[00:00] ok i find a wiki tomorrow then [00:00] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.81.241) joined ##slackware. [00:02] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [00:03] echtts (~echtts@189-18-129-9.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:04] echtts (~echtts@189-18-129-9.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [00:04] syntax_error: I use a Slackbuild script, usually from slackbuilds.org [00:05] say what?? http://zuzutop.com/2010/03/hundred-year-old-woman-grows-horn-in-forehead/ [00:05] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] echtts (~echtts@189-18-129-9.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:07] echtts (~echtts@189-18-129-9.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [00:07] echtts (~echtts@189-18-129-9.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:07] mancha: that thing real????? [00:08] echtts (~echtts@189-18-129-9.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [00:08] I want a horn... [00:08] syntax_error (~sineror@host149-116-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:09] the dude in pic 4 is holding a JOINT [00:10] heh [00:13] gartral|vm (~gareth@unaffiliated/gartral) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:13] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:15] http://www.boingboing.net/200707051628.jpg [00:16] echtts (~echtts@189-18-129-9.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:16] echtts (~echtts@189-18-129-9.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [00:17] d3m0n3 (~EviL@2001:470:d11a::aaaa) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:18] d3m0n3 (~EviL@2001:470:d11a::aaaa) joined ##slackware. [00:20] Is this http://www.shareordie.in/star-santa-girls-25-pics/ Michelle Monaghan: http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2008/04/eagle-eye-movie-still.jpg or a weird Michael Jackson picture? [00:21] http://www.shareordie.in/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/starsantagirls_11.jpg [00:23] Action: byteframe 's on-login fortune: Avoid gunfire in the bathroom tonight. [00:24] echtts (~echtts@189-18-129-9.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:26] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:29] byteframe: Well, you chose to receive offensive fortune cookies yourself ;) [00:29] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:31] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:31] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) left irc: Read error: No route to host [00:33] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. 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[01:00] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [01:00] heh... for anyone who's not a fan of Obambi: [01:00] http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg [01:02] for anyone who's not a bush fan. [01:02] http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ [01:03] That's not a Bush thing, it's an Obama thing... he said he was going to end the war, but like all his other "promises", it was just blowing smoke. [01:03] he has no choice. [01:03] chemosh (~chemosh@5354A903.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:03] neither did Bush [01:03] he knows if he ends anything, cheney will order another attack from .il and another 9/11 will happen [01:03] bush had a choice [01:04] lol [01:04] to not approve of what .il did on 9/11 [01:04] you really think obama is an idiot ? [01:04] WTF is ".il"? [01:04] obama promised to accept the armenian genocide, he didn't. i'm not mad. [01:04] politics ==> ##-offtopic [01:04] israel [01:04] he knows he can't, or he'll lose turkey (muslim ally) [01:04] simple as that. [01:04] dont be ignorant [01:04] WTF is ".il"? [01:04] ignored [01:05] danc3: israel tld [01:05] oh [01:05] so...... jeev believes *Israel* is responsible for 9/11....? ROFL. Ok, he's a whacko. Got it. [01:07] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:07] danc3: yea.. israel called their buddies in Saudi Arabia and got them to send a few guys.. Oh.. wait.. the Saudi's hate Israel more than they hate the USA.. [01:08] yea, do the math, read what happened. read all th e spying they do, all the shit they know, all the ones who got arrested that day [01:08] do the math and dont be ignorant, by the way. half the saudis are still alive [01:08] and the US government claims identity theft. [01:08] LOL [01:09] and those tapes they showed of the "saudis" boarding airplanes were off and doctored. i wonder who did airport security? oh yea, an israeli company. anyway [01:09] im done talking bout this, remain stupid. saudi != iraq and afghanistan [01:09] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [01:09] LOL at jeev! [01:09] jeev: you should get one of these: http://zapatopi.net/afdb/ - it really helps! [01:10] right after you get this [01:10] http://www.ipmc.cnrs.fr/~duprat/neurophysiology/images/brain2.jpg [01:10] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:10] haha, there was a distro for that [01:10] "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of p [01:10] -- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials [01:10] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [01:11] OK, whacko status for jeev is confirmed. [01:11] skaalid (~skaalid@pdpc/supporter/active/skaalid) joined ##slackware. [01:11] Just because you have a brain doesn't mean you use it properly. Look at our buddy, jeev, for an example of that fact. [01:11] so you can continue paying for the war over there, because 3k american lives which they didn't have a hand at [01:11] and obama will sit and try to figure out what to do with bush's disaster [01:11] and he can't even give health care to his own people. [01:11] trhodes, you mean this one http://tinfoilhat.shmoo.com/ ? [01:11] that's how queer you are [01:11] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [01:12] ROFL! [01:12] jeev: His own people don't want his socialist/commie crap healthcare! [01:12] my brains: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/Fried_egg,_sunny_side_up_(black_background).PNG [01:12] yes, tinfoil hat linus ;) [01:12] *linux [01:13] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinfoil_Hat_Linux [01:13] danc3: that doesnt matter to them tho.. they will try their damndest to push it thru.. because once they get it.. all they have to do is say "if you dont vote for us, the other guy will take away your health care" and be in power forever. [01:14] break19: maybe, but it looks more and more like it won't pass [01:14] the Dimocrats are starting to realize it will mean the end of their political careers [01:14] and they'll be tossed out in November [01:14] none of them want that to happen [01:15] skaalid (skaalid@pdpc/supporter/active/skaalid) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:15] A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy. - D' Toqueville [01:16] that's why our country is a Republic, not a Democracy... [01:16] danc3: indeed, however.. it is becoming more and more a democracy as more and more power is being transferred from the states to the federal government [01:17] well, I would call that more like a shift towards socialism, or even communism... [01:17] brbrbr (~basiley@89.208.116.17) joined ##slackware. [01:17] I believe the term that the progressives use is "Democratic Socialism" [01:18] heh [01:18] sure, there will be elections, one side will say "vote for us, we'll give you more stuff" the other side will say "No.. we will" [01:19] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:19] which is unsustainable. [01:19] [01:19] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [01:20] but, when did this become #slackware-politics :p [01:20] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@212.251.108.53.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:25] besides. I'm gonna reboot into my usb drive's LFS system.. [01:25] then log.. so. nite all [01:25] break19 (~break19@c-67-177-67-170.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: lfs -> zzz's [01:31] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! 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[03:05] would any one like to try my custom boot logo (vga16) for slackware ? http://imagebin.org/88810 [03:06] tsccof (~martin@200-96-90-222.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:10] v6CommO (~chris@pool-74-111-219-13.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [03:10] john_dee (~id@93-81-137-50.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [03:10] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-122-218.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:11] crashdata (~crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [03:11] zed_DX (~kvirc@187.146.136.135) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [03:11] NoelleRousell (~189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-kxyzijxcdqfuvbpr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:12] i'm checking the udpate on current [03:12] its giving me error for verfication [03:12] tsccof (~martin@200-96-90-222.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [03:12] saying that the gpg signature on CHECKSUMS.md5 failed [03:13] nvm i know y [03:15] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-239.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:15] john_dee (~id@93-81-137-50.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:17] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.12.220) joined ##slackware. [03:26] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-3-64.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:28] slackmagic (1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:32] slackmagic (1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [03:36] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.12.220) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:36] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:38] pipes (~pipes@jaki.org) left irc: Quit: Reconnecting [03:39] pipes (~pipes@freedomisnothingtofear.com) joined ##slackware. [03:41] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-185.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:41] jafnhar (~jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [03:42] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:44] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC3001B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [03:45] How do I upload music to my ipod on slackware? [03:45] Are there any tools to upload music to ipod? [03:46] gtkpod [03:48] mancha, Is this a gnome tool? [03:48] no [03:49] mancha, thnx! I will try it out. [03:52] ok [03:56] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [03:59] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:01] Where do you install the adobe flash player? the only file has .so ending. [04:02] ~/.mozilla/plugins or /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins (/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins for 64bit) [04:02] Axius (~hi@92.82.68.10) joined ##slackware. [04:02] Axius (~hi@92.82.68.10) left irc: Client Quit [04:03] fire|bird, thnx [04:03] how can i save more on my car insurance? [04:03] antler: gotta get Geico [04:03] :P [04:03] hehe [04:08] how can I save more on car insurance without hearing talking geckos or offending cavemen ? [04:08] walk [04:08] switch to nationwide, they're on your side. ;) [04:09] :P [04:09] i actually do walk a lot [04:09] too bad that doesn't save $$$ [04:10] (on insurance) [04:10] that doesn't save on car insurance? of course it does, if you walk instead of drive. [04:10] Well, start walking and biking, ditch the insurance and sell the car, you'll even make a profit. ;) [04:11] i used to be car free [04:11] being car free sucks balls [04:11] now I'm rural and basically need a car [04:11] antler: car free's the way to be, if you want to save money. [04:11] in a a decent city it's not bad [04:11] [04:11] s/a\ a/a [04:12] fire|bird: you don't drive? [04:12] antler: I didn't say that, was just joking about that. :P [04:12] antler: However, I'm a bird, I fly you insensitive clod. [04:12] :P [04:12] hahaha.... pidgeon. [04:13] or is is pigeon [04:13] rfc2549 [04:13] pigeon [04:13] or pidgin if you so choose. :P [04:13] hahah i remember bugging you about that, fire|bird [04:13] I do too. :) [04:14] pigeons make excellent avian carriers, and pidgins make excellent instant messengers [04:15] oooooooo.... 'avian carriers' [04:15] birds of burden ? [04:15] (sorry fire|bird :P ) [04:16] You should be. :P [04:16] that was aweful. :P [04:16] yeah *sigh* [04:20] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:23] can't make program to start up... in my rc.local [04:25] Is there a battery monitor for xfce on Slackware? [04:26] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-185.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:27] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [04:30] ferdna: why not ? [04:30] trhodes, idk... [04:31] hmm, me neither :P [04:31] tell me more [04:31] i am trying to start icecast, and then ices [04:31] but no success [04:31] they start fine manually ? [04:32] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [04:33] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Bye..... [04:33] trhodes, yes they do [04:34] spelling error? maybe the rc.local is not executable? [04:34] antler, it is... [04:36] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:37] My system is listing the xfce4-power-manager as installed. When I click on "add items" the power or battery option is not listed. What am I missing? [04:37] rwerken (~rob@82-169-213-233.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [04:37] power manager appears to do shutdowns / hibernaters / whatever [04:37] here's a link:http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-battery-plugin [04:39] nader (~nader@91.98.94.12) joined ##slackware. [04:40] ferdna: just curious, do you want network audio ? (or internet audio) [04:40] weird.... i've never thought about it until now, but saturday is named after saturn. :D [04:41] happy pi satur-day [04:41] err wait :P [04:41] pi sun-day (neat factoid, antler ;) ) [04:43] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-3-64.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [04:44] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [04:44] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-421908.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [04:44] kyle_l5l (~kyle@cpe-72-230-232-130.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [04:44] thnx [04:44] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC3001B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:45] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-421908.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:45] nader (~nader@91.98.94.12) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:45] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-214-149.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [04:45] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [04:46] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E4423.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:47] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Quit: 42 [04:47] Axtroz (1000@77.78.15.8) joined ##slackware. [04:49] nader (~nader@213.217.37.80) joined ##slackware. [04:49] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:50] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:51] ferdna: presumably, you get an icecast / ices startup error (somewhere) ? what is it? [04:51] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:52] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [04:53] maybe an error.log (locate errog.log) [04:54] trhodes, it runs fine if i run it manually [04:54] how do you invoke it ? [04:54] but if i create a script, in rc.d [04:54] -c ? [04:54] or rc.local [04:55] nop [04:55] trhodes, su icesuser -c "ices -B -c /config.xml" [04:55] can you pastebin your rc.local ? [04:55] Axtroz (1000@77.78.15.8) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:55] hmm ok [04:55] trhodes, rc.local is empty [04:57] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:58] what was in your rc.local when you tried to start it at boot ? [04:59] or did you make an rc.d script ? [04:59] valsiterb (~valsiterb@130.207.broadband7.iol.cz) joined ##slackware. [05:00] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-61-30.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [05:02] trhodes, i made an rc.d script [05:02] for icecast [05:02] and i added a line in rc.local for ices [05:03] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-3-64.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:03] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:03] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [05:04] did you add something to rc.M to start the rc.icecast script ? [05:04] john_dee (~id@93-81-137-50.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:04] afaik, just start them both in rc.local [05:05] (you would need something in rc.M for your rc.icecast script to be called) [05:05] shadowx (~7350@singularity.darknetx.eu) joined ##slackware. [05:06] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Client Quit [05:07] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [05:07] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [05:07] trhodes, why rc.M? [05:07] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-61-30.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [05:08] well that's just fsckin great. i just lost an hour here. [05:08] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Client Quit [05:08] john_dee (~id@95-29-185-177.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:08] i can't start Apache [05:08] j0z (~j0z@201.22.37.37.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:08] j0z (~j0z@201.22.37.37.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [05:08] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [05:09] ferdna: because rc.M is what calls all those nice /etc/rc.d/ scripts :) (check it out) [05:10] antler: maybe you can charge interest on it 'til next fall ;) [05:10] make a few bux [05:10] trhodes, i have disabled the script in rc.d... and now i am calling it from rc.local [05:10] restarting box [05:10] ok, sounds good [05:10] well you can telinit 1 [05:10] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@212.251.108.53.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:11] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.88.218) joined ##slackware. [05:12] Axius (~hi@92.82.68.10) joined ##slackware. [05:13] trhodes: or another way to look at it: i gained an hour last november; so i haven't really lost anything at all. it turns out i'm just a whiner, a silly little girly man. [05:13] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [05:13] my Apache can't listen on ports [05:16] nader (~nader@213.217.37.80) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:16] as are lots of us ;) [05:16] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Client Quit [05:17] valsiterb: are you getting an error such as can't bind port ? [05:17] yes [05:17] Axius (~hi@92.82.68.10) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:17] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [05:18] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Client Quit [05:18] valsiterb: are you using apachetl or /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd ? [05:19] somewhere along the line, apache needs privileges to bind port 80 [05:19] personally, i don't know much about apache :/ [05:21] apachetl [05:23] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-209-128.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [05:24] botnet (~void@c-24-19-69-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [05:24] are you starting it as root ? [05:24] nonroot shouldn't see apachectl ;) [05:24] it should become UID:GID 80:80 [05:24] ok :P [05:24] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [05:26] unless /usr/sbin is in $path for some reason [05:26] botnet (~void@75-92-207-253.war.clearwire-wmx.net) joined ##slackware. [05:27] um, (as root) lsof -i :80 #? [05:28] it's weird, why could it not bind unless there aren't the correct privileges or something else has it ? [05:29] Constantinegggfg (uaconstant@91.202.131.104) joined ##slackware. [05:29] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [05:29] trhodes, it didnt work [05:29] 5x httpd at IPv6... [05:30] killed, started, It works! [05:30] thanks [05:30] nice :) [05:30] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.88.218) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:31] next... mysql returns error 2002 [05:31] i need these both started [05:31] SETKEH (~setkeh@58.109.7.11) joined ##slackware. [05:31] ferdna: i don't really know enough of what's going on to help you much. [05:32] yeah, that is cool... i will try tomorrow [05:32] thank you [05:32] ok, i'll be around then [05:32] :) [05:32] i need to get to bed not anyway :P [05:32] *now [05:32] you're welcome anyways [05:32] if it's not fixed by then, i'll help ya with it [05:33] gn [05:33] later [05:33] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC3001B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [05:33] __marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [05:34] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-14.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [05:34] SETKEH (~setkeh@58.109.7.11) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:35] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn2-212-50-134-151.