[00:00] is your interface name wlan0? [00:00] yeah [00:00] run this: ls /sys/class/net/wlan0/device/driver/module/drivers/ | cut -d : -f 2 | tr -d \\100 [00:00] that should spit out the module name [00:00] rt61pci [00:05] Guest37820 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-178.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [00:05] last time it happened, i couldnt connect to the samba server either, so I think the entire system is getting dropped [00:06] Reticenti: Just a quick search through google shows that you aren't the only one experiencing problems with that driver and the issues seem to happen across multiple versions of the driver too [00:07] hmm [00:07] did you see any [solved] tags? [00:07] It's not my system, you go look now [00:08] ok [00:08] antiwire: pong. I need *all* the details on this SlackAP project. :) [00:08] chopp: hahaha [00:08] and it's been more than five hours. :P [00:08] chopp: EAP is working perfectly [00:09] awsome! [00:09] I need to get an atheros PCI card so I can setup my server as the AP and stop using my laptop for tests [00:09] I got dnsmasq + hostapd on my laptop, acting as an AP [00:10] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-86-162.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:10] chopp: My main issue was confusion about how the CA, server and client certs worked but I got it figured out now [00:11] however, for each client I have to use the CA to generate a new cert and then copy the certs to the clients [00:11] yeah it's been awhile since I set it up. I'd have to refresh my memory on it for sure. :) [00:12] My next big thing is figuring out if hostapd's RADIUS can push the certs to the clients automagically or if I have to switch to a full RADIUS server OR if I'm just plain out stuck doing it manually [00:13] you probably keep better notes than I do on some of this stuff. But I am getting better. Yeah I never did do the seperate radius server. [00:13] I want to be able to say create a single master client cert and user account information for RADIUS. then when people try to connect they need a RADIUS account and after that the cert gets pushed out [00:13] chopp: I'm going to make a slackwiki entry for this [00:13] everything I've done [00:14] antiwire: awsome. I definately look forward to reading that. [00:14] My ultimate goal is to make this as easy as possible, to us EAP TLS on a linux AP and have windows and linux clients [00:16] but but, can't we just use a whitelist? :P [00:16] lol [00:16] antiwire: Isn't the only point of issuing a cert to simply say, "Hey this is who i am". Why else would you need to? [00:16] agentc0re: in this case, the PKI certs are used for TLS/SSL encryption for the wireless instead of normal WPA [00:17] I have a spare box for such an endeavor. I should play with the seperate radius server. [00:17] chopp: it's a lotta work, but probably the best way wouldn't you agree? Obviously dependent on what you are doing. [00:17] Oh most definately. [00:17] antiwire: ah. didn't know that was possible. [00:17] agentc0re: yep, it's called WPA-EAP instead [00:18] aka WPA-ENTERPRISE [00:18] antiwire: I have a radius server setup at work but i have it integrated with active directory. So only windows users that are apart of a certain group are allowed to connect. [00:18] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [00:18] I'm probably going to check out FreeRADIUS [00:18] Action: godling waves [00:18] I wouldn't mind messing with AD and all this either [00:19] antiwire: I'm glad the ath5k AP thing finaly got straightened out so you *could* get this going. [00:19] antiwire: i tried doing the certification, because i thought all it did was say where it was coming from, but i couldn't get it to work correctly. I still have to manually uncheck the verify cert checkbox when configuring any wireless config for my users. [00:19] chopp: boy hell yes. It's working well now [00:19] \o/ [00:19] antiwire: windows server comes with everything you need. it's called, IAS. [00:20] Last time I setup IAS was probably 8-10 years ago in a windows 2000 server boot camp I did [00:20] Action: chopp throws up a little in his mouth. [00:20] haha [00:20] I'll need to buy some more books. [00:20] that's really the main reason I got a real job, book money ;) [00:20] LMAO!! That's what most of my domain consists of. [00:21] book and slackware merch money [00:21] muhahaha [00:21] I am praying that fbi job comes through. [00:21] That would certainly be awesome [00:21] You'll be a G-man, sort of [00:21] heh. [00:22] Well IAS is easy.... too easy, and that's a good thing. [00:22] agentc0re: FBI? [00:23] godling: Ya a Sys/net admin position popped up here where i live for the fbi. [00:23] I think that after going through this CA setup using openssl, IAS shouldn't be too bad to figure out [00:23] when's the proctological exam? [00:23] or has it happened already? [00:23] agentc0re: ^^ [00:24] antiwire: i'll have to bug you about the CA setup... i've been meaning to try to incorporate that with IAS so i don't have to change any settings when a user try's to connect to the wireless when they have perm's. [00:24] s/try's/tries [00:24] godling: eh? [00:24] agentc0re: security check [00:24] godling: Oh shit, i knew i should have mentioned that. I've had a security clearance before. [00:24] shit. [00:25] oops [00:25] you forgot to tell them? [00:25] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.3(devel)"). [00:25] agentc0re: I bet you could create a Linux CA cert and then sign that with the AD cert to use it as a trusted cert [00:25] I don't know how but I'm sure it's do able [00:25] ya. it's not active anymore and was only for two years once i was approved. it was for being close to the president. [00:26] which president? [00:26] antiwire: Hrm.. Didn't think of using one of my linux boxes as a CA to issue the cert. i'll look into how that's done tomorrow. [00:26] "Roosevelt!" "How old are you?!" [00:26] antiwire: btw, when do you start? [00:27] tuesday [00:27] nice [00:27] 3 months of training ;) should be fun [00:27] godling: bush, first time through. [00:27] antiwire: pack a flask! :D [00:27] i always do. [00:27] someone wanna play world of padman online? [00:27] WoP? [00:28] antiwire: have you put together a freeradius slackbuild yet? [00:28] sounds like a derogatory term. :P [00:28] I'm more of a data network person and they know that. My title is "Converged Telecommunications Technician", I'll be working on networks that are a mix of VoIP and data [00:28] agentc0re: people use fobs all the time ;P [00:28] chopp: nope, not yet [00:29] chopp: I had started before, then ath5k blew up on me and I got mad at it all [00:29] antiwire: I see one here in my stash, but looks like I never did build it. [00:29] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:30] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:30] ati or nvidia for slack12.2/13 & obsd compatibility ? [00:31] nvidia [00:31] I don't know really [00:31] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [00:32] yes [00:32] compatible emeau [00:32] www.nvidia.com [00:32] download>drivers>linux [00:33] ok :) [00:33] thanks :) [00:33] I use nvidia drivers for my laptop but I have no obsd experience [00:33] well, it have many chances to work :) [00:34] yes, bsd [00:34] as i remember nvidia saind BSD/nvidia drivers [00:34] and many macs use nvidia cards and macos is bsd [00:34] so [00:34] take your conclusions [00:34] :) [00:35] acidtripper, "saind BSD/nvidia drivers" ? [00:36] said [00:36] oh, nvm [00:36] nvidia page says bsd/linux drivers [00:36] for the bins [00:36] oh, I was following the convo [00:36] and as i know nvidia is compatible with bsd [00:36] I wasn't* :) [00:37] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:37] acidtripper, I thought you were saying something about the quality of nvidia's bsd drivers [00:37] lee555J5_ (n=irchon@71.91.2.18) joined ##slackware. [00:37] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:38] was thinking about giving freebsd a shot on my other pc, but there's no x86_64 nvidia drivers for *bsd [00:38] there is 64bits compiled bsd [00:38] ? [00:39] lee555J5_ (n=irchon@71.91.2.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:39] not that the bsd 32-bit drivers are bad, it's just that it goes to show they don't care as much about bsd.. which might equate to a lesser polished driver [00:39] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:39] acidtripper, no 64-bit nvidia driver [00:39] but there is any bsd64? [00:40] acidtripper, unless it's changed recently nvidia offers 32&64-bit nvidia drivers for linux whereas only 32-bit for *bsd [00:40] can you answear what i ask you? [00:40] there is any bsd64? [00:41] acidtripper, if I understand you correctly, you're asking if there are 64-bit ports of the BSDs? [00:41] yea [00:41] acidtripper, pretty sure for all free, open, and net [00:42] acidtripper, sorry if there was any confusion... BSD has 64-bit ports.. it's just the binary nvidia drivers for BSD aren't compiled/created for 64-bit [00:42] i understunded [00:42] understood [00:42] :P [00:43] but i hadn't heard about any 64bits bsd but now i [00:43] I read something a few weeks back that they're fixing mmap in the freebsd kernel (in 8-CURRENT or some shit like that?) so that nvidia will be able to write 64-bit drivers [00:44] !wiki [00:44] are u using bsd? [00:45] orca? [00:45] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2006-June/016995.html oh wow, this is an email from a nvidia developer (presumably) to the freebsd mailing list about what needs to go into freebsd to make the 32-bit driver on par with linux and make a 64-bit one possible [00:46] acidtripper, no, slackware of course :P [00:46] uhh [00:46] me archlinux [00:48] acidtripper, what brings you to ##slackware? :) [00:49] apparently i installed deb once (found on unused partition) [00:50] i always used slack [00:50] I had debian running on a mips virtual machine once [00:50] and now im in arch [00:50] oneman (n=oneman@c-69-137-158-194.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:50] becouse of packages [00:50] hi [00:50] with qem [00:50] *qemu [00:50] hello oneman [00:50] Fresh install of slackware 13 [00:50] Avahi doesn't work [00:50] acidtripper, how long have you been using arch? [00:51] want it for local messaging with kopete [00:51] what am I to do? [00:51] oneman: what do you mean by "doesn't work"? [00:51] I think that's in some of the error messages that popup when you start KDE4 on a fresh install [00:52] well at least for me, some avahi, anakondi, whatever couldn't/wouldn't load [00:52] avahi isn't in stock slackware, it's on slackbuilds.org [00:52] mancha: you were the one helping my with iptables last night, right? [00:52] blackorca: that would be akonadi [00:52] fire|bird, ah, well then nevermind what I just said :) [00:53] lol [00:53] well; it's all going away; find -delete [00:55] hmm; gentoo found too [00:56] Quiznos: how many unused partitions do you have? ;P [00:56] inman (n=inman@tmo-101-41.customers.d1-online.com) joined ##slackware. [00:56] well "unused" isnt quite right; they are parts on hd from when i was in Pennsy [00:57] i brought the hd down to fla with me when I left; everything else is in storage. [00:57] hd's [00:57] several [00:57] antiwire: freeradius built successfully. [00:58] awesome [00:59] I had some avocado last night, which I am allergic to. Apparently, what I thought was pesto butter was actually avocado butter [00:59] not good. [00:59] I've been sort of fscked up all day [01:00] wow..not good is right. How does it effect you? [01:00] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:01] If I eat a few full slices of avocado I'll be barfing in 6 hours [01:01] luckily, the amount of it in the butter is small but it was enough to give me a slight fever and intestinal mayhem [01:02] Thom1 (n=thom1@79.87.118.133) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [01:02] I had a few allergies when I was young, but thankfully grew out of them. [01:02] antiwire did you lick the skin of the fruit? [01:02] kinky! [01:03] heh; seriously :) [01:03] Quiznos: nope, the meat of the avocado does it [01:03] Quiznos: did you successfully upgrade? [01:03] x works [01:03] opera still has prob tho [01:03] probs [01:03] antiwire can you provide more detail to avo. prob? [01:04] Quiznos: If I eat avocodo, whole or guacamole or whatever, I get sick [01:04] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:04] if? you mean when :) [01:05] antiwire any similar response to other food? [01:05] my mouth and throat will tingle if I eat whole pieces or quacamole and about 4-6 hours later, it all comes up [01:05] nope, no other food allergies but my mother is deathly allergic to egg protein [01:05] k [01:06] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [01:06] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-13-152.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:06] Our family doesn't have many health problems beside allergies [01:06] Jullyend (n=jully@201.15.54.35) left irc: No route to host [01:06] k [01:07] antiwire .eu? [01:07] US [01:07] centuries? [01:07] north america, for centuries yeah [01:07] kool [01:07] ok; i find physiology fascinating [01:08] i was a child statistic for allergen shots; damned useless things and the bendryl they flooded me with [01:08] benadryl [01:08] oh god benadryl [01:08] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-13-152.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:08] ok; so, all allergies are the body's response to foreign/unknown matter in the body. [01:08] yep [01:09] "ill" is the mucous and constipation of the immune system responding to foreign matter [01:09] in the case of my mom, she lacks an enzyme that most people have that deals with egg protein [01:09] the heat of fever is caused by friction of fluids and cells moving about. [01:09] and you dont get a cold by being cold :) [01:09] (for good measure :) [01:09] heh [01:09] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-145-245.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:09] inman (n=inman@tmo-101-41.customers.d1-online.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:10] ok [01:10] You get a cold by licking door knobs [01:10] lol [01:10] So in the event you do, wash your tongue with soap. :P [01:10] as for you, i'm thinking just bad fruit from a particular region that is imported into your area. [01:10] imported regularly. [01:11] lol...comes into a room where people are licking things [01:11] Quiznos: It could be, I was also thinking that it was a GM issue. My mother said I wasn't always allergic to them [01:11] MLanden: Welcome. [01:11] Quiznos: could be GM or even specific strains [01:11] MLanden: How's it going? [01:11] thanks,fire|bird [01:11] well, rhinoviri is the "cold" that people get, it's just the body's response to foreign matter in body that collects as mucous. [01:11] Just relaxin',is all fire|bird [01:12] antiwire yea, but how long have you experienced this response? [01:12] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:12] taking drugs to reduce mucous for "cold" is nonsense. take a hot shower to expel mucous [01:12] Quiznos: The first time I make the correlation between getting violently ill and having consumed avocado was about 10 years ago. [01:12] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [01:12] true....good hot steam [01:12] make/made [01:12] antiwire ok; so GM is possibility [01:13] i dont have a Aspirine deficiency any more either [01:13] lol [01:13] that's interesting antiwire [01:13] after I the first time I thought 'hey maybe it was the avo" I went and ate a hole one alone....badbad bad [01:13] avocado is a carribean fruit, right? [01:13] hole/whole [01:14] lol; well that's what a good skientist would do [01:14] typos are bad tongiht [01:14] ffs; fat finger syndrome [01:14] lol [01:14] heh [01:14] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:15] antiwire google Arnold Ehret re mucus/constip [01:16] antiwire in recent years there's been a development of correlation tween blood type and diet; that's why i asked Q in PM [01:16] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [01:17] got it, and that doesn't surprise me at all. We are basically hybriding and by doing so we end up losing gene diversity [01:17] nods [01:17] in humans i mean [01:18] well the pooch dont care [01:18] i've pretty much rm'd corn and variants from my diet [01:18] that's not food anymore [01:20] you should try eating other people [01:20] they've got electrolytes [01:21] nah; not into soylent (hateful concept) [01:21] does anyone have some basic puppet configs that work well with slack by default? [01:21] what's puppet? [01:21] 'bout to ask the same thng [01:21] stop twiddling [01:21] used for managing a bunch of servers at once iirc [01:22] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [01:22] configuration manage ment [01:23] would like to sync up my desktop, laptop, server, etc and start with some basic stuff slack uses by default [01:25] aaaa [01:25] anyone use their laptop 24/7? [01:26] could this have some future problems? [01:26] like what? [01:26] hard drive dying? [01:26] mm i dont know [01:26] yeah [01:26] battery too [01:26] or overheating [01:26] battery's going to go at some point. remove it if you don't want to cycle it [01:26] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: "Damn Programmers" [01:27] yes but apart from battery [01:27] won't overheat unless you're blocking the ventilation [01:27] someone using conky? [01:27] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [01:28] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [01:28] enable laptop mode in the kernel and move your syslog stuff to tmpfs and that'll be halfway to saving your drive [01:33] rrh_ (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:37] inman (n=inman@tmo-101-41.customers.d1-online.com) joined ##slackware. [01:39] psypete, laptop mode? [01:39] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: "Bye!" [01:39] heh [01:39] kejen (n=none@206.191.246.134) joined ##slackware. [01:40] or just turn off syslog? [01:41] night,slackers...take care [01:41] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-145-245.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:41] nn [01:45] kejen (n=none@206.191.246.134) left irc: [01:45] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:48] inman (n=inman@tmo-101-41.customers.d1-online.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:48] inman (n=inman@tmo-101-41.customers.d1-online.com) joined ##slackware. [01:48] Lateraluzi (n=Lateralu@pool-74-106-202-64.syrcny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:49] kejen (n=none@206.191.246.134) joined ##slackware. [01:49] join #centos [01:49] antiwire: looking back at my notes for this, I also was manually copying the certs. Looks like it took me a bit to figure out hostapd.eap_user, but I did. :P [01:50] chopp: yeah, that hostapd.eap_user file threw me off a bit too [01:51] I'll let you know sometime later this week if I have any luck with the freeradius. [01:51] awesome, I'm working on windows clients right now [01:51] inman (n=inman@tmo-101-41.customers.d1-online.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:51] using the manual cert import method. I want to just make it all work manually first [01:52] for sure. [01:54] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:57] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-68-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:57] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:57] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:00] mank (n=jerware@70.44.195.123) joined ##slackware. [02:00] hi [02:00] is it possible to install an rpm on slackware ? [02:01] not directly [02:01] and you wouldnt want to, but you can [02:01] ok [02:01] mank: if you can avoid using rpms, then do. [02:01] otherwise, rpm2tgz [02:01] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [02:02] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:02] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [02:03] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [02:04] hm kde 4.3.1 [02:06] blackorca: look in kernel documentation for laptop [02:06] it tweaks the system to extend battery life. combined with a sample shell script can tune various parameters on ACPI events like battery-mode, so you can automatically tune the system if you're not on AC [02:07] kejen (n=none@206.191.246.134) left irc: [02:07] but you could keep it on with AC to preserve the disk [02:07] and just disable the cpu throttling [02:07] psypete, ah, well I was just wondering if you meant one particular option.. I'm aware of the others for laptops,thanks though [02:07] Man-erg (n=meck@93.40.121.238) left irc: "leaving" [02:07] it's stuff like this i want to put into puppet, so i can just have it automatically take effect on laptop-style systems [02:08] instead of having patch files per system [02:09] /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode [02:09] enable delayed writebacks [02:09] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:10] the accompanying script does more tho [02:12] http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7539 [02:13] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-131-203.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:13] i kinda like that block_dump feature. may make debugging strange server i/o easier [02:14] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD883D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:16] Thom1 (n=thom1@133.118.87-79.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [02:17] hi people [02:17] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [02:20] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [02:23] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [02:24] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-zjszwvjfeeltbcyk) joined ##slackware. [02:32] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-42.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:34] flvr (i=0@host-93-182-19-84.real.kvidex.net) joined ##slackware. [02:35] redtricycle (n=redtricy@ppp-68-122-73-90.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:35] Does slackware13 have qt4? [02:36] yes [02:36] sweet [02:36] redtricycle: no, kde4 uses qt3. what did you think? [02:38] o_o [02:38] darn [02:38] I guess Slackbuild13 just didnt update its qt4 yet [02:38] redtricycle: yes, it does. don't pay attention to spook [02:38] fire|bird: SARCASM [02:38] redtricycle: qt4 is pretty much part of kde4 [02:39] Okay, thanks [02:39] spook: I know that, but not everyone does. :) [02:39] I never upgrade (except for versioned Slackware) [02:39] and patches... [02:39] so I'm out of the loop; I only need qt4 to compile KeePassX [02:39] redtricycle: if you have kde4 installed/working, then you have qt4. [02:42] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-wranweuxyytlsfca) joined ##slackware. [02:42] greetings, greetings, :( i hate mondays..:( why can it not just be friday? [02:44] doesn't feel like a monday yet [02:46] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [02:49] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-131-203.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:52] it's barely monday [02:53] by 51 mins [02:53] i'm garfield and i hate mondays [02:54] you hate Odie too [02:54] name nermal [02:55] mank (n=jerware@70.44.195.123) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [02:55] i'm about wage rage against windows EAP [02:56] why? [02:56] EAP = ? [02:56] mank (n=jerware@70.44.195.123.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [02:56] Eat alot of P.... [02:56] Extensible Authentication Protocol [02:57] oh right, network authentication right? [02:57] yup [02:57] hahaha [02:58] I can get Linux clients to authenticate against my Linux EAP-TLS access point and I can get my certificates recognized by windows XP pro but the damn system just won't authenticate [02:58] hmmmmmmm... [02:59] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. 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I know the certs are good because linux can connect using the same certs [03:11] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-42.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:11] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:13] I wish I could help, but I haven't tried it since. [03:20] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [03:21] puyi (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:22] i'm thinking about upgrading my storage machine with a new motherboard/cpu, ram and 4 more disks [03:22] are there devede packages? if not what other dvd authoring packages are available for slackware ? [03:24] Reav__ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [03:24] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-llhqqquiyfnyvzim) joined ##slackware. [03:25] morning all, ive been trying to get a usb install working on slackware but can only manage it with 2 sticks...is there a way to have an entire usb installation on one pendrive? cheers [03:26] rogersman: do you have any partitions? [03:26] or is slackware on one partition? [03:26] I'm asking b/c you can install off a partition [03:27] or iso [03:27] redtricycle (n=redtricy@ppp-68-122-73-90.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [03:27] you could boot with the usb and mount the iso too [03:29] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:29] copy the stuff you need to a bootable partition on the usb stick. [03:29] rogersman: you can do it with 1 [03:31] sorry, allow me to clarify...i apply the usb script in the slackware folder to create a bootable usb stick which then loads the setup program...so it's possible to partition this drive to accept the install data as well? [03:32] puyi (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [03:33] rogersman: thats the quick and dirty way. [03:34] Good night boys and girls and Swuave [03:34] rogersman: repartition a usb stick to have one large partition, mark it bootable. copy pretty much everything from the package tree/dvd image onto the usb stick, except source/ and that should work. [03:36] Good night boys and girls and godling [03:36] @spook, no need to run the usb script? [03:36] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD883D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:37] rogersman: no. [03:37] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [03:37] rogersman: the usb script dumps the ~30mb usbboot.img to the usb drive. [03:38] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: "Command not found." [03:38] interesting...ill give it a shot...cheers spook...fyi, this is quite a common question of many forums...someone might want to put this on the slackware FAQ imho [03:39] i see. [03:39] rogersman: I'll forward your request. [03:39] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@86.192.144.112) joined ##slackware. [03:41] rogersman if you get it working you could always write a post about it and place it somewhere... [03:44] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:44] it'll have to wait till i get back from work ;-) [03:45] so it is that simple then.... just format the usb-stick. copy all the slackware folders to it, and thats it? [03:45] that's fine, whenever...few "give back" by way of writing up howtos, be different [03:48] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:52] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-152-34-93.pools.spcsdns.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). 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[04:01] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:01] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [04:01] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:01] i checked out this guide yonks ago...unfortunately, the guide is still unfinished...it did seem unlikely a simple copy all to usb stick approach would work, but ill see what happens...cheers anyway tho [04:01] rogersman: it needs to be a bootable usb stick [04:02] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [04:02] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) returned to ##slackware. [04:03] Nick change: t| -> t [04:03] Possible future nick collision: t [04:03] perhaps you should read it again. 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[04:06] rachael (n=nrachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [04:07] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:08] ugh [04:08] morning ppl [04:09] morning [04:09] y0 spook [04:09] hows things [04:09] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [04:10] antiwire: that's with the blah_cert.p12 right? [04:10] could be better [04:10] but ok [04:10] you? [04:11] slept in till 1pm, had custardrum for breakfast [04:12] obnauticus (n=l@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [04:13] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-wranweuxyytlsfca) left irc: "Page closed" [04:14] RTF (i=75c838c4@gateway/web/freenode/x-aurylcunqibdzyjt) joined ##slackware. [04:15] nice [04:15] no work? [04:15] how to mount a ext4 partation at boot for normal user ( read and write) ? [04:16] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [04:19] have it in the fstab? [04:19] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [04:19] i tried that but i don't know how to make it read and write for non-root user [04:19] hi [04:19] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:21] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-jnzxbzvfvzfwzfdg) joined ##slackware. [04:21] RTF: man fstab [04:21] surrealgirl: hi jane [04:21] alisonken1noc: i have done this but filesys is mounted as read only for non-root user "/dev/sda3 /mnt/dr3 ext4 defaults " [04:21] is it a thumbdrive or some external device? [04:21] hardisk partations [04:22] RTF: yeah its read/write for normal users, but they dont have write permissions in the filesystem [04:22] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [04:22] 'ls -ld /mnt' and see what the directory permissions are [04:23] otherwise, you may also check fstab entries for additional permissions like "defaults,rw" [04:23] Rejf (i=rejf@blowfish.pl) joined ##slackware. [04:23] "drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 2009-09-12 22:34" [04:23] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-172-198-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [04:24] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:24] thats read only for non-root users [04:25] than how to make it read and write both for non-root users ??? [04:25] really? [04:26] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [04:26] RTF: its working the way you want it. you need to learn about unix filesystem permissions [04:27] spook: its working - read only i want it read and write both for normal user [04:27] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:27] RTF: its working the way you want it. you need to learn about unix filesystem permissions [04:28] RTF: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [04:28] hrm , [04:28] i can do this allllll day [04:28] I'd rather stab someone in the face. [04:28] okay [04:28] jescis_ (n=jescis@adsl-93-66-190.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:29] Dont you just love being greeted by a load average of 384 on a monday morning [04:29] Zordrak: smells like... victory [04:29] better than a load average of 1058 [04:29] Zordrak: yummy. [04:29] mmm, server napalm [04:29] my load average is .08 [04:29] INTENSE [04:29] RTF: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions#Traditional_Unix_permissions [04:30] Zordrak: your machine or the machine at work? [04:30] yea , reading that [04:30] all my machines are at about 0.30 [04:30] godling: theres a difference? [04:30] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [04:30] Zordrak: ;P [04:30] Action: godling makes a note never to steal Zordrak's ring. [04:31] I've never gotten to administer Linux machines at a job. Only Windows. [04:31] :/ [04:31] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-93-66-190.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [04:32] I'm so glad I don't understand Lord of the Rings jokes. [04:32] but you understood that it was a Lord of the Rings joke. [04:32] so there. [04:32] : [04:32] :) [04:33] >.< [04:33] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-149-57-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:33] what does the >.< emoticon mean? [04:33] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.176) left irc: "Leaving" [04:33] http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm [04:33] it is a picture [04:34] of me holding the bridge of my nose [04:34] unable even to facepalm due to the copious quantities of fail [04:34] are you trying to say I stink? [04:34] OH [04:34] I wish semantics were embedded in IRC [04:35] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [04:35] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:35] it physically hurts. I swear to god im even wearing a t-shirt that says "National Sarcasm Society. Like we need your support" [04:36] hipster [04:38] That cultural reference is lost on me [04:38] wat are "1 1 " or "1 0" in the end of a line in fstab ?? (e.g "/dev/sda2 / ext4 defaults 1 1") wat these 1 or 0 do? [04:38] RTF: http://lmgtfy.com/?=fstab [04:39] Action: quasar wonders if man fstab has any info on that :p [04:40] RTF: It's in the man page. [04:41] RTF: if you read the wikipedia article, there's a nice first line above the example fstab that indicates the number are under the dump-frequency & pass-number column. "man fstab" on that column [04:41] it means wether to fsck and the other is something that / has to have 1 and others 2 [04:41] quasar: godling: alisonken1noc: spook: dudes.. i got this :) [04:41] Zordrak: can you dynamically grow your array? [04:42] Zordrak: I missed something - what do you got? [04:42] its too morning and too monday to get you [04:42] oh yeah baby, i can dynamically grow my array! [04:42] if and in what priority [04:42] alisonken1noc: all he needed was the lmgtfy :) [04:42] Zordrak: :) [04:43] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:47] Good riddance doncaster boy :) [04:48] doncaster? [04:49] godling: http://lmgtfy.com/?=doncaster [04:49] donc. [04:49] already did [04:49] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:50] Zordrak: What part of Britain are you from? [04:51] doncaster ;) [04:51] haha [04:51] self-loathing++ [04:53] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-llhqqquiyfnyvzim) left ##slackware. [04:59] wertik_rus (i=500@95-24-249-255.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:00] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:02] godling: England [05:05] Zordrak: Ah, 'cause you were texting with a bit of a Scottish accent so... [05:05] ;P [05:06] im getting lots of security fixes mails for firefox... is that a good thing per se... [05:06] >.< - IRC != Texting [05:06] The-Croupier: "is that a good thing ..." or "that _is_ a good thing ..." ? [05:07] sorry I was just watching an article about SMS [05:07] Zordrak: thanks for that, cos sometimes scotish ppl confuse that [05:07] godling: you cant watch an article [05:07] ;P [05:07] well you could.. but it would get pretty boring [05:07] godling: man, i hope you are not english [05:07] haha [05:08] I'm just pulling Zordrak's chain [05:08] :) [05:08] alisonken1noc: well, i havent made my mind yet... [05:08] godling: you mean pull someones leg right..:p [05:08] even greek ppl know that :p [05:08] lol [05:09] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yank%20one%27s%20chain&defid=527356 [05:10] The-Croupier: People say things differently in different parts of the world, my friend. :) [05:10] godling: looks like americans..... have confused english soooo much.. [05:10] it is unrecognisable... in a bit they are going to say they speak american ;) [05:10] The-Croupier: chain-pulling is valid [05:11] its a toilet reference [05:11] Zordrak: ;) yep thats what i thought [05:11] I would say English people have muddled English over time as well. [05:11] Sort of a linguistic speciation. It's totally natural. :) [05:12] godling: not in the same amount of time americans did..... you work overtime or something?! [05:12] godling: not if theyre going to call it english its not [05:12] cats and dogs are not both called mice [05:12] CK_MonkeyLord (n=afasdfs@116.44.192.14) left irc: "Http://www.ZeroIRC.NET ΆΖ Zero IRC ΆΖ Ver 2.9G" [05:13] Zordrak: you never know... people say things different in other parts of the world my friend ;) [05:13] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [05:13] Hermann (n=Hermannn@129.16.11.72) joined ##slackware. [05:15] I suppose that did sound a little disingenuous. I won't refer to you as my friend anymore, then. :) [05:20] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@84-43-125-187.ppp.onetel.net.