose pliers and pull it out :D [20:28] two wisdom tooths ? [20:28] dont think so [20:28] lol [20:28] lw0x15: ouch. which ones? top or bottom? [20:28] bottom [20:28] two holes [20:28] lw0x15: I've been there. I had both bottoms removed ( i don't have tops at all) [20:28] one of them is covered by gums already [20:29] thrice`, yes......and i haven't problems yet [20:29] v4nelle: cool, there's your answer [20:29] antiwire: painful ? [20:30] :) [20:30] lw0x15: to be honest, yes [20:30] lw0x15: they'll give you nice drugs though [20:30] better do [20:30] lol [20:30] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:30] i know someone that did that, not to wisom teeth, but to a molar that had a cavity and he did not want to spend the money to have a dentist fix it [20:30] pulling out two wisdom tooths soudns painful to me [20:30] already [20:30] sounds [20:30] anyone here run xenserver? [20:31] lw0x15: It's worth it though. After they removed them for me I magically lost a lot of neck and jaw pain and some specific headaches went away [20:31] Dominian: I do at work [20:31] agentc0re: Where the hell is the xenServer tools iso? [20:31] antiwire: weird now you mentioned that i rememberd this neck pain i have sometimes [20:31] For me when i downloaded all of that stuff it was with all the links there [20:32] Yudha_HT (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [20:32] The tools are windows only though. [20:32] eh [20:32] lw0x15: yeah man, all the pressure on your whole jaw really causes mayhem [20:32] There's no "guest additions' for linux as there is with VirtualBox? type of thing? [20:33] Dominian: Oh there was that ISO download as well too [20:33] agentc0re: where the hell is it? [20:33] Action: Dominian has been searching all over their website [20:33] again it was with all the other downloads. [20:33] Let me find it and i'll post it [20:33] so the fullxenserver download [20:33] agentc0re: this is on my VPS I'm on right now [20:34] I'll just yank the xenserver installer down to my VPS and find it [20:34] lw0x15: are you scheduled for the surgery yet? [20:35] Dominian: http://www.citrix.com/lang/English/lp/lp_1688615.asp [20:35] yah [20:35] no, but going next monday to see if they can save it [20:35] lw0x15: You should do it. It sucks for about a week and a half but that leads to a life time of no more wisdom tooth worries. [20:35] although i just prefer that they remove it all together [20:35] lw0x15: I say fuck those teeth [20:35] yeah [20:35] agentc0re: just got it off of there lol [20:35] lol [20:36] those are all the downloads i know of. [20:36] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:36] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-174.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:36] I have my wisdom teeth and they used to get infected quite a bit [20:36] i just had 3 wisdom teeth removed back on may 21 [20:36] well besides the converter tool that will convert your windows Vmware guests to xen guests. [20:36] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:36] or rather the gums around them did [20:36] tools-iso.tar.bz2 I think is what I was looking for [20:37] juice: would you say it was ultimately worth it? [20:37] found it agentc0re [20:37] you dont' really have a choice with wisdom teeth [20:37] hehe figures.. it won't install on slackware [20:37] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:38] well one of mine was impacted so yes it was facing towards my other teeth and pushing into them and had a cavity in it [20:38] thrice`: some people have them come in just fine but mine were of the impacted horizontal satanic type [20:38] however I also go dry socket with it which sucked because I hadn't had much pain from it yet before that [20:38] but it has been fine the past few weeks [20:38] juice: did they give you the herb thing? [20:38] I mean, you don't normally have a choice as to "if you want them out or not" [20:38] I liked having my wisdom teeth cut out.. the pain meds were awesome [20:38] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@187.5.193.169) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:38] i used clove oil on it [20:38] juice: yep [20:39] I'd guess 85+% need em out . it's really not bad at all [20:39] but I went in and they packed it also [20:39] but I was using clove oil on my own [20:39] like Dominian and I said, the narcotics make it fun [20:39] they gave me percocet [20:39] i had 500/5MG [20:39] i still have a full bottle of it [20:39] I NEED THAT NOW [20:39] juice: hey buddy [20:39] ;) [20:39] noooooooooow [20:39] lol [20:39] used 1 bottle up but with the dry socket it didn't help [20:40] maybe only for an hour [20:40] Simbioz (n=simbiozz@190.196.44.9) joined ##slackware. [20:40] i feel like running five miles [20:40] cause of the pain [20:40] and you can only take 1 every 6 hours [20:40] lw0x15, find some cloves or clove oil [20:40] i took a week off work and just got stoned out of my mind on the prescription. by the time i was out it worst was over [20:40] it will alleviate the pain [20:41] i doubt ill find that now at 2am [20:41] somewhere [20:41] lw0x15: have a drink, swill some whiskey around [20:41] lol [20:41] i got nitrous oxide while they were pulled [20:41] that made me feel nice a relaxed [20:41] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:41] s/a/and [20:41] I don't know what they gave me on the table but he said count to 10 and i got to 2 then i woke up and it was over [20:41] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:42] i didn't get put out [20:42] just local numbing [20:43] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-206-106.