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[00:09] can do xinit /usr/bin/fluxbox or whatever [00:09] Rat4091: says there is no xorg-utils [00:09] mancha: Well, it was factory, then it was having processor/mobo issues so I switched that stuff myself. :) [00:09] i have startx now but i have another issue [00:09] thus having to do the thermal paste, etc. [00:09] brb [00:10] nix_chix0r: The whole time I was working on the laptops, it was storming here and there's another on the way. :) [00:10] it finally cooled down here [00:10] getting ready to rip apart the living rom [00:10] nix_chix0r: It's 73F here. [00:10] where is libXau.so ? [00:10] rip it apart, what are you going to do? [00:11] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:11] in a package by the same name [00:11] i.e. libXau.*(tgz|txz) [00:12] 66 degrees 92% humidity. and i'm going to move the big couch against the bay window in the living room and the love seat next to that and the tv on the other wall with the big clock insetad of by the other window so i can leave it open and get a better breeze system [00:12] nix_chix0r: sounds like fun. :) [00:12] gona vacuum oh boy [00:13] i find it difficult to controll those urges to clean sometimes [00:13] are you ovulating? [00:13] nix_chix0r: as strong as you are now from going to the gym, you can probably lift the couch with one hand and vacuum with the other, right? [00:13] not sure antiwire [00:13] i've had the IUD for 5months now [00:13] women like to clean their nests when they ovulate [00:14] dos games aren't that dissimilar to crack cocaine [00:14] fire|bird, robot woman [00:14] 7 hours... gone... gone... [00:15] my cats are running through the house like crazy clucking at each other [00:15] full moon is gone [00:15] nix_chix0r: Ah yes, it's robot woman, cleans entire houses in a single hour, yes, it's robot woman. :) [00:16] throwing a roast in the crock pot so he has a nice dinner when he comes home tomorrow from his dads [00:16] your cats cluck? Do they have an identity crisis? [00:16] cat lady! [00:16] Action: yesyes misses my cats [00:17] passes out [00:17] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] archiebenedict (n=archie@adsl-69-224-95-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:28] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:33] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:39] finally cooled upstairs here corner room bad air flow [00:39] maddslacker (n=corey@c-71-196-190-154.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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Quiznos i do [00:57] spend some money to get a good one with better CFM; non-household fans specify; Walmart has em. [00:57] yuh [00:57] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:58] the big garden stores too [00:58] noted [00:58] if you're in america, of course. [00:58] Chapinha (i=0@201.53.196.77) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:58] YMMV elsewhere [00:58] yuh northeast us [00:58] where bout? [00:58] i keep forgetting [00:59] maine [00:59] same as cpunches iirc [00:59] hehehe [00:59] poor you [00:59] nice; herd there was some ruskus by "rebels" at a meeting in the last few days :) [01:00] rukus [01:03] phillipsm (n=IceChat7@173-20-30-158.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [01:04] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[02:22] you're over watering him [02:22] he's drowning [02:23] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:24] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [02:24] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) joined ##slackware. [02:28] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [02:29] antiwire: hes really not. we have a watering schedule, once every 3 days [02:30] antiwire: maybe you should look at your pants? [02:31] i'm naked [02:32] well if they are on the floor you should look at them [02:32] what, you are skinny hacking? [02:32] i saw this photo on the 'net with a couple naked hackers in front of a computer and it said 'no skinny hacking' [02:35] lol [02:35] dc!!! [02:35] ltns! [02:35] lol [02:35] hours [02:35] yes. [02:36] this is Quiznos' girlfriend http://www.geekologie.com/2009/03/16/fashion%20robot.jpg [02:36] the one in foreground [02:36] oh oh [02:37] is she wearing a sammich board? [02:37] andrew_50 (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew50/x-1857826) joined ##slackware. [02:37] is there a slackware package for wodim or some equivalent? i only have a minimal system installed and i need to burn a cd [02:37] ap/cdrtools [02:38] cdrtools? [02:38] k [02:38] the original [02:38] i can just say here is an iso now go burn it and leave me alone right? [02:38] There might still be a cdrkit build on slackbuilds.org... [02:38] cdrtools is the original. I think the licensing was mostly cleaned up. [02:38] not really [02:38] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:39] cdrecord => wodim [02:39] mkisofs is still licensed under GPL2 & CDDL IIRC [02:39] sahko, except for the kernel bits, I think everything got put under a compatible license. [02:39] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:39] If it's dual GPL2/CDDL, that's not a big issue. cdrtools just uses CDDL [02:39] If it's mixed, there's a problem. [02:40] andrew_50 (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew50/x-1857826) left ##slackware ("SWMBO calls."). [02:40] i think thats the sole reason cdrkit exists and cdrtools is not accepted in debian [02:40] sahko, indeed [02:40] docgnome read google's "wodim+tgz" first for comments regarding [02:40] I was there at the start. [02:41] I made a slackbuild for cdrkit. [02:41] yeah, all i need is a tool to burn a cd heh [02:41] docgnome, cdrtools on Slackware should work fine. [02:41] uh [02:41] docgnome wodim.org [02:41] slackpkg says there isn't a cdrtools package [02:41] nm that url [02:42] Running 12.2? [02:42] its cdrkit.org [02:42] yeah [02:42] ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2/slackware/ap/cdrtools-2.01.01a53-i486-1.tgz [02:42] just found it nevermind [02:42] typo [02:42] late here [02:42] blurry eyes [02:42] heh [02:42] "Welcome. cdrkit, http://cdrkit.org | svn://svn.debian.org/debburn | Current: 1.1.9 | Terminology: {cdrkit,wodim,genisoimage,icedax} | Want to commit directly? Prove you can, talk to Ganneff" [02:43] ugh [02:44] this is why i like wodim. point it at the iso and it goes heh [02:44] "Warning: do not use Debian binaries/sources as they include many Debian specific bugs and still do not run correctly on Linux-2.6" [02:44] "The Debian fork is based on an extremely outdated version of cdrtools. [02:44] The Debian fork of cdecord did rip off DVD support for no reason and [02:44] the mkisofs version distributed by Debian misses find(1) support, correct file meta data support [02:44] Channel flood from Motoko-chan -- kicking [02:44] and the UDF enhancements as well as useful UTF-8 support is missing. " [02:44] Motoko-chan kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [02:45] wth is *.lzm extension? [02:45] lzma iirc [02:45] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:45] docgnome trying to find package, dont leave. [02:45] ok [02:45] Action: Motoko-chan smacks slackboy [02:45] i have cdrkit 1.1.9.lsm [02:45] lzm [02:45] want it? [02:45] dcc? [02:45] 942Kb [02:46] docgnome ? [02:46] ah, no tanks [02:46] k [02:46] think i just figured out what i need [02:46] thanks though [02:46] then why are you here? [02:46] ok yw [02:48] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:48] whoops [02:48] pupiteee (n=p@212.200.212.67) joined ##slackware. [02:48] hi [02:49] hi [02:49] yo [02:49] pulled out the laptop adapter when i moved the couch [02:50] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC31701.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:50] or maybe i dont [02:51] crap [02:51] ah [02:51] there we go. had the wrong device [03:00] wee, pidgin using 1.4 gigs of ram on vista 64 [03:00] :-O [03:01] O.O [03:01] irChat_user (n=irChat_u@196-209-170-152-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [03:01] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [03:01] irChat_user kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Everybody is fed up with you troll [03:01] ugh. this cd burn keeps failing. with an error of "no error" [03:02] that is an informative error message [03:02] no kidding [03:02] cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error [03:05] jeev wow [03:05] grazymax (n=grazymax@host67-156-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:06] docgnome run cdr cmd with `&& echo $?' to be sure there is error [03:06] it stops burnning [03:06] so yeah there is an error [03:06] k [03:07] I used to get that a lot when I was using low quality discs [03:08] memorex disks [03:08] should be ok [03:10] is there a cli tool thaltll add a wm to a list that is callable and choosable? [03:10] that's not what I meant by 'low quality' .. quality of the dye.. ie: AZO/Superior AZO/etc [03:10] pupiteee (n=p@212.200.212.67) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:11] oh [03:13] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [03:13] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [03:14] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [03:16] Mithenks (n=eymerich@host48-156-dynamic.53-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:17] Quiznos, Add it to xwmconfig [03:19] hi [03:19] you need a xinitrc.$wmname in /etc/X11/xinit/ for that [03:19] That's easy [03:24] my living room is almost complete haha [03:24] v4nelle (n=van@78-57-177.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:27] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [03:28] argh now even the usbimg2disk.sh doesnt produce a working stick [03:34] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.77.229) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:36] eelriver ty [03:37] eelriver why cant a blooding doinst do it? [03:37] bloody [03:38] ok sahko [03:38] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-183-177.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [03:39] ls [03:39] damn it [03:39] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:40] morning [03:40] hi [03:40] anyone up for beta testing a service management script I'm working on? [03:41] how? [03:41] http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/bash/chkservice [03:41] I just realized that I had been packaging svn versions of software...with svn crap [03:41] damn me and my big fat fingers [03:41] svn export is the winnar [03:41] then what? [03:42] got script; now what? [03:42] download, run, test to destruction, give feedback [03:42] ok [03:42] are you sure of the ".../d" path? [03:43] ? [03:43] get_services() [03:43] /etc/rc.d ? [03:43] whats it looking fer? [03:43] nop [03:43] rc.* scripts [03:43] i have no d file in rc.d [03:43] d?? [03:43] wait [03:43] yea [03:44] Action: Quiznos diddles [03:44] umm [03:44] dive: that's pretty cool [03:44] you mean the 'sed' comands? [03:44] lol [03:44] it's sed...not a directory [03:44] nop [03:44] oh yea [03:44] sed [03:44] ok i misread; tyvm. [03:44] thats to exclude certain things that we don't want, like .conf files etc [03:44] instilling [03:45] to speed it up try 'LC_ALL=en_US ./chkconfig' [03:45] er [03:45] crap [03:45] to speed it up try 'LC_ALL=en_US ./chkservice' [03:45] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [03:46] antiwire, I kind of got the idea from Red Hat's chkconfig and the pkgtool service menu [03:46] dive neato; but i've seen dialog scripts that switch to numeric keys after alphas are used up. can do? [03:47] you mean keyboard shortcuts? [03:47] dive send this to pat [03:47] yea [03:47] no idea. [03:48] inet2 doesnt have a text string in Services [03:48] nope [03:48] sysvinit neither [03:48] and local [03:49] that's because they don't support start|stop etc [03:49] very neat; instant hit! [03:49] so for local, start/restart would just run script; stop would be void. [03:49] try the network services [03:49] ok; see that [03:49] there is no start|stop|restart with local [03:50] but your script would know what to do [03:50] it just gets run/sourced as is from rc.M (i think) [03:50] k [03:50] seriously off to Pat with ya!!! [03:51] Quiznos, no it only does what it finds the script supports. If you try to run a script with no start|stop it will give a warning box and ask whether to just run it as is. [03:51] elge (n=elge@mx.nethence.com) left ##slackware. [03:51] ok then you're done. :) [03:51] verygood [03:51] you on wifi at the moment? [03:51] nop, cabl [03:51] ok [03:53] in service_control() [03:53] line after #no usage [03:53] she wears short shorts i wear tshirts [03:53] why not egrep -q for the text? [03:53] egrep -i (a|b|c|...) [03:53] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:54] yes possibly [03:54] k [03:54] you're only testing for a static filename substring there so... [03:55] or you could do a ./configure style opt parsing there [03:56] also, how about using usr/bin/logger to put important info into syslog? [03:57] like, what changes were made by whom [03:57] well, strike 'by whom' [03:59] too late Quiznos. [03:59] can't strike what's happened [03:59] or else we'd forgive bush [04:00] oops, that age has passed. not back-porting of alledged errors. [04:00] not/no/ [04:00] apply to current age? [04:00] (default YES answer only; no "NO") [04:00] heh [04:01] nope [04:01] what are you talking about [04:01] are you cracked out again [04:01] fail [04:01] nah [04:01] age as in adminstration [04:01] alicephilippa (n=alice@host86-150-143-251.range86-150.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [04:02] you're on crack [04:02] nop [04:03] compmstr (n=corey@adsl-074-185-008-197.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [04:06] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [04:10] holy [04:10] the 2 local crackheads, jeev and Quiznos are battling it to the death? [04:12] eviljames, dont make me come to canada and cost the taxpayers monies [04:12] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [04:12] you can't be that unhealthy dude [04:12] no [04:12] i'd kick your ass [04:12] we spend less than $2gs per person - its cheaper here [04:12] hah good luck [04:12] i remember when my dad said that [04:13] poor bastard [04:13] o [04:13] i'll kick your dads ass too [04:13] hahahahahahaha [04:13] morning ppl [04:13] you are welcome to try. then you'll see what the canadian healthcare system is really like [04:13] me+my dad = a death panel [04:13] lol [04:14] eviljames, my fart = worse than getting into the ring with tyson [04:14] we have lots of skunks in my neighborhood [04:14] skunks run away from me. [04:14] actually my neighbour's cats like to attack the skunks. [04:14] shitrats running through the alleys [04:15] canada sucks, you know why? cause it's close to sarah palin [04:15] hahah [04:15] touche [04:16] do your peoples make fun of her? [04:16] didn't you see the prank call of sarah palin and nikolas sarkozy? [04:16] i dont know how i can see a prank call [04:16] but i'll listen to it tomorrow [04:17] yeah, that was some Canadians that got her cell # and claimed to be nik sarkozy [04:17] then asked her about her porno career. [04:17] oh i think i heard it [04:17] lol [04:17] :) [04:17] she's a dumb bitch [04:17] that's how canada rolls. [04:17] if the republicans want to run america, do it.. just dont involve that dumb whore [04:17] i disagree. [04:18] i'm all for equal opportunity governance [04:18] I hope the republicans run her in 2012 and 2016 and 2020 [04:18] just dont bring a special ed person [04:18] because it will ensure a democrat majority for 2 decades [04:18] into power [04:18] she's so stupid but americans relate to it [04:18] that's why there are idiots getting up at town hall meetings screaming [04:18] no, only 1/3 of america relates to that, AT BEST [04:18] with access to something to read, they come up with weird ass things like death panels [04:18] America = smarter than we give it credit for [04:18] eviljames, negative [04:18] we have our moments James [04:18] ty [04:19] america is a lot dumber than they get credited for [04:19] Quiznos: you guys had the good sense to court Einstein [04:19] or however i should say it [04:19] we have our moments Jeevs; ty [04:19] where were all the town halls while bush was wanting to invade iraq [04:19] it was just protests [04:19] evil not me; i've learned that he was a plageriser [04:19] if only IBD hadn't gone off about how Hawking would be dead under NHS [04:20] jeev: where were they when they instituted a policy of torturing to gain false evidence against iraq? [04:20] where were americans [04:20] protestors shmotestors, Canada isn't in iraq [04:20] too busy into "supporting troops" [04:20] god that was such bullshit [04:20] i dont support anyone who goes to kill [04:21] i dont care who they are [04:21] at least canadian wine wasn't poured into various rivers over that [04:21] Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious -Oscar Wilde [04:21] just french wine [04:21] stupid frogs [04:21] http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.asp [04:21] that's what happened to american faggots [04:21] where's camarade_tux or fredoslack [04:21] comrad is in a KGB meeting [04:21] hey the faggots are just fine. gays aren't in iraq [04:21] American faggots? [04:22] antiwire: maybe he meant bundles of kindling [04:22] my redneck roots are coming back to haunt perhaps [04:22] eviljames, what is that vagine saying? i have him on ignore.. i have everyone who lies on ignore [04:22] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcEiR01QK7o [04:22] HYSTERICAL [04:23] I can't believe the ops of this channel let this go down time after time. [04:23] antiwire: i should've been banned long ago, eh? [04:23] eviljames, by banned you mean touched.. sexually ? [04:23] lol [04:23] jeev: check that vid. [04:24] the endless bigotry of jeev [04:24] i will listen to it tomorrow [04:24] i heard it before i tink [04:25] eviljames, you know what i noticed [04:25] most funny thing, imho, when they're talking about going hunting [04:25] it's the poor rednecks who complain about health care stuff [04:25] antiwire let what? [04:25] but vote for war [04:25] they say: "as long as we don't bring vp cheney" [04:25] they dont want to "pay more taxes" [04:25] palin replies: "don't worry I'll be a careful shot." [04:25] even though they dont make any money [04:27] and they're so interested in not socializing medicine [04:27] but they're ok with bailing out banks and shit [04:27] if ya wanna read an insane man's words, ##Politics [04:27] who in turn still aren't lending to cnosumers [04:27] Quiznos's, how bout you cancel your franchise and close down your nasty stores!! [04:27] jeev: socializing medicine would cost 1/35th of bailing out banks. [04:27] come on. get off it already; it's just a nick; stop projecting your problems onto me. [04:28] jeev: if they have money to build bombs to kill people, perhaps they have money to heal people? [04:28] i love you too Quiznoski [04:28] eviljames wrongo; 1/6th of the economy. [04:28] eviljames but it's america!!!!!!!! [04:28] srecko (n=srecko@78-1-158-203.