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [05:35] Nick change: __marc` -> _marc` [05:36] rwerken (rob@82-169-213-233.ip.telfort.nl) left ##slackware. [05:36] The-Croupier (~agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [05:36] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [05:36] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:37] jafnhar (~jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [05:38] I can't have diacritics in Konsole and I really need em. What do I do? [05:43] change your KDE locale ? [05:44] there's language and keyboard settings in the KDE control thingy [05:45] I have installed gtkpod. When I plug in my ipod, I get an error message saying wrong file system type. [05:46] The file manager does open up listing the directories. [05:46] kleanchap: your ipod might not be supported [05:47] heaumer, thnx. I will try something else. [05:48] brb [05:48] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC3001B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:54] adaptr: i do have 2 languages [05:54] in docs i do have diacritics, but not in the konsole [05:54] i get ??? [05:58] ah [05:59] check which font you're using [06:03] adaptr: wow, how did you get that? [06:03] won't work with any of the fonts [06:06] try a terminal emulator that supports unicode, maybe? [06:07] i dont know abotu konsole, but rxvt-unicode does [06:07] Action: The-Croupier Stabs Azeotrope with a especially gifted knife from various important people [06:07] Action: The-Croupier hides like a ninja ;) [06:08] I installed those 32-bit compat libs but i can't make anything work. GoogleEarth is installed correctly but won't start, wine apps won't start [06:08] something fishy [06:09] Azeotrope: what os,version,type of install? [06:10] Slacware 64 13.0, alienBOB's guide on 32bit compat libs [06:10] what are the error messages Azeotrope? [06:11] Azeotrope: maybe its not a good advice but i would suggest a full re-install ;) [06:11] that's the thing, i get none. i start google earth for example it appears in the taskbar and then quits [06:11] all with no messages [06:11] if you see that things are not going well for a while...re-installing is better than trying to fix something that takes you ages ;) [06:12] and, you're starting these from terminal, right? [06:12] i tried reinstalling GE. [06:12] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [06:12] botnet: no, I can't locate the binaries [06:13] you wont get error messages without runnning frmo terminal, usually [06:13] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [06:13] and, you shouldnt need to locate the binaries, as the install location should be in your %PATH [06:14] how did you install these applications? [06:14] like, make install, or slackbuild, or src2pkg? [06:15] botnet: i first installed 32bit compat libs as in alienBOB's guide then wine from sbopkg and GE from their website. [06:15] open a terminal and run '/usr/bin/winecfg' [06:15] Constantinegggfg (uaconstant@91.202.131.104) left irc: Quit: Constantinegggfg [06:15] but you should just be able to fo 'winecfg' [06:16] to do* [06:16] yes, i can do that for wine. for GE i can't. tried may combos google-earth, googlee, googleearth [06:17] i no longer have google earth nstalled on this laptop, and i dont remember where it installs to, but maybe /opt [06:17] Azeotrope: if you run kde ;) it has ge on the menus ;) [06:17] or xfce, and try menu refresh command, dont remember which one it is ;) [06:18] on the other hand locate google in terminal ;) [06:18] The-Croupier: i have kde, but no google-earht [06:18] locate anything in terminal, would tell you where things are ;) [06:18] which google will tell you where it is ;) as well [06:18] Constantinegggfg (uaconstant@91.202.131.104) joined ##slackware. [06:19] okay, on my other laptop, installing google earth from sbopkg, its installed as '/usr/bin/googleearth' [06:19] which google would just say "no google in %path" [06:20] correct [06:20] Emeau (~Emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-66-15.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:20] unless you had an application called 'google' [06:20] i have chrome [06:20] Emeau_ (~emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-66-15.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:20] Azeotrope: its always recommended to install anything via packages, preferrably a slackbuild [06:21] so you know what and where everything goes [06:21] chkrootkit or something else for checking ;) [06:22] the binary though should be called 'googleearth'...googles installer might put it in something like /opt or /usr/local/bin, im not sure, but 'slocate -u && locate googleearth' should return its location [06:23] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [06:24] botnet: no, no location [06:24] clear [06:24] sorry [06:25] merciful (~eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [06:25] the sbo binary goes in /opt [06:25] merciful (~eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:25] are you sure it installed? [06:25] yes [06:25] adaptr: mine went into /usr/bin [06:26] i have it in the menu [06:26] which DE/WM? [06:26] ? [06:26] kde, gnome, fluxbox, twm, awesome...etc [06:26] kde [06:27] i tryed installing it from sbopkg but it seems i have some deps missing?? what? libs32 are ok, otherwise it would tell me [06:29] well i cant immediately locate the file that holds the kmenu info [06:29] and im not on kde right now [06:29] can you right click the google earth entry and select properties and see where the launcher points to? [06:30] CcSsNET (~user@c-98-216-179-56.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:31] zes [06:31] yes [06:32] /home/azeotrope/google-earth/googleearth %f [06:32] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:32] put the full path into a terminal and tell us the errors [06:32] Segmentation fault [06:32] the binary is in your home folder? [06:32] that's all [06:32] seems so [06:33] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:33] hmm, segmentation faults are usually due to faults in the coding or compilation, or lack of memory [06:34] perhaps the file was corrupted in the download [06:34] botnet: i admire you seriously [06:34] lol, why? [06:34] Action: The-Croupier admires your patience [06:34] im on wireless leached from across the street, so web pages are reallllly slow, and irc is fast, so... :) [06:35] now that explains alot ;) [06:35] Action: The-Croupier rests his case [06:35] well, i am admirable, in general [06:37] well, i do have some more issues with slackware... 1. i want to make an AP with my PCI wifi card, 2. I want to install compiz etc [06:37] check this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r69bApwnzUk&feature=popular [06:37] i would be the guy in the blue, and Azeotrope the guy in the white by now ;) [06:38] and im not a bad guy :( [06:39] 1: i dunno, lol? 2: download src2pkg and all the source tarballs for compiz and use src2pkg on each tarball, there is an order you need to follow, but i dont remember, but googling should help with that [06:40] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-239.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [06:43] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.5.196) joined ##slackware. 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[07:02] Constantinegggfg (uaconstant@91.202.131.104) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:03] gyroscope (~master@81.214.150.153) joined ##slackware. [07:03] gyroscope (~master@81.214.150.153) left irc: Changing host [07:03] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [07:03] botnet (~void@75-92-207-253.war.clearwire-wmx.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [07:03] botnet (~void@c-24-19-69-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:03] Constantinegggfg (uaconstant@91.202.129.148) joined ##slackware. [07:04] so today, 16 years ago, linux 1.0 was released... [07:04] happy pi day [07:04] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:04] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [07:05] j0z (~j0z@200.139.123.166.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:05] j0z (~j0z@200.139.123.166.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [07:05] j0z (~j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [07:05] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [07:07] _slax0r_ (fire@slackware.x-shells.org) left irc: Quit: changing servers [07:07] _slax0r_ (fire@slackware.x-shells.org) joined ##slackware. [07:10] kleanchap (~subbarao@p5DC3001B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [07:10] Axius (~fd@92.85.216.203) joined ##slackware. [07:12] AlexElliott__ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:12] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [07:12] I have install VMware workstation 6.5.x for which I have license. The installation went fine but when I try to run it, I get an error message saying kernel files do not match. How do I get vmware ws to work? [07:14] SiegeX (219@unaffiliated/siegex) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [07:15] kleanchap: complain to vmware? how did you install? [07:18] Constantinegggfg (uaconstant@91.202.129.148) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:18] Nick change: mfreenet -> mikee [07:20] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-76-226.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:21] Sebo (opera@156.17.130.152) joined ##slackware. [07:21] brainvision (~brainvisi@host160-40-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:23] tooly (~theo@e178160063.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [07:24] Constantinegggfg (uaconstant@91.202.130.106) joined ##slackware. [07:24] Hi!! How can I change the resolution of tty console? [07:25] i need to check the batery lvl somehow in flux [07:27] Anyone here?? ...could tell me how can I change the screen resolution of tty console? [07:27] <_slax0r_> /etc/lilo.conf [07:29] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [07:29] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Quit: gyroscope [07:29] Constantinegggfg (uaconstant@91.202.130.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:32] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:32] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [07:33] _slax0r_: So that's in boot loader config ;] ...but I gues I'll need to reinstall lilo to get it work, won't I? [07:33] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-190-248.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [07:33] <_slax0r_> I guess so :) [07:33] <_slax0r_> I haven't used local TTY in ages, always SSHing to those machines [07:33] (01:30:07 PM) Sebo: Do you talk about the problem with kms and autochanging console resolution on boot? [07:35] No ...I just installed slack on VirtualPC and realized that using the resolution of my whole screen isn't a good idea ;] [07:35] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [07:36] oh, sorry. I had that problem and other slack users and decided that you talk about this ;] [07:36] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [07:36] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [07:37] It is displayed in the window which can't occupy the whole screen and now I need to scroll it :/ [07:38] how can i get list of loadable kernel modules? [07:41] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:43] valsiterb: modprobe -l [07:43] thanks [07:45] matsbt (~mats@1-1-9-17a.gkp.gbg.bostream.se) joined ##slackware. [07:46] hi [07:47] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-248-130.bur.connect.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:51] matsbt (~mats@1-1-9-17a.gkp.gbg.bostream.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:51] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [07:52] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:58] _slax0r_: I've changed display resolution in lilo.conf and reinstalled lilo: # lilo but after # reboot it launched previous resolution back and the conf returned to the previous state ;] [07:58] so nothing changed :/ [07:58] Axius (~fd@92.85.216.203) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:59] http://slackwiki.org/Dependency_Discovery - I don't understood the first bash script what really do [07:59] if I use it for som program it will print which dep I must install? [08:00] and if I use it how to indicate which program [08:01] no, this script will tell you whether there is a binary on your system that links to a library which is not available [08:02] it will ldd every file in your path and print eg. libfoo.so not found if a link is broken [08:02] you are then able to utilize $clue or $google to find the package that includes that library [08:05] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:06] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) joined ##slackware. [08:07] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:09] goarilla (~goarilla@52.180-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:10] Thanks, it's useful. I don't understand well bash, but I think that it's very important for dealing with linux [08:10] goarilla (~goarilla@101.161-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. 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[08:25] i have never do this [08:25] ok, as root: [08:25] modprobe acpi-cpufreq [08:25] (assuming you have an intel processor with cpufreq that is pentium-M or core 2 duo) [08:26] modprobe cpufreq-ondemand [08:26] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn2-212-50-134-151.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:26] hmm... i think, i need recompile my kernel [08:26] the ondemand governor changes your CPU's speed based on load. when the system load is high, the CPU frequency is high, and when the system load is low, the CPU speed is low [08:26] if you have slackware 13 you should not need to recompile your kernel [08:27] i will note this. [08:28] you do if you want to use powertop though [08:28] yes but i can tell you 99% of what powertop is going to recommend since i've used it a lot [08:31] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:32] laptop-mode tools is good too [08:33] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:33] i have the 2.6.33 kernel version [08:33] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:35] i need still recompile my kernel, because i forgot to install sound card and BT support [08:36] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:37] uh, you forgot to install sound card and BT support? wow [08:37] valsiterb, why not go copy the config from -current for 2.6.33? [08:38] i configure kernel myself [08:38] i can tell [08:38] 8-) [08:40] when i have compiled kernel for use with network boot... [08:44] hey...i just recently 'forgot' to compile my sound card's support in [08:44] well, i forgot i need to compile it as a module for it to work, rather, but still... [08:44] How can I change the tty console screen resolution? [08:45] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) joined ##slackware. [08:45] also, i probably "forgot" blue tooth since i have no BT devices, and unless it was magically enabled on its own... [08:45] Sebo: use a framebuffer driver, and set lilo to use it [08:47] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-239.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:49] kleanchap (~subbarao@p5DC3001B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:54] i've found a network interface with strange name "sit0" and very long HWaddr [08:59] how can i check battery status? [09:03] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: brb [09:06] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:10] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [09:12] v4nelle: greetings [09:12] :) [09:12] hallo greek man :p [09:17] The-Croupier (~agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:17] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:18] The-Croupier (~agapi@188.4.31.214.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:20] jd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:20] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:24] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:24] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-249.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:26] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-117-130.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:26] vhann (~vhann@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [09:29] v6CommO (~chris@pool-74-111-219-13.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:30] Nick change: mikee -> mfreenet [09:33] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC3001B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:36] InTel_GB (intel@95.43.5.196) left ##slackware. [09:39] Tusk (~Tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:40] can anyone suggest a good Color Laser Printer with Flatbed Scanner, please? [09:41] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E4423.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [09:42] How do I rip a CD and create an iso image? [09:42] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [09:43] kleanchap, use k3b [09:46] kleanchap, dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/home/user/some.iso [09:46] assuming sr0 is the cdrom device [09:46] CcSsNET, thnx [09:48] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:48] CcSsNET, i think k3b method is a bit more "clean" [09:49] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:51] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:55] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [09:55] guax. i think k3b method is a waste of my time. and certainly not more clean... [09:56] maybe ddrescue is more clean. but not k3b [09:57] ddrescue isn't really meant for that, would work but you might as well build a teleportation device to copy your cd [09:57] although if you elaborate on your use of "clean" we can figure it out. personally i like a clean copy. so ddrescue might be the sanest if a scratched cd is the question [09:58] CcSsNET, Thnx! That worked great! [09:58] np [09:59] personally i dont like burning from the command line though. just copying [10:00] mr_jett (~nds@bas1-hamilton01-2925008421.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [10:00] the only thing cli burning doesnt do better is data compilation stuff [10:01] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [10:01] mr_jett (nds@bas1-hamilton01-2925008421.dsl.bell.ca) left ##slackware. [10:01] ya, organizing files using cli is not exactly ideal hehe [10:01] but for an iso its decent [10:02] my head is going to explode :( [10:03] gyroscope (~master@81.214.150.153) joined ##slackware. [10:03] gyroscope (~master@81.214.150.153) left irc: Changing host [10:03] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [10:06] syntax_error (~sineror@host149-116-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:06] guax, dd is an extreamly usefull tool. if u need a CLI cheat sheet i have one i can upload to a pastebin. i got all kinds of tricks [10:07] hello [10:07] hi [10:07] guys I lack a lib: libnotify.so.1, where i can get it ? [10:08] syntax_error: -current? [10:08] the site I was used to is not anymore [10:08] sahk0, yes 13 [10:08] CcSsNET, please do [10:08] what does that mean? and 13.0 isnt current [10:08] ok 2 mins guax [10:09] CcSsNET, i am actualy aware of dd to make iso's, but i kind of think that k3b method make some optimizations on scratched cd's and stuff [10:10] syntax, you need to install libnotify [10:10] sahk0, well then it is 13, and was used to go a site where you search for lib name and gve u the most appropriate tgz to install [10:11] syntax_error: libnotify is on slackbuilds.org. use the script to install it from there [10:12] p lan to rewrite this guide guax i did this in i think 2007 [10:12] plan* [10:12] gaze what libnotifyrnlibnotify:rnThe desktop notifications framework consists of a specification and referencernimplementation (libnotify and notification-daemon). They are designed to allowrnapplications to display passive pop-up notifications that won't interruptrnwhat the user is doing. [10:13] ahh crap [10:13] wrong paste [10:13] gaze what libnotifyrnlibnotify:rnThe desktop notifications framework consists of a specification and referencernimplementation (libnotify and notification-daemon). They are designed to allowrnapplications to display passive pop-up notifications that won't interruptrnwhat the user is doing. [10:13] wtf!, 1 sec [10:13] ACK [10:13] pastebin.ca/1839417 [10:14] eh im switching irc client this ones acting funny [10:14] enjoy the guide all [10:14] syntax_error: libnotify was added to slackware-current in jan2010 - did you perhaps install a package from -current on your Slackware 13.0 which requires libnotify? [10:14] CcSsNET (~user@c-98-216-179-56.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: User disconnected [10:16] alienBOB, yes i did [10:16] syntax was did you install that needed it? some xfce stuff? [10:16] syntax_error, whyu not upgrade all system to -current? [10:17] alienBOB, but i just installed [10:17] guax, coz i had a slack 13 under the hand as i couldnot connect internet [10:18] guax, i wanted to install transmission to dl things i need [10:19] ktorrent rulz [10:19] imho [10:19] any framebuffer image viewer default available on slackware? [10:19] qbittorrent rules even more ;-) [10:20] guax: seejpeg [10:22] sahk0, thank you [10:23] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-72-95-67-208.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:23] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:23] alienBOB, i supose if you like it it should be available on sbo [10:23] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:23] Anyone else's clocks wrong while your TZ is properly set? [10:24] nope, things are fine here [10:26] CcSsNET (~user@c-98-216-179-56.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:26] hummmmmmm..... configure: error: Could not link against boost_system-mt ! [10:27] eh back again for now. irssi maybe more stable but its certainly less usefull then naim the client i usually use... [10:27] guax: no, if I like it it will end up in my own repository [10:27] Action: guax points to konversation [10:27] i dont use gui's for irc... [10:27] I just need some time to build clean packages for the 10 or so new SlackBuild scripts I have [10:27] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-190-248.