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[01:27] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:31] nader (~nader@85.133.204.104) joined ##slackware. [01:32] robert__ (~robert@187.137.158.221) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:32] vect (brains@ca7-losangeles-1911.dsl.wiredcom.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:32] hi I have set 1024x768 in nouveau for console, but when I switch to X I must manually adjust position and again in console [01:34] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:34] nader: probably need to get your console set right with hardware controls, then create a custom modeline in xorg.conf to make it do right as well. [01:35] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:36] slakmagik: ok how? [01:37] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.223.55) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:38] well, hit the buttons on your monitor for the first. :) For the second, I just run xvidtune and have it dump the line, and copy it into the Monitor section of my config - ModeLine foo. There's probably some new-fangled way to do it, but that's what I do. [01:43] slakmagik: tnx [01:43] nader: welcome [01:45] betageek (rooot@76-10-163-170.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:45] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:45] alphageek (rooot@76-10-163-170.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:46] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [01:46] edthix (~ed@115.135.183.8) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:47] Jennifur (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: need the ram [01:47] nader - did you think of using the binary nvidia driver? [01:48] alisonken1home: seems it's conflicts with nouveau [01:48] correct - you blacklist nouvea to install nvidia [01:52] alisonken1home: ok [01:55] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("rally 'round the family. Pocket full o'shells"). [01:56] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [01:58] nader (nader@85.133.204.104) left ##slackware. [02:01] betageek (rooot@76-10-146-38.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [02:01] alphageek (rooot@76-10-146-38.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [02:03] jhw (~jhw@pc-dat.work.maz.net) joined ##slackware. [02:05] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) left irc: Quit: velusip [02:07] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [02:08] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.60.104) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:09] ugh. I hate it when mobo manufacturers only provide stupid DOS bios update utils, and don't have an update util built into the freakin' bios [02:09] heh [02:09] and my dvd drive is a usb attached one, so my old win98 boot disc won't recognize it [02:09] and I don't have a spare sata dvd drive on hand. [02:10] and this is all because i'm getting "Atom PSE erratum detected, BIOS microcode update recommended [02:10] doh [02:11] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) joined ##slackware. [02:11] mishehu, freedos on a usb flash? [02:11] heya,folks [02:12] slava_dp: I guess that's an option. never done anything with freedos though [02:12] not too much different than msdos [02:12] I even have a win98 rescue floppy image on my usb flash, that boots via syslinux -> memdisk -> win98floppy [02:12] freedos too [02:13] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:13] win98 floppy lacks usb drivers afair though. [02:14] messed with drdos(that was on an old cdrom)...freedos seems the more configurable [02:14] of course - it's not ms limited [02:15] slava_dp: is the file that I need to dl from freedos the ke2039_86f32.zip file? [02:16] what's the website say for the latest? [02:17] the sf.net project page autoselects it, there's other files there too named differently [02:23] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-2-13.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:23] I just discovered something [02:23] Apparently visiting google on DOS invokes a kernel panic [02:23] I installed DOS on my desktop heh [02:24] fatalnix: which version? [02:24] DOS had a kernel? :-) [02:24] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [02:24] FreeDOS [02:24] mishehu, I am not sure. just get the latest one they have. [02:24] I just loaded up arachne and it kernel panicked when Ityped in google.com instead of where it sent me haha [02:25] heya MLanden [02:25] phear teH googol! [02:25] fatalnix: what about lynx? [02:25] heya, trhodes [02:25] I haven't set up lynx yet [02:26] wonder if that project is still active...been a while [02:26] alright well I'm going to screw with this tomrrow [02:27] too tired to even think about finding my usb stick... [02:27] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:31] grazymax (~grazymax@host105-157-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:31] fatalnix: your ethernet card is recognized in freedos? [02:33] is this the only slackware channel around? or are there others worth visisting? [02:34] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:34] yes [02:34] one of my 3 which are installed [02:34] I have 3 [02:34] PITA,like the soundcard? [02:35] I do not want to dial! i want dhcp damn it! [02:36] now the web browser is being a doop [02:38] fatalnix: if you can get the packet driver working http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/internet.htm toffee(the irc client) may still work [02:38] web browser panicked the system just by starting it, so yeah,it wasn't something from the networking stack I dont think [02:38] better than irssi? [02:38] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:39] ooh cool [02:39] why is there a picture of cookie monster on that web page.. lol [02:40] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-117.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [02:40] here's one I never heard of http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/en/LeetIRC [02:41] mishehu (~mishehu@rakdanit.shavedgoats.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:41] looks like one has to scour the web for that one..;) [02:42] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:42] mishehu (~mishehu@rakdanit.shavedgoats.net) joined ##slackware. [02:43] nope...sourceforge page for it works http://sourceforge.net/projects/leetirc/ [02:43] g'night all. [02:43] Orlov (~richard@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Simples! [02:45] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [02:46] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [02:46] grazymax (~grazymax@host68-133-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [02:48] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [02:51] _marc` (~marc@cl-3044.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [02:53] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-235.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:54] I'm guessing most routers today don't understand BOOTP [02:54] least mine don't [02:54] toffee requires it if you don't have a static, which is dumb [02:57] linux as router FTW [02:58] fatalnix_dos (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [02:58] What's new? [02:58] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@94.41.42.120.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:58] heh, not dos ? :P [02:59] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@94.41.42.120.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:59] fatalnix_dos: using toffee? [02:59] LOL [02:59] Because we respect copyright and licenses of Slackware Linux by using crack, keygen, warez password, serial code, pirate keys on Slackware Linux 13.1 is illegal and can stop future developments. [02:59] yes and I joined another channel, couldn't find out how to get back to ##slackware [02:59] http://www.dodownload.com/download/slackware+linux.html [03:00] o_O ohh [03:00] slava_dp: lol [03:00] hah [03:00] Action: linux_probe crack's slava_dp over the head =p [03:00] "Slackware Linux file is not tested by us, yet. [03:01] " [03:01] fatalnix: cool...nice to know it still works...can't alt-1(or alt-f1) etc. etc. to switch? [03:01] blaines_ (~blaines@wsip-70-166-112-44.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:01] fatalnix_dos (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:01] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:02] blaines (~blaines@wsip-70-166-112-44.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:02] blaines_ (~blaines@wsip-70-166-112-44.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [03:02] it only takes 20 minutes to download the message of the day [03:02] fatalnix_dos (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [03:02] Found out how to switch channels, F6 :D [03:03] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: IRC is just multiplayer notepad [03:03] how is dos? [03:03] very uh [03:03] different ? :P [03:04] I used to have it when I playd Wolf4D [03:04] 3D* [03:04] lf4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:07] wolf3d is awesome. [03:07] runs under dosbox too. [03:07] yes. [03:07] yep [03:08] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:08] I have a cd with all doom I and II all versions for windows. it's a recent release, about 2004 :-) [03:08] I just thought of going to #windows but I wouldn't want to be a troll [03:08] and I don't want to yell at people right now. [03:09] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [03:09] hah [03:09] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:09] oh by the way, freedos comes with freedoom, it's so fast, but it also comes with the best CLI doom server manager ever [03:09] & browser [03:10] I need to see if I can't download a driver and set up sound blaster [03:11] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.4) joined ##slackware. [03:11] can anyone help me find my sata controller? http://pastebin.com/QkySrZJf [03:12] fatalnix_dos: dedicated card(legacy) ? [03:12] zux1wrk, looks like it's 00:1f.2 [03:13] not sure. [03:13] huh, this client doesn't highlight when you type my name [03:13] slava_dp, then why is it called IDE interface? [03:13] might not be native sata if it's a legacy mobo. [03:13] it's a new atom box [03:14] 3 days old [03:14] well it's the only line saying "sata" ;-) [03:14] dual core atom + hyperthreading [03:14] oh yeah, it really does say sata [03:14] didn't look that far [03:15] jhw (~jhw@pc-dat.work.maz.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:15] fatalnix_dos: guess not an implementation with MoonRock (as compared to ncurses) [03:15] another question, i'm going to bridge the lan and wifi interfaces on this box, where would be the right place in slackware to do that? [03:16] or just the commands at rc.local? [03:16] I use rc.local for everything. [03:16] easier to track what you did later on. [03:16] yeah, but on networking, rc.local is the last one run [03:17] you could also use rc.inet1 so that you can bring your net interfaces up and down [03:17] so if i need to do some other stuff on the bridged interface [03:17] you can edit rc.S directly too. just don't forget you did it. [03:17] Skywise, yeah, probably, but what`s the syntax to do it in rc.inet1.conf? [03:18] slava_dp, no, i really wouln't like to edit rc.S [03:18] its just a script, you can be fancy and assign variables and then run the commands at the end of the file [03:18] so there's no official way for doing this? [03:19] i just wondered if there was a way, i'd like to do it that way, if there is none, then i'll do it my way [03:19] to be honest, theres just so many ways of doing it [03:19] you could also do it with your firewall rules [03:19] zux1wrk: rc.inet1.conf is just bash variable arrays [03:20] well yeah, and i have already done it that way, just wondered if there was a easier or "cleaner" way to do it [03:20] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:20] slackware's scripts are designed to be edited for one's needs. Pat said so himself. [03:20] alright, enough of this, I need to see if I can't set up something [03:20] fatalnix_dos (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: [03:20] he said they are 'tenplates' :-) [03:21] anyway, i'll only need it if the new kernel will support the wifi device [03:21] you can add support as a module [03:21] slava_dp: lol...bowling mamas..;) [03:21] well i wouldn't want to go anywhere far from his templates, i probably won't understand what i've done after a couple month [03:22] Skywise, seems that this atheros 9271 was not supported by 2.6.33.x [03:22] and should be supported by 2.6.23.1 [03:22] thats ok, as long as you can read, you can figure it out again [03:22] sorry 2.6.34.1 [03:23] i've heard of problems with that adapter, but i thought there was a work around now [03:23] thinking tenpins..:D [03:25] MLanden, bowling mamas? I have a problem with understanding that :) [03:26] Skywise, well it's not recognized in 2.6.33.4 [03:26] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [03:26] it's an usb card [03:26] slava_dp: sorry..was punning on tenplates and tenpins...no offense [03:26] zux1wrk, is there a driver for it? [03:27] oh, you could even be having udev issues [03:27] it should be supported by ath9k in the new kernel [03:27] http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/ATH9K_HTC.html [03:28] rirombo (~rirombo@h43.180.