[00:00] just joking, good night [00:00] pi31415 (n=chatzill@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042315]" [00:01] i thought after 12est it was nsfw =) [00:01] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.74.151) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:09] Lexus1 (n=BastionH@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [00:09] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:09] yxz97 (n=yxz97@201.194.46.86) joined ##slackware. [00:09] Hey Rat409 [00:09] hey firebird619 [00:10] How's it going? [00:10] hi guys [00:10] good thanks [00:10] hey Lexus1 [00:14] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.242) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:17] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:18] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.153.141.202) joined ##slackware. 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[00:29] liol? laughing inside out loud? :P [00:30] sure whatever fits you mate [00:30] lol [00:30] TLinton_ (n=TLinton_@ip98-165-108-220.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:31] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@187.5.193.169) left irc: Client Quit [00:31] morning all [00:32] hi frullet [00:32] Arenics (n=Administ@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [00:32] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.153.141.202) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:32] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:33] TLinton (n=TLinton_@ip98-165-98-57.ph.ph.cox.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:33] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:33] heya frullet, how's it going? [00:33] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:34] strawberries cheese and beer [00:34] it's snack time [00:34] nice. [00:35] =) [00:35] i drinked beer yesterday after passing an exam:) [00:35] so it was a celebratory drink? [00:36] somerehere knows how to NETCAT as a portscanner ? or send an UDP pack ? [00:36] something like that =) [00:36] how to use* [00:36] firebird619: doing well yourself mate [00:36] frullet: doing great, thanks. [00:37] Arenics: hping would be easier to use [00:37] antiwire: I'm on public shell account, there is only NC [00:37] heh [00:38] why and who would you want to portscan [00:38] we support hacking. tell us [00:38] (: [00:38] nmap -sS -O -P0 jeev [00:38] well there is nc and netcat proper [00:38] robert0 [00:38] they are two different tools [00:38] and 5-card stud [00:38] rob0: Ive no nmap [00:38] I ate Arenics' nmap [00:39] jeev: I'm just studing [00:39] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-110-253.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:40] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:41] Arenics: I'm pretty sure you are actually going to need a different tool to craft the packets you are trying to create [00:41] i think i need to stop eating as much. [00:41] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [00:41] you can use nc on each end along with pipes to move data [00:41] antiwire: yah [00:41] I can remove opera, if you'd like [00:41] other than that you can use nc to connect to ports [00:41] I cant get audio out of firefox flash, same with opera. Any help? [00:42] ignore that first line [00:42] the nc man page even has example [00:42] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [00:42] antiwire: I can use an simple telnet client to connect to ports, but nc goes beond it [00:42] I understand this [00:42] it can read and right packs [00:43] do you know how to speak http? [00:43] I'm reading it know [00:43] now* [00:43] do you know how to speak ftp? if you know the protocol you can do it. [00:43] if you know what to speak you can use nc to do what you want [00:43] antiwire: I don't know, but I can guide myself by RFCs [00:43] you know [00:43] yeah, I know. [00:43] =) [00:44] so why are you asking us then? [00:44] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-136-17.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:44] if you can decipher an RFC nc should be cake [00:45] antiwire: like i told to jeev, I'm studing, studing the possiblities, I really don't know how to do this kind of thing [00:47] I've finished to read that NC can be uses as a port scanner, should I write a script for it work as one like nmap ? or is there an option to scan an range of ports ? [00:47] used* [00:47] alpha213 (n=alpha@cpe-72-183-217-40.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:49] dude really. [00:49] if you read it you'd see it [00:49] polatov (n=polatov@213.211.101.184) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:49] my english is crappy =( [00:49] it takes time [00:49] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:49] nc -v -w 2 -z target_ip portrangeinhyphennotation [00:49] that's all [00:50] antiwire: I'm your fan XD [00:50] alpha213 (n=alpha@cpe-72-183-217-40.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [00:50] polatov (n=polatov@213.211.101.184) joined ##slackware. [00:51] uniond (n=uniond@75-120-150-69.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:51] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "leaving" [00:51] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [00:53] how this is hilarious "If you build netcat with GAPING_SECURITY_HOLE defined, you can use it as an "inetd" substitute to test experimental network servers..." [00:53] how/wow [00:53] Hey Guys, I need a little help. I'm trying to setup my WMP300N network adapter with ndiswrapper. I installed ndiswrapper, ran ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf, ndiswrapper -l to make sure it worked. Then I ran modprobe ndiswrapper and added /sbin/modprobe ndiswrapper to rc.modules. But when I run iwconfig i get no wireless extensions [00:54] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-74-161.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:55] polatov (n=polatov@213.211.101.184) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:56] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.27.106) joined ##slackware. [00:56] i need to find a cartoonist [00:56] uniond: have you kernel wireless adapter module suporte ? [00:56] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.153.19.83) joined ##slackware. [00:57] i should i installed the full slackware 12.2 dvd [00:57] when i type iwconfig shouldnt it say wlan0? [00:57] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.27.106) left irc: Connection reset by peer [00:57] cause it says eth0 [00:58] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [00:58] uniond: w8 [00:58] ok [01:01] Gah.. suPHP. I am trying to upgrade my wordpress using the built in upgrade feature. Well, it fails. What i can find so far is that you need suPHP to do it. Okay, so i got suPHP and htscanner from SBo. I've added the include line for suPHP and removed the mod_php include in httpd.conf [01:01] landy (n=hehe@59.92.208.35) joined ##slackware. [01:02] vaibhav (n=hehe@59.92.208.35) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:02] in my vhost for my site i've added "suPHP_UserGroup learnix learnix" under the option like it asks. When i restart my website, it tells me "Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL extension which is required by WordPress." [01:02] Which, it is there. [01:03] Nick change: yht|pulang -> Yudha_HT [01:04] nc: connect to 189 [01:04] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:04] nc: connect to 189.70.230.24 port 9000 (tcp) failed: Permission denied [01:04] When i remove that line from the vhost configuration, i get an internal server error. [01:06] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:06] komesti (n=komesti@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [01:07] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:07] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:08] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:08] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left ##slackware. [01:08] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:09] argh [01:09] thunderbird doesn't support digest-md5.. wth [01:09] Hey Dominian [01:10] nfermat (n=nfermat@unaffiliated/nfermat) joined ##slackware. [01:10] sup [01:10] Ah sweet, figured it out. Just needed to add the configpath to the vhost as well. [01:10] a brand new row of servers right outside of my window [01:10] hey Dominian [01:10] Dominian: nothing much, just checking this out: http://linux.com/archive/feature/146613 [01:10] yourself? [01:12] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:12] Dominian: from http://kb.mozillazine.org/Connection_errors_-_POP3---Thunderbird supports GSSAPI, Kerberos, CRAM_MD5, DIGEST-MD5, NTLM, and APOP. NTLM is also called Secure Password Authentication (SPA) or Windows Integrated Login. [01:12] Is that what you're looking for? digest-md5? [01:12] aye.. I know all that.. [01:12] however apparently thunderbird doesn't like my implentnation of it [01:13] cram-md5 works [01:14] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-129-179.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [01:14] oh.. DUH! [01:15] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-154.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:15] good evening geeks [01:16] Dominian: another head desk moment? [01:16] evenin dtanner [01:17] alisonken1noc: sort of [01:17] I forgot to enable digest-md5 in dovecot [01:17] im gonna play some eduke so i can practice for when firebird619 kicks my ass one day [01:17] but even after I ddi and restarted.. still not working [01:18] dtanner: haha. :) [01:18] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:18] hmm - more config fun [01:18] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [01:19] I guess I can use cram-md5... [01:19] argh [01:20] neonflux_^ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-165-97.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:20] Nick change: neonflux_^ -> neonflux [01:20] imap-login: Login: user=, method=CRAM-MD5 [01:20] nfermat (n=nfermat@unaffiliated/nfermat) left ##slackware. [01:20] woot [01:22] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [01:25] Arenics (n=Administ@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: "ploc... ploc... ploc... pl...crack!!! NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo !!!...." [01:28] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [01:29] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:29] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:30] I need a bit of help, Basicaly i installed ndiswrapper and my driver ndiswrapper shows it installed but when i run iwconfig wlan0 doesnt even show up lscpi doesnt show my wireless adapter either [01:30] Is it a PCI adapter? [01:31] yes [01:31] i had it working in 12.1 [01:31] but i formatted and installed 12.2 and can't get it working [01:32] uniond: ssb loading first blocks ndiswrapper,try rmmod ssb rmmod b43 if there then modprobe ndiswrapper [01:32] komesti (n=komesti@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:32] make sure the wifi's switched on [01:32] the wifi is switched on [01:32] and i already did modprobe ndiswrapper [01:33] if ssb loaded 1st ndiswrapper won't work [01:33] how can i disable ssb [01:33] blacklist ssb? [01:33] you can but ftm just rmmod ssb [01:34] rmmod ndiswrapper then modprobe ndiswrapper [01:34] sorry i'm not sure what rmmod is [01:34] remove module [01:34] kernel module == unload the module [01:35] mines a bcm4311 rev02 [01:36] ok [01:36] had this prob in every distro i've used where the b43,b44 native didn't work and i had to use ndiswrapper [01:36] or bcm43xx didn't work as kernel versions/architectures changed [01:38] sir yo are a genious [01:38] no just googled a while back [01:38] :) [01:38] i added blacklist ssb to modprobe.d/blacklist [01:38] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:39] ive been googling all night [01:39] yes i do too [01:39] just didn't even think about that [01:39] added that restarted and bam [01:39] there it is [01:39] i learned the hard way too :) [01:39] glad its worked for you [01:39] well thank you sir [01:39] gonna be on time for school today ! gonna be on time ! [01:40] uniond: very welcome [01:42] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:43] another quick question where can i edit the config file for iwconfig been a while since i had to do this [01:43] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:45] polatov (n=polatov@213.211.101.184) joined ##slackware. [01:47] umm /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [01:47] iirc [01:48] on time, /me on time ! \o/ [01:48] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [01:49] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-198.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [01:51] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:58] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Connection timed out [02:02] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.32.61) joined ##slackware. [02:05] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:06] lol obviously i forgot what i'm doing i can't seem to setup my connection. i set the info in rc.inet1.conf and wpa_supplicant.conf but when i run iwconfig wlan0 its not showing any of my info [02:07] lol [02:07] uniond: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 wlan0_restart [02:09] if that doesn't work, what are ifconfig and iwconfig showing you? [02:12] iwconfig wlan0 IEEE 802.11g ESSIDoff/any Nickname "E1" [02:12] its not using my essid [02:13] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:14] i tried setting it with iwconfig wlan0 essid T1000 too [02:14] still didn't work [02:15] uniond, which card do you have? [02:15] eelriver (n=eelriver@67.102.106.32) joined ##slackware. [02:15] wmp300n [02:15] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl12-104-191.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [02:16] iwlist wlan0 scan shows my network [02:18] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:20] uniond, what if you try and get a new kernel? you could install the one from -current (assuming you're on 12.2) and see how it goes. [02:21] hi [02:21] i am on 12.2 but i would rather get this thing to keep my info lol [02:22] uniond, i mean, get the kernel package from -current, get the xz package (the new compressor), unpack the kernel and copy it to /boot. make a new entry in lilo.conf and boot it. you can always reverse the operation if it doesn't work. [02:22] oh i see [02:22] alright ill try [02:23] brb [02:23] uniond (n=uniond@75-120-150-69.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:24] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl12-104-191.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Saindo" [02:25] night all [02:25] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). 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[02:50] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:51] Guest46355 (n=nick@c-75-71-58-7.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:51] oh this is wonderful news http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090415141210.htm [02:51] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:51] lets mix that with something really nasty like AIDs [02:52] so you have not only a polymorphic human virus but a polymorphic stealth virus [02:52] whoa, that's insane. [02:52] gg [02:53] muzz2k (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: [02:54] I tried to install slackware from hard disk booting with a cd, but my slackware directory is on a lvm partition. I use pvscan, vgscan, lvscan and it finds my lvm partition but it's not in /dev and the boot cd hasn't rc.udev script to restart udev. Is there another way to mount lvm partition with a slack cd ? [02:54] Thom1: did you read the README_LVM.txt? [02:55] oops, I forgot it :} [02:55] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/README_LVM.TXT [02:55] it might have some tips [02:55] hopefully [02:56] thanks [02:56] midnight_sun (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [02:57] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LCaRqQ8Qf8 [02:57] wild. [02:57] mornin [02:58] what up tewmten [02:58] chillin [02:59] drinking coffee smoking cigarettes [02:59] gonna go to work soon [03:00] hehe [03:00] Dominian: that was fun - had to replace a raid card in a supermicro [03:01] sup with you guys? [03:01] laying in bed [03:02] [in bed] [03:02] nice [03:02] about to try for some dreamland time [03:02] working on servers, running cables on new racks, usual stuff [03:05] yeah i have to install two PE1950 today at work [03:05] Guest46355 (n=nick@c-75-71-58-7.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "[BX] Check out the sexy BitchX pr0n at http://127.0.0.1/bx-pron.html" [03:05] gonna be new mysql servers [03:06] "The Slackware installer will recognize and activate any pre-existing [03:06] Logical Volumes on your hard drive(s)." [03:06] It doesn't with my pc [03:07] I mean... it will not [03:07] maybe you need more jiggawatts [03:08] any one look like mr clean [03:08] for anyone who cares, the new opera announcement is unite.opera.com [03:08] Hey nix_chix0r [03:08] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:08] nullm0dem (n=nullm0de@65-183-140-221-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net) joined ##slackware. [03:08] hi firebird619 sup [03:08] tewmten: gigawatts if you're referring to Dr. Brown :) [03:08] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:09] nix_chix0r: nothing much, just reading about the new opera announcement and working on e-mail stuff. yourself? [03:09] alisonken1noc, dr Brown say gigowatt instead of gigawatt :D (I've seen the movie last week) [03:10] Thom1: ok - been a decade or so since I saw Dr. Brown :) [03:10] not sure [03:11] my day went sour when the copy machine was not scanning my stuff in to the server [03:11] that sucks [03:11] alisonken1noc: I SAID JIGGAWATTS!! [03:11] :p [03:11] my day (starting last night) went sour when Kontact started eating my e-mail. [03:12] nix_chix0r: ^^ [03:12] quote from an article about installing windows on a toshiba laptop: "However, it then began a series of unbelievably slow installation processes that make installing Gentoo on a Pentium II appear speedy." [03:12] bollocks [03:12] tewmten: sounds too much like what guys like to watch as the girls jog by [03:12] It at the e-mail to the point it was stripped. No headers, no body, no nothing. [03:12] s/at/ate/ [03:12] indeed [03:12] y0 tewmten, how are you doing? [03:13] firebird619: hi [03:13] im doing okay [03:13] nix_chix0r: The good thing is, I got all my mail salvaged. [03:14] j0z (n=LINUX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: "just for today" [03:15] well 2 hours before the end of my shift i had to dismantle dropped files [03:16] some files had 200+ pages [03:16] and the scanner was eating them [03:16] yikes [03:16] nvision (n=nvision@g229076196.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [03:16] cursing to myself [03:16] lol, at least it wasn't out loud. :P [03:16] that and it's probally becuase it was monday and nothing ever goes right [03:17] maybe tomorrow you'll have better luck. :) [03:17] oh i'm sure [03:17] iclebyte_ (n=jamie@82.112.155.22) joined ##slackware. [03:17] the week flies by after monday for me [03:17] iclebyte (n=jamie@82.112.133.223) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:18] same here, it seems like time flies so fast. One minute it's Monday, the next Friday and you're like, whoa where'd the time go. (or week go for that matter) [03:18] think this weekend i'm going to the cities to grab few1tb of data and transfer it onto mine for my media pc, then take the kid to his grandpas for 2 generations of fathers day [03:18] hah ya right, more like one minute its friday, the next minute it's monday and you're like, where the eff did my weekend go [03:19] haha [03:19] Axius (n=samyw@92.82.92.34) joined ##slackware. [03:19] nix_chix0r: cool. Sounds like a good weekend you got planned. [03:19] SiegeX, yeah it all flies by because my weekends are always jammed pack of stuff i couldn't accomplish in the week. and keeping up with the house [03:19] then it's monday over again [03:19] hey in cfdisk where is the fastest part of the hard drive? is it beginning or end? (I know it's the innermost part of the platter but i don't know if cfdisk calls that the beginning or the end) [03:20] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [03:20] My guess would be beginning. It's the beginning of the drive that's the fastest, I would assume cfdisk would follow that, but I'm not sure. [03:21] ok [03:22] nix_chix0r: depends on the drive - some of them use speed control to keep consistent times across the platter [03:22] im pretty sure its the outer tracks due to angular velocity [03:22] the outer tracks have to cover more distance in the same time the inner tracks do, therefore its angular velocity is higher [03:22] hard drive speed mostly stays the same [03:22] and at the inner part of the platter there's less seek distance (all other things being equal) [03:22] that is true, its nothing substantial, if even noticible [03:23] the other trick is to vary the density at the different tracks to pack more info in the outer tracks [03:23] guess it depends on where the drive head is parked [03:23] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:24] bbl [03:24] TwinReverb: besides, cfdisk just creates the partition information - not the filesystem or layout [03:25] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.32.61) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:26] typically, I create (from the hub or beginning, to the edge or end): /boot, /, swap, /usr or /home [03:26] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:26] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:30] that message thats played on a new bash prompt (I know its fortune), but what file controls that? [03:32] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:36] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.153.19.83) left irc: "leaving" [03:36] alisonken1noc, just asking [03:37] stealth-, /etc/profile.d/fortune* [03:37] actually /etc/profile.d/bsd-games-login-fortune.sh [03:40] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-28-134.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "fui" [03:43] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.26.45) joined ##slackware. [03:44] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [03:45] TwinReverb: so, its the kernel that tells it to do that and not /etc/motd? [03:45] Action: init[1] greets all the slackers :) [03:45] it's not the kernel that tells it to post fortunes [03:45] it's simply a login script [03:45] located where? [03:46] Im still reading slackbook :P [03:46] /etc/profile.d/bsd-games-login-fortune.sh [03:46] ohhhhh, okay. Sorry, I didnt really read what you wrote when you posted that. I thought you were giving me the location of the fortune program itself [03:46] thanks for explaining that to me [03:46] no problem [03:47] to find the location of a program you type "which foo" where foo is the program [03:47] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [03:47] /usr/games/fortune [03:47] k [03:48] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:48] TwinReverb: np [03:51] TwinReverb: remember, that only works if the program is in your $PATH [03:51] otherwise, you have to use slocate or find [03:51] true [03:51] but if it's your computer you have root so you should be able to find anything you want 8-) [03:51] :_) [03:52] hmm [03:52] your nose fell down [03:52] yep [03:53] been replacing raid card in one system and installing ethernet cables in a new rack in another cage [03:56] i wonder if there's a way to create a user on a machine whose /home never saves information past the current login [03:56] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-129-179.