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [10:28] mouse + irc = slow chatting [10:28] CathyInBlue, check this link: http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS6300294422.html [10:28] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:28] CcSsNET, all the common keyboard shortcuts are available and configurable [10:28] o hmm [10:28] i may look soon [10:28] and consistent copy and paste [10:28] :P [10:28] how can one chmod a folder and all its subfolders? [10:29] chmod -R [10:29] guax: thank you ;) [10:29] or man chmod =P [10:29] nah not using that, depends on to many things i dont use. [10:30] anybody knows if the deps on avidemux 2.4.4 are diffirent from avidemux 2.5.2? [10:31] randux (~nobody@unaffiliated/randux) joined ##slackware. [10:32] CcSsNET, you mean konversation? no deps that are not present on slackware default packages [10:32] of course you will need X [10:32] =P [10:32] guax i dont use slack, i just enjoy the conversations in here. [10:33] i use source mage [10:33] lulz [10:33] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:34] Skywise: Yay for 3 year old useless info. [10:34] My TZ is set properly. My clock is still wrong. [10:34] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [10:34] which package must i have to run :convert? i get this:./avidemux.SlackBuild: line 202: convert: command not found [10:34] v4nelle: imagemagick [10:34] v4nelle, imagemagick [10:34] thx guys [10:35] imagemagick is one of those amazing app suites that doesn't get enough credit [10:35] irssi wouldnt be all that bad if it would simply learn from naim [10:36] then it woudnt be irssi, it would be naim [10:37] not entirely. if it simply used the hotkeys correctly for ctrl-n [10:37] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:37] but irssi doesnt do it like naim does [10:37] and whats wrong with naim? [10:38] buggy [10:38] lots of bad coding [10:38] Anyone know why my TZ is set properly, while my `date` still displays wrong? [10:38] but the usability is amazing [10:38] CcSsNET, use ntpdate to sync it [10:38] CathyInBlue, * [10:38] No [10:39] fine, don't :> [10:39] lol [10:39] is it off by 5 hours or so? [10:39] one hour. [10:39] As if DST didn't happen. [10:39] it didnt, its all an ilussion of your disturbed mind [10:39] While displaying "EDT" as the TZ. [10:39] illusion* [10:40] shouldn't it be EST now? I never understood the difference [10:40] No. It WAS EST, yesterday. Today, it's EDT. [10:40] how can someone know so much and still not be able to set their clock [10:40] lol [10:40] CathyInBlue, have you tried letting ntpdate correct it? [10:41] Cathy, run timeconfig [10:41] I relied on software other people to build a working zoneinfo catalogue. Foolish me. [10:41] mancha: Did that. Just set it to another EST/EDT zone and it's still off. [10:41] it had to be someone else [10:42] thrice: No. [10:42] why don't you use it? that's the point of the software [10:42] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:42] what does "date +%Z" print? [10:43] The point of that software is to tether me inexorably to the network for something so straightforward as my computer's clock. [10:43] mancha: EDT [10:43] nader (~nader@91.98.94.163) joined ##slackware. [10:43] Cathy, ok, so the zone is right [10:43] now fix the time [10:43] what does "date" actually show, 9:43? [10:44] Sun Mar 14 11:45:31 BRT 2010 [10:44] The point of the zoneinfo is to set my clock and keep it in sync with timezone idiocy. [10:44] :) [10:44] thrice`: Yes. [10:44] hah [10:44] weird, I'm on EDT also, and my time adjust perfectly this morning upon resume [10:44] thrice`, you're obviously doing something wrong [10:45] Do I need to decouple my hwclock from my system clock and start using UTC for the HWclock? [10:45] :( [10:45] there something wrong thats not right =/ [10:46] If I just sudo date -s now, the hwclock gets reset when I shutdown. [10:46] setting a clock is hard... [10:46] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [10:46] randux (~nobody@unaffiliated/randux) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:46] Apparently, seeing as how date can't do it while relying on the zoneinfo db. [10:47] Axius (~hi@92.82.70.66) joined ##slackware. [10:47] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn2-212-50-134-151.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [10:47] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:47] hi [10:47] is autofs installed by default in slackware? [10:48] I don't believe I use any system named that. No. [10:48] sec0nd: yes [10:48] sahk0: where is the rc.autofs? [10:49] rc files should be in /etc/rc.d [10:49] slackware-current has a rc.autofs now. But 13.0 does not [10:50] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:51] alienBOB: what is the slackware-current version? [10:51] Version of autofs? [10:52] 5.0.5 [10:52] no of the slackware [10:52] Slackware-current is just that - it has no version [10:52] i though that the only available/current release was 13.0 [10:52] no [10:52] No you do not understand the nature of -current [10:52] :P [10:53] how do I upgrade to the current one? [10:53] oxiredo_ro (~dorin_ro@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [10:53] The most recent stable Slackware is 13.0 [10:53] and is it like a development version? [10:53] AlexElliott (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:53] And -current is a development release [10:53] how can I upgrade from 13 to -current? [10:53] |Slacker| (~Cris@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [10:53] And therefore, -current is not recommended if you are not intimately familiar with Slackware and Linux in general [10:54] development versions can get broken at any time [10:54] SkyNet_ONE (~Ederson@189-18-218-233.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:54] Things may break during development, in which case you are expected to deal with that and solve your issues (with help from the community) [10:54] i'm familar with it and I would be a nice challenge [10:54] AlexElliott__ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [10:55] go for it, but just don't do it on a system you depend on [10:55] sec0nd, you can change the mirror on slackpkg to get on current, then install-new, upgrade-alll [10:55] Skywise, unless you know what you are doing [10:55] I run -current on all but two systems - my server at home and my main desktop run stable versions [10:55] what about sbopkg? [10:55] guax, even then you can't predict what will stop working and what it will need to get going again [10:56] guax: also "slackpkg clean-system" to remove the packages that got removed from Slackware [10:56] alienBOB, never did that =P [10:56] and edit the blacklist.. list [10:56] sec0nd: sbopkg has nothing to do with Slackware itself [10:56] Skywise, i usually read the changelog and ask here before upgrade [10:57] i have the -current feed, so im aways aware of what crap can happen [10:57] guax sec0nd - or read CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT after a stable Slackware got released, to see what packages got removed or added [10:57] is there a way to add the alien slackbuilds to sbopkg? [10:57] guax, yeah, you just can't blindly go along and expect everything to just happen [10:57] SkyNet_ONE (~Ederson@189-18-218-233.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [10:57] Ivshti (~ivo@77.76.50.154) joined ##slackware. [10:58] I upgraded this Asus eeepc 1000h to -current on friday, and it took me until this morning to get the wireless working properly again... so there are challenges yes [10:58] :D [10:58] until last month i was using a slackware 10.2 upgrade trough -current (that was something between 12.2 and 13.0) [10:58] sounds like fun [10:58] sec0nd: no, my SlackBuilds are incompatible with sbopkg [10:58] ok [10:58] guax: did it work? [10:59] lovely [10:59] guax: guess you had to update everything in /etc [10:59] tooly (~theo@e178160063.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [10:59] I directly replace all the config files with the *new ones except slapt-getrc, shadow, passwd and group [10:59] i only use a distro as a starting point and then i build and install my own packages and a custom kernel [10:59] its actually on my other partition, i just made a new install because i was installing some stuff with make install and they havnt make uninstall [11:00] wget -m ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/ would mirror the slackware-current right? [11:00] i used to compile my kernels, just got lazy and use the default generic on slackware (with initrd for reiserfs) [11:00] ? [11:00] -.- LAG [11:00] sec0nd, rsync is best for that task [11:00] but that command will do it yes [11:01] but it would get everything everytime [11:01] guax: I tried rsync and ftp before and couldn't get it to work [11:01] i'll try it again [11:01] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:01] yeah, how did rsync fail? [11:01] rsync -aCP ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/ slackware-current/ [11:01] thanks [11:01] change ftp:// to http:// or rsync:// if the server support it [11:01] Skywise: it failed saying something about no ssh [11:02] it was a while ago so I don't really remember [11:02] oh ok [11:02] thats easy [11:02] just an option [11:02] it defaults to using ssh for the connection [11:02] guax@trantor:/mnt/data/slackware$ ls | slackware-13.0 slackware-current [11:02] full mirrors with sources :) [11:03] ssh: Could not resolve hostname ftp: Name or service not known [11:03] yeah I got that [11:03] *just got that again [11:03] change ftp:// to http:// or rsync:// if the server support it [11:04] ok, paste your command [11:04] yeah [11:04] or you can just use the hostnmae [11:04] and path instead of a url [11:04] rsync -aCP ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/slackware-current/ [11:05] * -avCP [11:05] + . at the end for current dir [11:05] Nick change: mfreenet -> mikee [11:05] try changing ftp: to rsync: [11:06] Okay... lovely... hwclock is now completely ignoring --utc on its commandline when used. [11:06] @ERROR: Unknown module 'pub' [11:06] sec0nd, rsync -aCP rsync://carroll.cac.psu.edu/slackware/slackware-current/ slackware-current/ [11:06] thats what you should run [11:08] still fails, No such file or directory [11:08] CathyInBlue, try simply using the date command instead and remove hwclock from your startup. [11:08] oh wrong url [11:09] I really can't remove the hwclock from my start up, because that's where the system clock gets its setting at boot time in rc.0. [11:09] why are you removind the space between rsync://carroll.cac.psu.edu/slackware/slackware-current/ and slackware-current/ [11:09] removing* [11:09] CcSsNET, you were foolish to even try [11:09] oh I was trying to place it in the . (current) directory. didn't notice it [11:10] if you do that you will trash up your ., you need to specify the full name [11:10] it will place everything in slackware-current on your current direcotyr [11:10] directory [11:10] I'm in the slackware directory I want it in [11:10] if you use full pathnames things won't end up in unexpected places [11:11] especially if you want to reuse the command line and you're somewhere else [11:11] cool thanks its working [11:11] rsync -avCP rsync://carroll.cac.psu.edu/slackware/slackware-current/ slackware-current/ [11:11] thanks guax [11:11] skywise what did i try? [11:11] to help her [11:11] 5 bucks [11:13] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) joined ##slackware. [11:13] ehh ok.. anyway, once the system clock in bios is set once it tends to stay that way cathy. unless ur battery is bad. unlikely. and i personally removed hwclock from my startup do to it anoying the hell out of me trying to set my date/time [11:14] I'm curious... how do you set the system clock (in the kernel) from the BIOS clock if NOT with the hwclock tool. [11:15] skywise maybe you where right :-/. cathy not sure i can awnser that. [11:15] hwclock -s, probably. [11:15] CcSsNET, just scroll back and you'll see [11:15] yea i was installing a game wasnt watching irc the entire time [11:15] Which should be in a startup script anyhow. [11:16] anyone in the mood for some nexuiz? [11:16] gm152: Not sure, but I think you are using hwclock in that invocation of hwclock. Might be wrong, though. [11:17] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:17] CathyInBlue: I haven't seen what the issue really is though. [11:17] jd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [11:17] jd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Changing host [11:17] jd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [11:17] CLearly. [11:18] you're all inadequate [11:19] will clean-system in sbopkg remove all of the packages I have installed using slackbuilds etc? [11:20] can you run it in test mode to see what it would do? [11:20] will do later. [11:22] Axius (~hi@92.82.70.66) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:22] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [11:22] eclectist (~weechat@h105.248.17.98.static.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [11:23] eclectist (weechat@h105.248.17.98.static.ip.windstream.net) left ##slackware. [11:23] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [11:24] sec0nd: slackpkg will show an overview of packages it wants to remove. You can un-check all that you want to keep [11:25] Okay, to recap, the zoneinfo database isn't guaranteed to seamlessly adjust for DST. hwclock doesn't give a shit about --utc. And no one's responsible for fixing either of those systems. Check. Check. And check. Lovely. [11:25] right again [11:26] Nick change: CodeBlock` -> CodeBlock [11:26] how can i check battery status? :-F [11:26] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.20.167) joined ##slackware. [11:28] InTel_GB (intel@95.43.20.167) left ##slackware. [11:28] The-Croupier (~agapi@188.4.31.214.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:28] nvm, it got it! [11:29] *i [11:31] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-72-95-67-208.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Be excellent to each other. [11:33] that has to be the most obnoxious person looking for help i've ever come across [11:35] dtanner (~dtanner@24.174.4.236) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [11:35] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.95.181) joined ##slackware. [11:36] dtanner (~dtanner@24.174.4.236) joined ##slackware. [11:36] i can't launch mysql [11:37] oh my; smonky crashed [11:37] it returns error 2002 [11:37] cant load gconf.so [11:37] oh, did you look that up [11:38] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:38] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:43] make sure your client and server are using the same location for their socket [11:43] eclectist (~weechat@h105.248.17.98.static.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [11:43] nader (nader@91.98.94.163) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:44] so no one cares about crashes? [11:44] valsiterb (valsiterb@130.207.broadband7.iol.cz) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:44] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:45] you know why it can't load that file? [11:45] to me? [11:45] yeah [11:45] i havent chked the why's and wherefores yet [11:45] it's a new thingy tho and never hapd before [11:46] prolly best to get the basics out of the way first [11:46] and i havent dont a dist update yet [11:46] i know [11:46] dont/done [11:46] or lately [11:46] slack's been peachy lately [11:47] Slackware doesnt include gconf [11:47] by the way, any thoughts on including dependency resolution in sbopkg? [11:47] Ivshti: /j #sbopkg [11:47] ok [11:48] this is strangeness then [11:48] how did you ibstall smonky? [11:49] i ibstaled it ib uber/src [11:49] :) [11:49] heh [11:49] uber/src [11:49] damn, uber/srb [11:49] lol [11:50] i think flashgot was updated on last restart but that shouldnt effect the main -bin [11:50] and ldd reports a boat load of mising .so's [11:51] 14 missing [11:51] |Slacker| (~Cris@189.123.195.252) left irc: Quit: Saindo [11:51] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.20.167) joined ##slackware. [11:52] I don't understand a thing of what you say [11:52] ok [11:52] i say that about you once in a while but in my head ^ [11:52] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:52] ;) [11:52] well, sm started. [11:52] CcSsNET: only once in a while? ;-) [11:52] hehe [11:53] y'all arent tryin hard enuf if it's only once in a while [11:53] i think that upgrade also included upgrades to other packages [11:53] Action: CcSsNET loads game bloodfrontier [11:53] Action: guax think SunTzu its a lolcat [11:53] anyone here play games? [11:53] you prolly need to update smonky [11:53] s/its/is/g [11:54] i don't know of any games that i'd like in linux [11:54] i like racing games and tux racer just don't cut it [11:55] torcs maybe? [11:55] http://torcs.sourceforge.net/ [11:55] one day maybe [11:55] checkout supergamer... 8GB linux distro filled with loads of linux games [11:55] http://supergamer.org/ [11:55] oxiredo_ro (~dorin_ro@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:56] it doesn't have multiplayer [11:56] another racing game http://vdrift.net/ [11:57] Slack-starter (~5b63c55b@gateway/web/freenode/x-inhxayuyrbburttx) joined ##slackware. [11:57] guax i'm-a lulwat? [11:57] I want to downlod slackware plz send me best link to download it [11:57] google/com [11:57] oops [11:57] can has confesshum? [11:58] you're supposed to say "i iz wha?" [11:58] main slackware site, maybe? [11:58] http://google.com/ie?q=download+linux+iso [11:58] oh [11:58] scuseme [11:58] i'mz-a lolwut? [11:58] Action: guax are sure now [11:58] http://www.slackware.com/getslack [11:58] just heard a great old obscure ST:TOS ref to "cloud city" [11:59] talso (~talso@S010600a0b14743f5.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [11:59] on a sitcom [11:59] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [11:59] eclectist (weechat@h105.248.17.98.static.ip.windstream.net) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.2.5"). [12:00] eclectist (~weechat@h105.248.17.98.static.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [12:00] Slack-starter: Download from mirror in your country [12:00] or someplace faster [12:01] 1Gb pipes are nice [12:02] there's a town near me in the running to be a google gigaPipe-area [12:02] Slack-starter (~5b63c55b@gateway/web/freenode/x-inhxayuyrbburttx) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:02] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:02] Google Island. [12:03] gIsland? :-) [12:03] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:05] wonder how many towns they'll elect. we're running for it too [12:05] AlexElliott (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [12:08] eclectist (~weechat@h105.248.17.98.static.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.2.5 [12:09] Guest10717 (~riemann@41.104.113.81) joined ##slackware. [12:09] Guest10717 (riemann@41.104.113.81) left ##slackware. [12:10] Emeau (~Emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-66-15.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:10] eclectist1 (~weechat@h105.248.17.98.static.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [12:10] eclectist1 (~weechat@h105.248.17.98.static.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:11] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:15] InTel_GB (intel@95.43.20.167) left ##slackware. [12:17] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [12:17] Hello. [12:18] hi [12:20] How are you Cann0n? [12:20] brbrbr (~basiley@89.208.116.17) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:23] i'm fine. a bit on the mopey side today [12:24] :( [12:24] Is it the rain? [12:24] valsiterb (~valsiterb@130.207.broadband7.iol.cz) joined ##slackware. [12:24] no, it was hot yesterday and cold today [12:24] well not hot, but warm [12:25] i can't launch mysql :( [12:25] whats is say? [12:25] Emeau (~Emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-66-15.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:26] Blue-Slacker (~5b63c55b@gateway/web/freenode/x-jvpujwqlwbyzstel) joined ##slackware. [12:27] brainvision: hi man are you there [12:27] can anyone help me with this issue? [12:27] valsiterb: what does it say when you try to run it? [12:27] error 2002 [12:28] thats it? [12:28] Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) [12:28] a_small_dog (~189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-kprquphyergalmet) joined ##slackware. [12:28] valsiterb: what makes you think you should be able to connect? [12:28] is your mysql server running? [12:29] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:29] +i)] [4:freenode/##slackware(+Pcfjnt #overflow 3:3)] [Lag: 1. [Act: 1,2] [12:29] [##slackware] [12:29] wtf [12:29] no [12:29] ps aux | grep mysql [12:29] i cant middle click today [12:29] http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/servers/32162-mysql-error-2002-a.html [12:30] valsiterb: did you read /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld ? [12:30] valsiterb: mysql_install_db ; chown mysql:mysql /var/lib/mysql/ -R; /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld restart [12:30] also cp /etc/my-huge.cnf /etc/my.cnf or such [12:30] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.95.181) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:31] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:31] valsiterb: if it's not running, how do you expect to connect to it? :) [12:31] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2420689/surprise-for-a-programmer [12:32] crap wrong channel [12:32] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [12:32] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [12:33] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [12:34] /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld is missing [12:36] when i spell this, bash returns "Access denied" [12:36] you must chmod it +x [12:37] later, you may want to look into making a group "mysql" and adding the proper files to that group, and include yourself. this will make it a tad bit safer than running it in su all the time [12:38] the group already exists [12:38] nohup: stderr redirecting to stdout [12:39] i didn't know. i don't screw with mysql. i'm only suggesting that out of general linux knowledge "to advoid running everything ins root" [12:39] yea great advice ^ [12:39] s/ins/in [12:40] where are all mysql databases as default? [12:40] valsiterb: you should read the proper documents [12:40] no....... [12:40] most profesionals make a new user for each service they plan to run. some go as extream as to chroot it as well so it is forced out of the file system [12:40] yeah, like dialout [12:41] brbrbr (~basiley@89.208.116.17) joined ##slackware. [12:41] valsiterb: if you took 10 minutes to look through the mysql documents, or maybe even searcrhed a forum, you'd probably get better results as well as learn a few things :) [12:42] personally i would rather use sqlite3 then mysql based on who owns mysql and who knows what they plan to do with it [12:42] here it's sometimes faster and i don't have a much of time [12:42] valsiterb: /var/lib/mysql. you should also read /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld for instructions [12:42] valsiterb: google is much faster... trust me. [12:43] or trust google? hehe [12:43] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] thanks for your help [12:43] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:44] documents > google > irc [12:44] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: Bye [12:45] google < * [12:45] though, irc does provide one-on-one help [12:45] which can be good when you refuse to man things, etc [12:47] Prefect (~Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:48] Wiseguy (wiseguy@default-ip-gblx.shellfusion.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:48] Cann0n: people who refuse to man up deserve to be booted and ridiculed on IRC [12:49] adaptr: agreed. people put so much time writing up the documents for programs [12:50] it's there for a reason [12:50] even if they didn't - th emanual is where the facts are, there is no excuse for not reading them [12:50] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [12:50] yeah [12:51] Emeau (~Emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-66-15.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:52] Prefect (~Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [12:53] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-3-64.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:53] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-189-016.