[00:00] is there a way to view an animated gif (being animated) with imagemagick? [00:00] eviljames: No idea; something truncated that file, and I don't know what. Probably a script gone bad somewhere [00:00] multilib? [00:00] nope, 64-current [00:01] I don't konw how multilib would make a difference, to be honest, but... well, nevermind :) [00:01] Just reinstall koffice then, I guess [00:01] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.237.105) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:02] alfonso (alfonso@190.74.244.87) joined ##slackware. [00:02] rworkman: just did, message gone.. did I come across a cosmic ray/silent write error? [00:02] if so, I'm cool with that. [00:03] mancha: know gifsicle can...been a while since I messed with it [00:04] hello all i am running slackware 13 64 bits and i only want to upgrade my xap and kde, what dop i need to do. I have slackware 13.1 dvd with me [00:05] hrmm, ok, gonna google gifsicle [00:05] you go to the command line and type man slackpkg [00:05] thanks. [00:05] mancha: np..was messing with it for a script in conky [00:06] sharkzz (~sharkzz@180.92.186.156) joined ##slackware. [00:07] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:07] what package contains libuuid.so.1 and libstdc++.so.6? [00:07] MLanden, graphicsmagick does have a way: animate animated.gif [00:08] util-linux-ng and gcc [00:08] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:08] or maybe cxxlibs, i forget who has the dynamic [00:09] mancha: thanks...couldn't recall [00:10] yeah it doesn't seem to do anything at first, but a few clicks later it's animating. [00:10] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.107.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:12] rworkman: It's not really feasible for me to just downgrade zlib, is it? [00:13] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-246-71.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:14] kickback (~kickback@122.161.217.223) joined ##slackware. [00:15] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [00:15] viriatus (~viriatus@189.107.75.182) joined ##slackware. [00:15] hello guys.. [00:16] i want ask.. [00:16] how to create new user in slackware ... i forget create user.... [00:16] eprod (~user@96-25-191-71.gar.clearwire-wmx.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:16] i click console/terminal [00:16] adduser, useradd... [00:16] just login by root [00:17] eviljames re koffice, I don't know. Gremilins. :) [00:17] er, gremlins [00:17] adduser -r nameuser <-- like this ? [00:17] eviljames: feasible, yeah, but really, if that's actually the problem, ardour should be fixed [00:17] alfonso (alfonso@190.74.244.87) left irc: [00:18] wharncliffe (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:19] rworkman: Yes, well, right now this machine is used daily for recording and almost nothing else. [00:19] sharkzz: just type in adduser [00:19] rworkman: So having ardour working is more important than even gcc :P [00:20] owh..really..i need to try.. [00:20] That's understnadable. If that *is* the problem, please ping theSBo maintainer of ardour at least [00:20] rworkman: will do. [00:21] which reminded me of another channel I should be in :P [00:21] :) [00:24] kickback, m type adduser and then [00:25] output is User ID ('UID') [ defaults to next available ]: [00:25] sharkzz: just hit enter [00:25] not put nameuser or what? [00:26] anything.. ? [00:26] sory m new this OS [00:26] sharkzz: it didn't ask you for a username? [00:26] ok.. [00:27] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.56.20) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:27] kickback, and next step.. [00:27] just follow ? [00:27] if it didn't for some reason, do 'CTRL + c' and then type adduser [00:27] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:27] ok [00:28] kickback, want login user ? what command ? [00:28] i'm not sure if i understand. i'll PM you [00:30] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [00:32] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.95.199) joined ##slackware. [00:33] rworkman: from the zlib changelog, it looks like in version 1.2.4.5 they hide internal functions.. now to dig down and see what those functions that disappeared are, and if/where they're used in ardour. [00:34] sharkzz (~sharkzz@180.92.186.156) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:35] I'd google "ardour" and "zlib-1.2.5" first - probably less work, and maybe one of the Gentoo doc writers mangled a patch too ;-) [00:36] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:37] rworkman, what do you think when someone spends 109 million dollars of their own money to become governor of a bankrupt state ? [00:37] Someone needs to feed and water him/her and make sure he/she gets plenty of sunshine? [00:38] lol [00:38] i mean shit man she has to get paid back [00:39] Well, nothing like accepting some bribes! [00:39] err ... "campaign donations" [00:39] eviljames, or handing out like boehner lol [00:39] rworkman, did you see the link ? [00:39] Tree, rope, bureaucrats. Some assembly required. [00:40] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.107.