[00:00] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:03] ezr (n=jpb@97-80-124-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:04] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@174-23-253-78.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:05] bash-3.1$ cd / [00:06] bash-3.1$ touch this [00:06] touch: cannot touch `this': Permission denied [00:06] emcee hammer? [00:06] yeah? no? [00:06] nm : ) [00:06] CitizenLane: are you trying to be funny? [00:07] not anymore ;) [00:07] ..... [00:08] i like this new guy i've heard today "max melvin" h [00:08] he's good. [00:09] leptom: i'm not able to reproduce this + konsole behaviour [00:11] johndee (n=id@93-81-137-37.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:14] xdoctor (n=avs@201.78.170.80) left irc: "Leaving" [00:16] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:18] Navii_ (n=hduvaz@200.76.196.182) left ##slackware. [00:19] ANybody here have experiance with slackware as a quest in virtualbox? [00:19] I can't seem to use mkinitrd propery. [00:20] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:20] byteframe: sure. what's the problem with mkinitrd? [00:22] john_dee (n=id@93-81-137-37.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:22] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:23] Jhonny_blade (n=Jhonny_b@cpe-173-89-216-159.insight.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:23] BP{k}, it cant get it to boot up afterwards. [00:23] let me get the exact error, but I use this: mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.29.6 -m mbcache:jbd:ext3 -f ext3 -r /dev/`readlink /dev/root` [00:23] I later tried adding in the drivers/ata/pata_miix module; [00:24] byteframe: /usr/share/mkinitrd/mkinitrd_command_generator.sh <- have you tried running that? [00:24] nope, sounds like fun/. [00:25] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] hi all have small question about perl [00:26] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:28] im haveing problums useing cpan in the newist revsion of slaxs [00:28] Jhonny_blade: slax? or slackware? [00:28] slax [00:29] this is ##slackware. You probalby should ask the question in #slax. [00:29] mk ill try it but i might be back [00:30] thanks for the warning :P [00:30] Jhonny_blade: Sure, we'll tell you just to go there again. [00:31] well isent slax simply a live version of slackware? [00:31] no [00:31] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.151) left irc: "Leaving" [00:31] you are most expertly and completly wrong. [00:31] it's simply .. nothing like that :) [00:32] theres nothing like slackware [00:32] archiebenedict: lies! there is slackware! ;) [00:32] it claims to be slackware-based which oi don't really understand as a concept, to be honest [00:32] even slamd64 wasnt close [00:32] heheh [00:32] what seperates the 2? [00:32] my understanding is slamd64 was a great product, and you should be a little more appreciative for the first umphh towards a 64 bit clean slack [00:32] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-153-4.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:33] oh [00:33] mancha, i was just joking. to me EVERY distro is exactly the same [00:33] to me they're different, some quite different. [00:34] they all swear that they are the best, and hate their own derivatives [00:34] well heres my next lame question dose anybody know if the "linux-live scrips" work on slackware? [00:34] if slax is a pure live cd doesn't any cpan update die at the next reboot or can you save states to usb or sommit [00:34] It's not a matter of "hate the derivatives" - it's about "refuse to support them" [00:35] slax probly rebuilds slackware pkgs or sources using slax build scripts but slax pkg mngmnt is differrent. [00:35] apples and oranges [00:35] and those derivatives refusing to offer support and send people here. [00:35] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:36] not what i ment theres are scripts that take your settings and progs and creats a live cd with them [00:36] Jhonny_blade, slax is probably distinct enough (given its live status) that the best advice will be from other slax users and from slax fora [00:36] Perhaps there are, but they're not from Slackware, and thus we don't (or can't be expected to) know anything about them. [00:37] there not built just for slax [00:37] If you're using a distribution that you can't support yourself, and there's no user/developer community that cna offer support, then you need to reconsider. [00:37] http://www.linux-live.org/ [00:38] well thats what im trying to do .. im downloading slackware as we speek [00:38] That advice applies equally to Slackware, btw. :) [00:38] what are you trying to do with slax Jhonny_blade ? [00:38] backtrack 4.0 is to big for me i just want a small os for my simple spoofing needs [00:39] i figure make my own [00:39] puppy and dsl have small footprints [00:39] backtrack was the one i would have recommended since they now base it on ubuntu. it's easier for new users, but now it's disgusting to me [00:39] lol well yes im not a new user [00:39] i had some luck with knoppix on a flash drive [00:40] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:40] knoppix isn't bad (at least back when i played with it) [00:40] i tell ya for the longist time i used hal-linux [00:41] hoho` (n=hooh@190.167.149.200) joined ##slackware. [00:41] lol ran on a floppy [00:42] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [00:42] lol, now you cant even fit the kernel on a floppy [00:42] crap... now you cant even find a floppy [00:43] i still use my floppys all the time lol [00:43] Action: BP{k} doesn't even have a floppy drive in my machine. [00:43] blueflops came close with 2 disk for the 2.6 kernel [00:44] if i get a pc with a floppy drive, i remove it so that the pc is more light weight. im more likely to have to carry my pc long enough to notice the weight reduction than to need a floppy [00:45] very cold [00:45] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:47] anybody know the best revision to download? [00:47] GigantosPenos (i=188a058e@gateway/web/freenode/x-thmjazbwegtukbof) joined ##slackware. [00:48] Oh man I so came in that whore's rectum. [00:48] NCOOnline (i=4a45cc1b@gateway/web/freenode/x-krbkorkpwffvqeht) joined ##slackware. [00:48] Hermann (n=Hermannn@81.170.156.174) joined ##slackware. [00:48] i asume the newist is the most stable [00:48] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:48] Hello, this is Charlie. [00:48] newest what? [00:48] Mr badge number is #8621 [00:48] revsion of slackware [00:49] This is an attempt to collection a debt. Is David there? [00:49] I'm David. [00:49] yeah slackware doesnt really ever get worse [00:49] noted ... thanks [00:49] It is our understanding that David has evaded phone calls from our agents at NCO who have an important business matter. [00:50] can we get some ops? [00:50] Tell them to infiltrate my cunt. [00:50] David, would you like to speak with Lousie from accounts receivable, or negotiate your account via this public forum? [00:50] David, that was quite unacceptable. [00:50] Let's start again; my name is Charlie. [00:50] No, you're unacceptable you black asshole. [00:51] We're inquiring about your unpaid telephone to Deutsch Telekom, recently acquired by Cosa Nostra. [00:51] I'm Italian, you Irish prick. [00:51] I paid that last month. [00:52] Our records indicate that you paid in a currency that we do not accept. [00:52] Action: spook facepalms [00:52] is there a way to find the dependencies of a package before you go through the whole failed configure thing? [00:52] You mean I can't pay in dog shit? [00:52] archiebenedict: documentation? [00:52] archiebenedict: proper slackbuilds will list it in the readme [00:52] We do not accept checks for payment, sir. [00:52] archie, if the app is worth it's slt, the dev will have documented it [00:52] This channel has really gone down the drain over the past few months [00:52] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [00:53] antiwire: yup. [00:53] s/slt/salt [00:53] ##slackware: mode change '+o rworkman' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [00:53] ##slackware: mode change '+d blk-138-5-142.eastlink.ca/24.138.5.142' by rworkman!n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman [00:53] we need a few more ops, especially ones with zero tolerance on racism and trolling. [00:53] Well, I am a trained gastroenterologist, how about a free colonoscopy? [00:53] ##slackware: mode change '+d cpe-74-69-204-27.maine.res.rr.com/74.69.204.27' by rworkman!n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman [00:53] David, are you there? [00:53] heh [00:53] game is up i see. [00:53] got a question about rc.inet1.conf. what is the difference between WLAN_KEY and wpa-psk key under WLAN_IWPRIV [00:54] damn - i just witnessed some fun. [00:54] do I need to put same key in two places? [00:54] I use a 64 digit hexadecimal key [00:54] WLAN_KEY is for wep and wpa-psk key is for wpasupplicant, I believe [00:54] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*=4a45cc1b@gateway/web/freenode/x-krbkorkpwffvqeht' by rworkman!n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman [00:54] NCOOnline kicked from ##slackware by rworkman: rworkman [00:54] + [00:54] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*=188a058e@gateway/web/freenode/x-thmjazbwegtukbof' by rworkman!n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman [00:54] GigantosPenos kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned [00:54] +1 [00:55] ##slackware: mode change '-o rworkman' by rworkman!n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman [00:55] alisonken1home, thanks. that will explain it. So I should keep WLAN_KEY commented out. [00:55] cryptic0: it's been a while, so take it with a grain of salt [00:55] :p it makes sense though [00:55] I use wicd now since it's easier to work with [00:56] if you are using WPA, you should put that stuff in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [00:56] and theres now wicd-curses [00:56] Dammit. Explicit asshats are easy to handle - there's no wiggle room associated with "should I kick or not?" [00:56] rworkman: true [00:56] It's the channel regulars and such who get their heads stuck up their ass every now and then who cause the *real* problems. [00:56] :) [00:56] yeah I have a fully functional wpa_supplicant and I have never tinkered with the rc.inet1.conf, but I thought I will look into it. [00:57] because right now I have to manually run wpa_supplicant everytime I want connection [00:57] unixfool: can i pm you? [00:57] cryptic0: try wicd - nice python wrapper for wireless [00:57] it's in /extra [00:58] and has a ncurses interface now [00:58] wicd-curses is a nice addition [00:58] alisonken1home, not a big fan of gui managers. but will try. [00:58] whats ncurses interface? [00:58] lol thats so funny to me [00:58] cryptic0: are you familiar with pkgtools for slackware? [00:59] hmmmm not sure. [00:59] if you're running slackware, open a terminal as root and type "pkgtools" [00:59] that's ncurses interface [00:59] cryptic0: what you can do is set: WLAN_WPA[0-or whateverinterface]="wpa_supplicant" [00:59] ruben23 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) left ##slackware. [00:59] hmm. what do you use to install packages? [00:59] also, the slackware installer is ncurses based [01:00] wicd now has an ncurses client? that's good news [01:00] installpkg and upgradepkg [01:00] and also WLAN_WPADRIVE[0-orwhateverinterface]=" [01:00] archiebenedict: depends on the package, but if you already have the txz, it's "installpkg .txz [01:00] no i was asking him [01:00] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [01:00] then all the rest of the config for WPA or WEP etc it handled by wpa_supplicant in /etc/wpa_supplicant [01:00] archiebenedict: however, I typically also use sbopkg [01:01] im thinking of installing that [01:01] does it have a gui browser? [01:01] been using it since it came out [01:01] archiebenedict: http://www.slackbuilds.org [01:01] no sbopkg is like pkgtools - ncurses [01:01] ncurses... mmm. close enough [01:01] http://sbopkg.org [01:01] how to invoke wicd? [01:02] funny, it doesnt have a slackbuild on slackbuilds [01:02] no - sbopkg is separate [01:02] it rsyncs slackbuilds.org [01:03] wicd-client for gui-applet or wicd-curses i guess. i use the applet. looking for curses tho.:) [01:04] omg this is beautiful [01:04] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:05] Jhonny_blade (n=Jhonny_b@cpe-173-89-216-159.insight.res.rr.com) left irc: "http://irc2go.com/" [01:09] fwbuilder or webmin. which is better? [01:11] BP{k}, the mkinitrd_command_generator came up with the same command as I have been trying. [01:13] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:14] anybody knows, why happen with this http://pastebin.com/m66ed3168 when i execute ldconfig ? [01:16] I'm not much on spanish, but it looks like the ld.so.conf file is pointing to the wrong directories for your .so files [01:16] Waluyo (n=Waluyo@222.124.207.250) left irc: "Leaving" [01:16] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [01:17] figabo: are you running slack32 or slack64? [01:17] hi [01:17] godling: yo [01:17] alisonken1home, slack32 [01:18] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:18] if my assumption (!) of some of these are correct - example line 7 is saying that libkggznet.so.4.2.0 is not a proper ELF format binary [01:18] for example [01:18] alisonken1home, how can i fix? [01:19] like I said, I don't speak spanish, so I'm only guessing [01:20] What's the problem? [01:20] either that, or the .so files listed were compiled for a different version of the kernel/gcc than what you have on your system [01:20] godling: http://pastebin.com/m66ed3168 [01:20] alisonken1home, http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpastebin.com%2Fm66ed3168&sl=es&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 [01:20] appears to be spanish for his language [01:21] archiebenedict: thanks [01:21] jhw (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [01:21] figabo: those libraries appear to be compiled against a different o/s kernel gcc set than what you have on your system [01:21] your assumption is correct alisonken1noc [01:22] babelfish confirms it [01:22] "# [01:22] /sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libkggznet.so is not a file ELF - it has the mistaken magical bytes in the beginning." [01:22] the only fix would be to get the sources for those libraries and recompile on your slackware box that you're running [01:22] ugh, pastebin sucks [01:23] figabo: ^^^ [01:23] codepad.org is much better [01:23] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:23] figabo: or find the package that was compiled against your version of slackware [01:23] alisonken1home, thnaks, im looking for the packages [01:23] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:25] BP{k}, I think I fixed it. [01:26] archiebenedict: thanks for the conversion :) [01:27] np [01:27] figabo: http://archlinux-es.org/foros/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1662 [01:28] similar error with libraries, for your understanding [01:28] (although with arch linux, not slackware) [01:28] quit [01:28] slackware_bob (n=slackwar@adsl-76-249-229-126.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:28] yayy!!! [01:29] i fixed my raid 0 [01:29] spook, you there? [01:30] AsSlowAsHell: no, go away [01:30] haha [01:30] yeah.. my motherboard bios or something or orther [01:30] overwrote the last sector of the hard drive [01:30] it had some junk [01:30] with the model number, serial, and vesion/date of my bios on there [01:30] where the PRIVHEAD should have been [01:31] i dont care. [01:31] i just copied the PRIVHEAD from sector 6 [01:31] over to the last sector [01:31] and now everything is fine [01:31] are you deaf? [01:31] i dont care if you dont care [01:31] you read my text [01:31] and its already too late :) [01:31] enjoy your aids [01:31] XD [01:31] Let us be civil. :-) [01:32] spook has mood swings, he scares me [01:32] you cant unread what has been read ;) [01:32] yes but you can kill something that isn't dead yet. [01:32] godling: ++ [01:33] godling, would that be using TCP/IP punch? [01:33] i prefer the low altitude orbital frozen eel cannon [01:34] you mean the TCP/IP low altitude orbital frozen eel cannon [01:34] Oh how I wish it were the case, but sometimes you just have to resort to an old-school prison-style shanking. [01:36] AsSlowAsHell: why are you pm'ing me without permission? [01:37] theres a whole RFC on nettique [01:37] One thing I like about oftc is the callerid user mode [01:38] arno (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:38] Hermann (n=Hermannn@81.170.156.174) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [01:39] AsSlowAsHell: yes, you do need my permission to pm me. That is in the channel rules. [01:39] thanks all, the problem is solved. i need to have reinstall the package kdegames [01:39] figabo: glad to help [01:39] have fun [01:39] =) [01:41] ok then shall i spam this meaningless BS in here? :D [01:41] only if you want to be kicked [01:41] AsSlowAsHell (n=jigg@74-130-170-175.dhcp.insightbb.com) left ##slackware. [01:41] AsSlowAsHell: no, you can leave :) [01:41] too late :) [01:41] never too late for an idiot to leave [01:42] who's next? [01:42] Action: godling eyes jeev [01:42] ;P [01:44] kozandr (n=kozandr@92.243.174.247) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:44] kozandr (n=kozandr@92.243.174.247) joined ##slackware. [01:44] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:46] godling: so, who do you think would make a good op in here? [01:46] I _could_ be :) [01:46] not me [01:46] I'm not even-tempered. [01:46] but I'm easy so may take some extra before kicking [01:47] alisonken1noc: i dont think we need a tolerant op. [01:47] as rworkman posited - the trolls are easy - it's the regulars that are hard to herd [01:49] most of the regulars hate me anyway, i could do it [01:49] hate is a bit much [01:50] we just need to move all the shit to ##slackofftopic [01:50] and nix the trolls and racism before people have a chance to feed/react to it [01:50] Looking for new ops? [01:51] discussing about ops for the graveyard shift [01:51] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-105.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [01:51] Ah. [01:51] I'm not on late enough, and I'mm too busy anyway [01:51] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [01:51] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:51] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:52] this is the day for me. [01:52] when i'm usually quite active [01:53] It's almost 2300 here [01:53] here too [01:53] cyborg-one (n=iceknigh@nas-12-039.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:53] socal [01:53] maybe my here and your here is here [01:55] Indeed socal [01:55] downtown l.a. [01:55] put up a wifi beacon [01:55] SGV, alisonken1noc [01:55] we have one, but it's in the basement with the servers :) [01:56] south gate/vernon? [01:56] San Gabriel Valley [01:56] ah [01:56] :P [01:57] oh also, at this time of day i'm usually sober :) [01:57] Inland Valley [01:57] so cal slack off [01:57] inland valley or inland empire? [01:57] I'm near the I210, I15, and I10 [01:57] inland empire - where I live [01:57] einsenhower was pretty cool. [01:57] i was just out there [01:57] way far out there [01:57] el centro [01:58] it's all IE [01:58] my daughter lives near el centro [01:58] you can thank him for the interstates [01:58] I was born in the IE and will probably die in the IE. Wee. [01:58] lol [01:58] spook: true - it all started with getting military around and public works projects [01:59] Eisenhower is my favorite dead president. [01:59] alisonken1noc: all/most of the intersections are supply depos or army bases [01:59] yep [01:59] ok so we know the where of equation, what is the when and whoever can come up with the ssn wins the game [01:59] godling: also one of the only 2 people to ever get to the rank of 5 star general. [02:00] well, since 5-star is during wartime only .... :) [02:00] If Eisenhower were president today he'd be kicking ass. [02:00] alisonken1noc: yeah but only him and washington were awesome enough. [02:00] good point [02:00] Washington doesn't really count. [02:01] of course it helps that they're the only generals that had wars that were actually worth something [02:01] War is never any good, arguably. [02:01] s/any good/worth anything/ [02:01] like you say, arguable :) [02:02] _starting_ a war is a different matter. [02:02] notice that all the interstates are set back from the cost a bit? [02:02] einsenhower was concerned about costal invasion, but not so much about paradrops [02:02] _most_ - not all [02:03] 5/405 run a good part of socal coastline [02:03] I've driven them many times [02:03] 101 is and epic coast run too [02:03] 101 is not an interstate - but it's a great cruise [02:04] alisonken1noc: but theres another interstate thats inland though? [02:04] but it's a "route" and not an intersate [02:04] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenhower#International_awards [02:04] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [02:04] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [02:05] spook: 5 [02:05] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [02:05] and 15 [02:06] alisonken1noc: ? [02:06] your q. about interstate inland [02:06] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:07] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Interstate_5_map.png [02:07] Waluyo (n=Waluyo@222.124.207.250) joined ##slackware. [02:07] surely that is not a "good part" of coastline? [02:09] spook: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_101#Others [02:09] spook: 101 [02:09] [citation needed] [02:09] lets take this ##slackofftopic :P [02:09] why? [02:09] nobody is saying anything anyways [02:10] distrust (n=distrust@69-196-189-228.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [02:11] godling: leading by example :) [02:11] apathy by example [02:11] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-105.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [02:12] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [02:12] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.12.26) joined ##slackware. [02:14] not quite apathy [02:15] hey everyone :) [02:15] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:16] anyone got some time to help me with my wireless? for some reason my wireless adapter isn't showing up in lspci, i'm trying to figure out what's wrong [02:16] distrust: usb? [02:16] pcmcia? [02:16] dunno, it's built-in. [02:16] EEE PC, 1000HE [02:16] laptop? [02:16] a kde4/slack13 gui program looks very funny over ssh on an xfce/slack12.2 box :-) and throws a bunch of X related errors, i guess due to slack13 having a newer X. [02:16] distrust: ooooh. [02:17] distrust: is it disabled in bios? [02:17] shouldn't be, i haven't changed it [02:17] may also need to check the rfkill switch [02:17] check. i have a feeling thats the solution. [02:17] alisonken1noc: :) [02:18] alisonken1noc: its all software on the eeepc [02:18] Kowalczyk: yo [02:18] slava_dp: yeah... [02:18] i will check the bios, maybe it's reverted a setting somewhere [02:19] distrust: does lspci show unkown devices? [02:19] Axius (n=fd@92.82.79.219) joined ##slackware. [02:19] no unknown devices, no [02:19] what's weird is the wireless used to work [02:19] can you pastebin your lspci output? [02:19] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Connection timed out [02:20] i used to have gentoo on here, several kernels ago it'd work fine with the wireless using the ath9k driver [02:20] but a few months ago i upgraded some stuff, wireless stopped working [02:20] then i figured giving slack a try couldn't hurt [02:20] still the same problem [02:20] modprobe ath9k does nothing [02:20] modprobe ath9k> [02:21] what does dmsg show after loading ath9k? [02:21] iwconfig still is empty after doing that [02:21] and dmesg | tail after the modprobe? [02:21] distrust: check the bios. trust me. [02:22] also... /sys/module/eeepc/blahblahblah/wlan should be 1 [02:22] if its not then echo 1 > pathto/wlan [02:22] i'm gonna check the bios [02:23] brb [02:23] spook, weird stuff. i did not know it's all software-controlled on the eee. [02:23] distrust (n=distrust@69-196-189-228.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: "leaving" [02:23] lots of software controlled stuff in laptops [02:23] slava_dp: yuppers :) [02:25] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.249.99) joined ##slackware. [02:32] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-66-190.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [02:34] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:44] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-162-151.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:44] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). 