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:23] one of my cats is named 'mouse' :\ [05:23] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:24] quasar: do you feed it cheese? [05:24] mmm cheese. I wish I could afford cheese. [05:24] just the jalepeno stuff that comes in the can.. she loves it [05:24] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:25] quasar: you are indeed brave for feeding jalapenos to an animal sir. [05:25] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.74.29) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:25] either that or you have drop-cloths over your carpet [05:25] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:25] she's actually the only cat out of my 3 that is toilet trained [05:26] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [05:26] unless you're talking about the other end, but I haven't had any problems with that [05:26] quasar: does she know how to flush? [05:27] nah [05:27] I've tried a couple different methods to teach her how to flush, I think she doesn't like the sound of the toilet flushing [05:28] nullify_ (i=n@24-183-105-235.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [05:29] seems this weekend was super-nfs-stacktrace-saturday [05:29] hence the epic loadavg [05:30] gui_ap (n=guilherm@201-68-167-33.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [05:31] godling: but you know, if I could get the other two cats to just use the toilet I'd forgive them for not flushing... sure would beat cleaning a litter box :) [05:31] heh [05:33] I don't think I am patient enough to toilet train a cat. [05:33] dogs are so much easier [05:33] they just come get you when it's time to go out [05:34] is there anybody with Intel ICH10DO southbridge, Intel Q45 northbridge and intel pentium dual e6000 processor ? [05:35] Thom1: Go away. [05:35] Thom1: Every question you ask in here is malformed, idiotic.. or just plain stupid [05:35] whay ? [05:36] Thom1: Learn how to ask well-formed questions [05:36] looks like someone's got a case of the Mondays [05:36] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [05:36] Zordrak, bad english or bad question ? [05:37] bad question [05:37] nepenthe (n=ville@YMKDCCXLII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: "quit" [05:38] and why I asked bad questions ? [05:38] Cos your parents drop you on your head a lot as a child? [05:38] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-153-33-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [05:38] godling: no, np my friend, i dont mind you calling me my friend... i just mentioned it exactly as you said it....for more emphasis on the bad english..;) lol [05:39] RTF (i=75c838c4@gateway/web/freenode/x-aurylcunqibdzyjt) left irc: "reboot" [05:39] Thom1: because you could have 1000 yes and nos...on that processor question... what is actually the question.... [05:40] what is it that you want exactly.... no beating around the bush...;) [05:40] godling: theres another English expression for you ;) [05:41] Zordrak: or they refused him a titty...and now he need to make questions.;) [05:41] Action: The-Croupier watched bad boys the other night [05:41] spectre1 (n=kyle@41.210.144.127) joined ##slackware. [05:41] The-Croupier, i thought it was a better idea to ask only one question about motherboard AND processor instead of 3. i thought someone could answer me he had the proc but the motherboard for example [05:41] oh [05:41] my [05:41] god [05:42] Thom1: i think you are still not getting it... [05:42] lets say we do have it , how can we help you then [05:42] also, lets say we dont have it ( maybe we have heard of it though, or know about it) still [05:42] how can we help you then [05:43] what is the actual question....after the i have it or not [05:43] Thom1: i think you are stuck... press ctrl+alt+del alot of times... ;) [05:43] The-Croupier: doh!!!! [05:44] alisonken1noc: dahhh!!!! [05:44] there is a good reason i red-tagged him a long time ago [05:44] alisonken1noc: i think i should have adviced the ctrl+alt+del a long time ago... [05:44] Action: The-Croupier apologises he didnt know [05:45] ok so i go to fuck me, that's what you want ? [05:45] alisonken1noc: Zordrak , im sorry [05:45] Thom1 (n=thom1@133.118.87-79.rev.gaoland.net) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [05:46] That ended poorly. [05:46] The-Croupier: not you, The-Croupier [05:46] dmnnit [05:46] The-Croupier: not you, Thom1 [05:47] Zordrak: :) [05:47] mouseclick again? [05:47] everything after his yes or no question was poor imo [05:47] ncgty (n=gui@201.86.161.22.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:48] something that i have not managed yet... i need to have a terminal in windows... a linux terminal, without having a shell at home and connecting to it, no livecds, something in the pc.. [05:49] quasar: what do you mean? im sorry i do use /clear alot ... and its a webclient [05:49] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-172-198-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:49] I mean the two of you were assholes [05:49] simple as that. [05:50] asshat is such a better insult though... [05:50] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:51] quasar: who? why? [05:51] i believe i was quiet polite in the beginning, tried to understand, then i couldnt anymore [05:52] jkwood (n=jkwood@70.87.222.16) joined ##slackware. [05:52] the problem was he wanted to see if someone here had similar hardware [05:52] The-Croupier: ah, so you couldn't have either said "yes, I do" or ignored his question like the rest of us who doesn't? [05:52] his problem was he should have just asked the question without regards to the hardware [05:52] dont* [05:53] I am thoroughly sick of Thom1 - he's been hanging around for a LONG time asking the same stupid questions, not getting the answers he wants and getting pissy about it. He had MORE than his fair share of chances.. im done with him [05:53] alisonken1home: not necessarily.. I've asked similar questions just to see if someone else has to give myself motivation to work out an issue.. [05:53] is this some internet discussion? [05:53] quasar: there is that [05:53] ncgty: no [05:54] quasar: this is not a one-off.. this is not one person being dumb once [05:54] quasar: i did tell him to tell us the question ... either its a no, or a yes [05:54] Zordrak: /ignore works on most clients [05:54] this is one person beni an utter moron on a continuos scale [05:54] alisonken1noc: lulz [05:54] nullify (i=n@24-183-105-235.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:54] could someone please paste the line i said it doesnt matter, please tell us the question [05:55] Zordrak: in his defense, I sometimes find it takes me a few times and several cluebats to finally figure out some things [05:55] i think i said it twice [05:55] alisonken1noc: the issue changes daily.. and i have tried too many times to smack him with a cluebat [05:55] alisonken1noc: enough is enough [05:55] Zordrak: however, since I don't have your history on him, I can't push you on it [05:55] :) [05:56] so I hope he goes to fuck him.. as he so eloquently put it [05:56] there was no need for that... we tried to get the question out of him Twice [05:56] The-Croupier: the question was there.. it was simply that, a yes or no question.. maybe he didn't want help with an issue [05:57] quasar: he should have said so [05:57] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: "Leaving" [05:57] DHarry (n=DHarry@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:57] The-Croupier: give up.. quasar isnt worth it [05:57] quasar: that was my question, i dont need anything else... and even if that is the case i dont see how that is anyones bussiness what hardware someone is running [05:58] quasar: i have seen you in the channel for a long time now... i dont understand why you dont get it, there was nothing wrong here, [05:58] there's nothing to "not get" except the reaction that he got [05:59] Zordrak: i dont like it when ppl think i did something wrong, when i believe i didnt. im quiet happy to understand, maybe never do it again [05:59] Action: alienBOB too, thinks Zordrak was way out of line when he replied to Thom1 [05:59] DHarry (n=DHarry@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [05:59] Next time, just do not reply please [05:59] quasar: i cannot help someone on getting a reaction on various matters [05:59] alienBOB: definately ;) [06:00] naughty boy, you! [06:00] quasar: do you still believe i was an ass??? even after reading the above? [06:00] My patience has a limit. Sometimes i cant help but lart. [06:00] hiya slackytude [06:00] Just ignore him next time Zordrak [06:00] y0 The-Croupier [06:00] He was not talking to you anyway [06:00] y0 channel [06:01] time to fetch some grub [06:01] Zordrak: i feel a lot like you sometimes, but /ignore is so much less effort [06:01] good morning slackytude [06:01] slackytude: niceoooo [06:01] Rejf (i=rejf@blowfish.pl) left ##slackware. [06:01] y0 godling [06:01] godling, your nick always reminds me of starfcraft [06:01] why? [06:02] spook: i know.. just ignore bugs me.. i dont like only seeing one side of a conversation.. but not realising that its only one side [06:02] hehe [06:02] spook: i only have one person on ignore and that has DAMN good reason [06:02] godling, zergling [06:02] slackytude: zerg rush kekekekeke!!11 [06:02] Zordrak: let me guess, you are making them two [06:03] slackytude: once when I was younger I played Brood Wars for about a month and didn't leave the house [06:03] The-Croupier: no.. Thom1 is just an idiot.. to go on ignore you need to be a real asshole [06:03] godling, smelly [06:03] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [06:03] GUYS [06:03] slackytude: indescribably [06:03] big news [06:03] surrealgirl: oh? [06:03] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@84-43-125-187.ppp.onetel.net.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:03] so i just closed hundreds of firefox tabs and now its only just one tab :D [06:03] SALE AT SPATULA CITY?! [06:03] jkwood_ (n=jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:03] surrealgirl, thats the big news? [06:04] hell yeah [06:04] ang_ (n=ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [06:04] i had hundreds of tabs and im known for it [06:04] doesn't firefox crash with alot tabs? [06:04] credo (n=36th@80.233.147.119) left irc: Connection timed out [06:04] oh [06:04] Nick change: mako-don1 -> mako-sama [06:04] by who? [06:04] mako-sama: sometimes [06:05] mako-sama, ya it does [06:05] it's always slow and crashes once a day.. at least [06:05] mako-sama: I think the likelihood increases if you're using flash in any of them. [06:05] i think we spoke about this matter too much for one day... Zordrak let it go... alienBOB told us what to do next time so ...its all gooooooodddd [06:05] are there any alternatives? [06:05] and I don't really use flash.. i use flashblock... it's just that I always have 200+ tabs open [06:05] hehe [06:05] i got you beat [06:05] almost 500 here [06:06] but i closed a lot of them [06:06] ang (n=ang@ip68-110-205-91.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:06] why? [06:06] i do a lot of reading and online posting and etc [06:06] a LOT [06:06] surrealgirl: i'm not trying to compete with you :p [06:06] I checked the channel logs for the past week and I found _nothing_ about Thom1 that warrants Zordrak's hostile reaction [06:06] hm zordrak? what happened with him? [06:06] If I did that much updating I'd end up writing a script to automate it for me. [06:07] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-zjszwvjfeeltbcyk) left irc: [06:07] Thom1 may ask questions about hardware support anytime he wants - I can't find stupidness, perhaps just some naivity [06:07] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.22) joined ##slackware. [06:07] I can only handle 30-50 tabs in Firefox, in my experience. [06:07] So next time you attack him, the ban will be for the attacker [06:08] alienBlurb, hm? so it turns out there are mean people that finally decided to attack other people instead of me right? :D [06:08] alienBOB: its been a month or so, but he seems to come back with essentially the same set of problems and is only really looking for the easiest solution that doesnt require him to learn anything. [06:08] erm alienBOB [06:08] alienBOB: i really truly cant be arsed to go wgetting and grepping the logs [06:08] Nick change: C00re_ -> C00re [06:08] alienBOB: but i had cause [06:08] alienBOB: not that i'm condoning attacking him, but he can be very frustrating [06:09] Zordrak: The US had cause when they nuked Hiroshima. [06:09] mank (n=jerware@70.44.195.123.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [06:09] hi [06:09] hello mank [06:10] godling: keep on the godling side of godwin [06:10] guys, that is easily solved, just not replying as alienBOB said before... [06:10] Zordrak: I thought it was funny. :) [06:11] Action: The-Croupier believes, if alienBOB hasnt /ignored Thom1, would get pissed off himself and maybe ban him on his own at some point in the future [06:11] can i haz moar drama, kthx [06:12] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [06:12] tuxloo (n=root@117.39.59.215) joined ##slackware. [06:12] mank (n=jerware@70.44.195.123.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:13] godling: you're just as bad as thom1 [06:13] mancha: satisfied? [06:13] lol [06:13] has anyone been following the openoffice security news? is 3.1.1 included in the vulnerable versions? [06:14] j0z (n=JESUS@189.58.27.71.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:14] spook: From what I gather from extensive ip tracing, Thom1 is French. [06:14] spook: How dare you, sir. [06:15] godling: all french should die [06:16] I don't think so. [06:16] I was just making a joke. [06:16] mancha: according to the OOo security bulletin, yes. [06:16] oahong` (n=user@61.152.248.21) joined ##slackware. [06:16] oh wait [06:16] misread it [06:16] godling, i have gotten conflicting reports, regarding 3.1.1's inclusion [06:17] mancha: from the horse's mouth: http://www.openoffice.org/security/bulletin.html [06:18] oh wow, Secunia's hiring [06:18] how dope would that be? [06:18] The-Croupier: I do not ignore anyone in this channel. But I also do not reply to obvious lack of clue which does not eblong in this channel (other than referring the user to another channel perhaps). Calling people stupid is one step too far if they are just ignorant [06:19] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-165-182.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:19] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.83.246) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:19] godling, yes i read that. i have reason to suspect this might not be totally accurate [06:20] mancha: what makes you suspect that? [06:21] does anyone here is running compiz + slackware13 + xfce? [06:21] a conflicting report a friend mentioned - i thought maybe someone here was folliwng the thread closely [06:21] ncgty, why would you wnat compiz? [06:21] ncgty: I'm not in front the machine at the moment, but I have that configuration. [06:21] alienBOB: understood ;) [06:21] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.86) joined ##slackware. [06:22] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [06:22] surrealgirl: some friends on college said would be fun to have it and im trying to set it here [06:24] Action: Zordrak to vodafone: Please remove the content filter on my browsing service as you said you would do two months ago. [06:24] ncgty: check slackbuilds.org [06:24] Vodafone to Zordrak: Ok sir, I have remowed the web browsing package for you as you asked. [06:25] facepalms just cant cut it anymore [06:25] heh. [06:25] yep - facepalms just aren't enough on that one [06:25] spook: already but thanks [06:27] ncgty, i run those from time to time [06:27] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [06:27] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:27] Zordrak, hehe [06:28] TwinReverb: couldnt find it on slackbuilds, just on the slack12.1 :B [06:28] ncgty, its not on sbo anymore [06:29] compiz-fusion anyway. compiz is in slack by default [06:29] It's an old version, and doesn't contain much. [06:30] uh, compiz, isn't that part of slackware now? [06:30] yes [06:30] As I said, it's an older version and doesn't contain much :-) [06:31] there hasnt been much activity with compiz-fusion anyway [06:31] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [06:31] yes, 0.7.something and people over the internet said you should upgrade to 0.8 anyway [06:31] looks almost dead [06:31] They are rewriting it in c++. [06:31] And it's far from dead. [06:32] what is dead? [06:32] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [06:32] my first experience with it was on knoppix and it was enabled by default. very annoying on slower machines [06:32] oahong (n=user@unaffiliated/samigarus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:32] you could try the slackbuilds for 12.2 [06:32] some sources will be missing, tho [06:34] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.41.246) joined ##slackware. [06:34] Action: slackytude did that [06:34] so, I got the compiz-fusion stuff on 13 [06:35] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [06:36] there's not many differences in 12.2 to 13.0 slackbuilds except the ability to know if it's on x86_64 or not, and the new file extension logic (i.e. knowing if you want a tgz or a txz) [06:36] you can easily mod the ones in 12.2 to 13.0 [06:37] john_dee (n=id@93-81-117-163.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:38] TwinReverb: also the lack of all the packages in slackbuilds, that are now part of slackware. [06:38] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [06:38] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [06:38] there's got to be a way to make it work [06:38] TwinReverb: pretty much all the packages missing on slackbuilds between 12.2 and 13.0 either weren't tested/checked/updated to work with 64bit in time, or just dont work. [06:39] you can always go old-school and just ./configure --prefix=/usr && make && make install for now [06:39] if it only works on v13-32 it won't makeit on slackbuilds.org? [06:39] the ones i modded did but i decided not to post to slackbuilds.org because they're probably swamped with submissions right now [06:40] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) left irc: "leaving" [06:40] hi, anyone know when the new slackbook is due out? [06:40] mancha: it will, but it will be labeled as such, afaik [06:40] finkn: when its ready [06:40] finkn, i think alan hicks is hella busy [06:40] gotcha (me knows no slackbuilds.org protocol) [06:40] spook: oh, thanks! >p [06:40] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:40] finkn, last i offered to help with the book he said he was too busy and then also said that he doesn't have time to spin me up [06:41] mornin Camarade [06:41] TwinReverb: ok, so no time soon then I guess [06:41] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [06:41] please be patient [06:41] sure thing [06:42] TwinReverb: you can actually see the pending list, its linked to on the submission page [06:42] TwinReverb: what did he mean "spin you up"/ [06:42] *? [06:42] godling, train me [06:43] morning quasar :) [06:43] TwinReverb: I thought it was easy to "spin you up" :) [06:44] What is there to train you about? The writing aspect of it? [06:44] "i before e, except after c" [06:44] alisonken1noc: hahaha [06:44] mancha: and when sounding like hay as in neighbor or weigh [06:44] alisonken1home, lol [06:44] :P [06:45] and weird is just weird [06:45] isn't that related to little miss muffet? [06:45] that's "whey" [06:45] mancha: whey [06:45] yeah but then it ruins my lame joke [06:45] godling: not "wierd" :) [06:46] alisonken1noc: nope, weird. [06:46] weigh is what whey does to little miss muffet [06:46] weigh++ [06:46] whey weighed miss muffet? [06:46] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:47] why would whey weigh miss muffet? [06:47] godling: ok - missed the question mark. spelling of wired from a lot of people here in the last couple of months [06:47] Action: Zordrak has in interesting job some days [06:47] "little" was a euphemism for heffer [06:47] I'm about to check the CCTV for footage of somene taking a dump in our bike racks on a friday night [06:47] I like this conversation :) [06:47] godling: weigh as in "weight -> increase in" [06:47] alisonken1noc: I lost a 4th grade contest by misspelling weird. I shall never forget this. [06:48] godling: :) [06:48] That and 'xenophobia'. [06:48] "can you please use it in a sentence?" "you, young lad, are very very weird" [06:48] hah - xenophobia is easy. weird, on the other hand ..... [06:48] and so he was marked for life... [06:48] 20+ years later I am still talking about it... [06:48] Action: Zordrak marks for life anyone who spells "definitely" "definately" [06:48] ;P [06:49] Action: Zordrak is looking at The-Croupier [06:49] Zordrak: :) [06:49] tuxloo (n=root@117.39.59.215) left irc: Connection timed out [06:49] the emotional scars run deep, grasshopper :) [06:49] LOL [06:49] the centre of definitely is the word "Finite" [06:49] remember that [06:49] of course, if you spelled center correctly ..... [06:50] :) [06:50] OH SNAP [06:50] alisonken1noc: thanks [06:50] alisonken1noc: suck my hairs gumbahs... you misspell it... we invented it [06:50] but lets not start that again [06:50] :) [06:50] ofc some people say it differently ..;) [06:50] Zordrak: That's what the limey vultures said in The Jungle Book. [06:50] Action: Zordrak goes back to his CCTV Poo-finding mission [06:51] http://www.snorgtees.com/itfeelsgoodtobeagangsta-p-595.html [06:51] :D [06:51] You're on a mission to find what? [06:51] read up [06:51] godling: review up [06:51] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436201.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:51] ok [06:51] about 25 lines [06:51] apparently, someone mistook the bike rack for the loo [06:51] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:52] I've been reading about the Jew Conspiracy in the US government according to Mother Jones. ;P [06:52] haha [06:52] i say bull [06:52] i say bull again lol [06:52] how about calf fries instead? [06:52] TwinReverb: thats what happens when you change the words in the english language ;) [06:53] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [06:53] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [06:53] Zordrak: You should leave it, find out who did it, then make them clean it up. [06:53] If I were you I'd look to zealous anti-hippie-oriented people. [06:53] Zordrak: or put his face in it, like they do to young dogs to never do that again [06:54] That's a horrible thing to do to dogs and it can make them very sick. [06:54] the human tradition of taking a dump wherever far predates bike racks, if anything the bike rack placement is at fault :> [06:54] doh [06:54] tewmten: and that picture is decidedly anti-gangster. [06:54] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.133.128.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [06:55] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.133.128.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:55] or even gangsta [06:55] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Excess Flood [06:56] funny,eh?:D [06:56] http://www.snorgtees.com/314ofsailorsarepirates-p-692.html [06:56] :D [06:56] tewmten: the "in case of zombies" shirt is flawed [06:56] yes [06:56] it should have a machete instead [06:56] :P [06:56] fools, don't they know that blades do not need reloading?! [06:56] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [06:56] I foresee people who wear that getting punched in the chest. [06:57] tewmten: no, but it's harder to reach out to them from a distance with a blade [06:57] 'cause zombies are EVERYWHERE. [06:57] zoztrix (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:57] you have to get up-close and personal - which means you get their unique blend of scents as well [06:58] mr-S (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:58] also you have a higher chance of being bitten [06:58] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:58] Hermann (n=Hermannn@129.16.11.72) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [06:59] braaaain .... nom-nom [07:00] spectre1 (n=kyle@41.210.144.127) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:00] brbrbr: it's "braaaainnnnzzzzz" [07:00] ;-) [07:00] Hermann (n=Hermannn@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [07:00] its Russian zombies, dialect ;) [07:00] haha [07:00] ah [07:00] gotcha [07:02] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [07:03] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:03] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:03] mr-S (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:03] speaking of t-shirts, is there a link or something, there was a t-shirt with unix commands on it, like mount,bitchx, shutdown -h now, there were two of them, one short version, and a long one... does anyone have a reference to the long version of this t-shirt? [07:04] been looking for it, but all i get is the short version of it, [07:04] like "bitchx -my -t-shirt -now -slowly" [07:04] mr-S (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:05] vukovar (n=vukovar@CPE-121-220-83-97.lnse2.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:05] something like that,,,, but not exactly [07:06] mr-S (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:07] how about "girlmk2 -touch&dance -now" ? :) [07:07] the & would background at -touch :) [07:08] leaving dance -now [07:08] we urgently need "dance" command, to complete "touch" and "cat" tools ;P [07:08] "girlmk2 -touch -dance -now" would probably work, though [07:09] Action: brbrbr put "Shiprecked" album of Genesis in jukebox [07:10] hm, "dance" should have ability to control mpd at least :) and make some .."dating arangements" in facebook and etc, without user interference ;) [07:11] lol. [07:11] why not ? :) some php/list scripts :0) [07:11] find "unallocated" girls and talk with :) [07:12] "list==lisp [07:12] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-cutiiqiwqdhllbaf) joined ##slackware. [07:12] or erlang, nevermind [07:12] nah, i prefer the t-shirt version, who | grep -i blonde| date; cd ....etc [07:13] brbrbr: you sound professional on that..;) [07:13] -) [07:13] Action: The-Croupier looks at brbrbr suspiciouly [07:13] Action: brbrbr ducks and hides :) [07:13] linXea (n=e@nomad-ult-c4185.data.slu.se) joined ##slackware. [07:13] Action: brbrbr pretend to be cactus [07:13] linXea (n=e@nomad-ult-c4185.data.slu.se) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:14] Action: The-Croupier gets a katana, and starts cutting whatever ends are suspicious on the cactus [07:15] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.41.246) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:15] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [07:15] Action: brbrbr turn on Uber-Hyper powerful Jedi Slow-mo and fly away, safely [07:17] Zdenka-f (i=vokzaj@41.236.13.76) joined ##slackware. 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[07:34] bofh != plural [07:34] Zordrak: =) [07:34] It is if the o is for operators [07:34] :) [07:34] uh, no. [07:35] Zordrak: the 'o' from bofh could be singular or plural. depends on which side of the service call you're on :) [07:36] stories is plural [07:37] http://www.123greetings.com/love/i_love_you/general/lgen65.html <--- interesting take on "I Love You" ecard [07:37] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:37] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.3.106) left irc: "Leaving" [07:37] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [07:39] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:44] http://blog.tpa.me.uk/?p=132 <-- SysAdmin Adventures blog noting that pidgin in slack13 uses gstreamer for audio, but gst-plugins-good (which has the wav file plugin) is in sbo and not slack [07:46] alisonken1noc indeed [07:47] mailed pat.. got no reply [07:47] alisonken1noc: did you find that by google? 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[07:55] just need to see if i can integrate MythTV so i can get TV on the box too [07:56] seems theres a SlackBuild for MythTV's current version in the 12.1 tree.. [07:56] Lateraluzi (n=Lateralu@pool-74-106-202-64.syrcny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:56] dont know why only 12.[01] though [07:57] ahh 12.2 too [07:57] Roozzalinda (i=sadada@41.236.14.77) joined ##slackware. [07:57] you might as well use the most up to date version of slackware that you can get mythtv for [07:58] ... [07:58] am using 13.0 [07:58] the 12.2 build will prbably do the job fine [07:58] eviljame1 (n=james@96.49.81.107) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:58] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [07:58] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:59] _bruno (n=bruno@189.29.242.223) joined ##slackware. [07:59] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [07:59] TwinReverb: mythtv doesnt have a stable qt4 version. [07:59] as long as it has qt4 bindings OR you have qt3 compat installed [08:00] ah forgot about that.. need to point it at the qt3-compat stuff [08:00] _bruno (n=bruno@189.29.242.223) left irc: Client Quit [08:00] I have the same problem with kvirc - and haven't had time to work with the qt3-compat yet [08:02] do i need anything else from kde3 compat? or just ot3? [08:02] *qt3 [08:02] qt3, afaik [08:02] spook, which is why i said "the most up to date version ... you can get mythtv for" [08:03] but i feel your pain [08:03] granted there's kde3 compat in extra i think [08:04] Sorry for the probably stupid question, but ever since I compiled by own kernel, I am unable to run 32 bit applications on my slackware64 installation. [08:04] kvirc has their new version setup for qt4, but it's in beta atm [08:04] adamk_, did you compile in 32bit support? [08:04] i think that's an actual option [08:04] (iirc) [08:05] TwinReverb: I'm guessing not. :-) For processor family, I selected "GEneric-x86-64". I guess I'll poke around in menuconfig to see if I can find the option :-) [08:06] i can't remember though, so might want to check it out [08:06] and enable Generic X86 if that option exists [08:06] adamk_: diff your .config with the .config of the standard kernel [08:07] spook: Oooh, excellent idea. [08:07] diff -y --suppress-common-lines [08:08] adamk_: you act as if its not normal for me to have excellent ideas. [08:08] spook: I don't know you well enough to know if it's normal or not :-) [08:08] adamk_: well i've started a precendent [08:09] aw man.. no configure option for qtdir.. will have to be careful [08:09] Jullyend (n=jully@201.15.54.35) joined ##slackware. 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[08:21] heh [08:22] mr-S (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:22] Zdenka-f (i=vokzaj@41.236.13.76) left irc: No route to host [08:23] grr [08:23] libavcodec still compiling with the wrong qt [08:27] Hermann (n=Hermannn@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:28] Hermann (n=Hermannn@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [08:28] i'll have a play with the latest svn while you're doing that [08:28] feel free tho throw suggestions [08:28] *sigh* [08:29] Zordrak: no ideas sorry [08:29] im at the point of running configure and then manually checking and tweaking the makefile [08:29] Zordrak: maybe tweak s [08:29] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@86.192.144.112) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:29] yeah lol [08:29] how the hell did R&D manage to build a 100MB webinterface for our software :S [08:29] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-17-112.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:29] 100MB of PHP code [08:29] w t f [08:29] tewmten: how in.. [08:29] what. [08:29] ok.. well its using the right qmake... [08:29] tewmten: images? [08:30] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: No buffer space available [08:30] spook: nah they're only 1.7MB of those 100MB [08:30] and the rest is code? [08:30] i joke.. its not 100MB, only 98MB [08:30] yes [08:31] pure code? [08:31] php, xml, css [08:31] oh god [08:31] and this is not including the other parts of our product.. [08:31] or any content [08:32] oh well.. it is what IT is [08:32] :p [08:32] Zordrak: the somewhat good news is that svn tree has someone improved build process [08:32] somewhat [08:32] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.22) left irc: "Leaving" [08:32] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.86) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:33] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.65.6) joined ##slackware. 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[08:40] Zordrak: can you pastebin your script? [08:41] i needed qt3 as well... but didnt have time to work on it..:( [08:41] Zordrak: that would be well helpful [08:41] helpfull [08:41] spook: its literally just as i said.. take the script frow 12.2 and add the QTDIR & PATH lines... i decided you dont need to change the qmake line cause the path takes care of it [08:42] john_dee (n=id@93-81-117-163.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: No buffer space available [08:42] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:42] stybla (i=stybla@78.110.208.218) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:42] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [08:42] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [08:43] firedix (n=firedix@200.82.13.38) joined ##slackware. [08:43] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." 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[08:51] http://www.ohiolinux.org/linuxbasics.html <-- i like the first sentence...especially the part "the basics of ubuntu linux" are there basics on that?! [08:51] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [08:51] im mean.. how the hell do you *accidentally* install Netware in the first place?! he claims he definitely didnt do it (that he knows of) [08:51] by the way, im sure you guys will know, is there anywhere to get online seminars? [08:52] linux,unix..and the kind [08:52] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [08:53] i remember a seminar site, not sure about linux though [08:53] Zordrak: what version of lame are you using? it complains to not find it here. [08:53] looked high quality [08:53] big name schools had seminars recorded for free [08:53] legally free heh [08:53] spook: alienBOB's [08:54] Zordrak: so not the slackbuilds version? 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[08:58] (dvbtypes.h) [08:58] morning folks [08:58] werti_rus (i=500@95-24-249-255.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:58] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:59] hi folk [08:59] someone using cherokee web server? [08:59] what's wrong with apache? [09:00] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.27.127) joined ##slackware. [09:00] Zordrak: make sure to use the configure --dvb-includes [09:00] spook: how you doing with svn? apparantly this is a known bug with a one-line-patch thats already dealt with in svn [09:01] adupuis_ (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) got netsplit. [09:01] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) got netsplit. [09:01] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) got netsplit. [09:01] mr-S (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) got netsplit. [09:01] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) got netsplit. [09:01] kozandr (n=kozandr@92.243.174.247) got netsplit. [09:01] mag0o (i=20001@74.255.51.210) got netsplit. 