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:40] I did, but video links don't often get watched here - connection becomes unusable [00:41] youtube, boehnor admits handing out checks from big tobacco, says it's not illegal but he should've done it another time, another place LOL [00:41] then the vote passes, for big tobacco [00:41] in the 90's [00:41] Oh, of course. [00:42] The real issue is what article, section, and/or clause in USC grants *any* power to Congress to regulate tobacco. [00:42] As long as the circuses are active, we're happy. [00:42] http://www.lp.org/blogs/mark-hinkle/stop-stealing-my-stuff-by-john-jay-myers [00:43] Much better said ^ [00:43] we should stop talking, mancha might throw a tizzy fit and part for being off topic! [00:43] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [00:43] you ARE off topic! [00:44] I'm tracking down a zlib/ardour mystery you insensitive clod! [00:44] minimum government and maximum freedom wont work when bush scared everyone about bin laden [00:44] eviljames, go track down your balls.. you left them somewhere [00:44] yeah, they must still be on your chin [00:44] bah [00:44] lol [00:44] i keep walking into this shit [00:44] haha [00:44] next time wear boots [00:45] i'm much better in real life. [00:45] that's what ... she said ? [00:45] nope [00:45] i'm not sure, who's she [00:46] inb4 your mom joke [00:47] im trying to convince people to buy american cars but they're still ugly. [00:47] there should be a law mandating families to purchase an american vehicle [00:48] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [00:48] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:48] viriatus (~viriatus@189.107.75.182) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:48] Rule #1: Any time you think/utter/agree with any phrase beginning in "there should be a law," you're almost surely part of the problem. [00:49] There should be a law against accusing people of being part of the problem [00:49] There shuld be a law against that statement [00:49] ... [00:49] JINX! [00:49] What's the difference these days, my Ford Ranger was assembled in MI, engine was built in France, and the transmission was assemble in Germany [00:49] there should be a law against making new laws [00:50] What's interesting is that many "import" cars are made in the US where "domestic" cars are made in Mexico. [00:50] Originally that was to get by import restrictions [00:51] Until recently, many Toyota Corolla were built in Fremont, California. [00:51] Bugz, not just assembled, but fully built. [00:51] Old practice was to bring the frame and chassis in as two parts to avoid the levy on full cars. [00:52] NUMMI was a full plant. [00:52] I think it closed now (it was majority owned by GM) [00:54] holy shit, now i can finally watch youtube video, even though i dont have flash [00:55] thanks to FF4 Beta and WebM [00:55] How's FF4? [00:56] Bugz: pretty nice. never crashed even once ;) [00:56] i've been using it since beta 2 [00:56] now its on beta 6 [00:57] though they still dont have the new UI for GNU/Linux :( [00:57] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:58] the bonus is that watching Youtube vids doesn't use half of the processor power like it did with flash ;) [00:58] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:58] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-142-72.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Later folks [01:00] Flash is a dog, on the positive it lets you test your computer cooling fans, :) [01:00] lol [01:00] hehe [01:00] to me adobe IS beta [01:01] nothing they've released has ever been dully stable and bug-free [01:01] or atleast mostly >_> [01:01] i'm doing my part to fight terrorism by replacing adobe reader with evince on the windows boxes i provide support for [01:01] Reducer (~reducer@g230079245.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [01:02] there should be a law barring gay linux distributions which are every dist except for slackware of course [01:03] procyonlabs (~randy@pool-173-69-175-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: I'm outta heeere... [01:04] jeev: I thought you were a lib, that's not PC what you said, :) [01:04] what [01:04] jeev : apparently, my grandma is gay, because she uses Pardus :/ [01:05] kickback, she must've had some hot ass partners when she was younger [01:05] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com ) [01:06] mrcarrot (~lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) joined ##slackware. [01:06] this discussion is getting awkward [01:06] i installed libevent-1.4.14b-stable to use tor-0.2.1.26 but ./configure doesn't find it, the message is the following: checking for libevent directory... (system) [01:06] checking whether we need extra options to link libevent... configure: error: Found linkable libevent in (system), but it does not seem to run, even with -R. Maybe specify another using --with-libevent-dir} [01:06] could somebody help, please? [01:07] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:08] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-225-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:08] have you tried libevent 1.14.13-stable? [01:08] kickback, you walked into it. [01:09] tuvok302 (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-227.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:10] hm.. ok, I'll remove the 1.4.14b and try the older one [01:10] (ie based on the premise that 1.4.13 is the one on sbo) [01:10] tuvok302Lappy (~Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-102.