[00:00] powtrix: Yes. you can set up a daemon with rtorrent. [00:00] I do it [00:00] root starts rtorrent in screen, under a specified user [00:01] it doesn't have a web ui right? [00:01] it does, you have to compile rtorrent with xmlrpc support, though [00:02] i dont use it with webui, though [00:04] tuvok302Lappy (tuvok302@clgrtnt5-port-244.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:04] will try [00:05] http://www.wtorrent-project.org/trac/ [00:07] nod, good choice [00:07] that's the one I was going to install, after looking at a couple of options [00:07] I didnt follow through, because my GuruPlug server hasn't arrived yet [00:08] man, that thing takes like months to ship... [00:08] >_< [00:08] SOUL_OF_R00T (~leo@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [00:08] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.56.47.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:10] banditman (~djt@92.14.52.241) joined ##slackware. [00:14] banditman (~djt@92.14.52.241) left irc: Client Quit [00:14] speakin' 'bout the guruplug,see that slackware arm 13.1 was released recently [00:15] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-134.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:15] that guruplug looks amazing. [00:16] It never ships!!! [00:16] Three exclamation marks [00:16] i even made a script to check the shipping status [00:16] never ships? they rip you off? [00:16] haha.. [00:16] No, it just has the same status [00:16] "Not Yet Shipped" [00:16] constantly... [00:16] --with-xmlrpc-c=PATH <--- ? [00:17] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-29-34.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:17] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [00:17] They are currently mining the copper for the circuit board traces. [00:17] did you receive one? [00:17] lol [00:17] i havent [00:17] received one =( [00:17] pwnd [00:17] I've been waiting for 2 months.. [00:17] Hey, it takes time to make one from scratch [00:17] I took the risk despite all the forum people saying it takes like 3 months or four months [00:17] you're payment is being used for the first production run bahahah [00:17] your [00:17] seriously. [00:18] that thing is perfect for a very lucrative idea I have [00:18] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) left irc: Quit: ‚» [00:18] "Secret Life of Kittens"? [00:18] I ahd the same idea! [00:20] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mNB_VG_shc [00:21] oleg (1000@pool-94.24.204-200.is74.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:21] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:21] Does anyone know if I can compile javadocs using the gcc-java package? [00:21] I need five snorkels, two bananas, one roll of white joint tape, three cans of yellow corn and ten guruplug server pluses [00:22] oleg (1000@pool-94.24.204-200.is74.ru) left irc: Client Quit [00:23] antiwire, give ya 10 sparklers so ya can get 1st place for the 4th of July parade..:D [00:23] lol [00:24] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [00:26] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. 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[01:28] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-236.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:31] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-134.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:31] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [01:32] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:38] would there be a way to rig up one box to log and monitor many different wifi networks at the same time? [01:38] kismet [01:39] dartmouth, yes and no. you can rig one box to do scans and show local wifi networks in range, but trying to log data from different wifi stations at the same time with one card means you're going to miss packets [01:39] yep, you're limited by hardware (it can't listen to all channels at once) [01:40] if you have multiple wifi cards, you can have each card monitor a specific channel/ap and monitor that way, but it's not easy when you have only one card [01:40] I use kismet with multiple wifi cards for doing site surveys [01:40] Azeotrope (1000@193.239.140.184) joined ##slackware. [01:40] Azeotrope (1000@193.239.140.184) left irc: Changing host [01:40] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [01:40] and a gps sometimes too [01:40] well what im talking about would be used for surveilance, like a police scanner [01:41] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:41] where the presence of a network would be unknown priorto [01:41] if you just want it to be like a police scanner you just need one card. kismet hops channels by default. [01:41] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:41] antiwire, yeah but if there are 3 new networks plugged in one night you'd have to add 3 new cards to log them right? [01:42] to log individual ap/channels, yes. you need a separate card for each network [01:42] to fully log the traffic yes. to just detect them and log them as the card hops to the channel they are on, no [01:42] what about virtual nics? [01:43] so far, no. [01:43] I'm speaking from the kernel's ath5k/ath9k drivers and hostapd [01:43] hrm it just seemed to possible for a minute [01:43] antiwire: how to enable exec? [01:44] i was thinking the drivers were where it was at too antiwire, like maybe someone could hack up a simple driver to do that [01:44] wrong channel [01:44] dartmouth: it depends on the chipset and the drivers [01:44] any ideas on where to start looking into that? [01:44] If you want to fully log multiple channels you should just use multiple radios [01:45] i mean hardware-wise, sure i could just slap in a new nic anytime, great, but if i could build a box and hire a guy to write the drivers it would pay for itself [01:45] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [01:45] ... [01:46] how many radio would you need, tops? 12 ? [01:46] Action: dartmouth sees what channel he is asking in and laughs [01:46] dartmouth, again - wifi is not like wired connected to a hub - you can only listen and log one channel at a time [01:46] This is the junction where physics and 'what if' meet [01:46] trhodes, as many as 50 per machine node [01:46] there's that many channels ? [01:47] trhodes, in some areas, probably [01:47] trhodes, depends on the country code you use - plus are you talking 2.6G or 5.0G network frequencies [01:47] oh wow. [01:47] hmm [01:47] oh, he's asking channels, i was talking networks [01:47] im not sure, the full range trhodes [01:47] go a head and fire up an ABG card and tell me how many APs you find on 5Ghz these days. [01:47] seriously. go do it [01:48] antiwire, true - but 5G is starting to pick up due to wireless and other devices hogging the 2G frequencies [01:48] maybe 1, maybe 2% if that [01:49] wireless phones, that is [01:50] dartmouth: the 'omgz moar channels r bettar ' isn't valid. If you're scheming up some google copycat crap you want the right hardware for the job [01:50] well so what would be involved in, hardware, building one set of machines that communicated with each other that could pick up and log 'everything'? all potential networks, all potential channels, simultaneously? [01:50] haha beat me to it [01:50] ... [01:51] isw_ (~i@c-67-181-224-97.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:52] the idea being that these 'sets' could be given a radius and then placed at given distances [01:52] sbs` (~mfd@CPE001ee57a9930-CM001a6683085e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [01:52] To do it right you don't use normal network cards. Since Google isn't exactly strapped for cash, they probably used spectrum analyzers [01:52] because so far, i see '16 wireless PCI cards" [01:53] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-99.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:53] with fragged drivers [01:53] actually, it can be done on one card, but the card must have multiple radio chips and share the antenna in order to provide mutli-channel real-time monitoring [01:54] alisonken1home, does that even exist? lol [01:54] it would be easier to just use multiple cards [01:54] do the atheros chips that do channel bonding support that ? [01:54] not publicly commercial type, but yes, they exist [01:54] one for each channel antiwire ? [01:55] I don't see the point in dumping loads of effort into making your own hackish software abomination when kismet will take the feed from remote drones and local cards all day long and is designed to do it already [01:55] antiwire, because i can't put kismet on a box, sell it like a new idea, and then donate a chunk of the proceeds to our favorite linux distro :P [01:55] trhodes, it's been a few years, but channel bonding is the same as nic bonding - multiple cards that use the same driver will connect to multiple radios, and the packets get reassembled in the driver [01:55] new idea? [01:56] you think that anything you think of in the wifi world could possible be new? [01:56] antiwire, everything sold is a new idea. [01:56] good luck with that [01:56] dartmouth, not quite :) [01:56] the difference is "new idea" v. "new commercial product" [01:57] alisonken1home, anything that is 'sold' that isn't a new idea banks on the novelty of not being a new idea, which falls back on the 'new idea' principle of sales. its the compromise thats the factor. [01:57] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-236.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:57] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [01:57] in any case, i'd bet the local pd's in medium sized cities would love something like that [01:57] sorry - "repackaged" is still not "new" [01:58] or "new idea" [01:58] alisonken1home, and the 'ipad' was new and innovative. [01:58] I don't know how much time you've spent in government contract facilities but the technology and product exists already. [01:58] no it wasn't. it was a touchpad and an iphone 'repackaged' as a new idea. [01:58] the ipad took the itouch and made it bigger [01:59] the iphone repackaged a cell phone with a touch-screen rather than push buttons [01:59] but it 'sold' on the new idea principle [01:59] the only thing that might even be considered "new" is taking a touch-screen that's been out for decades and married it to a cell phone [02:00] that would be "novel" not "new" [02:00] btw, what stops the local podunk law enforcement from popping a 30 dollar card into their cruisers toughbook and rocking kismet? [02:00] ViN86 (~ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-SEVEN-FIFTY-NINE.MIT.EDU) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:01] it would be just as effective [02:01] legal issues only - not physical issues [02:01] because they're law enforcement, they have more hoops to go through to make it "legal" [02:01] or at least, if they want to use the results in a court of law [02:02] M point is, why pay dartmouth here thousands of dollars for some crappy magic box when they already spent thousands on toughbooks that live in the cars already [02:02] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:07] TClayton (~tony@nc-76-3-102-108.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:08] busting out some custom deal is different. There are massive break in barriers in industries like that. Take the security DVR industry. Loads the the same boxes just with different branding or VAR packages [02:10] but doing very specialized, one unit type of deals can be very good money [02:10] sbs` (~mfd@CPE001ee57a9930-CM001a6683085e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:13] slackytude|foo (~slacky@f052033032.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:15] true [02:15] tuvok302Lappy (tuvok302@clgrtnt5-port-244.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [02:15] Cityscape (~adam@216.57.178.39) joined ##slackware. [02:15] Help Linux users get itunes. You can sign the petition here: http://www.petitiononline.com/itmslin/petition.html [02:16] Yandertal (~Yandertal@unaffiliated/yandertal) joined ##slackware. [02:16] pass..use deadbeef and mocp [02:16] Cityscape, why would I use itunes? I have better alternatives windows/mac users don't have :P [02:17] If you use a better alternative and then try syncing a file with iTunes it'll erase all your music. [02:18] itunes will help a lot of people switch to linux. [02:18] And who say we would want *that* to happen. [02:18] why would I sync a file with itunes, given that itunes is plagued by DRM atrocities like deleting my music involuntarily? [02:19] TClayton (~tony@184.1.65.8) joined ##slackware. [02:19] in fact wouldn't I want to boycott all apple products, as a responsible consumer, until they remember to create their products for users and not vendors again? [02:20] have you used, banshee [02:20] cityscape: i bet you use KDE also ?? [02:21] Nick change: oobe -> {nick}server [02:21] Cityscape: just out of curiosity, what distro do you run? [02:21] buzzin, I use kde - but I don't want iTunes :) [02:21] {nick}server (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Disconnected by services [02:21] i have to say the I-Phone 4 looks pretty sweet [02:21] Cityscape, though if they made a linux version maybe we'd make better headway on easy hacks to strip the DRM technology out of other apple products.... [02:22] well, i gave up on KDE after 3.0 butt that's just me [02:22] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [02:23] don't really care for useing, gnome also [02:23] Action: dartmouth is stuck on xfce but likes to install kde and gnome anyway [02:23] so many things going on in the background you don't need etc [02:24] I notice Cityscape has gone silent :) [02:24] i prefer either xfce or fluxbox [02:24] openbox is nice also [02:24] havent used blackbox [02:24] lol [02:26] hmmm, why can't i scroll up in irssi ? [02:26] weird [02:26] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [02:27] wahooooo (~wahooooo@c-67-170-35-27.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [02:27] hey guys [02:27] buzzin: GNOME on one PC, LXDE on the other. I don't like KDE much. [02:28] wahooooo (~wahooooo@c-67-170-35-27.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:28] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Quit: Necrosporus [02:28] I have an iptables firewall I'm playing with and I don't see any options to change where it logs to and it's logging in /var/log/syslog and I was looking at /etc/syslog.conf and want to know how can I change firewall logging to have it log to it's own log in syslog.conf? [02:29] BP{k}: Several, i love testing distros. my main PC has Ubuntu, my other has Lubuntu and Fedora. Im going to be install BSD and DSL on a third PC this week. [02:29] Nick change: oobe -> fartybumpoo [02:29] Xgates: have a look at ulogd ( http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/system/ulogd/ ) [02:29] man iptables [02:29] debianuser (~debian@broadband-77-37-196-61.nationalcablenetworks.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:32] buzzin: my favorite DE may be LXDE, it is very nice. But GNOME is also decent, so i'd call it a tie between those two. [02:32] Nick change: fartybumpoo -> ooeb [02:32] ok, well I thought all I had to do was make my own line in /etc/syslog.conf and it would log else where... [02:32] Nick change: ooeb -> oobe [02:32] dartmouth: I still think iTunes would be worthwhile for Linux. But yes DRM is very bad. [02:33] good night [02:33] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.102.234.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [02:33] Nick change: oobe -> ErroneousNick [02:33] Nick change: ErroneousNick -> oobe [02:34] Nick change: oobe -> fasdfwafdwdfawrw [02:34] Nick change: fasdfwafdwdfawrw -> oobe [02:35] See I thought according to the man that 'auth' is the same as security and this would work: ---- #Firewall related logs: [02:36] auth*. --/var/log/firewall [02:36] Cityscape (~adam@216.57.178.39) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:37] Since the firewall is logging to /var/log/syslog what facility keyword is it using in /etc/syslog.conf? [02:37] what a fooL !!!!! [02:39] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.102.234.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:40] Xgates: the problem is that other things logging with auth facility will also go there. Revert your changes and use ulogd. [02:40] actually my bad I see it's using *.warn;\ [02:40] There's simply not a good way to do what you want with only syslog. [02:41] ok [02:43] Nick change: oobe -> ` [02:44] Nick change: ` -> oobe [02:44] Nick change: oobe -> ` [02:44] Nick change: ` -> oobe [02:44] Nick change: oobe -> ` [02:44] NICK flood from @insidiousramblings.com! Banning. [02:44] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@insidiousramblings.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [02:45] ` kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: nick flood [02:46] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [02:47] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:47] TVRGriff500 (~ciaranowe@92.11.28.254) joined ##slackware. [02:47] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [02:48] is this the official slackware channel? [02:48] Yes [02:48] (unofficially) [02:48] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-158.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:49] TVRGriff500, it's the official unofficial support channel [02:49] lul [02:49] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:49] Gonna download the latest version [02:49] Latest version i have is 12 lol [02:50] just make sure you use the right one - 13.1 for 32-bit or 64-13.1 for 64-bit [02:50] yeah i know :P [02:50] Im a sysadmin :p [02:50] we get a lot of people that have a hard time with things like that her :) [02:50] here [02:51] o_O [02:51] I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night. Does that count? [02:51] (okay, I really didn't) [02:51] Im 13 and i havent had trouble with 32/64bit understanding [02:51] well, I was at La Quinta Inn last weekend :) [02:51] I was in my bed last night :p [02:51] like I said - you'd be surprised at the questions we get here :) [02:52] meh [02:52] Maybe i should stick around more often [02:52] #include [02:52] so in /etc/ulogd.conf if I want to log to a different file then all I have to change is? [02:52] heh [02:52] ---> logfile="/var/log/ulogd.log" ? [02:52] ---> logfile="/var/log/firewall.log" ? [02:52] Xgates: that's where the ulog daemon itself logs. You need to change the one for SYSEMU or some such [02:53] ahhh [02:53] Action: Xgates looks again [02:53] [LOGEMU] [02:53] file="/var/log/firewall" [02:54] Im guessing to compile source on a 64-bit platform you use a 64-bit compiler [02:55] well, that would be a given unless you're setup for cross-compile [02:55] pipes (pipes@fsf/member/pipes) left ##slackware. [02:55] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [02:55] rworkman: do I leave in the 'sync=1'? [02:55] [LOGEMU] [02:55] file="/var/log/firewall" [02:55] 'sync=1' [02:56] sure [02:56] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:56] ok thanks [02:56] np [02:56] good morning folks [02:56] morning mancha [02:56] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [02:56] hi [02:57] 3hrs to download 4GB [02:57] :D [02:58] mornin mancha [02:58] bbl guys [02:58] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Pong Time Out ( 0 Seconds ) [02:59] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:00] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [03:01] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [03:03] r0ger (~sixx@212.183.140.60) joined ##slackware. 