[00:01] tanamo (n=tanamo@116.50.152.20) left irc: "Leaving" [00:02] the picture is for the mountains going down [00:02] in the same moment of the earthquake [00:02] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:02] too many damn mountains around, anyway [00:03] was a earthquake followed by a big wave [00:03] tsunami [00:03] and yes that usually happens [00:04] i am 100ft above sealevel [00:04] i can see the sea [00:04] well, i understand tsunami for waves produced in open sea [00:04] I'm at about 25 ft [00:04] but there was in a fyord [00:04] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.180.164.35) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:04] nullboy: i am thousands of kilometers away from the nearest fault line or volcano [00:04] mth-: you're talking about that land slide situation [00:04] yeah [00:05] Damn... updog [00:05] you seen the picture? [00:05] see what picture? [00:05] rworkman: g'day [00:05] spook: :) [00:05] rworkman: hows that lovely wife of yours? [00:05] of the earthquake [00:05] spook: happy Valentine's day ;-) [00:05] rworkman: uh... thanks. [00:06] my valentine is in japan till tuesday [00:06] http://picasaweb.google.com/Jorge.Atton/Sismos#5061678274413746274 [00:06] oh, damn. That sucks. [00:06] that picture nullboy [00:06] spook: well, mine is here, and she's doing just fine. :D [00:06] not for her [00:07] rworkman: its okay, she made up for it by letting me buy some things shes being objecting to for ages [00:07] XGizzmo_: meanie :P [00:07] spook: ooh. Like whips, chains, and leather? [00:07] spook, wow I could read that line 1000 ways [00:07] Old_Fogie: 999 now. [00:07] hahah true [00:07] no, i bought a bunch of stuff off thinkgeek [00:07] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) left irc: "Ik ga weg" [00:07] Nice. Even better! [00:07] jedi robe, lightsaber, annoyotron 2.0... [00:08] cough slackware store cough [00:08] Let me know how the annoyotron works. I've strongly considered getting one of those for a coworker ;-) [00:08] i <3 my geek tshirt [00:08] for her [00:08] lightsaber [ in bed ] [00:08] rworkman: i have the 1.0, its awesome [00:08] drives people NUTS [00:08] i built one of those in electronics class years ago [00:08] Yay. I'll get that with my next purchase there then. [00:08] just cuz he bought of thinkgeek still don't let him off the pervert hook :) [00:09] s/bough of /bought off [00:09] XGizzmo_: yeah thats next time. [00:09] subtox (n=subtox@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:09] see i could have bought all this stuff earlier, its just that she wouldn't have stopped complaining about it [00:10] subtox (n=subtox@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left ##slackware. [00:10] I discovered that my "Geek Inside" tee shirt has a hole in the underarm part, so I have to retire it. That means I have to go buy a replacement one :) [00:10] I'm leaning towards the "i > u" one. [00:10] get her to stitch it up? [00:10] spook: You know i have the Annoy-a-tron 2.0 and i stuck it on the second frequency noise. It was there for about a week but got ignored.. Now i've placed it on the beep. We'll see how that does. [00:10] spook: oh, I can do that. :) [00:10] agentc0re: i plan to use the cycle, and hide it in a datacenter [00:11] while the camera system is under maintenance [00:12] OT: it's posts like this that make me want to ignore any threads suggesting additions to Slackware: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=3443638#post3443638 [00:12] ON TOPIC? GET OUT OF THIS CHANNEL! :P [00:13] Oh, oops. Sorry, I forgot. [00:13] who the hell is that person [00:13] rworkman: Geez dude, well why don't you start making that cookbook eh? [00:13] :P [00:13] network manager? [00:13] loooool [00:14] salemboot are you in here? show yourself [00:14] explain your BS [00:14] LOL [00:14] theres already mysql. [00:15] ... [00:15] rworkman, respectfully here mind you. that post is a sign that Mr. V and the contribs are doing a great job. It means that they think it's ready for desktop use, and laptop use. They just want a few bells and whistles. I wouldnt take that the way you are really. I read that a positive fwiw. He's basically asking for a more user friendly laptop/wireless setup (which is something that *nix is not quite as good as Windows [00:15] yet on). [00:15] Action: agentc0re might be forced to say something nice. [00:15] i /fail again! [00:15] s/nice/not nice [00:15] damn it. [00:16] rworkman, minues the kernel stuff, not sure what he's getting at there. [00:16] That's certainly a way to put a positive spin on the post, but still... [00:17] people are idiots, they dont know WHAT they want [00:17] spook: Or better yet, What they are wanting.. [00:18] I've looked into Debian's acpi stuff, and while *some* of it would be trivial to implement, there's still the very REAL problem that's so conveniently ignored by most people: If *I* implement it, then *I* have to support it. [00:18] avoid SELINUX.. isn't that a redhat thing? [00:18] rworkman, however he *sadly* mistaken asking for the gnome stuff in there. That means then that Slackware who does _not_ ship gnome, predefines whichever gnome any 3rd party gnome dev's must use. Since many of the 3rd party gnome dev's like to stay (and do ) close to bleeding edge, it will cause them to replace a lot more stock app's. Sad, people like him (and others) just dont understand what's involved with gnome. But [00:18] sadly, they just hear "gnomes a pita" but no real explanation as to why. [00:18] Since it would be a non-upstream-project, it would be *my* baby completely. Sorry, I'm not willing to do that, for quite a few reasons that I don't care to go into now. [00:19] cause kids suck :P [00:19] rworkman, let's not forget, debian _and_ ubunut were for a long time, reducing life of laptop hard drives and have only just fixed the problem recently. [00:19] Good point there too. [00:20] debian? is still alive?... [00:20] if i was a jedi, i'd want to be of the halcyon line [00:20] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-164-35.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [00:20] I don't blame anyone asking for better wifi on linux. All of the distro's have quirks. It's not a distro thing, there's just been no "non pain in the ass way to allow users to escalate priveledges and connect to wherever without a ton of depencies and/or untested applications" made yet [00:20] I've considered (and still might do) a custom acpi-support package for us, but it would be something in my personal repo rather than in Slackware. [00:21] Lets not make Slackware even easier for the clueless. [00:21] Amen. [00:21] rworkman: yeah or at least some templates for acpi scripts [00:21] i find the stock scripts to be sufficient [00:21] acpi or net [00:21] spook: yeah, at least that. Similar to what's at http://rlworkman.net/conf/acpi/ [00:21] rworkman: :P [00:21] XGizzmo_: +1 :) [00:22] "HugeXenon" ? [00:22] wtf is a Xenon chip? [00:22] yeah WTF [00:23] that poster is full of crap [00:23] thats what she said. :P [00:23] [*] Generic x86 [00:23] rworkman, see the acpi stuff too, I personally don't see that as part of a distro. it should be done upstream. there's no reason, you can run Xorg --configure and it just work. there should be "acpi --configure" from upstream and it just work. upstream is lacking, and distro's try and make up the diff, and it equals inconsistency imo. [00:23] kanja (n=kanja@cpe-74-72-194-84.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving." [00:24] "include optimisations for other cpu families other than the selected one" [00:24] umm [00:24] HugeSparc :) [00:24] LOL hba. [00:24] adaptec.s [00:25] bare.i [00:25] HugeMESS [00:25] see where i'm going? [00:25] Old_Fogie: well, maybe. Much of that *should* be configurable though. What's missing is an *easy* and/or well-documented way for a user to do that. [00:25] HugeEeepc, that would be cool. [00:25] haha :) [00:26] "B.More utilities for Busybox, lilo, full vim, mc" <--since when was lilo not included? [00:26] busybox is in the sources too... [00:26] mc? i haz. [00:26] hba: 12.2 is all you need for an eeepc. 2.6.27.7 has the ethernet drivers for all eeepc models. which is the only reason the distro would need an eeepc kernel. [00:26] users can compile their own if they need anything more [00:26] rworkman, "tweaking" is one thing. Saying "sleep in 30 minutes" or "sleep in 15". But writing scripts to get sleep is not acceptable from upstream. [00:26] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [00:26] spook: yeah.. just kidding :P [00:26] that poster clearly doesn't have a strong understanding of slackware yet [00:26] Action: stitchman <3's mc [00:27] i bet they look back at that post in a year and cry [00:27] rworkman, that's like saying we should wright scripts for the cpu scheduler, when it should sleep, or unload :) [00:27] nah, it seems users cant compile their own.. that why someone is asking it ;) [00:27] nullboy: He's obviously used other distro's before which is why he has this opinion. [00:27] http://slackware.com/install/bootdisk.php <<< thats what we had in the past. [00:27] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [00:27] spook: a php script to install slackware? ;) [00:28] agentc0re: i think more obviously hes an idiot [00:28] If he looks back. He'll probably just give up. [00:28] lol [00:28] spook: :) [00:29] hba: look at the page. all of those boot disks are different kernels, for when you were limited to installing from floppy [00:29] Old_Fogie: exactly - that's where something like xfce4-power-manager comes into play. [00:30] hba (n=hba@189.188.159.42) left irc: "leaving" [00:31] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-164-35.net.novis.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:31] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.164.35) joined ##slackware. [00:31] rworkman, yeah that looks nice. You get my point tho, the fact that distro's have to invent ways to get people's laptops seen, and scripts generated means it's not done upstream. I just dont think that should be the responsbility for distro's to have to do. Not when they claim they want a standards base and all for acrross the various distros. [00:32] you speaking about acpi specifically? [00:32] i could agree with acpi in your context [00:32] yea [00:33] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.6.95) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:33] distro's shouldn't be "inventing" scripts, that's hardware, that's upstream. debian and ubunut is prime example of fail due to this lack from upstream. [00:33] also, all their kernel patches [00:34] they should work on doing it properly, so it gets tested and included in the kernel proper [00:34] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.0.66) joined ##slackware. [00:34] i.e; work on it upstream [00:35] how about the kernel httpd [00:35] that's a hilarious example [00:35] lol what? [00:35] i still get a kick out of that when i think about it [00:35] httpd in the kernel? [00:35] the kernel httpd [00:35] yeah [00:36] http://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/httpfs/messages/msg00027.html [00:36] i'm playing the other side now but you guys get the point [00:36] "let's do it ALLLLL in the kernel" [00:36] kmix would mean kernel mixer [00:37] hahaha [00:37] Khratos (n=Khratos@190.166.157.115) left ##slackware ("... Jesus paid it all, All to Him I owe; Sin had left a crimson stain, He washed it white as snow."). [00:37] I expect to be able to tweak a video card, not wright scripts for it. The same for acpi is my expectations. [00:37] wright a script for my lid? wth is that [00:38] dont have to wright a script to see my cpu [00:38] write? [00:38] man my lid script is leet though [00:39] people at uni like to press the powerbutton on people's laptops, mine uses festival to tell people to fuck off [00:39] Those are exactly the sorts of things that HAL *should* be handling now. [00:39] haha [00:39] yeah, maybe they should yank the keyboard code out of the kernel, we can wright scripts for that too [00:39] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10318 [00:39] is that not the most beautiful ugliness ever? [00:40] probably a root kit [00:40] Action: Old_Fogie hides :) [00:40] lol [00:40] hahaha [00:40] /no_exec tinfoil hat [00:40] nullboy: haha [00:41] 2&1> /dev/null [00:41] would that be better? [00:41] JosyGamma (n=josyr@77.246.72.85) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:41] remember i'm not going for elegance here [00:41] "good enuff for gov't work" [00:42] lol i was just saying that becuase of what Old_Fogie said. I didn't know you had that in your script :P [00:42] lol [00:42] nullboy: going for barftastic? [00:42] Action: agentc0re gets more beer [00:42] nullboy, bah, dont worry how it looks. you should see my scripts. i'm like the "comment queen" ; chatty cathy and all, and I go past the 80 line too much [00:42] i was shooting for any area between vomit on the floor and dry heave [00:43] 80 character limit exists for a reason :) [00:43] a script that does cp * /tmp would be 50 lines for me at lest [00:44] with some haiku's in there too [00:44] and of course, I'd have 3 revisions of it in there commented out [00:44] Old_Fogie: why not setup a git repo for it? [00:44] #c * /tmp <-- our rev 1 I forgot the 'p' in cp [00:44] you should have seen the comment mess i had with all my pam work [00:44] it took me a whole day just to clean out the comments after i got it workin [00:44] nullboy, yeah try and go back and read it and figure it out, and you'll still be lost, heh [00:45] spook, umm, never thought of it really [00:45] hmm [00:45] a git repo for my pamifications [00:45] that would be cool [00:45] I am diligent and filling in a changelog.txt file tho ; and a backup in a marble bound notebook on the desk. [00:46] i love to setup a crude backup system using git [00:47] Old_Fogie: Heh, you could use github :P [00:51] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [00:57] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [00:57] gm152 (n=glen@d121-132-40.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:58] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-94.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [01:02] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.204.249) joined ##slackware. [01:03] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:04] hi .. what do you guys use as a music player ? [01:04] mplayer [01:04] seriously ?!? no library/collection etc.? [01:04] mplayer [01:04] I used to use amarok .. but switched to fluxbox .. [01:04] now find amarok very heavy .. esp. amarok2 [01:05] mplayer is smart, you can tell it to play * and it cues up all those files [01:05] duryodhan, when i need library stuff i usually just use shuf/xargs [01:05] madplay is good too [01:05] edman007 good for you :P [01:05] moc and mp3blaster nice n light too for the oggs [01:05] I am not gonna do that :) [01:06] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.164.35) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:06] isn't there a nice lite app ? like pcmanfm for file browsing ? does all teh work of other utilities but half as light [01:06] sigh [01:07] other than mplayer :) [01:07] duryodhan, xmms is light [01:07] that's my gui player [01:07] you cant find lighter gui based and running at same time than xmms [01:07] even takes cli arguments [01:08] xmms doesn't have a library iirc [01:08] learn to use the shell, i provides more than enough [01:08] and its very light weight [01:08] duryodhan, that would be what a filemanager is for [01:08] it supports playlists [01:08] I think that xine-ui has one. [01:09] you can make a playlist of your whole library in whatever app you like, or in xmms [01:10] is there something as good as foobar ? [01:10] just tell your file manager to open .pls files with xmms and done. [01:10] try gmusicbrowser then [01:10] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-164-35.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [01:10] if you *must* have all your songs in a window at one time [01:11] moc ftw [01:11] Rat409, yup [01:11] Old_Fogie: gmusicbrowser looks interesting [01:11] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [01:11] duryodhan, it can use almost anything as the backend too. [01:12] duryodhan, my friend has a band and his all his music in there, gigs of it. faster than amarok with mysql we've found [01:12] hmm ... [01:12] I still think that's what a smart file manager should do anyhow, and playlists. never reallyseen the need for an app to mimic windows media player and have it all listed there [01:13] There is no good file managers for Linux. [01:13] that doesn't depend on QT [01:13] mc! [01:13] oh please :/ [01:13] krusader! [01:13] acidchild: pcmanfm is ok [01:13] duryodhan: mmm i'll check it out. [01:13] pcmanfm will mess up gtk bookmarks, its bad imho [01:13] .. is an advanced twin panel (commander style) file manager for KDE <-- [01:14] fuck KDE. [01:14] deletes all network shares [01:14] acidchild: pcmanfm is a very light filemanager ... it won't do everything .. but does all I need and is fast [01:14] it looks crap. [01:14] acidchild, oh dont be put off by the kde part..it's as fast as thunar to launch, and for my needs doing building alot, and the alt-click scripting, it's awesome. I'd buy it if they charged. It runs very fast on p3 866 [01:14] like i said, there is no good file managers. [01:15] Action: acidchild will stick to bash. [01:15] emelfm2 tuxcommander or rox-filer [01:15] rox is okey [01:16] nautilus is best for previews tho, man is it good at thumbnailing, displaying [01:16] doesn't it require alot of gnome related libarys? [01:16] sure [01:17] but, you gotta love, putting your mouse over a sound file and it previews :) [01:17] and unlike kde, it understands file change notificatin. you dont have to whack f5 to refresh like konqueror all day long. [01:17] not really, i am very privacy aware, i don't like people seeing my files if they are sitting behind me [01:17] its why i do everything in cli [01:17] acidchild, well if people are behind you, it's not very privat then is it /me puts on the foil hat :) [01:18] hide in the cellar and use nautilus then :) [01:18] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:18] ah pcmanfm fails to build [01:18] excellent. [01:19] xfe is pretty good too, takes some tweaking. [01:19] it's not as pretty as pcmanfm (which tries to look like nautilus) [01:21] People have a good V-Day? [01:21] Heh, was really ssdd. [01:22] sad? [01:22] i bet alot of people got dumped and cheated on today. [01:22] =P [01:22] acidchild: slackbuild ? [01:23] nope, just from source. [01:23] i desktop needs reinstalling at some stage in the future. [01:23] use the slackbuild [01:23] :P [01:24] nar, i'm just gonna listen to some music =] [01:24] High Contrast <3 [01:24] http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/pcmanfm/ [01:24] Liquid Drum and Bass rawkz [01:24] ^^ [01:24] its available on slackbuilds.org [01:24] Rat409: thanks, but i'm okey =) [01:24] k [01:25] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-164-35.net.novis.