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:53] others time on IRC is not less valuable than ones own: RTFM [12:54] Action: jkwood offers up http://sweet.nodns4.us [12:55] ooh nice [12:55] Action: trhodes wondered when that would come up :) [12:55] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-189-016.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] lol [12:56] how do i open a terminal? [12:56] trhodes, yet another update to the kernel-package.SlackBuild [12:56] better doinst.sh [12:57] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-14.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:57] wertik_rus (~wertik@89-178-3-64.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:58] trhodes, and you must make sure that the corresponding source exists or the will be problems... [12:58] marra_ (marra@fly.srk.fer.hr) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:58] ok [12:59] any application that needs kernel source will look for it [12:59] a_small_dog_ (~189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-pgkuxqutkpckvrxn) joined ##slackware. [13:00] a_small_dog (~189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-kprquphyergalmet) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:00] I am trying to use gtkpod to upload some music and I am getting an error message. When I typed in groups, I got the following - audio video cdrom plugdev netdev users Are there any other groups I need to be a part of? [13:00] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Quit: Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you. [13:01] mr-S^b43 (~sven@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:01] What error message? [13:01] what Ipod are you using? [13:01] dive (~diverse@cpc2-craw1-0-0-cust1275.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:01] trhodes, good morning [13:01] make sure it's not a touch [13:01] Nano [13:01] what error? [13:01] hey ferdna [13:01] As soon as I plug in it says mounting error. [13:02] The file manager does open up the ipod directory. [13:02] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [13:02] what?! [13:02] trhodes, i am going to start playing with the server again... [13:02] you mean the pictures directory [13:02] see if i can automatically start those two processes [13:02] it doesn't really have a directory, it's just a pictures directory [13:03] the gphoto protocol [13:03] are you sure you set the model right? [13:03] dive (~diverse@cpc2-craw1-0-0-cust1275.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:03] try running gtkpod in the console and see what error it does give on ipod pluging [13:03] yeah, you can't just copy pictures over the an ipod like a thumb drive [13:04] Apple encrypted everything after the 1st gen Nano [13:04] so maybe libgpod doesn't support the new nanos and touch [13:04] touch is not supported simply because of the protocol [13:04] I think vcards and text files are tho only ones that you can just copy like that [13:04] and also, the encryption of the library [13:04] however, I almost solved it [13:04] Nano 5th gen is supported as far as i know [13:04] dive (~diverse@cpc2-craw1-0-0-cust1275.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:05] installed ifuse and the latest svn build of libgpod, I also updated gvfs [13:05] basically, it reads the library, but it can't sync it [13:05] because it will break it [13:05] the new encrypted library sucks [13:05] permission error sounds like [13:05] I hate apple [13:05] In gtkpod when I create a playlist and add a folder, all the files give the same error message, "Error opening /mnt/ipod/..../libgpod1234.mp3 for writing(Permission denied" [13:05] run it as root [13:05] as for mine case, it's not permission error [13:06] in the official statement in the ifuse page, it says that due to the encryption, libgpod can't sync with the new format [13:06] it can only read it [13:06] it's not encryption but.. a new format [13:06] and it kind of sucks [13:06] all of the songs are renamed to some kind of cryptic names [13:06] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:06] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [13:06] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:06] ferdna: i've only read a little of the icecast / ices documentation, I hope you don't need much help there :) [13:06] i had little issues getting mine to work. i really wanted to use Exaile's plugin, but it doesn't work because who every programed it did a piss ass job [13:07] Rhythmbox! [13:07] Nick change: oobe -> `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` [13:07] gtkpod works good though [13:07] I switched to rhythmbox because of that [13:07] trhodes, icecast / ices working perfectly... however i can't make it start [13:07] i never liked rhythmbox [13:07] but my library is in rhythmbox so... [13:07] why? [13:07] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:07] I was an Amarok fan until they killed it with version 2 [13:07] I was, too [13:07] lol [13:07] and switched to exile [13:07] Nick change: `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` -> oobe [13:07] *exaile [13:08] now I'm switching to rhythmbox [13:08] i havent bothered to even look at version 2 from all the talk i hear about it XD [13:08] i have 20+ gigs of music. most don't have albums... so i don't see a point in being forced to search by allbum [13:08] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [13:08] Cann0n, How did you install gtkpod? What groups do you have for your user account? [13:08] yes, me too, but mine has very well organized tags [13:08] CcSsNET: it's shitty. it's got less options than xmms now [13:08] ferdna: i can't help but wonder if icecast refuses to run as root or something; also is it online and its deps met at that point in boot ? [13:08] lol ^ [13:08] kleanchap: just run gtkpod as root [13:08] i don't gotta run mine as root [13:09] interesting [13:09] guys do u know if there is a way to have a depedency tree for slackware package ? [13:09] trhodes, aaaahhhh!.... hmmm... it runs as root... but there is a switch where it switches to a non privileged user [13:09] you probably got an older ipod? [13:09] trhodes, would this be an issue? [13:09] syntax_error: yeah, depfinder [13:09] im in plugdev group [13:10] gtkpod via slackbuild [13:10] yeah, im using a 2nd gen [13:10] Ivshti, ooh thx [13:10] syntax_error: http://www.salixos.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_create_a_local_slackware_repository_with_dependency_support [13:10] Ivshti: you use Salix? [13:11] ferdna: i'm not sure, to be honest, but yes i think it is relevant [13:11] nope [13:11] I use my own distro [13:11] http://linvo.org [13:12] i use Salix [13:12] it's a stripped down slackware, with stuff like networkmanager, GNOME (for now, custom build, but in the next version it will be a modified GSB) [13:12] initng (an alternative init) [13:12] bleh... [13:12] lol :D [13:12] gnome + NM = the devil [13:12] Evilaz (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:12] sure, most of the slackware users hate this stuff [13:12] I also have PAM [13:12] burn me now [13:12] lol [13:13] and I have pulseaudio [13:13] I expect to get banned now [13:13] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:13] lol :P [13:13] joking, ofc [13:13] but it's usually this way in the slackware channels [13:14] xchg (~mackopu@kickban.eu) joined ##slackware. [13:14] yeah, i mentioned Salix and Slackware in the same sentence and got ripped a new one [13:14] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:15] anyway, in my eyes, nm is more KISS than the slackware system [13:15] though, Salix is slackware with different package set up and defaults with init 4, gdm and splashy [13:15] Blue-Slacker (~5b63c55b@gateway/web/freenode/x-jvpujwqlwbyzstel) left irc: Quit: Page closed [13:15] you know, it may be a complex program, but what you do is just putting a _VANILLA_ package of networkmanager [13:15] no need to maintain configs and anything [13:15] Ivshti: wtf is a Slackware system? [13:15] more vanilla - more kiss for the developers [13:15] thats about the only difference. i can install all the packages from my slack 13 dvd and boot in init 3, no one would know the difference [13:15] the slackware way of doing things [13:16] rc.inet21 [13:16] *inet1 [13:16] and rc.inet.conf or however it was called [13:16] that's the slackware way of starting the net [13:16] i use dial up [13:16] in my eyes, NM is more KISS because you just put a vanilla package, and don't have to maintain scripts and stuff [13:16] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:16] wvdial ftw [13:17] Nick change: a_small_dog_ -> a_small_dog [13:17] if slackware uses NM, they don't have to maintain their rc.inet1 script, [13:17] so it's less work for them [13:18] networkmanager is completely broken, and especially the latest 0.8 release [13:18] i had nothing but issues with it [13:18] me too [13:18] previous version were better, at least they worked [13:18] lets add complexity over something simple! [13:18] Nick change: oobe -> `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` [13:18] but I'm a bit concerned about 0.8 [13:18] because I haven't tested it but I compiled it for the new release of my distribution because it doesn't use HAL [13:18] ferdna: to save some boot time, you can telinit 1 and then 3 (or 4, whatever you use) [13:18] Nick change: `0OoOoO0OoOoO0` -> oobe [13:18] and I'm deprecating HAL in the new version [13:19] MrXaxas (~JT@c-67-161-220-81.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] managing a distro is too much work [13:19] trhodes, boot time is not an issue [13:19] yet [13:19] Ivshti, well if i want to upgrade pango can i do it without having the need to rebuild all the package that depends on him ? [13:20] syntax_error: not quite, only if it needs a newer version [13:20] just compile it and it gives an error that some package isn't up-to-date, update it to the version that it requires [13:20] new pango might require new glib2, I guess [13:21] is there a way to know all package that depends on pango for example ? [13:21] dive (~diverse@cpc2-craw1-0-0-cust1275.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you. [13:21] yes [13:21] dive (~diverse@cpc2-craw1-0-0-cust1275.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:21] I think there is a file that specifies the build dependencies [13:21] or it's hardcoded into ./configure [13:21] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [13:21] not sure about it [13:22] if you want to update pango and those stuff [13:22] it's best to update the whole chain [13:22] glib2, gtk+2, pango, cairo [13:22] no, not cairo [13:23] yes also cairo coz id depends of pango very close [13:23] but there might not be a problem [13:23] pango will require a glib2 update [13:23] that's what I'm sure of [13:23] well i tried it on my previous slack install and xfce don't start anymore [13:24] well, you should precompile xfce [13:24] if you want to precompile stuff I suggest you use gentoo or arch [13:24] you know what I've done [13:24] what do u mean with precompile ? [13:24] a simple wrapper script that creates a pacman-compatible package information tree out of /var/log/packages [13:24] that means I use pacman/arch's makepkg to build stuff with arch's PKGBUILD [13:25] in that way I made a package of xorg-server that uses udev instead of hal for hotplugging [13:25] and I built networkmanager 0.88 [13:25] *0.8 [13:25] well, [13:25] download the xfce directory from the slackware source tree/xap/xfce [13:25] and then run the slackbuild [13:25] you know what [13:26] there are a lot of guides for updating to slackware-current [13:26] that's what should you do, it has up-to-date glib2 and pango and stuff [13:26] dive (~diverse@cpc2-craw1-0-0-cust1275.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:26] including xfce [13:26] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [13:27] well i did a better thing, i had a free partition and i installed a fresh install much more faster [13:27] lol [13:27] lol [13:27] but i will have a look to thoose things you point me [13:27] now just move your configs over ;) [13:27] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [13:28] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:28] just to lean some more things [13:29] CcSsNET, already done with a simple script even f there are few files, fstab, samba.conf, reslv.conf,, xorg.conf [13:29] not that much [13:29] you still use xorg.conf? :( [13:30] who doesnt? [13:30] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.2) joined ##slackware. [13:30] I don't [13:30] ... [13:30] what do u use ? [13:30] udev? [13:30] udev hotpluging works great, believe me [13:30] ahh [13:30] but it requires a new udev [13:30] > 146 [13:30] slackware-current has 151 [13:30] yea ive seen it, this system had udev behaving that way. i just called it magic. id rather have a xorg.conf though [13:31] MrXaxas (~JT@c-67-161-220-81.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:31] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.20.167) joined ##slackware. [13:31] i will look at it deeply when i will upgrade my gentoo box, more than a year i did not start it [13:32] o wow hhehe [13:32] I bet i will going mad [13:32] with depedency cycle [13:32] you will run into a upgrade problem with udev then ^ [13:32] i do from source also [13:33] i forget specifics but it was definately making me crazy till i figured out udev caused it hehe [13:33] yes i know, that s why i don t use gentoo so much can spent too much time on that kind of thinggs [13:33] yes i know, that s why i don t use gentoo so much can t spent too much time on that kind of thinggs [13:34] ya [13:34] Emeau (~emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-66-15.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:34] it s a great distro but time consuming to maintain [13:34] slackware? [13:34] no gentoo [13:34] oh. yeah... [13:34] i dont use gentoo personally cant stand it. source mage i use. but lunar is also better then gentoo. in my opinion [13:35] slackware i llike it coz you don t have a soft you just ./coonfigure make make install [13:35] ohh stop that [13:35] stop with ./configure make make install [13:35] syntax_error: NO! [13:35] heheh [13:35] there is src2pkg [13:35] there is SBo [13:35] slackbuilds are the way to go [13:35] yes [13:35] no what ? [13:35] there is slacky.eu [13:35] ew [13:35] It's slacky.ewwwwwww :P [13:36] I like to compile [13:36] hi! How can I list which port is binded to which process? [13:36] doing it the "generic" way will only make upgrading and removing harder in the future [13:36] not to mention can scatter files all over [13:36] syntax_error: you are still compiling with slackbuilds [13:36] in gentoo it was a mess to do, u need to write ebuild to make a clean install [13:36] www.slackbuilds.org [13:36] Cann0n, I meant the old way [13:36] Sebo: man netstat [13:37] thx [13:37] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [13:37] Cann0n, slackbuild take depedency into account ? [13:37] no [13:37] ok that s good then [13:38] slackbuilds are scripts that configure and complie source into packages [13:38] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Quit: gyroscope [13:38] FOR slackware [13:38] Cann0n, well i do the same thing with makepkg [13:39] or checkinstall [13:39] and if you're not even in the mood for building, there's slackpkg and sbopkg [13:39] syntax_error: if you aren't willing to take any help, leave. [13:39] sourcemage or lunar much much <3 [13:39] its basically the same, jus a bit automated with makepkg or checkinstall [13:39] and the script does use makepkg [13:40] Cann0n, no i was arguing what slackbuild have to offer compared to this other way [13:40] theres so many methods of doing the same thing in linux :D [13:40] kyle_l5l (~kyle@cpe-67-244-155-168.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:41] syntax_error: generally a slackbuild is tailor made for a specific piece of software. makepkg, src2pkg, etc. are ok for a generic way of makinga package, but certainly cannot account for the many varying edge cases. Each piece of software has its own idiosyncrasies. [13:41] I dnk slackbuild i had a slack 10 running for years without the need of upgrading it, u know i m a bit late lol [13:41] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) joined ##slackware. [13:41] lets see... ./configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib/64 --syscondir=/etc [13:41] you didn't even do security updates on your box? [13:42] are sourcemage and lunar still supported? [13:42] lol? [13:42] I only use it for internet surfing . torrent download, and router [13:42] syntax_error: i've been using slackware since late 1999. i did it "./configure && make && make install" for 8 of those years [13:42] try there irc channels. there here on freenode. [13:42] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [13:43] never expected this [13:43] there isn't much noise around those distros so... [13:43] far superior to gentoo in my opinion. both [13:43] slackbuilds are MUCH nicer than doing it that way. unless you are letting the cflags, forget it [13:43] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-421908.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:44] a clean system is a happen system [13:44] yes, slackbuilds rule [13:44] ivshti lunar is working on a beta2 iso right now. im helping test it for bugs as we speak [13:44] Cann0n, ok i ll try but U must understand me I m afraid of script since the trauma caused by gentoo lol [13:44] but if you want to compile a lot of stuff - get gentoo [13:44] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424744.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:44] i cant beleive people say use gentoo. lol [13:44] anyway, ill stop there [13:45] syntax_error: slackware isn't gentoo. slackbuilds are made for compiling packages from source is slackware. theres not much that can go wrong [13:45] yes [13:45] I agree [13:45] NO i don t want to compile a lot of things just to appear a geek i need time to make work done [13:45] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Client Quit [13:45] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [13:45] syntax_error: www.slackbuilds.org [13:45] well, gentoo isn't about compiling things you don't need to compile [13:45] Cann0n, ok i m looking [13:45] the interesting thing about it is that you can install some experimental projects :) [13:45] without doing anything very hard [13:46] i STRONGLY suggest you start using them. it will keep things organized. i'm only trying to help you. this is from personal experience. [13:46] trhodes, should i use runas command instead of the su command? [13:46] now, i don't dare to compile anything without a slackbuild, unless its a kernel of course [13:47] Ivshti, well u compile a lot anyway when u modify a flag to get a feature to work on some package next time u do an emerge -NuD u can bet that you will have 200+ package to recompile [13:47] I love the idea about a bleeding-edje distribution with a lot of packages available there, but I prefer using a not bleeding-edge distribution for a desktop and not touch it [13:47] i like keeping some things up to date, but it's not important [13:47] bb all convo is boring now [13:47] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:48] i'm setting up my dep supported repo for slack [13:48] Gentoo and the like are great to ppl interest in linux how it works deeply, but that s not my main interest, exactly u get my point Ivshti [13:48] BLAH [13:48] woot! [13:49] syntax_error: that's more like LFS [13:49] i tried gentoo. first 30 seconds got be pissed off [13:49] gentoo is more for people who want to use bleeding edje experimental stuff [13:49] lol [13:49] but that also works in ubuntu for that matter [13:49] a_small_dog: are you using Gentoo too? [13:49] bye, I'll have a rest now [13:49] ferdna: su works [13:49] no [13:49] why would i use gentoo [13:49] trhodes, i can't get it to work!!!! [13:49] wtf are you doing here then [13:49] yes but I prefer slack or deb [13:49] i'm just lazy. ever try to install hugin and all it's deps and their deps? [13:50] ferdna *sudo [13:50] and those dops dops [13:50] how bout die [13:50] a_small_dog: it was supposed to be a joke [13:50] deb because many commercila software work out of the box on it [13:51] and they give support [13:51] in theory [13:51] slike what kind of software? [13:51] if they constantly update their builds for every single binary distro out there [13:51] trhodes, how do i know if my command is running at boot time? [13:51] dmesg? [13:51] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:51] ohh, actually I'm still here [13:51] I never tried gentoo [13:51] Houdini or Acad3d [13:51] i love expecting people to compile binaries that will work specifically for my system! [13:51] no, it should be right there at the console [13:51] but I see the build scripts in it's repositories [13:51] and I always used them on slackware [13:52] (rewriting them of cource) [13:52] shift + pgup to see more before you change tty's to see more [13:52] it always provides ebuilds for even the least popular projects and everything is just awesomely up-to-date [13:52] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:52] I love that thing [13:52] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [13:53] trhodes, see end of file... http://www.otheos.com/articles/icecast2_mp3.htm [13:53] even ubuntu is better than gentoo [13:53] ouch [13:53] as CcSsNET said even distros maintained by 2-3 people are better than gentoo [13:53] and they are source based too! [13:53] I agree, but they are not better for experimenting [13:53] Ivshti, yes but portage is cumbersome ad that s why it works but it is cumbersome [13:54] sahk0: lol [13:54] arch, gentoo and ubuntu are much better for experimenting and checking out new stuff [13:54] Fedora too [13:54] but I don't see why people are bashing at ubuntu so hard [13:54] yes, and fedora [13:54] Action: Cann0n HATES SELinux [13:54] Action: Ivshti too [13:54] fedora would have been great if it didnt have that shit tangled up into it. [13:54] but it's not so bad [13:54] I love WINDOWS [13:54] lol [13:54] people bash ubuntu because it is destroying linux [13:55] I also hate that they separate the packages in a normal one and -dev [13:55] ferdna: man sudo :) [13:55] nope, I think it's helping linux actually, they always implement new and nice stuff [13:55] ye, but thanks to ubuntu many people dared to try linux [13:55] no, they tried ubuntu [13:55] so, i dont see what people have against [13:55] they dont know shit about linux [13:55] however, ubuntu itself it's a bit screwed up [13:55] I just hate some stuff [13:55] ubuntu attracts noobs tot he linux world. they have ubuntu set up in such a way, anything terminal based is avoided, hence users that don't know CLI wont be able to fix their own problems [13:55] some poeple just wanna use the system not know it [13:55] ferdna: sudo -u icecast [13:56] hate what versions they choose, they always add unstable stuff [13:56] not everyone wants to study computers [13:56] Cann0n: bingo for one [13:56] self help in #ubuntu is holding your mouse over options and waiting for the tool tips [13:56] Well I installed to my wife ubunto then archlinux then slackware [13:56] and I hate how they take one source package and split it into 20000 binary [13:56] trhodes, ok let me try [13:56] blind leading the blind [13:56] to the more simple [13:56] always [13:56] yep [13:56] it's lots easier to learn linux for the first time if the thing works the first time you turn it on [13:56] ubuntu isnt "simpler" [13:57] yeah, it implements a lot of crap [13:57] noone said it is [13:57] i like slackware is easier than ubuntu [13:57] it has much more complexity, to dumb down the interface and the users [13:57] no slack it is i said [13:57] s/like/think/ [13:57] it's using both upstart but it's keeping the old scripts [13:57] very confusing [13:57] and selinux and stuff [13:57] even more confusing [13:57] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:57] I said i go from ubuntu to arch then finishing with slackware [13:58] I went from ubuntu to mandriva, and then slackware, and now my own distro [13:58] ubuntu is for the mainstream [13:58] avoid at all costs [13:58] there are 4 types of users... theres the user that uses "sudo", one that uses "su" one that just logins into root, and one that has no idea what root is/does [13:58] I used ubuntu for 4 days [13:58] I don t like automatic upgrade once in a while it screw up somethings [13:58] I think that slackware is easy when you learn it ;) [13:58] i used ubuntu for 2 weeks and then installed debian [13:58] it's VERY easy [13:58] i think every system is easy once you learn it... [13:58] Ivshti: until you try to do something [13:58] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [13:58] i hate code names... [13:58] nope... [13:59] nader (~nader@213.217.37.113) joined ##slackware. [13:59] what I like about ubuntu is that they maintain projects such as networkmanager [13:59] which really simplify stuff [13:59] Ubuntu 8.02 code named Silver Sandwich [13:59] try to do things the "linux" way on ubuntu and get ready for headaches [13:59] you spend hours to fix it. no need thx format all and install a stable slack [13:59] as I said earlier, it's a lot easier for a linux DEVELOPER to download a tarball ot networkmanager, compile it, and put it into his distro [13:59] instead of writing scripts and stuff [13:59] and it's easier for the user [14:00] it might be a bit broken but they'll fix it [14:00] and wtf is network manager and why do we need it/ [14:00] imagine you have to change wireless networks? [14:00] what did linux do about networking before ubuntu came along [14:00] ferdna: if you're going off that page, sudo -u icecast && sleep 5 && sudo -u # makes more sense [14:00] it's a unified app for controlling your networks [14:00] oh this should be greatly limited and impossible to debug [14:00] it automatically chooses the fastest available network [14:00] in #ubuntu, tehy see no reason to recompile a kernel. [14:01] trhodes, will that make a difference? [14:01] instead of focusing on wireless, lets reinvent the entire system [14:01] qmasterrr (~qmasterrr@p3EE2328A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:01] I also see no reason, except if you want to strip out your system [14:01] and what about wicd, it is included in slackware /extra? is it bad to use it? [14:01] or to update something that requires a new kernel [14:01] i love optimizing kernels [14:01] we will add 3 layers of shite on top of the working layer [14:01] just to make it "simpler" brilliant! [14:01] but look at the things from a different view [14:01] I <3 wicd [14:01] you pre-compile kernel to strip it out, don't you? [14:01] vicd ftw [14:01] wicd* [14:01] wicd really simplified networking for slackware [14:01] ferdna: well, the sleep won't happen until the first command finishes successfully [14:02] networkmanager simplifies it more [14:02] and it doesn't depend on python! [14:02] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:02] Ivshti: that should make all the retards happy [14:02] Ivshti: no... it's not stripping out a system wehn you are removing intel support on an AMD machine [14:02] doesn't it depend on 1 million other things ? [14:02] lol [14:02] no, it just depends on pam, *kit and gnome [14:02] ferdna: && means "and (if successful)" [14:02] heh, precisely =P [14:02] phrag: it doesn't depend on gnome, but the applet does [14:02] and it doesn't depend on PAM [14:02] not that precise [14:02] but it does on consolekit [14:03] and glib2 [14:03] that's not very fatal [14:03] ubuntu is a great gatekeeper though...traps the derps until they realize linux sucks...so they never get to the inner realms [14:03] wqell ntohing wrong with wicd, and nothing wrong with building networkmanager if you need it on slack [14:03] the kit stuff is a good idea and it gets implemented better everyday [14:03] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) joined ##slackware. [14:03] and it's not the kit stuff that's wrong but HAL [14:03] ferdna: man sudoers && man visudo [14:03] hal didn't integrate well with policykit [14:03] yeah. its as a_small_dog said 3 layers on top of an existing one [14:04] wait, i needed network manager on slack 6 years ago [14:04] yeah, true [14:04] how did i survive! [14:04] ever tried working constantly with different networks ? Its hell without a networkmanager [14:04] but some layers get deprecated [14:04] HAL is deprecated [14:04] i had to install dropline gnome for this reason [14:04] ferdna: but that shouldn't be an issue as root :) [14:04] idk [14:04] i am just confused [14:04] so what we have.. components... udev, dbus, consolekit, policykit, devicekit, packagekit, networkmanager, pulseaudio, ALSA [14:04] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [14:04] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [14:05] I see a reason for every one of those to exist [14:05] HAHAH [14:05] there isn't anything unneeded [14:05] policykit? [14:05] they definately fit within the lunix philosophy [14:05] for selinux? [14:05] ignore selinux now [14:05] I'm talking about policykit [14:05] oh, ok [14:05] shadow is old for a desktop [14:05] i really need devicekit on slackware [14:05] WHAT DO I DO? [14:06] and wtf is devicekit [14:06] install gsb? [14:06] i don't even know what devicekit is [14:06] Ivshti: go write a slackbuild and submit to slackbuilds.org =) [14:06] it's in GSB [14:06] gsb? [14:06] GSB? [14:06] oh, thought it was [14:06] ugh gnome [14:06] gnomeslackbuild [14:06] devicekit replaces HAL [14:06] ferdna: oh, BTW, don't do #!/bin/csh, do #!/bin/bash or #!/bin/sh [14:06] it's much smaller and simplier [14:06] haha [14:06] Action: Cann0n hates gnome [14:06] what it does is it makes a list for all the disk devices and sums up information [14:06] i definately see why i would need gnome to connect to wireless [14:06] trhodes, i am just trying as the example as in the page... but i always do sh [14:07] makes perfect sene [14:07] trhodes: _always_ #!/bin/sh unless there's a specific reason not to. [14:07] gnome connects to it and gets the information about your devices [14:07] else it has to be hardcoded into gnome [14:07] eviljames: gotta like the shabang [14:07] which is not a good idea [14:07] Ivshti: slack doesn't use gnome, so best just drop it =P [14:07] gnome runs lspci/lsusb/lsscsi/lsmod [14:07] which is slow. [14:07] gnome is slower than xfce [14:07] getting this information in a dbus interface is much better [14:07] or fluxbox [14:07] so slackware includes HAL [14:08] because it uses KDE/Xfce [14:08] ok switch all to BSD [14:08] and HAL is much bigger, and more monolithic [14:08] openbsd or freebsd? [14:08] i use fluxbox mostly. lately i've been using xfce though [14:08] and you'll hate it compared to devicekit [14:08] it duplicates functionality [14:08] (HAL) [14:08] xfce also uses it [14:08] we've been hating it for years [14:08] freebsd for more compliance [14:08] i only use the console but ill definately install gnome so i can connect to wireless [14:08] it isn't worth to have something as big as HAL for simple device listing [14:08] ferdna: if those lines are in your rc.local, any errors should appear right before your login [14:09] a_small_dog: i'm gonna install gnome so i can lspci faster [14:09] ya'll posting in a troll thread. [14:09] lol [14:09] word [14:09] you dont need gnome to connect to wireless. wpa_supplicant can do this [14:09] Cann0n: you miss the point [14:09] Cann0n: lol [14:09] you must have a library that sends you notifications when a device is inserted and so on [14:09] i thought the point was it's slower [14:10] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn2-212-50-134-151.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:10] you can't run lspci every cycle and check if there is something new in it [14:10] bye, I'll have a rest [14:10] that is why i wront a scrip that tells me what device changed in /dev [14:10] wrote* [14:10] of course, i spell checked it first :P [14:10] that's basically what devicekit is [14:10] but in C [14:11] this was a simple bash script [14:11] and instead of monitoring /dev it uses directly information from the thing that controls /dev, udev [14:11] so it's much faster and a more practical implementation [14:11] plus, tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log does wonders too [14:11] trhodes, i am using a console to access the server [14:11] is there anyway i could see that output? [14:11] brb [14:11] bye now, I'm really having a rest [14:11] k [14:12] ferdna: really, the su (i think) should have worked :/ [14:12] Axius (~fd@92.84.5.79) joined ##slackware. [14:12] ferdna: console as in ssh ? [14:12] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-5-19.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [14:12] wow...so gnome is the future......guess pat really fucked that one up [14:13] guess so lol [14:13] would i be a noob if i said i didn't mind gslaptL [14:13] s/L/?/ [14:14] wtf is gslapt [14:15] why do we need to fight for udev, xorg slackbuild etc... buy a MAC and go WINDOWS [14:15] a_small_dog: it's a frontend for slapt-get, which is slackwares 3rd party version of apt-get [14:16] how retarded [14:16] though, repo's are very limited, i've found it useful [14:16] john_dee (~id@95-29-185-177.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [14:16] slapt-get *shudder* [14:16] it's not that bad [14:17] why would you need it [14:17] i dont use it for everything. just updates [14:17] ??? [14:17] and deps [14:17] you are silly [14:17] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [14:17] you are the slack news letter? [14:18] yes [14:18] i don't see how slapt-set is any different than slackpkg [14:18] s/set/get/ [14:18] its more redundant? [14:19] it's another choice. [14:19] doesn't hurt to have a bunch of tools in the tool box [14:19] Cann0n: yep :) [14:19] though, i still prefer sbo's [14:19] choice is good, especially when there are other choices that already work [14:19] fragmentation is AWESOME [14:19] a_small_dog: the same could be said for pretty much *anything* in F/OSS, and other things [14:20] slapt-get is much older [14:20] swaret is too [14:20] but i don't touch swaret [14:21] retarded, silly, fragmentation. wow [14:21] at least he keeps us entertained by changing nicks every day [14:22] who? [14:22] a_small_dog: [14:22] hmm lol. i don't know who he is [14:22] aka chatter, aka NoelleRousell, aka god-knows-what-else [14:23] lol [14:23] oh ok [14:23] i never change mine [14:24] hoobop (user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [14:24] i wish there was a multilib sbo package [14:24] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:25] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:26] ferdna: stdout and stderr at boot time aren't saved anywhere; if you're on a decent VPS, then you might have access via an IP KVM or something [14:26] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:27] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:27] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. 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[14:42] trhodes, correct... that is not the case [14:42] :( [14:43] i'm trying to remember some tty snooping tricks :/ [14:43] i got access to the server [14:43] and i get some errors [14:43] oh ok [14:43] nice, those are needed :) [14:43] it's probably something silly [14:45] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [14:45] what errors do you get (paraphrasing is fine if copy/paste difficult) ? [14:46] kevin01123 (~user@2002:4751:4123:1234:221:6bff:fe01:8106) joined ##slackware. [14:46] i get a "dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket: Address alread in use" and command not found for icecast [14:46] ahh, setterm might have done it :P [14:47] oh ok, simple, give it and absolute pathname for the command not found bit [14:47] which icecast (and whatever else you run) from your successful interactive session [14:48] that earns me a "duh" (i should have known to check the path :P ) [14:48] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:48] dnsmasq is irrelevant [14:48] yeah, i figured dnsmasq has nothing to do with it... [14:48] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-76-226.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] i have set full path [14:49] and it doesn't work... [14:49] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:49] are you su'ing like the page or sudoing ? [14:49] either is fine afaik [14:51] set full path? the variable or you gave absolute names for the binaries ? if so, is it _still_ a command not found error ? [14:52] also, are you sure icecast isn't running (pgrep icecast # or so) [14:52] trhodes, i think i see the error... [14:53] i had it in the rc.local and in rc.icecast [14:53] starting at bootime both scripts [14:53] lol [14:53] let me see what the output is [14:53] ahh ;) [14:54] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [14:55] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:55] InTel_GB (intel@95.43.20.167) left ##slackware. [14:57] Tusk (~Tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [14:58] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-7-31.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:59] trhodes, it worked! [14:59] :D [14:59] hehhehehe, it was my bad... =S [14:59] haha, i figured it had to be something simple [15:00] cool :) [15:00] where is apache installed, when it's installed with Slackware? [15:01] /usr/sbin/httpd [15:01] thanks [15:01] i was gonna say "grep bin /var/log/packages/httpd*" [15:01] but you beat me to it :) [15:03] init[1] (buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [15:03] RaNdY (randy@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [15:03] ferdna: next time you need to see a console remotely: man setterm | less -ip \-dump [15:03] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:04] spider1010 (~root@ip98-179-3-97.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:04] (since you have root access) [15:04] straterra (~straterra@fuhell.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:04] madbear_ (~dude@c83-253-60-113.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [15:04] nvision (~nvision@g225061094.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:04] disconnect [15:04] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [15:04] help me, im melting [15:05] spider1010 (~root@ip98-179-3-97.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:05] xD [15:05] trhodes, coool.. thanks [15:06] it is working [15:06] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC3001B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:06] it's all files? i need php for apache, but i can't find the module file [15:07] what is a module file? [15:07] libphp5.so [15:08] valsiterb: that is not part of apache. install the php lib [15:09] i have installed all at once with slackware [15:09] so.... locate libphp5.so [15:09] so it's there. Where's the problem? [15:09] irc1010 (~irc1010@ip98-179-3-97.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:10] hello [15:10] irc1010 (~irc1010@ip98-179-3-97.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:12] yup, that was "aloha" [15:12] spider1010 (~irc1010@ip98-179-3-97.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:13] You know using irssi for the first time kinda blows. [15:18] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.45.46) joined ##slackware. [15:18] Tusk (~Tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:18] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-62.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:20] find: ,,libphp5.so" not a file or directory [15:22] valsiterb: why do you need that file? [15:22] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:23] i want use PHP with apache [15:23] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) joined ##slackware. [15:23] have you had a look at httpd.conf? If not, do it! [15:23] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [15:24] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:25] LoadModule php5_module lib/httpd/modules/libphp5.so [15:27] that's not in httpd.conf [15:28] it's in mod_php.conf [15:28] yes [15:28] so, is that conf included in http.conf? [15:28] yes [15:29] (uncommented line) [15:29] and what is the *exact* problem then? [15:29] if that conf is included you *are* using php [15:29] Blue-Slacker: hello amn.. [15:30] but it can't find the module [15:30] hi brainvision [15:30] valsiterb: says who? [15:30] httpd [15:30] Blue-Slacker: jabber? [15:31] valsiterb: where? and what does it say exactly? [15:31] shannara_ (~5c873483@gateway/web/freenode/x-kxbctsfvhocrajrp) joined ##slackware. [15:31] goodafternoon [15:31] does anyone know in which series can I find vim? [15:31] ap [15:31] brainvision: ok [15:32] I would like create a projet based on Slackware [15:32] Cannot load /usr/foo/lib/httpd/modules/libphp5.so into server: No such file or directory [15:32] Tusk (~Tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [15:32] shannara_: and what will the differences be? [15:33] I would like create a small Slackware for school [15:33] valsiterb: now we're getting closer. What the hell is /usr/foo? [15:33] I love distributions based on Slackware that are different [15:33] livecd or what? [15:33] pprkut: path to phpMyAdmin [15:33] KDE or what? [15:33] I suggest you use Slax Build [15:33] valsiterb: huh? [15:33] you don't need to rebrand it, just adapt Slax for your needs, it's very easy [15:34] valsiterb: what's got phpMyAdmin to do with that? [15:34] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [15:34] Indeed I am student and we participate in a partnership for Refurbished PCs for Benin [15:35] pprkut: i don't know, in conf file is just relative path [15:35] mm, no. It's absolute to the install prefix of apache, if you mean mod_php.conf [15:35] elbeardmorez (~elbeardmo@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:35] elbeardmorez_ (~elbeardmo@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:35] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.199.108) joined ##slackware. [15:36] in conf file is "lib/httpd/modules/libphp5.so" path (no modified) [15:37] teckan (~teckan@bl6-119-230.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:37] that is correct (assuming you run 32bit slackware) [15:37] Is anyone here using virtualbox on Slackware host? [15:37] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:37] kleanchap: yes [15:37] sure [15:37] valsiterb: are you using slackware's apache? [15:38] pprkut: yes [15:38] RaNdY (randy@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [15:38] pprkut, I am trying to access 2 usb devices on the guest VM (XP). [15:38] straterra (~straterra@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [15:38] valsiterb: so, where does the /usr/foo come from? [15:38] init[1] (buffer@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [15:38] kleanchap: I use ose. Never bothered with usb [15:38] Nick change: init[1] -> Guest43435 [15:38] It would have to be the cd installable and Live [15:38] pprkhut: i think, it come from virtualhost [15:38] The only external usb device the guest sees is the cdrom drive. [15:38] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:39] What is ose? [15:39] open source edition [15:39] i've received a wmv file that i am not able to open through mplayer using my codecs (at least i am not able to see the video. the sound works). it was created in windows vista using photostory 3. any clue on how to convert it? [15:39] mshade: [15:39] valsiterb: ok. Get rid of it and php will work. Apache'sprefix is /usr, not /usr/foo [15:40] madbear_ (~dude@c83-253-60-113.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:40] pprkut: i'll try something... [15:40] pprkut, I am confused. How is ose related to virtualbox? Excuse my ignorance. [15:40] teckan: what does "file" say about it? [15:40] Ivshti: is this a good idea ? [15:40] i'm getting the error "Requested video codec family [wmvadmo] (vfm=dmo) not available" and believe this codec is not available to 64bit slackware. [15:40] kleanchap: virtualbox comes in two flavors, ose and puel [15:41] madbear_ (~dude@c83-253-60-113.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [15:41] Camarade_Tux, it says "Microsoft ASF" [15:41] kleanchap: vbox-puel is vbox-ose + RDP & USB [15:41] nothing more? [15:41] nothing more. [15:41] also, mplayer should give more details than that: it should give the missing codec a good name [15:41] I'll got it! thanks for idea [15:42] Camarade_Tux, it just asks for that wmvadmo and says to enable it at compilation [15:42] pprkut, For me, do I need to install vbox-puel on Slackware to get usb working? [15:42] yes [15:43] (then it opens the audio decoder ffmpeg without trouble and plays the video without picture) [15:43] shannara_: yes, slax is REALLY easy to modify [15:43] pprkut, thnx [15:43] madbear_ (~dude@c83-253-60-113.