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [04:28] america has to blow shit up [04:28] wrongo [04:28] *shrug* sounds like misplace priorities to me. [04:28] it's in their nature, they've done it since coming to the continent [04:28] they've killed people since day one and profitted off people since day two [04:28] the UNITED STATES GOVT does that; not america. two different entities [04:28] whatever [04:29] hehm, he said tities [04:29] it's a fundamental error [04:29] srecko (n=srecko@78-1-158-203.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [04:29] america is her people; we the people dont do that. [04:29] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.22.93) joined ##slackware. [04:29] sure the hell you people do [04:29] it's the same argument i place against republicans [04:29] the federal govt, a private corporation of te UN and IMF does that. [04:29] it's the people who go blow shit up, kill people, make people sick, charge people, rip people off [04:29] granted it's the people doing it; they are programmed that way. [04:29] if you want to be perceived as something other than religio-fascist lunatics, shed those people from your party. [04:29] otherwise: republicans = religio-fascist lunatics. [04:30] Quiznos's, if it was up to americans to pick a distro, they'd fucking pick GAYHAT or centos [04:30] do you want that? thought so [04:30] uhh, slackware is based in MN, USA [04:30] USA USA USA!! [04:30] they'd run around saying that, slackware's package manager sucks and old OS's would die [04:30] and slackware wont boot up [04:30] jeev w.e. [04:30] ok i'm done [04:30] gn [04:30] they'd say all this shit... and go with fedora then get hacked the next day! [04:31] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [04:31] like bush ;D [04:31] night Quiznos [04:31] we can all get hacked today. null ptr deref [04:31] r00t in 1 easy shellcode [04:31] illuz1oN: confirm it for me... [04:31] lol [04:31] he knows, that guy follows milw0rm [04:31] eviljames, what else is funny is [04:32] we're running out of privacy [04:32] i red that comcast or some cable company was testing putting camera's into digital cable tv boxes [04:32] read [04:32] srory [04:32] and with all this gps shit, american's are like.. blahbababh, you shouldn't be worried if you're not doing anything illegal [04:32] i think i said this earlier today but [04:33] people are stupid [04:33] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [04:33] Hello! [04:33] You read a known hoax and swallowed it. [04:34] even if it wasn't a hoax, that's a private corporation.. if you dont want to use the devices with cameras then dont use that company's products.. [04:34] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypCdGNe3Bvs from about 1:00 to 2:00 of this song drives me crazy [04:34] it's SO FSCKING GOOD [04:34] quasar, what if all companies start to do it [04:34] what do you do with your tv? [04:34] stop watching? use a slingbox ? [04:34] turn it into a microwave [04:34] where does it fucking end [04:34] heeeeeelllbent.. on heaaaavan [04:35] who says I have a right to tv? [04:35] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "leaving" [04:35] quasar, are you one of those dipshit town hall protesters? [04:35] do you not care for privacy? [04:35] i think sick people have a right to medicine [04:35] TV is 99% crap anyway [04:35] what do you think of that? [04:35] dive, not discovery channel [04:37] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xpHFfGjaWc [04:37] watch [04:37] gegard mousasi = armenian born in iran [04:37] There was a good discussion about this on radio last night. Someone who had been raped vs someone who's son had been charged wrongly but had his dna sample taken anyway. So privacy is what exactly? [04:38] eviljames: I tested that local root issue and it works [04:38] Who's side are you going to come down on? [04:38] huh [04:38] so just cause of a rape [04:38] you want to fuck with everyone's privacy ? [04:39] It it saves a life or avoids rape and child molestation, yeah. [04:40] You can still have privacy. [04:40] is anyone familiar with connecting usb drives? [04:41] dive, you can't have privacy when the tv is watching you [04:42] plugging it in pops up a dialog but cant access the drive, needs to be mounted? thought hal made that easier some how [04:42] jeev, the whole mass media marketing is watching us. [04:42] govenment too. [04:42] TV is just one branch. [04:43] I don't watch it and if I do I try to pick carefully. [04:43] jhaving your cable company give you a box [04:43] and watching you is a serious issue [04:43] Even documentaries can be biased [04:44] So don't get cable. Stick to the airwaves. [04:44] Listen to radio and watch stuff on Youtube or iPlayer. [04:44] Read books. [04:45] TV is aimed at making money. The TV companies need revenue from adverts, or use a license system to pay for programming, or perhaps both. [04:46] stop telling me what to do [04:46] lol [04:46] i dont sit there and watch fucking VH1 [04:46] and MTV [04:46] i watch the history channel, travel, discovery [04:46] i dont watch anything other [04:46] i dont care what they think of me, i dont care if the cable company records what i watch [04:46] they shouldn't be seeing you, infrared or not [04:46] male or female [04:46] It can still be biased: history books are written by the victors. [04:48] Documentaries don't always show all sides of a situation... [04:48] Hidden agenda. [04:49] i can mount the drive and access it but still cant get that dialog to do it [04:50] gh, it should be. Check that you are in plugdev group. [04:50] no, I am not [04:50] well you need to be. [04:51] Then you will need /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus reload. Log out of X, out of console, log back in, startx. [04:52] thank you [04:52] bhanson (i=bhanson@isafailure.com) joined ##slackware. [04:53] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: "Leaving" [04:54] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [04:54] dive, i dont care. i dont form an opinion from anything i see on tv [04:55] good night [04:55] night [04:55] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:56] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [04:56] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [04:57] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [04:58] dive thank you that worked [04:58] you're welcome [04:58] so my living room is pretty much set up now, as much as i want to hook all the computers back up i'm beat [04:58] nix_chix0r, have a rest and a nice cup of tea [04:59] I will join you. Been up most of night coding ;-) [04:59] the living room is wide open now instead of a barrier to the office area [04:59] big play space for the kiddo [05:00] nice [05:00] and no more people showing up and seeing me with out pants on from the kitchen window cause i moved the couches [05:00] damn unexpected bitches [05:00] i'll have a chance to throw em on [05:01] that's one of the strange things about england - net curtain land it ought to be called [05:01] http://pastebin.com/m77cbee3a [05:01] oh lawd [05:01] IceW (n=sartori@189-46-153-21.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:02] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za expired. [05:02] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [05:02] antiwire, wtf a shell script? [05:02] the shell script is a wrapper for the c code [05:02] ah [05:02] oh, i could only find the code that uses pulseaudio and doesn't work in slack [05:03] is there a more neutral exploit i can test? [05:03] antiwire, now make a sql injection and we can home ;-) [05:03] dive: lol [05:05] cmair (n=cmair@host56-111-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:06] dive: I bet it will be in metasploit's svn soon [05:06] rignes_ (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. [05:07] wouldn't surprise me [05:07] it would be a good root grabbing payload [05:07] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@87.76.94.120) joined ##slackware. [05:09] shik4nt414 (n=shik4nt4@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [05:10] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.74.34) joined ##slackware. [05:10] morning [05:11] BP{k}, morning [05:11] burble [05:13] BP{k}, been working on a chkconfig type script [05:13] if you want something to test: http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/bash/chkservice please download, run, test to destruction, give feedback and bug reports. [05:14] dive: purpose of said bashscript? [05:14] service management [05:14] morning BP{k} [05:16] pprkut: morning. [05:18] dive: first comments so far. interface designed look okay: Personally I would make the "autostart" "not auto started" just a colum named "autostart" and have Enabled || Disabled as keywords [05:18] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:18] ok [05:18] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:21] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:24] NqqmNet (n=bambam@87.120.157.27) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:27] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [05:30] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@ambassador.visitors.har2009.net) joined ##slackware. [05:30] snorks (n=stig@cpc2-tref4-2-0-cust399.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:35] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:37] BP{k}: anyone using vonage here? [05:37] err .. not just BP{k} [05:37] sorry [05:37] chris2 (n=chris@p5B16A68D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [05:39] NqqmNet (n=bambam@87.120.157.27) joined ##slackware. [05:46] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [05:49] harmattan (n=harmatta@82.159.57.59.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [05:50] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [05:51] Guest91691 (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [05:53] Nick change: Guest91691 -> CmdLnKid [05:59] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) left irc: "changing servers" [06:03] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [06:04] BP{k}, I've made a few changes and reuploaded. One question though: do you think I should put a few clues like 'edit settings using spacebar and press OK', or is it fairly obvious what to do? [06:05] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) joined ##slackware. [06:05] anyone whos familier with those dialogs (ie: installing slackware) should know imo [06:05] right [06:06] perhaps I could make the help/info page a bit more detailed for those that don't [06:08] I quite like working with dialog. Maybe have a go at some more scripts using it. [06:08] tomekh (n=user@ebl170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "leaving" [06:09] kleanchap_ (n=chatzill@p5DC31337.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [06:10] I thought about using them for my youtube2mp3 script .. just wasnt' sure how to go about using a progress bar with wget running in background [06:11] quasar, yeah it's strange how they work: ( command; command2; echo blabla; ) | dialog ... [06:11] quasar, but you could use --tailbox and run wget in that perhaps? Or does it mess screen up? [06:12] didn't even try that lol [06:13] harmattan (n=harmatta@82.159.57.59.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:13] I think it woul only work if you redirect wget output to a file, so not sure if it would work. [06:14] repsol_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [06:15] I'll look into it a bit more once I get KDE 4.3 up and running.. just finished koffice [06:16] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:16] Nick change: repsol_ -> adrenaline [06:16] quasar: why slapt-get --upgrade is not working on slackware 12.2 [06:17] Action: quasar shrugs [06:17] because slapt-get is gay [06:17] exactly [06:17] bnhashmi: use sbopkg [06:17] because slapt get is horrible and will break your system [06:18] guasar: i want to install from gnomeslackbuild [06:19] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: "Leaving" [06:19] compile ususing their slqckvbuild scripts [06:19] you mean you "want to install [NO FROM] gnomeslackbuild" and also wtf does that have to do with slapt-get? [06:19] urg iphonr key oar [06:20] dtanner: the download/install page says to use slapt-get for alsa-lib cairo glib2 gtk+2 libwnck pango poppler bluez .. that's my guess on why he's asking about it [06:20] because in howto they mention slapt-get and those command are not working [06:20] no wonder people are migrating to gware =) [06:20] so what is the alternative techies [06:20] anything reccomnding slapt-get is kinda scary [06:20] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:20] Action: quasar agrees [06:21] quasar: http://gware.org [06:21] bnhashmi: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=gnome&sv=12.2 <-- my recomendation [06:21] chris2 (n=chris@p5B16A68D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:21] oh sorry quasar , you aren [06:21] i meant that for bnhashmi [06:22] i have to upgrade these pkg are reinstall [06:22] bnhashmi: are you running 12.2? [06:22] dtanner:yes [06:22] then just install gware. it is ready to go. [06:23] dtanner:thanks [06:24] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC31701.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [06:25] dtanner: i want to use virtulization which tool is da best for slackware if i am using is as a guest are host? [06:26] i use vbox for virtual machines personally. [06:26] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:26] but its not going for full screen [06:26] harmattan (n=harmatta@82.159.57.59.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [06:27] i am sure it will. i can't remember. [06:27] it shows guest in small windows so i use vmware [06:27] harmattan (n=harmatta@82.159.57.59.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Client Quit [06:27] well then use what you like [06:28] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." 