[00:01] macavity (~charlotte@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:01] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:02] Spaceghost (irssi@unaffiliated/spaceghost) joined ##slackware. [00:02] sorry [00:02] just don't do it again [00:03] what I did? [00:03] dunno, you;re the one apologizing [00:03] lol [00:04] mancha, do you use slackware? [00:04] I would like do a CTCP version of someone that use, for know what appears [00:04] can I do one to you? mancha [00:04] heya MLanden, how's it going? [00:05] heya,fire|bird...goin' good thanks...you? [00:05] going great, thanks. :) [00:05] ctcp version will not give a distrib-dependent response. the response is constructed by the client. [00:05] yes [00:05] so my using slackware or not is wholly irrelevant [00:06] but in some clients [00:06] show what distro use the [00:06] you know [00:06] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [00:06] oh i see. i don't care if you version me. i think it's silly you're trying to get a string to spoof though :/ [00:07] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:07] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [00:09] mancha, I don't understand [00:10] StonedSlacker (~amy@cpe-075-181-029-013.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:10] ok [00:11] Spaceghost: irssi? [00:11] mancha, to get a string? [00:12] Guys, I need quick help is possible. I have decided that rather than try to mount the drive with the mystery filesystem and indefinetly tie up my external hdd I would just image it. How do I do it? I dont have much time. [00:12] lee555J5, why you answer this? [00:12] my user, I know [00:12] dd it [00:12] That's what I thought mancha, cool. [00:12] fire|bird, was messin' with rockbox's simulator earlier..there's a few nice new ones with the latest [00:13] MLanden: cool. Turns out I couldn't upgraded to 3.5.1, no support with that for the clip, yet anyway. :P [00:13] Spaceghost: I didn't answer. I asked a question. [00:13] I am not very swift with dd. axtroz gave me some good docs to read on the subject but they are not accessible atm [00:13] sorry [00:13] is the hour [00:14] laj (~laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:14] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:14] dd if=/dev/sda of=/mysterybits [00:14] will that work? [00:14] just one partition or the whole thing? [00:14] Spaceghost: are you trying to configure irssi? [00:14] the whole thing is just one partition [00:14] Stoned, thatworks [00:14] StonedSlacker: su -c 'dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/media/destination/image.img' [00:15] yes, well something similar [00:15] Killer! Thanks notKlaatu [00:15] if I can put any jocke when someone did to me a CTCP VERSION [00:15] for example, said: [00:15] Windows 3.1 [00:15] or similar [00:15] :P [00:15] what is the -c? [00:15] well of course substitute the right /dev/sdxxx for what applies to you [00:15] fire|bird, had to back track to 3.0.1 to emulate mine (IRiver IFP 890)..still not flashable but no worries..:P [00:15] -c runs the command as root [00:15] yup [00:15] su - just logs in as root, no command -- just a bash prompt [00:16] doesnt su do that? Why not sudo? [00:16] Spaceghost: Hey, that's close. I configured mine for notepad.exe [00:16] sure if you're using sudo [00:16] some of these commands that are now given here left and right have an interesting story [00:16] sudo only works if your sudoers file is setup right [00:16] i don't so i use su -c [00:16] su -c is foolproof [00:16] right [00:16] :O [00:16] thassright, an im a fool [00:16] Spaceghost: Like mancha said, it doesn't mean much [00:16] here goes nuthin [00:16] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [00:16] the logs'll show the story [00:16] well [00:17] Just be extra careful about the of= part of dd. THAT's the dangerous part. ;) [00:17] I am using other distro, and don't like to the people know it, I don't like all this type of flame [00:17] yes i know what you're trying to do, you wanna spoof another distrib [00:17] it was crystal clear to me from the second you asked your Q [00:18] :) [00:18] Spaceghost: so set your ctpc version reply. [00:18] sorry for the disturb, guys [00:18] mancha, my Q? what is this? [00:19] briareus (~briareus@ip68-3-248-240.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:19] briareus (~briareus@ip68-3-248-240.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Changing host [00:19] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [00:19] I have to say that dd is a handy little utility [00:19] never mind, this has grown too hard to explain. [00:19] Q = question [00:19] dd is quite amazing yes... [00:19] Spaceghost: we normally don't query people's ctcp_version and kick them if it's not Slackware :) [00:19] however... [00:19] well [00:19] Always a time to start [00:20] thanks :) [00:20] so A=answer and not (*)...:P [00:20] lol [00:20] sorry,could help it....:D [00:20] What distro? [00:20] ( * ) [00:20] given the penchant for big macs... [00:21] lol [00:21] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-155.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:21] ...and i cannot lie... [00:21] nice donut [00:22] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-136.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [00:22] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [00:23] oh yeah, dd is doin the trick! I was able to mount the drive with usbfs and also with tmpfs. Ofcourse listing the contents after mount showed funkiness, not coherent data and also it was different funkiness of different sizes depending on which fs type I called it. [00:24] antler (~antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [00:24] Both showed up as tiny though not near the huge files that should have been there but ol' dd is still running, so its found something fat in there. [00:24] StonedSlacker, what's the fs to the device? [00:24] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-53.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] Swap, by accident. You musta missed part one of this epic saga [00:25] StonedSlacker: You could try running "file" on the image or the filesystem. [00:25] I know this isn't a slackware specific question but I like yall most. [00:25] jkwood: Will do [00:26] if slack is on the left, then my question is on the right. i have at least 2 x 1tb drive, ntfs format. each is 931gb. i have a 2tb, ntfs format. it is 1.81tb. why do i lose more with the 2tb? [00:26] I'm getting ready to fire up me slack box and find something broke for yall to help me fix lol [00:26] Whoops... that doesn't do what I wanted it to. [00:26] StonedSlacker, gotcha..did miss that part..:P [00:26] delete random files :-D and see if we can solve it [00:26] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-139.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:26] Drive sizes are reported as powers of 10 instead of powers of 2. It's a marketing ploy. [00:27] The drives are as expected [00:27] fhobia: I need the antidote to rm -rf / [00:27] StonedSlacker dd has many neat features but the one you mentioned is not one of them, since it's byte for byte, it'll take the same time if it finds something PHAT or a drive full of zeros [00:27] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-155.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [00:28] mancha: Let me live in my fantasy world [00:28] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.127.214) joined ##slackware. [00:29] T3slider: ah. huh? [00:29] :D [00:29] ok. damn, if it's taking so long it must be finding some crazy phat files full of sexy goodness :> [00:29] Action: antler likes sexy goodness. [00:29] 2 tb = 2x1000x1000x1000x1000 bytes. 2,000,000,000,000/1024/1024/1024/1024 = 1.82 tb [00:30] difference between giga and gigi etc [00:30] Every drive you will find is reported in powers of 10 instead of 2 so it looks like it has a slightly higher capacity [00:30] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-55.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:30] er gibibyte i meant [00:31] I think the distinction is capital GB = 1000 MB, Gb = 1024 Mb or something. I can never remember [00:31] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-139.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:31] so technically, terrabye is 10^7 while tebibyte is 1024^4 [00:32] T3slider: ah. so the larger the cap of the drive, the more you appear to be losing [00:32] Yep [00:32] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte [00:32] For all the info in chart format. :D [00:32] i agree, they screwed us over but to be fair, we stole the decimal prefixes unfairuly [00:32] decimal is all powers of 10, not of 2 :) [00:33] heh and i was expecting something like 'it's the way the platters are set up' or something like that :P [00:34] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.227.194) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:35] veritos (~veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:35] brb with a full report guys :^D [00:36] fortunately we're not talking all that much, on a 1GB drive, the "loss" is 7%, on 1TB its 9% and on 1 PB it is 11% [00:36] StonedSlacker (~amy@cpe-075-181-029-013.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:36] mancha, are we talking about filesystem overhead? [00:36] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-224.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:36] for a 1MB drive (oh those were the days...) the loss factor is 4.5% [00:37] no, just computing how much less you get due to using the 1000 versus 1024 that T3slider mentioned [00:38] Action: veritos ponders whether he should root his Nook [00:38] not too often, you can go blind [00:39] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-55.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:39] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [00:40] DareDevil (~Another@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:40] Hi you there [00:40] Does Gnome works well in slackware? [00:40] Depends which Gnome distribution you get [00:40] I mean slackbuild works well? [00:41] Last one [00:41] with the las slackware distro [00:41] I mean slackbuild v2.2 with slackware v13.0 [00:41] Don't use it myself, sorry [00:42] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:42] ok what kind of Window manager do you use if you use one of course [00:42] i don't like kde is to heavy [00:43] I use xmonad but that's pretty nerdy and not for the faint of heart. Though it is nice when customized properly. But it really is a window manager as opposed to a desktop environment. XFCE is nice for a DE if you want one [00:43] DareDevil: fluxbox [00:44] DareDevil, what features are you looking for? [00:44] maddslacker (~corey@71-212-184-108.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:44] Wescotte (~WuzzleWaz@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:45] a full install gives you 231 different ones to try. why not try them? [00:45] DareDevil^^ [00:46] i am just looking to learn slackware and in the same time have access to some others stuffs in my computer [00:46] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-224.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:46] such as watch a movie [00:46] or listen to music [00:47] or see a book in pdf [00:47] I'd just go for KDE, Gnome or XFCE. If KDE is too bloated give XFCE a try (it's also included by default with Slackware) [00:47] but if i use Slackware and other OS [00:47] then i will never learn slack [00:48] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-162.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:48] install slackware and freebsd [00:48] lol [00:48] xfce is not so heavy as KDE ? [00:48] DareDevil: take a lot at ratpoison or dwm [00:49] if you like keyboarding [00:49] hallstatt_sword, ok that is what i will going to do and also going to buy a gun to kill myself [00:49] kde's nice :) [00:49] indeed :) [00:49] XFCE is nice and full-featured but much lighter than KDE. Try it, you've got nothing to lose since it's included with slack anyway [00:50] T3slider, thanks seems to be a good choice [00:50] `xwmconfig` and you're done. :) [00:50] fluxbox too [00:50] DareDevil: there is a guide about playing dvds in slackware, you can get to its page with ease using your favorite search engine [00:51] do you use pure fluxbox or install a lot of utils to complement it? [00:51] DareDevil, here's a site that can give you some insight on some of what is(or was) available... http://xwinman.org/ [00:51] Grab libdvdcss and launch xine. Done like dinner. I still prefer xine for dvd menus (and mplayer for everything else) [00:52] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.211.146) joined ##slackware. [00:52] i will see? [00:52] sorry i will see [00:52] maddslacker (corey@71-212-184-108.hlrn.qwest.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:52] all seems to be good choices [00:52] i'm sure a lot of work went into making cde and maybe many peeps dig it, but damn it's nasty (imo). [00:53] :D [00:54] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:55] antler: many people were tortured to make cde ;) [00:55] BP{k}: oh hey. did you see that property i was going to invest in? [00:55] built into the wall [00:55] antler: no? [00:56] ppl, when i login as root I got "Warning: add_groups: Invalid Argument". what is doing that? [00:57] powtrix: 13? 12.x? full, custom? [00:57] Spaceghost (irssi@unaffiliated/spaceghost) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:57] briareus (~briareus@63-226-51-21.phnx.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:57] briareus (~briareus@63-226-51-21.phnx.qwest.net) left irc: Changing host [00:57] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [00:58] powtrix: I get the same thing in -current. [00:59] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-40.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:59] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/i-get-warning-addgroups-invalid-argument-after-logging-in.-749348/#post3662963 [00:59] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.29.121) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:59] powtrix maybe you're in too many groups [00:59] Number of groups in /etc/group > 16? [00:59] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [00:59] BP{k}: just a small dwelling in the uk worth 12.5 mil pounds. was looking at property after you posted that one in france [00:59] what does "groups [00:59] show? [00:59] >16 groups ? weird [00:59] 55 group lines return [01:00] hah [01:00] Not the number of groups but the number of groups that the user is in [01:00] antler: "how small"? [01:00] type "groups" as root [01:00] BP{k}: one sec [01:00] root bin daemon sys adm disk wheel floppy audio video cdrom tape plugdev power netdev scanner qemu [01:00] grep root /etc/group | wc -l [01:00] BP{k}: http://search.knightfrank.com/cho070542 [01:01] 17 [01:01] take away one goup [01:01] i'm sure you can find a room in there for your computers [01:01] tape? [01:01] Hell, root most of those permissions implied anyway, n'est-ce pas ? [01:01] this 16 limit is fubar though, screwed up code [01:02] NFS limitation? ouch [01:02] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:02] antler: Good to see you're staying modest. ;) [01:02] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-162.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:02] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [01:03] BP{k}: no, no. that's just the guest house. the one i would be living in is a 1/4 mile south. :P [01:03] antler: stock up the fridge .. I'll be over! ;) [01:04] :D [01:05] \o antler [01:05] i ever get that... hell i'll fly everyone over for a lan party, good weed, and fine beer? :P [01:05] fire|bird: yo! [01:06] If that's staying modest...... :P [01:06] (whores included, of course) [01:06] of course, can't have a lan party without whores, just doesn't work. [01:06] hard limits that are just enough are very dumb [01:06] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-155.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:07] although, I must say, this is ##slackware-offtopic sort of talk. :P [01:07] they should just use 2^10 groups from the get-go and forget it [01:07] fire|bird: hahah [01:07] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:07] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-40.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [01:07] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [01:07] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:08] antler: a pool too? Trying to become the next Michael Phelps? What happened to your laziness? :P [01:08] pattwo (~pat@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:08] anavel (~Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:08] antler: yeah, I have to agree with fire|bird, git your arse in ##slackware-offtopic [01:09] just be careful of the bombs. ;) [01:09] are there any decent (ie, not ancient) books on NFS ? [01:10] lol @ "XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve your problem, you aren't using it enough." [01:10] i cannot queue a song in Songbird huh... [01:11] Some people, when confronted with a problem, think ``I know, I'll use XML''. Now they have two problems. [01:11] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [01:12] Our software doesn't output XML. Obviously the solution is to scrap it and start over. [01:13] alreadygone, is it locking up or just ignoring? [01:13] XML isn't bad, just many people misuse it. [01:13] I right click on a song and there isno option for queue [01:14] just installed it [01:16] alreadygone, songbird or the queue option? [01:16] queue option [01:16] *in* songbird [01:16] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:16] do you use Songbird? [01:18] not in quite a while...used to lock up when queueing on me...can you start songbird from the terminal and see if there's any errors? [01:19] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) joined ##slackware. [01:21] lee555J5 (lee555J5@68.113.105.67) left ##slackware. [01:21] is it normal? my pc has eth[0-1] connected in the router. I was downloading a file and the traffic was working at eth1, after a 'ifconfig eth1 down' the eth0 continued to get the download. [01:22] doomey (~doomey@188.24.10.68) joined ##slackware. [01:22] doomey (~doomey@188.24.10.68) left irc: Client Quit [01:23] stuart_ (~stuart@124.13.57.91) joined ##slackware. [01:23] i was wondering [01:23] ok MLanden [01:24] do any of you do linux for your career [01:24] whats that mean? [01:24] you mean develop it or use it? [01:24] there are linux pros here [01:25] as in have linux as a career [01:25] yes [01:25] like linux server admins, or anything to do with it [01:25] what is the market like? [01:25] yes, sure. [01:25] powtrix: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking/bonding.txt [01:26] MLanden, http://www.pastie.org/871569 where is the option to queue? I right click on a song in playlist but there is no option. I press 'q' nothing happens.... [01:26] SiegeX (219@c-76-102-150-28.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:26] SiegeX (219@c-76-102-150-28.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [01:26] SiegeX (219@unaffiliated/siegex) joined ##slackware. [01:26] stuart_: i don't know, haven't looked into the market. i just know that i don't take a job unless they let me use teh linux. [01:27] k [01:27] was thinking of a career change, maybe i.t. [01:27] don't know if it's worth pursuing [01:28] not that i have this issue but i patched my slackware to allow for 128 groups without warnings. [01:28] and none of that 'whatever makes you happy' crap cos i've had a "happy" job but nothing to show for it after 6 years except extra long hours and extra low pay [01:28] neat :) [01:28] Wescotte (~WuzzleWaz@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:28] (that was at mancha) [01:29] stuart_, well, there's always "Tech Support" :) [01:29] heh, i just hate feeling constrained [01:29] nfsv4 ought to be better (but it's stateful, and I know nothing about it) [01:29] exbio (~efzaexbio@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:30] veritos (veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). 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[03:57] Nick change: cybErpunk -> davi [03:57] Nick change: davi -> davi` [03:58] Nick change: davi` -> cybErpunk [03:59] Reticent1 (~reticenti@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [04:01] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:02] slava_dp (~slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [04:02] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:03] what is a good alternative to tvtime wrt watching video from a webcam? [04:04] Reticent1 (~reticenti@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:04] tuvok302 (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-53.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:05] Axius (~fd@92.82.86.111) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:06] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-195.