[00:01] PLEASE GOD SOMEONE HELP ME! Ok, so, I read that wiki, googled some more, read all sorts of shit. I have synclient working fine(didnt do anything, its working) changing options, seeing effects of options on the fly, but no matter what i do, i can not tap to click! (yes i tried "synclient TapButton1=1" [00:01] it worked fine in slack 12.1 [00:02] slackin: I can pastebin an example that works for my Alps pad [00:02] few mins [00:02] and all the other options seem to work fine, like scrolling and pressure/edge settings [00:02] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:03] and i love syndeamon, never knew about that [00:03] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/PXkBb215.html [00:05] antiwire: the only difference in mine is the edge settings [00:06] antiwire: you in slack13 and tap->click works? [00:06] -current and tap to click works [00:06] im pullin my freakin hair out here [00:07] its been a long time since something gave me this much shit [00:07] hm, I had the opposite problem: I disabled tap-to-click in 12.1, then upgraded to 13.0 and suddenly had it back again (I hate hate *hate* tap-to-click...) [00:07] look here too /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf [00:07] I have mine commented out. [00:08] its blank [00:08] k [00:08] Do you have an xorg.conf file? [00:08] antiwire: maybe gpm interfering? [00:08] I have gpm disabled [00:09] maybe it gpm is acting as a relay [00:09] you shouldn't run gpm unless you actually spend lots of time in the console... [00:09] *if [00:09] I don't know if that is the cause though [00:09] synclient -l | grep TapButton [00:09] no thats not it [00:09] turned gpm off [00:09] no change [00:09] do. it. now. [00:09] TapButton1 = 1 [00:09] TapButton2 = 2 [00:09] TapButton3 = 3 [00:09] i set them [00:09] they were all 0 [00:10] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [00:10] Try setting only TapButton1 to 1 and the rest to 0 [00:10] k one sec [00:11] nope [00:11] TapButton1 = 1 [00:11] TapButton2 = 0 [00:11] TapButton3 = 0 [00:11] yea [00:11] nope [00:11] and all of your other settings are the same to what is in the paste I did? [00:11] TouchpadOff ? [00:11] TouchpadOff = 0 [00:13] grep synaptics /var/log/Xorg.0.log [00:13] (II) LoadModule: "synaptics" [00:13] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//synaptics_drv.so [00:13] (II) Module synaptics: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [00:14] synclient IS changing stuff [00:14] on the fly [00:14] like when i change scroll settings [00:14] i got those working [00:14] thank god [00:14] well [00:14] actually i care less about them than tap to click [00:14] lol [00:14] maybe your edges are whack, recmeber tapbutton is non-corner [00:15] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:16] mancha: ill play with the edges some [00:17] what are they now? synclient -l | grep ".*Edge " [00:19] Someone needs to learn to pastebin. [00:19] stu_ (~stuart@115.135.226.176) joined ##slackware. [00:19] LeftEdge = 1752 [00:19] RightEdge = 5192 [00:19] TopEdge = 1620 [00:19] BottomEdge = 4236 [00:19] wtf? [00:19] FriedBob: with no tap to click, select dragging is like IMPOSSIBLE [00:19] i used synclient -m 50 to verify thats not wack [00:19] its about right [00:20] FriedBob: i am not c/p'ing that i'm /exec -o'ing [00:21] clear [00:21] ok those alues jive with x & y from synclient -m ? [00:21] *values [00:21] yea [00:21] all right - i'm out of ideas. see ya.\ [00:21] stu__ (~stuart@115.135.231.75) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:22] mancha: thanks for tryin! :| oo well [00:22] ill keep messin around hoping something does it [00:26] M1ck3y (~jon@c-68-40-207-181.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] M1ck3y (~jon@c-68-40-207-181.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:27] M1ck3y (~jon@c-68-40-207-181.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:27] slackaholic (~Diego@187-25-157-10.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:27] bleeding|edge (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. 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[00:39] jlarrew (~WallRat00@75.133.29.111) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:44] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:46] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [00:49] mario (mario@213.147.122.31) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:49] M1ck3y (~jon@c-68-40-207-181.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [00:49] vhann (~vhann@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:50] Hi, is someone experiencing problems with dhcpcd and DNS/FQDN ? My Slackware box is the only one with issues in my LAN [00:51] mario (mario@213.147.122.31) joined ##slackware. [00:51] Euthanatos (~chunk@67.236.115.230) joined ##slackware. [00:52] god [00:52] this sucks [00:52] i dont get it [00:52] no problems here, but you might want to check /etc/resolv.conf (which gets written by the dhcp client, if you didn't disable that) [00:52] Urchlay: Yeah, I've been checking alot [00:53] I'm starting to think it might be a problem in the router [00:53] does resolv.conf get the correct settings from the dhcp server? (same DNS servers and domain that the other clients get?) [00:53] Urchlay: Yes [00:53] hm [00:54] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [00:54] pastebin the resolv.conf (though it's simple enough I doubt I'll see anything wrong with it)... [00:54] search res.lan [00:54] then 4 DNS [00:55] hm. No dot at the end? [00:55] Nope [00:55] is "lan" pretending to be a top-level domain, or is your full domain something like .res.lan.someschool.edu or something? [00:55] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:56] Urchlay: Trying to setup a local DNS in fact [00:56] with ".lan" as a pretend TLD? [00:56] I heard .local could cause problems with some software. Yeah, .lan as a "false" TLD [00:57] I use .network for my local net [00:57] seems to work ok [00:57] if so, need a dot after it, in resolv.conf (normally that happens automagically, I dunno whether it's the dhcp client or server that's responsible for it) [00:57] I use .lan here [00:57] stu__ (~stuart@115.135.93.215) joined ##slackware. [00:57] server [00:57] search res.lan. <--- should look like that [00:57] That's Sun [00:57] They put the dot in dot com [00:58] if the server doesn't see an ending period, it thinks it needs to tack on the local domain at the end for fqdm [00:58] *groan* [00:58] rworkman: u here? [00:58] haha [00:58] yep [00:58] Urchlay: I'll try that, but I just checked my server: it worked with 'search res.lan' [00:58] i bet u can answer it [00:58] vhann: "worked" and "worked correctly" aren't always the same thing, though [00:58] hmm - not in the search key, only in the host defines I believe [00:59] Urchlay: Well, it could 'nslookup' both itself and the router correctly [00:59] the search key gives a list of domains, whereas a host entry requires the period to say it's already fqdn [00:59] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt5-port-20.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [00:59] alisonken1noc: I'm looking at a dhcpcd-generated resolv.conf that has "search myisp.net.", I suppose it could be wrong [00:59] probably doesn't hurt, but the search keyword is treated differently than a host keyword [00:59] Alright, I'll try doing a hard-reset on the router, see you in a min [01:00] ijust wanna tap to click ;( [01:00] stu_ (~stuart@115.135.226.176) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:00] slackin, did you "man synaptics" and look at the synaptics.fdi file? [01:01] yea [01:01] alisonken1noc: i have it working [01:01] as synaptics [01:01] with the scoll features n all [01:01] except you're missing tap to click? [01:01] yep [01:01] ive tried everything [01:02] including "FingerPress" and "MaxTapTime"? [01:02] and "MaxDoubleTapTime"? [01:03] yep [01:03] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.124.235) joined ##slackware. [01:03] they are all sane values [01:03] i turned press down, taptime up [01:03] just to make sure im not ol n slow [01:04] and you restarted udev to take effect? [01:04] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.142) joined ##slackware. [01:04] what does this show you? zgrep -i synaptics /proc/config.gz [01:04] alisonken1noc: umm [01:04] no [01:04] alisonken1noc: LMFAO [01:04] ok [01:04] how do i do that [01:05] /slit_wrists [01:05] sorry - hal is the one you want to restart [01:05] /fail@life [01:05] udevadm control restart (or something close to that) [01:05] just with rc script? [01:05] lulz [01:05] ok [01:05] udevadm control --reload-rules [01:05] which won't help with HAL [01:06] try /etc/rc.d/rc.hald restart [01:06] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [01:06] alisonken1noc: still not workin :/ [01:07] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:07] tsccof (~tsccof@200-96-84-28.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:07] HAL says: "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" [01:07] may need to log out/in on X again [01:07] heh [01:08] vhann (~vhann@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:08] |Slacker| (~cris@187.46.93.100) left irc: Quit: Saindo [01:10] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:10] any way to make the KDE calendar start the weeks on sundays? [01:10] Rather, is there any way to... [01:11] brb [01:11] slackin (~slackin@100.232.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:11] NaCl, should be in the options - I remember having to keep changing the setting so monday is first day of week [01:12] slackin (~slackin@68.204.232.100) joined ##slackware. [01:12] slackin (~slackin@68.204.232.100) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:12] alisonken1noc: looking at the "Digital Clock Settings" [01:13] oh [01:13] Action: NaCl facepalms [01:13] slackin (~slackin@68.204.232.100) joined ##slackware. [01:13] slackin (~slackin@68.204.232.100) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:14] system settings -> country®ion settings->times&dates <-- try that [01:14] Just found it. [01:14] Action: NaCl wonders why it didn't take the date from the localization profile stuff [01:15] slackin (~slackin@68.204.232.100) joined ##slackware. [01:15] slackin (~slackin@68.204.232.100) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:16] Nick change: jeagoss -> jeagone [01:17] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:19] Rat409 (~rat@bb-205-209-95-109.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:19] stu__ (~stuart@115.135.93.215) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:19] stu_ (~stuart@115.135.77.54) joined ##slackware. [01:21] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [01:21] slackin (~slackin@100.232.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:21] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:21] THANK JESUS! [01:22] its working! [01:22] restarted X? [01:22] after restarting hal? [01:22] alisonken1noc: welll [01:22] actually i dont think its using any of the hal stuff [01:22] you used xorg.conf? [01:22] yea [01:22] FREENOBI (~root@187.53.17.51) joined ##slackware. [01:23] ok - forgot to mention using man synaptics is for xorg.conf, but you can convert to hal .fdi syntax pretty easy [01:23] http://bugs.irssi.org/index.php?do=details&task_id=743 [01:23] whoops, wrong window :) [01:23] alisonken1noc: yea [01:24] i dont think its using the hal stuff [01:24] cause that is supposed to all be live from what i read, dont need to restart hald if your using synclient(as opposed to editing .fdi) [01:25] if you use xorg.conf, then X ignores hal, true [01:25] ahh [01:26] stu__ (~stuart@124.13.54.238) joined ##slackware. [01:26] phoenix^ (~jmr@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:26] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:28] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[01:42] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:44] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) joined ##slackware. [01:45] slackin (~slackin@100.232.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:45] stu__ (~stuart@124.13.50.224) joined ##slackware. [01:48] stu_ (~stuart@115.135.228.29) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:50] slackin (~slackin@100.232.