[00:00] yep ;) but he is on irc ;) i dont know if his conneciton is bad and he is lagging [00:00] The-Croupier, doubt there's that kind of lag. [00:00] maybe he's in the space station [00:00] jeev: Sorry I'm trying different things, no its a simple ssh connection, ssh IP:port thats it. [00:00] maybe he had to run downstairs :-P [00:00] lf4, ping www.google.com [00:00] fhobia, what if he already IS downstairs and had to run upstairs? [00:00] lol [00:00] maybe he has a freaking elevator in his house ? [00:01] maybe he's got a girl there...keeping him distracted... [00:01] fhobia, doubt it. my beautiful girl is studying so im at home, trying to help fix someone's ssh troubles :/ [00:01] jeev: I can access the internet just fine. [00:01] lf4, telnet ip 22 [00:01] that worked [00:02] problem is I wanted to ssh-copy-id to the systems. [00:02] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:03] LF4: what do you want to do there.... what are your intentions [00:03] :) studying beautiful girls +1 [00:03] ssh username@publicIP:port keeps giving me that error. :/ I didn't configure putty to do anything special. [00:04] The-Croupier: I want to copy a file to all 34 systems with a simple script. [00:04] hope its not syntax error here [00:04] the port goes on the end like that ? [00:04] fhobia: Yes it does [00:04] damn [00:04] i thought i was going to be a hero [00:04] oh well [00:04] fhobia: check out "man ssh" [00:05] well, do you have legal access to them? [00:05] yes sir [00:05] lol [00:05] lol [00:05] The-Croupier: Yes I can access them with putty in my windows system just cant seem to get linux to access them. Both systems are on my desk currently. [00:06] lf4, how about ssh user@ip -p port [00:07] Agh! what the heck, jeev's could you explain how that worked but the other syntax (that normaly works) doesnt? [00:07] because yours isn't the right syntax? [00:08] jeev: Thanks :) That seemed to do it but I dont understand why. i've used IP:PORT in other systems and it worked just fine. [00:08] nowhere in man ssh does it say ip:port for connecting to [00:08] it's bind address and other shit [00:08] like listen [00:08] i have never seen ssh ip:port either [00:10] |Slacker| (~cris@189.116.62.17) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:10] humm... i do it often that way and it worked it's the same for creating a reverse ssh connection only you give the incoming port on the left side of the IP. [00:12] Nick change: agentc0re -> antic0re [00:14] you don't need to specify the port when you're connecting to the default [00:15] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-164-126.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:16] Skywise: I understand, the school changed the port number (for reasons I don't know). [00:17] brute forcers [00:17] maybe (~may_be@196.202.27.173) joined ##slackware. [00:18] Hello :) [00:18] jeev: but coudnt a simple scan show ssh services on the other port and then just brute force after that? [00:19] brute forcers dont bother on that [00:19] it's a lot more annoying to port scan every host then brute force. [00:20] ask thrice he has a big botnet that scans, he managed to get the mcdonalds register's that he gardens for to scan/brute force [00:22] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427439.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [00:22] Interesting :) [00:23] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-57.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [00:23] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:25] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:25] 13.1 is released? [00:27] almost [00:27] it's at RC1 right now [00:27] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [00:28] nice [00:28] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-119-195.consolidated.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:29] Srbo_ (~Srbo@93.86.17.51) joined ##slackware. [00:29] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [00:31] Srbo (~Srbo@93.86.17.51) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [00:32] user2438 (~user45925@adsl-76-235-37-216.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:34] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-57.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:45] rheault (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:46] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:47] hey, so it was syntax about the ssh problem? XD [00:51] LF4 (~ae7e42ff@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Quit: Page closed [00:51] yea [00:53] lf4 (~KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [00:54] ut oh [00:54] lf4 is back [00:54] o_o;;; [00:54] jeev: :P haha I had to restart the system [00:56] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:57] www.thedailygreen.com//cm/thedailygreen/images/Oi/deep-water-rig-infographic-world.jpg 3858 other oil wells in the gulf. damn, i didn't know there were more than a 100 worldwide. [00:57] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [00:57] there is SO much oil, shit [01:00] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401074458] [01:01] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:02] troy (~troy@CPE001b1169ec48-CM0011e6ede8d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:03] troy (~troy@CPE001b1169ec48-CM0011e6ede8d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [01:04] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [01:04] anyone uses gle here? [01:05] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:06] schoene (~mark@cpe-65-189-215-224.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:06] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:07] what's gle? [01:07] jeev: a while back i read that the land wells are less productive, and that until recently, we did not have the technology for deep sea drilling [01:09] http://www.wired.com/cars/energy/magazine/15-09/mf_jackrig [01:13] glx.sf.net [01:14] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:14] cellx (~cell_x@ip98-162-234-8.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:14] pi31415 (~rootabaga@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401074458] [01:17] Hostname: donjuan64 - OS: Linux 2.6.33.4/x86_64 - CPU: - Processes: 119 - Uptime: 23m - Load Average: 0.08 - Memory Usage: 339.29mb/2759.69mb (12.29%) - Disk Usage: 206.29gb/230.00gb (89.69%) [01:17] \o/ [01:17] my script is better.. [01:17] deep sea eh? [01:17] Hostname: naenia - OS: Linux 2.6.29.6-smp/i686 - CPU: 2 x AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual-Core QL-60 (1000.000 MHz) - Processes: 138 - Uptime: 11d 7h 42m - Load Average: 0.51 - Memory Usage: 598.09MB/2781.08MB (21.51%) - Disk Usage: 127.37GB/147.14GB (86.56%) - Vpenis: 145.5 cm; [01:18] go go vpenis [01:18] so more drilling will surely come out of this [01:18] i honestly dont have a problem with drilling but whoever says drill baby drill needs to die, asap [01:20] The-Croupier (Arbi_Goce@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. 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[01:40] chopp, i'm not talking bout richard simmons [01:40] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:41] wtf, whatever dude. [01:42] lol??? [01:43] you've drilled 200 holes in him [01:43] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [01:44] next trip to cali I'll be lookin you up, and drillin you. :P [01:44] ... [01:44] lol [01:48] maybe (~may_be@196.202.27.173) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:49] TriniTuX (~clayton@cuscon129335.tstt.net.tt) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:51] oh sweet, i cannot wait to upgrade to bsd-games-2.13-i486-10 [01:53] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:56] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:01] fhobia: good luck pat had an accident and there is no i486 version available [02:01] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:06] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [02:06] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [02:06] WildWizard: lol ? [02:07] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:07] try this and see :- ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-current/slackware/y/bsd-games-2.13-x86_64-10.txz [02:07] NB the path and file name [02:07] but i have 32-bit lol [02:08] NB ? [02:08] netbook? [02:08] lol [02:08] note well [02:08] oh [02:08] slackytude-sleep (~slacky@g227026233.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:09] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:18] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:20] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [02:24] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.34.212) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [02:24] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.34.212) joined ##slackware. [02:36] lem1 (~root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [02:36] lem (~root@86.81.102.210) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:39] Action: alphageek blinks [02:40] :3 [02:41] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [02:42] WildWizard: good catch [02:43] hmmmmmmmmm Loquat. [02:43] i didn't figure it out :( [02:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loquat heavenly [02:43] can you send some over? [02:44] i'd like to try some :3 [02:45] i think distrowatch should start reporting another statistic: average BAC of users, by distro [02:45] they wont let, it's too delicious [02:45] BAC ? [02:45] blood alcohol concentration [02:45] or content [02:46] mancha is going to help us get to #1 BAC distro? :3 [02:46] slackware rocks *hic* [02:46] Action: fhobia will start helping the ranking soon [02:46] mancha: to what point? seeing if the ballmer peak can be duplicated in linux? :) [02:47] ballmer peak ? [02:47] http://www.google.ca/search?q=ballmer+peak [02:47] you obviously don't follow xkcd :) [02:48] MoMo (~MoMo@ip70-181-252-58.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:48] alpha i chuckled a lot when that one came out [02:48] ditto [02:49] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:49] note the peak appears to be 0.1337 [02:49] woot? [02:49] i just installed slackware 13 -- and when it boots up .. there is a little rat looking thing in the upper left with a stap on beak .. waht is that? [02:49] endagered fucker with cancer [02:49] *endangered [02:49] fhobia, ever had a Date ? [02:49] MoMo: It's tux [02:50] http://www.hort.purdue.edu/ext/senior/fruits/images/large/date.jpg [02:50] taz [02:50] schoene (~mark@cpe-65-189-215-224.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:50] transmissible tumor [02:50] tasmainian devil [02:50] tuz, wuzn't it ? [02:50] trhodes, yes [02:51] wtf is a tuz lol -- [02:51] fuzzy wuzzy wuz a bear [02:51] yes, tuz, not taz. though i like to call him taz. [02:51] http://www.google.com.au/search?q=tasmanian+devil [02:52] just don't try and hand feed one [02:52] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:53] so it was done by linus in order to help bring awareness to the endangered speicies -- thats kinda cool i guess [02:53] freaked me out -- i knew something wasn't right [02:54] jeev: once maybe :) don't remember taste [02:54] cool [02:54] i don't get the penguin or the "strap on beak" :-( [02:54] but the console does switch over to framebuffer [02:55] lol i wanna see MacGruber [02:55] "i'm more of a 3 wire kind of guy" [02:55] in kde how do i bring up a terminal [02:55] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-199-16.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:56] look in the kde menu [02:56] if there are categories probably try system or something [02:56] konsole is what it is called [02:56] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [02:56] Applications -> System -> Konsole [02:57] or good ol' alt+F2 [02:57] mine is just called Terminal [02:57] there is another one though called Terminal emulator and i didn't like it [02:57] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [02:57] MoMo, Terminal is Xfce's terminal, not KDE's. KDE's terminal is called konsole. [02:57] If you mouse over and don't slick it comes up with konsole [02:57] slick/click [02:58] right [02:58] does kde have a "run appication" menu item? [02:58] yes ... Computer -> Run Command [02:58] run xterm then [02:59] looks as dull as it always did [02:59] Action: fhobia customized the heck out of rxvt-unicode [03:01] Hi. There is this Webmail addon for Firefox (allows you to read Yahoo! mail, which doesn't provide POP3). It works as a locahost POP server. I wanted to know if the locahost server communicates encrypted with yahoo server and seems it uses just TLSv1 [03:01] just letting you know [03:02] in the gui where would i look to see if my wireless laptop card is working / configure the password [03:02] MoMo some of these things you ask about are not set up outta the box [03:03] mancha: i'm realizing this -- but eager to learn [03:03] i'm thinking i need to modprobe a driver [03:03] i think KDE has kwifimanager or summit and there's wicdwhich is nice [03:03] but i don't know how to tell if i need to do it [03:03] lsmod will show the loaded modules [03:03] what card do you have? [03:04] i don't know its a gateway model W322 [03:04] lspci will tell you [03:05] john_dee (~id@95-29-180-98.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:06] intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] [03:07] john_dee (~id@95-29-180-98.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. 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[03:13] lsmod | grep ipw [03:13] yeah ipw2200 [03:13] its there [03:13] john_dee (~id@95-29-180-98.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:14] ok, so the module loaded. [03:14] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:14] john_dee (~id@95-29-180-98.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:14] lsmod stands for ? (helps me remember) [03:15] list modules [03:15] cool [03:15] i just learned /usr stands for unix system resources and not "user" =O [03:15] so now that its loaded -- how do i configure it in slackware? [03:15] so since the module is loaded, at this point you just need to connect. [03:16] if you want a gui solution i recommend wicd. [03:16] if not, look for networking guides on the internet ot use things like wpa_supplicant. basically, time to hit the books, kid. [03:16] does it come by default (this is a fresh install) [03:16] oh okay [03:16] wicd is in the "extra" dir of the slackware install media [03:17] though 13's wicd is buggy, you need to move to the next minor: 1.6.2.2 (i think slack 13 comes with 1.6.2.1) [03:17] where is the interfaces file? [03:17] because its WEP (i know i know) not WPA [03:18] if it is WEP you can still use wicd or you can directly use iwconfig [03:19] former is easy gui, latter is cli. pick your poison [03:19] if i'm correct i should be able to just add the two lines in interfaces the essid and password lines [03:20] wireless_essid [03:20] wireless_key are the two i have to add [03:20] nemesis (~nemesis@tmo-100-56.customers.d1-online.com) joined ##slackware. [03:20] there's more to it. that'l authenticate you, you still need an ip and routes. [03:21] might be good to go read at this point? [03:21] dhcp should handle that [03:21] hello, since when is http://slackware.com/packages/ or packages.slackware.it down? [03:21] yes, if the AP runs a dhcp server than you can dhcpcd $interface aftwer auth [03:21] troy (~troy@CPE001b1169ec48-CM0011e6ede8d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:21] yup [03:21] nemesis: months [03:21] troy (~troy@CPE001b1169ec48-CM0011e6ede8d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [03:21] nemesis, for a while [03:21] that'll provide an IP, DNS, and possibly routes. [03:22] ok, so since oct. last year... [03:22] if you're at all concered about security, wep is a very bad choice. [03:23] i know i know lol [03:23] is there a way to install packages or search for it without the official install dvd? [03:23] yeah...not sure why it was "buggy" [03:23] its not my wireless its my roomates so i just use it [03:23] MoMo, otoh, who cares, a lot of times. [03:23] what is the path for the interface file --- i used locate but everything was under /usr [03:23] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:23] what interface file? [03:23] /etch/network/interfaces ? [03:23] for eth1 [03:23] -h [03:24] i tried to cd there it says no such file or directory [03:24] what do you mean interface file? [03:24] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-199-16.