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:25] the whole meeting the girlfriends parents went very well. [01:25] cool [01:25] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-164-35.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [01:25] yah... [01:25] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [01:27] i'm terrible with parents. heh [01:27] meet the parents [01:27] aahhh [01:27] rofl. [01:28] "you a pot head fooker?" [01:28] Well, a ex-friend of my gf came over ssome time ago [01:28] i'll end up being just like the dad on meet the parents [01:28] and i ripped her up, what a waste of skin that bitch was. [01:28] she went to my gf parents and told them i was a drug addict. [01:28] damn it [01:28] when my gf wasn't even there, who goes over to someones house to talk to someones parents. [01:28] haha that sarah bitch is just jelous. [01:29] supposidly she told my gf, the guy shes with is so fat, her legs don't even reach the bed when she's on top [01:30] hard to take someone who dates a 40yr old guy who lives with his parents and runs a online business out of their basement. [01:30] roflrofl [01:30] she's 18 [01:31] nullboy: get any poon? [01:31] nah [01:31] ah well. [01:31] i gave up on women [01:31] your following straterra ? [01:31] xD [01:31] unless one falls from space and lands on my lap...i'm just dandy [01:32] haha. [01:32] nullboy: ah, ladyboys are more your thing eh? [01:33] i figured i might as well work at something that i have a chance of understanding...like C...or terse perl [01:33] haha. [01:34] i'll be happy with my relationship, when she gets a job. [01:34] sexing you up, and cooking you food isnt a job? [01:34] those are the perks...for her [01:34] well it is at the momemt. :) [01:35] she wakes me up everyday with a coffee and a lit cig. [01:35] its pretty cool. [01:35] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.180.164.35) joined ##slackware. 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[01:39] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [01:39] hahah [01:39] is spook and Ash who has a birthday on 3.14 ? [01:39] spook: yep [01:39] =P [01:40] no my birthday is 6.28 [01:40] 3.1.89 [01:40] =) [01:40] just trying to create drama [01:40] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.11.85) left irc: Connection reset by peer [01:40] 28.6.88 [01:40] Raphael_S (n=Raphael_@r258-pr-araraquara.ibys.com.br) left irc: "Saindo" [01:40] hehe. [01:41] Sunny's guide [01:41] to sucking cock [01:41] wtf [01:41] hahaha @ http://www.steakandbjday.com/ [01:41] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:43] "MY FIRST BLOWJOB EVER!" [01:43] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [01:43] hahaha [01:43] HAHA. [01:43] thats a good find nullboy. [01:44] Wasn't there "national sex day" or something? [01:46] http://www.alternet.org/blogs/sex/95542/northern_exposure:_national_sex_day_in_canada/ [01:47] It involved me eating steak. 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[03:54] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.7.213) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:54] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/slackware-vs-ubuntu-308544/ =-O [03:55] elemenohpee (n=raf@cpe-98-150-162-37.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [03:55] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-164-35.net.novis.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:56] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [03:59] lol can't be root on ubuntu [03:59] heheh. [03:59] it's just like windows only you can install more than 3 programs without paying extra [04:00] lol [04:00] lol, Soul_keeper, you can, you just need to passwd root first using sudoer :) [04:01] that's ok, if you set the password to 123 everything is easy [04:02] or better yet, just blank. [04:02] haha [04:02] why bother being annoyed? [04:04] plipp (n=cam@m83-188-223-171.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [04:05] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. 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[05:12] synaptics driver? for slackware? [05:13] easier just to show you than explain [05:13] thanks, dive ^^ [05:13] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-70-61-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [05:13] VertTwoFingersScroll two :) [05:14] it was a pain to get working though - the server layout lines and the order of decives is critical [05:14] *devices [05:14] btw, anyone know how to enable it in the kernel ? :D [05:14] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-72-224-255-142.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:14] (it's the only piece of hardware I've lost with my own kernel) [05:14] Camarade_Tux, you don't need to 0 the driver handles it [05:15] weird [05:15] ah maybe you need to modprobe psmouse with no options [05:15] I think that messes things up [05:16] t0f: yes, synaptics has been in slackware for some time, package xf86-input-synaptics [05:16] Action: Camarade_Tux notes he should try building psmouse :D [05:16] but anyway, today is format time so I'll tackle that issue too :) [05:16] rg3: sorry i had thought they were refering to the pkg manager for ubuntu [05:17] t0f: oh, i didn't even realize, sorry :D [05:18] phew, made it through another Valentine's day without a commitment. heh [05:18] Kaapa__ (n=Somethin@89.180.164.35) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:19] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-164-35.net.novis.pt) left irc: Success [05:20] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.164.35) joined ##slackware. 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[05:54] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.231.74.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:54] typical mkfs.ntfs use on a 940GB partition [05:54] Initializing device with zeroes: 0%^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C [05:55] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Nick collision from services. [05:55] Nick change: poona_ -> poona [05:57] cipher (n=cipher@41.252.3.70) left irc: "Leaving" [06:00] daniel_s (n=daniel_s@95.88.167.148) joined ##slackware. [06:02] cipher (n=cipher@41.252.3.70) joined ##slackware. [06:02] arny (n=arny@79.119.152.53) joined ##slackware. [06:02] hi [06:05] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) left irc: "Leaving" [06:05] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.164.35) joined ##slackware. [06:06] hey arny [06:07] good morning slackheads [06:10] ouch [06:10] g morning dtanner [06:12] ALVAN (n=uyjkgh@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [06:13] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [06:13] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@unaffiliated/asmadeus) left irc: Connection reset by peer [06:14] i'm looking for stardict dictionary for 12.2, anyone can help? [06:15] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.164.35) left irc: Operation timed out [06:17] mib_7dr6zb (i=7aa47325@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3fb15a5b51c68388) joined ##slackware. [06:19] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:19] daniel_s (n=daniel_s@95.88.167.148) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:19] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@unaffiliated/asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [06:19] arny: give my name back :P [06:20] lw0x15, uh ? :) [06:20] Nick change: arny -> arny` [06:21] lol i meant in real life name [06:21] lol [06:21] "{\ [06:22] lw0x15, $5 :P [06:22] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [06:23] i dont have any dollars:( [06:24] smeding (i=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:25] gtg, talk to you later [06:26] arny` (n=arny@79.119.152.53) left irc: "Just Married" [06:29] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:30] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-164-35.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:33] has anyone had a look at moblin? [06:33] lowkyalur (n=low@icm2-orange.orange.sk) joined ##slackware. [06:34] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.17) joined ##slackware. [06:35] spook, a tiny bit, any specific question ? [06:36] best non-qt 3-way merge tool? [06:36] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [06:36] staimeer (n=staimeer@unaffiliated/staimeer) joined ##slackware. [06:36] staimeer (n=staimeer@unaffiliated/staimeer) left ##slackware. 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[06:49] i think i'll aim for meld, thanks Camarade_Tux [06:50] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-164-35.net.novis.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:52] no way, meld requires gnome-python [06:53] eek [06:56] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:57] obnauticus_ (n=obnautic@c-24-22-20-142.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:58] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-24-22-20-142.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:58] Nick change: obnauticus_ -> obnauticus [06:59] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.180.164.35) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:00] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.4.39) joined ##slackware. [07:01] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [07:02] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. 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' Warning! ehci_hcd should always be loaded before uhci_hcd and ohci_hcd, not after' [07:24] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:25] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [07:27] t0f, I guess usb could turn wrong but that should be everything [07:27] ok, i have a 2.0 card installed [07:27] and the mb 1.1 [07:27] some ports could be recognized as 1.0 for instance [07:27] ic [07:29] atm all i use (usb) is a pata enclosure and a flat bed scanner [07:30] n0on3 (n=n0on3@81-208-83-247.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [07:30] the scanner can be 1.0 but i like the enclosure at 2.0 [07:31] there is a patch on the net to fix it, but i'm unsure where to apply it [07:32] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:36] dive (n=diverse@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:38] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-132-181.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:38] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:40] how can i make a "for filename in *; do echo $filename; done;" recursive? [07:41] for i in {1..10} ; do echo $i ; done ?? [07:42] no no wait [07:42] too early for me [07:44] dizbin (n=dizbin@c-24-19-155-33.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:44] dizbin (n=dizbin@c-24-19-155-33.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:44] v3gard, why dont you use find for this ? [07:44] exactly what you want to do [07:46] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:47] i'm making a script that removes nasty characters from files and directories, as well as removing whitespace and transforms them to lowercase [07:47] v3gard, vv [07:47] http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts [07:48] is anybody familiar with teamspeak? [07:48] theres a script called win2lin that does similar to what you want [07:48] lowkyalur, yes [07:49] lowkyalur, what's the problem? [07:49] lowkyalur, jsut isntall it as describe in teamspeak Faq`s [07:49] http://pastebin.com/m5f69af44 [07:50] dive: thanks for the tip, but I actually prefer making these scripts by myself since they make me learn something useful:) [07:51] dive i got a strange error when i try to run it: Error reading Label7.Font.Name: Division by zero. [07:51] v3gard, I'm just suggesting that you look at it for the recusiveness [07:51] dive: it doesnt even start the gui [07:51] this on i use to replace whitespace and lowercase on mp3's [07:51] dive: just hangs [07:51] for i in * ; do mv "$i" "$(echo "$i" | tr -s " " _ | tr -s "-" -- | sed 's-\.[Mm][Pp]3$-.mp3-'| sed 's-\&-and-g;s-[^A-Za-z0-9_\.]--g')" ; done [07:52] hmm that's strange [07:52] I've never had any problem with TS [07:53] on 12.1 it was running fine [07:53] runs ok on 12.2 here - perhaps you need a font package [07:54] lol great. which one? [07:54] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:55] lowkyalur, can you pastebin the output of 'ls /var/log/packages/*font*' [07:55] and I will compare with mine [07:56] dive: thanks for the tip :) solved my issue quite easily :) [07:56] np [07:56] http://pastebin.com/d4bcf133a [07:58] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) joined ##slackware. [08:00] lowkyalur, I have same so it must be somewhere else.. no ideas atm [08:00] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.14.120) joined ##slackware. [08:00] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.4.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:00] dive: thanks anyways. i think i will now dismantle qt, mebbe i find something [08:01] lowkyalur, I think they have a forum don't they? Perhaps someone will know there [08:01] qhich QT do you have installed? [08:02] dive: 3.3.8.b [08:02] same [08:03] but I also have 4.4.0 installed [08:03] now that might be [08:04] i can't check what versoin of TS i was running on 12.1 [08:04] so maybe that's it [08:04] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [08:04] not sure which version ts wants but I always thought it was compiled statically [08:04] i'll check with their forums, the devels should know what the heck that message means [08:05] yeah - best bet [08:11] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:11] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [08:15] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.231.199.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: "I'm Gone" [08:19] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:25] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [08:25] Action: The-Croupier waves at the channel [08:25] hi The-Croupier [08:26] hows it going today Camarade_Tux [08:26] kama (n=kama@host247-13-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:26] kama (n=kama@host247-13-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:27] pretty well, I got my terabyte hard drive, already 8% full and now I'm going to experience with sata hotplug/unplug :) [08:27] sounds like fun..;) [08:28] I hope everything will work as expected (it's a regular desktop comp, not a server at all so sata hotplug could easily fail) but some fireworks would be fun too :p [08:28] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc3-asht4-0-0-cust589.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left ##slackware ("I've got a shed and im going to tinker in it"). [08:28] ;) [08:28] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:29] brb :) [08:33] jerojasr1 (n=jerojasr@190.158.122.188) joined ##slackware. [08:33] =/ the cable which came with the HD is esata, not sata ='( [08:35] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:36] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. 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[08:46] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [08:47] dizbin (n=dizbin@c-24-19-155-33.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:47] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) left irc: Connection timed out [08:47] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.14.120) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:48] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.7.245) joined ##slackware. [08:50] hi all [08:51] my spanish kbd works ok inside the X system but not in the console, there it is in English [08:51] limpio, loadkeys [08:51] you need to be root iirc [08:51] just launch it? [08:52] try 'man loadkeys' :p [08:53] thx [08:57] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:58] limpio: create a file /etc/rc.d/rc.keymap, make it executable and add this line in the file: /usr/bin/loadkeys es.map [08:58] dscpl0 (n=sulo@cpe.atm2-0-76461.0x535af6fe.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:58] Then after reboot, your console will have a spanish keyboard mapping [08:58] alienBOB, thank you [09:00] lnxslack (i=0@187-24-20-8.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:00] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:01] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-03258.home.otenet.gr) left irc: No route to host [09:04] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-218-79.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. 