[00:00] s/while/after/ [00:00] mrpwnage : can you direct me to a relevant learning material? [00:00] crocket: /usr/share/hal/fdi/ [00:00] Necos : I think hal rules are the right place. [00:01] With autostart.sh, I would see flickerings between the laptop and the external monitors. [00:01] not gonna hurt my feelings :) [00:01] It wouldn't hurt my feeling weeks ago [00:01] But now I want more and more. [00:01] does it really matter if you get a flicker while your monitors adjust (it's like 3-4 seconds) [00:02] slackers do tend to be greedy [00:02] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [00:02] speak for yourself :P [00:02] haha [00:02] Slackers have achived too much to want a flicker. [00:02] sbs` (~mfd@CPE001ee57a9930-CM001a6683085e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [00:03] It's a success instinct. [00:03] hehe [00:03] most laptops have a function key that allows you to turn of the lcd display [00:03] mrpwnage : It doesn't work with LG E300 laptop keyboards. [00:03] im having the damndest problem with binaries not working on my x64 machine [00:03] Maybe those binaries are not x64. [00:04] heh [00:04] It could be x86 [00:04] is there something i can do to make em work? [00:04] Install multilib [00:04] crocket: very true, the best part about slackers is that they will waste considerable amounts of time trying to eliminate a 3-4 second flicker [00:04] I don't know it would solve anything [00:05] sbs` : try this http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [00:05] Multilib would enable executing 32bit binaries. [00:05] sbs`: maybe your x64 machine doesn't like binaries [00:06] i'll check out multilib, thanks. [00:06] crocket: what video driver? [00:06] mrpwnage : radeon [00:07] It's an open source driver. [00:07] installed by slackware64 13.1 [00:07] mwnn`` (~user@59.92.161.3) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:08] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:08] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:08] arcfide (~arcfide@adsl-99-75-51-152.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:09] Alabarda (~david@189.11.214.34) joined ##slackware. [00:10] crocket: http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html [00:11] mrpwnage : Is it udev rules? not hal rules? [00:11] crocket: udev is your friend :) [00:11] crocket: same thing [00:12] I've met udev before. [00:12] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:12] just an acquaintance. [00:12] i'm looking for a good example [00:13] Is there any hint about setting udev/hal rules for monitors? [00:13] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:13] el_lobo--d-_-b, Left "Left 0xFF51 0x71" <-- it's the 0x71 value im trying to correct :/ [00:14] Alabarda (~david@189.11.214.34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:14] crocket: have a look at /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-power-mgmt-policy.fdi [00:14] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.254.94.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:15] mrpwnage, It's different from udev rules. [00:15] rheault (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:16] ? [00:16] udev rules are things like KERNEL=="USB", GROUP="plugdev". [00:17] It's an xml. [00:17] yes [00:17] my mistake [00:17] i'm not paying attention. :)' [00:17] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [00:17] trying to do 20 things at once [00:17] mrpwnage, I was scared to learn udev. [00:18] no, it is hal indeed. :D [00:18] fdi/policy and all that jive [00:18] I'm scared to learn hal, too [00:19] then live with your lcd problem? [00:19] mrpwnage : no [00:20] I'm just worred by the idea that I could become a linux developer when I want to do it casually. [00:20] ...? [00:21] that's a pretty shitty cop-out [00:21] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: Quit: .. [00:22] crocket, then you might want to consider something else besides linux [00:22] No it's not dangerous yet. [00:23] I just have few more settings to do and I'll use it without thoughts. [00:24] Action: Necos blinks [00:25] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-157-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] ugh [00:25] Where is the PPD file for the Samsung ML-1610 printer? [00:26] CUPS cannot find it [00:26] so i recompiled audacious-plugins, and now it's saying that it's an unsupported audio type... >.> [00:26] did you install foomatic? [00:26] Isn't that a SlackBuild package? [00:27] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:27] which doesn't answer the question :) [00:27] D'oh! [00:27] Touche! [00:27] foomatic has extra printer drivers, so you should install it [00:28] :P [00:29] I thought foomatic was on the cups site - not part of cups install? [00:29] nope [00:30] fuck >.<; [00:31] anyone have a working mp4-decoding build of audacious? >.<; [00:32] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.254.94.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:32] ok - where is foomatic at then? [00:34] that's a damn good question... looks like some things were changed in 13.1 >.> [00:35] tehrabbitt-2 (~tehrabbit@c-71-59-82-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:36] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [00:36] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:37] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [00:37] tehrabbitt-2 (~tehrabbit@c-71-59-82-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:37] looks like it's been redistributed to the other packages [00:37] so if you have foomatic-filters installed, you should have everything you need [00:37] officergris (~officergr@cpe-69-76-129-255.kc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:39] aha! [00:39] i just needed to disable the mp4 aac decoder and let ffmpeg take care of it [00:39] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [00:40] ffmpeg is the versatile. [00:40] indeed it is [00:41] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:41] gh0st (~gh0st@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:41] foomatic is not available on SlackBuilds [00:42] However, this package do exist in the system: "foomatic-filters-4.0.4-i486-1 [inst=yes]: foomatic-filters (Universal print filter/RIP wrapper" [00:43] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [00:43] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware. [00:44] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@94.41.102.40.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:44] asarch (~asarch@189.188.153.57) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:46] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:48] bjx (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) joined ##slackware. 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[01:26] heh, gimp doesn't work either [01:26] this kde 4 is messing with my brain [01:26] why won't gimp run? [01:26] type /usr/bin/gimp at a terminal [01:27] hmmm [01:27] brb [01:28] gonna restart X [01:28] leontopod (~leontopod@intertwingled.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:28] ^^ [01:29] mrpwnage: is that as pathetic as i think it is? [01:30] looks like it [01:30] Action: nyRednek shakes his head... [01:30] pity [01:30] :) [01:31] mrpwnage: if i was ever that bad, i apologize [01:31] nyRednek, do you also have a nick that starts nyJ ? [01:31] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-65.fpscc.den.wayport.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:31] i don';t get it... :( [01:32] alisonken1noc: i don't think so [01:32] ok - must have been someone else I was thinking of then [01:32] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:32] alisonken1noc: i'm also yosii, jewbacca, etc [01:32] ah - jewbacca was the one I was thinking of then [01:32] Teratogen (~leontopod@intertwingled.net) joined ##slackware. [01:32] ok [01:32] restarted X [01:32] seemed to fix things [01:33] nyRednek, that's where I think I twigged on our earlier discussion when I was at home [01:33] alisonken1noc: again, if i was ever that pathetic, i apologize [01:33] now patience and gimp start, no problemo [01:35] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [01:37] m1ck3y (mickey@c-68-40-206-140.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left ##slackware. 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[02:45] (or add support for ext4 in the kernel) [02:45] I complied in the support so I wouldn't need an initrd [02:45] ah, right [02:46] hrm.. that makes the error message even more strange :p [02:47] I booted the cd because I wanted to remove huge file support and then I ran: tune2fs -O ^huge_file /dev/sda3 [02:48] but then after I ran fsck and everything came back ok so I don't know if this mucked up the fs or what... [02:48] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:49] but I have the stock kernel and I don't remember seeing that [02:49] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:50] Hmm I wonder if this kernel option is causing the problem ---> Use ext4 for ext2/ext3 file systems [02:50] I'll remove that [02:50] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:51] does ext4 need ext2 in the kernel? [02:51] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D72D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[02:56] Xgates, don't think so [02:57] ok [02:57] I get that ext2 warning and just ignore it [02:58] OMFG the pcsx2 developers are the most irritating people to produce software i have ever encountered [02:59] you spend an hour searching for something that might not exist but keeps getting referred to constantly, isn't on their website, but is mentioned several times, their product -requires- the plugin, you browse their forums, see constant references to it, you click the link, and its a dead link [03:00] and thats only to BEGIN the hours of troubleshooting a needlessly complex system [03:01] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-56-52.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:02] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) joined ##slackware. [03:02] alphageek (rooot@76-10-170-70.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [03:03] Teratogen (~leontopod@intertwingled.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:03] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:06] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:06] some thing are not worth bothering with and pcsx2 sounds like one of them, just go buy a ps2 they're cheap hehe ;p [03:07] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [03:07] my landlord disagrees lol [03:09] why bother when the ps2 is made to do the job [03:09] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [03:09] I bet it will never do the job as good... 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[05:16] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:17] what does mount show? [05:22] hmm [05:22] /dev/sdb1 on /media/usb0 type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,relatime) [05:22] If I mount it using dolphine, it uses bulkfuse instead of ntfs [05:22] no [05:22] It's fuseblk [05:23] I specified rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,relatime options. [05:23] on which, your own mount? [05:23] crocket: mount -t ntfs-3g [05:23] i recommend mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/blah /mnt/point [05:24] but if you want to use the kernel ntfs driver you can also do that just specify it for rw [05:24] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:24] oh [05:24] mancha: never actually seen that work [05:24] I like ntfs-3g [05:25] i've done it, it works [05:27] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [05:27] Ubuntu ntfs-3g used to ignore mount options, but slackware one doesn't. [05:27] It proves ubuntu's excessive pathces. [05:28] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [05:28] Everything works fine after I started using ntfs-3g instead of ntfs. [05:29] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Quit: Necrosporus [05:30] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [05:31] It's weird [05:31] Nick change: MrZhi -> zz_MrZhi [05:31] A normal user can't access /media/usb0. [05:32] Its mode is 755, and its owner:group is root:root. [05:32] linXea (~Slackytux@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:32] It seems to ignore mode and ownership. [05:35] ok [05:36] no_def_opts ntfs-3g mount option prevents normal users from accessing the mounted partition. [05:37] Nick change: zz_MrZhi -> MrZhi [05:39] I guess it was my misunderstanding [05:39] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:39] slackware's ntfs-3g is not different from