[00:00] hehe, i've been drinking my port like beer. [00:00] :P [00:00] what, swig the bottle? ;) [00:00] well...ah..... [00:00] Action: agentc0re goes for another swig [00:00] NO... [00:00] wine in a box, when you finish it, you can then use the plastic bladder as a pillow! [00:00] ... [00:00] HAHA [00:01] never heard that before, but now i will be sure to put that in the memory box somewhere. [00:01] That will fix next to, Don't drink cooking wine.... It's not the same. [00:01] Action: BP{k} opens this weeks session of ##AASlackware. [00:01] lol [00:02] you kinda have to be an alcoholic to run slack dont you? :P [00:02] BP{k}: I'll drink to that. [00:03] new marketing material: 9 out of 10 drunks prefer slackware [00:03] 10 out of 10 slackware users prefer alcohol? [00:03] sneeedle: no, but it does help at times. [00:03] mancha: could you imagine? i'd be like trolls in here but not. [00:03] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. 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[01:18] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:18] BP{k}: I just woke up and have to go ;-) [01:18] but true I don't have enough [01:18] BP{k}: in my case, the desk is in an isolated room that gets a _lot_ of the server A/C with none of the server heat [01:20] really cold shower, and it's like < 2°C outside [01:21] should rise up to 8°C this afternoon.... [01:21] woot, tomorrow should be negative [01:22] awesome [01:22] I will trade you Southern California weather for your weather. [01:24] Camarade_Tux: is the water frozen in the pipes? [01:24] sorry, was reading scrollback. but that might be why you have no hot water. ;P [01:25] godling: not yet I think [01:25] godling: no, you really don't want [01:25] to [01:25] at least, the day is rising [01:29] but I get my hot water from a heater inside my home [01:31] gotta go, bbl :) [01:32] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. 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[01:54] neonflux (n=neonflux@209.19.58.106) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:54] n64 rocks [01:54] zelda the ocarina of time and so on were great games :))) [01:55] I enjoyed killer instinct gold on the 64 [01:55] Conker's Bad Fur Day...great for a laugh [01:57] heret|c (n=heretic@c-68-32-70-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:57] <3 killer instinct [01:57] ive been hearing about conker [01:58] but damnit those are both n64 [01:59] what genre, archiebenedict? [01:59] archiebenedict: you came 'cross a PS1 system? modded? [01:59] There are several great games for the PS1 [01:59] godling, any genre. [01:59] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:59] i liked metal gear solid, gran turismo, final fantasy 7, and resident evel [01:59] s/evel/evil [02:00] MLanden: Conker's is hilarious, but that is for N64. [02:00] i know,godling...emeau was mentioning some n64 games [02:01] since ps1 probably had the biggest selection of games since the original NES, i'd be a fool to believe that i've already played all the best ones [02:01] jet moto was fun [02:02] archiebenedict: you can convert games for ps1 to psp now [02:02] archiebenedict: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_fantasy_tactics [02:02] hmmm, tactics [02:02] <3 [02:03] ofc, you cannot use all of their functions like multiplayer gaming [02:03] see ya [02:03] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [02:03] maybe i should get a psp [02:04] archiebenedict: just googlin around... http://www.psxa2z.com/ pretty thorough list [02:04] theres a couple games that i want to try for psp. ps1 games is a bonus [02:05] anyone tried that beaterator game for psp? [02:06] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[02:22] joannis (n=joannis@80.253.189.213) left irc: "leaving" [02:22] im going to frighten as many people as possible [02:23] i'm going to sleep with as many slutily dressed girls as possible. [02:26] damn. thats a much better plan [02:26] it takes a lot of skill though [02:27] so my numpad doesnt work anymore [02:27] Reticenti: numlock [02:27] spook: doesnt do anything but toggle the light [02:27] ' [02:29] i hit numlock and some numbers, and nothing, hit it again and numbers and nothing again [02:29] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-257-1-82-237.w86-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:30] so... [02:32] spook, only skill necessary is mixing crappy drinks that chicks like but get them drunk before they notice [02:34] nah anyone can do that. [02:34] i'm the one that gets drunk, and sleep with sober chicks [02:35] so how do i get my numpad to work again? [02:37] Reticenti: does the light to numlock stay on? 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[02:48] MLanden: xev registers the keystroke [02:50] Reticenti: What application were you trying to use the numeric keyboard with? [02:50] MLanden: it broke while using angband, but it's broken in everything now [02:51] Reticenti: even in a text file? [02:51] nothing [02:51] not in terminal, firefox, mouspad [02:52] mipz0r (n=guilherm@189.6.150.148) left irc: Client Quit [02:54] alphad64_ (n=alphad@41.207.31.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:00] Reticenti: what kind of keyboard is it? ps/2,usb...corded cordless? [03:00] ps2 [03:02] Reticenti: what [03:03] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:04] Reticenti: sorry....when you press the 5 key in the numeric keypad in xev...does it register as keycode 84 (keysym 0xffb5, KP_5)? [03:06] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:06] and with the numlock key off as keycode 84 (keysym 0xff9d, KP_Begin) [03:06] let me check [03:07] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [03:07] Action: lf4 o/ hellow there. [03:08] heya,lf4 [03:08] How are things going MLanden? [03:08] alright thanks lf4 and you? [03:09] Things are going well, been busy. [03:09] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.40.82) joined ##slackware. [03:09] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:09] glad to hear,lf4 [03:09] morning [03:09] MLanden: it does not [03:10] Mornin',slackytude [03:10] had to call in sick today [03:10] Axius (n=fd@92.84.29.68) joined ##slackware. [03:10] y0 MLanden [03:10] Morning slackytude [03:10] y0 lf4 [03:10] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-50.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:10] lf4, doing graveyarrd shift again? [03:10] slackytude: lol you feeling lazy today or really sick? [03:11] Reticenti: might need to get a replacement keyboard [03:11] slackytude: Alaways have been haha but surprisingly they started giving us work to do. Plus I've been busy with other things. [03:11] dont have one :\ [03:11] MLanden: all the other keys work around it, but 5 doesnt work for some reason [03:12] actually I just woke up 15 min earlier and would be hours to late to office. also, I only work 4 hours till 12:00. so, I called in sick. It sucks :( [03:13] Reticenti: nothing at all registers?...had one keyboard that before it kicked the bucket..would register once every 40 clicks [03:13] MLanden: something registers, but its not 5 [03:13] lf4, work during graveyard shift? are they mad? [03:14] slackytude: Only 2hrs late :P you could have gone in. but I know how you feel. [03:14] Reticenti: What's the keycode and the keysym? [03:14] let me get that... [03:14] Yeah haha actaully it was just a few new processes that we had to do and getting use to it was my focus. [03:15] lf4, two hours to drive to work and back and two hours to work. not to mention how embarrasing it is to oversleep two hours. rather claim sicknes [03:15] slackytude: you drive 2hrs to work!?!?! [03:16] no, one hour each [03:16] oh ok [03:16] to work and back [03:16] well, roughly an hour [03:16] good call lol, sick day is much better. [03:16] Action: slackytude nods [03:16] I need a third alarm clocl [03:17] oh well, guess I could so some stuff around the house or something [03:17] Action: lf4 orders a mini big ben for slackytude [03:17] MLanden: http://pastebin.com/da659632 [03:17] lf4, cool ^-^ [03:17] slackytude: lol and be productive haha i guess so. [03:18] Reticenti: alright..give me a second [03:19] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:19] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [03:19] here's a better version MLanden http://pastebin.com/d3cb9337a [03:20] and thats with numlock on [03:20] fun with xev? [03:20] lf4, uni has just started and already I fall back to a students life [03:21] mancha: my numpad isnt working :\ [03:21] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-175.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:22] slackytude: haha thats the way it goes, darn lazy students. :) I dont' start school until Jan and even then I have to figure out a lot since my gf and I are planning a weddings in Feb. [03:22] MLanden: regardless of numlocks status, the numpad moves the mouse cursor [03:22] lf4, whoa [03:23] and 5 is a left click [03:23] lf4, bachelor days are soon over, eh? [03:23] and num lock toggles 5 being right/left click [03:24] http://get.qtsoftware.com/qt/source/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.1.tar.bz2 <- is this link working for you guys? [03:24] slackytude: Yeah but then again I never really had them, I was always a nerd and busy with tech stuff. [03:24] lf4: i feel sorry for you. [03:24] hey init[1] [03:24] lf4: yo :) [03:24] spook: lol I don't [03:24] Ret, what're the symptoms? [03:24] init[1]: hows it going? [03:24] lf4, eh, fair enuff [03:24] lf4: where have you been ! [03:24] y0 spook, init[1] [03:24] lf4: me fine , playing with Qt ;D [03:25] slackytude: yo ;) [03:25] what you up to, hipsters? [03:25] slackytude: lf4 is that link working for you ? [03:25] Reticenti: under settings>>accessibility>>mouse..is mouse emulation clicked on? [03:25] no [03:26] init[1], no# [03:26] init[1]: testing now... [03:26] init[1]: bad request so no its not working. [03:26] \0/, found a dead link ! [03:26] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/development/qt-doc/ [03:26] lol init[1] why were you looking for one? [03:27] lf4: documentation [03:27] ;) [03:27] haha i see [03:27] Action: init[1] gona catch my bus,off to college ,cya guys :) [03:27] lots of the fancy de's have a mouse-via-numpad thing in their configs that you can toggle, is this the prob? [03:27] man, its cold [03:27] later init[1] [03:27] slackytude: How cold is cold? [03:27] mancha: where would i check? [03:28] lf4: cya [03:28] check mouse settings in your de, what de do you use? [03:28] Nick change: init[1] -> init[0] [03:28] quit [03:28] slash [03:28] mancha: xfce [03:29] dot [03:29] lf4, -2 C [03:29] time for the winter clothes [03:30] have you checked the mouse settings? [03:30] yeah, nothing seems weird [03:30] slackytude: thats a nice chilly temp. :) [03:30] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [03:30] Action: slackytude nods [03:30] Reticenti: try shift-ctrl-numlock see if that changes anything [03:30] Ret, try shift+numlock [03:31] no control there mlanden [03:31] 8wow [03:31] shit-ctrol-num worked [03:31] shift* [03:31] ctrl [03:31] hrmm, its been a while but shift-numlock should work, try it without control [03:31] you people are amazing [03:31] xfce forum had it listed [03:31] http://www.thefuckingweather.com/?zipcode=darmstadt [03:31] Kamel- (n=1@173-132-7-1.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [03:31] its fucking cold [03:31] ah yeah,m shift-num works too [03:32] Kamel (n=1@173.132.6.75) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [03:32] slackytude: yup. [03:32] yeah, the control is not affecting the command. guess the xfce forum had a typo [03:32] darmstadt germany? [03:32] i was playing angband, so i was holding shift to run, and i hit num, that's prolly what happene [03:32] jhw, aye [03:32] Action: jhw waves from hamburg ;) [03:32] mancha: musta been [03:33] Ret, yep, you inadvertently triggered the functionality [03:33] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [03:34] crazy [03:34] well, thanks, now i kn ow [03:35] as well as I...:D.....congrats,reticenti [03:36] thanks [03:36] jhw, greetings ^-^ fucking cold for you as well? [03:36] its fucking alright [03:37] An Eskimo would beat your ass to be here [03:37] spook, where you at again? [03:37] fucking cold, yes. but i like it [03:37] slackytude: perth, WA [03:38] its only 46 F here [03:38] well, Im freezing my ass off [03:38] you and your silly F [03:38] its 286K here [03:38] F temp, best temp [03:38] Reticenti: no, its the stupidest [03:39] are you threatening the msot powerful country in the world? [03:39] WE HAVE NUKES [03:39] MAD. nukes mean shit [03:39] all it means is no one can beat you, doesnt help you win [03:40] you and your crazy metric system [03:40] SI [03:41] my measurement system can beat up your measurement system [03:41] no, it can't. [03:41] yes [03:42] our water boils at a higher number [03:42] clearly meaning our system is way better [03:42] you go into negatives, and my system is still postive [03:42] (for temp) [03:43] no, water boiling is dependant on air pressure, not temperature [03:43] the number will always be higher in F though [03:43] water in a vacuum will boil. [03:43] (if the pressure is the same) [03:45] you can't argue with this logic [03:46] F is better than C because the numbers are bigger in F [03:46] for the same average kinetic energy [03:46] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.217) left irc: "Leaving" [03:47] ... [03:47] kelvin by that reasoning is the ebst. [03:47] i use kelvin [03:47] FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU [03:47] water boils at 373.15K @ 1 atm [03:48] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [03:48] life stops at 0k...:D [03:49] lol [03:49] i think it stops way before that lol [03:49] lol [03:49] did you know that matter doesnt actually vanish when it's at 0K? [03:49] nothing can be 0K [03:50] why? [03:50] it would have no kinetic energy. [03:50] ah, but that's where you're wrong [03:50] the atoms will still jiggle within a little [03:50] no, they wont [03:50] thats what the scale is based on [03:51] at absolute zero all molecular motion does not cease but does not have enough energy for transference to other systems. It is therefore correct to say that at 0 kelvin molecular energy is minimal. [03:51] no, you're wrong [03:51] there is still movement [03:51] just not enough for the flow of energy [03:52] with no kinetic energy, it cannot transfer energy, so what i said is correct [03:52] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:52] lol....How COLD do you want your beer to be? [03:53] Axius (n=fd@92.84.29.68) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:54] bury the beer, light a fire on top of the sand, drink the cold beer [03:55] plop_ (i=51fcb5a2@gateway/web/freenode/x-cuguiynagvjlwebd) joined ##slackware. [03:55] hello all :) [03:55] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-175.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:57] heya ,plop_ [03:57] welp, im going to bed [03:57] nn [03:57] Reticenti: night [03:57] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:57] hacfed (n=fed@host86-131-171-3.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:58] hi MLanden [04:00] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [04:02] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:04] passenger22 (n=g3nk0@92.56.130.140) joined ##slackware. [04:04] passenger22 (n=g3nk0@92.56.130.140) left ##slackware. [04:09] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. 