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[03:01] hello [03:01] Action: init[1] o/ waves to slackers ;) [03:02] hey [03:02] heya [03:02] :) [03:03] greets too [03:03] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:04] The-Croupier: aah did you settle on any tools ? [03:04] init[1]: nope, since i have quite a few email accounts...still looking [03:05] aah, :) [03:05] there was an idea to create an account for each one in thunderbird and then to check the mails... but that wouldnt help much..since i need the rss to be configured separately for each one of them..:( [03:06] Waluyo (n=Waluyo@222.124.207.250) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:06] The-Croupier: what about google reader? [03:06] didn't that help? [03:06] init[1]: still you have to log in to gmail or something.. [03:06] i have 2 gmail accounts...:( that means logging out from one to check the other..etc [03:06] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:07] google apps? [03:07] The-Croupier: you just need google reader on 1 account and reader will fetch the feeds [03:08] init[1]: yep..for that account..how about the other account? [03:08] just paste the feed link to reader ! tada.. [03:08] init[1]: yeah..i configured that for one account..did that already... the problem is not that..the problem is my various accounts.. hotmail,gmail,yahoo...etc [03:09] according to importance during the years i created at least one of each.... [03:09] The-Croupier: but i don't get,what does feeds have to do with your accounts? [03:09] init[1]: some of them forums need you to be logged in to get the feeds ;) [03:09] google reader is just an apps that is clubbed with you google account , [03:10] archiebl3h (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:10] The-Croupier: oh,! [03:10] 15:09 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Registered : Feb 19 11:29:09 2006 (3 years, 33 weeks, 6 days, 19:40:46 ago) [03:10] thats how long i've been in ##slackware [03:11] spook: how did you get that? whats the command? [03:11] spook: congrats :) [03:11] because back then, it was +r so i had to register my nick to join [03:11] The-Croupier /msg nickserv info The-Croupier [03:11] Nick change: alisonken1noc -> alisonken1 [03:11] linXea (n=e@nomad-ult-c4185.data.slu.se) joined ##slackware. [03:12] linXea (n=e@nomad-ult-c4185.data.slu.se) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:12] 2years 27weeks exactly [03:12] Nick change: alisonken1 -> alisonken1noc [03:12] Action: init[1] lunch time cya guys [03:12] init[1]: thanks bro bye [03:12] The-Croupier: :) yw [03:12] spook: what's the command to get that info? [03:12] spook: i had various nicknames during the years...so that means ive been around much longer [03:13] alisonken1noc: check above [03:13] alisonken1noc: /msg -freenode nickserv info [03:13] thanks [03:13] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.12.26) left irc: "Leaving" [03:13] Nick change: alisonken1noc -> alisonken1 [03:14] The-Croupier: i've had a few over the years [03:14] but not on freenode [03:14] NickServ [NickServ@services.]: Registered : Jan 24 19:54:41 2006 (3 years, 37 weeks, 4 days, 11:19:54 ago) [03:15] Nick change: alisonken1 -> alisonken1noc [03:15] spook: same here [03:15] i remember being in slackware around 3 or 4 years ago..and using ubuntu... for like one week [03:16] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: "just to eat" [03:16] than i remembered i used to use slackware in the good old days ( the diskettes days) then i switched back in seconds..never gone back since [03:17] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:17] hehehe [03:17] spook: you mean I've been registered longer than you? [03:18] a whole 4 weeks even :) [03:18] ohhh here we go..boys stuff... my ehem ehem is bigger than yours.. my milkshake is better than yours..etc [03:18] hah\ [03:18] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:19] any one here? [03:19] no [03:19] toastytoast: no one here sorry. [03:19] distrust (n=distrust@69.196.189.228) joined ##slackware. [03:19] damn it [03:19] we left [03:19] toastytoast: especially none of the people listed by /names [03:19] everyone joined #buntu [03:19] i have no idea how, but my bios managed to disable my wireless card seeminly on its own [03:19] alisonken1noc: yeah well... i have a bigger uptime than you! [03:20] :) [03:20] distrust: :) [03:20] well jsut onwdering if you were all afk or soemthing [03:20] re-enabled it, set up rc.inet1.conf and i'm now on wireless [03:20] thanks so much :) [03:20] distrust: np. [03:20] but i have a conundrum i'm trying to solve [03:20] maybe i can think about sleep now... hmm... [03:21] i need to copy alot of files one after the other in different directories to a different name [03:21] cp -a [03:21] i'm very much enjoying slackware, i couldn't believe it when i had it all installed in less than an hour [03:22] i was under the impression it'd be more difficult than gentoo, heh [03:22] well this is the problem its for freets on fire songs some fo the songs only have a guitar track i want to copy guitar.ogg to song.ogg [03:22] seems pretty easy so far [03:22] i tried this find -type f -name 'guitar.ogg' -exec cp guitar* song.ogg {} \; [03:22] but copy doesn't like that [03:22] toastytoast: use .ogg instead of * [03:22] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: No route to host [03:23] even with ogg it didn' [03:23] novacrust (n=Crust@72.12.184.33) joined ##slackware. [03:23] distrust (n=distrust@69.196.189.228) left irc: Client Quit [03:23] 't work i get a bunch of cp: target `./Queen - Killer Queen/guitar.ogg' is not a directory [03:23] well for each different directory but it the same msg [03:24] heh. [03:24] and i really don't want to go into every directory to copy guitar.ogg to song.ogg [03:25] -execdir might help ? [03:26] Axius_ (n=fd@92.82.95.33) left irc: "leaving" [03:26] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:27] Axius (n=fd@92.82.95.33) joined ##slackware. [03:28] toastytoast: [03:29] toastytoast: try cp {} song.ogg \; [03:29] When I try to run Emacs I get this msg error: emacs: error while loading shared libraries [03:29] linXea (n=e@nomad-ult-c4185.data.slu.se) joined ##slackware. [03:29] that seems to have workd or it is going to make my computer asplode in a few minute [03:30] heh.. hope not :) [03:30] Axius: did you do a full install? [03:30] No. [03:30] thats why. [03:30] especially /l/ [03:30] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [03:31] I install emacs with slackpkg. [03:31] slackpkg install l [03:32] well it well it didn't work exaclty but it has given me an idea of how to go about it [03:32] spook: Is to to install! [03:32] toastytoast: exactly how? [03:33] Axius: it will only install the packages from l that you're missing. [03:33] What should chose from there? [03:33] well it copied everyson form every file to ./song.ogg [03:33] everysong from every dir* [03:33] Axius: all. [03:33] toastytoast, /join #bash they are renaming experts. [03:34] thats a good idea *runs head into wo wall for nto thinking off it* [03:35] spook: thanks you very much for ad. [03:35] are any of you guys on advogato.org ? [03:36] Axius: generally /l/ is not a package series you want to skimp out on [03:36] toastytoast: Usually if I've got a bunch of files to rename,I tack the name with a timestamp added to it in bash [03:36] It's so important! [03:36] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [03:38] I want to have as fewer packages as possibile installed on my system. [03:39] Axius: unless space is an issue, thats not the slackware way. [03:40] Axius, you can't spare 4 gigs for a full install? you're going to have problems installing additional software later if your slack is not a full install. [03:41] Axius, unless you're doing embedded one-time stuff. [03:41] it's seems that I have still have the problem with shared libraries after a install l. [03:42] Axius: ldconfig [03:42] uh huh [03:42] and make sure that /etc/ld.so.conf is setup properly [03:42] What ldconfig [03:43] Axius: run that command as root [03:43] then try emacs again [03:43] ok [03:43] ldconfig is a program that sets up a cache of installed shared libraries [03:43] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:43] linXea (n=e@nomad-ult-c4185.data.slu.se) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:43] amitav_ (n=biki@117.197.242.15) joined ##slackware. [03:43] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:44] emacs: error while loading shared libraries: libSM.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [03:44] is libSM.so.6 on your system? [03:44] and where is it located [03:44] what does "ls -l /usr/lib/libSM.so.6" say? [03:45] ls: cannot access /usr/lib/libSM.so.6: No such file or directory [03:45] If it's Slackware64 then /usr/lib64/libSM.so.6 [03:45] its notable the difference between 64 and 32 [03:45] for a normal slackware user [03:45] ? [03:45] slackpkg install libSM [03:45] no [03:45] it's slack32. [03:46] no notable differences from a user perspective [03:46] Axius: have you installed all of /x/ ? [03:46] lets stay 32 ;p [03:46] heh [03:46] libSM: libSM is part of X11. [03:46] libSM-1.1.0-i486-1 is it's own package isn't it? [03:46] mingdao: thats from the slack-desc [03:47] mingdao: for x/libSM [03:47] I doesn't work either after installed libSM. [03:47] Axius, emacs in slackware is linked against the X server. [03:47] It is part of X11 but is a package to itself [03:48] mingdao: beside the point [03:48] Axius: ldd /usr/lib/libSM* [03:48] Axius: run ldconfig again? [03:48] no, it is the point [03:48] da [03:48] mingdao: i never said it wasnt its own package, this is really off-point. [03:49] byeeee [03:50] leptom (i=1000@84.125.164.86) left irc: "Leaving. Bye, bye!" [03:50] I run ldconfig again and nothing happend. [03:51] ldconfig doesn't output anything [03:51] It doesn't. [03:51] what does "ldd /usr/lib/libSM.so.6" show? [03:52] sigh. [03:53] i will put "ldd..." in file and post in on dpaste. [03:54] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:54] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [03:54] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FF37B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [03:55] sigh [03:55] and sigh again [03:55] Here is the link http://dpaste.com/107039/ [03:55] missing libICE.so.6 as well [03:55] Axius: were you hopping on one foot when you clicked post? [03:56] Axius: slackpkg install x [03:56] ALL OF IT. no exceptions [03:57] otherwise you'll come back in an hour, day, week, month with the same problem. [03:57] true,spook..a stripped OS is a nightmare waiting to happen [03:57] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) left irc: "changing servers" [03:59] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:59] mornin' lads... [03:59] afternoon [03:59] morning [03:59] Action: hoho` sleeping ... [03:59] spook: may you are right but, I don't want to have all that crap stuff on my system> [04:00] Action: spook facepalms [04:01] Action: alisonken1noc headdesks [04:03] alisonken1noc: What should I add in /etc/ld.so.conf? [04:04] if you installed from slackware install disks, you shoulnd't have to do anything. Except install _all_ of the required packages for your sytsem [04:05] I only install the first cd. [04:05] I only installed the first cd. [04:06] except you didnt install all of l [04:06] then it looks like you didn't install all of the required packages since (as spook noted) there are libraries in the x/ series that you missed [04:06] and probably missing a lot of other things too. [04:06] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) joined ##slackware. [04:06] alisonken1noc: disk 1 doesnt have x anymore [04:06] spook: my point exactly [04:06] linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0xb7fc4000) libuuid.so.1 => /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0xb7fc0000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7e60000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7ff5000) [04:08] then I will install slack again. [04:09] got it guys in #bash did help alot this is the command i eventaulyl got find -name 'guitar.ogg' -exec bash -c 'cp "$1" "${1%guitar.ogg}song.ogg"' _ {} \; [04:11] toastytoast, scary =) [04:11] It's possibile to compile emacs to work without loading shared libraries? [04:12] wonder what's the _ is for ... [04:12] a little what more scary is i'm in xfce going back to fluxbox brb [04:12] possible, yes [04:12] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [04:12] Axius, it is possible to build emacs without dependency on x. [04:12] fraktil (n=fraktil@ip68-227-80-107.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:12] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) left irc: "changing servers" [04:12] oh god. [04:12] Axius: seriously? [04:12] yskapell (n=panthro@athedsl-4496876.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:13] hello guys [04:13] anyone here that uses TWM ? [04:13] spook: [04:13] I installed slackware64 and I try to compile yakuake. [04:13] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:13] I configure I get this error [04:13] http://pastebin.com/d6aaf7643 [04:13] any idea? [04:14] slava_dp: [04:14] yskapell: export ARCH=x86_64 thats without looking at the error [04:14] Kowalczyk: any errors? [04:15] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving." [04:15] lmao2k (n=nothere@82.34.242.225) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [04:15] spook: no dice [04:16] MLanden: no. Im just trying to find out how I can have more than one desktop. or more than one screen. I see a lot of guys have swaptoscreen next stuff in the config files. but I donjt know how :d hehe [04:16] MLanden: trying to learn :d [04:17] yskapell: here is a slackbuild for yakuake http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/yakuake/ [04:17] leptom (i=1000@84.125.164.86.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [04:17] hi again [04:17] yskapell, get http://sbopkg.org and have no more problems. [04:18] Kowalczyk: what was the setup again? [04:18] alisonken1noc: hmmm?:) [04:18] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-0-49.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:18] laptop w/external monitor? [04:18] yskapell: you are missing automoc [04:18] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) joined ##slackware. [04:18] pprkut: automoc is installed [04:18] br00tal (n=Jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:19] alisonken1noc: only laptop now:d I mean like virtual desktop now.. like you have in kde,gnome,blackbox and so on :D [04:19] yskapell: the slackware package? [04:19] Kowalczyk: you mean workspaces? [04:20] yeah:d workspaces was the word. hehehe :d [04:20] br00tal (n=Jesse@96.2.156.177) joined ##slackware. [04:21] yskapell: execute this: "which automoc4" [04:21] ls -l /var/log/packages/automoc4-0.9.88-x86_64-1 [04:21] pprkut: /usr/bin/automoc4 [04:21] hmm, ok [04:22] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:22] MLanden: you know how? or if it possible? [04:22] pprkut: did you read the error which I get from the configure? [04:22] yeah [04:23] yskapell: Automoc4Config.cmake in using suffixes automoc4 lib/automoc4 <-- if you're on x86_64, then it should be looking in lib64/automoc4, shouldn't it? [04:24] Kowalczyk: with TWM,no I don't know...TWM would need some extensions..I heard 'bout CTWM a long time back [04:24] alisonken1noc: correct [04:25] then why is it looking in lib/automoc4 ? [04:26] it's not big a deal. just wondered what this command did: "Swap Screen"f.warptoscreen "next" [04:28] twm is pretty hardcore for a wm :-) [04:29] yskapell (n=panthro@athedsl-4496876.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [04:30] slava_dp: yes. I like hardcore and mimimal stuff:d [04:30] Nick change: reaver_ -> register [04:30] that's why I like my penis so well. hahahaha:D just kidding :D [04:30] Nick change: register -> Guest2238 [04:30] Kowalczyk, fluxbox too bloated for you? [04:31] just wondering what the preferred tool is amongst those in the know to convert the old configure->make->makeinstall progs into tgz packages... [04:31] rogersman, your hands that will make a slackbuild for it. [04:31] slava_dp: yeah. I have used blackbos for years. but I want to try a more minimalistic one :d [04:32] @slava_dp - by magic? [04:33] rogersman, no, by using a template from slackbuilds.org obviously. [04:33] MLanden: here is a screenshots of the desktop with the comamnd http://xwinman.org/screenshots/twm-system.gif he has swap screen. I just wonder what that is doing [04:33] i wouldn't ask if it was so obvious, would I? [04:34] were u gifted the knowledge of slackware from birth slava_dp? [04:34] rogersman, kk, sorry. just use the template and instructions from SBo. [04:34] thank u [04:36] rogersman: i was..my father had a slackware laptop when i was born 15 years ago..in the birth room, and even before that i was able to hear it from my mama's belly..the awsome sound of it loading... [04:36] ive been using it since i started learning how to read/write [04:37] Action: slava_dp was blessed with slackware knowledge since 3 lives back [04:37] i win [04:37] my first word...startx [04:37] The-Croupier: you're only 15? [04:37] Kowalczyk: dunno..check the man page [04:37] spook: no man, you know im not [04:38] @slava_dp, ur last three lives must have been damn short to only have lasted 15 years... zing! [04:38] how can i be a teacher,studied in england...and only be 15 [04:38] The-Croupier: i can think of a few ways [04:38] spook: tell me one [04:39] time traveling and becoming your own grandfather for one. [04:39] spook: sorry, tell me a reasonable one [04:39] Action: The-Croupier some people have some imagination, and the ##slackware people the wildest :p [04:39] U could be like dougie houser MD [04:40] or just very smart. :) [04:40] spook: now that i am, an modest most of all :p [04:40] :) [04:41] spook: even if you are the smartest in the world, you have to go to some classes, wait some years, finish university...that takes some years..no way i could be only 15 [04:41] spook: that is not possible even for me...;) [04:42] The-Croupier: there are professors that are only 15 [04:42] its very rare, but it happens [04:43] spook: not in university there are not [04:43] The-Croupier: not all universities, but i assure you, there are 15 or even 13 year olds that have a phd. [04:43] spook: they would be easy to bribe..buy them a collection of power rangers, or thundercats [04:44] spook: well, ive never heard or read of any of those you are talking about...maybe you are right who knows...(i am not one of those cases though) i assure you. [04:44] not saying its not without its complications. [04:44] i was a teacher at my 21 [04:44] grumpf, morning [04:45] Camarade_Tux: hiya hiya [04:45] my wife was h.s. teacher at 21 [04:45] take care,slackers...talk with all later....:D [04:45] The-Croupier: i've thought about becoming a teacher or lecturer [04:45] or was it 18? been a few years [04:45] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-153-4.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [04:45] hacfed (n=fed@host86-131-171-3.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [04:45] The-Croupier: want to take this to ##slackofftopic ? [04:46] spook: or finish it here? [04:46] hcfd (n=fed@host86-140-255-134.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:46] Action: The-Croupier damn im smart [04:46] Action: The-Croupier and modest...lets not forget that [04:46] fair enough :) [04:48] what's the offtopic channel for? /me haz no idea. [04:48] off... topic? [04:48] .!ontopic ? [04:49] pretty much [04:52] is there any app that will tell me "X special keys detected on this system" and ask me what I want to do for each one? [04:53] rogersman: The best tool/template for making and learning how to make SlackBuild scripts, thus making Slackware packages: http://alien.slackbook.org/AST/ [04:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On1drhgxGWU [04:53] lol! [04:53] it shouldn't be too hard to write but should be pretty useful [04:53] ezr (n=jpb@97-80-124-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:54] @mingdao...cheers dude, look interesting...I already saw sum tools like checkinstall, slacktrack, etc ... there seems to be quite a few different ways [04:55] @Camarade_Tux - are you referring to unmapped extra keys on keyboard? [04:55] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-0-86.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [04:56] hello geeks [04:56] cityLights (n=cityLigh@bzq-84-111-46-251.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:56] sup tewmten , mingdao [04:56] i see spook and alisonken1noc are active also [04:56] yawn [04:57] yep [04:57] dtanner: greetings [04:57] hey croup [04:57] sup dtanner ? [04:57] fraktil (n=fraktil@ip68-227-80-107.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:58] rogersman: I either make my own SlackBuild scripts or if I am in a hurry I prefer the checkinstall tool. checkinstall works well IMHO. [04:58] fraktil (n=fraktil@ip68-227-80-107.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:59] The-Croupier: same old stuff man, a little more pain than usual but I am recovering from new back problems [05:01] hoi dtanner [05:02] dtanner: wb man, hope you get well soon ;) [05:03] thanks The-Croupier [05:04] amitav_ (n=biki@117.197.242.15) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [05:04] dtanner: did you check that youtube link? its hilarious :D [05:05] tewmten: youtube always freezes up on me , maybe it is fixed in the newer versions ff+flash *shrug* [05:06] Axius (n=fd@92.82.95.33) left irc: "leaving" [05:06] ok [05:08] ezr (n=jpb@97-80-124-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [05:08] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:15] if amazon.com lists something as "refurbished", what does it mean? it's different from repackaged? [05:23] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:28] jhw (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) left irc: "leaving" [05:28] jhw (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [05:28] jhw (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) left irc: Client Quit [05:29] jhw (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [05:35] Camarade_Tux: it's usually a product that comes from a company that they used for demos, then gave it some service and is selling it [05:37] typically, refurbished has the connotation that someone has something used, but it has been reconditioned to give at least close to new performance. or at least not degraded performance [05:41] hmmm, ok, since it's from amazon.com and not .fr, I'll go for the non-refurbished one, it's already annoying enough [05:41] now, I don't want to pay for the VAT in France... [05:41] racist.. [05:41] Action: The-Croupier hides [05:42] http://www.flickr.com/groups/1109806@N21/ [05:42] cool [05:42] maybe i should get a roomba [05:42] The-Croupier: hahaha :P [05:43] The-Croupier: something is 220 euros in France, 200 dollars in the US, that's 134 euros... ;-) [05:44] http://mp3.generationmp3.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/4/files/00_2009/10_Octobre/03/global_decline_p2p_09.gif <- knew it [05:44] even though it's by port [05:56] t0f (n=foo@4.238.251.228) joined ##slackware. [05:57] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:58] Guest2238 (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:58] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.249.99) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [06:00] reaver_ (n=reaver@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [06:01] Camarade_Tux: refurbished means 'refreshed' by manufacturer. [06:02] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:02] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) left irc: "Leaving" [06:02] it's not just demos. in fact, vast majority of those products are the ones returned under warranty for various reasons, inspected and fixed when applicable, thus 'refurbished' [06:03] that too [06:03] i just know a friend of mine has been selling refurbished products from his company and then it's always been products used in demos.. [06:03] but they're usually covered under a new warranty also if its refurbished [06:04] yep [06:04] factory refurbished, true [06:04] yes [06:04] Camarade_Tux: www.dell.com/outlet is a good example [06:06] http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfh/peripherals/monitor/ct.aspx?refid=monitor&s=dfh&cs=22 <- can I haz a 20" at 85 euros? =) [06:07] yep [06:07] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:08] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:09] hmm, 24" WS LED for $229, not bad [06:10] led? [06:10] yes, LED backlit [06:10] link? [06:10] to the technology or the monitor? [06:10] monitor [06:11] http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/topics/global.aspx/arb/online/en/InventorySearch?c=us&cs=22&l=en&lob=MON&MODEL_DESC=ALL&s=dfh [06:11] (Part # U334K) [06:11] 74 still in stock [06:13] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:15] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [06:16] that's really tempting [06:16] http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&sku=320-7956 has it listed at $304US with $40 savings for a price of $269 [06:16] aigon (n=rm@92.82.91.108) joined ##slackware. [06:16] it's actually lcd, though [06:16] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-45-151-98.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:16] according to the tech specs [06:17] tft active matrix lcd [06:17] i found that tech specs were sometimes simply copied from the other models, and not adjusted correctly [06:18] on your link or my link? [06:18] and what mattered was the product model [06:18] in general with dell [06:23] on that subject, i got a meeting with dell regional reps this morning. i need to start a list [06:23] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:26] "G2410 24 inch Wide Green Flat Panel Monitor with 3 Year Warranty - $185.40". found the LCD one [06:26] this google wave have frozen my firefox :-/ [06:27] init[1]: no, your firefox froze because it's firefox [06:28] ananke: i think its the ajax thingy , its using too much share of cpu [06:28] arno (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:28] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [06:29] both? [06:29] yes [06:29] Action: ananke is waiting for chrome to fully support flash [06:29] I mean, because of wave and because of ff [06:29] arno (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [06:29] Action: Camarade_Tux may have his browser ready before chrome supports flash [06:29] Camarade_Tux: its coz of wave, it seems to spit too much errors [06:30] I say both :) [06:30] jareth__ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:30] uva (i=bno@118.160.166.250) joined ##slackware. [06:30] more over it fetched my moblie number for my contact details which i had kept private :-/ [06:31] boom firefox just crashed! poor thing! [06:31] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:33] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.199.167) joined ##slackware. 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[07:42] I'd be fine just uninstalling wicd (which i have for now) though i'd like to know why it would do this. The only error i get from wicd.log is; dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory. Though upon inspection the file is actually there along with Dbus.pid. [07:43] If I start wicd after boot it seems to start though after a minute or two it will fail, specifically when I attempt to connect to the access point. [07:44] which version of slack? [07:44] 13 [07:44] try removing/reinstalling wicd? [07:44] tryed that also. [07:45] and the user using wicd part of the net (whichever the net group is) group? [07:45] same group as wicd daemon [07:45] /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket= and there is no number is there supposed to be one after the = sign? [07:45] no [07:45] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:45] it crashes the whole *system*? [07:45] Hi [07:45] yes, the user is in netdev [07:45] Camarade_Tux: Yes [07:45] have to catch me at home - don't have wicd installed on this machine [07:46] if it crashes the system, that sounds like a driver issue [07:46] not wicd [07:46] sysreqkey don't even work, ctrl+alt+f2 f1 etc [07:46] mrselfpwn: have you tried running wicd-client as root? and what happens if you use iwconfig + dhcpcd? [07:47] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: "leaving" [07:47] i have not tryed the client as root. one sec [07:47] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:48] Just as a not the filesystem is XFS. [07:48] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:48] note [07:49] well, that should matter actually [07:49] (for both the FS and how you run wicd) [07:50] and which wireless driver? [07:50] wow, interesting. wicd-client as root works and allows me to connect. [07:50] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:51] rtl8180 module [07:51] well, seems it matters actually :P [07:51] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.88.19) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:51] so it would seem [07:51] have you tried reinstalling dbus? [07:51] (which is half risky) [07:51] johndee (n=id@93-81-137-37.