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:24] mancha: isnt there a file to configure the network interfaces [03:24] oh [03:24] slack uses /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf as its standard [03:25] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [03:25] http://slackware.com/config/network.php [03:25] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Quit: Menea y hornea... [03:25] oh [03:25] crazy [03:26] i proudly proclaim i've never used pat's /etc/rc.d/rc.inet* stuff [03:26] mancha, WPA isn't much better, he should use WPA2 [03:27] doable only if your hardware (at both ends) supports it [03:27] what is the trick for restarting my network interfaces now [03:27] Action: alphageek is stuck with WPA-PSK for now because of his old-ish AP [03:29] k, better than nothing (wep) [03:29] wpa has no ccmp right? [03:29] ie. wpa2 can do what wpa does (psk with tkip) or it can do psk with ccmp, ayup? [03:33] is there a better non-graphical utility than rc.inet* scripts that you guys use? ncurses? [03:33] alpha what year is your AP from? [03:33] any ideea how to run a minimalistic Slackware from a FAT32 usb drive? In ordo to make win see the files too. [03:33] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.88.51) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:33] fhobia, wicd has an ncurses version [03:33] thanks mancha [03:33] Azeotrope: try slax iirc [03:33] john_dee (~id@95-29-180-98.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:34] when you install it, it'll be called "wicd-ncurses" [03:35] john_dee (~id@95-29-180-98.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:35] http://www.kubuntu-es.org/files/kubuntu-es.org/u2488/wicd-curses.jpeg [03:35] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.22.135) joined ##slackware. [03:35] wow, looks awesome [03:35] <3 ncurses [03:37] oops, wicd-curses [03:40] paissad__ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [03:40] haak (~Turkey@unaffiliated/hasan) joined ##slackware. [03:40] haak (Turkey@unaffiliated/hasan) left ##slackware. 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[03:49] Nick change: DrMoMo -> MoMo [03:49] MoMo cheated on his exams apparently [03:49] i=) [03:49] it happens [03:49] :D [03:51] why am i awake :/ [03:51] if i answered all my emails i'd have a lifetime supply of viagra, several quality rolexes, 3 PhD's, and a foot-long dong. [03:51] hmm i do call rc.inet1 restart in my acpi scripts [03:51] i hope wicd can be called on command line to enable certain interfaces [03:52] you better answer those, mancha [03:55] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4246, sources date: 20100125, built on: 2010-04-10 03:32:29 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:56] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:02] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:06] alreadygone (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [04:06] Nick change: alreadygone -> Oak [04:08] john_dee (~id@95-29-180-98.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:09] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [04:10] john_dee (~id@95-29-180-98.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:12] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.25.102) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:13] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-187-156.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [04:14] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.30.212) joined ##slackware. [04:15] morning [04:16] hi o/ [04:16] what's the support cycle for old version of slack? [04:18] don't know if there's anything formal but usually several years [04:18] I think slack 10.x is still supported [04:18] btrfs _could_ be the default in the next ubuntu version ^^ : http://www.netsplit.com/2010/05/14/btrfs-by-default-in-maverick/ [04:18] john_dee (~id@95-29-180-98.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:19] btrfs eh ? [04:19] john_dee (~id@95-29-180-98.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:19] zhoun (~guo@zhoun-2-pt.tunnel.tserv3.fmt2.ipv6.he.net) joined ##slackware. [04:19] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:20] technically speaking, slack 8.1 is still seeing updates (as of 2010-apr-20) [04:21] I certainly hope volkerdi EOLs a few branches, though. that's a fair bit of extra work to keep track of [04:23] troy (~troy@CPE001b1169ec48-CM0011e6ede8d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [04:23] zhoun (~guo@zhoun-2-pt.tunnel.tserv3.fmt2.ipv6.he.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:23] troy (~troy@CPE001b1169ec48-CM0011e6ede8d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [04:24] adrien: btrfs *is* the default for meego already :) [04:26] is there a stable meego release already, [04:26] ? [04:26] alphageek: ah, good to know, I thought so but wasn't sure :-) [04:30] adrien: I think a stable release is expected in te next couple of months [04:31] thx adrien, alphageek, an official website for free information? [04:31] what kind of information? [04:31] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:32] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [04:32] cteg (~heretic@dyndsl-091-096-088-222.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [04:36] it is any way to run 16 bit PCMCIA card on Windows drivers ? [04:39] edthix (~ed@175.144.229.97) joined ##slackware. [04:40] blaines (~blaines@ip68-106-24-21.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:44] Agiofws_ (~Agiofws@athedsl-427439.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:46] pprkut: still feels too early ;-) [04:47] edthix (ed@175.144.229.97) left ##slackware. [04:48] Action: dvel reconnected [04:48] [10.29.27 ] thx adrien, alphageek, an official website for free information? [04:49] slack life cycle [04:49] ? [04:49] what do you mean ? [04:53] dvel: there is no exact rule for when a branch finally dies [04:55] blaines (~blaines@ip68-106-24-21.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:55] grazymax (~grazymax@host178-2-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:59] ok thx [05:00] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Quit: We were always meant to say goodbye... [05:05] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-187-156.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:08] roccity_ (~roccity_@ip-118-90-3-223.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [05:11] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Quit: Menea y hornea... [05:11] v4nelle (~van@79.107.212.2) joined ##slackware. [05:16] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.34.212) left irc: Read error: Connection timed out [05:17] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.34.212) joined ##slackware. [05:18] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [05:21] quick note for anyone that bought World Of Goo. assuming you kept your download link, visit again. version 1.41 (released 2009-oct-14) now has 32 & 64 bit binaries [05:23] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [05:26] lem1 (~root@86.81.102.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [05:26] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:26] lem (~root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [05:27] is slackboy on vacation? [05:27] lem (~root@86.81.102.210) left irc: Client Quit [05:28] roccity_ (~roccity_@ip-118-90-3-223.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:28] 'e's restin' [05:28] pinin' for the fyords [05:28] lem (~root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [05:28] lazy motherf*cker [05:29] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [05:29] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. 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[05:39] Srbo_ (~Srbo@93.86.17.51) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [05:39] there's some site in yurp that builds -current based isos [05:39] mayhaps someone here remembers the url [05:40] no biggie, i can wait for the release [05:40] elemenohpee, there is here an iso. http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-current-iso/ but is unofficial of course... [05:41] groovy, but this machine don't have a dvd burner [05:42] then you must make your own isos with alienbob script [05:42] those iso's are from May 11. and dont include the last batch for RC1 (on May 14.) [05:42] or you can make a usb installer with this iso inside :) [05:43] jailbox, i know.....but is after 13.1 RC1 :) [05:44] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:44] the iso from the site above use http://www.slackware.no/makeSlackISOs.sh to make isos... [05:44] sorry for my english :p [05:44] greek man here :;p [05:45] is everything all greek to you? [05:47] what you mean? [05:47] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_to_me [05:49] kalimera v4nelle ;-) [05:52] kalimera doex :p [05:52] SiegeX, i didnt know that phraze :p [05:55] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [05:56] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [05:56] elemenohpee: read http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/local-slackware-mirror/ on how to download slackware-current files and create an ISO of them [05:56] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [06:00] alienBOB, ok [06:02] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [06:03] elemenohpee (~rafenator@cpe-70-95-95-200.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: [06:05] kozandr (~kozandr@irc.netall.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:06] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. 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[08:12] doex (root@86.81.102.210) left ##slackware. [08:13] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [08:13] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [08:14] yoyoned (~todd@c-68-51-26-64.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:14] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [08:18] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:21] jrodger (~hmmm@203-213-6-68.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [08:21] jrodger (~hmmm@203-213-6-68.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:23] gospch (~gospch@unaffiliated/gospch) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:24] anybody know how to mount an OpenBSD ffs partition on Slackware? [08:25] pi31415 (~rootabaga@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:27] if both systems are running, i'd say nfs [08:29] sshfs/scp/webdav [08:31] I am dual booting with slackware and OpenBSD. I've inserted the ffs module, but can't see the partition [08:35] yoyoned (~todd@c-68-51-26-64.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [08:35] you can mount but read-only iirc [08:36] not sure the support is compiled in the slackware kernel though [08:36] he left, you weren't snappy enough with that answer [08:37] too bad for him =) [08:38] doex (~root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [08:38] yeah, i was gonna ask what did fdisk -l show [08:38] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:40] Nick change: hackeron_ -> hackeron [08:41] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Changing host [08:41] hackeron (~hackeron@gentoo/user/hackeron) joined ##slackware. [08:44] o/ =) [08:44] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [08:48] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:50] \o [08:51] garme (~garme@189.17.129.210) joined ##slackware. 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[09:46] adrien im just cp'in log on paste 1 min [09:47] Srbo_ (~Srbo@93.86.17.51) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:47] I have done it before [09:48] it works ok as long as the system your chrooting obviously can run X and you have mounted all correctly including /proc /sys etc. [09:48] http://pastebin.com/nxG4pzva [09:48] ive mount proc but not sys [09:49] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.34.212) left irc: Read error: Connection timed out [09:49] you've bound /dev too? [09:49] yep [09:49] ill do /sys now and see what happens [09:49] oobe, did you just startx in chroot ? [09:50] yes i havent needed to do so in a long time [09:50] but once i was chrooted i could run all my programs normally [09:50] slackytude (~slacky@2001:41b8:9bf:fe75:20c:f1ff:fe48:7a55) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:51] startx -- :1 is telling it to start a second xsession [09:52] it might not work if there is no sesson 0 [09:52] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-187-156.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [09:52] troy (~troy@CPE001b1169ec48-CM0011e6ede8d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:52] so im saying just try startx [09:52] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [09:52] ive already running X on my install ..and trying to get chroot with X ...that is possible yeah ? [09:53] yes [09:53] iceheart (~xj@221.235.188.92) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [09:53] your best success would be using a slackware install cd that is the same version as the / install you are chrooting to [09:54] if you are using a livecd that is built with different kernel etc. it may not work with X [09:54] yeah both these are 13 [09:54] ok [09:54] guys, I'm looking for the hibernate files etc for notebooks, any pointers (I've just had to rebuld my notebook [09:54] sorry i cant be of more help [09:54] ok thanks for trying [09:54] jrodger, usually pm-utils does that [09:54] other than to say it *should* work [09:55] yeah ill keep trying oobe [09:55] jrodger, hibernate files? [09:55] echelon: when you close the lid etc., [09:55] oh, the utils? [09:56] jrodger, the acpid daemon is responsible for events + actions. the 'actions' part usually call pm-utils [09:56] roger__, once you loginto tht chroot env try type bash to set your enviroment then type startx [09:56] just a thought [09:57] ok ill try that [09:57] my typing is so sloppy lately [09:57] i see you understood it anyway though [09:57] troy (~troy@CPE001b1169ec48-CM0011e6ede8d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [09:58] no it's something todo with Xserver saying is already running [09:58] which it is [09:58] there was a link I went to last time for configuring the acpi [09:58] jrodger, http://rlworkman.net/conf/acpi/ are some good examples, you can adapt them to your system [09:59] or, if you're in xfce, kde, or gnome, they have gui tools to define this stuff [09:59] thrice, legend......that's the link I was after [09:59] roger__, http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages#Ikeepgettingthemessage.3A.22Cannotestablishanylisteningsockets....22 [09:59] i had another look at your paste [10:01] so if thats the case a solution would be to try startx -- :2 instead of :1 [10:02] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:02] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:02] ok [10:03] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [10:03] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [10:04] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-162-114.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [10:04] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-199-16.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:04] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:06] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:07] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-199-16.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:09] roger__ (~roger@212.183.140.49) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:09] kozandr (~kozandr@irc.netall.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:10] kozandr (~kozandr@irc.netall.