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[04:26] fatalnix1995 (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:26] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:26] slackytude: today's sinfest is even better than yesterday's ;p [04:27] Action: Camarade_Tux will now try to get a connection that doesn't block ssh, he has a git push to do [04:27] aye ^-^ [04:28] I like yesterdays more tho [04:28] godling: give more details: when does it crash? all modules? [04:28] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:28] slackytude: well they come together ;) [04:28] isps that block ssh? thats quite lame [04:28] Its so wrong, depraved, so dirty! [04:29] Camarade_Tux: /usr/bin/soffice, but apparently /usr/bin/openoffice.org3 is not. [04:29] slackytude: the part I love the most is the explanation of the story of Jesus ;) [04:29] (I am using it now) [04:29] mancha: nah, school [04:29] mancha: and only on parts of the network [04:29] I'm going to lobby quite a lot to get that "fixed" [04:29] still lame, why block ssh? [04:29] godling: huh, what? [04:30] mancha: "security concerns" [04:30] where his dad slept with an undeling, got her pregnant and aranged to kill his son [04:30] Camarade_Tux: it crashes when I start it using /usr/bin/soffice, but not /usr/bin/openoffice.org3. [04:30] Camarade_Tux: I know what you meant when you asked which module was crashing, but I've only tried OOo writer, so I can only say that it is the one crashing. [04:34] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) joined ##slackware. [04:38] hop, through ssh this time :) [04:38] godling: after how long? [04:40] Camarade_Tux: immediately [04:41] Camarade_Tux: it either crashes or hangs with me having to kill the process [04:41] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:41] night,folks...take care [04:42] godling: and what was that thing about soffice vs openoffice.org3? [04:42] one crashes but not the other? [04:42] I ran it from urxvt but received no messages [04:42] night MLanden :) [04:42] yes, soffice crashes [04:42] soffice -writer <-- hangs? [04:42] godling: strace? [04:42] mancha: just soffice [04:42] no switch [04:42] well thats incomplete [04:43] if you want the writer app, it's "soffice -writer" [04:43] it's never been a problem in previous versions; that always loaded OOo [04:44] hrm. it did not crash just now. this is odd behavior. [04:45] this is annoying to trace. nevermind about the issue. thanks anyways. [04:45] anyone know how you usually start a "session" dbus-daemon? I don't use a DE so I don't have any beside the "sytem" one [04:45] doesn't "soffice" load a welcome screen? [04:46] fuck. now I just tried to open the document I was just working on and it crashed (using openoffice.org3) [04:46] yes Camarade_Tux [04:46] at least it used to [04:46] it just opened a document recovery screen but listed no documents to be recovered [04:47] your previous kill of the hanged process did that [04:47] abionnnn (i=1000@202-89-188-44.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:47] no, mancha [04:47] ok, im outta this discussion. good luck. [04:47] I said I had successfully launched openoffice.org3, and with that I was editing a text document. [04:48] it was saved and I exited. Now it's crashing when It ry to open it. [04:48] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [04:48] perhaps I can create new documents but not open them. I will see. [04:48] when you try to open the document or even if you start with a clean document? [04:48] I just started a new document successfully [04:48] greets [04:49] godling: have you used 3.1.0? [04:49] godling: might be a problem with the document, is it odf? [04:49] heya The-Croupier :) [04:49] Action: Camarade_Tux loves zsh [04:50] Action: Camarade_Tux makes loves to his zsh [04:51] Camarade_Tux: If you mean .odt then yes, it isn't .doc or anything like that. [04:51] Camarade_Tux: I did copy this from another older file in which I had already set formatting and stuff. [04:51] Why would that be an issue? [04:52] godling: I mean the "newer" format [04:52] I don't know what you mean Camarade_Tux. [04:52] I am not aware of the distinction. [04:52] godling: basically, if ooo crashes when opening your document, you'll probably have to start a new one and the newer xml-based format would be better to recover from [04:53] godling: godling yes, odt [04:53] .odt [04:53] All of my documents are .odt Camarade_Tux [04:54] Unless I need to import something as a .doc (unfortunately the rest of the world usually uses .doc). [04:54] s/as a/from a/ [04:54] I don't know what's going on. I am going to look for AbiWord or something so I can finish this paper. :/ [04:55] will abiword import .odt? [04:55] I haven't used it in years. [04:55] Camarade_Tux: thanks for your help [04:56] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-85.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [04:56] Camarade_Tux: hi :) [04:58] hi plop_ :) [04:59] godling: you can 'unzip' the .odt and have a look at the file, the contents are somewhere as plain text (well, maybe with markup actually) [04:59] Camarade_Tux: I've already looked at it. I suppose I could just copy the text bits and reformat it myself. [04:59] that is if I can install AbiWord without installing GNOME :P [05:00] do you guys reckon the next version of slackware will feature multilib out of the box? [05:00] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-77-217.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:00] abionnnn: probably too early to say :P [05:00] abionnnn: I reckon not. [05:01] mmmm :/ its quite irritating [05:01] ugh [05:01] you re ally need multilib for a lot of things [05:01] not really [05:01] not me [05:01] abionnn it would make sense to, i imagine yes [05:01] Xilinx WebPack [05:01] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.249.99) joined ##slackware. [05:01] that's not a lot of things abionnnn [05:01] Skype [05:01] Wine [05:01] want me to continue [05:02] If you'd like, it doesn't bother me. [05:02] yes, why don't you flood the channel with it? [05:02] I can't remember the name of that simple rtf editor [05:02] Action: abionnnn snickers as they've taken the bait [05:02] abionnnn: multilib does meet a niche, which will get smaller [05:02] yep, was ted [05:02] http://www.nllgg.nl/Ted/ [05:03] thank you Camarade_Tux [05:03] I assume that is for my benefit. [05:04] abionnnn, to be honest, i am unclear about what motivated the resistence to incorporating it into v13 [05:04] mingdao: it would be ideal if multilib was not required at all [05:05] mancha: the reasons were outlined here http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=wiki:talk:slackware:multilib [05:05] yes, i am unclear about that as it made no sense to me [05:05] godling: it writes .rtf files, it's simple, it's light and ... it does the work! [05:05] "we already have a 32 bit version" i not all that reasoned [05:05] mancha: it made little sense to me either... [05:05] *is not all that reasoned [05:06] I can see the resistance against it though, people should get with the times and recompile their stuff for 64-bit [05:06] unfortunately the likes of xilinx don't believe the WebPack customers need 64-bit OSes [05:06] Why? [05:06] we already have 110 volt adaptors but i like universal electric adaptors 110-240 :) [05:07] mancha: hahaha try designing one for a vacuum cleaner while making it light, and make it work across 50Hz and 60Hz [05:07] Camarade_Tux: php with xmlrpc installed, thanks for your help [05:07] i doubt vacuum cleaners care about cycles, do they have timing critical parts? [05:07] plop :) [05:08] mancha: sure! [05:08] depends on the motor, if its an induction motor, forget about it [05:08] what? [05:09] forget about it/forget about it working at all on a different frequency [05:09] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [05:11] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.40.82) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:13] abionnnn: Was that a joke? [05:13] if for whatever 'reason' the next isn't multilib, i'm sure alienbob will make multilib capabilities available. [05:14] also, i imagine a lot of the devs are working on 64 bit clean apps (skype, etc) [05:15] godling: what about it is funny? [05:15] Nothing [05:16] Politics (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: [05:17] There is a lot behind the multilib stuff for Slackware that isn't published and you won't read there. [05:17] mingdao so you're part of pat's inner circle? [05:17] are you part of the dev team? [05:18] Patrick Volkerding has an inner circle? [05:18] neither [05:18] mingdao, i fugured [05:19] You just made me picture Pat Volkerding with a cat, sitting at the head of a table surrounded by a nefarious-looking group. [05:19] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: [05:19] too much Bond! [05:19] i'll get you next gadget [05:19] But I do have friends who are, and if you have a little bit of intuitiveness, you can see what was happening with such as BlueWhite64 and Slamd64. [05:19] *time [05:19] aigon (n=rm@92.85.216.248) left irc: Client Quit [05:20] Slackware has been losing users to other 64-bit arches, as well as these point-and-click distros such as Ubuntu. [05:20] yeah, i have no intuitiveness [05:20] The times they are a changing. [05:20] intuition, mingdao [05:20] sid77 (n=sid77@moko.slackware.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:20] And if Pat wants to keep his user base, and keep it growing, he has to change, also. [05:20] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [05:20] eh... what's wrong with slackware64 ... other than lack of multilib :P [05:21] You can't understand intuitiveness? [05:21] get a dictionary [05:21] i don't see how this ties into not including ultilib [05:21] I believe it. [05:21] You can't understand subjectiveness? [05:21] get a dictionary [05:21] mingdao: Intuitiveness is the state of being intuitive, intuition is the "act". [05:21] be specific [05:21] you're stating truisms, products must adapt to market demand. [05:22] [Nobody] (n=Nope@user-54464f96.lns3-c12.dsl.pol.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [05:22] we're discussing the inclusion, or lack thereof, of multi-lib capability [05:22] godling: intuitiveness is the power to discern the true nature of a person or situation [05:22] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-85.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:22] mingdao: I have several dictionaries. [05:22] Ok, mingdao. [05:22] You're obviously correct. [05:23] I ask you because to me, Slackware is a lot more intuitive than any of the other silly point and click toys [05:23] and you're in a deep minority on that abionnn [05:23] /etc/* is far more intuitive than my MBP's xml configuration files... [05:24] sid77 (n=sid77@moko.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [05:24] The reason Slackware64 didn't have multilib included is because Pat wanted a pure lib 64-bit. [05:24] yes, everyone here will agree with you, but empirically, the numbers speak for themselves. distrowatch.com [05:25] The reason alienBOB made the multilib pkgs is because he feels it is needed. [05:25] that's not a reason [05:25] that's probably skewed by new users looking around for a compiz cube [05:25] the reason i turned right is because i wanted to turn right? [05:25] only to throw it away shortly afterwards when they can afford a mac [05:25] tautological explanations are void of meaning. [05:25] mingdao: You must be rather skilled at judging other's motivations. [05:25] mancha: read again where alienBOB talks about Slackware64 being multilib ready, vs. the way Fred or Arny did it. [05:25] alicephilippa (i=alice@78.105.168.173) joined ##slackware. [05:26] mingdao, no thanks. one read is enoguh for me [05:26] obviously not, but whatever [05:26] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [05:26] look you hinted at knowing a lot of background on this and now when asked specifically you give "because he wanted it that way' as a reason [05:26] this is hardly a revelation, in fact, its not a reason at all as i already mentioned [05:27] mancha: some reasons will remain hidden :P [05:27] heh [05:27] like the da vinci code [05:27] slackware is ultimately one man's OS, pat's, and he usually makes good decisions [05:27] multilib ... would be nice [05:27] but at the same time it would promote the use of 32-bit apps [05:27] it would be nice to force people's hands into writing 64-bit apps only [05:28] its time to move on... [05:28] is that the role of a distrib? [05:29] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [05:29] I think the role of a Linux distribution is to let people use their computers to do stuff. [05:31] all this other crap is just politics [05:31] pretty much :P [05:32] when the developer imposes his/her will on the user, he/she makes a presumption based solely on their own ego. [05:33] I prefer to stay away from the Theo de Raadt methodology of software development. :) [05:33] that's going to happen whenever a human being is making something :P [05:33] oh that guy, hahaha [05:46] anyone on here messed with ATI stream? [05:47] its it ATI's version of CUDA i think [05:52] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) joined ##slackware. [05:54] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [05:59] unix_telecom (i=c2ed8e06@gateway/web/freenode/x-pgdyswevkqcydixk) joined ##slackware. [05:59] hi guys [05:59] i want to rewrite some application layer 7 in my tcp packets on the fly [06:00] is there a way to do this? [06:00] ferdl (n=phiezer@pD9E31D6E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:00] dchmelik (n=d@66.243.235.148) left irc: "Leaving." 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[06:30] ijai: we can't answer that for you [06:30] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-257-1-82-237.w86-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [06:30] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [06:30] what is the best choice? [06:30] 'best' is subjective [06:31] it's like asking us what you should be wearing today [06:31] how a bout u? [06:31] what about me? [06:31] ijai: dual boot is not vm, vm is not dual boot. each one serves a different purpose. so please, make up your own mind [06:32] i'm quite new 2 linux .. some say dual-boot .. some say test it in environment within vm [06:32] ijai: it's because you're expecting others to make up your mind for you. that's silly [06:33] it has nothing to do with being new to linux. do you understand what the difference between those two solutions is? [06:33] could u xplain.. pls [06:33] ijai: could you learn how to type? it's 'you' and 'explain' [06:34] and 'please' [06:34] johndee (n=id@93-81-69-10.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [06:34] this isn't twitter [06:35] kowa (i=kowalczy@237-160.neasonline.no) joined ##slackware. [06:35] and if you were asking which solution to use, you should already know what they involve. do you even know what those are? [06:37] ijai (n=reaper@118.100.11.229) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:38] ijai: in other words, what ananke is trying to say..is learn what dual boot, and vm are better in what case... then check what suits you better [06:39] did he go before i post that didnt he..:( looks like the joins quits parts is not a good idea to ignore after all [06:40] kowa (i=kowalczy@237-160.neasonline.no) left irc: "ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net" [06:42] kowa (i=kowalczy@237-160.neasonline.no) joined ##slackware. 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[08:10] JsonicG (n=JsonicG@189.63.210.6) left irc: "Fui embora" [08:10] *hi [08:10] what did you say mf? scared him away like that [08:12] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:13] I'm still here :P [08:14] t0f (n=foo@4.238.254.2) left irc: [08:15] mesa_booger (n=mesa_boo@unaffiliated/mesa-booger/x-2567591) got lost in the net-split. [08:15] CountryPumpkin (n=foo@4.238.254.2) joined ##slackware. [08:17] so if I only install every 3rd package on my slack install discs without much regard as to what packages are left out, do you think that could be why i can't run my windows program :P [08:17] how can i keep track of a site changes [08:17] F5 [08:17] what is the terminology for it to search about it..thats what i mean [08:18] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:18] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[08:25] The-Croupier, maybe this will help http://www.ghacks.net/2009/09/07/monitor-website-changes/ [08:26] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.14.180) left irc: "Leaving" [08:27] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:27] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [08:27] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:27] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:30] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:32] mesaGL (n=mesaGL@unaffiliated/mesagl) left irc: [08:32] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.121.131) joined ##slackware. [08:32] mesaGL (n=mesaGL@unaffiliated/mesagl) joined ##slackware. [08:32] i kinda like lxterminal [08:33] i was a little surprised there was a slackbuild for it [08:33] _bruno__ (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:34] Jiraia_ (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:539) joined ##slackware. [08:34] wasn't* [08:34] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:539) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:34] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.40.82) joined ##slackware. [08:34] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [08:37] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [08:39] haldir: thanks very much...that did help a lot.. ;) to get an idea..;) [08:39] i know some more terminology to search for more now..thank you [08:39] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:41] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [08:43] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Quitting" [08:43] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:43] gnubien (n=e@58.