ubuntu's. [05:39] It doesn't differ from a distro to another. [05:40] After I examined files in windows xp in virtualbox, ntfs-3g seems to make a files in permision mode 777. [05:41] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [05:42] Only the top directory of the usb device has the permission 755. [05:44] Nick change: MrZhi -> mobiZhi [05:44] Nick change: mobiZhi -> MrZhi [05:45] How can I set the right permission for files in usb pen drives? [05:46] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:47] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [05:48] If I can make windows OSes recognize ext4 partitions, I wouldn't have a worry. [05:52] using FAT filesystem would make it much easier. [05:53] I don't love FAT because I always prefer new stuffs. [05:53] Would fat32 allow me to set permissions for files in usb drives? [05:53] Just as I was wondering whther I unfairly red-tagged you.. you drop a right clanger. ta ta. [05:53] no [05:54] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:56] Some webpage says fat* and ntfs wouldn't allow me to set permissions in linux. [05:57] it's difficult to filter out clutters at first [05:57] fat/fat32 does not have built-in settings for user permissions [05:57] I don't know how they lived before NTFS. [05:57] that is because linux and windows use different systems for security [05:57] ntfs I believe uses windows version of acl';s [05:57] NTFS has detailed settings for permissions. [05:58] When you look at a DOS/Windows filesystem from linux only the permissions in the first column have any meaning [06:00] WildWizard : I don't know the concept of the first column. [06:00] owner / group / everyone [06:00] crocket, don't tell me you already forgot unix permission setup? [06:01] alisonken1home, unix permissions are one row. [06:01] They are in a row visually. [06:01] and WildWizard was pointing out the "user" part of the groupings [06:01] ok [06:01] U,G,O three columns? [06:01] owner not user [06:02] ok - owner :) I still think of it as user since it's specific to uid [06:02] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:02] I learned as "user/group/other" myself [06:02] lol ... they do use 'u' in the shorthand [06:02] WildWizard, If I set it to 755, then only 7 is written to NTFS? [06:02] owner group world is as valid [06:03] chmod o+ is an acceptable shorthand for user/owner column [06:03] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [06:03] theF? Unable to access Amazon(!) [06:04] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-92-138.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:04] linux / UNIX filesystem permissions and NTFS permissions work in very different ways and as such only basic details cross between them [06:04] Agiofws_ (~Agiofws@athedsl-423613.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:04] I hope linux people someday implement NTFS fully. [06:04] huh? [06:05] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:05] maybe not possible due to the fact that NTFS can have permissions for many users. [06:05] because windows uses acl's which are group as well as user defined permissions [06:06] you're saying that you hope one day Italian includes all the words in the English language [06:06] which makes no sense. ext3 has specs, ntfs has specs, fat has specs. deal. [06:06] :) [06:07] mancha what he means is it would be nice if you could set the ACL's on a file in NTFS from linux [06:07] certain attributes in ntfs have no analog in ext3, period. [06:07] What filesystems can provide permission settings for both linux and windows? [06:07] Is anyone else able to resolve amazon domains? (this is not a DFEOJM) the servers are no doubt there.. but i cant pick up an IP.. no servers can be reached.. other non-auth resolutions seem fine.. [06:07] crocket: paper [06:08] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-92-138.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [06:09] shiat [06:09] unable to convert errno to isc_result: 27: file too large [06:09] guess i need to sort that oot :) [06:12] Zordrak, amazon.co.uk seems to be unreachable, amazon.com sort of 1/2 loads with a lot of missing imgs [06:12] i can open www.amazon.com [06:12] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [06:13] dive: thats awesome. Amazon has a problem.. and their problem has led me to discover an unrelated error of my own :) [06:13] the .co.uk works as well [06:13] not from here it don't [06:13] .com / .co.uk / .nl don't work here [06:14] awesome.. super clusterfsck at amazon. Wonder if anyone gets fired :) [06:14] hehe [06:18] cypherpunko (~root@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:19] peacenik (~didier@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:20] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D72D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:20] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@94.41.102.40.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:21] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@94.41.102.40.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:27] cypherpunko (~root@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [06:27] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:31] Wow [06:32] ntfs-3g developers are trying to implement POSIX ACL. [06:33] Zordrak: amazon.com? [06:33] TClayton: no, the rainforest. [06:33] peacenik (~didier@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [06:33] opens here [06:33] does here .. now [06:34] good day all [06:45] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D72D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:47] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:47] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) joined ##slackware. [06:49] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D72D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:49] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D72D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:50] asamoah (~caio@190.244.49.108) joined ##slackware. [06:55] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:59] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.107) joined ##slackware. [06:59] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [07:02] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-423613.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:02] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:02] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [07:06] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:12] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [07:19] Action: Zordrak found a way to deal with inet2 getting executed before the network really arrives [07:19] i=6; while ! ping -c1 UpHost &>/dev/null && (( i-->1 )); do echo "Waiting for network... $i"; sleep 1; done [07:26] archcezar (1000@ddz71.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:26] it's a pic of a slackware 3 CD set: http://i.imgur.com/V2uEB.jpg , anyone know why that animal? (if there's any reason) [07:27] not sure - that was before my first slackware cd purchase [07:28] hmm [07:28] ntfs-3g.SlackBuild doesn't contain posix-acl option. [07:29] nader (nader@85.133.205.38) left ##slackware. [07:29] it would appear to be a duck-billed platypus [07:29] Famous for being one of only two mammals that lay eggs [07:29] archceza3 (1000@acsy38.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [07:29] Whether that's significant or not I don't know. [07:30] lol [07:31] thats what happens when ducks and penguins have sex [07:33] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:33] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:34] briareus (~briareus@209.117.47.253) joined ##slackware. [07:34] briareus (~briareus@209.117.47.253) left irc: Changing host [07:34] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [07:38] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.94.97) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:42] lordkefir (~lordkefir@i5E86B52C.versanet.de) joined ##slackware. [07:45] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.130.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [07:45] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.172.100) joined ##slackware. [07:46] hmm [07:46] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [07:47] inherit is not set to be a vaild option in 10-ntfs-3g-policy.fdi [07:47] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:48] Which leads me to modify and repackage ntfs-3g. [07:48] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-203.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [07:48] ha [07:48] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Client Quit [07:53] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.34.222) joined ##slackware. [07:56] Nick change: fb|jean -> champus [07:56] Nick change: champus -> fb|jean [07:59] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:59] Can i get some opinion on a patch to rc.inet2 please? Preferably from those whe know their way around bash: http://pastebin.ca/1882827 [08:00] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:08] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-xmrntzntwsftxzfc) joined ##slackware. [08:09] Zordrak: your computer will never boot if your remote host is unavailable [08:09] alienBOB: what did I miss? [08:10] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@94.41.102.40.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:10] I'm repackging ntfs-3g with inherit and relatime support. [08:10] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@94.41.102.40.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:11] Zordrak: what is " (( avail-->1 )) " [08:11] crocket: why the repackage? [08:11] lordkefir (lordkefir@i5E86B52C.versanet.de) left ##slackware. [08:11] alienBOB, Slackware default ntfs-3g module doesn't support inherit and relatime options. [08:11] alienBOB: a test as to whether a decremented avail integer is greater than 1 [08:12] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@94.41.102.40.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:12] I specified them as valid options in 10-ntfs-3g-policy.hdi and repackaged it. [08:12] They were hal options. [08:12] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@94.41.102.40.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:12] Although I don't know about linux hal, configuring the hal file was straightforward since it was an xml. [08:12] How can I see the lag when connecting by ssh? if i type a command the letters appear after a couple of seconds [08:13] Azeotrope: you are seeing the lag [08:13] crocket: just copy /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-ntfs-3g-policy.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/ and edit the copy. No need to re-package [08:13] haha indeed, I was thinking the same thing [08:13] alienBOB, Oh man, I didn't know that. [08:13] damn [08:14] Zordrak: and what syntax construct is that " (( avail-->1 )) "? Needs to be written into actual sheel script? [08:14] feinom (feinom@feinom.forcebox.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:14] crocket: I see you reverting to re-packaging way too often [08:14] how can i measure it hten? [08:14] Azeotrope: start with ping [08:14] alienBOB, I was being an autopilot. [08:14] alienBOB, it decrements avail by one and compares it to "1" [08:14] Action: crocket becomes a zombie often. [08:15] alienBOB: bear with me.. i have been guided a liitle by #bash, but as slava_dp says, the double-parethesis is a specific bash construct, inside which you have avail decremented (avail--) and then compared to 1 ( >1 ) [08:15] ping is 8ms to the host [08:16] man bash, search for (( [08:16] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:16] for \(\( to be precise :-) [08:16] Azeotrope: things like heavy load on the remote or local host can result in a similar lag [08:16] Kiboney (~Kiboney@beaconschool.org) joined ##slackware. [08:16] Kiboney (~Kiboney@beaconschool.org) left irc: Client Quit [08:17] alienBOB: avail=10; while ! ((avail-->1)); do echo $avail; done [08:17] hm.. scratch that [08:18] was going to say ... :) [08:18] uh-huh [08:18] alienBOB, Do I need to reboot after changing the hal configuration file? [08:18] ok.. so it works in script... sec [08:18] It doesn't seem to apply right now. [08:18] for avail in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ; do echo $avail ; done [08:19] alisonken1noc: i need a while [08:19] OK next time please try to prevent ambiguity by adding spaces. I always add spaces to separate entiries, and thus I tried ((avail --> 1)) ... [08:19] alienBOB: ahhh.. ok no prbos [08:19] feinom (feinom@feinom.forcebox.org) joined ##slackware. [08:19] *probs [08:20] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:20] ananke: yea, host has 100% per both cpus bus works ok locally [08:20] alisonken1noc: dur.. that example was just bad.. should have been [08:20] avail=10; while ! ((avail--<1)); do echo $avail; done [08:20] Azeotrope: i have no clue what that sentence even means in english [08:20] alisonken1, less typing: for avail in $(seq 1 10) ; do echo $avail ; done [08:21] avail=10; while [ $avail -gt 1 ] ; do echo $avail; avail=$(($avail -1 )) ; done [08:21] alienBOB, keep forgetting about seq :) [08:22] for avail in {1..10} ; do echo -n $avail ; done ; echo [08:22] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [08:22] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [08:22] Zordrak, why use "while" ? [08:22] alisonken1noc: problem is the avail test is a sub-test of a while: " while ! ping -c1 foo && (( avail-- > 1 )) " [08:22] rob0 was going to suggest the same :> [08:22] the while is just concerned with the ping result.. but avail provides it with a timeout [08:23] or "countout" if you prefer [08:23] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:23] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [08:24] for i in {1..10}; do ping -c1 foo || break ; done [08:24] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@94.41.102.40.