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[03:13] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [03:13] back again.... [03:14] sadman_ (~sadman@en-pc243.htwg-konstanz.de) joined ##slackware. [03:14] well I thought when I reboot ulogd was going to start since there is /etc/rc.d/rc.ulogd but at boot I didn't see it saying it was starting and I looked at the rc.ulogd file and noticed an 'echo' line which states it's starting [03:14] I also have ulog in the kernel as a mod [03:15] it's executable: [03:15] root@slackware:/etc/rc.d# ls -l rc.ulogd [03:15] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 590 Jun 13 20:43 rc.ulogd [03:16] someone should develop an app that can tell system stats on the fly [03:16] making it +x doesn't make it run at boot automatically [03:16] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:17] ahhh I though rc.files that are executable boot automatically [03:17] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [03:17] nope, just those that are explicitely tested in rc.M [03:18] ahhh I always thought they did hehe.... [03:18] Xgates, only the ones marked as executable [03:19] and if they're listed in rc.M or rc.local [03:20] so should I just add it into rc.M as? [03:20] # Start ulogd [03:20] if [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.ulogd ]; then [03:20] Channel flood from Xgates -- kicking [03:20] . /etc/rc.d/rc.ulogd [03:20] fi [03:20] Xgates kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [03:20] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [03:20] LOL [03:21] .. [03:21] you could but rather than fuck with rc.M i'd add that exact code to rc.local [03:21] mancha: ok thanks [03:22] yeah been a LONG time since I've dove into the finer workings of Slack, forgotten a bit over the years, but I see now :) [03:22] thanks again guys [03:23] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Pong Time Out ( 0 Seconds ) [03:24] Gorodish (~flautar@cpe-66-8-175-100.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:26] Gorodish (~flautar@cpe-66-8-175-100.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:30] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-158.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:32] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-207-68-63-122.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:35] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [03:36] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [03:36] hey guys back ulogd isn't running/working... :( [03:37] I get this in the /var/log/ulogd.log: Sun Jun 13 21:14:12 2010 <5> ulogd.c:594 sigterm received, exiting [03:37] In rc.local I just did this, will this work to start it? ---> /etc/rc.d/rc.ulogd start [03:39] top isn't showing it but in ps aux it is: [03:39] root 1286 0.0 0.0 1984 228 ? Ss 21:28 0:00 /usr/sbin/ulogd -d [03:40] well I don't get it, I tried an online scanner and it's still logging to /var/log/syslog [03:40] GHag (~chatzilla@CPE-58-169-218-88.lns3.fli.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:40] Anyone know any good slackware .chm readers? [03:41] arcfide (~arcfide@adsl-99-75-51-152.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:41] My understanding I just need ulog in the kernel and I have it: CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_ULOG=m [03:41] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [03:41] well besides netfilter some stuff, not sure which but I have a bit.... [03:42] Xgates: um, you didn't change the LOG targets to ULOG, did you? :) [03:42] (in rc.firewall or equiv) [03:43] log targets? [03:43] mancha: said to change [LOGEMU] [03:44] is that what ya mean> [03:44] this is all I changed: [03:44] In your firewall script, your'e logging with "-j LOG" [03:44] gh0st_ (~gh0st@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:44] You need to be logging with "-j ULOG" now. [03:44] ahhh [03:44] ok ic my bad hehe [03:44] Action: Xgates looks [03:48] solar_sea (~solar@85.14.14.82) joined ##slackware. [03:48] mannynix (~mannynix@201.132.137.13) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:49] mancha: said to change [LOGEMU] ?? [03:50] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:50] mancha: sorry you or rworkman I forgot hehe [03:51] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [03:53] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:54] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:55] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-423613.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:55] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:55] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:56] pilipo (~pilipo@203.177.147.86) joined ##slackware. [03:59] nope don't see any -j log anywhere [04:00] hmm how the heck was this done.... [04:00] Action: Xgates looks more [04:00] GHag (chatzilla@CPE-58-169-218-88.lns3.fli.bigpond.net.au) left ##slackware. [04:01] hi pipol [04:02] if there wasn't a -j LOG target then there was no logging [04:03] yeah sure it's here somewhere or something to the same effect because it's logging to syslog [04:03] maybe it isn't an iptables rule that's logging [04:04] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [04:04] anyways, it's a 2 second check, open the text file with the rulessets and grep for "LOG" [04:04] Morn# [04:05] hehe [04:05] this firewall has quite a few files [04:05] spread about [04:05] I think I found it [04:05] Sexxx (Jack-@91.139.188.197) joined ##slackware. [04:06] ----> http://pastebin.com/vDauLSMQ [04:06] I hope this is the only place they made it... [04:06] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [04:06] the more lines in your rule-sets the worse the firewall is ;) [04:07] cause you won't be able to figure it out :-) [04:08] well it's ufw it's what @COUGH@ Ubuntu uses so I thought I'd give it a try because it's suppose to a simple firewall [04:08] to be a simple.... [04:08] LOL [04:09] *facepalm* [04:11] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D7B7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:12] when seeking a sleek, simple, yet effective firewall, i wouldn't discount an ubuntu product immediately. but, being ubuntu would also not be a seal of approval :) [04:13] yeah sure the only reason I grabbed it, it's the only iptables firewall I know that's simple and actively being developed.... [04:13] how about using iptables ? [04:13] well at the level tht Ubuntu is [04:14] well this is an iptables firewall [04:14] I'm just not one for wanting to make my own, never have been into that sort of thing [04:14] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:15] I figure if Ubuntu is going to put this in their distro and it's a script firewall can run at bootup, in rc.local you just run it as: --- /lib/ufw/ufw-init start [04:15] basic iptables management is ridiculously easy. The problem is that iptables allows you to do some extremely complex things and it confuses beginners. [04:16] yeah I see that there are the basics that look easy, but for me it's just something I'd rather leave alone [04:16] Xgates, it is probably not a bad firewall (ubuntu's) [04:16] yeah I would think it's ok [04:17] nothing as good as i could come up with, but that's ok [04:17] I made a slackbuild for it if you want it, it's just python so it was cake to make [04:17] [04:17] lol [04:17] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:17] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/network/ufw/ [04:17] debianuser (~debian@broadband-77-37-196-61.nationalcablenetworks.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:18] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [04:19] debianuser (~debian@broadband-77-37-196-61.nationalcablenetworks.ru) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [04:19] Here's the slackbuild: http://pastebin.com/VqhsmWRz [04:19] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [04:19] ufw: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/ufw [04:19] why not use one from slackbuilds.org? [04:20] ufw_0.30pre1.orig.tar.gz is the latest stable being used in Lucid [04:20] yeah I'd like to see what you think mancha [04:20] slava_dp: well ufw is a ubuntu app, actually I tweaked that slackbuild from slackbuild.org to work for it :) [04:21] Action: slava_dp wonders why people write slackbuild.org instead of slackbuilds.org all the time. [04:21] because theyre lazy [04:21] which irritates me too [04:21] their 's' key is stuck? [04:22] only allows one S per word? [04:22] LOL [04:22] but im more irritated by people who cant take a second out of their day to spell people's names right. Getting someone's name right is a matter of respect. You dan't do it and you're not showing any. [04:23] Action: Xgates Slackbuild from Slackbuilds.org :) [04:23] hey I'm tired :) [04:23] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.4) joined ##slackware. [04:23] Xgates.SlackBuild <-- let's rebuild Xgates with proper 's' support =) [04:33] well this thing is sucking at the moment, if I change the -j LOG to -j ULOG it won't start [04:33] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.178.77.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:33] errrrrr [04:33] and the file is called user.rules, sounds like something you can mess with if you want, if you ask me by that name [04:33] maybe.... [04:36] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.119) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:36] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.178.77.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:36] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.178.77.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:37] Coke (~coke@c-b3bee055.1212-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [04:42] do you know how hard will it be to package sugar for slackware? (as in OLPC) [04:43] There's not much info on the net. I fear that it requires gnome, or, at least, some of it. [04:44] slava_dp: isnt it it's own de? [04:45] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@insidiousramblings.com expired. [04:45] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@insidiousramblings.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [04:45] it uses gconf and some other stuff. The OLPC is fedora-based, and fedora includes all that [04:45] Action: slava_dp is thinking to try and build it [04:45] uses gconf??? [04:46] that's bad [04:46] google chrome uses gconf as well [04:46] I'm looking at the sources [04:46] And google is shit [04:46] heh [04:46] They have an even worse phone OS than Apple and Apple sucks balls [04:46] but anyway, im looking at the sources, no INSTALL or README i can find [04:47] I'm not sure how to browse the GIT repos as a tree [04:48] Ah "source tree" [04:49] slava_dp: no depds on gnome or gconf in their "building" manual [04:49] well that's reassuring [04:49] no [04:50] the docs are crap [04:50] why is everything so shitty? :) [04:50] I'm rather sure they have a dep on later versions of gnome [04:50] talso (~talso@S01060005692ce3b5.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [04:50] They just forgot to mention it in the prereq section [04:50] cause they base on fedora [04:50] If it's just gnome deps leading up to gnome-keyring, that's not so bad. [04:50] talso (~talso@S01060005692ce3b5.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [04:50] Dont' get me wrong - GConf is shit and needs to be buried, but still. [04:51] "Other distros which have a recent-enough release (e.g. including the latest stable GNOME release) can be supported if someone is willing to maintain the dependencies for that distro release" [04:51] slava_dp: how can you "base" on a distro? [04:51] rworkman: it doesn't specify any details [04:52] The source code is disorganized (or at least not as I'm used from countless other free projects, including gnome and such) [04:52] Coke, they imply gnome deps. that says it all :-) [04:52] The documentation preqreq section doesn't say anything about specific dependencies except python and git [04:52] slava_dp: yeah [04:52] And the fact that they cannot remain distro independant is a big fail too [04:52] how fucking hard is that? [04:52] How's mworkman3 tonight? Cute? [04:53] rob0: of course :) [04:53] sleeping at the moment ! :D [04:53] I get it, you don't want to port to Winblows or OSX, cool, but instead of writing "this software is required" them lazy dudes just write "oh, we do stuff on RH, dep list is long and tedious" (paraphrased) [04:53] slava_dp: in other words, you'll have to build and watch what breaks until you've weeded out all deps [04:54] I guessed so much =] [04:54] I hope they don't require all of gnome [04:54] looking at the docs it's impossible to tell [04:55] rworkman, I have a theory about my new install mess the other day. I had chmod +x rc.mysql without remembering to set up the database first. Could that have caused the hang at boot? [04:55] Coke, I'm going to try building, not now, but when I have the time. [04:56] slava_dp: good luck. :) [04:56] rob0: er, I don't think so, no. [04:56] Well shit.. i think i might be about to succeed in putting SP1 on this vista image. Its been 3 weeks now! After you install every single update under the sun and theres nothing left it finally says.. oh yeah, you need SP1. Fingers crossed..... [04:56] Then it will remain a mystery, I guess, oh well. [04:57] bah [04:57] Zordrak, still struggling? [04:57] yeah :) [04:57] revel0__ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:57] but fingers crossed, this is it... and i have just taken a snapshot too so i have somewhere to come back to. [04:58] maybe it just doesn't like virtualbox. [04:59] i would agree except theres just nothing about it that even vaguely feels hardware related.. its all windows update failures and oh whoops heres anotherl hex code as to why we couldnt even download that update, let alone install it [04:59] Zordrak: was running XP in vbox for my mobile builds, OBOY did I loath it [04:59] Everything about Windows from the ugly ass UI to the total lack of control, logic and decent management of my time [04:59] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) joined ##slackware. [05:00] Blue fucking bars... [05:00] slowly crawling to the right of my screen only to end with "Unknown fucking error, reinstall everything!!!" [05:01] and as I understand it, XP was the fastest to date? Hm. Haven't really used windows since 97-98 or so [05:01] Zordrak, windows update works fine for millions of people, you clearly realize it. I would say it doesn't like virtualbox. [05:02] slava_dp: one can only imagine what black magic is contained in the updates that would make it break because of the underlying "hw" [05:02] slava_dp: not so. i have had lots of troubles with it on the bare metal vista installation.. just not as many as this time [05:02] I can vouch for those problems too [05:02] some of the guys at production have vista and win7 laptops, they break all the time [05:03] some guys will have their updates running for 20+ hours without being finished [05:03] they disrupt it and at next boot it's like "broken! reinstall!" [05:03] lol. I've only run updates on xp and win server 2003 and they ran fine. [05:03] slava_dp: its the same code base and it worked pretty well [05:03] slava_dp: I shit you not, Vista upgrades take more than a whole day [05:04] win7 doesnt have many updates yet, but yeah, they take 6-15 hours to install during which time you cannot use the computer [05:04] Luckily I just wave my hand and say "no no! you picked your OS you deal with it. I offered you archlinux" [05:04] slava_dp: ive had the occasional trouble with XP updates.. but because windows/microsoft update is an installed application you can re-install it. In Vista its integrated like IE was in XP.. and when it blows chunks its projectile. [05:05] Coke: never seen anything like that on win 7, they must've fucked up something really bad [05:05] 5 minutes tops for updates on my machine [05:06] dvel (~dvel@24.85.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [05:06] LSD` (~ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:06] surrounder: the MS mirrors are sloooow [05:06] dvel (~dvel@24.85.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Changing host [05:06] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [05:06] I'd offer them slackware, but you know... KDE? [05:06] win 2k support dies this month - officially [05:06] Coke: never noticed that either [05:06] Coke: thats not really true [05:06] mancha: xpsp2 too [05:06] Zordrak: I get about 50-100k on my 24Mb line [05:06] yes. but most ppl are on xp sp3 no? [05:07] I hate it how windows makes an hdd bad sector on the spot where the system registry resides (winnt/config/system). I've seen 2 or 3 pc's make a bad sector out of the registry. [05:07] Zordrak: sometimes it drops to 5k [05:07] Coke: i get pretty much my line speed.. and thats 20mb fibre [05:07] pilipo (~pilipo@203.177.147.86) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:07] Zordrak: i guess they dont care about customers here then [05:07] mancha: except for people whos xp boxes are so blown they cant install sp3 and they cant even reinstall cause THE MORONS LOST THEIR EXPENSIVE SOFTWARE! [05:07] most my IT buddies upgrade their XP's and Vista's overnight [05:08] Zordrak: reinstalling is the ultimate failure. I would demand my money back from MS was it ever suggested. Oh, wait, the EULA clearly states Microsoft doesn't really bother checking if their stuff works [05:09] There's a hacked, downsized version of XP that is rather OK. [05:09] Took me about 15 minuts to install on vbox and it boots up in like 30s [05:09] < 250M [05:10] 8 seconds from bootloader to a working desktop on my old xp2200+ [05:10] 170 MB iso [05:10] 2200? [05:10] ahtlon xp2200+ [05:10] *athlon [05:10] what exactly was included there? [05:10] not much [05:11] im guessing that's xp? [05:11] the odd thing is my XP ran faster in vbox than on the actual machine [05:12] I think it has to do with how XP handles disk and ram and that vbox actually has a rather effective disk cache code [05:13] linux has an effective cache code ;) [05:14] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:15] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:17] where can I find some good ntp servers for my ntp.conf file? [05:17] pool.ntp.org [05:18] specifically "<2 letter country code>.ca.pool.ntp.org" [05:18] meh, borked paste [05:18] never_mind (~dexter@219.64.95.198) joined ##slackware. [05:18] {0-3}.country_code.pool.ntp.org [05:18] you get the idea [05:18] Nick change: never_mind -> Dexter [05:19] neat. didn't know about the numeric prefix magic [05:20] they split the country pool to 3 or 4 parts, so you can access different servers from them :-) [05:22] Zoubiddaaa (~Zoubiddaa@2001:7a8:34d5::1:102) joined ##slackware. [05:23] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [05:27] meh.. ntp.demon.co.uk ! Been using it for a decade or more. [05:27] pejman (~pejman@188.34.71.111) joined ##slackware. [05:30] pejman (~pejman@188.34.71.111) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:32] pejman (~pejman@188.34.71.111) joined ##slackware. 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[05:39] ew [05:39] a stoopid way :-) but should work [05:39] nah not that hehe [05:40] should we file a bug? [05:40] well I don't get this, on other distros I've used I don't use a screensaver and just let the screen blank and when I played videos in vlc on them it never happened [05:41] i dont think itsa bug [05:41] maybe [05:41] pejman (pejman@188.34.71.111) left ##slackware. [05:41] I only get this in slack, never seen this happen on any main stream distro like Fedora, Suse, Ubuntu etc.... [05:41] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [05:42] yeah I am using the vlc-1.1.0.rc3 [05:42] maybe that's why [05:42] Xgates: no its always been the same [05:42] same what? [05:42] b0rked [05:43] I've never seen this happen on other distros I've used everr [05:43] ever.... [05:43] alienBOB, does vlc prevent screen blanking for you? [05:43] ive never had it work on slack in *box [05:43] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [05:43] and I'm talking a few years worth of using vlc [05:44] VLC doesn't inhibit power management here either, even when you check the box [05:45] i guess the question is.. how is it _suposed_ to be doing it [05:46] well I'd really like to know why on any other distro I've used it on, not using a screen saver either and just letting the screen blank it never happened before for me in vlc [05:46] blame aliens :-) [05:47] all the years I've used it's always worked like this so I just assumed this was something that vlc handled [05:47] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.172.