[00:05] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.2, revision: 4740, sources date: 20100627, built on: 2010-08-08 18:29:00 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [00:12] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [00:13] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.174.107.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:15] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.237.105) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:16] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [00:21] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:21] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: OMG, bears over there ----> [00:22] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [00:23] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:29] Yup... adding export LDFLAGS="-L/usr/lib64" before running the slackbuild made it work correctly. [00:29] suid0_ (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:30] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*net.pbthawe.eu expired. [00:30] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*net.pbthawe.eu' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:30] suid0_ (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [00:31] MarkT-: good to hear [00:31] man, that package took a long time to build. [00:31] almost an hour and a half. [00:31] which package was that? [00:32] I was not familiar with that package, but that fix has helped me in the past [00:32] OpenCASCADE [00:33] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.174.107.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:34] ah [00:35] Well, I'm finally at a point where I can build the actual package I wanted to installl... I had to install the other ones because they were prequisites for it... [00:36] that is the way it goes [00:36] yeah... 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[00:47] suid0_ (~suid0@189.121.96.26) left irc: Changing host [00:47] suid0_ (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [00:47] user2438 (~user45925@adsl-76-250-139-140.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:47] MarkT- (1000@S010600248c3ee38b.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:48] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-181.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:48] Damn, damn, damn, damn, damn!!!!! [00:48] reinstall [00:48] multlib has screwed me again. [00:48] Nick change: tuvok302Lappy -> tuvok302 [00:48] knut__ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-68-187.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [00:49] Trying to install FreeCad from slackbuilds.org.... it ultimately fails with this error : /usr/lib64/../lib/libstdc++.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format [00:51] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:51] tuvok302 (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-181.dial.telus.net) left ##slackware. [00:51] mancha: I don't need to reinstall... [00:52] but I can't see any way around this problem without uninstalling multlib [00:52] staying away from -current might be another solution. [00:52] that's unrelated to this, mancha... this is a package I've downloaded from slackbuilds.org [00:53] slackbuilds supports the stable release [00:53] kwabbles (~kwabbles@cpe-76-173-169-106.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: kwabbles has no reason [00:53] And that's what I'm using. [00:53] 13.1 [00:53] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [00:53] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-176-136.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [00:54] Action: MarkT- grumbles. [00:55] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:55] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-173-241-190.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [00:56] MarkT-: what does "echo $PATH" show you? [00:57] BP{k}: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/java/jdk/bin:/usr/lib64/kde4/libexec:/usr/lib64/qt/bin:/usr/share/texmf/bin [00:59] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [00:59] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:00] j0z (~JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:02] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:02] ok, cleaning this system is not giving me the free space numbers i need. time to do some radical package-ectomies: removepkg++ [01:05] Action: MarkT- sighs. [01:06] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:06] Okay, the FreeCAD slackbuild definitely needs some revision to work on a multilib system. [01:07] As does OpenCASCADE. xerces-c needs adjustment to compute architecture correctly. [01:08] How the hell is it that I could hit three packages with these problems all in one day? [01:11] What would be nice is if the compat32 libs could be parcelled into a corner where nothing other than actual 32-bit packages could see them [01:13] the good thing about open-sourced software is that you are free to change it in any way you see fit [01:14] hey again all [01:14] ls [01:14] oops, wrong session [01:15] wooo-ho [01:15] buzzin: sup? [01:15] yo [01:15] i think i got like a solid 9 hours of sleep [01:16] cool [01:16] suid0_ (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:16] i haven't gone to bed yet [01:16] slackware is killing me [01:16] :0 [01:16] buzzin: really... [01:16] buzzin: what's the issue? i *might* be able to help [01:17] hell, i have to mess with everything [01:17] buzzin: be more specific [01:17] suid0_ (~suid0@189.121.96.26) joined ##slackware. [01:17] suid0_ (~suid0@189.121.96.26) left irc: Changing host [01:17] suid0_ (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [01:17] i have spent houres setting everything up in 13.1 [01:17] j0z (~JESUS@187.112.177.82) joined ##slackware. [01:18] j0z (~JESUS@187.112.177.82) left irc: Changing host [01:18] j0z (~JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [01:18] life is good [01:18] hexhawk: which would require that I spend who knows how long looking through the source code just to the point that I could understand it well enough to fix something that shouldn't have happened in the first place. [01:18] Slackbuilds are supposed to be: download, build, install, done. [01:18] buzzin: you mean slackbuilds or the system itself? [01:18] multilib is a different story [01:18] suid0_ (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:19] MarkT-: by whose standards? [01:19] slackbuilds are tested on a stock system [01:19] i need to back up everything for next build [01:19] Okay.... [01:19] suid0_ (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [01:19] MarkT-: yeah, multilib is a different animal than stock [01:19] like i need to partition better [01:19] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:19] so i don;t have to re-install everything etc [01:20] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [01:20] buzzin: the problem with that, if you have a separate /usr, you can break your package management [01:20] if multilib is expected to cause some slackbuilds to not work, then multilib has to go. [01:20] MarkT-: multilib *does* break some slackbuilds [01:21] MarkT-: but, in my experience, you can remove multilib, build, reinstall multilib [01:21] what i think I'm going to do next time, well now is move everything to a hot swap drive as a back up [01:21] on a new install I install everything non-multilib related first, then multilib [01:22] hexhawk: that's a better method...i usually don't plan my slackbuilds [01:22] don't get we wrong, i love "slackware" butt it;s a bitch setting everything up[ [01:23] hexhawk: i usually, "hey, i could use this" cd slackbuilds/xxx/yyy && source yyy.info && wget $DOWNLOAD && sh yyy.Slackbuild && installpkg yyy* [01:23] for example, when i use to use zenwalk i didn't have to F with everything etc [01:24] okay.... that works, I guess... do a removepkg /var/log/packages/*compat32*, build the slackbuild, then reinstall the compat32 packages. [01:24] MarkT-: that's what i usually do [01:24] I only use, fluxbox & xfce now [01:24] nyRednek: I know what you mean, the ironic thing for me is that the stuff I spend the most time on getting to work is the stuff I use the least [01:24] buzzin: i can't get far from fvwm2 [01:25] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) joined ##slackware. [01:25] hexhawk: i've noticed that too [01:26] MarkT: ??? explain >>???? [01:26] buzzin: explain which? [01:26] hexhawk: i still keep kde3 on here for the wife and kids, in case they get bored with xfce(and they do) [01:26] o a removepkg /var/log/packages/*compat32*\ [01:27] that just removes the compat32 packages from my system. [01:27] ? what [01:28] buzzin: removing 32 bit stuff from a multilib system so that a slackbuild doesn't try to use them to build on a 64 bit system [01:28] Which part didn't you understand? [01:28] viriatus (~viriatus@189.107.115.72) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:28] oooh, ok,, yeah i use 64 bit current [01:28] as do I [01:29] Action: nyRednek is using 13.1 on a pII [01:29] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:29] kde4 doesn't work too well on that [01:29] but I had multilib and compat32 installed because there are a couple of programs I use all the time that require them. [01:29] om f-in god [01:29] you using kde ? [01:29] MarkT-: let me guess, is one of them either wine or zsnes? [01:30] no, nyRednek. [01:30] buzzin: a couple of the users on this system do [01:30] buzzin: 3.5.10 doesn't lag too bad [01:31] i stop using { kde } after 3.0 when it became gay as fuck [01:31] buzzin: as i said, i keep coming back to fvwm2 [01:31] One is acrobat reader, the other is Maple. [01:31] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [01:31] MarkT-: personally, i make heavy use of evince [01:32] MarkT-: but i can see using adobe's reader for a couple of reasons [01:32] MarkT-: never used maple [01:32] I don't know what Maple is but there are pleanty of good Linux pdf viewers, evince is a great example [01:32] kde, use to be usable & customizable but that all has changed [01:33] Action: nyRednek is really tempted to hack out a slackbuild for apache harmoney [01:33] s/harmoney/harmony/ [01:33] even , gnome uses way to many resources [01:33] mishehu (~mishehu@rakdanit.shavedgoats.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:33] hexhawk: evince doesn't handle PDF's with toggleable layers. [01:34] buzzin: oh, i don't have a gnome dist installed...just the deps to a few apps i like [01:34] thankfully I don't use pdfs with toggleable layers, whatever that is [01:34] and, right now, thanks to my infinite wisdom of looking at a couple bsd's, i'm building stuff again [01:34] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:35] good night all [01:35] only window managers that make since to me these days are, the box managers xfce and bsd [01:35] buzzin: i'm still partial to fvwm [01:36] hexhawk: it's where the PDF has a script that allows you to control which elements in the PDF are visible. [01:36] if fvwm parsed .desktop files, i'd be in heaven [01:37] hmmm, I have never checked that out,,,, ( fvwm ) [01:37] buzzin: it's included in slack [01:37] really ? [01:38] The message that shows up in evince, when I click the icon in the PDF to activate it says "This file requires Acrobat 6 or later to function properly, because it utilizes layering features only present in versions of Acrobat after 6." [01:41] f, ummm xwmconfig [01:41] ? [01:42] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [01:42] i don't remember seeing that ? [01:42] buzzin: fvwm2 is part of slack [01:42] buzzin: xwmconfig should show it [01:42] Anyways... I regularly access pdf's that require features that only acrobat seems to support. [01:43] hmmmm] [01:43] MarkT-: not complaining [01:43] I'll try it [01:43] MarkT-: understood you [01:43] rebooting [01:43] buzzin: why reboot? [01:43] ? why [01:43] how the f would i do so ? [01:43] then [01:43] buzzin: you shouldn't have to reboot to change wm's [01:44] may be exit x, but not reboot [01:44] ooh really please tell [01:44] ok how [01:44] buzzin: yeah, really [01:44] i have never done it that way before [01:44] buzzin: are you using runlevel 4? or starting x from a console login? [01:44] tell me how [01:44] Maple is a commercial symbolic mathematics program that I got a student deal on while I was in college. [01:45] yes [01:45] so I can't update it to a real 64 bit version [01:45] buzzin: that wasn't a yes/no question [01:45] although I don't use it nearly as much as I used to.... I'd miss acrobat more. [01:45] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [01:45] the answer is yes to your question [01:46] buzzin: if you're in runlevel 4, you can hit ctrl+alt+f6 to get to a console login, and run xwmconfig from there, either as root for all users, or as you for your user [01:46] ask another question then [01:47] buzzin: and after configuring that, you can use ctrl+alt+bksp on console 8(your xdm console) to restart your dm [01:47] hmmm, thank you for that info [01:47] buzzin: that should fix it for you without needing to reboot [01:47] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-116.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:48] i didn't know about those commands, so thank you for that [01:50] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:50] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Gimped [01:51] okay.... I've reinstalled the original 64 bit glibc and gcc packages, removed the multilib and compat32 packages and and trying this build again. [01:52] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:52] MarkT-: the compat32 must go more than the multilib [01:53] it was referencing a lib that was from gcc, nyRednek [01:53] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [01:53] Newt Gingrich is the devil. [01:54] byteframe: no, he's a lower demon [01:54] What I really need is some sort of multilib sandbox [01:55] so that the main system doesn't look like it has the multilib or compat32 versions installed at all. [01:56] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [01:56] MarkT-: you could do that in a chroot [01:56] MarkT-: got about 10 spare gigs? [01:56] well yes, but then I'd need to mirror everything into that root as well. [01:57] MarkT-: yeah, you would [01:57] What would be nice is something that is sort of like chroot, but basically just maps some files over into the main filesystem when I'm running inside of that mode. [01:58] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:58] wow [01:59] so, what is the command to enter x in fvwm2 [01:59] i tried, startx [01:59] that didn't work [01:59] had to restart [02:00] if you are using fvwm2 you are already using X, buzzin. [02:00] then xwmconfig, fvwm2 [02:00] Reducer (~done@g230244202.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:00] I'm in fvwm2 now [02:00] okay... so what's the problem? [02:01] when i rebooted [02:01] then xwmconfig to fvwm2 [02:01] i tryed, startx [02:02] that didn't work ****** [02:02] which is what i said [02:02] what happened? [02:02] i had to restart [02:02] why? [02:02] startx didn't work [02:02] what did it do? [02:02] for me [02:03] What happened that you had to reboot? [02:03] buzzin: hmmm... [02:04] when i selected, fvwm2 @ xwmconfig i wasn't able to do a startx [02:04] buzzin: never heard of the need to restart [02:04] what do you mean you weren't able to od s startx? [02:04] that's what i always do to enter a window manager in slackware [02:04] er.... able to do a startx, I mean [02:04] xfce or fluxbox [02:04] Okay... and what happened when you typed startx [02:05] look up i already told you [02:05] No.... you've just said it didn't work and you had to reboot. [02:06] You haven't said WHAT it did that required you to reboot. [02:06] buzzin: when we ask what happened, we generally want an error message [02:06] where is the menue [02:06] in xterm [02:06] buzzin: left-click anywhere [02:06] Nick change: Guest60305 -> BiCHiTo [02:06] BiCHiTo (Yposu4i2zw@bnc25.nggn.info) left irc: Changing host [02:06] BiCHiTo (Yposu4i2zw@unaffiliated/bichito) joined ##slackware. [02:06] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-71-210.