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:45] BP{k}: it works thanks a lot :) [08:46] the most important component of a computer is the.. monitor :) [08:47] john_dee (n=id@93-81-69-10.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:47] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [08:47] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: "Leaving." [08:48] anyone knows if kernel 2.6.30.5 in testing has squashfs and aufs support enabled? [08:48] squashfs with lzma maybe? :) [08:50] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [08:50] Action: john_dee plays aphex twin at max volume to wake the channel up [08:50] Action: theblackbox Donkey Rhubarbs [08:51] anyone using rekonq? [08:52] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [08:52] Action: john_dee asks rubber johnny but he's busy sniffing some strange powder o_O [08:54] Action: sahko just got the Warp 20 box set in the mail [08:54] been siting in some fucking port for a month cause of strike [08:54] lol [08:55] irc'ing from a submarine? [08:55] the Greek governments believe its better to just sell our resources etc to foreigners. in the this case the Chinese. the workers apparrently dont agree [08:56] fosforo_1 (n=fosforo@187.15.67.81) joined ##slackware. [08:56] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@187.15.24.139) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:56] sahko: they need our workers. easier to convince %) [08:57] or, better, no need to do that at all [08:57] just arrange some circuses and those plebs will start working again [08:57] firedix (n=firedix@host195.201-252-177.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [08:57] who do they think they are, blocking progress like that [08:58] zErOaCid (i=gnu@unaffiliated/zErOaCid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:59] beradero (n=tessio@189.71.0.250) joined ##slackware. [09:00] beradero (n=tessio@189.71.0.250) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [09:00] br00tal (n=Jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) joined ##slackware. [09:01] jhw (n=jhw@p548F74EC.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [09:01] sahko, you from greece ? [09:01] Scuzz: i hate to admit it but yes [09:01] hahah [09:01] my first laugh of the morning [09:01] why is that? [09:02] i meant your reply , it wsa funny [09:02] oh:) [09:02] im also greek [09:02] oh!:) [09:02] but i dont think i could live in greece [09:02] then you must understand why i replied like that [09:02] yep [09:03] excellent place to visit though [09:03] yeah 1 month a year for vacation. sure. heaven [09:03] ha [09:03] beautiful greek [09:03] *greece [09:03] hey... I meant greece... -.- [09:04] thanx for the correction [09:04] I'm not gay... [09:04] ahah :P [09:04] i thougt you had a crush on sahko [09:04] nooper, don't worry... I haven't [09:04] part right,, i have seen some beautiful greeks, [09:04] yeah same [09:05] Action: theblackbox want's to go to Phraxos and find The Waiting Room ;) [09:05] I know this one dude, Adonis, who always tells me how he wants to come over to Germany to be a lumberjack.. [09:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@86.147.235.159) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:05] hahah [09:05] cutting down big trees [09:05] Action: The-Croupier leaves... to much monitoring to do..:( damn.. [09:05] Action: The-Croupier waves at everyone...have a good one guys [09:05] thanx The-Croupier [09:06] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:06] hope you have one also [09:06] ttfn The-Croupier [09:06] slackytude: ambitions are important :) [09:06] heh [09:06] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:08] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [09:08] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [09:09] hugohagogo (n=hugohago@189.23.230.5) joined ##slackware. [09:11] CountryPumpkin (n=foo@4.238.254.2) left irc: [09:13] meh rekonq doesnt work with 4.2.4 [09:17] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:17] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.74.88) joined ##slackware. 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[09:24] firedix (n=firedix@host195.201-252-177.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [09:26] OUch! http://thereifixedit.com/2009/08/19/epic-kludge-photo-no-worse-then-hot-metal/ [09:27] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:27] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:27] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.134) left irc: Connection timed out [09:29] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:35] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [09:35] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:36] eeeGuitarman (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [09:40] sahko: i see, thanks [09:43] plop_: glad you finalkly got it to work. [09:43] theblackbox: I am trying to work towards sainthood ;) [09:45] BP{k}: yep, i have discover a lot of thing, thanks to you.. Slackbuild was new for me. :) [09:45] plop_: hope it was educational. :) [09:48] nachox (n=imarambi@190.216.26.210) joined ##slackware. [09:49] morning everyone [09:49] or whatever part of the day it is in your timezone :) [09:49] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-48-71.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:49] BP{k}: and a teacher must be patient :) [09:52] hmm, he must be cutting down on that Guatemalan Insanity Coffee.... he was never that patient with me =P [09:52] agentc0re, I bloody love that site =D cheers! [09:52] finally somewhere to put all my bonehead hacks =S [09:52] lol [09:53] a, so a bad teacher [09:53] not so, a bad pupil ;) [09:53] how about slackware 13.0 i have found very critical entries about it on various blogs and forums .... especially the kde 4.0 is said to be screwed up ... [09:54] in any case, my php slackbuiild works ! [09:54] paul424, hmm, that doesn't sound right.... doubt it would make it into the RC if it was "screwed up"? [09:54] teddymills (n=teddy@208.92.235.227) left irc: Client Quit [09:55] what is the RC ... [09:55] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:56] release candidate .... stage before it is finalised to be 13.0 or whatever [09:56] or some such at least [09:56] the negative kde4 comments aren't related to slackware, but kde4 itself. usually people who dislike kde4 make it quite obvious that they dislike it [09:56] Nick change: moh2a -> mohaa [09:58] hmm maybe ... [09:58] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.74.88) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [09:58] not got round to it... meaning to for Amarok 2 but I've not got a slackware box at home any more.... dual boot my lappy with -current or 64bit at some point maybe [10:01] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.74.88) joined ##slackware. [10:01] so how do I check the md5 hash of burned cd's then ? [10:02] paul424: also there is a huge difference between KDE 4.0 and KDE 4.2.4. [10:03] Nick change: vbatts_ -> vbatts [10:04] paul424: cmp /dev/hda slackware64-current-install-dvd.iso [10:04] hmm no website does not mention of checking the burn cd as it have never been a problem but in fact it can be .... [10:05] mingdao: ok maybe that would work [10:05] paul424: substitute your device and image name [10:08] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) left ##slackware ("lähen ära koju"). [10:09] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:10] mingdao: hmmm if the command does not echo anything it means that cd is ok ? [10:12] yes paul424 [10:12] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-aqwjfsmzgucdgcse) joined ##slackware. [10:12] if it's bad you get something like cmp: /dev/hda: Input/output error [10:12] if it returns to a prompt with no output then the image and the medium are the same [10:13] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [10:14] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [10:16] ph7 (i=ph7@server1.bshellz.net) joined ##slackware. [10:16] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:17] paul424: if you prefer to see the md5sums output, alienBOB has a script: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/burnt_iso_md5_check.sh [10:18] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@d24-57-84-192.home.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:18] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-085.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:19] steiger_ (n=steiger@189.105.47.180) joined ##slackware. [10:19] ph7 (i=ph7@server1.bshellz.net) left ##slackware. 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[11:26] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:26] baad spook [11:26] aigon (n=rm@92.82.72.134) joined ##slackware. [11:26] am i awesome, y/n? [11:27] ^c [11:27] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-irvcqxopihwnggib) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:27] Nick change: adamk` -> adamk [11:27] it was probably not the best idea to enter a 1L custard skulling competition on a full stomach while drunk [11:27] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-fpfralahwhcyyvjk) joined ##slackware. [11:27] 30seconds after i won, i yacked the 1L back up [11:27] hehehe [11:28] I am having problems with a fiber NIC under slackware 13. It worked by default under 10. ethtool shows no link, however my switch says there is one. also, ethtool wont change autoneg/speed/duplex. anyone have any ideas? [11:29] sinkigobopo: mii-tool [11:30] spook_: tried that. SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth2' failed: Operation not supported [11:30] ifconfig thedevice [11:30] does it have RUNNING as one of the flags [11:31] spook_: yes. [11:31] its running. [11:31] credo (n=cherchez@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. [11:31] ifconfig
netmask up [11:32] spook_: I had to bring it up manually. no packets are being sent or recieved. [11:32] tcpdump -i [11:34] spook_: nothing. [11:34] osx5 (n=watcheso@unaffiliated/osx5) joined ##slackware. [11:34] hello [11:34] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) left irc: "leaving" [11:34] osx5 (n=watcheso@unaffiliated/osx5) left ##slackware. [11:38] sinkigobopo: got the tx/rx right way round? [11:38] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-48-71.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:40] spook_: ethtool has wierd outputs http://pastebin.com/d6edff4e0. im pretty sure tx/rx are right way. wasn't removed (by myself at leasst) since upgrade. I will double check that. [11:40] sinkigobopo: never assume. [11:40] find out [11:42] spook_: alright. thanks. time for a long walk across campus. [11:43] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:43] i walked 4.5 km home drunk uphill barefoot in the snow with a parking cone, both ways [11:43] dont whinge to me. [11:43] at leaste you go some custard out of the deal [11:44] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host204-63-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:44] spook_: Bill Cosby? [11:44] lol [11:44] credo: no, drunk. [11:44] Scuzz: i yaked it up lol [11:44] uhg [11:45] i dont even wanna imagine what custard would look like coming back out [11:45] Custard coming back out? It would probably look something like this. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/21/bum_bombing/ [11:46] another day of trying to configure an mta to use sasl to forward to my smtp server [11:46] im not even gonna check that link out [11:46] im still waking up [11:46] maybe after my coffee [11:46] Scuzz: It's safe for work and will get your day off to a good start. [11:46] well, i gotta go to a wife's dr's appt today, so it'll likely be later this afternoon before i try to do anything [11:47] Scuzz: it was 30seconds, it was still custard. [11:47] we took pictures [11:47] hahha [11:47] it'll be on facebook tomorrow [11:51] Ok guys, I got a big important question and could use some help here. [11:51] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:52] Alan_Hicks: yes, it was yellow [11:52] Hi, I'm having a problem with wicd. It worked but today my wireless network is not detected from slackware. [11:53] Here's my dilemna. I've got two machines that I'm turning into Slackware-13.0 servers. One is going to be a secondary "cold system" for backup in case the primary one fails. The customer doesn't want to spend all the money it would take for a hot system like linux-ha. Anyhow, I'm working on getting all the /etc directory together in just the right way to handle routing, IPs, network services, etc with the minimum ammount of effort on change-over [11:53] And I can't decide what I should have for lunch. [11:53] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:53] salmon [11:53] jnz_: iwlist scan [11:53] panzer (n=panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) joined ##slackware. [11:53] Alan_Hicks: Do you have a fazolis nearby? [11:53] jg71: Ick! [11:54] jg71: mmmmm.... salmon [11:54] straterra: Used to, not anymore. Not a bad suggestion. [11:54] Alan_Hicks, no scan results [11:54] Arbys is good too [11:54] jnz_: Does it even show your wireless NIC? [11:54] Alan_Hicks: you should have a kebab [11:55] spook_: I have a rule that I don't eat anything I don't know how to pronounce. [11:55] Alan_Hicks, yes [11:55] Alan_Hicks: what area of the country do you reside? [11:55] jnz_: What chipset are you using? Have you tried unloaded and reloading the kernel module? [11:56] straterra: Jaw-Juh. [11:56] ososid (n=void@a81-84-23-106.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:56] Alan_Hicks: KERBAB [11:56] oh [11:56] Alan_Hicks: spitroasted hog? ;) [11:56] Southern stuff..No idea then [11:56] Alan_Hicks, intel 3945, I try to manage with kernel module [11:56] BP{k}: Not a bad idea. BBQ would be good. [11:56] spook_: I meant long as in taking my time. Also, tx/rx are setup correctly. [11:57] jnz_: Hmm... that's not a bad chipset. Is it possible that something stupid has happened and your interface is down? [11:57] Like the wireless kill switch is active? [11:57] sinkigobopo: look in the end of the fiber, do you feel a burning in your eye? [11:57] Action: NaCl saw that in wicd before. [11:57] #wicd [11:57] NaCl: That's possible too, Sodium. [11:57] what laptop is it? [11:57] lol spook [11:58] eeepcs are entirely software rfkill [11:58] ViN86 (n=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FIVE-NINETY-NINE.