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[08:25] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [08:26] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:28] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) joined ##slackware. [08:30] Bart_S (n=Shan@83.119.172.124) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:34] Nick change: superbaloo -> Superbaloo [08:34] tie your shoes: http://www.maildumper.com/how-to-tie-your-shoe-laces.html [08:37] samuelig (n=samuelig@52.pool85-57-143.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:37] gnubian, thats cool, i have some PF Flyers hightops with long laces i am going to use that to tweak the lace scheme :D [08:38] Pig_Pen: yea, some cool ideas there [08:38] flame_me (n=flame_me@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [08:38] Pig_Pen, PF=pink floyd ? [08:38] what happened to the dvd .iso of slackware64-current on slackware.no? [08:39] neeevermind [08:39] lol, i wish, PF Flyer is one of the oldest brands of sneakers around [08:41] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:42] Pig_Pen: it will take you a long while to lace your shoes using some of those examples :) [08:42] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:43] i bet i can do it in just a few minutes [08:44] Action: gnubien starts the timer [08:44] i have not decided which one to use yet [08:46] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:46] Pig_Pen: pf flyers go way back to early 1950's [08:46] since 1937 [08:47] i think only Converse is older [08:47] i have a pair of each, but my Converse are worn out more so i just use them for yard work (stained green from pushing the lawnmower) [08:48] yea, classic shoe design is still popular [08:49] holy shit i just realized how big of a noob i am [08:50] apparently debian is pronounced 'deb' and 'ian' not 'dee-bee-an' [08:50] and in other news... who needs to pronounce debian correctly when you can just say ubuntu [08:53] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [08:54] chris2 (n=chris@p5B16A68D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [08:54] who needs to say either of them when you can slack off and do something else? :) [08:55] truth [08:55] deadian ;) [08:56] i installed a ubuntu-based distro on top of slackware on my netbook :'( [08:58] why would you ever admit that? I'd rather admit to being hacked by setting my root password to "sex" and making ssh insecure O.O [08:58] I GOTS HAKED AND THEY INSTALLED UBUNTU! [09:00] lol because i wanted to try out this distro [09:01] giuppy (n=giuppy@host240-174-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:04] when 13 comes out. i will leave the dark side [09:04] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72422.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:05] greetings [09:05] anyone here running xen on top of slackware ? [09:05] hello slacky [09:05] i've been waiting for you all day [09:05] hey dakarn [09:05] uh, why? [09:06] sweetie, you know [09:06] ? [09:07] shah16 (n=shah@121.246.152.157) joined ##slackware. [09:08] lol [09:09] get the video camera, this looks like an opputurnity [09:09] Nick change: James__ -> James____ [09:09] Action: slackytude sighs [09:10] you know its a slow day when my apperance somehow demands a video camera [09:10] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-193-131.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [09:10] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:11] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [09:12] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:13] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:14] right [09:17] guys [09:17] i dreamt about irc [09:17] i dreamt out irssi's configs [09:17] i... i... [09:17] thats a clear sign you spent too much time on irc [09:18] or being just over dramatic. [09:21] pretty average occurrance in your life too, bp? ;) [09:21] i once dreamt about a hard disk failing [09:22] that was actually my subconscious, paying close attention, as it did fail the next day. [09:22] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:22] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [09:28] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [09:29] stig (n=stig@cpc2-tref4-2-0-cust399.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:31] TwoTwenty (n=matt@S0106001310802d75.ok.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:31] is there a way I can get gedit to hold the tab width: 4 [09:33] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:36] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:37] man, german irc is weird [09:37] TwoTwenty: not sure you'll find many gnome users here [09:39] flame_me (n=flame_me@modemcable196.144-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [09:42] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [09:42] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:46] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [09:46] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:47] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[10:06] slack 12.1 ships with python 2.5 [10:06] IceW (n=sartori@189-46-153-21.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [10:06] IceW (n=sartori@189-46-153-21.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:07] slackytude: yes and I installed the following: please update the http://pastebin.ca/1531465 i put the error, the list of python installed packages, the list of the packages i installed [10:07] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) got netsplit. [10:07] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:07] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [10:08] James____, hasnt changed for me [10:08] James____, and where did you get wicd from? [10:09] sorry it made a new number [10:09] please see http://pastebin.ca/1531476 [10:10] oi [10:11] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:11] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:12] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:12] James____, you know, on a default 12.1 slack you only need http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.1/network/wicd/ [10:12] to get wicd working [10:12] i tried that [10:12] did not work [10:12] then i upgrade to python 2.6 [10:12] ouch [10:12] you know, you have to recompile a lot of stuff to upgrade python [10:13] yes and i did [10:13] at the pastebin link there is ls -al of the dir [10:13] with all the stuff i recompile when upgrade python [10:13] i had it working before [10:13] but now i keep getting this dbus error [10:13] yesterday i got it working some how [10:13] with python 2.6 [10:14] zachary (i=zachary@adsl-69-208-79-122.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [10:14] Is dbus running? The pastebin mentions access denied to the dbus socket. [10:14] James____, well, Id try stop d-bus, delete /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket and any PID file of d-bus and start again. but you have made so many changes to your system its hard to diagnose [10:15] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:16] adeodatus (n=RF@92.82.87.222) joined ##slackware. [10:17] ps ax |grep bus = /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session [10:17] and dbus-launch --autolaunch 4400aebff.... --binary-syntax --close-stderr [10:19] and cd /var/run/dbus ls -al and i see the system_bus_socket file [10:19] James____: you should not have python 2.6 on your 12.1 system [10:21] tavelram (n=nope@marle.vat.sgsnet.se) left irc: [10:21] thrice`: if you please see the pastebin it show how i upgraded to 2.6 with python 2.5 i got even more errors and i had it wokring yesterday with python 2.6 [10:21] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:21] adeodatus (n=RF@92.82.87.222) left irc: "Leaving" [10:22] does your 12.1 wicd package use the python26 directory ? [10:22] arenics (i=1000@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [10:22] yes [10:22] if you please see the pastebin.ca you can see it there because i did the ls -al in that dir [10:22] this is why you don't use shitty packages [10:23] 12.1 did not have python26, why does a 12.1 wicd package? [10:23] please see http://pastebin.ca/1531476 [10:23] he made it himself [10:23] all of it [10:23] no, he downloaded it from slacky [10:23] well i tried everything [10:23] does someone uses emacs ? [10:23] i reinstalled this laptop 4 times so far [10:24] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:24] James____, really, get a clean slack 12.1 and come back again. your system is too heavily modified to be diagnosed correctly [10:24] why do you reinstall with slackware 12.1? [10:24] 12.2 is the latest, and even 13 is nearly out. 12.1 is quite old [10:24] to make it clean and the run the wicd package but it did not work [10:24] ok, the only thing you'd need to do after a fresh 12.1 install: [10:25] what version of python in 12.2 and 13.0 ? [10:25] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.1/network/wicd/ [10:25] i tried http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.1/network/wicd/ after a FULL fresh 12.1 from DVD [10:25] and? [10:26] i did that [10:26] and then i get errors [10:26] i will just reinstall the laptop again and then tell you the specific errors i get [10:26] so i am back in 1 hour [10:26] Aye [10:26] see ya [10:26] thx [10:27] someone uses the emacs ? [10:27] no need to reinstall [10:27] true [10:27] arenics: unfortunately, there are some [10:27] slackpk clean-system [10:27] sorry, slackpkg clean-system [10:28] just get rid of all wicd packages you have, and get rid of that nasty python 2.6 you stuck in /usr/local [10:28] Badlaa (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:28] thrice`: unfortunately ? [10:29] arenics: yes, just the $editor wars joke [10:29] ¬¬ [10:29] emacs is good [10:29] :) [10:30] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:31] arenics, agreed, emacs is very good [10:31] vim! [10:31] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.26.146) joined ##slackware. [10:31] vim is good so, but I think it's for quick edit puporse [10:32] only [10:32] to do a great job, uses Emacs [10:32] lol [10:32] estranho (n=diogolea@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [10:33] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:43] RMS just killed a puppy [10:43] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72422.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:43] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A72422.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [10:47] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:51] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:51] bon, même pas peur [10:52] Action: appzer0 voudrait un accès au SVN passke ouais. [10:52] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:52] appzer0, english? [10:52] oops! [10:52] appzer0: fail [10:52] sorry, wrong tab :/ [10:52] :) [10:54] to anyone with using Opera to get gmail, are you having any problems with auth-cram-md5? [10:54] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.10) left irc: [10:55] is anyone checking? [10:55] chris2 (n=chris@p5B16A68D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [10:55] No problem here. [10:56] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [10:56] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.164.183.59) joined ##slackware. [10:56] gm152 hihi; do you have the TLS option checked also? [10:56] for secure server access? [10:57] TLS 1 enabled, TLS 1.1 not enabled. [10:57] hmm ok [10:57] my opera cannot connect at all [10:57] estranho (n=diogolea@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:57] i just realised that i've had no mail got in a few days [10:57] 9.64, 32 bit. [10:58] same here [10:58] 10 suxd [10:58] nah, 10 is nice [10:58] its an opine [10:58] Action: slackytude nods [10:59] unlike main stream media, i like telling my opinion publically :) [10:59] unlike main stream? [10:59] I thought thats what MSM does [10:59] they dont normally announce that it's opinion [10:59] msm? [10:59] ah, I see [10:59] MSM = main stream media [10:59] oh [11:00] never saw that before [11:00] be glad [11:00] if i setup fetchmail to get remote mail and deliver, can opera access those files? [11:00] why's that? [11:01] probably not, ask fire|bird about it, he might know more [11:01] k [11:01] not on [11:01] coz its used on right wing political sites a lot [11:01] yea [11:02] do you read the Blacklisted.com rss? [11:02] or site? [11:02] never herd of it [11:02] k [11:02] damn this opera thing sux [11:02] d [11:02] ive been havin probs with it all week [11:04] im at a paryy ans drin [11:06] Quiznos: You're trying to access your gmail account by use of a browser rather than Opera Mail? [11:07] spook, you are drunk again [11:10] how can I move a picture on the left for example with digikam in a album ? [11:10] leptom (n=leptom@147.Red-88-7-184.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [11:10] hi [11:10] hi leptom [11:11] gm152 no, op's mail thingy [11:11] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:11] panel [11:11] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:11] alicephilippa (n=alice@host86-150-143-251.range86-150.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:12] I'm trying to develop a plasmoid with ruby but I don't know how to install plasma scriptengine :-S [11:12] alicephilippa (n=alice@host86-150-143-251.range86-150.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [11:12] samuelig (n=samuelig@52.pool85-57-143.dynamic.orange.es) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [11:12] qt bindings are installed because I have some scripts using Qt4 libraries [11:15] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-193-131.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:20] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.164.183.59) left ##slackware. [11:23] dakarn (n=skas@83.224.205.163) left irc: "shutdown -h" [11:24] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:26] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [11:26] greetings [11:28] y0 The-Croupier [11:28] Quiznos: I tried with the Opera browser only though. [11:28] anyone had developed a simple plasmoid with ruby/python on slackware ? [11:28] o; pls do as normal with its mail tool [11:29] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [11:31] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [11:32] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:32] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [11:33] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:34] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:34] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [11:36] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:36] phreak (n=phreak@pool-151-205-178-118.ny325.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:38] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-145-55.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:38] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:39] Hey guys, sorry to bother you all, but I have a bit of an issue. Every time Ilog onto my desktop, slackware automatically opens up firefox and my etc folder. Anyone know as to what may be causing this? [11:39] phreak, a few things [11:39] you mean, log into xfce/kde ? [11:40] thrice: yes [11:40] you probably exited once with "Save Session" when you had those things open [11:40] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:40] aye [11:40] thrice: is there a way to reverse this now? [11:41] close all, close session and enter again [11:41] sure, exit again with save session, but don't have those open [11:41] when I go to exit XFCe, there is a "Save Session for future login?" [11:41] There is also a session editor in some WM [11:42] or something like edit autostarted applications [11:42] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [11:43] ok thanks everyone [11:44] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:44] leptom: I thought those were included in -current, but can't find them right now. [11:44] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [11:44] I'm using current [11:44] :-S [11:44] phreak (n=phreak@pool-151-205-178-118.ny325.east.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [11:45] worst case for you, recompile kdebindings and kdebase-workspace [11:45] I found /usr/share/apps/plasma_scriptengine_ruby [11:45] hmm [11:45] but I haven't plasma_applet library [11:45] no such file to load -- plasma_applet (LoadError) [11:46] ok, there they are (looked in /usr/lib) [11:47] I found it at /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/i486-linux/plasma_applet.so [11:48] sounds good [11:49] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:49] perhaps it's because I recompiled ruby for i686 architecture [11:49] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [11:49] yes it's [11:49] irb(main):001:0> require 'plasma_applet' [11:49] LoadError: no such file to load -- korundum4 [11:50] I copied plasma_applet into i686-linux [11:50] can you try with stock ruby? [11:50] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72422.