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:07] wtf, that isn't working [02:07] it should have...left-click anywhere in the blue [02:07] there wasn't a error [02:07] okay... so what happened? [02:07] it should pop up a menu [02:07] what did you see happen on your computer screen? [02:07] nope just making screen black [02:08] ? [02:08] Do you have a cursor? [02:08] no menue [02:08] yes [02:08] What is the shape of the cursor? [02:08] this is stupid [02:08] that's not an answer to the question. [02:08] like a I [02:08] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:09] mouse cursor [02:09] okay, and is it that shape no matter where you move on the screen? [02:09] buzzin: go back to xfce... [02:10] newslacker (~root@207-119-203-183.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [02:10] yes,,, left click does nothing & right mouse click does the I and turns the screen black [02:10] buzzin: again, go back to xfce [02:10] no menue [02:10] ? why I'm here now [02:12] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [02:12] morning [02:13] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [02:15] Holy crap, that was like pulling teeth... [02:15] I finally got the package built and installed [02:15] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:16] j0z (~JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:17] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [02:20] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [02:20] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:21] MarkT- (1000@S010600248c3ee38b.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:23] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [02:27] kickback_ (~shivam@122.173.247.146) joined ##slackware. [02:35] cbpye (~cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:41] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:41] j0z (~JESUS@187.112.142.83) joined ##slackware. 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WTF is up with Nepomuk in -current? [02:51] crocket (1000@147.47.227.197) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:51] the problem with nepomuk is that it exists [02:52] just disable it [02:55] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-16.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:58] mrcarrot (~lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) joined ##slackware. [02:58] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:59] hello [02:59] heya mrcarrot [02:59] :) [02:59] hey mrcarrot [03:00] hey hey [03:01] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [03:01] except for the normal computer work, i am working a few hours a week for a school. [03:01] there i have to arrange a competition [03:02] it should take about 10 min and be computer related [03:02] do you have any suggestions what i could come up with? [03:02] those that will participate are 15-16 years old [03:03] sunzofman (~sunzofman@c-69-246-40-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:03] i can come up with boring things, like changing a file with a few hundreds of "surname firstname" to become "firstname surname" [03:04] but it would be nice to have something really funny for those kids [03:05] to write a rot13 encoder [03:06] in 10 min? when they do not even know to write one single line of code [03:06] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-141-84.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:07] okay then to write a rot-26 encoder [03:07] lol [03:07] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [03:07] rot26 ftw! [03:08] that swapping columns idea is at least solvable by googling [03:08] if you write in google: [03:08] swap columns text file linux [03:08] you get it straight as the first result [03:09] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.169.69.62) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:09] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.2, revision: 4740, sources date: 20100627, built on: 2010-08-08 18:29:00 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:09] AnTourter (~gggjlt@geog-a111.ggy.bris.ac.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:10] rot13 can be made even with tr from the command line [03:10] but i doubt they will do it in 10 min [03:11] i doubt most groups will get that columns swapping done in 10 minutes either, but then i will rule the winner to be the one with most names converted [03:12] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:13] mrcarrot: how are they with simple bash commands? [03:13] AnTourter (~gggjlt@geog-a111.ggy.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:14] MLanden: many of them have never been touching the console [03:14] mshade (~mshade@pool-74-96-245-58.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [03:14] ahhh...P&C(point/click) [03:14] the competition can be anything hardware or software related... [03:15] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:15] it can be something with bash... as long as there is hope they can google up a solution in less than 10 min [03:15] ge '[N-Mn-m]' '[A-MN-Za-mn-z]' [03:15] has anyone else on -current had problems with applications like Amarok, Kontact, and Akregator segfaulting? [03:16] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:16] AnTourter_ (~gggjlt@geog-a111.ggy.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:18] mrcarrot: is this just computer lab or is it connected to another class(i.e. history,math etc.)? [03:19] mrcarrot, okay, how about a script to produce all possible 5-charscter strings from the alphabet: a,b,c,d,e [03:19] eg cdeab [03:19] AnTourter (~gggjlt@geog-a111.ggy.bris.ac.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:20] it will all happen in a computer lab [03:20] tsuyoi (panda@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) joined ##slackware. [03:20] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*net.pbthawe.eu' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [03:20] tsuyoi kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Congrats, c1az, asshattery just made your ban longer. [03:20] i have a neat solution to this question, btw [03:21] :) [03:21] honestly, i would have to think a bit myself before making a such [03:22] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:26] mancha: tell your solution, i got curious! [03:27] echo {a,b,c,d,e}{a,b,c,d,e}{a,b,c,d,e}{a,b,c,d,e}{a,b,c,d,e} [03:28] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:28] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-10-113.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:28] okay, i misread the question [03:28] i understood it as all the permutations [03:29] ok, that is also simple, can you come up with that one? :) [03:29] eg aaaaa should not be there as a is used several times [03:29] AnTourter_ (~gggjlt@geog-a111.ggy.bris.ac.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:29] yes you only have 120 permutations [03:29] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:29] yeah [03:29] AnTourter_ (~gggjlt@geog-a111.ggy.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:29] 5! [03:29] vs the 3125 5-character string on an 5-letter alphabet [03:31] mrcarrot: 120 [03:32] (sorry :-) ) [03:32] 5!=120 [03:32] 5! == 120 [03:32] (and, I know, it's the other way round, although I never really understood why) [03:32] 5! == 1*2*3*4*5 == 120 [03:33] mrcarrot: how about !42 ? [03:33] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [03:33] ok.. this is fridiculous... [03:33] adrien: i do not know what a ! in front of a number means [03:34] but i know what 5! means [03:34] I set my card to be eth1 in the udev rules and it didn't stick. why is that? [03:34] mrcarrot: right, it's after [03:34] and why is the aironet wanting to be eth0 in the first place? [03:34] dunno why I was under the impression it was before [03:36] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-16.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:36] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [03:37] heviarti, the first card that initializes gets the first eth number. [03:37] heviarti, see /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to override. [03:37] slava_dp: ok... so how do I un-#$&! it? [03:38] swap mac addresses of your cards in that file. [03:38] slava_dp: i did that and it changed back.. and when i set the other card to eth1 my onboard nic went to eth2?!?! [03:38] tripFantastic (1000@c-68-56-70-13.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:39] is anyone here seeing xfs panics in log? [03:39] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) joined ##slackware. [03:39] !x is sometimes used to denote the subfactorial or the number of derangements [03:40] heviarti_ (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [03:40] it doesn't make any sense. [03:40] aaack! [03:40] stinking wireless [03:40] for example !3=2 on abc you have bca and cab [03:40] slava_dp: I set the other card to eth1 in those udev rules... and it changed back to eth0. [03:41] heviarti_, it's weird that your wireless gets eth*. it should get wlan* ideally. [03:41] heviarti_: i usually face the same problems in my slack box :P [03:41] it gets both wifi0 and eth0 [03:41] go figure [03:41] odd driver [03:41] anyways, still waiting for a clever one-liner that prints all 120 permutations of 'abcde' :) [03:41] what is the card, so that I avoid it? :) [03:42] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5270.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [03:42] slava_dp: aironet [03:42] tripFantastic (1000@c-68-56-70-13.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [03:42] mine is broadcom bcm 4315 [03:42] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:43] it is as lame as the other broadcom cards [03:43] slava_dp: ei9ther way that doesn't explain why a udev rule I edited would be changed on it's own [03:43] hi all. i have two identical systems with the same files inside. in one of them many file permissions are wrong and many services do not start. i need to chmod all files to orginal permission looking at the 'correct' system. is there an easy whay to do that? (i can comunicate with ssh) [03:43] ok, if the persistent-net.rules file gets overwritten, you might need to look deeper at the udev rules in /lib/udev. [03:44] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:44] slava_dp: and whn i st the rule for the aironet to eth1, my onboard nic ended up eth2 [03:44] one other thing to try is to see your driver options, it might have an option to specify the interface name. modinfo whatever_the_aironet_module_is_named [03:44] mbohun (~mbohun@eth649.act.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [03:44] if this udev is so prone to doing BS like this why is it eevn supplied? [03:45] yeah, wouldn't it be nice if there was some documentation on the module... [03:45] there is. modinfo provides the options. [03:45] revel0___ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [03:46] I went all through the Documentation directory in the kernel source and there wasn't jack.. [03:47] so can you execute modinfo "your_aironet_module" ? [03:47] spectre (~kyle@pool-98-109-75-137.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [03:47] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [03:48] hmm.. that's new.. thy must hav addd it whenever thy startd doing this udv crud.. [03:48] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:49] this is lame.. I switch to anothr kyboard and th E key is fraky.. [03:49] lme things happn [03:49] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-428887.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:49] Leave for a while and all of asudden th whole intrnt is fould up. [03:50] I don't know what they did to yahoo mail, but it's trribly unresponsive these days [03:50] stop whining [03:50] be on topic please. [03:52] either way I don't se anything that looks like an option to force device name [03:52] devices are assigned by udev rules. [03:54] mancha: which don't seem to be working corrctly. [03:55] they work just fine. [03:55] mancha: obviously not or my network dvice names wouldn't be hosd [03:56] i would be more inclined to believe it is you that messed up than udev. [03:56] show me your rule [03:56] mancha: well, sing as it's a vanilla install I doubt it. [03:57] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:57] what does it being a vanilla install have anything to do with anything? [03:57] you want a certain behavior you write up the appropriate udev rule. show me the rule you came up with [03:59] that mans that I havn't changd any of th stock config, xcpt attmpting to set the devic to th1 from th0 in th rule which automagically appeard in /tc/udev/ruls.d [03:59] and for some rason that didn't stay dited. [04:00] pastebin it. [04:00] so I wouldn't say it's anything I'v 'messed up' [04:01] you said your eth0 became eth2 after the change. I assume, you only changed one adapter instead of both. [04:01] thr's only one rul there [04:01] there would be two lines for two cards. [04:02] well there arn't [04:02] you gotta swap the interfaces. [04:02] there's only the on [04:03] and for som rason th onboard is wanting to b th2 now.... [04:04] jand th most bizarre part of the whol thing is that eveeery device was where it blongd after I installed th card and it started walking around on th next boot. [04:05] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:05] pastebin it, will you? or do you need me to repeat things thrice before you do them? [04:05] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [04:06] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [04:07] slava_dp: http://pastebin.com/vRrh5GqR [04:07] not evn worth pastebinning. [04:07] Two boots ago that rad th1 [04:08] i have the exact same problem as heviarti_ [04:08] well, where's your second card then? [04:09] no ida. [04:09] my ethernet card doesn't appear, either [04:10] but I know if i pull th wirlss card th onboard nic will go back to bing th0, and work..and udv won't vr say a word about it's xistnc. [04:10] try running ''udevadm monitor'' and pulling and reattaching the card. [04:10] it'll tell you what it sees. [04:11] kickback_: are you 13.0 or 13.1? [04:11] 13.1 [04:12] slava_dp: that'd be doabl if it wasn't a pci card. [04:12] yeah [04:12] mine is a pci card as well [04:13] kickback_: well, I'm 13.0, so it's obviously a bug and it's obviously existd for two rlases [04:13] i still think its broadcom's fault :P [04:14] Action: slava_dp thinks it's udev's fault [04:14] i'll check my pardus installation's udev config because that seems to work fine everytime [04:15] oh boy i think i found the problem [04:15] or rather, the solution :D [04:15] so tell us [04:16] just a sec, pastebin is refusing to load [04:17] seems to me that stup should probably b making th th0 that it's st up with immutably eth0.... unless th usr decides to change it later. [04:18] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-144-21.