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[09:38] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:38] hello gang :-) [09:41] aftnoon macavity [09:45] tsomi (n=chatzill@91-164-30-233.rev.libertysurf.net) joined ##slackware. [09:46] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-196804.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:46] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-196804.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [09:46] tsomi (n=chatzill@91-164-30-233.rev.libertysurf.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:46] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-196804.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:47] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-196804.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [09:47] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-196804.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:49] Nick change: poona -> poona|away [09:49] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [09:49] poona|away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [09:50] smack that [09:50] Old_Fogie: get your arse in here.. i need to talk to you about Radeon R200 and EGL/Xegl [09:51] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:51] Old_Fogie: *pronto*.. i dont care if you are not connected to IRC right now.. i *expect* you to react to summon anyway! [09:52] who else has an R200 based chip? [09:53] jerojasr1 (n=jerojasr@190.158.122.188) joined ##slackware. [09:54] oll (n=ex@151.53.35.187) joined ##slackware. [09:54] Action: BP{k} summons 'bigger fish' [09:57] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-118-75.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [09:58] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host56-73.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [09:59] spmd (i=N95@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [09:59] BP{k}: do you have any Radeon cards in the 85xx to 92xx line? [09:59] r0b_ (n=r0b@pool-71-244-128-195.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:01] hm no. [10:02] 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AS [Radeon 9550] (Secondary) <- in kethry computer [10:02] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:03] oll (n=ex@151.53.35.187) left irc: "Leaving" [10:03] the newest ATI driver Requires PCI_MSI [10:04] BP{k}: ill go check with the xorg guys if the wiki is outdated then... it was last touched Aug 8 2005, so it probably is [10:05] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host56-73.etanet.se) left ##slackware. [10:05] BP{k}: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/EGL and http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Xegl [10:05] BP{k}: looks like a pretty cool technology :-) [10:07] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:07] interesting. [10:10] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [10:10] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:11] i just saw libEGL_intel flash by, so we may be luckey that this is comming mainstram [10:11] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:11] dscpl0 (n=sulo@cpe.atm2-0-76461.0x535af6fe.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) left irc: "Leaving" [10:11] damn.. i learn more and more about all this bleeding edge X stuff going on, yet i cant keep up with scripts to build all this [10:13] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [10:13] g'day [10:18] jiffypop (n=jiffypop@32.143.13.148) joined ##slackware. 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[10:27] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. [10:27] i hope those wildfires are getting extinguished down there, and you guys hang those bastards that are guilty of starting them [10:27] we dont hang people [10:27] fireing squad? [10:27] life sentence then? [10:28] electric chair? [10:28] Tyrael_ (i=pirc30@d88083.upc-d.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:28] after all the lives and property lost they deserve it [10:28] agreed [10:28] the people living in heavy bush without taking proper precautions (clearly firebreaks, clearing trees near the house, clearing gutters) are just as much to blame as those who start fires [10:28] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [10:29] i keep my property cleared of underbrush [10:29] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:29] yeah well those who lost their homes didnt [10:29] 25 years for arson involving death in australia. [10:29] those who died didnt evacuate. [10:31] what trees are common where those fires were? arent gum trees and eucalyptus trees quite flamable? [10:31] evo- (n=evo@p4FD4D4DB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:31] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.7.245) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:32] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.41.134) joined ##slackware. [10:32] hot summer, dry leaves and branches [10:32] j0z (n=JESUS@189.73.7.217) joined ##slackware. [10:32] i have mostly oak trees, they dont burn easily, i keep the cedar trees cut down, cedar trees burn like gasoline in the hot summer time [10:33] dry leaves are the killer. especially in gutters [10:33] it was so hot that day, birds were just falling out of the trees [10:33] damn [10:33] thick bushy underbrush is what makes for bad fires here [10:34] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@dsl-153-65.b2b2c.ca) left irc: "Quitte" [10:34] they are drafting laws to enable forceful evacuation [10:35] gm152 (n=gm@d121-132-40.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:35] the only people who should die in bushfires is firefighters. [10:35] they should also consider making people keep the brush clear around their homes if they live in the bush [10:36] also building codes for bush houses [10:36] i keep the brush clear because i have too much to lose if my home catches fire, an ounce of prevention is worth a ton of cure [10:37] flame resistant materials, gutter guards... [10:37] r0b_ (n=r0b@pool-71-244-128-195.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:40] rg3_ (n=rg3@83.231.80.84) joined ##slackware. [10:41] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [10:41] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [10:42] blaming the victims. that's the right attitude [10:42] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:42] ananke: no seriously, some of these people were absolute morons [10:43] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl121-54.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:43] spook : negligence is not on the same level as arson [10:43] http://track.airborne.com/atrknav.asp?shipmentNumber=9181677050 <<< hurry up! [10:43] so don't even go there [10:43] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] ananke: agree to disagree [10:44] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalyptus#Fire [10:44] rg3_ (n=rg3@83.231.80.84) left irc: Client Quit [10:47] limac (n=limac@ool-44c1ff82.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [10:48] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [10:48] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:51] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.89) left ##slackware. [10:53] alice_c (i=alice@89.194.134.154) joined ##slackware. [10:53] n0on3 (n=n0on3@81-208-83-247.fastres.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:53] plipp (n=cam@m83-188-223-171.cust.tele2.se) left irc: Connection timed out [10:55] wakeup (n=wakeup@koln-5d814f4f.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [10:56] spook: it was arson that started the mayhem? [10:56] lionping (n=itsme@cm.mpi.univie.ac.at) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:56] macavity: *shrug* [10:56] i dont watch the news, so.. [10:56] i havent heard any confirmed reports that it was the SOLE cause of the fire [10:56] would it be a bad idea to replace /home by a symlink to /mnt/freedisk for example? [10:56] ok [10:56] certainly at least a few ppl have been caught [10:56] wakeup : not really. [10:57] ok nice [10:57] rg3 (n=rg3@83.231.82.51) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:57] anyone have problems with crontab -e not saving edits? [10:57] dive: :wq [10:57] wakeup: you could also just edit /etc/fstab [10:57] dive : nope. it works for everybody [10:57] got that with root and user on 12.2 [10:57] macavity: i think he wants to use a folder on the root of the extra drive [10:57] dive : as long as you know how to use your editor [10:57] wakeup: that is, if you intend to use all of "freedisk" as /home anyway, i would say that is the clean cut way of doing it [10:57] lionping (n=itsme@cm.mpi.univie.ac.at) joined ##slackware. [10:58] ananke, yeah I know vim very well [10:58] spook: roger [10:58] macavity: that was my first idea, but I am thinking about scalability. what if I need my space in some other folder than /home [10:58] at the moment I have to edit the cron file manually [10:58] wakeup: you're thinking too much about this [10:58] ananke: could it be the auto backup issue? [10:58] but I did change editor from vi to vim but that shouldn't make any difference [10:58] wakeup : first, those are called 'directories' :) second, you can mount whatever device under /home/whatever [10:59] wakeup: i always have /home on a seperate partition [10:59] XGizzmo, possibly, but i've never seen it cause problems [10:59] macavity: i rarely use /home :P [10:59] wakeup: if you then later add another disk you can just mount --bind it into, say, /home/wakeup/pr0n/ [10:59] spook: odd... i live there :P [11:00] http://imagebin.org/38461 [11:00] tntslack (n=will@adsl54-246.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:00] har har [11:00] crontab -e working for user but not saving as root... [11:00] macavity: yeah but what if I want to expand /var/log with the same disk? [11:01] macavity: I think i could do that with symlinks [11:01] sigh... [11:02] ah ok that is possible with --bind [11:02] nice ;> [11:03] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:04] jerojasr1 (n=jerojasr@190.158.122.188) left irc: "leaving" [11:05] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:06] copland-leopard (n=copland-@209.241.118.121) left irc: [11:10] josemanuel (n=josemanu@73.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [11:11] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [11:11] works with vi but not with vim, how annoying [11:11] credo (n=name@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. [11:12] wakeup: it looks like you should start looking into LVM instead [11:12] dive, what works with vi but not with vim ? [11:12] crontab -e [11:12] wakeup: that is probably the only sensible thing for someone who, like you, wishes to use both belt and suspenders :P [11:14] ok, to all the good folks who are interested in testing the latest and greatest of xorg/Mesa/Gallium3D, http://macavity.rlworkman.net is now up to date [11:14] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:14] Action: macavity haz teh shithe for anyone who wants it [11:14] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:16] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.151.91) joined ##slackware. [11:17] dive: does you vi symlink point to elvis? [11:17] yes [11:17] it appears that elvis is king then :P [11:18] it would be if it would display files correctly [11:18] at the mo I'm having to scroll down line by line with enter key [11:18] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [11:21] I mean, when I open a file with vi it only displays the first line at the bottom of console and I have to scroll down to read the rest of it. Very strange.. [11:22] vi in slackware is a symlink to elvis [11:22] yeah I know that [11:22] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl121-54.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:22] read up a few lines ;P [11:23] i like Midnight Commander and its built in editor, mcedit [11:23] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl121-54.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:23] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [11:23] Busindre (n=Busindre@unaffiliated/busi) left irc: "Saliendo" [11:24] is there an hard drive encryption how-to for slackware? (luks/dm-crypt maybe?) [11:24] http://www.midnight-commander.org/ they even have a new home page [11:24] Pig_Pen: nice.. are those numbers at the bottom F keys? [11:24] Pig_Pen, that's great but can you edit crontab with it? [11:24] oh yes [11:25] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Connection timed out [11:25] yup, anything you can edit with vi vim you can edit in midnight commander [11:25] eeek [11:26] crontab does not honner $EDITOR [11:26] no it's $VISUAL [11:26] F4 to edit [11:26] wakeup: README_CRYPT.TXT on install dvd [11:26] dive: ah [11:26] thx pprkut [11:27] np [11:27] and I had this problem with 12.1 too [11:27] I mean the vi not displaying files properly [11:27] dive: vim does, but vi doesnt? [11:27] mth- (i=1000@190-95-105-80.bk22-dsl.surnet.cl) joined ##slackware. [11:28] vim displays fine but will not save, vi saves but doesn't display the whole file like vim - just one line ata time [11:29] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Blivet.png this is what editing files in vi vim looks like to me [11:29] jiffypop (n=jiffypop@32.143.13.148) left irc: "i hope spook doesn't kill me slowly" [11:29] oh [11:29] well I've been using them for 6 years or more [11:30] so np for me [11:30] lol [11:30] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [11:31] v4nelle (n=van@adsl48-123.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:35] alice_c (i=alice@89.194.134.154) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:41] nick4_ (n=fffeop@adsl121-54.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:41] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host56-73.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [11:41] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host56-73.etanet.se) left ##slackware. [11:42] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.204.249) joined ##slackware. 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[11:50] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:54] pirving, I had to download a kernel module fo rmy Ma 101 [11:55] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl121-54.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:55] netmw245.inf [11:57] hmmm, ntfs-3g has had some nice changes during the last month (UTF-8 support and recovering for corrupted volumes)) [12:02] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) joined ##slackware. [12:02] dscpl0 (n=sulo@cpe.atm2-0-76461.0x535af6fe.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:02] I can't find the inf on google [12:03] hi, any tip on a good program for converting mp3 to ogg? [12:04] converting from one lossy format to another isn't the path to true wisdom. Just leave them as MP3 [12:04] pirving, driverpacks.net, it has nearly every driver [12:04] gut (n=gut@189.23.192.2) joined ##slackware. [12:04] LSD`, audacious doesn't seem to be able to play mp3, out-of-the-box [12:04] dscpl0, afaik it is [12:05] and maybe you should fix that problem ? [12:05] credo (n=name@80.233.147.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:05] does the mp3 play with mpg321/mpg123 ? [12:05] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [12:06] credo (n=name@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. [12:06] duryodhan, yes [12:07] then audacious should be playing it ... [12:07] try putting the mplayer codec pack into /usr/lib/codecs/ [12:07] duryodhan, when using "add to playlist" it can read the dir, but when clicking "add" no files comes up in playlist [12:08] Guest1740878011 (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:08] ^^^ [12:08] pirving (n=jd@cpe-72-224-166-222.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: [12:08] duryodhan, ok, I'll try that. but it sort of contradicst what Camarade_Tux said before [12:09] note the afaik ... [12:09] j0z (n=JESUS@189.74.88.47) joined ##slackware. [12:09] dscpl0, 'when using "add to playlist" it can read the dir, but when clicking "add" no files comes up in playlist', that's just audacious sucking [12:09] I also thought it plays ... but we (or atleast I) don't have a spanking new install to check that everytime [12:10] dscpl0: you tried adding a single mp3 file ? [12:10] Camarade_Tux, heh. and pretty big at that... so how am I supposed to add files?? [12:10] $audacious somefile.mp3 [12:11] duryodhan, heh. that produces an even weirder result: audacious opening up, with the "file load" dialogue open in that dir ( the dir of the $1 file) [12:11] I don't use playlist but what I do when using audacious is just press 'l' (open) and then directly select the files [12:12] lol .. there is some major screw up with your audacious [12:12] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:12] but I stopped using audacious, anything is better : smaller, not leaking memory, more compatible... [12:12] Camarade_Tux, well, sorry if I was unclear, but that's what I want to be able to do. no messing around with m3u-files, just loading a number of mp3.s to my playlist [12:12] audacious is a major screw up, if they ask me [12:13] Camarade_Tux, feel free to give me a tip of any good piece of software :-) [12:13] audacious is the new WinMe :p [12:13] yeah, I can sorta tell [12:13] dscpl0, mpc/mpd, mplayer, absement which I should try ( http://www.minuslab.net/d/?p=85 ) [12:14] Camarade_Tux, cheers, I'll give it a try [12:14] has amarok been mentioned yet, or was there a reason not to mention it that i missed? [12:15] josemanuel, too reasource-heavy for my taste ;-) [12:15] Action: Camarade_Tux doesn't like amarok, too heavy, but at least it's justified ;) [12:15] well, I mean, it is heavy but has good features too [12:16] i agree with Camarade_Tux in both his statements [12:16] dscpl0, do you have audacious plugins package installed? [12:17] ls /var/log/packages/*aud* [12:17] dive: no I purged it. that's the reason for my errors. thanks :-). However, I think I'll give mpc a shot [12:18] NaCly (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "Leaving" [12:20] _NaCl_ (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [12:22] _NaCl_ (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Client Quit [12:22] _NaCl_ (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [12:22] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.17) left irc: [12:23] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:24] Nick change: _NaCl_ -> NaCly [12:24] dscpl0, just in case you do ever want to convert audio files.. [12:24] http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/audio-convertors [12:24] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: No route to host [12:25] cheers, dive :) [12:25] I can make new ones by request, they are all very similar [12:25] np [12:25] renew_01 (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] dive: why would someone use that over ffmpeg/mencoder? [12:26] well they use mplayer which is almost mencoder [12:26] mplayer + lame [12:26] err [12:26] mencoder is the better way... [12:26] with mplayer, don't you have to reencode it real time? [12:26] hmm not sure [12:27] could be [12:27] as its actually playing the file.. [12:27] yeah this is true [12:27] gut (n=gut@189.23.192.2) left irc: "Leaving" [12:27] not necessarily [12:27] mencoder++ [12:27] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-175-85.