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:25] alisonken1noc: http://pastebin.ca/1882827 [08:25] sec [08:25] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.178.77.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:26] first time I've seen ((var-->1)) syntax in bash [08:26] Aidar-Nagato (admin@77.79.178.77.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. 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[08:34] alisonken1noc: For a slightly more clear explanation of what I'm doing it's now blogged: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2010/06/14/slackware-trying-to-mount-nfs-shares-before-the-network-is-ready/ [08:35] slava_dp: looking [08:35] slava_dp: *nod* [08:36] for i in {1..10}; do ping -c1 foo && break || sleep 5 ; done [08:37] Suggestions on reducing the length of the post title without diluting the meaning are welcome :) [08:37] change foo for a valid server/ip to check (ip being better since it doesn't do a name lookup) [08:38] alisonken1noc: part of my solution is that DNS is allowed to fail and is retried as remote systems can be specified by host in fstab [08:38] but that does seem to do the job [08:41] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:43] asarch (~asarch@189.188.159.185) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:47] hughszg (~hugh@218.82.207.3) joined ##slackware. [08:48] mcury (~mcury@189.24.196.40) joined ##slackware. [08:49] you can also put a -t in there to shorten the timeout as well [08:49] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [08:49] meh.. effort appreciated, but am sticking with what i've got [08:50] alienBOB: ntfs-3g itself doesn't support inherit option even if I changed the hal rules. [08:50] sorry - -W [08:50] whatever works [08:50] alienBOB: I think I should repackage ntfs-3g with --enable-posix-acl option. [08:50] Now if i can just work out how to get wordpress to let me give it a .diff.gz file without messing with it.. [08:50] heh [08:51] apparantly .diff does not meet security guidelines.. and .diff.gz gets renamed to _.diff_.gz [08:56] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) left irc: Quit: ZNC by prozac - http://znc.sourceforge.net [08:56] adaptr (~adaptr@xs.adaptr.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:56] adaptr (~adaptr@xs.adaptr.nl) left irc: Changing host [08:56] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) joined ##slackware. [08:56] then just use -diff.gz [08:56] It will not dictate what i may and may not do. I just renamed it on the server [08:57] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [08:57] ooo.. i like Ark's diff viewer [08:58] asarch (~asarch@189.188.159.185) joined ##slackware. [09:00] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:05] i don't think they're trying to dictate to you, rather they're trying to avoid having double extensions that windows handles irresponsibly [09:08] auska (~auska@83.53.215.69) joined ##slackware. [09:09] auska (auska@83.53.215.69) left ##slackware. [09:13] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-111-252.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. 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[09:33] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-119.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:33] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [09:34] SpacePlod (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-ogupekqqdkmlrnsh) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:34] SpacePlod (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-rmbjpcljngcvydkz) joined ##slackware. [09:36] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [09:36] _theradar (yamabushi@detached.ircii.de) left irc: Quit: changing servers [09:39] Currently my /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax = 32 MB (default) If I issue an "echo" statement increasing it to 128 MB does this adversely impact a running kernel? [09:40] Any known hiccups or burps? [09:40] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:41] johndee (~id@95-29-179-117.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:41] Do running applications (e.g. postgresql) have to be restarted to utilize the added resource? 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[10:23] I've created usermapping file and copied it to ntfs partitions. [10:23] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [10:23] ext4 now handles a part of ACL. [10:23] I'm not satisfied. [10:24] Unless ntfs-3g can be run with inherit option, I'd have to put UserMapping file in every new ntfs filesystem. [10:24] Does somebody know how to enable inherit option? [10:25] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:26] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [10:27] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:28] isw (~i@c-67-181-224-97.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:30] hard disk platters dont half resonate well [10:32] notknub (~fuckyou@helios.xin.lu) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:33] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-111-252.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:36] isw (~i@c-67-181-224-97.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:36] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:38] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:40] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [10:42] isw (~i@c-67-181-224-97.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:45] I can't connect my modem with Slackware 13.1 [10:46] pppd[4312]: By default the remote system is required to authenticate itself .. (because this system has a default route to the internet) .. but I couldn't find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so. ..(None of the available passwords would let it use an IP address.) [10:46] I have tried to route del default, but it didn't help [10:47] Oh god [10:48] NTFS-3G lead developer said "inherit" option is internal in ntfs-3g, so inherit doesn't appear after typing "mount". [10:49] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-247-252.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [10:49] A way to know it is passed to ntfs-3g is to specify an option "no_detach". [10:50] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [10:51] Mission accomplished [10:51] isw (~i@c-67-181-224-97.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:54] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:59] asarch (~asarch@189.188.159.185) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:00] crocket, so what were you trying to do? to map your linux users to your windows users? [11:00] yes [11:00] ananke, around? [11:00] slava_dp, It was done successfully using ntfs-3g.usermap [11:00] But I think ntfs-3g.usermap is limited. [11:00] ntfs-3g.usermap requires a windows-installed partition. [11:01] People who don't have a windows partition wouldn't be happy with this. [11:02] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D72D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:02] asarch (~asarch@189.188.159.185) joined ##slackware. [11:03] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [11:03] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:05] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [11:05] danix (~danix@host245-115-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:06] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [11:07] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. 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[11:18] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:18] we use jasig's CAS [11:18] integrated with ad? [11:18] nope, with ldap [11:19] and i think i heard about liferay. it's possible we use it somewhere [11:19] ok, it's half way there, ad uses ldap + kerberos [11:19] you dont happen to have any security recommendation or best practices about it, do you? [11:20] nope. but i do have working atlassian confluence integration with CAS, if you ever need it [11:20] danix (~danix@host245-115-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:20] v4nelle (~van@79.107.243.180) joined ##slackware. [11:21] Action: nachox has never heard of atlassian confluence [11:21] arguably the best wiki out there [11:22] so i'm reading [11:23] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:25] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:09] yap [12:10] dood why are home prices still unbelievably high in LA [12:10] these banks have to let these homes to, i read somewhere that "1/3rd" of california home owners are under water [12:10] not sure how accurate. [12:11] they must all be ubunti users [12:11] harry_otter (~sixx@212.183.140.45) joined ##slackware. [12:11] under water? [12:11] eww-buntu ;) [12:11] literally? [12:11] slackytude|evil, they can't afford their payments [12:12] ah [12:12] slackytude|evil, pretty much too many people like thrice` who work at mcdondalds but expensive houses because loans were easy.. now it's time to let it go [12:12] yeah [12:12] soon, California will drown too so they'll really be under the water [12:12] Its not like I lived in a cave the last decade [12:12] :> [12:12] just didnt know that expression [12:13] adrien, soon geologically! [12:13] 'ubunti' <- yet another failed attempt to create a word [12:13] geologically [12:13] lol [12:13] they should ask the dutch how to deal [12:13] anyone help me, im trying to install sancp for snort and im getting an error --> http://pastebin.com/x5Ur5La3 ..i was googling the error and found this .. https://forums.snort.org/forums/third-party-tools/topics/sguil-problems-with-sancp-install ..but i cant find /usr/lib/libpcap.so ? [12:14] _slax0r_ (~fire@slackware.x-shells.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [12:14] do you have the kernel-headers installed? ( pcap_functions.c:78: warning: implicit declaration of function 'htonl' ) [12:15] htonl [12:15] heh [12:15] slackytude|evil: iirc under water is house is worth less than what owner's mortgage price is [12:15] actually, yeah, otherwise it'd complain about missing file [12:16] should have adrien i installed everythin except kde ? [12:17] i only see /usr/lib/libpcap.a [12:17] jeev, actually, funny you mention it, I recently bought a fore-closed home :p [12:18] yeah, forget about that one, a bug in sancp, would be nice if it were solved but let's have it compile first [12:18] there are no advantages to owning a home, netsearch for home ownership advantages [12:18] gnubien, um, compared to what, renting? [12:19] living under a bridge [12:19] apparently [12:19] renting [12:19] how the hell does that make sense? [12:20] you use sancp adrien ? [12:20] I'll be able to sell my home for more than I bought in 10 years - what will you have if you have to move in 10 years? [12:21] thrice`, homes in your area are worth less than my car.. doesn't mean anything to me :) [12:22] you mean your moms mini van? that thing is pretty nice, you're right [12:22] muraii (~muraii@cpe-184-59-68-139.cinci.