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:52] all working great now [01:52] im totally stoaked [01:55] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [01:57] sdb1 (~mobile@h95-155-239-237.dynamic.se.alltele.net) joined ##slackware. [01:59] Hey i got another question, if anyone quickly knows the answer, my horiz scroll is activating up/down scroll [02:03] slackin (~slackin@100.232.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:03] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. 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[02:28] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:29] Slackware 14.0 ...? :3 [02:30] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:30] gcc upgraded and kde is at 4.4, so a distinct possibility [02:30] slackin (~slackin@100.232.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [02:30] :) <3 <3 <3 [02:31] hmmm - my mistake, kde 4.3.5 unless you play with alien's repo [02:31] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/2009-linuxquestions-org-members-choice-awards-91/desktop-distribution-of-the-year-780625/ [02:32] slackware did a lot better than i would expect with 190 ? hmm [02:32] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:32] i guess thats beacuse that is the official forum [02:33] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [02:34] hmmm - interesting on the sorting - or unsorted as it is [02:35] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [02:40] hm. What are people liking these days as VNC clients? [02:40] (and does SBo *really* not have any?) [02:40] oh, like tightvnc or something, Urchlay ? [02:41] yeah [02:41] i looked up vnc, and there is "gtk-vnc" and "x11vnc" [02:41] apparently SBo had a few for slack 12.2, but they never got into the 13.0 repo [02:41] gtk-vnc is a library only, and x11vnc is a server, not a client... [02:42] :) time to write a SlackBuild, Urchlay ? [02:42] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [02:42] well, time to see if the 12.2 one is OK for 13.0 and fix it if not [02:42] yeah, that would save you time [02:42] hmm nothing for NX [02:43] not even sure I remember what NX is :) [02:43] oh, its a vnc-like technology that people say performs better even over low-speed connections [02:43] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.23.33) joined ##slackware. [02:43] ah [02:44] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.23.33) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:46] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-123.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:46] stu__ (~stuart@124.13.49.53) joined ##slackware. [02:46] yah, the 12.2 build only needs minor changes [02:46] nice :) are you going to submit the updated SlackBuild ? [02:47] yah, but probably I'll try to get hold of the maintainer first [02:47] in theory I could just submit it as-is for 13.0, but I don' really wanna step on anybody's toes [02:47] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [02:47] ah, i see [02:49] sdb1 (~mobile@h95-155-239-237.dynamic.se.alltele.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:49] Action: Urchlay taps foot while waiting for compile to finish [02:50] stu_ (~stuart@124.13.59.185) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:50] :) [02:50] so what are you compiling ? [02:50] tightvnc. It just finished [02:50] ah, ok [02:51] the client seems to work ok (on x86_64) [02:51] Urchlay: can u use tightvnc to connect to windows computers? [02:51] ah, cool [02:51] Yes [02:52] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) joined ##slackware. [02:52] hmm does flash player stink on 64-bit linux still ? [02:52] lem2 (~root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [02:53] fhobia: not so bad for me at least [02:53] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:53] but I pretty much use it exclusively for youtube videos [02:54] (and the occasional game of "crazy chess") [02:54] what processor and card do you have? [02:54] latest flash player had better performance, i heard [02:54] crappy old ones. AMD athlon64 2800+ and nvidia mx4000 [02:55] ah, i see [02:55] seems to work ok for me - running 64-current with the 64-bit flash beta from adobe. even works with huludesktop [02:55] lem1 (~root@86.81.102.210) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:55] although hulu.com has a problem with it [02:55] plays youtube fine in windowed mode (not so fine fullscreen) [02:55] don't know/care about hulu [02:55] wawowe (wawowe@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-eqhzdjcaugdvmfil) joined ##slackware. [02:55] software rendering driver? or do you guys have 3d accelleration? [02:56] redtricycle: if I had any windows machines, I could... [02:56] supposed to have 3d accelerated on ati card [02:56] they say if you play a Windows CD backwards, it plays satanic messages. that's nothing, if you play it forward it installs Windows! XD [02:56] fhobia: 3d accel here (at least, opengl works, I can play quake 3 just fine, I dunno if flash is using it or not) [02:56] quake 4 just bogs down & runs like a slideshow :( [02:56] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:57] ah, i see [02:57] King_Ozzy: :) [02:58] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:58] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [02:58] anyone remember the Weezer video that was on the original win95 retail upgrade CD? [02:58] nope but i heard they put microsoft bob with every xp cd just to fill up space or something [02:58] :) [02:58] fortunately, i was too young to remember the install, just had to deal with the installed suck [02:58] the videos didn [02:59] didn't get installed when you installed the OS, they were "extras" [02:59] patchquery (~58c1712e@gateway/web/freenode/x-cmdcijldxwcretpg) joined ##slackware. [02:59] Microsoft gives extras? O_o [02:59] hello, what is the good way to do a patch file [02:59] nobody I knew back then had a PC capable of playing those videos worth a damn though, it kida backfired for MS and whoever paid to have their songs on there [03:00] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:00] i tried diff -up file file.new patch.file [03:00] but pathching fails [03:00] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-185-45.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:00] patchquery: I usually make a patch for the entire directory [03:01] can you give me a example? [03:01] something like... "cp -a foobar-0.1 foobar-0.1.patched", then edit files in foobar-0.1.patched, then "diff -Naur foobar-0.1 foobar-0.1.patched > foobar.diff" [03:01] diff -Naur dir_old dir_new > mypatch.patch [03:01] yeah, that [03:01] Action: fhobia just remember that "terminal velocity" game :P [03:01] heya,slackers [03:01] :) [03:01] honestly can't remember what the deal is with creating diffs for single files, I haven't ever done that [03:02] this patch can be then applied by anyone who has dir_old version like this: cd dir_old; patch -p1 < ../mypatch.patch [03:02] this would patch dir_old to dir_new [03:02] ok, i try this way now [03:02] ty [03:03] yah, and if you distribute patches that *don't* work that way (that require -p0 or something), it annoys people... [03:03] Urchlay, the system you're running the one with the older Intel chip? [03:03] or anyway I get annoyed [03:03] MLanden: no, that one belongs to another person who lives here [03:04] it's still working, though the graphics performance stinks (at least mplayer fullscreen is tolerable, but I couldn't stand to play games on it) [03:04] apparently solved the crashing issues it was having (heh, and damned if I remember how, now) [03:06] Urchlay, ok..was goin' to ask if you were able to use 2.11 with it [03:07] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: Everything will be ok in the end. If it is not ok, it is not the end, yet. [03:08] not sure I ever tried 2.11 (is it brand new? I tried whatever was the latest, back when messing with it, including one from intel's site that wasn't packaged for slackware) [03:08] 2.8.0 is the one that actually works [03:09] Urchlay, yeah..the driver that came out recently [03:10] that damn board has solder pads for an AGP slot, but no actual slot [03:10] before I talked him out of trying, the guy thought "hey, I know how to solder, I can fix this!" [03:11] ouch,hear ya...@_() [03:12] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:14] I *might* trust him to successfully solder a new plug on the end of a lamp cord... if I didn't have to stand next to it when he first plugged it in [03:15] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [03:17] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [03:17] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:22] Urchlay, came cross this song when backtrackin' Ramones(Dust,had Marc Bell when he was younger)..killer ass bass solo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsE5xSpm2s4 [03:22] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:23] hey, I think I like that better than most Ramones songs :) [03:23] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. [03:23] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-123.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:25] weird what one can learn when blacktracking using rateyourmusic.com [03:27] that's going on my next "driving music" CD [03:27] sweet [03:28] Urchlay, here's 'nother find I found....Billy Joel before he was Billy Joel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHaCfy2MI80 [03:30] hm, the guy on the album cover looks a bit like weird al... [03:30] stu_ (~stuart@115.135.239.123) joined ##slackware. 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[06:58] [ in bed ] [06:58] spook: didnt we beat that out of you? |) [06:59] no - I think that was Dominian :) [07:00] thats what she said? [07:00] [in bed] [07:00] so, basically, i'm being mocked? :) [07:00] SunTzu: no [07:00] 11:55:58 < alisonken1noc> don't know - he just popped in and popped out [07:00] rather, my ident is being mocled? [07:00] mocked [07:00] :) [07:01] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.54.87) joined ##slackware. [07:01] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [07:03] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [07:10] rw1 (rob@82-169-213-233.ip.telfort.nl) left ##slackware. [07:13] rw1 (~rob@82-169-213-233.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:20] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6DEE1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:24] goj (~goj@p4FE6F295.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [07:25] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [07:27] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. 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[09:41] j0z (~SPH@201.22.35.172) joined ##slackware. [09:41] j0z (~SPH@201.22.35.172) left irc: Changing host [09:41] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [09:41] gartt (~gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:41] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.181) joined ##slackware. [09:43] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-137.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:45] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [09:48] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Quit: Quitte [09:50] can someone help me convert this block of code to bash4? http://kaapa.pastebin.mozilla.org/715725 [09:50] (to fix a slackbuild) [09:51] just add a || true to the second find clause too [09:51] thanks [09:53] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:40] reading man pages reminds me of the days i used to read DOS help because my 286 couldn't play games other than prince of persia [10:40] ahh.. memories of my first .bat file [10:42] @echo off [10:42] echo hello world! [10:42] :p [10:43] haha [10:43] edlin !!! [10:44] yivz (~yiv@adsl-176-124-200.