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [20:43] i told him that I didn't want to know what was going on and i didn't want any memory of the surgery at all [20:43] he made sure of that [20:43] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-192-243.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:43] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [20:44] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:44] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) joined ##slackware. [20:46] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:46] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) joined ##slackware. [20:47] _alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [20:50] Jean (n=jean@jean.xen.prgmr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:50] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:50] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:50] antiwire: http://tinyurl.com/myh7cn [20:51] antiwire: that [20:51] err [20:51] antiwire: That's a good one to watch too. [20:51] Well so far at anyways, i'm still watching it. [20:51] Iran is having some major issues [20:51] antiwire: was it in the hospital or not ? [20:52] cause she asked if i wanted hospital enviroment or not [20:52] :( [20:52] can anyone help? [20:52] I must shower I think [20:52] iran rulez [20:52] Lexus1 (n=BastionH@62.165.60.236) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:52] dhw, that's what a real country does when it feels like it's been cheated [20:52] it doesn't just shut up and go back to starbucks [20:52] ;) [20:52] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:52] lol [20:53] Lexus1 (n=BastionH@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [20:53] sad but true [20:54] lw0x15: i did it at an out patient facility [20:55] antiwire, enlargement ? [20:55] jeev: just ask your girlfriend about it [20:55] teehee [20:56] dont make me cock slap you into a shark infested lagoon too! [20:56] _juan (i=500@200.84.124.34) joined ##slackware. [20:56] smoked a fag [20:56] a bit calmer no [20:56] now [20:56] lol [20:57] antiwire: same thing was on my right side [20:57] but gum overgrow the hole [20:57] and its fine now [20:57] lol [20:57] now its the lft [20:57] Channel flood from lw0x15 -- kicking [20:57] left* [20:57] lw0x15 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [20:57] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:57] http://imagebin.org/52477 (Rated G) [20:58] alright mate calm down lol [20:58] lol [20:58] lw0x15, it's a bot [20:58] i know >_> [20:58] Pig_Pen: LOL that is so freaking awesome! [20:58] stupid lakers [20:58] yeah, thats the logic they use [20:59] lol and i am roman catholic [21:00] Time is 5:59pm, computer has been up for 2w 2d 6h 43m 11s [21:00] peeeeeee youu [21:00] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: "reb00t weendows" [21:00] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:01] my irssi has been running longer than that [21:01] Action: agentc0re invites all to the "jeev's left party" [21:01] ;) [21:01] doh [21:02] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@187.5.193.169) joined ##slackware. [21:02] nooper: lmao [21:04] agentc0re: that tinyurl you posted is brutal. [21:04] i mean that in an interesting, wtf, brainwashing way too [21:04] antiwire: Isn't it? But doesn't it give you a good 3rd party point of view? [21:04] yeah it's great [21:05] Gerhardt (n=Gerhardt@d60-65-15-207.col.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [21:05] the scenes in the church with the singing and the kids, that is what is brutal. [21:05] it's brainwashing them before they can even make a decision for themselves. [21:06] i am only roman catholic cause of my family [21:07] _d4rks1d3_ (n=t@189-11-18-198.mganm703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:07] that does not mean you have to believe, just think of it like being a member of a country club [21:07] _d4rks1d3_ (n=t@189-11-18-198.mganm703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:07] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [21:07] anyone involved in testing freenode's ssl connection? (port 9003) [21:08] or testnet.freenode.net [21:08] god vista blows [21:08] i can't connect [21:08] dood this isn't #freenode [21:08] oops [21:08] how funny, im talking about vista [21:08] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:08] wrong tab [21:08] :) [21:09] *eagleheart staggers out, punchdrunk [21:10] Gerhardt (n=Gerhardt@d60-65-15-207.col.wideopenwest.com) left ##slackware. [21:10] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [21:12] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-182-88.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:12] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [21:13] Heya,folks...How's everyone? [21:13] eagleheart (n=lxer1@adsl-218-109-222.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:14] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] Simbioz (n=simbiozz@190.196.44.9) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:16] like shit :( [21:16] hmm?!?..O_o [21:16] looks like someone has the case of the pre-mondays [21:16] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@187.5.193.169) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:17] if i wouldnt feel like banging my head against the wall [21:17] i'd be fine lolo [21:17] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@187.5.193.169) joined ##slackware. [21:17] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@187.5.193.169) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:18] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [21:19] bryanlharris (n=bharris@66-190-66-200.