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:28] a have both of those cards and i hope one will work [03:28] Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0cf3:1006 Atheros Communications, Inc. [03:28] Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. [03:30] so you can list the devices, but not use them? [03:31] yep [03:31] sounds like a udev issue to me [03:31] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-235.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:31] are they listed if you run ifconfig -a [03:31] no [03:32] k [03:33] at the link i gave it states that: found in Linux Kernels: found only in HEAD (i.e. after release 2.6.34) [03:34] so i'm hoping for the new kernel [03:34] lf4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) joined ##slackware. [03:35] are there any binary drivers out? [03:36] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:40] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [03:41] Skywise, not that i know [03:41] jhw (~jhw@pc-dat.work.maz.net) joined ##slackware. [03:42] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:51] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-20-41.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:03] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:06] oh, what fun, I've set up my kde to operate the mouse cursor using the numpad keys, woo! I love it! [04:06] no more mouse holding :-) [04:07] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [04:07] slava_dp: ! [04:07] hmm, do you know how to left click with the numpad? I seem to only be able to right-click. [04:08] slava_dp: you disabled barriers and disk write cache for your drives with xfs partitions? they're sata or scsi/... ? [04:08] or pata? [04:08] adrien, :-) [04:08] indeed, i could only right click with that kde feature [04:08] adrien, they are sata. [04:08] slava_dp: doesn't X support that internally? [04:08] slava_dp: you power-cycled since you disabled write cache? [04:08] mako-sama, does it? I've never known it could. [04:09] adrien, yes, one time. [04:09] slava_dp: if KDE is using X method, then you press / * or - to switch between right, middle and left click [04:09] the button press is num5 [04:09] mako-sama, YER A GENIUS [04:09] sorry channel :) [04:09] iirc... it has been few years since the last time I used it [04:10] slava_dp: can you run 'hdparm -W /dev/sdWHATEVER' ? sata disks don't necessarily keep that setting =/ [04:10] mako-sama, thanks, you made my day :) [04:10] I'm going to add that to my rc.lolcat (I always typo that so I gave up writing it the proper way :-) ) [04:10] adrien, I have hdparm -W0 in rc.local. [04:10] heheh ;-) [04:10] slava_dp: btw, just press ctrl+shift+numlock to use it directly without KDE :) [04:11] the same combination to turn it off [04:12] mako-sama, unfortunately I have ctrl+shift bound to keboard layout change, so all ctrl+shift+[x] commands don't work for me. [04:12] ah [04:12] I use alt_shift for that [04:13] or alt+space :P [04:13] Traditionally, we had layout switching on ctrl+shift on windose in my area. So I just kept that in linux. easy on the fingers too. [04:14] I switch a lot. [04:17] I should do vi mode in bash too. should need less cursor moving. [04:17] but that will wait a little :) [04:17] grazymax (~grazymax@host68-133-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:18] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@94.41.42.120.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [04:19] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [04:20] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [04:21] I should also switch to irssi and install vimperator in firefox. that will make a perfect keyboard work machine. [04:21] Action: slava_dp realized today that the mouse sucks. [04:22] too much mouse usage can hurt your wrist [04:22] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Client Quit [04:22] logitech trackman ftw [04:23] oh, I like trackballs, but they are expensive. I've only ever worked with one for an hour. was a joy ;) [04:24] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [04:25] slava_dp: ps/2? [04:25] trackballs are nice indeed [04:25] I find that they're not in the $10 range of mice, but under $50, and you can also find them cheaper [04:25] I've got a slightly more expensive logitech version - bluetooth wireless [04:25] it was a long time ago. [04:25] my boss bought me 2, one for at work and one for at home [04:26] but that's because I don't like cords around my lazyboy recliner :) they get in the way [04:26] oh, crap, I've lost the ability to select text with the numpad mouse :) [04:27] any way to do that? [04:27] does it work with ? [04:28] doesn't seem to. [04:30] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7EB4C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:30] i think trackballs are too clumsy for gaming tho [04:31] depends on the game, but you _can_ have multiple input devices :) [04:31] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:31] they should have made the long [+] and [Return] keys on the right side -- the scroll keys. [04:31] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:32] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [04:33] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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[04:56] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:56] then :n for next file [04:56] so vim bleh* and it opens bleh1, when i'm done editing, want it to switch to the next [04:56] aha! [04:56] :wn [04:57] awesome, thanks Zordrak, just increased my productivity =) [04:57] :w to write changes, n to go to next [04:57] np :) [04:57] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [04:57] can you open multiple files in split view in vim? [04:58] never used split view [04:58] phrag: :N to go to previous :) [04:58] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [04:58] slava_dp: yes - but not easy to work with [04:58] Action: rworkman figured that one out on accident. [04:59] slava_dp: there is an option for that but don't know how it works [04:59] i think :split or something or vsplit [04:59] yes, I work with :split and :vsplit all the time. [05:00] but i'd like to 'open' the documents in split view from the start :) [05:00] Xenius[xchat] (~Xenius@81.18.126.40) left irc: Client Quit [05:00] betageek (rooot@206-248-153-159.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [05:00] I guess /me needs to -> #vim [05:00] alphageek (rooot@206-248-153-159.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [05:04] Is anyone using ksh? [05:04] not since 4000BC? [05:04] That is, is there something like tcsh's !$? [05:04] ksh is oldschool :D [05:04] Has it completely fallen out of favor then? [05:05] no, I doubt it [05:05] rirombo: what does !$ do in csh? [05:05] don't know about csh - but know about bash :) [05:05] rworkman: In bash too.. Puts the last argument of the previous command where it's found [05:05] I was a ksh user until recently when I switched to bash for the git completion stuff :) [05:05] 'where it's found' == wherever !$ appears [05:07] I'm not aware of anything like that in ksh, and I know it doesn't have !$ [05:07] That being said, I wasn't aware of it in bash/csh either. [05:08] Bash also has somthing like M-. that does the same thing. !$ was a tcsh thing that bash borrowed. [05:08] Thank you, however. Makes me wonder why I'm using ksh and not bash. [05:08] aa [05:09] _ Initially, the value of _ is an absolute pathname of the shell or script being executed as passed in the [05:09] environment. Subsequently it is assigned the last argument of the previous command. [05:09] ksh(1) -- search for "last arg" [05:09] betageek (rooot@206-248-153-159.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [05:09] alphageek (rooot@206-248-153-159.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:10] $ echo blah foo [05:10] blah foo [05:10] $ echo $_ [05:10] foo [05:10] You have a winner. :-) [05:10] AH, thanks :) [05:11] Action: rworkman still uses ksh on connie - no git work done there. [05:11] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [05:11] I use vi mode on bash too. [05:12] why'd you start with ksh ? [05:12] emacs mode ftw! (waits for the flaming) [05:12] haha, i like my emacs / readline bindings just fine, thank you :) [05:13] It was an academic exercise to begin with - I was dabbling with openbsd, which uses ksh as THE shell, so I started using it on my linux boxes, and it just stuck. [05:13] ah ok [05:13] well, everyone starts as a child before they grow up :) [05:13] ksh was like the basis for a lot of newer shell concepts [05:14] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-174-41.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:14] Hey wobbles! [05:14] Seriously, the git completion stuff for bash is seventeen degrees of awesome. [05:14] Huh? [05:14] hi [05:14] lo [05:14] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [05:15] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.4) got netsplit. [05:15] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) got netsplit. [05:15] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-216-141.dynamic.hinet.net) got netsplit. [05:15] goj (~goj@p5488FEDD.dip.t-dialin.net) got netsplit. [05:15] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@200.204.235.32) got netsplit. [05:15] idle` (~idle@2a01:e35:2f43:4b00:20d:f0ff:fe56:8f4) got netsplit. [05:15] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) got netsplit. [05:15] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) got netsplit. 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[05:16] ;-) [05:16] loking for pm-utils or something [05:16] fatalnix: damn..sprites must be humonguous...;) [05:16] MLanden: yep. [05:17] akhe (~akhe@87.63.161.86) joined ##slackware. [05:17] fatalnix: pm-utils is part of Slackware since 12.2 iirc [05:17] ml4711 (~morten@0x50a69862.rdnxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) returned to ##slackware. [05:17] you can see the individual pixels in the font are size over 9000 [05:18] Sikis (~sikis@97.107.142.142) returned to ##slackware. [05:18] fatalnix: speaking 'bout C64...was messing with one of the convos for Wizard of Wor recently [05:18] ron1n (~ron1n@70.44.172.13.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) returned to ##slackware. [05:18] rworkman: oh really? heh heh heh... Why did I install it again..? lol [05:18] fatalnix: dunno :) [05:18] most excellent game [05:18] lol [05:18] Action: rworkman should go take a nap now. Long drive ahead later. 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[05:22] jhw (~jhw@pc-dat.work.maz.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [05:22] Linux used to be kind of cool in the 1990s and now it is for dumb bitches. Slackware is the most UNIX-like linux there is so take your logic one step further and go even more UNIX-like : FreeBSD or OpenBSD [05:22] goj (~goj@p5488FEDD.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [05:22] linux is ffoor bitches and dumb ones at that [05:22] Puffy-BSD (puffy@cpe-204-210-143-71.hvc.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [05:22] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@cpe-204-210-143-71.hvc.res.rr.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [05:22] goj (~goj@p5488FEDD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [05:22] alisonken1home: i think it's finally over [05:22] poor bsd guys who have to bear that guy =/ [05:22] hehe [05:22] heh [05:23] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [05:23] alphageek (rooot@206-248-183-104.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [05:23] whatayaknow - bsd guys have their own chris punches [05:23] lol....guess suse or debain 'emulation' must've driven him over the edge [05:23] betageek (rooot@206-248-183-104.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [05:23] imagine if the NES had a serial port. online gaming would have been completely different by now [05:23] ... [05:24] it was completely capable of it! [05:24] _slax0r_ (fire@slackware.x-shells.org) left irc: Excess Flood [05:24] _slax0r_ (fire@slackware.x-shells.org) joined ##slackware. [05:24] debian* [05:24] true,fatalnix...just imagine the cool hacks..:D [05:24] I know! [05:25] no one would care about people cheating half the time because everyone would be trying to see what they could do with it! [05:25] sizzers (~sizzers@c-68-41-173-143.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:25] MapMan (mapman@2001:470:1f0a:120e::fe) joined ##slackware. [05:26] but yeah it had a 6502, it was completely capable of communicating over an rs232 [05:26] but they didn't have one. [05:26] colmcille (~colmcille@94.30.27.232) joined ##slackware. [05:26] Duck hunt would have been rated better than tetris [05:26] think if one had the famcom pieces(like in Japan) [05:27] floppy disk? heh [05:27] o/ [05:27] the famicom had a floppy disk drive you could attach [05:27] I saw a zelda floppy disk as well [05:28] Sorry, I couldn't go to bed after I saw PuffyAss arrive... [05:28] http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/thumb/4/43/Famicom_Zelda_Disk.png/180px-Famicom_Zelda_Disk.png [05:28] lol [05:28] 02:17 [freenode] -!- Puffy-BSD [puffy@cpe-204-210-143-71.hvc.res.rr.com] [05:28] 02:17 [freenode] -!