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] i never really had any use for scripting before i switched over to gnu/linux, but now i can't live without it [10:45] heh, batch files are awesome in windows [10:45] v3gard: what do you use scripts for mainly [10:45] usually time savers [10:46] here the other day i created one script for taking a screenshot of the active screen, and posting a notification to the desktop using libnotify when the job was done [10:46] a script can use libnotify? [10:46] and then i created another script for publishing that screenshot to my web server using scp and returning a notification when the job was complete :) [10:46] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [10:47] mancha: through the notify-send command :) [10:47] hey mancha [10:47] hey there. [10:48] v3gard, fair enough, didn't think of that. [10:50] fun stuff [10:50] today i wanted to check if the snort setup of a friend of mine was working, so i created a simple one-liner stating "for i in `seq 1 10`; do curl http://winyar.org/index.php?lulz=cat%20/etc/passwd; done;" [10:51] bash sure has made my life easier :) [10:51] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [10:51] did his snort catch you? [10:51] he had a WEB-MISC rule searching for "cat%20", so yeah [10:51] it said lulz :P [10:52] http://lyonsart.com/ [10:53] d3mn0id: Is there a purpose to the link, or is it just random spam? [10:53] Action: thumbs votes for spam [10:53] d3mn0id: don't do that [10:53] sPaM [10:54] thumbs: ok. [10:55] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:56] I didn't even click it, I was just wondering [10:56] yivz (yiv@adsl-176-124-200.asm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:56] ahh, I did click now. [10:56] the slackware 13 installer seems to be stuck, i'm waiting for sometime already at the "fontconfig update" stage. [10:57] Don't bother, it sucks. [10:57] Define "sometime" [10:57] the installer stalls for spammers [10:57] 20 min. [10:58] there a line in there "if [ $(whoami) == "spammer ]; then stall(); fi" [10:59] lol [10:59] v3gard: what do you use for snapshot in your script? [10:59] d3mn0id: i had that once, i had to restart and reinstall [11:00] stu_: did it work on the second try? [11:00] d3mn0id: yup. no explanation for that though [11:00] stu_: xfce4-screenshooter [11:01] d3mn0id: because i waited around 30mins at that fontconfig, so i decided to reinstall, so there's no basis to my decision lol [11:01] stu_: i can give you a link to the scripts if you are interested [11:01] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [11:01] v3gard: it's alright [11:02] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [11:03] patchquery (~58c1712e@gateway/web/freenode/x-cmdcijldxwcretpg) left irc: Quit: Page closed [11:03] rworkman, SYN [11:06] qneo (~knao@adsl-dyn180.78-99-102.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [11:06] allend (~allend@CPE-58-165-47-90.lns1.lon.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:06] alkos333 (~alkos333@68-30-179-18.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [11:08] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:09] psYcker (~psYcker@201.164.182.209) joined ##slackware. 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[11:16] despiron: upgrade.txt [11:16] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host86-154-105-133.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [11:16] v3gard: I almost did, but decided against it :P [11:16] wow, look at raendeer go, dropping rtfm in a hurry. [11:16] despiron: check one of the 13.0 mirrors and you should be able to find it easily enough [11:16] raendeer: where can i find it? [11:16] eviljames: maybe I get joy in throwing it around! had to be first [11:16] ok google [11:17] just edit /etc/slackware-version and you can be any version you want to [11:17] http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=slackware+upgrade.txt [11:17] i'm running slackware 65.0.0.3 myself [11:17] pft, I have run edition 666 for like 10 years now [11:17] despiron: ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-13.0/UPGRADE.TXT [11:18] Skywise: oh yeah? well my computer has 5 cores after I changed /proc/cpuinfo!!! [11:18] mancha: ACK / SYNC [11:18] er, SYN [11:19] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-36-84.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Quit: Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug. [11:19] is there anyway to tell what domain a synflood was aimed at [11:19] rworkman, we need a whois upgrade or at least a new as delegation data file compiled in [11:20] i'm inclined to think not, because its not a completed tcp/ip negotiation [11:20] the http request would have the domain, but thats never gonna get sent in a synflood [11:20] "new AS delegation" [11:21] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:21] fiyawerx (fiyawerx@c-174-54-122-211.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] raendeer: thank you [11:24] mancha: it's in my pending queue of updates [11:25] misczu (~misczu@chello089077135146.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:25] i think im gonna switch back to xfce soon(ish) [11:25] stu_: were you doing a full install? [11:25] kde is quite good but not for me [11:25] rworkman ok cool. i reported it a few days ago here but didn;'t know if it made it onto anyone's radar. [11:27] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:28] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) left irc: Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number [11:29] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) joined ##slackware. [11:30] mancha: someone mentioned it to me about a week ago. It might have been you, or might not. I don't even recall if I acknowledged whoever it was :/ [11:31] i addressed it to the very personal "slackware devs" :) [11:31] isn't -current [11:31] 's KDM effected by the security issue as well? [11:31] yes [11:31] all versions are [11:31] besides the unreleased 4.4.3 [11:32] mm, ok. [11:32] xsamurai (~fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. 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[11:38] kserv identify s1mps4l4p1m [11:38] w00ps [11:38] uh [11:38] OIC [11:38] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@77.49.50.92.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Quit: the poul......... :) [11:38] anyone know why ESC[1;33mdiff --git a/zshrc b/zshrcESC[m [11:38] is shown rather than the color representation in the shell [11:39] cause you need to actually send the escape sequence yo [11:39] plus bold yellow sucks nuts, innit [11:39] this is from git log -p output [11:39] How do you set networking for VBox Guests? NAT, Bridged, Host-only? [11:40] Heh [11:41] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:41] Dominian (dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number [11:41] i don't have colors in my "git log" command [11:41] Nick change: brokedown_ -> brokedown [11:42] Dominian (dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) joined ##slackware. [11:42] second time around, it [the installer] still gets stuck at the fontconfig, can't I skip it? [11:42] mancha: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/202593/ [11:43] Dominian (dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: Client Quit [11:43] Dominian (dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) joined ##slackware. [11:43] you have to configure it [11:43] what's that paste? [11:43] goes in your .gitconfig for git log -p when showing diffs [11:43] colors the diff output [11:44] ah ok. good to know. lemme try it. [11:44] rather than seeing yellow i get sequence [11:44] Ok.. simple question.. Can a fliesystem defined as an export for NFS be started after NFS, not work until it is present, but work after it is present, without restarting nfs or updating exports with exportfs [11:45] nope nada. i put that paste in ~/.gitconfig [11:45] an african fruit-fliesystem? [11:45] stokachu: using zsh, right? I can't help you, but I do know when I switch to zsh from bash, my prompt starts printing the ascii instead of the colors [11:46] mancha: nope. a fruity filesystem. [11:46] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:46] raendeer: yea same here :( [11:46] mancha: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/202594/ updated gitconfig [11:46] you need [color] ui = auto i think as well [11:46] raendeer: so im hoping this is just zsh related so i can do some more research on it [11:46] stokachu: might be something to point in.. try to figure out how color works in zsh, instead of how to get the git color to work [11:47] stokachu: ask in #zsh [11:47] er, *to point out [11:47] cool thanks everyone [11:47] yes, i also just get ESC's [11:47] Srbo (~Srbo@109.93.127.82) joined ##slackware. [11:47] it is not a zsh issue [11:47] okay, timeto investigate!@## [11:47] Does anybody know how I can contact the people behind the Slackware mirrors in any other way than mail? Because they don't seem to respond. [11:47] As in... the mirror page. [11:47] Zosma: email [11:48] Yes I already mailed... no response though. [11:48] mancha: cool thanks for reproducing [11:48] then wait [11:48] mancha: well, it happens with my bash prompt in zsh as well, so it's not totally the git thing :P [11:48] straterra: I'm waiting half a year now. [11:48] Keep waiting [11:48] Kidding? :-) [11:48] raendeer that's not relevant to this issue [11:49] stokachu let me see what i can figure out on this end, gimme a few... [11:49] mancha: cool take your time [11:49] straterra: it's really normal/standard that it takes more than 6 months? [11:49] With pat? yes [11:50] It says Andreas Liebschner [11:50] Zosma: what did you request? an addition to the mirror list? [11:50] is the mirror administrator. [11:50] d3mn0id_ (~Administr@dsl-247-14-25.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [11:50] sahk0: I maybe wanted to add a mirror yeah and the XS4all NL mirror is dead for years. [11:50] So I suggested they remove it. [11:51] Zosma: not likely to happen. i have asked Pat to update pages in slackware.com in the past. i dont think hes willing to do so at least now. but you never really know unless you get a reply.. [11:51] d3mn0id (~Administr@dsl-247-251-65.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [11:52] if a mirror works for you, use it & let life continue as usual [11:52] sahk0: ok... it's a shame though. I know they are busy people but as you say there are more outdated pages. [11:52] hi guys, can growisofs be also used for burning CDs instead of DVDs? [11:52] well, what can you say.. we are slackers after all :p [11:52] :-P [11:53] I'm the master of procrastination myself so indeed, can't complain too much :-P [11:54] eldragon: did you read the man page? [11:54] why dont you use cdrecord? [11:54] or mkisofs [11:55] sahk0, yes, the man page shows me that it's for DVD only, i've not idea for CD. [11:56] sahk0, because in multisession, growisofs is simpler than cdrecord [11:58] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [11:58] dont know much about either. i only use mkisofs [12:00] SuperPuffy (~puffy@user-160u5ap.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [12:01] Linux is for mentally retarded chimpanzees who ate too many lead paint chips as babies -- a mere cheap rendition (second rate knockoff) of tried and true traditional UNIX. Slackware users are especially retarded since after about 20 or so additional hand-held packages the lack of package management (supposedly a 'feature') is especially mentally retarded. [12:01] OpenBSD blackhole.earthlink.net 4.6 ejeet2#0 i386 [12:01] w00t [12:01] omg the retard is back [12:01] but lead paint tastes so yummy :( [12:02] sahk0 the only retards I see here is everyone using slackware who hasn't figured out it makes no sense to run slackware instead of FreeBSD [12:02] package managers just influence you to update often without any regard to why you are upgrading [12:02] sahk0 so you are the retard here [12:03] stokachu: uhm..Slackware has a package manager [12:03] SuperPuffy: yeah well true hardcore users code their own kernel/os [12:03] As does every distro, minus lfs [12:03] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Bye..... [12:03] straterra yeah for the limited amount of core packages it has [12:03] straterra: im talking in the sense of apt-get upgrade [12:04] straterra try installing something like the program Calibre (ebook management) on slackware by hand (it can be done) and then come back to me after handling all the dependencies etc.. that it isn't 100% mentally retarded waste of tiem [12:04] *time [12:04] SuperPuffy: why would you do it by hand? [12:05] straterra because it has a lot of dependencies or at least it used too. [12:05] gee neverwinter nights is actually free for linux? i didn't know that [12:05] And..why is that an issue? [12:05] E17 has a lot of deps too [12:05] So does GNOME [12:05] Emeau-cat (~Emeau-cat@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Quit: Quitte [12:05] There is an unnofficial script for E17 for slackware that installst it automagically [12:05] Exactly [12:06] I maintain one [12:06] straterra what you fail to understand is that the BSD package management system is a collection of such scripts e.g. shell and perl [12:06] But it just uses slackbuilds and a wrapper script to call them all..why not do the same for whatever software you want? [12:06] straterra slackware is mentally retarded [12:06] Then don't use it [12:06] Of course if you try to install E17 on FreeBSD, you end up with something that's about 2 years old, as I recall. [12:07] d3mn0id_ (~Administr@dsl-247-14-25.