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:06] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4134, sources date: 20100125, built on: 2010-03-15 04:15:14 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [04:07] antler (~antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: [04:09] antler (~antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [04:11] Coke (~coke@c-b3bee055.1212-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [04:12] Hi guys! I'm about to install an OS on a new rackserver, does slackware have something similar to Debian's security updates or do I have to subscribe to RSS feeds and upgrade manually when need be? [04:13] Coke: review the Slackware changelog - security updates are currently available back to Slackware v8.1 [04:14] http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 [04:14] Is there even an update feature in slack? [04:14] the link is for -current, but changelogs will tell you about security updates [04:14] Coke: slackpkg [04:14] Well, might as well give it a try. [04:14] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-71.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [04:14] Oh, one more question: are the slackware package maintainers insane? [04:15] alisonken1home: why not just go to patches? [04:15] It may sound like an odd question, but I know fo' shizzle that some of the Debian maintainers are. [04:15] antler: slackpkg uses patches/ as well faik [04:15] Python, apache and exim are just packaged as they would be from source upstream, right? [04:15] Coke: look at slackware package management - you still have to do your own dependencies [04:15] No split files, no weird hacks and hooks that break the system? [04:16] alisonken1noc: that's very 1989, but still OK [04:16] none as far as I know - all slackware packages are built from upstream sources with only enough changes to get them to build (if any) [04:16] Nice. [04:16] actually, I (and many slackware users) prefer to maintain our own dependencies - keeps from getting things you don't want [04:16] like mono [04:17] I don't have mono on my debian, archlinux or frugal installatinos [04:17] And they all keept track of deps [04:17] just an example [04:17] I get what you mean. Archlinux have had deps on VST plugins for some audio software which required Wine [04:17] I installed alienBOB's 32bit compat libs, them dowloaded GoogleEarth.bin, installed as user (can't do it as root) and when I tried to run it i got a Segmentation Fault error. I did a ln -s /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1 [04:17] and then google strated but crashed with this error [04:17] Nice with Wine requirement to install a small softsynth for linux [04:17] http://pastebin.org/114017 [04:18] Azeotrope: what is "cat /etc/slackware-version" [04:19] zux1wrk (~zux@80.232.209.244) joined ##slackware. [04:19] agentc0re: Slackware 13, 64 bit [04:19] wow... that's the output? [04:19] weird... [04:20] agentc0re: no [04:20] i would expect something differnt. [04:20] agentc0re: output is Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 [04:20] uname -a [04:21] it shows that for me as well, but I'm on 64-current [04:21] i just ld an executable (on a non-multilib system) [04:21] Azeotrope: hrm... weird. It took me humiliating you to express your actual version. I still don't believed you now because you lied to me. [04:22] agentc0re: what? how did I lied you? [04:22] when [04:22] Action: agentc0re pulls teh log [04:23] OHhhh i remember.. [04:23] http://noobfarm.org/?query=azeotrope [04:23] azeotrope. right? [04:24] SiegeX (219@unaffiliated/siegex) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:24] whoops, i meant run "file" on an executable (to see whether i'm working with a 32 or 64 bit system) [04:24] where's the lie? i wanna see it. [04:25] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.209.42) joined ##slackware. [04:26] Azeotrope: i left the lie in your moms pants.... sorry. [04:26] it's huge, so it can not be missed. [04:27] Action: agentc0re goes out with a bang [04:27] agentc0re: i really don't know what are you chatting about [04:28] LTL2h (~LTL2h_@AToulouse-258-1-45-93.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:28] any idea on how i could solve the Google Earth issue? [04:29] guys, what kind of speeds are you getting with internal sata to sata transfers? [04:30] ... hrm... i'm not convinced you are using slackware you son of a fucking bitch. [04:30] lol [04:30] antler: :D [04:30] antler: you know me. :D ahh. speed. one sec. [04:30] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.73.4) joined ##slackware. [04:31] agentc0re: consistent as opposed to the initial burst [04:31] Azeotrope: just because you come to offtopic doesn't mean you'll get off topic help for slackware. [04:31] grep -v /etc/slackpkg/mirrors ^# [04:31] http://slackware/slackware/slackware64-current/ [04:32] http://www.speedtest.net/result/750293229.png [04:32] grep -v ^# /etc/slackpkg/mirrors (corrected grep) [04:32] agentc0re, slow link [04:32] Azeotrope: type is just some fucking lame troll... [04:32] alisonken1noc: ESAD! :P [04:33] !bomb Azeotrope [04:33] :D [04:33] lol [04:33] wtf. [04:33] !bomb Azeotrope [04:33] http://www.speedtest.net/result/750294649.png [04:34] agentc0re, wrong channel :) [04:34] alisonken1noc: holy shit man [04:34] shit... [04:34] obnauticus (~obnauticu@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [04:34] nice working in a noc :) [04:35] ..... major fail on my part... dont tell anyone NOC.. :P [04:35] ;) [04:35] Action: agentc0re dreams about twitter [04:35] shit.... [04:35] i hate it when i select the wrong tab [04:35] that bottle of wine maybe taking effect now [04:36] antler: , google "hide and seak, imogen heap" [04:37] alisonken1noc: what's a noc? [04:37] I just started the installation and already found a snag [04:37] "netowrk operations center" [04:37] the space where we keep the main servers [04:37] ah [04:37] I choose qwerty/se-latin1 and upon the test screen I still get: tada! US keyboard. [04:37] agentc0re: are you japanese? [04:37] Azeotrope: no, i am your mom. [04:38] agentc0re: cool song or what? [04:38] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:39] agentc0re: wanna talk about your inner problems and hate in -offtopic? [04:39] How do I pick non US keyboard at installation [04:39] ? [04:39] Azeotrope: sure. [04:39] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-249.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:39] I pick qwerty/se-latin1 from the list, testtype and still have US [04:39] agentc0re: crazy ass lyrics [04:39] antler: but the fish wins. [04:40] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:40] Azeotrope: join ##offtopic-slackware [04:41] Is Slackware a bleeding edge rolling release distro? [04:41] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-132-39.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:41] won't loadkeys and xkbmap fix Coke's layout problems, or am I mistaken ? [04:42] trhodes: im not in X [04:42] this is the installer [04:42] loadkeys [04:42] No, I pick it from the list [04:42] yes, i would expect that to work, but I've never used another layout [04:42] http://imgur.com/DAY4p&J9lFn <-- my desk [04:43] trhodes: I would expect it to work as well [04:43] Tbh Slackware doesn't really give me the confidence that Debian does [04:43] http://imgur.com/WoMfc <-- one row of the computers we have [04:43] alisonken1noc: thanks for posting a sideways pic. my neck. [04:43] Coke: not exactly [04:44] the closest to rolling release is -current (or 64-current), but only recommended if you know what you're doing [04:44] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-71.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [04:44] antler, rotate your monitor :) [04:44] alisonken1noc: so what I have is considered stable? [04:44] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-78.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [04:44] my head is less expensive to fix, if it breaks [04:45] Coke: it's typically normal to assume slackware-current is usually more stable than most distros -stable branch [04:45] the only possible exception might be debian, but that's debatable with some of the decisions they have made recently [04:46] Coke: what iso did you d/l? [04:47] alisonken1noc: it was called usbboot.img [04:47] stuart_ (~stuart@124.13.57.91) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:47] from what version? [04:47] slakware 12.1, 13.0, -current? [04:47] 13 [04:47] 64-bit release [04:48] ok - as long as it's not -current, it's considered the stable branch [04:48] stuart_ (~stuart@124.13.57.91) joined ##slackware. [04:49] There's no loadkeys command when I login as root [04:49] if you plan on using slackpkg, then make sure you uncomment the >correct< mirror - like /slackware64-13.0/ and not /slackware-13.0/ [04:50] a lot of people have found out the hard way that the slackware-32bit and slackware-64bit packages are not very interchangeable [04:51] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:51] alisonken1noc: mmm. [04:51] im not sure [04:51] there's no loadkeys command [04:51] only one named loadkmap [04:51] which I've never heard of before... [04:52] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [04:52] unless you go through alien's 32-bit compatibility setup [04:53] if you're still on the initrd, you won't have it [04:53] So the install is broken? [04:53] kbd provides it [04:53] maybe that's why the keyboard selection didn't work, no loadkeys command? [04:53] Coke: /etc/rc.d/rc.keymap [04:53] Indeed loadkmap is part of the initrd, which is not the same as running Slackware. it is a small environment for running the installer and several repair tools only [04:54] Where are the keymaps in the initrd? [04:54] And changing the keyboard works for me in the installer (I have a NL keyboard) [04:54] alienBOB: you using the 64-bit v13? [04:55] You get the opportunity to change the keymap very early during the boot of the installer image [04:55] alienBOB: yeah i know. the reason I'm talking about it now is because it does not work [04:55] and I cannot find any keymaps under /usr/share [04:56] So, how did you select your keyboard then? [04:56] In a list [04:57] In some ncurses UI [04:57] Which doesn't work. [04:57] And did you confirm your choice by typing a single "1"? [04:57] So now I'm at the initrd prompt trying to load a keymap using loadkeys [04:57] alienBOB: I tried typing, it did not work [04:57] Coke: /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty [04:57] It clearly says "Type now to try it out" [04:57] alisonken1noc: that is not part of the installer [04:57] true - I thought he had already installed [04:57] ./etc/keymaps.tar.gz [04:57] alisonken1noc: there's no kbd directory under share [04:58] Coke: are you on the installer? or did you already install to your system? [04:58] that path is on an already installed system [04:58] Coke: what layout do you need? [04:58] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:58] qwerty/se [04:58] Try the command: tar xzOf /etc/keymaps.tar.gz se | loadkmap [04:58] Is Slackware gonna be this much of a struggle after installatino too? [04:58] Coke: depends on you [04:59] Axius (~fd@92.84.26.19) joined ##slackware. [04:59] alienBOB: well, I don't want to come here every and beg for answers every time I have to do something mundane that has worked on every linux dist I've used since 1996 [04:59] YOu are the first who reports that he has issues with the keyboard layout selection [04:59] Like load a console keyboard [04:59] alienBOB: glad to help :) [04:59] So how do I load it after I'm in prompt? [04:59] IO already gave you the command to use [05:00] I think I owe it to one of the oldest (and my first) linux experiences to at least try it out for a little while before moving on to the next dist. [05:00] alienBOB: I cannot execute a tarball [05:00] ah [05:00] there [05:00] sorry [05:00] Goddammit read [05:01] Yeah, excuso [05:01] Well, it prints out two lines: ANSI-dvorak.bmap and azerty.bmap [05:01] I have no idea what happened or what those do [05:01] btw, you forgot the z :) [05:02] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [05:02] How can I which ports are open on my system? I get this message while trying to connect to my other system with ssh: ssh: connect to host port 22: Operation timed out [05:03] alienBOB: nestat -nlt [05:03] Axius: netstat -nlt [05:03] damn it [05:04] alienBOB: your command seem to have changed my keyboard to the last found in the list, it is now unusable and I have to reboot the computer [05:04] i did not find qwerty se in the keymaps.tar.gz, fwiw [05:04] trhodes: its in there [05:05] ok [05:05] Coke: Whis package do I need to install for netstat. [05:05] hallstatt_sword (~eddie@189.107.67.37) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [05:05] I cannot beleive I cannot pick a keyboard in the installer [05:05] Coke: Whis package do I need to install for netstat? [05:05] Axius: i dunno, I guess netstat [05:05] It is it's own program. [05:05] net-tools-1.60-i486-2 [05:05] Oh, guess I was wrong [05:05] net-tools-1.6.0-x86_64-2 [05:06] maybe? [05:07] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-78.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:08] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-227.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:08] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [05:08] So, anybody know how to load a keyboard map in the Slackware installer? [05:08] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [05:09] follow the prompts on the screen when it asks about which keyboard to use? [05:10] can anybody help me with this error on google earth? http://pastebin.org/114061 [05:10] it doesn't work [05:10] still [05:11] I want to connect from a server to my system with and I get this message:ssh: connect to host port 22: Operation timed out . What should I do to make it work. [05:11] I want to connect from a server to my system with ssh and I get this message:ssh: connect to host port 22: Operation timed out . What should I do to make it work? [05:12] Axius: are you on the same network as the server? [05:13] alisonken1noc: no, I'm not on the some network. [05:13] does your network allow you to get to the server? i.e., what's your IP and what's your server IP? [05:14] do a traceroute to the server [05:14] also, which version of slackware [05:14] C00re, depends on if he's outside trying to get into a natted network [05:14] yea, im just brainstorming [05:16] I'm useing server shell acount and I want to connect from that server to my home system. [05:16] how do you people go when you want to test hdd performance? [05:16] hdparm for max speed [05:16] but that only tests reading, right? [05:16] yes [05:16] not writing [05:17] dd [05:17] Coke: what exact keyboard layout did you try? [05:17] ok, i'm using dd too [05:17] Axius: unless your home system has a public IP, you have to tell your home router to do port-forwarding from outside to your home computer [05:17] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:17] There is no qwerty/se but there are several that _start_ with "se" [05:17] trhodes, but what do you write with dd in the hdd, zeros? random? [05:17] se-fi-ir209.bmap se-fi-lat6.bmap se-ir209.bmap se-lat6.bmap [05:17] And one of those craps out [05:17] alienBOB: qwerty/se-latin1 [05:17] it's in the keymaps tarball and in the list [05:17] slava_dp (~slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Read error: No route to host [05:18] zux1wrk: random is too slow, zeroes usually [05:18] or yes or tr output [05:18] ok, then i'm not doing it right [05:18] tr output? [05:19] yeah, change zeroes to ones, but there's not point to that afaik [05:19] I saw that the qwerty/se-latin1 does not seem to change anything in my layout, and after qwerty/se-lat6 my keyboard input dies completely [05:19] dd takes stdin, so it writes whatever you want [05:19] alisonken1noc: I'm useing dysdns to update my dynamic ip address. [05:20] Rossonero (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [05:20] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424744.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [05:20] Morn [05:20] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424744.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:21] adrenaline (~repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:22] Axius: ok - there may still be some issues with ssh via dyndns, so need to do some more checks with it [05:23] alienBOB: OK [05:23] Well. Thanks for your time and help! [05:24] adrenaline (~repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [05:24] Rossonero (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [05:25] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [05:25] zux1wrk: also look at dd --help output for how dd takes SIGUSR1 to output I/O stats; it's nice for HD testing [05:26] i'm having a strange issue here, i tested a 3ware raid controller with 2 200GB disks striped, and dd showed the speed to be ~125MB/s now testing with 3x80G HDD's striped and they show me ~20MB/s [05:28] have to look at the drives and how they're setup/mirrored [05:29] unless they're ssd's, the 80g may be older/slower drives [05:29] if you stripe just two of the 80G', is it faster or slower than three ? [05:29] havn't tried yet to stripe just two [05:30] older/slower still shouldn't give "that" slow results [05:30] yeah, that is unusual [05:30] and they are striped [05:30] not mirrored [05:31] i would suspect something is wrong with some of them... [05:32] i have never had 3 drives striped, maybe there are some differences if the number of drives is not a pair? [05:32] Coke (coke@c-b3bee055.1212-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left ##slackware. [05:33] maybe, i don't know how parity affects things [05:33] ok, i'll just keep testing... [05:33] the worst thing is, that on such slow speed a reasonable amount (40GB) test write takes a long time... [05:33] mrselfpwn (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-ecfljmrhymabuggl) left irc: Changing host [05:33] mrselfpwn (nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [05:33] mrselfpwn (nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Changing host [05:33] mrselfpwn (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-ecfljmrhymabuggl) joined ##slackware. [05:34] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:35] send it a few SIGUSR1's to check up on it ;) [05:35] i canceled it, it had writen 20GB with a speed of 17 MB/s [05:36] heh, worse [05:37] damn, reading shows 147 MB/s [05:40] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-227.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [05:40] If coke ever returns, thank him for finding a bug in the installer... [05:40] ok [05:40] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-146.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:44] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:47] Axius (~fd@92.84.26.19) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:48] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.90.164) joined ##slackware. [05:54] grazymax (~grazymax@host95-36-dynamic.247-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [05:56] waabimiigwan (~steven@106-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:57] Axius (~fd@92.84.26.19) joined ##slackware. [06:00] rv2733 (rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [06:01] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:03] is Zordrak here? [06:05] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [06:05] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [06:06] Syllopsium1 (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [06:08] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:09] guess not :) [06:10] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-146.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:10] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-83.