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:17] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-162-114.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:18] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:21] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:22] ssh login.uia.no [10:23] oops, wrong window :p [10:23] you forgot to type your password [10:23] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [10:23] and username [10:24] same username and private key :) [10:24] oobe (aardvark@insidiousramblings.com) left ##slackware ("Goodbye and Farewell!!!!!!"). [10:24] oobe (~aardvark@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [10:26] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:27] also, -o Compression=yes -o CompressionLevel=9 is often nice [10:28] hi guys, has anyone of you tried SalixOS? I am curious to hear some slacker's opinion [10:29] from what I gather, it's a slackware-'ish' clone that does extra things slackware doesn't think are good [10:30] but it comes from france [10:30] heh, they claim it is *fully* backwards compatible with slackware [10:30] it is quite international -- there's also a Finnish developer [10:30] v4nelle (~van@79.107.212.2) joined ##slackware. [10:30] lunarvalleys, what does that mean? just use slackware then :> [10:31] thrice', i am just curious if i can really benefit from their repository [10:31] for installing 3rd party packages [10:31] ya trust em? [10:31] anyways, sbopkg + slackbuilds.org does the job [10:31] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:31] i dont, that's why i wanted to see what other people think [10:31] ca_ (~ca@host36-174-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:32] well, slackware isn't meant to do deps. if you want a PM that does dependency resolution, there are many good ones out there; I certainly wouldn't trust some hack-ish slapt-get distro :) [10:32] heh, i somehow never liked slapt-get [10:32] who knows, it's probably fine. but unless someoene can explain to me a net benefit, it's just another spin-of made by people with too much time to waste... [10:33] if there was a slackware system using arch's pacman it would be great :P [10:33] i think they used to be part of Zenwalk [10:34] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [10:36] Axius (~fd@109.97.56.55) joined ##slackware. [10:37] tusk (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [10:37] tusk (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. 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[10:48] no , i like slackware [10:48] he's a troll [10:49] obvious troll is obvious [10:49] Captain obviousness at your service [10:51] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:52] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@168-103-63-219.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [10:53] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [10:54] ipulz: consider it a learning experience. you just found the "instantly get everyone to hate me" button on your irc client [10:57] Genk1 (~Am1ne@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:57] superGear (~supergear@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:57] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:57] Genk1 (~Am1ne@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [10:59] roger__ (~rogers@212.183.140.1) joined ##slackware. [11:01] alphageek : sory my english is bad ,i am bad response :( [11:01] oobe, it tried but got blank screen ...couldnt ++F* back ...seemed to try but no succes [11:02] if i did startx -- :1 should i edit the server to listen on port 6001 ? [11:04] anyone use SIP client on Symbian ? [11:06] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:07] v4nelle (~van@79.107.212.2) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:09] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:13] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-162-114.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [11:15] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-177.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [11:16] does it matted which IDE hdd is master & slave ? I haven't been using IDE drives for a decade [11:16] um, did anyone notice the usb installer in slackware-current is a slackware64-13.1 usb image? [11:16] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [11:16] i can't install slackware-13.1rc1 on my netbook [11:17] whyohwhy (~189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-nvarkwajrcvsdlqc) joined ##slackware. [11:17] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [11:18] does anyone know why the qemu download on savannah redirects to very-clever.com ? [11:18] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [11:18] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:18] are you using the slackbuild [11:18] http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/qemu/qemu-0.12.3.tar.gz ? [11:18] WFM [11:19] 12.4 [11:19] no slackbuild [11:19] ok, still WFM [11:19] http://nongnu.askapache.com/qemu/qemu-0.12.4.tar.gz hmm [11:20] guess they just randomly redirect you [11:20] http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/qemu/qemu-0.12.4.tar.gz ? [11:20] yeah redirects [11:20] i thgouth very-clever.com was not an official mirror [11:20] but i guess it is [11:21] use wget [11:21] thrice`, what's WFM [11:21] works for me [11:21] why not just type works for me out ? [11:22] because it makes you talk to me [11:22] and I like that <3 <3 [11:22] ridout (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] lol stupid gayball [11:22] you like that ... balls on balls? [11:22] :o [11:24] you guys check out haiku? [11:24] slackaholic (~Diego@189-93-151-239.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:24] wrong channel [11:24] you guys check out $progname [11:25] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.208) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:29] whyohwhy: I tried, but I keep getting an invalid use of null error. [11:30] what gives you that error [11:30] When I try to check out $progname [11:30] I don't think it was properly initialized [11:32] slackaholic (~Diego@189-93-151-239.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:34] troy (~troy@CPE001b1169ec48-CM0011e6ede8d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:34] troy (~troy@CPE001b1169ec48-CM0011e6ede8d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [11:35] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-119-195.consolidated.net) joined ##slackware. [11:41] FriedBob: did you use the slackbuild? [11:42] dont report any errors unless you have duplicated them on the standard slackware huge kernel [11:42] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-199-16.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:42] huge? not genericß [11:42] huge? not generic? [11:46] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:47] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[12:10] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [12:11] xe7 (abhishek@devio.us) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:15] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-177.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:16] i cant wait for slackware 14! [12:17] what'll be the major differences between 13.1 and 14? [12:17] is 13.1 out ? [12:17] if you think thats great just wait for slackware googleplex [12:17] rc1 [12:17] k [12:18] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:18] googleplex is a search engine with lots of zeros after it [12:18] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Changing server [12:19] a search engine that lots of zeroes use [12:19] Skywise: heh [12:19] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [12:21] Axius_ (~fd@92.84.11.152) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:21] straterra, got another nuke in cod lol [12:23] ridout (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:24] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:24] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:24] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:25] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:25] gsan (~gsan@cpe-66-65-134-160.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:26] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [12:28] mancha: you don't trust french people? =) [12:28] only you :) [12:28] adrien: should we? [12:29] its the french canadien you need to watch out for [12:29] adrien, you commies trust the french ? [12:29] mancha: ;-) [12:30] bah, but I'm sure you all trust french girls ^ ^ [12:30] "trust" is the wrong word [12:31] try lust [12:31] jeev, are you one of the camping snipers? [12:32] redxj (~xj@221.235.188.92) joined ##slackware. [12:32] yup, but everyone trusts a cute girl =/ [12:32] no, they're the worst kind [12:32] and girls who act cute are the most dangerous cause they know they're only playing so you'll lower your guard [12:34] maddslacker (~corey@63-227-0-51.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:34] anyone here running slackware64-current on a laptop? [12:34] anyone *else* heh [12:35] troy (~troy@CPE001b1169ec48-CM0011e6ede8d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:35] thrice`, i dont snipe, i've probably used the sniper in the game like 5 times and i dont camp [12:35] i may run around from one side to the other side [12:36] what game is that? [12:36] yup, easiest way to lose your security [12:36] huh [12:36] troy (~troy@CPE001b1169ec48-CM0011e6ede8d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [12:36] call of duty 4 modern warfare 2 [12:36] the crappy castrated game [12:37] yeah, i still prefer cod2 uo [12:37] and i love hunting snipers [12:37] lol [12:37] fonseg (~fonseg@58.187.72.14) joined ##slackware. [12:38] but i haven't played in so long, the servers i used to go to all upgraded and the versions afterward have sucked [12:38] i like playing with the tanks [12:38] I don't believe you jeev [12:38] and the 88s [12:39] woot - RC1 is out as of yesterday evening [12:39] you're the fag sniper crouched in a corner, playing music over his mic [12:39] lol [12:39] xe7 (abhishek@devio.us) joined ##slackware. [12:39] what is fag [12:39] get a scope and split his melon [12:39] g3oM1 (~geo@ppp-94-69-127-157.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:40] hi thrice` [12:40] unlike england where fag is slang for cigarette, most other places is derogatory slang referencing sexual preference [12:40] its an insult for someone who is gay [12:40] whyohwhy, ^^^ [12:40] whyohwhy: urbandictionnary.com [12:40] oh...he is projecting [12:41] pim (1000@slacker.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:42] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:43] it is sad how innocent language is usurped by innuendo [12:44] i have qemu 12.3 configured in /tmp/...how can i copy the same configure settings to 12.4 i cant remember all the arguments i used [12:44] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:45] v4nelle (~van@79.107.212.2) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:45] in old literature, a fagot is a piece of firewood and a gay person is merely happy [12:46] hello, i'm getting an error when running a slackware buildscript, it says see 'config.log' for more details, where might i find this log file? [12:46] whyohwhy, this is why you use a slackbuild [12:46] Anyone know what the right fglrx driver is for Mobility X1400 if any? ATI website just says "get lost.. go to your laptpo manufacturer for a driver" [12:46] am hoping that either the 9 or 10 series catalyst driver will still work [12:46] I'm trying to set up m wireless, and every site I go to is using psk and wpapsk for wpa access. If my network uses wpa2, do I just add 2 to the end of everything? [12:46] pim, in the directory where the source was expanded, try /tmp/SBo [12:46] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:46] thrice`: why [12:47] whyohwhy, so that your configure settings are remembered [12:47] they are remembered [12:47] i cant remember all the arguments i used [12:48] sorry, that was confusing [12:48] *cough* [12:48] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-199-16.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:48] i lost the slackbuild [12:48] now im totally screwed [12:48] check under the couch [12:48] oh i didnt use one, nevermind [12:49] thats why sbo scripts conveniently place the used slackbuild in /usr/doc [12:49] I back mine up, just in case [12:49] twoshot_, nope, wep, wpa, and wpa2 are 3 different encryption algorythms [12:50] mancha it doesn't seem to be in there\ [12:51] pim, if it is an SBo script it'll be in /tmp/SBo/pkgname-version most likely [12:51] mine go to /tmp/pkgname-version [12:51] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-199-16.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:51] alisonken1home, I understand that. This is what I'm looking at: http://bit.ly/bwoFMP a little more than halfway down the page [12:52] you were right mancha [12:53] twoshot_, I found wicd works better than /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf - especially for portables, since wicd will allow you to keep different profiles that will autoconnect depending on where you'reat [12:53] you're at rather [12:53] troy (~troy@CPE001b1169ec48-CM0011e6ede8d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:54] alisonken1home, If I configure with wicd, will it ignore rc.inet1.conf? [12:54] do I need "System Libraries (needed by KDE, GNOME, X, and more)" to be installed for a server accessed only be ssh ? [12:54] wicd does, but startup always looks at rc.inet1 unless you start as runlevel 1 [12:55] lisak: no - but if you have room, it makes it easier to just install l/ rather than pick and choose [12:55] k [12:55] whyohwhy (189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-nvarkwajrcvsdlqc) left ##slackware. [12:56] twoshot_, if you install wicd, just remember to read the instructions since users that use wicd need to be added to extra groups [12:56] xe7 (abhishek@devio.us) left ##slackware. [12:57] k [12:57] wicd works pretty well for me for wpa2, etc [12:57] alisonken1home, ok ... and don't you know about some kernel config set up for these servers ? [12:58] I mean config done for non-desktop installations by somebody much more skilled than me :) [12:58] performance reasons [12:59] lisak, kernel options would be something to play with if you want to optimize, otherwise the stock slack is decent for either server or desktop [12:59] nader (~nader@85.133.204.158) joined ##slackware. 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[13:03] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:03] lisak: wouldn't it be cheaper to buy something less ancient, than paying for electricity for this old machine and spending so much effort? [13:04] pim: no. look above that error [13:04] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:04] it gives source code [13:04] in c [13:05] pim: read the slackbuilds.org faq. especially the one about x86_64 [13:05] pim: post that config.log on pastebin [13:05] Your choice is simple: join us and live in peace, or pursue your present course and face obliteration& [13:05] sakho it's not a 64bit system [13:05] what is it then? [13:05] my guess would be 32bit [13:06] 32 bit, x86\ [13:06] 32bit what? Slackware 13.0/ [13:06] ? [13:08] indeed [13:08] http://pastebin.com/ExWsgcNm [13:08] ananke, now I know it would [13:08] i will be away for dinner now, thanks for the help so far [13:09] pim: # [13:09] /usr/libexec/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.3.3/cc1: error while loading shared libr [13:09] # [13:09] aries: libmpfr.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [13:09] after check format of boot partition taking 10 minutes :) [13:09] libmpfr yo [13:09] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-162-114.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [13:10] reading is hard [13:10] aha (~alain_har@120.205.141.79.dynamic.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:11] nader (nader@85.133.204.158) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:11] yup, that's why I run slack: I use the speakup kernel and emacs >< [13:12] where does one report a bug in slackware-current [13:12] aha (alain_har@120.205.141.79.dynamic.