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[01:12] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@190.27.144.210) left irc: Changing host [01:12] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [01:12] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:12] gh0st (~gh0st@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:13] Does anyone here work professionally as a computer programmer? [01:13] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:15] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:15] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:15] hmm 0 seeds and 0 peers for slackware iso...i must not have the right ports open [01:16] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: ...you missed the starting gun. [01:16] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:16] ercula (~ercula@174-20-111-177.mpls.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:17] gh0st (~gh0st@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:18] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [01:19] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:20] anyone know why my sound works on firefox but not any of my music playing apps >_> [01:21] lol I had the opposite problem... sorry, no idea. [01:21] howd you fix it? [01:21] I didn't... I just ignored the problem until it went away... sorry I can't be of any help.. I just thought it was funny. [01:22] lol until it went away, doesnt sound like slackware [01:22] Well I don't think it was a slack problem. I think it was just firefox for me.. [01:25] ElitestFX (~ElitestFX@unaffiliated/elitestfx) joined ##slackware. [01:26] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [01:27] between the two of you you can have sound in FF *AND* all other sound apps :) [01:28] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:29] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.167.153) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:29] lol... we'll just smush our computers together. It will be awesome [01:30] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] there's no "I" in sound [01:30] Nick change: paratux -> freex [01:30] or was that in team? i forget... [01:31] I suppose it applies to both. [01:31] there is only meat in team [01:31] I'm simultaneously disgusted and hungry at that fact. [01:31] 8) [01:32] how bout some char-broiled burgers, eh? [01:32] Action: m1ck3y has $0 [01:32] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:32] *gurgle* [01:32] oooooh nobody is downloading the cds these days [01:32] its all about the dvd :P [01:32] what's a cd? [01:33] nickals (~nickals@97.103.10.179) joined ##slackware. [01:33] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@97.103.10.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [01:33] nickals kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: slackin, you've been warned *repeatedly* about that spambot, er, pugbot shit. [01:33] i'm not sure, i think you put them in the microwave [01:33] is that one of those antiques the elders used like 8-track tapes? [01:33] wise elders [01:33] they melt pretty. [01:33] firewords in the microwave! [01:33] but...the fumes are very unhealthy [01:34] In order to continue living in bliss. I must ignore the previous statement. [01:34] pnq (asdf@AC82066D.ipt.aol.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:34] 75 seeds seen now [01:34] w0o0o0 [01:35] how many seeds in the dvd swarm? [01:35] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:35] I seriously love slackbuilds.. installing them *I just learned how 3 days ago* makes me feel like the coolest kid on the block. [01:35] gramulhao (~gramulhao@c-76-110-248-244.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:36] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [01:36] :3 [01:37] by slackbuilds you mean a generic bash script that automates the use of makepkg or specifically the slackbuilds.org website? [01:38] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-207.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:38] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [01:39] You're not as friendly as some... :) I just take pride in the liberation I feel not using something like the ubuntu software center. but specifically slackbuilds because I'm a newb and I always mess up installing from source -slackbuilds [01:39] i'm not friendly, wuzzup wif dat? [01:40] i was just confused, so was genuinely asking. but yeah using slackbuild scripts is pretty neat. [01:40] lol not "as" friendly [01:40] hahah [01:40] I'm not trying to be mean... sorry ;( [01:40] yeah was gonna say [01:40] this is awkward.. honestly I thought you'd laugh. [01:41] talk about the kettle calling the glass houses two chickens in the bush [01:41] Action: fhobia whistles [01:41] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.167.153) joined ##slackware. [01:41] agreed. [01:41] or however the saying goes [01:41] lol I'm pretty sure I've heard it that way. [01:41] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [01:42] but there is a pretty good feeeling of having the OS do exactly what you want it to, innit [01:42] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.56.149) joined ##slackware. [01:43] Yes.. I seriously was so close to going back to ubuntu. I didn't have the right video drivers and couldn't get X to work and couldn't figure out how to get my wireless working.. now I just love messing with my computer every day. [01:43] when it all works it's too boring [01:44] lol [01:44] in fact i install linux just to tweak it, then when it works i remove it and install windows [01:44] Action: mancha ducks [01:44] o.o [01:44] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:45] haha [01:45] so how bad is this perl vulnerability anywho? [01:45] mancha: what do you do for a living? [01:45] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [01:46] m1ck3y, i am a regional manager for a mid-sized paper company: dunder mifflin [01:47] XD [01:48] It seems like everyone that I meet in here knows so much but work non-computer jobs.. I'm trying to figure out if I'm too far behind to go into some computer degree program.. [01:49] ouyuu (~hpo3@2001:da8:8000:d010:200:5efe:dac1:b5b8) joined ##slackware. [01:50] be careful...lots of online linux enthusiasts do know a lot about admin'ing a linux box but that isn't at all equivalent to computer science [01:51] mancha: that's a good point.. I'm just really into computers (particularly programming) but I'm 22 and worried about finding a job. It seems like all job posting require a ridiculous amount of skills for absurdly low pay (relatively) [01:51] blaines (~blaines@75-171-121-6.phnx.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:54] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: Quit: .. [01:55] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:56] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [01:56] lol, dunder mifflin [01:57] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [01:58] well, that was annoying. wpa_supplicant just decided to quit on me for 45 minutes [01:59] pics or it didn't happen [01:59] was complaining about ioctl [02:00] sounds like driver/hw troubles are being blamed on wpa_supplicant - poor supplicant [02:00] it was working, themn randomly quit [02:00] I had an uptime of 25 days, and it exploded [02:01] wpa_supp NEVER quits /rage [02:01] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:01] ok, then how do you explain it not working for 45 minutes when I did nothing? [02:01] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:01] router or card problems [02:01] spartanV1 (~spartan@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:02] wasnt the router because other devices could connect to the internet [02:02] maybe the card [02:02] 'not work' is also pretty vague [02:02] I tried to run wpa_ supplicant but it kept on giving this error [02:02] CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED - Disconnect event - remove keys [02:02] ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such file or directory [02:03] spartanV1 (~spartan@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:03] I get that all the time too.. but I can connect anyway.. but I don't know what wpa_supplicant is. [02:03] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:03] and it was using the same /etc/wpa_conf file for a month [02:04] m1ck3y: wpa_supplicant is a thing to allow wifi cards to connect to wpa encrypted access points [02:05] Teratogen (~blah@67.40.69.102) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:05] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:05] Teratogen (~blah@67.40.69.102) joined ##slackware. [02:05] hmm.. all I know is I was getting that error all the time.. but then I updated wicd and it went away. [02:05] oh, and wicd doesnt work anymore either [02:05] it jsut randomly stopped working a month ago [02:06] i even tried reinstalling it [02:06] Reticenti: you mean it doesn't start, or it has problems? [02:06] thats why I'm using wpa_supplicant [02:06] m1ck3y: it doesnt start [02:06] I'll pastebin what it's doing [02:06] hmm.. nevermind.. I had a problem with it, but it was starting. [02:07] this is what wicd does [02:07] xdan779 (~daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:07] http://pastebin.com/6ebM1szf [02:07] I even did a slackpkg --resintall wicd [02:07] ath5k perhaps? [02:07] solar_sea (~solar@85.14.14.82) joined ##slackware. [02:07] Reticenti, that links isn't loading [02:08] it's you then [02:08] I got it on mine. [02:08] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:08] weird [02:08] works now [02:08] lol [02:08] but not having wicd is really annoying [02:08] stop crying wolf [02:08] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [02:09] um, read the error: it says the wicd daemon is not started [02:09] yeah [02:09] can i haz wicd daemon!? [02:09] and if i run wicd, it doesnt do anything [02:09] OffPlanet (~meler@adsl-68-127-116-209.dsl.frsn02.pacbell.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:09] rc.wicd start? [02:10] sh /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd start or summit [02:10] don't need sh [02:10] just make sure it's +x [02:10] but i throw it in free of charge even if you don't need it [02:10] i'm nice that way... [02:10] That's very generous of you. [02:10] oh, the pid file never got properly deleted.... [02:11] heh [02:11] and i don't know if he has his rc file +x'd or not [02:11] dive, pass the crystal ballk over! [02:11] Reticenti, also you don't need to run wicd-curses as root [02:11] yeah [02:11] its working now [02:11] brb as i change from wpa_supp to wicd [02:11] Teratogen (~blah@67.40.69.102) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:12] mancha, well the thing is 'sh /etc/bla/bla' will run it even if it's -x I think [02:12] dive, exactly! [02:12] but of course then it won't run at boot [02:12] i'm not @boot [02:12] so better to not use sh [02:12] i am fixing real-time [02:13] i disagree i think it is very smart to use sh [02:14] well, wicd still isnt working [02:14] the problem is he could get it working, then next time he boots it stops working [02:14] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:14] i'm not there yet. i'll worry about booting when i get to that bridge [02:14] Reticenti, different error? [02:15] i started the wicd daemon, but same error [02:15] i have a live system with a nonworking wicd, this is my issue. not some problem in the future [02:15] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [02:15] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [02:15] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [02:16] this seems like a silly argument though, i prefer to get back to fixing wicd... :) [02:16] :) [02:16] yep [02:17] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org expired. [02:17] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [02:17] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:17] Guest45780 (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [02:17] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [02:17] Guest45780 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: You seem to know exactly how far to push things before leaving the channel, which tells me that you deserve a ban anyway. Five days. Stop being such a drama queen. [02:17] spartanVI (~spartan@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:17] lol ^ [02:18] so, any ideas on wicd? [02:18] can i haz error messages? [02:18] http://pastebin.com/T95N9t7Y [02:19] same error if i restart rc.wicd [02:19] Aidar-Nagato (admin@77.79.178.77.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [02:19] i want error message from starting wicd via SH /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd start [02:19] ok [02:19] one sec [02:20] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [02:20] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [02:20] http://pastebin.com/rVi93kRs [02:21] mancha: ^ [02:21] well it still can't connect to daemon [02:22] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:22] the daemon's not starting [02:22] ps aux | grep wicd show anything? [02:22] first killall wpa_supplicant and killall dhcpcd [02:22] then start wicd [02:23] mancha: alright, let me try that [02:23] brb [02:23] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [02:24] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [02:24] Reticenti: is rc.messagebus in /etc/rc.d executable [02:25] dChr (~dchr@freelancer.ceid.upatras.