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Connection timed out [12:27] might change that then, thanks [12:27] pprkut: its playing it and saving it as a wav file.. [12:28] straterra: dumpstream works faster than realtime, afaik [12:28] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.37) joined ##slackware. [12:28] it's not using dumpstream though.. [12:28] just -ao [12:29] mplayer -vo null -vc null -af resample=44100 -ao pcm:waveheader "$i" [12:29] for ex [12:29] ^^ [12:30] gm152 (n=gm@d121-132-40.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:30] well then, yeah [12:30] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [12:30] Action: pprkut likes transcode better anyway [12:32] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Client Quit [12:32] antler (n=antler@S010600226b809448.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] isBEKaml (n=vats@122.164.234.196) joined ##slackware. [12:35] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [12:35] antler: I shocked you that much with my statement that you had to leave the channel again? :P [12:36] pprkut: did you enjoy the transcode knuckle sammitch i gave you? [12:36] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.41.134) left irc: ":wq" [12:36] :P [12:37] hahaha [12:37] someone must have got ahold of it before it reached me [12:38] Guys, I recently bought a wide screen monitor (1440x900). When I tried to run xorgconfig, the screen resolutions shown nowhere match it. Is there any way I can customise this to fit? [12:38] pprkut: hey, so 3d in vbox, huh. have you tried it out yet? [12:38] no, not yet [12:38] isBEKaml: try X -configure instead [12:38] antler: afaik, it's windows guests only [12:38] thrice`: that will automatically configure, right? [12:39] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [12:39] antler: and they are using wine's libs, so why not using wine directly for that purpose ;) [12:39] pprkut: yeah, now i remember reading something like that [12:39] dscpl0 (n=sulo@cpe.atm2-0-76461.0x535af6fe.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) left irc: "Leaving" [12:39] thrice`: and, I want it to properly detect my video cards as well. I got an old one... nVidia GeForce 5200.. :( [12:39] antler: I will probably try when opengl works on linux guests [12:40] pprkut: yeah, me too [12:40] antler: but the new snapshot handling seems really stunning [12:41] antler: you can create multiple machines from the same base image, and changes are stored in different snapshots [12:41] pprkut: heh i'm used to updating virtualbox so often that i don't even bother to read what's new anymore; they have a new release every other week it seems. :P [12:41] straterra, seems mencoder will not do audio only [12:41] oh that's cool [12:41] antler: once a month :P [12:42] Tyrael_ (i=pirc30@d88083.upc-d.chello.nl) left irc: [12:42] dive: that is correct, however there's a script for that in the source tree I think [12:42] it's always seems to be getting better and better, imo [12:42] dive: ffmpeg will o.O [12:43] yeah [12:43] antler: yeah, but wouldn't it be strange if it got worse and worse. Although looking at other projects.... [12:43] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.204.249) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120121]" [12:44] pprkut: smartass.... :P [12:44] hahahah [12:44] :P [12:44] dive: it's TOOLS/aconvert.sh in mplayer's source tree [12:44] right I will look [12:44] thx [12:45] np [12:45] pprkut: you're still maintaining a version, yeah? [12:45] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-70-61-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [12:45] lowkyalur (n=low@icm2-orange.orange.sk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:45] evo- (n=evo@p4FD4D4DB.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:45] alice_c (i=alice@89.194.141.132) joined ##slackware. [12:45] antler: I'm maintaining many versions ;) Of what is the question. vbox? yes [12:45] is it ok to keep a UPS next to the speakers, or is that expected to make noise? [12:46] yeah, vbox. :) [12:46] root's .bash_history is zero size, what could cause it? [12:46] thrice`: there's still some gap when I started up X.. [12:47] or could you tell me how I could modify the terminal's appearance..? That is, if I manually adjust the monitor controls, the screen goes a bit off on the terminal. So there's some difference.. [12:49] evo- (n=evo@p4FD4D93E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:49] isBEKaml: heh what exactly is the problem? [12:49] antler: There's some gap on the screens and it doesn't exactly look nice, since I'm using a wide screen monitor.. [12:50] is the appropriate driver installed? [12:50] antler: yes [12:50] how did you install it? [12:51] antler: uh, the monitor was PnP. The CD that came along with was meant for Vista.. :( [12:51] um, driver for your card, the old geforce. [12:52] Nick change: renew_01 -> renew [12:52] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) joined ##slackware. [12:53] antler: I didn't need to install it.. [12:53] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [12:53] antler: I mean, it was already there... I seem to have forgotten how I looked that up, though.. :( [12:54] lsmod? I don't remember... [12:55] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:55] well have a look at the xorg.conf file, and (i'm not sure) it might be called "nv" i have a geforce as well, but am using nvidia's "nvidia" [12:55] yup, sudo /sbin/lspci|grep -i nv [12:55] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1) [12:55] :) [12:56] drkil (i=cyberS@189.82.127.213) joined ##slackware. [12:57] drkil (i=cyberS@189.82.127.213) left ##slackware ("[CyberScript]"). [12:57] antler: yes, I initially ran xorgconfig, manually ran through the steps, ensured that it was there and started up X, only to find that it isn't exactly what I thought.. [12:58] plipp (n=cam@78.82.68.163) joined ##slackware. [12:58] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [12:58] antler: later on a suggestion by thrice` , ran X -configure to test X. Still the same.. [12:59] antler: or you mean, I alter the "nv" in xorg.conf to "nvidia" ??? uh? [12:59] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:00] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:01] i'm just saying that i install the driver found on their site for my card. it automatically sets up x. [13:01] isBEKaml: run nvidia-xconfig as root to configure your xorg.conf for nvidia. [13:04] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [13:04] agentc0re: I don't seem to have that command. . . [13:05] then you don't have the nvidia drivers installed. [13:05] so I've a dilemma on my hands [13:05] agentc0re: uh? lspci shows up nvidia..? [13:05] that's because it's an nvidia device. That doesn't mean you have drivers for it. [13:05] syslog by default drops --MARK-- into /var/log/messages every $TIMEPERIOD. I usually turn that off because it fills space [13:06] however, I finally found a use for it [13:06] isBEKaml: what he means is, that you may have the open source "nv" driver installed, but not the proprietary "nvidia" one [13:06] agentc0re: oh, I will get back to you after I try installing the drivers.. [13:06] pprkut: I get it now.. [13:07] isBEKaml: You will need to download the drivers from nvidia's site and then drop to telinit 3 and install them as root. [13:07] agentc0re: yes, that's what I plan to do... BrB.. [13:07] isBEKaml: or use the slackbuilds ^^ : http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=legacy173&sv=12.2 [13:09] argh [13:09] i just accidently rm'd my home [13:09] is there a chance of recovery? [13:09] its not deadly but kind of annoying [13:10] CaptObviousman: So your dilemma is that you have found a use for it? ;) [13:10] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:10] wakeup: if you *really* want to recover things I can point you to testdisk. But....worth the effort? [13:11] pprkut: what is the effort? [13:11] wakeup: testdisk (or photorec I think it is, which is part of testdisk) will only handle specific file types [13:12] hmm [13:12] somebody knows a battery monitor in a tray icon? [13:12] kevman (n=kevin@ool-44c7354e.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [13:12] without gnome-kde deps [13:13] gabriel__: look on slackbuilds for xfce [13:13] which DE are you using ? [13:13] gabriel__: there are apps for it. [13:13] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:13] fluxbox [13:14] the ideal is only a litle try icon with % [13:14] tray* [13:14] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-72-224-255-142.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:14] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:15] alice_c (i=alice@89.194.141.132) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:16] taubstumm (n=taubstum@ip-80-226-12-21.vodafone-net.de) joined ##slackware. [13:16] do I have to do sth before I unplug discs in a raid? they are not mounted etc [13:17] macavity: in the house? [13:18] macavity: anyway, solved my wpa_supplicant woes. installed wicd. no more calling wpa and running dhcpcd manually. :D [13:19] Action: nooper is still wrestling with supplicant [13:19] anybody here use uvesafb with an nvidia card? any success? [13:21] http://imagebin.org/38469 [13:23] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.226.80.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [13:23] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.226.80.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:24] duh! I feel so silly now.... All I had to do was do an "automatic image adjust" on the monitor controls! :S :D [13:25] Thanks guys for the pointers! I esp found a way to test a new xorg.conf file with X -configure..! :) [13:25] that is, instead of going over that manually with xorgconfig..! :P [13:28] "I feel so silly now...." <----- isn't that an understatement? :P [13:31] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:31] antler: LOL! :P [13:33] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:36] firebird619 (n=jeremy@173-17-137-255.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [13:36] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.69.232) joined ##slackware. [13:40] siiiigh [13:41] theoffset (n=ismael@201-130-230-208-cable.cybercable.net.mx) joined ##slackware. [13:41] kevman (n=kevin@ool-44c7354e.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:43] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [13:45] tribeca (n=naitso@87.13.44.210) left irc: "ciao alla prossima" [13:45] spiki (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) joined ##slackware. [13:46] yaaaawn [13:46] well I fixed all my scripts to use ffmpeg now except the real audio convertors [13:47] http://www.plig.net/things/pictures/tn/6thsensestupidpeople.med.jpg :) [13:47] (no, I'm just tidying my drives my files) [13:47] s/my files// [13:47] indeed [13:49] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Connection timed out [13:50] lol Camarade_Tux. [13:50] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-72-224-255-142.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:50] i usually just rm -r ~/* when i need to tidy my home dir :D [13:50] CyberOwl (n=Olivier@85-218-16-57.dclient.lsne.ch) joined ##slackware. [13:51] s/home\ dir/sty/ [13:51] v4nelle (n=van@adsl48-123.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:51] Nick change: CyberOwl -> KnighTwist [13:51] KnighTwist (n=Olivier@85-218-16-57.dclient.lsne.ch) left irc: Client Quit [13:52] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.151.91) left irc: "leaving" [13:53] alice_c (i=alice@89.194.205.214) joined ##slackware. [13:53] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:53] Pig_Pen, you'd want me to delete such precious pics ? :D [13:54] no, just keep a backup copy of the stuff you want to save then you can restore the good stuff afterwards [13:55] I've been carying files over 7 different computers for ten years, it's a real mess now ;) [13:56] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) joined ##slackware. [13:57] burn the stuff you want to keep to DVDr [13:58] theoffset (n=ismael@201-130-230-208-cable.cybercable.net.mx) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:58] categorize it by file type and alphabetically [13:59] already 133GB used on a 1TB drive ;) [13:59] I started filling the drive about 8 hours ago [14:00] Camarade_Tux: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/1tbhdd? [14:03] theoffset (n=ismael@201-130-230-208-cable.cybercable.net.mx) joined ##slackware. [14:03] but why ? ='( [14:03] to fill it up? [14:03] chrome_ (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/chrome/x-455334) joined ##slackware. [14:03] right but I prefer to keep my music ;) [14:04] fine then cat /dev/urandom > /mnt/point/hugefile [14:04] chrome_ (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/chrome/x-455334) left ##slackware. [14:04] stress the filesystem limits [14:05] it's ntfs >< [14:05] thats like what, 64gb max file size or something [14:05] kevman (n=kevin@ool-44c7354e.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [14:05] I upgraded ntfs-3g to get a bit better perf [14:07] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) left irc: "Saliendo" [14:08] I'll mainly use that hard drive to store pr0n pics, pr0n movies, pr0n musics, pr0n shell scripts, pr0n slackware packages... [14:08] bad pr0n jokes? [14:09] Guest1740878011 (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:12] too even though I don't have that many =/ [14:12] maybe you can give me some :D [14:14] Camarade_Tux, funny pics :-) [14:15] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:15] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4386925.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:16] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4386925.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:16] pr0n slackware, there's an idea [14:16] no pr0n! [14:17] agiofws_ (n=agiofws@athedsl-4386925.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[14:23] /quit [14:23] isBEKaml (n=vats@122.164.234.196) left irc: "leaving" [14:24] /sucess [14:24] ohdear, pkgtools [14:24] ohdear, pkgtool [14:24] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:25] http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13134 [14:25] "The stack trace does not show any calls from ImageMagick. Instead it shows a trace from Ghostscript's libgs. Can you verify you are calling the ImageMagick convert command?" [14:25] Do you know how I would verify that I am calling the ImageMagick convert command? [14:26] you don't have an alias called 'convert'? [14:26] try running with full path [14:27] http://pastebin.com/m27d44e65 [14:28] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) joined ##slackware. [14:28] pi31415, that file converts fine here [14:28] it doesn't convert for me with the imagemagick that came with slackware 12.2, nor with the one i built from source [14:28] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-145-90.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [14:31] plipp (n=cam@78.82.68.163) left irc: "Leaving." [14:31] pi31415, alias convert [14:31] I do not have an alias named convert [14:32] $ alias convert [14:32] -sh: alias: convert: not found [14:32] they are basically saying that the convert program is NOT the imagemagick convert [14:32] or YOUR convert prog [14:32] rather [14:33] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:33] I posted a response [14:33] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:34] hope you used slackwares pkgtools :) [14:35] jonsmith1982: I just did ./configure --prefix=/home/ben/im && make && make install [14:35] pi31415: I can confirm the segfault with standard 12.2 imagemagick [14:37] wazzazajoo (n=Lionel@adsl-68-122-12-236.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] pi31415: however, my backtrace looks different [14:37] wazzazajoo (n=Lionel@adsl-68-122-12-236.