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr) left ##slackware. [13:13] maddslacker: volkerdi@slackware.com [13:13] lol [13:13] seriously? [13:14] yes, seriously [13:14] ok [13:14] latest kde or xorg is making my laptop lock up x when I close the liod [13:14] it's very annoying [13:16] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [13:16] shite, i hate when the beer finishes... [13:17] zippi (~zippi@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~ [13:19] the installator has one little disadvantage I'd appreciate, if you exit it for whatever reasons, you need to set it all from scratch again [13:19] *I don't like :) [13:19] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:21] How do you resolve dependencies for a given slackware app? I have to look in slackbuild for that. [13:21] but otherwise it's cool [13:26] Axius (~fd@92.82.69.16) joined ##slackware. [13:29] Azeotrope, by hand [13:30] maddslacker (~corey@63-227-0-51.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:31] s/hand/head [13:32] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:32] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-119-195.consolidated.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:34] I've tried to install elinks with sbopkg and I get this error:http://dpaste.com/195003/ [13:35] nooneelse (~brunodeol@201.90.155.112) joined ##slackware. [13:36] nooneelse (~brunodeol@201.90.155.112) left irc: Changing host [13:36] nooneelse (~brunodeol@unaffiliated/nooneelse) joined ##slackware. [13:42] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-162-114.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:45] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:46] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [13:46] Axius: please post in #sbopkg [13:46] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [13:47] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:47] Axius: nm, I see your post #slackbuilds. yes, you need a full slackware install for slackbuilds.org and sbopkg [13:48] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [13:48] maddslacker (~corey@63-227-0-51.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:49] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [13:54] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [13:55] fonseg (~fonseg@58.187.72.14) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:55] extra_elvis (~extra_elv@32.168.214.60) joined ##slackware. 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[14:06] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-162-114.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [14:07] Axius (~fd@92.82.69.16) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:09] tusk (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [14:10] escaflown (~escaflown@S0106002275b651fe.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:10] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:11] tusk (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [14:13] so i have an error /usr/libexec/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.3.3/cc1: error while loading shared libraries [14:13] does that mean that gcc is broken? [14:14] or not installed [14:14] extra_elvis (~extra_elv@32.168.214.60) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:14] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [14:16] Axius (~fd@92.82.69.16) joined ##slackware. [14:16] maddslacker it seems to be installed, and it's just a stock system [14:17] what are you running that throws that error? [14:17] try running ldconfig [14:17] or you could have a disk error [14:17] yeah, was just headed there [14:17] it's the slackbuild for htop [14:18] what version of slackware are you on? [14:18] 13.0 [14:18] error while loading *which* shared library? it should tell you [14:18] and what version of the slackbuild did you download? [14:19] I betcha it's mpfr, gcc needs that and it's not immediately obvious while you're in the installer. It's in the l series. [14:22] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:22] redxj (~xj@221.235.188.92) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:22] htop is cool [14:22] i just installed it from source in 3mins [14:22] htop is the best... should be added to slackware too [14:22] i've used it but not in a while [14:23] one of the first things I install [14:23] i need to change the color scheme tho [14:23] htop shows the consolekit process fine [14:24] I just installed it [14:24] it says: configure: failed program was: and then it gives confdefs.h [14:24] no errors [14:25] in the config.log file [14:25] pim: do a full slackware installation [14:25] :-S [14:26] pim_ (1000@slacker.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:26] Axius_ (~fd@92.82.69.16) joined ##slackware. [14:26] why exactly are you reccomending that? [14:26] you didnt even paste the log anywhere. you just paste random errors here [14:26] i did paste the log [14:26] because you obviously dont know what you need to have a fully working system [14:26] ang_ (~ang@up-above-it.org) joined ##slackware. [14:26] What command should I run for a tar.bz2 source file? [14:27] Nick change: ang_ -> ang|laptop [14:27] sahko i don't, i'm trying to learn what i need [14:27] you need 'full' when you run the install ;) [14:28] it would probably just be the easy solution [14:28] Axius, to extract it, run tar -xjf file.tar.bz2 [14:29] [OpenSys] (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [14:29] pim (1000@slacker.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:29] slava_dp: ok, thank you. [14:31] Axius, x -- extract (t - list, c - compress); j - filter through bzip2 (z - gzip, or none); f is mandatory for files. [14:31] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [14:31] slackboy, you don't need the 'j' anymore, just -xvf and it figures it out [14:31] err slava_dp ^^ [14:32] maddslacker, GNU find will figure out. there are other finds though. and -j is so-so portable. [14:32] i've yet to have it fail on gx, bz2 or zip [14:32] *gz [14:32] g3oM1 (~geo@ppp-94-69-127-157.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:33] bsd find will probably fail. [14:33] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [14:33] tavl (~tavl@189.70.170.165) joined ##slackware. [14:33] I don't use bsd, I use Slackware [14:33] Axius__ (~fd@109.97.53.187) joined ##slackware. [14:33] Axius___ (~fd@109.97.53.187) joined ##slackware. [14:33] just telling what's portable. [14:34] does bsd's tar do the autodetect gz/bz2 like gnu tar does? [14:34] i would doubt it. [14:34] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:35] alright i'm now installing all of slackware [14:35] damn. s/find/tar/ for all my previous comments. [14:35] is ok, knew what you meant [14:35] bsdtar does autodetect compression [14:35] thanks for the help everybody [14:35] me too [14:35] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:36] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [14:36] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [14:36] Axius_ (~fd@92.82.69.16) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:36] Axius (~fd@92.82.69.16) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:36] goodbye [14:36] pim_ (1000@slacker.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:37] escaflown (~escaflown@S0106002275b651fe.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] heh, even "bsdtar xvf *.rpm" works [14:38] linXea (~slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:38] linXea (~slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Changing host [14:38] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [14:38] rpm is a cpio archive, not a tar one... [14:38] that does not change the fact that it works :P [14:38] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:39] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [14:39] bsdtar is much easier to call then cpio crap [14:40] Action: slava_dp agrees that cpio is crap :) [14:40] and I did not know slackware bundles 'bsdtar' [14:40] cpio is crap but it works everywhere [14:43] gades (~gades@190.33.62.4) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:45] Nick0 (~Nick0@ip-120-193-241-92.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [14:45] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:45] gades (~gades@190.33.62.4) joined ##slackware. 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[15:06] j0z (~j0z@187.59.10.96) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:08] sunzu (~sunzu@pD9ED6F3F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:08] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [15:09] sunzu (~sunzu@pD9ED6F3F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:10] Does anyone knows a programm to overcome censorship and blackage on the internet for slackware? [15:10] in what way? [15:10] ?? [15:10] do you mean TOR? [15:11] that's what i thought :D [15:11] Axius, ^^ google that [15:11] for example when I used xp I had ultrasurf and hotshield. [15:12] what for ? [15:12] Axius, what is your real goal here? [15:12] i don't even know what it is [15:12] OMGZ PROTECT ME FROM HAX0RZ [15:12] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:13] or protect me from FBI :D [15:13] http://gotslack.freeshell.org/pics/onoz.gif [15:13] Axius_ (~fd@92.84.2.61) joined ##slackware. [15:13] Axius (~fd@109.97.53.187) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:14] hah [15:14] my real goal is to access that are blocked outside USA some site, for example hulu [15:15] Somebody set up us the bomb [15:15] just use a proxy [15:15] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [15:15] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:15] yeah, you need a proxy [15:15] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.239.142) joined ##slackware. [15:15] Axius_, get tor toolbar for firefox [15:15] that's not really secure to use (don't send any passwords over tor), but is usable. [15:15] watching video over tor? thats amusing [15:15] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:16] what, hulu is video? [15:16] I never heard the word [15:16] ok [15:16] you can buy a proxy service for this [15:16] my friend does when he's overseas [15:16] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:16] yes, its a site where you can watch network tv shows from [15:16] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:16] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [15:16] Skywise, and it filters only US users? [15:16] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [15:16] yeah [15:17] not even canadians can look [15:17] lol, there are lots of open proxies in the US. [15:17] and the lists are available. [15:17] Axius_, google 'open proxy lists' [15:17] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [15:17] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) joined ##slackware. [15:17] slava_dp: ok [15:19] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) left irc: Client Quit [15:19] grazymax (~grazymax@host36-153-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:25] yoyoned (~todd@c-68-51-26-64.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:30] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-18.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:30] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:31] pupiteee (~p@109.92.252.165) joined ##slackware. [15:32] Axius_ (~fd@92.84.2.61) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:33] j0z (~j0z@201.22.17.84.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:36] I donno if should I risk upgrading ... is gdb + kdevelop working fine under current ? [15:37] hi i've had a problem. i was using alienBOB's script to mirror the 32bit current, and after syncing the 13.1rc1 i have made a usb boot and fired it up. and usbboot comes up with the line "Slackware64" i had to restart and to use the previous sync dvd to recreate the usb and now im waiting for installer to load initrd.img. did this happened to someone already? [15:38] someone else mentioned the 32-bit usb image might actually be 64-bit :> [15:38] thrice`: dont know [15:38] Axius (~fd@92.84.2.61) joined ##slackware. [15:39] im sure for now that im syncing the 32bit [15:39] How do I remove a package compile from source on slackware? [15:40] at least i didnt deleted the iso image, could go back to 12.2... [15:40] right, I mean that Pat uploaded a 64-bit image instead of 32-bit [15:40] Axius, if you're lucky, 'make uninstall' from the source directory [15:40] thrice`: ok [15:40] Axius: like you do on any other unix/linux << like thrice` said [15:41] Axius, this is why packages exist on all distributions :) [15:41] if you're not lucky you list file installed and remove them by hand [15:41] v4nelle (~van@79.107.212.2) joined ##slackware. [15:41] sinuhe (~sinuhe@166.70.206.22) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:42] make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'. Stop [15:42] then you're not :D [15:42] Axius, yep, out of luck then [15:43] it's always easier to make a quick and dirty SlackBuild for compilations [15:45] Axius: you could make a build script, that installs in the same location as your usual package. Then install the package, remove it and build a proper packag [15:45] s/$/e/ [15:46] or just make DESTDIR="~/crap" install , and makepkg out of it (even uglier) [15:46] hi, the current CD2 (13.0) is no longer LiveCD? [15:47] what are the chances that ntfs support is built in usbboot.img? [15:48] pupiteee: 50%? [15:48] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [15:48] (ie: it either is, or it isn't. [15:48] sinuhe (~sinuhe@166.70.206.22) joined ##slackware. [15:48] yeah... [15:48] flip a coin [15:49] 67mb/s down with a server in my town [15:49] and 5 mb/s with a server 10 km away [15:50] network latency ;) [15:51] How can I recompile a program from source to enable some futures? [15:51] --enable-futures ? [15:52] lol [15:52] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-123-229-47.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:53] sinuhe (~sinuhe@166.70.206.22) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:53] --speed=88 --with-delorian --enable-doc-brown=yes [15:54] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-119-195.consolidated.net) joined ##slackware. [15:54] hrhr :) [15:54] result: back to the future? :) [15:55] jhell (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:55] BP{k}: but he didn't say he had the flux capacitor environment [15:55] i_is_cat (~i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:56] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [16:00] jhell (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. [16:04] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:08] Axius (~fd@92.84.2.61) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:10] Coolmax (~mateusz@ip-94-42-53-253.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:13] hahaha i had a typo, instead of typing adduser i wrote assuser [16:14] LOL [16:14] did it work? [16:15] made me laugh :) [16:16] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427439.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:16] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427439.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:16] slackin (~slackin@68.204.232.100) joined ##slackware. [16:16] slackin (~slackin@68.204.232.100) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:22] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.239.142) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:23] MoMo (~MoMo@ip70-181-252-58.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:23] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:24] MoMo (~MoMo@ip70-181-252-58.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:24] Kde 4.4.3 uses 1gb more ram than the previous [16:24] Axius (~fd@92.84.2.61) joined ##slackware. [16:24] only if you configure it to do so [16:25] pprkut: havent configured anything yet, these are first readings [16:25] I've tried to compile elinks with sbopkg and I get this error:configure: error: /bin/sh config/config.sub failed [16:26] pupiteee, more than kde 3.5 you mean? [16:26] slackytude: more than kde 4.2 or whatever before the -current Kde upgrade [16:27] really? [16:27] really [16:27] ill restart, see if it changes [16:27] thats bad [16:28] MoMo (~MoMo@ip70-181-252-58.