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:56] TwinReverb: several - what do you have in mind? [03:56] not having to use tmpfs (1GB RAM is all this machine has0 [03:56] er has) [03:56] local login, not ssh [03:57] cli, gui, or both? [03:58] graphical only [04:00] modify /etc/X11/xdm/TakeConsole to include removing the user's home directory stuff [04:00] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left ##slackware ("init 0"). [04:00] Nick change: _capone -> capone [04:01] alisonken1noc, i don't want to make it system wide [04:02] TwinReverb: don't have to - you can add an option in either the password file or create a text file to check for which uses to _not_ remove /home data [04:02] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.26.45) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:02] or - flipside is create a text file to use to list which user's get their home directory cleaned on exit [04:02] ~/.bash_logout might be a good place to start [04:02] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.25.221) joined ##slackware. [04:03] or add a group called "cleanhome" and add the people to that group [04:03] SiegeX: only works if you're not removing the whole /home/ directory to ensure you clean up after them [04:03] q/win 33 [04:04] some users can get sneaky and find out about hidden files :) [04:04] alisonken1noc: iw as thinking on a script using find on ~ and then skipping predetermined files [04:04] *i was [04:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [04:05] easier to just rm -rf /home/, then creat the home directory from /etc/skel (or whatever directory skeleton you want to create for them) [04:06] ~/.bash_logout would still be a good place to initiate that. just have ~/.bash_logout be put back in the process [04:06] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:07] SiegeX: as long as the user has bash/bash clone specified for their shell - some people use other shells [04:07] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [04:09] everyone uses bash! [04:10] not everyone [04:10] I use zsh. :) [04:10] everything begins with an "E" [04:10] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.129) joined ##slackware. [04:11] y0 slackytude. unite.opera.com :D [04:11] That's the new service. [04:11] Thom1 (n=Thom1@75.118.87-79.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.3" [04:11] Also, a new snapshot. :D [04:11] and a good morning to you [04:11] Action: slackytude waves [04:12] gonna check it out [04:12] slackytude: How's it going? [04:13] at uni now, doing fine [04:13] altho I have no hope [04:13] how about you? [04:13] High_Priest (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-66d043d924d1d82b) joined ##slackware. [04:13] doing excellent, thanks. [04:13] hi [04:13] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: "Bye!" [04:13] hi slackytude, firebird619:) how you guys doing? can't sleep tonight. too much on my mind. [04:14] y0 High_Priest, hitest [04:14] :) [04:14] hitest, that doesnt sound fun. I hope its nothing serious? [04:15] hitest, Im doing fine, altho Im at my finals-are-close panik [04:15] hey hitest, doing excellent, thanks. Just checking out opera's new snapshot complete with Opera Unite. :D [04:15] nah, I'm okay. I just have insomnia sometimes. I'll sleep like a rock tomorrow. [04:15] yeah, I used to have that as well [04:15] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:15] funny, now you say it I realize it didnt bother me for some rime now [04:15] firebird619: cool. Opera Unite? now version? [04:16] new [04:16] new snapshot, still beta. unite.opera.com [04:16] ah, ty [04:16] yw [04:16] hitest: from the little bit I read it just seems like their answer to Google Wave. Opera 10 is still no closer now than before... [04:16] I'm a HUGE opera advocate, so I love it. :D [04:17] and Google Wave merely looks like their answer to Facebook... [04:17] LSD\: ty. sounds interesting [04:17] nullm0dem (n=nullm0de@65-183-140-221-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:17] firebird619: ive been using opera off and on over the past few days [04:17] firebird619: its alright [04:17] firebird619: it sucks at blocking ads [04:17] LSD`: Opera 10 has a long way to go yet until final release, They're just in beta, and beta is when the new features are added. [04:17] icarus: use AdSweep? [04:18] icarus, use privoxy [04:18] icarus: I've been using opera since it still used Ads, i.e. pre-version 7 days. [04:18] I like how Opera decided to take a hint from firefox and use tabs [04:18] firebird619: I'd play around with it but they insist on maintaining seperate settings which is annoying [04:18] SiegeX: Opera had tabs before firefox did. [04:18] SiegeX, opera was the first to introduce tabs, imho [04:19] LSD`: separate settings? [04:19] Opera: making confusing GUIs for 15 years [04:19] who insists. [04:19] or [04:19] Opera made me immune to web ads. With one exception (that even the lauded AdBlock Plus can't deal with), they just don't bother me [04:19] Opera: Making DVORAK GUIs for 15 years [04:19] heh i know, thought id just troll a bit. [04:19] firebird619: If you install an Opera beta it creates seperate, new settings for that. It doesn't even offer to import your old ones. [04:20] slackytude: s/imho/iirc/ [04:20] Zordrak, aye [04:20] Zordrak, morning [04:20] and he did rrc [04:20] wornen [04:20] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("()"). [04:20] is Opera 10 got support for Socks5 proxies? [04:20] *rc [04:20] LSD`: I like Opera....especially in FreeBSD. FF segfaults too much in FreeBSD. [04:20] LSD`: you use a alpha, beta, etc. It *automatically* uses your old .opera config unless *you* start it from cli and specify to use a different directory. [04:21] everyone wants the same thing... [04:21] hitest: I've been using Opera for 10 years :P [04:21] nice [04:21] does anybody still use chrome [04:21] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.25.221) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:21] a750mhzslinky, no, use sockify or however its called [04:21] the featureset of firefox, the stability and portability of opera and the supported site base of IE [04:21] really, no socks5? [04:21] tsocks [04:21] given the lack of that option.. i choose FF [04:21] works fine with tsocks [04:22] I can't stand Firefox, I'd much sooner use IE [04:22] i wouldn't use IE if you paid me [04:22] TwinReverb: That's how I feel about FF :P [04:22] LSD`: I consider that a very juvenile opinion [04:23] Zordrak: FF is my first choice in Linux and Winders.....altho I never use winders. [04:23] but it's yours to have [04:23] Zordrak: The reality is I wouldn't use either of them as my main browser but if for some reason I was forced to choose between them and only them, FF just wouldn't get my vote [04:25] while i disagree this is no time or place for BrowserWars... so bleh [04:25] real men browse with tcpdump and hping [04:26] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [04:27] Well, time to get going. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening everyone. Take care. :) [04:27] see you firebird619 [04:27] see ya hitest, take care. [04:28] :) [04:28] later slackytude [04:28] see ya [04:28] :) [04:28] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving..."). [04:33] juice__ (i=juice@ice-cold.net) joined ##slackware. [04:34] Nick change: juice__ -> juice2 [04:35] rain storms are nuts tonight [04:39] later folks.....going back to sleep:) [04:39] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:39] i like rain when you dont have to drive in it [04:42] slackytude: People have been approaching me from all across the galaxy saying "is that you ???" on the front page of noobfarm. [04:42] heh [04:42] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) joined ##slackware. [04:47] slackytude: damn, you're hot! http://www.noobfarm.com/ [04:47] SiegeX, huh? [04:47] SiegeX, Im hot! [04:49] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) joined ##slackware. [04:50] m0nik3r5 (n=sluttySu@c-67-183-212-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:50] hi [04:51] SiegeX: were you trying to link to noobfarm, or just liked the picture on that search engine? :) [04:55] Hermann (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [04:56] Nick change: iclebyte_ -> iclebyte [04:58] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c530ee19c6f21889) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [04:59] I must be losing it - only 4 posts on noobfarm [05:03] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [05:04] j0z (n=JESUS@187.6.159.82) joined ##slackware. [05:04] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left ##slackware. [05:05] j0z (n=JESUS@187.6.159.82) joined ##slackware. [05:07] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-157-185.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:08] abing (n=abing@218.94.136.179) left irc: "leaving" [05:08] Heya,folks...How's everyone? [05:08] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:10] god damn stressed [05:10] 'Bout what,Zodrak? [05:11] Sorry, who? [05:11] Action: Zordrak shows MLanden the Tab button [05:12] Zordrak: sorry on the typo [05:12] i have been trying to replace the mailserver [05:12] its a big big kob [05:12] *job [05:12] I am alone here [05:13] havent had the chance due to other commitments [05:13] CEO says i now have a month to reduce spam by about 80% and if its not on a new server i wall have to make it happen on the olrd server [05:13] which would be insane [05:14] rhys (n=rhys@cpe-65-25-100-45.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [05:14] so its basically a get it done or else ultimatum for putting in the new server like yesterday [05:14] but at the same time without causing disruption [05:14] So.. I'm stressed [05:15] fun [05:17] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:17] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:19] jota- (n=jota@190.6.6.247) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:20] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431443.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:20] Zordrak: That is a big job...sorry to hear of your predicament [05:21] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@CPE-58-165-93-206.qld.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [05:21] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl12-104-191.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:22] vaibhav (n=hehe@59.92.208.35) joined ##slackware. [05:25] As of right now... everyone with a whining little IT request can FRO [05:26] Nothing knocks the server replacement off the top of my list. Not even fire. [05:29] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-110-253.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:30] Zordrak: Zen and HELO checks will take out the vast majority of spam, quite safely. [05:31] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431443.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:33] Zordrak, what MTA? [05:35] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [05:38] Im putting Postfix in [05:39] I have everything covered spam wise on postfix [05:39] i need a linux/unix sysadmin with php skills.. anyone looking for a job in amsterdam? :) [05:39] its the migration that hurts [05:39] e.g. im converting mbox to maildir (with reason).. im converting unix auth to ldap auth [05:39] im moving mailman [05:39] etcetc [05:40] Still, I'd say a month to do that is doable. [05:40] Zordrak: I just read an interesting noobfarm quote that you were the prominent player [05:40] k.. [05:40] (I know - it's been too long since I read noobfarm :) ) [05:41] http://noobfarm.org/?id=1488 starter: "< Chrishas_> i'm using open suse,wheres rc.modules?" [05:41] aye [05:41] kind needs an extra 50 lines of upward history [05:42] not surprised - but some people don't have a sense of proper placement. On the other hand - this IS noobfarm [05:43] has anyone had a simple experience migrating a live slack system onto swraid? [05:43] ive only ever bothered doing it from scratch [05:44] but i now dont have time to start the mailserver again [05:46] ckt1g3r_ (n=ckt1g3r@bl12-104-191.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:46] maybe use partimage to snapshot the filesystem_ [05:46] ? [05:46] actually found a decent minihowto [05:46] create a new array as "missing, sdb1" [05:46] Thom1 (n=Thom1@79.87.102.126) joined ##slackware. [05:46] copy data [05:46] *add sda1 [05:47] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:47] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl12-104-191.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:48] ocZio (n=chatzill@87-194-69-163.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:48] Hi all, is it possible to do something like this: whenever I access this IP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (which is internet, extranet) Is it possible to forward/redirect that to internal one something like 192.168.x.x ? [05:49] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) left irc: K-lined [05:51] yes [05:51] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [05:51] iptables port forwarding [05:52] destination NAT, see -j DNAT in an iptables howto/tutorial [05:52] ocZio: must it be IP based rather than DNS? [05:52] DNS would be a much easier method.. [05:52] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-110-253.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:52] yes IP based Zordrak [05:52] sometimes, indeed. [05:52] not DNS [05:53] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [05:53] sGun (n=s@ppp184-132.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:55] Axius (n=samyw@92.82.92.34) left irc: "Leaving" [05:56] Zordrak: gtg now, might be gone a couple days, but drop me a line if you get stuck in the antispam/MTA stuff. [05:57] rob0: aye.. ill be reet... postfix is easy [05:57] yup, good luck with the rest [05:57] comp_ (n=comp_@81.196.151.9) joined ##slackware. [06:03] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [06:05] Any recomendations on a good app to rip my DVDs to the Hard drive? lol [06:06] uh [06:06] rsync [06:06] dvd::rip [06:07] lol rsync dvd's isn't that kinda of an ugly way of doing things? I'll check that out juice2 :) thanks [06:09] ckt1g3r_ (n=ckt1g3r@bl12-104-191.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Client Quit [06:12] Yalla-One (n=yalla1@unaffiliated/yalla-one) joined ##slackware. [06:13] Anyone know how to grab a specific branch off git? apparently there is a specific displayport branch of the new intel driver, but I dunno how to grab it off freedesktop.org :S [06:14] dvd::rip has a ton and another one of dependencies. i once tried to setup it from sbo, but then i just gave up. [06:14] i built it all every package [06:15] everything worked in it even the optional crap [06:15] about 50 packs [06:15] good for you, juice2 :) i failed at it. [06:15] heh it tooks a while to do no doubt [06:15] s/tooks/took [06:17] vaibhav (n=hehe@59.92.208.35) left irc: [06:18] could try acidrip also [06:19] need to decide if 1024 is a small enough block sive for this mailserver [06:19] *size [06:19] 4096 definitely way too big [06:19] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-157-185.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [06:20] or do i just say fsck it and dump xfs on it instead [06:20] slKIvs (n=ivan@60.119.79.69.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:22] Action: ananke suggests xfs [06:24] xfs [06:24] jfs [06:24] :-) [06:24] xfs :) [06:24] does jfs support access control lists yet? [06:24] read something.. doesnt give much dehail.. suggesting ext3 unless you are running hwr with bbu [06:25] i kinda like that ext3 is just totally rock solid (imo) [06:25] juice2, I am pretty certain it does. [06:26] yeah I would say xfs is more prone to crashes/data lose on power loses than ext3 [06:26] wouldn't be in the kernel if it didn't [06:26] 'crashes'? [06:26] heh [06:26] I basically got caught ones with xfs and lost the entire filesystem (recovered from backup but still) so have used jfs ever since and never regretted it so far [06:27] okay it seems so back in the day jfs lacked that I believe [06:27] sod it.. time is of the essence im not rebuilding the kernel now for xfs.. ext3 will do just fine [06:27] most people who complain about 'losing xfs' filesystem are the people who don't know how to run xfs_repair [06:27] the only questin is just how low to take the block sive before it gets silly [06:27] *size [06:28] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) left irc: "adios amigos" [06:29] ananke that is probably true [06:30] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:30] ananke, I think the problem I had (was a while back...) was that it was on the / partition (which with hindsight was probably a mistake) and bootdisks and such did not include the xfs tools, [06:31] theres a lot to be said for standardisation [06:31] ArTourter : which would make any filesystem problematic [06:31] eg Acronis supports ext2/3... but not xfs [06:31] i remember older versions of tsm didn't support xfs [06:33] Zordrak : quick google shows that their enterprise product does support xfs [06:33] orite.. didnt before [06:33] afaik [06:33] ananke, true. my aversion to xfs is really a " catch me once , shame on you, catch me twice..." [06:34] one thing i do like about xfs is allocation groups. essentially xfs will take advantage of multiple processors [06:35] found a presentation [06:35] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: "Leaving" [06:36] says: mbox => ext3, Maildir => xfs... although ext3 with low blocksize & high inode to file ratio is good for maildir (and says consider recent xfs file corruption bug (2.6.17)) [06:37] yeah. each filesystem had a 'corruption bug' in 2.6.x series [06:37] still i think decision is well and truly made [06:38] if for nothing else than i am most familiar with ext3 [06:38] and its rock solid [06:39] i'll take the 'most familiar' argument. the rock solid one is debatable [06:39] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [06:39] Action: ananke recalls 'ext3 ate my kids' bugs [06:40] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.129) left irc: "Leaving" [06:40] zoran119 (n=zoran@220.233.169.154) joined ##slackware. [06:40] ext3 / 1024 blocks / data=writeback / considerind noatime [06:41] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@CPE-58-165-93-206.qld.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:41] i'd benchmark the smaller block size, before trying it [06:42] i would have thought smaller blocksize is a no brainer... when you consider i'll be using maildir and providing imap [06:42] not really. on the surface it may seem like a good idea, in practice it's another story [06:42] not to mention everyone and his brother from debian admins through to the guy from intels linux division say the same thing [06:43] ananke: what problems have you hit with a small block size? [06:43] you do take a performance hit on reading larger amount of data, and your inode table is four times bigger [06:44] that's why i recommend testing it, and making sure that it does meet your expectations [06:44] tbh i expect the highest IO to come from reading writing greylist tuples [06:45] Zordrak : so put those on tmpfs, and back them up to a normal filesystem every hour or so. [06:45] ananke: unfortunately i have little time for testing... its one of those situations where if i hit problems i can change the FS later.. i need to just make an educated decision and move on...... damn CEO [06:45] another recommended thing for greylisting optimization is to flush it to disk in longer intervals [06:45] *nod* [06:46] Action: Zordrak just had a lightbulb moment [06:46] cant work out if it's a stupid idea or the best idea anyone ever had [06:46] we've been lucky enough that over the last few years we really managed to force the use of proper dev/test/prod environments [06:47] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-183-173.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:47] Assumption 1: If you have a trusted store and forward backup MX you will get hit by massive amounts of spam that pick off backup MXes first [06:48] kjalil (n=kjalil@kerneljack.com) joined ##slackware. [06:48] Assumption 2: you dont have the option to configure the bagckup as someone else hosts it and therefore you are better off without it if you can 99% guarantee not to have the primary down for more than 4 hours or so [06:49] Idea: [06:49] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-183-173.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [06:49] umm, simple question, if I want gnome on slackware 12, should I get dropline gnome, or the gnomeslackbuild.org one? [06:49] i use dropline, but either one works [06:50] there is also gware,gslacky, and slackbot [06:50] Instead of removing the backup MX altogether.. use a dummy record. Some stupid mailbots may attempt the backup only and on fail give up.... [06:50] juice2: thanks [06:50] valid MTAs will icgnore it or use primary on backup fail [06:51] kjalil I would say try one if you don't like it try another [06:51] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.133.34.