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [07:51] no, because it's half risky. :P [07:52] ps aux |grep dbus [07:52] ? [07:53] dbus-daemon --system *--sh-syntax --exit-with-session *--fork --print-address 7 --session [07:54] one is dbus-launch actually [07:54] huh [07:54] /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system [07:54] and not the other weird one [07:54] hmmm [07:54] mrselfpwn: you use emacs? [07:55] /usr/bin/dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session [07:55] i have it installed and use it sometimes yes [07:55] " dbus-daemon --system *--sh-syntax --exit-with-session *--fork --print-address 7 --session" is really really weird [07:55] no lol [07:55] i just used the * to shorten it [07:56] *=/usr/bin/dbus-daemon [07:56] well, even that is weird [07:56] I appologize for the confusion [07:57] in /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus, in the start() function, do you have "/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system 1> /dev/null"? [07:57] It is an older computer system. [07:57] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:58] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [07:58] yes [07:59] '/etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus restart' ? [08:00] well, first, are you running kde or anything else? [08:01] okay, it's xfce and I just attempted to disconnect the wicd-client I had running as root and my sytem just went to lunch. 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[08:17] ciao g4tt0 [08:18] Camarade_Tux: okay, ifconfig wlan0 up locks up the system [08:18] hi Camarade_Tux && mrselfpwn [08:18] driver issue then [08:18] hello metrofox [08:19] allend (n=allend@121.214.135.145) joined ##slackware. [08:19] hey metrofox, hi g4tt0 [08:19] Camarade_Tux, what's up? =) [08:21] Axius (n=fd@92.84.7.112) joined ##slackware. [08:21] wmaster not using net_device_ops yet mean anything? [08:22] metrofox: wlan0 (at least for me) [08:22] okay, even in init 1 ifconfig wlan0 up is causing my system to hang. think it's the card or the driver? driver is default kernel module. [08:22] (sorry for the baaaad joke :D ) [08:23] Action: mrselfpwn smacks Camarade_Tux [08:23] lol [08:23] doh! [08:23] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [08:24] the kernel's menuconfig would deserve a good sort [08:24] maybe the old pci interface has trouble supporting the wireless card. [08:24] it shows in the bios as unknown network device. [08:25] sort these menus and give me O(log(n)) lookup rather than 0(n)! [08:25] mornin [08:25] morning agentc0re [08:25] mrselfpwn: shouldn't be a problem [08:26] mrselfpwn: I bet you've always wondered how those guys debuggued the kernel :) [08:26] mornin agentc0re [08:26] I heard troubling news that one of you was being even funnier than usual yesterday after I left... [08:26] one of us? [08:26] hmm [08:26] well, it'll give me something to do [08:27] mmm... [08:27] haldir: :) [08:27] my jokes make you cry, so... It wasn't me! [08:27] must have been Camarade_Tux , that looks like a guilty grin [08:27] how can i debug it if it's locking up my system though? especially with XFS filesystem. [08:27] or at least groan like a good pun [08:27] my jokes are not even jokes... [08:28] gnubien (n=e@58.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:28] mrselfpwn: would Ctrl+Alt+Del or pressing the power button (only one second, not 3 or 5), shutdown the system? (give it time) [08:28] does flipping the outside house breaker turn your pc off? :P [08:29] neyt, neither work. [08:29] nyet* [08:29] agentc0re, it might [08:29] agentc0re: I've always used a double-handed axe for that :) [08:30] no, i live in a sandbox [08:30] ba dum baa [08:30] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [08:31] mrselfpwn: have you used linux on that machine before? [08:31] was that noise your sandbox falling? ;) [08:31] nope [08:31] and nope [08:32] don't make me turn into my alter ego [08:32] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [08:32] -> http://bugzilla.kernel.org I guess [08:32] toastyto1st (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:32] Nick change: mrselfpwn -> mrpwner [08:32] toastytoast (n=toast@208.233.36.250) joined ##slackware. [08:32] RAWR too late. [08:33] mrpwner: how old is the computer? [08:33] pga730 slot for p3/celron [08:33] btw, do you get flashing leds on your keyboard when that happens? [08:34] ouch :P [08:34] 466mhz [08:34] what does "livered" mean? [08:34] yeah, the motherboard doesn't even have jumper except for password and cmos. [08:35] the case is really really easy to work on though and super nice. [08:35] ice like this laptop http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_configurator.asp?PRID=14934 [08:35] happy git bisect'ing btw :) [08:36] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [08:36] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.21.58) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:37] :) [08:38] i'll just make a really long ether net cable. :D [08:38] nachox (n=imarambi@190.216.26.210) joined ##slackware. [08:38] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.24.105) joined ##slackware. [08:39] i would like to see this driver work though. [08:39] I'd git clone on another computer, and tar everything [08:39] if I were to git bisect [08:39] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:41] hmm, well just out of curiosity, do you think it has anything to do with XFS? [08:43] i don't even know where to start with kernel debuggin. heh [08:44] Axius_ (n=fd@92.84.21.106) joined ##slackware. [08:47] no [08:47] bugzilla ;) [08:49] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:51] mrpwner: btw, the reason you had several dbus-daemons running was most certainly dbus, I had forgotten something [08:52] [...] and a session bus used by a single user's ongoing GNOME session. A session bus normally carries traffic under only a single user identity, [...] [08:55] Okay. Thanks. It is xfce btw. [08:57] jhw (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) left irc: "leaving" [08:57] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. 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I can't hibernate my laptop: /usr/lib/pm-utils/pm-functions: line 275: echo: write error: Cannot allocate memory [09:09] my googling skills are failing me; this rings a bell to anyone? [09:11] sounds like your pmutils functions don't have enough ram to load the program [09:12] mrpwner: yeah, xfce, but they have the same needs and kde probably does the same too ;) [09:12] Kowalczyk: why would you want that? [09:12] I know... cant connect to things over 1024 at work.. efnet runs a few ports under [09:12] Kaapa: do you have a swap partition? [09:13] Kowalczyk: ssh? [09:13] therefore :D I was planning on using xchat at work. psybnc then from home :d [09:13] allend++ [09:13] Camarade_Tux: wanted to use xchat :d [09:13] #kde is such a load of shit grrrrrr [09:13] rogersman++ [09:13] hehe [09:13] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:14] Kowalczyk: you could port-forware [09:14] Action: Camarade_Tux gone with the wind [09:14] qwebirc72475 (i=c4ca1bad@gateway/web/freenode/x-dwsujkrebmrujnwr) left irc: "Page closed" [09:15] or you could use web clients [09:15] allends - why should suspend be affected by swap? just curious :-) [09:16] rogersman: Kaapa said hibernate. The memory is saved to the swap partition during hibernate. [09:17] oh okay...thats makes more sense... [09:17] and you also need to add to lilo.conf so that the swap device is checked on resume. [09:17] Hi strangers [09:21] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.144) joined ##slackware. [09:23] whats up slackers [09:24] spook, I'm slacking [09:24] as ever... [09:24] i'm kernel coding [09:24] spook, good! what are you coding in particular? [09:24] Camarade_Tux: if that I can use irssi here. I just wanted to use xchat from work :D [09:24] metrofox: linuxpmi [09:25] good [09:25] metrofox: :) [09:25] PMI project is also good [09:26] metrofox: you have an interest in process migration? [09:26] No I don't right now... =) [09:27] do you know what it is? [09:27] I've to understand its structures and its abilities first.. I'm reading something about right now [09:27] ah ojk [09:27] spook, yes I do =) I'm getting a little more documented [09:27] come join us in #linuxpmi and help out [09:28] spook, I'm not an expert but I can join [09:29] sure! [09:29] spook: what use do *you* see in pmi? [09:30] Camarade_Tux: well its clustering that doesn't require purpose written programs, what do you think? [09:31] but don't you get horrible latencies and what if you have to migrate a resource between machines? [09:31] it's already a performance-killer between cores [09:31] lol, what? [09:32] its not for latency critical things [09:32] Axius (n=fd@92.84.21.106) joined ##slackware. [09:32] so are the processes typically short-lived or long-lived [09:32] its for things that needs massive amounts of resources? [09:32] (and I didn't mean latency as in hard-latency/kernel lingua ;) ) [09:33] lets say for example, mass image processing [09:34] you start simultanious jobs up to the number of cores you have in the cluster on the machine with the images [09:34] then the scheduler etc just starts distributing them around the clustered machines [09:35] all the file IO is done on the host computer [09:35] so libraries etc are no problem [09:35] would that turn *any* program with multiple processes into something able to work on several machines through the network, without modification or with only minor ones? [09:35] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:36] Camarade_Tux: the current code base cant do multithreaded programs. [09:36] no, not multithreading, multiprocess [09:36] theres no reason it shouldnt be possible, theres just no code for dealing with it yet. [09:36] like, would 'make -jX ' take advantage ok that? [09:36] yeah pretty much [09:36] yeah it would. [09:36] allend: typical .... ask the question and forget to look for the answer [09:36] JsonicG (n=JsonicG@189.63.210.6) joined ##slackware. [09:36] ah, very good then :) [09:37] it's very useful [09:37] and you can give a weighting to each node, so some are used more than others [09:37] allend: yes, I have a swap partition of 8Gb [09:38] spook: when migrating processes, how big are they typically? (only the "programs", not the associated data) [09:38] big how? [09:38] MB? [09:39] of what? [09:39] I mean, how much data has to be transferred for each new program? is it something comparable to the VIRT mem usage? is it the space taken on the disk? [09:40] i dont know. [09:40] i dont understand the codebase well enough [09:41] yeah, sounds like a pretty complicated topic [09:41] Kratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.151) joined ##slackware. [09:41] bash boys.... the expresssion var=${var:-"tequila"} assigns the value tequila to var unless otherwise defined previously, right? [09:42] #bash [09:42] come on [09:42] Kratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.151) left irc: Client Quit [09:43] Kaapa: have you been following /usr/doc/pm-utils-1.2.5/README.SLACKWARE? [09:43] no :S [09:43] lemme check, I followed a lot of them at the time [09:44] rogersman: afaik, yes [09:46] rogersman: yes [09:46] allend: yeah, everything seems fine there [09:47] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.144) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:47] nk [09:47] reaver_ (n=reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:48] allend: and the "If it doesn't work by default for you, consider having a look at..." points to a broken link [09:49] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [09:50] reaver_ (n=reaver@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [09:50] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [09:51] hi. does anyone here know how to get the date of a given revision number for subversion? svn -r 1234 <-- what is the date for this revision? [09:51] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:51] Kaapa: you do have the 'append = "resume=/dev/hda2"' or whatever is appropriate for your swap partition in /etc/lilo.conf? [09:52] what is the easiest way to read plain text/UTF-8 emails so that the urls are clickable? [09:52] allend: yes. My problem is not resuming, it's hibernating [09:53] eeeGuitarman (n=guitarma@209.121.157.169) joined ##slackware. [09:53] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [09:53] $ cat /sys/power/image_size -> 4194304000 [09:54] novacrust (n=Crust@72.12.184.33) joined ##slackware. [09:55] Kaapa: do you have a lot of applications open when you try to hibernate? Perhaps you could try with only a minimal number of apps open. [09:55] I indeed have a lot of apps, and sometimes it works [09:55] josteint: svn log -r 1234 [09:55] but I don't understand the limit, as I have 7Gb of free swap and only 4Gb of ram (3.1 reported, the rest is videocard) [09:57] Kaapa: perhaps you should increase the size of your swap partition. @x RAM is recommended. [09:57] s/@/2/ [09:57] Axius (n=fd@92.84.21.106) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:57] 7 gigs is plenty [09:57] hum... [09:57] 4Gb of ram, 8Gb of swap [09:57] 2x was recommended in like 2002 [09:58] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:539) joined ##slackware. [09:58] I'm telling 7gb is what I have free *now* [09:58] so I wuold expect it to be enough to hibernate [10:00] i agree. it should be. But maybe your apps are not allowing the hibernate to get the memory it needs to save the memory after freezing. [10:00] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [10:01] leptom: thank you! [10:01] any suggestions? [10:01] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [10:02] Blikjeha1 (n=Blikjeha@reson.soleus.nu) left irc: "Changing server" [10:03] Blikjeham (n=Blikjeha@reson.soleus.nu) joined ##slackware. [10:03] Kaapa: perhaps one or more of your apps do not play nice. I know of no other method than trial and error. [10:04] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:05] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: "leaving" [10:08] mesa_booger (n=mesa_boo@unaffiliated/mesa-booger/x-2567591) left irc: [10:09] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "peace" [10:11] k, will keep investigating, thanks [10:12] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65215fc.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:14] Kaapa: I suspect you'll find some noise in output of 'dmesg' if you look. I have that happen here sometimes, and the only fix is to reboot. [10:14] I have no idea what causes it, but usually I catch a kernel oops in dmesg associated with it. I suspect it's a buggy driver that doesn't trigger all the time [10:16] lagann_ (n=hex@24.62.142.190) joined ##slackware. [10:16] PM: Creating hibernation image: PM: Need to copy 399938 pages - PM: Not enough free memory PM: Error -12 creating hibernation image [10:17] indeed, this comes from dmesg [10:17] but no ooops here, seems just a memory problem [10:17] Very odd [10:17] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [10:19] I had KMS cause an oops about a week ago [10:20] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [10:20] kms -> "oops" -> hard reboot, and my ext4 / was no more [10:21] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:21] heh [10:21] ouch [10:22] ext4 is evil! [10:22] :D [10:22] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.53.127.163) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:22] it was a nice 30 seconds [10:22] well, its not evil.. I think they have the corruption issue fixed [10:22] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65215fc.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [10:22] that's what you get when you use filesystems that are in development [10:22] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.53.127.163) joined ##slackware. [10:22] I would have thought Linus declaring it stable 4 major kernel versions ago, I'd be OK :) [10:22] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static195097104200.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:23] he is a fedora user, though [10:23] the linux kernel is not stable ages ago, who told you that? ;) [10:23] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static195097104200.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Client Quit [10:23] at least it can do things like suspend/resume! [10:24] freebsd can too [10:24] nachox, is the depreciation of hal going to upset the o-sol guys? [10:24] if it's functionality now depends on libudev and such? [10:24] thrice`, i dont know what's going to happen with that [10:25] i know Xorg is dropping hal too [10:25] I'd think x.org would be the biggest problem [10:25] sounds like x.org will move to libudev. or maybe some devicekit-input [10:26] thrice`, X will have problems in linux too. The Xorg guys decided they'd drop hal but afaik a replacement was not yet in place [10:26] hasn't even been started, actually [10:26] ienh (n=ienh@rennes.elikya.com) left irc: "leaving" [10:26] from what I've read, it's not the use of udev that will be the trouble, but how the user will set customized stuff. obviously writing udev rules isn't acceptable [10:28] The problem with ext4 is likely not ext4 but instead e2fsprogs. There's a bug in its fsck that can corrupt a filesystem on the check after a powerfail or similar (i.e. an oops and hard reboot) [10:29] ouch! [10:29] but the whole filesystem? [10:29] From memory, yes. [10:29] I don't recall any other details; sorry :/ [10:29] and I'm at work and must go now... [10:30] later rob [10:31] ezr (n=jpb@97-80-124-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:33] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:34] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.85.237) joined ##slackware. [10:40] hrad (i=c15424f2@gateway/web/freenode/x-egpaufjqjejhvsgf) joined ##slackware. [10:41] hey, is it normal that wpa_supplicant can't put itself on background but it must be done explicitely ? [10:41] cause now it sticks on the standard output and when I terminate it, the connection shuts down [10:41] hrad: I believe there's a -b option for it [10:42] man wpa-supplicant [10:42] sorry - man wpa_supplicant [10:42] I did [10:42] but [10:42] No manual entry for wpa-supplicant [10:42] underscore not dash [10:43] hrad s/-/_/ [10:43] it's wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf or so [10:43] the '-B' is what you are after. [10:43] ou, great...thanks a lot [10:44] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [10:44] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:45] staying in the foreground is how you troubleshoot connectivity issues [10:46] vastina (i=jaird@64.215.163.99) left irc: "rebuild" [10:47] hrad (i=c15424f2@gateway/web/freenode/x-egpaufjqjejhvsgf) left ##slackware. [10:47] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. 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[10:57] leptom: i'm not able to reproduce the bug you mentioned (RE: konsole +) [10:58] reaver_ (n=reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: "powering down and out" [10:58] vbatts: hi [10:59] if you open konsole and push shift+tab [10:59] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: [10:59] don't lose the focus? [11:00] (cursor change to unfilled) [11:00] then you need to push tab again to recover the focus [11:00] vbatts: typical is /etc/my.cnf (same area where the example mysql configs should be located for default installation) [11:01] for example: open vim, push ":" (command mode), write "help" and tab [11:02] then try to push shift+tab to back to the previous item [11:02] you cann't [11:02] rworkman, I had thought anything above e2fsprogs 1.41.7 or so had fixed all of those "might eat your file" bugs [11:04] rworkman: allend: Weird. Lowering /sys/power/image_size to a nonsense value as described here - http://tinyurl.com/yhymza3 - fixed my problem :S [11:04] i know its a bit offtopic, but anyone know how to make custom splash screen on kde? kde3 instructions no longer valid... [11:04] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:05] ml4711 (n=morten@0x50a6aad2.rdnxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left ##slackware. [11:08] plop (i=51fcb5a2@gateway/web/freenode/x-ubhicvnvtatullyc) joined ##slackware. [11:09] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [11:09] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [11:09] hi all, im trying to recompile PHP with xmlrpc [11:10] the ./configure command ending fine but i have a error when i type make.. [11:10] make: *** [ext/date/php_date.lo] Error 1 [11:11] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [11:11] plop: could you paste more lines (use pastie, gist or something like this to paste)? [11:11] yep leptom [11:11] silici0 (n=silici0@201-93-128-17.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [11:12] sahko: what did you end up doing to resolv this? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/slackware-man-pages-755331/ [11:12] hey all, do me a favor and start up the python interpreter. Type some gibberish, then press escape and see if your keypresses act like vim [11:13] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:14] leptom http://pastie.org/654605 [11:15] leptom here my ./configure http://pastie.org/654609 [11:16] grazymax (n=grazymax@host254-4-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:16] br00tal (n=Jesse@96.2.156.177) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [11:17] you have a problem with the includes [11:17] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:17] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:18] br00tal (n=Jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) joined ##slackware. [11:18] what should i do ? im not an expert user.. :) [11:18] Kaapa: Nice catch, the bug report is interesting reading! [11:19] epple (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [11:19] hi all [11:19] me neither :) [11:19] can someone help me configure vsftpd [11:19] I'm searching for it [11:20] plop: you have the kernel-headers package installed? [11:20] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [11:20] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-82-189.ip101.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [11:21] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:21] leptom :/ ok.. in fact i want to install urd in order to grab newsgroup !! and it needs xmlrpc, i have to recompile php, very hard for me :) [11:21] hurray i've fixed all but 1 assembler error [11:21] camarade_tux, i dont know, im cheking that [11:21] ls /var/log/packages/kernel-headers* [11:21] plop: but xmlrpc could be installed as library [11:21] i read it [11:22] anyway you can pass the parameter; with-includes=DIRS to configure [11:22] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72408.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72408.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:23] CPPFLAGS="-I%s" too :) [11:23] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.40.82) joined ##slackware. [11:24] camarade_Tux not installed, i just install the kernel headers, here the next pb..http://pastie.org/654620 [11:24] slackytude: ! \o/ [11:24] greetings [11:24] y0 Camarade_Tux [11:24] plop: another option --with-headers=DIRS [11:25] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:25] Camarade_Tux, hows it going? [11:25] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521ad1.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:25] leptom at the end of the command ? [11:26] plop: can you "make clean", configure as slackware does (without xmlrpc) and try to compile again? if that works, reconfigure with xmlrpc and compile [11:26] python anyone? did you notice? [11:26] slackytude: fine, thanks, and you? [11:26] python? [11:26] seems /me hasn't noticed [11:26] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [11:27] Camarade_Tux, it doesn't act like vim when you press escape in the interpreter? [11:27] hiptobecubic: huh? [11:27] Action: Camarade_Tux doesn't use python [11:28] Action: Camarade_Tux abhors python :) [11:28] <3 python [11:28] anyway i can't reproduce it now [11:28] but what behaviour do you want? [11:28] Camarade_Tux : make clean is the test make command ? [11:28] e01 (n=OSCorp01@213.169.52.50) joined ##slackware. [11:28] hiptobecubic: but esc means meta too [11:28] it was acting odd such that if you type something and pressed escape, it would act like vim in normal mode with hjkl etc [11:29] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:29] plop: make clean && ./configure --as-you-wish --but-without-xml-rpc && make [11:29] does that compile successfully? [11:29] hiptobecubic: *weird* [11:29] Camarade_Tux: im french sorry for my bad english [11:30] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.40.82) left irc: "Leaving" [11:30] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-179-0.