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[09:06] whats the easiest way to get and install a package series, like /l/ or /n/ [09:06] sid77 (n=sid77@moko.slackware.it) left irc: Broken pipe [09:06] sid77 (n=sid77@moko.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [09:07] rsync foo; upgradepkg --install-new foo/* [09:07] rsync foo; upgradepkg --install-new foo/*.t?z [09:07] yeah... :/ [09:07] whats the deal with _fixes? [09:07] huh? [09:07] xxjx (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) joined ##slackware. [09:08] The-Croupier: not unless you have root access on the servers [09:08] it looks like the 0.21 stable linked from the hompage is patrhed up by branches/release-0-21-fixes [09:08] oh [09:09] spook: so.. we dont want trunk OR 0.21 [09:10] what a bag of wank [09:10] madnex (n=madnex@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [09:10] no wonder dsomero didnt bethr updating the slackbuild [09:11] macavity: what do you mean [09:12] _bruno_ (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [09:12] macavity: sorry, i got it [09:12] macavity: damn, there should be a way to help [09:14] _bruno (n=bruno@200.145.37.66) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:14] Nick change: _bruno_ -> _bruno [09:14] Zordrak: i think it might actually just have finished compiling... [09:14] which.. trunk? [09:14] yup [09:14] kk [09:14] aaaaanndd? [09:15] i wont know until i try setting it up [09:15] heh [09:15] it probally has lots of bugs tho [09:16] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: No route to host [09:16] bien sur [09:16] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.21.169) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:17] someone using pc as WIFI Access point? 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[09:21] oops [09:21] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436201.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:21] acidtripper: it depends on your wireless card. [09:21] reeb|zor (n=reebte@65.242.34.82) joined ##slackware. [09:22] chasmo77 (n=chas@69.4.142.174) left irc: "Leaving" [09:22] mm my idea is to buy a common 54 wifi card and mount an old pc as access point [09:22] and maybe file/cups server [09:22] but some people told me i'll have problems [09:22] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436201.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:23] acidtripper: make sure to get a wifi card that supports master mode i think it is, under linux [09:23] master mode or AP mode [09:23] but this isnt really the best place to ask. [09:23] why? [09:23] shyko (n=shyko@200.230.81.70) joined ##slackware. [09:23] ppelemoo (n=ppe_lemo@host189-162-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:23] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.21.7) joined ##slackware. [09:24] ap mode would be routing with a wifi card - slackware is not a wifi router distribution, so ymmv [09:24] but with bridge utils [09:24] this is a good card http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-58003560-placa-de-red-wifi-linksys-wmp54g-3-anos-garantia-con-fact-_JM [09:24] hi folks! [09:24] I'm attempting to install slack 9.0 on an IBM ThinkPad 755c (50mhz, 570mb harddrive, 4mb ram). I'm using the lowmem.i boot disk but when I get to the point where I insert the root disk it tells me: "end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 0" [09:25] reeb|zor: heh. [09:25] any bsd/linux can handle AP alisonken1noc [09:25] spook: I found it in a storage room at work [09:25] acidtripper, get a supported wifi chipset, and you'll be ok [09:25] reeb|zor: slackware 12.0 is the oldest currently supported version, afaik [09:25] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD883D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:25] acidtripper: but for the last time, this isnt the place to ask. [09:26] acidtripper: yes - but this forum is for general slackware (unofficial) help. wireless issues and ap/master mode is a little more specific than that [09:26] im betwen athreos or linksys [09:26] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89AEA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:26] alisonken1noc: hes just not listening, is he? [09:26] madwifi-project.org has some good tips on the atheros card that can be used with just about any distribution [09:26] spook: 12.0? really? oh well anyway, can anyone here help me? [09:27] reeb|zor: yes, throw it in the bin. :P [09:27] acidtripper: check the linksys chipset - some came with atheros chips [09:27] reeb|zor: but seriously, try LFS. [09:27] yes maybe is better to buy athreos [09:27] reeb|zor: make it a Frisbee. [09:27] acidtripper, lookup Baacktrack forums, it's based on Slackware and they discuss details like packet injection, you'll find a list of cards there. [09:28] agentc0re: tempting.... I might give netbsd a go on it then [09:28] heh [09:28] CcSsNET (n=user@c-71-232-196-119.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:28] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [09:28] acidtripper: with that note, I've used the atheros chips and driver in the past. good card, but bridging had issues. you may want to check now since the last time I used bridging was the beginning of the year [09:28] Nick change: rainland_ -> rainland [09:28] mercadolivre \o/ [09:28] reeb|zor: build your own kernel and system, LFS = linux from scratch. [09:28] reeb|zor: have you tried a more recent version of slack? i don't see why 11 or 12 wouldn't work. [09:29] Haiku is in alpha :-) [09:29] agentc0re: 4mb of ram. [09:29] YAY! [09:29] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:29] i will see, the question was oriented to that, i will have issues or problems? [09:29] shyko (n=shyko@200.230.81.70) left irc: "leaving" [09:29] agentc0re: 4mb of ram, 570mb harddrive and I only have a parrallel port cdrom drive... [09:29] acidtripper: possibly - like I said, the last time I looked into it was around feb. timeframe [09:29] becouse some users told me all will be okey and others recomended to buy a aout of the box AP [09:30] to prevent headache [09:30] reeb|zor: okay. but have you tried it? [09:31] acidtripper: a better bet would be try http://openwrt.org/ [09:31] Any why would even want to use something that old? i think you could buy something a bit higher on the old shitty line for the price of a bigmac. [09:32] openwrt is linksys 54g software [09:32] Dumb0 (n=ence@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [09:33] agentc0re: I've tried slackware 9.0 and 10.1, I will give 11 a try, but 12 doesnt have any boot disks (that I've found) [09:33] acidtripper: openwrt has more than just linksys software [09:33] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-233-133.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [09:33] Dumb0 (n=ence@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:33] I used it on an alix board - which is x86 based [09:33] yea, i will have to try it on hard disk or sd memory on laptop and the install on pc [09:34] the idea is to setup a machine with extern anthena [09:34] brixton (n=ted@188-220-199-48.zone11.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:34] brixton (n=ted@188-220-199-48.zone11.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:34] http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-59256176-antena-direc-15db-hasta-25km-para-pci-o-ap-realmente-unica-_JM [09:34] brixton (i=brixton@efnetwarrior.com) joined ##slackware. [09:34] reeb|zor: i'm guessing you can't boot from the cdrom drive :/ [09:34] if anyone has some time, i have a problem i'd love some help with [09:34] adupuis_ (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:34] agentc0re: this is true, I wish I could... [09:35] bummer dude... [09:35] brixton: state your problem. depending on who and how busy, you may get an answer in reasonable time [09:35] i just upgraded 12.2 -> 13.0 using the guide in the UPGRADE folder, everything went great. i recompiled my nvidia module and started X, no problem [09:35] but when i type, i get 3x each char [09:35] and i can't tap-to-click with my laptop's mouse pad [09:35] SWEET! [09:36] everything was fine beforehand [09:36] if anyone can help, that would be great :-) [09:36] so before you recompiled your nvidia drivers, it wasn't doing this? [09:37] brixton: you have a synaptics touchpad? there's a change with 13 - hal has taken over the hardware detection for X, and somewhere is the hal fix for synaptics [09:37] not sure about the triple characters, though [09:37] agentc0re: i didn't start X without the nvidia driver [09:37] alice_c: i don't know if it's a synaptics touch pad (before im sure in my xorg.conf i had it down as generic ps/2) [09:37] alisonken1noc: Ya i think i've heard people disabling the hal detection in the xorg.conf.. not sure how to do it myself though. [09:38] brixton: ah. [09:38] :-( [09:38] agentc0re: I worked around it by creating /etc/X11/xorg.conf [09:38] its quite pretty getting 3x each letter, but a little hard to type any meaningful commands :-) [09:38] brixton: rename your current xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak and run xorgsetup [09:38] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-jnzxbzvfvzfwzfdg) left irc: "Page closed" [09:39] _bruno_ (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [09:39] hmm [09:39] madnex (n=madnex@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: "Leaving" [09:39] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:39] agentc0re: my system seems to have hanged [09:39] Nick change: _bruno_ -> _bruno [09:39] brixton: also google how to disabled hal detection in x. [09:39] thats ok - the tap-to-click is really secondary to this keyboard problem [09:40] rebooting :/ [09:40] bleh, the lowmem.i for slack 11 gives me the same error when I try to load the rootdisk [09:40] brixton: shouldn't have to reboot - just restart X [09:40] i ran xorgconf after login, before i started X [09:41] i00nsu (i=1000@85.139.235.122) joined ##slackware. [09:41] xorgconf is gone in 13.0 [09:41] hell :-) [09:41] well then [09:42] im at a loss :-) [09:42] brixton: you might wanna try running slackpkg and doing a clean. just to make sure you got rid of old packages not needed anymore. [09:42] spook: now running my "checkout/update from 0-21-fixes then build" slackbuild [09:43] ok agentc0re, doing now [09:44] VFS: Cannot open root device "fd0" or 02:00 [09:44] brixton: updating with slackpkg is super easy too. it will rerun lilo if you upgrade to a new version and will also ask you what you want to do with .new files. [09:45] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: [09:45] reeb|zor: Frisbee anyone? :D [09:45] agentc0re: except itdoesnt work right if you have a custom kernel.. which you should :) [09:45] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [09:45] reeb|zor: LFS [09:45] Zordrak: Bah. whatever. :P [09:46] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: "leaving" [09:46] spook: LFS might be a good idea actually [09:47] Zordrak: only custom kernel i have right now is at work on my vmware machine because it's running an older 1.4 vmware server and i vaguely remember changing something about the clock speed. [09:47] agentc0re: initrd is ebil [09:47] i don't initrd at work at all. [09:47] just a modified huge kernel [09:47] sowtf.. you huge it? [09:47] reeb|zor: i only had to keep suggesting it. [09:48] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: Client Quit [09:48] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [09:48] Action: Zordrak goes off to find a pointed stick [09:48] at home on my pc use a initrd though for lvm/mdadm. [09:48] Zordrak: Don't poke your eye out! [09:48] Action: Zordrak finds vinegar to dip the stick in [09:49] agentc0re: Zordrak really hates initrds [09:49] spook: Yes, i know. [09:49] Action: Zordrak finds some salt for wound after-care [09:49] Action: spook gets an iodine bottle ready [09:50] Action: agentc0re pulls out the eel cannon. [09:50] what on earth [09:50] while you charge up the hill, run in a straight line. [09:50] Action: spook looks at the eel cannons in space [09:50] not even a 16T weight would be sufficient defence against a point-ed stick [09:51] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: Client Quit [09:51] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [09:51] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:5e7) joined ##slackware. [09:51] can you exclude a command from set -e? [09:52] perhaps || continue; [09:52] reeb|zor (n=reebte@65.242.34.82) left ##slackware. [09:52] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:53] Action: Zordrak wonders if qmake listens to $JOBS [09:53] this is taking forever [09:53] yup [09:55] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:55] Mrs (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:55] only as far as libmythlivewedia [09:56] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:57] westol (n=bnguyen@113.22.109.192) joined ##slackware. [09:57] NaCl (n=NaCl@wireless-216.235.234.53.kinex.net) joined ##slackware. [09:58] can you recomment an 8086 emulator for linux? [09:58] the one that works? [09:58] Nick change: oahong` -> oahong [10:01] explore (n=msparker@pool-173-57-115-183.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:10] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:11] vaibhav read this? http://alsa.opensrc.org/AlsaTips#Fighting_disturbed_sound AND http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Xruns [10:11] mr-S (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:11] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:11] mr_patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-rxrnbqkafngssaor) joined ##slackware. [10:12] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [10:13] Benjsh__ (n=benjsh@h140n1-m-sp-gr1.ias.bredband.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:14] Hi, I just installed slackware 13.0 on a netbook and when i run aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav i hear it but in kde there is no sound . When I goto sound settings I see HDA Intel alc272 analog and Esoudn (ESD) [10:15] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:15] hi, someone raid experienced ? [10:15] x1user: yeah i can [10:16] i cant install anything on my raid 0 2x18, first tried with bsd and get no ufs [10:16] after that with slackware and i got at lilo 999 99999 [10:16] is it driver problem or what? [10:16] x1user: you need to setup lilo and the kernel correctly [10:16] pirving (n=chatzill@64.39.88.42) joined ##slackware. [10:17] i check the devices in dev, and i install sda1 flages as bootable [10:17] gnubien: thanks i will look into it [10:17] the slackware setup used that partition [10:17] pirving (n=chatzill@64.39.88.42) left irc: Client Quit [10:18] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-009-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:18] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-33.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [10:18] how to change the lilo file from the insaltion cd, it something with chroot [10:18] Emeau-cat__ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:19] x1user: theres numerous readmes in the dvd image that explain it [10:19] would you hint me please, about what the raid or chroot ? [10:21] README_RAID.TXT [10:21] gnubien: somehow i suspect this is a problem related to firefox.. for some reason firefox hangs and this happens [10:21] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:5e7) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:21] gnubien: mostly happens when i am running firefox [10:22] ppelemoo (n=ppe_lemo@host189-162-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [10:22] Hi, I just installed slackware 13.0 on a netbook and when i run aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav i hear it but in kde there is no sound . When I goto sound settings I see HDA Intel alc272 analog and Esoudn (ESD) [10:23] vaibhav: run firefox in a terminal and look for errors when it hangs [10:23] Benjsh__: Lucky 3? [10:23] ups i pasted in wrong chan [10:23] sorry abbout that [10:23] was supposed to paste in #linux [10:24] Hey guys.... Maybe someone here can help me with a Wlan problem... I can't get an ip over dhcp... With backtrack it is working without problems, with slackware not. Using wicd to connect to wireless... It worked before but I think with the last big update from 12.2 to 13 it stopped working [10:24] i can activate the wlan and everything seems to be working... can connect to open wireless but not to my wpa2 secured network [10:24] giuppy (n=giuppy@host100-62-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:25] gnubien: let me look into it [10:25] spook, do you know how to edit the current instaltion lilo.conf [10:25] mount root device and use chroot [10:25] neonflux (n=mrjones@207.47.17.29.static.nextweb.net) joined ##slackware. [10:26] how exactly [10:26] they are coming out of the woodwork today [10:26] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436201.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:26] mkdir folder [10:27] mount /dev/you_dev folder [10:27] chroot /folder [10:27] Roozzalinda (i=sadada@41.236.14.77) left irc: No route to host [10:28] well lilo seems ok [10:28] i got lilo 999999999999 when i start it ?! [10:28] gnubien: i suppose the problem might be with the 64 bit version of the adobe flash player... its in alpha version and clearly sound kinds of oscillates sometimes when i am in fullscreen. As soon as i switch to normal mode, everything goes back to fine [10:29] gnubien: and firefox started from terminal doesn't show any error associated [10:30] vaibhav: agreed, adobe flash is most likely the problem [10:30] x1user, lilo [10:30] anyone have experience compiling pcemu (an 8086 emulator for linux). i really need help 'cause i need this app so much. this is the error when i tried to compile: http://pastebin.com/m6d720030 [10:30] posto2_ (n=posto2@bl6-229-49.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:30] powtrix: ? [10:30] hi guys [10:30] run lilo [10:30] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: [10:31] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [10:31] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436201.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:31] can anyone else help me with my keyboard problem? (each key press types 3 times) [10:31] can u tell me pls where i find the whole package source to compile kde3.5 ? [10:31] my xorg.conf is the same as before i upgraded to 13.0 and i have installed the latest nvidia drivers just now (if that would make any difference) [10:32] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:33] posto2_: The source? Have you looked on KDE's website? [10:35] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [10:35] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 105 (No buffer space available) [10:36] kamey (i=1000@088156038083.olsztyn.vectranet.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:36] kamey (i=1000@088156038083.olsztyn.vectranet.pl) left ##slackware. [10:36] spook: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/?p=137 [10:38] we need a go-oo build on sbo [10:38] aha! fixed! [10:38] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) joined ##slackware. [10:38] make one macavity :> [10:38] brixton: repeat time? [10:39] for some reason adding Option "XkbRules" "xorg" [10:39] fixed it [10:39] Zordrak: working? [10:39] i also removed Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" at the same time -- not sure which one fixed it [10:39] wowee usable slack 13.0 :D [10:40] Zordrak: i'll do the 64 bit testing :) [10:40] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:40] thrice`: i will [10:40] afk [10:42] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [10:42] spook: cant tell you till i get home where i have the X to test it with [10:42] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[10:50] lol.. i'm `lmgtfy`ing about two people a day without saying a word :) (link on compile guide) [10:51] jinro (n=jinro@166.137.6.135) left irc: Client Quit [10:52] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-uceavsbbkzvtsclj) joined ##slackware. [10:52] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: "Leaving" [10:55] werti_rus (i=500@95-24-249-255.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [10:57] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@79.54.69.19) joined ##slackware. [10:58] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [10:58] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [10:58] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [11:00] well, this monday is almost over [11:00] at least, the work part of it [11:00] well, my monday's over as soon as I get home [11:01] in, say, about 45 minutes :) [11:01] and it seems I still have a job [11:01] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl6-223-128.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:01] having a job is always good [11:01] agentc0re|work (n=jon@65.121.183.1) joined ##slackware. [11:01] alisonken1noc, nice. I'll go in 15 mins, but will be home an hour later [11:01] depends on the job [11:01] I kinda screwed up big time on friday [11:01] I"m leaving now and I should be home in about 45 minutes [11:01] oh well [11:02] have fun then o/ [11:02] true - jobs are good, good jobs are better :) [11:02] Action: slackytude nods [11:03] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:03] mr_patterson: yes, but what is needed? kdebase and kdelibs to get it work ? [11:03] or i need all packages? [11:07] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:08] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436201.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:08] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.27.127) left irc: "Leaving" [11:14] is there a way in slack 13.0 to load a jpg or gif so you dont see all the text under boot ? [11:14] 7 [11:16] posto2_: That's a harder question than your first. :P [11:16] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [11:16] posto2_: And what? Build 3.5.10 under 13? 64? 32? C'mon, get with the program! [11:16] wertik_rus (i=500@95-24-249-255.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:16] :D [11:18] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) joined ##slackware. [11:19] haha .. i am reading about at kde.org .. and yes is to build kde 3.5.10 under (slack13 32bits) [11:20] Hermann (n=Hermannn@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:20] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:20] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-12.2/source/kde/ [11:20] I read about konstructer.. I hope i can run it without X server .. [11:21] posto2_: I've haven't done it, but you might consider grabbing [11:21] posto2_: What thrice` said. [11:21] posto2_: the slackbuild script [11:21] usr_loca1 (n=usr_loca@c-76-97-113-50.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] nice, thanks, I just need the base and libs or I need base, libs, binds, and all stuff? [11:23] jjnw (n=jjnw-wib@82-69-3-154.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:23] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:23] If you need to ask, then you should build it all. Build, build, build like the wind! :) [11:23] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:23] We're timing you. [11:23] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.2.214) joined ##slackware. [11:24] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:24] ok, so the recommendation is to build and try startx until everything goes right .. [11:25] Hello evreyone! [11:26] ncgty (n=gui@201.86.161.22) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:26] lol. I run a XenServer, and i tried installing an XP guest. would blue screen during install. hahaah. But Server 2000 works just fine. For some reason that is highly amusing to me. [11:27] ncgty (n=gui@201.86.161.22) joined ##slackware. [11:27] agentc0re|work: I was visiting someone is a hospital the other day and 2 machines that I saw were BSOD. That's amusing and scary. [11:27] mesi (i=1000@200.52.177.190) joined ##slackware. [11:28] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Network is unreachable [11:29] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [11:29] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:30] vantech (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: "Leaving." [11:31] EYOLs (n=DrZarmak@cpe-024-167-133-032.triad.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:31] anyone know how to load a picture during boot so all the text is not displayed? [11:31] jjnw (n=jjnw-wib@82-69-3-154.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [11:32] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:32] usr_local (n=usr_loca@c-76-97-113-50.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:33] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89AEA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:34] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436201.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:36] check out splashy [11:36] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: "leaving" [11:36] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-009-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:38] Benjsh__: don't reboot? [11:38] agentc0re|work: xp works just fine in kvm [11:39] Benjsh__: you can also append quiet to the kernel at boot? [11:41] pinnen (i=pinnen@h-44-58.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [11:42] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) joined ##slackware. [11:43] EYOLs (n=DrZarmak@cpe-024-167-133-032.triad.res.rr.com) left irc: [11:43] EYOLs (n=EYOLs@cpe-024-167-133-032.triad.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:46] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [11:47] Lateraluzi (n=Lateralu@209-217-223-60.northland.net) joined ##slackware. [11:47] Lateraluzi (n=Lateralu@209-217-223-60.northland.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:51] where can i find a slackware logo in ascii? [11:51] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:53] LnxSlck: aalib [11:55] spook, thanks.. i'm trying to make a perl script with slackware logo [11:55] use libcaca if you want colour *snicker* [11:58] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [12:01] sveva65 (n=sverre@unaffiliated/sveva65) joined ##slackware. [12:03] It's possible to make text smaller in order to fit in a window? [12:03] adeodatus: explain what you mean [12:03] Emeau-cat__ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:04] use a... smaller font? [12:04] explore (n=msparker@pool-173-57-115-183.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:05] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-uceavsbbkzvtsclj) left irc: [12:05] I visited http://wigglit.ath.cx/slackware_botlogs/ and [12:05] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [12:05] the text is huge [12:06] I think firefox uses ctrl + scrollwheel as a zoom control (not sure, I haven't actually got a scrollwheel mouse here) [12:06] I use elinks [12:07] what, in a text terminal, or like "links -g" (graphical)? [12:08] In a text terminal. [12:08] outside of X ? [12:10] I've only a console; no X. [12:10] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-248.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:11] http://slackwiki.org/RAID_Array_%28Hardware%29 i read this, but there is no raid.s on the cd ? [12:11] i suggest you move /etc/rc.d/rc.font.new to /etc/rc.d/rc.font and add a custom font. you probably could have done that during installation [12:11] sveva65 (n=sverre@unaffiliated/sveva65) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.2.6.3"). [12:12] Urchlay: I don't think - I use in FF all of the time :) [12:13] vaibhav (n=landy@59.92.175.241) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:13] vaibhav (n=landy@59.96.57.207) joined ##slackware. [12:13] Superbaloo (i=FN@80.248.218.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:13] +/- works here too. but i think this is only in vimperator [12:15] Where do I modify the screensaver setting in XFCE? :P [12:15] Clicking around, but can't seem to find it. :D [12:16] It's possible to make text smaller in order to fit in a window?thanks [12:16] XtoTheZ (n=xx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [12:16] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [12:16] Hello! [12:16] at the moment i have installed win7 and ubuntu 9.04, can i expect any problems if i instal slackware after this 2 OS [12:17] XtoTheZ: Not if you do it right. [12:17] XtoTheZ: no. install lilo to the superblock, then chainload it from ubuntu's grub [12:17] tnx [12:17] thanks [12:18] hey edman007 i get a kitty and a laptop for my birthday and i can't wana share that with you or the opny [12:18] pony [12:18] mr_patterson: and how is right, are there any things i should take special care [12:18] Superbaloo (i=FN@80.248.218.170) joined ##slackware. [12:19] XtoTheZ: I've usually just written my own grub on the MBR. I don't use Lilo. [12:19] XtoTheZ: If Grub is already present, then just add an entry for Slackware. [12:20] mr_patterson: yes, grub exists, will du what u said, thanks, bye [12:20] XtoTheZ (n=xx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:20] wertik_rus (i=500@95-24-249-255.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [12:21] du/do not too hard to type [12:21] GRAH I HATE PEOPLE WHO DISABLE /PROC/CONFIG.GZ [12:21] Action: MoZes laffs [12:22] hmm [12:22] Action: nix_chix0r disables it [12:22] adeodatus: the answer for you is probably "install X and use firefox/konqueror/opera/whatever", but if you haven't already done that, I'm sure you have a good reason why not... [12:23] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [12:24] nix_chix0r: make sure the kitty gets his (her?) own login on your laptop, otherwise you might look in your browser history one day and find it full of kitty porn! [12:24] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) left irc: "Saliendo" [12:24] Urchlay, yeah good advice [12:24] i have 3 [12:25] hello world [12:25] Pft... Screensaver is not in XFCE Settings, but elsewhere. [12:25] Or lolcatz [12:25] i dbout i'll get another kitty though [12:25] :( [12:25] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/608qBv30.html <<< WTF. all i've done is uncomment Listen 80 [12:26] apache just wont start [12:26] I don't want install X because without X is nicer and you learn better. [12:28] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.165.195) joined ##slackware. [12:28] hi [12:28] hey nix_chix0r :) [12:28] metrofox: hello [12:28] howdy Necos [12:29] i just got off the phone with the LAUSD tech support... was on hold for 1/2 an hr [12:29] hi adeodatus :) [12:30] Necos, i was just talking to them [12:30] sorry [12:30] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.123) joined ##slackware. [12:30] adeodatus: eh, you know, with X, you can still type commands (in an xterm, or a konsole, or whatever) [12:30] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) joined ##slackware. [12:30] adeodatus: or you can press ctrl-alt-F2 and you're back at the text console [12:31] Urchlay: He wants to train the way Rocky trained when he fought Ivan Drago. [12:31] Ivan Drago was gay after all [12:32] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) left irc: Client Quit [12:32] I X is bourden for evreyone! [12:32] X is bourden for evreyone! [12:32] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) joined ##slackware. [12:33] ? [12:34] so yeah, apache wont start. [Tue Sep 15 00:32:57 2009] [crit] (22)Invalid argument: alloc_listener: failed to get a socket for 130.95.13.39 Syntax error on line 40 of /etc/httpd/httpd.conf: line 40 is: Listen 130.95.13.39:80 [12:34] get a newer kernel [12:34] hmmm, thats my first thought [12:35] or downgrade the userland util [12:35] it complains about syntax error... [12:36] mancha: Linux custardrum 2.6.18-6-xen-686 #1 SMP Fri Aug 21 02:11:30 UTC 2009 i686 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [12:36] i think you're right. [12:37] yeah you can probably look at the apr list and see if they patched from your version [12:37] falx (n=flaviu@78.97.215.212) joined ##slackware. [12:37] or you can go backwards too. if you don't want to change the kernel for a single userland case of dumb programming [12:38] would building my own apache package be the solution? perhaps the build process is smart enough? [12:38] no, you need either an older apr or a patched apr [12:39] eh, wait, what? [12:39] mancha: how can i find out how old an apr [12:39] what apr are you on? 1.3.8? [12:40] httpd-2.2.13-i486-1.txz [12:40] not httpd, apr! [12:40] Reticent1 (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:40] yeah just realised, and yes 1.3.8 [12:40] apache depends on the kernel version now? [12:40] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65210be.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:41] try going back a few minors spook, you can also look at changelogs on apr site to determine which is the right one [12:41] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:41] reti (n=root@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:41] mancha: what am i looking for that changed? [12:43] it looks like 1.3.5 might do the ticket [12:43] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl5-168-183.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:43] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [12:43] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65210be.cns.vt.edu) left ##slackware. [12:44] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.2.214) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:44] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] apparently you can build apr yourself, and it'll be fine (the build process will notice the missing functions and use the older ones) [12:44] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [12:44] hossa? [12:45] Urchlay: okay :) [12:45] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516331 (yeah, redhat/fedora, but the issue is explained fairly well: "The problem is the kernel you have (too old). It doesn't have accept4(), dup3() [12:45] and epoll_create1() functions. [12:45] ") [12:45] did you try that Urch or going by some google fu? [12:45] googling [12:46] oh well spook if that doesn't work you can try reverting back to 1.3.5 [12:46] spook: I missed the beginning of this conversation: how'd you get yourself into this situation? running old kernel + new apache? [12:46] question is, will i need to recompile apache/httpd [12:46] Urchlay: xen [12:47] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:47] eh, what are you running in xen? slackware with nonstandard kernel? [12:47] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:48] Urchlay: yes, and a) i dont understand what i need to do to make a xen ready kernel, and b) i dont have access to the host machine to easily do it [12:48] I mean xen is VM software, the fact that you're in a VM shouldn't cause this problem, at least not if I understand what the problem really is [12:48] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:49] OK, easiest thing to do here would probably be to grab the apr.SlackBuild from the source for whatever slackware version's running inside the xen VM, build that, and install it [12:49] Urchlay: i'm about 4 minutes ahead of you [12:49] and 2 minutes behind me [12:49] fair enough [12:50] mancha: oh to be fair we're even since it took me 2 minutes to get the stuff before i started building [12:50] i meant urch is [12:50] we need new issue for urch so he can work on an unsolved issue :) [12:50] ...unless maybe your VM is set up badly (kernel headers from new kernel, but running an old kernel. Ugh) [12:51] Urchlay: the vm had very little to begin with [12:51] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-13-10.