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [11:58] Alan_Hicks: actually, I did that once. [11:58] It took me a few minutes to figure out what was going on. :P [11:58] I've done it several times. [11:59] spook_: thanks, but no thanks. [11:59] sinkigobopo: driver fucked. [11:59] spook_: i tried updating to the latest driver. same exact issue. [12:00] sinkigobopo: have you heard of something called regression? especially relating to kernel drivers [12:00] Alan_Hicks: I remember I had to cycle the switch a few times because it wouldn't find the device after software suspend. [12:00] sinkigobopo: What exactly is your problem? [12:00] Rather, had to cycle once, on multiple occasions. [12:01] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [12:01] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:02] Alan_Hicks, unloaded and loaded the module, not resolved yet :\\\ [12:02] Alan_Hicks: fiber nic, worked under slackware 10, not 13. switch sees a link. slackware doesnt. [12:02] jnz_: What's your NIC named? eth1? wlan0? [12:02] wlan0 [12:02] sinkigobopo: Slackware-10.x running a 2.4 kernel? [12:02] sinkigobopo: have you heard of something called regression? especially relating to kernel drivers [12:02] jnz_: ifconfig wlan0 up; iwconfig wlan0 [12:03] spook_: Too early to be thinking about a kernel regression, particularly in a driver that old. [12:03] phzin (n=Warning@189.57.19.89) left ##slackware. [12:03] Alan_Hicks: yes. was 2.4 [12:04] Alan_Hicks: i would not be surprised [12:04] Alan_Hicks, http://nopaste.com/p/alaA06eOQ [12:04] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:04] sinkigobopo: Ok. So you're not getting a link light on the NIC or what? [12:05] Alan_Hicks: No link on nic. ethtool output http://pastebin.com/d6edff4e0 however the switch sees a link and transmitting data. not recieving. [12:05] jnz_: Ok. Try iwlist scan again [12:05] sinkigobopo: You can't always depend on ethtool. [12:06] sinkigobopo: gimme ifconfig eth2 [12:06] no results [12:06] how can one rebuild a slackware distribution, please ? is it possible ? does some 'master script' exist, which would go through the source/* directory, execute SlackBuilds as needed, and rebuild/recompile the whole system ? [12:06] should I try in #wicd? [12:06] jnz_: I hate to say this, but have you tried rebooting? [12:06] jnz_: Wouldn't hurt. [12:06] yes I have [12:07] jnz_: don't [12:07] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.40.82) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:07] rrh: No. [12:07] rrh: You can do it, but it's a very manual task. There's nothing like BSD's # cd /usr/src; make; make install [12:08] Alan_Hicks: http://pastebin.com/d7443b236 [12:08] jnz_: You certain there's not some sort of hardware on/off switch on your laptop? [12:08] jnz_: what laptop is it? [12:08] sinkigobopo: TX packets:0 errors:0 [12:08] yes I'm sure. Acer Aspire 5710 :\\\\\ [12:09] sinkigobopo: That tells me that Slackware hasn't even tried to send any data, so how is the switch receiving any? [12:09] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [12:09] jnz_: check the bios. [12:09] spook_, it works on other system (I have a dual boot) [12:09] jnz_: check the bios. [12:09] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [12:10] I do [12:10] Alan_Hicks: the switch isn't recieving any. it is transmitting, which i don't see anything on the box being recieved. [12:10] jnz_: What's the other system? Some other Linux distro? [12:10] sinkigobopo: Ah! I misunderstood. [12:10] Alan_Hicks, windows 7 :\\\ [12:10] Emeau-cat_ (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [12:11] sinkigobopo: test the patch leads [12:11] sinkigobopo: I don't see any sort of IP address set on eth2. How is it supposed to tx/rx if the interface hasn't been configured? (Granted, you can tx/rx with just MAC, but no routing, I know.) [12:11] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:11] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@h80ad271d.async.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [12:11] sinkigobopo: Yeah. Set an IP address and just try to transmit some data and see what happens. If/when that fails, check your terminator. fiber is fical sometimes. [12:12] Alan_Hicks: well, it is meant just to recieve, it will be put in promisc mode. snort listening interface [12:12] spook_, what should I have to check in bios? [12:12] jnz_: that the wireless isnt disabled by default [12:12] sinkigobopo: Ah. Just the same, set it up with an address and see what happens. [12:12] bgmerrell (n=bgmerrel@nat/novell/x-hswrncgfyhdegoxb) joined ##slackware. [12:12] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host204-63-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "brb" [12:13] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [12:13] sinkigobopo: Are you using this as a bridge or something? [12:13] Alan_Hicks: that's unfortunate. anyway, thank you for the info. [12:13] rrh: You're welcome. [12:14] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:14] Alan_Hicks: no, IDS capture interface. switch is mirroring multiple ports to that single port and the slackware box analyzes everything. [12:14] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [12:15] Alan_Hicks: It was working before I upgraded. Nothing has changed physically. I will double check patch cable anyway. Sorry, but I have to attend a meeting right now. I will try later and get back to you. [12:15] sinkigobopo: No problem. I gotta eat lunch now anyhow. [12:16] just installed 13 on a thinkpad t61p, but it's not suspending. I'm a slackware newb, and i'm just wondering if there is an update or patch that fixes this. [12:16] Alan_Hicks and spook_ thanks for your help. [12:17] sinkigobopo: you're not welcome [12:17] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host204-63-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:19] not suspending when i close the lid, i mean. the screen turns off, but the machine is still running. [12:20] bgmerrell: using kde? [12:20] Speaking of suspending... [12:20] spook_: no, using fluxbox, i did not install the kde packages [12:21] When I suspend/hibernate in KDE, it lags about 5-10 seconds on a blank/corrupted screen with a cursor on it, and then eventually responds to inputs. [12:21] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [12:21] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [12:21] Z41d (n=Z41d@41.248.217.212) joined ##slackware. [12:22] Sometimes it comes back instantaneously, and it always does when I just pm- on the terminal [12:22] Z41d (n=Z41d@41.248.217.212) left ##slackware ("Quitte"). [12:22] esoteric (n=esoteric@c-67-186-216-208.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:23] suspending and hybernating isnt the same. the later one does take time [12:23] the former one shouldnt take that much [12:23] bgmerrell, in linux usualy the applications take the responsability in what to do with use events, and it treats lid closing as a user event [12:23] user events* [12:23] sahko: sorry, I meant once the system restores itself, which does take the appropriate amount of time. [12:23] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95.27.65.74) joined ##slackware. [12:23] guax: so some kde daemon handles closing the lid i take it? [12:24] bgmerrell: yeah. [12:24] As far as I can tell. [12:24] firedix (n=firedix@host195.201-252-177.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [12:24] bgmerrell, and it works very well on kde =P. [12:25] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-130-188.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] guax: indeed, except for that annoying little problem that seems to be plaguing me. :/ [12:27] Cardeal (n=cardeal@unaffiliated/ldap) joined ##slackware. [12:28] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [12:28] NaCl, slackware is friendly. It just choose very carefull its friends [12:28] =P [12:28] Ow. :P [12:29] carefully its the right word, tough [12:29] NaCl, here it worked good. intel hardware. just video completely screwed with the new X [12:30] My NVIDIA chipset works fine. [12:30] im poor =( [12:30] :/ [12:30] It isn't too great, but it makes KDE look slick. [12:31] Action: guax translating slick, wait [12:31] =P [12:31] FWIW, my suspend/hibernate issues don't lock the machine, I can switch to another VT> [12:31] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [12:31] abionnnn (i=1000@202-89-188-44.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [12:31] hummm "make slick or smooth" [12:32] guax: "Appearing expensive or sophisticated." [12:32] NaCl, i was pretty surprised with 13.0 when for the 1st time i saw my computer properly sleeping =P [12:32] hibernating dont work >/ [12:33] It seemed to like my hardware in 12.2. [12:33] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:33] im using something between 12.2 and current [12:33] because of my video and kde 3 [12:35] fun. [12:36] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [12:37] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [12:37] hmm [12:38] I think `cal` might have a bug [12:38] hi [12:38] im having some problems to initiate xorg, [12:38] hiptobecubic: how so? [12:39] Nick change: panzer -> Panzer [12:39] when i try config i gives me error, cant load DRM and i915 modules [12:40] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:40] all, I wish to input chinese in konsole using scim. how to do that? thx [12:40] BP{k}, well i'm checking on it. but there is definite disagreement between python, cal, wikipedia, and another wikipedia page about the days of the week in 1699 [12:41] heh [12:41] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Permanent_calendar.png http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_year_starting_on_Sunday [12:41] hiptobecubic, calendar suffer a lot of... "adaptations" throught time [12:41] the common year starting on sunday is from the 1699 wiki page [12:42] oh no wait. [12:42] i misread i think [12:42] glad you discovered this. :) imagine we all get thrown into a temporal loop into the past! [12:42] BP{k}, right so wiki, wiki, and python all agree [12:42] it's ok. i can still input chinese using scim in xfce terminal, anyway :) [12:42] call seems to be using the julian calendar for that year [12:42] cal* [12:42] people in the past didnt care about week days, so some years where lost =P [12:43] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [12:43] guax, in 1752, september skipped from the 3rd to the 14th [12:44] boxxoq (n=ab_cd@222.65.123.236) left ##slackware. [12:44] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [12:44] v4nelle (n=van@adsl77-146.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:44] hiptobecubic, chuck norris said that week never existed [12:44] if you're chuck norris, every day is saturday [12:44] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-130-188.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:45] plop_ (i=51fcb5a2@gateway/web/freenode/x-cuguiynagvjlwebd) left irc: "Page closed" [12:45] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [12:46] hiptobecubic, it quite mess with predictions about end of the world in 2014 if we are not realy 2009 years far from the birth of that boy [12:46] BP{k}, yes there are definitely entire ranges of years in the middle of the last millennium which are wrong.... 1682 [12:46] really [12:47] guax, check it out. cal 1 1682 vs wikipedia for 1682 [12:47] i red an article once that talk much about that problems [12:47] including the 29 february kludge =P [12:48] 29 feb except on years for which year % 100 is false.... except when year % 400 is also false [12:52] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [12:54] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-71.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [12:55] twanny796 (n=twanny@85.232.203.29) joined ##slackware. [12:55] anyone knows of a good *free* book on ISDN? [12:56] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:57] twanny796, you have to pick one. good or free. [12:57] is isdn still actively used? 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[13:06] (as it is i can't use the ati prop drivers for my card due to some issues that im having centred somewhere around hald and mesa) [13:06] try it [13:06] well, half the time I can't even get xorg to launch due to whatever has broken on my system [13:06] dartmouth, Your card is either supported by the mesa drivers in Slackware 13.0 or the proprietary drivers... What is the ultimate issue you are having? [13:06] i get no error either due to the nature of the lockup [13:06] i mean, try downgrading mesa [13:07] adamk_: the ultimate issue is I start xorg, kdm, et al, and i get a hard lock [13:07] since the upgrade from an older -current to 13.0 [13:07] dartmouth, And you are using the open source drivers? What video card? [13:08] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:08] adamk_: with the radeon driver, sometimes I can get a xorg, but no compiz etc, now i just get a hardlock [13:08] with fglrx i just get the hardlock [13:08] Again, what video card? :-) [13:08] radeon hd 2400 pro [13:08] aigon (n=rm@92.82.72.134) left irc: Client Quit [13:08] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:08] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:08] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [13:08] Alright, well you can certainly downgrade Mesa, but it won't make any difference. Mesa in Slackware 13 doesn't support your GPU so it's not even coming into play. [13:09] good evening [13:09] so what do i do? everything was working fine before the upgrade [13:09] Heck, even the DRM in Slackware 13 doesn't support your GPU, so I am very surprised you'd be getting a hard lock with the open source drivers. [13:09] there's also a radeonhd driver (aside from radeon/ati) [13:09] dartmouth, You've confirmed that the machine is inaccessible from another box via ssh when this lockup happens? [13:09] mancha: i thought radeonhd was just an alias identifier for radeon [13:09] No, it's a separate driver for r500 and higher cards. [13:10] no, two different drivers [13:10] adamk_: i haven't because i have no other box on the netwrok to do this [13:10] adamk_: i have the r6 [13:10] Feature-wise, it is almost the exact same as radeon. [13:10] r610 exactly [13:10] Aside from supporting HDMI audio. [13:10] Alright, so how are you starting/testing X? [13:10] adamk_: startx, startxfce, kdm [13:11] And, each time now, the screen goes blank and nothing further happens? [13:11] adamk_: thats correct [13:11] i have verified that hald and dbus are running, as well [13:11] tooly (n=tooly@e178169007.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:12] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95.27.65.74) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:12] It's really hard to debug without access to /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but trying the radeonhd driver is definitely a viable first step. [13:12] Heck, trying vesa would be an option too. [13:12] adamk_: yeah im not too happy about not getting an error in the log as well [13:12] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:12] thats why im certain it's a hardlock instead of just an input device detection issue with hal [13:13] adamk_: ok, give me a few minutes and i'll test all three of those out real quick and post the results here as with no gui i kind of suck for troubleshooting without a second box [13:14] credo (n=cherchez@80.233.147.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:14] how hard a lock? can you switch to a virt term during this problem? [13:14] (or remote into the box?) [13:15] He said he has other box to access from. [13:16] that's good, it could test how bad the lock is [13:17] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [13:18] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:19] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:25] ViN86 (n=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FIVE-NINETY-NINE.MIT.EDU) left irc: "Leaving" [13:26] MrJackson (n=MrJackso@173-86-37-23.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:26] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-79-99.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:27] mancha: no i have no interaction available [13:27] twanny796 (n=twanny@85.232.203.29) left irc: "changing servers" [13:27] dont know about remote access, nothing to test that out with [13:28] Does the monitor go to sleep? [13:28] adamk_: no it just sits there, black and blank. [13:28] but lemme test out radeonhd real quick [13:31] jhw (n=jhw@p548F74EC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:40] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [13:40] slack uses dillon's and the default loglevel is 8 [13:40] However I should pick pizzas... [13:41] street is around 100m long... So, it's gonna be hard [13:42] dv, though i see what you mean, slack does default tologlev 10 [13:42] jpcrowley (n=jpcrowle@189.23.121.71) joined ##slackware. [13:42] *to loglev [13:42] does that include cron messages heh, cause my crontab is configured to send output to /dev/null [13:42] unless thats a diff type of logging [13:43] dv, maybe we should start at the beginning. what would you like to have happen [13:43] metrofox: you talked to a guy named "Wiren" last week about windows (he came here to troll), remember? [13:43] mmm... [13:43] actually don't remember his nick but yes I did... [13:44] I talked to him... What happened? What did he do? [13:44] each time a cronjob is run i want it logged...i mean as it stands my /var/log/cron is empty and ive had daily jobs running for weeks now [13:44] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [13:45] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.122.53) joined ##slackware. [13:45] metrofox: do you think he's an asshole? (you can say it ;) ) [13:46] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.61.227) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:46] Camarade_Tux, who trolls won't be respected... Yes I think :P [13:46] *Yes I do [13:47] \leave [13:47] there's no reason for trolling or for coming here and talking about linux or windows... It's like talking about religion, we'll never find a meeting point, we'll just spend time... [13:47] jpcrowley (n=jpcrowle@189.23.121.71) left irc: "Leaving" [13:48] I mean linux vs. Windows; Linux vs. whatever you want [13:48] ugh, theres no "see also" section in the man pages dillon wrote :| [13:48] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.61.111) joined ##slackware. [13:48] tastes great... Less filling! [13:48] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-76-179-231-3.