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:10] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [06:11] alienBOB, coke is still on this network just not in ##slackware [06:13] Syllopsium1 (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [06:13] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [06:16] zux1wrk: supu [06:17] well, speak of the devil [06:19] Waiting for a sun engineer who was supposed to be here at 9:30 [06:20] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [06:20] SUN is dead [06:20] long live the Moon! [06:21] lol [06:21] Sun is not dead.. its- just been renames Oracle Sun [06:21] stuart_ (~stuart@124.13.57.91) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:22] this is why I have said "is dead" [06:22] engineer has just arrived in reception [06:22] im making him wait. [06:22] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.90.164) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:22] see how he likes it [06:22] after that kill him [06:23] :P [06:23] he is an enemy [06:23] AFTER he fixes the robot [06:23] gyroscope (~master@88.232.11.26) joined ##slackware. [06:23] gyroscope (~master@88.232.11.26) left irc: Changing host [06:23] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [06:24] Zordrak, the robot of backup ? [06:24] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [06:24] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.90.164) joined ##slackware. [06:25] it uses the tapes media to store data [06:25] yus [06:25] we are using HP one [06:26] lucky you [06:26] it's managed with bacula.. it works FINE ! [06:26] by* [06:27] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [06:28] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [06:31] Axius (~fd@92.84.26.19) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:34] toallin (~PIRULEX@81.37.175.216) joined ##slackware. [06:35] Hello, when the password is configured as Shared in the router, do i need to configure the shared key in any file?, I can't connect with shared key,only with open [06:39] depends on the router - is it slackware based? [06:39] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-68.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:39] alicephilippa, slackware 13 [06:39] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-83.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:39] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [06:39] slava_dp (~slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [06:40] alisonken1noc, sorry,yes,slakware 13 [06:40] tallin: is this a wireless ap router you setup on slackware 13? [06:40] damn, I can't find any program for webcam viewing that will build on -current! [06:40] this is scary! [06:40] alisonken1noc, no, its a router from my isp [06:40] guvcview failed because of libpng too [06:41] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:41] toallin: ok - then you need to find out from your isp what they mean by "shared key" v. "open" [06:42] you also probably need to verify the encryption it's using - wep, wpa1, wpa2, etc. [06:42] is wep 64bits [06:42] also, have you tried using wicd to manage your wireless network on slackware? it's also good for wired connections as well [06:43] but in Windows 7 for example,i need to configure the connection with shared key,because i dont i cant connect, i taought in slackware is the same ecause i cant connect with shared key [06:43] ok - you may have a problem with wep 64-bit then, but it's worth a try. I've found that wep is only reliable in linux when using hex keys rather than passwords/shared phrase [06:44] well, when the pass is in the router as "open",i get connected with the same pass,64 bits and hex [06:47] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-68.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:47] in the router, when i chose open or shared says WEP Authentication Mode: [06:49] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:51] toallin: tried wicd yet? if you're using slackpkg "slackpkg install wicd" [06:53] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [06:53] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-20-186.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:54] thank u alisonken1noc ,Ill try it [06:54] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [06:55] mr-S^b43 (~sven@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:57] toallin: you might even pull the wicd package from -current since it has some updates to it. [06:57] no problem since it's python [06:58] ill download the source from windows and ill mount it cant i cant download from linux,slackpkg installs from internet,wow [06:58] toallin, it's on the dvd, in extra/ [07:00] Wicd 1.5.9 is available in the /extra section of Slackware 12.2 and 1.6.2.1 is available in the /extra section of Slackware 13. However, due to a bug in 1.6.2.1, it is recommended to upgrade to 1.6.2.2. [07:00] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [07:01] correct - try looking at the -current/extra rather than the -13.0/extra [07:01] Nick change: Gr1nch_ -> Gr1nch [07:05] PIRULEX_ (~PIRULEX@2.Red-88-27-220.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [07:05] toallin (~PIRULEX@81.37.175.216) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:06] slava_dp (~slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Quit: See you later [07:07] john_dee (~id@93-81-142-52.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [07:07] Reticent1 (~reticenti@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [07:08] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:10] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-qkkmuxrehgokpqnt) joined ##slackware. [07:10] josteint (~josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [07:11] hi. from which version of Xorg did using HAL to detect hardware instead of using xorg.conf get introduced? [07:12] 1.4 iirc [07:13] 1.5 I think [07:14] 1.6 i think [07:14] me thinks 1.5 too... trying to find out with google, but still cannot seem to find. maybe i am doing a wrong search [07:14] just kidding lol [07:14] http://www.x.org/wiki/XorgHAL [07:15] mancha: thanks. so 1.4 is the correct answer [07:16] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.90.164) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:16] but 12.2 didn't use HAL and had xorg-server-1.4 [07:16] or maybe it was available but not the default [07:16] Camarade_Tux: hmm... [07:16] *sigh* [07:17] well, according to the guards upstairs and the usgsc, we had a 4.4 quake about 10 miles from here and I didn't even feel it [07:17] ok, maybe 20 miles from here [07:18] alisonken1noc: wow... where are you? [07:18] downtown los angeles [07:18] http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/ci14601172.htm <-- report [07:18] http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/shakemap/sc/shake/14601172/intensity.html <-- picture map [07:18] alisonken1noc: stop fapping -_- [07:19] alisonken1noc: i guess it is not rare to have earthquakes there. seldom experience that here in Norway [07:19] fapping, huh :) [07:19] I've been through a 7 quake a couple of times [07:19] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-76-226.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:20] hmm - that would be close to where the mother-in-law lives [07:21] better give here a call, buddy [07:21] call the wife and let her talk to her since I have to stay in the basement [07:21] Gr1nch (gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) left ##slackware. [07:21] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [07:23] josteint no problem [07:23] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-186.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [07:23] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.209.42) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:24] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-184.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:25] Axius (~fd@92.84.3.187) joined ##slackware. [07:28] ^blu^ (~blu@78.86.230.255) joined ##slackware. [07:28] blu^^ (~blu@78.86.230.255) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [07:28] Shuren (~Devilman@host137-61-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Sto andando via [07:29] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) left irc: Quit: ‚» [07:29] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:29] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [07:31] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:31] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [07:32] Shuren (~Devilman@host137-61-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:35] sec0nd_ (coolkehon@bnc2.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [07:35] So.... I can't get slackware to oboot [07:35] Coke (~coke@c-b3bee055.1212-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [07:35] *boot [07:36] Axius (~fd@92.84.3.187) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:36] Coke: alienBOB says "thank you for finding an installer bug" [07:36] Cool. [07:37] I was just about to install Gentoo using the Slackware image because they only use ISO's, when I though "fudge it! I'll just use the US keyboard and get a real UNIX-like" [07:37] heh [07:37] I don' [07:37] I run into problems when mounting the lvm [07:37] I don't understand what the deal with ISO is [07:37] Axius (~fd@92.84.3.187) joined ##slackware. [07:37] isn't gentoo a source-install system? [07:37] I can't get the server tray to open on my stupid proliant server so I cannot use the burnt DVD anyway [07:37] alisonken1noc: it's a no-install system [07:37] phrags (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [07:37] heh [07:37] hi guys! [07:37] unless you have a DVDR [07:38] did alienBOB go to lunch now? [07:38] possible [07:38] I might as well setup a bug tracker account for myself since it seems the 64-bit systems is rather new. [07:39] It's odd that the most stable system I have in my machine park right now is a rolling release dist. [07:39] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) joined ##slackware. [07:39] slackware-64 itself just became official with 13.0 - unofficially there was slamd64 which stayed with slackware philosophy and blue-white64 which diverged a couple of things from slackware [07:40] alisonken1noc: might as well try it [07:40] I think the last CD I ordered was in 1998 (slackware) [07:40] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) left irc: Quit: ‚» [07:40] I have a subscription so get the dvd's when the new release comes out [07:40] so I'm guessing there's a few new features [07:40] a couple :) one being wicd for network management [07:41] omgosh, making ext3 filesystems on 148G of partition takes forever. [07:41] alisonken1noc: perfect. another item I don't need for my server. :) [07:41] plus there's a possibility that wicd will see some development in managing bluetooth as well, but not sure about that [07:41] Sounds handy if you're using your 20lbs server as an ipod [07:41] I use wicd for my laptop, but I'm an edit text files guy myself [07:42] I hope there's not too much automagic going on in slackware these days [07:44] What download URL should I use for stable 64-bit? [07:44] I personally use the mirror at mirrors.slackware.tds.net - but that's for packages, not for iso [07:45] use a mirror, there are many [07:45] Yeah, that's packages i think [07:45] "Good we're all set on the local end, but now we need to know where to find the software packages to install" [07:45] is this a good URL? ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-13.0/ [07:45] Yeah, but I don't know where the packages actually are and how the URL's are parsed by the package manager [07:45] Every dist have their own [07:46] slackware is pretty simple in that regard [07:46] So, what URL do I write? [07:46] I'm at the prompt now, ready to type [07:46] are you trying to get the 13.0 iso? [07:46] no, packages [07:46] the setup program is prompting me for an URL [07:47] which setup program? [07:47] that comes with the boot [07:47] heh [07:47] does it matter??? [07:47] well, it may be asking for a cd url, rather than a network url [07:47] I'm guessing the URL would be the same regardless of what program is invoking the package manager [07:47] i use slackpkg with this URL http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0 [07:47] PACKAGE [07:47] oobe: THANK YOU! :) [07:47] edit /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [07:48] there are loads of mirrors to choose from just uncomment out one [07:48] http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/ <-- my slackpkg mirror [07:48] then test the speed [07:48] Yeah, but I STILL didnt know what URL to type [07:48] just make sure it's the _right_ mirror - don't uncomment a 32-bit mirror when you install a 64-bit os [07:48] what program is asking for a URL Coke [07:49] IOW - what did you type in the cli to get the installer to start? [07:49] you should prob point setup to the slackware dir within the main dir [07:49] here's the full URL I needed: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/ [07:49] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/slackware [07:50] yep [07:50] yeah, the important thing was to include the second "slackware" there [07:50] that is where the main packages reside [07:50] Unless you're an experienced slackware user that is unknown [07:50] phrags: difficult to know since there's nothing in the mirror list givint it away [07:50] it's installing now anyway [07:50] http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/slackware64 <-- that would be the one for slack64 [07:51] ubdeed [07:51] indeed [07:51] yeh, well remote install isnt usually done like that, but if its working, sweet =) [07:51] phrags: slackware64 for him [07:51] ah cool, no difference except url [07:51] i still dont know what program he is using that wants the URL [07:52] Coke: what did you type on the command line to start the installer? [07:53] setup [07:53] the recommended install (full) is 4.8G [07:53] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-184.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:54] i'v enever used a URL to install slack [07:54] is that with KDE or something? why 4.8G? [07:54] yes it is [07:54] don't need it [07:54] im guessing "menu" is my choice [07:54] so dont choose everything [07:54] phrags: it allows http install now [07:54] select your pacxkagwe set and omit kde/ kdei/ [07:54] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-158.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:55] I've found yet another bug in the installer [07:55] http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/Slackware-HOWTO - scroll down to "4.3 The SOURCE option:" [07:55] Coke: what bugs? [07:55] stuart_ (~stuart@124.13.57.91) joined ##slackware. [07:55] When I pick "menu" I get a window that says "SETUP COMPLETE" and then tells me to reboot the system [07:55] hm, how do i set the margins in vim? [07:55] phrags: bugs in the installer [07:55] first keyboard isn't selectable [07:55] and now I cannot pick what mode of installation I want [07:55] like i want a bunch of codes to be inside
(css for instance) [07:55] Let's hope the installed system is more stable than the installer [07:56] why not? so ctrl+c the setup program and run it again [07:56] and the next line onwards under
i want it to be a tab spacing, even with wordwrap, is it possible? [07:56] Coke: did you prep the hard drives with proper partitions? [07:56] the 13.0 installer is fine, no bugs that i know of... i used it twice yesterday in fact with lvm/luks [07:56] alisonken1noc: yeop [07:56] phrags: found two already today [07:56] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:56] So yeah, there are some bugs [07:56] then go through the "Add Swap" and "Add Desitination" options? [07:57] yep [07:57] Coke: and definately not PEBKAC ? [07:57] and selected the packages to install? [07:57] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [07:57] seeing as this is the first time you have installed slackware [07:57] if the installer was buggy, we would of had 100's of regulars complaining for months =P [07:57] mr-S^b43 (~sven@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:58] phrags: yes [07:58] well, he did find the installer bug about selecting keyboard layout that alienBOB is looking into [07:58] phrags: I'm a pretty savvy linux user [07:58] phrags: it is a bug [07:58] ok [07:58] it just says installation complete when I pick "menu" [07:59] what menu option? [07:59] if I pick "install" manually it jumps to "select prompting mode" and then jumps directly to "setup complete" again [07:59] ok I'm back. Basically mount /dev/linux/slack /mnt fails with no such device when /dev/linux/slack does exists and is from an encrypted lvm [07:59] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-158.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:59] and you selected your packages to install before picking "menu" ? [07:59] Coke: ^^^ [07:59] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:59] All I get is A [07:59] Base Linux System [07:59] it's checked [07:59] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-144.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:00] fudge it, I'm doing a full 4.8G install then. [08:00] stupid KDE [08:00] do I get Gnome too? [08:00] hmm - since I use a dvd, I don't have that issue [08:00] Gnome was dropped in 12.0 [08:00] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.67.167) joined ##slackware. [08:00] so how do I install then? [08:00] the only thing left is l/gtk libraries [08:01] try using GSB (Gnome Slackbuilds) - but don't be surprised if you get sporadic help here :) [08:01] if I select "full" it doesn't install anything, it just jumps to "SETUP COMPLETE" [08:01] alienBOB: more bugs in the installer! :) [08:01] Coke: dude, you obviously have a problem with your setup [08:02] phrags: yeah, the installer has bugs [08:02] phrags: alienBOB has already confirmed ONE of my reported bugs [08:02] so? [08:02] I'm 100% sure this is another bug [08:02] so when you select full install it falls over and doesn't install anything? not think that would of been fixed if it was a common bug? it's like the entire install method your suggesting is broke [08:03] Coke: trying to use a network http install? [08:03] phrags: yeah, it istalls nothing and a window pops up telling me my system is installed, configured and ready for reboot. [08:03] alisonken1noc: yeah [08:03] ok - http installs via setup are still experimental I believe [08:03] brainvision (~brainvisi@host160-40-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 269 seconds [08:03] actualy, i cannot comment on http install.. it's beta stuff, not stable [08:04] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:04] it's new and i've never used it [08:04] i doubt anyone in this channel has used it [08:04] heh [08:05] So, how do you install it if not over net? [08:05] Coke: the only official install method atm is either cd set/dvd/nfs - http/ftp is experimental [08:05] i've never needed to, dvd or nfs for me [08:05] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) joined ##slackware. [08:05] Well... doesn't seem to work at all. [08:06] holy fudge [08:06] I'm like once step away from just using ubuntu server. [08:06] so don't use it and install slack like everyone else has for years =P [08:06] gogo use ubuntu! [08:06] go-go gadget-buntu :) [08:07] phrags: because I dont have a fast connection [08:07] The whole point of having a 50-100M USB image and install over net is that you only download what you need [08:07] it's far easier to rsync to a usb or somewhere and install from there... that way, things like network errors/problems dont break your install [08:07] hello ... hopefully everyone is having a good day. I have a problem connecting Slack13 to a bluetooth handsfree -- it's a Jawbone, and doing hcitool scan results in a kernel trap. has anyone any experience with something like this ?? [08:07] phrags: the thing is, most dists have had this option for 10 years. working. [08:07] Holy shit [08:07] PIRULEX_ (~PIRULEX@2.Red-88-27-220.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [08:07] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [08:07] phrags: it's like the most popular way to install a system next to ISO (which I dont understand why anybody still use) [08:07] The 2 penguins are for the 2 cpus [08:08] MY mind it breaks [08:08] BrokenCog, not with a Jawbone [08:08] Coke: well you can mirror with excludes, which is what i do [08:08] alisonken1noc: is there any specifics on the problem ? [08:08] I'm going to try the installer one more time [08:09] so can anyone help me get slackware to boot? [08:09] BrokenCog, I've only noted bluetooth people are looking at bluetooth devices like phones or external filesystems, not with bluetooth phone mic/headset [08:09] i personally don't use bluetooth on slackware yet [08:09] phrags: now when I started the setup the screen died and I had to reboot the machine [08:10] alisonken1noc: so you're not saying that there is a Jawbone specific issue, rather that it's not being done ? [08:10] I don't think the modules are avaliable for the kernel [08:10] BrokenCog, there are people here (somewhere if you can catch them) that play with bluetooth on slackware, I'm just not one of them [08:10] blu^^ (~blu@78.86.230.255) joined ##slackware. [08:10] alisonken1noc: okay. any idea of nicks ? [08:11] alisonken1noc: or of web sites ? [08:12] Coke: is your disk/memory ok ? [08:12] also try a different URL [08:12] ^blu^ (~blu@78.86.230.255) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:13] BrokenCog, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/bluetooth-on-slackware-13-hcid-gone-wild-755667/ [08:13] phrags: yep. [08:13] issues with bluez and audio bluetooth devices (linuxquestions thread) [08:13] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [08:14] alisonken1noc: thanks. I've read through that a couple of times -- it has some tips. [08:15] phrags: if I could get the cd tray to open I could use the CD ISO installer. [08:15] but I'd still have to spend like 2 hours downloading it [08:15] brainvision (~brainvisi@80.180.183.99) joined ##slackware. [08:15] Tried the paperclip in the hole trick? [08:15] there's no such hole [08:16] also, there's not even a way that I see to remove the disks from the front panel [08:16] What is that hard disk usuage analyzer called? I think it came with Gnome? [08:17] -.