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:10] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431579.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:12] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. [01:12] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) left irc: Client Quit [01:15] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:17] asarch (~asarch@189.188.151.236) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:21] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:24] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [01:25] BP{k}: i have removed the libs, includes & man, now i'll try libevent-1.4.13 [01:25] woh3 (~will@nv-71-2-72-53.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [01:25] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:26] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:28] the same thing: checking whether we need extra options to link libevent... configure: error: Found linkable libevent in (system), but it does not seem to run, even with -R. Maybe specify another using --with-libevent-dir} [01:34] kickback (~kickback@122.161.217.223) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:35] kickback (~kickback@122.161.217.223) joined ##slackware. [01:36] Reducer: hm .. let me build this. [01:41] Reducer: hmm works fine for me using SBo's libevent and tor scripts [01:42] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:43] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-246-71.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:45] i'm thinking about buying a nettop [01:46] n00mada (~chatzilla@208.68.48.106) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:46] FRENOBI (~root@200-140-40-146.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:47] who used squid coss ? [01:47] best performace in HIT cache Coss our AUFS ? [01:47] Reducer (~reducer@g230079245.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:49] lio_013 (~root@41.153.40.160) joined ##slackware. [01:49] FRENOBI (root@200-140-40-146.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left ##slackware. [01:49] after finish installing a package with sbopkg where can i find it to save it in my local hard disk for futer use ????/ [01:50] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:50] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:54] lio_013: it's left in $TMP [01:54] usually [01:54] n00mada (~chatzilla@208.68.48.106) joined ##slackware. [01:55] yes it is there ... thanks [01:55] lio_013 (root@41.153.40.160) left ##slackware. [01:58] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:59] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [02:00] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [02:00] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:00] How do I use exo-mount as root? 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[02:16] Nick change: fire|bird -> zombie|bird [02:16] BP{k}: i use the packes from http://www.monkey.org/~provos/libevent/ torproject.org has a link to this libevent as described here: https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en [02:17] downst (~rfore@host-24-100-49-165.newwavecomm.net) joined ##slackware. [02:17] vituarl (~vituarl@constant.inople.net) joined ##slackware. [02:17] i did nothing special, fresh install, nvidia driver installed, some etc/X11/xorg.conf settings, that's all [02:17] you getting an error? newer version than 1.4.13? [02:18] yes [02:18] mancha: he's getting an error on both 1.4.13 and 1.4.14 .. I just build tor by sbopkg and it works fine. [02:18] slackware64 [02:18] i got no errro on 1.4.13 back when i built it [02:18] Reducer: that's what I build it on :) [02:19] :( [02:19] pastebin the errors [02:19] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [02:22] felipe (~felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. [02:22] n00mada (~chatzilla@208.68.48.106) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:22] Nick change: zombie|bird -> fire|bird [02:23] http://pastebin.org/879665 [02:24] this was with tor-0.2.1.26 after libevent [02:25] you can see some part of ./configure && make; su make install, too. [02:25] yeah i see. hrmm, why'd you pick the beta, i'd try 1.4.13-stable [02:26] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-93-65.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:26] also you seem to be putting libevent in /usr/local/lib... is this in your ld path? [02:27] i removed all the files from 1.4.14 libs, includes, man etc.. [02:27] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:27] downloaded libevent-1.4.13-stable, but the same problem [02:28] does --with-libevent-dir=/usr/local/lib help? on tor [02:28] newslacker (root@75-121-189-49.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [02:29] :/ [02:29] it look's good for now [02:30] FRENOBI (~root@200-140-40-146.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:31] yes, this works, it's late for me now after 25 hours [02:31] Thank you mancha [02:31] no problem-oh [02:31] damn, never seen this last message [02:32] bah. i just redid the mass convert thing and skype stilll doesnt work [02:32] i get a strange file not found error and no clues [02:33] FRENOBI (~root@200-140-40-146.cbace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [02:33] has anybody here dealt with this? it _did_ work at least once [02:34] hm.. i will do the whole thing again with the newer version of the lib and look for the correct lib dir, so that the same thing could not happen for a second time [02:34] downst (~rfore@host-24-100-49-165.newwavecomm.