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:43] np [15:43] shannara_: and you can take my distro's installer and modify it to work with slax [15:43] teckan: well, you should try to take the slackbuild and recompile mplayer with this enabled, it's quite fast to do [15:44] shannara_: however it's a bit of a work, so you should try to remaster another distribution [15:44] hmm... is here an default password for mysql admin? [15:44] vocca (~djames_00@41.155.12.25) joined ##slackware. [15:44] shannara_: remastering is the best solution for you, since you probably don't need to spend a lot of time or implement experimental stuff or your programs [15:45] Camarade_Tux, there is nothing about this at ./configure --help [15:45] pprkut, one last question, how do I find out which one is installed on my system? The gui is not giving any information. [15:45] Ivshti: I try ubuntu but doesnt light and fast [15:45] Ivshti: maybe try slax [15:45] kleanchap: Help -> About VirtualBox [15:45] shannara_: sure about it? ubuntu is not so heavy [15:45] teckan: anything called wmv? dmo? you might also want to ask on #mplayer [15:46] shannara_: you can use lubuntu or something like this [15:46] kleanchap: mine says 3.1.4_OSE [15:47] Ivshti: for example My Slack run with WMaker use 40Mo of Ram [15:47] pprkut, mine say 3.1.4 r57640 [15:47] shannara_: if the computers in your school are slow, it's a problem [15:47] you can't really expect a livecd to be that light [15:48] and you can't really expect a functional distribution that will boot on almost every computer to be that light [15:48] Ivshti: pentium III 700Mhz 128 and 192 of Ram [15:48] kleanchap: so it's not ose. I suppose it's puel then [15:49] pprkut, looks like it. Now I got to get the usb detection by guest. Slackware finds them fine. [15:49] vocca (djames_00@41.155.12.25) left ##slackware. [15:49] shannara_: ohh, that's really bad :( I'd go for Slax [15:49] shannara_: it can be installed but it will be a frugal install [15:50] shannara_: not really a big deal but it doesn't have an installer, you must copy the files yourself, but it isn't hard [15:50] raela (1000@cpe-67-241-25-44.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:51] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [15:55] bbl [15:55] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC3001B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:56] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [15:57] zed_DX (~kvirc@187.146.96.55) joined ##slackware. [15:58] raela (1000@cpe-67-241-25-44.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:58] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:59] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [16:01] madbear_ (~dude@c83-253-60-113.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [16:05] shannara_ (~5c873483@gateway/web/freenode/x-kxbctsfvhocrajrp) left irc: [16:11] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:14] mayday_jay (~mayday_ja@control-console.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:14] teckan (~teckan@bl6-119-230.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:14] mayday_jay (~mayday_ja@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [16:18] i wonder... /me removepkgs xf86-video-* except vesa [16:19] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:21] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:21] no [16:22] why not? [16:23] sh0ne (~sh0ne@79.101.216.20) joined ##slackware. [16:25] why? [16:27] don't need em [16:28] teckan (~teckan@bl6-120-172.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:29] both radeon and intel are better than vesa [16:29] (nv...) [16:29] heh [16:29] i use an ati binary driver [16:29] booshka__ (~booshka__@213.217.53.16) joined ##slackware. [16:29] chlinux [16:29] and made a driver package [16:30] well, yeah, could remove them then, but why not keep ati/radeon? [16:30] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.95.181) joined ##slackware. [16:30] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-5-19.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [16:30] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:30] ill keey ati and radeon [16:30] whats your opinion on the open source nv and radeon drivers ? [16:30] nv sucks [16:30] mr-S^b43: radeon sucks [16:30] ok, nv sucks on recent hardware [16:30] actuall i lie [16:30] radeon works pretty well for me [16:31] not for me [16:31] i know but thats all i v=can use with m200 ati :( [16:31] it all depends on the hardware [16:31] at least i got compiz-fusion working with it :) [16:31] the ati binary drivers work damned well for the Radeon 3200HD [16:32] only had troubles with the lates ati drivers. hek my card gas been placed lagacy ( argg) [16:33] booshka__ (booshka__@213.217.53.16) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:33] radeo worked on my Radeon Mobile 9100 [16:33] radeon* [16:34] mhhhh..... but still it works nice on my laptop. [16:34] nvision_ (~nvision@g225058226.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:35] more or less ... i have to admit. how did you get the ati to work with that "old" card ? [16:35] had no problem [16:35] had full 3d and everything [16:36] i also used to have a Rage 128 [16:36] which worked well under ati [16:36] even running with lates xorg.conf. as i remember this serie has been placed lagacy as well [16:36] time to roll up the sleves then :) [16:37] oops not xorg.conf but xorg [16:38] niels__horn (niels@187.89.19.206) joined ##slackware. [16:38] i tried that Rage 128 on xfree86 [16:38] one more question. do you use direct rendering and 3D acc ? [16:38] nvision (~nvision@g225061094.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [16:38] yep [16:38] i don't remember on the rage128 though [16:38] Ok, ..really time to roll up the sleves then :) [16:38] but on the radeon's yeah [16:39] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:39] rage should not work with xorg 75 version, it has been dropped by ati on direct rendering and 3D acc. so I am curious of course [16:40] but normal use is possible [16:40] mayday_jay (~mayday_ja@control-console.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:40] doesn't surprise me. i haven't turned that computer on in 5 years [16:40] ohhhhhhhhh ..... [16:40] it still had slackware 10.2 on it iirc [16:41] ati used to work fine for me with 12.2 but is not supported by the latest org and ati anymore [16:41] maestrolinux (~eduardo@unaffiliated/maestrolinux) joined ##slackware. [16:41] hi!!! [16:41] There prelink package for slackware [16:42] tooly (theo@e178160063.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware. [16:42] i hate ati now [16:42] there it goes... bye bye all video drivers but 3 [16:44] he. nvidia still stays with almost all nv cards [16:44] i wish thats how it was [16:46] well think of it. supporting hardware more than 8 years old, is just not gonna happen [16:47] on statistics a new pc is bought evrey 5 years. and computing technology goes fast these days [16:47] brainvision: hi man are you there [16:47] oh yeah. it changes fast [16:48] dual core quad core hexa core, when will this madness end ? 128 core ? [16:49] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:51] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-239.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [16:53] maestrolinux (~eduardo@unaffiliated/maestrolinux) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:53] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. 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[17:19] effy11: http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/slackware/unsupported/kde-3.5.10-for-slack13.0/ theres a README there [17:19] or even never install the kde stuff on slack 13 then install kde 3 packages [17:21] on a related note, anyone put together working kde4 libs (enough to compile against them) on a pre kde4 slack? [17:21] zed_DX (~kvirc@187.146.96.55) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:24] [yop] (~yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [17:27] niels__horn (niels@187.89.19.206) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:29] packetrat_ (~packetrat@adsl-75-5-72-252.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:30] /help [17:30] Action: spider1010 [17:30] shonudo (user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [17:30] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424744.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:31] packetrat (~packetrat@adsl-75-5-72-252.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[17:39] why? [17:40] niels__horn (niels@187.89.82.3) joined ##slackware. [17:40] because a nice thing about irssi is that it is fully perl scriptable [17:40] hoobop (user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [17:40] elbeardmorez (~elbeardmo@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC. [17:41] cool i'll have to check that out [17:42] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC31465.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [17:42] elbeardmorez_ (~elbeardmo@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Going! [17:42] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:43] How do I create a fat32 file system? [17:43] stygian (~stygian@ppp-70-129-226-218.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:43] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [17:43] mkdosfs [17:43] dualbus (eduardo@201.170.193.83.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:44] mancha, thnx [17:44] cheers [17:45] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-14.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [17:46] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:46] mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/*** [17:47] how can I tell what vesa video mode i'm currently in? it's not in /proc/cmdline, and rdev -v /boot/ says 65535 (invalid) [17:48] fbset? [17:48] lilo.conf has it, but I wonder if there's another, more robust, way of finding out [17:48] ok, i'll check [17:48] oh there is a way to get the actual vesa code, shit i always forget this [17:49] yeah, i'm stumped :/ [17:49] zed_DX (~kvirc@187.146.96.55) joined ##slackware. [17:49] hwinfo --framebuffer [17:50] oh, the current one. hmm [17:50] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.95.181) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:51] well fbset gives the mode just not in the vesa code form [17:51] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Quit: Changing server [17:51] oh ok, good enough [17:51] i was still readin' the man page for it [17:52] thanks :) [17:52] no problem [17:52] lol, someone made a blog post about updating kde 4.3 to 3.5 hahaha [17:54] packetrat (~packetrat@adsl-75-5-72-252.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:54] packetrat_ (~packetrat@adsl-75-5-72-252.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:54] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.226.189.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:55] god damnot trhodes, now i'm going nuts trying to remember how i used to do it [17:56] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:56] and their blog is stupid imho too because they're using packages from one stable release to another, which is not recommended [17:56] sure, it seemed to have worked, but what if it didn't? 8-) [17:57] besides, there are kde 3.x packs for slackware 13.0 [17:57] (iirc they're in extra? forget where, but they're official) [17:57] chemosh (~chemosh@5354A903.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Quit: chemosh [17:58] ea_suter (~easuter@nat-1.uevora.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:58] yeah, they are pretty dumb in that sense [17:58] ive been using slackware 13 with kde 3.5 from 12.2 for a long time [17:58] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC31465.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:59] question: im using X -query ubuntubox to login to my downstairs machine, only the keymap seems a bit offf.. for example UP takes a screenshot. what do i need to change to fix this? [18:00] I think maybe the blogger was having a compatibility issue and didn't know it. His video driver didn't work well with KDE4. [18:00] he was in a virtual machine...like a sissy girl [18:00] Nick change: jg71_ -> jg71 [18:00] mancha: haha, yeah, another thing that's been bothering me is changing vesafb modes on the fly... fbset (and it's manpage) is out of date :( [18:01] out of date in what sense [18:01] says so [18:01] KDE is actually pretty nice. I'm using KDE-4.3.1 [18:01] *KDE4 [18:01] qmasterrr (~qmasterrr@p3EE2328A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:02] xfce here [18:02] xfce here [18:02] console here [18:02] without 13.0 upgrades [18:02] fire|bird: i can't do the dual bars [18:02] I'm a bit disillusioned with the big desktops... I might just go abck to using wmii [18:02] as they replace all the icons with shit ass blue icons [18:02] ;) [18:02] xfce is not bad either. [18:02] i like Tango [18:02] i like Rodent [18:02] tango is shite [18:02] its a proof of concept even.... [18:03] trhodes, not much to the utility, i would't worry about the manpage calling itself old too much :) [18:04] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.226.189.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:04] ok [18:04] Nick change: effy11 -> effy11|CatchingZ [18:04] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-249.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:04] effy sleeps a lot [18:04] m3tti (~user@p57B7C515.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:05] te_ (~te@74.113.242.6) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:05] hey guys whats the matter with pam and kde 4.4 just wanted to know that [18:05] m3tti: the problem isn't PAM it's policykit [18:05] and whats the problem can't figure that out [18:06] KDE 4.4 requires it to support all of its features. [18:06] actually, why i wondered about querying the mode on the fly was because of another question someone had earlier today. they were trying to catch errors on bootup, and to do that remotely, i thought maybe i could make an fb dump to find error output (without a KVM or VNC or anything) [18:07] so is slackware going to abandon kde a-la-gnome or adopt pam like the rest of the universe? [18:07] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424744.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:07] NaCl: hm and why doesn't that work with slack??? i'm not using kde right now but just wanted to know [18:07] abandon kde i hope [18:07] It does. [18:07] I made it work. [18:07] mancha: we are going to blackmail upstream to not depend on pam :P [18:08] heh, pprkut, and here i was hoping for good news re: pam [18:08] make it work like a 12 year old chinaman [18:08] XD [18:08] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:08] mancha: haha, I have no idea actually :) [18:08] ok so there is nothing in the way to get kde 4.4 working on slack [18:09] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [18:09] Install alienBOB's packages, although some (unimportant) features will be missing [18:09] pprkut was it you i chagtted briefly with re: cinelerra and its fight with faad2? [18:09] *chatted [18:09] mancha: yes, that was me [18:09] ah ok, then i will report that i won the war. [18:10] haha, great :) [18:10] though the program is so awesome that i didn't know how to use 95% of the stuff and i closed it,got naked, and hid in the closet out of fear. [18:12] Nick change: xchg -> xchg_spi [18:12] lol [18:12] sounds neat, anyways :) [18:12] I never got around liking the ui [18:12] it just looks.....weird [18:12] mancha: come out of the closet [18:13] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] cinelerra's interface isn't meant to be used by humans [18:15] IMHO [18:15] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-239.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:15] littlebir (~slek@129.21.132.85) joined ##slackware. [18:16] littlebir (slek@129.21.132.85) left ##slackware. [18:24] Nick change: Guest43435 -> akber [18:24] akber (buffer@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) left irc: Changing host [18:24] akber (buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [18:24] Nick change: akber -> init[1] [18:24] ea_suter: try the adobe flash designer interface [18:24] artists != human i guess [18:26] no knock to anyone who likes amarok 2, but what's with the new layout? [18:28] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-122-218.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:28] heya,folks [18:28] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [18:29] hey [18:29] heya MLanden, how are you today? [18:29] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:29] shonudo: why ask.... [18:29] shonudo: isnt it obvious that the ui "designers" have usurped all rational thought in every project as of late? [18:29] krazy_48446 (~noone@68-188-252-151.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:29] i ask because i always wonder why project admins feel the need to "improve" something that was quite good [18:30] get used to it.......................................... [18:30] a_small_dog, i think i agree; there's just change for the sake of change [18:30] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [18:30] Nick change: jeagoss -> jeagoss_gone [18:30] how do I restart vmware server since it sits in rc5.d instead of the standard rc.d? [18:30] nessundorma (~quassel@78.134.114.182) joined ##slackware. [18:31] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [18:31] apparently osx and vista are the "human interfaces" to strive towards in order to appease the unwashed masses and useless bread gobblers [18:31] heya,Cann0n...fire|bird.....Happy À(Pi) day...just relaxin' for the night [18:31] i see there's a fork called "clementine"... anyone have any experience with it? [18:31] the craziest "improvement" i've come across so far is MS Word 2007 at work... [18:32] any channel op around? [18:32] shonudo, clementine as in the music player or another fork? [18:33] MLanden, the music player (a fork of amarok 1.4x to KDE4) [18:34] @shonudo: exactly. The original amarok interface was complete and easy to use [18:34] agreed [18:34] why change it? [18:34] also aesthetically pleasing [18:34] mshade (~mshade@ip98-169-164-171.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:34] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:34] I have no idea... [18:35] shonudo, might have messed with it in comparison with cuberok [18:35] this reminds me of what happened to winamp back in the day; there was nothing particularly wrong with winamp2 [18:35] there was a ton wrong with winamp3 [18:35] I thought amarok2 was just going to be a port to QT4 and the new KDE libs! [18:35] Wiseguy (wiseguy@acid.epicshells.com) joined ##slackware. [18:35] shonudo: at least winamp3 can act like winamp 2 more or less [18:35] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:35] amarok2 forced me to switch to mocp ;-D [18:35] ea_suter, if it had just been amarok on QT4, that would have worked [18:36] I still use mocp every now and then [18:36] one of my biggest upsets was gnome assimilating and trapping gnumeric and abiword [18:36] though they still run in wine LOL [18:36] i use foobar :) great little player [18:36] in wine [18:36] lmao [18:36] nice [18:37] mp3blaster is also a nice little player but doesn't support as many formats [18:37] as the name suggests LD [18:37] clementine does not look like amarok at all [18:37] :D [18:37] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:37] Wiseguy (wiseguy@acid.epicshells.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:38] nessundorma (~quassel@78.134.114.182) left irc: Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. [18:38] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-5-19.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj0NU9Y52Dw [18:38] nvision (~nvision@g225058226.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [18:38] ...what is with the weird progress bar? :-P [18:38] Wiseguy (wiseguy@infinite.evilness.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:38] stop complaining and watch this eyecandy! [18:38] nvision_ (~nvision@g225058226.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:38] nvision (~nvision@g225058226.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:38] I'm probably just going to return to a good ol' tiling window manager [18:38] OOOOH you see what it did when i switched windows? KDE RUELZzz [18:38] nvision (~nvision@g225058226.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [18:39] "how i learned to stop worrying and love the eyecandy" [18:39] fhobia, i don't know what's with the progress bar or with any of these changes [18:39] its like a rainbow :-D [18:39] it makes me happy [18:39] lol [18:39] eyecandy... like a steve jobs thing: iCandy -- you need this to be happy and complete (this week) [18:40] this must be a princeton test [18:40] they're doing this and monitoring our responses [18:40] definately [18:40] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-189-016.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:40] hey this shit applies to the real world too [18:40] "let's see how they respond if we hide the close window 'x' in the corner" [18:40] its all good, i save a lot of memory by not running amarok anymore [18:40] mshade (~mshade@ip98-169-164-171.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:41] lol@fhobia [18:41] too many artsy people programming that don't care about functionality [18:41] niels__horn (niels@187.89.82.3) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:42] did someone of you install mod_security (apache) once ? [18:42] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-79-194.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:43] yeah. they should be focusing on the cli interface for those who run amarok via rs232 [18:43] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [18:43] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Client Quit [18:43] lol [18:44] Nick change: mikee -> mfreenet [18:45] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:45] SkyTV (~noneya@dsl092-165-068.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [18:45] SkyTV (~noneya@dsl092-165-068.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Changing host [18:45] SkyTV (~noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) joined ##slackware. [18:45] no need to go overboard ;) [18:47] a_small_dog_ (~189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-izvadxcdmupddgem) joined ##slackware. [18:47] a_small_dog (~189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-pgkuxqutkpckvrxn) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:47] Nick change: a_small_dog_ -> a_small_dog [18:47] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:41ff:fe56:d92e) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:48] madbear (~dude@c83-253-55-69.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:48] clementine is nice and fast [18:48] Skywise (~noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:48] just looks weird having an actual clementine segment in the tray [18:48] XD [18:48] Nick change: madbear_ -> madbear [18:48] grazymax (~grazymax@host69-131-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:48] yummy [18:49] there's always the chance i'll warm up to amarok2 [18:49] doubt it [18:49] but there's a chance [18:50] give clementine a chance, seriously [18:50] it IS the old amarok [18:50] and it isn't sluggish (best of all) [18:50] yeah, i think i will at least give it a run [18:50] and if it's fast, so much the better [18:51] guys what is the format for hosts.allow ? [18:52] syntax_error, able to remove checkinstall? [18:53] is it : hosts allow = 192.168.1.2 ? [18:53] shonudo, if you are on slack64 I can sent you a package :) [18:53] *send [18:53] MLanden, yes but i m trying to modify it to make it works [18:53] i'm not -- i'm running 32 on a test box [18:53] oh ok [18:53] still trying to get used to kde4 [18:53] :) [18:53] :) [18:53] beatzz (~beatzz@66-90-163-118.