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:30] i was in #python complaining about it and they were like, 'your distro sucks and it's not python's fault so shut up' [11:30] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@141.100.40.82) joined ##slackware. [11:30] but now i can't see what it was anyway [11:30] so, i configure php without xmlrpc and run make clean after ? [11:30] plop: Why not get the original slackbuild and add the option? [11:30] hiptobecubic: see, python is bad, they have an unfriendly irc channel, stop using python! [11:31] you can get the slackbuild from here: ftp://ftp.slackware.at/slackware_source/n/php/ [11:31] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:31] Camarade_Tux, and what do you suggest. The aberration that is perl? [11:31] plop: it's just to see if it works without this specific switch [11:31] hiptobecubic: ocaml? =) [11:31] the slack package is compiled without xmlrpc [11:32] then get the original package and add the parameter [11:32] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:33] allend (n=allend@121.214.135.145) left irc: "Leaving" [11:33] leptom: slack package are already compiled no ? to add xmlrpc i have to recompile php source [11:34] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:34] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [11:34] slack package is precompiled [11:34] get the files that I said you [11:35] there's the php source too [11:35] which file? my package ? [11:35] slow [11:35] lol [11:35] eeeGuitarman (n=guitarma@209.121.157.169) left ##slackware. [11:35] download these files: ftp://ftp.slackware.at/slackware_source/n/php/ [11:36] "these are not all the files you are looking for" ;) [11:36] edit php.SlackBuild [11:36] Camarade_Tux, ocaml looks pretty bizarre i must say [11:37] i have this file http://fr.php.net/get/php-5.2.11.tar.gz/from/fr2.php.net/mirror [11:37] its the same [11:37] archiebl3h (n=archiebl@68.102.118.52) joined ##slackware. [11:37] plop: you will also need to download the files in n/alpine/ [11:37] hiptobecubic, it does [11:37] quite [11:38] got python problems? [11:38] and add around the line 201 --with-xmlrpc [11:38] and #python aint unfriendly [11:38] (add slash "\" if needed) [11:38] if BP{k}said download n/pine do it :-) [11:39] Camarade_Tux is spreading his evil ocalm propaganda I see [11:39] he know more than me about this problem [11:39] the slackware_source directory doesnt include updated sources AFAIK. php is also in patches/ [11:39] (updated) [11:39] sahko: good point. :) [11:39] yep [11:40] leptom: nah, I don't. But I do know that php requires {,al}pine to build. [11:40] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left ##slackware. [11:40] I never compiled php, you know more I'm sure [11:40] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521ad1.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [11:41] I tell him what I would do [11:41] hiptobecubic: well, the syntax is quite different but that doesn't mean it's bad, actually it happens to be very easy to read (we've even found it's easier to write ocaml than pseudo-code!) and I can't read python as far as I'm concerned ;-) [11:41] probably for something related to imap [11:42] slackytude|evil: of course! ;-) [11:42] Camarade_Tux, 'we' ? [11:42] argggg, too hard :) [11:42] the ocaml dev team? [11:42] hiptobecubic: friends and I [11:42] hiptobecubic, ha [11:42] IRL ones btw [11:42] hiptobecubic: tsss tsss :) [11:43] walmartshopper (n=walmarts@cpe-67-49-213-45.bak.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:43] someone has upgraded to kde 4.3.2 with vbatts packages? [11:43] Camarade_Tux and I had a little contest of our own a while back [11:43] leptom, yes, someone has [11:43] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.24.105) left irc: "going offline" [11:43] I did it this morning and lost all the widgets [11:43] in regards to python vs ocalm [11:43] leptom: I gave them a quick test run the other day. [11:43] slackytude|evil: ocaml was faster :P [11:44] leptom, grey / whote background? [11:44] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [11:44] I had to return to the previous version [11:44] slackytude|evil: yes [11:44] Camarade_Tux, after you spent some days tweaking the command line vodoo of the compiler, it was indeed faster [11:44] Ahh zee BWSON! [11:44] (aka Big white screen of nowt/nothing) [11:45] leptom, are you on -current? [11:45] camarade_tux leptom : need i all these file ? [11:45] slackytude|evil: btw, my current ocaml projects succesfully generates > 2000 lines of C + ocaml for webkit + dbus-glib bindings [11:45] more to come :P [11:45] manic! [11:45] usually when people forget to realise that KDE 4.3.2 is for -current and not for 13.0 [11:45] vbatts, you around ? [11:45] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-228.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [11:45] slackytude|evil: hahaha, was just a matter of *one* setting ;-) [11:45] slackytude|evil: nopes, 13 (I read the bold advise about current) [11:45] i understand that is the php source and the php.slackbuild the file use to compile the slack package in my distib ? [11:45] leptom, there you are then [11:45] then it's [11:45] :) [11:45] thanks [11:45] slackytude|evil: the one that meant "even if I'm set to use more memory, I still use far less memory than python" =) [11:46] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:46] plop: the slackbuild generates a slackware package [11:46] Camarade_Tux, talk all you want but we both now how shocked you were when python came out the fastest in the first run [11:46] you'll want the slack-desc and doinst.sh too [11:46] BP{k}: yep, I updated and read about current while the download. But I'm a little bit pigheaded [11:46] okay, i will try this evening [11:46] slackytude|evil: s/shocked/surprised/ and I'll agree ;-) [11:47] shock and awe! [11:47] thanks for the help camarade_tux, leptom too :) [11:47] slackytude|evil: I had actually taken one of the worst benchmarks for ocaml :P [11:47] see ya :D [11:47] Camarade_Tux, ha! [11:47] bye plop [11:47] plop (i=51fcb5a2@gateway/web/freenode/x-ubhicvnvtatullyc) left irc: "Page closed" [11:48] Camarade_Tux, and dont tell me yours was easier to read [11:49] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [11:50] I remember distinctly how your knees weakend when you saw the clean elegance of the python code [11:50] Reav_1 (n=Reav_1@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [11:51] bye people [11:51] Nick change: leptom -> Lep_Away [11:51] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:51] Lep_Away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [11:51] Leptom (i=1000@84.125.164.86.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [11:51] bad idea change the nick to lep_away [11:51] :D [11:51] aye [11:52] Action: BP{k} pats slackboy .. "good boy" [11:53] Ive seen worse rules [11:53] like the 'no lol' rule [11:53] jeje [11:54] ViN86 (n=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-ONE-FIFTY-THREE.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [11:54] lol :) [11:54] Action: Camarade_Tux gives slackytude|evil a candy [11:55] argh, tab-fail, it goes to slackboy :D [11:55] well, bye again (I hope no break another rule with two "bye") [11:55] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [11:56] Greetings everyone. :) [11:56] yo fire|bird, how's it going? [11:56] fire|bird; HAI [11:56] y0 Camarade_Tux, going great, thanks. you? [11:56] hey ViN86 [11:56] can someone help me configure vsftpd [11:56] greetings from the great state of assachusetts [11:56] fire|bird: fine, thanks :) [11:57] Action: Camarade_Tux progressed a bit more in his dbus play [11:57] a few functions I needed weren't available in ocaml, it's mostly done now :) [11:57] ViN86: hey :) [11:57] epple: sorry, not using it =/ [11:58] slackytude|evil: I'm sure I'll have you try some ocaml before a few weeks ;-) [11:58] im trying to find out if you can install caos NSA from a usb stick, the caos channel is dead lol [11:58] that's probably why i prefer slack, much better support here... [11:59] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [11:59] ViN86: what is caos? [11:59] Camarade_Tux: rpm install based linux that has easy clustering features [11:59] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:59] ah, another distribution :D [11:59] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:00] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:00] I love how the screenshot on wikipedia insists on the eye-candy for a server/cluster distribution :D http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/98/CAos_Linux_Gnome.png [12:00] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [12:00] y0 fire|bird [12:01] what you up to? [12:01] ViN86: you need to find someone who has tried, it's certainly miles away from what slackware does [12:01] Camarade_Tux: twolf said he has dealt with it [12:02] eh, I recommended centos to a mate today [12:02] hoho` (n=hooh@190.167.149.200) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:02] y0 slackytude|evil, not up to much atm, you? [12:02] fire|bird, just back from my first day in uni [12:03] fire|bird, got some great stuff this year [12:04] like Advanced Programming Techniques [12:04] slackytude|evil: centos looks pretty good too [12:04] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [12:04] slackytude|evil: that's mean! [12:04] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [12:04] Camarade_Tux, he asked: "whats a good server linux..... *not* slackware? [12:05] Camarade_Tux, what else could Ive said [12:05] slackytude|evil: crux? :D [12:05] :P [12:05] eh, I think its a perfect match [12:05] i am having a problem with a b43 wireless adapter. i have the firmware installed, but it keeps loading the wrong driver [12:05] he usually uses opensuse [12:05] slackytude|evil: why does the centos clustering guide point to the red hat clustering guide? are they that close? [12:06] archiebenedict: which card? [12:06] ViN86: CentOS is a Free version of RedHat. [12:06] adamk_: ahh gotcha, thanks [12:06] bcm4306 rev 2 [12:06] ViN86: they are terribly close, centos is binary compatible with RH [12:06] its red hat's ugly twin brother [12:06] on all other distros it loads the b43 driver and works. in slackware it loads the b43legacy driver, and doesnt work [12:07] i rmmod and modprobed the right driver but it still doesnt work [12:07] archiebenedict: he, you're going to be surprised [12:07] firmware? what does dmesg say [12:07] slackware is right :D [12:07] Note: If your card is a BCM4306 Rev 2, or only has 802.11b capability, it uses b43legacy. All other models use b43. [12:07] http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 [12:08] oh thats interesting [12:08] these other laptops have rev 3's [12:08] hmmm [12:08] actually, there might be something, [12:09] joannis (n=joannis@net-80-253-189-213.beltav.hu) joined ##slackware. [12:10] Hermann (n=Hermannn@m90-137-86-174.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [12:10] what does 'lspci -n -d 14e4' return? [12:10] might not be needed: "bcm4306 (Rev. 2 uses b43legacy, Rev. 3 uses b43) " [12:11] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-21.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:11] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [12:11] doesnt return anything [12:11] Leptom (i=1000@84.125.164.86.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving. Bye, bye!" [12:11] Vronsky (n=jh@cpe-075-183-106-088.triad.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:12] yeah i didnt realize that all these laptops built at the same time have different parts [12:12] ok, I've probably given a bad command, but as I quoted: "bcm4306 (Rev. 2 uses b43legacy, Rev. 3 uses b43)", so it's expected [12:12] he ;p [12:12] that solves half of the problem [12:12] yeah i was reading that page on the first one i did and i assumed they all had rev 2's in them [12:13] I hate it when you buy identical stuff with completly different iternals [12:13] I had this one Ralink usb stick wich worked great, so when I had to buy several wlan sticks, I thought I just grab a bunch of those [12:14] but a good third of it had a newer chipset which werent supported very well [12:14] sux [12:14] yeah [12:15] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.22) joined ##slackware. [12:18] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:19] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-98-249-3-190.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:20] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:20] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:21] how to get rid of this: 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root [12:22] teddymills (n=teddy@208.92.235.227) joined ##slackware. [12:22] make ftp root non-writable for anonymous logins [12:22] epple, you have a permission problem [12:22] we are slackware 13 noobs...does we do a netinstall using disk 1? [12:23] AEnima15771 (n=clbarnob@h80ad273c.async.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:23] so ftp root shpuld not be writeable, what about subfolders? [12:23] we are slackware 13 noobs...can we do a netinstall using disk 1? [12:23] teddymills, that will give you a very basic system [12:23] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-fhjbmkfkyhvmkkmi) left irc: [12:23] if user cannot upload files i dont need ftp [12:23] thats all we want..just ssh [12:23] epple, that should work [12:23] anonymous is not a regular user [12:23] so fix your anonymous ftp root. and google for that error [12:24] epple, yeah, you could also use non-anonymous accounts [12:24] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:24] we booted disk1..and we are at the prompt....what should we do to start the netinstall ? [12:24] teddymills: read the documentation [12:25] i run 500 linux servers...i apologize slackware is one we do not use....its is a simple question, but if dont want to answer thats cool [12:26] teddymills: this may sound like a naive question, but why bother with slackware then? [12:26] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-21.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:26] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:26] sporten29sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [12:26] teddymills: So..there are step by step instructions in the documentation.. [12:26] clients are always right...<--no they are not [12:26] And by net, I hope you mean network..and not internet [12:26] teddymills, you have a readme file in the CD for all kinds of installation, usb, net, etc.. [12:26] (Unless Slackware has internet install now) [12:26] Hermann (n=Hermannn@m90-137-86-174.cust.tele2.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:27] teddymills: will you be maintaining this installation? why are you deploying it in the first place? [12:27] straterra, internet == big ass network, [12:27] straterra: it does actually support http/ftp installs, but really intended to use with local mirrors. [12:27] its not my root..i do not care... [12:27] slackware is not a good choice for mass deployment [12:27] then why are you installing it? [12:27] RHEL! [12:27] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [12:28] we push 5TB a week, a good number [12:28] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-21.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:28] push 5tb? [12:29] straterra, mostly porn. =P [12:29] that sounds like heavy lifting [12:29] probably :) [12:29] tb is a new unit of mass starterra ;P [12:29] straterra, damn i cant type [12:29] about porn... I've to delete chronology [12:29] network push ups [12:30] buckets of porn. we actually estabilished that unit here [12:30] teddymills, seriously, just look at cd root it will contain the documentation you need [12:30] do you push them uphill or along a flat surface? [12:30] ananke: are those metric or imperial buckets? [12:30] I have 40 libraries of congress of porn [12:30] i had it on the board for some time. we had a conversion table for buckets of porn, using different media [super8, vhs, dvd, divx files, magazines] [12:31] and slackware can be mass deployed [12:31] can != should [12:31] BP{k}: you know, we never estabilished that [12:31] ananke, that happened to the NSA too [12:31] err NASA [12:31] i hate how cheap hard drives are [12:32] it only makes the urge to save porn greater [12:32] Hmm.. [12:32] Does the kind of porn effect how much fills a bucket? [12:32] Like..less fat girl porn? [12:32] teddymills: the issue here is that slackware's learning curve is fairly steep and managing it can be time consuming. that's why i wonder why you're even installing it in the first place, when you're responsible for a large number of other servers. if this is a one-off server, you ought to consider using whatever you currently deploy [12:32] straterra: beastiality fills the bucket with a single 800x600 image [12:33] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:33] firedix (n=firedix@host195.201-252-177.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [12:33] lame low res :/ [12:33] lol [12:34] my group just got a gravity convection oven... [12:34] i have no idea what it is... [12:34] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:34] slams your food around until it cooks [12:34] Action: ananke is wiping his last centos box and installing sles on it. gotta love installers with vnc support [12:34] maybe porn stars can start shilling the hard drives? Christie Canyon recommends WD for all your porn storage! [12:35] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [12:35] straterra: cooking through kinetic principles? ;) [12:35] Action: theblackbox sees a whole new market opening up for "finger" drives [12:35] indeed [12:35] ananke: i am just going to install centos, that's not promising [12:35] ananke: any reason to ditch centos, besides the political bs atm? [12:35] straterra: apparently it generates really uniform temperature fields [12:36] straterra: standarization. [12:36] Gotcha [12:36] teddymills: I can see it now. 'Try the new 1TB 2girls1hdd from Western Digital!' [12:36] Alan_Hicks: howdy :D [12:37] gar0t0: Howdy! [12:37] Alan_Hicks: :) are you ok ? [12:37] Alan_Hicks, hahah oh how I hate memory [12:37] I liked 2girls1cup [12:37] gar0t0: I'm great. [12:37] this actually was a head node for a rocks cluster, so it was rocks not centos [which is based on centos]. since i'm killing this cluster, the head node is going somewhere else [12:37] ananke, we can manage almost every other distro with np, just we do not have any/many slackware clients.. [12:37] straterra, .... [12:38] teddymills: which is exactly my point, why deploy slackware then? why deploy anything other than what you currently manage? [12:38] as i said before, clients are always right...they want a black motel T, thats what they get [12:38] Alan_Hicks: id buy it -_- [12:38] model T [12:38] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-98-249-3-190.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Success [12:39] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:39] teddymills: that seems like a failed approach. seems like the return on investment won't be there [12:39] damn this cp is slow :/ [12:39] Nick change: nannes -> ytco92-da-mac [12:40] fire|bird, hey [12:40] we have 500 servers...we do not have time to manage each one...the industry average is admin per 100 servers.. [12:40] teddymills: which is exactly what i'm talking about [12:40] the industry average is 1 admin per 100 servers.. [12:41] why roll out something that would make your job harder? [12:41] i manage 100 of those servers...the other 400 i do not have root, i do not care what happens other than if they have power and internet....no my problem.... [12:41] alisonken1home: was that /etc/my.cnf comment meant for me? [12:41] ok ...hm [12:42] Nick change: ytco92-da-mac -> nannes [12:42] i have an existing debian install which would like to replace with slackware [12:42] teddymills: so are we to assume that whoever rolls those servers out, doesn't manage them? [12:42] the disk is partitioned with GPT (EFI) [12:43] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [12:43] basically slackware-13.0 dvd hasn't got the GPT in the kernel .. [12:44] i'm just thinkig how could i load the kernel from grub [12:44] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [12:44] and the question is what command line boot options needed to run the slackware install CD [12:45] yes.it happens all the time in datacenters...what you think datacenter admins have time to individually manage each of the 1000's of servers in their DCs? [12:45] night1ne (n=n_ght1ne@174.9.134.244) joined ##slackware. [12:46] Morning [12:46] afternoon [12:46] teddymills: which only makes it sound even more unbelievable, that one sysadmin would be installing something that another one won't support [12:46] teddymills, i figured that if a system wasn't causing problems(customer wasn't complaining), you guys would ignore the system altogether [12:46] Does anyone know how to get slackware, or a derivative onto a USB stick [12:47] Afternoon :D [12:47] night1ne, unetbootin [12:47] teddymills: simply put, your story doesn't add up :) [12:47] i am not here to explain how DC's work..read the documentation [12:47] teddymills: you're not the only one who manages data centers [12:47] Is there a certain distro that I need to get? [12:47] night1ne, any distro that has an iso [12:48] archiebl3h (n=archiebl@68.102.118.52) left irc: "Leaving" [12:48] Can I use usb startup disc creator that ubuntu has, or does it need to be unetbootin? [12:48] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [12:48] night1ne, needs to be unetbootin, and you need the dvd iso for slack [12:49] Okay. How big does the usb stick need to be? [12:49] night1ne, i suggest 4gb [12:49] Okay then. Thanks much. Any other advice for me before I go about tearing up my system? [12:50] epple (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:50] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-353-1-51-254.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:50] yeah, separate partition for your /home so that you don't lose your data [12:50] Oh, I already have that set up/. [12:51] I mean with slackware itself. I've only ever used Ubuntu. [12:51] night1ne, linuxquestions.org has a LOT of info [12:51] Okay. Thanks much room :) [12:52] ViN86 (n=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-ONE-FIFTY-THREE.MIT.EDU) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:52] Reav_1 (n=Reav_1@212.88.117.162) left irc: "~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~" [12:53] night1ne (n=n_ght1ne@174.9.134.244) left ##slackware. [12:53] ViN86 (n=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-ONE-FIFTY-THREE.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [12:53] PrettyGirl^ (i=cdsc@41.236.13.177) joined ##slackware. [12:55] can vegans eat eggs? [12:56] no [12:56] ananke, your sure understand..we install server..client has root. client uses server. end of story. [12:56] can vegitarians eat eggs? [12:56] yes [12:56] ananke, not you sure understand..we install server..client has root. client uses server. end of story. <-- i have not typed for a week) [12:56] spook: The more important question is, can vagitarians eat eggs? [12:56] admn! [12:56] damn! :) [12:57] There are degrees of vegetarianism. Some will eat eggs, some will not, even if they aren't completely vegan. [12:57] Alan_Hicks: hahaha [12:57] Why can vegetarians eat fish? [12:57] I don't get that [12:57] Fish is still an animal [12:57] straterra: Because they are hypocrits. [12:57] Alan_Hicks, that brings up such a disgusting image [12:57] Not all vegetarians eat fish. [12:57] A lot do [12:58] vegetarianism is retarded. [12:58] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:58] If man was meant to eat only vegetables, we wouldn't have canine teeth. [12:58] straterra, Maybe they just don't like the taste of pork, beef, chicken, etc. but like the taste of fish. [12:58] Alan_Hicks, agreed...if hashem didn't want us to eat meat, he wouldn't have made it so tasty [12:58] teddymills: then you were not telling us the entire story, you were claiming you (sysadmins) manage it [12:58] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:58] The fact that we have canine teeth is a mandate by (God, natural selection, whatever you believe in) to eat meat. [12:58] There are are a lot of different reasons people have choose to eat what they do. [12:58] ruben23 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) joined ##slackware. [12:59] adamk_: so? Then dont eat those meats..dont call yourself a vegetarian [12:59] I have yet to meet someone who ate fish but called themselves vegetarian. [12:59] I don't like mushrooms..I'm not a pure carnivore [12:59] managed servers=we manage it....unmanaged servers means clients manage their own servers....we have a mix here...depending on the client [12:59] Sounds like the people you spoke to were idiots. [12:59] yasu (n=adminroo@211.128.163.20) joined ##slackware. [12:59] adamk_: I've known vegetarians that ate fish. [12:59] Most vegetarians I've talked to eat fish [13:00] ViN86 (n=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-ONE-FIFTY-THREE.MIT.EDU) left irc: "Leaving" [13:01] POint out to them that the definition of vegetarian is "a person who does not eat or does not believe in meating meat, fish, fowl, or in some cases, any food derived from animals, as eggs or cheese, but subsists on vegetables, fruits, nuts, grain, etc." [13:01] I've known fish that eat vegetarians, does that count? [13:01] Those folks that eat fish are, by definition, not vegetarians, no matter what they call themselves. [13:01] BP{k}, that's coolness [13:01] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:01] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [13:02] you can tell a vegetarian by the green fog that follows them everywhere they go [13:02] dead animals give nutrients to the plants..so..better not eat plants either [13:02] thats level 5 vegan [13:02] not eating anything that casts a shadow [13:02] spook: hahaha [13:03] setting aside beliefs, meat just tastes so damn good [13:03] Good Simpsons reference. [13:03] meat is amazing [13:03] ananke: damn straight. [13:03] ananke, i said that just like, 5 mins ago [13:03] straterra, we mean dead animal meat :\ [13:03] if anything, that's why i'm not a vegeterian. meat tastes too good to not be eaten [13:03] Oh [13:03] thrice`: You have to specify that [13:03] ;) [13:03] Besides, meat is meat, and we are meat. It's a heap easier to turn cow meat into people than it is to turn beans into people. [13:03] i've had a few females that couldnt get enough meat. [13:03] [ in bed ] [13:04] yasu (n=adminroo@211.128.163.20) left irc: Client Quit [13:04] spook: Probably because you didn't have enough meat to satisfy them. [13:04] BURN [13:04] err, MEAT BURN [13:04] Alan_Hicks: oh come on. you know thats not true. [13:04] spook: Hey, all I know is what straterra tells me. [13:04] Alan_Hicks: maybe ask your mum/sister/wife/SO [13:05] Alan_Hicks: it puts the lotion on its skin.. [13:05] it puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again [13:05] spook: Damn was that the best lame comeback you could muster? You're Mama must be so ashamed of you. [13:05] Alan_Hicks: i dont need to compensate :) [13:06] If you have a microscope bedside..you're DIW [13:06] mesa_booger (n=mesa_boo@unaffiliated/mesa-booger/x-2567591) joined ##slackware. [13:07] did you. get. that thing. i sent you? [13:07] Did you, stop. Get, stop. That think, stop. i send you, stop. [13:07] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-214-024.