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [06:52] juice2: they are easy to remove once installed? [06:52] Zordrak : interesting idea, but i'm not sure whether it would help much in reducing the traffic [06:52] Zordrak: it has been done, I do it too ... it's called "nolisting" (a play on greylisting) [06:53] really depends on how many stupid bots are out there and how stupid they are [06:53] rob0: orite [06:53] and as you can see, I haven't been able to leave yet ... sigh [06:53] juice2: i just want to get gnome-terminal, really, don't need the whole of gnome... [06:53] so it IS a great idea... just someone had it before me :( ;) [06:53] it doesn't hurt much, only some really REALLY bad MTAs fail at it [06:54] unlike greylisting, which does hurt [06:54] oic... dead primary not dead backup [06:54] I do both IIRC [06:54] and as we all know, it's not the spam you let in that matters, but the legitimate e-mail that didn't get through :) [06:54] Nick change: Yudha_HT -> yht|pulang [06:54] 10 dead, 20 good, 30 dead? [06:54] we've been doing greylisting for the past two months, but _only_ on ips that are listed in rbls [06:55] MX 0 null , MX 10 real , MX 20 void [06:55] ananke: bah.. ceo ordered me to *drop* anything that beat a certain spam score in current config! [06:55] rob0: *nod* [06:55] targeted greylisting is a good idea too [06:55] rob0: i like it [06:55] rob0: targeted? [06:55] what ananke said [06:55] Zordrak : yeah, my example. we target only 'known spammers' [06:56] ananke: heh.. we reject RBL outright [06:57] well, I would reject Zen outright, not sure I want to do that with, say, spamcop or SORBS [06:57] Zordrak : we don't. we reject only if somebody is listed in multiple ones, i think minimum 3 [06:57] and we do add score for each [06:57] definitely something i will revisit later [06:57] https://almaren.vbi.vt.edu/mailscanner/spam/spam.html <- you can see the results of targetted greylisting [06:57] hi people, can someone tell me why screen doesn't display colors in ls output? [06:57] Action: Zordrak gets back to getting it going... and therefore ext3 tuning [06:58] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.67.122) joined ##slackware. [06:58] ananke: mailscanner eh? [06:58] zoran119, probably your $TERM setting [06:58] Zordrak : yep [06:59] ananke: why ws over amavisd? [06:59] *ms [06:59] rob0: echo $TERM gives xterm [06:59] Zordrak : because at the time, mailscanner offered more flexibility and features [06:59] rob0: what does screen want [06:59] ananke: does it still? [07:00] not to mention it saw features added much faster, and community support is great. including author's help [07:00] last time i did the research i think amawisd was the right choice.. but it was some time ago [07:00] hmm [07:00] Zordrak : it still fits our needs, but we haven't compared it to amavis in years [07:00] i wish i had more time to dedicate to all of this *before* deployment [07:00] Personally, I prefer amavisd-new with Postfix, Wietse and others on the mailing list strongly warn against mailscanner. [07:00] this is on our primary mx, which then forwards e-mail to our zimbra machine [that uses amavis] [07:00] *nod* [07:01] rob0: thatll prolly be why i picked it [07:01] so our primary mx is slackware, with mailscanner and sendmail. that forwards e-mails to our zimbra machine with amavis [07:01] I might try Maia Mailguard in the future, it's a fork of amavisd-new with more bells & whistles. [07:01] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.67.122) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:02] ananke, does the amavisd-new catch anything after mailscanner? [07:02] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [07:02] rob0 : not really, since my mailscanner setup is actually that good. [07:02] but it comes as part of zimbra, so we leave it on [07:03] ah [07:03] on my new rt system i'm going with postfix+amavis-new, mostly because that comes standard on suse [07:04] omg [07:04] why did i think the default ekt3 blocksize in slack was 4096 [07:04] oh [07:04] it is [07:04] wtf? [07:05] Action: Zordrak scratches head [07:06] Zordrak : i suggest you test for yourself the speed of reading/writing with various block sizes. dd is a quick way to do it :) [07:07] juice2 (i=juice@ice-cold.net) left irc: "later" [07:07] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [07:07] fsck it.. i can retune later.. im just gonna trust pat and fly with the defaults [07:07] time spent on this > time allocated to this [07:09] still... `mkfs.ext3 -O dir_index,resize_inode /dev/md0` :: block size: 1024 [07:09] even though the default is 4096 in /etc/mke2fs.conf.. [07:10] Those weren't decided by Pat, those are probably the ext3 developers' defaults. (But you know that.) [07:10] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A5AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [07:10] whoever chose them... why is it ignoring them? [07:11] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [07:11] must be the size of the partition [07:11] same command on md1 gives a 4096 BS [07:13] upyr[emacs] (n=emacs@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [07:16] for people using SBo, can you tell me what means lines for rc.INIT in doinst.sh script ? [07:16] Thom1: rtfm [07:16] already done [07:18] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-8a66d93ecd987c20) joined ##slackware. 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[07:29] the kernel developers [07:30] orite.. sorry i see `backport` and immediately assumeo you're talking about rhel *cough*hack*spit* [07:30] my wisdom stat is at max, now what? [07:32] a cloak and a wizard hat? [07:35] abhoriel_ (n=x@79-75-219-87.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [07:36] hi, my bouncer got banned: [07:36] * slackboy sets ban on *!*@*.at.shellium.org [07:36] * You have been kicked from ##slackware by slackboy (Banned: I hate badly written bots) [07:36] could someone fix that (ironically, badly written) script? [07:36] :) [07:37] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.15.85) joined ##slackware. [07:37] abhoriel_: ? [07:38] I normally connect to freenode via psybnc, but that script assumed that I was therefore a bot and banned me# [07:40] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.133.34.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: [07:41] Blaguvest (n=Blaguves@c-2da372d5.036-245-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. 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Any ideas what it might be about? [08:31] try logging out/logging in and see if it still does it? [08:32] alisonken1noc: Raid card died eh? [08:32] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:32] Dominian: big time LSI card failure: sd 0:2:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device [08:33] Aldaron, do pstree and see who the parent process of gxine is. [08:33] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:33] alisonken1noc: ouch [08:33] Dominian: But - the good news is I've got another rack halfway wired up :) [08:34] at least the card didn't take the disks out - was able to import foreign drives into the new card and bada-bing - data still there [08:35] nice [08:35] Do you guys use 3ware? [08:35] or all LSI? [08:35] or just depends? [08:35] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.90.6) joined ##slackware. [08:36] depends on what Silicon Mechanics ships with the server-du-jour that we get [08:36] some LSI, some 3-Ware [08:36] Dominian: using LSI.. but dont like it [08:36] heh [08:36] would buy 3ware if i had something to buy [08:36] 3-ware has the nicer cli tool, but LSI has been more stable for us [08:37] (mostly) [08:38] other_rafa (n=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) left irc: "Leaving" [08:39] slava_dp: that's a good idea. Too bad their parent is "init" [08:40] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431443.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:40] alisonken1noc: I'm quite sure it'd stop then, but can't log off right now [08:41] other_rafa (n=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) joined ##slackware. [08:41] Aldaron: do you have a webbrowser running? [08:41] alienBlurb (i=3351@64.57.102.34) joined ##slackware. [08:42] alisonken1noc: yes, firefox. That's what I am suspecting myself [08:42] fidesratio (n=fidesrat@80-42-241-176.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:42] oh how i love lilo's error screen [08:43] heh, maybe some webpage can't give up trying to play it's content :) [08:43] ..but, I did close all tabs that are in any way unusual. Maybe that doesn't stop the pages [08:43] isn't it lovely? [08:43] possibility that a webpage is trying to open a media file that has gxine as the interpreter [08:43] which in slackware w/firefox is the default iirc [08:43] about:plugins will tell you [08:43] Aldaron, just tell FF to restore your tabs on startup and close it off. [08:44] nheco (n=nheco@189-10-173-1.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:45] nothing like recycling the pages :) [08:47] anyone knows regexp? [08:47] only that he's an orphan [08:48] slackytude: sure [08:48] perhaps slightly rustily but still :) [08:48] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) joined ##slackware. [08:48] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:49] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: "init 0 -will be back" [08:50] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060214]" [08:50] Deiz (n=swh@unaffiliated/deiz) joined ##slackware. [08:50] ah, cool. http://linux.die.net/man/6/wtf [08:50] u2pian (n=guest@120.28.248.67) joined ##slackware. [08:50] why does it not ship with slackware [08:51] ? [08:51] I parsing a sql log [08:51] I need the line that contains "INSERT" and "12019" [08:51] u2pian (n=guest@120.28.248.67) left irc: "leaving" [08:52] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [08:52] grep 12019 | grep INSERT ? [08:52] oh it does. damn. [08:52] slava_dp: it is in the bsdgames package [08:53] oh [08:53] :P [08:53] yeah, vdvluc, thanks. [08:54] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left ##slackware ("init 0"). [08:54] Have any of you had issues with eject? [08:54] alisonken1noc, I wish I was using grep [08:54] but actually thats not a bad idea [08:55] Deiz, no. i even use it to eject usb flash drives :p [08:55] "eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device" when run as a user (Who's in the appropriate groups) [08:55] lucky it' not "not a typewriter" :) [08:55] slava_dp: sync.. [08:56] Zordrak, eject is supposed to do it. [08:56] or not? [08:56] Ooh. [08:57] I/O error when doing eject -T as root. [08:57] slava_dp: i just sync and pull [08:57] Zordrak, lol. you don't umount? [08:57] slava_dp: well yeah [08:58] Another symptom is that smplayer can't deal with the CD once it's in the drive; neither can totem, rhythmbox, Amarok. [08:58] Only program that manages to get a tracklist is VLC. [08:58] Deiz, iz u using gnome? o.o [08:59] Unfortunately, yes. Friend's system. [08:59] Action: slava_dp would take a guess at the system's name..... [08:59] CD device is in use by gvfsd-cdda [08:59] But that shouldn't matter, should it? [09:00] Actually, it should. [09:00] Killed it and eject worked. [09:03] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [09:05] Now to stop everything from mishandling it. [09:05] Totem gives an error, smplayer just hangs. [09:07] Stop [09:07] Hammer time [09:07] break it down [09:07] can't touch this [09:07] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:08] AARRRGGHH wvhy is it so god damn hard to install lilo on a raid that isnt currently booted?!?! [09:08] uhm [09:08] Because..how would it know about the raid information? [09:08] its usually best to keep a seperate partition just for /boot for that reason :P [09:09] A lot of raid levels force you to have a seperate /boot if its software raid [09:09] and then lilo will install its boot code to all drives in the array [09:09] straterra: yep [09:09] which anymore.. most of it is software raid hehe [09:09] which isn't bad per se... just a little crumbersome at times [09:09] The only exception I know of is raid 1 [09:09] As it doesn't matter [09:10] abhoriel_ (n=x@79-75-219-87.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:10] Well, when quantum computing starts taking effect... raid is going to take on a whole new meaning [09:12] it knows about the raid just fine [09:12] cause the raid is started and mounted [09:14] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:15] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b5bd2121f77ed9f6) joined ##slackware. [09:17] ok - catch you at the house [09:17] later man [09:17] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) joined ##slackware. [09:18] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:19] anyone here that has any good tips for combining irssi on a remote server over ssh with libnotify so that I get a popup message every time someone tries to pm me? [09:20] eh [09:20] is that even possible? [09:20] Miquel van Smoorenburg -- who is this guy? [09:20] does irssi *know* how to interface with libnotify? [09:22] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:22] thumbs (i=1000@24.200.141.179) joined ##slackware. [09:23] anshulk (n=chatzill@123.237.2.61) left irc: "bye" [09:24] he appears in the slackware scripts everywhere [09:25] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*.at.shellium.org expired. [09:25] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [09:26] I'll give this howto: http://hohwie.com/blog/?p=8 a try, and let you guys know how it works out [09:26] nvision (n=nvision@g229076196.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:26] nvision (n=nvision@g229076196.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [09:29] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.90.6) left irc: "Leaving" [09:29] thumbs (i=1000@24.200.141.179) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:30] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.90.6) joined ##slackware. [09:30] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.86.186) joined ##slackware. [09:35] errr [09:36] if dmesg output (boot) says "unable to open an initial console" .. shouldnt you expect something to fail? [09:36] yes [09:36] but.... [09:36] it doesnt [09:36] your TTY's get spawned? [09:36] yup [09:38] its well down the list too [09:38] right near the top: "console [tty0] enabled" [09:39] (13% down the output) [09:39] domn at 93%: "Warning: unable to open an initial console." [09:39] Warnings arent bad [09:39] then goes on to load device drivers and boot normally [09:40] they arent bad.. but they ARE worrying [09:40] esp when this is a yet-to-be-deployed mail server [09:40] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431443.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:40] heh, aye [09:40] definitely want to find out where its coming from [09:40] y0 Agiofws [09:41] /dev/console looks fine [09:41] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:41] google has it..... 1,820,000 pages [09:41] phuck ATI catalyst drivers [09:41] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-205-11.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:42] there we go.. [09:42] Action: tewmten has spent all aafternoon printing dilbert strips and decorating his office space [09:42] tewmten, nice :D [09:43] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:43] Zordrak, ^^ & http://kerneltrap.org/node/2205 [09:43] gtg, see you tomorrow everyone. [09:43] slava_dp: already got that open [09:44] other_rafa (n=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:44] Zordrak, looks like a kernel config problem to me. [09:44] ok, leaving.... [09:44] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [09:44] kernel is identical to another box.. so not thot [09:44] *that [09:46] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-192-81.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:47] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.82.161) joined ##slackware. [09:48] im milling to bet its something to do with duplicating the system onto the new raid with `cp -ax` -- but all the device nodes LOOK ok [09:48] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:50] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431443.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:51] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.15.85) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:52] bkt5401 (n=brian@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:52] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:53] in fact even a diffing the contents of dev between this and an identical but unraided machine looks fine [09:54] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:57] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: "If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph, you're gonna see some serious shit!" [09:59] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.41.13) joined ##slackware. [10:01] wtf [10:01] the good box has /dev/pts/ but theres nothing in it [10:01] the one with the warning has a "0" file in it [10:02] oh [10:02] i realise why [10:03] maxote (n=||||||||@84.79.67.254) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:03] did you change fstab ? [10:03] mlangdn (n=michael@72-4-62-30.customers.cinergycom.net) joined ##slackware. [10:03] checked that already [10:04] there is a /dev/pts line? [10:04] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl9-40.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [10:04] its identical to another raided box on 12.1 and only different in the actual partitons to a 12.2 unraided [10:04] yep [10:04] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.23.131) joined ##slackware. [10:04] then it's probably kernel related. [10:04] devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 [10:05] but the kernel is identical to the bok sat beside it [10:05] positive? [10:05] sQuEE (n=narya@host220.201-253-136.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [10:05] lemme diff the configs for a triple check [10:06] High_Priest (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-66d043d924d1d82b) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:06] AbortRet1yFail (n=arf@pool-71-122-88-2.tampfl.ftas.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:06] AbortRet1yFail (n=arf@pool-71-122-88-2.tampfl.ftas.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [10:07] confirmed.. the only difference is "CONFIG_LOCALVERSION" [10:07] AbortRetryFail (n=arf@pool-71-122-88-2.tampfl.ftas.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:07] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [10:08] is there any chance that theres a hard devnode missing... but i cant see it because after the warning udev creates it and destroys it on close? [10:12] othersn have reported that this can be caused by a cp [10:12] and that im gonna need to retransfer /dev using tar [10:12] ... [10:12] but i no longer have the original to do it with [10:13] sounds unlikely [10:13] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:13] http://kerneltrap.org/node/6854 [10:13] i do have backups [10:13] You could..just..recreate the dev nodes.. [10:13] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [10:13] maddslacker (n=cmaddock@173-8-57-89-Jacksonville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [10:14] straterra: .. [10:14] the whole tree? [10:14] No [10:14] WTF are you trying to do, anyway? [10:14] i micrated a slack12.2 into swraid1 [10:15] everything works.. except boot dmesg output spits the warning [10:15] What warning? [10:15] "Warning: unable to open an initial console." [10:15] You may be missing kernel support [10:16] Or the device nodes..you could just reinstall the package that populates the device nodes [10:16] been through that.. the kernel is identical to a bok next to it [10:16] zx10k1 (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) joined ##slackware. [10:16] straterra: thats what i was thinking.. some way to repopulate the whole tree [10:16] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.148.208) joined ##slackware. [10:18] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:18] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.26.107) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:19] not done that before... sthg like, init 1 then force reinstall of the devs pkg from a/ ? [10:19] Or boot a live cd [10:19] could use slack install disc fro that tbh [10:20] Plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: "Leaving" [10:20] That's what I was talking that [10:20] *nod* [10:21] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.41.13) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:22] Zordrak: i had the same problem when i tried LFS , what i did was to copy /dev/console to your root [10:22] that worked perfectly for me [10:23] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.12.110) joined ##slackware. [10:23] did you already have a /dev/console or was it missing? [10:23] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:24] Zordrak: it was missing . [10:24] it's not missing here [10:25] the only difference between the one on this and the one on an identical box is the modified date [10:25] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: [10:25] ooh .. Zordrak try to copying it ,are all the attribute same "crw------- 1 root root 5, 1 2009-06-16 19:14 /dev/console" [10:25] s/copying/copy [10:25] !$ [10:25] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-202-231.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [10:26] (which means see the previous line) [10:26] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [10:26] yea i know that .. $ mean last in regular expression [10:27] it in fact is *precisely* as youve pasted [10:27] Zordrak: are you trying a new kernel or now root filesystem ? ,as i came late i don't know what you are upto. [10:28] init[1]: i migrated into software raid1 [10:28] zx10k1 (n=nobody@unaffiliated/zx10k1) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:28] hmm.. [10:30] guys there is any how to about slacktrack usage? [10:31] dunno, I've never tried it [10:31] Zordrak: are bot kernel that same .. what youre booting and previously what you had ? [10:31] s/bot/bot [10:31] s/bot/both [10:32] the ONLY change is nonroid->raid [10:33] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b5bd2121f77ed9f6) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [10:33] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:35] Zordrak: this may make sense to you , im not familiar with RAID setup http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-raid@vger.kernel.org/msg04316.html [10:37] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-150-198.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:38] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.128.40) joined ##slackware. [10:38] seems the answer may just be as i thought (cp -ax omitted /dev) but it doesnt make sense that it's still there [10:38] im gonna re-install the devs package [10:38] cant hurt [10:39] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8f45c0ad4b5c0e84) joined ##slackware. [10:42] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8f45c0ad4b5c0e84) left ##slackware. 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[10:54] is xrandr getting the possible screen resolutions from xorg.conf ? because it doesn't want to support 1600x1280 on my external monitor ...on intel 945 [10:55] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [10:55] kunal_ (n=kunal@ppp-124-120-224-180.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined ##slackware. [10:55] hey...just a quick question. anyone here does pythin? [10:55] python? [10:57] or program [10:59] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [11:00] try #python [11:00] a few here mihgt [11:00] but you should really ask your question [11:01] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:02] thats the problem [11:02] #python requires registration [11:02] how do i register to it? [11:02] /msg nickserv help [11:03] and does the xinerama consider the primary monitor according to their sizes ? cause the primary one is automatically the external, the bigger one [11:03] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-134-221.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:04] thumbs (i=1000@24.200.141.179) joined ##slackware. [11:05] alrite [11:05] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: "init 0 -will be back" [11:06] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-202-231.