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:47] although dragon is supposed to also prevent blanking, and it doesn't. [05:47] so maybe something is amiss with the system. [05:48] Necrosporus (~Xenius@81.18.126.38) joined ##slackware. [05:48] Necrosporus (~Xenius@81.18.126.38) left irc: Changing host [05:48] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [05:48] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:49] well right now I'm using vlc-1.1.0.rc3-i486-2alien.txz [05:49] the thing is I always thought too that you had to have a lot of dependanices installed for vlc yet I can just download and run this vlc pack alone by itself so the complied pack has all the deps built into it? [05:50] yes [05:50] look at the slackbuild for it [05:50] ok [05:50] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:50] it pulls from a bunch of different source tarballs [05:51] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [05:52] I see yea he built them in [05:53] is there a vlc-1.0.5 or vlc-1.0.6 for Slack 13.1? [05:53] warmana (~quassel@188-222-193-153.zone13.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:53] I see there is vlc-1.0.6 for 13 [05:54] Xgates, I'm almost sure that it will work on 13.1. [05:54] I'd rather not use the rc if I can avoid it for now [05:56] You can use the package I built for 13.0, some minor things will not work iirc [05:56] Or rebuild 1.0.6 on Slackware 13.1 [05:56] frankd (1003@cpe-24-161-9-57.hvc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:57] I think it's Slackware's xdg-utils which are too old. VLC calls one of the XDG tools to inhibit the screensaver but that tool fails [05:58] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:58] ah [05:58] hey alienBOB [05:58] worth flagging with Pat for the next cycle? [05:58] alienBOB, vlc did that on 12.2, 13.0 and 13.1. [05:58] Hm, Pat upgraded to a recent xdg-utils in Slackware 13.1 after I asked him. Do you still have the screensaver issue? [05:58] did you make 1.0.5 for 13.1? [05:58] bah :) [05:58] that's suppose to be a nice version [05:58] Xgates: why would I build 1.0.5 for Slackware 13.1? [05:58] Do it yourself then! [05:58] alienBOB, I do have the issue with both vlc and dragon player. [05:59] slava_dp: yes, it is not vlc's fault [05:59] I thought it's the latest stable is why [05:59] alienBOB: is xdg intended to kill the screensaver, or the screensaver, blanking AND power management? [05:59] Xgates: 1.0.6 is the latest stable for _linux_ [05:59] alienBOB: last i checked, all three had to be disabled to stop losing picture [06:00] I don't use a screensaver I just let my screen blank [06:00] ok [06:01] My pppd started via kppp says, it can't find /etc/ppp/options. But I have removed /etc/ppp and reinstalled ppp package completely, so there is surely file on place [06:01] touch /etc/ppp/options [06:01] slava_dp, hmp? [06:02] Empty file doesn't help [06:02] ahh.. DPMS is the acronym i was l/ooking for re: monitor powerc management [06:02] echo "non-empty" > /etc/ppp/options # :-) [06:02] It can't find /etc/ppp/options while file present [06:03] slava_dp, I have tried to restore default files, it doesn't work as well [06:03] Something seems messed up with ppp in slackware 13.1 [06:05] alienBOB: did you build 1.0.6 for 13.1 and have it tucked away somewhere? :) [06:05] xset s off; xset -dpms; setterm -blank 0 [06:06] hehe [06:07] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:08] ahhhh Zordrak so that stops the screen from blanking yeah? [06:08] Any of you guys very familiar with xlib and Xorg sources? [06:08] then if you want it to blank at 15mins then run: xset s off; xset -dpms; setterm -blank 15 [06:09] Been looking for code snippets in svgalib and xorg to see exactly how the user space api communicates with kernel space [06:09] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [06:09] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.172.100) joined ##slackware. [06:11] Xgates: no, I did not build 1.0.6 for Slackware 13.1 specifically. The 1.1.0 release candidates are much better than 1.0.6 already [06:13] ok I'm using RC3 right now [06:16] alienBOB, a solution to the blanking problem would be very much appreciated. it annoys the hell out of my family :-) [06:16] slava_dp: did you do the xset magic? [06:16] alienBOB: you good with the ATI chips? I've always had nvidia but got a great deal on a laptop that has a HD3200 in it and I installed 10.5 as --buildpkg Slackware/All not sure what they did in Ubuntu if they patched anything but in Slack I get a bit of screen tearing unless I use GLX video output which I've never had to do in other distros so not sure why I can't get great playback [06:16] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.136.118) left irc: Quit: I'll be back... [06:16] Coke, it should be controlled by vlc, no? [06:17] slava_dp: oh you dont want blank only when watching fullscreen? [06:17] can't extract sense from your last sentence... [06:18] not saying this is a vlc issued just that running the ati drivers in slack isn't running as nice as Ubuntu and it makes me wonder what have they done to improve it if anything [06:18] issued/issue.... [06:18] Xgates: I banned all Ati cards from my house [06:18] slava_dp: you want to turn blanking of when using fullscreen stuff? [06:18] slava_dp: because yeah, the apps should tell X to hold it [06:18] well let me tell ya this is the FIRST and last for me LOL [06:18] Coke, I want the screen to not blank when I watch any video. no matter, windowed or fullscreen. [06:18] slava_dp: that's not how they work [06:19] orly? :) [06:19] slava_dp: or its depending on what video player [06:19] slava_dp: flash will only block blanking in fullscreen [06:19] but why won't the video performance be as nice as what Ubuntu is, I thought they are just using the same drivers [06:19] mplayer and vlc probably blocks blanking regardless [06:19] don't care for flash [06:19] slava_dp: ok, but if youre just using regular x blanking mplayer and/or vlc should handle it [06:20] or maybe they're patching it [06:20] Coke, does vlc handle it for you in 13.1? [06:20] slava_dp: sorry, don't use vlc [06:20] xine, dragon, whatever [06:20] slava_dp: as a matter of fact, I have no video player installed on my slackware systems at all [06:20] Action: slava_dp facepalms [06:21] has anyone tried smplayer? [06:21] but I've got them all on my archlinux systems and it has worked since forever [06:22] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) joined ##slackware. [06:23] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:23] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:23] smplayer has a disable screensaver option. it probably works [06:24] It's not going to work. [06:24] Well, it might in kde [06:25] If you're running xscreensaver, ti won't. That inhibit option "works" by sending a dbus signal on one fo the session buses that xscreensaver isn't listening to [06:25] Azeotrope (1000@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:25] iirc, gnome-screensaver listens to it, and maybe kde's screensaver [06:29] masterslakk (~mastersla@99.30.144.105) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:29] xset s off; xset -dpms <-- handles X [06:29] setterm -blank 0 <-- handles framebuffer [06:29] afaik [06:32] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.25.69) joined ##slackware. [06:40] is there anyway I can take what rsyslog can read and convert it to something that syslog.conf can deal with? [06:40] This is the line: :msg,contains,"[UFW " /var/log/ufw.log [06:40] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-203.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [06:40] You're using ufw on Slackware? [06:41] this is for the ufw firewall I'm playing with but it doesn't support ulog at the moment [06:41] rob0: yeah just playing with it seeing how it is... [06:41] and rsyslog too? [06:41] no just syslog [06:41] No, syslogd(8) does not do the same things that rsyslog and syslog-ng can do. [06:41] ok [06:42] But anyway, routine logging from iptables is generally not a good idea. Netfilter can block packets far faster than any syslog daemon and disk can store the logs. [06:44] so what -j LOG is not a good idea? [06:45] it's one way someone can DoS you [06:45] so then how are you suppose to keep an eye on the firewall to see what's going on as far as logging is concerned? [06:46] but i'd worry about crossing that bridge when you get to it. an acceptable approach is to log certain types of packets, dunno, say martians, or whateber. [06:46] well I have it on low level logging [06:47] you should just do penetration testing and once you are sure what you want blocked is blocked what would be the purpose of further logging? [06:48] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [06:50] well I've always assumed you still log to see what trys to hit you [06:50] people use intrusion detectors for that [06:51] if you're very worried you can use snort or summit [06:51] ah. still that annoying screensaver convo alive. i HATE it when my default install goes all screen saving on me. idiots at the helm. dont wake them, everest will take care of em. [06:51] well what's hitting you is not necessarily part of intrusion detection but yes [06:51] i'd say sure log it, but be ready to grep out the stuff you know is just the same old worm or port scan [06:51] sure lot's of traffic out there... [06:52] s/lot\'s/lots/ [06:52] hey so anyone come up with how to keep vlc from sleeping/blanking out when playing? [06:52] vlc sleeps? [06:53] well my screen blanks at around 15 mins from X [06:53] I don't use a screensaver and I just have OpenBox installed [06:54] so I thought vlc will stop the screen from blanking but it's not [06:55] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:55] Xgates: i told you [06:55] use xset [06:55] xset s off; xset -dpms [06:56] well when you said afaik I wondered if you were sure :) [06:56] Xgates: it is as annoying for me as it is for you. this option should NEVER have made it to upstream. [06:56] Xgates: meaning you didnt bother to try it.. [06:56] Zordrak: whats your stance on such madness screensaver? [06:56] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:57] i think "if you need one, set up one." [06:57] I'm not sure you even know what you're asking. [06:57] ok well how would I set the blanking back to the default? [06:57] having to tweak an existing madness setup ... doesnt help making friends at conventions [06:57] cause I don't want it to be always off [06:57] Xgates: look at the output of xset -q [06:57] then google whdat you dont know [06:59] well I see it: [06:59] prefer blanking: yes allow exposures: yes [06:59] timeout: 600 cycle: 600 [07:00] are the hw makers turning on msft, finally? [07:00] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:02] maybe all you have to do then is ---- xset s on; xset +dpms [07:03] dpms is enabled by default [07:04] yeah that works to put it back [07:05] sahko: yes we said to turn it off with ---- xset s off; xset -dpms [07:06] what are the default time's for dpms? [07:06] then I said to turn it back all you had to do was xset s on; xset +dpms [07:06] this is what I got [07:06] DPMS (Energy Star): [07:06] Standby: 600 Suspend: 600 Off: 600 [07:07] 10 minutes then [07:07] ok [07:09] well I'm off to plug the ole usb drive in and watch some Caprica I have :) [07:09] Action: Xgates loves SciFi [07:10] thanks Zordrak [07:10] thanks guys [07:10] catch ya later [07:10] u 2 mancha :) [07:10] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Pong Time Out ( 0 Seconds ) [07:12] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [07:14] slackytude (~slacky@e180228147.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. 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[09:00] C00re (hard@unaffiliated/c00re) joined ##slackware. [09:01] NightTiger (~derekm@ottawa-hs-64-26-171-99.s-ip.magma.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:01] hi all,anyone to help me pls:) [09:02] i want to install slackware 13.1.My first OS windows xp i want dual boot [09:02] darko22: ok, do you have a specific question? [09:04] i guess what he wants to know is how to google the task he faces [09:04] thumbs [09:04] Do not reboot until after editing and proofreading menu.lst. [09:04] hot to edin ]; [09:04] i dont understend how to edit [09:04] darko22: menu.lst is for grub. Slackware uses lilo [09:04] there is no menu.lst in slackware. [09:04] shh. [09:05] aham ok thumbs [09:05] maybe hes confscking ubuntu madness with slackheaven. [09:05] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:05] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.169.83.221) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [09:05] darko22: you're not reading a ubuntu guide, are you? [09:06] before i install slackware but after reboot my linux is not visible thumbs [09:06] Ubuntu no longer uses menu.lst, either; they use the insanely complex GRUB2. [09:06] darko22: do you see the slackware splash screen when you reboot? [09:06] clavius (1000@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:06] rob0: even scarier. teehee. [09:06] Sexxx (Jack-@91.139.188.197) left irc: [09:07] no thumbs [09:07] Action: jg71 just pimped out fsfe invatations to local fist ever meeting and was amazed by the number of mailinglists subscribed to. [09:07] darko22: so you didn't install lilo to the mbr during your instllation, I presume [09:07] I detest GRUB2. GRUB1 wasn't bad at all, in fact, probably better overall than LILO. [09:08] rob0: you've fallen to the dark side! [09:08] darko22 side? [09:08] darko22 might benefit from the Slackbook, FWIW. [09:08] heh [09:08] rob0, no love for grub2? seems OK in my limited use [09:09] aham,may be thums:) [09:09] darko22: www.slackbook.org [09:09] darko22: it has a chapter on installation. You can still boot the dvd, chroot to /, then re-run lilo after you've edited lilo.conf [09:10] darko22: this should install lilo on the mbr, and allow you to boot. [09:10] ugh, I hated it. Too much to have to learn, even for simple things. And some things that don't belong in the bootloader have been put in GRUB2 ... like GUI stuff. [09:10] demoncyber_ (~marco@187.59.80.52) joined ##slackware. [09:10] What I liked about GRUB1 was that you could edit that menu.lst under any Unix/Linux OS. [09:10] lilo ftw. grub your own hole. thats the saying. [09:11] ok thumbs tnx very match:) [09:11] And, unlike LILO, no binary boot map to maintain. You'd need a compatible LILO in any OS you wanted to boot. [09:11] thumbs [09:11] http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/extra/large/slackwareinstallation-large_007.png [09:11] how to formatted [09:12] darko22: it's a matter of preference, really. [09:12] darko22: I like reiser, others like ext3. The latter seems more popular here [09:12] darko22, pick ext4. [09:12] ext4 [09:13] darko22: is this 13.1 ? [09:13] ok:) [09:13] if your partition is less than 300 gigs, pick ext4 :) [09:13] yes 13.1 [09:13] i want [09:13] byt this pic i dont know [09:13] this pic is outdated. [09:13] darko22: the 13.1 installer should give you the option to pick ext4 [09:14] Action: rob0 is using xfs with no problems for quite some time [09:14] ok:) [09:14] the whole slackbook is outdated by now, and Alan_Hicks doesn't want to give us v3. :-) [09:14] Action: thumbs pulls the plug on rob0's server [09:14] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:14] Action: hitest likes jfs [09:14] you see? Everyone prefers a fs. [09:15] bye all heva nice day ot night :D [09:15] darko22 (~user@213.149.138.60) left irc: [09:17] BentoPUNK (~BentoPUNK@189.2.128.178) joined ##slackware. [09:17] yay for rpm's dependency checking. Apparently I'm missing a dependency for a package I *just* built from source [09:17] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:18] broken spec file, maybe [09:18] built and installed, or just built? :) [09:18] I'm trying to figure out where that dep came from, but I cannot find any reference :( [09:20] rob0: he must have forgotten to install it from /tmp [09:20] oops! [09:20] what? seriously? [09:20] I'm joking. [09:21] actually, I wouldn't have been that surprised if that weren't the case :/ [09:21] rob0: built, it complains on install [09:24] loafy (~loafy@72.84.97.42) joined ##slackware. [09:25] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) left irc: Quit: mosno [09:25] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [09:31] omg, stupid auto-dep-checking added a dependency from another repository. I *hate* dependency management :( [09:32] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [09:33] sup all [09:34] pprkut, that should be illegal - no way to disable that? would make building rpms in general a nightmare [09:35] im75KG (~coolshoul@116.24.93.100) joined ##slackware. [09:36] Coore_ (c00re@d0h.us) left ##slackware. [09:36] pprkut should try Slackware some time. ;) [09:36] thrice`: yes, but ... you know. disabling by orbital nuking. im all for it. [09:36] ffs.. [09:36] http://orbital.nuking.org/ :-))))) [09:37] We really need to get on top of slackbuilds that are setting top level dirs group-writable [09:37] next time a pun catches you, we wont help, Zordrak ... really. horrible mental images. [09:37] ive just discovered a cronjob to send someone a mail hasnt been running since April because an SBo package (might even be one of mine) set /etc group-writable which made sendmail blow chunks [09:38] sendmail? [09:39] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.80.190) joined ##slackware. [09:39] its what comes with slack.. im not manually replacing it on every box i install. TBH all i need is something like ssmtp.. but sendmail is what i have -so sendmail is what i'll use [09:39] ehehehe. it's what you ack to causing illness. [09:40] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:40] thrice`: it can, but it sucks nonetheless :( [09:41] about the only dep. management I can tolerate are the ones that are only listed in a nice build script [09:41] where one can edit them pretty easily :> [09:41] thrice`: aye.. the best system is "if you install this you will also need: " [09:42] gentoo does this pretty nicely, imo [09:42] tell you what though.. it is tempting to write a tool that scans a pkg for bins, runs ldd on them, then reports whats missing on the current sys [09:43] that would be a 15-line script :) [09:43] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:44] if one wanted you could then add a call to "slackpkg file-search" [09:44] 'scanelf' might be a better tool :> [09:45] and now I get permission denied on a file that is chmod 777.... [09:46] tuxdev_ (~tim@ip98-171-169-141.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:46] binary? $arch issues? [09:46] tuxdev_ (~tim@ip98-171-169-141.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Changing host [09:46] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [09:46] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:46] pprkut: selinux? [09:47] it's centos, I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case [09:48] pprkut: you dont disable it during install? [09:48] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:48] or /etc/selinux/config I think [09:48] pprkut: it most likely is, then. [09:48] pprkut: check auto.log [09:49] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.136.118) joined ##slackware. [09:49] pprkut: or setenforce 0 to temporarily disable it. [09:49] what is selinux even for, to comlicate one's life? [09:49] err, audit.log, rather. [09:49] All this begs the question of why a file is mode 777. :) [09:49] Nick change: bgs000 -> bgs100 [09:50] demoncyber_ (~marco@187.59.80.52) left irc: Quit: Saindo [09:50] rob0: debugging :) [09:52] groo_ (~groo@189.64.170.64) joined ##slackware. [09:52] groo_ (~groo@189.64.170.64) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:52] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:57] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:57] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [09:58] thumbs: still getting permission denied after "setenforce 0" [09:59] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-127.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:59] are you trying to run it? [09:59] pprkut: umm [10:01] I have absolutely no clue what the hell is going on here :( [10:02] pprkut: show us "file foo" ? [10:02] we may be of no use.. but worth a look [10:03] argh, damn. Installing the rpm changed the ownership of the folder above [10:03] -x ? [10:03] pprkut: intriguing.. JUST had that problem with slack [10:04] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:06] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:06] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: gone [10:06] thrice`: no, different user/group [10:07] so, the error is gone and the app is still not working. *sigh*. Why does centos hate me? [10:08] asarch (~asarch@187.132.136.54) joined ##slackware. [10:08] banditman (~djt@92.14.52.241) joined ##slackware. [10:08] pprkut: It's RHEL that hates you.. CentOS is trying to help and sympathise, but just doesn't have the power to help in any way. [10:08] fair enough [10:08] :) [10:09] http://www.orschlurch.de/2010/06/14/mcdonalds-restaurantkritiker/ <- i like ugly children [10:10] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.107) left irc: Quit: rafu [10:10] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) joined ##slackware. [10:11] get (~isix-os@devel.isix-os.org) left irc: Changing host [10:11] get (~isix-os@unaffiliated/get) joined ##slackware. [10:11] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.22.15.177.