- [08:17] meh [08:17] I'll just reinstall it [08:18] babai (~babai@115.187.55.245) joined ##slackware. [08:20] Still same bug [08:20] How can I install the packages manually? [08:20] I've mounted my target partitions [08:22] What packages do I need to untar to get a base system with gnutils etc? [08:23] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:25] I need suggestions on how to install Slackware if you don't have a cdr on the server [08:25] ftp/http does not work [08:26] usb [08:26] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. [08:26] thrice`: don't work [08:26] kr_eten (~quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [08:26] so, no ftp, http, pxe, usb, or optical? [08:26] thrice`: the setup exits with "SETUP COMPLETE" even though it doesnt install anything [08:26] thrice`: ftp = not working, http = not working [08:26] not working according to you? [08:26] thrice`: I'm using USB right now [08:26] zordrak i wanted to ask you why do you write in your blog that everyone should compile custom kernel [08:26] thrice`: not working = it does not install anything due to bugs [08:27] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [08:27] bugs in slackware's installer? [08:27] thrice`: yes. [08:27] you should try ubuntu [08:27] Coke, if the setup ends like that, that means you showed him the wrong place for pakages [08:27] thrice`: I cannot use Debian derivatives [08:27] or archlinux. [08:27] zux1wrk: really. [08:27] mhm [08:27] wobbles (huntsman@C-59-101-132-39.mel.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:27] i'v had it too [08:27] zux1wrk: but the installer says "found the filelist.txt" or whatever it's looking for [08:28] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [08:28] what would be the correct URL to use then? [08:28] there is this strange thing [08:28] where did you point it when it asked for packages? [08:28] yeah. [08:28] mostly, add another /slackware to the end [08:28] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [08:28] Coke: did you use the link I gave you? [08:28] but I've spent the last two hours trying to persuade any possible help that I'm not the broken thing here :) [08:28] alisonken1noc: YES [08:28] zux1wrk, it's "slackware64" [08:28] it needs to be the dir that has the package sets, eg "a, ap, d, l, .." etc [08:28] alisonken1noc: your nor mine works [08:28] ok - might be a dns resolver issue then [08:28] thrice`: yeah [08:28] Is it just me or does this have accented As everywhere? http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/story-of-mel.html [08:29] i would like to make perms 1777 in $PKG/var/log/foo, i did the chmod in the slackbuild but it seems not to be accepted by makepkg ! [08:29] alisonken1noc: nope [08:29] did you try a different URL like i suggested? [08:29] works fine in prompt [08:29] Gargantua, it's NOT just you [08:29] phrags: yep [08:29] do i have to do it in the doinst.sh instead ? [08:29] becouse there is a file pacakges.txt in there too [08:29] Coke: what's dmesg saying? [08:29] alisonken1noc, thanks [08:29] last was an USB connect because I accidently broke the USB stick in a million pieces [08:30] but it's reconnected now [08:30] my partitions are mounted on /mnt [08:30] swap is on [08:30] my source is specified [08:30] more related to any errors thrown by the installer [08:30] phrags: no [08:30] nothing [08:30] just exits with SETUP COMPLETE [08:30] Coke: with trailing slash? [08:31] what you booting from ? [08:31] alisonken1noc: I've tried both with and without the trailing slash [08:31] snL20 (~irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:31] phrags: USB [08:31] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-144.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:31] Coke the can you paste the exact path of what you specified to the installer [08:31] ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/slackware/slackware64-13.0/slackware64/ [08:32] are you trying to install from a public ftp? [08:32] ok - that's not the link I gave [08:32] I posted an html link [08:32] alisonken1noc: I tried it too [08:32] snL20 (~irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [08:32] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-147.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:33] snL20 (~irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Client Quit [08:33] alisonken1noc: now I cannot find it in my buffer [08:33] Coke, you are installing a 64-bit version and booting a 64-bit bootable, right? [08:33] snL20 (~irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [08:34] zux1wrk: yep [08:34] Coke: use this link:ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/ [08:35] nice day for all... [08:35] ok, i also had a problem when i was trying to install a 64 bit version booting a 32 bit bootable [08:37] it's, again, reading 979 packages [08:37] Ah, news. "Cannot install software yet" [08:38] 1) select your source media, 2 setup your target linux partitions, 3 select which categories to install. [08:39] at least it's showing some error now [08:39] even though I have selected source media, I have setup my target linux partitions and I never got to the point where I could select categories [08:39] same error [08:39] or "SETUP COMPLETE" after I try to select prompting mode. [08:40] Man... I really wanted to try Slackware. [08:40] sirslacker (~sirslacke@tmo-104-186.customers.d1-online.com) joined ##slackware. [08:41] sounds really strange [08:41] Yeah. [08:41] Coke, but how about install from an external hdd? [08:41] How can I install Slackware if I dont ahve a cdrom? [08:42] zux1wrk: I dont have an external HD [08:42] I have a proliant server and an USB stick [08:42] usb stick? [08:42] yes. [08:42] that's what I'm trying the setup from [08:42] how big? [08:42] like 4G [08:42] 4G is enough to hold the installation [08:43] installing from network right now... all loks good [08:43] what version? [08:43] what installer? [08:44] I'm trying the 64-bit 13.0 [08:44] 4GB is more than enough. [08:44] Yeah, 4G is too much [08:44] I want my installer to be max 200M [08:44] my installation is 1.2 GB [08:44] sirslacker (~sirslacke@tmo-104-186.customers.d1-online.com) left irc: Client Quit [08:44] you won't get 13.0 under 500MB. [08:45] thumbs: i'm talking about the installer [08:45] oh. [08:45] Coke, it can have the packages too on it [08:45] Coke: so a usb install disk, instead of a DVD? [08:45] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.73.4) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [08:45] thumbs: it doesnt work [08:46] why not? [08:46] *sigh* [08:46] Because whoever wrote the setup script missed a few things. [08:46] ok, i'll try to find a link... [08:46] Coke: such as? [08:46] thumbs: broken keyboard, does not actually download from the specified URL, does not install anything and yet ends up with "SETUP COMPLETE" dialog [08:47] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:usbboot [08:48] zux1wrk: there's already an usb image available in the mirrors [08:48] http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [08:48] Coke: really? Never had that problem [08:48] Coke: did you report it to alienBOB ? [08:48] Coke, i'm talking about an image where you have all the packages too [08:49] thumbs: yeah [08:49] he's left for now it seems [08:49] Coke: everything you report apart from the keyboard setup issue, is really your oww PEBKAC [08:49] alienBOB: how so? [08:50] If you do not read the on-screen instructions when you have to enter a HTTP or FTP location, the installer will be very unforgiving [08:50] alienBOB: I did read [08:50] alienBOB: I did exactly as instructed [08:50] first the host [08:50] then the directory [08:50] very retarded way of splitting it up, but I did read and pick up on that [08:50] I've used 3 different URL's [08:51] it does state it finds the package file [08:51] it finds 979 packages, I select "A" and then it says "SETUP COMPLETE" [08:51] without downloading or installing [08:51] Coke: you're going on ignore for being obnoxious. Install gentoo, I dont care [08:51] alienBOB: "PEBKAC" isn't exactly helpful to me [08:52] In fact, the only useful information I've gotten is "it's beta, never used it, try the ISO" [08:53] it's not beta, it's worked flawlessly for many people for a few releases now [08:53] 64-bit version? [08:53] thumbs: also, I'm just retelling what I've been told [08:54] I have no idea in what stage of development it is [08:54] Coke: since it's a bash script, the same one is used on 32-bit and 64-bit installations [08:54] I'm now at the "What is the URL of your FTP/HTTP server?" [08:54] I put in "http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net" [08:54] Coke: it works for me. [08:54] Is that correct?? [08:55] Coke: last time I did one was a long time ago, I can't recall what I used exactly [08:55] "What is the Slackware source directory?", I put in /pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/slackware- [08:55] argh. / at the end [08:56] typo in irc [08:56] is that correct too? [08:56] Have I understood the instructions on how to enter the host and directory? [08:57] if you're installing 64-bit, then the last part should be "../slackware64/" [08:57] ot os [08:57] it is [08:57] damn it, I'm having a hard time switching between US and SE keyboards [08:57] yeah it is slackware64/ and was all the times I tried [08:58] alisonken1noc: the question is, did I understand the instructions on how to fill out those two fields? [08:58] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:58] try: "http://slackware.oregonstate.edu" , and then: "/slackware64-13.0/slackware64/" [08:59] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:59] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.wpbhfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:59] thrice`: will do [09:00] look at that, I have more groups to pick from now [09:00] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [09:00] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [09:00] are you SURE you did slackware64, and not "slackware/" before? :) [09:00] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-25-120.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:01] thrice`: yes [09:01] 100% absolutely possitive [09:01] but your URL does work fine [09:01] ok :> well, is it working? [09:02] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:02] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [09:02] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-147.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:02] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [09:02] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.127.214) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:03] thrice`: seems to be [09:03] thrice`: i didn't pick any fancy items now, just went with "full" [09:03] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [09:03] that should be OK. though, you could unselect things like "kde," kdei" etc. [09:04] thrice`: i think I did unselect KDE at one place [09:04] but it's still gonna be a rather huge installation [09:04] grazymax (~grazymax@host196-36-dynamic.247-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:04] nevermind that, at least I'll be able to boot [09:04] yeah, is it a server? [09:04] yeah [09:04] Im gonna have to leave it over night [09:05] since it's going to install everything [09:05] slackware is a pretty good server or desktop OS, so it ships enough stuff to cover both. [09:05] external cd drives are less than $10 [09:05] I just want something that isn't automagic [09:05] Coke, i would have downloaded the packages earlier somewhere and then installed [09:05] im going multilib today [09:05] mancha: yeah and I'm somewhere in the world someone is giving away floppies for free [09:05] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Bye..... [09:06] zux1wrk: yeah, but I don't know exactly how to do that [09:06] and if you are going to get used to slackware, you'll probably want to keep a local mirror anyway [09:06] zux1wrk: how come? [09:06] easy installations [09:06] and fast [09:06] I only need to install once [09:06] i just installed slackware from local mirror [09:06] Coke, what about a different box? [09:07] I'm not installing Slackware to run my own mirror [09:07] I'm installing it because I want a simple Linux server that isn't cluttered with stuff. [09:07] and ona a gigabit network the full installation took me less tahn 30 min [09:07] 30 minutes?!?! [09:07] That's like 15 times longer than it takes to install archlinux [09:07] less, don't know exactly [09:07] well, 10 at least [09:08] oh well, we'll see. I'll get back here tomorrow and see how the installation is doing [09:08] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:08] What is the process of upgrading from 12->13 like? [09:09] don't do that [09:10] "FTP/HTTP DOWNLOADFAILURE\n Downloading reiserfsprogs-3.6.21-x86_64-1.txz FAILED" [09:10] 12.0 -> 13 could be a little trickier (as it's a few years apart). 12.2 -> 13.0 should be easy enough [09:10] ah [09:10] I dont know the versions that well. [09:11] anyone do the multilib support yet? [09:11] for 64bit? [09:11] I did at home, and I'm not home right now [09:11] Coke, the intelligent way to do things like that are to backup your data and reinstall a new version [09:11] couple of issues with 13.0->current, though [09:11] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-25-245.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:12] do i have to use alien's gcc packages? [09:12] though if a server i am not sure you need to be bleeding edge anyways. [09:12] wait, nvm [09:12] mancha: nah, not really [09:12] I want simple and stable, basically [09:12] simple = the opposite of complex [09:12] gcc -v spits out ---disable-multilib [09:13] yeah, really. [09:13] Cann0n: you missed the readme, didn't you? :) [09:13] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [09:13] i've read it, but it doesn't explain why. just says, "use these" [09:13] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-25-120.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:13] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [09:13] i was trying to avoid having to downlod 60MB on dialup [09:14] one of the explanations is gcc needs multil-arch compiled to work [09:14] I'm gonna hit the road, thanks for your time and help guys! [09:14] but... looks like i'm going to have to... unless i can use slack13 dvd source and just recompile with my aptions [09:15] grazymax (~grazymax@host196-36-dynamic.247-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:17] i'm not even gonna try it. 60MB is too much, pluss i'll have to re-download 32bit ati binaries which are 80MB's irrc [09:17] Coke (~coke@c-b3bee055.1212-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [09:19] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:19] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [09:20] Action: Cann0n wishes he didn't have dialup [09:21] Cann0n can yo at least get v90 or better? [09:22] The-spiki (~spiki@213.240.47.4) joined ##slackware. [09:23] arckary (axius@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-wiafrsniojfozlco) joined ##slackware. [09:23] hello [09:23] do you have ed arckary disease? [09:24] sec0nd (~second@unaffiliated/sec0nd) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:24] padhu (~Padhu@58.68.66.251) joined ##slackware. [09:24] grazymax (~grazymax@host241-153-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:24] Cann0n, you can d/l alien's slackbuild for gcc and recompile it with that :) [09:24] arckary (axius@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-wiafrsniojfozlco) left irc: Client Quit [09:24] mancha: i dunno. no documentation [09:25] Cann0n, your logs should tell you how you're connecting though. [09:25] Cann0n: i would look into what alisonken1noc said. there should be a slackbuild for gcc and a script for converting 32bit packages to be used in hte multilib setup. [09:25] ie. if linux ppp it'll log a "CONNECT" line iirc [09:25] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-23-179.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:26] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-25-245.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:26] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [09:26] mancha: mancha nope. don't see it in the log [09:27] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:27] nathanbw (~nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [09:28] CcSsNET (~user@c-98-216-179-56.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:28] if I edit the slackware slackbuilds and redistribute them (not forking, something different), how should I change the credits/copyrights? [09:29] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-68-122.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:29] Camarade_Tux: i get rid of them [09:29] XGizzmo_ (~gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:30] jumperboy (~jumperboy@gl206.websiteproject.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [09:30] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.4.212) joined ##slackware. [09:30] you remove the lisence? are you serious? [09:30] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [09:30] sec0nd (~second@c-66-31-196-138.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:30] Camarade_Tux: there is a howto on how to make the scripts. i have generic template i use [09:30] jumperboy (~jumperboy@gl206.websiteproject.net) joined ##slackware. [09:31] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:31] the license clearly states that distribution is allowed only when the copyright is kept [09:31] are you retarded? heh [09:31] I'm not going to write a hundred slackbuilds from scratch [09:31] afaiu, he meant he was doing his own instead? [09:31] the copyright can't be lost, what is requested that be kept is the notice [09:31] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:31] CygnusX1 (~CygnusX1@c-71-201-12-88.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:31] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:31] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:32] XGizzmo_ (~gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [09:32] Redistributions of this script must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. [09:32] well yeah, you can copy and paste everything from tho howto. there are also some scripts floating around that are pretty much identical [09:33] i don't hand out my sbo's either [09:33] nathanbw (~nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:33] you should keep all of that, and just add a line below, like "modified by Camarade_Tux, because I'm bored and want to learn stuff" [09:34] lol [09:34] http://nabucho.org:21010/?p=.git;a=summary <- if that's not redistributing slackbuild [09:34] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E7934.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:34] what is current us copyright law? 14 years with one possible 14 year extesion? [09:34] thrice`: well, actually there is a good reason, not only because I'm bored :P [09:34] CcSsNET (~user@c-98-216-179-56.