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:51] I can compile it again with i486 [11:51] no, just reinstall the stock package [11:51] j0z (n=JESUS@189.115.83.213) joined ##slackware. [11:52] no, I can't I have a problematic project that only works on ruby 1.8.6 [11:52] I suppose you did not create a package for your modified ruby, did you? [11:52] Yes I did it [11:52] so, upgradepkg to i486, test, upgradepkg to i686 won' work for you? [11:53] it should work [11:55] samuelig (n=samuelig@52.pool85-57-143.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [11:55] samuelig (n=samuelig@52.pool85-57-143.dynamic.orange.es) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [11:56] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-193-131.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. 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[12:07] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-145-55.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [12:08] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [12:08] shah16 (n=shah@121.246.152.157) left irc: "Leaving" [12:10] nyRednek (n=yosi@12-171-163-59.att-inc.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:11] mrcheeseycheese (n=mrcheese@host81-158-3-214.range81-158.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:12] hello anyone know how to get touchscreen to work on a dell laptop . With touchscreen and mouse. Can I use both mouse and touch screen at the same time? in the xorg.conf file it says InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" [12:12] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-193-131.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:13] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [12:16] James____, maybe an example xorg.conf with two usb mice might be helpful to compare with [12:16] you can have multiple input devices [12:19] how do i activate the touchscreen it is a dell e6400 laptop with touchscreen and i enable [12:19] the 2 touchscreen0 and touchscreen1 and set them as pointing device [12:19] but none of those worked [12:21] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:22] anyone tried this one [12:22] http://www.conan.de/touchscreen/evtouch.html [12:23] no, but it's quite an old document [12:23] very frusteratin; there's gmail ready to get but opera wont. [12:24] James, that site seems to suggest you need to instala driver [12:24] http://imagebin.org/59835 [12:24] omg ! :( [12:25] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-244-198.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. 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[12:33] mrcheeseycheese (n=mrcheese@host81-158-3-214.range81-158.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:33] what default slack file [12:33] init[5] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:34] ttySx is used for serial devices, btw [12:34] paissad_ (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] how do i find out what it detect this touchscreen on the laptop [12:35] dmesg? [12:35] use his xorg lines [12:35] i did [12:35] it says /dev/input/event1 [12:36] elilo (n=elilo@190.246.176.200) joined ##slackware. [12:36] then i restart X and nothing [12:36] mouse is dead and i cant use the screen [12:36] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [12:36] paissad_ (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:37] look in your xorg.log file [12:37] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:37] var/log/Xorg.0.log [12:37] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:38] anyone into spanking behinds? thinking my firewire cable was shot, i went out to buy another one, came home, enabled firewire support in the bios, and used my old cable. :P [12:38] look for the part where the evtouch driver is loaded and see if a) any errors and b) what devi e is assigned [12:40] Lurq (i=lurq@destiny2.et2605.com) joined ##slackware. [12:40] paissad (n=paissad-@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [12:40] package kde 4.3 for slack 13 schedule official? [12:41] google fails me too :( [12:41] elilo: 13 will ship with 4.2.4 [12:41] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-193-131.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [12:42] elilo: you can always build it yourself.. doesn't take long :) [12:42] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [12:42] yes, it takes forever [12:43] quasar: whats your prob with goog? [12:43] nah it doesnt'.. it only took about 7hrs on my single core 1.8GHz 64-bit system [12:43] quasar: delay compile build kde 4.3 for 13.0? [12:44] PurpleSmurf: that was sarcasm.. if you google "slackware 13 kde 4.3" it'll take you right to a post on linuxquestions where alienBOB has answered :) [12:45] elilo: wha? [12:45] quasar: entendido ok [12:45] k [12:45] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-244-198.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:48] is kde-4.3 much of an improvement over 4.2.4 ? [12:49] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.117.231) joined ##slackware. [12:49] I'm not seeing much of a difference myself [12:50] but the numbers are higher so it must be moar better [12:50] then its not worth it for Pat V. to repace 4.2.4 in slack-13 [12:50] dont think that had much of an impact on the decision :) [12:51] wot are you talking about [12:51] KDE 4.2 vs. 4.3 ~= Vista vs 7 [12:51] lol [12:51] Perhaps that's a simple enough explanation [12:51] like the difference between vista & win7 ? = they both suck! [12:52] exactly, it's sort of ridiculous to speak of relative improvements when talking about KDE [12:52] 4.3 is a Mojave of it's own :P [12:52] its like which tastes better: dog shit or cat shit [12:52] NthDegree: I dunno.. I'd consider 4.2.4 vs 4.3 to be more like an SP upgrade than a completely new version [12:53] quasar: k [12:54] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [12:55] quasar, I agree [12:55] and that is what Windows 7 is when compared to Vista :P [12:57] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [12:57] steiger_ (n=steiger@189.105.120.53) joined ##slackware. [12:58] opera is blocking on dns io; waiting for an answer [12:59] still blocked [12:59] how long for a dns timeout? [13:00] so, is kde 4.3 that different? [13:00] steiger, it is claimed to have fewer bugs and have better stability [13:01] not found bugs in kde 4.3 [13:01] ? [13:01] steiger: more stable, more themes and a few extra features (none of which I needed such as: PolicyKit, GPS) [13:01] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) joined ##slackware. [13:01] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [13:01] oh, that's not revolutionary. [13:01] quasar, PolicyKit rock :D [13:01] i'm shocked, shocked i tel ya, that none of you know the dns timeout value [13:01] rocks* [13:01] Quiznos: it's variable [13:02] no its not [13:02] change feature Policykit + hal for kde 4.3? [13:02] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [13:02] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [13:03] NthDegree: I r not developer yet.. but I'm getting there! [13:03] elilo: it doesn't need policykit, no [13:03] anyone got a touchscreen driver to work on slackware? [13:04] Quiznos: are you talking about the TTL? what would you mean by timeout value? [13:04] quasar, for an end-user it rocks ;-p [13:04] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:04] not running GUI apps as root is a good thing (isn't that what PolicyKit is supposed to be for?) [13:04] brb - reboot [13:04] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-193-131.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:05] I dont run GUI apps as root, ever lol [13:05] steiger_ how long opera will wait before timeing out on dns request; i killed it. [13:06] steiger_ it was looking up a fwdn/ip [13:06] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:06] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:07] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.87.162) joined ##slackware. [13:07] quasar does your X run as root? [13:07] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:07] Quiznos: i have no idea. [13:07] nods [13:07] krunner is showing its running as my username [13:08] i disbelieve [13:09] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-193-131.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [13:10] giuppy (n=giuppy@host84-168-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "leaving" [13:10] it hasn't been an issue (for me) in many years, why would I randomly need it now? :) [13:11] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:11] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.117.231) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:14] elilo (n=elilo@190.246.176.200) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:14] giuppy (n=giuppy@host84-168-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:14] elilo (n=elilo@190.246.176.200) joined ##slackware. [13:17] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [13:18] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware. [13:21] there was cowboy neal at the wheel on the bus to never ever land! [13:21] elilo (n=elilo@190.246.176.200) left irc: "leaving" [13:21] srecko (n=srecko@78-1-158-203.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. 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[13:39] greetings and salutations [13:40] shah16 (n=shah@121.246.152.157) left irc: "Leaving" [13:41] hello andarius [13:44] salutations mrselfpwn [13:46] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:46] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) joined ##slackware. [13:47] anyone got a touchscreen driver to work on slackware? [13:48] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:48] it is an egalax [13:53] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:53] hmm, x is running as root on my system. [13:53] Action: yesyes also disbelieves quasar [13:56] bbl [13:57] yesyes, X run as root [13:57] dorin_ro (n=dorin@92.84.54.47) joined ##slackware. [13:57] hy all [13:57] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [13:58] hi everyone - need advice on something ... [13:59] Hey rk4n3 [13:59] the green one [13:59] Hi fire|bird - how's it going :) [13:59] rk4n3: going great, thanks. you? [13:59] mostly good - have a specific issue today though... [13:59] rk4n3: what might that be? [13:59] andarius: Why the green one? :) [13:59] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:00] I have some VMware virtual machines that I need to migrate to new hardware, and they're having real issues on the new hardware [14:00] VMware crashes the box on the new hardware, both with the existing VMs, and even if I create new VMs with just OS in them [14:00] how can i "kill -s 2" rtorrent when i do a reboot of my computer? [14:00] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:00] ... so, I figured to switch to qemu on the new hardware [14:01] lo and behold, qemu crashes the machine the same way [14:01] what about VBox? [14:01] so now, I've reproduced this problem on both 32-bit and 64-bit slackware [14:02] I suppose I could try another VM solution like VBox, but do I need to suspect my hardware here ? [14:02] rk4n3: Well, I'd try vbox and see what happens with that, but if both VMware and qemu are crashing, I'd almost suspect something else as the cause. [14:02] maybe qemu does work well w/ vm images [14:02] fire|bird: because the yellow one will cause an immediate explosion [14:03] does not* [14:03] andarius: yikes, we don't want that. :) [14:03] nope, and the blue one will cause electrocution [14:03] powtrix: I'm actually not using a VM image with qemu - my approach was to install a brand-new VM and copy files from the old server... the copy crashed the machine [14:04] andarius: that reminds me of Family Matters last night where carl was on the treadmill with a bomb, they pulled the yellow based on "red we're dead, blue we're through, yellow we're mellow" :P [14:04] rather, just running a large rsync over the network caused qemu to crash the machine [14:04] you want to reply your vm image to one real machine? [14:05] powtrix: no, I created a new VM in qemu on the new hardware [14:05] pft...family matters.... [14:05] rk4n3: What if you just convert the VMware images to qemu or VBox and try them and see if they still work? [14:05] y0 antler [14:05] powtrix: then, in the new VM, I ran an rsync to copy files from the old VM, which is running in VMware on the old hardware [14:05] hey fire|bird :) [14:05] antler: long time no see, how's it going? [14:05] fire|bird: very good, thanks. how are you? [14:06] fire|bird: on rc2? :P [14:06] antler: doing great, thanks. I have a laptop now. :) and am using it right now too. :P Yes, on rc2 [14:06] lol [14:06] I use vbox, qmeu i think its a bit slow [14:06] fire|bird: how's the kde on rc2? [14:06] fire|bird: I suppose I could try that, but if a plain ol' new VM under qemu crashes the hardware under just a file copy, I'm concerned over the stability of my new box in general [14:06] rk4n3: Also, fwiw, VBox can use VMware files, the vmdk or whatever. [14:06] qemu is fast with kvm-intel or kvm-amd [14:07] antler: It's great, rc2 has 4.2.4, but I built kde 4.3 on it. :) [14:07] "t"wolf = teen wolf? :P [14:07] hey twolf [14:07] hehe [14:07] antler: nah, twolf = tired wolf. :P [14:07] I wish I was still a teen [14:07] hey fire|bird [14:07] nah, maybe teppenwolf [14:08] 2lf [14:08] just so long as it's not tranny wolf, who cares. :P [14:08] trannywolf lol [14:08] fire|bird: old or new lappy? [14:08] twolf: How's it going? [14:08] kvm-intel... hm any howto to me test? :) [14:09] fire|bird: going well thanks, how about you? [14:09] antler: It is a used one that was a gift to me, it's a 2007 laptop, so not too old. It's 64bit. :) [14:09] twolf: doing great, thanks. :) [14:09] OK, so I can add VBox to my list of things to try out - but at what point would we say I should start questioning my hardware ? [14:09] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "buh" [14:09] rk4n3: I would say so, yes. Start questioning something hardware related that's causing issues. [14:10] fire|bird: play it forward. give me the lappy. [14:10] antler: haha, you wish. :P [14:10] antler: I just got it in July. :P [14:10] fire|bird: OK - would the mobo be the first suspect ? [14:10] fire|bird: then you've used it long enough [14:10] ... or memory ? [14:10] powtrix: if you have qemu already installed, use the slackbuild from sbo for kvm, follow the directions it gives, then modprobe kvm & kvm-intel, then use qemu-system-x86_64 [14:10] antler: I've already replaced cpu and mobo. :) [14:11] rk4n3: I would say maybe memory, then processor, then mobo. [14:11] ok [14:11] fire|bird: seriously? in the lappy? must've cost you an arm and half a leg? [14:11] antler: haha, no, not when you have a family member with "for parts" lappys of the exact same model. :D [14:11] nice [14:12] antler: It's working great now, I don't have slack64 on it yet, but that will happen eventually. :) [14:12] fire|bird: side-note - this hardware was running an older version of qemu under 32-bit slackware 12.0 for about a year with no problems [14:12] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:13] rk4n3: what version of qemu are you using now? [14:13] twolf: latest - I think its 83 ? (checking...) [14:13] rk4n3: Hmm, interesting, could be a software issue then, qemu or something else that qemu uses or something. [14:13] what's that file i get rid of in /home so that starting kde gives me the configuration wizard again? [14:13] rk4n3: are you using kvm-intel or kvm-amd ? [14:13] twolf: kvm-amd [14:13] antler: well, if you go broadly, ~/.kde [14:14] fire|bird: oh the whole directory.... [14:14] antler: I'm not sure what the specific file is though. [14:14] antler: I don't know if the whole dir is necessary, no. [14:15] rk4n3: when you do a ctrl-alt-2 and enter 'info kvm' does it show: enabled ? [14:15] strangest thing. i click on an icon for a directory and kde does nothing. it's only that particular directory [14:15] :| [14:16] twolf: actually, the machine is down and at a client site, which I'm not at right now, so I can't see that - oh, and its kvm-87 [14:16] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:17] rk4n3: I was just throwing darts anyways, just checking to make sure the kvm was working properly [14:19] twolf: my guess would be that it is - IIRC, qemu won't start up if you specify using kvm and its not working ... this VM runs fine for a while, as long as you don't do much - its when a load happens for a while (like my big rsync) that it crashes - about about 15 minutes of it [14:19] rk4n3: Is it just the vm that crashes? [14:20] fire|bird: no - the whole box comes down hard - instantly [14:20] bye lads [14:20] leptom (n=leptom@147.Red-88-7-184.