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:07] but you won't be retarded :( [12:08] Heh... [12:08] Over two years.. January, 2008. [12:08] also Linux including slackware will never be as secure as OpenBSD for political, marketing and technical reasons. The Goons at DEFCON used OpenBSD with its PF firewall to protect the network -- the most hostile network in the world. Linux is a joke [12:08] Lunix is for losers [12:08] *Linux [12:08] SuperPuffy: Then don't use it [12:08] SuperPuffy: You were trolling better before [12:09] despiron (~despiron@187.64.98.14) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.1.1 [12:09] gartt ohy, yeah why is that ? [12:10] straterra Linux seemed pretty cool in the 1990s before the pinheads arrived [12:10] now linux is totally lame [12:10] acidchild (~ash@septic.ziwall.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:10] sorry, noones biting. try your next channel [12:11] SuperPuffy: Maybe you should go to #opensolaris and talk about how awesome Linux is. [12:11] SuperPuffy: Or perhaps go to #freebsd and extoll the virtues of MacOS [12:11] ##slackware: mode change '+o slackboy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [12:11] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@user-160u5ap.cable.mindspring.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:11] SuperPuffy kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Trolling is for asshats. You are an asshat. Wait, that was redundant. [12:12] stokachu i solved it! [12:12] mancha: how??? [12:12] wtf was wrong with superpuffy [12:13] i traced it to less not allowing my escape codes. [12:13] ohdannyboy (~ohdannybo@c-66-56-9-232.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:13] run this in git, first: git config core.pager "less -FXRS" [12:13] mancha: yay! [12:13] mancha: thank you :D:D [12:14] welcome, and thanks for bringing that up. [12:14] stu_: paint chips :( [12:14] Heh [12:15] ohdannyboy (~ohdannybo@c-66-56-9-232.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:15] sunzu (~sunzu@pD9ED7C8F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:16] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [12:16] Now I have to decide if that was rworkman or Alan_Hicks. [12:16] mancha: have you or anyone else seen this with zsh builtin prompt themes: ò±°phux@black°±²Ûò±° [12:16] NetrixTardis (~leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:17] NetrixTardis (~leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) joined ##slackware. [12:18] phukt (~phukt@71-90-99-202.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:18] tkuhp (~phukt@71-90-99-202.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:19] mamma mia, i have no unicode right now (all i see is gibberish) :) [12:19] same here [12:19] i see it, for once ! [12:19] haha.. apparently rxvt supports at least that much.. I'm used to uff's [12:19] ive set LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 [12:20] whats the point in having a prompt like that? [12:20] sahk0: no point just trying to get it to show up correctly [12:20] raendeer: interesting rxvt-unicode seems to show it better as well [12:20] i not sure it does here either [12:20] when setting LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 [12:21] d3mn0id (~Administr@dsl-247-14-25.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [12:21] stokachu: I just use plain rxvt, not urxvt [12:21] aciar (1000@dhcp-045-221.cns.ohiou.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:22] raendeer: use yakuake, loser. [12:22] ;) [12:22] raendeer: interesting plain rxvt does worse with utf-8 [12:22] it depends on the fonts used and how it combines then [12:22] evilgayes [12:22] woops, evilgays [12:22] quick question: trying to install 2.6.33 kernel but i'm not using lilo. boot is handled by GRUB on my debian partition. running make install is giving me errors about LILO. anyone have pointers in this regard? [12:22] for example, you'll have better luck with Terminal (xfce's temrinal) [12:23] eviljames: yakuake's webpage really does not do much for me :P [12:23] mancha: ah ok makes sense [12:23] aciar: Just ignore them. [12:23] adamk: its refusing to install [12:23] aciar: But, of course, make sure you update the grub menu.lst file. [12:23] jeev: What's crackin jeevster? [12:23] eviljames: I use rxvt for false transparency and the font it has.. urxvt wouldn't give me rxvt's exact font :( [12:23] fontsets are still rather incomplete glyph-wise [12:24] aciar: it should still update the files in /boot, right? [12:24] adamk: yes once i got the new kernel installed i was going to update grub from my debian install [12:24] raendeer: if you used kde4 + yakuake you'd have a much nicer, actually semi-trasnparent terminal [12:24] mancha: in konsole i set the default encoding to UTF-8 all is well [12:24] eviljames: I don't use kde and I want false transparency :P [12:24] mancha: urxvt has some glyphs built-in iirc [12:24] im getting: "Warning: partition 3 on /dev/hda is not marked active" | "Fatal: No images have been defined" [12:25] sahk0, urxvt does something funky, i think you're right, has embedded things [12:25] aciar: Right, but as eviljames asked, it updates the files in /boot, right? [12:25] i don't recall now and it didn't rewgister since i am not a rxvt-unicode user [12:25] raendeer: you have made 2 mistakes then! [12:26] adamk: the only files that appear to have been modified are System.map and vmlinuz.old [12:26] urxvt perl is awesome. im gonna switch back to it when i go with xfce [12:26] eviljames: fluxbox is sexy.. not gonna give it up for kde4. also, I hated what I saw of kde4 :P and I'd rather see my wallpaper, not the window underneath [12:26] aciar: Well, without lilo installed here, 'make install' still copies the kernel to /boot/vmlinuz [12:26] adamk: not showing any imsages for 2.6.33 [12:27] adamk: ahh i see it. it is there [12:27] aciar: now make sure menu.lst points in the right place, and start enjoying your new kernel! :P [12:27] woo thanks [12:28] aciar (1000@dhcp-045-221.cns.ohiou.edu) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:28] if you just made a kernel why'd you not make 2.6.33.2? [12:28] stu_: it always crashes at the fontconfig. [12:29] thieusoai (~tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:29] anyone know how ot globally set the enconding? [12:29] stokachu: /etc/profile.d/lang.sh [12:30] sahk0: awesome thank you [12:30] d3mn0id: damn.. i have no idea then. i just been through it once and reinstalling worked [12:30] and edit lilo.conf 10:append="resume=/dev/sda2 vt.default_utf8=1 quiet" [12:30] and edit lilo.conf 10:append=vt.default_utf8=1" [12:30] argh damn enter! [12:30] and edit lilo.conf append="vt.default_utf8=1" [12:30] ok cool thats altered now [12:31] d3mn0id_ (~Administr@dsl-247-12-151.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [12:32] I have a question. How do you find the e-mail server for test.com ? [12:32] MX field [12:32] man nslookup [12:33] omg awesome, slackbuilds has openTTD, lol [12:33] despiron (~despiron@187.64.98.14) joined ##slackware. [12:33] nslookup is deprecated [12:33] deprecated by whom? [12:33] It also has FreedroidRPG and lots of other fun games. [12:34] d3mn0id (~Administr@dsl-247-14-25.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:34] can someone explain what people mean when they say things like "nslookup is deprecated" ? [12:35] its no longer the canonical method for doing X [12:35] What is the replacement for nslookup then? [12:35] Azeotrope: try host domain.com [12:35] jkwood: i think nethack and ttd will keep me occupied for now [12:35] john_dee (~id@95-29-182-223.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:35] hi [12:36] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:36] What about Dwarf Fortress? [12:36] I believe 'dig' is considered the 'official' replacement for nslookup. [12:36] j0z (~SPH@201.22.35.172) joined ##slackware. [12:36] j0z (~SPH@201.22.35.172) left irc: Changing host [12:36] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [12:36] stokachu (~phuk@cpe-173-095-175-246.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: poof [12:36] "official"? [12:36] stu_: if any game will keep you occupied, it is Dwarf Fortress. Check out the learning curve vs. time spent playing: http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb134/KorJax/Learning_curves.jpg [12:36] hmm.. [12:37] i don't grok this official label, on userland apps [12:37] ISC [12:37] let me halp you, moncha http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/why-nslookup-is-deprecated-122337/ [12:37] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:38] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:39] hah [12:39] a discussion about nslookup deprecated messages from 2003...fast forward to 2010 and ISC bind still ships nslookup [12:40] in another 84 years it might actually be removed... [12:40] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [12:40] _RadioHead (~slack@217.170.244.6) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:41] stu_: Yes, but I didn't help write either of those. ;) [12:42] too much on my mind. i'm thinking of dosboxing xcom now [12:42] d3mn0id_ (~Administr@dsl-247-12-151.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:46] stu_: xcom 1? [12:46] jg71: yea because 2 and 3 sucked [12:46] awesome game, first time i broke a mouse cos of a game. and ack. [12:47] superhigh replayability rate [12:47] yeah. do you know of a gamestat cheater? [12:47] where you can modify values etc? [12:48] yup [12:48] yeah, but i'm a purist. haha [12:48] back in the day we folks wrote our own in good ol' turbo pascal but lost the ... wth. [12:49] pascal reminds me of the gorilla game [12:49] a purist. dont make me tell mancha that you ditched nslookup for the sake of sunshine. [12:50] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [12:50] sunzu (~sunzu@pD9ED7C8F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:52] linXea (~slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:52] linXea (~slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Changing host [12:52] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [12:53] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:54] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8623514.stm [12:56] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:57] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:58] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:59] It's official. I'm done with pacemaker. No more. [12:59] It's out [12:59] screw it [12:59] I dont need it any more than it needs me. [12:59] Drakevr (~drakevr@athedsl-405120.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[13:03] ahh okay thanks I will take a look at this and see where it gets me [13:03] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:03] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:05] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-242-163.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:05] aciar: fwiw, to replace grub with lilo.. just run lilo [13:06] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [13:09] ok [13:09] Action: aciar crosses fingers [13:09] anyone have problems with FF and TB hanging while using scim? [13:09] aciar (~alex@dhcp-045-221.cns.ohiou.edu) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:09] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-242-163.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [13:10] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:10] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:11] xsamurai: sorry.. was that at me? [13:12] Zordrak: yeah no worries [13:12] xsamurai: im replacing it with me. I'm a better failover system than pacemaker is.. I'm just slower. [13:12] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:15] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-246.