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:48] mancha: ? [13:49] dv slack sets a loglev of 10, which is not a documented syslog level [13:49] try changing that to 8? [13:50] haha wow everytime i saw the crond process i thought that was -110 not -l10 [13:50] thanks mancha, thatll probably do it [13:53] sendmail needs to be running to be able to send email locally, user -> user right ? [13:54] crazy_russian (n=wertik@95-27-79-99.broadband.corbina.ru) left ##slackware ("#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)"). [13:54] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65215a1.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:56] mikl0 (n=mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:58] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [13:58] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: Excess Flood [13:59] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [14:00] ferdl (n=phiezer@pD9E31D6E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "we are upgrading /dev/null" [14:01] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-76-179-231-3.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:01] bah [14:01] well im getting Xorg.0.log logged to now [14:01] with all three options [14:01] yet am still getting the same lockup [14:02] and there are no errors at the end of the log [14:02] it stops while or after loading the "Damage" extension [14:02] How are you getting the log file? [14:03] It's locking up with the vesa driver, too? [14:03] yeah [14:03] i wonder if this has to do with hald still though [14:03] This is almost certainly not a driver issue, but something else on your system, then. [14:03] it could just be that it's misdetecting my keyboard & mouse [14:04] and something related to video [14:04] You aren't just running 'X' or 'Xorg' to test, are you? [14:04] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:04] Because that will only produce a black screen. [14:04] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:05] adamk_: no im running kdm [14:05] generally [14:05] dv, if still around, i think you want a lower loglev (say 0 for verbose). it's intuitively backwards [14:05] macavity had me remove the mesa package the other day troubleshooting this and then i lost touch with him [14:05] Yeah, I can assure you that has nothing to do with this problem. [14:06] Mesa is so far removed from this. [14:06] adamk_: im seriously considering just reinstalling slackware but i've put so much work into that configuration [14:06] Can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? [14:06] adamk_: froma console? i have no idea how [14:06] debugging tip, identify what changed or what eas changed between last working config and non-working [14:07] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:07] pupiteee1 (n=p@93.86.247.123) joined ##slackware. [14:07] mancha: that would be alot easier but i did a batch upgrade from an old -current to 13.0 with slackpkg [14:07] dartmouth, http://pastebin.ca/ is navigatable by links, and lets you specify a file to upload. [14:07] that still restricts the possibilities, ie which packages were upgraded during that u/g [14:07] actually no, i did it with a mirror & rsync [14:08] mancha: i have no idea [14:08] There's also a way to do it with curl, but I don't remember the exact command. [14:08] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:09] jhw (n=jhw@p548F74EC.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:09] _maxiwll_AR (n=_maxiwll@201.90.140.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:09] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [14:09] _maxiwll_AR (n=_maxiwll@201-75-46-15-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:10] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-fpfralahwhcyyvjk) left irc: [14:11] adamk_: http://pastebin.ca/1622479 [14:12] j0z (n=JESUS@201.22.31.123) joined ##slackware. [14:12] adamk_: http://pastebin.ca/1622481 <-- xorg.0.log [14:12] OK, well it shouldn't be using HAL for input device detection.. [14:13] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:539) joined ##slackware. [14:13] Was that log file from after you hit reset? [14:13] adamk_: yeah thats only one X session [14:13] Yeah, a hard reboot or reset could explain why /var/log/Xorg.0.log is truncated. [14:14] no i wiped the file so i could navigate through the junk [14:14] im bad with my log files i haven't come up with a system to rotate them efficiently yet [14:14] It's seeing a monitor on VGA_1, which is good, and it says it's not using HAL. [14:14] i just empty the file when im troubleshooting so i dont fix stuff that i dont need to yet [14:15] yeah i dont see what the problem is either [14:16] I really am at a loss. [14:16] well damn you for not knowing the solution to all problems! [14:17] I mean. uhm. heh. "Its cool, man." [14:17] really though this sucks, its over my head [14:17] It's happening with radeon, radeonhd, and vesa, so it's not a driver problem. [14:17] i'm a massive nerd, i stop kernel programming to go to a quiz night, get home, dive right back into it [14:17] hal is disabled and it's using the input devices you define, so there doesn't appear to be an input problem going on. [14:19] pupiteee (n=p@77.46.222.84) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:22] mancha: thanks [14:22] dv, cool. [14:23] adamk_: i did recently rebuild my kernel around the same time, i have a little process i go through everytime I upgrade that requires it for the prop drivers [14:23] would my .config file help? [14:24] I doubt it. The vesa driver doesn't touch anything in the kernel, frankly. [14:24] also, the upgrade bumped my kernel up from 2.6.29.2 to 2.6.29.6 [14:24] EVen the radeon driver doesn't use the DRM in 2.6.29.* [14:24] You did completely remove fglrx, right? [14:24] no, i dont think i did [14:25] lemme verify that though [14:25] brb [14:25] Yeah, you definitely did not. [14:25] # [14:25] (II) Module fglrxdrm: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc." [14:25] I'm doubtful that's the source of the problem, but it's not a good idea to have it on your system if you aren't using it, and it should be an easy thing to fix/check. [14:25] bbl [14:25] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [14:26] hrm i dont see it in menuconfig [14:27] See what in menuconfig? [14:27] fglrx is proprietary, not anywhere in the kernel. [14:29] gabriel (n=gabriel@200.1.19.140) joined ##slackware. [14:29] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:30] you would learn so much just from poking around in the kernel source [14:31] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.56.12.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:31] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [14:31] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [14:37] adamk: oh, i see what you mean [14:37] well,i just removed the radeon hd card support from the kernel [14:37] left vesa up though [14:37] rebuilding currently [14:37] and then i'll reinstall the prop driver and see what happens [14:39] dartmouth: are you back here again with the SAME driver problem? [14:39] spook_: the problem was never identified [14:40] i've had macavity look at it since then and we couldn't figure it out then either [14:40] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [14:40] maybe you should use a different distro and leave us alone once and for all :) [14:40] I'd be much happier with my dick in your mouth. [14:41] :o [14:41] Axius (n=fd@92.85.215.79) joined ##slackware. [14:41] :P [14:41] .... [14:42] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:42] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:42] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [14:44] wow that kernel rebuild was way too fast [14:44] way too fast [14:44] that wasn't even 5 minutes [14:44] dv, as follow-up, your question highlights why poor documentation is fubar. dillon failed at that [14:45] dartmouth: Multi-core processor? [14:45] dartmouth: I do make -j9 on mine.. kernels compile oh so fast :) [14:46] _bruno__ (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:46] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:46] Dominian: no, amd, single core, like 2.0 ghz [14:47] its a skimmed down kernel but it shouldn't be that skimmed down [14:47] were there a whole bunch of .o's already there? [14:48] no idea, I didn't check; i will never claim to be an expert at building new kernels; but im giving it a shot brb [14:48] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-76-179-231-3.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:48] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [14:51] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:51] bgmerrell (n=bgmerrel@nat/novell/x-hswrncgfyhdegoxb) left ##slackware. [14:52] when you start editing kernel code, you quickly learn the ins and outs of kernel compiling [14:53] spook_: I still haven't gotten any source yet ;P [14:53] Took ALL that time to set it up.. and zilch.. I'm like at the Prom with no date [14:53] hehe [14:53] Dominian: you will, give it a week or two [14:53] aye I know [14:53] I'm just giving you a hard time [14:53] mancha: make is smart, it knows when it has to recompile the object files [14:54] Dominian: its okay, i'm still a little drunk [14:54] haha I heard [14:54] I WON! *BLLLLLLELLEEEEECCCH* [14:54] at least i didnt get it on my clothes or anyone else [14:54] especially not the girl i'm trying to get with [14:54] that's always a good thing [14:55] who has the same name as me :P [14:55] o_O [14:55] I'm Ashley, shes Ashleigh [14:55] ashley and you're a guy ? [14:56] ..... [14:56] its more likely than you think. [14:56] acidchild for a start :) [14:56] Action: spook_ highfives acidchild [14:56] Nick change: spook_ -> spook [14:57] gabriel (n=gabriel@200.1.19.140) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:57] spook, yes, which is why i offered it as a possible reason for dart's "fast" compile [14:57] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@187.15.4.32) joined ##slackware. [14:58] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-76-179-231-3.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:58] anyone ever tried to install two firefox versions ? i have firefox 2.0.0.20 in /usr/lib and firefox 3.5 in my home folder... when i run firefox-bin from the 3.5 version, firefox 2.0.0.20 gets launched... (even though i renamed the exec in /usr/bin to firefox-2) [14:59] hrm, ok [14:59] mancha: i agree completely with you. [14:59] pireau: not going to go well. [14:59] spook: indeed... [14:59] google wave fails miserably with firefox 2.n [14:59] its not too great in 3.5 [15:00] did you compile 3.5 from source? [15:00] getting a build error with the ati prop driver generation; i remember having to use a patch for the 2.6.29.2 kernel for compatability; i wonder if that's not been fixed :/ I also wonder if the patch is not applicable to the newer kernel. hmmmm [15:00] mancha: nein, i downloaded the binary from mozilla. [15:00] pieaeu, it surely ha its dir structure hard coded then [15:00] even so this wouldn't fix my issue whatever, it is; this is something else. [15:01] mancha: that kinda sucks [15:01] dartmouth, you're way too scattered, i have no clue any longer what you're doing [15:01] ciao deco [15:01] metrofox: ciao [15:01] ah ! mancha [15:01] youre messing with prop vs foss, old kernel vs new, mesa vs older mesa, etc [15:01] wtf are you doing? [15:01] /usr/lib/firefox links to /usr/lib/firefox-2.0.0.20 ... [15:01] mancha: im just trying to identify what the problem is and fix it so i can use my X11 [15:02] im not getting an error so i have to check everything [15:02] well you're massively failing at debugging [15:02] deco, come va? [15:02] to debug, you change one thing at a time, to see if that's the issue. you don't change it all [15:03] metrofox: bene , grazie :) [15:03] you probably missed that i've been rebooting and coming in and out constantly between each thing I change :P [15:03] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:03] yes, i guess i missedit. [15:03] metrofox: how do you pronouce "z" like an s ? [15:03] pronounce* [15:03] deco, no, z like a z :) [15:03] metrofox: ah ok thanks :) [15:03] listen, at this stage, it seems you've done so much tweaking that it might make sense to install a working version [15:03] in Italian you mean...? [15:03] metrofox: yeah [15:04] metrofox: so it's the same sound as in english ? [15:04] deco, yes it is [15:04] and in the future, don't tweak that which you don't understand unless you're willing to spend many hours fixing things you break [15:04] metrofox: oh ok thanks [15:05] deco, you're welcome ;) [15:06] seen that I've nothing to do right now, ask me something else :P [15:06] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:07] metrofox: :P [15:08] fosforo_1 (n=fosforo@187.15.67.81) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:08] plop (i=58b17409@gateway/web/freenode/x-enaijadvbhjwexis) left irc: "Page closed" [15:09] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.21.188) joined ##slackware. [15:15] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-51-105.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:15] stig_ (n=stig@173.80-202-229.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [15:15] gyah! [15:16] thats it im updating to -current, moving from an old -current to a new release was a bad idea [15:17] ? [15:17] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-79-99.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:17] Dominian: xorg issues [15:17] hellooo [15:17] tozo (n=chatzill@200.138.126.106) joined ##slackware. [15:17] dartmouth: ahh [15:18] Dominian: had a few people looking at this and no one can figure out what's causing it [15:18] eggs [15:18] Action: Dominian nods [15:18] I hate xorg issues [15:18] hehe [15:18] Dominian: its weird because the xorg.0.log file shows it *should* be working fine [15:18] and it was working fine before the upgrade [15:18] What is the issue precisely? [15:18] I must've missed it [15:18] stig (n=stig@173.80-202-229.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:19] Dominian: hard lock at xorg launch [15:19] hrm [15:19] blank, black screen [15:19] dartmouth: What video adapter? [15:19] keyboard leds die [15:19] no vt [15:19] it's a radeon hd pro 2400 (r610) [15:19] Were you using custom drivers or anything? [15:20] i was using the ati prop drivers before this [15:20] its possible that xorg is trying to prove kernel modules that aren't fit for the kernel in question.. killing xorg [15:20] with an older kernel [15:20] hi Dominian [15:20] tozo (n=chatzill@200.138.126.106) left irc: Client Quit [15:20] Dominian: i just removed all kernel modules besides vesa to make sure that wasn't happening [15:20] metrofox: hello [15:20] same behaviour with radeon, radeonhd, and vesa [15:20] interesting.. [15:21] dartmouth: I'm assuming you did a reinstall of all xorg packages including hal and udev? [15:21] ati prop drivers overwrite things that are in x-server and mesa [15:21] hald & dbus appear to be fine as well [15:21] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [15:21] if you upgrade x-server and mesa you overwrite the ati prop files, partially [15:21] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-149-128.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [15:21] Dominian: i didn't since the upgrade from an old -current to a 13.0 [15:21] hrm [15:21] have tried reinstalling the ati prop drivers (which no longer compile due to build error) [15:21] dartmouth: Well, I'd suggest reinstalling x/ [15:22] if you haven't already [15:22] hrm, probably not the worst idea. slackpkg? [15:22] then the prop driver is not kosher with the new x stuff [15:22] mancha: its not the prop driver [15:22] same behaviour with radeon, radeonhd, and vesa [15:22] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426794.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:22] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [15:22] stop getting confused [15:23] if you have the prop drivers installed at all, then it'll mess up the foss stuff [15:23] dartmouth: slackpkg reinstall x iirc [15:23] or x/ [15:23] I don't remember the syntax for a package set [15:23] a) remove the prop drivers (all of it); b) re-install X; c) try to rebuild the prop stuff on the new config [15:24] ah [15:24] i see what you're saying [15:24] ok bbiab with hopefully progress [15:24] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-76-179-231-3.