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Take care,all!! [04:19] http://pastebin.ca/1940346 [04:21] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:21] heviarti_: try doing this [04:21] well duh. you could have added the line for the second card yourself. [04:22] but if you figure out where the bug with slackware's udev rules is, mail Pat. [04:22] lol i didn't know thats what was causing the problem [04:22] slava_dp: well, why ain't it thr in th first plac? it's not lik th onboard nic was something I addd latr [04:23] yeah, you should visit our bugzilla, and file a bug. oh, we don't have a bugzilla....? too bad :-(. then kickback_'s got to locate the problem and mail Pat :-) [04:24] yeah, too bad i guess [04:26] oh well. I'v emaild patrick very realease to fix the big thr and he ain't yet. [04:26] you should mail a _fix_, not a bug report. if he has no hardware that shows the same bug, he can't fix it. [04:26] pwc101 (~chatzilla@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:27] seems like a new project for me. point out the problem, make a patch, [04:27] i'll get to it [04:28] you might get a nice credit in the ChangeLog for that :) [04:28] hoorrray [04:28] slava_dp: i don't know that thre is a patch. and hardwar dosn't sm to matter. the xact same problems have xisted on vry slackwar machine I'v vr had all th way back to 3.4 on a ///Laser 486/sx-25. [04:29] heviarti_ displays a nice example for how annoying a non-working 'e' button can make you sound [04:30] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [04:30] it's o on th othr kyboard... [04:31] ... [04:31] and this one is going nxt boot if th other on has stoppd gnrating rapidfir kycods. [04:31] lol [04:32] caus th program key on this on doesn't work. [04:32] disrgard that, i suc cocs [04:33] you do what? [04:33] and since the remap function dosn't work, I can't workaround th tiny backspac key... [04:34] lol dud, thats lam [04:35] I actually had to hardpower my machin because th othr keyboard startd generating rapidfir keycodes and I couldn't exit X or use it. [04:35] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [04:36] kinda sucks, caus I had a whol bunch of macros programmed in that kyboard. [04:36] i don't know what thy did to yahoo mail but it's now almost as much of a drooling retard as NT. [04:38] pete` (~user@049.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:39] pwc101 (~chatzilla@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:39] holy shit Rekonq is FAST [04:39] mshade (~mshade@pool-74-96-245-58.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:39] kickback_: th who now? [04:40] the rekonq web browser [04:41] much like konqueror, but optimized for web browsing and uses webkit [04:41] gogle chrome-like inteerface. sort of. [04:42] hmmm. I'v almost xclusvly usd firefox for some years. [04:42] me too [04:42] cause FF has adblock and reconq hasn't. when rekonq gets adblock, I will switch. [04:43] (and flashblock too) [04:43] well.. I guess this is a latr kyboard... hav to do ctrl+rmap for it to work. [04:43] rekonq has adblock [04:43] but i guess not 'true' adblock [04:44] been using FF 4 beta for a while now [04:44] the problem with "not-firefox" browsers has always been lack of extensions fo rme [04:45] there we go... [04:45] yeah, and firefox is also the easiest to configure [04:45] I just programmed one of the windows keys to be E. [04:45] kickback_, firefox actually _lets_ you configure [04:46] hiptobecubic: indeed [04:46] even though about:config is kinda lame, but gets the job done [04:46] i like about:config :D [04:47] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:48] I like about:mozilla [04:49] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [04:49] There are also about: firefox, plugins, cache, possibly others [04:49] I think FF is starting to bloat... [04:50] soon it'll be a monster like netscape [04:50] huh, FF is the slowest modern browser i've used, but its still my fave [04:50] heh, when you start supporting video and audio in-browser playback, you gotta grow up in size a little. [04:51] and I have yet to see one that doesn't leak memory like a bastard. [04:51] IE <- leaky leak :D [04:52] I_lEak :) [04:52] madbear: I said memory leak, not liquid poo. [04:52] heviarti_: try dillo [04:52] lol [04:52] idle` (~idle@2a01:e35:2f43:4b00:20d:f0ff:fe56:8f4) joined ##slackware. [04:53] you know my girlfriend wa... oh, *dillo* [04:53] i once mentioned at a a party that i used dillo as a web browser. [04:54] there wasnt a single dry panty in the room after that [04:54] yeah I'm joking... I don't really hav a g/f. bitch run off with my previous roomate. [04:55] LOL!! [04:55] *2 [04:55] hope he likes playing with broken toys [04:55] lol [04:55] my case was much worse. my gf left me for a woman [04:55] no way?! [04:56] and dillo? [04:56] woman and dillo [04:57] kickback_: sizequeens are much worse then lezbines [04:57] what the hell is a sizequeen now? [04:59] kickback_: a woman who is entirely about length and girth [04:59] :/ [04:59] dude... [05:00] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.25.201) joined ##slackware. [05:00] it don't matter what's going on, if you dangle more bait she's gone. sizequeens are utterly worthless. [05:01] now on the other hand I can compete with a lesbian. [05:02] Perhaps it is wiser if you continue the discussion about your sexual adventures in the ##slackware-offtopic channel [05:02] wtf [05:02] heviarti_: you know what, i'm a grown man with a full beard, but you seriously frighten me. i'm crying like a baby right now. [05:02] Morn [05:02] yeh, take this elsewhere.. i just woke up =P [05:02] morning lads o/ [05:02] morning phrag [05:03] No sooner am I in than I have to dash to a conference call. [05:03] What is it with big companies and the need to have every job involve five companies and several conference calls a week? [05:03] they love the chat [05:04] Zordrak: the older you get the more time seems to be required for superfluous conference calls [05:04] *nod* [05:05] Action: Zordrak needs a headset or an earplug for his left ear [05:06] bnguyen (~bnguyen@123.30.12.72) joined ##slackware. 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[05:48] penguindsl7 [05:48] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: _marc` [05:48] what kernel should I update to ? from 2.6.29.6, and should I use 13.1 or 13.0 config, for desktop ....I don't know much about this stuff [05:49] hrad, if you don't know much about it, why you want to update to new kernel? [05:50] cause I have younger CPU then kernel [05:52] I guess 2.6.35.4 release and config-generic-2.6.33.4 and config-generic-2.6.33.4 from current could be o [05:52] k [05:53] best way is to build your config, and it is easiest, or try to use some basic config file and check what you need for your hw. check this http://kernel-seeds.org/ and this http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ [05:54] great, I was looking for smth like this [05:56] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [06:00] Zosma (jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:02] bnguyen (~bnguyen@123.30.12.72) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:02] bnguyen (~bnguyen@210.245.12.42) joined ##slackware. [06:09] hrad, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/call-for-testing-xorg-updates-20100830-a-829336/ <---- second post has configs for 2.6.35 [06:10] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:11] Mowah (~Mowah@c-6284e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [06:11] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:13] thank you [06:17] yw :) [06:18] s4lv4d0r (1000@190.198.245.192) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:18] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:19] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:24] s4lv4d0r (1000@190.198.245.192) joined ##slackware. [06:26] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [06:30] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [06:34] i've slackbuilds for virtualbox-ose and virtualbox-kernel and also add-ons, but there's no gui client anywhere so i can't run virtualbox, what i'm still missing? [06:35] sure there is. try running ''VirtualBox''. [06:35] also, less /var/log/packages/ will give you a filelist, so that you can inspect what went in /usr/bin. [06:36] there's no such binary, i've looked package contents [06:36] how did you install the packages? [06:36] via corresponding slackbuilds [06:37] does ls /var/log/packages/*virtualbox* show them as installed? [06:38] pete` (~user@041.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:38] yes, virtualbox-kernel, kernel add-ons, virtualbox-ose, ose add-ons [06:38] very strange [06:38] you don't need to install addons on the host OS. they are for the guest. [06:38] and i didn't explicitly built with qt disabled [06:39] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:39] and i saw qt related build messages during build [06:39] what does the file list for virtualbox-ose say went to /usr/bin? [06:39] do you have a full install? [06:39] of slackware? [06:40] yes, 13.1 [06:40] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:40] and the only binary in vbox-ose is VBoxTunctl [06:41] then apparently something went wrong :-) [06:42] i'll try to build once again [06:42] does anyone ever use the `backup` command? [06:42] virtualbox installs to /opt i think [06:42] Slobad, the closed virtualbox does. [06:48] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:49] vdv: you need to be in the vboxusers group, and relogin [06:50] the binaries are there, you are just not allowed to see them ;) [06:50] pprkut, and they not listed in package contents also? [06:51] what do you mean with package contents? [06:52] vdv: grep VBoxManage /var/log/packages/virtualbox-ose* [06:54] pprkut, there are no any files under usr/bin or usr/local/bin or sbin in filelist [06:54] what's the output of the command I gave you? [06:54] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:55] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: _marc` [06:57] pprkut, now nothing, because i've removed package and build now a new one [06:58] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:58] vdv: well, I'm almost certain you are not in the vboxusers group [06:59] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:04] pprkut, is VBoxManage gui client binary? [07:05] no, but that doesn't matter [07:05] pprkut, it's there under lib/virtualbox [07:05] where it shoudl be [07:05] pprkut, will virtualbox binary created dynamically? [07:06] or VirtualBox [07:06] trf_ (1000@shiva.norgrind.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [07:07] pprkut, ah, it's there [07:07] also under lib/virtualbox [07:07] then it's ok [07:07] i'll have to relogin [07:07] indeed [07:15] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [07:16] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:21] ridout (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [07:21] mbohun (~mbohun@eth649.act.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:28] s4lv4d0r (1000@190.198.245.192) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:28] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:28] s4lv4d0r (1000@190.198.245.192) joined ##slackware. [07:32] When I bridge two interfaces, do I need to apply iptables filtering to the bridge or to the individual interfaces still? [07:33] archceza1 (1000@bir201.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:35] Eddie_Grey (~Eddie_Gre@187.23.102.154) joined ##slackware. [07:35] iptables doesn't work very well on bridges - there's something else to use on bridge interfaces that escapes me atm [07:36] ebtables [07:36] Slobad: thanks - that's it [07:36] Candinho (~Candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) joined ##slackware. [07:36] Candinho (~Candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) left irc: Client Quit [07:36] archcezar (1000@aeg212.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:36] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5270.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:36] more like, do I need to accept the traffic on both the physical interface _and_ the bridge, or just on the bridge itself? [07:37] IIRC, you ignore the physicals and run ebtables on the bridge interface - but you may want to google ebtables for sure [07:37] alisonken1lap, Yes, you run it on the bridge [07:38] there is no IP's on the physicals that are bridged - and when you bridge the physicals, they lose their ip adx info [07:38] there's iptables -m physdev that allows filtering using iptables on the physical device too, so no need for ebtables for me. [07:38] so I just allow on the bridge and ignore the physical interfaces, right? [07:39] pretty much - you don't even assign ip's to the physicals if you're going to bridge them [07:39] allrighty, thanks. I will now try. [07:39] depending on what you want to filter would depend on if you want iptables on some things on the physicals and others using ebtables on the bridges, but I believe the setup should be filter on the bridge [07:40] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [07:40] http://ebtables.sourceforge.net/br_fw_ia/br_fw_ia.html [07:40] Seconded [07:41] thanks for the link, reading [07:43] g_3man (~wojciech@abod223.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:47] g_3man (wojciech@abod223.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [07:50] legionario (~legionari@18748163130.nit.megazon.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:50] tsuyoi (panda@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) joined ##slackware. [07:50] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*net.pbthawe.eu' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:50] tsuyoi kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Congrats, c1az, asshattery just made your ban longer. [07:52] morning [07:53] trone (~sim@host33-25-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [07:53] kickback (~shivam@122.176.142.43) joined ##slackware. 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[09:20] Do boot scripts have to work with fbsplash to show progress in the progress bar? [09:20] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [09:20] timahvo11 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:20] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:23] jota_cnp (~t7DS@201.2.1.35) joined ##slackware. [09:23] alienBOB, Do I need to edit boot scripts to make progress bar show progress? [09:24] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-142.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:25] v3gard_ (~v3gard@v3gard.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:25] wobbles (huntsman@C-61-68-168-198.bur.