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:16] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [13:16] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [13:20] has anyone figered out howto modify seamonkey kbd? to add a func? [13:22] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [13:23] linXea (~slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:23] linXea (~slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Changing host [13:23] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [13:24] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-242-163.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. 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[13:31] d3mn0id: Has anyone pointed you to the topic yet? http://slackbook.org http://slackwiki.org [13:31] Not to be rude, but you're going to need to walk before you can run. [13:33] Anyone feel like a friday stumper? [13:33] Zordrak: always. If by stumper you mean 6pack of la fin du monde. [13:33] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:33] My two new fileservers.. if i reboot them, during kernel load they stop dead with "no setup signature found" [13:34] if they are properly power cycled (off/on) it doesnt happen [13:34] Zordrak i dare ya [13:34] pxe loading? [13:34] no [13:34] did ya chk the bios boot order? [13:35] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:35] Zordrak: this on slack ? [13:35] SunTzu: its after lilo.. how could boot order be relevant? [13:35] ok [13:35] xsamurai: yup [13:35] i'd use some read-only sector chker for bad blocks [13:35] Srbo (~Srbo@109.93.127.82) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:36] SunTzu: it happens on both servers and they both have hardware raid1 with WD velociRaptors [13:36] could be ecc prob [13:36] ok [13:36] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:36] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:36] Zordrak: "no setup signature found" - what puts this message? Kernel, specific module? I assume this leads to a panic? [13:36] eviljames: no this is before the kernel has loaded [13:36] argh... stupid scim >.> [13:36] but he mentioned it doesnt happen during a proper power cycle [13:36] Zordrak: So between lilo & kernel? [13:36] i dont think it would be kernel related [13:37] i think it might be lilo/grub related [13:37] only vga= code is between lilo and kernel [13:37] as vga setup code that is external to both [13:37] which bootloader are you using ? [13:37] xsamurai: I'm thinking the same thing. [13:37] SunTzu: I don't think that's how it works. [13:37] xsamurai: lilo loads the kernel.. does its ............ thing while extracting the kernel image and then when it breaks it prints that msg.. when it works it says probing EDID then leads the kernel and starts up the framebuffer [13:37] k [13:38] sorry.. not EDID.. EDD [13:38] i would check if nothing is funky in lilo and reinstall [13:38] it [13:38] Zordrak: you're using lba32 and compact in your lilo.conf right? [13:38] lba32 and large-memory [13:38] no compact [13:39] evil [13:39] jeev [13:41] sourceforge pisses me off [13:42] use fm, its sister-site [13:42] same data. [13:42] dif ui [13:42] yea, it's the mirrors that piss me off too [13:42] should be friendly to command line and shit [13:43] i guess it is, im just lazy and sexy at the same time [13:43] is the guruplug out yet or what man it's almost may [13:43] its cold today , on a friday, why?!!!!, [13:44] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:44] hmmmm [13:44] estranho (~estranho@201.36.223.82) joined ##slackware. [13:44] estranho (~estranho@201.36.223.82) left irc: Changing host [13:44] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [13:45] necos locos [13:45] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [13:46] hello there [13:46] xsamurai Iceland burns [13:46] that's why [13:46] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-242-163.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: No route to host [13:46] heya jeev [13:46] what's happening in japanese town [13:46] Nick change: julm_ -> julm [13:47] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-4-214.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:47] crazy japanese lol [13:47] SunTzu: but its made out of ice, how can it burn ? [13:47] necos, look up rukka rukka ali on youtube lol [13:47] funny ass parodies [13:47] Necos: that's just redundant :) [13:47] xsamurai cmon; figer it out, smart boy :) [13:47] ananke, that was the point :P [13:48] jeev: dont be lazy and provide urls [13:48] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iORpLPmFfHU [13:48] and more.\ [13:48] xsamurai what's the effect of burning ice/snow? what's that gonna do to atmospheric water vapor along with all the ash? [13:48] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/firefox-3-6-and-scim-bridge-confict-784563/ <--- hmmm [13:48] SunTzu, it reflects sunlight ? [13:48] the dust is reflecting sunlight.. if that's why it's cold [13:49] i dont know, feels no diff to me, i'm in LA [13:49] we should skip all the small stuff and just go to nuclear winter :) [13:49] the smog is reflecting sunlight [13:49] :> [13:49] xsamurai NONONO; .eu is getting a mini-iceage this summer!!! and so also is the rest of the world [13:49] you live in burbank / glendale... i hardly call that LA :P [13:49] global warming is over; YAY!!! [13:49] Sushiyant (~samiz@unaffiliated/sushiyant) joined ##slackware. [13:49] la county foo [13:49] lol [13:49] SunTzu: free icecones for everybody ? [13:49] yay [13:50] Action: SunTzu shuffles the bit-dance [13:50] jeev: no bro Glendale doest count as LA [13:50] *doesnt [13:50] even better [13:50] wertik_ (~wertik@89-178-137-247.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:50] separate me from every turd in LA [13:50] too bad RushLim isnt mentioning that affect to the weather yet. [13:50] mohaa (~nome@92.49.74.128) joined ##slackware. [13:51] mohaa (~nome@92.49.74.128) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:51] too bad him and palin dont ride on the same plane and crashes due to the volcano [13:51] or into the volcano [13:52] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-4-214.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:52] be nice [13:52] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [13:52] that's uncalled ofr [13:52] for [13:52] I have slackware 13 and not installed kde can i use this (http://alien.slackbook.org/ktown/4.4.2/x86/kde/) pkgs to install it [13:53] Sushiyant: no [13:53] Sushiyant: that is ONLY for slackware-current [13:53] plane crashes are reserved for people who think out loud and musicians [13:53] If you want KDE4 on slackware 13 you should install it from the slackware DVD [13:53] Zordrak: how i can install kde 4.4 so [13:54] You would need to be running slackware-current [13:54] Sushiyant: Wait for the next release of Slackware [13:54] Yes. Do that. [13:54] Zordrak: when it come [13:54] Sushiyant: When it ready [13:54] wertik_ (~wertik@89-178-137-247.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:55] Zordrak: how month after it come [13:55] Sushiyant: Thats not a sentence. [13:55] haha [13:55] Zordrak: OK , tnx [13:59] Sushiyant: There's not a real schedule for Slackware releases. It's pretty much whenever Pat feels it's ready. Most of us are blindisided by it. [13:59] wtf? [14:00] xsamurai: I'm a musician who thinks out loud :( [14:00] slackpkg upgrade scim fails... [14:00] Action: xsamurai haha remind me to never get on a plane with you [14:00] I am shocked how little i had to do after turning pacemaker off. Just start the shit up.. it works.. job done. [14:00] bleh, nevermind... [14:00] SCREW PACEMAKER!! [14:00] I'm out. [14:01] later Zordrak :P [14:01] slackpkg reinstall scim* worked [14:01] aciar (~Alex@dhcp-044-228.cns.ohiou.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:02] hmmm, why are the scim files in /etc/profile.d not +x? [14:02] what pkg is liblua in? [14:02] lua [14:02] Necos not used by default [14:02] That's a tricky one. [14:03] rhys (~quassel@64.246.117.88) joined ##slackware. [14:03] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:03] huh, an sbo but where's its lib? [14:03] either in /usr/lib or /usr/lib64 [14:04] useless sbo file doesnt name the damned files that it installed [14:04] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: Computer has gone to sleep [14:04] what a wasted inode [14:05] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-218-007.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:05] mornin' slackers [14:06] the sbo for lua is ficked [14:06] The slackbuild I installed is fine. Not sure what your problem is :-) [14:07] no libs are built [14:07] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) joined ##slackware. [14:07] Uhhh... [14:07] Then something went very wrong for youl; [14:08] hardly [14:08] linksh needs those libs (dep) [14:08] This is what I have: http://pastebin.com/ndabxTMh [14:08] Sushiyant (~samiz@unaffiliated/sushiyant) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:09] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [14:10] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:11] well i was able to replace GRUB with LILO but still cant boot. im pretty sure its because i dont have an initrd and dont have ext drivers built into the kernel? [14:11] that'll do it [14:12] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@user-160u5ap.cable.mindspring.com expired. [14:12] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@user-160u5ap.cable.mindspring.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:12] anyway i can generate an initrd without being able to get back into slack? [14:12] install the hugesmp kernel to get yourself started [14:12] or use the dvd [14:12] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:12] i think i still have it in /boot... can i just point lilo to that instead? [14:13] with root=/dev/sda1 or whatever your boot device is [14:13] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-201-107.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. 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[14:18] yea even trying to load vmlinuz-huge-smp is a no go. same error [14:18] VFS: cannot open root device "803" or unknown-block(8,3) [14:18] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.181) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:19] Please append correct "root=: boot option. available partitions: blah blah [14:20] gcc-2.4.2 bitches wrongly about signedness of pointers; when they hell are they signed? [14:20] pls dont answer. [14:20] If its a rhetorical question, why ask it [14:20] btw, that was a rhetorical question [14:21] i know [14:21] lol [14:21] stoopit coders MUST BE FLOGGED!!! [14:21] raendeer (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:22] SunTzu: corporal punishment is not appropriate for poor code... [14:22] SunTzu: a better punshiment, i would think, would be exile [14:23] it's not good enough; i hate stoopit code that I have to try fix and the coders who wrote the crap [14:24] wtf? [14:24] lol nevermind, i didn't log out yet :) [14:26] heaumer_ (~heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:27] raendeer (1000@rrdhcp-66-145.redrover.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:28] ah, now it works... [14:28] but scim still hangs FF [14:30] aciar: not sure if its the same problem, but I had problems upgrading to a newer kernel using a PATA hdd-- the new kernel saw the HD as /dev/sda2, and the old one as /dev/hda2, so when running `lilo` I would get errors [14:31] I had to use a boot disk with a kernel seeing the HD as /dev/sda, chroot to my hd, and run lilo from there [14:32] jewbacca: if that were the case, every FOSS dev would be exiled. Everybody writes bad code now & again. [14:35] this is very wierd... [14:35] now there are serious errors in links source [14:35] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:35] ficking missing struct members [14:36] it's called deprecated code [14:36] ganeshix (~ele@rrcs-184-74-2-215.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:36] i dont care what it's called; the source doesnt compile clean. [14:37] Axius (~hi@109.97.35.34) joined ##slackware. [14:38] ganeshix (~ele@rrcs-184-74-2-215.