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:11] Ew. Short, Ginger, Fat & McDonalds. I nearly threw up. [10:11] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.4) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:11] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [10:11] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [10:12] slackytude (~slacky@e180228147.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:13] #ubuntu is such a mess [10:14] people talking "should I use apt-get or aptitude?" "use aptitude, they say it's better!" "no, use apt-get, ubuntu suggests installing with apt-get" [10:14] that's a good thing [10:15] newbies trying to learn :) [10:16] woohoo! progress. Now it runs but doesn't work.... [10:16] pprkut: welcome to slackware [10:16] problem is, there are no knowledgeable users in the channel :) it's newbies helping newbies.... [10:16] slava_dp: there are so many good ubuntu driven wikis [10:16] slava_dp: i wonder y they don't use them [10:16] fb|jean, fail, he's on centos :-) [10:16] damn! [10:16] <- fool [10:17] yeah, /topic ffs :p [10:17] :D [10:17] slava_dp: which is not bad.. one of them will eventually find an answer to the problem from the web and things will work out [10:17] gradually [10:19] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) joined ##slackware. [10:19] m / 21 / bodybuilder / looking for w [10:20] fb|jean: :) [10:20] freex (~user@93-82-110-150.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [10:20] hi all [10:21] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB466.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:21] pprkut: heinz, m or w? [10:21] :D [10:24] huh? [10:25] I always forget the syntax of ln.... is it 'ln source linkname' ? [10:25] rtfm? :) [10:26] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!0@* expired. [10:26] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:26] slava_dp: yep [10:26] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.97.139) joined ##slackware. [10:26] slava_dp: I have the same problem but I learned to focus the correct example line when man'ing ln [10:26] slava_dp: you should do the same. man ln. there are pretty good explanations [10:26] pejman (~pejman@188.34.71.111) joined ##slackware. [10:27] thanks :) [10:28] man ln | pr | lpr --> pin to the wall [10:28] or just read it out loud [10:29] pejman (pejman@188.34.71.111) left ##slackware. [10:29] pr / lpr? [10:29] What's that? [10:29] rtfm? :) [10:29] print [10:29] Ah, printing... [10:29] fu :D [10:29] hahaha [10:29] Or even better: gzip --decompress --to-stdout $( man -w ln ) | groff -mandoc -rD1 -t | lpr [10:29] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:30] asarch, that's too many letters [10:30] :-P [10:30] This is slava_dp dancing 'round coz' he learned what the meaning of rtfm is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypy2PTGYu4w [10:31] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:31] hello, I am attempting to use fdisk to re partition an external 2TB drive, and it is currently telling me that there is only 1 cylinder on the entire drive, any recommendations? [10:32] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D7B7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:32] AEnima1577: did you put a ms-dos partition table on the drive? [10:32] might want to try parted [10:32] I did not, but someone else did [10:33] i crlt-c 'ed out of fdisk [10:33] and I use fdisk -l [10:33] the system is W95 Fat32 (LBA) [10:33] Start at 2 ends at 3 [10:34] AEnima1577, that's a partition, delete it [10:34] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:35] cfdisk is friendlier than fdisk. [10:35] cfdisk > fdisk by the way :) [10:35] AEnima1577: cfdisk is a bit more easy to read [10:35] damn [10:35] hah [10:35] gmta [10:35] slava_dp: definitley not. cfdisk can't fix etc. [10:35] see cfdisk(8) -z option. [10:35] only one partition is showing up on fdisk -l, but when I go into fdisk /dev/sdb1, then there appears to be 4 partitions with errors all over the place [10:35] (if there's no data to save) [10:36] AEnima1577, cfdisk -z /dev/sdb [10:36] haha [10:36] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [10:36] echo fdisk /dev/sdb1 | sed s/1// [10:37] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [10:37] sed s/1// <<< "fdisk /dev/sdb1" # don't waste a subshell =] [10:37] You only do fdisk on the whole drive (/dev/sdb), not a partition such as /dev/sdb1. [10:37] Hello all [10:38] AEnima1577: if data can be deleted create a new partition table [10:38] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:39] slava_dp: what's a subshell? [10:39] a pipe invokes another shell while running [10:39] Ah [10:39] Zordrak: I feel like running windows. Restarting the app a couple of times fixed the issue... [10:41] I'm trying to run Google Chrome expect it says it cannot load libnss3.so.1d even thought I made a symbolic link to /usr/lib64/firefox-3.6.3/libnss3.so -- any one have an idea why it won't run? [10:42] mina86: did you use the slackbuild from sbo? [10:42] I am concerned that there might still be some errors on the disk [10:43] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@host-studentw-140-195.dhcp.stevens-tech.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:43] jgeboski: I did what's in it but not automatically [10:43] I had an epic failure, and sent this external off to LaCie and they "fixed it" and sent it back [10:43] mina86: are you on 13.0? [10:43] .1 [10:43] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [10:43] i guess ill go with the cfdisk -z, and run a smart test when its all over [10:44] mina86: that's odd [10:44] mina86: you could just link the missing libs from firefox or seamonkey if you want [10:44] uh, ok, wait [10:44] I just built Google Chrome using SBo on my 13.1 and it worked with no problems... [10:45] I run it via ./google-chrome and I got libgconf-2.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory now [10:45] you need gconf [10:45] ..and Orbit2 [10:45] in fact is says that right on the sbo page ;) [10:45] they should mention that, it sure would make it easier [10:46] cfdisk, is doing a similar thing, it is not allowing me to re partition the whole drive, [10:46] it is saying that I only have 8MB on the drive [10:46] any other suggestions? [10:47] Short question: I saw an presentation some days ago where someone was using a tiling window manager in that he "fullscreens" the different parts / tiles / quarters and swaps through them - looked like he used multiple x-instances on the first view. Does someone in here know which window manager can do this? [10:47] Not as short as I thought... [10:47] sounds like TWM :) [10:48] (You know I'm kidding, right?) [10:48] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:48] petera3 (~pa3@75-149-128-53-Connecticut.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [10:49] Don't know, but I hadn't got the time to look up if you're kidding :P [10:49] jgeboski: where do I get gconf? I cannot seem to find official package... is it yet another unofficial package I need? [10:49] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:50] I'm kidding [10:50] mina86, it's on slackbuilds.org [10:50] duh [10:50] also, if you can't locate gconf's homepage, try harder, it's a pretty important component [10:50] I was looking at YouTube videos last night on how to use IRSSI and somehow I went off into "Linux is Sexy"... [10:51] so many gorbage to get some browser [10:51] (for example, it's the first hit on google) [10:51] If you look for that, you'll see all sorts of videos of different WMs doing 3d stuff, and box-wobbles and all sorts of eyecandy [10:52] I don't know which WM you saw but, I'd look there and see... [10:53] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) left irc: Quit: velusip [10:54] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:54] guess I'll stick with Opera after all [10:55] mina86, why? you only need 2 more packages, and they are both on slackbuilds.org [10:55] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@host-studentw-140-195.dhcp.stevens-tech.edu) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:55] mina86: just follow the documentation at slackbuilds.org [10:57] I don't like unofficial packages. I want to keep them to minimum and Google Chrome just does not seem like worth the hastle [10:57] Mina86: don't forget Orbit2 from Slackbuilds also [10:57] One needs the other and Chrome needs both [10:58] Eh, it's ok. I prefer Firefox over Chrome so far... [10:58] mina86, what does 'unofficial' mean? [10:59] I have found ONE PAGE that Firefox messes up the Java but Chrome renders it correctly. [10:59] thrice`: one I cannot find here: ftp://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-current/slackware/ [11:00] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [11:00] ulma (~ulma@p5DC921CE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:01] hi [11:01] mina86, how does chrome fit that? :) [11:01] (or opera) [11:02] it doesen't [11:02] doesn't [11:02] why doesnt amazon have ~£10 mp3 players(?) [11:02] but Opera is way better then Firefox [11:03] some would argue that [11:03] Hi Ulma [11:03] <--likes Opera [11:03] ah.. wrong sexshun [11:03] Heya Zordrak o/ [11:03] jgeboski: doesn't matter -- my PC, I set the rules [11:04] i do. [11:04] :p [11:04] im75KG_ (~coolshoul@119.122.43.136) joined ##slackware. [11:04] as I'v said, I like having as few unofficial packages as possible but tolerate them now and then [11:04] i have freshly installed a slackware, edited the /etc/profile.d/lang.sh and /etc/rc.d/rc.keymap to get german keymap, but i wont get the german keymap in X [11:04] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [11:05] ulma: one sec.. have a link for you [11:05] ulma: /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi ? [11:06] ulma: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/08/30/slackware-13-0-xorg-hal/ [11:07] im75KG (~coolshoul@116.24.93.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:07] Nick change: im75KG_ -> im75KG [11:07] ah hal, last time i used linux hal wasnt a must, thanks mina86 and Zordrak [11:07] ulma: it still isn't but you'd have to configure /etc/X11/xorg.conf [11:08] theF Ministry of Sound 256MB(!!) MP3 player.. £50!! [11:08] I bought a 1gig sansa clip for $15 2 years ago iirc [11:08] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:09] ah in the keymap.fdi is an example for not using hal and editing the xorg.conf mina86, but i think i give hal a try [11:10] ulma (~ulma@p5DC921CE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:10] arcfide (~arcfide@adsl-99-50-225-164.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:11] solar_sea (~solar@85.14.14.82) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:11] im75KG_ (~coolshoul@119.122.43.136) joined ##slackware. [11:11] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:14] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:14] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:14] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:15] im75KG (~coolshoul@119.122.43.136) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:15] Nick change: im75KG_ -> im75KG [11:17] Anyone know how to filter the Joins and Leave messages in IRSSI? [11:18] /ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS MODES [11:18] or some such [11:19] use -channel ##slackware to limit to this channel [11:20] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:20] petera3 (pa3@75-149-128-53-Connecticut.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left ##slackware. [11:21] mrpwnage: sup [11:21] TY [11:22] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.80.190) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:23] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) left irc: Quit: mosno [11:23] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:23] rafu1 (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) joined ##slackware. [11:24] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:27] one more hour or so and im on holiday till the 25th [11:27] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) joined ##slackware. [11:28] Congrats.... [11:28] freex_ (~user@93-82-111-156.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [11:28] wuha nice! where are you going ? [11:29] 85.5 more hours until I'm on vacation until the 25th [11:30] nowhere [11:30] just not here [11:30] rafu1 (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:30] maybe camping Mon/Tue but thats aboot it [11:30] plutt (~plutt@a-129-196-228-125.ext.fluke.com) joined ##slackware. [11:30] im75KG (~coolshoul@119.122.43.136) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539] [11:31] Don't get eaten by Bears [11:31] lol [11:31] ok [11:31] freex (~user@93-82-110-150.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:31] ive only taken one day of my allocation for 2010.. so i need to take some before its too late.. and shits gonna kick off here in about four weeks so nows a good time to take a break [11:31] arfon: I dont think there's too much of a bear problem in derbyshire [11:32] Derbyshire? Oh, then don't get eaten by small dogs.... [11:33] I hear Corgies are rampant there.... [11:33] yknow im not too sure about that one either [11:33] rafu1 (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) joined ##slackware. [11:33] i think serial-killing lorry drivers is a bigger problem.. but not too much in well-attended campsites [11:34] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) joined ##slackware. [11:34] Only, if 1) You're a naggy wife AND 2) You're too dumb to move out of the way. [11:35] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:35] its generally prostitutes who get the brunt of it [11:35] I'd be more worried about the cab-drivers... I hear they are crazy. [11:35] loafy: hey, sup man. :D [11:35] nothing much work work and more work [11:36] brunt? Don't you mean "tire"? [11:36] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:36] i hear ya. glad to see you made it in. [11:36] arfon: i get the feeling you think derbyshire is in the USA [11:37] No, it should be in the UK... [11:38] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-99.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:38] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [11:38] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) left irc: Quit: ‚» [11:39] banditman (~djt@92.14.52.241) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:39] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-74.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:39] loafy: don't get caught slackin. ;) [11:41] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:41] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:43] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.248) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:44] mrpwnage: s#it some one else has to be in shop to notice [11:45] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-74.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:45] haha [11:45] banditman (~djt@92.14.52.241) joined ##slackware. [11:48] sinuhe (~sinuhe@199.227.49.182) joined ##slackware. [11:49] v4nelle (~van@79.107.195.29) joined ##slackware. [11:50] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [11:50] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware. [11:51] just_curious (~just_curi@88.210.66.96.rev.optimus.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:52] sinuhe (~sinuhe@199.227.49.182) left irc: Client Quit [11:54] Hi, does anyone know if there is a "stripped" ISO version of the slackware 13.1 image? I'm asking because I'd like to install only the core & development packages. If anyone know please share and thank you. [11:54] just_curious, not for the dvd, but you can get cd's 1 and 2 for a "stripped" version [11:54] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:55] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [11:56] okay alison thank you, I'm just concerned because my bandwich is a little slow & 700 MB download when I could download only 300 MB, makes a Huge difference for me [11:56] sinuhe (~sinuhe@199.227.49.182) joined ##slackware. [11:57] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:57] just_curious: try some better.. makes bandwiches slip down easier [11:57] *butter [11:57] there is the possibility of d/l only cd1, get networking up, then install the rest from slackpkg [11:58] understood, I will download the cd1 version then, thanks for the help, over & out [11:58] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [11:58] just_curious (~just_curi@88.210.66.96.rev.optimus.pt) left irc: Quit: Java user signed off [12:01] warmana (~quassel@188-222-193-153.zone13.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. [12:01] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:01] no shit.. as a going away present it looks like vista is finally accepting SP1! [12:01] there is also the possibility of booting using loadlin or lilo with the kernel(hugesmp.s/bzImage) [12:01] its actually got to stage 3! [12:01] alisonken1home: how is that going to save him bandwidth? [12:02] along with the initrd(isolinux/initrd.img) [12:02] then do a net install [12:02] Zordrak: how you deploying it? [12:02] he only needs to d/l the first cd, then he can install only the packages that he needs rather than everything on the 2nd.3rd cd [12:03] spook: any way i can :) Ive been werking on getting a clean vbox vista sp2 for in house software testing.. for three weeks now [12:03] sinuhe (~sinuhe@199.227.49.182) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:03] alisonken1home: well, he technically doesn't *have* to install all *that* [12:03] spook: finally got it to accept sp1.. then i can snapshot and try for sp2 [12:03] Zordrak: WSUS is really cool. [12:03] s/install/download/ [12:03] sinuhe (~sinuhe@199.227.49.182) joined ##slackware. [12:03] gregsparc_ (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [12:03] nyRednek, true - if he knows how to work with thumbdrive image, but not sure of his skill level :) [12:04] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:04] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [12:04] spook: WSUS is a bloated waste of space :) but this is separate.. im just talking about one single image in vbox... not a net rollout [12:04] alisonken1home: that's true [12:04] WSUS? [12:04] Windows Software Update Services [12:04] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) got netsplit. [12:04] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) got netsplit. [12:04] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) got netsplit. [12:04] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) got netsplit. [12:04] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.mimer.net) got netsplit. [12:04] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) got netsplit. [12:04] pim_ (1000@slacker.student.utwente.nl) got netsplit. [12:04] rrh (~foo@217.75.82.130) got netsplit. [12:04] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) got netsplit. [12:04] Unsichtbar (titan@shellium/member/titan) got netsplit. [12:04] RJz0r (~ham@216-189-164-080-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) got netsplit. [12:04] Nick change: gregsparc_ -> gregsparc [12:04] Possible future nick collision: gregsparc [12:04] Zordrak: oh, windows is a waste of space anyways [12:04] network administrator thingy for windows updates [12:04] Zordrak: i dunno, having played with wsus it makes things quite easy with large numbers of machines [12:04] nyRednek: too true [12:05] spook: i couldnt even get the stupid thing to roll-out xpsp3 properly.. always having to manually poke at half the boxes [12:05] if reactos would support usb keyboards/mice, that would be a good alternative [12:06] spook: if the whole network was completely sanitised and every machine homologous i might have had a better experience.... but thats almost never the case [12:06] Zordrak: yeah well, autopatcher is a good starting point to get each machine up to speed. [12:06] pim_ (1000@slacker.student.utwente.nl) returned to ##slackware. [12:06] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.mimer.net) returned to ##slackware. 