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:26] v3gard (~v3gard@v3gard.com) joined ##slackware. [09:26] crocket: indeed [09:26] Read the documentation for fbsplash, it should be explained by those people [09:26] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:27] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [09:27] gentoo people don't know about that. [09:27] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [09:27] Their package maintainer knows, so that the users can stay ignorant [09:28] In Slackware, it will be harder to figure out but afterwards you are king of the hill [09:29] alienBOB, and lets hope Slackware never changes :) [09:30] arfon (~arfon@66.87.0.123) joined ##slackware. [09:30] Howdy [09:30] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:33] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [09:34] When you configure a NIC with ifconfig, to which files does it store that information? [09:34] cbpye (~cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:34] Slobad: no files at all [09:35] arfon (~arfon@66.87.0.123) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:35] Manual typing of commands does not survive a reboot [09:36] that's what rc.inet1.conf is for then? [09:36] arfon (~arfon@66.87.2.103) joined ##slackware. [09:37] Slobad, yes. and rc.local. [09:37] "rc.inet1.conf" is for network configuration, not to store your "ifconfig" command [09:38] Got it! Is rc.* files the traditional way of doing things then? I was under the impression that an rc.conf file for everything was the way it was done mroe often than not. When you are told "learn slackware, learn linux", I guess you can't expect to be able to transfer everything when everyone does it so differently. [09:38] Like it though - it's neat and simple [09:38] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [09:39] Ansa89, Thanks for the info - was going to store the network information there :-) [09:40] Slobad: "man rc.inet1.conf" [09:40] alienBOB, ta [09:40] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:40] is that manpage new? [09:41] Just quickly then, because this will come up when jumping from one network to another: How do I "source" the new network configuration when I change it to go on another network? Does it take effect immediately or do I need to re-run a network command? [09:41] mshade (~mshade@pool-74-96-245-58.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:42] mancha, man -k slackware :-) [09:42] Slobad, /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 eth0_restart [09:42] slava_dp, Thank you [09:42] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:42] mancha: not new [09:43] Was trying to learn this sort of stuff on Arch and then the rolling release system decided to break. Can't be to specific because there were just too many things broken :-D [09:44] mancha: in fact, added dec 2008 [09:45] as as of 12.2 i see. [09:45] s/as// [09:45] viriatus (~viriatus@189.107.115.72) joined ##slackware. [09:46] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. 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[09:51] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [09:51] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [09:52] crocket: my guess- something is mis configured... $50 please [09:52] I'd guess a firewall. [09:52] crocket: my guess- something is mis configured... $49.99 please [09:53] :) [09:55] inckka (~xenoneliv@202.129.235.39) joined ##slackware. [09:55] :) [09:55] huh [09:55] I can't connect to a samba server on another network. [09:56] crocket: Slobad> Can you connect using samba to another destination? [09:56] arfon, you can't charge for that! [09:56] VAT buddy [09:56] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:57] crocket: Slobad> Can you connect using samba to another destination? [09:57] Hey, I gave you credit, now take your pittance like a good artist [09:57] Okay, this is getting out of hand! :-D [09:57] Is it basically possible normally? [09:57] my advice is distributed under the BSD license [09:58] Kritoslap (~Kritoslap@188.24.210.157) joined ##slackware. [09:58] mshade (~mshade@pool-74-96-245-58.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:58] crocket, Does that mean you can connect to anywhere other than this specific server? [09:58] crocket: The question here is: Is it a Samba configuration issue or a network issue.... [09:58] http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/10/09/14/1211205/HDCP-Master-Key-Revealed?from=rss [09:59] 1) Your Samba server is misconfigured, 2) Your Samba client is misconfigured or 3) Your network (e.g. firewall) is misconfigured [10:00] $9.98 please [10:00] just take logical steps to eliminate those 3 possible causes $4.99 a month + VAT [10:01] vinisterx (~ryan@74-129-201-82.dhcp.insightbb.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:01] to stop advice from slobad please text GO AWAY YOU FLAMING IDIOT to 12345 [10:01] text's cost a fortune and additional network charges may apply [10:02] Please anybody could help me out for configure my 3G Broadband Modem under WCID 1.5.9 ? [10:02] vinisterx (~ryan@74-129-201-82.dhcp.insightbb.com) joined ##slackware. [10:02] wicd duzzen't do broadband, innit?> [10:02] inckka: use Kppp [10:02] FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found. :( [10:03] kpp, thanx [10:03] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [10:03] make & make install (as root) was done without errors [10:03] Reducer, slackbuilds.org [10:03] FATALITY! [10:03] I'll install it and let u know progress. [10:03] Animality! [10:03] Is it available in 12.1 rep's ? [10:04] no one seems to care about the hdcp master key being found out [10:04] thx [10:04] but it means you can unlock blue-ray and copy and play them on linux now [10:04] Skywise, That's not true, we care - it's not you, it's us [10:04] inckka: we went through this story yesterday. Today, the same people are still here and will give the same answers [10:04] inckka: It should be in KDE already.... [10:04] its kind of a big deal i thought [10:04] revel0___ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:05] Thax arfon [10:05] inckka: step 1 install Slackware 13.1.... step 2) use Kppp step 3) PROFIT! [10:05] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:06] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-77.viapori.fi) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:06] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-77.viapori.fi) joined ##slackware. [10:06] arfon, i notice you're not specifying how much profit this time round... sneaky [10:06] if you don't have Kppp, you can configure pppd to do it or, you can us wvdial.... kppp is the easiest [10:06] I gt wvdial [10:07] I'm working on a backroom deal to undercut you and eliminate you as a competitor.... [10:07] pppd is the easiest :) [10:07] Bill Gates is my hero [10:07] HA HA! slava_dp, you're funny [10:08] my wvdial client cnnected successsfully, But my brwser telling me no network [10:08] inckka, what about dns? [10:08] Yeah... you have to fix dns [10:09] arfon, I like to configure pppd myself, then do # pppd dial provider1. works great. [10:09] Hows fix dns [10:09] l00t- (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.70.192) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [10:10] inckka, # echo 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf [10:10] dns fixed. [10:10] FreonTrip (~freontrip@p145x132.tceq.state.tx.us) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:10] plWait pals I'm trying [10:10] I made a two liner shell script to copy over a resolv.conf file every time wvdilaer connects [10:10] I want to do that slava_dp... I had pppd working like that but that dns bug made me think it was broken... [10:11] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:11] ...so I installed wvdial and realized that my dns wasn't being set correctly.... [10:11] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [10:11] arfon, what dns bug? [10:11] Shall I paste here what my resolv.conf showing? [10:11] Only two lines. [10:11] I fixed that and had wvdial working so I just left it.... [10:12] No, da fixing is still not ok to me. [10:12] it should be more like echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" > /etc/resolv.conf :) [10:13] oh, fsck, I failed. absolutely, I forgot the nameserver part. [10:13] I don't know that it's a 'bug', it's probably that I don't know enough about pppd but, when I connect with pppd, it doesn't update my resolv.conf [10:13] Action: slava_dp facepalms [10:13] spectre (~kyle@pool-98-109-75-137.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:14] arfon, this is easily solved. rm /etc/resolv.conf && ln -s /etc/ppp/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf [10:14] MReimer (~chatzilla@p4FD4A680.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [10:14] my resolve.conf showing = > nameserver 172.19.10.25 # CHESTNUT DIALER TEMP ENTRY [10:14] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [10:15] that is a non-workable solution. use slava's suggested google dns [10:15] 172.19.x.x is not public address space [10:15] inckka, echo -e "nameserver 8.8.8.8\nnameserver 8.8.4.4" > /etc/resolv.conf [10:16] Meaning: I connect ithe ethernet and Slackware sets dns to whatever the DHCP server says.... Next time I connect with pppd, it doesn't fix dns [10:17] arfon, pppd updates /etc/ppp/resolv.conf. you have to symlink it to /etc/resolv.conf if you want to use it. [10:18] guys could be the SVG graphic rendering in browsers fixed by this package ? http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/libraries/wxsvg/ [10:18] also, "usepeerdns" has to be set in pppd options, I believe. [10:18] or use the -r (?) option to not overwrite your resolv.conf and set it manually [10:18] My solution: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/hxzhEg96.html [10:19] hard to find these dependencies http://pastebin.com/rz6GX3vw [10:19] alison, that is for dhcp, for ppp you do what slava's suggesting [10:19] TY slava_dp ! I did not know that [10:19] you can also have it done via scripts and DNS1 variable [10:19] I'm gonna disconnect my chestnut and, let me try the wvdial. If it success i"ll reconnect soon!!! [10:20] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:20] inckka (xenoneliv@202.129.235.39) left ##slackware. [10:20] inckka (~xenoneliv@202.129.235.39) joined ##slackware. [10:20] inckka (xenoneliv@202.129.235.39) left ##slackware. [10:22] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [10:22] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [10:23] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [10:23] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [10:24] I wish opendns wasn't so flaky, I'd use them [10:25] arfon, use google dns. 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4. I use these sometimes, work very well. [10:25] faster, than my provider's servers. [10:25] Open to anyone? [10:25] sure [10:25] You sir just made my day [10:25] inckka (~xenoneliv@202.129.234.213) joined ##slackware. [10:26] Up and RUNNING pals, UP and RUNNING, Every thing works charm, GREAT THANX FOR ALL OF YOU GUYS !!! wvdial. connected :D Thanx again. [10:26] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:26] You gonna switch to Slackware to thanks us? [10:26] Sure pal. [10:26] :) [10:26] let me some time. [10:26] as danielle soloud once said, CONGRATS :) [10:26] yeah, right :) [10:27] Who is danielle soloud? [10:27] we are the champions.... [10:27] $2.99 please [10:27] I wonder how that resolve.conf fixed my issue. [10:28] Is that IP number a universal? [10:28] The 8.8.8.8 should be [10:29] yea [10:31] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@20150153193.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:31] If you use it, you need to go into your dhcp setup and turn off the dns update part [10:32] Otherwise, the next time you connect via dhcp, it's gonna blow up your static dns setting [10:32] chmod -w /etc/resolv.conf [10:32] ...or do that [10:32] Aaha, You mean If I reboot I'll lost? [10:33] no, if you connect an ethernet cable.... [10:33] do what slava_dp said [10:33] philpp (~phil@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:33] Ok, thx 4 infrming. [10:33] hey guys, why does it tell me, when I try to build some stuff that "linux/autoconf.h is missing" [10:33] is it missing? [10:34] philpp: cause its missing [10:34] well how do I instal it [10:34] obviously it's missing [10:34] why is it missing is the question [10:34] what slack version? [10:34] latest [10:34] I would check that I have kernel-headers. [10:34] did you install all of the development packages? [10:34] arfon, yeah I think I did [10:34] ignore me [10:34] you probably are trying to compile something old [10:35] Thax for helping me pals. Finally I got a great day, very supportive community. YOU ARE A GREAT CROWD! [10:35] I'm not reading eveything [10:35] inckka (xenoneliv@202.129.234.213) left ##slackware. [10:35] mancha, I'm trying to do this: [10:35] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-10-113.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:35] make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build M=`pwd` [10:35] yeah, your module is old. [10:35] how to fix [10:36] is autoconf.h not needed by modern software? [10:36] it's been deprecated [10:37] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [10:37] i think that now you use generated/autoconf.h not linux/autoconf.h [10:37] could I symlink it or whatever [10:37] try that hack but the best thing is to get code that dances tango with new kernels [10:38] I can't, it's some driver provided by a company [10:38] you could, or you could just edit the source code so the line looks like: # include [10:38] ok [10:38] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [10:38] I'll try that [10:38] now, this is a superficial change, if there are deeper problems relating to substantive kernel api changes you're in for potentially lots of patching [10:39] thumbs (1000@unaffiliated/thumbs) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:40] philpp: which kernel module is it? [10:40] anybody ? there is SVG graphics in browsers (SVG diagrams) which needs libraries for rendering what are they : ) [10:41] librsvg, firefox/seamonkey/xulrunner's implementation, webkit*'s? [10:41] adrien, how would I found it [10:41] make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build M=`pwd` [10:41] that's what I'm running [10:41] philpp: what are *you* trying to build? [10:41] adrien, some broadcom linux drivers [10:41] following this guide: [10:42] http://jomcode.com/fadhil/jomcode/broadcom-official-linux-driver-bcm4312/ [10:42] and currently, firefox' implementation of svg is better than librsvg's [10:42] philpp: what about http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/network/broadcom-sta/ ? [10:42] http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.1/network/broadcom-sta/broadcom-sta-5.60.48.36-linux-2.6.33.patch [10:43] haha. fail. [10:43] nice... [10:43] oh cool I can just use that [10:43] adrien, thanks [10:44] adrien, I got these [10:44] philpp, you can just learn about slackbuilds.org now :-) [10:44] librsvg [10:44] hrad: what are you trying to do? [10:45] slava_dp, I've already built slackbuilds before [10:45] in fact I just installed openoffice via slackbuilds [10:45] chrome can't render them [10:45] adrien, http://tutorials.jenkov.com/java-persistence/advanced-connection-and-transaction-demarcation-and-propagation.html [10:45] philpp, and what was the reason for not checking the driver with SBo first? :) [10:45] for instance on this site [10:46] but I asked people with few other distributions of linux and same version of chrome [10:46] and it works [10:46] hrad: chrome or chromium? [10:46] so I suppose there are libraries other then librsvg [10:46] chrome [10:46] I doubt it [10:47] 5 and 6 both from slackbuilds.org [10:47] chrome uses webkit which has its own implementation of svg [10:47] slava_dp, I didn't know they had drivers [10:47] I use the same deb release as my friend on ubuntu [10:47] for him it works [10:47] no need to be condescending [10:48] philpp: but chrome or chromium? did the slackbuild take ages to compile/run? [10:48] adrien, no it didn't take very long at all [10:48] laterz everyone! ;-) [10:49] adrien, why [10:49] bye slava_dp [10:49] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [10:49] hrad, the binary repackage (which I maintain at SBo) of chrome renders SVG here, it is rendering the site you linked just fine. [10:50] philpp: argh, sorry, that was meant for hrad /o\  [10:51] now that I have installed the driver via slackbuilds, what do I need to do [10:51] I have been using fwcutter before, do I need to disable it [10:51] and b43 driver [10:51] you can't have them both [10:51] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:51] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [10:51] so blacklist the b43 stuff if you want to use sta [10:51] ok what was the blacklist file again [10:52] /etc/modprobe.d [10:52] what do I put in there [10:52] google.com [10:52] oh fail nvm [10:53] why the hell doesn't it work for me :-) I have missing plugins in there... [10:53] erik, the only error I'm getting is this one : http://pastebin.com/4j6Fw5ac [10:54] mancha, so now that I have blacklisted b43, is there anything else I need to do besides restart [10:54] the sta driver comes with a readme file [10:54] it didn't say anything helpful, I read it [10:55] it just says the package includes the kernel module wl which contains the kernel drivers that support bc cards etc [10:55] erik, doesn't matter, I installed opera and I will switch to it everytime it happens [10:56] hrad, hmm I don't know anything about that error. no extra plugins are needed for chrome to render svg. at least not if you used my SlackBuild [10:56] brb restarting [10:56] erik, using 64 bit or 32 ? [10:56] philpp (~phil@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:56] hrad, I am using 64bit [10:57] me2 [10:57] the useless stuff in the readme: "# modprobe wl; The new wl driver should now be operational and your all done." 