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:38] anybody had a problem with -current where down cursorkey suddenly sends 'enter' as well, and repeat does not work for cursorkeys - but only in xorg ? [14:38] nix_chix0r (~Hello@97-127-211-139.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [14:38] 1 [14:39] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [14:39] ahh. disabled 'allowemptyinput' and now it's fine [14:41] Axius (~hi@109.97.35.34) left irc: Client Quit [14:43] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [14:44] aciar (Alex@dhcp-044-228.cns.ohiou.edu) left ##slackware. [14:45] so wierd... [14:46] Necos that x11 allowEmptyInput is another floggable bitch. [14:46] i'm talking about my problems with scim :P [14:46] i'm talking about things that dont work. [14:47] mine is a more encompassing thread :) [14:47] get in line [14:47] rhys_ (~quassel@64-246-117-88.bsg75.notacon.org) joined ##slackware. [14:47] jhw_ (~jhw@p4FC8D698.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] rhys (~quassel@64-246-117-88.bsg75.notacon.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:49] SlackNews (moo@apple.chaosorigin.com) joined ##slackware. [14:49] Gulug (old-times@134-100-73-76.ipv4.gulug.com.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:50] Gulug (old-times@134-100-73-76.ipv4.gulug.com.br) joined ##slackware. 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[15:10] jhw_ (~jhw@p4FC8D698.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:12] hahaha [15:12] Nice :P [15:13] d3mn0id: Make sure you check the slackbook, slackwiki, patches/ and extra/ [15:15] d3mn0id: finally passed thru fontconfig? [15:15] stu_: yeah, thank $deity. [15:15] d3mn0id: what was the problem? [15:15] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [15:16] stu_: No idea, but here in SA, I can't afford to get a new install dvd just like that, so I'm glad this one worked. [15:16] o well, i don't know what the problem is too [15:17] raendeer (1000@rrdhcp-66-145.redrover.cornell.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:17] What would you guys say about using pkgsrc on slack? :P [15:17] would be handy to know [15:17] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:17] thieusoai (~tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:18] d3mn0id: I'd say using sbo is a better idea [15:19] eviljames: buut, there are netbsd mirrors here, and not sbo ones... so, 'damn this place!' is probably the conclusion. [15:20] raendeer (1000@rrdhcp-131-188.redrover.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:20] hmm that does make for an interesting conundrum. Perhaps make a South African SlackBuilds mirror! [15:21] d3mn0id: The source codes should be all the same for the various packages, so you can acquire stuff from a netbsd mirror. [15:21] ok. [15:21] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) joined ##slackware. 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[15:43] http://www.google.com/chrome?platform=linux [15:44] qneo (knao@adsl-dyn180.78-99-102.t-com.sk) left ##slackware ("good night"). [15:44] sitwon: and it depends on nss, right? [15:45] blaines (~blaines@wsip-24-248-37-18.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:45] rpm -i --nodeps google-chrome-beta_current_i386.rpm [15:45] sitwon: rpm on slack? [15:45] yea [15:46] you could easily repackage it as .tzx if it bothers you [15:46] lem1 (~root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [15:47] it just unpacks it to /opt/google [15:47] i'm downloading a slackware binary as we type. [15:47] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [15:52] goddamn it [15:53] blaines (~blaines@93.sub-75-242-233.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [15:55] this is just downright annoying [15:56] heya Necos [15:56] tediosu (~foooooo@217.146.88.13) joined ##slackware. [15:56] Necos: we know you're annoying, just put up with you anyway. :P [15:56] Action: fire|bird ducks [15:56] heya fire|bird, i'm going to kill you :) [15:56] lol [15:56] Ok Stewie [15:57] Action: Necos prods gartt [15:57] OldGringo (~amigo@p54B0DB5F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:59] does anyone know what option to pass to the kernel to get a scsi driver working? [15:59] i'm stuck on this :( [16:00] OldGringo (~amigo@p54B0DB5F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:00] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [16:00] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [16:00] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.19.252) joined ##slackware. [16:01] by the way, i'm trying to install sw64 on a laptop... [16:01] oh [16:01] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:02] Slackware 13 install almost painlessly on my Lenovo G550. Glad about that. [16:02] installed* [16:02] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [16:02] fuzzix (~fuzzix@93.107.221.90) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:03] ALways installs flawlessly on my Toshiba Satellite :). [16:03] Even the function keys work with a little app [16:03] hmm... i tried to specify to which device my cdrom was assigned... but sw complains [16:04] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.39.31) joined ##slackware. [16:04] slackware is a system that you need to configure to best fit your hardware [16:04] this is why I love slack :p [16:04] is there an option that i could specify on boot time? [16:05] xMDKx: indeed. [16:05] function keys work well without further config on my lappy. [16:05] blaines (~blaines@93.sub-75-242-233.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:07] d3mn0id: that's good, since I bought a new note (lenovo g550) and will install slack on it when it arrive [16:09] xMDKx: Should be schweet. [16:10] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [16:10] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: Bye [16:10] Action: tediosu sighs [16:11] Action: d3mn0id sighs continuosly. [16:13] Hairyplotter (~robert@d-74-214-36-3.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:14] tediosu: use udev to force your cdrom to a certain device. [16:14] ohhh [16:14] tediosu: I just scrolled up, nvm. [16:16] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:17] Jarath (~Jarath@157.89.57.229) joined ##slackware. [16:17] hello [16:18] nix_chix0r (~Hello@97-127-211-139.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:18] anyone here? [16:18] jarath: Hello :) [16:18] hi [16:19] Is anyone here familiar with awesome wm? 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[16:48] phukt (~phukt@71-90-99-202.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:49] phukt (~phukt@71-90-99-202.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:49] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-178-8.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:53] Baisuoklis (~Baisuokis@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [16:53] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:54] Question: how can i upgrade slack13 stock linux kernel to linux 2.6.33.2? [16:54] Robby's libata switchover how-to does not cover this scenario [16:58] sitwon, my edits must be approved? [16:58] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:00] what scenario? [17:00] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host86-154-105-133.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:01] kernels from kerne.org dont need any switchover. just include all drivers and it will still boot from hda [17:01] kernel.org* [17:01] credo, libata is deprecated... it SHOLD NOT be used anymore [17:01] and that's what the switchover is about [17:02] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-137.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:02] Baisuoklis, just upgrade to -current with slackpkg [17:03] Necos: current breaks too many packages from sbo i use [17:03] at least last time i checked [17:03] about a month ago [17:04] i need 2.6.33.1 or higher kernel version for my webcam support [17:04] so what you do is... [17:04] upgrade to -current, then recompile all your SBo stuff [17:05] that's what sbopkg is for, after all [17:06] huh... thats a lot of stuff to recompile [17:06] Necos: Lots of the software needs to be upgraded to work on -current. [17:06] Most of the Inkscape deps, for example. [17:07] MrJackson (~MrJackson@cpe-24-94-41-123.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug. [17:08] hmmmm, well, upgrading the kernel to the one used in current would be a bad idea without upgrading the rest of the system [17:08] only other choice is to compile it by hand [17:10] jlarrew (~WallRat00@75.133.29.111) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:10] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:11] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:13] GooseYAr1 (~bailey9@topquark.roadkill.com) joined ##slackware. [17:13] arr [17:18] MrJackson (~MrJackson@cpe-24-94-41-123.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:20] JoshAx (~josh@c-69-141-34-70.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:20] v4nelle (~van@79.107.222.195) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:20] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-218-007.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Ephedrax (zeus@vps.process-evolution.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:22] psYcker (~psYcker@201.164.182.209) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [17:22] Ephedrax (zeus@vps.process-evolution.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:23] Hi, stupid question, but in irsii how do you make a new hidden window? [17:23] I have not used it for ages and have forgotten [17:24] JoshAx: /window new hidden [17:24] irssi ftw :) [17:30] interesting [17:31] gartt: I get an error when I type irssi ftw :) (sorry. Sorta.) [17:31] Nick change: darkdevil -> DarkDevil [17:32] You're a better linuxer than me, FriedBob, but mine runs flawlessly [17:32] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:33] gartt: It was actually just a bad attempt at bad humor. [17:33] ads_ (~ads@77-255-109-189.adsl.inetia.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:33] Yeah, it took me time to get [17:39] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [17:39] macius (~macius@bas2-toronto09-1176444522.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:39] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ycggbgsjznpjuxtl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:41] hey how can i control alsa master volume from command line? =S need to map keys cause im getting quite annoyed with having to jump to alsamixer everytime something is way to loud [17:42] sylon (~sylon@unaffiliated/sylon) joined ##slackware. [17:43] sylon (sylon@unaffiliated/sylon) left ##slackware. [17:44] or is there something in kernel .config that will let me control that from keyboard :S i got backlight control via f1 and f2 right when i added a certian module to kernel, havent seen anything for sound out [17:45] macius, that would be a feature of the soundcard, not necessarily of the kernel [17:45] and you can always use amixer to control the sound volume [17:45] ok, I am having an error trying to install abiword from the latest slackbuild [17:45] I don't get any clear error, I have wv installed, but not goffice or gnome-vfs [17:46] so what does the abiword slackbuild say are dependencies? [17:46] just wv [17:49] are you running the slackbuild by hand? [17:49] hmmmm, parted doesn't support resizing ntfs partitions? >.> [17:51] think there is a seperat tool for that, ntfsresize or something like that [17:52] Necos, ty for mentioning amixer :) thats all i really need , and yeah i noticed that a while back :\ is there any other utility that allows ntfs partition resize? , i heard of partition magic but thats about it [17:53] Necos, i keep reading online that if you have your ntfs fs resized your able to shirnk yoru partition via fdisk/cfdisk, yet i cant find a resize feature [17:54] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:55] i would bet that is by dropping partition boundaries and rebuilding the TOC outward [17:55] yes, by hand [17:55] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:55] Necos: I am running it by hand [17:56] ntfsresize, it is... [17:57] so what error are you getting during the build? [17:57] nothing specific [17:58] A whole lot of warnings and things not defined [17:58] the error seems to be with the SugarUnixAccountHandler [17:59] it has to be stopping somewhere... can you pastebin the output? [17:59] Anyone know why rsync fails? I can't backup my server and it's a major problem! "Broken pipe (32)" http://pastie.org/923668 [17:59] n0w0nd3r (~n0w0nd3r@115.113.57.139) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:00] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-218-007.