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [12:51] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [12:51] Reav__ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: Connection timed out [12:52] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:52] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.165.195) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:53] hi antiwire [12:54] httpd: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for custardrum [12:54] Urch, did you ever figure out the grep/utf8 stuff? [12:54] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) joined ##slackware. [12:54] mancha: apache next? [12:56] landy (n=landy@59.96.41.110) joined ##slackware. [12:57] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:59] mancha: no, but then I haven't looked at it in... a week? 2 weeks? [12:59] wertik_rus (i=500@95-24-249-255.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:59] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-13-10.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware ("Fades out Slowly"). [13:01] landy (n=landy@59.96.41.110) left irc: "Leaving" [13:02] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) joined ##slackware. [13:02] mancha: even with 1.3.3 it fails, will recompiling httpd make a difference or do i need to try something else? [13:03] damn... being called away 30154285389539215 times is not fun >.<; [13:03] vaibhav (n=landy@59.96.57.207) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:04] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) left ##slackware. [13:04] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) joined ##slackware. [13:05] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-13-10.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [13:05] i wonder if nokia's are good phones [13:05] the smart ones [13:05] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [13:05] jeev you bastid... get a new tour already so i can bother you over BBM [13:05] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:06] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:06] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) left ##slackware. [13:06] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [13:07] and now i gotta run again, be back later [13:07] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.150.9) joined ##slackware. [13:07] what is a command to list the installed packages on my machine? [13:07] gnoel: ls /var/log/packages [13:07] XtoTheZ (n=xx@89.212.225.234) joined ##slackware. [13:08] does anyone understand wifi configuration - why isnt ther a decent faq? [13:08] mr_patterson: i installed slack on /dev/sda6, what to write in menu.list then [13:08] ty spook [13:08] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Client Quit [13:09] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. 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[13:14] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-13-10.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:14] Nick change: gemcat -> gem_cat [13:14] gem_cat: there is information about wireless configuration if you look a bit [13:14] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436201.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:15] Action: nix_chix0r dances with Necos [13:15] XtoTheZ (n=xx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [13:15] can someone tell me how to change grub, i just installed slackware on /dev/sda6, how to change menu.lst ? [13:16] alienBOB, there is a lot - all conflicting - there are several main themes if I could sort them out [13:16] XtoTheZ, where did you install grub? [13:16] Try "man rc.inet1.conf". Or read http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network [13:16] gem_cat: what is wrong now? [13:16] I've tried helping you many times [13:17] metrofox: /dev/sda5 [13:17] spook don't know - it now seems like some misconfig in xen? [13:17] XtoTheZ, mount /dev/sda5 and edit the /boot/menu.lst [13:18] yes i have it opend [13:18] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-13-10.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:18] gem_cat: I understand wifi configuration just fine, btw. [13:18] mancha: i tend to agree. [13:18] antiwire: he was just not interested enough... [13:18] i'll deal with it tomorrow [13:19] spook, i played with xen some while back but not enough to lend intelligent advice [13:19] adupuis__ (n=adupuis@80.12.81.23) joined ##slackware. [13:19] antiwire: maybe he has bat link with ap, and not the best chipset like atheros or something :) [13:19] XtoTheZ, well, now edit it adding slackware :) [13:19] mancha: yeah :( [13:19] */bat/bad [13:19] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:20] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A7337E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:20] metrofox: yes, that is what i am asking [13:20] metrofox: title Slackware 13.0 root (hd0,6) chainloader +1.. that stuff, what to write [13:22] mancha: yeah misconfiged xen. for example, the kernel is 2.6.18.8, but iptables is looking for 2.6.18.6 [13:22] oh wait. [13:22] the /lib/modules/ dir has 2.6.18.8, for a running 2.6.18.6 kernel [13:23] XtoTheZ, those infos are right, write them in the menu.lst :) [13:23] who made this VM? [13:23] metrofox: already tried it, not working when trying to boot [13:23] XtoTheZ, what does grub return? [13:23] mancha: they used http://stacklet.com/downloads/images/slackware/13.0 to set it up [13:24] posto2_ (n=posto2@bl6-229-49.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:24] metrofox: wait, i will reboot and tell you exactly, brb [13:24] wertik_rus (i=500@95-24-249-255.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [13:24] XtoTheZ (n=xx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:24] oh dunno, never heard of stacklet :/ [13:25] giuppy (n=giuppy@host33-168-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:25] neonflux (n=mrjones@207.47.17.29.static.nextweb.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] me too, never heard of stacklet [13:25] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [13:26] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [13:26] i'll get them to fix it tomorrow [13:26] adupuis_ (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: No route to host [13:26] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:29] inman (n=aligp@p579B4F46.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:29] XtoTheZ (n=xx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [13:29] XtoTheZ, where did you install slackware? On /dev/sda6? [13:30] metrofox: error 13: invalid or unsupported executable format [13:30] metrofox: yes [13:30] metrofox: FS type unknown, partition type 0x82 [13:30] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:31] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-248.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:32] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:32] 82 ain't good mojo [13:33] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@12.157.146.158) joined ##slackware. [13:33] you probably want 83 unless it is swap you're working on [13:33] mancha: no, swapa is /dev/sda9 [13:34] XtoTheZ, the slackware's sector in your menu.lst may look like (hd0,5), does it? [13:34] does fdisk -l give you joy? [13:36] any experience with pidgin vv? [13:36] I gotta go now see ya later guys [13:36] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.150.9) left ##slackware ("Ni viriamu!"). [13:37] inman (n=aligp@p579B4F46.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving." [13:37] i just installed slack 13.0 on a dell netbook. When I login to xdm as root then sound works but when i login as a normal user then sound dont work [13:37] inman (n=aligp@p579B4F46.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:38] guys any experience with pidgin vv over slackware? [13:39] Benjsh__: user must be part of 'audio' group [13:39] Ben, try adding your user toaudio [13:39] what app0 said :) [13:39] inman: a few of us have tested it extensively [13:39] Benjsh__: did you add the user to the audio group? [13:40] inman: Like I mentioned yesterday; good luck on getting it to work well. [13:41] Benjsh__ check if your user has been added to audio group first. check how to create new users [13:41] check if your user has ability to change sound level by alsamix [13:42] antiwire: i have GST_STATE_CHANGE_FAILURE, which gives Error creating conference [13:42] and i doubt it's slackware problem [13:42] inman: try #pidgin [13:42] antiwire: the problem is by farsight [13:42] ok [13:42] soudn works :) [13:42] now next problem [13:43] Benjsh__: http://slackbook.org/html/book.html#ESSENTIAL-SYSADMIN-USERS [13:43] when i login and set display settings to 1280x960 then after reboot it is still 800x600 and there is no config file in /etc/X11 [13:43] it is like it is not saveing my graphics settings [13:43] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [13:43] Benjsh__ as always, theres xorgsetup for you [13:43] antiwire: i thought it their Chanel is #trac [13:43] i want 1280 when i connect a vga and 1024 on the netbook [13:43] inman: .... [13:43] antiwire: i thought that their Chanel is #trac [13:43] check your tab completion [13:44] flvr (i=0@host-93-182-19-84.real.kvidex.net) joined ##slackware. [13:44] antiwire: i would try this, tanx! [13:44] seriously wtf [13:44] inman: I did not tell you to join any channel. [13:44] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl5-168-183.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [13:45] All I said was you are going to have a difficult time making vv work with pidgin [13:45] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:45] MarderIII (n=MarderII@83.162.26.38) joined ##slackware. [13:45] antiwire: what was that? i thought that was their Chanel [13:45] i give up. [13:45] antiwire: haha [13:45] (2009-09-14 10:42:29) agentc0re|work: inman: try #pidgin [13:45] .... [13:46] do you get it now? [13:46] antiwire: i try again and again, hopefully i find the solution! [13:46] this is like talking to a wall [13:47] XtoTheZ (n=xx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:47] antiwire: who is the wall? [13:47] vovk (n=Vovk@wks45367.uws.ualberta.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:47] antiwire: :D [13:48] Nick change: Quiznos -> PurpleSmurf [13:48] hey, anyone familiar with fluxbox wanna help me with fluxbox keys? [13:48] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:48] netwolker (n=netwolke@151.53.30.203) joined ##slackware. [13:49] i'm trying to make "alt+t" open xterm, so i have a line"Mod1 t: execCommand /usr/bin/xterm" [13:49] nothing is happening though :( the keys work for switching workplaces, so i know fluxbox keygrabber works [13:50] how to use raid.s kernel [13:51] try a space after t and no space between : and exec.... ? [13:51] how come when i make the new resolution and apply it in display settings in kde it dont make a /etc/X11/ conf file there and save it? [13:51] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-009-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:51] mancha, wow... thanks ^_^ i feel like a fool [13:52] XtoTheZ (n=xx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [13:52] dont feel; BE the fool :) [13:52] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [13:52] BEEEEEEEEEEEEEE the Fo0000ol [13:52] be [13:52] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.27.127) joined ##slackware. [13:52] speaking of Be [13:52] haiku alpha out today! [13:52] cryptsetup status cryptohome sais "dev/mapper/cryptohome is inactive". the second user i have has access to /home. how can i fix that? [13:52] where to get slackware with raid.s kernel! [13:52] go back to your hole smurf [13:53] ... [13:53] i'm tryin; hips too big [13:53] (BBunny comin out of the top hat) [13:53] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.187) joined ##slackware. [13:53] Benjsh__: someone mentioned this already. but here ya go. http://slackbook.org/html/book.html#X-WINDOW-SYSTEM-XORGSETUP [13:53] O.o this place is much more magical than #linux [13:53] wo0t [13:54] x1user, use the big.smp [13:54] can't beat #freebsd tho... those folks is crazy [13:54] i mean... the use freebsd... [13:54] heh [13:54] they* (wow... and now i feel more foolish) [13:54] imma get off your internets now [13:54] Strykar are you sure there is such kernel [13:54] vovk (n=Vovk@wks45367.uws.ualberta.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [13:54] i tihnk it is only huge and hugesmp [13:55] x1user, I meant hugesmp, it's also the default [13:55] it doesnot work with it [13:55] so, something is happening. the encrypted /home is usable. but by all users. how can i see what the problemo is [13:57] Keiffer: Can you explain what is happening? [13:57] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [13:58] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:58] @ boot you type some pass, it turn on "readable" the data [13:58] Keiffer: only root can access the mounted volume or what? [13:58] Yes. I have 2 users pn the box. One should have encrypted /home partition separrated by the other user. on dev/sdda6. also swap. [13:59] but when i log in on both, i get that swap is encrypted, not home [13:59] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [13:59] home is accessible by both. [13:59] what does mount show you? [14:00] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [14:00] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) left irc: "Saliendo" [14:00] df - T shows /dev/sda6 crypt 1920096 1060208 840380 56% /home [14:01] and mount /dev/sda6 on /home type crypt (defaults) [14:02] why is the type showing as crypt? [14:02] you are mounting the partition and not the mapper deivce [14:02] i had some questions on encryption [14:02] can you pastebin your fstab? [14:02] yes [14:03] antiwire, you familiar with trucrypt [14:03] Keiffer: If you've done what I think you've done it is possible that you may have corrupted everything [14:03] nix_chix0r: No, I use luks [14:04] http://pastebin.org/17884 [14:04] antiwire, i can get to my personal stuff. [14:04] ok. i had a question. say you have an external hard drive and i know that may not be entirely relevent. but anyway, if you encrypt a hard drive or device and added more to the device would that information you put on there be encrypted as well or would you have to redo the whole thing. i was just curious [14:04] that's the problem, anyone can [14:04] Keiffer: umm [14:05] nix_chix0r: I don't rightly understand the kind of thinking that could lead to such a question. [14:05] if you use truecrypt to encrypt a device, you mount it using truecrypt and then can use it like anything else, add things, rm things, etc. all changfes will be encrypted [14:05] Alan_Hicks, i just dont know how it' works [14:05] i think the problem lies in some modifications i made to crypttab and maybe fstab? cause encrypted swap works fine [14:05] yeah that's what i meant about any changes to the device [14:05] nix_chix0r: if by added more you mean add more data to the encrypted volume, then yes. it will all be encrypted on the fly [14:05] If the file system uses encryption, the data is encrypted. [14:05] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65210be.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:06] and can you remove the encryption with out fucking up your dataz [14:06] where i can find slackware with raid.s kernel [14:06] no, you would have to mount the encrypted volume/device and cp it over to a non-encrytped volume./device [14:06] Keiffer: what are you expecting to have happen? I've properly confused at this point. [14:06] gonza_ (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [14:06] can someone tells me how to change http://pastebin.org/17886 in order to run slack from at boot [14:07] antiwire. I want home to be encrypted, and only accessible be me. after logging in. [14:07] Keiffer: After you enter the passphrase for the luks volume it gets opened and mounted. That volume is now open to the system and if people have privileges to the mount point they can access it. [14:07] antiwire. Ok. [14:08] Keiffer: disk encryption prevents a physical attack against disk data. After the volume is unlocked and running normal filesystem rules apply. [14:08] But i've also done the modifications to automount it at login [14:08] mancha, thanks [14:08] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [14:08] i've been reading on it and it was just confusing me [14:08] no problem nix [14:08] Keiffer: Are you unable somehow to prevent others from accessing your data via filesystem permissions? [14:08] gonza_ (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Client Quit [14:08] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [14:09] Alan_Hicks, no. That's not my point. I just see, that if now i log in with my other user, i can see the allegedly-encrypted /home [14:09] I think he is confused about this. luks encryption is transparent to the system after the volume is opened. [14:09] .... [14:09] Keiffer: Correct. [14:09] thing is if this is multiuser and you want /home only avaiable to keiffer, then you better give the other users a non-/home home or else some kind of chroot or summit [14:09] also with a livecd [14:10] Keiffer: Correct, after entering the encryption key or password. [14:10] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:11] kieffer's home is on dev/sda6. the other's users have home on root partition and use no encryption [14:11] If you boot with a liveCD and don't enter any luks passphrases and can still mount /home and see the data that you *think* you put into the /dev/mapper/name...you've done it wrong. [14:11] antiwire: freeradius is working fine. [14:12] Keiffer: did you create a luks volume and then copy all of the /home content to into the new volume or did you just try to mount a luks volume over top of the old /home? [14:12] well stop stacking /home's then [14:12] chopp: awesome news [14:12] mancha: I think he stacked it indeed [14:12] antiwire, yes. that might be the case. but i can't tell what i've done wrong. [14:12] Keiffer: you didn't follow the directions for luks setup. [14:13] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:13] Keiffer: you must create the luks volume and open it, then copy the content from the old /home into the luks volume. [14:13] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:13] make the crypted vlume /home/keiffer and mount that [14:13] i did that [14:13] then delete the old /home (after backing up) [14:13] rrh_ (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [14:14] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) joined ##slackware. [14:14] XtoTheZ (n=xx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:14] netwolker (n=netwolke@151.53.30.203) left irc: "Leaving" [14:15] i had sda6, backed it up. logged in with another user, whose /home is on /. filled sda6 with random, created luks volume, copy data, closed it. and deleted /home backup [14:15] So what are you expecting to see happen then? [14:16] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:16] Are you expecting to make it so that after the system boots no user can see /home? [14:18] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:18] i expect that i, and only i, can see the ecrypted home. not from a live cd or Ubuntard [14:19] when the liveCD boots, are you entering your luks passphrase? [14:19] nope. just booting [14:19] then the setup is not right [14:20] then you've done something wrong if you can still read the contents [14:20] yes. but my brains can't help me so i came to see you. [14:20] what that is, we have no clue since it takes us this long just to figure out wtf you're expecting [14:20] unless /home still exists on the other partition [14:20] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@90.34.233.202) joined ##slackware. [14:20] now, home is just on sda6 [14:21] my home i mean [14:21] ok, so there are files that are only on sda6 which you can see from livecd w/o luks passphrase? [14:21] I think you created a luks volume and copied your old /home to /dev/sda6 instead of into the /dev/mapper/device [14:22] kde 4.2 aint there yet [14:22] well its easy enough to test, mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/test [14:22] does it mount as cleartext? [14:22] Keiffer: do what mancha suggests and show us what happens [14:22] one sec [14:24] asks for password [14:24] for /dev/sda6 ? [14:24] roliveira (i=1000@95.69.24.132) joined ##slackware. [14:24] that makes no sense [14:24] Command failed: Device already exists [14:24] i think there's two homes [14:24] what was the command? [14:25] mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/test [14:25] mount asks for a password? [14:25] mount does not ask for a password [14:25] Keiffer: what are you doing, really? [14:26] hahaha [14:26] well, what did ask for a password then? [14:26] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.62.232) joined ##slackware. [14:26] what am i doing? i did what mancha said [14:26] Action: mancha checks out of this thread [14:26] it sais: Password: [14:26] Keiffer: you're bullshitting us somewhere [14:26] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-17-112.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:26] maybe he did sudo mount [14:27] uva (i=bno@118-160-164-22.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [14:27] antiwire... no. [14:28] Keiffer: umount everything that is related to this mess. just have / mounted for now [14:28] I am not bullshitting [14:29] ok [14:29] let /dev/sda6 have no part of it in use [14:29] swap unmounted [14:29] uh oh [14:29] now see what mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/test does [14:30] same: Command failed: Device already exists [14:30] roliveira (i=1000@95.69.24.132) left irc: "Leaving" [14:31] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:31] What does df -h say? [14:31] wertik_rus (i=500@95.24.249.255) joined ##slackware. [14:31] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [14:31] i show only on home -> /dev/sda6 1.9G 1.1G 820M 56% /home [14:32] dude. [14:32] hehe [14:32] rest are my other partitions [14:32] ok now we see. [14:32] it's clear right there [14:32] you have data on /dev/sda6 [14:32] well, i do. it's /home [14:32] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [14:32] lol mancha gtfo [14:33] i'm about to also [14:33] ? [14:33] Ephedrax_ (n=ta_maman@90.34.233.202) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:33] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-6-202.w90-34.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:34] i don't understand :( [14:34] yeah no shit [14:34] heh [14:34] lol [14:34] y0 fire|bird [14:34] samuelig (n=samuelig@73.pool85-57-132.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [14:34] y0 slackytude, how's it going? :) [14:35] why are you upset? [14:35] fire|bird, doing fine, just relaxing a bit. how about you? [14:35] slackytude: doing great, thanks. [14:37] antiwire: I'm frustrated, but i wont give up, the pidgin Chanel is such a disaster. would u plz telling me what ur problem was? is that the same error creating conference, which farsight cuzes or somethings else? [14:37] inman: No, we had it working but it was completely unstable and randomly worked or didn't. [14:37] antiwire, what's my problem? [14:38] Keiffer: After all of that it appears that mancha's theory was correct. [14:38] you have stacked /home mounts [14:38] antiwire: by both voice and video or just by video? [14:39] inman: both sucked [14:39] So, how to correct it? [14:39] Nick change: PurpleSmurf -> Quiznos [14:40] sometimes it would work and sometimes, using the same systems and software it wouldn't create sessions at all. In our tests, each system was using identical versions of all software [14:40] Keiffer, looks like you have two entries for /home in your fstab or sumesuch [14:40] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: [14:41] I think he has data in /dev/sda6 so when the liveCD boots and the dev mapper luks volume isn't mounted, he sees the data on the normal partition still. [14:41] /dev/mapper/cryptohome is also /dev/sda6 [14:41] so..... [14:41] of course a liveCD can see the normal sda6 [14:42] which also leads to the high probability of corrupting something, if it hasn't already happened [14:42] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:42] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:44] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:45] fire|bird: i demand that you demand to make me a damned cup of coffee as you deam dandy dude :P [14:46] hahaha [14:46] hi [14:46] Bassist (n=bass@41.233.196.159) joined ##slackware. [14:46] macavity: Umm, sir yes sir :P [14:46] Do I dare ask what happens if said demands aren't met? :P [14:46] i expect a result worthy only of a slackware user! [14:47] i will, naturally, pwn your box and downgrade it to genpoo [14:47] OHGODWHY? [14:47] antiwire: it should be than the pidgin issue cuz as i know aMSN use farsight too, but what is the issue i dont know, i had to read more. my own twitter plug in wont work too when i run pidgin with vv enabled, i dont know what they did, on this version!! [14:47] That's cruel and unusual punishment [14:47] because i am an evil SOB with extra icin :P [14:47] apparently. :P [14:48] *icing [14:48] ok, kidding aside, we just found the really good gourmet shit on sale: grind-it-yourself-coffee for about $5 per pound [14:48] .. for the really cood biodynamic shit [14:48] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:48] *good [14:48] waiting for the pistion [14:49] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [14:51] That's cheap coffee. Arabica or what? [14:51] explore (n=msparker@173.57.115.183) joined ##slackware. [14:51] init[1] rings 0..3, not 1..4 [14:51] Given the price, it's most likely the "or what" [14:51] Quiznos: wrong channel :P [14:51] no; lazy. [14:52] :) [14:53] ask em about Minix3 [14:53] Bassist (n=bass@41.233.196.159) left irc: "Leaving" [14:53] mr_patterson: Arabica beans grown in Java, Indonesia and Collumbia [14:53] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [14:54] Action: macavity has a coffeegasm [14:55] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [14:55] mr_patterson: actually Denmark is pretty cheep on quality coffee compared to other contries [14:57] reeb|zor (n=reebte@65.242.34.82) joined ##slackware. [14:58] how can i configure in kde so on the mouse pad i can click anywhere on the mouse pad as left click ? right now I have to click in the corner but the button on this dell netbook is part of the mouse pad so the curser moves every time i left click [14:58] Benjsh__: that is odd behaviour [14:58] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [14:59] Benjsh__: what you want to do is what happens as default to mostly everyone else [14:59] Benjsh__: so i would start examining which driver is in play on the kernel side and the xorg side of things? what does dmesg say? what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say? [14:59] I need to, basically, use two different bootdisks based on my setup. lowmem.i and old_cd.i... Is there anyway I can sortof combine the two? I cant boot to the setup with lowmem.i but then it doesn't have support for my parallel port connected cdrom drive [14:59] muumi (n=kkorhone@82.114.68.18) joined ##slackware. [15:00] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [15:00] macavity: I do like a good cup of coffee. [15:00] I can* boot to the setup with lowmem.i [15:00] hmmmm [15:00] macavity: Regardless of where the beans come from :D [15:00] it is not as much where it comes from.. its the sort [15:00] basically there are only two sorts in modern coffee industry: Arabica and Robusta [15:01] macavity: Yes, more importantly, what you said. [15:01] "java" coffee is also Arabica [15:01] 2sec [15:02] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) joined ##slackware. [15:02] when i look in Xorg.0.log for mouse it says [15:02] intel silen mouse enabled [15:02] config /hal adding input device machinthos mouse button emulation [15:04] "silken" [15:04] muumi (n=kkorhone@82.114.68.18) left irc: "leaving" [15:05] Benjsh__: try looking in /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf [15:05] please see output [15:05] from Xorg [15:05] pastebin it then [15:05] http//psatebin.ca/1565856 [15:05] then goto xorg channel :P [15:06] http://pastebin.ca/1565856 [15:06] psatebin?!? [15:06] will you pay attention to what you are typing? [15:06] when i look in /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf i dont see anything # infront of all lines there [15:07] exactly [15:07] so what could be the problem? [15:07] it is a dell mini 10v [15:07] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:07] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-13-10.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [15:07] try options psmouse proto=imps [15:08] yes just trying it and restarting X [15:08] 2sec [15:08] you need to unload psmouse and loading it again [15:08] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-6-202.w90-34.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:08] it is same as before [15:08] no changes at all [15:08] thanks again antiwire, alienBOB - I think I am on the way to understanding now [15:08] i uncomment the psmouse [15:09] sorry, i don't see any familiarities with modules in modprobe and your ones in xorg.conf. You should more carefully choose your mouse when xorgconf-ig [15:09] heh, how funny... i saw a player named Macavity when i was playing ffxi this weekend [15:09] the problem is on this dell mini10 that the left and right buttons are build it to the flat pad [15:09] did you unload the psmouse module? [15:09] and load it again? [15:09] ... [15:09] so when i click left button it moves the curser [15:09] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-13-10.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware ("Fades out Slowly"). [15:09] macavity: i will just reboot to make sure it is laoding [15:09] just shut down X, then modprobe -r psmouse, then modprobe psmouse, then startx [15:10] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-009-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:10] and after this you need to study the modprobe(8) manpage [15:11] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [15:11] i just rebooted now [15:12] :P [15:12] actually, what happened to men? anyone anymore do searches for similar problemes on the net first [15:12] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:12] same problem [15:12] so, is it evdev or synaptics that graps the driver in Xorg? [15:12] if i click the left button it moves the curser [15:12] so it is a nightmare to use the mouse [15:12] and is this slackware 13? [15:12] it is slackware 13.0 [15:12] on mac mini10v [15:13] also every time i reboot the X11 dont remember the resolution so it reset on every reboot [15:13] you said Dell mini10 above [15:13] could i have you try to move the xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup? [15:13] and restart X? [15:13] there is no xorg.conf file [15:13] :( [15:13] in /etc/X11/ [15:13] ok.. then it is probably time to make one in your case :P [15:13] how to make one [15:13] *most* people wont need one [15:13] when i goto system settings and set resolution [15:13] lol [15:13] lol :D [15:13] then it dont make one [15:13] and it dont remember my resolution [15:13] i need to set resolution after every reboot [15:14] this is not windows [15:14] so please, get used to the fact that in slackware you configure things with a text editor' [15:14] that's fantastic [15:14] i got this netbook specially without windows just to use linux [15:14] then why didn't you just stick to ubuntu? [15:15] i dont want to use ubutnu [15:15] so it is rebooted now [15:15] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:15] how do i make the xorg.conf file? [15:15] MarderIII (n=MarderII@83.162.26.38) left irc: "leaving" [15:15] you probably don't realise that you _do_not_want_to_ use salckware [15:15] Benjsh__: i guess it wont help you sh*t if i tell you to just go by xorg.conf(5) and evdev(4)? [15:16] there is a xorg.conf-vesa file there [15:16] is there an xconfig tool so it creates the xorg.conf file [15:16] :DD [15:16] Try xorgsetup [15:16] if i'd had op here, someone would be kicked for trolling [15:16] is there not a graphics one [15:17] I see no troll [15:17] then how come any know about xorgsetup, xorgconf, xorgconfig [15:17] Hey guys, I need to load a module for a parallel port cdrom drive after booting from the lowmem.i kernel. Can anyone help me? [15:18] ok i did the xorgsetup [15:18] and maybe about reading man xorg.conf as it was said here [15:18] mouse is the doing the same [15:18] reeb|zor: What part are you having problems with? [15:19] i still havent figured out if it is evdev or synaptics that graps the device [15:19] as the pastebing url was broken... [15:19] *pastebin [15:19] godling: when I select my source media, it cant find my parallel port cd rom drive. Likely because the kernel I used (lowmem.i) doesnt have support for it. [15:19] when i goto display system settings and set another resolution why dont it save this resolution to xorg.conf [15:19] i have to set it on every reboot [15:19] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:19] Benjsh__: did you observe that it dumps the xorg.conf file in the directory you were in when you typed xorgsetup?!? [15:20] yes it made xorg.conf in /etc/X11 [15:20] so that is fine [15:20] edit it [15:20] see what is going on [15:20] but when i set the resolution it dont get saved to the file [15:20] reeb|zor: that's probably because you haven't loaded the module yet. [15:20] reeb|zor: http://slackbook.org/html/system-configuration-kernel.html#SYSTEM-CONFIGURATION-KERNEL-MODULES [15:20] chthp (n=data@213-66-224-97-no22.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:20] Benjsh__: it does not work like that... [15:20] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65210be.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [15:20] reeb|zor: once you find out what module the device needs, you can load it using the commands you can read about at that url. [15:21] acidchild (n=ash@208.92.235.219) joined ##slackware. [15:21] chthp (n=data@213-66-224-97-no22.