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:25] yes [02:25] and same error even if i kill dhcpcd and wpa_supp mancha [02:25] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:25] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:25] and that was a yes to xdan779 [02:25] ps aux | grep wicd ? [02:25] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [02:25] ok [02:25] this seems relevant http://bit.ly/c0bWvJ it talks about dbus needing the computer to be restarted to get wicd to work [02:26] dive|bsd: and ps aux | grep -i wicd showed nothing [02:26] peacenik (~cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:26] Ret, sh /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd stop, then start it yourselfin console: /usr/sbin/wicd [02:27] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:27] xovan: I've rebooted multiple times, and no dice [02:27] poastebin the errors to console [02:27] ok i'll try that mancha [02:28] mancha: there was no errors, /usr/sbin/wicd just went to the next line, but ps aux | grep wicd doesnt show it started [02:28] Reticenti, try /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus reload [02:28] then try wicd again [02:28] what's /vasr/log/wicd say? [02:28] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [02:29] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:29] dive|bsd: i reloaded, and tried to start wicd again, but it jsut went to the next line, ps doesnt show wicd [02:29] reloading messagebus isn't going to help you've rebooted and it didn't fix, right? [02:29] does the full install come with wicd? [02:30] because i dont see it [02:30] try what manch said: /var/log/wicd/wicd.log [02:30] paste /var/log/wicd [02:31] well, /var/log/wicd/wicd.log says that /etc/wicd/wired-settings.conf contains parsing errors [02:31] i donte ever remember editing that file [02:31] there you go, your .conf is fucked [02:32] Reticenti, that file gets edited from the ui usually [02:32] can i just remove the contents of that file? [02:32] peacenik (~cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:32] mv it to wired-settings.conf.bak or so [02:32] yeah [02:33] Can't you just remove the whole file and wicd will make a new one upon launch? *please God don't take my word for it I'm just asking* [02:33] then try daemon again [02:33] m1ck3y, yes [02:33] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:34] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) joined ##slackware. [02:34] hmm, another error in the log file [02:34] lol [02:34] but [02:34] i remember why my wicd config was fucked [02:34] wicd doesnt handle two connections at the same time [02:35] and i was trying to make it do that [02:35] good job [02:35] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-108.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:35] lol [02:35] so you broke it [02:35] so I have to stick with wpa_supplcant and ifconfig [02:35] instead if making it do 2 conns you made it do 0 [02:35] As long as there is a human to blame. [02:35] yup :) [02:35] PEBKAC [02:35] Reticenti, you could just remove all the config files and restart it [02:36] yep, i knew "it just started not working all of a sudden"" was a load of crap [02:36] dive|bsd: yeah, but I have to have two connections at the same time (eth0 and wlan0) and wicd cant handle it [02:36] then double check that you don't have any funny virtual ethernet cards lying around [02:37] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:37] Reticenti, right [02:37] I'm still confused as to why my wifi card pooped out on me for 45 minutes earlier [02:37] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:37] bah, i don't believe anything you say no more [02:37] heh [02:37] this time I think it was actually hardware [02:37] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:37] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [02:38] i was just happily surfing, and the internet cut out [02:38] were you going to www.midgetsex.com? [02:38] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [02:38] lol.. great assumption [02:38] goatsex.com actually [02:39] I just killed two flies in one slap! [02:39] actually, i was on reddit.com/r/linux [02:39] like karate kid? [02:39] and it cut out [02:40] That, by the way, is not some type of metaphore. I actually am killing flies in my home, which is a basement. [02:40] wax on; wax off? [02:41] exactly like karate kid. but without chop-sticks. [02:41] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [02:41] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [02:43] Action: m1ck3y just found that thinkgeek sells "bag of holding" messenger bags. [02:43] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [02:45] link [02:45] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:45] http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/exclusives/aaa5/ [02:45] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-179.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:45] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [02:50] who is responsible for the new bash codein some SBo scripts the "detect architecture automatically" stuff? [02:52] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:54] I don't think anyone's awake anymore... [02:54] i don't know but I find them convenient [02:55] xovan, i hate it [02:55] why's that? [02:55] preferred the old way? [02:56] yeah for a feew reasons [02:56] mainly the slackbuildscript can be used to record what you did. when it has an arch=blah line you know what arvch you used, that case statement means it is chosen on the fly [02:57] so you have noway of knowing from readin the script [02:57] also, somehow the indentation used is really awkward and non-aesthetic, it just offends my eyes [02:57] shouldn't you be switching gcc profiles when you want to compile your packages? [02:58] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.167.153) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:58] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:58] mancha: Pat [02:58] I have no problem knownig what ARCH is set frmo reading the script. [02:59] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [02:59] BP{k} not if you are reading the package's script on a machione different from that used to compile it [02:59] i.e. the ARCH used is not recorded in the script. period. [02:59] you can't argue this since it is a fact. [02:59] mancha: guess you didn't like the "ARCH=${ARCH:-i486}" either then. [03:00] i didn't mind because i never pass env vars to ascripts [03:00] so whatever is after the :- is what was used [03:01] don't know why you copied pat's idea, i don't think it's a good one :) [03:01] but you have no guarantee there either [03:02] pprkut, i do becuase i make the packages. and i *never* pass vars [03:02] the new method is beyond my control [03:02] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [03:02] I came late, but I think the new auto-ARCH is a great addition :-) [03:03] mancha: so if you build packages for a 64bit machine you edit in the old version the "ARCH=" line to set it to x86_64 before running it? [03:03] why not just replace the new code with old code that works for you? You could probably make a script that does that. [03:03] xovan, i write my own and my templatye does't have this code. i just noticed it in a few scripts i got off SBo [03:03] and then i thought, fugly... [03:04] ah [03:04] :) [03:04] so i thought i'd rant here about it, a bit... [03:04] it's up to you to voice your own opinions [03:05] yep, but it seems i am in a minority - judging from teh response... [03:05] mancha: since you are on the subject, how about compiling 32 bit z26 on a multilib slackware it auto detects my system as 64 bit and exits prematurely not giving me the option to compile it a s32 [03:05] doesn't the "-$ARCH" in the line beginning with "/sbin/makepkg" give you a clue as to what arch was used? It seems to me that if yo're using a package that was compiled on another machine and it has that as part odf the name it would be enough, no? [03:06] cypheerpunko, that's a very good point -hrmm [03:06] ok so maybe i'll kjust focus on the indentation! :) [03:07] Amen [03:07] The advantage is, one script builds a package for x86, x86_64, ARM and S390. That is our gain [03:08] ok, revised rant: the indentation used is fugly! [03:09] lol [03:09] especially in bash, indentation is not a "requirement" I think [03:09] it isn't, but it makes easier reading [03:09] ane aesthetics is in the eye of the beholder [03:10] true it is easier [03:11] simplex (~simplex@twopenguins.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:11] scripting without indentation is the pits [03:11] Oh man, I have to be at work in five hours. Thanks for the fun times all. goodnight. [03:11] night m1ck3y [03:11] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.167.153) joined ##slackware. [03:11] simplex (~simplex@twopenguins.it) joined ##slackware. [03:11] and don't even mention python... [03:12] m1ck3y (mickey@c-68-40-206-140.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [03:12] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:12] ok no mention :) especially when talkiing about bash scripts [03:13] as compiling 32 bit packages in multilib require the arch variable to remain x86_64 how do you build those packages when arch x86_64 causes it to close [03:14] I thought that was what the " . /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh [03:14] Have you read the article I wrote about multilib xdan779 [03:14] It's basically what cypherpunko said [03:14] sorry about that [03:14] alienBOB: yes [03:16] I was under the understanding that the arch x86_64 would have to be used even ewhen compiling a 32 bit program [03:16] here's my suggested version: http://mancha.pastebin.com/xZijyML3 [03:17] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [03:19] ^ too long [03:21] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:23] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) joined ##slackware. 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[03:31] yeppp pilipo [03:32] http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html [03:32] f**k adobe :/ [03:32] freex (~user@212-183-88-88.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:32] I think some people have got 32 bit to work on x86_64 [03:33] pilipo, the slackbuilds.org flashplayer slackbuild will get you the 64 bit player too. [03:33] there's a post on LQ about it I think [03:33] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/multimedia/flash-player-plugin/ this slava_dp ? [03:33] yes [03:34] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@97.103.10.* expired. [03:34] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@97.103.10.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [03:34] it's a recent package. I never seen him before you notice it ^^ [03:34] tnx Ephedrax [03:34] not so recent. 64-bit player has been on sbo since slack 13.0 [03:34] pilipo: thx to slava_dp ;) [03:34] ;) slava_dp [03:34] pilipo, get sbopkg [03:34] well, maybe I never had the habits to go on slackbuilds for this :) [03:34] Action: Ephedrax note it now [03:35] didn't the 64 bit player get the axe? [03:36] Do you think there is some risk to upgrade ktorrent 3.3.4 to 4.0.1 slava_dp ? [03:36] thanks slava_dp for the sbopkg [03:36] mancha, it sure did. but the 10.0.45.x (the last 64-bit release) still works. [03:36] slava, yes i heard :)( [03:36] mancha, although it has a known bug and is not recommended for usage. [03:37] yep a known exploit [03:37] i wouldn't use 10.0 unless you're whitelisting sites which can run flash apps [03:38] so yeah, fcsk adobe, they are bastards. [03:38] =) [03:38] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. 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[03:49] wvae (~kid@145.116.228.165) joined ##slackware. [03:50] what should be the value of 'dump-freq and pass-num' for non os partition - in fstab ? [03:52] mgt (~mgt@95.87.255.218) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:52] 1 2 [03:53] http://dpaste.com/207835/ [03:54] what 1 and 2 values do ? [03:54] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.97.139) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:55] 1 = dump this fs when needed; 2 - check this fs after all others that have '1' [03:55] i. e. rootfs has '1' - checked first [03:55] /home has '2', checked second [03:55] fsck check ? [03:56] yes [03:56] ok , thanks :) [03:56] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-151-207.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:56] also, if you have multiple fs's with check = 2, they might get checked in parallel. [03:57] ah [03:57] ok [03:58] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:59] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:00] where dump make backups ? [04:00] i mean where backups are saved ? [04:01] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8DA27.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:01] will this install packages i dont already have on my system too? upgradepkg --install-new /root/slackware/*/*.tgz [04:01] wvae, as far as I see, dump is no more in slackware 13.1. [04:02] so , should i disable it ? i.e 0 ? [04:02] C00re, slackpkg install slackware # will do what you want [04:02] wvae, just leave that value alone. [04:02] ok [04:02] huh? [04:03] its from slackware 11 UPGRADE.txt [04:03] C00re, well, yeah, upgradepkg --install-new will do it. [04:03] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-151-207.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:04] ok [04:05] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:05] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [04:06] dive|bsd (~dive@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Quit: Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you. [04:08] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) joined ##slackware. [04:09] j0z (unix@201.47.11.112.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [04:09] j0z (unix@201.47.11.112.