[00:00] siimo: its eth1_start [00:00] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [00:00] briareus (n=briareus@ip24-251-35-116.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:01] for some reson i get: grep: /proc/net/wireless: No such file or directory [00:01] oh.... what does iwconfig eth1 say [00:02] no wireless extensions [00:02] i have no wireless but i moved this install from a wireless system [00:02] what the fudge. [00:02] oh. heh [00:02] ummm lets see now... [00:03] check /etc/modprobe.d/ /etc/udev/rules.d/ /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf for funky wireless settings [00:03] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:04] you might have a modprobe set up for a wireless driver for a specific device name, and a udev rule to go with it. and inet1.conf might have some wireless specific stuff for eth1 [00:05] hmm got it working [00:05] all i had to do was set DHCP = yes for eth1 [00:05] oh there you go. [00:05] THe installer should have taken care of that. [00:06] frullet: you need to read the backlog to understand why that is wrong. [00:06] my next issue is the X hardlocking, this system has got a nvidia card so i am using nv and it does load up my desktop but locks up immediately [00:06] siimo: using an xorg.conf obviously, can you pastebin it for me? [00:08] hmm how do i do this, i am too noob to use pastebin without getting into X [00:08] /j #arduino [00:08] siimo: scp xorg.conf user@anothercomputer'sip:/some/dir/ [00:09] askhader (n=askhader@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:10] Anyone have a Radeon HD3200 card? [00:10] ok hang on [00:10] askhader: i'm sure quite a few people. do you have any specific queries [00:10] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-253-082.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [00:11] spook: http://pastebin.com/m3fb6b18d [00:11] gerrh^^ (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. 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[00:14] I [00:14] siimo: try commenting out the input sections [00:14] I'm feeling like I am becoming a computer freak [00:14] askhader: thats pretty weird looking, can you pastebin your xorg.conf [00:14] dissociative: thats great, join the club! [00:14] dissociative: cheers :P [00:15] all inpit sections?? [00:15] init[1]: right now I'm looking for gcc-avr and avr-libc. also sun-java6-jre (I'm going off of this: http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Learning/Linux ) [00:15] all that I do the day is spend time in front of computers and internetz [00:15] siimo: line 29 to line... 62 [00:15] ah, avr-gcc and avr-libc are in slackbuild [00:15] and it is like they are sucking my whole life [00:15] briareus: i think now you got what i meant :) [00:15] dissociative: they are [00:15] I will die happy [00:16] init[1]: I suppose sun is somewhere in slackbuild ? [00:16] nix4me (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [00:16] dissociative: not as bad as me though :) [00:16] bad? [00:16] dissociative: warn you do social with people keep away from computers :) personal experience [00:16] i'm even more hardcore. [00:16] spook: then i get a parsing error Undefined Input device Keyboard[0] etc [00:17] spook: I think being more into computers "all day" than dissociative means more like soft-core than hardcore [00:17] siimo: oh, line 7-9 [00:17] briareus: doesn't JRE goes withing the default Slackware install ? [00:17] nix4me (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Client Quit [00:17] init[1]: maybe it does! I dunno [00:17] s/within [00:17] huh! [00:17] init[1]: never needed it before right now [00:17] spook: http://pastebin.ca/index.php [00:18] briareus: it is installed :) [00:18] shweet [00:18] well, at least for my purposes, sweet [00:18] spook: ok i tried that and the same thing happens, X starts and locks up.. theres a mouse cursor in the middle that wont move and any keyboard combinations like ctrl+alt+bkspace dont work [00:18] siimo: nv isnt the official nvidia driver. xorg would autodetect and use that anyway. [00:18] I just got my arduino so I'm going to start integrating it into my robotics projects [00:18] briareus: slackpkg search jre [00:18] briareus: cool, [00:18] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:18] briareus: no but i have a life too :) [00:18] briareus: how much did that cost you [00:19] init[1]: 50 bucks or so [00:19] spook: are you aware of any side effects of running 'find' every 5 mins from cron ? [00:20] spook: Any ideas? Should that device driver be set as fglrx instead? [00:20] init[1]: how long does it take find to run? :) [00:20] init[1]: I got this kit: https://secure.robotshop.ca/arduino-experimentation-kit.html [00:20] init[1]: I have a ton of components for my other electronics projects, so this kit is just... edumacational [00:21] askhader: using slackware 13.0 you should just need the device section. [00:22] spook: it searches my /home/ for certain patterns of file and removes them [00:22] siimo: askhader this is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/1670847 thats the ENTIRE file. [00:22] i mean every 3 mins :P [00:22] sadsfae (n=sadsfae@funcamp.net) joined ##slackware. [00:22] init[1]: any reason why you're doing that? [00:23] spook: i'm running short of space (~10GB of home),when i want certain files to me remove it queue them for sweeping with extention .sep [00:23] Hmm I'll try it [00:23] s/files to me/to be removed/ [00:24] init[1]: why not just rm them... [00:24] init[1]: also, gotta be careful with your match criteria :P [00:25] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:25] spook: there are plenty of downloaded files selecting them as a whole its PITA ,when i see a file i don't need i queue them ,well this may seems strange but seems to work fine for me :) [00:25] init[1]: maybe every 30 minutes might be better. [00:25] spook: hm, [00:26] ok, so frequent run of find may create issues ? [00:27] find {/tmp/*,/home/buffer/*} -name '*.sep' -exec rm -Rv '{}' \; [00:27] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "-" [00:28] init[1]: not issues, just like, if running that takes more than 3 minutes you might start to have simultanious instances. [00:29] spook: but cron says it doesn't run simultanious instances if intervel overlap [00:29] init[1]: if you wanted to be super tricky, write a script that checks if a file exists, if not it touches it and runs your find line, then when its done it removes the file. [00:29] init[1]: thats a good point too. [00:29] init[1]: nvm me then :P [00:30] doesn't someone here run google chrome? i want to check it out, but i'm not sure of hte easiest way to load it up on slack [00:30] hey spook how do i make my eth1 network start on bootup? [00:30] spook: ah ok, :) ty [00:31] siimo: it should anyway if rc.inet1 is executable and rc.inet1.conf is configured correctly [00:31] amazon10x: last i checked its pending on slackbuilds.org [00:31] lordkelmain (n=lordkelm@ip68-5-13-113.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:31] init[1]: i'm proud of you, you checked this out for yourself. [00:32] oh :D [00:32] spook: So I created a xorg.conf with only the 'device' section. But X11 won't even start now. I get the error "(EE) fglrx(0): Given depth (8) is not supported by the fglrx driver. (EE) fglrx 0: PreInit fail [00:32] spook: any way i can get at it? [00:33] amazon10x: not yet. [00:33] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:33] askhader: look for DefaultDepth [00:33] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [00:33] and set it to 32 or 24 [00:34] dissociative: I don't have a defaultdept line section or line. I only have the 'Device' section [00:34] What's less resource intensive, vsftpd or proftpd? [00:34] the DefaultDepth goes in the Screen section [00:35] askhader: currently researching this for you. [00:35] spook: Thanks [00:35] Also trying other things [00:35] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [00:36] hey guys I still havent found a new way to make fun out of slackware [00:37] or I would get an old laptop and put slackware on it and use only text terminal [00:38] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:40] I think that the most fun was learning to administer slackware [00:40] askhader: google ati xorg.conf slackware 13 first result. [00:41] spook: Googling [00:41] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:41] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@80-123-57-229.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:42] you shoudl be abel to use your 12.2 xorg.conf for ati with 13 [00:43] i did for a while it worked fine [00:43] im trying to allow local and remote machines to access mysql on my ip but i get this error "Can't connect to MySQL server on " [00:43] toastytoast: uh, yes and no. works for some, but not all. [00:43] wella tm this is what i ahve in my xorg.conf [00:43] http://pastebin.com/m60aeb23d [00:43] oobe: okay. what have you done to setup mysql so far? [00:44] toastytoast: i dont doubt you can do it, but while googling just then i saw plenty of people who tried to do that but had lots of problems. [00:44] the oen i linked is the one i ahd in 13 [00:44] 12.2* [00:45] oobe: line 32 of /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld might be a good start. [00:45] triplc (n=dizi@118.71.1.249) joined ##slackware. [00:46] triplc (n=dizi@118.71.1.249) left irc: Client Quit [00:46] that is i belive waht ati-config --intial writes to your xorg.conf [00:46] spook, thanks i didnt look at the script [00:47] xorg seems to take care of the rest of it with out anything in xorg.conf [00:47] oobe: to get mysqld running in the first place requires you read the script :P [00:47] toastytoast: except in the cases where the ati binary driver no longer supports their hardware due to mesa, xorg etc being different versions. [00:48] my friend is useing an x1650 with the radeonhd drivers on his desktop and a radeon x1350 on his laptop [00:48] toastytoast: um, okay? [00:48] he says they work pretty well [00:48] alexzyp (n=ping@58.254.92.222) joined ##slackware. [00:49] toastytoast: you're really not listening, i'm telling you, yes it works. but it doesnt work for EVERYONE/ [00:49] spook, i havent used slackware for years im just getting used to it again [00:49] oobe: grats :) [00:49] if he is useing older hard ware he should use the radeon hd drivers if he is useing any thing newer than hdX the newest propriataryati drivers should work [00:49] ok [00:50] had to do one small thing after that now its all sweet [00:50] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [00:51] habaneros (n=habanero@97.102.252.147) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:52] otho (n=otho@unaffiliated/otho) joined ##slackware. [00:53] i've never had a problem with the ati drivers for linux and for somereason everyone else has [00:53] oobe: also, to be able to login, your grant table will need 'username'@* i think it is, instead of @'localhost' [00:53] and even the ones who get them working still complain about haw nvidea is better even tho since ati is helping witht he opensource driver (which are coeing aloing even if rahter slowly) its still a big step forward on atis part [00:54] toastytoast: only problem I had was they droped support for my card in my laptop that was less than 2 years old [00:54] oobe: or rather, need them both :P [00:54] in the proprietary driver [00:54] spook, yea thanks i had all that done before i asked [00:54] thats why i was puzzled [00:54] the nvidia binary driver is years ahead of the ati one. [00:55] nvidea drops supports for older cards as well [00:55] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [00:56] ati dropped some pretty recent cards, but at least the open source drivers are coming around [00:57] ati dropped the x1k series and anythign older [00:57] those cards were still being sold in systems less than a year ago [00:57] Axius (n=fd@92.82.75.110) joined ##slackware. [00:57] my friend complains aboiut it to but they also have support for there hd1x series already in the propritery drivers i belive [00:57] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@80.123.50.99) joined ##slackware. [00:58] hd5x* [00:58] they also dropped support for them in windows whihc makes me think it was fair [00:58] but i have different opinions than other people and other people ahve differnet opinions than me [00:59] it made me swore to never by ati again, I'll stick with nvidia, although I have no complaints about the actual ati cards [00:59] so even tho i respect your right to your opinion i rlly don't think it was rlly that big of a shock i saw soemthing liek it happeneing [01:00] so since ati dropped support for a card you ahd you get a new nvidea card which nvidea will eventually drop support for [01:00] I am glad there is two major players that keep compition and inovation going strong [01:00] Budd^ (n=budd@adsl-75-54-117-105.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "BitchX: the IRC client with hair on it's balls" [01:00] one nvidea dropps support for that card will you go back to ati ? [01:01] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:01] this is going to be a good excuse to relearn C/C++ again (this microcontroller) [01:01] toastytoast: I have an nvidia card 5 years old still supported [01:01] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [01:01] hi* [01:02] and the drivers they provide for older cards still work too, got a tnt2 that still works with their drivers that is over 10 years old [01:02] hi g4tt0 [01:03] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:03] y0 Rat409 [01:03] yo firebird [01:03] Rat409: how's it going? [01:04] lordkelmain (n=lordkelm@ip68-5-13-113.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:04] good but i guess this mrxvt-utf-8 isn't. fine otherwise [01:04] Rat409: Any idea why weechat isn't autojoining the channels I have set? [01:04] close enough anyways. [01:05] fighting with ntpd bout ready ro rm it install openntpd [01:05] lordkelmain (n=lordkelm@ip68-5-13-113.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:05] eddo (n=eddojh@200.23.135.193) joined ##slackware. [01:06] hi everybody! [01:06] fire|bird: you have to use /set and save changes. only a small portion of config will not be overwritten by weechat iirc [01:07] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.22.211) left irc: "leaving" [01:07] anyone know of some nice rc.d scripts to connect wireless [01:07] and 0.2.x configs aren't compat with newest 3.x versions [01:07] Budd^ (n=budd@adsl-75-54-117-105.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:07] i want it to run at the same time as working [01:07] well as far as i'm concerned ati made a judgement call seeing how most of the older cards are supported with radeonhd drivers in linux and the older drivers in windows still works they decided to drop support for the older 1kX series so they can focus on the newer cards and makeing better drivers for the newercards [01:07] Rat409: yeah, that's what I've done and set: irc.server.freenode.autojoin to the channels I want it to autojoin, and they are separated by a "," [01:07] and better drivers over all [01:08] Rat409: No old configs around, only 0.3.0 [01:08] fire|bird: should be another like autojoin = 1 or such,i'm in irssi atm [01:08] eddo (n=eddojh@200.23.135.193) left irc: Client Quit [01:08] toastytoast: I wish them well indeed, I hope they find a way to become profitable [01:08] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-72-82-76-104.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:08] brb [01:09] hey MLanden [01:09] heya,fire|bird [01:09] heya,slackers [01:09] found it dont worry /etc/rc.d/rc.wireless.conf [01:09] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [01:10] oobe: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf and scroll to the bottom rc.wireless is depreciated. [01:11] thanks got it [01:11] im liking slackware current [01:12] one reason i started using other distros was i loved apt and newer software but current is very up to date and of course simpler and easier in the long run [01:13] except when mysql updates in -current and all your 3rd party software breaks. [01:13] hello fire|bird [01:14] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "I'm not a quitter, I just had to go" [01:15] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@59.181.128.74) joined ##slackware. [01:15] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@59.181.128.74) left irc: Client Quit [01:17] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: "Leaving" [01:17] spook, i have a script that already works to connect my wireless where can i put that to make it run at same time as other networking services [01:18] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [01:18] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:18] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn-164.95-102-85.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [01:18] rc.local seems the obvious place, but that runs after everything else. [01:18] Rat409: fixed it, I had a space between the channel names and the "," [01:19] yea spook i want it to run before sql and mythbackend [01:20] yup in *nix,syntax is everything :P [01:20] indeed :) [01:20] oobe: i suggest just biting the bullet and setting it up in rc.inet1.conf [01:20] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left ##slackware. [01:20] or use wicd [01:21] Rat409: yes and no. [01:21] logic is good too [01:21] Rat409: from my experience wicd doesnt do much of anything until a client is hooked it up to it. [01:22] indeed,yuh depends what you reqire [01:22] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:22] Rat409: wireless connecting before mysql and mythbackend start. [01:22] ahhh [01:22] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:23] j #lopsa [01:23] Rat409: but you know, its not like you could have just read up :) [01:23] Grr, I typed a / I thought [01:23] Rat409, omg how can wicd configure wireless during boot services [01:23] Tell it to automatically connect to a network. [01:23] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [01:24] Then it will on boot. [01:24] NaCl: even then i've seen problems. but is rc.wicd set to execute before mysql mythbackend? :P [01:26] spook, the init scripts are human-readable [01:26] and wicd comes first [01:26] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:27] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:27] rc.M:169 (wicd) versus rc.M:319 (mysql) [01:27] spook: wireless connections take time to initialize [01:28] impy (n=impy@88.147.64.235) joined ##slackware. [01:28] veritos: these were questions the interested parties were meant to work out for themselves... [01:29] NaCl: yeah. [01:29] spook, oh ok, i obviously jumped in halfway [01:29] sorry [01:34] spook, can i use multiple gateways in inet1.conf or should i use inet1 and inet2 [01:34] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-253-082.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:35] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:35] Nick change: giuppy_ -> giuppy [01:35] oobe: uh... think about that question again. [01:35] spook, im using different subnets for 2 different network devices [01:35] sorry i didnt make that too clear [01:36] if you dont know thats alright im reading up now [01:36] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-23-29.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [01:36] yeah, the routes are setup automatically. the gateway is the default route to use when no other routes can be used [01:37] adrenaline (n=repsol@tuxhacker/adrenaline) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:38] oobe: my answer to wether you can have two gateways is no, because it doesnt make sense. [01:40] darylc (n=darylc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:40] of course it doesnt if your only using one network [01:40] but i think i got it [01:41] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [01:42] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [01:43] whats the difference between kernel-headers-2.6.29.6_smp-x86-2 and kernel-firmware-2.6.29.6-noarch-2 [01:43] are one of these actually the C headers unrelated to the kernel [01:44] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:45] oobe: no, even with two subnets it makes no sense. [01:45] simplex: the name for one ;) 2) read the slack-desc that should tell you enough [01:46] Axius (n=fd@92.82.75.110) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [01:46] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:47] so fire|bird you tested opensuse? [01:47] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left ##slackware. [01:48] Rat409: yeah, on the laptop with the gnome live cd. [01:48] liked it,i saw a review,said gnome 3.o shell preview? [01:48] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:49] Rat409: I didn't see a gnome-shell preview (if it's like Fedora and Ubuntu, you have to install it) but I was quite impressed, it's very nice. [01:49] cool [01:49] aigon (n=jfo@92.82.75.110) joined ##slackware. [01:50] darylc (n=darylc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) left irc: "Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi" [01:50] Rat409: http://imagebin.org/71504 [01:50] looking [01:51] that's openSUSE's gnome desktop, but kde4 is the default desktop. [01:52] yuh,its green :). not bad tho [01:52] yeah, quite green, but it looks really nice. [01:52] fire|bird: What's you think about banshee? [01:53] MLanden: It's a great music player, wish it didn't need mono. :P [01:53] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:53] fire|bird: true [01:55] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [01:59] MLanden: aside from that, it is a very nice music player. [01:59] aigon (n=jfo@92.82.75.110) left irc: "Leaving" [01:59] fire|bird: thought so too...bloated but nice...muine's nice as well [02:00] MLanden: yeah, exaile isn't bad either. [02:00] spook, thanks for all your help you saved me a lot of time [02:01] morning :) [02:01] Mornin' camarade_tux [02:02] y0 Camarade_Tux [02:02] oobe: np [02:03] fyi i may not need 2 gateways but as far as i know this is the best way for an obscure setup that is necessary [02:03] i could net use inet.conf to allow fot hat so i added my script to the tail end of rc.inet1 [02:03] and it works great [02:06] oobe: when you setup the addresses on each interface, the routing table automatically has the proper routes added. the default gateway is for traffic that is not destined for any currently defined/routed places. [02:07] fef (n=feyner@cpe-173-168-249-106.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [02:08] all i know is i have one wired connecting to a router and one unwired connecting to a different router and if both use same gateway one cant connect to the other net and vice versa [02:08] alexzyp (n=ping@58.254.92.222) left ##slackware. [02:08] what? draw a diagram and try explaining it again. [02:08] so my routing table looks like this http://pastebin.ca/1670900 [02:10] the reason i have it all messed up like this is cause i use wireless-n to stream video to another computer [02:10] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "sleep is something i may need from time to time... like now" [02:10] which interface actually goes out to the internet? [02:10] that doesnt make sense. [02:10] lordkelmain (n=lordkelm@ip68-5-13-113.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:11] anyway i have one more small problem i added a script to /etc/rc.d/rc.mythbackend and did chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.mythbackend but it doesnt run on boot but calling it manually does work [02:11] is there somthing special i need to do before it works [02:11] how did you install mythtv? [02:13] having two default gateways with the same metric is asking for trouble. [02:13] SiegeX: :) [02:19] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [02:19] lordkelmain (n=lordkelm@ip68-5-13-113.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:20] spook, i just built the svn fixes branch [02:20] i used /usr/local prefix so i changed the paths in the script [02:21] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [02:32] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:33] kleanchap (n=kleancha@93.195.21.118) joined ##slackware. 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[03:45] hello [03:45] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:45] Heya, godling [03:46] hi godling [03:47] MLanden: google is looking to replace, or at least change http to make it faster, it would be named spdy. :P [03:47] it's not gonna replace it [03:47] it's gonna try to replace it [03:47] hope they fail [03:49] wouldn't matter...your browser translates where everything goes [03:50] MLanden: imagine things being spdy:// :P [03:50] MLanden: http://mashable.com/2009/11/12/google-spdy/ [03:50] the horror [03:50] lol...like Alka-Seltzer...:P [03:50] the YAY Pepto-Bismol [03:51] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-189.