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:07] sloin (n=d@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:07] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:09] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) joined ##slackware. [11:09] eelriver (n=eelriver@67.102.106.32) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:10] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431443.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[11:19] nheco (n=nheco@189-10-173-1.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [11:19] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431443.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:21] thumbs (i=1000@24.200.141.179) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:21] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:22] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:23] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:23] Action: Zordrak has frownstrain [11:23] Dull question time: what's the standard tool under linux for patching bins? [11:23] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.5.65) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:23] thumbs (n=avenger@24.200.141.179) joined ##slackware. [11:24] I can write one for the job at hand, but I'd rather use an existing tool. 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[11:36] caoliver: i was waiting for you to realise [11:37] It's just not a very common operation in comparison with source file patching, and it's a good way of shooting yourself in the foot, so perhaps it wasn't provided as a feature. [11:38] But I be wrong! Ugh! [11:38] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.173.137) joined ##slackware. [11:38] sloin (n=d@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) joined ##slackware. [11:39] Hermann (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:44] hmmmm, i wonder if mozilla will ever get MAPI support working in thunderbird [11:44] Apparently the new xorg segfaults when I use EXA with the openchrome driver. [11:45] ouch [11:45] I disabled the EXA option, but now KDE appears to hang while loading. [11:45] :| [11:45] does the driver support EXA? [11:46] It did previously. [11:49] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [11:49] kunal_ (n=kunal@ppp-124-120-224-180.revip2.asianet.co.th) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:49] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-165-97.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:51] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:51] I've disabled all of the options I had on, but KDE still hangs. [11:51] Ctrl+alt+backspace does nothing. [11:51] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:51] try a blank config? [11:52] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.129) joined ##slackware. [11:52] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [11:53] I'm looking through the process list, and X does not appear to be listed. [11:53] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.128.40) left irc: "Saindo" [11:55] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:56] i'm wondering if some stub of the xorg code is busted... [11:57] doot doot doot [11:58] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-24-35.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:58] Action: Necos pulls out the burna on jeev [11:58] Moved my existing xorg.conf and ran xorgsetup. [11:58] pfft [11:58] Still hangs while loading. [11:59] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [12:00] It might be KDE that's busted instead of Xorg...either way, it's irritating. [12:00] me no use the kde [12:01] wait [12:01] slackadelic.com [12:01] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:01] read the latest article I posted [12:01] see if that clears up your issue [12:02] The puzzling part is the fact that X disappears from the process list when it hangs. [12:03] ccfreak2k: you read tha tarticle ? [12:03] Yes. [12:03] You try that? [12:03] I'm waiting for the box to restart. Again. [12:03] lol [12:04] If thi sis -current with its latest xorg updates.. evdev seems to be giving people headaches. [12:04] and not just on Slackware [12:04] if you do that youre missing all the input hotplugging fun! [12:04] such a shame [12:04] sahko: maybe so.. but when input hotplugging says my mouse has 32buttons.... I don't need it [12:05] maddslacker (n=cmaddock@173-8-57-89-Jacksonville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [12:05] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:05] Dominian, it is indeed current. [12:05] ccfreak2k: :) [12:05] And it still hangs. [12:05] Even after ServerFlags. [12:05] well shit [12:05] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [12:05] well I was hoping tha twould help you [12:06] When I say "hangs" I mean KDE is right in the middle of loading when the screen just freezes. [12:06] Xorg is well into having been loaded. [12:06] ah.. [12:06] ok.. I didn't see that part... my apologies [12:07] Action: Zordrak is still smiliing about his decision to freeze his -current for a while after the xorg updates [12:07] Maybe this is a good time to switch to xcfe or something. [12:07] lol [12:07] or openbox >.> [12:08] Alright, so evdev is a kernel module right? [12:08] well.. [12:08] its an xorgkernel module [12:09] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: "Leaving" [12:09] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-8a66d93ecd987c20) left irc: [12:11] wee, we gave monies to banks, banks took it, raises interest rates and are now speculating on oil again.. "to stabalize the market" [12:12] it's too early to try to stabalize the economy in the u.s. you numbnuts [12:13] bijit (i=1000@190.241.15.48) left irc: "leaving" [12:13] lol [12:15] sloin (n=d@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) left irc: "Leaving" [12:15] yeah, i filled my camry up for 36$ last night [12:16] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.5.170) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:16] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.1.17) joined ##slackware. [12:19] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEkErF51Uxg [12:19] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-134-221.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:19] Maybe my kernel isn't updated. [12:20] eh? what kernel version you running? [12:20] 29.1 I think. [12:23] i think i'm on .4 >.> [12:23] not much difference from .29 [12:23] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [12:23] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:24] Greetings everyone. :) [12:24] hey firebird619, how goes? [12:25] BP{k}: goes excellent, thank you. yourself? [12:25] I got my mail salvaged out of Kontact. :) [12:25] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:27] ananke: ping when you have a free moment [12:27] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:28] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [12:29] kunal (n=kunala05@ppp-124-120-224-180.revip2.asianet.co.th) left irc: [12:30] nvision (n=nvision@g229076196.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:30] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:30] nvision (n=nvision@g229076196.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:33] firebird619: not bad :) [12:33] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.86.186) left irc: "leaving" [12:33] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [12:33] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [12:35] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: "leaving" [12:36] y0 firebird619 [12:36] muzz2k (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:36] y0 slackytude [12:36] How's it going? [12:37] sitting in uni again [12:37] I have no life [12:37] how about you? [12:37] doing excellent, thanks. Messing around with the new opera snapshot. :) [12:37] how is it? [12:38] great so far. Looks like some slight changes to the ui skin, subtle but nice. [12:42] kama (n=kama@host57-119-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:46] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: "Killed by BillGates (Windows Linux 98 -- jizz your pants!)" [12:46] Opera is now a web server too...what could possibly go wrong [12:46] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:46] j0z (n=LINUX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [12:47] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [12:51] >.> [12:52] Action: jeev expects exploits out asap [12:53] uhhh [12:53] opera... web server... [12:53] Action: Dominian smells hackage [12:53] I wrote a vb web server once [12:53] yeah and that sparked the viral infection of 2008 didn't it? [12:53] Action: Dominian ducks [12:53] Action: NaCl shudders [12:53] lol [12:54] Dominian: yes, both computer and ... uhm, nevermind. ;) [12:54] haha [12:54] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [12:54] lol [12:56] Dominian: It can be a web server now too, check out unite.opera.com [12:56] blech [12:56] forget that [12:56] oh god... ewwww [12:56] that's like.. MIcrosoft having their own web server... [12:56] oh wait... [12:56] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] lol [12:57] in soviet russia... [12:57] you die [12:57] heh [12:57] hehehe [12:57] lol [12:58] I wrote a webserver in java [12:58] with threads [12:58] CyberS0nic_ (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [12:58] I got slapped for that [12:58] ewwww [12:59] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:59] firebird619, do you host a chatroom in your opera now? [12:59] I imagined that the _only_ reason it /hadn't/ been done was because it was ludicrously insecure, but apparently "they've solved the problem of security" oh... that's good to know (security < stupidity)!!! [12:59] slackytude: I don't, but you can, that's part of unite called the fridge. [12:59] s/you can/it's possible/ [13:00] err. not the Fridge, it's The Lounge. [13:01] theblackbox, what a web server combined into a web browser? [13:01] yeah [13:01] that's dumb... [13:03] guys, in the new X11, should we define the mouse in xorg.conf or through hal? [13:03] you can do ha [13:03] l [13:03] Action: theblackbox is excited about the -current whispers [13:04] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:06] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [13:07] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [13:07] Nick change: zerox0 -> zeroXzero [13:08] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Client Quit [13:08] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:10] guys anybody knows why there isn't slackbuild 12.2 for fglrx? [13:10] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [13:10] hi [13:11] v4nelle: won't compile, IIRC [13:12] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:14] CyberS0nic_ (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:14] meow~~ [13:15] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [13:18] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:19] i need to stab someone in the eye... any volunteers? [13:20] Action: firebird619 stabs Necos in the eye. :) [13:20] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [13:20] Action: Necos notes that he has fake eyes [13:20] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431443.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:20] so do you have a braille keyboard then? [13:21] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] wb nix_chix0r [13:21] Action: gar0t0 dont have eyes :D [13:21] Hey gar0t0 [13:21] firebird619: hey man!! are you ok ? [13:21] so, you just have holes where they used to be? [13:21] wb nix_chix0r ^_^ [13:21] Oh yeah, doing excellent, thanks. yourself? [13:22] firebird619: excellent too :) [13:22] good to hear. :) [13:22] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:26] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [13:27] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [13:29] kama (n=kama@host57-119-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:30] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Connection timed out [13:30] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [13:33] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:33] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:34] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl9-40.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:34] SteppenwolfII (n=greymaus@86-43-183-205-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:35] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.1.17) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:36] Vic1ous (n=root@75-120-150-69.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [13:37] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.34.79) joined ##slackware. [13:38] muzz2k (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: [13:38] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: "Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)" [13:39] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.34.79) left irc: Client Quit [13:39] Hey guys. I need a little help, I'm trying to setup my wireless network i got ndiswrapper installed and got the driver for my "WMP300N" installed. But I can't get it to change the essid. I have tried changing it in rc.inet1.conf, rc.wireless.conf & wpa_supplicant.conf. But every time I run iwconfig wlan0 it comes up as ESSID: off/any [13:39] btw my network is running wep not wpa [13:40] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:40] how did you get WEP working? through wpa_supplicant.conf or other means? [13:40] muzz2k (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:41] my router is setup to wep right now i'm wired [13:41] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) joined ##slackware. [13:42] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [13:42] can you paste the relevant wpa_supplicant.conf and rc.inet1.conf sections into a pastebin? [13:42] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left ##slackware ("init 0"). [13:42] sure one second [13:44] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.82.161) left irc: "leaving" [13:44] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [13:44] http://pastebin.com/m16a54173 [13:44] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left ##slackware ("init 0"). [13:45] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431443.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:45] wpa_supplicant is for WPA encryption [13:45] so how do i setup a network for wep encryption [13:45] it supports all [13:45] oh [13:45] Well not per se thrice` [13:45] wpa_supplicant does wep, wpa, plaintext, EAP, etc [13:45] it handles wep too? (sorry :( ) [13:46] But the pasted config *is* only WPA [13:46] learn something new every day =] [13:46] So that will never work [13:46] I guess so; I feel clueless now :) sorry, I'll pipe down [13:46] do i just change proto= to wep? [13:46] acperkins_ (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:47] Vic1ous: read the man page. But really, you do not need wpa_supplicant if you only have WEP [13:47] Also, if you use an ndiswrapper version less than 2 years old, you shoud not use WLAN_WPADRIVER[4]="ndiswrapper" but WLAN_WPADRIVER[4]="wext" [13:47] well i tried to just set it up with rc.inet1.conf [13:47] ok [13:47] might i suggest wcid? tis in /extra [13:48] what is wcid? [13:48] wicd sorry. [13:48] lol what is wicd =p [13:48] its a GUI to manage wireless [13:48] oh [13:48] makes things much easier. [13:48] wicd is nice if you have a laptop and move around a lot [13:48] Otherwise, it is overkill [13:49] Plus, it activates your network too late in the boot process [13:49] Vic1ous: you could try reading http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network#wireless_configuration_in_rc.inet1.conf [13:49] ok ill read it [13:49] thanks [13:50] not to mention that wicd still doesn't seem to support two connected interfaces at the same time [13:50] like the stock scripts handle very well [13:50] And that will take quite some time to get implemented into wicd [13:52] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.75.163) joined ##slackware. [13:53] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [13:53] I have been using it a while and not run into many problems. [13:53] wicd is great for laptops [13:54] y0 init[1] [13:54] It would be problematic if you were to dhcpcd on another interface but that should be expected. [13:54] hey slackytude :) [13:55] Action: init[1] most linux lovers , AFIK love my name :) [13:55] jonsmith1982: no problem is expected in that case with the stock scripts [13:55] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [13:55] see where thought got you [13:55] hi! What textmode editor could open text files of several gigabytes, and *not* eat all of my ram? :) [13:55] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.78.237) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:55] Hey chopp, how's it going? [13:56] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: Client Quit [13:56] firebird619: damn fine, and yourself? [13:56] doing excellent, thanks. :) [13:56] firebird619: chopp antiwire , hi :) [13:57] hey [13:57] chopp: I tried Kontact again and it did the same thing with my mail. :P [13:57] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [13:57] hey init[1] [13:57] o/ [13:57] \o [13:57] comes with the "K" :P [13:57] chopp: is that sm kinda urban symbol ? [13:58] chopp: So I've got my mail synced with claws and opera. I also found this: http://linux.com/archive/feature/146613 [13:58] am i the only one that finds kde programs (kontact,kmail,etc) complicated ? [13:58] init[1]: It's a person waving. :P [13:58] what should the setting WLAN_IWPRIV[4]= be set to for wep? [13:58] ooh . the head and hand [13:58] mlangdn (n=michael@72-4-62-30.customers.cinergycom.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:58] \o/ i wave with both hands :P [13:59] Vic1ous: you do not need that usually [13:59] Lord_Khelben: I don't really find them complicated, but kontact ate my mail, so I don't exactly like it much anymore. :P [13:59] muzz2k (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:59] in that case i should have this setup right but its still showing essid off/any [13:59] init[1]: cheerleader doing the splits. _\o/_ [14:00] if i use iwlist wlan0 scan i can see my access point [14:00] firebird619: omg [14:00] :P [14:00] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: [14:00] firebird619: i nva thought to that extent :P [14:00] lol [14:00] firebird619: decent tutorial [14:01] firebird619: isn't kontact something like an addressbook ? it can eat mail ? [14:01] chopp: yeah, and about all I need. fetchmail complains about certificates though and being untrusted, but it gets my mail. [14:01] fetchmail can do certificates [14:02] Vic1ous: can you confirm that you are able to connect *at all* over wifi? setup plaintext/unencrypted as a test first. [14:02] i tried kmail some time ago, but i didn't like its identities thing. it didn't let me delete identities (it always kept the last one and i needed to delete the file in .kde) [14:02] Lord_Khelben: It's an e-mail client, rss, notes, journal, address book, all rolled into one. It uses kmail as the mail part. [14:02] There's a few other components to it, I just can't think of them all. [14:02] thats what i mean complicated :) [14:02] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [14:02] Lord_Khelben: What it did in my case, each time I clicked an e-mail, it went to unkown and it stripped the headers and message body. [14:03] 28 programs in one, and you need 2 degrees to use it [14:03] Lord_Khelben: Well, in that case, it is complicated. :P [14:03] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-72-71.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:03] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-67-9.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:03] i liked kmail. it was beautiful, but i don't want to deal much with learning a simple mail program. claws-mail is super light and easy to use [14:04] slackytude: when I run fetchmail -c, it checks for the mail and says however many new messages there are, and then gives a couple messages about certificates. [14:04] acperkins_ (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Connection timed out [14:04] Action: slackytude shrugs [14:04] all I know is you can configure fetchmal to handle SSL connections / certs [14:04] coz I used to do that [14:04] nope I removed security and just tried to connect using iwconfig wlan0 essid "" [14:04] Lord_Khelben: Yeah, claws-mail is a great client. I love opera and use it for mail mostly, but I keep the mail synced with claws. Claws is extremely fast and has a lot of ways, etc to filter/process mail. [14:05] Vic1ous: so your card is still not properly configure. [14:05] something is wrong with it [14:05] yeah. i used the filtering system to filter various mailing lists each to its own dir [14:05] not sure what it would be it picked it up with the scan [14:05] slackytude: fetchmail: Server certificate verification error: unable to get local issuer certificate and fetchmail: Server certificate verification error: certificate not trusted [14:05] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [14:05] aye [14:05] Action: Lord_Khelben his pizza came at last. pizza + beer time :) [14:05] which doesn't really surprise me since you are using ndiswrapper and even though a lot of people have it working, many also don't. [14:05] Lord_Khelben: yeah, same here. claws is great. [14:06] Lord_Khelben: It starts up amazingly fast too. I was surprised when I first tried it. [14:06] Vic1ous: being able to detect networks in the scan doesn't mean the card is functioning properly. a test association to an unencrypted network is the best test [14:06] Vic1ous: did you try to manually associate using iwconfig? [14:07] i want to try kde 4.2.4 but i always delay it, so i will give kmail a look again sometime [14:07] if you mean iwconfig wlan0 essid "T1000" then yes [14:07] Vic1ous: try ot set the channel first [14:07] slackytude: aside from those errors, it gets the mail fine, I don't know where it's putting it, but it works fine. [14:07] Lord_Khelben: I'm on current and 4.2.4 right now. [14:08] i am on -current but on xfce [14:08] acperkins_ (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:09] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: "(Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))" [14:09] Nick change: acperkins_ -> muzz2k [14:10] ok i tried to just use dhcpd but when i run wlan0_restart it says /sbin/dhcpcd not running [14:10] only a ap d l n x and xap for this cat [14:10] meow~~ [14:10] haha [14:10] Vic1ous: perhaps you should post your current config [14:13] or start intead or restard [14:13] or start intead or restart [14:14] if he can't manually make it associate do you think the script will do it? [14:14] no [14:16] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [14:21] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving." [14:23] Nick change: dogsoul -> _dogsoul [14:23] Nick change: _dogsoul -> dogsoul [14:25] is possible "show" only "free space" in LVM partition ? [14:26] vic1ous_ (n=vic1ous@75-120-150-69.