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:07] Here we have spook in his natural habitat. Do you see how he performs the mating dance of his kind, the William Shatner fanboys? [13:08] firing..photon..torpedo..OH GOD [13:08] that was hippo from harvey birdman [13:09] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:11] vastina (i=jaird@64.215.163.99) joined ##slackware. [13:12] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [13:14] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [13:14] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-21.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:14] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:15] hmm i read somewhere that k3b doesnt work with cdrtools anymore. it needs cdrkit. anyone know anything about it? [13:15] the svn version of it, obviously. [13:17] night1ne (n=n_ght1ne@174.9.134.244) joined ##slackware. [13:17] Which one of these http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0-iso/ do I d/l? [13:17] night1ne: the first three if you dont need the sources. but dvd is always recommended [13:18] I wouldn't know what to do with the sources.. [13:19] Maybe this one slackware-13.0-install-dvd.iso.md5 [13:19] ..... [13:19] ..nm, I see it. [13:19] Thanks again :) [13:19] night1ne (n=n_ght1ne@174.9.134.244) left ##slackware. [13:22] sporten29sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:23] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [13:23] perlsyntax (n=perlsynt@76.229.173.251) joined ##slackware. [13:23] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-21.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:23] is there a gui in slackware 13.0? [13:24] of course [13:24] no just black and green console [13:24] there is a gui wow. [13:24] if i hear it right. [13:24] uh... [13:24] wow? [13:24] Slackware has had X for..a long time [13:24] perlsyntax: troll fail. [13:25] i try to be funny [13:25] what new in slackware 13? [13:25] perlsyntax: you fail at failing. [13:25] check the changelog [13:25] perlsyntax: slackware.com [13:25] read the annouce [13:25] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.14.16) joined ##slackware. [13:25] what is the slackware install thing? [13:26] perlsyntax: http://www.slackbook.org/ [13:26] i think i download the dvd [13:26] hi all. i would like to set my monitor refresh rate to 75Hz. Xfce can't do that permanently. Is there any option i can add to Xorg.Conf thx [13:27] OclkdMan: monitor section [13:27] hmmm, anyone use octave? [13:27] perlsyntax (n=perlsynt@76.229.173.251) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:28] OclkdMan, You can set a PreferredMode option in the monitor section if your xorg.conf. [13:28] OclkdMan, Something like 'Option "PreferredMode" "1280x1024@75" ' should work (obviously use whatever resolution you want that is supported. [13:28] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-21.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:29] adamk, ! thx a lot. it is very simple to do. i'll try immediately [13:29] damn lausd for having crappy ftp settings for the firewall [13:29] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.14.16) left irc: "Leaving" [13:30] to get anything off ftp, i have to wget them on my home server and then wget them to my computer here [13:31] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-21.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:35] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.47.149) joined ##slackware. [13:37] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:38] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.14.16) joined ##slackware. [13:38] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:42] Gulug (n=old-time@189.56.21.197) left irc: Connection reset by peer [13:44] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [13:44] straterra: because fish tastes good [13:45] but..its an animal [13:45] lol [13:45] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [13:45] and it has an instinct.. [13:45] straterra: well.. ok, there are degrees of vegetarianism [13:46] for some reason some think that killing a fish is OK while killing a cow isn't [13:46] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.62.148) joined ##slackware. [13:46] And they are dumbasses [13:46] and that would be wrong... killing a breathing animal would be against vegetarianism :P [13:47] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.14.16) left irc: "Leaving" [13:47] steiger: what does the bible say? hm? [13:47] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-76-179-231-3.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:47] pupiteee: fuck, i don't know. didn't jesus eat fish? [13:47] jup [13:47] and rode donkeys [13:47] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:48] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:48] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:48] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [13:48] steiger, no he didnt [13:49] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-21.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:49] he ate steel screws and drank motor oil [13:49] dartmouth: well, he liked fishing, didn't he [13:49] or at least liked people ho liked fishing [13:49] plop (i=58b17409@gateway/web/freenode/x-enaijadvbhjwexis) joined ##slackware. [13:49] no not really [13:49] re all :) [13:49] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-176-216.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:49] dartmouth: dont spin the wheel please... [13:50] Action: dartmouth spindles the wheel [13:50] oh, i don't care. I eat meat because meat tastes good [13:50] it has already spinning fast enough/... [13:50] i eat meat because it used to be something cute [13:50] re Camarade_Tux [13:50] lol [13:50] lol [13:51] dartmouth: u wackoo... [13:51] hahahahaha [13:51] you laugh [13:51] but cute things taste good [13:52] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [13:52] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:52] fishs have no cuteness at all and taste awesome [13:52] if you doctor them up [13:52] you know what else fish tastes like? [13:52] vaginas [13:53] MrJackson (n=MrJackso@173.86.54.47) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:53] only if you're dealing with sloppy seconds [13:53] steiger, thats not appropriate for this channel; children read this channel. [13:53] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC30112.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [13:53] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.14.16) joined ##slackware. [13:54] dartmouth: do they? [13:54] that's an interesting point.. the age average of slack users [13:55] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:55] Off topic, but has anyone in the US shopped from here: http://www.portagadgets.com ? Google search of reviews shows mixed results. [13:56] lol [13:56] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [13:56] hi all. i'm back. i've done these changes to my xorg.conf to set refresh rates. http://pastebin.com/d520cfdf2 [13:56] if it has a lot of mixed reviews, i wouldn't even bother [13:56] cool [13:56] but when i start xfce and i check the frequency from my monitor it is back to 60hz [13:56] ananke, I agree. Better to just newegg it [13:57] mixed reviews mean they can be shitty, and if they can be shitty i wouldn't buy from them [13:57] reapergr (n=reapergr@ppp-94-64-143-149.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:57] hi [13:58] arno (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Connection timed out [13:58] also my .config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/displays.xml is like that http://pastebin.com/d5529746f [13:58] i foynd the way to use slackbuild but i have a proble [13:59] problem [13:59] found [13:59] does anyone can help me ? i have to recompile php with xmlrpc and i have this error for the make command -> http://pastie.org/654871 [13:59] sorry [13:59] aigon (n=rm@92.84.8.2) joined ##slackware. [13:59] wen i use ./chemtool.SlackBuild [14:00] extract all files to /tmp/SBo/ [14:01] ok, a little less play-by-play :) just get to the problem [14:01] and did't create tgz pkg [14:03] >.> [14:03] did you get any errors? [14:04] Action: Necos watches octave compile [14:05] damn, loads of compiler warnings... [14:05] what programming language is good for zoomable user interface? [14:06] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-51-105.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:07] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-82-189.ip101.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [14:07] brainz! [14:10] Vronsky (n=jh@cpe-075-183-106-088.triad.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:11] hello, [14:11] fredoslack: salut :) [14:11] what's the good form svp beetween: [14:11] heya fredoslack [14:11] yeep deco Necos =) [14:12] y0 people [14:12] y0 fredoslack [14:12] the company terminates ou the terminates company? [14:12] yep, slackboy [14:12] damn slackytude|evil... who let him in? [14:12] sigh [14:12] slackytude|evil * oupps [14:12] hehehehe [14:12] y0 Necos [14:12] lol [14:12] deco, do you know, toi ? [14:12] Necos, I escaped! [14:12] fredoslack: no :( [14:12] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [14:12] "lentreprise qui licencie" [14:12] en english [14:12] in * [14:13] must capture slackytude|evil [14:13] fredoslack: licensing company ? [14:13] nevar! [14:13] hi. irssi is not working with slackware-current. pat needs to rebuild perl5 afaik. have any of you managed to fix this? [14:13] Action: slackytude|evil flees [14:13] deco, i don't know, it's someione who ask me this question [14:13] someone* [14:13] on a french server [14:13] oh [14:13] heya Necos [14:14] josteint: I believe that is a known issue. Although I am not aware of a fix at this time. (which doesn't mean there isn't one) [14:14] howdy BP{k} [14:14] heya fire|bird [14:14] fire|bird: howdy :) [14:14] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:14] slackytude|evil: opera 10.10 b1 out today. :) [14:14] josteint, irssi not working in slackware -current? I dare say this is a known issue ^-^ [14:14] this is the error i get when i start irssi with slackware-current: http://pastebin.com/d14ff9e6a [14:14] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:15] josteint, downgrading to the perl of slack 13 will work [14:15] fire|bird, whats up with them lately? cant remeber opera being so fast with releases [14:15] thrice`: ok. thanks. i am gonna do that [14:16] but, you can downgrade perl, recompile irssi (and the other conflicting crap), or just wait [14:16] slackytude|evil: I think it's mainly to get Opera Unite out now that it's had some major testing by users, etc. [14:16] oh first years, how you amuse and ANGER ME!~ [14:16] fire|bird, and is it? [14:16] slackytude|evil: In this release, yes. [14:16] spook, ? [14:16] so, 10.10 will have Unite included. [14:17] fire|bird, oh [14:17] slackytude|evil: its a semi futurama quote [14:17] this concept of WUV confuses and ANGERS US! [14:17] fire|bird, the question is, does anyone care? Its been out sometime but it didnt change the game for opera. looks to be an ignored feature [14:18] /j #slax [14:18] slackytude|evil: yeah, who knows, I guess it'll be a wait and see what happens. [14:18] hm .. [14:18] spook, first years as in first year students [14:18] slackytude|evil: yes. [14:18] spook, ah, they are fun [14:18] we like to scare them [14:18] i treat them like dirt. [14:19] ok ..so i need a cutom kernell ..hm [14:19] bah [14:19] get me a fresh beer! [14:19] NOW GO GO GO BEER! [14:19] a custom install DVD .. [14:19] does anyone can help me ? i have to recompile php with xmlrpc and i have this error for the make command -> http://pastie.org/654871 [14:20] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:20] you got what lecture? by Prof Stevensons? are you insane? only %2 passed his tests last two semesters [14:20] then watch them cry [14:20] plop: did you use the slackbuild? [14:20] muhaha [14:20] brb [14:21] great! i can confirm installing perl 5.10.0 from slackware13 works with irssi. perl 5.10.1 from current does not work [14:21] the easiest way is to downgrade [14:21] ye gods! [14:21] all of #slackware will be empty [14:21] no i just type make distclean and ./reconfigure after [14:21] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [14:21] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "Leaving" [14:21] Nick change: josteint_ -> josteint [14:21] only five guys left with xchat [14:22] i've got xchat, too [14:22] slackytude|evil: i just switched to irssi [14:22] i like this software [14:22] make command run during 2 minute and an error occures [14:23] Blaguvest (n=Blaguves@213.67.122.68) left irc: "Leaving" [14:23] slackytude|evil, unfortunaly, there is not the small smileys [14:23] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.14.16) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:23] on Linux [14:23] before the make command crash frome the beginning [14:23] :( [14:23] fredoslack, ah, collecting smileys again? [14:24] slackytude|evil, less than a time [14:24] (moins) [14:24] BP{k}: one of my friend tel me that an libX or X something is missing.. [14:25] mikl0 (n=mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:26] slackytude|evil, to expand my collection, [14:26] i must create them :p [14:26] i have creed three [14:26] smileys [14:26] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] fredoslack, junkie :P [14:27] plop: quite possible. Can I ask why you don't use the slackbuild as was suggested earlier today? [14:27] junkie ? i don't understand [14:27] fredoslack, do you collect stamps as well? [14:27] slackytude|evil, no [14:27] fredoslack, tried to joke by implying a obsession about smileys..... [14:27] no stamps [14:28] okkk slackytude|evil [14:28] i understand now =) [14:28] ^-^ [14:28] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [14:29] ciao deco [14:29] metrofox: ciao :) [14:29] hi slackytude|evil(why evil?) [14:29] hi fire|bird [14:29] hi metrofox [14:29] y0 metrofox [14:30] what's going on guys? =) [14:30] why evil? why not? [14:30] He's evil because he strung deco from the ceiling by his big toe. [14:30] no, it's because his fused with eviljames [14:30] that's a good reason to be evil :P [14:30] he's* [14:30] deco, O_o [14:31] why you always come up with freak stuff like that [14:31] slackytude|evil: dunno that's how i am [14:31] Action: slackytude|evil doesnt want to be fused with eviljames [14:31] mmm... Which of two voices should I hear? The fire|bird's or the deco's? [14:31] MINE!!! [14:31] deco's :P [14:31] In reality.. mine. [14:31] They are just my minions. [14:32] well... I'll hear mine.. [14:32] listen to the reverend [14:32] All our opinions are belong to Dominian [14:32] praise Dominian our lord \o/ [14:32] hah [14:32] Action: Alan_Hicks smites down Dominian for trying to become like him. [14:32] The streets will flow with the blood of the non-believers! [14:33] mikl0 (n=mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:33] deco: You should be a leader, not a follower. [14:33] uh oh [14:33] BP{k}: because, recompile source is new for me, i use slackware (and linux) since 2 years. If i make a mistake, i have some difficulty to repair them :) [14:33] plop: backups [14:33] If you don't do backups; you should be shot. ;) [14:33] fire|bird: follower then a leader ;-)... [14:33] I should be a leader... [14:33] Dominian, Danger certainly didnt need any stinkin backups [14:33] heh [14:34] speaking of.. [14:34] Action: Dominian runs his backups [14:34] heh [14:34] Action: Alan_Hicks simply remembers the binary form of any file he might be in danger of loosing. [14:34] I installed my software translation [14:34] hehehe [14:34] Alan_Hicks, neat trick [14:34] slackytude|evil: I actually have automatic bacula backups run every night for all my stuff.. but I do manual backups from time to time on my two major VPS hosts to make sure. [14:34] I've nothing to backup right now... Porn will be deleted soon... [14:34] slackytude|evil: They're just numbers after all. [14:35] Dominian: lol i use slackware for a little router at home, i try to install some program sometimes such as torrentflux and urd, freenet, openvpn [14:35] Dominian, eh, got rsync scripts at work. but bacula looks nice [14:35] su -c rm -rf /home/metrofox/.secret_folder [14:35] :P [14:35] slackytude|evil: I use rsync fo rthe manual push ;) [14:35] whoops: su -c "rm -rf /home/metrofox/.secret_folder" forgot the quotes. [14:36] Dominian: and recently i change the computer, and i try to réinstall the system [14:36] Just the other day, I did a transform of pi to so many decimal places, raised it to a multiple of e to so many decimal places, multiplied by 10 enough times to eliminate the decimals, and converted to binary. [14:36] theblackslab (n=theblack@94-193-146-147.zone7.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:36] man, he hangs out with us for a few days and his making jokes about his porn collection [14:36] Alan_Hicks, you're gonna tell us the results... [14:36] Dominian: there is no backup but / partition is on a soft raid1 :) [14:36] Then I simply burned it to a DVD. Turned out to be a perfect port of Slackware 13.0 to the Alpha. [14:36] c'mon! [14:36] plop: that's better than nothing [14:36] ##slackware, destroyer of youth, I curse thee [14:36] sure [14:37] Dominian: and a raid0 for the grabbing (to transfert on my pc over gigabit :) ) [14:37] Alan_Hicks, lol [14:37] plop: its better than some I see "zomg.. I just lost 10years of files!!!!!!!!?!?!?!!?!?!?" "did you have any backups?" "Why would I have backups?" [14:37] *smack* [14:37] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.230) left irc: "Leaving." [14:37] yeah, like microsoft [14:37] lol [14:38] deco, j'ai installé mon traducteur, à moi l'english [14:38] lol [14:38] Dominian: i have my another router and it works fine [14:38] fredoslack: lol \o/ [14:38] I tried generating Windows 7 isos that way, but it requires an insane number of arithmetic operations on irrational numbers. [14:38] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.230) joined ##slackware. [14:39] Alan_Hicks: not to mention you have to perform "the ritual" [14:39] that doesnt change anything about my problem !!!! why linux is so complicated ?? :P [14:39] Alan_Hicks, there's a trick... All that is windows is irrational, is useless [14:39] plop, linux is not guilty! [14:39] *and useless [14:40] plop: Linux isn't complicated any more than any other OS (well, DOS is simpler). [14:40] Alan_Hicks, you tried stuffing it into the GPU? wanted to try something like that myself [14:40] Linux isn't complicated. You get out of it, what you put into it. ;) [14:40] fire|bird, wow! [14:40] that must be written somewhere... :P [14:40] well, lest go pall :) http://pastie.org/654871 [14:41] plop, linux is simple, but the tasks you do are made of many simple tasks put together. all you need to do is learn that you can do much more with a shell. (a processor can just make add operations) [14:41] s/pall/pal/ :P [14:41] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.210.251) joined ##slackware. [14:42] s/lest/let's =S [14:42] haha [14:42] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:42] Action: theblackslab puts on the Grammar Gustapo Boots [14:42] uh... Now I understand what he's written a few secs ago :P [14:42] gnrp (n=julian@belug-julian.in-berlin.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:43] i discover linux with slackware without X server, so yes i learn all day [14:43] plop, though [14:43] try ubuntu [14:43] I discovered linux with ubuntu... My epic fail! [14:43] LOL .P [14:43] *:P [14:43] lol [14:44] Is there anyway I can do updates as root using CLI? [14:44] metrofox: kubuntu for me :P and then sabayon for a long time [14:44] s/metrofox/metro-tard =P [14:44] ubuntu is a great distribution. but i think that for me slackware is best. old distro talk is old [14:44] kleanchap: that's the way they're supposed to be done, so yes [14:44] kleanchap, are you kidding? [14:44] i hope he is [14:44] kleanchap, slackpkg? [14:44] slackytude|evil: I would certainly hope so. [14:44] theblackslab meant: s/metrofox/metro-tard/ [14:44] ;) [14:44] how would you do an update as user in X? [14:45] Action: theblackslab hands over the boots =( [14:45] thank you! [14:46] kleanchap: start here and read before asking questions: http://www.slackbook.org [14:46] i prefered learn on a good distribution without dependencies management, too hard in the beginning but today i can make nice stuff :) [14:46] Action: fire|bird hands theblackslab a pair of Grammar Gustapo gloves. ;) [14:46] Karu (n=alch@78-28-90-32.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [14:46] me mate asked me to install slackware on his machine [14:47] or help set it up, rather [14:47] hm .. [14:47] slackytude|evil: did he like it ? [14:47] slackytude|evil, and you did it! [14:47] i think i'm gonna modiffy the mini-cd image .. [14:47] didnt do it yet. sometime next week [14:47] but i can't recompile php aarrrghhhh !!! [14:47] .... [14:47] :P [14:47] slackytude|evil, well... [14:47] plop, why not? [14:47] what's the easy way to modify a slack ISO image ? [14:47] guax: [14:47] plop, you can do it... c'mon, you're strong! [14:48] you can really do it! [14:48] he is the guy who had no clue about linux. then he was hired as java developer and sat infront of a ten year old SGI Unix machine [14:48] java? [14:48] guax: hi -> http://pastie.org/654871 [14:48] i started with mandrake, then moved to debian and then to slackware, and i don't regret that a single bit; it's much easier to learn the basics from a working system than having trouble to set it up [14:48] :) [14:48] he said java? [14:48] yes [14:48] :O [14:48] metrofox: lol thanks [14:48] rg3: same here [14:48] rg3: a working system? [14:48] o_O [14:48] rg3, agreed .... from debian to slack and never looked back [14:48] lol [14:48] i stick to gentoo/slackware as my best distro choises [14:48] ;) [14:48] he had no clue about unix and was constantly asking questions, how to do shell scripts [14:49] woody indeed [14:49] plop, solidarity :P [14:49] and today he told me he actually prefers the CLI now and wants linux on his xp machine [14:49] plop, you are compiling manualy or using slackware's slackbuild? [14:49] metrofox: i see that [14:49] slackytude|evil, you handed him many books :P [14:49] guax: manually [14:49] metrofox, heh, yeah,actually [14:49] guax: manually frome php source [14:49] perlsyntax (n=perlsynt@adsl-76-229-173-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] guax: with-xmlrpc :) [14:50] spider1010: you can laugh everything you want, but the truth is that back in the 2.4 days, the effort mandrake took to ease setting up the system and detecting the hardware for you was the difference between struggling to install something you knew nothing about, and have it working after 1 hour [14:50] my mate told me to install linux on their own PCs... I always told them no! They wanted ubuntu(sorry...) on their machines, I refused! [14:50] plop use the slackbuild but edit the php.SlackBuild script to include the compile time options you need.... I would anyway [14:50] *mates [14:51] metrofox, heh [14:51] yes i think, i will try that, BP{k} tell me that too [14:51] rg3, the same.... I kinda liked apt-get but on a p90 with half-penny hardware it was never an easy ride [14:51] metrofox, you could try sayabon or linux mint. they look newbie friendly without too much added crap [14:51] but no because I'm cruel, because if they want to use linux decently they should install it by themselves... [14:51] oh ..what actually TXZ is? [14:51] or when they'll face issues they will be back on Windows, and it will never work [14:51] LZMA? [14:52] errordeveloper, xz [14:52] plop: we've been telling you that since this afternoon. [14:52] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-66-190.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:52] hehe, BP{k} =P [14:52] slackytude|evil, whatever distro I proposed they wanted it installed on their own machines [14:52] its lunch time for me, see ya everybody ant thank you for all [14:52] see ya Platyna [14:52] plop [14:52] my failed tab is back! [14:52] rg3: damn lot of writing. i was just fucking with you. i started with redhat->fedora->ubuntu->debian->slackware [14:53] yes BP{k} but, each thing in its time, sorry for my slow :) [14:53] and im french, i have a poor english :/ [14:54] plop, don't worry... you're not alone :P [14:54] I setup linux for quite a number of people over they years. been paid to do that as well, sometimes. my mothers slackware is working fine for a year now [14:54] metrofox: Yes he is, on a boat in the middle of the ocean, with no land in sight. :P [14:54] that reassure me :) bybye all ;) [14:54] metrofox: ok, i just found xz-utils ;) [14:54] metrofox, why not help people setup linux? can be fun too [14:55] spider1010: :P [14:55] slackytude|evil, I'll do it during linux day [14:55] heh [14:55] rg3: lol [14:55] heh, I had about the same path as spider1010, only switch Fedora and Ubuntu around. [14:56] eh? my path was like this -> slackware [14:56] slackytude|evil, it's useful when people really want it! If I've to spend my time with people who have not interest enough I won't =) [14:56] slackytude|evil: lies [14:56] slackytude|evil, I do it for free... [14:56] deco, not really, slack was the first. I tried others of course but always came back [14:57] slackytude|evil: ok :P [14:57] metrofox, thats reasonable [14:57] 10 USE=SLACKWARE, 20 USE=RANDOM, GOTO 10 [14:57] is it a legend? [14:58] why do I feel to use pseudo basic these days [14:59] PrettyGirl^ (i=cdsc@41.236.13.177) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:00] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:00] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [15:00] reapergr (n=reapergr@ppp-94-64-143-149.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [15:02] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-66-190.