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:01] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-421441.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:01] would the config.log help you? [18:01] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:02] credo (~cherchez@80.233.147.119) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:02] not really... unless it's giving you an error too lol [18:02] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [18:02] stuart_ (~stuart@115.135.22.24) joined ##slackware. [18:02] ok, how do I mix stderr into stdout so I can output to a file? [18:02] 2&>1 > blah? [18:02] try it? [18:02] Hoogin (hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left ##slackware. [18:03] Other way around [18:03] foo &> bar # also works, at least in bash [18:03] im on zsh [18:03] same deal [18:04] ok, outputting now [18:04] brb [18:04] psYcker (~psYcker@201.164.182.209) joined ##slackware. [18:04] Action: NaCl thinks /me will install the Kits on his desktop box [18:05] out of curiosity... if you're new enough that you don't yet know the syntax for redirection, why would you choose to use a different shell from the default (bash)? [18:05] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [18:05] Urchlay: FWIW, zsh's syntax is bash's for most things [18:05] stu_ (~stuart@115.135.22.226) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:06] fuck [18:06] yeah, I know bash borrows features from zsh, and maybe zsh borrows from bash too, so they end up similar but not quite the same [18:06] Yup. [18:06] bash: fuck: command not found [18:06] parted can't resize the ntfs partition [18:06] Necos: ntfsprogs [18:07] Urchlay: If you don't have root's shell set to zsh, then plain 'su' gives you a weird PS1. [18:07] %n@%m:%~%# [18:08] heh, if I log in (my shell is bash), then run zsh, I get a truly weird PS1 due to all the ansi escape sequences I use [18:08] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:08] heh [18:08] in bash: "$ " with the <> in blue, the user name white, the @monolith cyan, the /tmp purple [18:09] hmmmm [18:09] heh [18:09] in zsh: \[\033[0;34m\]<\[\033[0;37m\]\u\[\033[0;36m\]@\h:\[\033[0;35m\]\w\[\033[0;34m\]>\[\033[0;32m\]\[\033[1;32m\]$\[\033[0m\] [18:09] heh [18:09] purty [18:09] if Larry Wall used really foul language, it probably would look something like that [18:09] how colorful [18:10] can you make it blink too? [18:10] i already used ntfsresize to resize it, but it's not showing up in fdisk as resized [18:10] Necos: partition needs to be resized too [18:10] yeah, and every box I use regularly, has a different set of colors. I do that because I found myself typing "sudo halt" or whatever in the wrong terminal, somehow the colors are more effective for telling them apart than just putting the hostname in the prompt [18:11] Necos: use gparted, reduces difficulty [18:11] Skywise: my xterms have blink disabled, I don't let anything blink at me [18:11] Kosty (~john@c-98-219-58-113.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:11] i was using parted, but it says that it can't resize it and qtparted refuses to work (using knoppix) [18:11] Urchlay, i have different backgrounds for the same reason, [18:13] Action: Necos goes to download the gparted live cd [18:14] Necos: did you run defrag/whatever, under windows? (do you still have to do that, with modern parted versions?) [18:14] it just said "parted opening ntfs partitions not supported" [18:15] somebody told me the other day, to resize a ntfs partition on a windows 7 box, he had to disable hibernation and a couple other things (apparently they do weird things to the filesystem that gparted or whatever he used, couldn't handle) [18:16] oh. Er. I dunno then. Compile-time option for parted to enable ntfs, maybe requires ntfsprogs or something as a dep? [18:16] well, i'm just gonna get the gparted livecd and see if that works [18:16] (not real useful info, if you're using a noobuntu live CD I guess) [18:17] newslacker (~kc@75-121-100-111.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [18:19] hugohagogo (~cleber@187.64.59.92) left irc: Quit: Elvis has left the building [18:22] GooseYAr1 (~bailey9@topquark.roadkill.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:22] ohdannyboy (~ohdannybo@c-66-56-9-232.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:38] Nick change: notKlaat1 -> notKlaatu [18:38] notKlaatu (~klaatu@host-69-95-133-232.pit.choiceone.net) left irc: Changing host [18:38] notKlaatu (~klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [18:42] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:43] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:43] Hi, sorry for the delay [18:43] Necos: output is at http://pastebin.com/E9Zr8Y3R [18:45] hugohagogo (~cleber@187.64.59.92) joined ##slackware. [18:47] macius (~macius@bas2-toronto09-1176444522.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:48] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:49] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: œ¿»Î½ »±²­ [18:49] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [18:53] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. 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[19:13] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:13] lol.. I don't have any idea. [19:13] XXX [19:15] man what i wouldnt give for a web browser that didnt suck [19:16] lynx? [19:16] nix_chix0r (~Hello@97-127-211-139.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] reliable but sucks [19:16] i use firefox 2.0 [19:16] hrmm [19:17] at least with chrome I can use my favorite Hello Kitty theme [19:17] M1ck3y, you could check outsome place like vcdquality.com and they have ratings and comments about releases [19:18] on my way [19:18] oh, i would of thought that everything supports hello kitty [19:18] Skywise: lol thanks for the link, it actually looks sweet, but I was just attempting to make a stupid joke.. and failing... [19:19] no, it was good, i played along [19:19] skywise is a joker [19:19] ah... [19:19] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [19:22] well it's happened again [19:25] didn't anyone see it comming? [19:29] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-118-233.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [19:33] ok, I am still having problems using the abiword slackbuild [19:33] I have wv and gtk, and it gives an unspecific error [19:33] output is at http://pastebin.com/E9Zr8Y3R [19:34] nessundorma (~mike@78.134.126.7) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:38] notKlaatu (~klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:38] M1ck3y (~jon@c-68-40-207-181.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [19:40] there's no error in that output [19:40] M1ck3y (~jon@c-68-40-207-181.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:40] hackeron (~hackeron@gentoo/user/hackeron) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:42] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:42] Necos: there must be [19:42] or....I did the stream mixing wrong [19:42] damn [19:45] As I said earlier, the mixing example was reversed. "your_buildcommand 2>&1 | tee output.log" will write everything incl errors to output.log while at the same time showing you that text live on-screen [19:46] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.142) joined ##slackware. [19:46] fhoahf38771 (~Gla@200-55-110-251.dsl.prima.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:46] fhoahf38771 (Gla@200-55-110-251.dsl.prima.net.ar) left ##slackware. [19:50] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:53] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:54] Nick change: DarkDevil -> darkdevil [19:54] alienBOB: thanks , trying again now [19:56] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-118-233.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:57] hugohagogo (~cleber@187.64.59.92) left irc: Quit: Elvis has left the building [19:58] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [19:58] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [20:04] OK, I have pasted just the errors: http://pastebin.com/Hbw5ptYX [20:04] it seems to be a problem with plugins...perhaps I can just disable them? [20:05] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] are you able to? [20:06] I'm not sure how to modify the slackbuild to to that [20:07] is it a matter of editing the script? i.e. can it be done in abiword: not build plugins [20:07] I would think that plugins could be disabled... [20:07] M1ck3y (~jon@c-68-40-207-181.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:08] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [20:08] Looks more like a problem with boost [20:09] what is boost? [20:09] rworkman is the abiword.SlackBuild maintainer, better check with him [20:09] a C++ library thingie [20:09] boost is a library which is part of Slackware [20:10] it provides a so-called reviewd (or peer audited) set of C++ libs [20:10] LnxSlck_ (1000@89.214.165.202) joined ##slackware. [20:11] boost has not always been a part of slackware though [20:11] LnxSlck (LnxSlck@89.214.47.161) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:11] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [20:13] hello happy slackers [20:13] hi [20:13] ang_ (~ang@up-above-it.org) joined ##slackware. [20:13] does anything in slackware actually use openexr? [20:14] a few things do if it exists [20:14] ang_: not in the distro, no...it *may* be a slackbuild [20:14] kde for example, will use exr if present [20:14] v4nelle (~van@79.107.222.195) joined ##slackware. [20:14] which package is boost in? [20:14] hmm. ok. can't get it to build on alpha :) [20:14] boost [20:15] in what directory? I don't see it in d/ or l/ [20:15] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [20:15] boost is in l [20:16] Josh, what slack version are you in? [20:16] slack 64 [20:16] eek, i guess that means v13 right? [20:16] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:16] yup [20:17] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [20:17] mancha: slack64 didn't exist before v13 [20:17] Action: jewbacca facepalms [20:17] Josh, and you're not seeing it in "l" [20:17] mancha knows this [20:17] no, I see it [20:17] but there is also a -current [20:17] I am just getting used to zsh tab completion [20:19] slackware64/l/openexr-1.6.1-x86_64-2.txz [20:21] what is the complaint on alpha? [20:23] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-118-233.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:24] there's a small program that generates a .h file that creates a table [20:24] it craps out with a floating point error [20:24] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [20:25] BP{k}: oh, didn't know that existed [20:25] v4nelle (~van@79.107.222.195) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:25] hrmm, in the test dirs? [20:25] hi, i'm installing luks with lvm.. so i have one partition for root and the other for /boot [20:26] hmm. phonon pkg seems to me bogus too. does that depend on kde4 to build? [20:26] which one should have the bootable flag? [20:26] ang_: I would say that's pretty likely. [20:26] yeah. not too interested in kde right now :) *skip* [20:27] phonon needs qt4, not sure if it needs kde4 [20:27] it built some stuff, but the package had nothing in it [20:28] qt4 has phonon support though [20:28] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:29] well if you tell me what part of openexr maybe i can snoop around [20:29] anyone? [20:31] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:31] rgm12 (~rmolina@201.254.126.6) joined ##slackware. [20:31] MrJackson (~MrJackson@cpe-24-94-41-123.