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:53] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.155.101) joined ##slackware. [03:53] Let Me Make That Speedy For You....don't have the same ring..:P [03:53] haha [03:55] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.130.179) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [04:00] re [04:00] anyone has SVN server with SSL auth enabled on it ? [04:01] Well, time to go. Later guys. Take care. :) [04:01] later,fire|bird [04:01] see ya MLanden [04:03] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [04:05] how do i change crontab to use a different default editor [04:05] check out my new linux forum http://www.createforum.com/linuxsociety/ [04:05] oobe, join it [04:07] Take care,slackers....talk with all later...:D [04:07] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-72-82-76-104.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Life is the greatest source...Seek it out and see how it compiles" [04:08] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [04:10] Emeau_ (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-14-173.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:17] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [04:19] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-108-219.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [04:19] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.52.166) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [04:20] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-108-219.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [04:22] what's pop3 ssl port? 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[04:34] you should let them type the full path to sbin commands [04:34] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:34] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [04:35] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [04:35] oobe: you can set your path in .bashrc or .profile, or wherever you want :) [04:36] StevenR (n=foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:43] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.76.46.130) joined ##slackware. [04:44] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [04:44] I want to install Slackware on a single 20GB partition and I need a solution to create a separate /home to be encrypted. Also, how could I make a swap? a File? [04:47] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:49] Azeotrope, both are possible i cant walk you through it [04:49] but you can make a swap file and add it to fstab [04:49] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.253.42.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [04:49] then create and encrypted fs on a separate partition for you home dir [04:50] candinho (n=candinho@201-13-157-251.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [04:52] goood morning [04:52] jeagoss (i=jef@173.172.197.134) left irc: "Gone Indefinitely" [04:54] candinho (n=candinho@201-13-157-251.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [04:54] hi [04:55] bah [04:55] :P [04:55] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.155.101) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:58] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [05:00] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@80.123.50.99) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [05:00] rc1138 (n=rc1138@ip68-228-254-141.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [05:01] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.66.251) joined ##slackware. [05:01] rc1138 (n=rc1138@ip68-228-254-141.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:05] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [05:08] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:09] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [05:11] does ext4 do encryption? [05:11] fatalnix1995_ (n=Fatalnix@spirit.georgix.info) joined ##slackware. [05:11] t0f: no [05:11] ok thanks [05:11] hardly any filesystem does [05:12] ext2 does, no? [05:12] i know certain setups support encrypted fs in linux [05:12] not sure which it is [05:12] t0f: of course not [05:12] sadsfae (n=sadsfae@funcamp.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:12] hm, ok [05:12] it's easy to have an _encrypted fs_ on linux, that's completely another issue [05:13] fatalnix1995 (n=Fatalnix@spirit.georgix.info) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:13] sadsfae (n=sadsfae@funcamp.net) joined ##slackware. [05:13] i'll have to do some more reading (: [05:13] read about LUKS [05:14] ok [05:16] ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-13.0/README_CRYPT.TXT [05:16] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:20] ananke: actually, Encrypt-FS is an attribute option for ext2/3/4, xfs, jfs, reiser4 [05:20] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.155.252) joined ##slackware. [05:21] nyRednek: that doesn't make those filesystems encrypted [05:22] ananke: not necessarily by default, but it does allow for the entire filesystem to be encrypted, depending on settings(directory/file names, content) [05:22] LOL_WAR (n=hump@cpe-24-243-2-102.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:22] hai im wondering [05:23] is this best linux version for cheapest? [05:23] my friend is willing to sell me this dystro for about 200 [05:23] is there cheaper place for me plz? [05:23] great. where are the ops these days? [05:23] LOL_WAR: you gotta be kidding me.... [05:23] nyRednek: i'd be interested in seeing documentation that talks how to use that on those filesystems. never seen or heard of it [05:23] rude. [05:23] can you help or not [05:24] LOL_WAR: linux, is, by and large, free [05:24] uh free? [05:24] not everyone likes to pirate software [05:24] i want a legitimate copy [05:24] nyRednek: you're engaging a notorious troll [05:24] ananke: ah, ok... [05:24] notorious? this is my first time on freenode [05:24] im from efnet [05:24] how am i notorious already and wat is a troll? [05:24] sounds lol [05:25] linux was never "free" in either sense of the word. You may have had downloaded Linux onto your computer for free but someone paid for it. In my case, does anyone know how I can trade child porn with other Linux enthusiasts. Hit me back. [05:25] I'd advise the use of /ignore. [05:25] Tabmow (i=terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) joined ##slackware. [05:25] dont listen to that idiot he doesnt even have an understandable or pronouncable nick [05:25] obviously HE is the troll. i'm here for legitimate conversation. [05:26] LOL_WAR: i see you've been reading the sco pages again...i'd suggest you read the FSF manifesto...linux isn't, for the most part, commercial, but is, legally, free to download, from those who released differing distributions of it [05:26] obvious troll is obvious [05:26] and with that, if he trolls, i'll stop feeding [05:27] nyRednek: you fell for it. tsk [05:28] ananke: i know...i just can't help myself sometimes [05:29] everyone likes to have a pet (: [05:29] Action: KB1JWQ hands nyRednek a /ignore [05:29] candinho (n=candinho@201-13-157-251.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:30] you guys keep calling me names [05:30] you wont like the consequences. [05:30] LOL_WAR: kthxbai [05:30] < ddos king. [05:31] ananke: there was one guy who i met offline who was asking me where to find an authorized linux distributor so he wouldn't be charged with copyright infringement [05:31] ananke: and he cited sco group's press releases concerning such [05:31] nyRednek: That's just sad. [05:31] i handed him a copy of the gpl and a cd, told him $5 for making the cd and printout...he was happy for years with that [05:31] nyRednek: successful fud campaign [05:32] nr nice story plz stop interupting the chan, ok? [05:32] lol [05:32] Ishmael (n=ishmael@189.96.57.49) joined ##slackware. [05:32] Emeau_ (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-14-173.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [05:32] candinho (n=candinho@201-13-157-251.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [05:33] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-14-173.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [05:33] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.76.46.130) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:33] i will get a mIRC cop to remove you. [05:33] tabmow is my boy now [05:33] LOL_WAR: For the last time, please desist. [05:33] mirc? can someone ctcp request port 0 on this guy? [05:33] will you please stop talking to me w/e the hell your name is [05:34] nyRednek: Please don't do that on this network. :-) [05:34] lets just call KB1JWQ Bob from now on [05:34] so we can pronounce his nick [05:34] ye ayea bob [05:34] w/e you say bob [05:34] KB1JWQ: ok, i won't [05:34] nyRednek: Much appreiated. [05:34] KB1JWQ: was just pointing out how weak mirc is in the irc world [05:35] nyRednek: That exploit doesn't do what you think it does; go research. :-) [05:35] KB1JWQ: probably not... [05:35] khaled mardem-bay is my hero [05:35] KB1JWQ: it's been a while since i played with mirc, and his version is newer [05:35] ok? [05:36] KB1JWQ: been using either xchat or irssi(depending on my mood) for a long while [05:36] ny you dont wanna mess with me im over 6'1 and weight in at just over 215 pounds [05:36] eddojh (n=eddojh@200.23.135.193) joined ##slackware. [05:36] So now that slackware has an official 64 bit arch, does that mean slamd64 is going to just fade away? [05:37] t (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) left irc: "Quitting" [05:37] KB1JWQ: i think so... [05:37] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:37] Kind of a shame, a lot of people put some good work into that distro. :-) [05:37] KB1JWQ: i see bluewhite went in a direction completely away from slack [05:37] whys #LOL unavailable [05:38] on a serious note of course [05:38] you're not funny enough [05:38] t (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) joined ##slackware. [05:38] dont be rude [05:38] t my boy is here [05:38] nyRednek: Ah well. More room for FreeBSD. :-) [05:38] hey t why is #lol unavailable [05:39] is this network the anti lol? [05:39] KB1JWQ: well, there's quite a bit of slamd64 inspiration, and some code, in slackware64 [05:40] KB1JWQ: in other words, slamd64 wasn't a fruitless effort...lead to the mainstreaming of 64 bit on slack [05:40] True enough, nyRednek [05:40] KB1JWQ: and, thanks to fred and alienbob, it's also multilib [05:40] \Ooh. [05:41] KB1JWQ: alienbob's multilib isn't quite the same as the slamd c/ series, but it's pretty close [05:42] and the convertpkg-compat32 script was originally fred's [05:43] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [05:43] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@66.160.141.30 [05:43] gdi kb1jwq [05:43] you in every channel? [05:43] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [05:44] lol [05:44] kb1jwq = anti lol :( [05:44] im gonna have to proxy scan [05:44] brb [05:45] chee_ (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [05:45] chee_: heya [05:48] LOL_WAR (n=hump@cpe-24-243-2-102.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: K-lined [05:50] despiron (n=despiron@187.64.16.88) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:50] thanks :) [05:51] who k-lined him^Wit btw? [05:51] oh, tom :) [05:58] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn-164.95-102-85.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. 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[06:19] you're on the internet. seriously. type that in googles [06:20] kleanchap (n=kleancha@93.195.21.118) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [06:21] timeanddate.com [06:22] or justfuckinggoogleit.com [06:23] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:23] packeteer: nah, screw google [06:24] firefox uses gtk, right? so i have to change gtk theme apart from kde themes? how to do this? is there a thing similiar to 'gtk2-switch' gtk-theme-switch (i cant remember exactly)? [06:27] masterx831: worldtimeserver.com [06:27] timeanddate.com isn't bad either. [06:27] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.73.13) joined ##slackware. [06:28] MooKimchi (n=kimchi@61.43.249.3) joined ##slackware. [06:30] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166060135.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:30] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-108-219.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [06:31] maybe with /exec [06:31] Axius (n=ade@92.85.219.31) joined ##slackware. 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[06:38] at ifconfig [06:38] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.180) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:38] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:39] josteint_ (n=josteint@84.215.36.243) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [06:39] iwconfig [06:41] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:41] iwconfig appears only eth0 and lo, and both with 'no wireless extensions' [06:41] Axius (n=ade@92.85.219.31) left irc: "Leaving" [06:41] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn-164.95-102-85.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [06:44] i was talkign abotu /exec [06:44] Nick change: wertik_rus -> wertik_work [06:48] eddo, kernel can't see the device. support for this device might not have been installed in the kernel [06:49] well, guys, i think another window manager has wrestled me from my beloved fvwm [06:50] rfdrew, how can i fix that? [06:50] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.34.252) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:56] rfdrew: I can display your question properly here, but I can't read it, better ask in english ;-) [06:56] eddo: which card? [06:57] eddo, In the directory /usr/src/linux there is kernel source. [06:57] make menuconfig [06:58] Camarade_Tux: Intel Wifi Link 1000 BGN [06:58] add your whireles card [06:58] ok let me see [06:59] skysong (n=indecent@41.136.196.73) joined ##slackware. [07:00] slackie_ (n=x@87-196-229-60.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:01] Nick change: moh2a -> mohaa [07:04] eddo: is it brand new hardware? [07:04] slackie (n=x@87.196.227.78) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [07:05] http://www.createforum.com/linuxsociety/ [07:05] lackware 12.1. was installed. beep software was downloaded and compiled. but it doesn't beep through the system dynamic. what is the problem? and where should i look for it? [07:05] Kidpunkx: ok, that's almost becoming spam now [07:06] rfdrew: "beep software"? what's that? [07:06] well its not [07:06] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [07:07] Camarade_Tux: i don't think so [07:08] http://johnath.com/beep/ [07:08] ah, found it in the kernel, seems quite recent [07:09] MooKimchi (n=kimchi@61.43.249.3) left irc: "Leaving" [07:09] eddo: is there an "iwlagn" module loaded (check with 'lsmod |grep iwlagn') [07:10] slackie (n=x@87.196.203.254) joined ##slackware. [07:11] Camarade_Tux: nothing appears [07:11] Camarade_Tux: do you know where the .desktop files are that gdm and kdm look for to give desktop choices? [07:11] hey guys, is there some sort of package manager for slackware like the apt-get of debian? [07:12] e01 (n=OSCorp01@77.70.127.155) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:12] skysong: slackpkg [07:12] skysong: and sbopkg [07:12] eddo: try to run 'modprobe iwlagn' (as root/sudo) [07:12] thanks nyRednek ill look into that [07:12] :) [07:12] nyRednek: no idea, using startx here :P [07:12] Action: Camarade_Tux pats his good old startx [07:12] Camarade_Tux: i use graphical login to keep the kids happy [07:13] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.129.40) joined ##slackware. [07:13] hi there! [07:13] had to run kdm as root instead of startx [07:13] works fine though [07:13] i'm trying to look into the .desktop files so i can put a ratpoison.desktop [07:13] skysong: change the runlevel to 4 in /etc/inittab [07:13] skysong: why not just edit your inittab? [07:13] init[1]: jinx [07:13] wow that was close :P [07:14] nyRednek: ;P [07:14] oh cool, ill do that [07:14] skysong: do you know where do modify? [07:14] nyRednek hmmm, slim seems to be using a config file for that [07:14] ive been on slackware for like 2 hours now, im still wandering through the system :p [07:14] im trying to install mythweb but when i load the page all i see are the php files anyone know what that could be [07:14] slim.berlios.de (see the docs) [07:14] Camarade_Tux: slim? [07:14] nyRednek: kdm : /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions/, gdm : /usr/share/xsessions/ [07:14] skysong: id:3:initdefault: [07:15] fredg: thanks [07:15] s/3/4 [07:15] Camarade_Tux: ok this is passing when that command FATAL: Module iwlang not found. [07:15] ok init[1] ill change it:) [07:15] you're welcome [07:15] rfdrew: does beep tell anything when it fails to work? [07:15] eddo: iwlagn, not iwlang ;-) [07:16] uhm [07:16] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:16] that sounds like dyslexia [07:17] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:17] or a typo or that iw-lang could make sense [07:17] Action: Camarade_Tux hits Wiren with nunchucks [07:18] Camarade_Tux: ok i think it's done now [07:18] \o/ [07:18] eddo: has your card appeared? [07:19] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.34.252) joined ##slackware. [07:19] Camarade_Tux: nop, no yet [07:20] eddo: do you have a physical switch to toggle wireless on/off? and can you pastebin the output of dmesg? (dmesg &> dmesg_output, and paste that on any pastebin website) [07:22] eddo (n=eddojh@200.23.135.193) left irc: "Leaving" [07:22] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC31576.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. 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[07:31] thanks guys, slackpkg works like a charm [07:31] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-14-173.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:31] kleanchap: I think you're also looking for slackpkg :P [07:32] lol [07:32] I need to update the kernel and the modules first. [07:33] Camarade_Tux, it doesn't say anything. it seems to work properly. if you set play time it waits all this time. it seems that the problem is not with beep but with the system itself [07:33] Is slapget a default install on Slackware these days? [07:33] rfdrew: what is the problem exactly? [07:33] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-14-173.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [07:33] kleanchap: NO! [07:34] kleanchap: slackpkg is [07:34] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-14-173.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:34] Camarade_Tux, there is no beep in system dynamic [07:35] nyRednek: you can turn off the f10 key binding [07:36] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Client Quit [07:36] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-14-173.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [07:36] XGizzmo: you mean on xfce's terminal? [07:37] war9407 (i=war@liquidswords.org) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:37] I think so [07:37] let me double check [07:38] XGizzmo: i think i'll be more comfortable back over at fvwm, though, with the xterms(not full screen) that i use there [07:40] slackie (n=x@87.196.203.254) left irc: "Papaver Somniferum" [07:40] beatzz (n=beatzz@72.48.68.43) joined ##slackware. [07:40] for some reason, wile in a Login Shell [07:41] i do not have access to /dev/mem [07:41] you turn it off in prefs shortcuts [07:44] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-35.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [07:47] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [07:47] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC31576.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [07:48] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [07:49] Camarade_Tux, perhaps the problem is in the system and not in the software [07:49] miltux (n=miltux@ppp182-226.adsl.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:49] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-419954.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:50] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:52] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [07:53] sidmario (n=sidmario@201-92-94-231.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:54] rfdrew: I have absolutely no idea =/ [07:55] tuubaaku (n=tuubaaku@h86.41.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [07:55] war273 (i=war@liquidswords.org) joined ##slackware. [07:56] Anyone here who runs an iptables firewall who only allows a few ports and drops the rst? Can you run a quick test run => lynx hardwaresecrets.com and tell me if you get any firewall blocks? [07:56] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.94.2) joined ##slackware. [07:58] war273: What the heck would that prove? [07:58] XGizzmo: It would prove that ESTABLISHED,RELATED is not tracking connections properly. [07:59] I get 1-2 firewall blocks when I load that page.. [07:59] TOS=00 PREC=0x20 TTL=17 ID=0 PROTO=TCP SPT=80 DPT=57332 SEQ=4065173124 ACK=0 WINDOW=0 ACK RST URGP=0 [07:59] that is from 69.41.161.35 (hardwaresecrets >> my ip) [07:59] I am trying to determine why it occurs. [08:00] 1/win 26 [08:00] (when simply just loading a web page..) [08:00] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [08:01] XGizzmo: do you get any blocks? [08:02] Camarade_Tux, which device does system dynamic have? if you check sound in the speakers and send file to /dev/dsp ( cat file > /dev/dsp) you will hear acoustic reproduction. is there any way to check this device? [08:04] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC31576.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:04] <^kleanchap_> I have "slackpkg upgrade" and the system does not update for the recent install. [08:05] CA:>O7KG=K5 5ABL? [08:05] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:06] slackpkg update [08:06] <^kleanchap_> I did slackpkg upgrade-all and it is doing the update. [08:06] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.66.251) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:07] <^kleanchap_> It is surprising that there is no kernel updates. [08:07] why? [08:07] <^kleanchap_> I will try slackpkg update next. [08:08] Why is it suprising? [08:09] ^kleanchap_: I think Pat is waiting for 2.6.32 [08:09] <^kleanchap_> How much space does Gnome desktop takeup for Slackware? The last time I tried it, it took up as much space as the full Slackware intall did. [08:09] then he'll package it and will put it on testing/ maybe [08:09] lackware 12.1. was installed. beep software was downloaded and compiled. but it doesn't beep through the system dynamic. what is the problem? and where should i look for it? [08:09] ^kleanchap_: (1) stable releases do not get newer kernels in patches and (2) there has not been a new kernel in -current since 13.0 [08:10] wat do? i've got a separate /boot partition, should i copy all slackware /boot stuff (kernel etc) to it? [08:10] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@67.191.58.46) joined ##slackware. [08:10] rfdrew: I don't get "system dynamic", and I don't have a /dev/dsp anymore here (recompiled kernel) [08:11] <^kleanchap_> Heya alienBOB! ltns [08:11] fortunately all filenames are different, but what if later i'll be compiling kernels and some files will get overwritten? [08:11] Gambe (n=gambe@93-42-224-221.ip88.