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:35] also, it is unclear to me at what point you affix your own copyright to previously copyrighted material. i've seen pat do that on several of his scripts. [09:35] is there a magical % that you must change to warrant your own moniker up top? [09:36] mancha: life of the author plus 70 years [09:36] thanks to disney for that [09:36] nah. Gates said it's ok to slap your name on anything not yours [09:36] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:37] mancha: if the original author hands it to you and says "go for it", then pat can do that [09:37] if there are significant enought changes to warrant that it's no longer original to the first author, then it can also be copyright changed [09:37] alison, is this the case in all those cases? [09:37] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [09:38] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:38] have to talk to a lawyer to get an "opinion", but the copyright term is current and the copyright holder can do whatever he wants with his copyrighted works [09:38] well, whats the point of having it in the frist place if editing it for another program makes it yours? [09:38] even hand them over to someone else [09:38] that was my point, "significant enought" means what exactly? a hamming distance of x% of the bitstream of the ascii? :) [09:38] Cann0n, it's not just a matter of editing - you have to look at a whole bunch of things [09:38] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [09:38] hah [09:39] don't know - like I said, get a copyright lawyer for an "opinion" that may or may not hold in a court [09:39] mancha: I put my name on SlackBuilds I write. There'd be nothing wrong with copyrighting your changes. [09:39] mancha: "significant" meaning you could fill a patent for your changes? ;-) [09:40] Jiraia (~Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::5669) joined ##slackware. [09:40] it's all a bit fuzzy to me, glad you all are clear on it :) [09:40] well, I find it quite natural to put your name, for the sale [09:40] sake* of trackability [09:40] Coke (~peter@1-1-1-8a.asp.sth.bostream.se) joined ##slackware. [09:40] copyright < copyleft [09:40] by the by, minitube is very nice. [09:41] Cann0n: Yes, I agree, which is why I don't add my own copyright, but you're certainly free to. [09:41] babai (~babai@115.187.55.245) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:41] Cann0n: I don't care about the copyright rights but I think I have to put credits at least [09:41] Action: jkwood leaves for work [09:41] think I'll add a "Copyleft" line [09:41] Action: sahk0 just got back from work [09:41] no work today :P [09:41] Camarade_Tux: i don't even put the name of the scripts i write [09:41] Action: stillborn is at work [09:41] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:42] i just don't care [09:42] Cann0n: as I said, I *need* to do it [09:44] quit [09:44] oops.. [09:44] josteint (~josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:44] quitter [09:45] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:45] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:45] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:46] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [09:46] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:46] Action: phrags also at work [09:47] thieusoai (~tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) joined ##slackware. [09:48] heh lucky workers, my work day ends soon.... [09:48] jkwood: what do you do instead of adding a copyright? [09:48] thieusoai (~tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) left irc: Client Quit [09:49] he's workinmg on it [09:50] padhu (~Padhu@58.68.66.251) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [09:51] babai (~babai@115.187.55.233) joined ##slackware. [09:51] Camarade_Tux: do you use Thunar? [09:52] no, can't stand it =) [09:52] it might be for other WM's too. do you use ~/Template [09:53] i put an example slackbuild in mine, so when i right click, i have the options to Create New > slackbuild [09:53] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:53] thieusoai (~tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) joined ##slackware. [09:53] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [09:53] thats where i keep my generic script, which generally needs a few lines removed depending on if the source has docs or icons [09:54] Cann0n: I am editing the slackware slackbuilds, definitely not making new ones [09:54] for instance: http://nabucho.org:21010/?p=.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb298243b8f95f7ecd86894063d69667a194ba87 [09:54] wolven (~wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:55] that one seems overly complicated [09:56] what seems complicated? [09:56] Plasmastar (plasmastar@botters/plasmastar) left ##slackware. [09:56] i don't like the format [09:56] Plasmastar (plasmastar@botters/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [09:56] of what? [09:57] lines like [09:57] @@ -142,6 +134,5 @@ find $PKG/usr/doc -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; [09:58] that's diff's output [09:58] not the actual file [09:58] oh [09:58] a mingw32 Slackware port? [09:58] Camarade_Tux: you should do it pastebin [09:58] arent those mobile phones or something? [09:58] the actual file is here: http://tinyurl.com/y97styx [09:58] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-25-160.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:59] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-23-179.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:59] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [09:59] sahk0: nah, not a slackware port, I'm only using the slackbuilds [09:59] for instance, I'm not taking a lot of things from a/, most things don't apply [09:59] and not mingw32/mingw.org, but mingw-w64 which makes a 32bit toolchain too [10:00] (mingw.org is horrible crap with sucky upstream) [10:00] Axius (~fd@92.84.3.187) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:00] they also put broken binaries on their website, stay clear of it [10:00] oh its for windows not mobiles [10:00] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-13-251.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [10:01] desktop, yes [10:01] mayday_jay (~mayday_ja@control-console.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:01] hi Camarade_Tux [10:01] hi metrofox =) [10:03] babai (~babai@115.187.55.233) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:05] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.67.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:06] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:07] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [10:08] Axius (~fd@92.82.65.122) joined ##slackware. [10:11] SOUL_OF_R00T (~leo@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:13] btw, about using slackware's slackbuilds for mingw*, a gentoo user who wanted me to use gentoo tools for that saw my modified slackbuilds and couldn't believe how simple the slackbuilds (and the changes to them) were ;-) [10:13] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [10:14] Camarade_Tux: is it easy to crossbuild on slack? [10:14] Reaver1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [10:16] well, you need the cross-compiler and the libs, as for the slackbuild, you only need to change one line in it [10:19] the C4 robot has been replaced. [10:19] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [10:19] but netbackup 7 on slack still wont talk to the tape drive :( [10:19] it discovers it and knows its serial number... but wont do anything with it [10:19] they broke off and don't want to talk to each other anymore? =/ [10:20] im wondering if im missing a low level kernel driver for it [10:20] but its a standard HP LTO3 i cant imagfine it needs anything more than the standard kernel scsi tape driverl [10:20] about to go back to trying to read from it manually using mt-st [10:21] which is where the robot broke last time [10:21] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:21] Camarade_Tux: that sounds cool. I do some cross platform development and I have like 3 different linux in my virtualbox for building [10:24] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:24] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [10:25] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) left irc: Ping timeout: 624 seconds [10:26] allend (~allend@CPE-121-214-35-236.lnse4.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [10:27] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-27-214.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:27] nader (~nader___@84.241.19.115) joined ##slackware. [10:27] Coke: well, it has been pretty painless and it shouldn't become annoying [10:27] my scripts should work for any cross-compilation btw [10:28] Camarade_Tux: sounds very nice. I'll need to setup 32-bit qt for arm somewhere [10:28] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-25-160.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:28] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [10:29] padhu (~Padhu@58.68.66.252) joined ##slackware. [10:30] d/win 2 [10:30] -.- [10:30] screen got me again :P [10:31] CygnusX1 (~CygnusX1@c-71-201-12-88.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:31] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-181.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [10:32] I get this error when trying to install a package from source:checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables [10:32] Axius: is it from the configure script? [10:32] what do I need to install? [10:32] clean slackware install? [10:32] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-184-158.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:32] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:33] Axius: that autoconf/automake setup is trying to build a test binary somewhere I think [10:33] Axius: there should be a file named "config.log" in the directory of the sources, can you pastebin it? [10:33] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-184-158.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:34] Camarade_Tux: ok. [10:34] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:35] http://dpaste.com/172513/ [10:35] is there a way to install gnome in slackware [10:35] and what is a good file manager similar to nautilus [10:35] sec0nd: checkout dropline [10:36] Camarade_Tux: this the file http://dpaste.com/172513/ [10:36] Axius: /usr/libexec/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.3.3/cc1: error while loading shared libraries: libmpfr.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [10:36] brainvision (~brainvisi@80.180.183.99) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.1.1 [10:36] Infin1ty (~Infin1ty@bzq-84-108-141-146.cablep.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [10:37] Axius: like I said, the test binary fails build most likely because of that [10:37] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:38] I will install that package. [10:38] zux1wrk (~zux@80.232.209.244) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [10:39] also skipped gmp? [10:39] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [10:39] nader (~nader___@84.241.19.115) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:39] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [10:40] how well does dropline work in slackware 13? [10:40] would you consider it stable? [10:40] yes, i think so. [10:40] I know GSB works sickly well in Slack 13.0 :) [10:41] whats GSB [10:41] sec0nd: are you running -current? if so, you really shouldn't try the gnome* things [10:41] I still get that error checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables [10:41] gnome slackbuild [10:41] http://gnomeslackbuild.org/ [10:41] Axius: again, config.log [10:42] Axius: are you trying to compile scripts from slackbuilds.org to x86_64 [10:42] Camarade_Tux: I went to slackware 13 because slackware current's kernel broke on update and wouldn't boot my encrypted lvm :( [10:42] Axius: ? [10:42] Camarade_Tux: this is http://dpaste.com/172515/ [10:42] sahk0: no, I want to compile a newer version of lynx. [10:43] no you are not. weird log though [10:43] from source [10:43] can I have compiz in gnomeslackbuild? [10:43] sec0nd: [10:43] (ye) [10:43] s [10:43] Infin1ty (Infin1ty@bzq-84-108-141-146.cablep.bezeqint.net) left ##slackware. [10:44] ask in #gsb [10:44] compiz is part of Slackware [10:44] we don't support gsb here. [10:45] Camarade_Tux: what's the problem? [10:45] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-13-251.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [10:45] oh thanks [10:45] thanks sahk0 Camarade_Tux and chipster [10:45] sec0nd: so to #gsb and we'll answer all your qustions in there. [10:45] Axius: you gotta check the log [10:46] Axius: we need to know exactly why the compiler is failing [10:46] -.- [10:46] Axius: hopefully it's easy to read and you can do it by yourself [10:46] now, missing crt1.o which comes with glibc... [10:46] nader (~nader___@84.241.18.226) joined ##slackware. [10:46] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:46] you're missing a *lot* of things in this slackware install, did it yourself? webhost? [10:46] Axius: grep error config.ong [10:46] config.log [10:46] Axius: just send me the one line with the first error [10:47] /usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.3.3/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory [10:47] ;-) [10:47] xMDKx (mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-qkkmuxrehgokpqnt) left ##slackware. [10:47] chipster: can't join #gsb [10:47] its +r (and I'm identified already) [10:47] Camarade_Tux: was that the real output? :) [10:48] Coke: manage install? [10:48] phrags: ? [10:48] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-184-158.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:48] Coke: did you manage to install slackware after all the problems you reported. [10:48] mornin' phragginz [10:48] phrags: I went home for the day. [10:48] hey acidchild ! =) [10:48] I'll try again tomorrow. [10:48] long time man [10:48] Coke: as I said, lots of things seem to be missing [10:48] my 'rents are flying over the pond atm [10:49] Coke: configure:1659: error: C compiler cannot create executables [10:49] i'm at work in new job! =) [10:49] acidchild: you not coming? [10:49] Axius: I need the line before that. [10:49] nar, they are comming to sunny canada ;D [10:49] whats the new job like? [10:49] phrags: I got it working with the last link, I'm not really sure if it was error behind keyboard or something else. [10:50] phrags: but I aborted the installation in favor of going home [10:50] Whatever it was it got me on alienBOB's B-list rather quickly. :) [10:50] Guest53417 (old-times@slave.gulug.com.br) left irc: [10:51] nader (~nader___@84.241.18.226) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [10:51] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [10:51] Gulug (old-times@slave.gulug.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:52] eelriver (~eelriver@c-24-130-112-52.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [10:52] Coke: just short-tempered and grumpy in general; nothing special [10:52] -.- [10:52] alienBOB: if you have a possible fix for the keyboard thingie I'll be happy to try it out [10:52] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-22-211.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:52] alienBOB: I'll just mount my usb image and overwrite the old setup script [10:52] I may end up fresh installing slackware again just to remove kde [10:52] is there an easier way to remove everything kde? [10:53] yeah, not install it [10:53] -.- [10:53] so fresh install it is [10:53] Axius: do you have that other error line I need? [10:54] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Client Quit [10:55] it's missing crt1.o which comes from glibc, which makes me think there will be many more missing packages [10:55] Coke: ha, oh well =P [10:55] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [10:55] i've just synced current on a 4mbit in about an hour or so [10:55] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-27-214.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:55] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [10:56] phrags: I have < 1mbit [10:56] Blue-Slacker (~5b63c537@gateway/web/freenode/x-uoxwzkyeisildxpt) joined ##slackware. [10:57] Coke: I reported the keymap issue so that will likely be fixed soon. In the meantime avoid "se" keymappings... [10:57] Coke: could always buy the slackware cd's from the store =) [10:57] phrags: no. :( my sever has no cdrom [10:57] haha, or use your libery. [10:57] libary* [10:58] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [10:58] doh [10:59] phrags: hence the USB image boot. but I'll get there eventually. [11:00] What would be nice though is a default installer which just boots the usb and installs the base packages you need to boot from disk and install more packages. [11:00] like a bare minimum. [11:00] it's called a/, ap/, l/, n/ [11:00] isnt that like a live distro.. slax? [11:00] phrags: no, live distros have a purpose, this would only be like a bootstrap disk [11:01] i don't exactly see the need [11:01] phrags: nor do i [11:01] phrags: you wouldn't need a fancy installer. [11:01] Coke: do like alisonken1home said and install just the base package sets [11:01] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-26-175.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:02] as releases are made rarely, therefore most people who use slack will have a disk/usb/repo somewhere that they use.. and creating a small custom image from those is easy enough excluding package sets... i really don't see the need [11:02] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:02] slack was never meant to be 'too easy'... us slackers would get bored =P [11:02] zaltekk: that's not exactly compact. :) [11:03] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-22-211.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:03] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [11:03] Coke: then cut it down to a, n, and l [11:03] I boot on usb and use my external hard drive which has an rsync repo (several actually) [11:03] and you can drop the kernel source [11:03] do the letters stand for anything? [11:04] see the 'required' and 'recommended' in interactive install? just install the required if you want [11:04] plus, you can select(or use tags) for the sets and not include the entire thing [11:04] phrags: huge list to go through [11:04] Blue-Slacker (~5b63c537@gateway/web/freenode/x-uoxwzkyeisildxpt) left irc: Quit: Page closed [11:04] and use slackpkg to install the extra packages you want [11:04] Coke: well the time you've spent moaning about it in this channel, you could of installed 3 times over =P [11:05] lol [11:05] phrags: no, because it wouldn't let me go on [11:05] can't let linux scare ya [11:05] (the installer) [11:05] perhaps slack isnt the right distro for your needs right now then [11:06] phrags: because the installer doesn't fit my need? [11:06] if you have enough room on your usb thumbdrive, you can copy those sets to the thumbdrive and install from there - just keep the directory structure slackware/* [11:06] Coke: the installer does fit you need. [11:06] it depends, I'd like a dist <500M as a base that let me add what I need as I need it [11:06] *your [11:06] zaltekk: only I couldn't get through it earlier today [11:07] Coke: that doesn't mean it can't do what you need. [11:07] zaltekk: no, i was just responding to phrags [11:07] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:08] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:11] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:14] alvan (~galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [11:18] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:18] ken, you feel the earthquake ? [11:19] looks like you did feel it by the look of the backscroll [11:21] actually, I didn't since I was in the basement at the garland noc, but the tech support team at our Aon building (aout 10 blocks away) felt it since they were on the 50th floor [11:21] oh [11:21] that aon building is the biggest building in L [11:21] LA [11:22] i'm beginning to think your company is doing credit card fraud and not 2.99/month hosting! [11:22] OddtheCat (ol_slacker@173-9-254-103-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] Nick change: alvan -> ALVAN [11:22] well, it's $5.99 last I heard, but the $2.99 hosting I believe is a promotional pricing. And no, we don't _own_ the building, we just lease a suite on the 50th floor [11:23] yea i know you dont own it :) [11:23] i think the 30th floor would be my vertical limit lol [11:23] after that you may catch me blowing chunks [11:23] actually, there's a very nice view of LA from the 50th floor :) [11:24] alisonken1home: i have a window facing a worn down parkinglot outside a refugee facility [11:25] lol [11:25] alisonken1home, we've got some nice views of everything from Gdale. [11:25] at least you have windows - where my desk is, the only windows I have face the server racks in sub-basement1 level [11:25] alisonken1home, think of it this way... if you fart near the servers, it should be cycled out pretty fast. right ? [11:25] you can't blame it on the servers though [11:25] or can you [11:26] jeev: remember, recirculating air conditioning to keep costs of freezing the room below 60degrees :) [11:26] perfect [11:26] farts tend to hang around a lot longer in the server room [11:26] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:27] alisonken1home, if you happen to ever pick one up in a LA datacenter except for yours, i was there [11:27] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:27] that's me marking my territory [11:27] heh [11:27] terry_ (~terry@74.113.242.6) joined ##slackware. [11:27] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:29] LardAndSavior (~189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-ewtrghdlcsazvyzp) joined ##slackware. [11:30] slava_dp (~slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. 