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] pvdisplay [14:26] :D [14:26] Vic1ous (n=root@75-120-150-69.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:26] PV Size 74.27 GB / not usable 17.89 MB [14:26] ops [14:26] sorry [14:26] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:26] ok just for curiosity i installed wicd and connected using my wireless network and it worked [14:27] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-162-2.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [14:27] so obviously i'm doing something wrong in the config lol [14:27] gar0t0: also vgdisplay if you want to see the free space in a volume group [14:27] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:28] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [14:28] Lord_Khelben: thanks!! :) [14:30] vic1ous_ (n=vic1ous@75-120-150-69.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:30] http://forums.pugetsystems.com/showthread.php?p=37858#post37858 [14:33] Hi! I'm trying to make sshd get a afs token but usually it's done using pam. By the way, I'm using mit-kerberos and not heimdal. Any tips? [14:33] oda: in Slackware we have pam nor kerberos [14:33] You installed those yourself? [14:33] alienBOB: heya :) [14:34] you should use heimdal >.> [14:34] hey fluxnuk3r [14:34] heimdal++ [14:34] alienBOB: I know, that's why is so damn difficult to setup this things [14:35] not really... [14:35] i have kerberos running on my slack servers no problem [14:35] Necos: does heimdal have something similar to login.krb5? [14:36] it has exactly that iirc [14:36] Necos: me too, it's working fine, but now I trying to put the home in afs [14:38] Necos & oda - are you volunteering to write a nice kerberos ( / AFS / LDAP) tutorial for other Slackers? [14:38] ;-) [14:38] alienBOB: i'm working on it! [14:38] That is cool oda [14:38] i primarily use it for samba, heh =p [14:39] rs [14:39] THis is exactly the pivot point for many Slackware users - they can never get their system connected beyond a good old LAN, and are forced to stay out of corporate networks [14:39] why are you putting /home on afs tho? >.> [14:40] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [14:40] maxote (n=||||||||@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [14:41] Necos: well... I dont want to use nfs [14:41] oh you HAVE to mount your /home over the network? [14:41] Necos: yep... [14:42] alienBOB: my slack box plays pretty nice with the school's network [14:42] Necos: and NFS has lot of security issues... [14:42] / [14:43] so far, this is what I did: [14:44] Arenics (n=Administ@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [14:44] install and setup mit-kerberos [14:44] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [14:44] rename /bin/login to /bin/login.shadow [14:44] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:45] link /bin/login to login.krb5 [14:45] uh [14:45] mv'd login.krb5 to login? [14:45] heimdal is on sbo [14:45] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:46] oh you said you use mt-kerberos [14:46] slackytude: I know, but how can I use heimdal to authenticate users without pam? [14:46] greetings [14:46] greetings The-Croupier [14:46] heya The-Croupier [14:46] Action: The-Croupier had to buy a small modem/router because he had no more than $50 [14:46] hiya Lord_Khelben , Necos ;) [14:46] how are you guys doing? [14:46] The-Croupier: megia [14:47] oda, I had to recompile samba [14:47] Lord_Khelben: thanks [14:47] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.7.72) joined ##slackware. [14:47] and I have to go now [14:47] The-Croupier: what brand ? [14:47] ok... workin the old brain [14:47] later slackytude [14:47] Lord_Khelben: rub it in shall you? [14:47] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.129) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:47] The-Croupier: i didn't understand [14:48] slacktude: I didn't get it... Actually I don have (nor need) samba, I just need afs and a good way to authenticate and authorize [14:49] nsswitch doesn't work? [14:49] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-28-50.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:49] it works to use ldap to authorize [14:50] i guess the question is... what are you gonna auth against? [14:52] Necos: I want to auth against kerberos (mit ou heimdal, doesn't matter), authorize with ldap and put homes in openafs [14:52] and I don't want to use pam! ;) [14:54] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.242) joined ##slackware. [14:54] the authentication/authorization is working fine and, if the local user log in a workstation, he gets an afs token [14:55] The-Crou1ier (n=ksandros@adsl164-169.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:55] the problem is that remote users (ssh) do not get the afs token [14:56] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.114.28.187.plusnet.thn-ag3.dyn.plus.net) joined ##slackware. [14:57] hiya guys, how can one ghost a nick? [14:57] The-Crou1ier: /ns ghost nickname password [14:57] The-Crou1ier: use /msg NickServ GHOST nick password [14:58] ah, they're not getting the token for 2 reasons, i'mm guessing... 1.) ssh is not linked to kerberos 2.) they're being auth'd by shadow before kerberos [14:58] Lord_Khelben: you can just use /ns for nickserv? [14:58] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:58] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:58] firebird619: in irssi yes [14:58] chopp: cool, I didn't know that. [14:59] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [14:59] thanks guys ;) appreciate it [14:59] Necos: I recompiled openssh linked to kerberos and I edited sshd_config [14:59] firebird619: in most clients i used till now it works [14:59] Lord_Khelben: nice. I guess I never knew that or tried it. [15:00] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:00] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [15:00] Nick change: The-Crou1ier -> The-Croupier [15:00] Necos: but to get afs token, openssh needs kafs.h (that mit-krb doesn't have and heimdal does have) [15:00] You may say: so use heimdal! [15:00] WORMUX ?! [15:01] so you need to compile heimdal a la slackbuilds.org? [15:01] Lord_Khelben: this router didnt handle slackpkg upgrade-all very well [15:01] actually /quote Nickserv is better than /msg nickserv (in irssi /ns => /quote Nickserv [15:01] oda, that's exactly what i'd say ^^ [15:01] it just crashed ;) [15:01] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:01] but then, I dont know how to auth against kerberos without login.krb5! [15:01] BP{k}: /ns didnt work for me in irssi [15:01] had to use /msg nickserv [15:01] The-Croupier: does the router care what program do you run ? [15:02] Lord_Khelben: looks like it ;) lol [15:02] let me check my samba server [15:02] Necos: what a crazy talk! rsrs [15:02] ok [15:02] The-Croupier: still my point stands: /quote Nickserv is better than /msg Nickserv. [15:02] BP{k}: in what sense is it better? [15:02] BP{k}: my intriquing mind is curious now, how is /quote better> [15:03] s/>/?/ [15:03] oda [15:03] it _DOES_ have login.krb5 [15:03] case someone has the nick nicksefv [15:03] Necos: I'm here [15:03] but most ircds dont allow that [15:03] usr/heimdal/bin/login [15:03] Necos: what?!? [15:03] y0 acidkill [15:03] ^_^ [15:03] sup sup [15:03] Necos: lol [15:03] it's just named something different [15:03] =p [15:03] hiya acidkill , w [15:03] The-Croupier: because /quote sends the raw data directly to the server. /msg .. as acidkill pointed out sends it to a /nick/ .. it has happened before that someone managed to get the NickServ nickname .. guess how many irc passwords that gives ;) [15:04] Necos: very nice! [15:04] so, now what's your excuse? ^_~ [15:04] BP{k}: wow, thank you [15:04] acidkill: not much, weather's crappy today. I'm trying to figure out why fetchmail is complaining about certificates. [15:04] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-138.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:04] that is awsome to know [15:04] Necos: you win... [15:04] BP{k}: cool. I didn't know that. [15:04] either [15:04] ^_^ [15:04] Necos: and I like! [15:04] Action: Necos wins [15:04] I had never heard of /quote before [15:05] BP{k}: so the usage of it would be /quote nickserv ghost nick password [15:05] Action: firebird619 makes a note to use /quote [15:06] The-Croupier: Correct; or see if your irc client supports aliases and set it accordingly. IIRC irssi is already set to use /ns as /quote nickserv. [15:06] BP{k}: just did /quote privmsg the-croupier hello and i sent something to myself hahahah [15:07] BP{k}: im using irssi, going to the manual as we speak [15:07] Necos: I'm removing mit-krb e installing heimdal. Thanks! [15:07] The-Croupier: read the rfc ;-) [15:07] i trust heimdal a lot more ^_^ [15:07] no disrespect to mit [15:07] Action: v4nelle trwei golden grahams sketa :) [15:07] BP{k}: I just checked my irssi config file, I don't see that as an alias in there. [15:08] firebird619: hm I might have set it myself then. [15:08] BP{k}: I've changed it now, but my alias in irssi for /ns was /msg nickserv [15:09] chopp: but ns was an alias in there though? [15:09] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.116.115) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:09] firebird619: yes [15:09] acidkill: ;) have never seen the rfc for irssi...manual thought quite alot [15:09] rfc for irc [15:09] BP{k}: good tip, thanks [15:09] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.41.51) joined ##slackware. [15:10] chopp: hmm I might have actually changed it myself .. not sure. I think I have the same irssi config for about 4+ years now. so when I changed what might be a bit hazy :) [15:10] chopp: Hmm, strange. I'm adding it now. I had added other aliases for op and deop, but they didn't work. :P [15:10] BP{k}: could it be /quote ident password as well? [15:12] There, that's set, I'm gonna get on irssi with my alt nick and test it. [15:12] The-Croupier: you mean instead of /quote Nickserv ident password? [15:12] firebird_619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:12] firebird619: that is strange. I've added a few aliases myself, but /ns wasn't one of them. [15:13] chopp: I just added the ns alias, and it doesn't work at all. [15:13] I get unknown command [15:13] firebird_619: really? what the.. [15:13] what the... indeed [15:14] firebird619: hold on .. you added the alias.. then started a new client with a backup night? [15:14] s/night/nick/ [15:14] my op and deop aliases don't work either. [15:14] chopp (i=1000@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [15:14] BP{k}: yeah. I added the alias, then started irssi with my alt nick [15:14] firebird_619: and ... that is why. [15:14] chopp (i=1000@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [15:14] aliases are only set *for* the /active/ session. [15:15] so you started a new client. thus that won't have the aliases set. [15:15] BP{k}: you mean the active nick right? [15:15] The-Croupier: what do you mean? [15:15] I set the alias in the config file, doesn't it read that file each time? [15:15] BP{k}: if you do /save before exiting? [15:15] firebird_619: ah it should do yes [15:15] That's how I always add aliases in irssi, I edit the config file directly. [15:15] The-Croupier: okay, well done. You utterly managed to confuse me. [15:16] haha [15:16] BP{k}: lol [15:16] firebird_619: grep -i NS ~/.irssi/config [15:16] sorry, im confused a little as well [15:16] The-Croupier: yes, that much is certain, :) [15:16] The-Croupier: wow, you confused yourself too? :P [15:16] firebird_619: lol [15:16] haha [15:16] BP{k}: yep, the grep command shows it. [15:17] Action: chopp points at The-Croupier and laughs [15:17] Action: Necos points at chopp and shrugs [15:17] what i was trying to say: if you set the aliases in the active session and you do /save that saves your irssi in the config, it should work on the new session [15:17] Necos: nobody asked you :P [15:17] The-Croupier: yes. [15:17] Action: Necos stabs chopp [15:17] firebird_619: this is what my irssi config has: NS = "quote NickServ"; [15:17] and no one asked you for your opinion =p [15:18] BP{k}: so i wasnt that confused, just said it confusing [15:18] Action: firebird_619 points at Necos and laughs uncontrollably. [15:18] oh man...no healthcare [15:18] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [15:18] chopp: don't get me started on health care in the US [15:18] just the word health care pisses me off [15:18] The-Croupier: same difference. :) [15:18] No, don't get ME started on the health care in the US :P [15:18] Action: eviljames <- socialist [15:18] Action: firebird_619 facepalms [15:18] dtanner: yeah I really shouldn't be complaining about mine [15:18] brb [15:18] talk about a big fsckin money hungry racket [15:19] chopp: No, you shouldn't :D [15:19] firebird_619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("brb"). [15:19] BP{k}: is it bad that i dont have any ns in my config at all [15:19] i have insurance , that is not the problem , it is the quality of health care adn the 10 minutes they spend with you and only listen to what they want to in an office visit [15:19] increased inefficiency = more jobs , why do you hate america [15:19] eviljames: I did have a war with AHC for years, and is ongoing [15:20] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:20] i'm kidding of course [15:20] firebird_619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:20] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:20] k, well, Alberta Health Care is purposefully crippled by corrupt politicians, so it's not exactly the right example. [15:20] nope, still don't work. [15:20] eviljames: true that [15:21] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [15:22] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:22] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:22] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:22] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:22] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:23] firebird619: weird. can you show me exactly what your irssi config sais regarding the quote command? [15:23] The-Croupier: no it' [15:23] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [15:23] Nick change: firebird_619 -> firebird619 [15:23] The-Croupier: no it's not bad. Just a matter what you are used to and convenience. [15:23] BP{k}: NS = "/quote NickServ"; [15:24] firebird619: well duh. :) [15:24] firebird619: what was the name of that adblock plugin for opera you mentioned yesterday? [15:24] PEBKAC again? :P [15:24] firebird619: NS = "quote NickServ" [15:24] oh for crying out loud. [15:24] Action: firebird619 facepalms [15:24] icarus: AdSweep [15:24] Action: BP{k} facedesks firebird619 ;) [15:24] firebird619: thanks [15:24] yw [15:24] I'm on the phone with Mrs. Pebkac at the moment. Why do these people always ask quetsions like "Why do I have a white AND a blue video jack? That's too confusing, why do they do that?" [15:24] BP{k}: now I know why my op and deop aliases weren't working either. hehe [15:25] eviljames: 90% of questions beginning with "Why" have the same answer. This answer being "Because people are stupid." [15:25] brb again [15:25] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [15:26] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:26] firebird_619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:26] BP{k}: how about the "how"? [15:27] BP{k}: still don't work. [15:27] jarath (n=jarath@adsl-147-143-227.sdf.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:27] firebird619: uh .. weird. [15:27] Hi, can any one help a noob out? [15:27] jarath: Don't ask meta-questions (ie, ask to ask), just ask. We can't help you untill we know the prolbem. And try to explain exactly what the problem is, which Slackware version you're using, (if you use a pakcage where you got it from), what you were doing, etc [15:28] k [15:28] BP{k}: any other ideas about why it may not work? [15:28] I'm running 12.2 and I need help installing slapt-get [15:28] I'll maybe just go ask #irssi and see if they have any insight. [15:28] firebird619: what other addons do you use? [15:28] jarath: no you don't. [15:29] im new to opera, is there somewhere you would refer me to find more coolness for it? [15:29] firebird619: and "/alias ns" shows you what? [15:29] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.7.72) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:29] icarus: Umm, sec. [15:29] jarath: why do you need slapt-get? [15:30] I'm trying to install GNOME on my system [15:30] BP{k}: Uh, that shows nothing except Aliases: and then nothing. [15:31] icarus: I'll get you the link of the others I use in a sec. I just have to find them. I don't use many. :P [15:31] s/them/link/ [15:32] icarus: ever heard of Tamil? He has an excellent blog on my.opera.com with a bunch of opera tips and tricks. [15:32] firebird619: you can try this: in irssi: "/alias NS quote NickServ" "/save" and try then. [15:32] firebird619: im enthuesed by opera, its just going to take alot to get it to the functionality i have firefox at [15:33] Anyway ... kethry has just provided me with foodage. So back later. [15:33] jarath (n=jarath@adsl-147-143-227.sdf.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:33] icarus: http://my.opera.com/Tamil/blog/ [15:33] BP{k}: later. thanks for the help. [15:34] BP{k}: that worked. Thanks again. [15:35] firebird_619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [15:35] firebird619: thanks man [15:35] icarus: yw [15:35] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:36] icarus: In addition to AdSweep, I also use this: http://my.opera.com/Tamil/blog/show.dml/526801 [15:37] icarus: These are the others I use: http://my.opera.com/Tamil/blog/useful-user-javascripts-for-opera [15:37] I make a js folder in ~/.opera, put those, and AdSweep, in there, and then you tell opera to look there for .js files. [15:37] Gosh, tell me again why I stopped using irssi? :P [15:38] It just feels like home. [15:38] firebird619: you stopped because you were tired of having a constant headache? [15:39] firebird619: Oh and you like your free time. [15:39] nah, that isn't it. I didn't get a headache. :P [15:39] free time? what free time? :P [15:39] i love weechat [15:39] irssi is nice though [15:39] they are almost the same, weechat is just prettier by default [15:39] lots of sane defaults [15:39] agentc0re|work: I had been using konversation. :D [15:40] firebird619: use pidgin, like a real person :P [15:40] agentc0re|work: you use pidgin for IRC? [15:40] Yup. [15:40] icarus: I have weechat installed, just hadn't tried it. I like how it can do splits both ways. [15:40] pattwo (n=sysadmin@d206-75-63-100.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:40] firebird619: oh i didn't know irssi couldn't do vsplits [15:40] agentc0re|work: I had used irssi, then pidgin for a while, then konversation. [15:40] muzz2k (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: [15:40] icarus: nope, only hsplits. [15:40] for irssi [15:41] midnight_sun (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [15:41] fonts are a bit tiny here in irssi. [15:41] agentc0re|work: I love all the plugins pidgin has for it. the plugin-pack. [15:41] Does pidgin have aliases do you know? [15:42] firebird619: yup [15:42] I know of course irssi does, konversation does? what about pidgin [15:42] firebird619: I don't use any of the pluggins. I use multiple chat clients, so it just makes sense for me to use one to rule them all. [15:42] agentc0re|work: yeah, I hear ya. [15:42] :) [15:42] firebird619: yes, pidgin does aliases. [15:42] this aint Mordor >.> [15:42] agentc0re|work: k, now I've got to go mess with pidgin, brb. thanks alot. :P [15:42] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [15:42] Necos: You're not high enough obviously to realize, it is! [15:43] HAH. [15:43] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:43] miss me? :D [15:43] what kind of aliases did you mean though? [15:43] oh I think Necos is plenty high enough [15:43] HAH [15:43] it aliases nicks and channel names. [15:44] like set NS for /quote NickServ like I just set in irssi? [15:44] lol [15:44] i'm at work still... so... [15:44] Ugh, why is pidgin scrolling so slow. It wasn't before. [15:44] kvirc ftw [15:45] firebird619: there ya go jumping ship AGAIN. you'll be back :P [15:45] hehehe [15:46] chopp: hehe. :) [15:46] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) joined ##slackware. [15:46] Will I ever settle on one irc client? /8ball [15:46] err, that didn't work. [15:46] "The future is cloudy... Probably not" [15:46] y0 dude, how's it going? [15:47] midnight_sun (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [15:47] Action: eviljames is dealing with a massive pebkac. Having id-10 t errors everywhere... [15:47] The Purple 8 Ball says: Unclear [15:47] eviljames: go home [15:48] Dominian: I'm just waiting for Thursday... then I'll be 30 miles off Vancouver Island fishing for halibut [15:48] hahahaha [15:48] eviljames: you should bang their head against the table [15:48] relieve your stress [15:48] Necos: It's on the phone, I do the passive aggressive tactic: "Please hold while I investigate further" [15:49] My investigation yielded a result: [15:49] You're an idiot! [15:49] Ugh, this is horrible. brb [15:49] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [15:49] lol [15:49] can you use ls to only display the files in a certain folder, and ignore subfolders? or would I have to use 'find' to do that? [15:50] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:50] firebird619: HA told ya so ;) [15:50] eviljames: wow.. at work i am assuming. [15:50] agentc0re|work: you know it.. [15:50] chopp: :P [15:50] eviljames: start handing out forms to fill out. [15:50] using ls, the only command I can think of that would accomplish that is "ls -p | grep -v /" [15:51] chopp: you know me to well eh? :P [15:51] agentc0re|work: It's ridiculous. I don't know how many times I've tried to tell this luddite "Unplug the wire from the top jack, then plug it into the bottom one" [15:51] firebird619: been there, done that..lol [15:52] eviljames: hehe [15:52] chopp: and then settled on irssi? :P [15:52] firebird619: yes [15:52] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:52] eviljames: have him unplug the power and then tell him his computer just died because you can't see it on the network anymore and he'll have to send it in. [15:52] :P [15:52] I mean, come on... this isn't rocket science. [15:53] Where does fetchmail store mail by default? I had set it so that it went through procmail a while ago and yet when I check the location, it doesn't show the new messages? [15:53] It is Rocket Surgery! [15:53] They won't send it to me, I've already tried. Nor will they just buy a new one. Piece of crap is 3 years old, CHUCK IT OUT. [15:53] Much more difficult. [15:53] I can take secretaries through replacing sata hard drives, they never seem to have a problem. [15:55] eviljames: ask to speak to someone else then. [15:55] http://kimag.es/share/42326998.jpg [15:56] firebird619: I usually only do irc so I need nothing else. I do have bitlbee installed though. [15:57] chopp: cool. I im now and then too, so to an extent, it's nice having everything in the same app, but irssi is really nice. [15:57] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [15:57] firebird619: check out bitlbee at SBo [15:58] icarus: LOL [15:58] chopp: I've got fetchmail to the extent where it checks my mail and it shows new messages, I just don't know where the heck it's putting them. :P [15:58] chopp: ok, will do. [15:58] argh... [15:58] teachers are stupid >.