[00:00] MadMoney, probably a good course...if you put a little distance, the chances of you getting hit with all the pellets is slim [00:00] t0f (i=1000@wlbr-208-103-146-93.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) left irc: [00:00] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:00] I shall watch warehouse13 now [00:00] phillipsm (n=IceChat7@173-19-56-54.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Easy as 3.14159265358979323846..." [00:00] well I can actually claim that I've been shot at with a 12 gauge....anyone else :P [00:00] chopp: thankfully, no [00:00] rocksalt does not count. [00:00] chopp, got hit with a salt round for playing with the wrong farmer's daughter [00:01] hahahahaha [00:01] It was still worth it. [00:01] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:01] haha....well you're close, but I'll just leave it at that [00:01] MadMoney, she wasn't THAT good in bed [00:01] chopp, cutters or beanbag? [00:01] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-6-172.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:02] http://zip.4chan.org/k/src/1247618115364.jpg [00:03] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-76-232.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:03] MakubeX (i=horas@my.barbie.wears.no-panties.org) left irc: "changing servers" [00:04] MakubeX (i=horas@my.barbie.wears.no-panties.org) joined ##slackware. [00:04] http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=38485857 - That's gotta hurt. [00:04] .22 is commonly used in mobhits 2 taps 1 to the head 1 to the heart [00:05] AnonymousRednek: I don't know what cutters, or beanbag is, but it was a regular shotgun load, and it was a repo job we'll say [00:05] chopp, cutters is rock salt and glass shards [00:05] ahhhhh, nasty [00:05] Sounds like what my driveway is made out of. [00:05] what about a rubber bullet [00:06] beanbag is a less than lethal police round [00:06] either way, it's made to hurt, but not kill [00:06] yeah [00:06] I never did figure out what happened to my '/' ext4 partition [00:06] Car repo is a good job. You can made money at that. [00:06] rebooting [00:06] if you live [00:06] and you get to steal cars legally! [00:07] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.203.200.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:07] what is not good about that job [00:07] I would do it but I can't drive [00:07] a friend of mine got shot repoing on an indian reservation, they ended up just leting them have the car [00:07] dhw: The only ones losing money are the finance company after they have to sell the car at 70% of what is owed. [00:07] damn them seizures [00:08] TriniTux (n=clayton@cuscon127569.tstt.net.tt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:08] twolf: Native American reservation: 1 [00:08] I am at stage 2 of the module compiling [00:08] -_- [00:08] hrm... [00:08] brb [00:08] kernel panic not syncing no init found.... damn it [00:09] MadMoney: I got a lot of native friends, they all call themselves indians and don't take offense to anyone else calling them that, sorry if I offended you [00:09] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [00:10] Dominian: Try init=/bin/sh [00:11] nah.. didn't do it [00:11] twolf: I think the word is pretty ingrained in our colloquial language, so it isn't a big deal. [00:11] Dominian: Well, you need to have a root file system mounted. [00:11] MadMoney: yeah I know [00:11] initrd is suppose to do that. [00:11] I don't use initrd [00:12] Or the kernel can mount root, I guess. [00:13] I know.. [00:13] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.203.200.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:13] Good luck then... [00:13] Hey gtl [00:13] hey [00:13] sup, fire|bird ? [00:14] gtl: nothing much, just building a kernel. you? [00:14] fun fun fun! [00:14] hehe [00:14] gtl: I'm building for speed this time. :) [00:14] MadMoney: the issue was caused by my own stupidity really [00:15] trying to get bluetooth to work while I install windows7 on my old laptop which I'm giving to my father [00:15] Dominian: hehe, it happens. :) [00:15] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:15] noobfarm.org loading for anyone yet? [00:15] speed's always a great issue :) [00:15] Dominian: nope [00:15] try www.noobfarm.org [00:16] Dominian: yeah, just did for me. took a bit, but yeah. [00:16] After going to a nimp virus/shock site/hijack URL someone posted in #freenode, I am a bit apprehensive about trying random URLs. [00:16] k.. dns is propogating still.. looks like cache [00:17] < tjfontaine> MARK THE DATE AND TIME BITCHES [00:17] oops...yup Dominian it's working [00:17] Eric S. Raymond is tjfontaine. [00:17] chopp: well www and noobfarm.org should both work [00:17] not sure why the other one isn'tworking yet [00:17] where would the runtime libs and devel headers be in the 32-bit compatibility libs? [00:17] but I migrated it to my linode for righ tnow until I can get the main vps back up [00:17] dchmelik: you need to pull them from the slamd64 repo.. wait one [00:18] I think I have them all [00:18] I just do not know which folders they are in or what files they are [00:18] just noobfarm.org loads here too. [00:18] what's rworkman's site? [00:18] gtl: rlworkman.net [00:18] fire|bird: good [00:18] rlworkman.net [00:18] thanks [00:19] Dominian: I had the same problem for a bit on my linode, but you also know what you're doing with this stuff :P [00:19] TwinReverb@noobfarm hasn't a future in math. [00:19] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [00:20] I wonder if I should install all the 32-bit compatibility packages or if the ones I need (for WINE) are just a few. It seems there are quite a lot. [00:20] missing a few quotes since the migration Dominian? [00:21] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:21] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:21] Dominian, still running an amd s939 setup? [00:26] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@72.44.171.82) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:27] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere." [00:27] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:28] Dominian: I do not know if you are still looking for the slamd64 repo URL, but I installed everything I got from it (everything I think) and WINE will still not build.... [00:29] guys, i'm trying to install a while now BT on my lappy [00:29] got kdebluetooth4 [00:29] it uses cmake, but also asks for bluez4+ [00:29] bluez in -current is 3.x [00:30] slackydude must be a regular here. [00:30] guess what [00:31] gtl: you're screwed! [00:31] Fenix-Dark: yeah [00:31] dchmelik: building wine is a lost cause... get the package from winehq.. it'll work much more easily [00:31] Dominian, want a s939 opteron 165? [00:31] antiwire, thanks for the encouragement [00:32] Fenix-Dark: heh.. wife will kill me if I get more parts.. but thanks :) [00:32] the latest slackware WINE package is something like 10.2 [00:32] is there a wine support channel on freenode? [00:33] yes, winehq [00:33] gtl: You'll need to create you own replacement builds for bluez4 as well as create a cmake based build script for kdebluetooth [00:33] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-76-232.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:34] hmm... it's not so bad, then [00:34] Dominian, well i just got a new cpu/mobo/ram set for my birthday and will be getting rid of a motherboard and opteron 165, i have a place for the ram (there is always a computer which needs more ram), but if you want the cpu you just give me your shipping address and its yours [00:34] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-76-232.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:35] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-76-232.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:35] Why do we always use -fPIC when compiling for 64bit? [00:35] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-76-232.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:35] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-76-232.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:35] Read the gcc docs [00:35] Fenix-Dark: Not sure if my board will take that.. is it dual core or something? [00:35] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-76-232.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:36] yup, it should, but with a bios update first [00:36] dchmelik: thanks, I was trying ##wine [00:36] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@173-18-58-139.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [00:36] It's for Position Independent Code [00:36] Motoko-chan, i just did, but only explicitly said it makes a difference on m68k, PowerPC, and SPARC [00:36] Nick change: fire|bird -> Guest42627 [00:36] Fenix-Dark: well the board I have.. I got from drijen.. and its running a dual core athlon 3800+ or something.. can'tcheck.. puter is down [00:37] It also is needed for x86_64 it seems [00:37] Nick change: Guest42627 -> fire|bird [00:37] Dominian, ah ok, wouldn't be a huge upgrade from that [00:38] k [00:39] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Client Quit [00:39] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@173-18-58-139.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [00:41] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [00:47] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere." [00:49] I'm going to the beach tomorrow with a pretty girl and there isn't even surf [00:50] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@173-18-58-139.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [00:53] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@72.44.171.82) joined ##slackware. [00:56] slKIvs (n=ivan@174.92.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. 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[01:20] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: Client Quit [01:20] tank-man: and a gf that can't spell, or is just really, really, mad and doesn't care. :P [01:20] clueless seller [01:20] or, a blonde. :) [01:21] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.203.200.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [01:22] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:24] Nick change: buffer -> init[1] [01:24] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere." [01:28] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@173-18-58-139.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. 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[01:41] i'm eating and adding a new client [01:42] then here is a little excerpt [01:42] "Simultaneously, his remains were expelled through the narrow trunk opening left by the jammed chamber door, less than 60 centimeters (24 inches) in diameter." [01:42] ew? [01:42] i'm eating you turd [01:43] in that case, here is a little more "All of his thoracic and abdominal organs, and even his thoracic spine were ejected, as were all of his limbs." [01:44] I was reading about explosive decompression situations in aircraft and that diving bell situation came up [01:44] heh [01:45] it says that the chamber went from '...nine atmospheres to one in a fraction of a second' [01:45] that sucks, literally [01:46] paznak (n=paznak@dna252-169.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:46] CmdLnKid_ (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. 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[01:48] LSD`: right ;) [01:48] init[1]: at least D4 didn't even feel it. it probably happened faster than his brain could even register it [01:48] but "D$ death was most likely instantaneous and painless" [01:48] /s/D$/D4/ [01:48] yea [01:49] i'm told bruno was terrible [01:50] in the "Uncontrolled Decompression" entry it says that type of situation goes down in "less than 0.1 to 0.5 seconds" [01:52] hi [01:53] but I guess that's pretty slow compared to the airbags in a car...which deploy in around 20-30 milliseconds [01:54] I don't know about you but I'd rather be sucked through a 24 inch hole in .02 seconds than .2 seconds [01:55] 2/win 38 [01:56] tah972 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:56] Nick change: tah972 -> juy592 [01:56] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [01:56] Dominian_ (n=dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) joined ##slackware. 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[02:03] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:04] and if fred sais they work..well they work [02:06] maybe I do not have them all downloaded... maybe I missed some... what is the URL again? [02:06] ftp://anorien.warwick.ac.uk/slamd64/slackware64-current/slackware64/ [02:07] 32bit binary of WINE works on slackware64 [02:07] need compat32 from slamd64 [02:07] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:08] superGear, I did not think the old libraries worked on Slackware64 [02:09] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [02:09] the url above is the compat32 libs for slackware64-current [02:10] what GTD app do people use? [02:10] yes, use chopp's url [02:10] Action: superGear doesn't know what GTD is so i guess i don't use it [02:13] Hmm, I did not have the g++ [02:13] maybe that was the problem [02:16] actually I do have that file but it appeared differently in ls [02:17] Get The D**k? [02:17] BOO!! [02:18] Baa [02:18] Hey nix_chix0r, how are you? [02:18] rhys (n=rhys@cpe-75-185-191-55.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:19] when using the patch command does the name of the patch file matter or is that controlled by things inside the patch file? [02:19] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [02:19] fire|bird, i got put on anti depressents and anti psychotics to keep the voices at bay [02:20] nix_chix0r: sounds like fun [02:20] oh yeah it's a party of a time [02:20] stealth-: the name of the diff itself doesn't really matter but the name of the subject files inside the diff matter [02:20] nix_chix0r: wow. [02:21] he's pretty sure the 20 some od voices that i hear are really just faulty wiring in my brain and i'm not really schizoid [02:22] antiwire: okay, thanks. I just got source code for a patch, but no name to it :/ [02:22] stealth-: I'm talking about the two lines near the top of a simple diff that start with --- and +++ [02:22] those file names matter [02:23] uhhh, yeah it has those. I didnt put them there or know what they mean, though [02:23] look further down in the patch; you see how some lines have - and others have +? [02:23] those are the changes [02:24] fire|bird, on the bright side i've had a pork roast with onions, potatoes, and carrots in the slow cooker since 1pm and it's now 125am:) time for good eats [02:24] I figured as much [02:24] any line without a - or + is just a context or fuzzing line [02:24] 'fuzzing'? [02:24] stealth-: it lets patch figure out some situations when code might move around a little [02:24] ah [02:25] I should really google that term, I hear it alot [02:25] nix_chix0r: dang .. that sounds nice ... :) [02:25] Action: stealth- goes off to wikipedia [02:25] oh, yeah, thanks for the help, antiwire :) [02:25] good luck [02:25] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.102) joined ##slackware. [02:26] stealth-: you're best off just messing with patch and diff on some simple text files to figure it out initially [02:26] its hella tender [02:26] some files in a fake directory tree are good practice and learning [02:28] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [02:28] cell_x (n=cellx@ip68-12-252-210.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:29] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-3-125.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. 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[02:41] paznak (n=paznak@dna252-169.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [02:41] aceofspades19: they had a party this night and I couldn't sleep [02:41] and now I'm tired because of them! [02:42] burning rag through the letter box [02:42] hathalsal (n=hathalsa@87.109.139.59) joined ##slackware. [02:42] want me to put my blue poop on their door [02:42] ? [02:42] Camarade_Tux: you should have called the cops on them [02:42] natural_mind (n=vbatts@rrcs-67-78-226-122.se.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:43] VanRoy (n=kitsilan@LAubervilliers-151-12-1-154.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Success [02:44] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [02:44] chris_lenz123 (n=chris@S0106001217e2c80e.ok.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:44] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [02:45] Camarade_Tux, i'll do it [02:45] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:45] Action: The-Croupier waves at the channel [02:45] hi The-Croupier [02:45] Action: aceofspades19 waves at The-Croupier [02:45] nix_chix0r: missyjane claims to only hear 19 voices, so you're one up on her. :P [02:45] hows it going guys? [02:45] I really wish google could convert decimal form numbers to words [02:45] good good [02:45] chopp, ahah is that so [02:46] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-86-27-232-53.popl.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [02:46] I'm not schitzo, we're ok [02:46] did kdm used to be in a separate package once? [02:46] dumb dyke probally forgot she has headphones on [02:46] haha [02:46] antiwire, hexedit could do though ;) "i think" [02:46] nix_chix0r: lol ;p [02:46] The-Croupier: not words like size [02:46] yo The-Croupier :) [02:46] i gota stop being mean to her [02:46] it's not my style [02:46] words as in: lconvert 0.00001" to English words notation [02:46] aceofspades19: they have an annual party, I can't blame them for that [02:46] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:47] Camarade_Tux: why not [02:47] Camarade_Tux, hey hey hey .. your nick is back in its full shine again ;) [02:47] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) joined ##slackware. [02:47] aceofspades19: I don't burn during the year, the have a party once a year, sounds like a deal ;) [02:47] The-Croupier: hehe :P [02:47] Camarade_Tux, tried 3.0.2 out? [02:47] The-Croupier: so 0.00001" = one hundred thousandth of an inch [02:47] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [02:47] if both you guys get shortened nicks we would have T_C and C_T [02:47] antiwire: that would be handy wouldn't it [02:47] hehe [02:47] 6a79ax39c i get this in a start screen ...google gives me one 3records..and nothing else...has anyone seen this before [02:48] is there a list somewhere of distros organized by the wm they are based around? [02:48] The-Croupier, what is that? [02:48] distrowatch ? [02:48] juice: nope, no time [02:48] juice, its something i get on boot...its windows damn... [02:48] chopp: yeah, especially for easy conversion from 0.00001mm to English word notation hahaha [02:48] actually I had some time but I spent it doing other things [02:48] The-Croupier, okay [02:48] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:48] cell_x (n=cellx@ip68-12-252-210.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:48] can you give me more? [02:48] version, when it started? [02:48] going from micro millimeters to micro inches in word form [02:49] Action: nix_chix0r sneaks maryjauana under Camarade_Tux 's pillow [02:49] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:49] juice: distro watch has one, but its not working for me :/ [02:49] :o [02:49] ic [02:49] juice, i found this 4865PE i865PE 6A79AX39C-00 06/11/03, ver. 1.2 [02:49] http://bios.rom.by/Acorp/ [02:49] dive: I've sometimes use C_T ;p [02:50] The-Croupier, so the bios isn't loading? [02:50] Camarade_Tux, I remember [02:50] or what [02:50] y0 Camarade_Tux [02:50] c_t=cheap toiletpaper? [02:50] juice. nothing is loading.. [02:50] i'm all about the cottenell 3ply with aloe [02:50] Angel Soft [02:50] it's cheap [02:50] I'm all about using corn hush [02:51] juice, i dont understand what is happened [02:51] husk** [02:51] hmm, not sure either without seeing it [02:51] superGear, if you didnt have to sit the whole duration going the the bathroom you'd use cheap TP [02:51] i do use cheap TP [02:52] Angel Soft is cheap [02:52] 1 USD for 4 rolls [02:52] exactly, if i could piss standing up with out making a huge mess like even some guys do i would [02:52] I buy that cheap stuff that still has wood and leaf parts showing [02:52] time to grow a penis [02:53] nix_chix0r: we piss on things because we like to [02:53] so i can write my name in chinese (mandarin) in the snow [02:53] some chix can pss standing up [02:53] i bet your husband pisses on your leg in the shower and you don't even know it [02:53] my sister can [02:53] probally [02:53] mrselfpwn: boot time down to 35. rebuilt kernel [02:53] real men piss on whatever is within range and the time [02:53] and/at [02:54] sweet [02:54] i'm pissing right now [02:54] gen question, by definition what is a headless server? [02:54] it was funny , we were out on the porch in the winter having a cigarette and he asked me if he could take a leak outside the porch door [02:54] no monitor [02:54] i'm like yeah go for it haha [02:54] that's better than not booting fire|bird XD [02:54] timahvo1: a system with no monitor attached and usually also no keyboard or mouse [02:54] timahvo1: often with serial console or network console only [02:55] therefore no need for X etc ? [02:55] right [02:55] mrselfpwn: yeah. That shaved 13 seconds off boot. :) [02:55] i'm now on a solely kms based video kernel after my rebuild [02:55] antiwire: superGear thanks [02:55] i rebuilt to 2.6.30.1 also [02:55] bah, going to be even more late [02:56] what are you on fire|bird? [02:56] Camarade_Tux: what timezone are you in? [02:56] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [02:56] Tue Jul 14 23:56:27 PDT 2009 [02:56] aceofspades19: I don't know if it's considered rude or not [02:56] but I /ctcp TIME people [02:56] aceofspades19: no idea but France, it's 8:50am [02:57] gmt+1 [02:57] Camarade_Tux: so you're one of those people :p [02:57] Camarade_Tux: what does '/exec -o date' show? [02:57] and your clock is wrong [02:57] mrselfpwn: 2.6.30.1 and I'm on 13rc1 [02:57] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:57] lol, I while editing my rc.S i accidentally overwrote it with nothingness some how. [02:58] I had a back up though. [02:58] mrselfpwn: haha [02:58] redtricycle: IMO, its more polite to ask people then to "snoop" [02:58] mrselfpwn: I think I can get the boot much faster, but this alone was a drastic improvement. [02:59] nod [02:59] Oh well..I'm sure someone will be mad at me one day >_> [02:59] <_< [02:59] slKIvs (n=ivan@174.92.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: "Saliendo" [03:00] Arrgh, my program keeps eating data [03:00] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) left ##slackware. [03:00] ui [03:02] sometimes I wonder if ms made the rtf format just to make me go insane [03:03] aceofspades19: yes, they did. You didn't get the memo? I suppose they didn't send it to you on purpose. [03:04] how do I say this in English 0.2862" [03:04] fire|bird: I see [03:04] antiwire: CEST [03:04] I can read the GD micrometer but I forgot how to say the readings in plain freaking English. I'm having a brain malfunction [03:04] mrselfpwn: /etc/rc.d/rc.S~ ;) [03:05] yeah, i went to edit it a second time to double check everything was in order and there was nothing in the file. [03:05] I was like wtf? [03:05] so you went the kms route as well? [03:05] aceofspades19: what's the problem with rtf? [03:05] I also noticed the fastboot=1 append line makes a good difference. [03:05] Camarade_Tux: its a bitch to make a parser for [03:05] . [03:05] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left ##slackware. [03:05] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [03:05] aceofspades19: I'd thought it had been easier [03:05] and maybe that ted has one [03:05] back apparently [03:06] Camarade_Tux: ted? [03:06] Fenix-Dark (n=lkjdlkja@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: [03:06] mrselfpwn: it does make a difference? [03:06] yes [03:07] mrselfpwn: ok, I'll have to add that again. [03:07] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: "Leaving." [03:07] aceofspades19: an rtf editor, else on slackbuilds, else on google (look for ted+rtf ;)) [03:07] in the append section [03:07] fastboot=1 [03:07] mrselfpwn: ok, will do. :) [03:07] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:07] Camarade_Tux: well, I need to intergrate the parser with my python code, I couldn't find any useable rtf libraries, so I decided to write my own [03:08] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:08] bah, python [03:08] =) [03:09] So, how come your system wasn't booting fire|bird? [03:09] Camarade_Tux: don't you be hating on my python [03:09] =) [03:09] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Excess Flood [03:09] http://code.google.com/p/pyrtf-ng/ ? [03:09] mrselfpwn: Well, after looking and thinking, I think somehow, rc.S disappeared. I have no idea how. [03:09] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [03:10] haha, [03:10] that is what happened to me [03:10] _kevlinux_ (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:10] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [03:10] i don't know how either [03:10] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:10] mrselfpwn: heh, oh well. It's all fixed now. [03:11] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-3-228-168.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Connection timed out [03:11] yeah, that is strange though that both our rc.S dissapeared [03:11] mrselfpwn: just be thankfull we're on slackware so it was easily fixed. :) [03:11] anondaemon (n=anondaem@adsl-76-236-66-216.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:11] how did you fix yours? [03:12] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: "reboot" [03:12] mrselfpwn: backup. :) [03:12] How do I compile things for 64-bit? Do I have to find software that has been written for this [03:12] same :) [03:12] or can I just put a switch in the slackbuild? [03:12] a little nervous about putting slackware64 on my laptop [03:12] Camarade_Tux: meh, I already have most of my rtf parser done [03:13] mrselfpwn: If it'd have been another distro, we'd have had to reinstalled everything. :) [03:13] gentoo and we would have been fubared [03:13] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:13] speaking of other distros [03:14] I'm thinking about how to get the new redhat "plymouth" to work on slackware [03:14] the boot splash program [03:15] pvn (n=vep2@n552-vep2.bfh.ch) joined ##slackware. [03:15] i built a package and it installs fine though i'm not sure everything i need to do to incorporate it [03:16] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [03:16] with kms splashy hangs my system sadly, though plymouth actually uses kms. [03:17] mrselfpwn: Hmm, yeah, I've seen plymouth in action. That'd be nice if you could get it to work. [03:17] yes [03:17] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Client Quit [03:18] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [03:18] mrselfpwn: good luck [03:18] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:18] ty [03:18] aceofspades19: :) [03:19] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:20] mrselfpwn: Hmm, I added fastboot=1 to lilo.conf, and lilo is taking a little while now. :| [03:21] meh, bootchart [03:21] Camarade_Tux: I got that enabled too. :) [03:22] meh, bootgraph [03:22] I'm just going to duct tape a cardboard spoiler to my laptop lid [03:22] bootgraph? similar to bootchart? [03:22] fire|bird: it's a bootchart for the kernel [03:22] what do you mean fire|bird? [03:22] Camarade_Tux: Oh, nice. [03:22] in scripts/bootchart.pl ;) [03:22] mrselfpwn: nm, it's done now. It was just sitting there a bit. [03:23] do you still have speedboot on as well? [03:23] hey guys quick question [03:23] antiwire: for aerodynamic reasons, or aesthetics(sp?)? [03:23] I want to load certain modules on bootup.. [03:23] makes it faster, duh [03:23] ah, that fastboot=1? :o [03:23] DenNOLA (n=Dennis@173-96-153-189.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:23] mrselfpwn: no, just fastboot=1 and compact [03:23] Action: Camarade_Tux had forgotten [03:23] where do i specify that [03:23] okay [03:23] that fastboot is not a one-fits-all solution at all [03:24] Camarade_Tux: what do I need to do to enable/use bootgrapgh [03:24] Shrp_: look in /etc/modprobe.d/ and then look at the /etc/rc.d/rc.modules symlink [03:24] fire|bird: bootgraph or bootchart? [03:25] bootgraph [03:25] Shrp_: if you copy the /etc/rc.d/rc.modules-$VERSION to /etc/rc.d/rc.modules.local you can make your own tweaks to rc.modules.local and it will have perference [03:25] fire|bird: oh, sorry, it's /me who can't read ;) [03:25] fire|bird: read the doc :D [03:25] Camarade_Tux: ok, I will once I find it. :D [03:25] 1- you need to enable a few options in the kernel (under Kernel debugging) [03:26] fire|bird: somewhere in the kernel source tree ; [03:26] ;) [03:26] Shrp_: check this out: nanoe +266 /etc/rc.d/rc.S [03:26] nano** [03:26] Camarade_Tux: yup, looking. [03:26] fire|bird: and addappend initcall_debug=1 and printk.time=1 [03:26] (you need the times to be displayed in your dmesg) [03:26] like : [232387.352325] hub 5-0:1.0: port 1, status 0303, change 0000, 1.5 Mb/s [03:26] I add them where? lilo.conf? [03:27] yup [03:27] in the append section [03:27] ok [03:27] thx for the info antiwire checking it out right now [03:27] and grep the kernel sources for 'printk.time=1', it will show you the doc ;) [03:28] I found printk-formats.txt :) [03:28] Camarade_Tux, I notice when i first boot that there is a bunch of normal vga text until it grabs my vid card and switches to kms enables console. How might I alleviate that? [03:29] s/enables/enabled [03:29] /etc/rc.d/rc.muscled start [03:29] let's hope it runs correctly, I really need it [03:29] mrselfpwn: must be kms enabling the console [03:30] mrselfpwn: which kernel? [03:30] 2.6.30.1 [03:30] stable [03:30] sounds like kms [03:30] yes, i only have kms enabled in the kernel [03:31] heh, grep finds nothing in the kernel source tree for that. :P [03:31] no solution I know, but you can play with loglevel : add loglevel=3 to the options, it will reduce the amount of text the kernel display (with 3, it will remove normal and informative messages and only display errors/problems) [03:31] fire|bird: read (and understand) scripts/bootgraph.pl ;) [03:31] ahh [03:31] and grep/find for bootgraph ;p [03:31] thank you, i'll give that a go [03:32] S|ackwareX (n=a@189.187.173.190) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:32] that's also a kernel boot line command? [03:32] yep [03:33] gotta go now, laterz [03:33] take it easy, thanks [03:33] brb [03:34] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [03:34] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left ##slackware. 