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:28] MoMo (~MoMo@ip70-181-252-58.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:29] :S it was funny for me how some experienced users used Xfce instead of Kde way before 13.0 came. now i see why [16:31] slackytude: ok, now its fine, after restart. just 1/2GB as usual [16:31] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:31] slackware01 (~root@fl-67-232-249-201.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [16:31] hi :D [16:31] hello. [16:31] pupiteee, it was probably re-indexing something [16:31] i just got slackware, and i am not sure how to connect to my wireless network [16:32] im running off of eth0 right now [16:32] maddslacker: you have the point [16:32] my wifi is broken, don't look at me [16:32] slackware01: either set up the network ing scripts (/etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf) or use wicd. [16:32] oh [16:32] slackware01, get wicd [16:33] is there a command i could run to get it? [16:34] sorry i just switched from ubuntu and i am not familiar with packaging in slackware [16:34] I thought it was built-in, no? [16:34] setup slackpkg [16:34] its in extra, afaik [16:34] yes it's in extra [16:34] on the installdvd [16:34] slackin (~slackin@68.204.232.100) joined ##slackware. [16:34] slackin (~slackin@68.204.232.100) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:35] v4nelle (~van@79.107.212.2) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:35] Nick0 (~Nick0@ip-230-197-241-92.dialup.ice.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving! [16:35] slackware01, you have to edit /etc/slackpkg/mirrors then you can do a slackpkg install wicd [16:35] manwichmakeameal (~tjones@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [16:36] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:37] what should i comment/uncomment/add to the mirrors file? [16:37] i have it up on nano [16:37] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:37] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:37] uncomment aline containing a mirror close to you with the right slack version [16:39] pupiteee thrice` - I checked, indeed the usbboot.img in slackware-current is in fact 64-bit. Boo boo [16:39] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:40] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: ^D [16:40] as well as aaa_base and bsd-games [16:40] for some reason this never happened the other way around afair [16:40] roger__ (~rogers@212.183.140.1) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:41] No, that is because development happens on 64-bit [16:42] hi alienBOB, after 13.1 comes out, will there be new multilibs? [16:42] maddslacker: read his blog [16:42] already answered [16:42] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:42] great i got it [16:42] cool, haven't checked lately [16:43] so wicd should take care of everything? [16:43] i just got it from slackpkg [16:43] slackware01: read /usr/doc/wicd-$VERSION/README.SLACKWARE [16:43] ok [16:43] alienBOB, could we run slackware on rfid ink ? [16:44] yeah, wicd is pretty good [16:44] beatst [16:44] [new file] [16:44] beats the gnome network thingy fair and square [16:44] slackware01: substitute $VERSION with an actual version.... [16:44] oh ok sry [16:44] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:44] ha [16:45] damn copypasters! [16:45] :p [16:46] jeev, rfid ink? [16:46] slackytude, the future of tracking us [16:47] ink with rfid? [16:48] Radio Frequency ID or RFID tags are now commonplace. For example, in a supply chain, each box is tagged, and the whole load is instantly tracked when it passes through a portal from warehouse to retailer. However, at 50 cents apiece, silicon chips only make sense for tracking big items. The new specialized ink is expected to change that within five years. [16:48] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:48] hi Eric. will Slackware 13.1 support unlocking luks root partition from keyfile on a usb stick? [16:48] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.34.212) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:49] people always worried about "government wanting to track people." im more worried about companies tracking me than government [16:50] ok i started wicd [16:50] no icon appears in the bottom tray tho [16:51] slackware01: did you reboot? [16:51] not yet [16:51] did you clear /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf btw? [16:51] i will now [16:51] v4nelle (~van@79.107.212.2) joined ##slackware. [16:51] no i havent [16:52] 1s [16:52] slackin (~slackin@68.204.232.100) joined ##slackware. [16:52] slackin (~slackin@68.204.232.100) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:52] did you read the README? [16:53] yes [16:53] rebooting now [16:53] thanks [16:53] slackware01 (~root@fl-67-232-249-201.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:53] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [16:55] guaxinim (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. 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[17:59] Nick change: guaxinim -> guax [17:59] jakemills (~jakemills@2.100.203.235) joined ##slackware. [17:59] can someone tell me why, when a package requires another to make it work(!) that slackware doesn't provide (by default) tools that will download those things for you - why would you install something that you didn't want to work?? [18:00] jakemills: slackware does not do dependency checking. [18:01] Slackware doesn't want to do things that way. If you don't like it, that's fine. [18:01] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-199-16.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:01] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427439.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:01] You're not forced to use Slackware, so pick something else and go on with your life instead of trying to run someone else's life. [18:02] I understand that they don't want to go and install things you don't want to install... but what I don't get is why - when you install that package, surely you want it to work? I want to choose slackware because I think everything else about it seems awesoem - I just want to know the benfits of this way of doing things [18:02] If you have a complete installation of Slackware, then everything in Slackware that depends on something else in Slackware is present. Easy as pie. [18:03] I guess rather than the benefits - the more appropriate question to you slackware users (so i can get it installed and feel safe about it) is has it ever been a real issue fo ryou in every day use? [18:03] If you don't know what depends on what else, then don't do a partial installation. Disk space is cheap and plentiful. [18:04] No, it's not an issue at all -- IF you install the complete package set. Well, you can omit the E series (emacs) without any harm. [18:04] escaflown (~escaflown@S0106002275b651fe.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [18:04] its not really an issue [18:04] TehRabbitt (~rabbott@c-71-59-82-2.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:04] If I wanted to go off to a website and install something like netbeans for example - would i have to spend an hour hunting down dependencies? (or something else outside of the slackware repositories) [18:04] escaflown (~escaflown@S0106002275b651fe.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:05] jakemills, check slackbuilds.org? [18:05] jakemills: possibly, but not likely -- check http://slackbuilds.org first. [18:05] Be sure to the read the FAQ there. :) [18:06] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:06] Action: rworkman is afk for foodage. [18:06] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [18:06] blaines_ (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:06] Hello Everyone, I have a Compaq/HP N620C and I've spent the past month trying to figure out what distro to install but after talking to my friend (MS3FGX) who's worked alot with the bluetooth stack in slackware i've decided to install slackware onto the laptop, the question is however... Is there a Network install that I can boot off of a USB drive and then install the rest via the internet since this machine has no CD/DVD drive? [18:07] I know at first and maybe still) I came across as just asking questions to try and make slackware sound flawed - i actually like every other thing I have heard or read about it and wanted some info from actual users [18:07] you've answered my questions - so thanks :-) [18:07] TehRabbitt, yeah [18:07] TehRabbitt: yep [18:07] TehRabbitt: yes. ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [18:08] Ah sweet Thanks :-D [18:09] how good is WiFi support for WPA in slackware btw? [18:09] WPA/WPA2? [18:09] TehRabbitt: as good as can be expected [18:09] I use wpa every day, though I don't think it's wpa2 [18:09] jakemills, also, a full install of slack comes with heaps of dev libraries. there is some stuff that will need a lot of additional libs, mostly gnome dependent stuff. but its mostly on slackbuilds.org these days. hardly ever will you have to go dependency hunting. It is not as comfy as ubuntu but you'll never have to argue with your package manager [18:09] I have no problems with wpa_supplicant [18:10] TehRabbitt, same as every other linux [18:10] gades (~gades@190.33.62.4) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:10] doex (~root@86.81.102.210) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:10] wertik_ (~wertik@95-24-53-99.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:11] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-177.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. 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[18:18] no [18:18] then it should be empty [18:18] indeed [18:18] eycel (~eycel@67-61-15-122.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:19] timeout on wlan0 [18:19] anyone else noticed that the usbboot.img in slackware-current is 64bit for some odd reason? [18:19] Delahunt, yes [18:19] Delahunt, its being fixed [18:20] slackware01, encrypted network? probably wrong password or somesuch [18:21] yes [18:22] so you need to set the key? [18:22] try "admin1234" that's a common password [18:22] also try "cameltoe" [18:22] well, no. wicd can automatically login to any network no matter the encryption. thats because its made with magic pixie dust [18:22] lol [18:23] BrZ (~BrZ@201-67-34-12.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:23] isn't that why people use linux? to automagically hack into anything? [18:23] i kind of assumed it would ask like it did in ubuntu [18:23] wicd was designed by NSA cyber spooks [18:23] lol [18:23] it'll log into anything except chuck norris' personal box [18:24] I heard chuck norris has his own distro of linux that can even hack into his box [18:24] is the readme the SLACKWARE README file? [18:24] chuck norris linux is on kernel 2.28.430 [18:24] i read the man pages and the --help [18:25] what, chuck norris doesn't run gentoo? [18:25] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:26] nope, pi31415. you must be thinking of someone else [18:26] yes, but he's not using gcc but uses cnc, the chuck norris compiler [18:27] which can compile even kde down to less than a meg in size and usually speeds up execution by 200% [18:27] chuck norris aka sysadmin: http://xkcd.com/705/ [18:27] cnc compiles kde 4.4.x onto a floppy [18:28] i have to go, thank you for helping me, sorry i didnt grasp on to much, im unfamiliar with slackware and kde [18:29] slackware01: good luck with it.. should be a config file somewhere [18:29] I don't use wicd myself [18:29] ok ill look into that. thanks [18:30] slackware01 (~slackware@fl-67-232-249-201.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Quit: work [18:31] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:31] v4nelle (~van@79.107.212.2) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:31] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[18:52] hi I just upgradeted to current and I cannot install the nvidia drivers ... it seems I don;t have the kernel sources running hmmm ...I am so boring ,,,,, uhh could someone gimme the script for actualizing the makeinit ? [18:53] that's probably uncommon, but does anyone has the broadcom-sta module for latest -current on 32bit? [18:53] (that'd save me some time) [18:54] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:55] john_dee (~id@95-29-180-98.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:56] slackware-current is the latest build correct? [18:56] yes [18:57] tom___ (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:57] _marc` (~marc@port-92-195-141-206.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:57] john_dee (~id@95-29-189-19.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [18:58] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[19:06] there's a .1 release to address some issues, but i would have expected it to make rc1 [19:07] unless pat's keeping it back for a release-time update [19:07] y0 Zordrak [19:07] yo [19:08] huh please please help me [19:08] alienBOB: ping (re: above) [19:08] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:10] tom___: /usr/share/mkinitrd/mkinitrd_command_generator.sh [19:10] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:10] when in doubt, look in //var/log/packages/mkinitrd-* [19:11] garme (garme@187.68.94.86) joined ##slackware. [19:12] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [19:12] alphageek thanks, you saved my much trouble [19:12] hmm just the makeinitrd faq nor man does says nothing about that [19:13] BrZ (~BrZ@201-67-34-12.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: . [19:13] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:14] yeah, I suppose that could be documented better [19:14] consider it a rite of passage :) [19:14] ok bye [19:14] tom___ (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: BitchX: it keeps going and going and going and going and... [19:16] it's not possible to listen to free streams on itunes without itunes? [19:17] Heya guys. [19:17] hi [19:17] does someone know how to create the initrd file of the installer media? [19:17] Coolmax (~mateusz@ip-94-42-53-253.multimo.pl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:18] Emery (~Emery@cpc3-brmb1-0-0-cust67.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [19:18] echelon: many of those free streams use open standards [19:18] just wondering when 13.1 is due [19:18] Emery, if you read the changelog, it just went beta 1 yesterday [19:18] pi31415, how do i find out? :-/ [19:18] echelon: for example, cliqhop on soma.fm is a free stream in iTunes, but you could also listen to it on slackware using xmms or audacity [19:18] so sometime in the next 3-4 months would be a good guess [19:18] RC 1 [19:19] just didnt wanna install the RC and 13.1 release comes out next week:P [19:19] echelon: don't expect iTunes to give away precious secrets =) [19:19] http://itunes.apple.com/app/x92-9-calgarys-new-rock-alternative/id328085212?mt=8 [19:19] Emery, when it's in rc status, the only difference between rc and next release is bug fixes [19:20] that's the only link the site provides [19:20] and somewhat major bugs at that [19:20] ah neat, so i can upgrade to the release when it's out? [19:20] yep [19:20] via my distro? [19:20] what is your distro? [19:20] soon to be slack ofc [19:20] echelon, you might be better off browsing the free streams in amarok or on icecast [19:20] hrm :/ [19:21] or just using a web based product such as pandora.com or last.fm [19:21] i'm interested specifically in this stream [19:21] because it's regional [19:21] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.169.82.48) joined ##slackware. [19:22] alisonken1home just wondering also, what's the wireless detection like for USB ? [19:23] don't know - I don't use a wireless dongle. all of mine are either built-in or pcmcia [19:23] sec0nd (second@confusion.ironsunrise.com) left irc: Changing host [19:23] sec0nd (second@unaffiliated/sec0nd) joined ##slackware. [19:23] I've used a wireless dongle in slack fine [19:23] echelon, some google reveals http://www.x929.ca/listenlive.php [19:23] Nick change: sec0nd -> coolkehon [19:23] the day of the triffids [19:23] however, if you run 64-bit, it's a pain in the ass.. ndiswrapper requires winxp drivers and I couldn't find 64bit xp drivers.. so no wireless [19:24] ooh.. thanks! [19:24] i dunno why it's not linked directly from the site [19:24] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.62.235) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:24] Nick change: coolkehon -> sec0nd [19:24] raela ndis is the devils work! [19:24] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [19:25] Emery: well I've never tried with kernel drivers for the dongles I have [19:25] whats a good way to monitor my network usage on wlan0 ? [19:25] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@168-103-63-219.