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:34] but first some hours sleep [02:34] bye [02:34] Reducer (~reducer@g226105200.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:42] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:42] Action: mishehu sighs [02:43] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [02:43] btrfs is working pretty nice, but I'm scared to use it in production without a functional fsck [02:43] n00mada (~chatzilla@208.68.48.106) joined ##slackware. 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[03:01] setting the env var in /etc/profile doesn't fix the problem, but I do notice the change to in in bash [03:01] and setting the env var in bashrc obviously won't work (right?) [03:02] why won't it work? [03:02] Doesn't that only change the variable for bash? [03:02] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:03] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:03] there's a ton of different things that could be going on.. is it a useful env var, like $DISPLAY ? [03:03] it's just JAVA_HOME [03:04] isn't that already set? [03:04] netbeans thinks it's something different from what I set it to in /etc/profile [03:04] that's set in /etc/profile.d/{jre,jdk}.sh I can't remember exactly which one [03:04] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [03:04] it ought to be [03:04] eviljames: jre.sh [03:04] although netbeans often will set it's own, because it comes with it's own jre/jdk (optionally) [03:04] (I wish I didn't have to use netbeans) [03:04] hm, ok, let me check [03:04] of course, /etc/profile.d doesn't get t ocuh if your shell thinks it's not a login shell.. which may be the problem that's really the case here ... aka .. how to invoke bash properly [03:06] I'm willing to bet that netbeans has a setting for $JAVA_HOME in its menus somewhere, and if you ran echo $JAVA_HOME in a term, vs in Netbeans' term it would report differently. [03:06] hm, jre.sh seems like it could be the source of my problem [03:06] if I change it will I have to reboot? [03:06] no, but you will have to logout and login again. [03:06] what he said [03:06] eviljames: my thoughts exactly, but I couldn't find it in the menus. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough [03:07] okay, let me give this a shot [03:07] n00mada (~chatzilla@208.68.48.106) left irc: Quit: n00mada [03:07] skype? mass convert? huh? [03:09] just for spam's sake: here's a backtrace http://pastebin.ca/1941907 of what I'm seeing.. looks like libxml2-2.7.7 + zlib-1.2.5.. somewhere between these two characters is an ardour segfault. [03:10] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [03:11] n00mada (~chatzilla@208.68.48.106) joined ##slackware. [03:11] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [03:11] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:12] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [03:12] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Client Quit [03:13] ...well that didn't work. I mean, it worked in bash but not netbeans. Looks like netbeans must be overriding the JAVA_HOME somehow [03:15] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [03:15] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [03:17] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [03:21] ki2azy (~krazy@adsl-99-88-58-206.dsl.pnblar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:23] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:25] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) joined ##slackware. [03:26] vituarl, did you also netbeans via slackbuilds.org? [03:27] s/also/install/ [03:27] not enough coffee [03:28] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Quit: Necrosporus [03:32] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [03:34] kickback (~kickback@122.161.217.223) joined ##slackware. [03:39] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-129.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:40] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D4C3C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [03:49] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.2, revision: 4740, sources date: 20100627, built on: 2010-08-08 18:29:00 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:54] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [03:57] kickback (~kickback@122.161.217.223) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:58] kickback (~kickback@122.161.217.223) joined ##slackware. [03:58] hehe i finally managed to make fluxbox crash [03:59] feels like an achievement [04:00] i believe congratulations are in order? :) [04:00] isnt really a crash, but basically put it into an infinite loop of changing the workspace and opening the root menu randomlly [04:01] hahah [04:01] without touching the keyboard ;) [04:03] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-173-241-190.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:05] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-4-205.