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:22] excelblue (n=excelblu@unaffiliated/excelblue) left ##slackware. [21:24] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:26] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [21:26] Hey MLanden, how are you doing? [21:27] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) left irc: No route to host [21:27] Doin' fine firebird619..Just relaxin' for the evenin'...and you? [21:27] doing excellent, thanks. The weather is great again today. [21:29] suprisin' 'nough, the weather hasn't been too bad here in eastern Virginia [21:30] Here in Minnesota, it's not often there's excellent weather like we've had here. Usually it's hot and humid. [21:31] we are having a lot of humidity here, lots of thick air coming up from the south [21:31] Today, for example, it got to 75F (70's - lower 80s are perfect imo) with a very little breeze and no humidity, it's just a great day out today. [21:31] Where 'bouts,NukeDukem [21:31] NukeDukem: I hate the humidity. :P [21:31] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [21:31] oklahoma [21:31] hello [21:31] heya,gabriel [21:32] :) [21:32] Hi gabriel_ [21:32] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:32] i'm having a fight [21:32] gabriel_: with yourself? :P [21:33] yeah [21:33] over what? [21:33] installing slack 12.2 on a usb stick [21:33] btw, don't be too hard on yourself. ;) [21:33] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:33] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:33] fight it [21:33] fight it until one dies. [21:34] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Changing server" [21:34] http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/usbinstall/12.2/ [21:34] using this script [21:35] in the boot, "missing operating system" [21:35] gabriel_: What's the make of your usb stick? [21:36] corsair [21:36] 8GB [21:36] gabriel_: let us know how that turns out [21:38] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@187.5.193.169) joined ##slackware. [21:38] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:38] i create the usb img [21:38] copy it to the stick with dd [21:38] suid0_ (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [21:38] hm doesn't that script just put the files on your USB stick so you can isntall them *on* another computer. /Not/ install slackware on a USB drive? [21:38] firebird_619 (n=fbird@173-17-139-66.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [21:39] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:39] Ugh, yesterday and today my connection has been horrible. :( [21:39] yup [21:39] Nick change: firebird_619 -> firebird619 [21:40] if you want Linux on a USB thumbdrive get a copy of Slax (usb tarball) unpack on a fat32 formated thumbdrive (read the doc for making it bootable) [21:40] ummm [21:40] NukeDukem: that reminds me, I downloaded slax yesterday just to try, and then I forgot, thanks for the reminder. :P [21:40] NukeDukem: ... i don't think the jedi council would agree with that. [21:41] agentc0re: lol [21:41] agentc0re: What's his punishment? [21:41] i dont follow the jedi council, i follow the ninja council :D [21:41] Hrmm i sense much hatred in this one.. [21:42] indeed [21:42] The resilience in this one is strong. [21:42] Ficthe (n=roee@unaffiliated/ficthe) left ##slackware ("::"). [21:44] unless slackware installs and boots & runs on a usb thumbdrive... [21:45] it can [21:45] with work [21:46] gabriel_: are you looking to actually install slackware on thumbdrive. OR are you looking to make an thumbdrive *installer* [21:46] the first :P [21:46] Then why did you link to that page? [21:48] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:48] because if a usb installer don't work... [21:49] i'm testing both [21:49] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-74-69-172-241.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:49] but i'm interesting in install slack over a stick [21:50] i took a lot of time making a slackbuild for denyhost and i just found fail2ban which seems to work as denyhost ! [21:50] am i wrong when i say that fail2ban works like denyhost [21:50] not at all of course :) [21:50] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:51] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [21:51] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-19-129-196.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [21:51] gabriel_: Did you set the format of the USB to a dos partition and partition for linux? [21:51] hey guys :D [21:51] fluxnuk3r: heya [21:52] no [21:52] dive: you alive man? [21:52] maybe the first question is...is possible install slackware on a usb stick? [21:53] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [21:54] install? yes, boot up & run? not without an expertly custom built kernel [21:54] Nick change: suid0_ -> suid0 [21:58] NukeDukem, expertly? [21:59] does someone of you notice that when dowloading some files from the server of fastbull for soourceforge.net, there's nothing [21:59] really weird , [21:59] NukeDukem, isn't it a simple matter of building a kernel with usb and usb mass storage support? [21:59] wouldn't it just be a matter of using the -huge kernel? [22:00] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [22:00] Urchlay, wasn't sure that the -huge had usb mass storage built in [22:00] paissad: with sourceforge,you need to double check with some servers to see what is online and what isn't [22:00] am not sure myself actually [22:00] Decoy- (n=Decoy@rrcs-70-63-108-15.