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: "Leaving. Bye, bye!" [14:20] rk4n3: ouch [14:20] fire|bird: yeah, scary [14:20] so, this happens with both VMware and qemu [14:21] dorin_ro (n=dorin@92.84.54.47) left irc: "Leaving" [14:21] rk4n3: since it happens in both vmware and qemu, hardware very well could be to blame [14:21] ... about the same timing, too - a load for about 15 minutes or so and them *bam* [14:21] rk4n3: Anything in any logs that help out? [14:21] twolf: yeah, and bringing down the whole box, it sounds too much like hardware. [14:21] twolf: yeah, that's what I wondered - I wonder if there would be any way to make sure it isn't the OS ? [14:22] fire|bird: agreed - no log info either btw - no messages in syslog or anything to indicate an issue [14:22] I tried slackware 12.2 and slackware 64 - same thing in both, though the run-time seemed a bit longer in slackware 12.2 - like maybe 25 minutes before it crashed instead of 15 [14:22] rk4n3: too bad there isn't, that may have shed some light on things. [14:24] twolf: if I were to assume a hardware issue, what would you think would be most likely: mobo, ram, or CPU ? [14:24] rk4n3: I would check ram first in this case, if you have more than one module, swap them around and test. [14:24] rk4n3: I wonder about the virtulization part of the cpu [14:24] but it is hard to say [14:25] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [14:25] twolf: I might be able to confirm/deny that if I ran some intense load on the bare system - if it crashed, that would eliminate the CPU virt set, I'd guess [14:25] it's like when your car won't start and you end up with a new starter, battery, and alternator before you get it fixed [14:25] yeah, no kidding [14:26] and then you sit there wondering, "well, what was the problem and which one of those things fixed it?" :P [14:26] Bonix (n=Bonix@201.17.198.217) joined ##slackware. [14:28] here's another quirk of this box: when I built it, the mobo's for AMD Phenoms were a little sparse, and I picked one with features I liked and had some detailed reviews done on it with the CPU that I wanted, but ... [14:29] you know autopart stores have testers for each one of those three items twolf [14:29] when I got the mobo and cpu and built the box, I was reading in the mobo's specs and noticed that it only supported 110w CPUs, and my CPU was a 125w [14:29] rk4n3: that could me part of it, it can't give the cpu the power it needs. [14:29] ... yet there were more than one online review done with the exact mobo and CPU, so I figured it must be OK [14:30] s/me/be/ [14:30] RipVanWinkle: hehe, yep but when you are young and stupid you think you "know" which one it is [14:30] you think you know, but you have no idea. :P [14:30] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [14:30] fire|bird: yeah, I wondered about that too - but, I took my chances, and this hardware ran well under intense load for a year (older version of qemu and slackware 12.0 [14:30] ) [14:30] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-132-4.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:31] ... then, with upgrade to new OS/software - *bam* - instability [14:31] Action: rk4n3 scratches his head [14:32] just trying to figure out where to take the investigation to next ... almost ready to just build a new box [14:32] there is a new version of kvm, 88, might be worth a try [14:33] ah, now that's a quick/easy thing to try ... [14:33] I'll definitely do that [14:34] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [14:37] hello all [14:37] hello [14:37] y0 agentc0re [14:37] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:37] mIRC!! [14:38] agentc0re: Are you serious? :P [14:38] ? [14:38] fire|bird: n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer] entered the room. [14:39] agentc0re: haha, I didn't notice that. [14:39] Keiffer: mIRC? WHY? :P [14:39] you were talking abouyt me? [14:39] Keiffer: yeah [14:40] agentc0re: did you get to jump outta a plane yesterday then? [14:40] dudes.. and dudesses.. i'm not that kind of noob [14:40] It's a spoofed ctcp [14:40] fire|bird: no, weather was bad. probably going today. [14:40] agentc0re: cool, have a good time. :) [14:40] I'm sure you will. :P [14:40] Keiffer: there was no ctcp :] [14:40] want a print screen? [14:41] Keiffer: what client are you using? not to mention, the n= is NOT CTCP related. [14:41] xchat [14:42] ctcp %s VERSION mIRC 6.35 for Microsoft © WindowsXP® [14:42] Keiffer: that part is, but the part we were talking about is not [14:42] what you were talking about? [14:42] 20:37:28 -!- Keiffer [n=mIRCuser [14:43] n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer] entered the room. <----This part [14:43] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:43] a, it's my name [14:43] :D [14:43] to dizz the enemies [14:43] your name is mIRCuser? your parents must have hated you.. [14:44] hahahaha [14:44] lol you can spoof version replies in mIRC too, version me :) {no, I did not hex edit or use a dll.. I am a scripter, I did it through scripts} [14:44] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-92-157-92.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:45] I am trying to get low profile in here 285 people just heard my secret. [14:45] 285 bodies to burry [14:45] nice.. massacre + suicide? [14:46] if there's one way I'd like to die it's that. [14:46] massacre+suicide [14:46] Keiffer: you know that if you say 285, you're including yourself, right? [14:46] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) joined ##slackware. [14:46] it says 1 ops, 285 total. I assumed i am the op [14:46] since i am so great [14:46] Keiffer: the op is slackboy [14:46] NOT YOU [14:46] 285 counts ops also [14:47] quasar: yeah, but 285 includes Keiffer in his bodies to dispose of. :P [14:47] ok, i am not good at math! so? [14:47] ok you're safe now...it's 286 [14:48] haha [14:48] i did the most foolish thing since i use linux [14:48] grazymax (n=grazymax@host55-39-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:48] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:48] i tried to encrypt home folder, played a little with PAM [14:49] and when i tried to gain root permissions, it sais "sorry password tried 3 times" [14:49] calibox (i=45fb0b3c@gateway/web/freenode/x-wctgmbayrxekqfrn) joined ##slackware. [14:49] said [14:49] so I felt kinda locked out [14:49] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) left irc: Client Quit [14:49] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) joined ##slackware. [14:50] hm, there aren't such limitations (by default) on slackware, right? [14:50] i don't use slackware [14:51] just came here for fun? [14:51] no, i learn nice thing in here [14:51] is there a way to use the mount command on more than one disck copy file? [14:51] he learns how to tell people to STFW.. because it's better than RTFM :) [14:51] back in #ubuntu they talk about video cards. every day [14:51] y0 thrice`, how's it going? [14:51] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:52] root (n=root@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:52] STFW? Share The Fun Women? [14:52] Nick change: root -> Guest17960 [14:52] search the flippin' web [14:52] Nick change: Guest17960 -> fiyawerx [14:52] eh, I like mine better. :P [14:52] another root login [14:52] STFG ! [14:52] ya, i like yours too. [14:53] shag the freaky groupies? [14:53] haha [14:53] lol [14:53] agentc0re: did you used to play acrophobia or something? [14:53] agentc0re: in quasar's mind, it's probably search the friggen google. :P [14:53] wow.. whatever happened to that game? o.O [14:53] did i mentioned that i managed to make ssh work? [14:53] fiyawerx: you should log out of root and back in as a normal user. [14:54] quasar: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=STFW [14:54] for those who don't know, i've to hell and back making it work [14:54] quasar: nopers. mind just lives in the gutter at all times. [14:54] doesn't ssh "just work"? [14:54] twolf: normally. :) [14:54] eviljames: for the record, I hate you -_- [14:54] not in my case. in my case everything not works [14:55] so, the problem was very complicated, deep, i had to explore it 5 days. [14:55] not on Slackware? [14:55] and i found out that iptables didn't allow 22 connections [14:55] ... [14:56] twolf: I think he's an Ubuntard. :P [14:56] hahaa [14:56] lol, burn... [14:56] lol [14:56] then teach me [14:56] well.. first you download the ISO [14:56] no, slakcware doesn't use pam [14:57] Keiffer: ditch ubuntu first and install slackware. Then read slackbook and teach yourself. [14:57] and how will you clear your sins of making me Ubuntard? [14:57] josefig (n=josefig@200.77.71.13) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:58] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:58] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [14:58] that would be your own sin [14:58] Keiffer: that's YOUR sins, not mine. [14:59] Keiffer: just be prepared for a lengthy initiation process. :) [14:59] what will slackware provide me? why it would be better than ubuntu? [14:59] o.o [14:59] fiyawerx (n=root@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "next time i use screen" [14:59] stability, security and the lack of "tard" [14:59] ye gods, how will it be better than Ubuntu, let me count the ways. [14:59] lol [15:00] calibox (i=45fb0b3c@gateway/web/freenode/x-wctgmbayrxekqfrn) left ##slackware. [15:00] then you wont have to listen to them talk about graphics cards in #ubuntu all day.. you can ask your questions here and get ignored like the rest of us :D [15:00] that would be cool [15:00] definitely [15:01] quasar: and he'll know the true meaning of RTFM :) [15:01] but seriously, i am really thinking in getting slackware. [15:01] fire|bird: s/RTFM/STFW/ [15:01] nobody is ignored. We just pretend not to have read anything [15:01] hey pprkut, how's it going? [15:01] the only thing that holds me is that i am inexperienced and i don't know how hard it will be to have it running as i want [15:01] hey fire|bird. Good thanks. you? [15:02] nah I have to say these guys are pretty good about helping people [15:02] Keiffer: Easiest solution to that, install slack and jump in head first. :) [15:02] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:02] Slackware gives you a lot more freedom to set it up like you want [15:02] pprkut: doing great, thanks. [15:02] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.87.162) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [15:02] fire|bird: best way too, imo (that's how I did it.. went from disliking RH straight into Slackware and haven't even tried to install another distro :) [15:03] just read the slackware book most if not all your questions will be answered there . I spent 6 hours reading it in one night hardly had to ask any questions now :D [15:03] Keiffer: some numbers: it took me 2 weeks the first time, without internet and breaking the system at least twice a day [15:03] quasar: yeah, same here. I tried slack in a VM, loved it, installed to the hdd the next day and have been slackin ever since and never even give other distros a second thought. [15:04] farchanjo_ (n=Brazil@189-92-131-117.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:04] pprkut, same here. [15:05] Keiffer: yeah, but you obviously have internet ;) [15:05] i do? [15:06] I got a copy of the internet right here too [15:06] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-92-157-92.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:06] dudes! 6 CDs? what the...? [15:06] Nick change: farchanjo_ -> farchanjo [15:06] I have my own internet [15:06] antiwire: I have it all on one USB-Stick. ALL the internet! [15:06] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:06] lol [15:07] nothing like a local copy [15:07] Keiffer: dude! it's the whole repo you don't have to use them all you can start with just the first cd and work your way from there [15:07] or just use the dvd [15:07] yea. english dictionary. you can rearrange the words and get every page on earth [15:08] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:08] you could use /dev/urandom and make it happen [15:09] i am so lucky. today i've learnd about random and urandom. so if you would have made this joke yesteday i could not laugh at it [15:10] 'glad to be of help [15:10] just wait until they start talking in lolcode [15:11] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:11] /exit [15:11] .. [15:11] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-183-177.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:11] what's lolcode? [15:12] code that makes you laugh i guess [15:12] google it. google is your friend. [15:12] I CAN HAZ STDIO?; [15:12] Bugz (n=Bugz@75.42.81.66) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:12] http://lolcode.com/ [15:12] etc [15:13] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [15:13] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-81-66.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:14] what books should i read on slackware? [15:14] or linux in general [15:14] Keiffer: the advanced bash scripting [15:14] Polarbrod (n=pal@lgh7.fornfyndet.se) joined ##slackware. [15:14] you will learn both to write bash script and improve your unix knowledges [15:15] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [15:15] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-81-66.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:15] Keiffer: I'd start here: http://www.slackbook.org/ [15:15] Hey could someone help me please? Im trying to install sw, but I only got a 4gb usb, is it possible to use only one usb? [15:15] cool.. but that seems so complicated.. it's more like programming [15:15] Polarbrod: it'll fit on a 4gb USB [15:16] Keiffer: hm, not really [15:16] it's shell scripting [15:16] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-81-66.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:16] that's not really « programming », that's more: « how to play with your OS » [15:16] quasar,how then? I tried use unetbootin, but some error poppped up using windows.. [15:17] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:17] Polarbrod: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:usbboot [15:18] q, thank yoi [15:18] you [15:18] np [15:19] CeruleanC (n=Cerulean@unaffiliated/ceruleanc) joined ##slackware. [15:20] what about programming? what language should i learn? 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[15:55] Collateral is a good Cruise movie [15:56] a movie just for amazon10x [15:56] Polarbrod: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lubi/files/UNetbootin%20Slackware%2012.0/ [15:59] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:01] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-119-236.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:02] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:02] user9239 (n=user9239@adsl-76-235-42-19.