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [08:11] <^kleanchap_> I guess I will wait for the update to come later on then. [08:11] heyia Gambe [08:11] hi metrofox [08:12] or, how should /boot partition look anyway? should i make separate directiores for each distro there? [08:13] ^kleanchap_: why do you need newer kernels? [08:13] halp [08:13] Camarade_Tux: could u give me a hint on what to google for my mouse pad not having the "tap-to-click" function? [08:14] someone said something about synaptic somethin the other day [08:14] <^kleanchap_> metrofox, I thought Slackware kept up with the kernel levels too. Logically, I expected the kernel to be on the mirror. [08:14] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.66.251) joined ##slackware. [08:14] przemoc86 (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:14] beatzz: you played with hal's .fdi files? [08:14] negitive [08:15] <^kleanchap_> Anyone using Gnome here? [08:15] <^kleanchap_> i.e. on Slackware? [08:15] <^kleanchap_> I would like to know how much space it takes up on SL13. [08:16] isn't synaptic for debian and ubuntu? [08:17] dunno. [08:17] skysong: yes it is for ubuntu, I don't know if debian uses it [08:17] metrofox: debian uses it as well [08:17] <^kleanchap_> What is the command for Xconfig? [08:17] Camarade_Tux, system dynamic speaker is speaker on the motherboard. you can hear BIOS sounds during the motherboard startup through this speaker [08:18] I don't use debian & its derivates for long time... I don't remember anything actually [08:19] rfdrew: ah, ok, and yeah, I know them, it was just the name [08:19] rfdrew: and does 'printf "\a" works? [08:20] skysong: synapticS, the touchpads :P [08:20] ^kleanchap_: i think its just xconfig [08:20] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [08:20] i used slackpkg install grub to install grub, and now it asks if files should be replaced or not, and i have no idea. what should i do? /etc/rc.d/rc.font.new - keep,overwrite,remove,diff,merge? [08:20] beatzz: read slackware13's CHANGES_AND_HINTS (or upgrade, or readme, I can't remember), there's a section for that [08:20] keep all? overwrite all? [08:21] cr3rzemjest: it depends by you... [08:21] cr3rzemjest: p, prompt :P [08:21] Camarade_Tux: thanks [08:21] ah ok Camarade_Tux :p [08:21] but i dunno what these files are for [08:21] cr3rzemjest: those are configuration files... overwrite them unless you've customized'em [08:21] cr3rzemjest: just see, these are configuration files, it's different for each, you keep or overwrite, as you wish (this one, you can probably overwrite it) [08:22] yup Camarade_Tux ^^ [08:23] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.85.147) joined ##slackware. [08:23] MooKimchi (n=kimchi@211.180.33.122) joined ##slackware. [08:24] i've selected overwrite, and the file it asked was /etc/rc.d/rc.font.new, it was there, now it's gone but there is .orig file [08:24] cr3rzemjest: so? :) [08:25] is this what should happen? [08:25] cr3rzemjest: yes you've overwritten the new files... :) [08:25] don't worry [08:25] :P [08:27] Camarade_Tux, printf "\a" does not work :( [08:27] beatzz@5570Z:~$ dmesg | grep SynPS/2 [08:27] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio4/input/input7 [08:27] according to the tutorial, it should work -_- [08:28] now, should i delete everything from /boot dir after i copied everything to /boot partition? is there some convenient tool that would automatically add /boot to fstab? [08:28] i mean /boot/slack [08:29] anyone know where i can get a quick list of options for input.xkb.options ? [08:30] does anyone know where I can get a copy of seamonkey-1.1.18? I'm only seeing 1.1.17 and 2.0 on slackware mirror... [08:30] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [08:30] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [08:32] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:32] beatzz (n=beatzz@72.48.68.43) left irc: "testing lilo -c" [08:33] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-14-173.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:34] ehm... so, i used slackpkg to install grub, pressed 'p' for prompt, the 'o' for overwrite [enter]. now when i type in 'grub' it says bash: /usr/sbin/grub: No such file or directory [08:35] cr3rzemjest: which grub [08:35] and are you sure that you installed grub? [08:35] Installing package grub-0.97-i486-8.txz: [08:35] Nick change: g4tt0 -> g4tt0d3ll3n3v1 [08:35] Package grub-0.97-i486-8.txz installed. [08:36] Kidpunkx (n=kidpunkx@adsl-85-46-217.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:36] Nick change: g4tt0d3ll3n3v1 -> g4tt0p4rd0 [08:36] masterx831 (n=masterx8@adsl-85-46-217.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:38] it isn't a big problem, i don't have to update grub from here, i just would have to reboot ;p [08:39] grubconfig works on the other hand, but in expert mode 'GRUB could not be installed' [08:39] cr3rzemjest: sorry... I don't use grub :) [08:40] rfdrew: maybe the beep is disabled in your bios [08:40] ok :P [08:40] or the beeper is not connected [08:40] MooKimchi (n=kimchi@211.180.33.122) left irc: "Leaving" [08:40] bennymack: tutorial? have you read the slackware docs? [08:41] bennymack: sorry, tab-fail [08:41] oh, he left [08:41] hitest (n=George@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:41] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@aa20060611363b8b1fd4.userreverse.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [08:41] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:42] Camarade_Tux, no. during the motherboard startup. system speaker beeps and slackware doesn;t [08:45] in my motherboard either [08:45] brb [08:46] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Connection timed out [08:47] beatzz (i=1000@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [08:47] THIS is the shit [08:47] im useing ssh for the first time [08:47] I'm on one laptop, connected to my other laptop, useing it to connect to irc [08:48] he :P [08:51] sidmario (n=sidmario@201-92-94-231.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:51] candinho (n=candinho@201-13-157-251.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:51] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:52] beatzz: welcome to the interconnected web [08:52] :O he spoke to me!!!!! [08:52] Action: beatzz faints [08:52] alienBOB: how goes it? [08:52] can i ssh to someones machine??? [08:52] please? [08:53] via some guest account or something [08:53] does anyone have a solution for eclipse crashing with the new seamonkey? [08:53] beatzz: Only if they setup an account for you. [08:53] and i'll make a file thats like hello.txt [08:53] rfdrew (n=qwe_qwe_@155-11-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:53] that they can read at a later date [08:53] There are servers that offer free shell access [08:53] alienBOB: i need a brick upside the head [08:54] Axius (n=ade@92.85.219.31) joined ##slackware. [08:54] tuubaaku: I was reading about those eclipse crashes but no idea where they are coming from [08:54] alienBOB: seems like downgrading to 1.1.18 fixes the issue, but I can't find the 1.1.18 packages... [08:54] and I'm not sure exactly what the problem is [08:55] MadSlacker (n=Freak@59.177.111.146) joined ##slackware. [08:55] tuubaaku: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/eclipse-does-not-launch-719045/ [08:55] I don't know if you're having the same issue with it [08:56] yeah, I'm on that thread - that's where I saw that downgrading seamonkey fixes the issue [08:56] beatzz i'll give you ssh access but only if you agree to sign onto my machine as root [08:56] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/pasture/seamonkey-1.1.18-i486-1.txz tuubaaku [08:56] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:56] ah, thanks alienBOB [08:57] checked slackware and patches but not pasture [08:57] beatzz: http://shellium.org/ has free shells iirc [08:58] well, eclipse behaved this way for long time ago though... I don't know what's your problem exactly tuubaaku :) [08:58] and when eclipse crashes in your machine [09:00] metrofox: my problem is that it consistently crashes when I type a variable name and it displays possible methods for that object [09:01] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:01] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:01] alienBOB: to have irssi execute commands at startup you simple place the commands in a file named startup in you ~/.irssi directory? [09:01] beatzz: u can ssh to me [09:02] beatzz ~/.irssi/config [09:02] :o rotten irssi documentation... [09:02] thanks powtrix [09:03] beatzz: you think irssi has rotten docs...you should look at xscreensaver's docs [09:03] <^kleanchap_> I have installed VMware tools on my Slackware VM. Why is it not switching to full screen mode? [09:03] turkeyshoot (n=raiden@S0106001cdfd0ecff.dr.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:04] gana test out this bad biddy, cr3rzemjest i will ssh to u when i return :D [09:04] vmware has a history of not playing well with slackware. [09:04] ^kleanchap_, did you try VirtualBox? [09:04] beatzz (i=1000@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "leaving" [09:04] <^kleanchap_> powtrix, on vmware [09:04] how to remove fingerprint if i ssh'd myself [09:04] tuubaaku: my Lotus Notes on Slackware64 is an Eclipse based application (I use it because I work for IBM) - I just tried to run it with seamonkey-2.0 installed and it starts at first but then hangs [09:04] cr3rzemjest: ~/.ssh/known_hosts ? [09:05] the only "bad" feature on VBox is not a win98 emulation, for 16-bit limitation [09:05] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [09:05] strange [09:05] i put 3 commands into ~/.irssi/startup [09:05] Then, I upgraded seamonkey to the (non-public) package that Pat Volkerding has ready (I needed additional stuff in it because the VLC compilation broke as well) [09:06] connect irc.freenode.net / msg nickserv identify / and join ##slackware [09:06] That package is not yet released but it will, soon. Now Lotus Notes will run again :;;;;;;-) [09:06] it actualy executed the first command on startup [09:06] but not the second or thrid [09:06] how do i enable ctl alt backspace in slackware [09:06] So, I hope the updated seamonkey package will solve your eclipse problems tuubaaku [09:06] it seems to be disabled [09:06] oobe: its not [09:06] hitest (n=George@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:06] ctrl+alt+backspace? to restart x? it works here. [09:06] hal is patched to enable it [09:07] sahk0, oh ok must be somthing i did [09:07] beatzz: go to irssi's web page, it describes in exquisite detail how to do that [09:07] well... gonna watch italy - new zeland guys... see ya [09:07] spook: but, in the server? so that it doesn't say somebody is doing something nasty etc? [09:07] cr3rzemjest: known_hosts [09:08] to move a file acrost the network via ssh, can i do as follows: cp /path/to/file 192.168.0.110/path/to/new/location ??? [09:08] negatory [09:08] scp [09:08] sidmario (n=sidmario@201.92.94.231) joined ##slackware. [09:08] anything like that? [09:08] you can use scp though, which is cp over ssh [09:08] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:09] ok i will man it [09:09] thanks mancha [09:09] Nick change: sidmario -> Guest22871 [09:09] Nick change: g4tt0p4rd0 -> g4tt0 [09:10] scp user@remote:/path/to/source /path/to/dest (to DL) and scp /peth/to/source user@remote:/path/to/dst (to UL) [09:10] or summit [09:10] alienBOB: thanks for the info - I'll be watching for the new package [09:11] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:13] hitest (n=hitest@64.114.226.228) joined ##slackware. [09:13] microsoft patented "sudo"; good times [09:13] mancha: i think you are the last one to know this :P [09:14] no, i knew for a few days now, i'm just still amazed [09:14] how do you return to your own machine from ssh [09:14] O_O [09:14] exit the shell? [09:14] ctrl c, ctrl d [09:14] mancha: what will happen to unix sudo? [09:14] nice.... [09:15] will we be allowed to use it ? [09:15] they will never take sudo from us!!! [09:15] init, no we won't as a result unix and linux will disappear and we will all use windows 8 next year [09:15] o_O [09:15] mancha: are you joking ? [09:15] nope [09:16] mancha: yea i get ya [09:16] now that suspend works perfectly on my laptop, and slackware is a perfect linux, is there any reason for rebooting? [09:16] mancha: that means we have to start patenting all the UNIX/Linux stuff b4 M$ do [09:16] :D [09:17] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [09:17] cr3rzemjest: custom kernel ? [09:17] perhaps, but i have no problems with hardware on this one [09:17] The_Seeker (n=seeker@90.200.153.19) joined ##slackware. [09:18] cr3rzemjest: well,people have various reasons to compile kernel ,not only the HW problem [09:18] for fun :P [09:18] may be :) [09:19] cr3rzemjest: some people do that do what all makes their _thing_ tick :D ,small kernel is usually fast :) [09:19] s/do that/do that to know/ [09:20] pireau (i=1000@208.92.18.96) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:20] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "leaving" [09:20] http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1785 [09:20] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [09:20] sweet [09:20] irssi is now pimped out [09:21] as I've just compiled a kernel, is backing it up for a fresh installation simply a matter of copying "vmlinuz-custom-2.6.31.6-smp"? [09:21] Axius (n=ade@92.85.219.31) left irc: "Leaving" [09:21] rfdrew (n=qwe_qwe_@155-11-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [09:22] The_Seeker: all you have to do is , give a good version string b4 you compile the kernel , and don't do make install ,instead copy the image and rename is accordingly and edit lilo . [09:22] tada [09:23] ZMR__ (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [09:23] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [09:23] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:23] init[1]: cool [09:24] The_Seeker: btw don't forget to install the modules [09:25] init[1]: yes I was just reading about that [09:26] suvir (n=suvir@ppp-124-120-136-234.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined ##slackware. [09:28] Axius (n=jfo@92.85.219.31) joined ##slackware. [09:28] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-14-173.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:30] war273 (i=war@liquidswords.org) left irc: "leaving" [09:32] g' day Slackers:) [09:32] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-14-173.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:33] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:35] MadSlacker (n=Freak@59.177.111.146) left ##slackware. [09:36] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [09:36] candinho_ (n=candinho@201-13-157-251.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:37] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-14-173.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [09:37] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-14-173.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:39] adobe's linux acroreader is 46 megs in bz2 form....can someone else explain why its as big as the full linux kernel? [09:39] rfdrew (n=qwe_qwe_@155-11-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:40] how come when i reboot stuff stays in /tmp [09:40] how do i make it clean out automatically [09:41] a naive approach would be to put "rm -rf /tmp/*" in rc.local [09:41] mancha: no, not as big, bigger :D [09:41] mancha: but I guess it ships with all its dependencies [09:43] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-35.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [09:44] indeed! [09:44] i wish some day Adobe opened up thier products [09:44] VonNaturAustreVe (n=v0rtex@201.86.165.196.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:44] s/their/ [09:45] alexzyp (n=ping@58.254.92.222) joined ##slackware. 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[09:46] spook: :D [09:46] VonNaturAustreVe (n=v0rtex@201.86.165.196.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [09:46] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [09:47] Action: adamk is booted into Haiku at this very moment. [09:47] just love haiku's UI, [09:47] rhapsody is cool [09:47] ^^ [09:47] so consistent and they even have guidlines for how do design haiku icons , [09:48] whats haiku? [09:48] beos's bastard child [09:48] http://www.haiku-os.org/ [09:49] mancha: :D [09:49] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:49] its like beos compatible os, written from scratch in C++ [09:49] spook: http://www.haiku-os.org/slideshows/haiku-tour [09:49] giuppy (n=giuppy@host43-160-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:49] skysong: ^ [09:49] init[1]: i know what it is. [09:49] tab fail [09:50] im checking [09:50] spook: ^ [09:50] adamk, how much is out there that is compatible? [09:50] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [09:51] mancha: Everything I've tried so far, which isn't too much. [09:51] Probably the most complex application would be Gobe Productive. [09:51] alexzyp (n=ping@58.254.92.222) left ##slackware. [09:51] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166060135.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:51] do you run it natively or in a vm? [09:52] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:52] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [09:52] I've done both, but I'm running it natively at the moment. [09:53] you got me interested, im set up a vm this weekend [09:53] :) [09:53] john_dee (n=id@95-29-14-142.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:53] In terms of vm, I've used it mostly in qemu. When I tried vmware, it crapped out... Not sure if it works in vbox, but I *think* it does. [09:54] candinho (n=candinho@201-13-157-251.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:54] mancha: ahem ahem [09:54] :D [09:54] good times, i use qemu. would never touch vmware, not even with someone else's box [09:54] i only used virtualbox, i love guis :s [09:55] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:55] kvm + libvirt + virt-manager, so much better than vmware. [09:55] from Bram Cohen (bittorrent): "Go seems to finally get the static typing problem solved. Its := operator is a reasonable middle point between C++'s ludicrous verbosity and ML's excessive magic." <- ML's magic is not excessive :P [09:55] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.129.40) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [09:55] vbox is a sellout...they cripple their open version. "want usb pass-trhough? - go proprietary" thats like saying "want to breathe? go proprietary" [09:55] well, I haven't had the need for usb in hosts for years [09:55] mancha: which is why kvm beats it hands down :P [09:56] if you can kvm... [09:56] spook: virt-manager has tons of deps [I don't like], tried ovirt? [09:56] (web interface) [09:56] is the haiku worth a try? it seems nice [09:56] Camarade_Tux: theres virt-manager on slackbuilds.org, plus all its deps, thanks to me :) [09:57] skysong: everything is worth a try. best judge is yourself. [09:57] candinho__ (n=candinho@201-13-157-251.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:57] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [09:57] spook: now we know who to blame. [09:58] spook: yeah, it's just gconf and gnome-python which I don't like (gnome + ptyhon, I can't have that on my computer! :o ) [09:58] petslack (n=petslack@201.43.189.33) joined ##slackware. [09:58] XGizzmo: well my name is on the slackbuild. send me hate mail :) [09:58] Emeau_ (i=1000@AMontsouris-158-1-14-173.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:58] spook, agreed, kvm is indeed king of the hill [09:58] Camarade_Tux: 'cant' ? [09:59] and if your have an older proc, qemu+kqemu ain't too shabby [09:59] + libvirt + virt-manager [10:00] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:00] VanRoy (n=kitsilan@82.67.196.165) joined ##slackware. [10:01] skysong (n=indecent@41.136.196.73) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:01] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-71-35.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:01] skysong (n=indecent@41.136.196.73) joined ##slackware. [10:01] spook: I don't like python, I don't like gnome, I could install python-gnome but I don't like the idea :D [10:01] s/don't like/hate/g [10:02] Camarade_Tux: why do you hate python ? [10:02] mancha: qemu+kqemu doesn't work very well for windows unfortunately [10:02] Camarade_Tux: hey, its your choice. [10:02] Gnome I can understand, but python? [10:02] init[1]: because I think it sucks :P [10:02] how much :D [10:02] (hmmm, pythons are probably pretty good at deepthroats :D ) [10:02] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.94.2) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:02] hoover sucks too, but it's good [10:02] spook: I was wondering if you had packaged ovirt so I don't have to :D [10:03] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC31576.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:03] init[1]: sixteen centimeters :) [10:03] it suck a bowlling ball through a garden hose. P [10:03] Camarade_Tux: no need to, i'm happy with virt-manager [10:04] virt-manager is red hat's new thing, no? [10:04] new? no. [10:04] its just a gtk front end to libvirt [10:04] hmmph [10:04] spook: crap :P [10:04] spook: think I can put it in a vm, vnc to that vm and administer from there? xD [10:05] Camarade_Tux: using libvirt you can setup vnc. [10:06] as in, the kvm/qemu built-in vnc [10:08] i put some some scripts in /etc/rc.d/rc.* and they are executable 755 but i still need to manually start them after booting [10:08] is there somthing im missing [10:08] oobe: Scripts are just executed if they are found there. [10:08] candinho__ (n=candinho@201-13-157-251.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [10:08] You could call them from /etc/rc.d/rc.local [10:08] adamk, so they should work [10:08] candinho (n=candinho@201-13-157-251.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[10:30] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:30] aigon (n=jfo@92.84.1.29) left irc: Client Quit [10:31] oobe (n=none@220.244.162.235) joined ##slackware. [10:31] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.85.147) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:32] i XGizzmo and adamk thanks i wasnt sure if i was missing somthing i made a nice system to add stuff and my my own custom scripts [10:32] maybe once its refined i can share it [10:32] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h151n4c1o1003.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. [10:33] i know most people are just happy with rc.local [10:34] prashant (n=prashant@122.172.55.149) joined ##slackware. [10:34] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [10:35] sup [10:36] so if i want the version of amarok that comes w/ Slackware 12.2 [10:37] hello everyone [10:37] ...I would.. [10:37] sup prashant [10:37] beatzz: use 12.2 [10:38] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn-164.95-102-85.t-com.sk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:38] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:38] ha..ha...ha..... [10:38] when i go to the terminal, doing alt-fN, it return to X via alt-f7. ok. But always I need to run `xmodmap -e "keycode 129 = period"` to fix a issue in my keyboard set, the dot (look the sequence: "456.") returns as `,`. Any idea why this? [10:38] extra/ has some kd3 compat packages. i dont know if thats enough though. but you could try [10:38] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [10:38] I use abnt-2 keyboard.. the rest of the sets are good [10:39] powtrix: using a funky european layout? [10:39] init[1] : are u online? [10:39] abnt2 layout [10:39] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: SendQ exceeded [10:39] s/kd3/kde3 [10:39] ,.;/ç are ok [10:40] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [10:40] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "leaving" [10:40] prashant (n=prashant@122.172.55.149) left irc: "Leaving" [10:41] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: SendQ exceeded [10:43] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [10:43] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [10:44] songohan (n=songohan@ALyon-553-1-146-28.w92-145.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:44] Hello everybody [10:45] VanRoy (n=kitsilan@82.67.196.165) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:45] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.66.251) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:45] is it possible to install knetworkmanager ? [10:45] nm [10:45] what does it mean ? [10:45] songohan: of course, but you have to do it yourself [10:46] ok [10:46] sahk0 : How can i do ? [10:47] some of GNOME projects for Slackware offer networkmanager to start with [10:48] songohan: have you tried installing wicd? [10:48] I'm using that on my slackware64 install on my laptop [10:48] works like a charm [10:49] sahk0 : I use kde. knetworkmanager is part of the kde desktop, isn't it ? [10:49] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h151n4c1o1003.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:50] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.1.241) joined ##slackware. [10:51] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h151n4c1o1003.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. [10:51] hi, I am using Slackware 13. I tried burning an ISO image with K3B, and the burning progress just stopped at 99% while the DVD was spinning at full speed inside the DVD-Writer. It never crossed 99% and I canceled it. I have wasted 2 blank DVDs. wtf? [10:51] songohan: no its not. knetworkmanager is an openSUSE project [10:52] alreadygone, the iso is ok? [10:53] yes. it is fine. [10:53] it's a Slackware 13 64 bit ISO. [10:53] checked it's integrity before burning it... [10:53] sahk0 : Ok, i trust you. But i want to understand, why this addon exists on ubuntu and debian ? [10:53] andreluiz (n=andrelui@189.71.17.47) left irc: [10:54] i want to make x (kde) or whatever user to be able to mount stuff [10:54] because knetworkmanager is just a front end for networkmanager, which requires gnome to work. [10:54] songohan: as you say its an addon. Slackware doesnt add it, others might do. [10:54] madbear: add your user to the proper groups [10:54] alreadygone, try: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvdrw=slackware-dvd.iso [10:55] spook: tried that, need to relog . forgot that :P [10:55] powtrix, the release notes for Slackware 13 says: "One of the issues we're aware of is that [10:55] k3b hasn't been working as well as the KDE3 version for some people [10:55] (it works fine here, but we have heard some reports)" [10:55] http://slackware.com/releasenotes/13.0.php [10:55] ctrl+f k3b [10:56] why the hell is it not working well? if it is not working why was not an alternative packaged with slackware 13? [10:56] Gambe_ (n=gambe@93-42-224-221.ip88.