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[11:37] alisonken1home: I wouldn't mind 2.99/month ;-) [11:38] LardAndSavior (~189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-ewtrghdlcsazvyzp) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:38] because the RaLink RT2860 is broken in recent kernel versions [11:38] wireless chip* [11:38] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [11:38] what's the prob? [11:38] Why I get this msg when I run a command with sudo? :zsh: command not found: sudo [11:38] it doesnt work with wpa/wpa2 [11:39] Camarade_Tux, you wouldn't mind a male hooker either [11:39] sahk0: I solved your issue last weekend [11:39] LardAndSavior (~189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-comqenzccujamtwx) joined ##slackware. [11:39] Axius: `which sudo` [11:39] jeev: need money? [11:39] alienBOB: how? [11:39] sudo init 6 [11:40] Blacklist rt2800 so that the *other* driver, rt2860sta, can load [11:40] For my eeepc 1000h the rt2800 driver (new in the -current kernel) does not work [11:40] Action: nachox bows [11:40] ah nice, thanks. im gonna try it later. its been bugging me for days [11:41] The rt2860sta driver has been in "staging" for over a year, but is very stable [11:41] Axius: he wants you to run the command "which sudo" [11:41] Zordrak: every command I try to run as sudo it give me this error:zsh: command not found: sudo [11:41] sahk0: it had bugging *me* for days because I had no idea we now have two drivers for that card... until I ran "lspci -v" out of desperation [11:41] Axius: that will reveal the path to your sudo binary [11:41] Camarade_Tux, no thanks [11:42] Axius: and then paste the output back here in the channel (should be just one line) [11:42] /usr/bin/sudo [11:42] Woot! grep multibyte fixes in git \o/ [11:42] "type -a" is a nice sudo replacement. [11:43] s/sudo/which/ [11:43] pprkut: really? \o/ link? [11:43] Axius: you are not mixing 32-bit and 64-bit packages on your computer are you? [11:43] Camarade_Tux: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=grep.git;a=summary [11:43] alienBOB: I dont think so. [11:44] Axius: file $(which sudo) [11:44] What Camarade_Tux said ;-) [11:44] Axius: to find out for sure, answer these questions 1) are you running 32 or 64 bit system, 2) what does the command "file /usr/bin/nano" say? [11:44] that error message is probably the least informative ever [11:44] I ran into it this morning /o\ [11:44] Axius: arghs... "file /usr/bin/sudo" [11:44] Camarade_Tux: and the bugreport has been closed as well, with mentioning that there are more fixes in the queue to speed it up further :) [11:44] actually, that doesn't seem to work [11:45] mmmm Coke [11:45] alienBOB: do you remember with which kernel version that started to happen? was it .33 or the previous .32 ones? [11:46] Axius: to use file on /usr/bin/sudo you have to be root [11:46] Axius: try su - and type your root password [11:46] When I run "which sudo" as normal user it doesn't show anything. [11:46] oh nothing? [11:46] Has anyone ever heard (ever) of a U320 device that doesnt work on a U160 controller? [11:46] Axius: that explains it [11:47] Coke: good catch, but why not 'sudo file $(which sudo)' ? xD [11:47] install the sudo package? [11:47] sudo should be non-readable by user so it sort of makes sense [11:47] ls -l /usr/bin/sudo [11:47] Axius: that command should show permissions like ---s--x--x [11:48] [ installed ] - sudo-1.6.8p12-i486-1 [11:48] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [11:48] Axius: are you on 32 or 64 bit system? did you already say? [11:48] Camarade_Tux: I've already started drinking, it's not going to get better from here. [11:49] I thinks I'm on 32bit system. [11:49] -rws--x--x 1 root bin 90400 Feb 6 2006 /usr/bin/sudo [11:49] Coke: heh, not even 6pm yet ;-) [11:49] Axius: managed to run file on it? [11:49] sahk0: I think the .33 kernel was the first. [11:49] Axius: just try typing (as normal user) /usr/bin/sudo -s [11:50] Gulug: no, it's not even 5pm here yet [11:50] Camarade_Tux: ^^ [11:50] alienBOB: ok muchas gracias:) [11:50] bbl [11:50] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:50] Axius: what version of Slackware is that? [11:51] Pretty ancient I think [11:51] alienBOB: Slackware 13.0 [11:51] Nope [11:51] Coke: what you drikin :P [11:51] does anyone know why Pat sticks with older berk-db versions? [11:52] Coke: in sweden? I thought there was a time difference between Sweden and France (or is it the DST? I heard there was a switch last week-end but couldn't notice anything) [11:52] Sorry... yes [11:54] LardAndSavior: Jameson [11:54] Camarade_Tux: I've left time management completely to ntpdate [11:54] I have no idea when or how the DST thing works any more. [11:55] stupid question here but do I need to setup an environment to build packages from the source directory using pat's scripts ? I am having weird issues trying to build php it bombs on the alpine libary builds and I am sure I have complete slack 13 x86 source [11:55] Coke: I ran that command and I get this output :zsh: no such file or directory: /usr/bin/sudo [11:55] padhu (~Padhu@58.68.66.252) left irc: Quit: bye..... [11:55] as normal user. [11:55] Axius: are you absolutely 100% certain? [11:55] madbear (~dude@c83-253-60-113.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:56] Coke: yes [11:56] Axius: ls -ld /usr/bin [11:56] Axius, paste: "uname -m" and "file /usr/bin/sudo" [11:56] actually, don't because we actually ls'ed the file [11:57] Axius: you have to be root to use the file command on sudo [11:57] thrice`: i386 [11:57] thrice`: whats the latest version? [11:57] su - [11:57] LardAndSavior, sorry? [11:57] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [11:57] Coke: well, I didn't know if all my electronic devices had properly applied the DST or if none had, actually, I still don't know ;-) [11:58] berkdb [11:58] thrice`: as normal user I get this /usr/bin/sudo: cannot open `/usr/bin/sudo' (No such file or directory) [11:58] Camarade_Tux: may I recommend that you open a terminal on your device and run ntpdate :) [11:58] (it works on my n900 ;) ) [11:59] thrice`: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bdb/berkeley-db/trunk/changes [11:59] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-kuftmabvcmrcvmlm) joined ##slackware. [11:59] they've released a few major versions, 4.5, 4.6, 4.7, and now 4.8 (with minor goodies in-between). Pat has stuck to 4.2 and 4.4 for awhile [11:59] thrice`: as root I get this /usr/bin/sudo: setuid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV) dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [11:59] Looks correct to me for a 32-bit machine [12:00] wow, that's bizarre [12:00] Coke: I know everything is correct, what I dodn't know if DST happened last weekend ;-) [12:00] Axius: like I said, you cannot read the sudo binary as normal user [12:00] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424744.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [12:00] [ Error reading /usr/bin/sudo: Permission denied ] [12:00] Axius: let's go crazy, fire up bash and try sudo there [12:00] /usr/bin/sudo: setuid executable, regular file, no read permission [12:00] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424744.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:00] yes, that's right. [12:01] thrice`: the read error is in order i think, the execution thing is weird [12:01] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:01] Axius: let's try executing it from bash, maybe we can isolate the problem. [12:02] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-24-180.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:02] Coke: chsh: unknown user [12:03] chsh? [12:03] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:03] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [12:03] thrice`: is it something to do with compatibility with python still? [12:03] Axius: chsh doesnt know your user [12:04] Axius, run "bash" [12:04] how did you create your user account? [12:04] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-27-173.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:04] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [12:04] thrice`: and maybe subversion still? [12:04] useradd username [12:04] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:04] LardAndSavior, no :) [12:05] Axius: and you tried just typing "bash" ? [12:05] should have used adduser [12:05] it seems everyone else updates db quite regularly [12:05] Axius: useradd requires a bit of manual work, iirc [12:06] Axius: as a quicky, try adding another user using the "adduser" command. [12:06] Coke: it change to bash. [12:06] Axius: ok [12:06] cool [12:06] Now run sudo [12:06] bash: sudo: command not found [12:07] Axius, recreate your user with "adduser", and you'll be fine. [12:07] Axius: run adduser and login with that new user [12:07] read the prompts carefully, esp. group membership [12:07] ok. [12:07] 2.6.32.10 and 2.6.33.1 are out [12:08] Action: slava_dp is running 2.6.32.10 already [12:08] haha ur not bleeding edge [12:08] don't like .33 [12:08] CcSsNET (~user@c-98-216-179-56.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:08] i'm bleeding .32 :) [12:08] im .32.0 :D [12:08] The-spiki (~spiki@213.240.47.4) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:09] thank you. [12:09] The-spiki (~spiki@213.240.47.4) joined ##slackware. [12:10] Camarade_Tux, well, the current home page is $8.95/mo for webhost only - since I'm not in sales, not sure of the promo setups without digging [12:10] Axius: does that mean it works now? :) [12:11] alisonken1home: I guess I wouldn't be able to have it anyway since I wouldn't be a new customer [12:11] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.127.214) joined ##slackware. [12:11] The-spiki (~spiki@213.240.47.4) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:11] guax@trantor:~$ uname -r | 2.6.33-smp [12:11] Action: guax lives dangerously [12:11] Camarade_Tux, heh :) [12:11] kr_eten (~quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:11] 2.6.noname here :-) [12:11] Coke: no, it does not work:/usr/bin/sudo: cannot open `/usr/bin/sudo' (No such file or directory) [12:11] alisonken1home: I wouldn't mind a dedi for free however :P [12:11] hah [12:12] I had to get a graveyard job in the noc to get that :) [12:12] yht (~Yudha_HT@114.123.56.230) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:12] Axius, install sudo, then configure it, then use it [12:12] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:12] Axius: even for the new user? 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[12:34] Hi, I installed slackware and am using KDE with current. Has anyone had any problem with intel graphics and windows twitching badly? [12:34] for instance when scrolling [12:35] which is better droplinegnome or gnomeslackbuild? [12:36] ronald, yes, and there are some regression issues with intel driver 2.10 [12:36] admboom: thanks. should I revert to an older one and if so which? [12:36] i have not had any luck with that question yet. I tried 2.8 of 13 but symbols do not match [12:36] gnomeslackbuild tries to _not_ arbitrarily recompile slackware packages (i.e., minimalistic changes to slackware), but dropline gnome is known to recompile packages for percieved speed incrases [12:37] ok [12:37] admboom, use the same repository as what you're synced to, but install the 2.7x drivers from extra/ [12:38] alisonken1home: thanks [12:38] alisonken1home, I will give that a whirl, ty [12:38] np [12:40] how long would you say gnomeslackbuild takes to download and compile with a decent inet connection and a pretty decent cpu (dual core/2.0GHz each) [12:40] alisonken1home: did you mean 2.6x ? [12:40] alisonken1home: * i mean.. will the 2.8x work from there? [12:41] xf86-video-intel-2.7.1-i486-2.txz [12:41] thanks a lot [12:41] I had an issue with the 2.8. driver [12:41] ahh [12:41] hp laptop [12:42] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:42] I'm on a toshiba netbook [12:42] from cli - uninstall the xf86-video-intel driver currently installed, then install the above driver [12:42] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [12:42] got ya [12:42] IOW - drop to runlevel 3 [12:42] ;)) [12:42] will do [12:43] you'd be surprised how many people forget that step :) [12:43] not something i could see as a possibility to forget hehe [12:43] okay, thanks [12:44] good luck [12:44] ronald (~ronald@c-98-230-230-176.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving X. ty [12:45] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-26-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:46] alisonken1home, I get the same symbol resVgaShared undefined on 2.6 and 2.8 [12:47] admboom, what version of slackware? [12:47] phrags (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:47] alisonken1home, -current [12:47] lsmod | grep intel [12:48] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.37) joined ##slackware. [12:48] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-28-58.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:48] alisonken1home, aye, there she is. intel_agp [12:49] hmm - 32-bit or 64-bit? [12:49] i see that gnomeslackbuild is install some stuff that I could have gotten with sbopkg. Will this interfere with sbopkg or anything else for that matter? [12:49] O.o [12:50] 64 bit [12:50] sec0nd, shoudln't since you have to explicitly call an sbo and it doesn't do dependency pullins [12:50] admboom, ok - might want to document and email pat - btw, didi you try the 2.7 driver? [12:50] Nick change: mfreenet -> mikee [12:50] alisonken1home: but what if I accidentally install something with sbopkg that gnomeslackbuild has already installed? [12:51] sec0nd, something to watch out for :) [12:51] xsamurai (~fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [12:51] :-| [12:51] remember - slackware doesn't hold your hand [12:51] alisonken1home, right on, i went backwards 2.8, 2.7 then 2.6. I will do it again to repeat and document. this is on a msi L1300 [12:51] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210106031.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:51] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210106031.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Changing host [12:51] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [12:51] I know, just wondering [12:51] mk [12:51] hi sahko [12:51] __marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [12:52] alisonken1home: so what would happen if I did? [12:52] Nick change: __marc` -> _marc` [12:52] would I break something?... What happens when you have different versions of a shared library installed? [12:52] depends on how different the sbo slackbuild is compared to the gnomeslackbuild [12:53] unless there's softlinks that get replaced and hose the original library, shouldn't be too much of an issue [12:53] but like I said - gnomeslackbuild is unsupported here, so you would probably want to talk to the gsb guys [12:54] I can't get into #gsb [12:54] why not? [12:54] it has +r and even though I'm registered / identified it won't let me join [12:54] banned? [12:54] oh [12:54] nvm [12:54] it just worked [12:54] hmmm - lets me in [12:54] didn't work earlier -.- [12:54] duh [12:54] and I see BP{k} there too [12:54] heh [12:54] sec0nd: did you /msg nickserv identify password? [12:54] yep [12:55] heh [12:55] can't send message to channel [12:55] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:55] Jiraia_ (~Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::5669) joined ##slackware. [12:55] sec0nd: did you /msg nickserv identify password? 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[13:04] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [13:04] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.127.214) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:05] LardAndSavior: mhm [13:06] keep the riffraff like you out [13:07] oxiredo_ro (~dorin_ro@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [13:07] oxiredo_ro (~dorin_ro@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Client Quit [13:07] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [13:08] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [13:08] are there any livecd distros for media/tv boxes [13:08] gotta have tv capture... [13:08] or at least viewing heh [13:10] -.- [13:10] should I use cpan or sbopkg to install perl modules? [13:10] I usually use cpan but I see sbopkg has some [13:11] cpan [13:11] why not sbopkg? [13:12] because cpan will update the modules whenever you want, not whenever a new slackbuild is uploaded [13:12] plus you will end up doing half with cpan and half with sbopkg no doubt [13:14] raendeer (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:14] ahaha slackware logo ripoff [13:14] http://www.mcnlive.org/ [13:15] http://distrowatch.com/images/icon-large/mcnlive.png [13:16] how can I chown everything in my home dir, including hidden dirs? when I chown user -R *, it ignores those, which is causing issues [13:16] chown /home/me/ -R ? [13:17] how good is slapt-get [13:17] sec0nd: bad, don't use it [13:17] or /.* if you want to get the hidden files that were missed [13:17] raendeer: why not? [13:17] LardAndSavior: doing that chowns the entire disk [13:17] /home/me/.* [13:18] obvious? [13:18] careful with that [13:18] sec0nd: it has the potential to harm your system, not as good as building packages [13:18] LardAndSavior: that includes . which includes . which gets the whole disk [13:18] LardAndSavior, what you just said could hose the system [13:18] ok [13:18] s/could/will [13:18] so now chown -R goes up directories? [13:19] .* includes ".." [13:19] er, yeah, meant .., not ., sorry [13:19] LardAndSavior: I know from trying and bailing right away [13:19] no! [13:19] .. is bad, .* is the same [13:20] chown -R me:users /home/me/ is proper [13:20] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-25-10.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:20] and his first command chown -R blah:blah * would follow . and .. too [13:20] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-28-58.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:20] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [13:21] LardAndSavior: no, * ignores all with a . [13:22] so how do you do . files and only . files in a directory [13:22] like .blah .blahblah .blahblahblah without making it "hose the entire drive" [13:22] LardAndSavior: yeah was kinda wondering about that [13:22] is there an easy way to remove entire package sets? [13:23] LardAndSavior: looks like -R /home/user/ worked [13:23] LardAndSavior, you're wrong, it doesn't [13:23] zaltekk: get a listing of the pkg's in that set from the mirror and removepkg them [13:23] LardAndSavior: so that's a no. [13:23] all's well now, looks like [13:23] just make a text file with each package name from that ftp directory, and use a bash thing [13:24] you can install them by set name, but have to uninstall them package by pacakge... [13:24] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:24] g6okia (~g6okia@a85-139-203-86.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:24] helo ppl [13:24] helo [13:24] I'm used to my systems which only have my users and root, so I'm lazy and chown a+rw everything, but I can't do that with this other system [13:24] biberao (~jdean@unaffiliated/biberao) joined ##slackware. [13:24] hiii [13:24] grep slackware/ap/ /var/log/packages/* | cut -d/ -f 5 | cut -d: -f1 [13:24] oops [13:24] wrong channel [13:24] sorry [13:24] biberao (jdean@unaffiliated/biberao) left ##slackware. [13:24] will give you a list of what you installed from ap, eg [13:25] cryptic0 (~82129eeb@gateway/web/freenode/x-amqlczbokvvqabap) joined ##slackware. [13:26] indeed [13:26] the wpa_supplicant keeps on trying to connect a network other than the one I have asked it to. Any particular reason why this happens? [13:26] thanks for your half-ass confirmation. by the way, unless you know what you are talking about LardAndSavior, it's best not to say anything. as noted above, you can damage people's systems [13:27] help me here if you can pls: I have this usbboot and i want to install slackware but i have no slackpkgs here. how do i install slackware? [13:27] thrice`: thank god you are here [13:27] thank god someone with a brain was, indeed [13:27] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:28] g6okia, well, the install supports http,ftp,pxe,nfs, a local location you can mount, an external drive you can mount - you choose :) [13:28] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) joined ##slackware. [13:28] anyone? [13:28] thrice`: you are a very nice person [13:29] good evening folks. anyone here using bluetooth under Slack13 ? [13:29] The-spiki (~spiki@static-169-9.adsl.net.yu) joined ##slackware. [13:30] pretty sure raendeer thanked me anyway.. [13:30] snL20 (~irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:30] snL20 (~irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [13:31] LardAndSavior: one command worked, but I knew to not do the other :) I should have tried just /home/user/ anyway, so yeah, that was good [13:31] dude, you gave a command that would mindlessly blow away all permissions on his / partition [13:31] thrice`: right, so i download the ISO mount -o loop to /device, cp -R * /newpartition and how i start installation process? [13:31] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [13:31] though I'm surprised it wasn't chown'd anyway.. unless that's not my issue so meh [13:32] good evening folks. anyone here using bluetooth under Slack13 ? [13:32] raendeer: did the files come from another install...you have a /home/ partition, and maybe the user id changed from 1000 to 1001 or something [13:32] g6okia, you're not using the usb installer? 