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:22] '-L/usr/lib/lib', '-I/usr/local/include/pcap -I./ -L/usr/lib/libsocket.so', '-L/opt/csw/lib' [12:22] mattallmill (~mattallmi@69.71.126.145) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:22] guess what's wrong... [12:22] (I compiled it here) [12:22] you just typed 'make linux' ? [12:22] harry_otter: do you have /usr/lib/libpcap.so.1.0.0? [12:23] yeah, but the build system is pretty ugly, I'm using slackware64 so files are in /usr/lib64, not /usr/lib [12:23] sbs` (~mfd@CPE001ee57a9930-CM001a6683085e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [12:23] nope just have /usr/lib/libpcap.a [12:24] harry_otter: can you pastebn the whole output of 'make -B linux' ? (it'll rebuild everything) [12:24] ok will do 1 min [12:24] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [12:25] as far as I can tell, tcpdump should provide the .so: /var/log/packages/tcpdump-4.0.0-x86_64-2:usr/lib64/libpcap.so.1.0.0 [12:27] adrien http://pastebin.com/ALf3HsAg [12:27] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [12:28] XIT [12:29] Oh, right; I'm supposed to type the *correct* sequence of letters, in the appropriate context. +) [12:29] gnubien, so, why is buying my home a bad choice? I'd love to realize this [12:29] harry_otter: why slackware version are you using? [12:29] not saying that [12:30] 13 [12:30] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-92-138.kotinet.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:30] thrice`: just no advantages, only liabilitys [12:30] gnubien, you don't consider making money an advantage? [12:30] i dont want to argue [12:30] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [12:30] then why did you say it to start? [12:31] i said netsearch 'home ownership advantages' and you will see that there are none [12:31] nickals (~nickals@97.103.10.179) joined ##slackware. [12:31] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@97.103.10.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:31] nickals kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: slackin, you've been warned *repeatedly* about that spambot, er, pugbot shit. [12:32] lol, ok, well that's a great argument then [12:32] suits me :) [12:32] edthix (~ed@175.137.185.245) joined ##slackware. [12:32] harry_otter: you should get the slackbuild from 13.1 and create a new package [12:32] isw (~i@c-67-181-224-97.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:32] my monthly payment on my mortgage is less than renting, and I will be able to make almost twice my investment in this economy. but, if google says otherwise, hm [12:33] http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/source/n/tcpdump/ <- download all files [12:33] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [12:33] i have 13.1 disc adrien but not got round to installing it yet, could i not try reinstalling libpcap package off the 13 disc i have for time being ? [12:33] thrice`: my rational after doing that search is the net is full of people expert on home ownership and they can not provide any advantages to home ownership [12:34] thrice`: lots of realestate people on the net [12:34] danix (~danix@host245-115-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:34] harry_otter: it looks like 'make install' in libpcap doesn't install the .so* files and the 13.1 copies them manually, I guess the 13.0 didn't [12:34] danix (~danix@host245-115-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:35] thrice`: and realestate people are highly motivated to sell their products but still can come up with no advantages [12:35] but the tcpdump versions are the same so it shouldn't be a problem [12:35] yeah, 13.0's didn't and 13.1's does [12:36] yeah i'll do a fresh install of 13.1 [12:36] the library itself is unchanged, only the way to build the package is [12:36] oh i can use the 13.1 package on 13 ? [12:36] recreating the tcpdump package to take that file doesn't require 13.1 at all, and it's only a matter of minutes [12:36] edthix (~ed@175.137.185.245) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:37] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.22.15.177.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:37] you're not going to use the package from 13.1, it's about recreating a 13.0-ok package with that .so file [12:37] you can also do it by hand but it turns out 13.1 does it and nothing else is changed: library versions are the same [12:38] gnubien, if you believe the internet is right, in that you will throw away $100,000 in 10 years time of renting, and when you go to move, you get $0 back, then I feel sorry for you :> [12:38] thrice`: dont believe anything, just looking for info now [12:39] I've done both in my time, and it's quite clear :> [12:39] just think about how much money you will waste in 5 years or renting a crummy apartment [12:39] ill install 13.1, may as well since i have discs [12:40] thanks anyway adrien [12:40] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:40] yeah, it works too if you have the time [12:41] Action: chipster has RE broker and sales licenses and thinks this is funny. [12:41] nope - no advantages to HOship. none. :) [12:42] pcastle (~pcastle@166.205.136.196) joined ##slackware. [12:42] thrice`: your convinced, i'm not [12:42] sbs` (~mfd@CPE001ee57a9930-CM001a6683085e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:42] omg [12:42] sbs` (~mfd@CPE001ee57a9930-CM001a6683085e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [12:42] pcastle (~pcastle@166.205.136.196) left irc: Client Quit [12:42] back ro code. [12:42] to* [12:43] pcastle (~pcastle@166.205.136.196) joined ##slackware. [12:43] gnubien, ok, how long have you rented, and at how much per month? times the two together once, and realize how you will get none of it back [12:43] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [12:43] chipster, crook!! [12:44] thrice`: I love people like gnubien! They pay the mortage on my rentals :) [12:44] gnubien: you keep on doing that - thanks! [12:44] thrice`: how much interest on your mortgage, do you get that back? [12:44] Aidar-Nagato (admin@77.79.178.77.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [12:44] gnubien, if you buy a good home? absolutely [12:45] interest rates are 5%, if you hadn't heard :> [12:46] sadman_ (~sadman@en-pc243.htwg-konstanz.de) joined ##slackware. [12:46] thrice`: what is the total cost of interest at the end of your mortgage? [12:46] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:47] let me check [12:47] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:50] thrice`: iirc in most mortgages you pay off the interest first, then after that is completed you pay off the priciple [12:51] asteroid (~aster@110.47.85-79.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [12:51] hello [12:51] gnubien, looks like about $12K in interest, if I do minimum [12:51] there is some changes with 13.1, about raid ? [12:51] my raid device (partition formated as FD type) is no seen/activate at boot time. [12:51] worked fine with 13.0 [12:52] thrice`: ok, $12k would pay rent for quite a while [12:52] gnubien, so, worst case in 7 years, if I sell my home for EXACTLY what I bought it for, I've lived for 7 years on that much money, no? when I was renting at $500 a month, that was about 2 years [12:52] asteroid: pata or sata devices? [12:52] thrice`: right, about 2 years [12:52] hardware are IDE devices [12:52] but seen has sdx [12:52] were they seen as sdX in 13.0 as well? [12:53] no, in 13.0 there was seen has hdc and hdd, with 13.1 they become sdb and sdc [12:53] there ya go. time to fiddle with your configs [12:53] thrice`: http://clarkhoward.com/ has some good info on mortgages [12:53] thrice`, one should never buy a home in hopes of profiting, unless if they already own a home. i hate people who do that [12:53] exactly how, dunno. I've never done raid [12:54] gnubien, now, if I'm good and maintain my home for 7 years, with the market at its lowest point, and I can sell my home for another $40K then I bought if for, then I've MADE $30K in 7 years, instead of walking away with $0, after paying ($500*12*7) $42,000 [12:54] and housing prices will always rise! [12:54] jeev, with this market? are you joking? [12:54] Action: slackytude|evil hides [12:54] thrice`: right, if the market recovers and when, those are unknown [12:54] huh [12:54] im basing it off your 10 year statement [12:55] I bought a home valued at $140K for $71K, how could it possibly get worse, unless I manage to burn it down, or let you mother in the door ? [12:55] hehe [12:55] heh. where do you live?!?!?! i just bought a car that cost more than you paid for your home [12:55] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:55] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-139-199.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:56] jeev: which car? [12:56] S class [12:56] yeah right [12:56] i was going to buy a used one but i couldn't get warranty [12:56] you drive a civic from the 90s [12:56] lol thrice`, i wish i lived in rural mejico like you so that's all i could get [12:57] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-139-199.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [12:57] why not M class? [12:57] i got it so i could push myself towards working "harder" and since i've gotten it, i haven't made any attempts but i've made 1/3 the money back already in a month [12:58] asteroid: this is normal for 13.1, btw. pata device naming (/dev/hdX) was deprecated because of the new'n'improved libata goodness. pretty much everything looks like sata now, from what I understand [12:58] I drove an M class when in Germany, they are quite nice :> [12:58] thrice`, im done with SUV's and trucks [12:58] I will be too once mine dies, I think [12:58] alphageek, yes. I do not think this is the matter [12:58] it got to a point where i needed a luxury car because im meeting way too many pretentious people [12:58] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-9-192.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [12:59] i frankly dont care what anyone drives [12:59] nice car: http://jalopnik.com/cars/assets/resources/2007/12/Mazda_Furai_02.jpg [12:59] *i hope* i never become like those assholes who look down at people like that. i only did it to maintain business [12:59] but my ide dvd-rom player alphageek is not named a sdx [12:59] ew gnubien [12:59] asteroid: sr0? [12:59] maybe [13:00] asteroid, sr0 maybe? [13:00] jeev: what line of work are you in? sounds.. affluent. [13:00] i do know and do not care about it :) gui are good for play dvd rom [13:00] jeev: definitly not an off road vehicle :) [13:00] srN of some number, anyway [13:00] ut, computers... ;) [13:00] Action: ut chuckles [13:00] i just deal with affluent people who have critical information that is private [13:00] i come recommended heh [13:00] cdrw -> sr0 & dvd -> sr1 here on 32/13.1. completely as expected [13:01] jeev: damn, someone recommends you? :o [13:01] i think what people realize is that i dont care what's going on, if the husband and wife are fighting.. i dont care, i dont lean towards any direction.. i dont judge or question [13:01] adrien, damn right [13:01] jeev, ie, your mom talks about you too much at her meetings? [13:02] nope [13:02] YOUR mom! [13:02] :) [13:02] asteroid: maybe there are some hints for you in the 'LIBATA SWITCHOVER' section of 13.1's CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT [13:02] harry_otter (~sixx@212.183.140.45) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:02] isw (~i@c-67-181-224-97.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:04] alphageek, thx for file, but there is nothing talking to me [13:04] I do not upgrade, I install [13:04] v4nelle (~van@79.107.243.180) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:04] so installer choose good device, naming them good [13:04] it's the same :> [13:05] think of it as 'things you might notice after upgrading or installing 13.1' [13:05] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:07] thrice`] [13:07] where do you live? [13:07] when i google your name william hung, it just says you're a singer [13:07] Player Three just joined the game... Press Start to continue. [13:07] Action: Zordrak has a 2nd engineer properly running on Slack :D [13:07] jeev, MI [13:07] home prices have direct relation to girl quality [13:07] the lower the prices, the uglier the girls [13:08] i've seen your girlfriend jeev, that's a bad comment to be making ;) [13:08] yea you saw her, a mix between that pic i showed you yesterday and tea leoni from bad boys 1 [13:08] that's pretty ugly eh ? [13:08] oleg (1000@pool-78-29-56-204.is74.