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [04:14] now i'll try to make KDE4 crash [04:14] oh wait.. nevermind ;) [04:16] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:17] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [04:17] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [04:21] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [04:22] is there a reason we have two directories for mounting media? /mnt and /media? [04:24] kickback, /mnt is for static mounts (fstab), /media is for dynamic mounts (HAL). [04:24] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Quit: You Welcome to join my channel ##Iraqi [04:25] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.168.159) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:25] thats actually not convincing at all :/ [04:26] ok whatever [04:26] mkdir /icanhazanymountpoint [04:26] i know, but its just confusing [04:27] kickback, the FHS: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ [04:29] huh... /mnt : Mount point for a temporarily mounted filesystem [04:29] lol /media : Mount point for removeable media [04:29] historically, filesystems were mounted directly to /mnt. [04:29] nowadays we have subdirs there. [04:31] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D4C3C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:31] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5F1E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:32] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [04:32] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [04:33] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. 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[05:36] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [05:38] check cupsd.conf perhaps [05:39] C00re: I did it is set to listen on 127.0.0.1 but from netstat I can see it also opens an udp port [05:39] Browsing Off ? [05:39] C00re: and that one is 0.0.0.0:631 [05:40] C00re: browsing off ? [05:40] in the config [05:40] C00re: yeah that did it thanks :) [05:41] great:) [05:44] spectre (~kyle@pool-98-109-75-137.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:45] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.95.199) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:50] kickback (~kickback@122.161.217.223) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [05:51] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.95.199) joined ##slackware. [05:53] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) joined ##slackware. [05:56] grazymax (~grazymax@host230-48-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:56] kickback (~kickback@122.163.214.26) joined ##slackware. [06:03] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [06:06] wow new firefox [06:07] sahko: yes, it apparently doesn't crash on startup anymore :) [06:08] grazymax (~grazymax@host34-159-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:20] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:25] hrad (~a@77.93.201.43) joined ##slackware. [06:30] Nick change: realmadbear -> madbear [06:32] hi, I'm setting utf-8 charset to X console to be able to only display Czech charset, is it enough to set /etc/profile.d/lang.sh LANG=cs_CZ.UTF-8 ? [06:32] slackwiki for non X terminal says to append="resume=/dev/hda2 vt.default_utf8=1" to lilo [06:33] I'm not sure what resume=/dev/hda2 means and why is there the non-root partition [06:36] It is enough to only have: append="vt.default_utf8=1" [06:37] Unless you have an "append" line already, in which case you have to update it to match [06:37] I remember that I chose the utf-8 option during installation [06:38] never works [06:38] if it is supposed to [06:39] append="vt.default_utf8=1" has been there [06:47] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [06:47] when i type "gksudo pcmanfm" from the alt + f2 prompt, it asks me for password, and opens the file manager as sudo. but when i do the same from a bash prompt, it opens the file manager as sudo without even asking for a password [06:48] this is quite a problem [06:49] resume is for suspend to disk (aka hibernate) and is typically set to the swap partition. [06:49] slackware does not have gksudo [06:50] XGizzmo: i installed it, as i didnt install KDE [06:50] how can i fix this? [06:52] i wonder what i'm doing wrong [06:54] maybe you need to put it in `backticks` or something [06:55] please explain [06:56] whats backticks? [06:57] `gksudo pcmanfm` [06:59] sunzofman (~sunzofman@c-69-246-40-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:00] Mowah (1000@c-e580e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [07:02] XGizzmo: ok, using backticks asks for my password, but without backticks, it still opens pcmanfm with elevated privileges [07:02] tuvok302 (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-227.