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [10:56] alreadygone: its an upstream issue. [10:57] alreadygone: there are very well working commandline tools. [10:57] Guest22871 (n=sidmario@201.92.94.231) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [10:57] Gambe_ (n=gambe@93-42-224-221.ip88.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Client Quit [10:58] so, powtrix and spook, should I gamble on another blank dvd with the command powtrix gave? :) [10:58] i got 3 left :| [10:58] use growisofs [10:58] btw i burned alot of dvds with k3b [10:59] alreadygone: the last cd/dvd i burnt was about 5 years ago. [10:59] sahk0: i have used knetworkmanager on debian without installing gnome... [10:59] s/burned/burnt/o\ [11:00] powtrix, isn't k3b also uses growisofs? I am asking because, at 99% the processor usage was stuck at 100%. and the the process which was using it was growisofs.... [11:00] ClaudioM : Could you explain how to make the addon ? [11:00] uSlackr (n=uSlackr@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:00] if its too complicated, i will use wicd [11:00] songohan: because apt installed the deps for it probably :) [11:01] i could burn a dvd iso just to test.. [11:02] are you using k3b 1.68.0? [11:02] Nick change: hy -> silver [11:02] let me check [11:02] cd? dvd? people still use that kind of stuff? [11:02] 1.63.0 [11:02] guax: apparently :O [11:02] dermoth (n=dermoth@205.151.111.9) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:02] Nick change: silver -> hy [11:03] spook, after my 8gb pendrive, i had never thinked in cd again =P. even slackware i install on pen drive [11:03] dermoth (n=dermoth@205.151.111.9) joined ##slackware. [11:03] I need to update it right? [11:03] guax: people still boot from usb? i use pxe [11:03] alreadygone, go: slackware64-current/slackware64/kde/k3b-1.68.0-x86_64-1.txz [11:04] ok, thanks powtrix [11:04] thanks spook [11:04] alreadygone: even 1.68.0 is a devel version. theres no guarantees you wont have problems [11:04] 64-bit? [11:04] alreadygone: i didnt help [11:04] right now I am using 32 bit, but I was trying to burn the 64 bit version I downloaded... [11:04] spook, thats comparing apples with oranges. usb is the new media. ssd's are rocking cd's as they did with floppy drives. [11:05] spook, you listene [11:05] d [11:05] then go: slackware/slackware-current/slackware/kde/k3b-1.68.0-i486-1.txz [11:05] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [11:05] alreadygone: Slackware 13 has the KDE3 version od k3b in the /extra directory, so that you can use that instead of the KDE4 version if that does not work for you [11:05] See /extra/kde3-compat/k3b3-1.0.5-i486-opt1.txz - you'll need the rest of extra/kde3-compat/ too probably [11:05] ok alienBOB [11:06] as alien said: try slackware/slackware-current/extra/kde3-compat/k3b3-1.0.5-i486-opt1.txz [11:06] ok [11:06] songohan: you can not add networkmanager to Slackware - this requires gnome plus other stuff [11:06] Gambe (n=gambe@93-42-224-221.ip88.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:07] The only good thing about knetworkmanager in the future KDE4.4 is that the developers are considering adding wicd as an alternative backend for those who do not have networkmanager. [11:07] Well, I wouldn't say you 'can't' you can.. but its really not worth the effort [11:07] Until then, knetworkmanager in Slackware is useless - better use wicd [11:08] alienBOB: well wicd is pretty good. :) [11:08] Agreed [11:08] GArik (n=wesnoth@89.179.149.7) joined ##slackware. [11:08] hello [11:08] any of you guys seen/heard of roller derby? [11:08] I didn't think network manager really needed that much from gnome [11:08] uhhh yah [11:08] where i can get sg_inq? [11:08] and knetworkmanager might also be part of KDE 4.4 [11:08] Andeverybody I've spoken or read comments of, who used networkmanager *and* wicd tells me that wicd is a lot more stable than networkmanager [11:08] at least its core [11:09] sahk0: I just told that more or less [11:09] I use networkmanager on openSUSE.. I love it [11:09] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [11:09] networkmanager does need polkit stuff, though; I don't think many gnome items, though [11:09] alienBOB: ok. i just wanted to specify that part:) [11:09] Dominian: networkmanager has good support for other network connections than just LAN and wireless, that is the advantage over wicd [11:09] alienBOB: yep [11:10] alienBOB: but that wont always be the case :) [11:10] But the next generation of wicd will support more backends too... I just hope it will not take them too long to release [11:10] alienBOB: I use it on my laptop.. works a charm.. but in that situation its highly needed since I use my laptop for work and home.. and I migrate from office to office/client to client frequently [11:10] aigon (n=jfo@92.84.1.29) joined ##slackware. [11:11] Ok, i will use wicd :) [11:11] Action: guax still uses ifconfig sometimes =P [11:11] but wicd made me forget about iwconfig [11:12] See, that is how GUIs make people lazy and uneducated [11:13] yeah, when you take your laptop to a client, as Dominian said, you SHOULD struggle with CLI for 30 minutes :) that's a REAL linux user [11:13] Ishmael (n=ishmael@189.96.57.49) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:13] that depends, i prefeer cli user administration as my server configurations. [11:14] thrice`: haha [11:14] GArik (n=wesnoth@89.179.149.7) left irc: "Leaving" [11:14] Nick change: hy -> silver [11:14] thrice`, i installed wicd because people where starting to call me crazy and pshycotic to get wireless with iwlist scan and iwconfig =P [11:14] guys, how can I remove the lilo boot loader from my MBR? [11:14] GArik (n=wesnoth@89.179.149.7) joined ##slackware. [11:14] thrice`: no, you should get 3 hours into cursor scripting during a date. [11:15] alreadygone: man lilo. theres an option to restore the mbr backup. [11:15] alreadygone, you will install anything else in its place? then just replace it. [11:15] I'm not a huge fan of "using cli only" stuff. gui tools make tasks MUCH quicker [11:15] i will not install it anything in its place. I'll install on the superblock... [11:16] thanks spook [11:16] i did a lilo -u didn't work [11:16] the command worked, but lilo is still there [11:16] thrice`, again, depends on task [11:17] you have an example, where me clicking wicd -> network is not preferred to scanning, finding a network, changing my wpa config, changing my inet1.conf, and restarting daemons ? [11:18] While system boot i get following error: [11:18] /sbin/rescan-scsi-bus: line 476: [: 474:: integer expression expected [11:18] This happens because there is no sg_inq utility on my system. [11:18] Channel flood from GArik -- kicking [11:18] Where could i get it? [11:18] GArik kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [11:18] GArik (n=wesnoth@89.179.149.7) joined ##slackware. [11:18] thrice`: shell script ? [11:18] but why? that's even more time [11:18] thrice`, indeed, but what about copy files with rsync? even copy files when you know the location is quicker in cli [11:18] tools exist to make this crap easier [11:18] dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 something like that will clear the MBR nicely. [11:19] WILL clear your partition table as well, though, so be careful. [11:19] Apparently bs=446 for just the mbr and not the partition table. [11:19] No guarantees :) [11:19] guax, I agree there, but connecting to networks is a different battle :) [11:20] well my point is that you have to know the cli equivalent, you decide whats faster and better. [11:20] oobe (n=none@220.244.162.235) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:21] guax: yes, GUI makes us forget things :( [11:21] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:21] why do you *have* to know? this sort of thing just makes people migrating to linux more challenging [11:21] Action: guax thinking if "equivalent" is wright [11:21] if I were to install ubuntu on my mom's computer, and told her connecting to wireless was that difficult, there'd be no way she'd bother [11:21] Well, the shell tools to connect to a wireless network could be better. [11:21] thrice`: i think you will have to reconsider the _people_ you are talking about :D [11:21] the ncurses wicd frontend is much better than the gui imo. [11:21] But I guess no one really bothered to make them cli-friendly. [11:21] im not talking about mothers, =P [11:22] why not, though? [11:22] i mean computers as computing machines. not usual house eletronics [11:22] Nick change: silver -> hy [11:22] Look at me, I'm computing! [11:22] Look at me go! [11:22] oobe (n=none@220.244.162.235) joined ##slackware. [11:22] and this is why desktop linux is failing ;) [11:23] thrice`: i was talking about us people , for normal users Ubu[nut] would suffice [11:23] i dont see it failing. its evolving and getting users. [11:23] not US people :D [11:24] \connec quakenet random server [11:24] Wiren: fail! [11:24] and my example about getting files copied with rsync and cli would have no sense on home desktop users [11:24] gaux "i don't see it failing" hah, just look at KDE 4 it's becoming gnome [11:24] i still use 3.5 =P [11:24] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-139-180.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:24] What? They're nothing alike. [11:25] Xfce is my baby :D [11:25] oh god, not a wm war [11:25] =~ [11:25] twm! [11:25] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Connection timed out [11:25] hah [11:25] test__ (n=test@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:25] KDE 4 melted my pc [11:25] buy a better one =P [11:25] KDE4 is still rather unstable in my experience. [11:26] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [11:26] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.66.250) joined ##slackware. [11:27] diven (n=diven@72.183.237.80) left irc: "Quitting" [11:27] aigon (n=jfo@92.84.1.29) left irc: "Leaving" [11:27] it's stable for me, the apps just suck :) [11:27] Action: init[1] gonna try Enlightenment today [11:27] I guess I don't use too many of the apps. [11:28] I use kmail on my desktops but they're still 3.5. [11:28] And konsole, which is sufficient. That's it, basically. [11:28] Opinion, I really like some of them. [11:28] Oh and the pdf reader. [11:28] i could fairly use kde4 now, but i cant handle the new amarok =P [11:28] Okular [11:28] my works resume on netbeans and a browser [11:28] and cli of course [11:29] I haven't found a text editor that beats Kate, KDE's new application launcher is pretty nice. [11:29] Amarok2... I have to agree on, I much prefer the older interface [11:30] henvic (n=henvic@187.78.201.1) joined ##slackware. [11:30] Nick change: henvic -> henriquev [11:30] I like okular alot, I guess . but konsole, konqueror, kopete, and amarok2 I can't stand [11:30] henriquev (n=henvic@187.78.201.1) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [11:30] new konsole is good for me [11:31] kopete is fine. but amarok -_- [11:31] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-35.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:32] Konversation is pretty nice, could just do with a bit more plugin support, and then it pretty much has parity with XChat as far as I can think of (plus a few nice extras like built in blowfish encryption for discussing stuff that might include passwords say) [11:32] amarok - the amok music player [11:33] why does the new konsole shows file entries in color? [11:33] *does not [11:33] alias ls='ls --color' [11:33] =D [11:33] konsole there are themes, set them [11:34] EVERYTIME? [11:34] hoobop (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [11:34] when you run it, yes [11:34] alreadygone, echo "alias ls='ls --color'" >> ~/.bashrc [11:34] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [11:35] thanks guax. [11:35] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [11:35] works! [11:35] B) [11:36] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [11:36] alreadygone: configure konsole to run a "login shell" and you will have your colours back [11:37] impy (n=impy@210.134-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [11:37] alreadygone: or you can run /etc/profile.d/coreutils-dircolors.sh within your .bashrc (don't know if this is a standard way to do it) [11:37] Action: guax wonders if that works with yakuake as well [11:38] hmm. alienBOB when i created my user account from root, I chose login shell as bash, if I remember correctly, because I always do that... [11:38] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:39] suvir (n=suvir@ppp-124-120-136-234.revip2.asianet.co.th) left irc: "Leaving" [11:39] alreadygone: check /etc/passwd | grep yourname [11:39] s/check/cat/ [11:39] nothing came up [11:40] did a cat /etc/passwd | grep yourname [11:40] omg! [11:40] alreadygone: your username [11:40] what? [11:40] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.66.250) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:40] jeesus [11:40] oh crap [11:40] need to quote that [11:40] aeaeuheahuaeuheuhea [11:40] lol [11:40] sorry about that [11:40] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [11:40] silas:x:500:500::/home/silas:/bin/bash [11:40] alreadygone: it happens :D [11:41] it shouldn't, but it happens aeuheuhaea [11:41] you forgot -c [11:41] alreadygone: yea there is your shell "The bash" [11:41] :) that was quite embarrassing. but funny too [11:41] alreadygone: konsole needs to run "bash -l" not just "bash" [11:42] alreadygone: i think this has already one to noobfram [11:42] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [11:42] farm [11:42] aah [11:44] w00tw00t! [11:45] got hiptobecubic I got synaptics working [11:45] alienBOB, I'll just edit it then... [11:45] alreadygone: what are you planning to do ? [11:46] beatzz, what did you have to do? [11:46] test__ (n=test@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "bye" [11:47] pi31415_ (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:47] hiptobecubic: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/synaptics-touchpad-settings-in-xorg.conf-not-persisting-upon-reboot-758184/ [11:47] beatzz, ah, xorg.conf [11:47] edited some hal file. [11:48] yeh [11:48] worked like a charm [11:48] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:48] remove the crap from xorg.conf is you add the right stuff to the hal FDI file [11:49] why? [11:50] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@124.43.62.172) joined ##slackware. [11:50] why as in like, im currious not as in im being a smartass [11:50] Action: Intel[R]VT-x thinks beatzz is smart than me :) [11:50] o crap started again [11:51] Nick change: init[1] -> sw|init[1] [11:51] i was away init[1] ... I plan to install slack 12.2 in a second partition, burn a dvd of Slackware 13 64 bit from there, remove the Slackware 13 32bit, and install the 64 bit. But first i need to remove lilo from MBR. I just don'r like it there. I has to be on the superblock... [11:51] Is anyone using a new ATI graphics card? Are they still a pain in the dick to get working properly? [11:52] alreadygone: well do you have any other OS other than slackware series ? [11:53] nope [11:53] if no,then MBR is a better choic [11:53] choice [11:53] songohan (n=songohan@ALyon-553-1-146-28.w92-145.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:53] hmm [11:53] why? [11:53] Action: sw|init[1] brb [11:54] hiptobecubic, they work pretty good on linux now [11:54] hiptobecubic: I have one, a 4200, but there is no screen attached :D [11:54] where is alienBOB's wiki page located? [11:54] amd is a bit more compromised with make things work the good way [11:54] guax, pretty good? full accel? [11:54] beatzz: http://www.slackware.com/~alien/dokuwiki/doku.php [11:54] on my old 9600 pro yes [11:54] holy shit [11:54] alienBOB: u are my idol. [11:54] Action: Camarade_Tux is sure you could do a clean install of slackware64 *while* using slackware32 :D [11:55] you are actualy on google. [11:55] lol ^^ [11:55] i wish i could google myself... [11:55] guax I was unable to install the ATI X200 Catalyst driver for Slackware 13. [11:55] humm [11:55] theres a kernel issue i think. but on older verions they work [11:55] versions* [11:55] i didnt try that for years now [11:56] beatzz, hey, i appear on google as well =/ [11:56] the DJ / singer? [11:57] dokuwiki with mediawiki theme? =P [11:57] beatzz, no aeuhaeuh [11:57] damn i leave the first page =( [11:57] dose anyone here use RSS feeds? [11:57] I get that: Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version [11:57] default:v2:i686:lib::none:2.6.29.6-smp; make sure that the version is being [11:57] correctly set by --iscurrentdistro [11:57] well my profile on library thing is on second page. and if you put my real name i think you get my page [11:58] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.66.252) joined ##slackware. [11:58] alreadygone, yeah, exaclty that shit i get, but i give up by lack of time [11:58] i got* [11:59] i had time. but I just gave up. [11:59] =P [12:00] weak soul [12:00] :) i read in some forum that X200 will not work with Slackware 13. THAT guy said it was because that model was too old... [12:01] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-35.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [12:02] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@aa20060611363b8b1fd4.userreverse.dion.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [12:05] life time [12:05] bbl [12:10] [OT] http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10397679-71.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 [/OT] [12:12] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-419954.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:12] alreadygone: *perhaps* support has been dropped in the "official" driver but you might want to try opensource drivers, I guess they should work well [12:12] for you [12:13] "Sometimes, we never even know those closest to us. Or sometimes we do, and then one day, they just change." [12:13] that's so deep [12:13] fortune ? [12:13] associated press [12:14] rfdrew (n=qwe_qwe_@155-11-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] Camarade_Tux, by opensource drivers if you mean without the hardware acceleration drivers, then yes, slacware detected the vga automatically. it is working fine... [12:16] actually, cnet, not associated press [12:16] "Don't cook tonight -- starve a rat today!" [12:16] thats fortune [12:16] http://www.rogueamoeba.com/utm/wp-content/uploads/images/20091112NewAFST.png \o/ [12:17] an app for the iphone showing the eff logo because apple won't let use apple-related images [12:17] Axius (n=ade@92.84.26.236) joined ##slackware. [12:18] alreadygone: no, I mean, radeon/radeonhd [12:18] not vesa [12:18] yeah, that's showing apple.. i should buy an iphone so I can join the protest! [12:18] ^^ [12:19] http://www.theworldlink.com/articles/2009/11/14/news/doc4afd9e1568074764843176.txt [12:19] Axius (n=ade@92.84.26.236) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:19] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.66.252) left irc: "bye........." [12:19] huh? Let me Google them [12:20] http://www.radeonhd.org/ I did not know about that! [12:21] Wiren- (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:21] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:21] neat [12:22] Nick change: pi31415_ -> pi31415 [12:23] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [12:23] alreadygone: there are a few different/related drivers (maybe only two :P ), I'm not up with what each can/can't do, so check [12:23] alreadygone: also, radeon is hosted on x.org I think [12:24] songohan (n=songohan@ALyon-553-1-146-28.w92-145.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:24] i'm looking :) this is good news. thanks [12:25] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:26] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [12:26] :) [12:29] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: "Leaving." [12:32] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@114-45-230-194.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:35] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:35] GammalSokk (n=johskar@137.84-48-41.nextgentel.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:37] Is any one fan of Ankit Fadia ? [12:38] lordkelmain (n=lordkelm@ip68-5-13-113.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:39] GammalSokk (n=johskar@137.84-48-41.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [12:40] spook: you're slow! [12:40] Camarade_Tux: why [12:41] Axius (n=ade@92.84.26.236) joined ##slackware. [12:41] spooksoftware.com ;-) [12:41] Camarade_Tux: yeah so? [12:42] Camarade_Tux: i'm capped to 64k [12:43] I'm french, I like to complain :) [12:43] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [12:43] Camarade_Tux: and surrender, even if not at war. [12:43] ^^ [12:44] I'm not sure we'd surrender to australian people :D [12:44] Camarade_Tux: we dont care. [12:45] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:46] hiya fire|bird [12:46] heya hitest, how are you? [12:46] Camarade_Tux, I ran the autogen.sh for the opensource Radeon driver. then make, make install and ldconfig. now what? restart X? [12:46] Camarade_Tux: we'll just tell you to bugger off and maybe throw empties at you [12:46] Fire|bird: I am very well, ty:) how are you? [12:46] hitest: I am great, thanks. :) [12:47] alreadygone: I can only tell you to read the doc, I have no idea, sorry [12:47] ok [12:47] spook: we'd tease you with beer :) [12:47] we'd ally with belgium and threaten not to send you beer anymore :D [12:47] fire|bird: hi ;) [12:47] hi Camarade_Tux [12:48] Camarade_Tux: nah a true aussie never runs out of beer, and therefore, never out of empties to through [12:48] Camarade_Tux: we make our own and its pretty good. [12:48] hehe :P [12:48] bbl [12:49] Camarade_Tux, have you ever met Audrey Tautou? [12:49] hahaha, no [12:49] if I were in France I would try [12:49] at least [12:50] have a cup of coffee [12:50] or tea [12:50] hi all is anyone knows what is a NIS server ? [12:51] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-69-243.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [12:52] sorry for the noise I got what I needed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Information_Service [12:54] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [12:54] omg!^ [12:54] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-69-243.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [12:55] what? [12:55] alreadygone: not you [12:55] phew [12:56] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Client Quit [12:56] prashant (n=prashant@122.172.55.149) joined ##slackware. [12:56] hello everyone [12:59] i need help in sharing slack with windows in home network [12:59] songohan (n=songohan@ALyon-553-1-146-28.w92-145.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:00] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.82) joined ##slackware. [13:01] prashant, have you tried the slackbook? [13:02] matu (i=1000@client80-83-43-194.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: "Leaving" [13:02] matu (i=1000@client80-83-43-194.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [13:03] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.28.99) joined ##slackware. [13:03] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [13:04] alreadygone: i have an another pc running xp. i need to access files and folders on that [13:04] read chapter 5 of the book i mentioned [13:04] prashant: samba [13:05] hitest (n=hitest@64.114.226.228) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:05] http://www.slackbook.org/html/network-configuration.html [13:05] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [13:05] spook: actually i am quite new to linux. so, i don't know about samba [13:06] smbclient -U xpmachine\user //xpmachine/sharedir -c "get foo /home/me/foo" [13:06] alreadygone: i will go through that [13:07] Action: alreadygone is reading http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:usbboot [13:07] miltux (n=miltux@ppp182-226.adsl.forthnet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [13:09] Axius (n=ade@92.84.26.236) left irc: "Leaving" [13:10] prashant (n=prashant@122.172.55.149) left irc: "Leaving" [13:10] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:10] prashant (n=prashant@122.172.55.149) joined ##slackware. [13:11] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [13:14] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.155.252) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:14] how to use DCOP on slackware ? [13:15] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [13:18] fonseg (n=bnguyen@118.71.161.155) joined ##slackware. [13:19] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.129.40) joined ##slackware. [13:19] hi there [13:19] hi metrofox [13:20] hi fire|bird [13:21] is there a command to change the kernel used on slack? i mean a command to auto-symlink vmlinuz, config, System.map in /boot to the proper files. [13:22] fonseg, change liloconfig? [13:22] you can add the kernel you want. or before it boots you can give it the kernel you want [13:23] millennia (n=millenni@c-76-19-53-234.