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[11:01] mancha, I restarted with b43 blacklisted and modprobed wl, but it didn't make wireless work, what am I doing wrong [11:01] read the readme [11:01] I already did [11:01] re-read then [11:02] mancha, all it says is that it includes the kernel module 'wl' [11:02] no, it says more [11:03] then it says read the license [11:03] the readme is 318 lines long, it says more than "kernel module wl included" [11:04] the readme I'm reading is like 7 lines long [11:04] what readme are you reading [11:04] README.txt [11:04] http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.1/network/broadcom-sta/README [11:04] no [11:04] where did you get another readme from? [11:05] mancha, can you paste a link to it please [11:05] no [11:05] Nick change: xchg_chrr -> xchg [11:07] It's in the freakin' source tarball. [11:07] found it already [11:07] I assumed the docs would be with what you download on slackbuilds [11:09] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-66-79.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[11:46] Slobad (~slobad23@92.17.228.133) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:49] _tecra (~fake.emai@70-36-146-98.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [11:52] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.114.2) joined ##slackware. [11:53] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [11:54] Reducer (~reducer@g226108120.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:54] Anyone having problems in KDE under -current with icon images? I get the generic icons instead of previews of the file. [11:58] FusionX (~FusionX@unaffiliated/fusionx) left irc: Quit: Bnc Problem Brb! [11:58] FusionX (kottizen@millie.kottnet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:58] FusionX (kottizen@millie.kottnet.net) left irc: Excess Flood [11:59] for absolutely all filetypes? [11:59] yeah [11:59] FusionX (kottizen@millie.kottnet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:59] pdf,jpg etc, all generic icons images now [12:00] gabriel (~gabriel@nat-wifi-voip.campus.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. [12:00] generic icons, not even the "image" icon? [12:00] yeah I get the plain KDE image icon icon [12:01] But I had become used to seeing the previews of the actual file [12:01] I just don't know where to trouble shoot this one [12:02] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:04] *I* would strace the whole beast [12:04] hammer [12:04] or maybe RPG actually [12:04] but it works and it doesn't require too much thinking [12:05] don't make me get the hose adrien [12:05] I hate switches :( [12:06] after some minor VLAN modifications.. a machine on a completely unrelated port can access the whole network but cant ping the switch its actually plugged intop [12:06] i mean what the hell [12:09] might be gremlins [12:09] FusionX (kottizen@millie.kottnet.net) left irc: Quit: Bnc Problem Brb! [12:09] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:09] asarch (~asarch@189.188.153.44) joined ##slackware. [12:10] FusionX (FusionX@millie.kottnet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:10] antiwire: heh, you'd get the info ;p [12:10] FusionX (FusionX@millie.kottnet.net) left irc: Excess Flood [12:10] which vlan has the pingable IP? [12:10] is it the default vlan? [12:10] I have a system developed in java, I created a script that executes after the execution of the gnome, but would like to make it run on its own indepent gnome only with X11 Anyone know the ropes? [12:11] FusionX (FusionX@millie.kottnet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:11] tsuyoi (panda@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) joined ##slackware. [12:11] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*net.pbthawe.eu' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:11] tsuyoi kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Congrats, c1az, asshattery just made your ban longer. [12:13] haha [12:13] what up Necos [12:14] you back in socal? [12:14] yep [12:14] been back [12:14] nice [12:14] hmmm [12:15] conky is broken... [12:15] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:15] looking for iwlib.h, but there's no such thing [12:16] kwabbles (~kwabbles@h-67-101-178-243.lsanca54.static.covad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:16] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [12:18] tsuyoi (panda@unaffiliated/akmal) joined ##slackware. [12:18] Action: Zordrak thinks it's just not worth it anymore and decides to end it all [12:18] Action: Zordrak executes # nmap 0.0.0.0/0 [12:18] nmap all -.- [12:19] phrag: *poke* - apparant ban evasion ^ [12:19] either that or a bad mask [12:20] lol [12:21] dude! I scanned 127.0.0.1 and this person runs all the same services as I do! [12:21] sneaky! [12:22] Zordrak, hostmask changed, he got a cloak. [12:22] n00mada (~chatzilla@208.68.48.106) joined ##slackware. [12:23] fire|bird: so, it is or isnt the intended recipient? [12:23] even better xD [12:24] Zordrak, from what I can tell, it's the same person, which is banned. [12:24] \o adrien :) [12:25] well/ s/which/whom/ [12:25] hi fire|bird =) [12:26] Kritoslap (~Kritoslap@188.24.210.157) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:26] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-91-10.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:27] Sk3daR (NOIR@189-39-144-231.gru.flash.tv.br) joined ##slackware. [12:30] iwlib.h is in wireless tools... silly me... [12:32] Action: adrien pats Necos [12:32] Who's evading a ban now? [12:32] tsuyoi [12:33] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [12:33] When was he banned? Recently? [12:33] "tsuyoi < kicked from ##slackware by slackboy [Banned: Congrats, c1az, asshattery just made your ban longer.]" [12:34] recently as in 23 minutes ago [12:34] *sigh* Will they never learn? 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[13:39] artvdroid (~androirc@118.sub-97-63-114.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [13:42] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] join #python [13:43] hate when I do that... :) [13:45] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) joined ##slackware. [13:47] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.114.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:47] yeah, I'd hate to join #python too :P [13:48] kqemu has been killed actually [13:48] because of kvm, but I think it's a shame [13:48] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.102.211) joined ##slackware. [13:49] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:50] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Quit: Quitte [13:52] koolniczka (~nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) joined ##slackware. [13:52] telperion (~Adium@proxy2.unal.edu.co) joined ##slackware. [13:52] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) joined ##slackware. [13:52] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [13:53] telperion (Adium@proxy2.unal.edu.co) left ##slackware. [13:54] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:55] mathus (~matheus@e389.ip15.netikka.fi) joined ##slackware. [13:55] iplcmd (matthew@68.67.76.100) joined ##slackware. [13:55] hey guys [13:55] hello all slackers [13:56] http://www.samba.org/samba/ftp/stable/samba-3.5.5.tar.gz [13:56] and? [13:56] [ ]samba-3.5.5.tar.gz 14-Sep-2010 04:23 29M [13:56] FATAL: Error inserting vboxguest (/lib/modules/2.6.34-smp/misc/vboxguest.ko): Invalid module format [13:56] BlackGoat (~freontrip@p147x254.tceq.state.tx.us) joined ##slackware. [13:56] iplcmd: I'm still failing to see what you want? [13:57] vdv: vboxdrv setup [13:57] is it possible to fix this problem i've got? "error: no /sbin/init found on rootdev" [13:57] it says it's not implemented [13:57] Dominian: why do i have to want something? [13:57] and have to use slackbuild [13:57] vdv: Then follow the instructions.. probably missing the kernel module package tha tbuilds the kernel moduels for you [13:57] iplcmd: I'm assuming you're telling us about samba 3.5.5 for a reason [13:58] Dominian: its a security fix [13:58] vdv, try "sh /etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv setup" [13:58] Ansa89, it says that setup is not implemented [13:58] :-s [13:58] iplcmd: Then you should probably email volkerdi@slackware.com [13:58] vdv: what does dmesg say? [13:58] Ansa89, i use slackbuild version of virtualbox [13:58] and point out the security fix.. but my guess is he already knows [13:59] vdv, maybe there is something wrong with your kernel [13:59] viriatus (~viriatus@189.107.115.72) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:00] vboxdrv start works [14:00] but vboxadd not [14:01] adrien, vboxguest: exports duplicate symbol RTMemExecFree (owned by vboxdrv) [14:01] that was in dmesg [14:01] modprobe -r both ? [14:02] and is it an update of vbox or a clean install? [14:02] clean install [14:02] |Slacker| (~cris@ct-nat1.intranet.ct.utfpr.edu.br) joined ##slackware. [14:02] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [14:02] that's probably because of slackbuild is intended to be used with 13.1 default kernel [14:03] but i've upgraded to 2.34 [14:03] ups [14:03] 2.6.34 [14:03] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:03] which... you have to rebuild the kenrel module for that [14:03] odd that its not working [14:04] vdv: something that came up was that you would have the vbox additions installed on the machine [14:04] mathus (~matheus@e389.ip15.netikka.fi) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:05] which slackbuilds have you used? [14:05] for 13.1 [14:06] virtualbox-kernel [14:06] vdv: -addons? [14:06] and virtualbox-kernel-addons [14:06] remove that one [14:06] it's for use *INSIDE* the virtual machine [14:06] first 'modprobe -r vboxdrv' [14:06] ah [14:06] that works [14:06] vdv: Did you reinstall the virtualbox-kernel slackbuild after updatin the kernel? [14:06] loading only vboxdrv works [14:07] addons didn't worked [14:07] i thought that they should also work [14:07] hey guys, i need some thoughts...brainstorming...found a 160gig HD that i'd like to use as a /home drive, but it's formatted fat32, has data i don't want to lose, and that data takes up more room than my other hd's combined [14:07] adamk, i've just installed virtualbox, first time [14:07] nyRednek: compression? =) [14:08] Anyone have any experience with fglrx + AGP Radeon HD cards? I'm wondering what to expect. [14:08] vdv: well, the only thing is that you must not have both installed and running at once [14:08] adrien, i don't need kernel-addons, right? [14:08] adrien: i don't think a compression tech that advanced exists [14:08] not on the host, no [14:08] ah, good [14:08] nyRednek: how much data, which kind of data? [14:08] and how much space available [14:09] adrien: we're looking at about 40 gigs of mp3z, my biggest hd otherwise is 10 gig [14:09] you can also do it in several passes [14:09] create a 10GB partition at the (or beginning), copy data to it, shrink the other partition, expand the new one, repeat [14:09] and rinse [14:09] rince* [14:09] BlackGoat: I've used fglrx recently, but not with an AGP GPU. Not in at least a year, in fact. [14:09] nyRednek: yeah, won't compress at all [14:10] well, iterate then [14:10] BlackGoat: which card? [14:10] BlackGoat: My guess is that it will be like any other attempt at using fglrx: hit or miss :-) [14:10] I hate stickers [14:10] adrien: Radeon 3850 AGP, being used to breathe new life into a Celeron e1500 box using a Geforce 6800 with a bad vertex shader pipe. [14:11] missyrissy (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [14:11] adrien: i'm thinking, split the hd with parted, make an ext3 or xfs second partiton, copy over, make first partition ext3, copy back, use parted to expand the ext3 to fill hd [14:11] nyRednek: yeah, that's what I was saying, will take some time but should work fine [14:12] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*net.pbthawe.eu expired. [14:12] and how much space free on the disk itself? [14:12] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*net.pbthawe.eu' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:12] BlackGoat: well, you _want_ 3D? [14:12] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@c-98-212-175-103.