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[03:56] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:58] anyone used a tool to sync a local directory with a master remote ftp site? [03:58] I found ftpsync2d... [03:58] that sounds like a chimera of the devil and a rattlesnake [03:59] :-) [04:00] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:00] agris (n=agris@80.232.193.2) joined ##slackware. [04:04] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [04:06] Necrogami (n=Necrogam@unaffiliated/necrogami) joined ##slackware. [04:07] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:08] stunix (n=stian@77.16.228.217.tmi.telenormobil.no) joined ##slackware. [04:09] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere."). [04:10] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [04:10] agris (n=agris@80.232.193.2) left irc: "leaving" [04:11] hathalsal (n=hathalsa@87.109.139.59) left ##slackware. [04:13] what's wrong with noobfarm [04:13] latest entry is june 30 [04:13] fire|bird, what is bootgraph? any urls? [04:15] tried googling it..:( [04:16] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Java user signed off" [04:16] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [04:17] oddsock (n=me@adsl-2-39.teol.net) joined ##slackware. [04:19] slava_dp: Dominian_ told last night that noobfarm is frozen until further notice [04:21] oh, right then. [04:22] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.102) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:23] that's odd there were new post on there a few days ago [04:25] he migrated it to his linode, but not sure about the missing posts and such [04:27] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: "leaving" [04:27] mikearr (n=miker@pool-72-91-179-75.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:27] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [04:30] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [04:30] any early morning slackers on atm ? o_O [04:30] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: Client Quit [04:31] hello? [04:31] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [04:31] wazzup [04:31] :D [04:31] man i have been crackin away at getting this new kernel to load with no luck at all [04:31] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.155.188.68) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:31] its like 1:30 and its also my b-day today [04:32] and no still no luck with kernel [04:33] 'appy birthday beatzz :D [04:34] what does the kernel say? [04:35] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [04:35] slava_dp: i will pastebin it [04:36] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-136-183.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [04:37] pastebin.slackadelic.com dosent work? [04:38] mayhem. chaos. anarchy [04:38] appears so [04:38] slava_dp: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/218700/ [04:38] that is the last few messages from what i belive is called the dmesg [04:38] when it starts up [04:39] ouch. you could've spared the honour and used pastebin.com or .ca :-) [04:39] those are the last few lines where things start to look wronge [04:39] lol [04:39] if they wana offer free pastebin i will use it [04:39] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:39] hathalsal (n=hathalsa@87.109.139.59) joined ##slackware. [04:40] slava_dp: what do you think? [04:40] and you are running what? slack 12.2? [04:41] what kernel is the "new one"? [04:42] 12.2 [04:42] vmlinuz-custom-2.6.27.7 is the kernel i compiled [04:42] following ailens wiki [04:43] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=linux:kernelbuilding&s[]=kernel [04:43] then you have left out the driver for your sata controller. [04:43] the kernel can't find your hdd. [04:44] ok so how do i include the driver? [04:44] i followed his wiki copy/paste [04:44] http://pastebin.com/m5896d3db [04:44] you may find that interesting [04:44] output from 'lilo -c -v' [04:45] lspci on a working kernel and add whatever you see to the custom one. [04:45] shouldent they be included? [04:46] from a standard; make / make modules_install in /usr/src/linux? [04:46] SATA support should be in device drivers -> serial ata in menuconfig (at least for 2.6.26) [04:47] did you even modify the stock slackware .config? [04:47] yes [04:47] with 'make menuconfig' [04:48] ok, i looked at the guide and see that you've used the *generic* config as the basis for your custom kernel. the generic one does not include any sata controllers. you should find out what yours is and add it. [04:48] root@5570Z:~# lspci |grep SATA [04:48] 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev 02) [04:48] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-11-203.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [04:49] so i need to go back into menuconfig? [04:49] or build an initrd, if you have the stock modules for 2.6.27.7 [04:49] read /boot/README.initrd [04:50] ive made several initrd's tonight [04:50] :/ [04:50] ChArLoK_16 (n=ChArLoK_@91.144.7.186) joined ##slackware. [04:50] it's just not the proper way to build the kernel imo. the proper way is build a static one with zero modules. everything included. that way you will not be worrying about initrds. [04:51] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:51] i agree [04:51] i think that sounds much more effient [04:51] train me [04:52] marto28sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [04:54] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:54] make menuconfig && tick everything that is relevant to your system with a star. shouldn't have anything with an "M" afterwards. that's all. [04:54] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:55] might spend a lot of time reading the help for the kernel options, but thats how it goes the first couple of tries. [04:56] just make randconfig [04:56] spice it up [04:56] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [04:57] then you make it, boot it and it either fails with a kernel panic (not likely, since it will auto-adjust things based on inner dependencies), or you get some features missing like no usb automounting (had that one). then you go and add what's missing. [04:57] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:58] damn. looks like i've scared him off. [04:59] :D [05:00] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-11-203.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [05:01] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [05:01] bah [05:01] it did nothing [05:01] still no kernel modules found [05:02] what did you do? [05:02] rebooted after checking everything again [05:02] SATA support in menuconfig was on and everything [05:02] i even read /boot/README.initrd [05:03] if you enable sata and the support for your filesystem then an initrd is unnecessary. [05:03] and used '-k 2.6.27.7-smp' instead of just '-k 2.6.27.7' [05:04] with mkinitrd* [05:04] slava_dp: what would you sudjest? [05:06] paste your mkinitrd command. [05:06] slava_dp: static kernels are if you recompile for your rig - but with it all modularized, it works just as well. There's arguments for both sides of that coin [05:06] VanRoy (n=kitsilan@LAubervilliers-151-12-1-154.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [05:06] aperturefever (n=george@athedsl-202739.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:07] slava_dp: root@5570Z:~# mkinitrd -c -f reiserfs -k 2.6.27.7-smp -m reiserfs -o initrd-bootsplash-2.6.27.7.gz -r /dev/sda1 [05:07] with it all modularized you need an initrd. that's the point of doing it static :) [05:07] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [05:07] oh wait a sec [05:07] i may have found something here [05:07] let me check my lilo.conf [05:08] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.133.65.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [05:08] you're not trying to boot from a usb drive, are you? [05:08] no [05:08] ezrafree_ (i=ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. [05:08] should work then [05:09] altho my initrd="/boot/*.gz" was off target [05:09] Necrogami (n=Necrogam@unaffiliated/necrogami) left irc: Connection reset by peer [05:09] hm? [05:09] KidpunkX (n=kidpunkx@adsl-235-224-99.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [05:09] i reset it properly, ran 'lilo -c -v' gana reboot and see what happens [05:09] hey do you have build scripts? [05:09] dont know [05:09] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:09] Necrogami (n=Necrogam@76-248-252-176.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [05:10] Action: slava_dp has build scripts. so what? [05:13] 3649145102_be56c2b3a9.jpg (JPEG Image, 500x375 pixels) [05:14] hey now keep the pr0n0 out [05:14] just don't let it get in :) [05:15] tewmten, did you try to post an image to irc? :) [05:15] yes [05:16] its funny [05:16] cant you see? [05:16] http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2443/3649145102_be56c2b3a9.jpg [05:16] :D [05:16] =) [05:17] well i guess you could make a script to send the imagedata over a ctcp message and have it rendered on the other client [05:17] or something [05:17] that's be quite neat [05:17] maybe [05:17] :D [05:17] lol [05:17] that's gonna be one helluva long ctcp message tho [05:18] smoked pot again, tewmten ? :D [05:18] no [05:18] hathalsal (n=hathalsa@87.109.139.59) left irc: Connection timed out [05:18] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [05:18] im eating prescription drugs [05:18] not my prescription tho but that's just a technicality.. [05:18] :D [05:23] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [05:23] well great news [05:23] im in my new kernel! [05:23] bad news is bootsplash isent working [05:23] i had it working once last night [05:24] im 1 step closer i guess. [05:25] ezrafree_ (i=ezra@208.67.159.229) left irc: Client Quit [05:25] ezrafree (i=ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-2.0 -- Are we there yet?" [05:29] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-136-183.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:29] hathalsal (n=hathalsa@87.109.139.59) joined ##slackware. [05:33] bah, x input broken [05:33] which bootsplash? [05:34] how can I disable hal autoconfigure for X input devices? [05:34] Action: Camarade_Tux has reboot thrice [05:35] hal working [05:35] it will be win7 [05:36] ChArLoK_16 (n=ChArLoK_@91.144.7.186) left irc: Connection reset by peer [05:36] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [05:36] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [05:36] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.24.186) joined ##slackware. [05:38] ChArLoK_16 (n=ChArLoK_@91.144.7.186) joined ##slackware. [05:39] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-174-128.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [05:41] anyway, I really don't like how the new X doesn't manage input devices [05:41] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:42] giuppy (n=giuppy@host38-167-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:44] i really dislike all this xorg+hal story. it was better before. [05:48] it's really unreliable, it has already failed thrice for me, and I only started using it ten days ago [05:48] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.25.102) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:48] If you want to disable HAL in your xorg.conf look here: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_input_hotplugging#I_don.27t_want_this_crap.2C_how_do_I_turn_it_off.3F [05:49] Action: slava_dp still hasn't upgraded his slack-current to the new xorg [05:49] so my slack is not so -current now :) i will look into that link [05:50] alienBOB: thanks, gonna save that on my hard drive for next reboot [05:50] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-216-82.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:51] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [05:51] sweeeet!!! [05:51] new kernel, and bootsplash works [05:52] goodnight all [05:52] :D [05:52] archlinux wiki is amazing. [05:52] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:52] too bad they do not release stable snaphots. [05:53] it's really frustrating when input doesn't work and you read "blablabla, mouse disabled, keyboard disabled" in the logs >< [05:54] slava_dp: your not wrong about their wiki [05:54] jjnw-wibble (n=jjnw-wib@82-69-3-154.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:56] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:56] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-16-227.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:56] uva (i=bno@118-160-174-128.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:57] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:58] paul424 (n=chatzill@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [05:58] Hi how about 13 rc1 did anyone tested ? Does it works or cause any problems ? [06:00] I'm happily running slackware64 13rc1 without any problem besides input in X sometimes [06:00] alienBOB: btw, I noticed there was no /usr/local/lib64, only lib, not lib64, I guess it isn't expected [06:02] I think rworkman should nugde Pat to have his newer version of CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT added to -current. That version has the xorg.conf "disable-hal" instructions too [06:03] s/nugde/nudge/ rworkman ;-) [06:03] sean2009 (n=sean@user-544242b0.l5.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:03] hi [06:04] i have just installed slack on my other pc what do i do to load up a gui..? [06:04] startx? [06:04] its just at the command prompt [06:04] sorry i mean kde [06:05] or gnome etc [06:05] i meant a desktop environment [06:05] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:05] or do i have to download one? [06:06] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [06:07] does any one know? [06:07] if you need a wm selector then run xdm [06:07] ok thanks [06:07] Camarade_Tux: are we speaking english? [06:08] sean2009, adduser [06:08] i thought this was an english room [06:08] ok [06:08] sean2009, than xwmconfig and startx [06:08] oddsock (n=me@adsl-2-39.teol.net) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.11.3 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [06:08] sean2009, don't run x as root [06:09] ok i will try it hold on [06:09] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [06:10] its just loading up now [06:10] jjnw-wibble (n=jjnw-wib@82-69-3-154.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:10] sean2009, login as root, add a user, log out and login as the user. [06:10] ok i added myself as a user, [06:11] ok i ve logged in as myself [06:12] xwmconfig [06:12] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:12] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [06:12] Dominian_: what happened to noobfarm? it went back in time! [06:12] i typed xwmconfig but it didnt work [06:12] sean2009, did you do a full install? [06:12] yes [06:12] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-178-224.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:13] did it output anything? [06:13] it says permission denied [06:13] to access the [06:13] ebw (n=user@e179094173.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [06:13] Hi there! [06:13] /.xwmconfig [06:14] do i have to change permissons? [06:14] I have a problem with kde on slackware. For root it starts normal, as a normal users it hangs when the system services should be initialized ... (splash screen thingy) [06:14] did you use adduser to create your user? seems like a problem with your home folder [06:14] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-17-53.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:15] hold on i left out it says mkdir cant create the directory // xwmconfig [06:15] I checked that 5 minutes ago by adding a new play user with adduser. Same problem. [06:15] s/play/plain/ [06:15] ebw, was not for you [06:15] sorry [06:16] yes i used adduser [06:16] i even created a group [06:17] with useradd -g groupname sean [06:17] sean2009, ls -ld $HOME [06:17] ok hold on [06:17] it says root root // [06:18] sean2009, mine says slava users. you did something wrong. [06:18] yes, i thought so its my first install of slackware [06:19] how do i create a home directory for me then? mkdir home ?? [06:19] Wizard (n=wziuuuuu@gentoo/user/wizard) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:19] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host138-70-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:19] he sounds to be in a root shell [06:20] yes i think iam [06:20] sean2009, "whoami" [06:20] ok [06:20] answer sean [06:20] pwd [06:20] i did login as root [06:20] then typed logout [06:21] then logged back in as me [06:21] ok [06:21] pwd = / [06:21] oh noes [06:21] should i restart the pc and login as me? [06:21] login as root, do a userdel sean, adduser sean [06:21] ok hold on [06:22] it will ask you questions, right? [06:22] like what's your home dir, shell etc [06:22] stick with the suggested ones [06:22] it says user uid [06:22] just hit return [06:23] ok [06:23] initial group [06:23] i pressed enter [06:23] ok iam pressing enter through everything [06:23] secondary groups [06:23] press up [06:24] iirc [06:24] ok its setup [06:24] i did it before seeing your comment [06:24] :( [06:24] account setup complete [06:24] sorry [06:24] but it created an account [06:25] ok [06:25] please read what is written on screen. it clearly said you should add yourself to additional secondary groups. [06:25] i typed in xwmconfig [06:25] it has loaded up something [06:26] yes i created the account before reading everything [06:26] because i had my back to the screeen [06:26] how can i edit the groups? [06:27] ebw (n=user@e179094173.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:27] usermod -G floppy audio video cdrom plugdev power scanner sean [06:28] as root [06:28] ok thanks i'll type that now [06:28] you could also find a use for the slackbook. http://www.slackbook.org [06:29] these are basics, you should read up on them. [06:29] ok thanks, it came up with a usage thing. did you leave a command out? [06:30] stunix (n=stian@77.16.228.217.tmi.telenormobil.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:31] usermod -G floppy,audio,video,cdrom,plugdev,power,scanner sean [06:31] VanRoy (n=kitsilan@LAubervilliers-151-12-1-154.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:31] misread the manpage. man usermod, by the way. [06:31] use gpasswd -A instead of usermod [06:31] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [06:31] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-216-82.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:32] ok thanks [06:32] ananke, is it any better than usermod? [06:32] less chance of screwing up. with usermod you have to specify both current and new groups. if you forget one of your current groups, you'll be removed from it [06:33] thanks for the help. you guys are really clever at linux [06:33] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:33] VanRoy (n=kitsilan@LAubervilliers-151-12-1-154.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [06:34] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:34] anyway i re typed xwmconfig [06:34] and now i guess i choose the window manager? [06:34] what one would you recommend? [06:35] try them all, see what you like [06:35] ok thanks i ll try blackbox as ive never heard of that [06:35] do i type in startx now? [06:35] xfce and kde are robust [06:36] ok [06:36] ok i typed in startx and it loaded up blackbox [06:36] has anyone noticed that in some cases bluez-utils doesnt install properly? all of the times i chose the full install i couldnt find an rc.bluetooth & rc.bluetooth.conf file anywhere. had to reinstall [06:36] all of the times = 2 times [06:37] when i did custom installations i had no problems [06:37] Thanks for the help it is working great now. [06:38] sean2009, now is the time to go read the slackbook ;-) [06:39] yes i will do that. Many thanks slava. bye [06:39] sean2009 (n=sean@user-544242b0.l5.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [06:40] also my user appears to be in group floppy, if i type groups, but is not part of floppy in /etc/group, and i didnt add him there [06:41] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:41] sahko, its a hack by Pat which is not working [06:41] slava_dp: hack to do what? [06:41] s/do/achieve [06:42] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [06:42] sahko, to add you to all the needed groups automatically. but the caveat is that programs tend to read /etc/group directly instead of querying your privileges :) [06:43] well, i am not in the scanner group for example. [06:43] isnt that a "needed group" ? [06:43] i'm in the scanner by hand. [06:43] in a shell, what can i type to display the /dev/pty number? [06:43] no, not an essential one. only if you use a scanner :D [06:44] tty [06:44] t0f: tty [06:44] thanks [06:44] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [06:44] and the floppy only if you use a floppy..etc etc [06:44] well what do you want, it's a security-minded world [06:46] i wonder how it is possible that groups returns different values than /etc/group [06:47] something around /etc/profile is doing that. i remember seeing the magic, can't recall where [06:48] aperturefever (n=george@athedsl-202739.home.otenet.gr) left ##slackware. [06:51] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.133.65.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: [06:51] maybe its relevant to the fact i pressed UP in adduser but removed the floppy group. gonna chack that out [06:52] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:52] hathalsal (n=hathalsa@87.109.139.59) left ##slackware. [06:53] paissad_ (n=paissad@53.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [06:54] yeap thats it [06:54] hi everybody [06:54] when i try to download gconf from ftp.gnome.org repositorty using wget, i get this error permission denied [06:54] ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/GConf/2.9/GConf-2.9.2.tar.bz2 [06:55] or even ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/GConf/2.9/GConf-2.9.91.tar.bz2 [06:55] does it mean download from that site needs authentification ? [06:56] maybe they banned your IP :P [06:56] it works here [06:56] why ? ... it's weird [06:57] I'm sure you can download it from another place, and ftp.gnome.org is so slooow [06:57] where else ? [06:59] may someone of you send me the latest version of gconf please ? [07:01] paissad, ?_? [07:01] Action: slava_dp is hurriedly inserting his latest trojan into gconf and prepares to send it to paissad [07:01] mohaa, hi [07:02] paissad_, local mirrors for the gnome thingy [07:03] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection reset by peer [07:04] paissad, sorry, it's too big with the trojan inside, 250 megs. still want me to send it? :D [07:04] FF3.5 Exploit Video: http://bit.ly/pgvNJ [07:04] slava_dp, lool [07:06] Zordrak, nice exploit. [07:07] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [07:08] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:09] Necrogami (n=Necrogam@76-248-252-176.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:11] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [07:15] giuppy (n=giuppy@host38-167-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:18] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-86-27-232-53.popl.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:18] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-86-27-232-53.popl.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:19] dmslack (n=dmslack@host94-22-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:19] hello all [07:19] seejay (n=seejay@plexyplanet.org) joined ##slackware. [07:19] my problem nvidia xorg no run http://www.slacky.eu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=29277&start=0&sid=0360853c39abed1cb1dbff5f000a4047 [07:25] something ive never seen before, and dont know what to search for: internet explorer doesnt show any result of any search engine. i.e it shows google and the search textbox,you put your option andthen press enter, then i get an empty page..nothing nada, but NO ERROR whatsoever [07:25] has enyone seen this before? [07:25] what does the source of the page show? [07:25] agris (n=user@pasts.blondais.lv) joined ##slackware. [07:26] The-Croupier, screw internet explorer [07:26] "Internet explorer", is that a browser? [07:26] explorer.... as it is written. it explores [07:27] Sounds exciting. [07:27] rob0, it's a guy in with a backpack sitting in front of firefox ;) [07:27] you're right - every minute something new [07:28] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/dvgrab/ [07:28] dvdgrab-3.3 is no longer avalaible, it's 3.4 now ! [07:29] wow [07:29] lol [07:30] guys, i completely agree with all the screwing and exploring and exploding and everything else you fancy [07:30] but that doesnt solve that ie is not working in this case [07:31] sorry, i missed that [07:31] Search the MS KB and then contact MS Support. Or, just format and reinstall. [07:32] oh, maybe run a virus check too [07:32] yep, run a virus check. [07:33] kill explorer task first ;) [07:33] virus check already did that 3times with 3different avs [07:33] uninstall doesnt work :( [07:33] format out of the question :( [07:34] am i screwed?...by the way, its not mine... i love my slacklaptop..nothing of this shit happens in slackware [07:34] try erasing the cache. [07:34] i have this error when i build mkvtoolnix [07:34] configure: error: Could not link against the Boost regex library ! [07:34] i installed boost already [07:34] checking for boostlib >= 1.32.0... yes [07:34] checking whether the Boost::Regex library is available... yes [07:34] configure: error: Could not link against the Boost regex library ! [07:35] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:35] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [07:35] slava_dp, you mean the tools delete everything? [07:35] or is there another way? [07:36] slava_dp, funny part: it displays white page only on search engines, everything else works fine [07:36] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:36] and if it was cache wouldnt it be emptied after a restart? [07:37] 11 minutes ago: 11:25 < alisonken1noc> what does the source of the page show? [07:37] (the white page) [07:37] thanks guys brb [07:39] giuppy (n=giuppy@host38-167-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:39] paissad_ (n=paissad@53.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:41] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:47] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [07:50] paissad_ (n=paissad@53.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [07:54] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:56] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-216-82.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:58] ChArLoK_16 (n=ChArLoK_@91.144.7.186) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:03] i'm trying to build ffmpeg into slack64, i have this error http://pastebin.fr/5113 [08:04] i already installed schroedinger [08:04] from SBo [08:04] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5612 2009-07-15 11:39 /var/log/packages/schroedinger-1.0.5-x86_64-1_SBo [08:05] root@paissad:/tmp/OVER# env | grep -i pkg [08:05] PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib64/pkgconfig:/usr/lib64/pkgconfig [08:05] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:05] The-Croupier: what is the problem? [08:06] paissad_: it's possible the boost regex library is separate from the main boost library [08:06] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:06] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [08:06] Camarade_Tux, and then, how to solve that ? 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[08:14] paissad, log out, log back in [08:14] slackaholic (i=1000@187.25.157.64) left irc: Client Quit [08:14] ananke, that's what i did not want to do :) [08:15] sh /etc/profile [08:15] paissad, source /etc/profile may work. or simply quit dorking around and set your variables in your current environment [08:15] isn't it shell script there? [08:15] agris: almost [08:15] paissad: " . /etc/profile " [08:16] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) got lost in the net-split. [08:16] StevenR_ (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) got lost in the net-split. [08:16] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) got lost in the net-split. [08:16] Zordrak (i=1000@zelda.tpa.me.uk) got lost in the net-split. [08:16] Giant81 (n=me@h69-129-137-126.69-129.unk.tds.net) got lost in the net-split. [08:16] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) got lost in the net-split. [08:16] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.34) got lost in the net-split. [08:16] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) got lost in the net-split. [08:16] alienBOB, thanks it works [08:16] paissad, . = source [08:16] so you're welcome [08:17] ananke, thanks too [08:17] :) [08:17] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:17] i don't undersand the . /**** [08:17] i know executing a file with ./file [08:17] but not what you told me to do [08:18] The " . " or "source" command executes the script in your current environment instead of spawning a subshell [08:18] ok, thanks :) [08:18] paissad, man bash, search for 'source filename' [08:18] k [08:19] If you run "sh /etc/profile" then all these variables will only be set in the subshell... and lost when the script ends and the subshell is destroyed [08:22] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.48.135) joined ##slackware. [08:22] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [08:23] Necrogami (n=Necrogam@unaffiliated/necrogami) joined ##slackware. [08:23] oh [08:23] hba (n=hba@189.188.154.44) joined ##slackware. [08:23] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:24] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:27] *cough* "Security:" in topic is outdated *cough* *cough* [08:27] giuppy (n=giuppy@host38-167-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:27] (or nobody cares about that fancy dhcp, when I was young I had to get my IP address by HAND) [08:28] pvn (n=vep2@n552-vep2.bfh.ch) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:28] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:29] Necrogami (n=Necrogam@unaffiliated/necrogami) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:29] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:33] Necrogami (n=Necrogam@unaffiliated/necrogami) joined ##slackware. [08:35] sid77: alienBOB can change it. [08:39] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-216-82.