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[12:10] How stupid can one be to burn his hair while telephoning... [12:10] Guest45780 (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [12:10] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:10] Guest45780 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: You seem to know exactly how far to push things before leaving the channel, which tells me that you deserve a ban anyway. Five days. Stop being such a drama queen. [12:11] stf [12:11] *wtf [12:11] fb|jean, about the same as someone when asked to check his phone line unplugs the telephone that he's on [12:11] no? one ever did this? damn ^^ [12:11] ^^ <- sorry 4 being gay [12:11] yep - had it happen more than once [12:11] its what we call cold. three minutes on high ought to do the trick. [12:13] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] spook: you're not talking microwave, are you? [12:17] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) joined ##slackware. [12:18] nyRednek: i am :) [12:18] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) joined ##slackware. [12:19] its from a bofh type clip thing made by the register i think. lost it long ago [12:20] rafu1 (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:20] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:20] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:21] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:21] Aidar-Nagato (admin@77.79.178.77.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [12:24] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:25] ulma (~ulma@p5DC921CE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] Right.. ttfn. Might pop in now and then, otherwise i'll be back it a couple of weeks [12:25] few weeks? [12:25] is there any guide for slackware to downgrade applications? i guess i have to downgrade perl for urxvt [12:25] banditman (~djt@92.14.52.241) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:26] ulma: why? [12:26] ulma: upgradepkg [12:26] rebuild urxvt instead [12:26] panzer (~panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:27] i want to use the tabbed option for urxvt, by starting urxvt with the tabbed option i get "urxvt: unable to initialize perl-interpreter, continuing without." [12:27] found in the net that downgrade perl helped a couple of guys [12:27] did you build it yourself? [12:27] no [12:27] who did? [12:29] bdmac (~bdmac@net16.cl-tex.umanitoba.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:30] i installed it with the rxvt-unicode-9.06-i486-2.tgz from connie.slackware.com [12:31] thats alienBOBs package for Slackware 13.0 [12:31] are you using 13.0? [12:31] did you read the readme? [12:31] errm sorry 12.2 not 13.0 [12:31] only the pkg64 is for 13.0 [12:32] Nick change: get -> Get|Off [12:32] Nick change: Get|Off -> get [12:32] i am using slackware 13.1, i know this is for 12 but found a couple of reviews made by guys using 13.0 and working with this [12:32] ElitestFX (~ElitestFX@unaffiliated/elitestfx) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:32] i'm guessing he installed the 12.2 32bit package on 13.0 or above and thinks he needs to downgrade perl [12:32] and would you look at that, i was right [12:33] yeah, lets hose the system to use urxvt. yay! [12:33] bdmac (bdmac@net16.cl-tex.umanitoba.ca) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:33] in order to use* [12:35] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:36] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:36] panzer (~death@unaffiliated/panzer) joined ##slackware. [12:40] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:01] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:02] so apparently, if I want to change the menu in XFCE its going to take me hours and hours because I have to either edit, or create a bunch of .desktop files? [13:03] oh and those .desktop files are useless... the one for VLC does not work.... [13:03] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [13:05] try bitching in #xfce instead [13:07] .desktop entries are a standard - how dare xfce use them [13:08] xsamurai (~jamonyou@unaffiliated/xsamurai) joined ##slackware. [13:08] Action: ut is sure there are helper applications to do xfce menus [13:08] just switch to a window manager that uses plaintext configuration [13:08] anybody using slackware64 current and have xpdf as their default pdf reader ? [13:08] I prefer evince [13:09] and I suppose anyone having slackware64-13.1 is running the same as "-current" at this stage ;) [13:09] havent heard of it but i'll try [13:09] its a gnome app :o [13:10] xpdf seems to crash x server when I view certain pdfs online via ff [13:10] it's a gtk app * [13:12] why is /var/www the official place to put web data? [13:12] why is my car black? [13:12] dustybin: what would you prefer ? [13:12] thrice`: because it's a Model T [13:13] i'd say 90% of the distro's follow the /var/www setup for the root web directory [13:13] xsamurai: /srv/httpd [13:14] and httpd would be a mounted partition [13:14] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:14] Action: xsamurai writes down dustybin's requests and files it under 'lala land' [13:15] i personally delete /srv , just dont like the idea [13:15] sleekslack (~umislack@58.64.89.116) joined ##slackware. [13:15] dustybin: its slackware do what you like [13:15] geez you guys are ridiculous... just yesterday you told me to switch to XFCE from KDE, now you want me to switch again? make up your mind [13:15] some 'official' things are annoying [13:16] dustybin: well since slackware provides /srv/* ... [13:16] xsamurai: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#SRVDATAFORSERVICESPROVIDEDBYSYSTEM [13:16] KaMii: dont group me with the rest of the kde ho's [13:16] and again, your little comment of [13:16] switch, is not a help at all [13:16] biker (~biker@201.170.70.225.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) joined ##slackware. [13:16] that does not solve any problems, its called, running away from difficulties like a coward [13:17] dustybin: thats great, once again I do what I like, so I dont care what some guy named Rusty wrote back in 2004 [13:17] KaMii: you're the one who apparently wants to point/click to do everything.. [13:17] im a purist, i like things to be official and standard [13:17] are there any advantages to having wwww on its own parititon? [13:18] is this still about the menu in XFCE? [13:18] i dont like the idea of having www data on the same partition as logs [13:18] dustybin: no advantages matter of preference thats all [13:18] dustybin: so? less moaning, more making it work .. it's not *that* hard to edit the httpd.conf and get it sorted. [13:18] raela: spending hours to setup a menu is just ridiculous but if you have nothing better to do... then good for you. but i just want to know if there is an easier way [13:18] KaMii: http://menumaker.sourceforge.net/ ¿?¿ [13:18] imagine there was a problem on the server, the logs dir filled up 100% then www would also stop working maybe [13:18] dustybin: shut up, or put up. [13:18] if dustybin was a girl, i think the moaning would be bearable [13:18] I think I showed you an easier way KaMii ... [13:18] im not moaning! im just quering [13:18] xsamurai: notreally :) [13:19] im quite happy :D [13:19] dustybin: since the paths to /var/www/ are actually defined in the config file you can put them where ever you want. [13:19] yep [13:19] KaMii: I rarely even use the menu.. who needs all the crap in there? if anything, learn what they are and type it out [13:19] thanks Roin thats all I wanted! :D a nice easy way to complete a task... work smarter not harder people [13:19] sleekslack (~umislack@58.64.89.116) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:19] dustybin: and we're telling you to shut up and change it, since you can, or shut up and do nothing. [13:20] aye ok [13:20] slackware has done a clever thing: [13:20] root@server:/srv# ls httpd -al [13:20] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 May 30 21:05 httpd -> /var/www [13:21] raela: if thats your perogative, good for you.... geez, you ask a question in here how to do something, all you get in return is a bunch of flamers and trolls [13:21] revel0__ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~ [13:21] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) joined ##slackware. [13:21] But we're lovable flamers and trolls! [13:21] KaMii: you sound like a troll to me [13:21] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [13:21] dustybin: symlinks are clever? oh dear... [13:21] KaMii: it seems like anytime you come in here, it's bitching about something you're doing wrong that you can't figure out [13:21] i have a different definition of love [13:21] a flaming troll [13:21] flaming 'eck [13:21] no its asking how to do something [13:22] and i never get a strait answer [13:22] dustybin: Since you like to quote the FHS: "The methodology used to name subdirectories of /srv is unspecified as there is currently no consensus on how this should be done". So symlinks to somewhere are pretty much within the scope of that and "Therefore, no program should rely on a specific subdirectory structure of /srv existing or data necessarily being stored in /srv" [13:22] Action: xsamurai points KaMii to #ubuntu [13:22] Thus one can only conclude since slackware for a while now has shipped with a /srv directory it is pretty well within the scope of the FHS. [13:22] your answer raela is to always just avoid whatever Im trying to do [13:22] xsamurai: i will never use that crap [13:22] BP{k}: aye indeed [13:22] its point and click [13:22] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@2001:470:d81f:1401:21f:3bff:fe4a:cccd) joined ##slackware. [13:22] you dont need to think or bitch in here [13:22] i come in here to try and learn, to ask questions [13:23] nickstolen (~insula@b4mad.info) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:23] KaMii: to be annoying. [13:23] and i rarely get strait answers from you [13:23] no, im asking because i cant figure it out [13:23] hmmm, ask questions you say!, you classified us as trolls [13:23] you were being trolls, telling me to just abandon what im wanting to do [13:23] KaMii: I figured it out as well since http://www.gidf.de helped me a lot ^_^ [13:23] yesterday you came in complaining KDE sucked, so we said to switch and got you past your "sound doesn't work in anything" issue [13:23] you avioded the question [13:23] first thing you said was how "we" told you to switch to kde, blah blah blah [13:24] and I never said KDE sucked i said it was buggy [13:24] I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition! [13:24] neither did i [13:24] rob0: NOBODY EXPECTS etc [13:24] but everytime raela i in here, i get it [13:24] raela: just do me a favor and put me on ignore please [13:24] Cardinal, fetch the comfy chair. [13:25] and yet, so many other people come in here and have no issues.. maybe the problem is you :) [13:25] i dont need your BS [13:25] KaMii: do EVERYONE a favour, and leave the channel [13:25] rob0: man, you should've came to SELF :P [13:25] raela, I know :( [13:25] i swear you guys are 12 year old boys [13:25] http://www.redfin.com/CA/Malibu/22338-Pacific-Coast-Hwy-90265/home/6853127 i'm putting in an offer today [13:25] Action: rob0 couldn't afford the trip [13:25] i wish [13:25] KaMii: ohhh snap, not this argument again.. "I am so mature and I'm like half your age wah wah" [13:25] sadman_ (~sadman@en-pc243.htwg-konstanz.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:26] i never said i was mature.... [13:26] i said your acting 12 [13:26] aww, that's a shame.. I managed to get 3 other people in a hotel room, so it ended up not being that bad [13:26] jeev: you best be slanging [13:26] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:26] KaMii: I'm not 12, but I have a son who's 13! [13:26] KaMii: clearly we're too immature for you, and you should do the mature thing and leave the channel [13:26] KaMii: you're. also, I can pull up logs for that.. because you come in here bitching all of the time [13:26] xsamurai :/ i wish.. $47 million dollar house on the beach [13:26] spook: cut it [13:26] jeev: buy an island [13:27] sorry, that asking a question on how to do something is called bitching [13:27] if you dont want to help, why are you in here? [13:27] KaMii: as to what you're doing now? [13:27] everytime i aske a question i get htis from you [13:27] KaMii (nebulae@91.90.30.50) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:27] KaMii: time to stop complaining, and get back on track [13:27] Good, leaving is an option too [13:27] :) [13:28] apache on slackware compared to apache on debian is _COMPLETELY_ different beyond belief, i feel like im using another web server [13:28] xsamurai, i wish [13:28] thank god for ubuntu [13:28] well yeah, distros do things their own ways.. [13:28] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:28] dustybin: apache httpd on slackware is the same as upstream. [13:28] dustybin: considering how each distro packages it? not surprising. [13:28] dustybin: apache httpd on debian is a monstruosity. [13:28] haha I knew thumbs would speak up about that :) [13:28] if ubuntu wasnt around you'd have a 1000 kiddies coming in and bitching about why such and such isnt working [13:29] rob0: I can't resist. [13:29] thumbs: i take it the offical apache guides will match my slackware install ? [13:29] dustybin: correct. [13:29] ace :D [13:29] thumbs uses debian and unbutuiti [13:30] ? [13:30] umm.. ok. [13:30] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [13:30] xsamurai, not really [13:31] xsamurai: nah you'd just have 1000 bans :P [13:31] in fact, the comparison between slackware and other distros applies to apache httpd. You learn slackware, you know unix. Your learn apache on slackware, you learn how upstream is. You learn 'apache2' on debian, you're only capable of administrating a debian server. [13:32] agree [13:32] i wonder how redhat version of apache compares? [13:32] dustybin: it's fairly sane, except for the welcome.conf file. [13:32] ok [13:33] xsamurai: to be honest slackware worked way better for me than other OS's (actually setting up Slackware isnt difficult using this alien wiki and the book) ._. [13:33] i can now safely read http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/ without worrying if something doesnt work :D [13:33] dustybin: you can. [13:33] xsamurai: even though I'm probably the normal desktop user and only use it as a Desktop OS -> <3 [13:35] yeah like everything its dependent on the person, my statement above is regarding the increase in ratio of ass clowns in the channel if ubuntu wasn't there [13:35] Action: xsamurai put on his brazil face paint , 1 more hour to go [13:36] Action: ut once tried to ask for help in #ubuntu, shudders [13:36] dustybin: lastly, 'apache' is really the name of the foundation. The name of the project is httpd, hence my insistance of using 'apache httpd' [13:38] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@168-103-63-219.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:38] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:39] sbs` (~mfd@CPE001ee57a9930-CM001a6683085e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [13:39] thumbs: good point. [13:41] do you guys run a firewall script on your slackbox? do i really need a firewall if my box is used by me only on my LAN [13:41] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@168-103-63-219.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:41] my router has a firewall [13:42] dustybin: you can, and it's trivial to set up a few rules. [13:42] i will look into it [13:43] could get something like firehol that sets it up for you.. or just get it, look at the iptables rules, then edit those as a starting point [13:43] loafy (~loafy@72.84.97.42) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:43] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:43] or.. lots of reading of iptables manpage [13:43] Not sure if thats a good recommendation but ufw would do it as well I think [13:44] jeev: you currently employed ? [13:45] xsamurai: http://twitter.com/thevuvuzelahorn [13:46] lol [13:46] i dare not look at twatter pages [13:47] I don't think I have seen a firewall script that was any good; usually an attempt to show off bash coding skills backed up by little actual understanding of iptables. [13:47] I'm looking for a media player like foobar2000 on windows, i've got amarok but it has feature bloat, and i have audacious but it has no media library. Any recommendations? [13:47] deadbeef looks like foobar2k [13:47] xsamurai: basically its a twatter full of "ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ" [13:48] xsamurai.. employed by myself [13:49] that means unemployed [13:49] jeev: fonality in culver city is hiring , they have two linux sys ad positions , one is senior , let me know if your interested [13:49] i'll try that sahko [13:49] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:50] i used to use this on debian [13:50] http://rocky.eld.leidenuniv.nl/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=45:iptables-firewall&catid=17:content&Itemid=63 [13:50] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:51] what would be the normal way to find out if a package is installed, say amrnb? [13:51] wow, they found $1,000,000,000,000+ worth of minerals in afghanistan [13:51] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-zrikpqvqkslfpolx) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:51] thanks xsamurai, my voip stops short of bitching about nat issues.. although i have quite a few voip customers.. i enjoy working for myself and farting outloud wherever i am [13:52] v4nelle (~van@79.107.195.29) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:52] actually thats the stated amount , no the actual amount which is a bit larger [13:52] jeev: np =) [13:52] panzer (~death@unaffiliated/panzer) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:52] theres opium more worth than that there [13:53] unless it counts as mineral [13:53] i hope afghanistan grows some balls and pushes out the US military but.. [13:53] it needs US help to establish infrastructure now but.. [13:53] drugs will overtake it since americans love bringing it in [13:53] china is there as well and so is india [13:53] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:53] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D7B7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:53] i dont know what's going on there man [13:54] US goes , somebody else will come in, hence hillary went to china before the mining rights were signed over to them [13:54] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:54] typical what goes on every where else money [13:55] sbs` (~mfd@CPE001ee57a9930-CM001a6683085e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:55] btw it takes years to categorize and do the logistics for all the mining work [13:55] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [13:55] not when halliburton is there [13:55] you cant just fly a plane over and say we have x amount of mineral is there [13:55] christian (4d007a91@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.0.122.145) joined ##slackware. [13:56] lord :D [13:56] it takes a lot of pre planning and carpet bombing to clear the path [13:56] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/efg/ [13:56] alien seems to have all the missing bits :D [13:56] xsamurai: yeah, the carpet bombing being a bit faster than surface blasting [13:56] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:56] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:56] P4C0 (~paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [13:56] hello [13:57] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [13:57] hello [13:57] jeev: all in all, it was planned waaaaay back before [13:59] yea [13:59] dChr (~dchr@ppp091138243126.