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:00] CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=y [22:01] Urchlay, then it does [22:01] also CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y [22:01] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:01] MLanden, i would like to do so, but the matter is that, when i click onto the link to download a file, the automatic selected server is fastbull, i have less than 1 second to change the server for download, it's annoying ! [22:02] the one confusing bit there: I believe when you boot from USB, some (maybe all?) BIOSes remap it so it appears as disk ID 0x80 (aka C: in windows) [22:03] so you may have to use root=/dev/sda1 in lilo.conf even if, during the install, it's showing up as some other device [22:04] (I may be talking out of my ass, though. Haven't booted from a USB stick except once just to see if it worked) [22:05] Urchlay: only some bioses remap the drive settings like that [22:05] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:05] is it maybe an option that could be disabled in cmos? [22:06] however - I believe that usb sticks are typically accessed as a generic scsi device [22:06] in linux they are [22:06] in the bios, dunno (and LILO is still using the bios for disk access) [22:06] the one PC i have that can boot from USB thumbdrives wont even show it unless i put the thumbdrive in and before POST starts hold down F11 and get a BIOS boot menu to select USB [22:08] paissad: you might see if googling sourceforge mirror might help [22:09] if you allow cookies from sourceforge, you can choose a mirror and make it the default for that browser [22:09] (although that won't help you with wget so much...) [22:10] NukeDukem: How does it state USB as USB-FD? [22:11] I guess you can't mount shared folders with VirtualBox using its binary release, right? [22:11] or USB-HD? [22:11] it even lists the namebrand of the usb drive Lexar [22:11] USB Jumpdrive Lexar (or something like that) [22:12] OK [22:12] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:14] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [22:18] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:18] i opted out on putting bacon around the asparagus when i grill it [22:19] rib eye is a good choice when new york strip looks pathetic [22:19] i usually saute it in butter in a skillet [22:19] yup, i love broiled ribeye [22:19] lately i've been in a grillin kick especially with asparagus heh [22:20] but it's his birthday today so i've delt with baby so he didnt have to and he got to sleep in longer. and he asked for steak for bday dinner [22:20] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [22:22] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:22] sounds awesome,nix_chix0r [22:24] he's lucky next sunday is fathers day [22:25] nix_chix0r: hear ya [22:26] that's like a gauranteed two weeks of being pampered:)) [22:26] after that he can get the monkey boy [22:26] nix_chix0r: you should start a restaurant, bar and grill or something. :P [22:27] i should, or like a bed and breakfast [22:27] but serve dinner haha [22:27] there ya go. :) [22:27] maybe when i retire that's what i'll do [22:27] i'll buy a big house and convert half of it. [22:28] now you got your years after retirement planned out. :D [22:28] yeahh [22:28] i'm so happy i got that sep ira as well [22:28] Do you like to cook? [22:28] cause i sure as hell can't survive off retirement [22:28] oh yes i'm most happy cooking [22:28] that or doing auto body [22:28] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.150.224) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:28] you work on cars too? [22:29] i keep putting off buying my new car but i want to get one i really like. [22:29] yeah i took two years of welding and autobody [22:29] wow, the world needs a whole bunch more of nix_chix0r's. :P [22:29] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:29] i can handle my own [22:29] :) [22:29] :) [22:30] _juan (i=500@200.84.124.34) left irc: "Leaving" [22:31] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [22:32] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:33] midnight_sun (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [22:33] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [22:34] heh, fortune: "All my life I wanted to be someone; I guess I should have been more specific." Jane Wagner [22:34] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. 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[22:39] MLanden: Yeah someone mentioned early on asking if it was a livecd. I said yeah it was. See it would save anything when you would reboot like other live cd's. So I read how to put in and xp partition and edit the boot.ini file [22:39] know with Slax it gives you a way of RYO boot iso..might need to go through the scripts and include that driver [22:40] I made a partition for it and it isn't in the xp partition [22:40] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:40] i figured out how to place it elsewhere [22:41] Rupp: good to hear [22:41] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.2.122) joined ##slackware. [22:41] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:42] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:42] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [22:42] MLanden: Not that you were really worried if I got it fixed or not just wanted to tell you anyway [22:43] MLanden: No a lot of people that have a dualboot and combined they are only 500mb haha [22:44] Decoy- (n=Decoy@rrcs-70-63-108-15.