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:03] slackytude|evil: because it'd be better than python? :D [15:04] Camarade_Tux, your ocalm must have scared me more than I thought. possibly some post-trauma effect [15:04] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.134.96) joined ##slackware. [15:05] haha :P [15:05] ^-^ [15:05] ocaml isn't for wimps -_- [15:06] got another course that will be java heavay [15:06] Camarade_Tux, bah! [15:06] no java no! [15:06] java, that's for... hmmm, SM :) [15:06] best course yet, advanced programming techniques [15:07] so, I hope the java wont annoy to much [15:07] too [15:07] slackytude|evil, we're always talking about java, yeah that's annoying [15:07] its ugly [15:07] it's weight! [15:07] Action: slackytude|evil ponders [15:07] time for beer? [15:08] slackytude|evil, always! [15:08] "java" "advanced programming techniques"? hmmmm that sounds wrong [15:08] slackytude|evil: you haven't had your daily beer yet? :o [15:08] Camarade_Tux, he said he had to use a language and chances were high most anybody knew some java [15:08] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:09] ocaml would have been better -_- [15:09] Camarade_Tux, hardly ever drink on weekdays [15:09] slackytude|evil, what else chance was there? [15:09] but uni has started again after all [15:09] metrofox, as in another language? [15:09] well, i cannot google out any good notes on how to modify slackware cd-rom to add a custom kernel .. [15:09] slackytude|evil, yes [15:09] ;( [15:09] Action: Camarade_Tux is currently holding a glass of alcohol [15:09] metrofox, none, heh [15:10] Camarade_Tux, wine? [15:10] slackytude|evil, uh! [15:10] i really need to do this very quick tonight [15:10] still, anything else is great in the course [15:10] haven't got that much time and need to get this system ready! [15:11] errordeveloper, the kernel used during setup, you mean? [15:12] Action: slackytude|evil drinks beer [15:12] slackytude|evil: lower quality champagne (can't be called champagne) [15:12] well, it's fake champagne [15:12] bah! [15:13] yeah, I'd rather drink Orangina [15:13] but to be hones, my beer aint good either [15:13] becks -_- [15:13] v4nelle (n=van@adsl77-146.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:13] slackytude|evil: what is it? [15:13] Camarade_Tux, some cheap lager [15:13] slackytude|evil: and the name? [15:14] Beck's [15:14] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becks [15:14] slackytude|evil, the beer? [15:14] ye [15:14] yes [15:14] tasty! [15:14] slackytude|evil: yep [15:15] i need GPT partition map support ;) [15:15] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.210.251) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:15] errordeveloper, you can look at and modify the isolinux stuff [15:15] I always buy Beck's or German beer... [15:15] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:15] metrofox, I dont like it that much but its ok and not too expensive [15:15] AEnima15771 (n=clbarnob@h80ad273c.async.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [15:16] http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/ISOLINUX [15:16] how much is it in German? [15:16] Action: Camarade_Tux votes for a good bottle of Fischer [15:16] psibian (i=1000@123.238.132.24) joined ##slackware. [15:16] Action: metrofox votes for coca-cola [15:16] or pepsoi [15:16] *pepsi [15:16] gpt partitions, hmm... [15:17] metrofox: one day, you'll have to shave [15:17] one day [15:17] xD [15:17] o_O [15:17] mmm [15:17] metrofox, around 2.00¬ [15:17] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:17] slackytude|evil: per liter? [15:18] aye [15:18] Camarade_Tux, per bottle... [15:18] uh... per liter? [15:18] slackytude|evil: how much for one liter? [15:19] and I should shave for tomorrow if I don't want to scare the newbies (free software day) [15:19] however Camarade_Tux yes I will one day... [15:19] poor guys :( [15:20] perlsyntax (n=perlsynt@adsl-76-229-173-251.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:20] psibian (i=1000@123.238.132.24) left irc: "Leaving" [15:20] 24 bottles * 0.33 litre = 14.00¬ [15:20] 14.00€... mmm... hmm... uhmm... [15:21] thats around 2 per liter [15:21] not bad... 24 bottles... [15:21] more or less [15:22] here its cost is 2.50€ -.-" [15:22] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [15:22] Karu (n=alch@78-28-90-32.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left ##slackware. [15:22] Action: slackytude|evil shrugs [15:22] I mean... it costs 2.50€ [15:22] you can easily get a single 0.2 cup of becks for 5¬ easily as well ^-^ [15:23] especially when a lot of tourists are around [15:23] slackytude|evil: ok ..i'm getting there [15:23] at the supermarket or at the bar... at the "zio" 2.00€ more or less... [15:23] slackytude|evil: hm.. one thing i'm not too sure about is the initrd.img [15:24] Camarade_Tux, scare the newbies! [15:24] for zio in Italian we mean "uncle" but not because that's a real uncle, but for respect [15:24] :P [15:24] do i need to touch that? ..i just add a few kernel-built-in option [15:24] errordeveloper, last did I swicthed kernels I could use same initrd [15:24] slackytude|evil, he scared me too... [15:24] didn't add any modules [15:24] slackytude|evil: some people there will be "bsd france" and "openbsd france" ;p [15:24] errordeveloper, didnt have to, ymmw [15:24] initrd.img contains /lib/modules/, right? [15:24] s/openbsd france/openbsd/ [15:24] http://www.jdll.org/edition-2009/les-associations [15:25] ok then, that makes my life easier ;)) [15:25] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [15:25] lesbian associates? [15:25] oh, its french [15:25] woot \o/ [15:25] Women & Mozilla [15:25] :D [15:25] heh [15:25] funny [15:26] slackytude|evil: and python guys! [15:26] and ruby! [15:26] Camarade_Tux, sounds fun [15:26] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.56.9.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:26] slackytude|evil: check the news often, you might hear of somebody killing a bunch of people :) [15:26] metrofox, so, what you mean when you say at the "zio" ? [15:27] Camarade_Tux, gasp! an ocalm conspiracy? [15:27] metrofox, if it isnt your real uncle? [15:27] ...? [15:27] zio is a persona, zio means uncle in Italian, but he's not my/our, he's an old persona which sales "stuff", we call him "uncle"(zio) for respect only :P [15:28] slackytude|evil: I won't be able to troll successfully this year, next year [15:28] sounds like a don... lol [15:28] and I'll see if I can get some slackware guys [15:28] do you kiss his ring? [15:28] Necos, you got it... [15:28] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: "leaving" [15:28] metrofox, ahh, I see. "Tane Emma" its called here [15:28] Necos, no I don't/won't [15:28] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@pool-71-164-64-112.albyny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:28] lol [15:28] sorry "Tante" [15:28] aigon (n=rm@92.84.8.2) left irc: Client Quit [15:29] metrofox, which means aunt emma [15:29] zia emma [15:29] I think americans use someone like that too [15:29] mom & pop shop [15:29] or store [15:30] tia , tio, = zia zio new words yay! \o/ [15:30] funny, how some elements of language are shared [15:30] deco, :D [15:30] Camarade_Tux, why not? [15:30] Camarade_Tux, you getting laid now, or what? [15:30] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FF37B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:31] slackytude|evil: wait, *WHAT*? :P [15:31] slackytude|evil: had your 13 t-shirt? [15:32] Camarade_Tux, sure, told you about it. I went drinking with it friday [15:32] Camarade_Tux, mixed results. someone started talking about ubuntu [15:32] credo (n=cherchez@80.233.147.119) left irc: "leaving" [15:32] Camarade_Tux, I was wondering why you couldnt troll successfully anymore [15:32] Action: metrofox is thinking how crappy is line here from 0 to 10... [15:33] and it's 11 [15:33] metrofox: how do you say cousin ? [15:33] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:33] slackytude|evil: I want pics! ;-) [15:33] cugino [15:33] Camarade_Tux, its a nifty shirt [15:33] deco, cugino or cugina(if female) [15:33] metrofox: oh ok thanks ! [15:33] slackytude|evil: I'm not ready for a large and real-world action ;-) [15:33] Camarade_Tux, Im thinking of making a shirt with just the slackware line and removing the linux line [15:34] deco, ask if you've other doubts :P [15:34] slackytude|evil: but there's almost nothing on tomorrow, mostly friday and saturday [15:34] metrofox: ok :P [15:34] Camarade_Tux, not ready? [15:34] and have to go, be back in <30 minutes [15:34] slackytude|evil: yeah, I need propaganda material [15:34] ask whatever you want.. :P [15:34] Camarade_Tux, for what? [15:34] t-shirt, hoodies, strings, mugs, condoms! [15:34] metrofox: that's it for now :P [15:34] Camarade_Tux: thongs ? [15:35] condoms? [15:35] deco: yeah, slackware ones :) [15:35] metrofox: keyword, "for now" He'll have a bunch more later. :P [15:35] slackware condoms? [15:35] pass out slackware condoms. [15:35] that doesnt sound right, somehow [15:35] Camarade_Tux: ok wear that on friday.... [15:35] slackytude|evil: yes, sure ;) [15:35] slackytude|evil: the safest and most stable ones :) [15:35] lol [15:35] deco: ^^^ [15:35] bah, windows [15:35] anyway, gotta go, bbs :) [15:35] the only thing worse on a condom besides slackware would be microsoft [15:35] fire|bird, lol... I'll be here 'til 23.00(it's 21.36) [15:36] Camarade_Tux, see ya [15:36] mess with peoples mind so everytime they see the slackware symbol they get horny [15:36] lol [15:36] haha [15:36] .... [15:37] spider1010, use this symbol: ---|-||\-- [15:37] ? [15:37] guess what's that... all slackers are invited [15:37] (it's easy) [15:37] lol [15:37] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: "leaving" [15:37] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [15:38] you can do it guys! [15:38] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:39] little fix: ---|-|-|\-- [15:39] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:39] i'm looking through instructables, and this looks somewhat promising but does anyone know of any sort of ready-made usb/parallel interface solution that i can use to toggle power receptacles on and off through solid state relays? [15:40] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:40] needs to be *n?x, not even about to run power through an unreliable OS [15:40] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:40] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [15:40] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Client Quit [15:41] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [15:41] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:41] wow, qtoctave is awesome ^.^ [15:41] mmm... [15:42] BP{k}: doesn't work :'( -> http://pastie.org/655030 [15:42] hmmm [15:45] Necos, I'm taking a look to it, really good! [15:47] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] i'm a physics major, so i need something like MATLAB [15:48] well... It's dr.house time... I'll be right back! [15:48] dr.house? >.> [15:48] lol [15:48] you mean hugh laurie's house? :P [15:48] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521acc.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:48] Necos, yes... [15:49] lol cool [15:49] i haven't watched this weeks episode yet [15:49] I'll tell you how it finishes! [15:49] mauaha, no no... I won't, see ya 45 minutes later :P [15:50] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-51-105.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [15:51] imarambiocatan_ (n=imarambi@209.226.78.235) joined ##slackware. [15:52] vastina, come again? [15:53] he wants to make a usb-controlled voltage switching computer? [15:53] s/computer/device/; [15:54] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-66-190.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:55] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: Client Quit [15:56] appzer0_ (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:57] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:58] Necos, might have to give that a try myself [15:59] http://xkcd.com/ seen new xkcd [15:59] though it might just distract me from the inevitable MATLAB>C that would serve me better =S [15:59] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:59] imarambiocatan_ (n=imarambi@209.226.78.235) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:02] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) joined ##slackware. [16:03] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: "That's my story, and I'm sticking to it." [16:03] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@83.87.139.196) joined ##slackware. [16:03] hey guys, what do I do to let a user shutdown xfce from the panel? [16:04] add a user to wheel? power? [16:04] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [16:04] add a line to /etc/sudoers? [16:04] Buggaboo: power, I think [16:06] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [16:07] How can I disable the function that always turns the right half of my keyboard into a numpad, when kde is startet? [16:08] wubbster (n=wubbster@24.206.157.137) joined ##slackware. [16:08] Tirili, choose a different keyboard layout. [16:08] Tirili, depends. is it the same on console? [16:08] in runlevel 3 everything is okay. [16:09] nachox (n=imarambi@190.216.26.210) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:09] asked in #kde? [16:09] I can deactivate it by pressing fn + F11. [16:09] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:09] no [16:09] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.47.149) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:11] I'll do some tests to find out, what it cannot be. [16:11] Tirili: that's called blocknum, and i'm pretty sure it can be deactivated from somewhere in the settings for the keyboard [16:12] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.24.89) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@83.87.139.196) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [16:12] er, blocknum is the name in my keyboard, in english it's probably numlock or something like that [16:13] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@83.87.139.196) joined ##slackware. [16:13] In kde keyboard settings? [16:13] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189.69.17.47) joined ##slackware. [16:14] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:15] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-51-105.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:16] Oh, wait. "NumLock on KDE Startup". :D [16:16] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) left ##slackware. [16:16] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [16:17] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) joined ##slackware. [16:17] wb Tirili :) [16:17] What's wb? [16:17] welcome back [16:17] (It works now) [16:17] I restarted kde. I am a blind chicken. [16:18] iv had it up to here ^ with kde [16:18] i should say akonadi [16:18] lol [16:19] indeed you have Scuzz [16:19] vbatts new packages fixed the guidence issues [16:19] but that damn akonadi [16:19] plop: let me have a look if I can reproduce your error. [16:19] Scuzz: Just switch to xfce. ;) [16:19] you know what [16:19] i might take you up on that [16:20] \o/ [16:20] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [16:20] Im thinking of switching to xfce as well [16:20] powtrix (n=powtrix@189.69.16.118) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:20] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [16:20] kde is like a younger brother [16:20] gar0t0_ (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [16:20] you love him but sometimes you want to punch him in the face [16:20] xfce + goodies == win. [16:21] BP{k}: +++ [16:21] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:21] Scuzz: or in this case, the KDE Menu? :P [16:21] k how do i get xfce running now [16:22] yeaop [16:22] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:22] xwmconfig and set xfce for default, log out and back in. ;) [16:22] Or, if you boot to a login manager, you can just pick it in the menu. [16:22] Scuzz: and make sure you have it installed in the first place ;) [16:22] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [16:23] must have been installed. :P [16:23] dangit [16:23] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.134.96) left irc: Connection timed out [16:23] hey vbatts [16:24] howdy fire|bird [16:24] vbatts: dangit to you as well. ;) [16:24] appzer0_ (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) got netsplit. [16:24] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) got netsplit. 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[16:24] thank you sir [16:24] welcome back Scuzz [16:24] for the sake of responding to people, i wish they could just leave irssi in a screen session [16:24] now i jsut have to make it look sexy [16:24] Scuzz: !! [16:25] salut [16:25] vbatts: heh, ain't that the truth :) [16:25] akonadi will be fixed soon in -current [16:25] ahh thanx [16:25] perlsyntax (n=perlsynt@adsl-69-210-135-71.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] my attmepts probably left it useless [16:25] How do i update m perl in slackware? [16:26] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:26] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-129-177-211.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:27] hi [16:28] Scuzz: the problem is not actually in akonadi ;) [16:28] mysql ? 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[16:30] Nick change: gar0t0_ -> gar0t0 [16:30] i've got to get back to work [16:30] Action: vbatts is afk [16:30] thanx again [16:30] question, what's the kde command to begin a new session? [16:30] nvision (n=nvision@pD95344F3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:30] gdm isn't working well for me [16:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@86.147.235.159) joined ##slackware. [16:32] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:32] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-353-1-51-254.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [16:32] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZsjQBtEZ6M [16:33] garme (n=garme@201009127006.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:33] sahko: what did you finally do to resolve this issue? /usr/share/groff/1.20.1/tmac/doc.tmac:3375: bad character definition [16:34] antiwire: its upstream iirc [16:34] dear me, I forgot that it took a while to compile php. [16:34] sahko: So, hurry up and wait? 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[16:34] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@141.100.40.82) joined ##slackware. [16:34] that type of thing? [16:35] probably yeah. i think its fixed in SVN [16:35] k thanks [16:35] How do i upgrade perl in slackware? [16:35] some GNU tools release cycles take a while [16:35] perlsyntax: recompile it? [16:35] perlsyntax: depends on how you installed perl in slackware [16:36] i see [16:36] perlsyntax: plus probably all the programs depending on perl [16:36] i thought package manager did that. [16:37] Action: metrofox is back [16:37] cool [16:37] i can't wait to install slackware close to done download it. [16:37] :) [16:37] perlsyntax: no. a package manages packages. not rebuild things. [16:37] i just use to ubuntu try to get away fromit. [16:37] :D [16:37] ..... [16:37] BP{k}: i guess you mean a package manager manages packages [16:37] ;P [16:38] slackware != ubuntu; [16:38] steiger: indeed. :) [16:38] ? [16:38] steiger: I am glad to see some of us are awake ;) [16:38] perlsyntax: slackware has perl as an officially distributed package. unless you have good reasons not to do so, i guess you should go with the official package [16:39] then, yes, you get automatic upgrading from the package manager [16:39] BP{k}: yeah, it's very nice [16:39] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-214-024.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:39] that what i thought. [16:39] samuelig (n=samuelig@16.pool85-57-150.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [16:39] samuelig (n=samuelig@16.pool85-57-150.dynamic.orange.es) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:39] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.24.89) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:40] hmmm [16:41] is there a command line to start a new xsession? [16:41] plop: "Slackware package /tmp/php-5.2.11-x86_64-1_slack13.0.txz created" and that is php recompiled with --with-xmlrpc. So it just works here. [16:41] antiwire: i couldnt even remember when i got that. thanks to LQ: http://www.linuxquestions.org:80/questions/slackware-14/slackware-man-pages-755331/?s=c1f879b44314f6e733ecb2689950c502 [16:42] oh, netsplit over [16:42] slackytude|evil: yup [16:42] sahko: yeah that's how I knew to ask you about it [16:42] oh :) [16:42] i got nothing more to add then [16:43] i'd like to add a 'switch user' functionality to xfce and other wm's [16:43] anyone know how i'd begin to go about this? [16:43] xfce has around 6 developers [16:44] nyRednek: yes. one moment :) [16:44] BP{k}, thanks [16:44] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [16:44] alphad64 (n=alphad@41.207.31.106) joined ##slackware. [16:45] nyRednek: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/desktop/xfswitch-plugin/ <-- would that be what you are looking for? :) [16:46] BP{k}, i don't want just xfce [16:46] BP{k}, i want something i can add to any wm, including my favorite, fvwm2 [16:46] yuck, php. Go learn a framework. [16:46] good advice ..... [16:47] at best learn symphony. [16:47] ..... [16:49] nyRednek: well that wasn't what you asked. I don't think there is a universal method, I at least haven't seen one. [16:50] i could write scripts if i could see exactly what shell commands these plugins invoke [16:50] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:51] garme (n=garme@201009127006.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [16:51] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@83.87.139.196) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:52] the problem with gdmflexiserver...it throws errors if a second session is running, instead of just switching to a lis [16:52] list [16:52] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521acc.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [16:52] php ewww :P [16:53] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:54] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.69.146) joined ##slackware. [16:54] ard find perl 5.10.1 in a linux iso. [16:54] hard [16:57] perlsyntax (n=perlsynt@adsl-69-210-135-71.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:58] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@198.82.26.204) joined ##slackware. [16:58] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [16:59] perl++ :P [16:59] ..... [16:59] ...... [16:59] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-228.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:00] [tessai@tessai:~ #]> perl -v [17:00] This is perl, v5.10.0 built for i486-linux-thread-multi [17:00] xdan779 (n=dduncan_@64-233-207-75.static.nap.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [17:00] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [17:00] i'll try to work on xscreensaver's hardcoded bs on gdmflexiserver, but i wish there was a better way [17:02] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:05] firedix (n=firedix@host195.201-252-177.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [17:07] Guest22577 (n=llbean@p5DC30112.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Guest22577 (n=llbean@p5DC30112.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware. [17:09] well... I go to bed now, see ya [17:09] MrJackson (n=MrJackso@173-86-0-209.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:09] ciao deco, bye fire|bird, bye slackytude|evil [17:09] see ya metrofox [17:09] gute nacht^-^ [17:09] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:10] thank you slackytude|evil :P [17:10] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.53.127.163) left irc: "+-||\-" [17:10] slackware_bob (n=slackwar@adsl-76-249-229-126.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:10] ok BP{k} im trying it, thanks a lot !! [17:10] Hello People. [17:11] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [17:12] Oh NO!! , who let the dogs out! [17:12] woof woof [17:13] plop: what is there to try .. you have been at this for 7 frigging hours? [17:14] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:14] lol 7 hrs of what? [17:15] Necos: trying to rebuild php [17:15] O_o# [17:16] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:16] which frankly is notthing more than copying php and alpine slackbuild and add --with-xmlrpc to the php.SlackBuild and run it .. sit back and wait. [17:16] 5 minutes of actual work .. if at that. [17:16] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [17:16] lol [17:17] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.56.9.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:17] yes, laughing at your own inability to get things done is effective. [17:18] en fait je trouve pas les bons mot, mais si tu comprenais le francais, je pourrais te dire que j'essaye pas mal de chose depuis tout a l'heure, entre autre ta solution avec le slackbuild [17:18] fire|bird, that's a damn shame :) [17:18] j'ai du modifier le fichier php.slackbuild pour qu'il ne m'install pas alpine [17:18] j'ai mangé aussi [17:18] j'ai réessayé [17:18] plop, i don't feel like translating, so speak english damn it [17:18] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Success [17:19] lol [17:19] BP{k}: there, now you made him speak French. Shame on you! :P [17:19] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC30112.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [17:19] i have nothing to say :) [17:19] plop: enfin [17:19] well, the pakage i have : Package php-5.2.11-x86_64-1.txz installed. [17:20] but no xml-rpc [17:20] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [17:20] pprkut: can I ask him to surrender next? [17:20] where is yours ? [17:20] nvision (n=nvision@pD95344F3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:20] hmmmm, this is wierd... [17:21] Necos: well, the first line is: in fact I find the wrong word, but if you understand French, I could tell you that I try a lot of things from just now, between Your other option with SlackBuild [17:21] .... [17:21] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-176-216.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:21] i know what it says fire|bird... i just didn't want to think >.