- ircname : Kevin Francis Burke [05:28] puffyass? [05:28] http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=486861 [05:28] I love it. :) [05:28] DAMN IT you made me google it too fast and I told wmii to kill my browser cause of what I saw [05:29] His other nick "Angevin" sounds strangely familiar too. [05:29] I'm too tired [05:29] haha. so much for a bsd zealot. [05:30] But I don't know where I've seen it. If he were as smart as he thinks he is, he'd know that there are many in this community with elephantile memories. [05:30] ... [05:30] fatalnix: on the Famicom...sorta http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Famicom_disk_system.jpg hate to have known the speed [05:30] Cornwall is in canaday [05:30] canada* [05:30] right above the border [05:30] puffy stopped by for a visit earlier today, too [05:31] Well, someone forward that info along to him next time he's in. I'm really off to bed this time. [05:31] ok, enjoy your sleep :) [05:31] :) [05:31] heh, cya [05:31] trhodes: orly?!? how'd it go? [05:31] MLanden: same as this time [05:31] I should go to bed too [05:32] its 5:30 in the morning [05:32] Action: rworkman loves hoisting people by their own petard... [05:32] a quick one-two *BSD punch and leave [05:32] ;D [05:32] night,rworkman [05:32] 'night [05:37] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [05:38] dont let the boogey evil killer wumpus slimy mucos esouphagusing meteorite slamaging pintsize cackling chair spinning jigglypuff snuggling roadrage smashing wall yelling floor sliding door knocking wabbit hunting pike catching toolbox sniffing pillow stuffing waddle bunniez bite. [05:38] eww [05:38] eww is right! [05:38] they will eat you! [05:39] lol....jigglypuff?!? [05:39] don't ask [05:39] ok...won't [05:39] I had to think of something other than bunny [05:40] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-116-131.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [05:40] I figured you would question the toolbox sniffing [05:40] actually [05:41] rnsg [05:47] Whatever happened to plain ordinary bedbugs? [05:49] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.24.156) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:50] damn it [05:50] I have that jiggly puff lullaby from snap years ago stuck in my head damn it [05:50] im going to bed lol [05:51] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.22.137) joined ##slackware. [05:53] Nick change: BiCHiTo -> Sauron|Out [06:05] MLanden (~MLanden@141.152.171.242) left irc: Quit: Later,folks! [06:12] hey sbopkg is just like ports on bsd [06:12] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:13] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. 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Between Heaven And Hell [In Memories Of Ronnie James Dio] (2010) now thats recovery. just awesome [08:52] i think with the 13.1 release sbo has received the most submissions ever [08:53] oh yeah? [08:53] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:54] well, maybe. apart from launching the site, obviously ;) [08:55] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [08:57] is there something else where i can configure console resolution (init 3) besides lilo? [08:57] i have vga = normal in the lilo conf [08:58] the screen is ok, while loading kernel, but goes blank after that [08:58] wobbles (huntsman@C-61-68-174-41.bur.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:58] the box is up and I can access it via ssh [08:58] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:59] zux1wrk: what type video card? [08:59] yes, setterm iirc -- it's been a while [08:59] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) [08:59] you can remove vga= completely and it should use kms instead [08:59] ok, i'll try that [09:00] though.. [09:00] strangly, i installed it on a HD monitor, with 1920x1080, but that shouldn't matter, right? [09:00] or not, there def. is a tool [09:00] i wouldn't think so [09:00] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:02] JDif (~jdifool@mon75-3-82-67-194-134.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:05] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:08] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:08] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:09] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:11] Roin (~florian@p5B2BDD5B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:12] does anyone have a machine with a C compiler that is not gcc nor msvc? I'd like to know the behaviour of: 'touch a.h && ${CC} -c a.h' [09:13] (does it fail? does it create a .h.gch file?...) [09:14] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [09:17] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Sto andando via [09:17] colmcille (~colmcille@94.30.27.232) left irc: Quit: NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o [09:17] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-awhrbvplevplicqp) joined ##slackware. [09:18] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [09:19] cfdisk (~cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) joined ##slackware. [09:20] vect (brains@ca7-losangeles-1911.dsl.wiredcom.net) joined ##slackware. [09:20] Hi, I am getting no video in vlc 1.1.0-pre3 alienbob's package on Slackware 13.0. Here is output of vlc -vvv --list: http://www.pastie.org/1045580 [09:21] never_mind (~dexter@219.64.95.198) joined ##slackware. [09:22] Nick change: never_mind -> Dexter [09:22] Dexter (~dexter@219.64.95.198) left irc: Client Quit [09:22] eXgame (~eXgame@78-60-222-36.static.zebra.lt) joined ##slackware. [09:22] never_mind (~dexter@219.64.95.198) joined ##slackware. [09:23] never_mind (~dexter@219.64.95.198) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:26] GrooveDroid (default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:28] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [09:30] Oak: a "vlc -vvv" output would be more to the point, after you have tried to open a video file copy/paste the output. The module listing is not useful [09:33] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.24.130) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:33] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.24.130) joined ##slackware. [09:33] stinky, didn't help, still a blank screen [09:34] zux1wrk: have you tried other vga= settings? [09:34] zux1wrk: i am not exactly sure though it seems like an issue with kms [09:35] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:35] zux1wrk: my kernel is customized and I don't have the default slackware one to look at to see whether kms is default for your chip or not. [09:35] well it was vga = normal and before it was the default, 1024x768 i think [09:35] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:36] strange thing is that it started after i compiled my own kernel [09:36] so i gues that booting the slackware original should be ok [09:36] but it's not [09:36] TClayton (~tony@184.1.66.109) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [09:36] ahh [09:36] zux1wrk: well in that case.. [09:36] zux1wrk: hold one sec [09:36] so i believe i must have changed somthing in lilo.conf when i added the second kernel [09:37] ok, holding [09:37] TClayton (~tony@184.1.66.109) joined ##slackware. [09:38] zux1wrk: if you cd /usr/src/ [09:39] either make menuconfig or grep the .config [09:39] grep for what? [09:39] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [09:40] skycrash (~sky@189.58.122.246.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:40] what do you have at Device Drivers > Graphics Support > /dev/agpgart and Direct Rendering.. ? [09:40] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-103.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:41] Intel Corporation 82945G [09:42] hmm, in /dev/agpgart (which is module) the only intel card mentioned is Intel 440LX/BX/GX, I8xx and E7x05 chipset support [09:42] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:42] check that you've compiled with the framebuffer option [09:42] allend (~allend@CPE-124-181-140-120.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:43] well the kernel is actually made from slackware's config file with some small corrections [09:43] but i can't find the 82945G there [09:44] well, it is one of those [09:44] there is framebuffer support compiled in it [09:44] i think I8xx though may be wrong [09:45] well all of them where compiled as modules [09:45] i think the last think i saw before the screen went blank was i915 something [09:45] i945 actually it looks like [09:45] but this still wouldn't explain why the original kernel doesn't work too [09:46] k, now, this is just me though what i would do is make those built in instead of modules [09:46] thinking that this box won't be used with a monitor, i'm starting to not like the compilations :) [09:47] build the i915 agpgart directly in [09:47] for intel and do the same for dri is my suggestion [09:47] but anyway, without all of the stuff, i should be able to boot in normal resolution console, i really don't any bigger resolution [09:48] stinky, ok, i'll try that, but only when i'll go home [09:48] then pass the kernel command line to disable kms.. [09:48] kernel compilations ain't very fast on the atom box [09:48] if you want normal vga only [09:49] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [09:49] that would be something like "Linux disable kms? [09:49] you can't disable kms for intel [09:49] oh you can't now? [09:50] x.org depends on KMS for the intel driver, it won't work without it [09:50] i don't need xorg [09:50] it will be console only? [09:50] yes [09:50] oh, that's silly :> you can then [09:50] :) [09:51] so, what's the command? [09:51] you can probably do it in lilo.conf with "i915.modeset=0" or something [09:51] or something? [09:52] ok, where can i find the syntax? [09:52] thrice`: right that is what i am talking about [09:52] i was looking for the command [09:52] ok, i'm obviously out of it, i'm going to go back to lurking :> [09:52] :) [09:52] no, all good because I couldn't remember the command. [09:53] stinky, so that command is correct? [09:53] yes [09:54] ok, thanks [09:54] i'm now compiling compat-wireless, hoping the ath9271 will work [09:54] Roin (~florian@p5B2BDD5B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: bbl o/ [09:59] mosno (mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) left ##slackware. [09:59] archceza1 (1000@abn226.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:02] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:06] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:07] Srbo (~Srbo@p4FE92843.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [10:07] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:09] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [10:09] newman (~newone@78-105-250-38.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:11] stinky, thrice` thanks, it worked. i now have a working console [10:11] jaskorpe (jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:11] great [10:12] zux1wrk: you can now use the vga= and set it to the resolution you desire [10:12] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [10:12] i don't really desire a resolution [10:12] i will ever need it only if something goes wrong [10:13] server? [10:13] something like that [10:13] small server/router for a small office [10:13] snoop (~sqd@APuteaux-153-1-61-82.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [10:14] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:14] now i have another question, what is git? [10:14] distributed version control [10:15] Google it. There's MUCH more than you can possibly learn in here given how widespread its use is. (i.e. the Linux Kernel) [10:15] created by Linus himself [10:15] i'm trying to download ar9271.fw from here: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/dwmw2/linux-firmware.git;a=tree [10:15] zux1wrk: http://progit.org/ hat tip to rworkman [10:15] Also there's a video of Linus presenting Git to Google. [10:15] but i get a 0 byte file [10:15] zux1wrk: yeah, the vid Zordrak mentioned is a good place to start [10:16] stinky: wrong. that vid is a rant in google devs faces. NOT how to use git. that said, i enjoyed it :) [10:17] anyone give me link to burning a folder to dvd for storage with line command ? [10:17] jg71: well, i said a start lmao [10:17] frame of mind start [10:17] i enjoyed it as well. :) [10:17] 4XpnKHJAok8 is the youtube code, in case you are curious now ;) [10:18] it is what made me want to use git anyway. [10:18] i'm already waching it [10:18] that probably won't help me in downloading the ar9271.fw [10:19] yeah, but youll enjoy the vid. everyone else has and i have yet to come across someone who didnt ; [10:20] newman (~newone@78-105-250-38.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:21] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:23] jaskorpe (~jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) joined ##slackware. [10:23] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [10:23] anyway, how do i get the file from git? [10:24] click on raw? [10:26] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:26] zux1wrk: ^^^ [10:26] hmm, that gives me exactly 4096 bytes size [10:26] strange. [10:26] but at that webpage it states 51280 [10:27] 51280 2010-07-15 16:24 /tmp/ar9271.fw [10:27] jaskorpe (~jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:27] zux@tofiks:~$ ls Desktop/ar9271.fw -la [10:27] -rw-r--r-- 1 zux users 4096 2010-07-15 17:24 Desktop/ar9271.fw [10:27] :( [10:27] k, ill help you out... [10:28] zux1wrk, atm i am compiling as this: https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/89102/ [10:28] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [10:28] try nuking.org/ar9271.fw [10:28] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:28] via wget f.e. [10:28] jg71, thanks [10:29] got it? ill delete it then. [10:29] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [10:29] just a moment [10:29] ok, now i'v got ir [10:29] it [10:29] k [10:30] john_dee (~id@93-81-118-112.