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:44] Nick change: SuN -> Dominus [22:44] Nick change: Dominus -> EuroTrash [22:44] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:45] there is always a lot of people in here [22:45] bryanlharris (n=bharris@66-190-66-200.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:45] ^^ [22:45] idling [22:45] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: "leaving" [22:46] no,not a lot of people,rupp [22:46] 297 people here right now. Most of them don't ever say a word. :P [22:46] I guess they're waiting for slackware 13 [22:46] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:46] sadly I can't use anything like that do to my hardware [22:46] firebird619, mke2fs -j /dev/sdc1 [22:47] gm145 (n=gm145@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Quitting!" [22:47] i should have been doing that [22:47] firebird619: What exactly do you want me to say? [22:47] nix_chix0r: that got things working? [22:47] cmk_zzz: whatever you want. :P [22:47] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:47] cmk_zzz: you're in here alot and talking. :P [22:47] so you're doing good. [22:48] MLanden: Not wanting to bug you incase you are busy but how long have you been using linux? Do you think more people are going to be using it? [22:48] firebird619, well yeah i just realised that being it's a new hard drive it's not partitioned heh [22:48] yeah. But what comes out of my mouth is mostly gibberish. If I only talked when I had something 'important' to say I would be dead silent [22:48] lol, yeah, that would cause issues. ;) [22:49] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [22:49] never a bug,rupp...'bout 10 or so years...linux/bsd....hard to say on how many might use linux [22:50] btw making it fat32 on windows in the cmd, apparently doesn't allow a volume size of 1tb. maybe 30gb max [22:50] 1TB fat32 is a terrible idea [22:50] NTFS is much better suited for that [22:50] it was ntfs but it wasn't reading [22:50] you exponentially loose space that way [22:50] just said it was mounted unreadable [22:50] true,straterra,,,,,that would be a nightmare [22:50] did you use ntfs-3g? [22:51] and was it cleanly unmounted? [22:51] ntfs-3g didn't work it gave me an error i forgot which, [22:51] i posted it a while back [22:51] MLanden: A lot of those guys at the K-Meleon forums use linux and just windows to test K-Meleon lol. I have no clue why it can't be used here :( [22:52] nix_chix0r: make a 100 meg partition, then the rest one big partition [22:52] make the 100 meg a fat32 partition [22:52] make the rest ext3 [22:52] put the windows ext3 driver in the fat32 partition...done [22:52] why dont they make linux build of k-meleon? it would be prefered more than firefox among the linux community nowadays [22:52] i'm making it ext3 right now [22:53] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) left irc: "Saliendo" [22:53] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:53] NukeDukem: I think the closest thing to that would be galeon [22:54] or anyway that's what galeon originally was. I think maybe it's succumbed to gnomish bloat now though [22:54] antiwire: do you want those that we talked about earlier? [22:54] Urchlay: most of the packages I've seen for galeon are [22:55] galeon is obsolete and gnome dependent [22:55] Action: cmk_zzz hates bloat [22:55] slackware used to come with galeon in the 9.somthing days, it was nice on my old laptop [22:55] (compared to firefox I mean) [22:56] i been using dillo [22:56] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-29-12.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:56] last I tried dillo it wasn't quite functional enough for me [22:57] text and graphics is all i can get out of it, i can log in with cookies enabled, no animated graphics and no plugins, thats good enough for me [22:58] think cookies weren't even supported back when I tried it [22:58] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [22:58] and bloat or not, I really like form-field history (which wasn't there) [22:58] it is in dillo 2 but you have to enable them, they are disabled by default [22:59] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:59] like, I'm doing web dev and I have to enter the same fake name/address/ssn/etc over & over & over again... [22:59] Hi. im compiling virtualbox-ose.slackbuild on slackware64 and a msg return: cannot compile 32-bit applications (missing headers and/or libraries) - What is missing to install? [23:00] powtrix: nothing.. [23:00] (and yes, I can automate it with wget or perl or something, but eventually it all has to be tested with the same browser the user will use) [23:00] Slackware64 is pure 64-bit [23:00] No 32-bit [23:00] nothing is missing from slackware64 [23:00] oh well [23:00] http://www.dillo.org/Cookies.txt [23:00] however you can *add* something to slackware64 to get 32-bit compatibility [23:00] when i do pm-suspend or pm-hibernate, i got nothing :-) [23:00] fuckkkkk yeahhh [23:00] it works [23:01] Action: nix_chix0r break dances [23:01] on my laptop, it does work nice ! [23:01] but not