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:23] lotec: i dual-boot slack and debian, and use debian's grub for chosing menu. so cannot use liloconfig [13:24] so add another line to grub for the other kernel you want to use [13:24] you can also drop into the grub menu and boot the kernel from there by giving it the kernel you want [13:25] fonseg, I'm curious, is the debian install much different than the slackware install? [13:27] serek_ (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:28] hi, i have a problem i am unable to locate "kdelibs4c2a [13:28] lotec: ok, that'll work. but i'm just curious is there a way to solve this without touching menu.lst, which means auto-symlinks vmlinuz, config, System.map to proper files. [13:28] i would want to use dcop [13:28] what should i do please ? [13:29] time to install Slackware64 [13:29] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.1.241) left irc: "Leaving" [13:29] i did dig the french forum and google but nothing helped me [13:29] fonseg, i dont know what you want. there is no other way to boot a kernel unless you tell grub what to boot. what ar you going to symlinks to? to get it to boot different? how hard is it to vi /boot/menu.list and add 4 lines?? [13:30] oobe (n=none@220.244.162.235) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:30] Nick change: hy -> silver [13:30] matu, is kdelibs4c2a a file on your harddrive? [13:30] Nick change: silver -> hy [13:30] no it is a package, i dont know how to find the right binaries, so i looked for dcopserver [13:31] MadSlacker (n=freaky@59.177.111.222) joined ##slackware. [13:31] i tried to install kdelibs4c2a because i dont have the manpage of dcopserver [13:32] i'm unable to mount my windows partition on slackware 13 [13:32] matu - http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=sourcenames&keywords=kdelibs [13:32] prashant, its a sign [13:33] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [13:33] lotec: what sign? [13:33] what cmd you using to mount it? and what error does it give? [13:33] serek (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:33] millennia: much different. in debian install, it first install the base system, than you choose additional features such as Desktop Environment, Printer Server, Web server... That way i think it makes easier when installing a server [13:33] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.129.40) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:34] fonseg, I was asking because I can't get slack 13 to install and no one seems able to help [13:34] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [13:34] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.129.40) joined ##slackware. [13:35] millennia: what are you trying to install it onto? [13:35] dual pentium 3 1ghz 1.5gb ram all scsi with a firewire card [13:35] lotec: i'm trying to access it directly by going in home and clicking on windows partition [13:36] millennia: how are you trying to install it? cd/dvd/usb/net? [13:36] prashant, so it is mounted? did you check dmesg? is ntfs support in the kernel? [13:36] from cd (scsi cdrom) [13:37] prashant: what mount command? [13:37] and what's your error? [13:37] millennia ^^^^ [13:37] skysong, i dont think he is issuing one. it is just showing it in /home [13:37] After I've successfully fdisked and installed all the packages it crashes in one of two ways when it's supposed to start the configuring [13:38] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:38] millennia, do you mean i have to compile it ? because i used sbopkg and it find nothing [13:38] lotec: the slackware entry in menu.lst now has the kernel vmlinuz, which symlinks to huge kernel. of course it's not hard to add few lines into menu.lst, but i want to find a way to change the default kernel for slackware to boot, which means changing the symlink for vmlinuz i guess [13:38] first way is that it starts the script rescan-scsi-bus, and everything locks up [13:39] skysong: it's already mounted. when i'm tryn to access it it shows " could not enter folder /mnt/windows" [13:39] second way is that ash segfaults, it doesn't lock up but the configuring never happens [13:39] millennia: installing debian is easy, where are you stuck at? [13:39] I'm thinking about deboan now, that's why I was asking if it was much different [13:39] prashant: i had this problem today, chmod in /mnt/windows could help [13:40] v4nelle (n=van@adsl172-222.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:40] fonseg, that vmlinuz you have in menu.lst now is completley different. it will not work unless you make another vmlinuz [13:40] fire|bird: this blog post made my day: http://www.rogueamoeba.com/utm/2009/11/13/airfoil-speakers-touch-1-0-1-finally-ships \o/ (be sure to see the last screenshot ;) ) [13:41] skysong: after changing permissions also it's showing same error [13:42] Camarade_Tux: hahaha, nice. :) [13:42] prashant: chmod a+rwx /mnt/windows/*.*? [13:43] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [13:43] hello [13:44] skysong: same error [13:44] hello godling [13:44] matu, I can find the package source for ubuntu and debian, but they list it as unstable/security problem [13:44] prashant: how did you mount it? [13:44] fonseg, is this a new kernel you built? [13:44] ah ok thank you [13:45] skysong: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/win [13:45] at least i learned i can easily compile the debian sources lol [13:45] lotec: i make an initrd.gz and change from huge to generic [13:45] prashant: try adding it to your fstab and the mount -a [13:46] though im not sure its going to help.. [13:46] If I use less to view a large file, then use it to view a smaller file, I almost always see buffer contents from the old file. Is there a way to make that not happen? [13:46] I tried the -C switch but that doesn't seem to help. [13:46] so you used a kernel from the cd? [13:47] skysong: ok [13:47] fonseg you used a cd kernel? [13:47] fire|bird: not nice! terrific! [13:47] ;-) [13:47] Camarade_Tux: true :) [13:48] lotec: so i want to change the vmlinuz symlink to generic, and ofcourse i can do it manually, but prefer a method to do it automatically (have to change 3 symlinks, not 1) [13:48] lotec: what is cd kernel? [13:48] fonseg, if there is a way to do that i dont know how. sorry i can help [13:48] should prashent's "mount -t ntfs" be "mount -t ntfs-3g"? [13:48] hmmm, can strong, sugary beer freeze at more than -18C? :P [13:48] fonseg, the kernel from the slack cd [13:49] hah. nevermind [13:49] lotec: yes [13:49] apparently I didn't export LESS after I changed it [13:49] Camarade_Tux: put it to the test. :P [13:49] fire|bird: and this guy deserves a medal, that's the best idea and answer I've seen in weeks (ore more) [13:49] lol [13:49] fire|bird: did but now I have to take the beer off the fridge and drink it :P [13:49] haha [13:49] anyway, gotta go, bbl :) [13:49] see ya Camarade_Tux :) [13:49] anyone see where jkwood made it on noobfarm? [13:49] that is a great post [13:50] fonseg (n=bnguyen@118.71.161.155) left irc: "leaving" [13:50] is it? [13:50] godling: http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1785 [13:51] I think it's a derivative of that xkcd joke [13:51] I just read fire|bird [13:51] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@67.191.58.46) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:51] *just read it [13:51] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:51] greetings and salutations [13:51] greetings andarius, how are you? [13:51] hi [13:51] andarius: hello [13:51] salutations fire|bird, i am well. sleepy but well. you? [13:52] andarius: I am great, thank you. :) [13:52] salutations godling and lotec [13:52] perhaps i need to go back to bed after all [13:52] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [13:53] resolve that sleepyness [13:53] prashant (n=prashant@122.172.55.149) left irc: "Leaving" [13:53] | .coffee /home/andarius [13:54] make $$ make drink [13:54] s/coffee/benzedrine/ [13:54] i usually | .coke to myself [13:54] actualy i am preparing to make waffles :) [13:54] if it's good enough for soldiers it's good enough for us! [13:55] | .lotec /home/andarius [13:55] gotta love automated PXE boot builds [13:56] enter MAC, select OS + filesystem layout, application profile... connect to switch & power on, walk away and BEER ME [13:56] nice [13:57] 7 minutes later its ready to go back into the box :> [13:57] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-53-250.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [13:58] are you installing Linux on machines that you're distributing somehow? [13:58] that's neat [13:58] pretty much yes [13:59] work? [13:59] yeah, its for large distributed computing clusters that we have [13:59] beats swinging a hammer :) [14:00] millennia (n=millenni@c-76-19-53-234.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:00] indeed [14:00] how big is your biggest cluster? [14:01] 13,824 cores.. should grow to 23,040 by the end of the Q1 2010 [14:01] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:02] I had a whopping four nodes in my old/first cluster over ten years ago [14:02] fuck me that's a lot jdog [14:02] it's big [14:02] I bet it gets warm [14:02] what're you guys computing? [14:02] "anything we want, basically" [14:02] ;P [14:03] jdog, uses it to ddos jkwood [14:03] yeah, we use it for a lot of things [14:03] anything from deep inspection on terabyte pcap files to analyzing web logs [14:04] a lot of computational fluid dynamics [14:04] yeah, that would be one of the only reasons to need that many flops [14:04] some kind of simulation, I mean [14:04] Axius (n=ade@92.84.26.236) joined ##slackware. [14:05] i think i like this netbook [14:05] we've had deployments in the 90,000 core range.. but this one is brand new.. 0day modern hardware technology [14:05] still have to get used to it though. [14:05] so it kills all of our old stuff [14:05] you said a magic number -- I know Roadrunner has 13824 cores -- you don't work for IBM do you? [14:06] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.56.71) joined ##slackware. [14:06] nope [14:06] htttp://www.rwc.uc.edu/chisko/mathanxiety/attitudes.html [14:07] http://www.rwc.uc.edu/chisko/mathanxiety/attitudes.html [14:07] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Roadrunner_supercomputer_HiRes.jpg <- shiny [14:07] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-247-216-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: [14:07] skysong_ (n=indecent@ADSL-TPLUS-84-183.telecomplus.net) joined ##slackware. [14:07] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [14:07] yeah [14:07] we couldn't afford something like that [14:07] look at all those other cabinets just waiting for components [14:07] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-82-93.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:08] I don't know if IBM or NSA scares me more. ;) [14:08] everything was built from the ground up to be dedicated to our operations, so the performance per $ is several times that of anything available "off the shelf" from supercomptuer manufacturers [14:09] godling: offtopic goes to ##offtopic-math [14:09] the downside is that it took a good year to develop everything as opposed to buying something off the shelf [14:09] Axius (n=ade@92.84.26.236) left irc: Client Quit [14:09] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-247-216-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:09] Masterx831: what? [14:10] thta is what i was going to say [14:10] Masterx831: wrong channel? [14:10] :) [14:10] whoops :> [14:11] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/sanzilla) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:11] Nick change: Intel[R]VT-x_ -> Intel[R]VT-x [14:12] oops [14:12] lmao [14:12] and more importantly, slackware powered since day 1 :P [14:12] I'm sorry I jsut pulled a allnighter took me awhile to see what I just did [14:12] MadSlacker (n=freaky@59.177.111.222) left ##slackware. [14:12] I'm afraid I cant sleep yet because I';m still studying [14:12] and my eyes are just dying to close [14:12] lol [14:13] Masterx831: Offtopic goes to #SlackOfftopic [14:13] ;P [14:13] haha [14:13] Masterx831: IRC helps studying, I find. [14:13] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [14:14] its this math course that i just started this week [14:14] Axius (n=ade@92.84.26.236) joined ##slackware. [14:15] godling: very funny by thge way I have slackware 12.2 :-P [14:15] Axius (n=ade@92.84.26.236) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:15] to make this interesting how come my kernel says this [14:15] 2.6.27.7-smp [14:15] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.70.104) joined ##slackware. [14:16] why does it have smp at the end [14:16] I want it to say 2.6.27.7-smp [14:16] pireau (i=1000@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [14:17] umm, isnt that the same thing ? [14:17] smp = symmetric multiprocessing [14:17] and -smp means the kernel is smp capable [14:17] i.e.; more than 1 core [14:18] http://www.google.com/trends?q=slackware&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 [14:19] it's true, sw|init[1] [14:20] :D [14:20] 1. Bulgaria [14:20] O_o^ [14:20] is that true ? [14:20] songohan (n=songohan@ALyon-553-1-146-28.w92-145.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:21] sw|init[1]: http://www.google.com/trends?q=slackware%2C+ubuntu%2C+redhat%2C+debian%2C+gentoo&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 [14:21] godling: that was a nice trick :D [14:22] giuppy (n=giuppy@host43-160-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "leaving" [14:22] sw|init[1]: Ubuntu smokes every other distribution in terms of Google queries [14:22] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [14:22] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:22] skysong (n=indecent@41.136.196.73) left irc: Connection timed out [14:22] It's a very popular distribution. [14:22] godling: let consider only gentoo debain slackware :) [14:22] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:22] giuppy (n=giuppy@host43-160-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:22] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:23] http://www.google.com/trends?q=slackware%2C+debian%2C+gentoo&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 [14:23] please don't stop linux distro flame war here please [14:23] * start [14:23] I'm not starting a flamewar. [14:23] At least, that is not my intention. [14:23] not you just a request from everyone nice request [14:24] Intel[R]VT-x: Do you know what a self-fulfilling prophecy is? [14:24] don't know but I think offtopic here so do not [14:24] we are just exploring the trends and btw there are no other distro guys here (may be few) [14:25] Intel[R]VT-x: btw define offtopic [14:25] Nick change: serek_ -> serek [14:25] lordkelmain (n=lordkelm@ip68-5-13-113.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:25] a self-fulfilling prophecy is like when Anakin turns to the dark side in order to save Padme but ends up killing her _because_ he turned to the dark side [14:25] godling: :D [14:25] sort of like asking people not to start a flamewar can start a flamewar :P [14:25] *how asking [14:26] lol [14:26] sw|init[1] there is no hard and fast rule about offtopic here but the appropriate place to ask other linux distro questions is their relative channels [14:26] o_O^ [14:26] Intel[R]VT-x: nobody is asking questions [14:27] Intel[R]VT-x: put away your hall monitor badge :P [14:27] Intel[R]VT-x: just make sure that your DSP (Digital Signal Processor) and ADC is working fine :) [14:27] graz (i=ardy@unaffiliated/ardya) joined ##slackware. [14:28] nobody is asking questions, it is just a discussion. For the most part, offtopic is ok here, providing that there isn't on-topic help going on. [14:28] hi folks [14:28] hi graz [14:28] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:28] fire|bird: why is it okay to hyphenate on-topic but not offtopic? [14:28] fire|bird: HOW DARE YOU [14:28] godling: just a typographical error, sorry. :P [14:28] s/offtopic/off-topic/ [14:28] happy? [14:29] :P [14:29] \m/ [14:29] Action: andarius hyphenates fire-|bird :o [14:29] lol [14:29] linuxpackages.net, those familiar with it, hasn't been processing slack 13.0 pkg submissions, has anyone been in contact with its owner/maintainer? [14:29] linuxpackages.net isn't official [14:29] I know [14:29] nor supported here [14:29] graz: don't use that site [14:29] I dodnt ask if it was official. [14:29] graz: your ultimate solution slackbuilds.org [14:30] graz: I haven't contacted anyone at that site, no. [14:30] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.28.99) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:31] The_Seeker (n=seeker@90.200.153.19) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:31] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [14:31] lordkelmain (n=lordkelm@ip68-5-13-113.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:32] slackbuilds.org isn't the same thing as what linuxpackages offers, while its nice to have a repository for build scripts, havng one, in English, for pkgs is nice too...ok well thanks for your time, and responses, have a great day all [14:32] graz (i=ardy@unaffiliated/ardya) left ##slackware. [14:32] wtf is with that guy [14:33] nerd rage [14:33] expecting a debian repository or something? [14:33] yea [14:33] it is one of the primary factors I am considering a career in fry cookery [14:34] lol [14:34] haha [14:36] Hello [14:36] oh, you thought I was joking :P [14:36] hi songohan [14:36] LITB_ (n=LITB@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [14:36] godling, fry cooker extraordinaire. [14:37] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:37] wicd display my access point as hidden, but my ap is viewable with iwlist wlan0 scanning [14:37] how can i fix this ? [14:37] I just need to find a deep fat fryer that can fit more than one person [14:37] requesting permissions to private message graz. [14:37] songohan: running wicd 1.6.2.1? [14:37] graz left [14:38] yes [14:38] upgrade to 1.6.2.2 [14:38] oky I will ask public , what is a build script repository ? [14:38] how it works ? [14:38] my version is bugged ? [14:38] lol [14:38] very much so [14:38] Intel[R]VT-x: go www.slackbuilds.org read FAQ [14:38] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [14:38] slackbuilds.org slackbuilds.org/howto/ Intel[R]VT-x, go read those. [14:39] songohan: Then delete the /etc/wicd/wireless-settings.conf [14:39] as well as http://www.slackbuilds.org/faq/ [14:39] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:40] How to upgrade. I can find a slackbuild somewhere ? [14:41] songohan: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/extra/source/wicd/ [14:41] songohan: upgrade what ? [14:41] sw|init[1]: wicd [14:41] Action: NaCl wonders why pat didn't upgrade the package for slackware-13.0 [14:41] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [14:41] upgrade wicd [14:41] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [14:41] songohan: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/extra/wicd/wicd-1.6.2.2-i486-1.txz [14:41] songohan: You can get the slackbuild, etc. from the link I gave above. [14:42] or NaCl's link for a package. :P [14:42] songohan: either use the link ^ / configure slackpkg / use the DVD /extra [14:42] how redundant [14:42] : thank you [14:42] Action: andarius would like to note that mixing -current and other version packages is gerneraly a bad idea [14:43] andarius: in this case, python hasn't changed [14:43] But yes, it is generally a bad idea [14:43] :is generaly" [14:43] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:43] s/:/"/ [14:44] matu (i=1000@client80-83-43-194.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:45] i have to remove wicd before the upgrade or the sb will do it ? [14:45] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [14:45] songohan: the slackbuilds will make a package, you can then use upgradepkg to upgrade wicd. [14:45] s/slackbuilds/slackbuild/ [14:45] off course,i've forget it [14:46] i use slackware since today... [14:46] matu (i=1000@client80-83-43-194.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [14:46] i've forgot it [14:46] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:47] lordkelmain (n=lordkelm@ip68-5-13-113.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] i got php file_get_contents() to work on slackware64 [14:48] matu (i=1000@client80-83-43-194.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:48] i recompiled php without --with-curlwrappers [14:49] hayaka: wow,nice [14:49] matu (i=1000@client80-83-43-194.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [14:51] the weird thing is curlwrappers works fine on slackware32 [14:55] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c6290f@gateway/web/freenode/x-ficvalnunjsmzvtk) joined ##slackware. [14:57] later [14:57] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [14:57] any idea why i get this message from irssi ? i didn't change any config [14:58] Warning: Configuration file was modified while irssi was running. Saving configuration to file '/home/buffer/.irssi/config.autosave' instead. Use /SAVE or /RELOAD to get rid of this message. [15:00] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:02] good evening :-) [15:02] yo macavity [15:02] greetings macavity, how are you? [15:02] great.. fever is gone, and i only cough a little now and then [15:02] and you guys? [15:03] alienBOB: thanks for the VLC patch :) [15:03] macavity: great, thanks. :) [15:03] oh, changelog is hot [15:04] Nick change: Intel[R]VT-x -> alienB0B [15:04] Nick change: alienB0B -> Intel[R]VT-x [15:04] ??? [15:04] omg! [15:04] are people so crazy [15:04] seamonkey upgraded [15:05] who bans him? [15:05] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: "That's my story, and I'm sticking to it." [15:05] .. but apparently nothing on the supposed security issues [15:06] Nick change: Intel[R]VT-x -> alienB0B [15:06] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-53-250.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving." [15:06] Fleurety (n=fleurety@93.186.164.51) joined ##slackware. [15:06] Nick change: alienB0B -> Guest77674 [15:06] Nick change: Guest77674 -> alienB6B [15:07] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-53-250.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [15:07] OP? [15:07] alienBOB: ping! [15:07] Fleurety (n=fleurety@93.186.164.51) left ##slackware. [15:07] Nick change: alienB6B -> alienBOY [15:08] someone is just trying to see if they can get a k-line really quick [15:08] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:08] ... and i *bet* it is working [15:08] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c6290f@gateway/web/freenode/x-ficvalnunjsmzvtk) left irc: [15:08] Nick change: alienBOY -> alienB08 [15:09] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:09] what's this guy up to? [15:09] alienB08: : restore your nick back,or else you may face sm kinda ban [15:09] The_Seeker: being an idiot apparently. [15:09] or extreem K-line [15:09] Nick change: alienB08 -> Intel[R]VT-x [15:09] sw|init[1]: if he succedes in what he is attempting he will get a freenode wide ban (aka k-line) [15:10] hm [15:10] macavity: He's already been devoiced, etc. in this channel before. :) [15:10] k-line - sounds like a drug thing [15:10] i think it feels more like being a very very sobering exprience [15:10] The_Seeker: or an I.V. "run a k-line, stat." :P [15:10] it is at that point he will realize either of two: [15:11] fire|bird: lol [15:11] a) that he is and idiot who needs to adjust to the world around him, or [15:11] b) the world is always just happening on him for no apparent reason [15:11] Nick change: Intel[R]VT-x -> sw|init[2] [15:11] wtf [15:11] alienBOB: requesting a temporary OP [15:12] guaxinim (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [15:12] if it is the b) option, there is no other hope than to go on Ricky Lake [15:12] for me [15:12] sw|init[2] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/sanzilla) left ##slackware. [15:12] lol [15:12] that worked [15:12] macavity: lol [15:12] sw|init[1]: yeah, for now. :P [15:12] Action: macavity +b *@unaffiliated/sanzilla [15:12] sadas (n=cra@dyn-89.136.51.50.cj.upcnet.ro) joined ##slackware. [15:13] where's rworkman? [15:13] so what's the consensus on -current? stable, a little buggy, very buggy? [15:13] stable [15:13] The_Seeker: awesome atm [15:13] of course [15:13] been running stable for around a week now, thinking of going to -current [15:14] sadas (n=cra@dyn-89.136.51.50.cj.upcnet.ro) left irc: Client Quit [15:14] andarius: thank you! [15:14] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-137-121.