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:40] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [08:40] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:41] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) joined ##slackware. [08:42] don't you tail -f the changelog? why do you need in the topic? :) [08:42] yo, people [08:42] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:187) joined ##slackware. [08:43] _kevlinux_ (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [08:45] stunix (n=stian@77.16.228.217.tmi.telenormobil.no) joined ##slackware. [08:45] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:51] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [08:51] Topic changed on ##slackware by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB: Guidelines: http://tinyurl.com/3kox9k | http://slackbook.org | http://slackwiki.org | http://slackbuilds.org | http://slackware.com/getslack | This Channel has Public Logs | http://freenodeslack.blogspot.com/ | http://slackwaregallery.org | Slackware 12.2 Released December 9, 2008 | Use a torrent: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php | Security: ghostscript,dhcp | -current is now 13.0rc1 | new official port: ARMedslack [08:52] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [08:52] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:54] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [08:54] nheco_ (n=nheco_nh@201-11-236-96.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:54] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:187) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:55] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:187) joined ##slackware. [08:55] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:00] Camarade_Tux: the VPS the site is on has some "issues" i had to restore from backup for the time being... [09:00] Nick change: Dominian_ -> Dominian [09:00] is that why you were mentionning linode and others yesterday? [09:00] Camarade_Tux: yes [09:01] apparently so0mething isn't resolving righ tcause I still don't get the right IP for noobfarm.org [09:02] nheco (n=nheco_nh@200-96-100-157.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:03] giuppy (n=giuppy@host250-134-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:04] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:04] hba (n=hba@189.188.154.44) left irc: "leaving" [09:08] Zordrak (n=jaz@78.32.83.254) joined ##slackware. [09:09] wtf is with irssi not auto-rejoining ##slackware.. but doing it for ever other channel [09:09] Dominian: what vps ar you using? [09:10] I have one xen VPS that I get from a friend... and I have another dedicated for my mail server at linode.com [09:10] I see. [09:10] In case of situations like the one I created last night :D [09:10] I use slicehost, here [09:10] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [09:10] should I stay away from linode for the moment? [09:10] linode was cheaper for me [09:11] nah.. I like linode [09:11] I got an annual subscription [09:11] agris (n=user@pasts.blondais.lv) left irc: "leaving" [09:11] do they offer slackware? (slice does not) [09:11] yes [09:11] 12.2 [09:11] oh, nice. [09:11] its extremely slimmed down, but you can use slackpkg to change that :) [09:12] Dominian: how much does your vps cost? [09:12] 19.95 a month [09:12] usd? [09:12] you get a 10% discount if you do it annually [09:12] 15% if you do 24months [09:12] Zordrak: yes [09:12] and if you get a linode.. you get a referall code as well [09:12] so soemone signs up.. using your referal code.. they stay on for 90days.. you get 20bucks [09:13] Dominian: interesting. I might consider them for my next vps [09:13] http://www.kimsufi.com/ :D [09:13] Dominian: I could live with centos , but I prefer slack [09:13] thumbs: Its definitely been worth it.. their official IRC support channel is on oftc as #linode most of the employees/owners of the company reside in there [09:14] thumbs: i *couldnt* live with CentOS :) [09:14] Dominian: thanks. [09:14] thumbs: keep in mind if you do get a VPS with linode.. if you use apache/mysql be sure to performance tune them hehe.. I was getting horrible I/O until I tuned mysql and apache [09:14] Dominian: oh I'm used to that already. [09:14] hehe I figured [09:15] plus you get choice of data centers [09:15] do they have centers in europe? [09:15] not yet [09:15] it ssomething they've been looking into [09:15] bu thell I have mine in dallas.. [09:15] the transfer speeds are insane :) [09:16] Dominian: I want Canada! [09:16] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [09:16] heh [09:16] thumbs: they have a Newark, NJ data center.. that's getting "close" to Canada :P [09:17] meh, it's a VPS. I wouldn't have access to the hardware anyway. [09:17] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.92.51) joined ##slackware. [09:17] but being a few hops away is good, nonetheless [09:17] Action: Camarade_Tux plans on getting dedicated [09:19] guys need help configuring cedilla on X [09:19] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.76.83) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:19] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.74.164) joined ##slackware. [09:19] Camarade_Tux: I want dedicated as well, but I don't have the time/money to maintain the hardware. [09:20] Camarade_Tux: this way.. I get 99.9% SLA... and I don't have to screw with equipment [09:20] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:21] Dominian: is hardware such a problem [09:21] ? [09:21] Eh it just depends. [09:21] I mean if you don't have hot swap drives etc.. raid... if you lose a drive.. it can be a nightmare to recover from [09:23] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [09:24] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: "leaving" [09:26] Jiraia_ (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:9b) joined ##slackware. [09:26] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:187) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:29] anyone know how to get Ctrl-R history search working in Slackware's mysql client? [09:29] rlwrap [09:30] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:30] Camarade_Tux: rlwrap works with sqlplus, but it didn't work for mysql (for me). have you gotten it to work? [09:32] never tried actually ;) [09:32] what's mysql licence already? [09:32] Camarade_Tux: i just tested it again, doesn't work with mysql [09:33] apparently mysql should already have readline [09:33] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.17) joined ##slackware. [09:34] Camarade_Tux: yes, it should according to the slackbuild, also has editline [09:34] it's driving me crazy... [09:36] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [09:37] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Java user signed off" [09:40] techgeek (n=fredrik@212-181-135-74-no29.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:47] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.84.22.174) joined ##slackware. [09:47] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.92.51) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:49] amazon10x (i=captain@liberstation.com) joined ##slackware. [09:50] i'm trying to install slackware from usbboot.img with ftp for packages. however, it is trying to download /slackware/slackware/a/foo instead of just /slackware/a/foo [09:50] it find the PACKAGES.TXT file correctly, but then fails on all the packages. anyone had this before? [09:51] sounds like you're pointing it one directory too far [09:51] that's what i thought, but then it wouldn't find the packages.txt file, right? [09:52] your FTP path should end with slackware-12.2 i believe [09:52] no, most of the dirs have packages.txt [09:53] nheco (n=nheco_nh@200-102-93-230.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:53] nheco_ (n=nheco_nh@201-11-236-96.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:53] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-178-224.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [09:54] Please read what it says in that configuration window amazon10x .. .the path should end in 'slackware' - being the directory below which you find a,ap,d,..., y [09:55] sorry amazon10x, I was wrong I guess [09:56] Skywise (n=noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) joined ##slackware. [09:56] morning [09:58] is there an appreciable gain in using a 64bit os in LAMP server, are the gains if any worth the trouble? [09:59] Action: Zordrak just screwed up -- went to increase the size of an md raid1 array after replacing the disks with bigger ones.. did a delete/recreate of the partitions on the member disks to make the partitions larger without touching the fs... what i didnt realise was that doing that destroyed the md superblock for those partitions.. any advise for recovery? [10:00] Skywise: if you run a huge mysql database, perhaps. [10:00] Skywise: for httpd, you won't see much of a difference. [10:00] yeah, it will primarily be httpd [10:02] Zordrak: you still have one of the original drives? [10:02] hmm seems create should be non-destructive.. will give it a crack [10:03] create is non destructive [10:03] Sk*nod* [10:03] brb [10:03] btw.. i now love having -current available for PXE boot :) [10:03] im on it now :) [10:04] anyone here know much about power surges? [10:04] yeah, i'm still not sold on the benefit of pxe [10:05] Skywise: really? What other method do you use to network boot? [10:05] i'd like to be able to use a flashdrive [10:05] no, thats what i mean [10:06] i'm not sure theres a benefit to booting over the network [10:06] since you have to maintain a server to support it as well [10:06] Well, how would you run a totallly media-less machine then? [10:06] Or, more importantly, 1,000 totally media-less machines [10:06] i just wish there was a way to use pxe with wireles [10:06] wireless [10:07] yeah, if you're medialess i can see a benefit [10:07] but i just thought the overhead of downloading everytime would be an over detraction [10:07] kk [10:07] overall [10:07] arrays rebuilt.. big bonus.. but cant get the root md to grow [10:08] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) joined ##slackware. [10:08] eviljames: got a specific question about power surges? [10:08] yeah, i've never been secure enough to try that [10:08] if i ask it to grow while its on it says device or resource busy.. if i ask it to grow while its off it says.. wtf are you on about.. what array? [10:08] gnubien: not specific enough to phrase atm, but I think I had one rip through my apartment yesterday. [10:08] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) left irc: Client Quit [10:08] well its prolly still syncing [10:08] run cat /proc/mdstat and see whats going on [10:09] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) joined ##slackware. [10:09] gnubien: desktop is _down_ and giving me panics during boot, initial stages of the kernel firing up APIC and CPU0.. never gets as far as CPU1. [10:09] that could be a disk error, can you boot the install disc? [10:10] eviljames: best to get a power strip for pc that can protect you from power surges; lightning strikes nearby can not be stopped from causing damage unless you unplug the pc from power supply [10:10] Skywise: 2 separate boot media, 2 separate hard drives (cold spare). Exact same errors. [10:10] if it won't boot then you prolly have a hardware error [10:10] Even LILO misbehaves. [10:10] you change cables? [10:10] Skywise: bang on.. its resyncing... [10:11] f knows why as they were identical [10:11] i am wandering when someone makes a package that contains some lib is there any header files which are not needed by the library users... [10:11] its gotta do its thing [10:11] `watch -n0.1 cat /proc/mdstat` [10:11] Action: Zordrak waits [10:11] eviljames: an APC is a good idea too imho [10:11] gnubien: that's why I'm somewhat confused - it's on a surge bar, and there hadn't been a lightning strike nearby, plus I'm on the 4th floor of an apartment (which, theoretically, can balance a surge a little better) [10:12] what i usually do is make the new drives as a new raid, and then copy it over, make sure the partitions are bootable and then swap 'em [10:12] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:12] gnubien: i just took delivery of 2x2200VAs from APC :) [10:12] Action: Camarade_Tux kicks eviljames in the nuts [10:12] Zordrak: that actually slows it down quite a bit, just peek in on it now and then [10:12] hi :) [10:12] Camarade_Tux: ohai! can plz be sending processor to me Q6600? [10:13] eviljames: my APC has data for highest and lowest voltage read by APC, command is apcupsd status [10:13] it complains on the first boot, but mkraid|create fixes that [10:13] Skywise: surely it shouldnt.. the bottleneck ought to be diski/o and the watch just taxes kernel/cpu.. [10:13] but nm [10:13] you should be able to see the bitrate [10:13] gnubien: duly noted, I'll grab one for my home, it certainly would help to troubleshoot an issue like this. [10:13] Zordrak: industrial strength APC's ,fer sure :) [10:13] then stop watching and then check after a couple of seconds [10:14] it will be much higher [10:14] At some point today I guess I'll take it back to the hw vendor and say: "I dunno what happened... IT BROKE!" [10:14] Action: eviljames plays n00b [10:14] Nick change: Jiraia_ -> jiraia [10:14] eviljames: got a multimeter handy, connect it to power strip that pc uses and monitor the voltage [10:14] eviljames: okay, and you send me an i7? =) [10:14] gnubien: I don't know how that will help me resolve the kernel panic when trying to bring up CPU0? [10:15] Camarade_Tux: good call, but the i7s need a new mobo, new ram. I can drop a Q6600 in to mine at any time. [10:15] eviljames: it should be quite easy for you to play noob :) [10:15] eviljames: he, I see [10:15] eviljames: or send the girlfriend ;) [10:15] Camarade_Tux: hahah for the last time, NO [10:15] Camarade_Tux: get your own girlfriend! [10:15] eviljames: my power company here in florida offers a whole house surge supressor for $50/mo but i just use 2 power strips connected in series for pc [10:15] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [10:16] surge suppessors aren't reuseable [10:16] when they've been hit you need to replace them [10:16] yep [10:16] Camarade_Tux: I'm the one who spent all the time wooing her - go find a girl that can tolerate you for more than a few seconds at a time! [10:16] eviljames: I didn't mean you should send *me* your girlfriend, I meant you should send her to the hardware shop and play noob ;) [10:16] eviljames: walmart sells cheap power strips for about $15 [10:16] oh hahahahaha [10:16] gnubien: I don't shop at walmart on principle. [10:17] preferably noob quickly blinking the eyes and with a big smile :) [10:17] eviljames: ok, any other hardware store might have them too [10:17] eviljames++ about walmart [10:17] wally world [10:17] gnubien: gonna have two 4u supermicro boxes running slack cross-linked to both UPSes [10:18] nice [10:18] gnubien: gonna use drbd to make it one uber-redundant RAID61 server [10:18] nicer [10:18] Camarade_Tux: ahh, yeah, they'll probably upgrade her for free! Get her to ask questions like "I don't know which part of this circuit has the PC on it, but I think electricity is causing a problem." [10:18] RAID61 ftw! [10:18] Action: Camarade_Tux will work for hardware [10:18] Zordrak: RAIDZ2 ftw. [10:18] i like raid 1 [10:18] Z2? [10:18] eviljames: don't forget she has to wear a miniskirt, but only because of the current heat ;) [10:19] Yea, zfs - it's like raid5 but without the write hole and any 2 disks can die simultaneously w/o data corruptino. [10:19] s/corruptino/corruption/ [10:19] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-148-73-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:19] Skywise: the OS will be RAID1 on velociRaptors.. but the NAS store will be RAID671 [10:19] raid 5/6 etc often fail on reconstruction cause the drives are of the same vintage in the array [10:19] *61 [10:19] Skywise: funny you should say that [10:19] and one fails the others are close behind [10:19] I think all those notions of disk management are completely obsolete. [10:19] I am sourcing the drives from as many diff distributors as possible [10:19] and combining WD and seagate [10:20] yeah, you definately need to mix them [10:20] uh.. [10:20] Not in the same array [10:20] better make sure to leave an extra 250MB at the end of every disk to take care of geometry errors [10:20] you can [10:20] Maybe have two storage arrays that drbd between each other and such [10:20] eviljames: try another wall power outlet if you have problems booting a pc [10:20] eviljames: yeah that wont be a prob [10:20] eviljames: will make sure its all sane [10:20] Skywise: except..sizes aren't always consistent between makers [10:20] Zordrak: Your mdadm manages this for you? [10:21] eviljames: heyll no [10:21] eviljames: 3war [10:21] eviljames: 3ware [10:21] straterra: sizes aren't always consistent between the exact same model of the exact same drive by the same vendor - let alone multiple drives from multiple vendors. [10:21] What makes you think 3ware will take care of it for you? [10:21] no, but its not too hard to pick a size which everyone will fit [10:21] i like to use 120gb hds and dedicate 110gb [10:21] Skywise: indeed [10:21] eviljames: If you buy them all at the same time..I've never had a box of hard drives that were all the same model come in different sizes [10:22] Skywise: and since these are all 1TB disks.. [10:22] Zordrak: seriously, for the sake of your sanity when a drive dies - make sure to leave free space! [10:22] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:22] tb disks scare me cause i can't back 'em up and i would hate to lose 1tb of anything at once [10:22] Skywise: raid them! [10:22] raid isn't backup [10:23] Skywise : back them up to other tb disks [10:23] eviljames: it will all be THOROUGHLY tested before production.. esp since the disks will be backplane-hotswap i will spend a day just pulling disks and running onto the hot spares etc [10:23] no, but it's an interim solution. [10:23] straterra: I've noticed it on more than one occasion with WD, but it was buying a one off replacement of the same model.. the drive was slightly smaller than the originals. [10:23] Action: Camarade_Tux bought an external 1tb hd, but only because it was better and less expensive than the 300GB ones [10:23] but what if someone comes along and fills my raid with pepsi [10:23] u2pian (n=guest@124.6.171.242) joined ##slackware. [10:23] Then you'd better have offsite. [10:23] what are these special logins in /etc/passwd for? It said, they are for controlling special services..How do they exactly work and why are they needed? [10:23] thankfully... this uberNAS box will be backed up onto LTO3 every night [10:23] thats what i'm saying [10:23] raid lets you dogde the first bullet [10:24] Skywise: ++ [10:24] but you always need backup [10:24] Skywise: I never claimed it was a full backup solution [10:24] A good raid array lets you dodge many bullets - but certainly not the power outage/office fire/nuclear bomb ones. [10:24] actually.. because the *1* part of the raid is across two servers using drbd, the raid lets me dodge 2 bullets... the LTO tapes take care of bullet 3 [10:24] no, but thats why i'm scared to use really large volumes [10:24] if i had a good way to backup then i'd use it [10:25] Zordrak: is this a 10TB box? [10:25] Skywise: this tape robot cost £15k so i know what you mean [10:25] yeah, and i bet thats without the tapes [10:25] eviljames: 10x 1TB disks.. each server is 4x1TB in RAID6 with hot spare [10:25] making 2TB available in RAID61 [10:26] i've been hoping for holographic dvds capable of backing up a few hundred gigs but its been 10 years now [10:26] allend (n=allend@CPE-203-51-162-86.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [10:26] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) left irc: "Leaving" [10:26] Skywise: yeah.. sucks.. at home i do offline raid [10:26] ahh, I run 2x raidz2(6x1tb) - so 10TB total storage and I depending on the disks I can have 2-4 fail simultaneously w/o service interruption (let alone data loss) [10:26] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [10:26] every week or so i duplicate a disk to another disk and then stash the duplicate [10:27] eviljames: z2? [10:27] err, 9TB total storage I think is more accurate. [10:27] Zordrak: ZFS on OpenSolaris - it makes all these notions of disk management you refer to obsolete. [10:27] lol [10:27] but.. you have to run solaris.. which makes you commit suicide.. so ill stick with 3ware managed 6s [10:28] lol [10:28] hahaha I run solaris on my laptop. [10:28] And Workstation. opensolaris is pretty damn nice. [10:28] suicide < data loss [10:28] (well, this is a dualboot osol & slack64) [10:28] until sun drops OpenSolaris [10:28] eviljames: i slack *everything* [10:28] thumbs: isn't going to happen, despite slashdot's FUD. [10:28] and zfs on freebsd? [10:28] Zordrak, is that what you'd prefer or the one that sucks the most? 8-) [10:28] Camarade_Tux: it's not bad, freebsd 8 will have much better support. [10:28] TwinReverb: :) [10:29] you guys hear the postoffice is dropping solaris for linux? [10:29] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [10:29] when searching for the truth, ignore opinions [10:29] illuz1oN` (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:29] TBH ideally id run RAID-DP... but They wont release the code (obviously) [10:29] Skywise, "the post office"? you mean the United States Postal Service? [10:29] Skywise: Yep. Replacing a bunch of old machines with newer faster ones saves them money - I'm shocked! [10:29] eviljames: according to http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFS , it seems already pretty good [10:29] hah [10:30] does anyone else have post offices? [10:30] Camarade_Tux: it was at Version 6 as of FreeBSD 7.2, pretty damn good but flaky on-disk compression and didn't have support for a few different things. [10:30] Skywise: uhh, for example Canada... but america still has a monopoly on ignoramuses! [10:30] no, they call them something else [10:30] republicans, I know... [10:30] Woo. md1 now 454G with 78mins of resync left [10:31] isn't it something postal service or something [10:31] Canada Postal Service, you mean? [10:31] was ~140G in _U [10:31] eviljames, and you're complaining of slashdot's FUD?! you've got a more powerful FUDmaker installed than they do apparently :D :P [10:31] yeah something like that [10:31] TwinReverb: hahaha I'm just a centrist with no time for the hard right :D [10:31] moderate ... :P [10:32] oh well, g'night [10:32] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [10:32] I tells ya, the best thing ever would be an independent Palin 2012 ticket. hooo boy that'd make me happy. [10:32] lol [10:32] tooly (n=tooly@e178165228.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [10:32] it would make the late night talk shows rich [10:32] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [10:33] but palin is just gonna do a talk show until people get tired of her [10:33] Why did she have to wait until Jon Stewart was halfway into vacation before she announced the resignation? [10:33] He could've spent all week on that one! [10:33] lol [10:33] don't worry there will be more [10:33] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [10:33] I'll bet Olbermann did. [10:34] allend (n=allend@CPE-203-51-162-86.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [10:34] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.160.209) joined ##slackware. [10:37] think I'm going to get home, laterz [10:38] I might go back to bed.. [10:39] isn't it a bit early? ;) [10:39] it's 07h30 where i'm at. [10:39] I thought you were -6 relative to me [10:39] eviljames: makes me happy :) [10:40] I make you happy? holy crap, we should date! [10:40] and btw, I went to bed with the earplugs and woke up on my own at 5:30am, removed the earplugs, shut down the computer, went back to bed :) [10:40] hahah nice [10:41] eviljames: lol, but it's the fact you couldn't sleep that made me happy :D [10:41] fireman party wasn't too crazy, I take it? [10:41] well, the sun already shines at 6am ;) [10:42] yeah I know... [10:42] Action: eviljames blackens the cursed sun [10:42] hrm.. [10:42] also, just before I went to bed, a firetruck drove by and had to go elsewhere because of the party >< [10:42] What is the commands again at the dvd install prompt to boot to "rescue"? [10:42] "rescue"? [10:42] I'm working throug hw eb interface and the stupid web console isn't showing me the text properly so I'm flying blind here [10:43] Camarade_Tux: yeah you can do something like: Linux root=/dev/hda1 noinitrd [10:43] oh wait.. that's it lol [10:43] ^^ [10:43] boot the cd [10:43] I'm always happy to help :) [10:43] it says the command in the boot prompt motd [10:44] u2pian (n=guest@124.6.171.242) left ##slackware. [10:44] eviljames: can't read the screen [10:44] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: "leaving" [10:44] IE8 is actually quite nice, not the best engine on earth but ui is good [10:45] Dominian: oh, suuure, NOW I read that blip of information... [10:45] I got it [10:45] Action: eviljames checks Camarade_Tux's temperature [10:45] Camarade_Tux: you feeling ok? [10:45] hugesmp.s root=/dev/hda1 rdinit=rw [10:46] er.. ro [10:46] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) joined ##slackware. [10:46] i'm never upgrading my browser [10:47] all they seem to add are vulnerabilities [10:47] well... [10:47] uhm, [10:48] Well, its a complete fucking rebuild of slackadelic.com [10:48] Action: Dominian grumbles [10:48] i still run ff2 cause ff3.5 has support for activex, which is such teh dumb [10:48] There's something really, really silly about Skywise's last statement. [10:48] Skywise, what browser r u running? ("i'm never upgrading my browser") just curious =) [10:48] the only things left are dev/ proc/ sys/ and tmp/ [10:48] ff2 [10:48] Typically you upgrade your browser in order to patch the holes of the previous version. [10:48] unless they add more holes [10:48] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.84.22.174) left irc: Success [10:48] with noscript and addblock, i don't really need anything else [10:49] Right, ff2 doesn't have holes, I forgot! [10:49] heh... r u saying it's more secure then ff3 ? [10:49] actually, i would now [10:49] I just dont understand... [10:49] noscript is very nice [10:49] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:49] well what did they really change between the 2 versions [10:49] Well, I was going to say TraceMonkey but as it stands that actually supports your point :P [10:50] to me they just added bloat, and most of the stuff they do could of been done with plugins with ff2 [10:50] and I think the actual answer is: Lots and lots. They don't increment the versions just for fun you know [10:50] sometimes they do it for fashion [10:50] Wizard (n=wziuuuuu@gentoo/user/wizard) joined ##slackware. [10:50] hi [10:50] they didn't have to drop support for the win32 kernel but they did [10:51] I'm happy anytime anyone drops support for win. [10:51] Ok.. all slackadelic.com will be down for a while [10:51] and ther eis going to be some data loss :( [10:51] win32 was the last kernel you can be sure about whats going on in your computer [10:52] hidden processes was such a good idea [10:52] eviljames: no, seriously, IE8 ui is better than many browsers' [10:52] Camarade_Tux: we've moved on from ui to security holes. How does IE8 fare there? [10:52] and their address bar is not an awesomly awfully sucking bar :) [10:53] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [10:53] yeah you can't even turn that crap off in ff3 [10:53] eviljames: catching up, I was browsing [10:53] Skywise: actually you can, by disabling every history-related piece [10:53] Skywise: but 3.5 is a bit better in this regard [10:53] Skywise: Good thing they provide the source and you can submit patches to improve the browser! [10:53] eviljames: I dunno for ie8 security holes [10:54] i've turned my nose up at ff3 [10:54] i won't have anything to do with activex on the net [10:54] Does activex run on Linux? [10:54] btw, anybody doing win32 devel? [10:54] eviljames: no! [10:54] i don't even like java, the whole idea of running someone else's software unaudited just cause you visit their website bothers me [10:55] S|ackwareX (n=a@189.187.173.190) joined ##slackware. [10:55] actually alot of sourceforge projects still support it [10:55] theres no real need to obsolete w32 [10:55] Camarade_Tux: http://secunia.com/advisories/search/?search=internet+explorer [10:55] the only difference is built in unicode support [10:55] cmair (n=cmair@host70-110-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:56] Skywise: turn down the crazy, turn up your security settings. Problem solved. [10:56] and ms never added that cause there would be no reason for people to buy nt kernel [10:56] Nick change: init[1] -> Guest31548 [10:56] its the history of the os, i'm a developer, and i threw in the towel with ms after xp came out [10:57] eviljames: http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21625/?task=advisories : one IE8-specific flaw [10:57] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-216-82.