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [04:09] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [04:12] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.4) joined ##slackware. [04:12] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:13] if I want to erase a hard disk, can I just do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdb, or will that erase some vital disk structures? [04:14] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:15] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [04:17] that basically blanks the drive. after dd, you would have to redo cfdisk/fdisk to partition it [04:17] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:17] slava_dp, you will have to repartition the hard again after that [04:17] it won't kill the drive, just make it so you have to start from scratch again [04:17] that's very fine, thanks. [04:17] slava_dp, you can also do cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sdb [04:18] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org expired. [04:18] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [04:18] Guest45780 (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [04:18] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [04:18] Guest45780 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: You seem to know exactly how far to push things before leaving the channel, which tells me that you deserve a ban anyway. Five days. Stop being such a drama queen. [04:19] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [04:19] ouyuu (~hpo3@2001:da8:8000:d010:200:5efe:dac1:b5b8) left irc: Quit: ‚» [04:20] is the noatime option for root discouraged? [04:21] use relatime instead [04:21] hmm [04:21] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [04:21] noatime is not discouraged, but relatime is almost as good perfoamncewise [04:22] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [04:22] nice tip! [04:23] it doesnt' screw with apps that depend on those stamps [04:23] dive-bsd (~dive@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [04:25] Nick change: dive-bsd -> dive|bsd [04:26] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [04:27] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [04:27] sadman_ (~sadman@en-pc243.htwg-konstanz.de) joined ##slackware. [04:29] gh0st (~gh0st@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:34] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) left irc: Quit: mosno [04:38] anyone good with lighttpd rewrite regexps? [04:39] gospch (~gospch@unaffiliated/gospch) joined ##slackware. [04:39] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:40] I'm trying to get it to see "file" as "file" and not as "any combination of f,i,l,e" in (file|dev) [04:41] is slackpkg handling dependencies or is it just a pure download/install/upgrade? [04:41] and compare to slapt-get it actually work? :P [04:42] neither one supports dependancies for official slackware packages [04:42] and slapt-get works just fine, not sure what you're doing wrong [04:42] C00re, slackware does not check dependencies [04:42] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:42] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [04:42] ok [04:42] never_mind (~dexter@219.64.95.198) joined ##slackware. [04:42] and slapt-get is unsupported 3rd party [04:42] Nick change: bgs100 -> bgs000 [04:43] gtklocker (~gtklocker@adsl-202.79.107.89.tellas.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:43] bottomline, slackpkg is the best option? [04:43] and the developer doesn't come here to ##slackware to shmooze [04:44] gospch (~gospch@unaffiliated/gospch) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:45] slackpkg is the one for the official repository that includes packages that come on the slackware cd [04:45] sbopkg is the unofficial slackware-style front end to slackbuilds.org for 3rd party software [04:45] ok [04:45] actually, jkwood is behind slapt-get, right? [04:45] first I heard of it [04:46] jake (~jake@92.17.210.233) joined ##slackware. [04:46] Nick change: never_mind -> Dexter [04:47] I have a laptop and the sound is right up to the top - there is sound coming out but it is very quiet. if it recognizes me card is it possible i am just using a generic driver that doesnt work entirely? this is a problem in kde [04:47] maybe ot, similar name and nick is all [04:47] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:49] jake, run alsamixer from a terminal, and max PCM, Master and whatever other channels there are for playback. [04:51] like Front, too [04:52] slava_dp, will try that now [04:53] use M to mute/unmute channels [04:53] i dunno why malloc doesn't "shmooz" in #slackware, but hes always available in #slapt-get, real nice guy too [04:53] slava_dp, now working like a charm - thank you [04:54] jake, ah, glad it worked =] [04:54] i have just switched over to slackware from fedora and it's been... enlightening - some hard work along the way but have gained a sense of achievement at least :-) [04:55] good, happy slacking [04:55] mancha: 'malloc' is behind slapt-get [04:56] jake, when you are done tweaking sound levels, run 'alsactl store' as root and it will save the levels. [04:56] he spends most of his time in the vector linux channel and one more that uses slapt-get as their official package tool that escapes me at the moment. [04:56] SiegeX, ah ok. thanks. [04:56] salix sorta sounds right [04:56] Action: SiegeX checks [04:56] yep, that's it [04:56] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:58] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [04:59] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Quit: FSF Free Software Foundation [04:59] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:06] slava_dp, much like the sound, is there a file I can edit for brightness settings on the laptop? the sound Fn keys work but not brightness. If I could set up a script to just go in and change that file, that would be fine [05:08] jake, I had the same brightness issue with my laptop after upgrading to 13.1. try upgrading the bios. [05:09] pilipo (~pilipo@203.177.147.86) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:10] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:11] jake, if you add the kde battery plasmoid, can you control brightness from there? 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[05:31] second oldest is debian iirc [05:31] Actually, Debian is about a month to the day younger than Slack [05:31] oh goodness ^^ [05:33] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/LinuxDistroTimeline.png [05:33] Oh boy >.o XD [05:34] gospch (~gospch@unaffiliated/gospch) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:35] that is huge [05:37] oh goodness, I started with a distro older than slack. O.o Yggdrasil.. I think.. except I had 2.0 which used rpm & stuff [05:38] that can't be right [05:38] I have a book somewhere that had Yggdrasil included with it, heh [05:38] ah :D [05:40] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:42] It even had a boot floppy because CD boot wasn't widepsread at that point [05:43] yeah ^^ [05:44] mine wasn't Yggdrasil, it was FT 2.0 based on Lasermoon, neither of which I can find on the chart. [05:44] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:44] scan I scan for wireless networks at the comment line? [05:44] command* [05:44] iwlist or something? [05:45] 'iwlist scan' iirc [05:45] jake: or the wicd cli client [05:45] yes - first make sure of the driver assignment (my laptop is wlan0) so it would be iwlist wlan0 scan [05:45] or use the wicd-client [05:46] that's great. I was told to use wicd because it is good for beginners but i would like to know the classic slackware way to get things done [05:48] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [05:49] jake, if you use wpa/wpa2 you will have to get your hands dirty with wpa_supplicant.conf. otherwise, wi-fi is pretty easy. [05:49] jake: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network [05:50] morning guys o/ [05:51] Action: slava_dp always forgets about alien's wiki [05:51] hey phrag [05:51] solar_sea (~solar@85.14.14.82) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:52] jake (~jake@92.17.210.233) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:53] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [06:00] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:02] fallen (~PolarBear@unaffiliated/thefallen) joined ##slackware. [06:06] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:07] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [06:08] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:08] solar_sea (~solar@85.14.14.82) joined ##slackware. [06:10] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:15] wpa isnt that hard [06:15] jtrol (~user@116.227.85.186) joined ##slackware. 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Stop being such a drama queen. [06:19] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:20] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [06:22] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.mimer.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:22] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-9-192.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:23] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-9-192.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [06:31] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [06:33] dive|bsd (~dive@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:34] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:34] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. [06:36] dive|bsd (~dive@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [06:42] peacenik (~didier@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [06:43] boneyee (~sixx@212.183.140.5) joined ##slackware. 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[07:10] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-144-42.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:11] newyork: does the irssi config file exist? [07:11] ah u chmodded it [07:11] try deleting it [07:11] and the .irssi folder in your root [07:11] erm, home [07:11] (sorry, tired) [07:12] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@97.103.10.* expired. [07:12] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@97.103.10.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:12] hm ok i deleted the folder and by starting irssi i get "** ERROR **: Couldn't create /home/user/.irssi directory" [07:13] ls -ld /home/user [07:13] Your /home/username permissions are propably set incorrectly [07:13] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.42.87) joined ##slackware. [07:14] drwxr-xr-x 32 root root 4096 2010-06-16 13:09 /home/user/ , hm yes seemed that only root have access, strange [07:14] chown username:username /home/username [07:14] chown :users unless you're on *buntu [07:15] Group username should be part of users? [07:15] jake (~jake@92.17.164.245) joined ##slackware. [07:15] username is in users group [07:16] fb|jean, slackware by default does not create 'user groups'. [07:16] or should be [07:16] slava_dp: ah ok [07:16] slava_dp: I'm not as familiar as I should be when idling in #slackware :P [07:16] I have installed flash plugin from slackbuilds and it works. it has started not responding to mouse clicks on the controls in firefox. it works when i first load a video but after a while of watching the pause button won;t work (unless i tab to the control and press space) [07:16] but you can add them manually [07:17] jake, 64-bit? [07:17] jake: it's a gtk+ problem [07:17] ok now it works, thanks guys, i just missed to look over the permissions :P [07:17] slava_dp, yes [07:17] dChr, is it something that everyone using kde suffers with then? [07:17] I haven't met this problem [07:18] i had it in ubuntu and had to change a conf file so that the flash player window was layer + 1 or something. That was a constant issue though and this time it works... then stops [07:19] Kaapa (~Something@a95-93-240-222.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:19] jake: starting firefox with GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 usually fixes this issue. [07:20] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:20] Kaapa (~Something@a95-93-240-222.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:21] This was a problem for me with ubuntu a year ago - is this not something that should have been fixed by now? I would have thought most regular internet users want flash to work. I will add that line dChr [07:21] What the fuck? Strange offtopic story. Contact platform. Female, twenty years older than me is adding me as friend. I ask her if I know her. She says "no" and in a second message: "ok, the truth is, I need a good looking jean on my side". What the fuck? [07:22] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:22] lol [07:22] sad [07:23] dChr, I am having problems with my ISP. Could you point me to the file which needs that GDK line adding to it please [07:24] jake have you tried clearing the firefox cache first? [07:24] Dexter (~dexter@219.64.95.198) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:25] jake: chances are /usr/bin/firefox will be a shell script. It's a bit hackish, but you could add it to that [07:26] peacenik: It's not a firefox problem. See http://tinyurl.com/yh3rdeh [07:27] jake: otherwise.. if ~/bin is in $PATH ahead of /usr/bin, you could make a 2-line shell script which exports the variable and then runs /usr/bin/firefox [07:28] Action: EthanG reads the page... "heh, more cruft caused by the brokenness of X" [07:28] or he could just put 'export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1' in his ~/.bashrc [07:28] exit kde, logout,login, start kde [07:28] simple [07:28] dive, that will have effect for all gtk apps [07:29] is that a problem? [07:30] I love how people in this irc have no idea how new I am to this :-) I will look into creating a shell script in ~/bin [07:30] ^^; [07:31] archceza3 (1000@ajs11.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:31] shell scripts in ~/bin are well worth learning about, I think. Lots of handy little things you can do with them [07:31] I didn't know I had a bin folder in my home directory [07:32] you can make one or call it whatever you want [07:32] archceza1 (1000@avx66.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:32] you could call it scripts and put it in your path, theres nothing magical about the name bin [07:32] thats just the convention [07:32] is it in the default path in slackware? [07:32] there is no ~/bin in slackware. [07:33] and it is not in the PATH. [07:33] well you might want to just put it in /usr/bin/firefox and remember to add it again if you ever upgrade it [07:33] jake: another ugly fix is to right-click on the Flash object, then double-click on the button. You must be quick though. [07:34] not in $PATH, and bash has complex initialisation... ah well [07:35] ? [07:36] can't you just say you were wrong? [07:36] wrong about what? [07:36] you can add it to /etc/profile pretty easily. [07:36] ah ok then [07:36] or make a script in /etc/profile.d that will do it. [07:37] I know you guys may be comfortable with all this, but I really have no idea what I am doing right now [07:37] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [07:37] or put it /etc/skel with .profile to include the path [07:37] whatever you do, know how to undo it [07:37] haha, that is something I found out earlier Skywise :-) [07:38] good man [07:38] Skywise, /etc/profile is nicer that .profile, cause the user can't delete it :) [07:38] lol [07:39] it's nicer than .profile because it's not going to come into conflict with .bash_profile, .bash_login, .bashrc... [07:40] if i do "alias firefox = "GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 firefox", will that work when i open it? and will it work when it's opened from somewhere other than a termianl with the alias too? [07:40] jake, that will only work for a shell. [07:40] aliases can be set ok in .bashrc [07:40] jake, when you call it from the menu, /usr/bin/firefox is called. [07:40] that too [07:41] i will look at etc/profileas suggested [07:41] EthanG, you're not very familiar with bash startup files. debian background, I presume? :) [07:41] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:42] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [07:42] slava_dp: no. red hat, suse, gentoo, source mage. If anything I'm too familiar with them and the way a moment's inattention makes them get in each others way [07:42] well, that said I always ignored /etc/profile for some reason [07:42] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:42] so do i just add a line to the profile "GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 /usr/bin/firefox"? [07:42] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-144-42.