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [15:24] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@187.15.4.32) left irc: Connection timed out [15:24] if ati won't build on the new setup go to ati/amd and see if they have a newer driver for your newer X [15:24] :) [15:25] I'd test it without the ati prop drivers personally.. make sure it works that way first [15:25] i'd go further and not user prop drivers at all :) [15:25] hehe [15:25] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@187.15.37.51) joined ##slackware. [15:25] yeah I use all nvidia with my linux install if I can [15:25] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.74.88) joined ##slackware. [15:25] mancha, He said he was going to remove the proprietary driver and try again... Did he do that? [15:26] he already removed the prop driver [15:26] adamk, i have no idea, he was doing so much, kernel compiles, xorg.conf tweaking, etc [15:26] i lost track [15:27] deco iooo the mi-french mi-english lol [15:27] fredoslack: lol [15:27] =) [15:28] deco, t'es canadien ou quoi$ [15:28] -$ [15:28] Yeah, I was getting confused, too. [15:28] And I'm quite certain he was, as well. [15:28] I was't confused. [15:28] fredoslack: no americain... [15:28] thats the problem with the shotgun approach to debugging [15:28] deco, ok =) [15:28] deco, i am enchanté [15:28] fredoslack: hehe [15:29] stickyboy (n=hugo@196.202.207.74) joined ##slackware. [15:33] Gentoo: “We're Not Dead” [15:33] they reborn.. mmm.. [15:33] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:35] screw it, removed postfix...killed fetchmail [15:35] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@d24-57-84-192.home.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:35] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:35] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [15:35] metrofox, happy birday [15:35] bhirday * [15:35] 10 years [15:36] yeah... [15:36] gentoo's now 10 years old... [15:38] who like Police [15:38] the chanteurs [15:39] police the band ? [15:39] hmmm not really :P [15:40] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.56.12.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:43] Is grub on the installation media in 13.0? [15:43] deco, yes, ceux qui chantent [15:43] deco, "do do do" [15:43] "da da da" =) [15:44] :P [15:44] stickyboy, it's on extra/ this won't be installed by default [15:44] fredoslack, not really me too =) [15:45] lol [15:45] I know some song of their like roxane [15:45] *them [15:46] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:46] deco, yes, ceux qui chantent [15:46] yes, those one who sing! [15:46] *ones [15:46] am I right? [15:47] how does one set up a pop3 server directly with alpine? [15:51] Nick change: nyRednek_ -> nyRednek [15:53] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:55] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [15:56] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) joined ##slackware. [15:57] ViN86 (n=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-THREE-FORTY-SEVEN.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [16:00] actually found it easier to make pine play nice with each account, and configuring gmail to allow send from that account as several addresses than playing with fetchmail/postfix [16:02] where is the acutally hostname that bash prints? [16:03] bash does that? [16:04] madbear: you mean the hostname shown in your login shell? [16:04] well the prompt you know [16:04] madbear: /etc/HOSTNAME [16:04] ^^^ yeah [16:04] nyRednek: i changed that [16:05] still darkstar hehe [16:05] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:05] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:05] how do i reload without rebooting? [16:05] I doubt bash reads that every time you start up. It probably reads the $HOSTNAME variable. [16:05] Or, rather, every time you start up a bash shell. [16:05] hostname new_name_here [16:05] And that's only set at boot, I think. [16:06] Yeah, that should do it. [16:07] hehe :S stupid me [16:07] thanks fire|bird [16:07] you're welcome [16:07] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: [16:08] this is weird , hostname darkstar and i can open konsole [16:08] i change it and i cant start it [16:08] change back , it starts [16:09] maybe try logging out and back in [16:09] yeah reloading x [16:09] fire|bird is back :P [16:09] stickyboy (n=hugo@196.202.207.74) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:09] hi metrofox [16:09] learning something new every day :) [16:10] that also worked [16:10] guru fire|bird !! [16:10] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:10] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:10] metrofox: you restart your network stack [16:10] madbear, fire|bird is a n00b :D [16:10] madbear: even [16:11] metrofox: fire|bird? a n00b? oh hell *runs for the hills* [16:11] nyRednek, hat? [16:11] lol eh [16:11] *what [16:11] metrofox: A n00b? Where'd you get that from? :P I've been using linux for 9.5-10 years. :P [16:11] fire|bird, it was ironic friend :P [16:11] wow , and this is all ou have learned ? [16:11] you* [16:11] j/k [16:12] T_T [16:12] Action: fire|bird sends the *mad* bear after Scuzz [16:12] hahaha [16:12] LOL [16:12] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-235-148.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Scuzz: i've been using slackware for over a dozen years, yet still have newbie q's occasionally [16:12] yeah i hear ya [16:12] just look at me nyRednek [16:12] I've(not) been seriously using linux for 2 years... [16:12] 2 years and it seems now im jsut starting to pickup on things [16:13] my first experience was with RH 3 [16:13] long time ago [16:13] still got the questions [16:13] :P [16:13] madbear: my first was slackware 3.5 [16:13] nyRednek: :P [16:13] madbear: it came with a linux book i bought [16:13] same for RH [16:13] but i was only 11 at that time [16:14] nyRednek, and you fallen in love... :P [16:14] when ppl say its hard to install i atleast can say.. it was harder in the 90's [16:14] metrofox: just don't tell my wife [16:14] nyRednek, I won't, don't worry :P [16:14] and in the 90s you weren't guaranteed that your HW would be supported [16:14] mancha: exactly [16:14] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-79-99.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [16:15] mmm... Did you learn more first or now? [16:15] mancha: if you had ibm microchannel hardware, you were likely to have support, after 1995 [16:15] after the bus was f'ing antiquated [16:16] I mean.. If I was born 10-15 years ago, could I learn more than now or not? [16:16] metrofox: there's more info out there, but it's easier to get by without learnin [16:16] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:16] well... I mean... I was born 14 years ago, but if you was born 25-40 years ago... [16:16] learning, even [16:17] *I was [16:17] (worst English ever, mine -.-") [16:17] metrofox: i'm 30, and still learning new things [16:17] 1 minute to learn [16:18] a lifetime to master [16:18] :P [16:18] nyRednek, I'm 14 and I'm trying to learn a lot of things, staying here, looking at people's issues and solutions, new things etc... Reading books, reading on forums etc... [16:18] at 30 you start learning how to die... [16:18] pupiteee1 (n=p@93.86.247.123) left irc: "Leaving." [16:18] jg71: to much nethack? [16:19] Now I don't know if in 90s there was more interests or things where faster and moved more rapidly than now, so you learned more [16:19] at some point the noodle gets filled up and with each new fact you learn some old fact gets displaced [16:19] *more interst [16:19] FIFO style [16:19] fifo? [16:19] first in first out [16:19] first in first out [16:19] uh... New thing I just learned :O [16:19] so you lost somethig! [16:20] there aint that much to learn [16:20] mmm... Is there a solution? [16:21] fire|bird: you want a more current screenshot? [16:21] sure [16:22] if you're 14 i wouldn't worry, at that age the brain is just a sponge, flood it with info [16:23] i flooded mine with beer T_T [16:23] dont do that [16:23] :P [16:23] madbear, LOL [16:23] just don't flash flood it, your brain will be floating down the information river without a paddle. [16:23] mancha, I pass everyday in front of this laptop looking for something new and for something to learn... [16:24] Axius (n=fd@92.85.215.79) left irc: Connection timed out [16:24] :P [16:24] hrmm, also try to see the light of day! a brain that only gets computer stimuli doesn't develop ofther parts of the neural net [16:24] I may not consider it a good thing, but I do [16:25] mancha, ah well I do... I'm at school during the morning, I go out if I've to do something like buying or whatever you want ;) [16:25] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [16:26] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:26] in 3 years you have a neck like mine... stiffer than a scared cat [16:26] fire|bird: http://imagebin.org/67957 [16:26] nyRednek: i also want to look [16:26] can i [16:26] L:) [16:26] naa [16:26] ;/ [16:26] madbear: let's see, i posted it in public [16:27] nyRednek: looking nice, combining those various elements sure cleaned the desktop up. [16:27] nyRednek: looks like the 90s!! [16:27] lol [16:27] What's wrong with the 90s? :P [16:27] fire|bird: yeah, and, as you may have noticed, i put the irc, im, and mail into screen sessions [16:27] uh-uh! Look at that! There's me there!(Peter Griffin behaviour) [16:27] nyRednek: yeah, screen ftw!!! [16:28] fire|bird: now for a screen-able mp3 player that utilizes alsa instead of oss devices [16:28] mikinanuq (n=mikinanu@71-215-66-226.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:29] nyRednek: nmus dont? [16:29] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [16:29] madbear: ? [16:30] nyRednek: screen able mp3 alsa . tried nmus? [16:30] madbear: not yet [16:30] k [16:31] hi guys, anyone know of a performance monitor tool for the terminal? sort of like top but not as verbose. basically I want to have something like conky or gkrellm in the terminal [16:31] well.. gonna read something like C now ;) [16:32] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [16:32] madbear: i'd prefer something with a slackbuild [16:32] see ya soon [16:32] cu metrofox [16:32] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) joined ##slackware. [16:32] nyRednek: well whats up with that? :P [16:32] madbear: it means it'd be a package i could remove with removepkg [16:33] nyRednek: yeah sure but cant you make uninstall it [16:33] :P [16:33] mikinanuq: what about htop [16:34] not all devs have an uninstall ruleset in their makefiles, unfortunately [16:34] madbear: I'll take a look [16:34] thought it's simple enough to keep track of an install process. why not just make a slackpack out of it though? [16:35] Action: spook casts magic missile [16:35] Action: madbear resists [16:35] Action: spook casts magic missile at the darkness [16:36] Action: winter faids into light [16:36] mikinanuq, why not just conky? it can run in a terminal I think [16:36] Action: nyRednek casts wither at all [16:36] Action: madbear burned a duron 900 today [16:36] my server cpu :/ [16:36] \o [16:36] \o/* [16:36] Action: spook uses detect evil, sterilising everyone [16:37] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:38] thrice`: really, ok I'll check it out. htop is nice too, just need something to show network traffic and HD space. [16:39] 22:36 * winter faids into light [16:39] you wanted somethign less involved than top, well isn't htop like top on steroids plus all kinds of colors? [16:39] yeah it is [16:39] Action: winter shifts in light [16:39] that should be correct [16:40] mikinanuq: diskspace: "df" "du" "ncdu" for network: vnstats, iftop .. to name some. [16:40] alicephilippa (i=alice@78.105.168.173) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:40] iftop? o.O [16:40] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:41] straterra: are you not agreeing with it? or are haven't you heard of it? [16:41] mancha: true, I was going to settle on having a couple of utils runnig if something like a shell conky was not available [16:41] Haven't heard of it [16:41] straterra: http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pdw/iftop/ [16:41] iftop, iptraf [16:41] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:41] practor (n=practor@58.82.81-79.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [16:41] mpd [16:41] a daemon...hehe [16:41] Looks spiffy [16:42] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [16:42] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:44] iotop is also nice [16:44] ok I guess I'll run htop and iftraf :) not as sleek but it will do thanks [16:44] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "tive que ir embora" [16:45] but..iotop uses python [16:45] straterra: and? [16:45] Nothing..just saying [16:45] straterra: if nothing, then why begin the sentence with 'but'? [16:45] straterra: I'll check it out [16:47] straterra: oh that iotop is slick, maybe not exactly what I need now but it's a nice tool. [16:48] iftop is kinda...nifty looking [16:49] -i doesnt seem to work [16:49] it works [16:49] I'm looking through ssh and screen so all the ACII interface come out strange in iftop, not sure if it's screen or just ssh that messes it up [16:51] Cardeal (n=cardeal@unaffiliated/ldap) left irc: "Leaving" [16:51] mpd wants your music in ~/music [16:51] going for squash [16:52] no, mpd wants your music in the location you specify in /etc/mpd.conf [16:53] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-51-105.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:53] tooly (n=tooly@e178169007.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [16:56] ososid (n=void@a81-84-23-106.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [16:56] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:58] practor (n=practor@58.82.81-79.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:58] paissad_ (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[17:26] PenPerk (n=carlj@71.246.216.235) joined ##slackware. [17:26] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [17:28] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:29] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:30] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [17:30] guys, I go to bed now, see ya ;) [17:31] metrofox: ciao [17:31] paul424: you mean point 5? But, yeah, to actually be upgraded, you need to take account of not just new semantics but changes in values in any of them. [17:31] ciao deco [17:31] metrofox: later :) [17:31] later slakmagik [17:31] night metrofox [17:31] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.169.168) left irc: "+-||\-" [17:31] plus the fact you may have changes in the old config that have to be modified for the new version of the program [17:31] for instance, if group ids change or whatever [17:31] yep [17:32] so it's basically a merge process for things you've customized and a replace process for others [17:33] alecs_gnomer (n=ubuntu@201009178005.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:33] Boa Noite... [17:34] Preciso de Ajuda.... Biblioteca GTK não consigo instalar [17:34] oh hmmm [17:34] gtk library can't be installed ... [17:34] alecs_gnomer: buena noches [17:34] Buenas.. [17:35] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:35] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [17:35] Hey Hey... This room speak.... Portuguese or english.. [17:35] alecs_gnomer: si [17:36] or spanish... [17:36] alecs_gnomer: english [17:36] I need a little help.. here.. [17:36] k [17:36] say it [17:37] I Need run xmms, but he need GTK.... [17:37] Blaguvest (n=Blaguves@h68n3-bot-a12.ias.bredband.