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [10:57] they're more interested in forced obsolences and driving new sales thru upgrades then providing a solid product [10:57] yeah, but look up activex flaws [10:58] you can still install slack on everything from a 486 to the latest and greatest [10:58] theres no technical reason for the actions they've taken [10:58] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [11:02] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [11:03] really leaving now, laterz :) [11:03] oh and my browser is getting closer :) [11:04] ugh, goddamn salespeople calling my cell phone at 8 am complaining their computers don'twork.. [11:04] idiots! [11:04] http://zedshaw.com/blog/2009-07-13.html [11:04] init[1]: a good rant, I thought. [11:04] eviljames: o_O [11:04] yo eviljames lon time [11:05] how goes it? [11:05] ego [11:05] omg are you guy talking to me ! [11:05] s/guy/guys/ [11:06] Camarade_Tux: ego? [11:06] eviljames: for Zed Shaw's blog post [11:06] "I don't want to be ignored again" [11:06] Action: init[1] foof.. [11:06] Maybe [11:06] and sure there are annoying people, but sometimes you want lgpl, not gpl [11:06] but, really, he makes a great point - "Open source for open source, corporations let's talk business." [11:06] lmao2k (n=nothere@82.34.242.225) joined ##slackware. [11:06] (annoying people being code stealers) [11:07] Guest31548 (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:07] eviljames: the usual solution is dual-licensing [11:07] isn't that what he's advocating? [11:08] I mean, he uses a lot of words (and much less vitriol than usual) to make that point [11:09] eviljames: well, "dual" is nowhere on the page [11:09] "I love open source, but companies? Companies are going to have to pay from now on." [11:10] "Why the fuck wouldn't I charge people money who can't use the GPL?" [11:10] Those all sound like arguments of dual-licensing to me! [11:10] i don't think companies should pay for the software [11:10] pay for expertise and customization [11:11] eviljames: to me it sounds more like he hasn't set his mind (yet) [11:11] but not for open source, i think it would be more constructive to provide coders and feedback then throw money at it [11:11] I disagree, a product worth using in a company environment is a product worth paying for. [11:11] i think the software is more of a platform then an end product [11:12] So, software developers shouldn't make money? [11:12] lol [11:12] if they wanna make money at it, then they should sell commercial software [11:12] but if its open source, then its open to everyone [11:12] and i think its the community that should benefit rather then any singular coder [11:12] i like the qt's Dual thing [11:13] init[1]: qt went lgpl [11:13] after Nokia [11:13] b4 that [11:13] it was $5,000 per seat to develop commercial QT software when I was looking into it. [11:13] eviljames: qt's way is one method to earn [11:14] but FSF say's its aganist the freedom [11:14] eviljames: but another problem is also how it "contaminates", the corresponding legal part is horrible [11:14] wtf im not getting the point [11:14] i think selling integration, installation and support is more viable then for the software [11:14] win 8 [11:14] bah [11:14] Skywise: not all softwares that of the nature your talking about [11:14] Skywise: Ahh, so the people who make the software you use every day should be treated like support staff? Janitors? [11:15] what would be an example [11:15] Making software is an art form. Some people practice painting to make great art - others paint walls to make money. [11:15] i wouldn't go that far [11:15] its just an algorithm [11:15] a method for doing something [11:16] theres a million ways to skin a cat [11:16] if you have such a novel way and you did it yourself, then sell it [11:16] Here's where we disagree. You must have been a corporate coder. [11:16] Skywise: assume a photoshop std sw ! [11:16] Which, in my analogy, puts you squarely in the painting walls category. [11:16] but that's me making wild assumptions. [11:16] quite [11:17] but on the otherhand, theres more then just commerical value to software [11:17] Absolutely - but that's not the point we're discussing. [11:17] most projects i think of as opensource started out as something someone needed for themselves and then shared [11:18] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [11:18] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.160.209) left irc: "leaving" [11:18] the whole point of open source is to have everyone contribute to the advancement of the project [11:18] i think Stallman really gets the 'point' of open source correct. It /is/ about freedom in a way. [11:18] Skywise: yes , true ,IMO , there should be a lisense that should support the devloper [11:19] if you have to pay to get in the door, most companies would walk past and pay a more reputable source [11:19] Skywise: how will coders feed their familiy [11:19] i think the developers should sell their expertise as consultants [11:19] but i don't think that opensource should provide a means of income [11:20] some people choose to contribute in kind rather then monitarily [11:20] yskapell (n=gkapel@195.134.89.99) joined ##slackware. [11:20] hello guys [11:20] hi [11:20] i want to connect in a wireless which has wpa2-psk authentication [11:20] i personally feel the best thing for me to do is to contribute bug reports and interact [11:20] yskapell: before you go too far, have you tried wicd? [11:20] in /etc/wpa_suppliant.conf it has PSK variable [11:20] what do I type in there? [11:21] no what is that? [11:21] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [11:21] it's a gui/ncurses management tool for networking. [11:21] yskapell: very, very handy, written in python - easy to use. [11:22] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-423357.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:22] i avoid commerical software because of all the limitations and obstacles [11:22] eviljames: do you have a link? [11:22] but its not always avoidable on a desktop but it is on a server [11:22] yskapell: if you're running slackware-current it's in extra/ [11:23] frankly if linux has better games, i wouldn't even have windows on any machine [11:23] I am running slackware-current [11:23] let me check [11:23] Skywise: wine, vbox, crossover [11:23] anyone know how long before 13 comes out? [11:23] Skywise: I don't see any reason to run windows, and this house hasn't in years. [11:23] I stand behind my statement that my gf is the hottest slacker :P [11:23] yeah, i've tried some, they're not playable in multiplayer [11:23] Skywise: Patrick Volkerding probably does. [11:24] he might not tho [11:24] Skywise: Other than that "When it's ready (tm)" [11:24] Skywise: and as for slack13 - When it's ready (tm) [11:24] yes, yes [11:24] BP{k}: jinx! you owe me a beer [11:24] eviljames: well mooch over and come and get it. ;) [11:24] Action: Zordrak is expecting an rc2 based on certan possible knowledge [11:24] paznak (n=paznak@dna252-169.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:24] on that note you also owe me 2 plane tickets and an all-expenses-paid european tour. [11:25] i've got 2 servers ready to be built, but i don't know if i wanna go with 12.2 or wait for 13 [11:25] Skywise: use rc1 then upgrade to 13 [11:25] 12.2 is going to be rock solid, so it's a good choice for servers [11:25] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-198.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:25] it doesn't really matter since i make a custom kernel and upgrade my packages myself [11:25] paznak (n=paznak@dna252-169.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [11:26] the rc1 to 13 upgrade process will be barely anything [11:26] but if its gonna be around, i can wait a month or 2 [11:26] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426078.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:26] eviljames: I will testing l8r [11:27] bb ppl [11:27] yskapell (n=gkapel@195.134.89.99) left irc: "leaving" [11:27] yskapell: wicd is pretty nice, I use it.. so do many others in here. [11:27] oh, fine. go then! [11:27] Skywise: personally I think it's gonna be less than a month, but that's jsut a guess. I think Patrick was atleast planning to upgrade to 2.6.29.6 (or rather, he was in here ealier this week talking about that particular kernel version). [11:27] i see [11:27] then i'll keep an eye out [11:28] BP{k}: he was in here yesterday or the day befoer debating about .29 or .30 [11:28] any resolution? [11:28] because .29 has some obvious flaws, but is better tested, whereas .30 fixes some of those flaws but has seen little testing. [11:28] rc1 notes say 29 with 30 prolly in extra [11:28] hmm [11:28] Not so much, but plenty of debate. [11:28] oh [11:29] Zordrak: I stand corrected, it looks like there was resolution - that was the solution the channel agreed on. [11:29] (but it wasn't a democratic process, Pat is our benevolent dictator!) [11:29] if its that iffy, since these are production servers, i'llprolly stick with 12.2 then [11:30] Skywise: bottom line is slack is a kernel, gcc and then source-versions of certain apps [11:30] Skywise: uhm ... you just said you used a custom kernel anyway, so the kernel wasn't issue. [11:30] lol [11:30] i have no problem running 13-rc1 in production right now [11:30] yeah, but i'm saying theres prolly no benefit to waiting for 13 [11:30] ESPECIALLY as a server requires no xorg or hal [11:30] and just do it now [11:30] Pat did talk about the use of testing/ or extra/ for a second kernel but I don't remember how that thought ended. [11:31] jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:9b) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:31] jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:9b) joined ##slackware. [11:31] i only upgrade kernels when i have an issue anyway [11:31] i don't need to be on the bleeding edge [11:32] damnnit where are all these people getting their ipv6 connectivity.... im still having trouble getting it from a business ISP providing fibre and lasel [11:32] *laser [11:32] can't you tunnel over ipv4 [11:32] everybody does that, it's just that for some people the issue that causes a kernel upgrade is "feelings of inadequacy" :) [11:32] yeah.. but tunneling sucks [11:32] hehe [11:33] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "leaving" [11:33] i guess it wouldn't be too hard to find who has ipv6 space in your region [11:33] its the routing thats the problem [11:33] hmm [11:34] I read the other day that many corporate networks in the usa have ipv6 going on the wire that they aren't aware of.. [11:34] bots & viruses and stuff. [11:34] oh sure [11:34] oh yes [11:34] Vista comes with an IPv6 stack that is enabled by default [11:34] it wouldn't be perceptible to ipv4 clients [11:34] Skywise: that's not the point [11:34] yeah.. but to receive ipv6 from *outside* you need to be addressable [11:34] virus/spyware spewing out over IPv6 links before its even widely used is bad :) [11:35] The point being: stop it now [11:36] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:36] yeah, but ms knows whats good for you [11:36] I can't wait for ipv6 to be more widespread [11:36] ipv6 sucks [11:36] every lightbulb in my house needs an IP address, and now they'll have it! [11:36] i'm not going over to it [11:37] what's the figure I read, ipv6 allows for enough IP address that every person on the planet could have something like 10 or 100 of them? [11:37] just wait until you get a pack of knockoff lightbulbs from walmart all with the same mac address [11:37] Urchlay, millions [11:37] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [11:37] vbatts (n=vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:37] Urchlay: until you figure subnetting and corps sitting on /64s or more [11:37] millions? even better [11:37] but ipv6 still sucks [11:37] Ugh, I alrady USE millions of IP addresses... wtf do I need millions more for? [11:37] each key on your keyboard will have its own ip [11:38] we're getting a /48 here [11:38] well yeah. ipv6 addresses will be treated as a falsely-scarce commodity [11:38] Action: Wizard builds builds builds [11:38] each pubic hair will have it's own ip too [11:38] Action: eviljames is the entier 3.0.0.0/8 network [11:38] it's 2^128 [11:38] the total address space [11:38] oh great, antiwire is here [11:38] but its gonna be great [11:38] jeev: that'll make it easy for me, I already name my servers after pubes.. ssh short, ssh curly.. [11:39] yeah.. [11:39] you'll be able to turn on all your appliances remotely and so will your neighbors [11:39] lol and one after the size of your weener, ssh mini [11:39] I'll be able to turn my neighbors appliaces on remotely? [11:39] and I'll be able to turn them all off... [11:39] imagine all those nice trojans.. [11:39] I'll be able to turn my neighbors on remotely? [11:39] vibrators sold with ipv6 allocations... [11:39] and all those cool botnets [11:40] \o/ [11:40] you'll be able to turn your neighborhood into a disco [11:40] a blender botnet, or a hand held electric mixer botnet [11:40] Zordrak: Sweet! Wireless vibrators.. Can keep stats on it like, time used and which intervals are used longer.. [11:40] what happens to all these devices once the internet wakes up and becomes self-aware? [11:40] it will be great when people hack the grid and spell words on the contintent after dark [11:41] lmao2k (n=nothere@82.34.242.225) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:41] That is, if it hasn't happened already. Conficker is the singularity!! [11:41] eviljames: quote "They'll kill us all" [11:41] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-157-183.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:41] realistically.. this is all stumped by one thing [11:41] if we could only get rid of windows [11:41] br00tal (n=br00tal@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) left irc: "Leaving." [11:41] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [11:41] Vibrator manufacturers dont understand ip.. so wont bother to spend money fitting it [11:42] Would we be happier with GNU/Linux or MS/Linux ? [11:42] substitute vibratorc for blender or anything else [11:42] Script kiddies hacking dildo's to make them only work on the highest intensity! [11:42] that would give a whole new meaning to getting pinged [11:42] lol [11:42] bingo [11:42] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.176.222) joined ##slackware. [11:42] GPRS Love Eggs [11:42] sybain mayhem [11:43] vbatts (n=vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [11:43] twin function as satnav [11:43] anal egg = left, vaginal egg = right [11:44] double click does what? [11:44] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-122-33-245.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [11:44] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@189.110.79.42) joined ##slackware. [11:44] omfg - there are no coffee grinds left. [11:45] WTF is an "anal egg"? ...nevermind, not sure I want to know [11:45] Urchlay: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=anal+egg [11:45] damn it, you beat me to it. [11:46] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-134-201.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:46] Good thing im the IT here... this could look bad as a search term on my record. [11:46] Action: eviljames is SO tempted to click.. [11:46] it would look quite awkward if gf got out of bed and found that search up while I was at the store getting coffee grinds [11:46] McAfee site advisor approves of the first two links with a SECURE rating! http://www.colonialmedical.com/catalog/Hidden-Treasures-Anal-p-19369.html [11:47] lol [11:47] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [11:47] agentc0re|work: hahaha wtf! [11:47] This of all channels hit the max user limit, wtf? [11:47] http://www.overstock.com/Health-Beauty/Inter-Actives-Anal-T-and-Egg-Combination-Vibrator/3646796/product.html LOL for 2.95, guaranteed!! [11:47] agentc0re|work: Price: $17.95 Extra Info: NON-RETURNABLE [11:48] eviljames: LOL [11:48] i found a web page for sudo passwordless, but im not using sudo.. how do i or more directly unpasswordlless a user... this box has no gui [11:48] VampirePenguin: su - and then just stay logged in [11:48] eviljames: eh, I am not googling for anything with "anal" as one of the terms [11:48] currently i can hit su and it jumpes to root [11:49] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=anal+timecube [11:49] VampirePenguin: is there a more specific thing are you trying to accomplish? [11:49] whats the dash accomplishing agentc0re|work [11:49] Action: agentc0re|work needs to put timecube as a popup alert when mentioned in irc [11:50] VampirePenguin: just su's to root. it's the short hand method. [11:50] i set up this box to require a psswd... but it got changed by a person who doesnt exactly have his linux eggs in the right basket [11:50] "su -"... the dash means to run a login shell (read root's .profile and such) [11:50] err ya, and that. :D [11:50] thats the problem i dont wnt to go to su/root witout a passwd [11:50] right now it escalates with none [11:50] Urchlay: Let me finish my coffee will ya :P [11:51] agentc0re|work: I'm only one cup ahead of you [11:51] keyword, ahead. [11:51] VampirePenguin: you mean you run "su" and you become root without being asked for a password? Or sudo? [11:51] yep [11:51] root [11:52] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [11:52] Hi! How to activate NVidia nForce Networking Controller ? [11:52] but su, not sudo? [11:52] no sudo not installed [11:52] S|ackwareX: modeprobe forcedeth [11:52] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [11:52] I will try thankx [11:52] hm. Honestly I'm not sure how to set up passwordless su, your linux noob who set that up must have at least done some research :) [11:53] Hello! [11:53] awesome, just saw the /. for this. http://www.hid.im/ [11:53] well his "research" is not good for a box connected to the web [11:53] p'raps something in /etc/login.defs controls it [11:53] ok ill look [11:53] ty ty gentlemen [11:53] oh I agree, passwordless su is a *terrible* idea [11:54] ...which is why I don't know, off the top of my head, how to enable/disable it :) [11:54] ive looked at the logs already this box is getting hammered [11:54] from robots [11:54] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@vpn.cusonet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:54] eh, but not robots capable of actually logging in via ssh, I hope [11:55] oh wait. I'm being dense. [11:56] check root's entry in /etc/passwd, is it missing the password entirely? [11:56] (normally the "password" will be just an x, like so: "root:x:0:0::/root:/bin/bash") [11:56] if it says "root::0:0" etc, then root doesn't *have* a password [11:59] kk let me check [11:59] ther was nothing in /etc/profile [11:59] wow, flashback to 1997 or something when i rooted my first box [12:00] you youngsters... [12:00] VampirePenguin: /etc/passwd, not /etc/profile [12:00] Zordrak (n=jaz@78.32.83.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:01] i looked i the other from above [12:01] /etc/passwd is fine too [12:01] OK, check /etc/shadow for the same condition [12:02] (except in /etc/shadow, the passwords won't be x's, they'll be long strings of gibberish) [12:02] all the users who need passords are hashed [12:02] still if you see "root::" (two colons), root has no password [12:02] it has a passwd [12:02] cute [12:03] i dont know what he did [12:03] eh, have you got physical access to this machine? If so, can you log in on the console as root without a password? [12:03] no im remote.. this is a shell box basically [12:03] i ssh in [12:04] but in my session i can escalate to root with a passwdless su [12:04] lol [12:04] ive never seen in my life [12:04] :: means empty password [12:04] you can give su and it will log you immediately [12:05] Wizard: right, I was thinking that's how the passwordless su worked (if the password's empty, it won't even ask you for it) [12:05] no ssh wont allow root logins [12:05] Neo_The_User (n=matrix@Wikimedia/Neo-The-User) joined ##slackware. [12:05] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [12:05] how do i switch to slackware64-current? [12:05] i installed slack64 now what do i do to get current? [12:05] Urchlay: you PING'd me? are you trying to DDOS me? ;) [12:05] VampirePenguin: ssh usualy does not allow root logins [12:06] so if you have regular account, use su ;D [12:06] I wonder if he did something really retarded... this is slackware, right? compare your /bin/su with the one inside the shadow package (tgz or txz package from the slackware CD or site) [12:06] how do i switch to slackware64-current? [12:06] im cunfuuuuuuus3d [12:06] :> [12:07] no actually im cum-fused [12:07] Neo_The_User: download current packages, read upgrading and go [12:07] ohh [12:07] Neo_The_User: installing current won't help you than :/ [12:08] hrrr, actually, I don't think the upgrade.txt guide will help you switch from 32-bit to 64-bit (as soon as you upgradepkg glibc-solibs, you're dead in the water) [12:08] or bash [12:08] no [12:08] i installed slack64 [12:08] http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware64-current/isolinux/README.TXT [12:08] is that current? [12:09] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [12:09] i followed the guide. do i have current already? [12:09] oh this is slack [12:09] 12.2 [12:09] i have 12.2? [12:09] Neo_The_User: depends on how frequently the utah.edu mirror updates, it might be a week out of date or so, but yes [12:09] i looked in /bin/su and its all hex/machine code [12:10] VampirePenguin: of course it is. I meant, compare the file's size and timestamp to the one that's inside the shadow tgz package [12:11] how do i update packages in slack from a diff mirror? [12:11] (the shadow tgz package you find on your slackware CD or on the FTP site, make sure the version matches /var/log/package/shadow-* version) [12:11] :) [12:12] Urchlay, me? [12:13] ughhhhhh [12:14] plz. im so cum............. fused [12:15] Neo_The_User: yes, you. If you installed from http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware64-current/, you should be running 64-bit -current already [12:15] wow. lot of broken links in slackware.org/getslack [12:16] Neo_The_User: if you want to make sure it's up to date, learn to use slackpkg (set up a mirror in /etc/slackpkg/slackpkg.conf, then "slackpkg update ; slackpkg upgrade-all" or something like that. See the docs, don't take my word for it) [12:16] reallove: want a tip? Download slackpkg 2.80.1 (slackpkg.org/stable) and take a look in mirrors list. It was updated last week. [12:17] nice [12:17] PiterPunk: I get your point,but let's say a new user wants to try slackware. The official way to get it is via the website,not slackpkg. [12:17] and he gets very frustrated when more than 50% of the USA links don't work. [12:17] reallove: did you make a list of the dead links and send it to Pat yet? [12:18] LSD` FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.27.8/modules.dep: No such file or directory [12:18] antiwire: just discovered that,while cooking :) should I ? [12:18] S|ackwareX: ? [12:18] reallove: Well you seem to feel pretty strongly about it, why not? [12:18] Hi! How to activate NVidia nForce Networking Controller ? [12:19] S|ackwareX: forcedeth is the module you need. If it's not there then you have to go looking for it :P [12:19] hm, the distro.ibiblio.org ftp mirror actually does have it, but the URL has a typo (Linux, should be linux) [12:20] okay,I'll send an email today,hopefully he will take care of that [12:20] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:20] LSD`: Ok. thankx [12:22] Neo_The_User: try to act a bit more mature even though you are not [12:22] S|ackwareX: did you change the kernel yourself? [12:22] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-157-225.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:22] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) joined ##slackware. [12:22] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-178-224.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:23] alienBOB: how bout you go mind yo beezwax? [12:23] oh lawd. [12:24] oh lawdy lawdy lawdy [12:24] I banned you once from ##slackware Neo_The_User - I have no problems banning you again [12:24] antiwire: No [12:24] i was jk! [12:24] jesus christ! [12:24] S|ackwareX: 12.2 doesn't use 2.6.27.8 [12:25] S|ackwareX: what does this show you? pastebin it: ls -ad /lib/modules/2.6.* [12:27] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] antiwire: Im using 2.6.27.8 #1 SMP [12:27] good morning slackers, again. [12:27] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-14-245.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:28] :) [12:28] S|ackwareX: So you upgraded the kernel yourself? [12:28] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-78-97.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:28] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [12:29] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-198.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:29] antiwire: No I didnt , Im a newbie. I just installed from DVD 12.2 [12:29] 12.2 doesn't use 2.6.27.8 [12:30] it's not even in patches extra or testing [12:30] <- 2.6.27.7 [12:30] from 12.2 dvd [12:31] S|ackwareX: 'uname -r' in terminal [12:31] S|ackwareX: It appears that if you are really using 2.6.27.8, whatever you've done to the system has left you with either a half installed kernel and modules or no modules installed at all for the kernel you are running. [12:32] i wonder if he did a make modules;make modules_install [12:32] Skywise: make modules is no longer need [12:32] giuppy (n=giuppy@host250-134-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:33] giuppy (n=giuppy@host215-168-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:33] does anyone here have suspend to ram working properly? [12:33] zaltekk: I do [12:33] antiwire: did you have issues with resuming? my screen stays blank [12:34] zaltekk: nope, works fine here but that type of issue is really hardware dependent [12:34] but the system is still running, because i can tell it to reboot with the keyboard [12:34] I will hopefully have noobfarm/slackadelic back up before the end of the day.. if all goes well [12:34] antiwire: i heard somewhere about some type of patches called power mamangement "quirks" i think. are you familiar with this? [12:35] nice. not even info@slackware.com address isn't working. [12:35] antiwire:ls -ad /lib/modules/2.6* [12:35] user unknown [12:35] anyone here familure with ssh? [12:35] or have a machine running sshd i could connect to for a minute to experement with ssh? [12:36] lol [12:36] ... 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[12:40] what thumbs said [12:40] thanks thumbs [12:40] epaphus: you're welcome. [12:41] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [12:41] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:41] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:45] thumbs, im gonna try using logio/combinedio with webalizer eh [12:45] _Jim_ (n=Jim@189.2.86.146) left irc: [12:45] jeev: ah. [12:45] is that a bad idear? [12:45] or should i use awstats [12:45] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.22.213) joined ##slackware. [12:45] i have 36 gigs of backlog [12:46] hello happy slackers [12:46] jeev: .... 36GB? [12:46] yea [12:46] jeev: jeebus. [12:46] it's for shared hosting people [12:46] i never gave them logs, im a turd [12:47] jeev: I've never analyzed that much data. [12:47] awstats is hazardous [12:47] i can generate it on a few other servers that are doing nothing [12:47] jeev: probably a good idea, yes [12:48] but what shall i useith ;/ [12:48] hey, does anybody have something like intltool in his/her slack? [12:49] lordsimian (n=lordsimi@144.38.70.37) joined ##slackware. [12:49] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:50] beatzz:I dont know. I a friend gave me the dvd but he didn know about linux, He just download it [12:50] Greetings everyone. :) [12:51] nice lol [12:51] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:51] giuppy (n=giuppy@host215-168-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:51] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.92.128) joined ##slackware. [12:53] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) left irc: "Changing server" [12:53] ok, input in X is still completely broken, time to debug it [12:53] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:53] y0 Camarade_Tux [12:54] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) joined ##slackware. [12:54] Camarade_Tux: xorg developer? [12:54] yoyo cloud|slug :) [12:54] Wizard: he, no :P [12:54] hah [12:54] Camarade_Tux: I ran bootgraph last night. [12:54] fire|bird: yeah, saw that in the backlog :) [12:54] fire|bird: how long is your kernel? [12:54] Most things were short, time wise, but there were some that take a while. [12:55] Camarade_Tux: 34 meters ;D [12:55] fire|bird: yeah :) [12:55] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) joined ##slackware. [12:55] Wizard: oh my god, that's huge ! [12:55] I forget the exact time, but it was 15:xx [12:56] I'm looking again to double check [12:56] 15 seconds? [12:57] Camarade_Tux: the last time measurement on the image it outputs is 15:34, but there's a few things that go beyond that. [12:57] fire|bird: bah, you could make it like 5s :) [12:57] Camarade_Tux: any tips and tricks to get it that fast? [12:57] on my powerbook it takes 15s to initialize cdrom driver :/ [12:57] Wizard: yes. That's how long the kernel is taking. :) [12:57] i don' know why :( [12:57] fire|bird: including slackware boot process is rather simple.. [12:57] and today, on lwn.net Arjan Vandeven (or something like that) said times were 1s now, I don't know if he spoke about PCs or embedded (if he talked about PCs, I'd like some of his weed...) [12:58] fire|bird: trim down [12:58] you could get twm session in 20s :P [12:58] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-16-227.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:58] fire|bird: once I get my X ok, send me your bootgraph.svg ;) [12:58] Camarade_Tux: The longest time taken is by, async_port_probe, but it looks like that runs in parallel with other stuff. [12:58] Wizard: make the cdrom driver a module [12:58] ok, will do. Just let me know whe you have X working. :) [12:58] fire|bird: have scsi in your machine (I don't remember well) [12:59] No, not that I know of, no scsi stuff. [12:59] cmair (n=cmair@host70-110-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:59] uhci_hcd_init is another time taker. [12:59] Camarade_Tux: i think it is.. [12:59] but.. [12:59] ehci_hcd_init is another one [12:59] hmm :D [13:00] Camarade_Tux: thanks for hint [13:00] fire|bird: the async_* stuff are functions that have recently been made async (i.e. they run in parallel with the rest of the boot) [13:00] Wizard: check/pastebin dmesg, it should show a problem (unless you have a dvd in the drive while booting) [13:00] ok, yeah, and that looks like what it does to, it ran while other stuff was running too. [13:01] but still, the time it takes can be made better. :) [13:01] also, it should be possible to explicitely delay load of a module, although I don't know how [13:01] Camarade_Tux: thanks, i can handle such problems [13:01] fire|bird: oh yeah, iirc async_port_probe takes time here too [13:01] fire|bird: it's one function call by sata available [13:01] piix_init is another time taker. :) [13:01] at least here [13:02] fire|bird: he, seems we have the same ;) [13:02] we probably do. :P [13:02] load average: 3,76, 1,99, 0,84 [13:02] uuuuh [13:02] I'll show you mine, it's 5s but piix and port_probe take almost everything [13:03] plus pci_init [13:03] wow, I hope to get mine going that fast. [13:03] 5s is slow ;) [13:03] watching the scrolling boot, aside from the kernel, it seems as though hal daemon takes it's sweet time. [13:03] Camarade_Tux: better than 15s :) [13:04] dmslack (n=dmslack@host94-22-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:04] fire|bird: hal & ;D [13:04] I wonder if slackware 12.2 has a cleaning tool like Ccleaner. [13:04] fire|bird: which resolution is your console? [13:04] adeodatus: hmmm, rm -rf /tmp/* [13:04] ? [13:04] thanks [13:04] :D [13:04] Camarade_Tux: iirc 1600x1200, I don't recall now, it's vga=795. [13:05] stunix (n=stian@77.16.228.217.tmi.telenormobil.no) left irc: "The system is going down for system halt NOW!" [13:05] fire|bird: doesn't it look slow to display the text? [13:05] wow...i got suspend/resume to work on my laptop ! [13:05] Camarade_Tux: no, the text goes blazing by. :P [13:05] it seems that slackware has fixed all of my linux issues [13:05] x_ (i=1000@201.78.143.149) joined ##slackware. [13:05] hello [13:05] hello [13:05] and I think I found the problem with X : I'm now plugging a mouse (already have the touchpad) [13:05] what is the easiest way to add wine to slackware 64? [13:05] hi x_ [13:05] bjornsorn (n=mint@0x50a136ec.ronxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:05] x_: afaik you need a 32bit compiler [13:06] i don't think easy enters into it [13:06] I found this [13:06] http://www.slackware.org.uk/slamd64/slackware64-current/ [13:06] but unless you have packages, you *require* a 32bit compiler afaik to compile wine [13:06] 32-bit libraries for wine [13:06] erm [13:06] For slackware 64, I mean [13:07] paznak (n=paznak@dna252-169.