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [07:44] EthanG, /etc/bashrc and .bashrc are used for non-interactive shells (scripts). /etc/profile, /etc/profile.d, .bash_profile, .profile are used for interactive shells. debian calls bashrc from .bash_profile, so it's irrelevant which file to use there. [07:44] jake, no, you put 'export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1' without the quotes on a line by itself. [07:44] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.167.153) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:45] jake, this sets an environment variable which will get passed to all programs started after /etc/profile gets executed (when you log in). [07:45] jake, you can check your env vars with 'env'. [07:46] slava_dp, thanks - I am working my way through slackware essentials and have only got to networking so far (hence me being online!) and am getting through it a bit at a time [07:46] hopefully this sort of stuff will be explained to me later in the book [07:46] jake, and, you need to logout/login for /etc/profile to get executed again and your variable applied. [07:46] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.177.216) joined ##slackware. [07:47] slava_dp: wrong. :) *bashrc is for interactive non-login shells. *profile and *login for login shells, which are usually (but, I think, not necessarily) interactive. *bashrc are not read by login shells by default, even if they are interactive. console VTs start a login shell, btu under X it's a user setting, different for each terminal application [07:47] slava_dp, chapter 8... :-) [07:47] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-191-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:48] * but under X whether a terminal starts a login or plain interactive shell is a user setting... [07:48] evanton (~cbbe@unaffiliated/evanton) joined ##slackware. [07:48] EthanG, :) ok, *bashrc is for interactive _and_ non-interactive non-login shells :) [07:49] could somebody confirm that wesnoth works for him on slackware 13.1 32 bit? [07:49] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [07:50] I'm getting a weird issue with the second wesnoth version already: the main menu items are not mouse clickable. I use the slackbuild from SBo, same for wesnoth 1.8 and for the recent 1.8.1 [07:50] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-144-42.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:51] slava_dp: I just tested with a fresh .bashrc with an echo in it. I'm not seeing it sourced by a non-interactive instance of bash [07:51] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [07:53] EthanG, I'm gonna have to read up on this. #bash just gave me a link to http://mywiki.wooledge.org/DotFiles [07:53] revel0 (~revel0@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [07:53] ok [07:53] Action: slava_dp off to have some food [07:55] revel0 (~revel0@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:56] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-tebgnndpwxujpwjn) joined ##slackware. [07:58] wow that's longwinded. When the statement of the problem is longwinded and contains this, you know it's a problem: "So, what's the best solution to this problem? There really isn't a universal one." [08:00] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:04] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [08:04] "Dude, the new IE is niiice =D" - "wtf? why?" - "don't you know the advertisement? its safe and that..." - "and? shit on the floor, put a basket over - it's safe for flies but it IS shit!" [08:04] jake (~jake@92.17.164.245) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:06] haha XD [08:06] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [08:08] ouyuu (hpo3@218.193.181.184) joined ##slackware. [08:09] thrice`: still feel evince is a gtk app? http://lists.slackbuilds.org/pipermail/slackbuilds-users/2010-June/005966.html :p [08:11] Fish-Work (~Fish@86.65.182.207) joined ##slackware. [08:11] sahko, 2.30.x does NOT require gnome-settings-daemon, I promise [08:12] http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/13.1/i486/evince-2.30.1-i486-2_rlw.txz installpkg that, no other deps required :) [08:12] oh, nevermind - I mis-read [08:13] can you save settings though? [08:14] gtklocker (gtklocker@adsl-202.79.107.89.tellas.gr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:16] rockslinux (~chatzilla@213.87.194.0) joined ##slackware. [08:16] funny, up until 2.26.x, it was quite integrated with gnome deps; they made it compile in 2.28 and 2.30 without any, which was so nice, and now it seems to be going back :( [08:17] yeah that sucks. furthermore since there are any other universal document viewers [08:18] arent* [08:18] abiword might count, and if not I think it can convert anything to pdf [08:18] (on the command line, at that) [08:20] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org expired. 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[08:39] :( [08:39] hi all [08:39] ok....thx thrice` [08:39] maybe I'm wrong, but i've always found that strange and unfortunate too [08:40] my slack64-current is eating up tons of mem [08:40] gtludwig, http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ ? [08:40] thanks, I'll give it a try [08:40] gtludwig, 'free -m' output shows? [08:41] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.86.28.93.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:42] thrice`, says total: 3809, used 3757, free 51 [08:42] can you pastebin all of it? [08:42] sure [08:43] thrice`, http://pastebin.com/FZfhN3Kk [08:43] danix (~danix@host105-37-dynamic.246-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:43] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-191-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:44] show 'top' [08:44] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-191-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [08:44] thats pretty amazing [08:44] ok, doesn't seem to be cached either :p [08:46] gtludwig, ok, usually people are concerned because their memory is cached, but looks like it's all being consumed. yours appears to actually be consumed :( does anything in top show it eating away ? [08:46] alphageek (rooot@75-119-244-159.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [08:46] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [08:46] crocket (~quassel@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [08:46] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.86.28.93.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:46] There is one problem with mplayer. [08:46] not really... top's here http://pastebin.com/85akxjc3 [08:47] hi [08:47] It is not built with components with patents, so it can't play flv files. [08:47] After I built with patented components, and installed mplayer-codecs, I could player .wmv and .flv files. [08:48] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-191-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:48] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.86.28.93.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:48] oops [08:48] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-191-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [08:48] s/I could player/I could play/ [08:48] crocket: mine plays flv files just fine [08:49] gtludwig: does memory usage drop (drastically) by killing X? [08:49] thrice`, I take it doesn't actually have to do with my system being up for 2 weeks now, right? [08:49] gtludwig, try logging out of KDE, if you can [08:49] What about nagios? [08:49] rworkman, I have to try [08:49] brb [08:49] Yeah, start killing shit and see if there's a massive mem recovery. Coul dbe a leak [08:49] "It is not built with components with patents, so it can't play flv files" [08:49] That's a feature [08:50] kk, I'll brb [08:50] chipster: that's a point :) [08:50] crocket: try installing libdvdcss [08:50] rworkman, if you get a chance, try the intel 2.12 (git or RC) - it gave me quite the improvement. first time I can say that in a few releases. KDE effects went from marginally acceptable to completely fluent [08:50] rworkman: :) [08:50] Not sure why that would make a difference, but it's the only thing missing from mplayer iirc [08:50] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB5B5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:51] get (~isix-os@unaffiliated/get) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:51] A-V (~kid@145.116.228.165) joined ##slackware. [08:51] asarch (~asarch@189.188.159.177) joined ##slackware. [08:51] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.93.17) joined ##slackware. [08:51] Nick change: A-V -> Guest20159 [08:52] Nick change: Guest20159 -> wvae [08:52] rworkman: you quit sleeping altogether now? [08:53] rworkman : Does your default mplayer on slackware64 13.1 just play flv files? [08:53] revel0 (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [08:53] I think I've got a serious problem. [08:54] thrice`: I'll give it a look, but I don't expect to see massive differences since I don't use any of that fancy shit :) [08:54] I don't think the mplayer we ship plays flv files by default [08:54] Either I downloaded a corrupted slackware DVD, or the installation had gone wrong. [08:54] crocket: anyway, you should get vlc and end the mplayer woes [08:54] alienBOB: re sleeping, it seems that way :) [08:55] alienBOB : VLC doesn't support subtitles in CP949 charset very well. [08:55] I guess other distros paid for those patents. [08:55] he [08:55] rworkman, quite more than that; check out the 'speedup' section. has to do with the glypph improvements. http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel/commit/?id=68c8b3f12482489f2e2e8040fd6728f1a2b9e420 [08:55] Re flv files, mplyaer definitely will play them as shipped [08:55] crocket: flv is a container, look out for the codec [08:55] gentoo doesn't have to pay, fortunately. [08:55] hmm [08:56] evanton : Anyway after I recompiled with patented components and installed mplayer codecs from slackbuilds, everything is fine. [08:56] s/recompiled/repackaged/ [08:56] The mplayer slackbuild in slackware ISO is very long. [08:56] get (~isix-os@devel.isix-os.org) joined ##slackware. [08:57] Nick change: get -> Get|Off [08:57] Nick change: Get|Off -> get [08:57] thrice`: I'll give it look when I feel more awake :) [08:57] rworkman: the mplayer from 13.1 doesn't play only a certain flv file for me. I think it's vp6f codec. the funny thing is that I can't disclose the file because it's personal. but the mplayer binary from the package for 13.0 does the job, so I just copied it into ~/bin and made sure that appears first in my path :) [08:58] I know this is a very ugly hack, but it works for me [08:58] Action: rworkman suspects pr0n ;-) [08:58] I'm not an expert in law, so I'm here to ask if slackware can change "USE_PATENTS" to YES in the mplayer slackbuild legally. [08:58] crocket: no [08:59] but as a user you can decide on your own and change it [08:59] Action: rworkman doesn't have a non-pr0n flv file :) [08:59] rworkman: How about evanton's testimonial? [08:59] heh [08:59] rworkman: it's not just pr0n, it's pr0n with me performing, so obviously I wouldn't leak it into internet, even as an attachment to a bug report :D [09:00] HAHA [09:00] alphageek (rooot@206-248-176-32.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [09:00] oh boy, I'll prolly get noobfarmed now [09:00] That's epic. Win. [09:00] evanton, are you _sure_ you don't want the free publicity? :) [09:00] v4nelle (~van@79.107.195.29) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:00] levus (~levus@g01-nat.satkol.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:00] hi all ;) [09:00] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [09:00] The sheep was too loud and ruined the audio. [09:01] ;-) [09:01] lol [09:01] lol [09:01] that's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad [09:01] i little speak english [09:01] slackers, they also got sense of humour!! [09:01] I have a problem and come for help. [09:01] rob0: ewwww [09:01] crocket: you will have to live with the fact that Slackware will not ship software that has possible patent litigation issues... having to pay a lawyer would just cost too much [09:01] Ewe didn't like that? [09:02] rworkman, groan! [09:02] amarok: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeui.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [09:02] You should use #slackware-es levus [09:02] gdzie znajd libkdeui.so.4? [09:02] levus, /join #slackware-es [09:02] for Polish? [09:02] no i'm from poland [09:02] D'oh! [09:02] yes [09:02] ah [09:03] ElitestFX (~ElitestFX@unaffiliated/elitestfx) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:03] levus: you have the kdelibs package installed? [09:03] where can I find where can I find libkdeui.so.4. [09:03] alisonken1noc: publicity at the cost of getting some nails put into my throat when the second performer discovers that I violated (sic!!!) her privacy? no thanks [09:03] evanton, I'm sure the sheep won't mind [09:03] :) [09:03] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:04] heh [09:04] levus: Slackware 13.1's kdelibs package shipped libkdeui.so.5, so probably you're trying to use an amarok package for 13.0 [09:04] panzer (~panzer@unaffiliated/panzer) joined ##slackware. [09:04] actually, *.4 looks like slack 12.2 [09:04] oh wow [09:05] i use older amarok but new does not support last.fm [09:05] That would make sense though; kde4 would have bumped the major soname version [09:05] Maybe clementine will support it? [09:05] in fact, *.4 looks like it could be anything from slack 8.1 to 12.2 [09:05] I knew that slackers remember dependencies, but remembering the versions of libraries - that's really tough [09:06] slackpkg can search for those files :) [09:06] alphageek: :) [09:06] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:06] ok, i try. ;) [09:06] thanks [09:06] gotta love my custom search indices :) [09:06] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) joined ##slackware. [09:07] back [09:07] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:08] outside of kde, free -m says system only(??) consumes 200Mb of ram [09:08] back into kde, system is consuming 1Gb [09:09] buy more RAM, it's cheap nowadays [09:09] or use a lightweight alternative, not KDE [09:09] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:09] is that the raw figure or after buffers/cache have been taken into account? [09:09] gtludwig: which kde are you using? 