> [15:58] "my computer doesn't work" [15:59] "use a laptop from your laptop car" [15:59] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:59] s/car/cart/; [15:59] chopp: that looks cool. [15:59] "but, my computer doesn't work" [15:59] Action: Necos dies. [16:00] Action: firebird619 plans a funeral service for Necos [16:00] firebird619: yes it is cool. BP{k} pointed it out to me. [16:00] Who wants to come to the service and pay their respects? :D [16:00] firebird619: glad it worked. and will there be booze at the service? :P [16:00] Action: The-Croupier sets up a party for Necos [16:00] chopp: It'd be nice if irssi could do that too. I'm downloading bitlbee too. [16:01] BP{k}: Umm, possibly. :) [16:01] I'd drink to that [16:01] I thought at first, byob, but why not just have a couple kegs at the service. [16:01] in my case though, s/beer/root beer/ :D [16:02] chopp: sbopkg FTW, bitlebee installing now. [16:02] just what I need, another program to switch too. :D. Gotta love it. [16:02] haha [16:02] snowdonkey (i=1000@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] opera even has an irc client, but it doesn't do logs, so I WILL NOT use it. I needz my logz/ [16:03] firebird619: you do know there is public logs right? [16:03] modifying inetd.conf now. [16:03] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:04] geia v4nelle [16:04] chopp: yup, sure do. I'm also in #studios and sometimes other channels, so I still want my own set of logs. [16:04] hello The-Croupier :) [16:04] I don't see why opera won't add logging. [16:04] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431443.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:04] hm its the hour of the greeks ? [16:04] lol [16:05] this is S.. [16:05] pattwo (n=sysadmin@d206-75-63-100.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [16:05] slackware [16:05] ;) [16:05] chopp: btw, one of the reasons opera mails still in contention for me, I discovered that it uses a modified mbox format, and therefore it stores each e-mail in it's own file and in ~/.opera, it stores the mail in dirs by year, month, date, etc. I didn't know that before. So it's sort of gives me the benefit of what I liked MH and Maildir for. :) [16:05] chopp: but personally logs make a whole lot easier seeking wiht grep-fu ;) [16:05] s/mails/mail's/ [16:06] by the way, quick side note [16:06] if you use tilda [16:06] the quake-like drop down console [16:06] you have to CTRL + click [16:06] to open links in firefox [16:06] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-67-9.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:06] FYI [16:06] took me 6 months to learn this [16:06] just saving you time [16:06] BP{k}: that's why I like having my own logs. Sometimes I'll use "search term" site:http://web_site_here in google though and search public logs. [16:06] BP{k}: oh I agree 100% I need my logs too [16:06] Lord_Khelben: and i was complaining the other night, i dont see the greeks around the channel alot :( [16:06] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-67-9.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] The-Croupier: there are a few more [16:07] more?! [16:07] anyone from Athens? Lord_Khelben you know any of them personally? [16:08] no, noone personally [16:08] there were some friends of mine but i haven't seen them here in the last year [16:09] Lord_Khelben: yeah ,, there are alot of people that are not here the last year [16:09] Lord_Khelben: do you know if any of them are from Athens? [16:09] i don't think so [16:10] vic1ous (n=vic1ous@75-120-150-69.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [16:10] Nick change: vic1ous -> Vic1ous [16:11] chopp: Ok, I went to start bitlbee and I get ERROR :Warning: Permission problem: Can't read/write from/to `/var/lib/bitlbee/'. Did I miss a step? I should be able to run as normal user, correct? [16:12] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431443.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:12] heret|c (n=heretic@c-68-32-70-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Lord_Khelben: i think agiofws is from athens [16:12] Hey Guys I'm back sorry having a little trouble with the Internet. Alright so I got my wireless network working with wicd but I can't use that because it only uses one connection, I have to be able to share the wireless connection to eth0 for my xbox [16:12] hiya heret|c ;) long time no see [16:13] hey hey [16:13] where've you been? [16:13] heret|c: all around, ;) but still in slackware ;) [16:13] how about yourself? [16:13] hows things going [16:13] wondering around the net like a bum hitchin a train ride [16:14] heret|c: im using -current, but i havent had any errors yet :( something must be wrong [16:14] heret|c: lol [16:14] goin good :) [16:14] The-Croupier, i'm using gentoo. but i still support slackware anyways. [16:14] heretic :P [16:14] heret|c: sounds like fun ;) [16:15] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:15] im trying to make my life a little bit easier with some little scripts and learning basic stuff from the beginning, cos i learnt them wrong at some point [16:15] sed is your friend. [16:16] still having those memory problems, but found a way to remind myself stuff... got a motorolla ming a1200 (which is running linux) with lots of reminders [16:17] my memory tends to suck also, but learning by doing works well. [16:17] heret|c: lots of stuff are my friends lately ;) google,bash,irc,man, sed, grep...etc list goes endless [16:17] The-Croupier, if u dont use it , i guess u will start to forget [16:17] heret|c: ohh yes, definately, i also have a little pad that i manually write them down again ;) so that im sure i remember [16:18] Ok, does Jesus simply hate me, or something? kde4 ui still bizarrely locks up [16:18] lol [16:18] eviljames, do compositors work well for you? [16:18] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:18] eviljames: not you only. in my case plasma randomly crashes and runs itself again [16:18] heret|c: flawlessly. [16:19] weird. [16:19] Lord_Khelben: Not the issue I am having, I saw that a while ago but it was resolved. [16:19] heret|c: My trouble started with slackware64-current's latest batch of updates (new xorg / kde 4.2.4) [16:19] the kde4 UI is just QT with compositing. [16:19] so I am 90+% sure it has to do with the intel driver and my hardware [16:20] heret|c: you hanging around a little longer? [16:20] The-Croupier, i have nothing else to do :P [16:20] In my situation, the UI stops responding. No more updates to clocks or hw monitoring, no response from keyboard or mouse click events. The cursor still moves though. [16:21] Vic1ous, activate ip_forward on internet device , and masquerading iptables rule , that should do the job u need [16:21] midnight_sun (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [16:22] wrong [16:22] can i do that while using wicd? [16:22] firebird619: did you add the proper line to inetd.conf, and restart it and irssi? [16:22] eviljames: yes intel suffers from that. Some machines more than others. And then you should realize that it is _intel_ that is pushing the new X.Org, Mesa and Kernel Mode Setting (KMS)... but the result is that the Intel drivers are sucky [16:22] Vic1ous, i dont see any problem in it [16:22] Action: The-Croupier time to reboot. ;) checking some stuff ;) [16:22] chopp: heh, whoops, forgot to start irssi. :P /me facepalms for the third time. [16:22] heret|c: nice to see you again heret|c ;) [16:22] Vic1ous, just wait , ill help you [16:22] u too The-Croupier [16:22] alienBOB: Indeed, I subscribe to the xorg list [16:23] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [16:23] chopp: go ahead, laugh it up. :D [16:23] Vic1ous, echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward [16:23] then [16:23] alienBOB: I've been watching this, and waiting for it to hit slackware64 on grounds that I didn't have time to build it all myself [16:23] firebird619: would I do that? haha [16:23] what's your internet device ? [16:23] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431443.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:23] chopp: YES. :P [16:23] well, originally waiting for it to hit slackware so it would go to slamd64 then I could try it. but slackware64 pretty much obviated that ;P [16:23] i have wlan0 and eth0 [16:24] how u connect to internet ? [16:24] modem on eth0 ? [16:24] wireless to my router [16:24] and your xbox ? [16:24] through eth0 [16:24] chopp: k, I'll try it in a sec, I have to fix my font in irssi first. [16:24] why not connect your xbox to your router ? [16:25] that would work right away [16:25] eviljames: nice that you like it ;-) [16:25] its in my room router is down in the den [16:25] alienBOB: I liked it a ton until this latest update :D [16:25] firebird619: I have to take off for awhile, but BP{k} could help you with the bitlbee if needed perhaps. [16:25] alienBOB: Now it makes me want to pitch my laptop out the window.. [16:25] Vic1ous, ok [16:26] chopp: ok, thanks for the help. see ya later. [16:26] since 2.6.30, KMS works almost flawlessly on most cards [16:26] iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE [16:26] Vic1ous, ^ [16:26] 2.6.29.x was hit-or-miss (but was a kernel issue) [16:26] firebird619: you're welcome..later [16:27] says table does not exsist [16:27] and the first one the /sys/proc/net says permission denied [16:27] u root ? [16:27] well i'm using su [16:27] . [16:27] should i logout and back in as root? [16:28] just do id [16:28] Arenics (n=Administ@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: "cya" [16:28] check if u are root [16:28] yeah [16:28] kjalil (n=kjalil@kerneljack.com) left ##slackware. [16:29] then u have an issue [16:29] shouldnt give permission denied or that lack for table [16:29] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [16:29] u on slackware current , default kernel ? [16:29] yeah [16:29] Nick change: midnight_sun -> o_astrologo [16:30] u copy pasting lines im sending ? [16:30] yeah [16:30] eviljames: yeah, severe community pressure was the reason for finally updating X.Org ... now it seems that the other half of the community is not happy with the _new_ X.Org [16:31] Vic1ous, iptables -t nat -L [16:31] anything ? [16:31] alienBOB: I'm happy with it, or will be when this gets ironed out. I suppose I need to build a driver w/ debug info and start tracing where its failing, don't I? [16:31] yeah some stuff that says chain prerouting [16:31] chain postrouting and chain output [16:32] yeah [16:33] longtitude (i=d01b4509@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6f8b432cd7b1547e) joined ##slackware. [16:33] firebird_619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [16:34] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left irc: [16:34] Nick change: o_astrologo -> thetrooper [16:34] eviljames: Pat had better performance with the latest intel driver: ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/individual/driver/xf86-video-intel-2.7.99.901.tar.bz2 [16:34] alienBOB: Thanks, I'll check it out. [16:34] Is there a slackware cd that has recovery or forensic tools on it? I looked in distrowatch and googled, but saw nothing. [16:34] But I do not know how stable it is. [16:35] longtitude: Parted Magic perhaps [16:35] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [16:35] I should not have done that wget under /exec :( [16:35] lol [16:35] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:35] longtitude: did you check slax? [16:36] Nick change: firebird_619 -> firebird619 [16:36] you can add anything you want in there live before downloading the iso [16:36] ;) [16:36] longtitude: http://partedmagic.com/programs.html for a list of what is available [16:36] Vic1ous, lsmod |grep -i nf_nat , any return ? [16:36] eviljames: alot of the UXA stuff was ironed out in 2.6.30 too [16:36] yes [16:36] alienBOB: that's where I am now - looking. [16:36] Vic1ous, name it [16:37] nf_nat, nf_conntrack_ipv4, nf_conntrack [16:37] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A74568.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:37] Parted Magic is based on a Slackware core [16:37] okay, it has the recovery tools I want - ddrescue and dc3dd, but no sleuthtool kit [16:38] Vic1ous, what about lsmod |grep -i ipt_MASQUERADE [16:38] thrice`: I actually already did 2.6.30 to try and resolve this lockup, but the kernel didn't seem to be an issue. [16:38] thrice`: I could ssh to the machine, and even kill Xorg (which would not come back up afterwards though) [16:38] nothing [16:38] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "()" [16:38] Vic1ous, modprobe ipt_MASQUERADE , and re-run iptables rule [16:38] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [16:39] slax looks cool - i dind't know it was customizable like that [16:40] well now this one does something "lsmod |grep -i ipt_MASQUERADE" but the other one still says can't initialize ip tables [16:40] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:41] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:43] The-Croupier: do you know how slax modues are built? I looked at the page but sleuthtool module does not exist. Can I build it from source. [16:44] i mean sleuthkit, not sleuthtool [16:44] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: "bleh" [16:44] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.41.51) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:45] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.94.68) joined ##slackware. [16:45] Vic1ous, modprobe ipt_MASQUERADE ; modprobe iptable_nat ; modprobe nf_nat ; modprobe nf_conntrack_ipv4 ; modprobe nf_conntrack ; modprobe nf_defrag_ipv4 ; modprobe iptable_filter ; modprobe ip_tables ; modprobe x_tables [16:46] copy and paste all of that? [16:46] yes [16:46] or modprobe each one [16:46] ok [16:46] FATAL: Module nf_defrag_ipv4 not found. [16:47] Action: Urchlay looks at all the peopel [16:47] Vic1ous, modprobe -l |grep -i nf_defrag_ipv4 [16:48] any return ? [16:48] good /(mor|eve)ning/ [16:48] no return [16:48] greetings Urchlay [16:48] so what are we gonna do tonight, Brain? [16:49] Vic1ous, uname -r ? [16:49] the same we do every night ? [16:49] try to take over the world ? [16:49] 2.6.27.7-smp [16:49] Vic1ous, u'r not on slackware current [16:49] maybe u should update your system [16:50] anyway , retry to run iptables rule [16:50] same thing [16:50] maybe i should just update slackware and try again [16:50] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:50] i downloaded the 12.2 iso [16:50] okay, so I read how to make a slax module - but I need to start with a tgz package. there is no tgz package for sleuthkit. Does anyone know a repository that has it? [16:50] longtitude, this is now slax channel [16:51] panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:51] Vic1ous, update your slackware to current , i have it working [16:52] should work with your kernel anyway [16:52] i know. I'm asking if there is a slackware packge for a program to *make* a slax module. Ignore the slax part...Im looking for a slackware package now. [16:52] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.106.248) joined ##slackware. [16:52] but i dont know what else to do [16:53] longtitude, there's src2pkg , that builds slackware packages from source [16:53] np thanks for the help man ill just figure out how to update to current and try again [16:53] Vic1ous, ok [16:53] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [16:53] DeeeeP: thanks! [16:54] longtitude: go to slackbuilds.org and read. sleuthkit is there. src2pkg is interesting too...I did not even know about that. [16:54] k. thanks. [16:54] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl9-40.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [16:55] longtitude (i=d01b4509@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6f8b432cd7b1547e) left ##slackware. [16:56] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:56] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[17:01] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:01] that's a driver option, so the answer is: probably [17:01] *poit* [17:02] v4nelle: it does [17:02] it's been supported since 1.2.3 from Xorg (radeonhd version number) [17:02] v4nelle: "man radeonhd" has useful info [17:02] firebird619: ping. [17:03] morning BP{k} [17:03] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "leaving" [17:03] i tell that because slack 12.2 has mesa 7.0.3 and needed 7.3 [17:03] heh, I just tried to tab-complete "morn" into "morning". Better finish my coffee... [17:04] v4nelle: ahh, that part I don't know about... but the latest update to -current has mesa 7.4.2 [17:04] i know that but i can;t install txz on slack 12.2 [17:04] jota- (n=jota@190.6.6.247) joined ##slackware. [17:05] i want to test it before go to vurrent [17:05] you can, if you really want, but don't. The odds are that a -current X library package won't work that well on 12.2 [17:05] Urchlay: howdy :) [17:05] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-138.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:06] hm. Is there a URL somewhere (chapter in the slackbook maybe) that explains in simple terms why people shouldn't mix-and-match bits of different slackware versions? [17:07] Urchlay: not in slackbook afaik. [17:07] v4nelle: also, I'd assume that, if you don't know Linux and Slack well enough to figure out how to install .txz packages on 12.2, then you shouldn't be doing it [17:08] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:09] ok.danke [17:09] v4nelle: what you might try instead would be to get the -current source for mesa and build your own 12.2 package for mesa 7.4.2 [17:09] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:09] (though I have no idea whether a newer mesa will compile or run with an old version of xorg like 12.2 has. Anyone else want to chime in?) [17:10] Urchlay: nope, it's all yours ;) [17:10] cmair (n=cmair@host21-58-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:10] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [17:11] is there another startup services apart from inetd.conf? [17:11] and why is it soooo quiet in here? [17:12] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) joined ##slackware. [17:12] The-Croupier, in /etc/rc.d/ u have some services [17:13] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:13] snowdonkey (i=1000@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:13] snowdonkey (i=1000@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:14] DeeeeP: and apart from that? [17:14] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [17:14] i put a rc.firewall in there, made it +x, but i want to know if it actually started or not [17:14] The-Croupier: iptables -L [17:14] The-Croupier: /etc/rc.d is where the magic happens, other than a few files in /etc like inittab, login.defs & profile [17:14] BP{k}: thats the one i think [17:15] thanks [17:15] or make script echo [17:15] if it shows things matching your iptables .. it works. [17:15] The-Croupier, uh, just putting a file in rc.d wont call it [17:16] BP{k}: it does show some stuff but im not happy [17:16] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [17:16] slackytude: in the case of rc.firewall; it does. [17:16] hrm [17:16] true, there was that [17:16] slackytude: yep. rc.firewall is called in rc.local i think [17:16] The-Croupier: try rc.inet2 [17:16] rite [17:16] Action: slackytude has no slack anymore [17:17] >.> [17:17] The-Croupier: nothing gets run from rc.local by *default* [17:17] BP{k}: what about rc.inet2 already there [17:17] BP{k}: eh, I was hoping to just paste a URL at v4nelle instead of coming up with a good explanation myself. Still about half asleep here... [17:18] The-Croupier: .... [17:18] BP{k}: do we have anything like a how to... to start closing some things up, playing with the security of slackware? been looking around but nothing happy [17:18] slackytude: if you lost your slack, how come you get to keep your tude? [17:18] Urchlay, magic [17:18] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:18] Urchlay: ;) [17:18] no, slakmagik is someone else [17:18] Urchlay, vodoo [17:18] hey The-Croupier [17:18] Action: slackytude slackvodoo [17:19] Nick change: slackytude -> slackvodoo [17:19] Urchlay: ;) heya bro [17:19] *sigh* [17:19] The-Croupier: there's plenty of guides around there :) google is your friend. [17:19] damn voodoo freaks, you better stay outa my chicken coop [17:19] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.5.122) joined ##slackware. [17:19] Action: slackvodoo will use goats then [17:20] slackvodoo: I thought you reserved those for those lonely [17:20] slackvodoo: I thought you reserved those for those lonely Sundays* [17:20] BP{k}: there was a command that showed services and then filtered open listen, netstat -ntup is not showing me anything? is it another command? [17:20] BP{k}, nah, I dont play with my ritual sacrifice volunteers [17:21] The-Croupier: nmap(1) ? [17:21] nmap external ip, would show me all the routers crap, and ill get pissed off [17:21] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:22] I read in some howto somewhere about launching rc.firewall from within or the bottom of rc.inet1 or rc.inet2 [17:22] yep it's in default rc.inet2 already (slack 12.2) [17:22] SlashQuit: there is already code present in rc.inet2 to check for the existence of rc.firewall and if present [and executable] .. run ti. [17:22] lol [17:22] oh you said that above [17:22] look in rc.M i think there is a line in there to run rc.firewall, if not you can put it in the bottom of that file [17:22] Action: BP{k} already mentioned that about 6 mintues ago. [17:22] lol [17:23] Action: BP{k} stabs Pig_Pen [17:23] The Moon will be Waxing Gibbous (99.999% of Full). (##slackware default Moon setting) [17:23] >.> [17:23] I think rc.firewall is called from rc.inet2 [17:23] :P [17:23] i think we need to go to a new subject [17:24] slackvodoo: i think so too now ;) lol [17:24] ^-^ [17:24] Nick change: slackvodoo -> slackytude [17:24] Necos: why you dont like it that the rc.firewall is started from rc.inet2 as BP{k} stated like 5times and others ignored him and said it again [17:25] BP{k}: sorry :( [17:25] The-Croupier: i don't really give a shit ^_^ [17:25] Necos: blasphemy [17:25] can anybody shed some light on the new xorg. as far as I heard it now uses hal to get devices? [17:25] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431443.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:26] i haven't even gotten a chance to try it out [17:26] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431443.