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[14:12] jeev: http://www.amazon.com/dp/0465027261?tag=permacultucom-20&camp=213761&creative=393545&linkCode=bpl&creativeASIN=0465027261&adid=04PR89H4FF295HBAD6P0& [14:13] its 5 days since the last time he joined before the previous 5 days were up [14:14] procyonlabs (~randy@pool-173-69-175-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:14] jlindsay (~none@c-71-228-171-33.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:14] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:15] why permanent? [14:18] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D7B7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:18] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-178-152.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:18] TVRGriff500 (~ciaranowe@92.11.28.254) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:18] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [14:18] v4nelle (~van@79.107.195.29) joined ##slackware. [14:19] BentoPUNK (~BentoPUNK@189.2.128.178) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:23] there is more to securing a box than just iptables [14:24] but... I've got a firewall. [14:24] Um, in fact I'd go a bit further. A good iptables ruleset does little if anything to protect an insecure system. [14:24] tcpwrappers needs securing [14:25] edit /etc/inetd.conf and make sure your not running services you dont need [14:25] what rob0 is saying that iptables won't protect you from a sql injection on your webserver [14:26] nixfreak (d872c45a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.114.196.90) joined ##slackware. [14:26] TVRGriff500 (~ciaranowe@92.6.209.50) joined ##slackware. [14:26] then all the services you do use need securing, like sshd [14:26] does anyone run slackware 13 on a eeepc with 4 gigs of space [14:26] procyonlabs (~randy@pool-173-69-175-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:27] what is /etc/issue for? [14:27] rahulrp (~rahul@p57B03453.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:28] how do i fix ext4 fs errors? [14:28] rahulrp: you fcsk the hell out of them [14:28] dustybin: man issue and see [14:29] has your fs ever been error-fsck'ed? [14:29] ace :D [14:30] can i run fsck on mounted partition? [14:30] I wouldn't [14:30] you can [14:30] the / is fscked! [14:30] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:30] aah fsck it [14:30] see if you can boot a livecd [14:30] or recovery [14:31] uh i put back together a laptop and i'm hearing a "tearing" noise every few minutes even with audio on mute, any idea's? [14:31] i have slack installable when i run fsck all it says is fsck (1) [14:31] jeev is ur mic muted? or line in [14:31] you can to go runlevel 1 remount root ro and then run fsck [14:31] sounds like a bad connection jeev [14:31] nice read [14:31] http://paste.debian.net/77514/plain/77514 [14:32] what options should i pass, i think the man page is little confusinf for me [14:32] nixfreak: both I and Delahunt (who's not here ATM) have the 4G eeepc. Mine has 13.1, I think his does too. [14:33] Obviously you can't do a full install. [14:33] rob0: "Delahunt and I ..." [14:33] http://www.slackbook.org/html/security.html [14:33] Action: rahulrp will go to runlevel 1 and check and then come back... [14:33] rahulrp (rahul@p57B03453.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:33] rob0 is it fast on your eeepc and do you use kde I was thinking about using openbox of flux instead since KDE is a monster [14:34] rob0, 'both you and I' (want to punch people like thumbs in the face) [14:34] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:34] heh? [14:34] I cut out most of D and L, all of KDE, and some others. [14:34] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [14:35] rob0: "me 'n Delahunt over ther" [14:35] v4nelle (~van@79.107.195.29) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:35] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-34-223.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [14:35] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:35] I use XFCE when in X, which is adequate. I didn't ever try KDE. [14:36] KDE is bareable but mine has a 160gb drive [14:36] rob0: spend much time outside x? i think the pixels in the fonts would drive me mad. [14:36] thrice`: I only tease rob0 like this. [14:36] Kaapa (~Something@a95-93-240-222.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:36] oh, ok :> [14:37] The framebuffer console on the eeepc is pretty nice actually. I think it's 100x35. Can't remember what the boot param was for that. [14:38] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [14:38] v4nelle (~van@79.107.195.29) joined ##slackware. [14:38] Action: rob0 punches face in the thumbs [14:38] I felt that. [14:39] petera3 (~pa3@75-149-128-53-Connecticut.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [14:39] ulma (~ulma@p5DC921CE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:39] procyonlabs (~randy@pool-173-69-175-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:39] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:40] Kowalczyk (kowalczyk@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) joined ##slackware. [14:40] sorry rahul let me see [14:40] i dont want to open up t his laptop again man [14:40] Nick change: Yandertal -> Yandertal_away [14:40] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:40] Yandertal_away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [14:40] dChr (dchr@ppp091138243126.dsl.hol.gr) left ##slackware. [14:41] Yandertal (~Yandertal@unaffiliated/yandertal) joined ##slackware. [14:41] Kaapa (~Something@a95-93-240-222.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:41] ah the guy left eh [14:44] I have a usb-headset, it seems to be detected and i have set it in alsa. Only alsaconf does not detect it. [14:44] I don't hear any sound from it. What would be the next step in troubleshooting? [14:45] rob0 did you just dd the image file on to the root of a usb drive to install slack ? [14:45] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-34-223.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:46] frankendres (~frank@62.210.83-79.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] Nick change: frankendres -> LJS [14:46] Hi ! [14:46] Hm well in DeaDBeeF i can select the audio device to which i wish to output, however e.g. firefox does not allow this. So how can i make all programs use the same usb device for audio? [14:47] rob0 did you use ext2 or 3 ? [14:47] ipfreely (~munki@75.85.164.183) joined ##slackware. [14:49] SOUL_OF_R00T (~leo@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:50] Hi read something interesting about Salckware on distrowatch "http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20100614#news". Maybe I have something that could interest Eric Hameleers. [14:51] I have small scripts to build a Slackware live-CD from packages. [14:51] (or a DVD ISO) [14:52] Eric, are You here ? [14:52] procyonlabs (~randy@pool-173-69-175-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:52] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [14:52] You could make those available somewhere - on linuxquestions.org for instance, if you do not have your own server LJS [14:53] I have a server to host this, but this is not ready for production use [14:53] I think people would want a possibility to create a Slackware live CD for demo purposes [14:54] But my work could be an interesting start to develop such a DVD [14:55] I have scripts such since Slackware 9. [14:56] Are you using any kind of compression, or unionfs- alike constructs like slax does? [14:56] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [14:56] yes I use aufs and squashfs [14:56] I want to have a minimal set of dependencies [14:56] Mmmm [14:56] hello, gentlemen [14:56] I voted against any kernel dependent compiles. [14:56] Srill, could be interesting [14:56] an use syslinux (isolinux) shipped with slackware to boot [14:57] YEs that is what I want [14:57] No lilo, no grub, no added kernel modules [14:57] some days ago i read about a clipboard gtk2 application in lq.org that could be used with xfce, and i can't recall the thread or the app name; any ideas? [14:57] But I had to recompile kernel to support aufs [14:57] I know [14:57] But maybe there is a better workaround [14:57] rg3: parcelite? [14:57] Oh, Yes [14:58] Since aufs is never going to go into the kernel, I do not want to depend on it [14:58] I used a fuse based union filesystem [14:58] and it worked too [14:58] rg3: parcellite* [14:58] but slower if I remember [14:58] There will be a unionfs in the kernel soon but I have no idea how long _that_ will take [14:58] so had nokernel recompilation and module deps [14:58] LJS: slower is not a concern of mine [14:59] It is not meant for 8-hours a day work environments - I use Slackware for that [14:59] alkos333 (~alkos333@pool83.skokielibrary.info) joined ##slackware. [14:59] sahko: exactly, thank you very much :D [14:59] Speed is a concern for me because I want a full featured live system running from USB or CD/DVD, at good speed(for everyday use) [15:00] Then our goals differ :-) [15:00] Still, it would be interesting to have an alternative to linux-live [15:00] panzer (~death@static-host-74-205-128-104.epbinternet.com) joined ##slackware. [15:00] Yes, but my script can be adapted to support fuse unionfs [15:00] rahulrp (~rahul@p57B03453.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] panzer (~death@static-host-74-205-128-104.epbinternet.com) left irc: Changing host [15:00] panzer (~death@unaffiliated/panzer) joined ##slackware. [15:01] Yes, it is an alternative to linux live (I studyed their script a long time ago) [15:01] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [15:01] i did the fsck after init1 and it corrected some stuff, rebooted and back here, i still get a huge list of libraries with broken locale error [15:02] To build a live DVD or USB, I just need the ISO, and run some (2-4) scripts [15:03] I would take me a little time to build more professionnal (quality) tools, for everyone's use [15:03] rahulrp (rahul@p57B03453.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware. [15:03] incognitus (~neam@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [15:04] But if You are interested, AlienBOB, I can do this [15:04] hi all [15:04] i need help with bluetooth and blueman [15:04] i can sent files to my handy [15:05] i cant [15:05] AlienBOB: I can show You what I have, d You can Tell me what You think about it, to give me some directions of what You want. [15:05] root_ (~root@188.34.67.246) joined ##slackware. [15:05] root_ (~root@188.34.67.246) left irc: Client Quit [15:05] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.55.64) joined ##slackware. [15:07] rahulrp (~rahul@p57B03453.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:07] v4nelle (~van@79.107.195.29) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:08] alkos333 (~alkos333@pool83.skokielibrary.info) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:08] here is what i get when i login, any solution ? http://pastebin.com/fysrZbu0 [15:09] zzzzzzzzz [15:10] leontopod (~leontopod@intertwingled.net) joined ##slackware. [15:10] how do I turn off port 6000 in X [15:10] I know I can do it with startx [15:10] startx -- -tcp nolisten I guess [15:11] but there is somewhere else I can put it [15:11] rahulrp: vuvuzuler, bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz [15:11] thanks spook , but dat did not help :( [15:11] Action: adaptr kills some more vuvuzuela's [15:12] rahulrp: you started it [15:13] I have something better than a vuvuzuler [15:13] I have a freaking air horn! [15:13] AlienBOB: for now I have a script to install packages from a list, and a script to build a system, then make an ISO or install it, on USB [15:14] quite simple, just 3 commands, and a package selection [15:14] we had some vuvuzuelas at the roller derby tournament in adelaide [15:15] as a referee i mandated that beer was drunk from them [15:15] anybody know what file crontab -l entries are written to? [15:15] actually i could chmod [15:15] chroot i mean [15:15] the script that install packages could be a installpkg -root ... .../slackware/*/*/t?z too [15:15] crontab -l writes to stdout ... you mean, where are the crontab files kept? [15:16] /var/spool/cron/ iirc [15:16] dustybin: crontab -e /var/run or spool somewhere. [15:18] hmmm [15:18] hey alienBOB can you please help me with this, i get this error when i log in to the system, both as root and normal user http://pastebin.com/fysrZbu0 [15:19] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) left irc: Quit: mosno [15:22] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.227) joined ##slackware. [15:23] wow, the new xfce taskmanager: http://is.gd/cQyuV [15:23] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [15:23] rahulrp: that's not an error; that's a bunch of library files munged together. [15:24] Greetings Programs! [15:24] filenames, I mean [15:24] yes but i get that message ut , when i enter username and password on login screen and i login into my system. which is unusual [15:24] well, what comes before that? [15:24] crocket (crocket@121.168.91.143) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:24] it doesn't look like the entire message [15:24] AlienBOB: fuse-unionfs compiled. Looking for the right options to make the union [15:25] rahulrp, i took the top off of the laptop, unplugged each speaker one by one and they both make the noise. [15:25] i think the sound card or something is messed [15:25] i cannot scoll up that far ut [15:25] sahko: looks nice indeed [15:26] jeev, have u muted ur mics? [15:26] rahulrp, strupid windows aint letting me. you think something is contacting it ? [15:26] i ran a flathead on the screen and gashed it, i dont care i'm not fixing the screen [15:26] piece of shit laptop [15:26] LJS: at this moment I do not have the time anyway to work it out. And anyway, I would likely not peek at your script until I had something of my own, to get a clean uninfluenced script. I *did* look at linux-live and did not like the complexity [15:28] rahulrp: looks like perhaps your /etc/motd or /etc/issue are overwritten with bogus text? Never seen something like it, but I guess _you_ know what you changed right before you saw it for the first time [15:28] i had a filesystem crash because i was running a compile and was taking a snapshot on virtualbox, running ktorrent and ran out of free space [15:29] alienBOB, how do i reset /etc/motd and /etc/issue, [15:30] Just make them empty [15:30] should rm /etc/motd work? [15:31] to me /etc/issue seems ok, cause it says welcome to .... [15:31] I said... Just make them empty. NOt, "remove them" [15:31] What is the motd content? Does it look OK? [15:32] how do you make vim autodetect the prog language the file so that its more markup friendly? [15:32] ipfreely (~munki@75.85.164.183) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:32] less /etc/motd > "/etc/motd" may be a binary file. See it anyway? [15:32] in slackware vim is not set to do so it seems.... [15:32] sorry but do i empty the files [15:33] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:34] got it :) [15:35] gotta log out and log in to check L) [15:36] rahulrp (rahul@p57B03453.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("'$ME is happy'"). [15:45] my /etc/issue says: Welcome to ZX Spectum 48k [15:45] one needs to trick the hackers :D [15:45] alienBOB: understood. I am working on it, and I will put it on my host. If You want, I can send You an e-mail when it is ready, just mail me at frankendres at tuxfamily dot org so I can have Your e-mail. I can come back here if You prefer too. I will try to make things simple, not intrusive (the live CD/DVD/USB will be just a regular Slackware), and without aufs dependency; the only needed dependencies will be squashfs-tools and unionfs-fuse. S [15:46] ipfreely (~munki@75.85.164.183) joined ##slackware. [15:46] Howdy folks! [15:46] hi Alan_Hicks [15:46] My google-fu seems to be shot, so I'm resorting to ##slackware. :^) [15:46] arcfide (1000@140-182-232-130.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:47] I have multiple log files all managed by syslog, and I need logrotate to rotate each of them based on different criteria. Additionally, I would like to only HUP syslodg once. Any suggestions or good qebsites to read? [15:47] hi Alan_Hicks [15:47] that's what people like to hear before helping, that they're a last resort :) [15:48] lol [15:48] mancha: Well, this channel wouldn't be my last resort, but you're here, so.... :-) [15:48] Action: mancha saves the answer back in the file.. [15:49] Alan_Hicks: I cant think of anything but running multiple syslog daemons for your condition [15:49] I'd rather HUP syslogd twice instead. [15:50] you just said once [15:50] haha [15:50] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) joined ##slackware. [15:50] Yeah, but that's still preferable to maintaining multiple syslogs. [15:51] Particularly as regards /dev/log. [15:52] shouldnt be that complicated to setup different configs as shown in 'man logrotate' [15:53] you can specify term , size and postrotate commands [15:53] ipfreely: Yes, but if the block that handles HUP'ing syslogd only runs weekly and you need it HUP'd daily by another config file, you will HUP it twice a day once a week. [15:54] Pam is off limits in slackware ? [15:54] you can install it if you like :) [15:54] nix, not off limits, just not officially provided [15:55] nixfreak: More or less, yes. It isn't included in Slackware, but you can install it. 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[16:14] :P [16:17] Question: If they're kicked, do they get the message as to why? [16:17] Yes [16:17] only if you give them a message [16:17] or the bot has a default message [16:17] Thank you both. (Shows you how much I know about IRC...) [16:18] Hoogin (~hoogin@195-50-219-246-rdsl.est.estpak.ee) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:19] v4nelle (~van@79.107.195.29) joined ##slackware. [16:22] Nick change: bgs100 -> bgs000 [16:23] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:26] does anyone know if x2go or tigervnc works for slack ? [16:27] nix, i am sure. tiger's just a fork of tight (since wat the word needs is more vnc forks) and tight works fine in slack. [16:27] ack, *since what the world needs is more vnc forks [16:27] ulma (~ulma@p5DC921CE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:28] tiger uses nx libs [16:29] hey guys i am trying to install imlib2 for 13.1, by running the slackbuild i get "Slackware package /tmp/imlib2-1.4.2-i486-2_SBo.tgz created." but when i try to install this package by slackpkg install i get the message "No packages match the pattern for install" [16:29] ? [16:29] just installpkg /tmp/imlib2-1.4.2-i486-2_SBo.tgz [16:30] i didn't realize it used an nx protocol, i assumed with teh "vnc" mokier it used rfb [16:31] ah mancha i confound the commands, thanks [16:31] cool ulma [16:33] guys,thunar-vfs-1 is on xfce package? [16:33] yes [16:33] thx :) [16:34] yeah tigervnc uses the nx libs so does X2go [16:35] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [16:36] asarch (~asarch@187.132.136.54) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:36] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@2001:470:d81f:1401:21f:3bff:fe4a:cccd) joined ##slackware. [16:38] why the heck doesnt rsnapshot exclude dirs [16:38] r0ger (~sixx@212.183.140.60) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:38] im using the exact same config what was in my debian install [16:38] strange. [16:40] found it http://github.com/PhantomX/slackbuilds/tree/master/tigervnc/ [16:40] looks like everyone has slackbuild tree [16:40] v4nelle (~van@79.107.195.29) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:40] to bad you can mirror all those site together and form a massive list and query that no slackbuilds [16:41] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [16:41] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:43] I think that's call an 'internet search'... [16:43] :) [16:44] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:45] flrichar (~toril@gfp.geexology.org) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:46] Alabarda (~david@189.11.214.34) joined ##slackware. 