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi) left irc: "leaving" [13:07] well, better ask fred :) [13:07] Camarade_Tux: i thought you left 3 hours ago [13:07] ++ [13:08] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426078.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:08] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [13:08] eviljames: hmmm, I'm at home :) [13:08] Camarade_Tux, someone could make a 64-bit wine package @ linuxpackages.net / slacky.it [13:09] or you could install slamd64 and compile per their instructions. [13:09] which is a much better option [13:09] x_: better not to rely on external binary packages, plus you're using -current which means almost nobody has the same set of libraries installed [13:09] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432042.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:09] x_: don't ever rely on linuxpackages.net [13:10] Which console emulator is the most friendly to use? [13:10] Hi. [13:10] thumbs, I know of its bad reputation, but so far it didn't disapoint me [13:10] IrquiM_ (n=irquim@157.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:10] Which console emulator is the most friendly to use? [13:10] eviljames: see, I'm now using screen+irssi ;) [13:10] x_: if your system gets corrupted from a package coming from that site, we won't support you. [13:10] eviljames, I'm curious. Why do you prefer slamd64 to Slackware64? [13:10] IrquiM_ (n=irquim@157.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [13:11] Does Slackware use an initrd image and does the bootloader, by default, pass the root file system to the kernel to mount as ro or rw (read only or read/write)? [13:11] Which console emulator is the most friendly to use? [13:11] x_: because slamd64 has the libraries you need for wine [13:11] I assume LILO is still the bootloader of choice. [13:11] its not slackware so much as lilo [13:11] adeodatus: it depends on your requirements [13:11] yeah i like it [13:11] MadMoney: yes [13:11] (well, I mean the default in slackware) [13:11] i don't know why other people like that other one [13:12] And what is the Slackware default? No initrd? [13:12] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:12] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: "[BX] It's game over, man! game over!" [13:12] Which console emulator is the most friendly to use? [13:12] adeodatus: it depends on your requirements [13:12] Camarade_Tux, I'll try to download the libraries in the link and see what happens... waiting more 4 hours to download slamd64 is an idea that creeps me out [13:12] adeodatus: rxvt is nice. [13:12] crn_ (n=crn@79.135.103.206) joined ##slackware. [13:12] hello [13:12] drakov (n=higor@201.22.162.25.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:12] they all have their idiosyncracies [13:12] adeodatus: why are you ignoring me? [13:13] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:13] Because you ban people, thumbs. [13:13] sorry man [13:13] thumbs, it's the channel rules [13:13] adeodatus: You could use the Windows Hyperterminal. [13:13] jeev: huh? [13:13] just keeding [13:13] antiwire: are you around? [13:13] (or anyone else that knows) [13:14] knows wha [13:14] what [13:14] I found a pm-suspend quirk that allows my laptop to suspend and resume successfully [13:14] vi/m, grub, kde4 ==bad user [13:14] how can i make kde/klaptop use this quirk? [13:14] no idea [13:14] neither the control panek nor the klaptop settings let me specify commands [13:14] How to install rxvt ? [13:14] Speaking of kde [13:14] I tested 4.2.x [13:14] Dude, what was *that*? [13:15] x_: i hate the windows-vista like menu [13:15] what do they actually change in new versions of kde beside the icons [13:15] zaltekk, you're not alone [13:15] kde4 <3 [13:15] thumbs, any idea what software uses combinedio to calculate total bandwidth ? [13:15] not stats [13:15] Skywise, yes. For the worse. MUCH worse. [13:15] it's not perfect, yet, but it's getting there. [13:15] x_: other than the menu being screwed, i didn't notice much to complain about [13:15] it looked sleeker [13:15] zaltekk, It crashed on me [13:15] i'm still running 3.5, of course [13:15] yeah so am i [13:15] x_: i haven't had that happen, but i didn't use it for very long either [13:16] or maybe its 3.2 i forget [13:16] http://xkcd.com/225/ [13:16] zaltekk, If it didn't convince you to stay that's not good news to them [13:16] They fell into the trap of mimicking vista when Vista's default interface simply sucks [13:16] x_: i used it on a livecd [13:17] live usb drive, actually [13:17] yeah, i don't think they're gonna get joe average that way [13:17] I tested windows 7 build 7600, and damn it was fast. But I can't revert to the classic interface [13:17] count me in too ! i liked kde 4.x [13:17] =) [13:17] and it spoils the whole experience [13:17] The interface feels just too busy and annoying [13:17] just theme the interface [13:17] x_: do you know if you can turn off the new menu in kde 4? [13:18] I know, but I'm talking about Windows 7 here [13:18] do not ever forget that : frozen X, try Alt+SysRq+r ;) [13:18] and you can *not* revert to classic feel in Windows 7 [13:18] I've used that like twenty times today :D [13:18] x_: you can [13:19] comrad [13:19] Action: Camarade_Tux did that seven hours ago [13:19] yo jeev [13:19] how's stalingrad [13:19] Camarade_Tux, nope, you can't. You can go back to the gray appearance, but you can't use the classic start menu unless you pay [13:19] x_: that was a question [13:19] i don't know if you can or not [13:19] there's a free menu but it essentially sucks [13:19] x_: yes, *that* you can't [13:20] why bother with 'classic' interfaces... it's just an interface. move on. [13:20] x_: try blackbox maybe [13:20] x_, On windows 7? [13:20] eviljames, because it's just annoying [13:20] why bother with windows 7 at all? does it have any advantage over linux or any unix-like os? [13:20] does anyone here know how to set pm-utils quirks to be automatically set? or how to set them in KDE3? [13:20] whos running slack X86_64?? im sooo jelous [13:20] eviljames, it *is* very fast [13:20] =) [13:20] It's not that much faster than Vista [13:21] Vista is fast too [13:21] straterra, if you got a 3d video card yes, it is [13:21] fnord0: slackware64-current here. [13:21] Uhm..who doesn't have a video card capable of 3d? [13:21] straterra, nope, vista isn't. At least not the x64 version. Try running rybka there and see what happens [13:21] eviljames, stable in yr opinion? [13:21] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:21] fnord0: so far, so good. [13:21] you can't run with 4 processors without the interface stuttering [13:22] I'm running the 64-bit version of Vista Ultimate on several machines..and it flies [13:22] eviljames, ohhh that makes me sooo happy [13:22] x_: why not? [13:22] I have one processor..and it runs fine. [13:22] (you can do that in xp x86 and windows 7) [13:22] eviljames, i cant wait for slack 13, i waiting to try X86_64 [13:22] Standard XP doesn't support 4 processors [13:22] x_: see blackbox, litestep, ... [13:22] You need a special license for that [13:22] bjornsorn (n=mint@0x50a136ec.ronxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: "Leaving" [13:23] Camarade_Tux, I don't know why, but if I use all 4 processors the interface in vista gets dog slow sometimes and the analysis takes much longer [13:23] standard XP supports a maximum of 2 processors. [13:23] straterra, I was using XP pro [13:23] x_: "analysis"? [13:23] So does Vista, I believe [13:23] x_: You had to buy a special license for it then [13:23] Camarade_Tux, yes. Rybka is a chess analysis engine [13:23] ah, ok [13:23] standard XP Pro license supports a maximum of 2 processors [13:23] x_: tried setting the "affinity" in the task manager? [13:24] pebo_ (n=jdavis@77-56-181-136.dclient.hispeed.ch) joined ##slackware. [13:24] eviljames, if u dont mind commenting on it... how does slackware64-current handle 32bit libraries and binaries... meaning, what dirs they get put in? I am soo curious about how its all going to play out [13:24] Rybka? [13:24] lol [13:24] straterra, Really? It saw all my 4 logical processors in my core 2 quad [13:24] what a name :D [13:24] firebird619 (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:24] Thats 4 cores [13:24] 4 cores != 4 processors [13:24] eviljames, do u know if it is ok to run slackware64-current in a VMware or virtualbox machine? [13:24] straterra, oh, sorry [13:24] X will make me mad ! [13:24] or does ANYONE know if it works/is ok to run slackware64-current in a VMware or virtualbox machine? [13:25] fnord0: you need a 64bit host [13:25] Camarade_Tux, yes. That doesn't work, but I can configure rybka to use only 2 cores [13:25] scubacuda__ (n=rog@netblock-68-183-173-103.dslextreme.com) joined ##slackware. [13:25] i've never tried, and just not thought about it [13:25] Camarade_Tux, of course the analysis is simply not as good then [13:25] x_: and are you sure that app scales properly? [13:25] Camarade_Tux, what exactly do you mean? [13:25] Also..Vista is TONS better with multiple cores/processors than XP was [13:25] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-44-67-19-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [13:26] Camarade_Tux, ahhhh, would kubuntu64 fit the bill? i would assume so... and another question, have u tried it, if soo what distro u running to try slackware64-current in VM (sorry for barrage of questions!) [13:26] fnord0: it would be fine, provided that you've got a 64 bit processer, running in 64 bit mode, and you have VT or amd-v [13:26] straterra, perhaps this is true with vista x86, but it wasn't what I experienced in vista x64 [13:26] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:26] doctor: i'm sparticus. donna: and i am too. [13:26] Both fred and myself can attest to it. We both run Vista 64-bit [13:26] fnord0: yes, it would, you will also need support from your cpu, which cpu is it? [13:26] eviljames, i fit all catagories (intel q6600) but no 64bit OS right now... i do have copy of vist x64 but its not installed right now [13:27] straterra, I even experienced stuttering sound when I was analysing my matches [13:27] the proc in my desktop doesn't have VT >:( I'm probably going to pick up a Q8400 to replace it (as I think it is fried from a power surge). [13:27] (basically what eviljames said) [13:27] straterra: hand in your slackware card. [13:27] fred: you too. [13:27] eviljames: mine doesn't either ='( [13:27] spook: I don't run slackware [13:27] fnord0: I would just make a partition and put slackware64 on that. [13:27] straterra: hand in your geek card then [13:27] Uh..why? [13:27] Thanks To Everybody [13:27] spook, hahahahahah! [13:28] I will download form Slackware and install again [13:28] Cause I don't run Slackware? [13:28] bah, really, that new X made linux just like windows : it starts failing on its own and you don't know why [13:28] straterra: cause you run vista :) [13:28] So? [13:28] I moved from Linux to Vista on my workstation for performance reasons [13:28] Dominian (n=dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: "leaving" [13:28] straterra: care to elaborate? [13:29] Camarade_Tux, dude, if only MS allowed you to revert easily to classic behavior in windows 7... it would be great. I can't believe on how dumb they are. [13:29] wait, what? [13:29] straterra: that makes absolutely no sense [13:29] Camarade_Tux: Sure. I got better performance in Vista than Linux [13:29] spook: What part doesn't make sense? [13:29] eviljames, i have a live kubuntu64, not installed... maybe i should just partition out slackware64-current and play... i just been waiting impatiently for slack13 [13:29] straterra: do you know from what? [13:29] spook, it does if slack was too fast for him [13:29] Dominian (i=1000@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [13:29] Dominian (i=1000@noobfarm.org) left irc: Client Quit [13:29] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:29] Camarade_Tux: Yeah..Linux was running too slowly [13:30] And it was pissing me off greatly [13:30] uhuh. [13:30] l2linux? [13:30] what? [13:30] mmm... he already said vista x64 was fast. Now he's saying Linux was performing too slowly. Is he being sarcastic? [13:31] x_: No? [13:31] I'm being serious [13:31] no hes being quite serious [13:31] straterra: that I got it, but "slow" can be relative, did you have a benchmark or a workload, did you just found it slow? and is it just faster wrt. computing performance, or is it the interface, or...? [13:31] straterra, hahaha [13:31] which is why he needs to hand in all his computer related cards [13:31] straterra, thats ludacris [13:31] spook, lol [13:31] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:32] pebo_ (n=jdavis@77-56-181-136.dclient.hispeed.ch) left ##slackware. [13:32] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:32] spook: If I had it my way, Linux would improve greatly or die. Linux, in tons of scenarios, fails in comparison to other 'unix like' os's [13:32] Nick change: firebird619 -> fire|bird [13:32] Camarade_Tux: Excessive swapping, and the whole system running slower in general [13:32] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [13:32] then turn off swap [13:32] One thing it is great in chess analysis software is that no matter how many cores you have, it can push your system to the limit [13:33] slack + fluxbox or blackbox is insanely fast [13:33] btw, I found any windows versions (that includes Me) better than any debian-based distro and friends [13:33] so you can know how it behaves on full load [13:33] even ubuntu is better than Me [13:33] even OS/2 is better than Me [13:34] spook, me is not that bad... if you don't touch it a lot. Just like any Win9x OS... [13:34] straterra: and were you running a memory hungry app? I mean like suddenly an app was needing hundreds of MBs at once [13:34] ? [13:34] i think i've (mostly) found the solution to forcing all calls to pm-suspend to use --quirk-vbe-post. [13:34] Camarade_Tux: of course [13:34] no, Me is the worst OS ever. [13:34] I may need to put in a request for a workstation that can take more memory [13:34] spook, Wasn't Hurd the worst OS ever? [13:34] 98 and SE were millions of times better than Me [13:34] i need to create a hook in /etc/pm/sleep.d/, but I don't know how. the directory is empty and i can't figure out how quirks are enabled from there [13:35] any idea how this script would look? [13:35] x_: are you kidding? i run GNU/Hurd on all my machines! [13:35] giuppy (n=giuppy@host154-161-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:35] wow, I can be so low >:) [13:35] zaltekk: where are you getting that path from? [13:35] Dominian (i=dominian@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [13:35] spook, suuure [13:35] straterra: tried making linux page much earlier, like windows does? [13:35] straterra: (1) it exists on my system, and (2) it is in the man page for pm-suspend [13:36] is this apm? [13:36] asking me spook? [13:36] it is acpi [13:36] or apci...i alwasy get it backwards [13:36] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:36] second one. [13:37] acpi is something to do with cpu instructions [13:37] whops [13:37] Jiraia_ (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:287) joined ##slackware. [13:37] other way round :( [13:38] isn't the apm package only for older computers (which only support... apm)? [13:38] Camarade_Tux: yes [13:39] Camarade_Tux: i asked because if hes trying to use apm there will be problems [13:39] ok, we agree then :) [13:39] Action: Camarade_Tux wouldn't mind his X working [13:39] Camarade_Tux: use a bigger hammer [13:40] spook: hmmm, I might consider that option... later [13:40] I'd be ok if it were video which died, but it's input! [13:40] hmm. okay, there is a second directory with scripts for the same purpose. maybe i can modify them [13:41] scubacuda_ (n=rog@68.183.173.103) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:42] I could just disable that hal thing for input but that's not the good way to go, there's a bug and I'd like to solve it, at least for others [13:42] there we go [13:42] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:42] jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:9b) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:42] that folder solved my problems (for now, at least) [13:43] http://www.bbspot.com/News/2008/06/microsoft-abandons-internet-explorer-8.html [13:44] zaltekk, im on backtrack linux right now and i got example files in /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/ [13:44] zaltekk, multiple files i could post as examples [13:45] zaltekk, these files = 00clear 05led 10NetworkManager 48hid2hci 49bluetooth 50modules 55wicd 90clock 94cpufreq 95led 98smart-kernel-video 99video [13:45] fnord0: you're on backtrack4 which is based on ubuntu :) [13:45] Camarade_Tux, yes, u are correct... i am a sad kid that they left slackware [13:45] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.92.128) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:45] nice, 10NetworkManager, 55wicd :) [13:46] fnord0: backtrack != slackware. [13:46] Camarade_Tux, i will be moving/dual booting with slackware 13 X86_64 soon! [13:46] init[1]: haha [13:46] init[1]: microsoft is so lame eh? [13:46] fnord0: yea, i saw. i think what i need to do is use ADD_PARAMETERS to /etc/pm/config.d/blah [13:46] The programmers working on Internet Explorer 8 were excited. "I can't wait to stop working on IE8, fucking thing sucks. [13:46] init[1]: *yawn* [13:46] :( [13:46] BP{k}, i know, i was mentioning my directory in that i could give him some examples, which may work with sleep.d [13:46] straterra: btw, compiling code on windows? [13:47] From time to time [13:47] BP{k}, its quite true the os's are different but alot is the same (they are both linux) [13:47] BP{k}, i am a slackware man until the death [13:47] BP{k}, heheh =) [13:47] fnord0: heh and even a bigger difference between BT4 and aslackware ;) [13:48] BP{k}, indeed [13:49] ayyyy.. sh*t [13:49] current has too much dependencies.. [13:49] Wizard: ?? [13:49] and my slackintosh is too old [13:49] :/ [13:49] Action: BP{k} throws Wizard 25p to buy a real computer ;) [13:49] i mean: i wanted to run slackbuild for xfce from -current [13:49] p? [13:49] what's p? [13:50] BP{k}, what i'd _love_ to see is someone put out a package deal like ala dropline or freerock gnome that encompasses all BT4 into slackware [13:50] slackbuilds :) [13:50] oddsock (n=oddsock@cable-11-115-242-80-static.broadband.blic.net) joined ##slackware. [13:50] straterra: what are you using to compile? msvc, mingw, mingw-w64? [13:51] Camarade_Tux, yes, but that means i gotta do it individually (and u bet i will be doing that) but they dont have ALL the apps BT does that concentrate on pentesting [13:51] aha! got it. just in case anyone wants to know, it just took: sudo echo 'ADD_PARAMETERS="--quirk-vbe-post"' > /etc/pm/config.d/00quirks [13:51] now my laptop actually acts like it is a laptop [13:51] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [13:52] zaltekk, woot good job =) [13:52] fnord0: while it would be nice to have all those tooling on SBo. It's gonna ba quite a job for someone to maintain and keep track of all those builds. [13:52] zaltekk: what does that do exactly? [13:52] BP{k}, very true [13:52] BP{k}, just a wish i have [13:52] Jiraia_ (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:287) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:52] fnord0: it's good to have ambitions ;) [13:52] aceofspades19: makes pm-suspend work with my "quirky" video card that needs the bios to reenable video after it resumes. [13:53] Camarade_Tux: msvc [13:53] zaltekk: very nice [13:53] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:287) joined ##slackware. [13:53] great success [13:53] drakov (n=higor@201.22.162.25.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [13:53] it automatically adds it to the command line so that acpid, hal, kde, etc all work properly with suspend and i'm not stuck running "pm-suspend --quirk-vbe-post" from the command line every time i want to close the lid [13:53] nice [13:54] the next step is to get X to lock when i close the lid [13:54] zaltekk, i wrote that down, to save for later --- when i get a laptop =) [13:55] fnord0: the quirks will be different...but that is how you use them globally [13:55] zaltekk, i soo want a small little eee pc/netbook thing [13:55] powtrix__ (n=powtrix@189-69-28-219.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:55] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-166-68-63.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:55] zaltekk, for sure, i get the overall jist of what yr doing [13:55] fnord0: i have a 17in widescreen :P [13:55] zaltekk, hahahah - pimp [13:56] i picked up a Swiss Army laptop backpack at best buy for it [13:56] hibernate....didn't work... [13:57] straterra: ok, thanks [13:57] it looked like a normal restart [13:57] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "leaving" [13:57] oh well, at least suspend to ram works now [13:57] Anybody who is using intel, is XvMC enabled? [13:57] on 13rc1 [13:57] eviljames: easy test : does h264 decode/display fast enough? :P [13:58] Camarade_Tux: totally fresh install, no data on the machine yet. [13:58] eviljames, do you suggest me to download slamd64 12.2 or current? [13:58] slackware64-current, followed by slamd64's offering of compat packages [13:59] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-178-251.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:59] eviljames, ohhh good call! never thought of that... re slamd64 compat packages! [14:00] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-64-47.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:00] hi slack' men =) [14:00] eviljames, Do you know where I can get a DVD iso ready to be downloaded? [14:00] (current slamd64) [14:01] hi, x_ and eviljames [14:01] afaik, there isn't one available, but rsync -azPv rsync://rsync.gtlib.gatech.edu/slamd64/slackware64-current DEST should do the trick. [14:01] fred, hi [14:01] eviljames, je n'arrive pas à faire marcher wine 64 ça me gonfle lool [14:01] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:01] oups sorry [14:01] eviljames, But I'd have to create the iso myself after that, wouldn't I? [14:01] fredoslack: English [14:01] yes sorry thumbs [14:01] x_: these are just packages, not an install (from slamd64) [14:02] slackware64 should be installed already. [14:02] eviljames, I think I'll stick to slamd64 12.2. Will the compat packages from it do the trick? [14:02] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:02] fredoslack: no? there are instructions http://mirrors.vbi.vt.edu/mirrors/linux/slamd64/slackware64-current/README.TXT [14:02] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:03] Why is everything written java so damned hideous? [14:03] written in * [14:03] i watch, eviljames [14:03] hiptobecubic: hideous code is the developer's fault, not the language. [14:03] eviljames, thanks, i put in my favorites [14:03] i mean the gui [14:03] i will watch later [14:04] put it * [14:04] hiptobecubic: swing [14:04] thanks ! [14:04] swing? [14:04] the java ui thing [14:04] fredoslack: wine64 -> pre-alpha quality [14:04] Camarade_Tux, it works ? [14:04] emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-84-222.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:05] I don't know java. I'm just looking at all of these ugly applets and webapps [14:05] fredoslack: you need at least gcc-4.4.0 otherwise it won't compile =) [14:05] emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-84-222.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:05] any known problem with irssi and Freenode , not able to receibe PONG ? [14:05] i've tried to compile wine but [14:05] surprise! [14:05] hiptobecubic: "swing" is the java crossplatform gui toolkit [14:05] a lot of dependences are missing lol [14:05] Camarade_Tux, ok thanks [14:05] fredoslack: these dependencies shouldn't be missing [14:05] Camarade_Tux: is that new? I hadn't seen any issue with whatever gcc was on slamd64 or slackware64 [14:05] I don't recall having dependencies problems [14:05] (reinstalling all that stuff atm) [14:06] eviljames: it *IS* required [14:06] x_, is this what u where looking for, because its what i am looking for =) ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/ISO-images/slackware/Current-ISO-build/slackware64-current-14_Jul_2009-DVD.iso [14:06] oddsock (n=oddsock@cable-11-115-242-80-static.broadband.blic.net) left ##slackware. [14:06] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:06] the gcc-current isn't 4.4 ? [14:06] fnord0, Nope, I just have that [14:06] eviljames: I got that info from someone who knows (and checked by myself) [14:07] x_, ok, my bad... u were looking for a iso of all the packages from slamd64? [14:07] zaltekk, alright, so swing is decent. i wish i saw it in use more often [14:07] fredoslack: no, 4.5 [14:07] someone remind me how hibernate works with linux [14:07] fnord0, I was asking evil james if getting slamd64 12.2 would do the trick instead of getting -current [14:07] isn't all memory just written to the pagefile, and then put back in ram when you power up? [14:08] x_ im soo ignorant! sorry! [14:08] any one can tell something about AMD Geode processor ? [14:08] performance under Slackware with 2.6. kernel ? [14:08] fnord0, Oh, no problem, really. [14:08] I wish to buy netbook with that on 500 MHz [14:09] zaltekk: yes [14:09] hmm. it acted like i just rebooted [14:09] x_: 12.2 is not the same as the slackware64-current packages from slamd64 [14:09] firefox asked if i wanted to restore my session when i opened it [14:09] but otherwise it acted as if i just hit the power button [14:09] Action: fredoslack take his Harapp's mini [14:10] eviljames, I know, but I'm thinking of ditching slackware64 and going for slamd64 instead [14:10] don't miss the next episode of does Camarade_Tux and X : does hal die as soon as started? [14:11] zaltekk: did you *configure* your system for hibernation? [14:11] alienBOB: i just got it setup to properly suspend. this was my first test of hibernate [14:12] you have installed current with ext4' file system ? [14:12] current-slack [14:13] if /var/run/hald/ only contains hald-runner and hald-local, does that mean that hal isn't running? [14:13] alienBOB, wow, _the_ alienBOB? if so, i gotta say a million thank yous, yr website and packages have saved me a _million times over_! [14:14] I don't know why I'm asking, I know it's dead [14:14] fnord0, paypal alienBOB [14:14] x_: i used slamd64-12.2 quite successfully for the last little while, it's a great system. [14:14] :) [14:14] eviljames, Ok... I'll get the torrent [14:14] DeeeeP, =) i know i should [14:14] x_: but with slackware64, slamd64 it seems has changed focus to compat packages for slackware [14:15] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:15] x_: you'll get some of it from me, I'm seeding :D [14:15] anyhow, time to go get some car insurance. bbl [14:15] yay [14:15] eviljames, drive fast... errrr not [14:16] and drink a lot [14:16] I'll take care of your girlfriend :) [14:16] lol [14:16] ha [14:16] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-168.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:16] and I'll sell her to get input working in X ='( [14:17] Camarade_Tux: What makes you think he'd trust you with her? :P [14:17] fire|bird: him being in jail and not having a choice [14:17] fire|bird: nothing, but I don't care if he's dead :) [14:17] damn you russians are crazy [14:17] Camarade_Tux: Well, you gonna move to Canada then? [14:17] from France [14:18] fire|bird: no, I'll invite her to Paris ;) [14:18] zaltekk: Oh, I'm sure there's many other choices besides Camarade_Tux. :P [14:18] and if she won't come to Paris? [14:18] Camarade_Tux, the kremlin will allow you to fly girls into your secret spying spot France? [14:18] fire|bird: she will -_- [14:18] jeev: yeah, we can take 10 per year -_- [14:20] Camarade_Tux: How many have you taken already this year? [14:20] is there a way to remove the next 100 lines in vi ? [14:20] to delete [14:20] if i rebuild everything from slackbuild will it still be slackware? :P [14:20] fire|bird: 13 :D [14:20] jeev: 100dd [14:21] If you rebuild everything, it may be Wizardware. :P [14:21] :) [14:21] Camarade_Tux: Ah, is that a just a coincidence that it matches the next slackware version? :P [14:22] fire|bird: fully random number :D [14:22] cool thanks comrad. [14:22] Camarade_Tux: yup, sure, uh huh. :P [14:23] Action: Camarade_Tux shouldn't have said 100dd, he should have said V100jd >< [14:24] lol [14:25] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:25] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:287) left irc: "Leaving" [14:26] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [14:26] >>>>>><<<<<< I straced hald and didn't notice the "DIE" at first >< [14:27] bop (n=bop@89.152.190.160) joined ##slackware. [14:27] Camarade_Tux: lol, but now you did. :) [14:28] stunix (n=stian@77.16.228.217.tmi.telenormobil.no) joined ##slackware. [14:28] \o/ [14:28] fixed? [14:28] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [14:28] hal at least [14:28] nice [14:28] \o/ [14:28] ok, now I need you to check if the /var/cache/hald/ exist on your computers [14:29] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [14:29] yup, I have that. [14:29] fire|bird: -current, right? [14:30] yeah [14:30] techgeek (n=fredrik@212-181-135-74-no29.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:30] SPNG (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:31] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.22.213) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:31] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [14:33] rrh_ (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [14:33] fire|bird: what is the creation date of that folder (relatively to the other folders in the same parent folder) [14:34] Hello [14:34] hello [14:34] Camarade_Tux: checking....sec [14:34] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:34] Camarade_Tux: drwxr-xr-x 2 haldaemon haldaemon 22 2009-06-26 01:56 hald/ [14:35] bop_ (n=bop@89.152.190.160) joined ##slackware. [14:35] There's some in there created 2008 and some even 2003. [14:35] guys, can anyone point me to a documentation about setting up hibernate / suspend in hal? [14:36] powtrix__ (n=powtrix@189-69-29-188.