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:08] and she cooks by the way. [13:09] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:09] sounds.. well.. yummy :) [13:09] revel0 (~revel0@212.88.117.162) left irc: Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~ [13:10] seriously my girlfriend is like a gift. she does everything and anything she can for her family and I, she's in her early 20's by the way and she's in med school [13:10] well, trying to get in now [13:10] you're funny :> [13:10] it's ok thrice`, one day you'll find a girl like jessica simpson who'll be yelling and screaming at you [13:11] its your peoples way! [13:11] oh and your girl's skin will start to look like she's 80 when she's 34 because of all the tap water and weird things you guys do :) [13:11] oleg (1000@pool-78-29-56-204.is74.ru) left irc: Client Quit [13:11] o__O [13:12] anyway, horray for slackware [13:12] horror + hurray [13:12] Action: ut nods [13:13] actually that doesn't make sense. don't like horror. [13:14] patchy (~patchy@201.2.9.40) joined ##slackware. [13:15] slackware is my first love~ [13:15] me too [13:16] Action: ut loves slackware, is hardly even tempted by arch [13:16] Action: Roin thinks he missed something [13:17] Roin: slackware is -that- sexy [13:17] Action: xMDKx likes chocolate milk [13:17] raela: I knows [13:19] http://imagebin.org/101309 <3 [13:19] hey I run arch [13:19] inside a slackware host [13:19] ;oD [13:22] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:22] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [13:22] isw (~i@c-67-181-224-97.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] if we're posting desktops... http://imagebin.org/101310 [13:25] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [13:28] vsftpd is installed by default, however, i cannot locate a /etc/rc.d/rc.vsftpd file [13:28] slobad23 (~jake@92.17.231.90) joined ##slackware. [13:28] ut: damn. that's one cluttered desktop [13:28] ._. [13:29] Should Slackware auto configure my wireless when i plug the cat5 cable in? [13:29] I know. I keep meaning to clean it up. [13:29] slobad23: erm... why would it do that? no [13:29] because I have been used to that with other distros [13:30] been fiddling around with slackware this afternoon and got it working before giving up :-) [13:30] slackware is a very do it yourself distro [13:30] slobad23: cable. wireless. what? [13:31] I need to try and get the wireless working now. was a bit of a fuss going through rc.inet1 etc.. but at least i have a sense of achievement now [13:31] wicd [13:31] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:32] what on earth is that? i just went through my slackware essentials book and wicd wasn't mentioned [13:32] it's in extra/.. slackbook is currently being updated [13:32] %which wicd : no wicd [13:32] it sounds like wha you're looking for with wireless [13:33] replay (replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left ##slackware. [13:33] apparently intel 3945 is a problem for a lot of people with 13.1 but not in 13... [13:34] slobad23, wicd is in extra [13:34] oh, already said [13:35] I am sorry to sound really stupid here, but when you say "in extra", I don't know what you are talking about [13:35] oh. there are additional packages to install other than what's in slackware/ [13:35] on the cd/dvd/mirrors [13:36] raela, thanks [13:36] or do slackpkg install wicd [13:37] patchy_ (~patchy@201.2.9.40) joined ##slackware. [13:38] Action: NaCl should probably dehilight wicd in this channel [13:38] wicd, wicd wicd [13:38] are people happy using slackpkg then? i thought it was a kind of "dirty add-on" [13:38] haha.. poor nachox [13:38] pcastle (~pcastle@166.205.136.196) left irc: Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi [13:38] err sorry.. NaCl [13:38] slobad23, not anymore [13:39] raela: :P [13:39] ^^ [13:39] Action: nachox looks questioningly at raela [13:39] slobad23, been in slackware for years now [13:39] Action: raela blames it on being out of it from the weekend [13:39] nachox: sorry, misfire on the tab complete [13:39] slobad23, or you might be thinking about swaret or slapt-get [13:39] of a 4 letter nick, yes [13:39] isw (~i@c-67-181-224-97.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:39] slapt-get is the one i was thinking of [13:39] yes [13:40] slackytude|evil, what exactly do i do once i have wicd installed? do i NEED this to get wireles working? [13:40] no [13:40] slobad23, no [13:40] slobad23: you're the one who seemed to want something easy... [13:40] it just deals with a lot of stuff, like wpasupplicant [13:40] patchy (~patchy@201.2.9.40) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:40] also eases pain if you change networks often [13:41] like it happens with laptops [13:41] if its just a desktop pc, wicd might be a bit of overkill [13:41] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-15.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:41] slobad23, start /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd and start wicd-client [13:43] slackytude|evil, looks like i have wireless now. [13:43] :-) [13:43] nice :D [13:43] Action: Roin is using wicd as well since he is to dumb to get wpa_supplicant working ^.^ [13:43] am so pleased with myself for getting eth0 up the 'hard way' [13:44] Action: raela just uses wpa_supplicant and restarts rc.inet1.. [13:44] netconfig? [13:44] hard way? like "dhcpcd"? [13:44] dhcpcd eth0? [13:44] i don't know what wpa_supplicant is [13:44] isw (~i@c-67-181-224-97.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:44] slobad23: it is what WICD uses.... [13:44] so i could have just run wpa-supplicant [13:44] petera3 (~pa3@75-149-128-53-Connecticut.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [13:44] "just run" is realtive :) [13:44] heh [13:45] well, and do a bit of tweaking [13:45] slackytude|evil, i edited /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [13:45] ah,ok [13:45] thats not that hard [13:45] it was for an ex-ubuntu user [13:45] heh [13:46] slobad23: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network#wireless_networks this might give you an idea [13:46] i have switched to slackware as i admire the fact that this is where i come when i want an answer to something - it all just seems to beautifully simple (in it's complexity!) [13:46] xsamurai (~jamonyou@unaffiliated/xsamurai) joined ##slackware. [13:46] Howdy. [13:46] Hi Alan_Hicks o/ [13:46] xsamurai (jamonyou@unaffiliated/xsamurai) left ##slackware. [13:47] xsamurai (~jamonyou@unaffiliated/xsamurai) joined ##slackware. [13:47] xsamurai (jamonyou@unaffiliated/xsamurai) left ##slackware. [13:47] xsamurai (~jamonyou@unaffiliated/xsamurai) joined ##slackware. [13:48] can i just say... i am a slackware hackzor now. i have just started up wicd and got on the interwebz! :-) [13:49] heh [13:49] Action: Roin doesnt call himself a slackware hackzor ._. [13:49] I spent years with slackware and Im still years away from a guru [13:49] Roin, if you like, i can walk you through the wicd install process (but nothing more!) [13:50] barely above apprentice [13:50] slobad23: No, but you can call yourself a wicd user. [13:50] yeah I'm a newb :P [13:50] slackytude|evil: lol no need I know how to use WICD ^^ [13:50] slackytude|evil: sorry [13:50] Alan_Hicks, wicd is the pinnacle of slackware use though right? i had to like, well, you know, put some effort into getting it to work :-) [13:50] darn tabbing @.@ [13:51] slobad23: I know how to use WICD ;) [13:51] slobad23, not really ^-^ [13:51] i consider myself a slackware cupcake [13:51] slobad23: http://imagebin.org/101309 <-- lower right cornor [13:51] slackytude|evil: is it really so bad to use WICD? :'( [13:52] no, of course not [13:52] slobad23: There is no pinnacle of Slackware use. [13:52] you just done become a gure if you do a slackpkg install wicd [13:52] The pinnacle, if it exists, is to be able to manually do whatever iwlist(8)/iwconfig(8)/ip(8) commands that you need, without a network frontend. [13:52] guru [13:53] rob0: Holy shit! You're here?! [13:53] whoa [13:53] Roin, you've installed games... you're much higher on the slackware foodchain than me! [13:53] slobad23: sbopkg and slackbuilds.org are your friends :p [13:54] rob0: oh have enough dhcpcd enter hooks to get wpa_supplicant to do it for you ;) [13:54] s/oh/or [13:54] Action: rob0 has 6 kicks for Alan_Hicks [13:55] vbatts, I used the exit hook script and a case loop, working well. [13:55] it's a good job i bought the slackware essentials book to get my ethernet working... i used my only spare dvd i brought to the relatives and i would have been in such trouble! [13:55] rob0: don't worry about kicks, the drinks from this past weekend at SELF is doing a good job of kicking Alan_Hicks [13:55] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [13:55] vbatts: No, I finally licked them. [13:55] Alan_Hicks has got the sicks licked? [13:56] Yes I do. [13:56] kicked the sick licks [13:56] tantan_ (tt@unaffiliated/samuel9999) joined ##slackware. [13:56] risky [13:56] how do you suppress udev system message from terminal? [13:56] echelon, on boot? [13:56] echelon, you want to install wicd? [13:56] no [13:56] no? [13:57] Action: NaCl removes the hilight [13:57] im a newbie echelon, just ignore me :-) [13:57] i don't like it when it interrupts me while i'm on the console [13:57] or any console app [13:57] udev prints to the console? [13:58] yeah [13:58] uh, not on my slack [13:58] angstrom does that [13:58] error messages at least [13:58] slobad23 (~jake@92.17.231.90) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:59] do you run udevd with --debug? [13:59] who'd throw away a job / husband to sleep with a high school boy.. wtf [13:59] who [14:00] Action: rob0 sics 6 sick Sikhs on Alan_Hicks [14:00] tjader (~rodrigo@187.7.121.185) joined ##slackware. [14:00] Action: jeev wants tikka masala [14:00] and mango lassi [14:00] wow.. wrong window, sorry. meant for OT [14:00] tjader (rodrigo@187.7.121.185) left ##slackware. [14:00] raela, thrice` threw away his husband / job for an old high school boyfriend [14:01] jeev: but was it a 13 year old kid :P [14:01] lancel00t (~robwatson@96-42-15-86.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:02] dartmouth (~dartmouth@72.95.97.163) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:03] Action: Alan_Hicks shoots six sick sheiks with his six shooter [14:03] those six sick sheiks are up shit creek [14:03] heh [14:03] flrichar: hahaha [14:03] hehe [14:03] Alan_Hicks: I ran into you for about 3 seconds at self [14:04] why are them indian kids so much smarter than americans [14:04] flrichar: Really? I wish we'd've had a chance to actually speak. You shoulda pulled me aside for a little while. [14:04] flrichar: i'm surprised you took that long [14:04] 3 seconds is a long time to be "running into" Alan_Hicks [14:04] vbatts: pig fucker. ;-) [14:04] SQQUEEEEEL [14:04] vbatts: hrm, always heard Alan_Hicks was a minute man.. guess that was too generous :) [14:05] HA [14:05] Ok, in the interests of keeping this channel somewhat clear, I'm going to recommend we continue this on -offtopic. [14:05] lol [14:06] there's an offtopic? [14:07] yes, this one would be called -ontopic, but thats assumed [14:07] flrichar, yes. ##unbunti [14:07] flrichar: ##slackware-offtopic [14:07] sadman_ (~sadman@en-pc243.htwg-konstanz.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:07] oh come on Alan_Hicks [14:07] mine was funny [14:07] unbunti's channel is slackware's offtopic chan [14:08] jeev: are you unable to spell 'ubuntu'? [14:08] petera3 (pa3@75-149-128-53-Connecticut.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left ##slackware. [14:08] petera3 (~pa3@75-149-128-53-Connecticut.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [14:11] pnq (asdf@ACA267D1.ipt.aol.com) joined ##slackware. [14:11] Alan_Hicks: i second that too [14:12] anybody here streaming worldcup live for free ? [14:13] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:15] my uni does [14:16] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-29-34.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:17] but there are websites that stream them as well [14:17] is there a public uri for me to reference =) [14:17] havent anything but spam [14:17] * found anything [14:17] let me check [14:17] http://livetv.ru/de/ [14:18] justin.tv should index some live streams as well? [14:20] pnq (asdf@ACA267D1.ipt.aol.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:20] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-25-119.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:20] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [14:25] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. 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[14:50] Teratogen (~blah@67.40.69.102) joined ##slackware. [14:51] ok, I have a hostname of intertwingled.net [14:51] slackware install is asking me for a hostname [14:51] should I put intertwingled or intertwingled.net [14:51] then I know it is going to ask me for a domain name [14:51] should I put intertwingled.net or just net [14:51] ? [14:51] isw (~i@c-67-181-224-97.