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:37] alecs_gnomer: install the whole dvd [17:37] problem solved... [17:37] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:37] alecs_gnomer: you do reaslise there is a brazilian slackware channel right? [17:37] Please Link for Download this Disc [17:37] or Soft... [17:38] alecs_gnomer: http://slackware.com/getslack/list.php?country=Brasil [17:38] Thnx... [17:38] you're welcome [17:39] Brazilian Channel (#slackware-br) this is.... [17:39] can't be connect..... [17:39] he has the same problem another brazilian had... [17:40] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:40] his hostmask is banned? [17:40] probrably ... [17:40] problably* [17:41] Sorry... Sorry.. [17:41] i myself can't access #php ... [17:41] Hum... the channel #slackware-br, need register... [17:42] deco: third time's the charm :) [17:42] See everybody later.. [17:42] flws.. [17:44] slakmagik: what's that suppose to mean ?.... [17:44] .... [17:45] cwwilson721 (n=cwwilson@12.175.44.24) joined ##slackware. [17:45] cwwilson721 (n=cwwilson@12.175.44.24) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:46] hello happy people [17:47] i finally got a config solution that works [17:47] \o/ [17:47] configure all accounts into one gmail, including ability to send, then set up smtp and imap to gmail on pine [17:48] alphad64 (n=alphad@41.207.31.122) joined ##slackware. [17:49] slakmagik: sorry back to the conversation, I mean I have ~250 config files so how I can be sure that somethign don't broke up if I move them mechanically from old to new like the Peter's script from point 5 [17:50] _maxiwll_AR (n=_maxiwll@201-75-46-15-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:50] deco: register your nick. [17:51] deco: the php admins should remove that restriction, IMO [17:51] thumbs: oh , ok thanks [17:51] yeah they should.. [17:52] dv- (i=dv@eclipse.drluna.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:53] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:53] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [17:53] alecs_gnomer (n=ubuntu@201009178005.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Leaving." [17:54] good night [17:54] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [17:55] deco: oh, sorry - wandered off. I meant your typing 'probrably' and correcting it to 'problably' :) [17:55] paul424: yeah, I wouldn't move them over mechanically in that sense [17:56] mikinanuq (n=mikinanu@71-215-66-226.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:59] paul424: but you only need to look for and merge the '.new' files and there won't be 250 of those. You can automate this with a simple (or complicated) shell script if necessary. [18:02] which is what the snippet in UPGRADE.txt is/does but it inverts it from a "merge '.new' into foo" process to a "merge '.bak' into foo" process and removes some files from the equation, which you'd still possibly need to merge anyway [18:04] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [18:06] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [18:08] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. 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[18:37] phoenix^: i'm thinking of using a wm again hmmmm [18:37] fluxbox or pekwm ftw!!! :P [18:38] fire|bird: yeah :P playing with twm right now [18:38] twm ?!?!?!?!? :P [18:38] fire|bird: old school :P [18:38] no doubt [18:38] but dunno really ill see... [18:39] gonna play with them all [18:39] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [18:40] pekman looks nice [18:41] yeah, that's what I did not so long ago, I spent time using all of them and figuring out which ones I liked and didn't like. [18:41] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:42] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [18:42] yeah it's fun too [18:42] definitely [18:43] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) joined ##slackware. [18:44] ososid (n=ososid@a81-84-23-106.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:47] deco: Could always use xfce again too. :P [18:48] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FF5E9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Don't mind your make-up, make your mind up!" [18:49] fire|bird: that too :P [18:49] so light, it's almost a wm. :P [18:49] fire|bird: *feels* light actually :P [18:50] Could give lxde a try too, similar to xfce. [18:50] i should , i've never tried it [18:51] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:51] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:58] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) joined ##slackware. [18:58] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:04] who has slackware64 with all the updates? what do you get with this? `ldd /opt/kde3/lib64/qt3/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlmysql.so |grep -i sql` and `ls /var/log/packages/*|grep -i mysql` [19:05] for me the qt lib is compiled against the wrong mysql [19:05] did you update to -current? [19:06] well since slackware64 does not come with kde3 [19:06] XGizzmo: it does if you install the kde3-compat libs from /extra [19:06] thrice`, no [19:07] edman007, what does "ls /var/log/packages/mysql* say ? [19:07] artv61 (n=artv61@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:07] 5.1 [19:07] maybe it is current... [19:07] i got to check my scripts [19:07] edman007: er.. [19:07] it is [19:08] damn :( [19:08] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:08] thrice`, rub my feet.. they hurt [19:08] VivaVista (n=dag@75.47.97.224) joined ##slackware. [19:08] VivaVista (n=dag@75.47.97.224) left ##slackware. [19:08] Action: edman007 whacks jeev's feet with bamboo [19:08] weird [19:09] edman007, if you are running current, you would of course have checked the changelog to see that mysql has been updated, but none of the kde3-compat packages have been touched [19:09] edman007, bamboo doesn't do anything to me [19:10] Action: edman007 cries [19:10] i did check...after i updatesd [19:11] ososid (n=ososid@a81-84-23-106.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [19:12] bruc3 (n=bruc3@189.56.20.108) joined ##slackware. [19:12] bruc3 (n=bruc3@189.56.20.108) left ##slackware. [19:12] gnubien (n=e@58.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:13] jeev jeev [19:13] Reticent1 (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:14] hrm, so anyone know how to relink a .so without recompiling? [19:14] because i'm lazy [19:15] jescis_ (n=jescis@adsl-93-66-190.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:17] sup deco [19:17] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-93-66-190.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:18] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) joined ##slackware. [19:19] jeev: i got a new ebook , pretty cool php ,javascript and mysql [19:20] Hi [19:20] Has kpdf been removed from slackware? [19:20] use okular [19:20] Tirili: it's not part of KDE4, I believe it has been replaced by okular. [19:21] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-76-179-231-3.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:21] The executable is missing here but there is still an option to open pdfs with kpdf. [19:21] bah. i have x finally woot! no prop drivers though :/ [19:21] Yes, okular is what I use now instead. [19:21] Dominian: reinstalling X and hal with slackpkg worked [19:21] slackie (n=x@87-196-16-213.net.novis.pt) left irc: "brb" [19:22] hugohagogo (n=hugohago@189.23.230.7) joined ##slackware. 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[19:44] vastina: wireshark [19:44] ananke: how lean is it? can i run it straight from cli? [researching btw] [19:44] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:46] Action: vastina downloads source still wondering if it's a gui app [19:47] its a gui app [19:47] google is hard, isn't it [19:47] ananke: so is participation in one's own discussion. [19:48] monologues are quite easy [19:48] dartmouth: google is very friendly [19:48] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:48] ananke: it's not clarifying on the web-site, called a question of elaboration, got it now though, appreciate the suggestion [19:48] vastina: did you check slackbuilds.org for it first? [19:49] definitely use the slackbuild [19:49] thumbs: of course, i was asking the gui/cli question over it's acceptable functionality on an obsd box [19:49] wubbster (n=wubbster@24.206.157.137) joined ##slackware. [19:50] non-gui [19:53] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:54] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:54] not bad, thanks ananke [19:54] anyone gotten rtl8187 into master mode? [19:55] vastina: wireshark is probably your best bet for packet analysis. if all you need to do is sniff traffic without gui, tcpdump would be the answer [19:58] ananke: i was actually thinking the same thing :) good to know though and this does get into the details i was looking for [19:59] packeteer (n=zed@150.101.122.57) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [20:00] i just need a tool to help me quickly identify the packets and routes i want to create rules upon [20:00] s/need/needed [20:04] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-135-69.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [20:05] vastina: if there were a tool that did this well you'd have never heard of wireshark :P [20:05] rachael (n=nrachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:05] dartmouth: true [20:05] Hachi_ (n=hachi@c-69-250-12-106.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:06] i have to say though, tcpdump is an epic tool [20:06] can someone please help me get stubs.32-h file for slackware 13 x64 for the purpose of compiling 32-bit apps? [20:07] anyone? [20:09] ..... [20:09] how to run a screen session and detach from a shell script? [20:09] Hachi_: www.slackware.com/~alien [20:10] it takes more than the stubs.32-h file [20:10] nyRednek: screen and then ^A ^D as per screen(1) [20:11] alphad64 (n=alphad@41.207.31.122) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:11] nyRednek: thanks, ill take a look [20:12] BP{k}: i know how to run screen and detach from a shell window, but i was hoping to automate it, if possiblw [20:12] possiblw [20:12] possible [20:12] nyRednek: what .. you mean as in start screen + script/program and run detached in the gbackground? [20:13] Hachi_: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib <- :) [20:13] BP{k}: yeah [20:14] BP{k}: starting it in a detached state would be ice [20:15] nyRednek: -d -m Start screen in "detached" mode. [20:15] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.156.52) joined ##slackware. [20:16] nyRednek: so you could do "screen -d -m irssi" for example .. which will start screen with irssi but detached [20:17] let me try this...brb [20:17] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [20:17] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:17] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) left ##slackware. [20:17] silly enough .. that is exactly highlighted in the screen manpage. [20:18] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:18] BP{k}: kickass [20:19] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-171-3.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [20:21] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [20:21] hmm...know of a hebrew-english font for xterm? [20:21] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:23] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-135-69.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [20:24] nyRednek: this ? http://linuxil.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/download-hebrew-x-fonts/ [20:25] rachael (n=nnrachae@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [20:27] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.150.184) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:28] dgc_ (n=dgc_@189.71.234.220) joined ##slackware. [20:28] dgc_ (n=dgc_@189.71.234.220) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:28] deco: there are hebrew fonts already installed [20:28] i just don't remember which ones are there [20:30] oh hmmmm there's this command i forgot that shows all the fonts you installed.. [20:30] you have installed* [20:30] nyRednek: xlsfonts [20:31] ok, there's 6x13 and 8x13 [20:31] small fonts [20:32] nyRednek: as I said on the other channel, you can use any tt/ot font you like. [20:33] fixed spaced fonts would look better, but that isn't really necessary [20:33] but i'd rather, for the time being use something close to what the defaults are...the default on fvwm for xterm font, 7x14 [20:36] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:37] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.112.136) joined ##slackware. [20:37] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [20:40] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:42] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [20:42] steiger__ (n=steiger@189.105.113.234) joined ##slackware. [20:42] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:44] this sucks... [20:44] xterm doesn't appear to be accepting hebrew input [20:45] rachael (n=nnrachae@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:47] wow [20:47] air quality in LA is nasty right now [20:47] rachael (n=nnnracha@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [20:47] .... [20:47] fucking NASTy [20:47] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.112.136) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:47] i can't believe it was cloudy just last night [20:47] an right now it's smoggy immediately [20:47] it was raining [20:47] shouldn't it clear up after the rain ? [20:47] hmmmm i guess.. [20:48] you can't see LA [20:48] http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/files/images/2008-04-los-angeles-smog.jpg [20:48] twice as bad as that [20:48] i couldn't see those buildings from the 105 freeway [20:48] heh [20:49] 6.5 miles [20:49] even a bit closer [20:49] initself (n=initself@wsip-98-174-154-206.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:49] i just started seeing the buildings a little after the colisium [20:49] coliseum [20:49] wow [20:50] valley is not that bad but it's stil bad, i was driving up the mountain today and i could see the shit evvvvvvvvvvvvvvvverywhere [20:50] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [20:50] steiger_ (n=steiger@189.105.47.180) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:50] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:52] Kiboney: hey, another new yorker here [20:52] Heya [20:52] which boro? [20:52] Manhattan [20:52] Kiboney: staten island [20:52] Used to live there :D [20:53] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:53] why'd ya leave? [20:53] oh well [20:53] he can have those stuck up plastic middle aged housewives [20:53] i like girls with a little extra meat [20:55] jeev: You're in LA? [20:56] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:56] of course.... [20:56] preferably a brooklyn girl [20:56] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:57] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "Leaving" [20:57] anyone know how to read each line of a file in bash and use it to execute a loop? [20:57] it must be possible to use the builtins to read a file line by line and execute a loop on each line [20:58] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:58] edman007: let's see...if statements exist in bash [20:58] edman007: and variable assignment [20:59] edman007: maybe, but not absolutely sure [21:00] ahh, i see...the pipe goes after the entire loop, gah, that looks weird and confusing [21:00] while read i ; do echo $i ; done < /var/log/packages/aaa_elflibs-13.0-x86_64-2 [21:00] confusing right> [21:00] especially when that inner loop gets big [21:03] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [21:05] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:07] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:07] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:10] howdy all [21:10] howdy agentc0re [21:13] anyone have any ideas? there is a driver it looks like from aircrack-ng but dont want to waste time if it does not work [21:14] rachael (n=nnnracha@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:15] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:15] driver for what? [21:16] ViN86 (n=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-THREE-FORTY-SEVEN.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [21:16] julioc (n=Who@201-68-31-197.