4.4.3? [09:09] wvae (~kid@145.116.228.165) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:09] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [09:10] sahko, think so, it's from -current [09:10] regardless, kde will eat a fair bit of resources. it does quite a bit 'under the hood' [09:10] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-168.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:10] alphageek, true, [09:10] alphageek: not like this http://pastebin.com/FZfhN3Kk [09:10] Damn [09:11] my KDE without loading or anything is usually under 400mb or so [09:11] ive never seen anything using 3.3gb of swap [09:11] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:11] wow [09:12] some process leaked, I guess [09:12] open a terminal, 'top', hit 'M' [09:12] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@168-103-63-219.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [09:12] I like klipper consuming 407m. that's epic. [09:13] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [09:13] ElitestFX (~ElitestFX@unaffiliated/elitestfx) joined ##slackware. [09:13] now virtuoso-t is consuming lots of cpu (75%+) and very little ram (2%) [09:13] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:13] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) joined ##slackware. [09:13] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [09:13] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [09:13] might wanna disable strigi maybe [09:14] strigi + nepomuk, they are just too hungry. [09:14] even though it's advertised as better in 4.4, I have to kill them also [09:14] i have them disabled [09:14] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.93.17) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:15] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:16] is nepomuk that indexing monster? [09:16] thats strigi [09:16] slava_dp, even though I disabled it, pgrep nepo still shows a process lurking until it's killed :> [09:16] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [09:17] thrice`, not here :) [09:17] Fish-Work (~Fish@86.65.182.207) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:18] seems like the indexer is nepomuk. but its too confusing anyway [09:19] meh, both worthless ;) [09:19] thrice`, so stopping both neponuk and strigi should be ok? [09:20] it's harmless, yes. it won't index your files and allow you to search for them in, for example, krunner or dolphin [09:22] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:23] but kde search still works, using kfind [09:24] without metadata, im not sure that even counts as a real search, lol [09:25] find _is_ the real search. [09:25] who needs metadata. [09:26] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:34] hamed (~root@91.99.197.247) joined ##slackware. [09:36] levus (~levus@g01-nat.satkol.pl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:36] Yandertal (~Yandertal@unaffiliated/yandertal) joined ##slackware. [09:46] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [09:48] levus (~levus@g01-nat.satkol.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:48] i have a next problem ;( [09:49] i install clementine and all librares [09:49] i run clementine [09:50] and see error in console [09:50] clementine: symbol lookup error: clementine: undefined symbol: _ZN6lastfm2ws10SessionKeyE [09:50] how did you install clementine? [09:50] slackware binary package [09:50] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/audio/clementine/ [09:50] don't use binary packages, use slackbuilds. [09:50] and, get sbopkg: http://sbopkg.org [09:50] http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-13.0/multimedia/clementine/0.2/ tis [09:51] ok i try ;) [09:51] levus, you need lastfm installed [09:51] really, you're doing this the wrong way [09:51] Action: slava_dp doesn't trust slacky.eu's packages at all [09:52] i have last.fm installed [09:52] Aidar-Nagato (admin@77.79.178.77.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [09:54] Can anyone in here tell me how to create a 1gig file via dd and /dev/zero? count=1 bs=1024M ? [09:56] bs=1000 count=1000000 [09:56] must use "of=YOUR_NEW_FILE" too [09:56] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix) [09:57] dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/file bs=1000 count=1000000 [09:58] Aigh [09:58] +t [09:58] Nick change: hamed -> Blue-Slacker [09:58] Didn't get the bs parameter but understood it now [09:58] block size [09:59] Anyone experiences with xfs? Got a 2TB XFS filesystem which is full of small php-files and deleting 1gig takes 10mins [09:59] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [09:59] Any xfs performance hints for deleting? Mountoptions e.g.? [10:00] Don't use xfs. [10:00] Nick change: bgs000 -> bgs100 [10:00] Yes, I'm serious. It's *slow* on unlinks. [10:00] and now, I'm afk - later :-) [10:00] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.35.60) joined ##slackware. [10:01] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [10:01] *crash* [10:03] dartmouth (~dartmouth@72.95.97.163) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:03] Soooo, I wrote an MTA many years ago. A down and dirty one... [10:03] I used inetd to fire it off and it reads incoming mail through STDIN [10:04] Anyone know of a way to make it a little more secure by limiting what can come in STDIN (size wse)? [10:05] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:05] Or, make it a lot more secure by replacing it with a real MTA ... [10:07] Hmmm, haddn't thought of that... [10:07] Blue-Slacker (~root@91.99.197.247) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:08] Blue-Slacker (~root@91.99.197.247) joined ##slackware. [10:08] dChr (~dchr@freelancer.ceid.upatras.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:08] dChr (~dchr@freelancer.ceid.upatras.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:09] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [10:09] boneyee (~sixx@212.183.140.5) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:11] sinuhe (1000@12.50.9.36) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [10:13] brb [10:13] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [10:13] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:14] dngr (~dngr@n11649134009.netvigator.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:15] Hello, i want to change the default audio output, as soon as i plug my usb headphones in. I've been able to find this http://gleamynode.net/articles/1508/ , i'd like to know if it is a. possible, and b. a good idea [10:16] pim_: try the udev.command.at.unplug.usb example asoundrc files at http://home.roadrunner.com/~infofiles/asoundrc.examples.html but read the faq first [10:16] evanton (~cbbe@unaffiliated/evanton) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:17] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:17] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) joined ##slackware. [10:18] ke7xt (~plutt@a-129-196-226-147.ext.fluke.com) joined ##slackware. [10:19] solar_sea (~solar@85.14.14.82) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:21] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org expired. [10:21] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:21] so gnubien, i could just put that script in ~/.asouncrc and it should work? [10:21] Guest45780 (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [10:21] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:21] Guest45780 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: You seem to know exactly how far to push things before leaving the channel, which tells me that you deserve a ban anyway. Five days. Stop being such a drama queen. [10:21] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) left irc: Quit: ‚» [10:22] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [10:24] Any hints for fast filesystem with many small files (php-files) and daily in-/output? [10:25] fb|jean how about XFS with a small block size? [10:25] pim_: try it, see if it works, if not, may need some tweaking [10:25] Reiser3 is also good with that [10:27] gnubien alright [10:28] pim_: xfs gives me fckn' slow performance especially when deleting this file. Don't know what's wrong there. Will try Reiser [10:30] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:31] Action: alphageek pimps ext4 [10:31] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.155.156.55) joined ##slackware. [10:31] Action: hitest loves Fluxbox [10:31] Action: fb|jean is interested in women [10:31] lol [10:32] different kind of fluxbox [10:33] :-D [10:33] Has someone in here a paper / sheet about easy rsync-based incremental backup solutions? [10:33] gnubien it disables all of my sound-devices. KDE has asked me if it has to forget 'this' device permanently, and when starting the multimedia configuration of kde it will crash [10:36] newyork (~newyork@p5DC92006.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:37] pim_: bummer, kde chokes [10:37] Blue-Slacker (~root@91.99.197.247) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:38] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:38] gnubien so nothing can be done? [10:39] pim_: netsearch or ask in some kde channel, otherwise you have to change to using the usb card with manually by using the usb-default example asoundrc after you plug in the usb card [10:39] mernilio (~magnus@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [10:39] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*.A258.priv.bahnhof.se' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:39] mernilio kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Ooh, look, it's moron mernil! Oh, you're still banned - I had removed it since you hadn't been around in a while. I thought maybe you'd stepped in front of a bus or something. [10:39] wow, got keyboard dyslexia today ;) [10:39] fb|jean: start with http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ [10:39] ok i'll tinker a bit more with it then, thanks for the help gnubien [10:39] Nick change: Yandertal -> Yandertal_work [10:40] pim_: sure, hope you find the fix [10:40] alphageek: thx [10:40] my backup scheme started out with ideas gleaned from that & has since had ~8 years of slow evolution to what it is now [10:41] kk [10:41] fb|jean I have some info on that somewhere [10:41] fb|jean Its on my laptop at home though, argh [10:42] as of right now, I do daily _full_ backups of 5 machines keeping 7 days worth in rotation. I have 2 machines performing the backups (one set at 00:00, another at 12:00) so I can quite literally lose any machine on the lan & only be out a max of 24 hours of data [10:43] the slower of the 2 backup servers does its thing in just over 14 minutes, the faster just over 11 minutes [10:43] mtkoan: the url alphageek posted seems to have enough information I need but thanks anyway [10:43] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:44] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) joined ##slackware. [10:44] I could hand you my 'pull-backups' script (a mere 132 lines with comments), but it'd likely take most of an hour to describe all the magic it does [10:44] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [10:44] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [10:45] rabies (~micemicer@core.routed.com) joined ##slackware. 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[10:56] rabies: whats the warning? o.0 [10:56] http://pastebin.com/RU1vaRU3 [10:57] rabies: *read* the error log [10:57] is there anyway i can let programs 'break out' of a virtual terminal into x? [10:57] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:57] alsaconf issue. Change it to sound.conf [10:57] mv /etc/modprobe.d/sound{,.conf} [10:58] I'm off. Bye. [10:58] dChr (dchr@freelancer.ceid.upatras.gr) left ##slackware. [10:58] thanx [10:59] ke7xt (~user@a-129-196-226-147.ext.fluke.com) joined ##slackware. [10:59] phrag: that was it thanks [11:00] I should have read that and understood what It was telling me [11:01] rockslinux (~chatzilla@213.87.194.0) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:02] Damn. Don't know what went wrong with this xfs but the ext4 part rockz oO [11:03] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:03] can i allow programs ran from e.g. console to open a window in x? [11:04] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-122-24.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:06] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [11:07] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) joined ##slackware. [11:07] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:09] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: Bang Bang!!!! [11:10] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-122-24.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [11:11] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:12] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) joined ##slackware. [11:12] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) left irc: Client Quit [11:12] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) joined ##slackware. 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[11:26] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [11:26] yes [11:26] It's a part of slackware. [11:26] SMplayer is not. [11:26] strangly, i cannot find the install package... [11:26] zux1wrk: for which version of slackware are you looking? [11:27] 13.1 [11:27] 32/64? [11:27] 32 [11:27] Old_Spike0 (Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) left ##slackware. [11:27] Venomous-X (~kid@145.116.228.165) joined ##slackware. [11:28] i can only find this package: ./slackware-13.1/extra/mplayerplug-in/mplayerplug-in-3.55-i486-1.txz [11:28] look in ./slackware-13.1/slackware/xap/MPlayer* [11:28] ahh [11:28] with the M, not the m [11:28] ok, my bad [11:29] np :) [11:30] paratux (~user@91-114-215-232.