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware. [15:21] anyone remember the name of that encrypted or hashed arp protocol thats was in testing for release until ipv6 came out? [15:21] Benjsh__: what a single user does does not reflect the global defaults [15:21] ok now the mouse is fixed [15:21] it seems [15:21] with the xorg.conf file [15:21] i just need to fix resolution now [15:21] damn, i forgot acidchild :( [15:21] Benjsh__: now edit it in the resolution section [15:21] godling: thanks, I'll give it a shot [15:21] Benjsh__: *please* understand that you have to do that with a text editor... [15:22] in Section "ServerLayout" ? [15:22] or Section "Screen" [15:22] Necos: same heh [15:22] google is giving me everything but the webpage i found in the first place [15:22] Benjsh__: perhaps this is of interest to your mouse tap problem: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/touchpad-doesnt-click-anymore-after-updating-to-current-732251/page2.html?highlight=synaptics+xorg.conf+tap#post3679227 [15:22] Action: Dominian slaps acidchild [15:23] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 105 (No buffer space available) [15:23] Benjsh__: http://pastebin.ca/1565874 [15:23] Benjsh__: also, if you want to play with an external monitor and run KDE, try the krandr program - that makes it easier while in KDE4, to configure your screens dynamically [15:23] hello Dominian [15:23] Benjsh__: see the above (at the very bottom) for how to change resolutions [15:24] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [15:24] antiwire: would you plz give me a log form your pidgin by all filter? [15:24] sayyyy whattt????!!! [15:24] no krandr [15:25] macavity: how can i know if that config file works on this system? [15:25] just try it Benjsh__ [15:25] vaibhav (n=landy@59.96.41.110) joined ##slackware. [15:25] it can't hurt anymore than you've already screwed things up :P [15:25] Benjsh__: it does not.. you are supposed to study it untill you find out which parts you have to DO YOURSELF on your system [15:25] Benjsh__: it just shows you *how* to add a given resolution [15:25] noisesinmyhead (i=hadriel@94.26.46.30) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [15:25] Well krandrtray it is in fact [15:26] Benjsh__ is still in a Slackware apprentice stage macavity ;-) [15:26] He is learning [15:26] that's a perpetual stage, alienBOB [15:26] ;P [15:26] Hi, My home directory turns into read only filesystem after i use it for a while. what could be the reason? [15:26] o_O [15:26] godling: you all were Slackware noobs at some point ffs [15:26] er [15:26] hardware failure/FS corruption [15:26] vaibhav: Unless someone is remountin gin ro [15:27] yeah or what fred said [15:27] fred knows from experience [15:27] Action: Dominian ducks [15:27] but what is the purpose of the config tools in kde if by using them they dont save the configuration ? [15:27] Action: fred slaps Dominian [15:27] alienBOB: um, yeah, I know. I basically just said that everyone is always learning about Slackware. I think you misunderstood. :) [15:27] _bruno (n=bruno@200.145.37.66) joined ##slackware. [15:27] Dominian: i am not remounting it as ro [15:27] godling: OK [15:28] fred: how can i know that the FS is corrupt or there is some hardware failure [15:28] This channel is getting too hostile toward new Slackware users these days. I am getting a bit touchy [15:28] alienBOB: i know.. that is why i am throwing an examble at him, rather than a bitesize solution ;-) [15:28] alienBOB: if you ever happen to come and ask me for anything i will deliver as ready-made a "product" as possible.. because i know that if you ask you must be either up to your neck in troubles, or hard pressed for time [15:28] elops (n=ramsie@77.42.137.156) joined ##slackware. [15:28] what could cause a 2-3 minute stall at 'Starting udev: ' [15:29] alienBOB fair enough... [15:29] godling: actually, when alienBOB was a child, he fell into a cauldron full of slackware manuals and... [15:29] elops, dhcp usually [15:29] a misconfigured LDAP? [15:29] macavity: what you do is exemplary [15:29] heh [15:29] ok.. maybe alienBOB is right [15:29] though, that's fairly unlikely [15:30] So? [15:30] misconfigured LDAP? [15:30] elops, probably not [15:30] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [15:30] Benjsh__: if you will pastebin the follwing for me (and be sure to get the URLs right this time) i will have a look. [15:30] rg3: He didn't sell his soul to Pat V.? [15:30] is LDAP run after udev in 13? [15:30] elops, you got dhcp selected and dont get a address by dhcp? [15:30] Benjsh__: the output of "/sbin/lspci", /etc/X11/xorg.conf as it looks now, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log as it looks now [15:30] i always thought it was before [15:30] 2sec [15:30] Necos, huh, ldap? [15:30] Benjsh__: and tell me what resolution you want it to run [15:31] Necos: nope, hence fairly unlikely :p [15:31] macavity: lspci http://pastebin.ca/1565881 [15:31] Oh my goodness. [15:32] sm177y (i=1000@75-128-239-172.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [15:32] Why do people insist on taking pictures at Linux conferences? [15:32] fred: my laptop did shutdown improperly when its battery died...that may be the cause of corrupt file system? [15:32] Action: godling goes to wash his eyes with bleach [15:32] macavity: xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/1565883 [15:32] vaibhav: boot off a CD, run fsck. [15:32] well, CD or USB stick [15:32] Benjsh__: ah, excelent.. we have nearly identical hardware.. be prepared to watch KDE with a lot of fancy effects now ;-) [15:33] fred: thank you i will do that [15:33] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:33] vaibhav (n=landy@59.96.41.110) left irc: "Leaving" [15:33] vaibhav: whenevery ou shutdown improperly it almost always makes you fsck on reboot [15:33] grrr [15:34] macavity: xorg log http://pastebin.ca/1565886 [15:34] it is dell mini 10v [15:34] 1.6 ghz [15:34] the wifi card dont work either [15:34] so if i iwconfig [15:34] i dont see any wifi [15:34] one problem at a time Benjsh__ [15:35] basically i want a 1024 resolution on netbook and always a higher resolution when i connect external lcd [15:35] PuroOsso (n=PuroOsso@189.74.141.10) joined ##slackware. [15:35] but the mouse seems to work now [15:35] with the new xorg.conf from the config program [15:35] I would be curious to know if udev still stalls with acpi=off [15:36] elops, depends why its stalling.. never knew of a cse acpi was too blame [15:36] Benjsh__: 1024x768@24bbp? [15:36] guys, where do I set a proxy on slack? [15:36] PuroOsso, what kind of proxy? [15:36] http [15:36] use squid then [15:37] System settings [15:37] it's not a server, it's a client [15:37] duh [15:37] depends on WM and browser... [15:37] links [15:38] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-102-55.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:38] no WM [15:38] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [15:38] links --http-proxy [15:38] man links [15:38] PuroOsso: rtfm :P [15:38] macavity: yeah [15:38] but higher resolution on external lcd [15:38] like minimum 1280 [15:38] or higher [15:39] I'll try [15:39] PuroOsso: usually if you already have a proxy setup somewhere, you need to configure it within the respective client applications [15:39] thanks for help [15:40] Benjsh__: that is auto detected anyhow [15:40] oki [15:40] Benjsh__: as alienBOB said, use krandrtray for that [15:40] falx (n=flaviu@78.97.215.212) left irc: "Leaving." [15:41] must i start krandrtray manually every time [15:41] nah, most WM's have an autostart thingy [15:41] Benjsh__: http://pastebin.ca/1565899 [15:41] Benjsh__: compare that to your own [15:41] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:41] Benjsh__: as you can see, adding different resolutions is pretty straight forward [15:42] ok 2sec [15:42] godling, I know that, but I was wondering if there's any file where I can write proxy configs [15:42] not really [15:43] sorry my bad english [15:43] PuroOsso: slackytude is right [15:43] ncgty (n=gui@201.86.161.22) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:43] it says no screen found [15:43] when i start it [15:43] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [15:44] hang on.. [15:44] Action: sm177y has always hated the idea of trash cans and recycle bins... [15:45] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [15:45] ok [15:46] and you are sure there is a line break at the end of the file? [15:46] vantech (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [15:46] i cant force a terminating linebreak on pastebins [15:46] how does the line break look like [15:47] EndSection [15:47] and then 2 blank lines under it? [15:47] just one [15:47] it doenst matter how manyu [15:48] as long as you an move the curser below EndSection$CURSOR_MUST_NOT_BE_STUCK_HERE [15:48] ok let me try [15:48] 2sec [15:48] ok now it starts up [15:48] :-) [15:48] with the blank line [15:48] that was a parse error [15:48] probably the most annoying bug EVER in xorg ;-) [15:48] on the lcd it all looks good [15:48] but the screen on the netbook looks crazy [15:48] i can only see one big window on the netbook [15:49] so it is like it runs this resolution netbook also [15:49] is it possible on netbook it run low resolution and high on the lcd [15:49] uhm, can i have you unplug the external monitor? [15:49] ok 2sec [15:49] restarting x with no screen [15:49] samuelig (n=samuelig@73.pool85-57-132.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [15:49] and again, what is the *native* resolution on the netbook? [15:49] probably only 800x600, right? [15:49] ok [15:50] less than that likely [15:50] now resolution is fine on netbook [15:50] is it 800x600 with your config or 1024 [15:50] Benjsh__: what netbook? With my acer 10.1" if i have an external monitor plugged in, it doesn't treat it like a second device. [15:50] come again? [15:50] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:50] it is dell mini 10v [15:50] netbook [15:50] Might be my fault for not configuring it correctly. but i usually just use xrandr to turn off the netboo screen. [15:50] brand new got it today [15:51] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-152-34-93.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] now, without the external monitor, what resolution is it running? [15:51] at this very moment? [15:51] 1024x768? [15:51] yeah i think so [15:51] i use your file [15:52] dont think.. find out :P [15:52] 2sec [15:52] how do i see it [15:52] open up a terminal and type xrandr [15:52] its the one with the + [15:52] LVDS1 something-something [15:53] screeb 0 current 1024 x600 [15:53] * [15:53] ? [15:53] reeb|zor (n=reebte@65.242.34.82) left ##slackware. [15:53] lvds connected 10240x600+0+0 normal left inverted right [15:53] 800 or 600, just to be sure? [15:53] ok [15:53] mancha: * is current, + is preferred [15:53] so it disregarded my setting all together :P [15:53] so what must do now [15:53] hey mancha, how's it going? Have you given snownews a try at all? or raggle? [15:53] yes, and the question is what is running now, right? [15:54] fire, hey, i am an avid snow user now [15:54] mancha: yes, so you're right [15:54] Benjsh__: try and plug in the external monotor now, after X is started up [15:54] sm177y (i=1000@75-128-239-172.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:54] ok [15:54] Benjsh__: then use krandrtray [15:54] mancha: nice, it's working well? [15:54] nothing happens [15:54] when i put it in [15:54] my project is to fork to pipe to my gui iface which'll scroll ticker sryle [15:54] style [15:54] nothing is supposed to [15:54] press FN+f5 [15:54] oh. [15:54] nm [15:54] nothing [15:54] it is on F1 on this dell mini10v [15:54] fire, but if its anything like 2/3of my projects, it won't happen [15:54] but it dont switch to the other screen [15:55] mancha, 1/3 is a good ratio [15:55] mancha: there are two users here with fire* nicks :) [15:55] slacky, and that's probably an exaggeration :> [15:55] must i run the krandrtray [15:55] YES [15:55] godling: true, but the other one isn't talking. :P [15:55] mancha, Im around a 1/5 or so. I hope O_o [15:55] and it will never "switch to the other screen" [15:55] fire|bird: maybe he's mute, you insensitive clod. [15:55] why dont it load krandrtray automatic [15:55] haha [15:55] it is not a docing station [15:56] Benjsh__: because this is slackware.... [15:56] not we-do-it-all-automagically-behind-your-back [15:56] anyhow, give me a seccond.. GF calls for help [15:57] macavity: uh oh, you better run. :P [15:57] how can i set tit to run the krandrtray automatic? [15:57] he saidtit! [15:57] I guess he gets the booby prize, then! [15:57] fire, you use snow? how do you get rid of the ugly fuschia(tm) color for unread? [15:58] slackerpete_ (n=slackerp@host86-130-120-4.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:59] mancha: no, I don't. I have been using Thunderbird lately and had it handling rss, but I may install snow and mess around with it. [15:59] mancha: It could be your terminal colors affecting snow. [16:00] fire, it's highly scriptable too, so you can write up filters that'll turn non-rss feeds into rss-style for viewing [16:00] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-153-33-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:00] awesome [16:00] macavity: do you know a way when slackware startup like on ubutub it says Ubutun logo on start up and you dont see all text if it is possible to load the slackware image like in the lilo menu but all the way until xdm starts ? [16:00] Benjsh__, kind of [16:01] consider splashy [16:01] Benjsh__, you would need to either patch your kernel or use splashy *and* use the same theme for kdm or whatever [16:01] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] y0 Pig_Pen [16:01] Final Decision Made: XBMC rules. [16:01] hi [16:01] mancha: in the snow man page it says edit ~/.snownews/colors [16:01] Zordrak: cool, get lirc working with it too? [16:01] grr! brb, forgot screen [16:02] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:02] fire|bird: nope.. dont need it :D [16:02] Zordrak: cool [16:02] mancha: I am reading it online so I can't check it out myself [16:02] Zordrak, thats the Xbox thing? [16:02] godling yeah except they have a baskwasswards way to do it it seems, you redefine "fuschia" to be the color code you want [16:02] Zordrak: If I may ask, where did you find the slackbuilds for it? [16:02] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] fire|bird: The IR receiver presents itself as a USB keyboard and mouse [16:02] mancha: that's retarded [16:02] yep [16:02] wb Pig_Pen [16:02] fire|bird: googled [16:02] so i was looing for a smart way, else i go in an knock some sense into the source code [16:02] download the source and fix it? :) [16:02] Zordrak: ok. :) [16:03] :) [16:03] is the kernel already ready for splashy [16:03] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-170-230-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] splashy is entirely userland [16:03] so, yes [16:03] splashy even has slackware packages ^-^ [16:04] or what must i do to use the same slackware logo [16:04] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:04] with splashy [16:04] Ben first things first, get splashy installed [16:04] is it not included with slack 13.0 ? [16:04] nope [16:04] get it working then come back if you still aren't sure how to add your own pic [16:05] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) joined ##slackware. [16:05] where do i get slack 13 package of splashy [16:05] i only see debian stuff [16:05] fire|bird: FYI i used the same build that was sent to the Slackbuilds-users mailing list the other day [16:06] http://splashy.alioth.debian.org/wiki/slackware [16:06] Zordrak: ok, thanks. :) [16:07] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:07] ok [16:07] installed the package now what [16:08] dude [16:08] installed the /alien/slackbuilds/splashy/splashy-0.3.5-i486-1.tgz [16:08] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) left irc: Client Quit [16:08] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) joined ##slackware. [16:09] heri0n (n=heri0n@bas6-hamilton14-1279410884.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:10] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [16:13] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:14] a bit off, how do I find with 2 -name parameters? [16:15] or? [16:15] -or? [16:15] find . \(-name blah -o -name bleh\) [16:15] hm thanks [16:16] you'll get an error, probably, leave a sapce after the ( and before the \) [16:17] i always do that and then remember to add the space, heh. [16:17] find . \( -name '993hdda01*' -o -name '831jhdda01*' \) [16:17] :) [16:17] yep [16:18] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.227.140.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:18] i am glad you use unobfuscated filenaming conventions! :P [16:19] yeah, easy to remeber too [16:19] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:20] hrad_ (i=4e88b07c@gateway/web/freenode/x-agguahlwhyzvjnca) joined ##slackware. [16:20] Heh I forgot what that meant for a moment :D [16:20] obfuscate... [16:21] luckily there are many dictionaries available on the web. ;) [16:21] as far as HD performance, is it better to let the part I don't use without file system ? [16:21] Yeah, I had to look it up. ;) [16:22] hrad_, eh, if you dont use it, why give it a filesystem at all? [16:22] rar a -m5 chdspatched-up-v3v4.rar -vn -v2000000b @`find . \( -name '993hdda01*' -o -name '831jhdda01*' \)` [16:22] good command :D [16:22] what does the @ do? [16:23] isn't rar a proprietary binary blob that sends your credit cards to the winrar consortium? [16:23] also `` is depreceated or however its spelled [16:23] i love my backticks, though i know $() is moar better [16:23] rar is shareware [16:23] vrisplov (n=vrisplov@Access.Denied.uk.to) left irc: [16:23] slackytude: I know, I was just wondering if the performance would suffer a lot or just a little bit [16:23] it might shareware but its not open [16:23] show me the source luke [16:24] vrisplov (n=vrisplov@89.149.228.64) joined ##slackware. [16:24] http://xkcd.com/612/ best eva! [16:24] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-86-0-81-60.leed.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:25] heh! [16:26] jimi (n=jimi@68.166.53.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:27] I had to laugh out loud the first time I saw it ^.^ [16:27] vrisplov (n=vrisplov@89.149.228.64) left irc: Client Quit [16:27] vrisplov (n=vrisplov@Access.Denied.uk.to) joined ##slackware. [16:28] i seen it before a long time ago i believe [16:28] vrisplov (n=vrisplov@Access.Denied.uk.to) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:29] xkcd is good, when i first found that site i surfed a bunch of pages on it [16:29] did you see the one with the linux customer at best buy? [16:29] aye [16:29] maybe.... [16:30] slackytude: and is it ok to have swap on logical partition ? [16:30] another great think is the search function at xkcd. its kinda crap but still good [16:30] hrad_, aye [16:30] http://xkcd.com/272/ [16:30] heh, nice [16:32] but 612 is still me favorite [16:32] but I needs to go off [16:32] see ya slackers [16:33] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A7337E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone with the cursor" [16:33] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [16:34] wertik_rus (i=500@95.24.249.255) left irc: "Leaving" [16:34] CcSsNET (n=user@c-71-232-196-119.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:35] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436201.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:38] Fatalnix (n=bhodgins@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [16:38] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-0-81-60.leed.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:39] vrisplov (n=vrisplov@Access.Denied.uk.to) joined ##slackware. [16:42] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:42] what audio player do you guys use? [16:44] xmms here [16:44] I was using songbird... [16:44] but songbird doesnt work right for dbus yet [16:45] or whatever [16:45] xmms [16:45] mp3blaster when in console mode [16:45] i was thinking something more like amarok [16:45] but amarok has a lot of bugs still [16:45] p [16:46] vrisplov (n=vrisplov@Access.Denied.uk.to) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:46] eh [16:46] for just audio>? amarok is overkill for a frontend [16:46] i use moc moc.daper.net [16:46] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [16:47] Pig_Pen, not just for audio.. i mean something that you can manage albuns, artists, id3 renaming [16:47] a shelf? [16:47] Hey LnxSlck, how's it going? [16:47] hey fire|bird [16:47] fire|bird, nice.. and you? [16:48] xmms for audio, mplayer for video, easytag if i need/want to edit mp3 tags [16:48] great, thanks. [16:48] Pig_Pen, right on all, except for xmms, it's very minimal for what i want [16:48] actually xmms will let you edit tags [16:49] LnxSlck: So, what are looking for, an all-in-one type app for music management, tag editing, etc.? [16:49] fire|bird, yes.. something like amarok [16:49] hmm, any idea why my slackware desktop can't create new network connections [16:49] banshee? [16:49] kitchen sink [16:50] pprkut, humm.. i've used that in the past.. let me check that [16:50] open connections work but I can't make any new ones [16:50] for example I can't even ping google [16:50] banshee would need mono, fwiw [16:50] iirc [16:50] no idea, I use amarok [16:50] powtrix (n=powtrix@189.69.20.172) left irc: "fui" [16:50] pprkut: I'm going by memory from my Debian and Fedora days. :P [16:50] nor my lan server, all though I can get IP-address from the dhcpd [16:50] vrisplov (n=vrisplov@Access.Denied.uk.to) joined ##slackware. [16:51] Banshee was very, very, nice though [16:51] fire|bird, don't you get a lot of bugs in amarok? [16:51] like what? [16:51] LnxSlck: I don't, no. I recently built 2.1.80 and have been using that. [16:51] LnxSlck: anything specific [16:52] fire|bird, sure, like if i disable the search for folder changes, it removes the cover art [16:52] fire|bird, if i play with the local colection tree, it will stop working [16:52] fire|bird, thing like that [16:53] fire|bird, my amarok is 2.1.1 though [16:53] Well I'd say those are bad bugs. In a bit, I'll try with mine and see if it works right or not. [16:53] Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) joined ##slackware. [16:54] fire|bird, maybe they're fixed in your version [16:54] I wouldn't remember seeing such things (using 2.1.1 as well) [16:54] LnxSlck: could be. [16:54] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [16:54] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:55] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-30-97.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:55] LnxSlck: tried this? http://www.listen-project.org/ [16:55] LnxSlck: I can at least confirm the cover art disappearing. Though they seem to only disappear in the playlist [16:55] pprkut, yes [16:55] pprkut, but that doesnt make sense [16:55] elops (n=ramsie@77.42.137.156) left ##slackware. [16:56] and now they are there again, lol [16:56] lol [16:56] there are quite a few bugs [16:56] lol [16:56] fire|bird, thanks.. too bad most of audio players are for gnome (gtk) [16:56] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:57] what about juk? too basic? [16:57] pprkut, that's what i'm using now [16:57] pprkut, could need some improvements. but not too bad [16:58] PuroOsso (n=PuroOsso@189.74.141.10) left ##slackware ("o/"). [16:58] LnxSlck: yeah, I know, many are gnome ones. :P [16:58] feinoM (n=feinom@svale.hia.no) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:58] the bad thing about gnome's apps is 99% of them require gnome [16:58] fire|bird, and amarok it's just stubborn when regarding id3 tags.. [16:59] there's also minirok [16:59] LnxSlck: yeah, I've noticed that too. I'm trying to think, there was one other app out there that I used for music stuff that was really nice, I can't recall the name of it though. :P [16:59] let me se that [16:59] I always use musicbrainz for tagging. [17:00] and jerboa(-ng), but I don't know the current status of that one. [17:01] i'll see what slackbuilds has to say about those [17:02] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-33.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:02] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:03] you know when your GF is getting too involved in your intertube hobbies? [17:03] ... when you call her "my cute little lolkitten" and she smiles :P [17:03] lol [17:03] lol [17:03] macavity: A smile of "aww, that's sweet" or "argh, he called me that again" ? :P [17:04] fire|bird: the former naturally [17:04] :) [17:04] my wife has her own PC, but she does not have root on it= i do the admin on it [17:04] fire|bird: otherwise you would just have seen a "no route to host" in a few secconds ;-) [17:04] hahaha, I'm sure I would. [17:05] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-30-123.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:05] vantech (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: "Leaving." [17:05] my wife said you're all a bunch of stiking nerds [17:05] Pig_Pen: my GF has root on her own box [17:06] wtf? she included me in the group [17:06] Pig_Pen: now i just need to show her how to invoke it [17:06] rg3: lulz [17:06] stinking* btw [17:06] rg3: she's just jealous [17:06] rg3: tell her that she is 100% right (about the inclusion) [17:06] macavity: already did [17:07] she's a computer engineer like me [17:07] so she has her own machine and that [17:07] so she's a stinky nerd too [17:07] oh, so she is a stinking nerd TOO? [17:07] Action: macavity snickers [17:07] not really, she's in for the money, but i believe she actually hates computers [17:08] aawww [17:08] what a great match [17:08] poor computes :-/ [17:08] being operated by someone who hates them migh hurt their feelings [17:08] .. not that i havent tried actively to hurt the feelings of windows computers for as long as i can remeber.. but that's another story [17:09] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@213.63.2.51) joined ##slackware. [17:10] hey guys [17:10] hi Agiofws :) [17:10] what could be the reason of an app acting differently just because a different user is running it ? [17:10] Agiofws: configuration files? [17:11] archimandrita (n=pacus@82.213.181.141.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:11] maybe config in ~/ [17:11] basically i copied them over Pig_Pen [17:11] hmm [17:11] an alias? [17:11] or some config i missed [17:11] alais ? [17:11] no, alias [17:11] check ~/.local and ~/.config [17:11] agiofws@ixus:~$alias [17:11] alias ls='ls --color=auto' [17:11] only one i have [17:12] like I have an a lias for mutt that does mutt -f /home/dive/mail/blabla [17:12] env vars [17:12] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [17:12] http://codepad.org/oWGGDBaM [17:12] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:13] what about window mangers, is this other account using a different window manager? [17:13] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "caindo fora!!!!" [17:14] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [17:14] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:15] I guess it is not possible to change keymap with pkgtool [17:16] is it ? [17:16] you check setup? [17:16] hrad_: keymap in X or in console? [17:16] i dont know for sure becuse the stock factory settings is what i use natively [17:16] I chose qwerty_cz and it behaves really weird ... in console [17:16] slackerpete_ (n=slackerp@host86-130-120-4.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:17] hrad_: i believe you want... keymap [17:17] ? [17:18] yes I'd like to change keymap [17:18] hrad_: wow, i was off by much, it's "loadkeys" [17:18] without writing some script [17:18] hrad_: read and/or modify /etc/rc.d/rc.keymap [17:19] thank you [17:19] us-qwerty ? is the default ? [17:19] http://www.youtube.com/v/SMWi7CLoZ2Q <- prepare to headdesk! [17:20] nopes, i suppose that depends on the country, i use "es.map" for my spanish keyboard [17:20] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [17:21] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.190.154) joined ##slackware. [17:21] hello [17:21] EgoX (i=Old_Scho@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:22] don't know why, but for 4 years the default us qwerty keymap has been OK with automatic international support in X for my czech keyboard...I just wanted to try, but I can't think of any case I'd need to write czech in console :) [17:23] nix_chix0r, my pony, where are you hiding it? [17:23] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-30-97.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:23] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [17:24] hello metrofox [17:24] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) left irc: "Leaving." [17:25] www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMWi7CLoZ2Q in case you dont like full screen :P [17:25] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [17:25] Agiofws_ (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427638.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:26] hello macavity [17:26] Agiofws_ (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427638.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:27] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.207.18.114) joined ##slackware. [17:27] http://failblog.org/2009/09/14/texas-stadium-fail/ <-- why you do not use Windows for anything mission critical! [17:28] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.227.140.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:28] adupuis__ (n=adupuis@80.12.81.23) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:28] LOL [17:28] archimandrita (n=pacus@82.213.181.141.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:28] EgoX (i=Old_Scho@78.59.112.79) joined ##slackware. [17:28] vukovar (n=vukovar@CPE-121-220-83-97.lnse2.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [17:29] alphad64_ (n=quassel@41.207.18.114) joined ##slackware. [17:29] failblog.org rules [17:29] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [17:29] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:30] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:30] macavity: its good to see microsoft fail in front of thousands of fans [17:31] RockNRolla (n=RockNRol@unaffiliated/wrongdevice) joined ##slackware. [17:31] any one with Card: HDA ATI SB Codec: SigmaTel 92HD206X [17:33] Pig_Pen: MS had a *serious* slap over the wrist today [17:34] Pig_Pen: .. as IBM issued a statement that only emplyees who outright *need* MSoffice can get it.. everyone else must use Lotus Symphony or OOo and save their docs in OASIS [17:34] Pig_Pen: The fans, upon seeing that, probably said/thought, "Oh, I've had that happen at home" :P [17:34] yay [17:34] that is ~300k office licenses that wont be renewed [17:34] macavity: \o/, good to see that happening. :P [17:35] yes.. IBM has that many people [17:35] i gave ibm the downloaded corporate key to office [17:35] thats why they dumped it [17:35] warez for life [17:35] and it sends a strong signal about the maturity of "the alternative" products [17:35] flvr (i=0@host-93-182-19-84.real.kvidex.net) left ##slackware. [17:36] Kudos to IBM!!! [17:36] RockNRolla (n=RockNRol@unaffiliated/wrongdevice) left ##slackware ("Closing Chan |Spam|"). [17:36] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-436201.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:37] the town i live in is not even as big as IBM [17:37] I tried Symphony once when it very first was released, it was a very nice product. I don't know what it's developed into now though, I haven't tried it since. [17:37] next phase is to get it into the heads of the corporate meat heads that these are not "the alternative products".. but that MSoffice is the "not in compliance with official standards product", and that "our" products "were always the right choise if it wasnt for the unlawfull actions of MS" [17:37] Pig_Pen: haha, mine either. [17:38] anybody knows driver name for nVidia graphics card ? geforce8200 [17:38] fire|bird: it is signup-ware.. so, gratis, but not free [17:38] fire|bird: i am about to commence on a go-oo .SlackBuild [17:38] http://www.go-oo.org/ [17:38] Channel flood from macavity -- kicking [17:38] check it out [17:38] macavity kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:38] since IBM is a top tier IT company that decision to abandon MS-Office does say a lot [17:38] I guess nvidia could make it [17:38] hahaha [17:38] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:38] wb macavity [17:38] slackboy: GRRR! [17:39] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) joined ##slackware. [17:39] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:39] eheh macavity [17:39] macavity: cool. I've heard of go-oo, but never tried it. I'll check it out. [17:39] lns40 (n=snL20@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [17:39] _bruno (n=bruno@200.145.37.66) left irc: [17:39] mesi (i=1000@200.52.177.190) left irc: "Saliendo" [17:40] macavity: interesting [17:40] macavity: and with the Symphony, when it first came out, I had signed up for it to try it. I have had an IBM account for a while from when I had IBM Aptivas, you needed an account to get updates, etc. [17:40] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [17:40] i might make packages for CPUs with different instructions.. from what i hear OOo (and thus deriatives) benefit a lot from sse2 and sse3 instructions [17:40] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui pra casa" [17:41] lee555J5_ (n=irchon@166.137.5.47) joined ##slackware. [17:41] fire|bird: right.. "we dont need their stinking wares" :P [17:41] fire|bird: but we do need their nice marketing efforts [17:41] lee555J5_ (n=irchon@166.137.5.47) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:41] :) [17:42] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [17:42] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.62.232) left irc: "Leaving." [17:42] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:42] alphad64_ (n=quassel@41.207.18.114) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:42] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.207.18.114) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:43] muumi (n=chatzill@82.114.68.18) joined ##slackware. [17:43] no resposible individual in IT is going to download pirated warez, too big a risk of a virus or trojan or some sort of malware [17:43] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:48] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:49] muumi (n=chatzill@82.114.68.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:50] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [17:50] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [17:50] archimandrita (n=pacus@82.213.181.141.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:52] NaCl: it is on slashdot.org if you want to "know more" :P [17:52] NaCl: or was it the go-oo thing that you find interesting? [17:53] adamk__ (n=adamk@c-68-45-151-98.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:53] macavity: go-oo [17:53] i belive it is affiliated with fedoraproject [17:54] hello, I have continuous problems on build programs from source, can any helpme? [17:55] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:55] adamk__ (n=adamk@c-68-45-151-98.