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:25] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) joined ##slackware. [19:26] raela i havnt had much trouble with detection, with my belkin G [19:26] strange.. all these radio stations seem to have adopted this use of flv containers with mp4a audio [19:26] entulho (~entulho@189-31-83-156.fnsce704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:27] Emery: well, I have an old encore enuwi-g that I used a few years ago.. tried another one on a computer recently, but there were problems.. it wasn't slack, though [19:28] what other distro's you use? [19:28] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:28] I tried centos for 2 weeks, but there were some issues, so I switched that box to slack [19:28] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [19:29] hate cent too much bloat [19:29] tried Gentoo again the other week, never worth the hassle [19:30] allways endup back with freeBSD [19:30] I use archlinux [19:30] did anyone answere my question because I have lag [19:30] conky? [19:31] nah I want one that will show montly totals etc [19:31] any suggestions on installing this to keep it as "slimmed down" as possible as a starting point? / add only what I need? [19:31] shrug, slackware is the one for me [19:32] TehRabbitt minimal install + fluxbox ? [19:32] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:32] minimal would be no X, either.. :P [19:32] indeed [19:32] Emery: theres an option for minimal install? (first time installing slack... and it's still booting off the slow usb drive) [19:32] lol [19:32] Nick change: sec0nd -> coolkehon [19:32] slackin (~slackin@68.204.232.100) left irc: Read error: Connection timed out [19:33] well just slect what you need, how much more slim do you want :P [19:33] i dont like that slack comes on DVD and so many install CD's [19:33] raela: well I wanna start off with just a plain basic system and build up so I dont end up with things I dont need [19:33] slackin (~slackin@100.232.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:34] i mean like in my gentoo days, it was easy to do that... (it just took WAY too long to compile everything... oh and forget about it if there were dependencies) [19:34] fk Gentoo waste of time [19:34] Emery: agreed haha 3 days of compiling later.... lmao [19:34] exactly [19:34] and for what? [19:35] Eh complete control of what was installed and not installed basically... [19:35] so if you have like OCD and a neatfreak [19:35] then gentoo is your distro i suppose [19:35] Gentoo will die [19:35] just a matter of time [19:35] heh :-\ [19:35] slackware is where it's at i hear [19:35] i mean it is good for *some* things... like embedded systems but that's about all honestly :-\ [19:35] lol [19:35] gentoo? [19:35] for embedded systems? [19:36] yea lol i've had luck with it haha [19:36] then again it was like 5 years ago when I did that 0_o [19:36] Gentoo needs a binary system like debian [19:36] then i'd love it [19:36] http://lwn.net/Articles/384713/ [19:36] Emery: if they had one like debian it'd be amazing [19:37] exactly [19:37] there is gentoo embedded [19:37] but thats why I stopped using it... too hard to figure out "OHHH it needs THIS dependancy" [19:37] it wasn't hard [19:37] just a pain in the ass [19:37] and annoying lol [19:37] i mean there's sabayon [19:37] Gentoo sort of thing [19:37] with a binary system [19:37] just thinking [19:38] if i can install their binary system on gentoo [19:38] uhmm [19:38] meh.... all I know is i still sometimes find myself typing "emerge XYZ" [19:38] lol [19:38] haha [19:38] pkg_add all the way [19:39] then one day my friend shawn was like "omg lemme try.... *emerge sex*" and it actually installed a package called sex and he was like "holy *@(# gentoo can emerge sex?!?" [19:39] yes it's a real package [19:39] lol [19:39] dude [19:39] freelibrary (~notRoot@p548F3F44.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:39] you need to get a life. [19:40] srs. [19:40] Gentoo needs a binary system like debian << so why not Slackware's binary system? [19:41] sahko: do it! [19:41] lol [19:42] nothing ;) [19:42] install slack tomorrow :P [19:42] installing* [19:42] Emery: lmao eh life what's that?!? jkjk... srsly though, do you think a 2.5GB swap is big enough for a machine with 1 GB ram? [19:43] too big i'd say [19:43] plus [19:43] anything above 1gb don't really need one [19:43] hm... true... [19:43] so a 512MB swap would suffice?!? lol [19:43] w.e you like [19:43] i've got 1.5gb ram on this, never setup a swap [19:44] sahko has slackware got a mini install iso ? [19:44] apart from the usb one [19:44] i'm sure it has i've used it befor [19:44] e [19:44] need swap if you want to hibernate [19:46] slackytude could you answer my question ? [19:46] hm? [19:46] oh, no, afaik [19:47] there is the usb and pxe boot image [19:47] hmm i'm sure i've used one befor [19:47] I guess you could burn that to cd as well [19:47] e [19:47] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [19:48] uhm i want the 13.1 RC though =/ [19:48] any D&D players in the channel? [19:48] Emery: alienBOB has some articles about usb in his blog [19:49] usbboot.img 06-May-2010 22:40 31M [19:49] i create custom ones from my local tree, spicing them up with isohybrid [19:49] will that be 13.1? [19:49] http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/pool/1/mirror/slackware/slackware-current/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [19:49] from there [19:49] no, 13.1 isnt released yet [19:49] entulho (~entulho@189-31-83-156.fnsce704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:49] the RC [19:49] no [19:49] why has it got may 2010 date? [19:50] the other usb installer hasnt [19:50] theres a bug with the 32bit 13.1RC1 usbboot. its actually 64bit [19:50] entulho (~entulho@189-31-83-156.fnsce704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:50] there should be fix by tommorow or so [19:50] its not a release, its a release candidate [19:50] i know [19:50] that means, its got everything its gonna have, but not everything is working [19:51] sahko uhmm i can upgrade from 13 to 13.1 when it's out via slack? [19:51] yes [19:51] if you wanna get involved in the debugging its fine to use, otherwise wait until its stable [19:51] i'll stick with 13 till 13.1 [19:51] yes [19:51] =] [19:52] Emery: see the UPGRADE.TXT in the link you posted about how you would be doing it though [19:53] freelibrary (~notRoot@p548F3F44.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:53] ahhh neat [19:53] it should be somewhat similar 13.0->13.1 [19:53] so i COULD install 13 and upgrade to the RC afte [19:53] r [19:54] sure [19:55] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:55] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:55] uhm [19:55] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.208) joined ##slackware. [19:58] Uhhh Ext4?!? [19:58] 0_o [19:58] it's supported? [19:59] Ext4 has been supported by most distro's for quite a while [19:59] since christmas 2009 [19:59] went stable around that time, iirc [20:00] On 11 October 2008, the patches that mark ext4 as stable code were merged in the Linux 2.6.28 source code repositories [20:00] what WM you use slackytude [20:00] Emery: not supported in the stable debian, or gentoo lol [20:00] BP{k}, well, close enough [20:00] Emeau, xfce [20:01] I still like JFS for my storage partition though lol [20:01] Emery, xfce [20:02] entulho (~entulho@189-31-83-156.fnsce704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [20:02] TehRabbitt yes it is supported in gentoo [20:02] Emery: shows how long ago i used gentoo then haha [20:02] ;) [20:02] uhm [20:03] i dont like xfce =[ [20:03] looking for a desktop/wm [20:03] TehRabbitt: and it's not supported in debian stable because that uses 2.2.26 (iirc) [20:03] Emery, what do you use? [20:03] i've tried most [20:03] can never settle with one [20:03] heh [20:04] anyway! [20:04] i shall be back tomorrow with my slack install [20:04] 1am here [20:04] how can I download all the install files for slack onto my local server so i can install over gigabit? [20:04] bedtime for me :P [20:04] PXE? [20:04] or netinstall [20:04] netinstall [20:04] 192.168.1.1 [20:04] ect [20:05] you get the idea i'm sure [20:05] i mean like the slackware mirrors... how can i "grab" a copy of the slackware-current files and host them locally [20:05] (i'm going to be installing on a couple machines I think) [20:05] yes [20:05] TehRabbitt: lftp(1), wget(1), rsync(1) to name a couple of options [20:06] coudl stop being a cheap ass and burn a few cd's off [20:06] cds where deprecated in the 2000s [20:06] lol true.... though it's more that there's going to possibly be 4-5 machines that i'm going to install it at once (to save time) and if I do do that, i'd want the sources local so i'm not clogging my pipe (even though i can handle plenty) [20:06] s/where/were [20:06] anyway bed, pce. [20:07] Emery (~Emery@cpc3-brmb1-0-0-cust67.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: [20:07] Yea, i heard Windows 8 is going to be released on dual double-sided blue ray disks... the basic edition.... jk [20:07] meh [20:08] windows 8 will use managed code and run inside the silverlight plugin in your browser [20:08] TehRabbitt: do all your sentences end or start with lol, haha or jk? [20:08] i still can't get that.... windows XP == ~800GB.... windows vista == 10-12GB... Windows 7== 16-20GB [20:08] like how does an "operating system" need 20 GB of space to operate?!? [20:09] i'd be willing to bet 3/4 of that space are all images / graphics for the GUI lo [20:09] well, there are also the core editions [20:09] Action: BP{k} never knew that XP was near 800 GB? [20:09] BP{k}: yea it's around 800 slimmed down heh [20:09] it was the last OS from MS to use CD's as an install media [20:10] how do you get 800 GB on cd's? need a lot of CD's for that. [20:10] 800 gigamegakilobytes [20:10] trhodes: zomg! [20:10] BP{k}: it's called Compression lol [20:10] CD holds roughly 700MB.... [20:10] installed XP == 800-900MB [20:10] after SP1 and SP2 installed == 1.2GB [20:10] TehRabbitt: uhm ... you kept saying "800 GB" not MB :P ... [20:11] errrr MB :-D [20:11] lisak (~lisak@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:11] typoed haha [20:12] how big *is* the entire slackware mirror for slackware-current if I download all of it [20:12] how much is that in libraries of congress? [20:13] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [20:14] 4.1G slackware64-current/ [20:14] 4.1GB for both [20:14] that is each [20:14] wait 4.1 both or each now lol [20:15] my 32bit is 4.0G [20:15] for each version [20:15] 8.2GB for both together [20:15] including sources [20:17] Chymera (~chymera@mnhm-5f75f537.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] hi, I really need a minimal octave code for plotting a histogram with 2 columns (each with an error bar) from 2 .dat files - does anyone know where I can get it from? [20:18] garme (garme@187.68.94.86) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:18] #octave ? [20:18] lol [20:18] wrong channel? [20:18] Chymera: wrong channel [20:19] what the hell is octave? [20:19] Chymera: weren't you just in #debian asking this? [20:19] Chymera: stop cross-posting. [20:19] LOL [20:20] jgeboski: I'm all over the place :P [20:20] Chymera: try asking the appropriate channel next time. [20:20] slackytude: and yes, I'm also in #octave [20:20] lol [20:20] Chymera: good. Stop bothering us with this, then., [20:21] Chymera: lovely. [20:21] thumbs: goo, stop being so easily bothered then [20:21] talk about meta-reactions :P [20:21] Chymera (chymera@mnhm-5f75f537.pool.mediaWays.net) left ##slackware. [20:21] Chymera: I am not easily bothered. I only hate two things: cross-posters, and away messages. [20:22] finally i was going to suggest a music site [20:23] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. [20:26] uhh trying to install i keep getting "can't open /var/log/mount/treecache/slackware/a etc... [20:27] what are you doing exactly? [20:28] installpkg error #4 [20:28] from the path, I'm assuming a manually mounted device being accessed from the installer [20:28] "There was a fatal error attempting to install /var/log/mount/treecache/slackware/a/cups-1.4.3-i486-1.txz. the package may be corrupt etc etc [20:29] i'm installing via HTTP mirror through netinst using USB boot [20:29] cybErpunk (~davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [20:29] perhaps the message is telling you exactly what is wrong [20:29] borked download [20:29] /var/log/mount ? [20:29] yea that had me confused as well [20:29] slackytude: that path is used pretty much exclusively by the installer [20:30] I see [20:30] andrew_46 (andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) left ##slackware. [20:32] Can anyone donate a pci or agp video card to me? Don't care how old as long as it can do 1680x1050 :D I think my onboard video is fried [20:32] hiptobecubic: it wouild cost more to ship than to buy a new one. [20:32] um.. 1680x1050? [20:32] maybe at 1bpp [20:33] hiptobecubic: get a low-level card, probably for 80-90 bucks [20:33] hit ebay. if you're in canada, hit kijiji.ca [20:33] 90 bucks? pfff. i'm thinking ten at the most [20:34] ok, 10 on ebay [20:34] MarkT- (1000@S010600248c3ee38b.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:34] Would anybody here be able to help me with an ip aliasing issue? [20:35] MarkT-: ask your question. [20:36] I am trying to get a 2nd ip on my network card, one that is on the same subnet as the router so I can ping machines on that subnet [20:36] but when I add an ip, I can't even ping the router, let alone other machines on the lan [20:37] how ? [20:37] how what? [20:37] how did you add the ip? [20:37] ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.1.66 up [20:38] MarkT-: what about the routes? [20:38] I even tried adding the router's ip, 192.168.1.1 as a gateway with the route command, but that didn't help. [20:38] I used the command route add default gw 192.168.1.1 [20:39] which I'm suspecting may be wrong [20:39] that is I suspect the command may be wrong. I have the ip address right for my router. [20:40] that should just work, afaik [20:40] hmmm [20:40] well, it doesn't. [20:41] does ifconfig report the eth0:0 interface with the ip you set? does route -n show the new ip and interface correctly? do you have *any* iptables rules in place? [20:42] it may also be noteworthy that after doing both those commands, the 'route' command by itself hangs. [20:42] route -n shows everything normally though. [20:42] dns lookup failure [20:42] route is slow [20:42] yah... I thought it might be related to dns [20:43] you can add the new network to /etc/networks to fix route's output for the new network [20:43] I don't have any /etc/networks file [20:43] cteg (~heretic@host-091-097-165-085.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: Quit: this is who we are [20:43] Oh, sorry... [20:43] I do. [20:43] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [20:44] okay, I'm feeling a little stupid here... [20:44] what do I need to add to it? [20:44] addin the new network in is easy just copy what is there but change the name to something like localnet2 [20:45] jrodger (~jrodger@203-213-6-68.