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:35] john_dee (~id@95-29-188-8.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:36] fb|jean (champus@s15224318.onlinehome-server.info) left ##slackware. [10:39] Nick change: Sauron|Out -> BiCHiTo [10:41] thanks jg71 . hot the atheros 9271 working [10:42] niiice. do you intend to document it somewhere? blog? mailinglist? [10:43] zux1wrk, are you using "compat-wireless-2.6.33.6.tar.bz2"? [10:43] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [10:44] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Sto andando via [10:45] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:45] powtrix, no, it's compat-wireless-2010-07-14 [10:46] link please [10:46] looks like kernel-2.6.34.1 doesn't have the ath9k_htc module [10:46] start here [10:46] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc [10:46] the package was here: [10:46] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/ [10:50] allend (~allend@CPE-124-181-140-120.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:50] jaskorpe (jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) joined ##slackware. [10:50] you will also need to download the firmware that i had problems with [10:51] I was trying it days ago, FW and modules didn't work [10:52] compiling now the 14/07 stuff [10:55] Roin (~florian@p5B2BDD5B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:56] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:57] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:01] nachox_ (~imarambio@201.254.122.181) joined ##slackware. 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[11:41] blacklinux (~blacklinu@121.54.29.50) joined ##slackware. [11:42] well im configuring my root windows manager, then i encountered a fatal error 11 how can i restore it? [11:42] tony_one: when you execute the slackbuild script, you can do it like this: ./Some.slackbuild >> build.log 2>&1 [11:42] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:42] tony_one: then after it's done you can edit the build.log file and find out what happened. [11:43] ok will do mishehu,never tried that before [11:43] tony_one: what it does is put all console output and all error output to the file [11:44] then i think one of the windows manager i selected was a fail [11:44] then my screen went black then exited the startx then it says fatal error 11 [11:44] mishehu, should i pastebin it ? [11:45] i cant see any errors [11:45] zux1wrk, are you using wicd? [11:47] anyone? [11:48] http://pastebin.com/uPdXLbdg thats all the output [11:48] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424728.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [11:48] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424728.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:49] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.4) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:50] tony_one, try to remove the "set -e" from the top of the slackbuild and try again [11:50] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-10.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:50] xcdroast.slackbuild script thrice` ? [11:50] stop [11:51] chris_scummette (chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-10.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware. [11:51] tony_one, yes, you'll see "set -e" near the top of the slackbuild; remove that line, and re-run it [11:51] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-10.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:51] chris_scummette (chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-10.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware. [11:51] ok will do thanks [11:51] blacklinux (~blacklinu@121.54.29.50) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:51] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-10.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:53] that worked thrice` thanks, what does set -e do ? [11:56] makes it exit on errors [11:56] since yours was compiling just fine, something with either the man page 'find' command or documentation copying (both trivial) were causing it to die out un-necessarily [11:57] jnylin (~jnylin@c-7471e655.177-7-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [11:57] yeah [11:58] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [12:02] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [12:04] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Client Quit [12:04] slck-o (~cris@201.22.14.248.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:05] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.113.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:11] tony_one, I have same problems with some slackbuilds and "building" documentation, but my problem was I'm not used real root, used just (su) instead of (su -) [12:11] fart [12:14] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-10.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:14] wertik_ (~wertik@95-24-186-128.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:18] set -e if for debugging [12:18] http://pastebin.com/gLurV7De << im trying to cp a folder onto a dvd and not having luck seems to burn ok but dmesg shows this, tried xcdroast and k3b [12:18] cp ? [12:18] dont know if my drive is working or not [12:19] i put packages onto a disc phrag [12:19] archcezar (1000@abn226.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:19] saves me building them when i resinstall [12:20] i copied a iso yesterday and burned it onto dvd but cant seem to do this [12:21] try dd ? [12:21] to put the folder onto disc ? [12:22] i copied the iso and burned it onto dvd fine, just putting this folder onto disc [12:23] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:23] an iso isnt a folder... [12:23] http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialCDBurn.html [12:23] oh no that was a linux distro [12:23] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [12:25] phrag , can you use cdrecord dev=3,0,0 /folder ? [12:25] i'm having issues with akonadi. i found a post on ubuntu forums and they mention stopping apparmor. does slackware use that? i have an nfs home... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/365124 [12:26] mdeanda, no [12:27] thrice`: have you dealt with my issue? [12:27] i can't get to kmail b/c of it. :( [12:27] wertik_ (~wertik@95-24-186-128.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:27] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-10.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:27] wertik_ (~wertik@95-24-186-128.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:28] nope; just mentioning that slack doesn't have app armor :> [12:28] im going to have to buy a dvdrw disc im running out of dvd-r discs :( [12:28] thrice`: heh. thanks. at least i can cross that out. [12:31] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:32] man installing freedos to a usb key drive is reaaaaally slow [12:32] (from the cdrom) [12:32] mishehu: if you think that's slow, try installing it from floppies.. [12:32] :P [12:32] why do you want FreeDOS anyway? [12:32] mdeanda: I'm afraid to find out. it even said so itself that it's slow. [12:33] Roin: I have to update the bios on my atom mini-itx [12:33] oh I see [12:33] Roin: there's some sort of atom-related "PSE" errata that affects my machine [12:33] doesnt sound good ._. [12:33] and I have no floppy drive and no internal dvd drive. [12:34] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-4-10.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:34] mishehu: can you setup network boot to freedos? hehe.. seems like overkill possibly, but fun. [12:34] Roin: yah I donno what that errata is about, but I'd prefer not to find out :-) [12:34] mdeanda: I wouldn't be messing with this if it weren't for the fact that the bios on this system doesn't have a built-in flash update util like some of my other motherboards [12:35] GArik_ (~wesnoth@95-29-242-42.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:35] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [12:35] kylan (~kylan@c-66-41-172-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:36] mishehu: what board is it? maybe some of us should also update bios [12:37] mdeanda: zotac ionitx-d series [12:37] it's one of those atom n330 proc boards with an nvidia graphics chipset on the mobo. [12:40] this nvidia ion stuff? [12:40] I just reloaded slack on it, and put kernel 2.6.34.1. I just happened to be glancing through dmesg and saw the bits about the errata there heh [12:40] Roin: yah ion == nvidia graphics + atom proc [12:40] I see [12:40] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-30-151.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:40] and the n300 atom is dual core, so it's actually not too shabby for a low powered proc [12:41] my N450 is a single core [12:41] tsccof (~tsccof@189.73.164.84) joined ##slackware. [12:41] I'd say that when it comes to encoding video from mpeg2ts to mkv-h264, it can handle 1/2 to 2/3 as many fps as my amd athlon64 am2 6000+ [12:41] mishehu: you use it as a desktop? i have one (not ion) that i got as a fileserver.. well more like a backup box.. runs software raid 5 and i boot it to do an rsync once every few days (manually for now) [12:42] mdeanda: wow o_O [12:42] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:42] I already get into trouble when I want to view 720p clips on youtube [12:42] mdeanda: I was using it as a server, but I need to schlepp it with me to a conference to be another encoder for the video. it might be running as a desktop for that [12:42] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [12:43] and by server I mean, mostly just testing [12:43] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:43] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [12:43] all via ssh [12:44] i wonder if they can playback 1080p video through hdmi well. or rather, i wonder what's the lowest-end one that can be used for it. i'd like to setup a mythtv/freevo box to view stuff. the ps3 was a bit let-down for that. since i need to run a fancy server and encode them a specific way. most of my stuff is mkv+divx and will eventually be h264 (when i update rip-script) [12:44] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:44] mdeanda: you need ion for that [12:45] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [12:45] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:45] mishehu: you think any ion is powerful enough? [12:45] mdeanda: as you can offload the processing to the nvidia graphics chipset [12:45] tsccof (tsccof@189.73.164.84) left ##slackware. [12:45] mdeanda: I wouldn't bother with any ion that doesn't have a dual core atom proc [12:45] cool. thanks. [12:46] tsccof (~tsccof@189.73.164.84) joined ##slackware. [12:47] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [12:47] mdeanda: for all intents and purposes, if it weren't for the fact that I play games, it'd probably make a very decent desktop for me. [12:47] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [12:47] and certainly uses less than the ~300 watts my main desktop sucks down [12:49] Nick change: wertik_ -> wertik_home [12:50] my 4-disk raid 5 uses 55 watts when powered on, 3 when off... [12:51] that's with a cheap power supply. i bought a "green" one also, but it was much bigger and didn't fix my home-made "case" [12:52] one disk -> around 5W ; one disk when spinning up -> around 15W [12:52] I think something got introduced in the kernel not to spin up all the disks at the same time [12:52] yeah, i need to setup hdparams to spin it down after about an hour... it doesn't get much usage, only durring rsync sessions [12:53] adrien: would that be a special param or it's automatic? [12:54] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-64-170.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:54] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-25-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:56] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:56] not sure [12:57] powtrix- (~powtrix@189-69-29-223.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[13:06] mdeanda: http://linuxappfinder.com/package/spindown [13:08] or an sdparm/hdparm script to do the job [13:12] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-64-170.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:14] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:18] ZMR_ (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [13:18] ZMR_ (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:19] Destructo (~MM@64.134.103.107) joined ##slackware. [13:20] hey has anyone tried UNetbootin .. ? [13:20] yes [13:21] it's really pointless though because if you know how just using grub on your usb stick works best [13:21] stinky i have a dell mini with no cdrom . using usb [13:21] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:21] Destructo: and you want to install slackware? [13:22] needed for install of linux distro [13:22] 1) create a usb instaler 2) netinstall 3)?? 4) profit. [13:22] well its not listed in the downloading images.. so im going with frugalware .. its slackware based [13:22] well slackware has a usb version [13:22] oh .. [13:22] Action: Destructo craps [13:22] well, usb install img [13:23] Destructo: Frugalware has very little to do with Slackware. [13:23] oh [13:23] auska (~auska@62.Red-88-19-202.