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [11:30] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-122-24.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:30] Nick change: paratux -> freex [11:31] wertik_rus (~wertik@193.239.129.230) joined ##slackware. [11:33] freex_ (~user@93-82-105-62.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [11:39] crocket (quassel@121.168.91.143) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:40] alkos333 (~alkos333@173.7.183.169) joined ##slackware. [11:41] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.4) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:43] who knows the bash history modifier to call the last argument of previous command? [11:43] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:44] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [11:44] It's nice to be back on xchat. [11:44] alt+. [11:45] nice =) [11:45] thanks rob0.. is there a character too [11:45] like $_ or something [11:45] $_ maybe? [11:46] yeh that works a treat, cheers =) [11:47] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:47] Hey, I hate to be a bother and jump in like this, but does anyone know how to get sound on ZSNES? [11:47] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:48] 159ak7.r0ckit [11:48] wtf [11:48] what was this [11:48] oO [11:49] Anyone posted a password via remote desktop on this machine in irc? LOL [11:50] oh, crap... who... damn. [11:50] well a password is no good unless you give us a hostname or IP [11:50] ;oD [11:50] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:50] yeah [11:50] well, yeah... but if anyone knows 'em... where they live ofr their IP.... ye-ah... [11:51] hey, anybody knows why pidgin doesn't come with audio/video support in slackware? i had to recomplie it, it's quite a good alternative to skype [11:51] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:51] I gotta ask round who this was and haxx0r his accs :D [11:51] rafu: propably because this isn't default behaviour [11:51] fb|jean (champus@unaffiliated/champus) left ##slackware. [11:52] sinuhe (~sinuhe@199.227.49.182) joined ##slackware. [11:52] it is now, version 2.7.0 you'll have to disable it to not have voip in pidgin [11:53] hey, does anyone know how to get soung back on ZSNES... it's startin to drive me nuts... (sory, imma Linux noob) [11:54] alkos333 (~alkos333@173.7.183.169) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:54] ke7xt (~user@a-129-196-226-147.ext.fluke.com) joined ##slackware. [11:56] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-191-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:57] taopunk_m (~taopunk@166.137.14.216) left irc: Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi [11:58] spartanVI: i suggest that you look at what zsnes-specific support resources are available [11:59] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-191-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [11:59] ah, ok thanks [12:01] aperturefever (~abell@athedsl-201133.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:01] sbs` (~mfd@CPE001ee57a9930-CM001a6683085e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. 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[12:40] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*.A258.priv.bahnhof.se' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:40] sbs`, http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/ [12:40] I've checked it out [12:41] then what's the question? [12:41] fallen (~PolarBear@unaffiliated/thefallen) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:42] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.155.156.55) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:43] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-113-170.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:43] sixx (~sixx@212.183.140.62) joined ##slackware. [12:43] fallen (~PolarBear@unaffiliated/thefallen) joined ##slackware. [12:44] what services run through tcpwrappers? [12:44] alisonken1home: mind if I msg? [12:44] dustybin, most network services specified in /etc/inetd.conf [12:44] sbs`, sure [12:44] things like ftp stuff [12:45] wertik_rus (~wertik@193.239.129.230) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:45] alisonken1home: tcpwrappers would have no effect on postfix mail server? [12:45] port 25 [12:45] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:45] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:46] lowkyalur (~low@dslb-088-070-156-216.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: eating munchies [12:46] smtp protocol [12:47] Nick change: nixchix0R -> nix_chix0r [12:47] smtp is outbound unless you run a mailserver. the mailserver does not use inetd.conf to start, normally it's a standalone daemon [12:48] rabies (micemicer@core.routed.com) left ##slackware. [12:51] aye ok [12:51] Guest42805 (~kid@145-116-228-165.uilenstede.casema.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:52] gash (~gash@pool-71-163-118-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:55] vsftpd: 192.168.1.8 <--- this works in hosts.allow [12:55] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] vsftpd: 192.168.1.0/24 <--- this doesnt not work?! I thought this would specify a range [12:56] arcfide (~arcfide@adsl-99-31-15-216.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] did you try full rather than cid: 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 [12:57] vsftpd: 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 [12:57] haha u beat me [12:57] that works :D [12:57] Action: dustybin feels excited [12:58] gash (~gash@pool-71-163-118-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi [13:01] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:01] mysqld doesnt run through tcpwrappers [13:03] no - another standalone daemon [13:03] vsftp can run standalone or via wrappers [13:04] xsamurai (jamonyou@unaffiliated/xsamurai) left ##slackware. [13:04] xsamurai (~jamonyou@unaffiliated/xsamurai) joined ##slackware. [13:07] jspider1010 (~spider101@45.sub-72-107-6.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [13:08] oh i see [13:08] alisonken1home: i thought sshd is a standalone daemon [13:09] there is nothing inside /etc/inetd.conf regarding sshd [13:09] however, sshd works in tcpwrappers [13:10] qdustybin: look at /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd [13:11] im inside [13:12] iow - it's standalone [13:13] ok [13:13] it's almost a given that if there's an rc.* script for that program, it's not normally setup on slack as inetd.conf with tcpwrappers [13:14] alkos333 (~alkos333@70-8-35-17.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:14] i see [13:14] levus (~levus@g01-nat.satkol.pl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:15] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-144-42.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:15] my hosts.deny says: ALL: ALL [13:15] so i dont have to worry too much [13:15] if something doesnt work, just add a new rule to hosts.allow [13:16] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-144-42.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:17] i have put all these rules in regarding NFS [13:17] http://paste.debian.net/77652/plain/77652 [13:17] im not sure if i need all those, maybe my NFS will slow down if i dont allow access [13:20] you could always just put a general rule for that subnet - since nfs has to be explicitly exported for each directory you want to allow [13:20] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:21] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-191-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:22] ke7xt (user@a-129-196-226-147.ext.fluke.com) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [13:23] right, the next task is to setup a basic iptables firewall [13:24] i think i might try and create a script using this: [13:24] http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen/ [13:24] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-191-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [13:25] gbit (~no@mail.daiby.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:25] gh0st (~gh0st@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:26] why not try ufw or firestarter or any of the readily available frontends ? [13:26] does anyone use anything other than mkinitrd to make a ramdisk in Slackware? [13:26] adaptr: this is for my headless server, no xorg [13:26] hrm [13:27] sahko, not really - it's simple. but if you want, you can "less /sbin/mkinitrd" and see how slack does it [13:27] adaptr: what is shorewall like? [13:28] dustybin: never seen it , sorry [13:28] me neither, i imagine it is a bit too ott for my needs [13:29] jkwood (~jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:30] is it ok to use anything other than cpio for the ramdisk? [13:31] jkwood (~jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) joined ##slackware. [13:31] gbit (no@mail.daiby.com.br) left ##slackware. 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[13:39] Hi guys I have a non slackware related question [13:40] Nick change: satir -> burzum_ [13:40] in this video on second 42 [13:40] hi all [13:40] what is that movie [13:40] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2atFwHNycU [13:40] you can try - don't know if anyone will answer [13:41] i need chmsee, it is my preffered chm viewer in xfce and i dont want to run kchmviewer. there is a missing libgtkembedmoz.so. can i copy that lib from older version of seamonkey and will it colese with the installed seamonkey [13:42] Dr_Flower, possibly - but there may be lib dependency issues since older versions of slackware use older libs [13:43] Nick change: Roin -> afk|Roin [13:43] so, then what u use for chm files [13:43] Dr_Flower: i think rworkman has package for 13.1 [13:43] shorewall fits my needs, excellent :D [13:43] no, he didnt [13:43] xchm works fine for me [13:43] NthDegree (~NthDegree@88-107-191-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:43] felipe (~felipe@my.nada.kth.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:44] i use flux [13:44] but for me not, it crash every time i want to print or even when i move through pages [13:44] what version of slackware and did you do a full install? [13:45] 13.1 full install [13:45] okular should read chm files [13:45] well, slackbuilds.org has xchm and chmsee you can try [13:45] or try okular [13:45] and xchm do it from long time, may be with every version of slackware since 10.2 [13:45] chmsee shouldn't be at SBo any more - it won't build on 13.1 due to that missing lib [13:45] (seamonkey removed it, and I don't care enough to try and make chmsee build) [13:46] and there is kchmviewer [13:46] ok - the home machine hasn't been upgraded to .1 yet [13:46] rworkman: can i just copy that lib from seamonkey 1.* and will it colise with the installet seamonkey or somthing else [13:46] Dr_Flower: probably not [13:46] s/probably/almost surely/ [13:46] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-222-168.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:46] i see [13:46] rworkman, did you see my earlier q? [13:47] that what is my choise [13:47] alisonken1home: no [13:47] xsamurai: what is flux [13:47] rworkman, in #slackbuilds [13:47] oh,hrm [13:47] fluxobx [13:47] xchm should work fine with xfce [13:48] jkwood (~jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) joined ##slackware. [13:50] there is something with my locale, i use cp1251 [13:50] Error: Cannot convert from the charset 'Unknown encoding (-1)'! [13:50] polzwai utf-8 kreten [13:51] a varvi deto si se zabarzal [13:51] i am sorry :) [13:51] no he is not :D [13:52] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:54] and when i try to print from xchm it crash and return a segfault [13:54] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:54] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:04] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [14:08] v4nelle (~van@79.107.195.29) joined ##slackware. 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[14:19] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [14:19] pejman (pejman@188.34.71.111) left ##slackware. [14:20] anyone user mailscanner? [14:21] sbs` (~mfd@CPE001ee57a9930-CM001a6683085e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:22] im in 2 minds [14:22] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:22] gar0t0: nope [14:23] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org expired. [14:23] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:23] Guest45780 (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [14:23] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:23] Guest45780 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: You seem to know exactly how far to push things before leaving the channel, which tells me that you deserve a ban anyway. Five days. Stop being such a drama queen. [14:23] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:23] sbs` (~mfd@CPE001ee57a9930-CM001a6683085e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [14:24] is there any way to keep the ban in place until its expired [14:26] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:26] sbs` (~mfd@CPE001ee57a9930-CM001a6683085e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Changing host [14:26] sbs` (~mfd@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [14:28] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-tebgnndpwxujpwjn) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:33] jspider1010 (~spider101@45.sub-72-107-6.