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:26] or a link maybe? 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[17:32] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [17:33] is there a #slackware for real? [17:33] O yes [17:33] But you will never enter that [17:33] only people like Pat V, and Santa Clause and jesus are allowed in #slackware ;p [17:33] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [17:34] and only when wearing a "Cloak of magic source +18" [17:34] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [17:35] lol , alienBOB just did a demotivator [17:35] BP{k}, those are hard to get [17:35] alienBOB: dont be so harsh ;) [17:36] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [17:37] hello everyone, does someone knows if libcap has been changed? I'm trying to compile the virtual box slackbuild and I'm getting errors with libcap: http://pastebin.com/m2596b3ad looks like a missing include? [17:37] thats why slackware is so good, because Pat has an IRC channel to consult with developers with the rifraf bothering them [17:37] P4C0: it's virtualbox at fault [17:37] /s/with/without [17:38] rworkman, around? [17:38] it should be #include'ing before the #include [17:38] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:38] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.114.28.187.plusnet.thn-ag3.dyn.plus.net) left irc: "poep" [17:38] Urchlay: thanks :) [17:39] P4C0: even though the man page for libcap says that's only necessary if you're going to use certain libcap functions... the man page is wrong :) [17:39] Urchlay: :) [17:40] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:40] P4C0: as for virtualbox, you can either use vbox 2.2.2 instead of 2.1.2, or else come up with your own patch to 2.1.2 to fix it (I think it's just the ./configure script at fault) [17:40] Urchlay: yup, I'm modifing it [17:41] cool. I went with 2.2.2, so I have no patch for 2.1.2 [17:41] P4C0: also, if you're on slackware64, you'll find another problem: it bails out with "can't compile 32-bit applications" [17:42] :) thanks for the info, I'm on x86 [17:42] should be no problem then [17:42] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:43] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@autodiscover.cusonet.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:43] cmair (n=cmair@host21-58-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:44] panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [17:44] Nick change: stew -> HolieThePony [17:44] argh [17:47] cadmium (n=mark@86.99.30.71) joined ##slackware. [17:48] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-254-172.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[17:54] >.> [17:54] there's a space in front of it? :P [17:54] Urchlay: lol ;) apart from that? in the statement.... [17:55] The-Croupier, irssi? [17:55] I don't know, hardly ever use /ignore... [17:55] heret|c: yep [17:55] possibly the commas aren't supposed to be there? [17:55] just sometimes confuse terminals and get in other stuff [17:55] http://wouter.coekaerts.be/site/irssi/wclf The-Croupier [17:55] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [17:56] now i'm afk. later guys [17:56] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:56] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-28-50.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:57] heret|c: thanks [17:57] bye [17:58] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:59] monstro (i=1000@187.10.65.188) joined ##slackware. [17:59] hi all, [17:59] v4nelle (n=van@adsl150-187.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:59] /ignore #slackware joins quits parts <--this is what ignore help says..but i still see them :( [17:59] where I find a good tutorial of how to compile a kernel ? [18:00] anyone suggest ? [18:01] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?do=search&id=kernel&fulltext=Search [18:01] i always use that ;) [18:01] works like a charm [18:01] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=linux:kernelbuilding is the direct link [18:01] alienBOB: ;) [18:03] you can also build your own without any safety net, it will teach you a lot while you're trying to boot again ;) [18:03] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:04] Camarade_Tux: you mean the kernel panic fun? [18:04] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) joined ##slackware. [18:04] The-Croupier, and lots more ! [18:05] peyo (n=peyo@aut75-2-82-66-93-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:05] forgetting fs support ;) love that part [18:05] oh the panic when the keyboard starts flashing like the caution lights at a school crossing zone :D [18:05] like "hmmm, where is /dev/dvd gone?" or "can't dim the backlight of the screen and getting blind" [18:05] and a nice one : get rid of networking support so you can't google anymore :) [18:05] peyo (n=peyo@aut75-2-82-66-93-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:06] lol [18:07] Camarade_Tux: i find it funny, cos ive done some of it in the past ;) [18:09] hope this worked.... lets see if someone joins now ;) mwahhahahahah [18:10] midnight_sun (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [18:11] forgetting the framebuffer stuff is nice as well. everything boots but you dont see a thing [18:11] yeah har har that forgetting fs support, that really brought a tear ^H^H^H^H smile to my face the other day. [18:11] sh0ne_ (n=sh0ne@93.86.93.121) joined ##slackware. [18:11] y0 Camarade_Tux [18:11] still awake? [18:11] yoyo slackytude :) [18:11] yeah, still awake ;) [18:11] just about to go to bed [18:12] I have a math exam on tomorrow though (that's maybe why I'm still awake actually ;) ) [18:12] yeah, going soon to [18:12] snowdonkey (i=1000@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:12] eek! [18:12] good luck [18:12] gnite from me as well guys [18:12] have a good one ;) [18:12] gnite The-Croupier [18:12] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [18:12] and yeah, the framebuffer is really nice to fsck : like "crap, no display, I'll just startx : wait for the computer to boot, root, $pass, startx and a big relief" :) [18:13] night The-Croupier [18:13] sh0ne__ (n=sh0ne@93.87.215.22) joined ##slackware. [18:14] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [18:15] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [18:16] http://saveie6.com/ <- the worst part is that I agree with "You have been mislead by a vocal minority and are using firefox, which is clearly an inferior web browser to IE6." ^^ [18:16] Action: slackytude slaps Camarade_Tux [18:16] the fear of the math exam has made you insane [18:16] KillerV (i=1000@189037003055.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:17] slackytude, ph34r ? /me ph34rs n0th|nG [18:17] "n07h|nG", sorry -_- [18:18] but don't worry, the website is at least a bit ironic ;) [18:18] Action: firebird619 pokes Camarade_Tux. How's it going? [18:18] hey firebird619 ! going nice, thanks. what about you ? [18:19] Camarade_Tux, I gathered that. Otherwise I had to assume you really became mad [18:19] Camarade_Tux: going excellent, thanks. :) [18:19] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [18:19] slackytude, I don't have firefox on my win7 system :) [18:19] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: Client Quit [18:19] and if I have a problem with ie8, I fire putty and use links/lynx :) [18:19] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [18:19] I also use wget sometimes [18:20] Camarade_Tux: how's win7 for ya? [18:21] slackmagic, I find it nicer than vista, I've tweaked it a bit and ram isn't too high (x64, and about 300MB at boot iirc) [18:21] y0 slackmagic, how's it going? [18:22] some nice things, having a wm is quite nice especially, and visually I find it a bit better than vista (but that's maybe because I tweaked it) [18:22] and last, I've killed IE I think, it freezes and takes the system with it :) (killing it is effective and nothing is lost) [18:22] monstro (i=1000@187.10.65.188) left irc: Client Quit [18:23] btw, about IE8, its tab recovery really works well, it never failed for me (whereas ff's did several times) [18:23] Camarade_Tux: ah cool...i haven't played with vista so i wouldn't really know but it's good to know win7 is less "resource-hungry?!" hehe [18:24] win7 is nice [18:24] explorer still sucks [18:24] firebird619: doing well...chatting on my g1 here at work [18:24] the file exporer I mean [18:24] slackmagic: nice [18:24] anyway,gonna go catch some sleep [18:24] see ya slackers [18:24] slackytude, well, I've never really used vista either, couldn't stand it [18:24] Camarade_Tux, good luck [18:24] BP{k}: you around? bitlbee won't work for me. I get this: ERROR :Warning: Permission problem: Can't read/write from/to `/var/lib/bitlbee/'. [18:24] Camarade_Tux, well, who can? [18:24] yeah, gonna sleep too :) [18:24] slackytude, hehe :p [18:25] slackytude, thanks :) [18:25] see ya slackytude. :) [18:25] Action: slackytude waves o/ [18:25] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A74568.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:25] \o [18:25] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:26] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@CPE-58-165-93-206.qld.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:27] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [18:27] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@79.101.246.163) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:28] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:45] sh0ne__ (n=sh0ne@93.87.215.22) left irc: "Leaving" [18:46] Nick change: HolieThePony -> stew [18:46] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:49] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) left irc: "out" [18:49] chopp (i=1000@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [18:50] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:51] cadmium (n=mark@86.99.30.71) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:52] chopp (i=1000@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [18:53] <|alisonken1churc> oh - wait - this isn't windows [18:55] |alisonken1churc: Dude, Windows has permissions. [18:55] |alisonken1churc: It just doesn't enforce them. [18:55] Well, except for drm [18:55] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [18:55] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) left irc: "Saliendo" [18:56] <|alisonken1churc> :) [18:56] <|alisonken1churc> don't forget IE [18:57] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:57] join ##woodchucks [18:57] NO [18:57] bahh [18:57] Action: andarius slaps himself [18:57] fail [18:57] woodchucks? [18:57] little furry critters :P [18:58] cmk_zzz: yeah, the perms on /var/lib/bitlbee are nobody and nogroup. What should they be? [18:58] i know the literal meaning, i thought there might be some metophor i was missing [18:58] duun duuun DUUUN [18:58] http://noobfarm.org/?id=18 [18:58] firebird619: That's probably correct. How do you start bitlebee? [18:58] ^^ NukeDukem [18:58] at any rate, greetings and salutations [18:59] bijit (i=1000@190.241.15.48) joined ##slackware. [18:59] cmk_zzz: /usr/sbin/bitlbee from a terminal. [19:00] bad firebird619 [19:00] BP{k}: What'd I do now? I FAIL, I know. [19:00] firebird: you running it as nobody? [19:00] the permissions on var/lib/bitlbee are fine and correct. [19:01] firebird619: read the README :) [19:01] bad firebird619... no cookie :P [19:02] BP{k}: the readme on SBo? I did. I've added the line to inetd.conf, restarted inetd, etc. [19:02] so why do you run it from the terminal? [19:02] andarius: I have my own chocolate chip cookies here, so, I can haz cookie, you just won't see/know about it. [19:02] :) [19:02] firebird619: and if you nmap your localhost .. do you see port 6667 open? [19:03] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Client Quit [19:03] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [19:04] yeah [19:05] spook (n=spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:05] firebird619: than bitlbee is running fine. [19:05] Action: andarius stole all your cookies :P [19:06] firebird619: I think I can understand where your confusion is. [19:06] all your cookies are belong to andarius :o [19:06] bitlbee is not a client that you run, it's a daemon. You use an irc client (such as irssi, or whatever) to connect to the bitlbee daemon [19:07] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] andarius: NO, you can't haz my cookies. :( [19:07] :P [19:07] mm, kaka [19:08] this flash plugin needs some tweaking (slow on certain pages, doesn't load everything, some parts on some pages are blank) [19:08] BP{k}: yeah, I had seen it was a daemon. I shall read more. thanks. [19:08] firebird619: what you do next is; is to set up irssi to connect to your localhost on port 6667. then follow the instructions here on how to setup accounts; http://tinyurl.com/5wb9fo [19:09] k, thank you. [19:09] SlashQuit: you're just now realizing that flash plugin sucks? [19:09] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:09] I did say 'sucks' but deleted that word, incase it's just my config of it, lol. [19:10] it works, but it sucks [19:10] and yes, I'm on day .. 2 or 3 of KDE. Still applying lube on an hourly basis. [19:10] internetz.. [19:13] spook (n=spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [19:15] gnodes (n=staples@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:15] hi, is anyone familiar with how privoxy works? [19:15] gustaf_ (n=gustaf@cm-84.215.92.40.getinternet.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:15] i can't seem to get it working correctly :/ [19:16] works here [19:16] did you follow the instructions? [19:16] Also, How did you install it? [19:16] well, it was briefly covered in tor; I used the slackbuild [19:17] i had to, to follow tor's directions [19:17] did you follow all of the verbose instructions from the slackbuild? [19:17] I keep getting a '500 Internal Privoxy Error' page when i go to http://p.p [19:18] yes, i did [19:18] i only see 2 lines to do in those instructions though, so its possible i missed some hints somewhere [19:18] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [19:18] i've verified that privoxy is running as well [19:19] Do you have a line like this in your privoxy config: forward-socks4a / 127.0.0.1:9050 . [19:19] it says 'could not load template file default or one of its invluded components'; yes i have that line [19:20] but whats strange is that the default template is in fact in /etc/privoxy/templates [19:20] I have never needed to mess around with any templates [19:20] It just works [19:20] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:20] i used the config provided by the tor wiki [19:20] (i dont care about privoxy, i wanted tor, anyway) [19:21] gustaf_ (n=gustaf@cm-84.215.92.40.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [19:21] Well you should use privoxy with Tor anyway [19:21] otherwise you might as well not even use Tor [19:21] thats what im trying to do :) [19:21] can i take a peak at your privoxy config file? [19:21] /etc/privoxy/config [19:21] It's the default config [19:21] yes, but i've overwritten it; can I see it? [19:22] All I did was make sure I had that line: forward-socks4a / 127.0.0.1:9050 . [19:22] no [19:22] kitche2 (n=dragon@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [19:22] get it again from the slackbuild package [19:22] are you intentionally being difficult? [19:22] no are you? [19:22] germany has been sensoring the intertubes lately, i seen an article about it at /. [19:22] you have the package... [19:22] Action: gnodes wonders why this guy is here if it's not to boost his ego [19:23] Action: antiwire wonders why this guy can't just get the config from the package he built which exists on his own system [19:23] "this guy" has a perfectly valid point of the default file being in the package [19:23] yes, yes, he is correct. [19:23] I can answer both questions: STFUN00BSRTFMBBQ! [19:23] 'correct'. [19:24] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:26] eviljames: I'm not the one with a broken privoxy so clearly I read the manual [19:26] That was a plural N00BS you n00b [19:27] n00by d00bie [19:27] Eh, I'll figure it out, but you're a jerk, dude. [19:27] Thank you. [19:27] You're just lazy. [19:27] Yes, but I have friend IRL. [19:27] *a friend [19:27] antiwire: wanna come to my irl bbq? [19:27] Action: eviljames likes tlas [19:27] eviljames: can i have some IRL meat? [19:28] http://www.instantrimshot.com/ [19:28] Man, I bet a typo of that yields some cool results. [19:28] I wonder if people who are jerks on the internet are nice people in person [19:28] I find it very hard to believe [19:28] gnodes: Absolutely not, I'm worse in person [19:28] gnodes: stfu and read like the rest of us do [19:29] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:29] You can actually see my facial expressions in person, so on here you don't get the full effect. [19:29] That mentality reminds me of the anonymous group running around a couple years ago. I'm just sayin'. [19:29] I'm polite enough in person. Though, I tend to actually yell RTFM at people. [19:29] I mean [19:29] eviljames: I yell that too with a really messed up face. [19:30] People behaving badly, and priding themselves at their lack of social prowess. 'I am proud of being an obstacle to progress'. I just can't sympathize with it; I find it to be what's wrong with very much of society. [19:30] i like to yell RTFM while holdind a butcher knife [19:30] yelling RTFM is fun, though [19:30] gnodes: most of slackware well tell you to read up before you ask your question which it seems like you did not do your research [19:30] NukeDukem: that'll convince 'em. [19:30] gnodes: You you built the package yourself. You have the package and you even have the sources yet you think it was mean of me to make you get the config from your own system even after you built it yourself? [19:30] gnodes: Did I get this correct? [19:31] I won't say another word about it, as I can already read the rationalizations forming. This is groupthink. [19:31] yes we collectivly think you're an lazy ass. ;-) [19:31] rationalizations? you have the default config right there with you. [19:31] Yes, I've retrieved it. [19:31] But that doesn't mean you're not a jerk. lol. [19:31] great so the problem is solved and you did it yourself. congrats. [19:32] welcome to the "tard color in my wu_nickcolor.pl" [19:32] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [19:32] gnodes: I'm a jerk for making you use the most common sense method of getting the default config? [19:32] chopp: Do I have tread colours? [19:32] Action: kitche2 thinks there should be a We are not #ubuntu in the topic :) [19:32] no, you're a jerk because you made something easy have an extra step for the sole purpose of boosting your ego, which I find intolerable in my friends, and foul in my strangers. [19:33] "Nobody is here to hold your hand, better have your flame suit on, chump" pretty much should be the topic. [19:33] Action: gnodes gets off the soap box [19:33] gnodes: That's not accurate at all. You tried to delegate a task to someone else when that task was easier completed by yourself. [19:34] Kinni (n=Kinni@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [19:34] is the synaptics driver built into 12.2's x/ series? [19:34] When I decided not to accept your lazy delegation, I became a jerk to you. [19:34] That's convenient. [19:34] Action: gnodes renames antiwire to jerkwire [19:35] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.173.137) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:35] oh firefox 3.5 is RC now [19:36] gnodes (n=staples@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "jerk :)" [19:36] sticks and stones, bitch [19:36] It still needs to be even faster [19:37] haha [19:38] Firefox 3.5 gives me a fever. [19:38] And the only presecription. [19:38] Is more cowbell. [19:38] rub some turd over your head [19:38] where did that more cowbell thing come from anyways? [19:38] kitche2: It was a Chris Walken sketch on SNL [19:39] kitche2: s/was a/was a hysterical/ [19:39] check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_cowbell [19:39] it was a classic [19:39] ah I went to walmart the other and they had gremlins anniversy dvd was gonna buy it it broguht back so m any good memories [19:39] Gremlins, or gremlins2:The New Batch? [19:39] I got a FEVER! [19:39] I remember one of 'em had a video game, I think for the NES. [19:40] explore the space [19:40] eviljames: think it was Gremlins [19:40] here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4royOLtvmQ [19:40] danny tanner [19:40] since it was all about furby from the back of the box [19:40] jeev-0 ! [19:40] /whoise ujesse [19:41] where is is uncle jesse [19:41] i wanted to buy a CDrom of Jethro Tull Aqualung and walmart did not even have it, no Jethro Tull CDs at all [19:41] hahah, I never realized that the reason they were calling him "THE bruce dickinson" was to make fun of maiden. That actually gives me a second chuckle over the sketch [19:42] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.94.68) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:42] buckethead rulez! [19:42] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-183-135.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:42] dtanner: truth. Did you hear his work on Guns 'n Roses: Chinese Democracy? [19:42] yup [19:42] eelriver (n=eelriver@67.102.106.32) joined ##slackware. [19:42] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.60.84) joined ##slackware. [19:43] i guess i will send my Jethro Tull money to Slackware.com [19:43] eviljames: i like computerMaster, SoothSayer and Jordan a lot too. [19:43] Pig_Pen: Send it to me, I will make sure Pat gets it. :) [19:44] dtanner: Pretty much all his work is genius. [19:44] dtanner: You aren't a King Crimson / Robert Fripp fan at all are you? [19:44] sure, as soon as i make sure it is ok with Pat first [19:44] eviljames: the dude can play teh guitar [19:44] Fripp? Or Buckethead? [19:44] eviljames: i used to listen to King Crimson [19:44] Buckethead [19:44] can't remember owning any Fripp [19:44] hmmm anyone know how to forge an MX [19:45] I don't know how anyone can "used to" listen to KC... (Fripp is the guitar player for KC, but also does solo/side projects) [19:45] eviljames: i don't remember much about them [19:45] Computer Master makes me want to break out my Ring Modulator and play through it. [19:46] eviljames: i wonder what synthesizer he uses? [19:46] Nick change: Guest59118 -> Dominus [19:46] dtanner: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_modulation [19:47] Nick change: Dominus -> TheTrash [19:47] uva (i=bno@118-168-237-187.