for the PC [23:01] i new i should have just partitioned it [23:01] dumb me [23:01] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] Urchlay, what could i *add*? [23:01] firebird619, i can't go outside to flip the steaks becuse there are two june bugs on my porch buzzin around like crazy [23:02] had to get him to do it [23:02] fred's -compat32 packages, which I was going to paste you the URL for, except I got lost in the 30+ open tabs I have right now [23:02] powtrix: here's a mirror, but it's in romania: http://mirrors.evolva.ro/slamd64/slackware64-current/source/l-compat32/ [23:02] nix_chix0r: haha, at least he'll do it, otherwise you'd have burnt steaks. :P [23:02] and it looks old [23:02] oh l-compat32, will check [23:03] this is my last arttery clogging meal for a while [23:03] why not just use the 64-bit version of virtualbox? [23:03] yah. Be aware that compat32 stuff isn't part of slackware64 [23:03] so don't go reporting any bugs to Pat [23:03] firebird619, i say that becuase i put a half a stick of butter on the asparagus with onions [23:03] chopp: you can't freakin' compile it [23:03] really [23:03] chopp: compiling 64-bit vbox still needs 32-bit support (for the guest tools, it says) [23:04] but I tried hacking it up to not compile the guest tools, and it still failed [23:04] ended up compiling vbox chroot'd into my old slamd64 install [23:04] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [23:04] i setup x86_64 at slackbuild but it asks about that [23:04] nix_chix0r: wow [23:05] once I built a package that way, it installs/runs just fine on -current64 [23:05] even if i do pm-suspend --auto-quirks, i got nothing [23:05] Hey Rat409, how's it going? btw, that was the link you had given me before, thanks again. [23:05] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:05] sure glad it helped :) [23:05] helped alot. :) [23:06] firebird619, yeah starting tomorrow, i go to the gym with a couple of co workers since my medical covers it [23:06] saves me 40bucks a month [23:06] nice [23:06] firebird619: does it take a while to get a cloak? [23:07] dhw: no, takes just a few seconds. You just have to ask a freenode staffer, they set it, you log out and in of freenode, and there it is. [23:07] hrm [23:07] dhw: As long as you complete the 7 steps and have had your nick registered for a minimum of 2 weeks it is very quick [23:07] oh opps 2 weeks [23:07] did not meet that [23:07] any of you guys have xfx boards? [23:07] Hey fluxnuk3r, how's it going? [23:07] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [23:08] dhw: guess you'll have to wait. :P [23:08] sorta lousy -.- [23:08] how come? [23:08] chess (n=chess@unaffiliated/chess) joined ##slackware. [23:08] slackware is literally the only distro that will load on my computer xD [23:08] firebird619: was that on the nick reg page? [23:08] what? [23:08] i wanted to try to dual lenny.. [23:08] dhw: I am not sure, I wonder if it wasn't. [23:09] fluxnuk3r: what happens with debian? [23:09] You don't need to believe me. Just go ask in #freenode [23:09] dhw (n=dhw@ip70-171-182-160.om.om.cox.net) left irc: [23:09] antiwire: and whoop, there he goes. :P [23:09] dhw (n=dhw@ip70-171-182-160.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] any idea what could cause debian, centos, fedora, and vector to not boot? [23:10] fire [23:10] antiwire: I belive you, just was wondering if it was on that page. [23:10] debian stops at trying to start logs [23:10] alternate, ice [23:10] or a combination of the two (that would be [23:10] steam) [23:10] any of the above will keep all those OSes from booting... [23:11] omg.. [23:11] and slackware ignores all those? xD [23:11] :P [23:11] fluxnuk3r: do you have all of the above issues? :P [23:11] :) [23:11] haha, it sure does. :) [23:11] it just starts up and does nothing. [23:11] drops me into an emergency shell [23:12] (which does like nothing) [23:12] when you're in the emergency shell, are your filesystems mounted? [23:12] if not, what happens if you try to mount them? [23:12] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) joined ##slackware. [23:12] didnt check.. [23:13] does debian actually have that? where you get an emergency shell? i just got it on gentoo and centos.. [23:13] also, running dmesg inside that emerg shell might tell you a little something [23:13] hellifiknow [23:13] lol [23:13] k [23:13] any idea when 12.3 is coming out? [23:13] lol [23:13] lol [23:13] im still on 12.1 [23:13] never [23:13] it's going to be 13.0 :) [23:13] o.O [23:14] really? [23:14] yup [23:14] :D [23:14] unless pat changes his mind (which he's done before) [23:14] lol [23:14] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [23:14] I'm on current now. [23:14] Hey antler [23:14] it good fire? [23:14] Urchlay: it could be 14? :P [23:14] fire good [23:14] lol [23:14] No, frankenstein, fire bad [23:14] fluxnuk3r: excellent, I love it. I'm using kde4. [23:14] ug. Fire bad. Bread good. [23:14] nice [23:14] lol [23:15] i'll have to do a manual upgrade [23:15] fire bread, not good. [23:15] burns mouth [23:15] 12.12 screwed me up sooo bad. [23:15] fire bread... to-o-oasst? [23:15] no audio worked, cd drive worked sometimes, it was weird [23:16] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:16] stealth- (n=stealth@unaffiliated/stealth-) left ##slackware (" 'leaving channel'"). [23:17] steaks done oh boy [23:17] could be a slackbuild for vbox-binary? if -ose needs 32bit libs it could not be compiled on pure slackwa64. [23:17] :O [23:17] everybody head for nix_chix0r's house. :) [23:17] lol [23:17] you missed my grill :P [23:17] stealth- (n=stealth@unaffiliated/stealth-) joined ##slackware. [23:18] steaks and asparagus on the house gogo [23:18] no big deal rib eye is ok;) [23:18] I'm in the same state as her, I'll get there quicker. :) [23:18] i'm sure you'l get here before my brother does [23:18] he may be out of luck [23:19] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:20] Yudha_HT (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:20] powtrix: AFAIK there is no slackbuild script for the closed-src virtualbox, but the installer should work fine (I think it installs to /opt/VirtualBox by default, so it won't step on your /usr/bin directory) [23:20] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [23:20] MLanden: Atleast you don't have to wear a shirt that says "I survived Vista" lol [23:21] hey firebird619 :) [23:21] Rupp: I know a guy who owns a shirt that says "I survived Barrens chat." [23:21] lol [23:21] antler: how's it going? [23:21] hoho (n=hooh@190.80.196.90) joined ##slackware. [23:22] I know a windows computer that still worked after it accidently flew out of a window 2 stories up one time [23:22] i'm good even though tomorrow's monday :P how are you? [23:22] doing excellent, thanks. [23:23] antler: still rockin kde4. :D [23:23] hahah wobbly windows is way better than compiz-fusion wobbly, huh? [23:23] now, does your window go semi-transparent when you click and hold it? [23:24] antler: yes, it does. It's so nice. It performs better than compiz [23:24] no, I actually have to take my sleeve and rub it in a circular motion to even get close to semi-transarancy [23:24] uva (i=bno@118-168-236-48.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:25] firebird619: yeah, that's what i think as well [23:25] cmk_zzz: haha [23:25] antler: I like konsole's true transparency also. I discovered that a month or two ago. [23:26] firebird619: in kde4? [23:26] antler: It works in kde3 too. It's a cli option when starting konsole. [23:26] anyway. What are we discussing here? kde4 eye candy? [23:26] cmk_zzz: yeah [23:26] firebird619: are you serious that it works in kde3? what's the option? [23:27] cool. I need to find some drivers for my graphics card so that I can try 'em out. [23:27] antler: It worked for me in kde3. I'm not sure if it depends on any certain video card driver or anything though. [23:27] what's the option? do you recall? [23:27] are there any video driver issues in slackware? [23:27] antler: I'm looking for it. sec. :) [23:28] I have always had a bitch of a time getting my video card to work [23:28] dhw: I don't think there are any slackware specific video drivers no [23:28] antler: When I find it here, I'll let you know. It worked excellent for me. [23:28] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:28] of course there aren't. Video drivers are not distro-related. [23:28] firebird619: k [23:29] I have ran into issues with my video drivers on gentoo, that I did not run into on debian [23:29] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:29] dhw: sounds like PEBKAC. [23:30] What issues? [23:30] antler: I had discovered it by googling one day about transparent terminals, and I came across it. There's alot out there about patching konsole, etc. but all I needed to do was use this option with it. [23:30] berkough (n=berkough@ip70-180-205-180.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] one problem might be, gentoo uses bleeding-edge versions of everything, but debian doesn't [23:30] would just throw a X11 error [23:30] what up people? been a while since I've been in chat [23:30] I think it only happened when I tried to enable something [23:30] "X -configure" almost always works fine for me. [23:30] dhw: that is an implementation issue which could also relate to the whole stack of x related software from the driver versions to X software versions. [23:31] heya,berkough [23:31] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-38.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:31] firebird619: k, i'll google it. i didn't that konsole did real transparency. that it did pseudo transparency, i knew about [23:31] berkough: while you were gone, we had a peasant rebellion. After much bloodshed, it was put down, but the rabble are still murmuring treasonous imprecations when they think we can't hear them [23:31] I think I eneded up fixing it by switching to an older version of x11 [23:32] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:32] lol, nice Urchlay [23:32] hanging's too good for 'em [23:32] and no, I have no idea where I'm going with this [23:32] I say make 'em use Noobuntu for a month [23:32] right now I have friends in LA that are mobbing the streets... Last I heard they were marching on Figeroua [23:32] heh, using ubunturd is what made them peasants in the first place :) [23:32] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [23:32] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:33] antler: yeah it does true as well. I'm looking the konsole settings right now. I don't have a transparent scheme in konsole now. I'm trying to figure it out. [23:33] wb Rat409 [23:33] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [23:33] Lakers won, that's why [23:33] the NBA is passe' these days... [23:34] night all [23:34] lol, people say that, but there's still a lot of fans [23:34] night hitest [23:34] night firebird619 [23:34] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:34] all