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:14] The_Seeker: honnestly, if they upgraded the kernel to latest .31.x and rammed it out the door as 13.1 lotsa people would probably be very happy with it [15:14] Masterx831: for what ? [15:14] for telling me about smp [15:14] ohai andarius [15:14] umm, ok. yw [15:14] macavity: the main reason I'm wanting to upgrade is for KDE 4.3.3 [15:14] salutations macavity [15:14] jesus! linux is so complicated [15:15] it can be, but any OS is at the deeper levels [15:15] Fleurety (n=fleurety@93.186.164.51) joined ##slackware. [15:15] The_Seeker: whith the phonon stuff fixed Arkanodi shut up here, and everything works as advertized [15:15] macavity: then again, I'm thinking "If it ain't broke..." [15:15] oh, on prestine 13.0 several things were quasi broken for me [15:15] The_Seeker: If it ain't broke, upgrade it. :P [15:16] songohan (n=songohan@ALyon-553-1-146-28.w92-145.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:16] fire|bird: I like your style [15:16] a) Intel graphics doesnt start working untill .31, b) KDE 4.2.x wont let me set the kinds of previews i want.. it is either all or nothing [15:17] running Debian Unstable for so long gave me an itch for the latest packages [15:17] and that is simply unacceptable to me, as i do *not* what previews on my 10k .ps/.pdf files... but i do want it on my images and, erm, filmic material [15:18] filmic material eh? [15:18] documentaries etc? ;) [15:19] riiight... documentaries [15:19] emphasis on the etc [15:19] well.. they do document some sort of conduct [15:19] lol [15:19] talking about documentaries, have you guys seen Zeitgeist Addendum yet? 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[15:20] it is so absolutely worth the watch [15:20] macavity: have it downloaded, haven't watched it yet [15:20] dont wait [15:20] macavity: looked pretty much the same as the zeitgeist [15:20] john_dee: yes, but more digestable to people in the bible belt.. and imho, a little better structured [15:20] : Thank you very much, it works :) [15:21] The_Seeker: you will have two very fun hours ahead of you [15:21] songohan: you're welcome. :) [15:22] macavity: unfortunately, this info will most likely be ignored. whether it has something in common with reality %) [15:23] i just, first of all, like to spread the knowledge to people that the "federal reserve" is as federal as the federal express... and that the fractional reserve system is mathemathecally proven to end in economic collaps [15:23] if we get rid of those money nazis, only the sky is the limit [15:24] alienBOB, i red your qemu article on the wiki, answered a lot of questions, thanks. very complete [15:24] where the collective of man will want to go from there is another story all together... as in, it is hard predict.. especially about the future :P [15:25] *hard to [15:25] songohan: btw you can use [tab] key to complete nicks [15:25] lol [15:25] man.. that all in all just didnt translate well... [15:26] omg absense of *to* make much diff [15:26] history kinda shows that the collective of man doesn't want to go anywhere :D [15:26] :i don't understand what you mean [15:26] Action: john_dee brings his apologies for being realistic. lol [15:26] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:26] english is not my mother tongue [15:27] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:27] back a bit later, -current beckons [15:27] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:27] john_dee: well.. as long as we have power structures who seem intent on repeating history, i have to agree with you on that one [15:27] Nick change: guaxinim -> guax [15:28] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:28] john_dee: that is why i would like to see what happened if we threw these thugs out the door.. we dont need them.. our own government can perfectly well cope with not having to pay interest on its own loans [15:28] *governments [15:31] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-82-93.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:31] Nick change: sw|init[1] -> init[6] [15:32] my keyboard is set in azerty for all except when i'm logging with kdm [15:32] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl3-224-237.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:32] how to set kdm with azerty also ? [15:33] macavity: but they need us %) would be interesting to see that happen, but that's a kind of unrealistic scenario, i must say [15:35] it's just a matter of placing the right men in the right positions. they tell what they has to tell and everything stays the way it was [15:36] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:36] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:36] beatzz (i=1000@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [15:36] full screen VLC is chopy [15:36] i have had this problem befor [15:37] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [15:37] but dont remember exactly what the solution was [15:38] Someone knows why my keyboard is set in qwerty rather than azerty only with kdm (kde desktop manager) ? 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[15:48] that utterly must suck for some one like you [15:49] telco/VoIP stuff [15:49] it's cool though [15:49] adrenaline (n=repsol@tuxhacker/adrenaline) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:49] btw, do you know if the Atheros 6000 series need two or three wires for the antennas? [15:49] ath6k [15:49] is it MIMO? [15:50] I'm not really familiar with the 6ks yet [15:50] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:50] i dont know.. i was just thinking about it.. rumor has it that ath6k is getting good stability now, and i would [still] like to ditch the Intel 3945 i have [15:51] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:51] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:51] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:52] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:53] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [15:53] btw, i think that "file" has some problems.. try "file /lib/firmware/*.cis" [15:53] MT5634ZLX.cis: PDP-11 UNIX/RT ldp [15:53] ? [15:54] even better: rt2561.bin: Minix filesystem, 30 char names [15:54] `/lib/firmware/*.cis' (No such file or directory) <-- :p [15:54] nice [15:55] it is the last peice of crapware on my system [15:55] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] the firmware or the file ? [15:56] s/or the/or/ [15:57] the firmware package [15:57] macavity: well, is very hard to have one utility (like "file") to know about firmware files. [15:57] PiterPunk: i know.. i just think it is funny when it detects something as something completely else [15:57] yes, is really funny [15:58] PiterPunk: obviously, for speed reasons it can only look for "tell tale" bits.. and not actually attempt to verify that it is a compleate and valid file [15:58] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] playing with a for loop, /dev/urandom and dd can give you many kinds of funny files [15:59] bzflag savegames seems to be popular :P [15:59] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [15:59] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:00] heya hitest :) [16:00] hi fire|bird:) [16:00] macavity: I remember when need to found a boot sector in a firmware file I run "file", strip some bytes, run "file", strip some bytes [16:01] after some type I found the vxworks boot -;) [16:02] awesome :-) [16:03] PiterPunk: are you working with some of the *WRT projects and/or other router software? [16:03] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:04] Anyone have any suggestions on maintaining a local mirror of Slackware FTP without using too much bandwidth (either mine or Oregon State University's)? [16:05] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:05] macavity: old and stupid set-top-box [16:06] okies [16:07] veritos: use rsync against osuosl [16:07] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] macavity, rsync works, I just wasn't sure whether it was allowed [16:07] veritos: then you will recive the updates as deltas [16:07] veritos: oh yes, osousl runs the rsync daemon for just that very reason [16:08] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [16:08] veritos: where do you live? [16:08] dont tell him, hell come to your house :o [16:08] macavity, Seattle area [16:08] wildblue.net doesnt tell me a whole lot :P [16:08] doh ! [16:09] oh.. i dont even know where Seattle is.. if it is up north you may want to try rsync against slackware.no [16:09] they have a 10Gb pipe [16:09] macavity, oh, sorry. It's about 400km from the OSUOSL mirror in real life. [16:10] ok, then that is probably what you want to use :P [16:10] Plus I've got straight Internet2 to that mirror *grin* [16:10] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:10] okies... then its just a slam dunk then [16:11] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] nix_chix0r: hey girl :-) long time no see [16:13] speed_ (n=claudio@ip-route.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:14] someone already set raid5?? [16:18] speed_: huh? [16:18] hey.. [16:18] the ucode for ipw3945 is regular 586 code... [16:19] lol.. i can see the RC4 code here :-) [16:20] Nick change: emma_ -> emma [16:20] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:22] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [16:23] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:24] ananke need configure raid5 in slackware 13 [16:24] speed_: and? 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[16:27] so sorry to Brazil and my English and little [16:28] beatzz__ (i=1000@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:28] speed_: Read the README. When you have doubts, we'll try to help you. [16:30] ok thanks [16:30] Masterx841 (n=masterx8@adsl-85-40-111.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:30] now running -current, everything running nicely [16:31] speed_: read it from beginning to end 2 or 3 times before you begin.. then it is not hard [16:31] ok [16:32] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-169-135.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:33] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-169-135.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [16:33] PiterPunk: how good are you at reading assembler code? [16:34] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:34] The_Seeker: is current bing updated again [16:34] siimo: -current is hot [16:35] siimo: KDE 4.3.3 and other goodies [16:35] -current is boring [16:35] thrice`: I'm having fun with that :) [16:35] macavity: no-good [16:35] for non-kde users, anyway [16:35] kde is not a goodie, it is a baddie :P [16:35] i dont use kde [16:35] I ran Arch testing for a good bit. Of course, with Arch, the difference between testing and stable is about two hours. [16:35] lol [16:36] Action: PiterPunk likes KDE4 [16:36] me too [16:36] PiterPunk: sorry for the question, but where are you from? :) [16:36] sure, but it'd be nice if Pat were to update other stuff too [16:36] it took a while of cursing and bitching to get used to.. but now i like it better than 3.x [16:36] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [16:37] The early adopters got a bad impression with 4.0 sucking so hard. [16:37] 4.3 is solid, though. [16:37] metrofox: Brazil, why? [16:38] PiterPunk: only curious, I thought you were Spanish or Italian... :) [16:38] veritos: 4.0 was BAD. :P [16:38] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:38] 4.0 was a feature preview/codefreeze :P [16:38] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [16:39] metrofox: Probably some wrong syntax -;) [16:39] Hi everyone [16:39] PiterPunk: hey Piter, how are you? [16:39] hi gar0t0 [16:39] macavity: I know. :P [16:39] gar0t0: I hope better than you -:) [16:39] :P [16:39] PiterPunk: are you working today ? [16:39] PiterPunk: thank you for your great job on slackware though :) [16:39] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.2.175.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:40] RvnPhnx (n=n1xim@66-252-48-181.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net) joined ##slackware. [16:40] macavity, you ever have dolphin lock up for 5 to 10 seconds when highlithing a bunch of files ? [16:40] yes [16:40] i figured out what is causing it [16:40] dolphin seems to have gotten a little problem of sorts with 4.3.3 [16:40] lordkelmain (n=lordkelm@ip68-5-13-113.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:40] oh? [16:40] gar0t0: thanks God, no. [16:40] previews? [16:40] metrofox: thanks! [16:40] Our friend Intel[R]VT-x will not re-join us the next 3 months as long as he tries @unaffiliated/sanzilla [16:40] PiterPunk: hehe!! -secret [16:40] hey alienBOB :) [16:40] Masterx831 (n=masterx8@adsl-85-40-111.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:41] Action: macavity cheers at alienBOB [16:41] evviva! we won't see him again! [16:41] Fucking dimwit he is [16:41] PiterPunk: join on secret channel please! I need to talk about today [16:41] alienBOB: Hi :) [16:41] Scuzz: so, are you going to spill your secret, or just kill me with the suspense? :P [16:41] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "some things require maint., to fail in that is to fail" [16:41] disable the Enable Nepomuck Symantic Desktopm otpion [16:41] stringi [16:42] its the first thing i do after an install [16:42] and the issue dissapeard [16:42] s/stringi/strigi/ ;) [16:42] havnt seen it happen once [16:42] I'm having trouble getting my mouse to work in X on a previously 12.0 install that I just over-wrote with 13.0. I've already done all of the HAL config mitigation patching (so that I can still use a KVM), but my mouse still doesn't work--at all. Any suggestions? [16:42] lol yeha [16:42] its the file tagging that casues it [16:42] RvnPhnx, did you kill your xorg.conf ? [16:42] you kow the stars rating thingy [16:43] Scuzz: Having the information pane open doesn't help things either I've found. [16:43] Scuzz: here it only hangs the first time i enter a dir with lots of subdirs (and only if previews are enabled) [16:43] Scuzz: after the first time, it is just as snappy as it used to be [16:43] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:43] thrice` the new one worked worse than just going back to the manpages and making the old one comply with the new spec [16:43] it happens with me if i highlight a bunch of files to copy or move elsewhere [16:43] ZMR_ (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [16:43] also [16:43] oh.. havent seen that [16:43] let me look into it [16:43] fight fight fight! [16:43] i havnt ever seen dolphin crash with that dissabled [16:44] RvnPhnx, hal wil handle all input related things through evdev; your xorg.conf shouldn't have any reference to keyboard/mouse/touchpad , if possible [16:44] Action: Masterx841 announces the scene [16:44] thrice` the new one doesn't ever test out [16:44] ACT 1 SCENE 1 "fighting in slackware" [16:44] thrice` are you using a KVM? [16:44] Scuzz: can you just disable it in dolphin, or do you have to disable it globally? [16:44] nope [16:44] ok [16:45] macavity, i jsut disable it in the advanced settings [16:45] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [16:45] thrice` I had to force it not to autodetect anything just to see my keyboard at all, probably due to my use of a KVM based on what I've read thus far (thanks to Google) [16:45] System settings > advanced > Desktop search [16:46] Scuzz: which "advanced settings"? [16:46] ah ok [16:47] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left ##slackware. [16:47] Scuzz: uhm, that will kill the fancy things that Alt-F2 can do these days [16:47] alt f2 still works [16:48] eg, i hit alt-f2 and type "ftp.sla[enter]" and it just brings up ftp.slackware.no because it is in my recent browser histroy [16:49] could not connect [16:50] macavity: strigi, etc. is what controls that feature? [16:50] Do Strigi and friends work a bit better in 4.3.3/-current? [16:51] I'm almost done rebuilding the whole telco phone box on this place [16:51] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: "Leaving" [16:51] veritos: yes, they seem to. [16:51] fire|bird: come again? [16:51] it was a total disaster with lines that had just been finger twisted together, cross connected lines and even grounded pairs [16:52] looks like a bunch of monkeys did it [16:52] lol [16:52] Sounds like my digital design homework! [16:52] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:52] lol [16:52] macavity: sorry. :P What were you saying disables alt-f2 features? :P [16:52] antiwire I've had to fix places that Verizon left in that state (residential) [16:52] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:53] i dont get as clever suggetsions in alt-f2 if i disable nepomuk/strigi [16:53] i really like alt-f2->fire[enter] and it launches firefox [16:53] matu (i=1000@client80-83-43-194.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: "Leaving" [16:53] and stuff like that [16:53] dophin will crash on me now and then with that option enabled [16:53] macavity: ah, ok.:) [16:53] it hasnt picked the wrong thing yet [16:53] i havnt had one issue with dolphin for months with it dissabled [16:53] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "brb" [16:54] alt-f2 seems pretty un-natural :) why not set it to alt+space or something easier? [16:54] it has never crashed here.. just hung for a while, and then come back [16:54] mine would crash randomly if i had it open and was working in a terminal [16:54] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-139-180.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:54] random times [16:55] thrice`: yeah, it's sure a stretch to hit that key combo. [16:55] thrice`: i'm a touch typist.. i dont really care what they key combo is.. [16:55] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [16:55] it is? [16:55] i must have long fingers then :P [16:55] matu (i=1000@client80-83-43-194.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [16:56] thumb on Alt and middle finger hits F2 [16:56] left alt+space is what I use [16:56] matu (i=1000@client80-83-43-194.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:56] macavity: that's how I do it too, but it's still a stretch, could be a closer combo. [16:56] for left + right thumb ;) [16:56] i never even noticed untill you said so that this is a funny movement to do.. [16:56] Feels a bit more natural than Super-R like on Windows [16:56] lol [16:57] esp. when you hit Super with your thumb [16:57] hitting Super with my thumb is a nogo on this keyboard [16:57] that will have to be the ring finger [16:57] I have to reposition my left hand to hit the Super on this keyboard [16:58] using my thumb at least [16:58] talking about keyboards.. i have worn the little knops off f and j [16:59] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:59] and i dont think i can get a new one for this laptop :-/ [16:59] macavity: my c an n are fading [16:59] I've got a Model M. This thing can survive bombings. [16:59] /an/and [16:59] deco: is that because you type "cant" a lot? :P [17:00] my keyboard looks like it has a leopard pattern to it [17:00] macavity: no, he's a "yes" man, so it's "can, can, can" [17:00] coffee spilt all over it [17:00] macavity: :P, i really don't know... it's my wireless keyboard on my laptop it's fine [17:00] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-35.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:00] all this talk of typing makes me want to play typeracer again [17:00] :) [17:00] Action: macavity googles typeracer [17:01] http://thedogpaddler.com/RandomUploads/Ball/ball.htm [17:01] Bye, productivity! [17:01] (warn: Flash) [17:01] eeek [17:01] Action: macavity hisses at it like a cat [17:01] meow [17:01] purrr [17:01] rawr [17:01] O_O [17:02] ok, that was a weak one, sorry. :P [17:02] :P [17:02] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:03] chee_: does the best meow [17:03] or purr actually [17:05] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [17:05] chee_: could your purr for us? i feel challenged by deco's statement :P [17:05] ^_^ [17:06] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-139-180.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:08] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:08] apparently chee_ is a shy kitty. :P [17:09] :P [17:11] Nick change: Masterx841 -> Masterx831 [17:11] aww, Masterx831 lost 10 points. :P [17:14] earp (n=brian@72-4-87-94.gncsin06.customers.broadreach.net) joined ##slackware. [17:15] fire|bird: he battled winter :P [17:15] lol [17:16] hmm i did not config my network when i installed, where to change that eth0 use dhcp [17:17] rc.inet1.conf? [17:17] madbear: yes, /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [17:18] you can run the network config again by using pkgtool if you're lazy like me [17:19] Directly editing rc.inet1.conf is more versatile however [17:19] thanks [17:19] And "man rc.inet1.conf" will guide you [17:19] ok :) .,. jeez my server taking forever compiling virtualbox [17:24] Guest22871 (n=sidmario@189-18-235-248.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:24] Nick change: Guest22871 -> sidmario [17:25] jackMort (n=root@bvv207.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:25] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@66.160.141.30 [17:25] jackMort kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [17:27] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:28] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:33] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:33] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-137-121.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:36] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.21.28) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:38] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.24.107) joined ##slackware. [17:39] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:40] Eh, simple net question, how do I remove previous registered mac from eth0. ( What for ? : For example I wanna use 2 network pcmcia cards but not at the same time, although I'd like them to always be named/recognized as eth0.) Or just for qemu usage... eheh. 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[17:49] try not to wet yourself while the mystery of where Father Christams *really* comes from :P [17:49] haha [17:49] while watching* [17:51] ratdance (n=ratdance@modemcable064.24-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:57] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:57] alienBOB: Ugh... Ok. Though I was expecting some ip command or similar... [17:57] macavity lol great video [17:57] alienBOB: Thanks. [17:57] ratdance (n=ratdance@modemcable064.24-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) left ##slackware. [17:58] matu (i=1000@client80-83-43-194.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [17:58] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-247-216-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: [17:58] I always thought he came from the USA, like Jesus and Stephen Hawking. [18:00] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [18:00] ok.. here is a little more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z4OvK3Vn44 [18:01] in case you want to know what can go wrong when you are around even a well trained Father Christmas [18:03] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:05] alienBOB: "rm /etc/udev/rules.d/75-network-devices.rules" did the job perfectly Thanks again. :) [18:05] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [18:05] I've put it in rc.inet1 stop) ;) [18:06] LITB_ (n=LITB@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:07] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:07] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) joined ##slackware. [18:08] cr3rzemjest (i=1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[18:32] \o/ [18:32] tzlloch (i=ddd51ea1@gateway/web/freenode/x-pvpunlbgzmrptftv) joined ##slackware. [18:32] so anyway today I had an email from a guy at slacky.it + a patch for kqemu to work with 13.0 but I don't recall any problems with it compiling. [18:32] \o/ [18:33] hello [18:33] Nick change: tzlloch -> Guest50549 [18:33] so if anyone else is using kqemu from SBo please let me know any problems [18:33] Nick change: Guest50549 -> tzlloch_ [18:33] hello [18:33] if anyone cares to know, this is a Linksys-Cisco WUSB54GC USB wireless G adapter and it works perfectly with wpa_supplicant [18:33] deco: i forgot my root mysql password. [18:34] acidchil1: :o, removepkg mysql then ? [18:34] how to install plasma theme for slackware 13? [18:34] naw lol [18:34] acidchil1: lol k [18:34] you can start mysql with a init script that flushs and updates the password [18:34] http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html#resetting-permissions-unix [18:34] first hit on google n00b [18:35] thrice`: reading atm [18:35] lol [18:35] n00b yourself [18:35] n00bley d00bley [18:35] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:35] matu (i=1000@client80-83-43-194.