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:37] pnq (asdf@172.164.166.192) joined ##slackware. [14:37] Nick change: bgs100 -> bgs000 [14:39] +1 [14:39] Nick change: bgs000 -> bgs100 [14:39] gar0t0: don't use mailscanner. [14:39] gar0t0: amavisd-new is much better [14:39] revel0 (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~ [14:39] gar0t0: #mailscanner is fairly active, or used to be [14:40] gar0t0: but what's your actual question? [14:40] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [14:41] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:42] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [14:42] ananke: create a new file.rules [14:42] that's not a question [14:42] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:43] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) left irc: Quit: mosno [14:43] ananke: (now, the question :D) Is right I create file.rules using any name ? [14:44] thumbs: I know!! :( [14:44] i have no clue what that means, maybe you ought to ask in #mailscanner. i thought you were hoping to integrate mailscanner into slackare [14:44] slackware [14:45] v4nelle (~van@79.107.195.29) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:46] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [14:46] ananke: I asked on #mailscanner :) tks [14:46] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:49] any idea what can be wrong with bind/named when it refuses to start and named-checkzone/named-checkconf says Ok? [14:49] Look at the message log [14:50] im tailing it and it shows no errors [14:51] last thing it shows is "listening on ipv5 interface..." [14:51] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:51] I hope that is a typo... [14:51] s/5/4/ [14:51] Ah [14:51] :P [14:51] pnq (asdf@172.164.166.192) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:52] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-75-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:52] Do note that named(8) errors are logged in /var/log/syslog [14:52] oh [14:52] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:52] i thought it was all /var/log/messages [14:52] hold on [14:53] Jun 16 20:48:44 alcoholic named[1118]: could not configure root hints from 'named.ca': file not found [14:53] Jun 16 20:48:44 alcoholic named[1118]: loading configuration: file not found [14:53] heh [14:54] weird [14:54] Funny how easy it is when you have all the information! :) [14:55] file "named.ca"; [14:55] and it is in /etc/named/named.ca [14:55] is this not correct? [14:55] right, Slackware uses /var/named/[caching-example] [14:56] ls /var/named/caching-example/ [14:56] localhost.zone named.ca named.local named.root [14:57] thats all in /var/named/ [14:57] cp named.ca /var/named/ ? [14:57] Sorry, my magical powers are not seeing into your named.conf today. [14:58] 20:53:04 < C00re> file "named.ca"; [14:58] Perhaps YOU could look in there and see what directory you are using. [14:58] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:58] hm [14:58] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [14:58] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [15:00] directory "/var/named"; [15:02] sumati (~sumati@82.178.69.71) joined ##slackware. [15:02] benagain (~benagain@ResNet-32-143.resnet.ucsb.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:02] Is it possible to get slackware 13.1-64 on CD (rather than DVD)? [15:03] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:03] benagain: you can make a custom cd [15:04] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:04] xsamurai, is there a script for this? [15:04] benagain: you will need to use wget and mkisofs [15:05] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:05] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [15:06] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [15:06] benagain: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=3006438#post3006438 [15:06] there was a readme on slackware's older releases cant recall which one [15:06] but that link should be more then enough to get you there [15:07] ah, thanks that'll help [15:07] mad_ (~mad@brsg-d9bee550.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [15:07] np [15:07] Hey guys [15:07] arcfide (~arcfide@adsl-99-31-15-216.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:07] hello [15:07] hackedhead (~AndChat@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [15:08] I'm looking for the librecord.so, where do I get this one? [15:09] rabies (~micemicer@core.routed.com) joined ##slackware. [15:09] Grifulkin (~Ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:10] mad_: it was last part of xorg-server that shipped with slack 12.2. it no longer exists in slack 13.0 & 13.1 [15:10] anyone have any luck installing flash on x64? [15:10] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:11] alphageek: oh, I see [15:11] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:11] sbs`, I installed the old flash player 10.4.. whatever it is [15:11] sbs`: I've been running flash effortlessly on 64-bit for a couple years now. [15:12] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:12] jkwood, you've read that's full of security issues as of last week, no? :) [15:12] alphageek: Could I use the module from other sources? [15:13] thrice`: Just did, yes. Probably won't bother changing, though. [15:13] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:13] xsamurai, this link is helpful as well: http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/local-slackware-mirror/ [15:13] grazymax (~grazymax@host130-86-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:14] alphageek: resp. would an old module work with an current xserver? [15:14] nachox_ (~imarambio@201.254.121.235) joined ##slackware. [15:14] dont use alienBOB's stuff he's craaaaazy [15:14] I'm crazy enough to kick you for that [15:14] i have flash runniing on x64 [15:15] haha point made [15:15] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:15] jkwood: figured it out, thanks. [15:16] I used AlienBOB's script np [15:17] when I open bluetooth manager in 13.1 it says that bluez daemon isnt running, I cant find anywhere that had info on how to start/stop bluez [15:17] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [15:17] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:19] mad_: you could certainly try it, but don't expect much. there are likely enough abi/api changes that a 1.4.x module either won't work with 1.7.x or may cause it to go kaboom [15:19] remember: if you break it, you get to keep both halves [15:19] i would launch ff with an unprivileged user as in not my main account to avoid any flashing security holes [15:19] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [15:20] arcfide (~arcfide@adsl-99-50-224-27.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:20] credo (~credo@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. 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[15:31] arcfide (~arcfide@adsl-99-50-224-27.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:31] you would need a 32 bit browser if you wanted to run the new plugin that is, if you want to use the old one you still can that is what I am doing [15:33] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:34] nachox_ (~imarambio@201.254.121.235) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:36] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:40] mad_ (~mad@brsg-d9bee550.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:41] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [15:43] arcfide (~arcfide@adsl-99-14-209-49.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:46] does slackware ship apache with mod php ? [15:46] RickBuzzly (~rickbuzzl@166.205.138.101) joined ##slackware. [15:47] benagain (~benagain@ResNet-32-143.resnet.ucsb.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:47] Yep. [15:47] ohh [15:47] it is installed [15:47] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1024 Mar 21 21:04 mod_php.conf [15:47] but not activated?! [15:50] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:50] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:52] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:53] Arno[Slack] (~arno@92.90.16.16) joined ##slackware. [15:54] found it :D [15:54] Hello, when i click a certain icon in the KDE 'start' menu, it will not do anything. What could be the problem here? [15:55] dustybin: bewary of that file. [15:55] dustybin: it still uses AddType, I think. [15:56] RickBuzzly (~rickbuzzl@166.205.138.101) left irc: Quit: buh-bye. [15:56] eeek [15:56] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [15:58] dustybin: does it? [15:59] dustybin: if it does, read: http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.unix.apache2.php [15:59] dustybin: I was hoping Pat could correct that, but I guess it didn't make it. [15:59] it just uses [15:59] LoadModule php5_module lib64/httpd/modules/libphp5.so [15:59] SetHandler application/x-httpd-php [15:59] [15:59] dustybin: that is proper. [15:59] :D [15:59] Pat++ [16:02] thumbs: i manually created /etc/httpd/vhosts.d [16:02] and put a include in httpd.conf [16:02] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:03] dustybin: that's fine. [16:03] that beats 'sites-available' :D [16:03] dustybin: any day. [16:04] my next mission is SSL, then im done [16:05] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:05] The proper stuff would be in /etc/httpd/extra in my experience. [16:05] sixx (~sixx@212.183.140.62) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:06] jkwood: per the stock config files, yes. [16:08] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:08] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:08] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-27-69.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:09] jspider1010 (~spider101@45.sub-72-107-6.myvzw.com) left irc: Quit: Bye [16:13] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: . [16:16] tuvok302Lappy (tuvok302@clgrtnt5-port-57.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [16:16] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [16:19] Anybody have any MOU or software development agreements on hand for me use as a template ? [16:21] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:24] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org expired. [16:24] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:24] Guest45780 (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [16:24] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@support.team.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:24] Guest45780 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: You seem to know exactly how far to push things before leaving the channel, which tells me that you deserve a ban anyway. Five days. Stop being such a drama queen. [16:26] hackedhead (~AndChat@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Quit: Bye [16:27] banditman (~djt@92.14.52.241) joined ##slackware. [16:28] SSL works :D [16:30] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:30] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [16:34] Nick change: dive|bsd -> junius [16:34] xsamurai: will this help? ... http://www.excellone.com.au/draft_of_mou_and_nda.html [16:35] always best to get it vetted by a lawyer of course [16:35] as laws vary from palce to palce [16:35] aryr100 (~aryr100@64.132.183.186) joined ##slackware. [16:36] NyteOwl: thanks, was reading that earlier, so far its a pretty good base [16:37] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:38] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) joined ##slackware. [16:39] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [16:43] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [16:44] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:47] Urgleflogue (~plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:47] danix (~danix@host105-37-dynamic.246-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: my mind is shutting down in 3 minutes... [16:48] Nick change: afk|Roin -> Roin [16:49] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [16:51] hmm, is anyone familiar with cisco pix rules? :) [16:52] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Quit: meh :( I BROKE IT W000T [16:52] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [16:54] burzum_ (~strato@f048178007.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:55] burzum_ (~strato@f048048042.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:59] x-ip (~x-ip@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [17:00] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:01] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-168.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:01] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-151-207.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:03] pim_ (1000@slacker.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:05] dustybin: nice. You're quite more capable than the first time I saw you in #httpd. 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[17:15] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:15] dustybin: I'm happy to see that. [17:16] dustybin: the new ubuntu users are really doing themselves a disservice. [17:16] Urgleflogue (~plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [17:17] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:17] s/new // [17:18] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:18] Alan_Hicks: heh. [17:20] Alan_Hicks: howdy :) [17:20] Howdy! [17:21] pim (1000@stud173050.mobiel.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Hello, how would i go about updating alsa-lib? [17:22] Very carefully. [17:22] biker (~biker@201.170.70.225.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [17:22] i can't seem to find a package for it [17:22] I'd wear gloves. [17:22] hmm well i need it for vlc [17:23] What version of Slackware? [17:23] 13.1 [17:23] pim, find the alsalib slackbuild on a slackware mirror, edit it for version, run it [17:23] arcfide (~arcfide@adsl-99-50-229-43.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] pim, and grab any patches needed too (not that I've looked to see if there are any) [17:25] xdoctor (~Joseph@201008041246.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:25] banditman (~djt@92.14.52.241) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:25] felipe (~felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. [17:26] pim: which version do you need? [17:26] pim: are you sure you need a newer alsa-lib for vlc? [17:27] first I'v heard of it but didn't like to say [17:27] alienBOB's script ought to work with 13.1 [17:27] i ndeed at least 1.024 vlc reports [17:28] however, on the alsa site http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Download the latest listed one is 1.023 [17:28] heh [17:28] pim, tried alienBOB's slackbuild? [17:28] vlc has always been silly like that. Require non-GA releases. [17:29] junius no where can i find it? [17:29] pim, http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/vlc/ [17:29] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:29] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:30] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:30] i could try installin that, do i need to remove the old version? [17:31] how did you install old version? [17:31] from source or package? [17:32] if package you can use upgradepkg on new package, but source you should do 'make uninstall' [17:32] xdoctor (~Joseph@201008041246.