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [13:23] hi [13:23] damn i thought it was based .. [13:23] even opensuse is Slackware based. in fact its more Slackware based than frugalware (IMNSHO) [13:23] Destructo: http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.1/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [13:24] Orlov (~richard@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-26-220.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:25] i have a problem my laptop doesn't find my wifi, thing that before did... and i know that isn't problem from the wifi since a friend came yestarday and could connect to wireless... [13:25] what can i try? [13:25] what are you trying to scan with? [13:25] tsccof (~tsccof@189.73.164.84) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [13:25] gezley (~gezley@86-42-211-7-dynamic.b-ras1.cld.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [13:26] iwconfig [13:26] ..maybe [13:28] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-29-223.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:28] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [13:28] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [13:29] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:29] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:30] thrice`, i did iwlist scan and i didn't found my wireless and wicd neither... [13:30] Destructo, the problem isn't at the iwconfig since it found some... the problem is that don't found mine! lol [13:30] stinky: thanks for the link. (my computer sorta-crashed and i had to reboot) [13:32] hmm 1) does the USA recognise the patent held by the Fraunhofer Society and other entities regarding MP3 encoders? and if such, why does frugalware ship to the states? ;) [13:33] auska, ah, and it's not a hidden-named SSID or so? [13:33] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-41.viapori.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:34] i think it isn't but if it was how can i with wicd if is possible find a hidden-named SSID? [13:38] mishehu: correction, my server uses 60 watts, but has 4 3.5 sata drives and a 2.5 ide drive... if i spin them all down it's 40 watts [13:41] _marc` (~marc@cl-3044.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:45] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-27-103.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:45] slackerpete (~slackerpe@213.122.218.128) joined ##slackware. [13:48] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:48] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-26-220.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:48] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [13:50] am i right in thinking that RAID 1+0 is a bit like RAID + MIRROR BACKUP at the same time? [13:51] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:53] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:54] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:54] dustybin: no. [13:55] and don't use the word 'backup' when you're talking about raid. [13:55] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@200.204.235.32) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [13:55] of course, wikipedia has great articles on raid levels [13:56] ok [13:57] auska (~auska@62.Red-88-19-202.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Quit: Me'n vaig [13:58] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:58] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-30-51.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[14:42] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@wc-grupokfc.telconet.net) joined ##slackware. [14:43] my eyes... http://nsd.dyndns.org/pwsafe/ [14:45] it would be neat if there was a SlackBuild for i-dosing [14:45] j0z (unix@189.58.27.2.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:46] dunolie (~Robbie@unaffiliated/bingowingz) joined ##slackware. [14:46] Nick change: wertik_ -> wertik_home [14:48] figabo (~MacOSX@201.164.183.47) joined ##slackware. [14:49] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:49] AlexElliott (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:49] I'm trying to help a friend with a unraid setup, It seems to be based on slackware, I can't find the man command at all in the default path. there are man pages just no man binary.. would someone be able to tell me where I could find a copy of the slackware man binary? [14:50] HoldMyPocket (~charleskh@smtp.cusonet.com) joined ##slackware. [14:50] features.. "Funny comments included in source code." hahaha [14:50] _marc` (~marc@cl-3044.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [14:51] which man reveals /usr/bin/man [14:52] dunolie, its in diskset ap [14:53] dunolie: see if `echo /var/log/packages/man-*` shows anything [14:53] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-31-185.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:53] dunolie, the faqs and how-tos are in diskset f [14:53] i ran grep man- /var/lob/packages/* [14:54] bash: /var/log/packages/man-*: No such file or directory [14:54] grep man- /var/log/package/* [14:54] if i bought 6x 2TB disks and configured them with soft raid-5, would they take forever to expand? [14:55] i would think so [14:55] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-30-51.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:55] thats what im thinking, i think RAID-5 is more suited to smaller array sizes [14:55] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [14:55] its takes a lot of cpu to generate the blocks to write [14:55] eeeek [14:55] this is not the full slackware distro though, just based on it, and I'm just ssh'ing in and don't have access to the boot disk [14:55] dunolie: "based on it" means exactly what? [14:56] Skywise: does the same go with RAID-6 [14:56] dunolie: what does "cat /etc/*rsio*" show? [14:56] $ help [14:56] GNU bash, version 3.1.17(2)-release (i486-slackware-linux-gnu) [14:56] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:56] that's why I believe it's based on it [14:57] dustybin, yeah same reasons, raid 1 and raid 0 don't use much cpu [14:57] the ONLY downside to RAID 10 is cost, but thats it [14:57] but anything that uses parity is gonna take cpu [14:57] cat: /etc/*rsio*: No such file or directory [14:57] and hard drives are pretty cheap now [14:57] Skywise: how many disk failures can one have using RAID 10? 2 ? [14:58] :) [14:58] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [14:58] dustybin, you fail [14:58] yeah you could do pairs of raid 1 drives in an lvm [14:58] Skywise: i do that for my OS right now [14:58] system disk [14:58] dunolie: hmm interesting. Seems a rather incomplete install of something vaguely slackware based but not slackware. [14:58] oops, dunolie is the one who fails [14:58] md0 : active raid1 sda1[0] sdc1[1] [14:58] yup /me fails [14:59] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:59] that bash version string is aking to the one appearing in slackware-12.2 me thinks. [15:00] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) joined ##slackware. [15:00] ahh [15:01] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [15:02] I have seen Slackware spin-offs that were too lazy to recompile their glibc/gcc - hence i486-slackware-linux will show up still [15:02] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:03] dustybin: it took about 8hrs i think to build 4 1.5T disks on an atom machine.. cpu usage was very low during this time. i haven't checked cpu during large transfers. seems to rsync my 2T of crap in about 10 minutes when there aren't many changes. lots of files. [15:04] mdeanda: ace :D [15:04] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [15:04] would someone be kind enough to mail me a copy of their man binary so I can see if that will work on it? [15:04] http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2010-July/003708.html <- meego (intel's distribution) being unable to ship its "own" graphic driver [15:04] dunolie: cat /etc/slackware-version [15:05] cat: /etc/slackware-version: No such file or directory [15:05] no such file or directory [15:05] easy guess [15:05] hmm. are you use it's slackware then? [15:05] dunolie: ls /var/log/packages [15:05] ? [15:06] dunolie: some distros use *release* [15:06] dunolie: (if you get anything back, add | grep man) [15:06] /etc/*release* [15:06] 'nmap -O 127.0.0.1' :P [15:06] http://pastebin.mozilla.org/749403 [15:06] "they" should really standardize that.. maybe a /etc/distro file would be nice. [15:06] there was no man [15:07] looks like slack 13 [15:07] I don't understand the listing of that folder... [15:07] mdeanda: agree [15:08] is that an os? it doesnt even have a kernel [15:08] heh [15:08] I'm under the impression there is another package manager which is the primary one and pkgtools is also installed, meaning it can install slackware packages [15:09] or someone got real happy with removepkg [15:11] sahko, it's a raidbox os http://lime-technology.com/ unraid it's called [15:12] that explains it [15:12] I don't think it is even useful to get a man binary on that system. TO make man work you will need other packages too. groff comes to mind, perhaps others [15:13] i wonder if other distros use /var/log/packages... [15:13] Why not just use google to read man pages? [15:13] just install diskset ap [15:13] google sounds like a good idea [15:13] ls /usr [15:13] adm@ bin/ doc/ include/ info/ lib/ libexec/ local/ man/ sbin/ share/ spool@ src/ tmp@ [15:14] i use lynx to read man pages [15:14] it's odd that it has man pages, but no binary to read them [15:14] dunolie: if you need man i would suggest getting something like retawq [15:14] thanks stinky :) [15:14] dunolie: and i can share a "man" script that will get the info from the net for you and uses retawq to display it [15:14] dunolie: what you mean no binary to read them? [15:15] dunolie: my man command works fine [15:15] man bash [15:15] bash: man: command not found [15:15] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:15] dunolie: did you install man from series ap/ ? [15:16] dunolie: one sec and i'll get you the links if you want [15:16] nyRednek: scroll up, we ve been through that already [15:16] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [15:16] sahko: my bad...*butts out now* [15:17] dunolie: gonna pm you [15:17] MrJacks0n (Mr@173-86-53-43.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] ron1n (~ron1n@70.44.172.13.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:18] wertik_home (~wertik@95-24-186-128.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:18] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-53-43.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:18] mc can display man pages fine btw. and its installed [15:19] oh but it probably needs groff [15:20] adrien: Meego being intel's own distro is irrelevent to the matter. It's not possible to stick to the open distribution model they want for Meego _and_ add the driver under its current license. Not to mention that Meego isn't really Intel's distribution. it's a joint effort beween Intel, Nokia, and some smaller players. [15:22] Nick change: MrJacks0n -> MrJackson [15:22] mako-sama: it *is* relevant because it means that intel is being bitten *very* strongly and they're going to do everything that's possible to make the driver open [15:23] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-188.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:23] plus it's probably going to discourage future things like that (getting a closed-source driver from a 3rd-party) [15:25] what is meego based on? [15:25] dos [15:26] j/k :) [15:26] nyRednek: linux, created from scratch [15:26] adrien: it isn't derived from a previous distro? [15:26] iirc intel had started something else last year (meego was announced a few months ago) [15:26] nyRednek: I don't think so [15:26] well, wikipedia should know [15:27] Roin (~florian@p5B2BDD5B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [15:28] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [15:28] "Its aim is to merge the efforts of Intel on Moblin and of Nokia on Maemo into one project.", doesn't seem like moblin is based on anythin [15:28] moblin and something else [15:28] right maemo [15:29] but it's not very surprising since it has very specific needs [15:29] intel+nokia [15:29] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-196.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:29] Roin (~florian@p5B2BDD5B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:30] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-31-185.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:30] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [15:30] ok, it was derived from debian-based and fedora-based distros, using yum as its tool [15:30] meaning it's a redhat descendant at heart [15:30] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Quit: FSF Free Software Foundation [15:31] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-awhrbvplevplicqp) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:31] the UI is very interesting imho [15:31] it is [15:34] yes [15:34] Entulho (~foo@189.72.127.118) joined ##slackware. [15:34] err nevermind, i was reading up ... totally unrelated [15:36] Aidar-Nagato (admin@77.79.172.155.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [15:36] figabo (~MacOSX@201.164.183.47) left irc: Quit: figabo has no reason [15:36] Roin (~florian@p5B2BDD5B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [15:37] as__ (as@111-240-217-226.