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:47] dtanner: I have one of those suckers built in to a multi-effect board, it sounds ... well, frankly, upside down. [19:47] heh [19:48] I dont use many FX other than delay and chorus anymore [19:48] Don't lie. I heard you play, it was soaked in reverb :P [19:48] well yes reverb is a given =) [19:48] i thought that was required [19:48] :P [19:48] Action: eviljames plays dry. [19:49] Guitar -> Amp, crank it up to 11. [19:49] hehe [19:49] The tiny purple fishes run laughing through your fingers, [19:49] eviljames: i was telling my son about my days many years ago when i played a 100 watt tube ampeg that only had volume-bass-mid-trble and the the way i got distortion was to just turn it up [19:50] ooh, I'm watching a vid of computer master, the little kill switch bit near the end is pretty fun. If you have independent pickup volume controls you can fake it [19:50] Add on some delay and it sounds like crazy computer noises.. [19:50] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:50] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:51] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [19:51] I play through a marshall 2-12 combo and a crate all tube 2-12 combo nowadyas ( simultaneously ) [19:51] Kinni (n=Kinni@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:52] Yeah, you were telling me about the twin amp approach. I like it. I run a Washburn guitar into a Randall Titan and CRANK it. [19:52] I don't "chain" or "slave" them , i split my signal and send to each amp [19:53] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:54] eviljames: oh , i like the sound a Randall amp gets. def leppard used them on many albums. [19:54] Totally, I think Randall are crazy... this one is 300W and is just LOUD. [19:54] The clean channel doesn't really distort, even with the volume at 7-8.. great power control. [19:55] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:56] midnight_sun (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [19:57] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [19:59] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [20:01] 19:08 and still 99 F outside [20:01] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:01] damnit i hate the south [20:01] its all a matter of impedence balancing which is better than more wattage [20:02] anTraxc (n=gts@189-041-54-027.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [20:02] MrJacks0n (i=Mr@173-86-46-72.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [20:03] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [20:03] grekkos_ (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:05] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "logout" [20:08] MrJackson (n=MrJackso@173-86-46-72.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:08] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [20:09] dtanner : 64F here. and wet [20:09] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:09] this year we've exceeded the typical rainfall, after a few years of shortfall [20:09] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.106.248) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:09] ananke, about 90'f and sunny [20:10] ocean is about 90'f too [20:11] its raining here too..flooding [20:11] ananke: yeah , lucky you with the temp. [20:11] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) joined ##slackware. [20:12] straterra : we've had flash flood watch every other day for a month now [20:12] i hear ya [20:12] not every day..but its been rainy here [20:12] where are you two from? [20:13] I'm in Indy [20:13] My AC unit was flooding, does that count? [20:13] agentc0re : i'm in southwestern virginia [20:13] artv61 (n=artv61@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] Ah, you guys are getting the shitty storms we had this weekend and last week. [20:13] hey all [20:14] ananke: did u go to SELF? [20:14] red hat has their own hypervisor now well it's beta but it's built on kvm [20:14] I wish i lived in cali for a few months [20:14] artv61 : SELF? [20:14] (I removepkg ac-unit-door, recompiled with --drain=unblocked, installed the package again, all good.) [20:14] i want to take my car out to rre [20:15] south east linux fest ananke [20:15] be the first 4g twin turbo eclipse [20:16] rob workman and alan hicks both spoke their [20:16] artv61 : ahh, i saw it mentioned on one of the local lug's mailing list. nope, didn't go. [20:16] cadmium (n=mark@86.99.30.71) joined ##slackware. [20:17] i barely have enough time for conferences i want to go to :) [20:17] you missed a great event [20:18] cadmium (n=mark@86.99.30.71) left ##slackware. [20:18] i'm sure [20:19] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.7.17) joined ##slackware. [20:20] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:21] although this time i'd have to make sure we get a bigger car. last month i went to jboss training, and got a chevy cobalt for me and another sysadmin [20:21] wow, actually, the water temp is 91'f [20:22] edman007: are you still on your post grad vacation? [20:22] hell yea! [20:22] awsome [20:22] go home on thursday [20:23] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-156-116.epm.net.co) left irc: "leaving" [20:24] doglino (n=doglino@189.4.126.194) joined ##slackware. [20:24] hello I want to write a driver for floppy as exercise, it is a hard worK? [20:25] doglino : yes. and you'd be better off in #linux, or #kernelnewbies on oftc [20:25] ananke ok [20:25] doglino (n=doglino@189.4.126.194) left ##slackware. [20:26] Malk667 (n=kvirc@189-015-106-178.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [20:26] ananke, jboss training? [20:27] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:27] anybody here is going to FISL? [20:28] nachox : yes? [20:29] ananke, i found it odd that you'd go to such trainings, i thought your work was more geared to os administration, networking and backup [20:30] nachox : it was jboss administration training [20:32] our 'portal' group wants to use jboss portal solution. so they paid for our training [20:32] FISL? [20:33] explain! [20:34] edman007: =] Is an international forum made in Brasil about software libre [20:35] ananke, i see... was it worth it? [20:36] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@20151138048.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [20:36] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [20:36] upyr[emacs] (n=emacs@79.174.35.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:36] jupengfei (n=jupengfe@58.30.9.140) joined ##slackware. [20:37] Nick change: jupengfei -> yiyee [20:37] yiyee (n=jupengfe@58.30.9.140) left irc: Client Quit [20:38] nachox : hmm, maybe. it gave us a good thorough overview of what jboss can do, and how it does on the backend [20:38] this will save us time in the future [20:38] wwooowww (n=jupengfe@58.30.9.140) joined ##slackware. [20:38] other_rafa (n=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) joined ##slackware. [20:40] hi all, I have a problem with alsamixer. I have installed slim on my slack12.2, but when i logged in with slim, i have no permissions on /dev/snd/*, when I logged in with runlevel3, I have the permissions. [20:41] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-32-177.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [20:41] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:41] anyone can help me ? [20:41] slim? [20:43] wwooowww : runlevel shouldn't have any impact on what permissions are there on those device nodes [20:43] wwooowww : make sure the user you're running slim as has permissions to access those files [is in audio group] [20:44] what the hell is slim? [20:44] lol [20:45] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SqueezeCenter [20:46] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [20:48] you sure that is the slim he's talking about? [20:48] I know he broguth up alsamixer but the way he said it does not sound like that [20:49] i'd be sure, if he'd bother to participate in the discussion :) [20:49] interesting [20:50] wwooowww: are you talking about the login manager? [20:50] ananke: yeh, my user is in the audio group [20:51] bbl [20:51] ananke: but when i'm logged in with slim , run command "groups", there are only wheel and users [20:51] kitche2: yes, now is in icewm, use slim [20:51] wwooowww : well, there's your problem [20:51] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [20:52] root user can run alsamixer [20:52] root user can play video and sound [20:52] but my user can not [20:52] wwooowww : were you reading what i told you earlier? your slim user needs to be in the audio group [20:53] when i logged in runlevel3, my groups is : users, audio, cdrom.. etc. but in runlevel4, groups only wheel and users [20:53] wwooowww : i doubt it [20:53] ananke: slim is ran by root [20:53] ananke: and there is no slim user, only a gdm [20:54] wwooowww : then you'd have no permission issues. [20:54] do you get an error? [20:55] wwoowww: grep ^audio /etc/group . Is your user in that file? [20:55] ananke: i think you are right, but i find no way. the system have no user "slim" [20:55] wwooowww : do you get an error or not? [20:56] ananke: get an error: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory [20:56] and how is that a 'permission' issue, when it tells you that it can't find it? [20:57] ananke: I have strace the alsamixer running, yes, it's permission issue [20:57] show us. strace -e trace=open -t [20:57] ev'nin [20:58] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:58] ananke: 08:58:10 open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3 [20:58] 08:58:10 open("/lib/libncurses.so.5", O_RDONLY) = 3 [20:58] 08:58:10 open("/usr/lib/libasound.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3 [20:58] Channel flood from wwooowww -- kicking [20:58] 08:58:10 open("/lib/libm.so.6", O_RDONLY) = 3 [20:58] 08:58:10 open("/lib/libdl.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3 [20:58] wwooowww kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [20:58] argh [20:58] haw haw [20:59] pastebin man [20:59] wwooowww (n=jupengfe@58.30.9.140) joined ##slackware. [20:59] sitting down just in time to watch someone get kicked is always fun [21:00] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [21:00] wwooowww (n=jupengfe@58.30.9.140) left irc: "leaving" [21:00] wwoowww (n=jupengfe@58.30.9.140) joined ##slackware. [21:01] Action: wwoowww i'm sorry, i pasted too many lines. [21:01] don't be sorry, just don't do it :P [21:01] Nick change: thetrooper -> [] [21:02] Nick change: [] -> [ [21:02] ananke: did you see the texts of strace results [21:02] Nick change: [ -> thetrooper [21:03] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [21:04] wwoowww : no, you were kicked. use pastebin next time [21:04] i think chmod -R 777 /dev/snd may could solved this problem [21:04] ananke: i know :-( [21:04] chopp: did you see what bell did today? [21:05] eviljames: no I didn't? [21:06] ananke: here: http://pastebin.com/m1fd91e89 [21:07] chopp: apparently they decided to close the Bell Video Store, which will mean a whole new batch of drm losers. [21:08] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:10] maddslacker (i=1809b582@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f9b59d63878e810c) joined ##slackware. [21:11] has anyone here read The Crying of Lot 49 [21:11] i'm thinking about reading it [21:14] eviljames: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090615/0314585235.shtml [21:14] nheco (n=nheco@189-10-173-1.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:15] you know food prep takes a long time [21:15] now it's time for a Tim Hortons :P [21:15] I really need a girlfriend who likes to cook so she'll just like doing it in the first place [21:15] antiwire: watcha making [21:16] antiwire: man can I relate to that statement! [21:16] oh shoot. i forgot to eat. i think i'll make some tacos [21:16] baked potatoes and chili with pan roasted asparagus+lemon [21:16] chopp: that's a good take on it, provided that nobody was buying. [21:16] that's all the crap i had left too [21:17] eviljames: yeah I knew nothing of the service myself. I'm guessing you liked and used it. [21:19] anTraxc (n=gts@189-041-54-027.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:21] uva (i=bno@118-168-237-187.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:21] maddslacker (i=1809b582@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f9b59d63878e810c) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [21:22] chopp: neither, actually, I've been burned by drm before though. [21:22] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [21:25] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:25] freack (n=frk@201-14-223-5.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[21:43] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [21:43] where did you get mplyer gnubien ? [21:44] Havacci (n=havacci@unaffiliated/havacci) joined ##slackware. [21:45] ang (n=ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:46] uva (i=bno@118-160-175-42.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [21:46] As andarius said, it's used for playing media over an SMB share. [21:46] If you didn't have that share mapped, anyway. [21:47] You can probably toggle it off at compile time with --without-smb or something. [21:47] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-159-154.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [21:47] my slackware laptop pwntz now [21:47] wifi like a mofo [21:48] Action: antiwire pwntz beatzz [21:48] :o [21:48] anywaz, thanks fer all the help i got from this channel [21:48] you think it all ends with getting the wifi working but 10 years later and you're addicted to Slack [21:49] :o [21:49] Pat's no dummy. He knows how to get followers. [21:49] to be honest ive been trying to merge to slack since slack 10 [21:49] Like a pusher [21:49] the very first distro of linux i was introduced to by my room mate [21:50] litte update here, new release there, he knows exactly what he's doing [21:50] now, i finaly feel as tho I can use it. [21:50] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:51] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:52] Hmm. [21:52] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:52] uva (i=bno@118-160-175-42.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:52] -current update only happened two hours ago. [21:52] /quit [21:52] wwoowww (n=jupengfe@58.30.9.140) left irc: "leaving" [21:53] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-159-154.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:55] And KDE still hangs on load. [21:55] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. 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[22:40] Nick change: TClayton_ -> TClayton [22:41] i ran virtualbox for a little while [22:41] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.7.17) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:42] Havacci (n=havacci@unaffiliated/havacci) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:43] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [22:43] <|Slacker|> NukeDukem, just can't make my pendrive work on windows in vb [22:44] look in the config while the guest os is not loaded [22:44] <|Slacker|> NukeDukem, already set evertything in the config but no success [22:44] preferences for whatever guest OS you want to use the pendrive on [22:45] <|Slacker|> the weird thing is that my dvd ram is usb and it works fine [22:45] _ohm (n=nava@pool-71-99-30-120.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:45] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@63.243.153.20) left irc: Operation timed out [22:45] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:45] i am no expert with it, my best guess would be to search vbox's forums or linuxquestions [22:45] <|Slacker|> NukeDukem, okies, thanks anyway [22:46] slackware-current/source/a/aaa_base/slackware-version: Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 [22:46] nice :-) [22:46] <|Slacker|> coolies [22:46] Malk667 (n=kvirc@189-015-106-178.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left ##slackware ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away"). [22:48] cat /etc/slackware-version [22:48] Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 [22:50] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [22:50] uh how do i mount this usb thumb drive [22:50] the issue is i'm on the virtualbox set up [22:50] <|Slacker|> jeev, hahaha...same darn problem here [22:51] heh [22:51] he he slackware 13 'round the corner boyeez [22:51] <|Slacker|> wooohooo!!! [22:51] chess: yeah.. you just notice that!? [22:51] :) [22:51] Dominian: yep [22:51] <|Slacker|> jeev, I'll ask linuxquestions [22:51] I didn't even realize it either, until chess said it [22:51] i need it now, i'll figure something else out i guess [22:52] haha [22:52] i just wanna copy memtest there [22:52] i wont be in a hurry to wipe 12.2 off for 13, i will give it a spin in an extra disk partition for a while and make sure the rest of the family wants to use kde4 first [22:52] NukeDukem: just shove it down their throats like the BOFH you are, baby [22:52] I saw the aaa_base update in the ChangeLog and checked the source tree. [22:52] jeev: what are you trying to do? [22:52] chess: yah [22:52] lol, not me, i dont want to be sleeping on the couch, or worse in the dog house [22:53] well the aaa_base package version should've tipped you off ;) [22:53] Hmm. [22:53] Dominian: :-) [22:53] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:53] I could get used to Xfce. [22:53] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.30.68) joined ##slackware. [22:53] I'm stoked, that means RC's are on the way [22:53] Action: |Slacker| is an xfce freak [22:53] Action: Dominian is on slackware64-current [22:53] NukeDukem: I face off against the same challenge. gf is not interested in kde4 until digiKam and amaroK work flawlessly. [22:54] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@default-ip-teleglobe.shellfusion.net) joined ##slackware. [22:54] you might have to wait a while [22:55] 0.9 and 1.4 were excellent, 0.10 doesn't sem to be a large departure and amarok2 s coming along. [22:55] oh, you gotta add it in the usb section [22:56] jeev: eh? [22:56] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:56] eh [22:56] dualboot 12.2 & 13 that way you dont have to go in to kde4 cold turkey and you can get everything the way you want it on kde4 and still have 12.2 to fall back on when you need it [22:57] using virtualbox, trying to get usb to work [22:57] it's detecting the hub but not the thumbdrive [22:57] jeev: you have usb turned on in the VM right? [22:57] like.. before you start the VM.. in the usb setup portion of the Vm configuration? [22:58] yea [22:58] i do. [22:58] <|Slacker|> the same happens with me here [22:59] <|Slacker|> my dvd usb drive is detected and works perfectly but not the thumbdrive [23:03] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:03] shit man i took the cdrom out of my brothers computer [23:03] now i have to run memtest and i cant [23:05] <|Slacker|> jeev, I found some solution, but then my mouse stopped working, it's a permission issue [23:05] shit, it worked then virtualbox crashed lol [23:05] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:06] no, it worked [23:06] let me try to boot [23:07] vbox-ose does not have usb support... vbox ptuel does [23:07] <|Slacker|> VampirePenguin, well it's working now [23:08] qemu is easier [23:08] and qemu-kvm is quick [23:08] yup, worked [23:08] and my brother has bad ram [23:08] wait til they change revs on you and you cant use your vms [23:08] <|Slacker|> jeev, what have you done? [23:08] you will be so joyed [23:09] unless ovf fixes that problem [23:09] other_rafa (n=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) left irc: "Leaving" [23:09] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [23:10] dunno [23:10] i just clicked usb on the otp [23:10] t9op an enabled the printer [23:10] and it showed the thumb drive [23:11] vbox needs its guest modules to fully function [23:11] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:12] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:13] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [23:21] Nestor (n=Nestor@189-015-215-053.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:21] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("()"). [23:22] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [23:22] Nestor (n=Nestor@189-015-215-053.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [23:24] hi [23:25] <|Slacker|> hi [23:25] ello [23:26] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:26] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [23:26] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "leaving" [23:30] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [23:31] has anyone had a fair follicle drug test? [23:31] hair* [23:32] lol nope [23:32] but you're screwed [23:33] shave ur head [23:33] ;) [23:33] it ain't no pee pee test that you can dilute by drinking copious quantities of water and pissing your brains out ;) [23:33] and no facial hair [23:33] hehe [23:34] hell just use a whole bottle of nair [23:34] fix it all [23:34] They can always ask for a blood test if you refuse urine and hair [23:34] i'm not being tested :P [23:34] i want to have my hair tested... interested to know if they can build a 'drug use' timeline [23:34] want to graph it ;x [23:35] gonna email one of these labs. [23:35] only users lose drugs [23:35] lol [23:36] hair is about 3' long so i'm wondering how far they can go back [23:36] ;P [23:36] acidchild: I think that type of testing could cost much more than just the normal test that examines the 'fresh' tissue at the base of the hair strand [23:36] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left irc: "kernel adjustments..." [23:36] heh [23:37] for the drug test, they are looking for recent use which means they only need to examine the the fleshy part on the end of the hair [23:37] why couldn't someone blow up charter [23:37] nar, they use cuttings actully [23:37] 30days per 1/2" of hair [23:37] the people I've talked to about it said they just pop a whole hair, but I guess that doesn't mean they don't cut it later right [23:37] just wondered, i've done my research ;x [23:38] dang. [23:38] yeah, i thought they had to pull it.. guess that shows the most recent use... which maybe the reason behind the test. [23:38] my hair is pretty damn long [23:41] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:43] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.60.84) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:43] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "some man pieces, so many images, so ... fuck this" [23:44] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.21.133) joined ##slackware. [23:46] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:46] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:49] antiwire: so shave your head [23:49] Howdy, so I installed grub from the extra packages for slackware 12.2 and my frame buffer console does some hairy voodoo...is this what I get for changing from lilo? [23:49] I'm not being tested buddy [23:50] and I'm waiting to shave it until it is all over 18+ inches [23:50] that way I can give it to the cancer foundation for cancer patients [23:50] aim 6.9 deleted my buddy list [23:52] jeev: that's what you get for using AIM instead of the alternatives [23:53] :/ [23:53] ahh pidgin shows them [23:54] jeev: you should export a list right now [23:54] Slackware 12.2.0 [23:54] oops [23:55] wrong box [23:56] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:00] --- Wed Jun 17 2009