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:36] I have pm-utils, but xfce uses hal [14:36] pm-utils uses hal [14:36] bop_ (n=bop@89.152.190.160) left irc: Client Quit [14:37] doesnt it? [14:37] bop_ (n=bop@89.152.190.160) joined ##slackware. [14:37] oi [14:38] dunno, pmutils works, clicking in suspend on xfce doesn't [14:38] says hal needs to be configuredf [14:38] i see [14:38] are you getting this error? [14:38] Suspend or hibernate are only supported through HAL, which is not available [14:39] yes [14:39] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:39] bop_ (n=bop@89.152.190.160) left irc: Client Quit [14:39] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/upgrade-to-slackware-12.2-xfce4.6-xfce4-power-manager-doesnt-work-720707/ [14:40] i found that thread [14:40] but im not sure how he fixed it [14:40] please, don't remind me of hibernate ;/ [14:40] thanks [14:40] he said it worked after he rebooted [14:40] :\ [14:40] lol [14:40] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432042.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:40] :p [14:41] added myself to the power group [14:41] ah [14:41] so it was useful [14:41] I'll find out after a reboot :) [14:41] yea [14:41] :P [14:41] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:42] cant hurt if you are in that group anyway [14:42] it helps with other things too [14:42] fire|bird: what do you have in /var/run/hald/? [14:42] hald-local/ hald-runner/ pid [14:42] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [14:43] y0 init[1] [14:43] hi fire|bird [14:43] still with the same name [14:43] haha, for now. :) [14:43] bop (n=bop@89.152.190.160) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:43] I have grouped another nick though, phoenix|storm. :) [14:44] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/what-does-rc-stand-for-31758/#post150259 [14:44] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [14:44] artv61_: less spamming. [14:44] sorry [14:44] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.227) joined ##slackware. [14:44] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:45] fire|bird: do you knowa a fact about pheonix? [14:47] init[1]: Well, that nick, phoenix|storm, is meaning phoenix (i.e. the mythical bird, i.e. a firebird). facts about that you mean? [14:47] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] its sounds almost *nixish :P [14:47] shamus (n=shamus@user-5440cf16.wfd78a.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:48] hello [14:48] :D [14:48] yea i know that was childish :) [14:48] haha [14:48] nixish, well, it sort of does. [14:48] hi shamus [14:48] shamus: hello [14:48] how can i edit the thing when you start slackware up. -- you login in then it says some message/ quote etc. [14:48] hello [14:48] fortune [14:49] shamus o'malley? [14:49] no [14:49] o reilly [14:49] motd i guess [14:49] yes how can i alter that? [14:49] hey took out the x from the /etc/passwd file [14:49] what a d/a [14:50] shamus (n=shamus@user-5440cf16.wfd78a.dsl.pol.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:50] gdub (n=gdub@99.199.136.160) joined ##slackware. [14:50] shamus (n=shamus@user-5440cf16.wfd78a.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:51] shamus: just editing /etc/motd would do [14:51] ok [14:51] i got thrown off the server somehow [14:51] fire|bird: phoenix|storm? You remind me of that dude on Hackers that couldn't pick a good "handle" :P [14:52] agentc0re|work: hahaha [14:52] agentc0re|work: I just thought of that nick last night, and a phoenix is a firebird. :) [14:52] agnix <-- wow wow [14:52] cool combo [14:53] agnix, that sounds too much like agnus. :P [14:53] fire + nix [14:53] init[1]: the motd i checked and it just says linux kernel whatever. i think maybe it is something else. ? [14:53] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-134-193.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:53] shamus: just put your name in that file [14:53] The motd is in /etc/mots [14:53] Possibly /etc/issue too [14:54] fire|bird: luck that you didn't miss out *g* :P [14:54] lucky [14:54] ok [14:54] init[1]: lol [14:54] The fortune is taken from a database - see /etc/profile.d/bsd-games-login-fortune.sh [14:55] is that what the y set is for? >.> [14:55] bsd games [14:55] alienBOB: mots is a file? [14:55] motd [14:55] its not the fortune its something else [14:55] Necos: y is very important :) it has pom(6) [14:56] BP{k}: i thought that was the y disk set :P [14:56] shamus: then tell us what exactly you see [14:56] just login and there is a message or a long list of text [14:56] shamus: as he said /etc/motd edit it [14:56] ok [14:56] heya BP{k}, how are you? [14:56] please stand by for the national anthem [14:56] fire|bird: not too shabby. :-) yourself? [14:56] shamus: that text is the fortune cookie! [14:56] australias all etc..... [14:56] ok [14:56] BP{k}: doing excellent, thanks. :) [14:56] so it is the program fortune.? [14:57] shamus: it comes with bsd-games package [14:57] shamus: see the shell script I refered to [14:57] ok thanks for telling me [14:57] You can compile your own fortune database if you want to customize the texts [14:57] yes [14:57] how would i do that? [14:58] Action: init[1] o_O [14:58] YFGI [14:58] VanRoy (n=kitsilan@LAubervilliers-151-12-1-154.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:58] glen2 (n=glen@78-86-231-25.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:58] R0O7 (n=sander@217.120.66.128) joined ##slackware. [14:58] Meaning - If I have to google it to tell you, you may as well do the research yourself [14:59] ok [14:59] sorry [14:59] fire|bird: you're new handel, Cyber Angel! [14:59] fire|bird: http://www.rootcompromise.org/hhg/ [14:59] agentc0re|work: hahahaha, I think I'll leave that one for you. :) [15:00] rrh_ (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:00] but, you can s/Cyber/Agent/ so, agent|angel. :P [15:00] fire|bird: go to the site. i just typed in this, fire|bird phoenix|storm [15:00] agentc0re|work: yeah, just checking it now. thanks. [15:01] fire|bird: "Wanna quit fakin' the funk like Joey from Hackers?" -quoted from the site. LOL [15:01] haha, yeah, I see that. :) [15:01] fire|bird: It's just what i told you! :P hahaha. [15:01] Nick change: icarus_ -> icarus [15:01] It gave me Green Cell, using my real name. [15:02] guys, please tell me a recording software [15:02] lol, Bow to the l33tness of Green Cell [15:02] hum... screencast, I mean [15:02] Kaapa: a recording software [15:02] alienBOB: by the way what does yfgi mean? [15:02] Kaapa: xvidcap and recordmydesktop are good. [15:02] thumbs: :S [15:02] fire|bird: ty [15:03] Kaapa: recordmydesktop is on slackbuilds.org and alienBOB's repo has xvidcap [15:03] Kaapa: that's what you asked for, exactly. [15:03] hehe [15:03] fire|bird: which one is better / simpler / more effective? [15:03] I'll just take your word [15:03] fire|bird: NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN! [15:04] Kaapa: both are simple and work very well. personally, I usually use xvidcap [15:04] Hi Neo_The_User [15:04] agentc0re|work: :O, Data Storm. :P [15:04] from firebird [15:05] fire|bird: is the output .ogg? [15:05] agentc0re|work: lol, I could combine those two, Green Data Storm Cell. :P [15:05] Kaapa: iirc, yes, but I haven't used it in a little while, so I can't remember. [15:06] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:06] fire|bird: geez, recordmydesktop doesn't have a gui? [15:06] damn [15:06] Kaapa: yes, there is one, you have to go get it and build it, qt-recordmydesktop. [15:07] I'll search for xvidcap [15:07] xvidcap does have a gui [15:07] Kaapa: as I mentioned, alienBOB's repo has it. [15:07] xvidcap that is [15:07] agentc0re|work: haha, "Spoofed Phreak" [15:07] http://www.slackware.org.uk/people/alien/slackbuilds/ ? [15:07] Kaapa: yup [15:08] thanks mate [15:08] you're welcome [15:08] who is alien? [15:08] alienBOB? [15:09] i dont know [15:09] oh [15:09] he was on here [15:09] Neo_The_User: yes, alienBOB [15:09] shamus: your the guy who hates google, right? [15:10] yes i prefere yahoo [15:10] it was here before google [15:10] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [15:10] ive been using yahoo for over 10 years [15:10] i meant search engines in general [15:10] bing is working nice in my case [15:11] bing sucks [15:11] cuz its development by Microshit [15:11] it's not lee no more better than google [15:11] less [15:11] ok yes i did look up fortune but could only find a czech mirror of source code [15:11] sorry if i speak a bad english lol [15:11] i did stumble accross something called bastard operator from hell [15:11] fredoslack, your english is fine [15:12] shamus: what you want exactly [15:12] hell doesn't exist [15:12] Neo_The_User, ok thanks lol [15:12] to display a custom message? [15:12] like Welcome to Darskstar blah blah .. [15:12] i just wondered what that thing was called when you start up slack. someone said it was fortune, so i was looking for the source code to compile some extra messages [15:13] init[1]: haha, that site agentc0re|work gave me, for your nick, it gives "Zen Atom" [15:13] fortune(6) [15:13] fredoslack, no problem [15:13] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [15:13] and you do not need source code to make more files for fortune [15:13] fire|bird: i tired that [15:13] Greeeting [15:13] :) [15:13] ok how do i add more robo? [15:13] funny names [15:13] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [15:14] init[1]: lol, l33tness gives "Psycho Geek" [15:14] :P [15:14] try slackware [15:14] init[1]: :O, this is a good one "Neural Void" [15:14] it gives out a jumbo name [15:15] init[1]: yeah: slackware gives: Cyber Toxic Paradox [15:15] man so many things setup in the kernel modules for things I don't even need [15:15] should I remove them? [15:15] 10gbit network cards [15:15] shamus: see [15:16] "man fortune" might point you in the right direction. I don't know, never did it, but I know someone who maintains a Slackware-centric quote database. [15:16] S|ackwareX (n=a@189.187.173.190) left irc: [15:16] LinuxEA (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:16] see what init[1] ? [15:17] either you use fortune / edit /etc/motd [15:17] ok thanks [15:18] i think my hardware bus needs a new token. [15:19] http://fauxascii.com/linux/data/ [15:19] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl12-47.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:20] agentc0re|work: haha, I just tried silver|gold on that site, silver|gold = Digital Assclown [15:20] Hey Lord_Khelben [15:21] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [15:21] hello everyone [15:21] Lord_Khelben: How are you? [15:21] fire|bird Kaapa - I also added a recordmydesktop package to slackware64-current/extra [15:22] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:22] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:22] I hope Pat will sync 64bit and 32bit and add a recordmydesktop package to slackware-current too [15:22] i am trying to figure why i have 10sec lag. other than that nice :) how about you [15:22] Neo_The_User (n=matrix@Wikimedia/Neo-The-User) left irc: "neo-technical.wikispaces.com for general tech support" [15:22] Lord_Khelben: doing excellent, thank you. [15:22] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [15:22] hehe i just found out if if type in fortune -o out comes the offensive stuff [15:23] Hah, the little git left [15:23] lol [15:25] R0O7 (n=sander@217.120.66.128) left ##slackware. [15:25] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl12-47.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "back soon" [15:25] alienBOB, you wrote the readme_crypt.txt right? [15:25] Yes [15:27] Then I must say, Good Job :) [15:27] alienBOB made/wrote a lot of things [15:27] Hehe.. I was expecting a lot of Q's [15:28] the installer is a lot of alienBOB's work. [15:28] alienBOB, hehe :) I've even got a sd-card in the mix too :) [15:29] homecable (i=open@206.225.143.78) left irc: Client Quit [15:29] user05439 (n=dsgjkls@ppp-69-223-58-244.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] I have a lot of respect for alienBOB and the others that put in so much time in both slackware and slackbuilds.org. They make my usage of slackware a lot easier :) [15:29] alienBOB: is easy "make compatibility" libs? (I need to use Citrix Program Neighborhood but exist only 32bits) [15:30] y0 gar0t0 [15:30] fire|bird: hey :) are you doing ok ? [15:30] alienBOB: i 've looked at /etc/motd and can't find where it says to load the program fortune upon login does anyone know? i just want to add a -o to the end so that offensive messages come up [15:31] to fortune [15:31] gar0t0: yeah, doing excellent, thanks. Just checking this site agentc0re|work gave me for generation nicks. you? [15:31] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl10-185.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:31] BTW anyone with a Slackware subscription, it looks like the DVD price dropped 10 dollars just now, [15:32] sweet [15:32] Plus, the DVD will have 32bit as well as 64bit while the CDROM set will be 32bit only as always [15:32] wb Lord_Khelben :) [15:32] thank you :) [15:32] shamus: I told you what script runs the fortune [15:32] and 20¬ shipping? =/ [15:32] fire|bird: I'm fine tks :) search in linux questions about "make compatibilitie libs" [15:33] Lord_Khelben: sorry, but I just tried your nick on this nick generator site, and it returend: Merciless Goon [15:33] gar0t0: I have a few scripts that generate all the compatibility libs, but it will be released after Slackware 13.0 is in stores [15:33] In the meantime you can get compat32 packages from fred emmott's server [15:33] what nick generator site ? i didn't understand [15:34] alienBOB: i didnt see the script message can you telll me again please [15:34] I was running the Linux citrix client on my slackware64 last week [15:34] The fortune is taken from a database - see /etc/profile.d/bsd-games-login-fortune.sh [15:34] Lord_Khelben: go here: http://www.rootcompromise.org/hhg/ and enter your Nick. or anything for that matter. :P [15:34] alienBOB: ok thanks [15:35] alienBOB: hmmm ok!! tks :) [15:35] comrad, give me access to the Kremlin's fedex/ups account [15:36] jeev: Sorry, Access Denied. :) [15:36] gar0t0: when slackware 13.0 is available I will write a Wiki article about how to create 32bit gcc/glibc on Slackware64 as well as all the compat32 packages you need to run and compile 32bit programs (like wine and citrixclient) [15:37] bleh I need to get internet on my laptop already [15:37] gar0t0: are you disturbing alienbob with your citrix problem? -:PPP [15:37] fire|bird: it pops different handles depending on _ or space and capital vs small letters. its a bit lame nick generator :P [15:37] PiterPunk: :( no [15:37] ;D [15:37] Lord_Khelben: yeah, but fun none the less. [15:38] fred cheated by installing slamd64's compiler and glibc on Slackware64 to build 32bit compatibility stuff, but it can be done with just Slackware [15:38] hehe [15:38] Hey PiterPunk [15:39] Can you please check what you wrote right in front of BATCH="no" PiterPunk? [15:39] what unknows softwares have problems with 64bits ? [15:40] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.48.135) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:40] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [15:40] alienBOB: meh, the compilers that compildde the compilers that .... were cbuilt from source on slackware 10.2 :p [15:40] PiterPunk: I meant "BATCH=off" [15:40] -typos [15:40] fred hi! Missed you [15:40] not cheated, just a more long-lived toolchain :p [15:41] fred - indeed you have to start porting somewhere :-) You were the first [15:41] my too alienBOB lol [15:41] me too :p [15:41] alienBOB: hmmm what i did wrong? [15:41] You explained it exactly opposite of what it does [15:42] really? hahah [15:42] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [15:42] tipical [15:42] ops [15:43] alienBOB: Funny. The first phrase tell the correct thing. The next one explain things wrong (haha) [15:43] Dominian (i=dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: "leaving" [15:43] I can say it´ s a typo or copy´n´paste problem [15:43] PiterPunk: stop drink beer [15:44] Can anyone tell me if there is a linux book on pdf etc that tells you what all the things like profile.d etc are or do?? [15:44] Action: fred stops, and drinks beer [15:44] in otherwords how it works [15:45] alienBOB: You have good eyes [15:45] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:46] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:49] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [15:49] epaphus (n=unix3@190.10.68.228) left irc: "Leaving" [15:50] C00re (i=hard@unaffiliated/c00re) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:51] C00re_ (i=hard@unaffiliated/c00re) joined ##slackware. [15:53] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [15:53] shamus (n=shamus@user-5440cf16.wfd78a.dsl.pol.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:56] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:56] Slackware 13.0 DVD is dual side x86_64 (64-bit), and i686 (32-bit, i486 compatible). [15:56] i686? [15:56] dual side? [15:57] http://store.slackware.com/cgi-bin/store/slackdvd13.0?id=fiyqLqam:mv_pc=90 [15:57] :o [15:59] slack 13 is out ? [15:59] no [15:59] pre-order? [16:00] yep [16:00] PiterPunk: in the next weekend I give to you on cd Slackware 2.0 :) [16:00] i expect that it' will be out with kde 4.3 :p [16:00] at the end of the month [16:01] :} [16:01] hrm [16:01] how do I go about using this SlackBuild script for kernel ? [16:01] SlackBuild script for kernel modules [16:01] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:02] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] i don't know work with slackbuils :( [16:02] builds [16:02] i prefer txz lol [16:02] or tgz :p [16:02] there is some slackbuild scripts for my laptop [16:02] I wish to try them out [16:03] having some major issues with it [16:03] hoping they would help [16:03] =/ [16:03] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "init[3]" [16:03] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.181) joined ##slackware. [16:03] dhw, why don't you install the last iso ? [16:03] it's recent [16:03] I did [16:03] slackware 12.2 dvd install [16:04] Action: SlackLnx hi \0 [16:04] dhw, take a current iso :) [16:04] SlackLnx: hello [16:04] what do you mean? [16:04] dhw, the curent iso is very recent ;) [16:04] ohh okay I got you [16:04] from the dir [16:04] every week [16:04] good thinking [16:05] dhw, do you want a link ? [16:05] SPNG (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) left ##slackware ("RAWRRRR !!!!"). [16:06] yeah [16:06] I am trying to find one, but no luck yet [16:06] dhw, http://www.slackware.no/ [16:06] ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/ISO-images/slackware/Current-ISO-build/ [16:06] thanks [16:07] perfect [16:07] so much newer [16:07] dhw, with unetbootin no needs graveur of cd [16:07] =) [16:07] maybe this will fix the acpi issues too [16:07] it works with a usb key :} [16:07] be carefeul [16:07] careful [16:08] install hugesmp' kernel [16:08] no the huge [16:08] =) [16:08] yeah [16:08] that's what I did with my current setup [16:08] but I had to do hugesmp.s acpi=off [16:08] or it would lock up on ACPI: core reveason [16:08] and just sit there [16:08] was odd [16:08] ^^ [16:09] hi have apache+ssl ,and i force apache redirect to https://mail.mydomain.com/ even i type http://mail.mydomain.com/ , now i want http://mydomain.com/ and if i type https://mydomain.com/ apache force to http://mydomain.com/ someone can help me ?? [16:09] now I just wish it was done downloading [16:09] dhw, you are running 12.2 ? [16:10] yeah [16:10] well, installing [16:10] I just got around to putting it on my laptop [16:10] tooly (n=tooly@e178165228.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [16:10] and right away started to run into issues [16:10] I normally just use gentoo, but wanted to try slackware [16:11] gentoo is to long for installation [16:11] bouuuh [16:11] too [16:11] you install a slack in 5 min :p [16:11] slava_dp (n=family@nas-pra-03.fregat.net) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Dominian (i=dominian@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [16:12] and the slackware 64 [16:12] is a dream lool [16:12] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:12] is the install process with the current-iso the same? [16:13] dhw, yes exactly the same [16:13] except [16:13] giuppy (n=giuppy@host154-161-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:13] ext4 :p [16:13] oh neat [16:13] have not tried that out yet [16:14] it work's fine [16:14] i have never lost data lol [16:14] nice [16:14] maybe this will also fix my dhcp time out issue [16:14] lilo or grub supports ext4 ? [16:14] could not seem to get e1000e module working [16:15] gabriel__, lilo nice ... grub i don't know [16:15] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [16:16] for e1000e module, i don't know [16:16] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) left irc: "Going!" [16:17] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:18] I used grub with gentoo [16:18] I liked it [16:18] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:18] I had not used lilo since redhat v5 or something [16:18] grub is existing for slackware [16:18] in extra [16:18] i think [16:18] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:18] lilo supports pretty much everything [16:18] because it doesn't work like grub [16:18] lilo works, that's all I cared about [16:18] DeeeeP (n=ngomes@bl4-165-182.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [16:19] there are some patches for grub and ext4 that other distros use [16:19] DeeeeP (n=ngomes@bl4-165-182.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:19] but i don't know how good they are [16:19] http://en.wikipedia/org/wiki/Ext4#Caveats [16:19] god damn stupid friggin powercuts I HATE YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!! [16:20] |skepsi| (n=kvirc@gprs10.vodafone.cz) joined ##slackware. [16:20] RipVanWinkle: all fs with delayed allocation have this issue [16:20] damn! [16:20] slackuser123 (n=slackuse@d199-74-231-70.col.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [16:20] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4#Caveats [16:21] slackuser123 (n=slackuse@d199-74-231-70.col.wideopenwest.com) left irc: Client Quit [16:21] |skepsi| (n=kvirc@gprs10.vodafone.cz) left irc: Client Quit [16:23] |skepsi| (n=kvirc@gprs10.vodafone.cz) joined ##slackware. [16:23] is there any way to convert a mpeg to an ogg file using the stuff we have installed? [16:23] Action: Kaapa has 0 video knowledge [16:24] user05439 (n=dsgjkls@ppp-69-223-58-244.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:24] |skepsi| (n=kvirc@gprs10.vodafone.cz) left irc: Client Quit [16:24] hmm [16:24] I know you from some where I think [16:24] you could look at vorbis tools to see what it offers, i have not used it so i can not say what all it does [16:24] Kaapa, perhaps with mencoder ? [16:24] but most likely not [16:25] mencoder is a possability [16:25] |skepsi| (n=skepsi@gprs10.vodafone.cz) joined ##slackware. [16:25] mencoder can encode to theora video / vorbis audio [16:25] but i don't know how you can mux it to ogg container [16:26] after reading wikipedia's entry for ext3 i think ext4 is the way to go too, i am a luddite though so i dont upgrade to new version on a whim, i gotta see the benefits and disadvantages [16:26] thrice` (i=thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) joined ##slackware. [16:26] xvidcap asks for a file format and vid coded, I admit that I don't know which is which [16:26] www.vcdhelp.com could help you out [16:27] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-3cc88cdd7989f32e) left irc: [16:27] they go over every detail of things like this [16:27] I belive they have a linux section [16:27] if you want to do some building check sbo for avidemux, it is an awesome video tool [16:27] VLC 1 works fine on slack :p [16:28] giuppy (n=giuppy@host154-161-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:28] my last problem [16:28] is how to convert a dll in a .so [16:28] .... [16:29] Enhancer [16:29] o.0 [16:29] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:29] |skepsi| (n=skepsi@gprs10.vodafone.cz) left irc: Client Quit [16:29] i'm gonna start anti-java campaign.. [16:29] really [16:29] |skepsi| (n=skepsi@gprs10.vodafone.cz) joined ##slackware. [16:29] i search the equivalent of Enhancer [16:29] whole that crap gets on my nerves :/ [16:29] (winamp) [16:29] under Linux [16:29] =) [16:30] fredoslack: dll as the windows libraries ? [16:30] |skepsi| (n=skepsi@gprs10.vodafone.cz) left irc: Client Quit [16:30] fredoslack: you can't convert a .dll into a .so! :o [16:30] Lord_Khelben, yes i'm in dual boot [16:30] i don't think you can convert them to .so anymore than convert a .exe to ELF [16:30] thats the whole deal behind wine [16:31] :( [16:31] but i haven't dealt with it so i may be wrong [16:31] it's enhancer for winamp [16:31] :p [16:32] err [16:32] you wanted to convert a dll to a so? [16:32] yes :) [16:33] else i use wine [16:33] hmm, are you sure it can be done? [16:33] :( [16:33] I don't think you need to - doesn't winamp have a facility to use codecs contained in a dll ? I think you just use the dll as-is for that [16:33] because dll is a win32 pe format [16:33] as far as I know you can not do that [16:33] now if you had the code, you could compile it for linux [16:33] that would work [16:33] IIRC, its similar to how ndiswrapper uses the DLL's for proprietary NIC drivers on linux [16:34] dhw, i could ask to the developer lol [16:34] but i'me not sure lol [16:34] and hope they don't use win32 api [16:34] i'me not sure [16:35] :( [16:35] tomorrow i will install slack 32 :( [16:35] |skepsi| (n=skepsi@gprs10.vodafone.cz) joined ##slackware. [16:35] too much problems with 64 bits [16:35] too many * [16:35] sniiif [16:35] |skepsi| (n=skepsi@gprs10.vodafone.cz) left irc: Client Quit [16:36] I have never tried any 64bit os [16:36] did not want to deal with any issues [16:36] like what ? i have slack64 for some time now and besides that i can't use wine i don't have any issues [16:36] okay is there something obvious im missing with cupsd... the daemon is started, i can see it in ps aux, and its not blocked by iptables or no script [16:36] dhw, yes i have got problems with Adobe and else [16:37] but i cant hit 127.0.0.1 or loclahost [16:37] yeah, I am just talking about windows os tho I should say [16:37] I am sure there would be no problems running linux [16:37] my next slack current will be a 32 bits lol [16:37] VampirePenguin: port 631 ? [16:37] VampirePenguin: ... i.e. "localhost:631" [16:37] ya netstat show 631 with udp but its not listening on tcp [16:37] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.201.151) joined ##slackware. [16:38] Dominian (i=dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: "grsecurity reboot" [16:38] VampirePenguin: I was asking if you hit port 631 with your browser ... [16:38] ive always used the broser to configure with cups [16:38] ya [16:38] ok :) [16:38] sweet [16:38] 97% [16:39] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:39] VampirePenguin: have you checked the cups logs ? [16:39] netsta shows the syn is sent on 631 tcp [16:39] i didnt even think of the logs [16:39] ive never had to use them [16:39] one sec [16:39] are worms/malware becomming more common on linux? [16:39] VampirePenguin: if cups had a problem binding to port 631, hopefully it would show in the logs [16:39] I have seen a few that work on both windows/linux [16:40] that are ment for botnets [16:40] skepsi (n=kvirc@gprs10.vodafone.cz) joined ##slackware. [16:41] burning dvd :D [16:41] Dominian (i=dominian@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. 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I can only fine a 64b exec [16:44] Kaapa: yes I have a handbrake package [16:45] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@85.139.11.181) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:45] But for slackware64-current only [16:45] Easy enough to compile for 32bit -current though [16:45] http://lwn.net/Articles/172778/ [16:45] there is one [16:45] alienBOB: surely it's as easy as mirror http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/handbrake/build/ and build, no? [16:45] but not the one I was talking about [16:45] it can bind to socket 1::631 IPV6 and on 127.0.0.1 ipv4... i blacklisted ipv6 so there is nothing loacding for it [16:45] Kaapa: indeed, but check the dependencies first! [16:45] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:45] it's nothing like what they do on windows, they just run...I don't think any use rootkits at this time [16:46] ty [16:46] VampirePenguin: if you put http://127.0.0.1:631 in firefox it doesn't connect ? [16:46] nope [16:46] the error log says it cant bind on ipv6 or 4 [16:47] VampirePenguin: you may have to blacklist the ipv6 module to get around that [16:47] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-178-224.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:47] i did already [16:47] there is no ipv6 module loaded [16:47] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) joined ##slackware. [16:47] did you try restarting the cups daemon after the removal of ipv6 ? [16:47] cups is still trying to use it [16:48] Necrogami (n=Necrogam@unaffiliated/necrogami) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:48] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-178-224.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:48] oh this was when i was setting up the box on the blacklist... so many boots ago [16:48] skepsi (n=kvirc@gprs10.vodafone.cz) left irc: Client Quit [16:49] so, a user would have to have apache/httpd and php for that to work, none of that here [16:49] I belive it's called AgoBot [16:49] htop shows cupsd is running as a process [16:49] or um [16:49] Phatbot [16:49] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:49] that is in GPL and can run on linux machines [16:50] it's nothing great really [16:50] like I said, all it does is runs and connects to a C&C server [16:50] and allows for ddos attacks [16:51] dhw, in other words there are no current 'malware' on Linux ... [16:51] thrice`_ (i=thrice@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [16:51] one thing i dont want is for my PCs to be a tool for someone else's evil deeds [16:51] byyye the room :) [16:51] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-64-47.