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:31] echelon, sda1 [20:31] also, how long should it take to randomize a 120gb disk using dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdX ? [20:31] mancha: http://pastebin.com/ZtHDXLyd [20:31] about 3 days [20:32] rgm12 (rmolina@201.254.126.6) left ##slackware. [20:32] what? [20:32] mancha: the .h is bogus becuase the program craps ot when creating it :) [20:32] XGizzmo, are you being serious? [20:33] echelon: depends a bit on your system. [20:33] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:33] well the laptop is about 4yrs old now [20:34] 3weeks [20:34] echelon: no but it will take many hours [20:34] v4nelle (~van@79.107.222.195) joined ##slackware. [20:34] ok, thanks [20:34] ang, there is one there in the tarball by default, will it work to merely skip re-geneation? [20:35] MrJackson (~MrJackson@cpe-24-94-41-123.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:35] mancha: i'll have to check that out [20:36] also, you do have the ilm thing right? [20:37] yes, ilmbase i think it is [20:37] http://favorite.mirror.here/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/source/l/ilmbase/ [20:37] that one [20:37] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:39] stuart__ (~stuart@115.135.88.190) joined ##slackware. [20:39] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [20:40] i was thinking about commenting line 705 from the makefile, ymmv [20:41] stuart_ (~stuart@115.135.22.24) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:43] tediosu (foooooo@217.146.88.13) left ##slackware. [20:45] mancha: in openexr or ilmbase? [20:50] openexr [20:50] the target for b44ExpLogTable.h [20:51] I got my slackware bottle opener and T-shirt in today :D [20:51] k. will have to doublecheck that [20:52] diven: I got my slackware tshirt yesterday :D and wore it today [20:52] raela: which one did you get? [20:53] diven: which tshirt? I got the "serious" one a few years ago [20:53] lol [20:53] I got the serious one [20:53] blue color [20:53] diven: white logo on black [20:53] cool [20:53] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [20:53] I will put the bottle opener to use tonight however [20:54] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:56] blaines (~blaines@64-130-243-194.sparkplugbb.net) joined ##slackware. [20:57] JoshAx (~josh@c-69-141-34-70.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:58] ooh, I thnk I need to get the black tshirt too [20:58] Nick change: shonudo -> I_am_not [20:58] I am saving up for the polo shirt myself [20:58] Re that abiword problem from JoshAx, I've just built abiword-2.8.4 on -current and all is fine. I built 2.8.3 on 13.0 a few days ago and it was fine too. [20:58] i miss my blue slack tshirt [20:58] it got ruined [20:59] D: [20:59] gonan buy another very soon =) [20:59] the black shirt is very awesome :) I am quite happy with it [21:00] nix_chix0r (~Hello@97-127-211-139.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:01] raela: yeah. not sure why they didn't have it all along :) i got the serious one b/c there wasn't a "plain" one at the time [21:02] Nick change: I_am_not -> i_am_sometimes [21:02] Nick change: i_am_sometimes -> shonudo [21:02] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [21:02] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:04] i've been working on 'l' for like a week now :) [21:07] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [21:07] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [21:07] hmm [21:08] hiptobecubic: are you a big huey lewis fan? [21:08] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-162-72-24.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [21:08] Has anyone had their x server not start up and print "No protocol specified" repeatedly? [21:08] ang_: It's a good song [21:08] hd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:08] hd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Changing host [21:08] hd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [21:08] hiptobecubic: :) [21:09] pireau (1000@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:09] the error is only happening as my normal user. root doesn't seem to be affected [21:10] pireau (1000@208.92.18.67) joined ##slackware. [21:10] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:10] jd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:12] hiptobecubic: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570764 [21:12] don't think that will help, but sounds the same [21:13] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: pizza and beer consumption accomplished! [21:15] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:17] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [21:18] kskl [21:18] hmmmmm. yes it's all very bizarre [21:18] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:20] artveee (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [21:21] Chrysalis (~UD@unaffiliated/chrysalis) joined ##slackware. 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[21:27] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Client Quit [21:28] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [21:28] Much better :) [21:29] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@unaffiliated/raph0x88) joined ##slackware. [21:29] dchmelik: uhm in RL4 it just starts KDM and kdm then calls whatever WM/DE you tell it to. [21:30] I chose it to run KDE, but I just did 'ps ax' and there is no kdm, X, or KDE software running [21:31] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-118-233.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:32] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-118-233.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [21:32] I have run KDE before on this system, but now it just does not start. [21:32] ohdannyboy (~ohdannybo@c-66-56-9-232.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:32] dchmelik: so in KDM you log in, with your user name and password and it just sits there? [21:33] yes, with a cursor flashing [21:34] anything in the X.org or kdm.log? [21:34] I will see [21:36] the Xorg log says 'caught signal 11. aborting' [21:36] a few minutes ago I started KDE with startx after it was just sitting there [21:37] the kdm log also says caught signal 11, server aborting [21:39] sweet it segfaulted [21:40] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:45] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:51] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [21:51] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:52] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [21:53] apparently I had the wrong video driver... but now it just always goes back to the kdm login screen [21:57] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:58] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-118-233.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:58] still when I use startx, it works. I guess kdm just does not. [21:59] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:01] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:05] LnxSlck_ (1000@89.214.165.202) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:07] ang_ (~ang@up-above-it.org) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:10] dios_mio (mirc@88.241.143.8) joined ##slackware. [22:13] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:16] tsccof (~tsccof@201-15-188-95.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:18] hi everyone [22:18] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [22:18] nix_chix0r (~Hello@97-127-211-139.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [22:28] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [22:33] tsccof (tsccof@201-15-188-95.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left ##slackware. [22:34] v4nelle (~van@79.107.222.195) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:37] Nikolai-Zanovsk (~Nikolai-Z@201009246102.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:39] john_dee (~id@95-29-182-223.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:54] hi [22:54] MrJackson (~MrJackson@cpe-24-94-41-123.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug. [22:57] stuart_ (~stuart@115.135.235.31) joined ##slackware. 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[23:17] s/al/la/ :) [23:17] yup [23:17] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-34.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] heya,slackers [23:18] heya [23:19] heya,Reticenti [23:20] what's the name of that motif-based image editor that slack has? i always forget its name [23:20] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:21] Nick change: SunTzu -> uberDisciple [23:21] trhodes: it's not exactly a general image editor but all I can think of is xfig [23:21] not big on the image editing or the motif, though [23:21] xv? [23:22] slakmagik: that was what I had in mind, thanks [23:22] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:22] okay - lucky strike :) [23:26] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-158-1-24-246.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net [23:26] strangley,was thinking of mtpaint but that would be gtk1 as well as the one for the current gtk [23:27] s/stangley/strangly [23:29] s/strangly/strangely :) [23:30] mancha, thanks [23:34] kodekill (~kodekill@63-248-173-11.static.logl002.digis.net) joined ##slackware. [23:35] Nikolai-Zanovsk (~Nikolai-Z@201009246102.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:39] Nick change: jeagone -> jeagoss [23:40] rgm12 (~rmolina@201.254.126.6) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [23:41] back in 1915 about 1.5 armenians were murdered by the ottoman turks. apparently commemorating this (??) turkish hackers have attacked multiple armenian websites recently [23:43] kiethvez (~IceChat7@97-86-247-125.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:43] WOW lots of people here I need help! [23:43] That's almost 2 Armenians. [23:43] 169 IP.. [23:43] just installed [23:44] eth0 came up.. but not sure what to do now, configed for DHCP [23:46] Would be happy if the 2 armenians could help [23:46] oops. 1.5 million [23:47] kiethvez: Do you mean that you configured Slackware for dhcp, or your network is configured for dhcp? [23:47] both [23:47] lets translate that [23:48] router is setup for dhcp, setup a dhcp reservation and slack is setup for dhcp in rc.inet1.conf [23:48] or can you rather explain it a bitt better? [23:48] getting a 169 ip [23:48] I'm guessing you're not using the 169 subnet? [23:48] this is when there's no real connection [23:49] 169.x.x.x means fail [23:49] ahh nooo.. [23:49] eth0 is UP but 169 I [23:49] ip [23:49] what is eth0, wired? [23:49] well shoot give me something to try here I'm a noob.. [23:49] What happens when you run dhcpcd -d eth0 ? [23:49] yes wired [23:49] Action: jkwood has never had much luck with the rc.inet scripts [23:51] no error just "exiting" [23:51] ok [23:51] killall dhcpcd [23:51] no processes killed [23:52] so it's not running... [23:52] oops [23:52] back to prompt.. it killed it [23:52] I typed dhcpcd wrong haha [23:52] now run it [23:54] specified eth0.. timed out .. err.. then warn using IPC4LL 169 [23:54] ok, so it is not getting joy from the router [23:54] check that the wired connection is good, then make sure the router is not doing anything silly like MAC filtering... [23:54] ha.. apparently [23:55] xdan779 (~daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:55] d3mn0id (~daniel@dsl-247-252-138.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [23:55] kiethvez: This may sound silly, but are you certain that your network cable is plugged into the correct port on the pc? [23:55] I run into that issue with onboard/pci network cards and video cards all the time. [23:56] there is only the one on the motherboard [23:56] kiethvez, also,is there a light indicating connection? [23:56] yes light on router and nic.. [23:56] light on nic is green light on rought is orange though.. [23:56] router [23:56] orange sounds bad. [23:57] no it's not silly at all I really appreciate your help [23:57] mancha: morange. [23:57] it's a TrendNet router [23:57] I know I know but I'm on a budget [23:57] is the cable good? [23:57] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.22.184) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:57] Just bought it, should be, I'll try another quick [23:58] d3mn0id (~daniel@dsl-247-252-138.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Client Quit [23:59] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:59] orange means that the link doesn't run at full speed. [00:00] --- Sat Apr 17 2010