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [18:54] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) joined ##slackware. [18:54] I just got used to it and now I'm thinking of leaving it [18:54] syntax_error, ok...good luck [18:54] (again) [18:54] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:55] MLanden, well not a matter of luck but of googling lol [18:55] ea_suter, why? [18:56] i'm interested in how people are responding to kde4 [18:56] I actually kind of like kde 4.3 [18:56] syntax_error, cool....learning process in the works...:P [18:56] i like 4.4, best release yet, and i've been using kde for years [18:56] 4.3 definitely made kde4 usable [18:56] i like where it's headed, myself... 4.4 looks great [18:56] but the amount of resources it uses VS the stuff I actually need doesn't justify running it [18:56] yep, 4.4 is really nice [18:57] I've never been an eye-candy person anyway. As it is I find myself using Konsole most of the time [18:57] so the rest of the desktop is really just fluf [18:57] ... [18:57] Nick change: SkyTV -> Skywise [18:58] only reason i'd use kde4 is if i wanted a REALLY LAGGY TERMINAL EMULATOR [18:58] like now I'm using irssi, not KDE's default irc program (whatever that may be) [18:58] Konsole is just fine a_small_dog [18:59] if you dont know any better...aol is fine [19:00] now if they can fix the annoying 'broken context menu in konsole, when you close one of your tabs with hung ssh session'... [19:00] guys, i'm trying to build mod_security from the source, but it seems that there is no DESTDIR target in the Makefile, .... because when i do "make install DESTDIR=lol" it tries to to install directly to "/usr/lib64/***" [19:00] not into "lol/usr/lib64/***" [19:00] ananke: i use killall ssh or kill that ssh to regain bash [19:01] a_small_dog: it's not about regaining bash [19:01] no need to kill ssh [19:01] just press Enter+.. [19:01] ananke: That is satill broken? [19:01] enter + ? [19:01] Enter followed by . [19:01] still [19:01] IIRC [19:01] it's about closing an unresponsive tab results in broken context menu for all other tabs [19:01] a_small_dog is just the same old troll being trollish [19:01] XGizzmo: last time i checked, yes [19:02] Ouch. [19:02] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:02] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-79-194.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:02] antiwire: stop stalking me pl0x [19:02] grazymax (~grazymax@host5-96-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:02] XGizzmo: last time i looked at the kde bug report was about two weeks ago. still open [19:02] krazy_48446 (~noone@68-188-252-151.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:02] you sit there all day just watching me...like....get a life BRO [19:03] paissad, perhaps the makefile doesn't support DESTDIR? [19:03] ea_suter, yes, that's what i said :/ [19:03] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.45.46) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:03] you may just have to create the packagae tree manually [19:03] a_small_dog: AKA: RealBadMan AKA: CraptinColon [19:03] and then manually install the files there [19:03] ... [19:03] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.45.46) joined ##slackware. [19:03] there shouldn't be many for an apache module [19:04] :) [19:04] antiwire: you dont even know 1% of my nicks [19:04] k [19:04] a_small_dog: by all means, keep changing those. keeps us entertained [19:04] but you have gotten very good at lurking [19:04] need help to use swat something wrong [19:04] a++ good [19:05] ananke: me too, i try to make up something semi-clever each connect... [19:05] a_small_dog: and obviously it fills some kind of emotional need for you [19:05] cannot connect via browser [19:05] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.90.164) joined ##slackware. [19:05] ananke: whatever that means [19:05] x-ip__ (~sakura-sl@201.252.195.24) joined ##slackware. [19:05] seems that port 901 is not listening [19:05] mmm coffee with baileys and grand marniehhhhhhh [19:06] a_small_dog: it means what it says. your obsession to keep changing nicks obviously fulfills some kind of emotional need for you [19:06] its more sexual actually [19:06] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:06] x-ip__ (~sakura-sl@201.252.195.24) left irc: Client Quit [19:06] Action: fhobia grabs some popcorn [19:06] beatzz (~beatzz@66-90-163-118.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:06] Action: a_small_dog grabs some ignorecorn [19:07] sh0ne (~sh0ne@79.101.216.20) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:07] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMEe7JqBgvg [19:08] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:09] next time my ssh lags out i will try enter + . [19:09] but....the terminal never accepts any input [19:10] so i kill ssh and reconnect [19:10] hd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:10] hd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Changing host [19:10] hd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [19:10] mr-S^b43 (~sven@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:11] bohunm (~mbohun@202.124.74.39) joined ##slackware. [19:11] I havent used that in a long time [19:11] but it's something along those lines [19:11] i use xterm [19:12] It doesn't matter which terminal you use [19:12] ah, i guess i could ctrl + left click and choose a signal? [19:12] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-79-194.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:12] http://snippets.dzone.com/posts/show/6325 [19:12] here [19:12] [enter] [19:12] jd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:12] followed by ~. [19:13] is there a way to disable and enable my wireless radio in slack64-13.0? [19:13] well it says . [enter] ~ [19:13] qmasterrr (~qmasterrr@p3EE2328A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:13] it'll be one of the two [19:13] :P [19:13] mfillpot: just modprobe -r to the card's module [19:13] ill try it.....though i use irc to make sure my ssh doesnt go down [19:13] disconnects the ssh session and gives you back your terminal [19:14] if it doesnt transfer data (even with keepalive on) it lags out [19:14] mfillpot: Some chipsets/drivers support software kill switch too [19:14] antiwire, I was thinking of that, will that also stop sending power to the radio? [19:14] le_prof (~le_prof@dslc54.ody.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:15] antiwire, I am using ath9k.. I know it is possible because ubuntu does it, but I just can't find the switch myself [19:15] mfillpot, what's the make of it? [19:15] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] MLanden, do you need to know more than the chipset info and module? [19:16] mfillpot, just the chipset [19:16] I also use the ath9k driver and I just have to press the switch for the light to turn off and for the network to go down [19:16] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Bye..... [19:17] I'm using an acer extensa 5630ez [19:17] I have a compaq cq60 and the button doesn't work in slack [19:17] Fatalnix (1001@robots.utc.utc4.k12.me.us) joined ##slackware. [19:17] brb [19:18] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [19:18] echo a 1 or 0 to /sys/class/rfkill/rfkillX/state [19:18] where X = the rfkill of that interface. [19:19] ty antiwire , if it work I will be off in a second [19:19] nvision (~nvision@g225058226.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:21] m3tti (~user@p57B7C515.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:21] antiwire, that is a negative [19:22] Nick change: Fatalnix -> fatalnix1995 [19:22] mfillpot, wonder if xev can see the button [19:22] . [19:22] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [19:23] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [19:23] it works fine here. [19:23] ea_suter (~easuter@nat-1.uevora.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:23] you need to make sure you echo into the correct rfkillX/state [19:24] My system has three different interfaces supported by rfkill [19:24] v6CommO (chris@pool-74-111-219-13.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:25] In my case, rfkill2/state was the correct one and I determined that by referencing these symlinks until I found the device that corresponds to my ath9k card: /sys/class/rfkill/rfkillX/device [19:25] referencing/dereferencing [19:26] syntax_error (~sineror@host149-116-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:28] antiwire, in my case only /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill0 exists [19:29] le_prof (~le_prof@dslc54.ody.ca) left irc: Quit: le_prof [19:29] Then either your card doesn't support it or your kernel has rfkill disabled. [19:29] the only accepted states are 0 and 2, and neither seems to take the wireless down [19:29] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [19:29] echo a 1 into it [19:31] antiwire, echo: write error: Invalid argument [19:31] you should know that 2 is only a myth to the kernel [19:32] mfillpot: your card behaves totally different than mine then. [19:33] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:35] sid77 (~sid77@moko.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:35] sid77 (~sid77@moko.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [19:36] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-79-194.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:37] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-79-194.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] antiwire, can you please tell me how you were able to determine the right device for rfkill? [19:38] I just did [19:38] (2010-03-14 16:25:09) antiwire: In my case, rfkill2/state was the correct one and I determined that by referencing these symlinks until I found the device that corresponds to my ath9k card: /sys/class/rfkill/rfkillX/device [19:38] my ath9k card is phy0 [19:39] antiwire, ok, now I understand and I have confirmed that it is properly referencing my card [19:40] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [19:40] macavity (~charlotte@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:40] so maybe your card doesn't support rkill [19:40] rfkill [19:40] howdy folks :-) [19:40] it works here on an AR928X [19:40] heya,macavity [19:40] Action: jeev starts to sneeze [19:41] syntax_error (~sineror@host190-112-dynamic.33-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:41] antiwire, would I be able to check that with modinfo ath9k? [19:42] mfillpot: modinfo only tells you stuff about the modules.. not the hardware [19:43] MrTopic (~roger@80.30.88.15) joined ##slackware. [19:43] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [19:45] ok, well since I now know to look in /sys/class/ then I will poke around until I find the flags for the wifi button led and the radio itself [19:46] https://ssl.scroogle.org/ [19:48] nille_ (1000@c-83-233-249-34.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:49] MrTopic (~roger@80.30.88.15) left irc: Quit: [BX] Went through the desert on a BitchX with no name. [19:50] bitchx....what a name [19:50] bitchx: the totally 1337 and rude IRC client [19:51] irc is only for 1337 rude people [19:51] oh.. then i guess i took a wrong turn in albuquerque [19:52] ... as i am only rude :O [19:52] s/O/P/ [19:52] macavity, if you would have taken a wrong turn here, you'd be stuck here like i am [19:52] the trick is to speed as fast as you can down either I40 or I25 and miss ABQ altogether [19:53] shonudo: honnestly i have no freaking idea where it even is... i am from Denmark in notheren europe [19:53] nice; want to trade places? [19:53] :) [19:53] i just heard the expression in a Bugs Bunny cartoon when i was 10 years old :P [19:53] lol; that was the first i ever heard of it too :P [19:53] brainwashed! [19:54] no.. but you can come crash on my couch [19:54] i call dibs on the bed [19:54] i could do that -- for a few years (say 10) [19:54] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-79-194.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:55] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [19:55] macavity: can you get me a sex workers visa? [19:55] heh.. by then you'd be eligeble for social benefits here (which includes a place to live) [19:56] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [19:56] a_small_dog: you can get a students visa if you can show ~$1000 in cash at the airport i belive [19:56] how bout 100 ounces of silver? [19:56] that pretty much means "you can stay as long as you like.. as long as you dont try to get benefits" [19:57] but, if you have been in the country for more than 9 months, and have had a job for at least 3 consecutive months durin that period you can get a permanent visa [19:58] Action: shonudo checks for the next flight leaving for denmark [19:58] :P [19:59] hmm, is there a simple tool [without resorting to debugfs/etc] to change ctime of a file? [19:59] that sounds easy [19:59] macavity: do you have to give them the 1000 cash? [19:59] a_small_dog: no, just show them [20:00] a_small_dog: to make sure you didnt spend you last dime getting a plane ticket [20:00] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:01] macavity: interesting [20:01] ananke: GNU stroke ? [20:01] do you have LUGS? [20:01] trhodes: yeah, i just found it a few mins ago. seems the only sane option [20:01] i need some stinky greasers to room with [20:03] macavity: what languages do they speak [20:03] a_small_dog: Danish... [20:03] valsiterb (~valsiterb@130.207.broadband7.iol.cz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:03] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.6) joined ##slackware. [20:03] no habla englais? [20:04] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:04] obviously younger people do.. but dont expect your average dane to be able to converse as fluently in english as i do [20:04] well, spanish is right out for you [20:06] nerd jobs speak english right? [20:07] trhodes: nice, thanks [20:08] a_small_dog: sure.. but some companies will require you to learn danish.. as team efforts are hampered if the majority speak a 2nd language for the benefit of minority [20:08] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:08] zed_DX (~kvirc@187.146.96.55) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:09] i have read and written enlish fluently for more than half of my life.. but when i have to speak it i still pause now and then to think [20:09] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:09] enlish? [20:09] nice try! [20:09] angrish [20:09] *engrish! [20:09] not fooling anyone [20:10] Action: macavity kicks his keyboard [20:10] engrish iz my favoite languish! [20:11] lol [20:12] Action: MLanden watches as the Ø key and the Æ key fly across the room..:P [20:13] heh [20:13] arescorpio (~arescorpi@201.252.10.134) joined ##slackware. [20:13] lol....had to look up the layout...:D [20:13] Æ, Ø and Å are the only keys on this keyboard which do not squeek [20:14] .. as they are the only keys that only gets used that once in a while when i have to send a nastygram to some official office [20:15] macavity,how 'bout the ^ key? [20:15] i think i use that more... [20:15] ^_^ [20:17] folks,to see what I'm referring to http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Computer_keyboard_with_danish_layout.jpg [20:17] MLanden: notice that ~ and ^ are on the same key :P [20:18] it is an awfull layout for coding.. [20:19] macavity, i see how that can be quite irksome [20:19] the good news is that the button next to top row 1 is useless... good for binding yakuake :P [20:21] only lawyers will hate that.. and since i dont care about lawyers (ok, i think they are a plague of the earth) i dont care :P [20:23] OK...the § key....had to wiki that one...section sign [20:24] or "legal paragraph" [20:24] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:25] moistrous (~moistrous@cpe-74-70-78-25.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:26] what is yakuake [20:26] hello [20:26] i just installed slackware 13 and X windows won't load [20:26] it says agpgart module doesn't exist [20:27] did you do a full install? [20:27] i did a "Full" install so everything should be loaded [20:27] yes [20:27] ls /var/log/packages/kernel-modules-* [20:27] ? [20:27] h/o [20:28] its restarting [20:28] that wont help :P [20:28] hehe [20:28] the only time you *need* a reboot is after a kernel upgrade [20:29] ok, theoretically, with ksplice you dont even need that.. but that kind of hacketry is not supported here ;-) [20:29] i was just trying ubuntu but i dont want to install it [20:29] what other distroes have you used? [20:29] and which one are you the most familiar with? [20:29] moistrous: did you boot the huge-smp kernel? [20:30] @a_small_dog: i'm not sure [20:30] then you did [20:30] @macavity: ive used redhat, suse, gentoo, but mostly slackware [20:30] is it booted yet [20:30] but that is of less concern, as both huge and generic have agpgart compiled as a module [20:30] yep [20:31] let me see [20:31] the folder is empty [20:32] it should be in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.ko [20:32] /var/log/packages/ is empty? [20:32] 2.6.29.6_x86_64-2 [20:32] O_O [20:32] not -smp? [20:32] err.. _smp [20:32] ? [20:32] no sorry the packages folder isnt empty [20:32] but the kernel version is [20:32] uname -r? [20:33] agpgart.ko amd64-agp.ko [20:33] 2.6.29.6 [20:33] modprobe -l|grep agp [20:34] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [20:34] i am not familiar with x86_64, so i dont know if it has the smp vs no-smp issue [20:34] intel-agp.ko [20:34] sis-agp.ko [20:34] and via-agp.ko [20:34] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:35] where did you get that output? [20:35] modprobe -l|grep agp [20:35] with the modprobe command you gave [20:35] kernel/drivers/char/agp/intel-agp.ko [20:36] roger [20:36] why on earth would it load them all [20:36] gm152_ (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:36] aargh [20:36] lsmod [20:36] not modprobe -l [20:36] modprobe -l prints all the modules on the hard drive for that kernel [20:36] that's an L, right? [20:36] yes [20:37] but yes.. it looks like you are missing agpgart.ko for sure [20:37] ok let me try lsmod [20:37] no, that only lists the loaded ones [20:37] more like fgrep "agpgart.ko" /var/log/packages/kernel-modules* [20:37] gm152_ (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:37] if its not there.....then thats a bug or something weird [20:38] how can i see if agpgart.ko is there? [20:38] gm152_ (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:38] a_small_dog: you are on sw64, right? [20:38] i tried lsmod |more but i'm not sure what to look for [20:38] no [20:38] lsmod will tell you nothing [20:38] moistrous: fgrep agpgart /var/log/packages/kernel-modules* [20:39] but, obviously, if modprobe -l doesnt list it, it isnt there [20:39] nothing. [20:39] so what can i do? [20:39] ewwww [20:39] you can add it to the kernel? [20:40] how? [20:40] gm152_ (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:40] how do i do that [20:40] please help [20:41] hang on.. [20:41] ok [20:41] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:41] what video card? [20:42] aperturefever (~abell@athedsl-204285.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [20:42] it also says that modules i810 and fbdev don't exist [20:42] i'm not sure, its a sony vaio laptop [20:42] i'll look it up [20:43] nah its okay [20:43] probably intel [20:44] ok [20:44] its a really cool laptop [20:44] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [20:44] 2.26ghz i5 processor with 4gb of ram [20:45] why would slackware64 13 be missing all those modules [20:45] gm152_ (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:45] i have no idea what i did wrong [20:45] nothing maybe [20:45] everything seemed to install successfully [20:45] roger.. i just downloaded the package and exploded it.. they are *not* there [20:46] now thats creepy [20:47] :( [20:47] macavity: what about the .config for it [20:47] were they supposed to be compiled [20:47] moistrous: zgrep -i agp /proc/config.gz [20:47] CONFIG_AGP=y [20:47] does it say CONFIG_AGP=Y? [20:47] noobz [20:47] thrice`: nice to have you with us :-) [20:48] :) [20:48] yes [20:48] moistrous: ok, our saviour is here... he knows the graphics stack and he is on sw64 :-) [20:48] CONFIG_AGP=y [20:48] ok, there is our missing agpgart [20:48] CONFIG_AGP_AMD64=y [20:48] and is going to play playstatoin :> [20:48] nooo [20:49] now, now would xorg bitch that it is missing agpgart when it is built in? [20:49] perhaps this is a very recent nvidia chip? [20:49] what exact model is that Sony Vaio? [20:49] r1m4nn (~riemann@41.104.91.68) joined ##slackware. [20:49] its a very new model [20:50] VPCS111FM/S [20:50] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:51] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:51] moistrous, what does "lspci | grep VGA" return? [20:51] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:51] it returns: [20:51] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:52] 00:02.0 VGA Compatible controller: intel corp arrandale integrated graphics controller (rev 02) [20:52] mm, wtf is that? [20:52] moistrous: ok, that Intel chip was not released at the time of the release of slackware 13 [20:53] poop [20:53] what now? [20:53] is that one of the graphics cards on the CPU type? [20:53] lspci -vv | grep -A 4 00:02.0 [20:53] thrice`: no, its one of those X4500HD thingies [20:53] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:54] arescorpio (~arescorpi@201.252.10.134) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:54] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:54] arescorpio (~arescorpi@201.252.10.134) joined ##slackware. [20:55] arescorpio (~arescorpi@201.252.10.134) left irc: Client Quit [20:55] mancha, that returns a lot of stuff but i dont think it helps [20:55] moistrous: edit /etc/slackpkg/mirrors and pick a mirror for slackware64-current, then run "slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all && slackpkg install-new" [20:55] macavity, i'm not sure if the internet works on this thing [20:55] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:56] you need a recent kernel and a recent xf86-video-intel (and its dependencies) to get X running [20:56] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [20:56] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [20:56] ok [20:56] ok, then you better set it up.. you dont need X to set up networking anyway [20:56] i'll try that [20:56] rinaldi (~chatzilla@h22.232.