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:12] adrien: Um, ideally, yeah. :P [14:12] slow process, but it might be the most effective [14:12] yo ho ho and a bottle of tums [14:12] adrien: I don't care about desktop compositing, I just want it to run Amnesia: the Dark Descent, Doom 3, ioQuake3, UT2004, xscreensaver, &c. [14:13] BlackGoat: I'd be very surprised if any of the native apps had serious issues. [14:13] BlackGoat: games in wine might be more problematic. [14:13] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [14:14] adamk: That's one thing I wondered about, though I do have a Windows box I keep around as a contingency for such... [14:14] BlackGoat: well, try, there's a slackbuild available on sbo, your card is quite recent and should be supported [14:14] fglrx was able to play ut2004 and doom3 well enough on an AGP radeon x1650 [14:14] adrien: Thanks. :) [14:14] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:14] Yeah, his GPU is definitely still supported by the latest fglrx. [14:14] I doubt they special-case-break agp card and I've used fglrx on a 3xxx (can't remember exactly) [14:15] I know the open source drivers had issues with AGP HD cards, but I'm not aware of fglrx having any. [14:15] I remember using fglrx with variable result sin Doom 3 on a 9800 Pro. It was fine. [14:15] here it should be alright =) [14:17] Groovy. [14:17] adrien: 29G used...123G available [14:18] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:18] nyRednek: well, you can probably do it in four passes :P [14:18] So does Slack64 come with a 32-bit userland? Or how does that work? Attempts to install the Penumbra Collection were met with infuriating snags the last the I tried. [14:18] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) joined ##slackware. [14:18] nyRednek: you said 40GB of mp3 files, what about the 83 other GB? [14:18] BlackGoat: You need to install the multilib stuff from AlienBob. [14:18] BlackGoat: google: "slackware multilib alien" [14:19] Yeah, what he said. [14:19] before fglrx btw [14:19] adrien: i misunderestimated the size of mp3s [14:19] not sure what fglrx does wrt 32bit [14:19] nyRednek: ok [14:19] adrien: more like 20G [14:20] Last time I build the fglrx Slack packages from the run file on the AMD website, the resulting package didn't include the 32-bit libraries though the system was multilib at that point. [14:20] Anyone know if the packages on SBo will include the 32-bit libraries on a 64-bit multilib system? [14:20] adamk: "Bob" bless you for that tidbit of information. [14:20] well, would be better if you could borrow an external disk but progressively growing the partition should do it [14:20] this is a 160G hd...and the fat partition is only filled with 29g of data...should be able to do this in one pass of copyover, with some parted black magic [14:21] adamk: I know nvidia asks what you want to do, except maybe in recent versions [14:21] BlackGoat: when will you be doing that? [14:21] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.2.107.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:21] I must actually do slackware64+multilib+fglrx+wine on a friend's computer this week [14:21] adrien: What, the great multilib installfest and beer opening ceremony? Probably this weekend, or the next. [14:21] the question arises...what to do with the 10G hd? [14:21] adrien: Do you want me to send flowers? That's just gruesome. :-\ [14:21] ok, I'll see if I can do it before :P [14:22] swap and /opt? [14:22] BlackGoat: send beer instead ;-) [14:22] nyRednek: nothing? :P [14:22] Roin (~florian@p5B2BDAF6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:22] adrien: Man after my own heart. [14:22] adrien: it's against my nature to have an unused hd [14:23] nyRednek: problem is that it's probably getting quite old [14:23] 98? [14:23] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:24] nyRednek: Slack7, for old time's sake? [14:24] adrien: would an obscene amount of swap do away with the machine grinding to a halt? just crawling along? [14:24] BlackGoat: i got a copy of slack 8 hanging around [14:24] nyRednek: At that point I'd expect the slow old hard drive to be a performance bottleneck... [14:25] nyRednek: Actually found a copy of Slackware 3 at a used bookstore last year, but passed on it... [14:25] BlackGoat: the thing is a performance bottleneck, slow hd or not [14:25] would be really slow [14:25] BlackGoat: s/thing/computer [14:25] What should I do with an achingly loud Athlon 1200 system a friend gave me? [14:25] change the fan? museum? [14:25] bla send it to me...that's faster than i got [14:26] such machines are free but suck up electricity [14:26] nyRednek: college and universities dumping hardware: great [14:26] BlackGoat: ^^ [14:27] adrien: this machine is a pII, you should know my hardware by now [14:27] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [14:27] nyRednek: If you want the mobo/CPU/RAM I'll send it, though the 'board is just a little dodgy... [14:27] nyRednek: Wait, Pentium II? o_O [14:27] BlackGoat: yeah, pII, 400mhz [14:27] nyRednek: too much for my poor little brain [14:27] (and my empty stomach) [14:27] Gotta say, putting Ubuntu 10.04 onto the thing was probably a little "ambitious" on my part. [14:27] i could really use a tiger direct shopping spree [14:28] nyRednek: I reckon you could. It'd be on par with that guy who posted about upgrading from a 50 MHz 486 to an Athlon64... and his Slackware install took to it without a single complaint or issue. [14:29] BlackGoat: i got a box full of laptop parts that i haven't been able to assemble into a useable system...two core2 machines that are essentially unuseable [14:29] reminds me that I thought about building PC for money at some point [14:29] samfisher (~unaffilia@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [14:29] can make it definitely cheaper and more balanced than OEMs [14:29] really? [14:30] nyRednek: Sell the bits on a forum. Even an Atom-based all-in-one motherboard would trounce that Pentium II. [14:30] BlackGoat: true [14:30] companies like dell get huge discounts for volume - you do not :> [14:30] Hi, I have a wireless router and I'd like to see who tries to connect to it. I put a MAC whitelist but i believe that's not enough [14:30] adnoyte (~chatzilla@117.206.21.157) joined ##slackware. [14:30] samfisher: not enough info [14:30] read your wireless router's manual [14:31] samfisher, try with kismet [14:31] slack is like my first sex [14:31] its hard [14:31] thrice`: and have even bigger margins [14:31] but i like it [14:32] adnoyte: If your first sex was anything like my first sex, I'm sorry to hear that. :P [14:32] lol [14:32] adrien, I guess it'd be a wash in comparison [14:33] thrice`: chose any dell config, I'll tell you how much I can build it or an equivalent for [14:34] i'm aware, and can probably get a price from the same end-user vendors that you would look up [14:34] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [14:35] have to go . i have some configuratiion trouble [14:35] adnoyte (~chatzilla@117.206.21.157) left irc: Quit: oo [14:36] anyone want a Celeron D 347 for free? :P [14:36] 3.06GHz socket 775 [14:38] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:41] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:41] nyRednek may be interested in that Celeron D... [14:41] Or, hell, I might be, depending on shipping cost. [14:41] tsuyoi (panda@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) joined ##slackware. [14:41] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*net.pbthawe.eu' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:41] tsuyoi kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Congrats, c1az, asshattery just made your ban longer. [14:42] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [14:46] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@unaffiliated/akmal expired. [14:46] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@unaffiliated/akmal' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:46] im sure it couldnt be more than a few bucks to ship and box :P [14:47] texas, right? :P [14:47] artvdroid (~androirc@118.sub-97-63-114.myvzw.com) left irc: Quit: Bye [14:47] artvdroid (~androirc@118.sub-97-63-114.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [14:48] FrankD: Yeah, let's do this. Email freontrip 'blorp' gmail.com for coordinating purposes (make appropriate substitution in place of 'blorp') [14:48] adrien: What gave it away? :P [14:49] e-mail addresses and such are best served via pm (/query) or notice (/notice) [14:49] Action: adrien whistles [14:49] Then they won't be in a public log. [14:49] hahaha [14:50] or like this: serbagevc 'oybec' tznvy.pbz [14:50] i keep forgetting this chan is logged [14:50] I just figure that all channels are logged by someone. [14:50] Ack. Understood. [14:50] LifeDJ (~LifeDJ@193.239.129.220) joined ##slackware. [14:51] shyko (~francisco@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [14:51] haha [14:51] I auto-log channels I'm in, I figure others do the same. [14:53] shyko (~francisco@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:54] shyko (~francisco@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [14:54] LifeDJ (~LifeDJ@193.239.129.220) left irc: Client Quit [14:54] thumbs (1000@unaffiliated/thumbs) joined ##slackware. [14:54] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@63.238.104.170) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [14:54] linus is now american [14:55] Action: adrien wonders what that changes [14:55] MReimer (chatzilla@p4FD4A680.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware. [14:55] adrien [14:56] probably tax status, voting pattern, length of line at airport immigration, among other things [14:56] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [14:56] BlackGoat (~freontrip@p147x254.tceq.state.tx.us) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:56] if you can come up with 3 more changes i'll give you a cookie. [14:56] jeev [14:57] yeah, I know he mentionned voting but I didn't pay attention to that [14:57] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:57] ADRIEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNN [14:57] ugh, shut up [14:57] hmmm, tax status, voting pattern and length of line at airport immigration _in_ _Finland_ ? :P [14:58] rafu (~rafu@114-238-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) joined ##slackware. [14:58] pupit (p@unaffiliated/pupit) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [14:58] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [14:59] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:04] adrien, you gonna take that from thrice`? [15:06] samfisher (~unaffilia@unaffiliated/samfisher) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:06] samfisher (~unaffilia@193.239.140.132) joined ##slackware. [15:06] samfisher (~unaffilia@193.239.140.132) left irc: Changing host [15:06] samfisher (~unaffilia@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. 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[15:22] always thought you were much older :P [15:23] lol [15:23] he doesn't drink enough to be older :) [15:23] we need to fix that :p [15:24] ^_^v [15:25] asarch (~asarch@189.188.153.44) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:26] Skedar (~NOIR@189-39-148-185.gru.flash.tv.br) joined ##slackware. [15:27] shyko (~francisco@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: gone! [15:28] tomaw (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) left irc: Quit: Quitting [15:29] kwabbles (~kwabbles@h-67-101-178-243.lsanca54.static.covad.net) left irc: Quit: kwabbles has no reason [15:29] Sk3daR (NOIR@189-39-144-231.gru.flash.tv.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:30] /ws/ws 24 [15:30] ~_~ ups [15:30] Sk3daR (~NOIR@189-39-148-185.gru.flash.tv.br) joined ##slackware. [15:31] kickback (~kickback@122.176.199.27) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:31] thrice acts like a 12 year old, he's really 7. mature for his age [15:31] sinuhe (sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) left ##slackware. 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[15:36] thanks jeev :> [15:36] hiptobecubic, 25 or so [15:37] artvdroid (~androirc@118.sub-97-63-114.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:38] crap, wrong channel [15:38] good thing though since i found a way :P [15:39] Time is 12:35pm, computer has been up for 2w 5d 4h 46m 39s [15:39] whoa [15:39] windows 7, nice [15:39] need a reboot [15:42] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:45] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-71-210.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:46] |Slacker| (~cris@ct-nat1.intranet.ct.utfpr.edu.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:51] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [15:51] gabriel (~gabriel@nat-cc-inf.campus.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. [15:54] :) [15:56] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [15:57] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [15:57] Sk3daR (~NOIR@189-39-148-185.gru.flash.tv.br) left irc: Quit: CyberScript - agora com 10 vitaminas e minerais (www.cyberscript.org) [16:02] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-141-84.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Connection reset by beer [16:06] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:11] virtualbox, clipboard actions don't work, what can be the reason? [16:11] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [16:11] "actions"? [16:12] how to mount something which name contains two parts like this "First (X)" trying to mount remote samba share [16:12] ctrl+c/ctrl+v probably [16:12] bitlord: quote it or escape it [16:12] use quotes [16:12] quote, like you just did... :P [16:12] omani (~omani@e180166084.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:13] tnx adaptr, it works ;) [16:14] hi, i have a problem with the installation of slackware 13.1 as a VM running under qemu (kvm). i can not finish the installation because of lilo. it says "Vesa bios extension needed for display of 256 colors". i run qemu with the "-vga std" option, but nothing changes. [16:14] but a lesson is in order... use better share names :P [16:14] can someone help me out [16:14] I'm considering moving my /home partition to an NFS share, anyone had issues with that? User IDs would all match up, NFS host has RAID-1 array where-as the workstation doesn't [16:14] adrien, yes, copy/paste [16:14] hackeron (~hackeron@109-170-137-116.xdsl.murphx.net) joined ##slackware. [16:15] adrien, and also have no sound driver on guest, comes sound driver in virtualbox tools? [16:16] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-66-79.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:20] vinisterx (~ryan@74-129-201-82.dhcp.insightbb.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:21] vinisterx (~ryan@74-129-201-82.dhcp.insightbb.com) joined ##slackware. [16:22] vdv: you can have passthrough sound with vbox if you have the right driver. it emulates very standard ac97 audio [16:22] i.e. any modern OS will support it ootb [16:22] veritos (~veritos@207.155.204.151.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [16:23] omani: strange, I have installed several versions of Slackware recently in qemu-kvm without issues [16:23] Using "-vga std" as well as "-vga vmware" [16:23] adaptr, in guest audio settings: ALSA-Audio-Driver, ICH AC97 [16:23] alienBOB, did u use the -vga std option for VBE support? [16:23] RaNdY (randy@shellium/member/randy) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:23] vdv: is that a question ? [16:23] adaptr, guest os win7 [16:24] RaNdY (randy@hurf.minds.durf.alike.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [16:24] adaptr, and driver didn't detected [16:24] omani: try "-vga vmware" and see if that works [16:24] ok hol'on [16:24] adaptr, driver didn't installed, sound card didn't recognized [16:25] vdv: windows 7 will certainly recognize an intel ICH ac97 sound card [16:25] adaptr, and when not? [16:25] but why don't you switch to soundblaster 16 and see if that works [16:25] adaptr: no [16:25] no ? [16:25] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422611.