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:05] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [16:06] what is it with the "time* damn fonts on the net? are the younger people born with fscking SUPERMAN-like vision? ir is it "just cool"? [16:06] s/time/tiny/ [16:07] Action: dtanner adds another entry in his "Things that PISS ME OFF" list. [16:07] dtanner, bad web design [16:07] yeah [16:08] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:08] dtanner: time to buy some reading glasses [16:08] I have them already. [16:08] it is still ridiculous these font sizes. [16:08] use ctrl ++ [16:09] yeah yeah [16:10] i think i know what most of it is: they use these php templates because they can't code [16:11] and they are all set to "small fonts to piss off dtanner size" by default [16:11] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:11] Action: dtanner puffs his cigar [16:12] Nick change: rrh_ -> roorah [16:12] smoking will kill you [16:12] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:12] well, i guess Old_Fogie was really offended because he hasn't shown up for months now. [16:12] so will riding a bike to work. [16:12] dtanner, I was wondering what happened to him [16:13] dtanner: yeah that's too bad, I miss the old fart [16:13] dive: someone pissed him off (obviously badly) from what I understand [16:13] chopp: yeah me too [16:13] who pissed off Fogie? [16:13] coming from another old fart :P [16:14] <- old fart =) [16:14] dtanner, same :-) [16:14] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.86.173) joined ##slackware. [16:14] chopp: you enjoy a good cigar from time to time? [16:15] hi [16:15] it's been proven that the number one cause of death is birth [16:15] oh no! my gf is playing Bon Jovi [16:15] mancha: =) [16:15] yeah, I was wondering about Old_Fogie as well. I hope he comes back. Maybe he's busy on projects? [16:16] hitest: nah, sopmeone offended him is the reason he isn't here. I saw the logs someone posted. I forget exactly what the BS was. [16:16] -p [16:16] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: "leaving" [16:16] he got pissed when we told him that his router was vulnerable to the DCC issue and acted like it was the fault of the channel [16:16] he's probably in here right now [16:16] i find it hard to believe that he would blame the # [16:16] dtanner: once in awhile, but probably not the expensive one's like you. [16:16] he has more sense than that [16:16] dtanner: that's too bad! Hopefully he'll return. [16:17] that's sure what it seemed like [16:17] yes it did [16:17] antiwire: He left right after something jeev said [16:17] i figured it had to be more to it than a damn dcc fail [16:18] yo fire|bird [16:18] how goes it? [16:18] y0 dive, how's it going? [16:18] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:18] goes great here, thanks. [16:18] sup bird [16:18] just woke up [16:19] How did fire|bird piss off Old_Fogie? [16:19] y0 dtanner, how's it going? I'm just messing with the laptop right now. [16:19] fire|bird, I've been working on a services manager script. Looking for testers ;-) [16:19] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [16:19] dive: sweet :) [16:19] fire|bird, http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/bash/chkservice please download, run, test to destruction, give feedback and bug reports. [16:20] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [16:20] fire|bird: my son just got a new macbook pro [16:20] fire|bird: very nice lappy [16:20] dive you don't like pkgtool? [16:21] dtanner: awesome [16:21] dive: cool, I'll check it out. [16:21] Stop supporting Apple :( [16:21] dtanner: nice. My daughter has a macbook, they're nice units. [16:21] mancha, I do but I wanted something with more options that would detect all scripts [16:22] mancha, I got the idea from Red Hat's chkconfig [16:22] k.o. 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[16:27] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:27] like sendmail, cups, udev, etc [16:27] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:27] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.94.23) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:29] dive: It's downloaded, I'll test it after a bit, I'm on the lappy atm. [16:30] fire|bird, sure, thanks. [16:30] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:30] fire|bird, how is the lappy and imaging going? [16:30] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:30] dive: well, imaging wen't well with VM Converter, I just have Windows Product Activation to tend with. :/ The laptop is working great. [16:31] s/wen't/went/ [16:32] dive: I also think I have the cause of the fan not working issue that I'm working on right now. [16:32] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [16:32] I thought the new mobo fixed that? [16:32] dive: new mobo fixed everything but the fan not kicking in at all. [16:32] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:33] dive: I've discovered that this processor has PowerNow, etc stuff that controls CPU heat, and looks like fans, etc. too and that stuff in windows is missing. [16:34] I didn't know PowerNow controlled fans, I thought it was just for cpu stepping [16:34] _dieter_ (n=dieter@p54BEE9EA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:35] powernow doesn't control them fans i don't think [16:36] diabolix (n=jsoyke@c-24-3-121-83.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:36] dtanner: you're right. it was directed at the channel, I mis-recalled the situation http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/PN6eQa19.html [16:36] wasn't*** [16:37] _dieter_ (n=dieter@p54BEE9EA.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware. [16:38] last seen 11 weeks ago :( [16:38] old_fogie [16:38] [14:39] -NickServ- Last seen : May 31 05:00:40 2009 (11 weeks, 0 days, 15:37:27 ago) [16:39] maybe he's waiting to come back until after he has a new router? [16:39] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [16:40] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [16:40] 11 weeks to get a new router? [16:41] sometimes the mail is slow [16:41] sluckxz (n=sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:41] maybe he got sick of you guys! 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[16:47] fire|bird, should be down to acpi drivers and bios I would have thought [16:47] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.217) left irc: [16:47] have a look at device manager to see what acpi drivers you have perhaps, I then have a look for mobo drivers for acpi [16:47] dive: yeah, I don't know, but something isn't right if that fan isn't kicking in at all, even the other night when it was running 158F [16:47] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-119-236.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:48] s/I/and [16:48] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] dive: I'm running windows update atm because apparently that's how I get PowerNow installed. :/ [16:52] fire|bird1 (n=fire|bir@173-18-59-43.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [16:53] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:53] fire|bird, fire|bird1 you truly are the clone ranger ;-) [16:53] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:53] Nick change: fire|bird1 -> fire|bird [16:53] /nick fire|bird`seq 255` [16:53] haha [16:55] Polarbrod (n=pal@lgh7.fornfyndet.se) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:57] fire|bird, which mobo is it, out of curiosity? [16:57] dive: Umm, not sure exactly what it is. The laptop is hp zv6000, I know the BIOS is Phoenix. [16:58] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-92-131-117.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:02] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-106-223.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:06] fire|bird, seem like a lot of pages on web about that model and fans not working, locking up, closing down etc. [17:07] yeah, seems that way. [17:09] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:10] SlackNeo (n=Neo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [17:10] help me with geforce 9400 GT [17:10] Bart_S (n=Shan@83.119.172.124) joined ##slackware. [17:10] (EE) no device detected [17:12] hi people [17:14] roh roh Shaggy, a RunderStorm and spinning wind [17:14] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [17:14] Action: Quiznos grabs Toto. [17:14] hi nix_chix0r [17:14] still home alone? [17:14] where's my kite and key? [17:15] Action: fire|bird hands Quiznos a kite and key, there, now go play with some lightning [17:15] if i diskappear, you'll know why. [17:15] yay! [17:15] wo0ho0 [17:15] free lectrizity [17:16] nado spotted [17:16] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: "Leaving" [17:16] IceW (n=sartori@189-46-153-21.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:18] for now [17:18] tv is out kinda sucks [17:18] i probally connected it wrong [17:18] bleh [17:18] Guest92 (n=sartori@189-46-153-21.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:18] y0 nix_chix0r, how's it going? [17:18] directv had two cables and i only see one spot for it so i plugged it in and i get no tv;p [17:18] wonder if it had anything to do with the storm [17:19] haha [17:19] aww [17:19] i actually just woke up a few min ago [17:19] hah [17:20] n8 [17:20] :) [17:21] n8 Julian [17:21] :) [17:21] :) [17:21] car-flipping -nado. [17:21] 420 ehehehehehhe [17:23] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.21 :: www.esnation.com )" [17:24] feel so laz waking up at 4pm [17:24] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:24] http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3016488/get_her_how_to_seduce_a_girl_part_2/ [17:25] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware. [17:26] SlackNeo (n=Neo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left ##slackware. [17:26] wow network is still running [17:26] :) [17:26] had problems with 8139too :( [17:26] and usb [17:27] Kazer_ (n=robert@94-171-120-209.cable.ubr08.sand.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:27] antiwire: isn't that the truth [17:27] Kazer_ (n=robert@94-171-120-209.cable.ubr08.sand.blueyonder.co.uk) left ##slackware. [17:27] i actually like the *too nic when i had one a few years ago; very stable card and module [17:28] yep, only after 2.6.28 i had problems [17:28] i think [17:28] lol [17:30] never had problems with it before [17:31] Is amd.com working for you guys? [17:31] chking [17:31] yea [17:32] ok thx, the french redirect is broken I guess [17:32] k [17:32] appzer0, you might like http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ [17:32] works [17:33] has anyone seen drillbit taylor [17:33] whodat? [17:33] owen wilson movie [17:33] thx mancha but server is up: 'An unexpected error has occurred.' <-- amd.com/fr [17:33] nop [17:33] i downloaded the bluray version [17:33] repairing it now [17:34] i hope it's at least funnies [17:34] i'm not really a theatre guy [17:34] i hate downloading movies [17:34] i'd rather watch in theatres [17:34] but it's sunday and i'm bored [17:34] last i saw was one about christ; before that the original startrek movie [17:34] crazy [17:34] i skipped high skool class that day [17:34] sat in a theatre seat for 6h [17:35] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:36] lol [17:36] aahhh highskool [17:36] haskrool [17:37] pff baby sitters [17:37] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.149.101) joined ##slackware. [17:40] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [17:40] gm152_ (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:40] greetings everyone.. hows it going these days? [17:41] eh [17:41] it's not going for some [17:41] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.86.173) left irc: "Leaving." [17:41] jeev: what?! you found a way to stop time?! :p [17:42] jeev: why bro? what happened? [17:42] i didn't say it's not going for me [17:42] i am rather upset that i had 5 lbs of ice cream and it didn't taste too good [17:42] and i didn't hit the gym today [17:42] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:43] damn....lol [17:43] lots of ice cream [17:43] you ate 5lbs of icecream? [17:43] hiya nix_chix0r , antiwire [17:44] i'm upset because i re arranged the living room and have a little clean up to do from that i.e vacuum up 5 pounds of cat fur from under the couches and i was gona throw a roast in but i woke up at 4pm and told the hubby to come home round 7 and he's 30minutes away lol [17:44] 3hrs early [17:44] is there anything else apart from alsamixer? i know my laptop has more volume than the present.. [17:44] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:45] The-Croupier: is it a specific application? I have this issue with MPlayer [17:45] antiwire: same here... [17:45] smplayer..mplayer [17:45] For me, it only happens with those [17:45] mplayer seems like a piece of crap. I can't even change chapters on dvds, it crashes [17:45] truth is i have tried it with dragon player as well..but thats only that [17:46] I've tried the latest SVN version too. same thing [17:46] antiwire: yep, im talking about latest as well [17:46] antiwire: what are you using now? [17:46] r29512 [17:46] mplayer [17:47] link? [17:47] svn [17:47] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.140.239) joined ##slackware. [17:47] no i ment anything else... [17:48] xine [17:48] xine doesn't have volume issues [17:48] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:24] SlackNeo (n=Neo@190.176.140.239) joined ##slackware. [18:26] this is toooooo quiet..what is wrong guys? [18:27] haemorrhoids [18:27] nothing wrong at all, just nothing to talk about. :) [18:27] SlackNeo (n=Neo@190.176.140.239) left irc: "Saliendo" [18:27] fire|bird: that is impossible.. 200 people in a room and nothing to talk about...amazing [18:28] fire|bird: howdy %=] [18:28] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.140.239) joined ##slackware. [18:28] BP{k}: hiya ;) [18:29] howdy BP{k}, how's it going? [18:29] fire|bird: I am good :) parents took me and kethry out to dinner tonight to celebrate 6.5 years together :D [18:29] BP{k}: awesome, and congratulations. :) [18:30] BP{k}: congrats man. that is a long time. [18:30] it started with champagne breakfast today .. finished sitting here with a bottle of ouzo :D [18:30] i.e. a really good day. :) [18:30] BP{k}: lol ;) doing it greek style i see [18:30] irado (n=irado@201-74-12-223-sc.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:30] fire|bird: indeed :) [18:31] The-Croupier: no that's later; ) [18:31] lol [18:32] lol [18:32] BP{k}: too much info man, but hey...if its happening im happy for you.. ;) at least some one else is doing it greek style ;) [18:32] haha [18:33] hehehe. The-Croupier, I am not fussy ;) [18:33] BP{k}: because it happening..you would be if it wasnt ;) [18:34] you all got a greek in you, ;) you just dont know it yet.. it takes a greek to get the greek out of you ;) [18:34] The-Croupier: I though it just took plenty of ouzo ;) [18:34] BP{k}: that too ;) [18:36] BP{k}: that is a long time to be with someone though... she must be really nice ;) [18:36] congrats again man.. really hard these days ;) [18:41] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [18:42] thanks :) [18:42] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-244-198.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:42] brb [18:43] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware ("Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night"). [18:43] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:43] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [18:44] LnxSlck: did you get your openGL issues sorted from this morning? [18:45] BP{k}, yes i did, thank you very much [18:45] BP{k}, reinstalling it solved the issues [18:45] usb stops working after a while :s [18:45] LnxSlck: cool :) [18:46] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.83.198) joined ##slackware. [18:46] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [18:46] only reboot solves the problem [18:46] BP{k}, now my slackware is running peachy [18:46] BP{k}, all i need now is kde4.3 and the the universe is at peace :) [18:46] LnxSlck: nah, you don't :) [18:46] LnxSlck: Build it yourself. :P [18:47] fire|bird, i now [18:47] Action: BP{k} slaps fire|bird [18:47] fire|bird, but i'll wait, no rush [18:47] BP{k}: What? I did. :P [18:47] just switch to xfce ;) [18:47] haha [18:47] BP{k}, you like xfce more than kde? [18:47] xfce is very nice, no doubt about it. :P [18:47] LnxSlck: let me be precise; I like XFCE more than KDE4. [18:48] lol [18:48] BP{k}: What don't you like about KDE4? [18:48] xfce is nice [18:48] fire|bird: i don't like konsole at all. and it generally feels like KDE4 gets more in my way than KDE3 (3.5.10) ever did. [18:48] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:49] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [18:49] BP{k}: fair enough. :P [18:50] BP{k}, ever tried openbox? [18:50] fire|bird, to build kde4.3 i need extra diff or just update the slackbuild? [18:50] fire|bird: considering I already used a fair ammount of GTK apps. it was a small step. [18:50] LnxSlck: nope, can't say I did. [18:50] BP{k}: fwiw, I'm on my lappy which is Windows XP MCE atm. :P [18:50] xfce ftw !!! [18:51] BP{k}, you should when you have the time [18:51] powtrix: you need to update akonadi, soprano, strigi, and then grab the slackbuilds and the kde 4.3 source and start building. [18:51] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) left irc: "I'm off here" [18:51] andarius++ oh .. and waffles ;) [18:51] rvo (n=rodrigo@adsl-139-224.click.com.py) joined ##slackware. [18:51] double win !! [18:51] will try [18:52] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.83.198) left irc: "Leaving" [18:52] fire|bird: I don't like the fact that up to now, that KDE has stuff left out that was pretty common in KDE3. While I do understand the need to rewrite stuff and "release early and release often" by the time KDE3 3.x series came around, thing where working pretty smoothly. [18:53] perhaps in the future I will give KDE4 a try again but now, I kinda actually like XFCE more. [18:53] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-193-131.