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:55] macavity: the main developer has a @novell.com e-mail [17:56] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:57] ah [17:58] mr_patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-rxrnbqkafngssaor) left irc: "Page closed" [17:58] archimandrita: that is a very broad question. every source build? nine out of ten source builds? what happens? what version slackware? is it a full install? what errors are you getting? give an example: which ap(and version of the ap) build failed on you and what is the error output? what version of slackware are you running? have you been screwing around with gcc packages? is this a stock install? has it just started to happen and worked bef [17:58] anyhow, i belive this will put an end to the "we use magic, voodoo and sometimes even gcc, to produce binaries" [17:58] xxjx (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: "Leaving" [17:59] macavity: yeah, they always forget the goat. [17:59] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:59] and the lemons. [17:59] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:59] if you next sentense has the word "party" in it, i WILL call your doctor :P [17:59] anyhow.. afk to watch a movie [17:59] ¬_¬ [18:00] explore (n=msparker@173.57.115.183) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:01] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [18:01] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) joined ##slackware. [18:02] ok, the slackware version is 64 current, and the problems buildding aplications it is with cinepaint an iccexamin, but I have problems building usually [18:02] http://pastebin.com/d330b0e18 [18:03] bash-3.1$ cat /etc/slackware-version-Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 [18:04] archimandrita: are you using slackware64 (official 64 bit?) [18:04] yes [18:05] anyone here running slackware64 want to chime in anytime , I am prying information ut here to get the ball rolling for this guy... [18:05] archimandrita: what versions of those two apps are failing? [18:06] archimandrita: maybe someone here (who is running slackware64 -current)has tried to compile those particular apps on slackware64 current and we could go frm that point. [18:07] s/ut/out/ [18:08] iccexamin 0.38 0.44 0.45 0.46 and cinepaint 0.22-1 [18:08] archimandrita: The error is pretty clear. You are missing various headers, including oyranos.h. [18:08] archimandrita: Did you install oyranos? [18:08] ough [18:08] who knows someting about subtitles in .idx files? [18:08] never seen this stuff before [18:08] (never seen/used external subtitles before) [18:09] oyranos it's correctly [18:09] I know [18:10] and her dependences fltk and ftgl libxml I [18:10] some help with hw raid pls [18:11] any thoughts abot kde4 : kwin ( effects ) vs compiz ? [18:11] archimandrita: So where is the oyranos.h header installed? [18:11] # [18:11] icc_oyranos_extern.h:37:21: error: oyranos.h: No such file or directory [18:11] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:12] Mrs: They both have their plusses and minuses. I've found compiz to have more useful plugins (enhanced zoom, negative) and to be more configurable. [18:12] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.187) left irc: "I'll Be Back!!" [18:12] archimandrita: lines 147, 148 and 149 seem to give clues. [18:12] Mrs: On the other hand, the kwin effects integrate with KDE better and compositing can be disabled without having to stop kwin. [18:12] locate = /usr/include/oyranos/oyranos.h [18:12] i stuck with it. I like compiz and its freedom but kwin seem more stable ... hard to tell for teh momet ( aarrg) [18:13] Mrs: And, of course, the version of compiz that comes with slackware 13 is a year old, and is *only* compiz, so it's missing many plugins, and has no easy method of configuration. [18:13] Mrs: You can get a newer version from slackbuilds, I believe. [18:13] seems also that kwin ( with effects ) slows down the experience or is it just me ? [18:13] Actually, I've personally found compiz to be more stable. [18:14] i am not after teh eye candy, I just want to work with my system. But still it is hard to resist [18:15] Mrs: depends on the graphics card, and not neccessarily in a way you'd expect [18:15] compiz does have its issues with teh pager system, It nether tells wich desktop your on. I hate that [18:15] oh got nvidia GT6600 works fine here [18:15] (my intel X3100 GMA outperforms my 8800GT on KDE4) [18:15] dtanner: in the past I use the slackware12, in 12 (x86) I haven't problems building. Include Iccexamin [18:15] http://sundrania.com/sites/default/files/images/59.jpg hahahahahahahahahaha!!! [18:16] i actually installed some stuff if 12.2 ( compiz) works nice, but still merals has its ... glitches [18:16] emerald that is [18:16] Mrs: The pager works fine if you start compiz with KDE, rather than after KDE is running. [18:16] Mrs: And you have to set the number of desktops to 1 since compiz uses viewports and not desktops. [18:16] guess so, as I said still playing with it. [18:17] Fatalnix (n=bhodgins@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:17] afterall feels like kde 3.5 works still faster, but for some reasons i am drawn to its "eyecandy" [18:17] of kde4 [18:17] fred: I've got the GMA in my laptop [18:18] fred: It's relatively nice. [18:18] i am sad. Cant install slack 13 on my laptop ( ati xpress 200m ) :) [18:18] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:19] well i could, but the ati drivers do not support xorg 1.6 :( [18:19] kazuya- (i=kazuya@2001:470:8:18b:0:0:0:65) joined ##slackware. [18:19] Mrs: Sure they do. [18:19] Oh. [18:19] Wait. [18:19] You're using one of the cards they made legacy. [18:19] kazuya- (i=kazuya@2001:470:8:18b:0:0:0:65) left ##slackware. [18:19] The open source drivers work fine on that GPU, though. [18:19] no they dont. the lates driver 9.3 dows not support xorg 1.6 [18:20] Right, but 9.3 is not the latest, just the latest for that GPU. [18:20] no dual screen, no 3d acc [18:20] Sure, dualscreen and 3D acceleration with the open source drivers. [18:20] kazuya- (i=kazuya@2001:470:8:18b:0:0:0:65) joined ##slackware. [18:20] but ati dropped support for teh xpress series. so It will not work. I tried ........ [18:20] It *will* work with the open source drivers. [18:21] there is absolutely no way to start X with geforce 8200 [18:21] no device detected [18:21] how to use the radeon driver with dual screen setup and xorg with xorg 1.6 ? [18:22] Mrs: Well, right off the bat, Xorg 1.6. should detect that GPU and start up without an xorg.conf file. [18:22] nether got ot to work .. :( [18:22] Mrs: You can use xrandr to enable an external monitor. [18:22] And 3D acceleration should just work. [18:22] hrad_: Are you using the drivers from nvidia? [18:22] it wil load teh radeon oss driver and I can use the system. But dual screen .... nether worked for me [18:22] kazuya- (i=kazuya@2001:470:8:18b:0:0:0:65) left ##slackware. [18:22] I tried "nvidia" and "nv" [18:22] dtanner: I work in rebuilding oyranos, thanks [18:23] I just installed it [18:23] Mrs: I've done it on an Xpress 200m. [18:23] really ... how ? [18:23] Mrs: Pretty much exactly as I told you. I started X without an xorg.conf file, and enabled the second monitor with xrandr. [18:24] i tried configuring 2 screens in xorg but failed all the time [18:24] Mrs: Then you weren't doing it right :-) [18:24] Mrs: Configuring two monitors changed recently with the implentation of xrandr. [18:24] if it worked for you it will work for me. .... its playtime again :) [18:24] I have never make it via xrandr [18:25] adamk_: pls what do you suggest ? [18:25] as far as the nvidia driver [18:25] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-102-55.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:26] well i do not need 3d acc, just big screen ( xinerama ) with 2 LCDs. If you have done it, i will too :) [18:26] ..... PS: I hate ati [18:27] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [18:27] wonder if adobe ever fixed their pdf reader so it works nice with xinerama [18:27] inf (n=infidel2@pool-173-58-199-136.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:27] actuallly nether had an issue with adobe rader and xinerama [18:27] damn thing opens every dialog box dead-center of the xinerama 2-monitor area, meaning the OK and Cancel buttons (or whatever) will usually be on different monitors [18:27] i just created a crontab that is set to run daily, starting 5 minutes from the time i set it, and it didnt run today. is that normal or does that mean it didnt work? [18:27] and any text in the dialog box will be split across the 2 monitors, too [18:28] an open-source app would probably require a 1-line code change + recompile to fix such behaviour [18:28] omg, I hoped I wouldn't have to compile at least graphic driver [18:28] firedix (n=firedix@200.82.13.38) left irc: "Leaving" [18:29] hard > dont be scard of garaphics drivers, they are your friend ( except for ati drivers ) [18:30] btw does anyone know of a good JAvascript XML tutorial. working on a project here ( no php, no mysql) only JS and xml [18:30] 4 years with the laptop intel basic adapter and I have never had any problem [18:31] nm [18:31] inf (n=infidel2@pool-173-58-199-136.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [18:32] Mrs: do you code Java? [18:33] javascript and java are not the same [18:33] this project is about JS and XMl only. It should resamble php experience. But I only have to use JS and xml + html [18:33] kind of a challenge here [18:33] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:33] abd YEs sometime I do [18:33] ok, google web toolkit would be Ok if you were [18:34] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [18:34] mhhhh [18:34] compiling webkit takes forever... [18:34] crap [18:34] lol [18:34] LnxSlck: going to try a webkit based browser? [18:35] fire|bird, nope, just getting exaile with better support [18:35] ah, cool [18:35] i've been compiling it for like 30 min [18:35] damn [18:35] I tried it on a simple project and I can't complain [18:36] LnxSlck: yeah, it takes a while. [18:36] hrad_: I try to avoid the nvidia driver, personally. You may want to try asking on the nvnews linux forum: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14 [18:36] fire|bird, maybe i'll take the opportunity to use webkit in some browsers [18:37] adamk_: thank you [18:37] LnxSlck: midori or arora are very nice ones [18:37] fire|bird, do you use them? [18:37] i spit up an entire glass of milk all over my dual monitor setup, keyboard, and glass desk this morning. [18:37] well it needs to be done for a company wich wants dymamic pags based on JS and xml client side. Kind of works but still needs improvement [18:38] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [18:38] LnxSlck: off and on, yes. They do have a nice speed increase :) [18:38] fire|bird, nice.. i normally use ff, it has some addons i really like [18:39] LnxSlck: yeah, I've been using FF lately, before that konqueror, and before that opera for a very long time. :P [18:39] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: Client Quit [18:39] konqueror is very nice though. [18:39] fire|bird, yes it is, but lacks some support [18:39] like in gmail [18:39] archimandrita (n=pacus@82.213.181.141.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Connection timed out [18:40] lns40 (n=snL20@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Client Quit [18:40] I just access gmail via my e-mail client, which is thunderbird atm. [18:40] fire|bird, do you group emails like conversations? like in gmail? [18:40] I have them threaded, yeah. [18:41] fire|bird, how? [18:42] archimandrita (n=pacus@82.213.181.141.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [18:42] view->sort->threaded ? [18:42] LnxSlck: via Thunderbird, in the view menu you can choose to thread messages, etc. Also, there's a few addons to thunderbird for getting gmail like features. Not sure what they all are though. [18:42] k [18:45] adobe reader is up to 60MB.. wtf? [18:46] bloatware. [18:47] hey guys i am getting an error while i am trying to startx (kstartupconfig) not found.. where do I get this file ? [18:48] LnxSlck: try xpdf or gv [18:48] Pig_Pen, i use kpdf i like it, but what's up with that? simple app's tend to grow so much nowadays [18:49] i00nsu, can you run kdm? [18:49] i00nsu: slackware version? [18:49] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:49] kpdf is ok [18:49] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [18:49] LnxSlck: didn't try.. BP{k} 13 [18:49] i00nsu: (for slackware-12.2) /var/log/packages/kdelibs-3.5.10-i486-2:usr/bin/kstartupconfig [18:50] as bored developers search for ideas for features then tend to bloat up their projects [18:50] i00nsu: ... kstartupconfig is a KDE3 version.Otherwise it would be kstartupconfig4 [18:50] BP{k}: i trying to run 3.5.10 in slackVersion13 [18:51] Pig_Pen, you bet [18:51] i00nsu: 1) it does help if you tell the channel that. 2) see previous answer. [18:51] i just dont like kde4.. is slow and heavy .. and the main menu is stupid .. in my point of view (of curse) [18:53] i00nsu, you're right, it's your point of view [18:53] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:53] wotcha andarius :) [18:53] wotcha BP{k} :) [18:53] greetings and salutations to the rest of you ;) [18:53] LnxSlck: but where i can get the file (in the internet) or what packages have it? [18:54] greetings andarius [18:54] i00nsu: uhm .. I already answered that. [18:54] i00nsu, i believe BP{k} answered it [18:55] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:55] Oo .. didn't see the anser . can you please repete? [18:55] Mrs (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:56] i00nsu: (From slackware-12.2) /var/log/packages/kdelibs-3.5.10-i486-2:usr/bin/kstartupconfig [18:57] help with raid please [18:57] Action: BP{k} raids x1user beer supply. [18:57] what are we raiding ? [18:57] Action: andarius helps BP{k} :o [18:58] hw raid 0 slackware [18:58] hmmm . sorry but you didn't understand.. i am runing slack13 console mode and i want to install kde3.5. [18:58] obnauticus (n=l@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [18:58] http://slackwiki.org/RAID_Array_%28Hardware%29 i read this threat and do exactly as described but get lilo with 999999 [18:58] i dont have kde4 installled [18:58] got it BP{k} ? [18:58] i00nsu: no. I *do* understand. You are the one who can't understand my answer. [18:59] if you can't deduct the information you need, not my problem. [18:59] got *that* i00nsu ? [18:59] i tried on freebsd linux and slackware and no one can help me =/ ;( [18:59] you telling me a local path not a internet path .. what is the point? [18:59] nanne1 (n=nannes@host-78-14-125-213.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [19:00] archimandritas (n=pacus@82.213.181.141.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [19:00] archimandrita (n=pacus@82.213.181.141.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:00] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [19:00] andarius: do you got idea [19:00] i00nsu: how about using google? you now know what source package the file is from. IF you can't even deduct that slackware might have the source on *ANY* slackware-12.2 mirror...... [19:01] sorry if you take me wrong but i dont really understand your anser .. i am asking a external path to get the package that contain kstartupconfig script [19:01] *le sigh* [19:01] x1user: i understand what you are trying to do. i also understand i have not done slackware on hardware raid in a long time so am not one to lend a hand [19:01] file:///usr/doc/lilo-22.8 [19:02] i feel doomed [19:03] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC020C3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:03] kamaji_ (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:03] it should be a simpled anser if you tell me that the packages needed to run kde3.5.x is for exemple qt version X and kdelibs .. but ok, i guess ... you just can give indirect ansers :( [19:03] i00nsu: Slackware doesn't provide KDE 3.5.10 packages for slackware-13.0. If you want to use that, you will have to compile kde yourself. [19:04] as i am doing [19:05] which packages do you have compiled so far? [19:05] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) joined ##slackware. [19:05] just want to know the package that have that script . anyway, i will do as you tell .. google it [19:05] does everybody get a 404 @ http://freshmeat.net/ [19:05] qt4 [19:05] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [19:05] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) left irc: Client Quit [19:05] Pig_Pen: it works here [19:06] kdebase [19:06] Pig_Pen: 404 here [19:06] nothing more [19:06] i00nsu: which part of "KDELIBS" do you utterly, completely and consistently fail to understand? [19:06] http://imagebin.org/63861 [19:06] Pig_Pen: work ok [19:07] i00nsu: KDE3 kinda actually requires QT3 ( you know "3" <-> "3") [19:07] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427638.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:08] i think too .. anyway .. compiling kdebase give me an error that says my qt version was less than the needed [19:08] inman (n=aligp@p579B4F46.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving." [19:08] build qt338, then build kdelibs and be sure to use --disable-inotify or the build will fail, then build kdebase, then you should be able to log in to kde, the rest of the kde packages are optional [19:08] you think? [19:08] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:08] Nick change: nanne1 -> nannes [19:08] no.. i am a machine [19:08] ;) [19:09] welcome to the machine - pink floyd [19:09] any color you like :P [19:10] i00nsu: just out of sheer morbid curiosity .... have you ever even thought about looking at the KDE3 slackbuild as provided by Slackware? [19:10] Action: CaptObviousman wishes he had a Clue Bat [19:10] thats what i would do, use the slackbuilds from 12.2 [19:10] Action: fire|bird hands CaptObviousman a clue bat [19:10] Pig_Pen, beautiful song ;) [19:10] x1user: ultimately, you are. [19:11] hey look at that! [19:11] wish you were here is an excellent album [19:11] ask and ye shall receive [19:11] :) [19:12] no one can help me =/ [19:12] BP{k}: hmmm. nope.. i like to compile my self and see the compile progress .. make me happy [19:12] x1user: what is your problem? [19:12] my mom and dad compiled me [19:12] i00nsu: and how well does that seem to be be working out for you? [19:13] can install any os on hw raid 0 [19:13] cant [19:13] tried with slackware and bsd [19:13] x1user: what kind of problems are you running into? [19:13] Pig_Pen, where can I get your slackbuild? I'd like to try how you run ahah :D [19:13] salckware and bsd would not give the qualifier "any OS" [19:13] when i ins [19:13] :D [19:13] lilo choke with 999999 [19:13] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:13] when i install slackware [19:13] is great :) BP{k} .. and the anser i needed Pig_Pen .. thanks ! [19:14] the source code was destroyed as soon as i was installed [19:14] slackware and bsd is any os :) [19:14] x1user: whats it doing when you install bsd? [19:14] at boot:f1 [19:14] than not ufs [19:14] no /boot/kernel/kernel [19:14] x1user: what raid controller is it? [19:14] Pig_Pen, wait... Mmm, you're hiding something for me... Are you closed source? :P [19:14] the controler is ok [19:15] its a bootloader issue. have you made sure your boot priority is set properly in bios? [19:15] x1user: i didn't ask if it's 'ok', i said what is it [19:15] asc-29320lp u320 adaptec [19:15] darthmouth: i think it is something with the lilo, not installed on right place [19:16] yes that would be the bootloader [19:16] http://slackwiki.org/RAID_Array_%28Hardware%29 please have a look at this [19:16] the guy mention also this problem lilo 99999999 [19:16] x1user: when you were installing, what device did it show you as your array? /dev/sd something? [19:16] /dev/sda1 [19:17] x1user: humor me for a second and try booting from the install disc; then chroot to the mounted root directory that you installed; reinstall lilo that way and tell me what it says. [19:17] ithe devices are sda sdb [19:17] tried to edit the lilo with chroot already, how to preinstall the whole lilo [19:17] x1user: 'devices'? you have more than one array, or are those two disks part of your array? [19:17] i got only array [19:17] x1user: if you only have two disks, it means it's a fake raid, and you can't do raid0 on it [19:17] you got only what array? [19:18] raid 0 2X18 scsi [19:18] x1user: there is your issue. you can't do raid0 on it. [19:18] BP{k}: i am slow in mind.. not really perfect .. anyway .. heavy-metal is almost perfect .. and pink floyd of curse .. and brain adams like death metal lol [19:19] i00nsu: nooo really... we hadn't caught on to that!! [19:19] Action: BP{k} turns his sarcasm a bit back from 11. [19:19] tonight is a very 'special' night in ##slackware :) [19:19] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:20] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:20] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [19:20] ananke: hahaha, and the moon is only 19% full! ;) [19:20] why?! [19:20] vantech (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [19:20] x1user: because it's not a true hardware raid controller. [19:21] you have one of the crappy adaptect hostraid devices [19:21] ?! it is physcial controler, i dont understand [19:21] ah... [19:21] well will it work for raid 1 [19:21] ? [19:21] x1user: just because it's a physical controller, doesn't mean it provides a hardware raid. think of winmodems [19:21] i got it, but will it work for raid1 [19:22] if you got it, you wouldn't be asking those questions up to this point [19:22] ok so i didnot got it, what are my options [19:22] i wouldn't even bother enabling the raid functionality on that card. disable it, treat it as a normal scsi controller, and use software raid [19:23] so if i dissable the raid from the card setup, it will be like i got just two scsi drives [19:23] ironically enough, i had to do just that with three servers today. god forsaken sun v60x with adaptec 7920 controllers [19:23] indipendent [19:23] x1user: correct. [19:23] i feel fucked up [19:23] whatever you say [19:24] so i hope that will work [19:24] nositelicense (n=nositeli@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:24] so is that card complete waste, can i make it useful [19:24] it is useful. it's a scsi controller [19:24] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] but not raid controler [19:25] right? [19:25] so when i use the raid option on the controler, if got other sata driver for example? [19:25] sata drive * [19:25] sure, it probably rocks as an scsi controller, but sucks as a raid controller [19:25] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.111) joined ##slackware. [19:26] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:26] hm ok thanks for the enlightment [19:26] really [19:26] x1user: that last question made no sense [19:26] hope that this is [19:26] when i can use the raid option on the controler, in what case [19:27] go look at the better raid cards at newegg, the freakin things are more expensive than some motherboards [19:27] why is it called host raid [19:27] x1user: i'd suggest never [19:27] lol ;D [19:27] CK_MonkeyLord (n=afasdfs@116.44.192.14) joined ##slackware. [19:27] marketing drivel is why it was called raid [19:27] x1user: 'hostraid' is a line of adaptec cards. it's like asking why honda accord is named 'accord' [19:28] just dont get why there is the world raid, if i cant use it for this [19:28] word raid [19:28] x1user: because you're trying to boot from it. [19:28] marketing drivel, so they can say raid in the package specs (to sell the product) [19:28] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:29] CcSsNET (n=user@c-71-232-196-119.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:29] kamaji_ (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleep" [19:29] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:29] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Connection timed out [19:30] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:30] i have two PCs with sata/raid, i never bothered to even try them because they are cheap and i figure i would run in to the same problems you are running in to, so i just do the scsi/ide-sata controoler [19:30] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:30] x1user: considering it's not a true hardware raid, you can't boot from raid0 array, and it would require special drivers for anything else. that's why it's just easier to do software raid, which is vendor agnostic [19:30] ok, so i will take advice how to use that 2 drives, i mean partition scheme, i will use that server for routing, para/virtualization, and web server. I need a box for experiments. [19:31] and i guess i can still make raid 0 but at software level using the both drives [19:32] x1user: nope, you can't. at least not on the entire drives [19:32] beatzz (n=beatzz@cpe-72-183-220-239.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:32] i wish i was a Mad Scientist so i could do experaments too! ;\ [19:33] lol [19:33] http://methlabhomes.com/2009/02/meth-is-easy-to-make/ [19:33] ;) [19:33] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC020C3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:33] i got interest in security and system administration as well as coding [19:34] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:34] yes but using lithium for reduction, may cause you lab blow up [19:35] i suggest you pick up new keyboard. your current one eats letters [or is it you?] [19:35] i can buy here ephedrine [19:35] sorry, i need to be more mature and take care of this. [19:37] lol @ "hide the drug in the crank cases of their motorcycles" the heat would destroy the finished product i would imagine [19:37] ananke: you seem to be sys admin with a lot of years, can you tell me something about freebsd and should i try it [19:37] x1user: exploding meth labs are a common occurrence. [19:37] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:38] ananke: he just called you old. [19:38] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@79.54.69.19) left irc: [19:38] Action: godling steals ananke's cane [19:38] x1user: i don't manage any freebsd systems. as to whether you should try it, that's your call. [19:38] when i was younger i was playing with some primary explosives, but i got friends who was playing with drugs [19:38] godling: get off my lawn! [19:38] EgoX (i=Old_Scho@78.59.112.79) left irc: "Leaving" [19:38] m0o [19:38] ribbit [19:39] x1user: both are potentially mind-blowing experiences [19:39] dchmelik1 (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [19:39] adupuis__ (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:39] true [19:41] x1user, I'm also thinking about putting freebsd on one of my systems to give it a try again [19:42] x1user, not as a replacement for slack of course ;) but back when I tried it I do remember liking certain things over linux [19:42] i use slackware now on all my boxes [19:42] later [19:42] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [19:43] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:43] i am just afraid that i will spend time with freebsd that i should use to learn linux first [19:43] because most of the servers are running linux [19:43] x1user, it depends... [19:43] i00nsu (i=1000@85.139.235.122) left irc: "leaving" [19:43] yeah, that was one of the things I had trouble with on freebsd [19:44] I've been unable to re-install the nvidia driver since the kernel upgrade on my 12.2 system. Any clues as to how I can fix it? [19:44] it seems very familiar once you get to the shell, but then certain things just aren't on freebsd [19:44] i heard only about advantages of freebsd over linux [19:44] alsa for example [19:44] pig_pen you watched that video eh? [19:44] you know that 'dea offical' gets twacked outa his mind daily [19:44] well i am for linux for desktop/workstation [19:45] x1user, so you're thinking about using freebsd for server? [19:45] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:45] usr13 have you tried slkpkg? [19:45] or SBo? [19:45] yes, i want to learn [19:45] beatzz: slackpkg to install nvidia driver? [19:46] bingo [19:46] i love slackware because it is stable as hell, fast and let you learns [19:46] i actualy ment sbopkg [19:46] * [19:46] a lot of the things are done manual [19:46] beatzz: Was that for me? [19:46] [ in bed ] [19:46] sbopkg? [19:46] yeah [19:46] yes, have you tried sbopkg for the installation of the nvidia driver/kernel moduel? [19:47] and have you tried Shiner Bock? [19:47] nositelicense (n=nositeli@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:47] beatzz: No. [19:47] out of all the distributions of linux I've tried, I think slackware felt the most like freebsd [19:47] sure haven't [19:47] damn good beer [19:47] no druggie/biker in their right mind would stash dope in the crankcase of their motorcycle [19:47] :o [19:48] for what it's worth [19:48] usr13, get urself sbopkg, it is 1337 [19:48] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [19:48] LnxSlck: you still around? I was just messing with amarok and I disabled to watch for changes and the album art was still there. When you experience that issue, is it instant as soon as you uncheck watch for changes and apply it or what? [19:48] 1337? [19:48] fire|bird, yes its pretty instant [19:48] leet, elite [19:49] LnxSlck: ok, it didn't happen here. [19:49] pimp, hardcore, awsome, sick, the shiznit [19:49] all of the above = sbopkg [19:49] fire|bird, if i uncheck watch for changes on my colection it wil make cover art disappear [19:49] LnxSlck: It was the album art in the playlist that disappeared, right? [19:49] fire|bird, yes [19:49] good night [19:49] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:50] http://www.sbopkg.org/ [19:50] LnxSlck: ok, yeah, it works fine here. I guess maybe that bug was squashed. :P [19:50] fire|bird, yeah [19:50] LnxSlck: did webkit finish building? [19:50] fire|bird, but you're running a recent build of amarok [19:50] yeah, 2.1.80 [19:50] fire|bird, yes. now exaile works fine [19:50] fire|bird, mine is an older version [19:51] LnxSlck: ok, I'm just building exaile myself. :P [19:51] fire|bird, i used sbopkg [19:51] same here. just building a few deps I didn't have. [19:51] I already have webkit :P [19:51] hey does anyone know OTH where the listen/ no listen option for X11 can be modified? [19:51] fire|bird, lucky for you [19:51] LnxSlck: haha, yeah. [19:52] antiwire: /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? [19:52] no. [19:52] i tried -_- [19:52] how ya been [19:52] coffe ready for 3rd, [19:53] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:54] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: "leaving" [19:54] I wish I had enough money to buy a subscription :/ [19:55] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24.216.187.138) joined ##slackware. [19:55] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24.216.187.138) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [19:56] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [19:56] Does anyone happen to know the default username and passwords for the CUPS admin> [19:56] ? [19:56] damn >'s [19:56] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [19:57] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:57] bhodgins: it's root [19:57] bhodgins: the web interface? user = root password = your user's password [19:57] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [19:57] ah okay [19:57] thanks! [19:57] shit [19:57] i was gana say that [19:57] hrad_ (i=4e88b07c@gateway/web/freenode/x-agguahlwhyzvjnca) left irc: "Page closed" [19:57] but i was afraid i would be wrong [19:58] oh crap [19:58] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [19:58] got it [19:58] nositelicense (n=nositeli@67.49.45.203) joined ##slackware. [19:58] i need to brush up on my linux [19:58] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:58] im so outa linux shape [19:58] there we go [19:58] for the record I modified this: /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers::0 local /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp :0 [19:59] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-242-223-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [19:59] beatzz: start from learning english. it's a good way to get acquainted with linux [19:59] booyah! [19:59] hahahah! [19:59] xmonad is pretty slick on top of xfce [19:59] english! that language ive known since i was like 2 [19:59] that was halarious! [20:00] man my sides hurting! wow ur funny! [20:00] beatzz: now go look up that word [20:00] not... -_- [20:00] :p [20:00] seriously. go look up 'halarious' [20:00] hey, go learn how to cook meth [20:00] i posted the link earler [20:00] nullify (i=n@24-183-105-235.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:00] paissad-hp (n=paissad@134.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [20:01] ananke...isent that some..cartoon wolf or something? [20:01] from some lame ass disney movie [20:01] I think urban dictionary put it well: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=halarious [20:02] antiwire: yep [20:02] "a sarcastic half-retarded word derived from hilarious." [20:02] heh [20:02] lol [20:02] highlarious [20:02] wow, thats awsome [20:02] it's a hebrew word actually [20:03] beatzz: you mean "that's" right? [20:03] well all, i guess i better go study my spelling [20:03] sadly, that's the state of our youth. [20:03] BP{k}: and 'awesome' :) [20:03] yoots [20:03] im gettin hella critisied [20:03] w/e [20:03] Grammar Nazis in full force tonight. [20:03] "I'm" [20:03] beer > spelling [20:03] gg, i win [20:03] velusip: spelling nazis, thank you very much [20:03] gn [20:04] I've learned to read through typos and only correct those whom I care about. [20:04] exactly [20:04] for god sakes its irc.. [20:04] the point is communication [20:05] velusip: so you're saying that you don't care about beatzz? [20:05] :'( [20:05] theres a tear in my beer [20:05] Action: BP{k} has learned to type as correctly as possible. [20:05] Of course. [20:06] man, you try and get involved and be a part of a community that shares the same interests and passions that you do [20:06] i think it's quite sad when people are proud of their lack of ability to communicate properly. [20:06] and you get nothing but critisism and harsh words [20:06] they dont know it's pride tho [20:06] they think it's normal [20:06] beatzz: making meth is not something many people share with you as an interest [20:06] perhaps you misunderstood the reason behind me posting that link [20:06] beatzz you do NOT know who is in here reading your words [20:07] beatzz: i think you tried to explain it: '20:00 beatzz> hey, go learn how to cook meth' [20:07] it was a direct google search/joke for whoever said something about wanting to be a mad scientist [20:07] yop-lait (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [20:08] screw me for tryin to bring some realistic humor into this hella mean channel of linux / grammer gurus [20:08] that's my job ;) [20:08] I'll be right back =) [20:08] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.190.154) left irc: "Minni vaiu!" [20:08] try to do that in ##Politics [20:08] you'll get your words handed to ya on a plate [20:08] Nick change: MrJacks0n -> MrJackson [20:08] interesting. i didn't realize there was a 'realistic' genre in humor [20:09] yea umm; george carlin [20:09] Quiznos: oddly enough, i've never been there. one day i need to venture there and see it for myself [20:09] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:09] lurk [20:09] allright, w/e its obvious you are all some serious nerds who got the hell beat outa them as kids, so you have nothing better to do than be mean to those you find "not-as-smart" as you online [20:09] so i'll just quit dropin by here [20:09] if anybody, george carlin was a grammar nazi :) [20:09] it's :| [20:09] it gets quite raw; they are abit perverted [20:09] its obvious im not one of your kind. [20:09] beatzz dont [20:09] beatzz (n=beatzz@cpe-72-183-220-239.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Java user signed off" [20:09] oh well [20:09] lol [20:09] score one for the trolls? [20:09] wth did you say to him? [20:09] oh lol [20:10] 1337? [20:10] I usually try to write grammatically correct, but I'm not dogmatic about it. I just don't like coming off pretentious. [20:10] spelink correctly is not pedantic [20:10] lol [20:10] if you dont know how to write then dont try [20:10] Quiznos: i wonder that myself. he really did not the first comment about learning english, and it just went downhill from there [20:10] incorrect spelling is something that should be in the past though, considering we have spellcheckers nowadays :) [20:10] hrad_ (i=4e88b07c@gateway/web/freenode/x-tidlqgopjqkmarlp) joined ##slackware. [20:10] heh nods [20:10] my spelling and grammar has raped proper english many times [20:11] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.190.154) joined ##slackware. [20:11] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [20:11] Action: metrofox is back for your joy! [20:11] Back from where? [20:11] guys I can't ssh to the 13.0 slackware, my host is allowed in remote /etc/hosts.allow and it still refuses my connection....isn't there any catch? [20:11] velusip, from the moon, obviously =) [20:11] one thing is to make mistakes, another is to refuse to learn how to get better [20:11] I usually didn't do anything else [20:12] hrad_ << edit your sshd file and ensure your user is in the allowed list [20:12] hrad_: to ask the most obvious question: sshd is running right? [20:12] does ssh use tcpwrappers? [20:12] Quiznos: yes. [20:12] k [20:12] hrad_: : what happens when you run 'telnet host 22' from outside? [20:12] hrad_ did you recompile sshd after install? [20:12] metrofox << I didn't realize anyone has ever been to the moon. Congratulations! [20:12] zing! [20:12] sbopkg No package contains the selected pattern. [20:13] telnet works, connected to host ... SSH-2.0-openssh_5.2 [20:13] I don't know where the file is in slack... is it /etc/ssh/sshd.conf? [20:13] hrad_: and what happens when you try to ssh there? [20:14] velusip: /etc/ssh/sshd_config [20:14] aye, check that file for the allowed list [20:14] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [20:14] I don't have access to a slackbox atm to test it for you. :P [20:15] does anyone run gentoo in here? [20:15] just curious how it is these days [20:15] That's the one intended for cyrix based computers and older? [20:15] I've been unable to re-install the nvidia driver since the kernel upgrade on my 12.2 system. Any clues as to how I can fix it? [20:16] I imagine that it's still more work than it's worth, just as it always was. [20:16] danc3: Who was that for? [20:16] usr13: not without more information... why isn't it installing? [20:16] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-141-152-179-4.