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: "Leaving" [18:38] ./kde/share/apps/desktopthemes? [18:39] mysql sucks so bad [18:39] jeeezz [18:40] tzlloch_: right click on the desktop, select desktop settings [18:41] sahk0: there's only 'New Theme' [18:42] sahk0: I've downloaded the theme, how to use the downloaded file? [18:42] tzlloch_: Yes, that is one way will work, download the theme you want and extract it to ~/.kde/share/aps/desktopthemes [18:42] ubuntu (n=ubuntu@200.31.21.186) joined ##slackware. [18:42] s/one way/one way that/ [18:42] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:42] ok, thanks :) [18:42] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/sanzilla) joined ##slackware. [18:42] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@unaffiliated/sanzilla' by slackboy!n=thongson@66.160.141.30 [18:42] Intel[R]VT-x kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Stay the fsck away from other people's nicks [18:43] anyone knows how to use putty generated keys in openssh for authentication? [18:43] troll alert [18:43] in the ssh client I mean [18:43] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.2.175.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:44] ubuntu, there are a ton of hits on google on how to set that up [18:44] ubuntu: convert them from ppk to openssh usable format [18:44] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:44] lulz [18:44] ? [18:44] I forgot to change my nick [18:44] does anybody use the aurorae engine? [18:46] Intel[R]VT-x found the door locked. Good [18:47] \o/ [18:47] /o/ [18:47] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:47] a deadbolt lock no less. \o/ [18:47] dissociative (n=dissocia@200.31.21.186) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:47] ubuntu (n=ubuntu@200.31.21.186) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:49] latemus (n=m@c-67-177-49-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:52] Nick change: silver -> hy [18:53] latemus (n=m@c-67-177-49-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:53] nite all [18:53] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:53] latemus (n=m@c-67-177-49-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:55] tzlloch_ (i=ddd51ea1@gateway/web/freenode/x-pvpunlbgzmrptftv) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [18:58] acidchil1 (n=ash@li88-140.members.linode.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:58] acidchild (n=ash@li88-140.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [19:01] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:05] acidchild (n=ash@li88-140.members.linode.com) left irc: "Get your dirty momma out of my toenail!" [19:06] tought it could be an auto make -j3 in sbopkg [19:06] i had to edit all the buildscripts to compile things a bit faster [19:07] there is a reason that they don't default to that.... [19:07] actually a few reasons [19:07] you shoukd have set you MAKEFLAGS env variable. [19:07] humm [19:08] XGizzmo, that makes more sense =P [19:08] acidchild (n=ash@li88-140.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. 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[19:26] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@66.160.141.30 [19:28] antiwire: that's awesome lol [19:30] jeagoss (i=jef@173.172.197.134) joined ##slackware. [19:33] that is awesome, why can't I have that ability [19:34] emma (n=emma@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: "Smile! e" [19:34] firedix (n=firedix@host118.200-117-196.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:36] qemu is getting bigger, taking a lot of time to compile [19:40] smoooth, cos you are a sad panda [19:40] emma (n=emma@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [19:40] good point [19:42] I can't find a single store within 60 miles that carries those modular test jacks that go into the telco boxes on the side of houses [19:42] I need two more of them [19:49] StevenR_ (n=foo@user-514fb34d.l2.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [19:51] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [19:52] habaneros (n=habanero@147.252.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:53] daidoji (n=daidoji7@adsl-99-30-228-27.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:53] yo peeps [19:53] has something changed in ftp.slackware.com? [19:54] in terms of anonymous ftp?? [19:54] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [19:54] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp091138182251.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:54] don't think so, I can access it via. firefox [19:55] yeah I can access it from opera [19:55] but wget -r blah blah pathname is failing [19:55] use a mirror! how rude [19:55] You are user 15 of 96 [19:56] well i am using a mirror currently [19:56] daidoji, really .... mirror or die [19:56] it just perplexed me why this isn't working [19:56] :) [19:56] since its worked every other time during the past that I've ever tried [19:57] they know you by now [19:57] thats probably it [19:57] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:58] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [19:58] Any telco dudes in here? [19:58] what do you mean by "telco" dudes? [19:59] like do you need access to ATT's 1337 PBX used by the military? [19:59] or just have questions related to telephony? [20:00] Why does that always happen? Someone brings up the telephone networks and there is almost always, 99% chance, someone suggesting phreaks [20:01] i live by experience [20:01] i think hes looking for one of those access codes so he can call long distance, 10-10-321 [20:01] rule 34 has a brother ... [20:01] I was just asking for advice in ##electronics and the first line someone sends is "what you need a bluebox?" [20:01] seriously...wtf [20:01] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [20:02] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [20:02] dude instead of lambasting me with your troubles why don't you just ask your question [20:02] although you should note that its an unfortunate fact that 99% of people who need help with telephony shit harbor the ambitions of "phreaking" [20:03] antiwire: i am no telco genius but i know a little. what are you trying to do ? [20:03] because the other 1% just ask their buddies in the telephone company [20:05] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]" [20:05] In this image, along the right hand side of the box there are white terminal devices. Each line of each pair from the telco terminates on one of those posts and then the test jack lines are terminated directly on the same posts against the telco lines. What are those posts called and do they serve any function other than termination...such as lightening protection? I can't see how they'd protect anything given the way they are wired as i desc [20:05] My actual question, if anyone has experience with the terminology, is [20:05] oops [20:05] http://i34.tinypic.com/2d0m7g4.jpg [20:06] I have always heard them referred to as terminal nodes [20:07] Action: andarius has never been in a demark that looked like that :| [20:08] and they don't really protect anything [20:08] They are mounted on that grounding plane but from what I can tell, they serve no purpose other than to connect the all-path lines to the test jacks without crimping [20:08] i think they're just there to make contact easier [20:08] yeah i think you're right [20:08] thats what i always assumed they did anyways [20:08] andarius, it looks like a residential box [20:08] which is why its probably weird lookin [20:08] I need two more of those terminal nodes and two more test jacks [20:09] i have been in a many residential boxes. still never seen one of those [20:09] o yeah? [20:09] you see how that box looks in that image? that is clean compared to how it was when I opened it [20:09] it was a total disaster [20:09] lattamore (n=lattamor@69.171.161.103) joined ##slackware. [20:09] i bet [20:09] latemus (n=m@c-67-177-49-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] anyone know how to add a virtual interface? [20:11] antiwire: three lines, hand-wired, looks like a small business box in the US [20:11] ifconfig eth1:1 [20:11] nyRednek: that's my box [20:11] it's for a house and three apartments [20:11] and there are actually two other lines connected via a second smaller box that some dipshit telco person did because he didn't have the correct parts to add to the existing box [20:12] it was all finger twisted together when I opened it [20:12] antiwire: ok... [20:12] antiwire: it looks pretty typical for the US [20:12] nooper: thanks [20:12] nyRednek: these days yeah [20:13] np [20:13] this is the older style in the US http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/Demarc2.JPG [20:13] no test jacks [20:14] antiwire: yeah, that looks familiar from my orange box days [20:15] lattamore (n=lattamor@69.171.161.103) left irc: Client Quit [20:15] can you add a route to a virtual interface? i tried but looks like route just shows it as the real if [20:16] antiwire: a resource ?? --> http://tinyurl.com/ydzvqwj [20:17] andarius: freaking win. thanks [20:17] yw [20:18] that whole mess in the box is why I can't get DSL [20:18] is this the part?? --> http://tinyurl.com/ydr8bwg [20:19] it's really close [20:19] m [20:19] judging from the images and other data it is simply a termination point that provides a test jack. most demarcs these days have them, though the ones i am familiar with are less mudular [20:19] I still don't understand how those green things (white in my case) can protect anything [20:20] is mplayerhq.hu down ? [20:20] it is an overload shunt to ground [20:20] antiwire: they're just ground shunts [20:20] prevents really high surge from going down the lines [20:20] how does it work though? since mine house wires are just screwed down onto of the telco wires on each post [20:20] mine/my [20:20] shotest path to gnd and all that ;) [20:20] so it's not a fuse [20:21] no [20:21] so if some large enough amount of current hit the lines it would just arc over onto ground? [20:21] sort of [20:22] if I had my way I'd rip that whole GD mess out and put a new box in [20:23] that image is only half my mess [20:23] antiwire: well, honestly, you are allowed that liberty [20:23] i can only imagine. i reqired my parents entire phone system. we did replace the box :) [20:24] "may" be allowed. in many cases the demarc is property of the phone comany and if you get in to it they have the right to terminate services [20:24] in fact that is why they put those retarded little wire locks on them [20:25] andarius: actually, if you put a new box in, you have to allow them access to the interior box, for their proprietary wiring [20:25] like those retarded little locks [20:25] latemus (n=m@c-67-177-49-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:25] mm, not in my exp. they bring it in to the dmarc and the rest is yours [20:26] On my box, the telco person left both sides unlocked and swung open with crap hanging out everywhere, test jacks dangling and unused lines grounding out [20:26] i know for a fact that is the case for my parents home in TN. as i hashed it out with att [20:26] antiwire: well we are all aware of the skill your telco personnel have ;) [20:26] lol [20:27] antiwire: then you call the telco, telling them you're about to rewire the box, and give them the option to fix it [20:27] r370_ (n=gentoo@201009235009.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [20:28] most times if you square up the box the next tech to see it will just smile and be happy [20:28] I'm going to make it perfect as soon as I get those two extra modules [20:29] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:30] antiwire: so you're gonna get rid of the second box [20:30] yeah [20:30] and all the crappy cross connects they did which are killing the dsl [20:33] antiwire: hmmm [20:34] sounds messy to me [20:35] one of the lines even does this; out of the telco all path, into box 1 to a terminal, over to a test jack, out of the test jack, over to the second box terminal, out of second box terminal to apartment [20:35] when I finally figured out wtf was going on i was amzed [20:35] amazed [20:36] antiwire Is the DSL supplied by the same company as the phone company? [20:36] in my area it will be. yes [20:36] good old AT&T [20:36] well, that eliminates one possible source of stupidity [20:37] lol [20:37] between the telco and the dsl provider you mean? [20:37] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [20:37] Yes, the DSL provider can't modify the wires put in place by the telco--unless they are one and the same. [20:38] james_ (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:38] (which often results in messes like that) [20:38] james_ (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:38] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:39] But usually the DSL provider shouldn't have to screw with the wiring anyway.... [20:39] ....so something screwy was going on. [20:41] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [20:41] Here we go, I found an actual explanation http://www.circatelecom.com/html/ct_tech_install.html#six [20:41] the last one [20:43] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@unaffiliated/sanzilla expired. [20:43] maddslacker (n=corey@c-67-190-191-37.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:43] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@unaffiliated/sanzilla' by slackboy!n=thongson@66.160.141.30 [20:43] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:43] latemus (n=m@c-67-177-49-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:44] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:45] infoman (n=info_man@196.202.27.173) joined ##slackware. [20:45] hi :) [20:46] jar_corefile (n=jar_core@pool-71-255-88-17.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:46] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [20:46] ello [20:46] anyone have any experience with slack + lirc + mceusb remote? [20:47] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@213.13.224.237) joined ##slackware. [20:47] hello happy slackers [20:48] greetings LnxSlck, how are you? [20:48] fire|bird, not so great [20:48] Has anyone ever managed to see inside a central office? [20:48] I want to go on a tour [20:48] fire|bird, i just installed windows 7 and it screwed my slackware [20:48] what kind of central office. that is rather vague :| [20:48] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-125-7.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:49] the CO for a phone company [20:49] he's talking about a telco network office [20:49] antiwire yes, but has been years -- pretty boring mostly just a few racks of stuff [20:49] fire|bird, it added a new partition and it screwed my linux partitions :( [20:49] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:49] a local exchange facility [20:49] Action: fire|bird envisions that being Google's next venture. "From the folks that brought you StreetVeiw, yes, it's BusinessView, by Gogle" [20:49] Heya,slackers...how's everyone? [20:49] LnxSlck: ouch [20:49] heya MLanden, how are you? [20:49] fine thanks fire|bird....yourself? [20:49] fire|bird, i need to do the chroot thing but i'm not getting it [20:50] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:50] ugh, I really made spelling errors there. s/StreetVeiw/StreetView/ s/Gogle/Google/ :/ [20:50] MLanden: great, thanks. :) [20:50] antiwire your local CO could quite literally be a 2'x2'x2' green metal box on the ground if you're in a highly populated area [20:50] fire|bird at least what you said was intelligible [20:51] fire|bird: midori updated last night...was messin' with it earlier [20:51] For me I know it's one of those classic concrete bunker buildings. it has barbed wire surrounding it here too [20:51] mine is [20:51] LnxSlck: Are the partitions still there or did Windows toos them to the curb? [20:51] RvnPhnx: haha, yeah. :) [20:51] MLanden: I'm on the xfce mailing lists now, there's a lot happening to midori git it looks like, very active. [20:51] MLanden: many changes to the updated version? [20:52] fire|bird: fixed the mouse gestures finally...:D [20:52] MLanden: excellent. [20:52] fire|bird, i had: windows xp @ sda1; slackware @ sda2 and swap @ sda3, now i have win7 partition @sda1, windows7 @sda2, slackware @sda3 and swap @ sda4 [20:52] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:52] fire|bird, now everytime i boot into slack i get maintenace mode, and i cant get the chroot thing to work [20:52] antiwire: talking to a local att lineman and he said ours is an underground CO at a major roadway intersection ... something about easiest to get fiber to [20:52] fire|bird: let your thumb fire away...:P [20:52] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-67-191-58-46.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] MLanden: lol [20:53] jar_corefile: They call those vaults i think [20:53] LnxSlck that sounds like a real pain [20:53] a telco 'vault' [20:53] RvnPhnx, yeap [20:53] like this http://emerald-wireless.com/images/Vaults.jpg [20:54] RvnPhnx, but surelly there's someone with enough slackfu to help me [20:54] can someone help me get out of maintenance mode after a windows7 install? [20:54] jar_corefile antiwire the guy who wrote the versions of "The Way Things Work" with all of the mammoths in it wrote a cool book about underground infrastructure way back [20:54] MLanden: I'm on Fedora atm, getting it updated, I'm just gonna boot back to slack and then I'll get midori updated. [20:55] RvnPhnx: my mom bought me that book when I was little [20:55] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:55] the way things work [20:55] it was rad [20:55] fire|bird: sweet [20:55] LnxSlck are you using an initrd? [20:55] MLanden: Have you tried building the git version at all? [20:55] RvnPhnx: guess I should pick that up [20:55] antiwire: always thought it'd be bigger [20:55] RvnPhnx, nope [20:55] RvnPhnx, i use the hugesmp kernel [20:56] alienBOB, ping [20:56] LnxSlck grub or Lilo (not to be confused with the deceased op)? [20:56] RvnPhnx, lilo [20:56] fire|bird: no....just the release after upgradin' webkit on my 12.2 [20:56] rworkman, ping [20:56] LnxSlck you have the install disk handy? [20:57] RvnPhnx, yeap [20:57] MLanden: ok, I had tried building the git version and it wouldn't build. I'm guessing maybe that needs an updated webkit or something. [20:58] My next step will be setting up a 'Slacksterisk' box with an FXO/FXS card [20:58] then I'll install sip phones on my home network [20:58] LnxSlck Ok, you know how to mount your own stuff once you've booted using the install CD, right? [20:58] fire|bird: might be...which webkit do you have installed? [20:59] MLanden: The one SBo has, without new glib, etc. it can't go any newer than what SBo has. [20:59] RvnPhnx, that's the thing im not beeing able to do [20:59] RvnPhnx, when i try chroot i get /bin/sh directory or file not found [20:59] antiwire: if you wrote up your experiences that'd be awesome for those of us who'd like to but don't have the time [21:00] LnxSlck, so you tried a "rescue" boot with the install dvd? [21:00] LnxSlck: yikes [21:00] LnxSlck I'm not asking you to chroot [21:00] maddslacker, yes [21:00] and the error is? [21:00] maddslacker, when i try chroot i get /bin/sh directory or file not found [21:00] maddslacker I've had that happen too [21:00] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [21:01] what does chroot have to do with this? [21:01] RvnPhnx, then? what's your idea? [21:01] can you boot from the dvd and start your root partition or not? [21:01] maddslacker that requires a working chroot [21:01] wait, was this a windows install over top of slack to make dual boot? [21:01] maddslacker, i boot from the dvd, and get a / filesystem read only [21:02] LnxSlck have you booted the install cd as if you were re-installing, but tried to mount you're stuff under /mnt yet? [21:02] maddslacker, worst. i had XP and Slack working fine. then i installed windows7 then it screwed my partitions [21:02] RvnPhnx, yes [21:02] yup, but it's recoverable [21:02] <- has done that too [21:02] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: ""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."" [21:02] UNLESS you let the win7 install have all the partitions? [21:02] maddslacker, i had: windows xp @ sda1; slackware @ sda2 and swap @ sda3, now i have win7 partition @sda1, windows7 @sda2, slackware @sda3 and swap @ sda4 [21:03] maddslacker perhaps more recently than I have....? [21:03] (I hope) [21:03] anyway...does windows y boot ok? [21:03] RvnPhnx, yes [21:03] maddslacker, windows7 added a 100mb partition and the normal windows partition [21:03] windows 7 [21:03] maddslacker, yes [21:03] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) joined ##slackware. [21:03] yes, win7 and server 2008 r2 do that [21:03] anyway [21:03] cathy_chang (n=wangchan@61.150.43.46) left ##slackware. [21:04] in win7 disk manager, does it still show your linux partitions as unknoen? [21:04] let me check [21:04] *unknown [21:04] k [21:04] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjGf0P5rQM0 [21:04] maddslacker ntldr? [21:04] AIPS (Astronomical Information Processing System) handles the processing and display of data from radio interferometers. Data can be collected from any radio telescope array. Images can be exported in FITS format. [21:04] maddslacker, where the heck is that [21:04] verizon co tour cool [21:04] slow down [21:04] Action: acidchild pulls out his interferometer [21:04] lolol [21:04] right click my computer, choose manage [21:04] acidchild: give me the keys to the CO damn it [21:05] stop running [21:05] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjGf0P5rQM0 [21:05] :P [21:05] RvnPhnx, no, ntldr is not relevant here [21:05] neonflux (n=neonflux@75.140.153.197) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:05] omg, dont make me watch this ;/ [21:05] LnxSlck, once you choose manage, one of those choices will have disk manager in it [21:05] maddslacker ok, I'm just trying to follow along [21:05] acidchild: hahaha [21:05] looks like the old xp once you get there [21:06] maddslacker, it says primary partition [21:06] antiwire: ;< [21:06] what are all the partitions it shows? [21:06] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [21:06] and by accepting my help here, you agree to help me get my IR remote working with mythtv :D [21:06] maddslacker, it shows everything, my slack partition, swap, windows 7 and the windows7 reserved partition [21:06] ok perfect [21:07] now boot to the slack install disc, and get to the part where you log in as root [21:07] do it like you're installing, do not do the rescue thing [21:07] **where we're headed is to mount the root partiton, fix lilo.conf then re-run lilo [21:07] maddslacker I think we were both headed the same place... [21:07] maddslacker, it justs asks for the password to enter maintenance mode [21:07] you can even do this with a live slax CD [21:07] damn that clip sucks [21:07] wb,fire|bird [21:08] maintenance mode is a ubunt thing o.O [21:08] MLanden: thank you. I'm back on Slackware now. :) [21:08] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [21:08] maddslacker, so the steps are mount the root partition and then chroot to i? [21:08] LnxSlck, i've never heard of this maint mode yo speak of [21:08] fire|bird: what were you on ? [21:08] no [21:08] no need [21:08] deco: Fedora [21:08] fire|bird: ...... [21:08] just mount it and have fun [21:08] http://www.slax.org/get_slax.php [21:08] maddslacker, init 1 or runlevel 1 [21:08] use that, twil be easier [21:09] LnxSlck you're jus looking to fix the broken stuff [21:09] so when you boot the install disc, you are not getting the ncurses install dialog? [21:09] RvnPhnx, yes [21:09] s/jus/just [21:09] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [21:09] maddslacker, no [21:09] neonflux (n=neonflux@75.140.153.197) joined ##slackware. [21:09] why? [21:09] what is maint mode? [21:09] what do you get? [21:09] maddslacker, its runlevel 1 [21:09] Nick change: maddslacker -> cptn_obvious [21:10] RvnPhnx, i get a filesystem with read only permitions [21:10] then you didn't boot the CD [21:10] check that the drive contains the slack dvd [21:10] Nick change: cptn_obvious -> maddslacker [21:10] RvnPhnx, sure with : hugesmp.s root=/dev/sda3 rdinit= ro [21:10] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:10] no [21:10] son't so that [21:10] no? [21:10] just boot the CD with no options [21:10] do it like you're installing, do not do the rescue thing [21:10] ok [21:10] like I said before [21:10] LnxSlck, isn't paying attn ;) [21:10] and when i get to the terminal [21:11] press the big key that says enter on it :D [21:11] then type root [21:11] maddslacker, i know that [21:11] hit enter again [21:11] hehe [21:11] just messin with you [21:11] anyway, don;t do the mount myy root partr thing [21:11] just do it like an install [21:12] maddslacker, mount /dev/sda3 / [21:12] maddslacker, like that? [21:12] no [21:12] mkdir temp [21:12] daidoji (n=daidoji7@adsl-99-30-228-27.