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:49] what i've been told by people in the industry the cement job on the well head was bad and it could easily start leaking around the casing [15:50] yeah, the whole thing is just fubar. [15:50] they told me from the start the only thing thats gonna work is the relief well [15:51] if you mess up pkgtools some way [15:51] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [15:51] tar to / would be fine right? [15:51] define "mess up pkgtools" [15:51] well it's someone else [15:51] lol [15:51] they deleted a bunch of crap in /usr/share apparently [15:51] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:51] and now pkgtools and other programs aren't working [15:51] they are in #linux asking about it [15:52] why not just boot the install cd and reinstall [15:52] back when i still had hair on my head, i accidentially deleted /bin - that was fun to recover from. [15:52] Isis___ (~isis@186.18.225.130) joined ##slackware. [15:52] don't install diskset a on running system [15:52] Isis___: ^^ [15:53] finally made it to the correct channel i see. :) [15:53] tony_one (~tonys@212.183.140.0) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:53] hello stinky [15:53] hi [15:53] so you deleted /usr/share ? or what is the issue in entirety? [15:54] hello, I made a mistake , i accidentally delete "some" files under /usr/share, and several console programs like pkgtool and mc do not work anymore [15:54] thay complain about xterm is missing , which ive reinstalled with no results [15:55] what did you delete? [15:55] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:55] just randomly rm /usr/*?* ? [15:56] Perhaps /usr/share/terminfo [15:56] i dont know for sure, ive used the rm -rf in the wrong directory [15:56] Isis___: in what directory? [15:56] most of the files disappeared [15:57] why not just boot the install cd and reinstall [15:57] yeah. install again but do not format. [15:57] Isis___: if pkgtool does not work, I thik that upgradepkg will still work [15:57] and there are still some directories left, ive killed the rm as soon as i realized [15:57] can i upgrade a pkg to its own version? [15:57] upgradepkg --reinstall [15:57] i think ... [15:58] you think those will work with whats already borked/ [15:58] i was standing in the usr/share when i thought i was in another, in a hurry, i missed the attention [15:59] ill try the --reinstall [15:59] Isis___: do you have a Slackware package tree somewhere? DVD, or a directory? [15:59] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [15:59] to re-populate usr/share you need to go thru what alienBOB is about to suggest ;) [16:00] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-188.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:00] yeah i have the packages in the other partition [16:00] Good. [16:00] im running the upgrade --reinstall as suggested [16:00] Also good [16:00] What command are you using? [16:00] Exactly as you typed it? [16:01] uhm I have a question: could a restart of X or if X dies, cause Wifi through WICD to disconnect= [16:01] Sushiyant (~hamed@unaffiliated/sushiyant) joined ##slackware. [16:01] /mnt/d/slackware/slackware/ap# upgradepkg --reinstall *.txz [16:01] Roin: it should not disconnect [16:01] Isis___: OK [16:01] That is a start [16:01] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:02] And the better command will be : upgradepkg --reinstall *.t?z [16:02] cap87 (~fode-te@a85-139-225-51.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:02] i dunno what other packages sets stores in usr/share [16:02] THe '?' because Slackware has a few .tgz packages still [16:02] alienBOB: hm... running Slackware on this netbook for the whole day, but after X died when I switched to a TTY WICd kept disconnecting and connecting again and again [16:02] Isis___: the "l" series [16:02] Isis___: did you have a full install of slackware? [16:02] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:02] yeah i go for full! ;) [16:02] after a reboot everything is fine again [16:03] Roin: firmware issue [16:03] try rmmod the module, then insert it again. sometimes this helps. [16:03] hey guys, i'm going to try slackware out and i have a couple of questions :) [16:03] Isis___: if you run "grep usr/share /var/log/packages/*" you will find that almost all packages install something to /usr/share ... [16:04] cap87: excellent! [16:04] just ask cap87 [16:04] ill try that [16:04] jg71: but it is related to X dyiing isnt it? Since it works again after rebooting (of course that causes the module to be loaded again) [16:04] 1º - why it is so big? seems like other distros iso's are way smaller lol [16:04] Isis___: for the next command after this one ends, try (and it will take a while then)... [16:04] whoa, most of them [16:05] Roin: it shouldnt happen when X dies. try the module foo next time before you reboot. [16:05] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-29-203.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:05] i'm grabbing the latest x64 btw [16:05] Run this: cd /mnt/d/slackware/slackware/ ; upgradepkg --reinstall */*.t?z [16:05] Isis___: ^^^^ [16:05] jg71: uhm? That one I didnt understand [16:05] That will run through _all_ packages [16:05] mmmmk [16:05] yeah [16:06] cap87: the DVD ISO contains all sources as well. [16:06] Plus, Slackware is a full development/desktop/server distro, all in one [16:06] i've updated some libraries, i hope not to mess with them, but at least i will get my whole os running [16:06] ahh i see [16:07] looking foward to try it out [16:07] anyway [16:07] Roin: "remove and reload the module of your wifi card next time when X crashes and borks your wifi before you reboot" .. cant put it any clearer than that [16:07] 2º - i currently have ubuntu installed... and i wanted to wipe that partition and install slackware there... is there any problem in that? [16:07] like in grub or something [16:08] Roin: ... stating the obvious: if it works, dont reboot ;) [16:08] cap87: Slackware can wipe, repartition and reformat that drive [16:08] sorry, who's got the problem with the wifi and X ? [16:08] jg71: oh sorry, already understood that just didnt gt the try module foo phrase :x [16:08] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-196.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:08] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [16:08] cap87: Slackware _will_ install LILO as the bootloader [16:08] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] jg71: my english isnt that good sometimes, sorry [16:08] is it better than grub? [16:08] Roin: foo and bar are best friends ;) [16:08] Different [16:08] Lilo!!! [16:09] Roin: to not confuse you any further: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar (sorry if you already know) [16:10] emphasis on "demonstrating a concept" [16:10] lilo is now maintained by debian, so choose wisely :> [16:10] jg71: ok thank you very much ._. [16:11] thrice`: it could be worse... pinkbuntu [16:12] kylan (~kylan@c-66-41-172-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:12] thrice`: so lilo is becoming a debian or strictly maintained? [16:13] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:13] well, poorly worded; one of the debian guys picked up its maintanence (and just released 23.0 fwiw) [16:14] so i see, just like redhat guy is developing fglrx.. [16:14] another thing: i've already did some research but i want to know what you guys think: what is the main advantage of slackware over other distros? [16:15] i'm only familiar with debian and ubuntu so far :) [16:15] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:15] thrice`: is there a new project site up again for it? [16:15] It's lot of fun and control cap87 [16:15] thrice`: "no upstream for years" really is a PITA. folks pull awful arguments cos of that fact. it's always ugly, a lack of upstream. [16:15] there's no 'advantage', it's just about your preference [16:15] Roin, yep: https://alioth.debian.org/projects/lilo/ [16:16] cap87, IMHO, slackware lets you manage everything though scrips, you can configure as you like, u can use the console, and dont depend entirely from the GUI [16:16] thrice`: thank you [16:16] alioth, I recall that name from some other project... [16:16] heh [16:16] debian :> [16:16] shootout [16:17] untrusted certificate wow [16:17] it's a forge [16:17] for ex, if u liked to configure the network u have everything in the same script [16:17] Action: alienBOB needs to clean the cat litter [16:18] jesus, whoever invented tag clouds should be beaten to death with a pointy stick [16:18] that's exactly what i'm looking for... i'm too much used to GUI interfaces and i wanted to learn to control everything from the console. [16:18] putting it differently: alioth is a general-purpose project hosting using gforge, opened to everything and not dedicated to debian at all [16:19] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-63.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [16:19] and besides... i love configuring everything my way [16:19] cap87, yeah thats it, just variables, you can configure the way the services start, for example iØe set my mysql to log to a file all the queries from the localhost [16:19] no changelog for lilo or am I missing it? [16:19] then i just tail -f and done [16:20] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [16:20] services, and restarts, everything under /etc/rc.d [16:20] great :) [16:20] kylan (~kylan@c-66-41-172-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:21] it is easier to use a slackware than what most ppl say [16:21] if you are a fan of tail, you gotta love multitail ;) [16:21] multitail? [16:21] aha there is a changelog: https://alioth.debian.org/frs/shownotes.php?group_id=100507&release_id=1529 [16:21] http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=multitail [16:22] lets see... [16:22] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [16:22] multitail, or just use screen [16:22] screen is nifty too. [16:23] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [16:23] id be dead by now if it werent for screen. [16:23] Action: adrien whispers tmux [16:23] JonathanD (~JonathanD@freenode/staff/jonathand) left irc: Ping timeout: 600 seconds [16:23] tmux aint that stable yet ;) [16:23] i think even after I die i will still be alive from all my detached screen's [16:23] it is [16:23] jg71, downloaded and soon to be tested :) [16:23] hmm, i grabbed the slackware64-13.1-install-dvd.iso which is 4.1gb but it shows up as completed at 1,4gb Oo [16:23] admboom: you've read xkcd too much ;-) [16:23] AlexElliott_ (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:23] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:24] cap87, i guess you only need the first pkg [16:24] cap87: err, from where? how did you download? [16:24] http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/slackware/slackware64-13.1-iso/ [16:24] the rest are sources [16:24] there [16:24] cap87: thats a bit short. [16:24] adrien, evidently, i have some catching up! [16:24] ooh spaces in boot menu [16:25] cap87: http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/slackware/slackware-13.1-iso/ [16:25] AlexElliott (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:26] wow [16:26] slackware-13.1-install-dvd.iso [16:26] i onlyneed this right? [16:26] ah ok, you are from .pt so your mirror is way better for you i guess. [16:26] yeah [16:26] yes cap87 [16:26] but 1.4GB is definitely too small: might want to download again [16:26] be sure to get the -64 if you want to play the 64bit game. [16:27] admboom: actually, that's something I've also thought about, and also: are there people currently on IRC but dead... [16:27] WildWizard (~michael@2001:44b8:3071:7a6:3873:fae5:38bd:3ee7) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:27] yeah, i'm grabbing the x64 version. maybe it was a bug in my firefox or something, i'll try to download again [16:27] cap87: if firefox downloads it for you, make sure your /tmp has enough free space [16:27] adrien: sometimes i had the feeling xkcd is among IRC folks... [16:28] new lilo seems to be an improvement, at first glance [16:28] better stable than blinky [16:28] ahhh [16:28] cap87: better to use rsync in a terminal to download that ISO. With rsync at least you can resume aborted downloads [16:28] i looks nicer [16:28] you reminded me alienBOB [16:28] too [16:28] i'm out of disk space [16:28] damn [16:28] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [16:28] I also avoid big downloads with firefox because it "sometimes" crashes [16:29] i guess i'll have to delete some stuff [16:29] but as alienBOB said, rsync is even better [16:29] sahko: improvements for lilo? can you expand a bit on that? 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[16:31] eXgame (~eXgame@78-60-222-36.static.zebra.lt) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:32] adrien: the maintainer cleaned up and rearranged the source for the most part. the only features seem to be "Allow spaces in boot menu" and add a small-memory option [16:33] tekzilla (~jon@d086161.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:33] "Allow spaces in boot menu" is already a nice improvement in itself ;-) [16:34] and as far i can see he has no plans of changing much. mostly maintain it, not develop it adding eg. grub2's features [16:34] Action: adrien hopes for some more editing during boot [16:34] and that's actually the *only* thing I'm after [16:34] "if it works, do not touch it" [16:34] yeah, that why im saying its good [16:34] Spaces in lilo? Ridiculous. What do you think this is, the 21st century? [16:34] Action: alienBOB scans the channel for someone to boot [16:34] tekzilla (~jon@d099185.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [16:35] Action: nyRednek ducks [16:35] it's ok, I guess cpunches would be the first on the list :P [16:35] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432376.