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[17:29] or should one protect each box on the LAN with firewall rules [17:29] or do both [17:33] ulma (~ulma@p5DC921CE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:33] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:34] ke7xt (~plutt@a-129-196-228-125.ext.fluke.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:35] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [17:35] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:36] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@2001:470:d81f:1401:21f:3bff:fe4a:cccd) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [17:37] i'm trying to build xbmc but i get this error checking for main in -lGL... no [17:37] are you missing the openGL libs ? [17:38] did you read the deps in the README ? [17:38] adaptr: i installed all the deps , i don't know about openGL [17:38] that's what it is complaining about [17:38] hmmmm i heard it could be something to do with the nvidia driver [17:39] where did you get the slackbuild ? [17:39] if it is a slackbuild [17:39] yes the nvidia binary driver comes with its own (hardware-accelerated) opengl driver [17:40] adaptr: slackbuilds.org [17:40] however, opengl is opengl - if xbmc needs headers, try installing mesa (software opengl) [17:40] i have mesa installed [17:40] not sure if the nvidia gl.os comes with build headers [17:40] *gl.so [17:40] or if he has an nvidia card install the nvidia kernel mod and driver [17:41] i also tried removing the nvidia drivers /kernel module [17:41] um.. I was more or less assuming he had, since he's talking about it [17:41] and it still fails [17:41] Oh [17:41] Well if he installed them he should have the needed libs [17:41] Action: Roin guesses he is thinking wrong now [17:43] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [17:44] okay it's compiling now yay. i reinstalled mesa , i guess it was corrupted i had a bad dvd [17:45] estranho (~estranho@li115-62.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [17:45] estranho (~estranho@li115-62.members.linode.com) left irc: Changing host [17:45] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [17:45] excellent! [17:45] the nvidia driver overwrites files from mesa [17:47] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:47] header files ? bad.. [17:48] you can choose not to install those headers [17:48] adaptr: .so files [17:49] or , i dont know, pprkut is the expert [17:49] both :) [17:50] ah it has to compile the wrapper for the kernel driver, yes ? so it needs some headers [17:50] uhm, no [17:51] the headers overwritten have nothing to do with the kernel driver [17:51] aargh then why does it ?!? [17:51] yes, hair-pulling [17:52] I thought the .run was defanged and installed in a tmp dir [17:52] so any bad replacements can be weeded out [17:53] Action: rob0 is a bad replacement [17:53] use the sbo scripts if you care about those filees [17:53] unfortunately not weeded out, tho [17:54] pnq (asdf@AC821136.ipt.aol.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:57] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:00] Herman (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:01] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-7-103.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[19:33] i didnt know you could install series' of sbopkg's lke that,. good to kno [19:33] does it respect the order? [19:33] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:34] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.73.86) joined ##slackware. [19:34] oh, no, you cant, just wishful thinking ;) [19:34] spartanVI (~spartan@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:34] why not? [19:34] dartmouth: I cheated, I used the CUI [19:36] pim_ (1000@slacker.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [19:37] Nick change: bgs000 -> bgs100 [19:37] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:39] thrice`, you can? i thought sbopkg was a 'one package at a time' thing [19:39] rob0 you around? [19:39] dartmouth, sure :) check its (short) man page [19:40] sbopkg -i "foo bar" [19:40] http://sbopkg.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/tools/sbopkg8.html [19:40] see the "-i" section that adaptr showed above (with his missing quotes :> ) [19:40] thrice`: nice, thanks [19:40] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [19:46] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [19:48] rafu (slackrunn@77.53.11.107) left ##slackware. [19:48] pedram (~pedram@85.133.205.38) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:49] thrice`, what i didn't see in the manpage was, if i run 'sbopkg -r' and modify the slackbuild of a package i downloaded, will the -i switch for that app when i install it use the rsynced copy of the slackbuild i edited or will it download a new one? [19:50] taopunk_m (~taopunk@166.137.14.216) left irc: Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi [19:50] dartmouth, I don't think -i will re-sync, so if you edit, it'll use that; of course, it'll be lost when you re-sync [19:50] thrice`, kk [19:52] also can someone at sbopkg fix the wording to say 'remote' and 'local' instead of 'original' and 'whatever' in its displays when referring to 'which slackbuild file' will be used? [19:52] uh.. so emailed a sbopkg dev [19:52] j0z_ (unix@201.22.35.211.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:52] j0z_ (unix@201.22.35.211.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [19:52] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [19:52] not say it in here [19:52] have i ever done that? [19:54] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [19:54] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Client Quit [19:54] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:54] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [19:54] mina86 (mina86@82.146.225.27) left ##slackware. [19:54] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Client Quit [19:56] cybErpunk (davi@189.4.117.181) joined ##slackware. [19:56] cybErpunk (davi@189.4.117.181) left irc: Changing host [19:56] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [19:57] Action: dartmouth doesn't like that xbmc requires avahi [19:57] it nevah! [19:58] xbmc doesn't require avahi [19:58] I don't have that abomination! it's an ABOMIONATION [19:58] ABBIMONNIMOMIO [19:58] NATION [19:58] ugleee [19:58] and mostly for people who can't be arsed to configure a network properly [19:59] i installed it anyway [19:59] i just didn't like to [19:59] where is python2.6/site-packages on 13.1 ? in /lib or /usr/lib? [20:00] mancha: /usr/lib* [20:00] interesting... thanks [20:00] also, do you have a file libgomp.* in your 13.1/? grep "libgomp" /var/log/packages/* [20:00] i dont understand the python stuff. at all. [20:02] mancha, i have libgomp.so-et-al in /usr/lib [20:02] Pumpkins1979 (~abmj@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) joined ##slackware. [20:02] nothing in the /var/log/packages though [20:02] so how'd it get there? [20:02] Nick change: j0z_ -> j0z [20:03] /var/log/packages/gcc-4.4.4-x86_64-1:usr/lib64/libgomp.so.1.0.0 [20:03] well it was either on there from the installation, or some miscellaneous package built it there [20:03] fail-whale [20:03] or it was part of gcc [20:03] lol [20:03] sonafabitch [20:03] fail? wtf would know that man? [20:03] ;) [20:03] so its in gcc-4.4.4 eh... [20:04] wharncliffe (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:04] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [20:06] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:07] Nick change: bgs100 -> bgs000 [20:07] sinuhe (~sinuhe@199.227.49.182) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:08] dartmouth: if you edit the SlackBuild through the dialog interface you won't have any problems. If you edit it otherwise, save it as foo.SlackBuild.sbopkg and it won't be lost with an rsync [20:08] tuvok302Lappy (tuvok302@clgrtnt3-port-254.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:09] slakmagik, so the slackbuild i edited after running sbopkg -r got overwritten when i ran sbopkg -i? [20:09] thanks thrice [20:09] dartmouth: no, but if it doesn't have the .sbopkg extension, it will when you rsync [20:09] oh [20:09] yeah thats fine [20:09] blaines (~blaines@71-223-168-253.phnx.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] btw, if you're interested in building a sequence of apps, there's queuefiles for that, though the '-i "foo bar baz"' method works, too [20:11] actually, on second thought, it may well have been clobbered with -i. I know we re-extract the tarball, but I forget when. [20:11] slakmagik, at some point, my addons to work with addons to work with addons just overcomplicates things ... [20:12] what addons do you mean? [20:12] the ones i made up when i crafted that sentence [20:12] OffPlanet (~meler@adsl-68-127-116-209.dsl.frsn02.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.74.80.64) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [20:14] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org expired. [20:14] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [20:14] Guest45780 (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [20:14] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [20:14] Guest45780 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: You seem to know exactly how far to push things before leaving the channel, which tells me that you deserve a ban anyway. Five days. Stop being such a drama queen. [20:14] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [20:15] jeez, that ban message is harsh. one of our ops is an *******. [20:16] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [20:16] yeah, it looks like we extract when checking the sigs and do that through process_queue() so, yeah, you're better off making it .sbopkg immediately. [20:17] oh, and I'm going to shut up now - there's #sbopkg if you have more questions ;) [20:17] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [20:18] dartmouth, you have to know the other side before saying its a harsh message :) [20:19] alisonken1home, LOL do you -seriously- deny that at least one of our ops is an *******? (lol) [20:19] The above ban reason message looks familiar. [20:19] what, are you afraid of typing things out? weak [20:20] Action: NaCl wants suggestions for a VM to use [20:20] slakmagik, oh jeez, i have to redownload this package :/ [20:20] slakmagik, so there's no way to just edit the slackbuild file directly in the repo? [20:20] e.g. not use sbopkg [20:21] NaCl, vbox-ose, slackbuilds.org [20:21] well, if you don't use sbopkg, of course you can edit it any way you want. I'm saying that, if you do edit it and intend to run it with sbopkg, it needs to have an .sbopkg extension is all. [20:21] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:22] another one? [20:22] And why should I use vbox over kvm? [20:22] slakmagik, well, the slackbuild script has this line "[ "${EXT_FFMPEG:-no}" == "yes" ] && ENABLE_OPTS="$ENABLE_OPTS --enable-external-ffmpeg"" which if thats what i think it is, detects the right options based on installed system packages? [20:22] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:22] panzer (~death@unaffiliated/panzer) left irc: [20:23] yeah, but that you don't need to edit at all - just either pass the option in on the command line or use the dialog interface at 'Options' [20:23] j0z (unix@200.146.6.82.dynamic.dialup.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:23] j0z (unix@200.146.6.82.dynamic.dialup.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [20:23] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [20:23] NaCl, vbox is the only one I'm familiar. It's not the true hypervisor, or what not, others might be. Easy to use, comes with GUI app. [20:24] and, no, it's not installed system packages unless there's more in the script itself - that you quote is just looking for how the variable is set [20:25] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:26] I'm having some issues with the intel driver in Slack 13.1, can anyone help? [20:26] maybe :> [20:26] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:27] I'll try and pastebin the err [20:27] ipfreely (~munki@75.85.164.183) joined ##slackware. [20:27] dartmouth, no :) we do have at least one op who does whats needed - even being ****** [20:28] asterisk asterisk asterisk asterisk asterisk asterisk? [20:28] ok - i am baffled. [20:28] NaCl, at least in our testing, kvm isn't quite ready for our use in the noc [20:28] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:28] Razec (~razec@187.34.22.143) joined ##slackware. [20:28] noc? [20:29] server room [20:29] or "multiple server rooms" in our case [20:29] network operations center [20:29] ah [20:29] oh.. that explains the nick [20:29] what do you use instead? [20:29] yeah [20:30] I think it's vbox - the only thing I'm sure of is we use "vserver " [20:32] xdoctor (~bla@201008041246.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [20:32] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:33] I'm back, and this is the err X11 throws at me when I use the intel driver: http://pastebin.com/Hq534Hgv [20:33] jennifur, ok, you're trying to use the huge kernel, I'm guessing? [20:34] yeah, i just hit install everything and let it do it's thing [20:34] you didn't do *anything* to the kernels ? which are you actually on, huge ? hugesmp? [20:34] nope, installed, and ran xorgsetup. that is it [20:35] you don't need to run xorgsetup , but the issue is that you don't have KMS for some reason [20:36] what should i do? [20:36] what does "ls -l /boot/vmlinuz" show ? [20:37] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:37] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 2010-06-14 15:12 /boot/vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-huge-smp-2.6.33.4-smp [20:38] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [20:38] you really should switch to the generic-smp kernel, but I fear that might be too challenging for your [20:38] the vesa framebuffer xorg.conf works by the way. that is what i'm using right now [20:38] your * [20:38] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [20:38] huge shouldn't call this issue though, right? [20:38] Hi folks. I have some flash files (mp4 and flv) that I want to extract the audios and convert it to mp3, how can I do that? [20:39] no, i fear that huge is actually booted instead of hugesmp ? [20:39] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:39] ahh. jennifur, what's in /etc/lilo.conf.. pastebin it? [20:40] http://pastebin.com/u0d3PY8m [20:41] like i said, this is a fresh install, i've haven't done anything to this install yet [20:41] dive|bsd (~dive@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [20:43] well, I really don't know.. maybe switching to generic would help [20:43] sorry to intrude in thrice`s great dicktective work [20:44] but what is the exact problem jennifur [20:44] I can't start X11 using the intel driver. The vesa driver works just fine though. [20:44] what kind of card do you have ? [20:44] its a i845G [20:45] jennifur, intel *depends* on KMS to be active, your kernel isn't loading it for some reason [20:45] kernel_kms_helper is loaded [20:45] i doubt huge would have that problem [20:45] jennifur: when you start x with the intel driver what error do you see ? [20:46] ipfreely, the one pastebin'd above :) [20:46] also, this is the output of lsmod http://debian.pastebin.com/zDt3J3km [20:46] debian?!? [20:46] spy [20:46] only kms thing I have loaded is drm_kms_helper, using i915 here [20:47] dive|bsd: did you do the default partition settings? [20:47] Anyone? :( [20:48] riza: have you bothered googling ? [20:48] look up ffmpeg [20:48] jeezamus [20:48] tuvok302Lappy (tuvok302@clgrtnt3-port-254.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:49] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:49] spartanVI (~spartan@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:50] jennifur: ls -l /var/log/packages/kernel-* [20:50] paste the output [20:50] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [20:50] ipfreely: http://debian.pastebin.com/5S8ZsM7p [20:51] debian? [20:51] spy! [20:51] i was browsing pastebin [20:51] you do find a lot of nice/funny things [20:53] Nick change: bgs000 -> bgs100 [20:53] odd [20:54] jennifur: ls -hl /lib/modules/2.6.33.4-smp/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko [20:54] taopunk (~taopunk@c-24-126-240-213.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:54] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 343K 2010-05-12 22:42 /lib/modules/2.6.33.4-smp/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko [20:55] ok - jennifur, what's the problem? it's time for the big boys to take over... [20:55] Fresh install of 13.1, X11 won't start using the intel driver. [20:55] anyone ever install slackware from within slackware? [20:56] mancha: http://pastebin.com/Hq534Hgv [20:56] grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log -> pastebin [20:56] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [20:56] mancha: the link I just gave should be the full log [20:57] j0z (unix@201.22.22.184.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:57] j0z (unix@201.22.22.184.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [20:57] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [20:57] raela, thats's jennifur's log? [20:57] yes [20:57] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-79-194.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:57] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:58] I'm not getting a very friendly output from blueman-manager when I launch it and as a result, it's pretty much useless: http://pastebin.com/Hy0JREsc [20:58] sounds to me like kernel modesettig needs to be turned on [20:58] i want to see lilo.conf and xorg.conf. make it happen. [20:58] lilo.conf http://pastebin.com/u0d3PY8m [20:58] and i'm using the vesa xorg.conf right now [20:58] haven't gotten the xorg.conf [20:58] jennifur, kill your xorg.conf and try ? [20:58] okay, brb then [20:58] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:59] padhu (~Padhu@175.40.15.85) left irc: Quit: Going to Office............ [20:59] raela how do you have all that? [20:59] maybe should try teaching that one about screen [20:59] mancha: I just scrolled up in this channel [20:59] cool! [21:01] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) left irc: Quit: ‚» [21:01] we're not getting the whole story! :) [21:02] yeah something is screwy [21:02] gonna be something stupid [21:02] like really on ubuntu [21:02] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [21:03] it looks like slackware 13.1 but something's not right... [21:03] this is the 'big boys' taking over? :p [21:03] oh.. I wonder if they did a full install [21:03] compiling xbmc with ffmpeg support: "checking for main in -lavcodec... no" [21:03] hey, i am waiting on info, and the person is gone [21:04] big boys are shootin' the shit while waiting [21:05] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:05] is that a typo for libavcodec? [21:05] i am also preoccupied hammering out my libgomp issue :) [21:05] no, thats the syntax on shared object inclusion [21:05] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [21:05] -lavcodec is good. [21:06] mancha, well i installed ffmpeg from the slackbuild and didn't see anything about it, im assuming thats the source of it not being found [21:06] do you have libavcodec in /usr/lib ? [21:06] something like /usr/lib/libavcode.so.blah... [21:07] it seems not [21:07] weird [21:07] so you're missing the so's which means the build you used was doobar [21:07] foobar even [21:07] grep libavcodec /var/log/packages/ffmpeg* [21:08] Action: dartmouth facepalms [21:08] or maybe grep libavcodec.so instead (to lower the SNR) [21:08] i missed the ffmpeg package in my dependency setup [21:09] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:09] I'm back [21:09] the Xorg log: http://pastebin.com/pJYNr9mJ [21:09] the /etc/X11/xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/h4j8QSDR [21:10] Pumpkins1979 (~abmj@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) left irc: Quit: Saindo [21:10] line 123 says the kernel mode setting module is not loaded [21:10] jennifur, have you tried withough any xorg.conf? [21:10] not yet [21:11] mv /etc/x11/xorg.conf /etc/x11/xorg.conf-disabled [21:11] then restart X [21:11] ack [21:11] mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-disabled [21:11] case helps :) [21:11] use t3h bash [21:12] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:12] mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf{,.backup} [21:12] iT aLWAYS hELPS [21:12] anyone ever use kvm to install slackware64 13.1 into an lvm volume because they were too lazy to upgrade from the last -current? [21:12] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:13] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-168-154.