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:45] oh and the address should match the new network [20:45] ie 192.168.1.0 [20:45] lan 192.168.1.0? [20:45] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:45] hmmm.... will I have to reboot for this to take effect? [20:46] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:46] nope this aint windows [20:46] ok [20:46] can you use dhcp on that interface? [20:47] Yes... I get an ip via dhcp from my ISP, beyond my router. [20:47] huh? [20:47] how does that work [20:48] Um, YDIW. [20:48] I have a port on my router that is dual-homed. [20:48] you need an ip behind your router for your lan, your router may be configurable as a dhcp server [20:48] wait ... is the router actually operating as a bridge? [20:48] Does every box on your LAN get a public ip from your ISP? [20:49] No... only the one on this port. [20:49] All the other ones get IP's on the lan's subnet and are nat'ted. [20:49] router has a switch built in that is the port you refer to? [20:49] Yes. [20:49] The real question is whether you actually need it. [20:50] latemus (~latemus@c-67-177-8-122.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:50] Since you don't know how to configure things that way, then the answer is almost certainly "no." [20:50] blaines_ (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:50] routers switch may no allow traffic in the manner you intend [20:50] actually need what, the public ip? [20:50] MarkT-: yes. [20:50] i think i've opened a can of worms, and shall thus make my exit [20:50] no/not [20:50] Let your router get the public ip. [20:50] My router has a public ip [20:50] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:50] So why does your other machine need one? [20:50] lisak (~lisak@78-136-135-179.client.ufon.cz) joined ##slackware. [20:51] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [20:51] That said, ip(8) plus route(8) will do what you want. [20:52] this router sounds like it has a built in switch that supports vlans and is set up in a way that won't allow the intended traffic to flow [20:52] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:52] WildWizard: No... I've had it working before. [20:52] Possibly - perhaps that call that a DMZ port. [20:52] dimm0k (~dimm0k@pool-98-113-53-189.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] s/that call/they call/ [20:52] The only thing that has changed is that I have a new system [20:53] is there any way to make a script executable but not readable by a user? [20:53] I neglected, however, to note any specific details on how I got it working before... [20:53] dimm0k: yes [20:53] dimm0k: octal 1 [20:54] so now I'm trying to figure out how to get it working with slackware. [20:54] slackytude (~slacky@g227026233.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:55] mode abcd where a->special bits b->owner c->group d->everyone for b,c,d: 4=read 2=write 1=execute for 'a', 4=suid 2=guid 1=sticky [20:55] MarkT-: again, ip(8) and route(8) [20:55] rworkman that doesn't work a script needs to be read in order to be loaded by the interpretor [20:55] try it and see [20:56] rworkman: what i'm trying to do is have a script act as a user's shell, so when they log in, certain things are performed before releasing it to the bash shell... one of the things in the script is to email me of their login [20:56] Well, how aobut that. [20:56] rworkman: unfortunately because my smtp server requires authentication, i have to put that info in the script... [20:56] WildWizard: the distinction between "script" and "binary" didn't occur to me. :) [20:57] lol [20:57] rworkman: so if i have the script set to owner.group as root.root, and the permissions to 751, the user can't execute that script... [20:57] rworkman: I've already referred to those man pages... if I found what I needed there, I wouldn't be asking for more help. Sorry, I don't mean to sound snarky, it's not my intention to be rude or anything, but I really have already rtfm, and I can't figure out what I've done wrong. [20:58] what exactly *is* the point of the IR ports on laptops anyway i never got that... [20:58] like every laptop I own, including my new dell have infared ports [20:58] MarkT-: ip addr add dev <-- start with that. [20:58] TehRabbitt: use it like a remote control :P [20:58] pupiteee: how lmao [20:59] well, those ports can send and receive information [20:59] dimm0k: just curiosity here, but why do you want the be notified and such? [21:00] there are many cool ways to use it like remote controls [21:01] dimm0k: I would have the bash script reference a seperate encrypted file that contains your authentication, or perhaps use a C binary that emails the info, have you tried something like that? [21:01] rworkman: well i'd like to open up my ssh port so i can log in remotely... so i'd like to be notified of ssh logins in case someone else gets in [21:01] dimm0k: your starting a procces from the login point, this means you have a starting point that is operating as root and then changes to the user, what is the login program your using? [21:02] ssh? just saw the other line [21:02] hmmm... ip's added via the 'ip addr add' command don't seem to show up in ifconfig [21:03] dimm0k: you know you can restrict who is able to login via ssh, right? See the AllowUsers and/or DenyUsers directives in sshd_config(5) [21:03] MarkT-: ip addr show [21:03] Yeah, I can see it just fine with that command. [21:03] rworkman: i know... however if someone got a hold of access to an account that is allowed, i'd like to know... [21:03] just find it odd that it doesn't show up in ifconfig [21:04] what i want to do is have a script be designated as a user's shell... the script runs the command to email me, then executes bash... [21:05] dimm0k: how about a CRON job that checks the ssh logs and notifies of successful attempts? [21:06] MarkT-: http://jengelh.medozas.de/2008/0219-ifconfig-sucks.php [21:06] I think a hacker would be smart enough to delete the logs [21:06] smoooth: doing that would give an intruder time to interrupt that... [21:06] So log to a remote host that sets the files a O_APPEND only [21:06] hmmm.... what is a peer? [21:07] slackytude (~slacky@f051113189.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [21:07] lisak (~lisak@78-136-135-179.client.ufon.cz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:08] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:08] that would require setting up a second host... [21:09] because my isp's smtp server requires authentication, my current script contains that info... i would like that to be hidden from user's eyes, yet still be executable by the user... [21:09] hmmm... so why does slackware's rc.inet1 still use ifconfig? [21:10] Nobody's taken the time to convert everything to ip(8) and friends :/ [21:10] sounds like a fun project rworkman let us now when your done [21:10] knwo [21:10] hehe [21:11] irc + dyslexic = pain [21:11] mats (~mats@1-1-9-17a.gkp.gbg.bostream.se) joined ##slackware. [21:12] hi [21:12] Interesting project? Perhaps. Fun project? Probably not. Maybe I'll do it at some point, but probably I'll continue to be a slacker and wait for someone else to do it. [21:12] as we speak about scripts, im interested in some script that informs me if someone is trying to download something from my site that does not exist. like, emailing me about error code 404 from httpd error log and sending me the traceroute ip from that someone or similar? i guess that is doable? [21:12] well, I seem to have the same situation using that command as I did with ifconfig anyways, rworkman [21:12] jhw_ (~jhw@p4FC8DD96.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:13] rworkman: got the new machine up and running. [21:13] MarkT-: can you show the route table in pastebin? [21:13] panzer: ooh, congrats! [21:13] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [21:13] pupitee while it sounds nice the number of 404 messages generated on webservers from hacked machines probing for targets would make it a very very bad idea [21:14] DLing the 13 dvd now. [21:14] rworkman: jussec [21:15] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:15] hold on a few.... telephone. Brb [21:16] something wrong with the usb boot img for slackware-current? [21:16] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8CB14.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:16] TehRabbitt: yeah. [21:16] i keep trying to install and I give it the right http / FTP paths and it turns around and flips out at me saying it can't find them [21:16] it's the 64bit img. [21:16] BP{k}: how does it boot on a 32 bit machine then 0_o [21:16] Heh. [21:17] It doesn't right now - that's just it :) [21:17] ... it's booting on mine 0_o [21:17] just wont install heh [21:17] is it a 64-bit processor? [21:17] 32 bit [21:17] which proc? [21:17] positive of it [21:17] Pentium 4 [21:17] Centrino [21:17] laptop [21:17] WildWizard: well, i do think its a bad idea, but i host only few files, and even if only 2-3 people know about that site, i still get a quite number of visits and 404 codes. for example "- - [15/May/2010:23:37:10 +0200] "GET //phpMyAdmin//scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 404 227" [21:18] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] wotch andarius :) [21:18] greetings and salutations [21:18] hi andarius [21:18] wotcha BP{k} :) [21:18] salutations thrice` [21:18] pupit: by simply having http open to the world, you'll receive blind hits [21:19] tpocra (~kvirc@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:19] I have GRUB legacy installed onto two hard drives' MBRs... they are in RAID-1 and mirror each other and contain my root FS. Should GRUB have root (md0) or root (hd0,0) or something like that? [21:20] alphageek: i take that easy, im just very into scripting these days, having ideas about emailing, tracking etc.. :) [21:20] is it safe to remove the kernel-huge package if i've switched to the generic-kernel? [21:21] mats: make initrd.gz [21:21] read the readme in /boot [21:21] pupit: done [21:21] If you've booted into generic, then yes. [21:21] mats, it's safe, but will probably only save you a few MB [21:22] ok, space is not an issue at the moment [21:22] jabuti (~proc@201009242242.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [21:23] Removing the huge kernel makes the /boot/vmlinuz symlink sure to be left along in future upgrades :) [21:23] dimm0k: simple solution might be using a public smtp like with gmail [21:24] rworkman: yea it is nice. [21:24] rworkman: okay, something's come up here that's a little more urgent than my network configuration. I have to go. My issue isn't solved yet, but I sincerely thank you for your help so far, however. [21:24] Good luck with both then, sir :) [21:24] thank you again [21:25] MarkT- (1000@S010600248c3ee38b.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:25] time to get some sleep, good night everyone and thanks for the info [21:25] g'night mats :) [21:25] mats (~mats@1-1-9-17a.gkp.gbg.bostream.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:26] yea rworkman I don't have but half the ram I specced yet but I am working on it. like I said grabbing slack 13 again. [21:27] i have 64 console-kit-daemon --no-daemon processes. whats yours? [21:28] 1 [21:28] try htop [21:29] Is that different than ps(1) output? [21:29] glarb (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:29] yes. pid 1713-1777 is console-kit-daemon here [21:29] glarb (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:30] smooth, doesn't smtp.gmail.com require an account login as well? [21:31] dimm0k: it might, not sure, just create an account just to use their smtp if it requires, use it to send the email to your real email address [21:31] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6AFA0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:32] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:32] smooth, sort of like a dummy account eh? that might just work! [21:32] Hrm, pstree output looks interesting [21:32] |-console-kit-dae---63*[{console-kit-dae}] [21:33] yes, that would have saved me the manual count [21:35] goj (~goj@p5488F6DE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:35] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:35] What would you like to bet that it has something to do with the fact we have /dev/tty0 through /dev/tty63? :) [21:36] Ah, that probably has nothing to do with it. [21:36] I'm mildly curious now as to where the number of tty's is defined, but not curious enough to actually investigate since I don't see any ill effects. [21:36] jkwood: you're probably right. Just a coincidence :) [21:37] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/148454 [21:37] rworkman: You've probably been drinking. I'm right almost as often as rob0. [21:37] Wow. [21:37] That's impressive. ;) [21:38] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=457845#c1 [21:38] j0z (~j0z@201.22.17.84.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:38] rworkman: hey mr workman :) [21:38] estranho (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) joined ##slackware. [21:38] estranho (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) left irc: Changing host [21:38] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [21:38] how are you [21:38] ? [21:39] jabuti (~proc@201009242242.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:39] hiding userland threads (within htop) seems to be a workaround [21:40] Action: jkwood facepalms [21:40] j0z (~j0z@201.22.25.100.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:40] HIDING THE PROBLEM IS NOT A WORKAROUND [21:40] tell that to a particular company in redmond :) [21:41] mind.. for them, hiding the problem is the _solution_ [21:42] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:42] there is no problem, that is a feature above your skill level :P [21:42] Action: arenics test [21:43] hmm aaa_base is trying to create some symlinks that are no longer required [21:43] No when there is a problem, you don't hide it, you make it feature! Console-kit complete with 63 seperate threads! [21:43] your test has failed, please log off and come back to try again [21:44] WildWizard: /usr/X11R6.bak? [21:44] no /var/X11 [21:44] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/148454/comments/65 [21:44] gar0t0: ola :) [21:45] WildWizard: that was broken before 13.0 and I reported it then but never heard anything about it. :( [21:45] hmm.. [21:45] rworkman: are you ok ? [21:46] I think I'll pull the .ttf fonts from my soon-to-be wiped windows 7 starter install (on the netbook) & put them to use. I paid for them, after all [21:47] alphageek: why not. :) [21:47] alphageek, you may have paid for them, but I don't think you read the fine print :) [21:48] alisonken1home: you're right. I never even saw the EULA [21:48] ergo, it's not binding :) [21:49] j0z (~j0z@201.22.25.100.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:49] gar0t0: alive! :) [21:50] dimm0k (~dimm0k@pool-98-113-53-189.