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left ##slackware. [14:37] Hi all. [14:38] #0 0xb7bb9883 in IsGrayImage () from /usr/lib/libMagickCore.so.1 [14:38] That's what I get on slackware's imagemagick, but it doesn't have debugging symbols [14:38] /home/ben/im/bin/convert? [14:39] /home/ben/im/bin/convert is the one I compiled myself, which has debugging symbols [14:39] pi31415: right, I get something similar: http://www.pastebin.ca/1338202 [14:39] /usr/bin/convert is the one that came with slackware, which lacks debugging symbols [14:39] actually I remember now my imagemagick is the one from 12.1 and that works ok [14:40] segfault with 12.2 [14:41] I know there were some changes in the version 12.2 uses over the 12.2 - some of the libs were named differently and qbitorrent refused to run with the new version [14:41] fsck 12.2 over 12.1 [14:44] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [14:44] alice_c (i=alice@89.194.205.214) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:46] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. 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[14:54] setterm -regtabs [14:55] https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=1637860#post1637860 [14:56] pi31415, thanks [14:56] wow, a pastebin site i use now requires captcha [14:57] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:59] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:02] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-53-192.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:02] ALVAN (n=uyjkgh@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [15:03] alice_c (n=alice@host86-159-160-43.range86-159.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:03] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:03] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-18-185.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:03] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:03] pi31415, setterm -regtabs didn't seem to work. I tried setterm -regtabs 4 and it didn't change at all. i tried some other setterm commands to see if they worked and it was fine [15:04] sorry it didn't work [15:05] http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?p=44141#p44141 [15:05] pi31415, i can't see why it wouldn't work though [15:05] Do you have an idea how to get a complete backtrace? [15:05] imexius_ (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [15:06] Anakin (n=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [15:06] pi31415, i thinks it's strace [15:06] pi31415: go for the standard slackware backtrace, there's no libgs in there [15:07] pprkut, what's that? [15:07] jiraia (n=jiraia@201-67-80-97.cpece700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:07] hiptobecubic: nah, he uses a selfcompiled imagemagick that generates a different backtrace than 12.2's imagemagick [15:07] but both segfault [15:08] ah [15:09] wazzazajoo (n=Lionel@adsl-68-122-12-236.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [15:10] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [15:11] got any good ideas for a coding project? [15:12] edman007|work (n=edman007@ool-44c286d0.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:20] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:21] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [15:22] wazzazajoo (n=Lionel@adsl-68-122-12-236.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving." [15:23] pi31415, a curses based address book that reads csv files [15:24] spmd (i=N95@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:26] jiraia (n=jiraia@201-67-80-97.cpece700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [15:26] pi31415, also can open mutt for compose when email address is clicked/press enter on [15:27] or elinks/links for http [15:27] http://abook.sourceforge.net/ [15:27] no csv, but it has ldif [15:27] i have csv exported from kontact [15:28] I would like to be able to that but atm it looks like converting to html and opening in elinks is the easiest way.. [15:28] http://rolo.sourceforge.net/ [15:28] euzao (i=1000@189.38.154.85) joined ##slackware. [15:28] Anakin (n=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [15:29] i ended up going with plain HTML for my home book catalog [15:29] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-56-213-207.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] Anyone recommend an app for generating EER diagrams? I was going to snag GraphWiz but wanted to know if anyone thinks there is anything better [15:32] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-59-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:32] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [15:33] err GraphViz.. [15:36] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [15:36] pi31415, abook looks good [15:38] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0C6CD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] wakeup (n=wakeup@koln-5d814f4f.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: "leaving" [15:45] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-59-42.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [15:54] bah all this 1234567890 talk.. call me when it's 9876543210 [15:58] pi31415, abook is useful but it's much faster to just open the addressbook file in vim and add entries... [15:58] Wescotte, I'll give you a wake up call for 2222222222 [15:58] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:58] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [15:59] I might be alive for that one :) [15:59] perhaps perhaps... [15:59] Action: Wescotte attempts to do the math and gets bored [15:59] :-P [15:59] know the year on that one? [15:59] nope [16:00] well if 1970-2008 is ~ half that #.. then it's probably another 40yrs give or take [16:00] er it's around a trillian seconds from now [16:01] did they party for 1111111111? [16:01] or was there huge panic that 1111111111 would flip around to 0000000000? [16:01] 32.5 years or so [16:01] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.89) joined ##slackware. [16:01] no idea [16:02] Action: Wescotte is trying very hard NOT to do his homework as you can see [16:02] i bet there was panic at 999999999 [16:02] if we are still alive in 32 years we can say to the nubs 'course I remember the 1234567890 party. Things were different in those days...' [16:03] we haz ineternetz not skynetz [16:03] MrJackson: nah, that's nowhere near the original 32 bit limit of the variable used to store the time [16:03] if we're lucky unix will be gone by then :) [16:03] MrJackson: Unix has its "y2k" in January 2038 [16:04] yep 64bit ftw [16:04] I wonder if we will still haz catspeak in 32 years.. [16:05] hashed_ (n=hashed@ip70-178-108-166.ks.ks.cox.net) left ##slackware. [16:05] Action: dive reverse reminisces [16:08] n0on3 (n=n0on3@81-208-83-247.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. 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[16:25] hi [16:26] hi [16:26] aev: that's a tough one [16:27] aev: maybe with ACLs [16:27] aev: technically ACLs should be able to do it [16:27] alice_c (n=alice@host86-159-160-43.range86-159.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:27] aev: however ACLs can quickly become unmanagble [16:28] i don't have ACLS [16:28] easier way? [16:28] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [16:28] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) joined ##slackware. [16:29] n0on3 (n=n0on3@81-208-83-247.fastres.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:29] you dont?!? [16:29] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:29] setfacl? [16:29] aev: are you on ext2? [16:31] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:31] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [16:34] aev: "setfacl -m u:$TARGE_UID:000" should effectively remove all access to a file for the user with the user id $TARGET_UID [16:34] aev: as in, even if the user owns the file he cant even read it [16:35] or delete it.. or anything else :P [16:35] tntslack (n=will@adsl54-246.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:35] uhm, "setfacl -m u:$TARGE_UID:000 /path/to/the/file" is what i meant [16:36] aev: setfacl(1) for more details [16:36] what is mean: ReiserFS: sda6: warning: clm-2100: nesting info a different FS [16:37] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] josemanuel (n=josemanu@73.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [16:38] O_O [16:38] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:38] tntslack: what is the file called "clm-2100"? [16:38] tntslack: does that happen to be a disk image? or some other file holding a reiserfs filesystem? [16:39] don't know, i made install new kernel, default one, and got this msg at boot... [16:39] it means every wife in a 10km radius should look over their shoulder [16:39] tntslack: do you have a file called clm-2100? [16:39] and if they see reiser creeping up behind with a hammer? [16:39] snorks/dive: knock it off.. [16:40] macavity nop [16:41] tntslack: really strange... [16:41] i call only mkinitrd [16:41] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:41] google has some unhelpful links with that error message [16:42] tntslack: better safe than sorry: find / -name clm-2100 [16:42] tntslack: we need to find the culprit [16:43] Dad` (n=Dad`@92.9.91-79.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [16:43] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:43] searching for that... [16:44] it happens when i reinstall kernel from dvd... [16:45] and on boot, it's spamming every time the msg... [16:45] yes [16:45] ive found a mention of it on kernel-trap [16:45] s/-// [16:46] but it is old news.. [16:46] got only this: ind: /proc/8607/net: Invalid argument [16:46] find: /proc/8607/net: Invalid argument [16:48] tntslack: back up anything important ASAP [16:49] are you serious [16:49] yes [16:49] why? is there something big problem? [16:49] don't scar me [16:49] i just found something in the Arch Linux that suggests that your filesystem could be about to jump out the window [16:51] *Arch Linux Forum [16:51] and what should i do now? new install ? [16:51] can i install just new kernel with ext3 file system ? [16:51] i always use ext3 [16:52] it works [16:52] i reccomend ext3 untill brtfs becomes mainline [16:52] on my personal workstations that is [16:52] better than reiserfs ? [16:52] I had to do a fsck on reiser once and it just trashed the whole partition - went back to ext3 after that [16:52] personally i use reiserfs too, because it is speedy when compiling stuff (and that is what i do most the time) [16:53] .. but if you care about your data, use ext3 [16:53] tntslack: imo and only mo, you should use ext3 always unless your setting up a machine for a special purpose where a certain file system is required either because of big files or huge files or something like that [16:53] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [16:53] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:53] or lots and lots and lots of tiny files [16:53] but yes, i agree with snorks [16:53] i'm using ext4 here, because... i want :D [16:54] same [16:54] i noticed i used big files and huge files [16:54] i meant small or big [16:54] same agree with snorks [16:54] but i did not have any problem until yesterday, when i made reinstall kernel... [16:54] "use the kernel defacto fs unless you know that you know what you are doing" :P [16:55] tntslack: again, reiserfs is largely unmaintained [16:55] will try to convert to ext3... [16:56] tntslack: the lead developer (and nearly sole contributor) got involved in a tradegy, and wont be around to maintain reiserfs for a *long* time [16:56] Well, tragedy... [16:56] what alienBOB said [16:56] He killed his wife and tried to get away with it [16:57] belesprit (n=belespri@70.15.43.94.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [16:57] expect reiser to get dropped at some point [16:57] has he been convicted yet? [16:57] yes [16:57] Anyone here good with graphviz? I'm trying to create "double" lines to a node. Anyone know if that's possible? Just the style changed from a single line to a double line really but I can't find reference to anything like that in the docs [16:57] shame [16:57] anyway, it's not him who sould be maintaining reiserfs, but his company, namesys, and they're not doing it (they're, if anything, working on reiser4) [16:58] personally I didn't rate the evidence that conlcusive but I only had to go what the press published... [16:58] he led them to the body, pretty damning evidence [16:58] ok guys, thanks for advices, going to convert to ext3, hope every think will fine ... [16:58] did he?? [16:58] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.180.28.124) joined ##slackware. [16:58] didn;t read that [16:59] rg3: namesys.com has been offline for ages [16:59] I thought she was still 'missing' [16:59] No [16:59] k [16:59] well that's pretty conclusive [17:00] poor kid [17:01] tragic for everyone involved.. right down to end users of his efforts [17:02] well like I said, I did a fsck after a hard reboot and it trashed a partition, so maybe it just wasn't that stable [17:02] so far never had a problem with ext3 [17:04] ive never had problems with reiserfs myself [17:04] and i take great care not to have reiserfs images on reiserfs partitions [17:04] everybody has had problems with a filesystem at some point in time, so debating over that usually ends up as a battle of anecdotes [17:04] and if i must have them, i gzip them right away [17:05] rg3++ [17:05] :P [17:05] tntslack (n=will@adsl54-246.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:05] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:05] Ether_Man_ (i=Ether_Ma@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:06] Nick change: Ether_Man_ -> Ether_Man [17:07] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:08] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [17:09] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:10] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-132-181.net.novis.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:10] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [17:12] can anybody else try getting bash 4rc1 from ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/pub/bash/ - I'm getting insanely slow speeds, but everything else seems okay [17:12] er, maybe #bash would be better for this... [17:12] :P [17:13] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:14] slakmagik: i dont care what you ask in here :D [17:15] nice to see a channel where users cut each other some slack [17:15] im only speaking for myself though [17:16] one could say that s/better/obvious/ would be the way to state it :P [17:16] i dont care either.. if there is not someone here seeking support, a little rubbing eachoters backs doesnt hurt anyone [17:17] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:17] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc3-asht4-0-0-cust589.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [17:17] yeah - "obvious" is right. :) [17:18] man.. this whole DRI/DRI2/GEM thing is getting funky to sort out.. [17:20] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) joined ##slackware. [17:20] gzamora (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] mib_h0riftm9 (i=550d5535@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d4b0c45ad4e86fcf) joined ##slackware. [17:23] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:23] sllide (n=nds@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:24] is slax slackware based? [17:24] alice_c (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:24] s/based/derived/ [17:24] we dont support it [17:24] :S [17:24] ask in #slax [17:24] doh [17:25] XD [17:25] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.69.232) left irc: "Leaving" [17:25] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [17:26] since folks want me to be off-topic ;) I'll say "cool - 4.0rc1 fixes a bug that's bugging me"... now I just need to wait for 4.0 to be released and make it into Slack... and seeing's how 3.2's still in testing... :) [17:27] what kind of explorer does slackware use? [17:27] tntslack (n=will@adsl54-246.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:27] hey, the wireless setting, what is rc.wireless.conf for, if all can be set in rc.inet1.conf ? [17:27] The lonely kind [17:27] mib_h0riftm9: just delete rc.wireless.conf [17:27] holly shit, i am alive :D [17:28] sllide: explorer?!? [17:28] i mean [17:28] "Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in C:\Webpages\nlcnet\article.php on line 115" [17:28] sllide: Ford I thinkl :) [17:28] macavity: a GUI guy [17:28] kde or gnome [17:28] did't need to reinstall full system... no more FS problem... [17:28] they should have used Linux [17:28] macavity done it ;) [17:28] sllide: kde, xfce, windowmaker, blackbox, twm... but no gnome [17:29] ah [17:29] sllide: i think fluxbox is in there too.. not sure [17:29] gnome stinks XD [17:29] gnome via third party [17:29] not really... gnome is just incredibly hard to maintain sane packages of [17:29] nothing stinks... to the people who like it [17:29] does it have a usb version? [17:30] what do you mean? [17:30] no live cd [17:30] boot from usb [17:31] sllide: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/guide-installing-slack-12.0-to-a-usb-drive-566697/ [17:31] lol [17:31] sllide: you should double check the module lists against 12.2 [17:31] there is usb installation [17:31] i'm asking it here bcuz i dont have a browser XD [17:31] sllide: the answer is both yes and no [17:32] last question [17:32] sllide: you can do it, but it is not some "point and click" supported functionality [17:32] alienBOB: and the purpose of its existence ? for past versions ? [17:32] Yes [17:32] is it a install cd [17:33] or a zip [17:33] Look for yourself sllide [17:33] lol [17:33] How hard is it [17:33] hard [17:33] sllide: there are a few things you should know about slackware before you decide to go with it: a) slackware does not do automatic dependency resolution. b) slackware takes for granted that you read manuals c) the slackware community takes for granted that you read manuals d) the manuals are there.. just waiting for you to read them [17:34] BOotable CD, DVD, USB image, PXE image [17:34] ah [17:34] sllide you can use slapt-get for auto dependency btw [17:34] sounds like a chalange [17:35] tntslack: please, dont promot that POS in public [17:35] *promote [17:35] it breaks systems for lunch [17:35] .. and encureages users to use packages from LP.net, which is even worse [17:35] macavity i use it for some apps and works fine... [17:35] tntslack: you were lucky then [17:35] ^^ [17:35] anyone in here know much about cb radios? [17:36] slackware is not meant to have dependency resolution. don't try to inject them in, or slackware gets sad [17:36] sllide: slackware is for two kinds of people: a) veteran users and b) users who want to become vetran users fast [17:36] macavity i born 13 and Friday :D [17:36] i'm going to use it [17:37] i'm pro enough [17:37] sllide take your time, and be patient ;) [17:37] sllide: good, start by getting a browser handy, and then rad all the URLs in the topic [17:37] haha [17:37] i mean it :P [17:37] me 2 XD [17:37] sllide - "links -g" will make a good graphical console browser... [17:38] sllide: are you on slax now? [17:38] nope [17:38] pi31415: somewhat [17:38] on mah DS! [17:38] muhahaha [17:38] NyteOwl: I read that you need a big antenna for the radio to be effective, that the handheld units with small antennas don't transmit far at all [17:39] alienBOB you can't use -g mode if didn't load svgalib_helper module... [17:39] I was thinking about something for emergencies if I rode my bicycle on remote roads [17:39] So you should tntslack [17:40] 0.o [17:40] do you think a handheld cb would be worth much in the mountains? [17:40] i want to say that, sllide need to do that [17:40] things are getting complicated now XD [17:40] [Bop] (i=0@bl8-65-185.