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:35] Action: dustybin does a poo in alienBOB cat litter bin [16:36] AlexElliott_ (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:37] BiCHiTo (Yposu4i2zw@unaffiliated/bichito) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:37] AlexElliott_ (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:37] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:38] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:39] would anyone have an asus eee pc 1001p, 1005pe or 1018pb ? [16:40] not me sorry [16:40] Roin: why not [16:41] Because I have a Samsung N150 :p [16:41] No, I only have the Eee 701. The newer ones do look nice though. 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[16:59] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:00] well, this has stopped upgrading, and i ll reboot and hope to be back afterwards [17:01] Isis___ (~isis@186.18.225.130) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:02] jeev: I use rsnapshot for nightly incremental backup [17:02] AlexElliott (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:03] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-103.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:03] AlexElliott (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:05] Elektro_ (~elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [17:05] jeev: i use some rsync cron jobs [17:06] simple yet serves my purpose [17:07] Divine (1000@neBu.ro) left irc: Disconnected by services [17:07] _Divine (1000@neBu.ro) joined ##slackware. [17:07] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:08] anyone has a good address in new-york to test netbooks? (physical store) [17:08] (especially these asus netbooks) [17:09] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7EB4C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:09] jnylin (~jnylin@c-7471e655.177-7-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:09] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:10] AlexElliott_ (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:10] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:11] AlexElliott (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:11] rsnapshot eh? [17:11] I wrote some about it in my wiki [17:11] yeah, the pirate version rrrrrrrrsnapshot [17:11] stinky, i've got rsync too but i'm looking more for like incremental, differences and changes [17:12] then rsnapshot is one likely candidate [17:13] i have messed with unison a bit [17:13] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:14] well, if you feel hardcore, you can even use git for that [17:14] yea i know [17:15] or i can set cron on their directadmin server to back it up [17:15] and just wget the file. :) [17:15] i just pulled up alienBOB's wiki, i'll read it in a bit. [17:16] adrien, you better not come to america. [17:16] AlexElliott__ (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:16] why, camaradetux not welcome, jeev ? [17:17] jeev: not me, a friend ;-) [17:17] last time he was here he got in trouble for lewd acts with a deer [17:17] did the deer survive? [17:17] AlexElliott_ (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:18] it is in therapy [17:18] he wrote a book [17:18] "The Most Common Deer Mnemonics"? [17:18] the deer wrote a book about his experience with Camerade_Tux...apparently, the deer liked it [17:19] cervanthropy [17:20] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [17:20] lokii (~bort@wrls207-224.wrls.harvard.edu) joined ##slackware. [17:20] slackerpete (~slackerpe@213.122.218.128) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:21] no, it was named "why not to visit america, thanks to one person" [17:21] kylan (~kylan@c-66-41-172-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:21] so that's why our economy has been dropping. [17:21] wait, that book didn't make sense. [17:22] jeev: that's a different book. the one written about camerade_tux was, "one hot night with a french socialist" [17:22] a french redneck [17:22] i welcome french socialists! [17:22] is there such a thing? [17:22] stinky: i'm not french [17:22] i'd bring all of france's socialists over if i could trade away sarah paliners [17:23] oh cherie tu me fais tres baguette! a man only must know that much french ;) [17:23] AlexElliott__ (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:23] AlexElliott__ (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:23] Well, wasn't it you who noted the fact that in all the world the two types of people it's considered "okay" to make fun of are the French and Rednecks? [17:23] jeev: yeah, if you hate the right wing that much, move to france and stop bitching [17:23] Action: jg71 apologizes to the french in here. but ... you know. [17:23] kylan (~kylan@c-66-41-172-179.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:23] stinky: eh...no [17:24] well.. someone did and it's true. haha [17:24] I'm famous without doing anything, it's great 8-) [17:24] Therefore.. The French Redneck.. [17:24] adrien: only to those who remember the camarade ;) [17:25] everyone does, right? :P (actually, the nick transition took longer than expected) [17:25] nyRednek, i dont hate the right. i hate the idiots. [17:25] logs help too. for those about to bother... [17:25] i could see france from los angeles!!!!!!! [17:26] jg71: heheh [17:26] jeev: yeah... [17:26] take a number, jeev ! i can see france from ... from ... the border to france! [17:27] jeev: and jews, polish, and anyone who happens to disagree with you [17:27] I would like to thank the French for curly fries. [17:27] nyRednek, the zionist jews. [17:27] they're the devils children, using jews as human shields. [17:27] jeev: point made [17:27] hm. fries. im hungry. [17:27] point taken. [17:27] me too.. [17:28] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [17:28] jeev: if you knew anything of judaism and zionism both, you'd know that zionism is a part of the jewish faith, for us to be returned to our homeland [17:29] jeev: here's a hint, you can't learn truth about either from al jazeera [17:29] AlexElliott__ (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:29] nyRednek, also can't learn the truth from fox news and other zionist media outlets. your land ? what a coincidence, you and the palestinians both have something in common, you want your land back. [17:29] AlexElliott__ (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:29] nyRednek, i know there's a BUTTLoad of jews who aren't zionists.. so dont spread lies [17:30] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.162.160) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:30] jeev: there are absolutely none who don't pray to be returned to zion(none who are remotely religious, anyways) [17:30] i'd rather not talk about it in here, israel cleared itself of flotilla OBVIOUSLY, in other news.. charles manson clears himself of his murders too [17:31] Wow, just found some hotdogs in the fridge that have the cheese and chili built in. [17:31] jeev: look, if someone assaults a soldier during a blockade operation, he should expect a hostile response [17:31] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [17:31] Political/religious fights over to ##slackware-offtopic please [17:31] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.161.66) joined ##slackware. [17:31] alienBOB: he isn't welcome there [17:32] I don't think jeev is banned [17:32] Well this discussion has no place _here_ [17:32] Entulho (~foo@189.72.127.118) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:32] raela, since he has the ultimate religion, he bars me from entering.. that's why he says i'm not welcome there.. because apparently we're all his servants [17:32] sef (sef@69.94.13.17) left ##slackware. [17:32] anyway, im done with this [17:32] Thanks ;-) [17:32] Entulho (~foo@187-4-215-249.fnsce704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:32] raela, no, jeev isn't [17:33] He was asked to leave at one point, but isn't banned. [17:33] jeev: and he has no access in the channel anyway [17:33] wow [17:33] but um yeah I don't want to draw anything out. just commenting. 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[19:46] alphad64 (~alphad64@41.66.5.69) joined ##slackware. [19:49] PRO-DRIVE (~ahmed@196.221.104.177) joined ##slackware. [19:52] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:53] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [19:55] hello :) , i am new to slackware and i am reading the slackbook here http://www.slackbook.org/html/network-configuration-wireless.html [19:55] kozandr (~kozandr@forum.zelcom.ru) joined ##slackware. [19:55] the writer didn't say where to find rc.wireless.conf [19:55] /etc/rc.d/ [19:56] sahko: thx :) [19:56] you might also wanna see http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network [19:57] veritos (~veritos@207.155.204.151.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [19:58] well i have other question , now i have a wireless network protected with WPA2-PSK [19:58] what argument should i pass with the key to log in ?? [19:59] see /usr/doc/wpa_supplicant-0.6.10/README.SLACKWARE [19:59] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [20:00] thanks Mr sahko :) [20:04] john_dee (~id@78-106-247-27.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:04] it might be more convinient to use wicd from extra/ on a laptop/netbook/mobile machine [20:04] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-63.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:05] synyster (~synyster@76-231-31-109.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:05] alphad64 (~alphad64@41.66.5.69) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:08] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:09] gezley (~gezley@86-42-211-7-dynamic.b-ras1.cld.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Quit: gezley [20:10] john_dee (~id@93-81-1-129.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [20:12] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.240.255) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:13] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.247.220) joined ##slackware. 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[21:43] gezley (~gezley@86-42-211-7-dynamic.b-ras1.cld.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:43] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [21:44] gezley (~gezley@86-42-211-7-dynamic.b-ras1.cld.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [21:45] i'll take a look. thanks. [21:45] sure thing : [21:45] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:45] * :( [21:45] gah [21:45] smiley - :) [21:47] bobertlo (~bobertlo@209.162.43.209) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:47] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-222.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:48] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-31.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [21:50] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-128-233.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [21:52] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488FAB9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:52] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: œ¿»Î½ »±²­ [22:53] Nick change: vldmr -> AbsTradELic [22:53] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*thingo@*unaffiliated/oobe' by nachox!~Ignacio@9-99-235-201.fibertel.com.ar [22:53] oobe kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned [22:54] it's idiots night tonight? [22:54] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [22:55] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:56] I guess one hint wasn't enough [22:58] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:59] are there any other slackware channels besides this one? [23:00] probably [23:00] ##slackware-offtopic if you want to chat and stuff [23:00] alis shows a bunch of language-specific ones [23:00] there is also another channel on another network (someone will have to remind me which though) [23:00] Buntfu (~M@c-174-55-68-85.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] oftc ? [23:01] yeah there's a slackware.br or -br [23:01] thank you very much, I was wondering if there was a social room [23:01] synyster, it gets pretty damned silly at times though but you're welcome [23:02] dive sounds like exactly my place =) and why do the slackware channels have 2 hash marks instead of one? [23:02] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [23:02] ## means it's not an official channel [23:02] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:03] so is there a #slackware? [23:03] although it's the closest at the moment [23:03] synyster: a redirect to here is what it is [23:03] I was wondering how I got here trhodes lol [23:03] :) [23:03] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.14.248.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:03] as__ (as@111-240-213-146.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:03] Well, before you were born, your mommy and daddy ... [23:04] uva (as@111-240-213-146.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [23:04] yeah, the restricted section in toys 'r us, they told me all about it [23:04] oh good [23:04] they said I could go in there when I turned 18, but I still can't find it [23:04] Action: synyster scratches head [23:04] they have a restricted toys r us section? I am so there!! [23:05] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:05] synyster (~synyster@76-231-31-109.