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:53] BP{k}: cool. Before KDE4, I was using fluxbox and before that, xfce. I was very happy with xfce, but decided to try other de/wm's [18:55] BP{k}: Thunar is a great file manager too, very nice. [18:56] brb [18:56] fire|bird: aye, plus extend XFCE with some of the goodies .. its goot [18:56] hmm damm russians managed to crash a jet once again [18:57] BP{k}: yeah, the xfce goodies are really nice. [18:57] 2 jets [18:57] at least they are working in teams now ;) [18:57] fire|bird, bash is the best damn file manager ever [18:58] Bart_S: yeah [18:59] it was a stunt team [19:00] yeah I am aware who/whatthe Russian Knights are. [19:01] and i just looked it up, how are there no pics of the actual crash? stunt teams seem to always have a few cameras pointed at them, you would think someone taped it [19:01] ok [19:01] im not [19:01] lol [19:03] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [19:08] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-8-74.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:09] farchanjo_ (n=Brazil@187-24-14-165.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:09] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [19:11] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@190.176.140.239) joined ##slackware. [19:13] see you ppl [19:13] :) [19:13] bye gar0t0 [19:13] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-8-74.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:13] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "leaving" [19:14] any idea why x would run worse with the intel driver vs the vesa driver? [19:14] on the eeepc it works fine [19:15] :-\ [19:16] rvo (n=rodrigo@adsl-139-224.click.com.py) left irc: "leaving" [19:22] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:23] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:25] zachary (i=zachary@adsl-69-208-79-122.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) left irc: "Hey! Where'd my controlling terminal go?" [19:25] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-244-198.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:27] quasar, ping [19:27] quasar, http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/bash/wget-dialog-example [19:28] what do you guys think is the best bitorrent client / [19:28] qbittorrent or deluge [19:28] gui or cli? [19:29] the one that does what you want. [19:29] dive: gui [19:29] qbittorrent fo me then [19:29] definitely qbittorrent [19:29] ill check it out [19:29] deco: It's on SBo [19:29] iirc dive is who submitted it [19:29] deco, need qt4 thought [19:29] dive: will have a look tomorrow or so. but you really get git going for development like that ;) [19:29] fire|bird, yes [19:30] dive: thanks for that. :) [19:30] fire|bird: thanks [19:30] dive: ah lol [19:30] farchanjo (n=Brazil@189-92-131-117.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:30] (re: your chkservices script) [19:30] BP{k}, never used git. Hard to do? [19:30] git is the best scm system ever :D [19:30] I mean I've used it as a user, not for submitting code [19:31] deco: seconded [19:32] reasonable easy, you can either set up gitweb, use github, I also believe gitosis makes it easy to set up gitrepositories but haven't looked at it deeply enough [19:32] github is nice [19:33] fire|bird: it is, are you on github? [19:33] BP{k}: not myself, no, but eviljames does and that's where we store stuff for the studios project dtanner, eviljames and I are working on. 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[19:40] andarius is the star of his personal collection though [19:40] the collection is not what makes it a hub :P [19:41] BP{k}, http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/bash/wget-dialog-example [19:41] BP{k}, was discussing dialog witj quasar earlier and he mentioned trying to get a progress metre for downloads [19:41] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:41] dive: Ah that :) [19:41] BP{k}, it's rather nice [19:42] looks a bit prettier that when dialog exits and download progress is written in console like sbopkg does now [19:43] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] but I guess it needs tests to check for missing urls etc. But it's an example to work from anyway. [19:45] Bonix (n=Bonix@201.17.198.217) left irc: "leaving" [19:45] brb [19:46] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware. [19:50] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. 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[20:20] just reboot [20:20] right. [20:20] thanks [20:24] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-193-131.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [20:25] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:25] later BP{k} [20:26] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-193-131.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:27] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [20:27] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-193-131.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [20:29] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:30] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-62-54.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-62-54.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [20:32] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-62-54.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:32] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-62-54.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. 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[20:56] Nick change: fire|bird -> Guest4372 [20:57] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.34.89) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:57] Nick change: Guest4372 -> fire|bird [20:58] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [20:58] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@88.242.172.187) joined ##slackware. [20:59] alice_ (n=alice@host86-150-143-251.range86-150.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [21:00] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@88.242.172.187) left irc: Client Quit [21:03] dios_mio (n=test@88.242.172.187) joined ##slackware. [21:03] slackware is primitive.. I has text screen! :P [21:03] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [21:04] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:04] so... type startx and push enter? [21:04] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [21:05] nahh, type essplode and hit enter :o [21:05] quasar, i took up the challenge: http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/bash/wget-dialog-example [21:05] eviltux (i=eviltux@eviltux.com.mx) left irc: "changing servers" [21:05] type rm -rf / and push RETURN ! (I take no responsibility in any data loss by typing this, but I'm sure if you do we'll find a way to put it on noobfarm) [21:06] lol [21:07] eviltux (i=eviltux@eviltux.com.mx) joined ##slackware. [21:07] dive: nice, I might end up using that if you dont mind (dont plan on publishing any scripts) [21:07] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@190.176.156.192) joined ##slackware. [21:07] quasar, sure no problem as at all [21:09] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-152-23-61.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:10] phillipsm (n=matt@173-20-30-158.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [21:14] i don't think you should tell people to rm * even if as a joke [21:14] that's whyi never say rm, i say rename. [21:15] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [21:17] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:18] fine.. dont rm... instead listen to the voices of the gods.. cat /boot/vmlinuz > /dev/dsp [21:19] cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp <-- the devil speaks longer :P [21:19] lol [21:19] longer yes, but how long? [21:19] until silenced... [21:20] Nick change: SlackNeo_ -> SlackNeo [21:20] by cat /dev/sdp /dev/null/ ? :) [21:20] whoops, forgot the > [21:20] also we done want to hear it. you would have to mv :P [21:20] or kill the cat process [21:21] true :P [21:21] and who doesnt like killing cats... all the needless cat abuse these days [21:21] yeah, for sure. :) [21:21] andarius: speaker-test -f 900 -t sine [21:22] cool, there is a speaker-test? [21:23] dios_mio: speaker-test -f 1000 -t sine #range is 50-5000 hz; man speaker-test [21:23] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:23] coolness [21:23] dios_mio run this command in a terminal: aplay -vv /usr/share/sounds/alsa/* #at the bottom of the terminal output do you see the number of #'s changing and the % number changing and do you hear sounds? [21:24] slack_fish (n=zxcc_119@119.48.154.125) joined ##slackware. [21:24] gnubien: thanks [21:24] psh.. I want one that goes higher than 5k .. hook it up to a loudspeaker and play it at night so the dogs in the neighborhood will go crazy [21:25] dios_mio: you can also check the mic with this: arecord -f cd -vv /dev/null [21:25] coolness [21:26] can i say a Situation?? [21:26] quasar: would be cool if it went to 20000 hz or higher [21:27] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:27] slack_fish: ask [21:27] easytag the slackbuilds compiler can not, and why? [21:27] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [21:27] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:28] i use slackware current.. [21:28] i just used -f 150 and my room lights shut off (i use the clapper (tm), btw) [21:28] Some people tried to do it?? [21:28] svgalib: Cannot open /dev/svga [21:28] Is svgalib_helper module loaded? [21:28] help plz? [21:28] dios_mio run this command to test all your speakers and report you have sound, no sound or errors: speaker-test -c6 -Dplug:surround51 -t wav -l1 [21:28] gnubien: thanks man.. my speakers are working ok, I am listening to an mp3 right now :) [21:29] ok [21:29] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [21:29] my seejpeg command doesnt work.. thats my problem [21:29] mancha: cool idea [21:29] dios_mio, in /etc/vga/libvga.config uncomment the NoHelper line [21:30] maybe yuour svgalib is not avaiable to your current colonel? [21:30] dive thx man [21:30] slack_fish: I'm not sure we understood the question [21:30] (I know I didn't) [21:30] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [21:31] dive, it works now thanks.. only it wont show .png ... [21:31] dios_mio, try fbida or zgv [21:31] wonder if the jpeg in seejpeg has anything to do with that [21:31] o [21:31] dive thanks man [21:32] easytag program in slackbuilds ..can't compile [21:32] slack, do you have the deps? [21:32] id3lib, if memory serves [21:33] mancha: Confirmed. [21:33] i install id3lib's program in my slackware already [21:33] what compile error? [21:33] Library [21:34] then you didn't do a hot job at installing id3lib [21:34] i ask .you can compile it?? [21:34] yes [21:34] slack_fish, can you put output with error here@: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com [21:34] oh i see .i will try it tonight [21:34] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-421232.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [21:35] first install id3lib (your choice of method though if slackbuilds has easytagit will have id3lib too, i am 99% sure). then after install easytag (using preferred method again) [21:35] Guest92 (n=sartori@189-46-153-21.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [21:35] IceW (n=sartori@189-46-153-21.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:35] Id3lib with built-in slack not it? [21:36] fire|bird (n=quassel@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [21:36] no, it is not built in [21:36] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [21:36] oh [21:36] what text based MSN client do you recommend? [21:37] dios_mio, finch [21:37] console [21:37] dive, thanks man [21:38] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [21:38] thanks mancha and bnubien [21:38] ok [21:38] gnubien thanks [21:39] slack_fish sure, have fun ;) [21:39] thanks you.i 'll study english hard .haha [21:40] so far its good (i can understand it). [21:40] slack_fish: your english is good but do not stop studying [21:40] I've seen worse from the people who have grown up speaking it, blocked two of them on MSN earlier [21:41] SlackNeo_ (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [21:41] Nick change: SlackNeo_ -> SlackNeo [21:41] and i bet it's better than my mandarin [21:42] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-168-78-251.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:44] dude, why cant we get perl programs work properly on slackware? [21:44] now that I know about speaker-test I kinda want to try to make some old NES music with it :x [21:44] dios_mio, such as? [21:44] Can't locate Curses.pm in @INC <--- wot? [21:45] dios, you might be needing some modules [21:45] you need that module [21:45] Can't locate LWP/UserAgent.pm in @INC <---- [21:45] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-421232.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:45] mancha: no proper perl installation i guess [21:46] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.34) left irc: "Leaving" [21:46] "proper" the choice of modules to have in your default install is arbitrary [21:46] or perhaps those programs were written for a different perl version? my version is perl 5 [21:46] does your program have a Use Curses::UI or summit? [21:46] no idea.. I am only trying to run some perl based console MSN programs I downloaded [21:47] well look at it, or "grep Use program.pl" [21:47] dios_mio, they should say which modules they depend on. Then you can type 'cpan' at a prompt and 'install Curses' or whatever [21:47] maybe grep -i use (better) [21:48] steiger (n=steiger@20150143048.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:48] dios_mio, at a cpan root prompt type 'install LWP::UserAgent' [21:48] you can use CPAN directly as per dive, or you can dl the module and make into a .tgz for easy management [21:49] hmm ok [21:49] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:50] well-documented perl programs should tell you which modules you need though [21:50] on their intarwebs site [21:50] slack_fish (n=zxcc_119@119.48.154.125) left irc: [21:51] dios_mio (n=test@88.242.172.187) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:51] dios_mio (n=test@88.242.172.187) joined ##slackware. [21:51] cpan killed my system :| [21:52] never knew it had such power :D [21:52] strange [21:52] I tried installin Curses first [21:52] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [21:52] there seem to be many curses modules... [21:53] make sure you get the right one [21:53] mmh [21:53] i /Curses/ [21:54] you'll have to config cpan the first time you run it, [21:54] thanks man [21:54] it did an auto config [21:57] now it is working.. maybe pc crashed earlier because MP3 was on, maybe cpu was overload [21:57] or the song sucked [21:57] it was marylin manson [21:58] that's definitely the reason then [21:58] :| [21:59] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-244-198.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:03] what happens if I type "upgrade" in cpan? [22:03] because it is doing a lot of stuff now [22:04] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:06] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [22:09] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:10] upgrade will upgrade everything I thinl [22:10] be prepaperd for a long wait [22:11] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [22:12] and lots of pushing enter [22:13] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:16] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:17] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:18] dive, I just ctrl-c it :P [22:18] hope for the best [22:18] dive man... I installed LWP:user agent but still my program gives me the same error [22:19] Nick change: AnonymousRednek -> nyRednek [22:20] can you please paste the output from "grep -i use " [22:21] mancha, a lot of lines to paste [22:22] how about grep -i use prog.pl | grep :: [22:22] ok [22:23] use Text::Wrap; [22:23] use IO::Handle; [22:23] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:24] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:28] fire|bird (n=quassel@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere." [22:28] do you have those modules on your system? [22:29] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:31] i think both those are pretty core, where's the curses stuff? [22:31] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:31] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [22:33] puyi (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [22:34] confirmed, both those are core. so you have to worry about the other add-on modules [22:34] I'm going get a vps soon , I am given the option of choosing debian,centos,gentoo and slackware for my OS. Do you guys recommend using slackware for a server ? [22:34] to get* [22:35] puyi: how familiar are you with Slackware? [22:35] rworkman: very familiar i use it for my desktop but i am also very familiar with debian [22:36] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.83.198) joined ##slackware. [22:37] puyi: is this for a production system for your employer or a personal "project" server? [22:37] sitwon: web hosting [22:37] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.83.198) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:37] why do you need a VPS for web hosting? [22:37] to learn how to do it perhaps [22:37] spook: exactly [22:38] Well, either Slackware or Debian then. Up to you. [22:38] In that case I would recommend Slackware. But if you just want to setup a quick blog there are easier ways to do it [22:38] elderK (n=elderK@222-152-99-143.