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: [21:12] mount -t reiserfs /dev/whatever temp [21:12] use your specifics [21:12] ewww reiserfs [21:12] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:13] maddslacker, i have everything i need [21:13] thanks guys :) [21:13] MLanden: midori 0.2.1 won't build here. :P [21:13] jeagoss (i=jef@173.172.197.134) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:13] so it mounted? [21:13] cool [21:13] luckly i'll be talking the next time in slack [21:13] maddslacker, i have to boot first :) [21:13] see you guys [21:13] don;t forget to run lilo after you config [21:13] thanks [21:14] np [21:14] maddslacker, do i need to change lilo.conf? for instance swap is no longer in sd2 but sda4 ? [21:14] also windows is now on sda2 not sda1 [21:14] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:15] Guest38804 (n=root@125.160.114.194) joined ##slackware. [21:15] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@66.160.141.30 [21:15] Guest38804 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [21:15] LnxSlck if the lilo.conf needs to be fixed then by all means fix it [21:15] thanks guys [21:15] LnxSlck: you will have to change those [21:15] brb [21:15] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@213.13.224.237) left irc: "Saindo" [21:16] fire|bird: sorry to hear...had the GSB installed on this machine a while back..so that may be the diff [21:17] jeagoss (i=jef@173.172.197.134) joined ##slackware. [21:18] Jullyend (n=jullyend@189.114.178.249.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:18] hi [21:18] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:21] habanero1 (n=habanero@97.102.252.147) joined ##slackware. [21:23] someone has already installed some graphical interface to administer the bacula? [21:23] Dominian: ping .. didn't you have backups running with bacula? ^^ [21:24] MLanden: Hmm, could be, I'm looking into the errors it gave to see what happened. [21:25] BP{k}: yes [21:25] BP{k}: and I'm working on restoring from them right now [21:25] BP{k}: the backup server has "issues" [21:25] so trying to use bextract to get the files I need [21:26] ugh, I hate it when my backup machine goes down [21:27] lol http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1786 [21:27] MLanden: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/Wv5Sa319.html [21:31] fire|bird, looks like it wants newer glib [21:31] habaneros (n=habanero@147.252.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:31] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [21:32] thrice`: ugh, I was hoping that wouldn't be the case. :P [21:32] Dominian: see question above from Jullyend re; gui for bacula. [21:32] fire|bird: yeah...might need to check if webkit installed is webkit or webkitgtk [21:33] undefined reference to `g_icon_to_string' [21:33] to me means "lulz, update gtk and friends" [21:34] thrice`: I guess there's one upside to having gsb installed, newer gtk and glib & friends. :P [21:35] but, according to gentoo's ebuild, webkit-gtk 1.1.1 and gtk 2.10 are good enough for midori 0.2.0, and usually they are pretty good at versions [21:35] john_dee (n=id@95-29-14-142.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [21:37] MLanden: /var/log/packages/pywebkitgtk-1.1.5-i486-1_SBo /var/log/packages/webkit-r45012-i486-1_SBo [21:41] GArik (n=wesnoth@89.179.149.7) left irc: "Leaving" [21:41] latemus (n=m@c-67-177-49-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:42] fire|bird: ok...so,it has to be with what thrice` said...newer glib and gtk [21:43] if you have that recent of a webkit snapshot, I'd guess you already are on later glib, no? [21:43] thrice`: nope, that's the webkit from SBo. I've tried building newer ones (there are many) and they need newer gtk and glib. [21:44] I'm on slack's glib, gtk, etc. [21:44] slack 13's [21:44] aah [21:45] So, unless I update those, I'm sort of stuck at 0.2.0 :P [21:46] Jullyend: There is bconsole.. which is the console for bacula, however, the gui, imho is useless [21:47] i use bacula-web to "check" on status and such, but thats it.. I do evertyhing else from command line and reading their docs [21:49] No fair Dominian, you are not supposed to read those. [21:49] bye :) [21:49] infoman (n=info_man@196.202.27.173) left irc: "Leaving." [21:49] You need to bang around blindly and then bug someone in a support channel. :P [21:50] XGizzmo it is often a wonder when the documentation is legible, considering that the people whom wrote the docs are probably the same people whom wrote the code--and EVERYTHING makes sense to them... (yeah, I've done that too) [21:52] fire|bird: xfce's software starting to use the newer gtk libs as well [21:54] serek (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:55] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:55] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] MLanden: yeah, parole being another good example of that. [21:55] well, it's not too unreasonable; slackware is 2 major versions behind, not just 1 [21:56] thrice`: yeah, unfortunately. :) [21:56] Anyone use facebook? [21:56] fire|bird: true [21:57] MLanden: When I had gsb installed, parole worked too. [21:57] Where I work, everyone has a facebook account [21:58] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [21:58] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: Client Quit [21:59] fire|bird: was it light on the system? [21:59] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:59] MLanden: It sure seemed to be, yeah. It's certainly not a feature packed app, just an app that plays videos, and nothing more. [22:00] but does what it's designed to do very well, in my experience with it anyway. [22:00] antiwire: yes. [22:01] fire|bird: ok [22:02] When you view someone's friends do it let the person know? [22:02] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:02] nope, you can browse your ex-girlfriend in secrecy :) [22:02] antiwire: no. [22:02] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [22:02] I mean, "someone" [22:02] lol [22:03] all this new fangled social net-wrecking [22:05] why does facebook want my email password? [22:05] this is fscking crazy [22:05] it wants your friends mauahahaha [22:05] it's not your email password, it's a facebook password [22:05] umm, it should not want your email password [22:05] antiwire: gmx.com lets you link facebook to it [22:05] no it's your email password. [22:06] i0x71 (n=i0x71@bas1-richmondhill34-1176125145.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:06] thrice`: it'll take your email password to find your friends [22:06] tell it no :P [22:06] dfd [22:06] it even pops up saying exactly that it is not asking for the facebook password and needs your email password [22:06] shouldn't be a requirement, though [22:06] It isn't a requirement [22:06] skipped [22:06] people actually do that? holy crap. [22:07] skysong (n=indecent@ADSL-TPLUS-84-183.telecomplus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] hey, im having a problem, just installed slackware 13 with slapt-get, whenever i install something with slaprt-get it seems to work but all executables of the installed app are missing, any suggestions ? [22:07] antiwire: by that, am I able to assume you don't want a google wave invite. :P [22:07] i0x71: slapt-get isn't supported here [22:07] Sorry about your luck [22:08] gah [22:08] what would you recomment that resolves dependencies [22:08] Another distro [22:08] you serious [22:09] Yes, I am [22:09] yes, slackware isn't meant to resolve deps [22:09] i0x71 - you didn't read slackware statement, then [22:09] antiwire, man you wouldn't BELIEVE what people will do on facebook [22:09] alright [22:09] i0x71 (n=i0x71@bas1-richmondhill34-1176125145.dsl.bell.ca) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:09] slapt-get may work half-ass, but other distros do dep-resolution much better [22:09] i0x71 (n=i0x71@bas1-richmondhill34-1176125145.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:09] i0x71 (n=i0x71@bas1-richmondhill34-1176125145.dsl.bell.ca) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:10] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:10] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:11] antiwire, like those shitty applications. mafia-wars and farmville or whatever... that people seem addicted to. and they PAY for shit and give out all of their personal information which is then sold directly to ad-networks, as quoted by the writer of 'mafia wars' [22:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] and do things like, give you points for installing the Zwinky toolbar. About which the writer said basically "i can't believe these people. I installed it once. I couldn't get rid of it. Whatever, i needed revenue fast" [22:12] yeah, really simply game to make [22:13] and people will steal their neighbors mail just to whore their personal info [22:13] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "I was raided by the FBI and all I got to keep was this lousy quit message!" [22:13] when you make facebook apps you gotta give facebook a cut or something? [22:14] turkeyshoot heck with that, they'll just pull all of the copper pipes/wires out of your house [22:16] i tried to return a facebook gift the other day [22:16] someone paid a dollar to send me it [22:16] so i called facebook and tried to get the money for it [22:16] basictracks (n=peter@212-182-139-194.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. 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[22:22] emma (n=emma@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Connection timed out [22:24] turkeyshoot (n=raiden@S0106001cdfd0ecff.dr.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [22:24] rc1138 (n=rc1138@ip68-228-254-141.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:25] rc1138 (n=rc1138@ip68-228-254-141.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:29] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:30] rfdrew (n=qwe_qwe_@155-11-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:30] latemus (n=m@c-67-177-49-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:32] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [22:32] how would I go about converting a deb file to a slack package? [22:33] why would you want to do that ? [22:33] andarius: I want to try google chrome, but the only download is in a deb package [22:33] mfillpot: open it up and do it yourself [22:34] mfillpot: you don't need a deb package [22:34] despiron (n=despiron@187.64.21.199) joined ##slackware. [22:34] mfillpot: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-linux/ [22:34] Dominus (i=unices@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [22:34] Nick change: Dominus -> Guest90738 [22:34] mfillpot: but read this first http://ifeelalittlestupid.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/using-the-chromium-linux-beta-build-on-slackware-12-2/ [22:35] deco: ty [22:35] mfillpot: np [22:35] mfillpot: build mozilla-nss, then make the symlinks from the second link deco gave you, then the chrome link is binary. [22:35] EuroTrash (i=unices@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:35] chromium doesn't need gconf? [22:35] good day [22:35] thrice`: yes it does [22:36] and another package orbit something [22:36] thrice`: Yeah, it does, if it's not present, it won't run. [22:36] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] ah, ok; didn't see mention of it [22:36] thrice`: I didn't either, I found out about that requirement by running it and it complaining about it. :P [22:37] fire|bird, i was able to compile midori 0.2.1 by editing the kattze/katze-utils.c slightly [22:37] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [22:37] i0x71 (n=i0x71@bas1-richmondhill34-1176125145.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:37] Scuzz: cool, what did you need to change? [22:37] gerrh^^ (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:37] can anyone recomment on a simple way of installing apps such as qemu, htop ? [22:38] fresn slack 13 install [22:38] i0x71: slackbuilds.org and slackbuilds.org/howto/ [22:38] search katze/katze-utils.c for while ((info = g_list_nth_data (apps, i++))) [22:38] and, http://www.slackbuilds.org/faq/ [22:38] right under that you will see { [22:38] nite all;) [22:38] delete that all the way to the other } [22:38] night hitest [22:39] then it will compile [22:39] night fire|bird [22:39] would it be possible to use these repos http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-13.0/ [22:39] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:39] Scuzz: Hmm, cool. thanks. [22:39] np [22:39] seems to be working [22:39] from the icon in my menu [22:39] slakmagi1 (n=j@adsl-162-130-171.rmo.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:39] i0x71: possible but not recommended [22:39] why is that [22:40] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:40] because it would be preferred for me since they have more updated apps [22:40] They aren't official.. [22:40] and not verified to be safe [22:40] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:40] could have crabs [22:41] or h1n1 [22:41] yes, so how would i go about installing something from those repos then [22:41] or aids [22:41] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:41] fire|bird, it seems to work from comanndline also [22:42] is chrome only for 32-bit right now? [22:42] anyone ? [22:42] i0x71, what is "those repos" ? [22:42] http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-13.0/ [22:42] ex [22:42] "installpkg" ? [22:43] uSlacker (n=uSlackr@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] so i would have to get the tgz first [22:43] lol [22:43] mfillpot: There are also 64bit binary's. [22:44] hmm [22:44] mfillpot: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-linux-64/ [22:44] heres the problem, the executables are there , -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 91K 2009-09-23 06:18 /usr/bin/htop* [22:44] , but i run /usr/bin/htop , i get -bash: /usr/bin/htop: No such file or directory [22:45] im friggen confused here, anyone ? [22:45] am i missing something really simple here ? [22:46] i0x71, what does this return? "uname -r" [22:46] I mean [22:46] "uname -m" [22:46] 64bit [22:46] and it looks like slacky.eu only provides 32-bit packages [22:46] hmmm [22:46] fuck [22:46] so yes, you are missing something "really simple" [22:47] thanks [22:47] sure thing [22:48] fuck there goes 3.5G of wasted bandwidth [22:48] just compile htop yourself, it probably takes 20 seconds [22:48] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/htop/ [22:48] http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [22:49] http://sbopkg.org/ [22:49] how do you guys get around snooping the new for damn dependencies ? [22:50] slackbuilds.org wil tell you dependencies. [22:50] hmm [22:50] fuck my brain is starting to melt, and we use slackpkg for that ? [22:50] or do we manualy browse get tgz [22:51] right nvm [22:51] sbopkg can link to slackbuilds.org , slackpkg is only for stuff Pat maintains [22:52] alright thanks [22:52] gonna try it out [22:53] another thing, manualy compiled qemu, it worked fine but man was missing, any ideas ? [22:53] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:53] wrong man path [22:53] you didn't spec the proper configure time paths [22:53] when you compiled, that is [22:54] you probably compiled from "su" instead of "su -" [22:54] gah and proper paths are specified where ? [22:55] ls [22:55] . .. [22:55] ..... [22:55] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:55] ....... [22:55] try both and "echo $PATH" [22:55] emma (n=emma@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [22:56] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:56] Nick change: Dominian -> BOFH [22:56] Nick change: BOFH -> Dominian [22:56] "qemu builds man-pages at compile-time; to do so, /sbin must be in the [22:57] current $PATH. Be sure to run the script as root ( "su -" )." [22:57] someone even added that to the README (clever name) [22:57] chrome isn't woth the trouble of trying to install it now [22:58] mfillpot: why? it's easy [22:58] great thanks [22:58] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:58] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:58] i ran it as root thou [22:58] no "su stuff" [22:58] watch out [23:00] correcaminos_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [23:00] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [23:01] egregor (n=ieie@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [23:01] egregor (n=ieie@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Client Quit [23:02] doodmanbrowtfomggtfoftwfmlbbq....chopter [23:02] lol [23:04] procyonlabs (n=randy@pool-71-179-252-191.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:04] so how would i remove or update a compiled app ? [23:04] time to go to the pub [23:04] i0x71: was it installed via package? [23:04] compiled [23:04] i0x71: you get to hope for a make uninstall target or manually find everything [23:04] gg [23:05] damn [23:05] this is why every distro provides a package manager :) [23:05] You can compile..and make a package [23:05] except slackware ? [23:05] It's not one or the other [23:05] Slackware has a package manager [23:05] slackware has a package manager [23:05] slackpkg ? [23:05] slackpkg ftw [23:05] I gave you links to slackbuilds.org, which makes packages for you [23:05] installpkg..etc [23:06] sorry i kind of misunderstood the idea [23:06] the pkgtools are the defacto Slackware package manager [23:06] so the only advantage of slackpkg is that it show you which dependencies are needed, [23:06] pkgtool, upgradepkg, installpkg, removepkg, explodepkg [23:06] i0x71: it doesn't [23:06] Since when does slackpkg show deps? [23:06] it does not [23:07] hmm [23:07] dependency resolution != package management [23:07] so it updates the app then ? [23:07] from the slack repos [23:07] It does exactly what it sounds like..installs/updates/removes Slackware packages [23:08] aha got it , somewhat wild coming from apt-et [23:08] who is using apt-get? [23:08] debian [23:08] i0x71, you'll get used to it ;-) [23:08] apt-get is what is wild. [23:08] Read the slackbook [23:08] not pkgtools [23:08] hopefully [23:09] alright thanks guys [23:14] in the latest spam brilliance, i apparently sent myself an email regarding the conficker infection on my PC along with an exe to fix it [23:14] heh [23:14] mancha: tell yourself thanks for thinking ahead [23:14] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:14] all it took was 1.2 gigawatts [23:15] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:16] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [23:16] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@66.160.141.30 [23:16] er 1.21 [23:17] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:17] correcaminos (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:19] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [23:20] Nick change: init[6] -> init[1] [23:22] jota (i=8f6be731@gateway/web/freenode/x-qhrrsgmcnkqdxryv) joined ##slackware. [23:22] [OT] http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/11/massive_wort_cooler.html [23:25] jota (i=8f6be731@gateway/web/freenode/x-qhrrsgmcnkqdxryv) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [23:26] I have a question about hacking over wifi. If my computer is the only computer connected to the network (other than the internet) then someone can hijack my internet (lets say I don't mind this) but to crack my computer they'd either need my user name and password or root password right? [23:27] Assuming I don't have root locked and use sudo [23:28] ....... [23:28] How do people hijack your internet? [23:29] straterra: they point a gun at a person and yell , hand over your internets [23:29] hmm so lemme get this straight, there are no 64 bit repos so far ? [23:29] "they" need any flaw in your system configuration at all. If "they" gain access to your local segment "they" have a pretty good chance of learning a lot about your network and any attached systems. [23:30] i0x71: Slackware's [23:30] Chakravanti: you should have meant s/internet/network/ [23:30] yah [23:30] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [23:30] wb godling [23:31] hi [23:32] Chakravanti: what kind of wifi encryption are you using? [23:33] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:34] anyone know how to safisfy this ? http://www.martins.eng.br/slackware/lua5.1/lua-5.1.4-i486-1afm.tgz [23:34] nvm [23:34] No package 'lua5.1' found [23:35] satisfy? [23:35] i0x71: it can't get no satisfaction ? [23:35] where to get that package [23:35] i0x71: if you're looking to satisfy it, I've got some email I've been receiving lately that might help [23:36] neonflux, assume none [23:36] i0x71: you can get lua from slackbuilds.org [23:36] does slackbuilds support 64bit ? [23:36] i0x71: if you set ARCH=x86_64 [23:37] and where do i set that ? [23:37] usually in the same line you run the slackbuild script [23:37] antiwire tells me as much as I need to know to make up my mind P [23:37] tank-man (i=1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: "Got some milk stuck in my teeth" [23:37] thanks [23:37] if you use sbopkg then it handles it for you [23:38] alright [23:39] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:39] has anyone had any luck building amarok v1.4.x for slack 13.0 (especially 64-bit) [23:43] no jar, no experience with that; but isn't amarok up to 2.x? [23:43] hoobop: yes, it is up to 2.2.0 [23:43] hoobop: yep ... but the 2.x branch kinda sucks [23:44] jar_corefile: agreed. [23:44] good to know [23:44] hoobop, fire|bird: w/ 32-bit you can install the kde3 compat stuff and use the 12.2 package [23:44] hey fire|bird [23:44] but for 64-bit you'd have to build it [23:45] GammelSokk (n=johskar@137.84-48-41.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [23:45] jar_corefile: yeah, I have the compat stuff, but I've been using xfmedia, which works great for what I need. [23:45] gregsparc_ (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [23:46] fire|bird: (I know I'll get crucified for saying this but,) does it support loading things on an ipod? what about podcasts? [23:47] jar_corefile: nope, it doesn't, just a simple player with a playlist. [23:47] jar_corefile: i think you should give Songbird a try [23:47] heya init[1] [23:48] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:48] yo fire|work :D [23:48] Nick change: gregsparc_ -> gregsparc [23:48] haha [23:48] init[1]: Does that mean, everytime I join, people go ohhhh, ahhhhh, etc.? :P [23:49] fire|bird: are you still your KDEs :P [23:49] s/still/still in/ [23:49] init[1]: nah, been using xfce for a little over a month now. [23:50] fire|bird: as i said "Xfce is enough for any slacker :D" [23:50] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:50] init[1]: yeah, Xfce is great. [23:50] init[1]: thanks, looks like it'll support my 6g classic and my wife's zen [23:50] simple,lighweith,does what its suppose to do(nothing more / less) [23:51] init[1]: yup, exactly. [23:51] jar_corefile: :),jar_corefile use the slackbuilds [23:51] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:51] fire|bird: kde does more than what i should be doing [23:51] s/i/it/ [23:52] any way no more DE flame wars :) [23:52] init[1]: Well, it has it's place, and is a great DE, but it does do a lot of stuff, which is nice, but Xfce is just great, customizable, stays out of your way so to speak, and is fast. [23:53] yea :) ,some day i will give try to enligthment ,i have heard its kinda cool [23:53] init[1]: haha. /me puts on flame war battle gear. [23:53] fire|bird: you're like fireworks in that people like you but generally think you're overrated and hate how you make them stand outside in teh cold [23:54] :D [23:54] hahahaha [23:54] godling: Well then, they should have worn a coat. :P [23:54] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:55] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:56] fire|bird: so that's what you say to little old ladies on the fourth of July? "Sorry grandma, you should have worn a coat. Frostbite builds character!" [23:56] for shame [23:56] hahahahaha [23:56] fire|bird hates old people [23:56] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:58] godling: I deny those accusations. I want a lawyer. [23:59] ah, you've got something to hide [00:00] --- Sun Nov 15 2009