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:26] During install, Windows7 will not be able to install a driver for the ac97 [16:26] However if you run Windows update afterwards, the ac97 driver will be available for installation! [16:26] okay then [16:26] As an "optional update" [16:26] it thinks it's too old! muahahaha [16:26] The sb16 is not supported either [16:26] Only choice is ac97 if your Windows7 guest is to make noise [16:27] arfon (~arfon@66.87.0.22) joined ##slackware. [16:27] howdy [16:27] Yes, nobody cared to consider that these old soundcards would ever be used in a Windows7 computer [16:27] alienBOB, so have to make windows update? [16:27] vdv yes [16:27] Action: alienBOB your resident Windows guru [16:28] hehe [16:28] alienBOB, still the same problem [16:28] -vga vmware doenst work [16:28] omani: then you may have selected a weird display resolution/colourdepth for lilo.conf [16:28] and now I have no other choice [16:28] Tell lilo to use vga=normal [16:29] alienBOB, I tried a higher resolution but then descided to take the normal vga mode [16:29] so at least in normal vga, it should work [16:29] but it still misses the vbe support [16:29] Yes, strange, but I have no lilo issues here with Slackware 13.1 in a qemu vm [16:29] So the problem is yours only, somehow [16:30] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:30] hmm [16:31] qemu is just emulating [16:31] so it doesnt matter which hardware my host got [16:31] what did i do wrong? [16:31] ! [16:31] Indeed [16:31] :S [16:31] tried to make my winxp vmware image in virtualbox work, but failed [16:31] in activation stage [16:31] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [16:32] i just dont understand this [16:35] which windows program do you need to use with virtualbox? just curious [16:36] dvdshrink [16:36] ganeshix (~ele@rrcs-184-74-2-215.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:37] ok [16:37] eh? [16:38] vinisterx (~ryan@74-129-201-82.dhcp.insightbb.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:39] vinisterx (~ryan@74-129-201-82.dhcp.insightbb.com) joined ##slackware. [16:39] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:40] veritos (veritos@207.155.204.151.ptr.us.xo.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:42] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*net.pbthawe.eu expired. [16:42] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*net.pbthawe.eu' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:42] jhell_ (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. 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[17:58] it's probably still sitting in the bot [17:58] Indeed [17:59] joining the channel triggers the bot [17:59] yeah, but I meant, in freenode, I keep seeing him banned, unbanned, banned again, but doesn't matter much [17:59] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [17:59] omani (~omani@e180166084.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:59] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-141-84.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:59] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:59] actually i think i might have hotkey'd something that has it not accepting mouse clicks, any ideas? [18:00] mancha: right-click? [18:00] something really, really, really annoying is how typing in the seamonkey address bar prevents focus-follows-mouse from working [18:00] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [18:02] woah, it just came back to life [18:02] my desktop flashed and firefox is alive again (also, the flash was in a different workspace) [18:02] should copy/paste of files and folders in virtualbox work? do only text actions work? [18:02] vdv: I usually use a shared folder, drag-and-drop might work, don't know [18:03] well, this is a 3.6.9 peculiarity, never had it happen before. [18:03] adrien, i thought that clipboard support is for files too [18:03] adrien, drag and drop doesn't work [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422611.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:04] bah, I can't remember, haven't used vbox in a long time [18:04] vdv, virtualbox support simple file sharing, on widnows guests works easy and quick, newer tried it on linux guests [18:04] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:04] mancha: actually, it's a recurrent problem with mozilla programs: in particular, they reimplement part of what window managers are supposed to do [18:04] of course, there are some conflicts [18:05] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422611.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:06] vdv, if you don't need much copy&paste actions, maybe usb flash driver can help, but only if you using non-free virtualbox [18:07] bitlord, no, i'd better use shared folders [18:08] there are many options :D, you can run sshd too, and do it with scp [18:09] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:10] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:11] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.95.243.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [18:11] ah yes, i once knew about fips, totally had forgotten. [18:12] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [18:13] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [18:13] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. 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[19:43] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@unaffiliated/akmal' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:43] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [19:44] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:44] greetings and salutations [19:45] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:47] AlexElliott__ (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust66.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:47] gabriel (1000@190.162.34.84) joined ##slackware. [19:48] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:49] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:50] AlexElliott_ (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust66.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:50] What is good for a USB os that is just CLI only? [19:52] USB os? define that [19:53] Bugz__ (~Bugz_@adsl-75-42-68-163.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:53] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [19:53] Bugz_ (~Bugz_@adsl-75-42-68-163.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:54] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:54] Install a linux os on USB drive. [19:55] so you're asking for a live linux distro that can run off usb? [19:56] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.2, revision: 4740, sources date: 20100627, built on: 2010-08-08 18:29:00 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [19:56] tiny core [19:56] And is CLI only. [19:56] john_dee (~id@95-29-9-204.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [19:56] you probably could get a wide range of suggestions from #linux folks [19:56] personally, i'd pick opensuse for that purpose [19:57] ananke: yes. [19:57] Just found http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ [19:57] crux [19:57] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-156-95.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:57] vfw: try tinycore [19:57] vfw: there are tons of them. in fact, a lot of major distros put out live versions for usb. [19:57] stay away from DSL, its not been supported for over 2 years [20:00] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com ) [20:02] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.237.105) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:05] troy (~troy@dsl-69-172-104-22.acanac.net) joined ##slackware. [20:11] thelgor (~thelgor@ip68-98-132-179.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:12] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.237.105) joined ##slackware. [20:13] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:13] koolniczka (~nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:14] ananke: KaMii This is what I was looking for: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/tag/slax/ [20:14] if that's what you were looking for, why didn't you say so? :) [20:14] troy (~troy@dsl-69-172-104-22.acanac.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:15] thelgor (~thelgor@ip68-98-132-179.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:15] trolls [20:17] troy (~troy@dsl-69-172-104-22.acanac.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] KaMii: Was that for me? [20:17] adobe won't patch their "critical" vulnerability until oct 4 - should we be surprised? [20:18] (in adobe reader, that is) [20:18] ananke: I just did! :) [20:18] in bigger news, people still use adobe reader [20:18] lol thrice` [20:18] adobe news pfffft [20:19] thrice`: They do???? [20:19] lots of people still use adobe reader, i would say high 90s for windows users. [20:19] Oh, yes, and there are windows users... [20:19] with the 10% or less divided between things like foxit and so forth [20:20] also, people who require full pdf functionality on linux use it too. [20:20] what can [20:20] er [20:20] what can't linux apps do, out of curiosity? [20:20] for example, no alternative to adobe reader will do comments (not evince, not xpdf, etc) [20:21] comments? [20:21] half of the time filling out pdf forms on linux results in crappy output [20:21] nachox (~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:21] yes, you can embed balloon comments on pdf (like comments in Word docs) say when editing a manuscript [20:21] Oh, interactive PDF forms... Well, not sure about all that. [20:22] forms is another place that acrobat alternatives lag [20:22] I can draw lines and add comments in okular :/ [20:22] troy (~troy@dsl-69-172-104-22.acanac.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:23] LifeForce4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) joined ##slackware. [20:24] can okular read comments made from adobe users? [20:24] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:24] and can adobe users read comments made on okular? [20:25] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:25] no clue [20:26] yes okular seems to do comments, nice. [20:26] then again, I guess i've never had to add a comment to a PDF file in my life time [20:27] like reader, it shows a little page icon on the text and if you hover it does a popup with the comment. [20:27] fancy huh? [20:28] evince, at least 2.30.3 doesn't. 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[21:01] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-246-71.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:01] PELO (PELO@189.28.196.96) left ##slackware. [21:02] Kyle__ (~kschmitt@173-165-60-19-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] Anyone know how to configure blackbox to run an script/program on startup? [21:05] apot (abg3x@unaffiliated/apot) left ##slackware. [21:09] ashe (~ashe@125.166.172.114) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:10] Kyle__: been a long time since I used it but I don't recall it having the feature then, anyway - if all else fails, just put the script/program call in your .xinitrc [21:14] ashe (~ashe@125.166.165.239) joined ##slackware. [21:20] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [21:22] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [21:22] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:39] Edogaa: bummer [21:39] or I can but its been on for hours with 0 seeds 0 peers stalled [21:39] I am not talking about dialup internet [21:40] its pots goes to something like voip over broadband [21:40] dissociative: well.............right up there you said "calls through internet" and "dialup modem"..... [21:41] Edogaa: perhaps you could get it with FTP, or HTTP, or wget, or rsync.... [21:43] Edogaa: try here: http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.1-iso/ [21:43] (you'd want to click on the 4.1G file size one...) [21:44] dissociative (~alejandro@adsl190-28-148-123.epm.net.co) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:45] There we go [21:45] :| Now to wait hours for it to finish! [21:45] So, why is the torrent mostly dead? does everyone just use the mirrors [21:45] dunno [21:45] torrent is generally well seeded [21:45] Or amd64 has never been popular? [21:46] perhaps it's your torrent client, or firewall issue [21:46] not sure why you'd be getting an error [21:46] not an error [21:46] Action: danc3 fires up 'transmission' to check it out [21:46] just 0 seeds and peers after waiting a couple hours and it stalled after "forcing start" [21:46] the tracker was having some issues, IIRC [21:47] Ah [21:47] D: [21:47] yeah, the torrent is not working for me either. [21:47] I'm thinking of just getting GNOME and Enlightenment 17 instead of going with what I normally go with (KDE) because I'm tired of the glossy windows feel lol... D: [21:48] screw that. Go with XFCE, comes with Slack [21:48] Or maybe XFCE instead of GNOME :/ I haven't quite decided [21:48] xfce rulz [21:49] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [21:49] dissociative (~alejandro@adsl190-28-148-123.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [21:49] xfce++ [21:49] do dialup modems work as audio devices with alsa? [21:50] dissociative: huh? [21:51] huh what [21:51] Hell out of the box enlightenment is all flash no function. [21:53] FrankD| (~null@129.42.208.179) joined ##slackware. [21:53] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488F8E6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:54] goj|afk (~goj@p5488F760.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] try DWM [21:56] if you want all function, no flash, and no config files. :P [21:57] goj (~goj@p5488F4C3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:57] Nick change: goj|afk -> goj [21:57] and to program to modify things [21:57] :| [21:58] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488F8E6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:58] which flash [21:58] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:59] dissociative: huh? [21:59] flash as in flashy not as in player [21:59] I must be getting stupid of not using slackware [22:00] yes, I think that may be true [22:01] anyone here do ruby on rails development? [22:07] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:10] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:11] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:11] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [22:18] l00t- (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.51.77) joined ##slackware. [22:19] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.0.96.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:22] l00t (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.102.211) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [22:23] Prefect_ (Prefect@CPE0050ba42fad2-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:26] Prefect_ (Prefect@CPE0050ba42fad2-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [22:27] Alright folks and I just got back from working with the poll.s [22:28] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [22:30] i-i3id3r (~i-i3id3r_@unaffiliated/tsar) joined ##slackware. [22:30] i-i3id3r (~i-i3id3r_@unaffiliated/tsar) left irc: Client Quit [22:33] l00t- (~i-i3id3r_@189.105.51.77) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:35] missyrissy, stripper? [22:35] or prostitute? [22:36] hehe [22:36] Neither. [22:36] I mean today is the election day. [22:37] im a bit of a wise ass.. or just an ass, depending on who you ask, sorry :) [22:37] wasn't an election day here [22:38] danc3, what state are you in? [22:38] florida [22:38] It's the primary in NY. [22:38] we had some primaries about three weeks ago [22:39] Oh. [22:39] Not us. [22:39] We're the last state to do everything. [22:39] We just received the electronic voting machines. [22:39] heh [22:40] Anyway I hope I gets elected for November. [22:40] It would be an amazing experience. 