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [22:38] So long as it's something you're familiar with, you'll be fine. [22:39] Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone has any opinion on Xterm vs. Rxvt vs. Rxvt-unicde vs. Mrxvt. [22:39] rworkman: ok thanks :) [22:39] make a hybrid, call it SlackianDebware [22:39] I'd simply like a 88|256 color terminal that supports Truetype fonts :) [22:39] rworkman, work on getting an image going for xen [22:39] come on [22:39] basically take slackware and patch openssl to have super weak keys, or install debain and remove pam and gnome [22:39] jeev: no interest; sorry :/ [22:39] elderK: try sakura, slackbuilds.org has it [22:40] There's already a host jeev that does have a slackware image [22:40] I've tried Sakura, I didn't much like it. [22:40] Was far slower than Xterm. [22:40] the hybrid formula :> [22:40] RipVanWinkle: Xfce's Terminal is the same but more fully featured. [22:40] Besides, I have no need for Gtk. [22:40] i tried sakura once, it is a piece of shit [22:40] (it uses the same vte lib backend) [22:40] elderK: more features = more overhead [22:40] mancha, you speak sense. [22:40] Terminal in -current should be *much* faster than the one in 12.2 (at least in my experience) [22:40] Action: elderK wiggles his ears. [22:40] konsole is nice :) [22:40] :P [22:41] Action: jeev flicks rworkman's face [22:41] Action: jeev runs [22:41] Okay, to be "decent" it has to be faster than Xtemr : [22:41] s/mr/rm/ [22:41] elderK: good luck with that. [22:41] Well, not faster as such. Just, support Truetype and be lighter. [22:41] isn't Xterm (by definition) the fastest? [22:41] No. [22:41] You're not going to find anything lighter than xterm. [22:41] (well, not that I'm aware) [22:41] (rxvt) [22:42] you casn make rxvt look almost identical to xterm if your xresources-fu is good [22:42] I use aterm because the transparency looks nice [22:42] Okay, maybe, but if you're on hardware that lets you actually pick up on the difference, you've got bigger issues. [22:42] xterm: 4.96mb resident vm, with ttf font, 2.68mb without. [22:42] rxvt is 2.48mb resident. [22:42] That being said, I think xterm is largely a POS. :) [22:42] And aye, that's true. [22:42] On both counts [22:42] :P [22:43] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-157-105.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] :) [22:43] Beats Sakaura to hell though. [22:43] anybody use konsole ? [22:43] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:43] elderK: yeah, true that. [22:43] y0 folks...How's everyone? [22:43] I used to, when I used KDE. [22:43] just saw this. some guy said slack uses grub. http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/9b5y0/ask_rlinux_conservative_desktop_linux_distribution/c0c3mtr?context=1 [22:43] rxvt-unicode always left me with a sour taste so, I'm considering trying mrxvt, with half of the excess disabled. [22:43] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [22:43] puyi: I know a guy who uses Console via Kuake (or something like that) [22:44] er. Konsole [22:44] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [22:44] amazon10x, grub is available but i think it's lilo by default [22:44] i like kuake [22:44] its really useful [22:45] I just have aterm bound to Windows-A in my .fluxbox/keys [22:45] jeev: yes, it's lilo by default, last i checked. i just lol'd when i saw him say it's grub now. someone should go correct him [22:45] oh wait, i'm logged in, i'll do it [22:45] you saw it first, should do it [22:45] ;D [22:46] done [22:46] elderK, depends if you need utf8 support. Mrxvt utf8 is being worked on right now, but no idea when it will be absorbed into main. I have a really nice rxvt-unicode setup that does me very well. I hated it the first time I used it though... [22:46] sitwon: yeah it's now called Yakuake [22:46] dive, i [22:46] i can never spell it [22:46] don't need utf8. [22:46] yakuake, sakura, konsole are bloatware imo [22:47] as for urxvt, it was 'okay'. Just, I remember it being glitchy in some ways, I forget... what specific reasons no though. [22:47] elderK, then mrxvt++ [22:47] amazon10x, edit that response [22:47] meh, memory is cheap [22:47] i like it [22:47] dive: I agree, but Bash is Bash [22:47] dive: That chkservice script is very, very nice. [22:47] "slackware doesn't use grub, it has the option to use it i think in the contrib folder but by default use lilo" [22:47] fire|bird, thanks [22:48] Who hosts mrxvt now? google code or sourceforge? [22:48] elderK, my mrxvtrc: http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/rcfiles/mrxvtrchttp://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/rcfiles/mrxvtrc [22:48] elderK, sf afaik [22:48] elderK: http://sourceforge.net/projects/materm/ [22:48] stupid mouse.. [22:48] http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/rcfiles/mrxvtrc [22:49] jeev: edited [22:49] i dont see the changes here but i have to fart [22:49] i duno how that related but i wanted to say it anyway [22:49] Sweet, full screen. [22:49] And cheers, fire|bird [22:50] http://code.google.com/p/mrxvt/wiki/Download [22:50] box (n=ab_cd@58.33.149.133) joined ##slackware. [22:51] good find elderK :) [22:51] all your code r belong to goog [22:51] Here's hoping that it compiles and runs happy on OSX's Xquartz. [22:51] :) [22:52] elderK: good luck :) [22:52] Feel better ,jeev? [22:52] btw, what the hell is slipscrolling? [22:53] no i cant fart where i'm at [22:53] it went away temporarily [22:53] sorry to hear,jeev...:C [22:53] tell me about it [22:53] i hate holding it in [22:56] just blast it out & blame it on the dog [22:56] or girlfriend, whatever's handy. [22:58] Sweet, so far so good. [22:58] and, man, I heart GNU Screen. [22:58] ^_^ [22:59] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:00] hi [23:01] Evenin', Quiznos [23:01] hi M [23:01] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.147) joined ##slackware. [23:02] Btw, is anyone aware of how to enable Vi-style command editing in Bash? [23:02] so what's the latest? [23:02] elderK see bash.1 it's in there [23:02] like, hjkl to move, ^, $ ? [23:02] Cheers Qui. [23:02] er, Quiznos :) [23:03] and umm [23:03] well start there [23:04] Woah, holy crap. Mrxvt beats the crap out of Rxvt. [23:04] lol [23:04] sounds excellent,elderK [23:05] Nick change: gm152_ -> gm152 [23:05] So far, half memory use. [23:06] :P Not that it really matters on this machine. [23:06] But still, cool. [23:06] elderK: set -o vi [23:06] Cheers, gm152 [23:06] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-81-66.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:07] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@75.42.81.66) joined ##slackware. [23:08] Man, CL-editing, Bash-vi style is freaking nirvana. [23:08] ewww [23:09] vi style? [23:09] elderK: Thanks for mentioning that feature. [23:09] :P [23:09] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@75.42.81.66) left irc: Client Quit [23:09] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui" [23:10] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-81-66.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:15] dios_mio (n=test@88.242.172.187) left irc: "leaving" [23:18] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:19] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:23] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:24] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:24] goodnight ya bunch of Pinochio looking knuckleheads [23:24] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:25] sheesh [23:25] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:26] but how did he know??? [23:26] good question,dive...:D [23:27] Chapinha (i=0@201.53.196.77) joined ##slackware. [23:27] has anyone writ a script to wget from a google search page? [23:28] wget what? [23:28] or [23:28] well [23:28] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:28] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [23:28] i 'm thinking, give a criteria to goog, the colect all results and then wget the results [23:28] Has anyone set up a decent cross-compiling toolchain ? [23:28] you know [23:29] mirror google :) [23:29] puyi (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:29] ah [23:29] scratch? [23:29] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:29] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:29] maybe that's a two-step proc? [23:29] so you want to submit a query... and then have some kind of list of relevent pages.... which you can click to visit? [23:29] wget -i reads from a file [23:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:30] pff que loca click [23:30] pff [23:30] lol [23:30] THERE'S NO CLICKING HERE [23:30] lol [23:30] ok wget's -i is read from file [23:30] Quiznos: do you have any idea how much space it would take to mirror Google? [23:30] what's the point of the wgetting [23:30] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:30] we have terrabytes now; "we're without excuse" (apoloigies to Gawd :) [23:31] baha [23:31] it's time to stop messing around and get to some serious mirroring [23:31] rofl [23:31] [23:31] Quiznos, do you realize how expensive it will be to mirror google? [23:32] you're missing the pernt [23:32] goog has the urls; i wanna mirror them [23:32] Quiznos, you're trying to start an archive of all things internet? [23:32] but.. if there's no site @url then have to figer out how to get the cached data that goog has [23:32] Quiznos: google has a LOT of URLs, you want to mirror all of them? [23:32] almost red [23:32] sitwon nop [23:33] Quiznos, have fun...hope you have a mainframe [23:33] dont need a mframe [23:33] need hd and fat pipe [23:34] Quiznos: If you distribute the job you could do it a lot faster [23:34] Quiznos, i beg to differ, to get a useful mirror of the web, you'll need an ibm mainframe [23:34] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [23:34] you two should tawk to each other [23:34] with at least 16 processors [23:34] i just want urls based on criteria. [23:34] nyRednek: I don't think archive.org uses an IBM mainframe... [23:34] http://spook.ucc.asn.au thats me looking smug with a laptop [23:34] that's IO bound; not cpu bound [23:34] heh [23:34] and by smug i mean hugely hung over [23:34] sitwon, no, it uses a beowulf [23:35] lol [23:35] hhh young lub [23:35] anyway [23:35] back to wget [23:35] ya think -i is enuf? [23:35] spook: lol [23:35] Quiznos: so you don't want to DOWNLOAD Google, you just want to QUERY Google... [23:35] yes [23:35] wget -spider [23:36] you don't need wget to query google [23:36] nop; spider rm's file after got; that's for filling a proxy [23:36] i dont have one setup [23:36] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:36] curl [23:36] what about it? [23:37] something perlish. surely theres a perl library to do what you want [23:37] i dont knit [23:37] YaKuake is simply amazing :D [23:37] sitwon, an ibm mainframe's processor has better parallel io than a beowulf could hope for [23:37] deco: combine it with screen + irssi :D [23:37] spook: after that delicious wine you indulged? [23:37] brb [23:37] fire|bird: :D [23:37] you keep pondering [23:38] MLanden: i finished the bottle and about 4 beers last night [23:38] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "there are many places i want to be, luckily here is one of them" [23:38] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [23:39] spook: hear ya [23:39] compmstr (n=corey@74.185.8.197) left irc: "leaving" [23:39] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:41] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:42] MLanden, i'll be happy to say that i've relieved myself multiple times since we last spoke [23:42] but have more waiting [23:44] Usually happens that way,jeev [23:44] well i asked #wget for someth, they're asleep [23:45] Quiznos: same for vim and emacs [23:45] either they're asleep or they just seen you coming. :P [23:45] nods [23:45] i do have that effect; but they miss out by ignoring; i'm pretty good with idears(TM) [23:45] just not good with spelling or grammar [23:46] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@173.60.119.54) joined ##slackware. [23:46] pffiffle; i told you last night about that [23:46] emacs answer: C-h t [23:46] spelink errors ARE a form of communications [23:46] and sarcasm, and punnage. [23:47] hackedhe1d (n=hackedhe@pool-71-164-65-30.albyny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:47] deco must be a $TZ thing contrary to us [23:49] Nick change: hackedhe1d -> hackedhead_ [23:49] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:49] Nick change: hackedhead_ -> hackedhead [23:50] elderK (n=elderK@222-152-99-143.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "Leaving..." [23:50] Quiznos: could be :P [23:50] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:50] suid0_ (n=suid0@c951b29c.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:51] google has all kinds of "mirror" protection too. their satellite images come to mind [23:51] huh? [23:51] farchanjo (n=Brazil@187-24-14-165.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:51] you mean they block mirroring ? [23:51] why not just use w3m or elinks to -dump a google search query? [23:52] could make a simple bash script for that [23:52] yes, they have a rather "smart" ip blocker setup [23:52] oh [23:52] lynx --dump url [23:52] y0 Rat409 [23:52] hey fire|bird [23:53] Rat409, lynx is good but it outputs more references than anything else [23:53] could probably lo [23:53] elinks too, but that's not a prob; that's good [23:53] ok at it [23:53] suid0_ (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Client Quit [23:53] Quiznos, elinks has a -no-refernce switch, same as w3m. That's why I suggested them. [23:53] got conky weather looking decent but seems my router had heatstroke today,been on 24/7 5+ years tho [23:53] nods [23:54] why use lynx -dump when you can use curl? [23:54] suid0_ (n=suid0@c951b29c.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:54] rat clean out dust [23:54] hiptobecubic duno [23:54] on that note [23:54] i'm off to bed [23:54] night all [23:54] gn [23:54] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [23:54] dive: good to know i just use it for a couple things tho [23:55] night hiptobecubic [23:55] Quiznos, and if you are using a terminal that supports opening links in browser like urxvt, terminal etc even better [23:55] gn [23:55] gnight hiptobecubic [23:55] nods [23:55] still trying to figer out how to grab flv via wget [23:56] mrxvt can alsowget -c url.flv? [23:56] suid0_ (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Client Quit [23:56] suid0_ (n=suid0@c951b29c.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:56] Rat409 what? [23:56] Rat409: so what's your conky look like now then, get it all nice and configured how you want? [23:56] mrxvt is a term? [23:57] Quiznos: yes [23:57] a terminal [23:57] just wget -c the full url to file [23:57] not a web getter? [23:57] alsowget: command not found [23:57] oh [23:57] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:57] typo [23:57] rat nibble down those fat claws of yours [23:57] lol [23:57] fire|bird: yuh i sec [23:59] fire|bird: http://omploader.org/vMjV6Zw [23:59] suid0_ (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:00] suid0_ (n=suid0@c951b29c.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [00:00] --- Mon Aug 17 2009