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware ("Quitte"). [16:52] thrice` (i=thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:52] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [16:52] Nick change: thrice`_ -> thrice` [16:52] imo, software that runs that allows control over my computer is malware [16:52] InspectorCluseau: i think there is a recent problem with ssh but thats another matter [16:52] thrice` (i=thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) left irc: Client Quit [16:53] like I said - any 'malware' on Linux would be top news everywhere ... [16:54] there are rootkits for linux, all it will take is for these people to become a bit more advanced with linux and there will be strong versions of malware, that will then turn linux machines mostly servers into hubs for control and command servers [16:54] Linux is not a big target, mostly because there are too many different versions and different distros so it is hard to get one malware package to work on all, plus Linux is not running in admin/root mode 24/7/365 requiring a password to make systemwide changes [16:55] aye [16:56] paissad_ (n=paissad@53.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:56] if I remember right it targeted centOS [16:57] which is become popular for shared hosting boxes [16:57] centOS isn't Linux ? [16:58] http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3601946 [16:58] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl10-185.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [16:59] it's not a linux distro? [17:00] I remember reading the source of that article 5 years go [17:00] or 4 [17:00] nothing major has happened [17:00] I never said it did [17:02] name__ (n=name@pool-71-127-238-152.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:02] Hey dive, how's it going? [17:02] paissad_ (n=paissad@53.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [17:02] fire|bird, hi going ok thanks, yourself? [17:03] dive: doing excellent, thanks. Any more updates? :P [17:03] nope :P [17:03] damned still having that issue with acpi [17:04] I've been busy stripping out kde but I need to keep hold of Kile and k3b until I've tested Graveman and TexMaker to the full [17:04] so I left in kdebase and kdelibs for now [17:04] Has graveman even had an update recently? [17:05] not sure - I just grabbed the sb [17:05] haven't checked website [17:05] last update was 2006 [17:05] only thing I notice with it that could do with adding is the ability to create bootable disc [17:06] xfburn is nice. [17:06] VanRoy (n=kitsilan@LAubervilliers-151-12-1-154.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving." [17:07] I haven't looked at that for a while - need to have a look [17:07] ick_ (n=peter@basictracks.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:07] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:08] ick_ (n=peter@basictracks.demon.nl) left ##slackware. [17:10] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.61.55) joined ##slackware. [17:10] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-168.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:10] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [17:11] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Success [17:12] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:14] fire|bird, looks good [17:14] will keep that too then [17:15] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:15] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:15] I found a fairly good Tex editor - TexMaker - does almost everything that Kile does except templates [17:15] and it loads in 1/2 the time [17:16] dive: emacs is better :p [17:16] vim! [17:16] and Vi is even better :P [17:16] yay, internet works now [17:16] :D [17:16] ŒÇ¹, ¼¹ÃÎ · Vi À±Á¬ À¿»Í [17:17] questions marks much? [17:17] no I got text - looks like russian [17:17] wtf lol [17:18] character encoding [17:18] yep [17:18] x_, english? [17:18] cyrillic i guess [17:18] Nope [17:18] pico [17:18] Look at the shapes [17:19] Cyrillic has a very square-ish alphabet [17:19] damn people and their non-latin characters [17:19] greek [17:19] all i see are ???, ???? ? Vi ???? ???? [17:19] dive, correct [17:19] :D [17:19] I see russian [17:19] that's greek [17:19] i see a mu, pi, alphas [17:19] dive: there is something like Scientific Workplace on Linux? [17:19] oh really [17:20] yep [17:20] neat [17:20] Vi really stands out tho [17:20] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432516.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:20] PiterPunk, I've never heard of that. What is it? [17:20] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [17:20] dive: I usually am happy with LyX->LaTeX export. But it hides all LaTeX tags. [17:21] dive: Scientific Workplace is a Windows program. Is a very good TeX editor [17:21] PiterPunk, ah I used to use LyX but it is frowned upon in #latex [17:21] I edit raw latex :D [17:21] and to be honest found Kile to be much better (although there are some good templates in LyX) [17:22] I guess I'm old fashioned [17:22] aceofspades19, I was wondering about using Vim and setting up functions for tex2pdf, viewpdf etc [17:22] dive: http://www.mackichan.com/ this is scientific workplace [17:23] dive: in emacs, there is auctex which supplies a lot tex related features, but I don't know about vim [17:23] dhw, that's right [17:23] dhw, It meant to say: "I hate Vi" [17:23] PiterPunk, Why hello [17:23] x_: so a fellow emacs user eh? [17:24] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.2.245.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:24] aceofspades19, no [17:24] lol [17:24] I have never used vi/vim/emacs [17:24] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:24] I sentence x_ to a thousand years in editor hell! [17:24] I was planning on giving it a shot here once linux is on my laptop [17:24] what do you people recommend? [17:24] aceofspades19, running classic vi from 1992? [17:24] PiterPunk, I don't know of any Linux s/w that does Scientific Workplace does but probably Kile is the nearest for editing maths latex [17:24] yikes [17:25] dhw, what do u think we would recomend ? [17:25] x_: no, you have to use ed [17:25] noooooo [17:25] well I don't even know what changes they have made from vi to vim [17:25] but I am guessing vim would be better then vi [17:25] yes [17:25] and I know nothing about Emacs [17:25] vim = vi improved [17:25] dhw: vim is very better than plain vi [17:25] vi vim emacs, everything sucks but pico! [17:25] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@nat073.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [17:25] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:25] expect that people fight over vim and emacs [17:26] nano is just what I have always used [17:26] VIM FOREVER [17:26] EMACS SUCKS BALLS [17:26] lol [17:26] editor fight! [17:26] :D evening all [17:26] Hey hiptobecubic^ [17:26] does it take long to get used to vim? [17:26] emacs means remembering a LOT of ctrl- keybinds [17:26] notepad rulez [17:26] roflmao [17:26] dhw, less than emacs [17:27] vim has simple things like :write [17:27] okay [17:27] dhw, more than nano [17:27] dhw: not really, no. imo anyway. [17:27] s/no./not/ [17:27] there was a good website with a cheatsheat for it [17:27] dhw, once you get over the command/insert mode dichotomy it's pretty straight forward [17:27] I hate the command/insert mode thing [17:27] ill just end up learning vim and trying to use it in notepad [17:28] and get all pissed of all the time [17:28] I can see it now [17:28] I did until i was ssh'd into a server and the settings were all wrong and i couldn't use arrows or any special keys [17:28] dhw, gvim [17:28] I hate the ctrl- mode thing ;p [17:28] I think notepad++ might have vim keybinds [17:28] hiptobecubic^: same here, I learned by being forced :) [17:28] vim also has some random ctrl-key commands, but you can live without them if you want to [17:28] now I want to play fps games with hjkl :D [17:28] lol [17:29] haha i'm not that hardcore yet [17:29] Camarade_Tux: get all your issues fixed? :P [17:29] dive: except you can also use M^plain english too [17:29] fire|bird: yeah :) [17:29] I've been using geany lately actually [17:29] it's like using a control in a fps game on a console [17:29] Camarade_Tux: great. :) [17:29] I want my mouse back =( [17:29] forget the mouse [17:29] it's for assholes [17:29] this is why halo sucks [17:29] PiterPunk, have a look at Kile and TexMaker (has a strange install system but I will make a SB one day) [17:29] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:29] no mouse! [17:29] that and the network code [17:29] doom2 keyboard only, fists only, nightmare mode [17:29] go [17:30] allowing people to host servers on cable modems is just a bad idea [17:30] host always wins =( *cries* [17:30] the problem with hjkl in games is if you are a righty and want to use the mouse at the same time, you can't, so you have to use your left hand to press hjkl and that doesn't work well =/ [17:31] Camarade_Tux: thats not that hard [17:31] i would rather just use a game console (sony or nintendo) for games than a PC [17:31] my friend used to use a trackball for fps games [17:31] boo [17:31] never could play on his computer was to hard =( [17:32] aceofspades19: it would take a long time to get used to that (consider how long I've used vim, less, man [yeah, I know, it's less too], ...) [17:32] I need to clean my room badly [17:32] it's a mess [17:32] everywhere [17:32] Camarade_Tux: its because you're WEAK [17:32] papers [17:32] :p [17:32] computer parts [17:32] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [17:32] I have a nice printer [17:32] Camarade_Tux, do you know how to copy to the X clipboard from vim? [17:32] I bought a OKI laser printer [17:32] aceofspades19: hahaha :P [17:33] hiptobecubic^: from vim or gvim? [17:33] vim [17:33] the toner has lasted my 2 and a half years lol [17:33] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-149-185.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [17:33] my/me [17:33] i don't know why anyone would use gvim [17:33] http://vim-latex.sourceforge.net/ [17:33] hiptobecubic^: because "*yy doesn't work in vim? :) [17:33] dhw: then you have to pay several billion dollars to get more toner [17:33] there's one reason ^ [17:33] nah it's only about 150 for all 4 [17:33] the ones I got were only half full too [17:34] and because gvim doesn't use your current term so you can open several files more easily [17:34] last time i tried gvim i noticed the menu would leave artifacts when i selected an item, (looks like the menu did not close) [17:34] this allows me to print out manuals and bind them myself [17:34] it makes reading things easier for me [17:34] I don't like to read long text documents on the computer screen [17:34] dhw: how big of manuals do you print? [17:34] the slackbible? [17:35] or is it slackbook? [17:35] hiptobecubic^: oh, gvim looks exactly like vim here : no title bar (wm setting), no toolbar, no menubar, no scrollbar [17:35] =) [17:35] slackbook ;) [17:35] I have printed up to about 500 pages I think [17:35] and gvim would have an odd bug that would hide text with certain filetypes/syntax html & xml mostly [17:35] slacktora [17:35] maybe more at once that is [17:35] Camarade_Tux: I finally got my rtf parser to work properly [17:36] I was sick of crap inject printers [17:36] aceofspades19: =) [17:36] also wanted a nice network print option [17:36] yeah ... I used to buy a new injet when the carts were empty ... [17:37] my inkjet has been doing pretty good [17:37] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-149-185.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Client Quit [17:37] I've had it for a few years [17:37] I figured with as much printing as I do, it would be about the same in ink prices [17:37] midnight commander's built in editor is fairly decent one i rebuilt it to get rid of that awful blue background [17:37] seeing how long toner will last me [17:37] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [17:37] then I bought a Samsung $70 laser and haven't used up the original toner ... 3 years and counting [17:37] I think I spent 1500 on the printer [17:37] RipVanWinkle: except you have to reach to the f keys to do anything [17:37] 1500? [17:38] yeah [17:38] it's a network laser color printer [17:38] I spend less then that on computers [17:38] the pictures come out really nice [17:38] lol [17:38] F keys are not that far away, besides i have long fingers ;p [17:38] I have a 30" lcd screen for my monitor [17:38] I do a lot of programming and other crap so that comes in very handy [17:39] I would like to get a job reversing worms/malware [17:39] ill need to get a degree first tho =/ [17:39] get a job swinging an 8 pound hammer [17:40] I have been making money cheating in online video games heh [17:40] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:41] dhw: then I should tell you that I work for the FBI and there are black unmarked SUVs pulling up to your house right now [17:41] :p [17:41] lol [17:42] don't forget the FBI chopper circling above. [17:42] the day the FBI cares about cheating in MMO's [17:42] to track him if he runs. [17:42] you have to worry about the game companies [17:42] they have lawyers [17:42] dhw: the Federal Bureau of Invesitgation takes these matters very seriously [17:42] stunix (n=stian@77.16.228.217.tmi.telenormobil.no) left irc: "The system is going down for system halt NOW!" [17:42] which scare me more then the fbi [17:43] at least with the FBI I get jail time [17:43] with lawyers I just get raped [17:43] dhw: well there's a very high chance of that happening in prison too [17:43] :p [17:44] not if I am the one doing the raping! [17:44] err wait [17:44] dhw: don't bend over to get the soap. :) [17:44] that does not sound right [17:44] no, it doesn't. :P [17:44] hehe [17:44] ok now there are no errors in the error log and i have a 631 tcp/udp listen, cupsd is running [17:44] dhw: besides, you don't think the FBI can/will send lawyers after ya? :P [17:45] nah [17:45] they would have already [17:45] I have been doing this for like 8-12years [17:46] the only income I ever made came from it [17:46] dhw: you've never had a real job before? [17:46] dhw: They've probably already got your full name, ssn, address, dimensions of your house, family member names, heck, probably even the name of the gf you don't have yet. They're just waiting for the perfect time to come get ya. :P [17:46] the fbi probably doesnt have his current address, but blockbuster does [17:46] when I was 15 I had a paper route [17:46] then before that I was working at a store for a few years [17:47] but that sucks ass [17:47] lol [17:47] you know how much money virtual items brings in [17:47] Action: fire|bird sends an e-mail to the FBI. :) [17:47] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:47] if anything the goverment thanks tthat market [17:48] along with the taxes they get [17:48] dhw: what do you put on your tax form as your job :p [17:48] depends [17:48] some times selfemployeed [17:48] aceofspades19: a l337 cheating gamer. :P [17:48] but last few years I worked for a company [17:48] flunky [17:48] that payed me to do it [17:49] they owned the rights to all my code and what not [17:49] minion [17:49] They paid me to do it, I swear! [17:49] exactly [17:49] and it's not illegal gosh! [17:49] it's not like I am writing a server emu [17:49] lol [17:49] that's where the FBI will care [17:49] in soviet russia, video game cheats on you! [17:49] lol [17:50] http://xkcd.com/138/ [17:50] perfect [17:50] there is an xkcd comic for every occasion [17:51] seems this way [17:51] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-166-68-63.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:53] bah lenovo wants 45 bucks for a recovery cd [17:53] dhw: spend that money on a slackware CD set [17:53] they think giving you a recovery partition is just as good lol [17:54] I was thinking about preordering 13.0 [17:54] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-134-193.aei.ca) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:54] With some, you can make a recovery cd from the recovery partition. [17:54] not if it is gone :P [17:54] no, then you can't. :P [17:54] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-131-191.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:55] they really need to rethink that [17:55] but then I suppose most people wont even know it's there [17:55] why do you need a recovery partition when you run slack [17:56] I don't [17:56] if I ever want windows back [17:56] I would need it or the cds [17:56] to use my windows key that is [17:56] I would have to find a copy of windows xp pro that they use [17:56] dhw: you could always download the windows iso, its legal if you have a license [17:56] like a corp edition or something [17:57] I should not have to, they should have it on their website [17:57] for people who buy the laptop [17:57] not require you to pay 45 bucks to get your OS back [17:57] dhw: that would make sense! can't have that [17:57] aye [17:57] you should burn the discs before you override your partition [17:58] I did not think I would need them, I have recovery set [17:58] but they are for a different model type [17:58] so they don't work all the way [17:58] they must have a check in the install script [17:58] even if you didn't think you'd need them, it'd still have been a good idea to burn them. :P [17:58] to see what the model is [17:58] well they gave you a free option [17:58] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [17:58] true [17:59] it's not free, I paid for it [17:59] I like owning my OS install cd's [17:59] I can't imagine running anything but slackware on my thinkpad [18:00] Action: InspectorCluseau uses an original XP beta iso ... with SP2 slipstreamed into it [18:00] what model do you have [18:00] t61 here [18:00] t60 [18:00] I had that before [18:00] it broke, so they let me build a new machine [18:01] I just want to stop having to use acpi=off [18:01] to get the kernel to load [18:01] hmm, why is that necessary? [18:01] not sure [18:01] I have looked all over the net [18:02] any kernel or one in particular? [18:02] it locks up on ACPI: Core Revision? [18:02] I have used 12.2 iso and now 12.2 current [18:02] using 2.6.29 [18:02] i have a t61 and the t500 and some other 12.1 inch crap [18:02] and another r61 [18:02] they all blow equally although the first 3 are the fastest processors available on them at the time [18:03] it's better then having an HP/Dell imo [18:03] yea right [18:03] i got a dead HP rght beside me [18:03] dell is the best thing i'v ever used [18:03] EVER. [18:03] I don't like touchpads [18:03] nipples ftw [18:03] dell laptop and desktops are the best consumer class [18:03] even business in my opinion [18:04] I have a dead Nascar laptop [18:04] that I got from a friend [18:04] lol [18:04] heh [18:04] there's a reason why it died [18:04] nascar is stupid [18:04] ;) [18:04] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:05] hooray for redneck stereotypes ;p [18:05] lol [18:05] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432516.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:05] I told him not to buy it [18:05] it was a display model on top of that [18:05] if someone owes you a money (a business) for computer services, they never paid [18:05] should you down their system if you have access to it ? [18:06] never buy display models, all the riffraff drools on it [18:06] they run all day too [18:06] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432516.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:06] killing the system slowly [18:06] and people touch them [18:06] ewwww [18:06] lotec (n=lotec@96.243.165.191) joined ##slackware. [18:07] jeev: are you the one in control of their service, are they buying it from you? [18:07] anyone ever installed unrar on slack? [18:07] lotec: yeah [18:07] is that not a common item to install? [18:07] glen2 (n=glen@78-86-231-25.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:07] I think I use it on ever linux box I have [18:08] compile faster! [18:08] brb [18:10] dhw, no but they know i have logmein on their computer, they authorized me to install it one day [18:10] their invoice has been due for a year now [18:10] lol i powered up an old server, pentium 3 pro 1000B or something, 1000mhz, how funnies [18:11] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-71-236-194-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@20151138048.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:15] well i found the mysterious cups issue [18:16] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [18:16] e01_ (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [18:16] i reinstalled this box but had it fixed on my 12.2 install [18:16] e01_ (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:16] hello [18:16] /sbin/ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 [18:16] can somebody help me [18:16] fuck [18:16] i want to make a patch file [18:16] slava_dp (n=family@nas-pra-03.fregat.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:16] but don`t know how [18:16] e01, 'diff -ur olddir newdir' [18:17] man diff [18:17] or even 'diff -ur oldfile newfile' [18:18] dive, thanks [18:18] and you will need to redirect the output to a file with ' > somefile.diff' at the end of the command [18:19] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [18:19] jeev: I suppose if it's not your computer, it would be a wrong thing to do [18:20] jeev: but them owing you money is also lame, even more so for that long [18:20] two wrongs never make a right tho >_< [18:22] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. [18:23] i know [18:23] i've had a while to think about it [18:23] i duinno [18:23] i'll send another invoice again [18:23] is there a tgz pkg for par2cmdline ? [18:24] Dinde, am.. this make really many lines code [18:25] is there way to generate only added lines? [18:25] Dinde, sorry [18:25] dive, [18:25] :) [18:25] e01, that should only make the needed lines [18:25] what are you making a patch of? [18:25] one program [18:25] is it a single file, or a directory? [18:26] directory [18:26] and only adding a codelines [18:26] make sure you start with a clean directory, do not run and compile commands in it [18:26] s/and/any [18:27] how many lines of code? [18:27] ahm.. [18:27] ~20 [18:27] well your diff should only show those lines + a few others so that the patch command can find the rigt place [18:28] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-134-201.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [18:28] can you put the diff file up on pastebin.ca or somewhere we can see what is happening? [18:29] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.2.245.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:29] how many lines in the diff output? [18:30] am... [18:30] 837 [18:30] :) [18:31] did you run ./configure and make in there by any chance? [18:31] only gmake :) [18:31] but it is enough to blabla the code [18:32] that's why then [18:32] Agiofws_ (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422721.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:32] start again with _clean_ directories [18:32] znuzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:32] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:32] oh.. [18:33] so tar xf the source, rename it to old, untar source again, edit the code in the new dir [18:33] however, it will be more quickly just to writedown what i am doing :) [18:33] then run your diff [18:34] well if writing it down is easier and faster then you can do that of course [18:35] :) [18:35] thanks althou [18:35] now i know how to make diff files :) [18:35] yep, all the more knowledge [18:37] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.201.151) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:40] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.227) left irc: [18:40] brklynRednek (n=yosi@72.44.171.82) joined ##slackware. [18:40] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:41] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:41] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432516.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:41] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [18:41] Nick change: powtrix__ -> powtrix [18:41] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@72.44.171.82) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:43] allend (n=allend@121.214.170.209) joined ##slackware. [18:43] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:45] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [18:46] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:46] how do i filter what programs are eating more ram? [18:47] powtrix: top (htop much better) [18:47] Agiofws_ (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422721.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:48] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422721.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:48] in top any specify command? [18:48] try 'M' [18:48] key [18:49] ahh amarok [18:49] having a problem when running make on par2cmdline [18:49] http://pastebin.com/m51237c75 [18:49] damn amarok eat 7gb of ram [18:49] shit of code [18:49] it's been so long i've had sex i've resorted to holding my pee so it could feel good [18:50] jeev you sick freak! ;p [18:50] if you hit your head repeatedly with a brick, it feels really good when you stop [18:50] lotec, did you try par2cmdline_tbb ? [18:50] jeev just go pee, it is unhealthy to hold it in [18:51] lotec, http://www.chuchusoft.com/par2_tbb/download.html [18:52] powtrix. i will thanks [18:52] multithread way [18:52] dive thanks for M [18:53] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleep" [18:53] yw [18:53] 'P' switches back to cpu [18:54] and yes amarok is a bugger for resources (that's one reason I stopped using it) [18:54] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [18:55] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-29-188.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:55] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-31-111.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:57] powtrix. that errored out also [18:57] are u using 64-bits ? [18:57] nope [18:57] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [18:58] you can get the bin [18:58] COPYING libtbb.so libtbb.so.2 par2* README_FIRST.txt [18:58] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:58] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [18:58] dive, [18:59] yo [18:59] how can apply the diff file to directory [18:59] if i created with [18:59] the -p setting of patch [18:59] diff -u dir/subdir ddir/dsubdir [18:59] so patch -p0 file.diff [18:59] or perhaps -p1 [19:00] you may need to experiment there a bit [19:00] man patch will help [19:00] my favorite patch method is what pat uses, those gzipped patches you can use with zcat [19:00] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:01] it freezy [19:01] e01, the -p flag is wrong [19:02] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-178-224.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:03] hm.. i think that all my patch is wrong [19:03] when i looked in it, i see the directories that must not existing [19:03] marsvolta (n=lam3r@201.141.5.51) joined ##slackware. [19:04] marsvolta (n=lam3r@201.141.5.51) left ##slackware. [19:04] marsvolta (n=lam3r@201.141.5.51) joined ##slackware. [19:05] e01, it should only show the file(s) that you've changed [19:06] and perhaps the subdir they are in [19:07] Dominian (i=dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:07] Dominian (i=dominian@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [19:07] e01, don't forget that you need to do a fresh tar xf of the source to apply the patch to [19:07] or it will think that you want to undo it [19:07] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:09] cadmium (n=mike@58.65.159.166) joined ##slackware. [19:09] does anyone where to get a tcp proxy ? [19:10] know* [19:12] cadmium, have you looked at tor + privoxy? [19:14] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:16] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:17] i just see the tor service.. like it hides your id [19:18] tor is cool tech, it was originally developed by the USN for secure communications [19:19] cadmium, there are slackbuilds for tor and privoxy at slackbuilds.org [19:20] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422721.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:21] ok well that looks like something for obscuring your location on the internet... i'm looking for to build a router which can also act as a tcp proxy [19:22] allend (n=allend@121.214.170.209) left irc: "Leaving" [19:22] marsvolta (n=lam3r@201.141.5.51) left irc: [19:24] whats name of pdf reader from Kde? [19:24] kpdf [19:24] hm other, oracle or something [19:25] it is in the Graphics section of kde's menu [19:25] okular ;) [19:25] i think kpdf should have been catagorized to the Office part of the menu [19:25] kde4? [19:25] yes [19:27] powtrix got it to install with slackpkg [19:27] good [19:28] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.74.164) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [19:28] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [19:29] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:33] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:34] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: No route to host [19:34] gdub (n=gdub@99.199.136.160) left irc: " bye" [19:38] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:39] sh0ne (n=unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [19:40] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere." 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[19:54] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.7.236) joined ##slackware. [19:55] echo ${VERSION/\.[0-9]} [19:56] higuita, actually, it's into a SlackBuild, i don't think echo gonna [19:56] sorry, i did not explain correctly [19:56] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [19:56] ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/GConf/2.7/***** for example [19:57] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:57] into 2.7/directory, there are a lot of versions of GConf [19:57] 2.7.** [19:59] paznak (n=paznak@dna252-169.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [20:00] paissad $(echo $VERSION | cut -d. -f1-2) [20:00] sh0ne (n=unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: "Leaving" [20:00] alienBOB, ok thanks [20:01] higuita, thanks [20:01] :) [20:01] lordsimian (n=lordsimi@144.38.70.37) left irc: "leaving" [20:02] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@nat073.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:10] scubacuda__ (n=rog@netblock-68-183-173-103.dslextreme.com) left irc: Connection timed out [20:10] KidpunkX (n=kidpunkx@adsl-235-224-99.