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:40] pi31415: depends on what you mean by small and far. Normally you won't manae more than a couple of miles without at least a 1/4 wave whip antenna. Most handhelds are not full power (4 watts) so that also limits their range [17:41] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:41] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4386925.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:41] pi31415: it would be ebtter than nothing. Generally ther is a lot of crap to wade through if you intent serious communications. Is this for casual chat or serious communications [17:41] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4386925.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:41] "Generally, a properly tuned CB has a range of 10-20 miles, but it is "line of sight" transmission, and mountainous terrain can reduce this range to less than a mile." [17:41] Dadsy (n=Dad`@85-170-152-187.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:42] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:42] i was thinking about an emergency where i am immobilized and need help [17:42] actually CB can do more than line of site but you are not supposed to by law. heh And yes tall buildinmgs and mountainous terrain can int he right ciscumstances reduce your range. truew of msot radio comms [17:42] ooooh [17:43] this is non-slackware related [17:43] we're waiting for you to install slackware before we continue [17:44] lol [17:44] pi31415: if you are hiking, check with the police/forestry for the area you are going to and see what they monitor. you might be better off with a GPRS radio. or cary both if you don't mind an extra kilo of weight [17:44] good if i had the big bux: http://www.bluecosmo.com/shop/product/24/Iridium_9505_Satellite_Phone/ [17:44] sllide 1st install it, then come here for any problem and advices, if you will not test it, you can't now how it testy ;) [17:44] thrice`: March 1 of the buildscript is running as intended now [17:44] thrice`: in case you want to get some bleeding going :P [17:44] is Iridium still in operation? I tohught they shut it down years ago [17:45] neat :) are you on 2.6.29 too? [17:45] not yet [17:45] An iridium satellit collided with an old Russian sat here a week or so ago [17:45] ill install it tomorow [17:45] bah, isn't that where the fun intel-gfx stuff is? [17:45] Does anyone know of a an ebook reader that can display PDF's with equations in them? [17:46] if it can display PDF's I don't image the content would be an issue [17:46] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4386925.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:46] thrice`: i am mainly interested in the mesa/gallium parts right now [17:46] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4386925.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:46] Hmm. I'm sketched out by readers that have "experimental" pdf support. [17:47] thrice`: are you on the mesa3d-dev ml? [17:47] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:47] thank god for the way network setting is done in slackware.... at least after experience with opensuse [17:47] macavity: nope; i'm not terribly interrested, to be honest. though I do own an X3100 in my laptop (965) [17:47] damn :P [17:48] i've just accepted that it will always suck [17:48] :P [17:48] O_O [17:48] but but but but! [17:48] with Gallium it wont [suck that much] [17:49] well, I shouldn't say that, because I like the card alot (for 2d); 3D will always suck * [17:49] Dadsy (n=Dad`@85-170-152-187.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [17:49] from what i read, no [17:49] Oh Bell are nice. They gave me a $250 loyalty credit to upgrade to a new phone. If I opened a new account I could get a $450 phone for free! Generous folks! [17:49] not as long as you have sse[2/3] [17:50] can anyone recommedn a good decompiler/disassembler for Win32 ? [17:50] that's the entire point on using LLVM to translate TGSL into mixed sequence of sse and GPU instructions [17:51] s/on/of/ [17:51] Anakin (i=Anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [17:55] Anyone have a dell monitor that has usb ports on the side? If so, do they work? [17:56] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [17:59] Da_Rockwilder (n=Peter@213.16.49.242) joined ##slackware. [17:59] Dad` (n=Dad`@92.9.91-79.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:07] agentc0re: yes [18:10] sllide (n=nds@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: Connection timed out [18:12] m4dscientist (n=hostile@141.85.0.66) joined ##slackware. [18:12] is there a safe and quick way of updating slackware? [18:13] for example i want to upgrade from qt3.x.x to qt4 [18:13] one time i tried that I busted KDE [18:13] and had to downgrade to qt3.x.x [18:13] that's because kde3 wont' work with qt4 [18:13] m4dscientist : uhmm, that's not 'updating slackware', that's 'replacing slackware packages with some unofficial ones' [18:14] qt4 is in testing, so it's not unofficial [18:14] there's this tool qtoctave that wants only qt4 [18:15] Read /testing/packages/kde4/README m4dscientist [18:15] In slackware-current, that is [18:16] You can use the packages there on Slackware 12.2 as well if you are running that [18:16] Qt3 + KDE3 -> Qt4 + KDE4 [18:17] do I have to upgrade the whole system to 12.2? [18:19] You're not even running 12.2? [18:19] i have 12.0 [18:20] If you want to use the official Slackware packages for KDE4 then yes, you need Slackware 12.2 [18:20] You can always try to compile it all yourself [18:20] certainly will keep him entertained fora couple of hours ;) [18:20] or days [18:20] If you want Qt4 but want to keep running KDE3 (using Qt3) you can still install Qt4 in parallel m4dscientist [18:21] I was talking about larger values of "a couple" ;) [18:22] m4dscientist: I still have a qt 4.4.1 package for Slackware 12.0 that does not destroy Qt3 or KDE3 here - http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/qt4/pkg/12.0/ [18:23] I used that for compiling/running VLC among others [18:23] rg3 (n=rg3@83.231.93.35) left irc: "Quit" [18:24] and I assume it will be installed in a differenr location(like /opt/ or something) [18:25] m4dscientist: in /extra on 12.0 there is a tool called slackpkg [18:25] Da_Rockwilder (n=Peter@213.16.49.242) left irc: [18:25] m4dscientist: install it and read its manpage [18:25] m4dscientist: that may be the roll of life savers you are looking for [18:25] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-118-75.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:25] m4dscientist: no it will go straight into /usr [18:25] But that is not a bad thing [18:26] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:26] is there an app that comes with slack that can reduce .gif file sizes? [18:26] Dad` (n=Dad`@85-170-152-187.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:26] convert dartmouth [18:26] im sure there are many linux apps that can do this but [18:26] ok [18:26] thx [18:27] straterra: You didn't have to enable anything special did you? When you do a lsusb does it show the dell hub device from the monitor? [18:27] alienBOB and if I want to compile something with qt4 I will have to change the paths? [18:28] m4dscientist: if you install Qt to /opt you have to set QTDIR to point to that before you compile [18:28] elbeardmorez_ (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:28] m4dscientist: no, if you install my package and logout/login (to run /etc/profile.d/qt4.sh and setup the environment) any Qt4 based source should pick it up [18:29] ah.. Patrick thinks of everything :P [18:29] interesting [18:29] i'll give it a try [18:31] Ah, my old packages do not have etc/profile.d/qt4.sh scripts. But, the qt4 binaries will be found if the app's source is written properly [18:32] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat074.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:33] ok, call me stupid - how the hell do you open a DVD case with the "Red Tag" plastic thing on it without breaking everything all to hell? [18:34] you pull the little red thing [18:35] how can make mounting removeble media esier? [18:35] i use mount and a lot of enteries in fstab .. [18:35] pull? I tried that, I pried at it with a knife - I even tried pliers It doesn't fucking move [18:35] but it get confused when you try to mount say sde1 wich could be either vfat or hfs+ or any linux fs .. [18:36] you need different -o flags for each fs type .. [18:36] errordeveloper: chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.hald and /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus and add your regular user to the plugdev group [18:36] but i wanna manually mount stuff .. [18:37] i just need to make it esier with all the fstab enteries [18:37] then you switch to root and do it manually [18:37] there is a reason why automounting is the holy grail.. manual mounting is a PITA.. especially with dynamic device nodes [18:38] hm .. [18:38] would be nice if fstab could had been a bit less plain [18:39] fstab is not designed for what you are trying to do with it [18:39] and fstab is spcified in POSIX, so it is not going to change [18:39] like ..some if statements in it or such .. [18:39] .. because lots of apps depend on it being exactly the way it is [18:40] but [18:40] have you tried "auto" for filesystem? [18:41] i have this totally crazy idea that might work... [18:43] smica (n=smica@91.146.170.103) left irc: [18:44] nice scam. put a closure on the damn DVD case no one can open without breaking the disk so you have to buy another one [18:44] bastards] [18:44] damn [18:44] Anakin (i=Anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [18:45] errordeveloper: now that i have gone the long way and looked up the -t option in mount(8) i have come to the conclusion that you did, in fact, not even come close to having done your homework [18:46] errordeveloper: it specifies both that you can use "auto", but also that you can specify a list of filesystems.. eg: vfat,hfs,ext2,ext3,ext4 [18:48] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:48] gm152 (n=gm@d121-132-40.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:50] I have a little problem with keymap, the czech maps I chose during installation didn't work there...is it ok to have LANG=en_US and cz-lat2-prog.map ?? or do I have to have LANG=cs [18:50] display language and keyboard layout are not connected [18:51] after initial login there is standard us keyboard, but when I change terminal, the keyboard is mess [18:51] but yes, it is an old standing bug that the installer "forgets" the keyboard layout [18:51] so I guess that some fonts are missing [18:52] mib_h0riftm9: what happens if you manually call "loadkeys cz-lat2-prog"? [18:52] ..odd name for a keymab [18:52] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [18:54] mib_h0riftm9: if that works, you can chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.keymap and edit it to suit your needs [18:54] macavity: then the messed up keyboard is fixed, but behaves like us type [18:54] macavity: the rc.keymap is set for the cz-lat2-prog [18:54] :-/ [18:55] what happens if you just set it to cz-lat2? [18:56] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4386925.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:56] Dr_Code (n=Dr_Code@66-190-38-47.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:56] i can see in /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/ that there are a few cz-*.map files to choose from [18:56] gm152 (n=glen@d121-132-40.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:56] anyway, the set of czech key maps is weird, there should be at least us_cz_qwerty, which is the keymap we are usually using... [18:57] isnt that the one just called "cz"? [18:58] I am using Slackware 12.2 and am trying to install qbittorrent-1.3.1 When I run configure, I get "Error: need libboost!" I have since installed libboost, and get the same thing. I can navigate to /usr/local/include/boost-1_38/boost. I have also tried ./configure --with-libboost-inc=/usr/local/include/boost-1_38/boost Now I am currently compiling boost-jam to see if that gives me better mileage. Any suggestions would be a [18:58] ppreciated. [18:59] I tried every each of them, fand only the prog one works the way it should work, like the us type, but with the possibility of our special character in place of 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 buttons if you push them with shit :) [18:59] Action: NyteOwl thinks he has finally decided on a telephone [19:00] NyteOwl: which one ? the one i wanted is now "temporarily out of stock" .. I waited too long trying to decide and missed out on the best deal with cricket. [19:00] Sanyo Pro-700 [19:01] Dr_Code: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=boost&sv=12.2 [19:02] macavity: if I load the cz.map, it is qwertz, which sucks and moreover, the special chars as I talked about are messed up..which is probably some fonts problem [19:02] dtanner: I think I'll get a Pro-200 for my mother as her phone needs replacing as well [19:02] NyteOwl: I think it will be my next phone too. Hurry up and test it for me. ;) [19:02] mib_h0riftm9: are you using console fonts? [19:02] *shift [19:02] grabbing that now - thanks [19:02] mmnt [19:03] mib_h0riftm9: eg, when the installer asked you "do you want to try out some custom console fonts?", did you say yes? [19:03] chopp: the 700 or the 200? [19:03] Dr_Code: make sure you remove the boost from /usr/local/ again [19:03] NyteOwl: the pro-700 [19:03] Linus (n=Lee@85.139.11.98) joined ##slackware. [19:03] black or yello? :) [19:03] Dr_Code: make a habbit of using slackbuilds where you can [19:04] macavity: no, I said take defaults [19:04] The black is more "elegant" but the high visibility yellow is tempting just to be different :) [19:04] mib_h0riftm9: then i am out of ideas... [19:04] NyteOwl: eww yellow. I can't even imagine that. [19:04] imexius_ (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:05] chopp: http://www.bell.ca/shopping/en_CA_NS.Sanyo-PRO-700/97308.details click the yellow radio button [19:06] makes it look like it was made be deWalt heh [19:06] Nick change: Linus -> Slacklnx [19:06] NyteOwl: I know, I've had that page up since you first mentioned the pro-700, and I like it, just not yellow. [19:06] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] heh [19:07] it's actually not that bad in person. just ... different [19:07] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.37) left irc: [19:07] NyteOwl: I won't laugh if you get it, at least not outloud. [19:07] taubstumm (n=taubstum@ip-80-226-12-21.vodafone-net.de) left irc: Connection timed out [19:07] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:07] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:08] in an outdoor workplace setting it would be good for the added visibility if you dropped it but I'm going to go for black :) [19:09] NyteOwl: I agree, just giving you a hard time. I've actually got motorolla radios that are the same colour. [19:09] yup [19:09] whats the frequency kenneth? [19:11] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:13] looks like I'm going to have to cut this DVD case open :( [19:13] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl121-54.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [19:15] Slacklnx (n=Lee@85.139.11.98) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:18] macavity: how can I find what are the default fonts ? [19:18] it loads the default fonts, but I don't now which ones [19:22] Pig_Pen: FRS frequencies [19:22] motorola T9500 [19:24] motorola makes good quality stuff, as good as icom or yaseu [19:24] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl254-189.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:25] macavity: i'll try to use pmount for the job ..might be just the right thing ;)) [19:25] i have a Kenwood TM-731A that does 35 watts on FRS frequencies :D [19:26] nice radio, it does rx/tx from 136 to 174 & 400 to 500 [19:27] belesprit (n=belespri@70.15.43.94.