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 2.0.3/20100223134131] [20:56] moistrous most of the things in life return a lot of things and don't help :/ [20:56] hehe [20:56] :> [20:56] the good news is that i learned a thing or two about x86_64 [20:57] please stick around everyone, i think if i plug a cable into this thing and run dhcpd it will work? [20:57] beatzz (~beatzz@66-90-163-118.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [20:57] dhcpcd eth0 [20:57] NOT dhcpd [20:58] thats a dhcp server :P [20:58] ok thanks [20:58] dhcp-client-daemon, hence dhcpcd [20:58] i used to have my old house networked with linux a few years ago [20:58] its been a while [20:58] arescorpio (~arescorpi@201.252.10.134) joined ##slackware. [20:59] btw, i can attest that -current works very well currently [20:59] especially with intel stuff.. my video throughput has become *much* better [20:59] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:59] cool [20:59] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:59] arescorpio (~arescorpi@201.252.10.134) left irc: Client Quit [21:00] anyone use slkbuild? [21:00] moistrous, with that arrandale intel chip,you might have better results with the newer 2.6.33 kernel and check intel's forum for more info [21:00] i get stutter free 1080p x264 video with subtitle overlays now [21:00] ie, porn? :> [21:00] subtitles on porn?!? [21:00] i like stutter in my pr0n [21:01] buh-buh-buh-bend over [21:01] anyhow, before it would be jerky at 720 if i enabled subtitles [21:01] ok i'm gonna go into the other room and plug this into the ineternet and try it [21:02] brb [21:02] roger [21:02] macavity, sup [21:02] i bought the slackware polo and the slackbook [21:02] hey beatzz :-) [21:02] how cool is that? [21:02] nice move! [21:03] word, very comfortable [21:03] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-14.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:03] is it a black polo? [21:03] yes [21:03] eww [21:03] good quality tho, very thick [21:04] i wouln't want it in any other color [21:04] (ok, black is technically not a color) [21:04] black shirts are about the dumbest thing ever invented imo [21:04] I have one and it is sharp and good quality. [21:04] well, the "invention" part aside, why a_small_dog? [21:04] because they are hot [21:05] ninjas would disagree [21:05] a_small_dog: soak them in vinegar for 24h before you wash it, and it will stay black [21:05] so would i [21:05] and i'm not a ninja [21:05] macavity, i read the whole book [21:05] finished it this morning. [21:05] do you remember what you read? ;-) [21:05] no but i highlighted it. [21:05] phantastic [21:06] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:06] in like 12 years...ive never read the slackbook :p [21:06] its very well writen [21:06] i read most of it [21:06] i read it on principle matter.. there was little there i didnt know [21:06] i have a large collection of linux books too [21:07] explains iptables very clearly [21:07] black shirt are good in winter coz they are hot and you seem slimmer after all the thing u eat during xmas [21:08] beatzz, if it explains iptables well, it's worth the price right there [21:08] indeed [21:08] im shure i will be refering to it later. [21:08] rworkman also has a very nice "companion" article on his site [21:09] the diagram on how the package flow through the builtin rules work was what did the trick for me [21:09] if the black shirt doesnt keep you warm enough in the winter, you can always burn the slackbook for heat [21:09] kevin01123 (~user@2002:4751:4123:1234:221:6bff:fe01:8106) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [21:10] moistrous (~moistrous@cpe-74-70-78-25.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: [21:10] moistrous (~moistrous@cpe-74-70-78-25.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:12] works especially well if you are wearing said black shirt when you burn the slackbook [21:13] if you are line of sight with the flames [21:14] stygian (~stygian@ppp-70-129-226-218.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Quit: brb [21:14] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.6) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:14] Ivshti (~ivo@77.76.50.154) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:14] jd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:14] jd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Changing host [21:14] jd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [21:16] I'm in a bit over my head. I'm trying to run the slackbuild for giblib, and getting this complaint that /lib/cpp is failing a sanity check. [21:17] moistrous (~moistrous@cpe-74-70-78-25.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [21:17] hd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [21:17] Action: ut is running a multilib -current, and using the 13.0 slackbuild [21:17] dont you have to set ARCH [21:18] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [21:18] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:18] config.log has several instances of "cpp: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory" [21:18] or something [21:18] i opened the .SlackBuild and changed the arch=i486 line to x86_64 [21:18] i wasn't thinking to compile it as a 32-bit executable. [21:18] or, library. whatever it is. [21:19] whats in /usr/lib/gcc/ [21:19] you did a full install or -current ? [21:19] *of [21:20] I did a full install of 13.0, and then used slackpkg to change to current. [21:20] and your slackpkg mirror was -current 64....right? [21:20] and you did slackpkg install-new as needed? [21:21] Action: ut is looking [21:21] i think i did install-new. i guess it's possible that i forgot last time. [21:22] /usr/libexec/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.4.3/cc1plus and /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.1/i486-linux-thread-multi/auto/POSIX/execvp.al look like candidates [21:23] yeah, there we are. it's pointed at a slackware64-current ftp site [21:23] teckan (~teckan@bl6-120-172.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:24] oh, i dont think you are missing neither cc1plus or execvp [21:24] strace -eopen it [21:24] to see what it IS looking for [21:24] i think its the file that cc1plus was trying to process [21:25] trhodes++ [21:25] would that be strace -eopen ./giblib.SlackBuild then? [21:25] i think so [21:25] the output will be ugly :) [21:25] wait, maybe not [21:25] it looks like mostly the config output with just a little extra [21:26] with -eopen, then, it may not be that bad [21:27] cpp couldn't execvp() cc1plus; now why is beyond me :/ [21:27] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [21:28] i'm crappy at actually fixing this stuff [21:28] http://pastebin.com/HgzNh5Y4 ought to be the output. [21:29] damn, it was probably a child of that process :( [21:30] i never have had luck with strace -F (it's slow) [21:30] ut: try running autoreconf, ./configure and make in the tree [21:30] ut: if an autoreconf gets this version of cpp right, just hack it into the slackbuild [21:31] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.199.108) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:31] i am 99% sure this will fix it [21:31] it dies during configure.. not make [21:38] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [21:38] alright. i popped into the /tmp/SBo/giblib-1.2.4/ dir, and autoreconf bombs out with "automake failed with exit status: 1", preceeded by Makefile.am not finding ./INSTALL, preceeded by giblib/Makefile.am not finding ./depcomp [21:39] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:40] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.45.46) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:40] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [21:41] moistrous (~moistrous@cpe-74-70-78-25.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:41] botnet (~void@c-24-19-69-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:42] Axius (~fd@92.84.19.76) joined ##slackware. [21:43] TheRea1 (~TheRea1@76.73.16.26) joined ##slackware. [21:45] ut reconf [21:45] run autoreconf [21:45] autoreconf bombs out with ... [21:46] does slack come with festival? [21:46] no [21:46] hmm [21:46] it's on SBo [21:46] flite the same thing as festival? [21:46] yeah [21:47] peacenik (~cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [21:47] peacenik (~cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:47] i've messed with both; flite seems more ready to go as is [21:47] i want my computer to talk to me... :) [21:48] haha yeah, links + awk + festival = fun [21:48] i can still pipe tts output right? [21:48] there seem to be several potentially interesting errors in config.log. would it help if i uploaded the whole file somewhere? [21:48] i haven't tried it, but I think you can [21:49] peacenik (~cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [21:49] frotz for those old if games is another nice app with flite/festival [21:49] ut: probably, it can't hurt [21:49] peacenik (cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left ##slackware. [21:49] has anyone had success with speech to text ? [21:50] sphinx is frustratin, and I found cvoicecontrol to be promising [21:50] peacenik (~cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [21:50] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:51] thumbs (1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:51] http://pastebin.com/h8NsJ3ic should be it. [21:52] who could refuse installing a program named "festival"? :-D [21:53] lol [21:53] trhodes: it works? [21:54] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:54] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] cvoicecontrol, no, but it's simpler than sphinx [21:55] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-209-128.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:55] it's just dead [21:55] so it doesnt work... [21:55] cmu has given their sphinx page an overhaul since I last saw it [21:55] no [21:55] sphinx is a bitch [21:55] sphinx was a beast to package [21:55] i tried setting up my last system with stt [21:55] and i probably didn't do very good [21:57] didn't work... i wanted to say "Computer, how do you feel?" and it tell me "Jack, I am currently 51C and have no processes hanging" [21:57] haha yeah [21:57] sphinx never could understand what I told it [21:58] Cann0n, caught your system on a good day,then?.....lol [21:59] sphinx2 was what I wanted to work [21:59] lol [21:59] yeah [21:59] i wanted foobillards to work... [21:59] but it's way too much [21:59] work [22:00] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [22:00] there are a lot of errors in ut's config.log [22:01] yeah... i didn't notice the earlier ones at first because i was searching for stuff related to the output of the ./configure [22:02] DURgod (~DURgod@24-236-174-174.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:05] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [22:05] anyone got foobillards working yet? [22:06] from sbo [22:07] bbiab [22:07] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-122-218.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:08] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-76-226.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:09] mayday_jay (~mayday_ja@noon.nas.net) joined ##slackware. [22:09] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-216-249.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [22:11] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.199.108) joined ##slackware. [22:11] ut: i hate to ask the obvious, but is your toolchain intact / can you build other software ? [22:12] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:12] that's a reasonable thing to ask. i was going to say yes, but i'm not quite positive, now that you mention it. i don't think i've built anything since last time i upgraded. [22:13] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-76-226.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:14] nope. it's broke. [22:16] ahh ;) [22:16] as to how fix it... ?! I duno [22:16] neonflux (~neonflux@ip67-152-80-252.z80-152-67.customer.algx.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:19] Action: ut grins [22:19] neonflux (~neonflux@ip67-152-80-252.z80-152-67.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [22:19] i might have to work on this another day... [22:19] thanks, though :) [22:20] yw [22:26] jd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:26] jd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:26] jd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Changing host [22:26] jd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [22:28] cato_ (~cato@c-174-58-219-35.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:28] thumbs (1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:29] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:31] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-136.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:32] macavity (~charlotte@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:35] beatzz (~beatzz@66-90-163-118.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:36] qt4 is taking longer to compile than it took man to arrive to the moon [22:37] Action: fire|bird queue's up "fly me to the moon" [22:40] mancha and requires heavier specs too. ;) [22:40] as in heavier HW? [22:40] depends how you're calculate it I suppose. [22:40] yeah, i think the apollo computers couldn't deal with qt :> [22:42] how do I something like, "ls | grep something | cp ~/media" [22:42] the comms would be something like: "Apollo please type 'make'" "Copy that, Houston" *STATIC* "Houton, we have a problem" [22:42] mancha: granted .. it would seem more like ##slackware. "Houston we have a problem " ... ".... you're gonna explain that one Apollo"? ;) [22:43] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] heh [22:45] isatto (~isatto@c9258ed9.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:46] isatto (isatto@c9258ed9.virtua.com.br) left ##slackware. [22:47] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-122-218.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:47] Prefect (~Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:52] Prefect (~Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. 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[22:58] Cann0n, for example to run dolphin as root and i get : [22:58] Cann0n, KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server [22:58] MLanden: nope [22:59] Cann0n, KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly. [22:59] trhodes: are you trying to do this in a script or just run a command? [22:59] tab failure [22:59] syntax_error: are you trying to do this in a script or just run a command? [22:59] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:59] bohunm (~mbohun@202.124.74.39) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:59] trhodes: flite works great [22:59] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.39) joined ##slackware. [22:59] Cann0n, on a terminal [23:00] syntax_error: what happens when you type su? [23:00] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-239.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [23:00] Cann0n, it ask me for passwrd and then i get the shell [23:01] Cann0n, from this root shell i call "dolphin" andi get the error before [23:01] root[~]$ ? [23:01] Cann0n, mousepad works great this way [23:01] hmm [23:02] Action: fhobia tries shutting down acpi and see if suspend still works [23:02] i don't know much about dolphin. what sounds like going on is the services required are in your user, when you may need root [23:02] i'm sure, because i don't use kdu [23:02] kde* [23:03] biker (~biker@201.170.186.15.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) joined ##slackware. [23:05] moistrous (~moistrous@cpe-74-70-78-25.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [23:06] fhobia, any log to troubleshoot from? [23:07] [yop] (~yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Quit: [yop] [23:07] MLanden: yeah, i think i just didn't understand how acpid's acpi_handler.sh works along with the scripts in the events directory [23:08] what worries me is some webpages say that acpid is no longer used [23:08] and its about hal and pm-utils [23:08] but when i turned off acpid, the hotkeys stopped working so [23:08] i guess i still use it [23:09] fhobia, ok....might be one of those quirks that show up in the forums [23:09] zed_DX (~kvirc@187.146.96.55) joined ##slackware. [23:10] moistrous (~moistrous@cpe-74-70-78-25.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:11] when in doubt, screw up conf files and see what happens ;] [23:11] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-239.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:12] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:12] Axius (~fd@92.84.19.76) joined ##slackware. [23:12] true [23:13] i'm checking forums as you suggested too, MLanden :-D [23:13] fhobia, good luck..hopefully,something will show up [23:14] fhobia, acpid is a daemon that runs and looks for events (like fn+f4), and performs an action that you define (like pm-utils) [23:14] yeah [23:14] it seems to be reporting that i don't have some acpi group and actions not defined [23:14] hal isn't related much to acpid. it will, however, help with the resume process [23:15] but then it goes on and does stuff anyway [23:15] this log message must be a red herring [23:15] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [23:16] fhobia: slackpkg new-config ? [23:16] ? [23:17] do you have new hal configs hanging around? find /etc/ -name "*.new" [23:19] Axius (~fd@92.84.19.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:19] fhobia: also have you checked "groups" for your user? [23:19] nope, but i think i solved the problem here [23:20] somehow i didn't get any messages in /var/log/acpid and i still don't [23:20] but when i ran it in debug mode [23:20] i found some errors relating to my scripts that get triggered when i press the buttons [23:20] i guess when it got those errors it then went on to acpi_handler.sh and printed the message saying nothing was defined for the event [23:21] wonder why my /var/log/acpid doesn't get filled in though :-( [23:21] that works [23:21] derf` (~derf@188.72.255.195) joined ##slackware. [23:21] dErFz (~derf@188.72.255.195) left irc: Write error: Broken pipe [23:21] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [23:21] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [23:22] hehe i like how i can test suspend to ram and if i come back quick enough i can still chat [23:22] nice error recovery :-DD [23:22] fhobia: you can add a log option in /etc/rc.d/rc.acpid if its possible to have a log.... [23:23] syntax_error (~sineror@host190-112-dynamic.33-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:23] -l i guess, i dont know what the default location would be [23:23] yeah, i'm not having any luck with -l strangely [23:23] did you check in /var/run/ [23:24] theres an acpid.pid and acpid.socket= in there [23:24] not that it would make sense, but i see shit in there :p [23:25] hmm interesting [23:25] other than the two files i just mentioned ? [23:26] aperturefever (~abell@athedsl-204285.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:26] there probably isnt anything but there are directories like hald directory, nothing of interest maybe [23:26] aperturefever (~abell@athedsl-192865.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [23:26] hhm ok [23:27] going to try my fixed pm-suspend-hibernate script now [23:27] i think log events goes to syslog [23:27] based on the acpid manpage [23:30] Axius (~fd@92.84.19.76) joined ##slackware. [23:34] biker (~biker@201.170.186.15.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:35] keanne (~riken@124.106.44.139) joined ##slackware. [23:35] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:36] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:37] r1m4nn (~riemann@41.104.91.68) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:37] well, i don't know whats wrong with the logging, but i'm going to employ the solution of "do nothing" and move on [23:37] i got the rest of it fixed so :-) [23:37] logging goes to syslog [23:38] but maybe not for script errors [23:38] veritos (~veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:38] yeah, thats what i want though :-( [23:38] biker (~biker@201.170.186.15.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) joined ##slackware. [23:38] syslog == /var/log/messages ? [23:38] /var/log/syslog ? [23:38] Cann0n: yeah, flite is ready to go as is :) [23:39] Is -current currently (no pun intended) in a usable state, or are there any noticeable problems that I might encounter? [23:39] a_small_dog: lol i see it now, thanks [23:39] i'm trying to get my xfce mail watcher plugin working with it [23:40] i want "Holy shit. You have Mail." [23:40] well, not the errors, but i see a ton of shit [23:40] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.124.196) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:40] grepped them and no errors found [23:40] oh well [23:40] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:41] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.63.193) joined ##slackware. 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[23:47] fhobia, look at the --same-as option [23:48] oh, ha ha, i was trying to use the pos arguments [23:49] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:49] haha pos works [23:49] same-as probably cleaner though [23:50] anyway, i'm doing this to trick youtube into properly going full screen [23:50] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [23:50] otherwise it reads the dimensions wrong and shows huge blackspace at the top and bottom of videos :-/ [23:51] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:51] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [23:51] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [23:51] it's all a scam to get people to buy 16:9 aspect minitors [23:51] brokedown (~not@unaffiliated/dedhed) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:51] monitors* [23:51] hehe [23:52] i'd probably still connect another monitor up to it...even if i had 16:9 [23:53] i bought an asus ms238h and was done with it.. a hdmi 1080p rated screen for $200 USD shipped ?/? [23:53] >.> [23:53] Axius (~fd@92.84.19.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [23:54] hi [23:54] I am trying to install compiz from slackbuilds.org [23:55] but when compiling a file, it throws me this error: [23:55] checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation! [23:55] but I have installed qt 3.3.2 [23:55] and google doesnt help =/ [23:56] any idea? :) [23:57] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [23:57] search slackbuilds and compile the qt from there (if you havent already) [23:59] Gartral, on slackbuilds there isnt qt3, just qt4 [23:59] if you want to use qt4 in 2011 start compiling it in 2010 [23:59] lol [00:00] --- Mon Mar 15 2010