those fans will be gone tomorrow [23:34] and forgotten about [23:34] still wish they'd invent the DAFL... Drug Addict Football League [23:35] they might be crappy at playing football but it'd be hilarious to watch [23:35] lol [23:35] antler: ok, got it. For me, I had to remake a transparent scheme (you shouldn't have to do this). Anyway, select a transparent scheme in konsole, then, from a terminal or the run dialog box, run konsole --force-transparency. This works here for me. [23:35] lol, seriously right, I couldn't care less about a bunch of roided out atheletes [23:35] there's still mandatory drug testing like the NFL has, only you get trouble for not meeting the minimum blood levels of 3 or 4 various substances [23:35] that's more interesting than watching "normal" humans compete [23:36] between plays, they get into a huddle and pass the crack pipe around [23:36] does anyone here have a dedicated server with multiple IPs? i'm wondering how they assign those IPs to you [23:36] i mean, if they're just aliases on a network interface, or maybe somethign else [23:36] that surely varies by provider [23:36] Urchlay: Who's their mascot, Keith Richards? [23:36] hell yeah! [23:36] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:36] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-29-12.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "fui" [23:37] rob0: probably, but i'm just looking for how maybe just one provider does it [23:37] amazon, we just added the IP addresses on a single interface, but we could have had multiple machines. [23:37] he can try to sing the national anthem before the game, and stop after the first verse and go "Wait, what country am I in?" [23:37] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [23:38] bijit (n=benji@200.122.188.156) left irc: "leaving" [23:38] we're on a /29 all to ourselves [23:38] rob0: okay, thanks [23:38] Rupp (n=Rupp@c-24-131-125-51.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:38] Urchlay: lol...hear ya [23:38] rob0: that's 8 usable addresses, right? [23:38] antler: Some sites are also saying to use konsole --real-transparency. [23:39] bbiab [23:39] well, we have a network address, a router address, and a broadcast (which technically IS usable.) [23:39] Urchlay: That has happened before you know... In some 'big' international sport they played the wrong anthem for Spain. They played the old one they had when Franco was a dictator... [23:39] we only bound the 5 "traditionally usable" addresses. [23:39] cmk_zzz: by accident? [23:40] Urchlay: I hope so:) [23:40] rob0: do you mind if i ask who you rent from? i'm looking into getting a dedicated server soon (or maybe colo-ing it) [23:41] I don't mind you asking, but I think they're going out of business soon. :( [23:41] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left irc: "peixe" [23:41] oh there is a place I can recommend, not for colo, but for dedicated [23:42] great [23:42] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:42] snowdonkey (i=1000@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:42] (trying to find it) [23:42] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:42] bah [23:42] I am lazy [23:42] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:43] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:43] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [23:44] firebird619: heh that takes away the pseduo-transparency for me [23:45] amazon10x_: CoreNetworks.net [23:45] Take care,folks....talk with y'all later [23:45] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-182-88.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:45] I'll be back in a bit.. had a question, but it'll have to wait for a few. [23:46] berkough (n=berkough@ip70-180-205-180.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:46] the 30/month would be adequate for most needs [23:47] well, i'd need something beefier i think. 2 or 4G of ram with two cores probably [23:47] antler: haha, seriously? :P [23:48] and like 3TB of transfer probably. i think i'll contact these corenetworks people and get a custom quote though [23:48] the prices on their page seem good [23:49] polatov (n=polatov@213.211.101.184) joined ##slackware. [23:49] firebird619: heh yeah [23:50] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:50] ali0t4 (n=ali0t4@123.120.159.234) joined ##slackware. [23:51] amazon10x_: I researched it and determined that they are not spam-friendly, one of their names is listed as "white hat network" by Spamhaus. [23:51] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] dunno if they are going out of business rob0 ... [23:53] although I do know they filed for a "restructing" backruptcy.. which isn't good.. but isn't bad either... too early to tell really [23:53] oh yeah? That would be good news. [23:53] rob0: well bummer. i was going to add this to my spam botnet :P [23:54] Amazon, I wasn't accusing you of being a spammer, just letting you know that I consider them worthy of the money they ask. [23:54] yeah i know. i'm just playing. they look pretty solid; have you used them before? [23:55] _ohm (n=mark@pool-71-99-30-120.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:56] rob0: I still haven't found out what happened last night though [23:57] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:57] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:58] Dominian, something in the global routing tables, I guess, based on what I was seeing. [23:58] rob0: yah [00:00] --- Mon Jun 15 2009