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:52] Teratogen: just intertwingled [14:52] ok thanks [14:52] then for the domain what? [14:52] for both I believe.. it actually doesn't matter [14:52] intertwingled.net? [14:53] pretty sure I never do the net [14:53] it's just the computer name [14:54] Teratogen: hostname is what you like to call your computer. Like, "timmy". And the domain would be "intertwingled.net" [14:55] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/11/64_bit_flash_for_linux_dead/ <-- how dare they!? [14:55] If this is a real domain, and you want your host bot be found by other computers near you (or far away) then you will have to add the hostname to the DNS table for your domain (or edit every single /etc/hosts file on every computer that needs to connect to yours) [14:56] Someone needs to pirate 64-bit flash player [14:56] NthDegree: it's not dead, they only ended the beta program, so until the stable release, no new tarballs [14:56] alienBOB: no way to download last released version [14:56] no license to redistribute [14:56] (to my knowledge) [14:56] Still, sucks for those unfortunate enough to have to use flash [14:56] I have a copy of the .so [14:56] i'll be sharing it readily [14:57] but it's an insult [14:57] Since the tarball does not come with a license file, no one can uphold that it is illegal to distribute [14:58] the sooner flash dies, the better [14:58] maybe adobe can make some good design tools for html5 [15:00] Teratojam (~blah@67.40.69.102) joined ##slackware. [15:00] ok it worked [15:00] Teratogen (~blah@67.40.69.102) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:00] now I can get to addons.mozilla.org [15:02] lancel00t (~robwatson@96-42-15-86.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:02] patchy_ (~patchy@201.2.9.40) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:04] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-186-243-217.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:04] _slax0r_ (~fire@slackware.x-shells.org) joined ##slackware. [15:06] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-144-42.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:07] <_slax0r_> hi, where should I put my up script for rp-pppoe and what name does it expect? [15:07] <_slax0r_> /etc/ppp/pppoe-up not working [15:10] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:11] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:20] BentoPUNK (~BentoPUNK@189.2.128.178) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:24] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:27] _slax0r_: what about ip-up? [15:29] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:29] <_slax0r_> mako-sama yeah...been digging through google and found it :/ [15:32] neuro_sys (~neuro@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) joined ##slackware. [15:33] Action: guax with a HD capable dtv receiver but with a uncapable computer do decode the h264 stream =~ [15:33] and 1seg is not being correctly decoded by vlc [15:37] officergris (~officergr@69.76.129.255) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:37] doesn't your receiver come with an HD decoder? [15:39] no, all made by my processor [15:39] it must be using a single core for that so i cant decode 1080p that easy [15:41] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:41] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [15:44] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:45] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [15:45] surge (surge@pool-98-118-157-221.bflony.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:45] hi [15:46] i am trying to compile a driver for a RAID card and the installation script exits with an error saying it can't find utsrelease.h [15:47] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [15:47] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [15:49] rahulrp (~rahul@p57B034A6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:50] okay i see utsrelease.h is in generated [15:50] maybe i can create a link [15:50] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:52] yea i would try linking all of generated to /usr/include [15:54] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [15:54] worked [15:54] thank you [15:55] r0ger (~sixx@212.183.140.45) joined ##slackware. [15:56] slackie (~x@bl15-114-247.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:56] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:56] slackie (~x@bl15-114-247.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Changing host [15:56] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [15:58] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. 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[16:12] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:12] mannynix (~mannynix@201.132.137.13) joined ##slackware. [16:15] Teratogen (~blah@67.40.69.102) joined ##slackware. [16:15] I am trying to install flash as a plugin for firefox [16:15] I download the .tar.gz from adobe [16:16] but when I untarzip it I get a libflashplayer.so file [16:16] what do I do with it? [16:16] plop it to ~/.mozilla/plugins [16:16] ah, thanks [16:16] this won't work if you're on 64-bit, however [16:17] so im looking all over KDE 4.3 and I cannot find KTTSD what did they do to it? Where is it? I like having Text-to-speech, but i cant find where they hid it, if they even inclluded it [16:17] and Festival wont compile under 13.1 at least I cant get it to, and i dont even know how I can use festival without KTTSD [16:19] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:21] thanks that worked [16:21] I had to create a plugins directory [16:21] and then copy the .so over to it [16:21] but it works thanks! [16:22] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-176-248.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:25] asarch (~asarch@189.188.159.185) joined ##slackware. [16:25] KaMii: getting text-to-speech support into KDE 4.x requires several other pieces of software to be present... which Slackware does not ship [16:27] fonseg (~fonseg@58.187.112.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:31] it worked in 3.5 [16:31] what do I need for 4.3? [16:32] rafu (rafu@77.53.11.107) left ##slackware. [16:32] flite sort of works but not the way I like it to, and i cant figure out how to get it to speak a .pdf file, im thinking it does not [16:33] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:33] Urugami (~KB5YRZ@235.sub-97-228-97.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [16:33] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [16:35] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-20-252.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [16:36] hrm..... Slackware 13.1 (not for the disabled....) not sounding good imo [16:36] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:38] how did you end up with kde 4.3, btw? [16:39] stormtracknole (stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [16:39] oh, 4.4.3 I guess? [16:41] I have yet to bump from the last 13 -current to 13.1 [16:41] [16:41] Agiofws_ (~Agiofws@athedsl-423613.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:41] Agiofws_ (~Agiofws@athedsl-423613.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:46] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:49] rahulrp (rahul@p57B034A6.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:51] killing firefox -_- [16:51] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:52] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) joined ##slackware. [16:53] ... [16:53] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:53] isw_ (~i@c-67-181-224-97.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:55] petera3 (pa3@75-149-128-53-Connecticut.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left ##slackware. [16:57] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:58] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:01] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-56-52.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [17:02] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [17:04] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: gone [17:05] rahulrp (~rahul@p57B034A6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:05] any one using hugin, i got a problem! [17:05] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [17:06] wow [17:06] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/dropbox-client/ [17:07] ya i guess 4.4.3 idk, its the KDE that shipped with slack 13.1... IMO this version of KDE should totally be beta maybe it is? [17:08] no, it's not beta. [17:08] well it sure is buggy [17:09] im about to just abandon it and go for fluxbox or xfce [17:09] or whatever its called [17:09] kde 4.4.x has a few issues, still, yes. [17:09] but when I loaded up fluxbox, no audio worked [17:09] so that was a major negative [17:09] works for me [17:10] and it did not import my KDE menu :( [17:10] so I would have to rebuild that [17:10] um yeah cause it's totally different.. [17:10] KaMii, I think you are expecting way too much of Fluxbox [17:10] they use different ways of doing the menu [17:10] FluxBox doesn't have it's own sound server, and certainly won't import anything from a full DE. It is just a basic WM [17:11] im just so use to KDE, i use Fluxbox on this lappy, but everything is so basic i dont use much on here, just irc and news [17:11] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:11] oh, so I would have to set up the sound server and mess with all that on my own? [17:11] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:11] If you are looking for something in between KDE and Flux, then definitely give XFCE a try. [17:11] ya, maybe i will take a look at it one day [17:11] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:12] im just getting tired of KDE crashing [17:12] I have never had an issue of no sound in fluxfox [17:12] what didn't have sound? [17:12] nothing had sound in Fluxbox [17:12] That still doesn't answer the question [17:12] Urugami (~KB5YRZ@235.sub-97-228-97.myvzw.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:12] then something is f'd with your system.. worked stock with me [17:13] name specific programs.. audacious, firefox, mpg123, etc work for me [17:13] well i installed slack 13.1 from update from 13.0 [17:13] and that was updated from 12.2 [17:13] as did I [17:13] No part of FluxBox makes sound, so Flux itself would have nothing to do with it. Which individual programs didn't have sound is what he asked. [17:13] so maybe somewere there was a fubar [17:13] I've used fluxbox for years with no sound problems.. [17:13] hi [17:13] is there any way to mount CD-ROM in lower speed ? [17:14] wine apps did not give sound, audacious did not give sound (i think that program crashed flux cant rember) xmms did not give sound [17:14] but everything works in kde [17:14] did you check your mixer settings? [17:14] ya, they were on [17:14] but no sound came [17:14] it was strange [17:14] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:15] did you try changing the audio system used? as in alsa, oss, etc [17:15] i did not do much, just booted in, saw no sound workd and quit within about 5 minutes [17:15] so it was a really fast test [17:16] i will give xfce a try [17:16] maybe i will like it [17:16] kde uses / starts arts. I think most of what I use goes with alsa, plus I user alsa mixer so yeah. I don't know much about how sound works.. but.. still thinking you had something off that was simple to fix [17:16] KaMii: let me guess... your soundcard can't deal with more than one audio stream and alsa doesn't have software mixing enabled by default [17:16] r0ger (~sixx@212.183.140.45) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:16] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [17:16] something is keeping your soundcard busy so everything else can't get through [17:16] no, im pretty sure it can handle more than one audio stream [17:17] i usually place music with either audacious or spotify, while playing WoW at the same time [17:17] and I hear both [17:17] when using kde, right? [17:17] i think maybe just the service wasnt turned on... [17:17] yes when using kde [17:17] sometimes arts takes control of sound for me.. have to kill it to get sound through other programs [17:18] like i said, the fluxbox test only lasted 5 minutes, when I saw the menu was not imported and the sound wasnt working, I really didnt want to spend all the time to get it imported and working to find out