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[13:37] cryptic0: have you edited /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf ? [13:37] BrokenCog: yes, I have [13:38] it keeps on trying other networks. [13:38] but never tries the one that is configured in the conf file [13:38] The-spiki (~spiki@static-169-9.adsl.net.yu) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:38] cryptic0: use wicd [13:38] cryptic0: have you double checked rc.inet1.conf and rc.wireless.conf to ensure they aren't overriding wpa_supp.conf ? [13:38] The-spiki (~spiki@static-169-9.adsl.net.yu) joined ##slackware. [13:39] I explicitly run wpa_supplicant through a script [13:39] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [13:39] Nick change: raph0x88_ -> raph0x88 [13:40] so there should be no overriding involved. [13:40] Axius (~fd@92.82.64.147) joined ##slackware. [13:41] so I would like PAM in slackware is that possible? [13:41] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:41] SiegeX (219@unaffiliated/siegex) joined ##slackware. [13:41] cryptic0: start from square one -- ensure wpa_suppliicant is not running, then try to bring up the connect without using the script -- it sounds like somewhere along the way the SSID is changing. [13:41] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:41] *connection [13:41] xsamurai (~fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [13:42] nader (~nader___@84.241.19.65) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:43] nader (~nader___@79.132.200.133) joined ##slackware. [13:44] BrokenCog: my script is very simple. It just brings up wlan0 and then invokes wpa_supplicant. and once connected uses dhcpcd to get an ip address. [13:44] cryptic0: okay. 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[13:58] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) joined ##slackware. [13:59] doubt it [13:59] can huge.s not boot from an lvm? [13:59] i thought it would be a requirement of any "HTPC" distro........ [13:59] nille_ (1000@c-83-233-249-34.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:59] slackware is my htpc distro [14:00] got mythtv on it [14:00] when did slackware become a htpc distro [14:00] and mythtv does tv input as a main feature right? [14:00] i thought it was only for pr0n ? [14:00] it doesnt seem like any of the mythtv live cd distros even take tv-in into account [14:01] cryptic0: lost link, are you still here ? [14:01] anyone? [14:01] i need to know if this is my problem or not [14:02] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:02] zaltekk: http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-13.0/README_LVM.TXT ? [14:03] zaltekk: need an initrd ? [14:03] LardAndSavior: that is what i am thinking [14:03] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.194.39) joined ##slackware. [14:04] zaltekk: their initrd command only loads ext3 though....no lvm stuff...... [14:05] Silvie (dynamic@41.236.13.174) joined ##slackware. [14:06] thus i guess no fs module is your issue :D [14:06] LardAndSavior: that doesn't make sense [14:06] if i used the same fs without lvm, it would boot without an initrd [14:06] viper1000 (~ronald@c-98-230-230-176.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:07] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:07] LardAndSavior: ah, the -L at the end adds lvm support. [14:07] ah [14:08] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [14:08] looks like i just need to boot off the dvd again and fix that [14:08] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Client Quit [14:08] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [14:08] cool [14:09] Hi, this is Ronald again. I installed the xf86-video-intel-2.7.x and 2.8.x and both give a very skewed screen and I am even unable to kill X. I have to restart the computer. 2.10 works though has the twitching problem. I am using KMS built into the kernel and no xorg.conf. I know people say that 2.7.2 is supposed to work from extra though it also gives the skewed screen. [14:10] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-13-251.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [14:10] stuart_ (~stuart@124.13.57.91) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:10] viper1000, -current 64? 2.6.33? [14:11] -current with kernel recompiled using the one from kernel.org [14:11] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:11] x86 [14:12] viper1000: x86_64? [14:12] I'm now in X with 2.10 though I know it will start to glitch again. admboom did you try the 2.7 from extra yet and if so did it work? [14:12] viper1000: uname -p [14:12] metrofox: i'm not using x86_64 [14:13] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [14:13] viper1000, I did not have any luck with 2.6 2.7 or 2.8 out of /extra [14:13] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:13] metrofox: it's an intel atom proc [14:14] viper1000, went back to 2.10, which gives me the funky artifacts and buffer hangs periodically [14:14] okay [14:14] viper1000, metrofox mine is an atom, pinetrail _64 [14:14] nader (~nader___@79.132.200.133) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:15] interestingly a friend of mine is using enlightenment with -current and it hasn't given him any problem. [14:15] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:16] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:16] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[15:37] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-76-226.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:37] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-26-244.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:39] Nick change: Reticent1 -> Reticenti [15:39] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-24-239.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:39] Reticenti (~reticenti@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) left irc: Changing host [15:39] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [15:40] how do I stop wicd from starting on startup. I disabled the rc.wicd file (chmod -x) but evertime I start wicd-client complains about there not being a wicd pid (because it wasn't started) [15:42] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-26-199.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:44] the rc.wicd starts the daemon - wicd-client tries to talk to the wicd daemon. [15:45] the question then is "do you plan on using wicd at anytime?" [15:45] if not, then removepkg wicd should do it [15:45] Gulug (old-times@slave.gulug.com.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:46] Gulug (old-times@slave.gulug.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:48] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:49] has anyone here attempted to run Xen with Slackware as dom0? [15:49] it seems i need grub to be able to boot [15:50] today was released an upgrade for emacs... but in the ftp tree i found only the x86_64 release... is that a mistake? [15:50] err... my mistake or patrick one? [15:50] it's probably still uploading. such bloat takes awhile, you know [15:51] Shuren: yeah. 32bit -current has a 64bit package. It has already been reported. [15:51] or, still compiling [15:51] thrice`: nah, that's why there was three days between emacs update and the last -current update. ;) [15:51] oh, right :P [15:51] well, thank's :) [15:52] Shuren: it's a subtle signal one shouldn't be using emacs ;) [15:52] LardAndSavior (~189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-comqenzccujamtwx) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:52] The problem is, emacs fights back against being compiled. It's gotten so big even the source code is self-aware. [15:52] jkwood: :) [15:52] emacs compiles itself [15:52] emacs has a build-time dep on emacs? [15:53] emacs bootstraps itself? [15:53] emacs killed chuck norris [15:53] BP{k}, gh, yes... i don't use it, but i like have current all packages installed [15:53] mancha, lol [15:53] its not only recursive, its rentrant and polymorphic [15:53] Shuren: yeah, just joking, I do the same [although I am using x86_64 for my -current instal. [15:54] NaCl: Absolutely. It's assumed that emacs is installed, given that it's too heavy for most package management tools to remove. [15:54] emacs isn't upgraded, it mutates [15:54] jkwood: sounds like gcc [15:54] maybe i will 64 bit... when i don't known, but i will [15:55] emacs doesn't change its own code, it just alters the hardware it runs on [15:55] O.o [15:55] vim > emacs [15:55] you don't learn how to use emacs, it trains you to obey [15:56] jkwood: especially on debian based systems, where the number of emacs packages is close to infinity [15:56] when did emacs reach Chuck Norris status? [15:57] chuck norris stands for good, emacs acts on its own behalf [15:58] emacs is biding its time util the human population is able to sustain its hunger for human flesh. [15:58] even if you turn your machine off, emacs is still running [15:58] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:58] I heard that someone got a machine to boot into emacs once [15:59] if you unplug your cat5, rip out all your wireless nics, irc-over-emacs still works [15:59] can emacs run bash? [15:59] vim can [15:59] In the meantime, it eats lost packets and socks. And quantum holes through space. [15:59] at least emacs provides its own psychological support [15:59] in case it runs you down, just talk to its therapist [16:01] http://xkcd.com/378/ [16:02] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-26-199.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:02] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-23-163.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:02] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [16:03] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:03] haha, nice [16:05] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [16:05] Axius (~hi@92.82.64.147) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:07] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:07] Nick change: nachox_ -> nachox [16:07] alisonken1home: I'm going to need wicd-client for xfce [16:07] but thats all I need it for [16:08] ? [16:08] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [16:08] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:08] can someone comment on the difficulty of getting grub to work with slackware? is it as easy as building it, making a configuration file, and running grub-install? [16:09] yes that easy [16:09] why go grub? [16:09] hmm, okay. [16:09] Cann0n: to boot Xen [16:09] H [16:09] ah [16:09] slackware poses no addt'l difficulties to using grub than any other linux [16:09] zaltekk, shouldnt be any different than other distros if you've done it before.. [16:10] mancha: Wiseguy: i asked because i've never installed grub myself. i just don't want to destroy the system by doing something dumb [16:10] you won't destroy it [16:10] if you're very worried backup your MBR so you don't even need to run lilo to fix but a mere dd or a windows side mbr writer [16:10] the worst you will have to do is fix your MBR, and that is not hard [16:11] yeah, that wouldn't be difficult to fix [16:11] i'll give it a try after my kernel is done compiling [16:11] hehe and because you specifically asked if it was difficult in slackware, i thought maybe you had done it before :P [16:11] i forgot to specify a job number =/ [16:11] in a different distro [16:12] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:13] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:13] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [16:14] oh i see why you said compiling, .33.1 is out. you're such a bleeding edge whore [16:15] hitheremrdude (~81f18793@gateway/web/freenode/x-usmgczwtvaptnnrv) joined ##slackware. [16:15] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.79.118) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:15] anyone know how i can get pictures to show in the middle of the screen in firefox? [16:15] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:16] hitheremrdude: when you are viewing an image directly?(ie, no html) [16:16] yeah [16:16] any hints appreciated.. [16:16] i'm not sure that there is a way to do that short of modifying the source [16:16] maybe you can find a plugin? [16:18] yeah.. trying now.. [16:18] no luck :/ [16:18] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: aula [16:19] with ? [16:20] admboom: that requires it to be html [16:21] control + (<+ sign> or ) enlarges, which is a similar effect [16:21] oh, yea skipped the no html part. what about X geometry [16:21] que? [16:21] x geometry? [16:22] i open windows in tabs not windows.. [16:22] i liked kuickshow from KDE 3.5; it was nice for this kind of thing [16:22] maybe it's possible to create a greasemonkey script that catches all *.jpg,*.png etc files and makes a html page with the picture in the middle? [16:22] not that i would know how... [16:23] and replaces that window... [16:24] Wertik (~mirggi@95-25-23-91.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:25] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [16:27] Axius (~hi@92.82.64.147) joined ##slackware. [16:27] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:27] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [16:29] paul's good advices : " add the kde 4.4.2" to the current :) [16:30] Wertik (~mirggi@95-25-23-91.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: [16:31] Axius (~hi@92.82.64.147) left irc: Client Quit [16:33] anybody with virtualbox installed from Virtualbox.sh? [16:35] v4nelle: you mean the installer that comes with the binary only dist ? [16:35] i mean for this VirtualBox-3.1.4-57640-Linux_x86.run [16:36] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] I'm running 3.0.4 on 12.1 if that helps [16:38] jar_corefile, can you tell me pls,which permissions have you on /opt/VirtualBox/VirtualBox ?sorry about my english :) [16:38] -r-s--x--x 1 root root 18616 2009-08-04 12:38 VirtualBox [16:39] raendeer (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:39] Francis_Arvelos (~ubuntu@20158095169.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:40] i have the same permissions but i get this error when i go to make a virtual machine. http://imagebin.org/89157 [16:41] could be that some module is not loaded (can't remember if it will load them right after install) [16:41] you can also try to stop vbox and rm your ~/.VirtualBox [16:41] (wiping conf, in case you had something from before) [16:42] also try restart rc.vboxdrv [16:42] Francis_Arvelos (ubuntu@20158095169.user.veloxzone.com.br) left ##slackware. [16:42] Camarade_Tux, i use the virtualbox-module from slackbuilds.org....same varsion but ose [16:42] if you have nothing running, you could actually reboot [16:43] unfortunately, I'm not using vbox anymore here (qemu-kvm) [16:43] anyone backup and restore a windows partition to a bigger partition/drive ? [16:43] v4nelle: the binary install should build and install modules for you [16:43] jeev: tar? [16:43] hitheremrdude (~81f18793@gateway/web/freenode/x-usmgczwtvaptnnrv) left irc: Quit: Page closed [16:43] v4nelle: ones that match what its installing [16:43] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-147-234-246.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:43] jar_corefile, i do manual install with this http://pastebin.ca/1842785 [16:43] and have you installed both packages? [16:43] Camarade_Tux, i did it with dd... worked fine but uh [16:44] when i increased the size of the partition, windows still doesn't detect the additional size ;/ [16:44] ntfsresize [16:44] i used qtparted, i resized it. [16:45] windows no longer sees additional free space on the physical drive but it still shows a 250gb partition [16:45] should be 500 [16:45] you not grokking me soler? [16:45] soldier? [16:45] jeev: and if you mount if from linux? [16:45] have you tried using forcespace=500GB during the windows kernel boot, jeev ? [16:45] scnr [16:46] you resized the partition, i am not talking about that [16:46] good question [16:46] v4nelle: have you run /etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv start ? [16:46] mancha, let me look into ntfsresize [16:46] jar_corefile, yeap...i go to make the module again [16:50] you've got it imaged so if things go south, you're covered [16:50] yea.. [16:51] it's mounted at 233g obviously formatted [16:51] so it's not showing the full space, let me read up on ntfsresize now [16:51] ntfsresize -size 400G /dev/sda1 or summit [16:51] ea_suter (~easuter@nat-1.uevora.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:52] oops, prolly --size (since i used long form) [16:52] the drive that went "bad" i used hitachi's software to "repair" the sector [16:52] i dont know how much to trust it, i can write zero's a bunch of times and run tests again [16:53] you don't repair a phyically damaged sector. you put it in the "do not use" firmwaretable [16:53] yea, it reallocates the sectors but [16:53] ok i guess i'll use this for not too crazy stuff, it's not the monies.. i just hate tossing hd's [16:53] once it does that it's blocked inthe drive's HW, SW can't access it [16:54] yea, it should be ok if i lower it 1GB, incase eh ? [16:54] 499G or so [16:54] yeah give it a little padding, sure. i don't think that'll help really but if it helps you sleep at night do it [16:55] what is 1GB out of 500GB anyways? like one-fifth of one percent? [16:55] yea i'll lower it a GIG, just incase.. [16:55] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:56] [yop] (~yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [16:56] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:56] jar_corefile (~jar_coref@h69-129-27-145.mdsnwi.dedicated.static.tds.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:56] i swear man [16:56] what would people do without linux. [16:57] run windows and cry? >.> [16:57] no, i mean we all run windows.. come on [16:57] but shit man it's so fun fixing stuff from linux [16:58] Action: jkwood tries to figure out who this we is [16:59] lol [16:59] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:59] heh, jeev, i'm at CSUN right now :P [17:00] wACK [17:00] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:00] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.4.212) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:00] heh [17:01] sitting in a physics lab... i'm gonna have to take this class next spring [17:01] FAILURE [17:01] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:02] i have to take the pre-reqs for it in the fall :P [17:02] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:03] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [17:03] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:05] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:06] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. 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[17:13] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:14] http://bashish.sourceforge.net/screenshot.html [17:15] and it's completely unusable [17:15] rather, unbearable [17:16] (sorry, too grumpy, better go to bed) [17:16] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [17:17] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:18] usr_local (~usr_local@c-24-98-137-201.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:18] yeah it looks pretty terrible [17:18] goofy [17:18] it's quite nice but after five minutes, you've had enough [17:20] damn, this is nuts [17:20] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:20] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/0e7qXj81.html [17:21] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:21] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E7934.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:23] i reinstall vbox-kernel but nothing....i get again this error http://imagebin.org/89157 [17:24] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:25] Necos: what is it [17:27] v4nelle: uhhhhhhhhhhhhh virtualbox is really easy to use [17:27] v4nelle: why dont you rm ~/.VirtualBox/ and start over [17:27] allend (~allend@CPE-203-51-172-185.lns11.lon.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [17:27] and why i dont :p [17:27] DerpTard, i do it many times [17:28] how did you install virtualbox [17:28] it's a program to generate points for a cosine graph [17:28] DerpTard, i made his http://pastebin.ca/1842885 [17:29] i make it after usermanual reading [17:29] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-29-83.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:29] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-23-163.