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) left ##slackware. [19:30] Pig_Pen: I bought the motorolas and then shortly there after broke up with my ex, and she has the other one. I don't know anything about 2-way radios. [19:30] tm731a is a nice radio [19:30] better than a lot of the new stuff [19:30] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:31] mib_h0riftm9: i dont know [19:32] anyhow [19:32] good night gang [19:32] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: "...And thanks for all the patches!" [19:32] i got lucky snagging that radio NyteOwl, i bought it from an old lady for fifty dollars who's husband died, he was a ham [19:33] good deal [19:33] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:34] that's DIN size isn't it? [19:35] m4dscientist (n=hostile@141.85.0.66) left irc: Client Quit [19:35] Ruthven (n=mbutler@adsl-71-153-129-193.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:36] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:36] dam, even ebay is going to geocoding sheesh [19:37] DIN? [19:37] hba (n=hba@189.188.159.42) joined ##slackware. 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[19:39] about like your average cobra CB radio in size [19:39] Pig_Pen: wanna sell it? hehe [19:39] not a chance [19:40] it also does cross band repeat with a minor mod [19:40] i skipped that mod, but i did to the tx mod [19:40] mib_h0riftm9 (i=550d5535@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d4b0c45ad4e86fcf) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [19:42] tsk tsk, taking advantage of old ladies [19:43] if i did not buy it someone else would have [19:44] she still has an 80 foot antenna tower she wants removed from her back yard [19:45] with several antennas on it including a rotator under a 6 meter four element beam [19:46] Nick change: Mess[i]ah -> Emess [19:46] I have an intersting and irritating issue. I was trying to get tv=in working.. and now my monitor will not do 1440x900.. it has been running in that mode since i bought it . as soon as I "modprobe cx23885" poof , system locked up , had to hard reboot , no more 1440x900 [19:46] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [19:46] Dad` (n=Dad`@85-170-152-187.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [19:46] http://imagebin.org/38461 my beautiful desktop [19:47] i am not sure if it is the graphics chip or the monitor that is causing this after that unforntunate lockup [19:47] it has to be software releated, some sort of conflict with that module [19:48] if it was working before the modprobe, that is obviously your answer [19:49] indeed , but what did it do , and hw to fix the problem is the question , i blacklisted the module and have not used it since of course. still no 1440x900, same xorg.conf file , same X driver , etc etc. [19:51] try rmmod cx23885 and see if you can get back in to 1440x900 [19:51] X complains in the logs that 1440x900 is not a valid mode now. [19:51] Pig_Pen: i have not loaded the module since the lockup [19:51] hmm [19:52] gzamora (n=gabriel@pc-105-230-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:52] odd [19:52] very [19:54] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-98-202-50-242.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:54] I am getting messages from the monitor popping up now "input not valid" when i try and run 1440x900 now. I am wiondering if it borked the monitor. i may try and unplug it for a few nimutes and see , I can run 1280x960 or 1280x1024 but not 1440x900 anymore. [19:54] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:55] minutes* [19:55] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. 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[20:20] spmd (i=N95@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [20:20] spmd (i=N95@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:21] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:24] well isn't edman007|work the father? I remember that trip you made. ;) [20:24] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [20:25] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-31-222.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:29] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-98-202-50-242.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving." [20:33] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:33] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.114) joined ##slackware. [20:36] cap (n=cap@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [20:36] What's the command to configure xorg? [20:36] Action: edman007|work slaps chopp [20:36] X -configure [20:37] The autom yea that's it [20:37] ananke: tnx [20:37] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] nix_chix0r, did you tell your parents yet? [20:37] are you planing to introduce em in 5 years? [20:38] "oh, btw, mom, dad, i had a kid, he is 25" [20:38] cap (n=cap@63.149.173.1) left irc: Client Quit [20:41] edman007|work: you have to admit that would be funny [20:41] for who? [20:42] 'for whom' :) [20:42] yeah yeah :) [20:42] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-220-104.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:43] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-98-202-50-242.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:43] chopp: for me [20:43] aceofspades19, all but nix_chix0r and her family (well its funny for some of her family i suppose, depends on how close they are) [20:44] edman007|work: if I was in her family I would laugh [20:44] but I laugh at everything [20:44] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-98-202-50-242.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:45] aceofspades19, yes, depends on the person in that case, i would probably laugh too... [20:47] kevman (n=kevin@ool-44c7354e.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:47] what would people suggest for centerlized password databases? [20:47] for ssh [20:48] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-21.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:49] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:51] /etc/shadow [20:51] Thurin1 (n=jjk@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:55] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" 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[21:27] Solixa (n=Hypersta@24-207-170-47.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:28] is there a channel for OS X on this server? sorry unrelated, friend needs help with os x, i run slack. [21:28] #macosx [21:28] #macosx [21:28] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:29] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:30] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [21:31] Thanks [21:31] hah edman007 no my parents are comming here next month [21:36] limac (n=limac@ool-44c1ff82.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:36] edman007, guess you'll just have to buy off the rest of it [21:36] :P [21:39] raela|alt (n=raela@205.133.96.77) joined ##slackware. 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[22:21] greetings, Slackers [22:23] tom__ (n=tom@cpc1-cove9-0-0-cust630.brhm.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:23] raela|alt (n=raela@205.133.96.77) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:25] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:26] hola! D [22:26] :D [22:26] what's snoo? [22:26] What's the name of the new network manager? [22:26] ? [22:27] wicd? [22:27] or the plasmoid? [22:27] gabriel: wicd Yes Tnx [22:28] ;) [22:28] agentc0re: [22:28] hola [22:28] :D [22:29] It's like the only word i know. [22:29] I speak more spanglish than i do spanish :P [22:29] diazepan (i=1000@189.124.168.250) joined ##slackware. [22:29] hahaha [22:29] Hola comer e'star :P [22:29] "Hola como estan?" [22:30] "hello how are you" [22:30] coma [22:30] Heh, ya i know. I do it more or less to be funny. It's just not as funny in an irc chat room. [22:30] comer = eat [22:30] HAHA, sweet. [22:30] "hello, I eat you"? [22:30] comer el diablo [22:30] hahhaha [22:31] wait... i don't know how to say 'my' [22:31] comer mis zapatos! [22:31] mi [22:31] como = how = eat [22:31] gabriel: I eat, in particular. [22:31] comer mi el diablo = eat my devil? [22:32] LOL, I eat my devil.. Great.... [22:32] how do you say "shorts" then? [22:32] Como mi diablo == I eat my devil. [22:32] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:32] Comes mi diablo == You eat my devil. [22:32] (guess I could play simpsons DVD with spanish soundtrack if I want to know how to say "eat my shorts") [22:32] We know you do :P [22:32] tu madré [22:33] eat my shorts = comete mis pantaloncillos [22:33] rworkman: doesn't that mean "stab me with a knife now"? [22:33] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:33] anybody like to have a slackware phone? [22:33] slackware phone? [22:33] gabriel: doesn't really have the same ring as it does in english I guess [22:33] Urchlay: Comes mi cortes. [22:33] gtf I would [22:33] openmoko is a linux dev platform using arm [22:33] Well, Comete mis cortes. [22:33] jkwood: cortes is what? one of those conquistador guys? [22:34] Ah, so comete wouldn't be possessive. Correct? It seems like como and comer both would mean that it is used to specify someone. [22:34] Cortez was a conquistador. cortes are shorts. [22:34] oh, right, shorts.. "Comete mis cortes!" [22:34] anyone using slamd64? [22:34] cap Me. [22:34] cap: Everyone in #slamd64. [22:34] heh [22:34] lol [22:34] I've got a friend interested in trying it. [22:34] agentc0re: how do you like it? [22:35] jkwood: Tnx [22:35] cap it's slackware. [22:35] agentc0re: ha ha Yea ok... [22:35] cap both are the same, just it's 64bit. there's really no difference between the two. [22:35] number0 (n=chatzill@222.252.28.202) joined ##slackware. [22:35] legis (n=jaood@unaffiliated/legis) joined ##slackware. [22:35] rworkman: =p [22:36] agentc0re: So, you highly recommend it? Right? [22:36] Action: Urchlay tries to figure out how to type one of those upside-down exclamation points [22:36] cap: I've been using Slamd64 since before it was actually released stable [22:36] Point of contention: Slamd64 is NOT Slackware. [22:36] what we like to call the "Coaster Series" of Slamd64's history ;) [22:37] it's not slackware, but it "feels like slackware" [22:37] That's not to say that it isn't a good distribution. That's not to say that it isn't 64bit <3 [22:37] actually I think my motto goes "Its not Slackware, but damn it, It should be!" [22:37] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:37] :) [22:37] surly a 64 bit slackware is coming [22:37] slaxxin: don't count on it anytime soon [22:37] Who's surly? [22:37] eh, isn't s/390 64-bit? :) [22:38] Urchlay: Different arch [22:38] yeah I know [22:38] s/360 isn't going to run on x86_64 ;) [22:38] well yeah [22:38] and older than dodo turds. [22:38] mbhayes: Pretty smooth sailing now? [22:38] s/390.. damn lag [22:38] but he said 64-bit, not x86_64 :) [22:38] cap: oh yes [22:38] rworkman: Eh that's just a technicality :P You knew what i ment :) (i think). [22:38] cap: Its very stable. [22:38] cap: I like it enough to help develop it. Does that tell you anything? [22:39] mbhayes: Sounds like a good project for next weekend. [22:39] cap: and fred follows slackware release schedule.. or at least as close as he can.. [22:39] jkwood: Yes... [22:39] agentc0re: Yes, *I* know. Others (particularly the ones *asking* the questions) may not. [22:39] Thre are a few things here and there that delay it, usually arch specific patches he has to either a) wait on from upstream or b) find something that will work that will eventually be in upstream source [22:39] tntslack (n=will@adsl54-246.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:39] Urchlay: .. There's a difference between "64bit" and x86_64? I have always thought they were referenced as the same. [22:40] eh [22:40] Solaris is 64bit iirc [22:40] what else is out there that's 64bit.. [22:40] agentc0re: 64-bit is the class, x86_64 is an instance of it [22:40] arch [22:40] its the arch of it [22:40] On a different note, there was a bit of discussion here last night about a Slackware equivalent of Debian's "acpi-support" package. I've looked over that Debian package, spent a bit of time on it, and here's the conclusion: [22:41] rworkman: its debian.. and don't do it? [22:41] mbhayes: was trying to speak OO-speak [22:41] Urchlay: hah [22:41] 1) No fscking way will a kludgefest like that ever be in Slackware if I have any say in the matter. [22:41] heh. [22:41] reference my comment above ;) [22:41] 2) Seriously, it's unmaintainable. I feel genuinely sorry for the maintainer. Lots of duplication of what's in other upstream projects. [22:42] its debian.. what do you expect? [22:42] Perhaps :) [22:42] I flinch in #postfix everytime someone comes in wantin ghelp with a Debian-based distro [22:42] I literrally run for the border [22:42] mbhayes: good way to get excercise? [22:42] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) left irc: "êîãäà ÿ óìåð íåáûëî íèêîãî, êòî áû ýòî îïðîâåðã" [22:42] aye [22:43] Lots of the unmaintainability comes from what appears to be them supporting "typical laptop functions" well before pm-utils and friends were available and/or stable. [22:43] At this point, the comments in there indicate that they'd love ot move forward, but they can't for fear of breaking existing setups. [22:43] Urchlay: debian hacked postfix to accept /etc/mailname as a parameter.. and that fscks so much stuff up [22:44] rworkman: I thought breaking stuff was what -unstable was for, in the debian world? [22:44] hehe they just released 5.0 to [22:44] o [22:44] Urchlay: Who knows? Maybe they'll do that in the next cycle. [22:44] I guess we'll see the results of that in 2013. [22:44] heh [22:44] hehe yah [22:44] 5.0 was 22months in the making [22:45] It really is so beyond me why other distro's do stupid shit like that mbhayes. [22:45] That's like.. polishing a turd for 22months.. then painting it.. and calling it an easter egg [22:45] sardior (n=sardior@24.121.232.200) joined ##slackware. [22:45] agentc0re: they claim it makes maintanence easier.. bzzt wrong [22:45] WRT custom distro-specific changes... well, that's not necessarily bad. What's bad is not making it *EXPLICITLY* clear. [22:45] you can't update postfix from source with those h acks in it [22:45] it fails horrible [22:46] Because the users wanting support for postfix have no idea how utterly stupid they sound when they refer to /etc/mailname. [22:46] Oh they do [22:46] trust me.. rob0 and I see to that ;) [22:46] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:46] Well, not before you tell them. ;-) [22:46] and shasta [22:46] heh [22:46] its a bad idea [22:46] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [22:47] I always to them "Uninstall the debian crap.. rebuild from source.. trust me.. you'll be MUCH happier" [22:47] We have the same thing in #iptables with the dreaded "RH-FIREWALL-1" [22:47] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:47] rworkman: haha [22:47] haha, i should join the postfix channel when i am at work then. I wanna see that. [22:47] man... you would love some of the stuff we see... [22:47] where does /etc/mailname come from? not in slackware apparently... [22:47] its been a noob fest lately... literally people that have no $clue at all installing mail servers.... its scary [22:47] Urchlay: debian [22:47] well rworkman maybe you should be se-linux in slackware :P [22:47] is it just a debianism, like calling xterm "x-terminal-emulator"? [22:47] its a debian-specific hack [22:47] Urchlay: it's Debian specific. It's not even clear what it means. [22:48] s/be/put [22:48] its hacked as the $myhostname var [22:48] iirc [22:48] gotcha. Part of the reason I never could stand debian [22:48] Right. Because "mailname" is SO much clearer than "$myhostname" in /etc/postfix/main.cf [22:48] hehe [22:48] sheesh [22:48] Just read the damn manual for crying out loud... [22:49] Is that all mailname does for them? [22:49] wtf. [22:49] It TELLS you in there what the hell $myhostname is lol [22:49] adrenaline_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:49] agentc0re: afaict.. yes [22:49] Omg. [22:49] how fucking stupid. [22:49] preaching to the choir man [22:49] btw.. purchased my family an xbox 360 this weekend [22:49] did they also hack up their exim and/or sendmail packages the same way? [22:49] Action: jkwood choirs mbhayes' preach [22:50] my daughter and I haven't been off the damn thing until she went to bed lol [22:50] Urchlay: no idea [22:50] if they were going to go that far to do something stupid they should have just done it every variable.. :P [22:50] I can imagine someone thinking it's a good idea to create a config file /etc/mailname, and hack all the MTAs to use it [22:50] not that *I* think it's a good idea [22:50] agentc0re: I installed a mailserver on an ubuntu box.. first thing I did was rip all the mail related stuff out.. and do everything from source... took a lot more time to finish up.. but the box runs so much nicer [22:51] Ohh mbhayes I totally recommend using ushare so you can use your xbox as a htpc. I do that and download tv shows i miss so i don't have to watch them from my pc. [22:51] damn thin gwanted me to use courier.. blech [22:51] but I can imagine some well-intentioned meddler thinking it's a good idea [22:51] agentc0re: I have Dish Network + DVR.. I'm good ;) [22:51] I ended up with the Pro version.. 