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:51] JMHO, but the console-kit-daemon "bug" isn't. It can be implemented *better* now after the changes to VT_WAITACTIVE in the kernel, but it wasn't a bug. [21:51] maybe this is the most interesting discussion http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17720 [21:51] its just 'suboptimal behaviour' [21:52] how does one disable the nepomuk server from running in kde? I disabled in the setting both the process is still running, how shoud I keep the process from loading? [21:52] ylj [21:52] i dont think you can [21:53] what does the "desktop search" disable do then? [21:53] rworkman: this the massive thread count? [21:53] if it doesn't stop the process then I might as well have it running lol [21:53] http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17720#c17 [21:53] NaCl: yes ^ [21:54] those console-kit discussions are interesting. free software can be frustrating. [21:54] yeah, thats the most interesting reply [21:55] pi31415: only cause you get to know about it. if if were closed you wouldnt [21:55] Lennart is the pulseaudio guy, btw. [21:55] Would be wonderful if you and your Ubuntu friends might contribute good [21:55] code once in a while instead of just complaining for 3 years straight... ;-) [21:55] :O [21:55] And why couldn't they have just done this right to begin with? [21:55] sahko, good point [21:56] thrice`, whose ubuntu friends? [21:56] that was a quote from Lennart [21:56] (who is employed by red hat of course) [21:56] j0z (~j0z@187.58.246.26) joined ##slackware. [21:57] rworkman: The pulseaudio guy is griping at Ubuntu? Boy, the hits keep coming. [21:58] AND he's involved with ck? Someone, put him out of my misery. [21:59] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:59] http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/6/29/487 [22:01] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [22:02] wow that lennart fix is from 2009, and nothing done yet? [22:02] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:02] thrice`, there are some real programmers working at red hat [22:03] http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1224639&cid=27852719 [22:03] http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1224639&cid=27852833 [22:03] W9ZEB (lars@unaffiliated/w9zeb-lars) left ##slackware. [22:09] is this a bug in current? locate: fatal error: Could not find user database '/var/lib/slocate/slocate.db': No such file or directory [22:10] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.208) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [22:11] nevermind [22:11] pupit, updatedb as root [22:11] kk [22:11] echelon: yeah, found that, doing it now [22:11] :) [22:13] j0z (~j0z@187.58.246.26) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:13] j0z (~j0z@187.58.246.26) joined ##slackware. [22:14] j0z (~j0z@187.58.246.26) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:14] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:15] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:17] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.208) joined ##slackware. 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[22:34] pupiteee (~p@109.92.252.165) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:39] escaflow1 (~escaflown@S0106002275b651fe.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] iceheart (~root@221.235.188.79) joined ##slackware. [22:43] when i login kde "cannot open consolekit session: unable to open session: launch helper exited with unknown return code 127", current-version [22:43] escaflown (~escaflown@S0106002275b651fe.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [22:45] what's wrong? [22:47] KDE sucks ^^ [22:48] why? [22:48] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:49] do not understand clearly [22:49] pi31415 (~rootabaga@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401074458] [22:49] escaflow1 (~escaflown@S0106002275b651fe.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:49] how to solve it [22:49] iceheart: let me guess: you installed kde from slackware-current onto slackware 13.0? [22:49] escaflown (~escaflown@S0106002275b651fe.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:50] yes [22:50] That was stupid. [22:50] why? [22:50] Why would you expect it to work? [22:50] Obviously you don't understand the difference between -stable releases and our -current tree. [22:50] i like kde :P [22:51] -current is development. It's where the Slackware team does *development* leading to the next -stable release. It's NOT for someone who "like[s] kde" or wants the latest versions of all the packages. [22:51] at least, it should work, isn't it? [22:51] No, it shouldn't. [22:51] It's like installing Windows 7 programs onto Windows Vista. [22:52] good point [22:55] Action: jkwood installs Windows 7 programs on rworkman [22:56] Action: andarius installs windows 7 on jkwood [22:57] Action: fire|bird installs Windows Millenium Edition on andarius [22:57] iceheart (~root@221.235.188.79) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:57] Action: rworkman segfaults [22:57] Action: raela installs ubuntu on fire|bird [22:57] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-164-126.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:57] Action: andarius returns a BSOD :( [22:57] raela, now that's just cruel and unusual punishment. [22:58] and ME isn't? :P [22:58] better a buntu than ME, man... show me some mercy :P [22:58] lol [22:58] iceheart (~root@221.235.188.79) joined ##slackware. [22:58] Action: fire|bird installs Windows 3.1 on raela [22:58] Action: raela comes screeching to a halt at all of these fancy colors.. [23:03] j0z (~j0z@189.58.23.136.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:03] o, who can help [23:08] rworkman im tired of stupid windows 7, im getting a second ssd so i can try slack as my primary [23:08] and just boot to windows for random shit.. i dont think i'll survive [23:08] iceheart, go back to console mode, remove kde, then install kde from 13.0 rather than -current [23:08] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@168-103-63-219.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] is there a way to check which modules are currently loaded by the kernel? [23:09] raha, lsmod comes to mind [23:09] in a console session [23:11] ty [23:13] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [23:13] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [23:16] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-164-126.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:17] iceheart (~root@221.235.188.79) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [23:18] stunix (1000@85.19.183.21) joined ##slackware. [23:18] iceheart (~root@221.235.188.79) joined ##slackware. [23:20] Sylvester_Ink (~sylvester@adsl-69-105-140-246.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-181-89-30.range86-181.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [23:22] Hi all, I'm a longtime Ubuntu user, and I've been considering installing Slackware [23:22] I was wondering if I could ask a couple of questions . . . [23:23] regarding the thread count of consolekit, why are you upset about it? [23:24] Sylvester_Ink, Just go ahead and ask, no need to get permission first... [23:24] slackytude (~slacky@f051113189.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:24] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:25] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-181-89-79.range86-181.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [23:25] i think people don't really understand linux memory mgmt and process mgmt [23:25] Okay, first off, I hear that all packages need to be installed manually. I don't mind doing this, but what about keeping packages updated? [23:25] Sylvester_Ink: however donations in beer are appreciated. [23:26] Will slivovitz do? [23:26] Sylvester_Ink: there are various tools for that, either slackpkg or upgradepkg. you just tell the tools what package to upgrade and voila. [23:26] Sylvester_Ink: I am not fussy when it comes to free beer. ;) [23:27] Sylvester_Ink: upgrades to packages (ie security updates are released by Pat and announced on the security mailinglist. [23:27] Sylvester_Ink, you can also put yourself on the slackware security mailing list [23:27] might not be a bad idea [23:27] rworkman also it's not JMHO, it is the consensus view of the kernel and *kit devs [23:27] BP{k}: but since there are no repositories, like the apt system, wouldn't the user need to regularly check the websites of the projects [23:27] oh, answered my question [23:28] mancha: yes, I noticed that as I read farther along. It was "JMHO" very early in the process :) [23:28] Sylvester_Ink: unlike ubuntu/debian etc, there aren't that many official repositories... mostly official mirrors. For third party packages (or build scripts), there is slackbuilds.org who are very good (shameless plug), and some others as well. [23:28] and there are repositories for 3rd party packages at slackbuilds.org, though it's building from source rather than installing binaries [23:29] holy simultaneity batman! [23:29] slakmagik: :) [23:29] heh [23:29] Sylvester_Ink, also bookmark something like: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-[whatever version you use] [23:29] when i upgrade, it's broken, so it doesn't work [23:29] rworkman :) the footprint is minimal too, so i see not tangible impact. [23:30] s/not/no/ [23:30] what about proprietary packages, such as video drivers (in case they are needed) [23:30] go to nvidia or wherever [23:30] slackware does not provide prop drivers, afaik [23:30] or try slackbuilds, or slacky.eu or linuxpackages [23:30] Sylvester_Ink: nvidia drivers install much without problems but even there SlackBuilds.org hosts buildscripts to make packages for that. [23:31] hoobop: please .. *really* do not recommend linuxpackages. [23:31] he did put them last, at least ;) [23:31] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [23:31] Okay, I use ATI, but I assume it's the same situation [23:31] BP{k}, it'll do in a pinch :) [23:31] although i agree [23:31] not the best place to go [23:32] iceheart (root@221.235.188.79) left ##slackware ("‚»"). [23:32] hoobop: Only when that pinch means your nails get pulled out with a plier if you don't have a package installed in the next 5 seconds. ;) [23:32] lmao [23:32] fair enough [23:32] hoobop, it is compiled stuff so you need to have a degree of trust. in the past they've done stuff that would erode trust in normal people [23:32] (and we've all had those moments -- don't say you haven't!) [23:32] mancha: hold on .. are you saying I am normal? [23:32] Okay, moving on. Does the latest version of Slackware use ext4? Or do I have to set that up after I install slackware? [23:33] normal people AND BP{k} [23:33] Sylvester_Ink: the installer supports Ext4 and other filesystems [23:33] ext4 by default, yep [23:33] mancha, you know, when i go there, i tend to look for ken z.'s packages [23:33] mancha: thank you. ;) [23:33] only ones i trust [23:33] BP{k} anytime! :) [23:33] Awesome! What about choosing between Grub and Lilo? [23:33] lilo, imo [23:33] pick your poison, both work. [23:33] lilo, definitely [23:34] Why is Lilo preferred? [23:34] Sylvester_Ink: lilo is the preferred bootloader and is part of ths tandard install. However grub is included, so can be installed as well. [23:34] and that's the default - you can install grub if you want, though [23:34] hoobop, Ken is pretty good, I have never had a problem with his packages. I used to submit a lot of packages to LP.net, but stopped because the whole system really is very broken [23:34] 99% of people here use lilo (as that is slack's default) so you're likely to find ready support for lilo here in channell [23:34] lilo is simple and basic and works [23:34] agree with slackmagik [23:34] btw, ext{2,3,4}, jfs, reiserfs, and xfs are your fs choices [23:34] brtfs! [23:35] haha, btrfs . . one day [23:35] one day? it is the official meego fs! [23:35] isn't btrfs still maturing though? [23:36] like everything and everyone else [23:36] and ext4 is what? a 90 year old grandpa? [23:36] heh [23:36] yes, it is still "experimental" but i think it is ready for prime time, if you're more cautious you'lll prolly go ext3 or some other i guess :> [23:37] Okay, what about the latest version of KDE? From what I gather, 4.4 is pretty much near where 3.5 was. I'm assuming updating it via slackbuilds should be easy [23:37] btrfs is maturing nicely most normal people (and BP{k}) would agree.... [23:37] kde 4.4 sure is slick [23:38] mancha: I'll probably stick with ext4 for now, but I definitely plan to use btrfs one day [23:38] Sylvester_Ink: kde 4.4 is only in the devel version of Slackware. theres no isos for that [23:38] not sure it's up to where 3.5 was, when you take the apps into account [23:38] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) joined ##slackware. [23:38] sahko: yeah, I saw that the current version comes with 4.2 or something like that. But upgrading shouldn't be any issue, right? [23:39] maybe [23:39] Good enough! :D [23:40] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [23:40] Sylvester_Ink: upgrading to KDE 4.4 while running slackware 13.0 might cause problems and breakage as KDE 4.4 is compiled against a lot of other/newer software and libraries. [23:40] have you all heard of the exploit that'll f*ck any windows box regardless of what antivirus, malware, firewall stuff they are running? [23:41] doesn't alienBOB have packages for that, though? (don't use kde, myself) [23:41] mancha, this is news [23:41] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) joined ##slackware. [23:41] slakmagik: its in current now [23:41] anyway, 13.1 will be out Real Soon Now When It's Ready and have 4.4.3 or whatever [23:41] mancha, are you being serious? [23:41] slakmagik: so should I just wait for 13.1 and install that instead? [23:42] Sylvester_Ink, that would seem prudent [23:42] if a new kde is important to you, maybe so [23:42] it'll give you a chance to get a feel for things [23:42] look around a bit [23:42] hoobop yes. it is called: khobe earthquake [23:42] so is it a registry attack? [23:42] (that seems the most vulnerable part of windows) [23:42] nope, kernel hook attack [23:43] King_Ozzy (King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) left ##slackware. [23:43] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) joined ##slackware. [23:43] hmmm... and MS isn't on it yet (the last thing they can afford is to have 7 fail) [23:43] add "?" [23:43] khobe=kernel hook bypassing engine [23:43] Okay, final question. I have 2 hard drives in the computer. One contains my windows install, and the other will eventually contain slack. If I set up the Slack hard drive as my primary, will the MBR of the other hard drive be left alone? [23:43] sorry [23:44] Meaning that if I reset the windows hard drive as primary, it would ignore lilo and boot straight to windows [23:44] the only thing that messes up MBR is windows [23:44] Yeah, exactly [23:44] you should use lilo to boot everything [23:44] but that aside [23:45] King_Ozzy (King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) left ##slackware. [23:45] I'm just thinking in case, for some reason I have any problems I can just jump back to my windows install in an emergency [23:45] (A horrible thing to say among linux users, I know) [23:46] you're overthinking. linux is all about jumping into the deep end of the pool! [23:46] lol [23:46] nice [23:46] well, there are live disks for recovery if you have to - and you're more likely to need to recover Windows than Slack. [23:47] well the other thing is if I need to reformat windows, it would overwrite the MBR [23:47] By juggling the two hard drives, I can let windows overwrite the mbr of one, and then just switch back to the one with Lilo [23:48] Sylvester_Ink, why don't you image windows (and slack for that matter once in)? [23:48] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:48] I don't know what Windows does, but just reformatting shouldn't affect the mbr [23:48] i think he means the reinstall [23:48] slakmagik: sorry, I meant reinstalling [23:48] that does [23:49] oh, okay [23:49] hoobop: sometimes it's necessary to do a fresh start of windows (for obvious reasons) [23:50] an image would have my current setup, which is not ideal [23:50] (But tolerable) [23:50] image the initial install, then [23:51] still better to have it take ten minutes than the 1-2 hours [23:51] true enough [23:51] But, if I needed it, the other method would still be possible, right? [23:52] well, the thing is, even if windows overwrites the mbr, you can restore lilo [23:52] you don't really lose anything [23:52] you just have to redo lilo [23:52] via a bootdisk, I assume? [23:52] via disc 1 of the slackware set [23:52] install dvd is bootable [23:52] what he said [23:53] Ah, okay. [23:53] Well, I think that's everything . . . [23:53] I really appreciate all the advice! [23:53] good luck with the setup [23:53] cool - hope you have fun! [23:53] thanks. I expect I will! [23:53] Later all! [23:54] Sylvester_Ink (~sylvester@adsl-69-105-140-246.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:56] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:00] --- Sun May 16 2010