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:29] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [17:29] basically, it's a numerical approximation of the graph f(x) = 10 * cos(x) [17:31] i didn't realize what it was til i ran it and looked at the output >.> [17:31] and you are impressed, why? [17:31] v4nelle: why did you do all of that................. [17:32] i want to know what i must remove to uninstall it :) [17:32] O.o [17:32] i read about the same problem around web [17:33] because i didn't know what it was :) [17:33] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [17:34] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.60) joined ##slackware. [17:37] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [17:37] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:38] v4nelle: i already told you last week [17:39] to not use vbox? [17:39] sh VirtualBox-blah.sh -- uninstall [17:39] will uninstall it ALL [17:39] unless you spread it all over your drive like your script does [17:39] LOL [17:39] " -- uninstall" note the spaces [17:40] plus...it will work when you install it a like a normal human [17:40] DerpTard, Unrecognized flag : --uninstall [17:40] he said, note the spaces... [17:40] v4nelle: -- uninstall [17:40] -- uninstall and not --uninstall [17:40] sorry sorry and sorry :) [17:41] Action: Cann0n cracks his wipe [17:41] ewwww [17:41] no one knows where that wipe has been... [17:41] lol [17:41] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:41] allend_ (~allend@CPE-58-164-114-15.lnse4.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [17:42] Necos: lets just say, what happes in vegas, isn't as good as what happens in the RLD Amsterdam [17:43] vegas used to be awesome [17:43] i've been in vegas for at least 200 days in the past 5 years [17:43] i don't even wanna know >.> [17:43] and that's why you're poor jeev? >.> [17:43] i've had so many interactions girls but actually never got laid there [17:43] allend (~allend@CPE-203-51-172-185.lns11.lon.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:43] exactly Necos! [17:44] Necos: lets just say... a lot of different, dirty women used it [17:44] and you haven't gone to the bunny ranch? booooo! [17:44] lol Cann0n [17:45] jeev, have you seen the show on HBO about that place? [17:46] DerpTard, everything is working now :) [17:46] no [17:46] thx all [17:46] they're in pahrump and shit but [17:46] lololol [17:46] v4nelle: welcome........ [17:46] not interested in hookers, i can get girls but i have a girlfriend, not risking losing the best girlfriend on earth for any girl [17:46] lol [17:46] i meant BEFORE the gf dingdong [17:47] Necos, who pays for girls man [17:47] do you know how many girls i turned down in the past ? i'm fucking stupid [17:47] being shy was te gayest thing on earth [17:47] the times i got laid was when the girl just sat on my cock [17:47] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-wgyxbkmgvkofshzd) left irc: Quit: xMDKx [17:48] hahahaha [17:48] i swear man i had a 1% conversion even with girls who were willing, i just never made moves :) [17:48] i swear Necos, i'm not lying i lost a lot of ass because i was/am shy [17:48] What the heck is this crap? [17:48] lol [17:49] ? [17:49] i make moves all the time... i never get lucky [17:49] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [17:49] Action: jkwood points out http://tinyurl.com/3kox9k [17:49] heh [17:49] sucks for you! [17:50] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:50] jeev: sucks that you are ugly [17:51] jkwood, and where does this conversation violate the chan rules? >.> [17:51] yea right [17:51] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-184-158.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:52] i bet jeev has his myspace page plastered with pics of himself [17:52] can someone here tell me how to change the clock in KDE4 to 12-hour format? [17:52] lol i dont use gayspace or crapbok [17:52] lol [17:53] there aren't any options for format in the settings...but it lets me do useless things like make the font italic [17:53] Necos: "patricularly vulgar language" and "bedroom conquests", to be specific. [17:54] that goes for jeev to, only more so [17:54] i missed that part :) [17:54] zaltekk: http://jasonbherald.com/2009/02/08/kde4-12-hour-clock/ [17:55] that was easy enough :) [17:56] damn, i skipped right over that line jkwood... thanks for the reminder [17:56] adaptr, dont hate me cause i use postfix [17:57] lol [17:57] jkwood: interesting that it is hidden there.. [17:57] jeev is a twitter kind of gay [17:57] *guy [17:57] lol [17:58] +1 [17:58] Nick change: xchg -> xchg_spi [17:58] and if you put statements 1 and 2 together DerpTard... [17:58] lol [17:58] snap [17:58] well this is weird...my System Settings icon isn't under [K]->Computer anymore.. [17:59] that's just too well done DerpTard lol [18:00] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-181.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:00] yea right i'd never use twitter [18:01] Coke (~peter@1-1-1-8a.asp.sth.bostream.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:01] we really shouldn't discriminate against the mentally ill [18:01] That's code for "Twitter banned me." [18:01] everyone appologize to jeev [18:02] lol [18:02] jkwood, read the channel rules. [18:02] jeev: read the 911 commission report....again [18:03] its all facts and truths [18:03] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [18:03] derf` (~derf@188.72.255.195) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:05] http://twitter.com/jeev [18:05] dorin_ (~dorin_ro@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [18:06] definately jeev " US may spy on ppl w/o warrants and hold ppl w/o charge at Gitmo, but at least business is now free to bribe politician " [18:06] lol [18:06] Action: Cann0n tweets that he visisted jeevs twitter [18:06] s/visisted/visited/ [18:07] Action: Skywise is determined to be the last person off twitter, etc... [18:07] lol that's hilarious... i didn't know jeev had a twitter page :P [18:07] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:07] hy [18:07] http://www.myspace.com/jeev [18:07] hi [18:07] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [18:08] \nick oxiredo_ro [18:08] dorin_: hello [18:08] Action: Cann0n tweets about a twitter of twats treating totally tremendous truffles on tarantula timexs til two twenty on tuesdays [18:08] lol [18:08] how to change my nick [18:08] it's /nick [18:08] ea_suter (~easuter@clv-24.temp.uevora.pt) joined ##slackware. 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[18:11] :tabs [18:11] yes [18:11] do u know how do i make pidgin open web pages (in konqueror ) in a new tab / not window [18:11] YESSSSSSS [18:11] ^>^ viminator [18:12] >:D [18:12] Action: Necos dies [18:12] hightone.org [18:12] allend_ (~allend@CPE-58-164-114-15.lnse4.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:12] listen to the choonz [18:12] ewww, he left a stain [18:13] looks ike www.yebol.com has left beta [18:14] DerpTard, lol i'm not on twitter and myspace. and yea, 9/11 commission is so true that even the authors are screaming for a new investigation citing they were pressured into bullshit [18:14] mrselfpwn: duckduckgo.com [18:14] that wont happen [18:14] govt likes keeping secrets [18:15] jeev: you wish kissinger had stayed [18:15] DerpTard: does it use other search engines? [18:15] thanks for the link btw [18:16] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:16] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:16] mrselfpwn: the best is https://ssl.scroogle.org/ [18:16] DerpTard: yebol seems pretty cool to, at least when it's done [18:17] cteg (~heretic@host-091-097-161-197.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [18:17] gtg [18:17] bye jeev, my lover [18:17] DerpTard (~189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-ggeqqojjslsyjixh) left irc: Quit: Page closed [18:17] offs [18:18] .. akwaaard [18:18] terry_ (~terry@74.113.242.6) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:19] amine_ (~Milanista@wana-16-244-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [18:20] ALVAN (~galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:21] hmmm, there's no slackbuild for gnuplot? [18:23] hmmm, nevermind... [18:23] ? [18:24] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.79.118) joined ##slackware. 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[18:46] Prefect (~Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [18:48] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Quit: d ä_ĺ b [18:48] ea_suter (~easuter@clv-24.temp.uevora.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [18:50] using slackpkg, what package would a person need to blacklist in order to prevent the upgrade/installation of a new kernel? [18:51] knerl-huge and/or kernel-generic [18:51] Maybe kernel-huge-smp, etc. [18:52] Prefect (~Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [18:53] alright. [18:54] thanks, that should be enough to avoid a repeat of what happened the last time I tried this. [18:54] damn, it's 4pm and i'm still working on physics... what the hell is wrong with me? lol [18:55] te_ (~te@74.113.242.6) joined ##slackware. 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[19:14] not that i know of... but there is an older driver included in /extra, i think [19:15] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [19:16] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [19:18] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-24-178.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:18] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.75.29) joined ##slackware. [19:19] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-49.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:20] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [19:21] Someone save me from VB class! [19:21] its every morning.. first thing... :( [19:23] pgeek|| (~anon@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [19:23] Nick change: mikee -> mfreenet [19:24] DareDevil0 (~Another@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:25] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-31-189.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:25] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-49.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:25] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [19:27] DareDevil (~Another@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [19:27] where is xorgconfig? [19:27] I'm on slackware 13 and I don't see it [19:28] ph|ber (~phiber@mail.synergies4u.com) joined ##slackware. [19:28] Down the hall, third room on the left. Mostly keeps to himself these days, what with X practically configuring itself when you first run it. [19:28] -.- [19:29] I need to configure it to find out what drivers are available for this card [19:30] there is a video cards database in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Cards [19:30] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-31-189.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [19:30] or rather, there might be. I wouldn't know myself. [19:30] but that's just something I got from google real quick. [19:31] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-29-5.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[19:54] heya fire|bird [19:54] i'm working on some graphing stuff, i totally missed your greeting >.<; [19:54] lol [19:55] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:55] neonflux (~neonflux@adsl-76-252-223-236.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:56] gnuplot is being a little bitch [19:57] whip it in to shape. [19:58] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [19:58] that's what i'm trying to do lol [19:58] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:00] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-29-5.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:00] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:01] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-225.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:01] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [20:01] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [20:08] Razec (1000@189-92-6-126.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[22:07] nevermind, it's fixed in the next version... [22:12] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [22:14] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:16] fuck man im tired of seeing people who cant play basketball at the gym [22:16] it's so depressing [22:16] i was shooting the ball so well jordan would shit himself.. and i lost because i picked up a sorry ass guy i felt bad to say no to [22:16] lol you'd hate me [22:17] i hate people who can't play, dont come onto the floor [22:17] its hard to get better unless you play [22:17] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-23-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:18] you should be playing at an elementary school after hours if you suck [22:18] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-164.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:18] i waited an hour for my turn, went in and lit the place up but my teamates sucked ballz [22:18] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [22:18] i'll be honest, i rarely light shit up in a game but blocks and rebounds, offensively i'm almost a non-factor.. i'm the guy who gets 15 blocks and 15 rebounds a game. [22:19] but i'm good offensively if i get the chance, i guess i can't win if i have shitty players on my team cause i take control, usually i let the better players handle the offense [22:19] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [22:19] and what about when you aren't playing video games? [22:20] yea right eviljames, i'm even sick in call of duty, i killed straterra a million times [22:20] well not a million but i'm 31337 too [22:20] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424744.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:22] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:24] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. [22:26] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-118.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:26] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [22:26] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-164.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:26] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [22:28] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:30] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-122-218.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:30] Heya,Slackers [22:31] su [22:31] sup [22:31] heya,cann0n...how's it goin'? 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[22:43] the output I want is A1 B1 \n A2 B2 \n A3 B3 .... [22:43] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [22:44] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:45] kappa, its diff -y [22:48] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:51] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:51] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:51] Skywise: that works - but I think there's a command that does it directly [22:52] anyway - thanks! Problem solved [22:52] yw [22:54] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-118.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [22:56] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-84.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:56] theres usually more then 1 way to do everything under linux [22:59] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:59] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:04] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [23:17] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [23:19] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [23:20] conatic (~conatic@65.27-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [23:22] neonflux_ (~neonflux@64.134.225.239) joined ##slackware. [23:22] tsccof (~martin@187.5.235.48) joined ##slackware. [23:24] gnrp_ (~gnrp@devrandom.physik-pool.TU-Berlin.DE) joined ##slackware. [23:24] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:24] xih_ (~xih@200-96-221-211.pvoce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:24] _guitarm1n_ (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:32] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) returned to ##slackware. [23:32] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:33] tsccof: ok [23:35] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [23:35] crouton (crouton@bas1-toronto10-1279398219.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:36] tsccof (~martin@187.5.235.48) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [23:37] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) got lost in the net-split. [23:37] Wiseguy (wiseguy@infinite.evilness.ca) returned to ##slackware. [23:38] gnrp (~gnrp@devrandom.physik-pool.TU-Berlin.DE) got lost in the net-split. [23:38] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) got lost in the net-split. [23:38] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) got lost in the net-split. [23:38] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) got lost in the net-split. [23:38] xih (~xih@200-96-221-211.pvoce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) got lost in the net-split. [23:38] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.239) got lost in the net-split. [23:38] hey guys.. i'm having some network problems. on windows right now. at first, sites were loading up really slowly. seemed like the dns lookup was taking long and when i rebooted into slackware last, i can't connect at all. it was fine when it booted up but when i did "rc.inet1 restart" the dhcp server lookup kept timing out. i've been able to connect before so i think it shouldn't be a configuration issue (i.e., network key, ssid, [23:39] is there a linux application that work as Matlab? [23:39] yea i think there is something that uses the same language [23:39] but there is also octave [23:39] and R? [23:39] well, I mean open source application [23:40] did you check out this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_numerical_analysis_software ? [23:40] good, let me see this [23:41] powtrix, there is also mathematica for linux or matlab for linux [23:43] need to play some statistics exercices... [23:44] there's a package for that too [23:44] it's called "S" i think [23:45] here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_statistical_packages [23:45] no it's not called "S" i guess [23:45] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.29.121) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:47] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [23:47] This what you're thinking of? http://www.r-project.org/ [23:47] skamikaze (~basti@unaffiliated/skamikaze) joined ##slackware. [23:47] skamikaze (basti@unaffiliated/skamikaze) left ##slackware ("Verlassend"). [23:48] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:48] ah yes, there IS an "S". it's called the S programming language. [23:48] I need to test them, I thiknk so [23:48] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:48] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:48] SPlus is an implementation of that language [23:48] s/thiknk/think [23:48] R uses it too [23:50] anyway, anyone here that might be able to help with the network problems i'm having? [23:50] actually lemme continue to google [23:51] ajna (~ajna@68.235.239.148) joined ##slackware. [23:51] crouton, dns? wireless? [23:52] jafnhar (~jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:52] yea it's wireless [23:52] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] try wicd [23:52] dns lookups take really long and last time i rebooted i couldn't even connect to the router [23:52] Hello. Just a quick question. I'm wondering what other Slackers use to play Blu-Ray video. Anyone feel like throwing out a recommendation? [23:53] Subject03 (~user@82.230.25.69) left irc: Quit: ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs) [23:53] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:53] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:54] ajna: I have a bluray player hooked up to my tv [23:54] I don't have a TV. I'm looking for software decoders for internal Blu-Ray drives. [23:54] ajna: mplayer? [23:55] XINE user. MPlayer can handle Blu-Ray? [23:55] http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1327197 [23:55] alright lemme reboot and see if it can actually connect to the router [23:55] With a patch apparently [23:55] I have to admit that I didn't do much research before coming here. This is for a planned upgrade. Not an immediate issue. [23:55] crouton (crouton@bas1-toronto10-1279398219.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: [23:56] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. 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