249 bucks :) [22:51] Circuit City "Going out of Business" special lol [22:51] mbhayes: Very cool. Just thought i'd mention it though. it is nice to stream whatever from your pc to the xbox. [22:52] aye [22:52] mbhayes: are they one of those stores that's been "going out of business" for 10 years now? [22:52] I was already looking at how to upgrade the drive without paying MS's BS costs hehe [22:52] Urchlay: nope [22:52] Urchlay: they will more than likely be shuttin' the doors March 1st [22:52] Urchlay: No, just with in the last month or two i think. [22:52] ah. I'm thinking mostly of furniture stores that do that [22:52] March 31st. [22:52] they were nearly cleaned out.. only had 5 xbox 360's left [22:53] what, all the circuit city locations are closing? nice. [22:53] everyone is like "get the elite version!" pfft.. the only diff with it and the pro is the 120GB drive and you get the HDMI cable.. so what lol [22:53] Urchlay: in the US.. the ones in Canada are staying open [22:53] Urchlay: Not nice. My flatmate works there. [22:53] jkwood: oh, bummer. I've just had some bad experiences with them... [22:53] legis (n=jaood@unaffiliated/legis) left irc: "leaving" [22:53] brb.. smoke time and need to check on my daughter [22:54] Urchlay: why do you think they are going out of business :P [22:54] plus I had a friend who worked there, low-level management, basically got his soul crushed by the place [22:55] Urchlay: Find me a business that doesn't make mistakes, and I'll show you a business that buries them. [22:58] heh. Find me a business (or business exec type person) who admits to ever making a mistake, and I'll be impressed [23:00] Action: Urchlay has been fired before, for admitting to a customer that they'd found a bug in some code... [23:00] allorder (n=allorder@unaffiliated/allorder) joined ##slackware. [23:00] allorder (n=allorder@unaffiliated/allorder) left ##slackware. [23:03] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:03] circuit city used to be a nice place [23:03] Then I think Greed took over. [23:03] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.142.208) joined ##slackware. [23:04] I believe upper management was the problem. [23:04] could be [23:05] firedog services didn't help them either ;) [23:05] That killed their business [23:05] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.79) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:05] Those techs were not qualified to work on a toaster.. much less a computer [23:05] everywhere I've gone or had experience or discussed others experience it is always the same.. upper management is fubar [23:05] firedog? their version of geeksquad? bleh [23:06] but who hired the techs [23:06] who cares? [23:06] fati (n=brian@71.238.167.164) joined ##slackware. [23:06] Know how many PCs I've fixed that they "fixed" ? [23:06] mbhayes: the real question is, who decided to try to hire techs, but pay them like fry cooks? [23:06] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [23:07] Urchaly... yes [23:07] Action: mbhayes shrugs [23:07] You get what you pay for.. that's for sure [23:07] anyone with any real skill would either never take that job, or else would quit ASAP if they took it from desperation [23:07] We had a few of them apply where I work... hehe.. applications never made it past me [23:08] I saw their experience.. and their ONLY experience was firedog sservices... and that was their big point.. no education at all in I.T. Tossed 'em. [23:09] sardior (n=sardior@24.121.232.200) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:10] I would have worked there, but on my terms. Let me fix things the right way, or I'd leave. [23:10] A little late for that, though. [23:10] heh [23:10] jkwood: you probably wouldn't have lasted a week (and that's a good thing) [23:10] If they wanted tru services.. pay people what they ar eworth and get good talent in there [23:11] they get in trouble if they spent more than X amount of time on any one issue (whether or not it's something that can actually be diagnosed/fixed in that amount of time) [23:12] heh [23:12] same deal as phone support, graded on turnaround time and nothing else [23:12] Yeah they were all about "turn-a-round" [23:12] they wanted high turn-a-round for incoming clients.. numbers meant money [23:12] Problem was.. most peole were getting ripped off [23:13] problem is, most people who get ripped off, don't even complain about it [23:13] I knew one guy.. that took hist stuff in thre.. .. he md5sum'd all his personal files that they shouldn't touch.. GPG encrypted them and everything.. just to be safe lol [23:14] P2E (n=tgz@c-98-244-84-118.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:14] mbhayes: WTF was he doing taking his stuff there? [23:14] Anyone who knows how to find md5sums and gpg encrypt things should NOT need firedog. [23:15] rworkman: I think he was "testing" them [23:15] especially if there were files he wanted to keep? "nuke and pave" is SOP at places like that [23:15] I never asked... the guy was smart enough to do it himself.. I think he was just fscking with them honestly [23:15] That would make more sense [23:15] i wish i had time and money to waste :) [23:15] Urchlay, wrong! first they find the pr0n, then nuke and pave [23:15] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: "[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.1-final for the Microsoft Xbox today!" [23:15] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [23:16] tank-man: he never got charged... they couldn't fix the "problem" [23:16] he argued long enough that they let him go without payment. [23:16] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:16] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [23:16] chazbro (n=chatzill@adsl-70-234-160-58.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] edman007: do they actually do a better job for you, if they find lots of good pr0n? [23:17] I've often considered setting up a brand new Slackware installation, setting a password that I "forget," and then taking it to a local shop just to see how they react. [23:17] woops [23:17] rworkman: the more legit type of place will probably say "we don't do Linux" [23:18] the less legit places, also don't do Linux, but they'll happily pretend to know WTF they're doing [23:18] Who says I'll tell them it's linux? I'll have a nice {k,g,something}dm running :) [23:18] are you all in a serious conference? [23:19] Yes. Very serious. [23:19] Bob is sick. [23:19] and I'm out of beer. [23:19] lol [23:19] Oh shit! [23:19] It's not funny. [23:19] Action: agentc0re hides [23:19] rworkman: KDE 4 with a Vista background? [23:19] jkwood: even better! [23:19] :-P gross [23:20] Better yet, use fluxbox and tell them you installed bblean and can't remove it. :P [23:20] Action: chazbro blows chunks [23:20] chazbro: I'll assume you have a question or some such. Otherwise, are you taking a survey to find out which, if any, IRC channels have something other than mindless chatter? [23:20] and that bblean removed your start button and everything is broke!!! [23:21] fluxbox is for the leet [23:21] your in conference mode... but it seems that you are in idle chatter... [23:21] what... is conference mode, exactly? [23:21] Urchlay, probably, i saw something where a porn actress went to circuit city to fix her laptop, they offered her free in home service... [23:21] 3 way call? [23:21] Urchlay: it's just like idle chatter, but we confer instead of chat. [23:21] edman007: wouldn't you service her in her home for free? [23:22] Urchlay: see, I'm conferring with edman007. [23:22] yes... [23:22] bleah. The only porn star I ever met in person, did *not* look so great IRL [23:22] edman007, i bet it works [23:22] lol.. super serious conference [23:22] Urchlay: that's bad luck. [23:22] Urchlay, anyways, for windows computers, i have stopped fixing windows for the most part, either its run adware or reinstall, nothing else is worth it [23:23] i still have my christmas tree up ha [23:23] nix_chix0r: LOL [23:23] nix_chix0r, we didn't get an xmas tree this year :P [23:23] i was just staring at it [23:23] nix_chix0r: please tell me it's not a *real* tree. [23:23] I hope it's a real tree so it's nothing but bare twigs. [23:23] haha [23:23] Ruthven (n=mbutler@adsl-71-153-129-193.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving." [23:23] hahah [23:23] naw we roll with the artificial [23:23] for once we put ours up right around the 1st week in Jan. [23:23] Action: edman007 has never had a fake tree [23:24] got enough real ones surrounding me [23:24] jkwood: http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm [23:24] chazbro: really? That when we take ours down. [23:24] edman007: there are about 2 people left for whom I'll fix windows PCs (my mom, and her best friend who actually bought a windows box from me) [23:24] NaCly: Exacly. [23:24] oh boy hes back with arbys <3 hes my hero [23:24] lol... oops.. i meant we take it down then [23:24] :) [23:24] nix_chix0r, why don't you get a live tree? [23:24] we normally wait til feb. [23:25] evo- (n=evo@p4FD4D93E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [23:25] evo- (n=evo@p4FD4D93E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:25] i love our Charlie Brown Christmas Tree [23:25] lil 4' tree [23:25] Heheh. [23:25] Dwarf tree. [23:25] bonsai xmas tree? [23:25] edman007, because i live in the woods and don't need to cut down a tree [23:26] have to put green garland on it to fatten it up every year [23:26] Urchlay, heh, last one i tried to fix, i gave up when i found dell sold them a 2.5Ghz P4 with XP and 256M ram... [23:26] nix_chix0r: Kill a tree, save a baby. :P [23:26] i dont want to be sweeping up pineneedles [23:26] nix_chix0r, so? [23:26] edman007, so it's just stupid:P [23:26] edman007: ugh. No way to "fix" that, it was broken by design [23:26] for me its a 5 minute drive to the xmas tree farm [23:26] good reason for not having a real tree... fire hazard [23:27] major fire hazard [23:27] alright back to bed i go:| [23:27] ...which is why we only have the lights on when we are in the room [23:27] chazbro: fake trees can melt ;) [23:27] who ever thought of making a bedroom with out grounded outlets is gay [23:27] cant plug laptop in [23:27] NaCly, they have to be rated to not burn ;) [23:28] i just hate the new trees... all are f***ing pre-lit [23:28] nix_chix0r, replace the outlets, thats what i did [23:28] Use LED lights. [23:28] I got those this year, they are awesome. [23:28] edman007, i think there is more to it than just swaping the outlets [23:28] nix_chix0r, and where do you get a laptop that needs to be grounded? [23:28] i'm not an electrician [23:28] And you can hook up 100's in series. [23:28] edman007, power adapter is 3prong [23:28] piss me off.. they are junk [23:28] Oh, I wasn't really out of beer. I'm enjoying a Newcastle. :) [23:29] Action: chazbro doesnt drink [23:29] Order is restored to the universe! [23:29] Sorry. [23:29] agentc0re: if one burns out, can you "fix" it with a piece of tin foil, like old style xmas lights? [23:29] i have a 20foot extention cord plugged into the bathroom so i can watch tv in there. he moved the tv again:D [23:29] baibai [23:29] Urchlay: Heh, i didn't even know you could do that with old style lights. But i doubt it. [23:29] nix_chix0r, it will work if you just swap it, to do it right you have to ground it, usually your house will have grounded conduits and you just screw a wire to that (my house was built in the 70s, it had ground wires in there) [23:29] agentc0re: it's not really a good idea... [23:29] sooooo... im guessing this isn't a tech support irc then? [23:30] Doesn't sound like it. [23:30] haha. [23:30] It can be. [23:30] edman007, this house was built in the 30s [23:30] nix_chix0r, mainly depends on the laws that were in place when the house was built [23:30] chazbro: it might be, if someone asks a good tech question... [23:30] not that i need one [23:30] it is; slackware just rarely has problems :) [23:30] anybody ever used a java web start app before? [23:30] we just wait for silly users to come in and tell us how they break things [23:30] The people running it on the other hand.. [23:31] Action: chazbro agrees with thrice' [23:31] nix_chix0r, are the wirers in metal conduits with metal break out boxes? if it is you just ground the conduit and stick a screw in the break out box [23:31] thrice`: You mean all of us that are chit chatting? :P [23:32] chazbro: java web start app on slackware? [23:32] yep [23:32] thought that was for installing solaris [23:32] i was running firefox.... [23:32] I use one all the time, it's how i connect into work from home. [23:32] and there is this addon cross ftp [23:33] its alright.. cant complain [23:33] just wondered if there are more apps like this? [23:34] hm, what makes a java app a "web start" app? [23:34] diazepan (i=1000@189.124.168.250) left irc: "Leaving" [23:34] it uses javaws instead of java [23:35] and the extension [23:35] .jnlp [23:35] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:35] hm, in that case I know nothing about it at all :) [23:36] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [23:36] this crossftp app... looks like its styled in the older apple mac style [23:37] (seems like when I installed solaris 8 a long time ago, "web start" was an option for the installer, like you'd install on a headless sun box and control the installer from a web browser) [23:37] using javaws to run your .jnlp files are exactly how you should do it. :) [23:38] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.114) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [23:38] yeah agentc0re... thats how im running it [23:39] but my question: are there any other java web start apps out there... done searched google [23:39] Urchlay, oh, and i found the proof that pr0n gets you better service -> http://consumerist.com/277561/geek-squad-hatched-plot-to-harvest-porn-from-pornstar-jasmine-greys-harddrive-days-before-she-died-in-car-crash [23:39] its a bit hit and miss [23:40] Ya, tons. I use one myself. But if you don't use it, whats the point of even caring that others exist? [23:40] chazbro: I don't think javaws ever took off like Sun wanted it to. [23:41] i always like seeing other apps [23:41] i may have like 4 browsers...or is it 5 [23:42] one app for one thing isnt enough for me [23:42] i even get the lite apps [23:43] http://failblog.org/2009/02/15/titanic-fail-2/ HAHA, I think that's spook in the back trying to start the engine :P [23:43] number0 (n=chatzill@222.252.28.202) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:43] whats the app that you use agentc0re? [23:44] I use Untangle firewall and they have an app called Remote Access that uses it. It basically runs RDP in java. [23:44] edman007: nice story [23:45] oh... yeah.. remote access [23:45] Urchlay, yea.. [23:45] anyways, i'm going, bye [23:45] THAT app i never touch [23:45] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:45] later edman [23:45] adios, edman [23:46] mth- (i=1000@190-95-105-29.bk22-dsl.surnet.cl) joined ##slackware. [23:46] my wife has win xp... and im fighting her on switching [23:47] we go round and round all the time... cus im the sys admin for the house... and she refuses to switch to slackware [23:47] get divorciated [23:47] :D [23:47] skid the bitch. :D [23:48] aint happening [23:48] don't mind me, I'm bitter [23:48] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.142.208) left irc: "leaving" [23:49] i told her... if she doesnt switch by the time win xp support goes... 2014... im switching her anyway [23:49] hohohoh [23:49] cap (n=cap@63.149.173.1) left irc: "leaving" [23:49] install VirtualBox, and break her in slow. [23:50] her pc is a bit slow for that [23:51] she has the fastest pc in the house... cpu:1Ghz [23:51] RAM:256mb [23:52] good excuse to buy some ram... [23:52] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [23:52] stop spending money in your wife and buy a new pc :D [23:52] money isnt available [23:53] we are sooooooo f***ing tight right now [23:53] are you from USA? [23:53] yep [23:53] haam [23:53] subprime crisis? [23:53] no fixed income [23:53] total gov't subsidy [23:54] no earned income [23:54] auhm [23:54] i'm from Chile [23:54] Ether_Man (i=Ether_Ma@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:54] Ether_Man_ (i=Ether_Ma@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [23:54] _ohm (n=nava@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [23:54] Nick change: Ether_Man_ -> Ether_Man [23:54] hows life down in Chile? [23:55] oklahoma, USA here [23:55] these okies are just plain dumb [23:55] well now crisis has come to chile but we are good to avoid [23:55] i call this state the land of the idiots [23:56] Aysen, Patagonia - Chile here [23:56] you know this last election we just had? [23:56] pirving (n=jdhog@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:56] frullet (n=hooch@124-171-59-161.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:56] yes [23:56] Obama [23:56] great discurse [23:56] ok, got a problem boys...I got a driver netmw245.inf and I can't remove the driver. I've uninstalled ndiswrapper, same problem [23:56] the republican that was running... well oklahoma voted him higher than his own home state [23:57] pirving: did you read the ndiswrapper docs? [23:57] McCain [23:57] yep.... [23:57] haaap [23:57] yes, they sugguest that I use the ndiswrapper -r command [23:57] it doesn't work [23:57] and thats ends my political conversation now [23:57] any ideas? [23:57] sorry all [23:57] ahhh i understand [23:57] kalasman1en (n=kalasman@h-7-189.A146.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [23:57] pirving: what happens? How does it "doesn't work" ? [23:58] i didn't have the sys file present when loading it [23:58] so it fudged [23:58] kalasmannen (n=kalasman@h-7-189.A146.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:58] I don't want to have to re install slackware [23:58] well, chazbro may you can help me [23:58] shal we talk in PM? [23:58] i have an issue with video-intel or mesa [23:59] pirving: I farted, and I don't want to have to rebuild my dog's feeding station. [23:59] pirving: yes, I know that those two aren't related. That was the point. [23:59] they are, the inf file depended on the sys file it said so in the error [23:59] pirving: give me a few minutes to build ndiswrapper so that I have some idea of what's supposed to be happending. [00:00] --- Mon Feb 16 2009