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[22:55] Action: danc3 is smelling troll [22:55] you say that often danc3 [22:56] or it seems so :) [22:56] not really, but when I do, I'm nearly always correct... [22:57] and you notice that 'missyrissy' has gone silent...? [22:57] I wasn't trying to give you crap, and it's probably just my timing, but I just meant that it seems when I have to look at the channel I see you saying something like that :) [22:58] I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer Miller High Life (The Champagne of Beers) [22:58] briareus: heh, no problem [22:58] but it seems some of the distro adherents like to drive-by other distro channels and talk crap. [22:58] john_dee (~id@95-29-9-204.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [22:58] [22:59] missyrissy: you still around? [22:59] danc3, what? I never said I am running for anything? [22:59] I was afk showering. [22:59] ummmm [23:00] What are you guys talking about? [23:00] Anyway I hope I gets elected for November. [23:00] do you remember saying that? [23:00] Anyway I hope I gets elected for November. [23:00] SELECTED, not elected. Wow. [23:00] no, you said what I quoted [23:00] that's a cut and paste [23:00] thelgor (~thelgor@ip68-98-132-179.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] "selected" for what? [23:01] Re-read it. It's a typo. [23:01] thelgor (~thelgor@ip68-98-132-179.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:01] null-pointer (~martinus@180.211.95.230) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:01] yeah I can see that, but there's no way of knowing that's a typo [23:01] Well grammar error. [23:02] it changes the meaning a little, don'tcha think? [23:02] except that "i gets" doesnt really work in english [23:02] maco: yes, but I don't know the English level of the poster [23:02] .... [23:02] I can only read what is written [23:02] -_- [23:03] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-180-22.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:03] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [23:03] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [23:03] so what are you hoping to get "selected" for in November...? [23:03] Today is the primary election in NY, November is the general election. [23:03] I will be doing the same job or similar job at least. [23:03] You can google it. :) [23:03] what job is that? [23:03] I work with the polls. [23:04] you mean you are a volunteer at the *POLLING* place? [23:04] I am not a volunteer, it's paid. [23:04] ok [23:04] but again you are unclear [23:04] Action: missyrissy shrugs. [23:04] I'm trying to be as clear as I can be. [23:04] you could mean that you are a "polling" worker harassing folks on the phone for their voting preference [23:05] No. [23:05] that's what "polls" means [23:05] yes [23:05] john_dee (~id@95-29-9-204.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [23:05] If you insist, I basically work with the electronic voting machines. [23:05] the term you meant to use is "polling place" [23:05] big difference [23:05] perhaps you should brush up on your English prior to November...? [23:05] danc3, just shut up. [23:05] You're being annoying. [23:06] no, trying to show you that accuracy counts. Especially in a polling place. [23:06] don't be vague and unclear [23:06] If you don't understand me, that's not my problem, especially since other people knew that "i gets" was a typo. [23:06] what other people knew that? [23:06] Vagueness has a place in elections. Especially in Florida. [23:07] rob0: hehe [23:07] except that "i gets" doesnt really work in english [23:07] that was after the fact [23:07] missyrissy: do you use Slackware? [23:07] I'm actually very happy that Peter Cipriano won, 20 years old and the youngest politician I know. [23:07] danc3, sure do. [23:08] good [23:08] what does a 20 year old know about politics? What office did he win? [23:08] maco (maco@ubuntu/member/maco) left ##slackware ("okiluvyabuhbye!"). [23:08] Assembly. And danc3, if you keep being irritating, I'll just put you on ignore. [23:09] irritating? what am I doing to irritate you? [23:09] All you are doing is complaining that you don't know what polling means in my context, so you attack my English level. [23:10] well, no, that isn't really true [23:10] i guess some things never change [23:10] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [23:10] but whatever [23:12] I guess some things never change. [23:12] like what? [23:14] missyrissy: what things never change? [23:15] like..... the DNA of a dodo bird, or something? [23:15] or the fact that non-Slackware-using trolls will continue to drop by ##slackware and have a go? [23:16] newslacker (~root@72-161-74-77.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] or the fact that non-Slackware-using trolls will continue to drop by ##slackware and have a go? [23:17] oh good! you can cut-n-paste something! Well done! [23:17] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-14.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:18] or did you mean that you *ARE* a non-Slackware-using troll....? Again you are being vague and unclear. [23:18] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:19] vhann (~vhann@modemcable112.221-81-70.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:20] Hi, is it really important to have a /usr/lib64 directory (on a 64 bits system of course)? [23:20] vhann: if you're using 64 bit slackware, then yes [23:20] missyrissy: oh, wait! I think I get it! You were probably trying to insinuate (look that one up) that *I* was a non-Slackware-using troll... right? Well I got news for ya, Missy. I've been using Slack (and in this IRC channel) longer than you've been out of diapers.... Better go try trolling somewhere else.... [23:20] Howdy. [23:20] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:20] vhann, very strange question. Yes, /usr/lib64 is a part of Slackware64. [23:21] Hi Alan_Hicks. [23:22] rob0: ananke: Well, let's suppose I wanted to upgrade from 13.0 to 13.1, recompiling everything from source, is there any obvious problem in having everything in /usr/lib rather than /usr/lib + /usr/lib64 ? [23:22] uhh [23:22] vhann: wow. [23:22] other than upgrades would be a nightmare [23:22] vhann, don't delete it; you are doing it wrong. [23:22] Action: Dominian really sees no point in doing that vhann [23:22] hey risa, how'd it go today [23:23] vhann: is /usr/lib64 really that hard to grasp? [23:23] vhann: what exactly are you trying to accomplish by going through that insanse exercise? [23:23] nachox (~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:23] Skywise, great! I'm actually surprised at the party split. There were also no conservative registered folks in my station. Other than that, good to be home, I am trying to figure out what widget to place on my desktop. :) [23:23] alot of machine has issue, were yours ok? [23:24] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.0.96.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Read error: No route to host [23:24] There were a lot of considerations that went into /usr/lib64 vs. /usr/lib, but if you're compiling everything from source, you're not really running Slackware64. [23:24] And therefore there's no relevant answer for you. [23:24] ananke: I want to see if I can notice any performance gain. I'm recompiling with '-march=native -mtune=native'. But anyway, I just want to know why there is a separate directory structure for 64 bits libs (other than for backwards compatibility)? [23:24] Skywise, yes, I was very happy to have a knowledgeable partner. The closing was hard because NY was the last to receive it so a lot of people didn't know what to do. [23:24] vhann, take a look at http://www.answerspice.com/c118/1768868/fedora-usrlib-vs-usrlib64 - it's Fedora's but you can see the difference. [23:25] vhann: Because they are 64 bit libs. [23:25] missyrissy: Thanks, will look that up [23:25] vhann: sorry, i don't subscribe to that line of thinking. good luck :) [23:25] missyrissy, yeah bloomberg said the whole election was screwed up [23:26] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [23:26] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:26] Skywise, I wouldn't be surprised if they called us back in to do it again. It was a big waste of money. People not receiving mails, etc. Lots of people didn't show up for work because they didn't get the notice. [23:26] Action: XGizzmo inserts silly gentoo joke. [23:26] XGizzmo, heh there is something for that actually... [23:26] XGizzmo, found it! http://funroll-loops.info/ [23:26] when Bloomberg says that, it means that conservatives/Republicans have won, and he's trying to lay the groundwork for a claim that it was rigged... [23:27] no [23:27] haha [23:27] yep [23:27] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-13-243.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:27] did you hear any thing about the election at all [23:27] no [23:27] but I know what Bloomberg is [23:27] lol [23:27] well you don't know what you're talking about [23:27] Nick change: missyrissy -> rhisa [23:27] uh huh... watch and see if I'm right [23:27] oooh politics! [23:27] there were many issue at polling stations all over [23:28] I bet [23:28] asarch (~asarch@187.132.140.62) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:28] Skywise is correct. My partner is the opposite party of mine as is the rest of the polling stations to ensure safety and fairness. There were no rigging as far as I am concerned, for my district area. [23:29] missyrissy: Actually, they're only talking about "should go in /usr/lib64". I understand it is better to separate libs (for conformity with the standards, etc.), but I can't see how it could break my system (ld is supposed to have both in its search path anyway)? [23:29] so what was "screwed up", in Bloomberg's view? [23:29] We all did what we were trained to do and many of the things we were supposed to receive, did not arrive (for example, counts for conservative papers). [23:29] places not opening on time [23:29] machines being broken or inoperable [23:29] Yeah our place was one of the places that didn't open up. [23:29] inexusable human errors [23:29] it wasn't a smooth process like it was supposed to be [23:29] Also some machines had votes on them already. [23:29] right [23:30] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:30] very sloppy [23:30] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [23:30] lol, yeah, Dimocrat votes I'm sure [23:30] im trying to install slackware64-current via PXE/NFS, when I do modprobe pcnet32 it returns 'Invalid module format'. should I unpack it first to load? [23:30] thats not really the issue [23:30] danc3, actually no. These errors are excusable because the operation is so difficult to implement. Also the votes are anonymous. [23:30] of course not [23:30] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [23:31] Especially since electronic machines are new to NY. [23:31] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:31] rhisa: what's difficult about being on time to open a polling place, and to test the machines ahead of time? [23:31] seriously what 's hard about that? [23:31] logistics [23:31] Actually there is an entire process. [23:31] You have to set up the machines, not just test it. [23:31] it's not logistics [23:31] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:31] And ensure that everything matches. [23:31] you still crying about the two party system? [23:31] Yes it is. [23:31] ok, so why weren't they set up yesterday, and tested? [23:31] iplcmd, who is crying about the 2 party system? [23:32] danc3, because people were being trained and machines were being moved in and budgets were being set for this, for starters. [23:32] rhisa: yes, I understand there is a process. It includes allowing enough lead time to set up machines and test them. [23:32] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [23:32] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [23:32] danc3: You expect government to do something properly? [23:32] the people should have been trained months ago, and the machines moved in a week ago or more. [23:32] its the board of elections who are supposed to handle the situation [23:33] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:33] vhann (vhann@modemcable112.221-81-70.mc.videotron.ca) left ##slackware ("Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring"). [23:33] Alan_Hicks: heh, in this case... it's just the local people, yes they should be able to do that [23:33] Alan_Hicks, I say the gov't has done a great job, because if anyone has a better suggestion, you can always talk to people to get it working better. [23:33] Skywise: ok and why didn't they? [23:33] since it just happend, i'm sure no one know why yet [23:33] but people do know they didn't get their job done [23:33] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:33] it's obvious as to "why". [23:34] people failed at their jobs [23:34] they should be fired [23:34] danc3, if you think you can run the system better, you are free to run for public office. This is a free country after all. [23:34] board of elections are elected as well [23:34] Yep. Go for it. [23:34] rhisa: I'm not talking about running for office. I'm talking about the simple mechanics of setting up a polling place. [23:34] danc3: Ha! local government is no more capable or competent than State and Federal government. [23:34] Skywise, it was nice seeing you on, I must get on skype to talk to my dad. So take care! :D [23:35] Alan_Hicks: perhaps, but I still like to think they are, sometimes! [23:35] nite [23:35] the real problem is that people keep getting sold a bill of goods on the advantage of electronic voting when its really not better [23:35] ahh well.... this is what the country is becoming... tolerant of piss-poor performance and willing to accept shitty results. Sad, really. [23:36] canada has an election with 25 million voters, use paper ballots and get everything counted in hours [23:36] so this is what you get when people mortals think the can govern themselves [23:36] iplcmd, so we should elect gods? [23:36] democracy has failed [23:36] no, we should elect conservatives [23:36] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: women are much less forgiving in life, no wonder they are always so bitchy [23:36] democracy has always failed. [23:36] lol [23:37] or constitutional republic or w/e [23:37] Skywise: Germany does the same thing. This whole electronic voting machine thing is beyond stupid. [23:37] at least things will start to improve in November... we got that to look forward to. [23:38] lol [23:38] and then in two more years things will *really* start to look better [23:38] iplcmd: Yeah, the USA's constitutional republic failed when States started letting people vote for the presidential electors, and Andrew Jackson got the job. [23:38] vhann (~vhann@modemcable112.221-81-70.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:38] asarch (~asarch@187.132.140.62) joined ##slackware. [23:39] http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/liberalbear.jpg [23:39] http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/republican.jpg [23:39] you're just trolling hard tonight, eh [23:39] http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg [23:39] nah, not trolling [23:39] spreading knowledge [23:39] lol [23:40] it would have to at least be correct to be considered knowledge [23:40] danc3: You should take this to ##slackware-offtopic [23:40] but I got to go get some Tuna. good luck with the NY elections... g'night all. 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