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:13] but.. if kms is not loaded, wouldn't that mean another xorg.conf wouldn't help? [21:13] nah, that xorg.conf is just fucked up [21:13] raela, remove xorg.conf - not replace [21:13] ditto for remove [21:13] let X sort it out rather than telling X what to do [21:13] yeah [21:14] regardless, the driver *depends* on KMS being usable [21:15] there is no user-mode code in the 2.11 driver from 13.1 [21:15] may have to look at the intel video package in extra/ [21:15] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:15] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [21:15] is there a way to get the log of what happens at boot? [21:15] dmesg [21:15] maybe it throws an error when it tries to get kms [21:15] ha^ [21:16] don't have my laptop fired up atm, I remember I had to backtrack the intel video driver from extra/ to get it to work properly [21:16] but that was with -current a few months ago [21:16] ah. my laptop worked with it without anything special [21:16] i915 upgraded from 13.0 to 13.1 [21:16] my intel laptop functions, but 3d is screwy, and icons are screwed up. 2.12.0 just entered RC.\ [21:17] I just upgraded to 2.12 :> it requires a newer libdrm than in 13.1, though [21:17] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:17] same err [21:17] jennifur, do "dmesg > dmesg.log" and pastebin that [21:17] thrice`, cool...got a URL for compilation instructions? [21:17] or slackbuild. [21:17] dmesg | grep modesettig [21:17] dmesg | grep modesetting [21:18] mancha, won't return anything [21:18] arfon (~arfon@ppp-70-253-90-91.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:18] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:19] byteframe, I have my own slackbuild that checks out the git repo code and makes a package [21:19] thrice`, pretty please. [21:19] raela: http://pastebin.com/aciyGgLs [21:19] byteframe, http://github.com/abrouwers/ajb_slackbuilds/tree/master/xf86-video-intel/ [21:20] thrice`, cool stuff! thanks! [21:20] byteframe, again, won't work without bumping libdrm first :> but it's worth it, the improvements are huge in 2.12.x [21:20] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [21:21] thrice`, hopefully I can make it work, I was reading the gitweb of the driver today. [21:21] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:22] huh.. it didn't even try to load the intelfb, it seems [21:22] byteframe, if you just execute that slackbuild, it'll check out the code on its own in /tmp/SBo [21:22] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:22] thrice`, ok, I noticed the info has it set to 11.0. [21:23] check the blacklist to see if intelfb is blacklisted? [21:23] alicephilippa, intelfb is good right? [21:23] I would try booting a generic kernel (see /boot/README.initrd) first [21:24] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-79-194.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:24] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [21:24] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [21:24] jennifur, just to confirm, it's a full install too ? [21:25] thrice`: yes [21:25] jennifur, if you haven't already, you should pastebin `lspci -vv` [21:26] jennifur, this isn't in a VM or something, is it? [21:26] thrice`, got any tips for libdrm? [21:26] byteframe: http://pastebin.com/wAKywwxL [21:26] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) left irc: Quit: velusip [21:26] thrice`: nope, not in a VM [21:26] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:27] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-119-195.consolidated.net) joined ##slackware. [21:27] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [21:27] byteframe, you can probably steal it from here: http://connie.slackware.com/~rworkman/xorg-1.8/PACKAGES/ [21:27] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [21:27] thrice`, thanks again! [21:27] but, I wouldn't upgrade all of those, (unles you want to :> ) [21:27] I'll try to be careful.. [21:27] spartanVI (~spartan@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:29] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [21:29] jennifur: do you know how to switch to using the generic kernel? [21:29] not off-hand [21:29] when im passing variables to a slackbuild script through sbopkg, it gives me one line of text input-- is the syntax "VAR1=YES VAR2=YES VAR3=YES" or do i separate by commas, semicolons, anything? these|things? [21:30] dartmouth, export VAR2="doo" [21:30] darkrho, export VAR3="kee" [21:30] dartmouth, just spaces [21:31] you don't need to export though [21:31] raela: i don't really like using the stock kernel, so i usually just download the latest stable and compile that [21:31] VAR1=yes VAR2=no my-cool-script.sh [21:31] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [21:31] su -c "./massivelymassive.sh with=loads of=crap [21:31] I mean yeah...flip it [21:31] mancha, do i need to specify anything but the variables and their values? [21:31] no [21:31] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:32] "e.g. var1=yes ./bash-script.sh"? [21:32] yeah [21:32] jennifur: well, here's what I'm using.. I switched the symlinks to point to the vmlinuz-generic blah blah smp kernel http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/hqWaS434.html [21:32] but keep the e.g. out of your quotes haha [21:32] it depends on the executable status of the file [21:32] then also mkinitrd, make sure the kernel is 2.6.33.4-smp [21:33] the ./ is used in cases when the place you're temporarily living in is not part of dah pathz [21:34] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:34] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] asarch (~asarch@189.188.151.240) joined ##slackware. [21:35] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [21:36] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.169.65.216) joined ##slackware. [21:40] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.36.113) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:42] another drop-dead date for XP - October 22 2010 [21:42] lets see if this one sticks [21:44] Nick change: bgs100 -> bgs000 [21:44] they shoudln't be allowed to cancel support for operating systems while they're still functional [21:44] Nick change: bgs000 -> bgs100 [21:45] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [21:46] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:47] thrice`, You're the cat's pajama's. My icon rendering problems are gone. [21:47] m1ck3y (~mickey@c-68-40-206-140.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:48] hello all [21:49] Skywise, if that was the case, they would still be supporting win98 [21:49] or dos [21:50] lots of embedded and cnc systems are running dos [21:50] not everything needs all the clutter and bloat of win7 or vista [21:50] among other things [21:50] they should have never supported ME :P [21:50] s/supported/released/ [21:52] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488FDCF.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:52] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.27.118) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:52] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [21:53] Skywise: then ask pat to support slack 3.6 [21:53] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:54] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.22.243) joined ##slackware. [21:54] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [21:54] he does, new releases of slack, don't obsolete old versions [21:55] uhmm, slack 3.6 is obsolete, no longer maintained [21:56] goj (~goj@p4FE6AE4F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:56] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:56] in fact, good luck finding any major linux vendor/distro that would support a release older than 7 years. there aren't many [21:56] jgeboski (james@97.72.86.194) left ##slackware. [21:56] a release is just a kernel and packages [21:56] security patches [21:56] Skywise: just? that's the entire os [21:57] currently, security fixes are backported to slackware 8 - that's as far back as pat supports [21:57] slackware 3.6 is dead. [21:57] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:58] ananke, I still have my slackware 3.5 disk set - does that count as dead? :) [21:58] let's be honest. when it comes to longevity, ms has a very good record at keeping windows xp alive beyond the typical lifespan of operating systems in that category [21:58] lol by releasing os's no one would upgrade to :) [21:58] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [21:58] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:58] alisonken1home: keep looking at it. do the move? if not, they're dead :) [21:58] well, my point that you can run the same packages on the latest version as you ran on the old [21:58] not through lack of trying - only because some heavy hitters in their customer base demanded xp support this long, otherwise they would have killed xp several years ago [21:58] With the base that XP has they'd take more flak for EOL'ing it than the PITA it is to post patch [21:59] uva (as@111-240-220-124.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [21:59] Skywise: not when they're binary [21:59] ananke, well, it keeps showing up on odd spots of my desk in the back room :) [21:59] antiwire: bingo. [21:59] Action: ananke found some ibm fortran cds for rs6k today [21:59] I don't think it was ms's plan to keep supporting xp this long... [21:59] and the main reason xp is still alive is because MS pushed to have IE in the corporate environment - well, they got their wish [22:00] m1ck3y: of course it wasn't [22:00] but then it's only still alive cause 50+ percent of windows users won't "upgrade" [22:00] m1ck3y: you just said that 'no one would upgrade', now it's only '50+ percent'? [22:01] and thats because ms changed IE - and the corporate types had special hooks into their version of IE :) [22:01] why spend more money to keep doing what you're already doing [22:01] Look at the enterprise level installs that have 100+ seats running XP with software that is certified to run on XP and XP only. [22:01] I use the term "no one" to mean a whole spectrum of things :) I meant a ridiculously low number of people bought into vista or vista2 [22:02] goes back to MS standards and the way they did their hooks into making IE integrated into the system [22:02] m1ck3y: that i can agree with. vista wasn't that popular. thankfully, win7 is a bit better [22:02] emphasis on "bit" [22:02] ananke: definitely better, but ridiculous that it wasn't a "patch" I can't believe people dropped another $300 on it. [22:02] Skywise: uhmm, welcome to the real world. you have to keep spending money on a lot of things, to keep them running [22:03] not on slackware [22:03] m1ck3y: hardly anybody buys it at retail price [22:03] jennifur (~jennifur@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Changing server [22:03] Skywise: so you haven't maintained any slackware servers? [22:04] ? [22:04] Skywise: simple things like security patches and their application involves sysadmin time. that equals money [22:04] tuvok302Lappy (tuvok302@clgrtnt3-port-154.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] ananke: I'm aware of that, but it still seems insulting that they came out with a "new" os that does what the old one ought to have done and charged full dollar for it. 7 looks sweet and works fine for a windows box, but It still seems like a slap in the face. [22:04] oh, um thats a stretch [22:04] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [22:05] Skywise: what's a stretch? that man hours cost money? [22:05] man hours do have to be spent no matter what os servers run [22:05] seeing as thats what they're there for, its not really an expense [22:05] m1ck3y: of course. that was the entire point: spending money to keep something running is very normal [22:05] well, if it were easier to mantain, you'd need less people ;-) [22:05] davi` (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [22:06] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:06] Skywise: every minute that a sysadmin is spending maintaining something, is a minute he/she is spending on NOT doing something else. [22:06] and every minute of that time equals cost to the employer [22:06] like customer support? :) [22:06] yeah, but as long as they're doing something its ok, thats what they're paid to do [22:06] alisonken1home: or more importantly: not deploying new services [22:06] ananke: agreed, but man hours and hardware have to cost money, in this case, software doesn't. Just an extra cost, though relatively trivial in comparrison. [22:07] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:07] there is that aspect - need to test out new services before deployment [22:07] Skywise: see, you use the key word: 'paid'. which means there are costs involved [22:07] software is the major cost of sysadmin stuff - relative to hardware that is [22:07] no, just that they're employed [22:08] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:08] Skywise: so if they weren't employed, things would be taking care of themselves? [22:08] Grifulkin (~Ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:08] even taking out the upfront cost that most distros of linux has, the administration of software is still higher than the cost of the hardware [22:08] nope, the company would have to hire a service company [22:08] alisonken1home: To be perfectly honest, I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about. :P I'm just going to make a burrito and watch the "discussion" continue :) [22:09] service agreements make this industry go around [22:09] it doesn't cost they company any more per month [22:09] bingo. hardware, in most cases, is dirt cheap in comparison to human time [22:09] yeah so the colors in video playback in xbmc is wack. google was not helpful. [22:09] don't many corporate types that use linux run rhel anyway? [22:09] raela: or sles. [22:09] because they want to pay for the support [22:09] raela: but that doesn't solve the sysadmin issue. [22:10] raela, not all of them [22:10] raela: the support is not for deployment/managing those services. support is for problems [22:10] unless, of course, you purchase installation/integration/maintenance services. now those are a pretty penny [22:11] ah yeah.. okay, that makes sense [22:11] Someone still needs to interface with the service companies so most places keep at least a few people around who they call IT or MIS and they are the ones who deal with just keeping the infrastructure's ass covered. [22:11] Action: dartmouth verified that colors in video playback for the same videos are showing fine in xine [22:11] dartmouth: so use xine or bitch at xbms [22:11] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:12] Skywise: every minute that any of my sysadmins is spending on maintaining existing services is a minute he can't be deploying new things. scale that out, and you have multiple sysadmins. [22:12] but thats what you have them for [22:12] or in the case of last night for me - replacing a server that died [22:12] it would be like running thru stop lights because slowing down wears out your brakes [22:12] The paid for service agreements are there because companies look at them as cheap insurance policies. The IT department doesn't mind it because this way, they don't need to be a total guru of every single random technology that they have to manage [22:12] Skywise: reality is not that peachy. you have them for multiple things, not just maintenance. you're on the wrong side of this chicken and egg problem [22:13] Skywise: so you acknowledge that man hours cost money, and maintenance costs money. why would you say it doesn't? [22:13] antiwire, it's more of a case of the sysadmin has to be a jack-of-all, where the tech support call is for specialized problems [22:13] its not an expense [22:14] yeah [22:14] Skywise: it is an expense [22:14] merely existing costs' [22:14] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-237.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:14] Skywise, "existing cost" is a company expensee [22:14] Skywise: no such thing as existing costs [22:14] it's not a writeoff [22:14] it's called a sunk cost [22:14] yeah, there is, its a whole category of whats known as fixed expenses [22:14] antiwire: yeah, that's a more commonly accepted form [22:15] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org expired. [22:15] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [22:15] Guest45780 (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:15] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [22:15] these are expenses that you pay monthly no matter what [22:15] Guest45780 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: You seem to know exactly how far to push things before leaving the channel, which tells me that you deserve a ban anyway. Five days. Stop being such a drama queen. [22:15] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost [22:15] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [22:15] i'm kinda getting dired of this titan tango [22:15] Skywise, have you been through an accounting class yet? [22:15] then we can salsa instead [22:16] yeah, you have fixed and variable expenses, i can even do double entry accounting [22:16] then you should be familiar with GAAP terminology [22:17] since they're general, yes i would [22:18] Razec (~razec@187.34.22.143) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:18] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-144-42.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:18] at any rate, sysadmin time is an expense - and even the military (at least in the seabees) used accounting principles to keep track of maintenance jobs - which is what a sysadmin is doing [22:19] and from a company perspective, if the sysadmin is having to go back to work on updates, then the sysadmin is not working on improving the company product/services [22:20] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:20] If you are not making money you are costing money. [22:20] I wonder how many times Guest45780 will try to join. [22:20] he still has 2 more days if I counted correctly :) [22:20] thumbs: lol [22:21] and that dictates the decision to hire more sysadmins: because the existing ones can't keep up. [22:21] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:21] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.98.193.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [22:22] Action: m1ck3y continues eating burrito [22:22] updates are just part of the cost of doing business, like replacing failed hardware [22:22] byteframe, cool :) my upgrade is extremely noticable too [22:22] its a fixed recurring expense [22:22] koolblue3 (~koolblue3@4.228.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:23] actually, it depends on the update and how well it would integrate with your existing systems. plus most updates (security updates) are not on a timed release cycle [22:23] Skywise: so it is an expense. [22:24] some companies opt not to upgrade because its not cost effective and has risks [22:25] so does not upgrading. of course, it's an issue of proper research and risk assesment. but even that costs [22:26] and at the end of the day, it doesn't matter how you move money, from which pocket, you still get to part with it [22:26] koolblue3 (~koolblue3@4.228.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:27] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:28] hi ;) [22:29] Hi! [22:30] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [22:31] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:35] Grifulkin (~Ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:37] j0z (unix@189.58.27.248.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:37] j0z (unix@189.58.27.248.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [22:37] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. 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