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:05] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [23:05] hmm [23:06] synyster (~synyster@76-231-31-109.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:06] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-70-18-152-191.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:06] lori_ (~lori@c-66-56-10-90.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:07] I want to install slack onto my netbook, but I'm not sure whether it would be too advanced for me [23:07] how hard is slack to learn? [23:07] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [23:07] heya,folks [23:08] hey MLanden [23:08] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [23:08] synyster, best bet is to read the links in /topic [23:08] especially the slackbook [23:08] synyster: only as hard as you wish it to be...give it time like other distros and it might grow on you..;) [23:08] heya, shonudo [23:08] hi MLanden [23:09] heya, dive [23:09] learn as you go... open-ended; learn something new every day [23:09] yeah MLanden, I've heard a lot of good things about slack; I'm a fedora ambassador at the moment but I want something with a bit more of a learning curve for my netbook so I'm looking into slack after dismissing gentoo [23:10] and dive, I think the book is the only thing I haven't read on slack yet xD (doesn't mean I understand all of it thought) [23:10] woh3 (~will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] synyster: good to hear [23:10] synyster: what kind of netbook ? [23:11] acer aspire one trhodes; MLaden good that I'm looking into slack or that I dismissed gentoo? =P [23:11] synyster: ah ok [23:11] efto (~eft@pool-72-86-60-196.clppva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] efto (~eft@pool-72-86-60-196.clppva.east.verizon.net) left irc: [23:12] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:12] synyster: I just installed slackware 13.1 on a AO1 [23:12] synyster: on your interest on slackware...but expanding on your learning curve as well..;) [23:13] BP{k}: which wm/de are you using on it? [23:13] MLanden: I had a friend a few years ago who got me into open source and linux, and the only operating system he will touch is slack; I've wanted to try it for years but I took some time getting accustomed to a less intensive OS first to get my bearings [23:13] MLanden: I haven't actually gotten so far yet, mostly did a quick install without getting any further due to time constraints. probably will go with XFCE. [23:14] BP{k}: why xfce and not kde or gnome? [23:14] synyster: awesome...hope it's an enjoyable experience [23:14] synyster: Not gnome because slackware doesn't come with gnome (althoguh there is GSB), and KDE4 doesn't work well with how my mind works. [23:15] MLanden: thank you, I hope it is, too =) [23:15] synyster: MLanden: biggest problem I am going to have is to get a decent resolution on the intel GMA500. [23:15] seen some folks customizing the Asus netbooks with pekwm [23:15] BP{k}: I can't put my finger on it, but there's just something about kde I don't like and I'm hoping that slack might change that [23:16] slack won't... kde devs might [23:16] synyster: fluxbox is sexy as hell. use that [23:16] kde has a start button, like the other common inferior operating system [23:16] raela, agreed [23:16] flux IS sexy [23:16] synyster: I actually quite loved KDE 3.5, just KDE4 doesn't. I have come to prefer XFCE [23:17] yeah I love xfce [23:17] even though it has a start button woh3? [23:17] raela: what's so enticing about fluxbox? I've somehow never seen a screenshot of it [23:17] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:17] BP{k}: might have some luck with the newer kernel and updated xorg-1.8..cross fingers for advantage with the gma chips [23:17] yeah but i dont have to use it, it has menu anywhere option [23:17] rirombo (~rirombo@h165.58.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] hey rirombo [23:17] synyster: very customizable theme, no desktop icons, no cruft (very minimal) [23:18] then again, I could care less ;) The netbook isn't mine .. it's keth's .. my own laptop (a hp/compaq) will definately run XFCE :) [23:18] synyster: I'm a long-time Slacker, so putting it on the netbook was natural for me, but I really have not had to tweak anything ... it Just Works. [23:18] BP{k}: psst.. couldn't care less ;) otherwise, start caring less then, damnit! [23:18] raela: make me :P [23:18] the binary clock setting with one on xfce's clocks is an uber-geek-nice feature..;) [23:18] raela: but you are ... correct. :) [23:18] Action: raela flicks kernels of corn at BP{k} [23:19] s/on/of [23:19] BP{k}: yeah, for once, right? heh [23:19] I run XFCE on it. Really only tweak was to put the bar on the side rather than bottom, and set it to autohide. [23:19] rob0: what graphics chipset has your netbook? [23:20] rob0: mess with the wmdock plugin? [23:20] nachox (~Ignacio@9-99-235-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:20] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:21] mine has a 945GME [23:21] would I be able to get rid of environments and install new ones easily? I've never attempted that before [23:21] BP{k}, it's Intel, the same one that some folks have had blackscreening. [23:21] synyster, there ya go: one screenshot - http://www.dawoodfall.net/sshots/5883260786.gif [23:21] as in, try out flux, xfce, and kde to see which I like better? [23:21] I like mono by the way ;) [23:21] synyster: er no need to get rid of really. no harm in leaving them unless you're limited on space [23:21] synyster: and some wms are easier to install/remove than others.. trying gnome might be a bit of a struggle, but smaller ones Ibelieve are single packages [23:22] synyster: just leave them there... not worth the bother [23:22] VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller [23:22] dive that's a really nice looking desktop (flux?) [23:22] if you've installed them, and there is no space issue, just leave it [23:22] synyster, yeah flux [23:23] shonudo raela: is there a way to set up slack so that I can choose my environ when I sign in? [23:23] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:23] xwmconfig will choose window managers [23:23] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.223.55) joined ##slackware. [23:23] synyster: yep, init 4 [23:23] synyster: with kdm [23:23] you mean like switch between each time? [23:23] synyster: it'll boot into kdm or xdm (if you choose) [23:24] synyster: this is my flux setup on one laptop http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3623/ssjuly.png [23:24] I mean that fedora and ubuntu do things like session login options when you choose which user to login with and the options include the desktop environments; I'm wondering if I could set that up in slack to choose between xfce, kde, flux, et cetera when I log into my user account [23:25] synyster: yes, init 4 and *dm does that [23:26] raela: I love your desktop, too! and that sounds great, I want to try all of them at one point or another but I think I'm done distrohopping for a while [23:26] woh3 (will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [23:26] well kdm does let you choose which de/wm to load, xdm doesn't iirc [23:26] dive: oh, it doesn't? hrm [23:26] I only used xdm for a few seconds until I saw how ugly it was [23:27] raela, I customised mine a lot once [23:27] dive: with colors? [23:27] Wonder is I still got it set up [23:27] yes colours :P [23:27] !!! [23:27] orange mainly [23:28] I didn't know xapps were customizable [23:28] it's ok but it doesn't really startup much faster than kdm [23:28] xdm is, a lot [23:28] change font size/colour, box positions/size etc [23:28] background image [23:28] one sec [23:28] I think I'm going to take frankie off of init 4 though [23:29] fully accessable via ssh, no lag, etc.. actual box is unresponsive to keyboard/mouse [23:30] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [23:30] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [23:30] Is there a guide for cutting up the DVD into disk 1,2 & 3 install CDs? [23:30] raela, dive: are you guys exclusively flux? [23:31] rirombo (~rirombo@h165.58.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:31] shonudo: I am, yes. been so for several years [23:31] I'm assuming slackware runs well on your netbook, rob0, in terms of speed and responsiveness? [23:31] i learned flux on DLS -- loved it [23:31] DSL* [23:32] rirombo (~rirombo@h165.58.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [23:32] hey rirombo [23:33] woh3 (~will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [23:33] usr13: isolinux/README_SPLIT.TXT [23:34] no exactly that, but close [23:34] woh3 (~will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:34] isolinux/README.TXT too [23:34] woh3 (~will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [23:35] synyster: it "feels" faster and more responsive than the Xandros it came with and than Ubuntu Karmic. Of course it being just a netbook I don't do anything challenging on it. [23:36] lol...xandros..1st time i heard of that..was thinking of linspire [23:36] rob0: I completely understand what you're saying; I can't do much on my netbook but I can definitely tell a difference between fedora 13 that I'm using now and mint linux, ubuntu, debian, opensuse, et cetera [23:36] BP{k}: hey, there you are! :P ping (pm ok?) [23:37] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:37] sahko: No, that's it exactly, isolinux/README_SPLIT.TXT [23:37] tbx [23:37] tnx [23:37] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [23:37] Hi. Does anyone here program? [23:37] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) joined ##slackware. [23:38] riza: what language? [23:38] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.14.248.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:38] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:39] Any really. I ask because I have a few programs that I want to release but on the other hand, I'm just afraid people won't give me the credit I deserve. [23:39] And I'm suffering anxiety because of it. [23:39] what kind of programs? if you're looking for programmers then I assume you haven't actually written them yet..? [23:40] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:40] slackmagic: pong and sure .. go ahead. [23:41] sahko: Well, no, that may not be it after all. [23:41] o.O I just told ya I have a few programs. I wrote them. [23:41] usr13: isolinux/README.TXT [23:41] riza: we dont care. ask in some programming channel [23:42] riza: uhhh if you're doing it for amassing credit, you're probably doing it wrong [23:42] adaptr (~adaptr@xs.adaptr.nl) joined ##slackware. [23:42] sahko: I agree, riza should go find programmers, but I'm still confused as to why he needs programmers in the first place [23:42] Nick change: Guest98480 -> RaNdY [23:42] Sigh, synyster you can't read. [23:43] Night. [23:43] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [23:43] Nick change: RaNdY -> Guest88062 [23:43] synyster: warm fuzzies, i think [23:43] dont bother. hes does that from time to time. come here, ask some dumb question and leave [23:43] what a jerk [23:44] thought he was she [23:44] noted [23:44] =) [23:45] riza is a bit too.. I don't know [23:45] overly eager [23:45] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:45] Nick change: bunnyboi -> jennifur [23:45] I really don't understand what she was talking about though... she has programs written, so she needs programmers to release programs (online, I assume?) so that she gets credit [23:45] that doesn't make any sense [23:46] riza wanted programmers to talk to in order to get a warm fuzzy feeling to offset the anxiety [23:46] synyster: welcome to irc...sometimes the laws of rationality may not apply [23:47] heh [23:47] haha [23:47] I <3 irc [23:48] synyster: I think riza is somewhere in undergrad, not close to graduating.. and is already going nuts about grad school, making a difference, etc [23:48] tried to start a company giving tech support or something [23:48] and wants to do their thesis on slackware.. somehow. [23:49] I'm an undergrad myself, considering switching to comp science from English (if you're going to laugh, laugh now because I won't take kindly to it later =P ) [23:52] raela, http://www.dawoodfall.net/sshots/dump.png there ya go [23:52] hey, I was equine (horse) science for one of my majors, and my phd is in animal science ;) [23:52] well working on phd [23:53] at least you can do something with that xD haha [23:53] dive: cool login screen [23:53] am0rphis (~qwe@91.145.202.214) left irc: Quit: am0rphis [23:54] just to show that xdm can look good, but it takes some reading and playing with [23:54] but I use kdm now for de/wm choice mainly [23:54] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.14.248.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:54] dive: damn, taking forever to load :P [23:54] that is so cool dive [23:55] looks nice :D [23:55] I should probably have made it a gif raela [23:55] ohh that is neat! [23:56] not sure i'd call it good looking. it's the same xdm, just a different background and color scheme [23:56] yeah [23:56] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.14.248.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:57] kdm is nicer [23:59] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [23:59] what does kdm look like? [23:59] dive: nice looking, have you looked into using slim (SBo)for the login? they got some decent looking themes too [00:00] --- Fri Jul 16 2010