> [17:21] right i say that in this perfect english ! [17:22] stfugtfokthxbai [17:22] Nick change: appzer0_ -> appzer0 [17:22] Necos: yeah, don't want to strain your brain while your sitting on it eh? :) [17:22] lol chopp [17:22] i'm looking at http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib#running_32-bit_programs [17:22] chopp: ++ [17:22] trying to figure out how to change all the menu fonts in openoffice [17:22] is there a simplier way? [17:23] just quick single package install ? [17:23] or an automated ..single script [17:23] if you have to ask, then you probably shouldn't do it [17:23] so by default slackware64 has only 64bit libs? [17:24] yes [17:24] <_guitarman_> its better that way [17:24] <_guitarman_> damned skype made me multilib. otherwise a 64 bit world is awesome. [17:24] errordeveloper, yeah, i have the multilib setup [17:25] <_guitarman_> it complicates things a bit though, if u dont need it, dont bother [17:25] apparently, the trick wasn't as trivial as i thought :) [17:26] BP{k}: hehe. At this point, I probably wouldn't ask anymore ;) [17:26] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: "leaving" [17:27] mkeil (i=marcel@juniper.main.us-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] is there something resembling kmail(smtp and pop) including ssl for console? [17:28] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FF37B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [17:28] nyRednek: you mean a cli email client ? [17:29] deco, yeah, and i don't mean pine [17:29] nyRednek: alpine maybe ? [17:29] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.80.19) joined ##slackware. [17:29] pine evolved [17:29] mutt [17:30] pine is a real pita to use, and, iirc, both pine and mutt require a running smtp server [17:30] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.69.146) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:30] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.5.1) joined ##slackware. [17:31] nyRednek: alpine doesn't [17:31] iow, i don't want to type the from address in every time i write an email [17:31] oh [17:31] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [17:31] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:31] Choco25 (n=Facker@187.41.74.159) joined ##slackware. [17:32] hmmm dunno anymore really i haven't used it in a while [17:32] Choco25 (n=Facker@187.41.74.159) left irc: Client Quit [17:32] i just used with my gmai account [17:32] used it* [17:32] gmail* [17:33] i didn't have to type the from address... [17:34] deco, seems every time i used multiple email accounts, i had to type outgoing address [17:35] BP{k}: i found it but no xml-rpc too ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/patches/packages/php-5.2.11-x86_64-1_slack13.0.txz [17:35] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@198.82.26.204) left irc: "Leaving." [17:35] ........ [17:35] *le sigh* [17:35] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) left ##slackware. [17:35] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "leaving" [17:36] nyRednek: oh , i don't think it plays well with multiple accounts... [17:36] deco, no, it doesn't [17:37] plop: it is very simple. Slackware does not offer support for xml-rpc for php. IF you want it you need to *recompile* php. You download the source from a mirror (patches/source/php/ and source/n/alpine), put them in /tmp. Edit the php.SlackBuild and add --with-xmlrpc and rerun the slackbuild script. [17:38] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-162-151.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:38] i'd like one that does [17:38] i have already try that.. [17:39] i know how to use smtp to relay to say, my gmail smtp [17:39] plop: I demand proof. show me a build.log. [17:39] and know how to use fetchmail to grab [17:39] akira42 (i=1001@91-64-159-112-dynip.superkabel.de) joined ##slackware. [17:39] a *FULL* build log. [17:39] http://pastie.org/655178 [17:39] but... [17:40] i want something, maybe with a pine-style interface, that plays well directly polling and downloading from pop3 servers [17:40] plop: that is not a full build log. please make one with "bash -x ./php.SlackBuild 2>&1 | tee BUILD.log" and post that. [17:41] and also plays well with multiple smtp servers [17:41] thunderbird does this, but want something i can SCREEN out [17:41] anahel (i=anahel@unaffiliated/anahel) got netsplit. [17:41] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) got netsplit. [17:41] KB1JWQ (i=KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) got netsplit. [17:41] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) got netsplit. [17:41] PancakeStaffer (i=KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) got netsplit. [17:41] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) got netsplit. [17:41] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) returned to ##slackware. [17:43] perilla (n=perilla@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [17:43] plop: also, if you have edited the php.SlackBuild, post that. [17:44] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "caindo fora!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" [17:45] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [17:45] anahel (i=anahel@yunix.net) returned to ##slackware. [17:46] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [17:47] KB1JWQ (i=KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) got lost in the net-split. [17:47] PancakeStaffer (i=KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) got lost in the net-split. [17:47] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) got lost in the net-split. [17:47] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) got lost in the net-split. [17:47] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-167-118-120.range86-167.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:49] jeev (n=email@174.139.9.42) joined ##slackware. [17:50] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Leaving." [17:51] BP{k}: http://pastie.org/655262 (full log to long) [17:51] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [17:52] KB1JWQ (i=KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) joined ##slackware. [17:52] here my php.Slackbuild file : http://pastie.org/655263 [17:52] evo- (n=evo@91.47.243.123) joined ##slackware. [17:52] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:53] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [17:53] br00tal (n=Jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:54] _maxiwll_ar (n=_maxiwll@189.42.122.87) joined ##slackware. [17:54] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@h80ad271d.async.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [17:54] plop: ... [17:55] ezr (n=jpb@97-80-124-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:55] This line says alot: ./php.SlackBuild: line 303: syntax error: unexpected end of file [17:55] 5.2.11 yes.. [17:55] plop: right .. just looking at your php.SlackBuild... move the the line that has .. "--with-xmlrpc \" above the "--build=$ARCH-slackware-linux" for starters [17:55] fire|bird: check line 20[01] [17:55] ah ok.. [17:56] sorry :/ [17:57] building in progress [17:57] plop: also really, I would recommend you use php 5.2.11 build from ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/patches/source/php/ [17:58] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [17:58] but alas, you can do that one you get php-5.2.10 to build properly. [17:58] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:59] question, how do you name SCREEN sessions? [17:59] -S [17:59] so screen -S name -r program ? [17:59] ok [18:00] akira42 (i=1001@91-64-159-112-dynip.superkabel.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:00] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@d24-57-84-192.home.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:01] nyRednek: should work. or screen -rS name program [18:01] BP{k}: same as this afternoon http://pastie.org/655278 [18:01] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:01] i try with 5.2.11 [18:04] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [18:04] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [18:06] arno (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:06] delt (i=1000@66.234.22.163) joined ##slackware. [18:06] Hello [18:07] alo [18:07] slackware 13.0 fresh install. Why do the ./configure scripts of most source code tarballs just hang there indefinitely? [18:07] ./configure --help gives the usual compile options etc etc... [18:07] o_O [18:07] and sometimes i can just rm the configure script and run autogen/automake ... [18:07] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [18:09] config.log looks like: http://pastebin.com/m765a3f0 [18:09] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:12] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.85.237) joined ##slackware. [18:13] BP{k}: yeah, I had seen that line too, was going to mention it, but I got a phone call. :P [18:13] evo- (n=evo@91.47.243.123) left irc: "Don't mind your make-up, make your mind up!" [18:13] JsonicG (n=JsonicG@189.63.210.6) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:14] perlsyntax (n=perlsynt@adsl-69-210-135-71.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] greetings and salutations [18:14] greetings andarius, how are you? [18:14] salutations fire|bird, i am well. you? [18:15] andarius: I am great, thank you. just messing with some xfce stuff, looking at various themes. :) [18:16] fire|bird: great, I'll just come to you then to find the great looking ones, saves me time :D [18:16] freeload off the birdy [18:16] slackmagic: haha, I'm liking nodoka midnight, a darker theme, but one that isn't pitch black that messes with text color for menus, etc. [18:16] _maxiwll_ar (n=_maxiwll@189.42.122.87) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:17] slackmagic: I've been messing with compiz the past couple days as well, so I'm going to look at some emerald themes for window decorations. [18:17] slackmagic: fwiw, andarius's xfce looks amazing. :) [18:17] fire|bird: do you have the link still ? [18:17] no [18:18] pffft [18:18] BP{k}: i have an error, i delete the line --with-xpm-dir=/usr \ [18:18] fire|bird: yeah I don't like too dark either, dark enough so it looks off from the default theme of xfce and that can "impress" my fellow friends and coworkers [18:19] slackmagic: yeah, that's kind of what nodoka midnight is too, darker, but not too dark. It's mostly a dark grey. [18:19] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-51-105.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:20] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:20] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-51-105.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:20] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.85.237) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:20] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:21] slackmagic: Here's the nodoka black gtk theme with Minsta window decoration. http://imagebin.org/67463 [18:21] err, nodoka midnight. :P [18:22] nice nice [18:23] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-51-105.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [18:25] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:25] fire|bird: yeah I think I've seen some of andarius' screenshots before, they really look stunningly beautiful. I like that nodoka theme too. Going to have to look for it and set it up on the systems for my coworkers/friends. Thanks again [18:26] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:26] nyRednek (n=nyRednek@24.168.60.60) joined ##slackware. [18:26] slackmagic: http://slackwaregallery.org/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=0 [18:26] slackmagic: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/desktop/gtk-nodoka-engine/ ;) [18:27] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.130.126) joined ##slackware. [18:27] fire|bird: even better! , and now I need to google for p0rn...got a link for that too fire|bird ? rofl [18:27] deco: yep, looks sweet [18:27] slackmagic: no, not that, but I hear deco has a crapton of em. [18:28] slackmagic: thanks [18:28] thats kiddie porn. :P [18:28] slackmagic: 4chan.org always works... [18:28] good stuff [18:28] slackmagic: xfce-look.org is a nice place to check for xfce/gtk themes. [18:29] fire|bird: yeah that's where I usually go [18:29] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:30] oh well not even a thanks pffft [18:30] deco: ah ok :) I guess I'll add NSFW for now for everyone else hehe [18:30] perilla (n=perilla@192.188.48.254) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:30] slackmagic: oh /s/ is sweet [18:30] fire|bird: goes there a lot [18:30] ok, back with irssi [18:30] just ditched xchat for time being [18:31] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:31] mario (n=mario@hades.slackware-hrvatska.org) joined ##slackware. [18:32] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:38] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.5.1) left irc: Connection timed out [18:38] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:38] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.80.19) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:39] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:41] mario (n=mario@hades.slackware-hrvatska.org) left irc: "Leaving" [18:42] mario (n=mario@hades.slackware-hrvatska.org) joined ##slackware. [18:43] anybody familiar with "kbuildsycoca4"? [18:44] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:45] so after my disk rampage, it appears that alsa decided to forget about my audio card and it can't find it...any idea why? OSS works, alsa gives me 'function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device' [18:45] and alsaconf can't find a card [18:45] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [18:45] Action: edman007 has 2 audio cards that it should find, built into the kernel [18:47] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [18:47] and the really weird thing is i have /etc/asound.state with the right stuff and i can't load it [18:48] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:48] there nice and gothic http://omploader.org/vMmpvZA [18:48] Apparently Pidgin doesn't think I really want my AIM privacy setting where I have it. :/ [18:49] Someone not on my buddy list just sent me a message, and I have the privacy set to not allow that. [18:50] what did he say ? [18:50] That isn't relevant. [18:50] :) [18:50] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:51] godling: i.e. it's on a need-to-know basis, and he doesn't need to know. ;) [18:51] godling: pffft [18:53] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [18:53] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:55] I think the bug might be fixed in 2.6.2 but the pidgin package in Slackware64-current is at 2.5.9 [18:56] godling: I have 2.6.2, what are you having issues with exactly? [18:56] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:57] fire|bird: people not on my list messaging me when I have the aim privacy setting set to "Allow only the users on my buddy list". [18:57] godling: ok, I can mess around with it here, if I can remember my password for aim, I haven't been on that in ages. :P [18:59] haha, whoops, the forget password thing won't do me any good, I don't have that e-mail address anymore. [18:59] ..... [19:00] delt (i=1000@66.234.22.163) left ##slackware. [19:00] ...... <-- mines bigger :o [19:00] Thats what SHE said [19:00] [ in bed ] [19:00] slackie (n=x@87.196.81.25) joined ##slackware. [19:00] ...... [19:00] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [19:00] must have a hard on now :| [19:00] since it got bigger [19:01] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:01] mercfate (i=1000@201-75-111-163-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [19:01] hello [19:01] anyone can indicate a good torrent client? [19:02] transmission [19:02] ktorrent [19:02] .... [19:02] transmission is good? light? [19:02] mercfate: yes [19:02] rtorrent [19:02] try them all and see which one you like [19:03] azureus [19:03] azureus is heavy [19:03] i will try trnasmission and rtorrent [19:03] rtorrent [19:03] ctorrent is great :) [19:03] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:04] great for screen [19:04] atorrent is cool too [19:04] oh and ztorrent [19:04] rtorrent is sexy [19:04] sexier then a cat ? [19:05] :D [19:05] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:05] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:05] yes..but not as much as a large, flightless bird [19:05] oh ok [19:05] the screenshot of transmission look good [19:06] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.217) joined ##slackware. [19:06] alphad64 (n=alphad@41.207.31.106) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:06] mercfate: stop looking and try it [19:06] ... [19:06] lol [19:06] downloading... [19:06] alphad64 (n=alphad@41.207.31.106) joined ##slackware. [19:08] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [19:08] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] mercfate: aria2 [19:10] thanks [19:10] aria2 can download a file from multiple sources/protocols ... think multiple concurrent connections [19:10] hum [19:10] i will try too [19:10] im donwnloading trnasmission now [19:10] With aria2 I finally get the speeds I should. [19:11] cool [19:11] who useing slackware 13.0? [19:11] Are you building an app, or want a pkg? [19:11] perlsyntax: ...... [19:11] 12.2 [19:11] perlsyntax: incomplete question ;) [19:11] i will build [19:11] oh, well, maybe not ... sorry [19:11] using Slackware64 13.0 and Slackware 13.0 [19:12] mercfate: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aria2/ [19:12] jut want to know.Is it easy install the windows manger? [19:12] yah perlsyntax [19:12] right [19:12] thanks [19:12] what you think the best one is.I want to try out blackbox. [19:12] perlsyntax: which wm are you interested in? [19:12] Fluxbox [19:12] perlsyntax: fluxbox [19:13] yeah [19:13] It's blackbox updated [19:13] ok [19:13] perlsyntax: It will be installed for you if you do a full install. [19:13] perlsyntax: and at the end of the install you are asked to pick a wm/de [19:13] The one you select then will be your default. [19:14] If you want to change it later you can. [19:14] mingdao: make sure he creates a user account :P [19:14] yes [19:14] mercfate (i=1000@201-75-111-163-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [19:14] perlsyntax: issue "adduser perlsyntax" or whatever normal user you desire, and create a normal user ... login as that, not as root [19:14] ;) [19:14] +1 deco [19:14] mingdao: :) [19:15] yep i know that. [19:16] mingdao,I was donloading and stop it by mistake and i had to start over lol. [19:16] what client are you using to d/l? [19:18] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@141.100.40.82) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:19] Is Pidgin 2.6.2 in slackware-current? [19:19] look [19:19] :) [19:19] the packagebrowser is down [19:19] I guess I could track down a mirror [19:19] yup [19:19] thanks for not helping deco :P [19:19] godling: lazy boy :P [19:20] sure, I'm lazy [19:21] godling: no it isn't. [19:21] I just checked BP{k} but thanks [19:21] godling: but it's easy enough to compile yourself. [19:21] Yes, I know, thank you. :) [19:21] godling: yup do it, ive done it , easy [19:22] thanks to all helpful people, I have reinstalled my slack system and understand it better now. [19:22] I was just going to ask fire|bird if he had written a slackbuild script or just compiled it from the source at pidgin.im [19:22] godling: i just changed version number on the slackscript [19:22] godling: why write one? there is one in source/xap/pidgin [19:23] shit, that's where it is [19:23] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) joined ##slackware. [19:23] lol [19:23] I was looking in the pidgin txz [19:23] I must not be thinking too clearly right now [19:23] thanks BP{k} [19:23] cwwilson721 (n=cwwilson@12.175.44.24) joined ##slackware. [19:24] I need some samba/printer help. Any takers? [19:25] i'll pass... [19:25] just state your issue [19:25] don't mean to snap if I did, I'm a little edgy right now guys [19:25] I have Samba setup for the MS boxen on network to see shares. Can write to them. Can see installed HP printer from network. cannot print [19:26] godling: didn't notice [19:26] wow this mirror is slow [19:26] deco: cool [19:26] godling: try the open source lab one [19:26] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [19:26] you're not allowed to use the word boxen if you can't configure samba by yourself. hacker rules, sorry. [19:26] godling: http://slackware.osuosl.org/ [19:27] arfon (n=arfon@24-155-184-76.ip.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [19:27] thanks deco [19:27] godling: np [19:27] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-116-51.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:27] Samba configured. Freakin' HP printer is a yahoo [19:27] How do I stop inittab respawn messages from being sent to the console? [19:28] Prob something incredibly simple/stupid I'm missing. lost my notes, etc in major sata crash over weekend [19:28] that sucks cwwilson721 [19:28] gnubien (n=e@58.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:29] No ideas? [19:30] having an issue, probably simple [19:31] fetchmail and gmx.net doesn't seem to like each other [19:31] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl5-182-239.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:31] the thing complains that it can't find gmx.net's certificate authority cert [19:31] gmx is signed by thawte [19:32] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:33] cwwilson721 (n=cwwilson@12.175.44.24) left irc: "Leaving" [19:34] How do I stop inittab respawn messages from being sent to the console? [19:34] ..... [19:37] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:37] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:39] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-167-118-120.range86-167.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:39] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:40] hah. under teh conversation link on this Pidgin window it gives me the option to unblock this person [19:40] funny [19:41] heh [19:44] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:45] ok, now how would one get postfix to forward mail through gmail? [19:45] one wouldnt [19:45] why would you want to do that? [19:46] godling: so i don't have to reconfigure alpine every time i send mail from a different address(not sending spam) [19:46] I could see gmail to postfix but not the other way around [19:46] er, n/m [19:48] Easier question: How do I change the BASH prompt for serial console connections only. [19:48] yeah, I guess I could see that [19:52] alphad64 (n=alphad@41.207.31.106) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:53] alphad64 (n=alphad@41.207.31.106) joined ##slackware. [19:56] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:57] _dogsoul (i=doggy@root.slackbox.org) left irc: Connection reset by peer [19:58] dogsoul (i=doggy@root.slackbox.org) joined ##slackware. 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[20:18] chazbro (n=cbroam@71.153.129.206) left irc: "leaving" [20:19] so what are the 32-bit libs everyone is using now? [20:19] did someone make some targeted for slack64 or do i have to just take the slamd64 ones [20:19] ? [20:19] edman007: alienBOB has some [20:20] Action: edman007 tries to remember the url to his page [20:20] edman007: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/ [20:20] edman007: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [20:20] thanks [20:20] np [20:21] dogsoul (i=doggy@root.slackbox.org) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:22] does he have that on ftp or something? [20:23] edman007: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/ [20:24] Action: deco has lost hope in humanity... [20:24] :( [20:24] BP{k}, but wget -r gets a whole bunch of crap if i try that page... [20:24] ..... [20:24] wget -r -np [20:25] edman007: lftp is your friend :) [20:25] lftp -c "open http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/; mirror multilib" [20:25] still grabs a bunch of junk.... [20:25] it sees all the html [20:26] lftp works for me. [20:27] alphad64_ (n=alphad@41.207.31.106) joined ##slackware. [20:27] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:27] same here, edman007 you're doing something wrong.... [20:27] ohh, lftp does [20:27] smart [20:27] i know wget does not [20:28] grabs about a dozen html pages for each directory :( [20:29] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "grubbage ftw" [20:31] dogsoul (i=doggy@root.slackbox.org) joined ##slackware. [20:33] initself (n=initself@wsip-98-174-154-206.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:34] getting error Oct 14 20:32:20 parents-laptop postfix/smtp[12369]: warning: unsupported SASL client implementation: cyrus [20:34] nyRednek: Wrong channel. [20:35] test34_ (n=test34@c-69-244-245-20.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:35] test34_ (n=test34@c-69-244-245-20.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:36] Dominian: why wrong channel? [20:36] Dominian: this is on slack [20:36] nyRednek: postfix doesn't come with slackware, and #postfix is probably a better place. [20:36] BP{k}, good catch [20:37] Action: edman007 uses postfix on slack [20:37] edman007: loads of people do. :) [20:37] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [20:38] alphad64 (n=alphad@41.207.31.106) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:38] edman007: wget -m, not wget -r [20:38] ok, this is bullshit, other people get assistance with stuff off of sbo here, yet when i bring up a postfix error, i get told wrong channel? [20:38] Nick change: artv61 -> sends [20:39] Nick change: sends -> artv61 [20:39] lagann_ (n=hex@24.62.142.190) left irc: "Leaving" [20:40] nyRednek: okay. youi want support your sasl implementation is unsupported it seems. :) [20:40] nyRednek: Trust me.. you want #postfix [20:40] :) [20:41] The guys in there KNOW their shit. [20:41] nyRednek, in all seriousness, that is purely a postfix warning (NOT an error), it is not distro specific at all either, SBo is distro specific and focuses on things like compiling (distro specific) and scripting (a general language that everyone in slackware has installed) [20:41] when it comes to postfix that is [20:41] well all except Dominian. [20:41] BP{k}: I walked RIGHT into that.. [20:41] damn it [20:41] yea, and the people in #postfix will help, if you can make them wake up [20:41] Dominian: :) [20:41] HARK [20:41] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:41] A SHYSTER PRIEST EMBARKS ON A QUEST! [20:43] does anyone know how leaving a proxy up will affect liability from your network? [20:43] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.35.158) joined ##slackware. [20:43] edman007: Okay, here is the ultimate wget. "wget -m -A.tgz -A.txz http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/" [20:44] agentc0re, nice [20:46] dartmouth: if its an open proxy you will be smacked [20:46] and possibly tortured [20:46] Dominian, right now its a proxy that doesnt exist [20:47] and do you mean reliability or liability as in.. you're liable if someone uses to say.. hack a network? [20:47] Dominian, my theory is that an open proxy on your network that shares the same IP address on the outside as all other users would be un-litigable (sic? litigatable?) [20:48] john_dee (n=id@93-81-137-37.