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] usr13: that other was for blackorca [20:17] y0 slackers...How's everyone? [20:17] hi [20:17] usr13: Which driver version are you trying to install? Is it the latest? [20:17] Getting out of another funfilled workday. Looking forward to the weekend. [20:17] almost all my ~user dirs have been consolidated. recovering empty partitions for combinage [20:17] velusip lol; already? damn man. [20:17] ERROR: No package found for installation. [20:18] usr13: ??? [20:18] usr13 what pkg? [20:18] nullify_ (i=n@24-183-105-235.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:18] Quiznos: nvidia-installer [20:18] do it manually [20:18] manwilly [20:19] usr13: Download the latest version that supports your card's chipset and run it as root. [20:19] ananke: Warning: Permanently added 'lisak,192.168.0.6' (RSA) to the list of known hosts. [20:19] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [20:19] and closes the connection [20:19] hey does anyone here know stuy? [20:19] antiwire: Tried that too,. [20:19] is that a nick? [20:19] its not that hard to get in if you have the grades, dont know what the big deal is [20:20] Quiznos, no, stuyvesant high school [20:20] o [20:20] hrad_: check the logs on that server [20:20] Stewy Griffin? [20:20] have heard that name in years [20:20] don't know what exactly modify in the sshd_config file...I set up the listenAddress [20:20] hrad_ << I'm not joking around by the way. [20:20] nope i dropped stuy hs but tons of people are crashing their heads on the keyboard saying its imposisble for me to not drop the high school [20:20] But continue to fumble with logs until you discover it yourself. [20:20] surrealgirl: could you speak English please? [20:20] Action: BP{k} wonders if running ssh -{v,vv,vvv} might be usefull [20:20] complex sentence [20:21] danc3, i am [20:21] is it possible to start my iptable script at a different time than when it is starting now? [20:21] multiple negatives [20:21] Quiznos is in ##Politics [20:21] yeah, well make it understandable English [20:21] people are saying its impossible [20:21] why impossible? [20:21] ahh, this time of the evening - our nightly drivel [20:21] "you dropped stuy? how could you? its the best school in the world" [20:21] heh [20:21] omg she's a minor [20:21] time to switch to the other network [20:21] Surrealgirl << Planning to drop out? It's not a bad idea. I did and was still able to continue higher education without incident. [20:21] kthxbai [20:21] velusip, im 22, im already in college [20:22] You can save more money by dropping out of that as well. [20:22] how do i change the order of scripts run at startup? [20:22] if i attended Stuy and didn't graduate there I would live in shame for every last day of my life [20:22] isnt' this channel for adults only? [20:22] velusip: strangely enough I don't have my username in sshd_config and can perfectly well ssh into my server. So it's really not required. [20:22] dchmelik1 (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:22] FathZippyZanny> Hey Son--only 5% of applicants got into to Stuy Considering about 8% get into Harvard, I would say that Stuy is highly selective [20:22] so basically im equivalent to a harvard student :) [20:22] surrealgirl: nobody cares about your high school adventures... this is ##slackware... [20:23] danc3, nobody is talking about slackware atm [20:23] well guys, it's 2:23 a.m. here, I gotta go now, good day ;) see ya later... [20:23] later metrofox [20:23] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.190.154) left irc: "Minni vaiu!" [20:23] surrealgirl: actually we were, before you hijacked the channel with kiddie crap [20:23] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [20:23] hrad_ is talking about slackware. he wanted help [20:23] BP{k} OK. I'm unfamiliar with what other flags must be set in order for that to work. [20:23] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:23] confirmed on Swayze; google news [20:24] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [20:24] he left the building [20:24] danc3, ok add me to ignore [20:24] no, how about you keep it on topic instead [20:24] no thanks [20:24] not with you here [20:24] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.17.249) joined ##slackware. [20:24] the HS kiddie chat channel is over there --------------> [20:25] how do i change the order of scripts run at startup? [20:25] dont [20:25] Reticenti: which ones? [20:25] The topic seems to be a small selection of web-sites related to Slackware Linux. Seems awfully broad. [20:25] archimandritas (n=pacus@82.213.181.141.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:25] ananke: i need to run iptables *after* i start my wireless iface [20:25] lol, surrealgirl you are equivalent to a Harvard student? how is that? [20:25] hey agentc0re [20:25] agentc0re, did you read what i c/ped? [20:25] y0 fire|bird [20:25] i would like to think that noobfarm says otherwise. [20:26] MLanden_lap: hey, how's it going? [20:26] Nick change: yop-lait -> [yop] [20:26] agentc0re, did you even read it? [20:26] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-242-223-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [20:26] fire|bird: sup dude? riding your motorcycle in the rain is not fun. [20:26] Reticenti: rc.M would control that, but it may be easier to do it by simply executing rc.firewall via rc.local [20:26] thanks for taking it out of context [20:26] ananke: what do you mean? [20:26] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [20:26] agentc0re: lol, I would assume not. [20:26] cool....just sortin' through slackbuilds....got abiword and evince installed [20:26] hrad_ (i=4e88b07c@gateway/web/freenode/x-tidlqgopjqkmarlp) left irc: "Page closed" [20:27] MLanden_lap: cool. I just installed exaile, but it isn't working. :P [20:27] Reticenti: chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall && echo 'sh /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall start' >> /etc/rc.d/rc.local [20:27] i don't read much, i am the equivalent to a rock. [20:27] Reticenti, why don't you just stick the iptables commands in rc.local? [20:27] fire|bird: what errors are you coming 'cross? [20:27] agentc0re: So, you're not a harvard student? :P [20:27] fire|bird: about 40mph the rain feels like small bebe's [20:27] haha [20:27] lol [20:27] MLanden_lap: I'll pastebin, sec. [20:27] bee bees [20:27] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [20:28] rrh_ (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:28] usr13: you still here? regarding your Nvidia problem... [20:28] LOL, wife just yells at me. "Ewww we caught another mouse, the trap snapped it's head open" LMAO!! [20:28] hahaha [20:28] lol [20:28] it's good to have a funi wife [20:28] You know, they don't learn if you kill them. [20:28] i can just hear that line; ewwwww [20:28] when does rc.local get called? [20:28] Darwin would ague, but we don't have a million years to test his silly theories. [20:28] Reticenti, it gets called last [20:29] velusip lol [20:29] MLanden_lap: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/cwhy0l30.html [20:29] Nick change: Kamel -> eddy [20:29] Reticenti: it gets called from rc.M, look near the end of rc.M [20:29] agentc0re: So, does the wife want to opt for more "humane" traps now? :P [20:30] ah, thanks witukind , danc3 , and ananke [20:30] fire|bird: what wm/de are you using? xfce or flux? [20:30] agentc0re does the wife yell at you or YELL at you? [20:30] hopefully iptables will work now [20:30] MLanden_lap: I'm using xfce atm. [20:30] Nick change: eddy -> Kamel [20:31] Holy cow that trap was brutal!!! who wants to see the pic? [20:31] btw... rc.inet2:70:# If there is a firewall script, run it before enabling packet forwarding. [20:31] there is already a method to hook a firewall script [20:31] agentc0re: surrealgirl does I'm sure. :P [20:31] fire|bird: nah.. she's cool with them dying. she hates them.. i just have to deal with the mess. [20:31] hahaha [20:31] agentc0re lol; mouse pr0n? [20:31] antiwire: i don't know what you mean? [20:31] ewwww [20:32] rc.inet2 is run after rc.inet1.... [20:32] that's the idea [20:32] agentc0re: and Quiznos :P [20:32] agentc0re, get some cats [20:32] Reticenti: I know what you mean [20:32] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [20:32] ok,fire|bird...rgvolume is with gstreamer-good-plugins http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/data/doc/gstreamer/head/gst-plugins-good-plugins/html/gst-plugins-good-plugins-rgvolume.html [20:32] haha, and there she goes. :P [20:32] witukind: my Dog eats cats... that option is out. [20:32] she's too nutty to be 22y [20:32] get a lion [20:33] or some small creature unappettizing [20:33] agentc0re, then you have to learn to your dog how to take care of mice [20:33] MLanden_lap: haha, that's it then, I missed that dep somehow. :P thanks. [20:34] lol.....friend had a bulldog that would eat field mice when not playing with 'em...:D [20:34] agentc0re: Just get a snake that can roam around and find some mouse dinner. :P [20:35] fire|bird: np...exaile's just tricky...'cause it's gstreamer based you might need to go through the list on what it needs [20:35] MLanden_lap: yeah, I went through and installed all the deps, so I thought, but missed the good plugins somehow, but I got everything else. :P [20:36] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:36] john_dee (n=id@93-81-116-191.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [20:37] hey john_dee [20:37] ok http://www.quibblo.com/quiz/2ktLx/who-r-u-bugs-bunny-or-daffy-duck-or-tweety-bird-or-sylvester [20:37] yo fire|bird. what's crackin? :p [20:37] fire|bird: ya, and me dinner. [20:37] personality quiz [20:37] fire|bird: dog's would probably kill the snake too. [20:37] Quiznos: what? no taz? [20:38] john_dee: agentc0re's mice's heads. :P trap did some damage. [20:38] fire|bird: I think you offended surrealgirl and made her leave... [20:38] agentc0re: Should I feel bad? :P [20:38] fire|bird: Congrat's! You've just completed the school of rock. [20:38] haha [20:38] MLanden_lap lol [20:38] yay i'm bugs bunny [20:39] MLanden_lap must be discrimcrimcrimcrimination [20:39] sue!!! [20:39] fire|bird: oh. what are guys doing here again? lol [20:39] yelsn (n=none@cm103-236.madisontelco.com) joined ##slackware. [20:39] john_dee: hahaha [20:39] loitering [20:39] (legal term) [20:39] lol....taz...like Daffy Duck....I'm a coward....but I'm a greeeeeeedy little coward...:D [20:39] trolling [20:39] (technical) [20:39] meandering [20:39] Quiznos: http://www.quibblo.com/not_found?error_message=Quiz+not+found. [20:40] chking [20:40] Quiznos: i'm all for that :D [20:40] ncgty (n=gui@201.86.171.62.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:41] http://www.quibblo.com/quiz/2ktLx/who-r-u-bugs-bunny-or-daffy-duck-or-tweety-bird-or-sylvester [20:41] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [20:41] that's the right fqdn [20:41] 404 [20:41] oops; found err [20:41] fire|bird: after you can iron out what exaile's needs,you might like to try pragha(fork of consonance)...http://pragha.wikispaces.com/...uses some of the deps that exaile uses [20:41] http://www.quibblo.com/quiz/2ktLx-u/who-r-u-bugs-bunny-or-daffy-duck-or-tweety-bird-or-sylvester [20:41] missd the -u [20:41] sorry [20:42] So the last hour at work was pretty interesting today. Our new phone system's voice mail took a dump on us. while we were handling that, a chlorine leak happened and went through our side of the building... [20:42] s/http://pragha.wikispaces.com/..uses / http://pragha.wikispaces.com/ [20:42] good timing [20:42] Chlorine leak? That sounds really bad... it wasn't some oxide variant, was it? [20:42] try semaphore sigs [20:43] MLanden_lap: cool, thanks. [20:43] we started smelling something funny when the boss down stairs calls me, "Get the hell out of the building now, there's a chlorine gas leek"... Hehe, i didn't leave for an hour cuz i was trying to get the VM working so we could forward our phones to an answering server. :P [20:43] lol [20:43] velusip: i dunno, just smelled like a lot of pool. [20:43] hahaha, holy smokes [20:44] where would chlorine leak from? o_o [20:44] isnt that a coolant? [20:44] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.27.127) left irc: "Leaving" [20:44] Like if you take a olympic pool and could put the smell of it in a drinking glass... that's how bad it was. [20:44] MLanden_lap: ah ha, exaile works now. Thanks again. :) [20:44] i was walking around with a mask on though. [20:44] Quiznos: i have no idea. [20:44] still felt weird at times though.. really numb. [20:44] i think it is [20:44] fire|bird: it's not segfaultin' ,is it? [20:44] Like a bitchin' russian rubber helmet? [20:45] MLanden_lap: nope [20:45] agentc0re: Well, if you start acting weird the next few days, we'll know why. :P [20:45] velusip: no one of those ER masks.. :P [20:45] fire|bird: you'll be able to tell? [20:45] Oh, wait, that'd require you being normal to begin with. :P [20:46] agentc0re: eh, might be able to tell, yeah. :P [20:47] fire|bird: here's how you could tell... If i start acting like jeev, call 911. :P [20:47] hahahaha [20:47] CK_MonkeyLord (n=afasdfs@116.44.192.14) left irc: "Http://www.ZeroIRC.NET ΆΖ Zero IRC ΆΖ Ver 2.9G" [20:48] agentc0re: That'd be a serious matter, better get them on standby. [20:48] "State of Play" is absolutely worth watching [20:48] eldragon (n=||||||||@84.79.67.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:48] what is it about? [20:48] have a helipad outside your house agentc0re? We could get a helicopter stationed there. :P [20:49] first new Leno show tonite [20:49] Quiznos: yeah, that should be good to watch. [20:49] nods [20:49] let's strt cofe early to b awake [20:50] lol, I'm up until 02:30 - 03:00 anyway. :P [20:50] k [20:50] what can be done with filetype/CWS files? what are they? [20:51] Quiznos: from what source or program? [20:52] web [20:52] ok, this is odd.. trying to ./configure the go-oo (OOo fork/branch) source bombs out on "pam-devel" [20:52] got headers? [20:52] latest autotools? [20:52] do, autoreconf [20:52] now, if i pass --disable-pam (just a guess), it "sucseedes", in the configure sequence, but says "unknown option --pam-devel" [20:52] do, autoreconf [20:52] Quiznos: uhm.. slackware is PAM'less [20:53] yea [20:53] thank god [20:53] heh [20:53] so, either i gotta patch shit, or i gotta fudge shit [20:53] edit configure.ac [20:53] that doesn't sound right. [20:53] to make pamless [20:53] or change default in that file [20:53] agentc0re: that's what she said. :P [20:53] then autoreconf [20:53] [in bed] [20:54] stop talking out of your behind Quiznos [20:54] go-oo can be a PITA to get making after configure [20:54] i'm not [20:54] Obey your inner Quiznos :)~ [20:54] macavity: It's the only way he knows. :P [20:54] fire|bird: ive noticed... [20:54] pff quiet bird! [20:54] scoff if you must; try it anyway [20:54] MLanden_lap: any hints? [20:54] MLanden_lap for the win!!! [20:54] Action: Quiznos pants [20:55] Quiznos: i find it rather plausible that they dont support --disable-pam for a *reason* [20:55] duno [20:55] try it [20:55] like.. there are no ifdefs in the code to work around it [20:55] must be --without in the configuer [20:55] or edit config.h [20:55] but tat's a more serious mung [20:56] --without-pam makes it bomb out as if there was no option given [20:56] edit configure.ac; autoreconf [20:56] or just autoreconf [20:56] --disable-pam makes configure succede, but give a warning.. this is odd [20:56] what warn? [20:57] after configure ends with the usual "this is what you picked" it says "unknown option --disable-pam" [20:57] He said what it gave above. READ man, READ. :P [20:58] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) joined ##slackware. [20:58] Action: fire|bird downloads go-oo source to mess with. [20:58] does --without-pam work? [20:58] NO I JUST SAID SO [20:58] Quiznos: pay attention (2009-09-14 19:56:16) macavity: --without-pam makes it bomb out as if there was no option given [20:58] ok [20:58] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [20:58] ncgty (n=gui@201.86.171.62.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:58] ok ok ok ok ok ok ok [20:58] i have a better idea [20:58] autoreconf [20:58] ** now ignoring Quiznos [20:58] did you md5sum your source? [20:58] cowrds [20:58] his loss [20:59] mrselfpwn: naturally [20:59] ncgty (n=gui@201.86.171.62.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:59] configure.in seems intent on flatout erroring out if pam_appl.h is not pressent [20:59] i told him to edit [20:59] how many times? [21:00] Quiznos: enough times that he put you on ignore? :D [21:01] sorry,macavity..the reference was with 12.2 with an older source [21:02] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:02] still his loss. [21:02] MLanden_lap: do you even have the *faintest* idea what you did to short out PAM in a non-hackish way? [21:03] amzing that he cant even consider fixing configure.ac and doing autoreconf. [21:03] https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/compiling-openoffice-without-pam-340700/ but it wasn't pretty [21:03] what pride [21:03] MLanden_lap: simply getting configure to not check for it is obviously not going go fix anything.. as there are several places in the source where it just hard #include's PAM headers without ifdefs [21:04] nositelicense (n=nositeli@67.49.45.203) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:05] MLanden_lap: right.. that is not pretty.. this will require more carefull investigation, and probably working a bit with upstream [21:06] echtts (n=echtts@201-27-186-50.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:06] echtts (n=echtts@201-27-186-50.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [21:06] good luck,macavity [21:07] echtts (n=echtts@201-27-186-50.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:07] slackware doesn't use pulseaudio right ? [21:07] test34, nope [21:07] ok thanks witukind [21:08] i run a pre-compiled binary of OpenOffice, i just downloaded from openoffice.org and ran rpm2tgz on it and installed, it all goes in to /opt, just make symlnks to program/soffice & swriter and the others in your path so you can run the program [21:09] westol (n=bnguyen@113.22.109.192) left irc: "leaving" [21:09] SBo has an OO.o script [21:09] yeah. [21:09] that will work too [21:10] slackbuild's OO.o script builds from the RPMs, right? [21:10] blackorca: yes [21:10] thumbs, doesn't openoffice supply it any other form? [21:11] not that it won't work, but why RPM? [21:11] blackorca: odd choice. Ask them [21:11] deb and rpm [21:11] aic (n=anrxc@190.87.173.68) joined ##slackware. [21:12] and you can try to build it from sources but good luck setting up that madness of a build environment [21:12] PaddyMac (i=1000@dialup-4.88.79.35.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [21:12] Good evening. [21:12] so the slackbuild doesn't actually build from source? [21:12] aic (n=anrxc@190.87.173.68) left irc: Client Quit [21:13] no [21:13] we just said it's a repackage [21:13] blackorca: you have to supply the source for the slackbuild [21:13] Reticenti: no you don't. [21:13] wait, what? [21:13] Speaking of Slackbuilds, is there one for KDE 4.3.1? [21:13] what else could you use? [21:13] slack's firefox isn't built from source either, right? [21:14] Reticenti: it is not a source build. [21:14] blackorca: right [21:14] blackorca: for 64bit it is [21:14] repackage also [21:14] antiwire: but you have to give it the source? [21:14] twolf, how do they still use the official firefox logo? [21:14] Reticenti: ..... [21:14] Reticenti: no. [21:14] Reticenti, from what I'm understanding you give it the openoffice RPM package [21:14] the SBo script uses a tarball of the prebuilt binaries [21:15] blackorca: not sure [21:15] twolf, I thought mozilla wasn't letting anyone use the official logos/artwork with unofficial builds? [21:15] antiwire: i've never used it like that, I've always given the slackbuild scripts the source [21:15] i give up. [21:15] macavity: Have you went through the distro-configs folder for go-oo and read in Slackware.conf, it automatically uses --disable-pam and --disable-pam-link. [21:15] blackorca: read the slackbuild it might tell you [21:15] Reticenti, the openoffice one is different apparently [21:16] Reticenti: If you used the SBo scripts for Openoffice you sure did not give it sources [21:16] habaneros (n=habanero@71.250.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:16] macavity: however, now I see what you mean at the end, :P configure: error: install pam-devel [21:16] fire|bird: does it do it easily without hack-and-slash? [21:16] fire|bird: exactly [21:16] antiwire: i havent built OO.org from source, but everything i've built using slackbuild scripts I've had to d/l the source and put it in the slackbuid dir [21:17] fire|bird: on the genpoo sites i see that some of them are having luck with compiling it with USE="-pam" [21:17] fire|bird: so i guess i will just have to take appart their .ebuild file and see how they do it [21:17] MLanden_lap: Well, how it's set up, it has various distro configs, it uses the one you specify using --with-distro=distro_here [21:17] Reticenti: you're missing the whole point here. The SBo build script for Openoffice is not a source build in the first place. [21:17] nositelicense (n=nositeli@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:17] macavity: ok, good luck with it. I'll keep messing with it here too. [21:17] Reticenti, http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.0/office/openoffice.org/README [21:17] The tarball in the .info is a tarball of the official binary build of OO.o [21:18] it is not a source tarball [21:18] antiwire: oh, i did not know that. I was talking about the other Sbo's i've used [21:18] Reticenti, "This script builds a Slackware package from the official binary (RPM's) [21:18] distributed by openoffice.org." [21:18] Better an SBo than an SOB. [21:19] It's not even using the RPM. it's just using the tarballed binaries [21:19] and this is not prestine OOo [21:19] it is go-oo [21:19] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) left irc: "Leaving." [21:21] Has anyone here installed KDE 4.3.1 on Slack 13? [21:21] macavity: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/oo.o-or-go-oo-700418/ <---post #9 is how someone installed it. :P [21:21] PaddyMac: If you want 4.3.1, build it yourself. [21:22] I downloaded teh source code already, I'm just wondering i anyone has successfully installed it, and if they got a slackbuild somewhere or how they did it. [21:22] Slackbuilds.org doesn't have a slackbuild yet. [21:22] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-233-133.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: "Leaving" [21:22] fire|bird: another repackage [21:22] PaddyMac: and they aren't going to, kde4 is part of slackware. [21:22] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-233-133.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [21:23] nositelicense (n=nositeli@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:23] ou can find Slackbuilds in the slackware source tree just modify it a bit and there you go [21:23] macavity: Well, go-oo does have an irc channel, maybe they could help? [21:23] good evening [21:23] evening slackmagic [21:23] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.3 (devel) Emacs IRC Client"). [21:24] OK.... [21:24] I need to find time and update to 13.0! argh! [21:24] isn't go-oo the outfit that is inserting broken msft concepts into ooo (as did novell)? [21:24] or was that some other fork or just an urban legend... [21:25] updating slack? impossible. [21:26] ok.. i can short circuit this.. but it *aint* pretty [21:26] my printer works awesome! [21:26] cool [21:26] slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade velusip [21:26] That was really simple :D [21:26] did it print glossy on matte paper?! [21:26] lol [21:26] i dunno [21:26] but the page is crooked [21:27] by like a couple mm's [21:27] normal printer thing. [21:27] Reticenti: uhm .. you forget a couple of commands :P [21:27] keep a lookout for microdots [21:27] LOL [21:27] BP{k}: like what? :3 [21:28] Reticenti: read the manpage and you'll see. :) [21:29] I'm honoured to have been added as a command line option to a slackware tool. [21:29] noisesinmyhead (n=gh@forkbomb.nl) joined ##slackware. [21:29] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) joined ##slackware. [21:29] first off, it should be upgrade-all and not just upgrade [21:29] lol [21:29] i have several grades of paper, some really thin cheap matte that does not always get run through perfectly straight, and some better quality matte that is thicker and it prints great, glossy paper is ok as long as it is thick, any cheap thin paper wont always run through good [21:29] second, install-new is important, as is clean-system [21:29] actually "slackpkg update && slackpg install-new && slackpkg upgrade-all && slackpkg clean-system [21:29] If it doesn't print on glass, what's the point? [21:30] acid etch [21:30] I print all my notes on glass. [21:30] or sand blast glass [21:30] macavity: hopefully, it can "compile" easier for you [21:31] sylpheed is the normal mail app [21:31] bahh [21:32] Andarius, was there something better? [21:33] honestly, I've been through many for work-use and Sylpheed is where I stopped. [21:33] Is sylpheed still worked on, I though claws had pretty much taken over. [21:33] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) left irc: Client Quit [21:33] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-233-133.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [21:33] Action: andarius currently and for a long time has used claws-mail [21:33] Oh, I thought they were the same. [21:34] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-233-133.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [21:34] they are seperate and both maintained last i looked. been a while though [21:34] no [21:34] I just like how they don't freak out and crash when the remote file share goes down... that's pretty much the only feature I was looking for. haha [21:34] andarius: Oh yeah, last update was August 13, 2009 [21:35] fire|bird: to which one ? [21:36] ahh, sylpheed [21:36] andarius: yeah, sylpheed. Sorry, I should have specified. :P [21:37] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:37] ok, here is how to do it: [21:37] enable_pam=no ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-distro=Slackware [21:38] macavity: awesome [21:38] they just broke the parsing code for the --without-pam internally [21:38] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [21:39] andarius: SBo only has 2.6.0, the latest is 2.7.1. [21:39] Maybe there's a reason for that, I don't know. [21:39] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [21:39] i belive --disable-kde is nessecary [21:39] as it destinguishes between kde and kde4 [21:39] fire|bird: so update and submit or poke the maintainer ;) [21:40] seems a lot of maintainers are falling behind. real lives must be hindering them [21:40] andarius: haha, well I'm going to build it here and see if there's any issues. :P [21:40] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:40] eh, real lives are overrated. :P [21:41] think that all you want while i rub on real, live female boobs and you rub your monitor ;) [21:42] fire|bird: isnt that something you do in WoW? [21:42] andarius: hahahahaha [21:42] agentc0re: I've never played WoW. [21:42] it is 03:48 and i started the go-oo build [21:42] ofcourse not, you are here on irc. if you played WoW you wouldnt have time nor a desire [21:42] now lets see if i manage to produce a binary before the next release :P [21:43] macavity: 3.1.1,right? [21:43] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [21:43] anyone have any other good suggestions for songs by Saliva? I got Walk Alone, Click Click Pull, and Ladies and Gentleman [21:43] Click Click Boom [21:43] MLanden_lap: 3.1.1.1 actually [21:44] Dominian: Broken Sunday and One More Chance are good, imo. [21:44] searching [21:44] MLanden_lap: enable_pam=no ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-distro=Slackware --disable-gtk --disable-kde --with-max-jobs=3 [21:44] fire|bird: yeah blick click boom.. that's what I meant [21:45] MLanden_lap: aka KDE4-only support [21:45] smoke a bowl? is that a saliva song? [21:45] Pig_Pen: not that I've ever heard. [21:45] who does that, i just heard it the other day [21:45] Action: quasar dances. [21:45] What use is TWM? [21:45] macavity: ok [21:46] emergency wm [21:46] to be in touch with your origins [21:46] blackorca: some people get the "titanic" effect from watching it or something.. [21:46] Pig_Pen: Weird Al for one. :P [21:46] macavity, "titanic" effect? [21:46] blackorca: they feel all soft and sob at the end or something [21:46] Quiznos, in case of which emergency? [21:47] shed a little tear at the sad romantic ending [21:47] macavity, I don't know what you're talking about haha [21:47] you get lost in the desert with a 386SX? [21:47] blackorca: you ever saw the movie Titanic? [21:47] macavity, yeah, but I don't see how it relates to the TWM window manager lol [21:47] sebadoh? [21:48] pdf file, atm machine [21:48] blackorca: did your GF cry at the end? [21:48] Anyway X is so fucking bloated it wouldn't run on a machine with 16 megs of RAM, but I remember a time when it did [21:48] actually.. i cried at the end :P [21:48] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [21:48] if you ever miss that feeling, just start TWM [21:48] witukind: you should refrain from swearing here. [21:48] i cried at the $9.50 i wasted on that crap [21:48] thumbs, k [21:49] ah :P [21:49] "it could have been so beutifull.. but TWM sacrificed it's life so KDE can live on sob-sob-sob-booohoooo" [21:49] lol [21:49] witukind: xf86,right? not x.org? [21:49] LONG LIVE KDE \o/ [21:49] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: Client Quit [21:49] fire|bird has got it right :P [21:49] MLanden_lap, same difference [21:49] swearing should be allowed so long as it's not excessive [21:49] ncgty_ (n=gui@189.27.39.139) joined ##slackware. [21:50] but I don't make the rules, I just break them :P [21:50] X.org is a fork of XFree86 [21:50] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [21:50] witukind: ok [21:51] Hard as it is to believe, even XFree86 sucked compared to Windows 95 though [21:51] chess_ (n=chess@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: "Darkness shrugs and bids the day goodbye" [21:51] ncgty (n=gui@201.86.171.62.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [21:51] Nick change: ncgty_ -> ncgty [21:52] Hilox (n=Hilox@adsl-152-222-246.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] witukind: it still does.. [21:52] Windows 95 could use 16bit colors on that laptop which made it possible to use to browse the web, I'm still waiting on X to support that, but I guess wobbly windows are more important [21:52] witukind: what grapchics chip? [21:53] Hi, does anyone know to search the "help" description part of the kernel? "/" only searches the key-value pairs apparently. [21:53] it is a Chips & Technology something I don't remember [21:53] witukind: then don't ever count on support.. unless you write it yourself [21:53] usr_local (n=usr_loca@c-76-97-113-50.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] witukind: does it even support 16 colors'? ;) [21:54] it does under Windows 95 [21:54] I still got the thing dual booting W95 and Slackware [21:54] in all fairness, compiz and friends are not part of xorg. complaining about lack of support for some obscure video adapter is silly [21:55] witukind: they sold very very few chips, the technical docs are not available, the chip itself is not VESA compliant, etc etc [21:55] I had to install IceWM and modify all the xpm icons so they would use the same palette so it would be bearable, Windows 95 on the other hand works even with 16 colours [21:55] does anyone know if there's a document from pat explaining why he doesn't use PAM? (just out of curiosity) [21:55] new Leno in 5m on NBC [21:55] witukind: question is, did windows95 come with drivers for that card? [21:55] macavity, S3 Trio/Virge is not Vesa 2.0 compliant either [21:56] i am going to watch a show on the History channel about Greek Mythology [21:56] neat [21:56] ananke, I think so I don't remember having had to install any drivers for this card, it just worked out of the box [21:56] witukind: that's very surprising [21:56] had a NEC laptop that's video chip was a CT..so you're right,Macavity...very limited support [21:57] witukind: no, but they sold a lot of chips.. so someone who was using XFree86 and could code had one [21:58] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) joined ##slackware. [21:58] fire|bird: know any good SevenDust? [21:58] anyway I guess this laptop could still be used in text mode, though Linux now uses about 10 megs of ram without X [21:58] ah fsck.. go-oo bombs out on some missing perl module [21:58] Archive/Zip.pm [21:58] witukind: time to throw NetBSD on it [21:59] macavity, that's an idea [21:59] Does anyone know how to search the "description" part of the Linux kernel? "/" merely searches the symbols. [21:59] witukind: what's the memory on it? [21:59] 16 Mb of RAM, which is surprising for a 486 laptop [22:00] yearh.. mine only had 4 [22:00] here's an idea: use it as a door stop [22:00] I think that 486 is a DX100 which is apparently faster than the early pentiums [22:00] echtts (n=echtts@201-27-186-50.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "leaving" [22:00] ananke: why waste a perfectly good 42 bogomips machine?!? [22:00] Is that the max,witukind? [22:00] MLanden, I think so [22:01] macavity: 42? that's on a good day, downhill [22:01] usr_loca1 (n=usr_loca@c-76-97-113-50.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [22:01] Heh I guess maybe mpg123 would work on it [22:01] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Connection timed out [22:01] actually i belive the i486 took a NOP for every other clock cycle [22:01] Dominian: Ummm, The Past, Inside, Sorrow, Prodigal Son [22:02] which would mean 50 bogomips in the above case [22:02] ahh some of their older stuff [22:02] macavity, don't know about that, but it was fast enough [22:02] compare to the 8645 bogomips of this machine :P [22:02] fire|bird: I'm looking for some hardcore music unfortunately hehe [22:02] fire|bird: just in one of those moods [22:03] I like some of the downloads from tranceaddict.com [22:03] Dominian: haha, yeah. Like Killswitch Engage? :P [22:03] Not really hardcore, but pretty good stuff. [22:03] fire|bird: hehe [22:03] It's free.... [22:03] PaddyMac: I'm just in a hard-hitting rock out mood for some reason [22:03] does anyone know if there is a patch fix that stops linux from being infinitely capable of tweaks? I need time to do homework too? :3 [22:04] Yeah.. Install Windows. [22:04] haha [22:04] that'll pretty much stop it [22:04] ok; leno's funi in the first 4m [22:04] witukind: which version netbsd? i tried 5.0 and 4.0 on my NEC,but they needed 32meg on install [22:04] habaneros (n=habanero@71.250.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [22:04] Dominian: what about Hail the Villain? :D [22:04] probably not classified as hardcore though, but really good music [22:04] MLanden_lap, I don't know I never used NetBSD... [22:04] bah [22:04] fire|bird: if its not even borderline bang your head till you get a headache.. don't want it [22:05] Ah, ok, you are looking for REALLY hardcore stuff. :P [22:05] yah [22:05] Where can I find instructions on compiling KDE on Slackware? I think I'm figuring it out gradually, but a little guidance would be appreciated. [22:05] hence saliva... sevendust.. [22:05] PaddyMac: The source on any mirror will provide the build scripts [22:05] Dominian: the chariot? [22:05] It seems to be compiling kdelibs okay right now.... [22:05] Hmm, let me think about that for a bit. [22:05] go old school......Dio [22:05] Dio hehe [22:05] I'm listening to some Priestess right now [22:05] Dominian: Sonata Arctica ! :D [22:06] carboncopy (i=carbonco@monkey.my) joined ##slackware. [22:06] Do all the files need to be in teh same directories an on the ftp mirror? [22:06] I'm listening to Tom Angelripper [22:06] real men listen to manowar [22:06] ngworeka1a (n=ngworeka@cpe-70-112-177-214.