that I do not like the look and feel of fluxbox [17:18] KaMii: arts (kde's sound server) is keeping the soundcard busy, but it receives all the streams that can talk with it and forward it to the soundcard [17:18] how can arts be started when I am in fluxbox though? [17:19] did you open kde, close it, then switch to flux? could have started arts [17:19] or starting a kde app [17:19] oh, probably [17:19] you dont need arts. enable softmixing in alsa and you'd be ready to go [17:19] kde crap was probably in the background [17:19] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:19] so wait, if boot my computer, then start fluxbox, then later load up a kde app, that might load up arts as well, and break my sound? [17:19] I usually just use run / urxvt / firefox in the menu.. should just hotkey it all [17:19] yes [17:20] hrm... flux is really starting to sound like it will piss me off [17:20] will XFCE do this also? [17:20] Do what? [17:20] though I think it no longer does that for me in 13.1.. but.. I think I disable sound in everything anyway [17:20] .... [17:20] break sound [17:20] Flux didn't break sound [17:20] this has nothing to do with xfce/flux [17:20] your soundcard sucks, kde is compensating by using a sound server [17:20] i know its not breaking the sound, but will xfce load arts if I load a kde program [17:21] Flux has absolutely zero support for sound, it literally can't do anything with your sound hardware/software. So the problem is somewhere else [17:21] Well did he alrady run alsaconf? [17:21] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [17:21] and alsamixer and then alsactl store ? [17:21] the background stuff will load for kde apps anywhere if they aren't already there [17:21] KaMii: linux has its own mechanism to deal with soundcards like yours. alsa can do softmixing and that will fix your problem as long as all the applications you run are using alsa [17:22] You can enable or disable starting KDE services at XFCE startup, but the problem with KDE apps starting arts is an issue with KDE and how it is designed. [17:22] ok... see thats going to always cause me problems then, because there are some programs that are KDE specific that I use regularily [17:22] mako-sama: to reply to a few of your comments: KDE4 has abandoned arts - it's no longer there. And ALSA does software mixing from multiple sources by default [17:22] so i guess im stuck with kde [17:23] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:23] alienBOB: didn't know that.. I do test kde every now and then but I never tested kde4 :P [17:23] ArTourter (~artourter@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:23] alienBOB: your dropbox slackbuild works :D [17:24] i doubt its my soundcard, its probably just some configuration thing i need to figure out [17:24] because I have only ever used KDE on that system [17:24] alienBOB: so what is KDE using now? alsa without servers or is it using something newer like pulse? [17:24] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-139-199.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:24] its not using pulse [17:24] thats gnome [17:25] KaMii: there is no rule that says pulse can only be used by gnome [17:25] KDE4 has re-worked the sound support from the ground up [17:25] i didnt say that mako-sama [17:25] i just said, KDE is not using pulse [17:25] its not shipped with it [17:25] i know you can use it, you have to use it if you want to run songbird [17:25] KDE can use pulseaudio if you want it to [17:26] KDe4 uses phonon multimedia api [17:26] Herman (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [17:26] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:27] but i would love to see something like jack in kde [17:27] alienBOB: that sounds great.. so sound isn't so laggy with KDE now? :P [17:27] KDE uses Phonon, which can use multiple backends. [17:27] I never had lag [17:27] i never had lag either [17:27] arts has always been laggy for me [17:27] Phonon was developed by and for KDE but has since been added to Qt, so that you can use phonon without KDE [17:27] i will have to do some more testing with fluxbox and also give XFCE a try, see whats going on there [17:28] Action: dustybin will only start using kde when god starts using it again [17:29] arts always had a few milliseconds lag between play/stop [17:29] but since arts isnt used anymore, is phonon not shutting down then? or is it being called on when running a kde app in a no-kde environement? [17:29] asteroid (~aster@110.47.85-79.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:29] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:30] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:32] i didnt know that when you shut down kde, it still keeps some processes running, why would it do that? is there a command to have KDE fully kill all it's services? [17:33] nvision (~nvision@e179137147.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:33] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:34] I'm not quite sure if it does, I just know the apps won't kill them. check with ps x [17:34] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:35] surge (surge@pool-98-118-157-221.bflony.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [17:35] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [17:36] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:37] rahulrp (rahul@p57B034A6.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:37] Has anyone got any problems with kopete and login in to googletalk on 13.1? I get an error that "SSL support could not be initialised" "This is most likely because TLS support in QCA is not available" I get this on all my 13.1 boxes? [17:40] ok... um sound works in both fluxbox and xfce4 now... I remember now, last time i tried them, i was using slackware 12.2 and sound never worked when switching environments [17:41] now all i have to do is just configure them to look the way i want, and mess around with my .xinitrc file [17:41] thanks guys [17:41] neuro_sys (~neuro@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:44] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:45] pnq (asdf@ACA3BFDE.ipt.aol.com) joined ##slackware. [17:45] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [17:46] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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[18:08] alkos333 (~alkos333@70-8-6-94.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:13] Roin (~florian@p5B2BCB21.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya all o/ [18:14] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:16] nvision (~nvision@e179137147.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:17] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:20] I'm disturbed that I'm enjoying my time in gnome on slackware so much [18:21] O.o [18:21] why does that disturb you? [18:21] darkwurm: don't feel so disturbed, god uses gnome :D [18:21] I dunno, I generally don't mess with de's very much [18:22] mostly cause they feel bloated and useless but the gsb version is really nice [18:22] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-144-251.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [18:22] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [18:23] liking it to the point that it might be my default x env for a while heh [18:23] dustybin, God uses fluxbox :> [18:23] beat me too it [18:23] fluxbox ftw [18:23] oh does he? [18:23] or is that Satan? [18:23] I use fluxbox quite a bit [18:23] gnome is alright. [18:23] maybe both [18:23] i like gnome better than kde [18:24] kde makes me wanna kpuke [18:24] i like xfce better than kdo but i like fluxbox out of them all [18:24] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) joined ##slackware. [18:24] I prefer kde to xfce nowdays [18:25] but fluxbox more than * [18:25] same here [18:25] does what I need without all the extra [18:26] this laptop is using xfce. since technology is getting cheaper and better, i can afford to spend some resources on fancy hoo-ha-ha [18:26] I use to like xfce before they changed the desktop menu [18:26] i stopped using the menu [18:26] i like wbar [18:26] not tried that yet [18:27] xfce has been nice when I want a few more features, but for some strange reason gnome is "feeling" more together to me at the moment, it might be cause I haven't used gnome in years [18:27] it's fancy. gives the Mac icon bar [18:27] I used to use bbdock in flux [18:27] yead, i used to use that too [18:27] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [18:27] but now prefer just use menu and keep icons off desktop [18:27] yeah, i hate icons on my desktop [18:28] i hate seeing peoples desktops with 40 icons on their desktop all over the place [18:28] that includes a dock fo rme [18:28] i've been using compiz + emerald + wbar lately [18:29] it's aesthically pleasing [18:29] someone posted a really nice sahara bg on LQ [18:29] http://www.dawoodfall.net/sshots/9914611722.gif [18:29] definitely not what i'm use to. [18:30] daaaaang [18:31] i like that BG [18:31] i'm still using that nightshot of a salt flat [18:31] I can scp it over to my web if you want to download it [18:31] yeah if you don't mind [18:31] i dig good photography like that [18:32] whose idea was it to change the tux logo to that shiny round kid looking tux? [18:32] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: brb [18:33] ezrafree (ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. [18:33] ezrafree (ezra@208.67.159.229) left irc: Changing host [18:33] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [18:33] http://www.dawoodfall.net/sshots/02164_sahara_1600x1200.jpg [18:33] tux logo where? [18:33] thanks [18:34] hold on [18:34] tux on my site? [18:34] no [18:34] the other day i was googling "linux tux" [18:34] and it was actually hard to find the original version of tux [18:35] ah [18:35] gh0st (~gh0st@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:36] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [18:36] nvision (~nvision@e179137147.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [18:36] i'm trying to find the large clusters of pics i'm specifically talking about [18:37] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [18:37] isw_ (~i@c-67-181-224-97.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:37] Herman (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:37] http://planetared.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/tux.jpg [18:38] one example [18:38] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:39] Cann0n: are you looking for a image of tux? [18:40] no. i was trying to show someone the origins of my tux tattoo i get a few years back [18:40] ah [18:40] you have a tux tattoo? [18:41] and google images kept showing this shitty tux that looks like it has downs [18:41] slackytude|evil: yep, on my left leg. [18:41] eh [18:41] taking linux propaganda to the next level [18:42] yeah [18:43] i dunno. we should just switch to the Icee penguin while we are at it [18:44] asarch (~asarch@189.188.159.185) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:45] pnq (asdf@ACA3BFDE.ipt.aol.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:49] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [18:50] asarch (~asarch@189.188.159.185) joined ##slackware. [18:50] How can I set the VGA monitor as the main monitor? [18:50] Here is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf: http://slackware.pastebin.com/dN649 [18:51] nvision (~nvision@e179137147.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [18:51] probably xrandr [18:51] tux tattoo >_< [18:52] i guess the line to not cross is in different places for different people lol [18:52] asarch: you running multiple monitors i suppose? [18:52] Yes, I am [18:52] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:53] Just two, the laptop monitor and my old IBM 17" monitor (plugged via VGA) [18:54] asarch: xrandr as slackytude|evil suggested [18:54] man xrandr [18:55] Let's see if it works [18:55] BRB! [18:55] asarch (~asarch@189.188.159.185) left irc: Client Quit [18:55] ok, on xcfe, why under keyboard layout does it say russian? [18:55] it has russian and finnish, but not Swedish [18:55] xsamurai (~jamonyou@unaffiliated/xsamurai) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:55] Swedish is not even close to russian, wrong alphabet [18:58] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:59] you can change the keyboard layout to swedish by typing 'setxkbmap -layout se' [18:59] Kowalczyk (kowalczyk@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [19:01] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-144-251.