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [20:48] Me.. if it were a proxy I controlled.. it would be an authenticated proxy .. one I could track where people were going.. if something came up.. I present the logs.. done. [20:48] Dominian, yes but that doesn't give you any impunity at all :D [20:48] maybe not [20:48] and if you are that worried about it.. then don't run one. [20:49] i think you're not getting what im asking [20:49] Either that or you aren't wording it properly ;) [20:49] davi` (n=davi@eudefe.co.cc) joined ##slackware. [20:49] davi` (n=davi@eudefe.co.cc) left ##slackware. [20:49] dartmouth, most ISPs its explicitly against their ToS, so if someone complains they look and drop you [20:50] and people will complain because you will be used as a source of abuse [20:50] edman007, ah [20:50] hence.. you can offload some of that as long as you do it with the TOS of the ISP [20:51] yeah, i imagine thats better than being sued [20:51] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-162-151.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:52] which is why I would definitely log activities [20:52] evening people [20:52] bear in mind.. taking privacy as the highest priority [20:52] evening nachox, how are you? [20:52] i'm fine [20:52] nachox: evening [20:53] everything cool Dominian? [20:54] ahhh yes Everything is sweet deals tonight [20:54] meaning you're dumping your windows boxes for solaris Dominian ? :P [20:54] hahaha [20:54] hahahahahaa [20:55] No [20:55] I use solaris installation disks as coasters [20:55] ;) [20:55] sarcasm does travel through irc, you know? [20:55] i could totally tell your false lauther [20:55] via text, makes it hard [20:55] :) [20:55] nachox: My bad.. [20:55] hehe [20:55] What I meant was..."I use Solaris disks as tinder tos tart my grill" [20:55] ;) [20:56] Action: nachox looks coasters up [20:56] hehe [20:56] lol [20:56] nachox: something to place a drink on ;) [20:56] anyway.. bbiab.. need to get my daughter out of the tub! [20:56] lmao [20:56] slackware_bob (n=slackwar@adsl-76-249-229-126.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:56] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:56] my system is royally fucked since upgrading an old -current to 13.0 [20:57] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-76-179-231-3.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:57] dartmouth: awww... sounds like a system wipe [20:58] too late [20:58] linux desperately need btrfs [20:58] well why bother with "upgrade" in first place, isn't backup data/reformat/install/restore data easier/faster/safer, etc? [20:59] mbohun: good plan [21:00] mbohun, it's certainly not easier or faster [21:00] nachox: yeah. i'm waiting for the day rhel/sles will carry it [21:00] tell me about it - i use slack exclusively since 1996 [21:00] that will be a good indication that btrfs is ready [21:01] nachox: i m all ear for the "simpler" upgrade procedure :-) [21:02] (my way is not only simpler, but one can even smoke a joint or dring beer/wine while the installation is in progress :-) ) [21:02] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-76-179-231-3.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:02] ananke, after that linux might finally get something like solaris' new liveupdate [21:03] i haven't tried solaris in a while [21:03] perlsyntax (n=perlsynt@adsl-69-210-135-71.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] besides, i remember once, hmm 2-3 years ago - when the slamd64 project started, their slack installer was broken - and did not format partitions, i found out only when the installation finished and i found bunch of old files lying around [21:03] nachox: that would be nice [21:04] How much space do i need for my partitions? [21:04] on a 80 hard drive [21:04] perlsyntax, just use one big partition for everything [21:04] how would i do that [21:05] i never done that before. [21:05] ? [21:06] have you ever installed linux before? [21:06] slackware specifically? [21:06] not slackware [21:06] anything else? [21:06] perlsyntax: it might be a good idea to create 1 swap partition too - for suspend to disk (i m not sure how well does that feature work with swapfiles) [21:07] on ubuntu i had 2 [21:07] hmm, wasn't he trolling here last night? [21:07] one for swap and one for / ? [21:07] you can use fdisk to partition your drive, or if you are into kinki fetishes gui tools , use gparted that is GUI tool [21:07] actually use cfdisk, fdisk is harder and less reliable [21:08] how do i use the gparted to just type gparted? [21:08] cfdisk is easier [21:08] no gparted is a little live cd distro, with (gnome?) gui, etc. [21:08] i see [21:09] if you have an ubuntu cd already you can use that to create your partitions [21:09] if you dont want to mess with fdisk or cfdisk [21:09] again use cfdisk as part of your slackware install procedure, it's really easy [21:09] has anyone noticed width on the screen get smaller if you get into a screen? [21:10] that work [21:10] thank for the tip [21:11] nachox: thats really not the best of practices [21:11] either of those [21:11] use fdisk, and use a separate partition for /home, and probably one for /tmp [21:11] which one? [21:11] i just made one big one [21:12] [in bed] [21:12] one for /tmp? one for /home? [21:12] hehe [21:12] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [21:12] he laughs like it's not better than one big partition [21:13] /tmp certainly isnt [21:13] thats week one or two type shit dude :P [21:13] well if your running a server with a bunch of remote users then yes a /home partition would be wise [21:13] dartmouth: elaborate please, does it make any sense to have many partitions on a laptop ? of course everyone understand why a server machine is going to have /var/log mounted on a separate partition or even a separate drive, but what benefits are we getting on laptops/desktops? [21:13] /tmp should be a tmpfs filesystem [21:13] and ideally /home should be an nfs mounted filesystem somewhere else with proper backups in place in your network [21:14] mrpwner (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-ufxsnowgdqnerrwr) left irc: "leaving" [21:14] nah man just put all that junk in samba. [21:14] oh, please, dont [21:14] :P [21:15] samba doesnt support unix attributes [21:15] it does [21:15] im just giving you a hard time [21:15] nachox: cifs does. you may be thinking of smbfs [21:15] ananke, symlinks and all that too? [21:15] nachox: yep [21:15] ownerships, permissions, etc [21:15] interesting, i didnt know that [21:16] most people live in 1995 :) [21:16] nachox: not to mention cifs is much faster than smbfs [21:16] i loved the 90s [21:16] 1996 was the best [21:16] i didnt [21:16] i soberd up then [21:16] and much slower than nfs? :) [21:16] i dont really like the idea of /home being on nfs [21:17] that sounds slow [21:17] really slow [21:18] nachox: not at all. speed is very close [21:18] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [21:18] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:19] ruben23 (n=RPL@122.55.48.243) left irc: "Leaving." [21:19] ananke, not in my experience, but you have more experience with cifs than i do [21:20] so ugggh [21:20] there's a bug in the new mesa [21:20] making me unable to use my xorg [21:22] not that anyone *cares*. I just thought I'd put that out there. [21:22] lol [21:23] GINMF [21:25] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.133.86) joined ##slackware. [21:29] dogsoul (i=doggy@root.slackbox.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:29] perlsyntax (n=perlsynt@adsl-69-210-135-71.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:31] nachox: @tmpfs - it is not that easy, tmpfs is limited in size, for example my laptop has only 2gb RAM, even if it was all given to tmpfs, if an app tries to use it for example to store a download that is bigger than available mem you are out of luck, and second, while tmpfs is fast (in theory) in order to take advantage of the speed - apps would have to use /tmp - if they don't you are out of luck - not much speed improvement [21:32] hey fire|bird [21:33] dogsoul (i=doggy@root.slackbox.org) joined ##slackware. [21:33] mbohun, if you need more than 2gb in /tmp, then you should probably be using /var/tmp [21:33] hi Reticenti [21:33] hows it going? havent seen you much lately [21:33] i was naively expecting speed improvement of firefox/flash performance after i mounted my /tmp on tmpfs [21:33] going great, thanks. you? I'm just putting osol in a VM. [21:34] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.133.86) left irc: "Leaving" [21:34] nachox: it does not matter what mount point you use - tmpfs is limited in size by the amount of available RAM [21:34] in other words i would need to buy more RAM [21:34] doing good myself, havent had many problems recently, (on a record of 6 days uptime) [21:34] mbohun, /var/tmp should not be a tmpfs backed filesystem [21:35] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] corvo_ (n=corvo@199.205.35.201.res.dyn.netvision.com.br) joined ##slackware. [21:36] nachox: i know that, i was just commenting on your previous statement that /tmp should be mounted on tmpfs [21:36] waluyo (n=lrenyah@222.124.207.250) joined ##slackware. [21:37] i still think it should [21:38] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-77-217.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:38] user2438 (n=user4592@adsl-99-139-140-183.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:38] hey MLanden, how are you? [21:38] Howdy,slackers.....How's everyone? [21:39] heya,fire|bird....doin' fine thanks and yourself? [21:39] MLanden: doing great, thank you. [21:40] fire|bird: good t'hear...messin' with anything new? [21:41] MLanden: not so much, no. I have Fedora in a VM now, and just working to get osol in a VM as well (although I do have it on an hdd already) [21:41] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: No route to host [21:42] fire|bird: awesome [21:44] Nothing (n=algorith@adsl-209-78-17-56.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:44] can anyone else generate certs with /etc/ssl/misc/CA.pl ? [21:45] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [21:46] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [21:47] Billtoo_ (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016729.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:49] ./CA.pl -newcert [21:49] seems to work [21:50] corvo (n=corvo@199.205.35.201.res.dyn.netvision.com.br) joined ##slackware. [21:50] paparulo (n=g3nk0@92.56.130.140) joined ##slackware. [21:51] Scuzz: mine is failing with bad decrypt [21:51] hrm [21:51] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-16-29.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:52] i was runing -newca [21:52] ill try it [21:52] maybe that's the problem [21:52] running [21:52] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@207.216.16.29) joined ##slackware. [21:53] quit [21:53] exit [21:53] corvo (n=corvo@199.205.35.201.res.dyn.netvision.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [21:53] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.214) joined ##slackware. [21:54] -newca also works [21:54] newcert worked [21:54] newca didn't [21:54] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:55] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.133.86) joined ##slackware. [21:56] paparulo (n=g3nk0@92.56.130.140) left ##slackware. [21:57] paparulo (n=g3nk0@92.56.130.140) joined ##slackware. [21:57] paparulo (n=g3nk0@92.56.130.140) left ##slackware. [21:57] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:00] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.133.86) left irc: "Leaving" [22:02] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [22:03] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [22:06] hrmmm...bot still not banning root users properly [22:06] W|GGL|T: nachox told me you guys aren't banning users logging in as root anymore [22:07] i did [22:07] we never stopped, from what i understand [22:07] actually we did [22:07] there's still one in place that is 800+ days old [22:08] not all ops on the same sheet of music, sounds like [22:08] it really makes no sense to ban root users, as slackware doesnt create a regular user by default [22:08] Does it still have the notice posting with the ban as it did ... well, back in 2004 for sure? [22:08] nachox: that's not exactly safe [22:08] regardless of slack [22:08] W|GGL|T, yes, but new users usually have problems as soon as they install slackware [22:09] and having them create a new user only to join here to work on their problem sounds like a silly solution [22:09] giuppy_ (n=giuppy@host202-162-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [22:09] just as silly as it is for them to irc as root to begin with, imo [22:10] are we making an effort to educate them? [22:10] Action: Dominian IRCs as Administrator [22:10] oh wait... [22:10] hehe [22:10] Action: Dominian is an edumacated irc'r [22:11] and it kinda sucks for something like this to not be passed to all the opers [22:11] giuppy (n=giuppy@87.15.38.237) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [22:12] There was at one time a notice which displayed with the root ban telling them to create a normal user account blah ... I thought that was good. [22:12] W|GGL|T: how about just sending them a notice or privmsg instead of banning.? [22:12] i dont know who unset it in the bot, i think it got unset long ago and nobody set it back [22:12] Hrm.. [22:13] can I make an observation? [22:13] paissad-acer (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:13] xdoctor (n=avs@201.78.226.242) joined ##slackware. [22:13] mingdao: 3 of the 4 root bans currently say that [22:13] Instead of an outright ban... you *could* do somethng with a quiet [22:13] good [22:13] it's a free world [22:13] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.214) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [22:13] Dominian, unless you piss me off of course [22:13] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:13] wow [22:13] mssage or notice them "hey message an OPer: /msg chanserv access ##slackware list" They will explain why the quiet was put in place blah blah blah or what not [22:14] nachox: NEVAH! [22:14] that pretty much sums up this channel lately [22:14] Action: Dominian opens up IM and spams nachox [22:14] antiwire: meaning? [22:14] Dominian, :P [22:15] Dominian: the only problem with that would be that all the opers get constant messages, even when they are not here. Perhaps unavoidable. [22:15] BP{k}: ok.. another solution: ##slackware-ops [22:15] put forward bans in place rather than outright bans from ##slackware [22:15] something a long the lines of: /mode +b user!nick@hostmask!##slackware-ops [22:16] and I'm just making suggestions feel free to totally ignore them hehe [22:16] funnily enough, i think that channel actually existed at one point [22:16] ./ignore Dominian [22:16] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:16] hehe [22:16] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:16] 10:08 ::: Channel ##slackware-ops created Thu Oct 15 10:15:55 2009 [22:17] o.O [22:17] Action: agentc0re reads scroll log..... [22:17] paissad-acer (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Client Quit [22:17] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [22:18] nachox: Well, imho, it would work in your favor really [22:18] could still "enforce" the root user issue, but give them an alternative :) [22:19] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [22:20] most interesting point out of this seems to be: does slackware installer at any point suggest creating a normal user account? quite honestly, i can't remember ever seeing that [22:20] brb [22:20] ananke: it does not [22:20] I have thought of suggesting it to Pat. [22:21] and my sweet&sour pork marinating smells awesome... [22:21] lol [22:21] hum [22:21] i am having some "chinese" food myself. Sesame chicken! :P [22:21] ananke: no.. it has you set a root password.. outside of that.. no suggestion to create a normal account I don't think [22:21] Action: mingdao will probably have Chinese food, also [22:22] if anybody watches 'good eats', i just got 'good eats - the early years'. all recipes from first 6 seasons [22:22] good find,ananke [22:22] and comes with a fold out poster, that's going to my office :) [22:23] looks like a 50's sci-fi movie poster [22:23] ananke: too bad it's not just a center fold. :P [22:24] haha [22:24] heh [22:24] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.35.158) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:24] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.35.158) joined ##slackware. [22:24] "Ooo.. my goodness.. is that the cupcake from the July '09 issue... *drool*" [22:25] http://img.foodnetwork.com/FOOD/2009/10/05/Good-Eats_97951J_s3x4.jpg [22:25] lol....guess it's better to have food printed on the wall then to actually have FOOD on the wall..:D [22:25] Who needs lotion when you have hand whipped frosting! [22:26] corvo_ (n=corvo@199.205.35.201.res.dyn.netvision.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [22:26] Oh that dude looks like one of the guys from Ghostbusters.. [22:26] Ghostbuster 3 is in the making [22:26] well they are talking about it at least :) [22:26] that's only a portion of that poster, it has lots of cool additional things [22:27] everything is being remade ;) [22:27] Dominian: ghostbuster 3 ? :O [22:28] aye [22:29] ah, the old gang will be there. [22:30] according to wiki [22:30] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:32] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-110.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] corvo_ (n=corvo@199.205.35.201.res.dyn.netvision.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:34] user2438 (n=user4592@adsl-99-139-140-183.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:35] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-76-179-231-3.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:36] arfon (n=arfon@24-155-184-76.ip.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:40] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-hmqzwqhtvyupxzyx) joined ##slackware. [22:41] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] http://omploader.org/vMmpwaA [22:42] LOL [22:42] why would you put that as your background [22:42] because i just saw the movie [22:42] and love it [22:42] heh [22:42] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-hmqzwqhtvyupxzyx) left irc: Client Quit [22:43] jeev jeev [22:43] hey [22:43] having fun with firebug ? [22:44] dchmelik (n=d@66.243.235.148) joined ##slackware. [22:44] oh crap forgot to charge my camera [22:44] yea [22:44] see ya [22:44] cool [22:44] ? [22:44] gotta go now, night [22:44] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:45] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-178.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:51] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-110.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:54] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-93-66-190.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:56] mipz0r (n=guilherm@189.6.150.148) joined ##slackware. [22:56] slackie (n=x@87.196.81.25) left irc: "Papaver Somniferum" [22:57] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [22:59] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-77-217.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:01] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.150.184) joined ##slackware. [23:04] waluyo (n=lrenyah@222.124.207.250) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:07] later guys, off to sleep [23:07] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.35.158) left irc: "Leaving" [23:13] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.130.126) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:14] joannis (n=joannis@net-80-253-189-213.beltav.hu) joined ##slackware. [23:18] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-tdpvkycyolrvdvwt) joined ##slackware. [23:19] slackie (n=x@87.196.81.25) joined ##slackware. [23:19] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-178.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [23:19] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:23] Where is everyone going. Ahhhhhhhhhhh [23:24] Don;t go to sleep. [23:24] hell? [23:24] toastyto1st: Ah, so they've went to Ubuntu? :P [23:24] perhaps [23:25] What do I do if my Windows calculator box for email stops do stuff like it should. [23:25] Nick change: toastyto1st -> toastytoast [23:25] initself (n=initself@wsip-98-174-154-206.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:25] What am I to do? [23:25] j/k [23:25] mesa_booger (n=mesa_boo@unaffiliated/mesa-booger/x-2567591) left irc: [23:27] waluyo (n=lrenyah@222.124.207.250) joined ##slackware. [23:27] windows calculator? wouldn't you be using that under windows? gross. [23:29] no, he installed it in wine. :P [23:29] where can I find the files that get called when I do something like #include in c++? [23:29] headers? [23:29] yeah, where can I find them all? [23:30] mesa_booger (n=mesa_boo@unaffiliated/mesa-booger/x-2567591) joined ##slackware. [23:30] i wanna look through the code =/ [23:31] cat /var/log/packages/kernel-headers-2.6.29.6_smp-x86-2 (if you are on 13 x86) [23:32] that's just the .h files, where can I find the class member functions? [23:33] the actual code for the member functions [23:34] Nick change: Kiboney -> RuffusTheBubbleL [23:34] firebird kde or xfce? [23:34] Im compiling dolphin-emu and that returns: "Plugin_VideoOGL must have cg and cggl to be build." what is missing to install here? i didn't found cg/cggl packages. from here: http://code.google.com/p/dolphin-emu/wiki/Linux_dependencies [23:35] Nick change: RuffusTheBubbleL -> RuffusTheFishBub [23:35] "Looking for lib Cg... no" [23:36] acidtripper: I'm using xfce right now. [23:36] \o/ [23:36] no kde anymore? [23:36] mesa_booger (n=mesa_boo@unaffiliated/mesa-booger/x-2567591) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:37] Reticenti: It's still there, I just haven't logged into it this week at all. [23:37] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:37] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-134-191.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [23:38] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [23:38] but installed all slack stuff? [23:39] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:39] hm Cg toolkit on nvidia developer zone [23:40] Isn't Cg CUDA now? [23:40] dunno [23:41] I will try that: http://developer.nvidia.com/object/cg_download.html [23:41] Nick change: RuffusTheFishBub -> Kiboney [23:42] where are gcc's libaries? I'm trying to look at the source for the string library [23:42] in the library folder maybe :D [23:43] in /lib? [23:43] usr lib gcc [23:43] or usr lib64 gcc maybe [23:43] i dunno [23:44] here /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-slackware-linux/4.3.3/ [23:45] like when I do #include i want to look at the actual code for the member functions, not just the .h file... [23:45] grep -ni gcc /var/log/packages/* | less [23:45] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [23:47] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [23:47] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.25.250) joined ##slackware. [23:47] sneeedle (n=sneeedle@6532183hfc245.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:48] mesa_booger (n=mesa_boo@unaffiliated/mesa-booger/x-2567591) joined ##slackware. [23:48] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.22) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:48] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.134) joined ##slackware. [23:49] yumm warm sake.. [23:50] agentc0re: damn you [23:50] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-134-191.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:50] lol, that's a first. [23:50] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:50] now I am forced to find a good beer :) [23:51] BP{k}: are you much of a wine drinker? [23:51] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:51] agentc0re: I prefer beer, but I don't turn a good glass of wine down and I like it good enough :) [23:51] BP{k}: have you ever had Port before? [23:52] agentc0re: yes. [23:52] both kethry and me, adore port. :) [23:52] BP{k}: I was just introduced to it last weekend... bought a bottle of it yesterday. that stuff is tasty. [23:52] it's really good. [23:52] agentc0re: see if you can get some blue-veined cheese to go with it. [23:52] heh, i've gone from port to sake tonight. :P [23:53] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:53] i just prefer jack [23:53] something like a stilton or a rocquefort goes *Very* well with silton [23:53] mesa_booger (n=mesa_boo@unaffiliated/mesa-booger/x-2567591) left irc: Client Quit [23:54] sneeedle: nah, a good single malt is better. ;) Although admittedly I would love to get my hands on a bottle of Marker's MArk bourbon. [23:55] markers mark is some good stuff too [23:55] sounds expensive. [23:55] gotta be careful though, itll sneak up on you and give you a swift kick in the ass [23:56] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-51-105.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [23:56] hm a bottle should go for about £ 25,- [23:57] I think I paid around $25usd for a 375ml bottle [23:57] maybe less [23:57] akira42 (i=1001@91.64.159.112) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [23:59] agentc0re: but I mostly prefer wine to go with a good meal and port like after ... :) beer is good for any time of the day ;) [00:00] --- Thu Oct 15 2009