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:06] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [22:06] wschaub (n=wschaub@cpe-67-242-103-31.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:06] MLanden_lap, maybe minix? [22:07] ohhhh [22:07] i.e. does the working directory you're building in need to be exactly like ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/source/kde/ ? [22:07] witukind: here's a ref to web site I was using during the summer with my NEC (before it died) http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/01/25/case-in-point-a-crux-ports-server-at-100mhz-16mb/ [22:07] fire|bird: Sevendust - Face to Face [22:07] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) left irc: "Leaving." [22:07] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:07] Tell360 (n=zmh@119.101.233.231) joined ##slackware. [22:08] could do some slipknot and some mudvayne [22:08] there ya go. :P [22:08] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:08] Stone Sour (Cory Taylor's other band) [22:08] witukind: floppy still work? [22:09] ok leno was funi on the monologue [22:09] MLanden_lap: no idea, doesn't matter, I've got a PCMCIA network card, I can install from the network [22:10] ngworekara (n=ngworeka@70.112.177.214) joined ##slackware. [22:10] fire|bird: haha.. alien ant farm - smooth criminal [22:10] hahahahaha [22:10] witukind: what size is the hard drive? [22:10] fire|bird: I forgot I had that on here [22:10] MLanden_lap, I think 500 megs [22:10] Dominian: That's not really hardcore, but...... :P [22:10] I've got it dual boat [22:10] *boot [22:11] fire|bird: still a good re'make of it [22:11] yeah, definitely. [22:11] Dominian: like Seether? [22:12] I forgot I could probably kill udev and hal, and then maybe Slackware would use less than 10 megs of ram [22:12] fire|bird: forgot about Distrubted too [22:12] fire|bird: yeah Seether is ok [22:12] Disturbed is great. [22:12] good night gang [22:12] night macavity [22:12] WAKE UP! [22:12] ill fix this go-oo thingie tomorrow [22:12] Grab a brush and put on a little makeup! [22:13] nite macavity [22:13] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "..perl modules? we dont need no stinking perl modules!" [22:13] Dominian: this isn't hardcore, classified as christian rock, but the band "Red" has great music. [22:14] Five Finger Death Punch [22:15] how about some operation ivy? [22:15] witukind: tried blueflops on my NEC since it had the 2.6 kernel on it http://blueflops.sourceforge.net/ [22:16] there used to be a replacement vesa video driver for 2.4 kernels, is there one for 2.6? [22:16] can (n=can@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [22:16] Quiznos: you mean tinyx? [22:16] Just did my first 13.0 install. It's really nice. [22:16] no; kmod [22:16] well, kernel src replacement [22:17] can yay [22:17] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:17] Seems that audio is working... but not with gxine. Do I need to run alsaconfig? [22:17] Or is that a thing of the past. [22:17] yea [22:17] Quiznos: I do? [22:17] MLanden_lap, never heard of it [22:17] alsamixer [22:17] I'm still running 10.2 with a bunch of updates from 11.0. (File/VMWare server that I can't be bothered to mess with now its running just fine and I use the vmwares a lot) [22:18] I do plan to install 13 in a VM to see whats new though. [22:18] hrm.. [22:18] witukind: just was going through a list of distros..and wanted the 2.6 kernel and that one was on it [22:18] fire|bird: I think this Slipknot song is in Guitar Hero III [22:18] in fact.. I know it is [22:18] heheh I recognize it [22:18] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [22:18] MLanden_lap, busybox sucks though, I'd feel I'd be using some DSL modem's shell through telnet ^^ [22:18] can: wait, it works, but just not in gxine? that's weird. [22:19] Dominian: Which song is that? I have Guitar Hero World Tour. :P [22:19] witukind: true [22:19] Yea, xine is silent [22:19] but bash probably works with uClibc [22:19] I think I'll install mplayer. [22:20] fire|bird: Before I Forget [22:20] can: gxine or xine? where is it working? [22:20] Dominian: Ah, cool. [22:20] fire|bird: the guitar hero games have some GOOD songs on them [22:21] yeah a bunch of good songs. [22:22] fire|bird: that's how I was reminded of priestess hehe [22:22] and I used to HATE Weezier until I played Guitar Hero [22:22] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [22:22] MLanden_lap, text mode would be more bearable if there was a framebuffer console for that video card... 800x600 would be nice [22:22] can: you really can't go wrong with mplayer it may not be flashy but it's the only media player I know of that always just seems to work perfect no matter what I'm running it on. [22:23] fire|bird: ahhhhhhhh! [22:23] Solaris/SPARC with VIS extensions etc, Linux (even on the OLPC XO-1), etc. [22:23] fire|bird: I don't have any freakin' Godsmack on here! Time to fix that. [22:24] but I tend to love command line tools more than GUI stuff anyway. (yes I know mplayer has a gui but I never touch it) [22:24] Dominian: You better fix that FAST. [22:24] I AAM! [22:25] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [22:25] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-204-48.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [22:25] fire|bird: I never really pictured you the type of person to listen to hardcore music like that. [22:25] witukind: hear ya [22:26] agentc0re: I do though. :) [22:26] fire|bird: do you wear a trench coat and have lots of guns? [22:26] ;) [22:26] I must say, I'm really impressed. kde4 is very nice [22:26] hahahahah, no. I don't own either of those things. :P [22:26] and ext4 is faster [22:26] I think [22:26] ooo [22:26] I'm more of a They Might Be Giants fan myself. [22:27] didn't even know about ext4 [22:27] fire|bird: Another one I found from Guitar Hero III [22:27] fire|bird: Distrubed - STricken [22:27] Ah, that's a good one. [22:27] hm, how can I backup my DVDs (movies)? dd if=/dev/dvd of=whatever.iso doesn't seem to create the iso (well it does but it's only about 880kb in size). Is that due to copyright protection? [22:27] haha found their remake of "land of confusion" [22:27] I like Indestructable, Inside the Fire, Sons of Plunder, Pain Redefined. [22:28] slackmagic, it's a raw image, not a ISO [22:28] haha, and Land of Confusion, 10,000 Fists [22:28] fire|bird: Stupify! [22:28] another good one. lol, it's hard to remember all of them. :P [22:28] yep [22:29] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:29] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [22:30] fire|bird: hehe my wife will like seeing some Godsmack. [22:30] sunzofman1 (n=agreen@c-98-209-203-170.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:30] witukind: since 16mb is the max,you might try some of the old 2.4 kernel distros,,deli linux's not bad(with tinyx) [22:30] Dominian: Do I hear Dominian racking up some brownie points? :P [22:31] I think DamnSmallLinux still uses a 2.4.x kernel. [22:31] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:32] MLanden_lap, I've got slackware with Linux 2.4 on it right now [22:32] witukind: mind if I send you a PM? [22:32] witukind: oh...sorry,didn't know [22:33] slackmagic, go ahead [22:33] MLanden_lap, it's getting old though... [22:35] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:36] witukind: which slackware is installed? [22:36] MLanden_lap, hum I don't remember well, it's been a while since I used this laptop [22:36] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl6-223-128.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:37] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-165-182.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:37] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [22:37] MLanden_lap, but I can tell you it was a Slackware that could still be installed with diskettes [22:37] *floppies [22:38] witukind: gotcha [22:38] X starts but is mostly useless because 8bit colors sucks with X [22:38] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86.42.164.61) joined ##slackware. [22:38] had, IceWM and some Gtk+1 apps [22:39] doom worked too [22:39] X is mainly for having lots of terminals open in resizable windows anyway. at least for me. [22:40] with a small handful of GUI apps of course. [22:40] wschaub, well not for everyone, I don't mind console stuff, but *good* graphical interfaces are nice too [22:40] right. which is where the handful of GUI apps part comes in. [22:40] fire|bird: hehehe Godsmack - I F****** hate you good song [22:41] wschaub, I'm thinking of switching to Haiku one of these days [22:41] best concert I've been to was Godsmack :) [22:41] wschaub, clean GUI no bullshit [22:41] Dominian: hahahaha [22:41] I finally made the jump to 13.0 (on my desktop, anyway.) What's up with ~/screen-configurations.xml ? [22:42] witukind: i plan to try it out in an VM sometime soon. I've never used BeOS but I find stuff like that interesting. [22:42] witukind: who's the maker of that computer? [22:42] MLanden_lap, compaq [22:43] witukind: sound chip wss? [22:43] wschaub, I tested BeOS but it kind of sucked because the hardware I tried it on was too modern. [22:43] Personally I wish SGI had opened up the IRIX magic desktop. I really liked the SGI modified motif and the desktop environment. [22:43] wschaub, but it has some great ideas [22:44] s/IRIX/Indigo/ [22:44] never used that [22:44] I would think it would be some Motif thingy [22:44] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: "Leaving" [22:44] Think motif but pretty instead. [22:45] and an environment much like a Mac but nicer than the crappy MacOS 9 that was current back then. [22:45] it was pretty snappy and fast even on slow MIPS workstations like the Indy. [22:46] hum, never played with a Mac [22:47] Basically my experience: CP/M/DOS/GEM -> Windows 3.11 -> Windows 95 -> Linux [22:47] I got into collecting obsolete UNIX workstations with propritary UNIX on them when I was learning unix/linux stuff. was great seeing all the different systems out there and the ways they were similar and which did certain bits better. [22:47] can (n=can@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:47] witukind me too :) [22:47] my favorite to this day is Solaris on SPARC though. [22:47] 311 -> linux [22:47] only a few months on 31 [22:47] but when I install linux on my own machines I go for slack. [22:48] yep [22:48] at one point I wanted an Alpha [22:48] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [22:48] My main desktop is a Dual 1.2Ghz UltraSPARC III SunBlade 2000. [22:49] my slackware box is my NFS/Samba/VMWare server though. [22:49] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-170-230-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:49] plus an old laptop with Slack on it. [22:49] I have a few machines but only x86 [22:50] Yeah I know old and crusty but I like it that way. I have a ton of cheap PC hardware laying around that I do more demanding stuff on. [22:50] I still have my amstrad pc 1512, 8086 / 512k RAM ^^ [22:50] really like the athlon X2 with VT extenstions. [22:50] I nevr throw anything away if it still runs. [22:50] My main slackware desktop is an intel core duo 2.8 GHz Dell Optiplex gx620 [22:50] I wouldn't either [22:51] My color computer 2 still runs great. [22:51] enevn though ive transferred the disks to a PC and emulate the floppy with cloud 9's drivewire and a serial port. [22:51] I used the Amstrad with DOS connected with PLIP to a Linux box, so people could use it for IRC ^^ [22:52] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1213339/Astonishing-twisters-captured-storm-chasing-photographer-Jim-Reed.html [22:53] I was always wanting to get one of those ne1000 ethernet cards to plug in it, but wasn't sure it would be compatible with ne2000 [22:53] witukind: think with minix3 might be the same as what you've got installed already....with x still at 8bit [22:53] wschaub still using the Coco? neat [22:54] MLanden_lap, I've been thinking about Minix 3 for the 486 [22:54] Quiznos: not for any ral work but its still fun to play with. [22:54] nods sure! [22:54] there is actually a somewhat unix-like multitasking realtime OS for it [22:54] i has a private lust for the 6809 [22:54] microware's OS-9 [22:54] omg do you have that? [22:55] I have a coco3 with a 512k upgrade board. [22:55] witukind: be sorta like twm,which isn't bad on the older computers [22:55] sweet [22:55] on a 8086 you can also run ELKS, but it crashes all the time [22:55] its free [22:55] Nitros9 [22:55] yea i know elks [22:55] is the free implementation of OS-9 [22:55] ok [22:55] I haven't done much with it but theres a lot of software avialbale for it. [22:55] including a C compiler. [22:55] kool [22:55] i've always want the os [22:56] wanted [22:56] you have ot make your code fit in 64kb address space. [22:56] i'll use an emu [22:56] (or less if you have less than a coco3 and are running level 1) [22:56] MLanden_lap, honestly it would be cool if M$ would give out the code for Windows 95 so it could be patched for security holes, cause that's the OS with the most possibilities for this 486 [22:56] but with more than 64kb of ram and OS9 level 2 you can have the different processes in theri own 64kb slots isolated from each other. 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[23:03] mkeil (i=marcel@82.96.72.54) returned to ##slackware. [23:03] you mean the help info? [23:03] in menuconfig? [23:03] Quiznos, Yes. [23:03] the helps is in Kconfig files i think [23:03] PaddyMac (i=1000@dialup-4.88.79.35.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:03] but some is in other dirs [23:03] Quiznos, If I search for a module or kernel driver, the / search only returns the symbols. [23:03] what are you looking for? [23:03] Quiznos, Where is kconfig? [23:04] Quiznos, A bunch of drivers and modules lspci returns. I'm custom building the kernel. [23:04] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) returned to ##slackware. [23:04] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-204-48.dsl.telepac.pt) returned to ##slackware. [23:04] arch/[your arch] [23:04] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: "Leaving" [23:04] Nick change: ang_ -> ang [23:05] yea, i think a better auto-config for kernel is needed [23:05] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "test34" [23:05] fire|bird: found some Henry Phillips [23:05] Tell360 (n=zmh@119.101.233.231) left ##slackware. [23:05] can (n=can@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [23:05] Hilox drivers for what? [23:06] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [23:06] I see the usb "notifier" down there, but no option to unmount. Where is the option to umount? [23:06] hey Dominian, Quiznos [23:06] hihi [23:06] Quiznos, Everything, PCI bridges, USB bridges, sound card, graphic card, other controllers, PCMCIA, etc... [23:06] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [23:07] rufoz (n=chemical@189.4.70.49) got lost in the net-split. [23:07] felipe (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) got lost in the net-split. [23:07] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) got lost in the net-split. [23:07] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) got lost in the net-split. [23:07] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) got lost in the net-split. [23:07] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) got lost in the net-split. [23:07] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) got lost in the net-split. [23:07] Hilox you could start with `make allyesmod' and trim down config from that [23:07] see `make help' [23:08] In case anyone is interested (probably not) I'm working on a distributed BBS over ad-hoc wireless networks (and swapped USB keys) basically a discussion board what operates outside the internet without a reliance on any infrastructure other than a constantly changing collection of cheap laptops and PCs. [23:08] http://teotwawki.steubentech.com [23:08] wschaub, that sounds like a very nice project [23:08] oh that's neat; over tcp? [23:08] it uses IPv4 and avahi-autoipd. [23:08] kool [23:09] and its implemented using perl scripts and INN (usenet server) [23:09] uucp here we return!!! [23:09] I guess it only mounts when needed... it's NOT mounted. [23:09] something has to replace the internet once the powers that be have it locked up [23:09] fatalnix (n=bhodgins@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [23:09] chanserv just got owned! [23:09] lol [23:09] the usb key transfer method uses the same batch files uucp spools would use. [23:09] who? [23:09] witukind yea [23:09] chanserv netsplittimicated [23:10] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [23:10] but i dont have a laptop and i'm not on a wireless network :/ [23:10] witukind: its very similar in concept to this project: http://information-without-borders.org/IWB_RFC-1#Gossip [23:10] Ok, I found it. [23:11] wschaub, I'm bookmarking everything [23:11] and http://information-without-borders.org/How_it_works [23:11] except I'm not building it from scratch. [23:11] just modifying how usenet works with shell and perl scripts. [23:11] tehres quite a bit about it on my blog as well. [23:11] http://steubentech.com/~talon/blog [23:11] /quit [23:11] if you scroll down you will find some xfig figures. [23:11] bookmarking [23:12] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:12] bai [23:12] Gratz474 (n=sdfsdfsd@unaffiliated/gratz474) joined ##slackware. [23:12] slackware still going strong? [23:12] yes [23:12] witukind: called anonet [23:12] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-141-152-179-4.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:12] I'm working on the usb key swap bits right now. [23:12] MLanden_lap1 (n=lilslack@pool-141-152-179-4.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] I still remember Fidonet and BBSs [23:13] Nick change: MLanden_lap1 -> MLanden_lap [23:13] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:14] its not just for political stuff though, katrina style disasters, or my secret hope. brining back the local BBS scene where you are in touch with whats going on in your local area and not in people spread out over the whole known world. [23:14] it was not that hard to use [23:14] yes, that's a good thing [23:14] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:14] true,wshaub [23:15] the internet is not anymore a place where people meet, it's a place where people stay away from each other [23:15] yep. [23:15] and I'm sick of it. [23:15] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [23:15] also the current system is so heavily dependded on that people are hopeless when the plug is pulled. [23:15] also [23:16] why nto use off the shelf software/hardware to make an alternate way to commuinicate. [23:16] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:16] there is no centralized administration or centrlaized server with this setup. [23:16] Refused telnet@proxyscan.freenode.net (invalid handle: CONNECT 2) [23:16] anyway the internet was doomed when there was no hope anymore for "normal people" to be able to run servers decently. [23:16] everyone is a client and a server. [23:17] and each part can operate totally isolated form everything else. [23:17] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:17] my goal is ot have each node contain the full distribution for every platform. [23:17] so that it can be easily added to new machines to spread. [23:17] witukind: can you expand on that? quite a few people who I would consider normal do exactly that [23:17] without needing to get it off the net. [23:17] I want to make it work on smartphones and PDAs though. [23:18] small devices in peoples pockets would be ideal. [23:18] SiegeX, it costs money to run a decent server, and you can't do that from home. Even a lowly pentium is good enough to be a web server, but you can't get a decent link to the internet and it will stay like this [23:18] that's why ADSL was chosen over normal DSL etc... [23:19] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) joined ##slackware. [23:19] I pay about $99 a month to host my webserver (old Netra T1) btu i also get full console access and the ability to do my own OS installs. [23:19] 99$ is a lot [23:19] and you don't have full control [23:19] umm I do have full control. [23:20] I installed solaris on this machine myself entirely remotely. [23:20] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: "Leaving" [23:20] wschaub, sure, but the biggest security risk is not the network but people who have direct access to a machine [23:20] well true. you have to trust the guy you are co-locating with. [23:20] Well I dont quite agree with that. I run my server just fine off my comcast residential 16/1.5 connection. The only real problem I have is sending out email but I can use SMARTHOST to forward it through my ISP first. [23:20] I wish I could run it all at home. [23:21] but ISPs make that impossible. [23:21] still it is nice to have an offsite place to put stuff. [23:21] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:21] in case of fire. [23:21] SiegeX, you're lucky, I hear swedes are lucky too, and have T1 lines [23:21] but if I were to run a commercial site/business, then ofc i would have to upgrade to a static ip and also look at doing some failover. [23:22] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [23:22] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-141-152-179-4.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:22] well, its not like comcast is some podunk ISP. Anybody with the knowhow or the drive to understand can do what I'm doing. [23:22] this guy is a bit pricey but he was the only one that would give me my own sparc machine and let me run the OS I wanted with full console access etc. I would upgrade the machine but I don't do a lot with it quite yet. [23:22] i would imagine the same would be true for AT&T DSL but the speeds much lower, downstream at least. [23:23] wschaub whois isp? [23:23] zill.net [23:23] k [23:23] that's the reason why I see wild WiFi networks as the future [23:23] everyone has the same bandwidth [23:24] yea but AP's still have to allocate bandwidth based on howmany are using [23:24] I'm thinking about mesh [23:24] unless you aren't using an AP. (I'm using IBSS ad-hoc mode) [23:24] MLanden_lap (n=lilslack@pool-141-152-179-4.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:24] cross hatched ap networking? [23:24] I'm not doing any fancy mesh routing though. [23:25] so, the neighborhood people all get AP's and share across? [23:25] mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:25] because of the way machines constantly move traffic to all other machines they can see it is a sort of primitive routing. [23:25] store and forward. [23:25] Cann0n (i=1337@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [23:25] it will be mesh when wifi is free and the cost to play is to be a node to make the network more robust [23:25] well that's not isp-ish [23:25] I am looking into a cool MIT project called Cerebro though. [23:25] y0 Cann0n [23:25] hey [23:25] which is more mesh stuff and more interactive. [23:25] otherwise when people pay for bandwidth, they aren't going to want to let anybody use it, at least not many [23:26] I'm thinking a cmbo of both store and forward and interactive stuff would be cool to implement. [23:26] Cann0n: How's it going? [23:26] k [23:26] for extreemely locally focused networks. [23:26] on stuff like netbooks and smartphones and PDAs [23:26] just using hte local unlicensed spectrum. [23:26] yea but what kind of neighborhood needs that? [23:26] cant implement tat everywhere [23:27] fire|bird: nothing much. just got do collecting eggs, cleaning some conchs and a blue fish, bout to relax for a few hours before I sleep. [23:27] fire|bird: you? [23:27] like tween the Rocky's and Appalachia [23:27] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [23:27] it's too big there [23:27] Cann0n: not much, just building some various stuff. :P [23:27] Quiznos: its not about constant access to all nodes inthe network. [23:27] k; what then? [23:27] people walking around eventually come into contatc of other people running the system. [23:27] and accumulated info spreads. [23:28] so it's an urban area thing? [23:28] see http://information-without-borders.org/How_it_works [23:28] its very similar to that. [23:28] oh; that's where the `store & forw' comes in? [23:28] I'm also going ot implement USB key transfers and modem links for long hault by courrrier or phones. [23:28] store on someone's fs till it can be passed to another machine? [23:28] w.e. that machine is? [23:28] its basically usenet used with a small twist. [23:28] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:28] ok [23:29] dynamic and async [23:29] with an ever changing network of ad-hoc wireless nodes or alternate comms. [23:29] yeah. [23:29] ok neat [23:29] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:29] like Tor without encryption; thatll sux :( [23:29] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427638.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:29] the whole idea if to throw out assumtpions about the internet and think " if it all vanished tomorrow and I had some archived free software how would I do mass comms" [23:30] ok [23:30] Since I used old school BBS systems that worked a lot like this this seemed the obvious way to go. [23:30] but with modern tech. [23:30] its a method that worked well before most people had the net. [23:30] wschaub, especially these days storage is cheap [23:30] ok i cn see it [23:31] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.163.142) joined ##slackware. [23:31] so info is passed around; how is info designated for passing? [23:31] is it etc/services type stuff? [23:31] same way as usenet oes it now. [23:31] email? [23:31] ok [23:31] ida spooled up usenet articles on disks or NNTP. [23:31] married to my network mapper and sync dispatcher [23:31] and news sync perl scripts [23:32] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:32] so portable and moving devices implement the servers? [23:32] a broadcsster broadcasts udp packets to the network and the mapper collects them and builds a map in memory. [23:32] then based on timestamps inthat hash news articles are pushed around. [23:32] and hte usenet server handles duplicate articles and such. [23:32] k [23:33] and hte timestamp is updated on a successful sync. [23:33] and from then on only articles that arrived since that timestamp are sent if any exist. [23:33] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:33] the next time it dispatches the news sync script. [23:33] on a network where the machines have been around around eventually only the broadcast packets are sent. [23:34] until a new article is posted on one of the nodes [23:34] thenthat node sends it ot every node it currently sees in it's map. [23:34] k [23:34] and so on for every node on the network. [23:34] I have a LiveCD with the software. [23:34] on the teotwawki.steubentech.com site [23:34] you can see it in action. [23:34] vantech (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: "Leaving." [23:34] k [23:35] it sjust a slax cd with the software. [23:35] the instructions are in roots home dir. [23:35] you don't need wireless [23:35] How do I tell the clock to use network time server? (In KDE-3.5x you just right click on the time and...) [23:35] it will work on wired lans too. [23:35] k [23:35] Or does it already do it by default? [23:35] you start it up and browse to localhost where there is a web based news reader. [23:35] ntpd (if runnin) fixes kernel clock; kde would use kernel time [23:36] if you have it running on 2 machines. [23:36] you will see the articles sync between the machines. [23:36] k [23:36] new newsgroups are propagated automagically as well. [23:36] lagann_ (i=hex@71.233.171.54) joined ##slackware. [23:36] what about surfing? like Tor? [23:36] the current version has bugs that ive mostly fixed but I'm constantly hacking on it. [23:37] I haven't done any of that yet. [23:37] is it poss? [23:37] the assumtpion is no internet. [23:37] just a constantly spreading private network. [23:37] yea but there is a "web" of computers and that is the net [23:37] I want to implement PGP and such. [23:37] and people would put up their own archives [23:38] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:38] I'm open to ideas. [23:38] k [23:38] its still in the very early stages. [23:38] ive come a long way from the initial proof of concept though. [23:39] it all started out as an idea in an OLPC users group meeting at RIT> [23:39] the OLPC is a great platform to develop this sort of thing on. [23:39] ok, so the telco's are dead and taken the backbones with em? [23:39] heh [23:39] how does a packet from one city get to another? [23:40] oh, kill Level3 too. [23:40] basically I'm assuming nothing more than just what machines can see thats in range. or long haul links set up by courrier or any working infrastructure left. [23:40] think africa. [23:40] the only thing left is satellite connection [23:40] I was thinking 3rd world pesthole situations also when I was planning this thing. [23:40] but do cell fons transmit directly to sats? [23:40] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.3 (devel)"). [23:41] since you might have kids in villages away from the classroom server. [23:41] k [23:41] and they might want a discussion group thats distributed and de-crentralized. [23:41] bascially you're answering the situ where an EMP has happened? [23:41] for collaboration anyplace they are. [23:41] over the mesh. [23:41] on the OLPC [23:41] how does a packet from one city get to another? [23:41] well if EMP has happened its likely those netbooks wont run... [23:42] assume/hope they do [23:42] somehow [23:42] by human travel. [23:42] sneaker net [23:42] thatll suck [23:42] everyone gets a merge of everyone elses article spool. [23:42] but how from city to city? [23:42] so someone goes to the next village or city and once they meet up with someone else with a machines. [23:42] their spool gets merged with the machine in that other city. [23:42] and they get that citys data. [23:42] k [23:42] and it just keeps going. [23:43] it does suck. [23:43] i discern that something's missing but i'm not sure what [23:43] but its trying to basically work with not much of anything. [23:43] how close do devices need to be to each other to swap? [23:43] forward [23:44] see with an answer to that; a "tarball" could be sent while devs are passing on a highway [23:44] as close as necessary to see the other machines broadcast packets and do the TCP 3 way handshake over 802.11 ad-hoc (it uses an open ad-hoc network on a well known IBSS id and channel) [23:44] k [23:44] so yeah [23:44] passing on a highway is an example. [23:45] although a tarball is more the USB key example. [23:45] see now this becomes interesting [23:45] with NNTP its a lot faster. [23:45] a full load of info ready to swap [23:45] streaming NNTP mind you. [23:45] yep. [23:45] k [23:45] volumes and volumes of info on cheap storage. [23:45] being sprad like the common cold. [23:45] so, partitioned that way, nothing is lost even if abended due to lost channel [23:45] ok [23:45] disk space is the main limit. [23:46] I'm planning ot use the CNFS spool storage method. [23:46] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:46] (you allocate the amount of spcae you want ot use for your news spool and its gets stored in a big binary file) [23:46] that file implements a circular news filesystem. [23:46] k [23:46] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:46] the oldest article is overwritten when it runs out of space. [23:46] lilo? [23:46] and it continues on forever. [23:46] lots of redundancy. [23:47] its not a real FS. its an internatl storage method of INN. [23:47] internal i mean. [23:47] yea [23:47] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "dont watch crank, what a waste of time and mental power..." [23:47] on smaller devices like cellphones and PDAs I would need to write a small version of this system in java or something. [23:47] k [23:48] with a basic NNTP implementation and a history database and article store. and threads for the network stuff. [23:48] no reason you couldn't do it over other networks than TCP or 802.11 [23:48] bluetooth would be cool to implement. [23:48] you could always download the articles form your phone to a bigger machine later. [23:48] that's already part of cell devs [23:48] blue is [23:49] I have no idea if it will go anyplace but it is a fun project. [23:49] beats doing mundane database stuff anyway. [23:49] heh [23:49] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [23:49] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [23:50] nyRednek (n=yosi@66.168.46.171) joined ##slackware. [23:50] hi red [23:50] its more a collection of open source software plus come glue code than a traditional app. [23:50] if I'm using the default slack13 smp kernel, do you think I'd get much of a performance boost by rolling a custom kernel? [23:51] possib in terms of spae [23:51] space [23:51] less management for the kernel to do [23:51] sure; go ahead [23:51] and what do you suggest for third party security patches? [23:51] what kind of performance boost are you looking for? [23:52] duno [23:52] but if i tried to build it all from scratch I would be as far along as sneakernet (nothing working as far as I know) [23:52] security patches and performance are two different beasts [23:52] true [23:52] he wants it all :) [23:52] i want my cake and to eat it too :( [23:52] but the cake is a lie [23:52] :ohnoes: [23:53] Action: godling stabs you with a fork. [23:53] anyone good with pin outs ? [23:53] Action: Reticenti bleeds all over godling [23:53] whose pins? [23:53] raquel's? [23:53] the pins in his head? [23:53] ;P [23:53] lol [23:53] out with it, jeev [23:54] for a rj45 to rj9 [23:54] i guess i'll just try it [23:54] google knows that like the back of its bits [23:54] Linux-IRC (n=Linux-IR@113.11.36.147) joined ##slackware. [23:54] hello [23:54] hi [23:55] i dont even know how to crimp cat6 [23:55] buy a tool [23:55] is there anything in slackware like "sudo aptitude install " or sudo yum install package?? [23:55] slackpkg [23:55] sbopkg [23:55] i have the tool, fool [23:55] or ftp or http for manual [23:55] jeev: you crimp it with the crimping tool. there's really no other way. :) [23:55] kol [23:56] ah [23:56] i mean, the inside is different [23:56] you have to squeeze it [23:56] tuxloo (n=root@117.39.57.179) joined ##slackware. [23:56] that's how it works [23:56] :P [23:56] yelsn (n=none@cm103-236.madisontelco.com) left ##slackware. [23:56] it's like double layer [23:57] slapt-get [23:57] tuxloo (n=root@117.39.57.179) left ##slackware. [23:57] http://www.computercablestore.com/images/products/Sentinel%20Connector%20Systems%20Inc/1-645.jpg [23:58] jeev: those ones have a plastic bit that breaks and locks the connector onto the cable [23:58] SiegeX: Quiznos: Can you guys give me the complete command to install gcc,g++ from internet in Slackware? [23:58] slackpkg install gcc [23:59] slapt-get --install gcc [23:59] =) [23:59] i cant see it [23:59] shit man hwere are my cat5 jacks [23:59] SiegeX: Quiznos: What's the package manager in slackware ? as in other distro it's .deb or .rpm? [23:59] jeev: find a tutorial via Google. :) [23:59] wget URLtoslackwaremirror/slackversion/d/gccpackagename.tgz; installpkg packagename. [23:59] cant even find my crimping tool man [23:59] would you reccomend me using the newest stable kernel, or the kernel version I currently have, but recompiled? [00:00] --- Tue Sep 15 2009