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:07] mike3000 (~11@c-75-67-115-103.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] Can someone please lend guidance. Suddenly, I can't boot Slackware 12.2 server. Lilo starts and chooses kernel, but it goes "Loading Linux ....." then quits and won't load kernel. I fsck'ed the filesystem and it's fine. I can mount /dev/sda2 with a rescue disc. Just can't boot the kernel. Please help me fix. [19:10] dartmouth (~dartmouth@72.95.97.163) joined ##slackware. [19:10] asarch (~asarch@189.188.159.185) joined ##slackware. [19:12] did you change anything you can think of, mike3000 ? [19:13] asarch (~asarch@189.188.159.185) left irc: Client Quit [19:14] mike3000: what happened prior to this? [19:14] the only thing i can think of is -- i plugged another hard drive in while the server was on. it had another slackware 12.2 install on it. [19:14] i was going to copy some data from one to the other. [19:14] mike3000: and when you say 'quits', what does that really mean? what's shown on the screen? [19:14] that's the only thing i can think of [19:14] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Quit: FSF Free Software Foundation [19:15] asarch (~asarch@189.188.159.185) joined ##slackware. [19:15] The screen is exctly this -- Loading Linux ................ [19:15] mike3000: and does it stop, or does it continue to show those dots? [19:15] but it does not go any further. stops. kernel doesn't load and screen stays this way with cursor blinking [19:16] i tried installing a backup kernel, but it makes the same result. [19:17] mike3000, i'd make sure there's no confusion with disk boot order and naming in your bios (and physically) [19:17] my /boot directory is on the same partition as / [19:17] ahh, let me start the rescuecd and see what dmesg says.....can you all bear with me for a moment. [19:18] no [19:18] Thank you all for talking to me.....i'm getting calmer just knowing you are here [19:18] aww [19:18] how sweet [19:18] mike3000, also check lilo; make sure you're booting what you think you're booting [19:18] Dartmouth -- No? -- what, don't run the rescue cd? [19:20] pireau (1000@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [19:24] mike3000: for what it's worth, i had the same thing happen recently and it turned out to be a bad mem stick [19:24] boot started, went to the "..." [19:24] and nothing else [19:24] just stalled [19:25] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:27] lancel00t (~robwatson@96-42-15-86.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:27] Thanks Shonudo, I'll probably try that too. [19:27] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [19:28] thank mancha; he's the one who pointed me in the right direction (i thought it was the MBR, then i thought it was the HDD, etc) [19:29] crud...i can't do /sbin/lilo because i have the hd mounted from livecd. it says cannot open /etc/lilo.conf because the path is really mounted as /root/sda2/etc/lilo.conf ugggh [19:29] nachox (imarambio@200.68.83.121) left ##slackware. [19:30] arcfide (~arcfide@adsl-99-75-51-152.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:31] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [19:32] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [19:36] sQuEE` (~squee@190.230.11.33) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:37] sQuEE` (~squee@190.230.11.33) joined ##slackware. [19:37] Shonudo: just swapped out the RAM and the same thing is happening. kernel stops loading. [19:37] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-65.fpscc.den.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] Shonudo: wish it was going to be that easy for me. [19:39] hmmm... and everything was working at some point? [19:39] all day working fine. i only shut down the server to copy some data after plugging in another drive. [19:39] is the drive still plugged in? [19:39] the new drive* [19:39] no. [19:39] okay [19:40] only the Slack 12.2 OS drive [19:40] and that's the configuration you've always had? [19:40] yes [19:41] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.119) joined ##slackware. [19:41] well, it could just be coincidence (something was dinked, wasn't going to manifest itself until a reboot) [19:41] and since you removed the newly installed drive, you're back to the original setup [19:41] yes [19:41] is there something i can try using the slack 12.2 install disc? [19:41] did you change the fstab, alter any config files, etc? [19:42] you'll be able to boot using the slack disk [19:42] or you "should" be able to boot [19:42] over the weekend i added this line to my lilo.conf: append = "raid = noautodetect" [19:43] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [19:43] i did this because i was trying the drive in a RAID 1 setup on another piece of hardware. [19:43] and you thought it was bad or something? [19:43] BUT -- I plugged in back into original server on Sunday and it's been running right until 6 pm today Monday when i rebooted [19:44] well, the only thing i know from that information is that you're on the east coast [19:44] No, everything was fine with cloning the drive to another when i built raid 1 array. [19:45] heheh, yep. [19:45] no fstab or config file changes at all? [19:45] you didn't change anything? [19:45] none. [19:45] noper. [19:45] LSD` (~ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:46] how about bios: did you change anything (boot order, identify a new drive, a scsi emulation/raid setting, etc)? [19:47] No, just checked the bios and all is reading the same -- disc identified as native IDE, and there's only one hard drive in the box and the bios reports it correctly [19:47] you could go to bios and make sure the bios didn't auto-identify something in the process [19:47] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:47] please explain what to look for there........will try right now. [19:48] look for "something different" (sorry, i don't know what hardware or bios setting you're running) [19:48] just look for something that doesn't gel with what you're running [19:48] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) joined ##slackware. [19:49] bacal (~rauflau@cpe-66-8-175-100.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:49] it totally the same as before [19:49] okay, so you checked memory, you checked the bois, you haven't changed the configuration... [19:49] trying to think of what to look for next [19:50] could start by looking for additional help: [19:50] mancha, are you here? [19:50] anyone else? [19:51] lancel00t (~robwatson@96-42-15-86.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:51] lilo starts and calls kernel.......but kernel won't load all the way.....this is killing me. [19:51] bacal (~rauflau@cpe-66-8-175-100.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [19:52] and you're sure you identified the right kernel (right bzImage, whatever)? [19:52] u have start up disc? [19:52] this isn't a new kernel or a new lilo.conf? [19:53] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [19:53] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-20-252.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [19:53] have you tried loading it manually using the installation CD? [19:53] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:54] hmmm, i just reinstalled my original 2.6.30.4.....i wonder if i have to create a new symbolic link to it?? never had to do that before. [19:54] if you changed that, you have to redo lilo [19:54] lilo won't guess [19:55] but it's the same name in lilo --- linux-2.6.30.4 [19:55] i copied it over. [19:55] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:55] name doesn't matter [19:55] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4419, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-06-04 01:07:21 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [19:56] you can restore lilo using disk 1 (or whatever startup disk) of the slackware distro [19:56] okay, so how do i run /sbin/lilo from a livecd.....it looks for path /etc/lilo.conf and doesn't find it [19:56] ^^ read above [19:56] just go back and reconfigure lilo [19:56] chroot [19:57] mount /dev/whatever /mnt/foo; chroot foo; lilo [19:57] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Quit: "I'll be dreaming....of chronic masturbation.... to tune of Red hot chilli peppers' Californication ..... Zzzzzz" [19:57] don't know how --- i usually just mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /root/sda2 << /root/sda2 is the directory i mount to while in livecd [19:57] regardless of how you get there, i think you've identified your own problem [19:57] lilo isn't configured right [19:58] you changed kernels [19:58] okay, lemme grab the install disk [19:59] slackytude: what's the "chroot foo" can't figure that [20:00] slackytude: is it "chroot /mounted/directory/for/root" ?? is that what you mean? [20:01] yes [20:01] if you mounted your partition as foo, you chroot foo [20:02] mount /dev/whatever /mnt/foo; chroot foo; [20:02] ah [20:02] mount /dev/whatever /mnt/foo; chroot /mnt/foo; [20:02] ^ [20:02] ("foo" is old-school fancy for "whatever", "wherever") :) [20:02] where foo is your root partition [20:02] mannynix (~mannynix@201.132.137.13) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:02] old school? [20:02] bah [20:02] slackytude: thanks, got it right now. [20:02] lol [20:02] get of my lan [20:03] joke [20:03] going to try.........afk for a min [20:04] no, the right answer is "lilo -r /mnt/foo" ... chroot will not work without /proc [20:04] mannynix (~mannynix@201.132.137.13) joined ##slackware. [20:04] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@168-103-63-219.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:05] another choice is to use the CD to boot into the install, as the CD itself tells you how to do. [20:05] it does work without /proc [20:05] it will issue a warning [20:05] but no error [20:07] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [20:08] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:09] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:10] gh0st_ (~gh0st@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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My next question, shadow-4.1.4.2 is broken? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6056674.html?sid=c1cd488958898705db1e8810ccbc47d3 [22:36] If use this version, you get a situation http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/13-1-64-su-and-locale-problem-811085/ If use the version of shadow-4.1.2.2, then the locale does not change. [22:36] ? [22:40] answers? [22:40] will? [22:41] batmayne (~batman@75.110.36.127) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:41] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:41] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [22:47] isw_ (~i@c-67-181-224-97.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:48] nah,buzzin..handshake'll do.....think #Krishnachat's node may still be in operation...:) [22:48] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:51] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. 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[23:41] it worked for a little while and then just stopped working randomly 0_o [23:44] Aidar-Nagato (admin@77.79.178.77.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [23:46] tuvok302Lappy (tuvok302@clgrtnt7-port-110.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:50] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-66-68-104-116.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:51] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:52] Nick change: bgs100 -> bgs000 [23:53] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-157-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] I've never really ised deluge, how does it compare to transmission and utorrent? [23:55] tehrabbitt, try ktorrent [23:55] darkwurm: well, without using it myself i can tell you it is better than utorrent since you can use it with slackware :) [23:55] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [23:55] ktorrent 4 has µtp feature [23:55] haha well that much is true [23:56] i use either rtorrent or ktorrent depending on whether or not i am on a system with x/kde [23:56] rtorrent is nice, all I've ever used on linux [23:56] w/ rtorrent can you set a daemon? [23:57] powtrix: i don't think so. i use it with screen. [23:57] I use utorrent and transmission on osx [23:57] i am looking one to config as daemon [23:57] powtrix: there is a chance it might. i'm not 100% sure. [23:58] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:59] pnq (asdf@ACA4A8D7.ipt.aol.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:00] --- Tue Jun 15 2010