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:19] rachael (n=nnnnrach@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [21:20] fire|bird: how goes it dude? [21:20] agentc0re: goes great, thanks. you? [21:20] fire|bird: you've been quiter than normal lately. [21:21] haha, yeah, I guess I have. [21:21] he's having too much fun with the shitlist , that's why [21:21] :P [21:22] hahaha, agentc0re did you see that a few days ago? I found a couple scripts for irssi that implemented a shitlist, when you add people to it, 1) it notifies the channel and 2) it shows [shitlisted] for everything they type. [21:23] I added deco to it. :) [21:23] going good, knee is good. toes are good. skydiving this weekend! :D [21:24] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:24] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [21:24] fire|bird: LMAO.. I did not see that. [21:24] cool, try and land this time. :P [21:24] good... [21:24] hahaha [21:24] that's too funny. [21:24] agentc0re: it was awesome, check the logs if you want to see it, I forget which day it was. [21:25] how does it notify the channel? seems like that could get annoying. [21:25] agentc0re: It could if done alot. [21:25] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:26] good evening everyone [21:26] hello mfillpot. [21:26] evening mfillpot [21:27] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:27] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [21:27] agentc0re: http://wigglit.ath.cx/slackware_botlogs/slackware.log.10Oct2009 [21:27] search shitlist [21:28] there are one people that know a script to install ffmpeg (complete)? [21:28] julioc: hmm sorta .. you can do it with sbopkg. [21:28] agentc0re: more specifically, http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/rDloTh69.html [21:28] please go ahead and add me to your [shitlist]. [21:29] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [21:30] julioc: http://slackware.org.uk/people/alien/restricted_slackbuilds/ffmpeg/ [21:31] julioc: Roughly, it should be something like: 'sbopkg -i "faad2 lame openjpeg schroedinger speex xvidcore yasm libmp4v2 faac x264 dirac amrnb amrwb libdc1394 ffmpeg" ' [21:34] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [21:34] sonds that will work [21:34] BP{k}: that's alot of packages, what are all of them needed for? [21:35] mfillpot: heck knows :) that's all the the stuff mentioned on the ffmpeg README :) [21:36] optional deps for ffmpeg to enable various codecs [21:36] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [21:36] yes, its "all" [21:37] fire|bird: lol!! [21:38] thanks, tomorrow I'll try this (I'm exausted, I was compiling manually all libs etc) [21:38] BP{k}: heh, ya. then the readme's of those want some stuff too. :P [21:38] gnight [21:38] agentc0re: that happened that day *just* after you joined. [21:38] julioc: the above method is the "quick and dirty" there is a slightly better method of doing it .. [21:38] ah, just my luck. [21:38] good night julioc [21:38] agentc0re: not as much as you would suspect actually :) [21:39] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) joined ##slackware. [21:39] agentc0re: It uses irssi's trigger script, and it could be modified so that it didn't notify the channel. [21:39] julioc: the way I build it, was build first all the stuff that has no dependencies, then build the stuff that has depenencies seperately. That way you keep stuff as clean as possible, then finally install everything, and compile ffmpeg [21:40] Okay, here's my FFMPEG saved list from sbopkg. libmp4v2,yasm,faac,faad2,lame.x264,openjpeg,xvidcore,ffmpeg [21:42] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [21:42] agentc0re: yeah, a lot depends on what you features you turn on/off at compile time. [21:42] may be tiring yet, heheh [21:42] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) joined ##slackware. [21:42] yes KB1JWQ, why? [21:43] agentc0re: and his dependencies? [21:46] http://www.viddler.com/explore/sxephil/videos/66/53.097/ lmao!! [21:47] and the burn after wards....(too lazy for tinyurl.. http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Puddle-Splashing-Driver-Charged-For-Splashing-School-Kids-In-Plymouth-Devon/Article/200910215405349?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15405349_Puddle_Splashing:_Driver_Charged_For_Splashing_School_Kids_I [21:47] holy shit... that is huge. [21:47] that's what she said [21:50] ...... [21:50] k, thanks for all, sorry for bad english and gnight friends [21:50] julioc (n=Who@unaffiliated/juli0/x-182974) left irc: "Use the source, guy" [21:51] PenPerk (n=carlj@71.246.216.235) left irc: "Leaving" [21:52] hmmm gonna mess around with some wm's [21:52] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:53] jeev: Whereabouts in the city? [21:53] valley, glendale [21:53] if you're gonna send your boys here.. tell them i want to know what the next big thing they're doing is so i could stay safe! [21:53] (teehee) [21:53] you ? [21:54] Hah! I just quit a job in Woodland Hills, Marina del Rey is where I live. [21:54] Guess that means the first round's on me? [21:54] ahh cool [21:54] i dont drink [21:54] where were you in wodoland hills, io aws there today [21:54] i was there today [21:54] Warner Center, Oxnard and Topanga. [21:55] oh yea i know wh ere that is [21:55] they have some crazy bus center there [21:55] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [21:55] ea_suter (n=easuter@84.90.182.83) joined ##slackware. [21:56] hi folks [21:56] dogsoul (i=doggy@root.slackbox.org) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:56] can you explain that ? [21:56] just a good location to have 40 busses go to ? [21:56] Action: dartmouth throws pork at jeev [21:57] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:57] I am trying to install slackware onto a pendrive. I did a minimal installation, but when I try to boot it the kernel panics saying that the disk cant be mounted... [21:57] any ideas? [21:57] dartmouth, i eat pork.. [21:59] jeev: i always suspected something wasn't quite kosher about you... ^_^ [21:59] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:00] damn right [22:01] dogsoul (i=doggy@root.slackbox.org) joined ##slackware. [22:02] no shit [22:02] slackie (n=x@87-196-16-213.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [22:03] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.122.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:04] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:05] jeev is a strange one [22:07] thrice`: understatement [22:08] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [22:11] thrice`: s/strange/fucking idiot/ [22:11] thrice`: :P [22:12] agentc0re: agreed too. [22:13] ferdna (n=ferdna@24.92.112.49) joined ##slackware. [22:13] thumbs: It's kind of hard not to agree with that. [22:14] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:14] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [22:15] i think jeev is a nice guy [22:15] don't let him fool you [22:15] john_dee (n=id@93-81-69-10.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [22:16] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:17] hahahha. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDNtzMUy4vs just wait for the end... it's the best abbreviations. hahah. [22:17] steiger__: Some thought Hitler was a nice guy too.. [22:18] true, there is always someone that`ll find you nice [22:19] by that logic, there is always someone that`ll find a douchebag to be nice [22:19] steiger__: exactly, consider how many people like john mayer [22:20] har har har [22:20] i'm the nicest, coolest one of you [22:21] when compared to a pack of angry boars, yeah [22:21] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [22:21] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [22:22] nyRednek, i've had many run ins with angry boars and once you get to know them.. they treat you well [22:22] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.38.146) joined ##slackware. [22:23] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-162-151.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:23] jeev: i've heard that said, yet i dare not find out from personal experience [22:24] jeev: you ever considered they were just extending proffesional courtesey? [22:24] like sharks to a lawyer, perhaps? [22:25] exactly :) [22:26] BP{k}, wild boars have a bad rep. [22:26] they're nice creatures, i have a painting of them playing cards on my wall [22:27] Lymphocyte (n=lymphocy@c-24-91-57-228.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:27] Ban me [22:27] why [22:27] why? you seem nice [22:28] nicer than me to some people [22:28] i dont have to ask, it happens to me [22:28] Lymphocyte (n=lymphocy@c-24-91-57-228.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: K-lined [22:28] oh shit [22:28] sexy [22:28] he came, he asked, he received? [22:29] that's what's odd about it [22:29] cause he was in #freenode [22:29] nyRednek: you don't know what he was doing in other channels. [22:30] probably said something dumb there [22:30] jeev: probably [22:30] i hate godaddy [22:31] but if his only offense was asking to be banned, i would be the ass and refuse [22:32] agreed, godaddy sucks [22:35] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-88-216.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:36] That guy is a known troll [22:36] which guy, me? [22:36] Lymphocyte [22:36] Dominian: ah... [22:36] ahh Dominian, thought you were talking about thumbs [22:36] haha no [22:37] Dominian: i was about to leave in a huff and stay around #slackbuilds [22:37] CARL SAGAN ROCKS [22:37] steiger__ (n=steiger@189.105.113.234) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:38] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:40] wow [22:40] the only person who said i was nice ended up being a weirdo [22:40] what, no, carl sagan rocks, everybody knows that [22:41] slackie (n=x@87-196-16-213.net.novis.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:41] jeev: in all honesty, we've never had an issue and i don't have one with you [22:43] cool nyRednek, yea the only person who does is thrice` and i dont blame him, he caught me sleeping with his mom [22:44] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-88-216.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:45] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-76-179-231-3.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [22:46] CallMe_JC (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-88-216.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:46] hugohagogo (n=hugohago@189.23.230.7) left irc: "Leaving" [22:47] jeev: if i caught you sleeping with my mom, i'd laugh at her for sleeping with a net slacker [22:47] heh [22:47] my mom and i aren't on good terms [22:48] no, i think my first words would be wtf are you doing in the same region of the us as me? [22:48] nyRednek: no moms likes a drug using son [22:48] well, some do [22:48] http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=1730 i would say that pretty much sums it up. [22:48] steiger: look, i wouldn't be on the pills if the bitch didn't put them down my throat as i was growing up [22:49] nyRednek: well, habit justified. [22:49] no, in all seriousness, i've been clean for years [22:49] but that's about to change tomorrow, with good reason...my back degraded to point that my wife and oldest daughter had to help me out of bed this morning [22:50] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:50] your back sucks ;/ [22:50] steiger: yeah [22:50] steiger: trucking will do it [22:50] being a redneck will do it too eh [22:50] haha [22:51] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:51] jeev: fighting tandom pins and 5th wheel releases will tear your body up in more ways than you want to know [22:53] how about crushing beer cans on your head too eh [22:53] haha [22:55] so one of the guys at our LUG is a windows 7 beta tester, and they apparently sent him a release party pack... so he shows up at the LUG meeting tonight as passes out microsoft swag to everyone [22:55] what a perfect troll [22:56] jeev: never cared to do that...was too busy smoking some home grown and laughing at EVERYTHING [22:57] nyRednek: it`s awesome to be able to home-grow [22:58] unfortunately i can`t ;( [22:58] or know someone else that does [22:58] yeah. but it`s even better to homegrow yourself [22:59] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:00] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [23:00] CallMe_JC (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-88-216.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:02] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) joined ##slackware. [23:05] jeev: see? they were nice enough to pose for the artist [23:05] damnit i just realized that was like 30 min ago hahaha [23:05] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:07] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] silent_contender (n=silent@24.214.169.9) joined ##slackware. [23:09] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [23:14] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:14] cpuobsessed (n=tim@74.183.121.238) joined ##slackware. [23:15] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:15] _bruno_ (n=bruno@189-47-251-209.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:15] Nick change: _bruno_ -> _bruno [23:16] Hachi_ (n=hachi@c-69-250-12-106.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:19] well. pretty noisy in here tonight. 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[23:31] fhobia: okular is the new one in kde [23:32] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:32] ah [23:34] silent_contender (n=silent@24.214.169.9) left irc: "Leaving" [23:34] wubbster (n=wubbster@24.206.157.137) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [23:36] steiger: It's workable. :) [23:37] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-134-184.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:37] It's actually not bad, come to think of it. [23:37] Mornin' [23:37] hi [23:37] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-134-184.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:38] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:39] jhell (n=89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: "BBIAM This machine is take a pkg_delete dive tonight." [23:40] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:41] FriedBob_ (n=FriedBob@c-98-233-71-205.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:45] does slack support the official nvidia drivers? [23:45] in extra, or something [23:45] yes [23:46] look the slackbuild [23:46] i can`t find it [23:46] don't need a slackbuild, just run the one direct from Nvidia [23:46] works fine [23:46] http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=nvidia&sv=13.0 [23:46] cpuobsessed (n=tim@74.183.121.238) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [23:47] nvidia driver/kernel [23:47] oh [23:47] so it`s a SBo package [23:47] did not tried it but i should work [23:47] why muck around with that? Just use the one from Nvidia [23:48] it* [23:48] fire|bird: have you heard this one, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj9A0bSaxLI&feature [23:48] danc3: yeah, i guess i`ll do that. [23:48] fire|bird: made me laugh.. that's hilarious. [23:49] agentc0re: hahahaha, no, hadn't heard that one. [23:49] steiger: in short. No Slackware does not support nvidia binary blog or ATI for that matter. :) [23:49] fire|bird: the lyrics are the best. [23:49] fire|bird: santa wants sleigh head.. hahaha [23:49] hahaha [23:49] i laugh at nvidia`s download rules [23:50] "read carefully the software license blabla" [23:50] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:51] seriously, well, i never do and i know of nobody that does read those crappy licences extensively [23:51] well, gonna get some sleep. bye [23:52] Nvidia will show up to claim your first born in the morning [23:52] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [23:52] hello [23:52] 'lo [23:53] BP{k}, Oi oi! [23:53] FriedBob_: howdy :) [23:53] How goes? [23:53] FriedBob (n=FriedBob@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:53] Nick change: FriedBob_ -> FriedBob [23:53] does anyone here uses elvis? [23:54] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] Not I [23:54] said the blind guy [23:54] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] [ in bed ] [23:54] hey hitest [23:54] fire|bird: back in xfce, awww the speed :p [23:54] I'm having problems with utf-8 but googling about it is a bit hard... :p [23:54] hiya fire|bird:) [23:55] deco: nice [23:55] How are you hitest? [23:55] oldude67 (n=duh@c-98-212-246-217.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:56] I am well, fire|bird, ty. how are you/ [23:56] ? [23:56] jeez my typing....... [23:56] hitest: I'm great, thank you. :) [23:56] :) [23:57] yw [23:57] so how did you like fedora 11? [23:57] hey how are things going in the world of slack lately? [23:57] how is release 13 running? [23:58] oldude67: good for me ;) [23:58] oldude67: slack 13 is wonderful [23:58] hitest: It's nice, still have it in the vm, but haven't done alot with it. [23:59] great, been using deb for a while, and im just not happy with all there little quirks, so im going to down load the 13 and run it [23:59] how many install disks are there still 2 or is there 3 now? [00:00] --- Fri Oct 16 2009