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:33] junius with the slackbuils.org slackbuild [17:34] NightTiger (~derekm@ottawa-hs-64-26-171-99.s-ip.magma.ca) left irc: Quit: NightTiger [17:34] pim: I have never had to update alsa for my vlc package [17:34] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [17:35] What package of vlc do you have installed then? [17:35] well i think it might have to do with the fact that i have set kde to switch the default audio output device to my usb headphones when i plug it in [17:35] the slackbuilds.org one [17:35] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) joined ##slackware. [17:35] nothing from slackbuilds.org should need a newer package/lib than stock [17:35] slackbuilds.org doesnt have a vlc script [17:35] Yes, if vlc can not emit sound, it will complain by default about alsa, which is a bullshit reason [17:35] dartmouth (~dartmouth@72.95.97.163) joined ##slackware. [17:36] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:36] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:39] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:39] xdoctor (~Joseph@201008041246.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:41] uva (as@111-240-214-86.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:42] well i installed the latest version from http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/vlc/pkg/13.1/ [17:42] the problem still persists [17:42] it will output normally to my regular speakers, but not to the headset [17:45] so could it be the alsa lib or is that nonsense? [17:46] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:46] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [17:46] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:46] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:50] well i'm off to bed, thanks for the help [17:50] pim (1000@stud173050.mobiel.utwente.nl) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:53] suid0_ (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:55] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.63.199.99) joined ##slackware. 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[18:29] riza, to get pidgin to work you need to compile it with certain libs installed like libnice, farsight, gstreamer plugins, but we have only limited success with that. OTOH kopete and skype both work fine. [18:33] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:35] junius you mean confewrncing w/ pidgin? [18:35] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-144-42.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:35] I like kopete [18:35] mancha, no not conferencing, just normal v & v chat [18:36] it's been a while since I tried though, I'll admit [18:36] ok [18:36] does the dev list the requirements on his/her site? [18:37] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Quit: FSF Free Software Foundation [18:37] there was a post on pidgin site but I haven't looked for a while [18:38] tuvok302Lappy (tuvok302@clgrtnt2-port-90.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [18:39] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488ECE8.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:39] mancha, this is old now but relevant: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/vv#BuildingwithVoiceandVideo [18:39] seems it is gstreamer-properties [18:39] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [18:40] yes mostly - I have slackbuilds for libnice and farsight2 on sbo [18:41] ah yes, that is useful, thanks. [18:42] goj (~goj@p5488FDCF.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [18:42] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [18:42] ok - i guess i'll give it a shot. i figure if it's all there i just recompile and it'll pick it up, aye? [18:43] it shoudl work but like I say - I haven't tried it for a while [18:43] since 13.0 anyway [18:43] i am a pidgin half full kinda person, i bet it works... [18:43] :) [18:44] there are slackbuilds for the gst plugins on my site: http://www.dawoodfall.net/slackbuilds/13.1/ [18:44] i'm all gst-equipped, my mssing stuff is farsight [18:44] ok [18:45] hrmm, actually seems i have farsight here. wonder when i compiled that and for what... [18:45] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.63.199.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [18:45] and i also have libnice (a dep of farsight). [18:46] Nick change: burzum_ -> Imortal__ [18:46] Nick change: Imortal__ -> Immortal__ [18:47] is it used by amsn by chance? cause the dates are around when i installed amsn [18:47] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-10-147.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:47] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:48] mancha, not sure about that. [18:48] Nick change: Immortal__ -> I_AM_GOD [18:48] Nick change: I_AM_GOD -> _I_AM_GOD_ [18:48] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-10-147.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [18:51] mancha, I've installed amsn in the (long ago) past but don't recall those as deps [18:53] junius, confirmed, it might be that it uses it if present - ie not a hard dep [18:53] but that's why its there. [18:54] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-144-42.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [18:54] dive, why are you called junius now? [18:55] you just broke his cover [18:55] he switched from dive|bsd to junius on his FBSD VM. [18:55] alienBOB, well I was dive|bsd because I'm going through a bsd vm but thought I'd like a different nick [18:55] he was infiltrating a gang of columbian heroin dealers who used ubuntu as their primary OS [18:56] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:56] wat? [18:56] indeed? [18:56] was ist das?!? [18:56] heroin dealers using ubuntu !, ju don no [18:57] not all of them use ubuntu, i use slackware! [18:57] they were pretty stupid dealers though [18:57] ops [18:57] cypherpunko (~root@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:57] n00b dealers [18:57] nealers [18:57] :| [18:57] mind you that was a Puerto rican heroin dealer , i've never heard of a Columbian sounding like that [18:58] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-144-42.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:59] columbian is from university of columbia? or you made a typo on colombia? [18:59] Transformer (~Transform@ool-4a59e397.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [19:00] guax: typo , good catch [19:00] +1 [19:00] xsamurai, right, in university pot is the king, no place to heroin [19:01] lunch time :D [19:01] pim_ (1000@slacker.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [19:01] by far i have to say they have the highest rate of beautiful women in south america [19:01] nah, brazil is better [19:01] xsamurai, as brazilian i have to disagree [19:01] haha, knew that was coming [19:01] and puerto rico is 2nd [19:01] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: Bye [19:01] Brazilian girls were quite nice indeed [19:02] alienBOB: that sounds like a dirty old man comment [19:02] Did not look beyond Sao Paulo though... [19:02] it only gets better as you get to rio [19:02] Transformer (~Transform@ool-4a59e397.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:03] although some say the best are in bahia [19:05] _slax0r_ (~fire@slackware.x-shells.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [19:05] Skywise: I seem to have lost my train of thought, actually my train of thought is now doing the conga line [19:05] thats about right [19:06] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [19:06] i knew in the airport i never wanted to leave [19:07] _slax0r_ (fire@slackware.x-shells.org) joined ##slackware. [19:08] Urgleflogue (~plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:08] I havent gone to brazil yet but I've spent a couple summers in costa rica and dominican , there were a fair share of various nationalities to leave us completely speechless [19:08] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:09] when you get there, its a sweet and sour moment [19:10] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [19:10] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:10] your first reaction is elation at all the beautiful women and then the sadness comes as you realize you won't even get to have a percentage of them [19:11] yeah thats what annoys me [19:11] really makes you ponder about life in general [19:11] john_dee (~id@93-81-71-215.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [19:11] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:11] so many women and so little time [19:11] i saw these 4 women each so awesome it would be painful to say no to the others just to have one [19:12] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-65.fpscc.den.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [19:12] haha, they are just built differently down there [19:12] im gonna stop this conversation for the sake of my sanity [19:13] yeah, i just happen to be listening to brazillian music [19:13] they don't have two arms and legs and .. ? [19:13] :) [19:13] they got everything the way it was supposed to be and then some [19:13] NyteOwl: every part is made for performance [19:13] cypherpunko (~yogini@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:14] lol. I went to college with two girls from Sao Paulo :) [19:14] Transformer (~Transform@ool-4a59e397.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] NyteOwl: so obviously a foss channel, eh? menfolk forgetting what ladyfolk look like cuz they havent seen 'em in so long... [19:16] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:16] :P [19:16] TVRGriff500 (~ciaranowe@92.9.138.117) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:16] rheault (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] is it possible to bind a process in gdb and chdir it ? [19:17] maco: some her probably fir that description :) [19:17] and if so, what would break ? [19:17] er fir [19:17] maco: you'd be surprised , some slackware users are complete opposite of the standard portrayed "geek" image [19:17] trhodes: hmm, not sure [19:17] *fit [19:17] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:17] like me for example , i walk around in a ninja costume all day [19:17] xsamurai: i know ;-) i met Alan_Hicks this past weekend... O_O [19:18] and a straight jackeet all night [19:18] heh [19:18] NyteOwl: yep =) but no straight pants , just the jacket [19:18] Transformer (Transform@ool-4a59e397.dyn.optonline.net) left ##slackware. [19:18] the reason I ask about chdir'ing already-running processes is that i want to avoid hung nfs mounts in sudden shutdowns [19:18] Nick change: BsdNeo -> SlackNeo [19:19] Nick change: SlackNeo -> BsdNeo [19:20] afik, change directory on a already running process, not gonna happen [19:20] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [19:20] yeah, the program can't be expected to know abot it [19:20] *about [19:20] crazy talk i say [19:20] you should try to resolve the sudden shutdowns [19:20] that would be more logical [19:20] heh, weather to blame [19:21] (small ups batteries :/) [19:21] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:21] aint happening , no excuse for sudden shutdowns [19:21] get a bigger ups [19:21] i guess i could just use something stateful [19:21] yeah [19:21] Grifulkin (~Ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:22] even with small ups setup automatic shutdown, so you dont frag your drive [19:22] not so much sudden as quicker than I like [19:22] about 10 minutes [19:23] plenty of time for you to take the system down [19:24] yeah, i just either 1) have to deal with (work around) NFS or 2) not use it [19:24] as long as the brazilian girl doesn't give you dengue fever all is well. *wink* [19:24] haha [19:24] whats up with nfs [19:25] eh, i've had problems with umounts taking forever [19:25] mancha: dont you know , you can conga your dengue fever away [19:25] do you have processes accessing the mount ? [19:25] often, yes, and those are easy to deal with (kill 'em), but sometimes, no, no userspace process can tell me what's up but i still get EBUSY [19:26] (fuser and lsof won't show anything open) [19:26] iirc, i've tried /proc for that, too [19:26] im guessing these are writes ? [19:27] writeable shares ? yes [19:27] no the process itself [19:27] duno that they should really be busy [19:27] you are writing not reading during the hangs [19:27] which version of nfs are you using ? [19:27] 3 [19:28] k [19:28] how can I tell ? [19:28] add this in your fstab and remount the share nfs rw,async,hard,intr,suid 0 0 [19:28] i gotta head out its time to head home, hopefully that should fix your performance issue [19:28] peace [19:28] ok, thanks [19:28] ff 3.6.4 is turning out to be vaporware... [19:29] xsamurai (~jamonyou@unaffiliated/xsamurai) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [19:29] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[19:48] no 14 quem sabe [19:49] will compile and see whats fixed [19:49] oops, i swore i was on -br =P [19:50] no there [19:52] powtrix, you are a shame to brazilians, then =~ [19:52] unless you portuguese [19:53] some rules there I disagree [19:53] like "registre seu nick".. [19:53] humm [19:54] if its a free channel why lock as its [19:54] that keeps some of the riff raff out [19:54] understand "lock", btw we have the decision [19:55] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.75.80) joined ##slackware. [19:55] dl'ing kde at 420kb/s :) [19:56] jealous [19:56] ok, the reduction in the module is quite impressive. [19:56] i wonder why it is so much smaller.. [19:57] maybe they took out the debugging code [19:58] could be. i'm amazed, its several fold... [19:58] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:59] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.35.60) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:59] actually setting up a test with intr on a laptop atm [21:59] looking at the manpage again, i think that's what I want [21:59] try it with the settings i pasted earlier [22:00] yeah, got a share mounted that way now [22:00] async, though? is that so operations that will take a while can stll be interrupted ? [22:00] *still [22:01] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:01] nope [22:01] its purpose is to have the server reply while in the process of writing [22:02] http://nfs.sourceforge.net/ you can read about it here [22:02] ah ok, thanks again [22:02] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.69) joined ##slackware. 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