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:12] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:13] Nick change: AlexElliott__ -> AlexElliott [20:16] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [20:16] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [20:19] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. 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[21:00] i got bootsplash, i got compiz, i got themes [21:00] have black lettering on a black background with black icons in black [21:01] you can call the theme megadeath [21:01] lol [21:01] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [21:03] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:03] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] lol.. this is for all the female slackers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-m6JDYRFvk&feature=popular nix_chix0r [21:04] lol [21:06] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [21:08] anyone ever dealt with Vista in a dual boot situation? I resized Amanda's largest hard drive partition to add a partition or two for Linux, slackware install went properly, but now it won't boot Vista because it complains of missing some boot file [21:08] never had windows do that to me before [21:10] hmmmm [21:11] the bootloader is different in vista... have you looked at bootpart? [21:12] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [21:13] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:14] x_ (i=1000@201.78.143.149) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:22] Necos, is there a boot partition separate from the normal partition? [21:25] rudi_ (n=quassel@c-98-229-33-41.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:26] nheco (n=nheco_nh@200-102-93-230.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:26] SpyKee (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [21:27] stybla_ (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [21:27] jdfhs (n=10280355@122-124-135-94.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [21:27] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:28] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:30] Mbps is a bandwidth measurement, but what download speeds can one expect on a 15 Mbps connection? [21:31] does that question even make sense? :P [21:31] antler: no, it doesn't, please rephrase. :P [21:31] j/k [21:32] Action: antler uses edman007's foot to kick fire|bird in the shins [21:32] :D [21:32] Action: fire|bird uses antler's arm to hit antler in the head. [21:33] o\ [21:33] but antler has no arms [21:33] bob [21:33] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:33] \_\o/_/ <----cheerleader doin the splits. :) [21:33] chopp: Hmm, good point. [21:34] Action: fire|bird uses antler's hooves to kick him in the head. [21:34] chopp: better? [21:34] c'mon, chopp, entertain this old fool's question. :P [21:35] that'll work...sure [21:35] antler: I have an 8MB connection and usually get 7.x down, based on various online speed tests. [21:36] s/fool's/crazy fool's/ [21:36] hahah [21:36] fire|bird: an 8megabyte connection? what is that? [21:36] antler: my Cable Internet connection. [21:37] fire|bird: so you get a 7MB download speed? [21:37] bah, I mean Mbps. [21:37] :P [21:37] antler: yeah, 7 Mbps usualy. [21:37] usally. [21:38] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:39] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [21:41] fire|bird: so that means you're getting close to 1MB downloads? [21:41] so, generally around 900-1000 kBps download? [21:41] all is fake!!!!!! [21:41] antler: yeah, somewhere around there. [21:42] Alan_Hicks: ping [21:42] i think my provider throttles _up_ kernel.org - i get crazy speeds from there. [21:42] fire|bird: i currently have a 16Mbps, but never, ever see 2MB downloads [21:43] antler: you would with torrents, I bet. [21:43] paznak (n=paznak@dna252-169.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi) left irc: "leaving" [21:43] not even kernel.org? i see 2300+ sustained from there. [21:43] you can get 2MB download only in the country, maybe [21:43] outside the country, 2Kbps [21:43] thumbs: i never really use torrents, but i sometimes get crazy ass speeds from microsoft. [21:44] :x [21:45] m$ rules, take a look at bing.com [21:45] telus is going around offering the peeps a 1 - 6 Mbps connection, 73 channels of cable (yeah, mostly useless channels probably), and a basic phone line for 42 bucks [21:45] no evil scripts, and it's very fast [21:45] free pvr and digital box rental [21:45] antler: not a bad deal. [21:46] but I hate telus with a passion rivalled by the fire of a thousand suns. [21:46] bin.com > yahoo.com > google.com [21:46] bing.com, sorry [21:46] jdfhs: you must be on crack. [21:46] eviljames: it does seem tempting. right now, shaw has me right where they want me-- in front with my pants to my ankles [21:46] to see is to believe [21:47] you are just jealous, hahahaha [21:48] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.67.221) joined ##slackware. [21:48] no, I tried bing. It didn't work out for me. [21:48] antler: I find shaw is great, if somewhat expensive. [21:48] antler: their xTreme package (~25mb iirc) has been quite reliable. [21:49] nheco (n=nheco_nh@201-66-176-154.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:50] eviljames: that's their Warp, the Xtreme-1 is "up to 15 Mbps" [21:50] is the 0 in the range? [21:50] 0Mbps [21:51] in Vancouver it's 25, I think.. maybe it's Nitro that I'm using.. [21:51] eviljames: i'm on the Xtreme right now. i don't know how i would feel going from 15 (thought it was 16 earlier) to 6... [21:52] depending on latencies, maybe you'd be ok. [21:54] rudi_ (n=quassel@c-98-229-33-41.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:55] yeah, i had their high-speed @ 7.5 Mbps and it was ok, i guess [21:56] eviljames: their tv packages are uberexpensive [21:57] why can't these things be free? :P [21:57] antler: ++ [21:57] antler: http://www.speedtest.net/result/518338754.png [21:58] agentc0re: nice, that your connection? [21:58] it's stupid to watch tv through the internet [21:58] http://www.puresimplicity.net/~twinreverb/linux/flashplayer.html [21:58] it's like visa cards [21:58] fire|bird: yup, got it yesterday. Qwests new fiber. supposed to be 20/5 but i'll settle for 18/4 [21:59] agentc0re: Ah, so the guy finally come? [21:59] you have no privacy [21:59] fire|bird: Ya, finally. [21:59] Action: TwinReverb had to write a "how to do it" page for adobe flash player [21:59] agentc0re: well, at least they come the day they said they would. [21:59] fire|bird: Found out that it's all fiber up to the CO an then copper out to the junction boxes and copper to your house. [21:59] fire|bird: true. [22:00] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Connection timed out [22:00] lotec (n=lotec@96.243.165.191) left irc: "Leaving" [22:00] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:00] however, this modem gets hot as hell. I'd dropped connection quite a few times today from what i can tell in irc logs. [22:00] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.11) joined ##slackware. [22:00] agentc0re, install a fan on it [22:00] TwinReverb: I have been thinking about it. [22:01] agentc0re: jesus how long does it take for the test to complete?? [22:01] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [22:01] agentc0re: oh, nm. i didn't start the test yet. hahaha [22:02] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:03] antler: LOL [22:03] antler: speedtest /fail [22:03] agentc0re: wow, my isp wasn't lying when the said "up to 15 Mbps". 6.5 is certainly up to 15. [22:03] *they [22:03] hm, shaw gives me an interesting result.. now I'm really wondering if they aren't shaping bandwidth. [22:04] oh terrific. now i'm seeing 7.73. [22:04] fuck it. i'm going with telus. [22:04] http://www.speedtest.net/result/518341193.png [22:04] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [22:05] eviljames: they're robbing you blind as well :P [22:05] totally! [22:05] hahaha upload of .45 [22:05] mine was .92 or something [22:05] rudi_ (n=quassel@c-98-229-33-41.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:06] I saw .97 earlier today, but still.. wtf [22:06] ack on the up... thats what i was getting with comcrap though. [22:07] http://speedtest.shaw.ca/speedtest/runtest/ gives me 14.9 download. no surprise there. [22:07] eviljames: mind doing the shaw test and giving me your numbers? [22:08] I was already starting :P [22:08] WTF 8? [22:09] paul424 (n=chatzill@91.207.68.2) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060215]" [22:09] ack... I'm going to call telus. [22:09] wtf ------------> http://pastebin.ca/1496520 [22:09] eviljames: lol for real? [22:09] no matter how much I hate 'em, I'm paying too much and getting too little. [22:10] rudi_ (n=quassel@c-98-229-33-41.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:10] rudi_ (n=quassel@c-98-229-33-41.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:10] eviljames: yeah, call. the bundle promo might not be available in your area. [22:11] jdfhs (n=10280355@122-124-135-94.dynamic.hinet.net) left ##slackware. [22:11] rudi_ (n=quassel@c-98-229-33-41.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:12] bloody hell, telus tv is not available with high speed turbo [22:12] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:12] i guess I just have to wait for docsis 3.0.. [22:13] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:14] eviljames: that was my first question after they explained the package. [22:14] you only get that 1 - 6 mbps connection [22:14] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:16] i don't care, i'm going with them. 42 bucks as opposed to 120 bucks with shaw. [22:17] wow, $120 dollars?! [22:17] ftw [22:17] that's how much the 40/5 package with qwest was. [22:17] agentc0re: 120 bucks for basic cable, basic telephone line, and a 15 mbps connection (100 gig cap/month) [22:17] plus CAP? [22:18] Action: agentc0re kicks antler in the nuts! [22:18] agentc0re: yeah, that's the bonus they threw in there for me [22:18] just in case they haven't already. [22:18] yeah, with steel-toed boots [22:18] ever come close to the cap? [22:18] never, i don't download that much [22:19] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.11) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:19] what do they charge if you go over, do you know? [22:19] agentc0re: browsing, email, the odd distro here and there [22:19] antler: no torrent's? [22:19] agentc0re: telus writes, "we charge 2 bucks / gig over the cap" but i'm not sure what shaw does [22:20] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:20] agentc0re: rarely, only if a particular server is slow [22:21] hopefully they might pull a stupid like verzion... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCJ3Oz5JVKs http://verizonmath.blogspot.com/2007/08/original-recording-of-verizon-customer.html [22:22] supergear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) joined ##slackware. [22:22] hahah .002 dollars [22:23] LOL [22:23] NO .002 cents! [22:23] "I dunno, i'm not a mathematician." [22:23] lol [22:24] You should listen to the full recording. it's on the second link. [22:24] "it's a difference of opinion" [22:25] . [22:25] heh [22:26] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-182-140.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:26] http://www.yopress.com/images/posts/verizon.jpg [22:26] lol [22:27] It's 0.002 cents.... No, no no.. it's .002 cents. LMAO!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6ccIiZp1Y&feature=related [22:27] woo i finally made the jump from 12.0 to 12.2 [22:27] supergear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:27] __raFaeL__ (n=rafaelk@189.81.11.210) joined ##slackware. [22:28] usually when i do that, the next version comes out shortly [22:28] agentc0re: wow. just wow @ verizon [22:28] so you are welcome [22:29] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [22:29] haha [22:29] supergear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) joined ##slackware. [22:29] antler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5z4Vs26-TI&feature=related hahahahah [22:29] i love this call. [22:30] agentc0re: still listening to einstein explain verizon's rates. [22:30] antler: HAHAHA [22:32] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [22:34] supergear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:35] <__raFaeL__> Somebody had problems with snd-hda-intel? [22:35] what's your problem? [22:35] __raFaeL__: I dunno, did they? [22:35] <__raFaeL__> there's no sound [22:36] is this a new install? [22:36] <__raFaeL__> I tried alsaconf, mas didnt work [22:36] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-122-33-245.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [22:36] alsamixer, and unmute things [22:37] __raFaeL__: is this a new install? [22:37] <__raFaeL__> yes [22:37] how new is the hardware? [22:37] agentc0re: man, the caller is admirably patient. :D [22:37] supergear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) joined ##slackware. [22:37] supergear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) left irc: Client Quit [22:38] supergear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) joined ##slackware. [22:38] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:38] antler: Hehe, you can google this math too. .002 dollars to cents or .002 dollars * $MINUTES and .002 cents * $MINUTES [22:39] <__raFaeL__> my notebook is a hp tx2500 [22:39] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:39] __raFaeL__: are those models fairly recent? If so, you will probably want to try a newer kernel. [22:40] I had to with my Acer Aspire One 10.1" netbook. [22:40] <__raFaeL__> I guess it is recent....but I'm using slackware 12.2 [22:41] agentc0re: omg... his sighs are hilarious [22:41] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [22:42] __raFaeL__: Thats fine... upgrade to a newer kernel. It's easy. [22:42] __raFaeL__: have you checked alsamixer to make sure it is not muted, highlight master and press the m key to toggle mute, MM = mute, OO = unmuted [22:43] pcm also [22:43] that sound module should work [22:43] Oh ya, that's another thing. I've noticed that sometimes your actual device will be named weird. Mine, for some reason, is the AUX device. /shrug [22:43] In alsamixer that is. [22:44] <__raFaeL__> theres no things on mute, but theres some I cant turn [22:44] <__raFaeL__> like iec958, iec958 d, caller i and off-hook [22:45] yeah, i have that sound board imbedded on the motherboard on one PC i have, it works but it is weird so i put an old creative labs sound card with the big 1371 chip on it [22:45] thats fine, turn everything up, one at a time to see if your sound comes on. [22:45] If it doesn't, upgrade your kernel. [22:45] <__raFaeL__> the things that I write, I cant turn them, they just stay on 00 [22:46] <__raFaeL__> iec958, iec958 d, caller i and off-hook [22:46] use the arrow up key to turn the volumes up? [22:46] <__raFaeL__> yes [22:46] <__raFaeL__> I can turn all the others things [22:47] <__raFaeL__> btw, my kernel is 2.6.27.7 [22:47] try it as root, make sure it is not a persmissions thing [22:47] that is a fairly recent kernel, it should run that sound chip [22:47] <__raFaeL__> I tried it, but didn work too [22:48] Melsxyz (n=Melsxyz@61.1.74.89) joined ##slackware. [22:48] upgrade the kernel... [22:48] <__raFaeL__> I read something about blacklist, do you know something about it? [22:48] what audio/video app are you using? you might want to check the prefrences [22:49] <__raFaeL__> I guess the preferences are right, cuz I tried listen music on diferent players [22:49] if you are good at building your own kernel then go for it, but not everyone is comfortable doing that [22:50] Hi! [22:50] <__raFaeL__> I can ask help for some friends, I am new user, but they are old users... [22:50] <__raFaeL__> btw, sorry for my terrible english [22:50] <__raFaeL__> :D [22:51] Hi! [22:51] you spoke good english [22:51] __raFaeL__: Upgrading the kernel is as easy as downloading it, unpacking the src in /usr/src/ and then coping your .config to the new one, remaking the symlink of /usr/src/linux and make && make modules_install && make install [22:52] Hi! [22:53] <__raFaeL__> ok, I'll try it, after I can back here to told you the results [22:54] <__raFaeL__> thanks a lot [22:54] __raFaeL__: http://www.slackbook.org/html/system-configuration-kernel.html [22:55] <__raFaeL__> blz [22:55] __raFaeL__: i missed a step. you'll want to do a make menuconfig before make && make modules_install && make install [22:55] <__raFaeL__> mmm [22:56] __raFaeL__: when you do a make menuconfig you don't need to change anything. just exit afterwards. [22:56] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:56] <__raFaeL__> ok [22:57] __raFaeL__: you wont screw anything up doing this. However you will need to modify your lilo.conf before you reboot in case something did go wrong. [22:58] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [22:58] <__raFaeL__> I see... [23:00] pattwo (n=sysadmin@d206-75-63-100.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] __raFaeL__: http://linuxliteracy.blogspot.com/2009/03/compiling-your-own-kernel.html there is a good, well written how to as well. [23:01] Melsxyz (n=Melsxyz@61.1.74.89) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:01] <__raFaeL__> ok..I got some ebooks here too [23:01] <__raFaeL__> ... [23:02] <__raFaeL__> changing the subject, I have been searching about Touchscreen on slackware, do you know something about it? [23:02] Mel (i=user@61.1.74.89) joined ##slackware. [23:03] raela|alt (n=raela@c-24-126-91-124.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:03] Hi! [23:04] Is it possible to manually upgrade the kernel from 2.4.33 to 2.6.XX ? [23:04] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5/20090624025744]" [23:04] Nope, i don't __raFaeL__ [23:04] there is some touchscreen input driver in the xorg packages, i dont know much about it because i never used it [23:04] <__raFaeL__> ok [23:05] <__raFaeL__> no problem, I'll search more about it [23:06] Mel: slackware-11 ? i think it is limited how high in the 2.6.xx version you can go [23:08] it's only limited by the toolchain [23:08] update the toolchain and you're golden (IMO) [23:09] What I actually mean is this: I am using Slackware 11.0 (ZipSlack) and I have downloaded the kernel from Slackware 12.2. (kernel-generic-2.6.27.7-i486-1.tgz). Now would it be possible to upgrade it manually, or as a last resort automatically? [23:10] nooooo [23:10] hell no [23:10] you have to compile it by hand [23:10] you mean use explodepkg and attempt to replace the files one by one? [23:11] I meant installpkg kernel-generic-2.6.27.7-i486-1.tgz [23:11] hell no [23:11] just get the newest 2.4.xx sources and build it [23:11] you have to compile it by hand [23:11] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:11] Mel. you have two choices. Long route is to upgrade one version at a time until 12.2. I'm not even sure that might work well.. Easy route is to backup all your info and start over with a fresh install of 12.2 [23:11] or 13rc1 [23:11] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [23:12] i like that 2.4.xx kernel, if it would support my wifi hardware i would be running it on this old laptop right now [23:13] 2.4 hasnt been abandoned yet for security releases, has it? [23:14] changelog updated! [23:14] pattwo (n=sysadmin@d206-75-63-100.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [23:14] 2.4. has not been abandoned [23:14] Well the problem is doing a fresh install. I am quite new with (Slackware) GNU/Linux. I have been using it only for the last 6 months. I have not yet finished downloading v. 12.2. [23:14] why is that a problem? [23:15] zaemis (n=zaemis@cpe-24-58-0-131.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:16] I have a veryyy slowww Internet connection. I am now opting for WiMax, So I think, I will have to upgrade the kernel. Its a big vicious circle. [23:16] zaemis (n=zaemis@cpe-24-58-0-131.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:16] nyc res net... wow [23:17] ok, that would be a problem... i think someone needs to buy the dvd ^_^ [23:17] Fenix-Dark (n=lkjdlkja@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] hey [23:17] mmm,so many updates for tonight [23:17] hi [23:18] anyone know where i could find a -current (64-bit) iso? [23:18] think you gotta rsync it [23:18] Fenix-Dark: ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/ISO-images/slackware/Current-ISO-build/ [23:18] or google [23:19] reallove, its a day old [23:19] lol ty, i'll take it [23:19] lol [23:19] make your own if not ok :p [23:19] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:19] sad... [23:19] i thought i was in ##debian for a sec [23:19] Necos: rtm [23:20] in regards to the "it's a day old" comment supergear [23:22] and wtf does rtm mean? >.> [23:22] ride the mule? [23:23] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [23:23] let's not talk about straterra's saturday night plans >.> [23:25] if anyone does tex/latex I've just uploaded a SB for TexMaker: http://www.unrealize.co.uk/slackbuilds/12.2/texmaker/ [23:25] it's a bit lighter on resources than Kile and has most of the features. Needs QT4 [23:26] need at [23:26] Action: BP{k} needs to have a look at either WineFish or Desigle. [23:27] which wine goes with fish again? red or white? [23:27] desigle? Not heard of that one [23:27] http://code.google.com/p/desigle/ [23:27] Urchlay, WhiteWineFish ;p [23:27] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:27] Urchlay: the wine which is nearest to you ;) [23:28] anyone using tint2? [23:28] BP{k}, a pdf preview pane looks handy [23:28] BP{k}: what if that's not wine you're reaching for? [23:28] Vodka [23:28] BP{k}: or the beer [23:29] Necos: s/wine/booze/ ;) [23:29] beer lol [23:29] laters, sleepytime [23:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:29] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:29] that'd be nasty [23:29] bah deps [23:29] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@173-18-58-139.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [23:30] too much gnomey stuff [23:30] ah, finally, psmouse doesn't automatically get loaded with "proto=imps2" [23:31] i find qt4 apps kinda ugly >.> [23:31] it does have a very plain look about it [23:31] hm, actually, about the only wine I've ever had with fish would be sake (with suhi/sashimi) [23:31] texmaker [23:32] s/suhi/sushi/ [23:32] sake++ [23:32] definatly :) [23:32] Action: BP{k} makes a note to purchase a bottle again [23:32] Action: Necos notes to raid BP{k}'s fridge [23:32] supergear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:33] hmmm, you keep it in the fridge? [23:33] i don't keep alcohol in my house as a rule... [23:33] at restaurants it's always served warm, I dunno a good way to do it without microwaving it [23:34] there is a special temperature to serve it at although I forget which [23:34] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:34] 98.6F I think (standard human body temp) [23:34] zaemis (n=zaemis@cpe-24-58-0-131.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: [23:34] Mel (i=user@61.1.74.89) left irc: "Leaving" [23:34] might be [23:35] i get both cold and warm sake when i'm out tho [23:35] Urchlay: get a a porcelain bottle. Pour sake in the porcelain bottle, warm au-bain-marie [23:35] the cold one is the one to watch out for [23:35] good sake can be had cold. cheaper sake is better warm [23:35] au-bain-marie = in a bucket... full of water? [23:36] in a water bath, like how you'd do chocolate [23:36] to melt it [23:36] ah, something like a double boiler [23:36] Urchlay: depends on your amount ot sake ;) [23:36] but I have dwarmed it in there in past in a small pan then transgered to a teaheater type setup to keep it warm :) [23:36] or you can just dip the sake flask in the hot water, so long as it doesn't go all the way to the top [23:36] right [23:37] but yeah, really good cold sake will fuck you up if you're not careful [23:37] last sake I drank was at home, it was damn near freezing temp [23:37] and yah, it did fuck me up some :) [23:37] you'll be swearing uncontrollably and slouched over a couch in no time [23:38] slKIvs (n=ivan@4.93.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [23:38] phunkedelik (n=phunkede@207.229.35.242) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:39] hmmm, who the fuck is looking at my flickr uploads already >.> [23:39] thought we were done with kernel upgrades before 13... "a/kernel-generic-2.6.29.6-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded. [23:39] besides if you want a cold drink .. ouzo straight from the freezer. [23:39] Action: Urchlay *just* upgraded to 2.6.29.5 3 days ago [23:39] oh damn, ouzo! [23:39] Urchlay, is that todays changelog? [23:39] dive: yah [23:39] oh crap [23:39] I did an update and hibernated the box [23:40] I didn't notice new kernel... [23:40] means I have to update nvidia-kernel and virtualbox-kernel, no biggie I suppose [23:40] which means fun when I boot it up [23:40] d'oh! [23:40] dive: that changelog says it's from Wed Jul 15 20:51:29 CDT 2009 [23:41] yeah that would be the one [23:41] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.7.236) left irc: "Leaving" [23:41] whoops [23:41] strange cos slackpkg usually prompts for running lilo after kernel upgrade [23:41] lol [23:41] well that was only a few hours ago wasn't it? Maybe this went in after your update? [23:42] i think i'm gonna have to kill my buddy who just moved to the philippines... [23:42] could be [23:42] (maybe your mirror hadn't mirrored it yet?) [23:42] its Thu 16 Jul 4:42am here [23:42] __raFaeL__ (n=rafaelk@189.81.11.210) left irc: "Leaving" [23:42] maybe - I am sure I didn't see a kernel there [23:42] CDT is 10pm now? [23:43] CDT = Central Daylight Time, which ought to be either 9PM or 10PM (forget how many hours away from me that is) [23:43] Urchlay: what tz are you? [23:43] which means maybe that changelog's only from an hour + some change ago [23:43] Necos: it's 22:43 here. CDT [23:43] (Central): 22:43 [23:43] eastern [23:43] ah right [23:43] Action: BP{k} slaps fire|bird .. damm you [23:44] oh... [23:44] is 22:39 (yes, my BIOS clock's off by a few mins) [23:44] haha [23:44] eh, sorry, 23:39 [23:44] changelog should really be in UTC ;) [23:44] user05439 (n=dsgjkls@ppp-69-223-58-244.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [23:45] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:45] UTC + discordian [23:45] CcSsNET (n=user@98.216.161.213) joined ##slackware. [23:45] that would be much better... [23:45] apparently my BIOS clock loses 4 or 5 minutes a week. Yeesh, they've only been making clock chips for 30-40 *years* now, you'd think it'd be a mature technology... [23:45] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:45] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [23:46] wow that's a big drift [23:46] (maybe closer to 50 years? anyway a long damn time) [23:46] well, you see what had happened was... [23:46] but what I do is have my boxes poll ntp server on bootup and after suspend/hibernate [23:47] this is a semi-desktop, semi-server, it doesn't hibernate and almost never reboots. I ought to run it from contab... [23:47] *crontab*, damn I can't type [23:47] yeah [23:48] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:48] Urchlay: or use ntpd ? [23:48] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:48] I used to work with a guy whose crappy workstation clock would gain a ridiculous amount, like a minute an hour, something insane (it turned out to be a bug in the debian patched kernel he was running) [23:49] his CVS commits would always appear to be from the future, would confuse CVS and/or make [23:49] lol [23:49] well, here's the new flickr upload set :) http://up.flickr.com/photos/teddy_c/sets/72157621404397935/ [23:49] jesus that would annoying [23:49] BP{k}: blah. I don't really like running a daemon for it, tho I suppose there's no good reason not to [23:49] time to visit his box with a large hammer [23:50] i had that happen to me before... turned out that the clock in the laptop i was working with was completely off... it kept resetting to epoch >.<; [23:50] dive: indeed. I tried to make him fix it, he didn't understand the problem or how to fix it, so I ended up enabling ntpd on his box without telling him [23:50] Necos: hippie BIOS, stuck in the early 70s? [23:51] the cmos battery died [23:51] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-5-253.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:51] possibly the inside of your laptop is a bad hiding place for your dope stash? :) [23:51] lol [23:51] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-72-183.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:51] user05439 (n=dsgjkls@ppp-69-223-58-244.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:51] please, if i wanted to hide dope, i'd use a TI calculator [23:51] ^^ [23:52] I used to hide it inside old Western Electric mechanical telephones (the kind with real bells) [23:52] lol [23:52] 5 years after I quit smoking it, I hooked up an old phone, and it wouldn't ring properly (click-click-click noise), turns out there was a dime bag between the bells [23:53] LOL [23:53] wtf [23:53] can someone do me a favor and do a host and a dig on noobfarm.org and tell me what the IP shows? [23:53] noobfarm.org has address 216.23.240.160 [23:53] which meant I had been driving around with enough pot in my car to get arrested, for 5 years (the phone was in the trunk for that long). All it'd take was getting pulled over by one of those K9 unit cops [23:54] 216.23.240.160 [23:54] k [23:54] good [23:54] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [23:54] so DNS is updated.. just my cache is old [23:54] __raFaeL__ (n=rafaelk@189.81.11.210) joined ##slackware. [23:54] 86.75.30.9 :) [23:54] lol [23:54] hm, that IP does have reverse DNS, but "jenny" isn't in the hostname :( [23:55] fuck, i forgot my 4th of july photos at home... i'll have to wait til i get home to upload 'em [23:56] __raFaeL__ (n=rafaelk@189.81.11.210) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:57] oh, wtf... flickr is saying it might take days to calculate stats for my photos... ;-; [23:57] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [23:58] ping alisonken1church [23:58] y0 mrselfpwn [23:58] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [23:58] hey fire|bird [23:58] what's up [23:58] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [23:59] wow, someone posts a comment on a photo of downtown LA and asks where it was taken from, when the set of pictures is called "Los Angeles High Rooftop Shots" >.> [23:59] mrselfpwn: nm, you? Just working on something atm, then gonna mess with getting boot faster yet. My kernel is 15.34 seconds. [23:59] wow nice [00:00] what are you using to time? [00:00] --- Thu Jul 16 2009