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby [07:02] without asking for the password [07:03] okay I misread your question [07:04] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [07:04] alienBOB, really don't know....I just need to display output out of my apps to see if it's properly encoded [07:05] append="vt.default_utf8=1" has already been there, I didn't find any other way to fix it [07:05] holy shit, even leafpad is opening without asking for password with gksudo :O [07:06] Action: phrag removes fire fighting jacket [07:06] if sudoers is set to not ask for a password... [07:07] or if no pass set on root account =P [07:07] $(bleh) is the new `bleh` [07:07] =P [07:08] XGizzmo: no, its set to ask for password alright [07:08] the problem is that it asks for password when i open it from the alt + f2 prompt [07:08] but doesnt when i use a terminal [07:09] i'll pastebin my sudoers file just in case [07:10] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:11] http://pastebin.ca/1941994 [07:14] whats the output of id [07:15] uid=1000(shivam) gid=1000(shivam) groups=1000(shivam),3(sys),10(wheel),17(audio),18(video),19(cdrom),84(power),86(netdev) [07:17] I don't know then, it should ask for your password. [07:18] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:18] hmmmm, ok, i get it, maybe my password is being cached [07:18] I have to leave for work in about 5 min so afk. [07:18] because i just did gksudo pcmanfm and it asked for password [07:19] did it 5 seconds later and it didnt [07:23] kickback, of course it is being cached. [07:24] john_dee (~id@95-29-14-213.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [07:24] slava_dp: yeah, i'm sure now :) [07:24] but any way to prevent this? [07:29] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [07:30] I remember reading some info that jre and jdk cannot be installed together on slack. does that still hold? [07:31] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:33] I have both [07:33] slava_dp, i have both installed [07:33] it'd be funny to be unable to run the programs you're writing ^^ [07:34] archceza1 (1000@daa122.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:34] rafu (~rafu@195.198.210.98) joined ##slackware. [07:34] pete` (~user@027.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:36] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [07:36] thanks, guys. [07:36] Is there a way I can change resolution from 100x1200 to 1680x1050 (I'm in KDE) [07:37] xrandr maybe? [07:37] I tried xrandr -s 1680x1050 and it complains that it is not in available modes. [07:37] archcezar (1000@actd193.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:38] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [07:38] xrandr tells me: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 240, current 1600 x 1200, maximum 1600 x 1200 default connected 1600x1200+0+0 0mm x 0mm [07:39] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-185-99.mel.connect.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:41] usr13, as you can read the max resolution recognised for your screen is 1600x1200 [07:41] maybe it's a driver problem? [07:41] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:42] You can use xrandr with the newmode and addmode options to create a new mode, bind it to a port, and force it at that resolution. [07:42] f [07:42] But only do that if you are certainly your monitor supports that resolution. [07:42] Also, that only works with xrandr 1.2 capable drivers, though. [07:45] intosh (~tosh@gate.makolab.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:46] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [07:47] Animeking (~edgar@adsl-64-181-223.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [07:47] Well, I installed slackware o_o [07:48] Surprisingly [07:48] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [07:48] LILO looks pretty nice in comparison to grub :/ [07:48] =) [07:48] you haven't seen its default I guess [07:48] :/ I mean, wow...I expected it to look hideous and ancient D: [07:48] yellow on red background or something like that ;p [07:48] the default LILO? [07:48] ._. [07:48] Thank God [07:48] it changed in 13, looks really nice now [07:48] MMm [07:49] now i need to install the nvidia drivers on slack [07:49] never got around to using LiLo [07:49] Animeking: slackbuild! [07:52] Actually, I think it is the KVM [07:52] screen(1) [07:54] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [07:55] Action: mrcarrot likes lilo [07:55] sudor (~unknown@151.95.197.88) joined ##slackware. [07:55] but screen i would at any moment exchange for tmux [07:55] usr13: KVMs can definitely interfere with the signal from the monitor enough to make the EDID unreadable. [07:58] tmux kicks ass [08:02] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:04] drakevr_ (~drakevr@ppp-94-66-132-63.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:05] Hmm [08:05] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:05] mplayer can't seem to handle videos [08:06] hmmmmmmmm [08:06] xD [08:06] >_>;; WTF [08:06] Since when? :-) [08:06] Animeking: try xine [08:06] I did [08:06] and it works [08:06] woot - flash 64-bit and huludesktop 64-bit [08:06] Its kind of /weird/ [08:06] drakevr_ (~drakevr@ppp-94-66-132-63.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [08:07] _weird_ [08:07] now all I need is a true 64bit skype for the wife and then I can upgrade my home from slack32 to slack64 [08:07] Animeking: mplayer doesnt work for me either [08:07] Hmm [08:07] Action: mrcarrot wonders if there is any really well working open source alternative to skype [08:07] alisonken1lap: flash64 was unavoidable, skype64... [08:07] But, why? It worked perfectly in other places [08:08] Animeking: What error does mplayer give? [08:08] Animeking: mplayer outputs informations on console [08:08] pastebin [08:08] Xine does, and i actally like xine better than mplayer now [08:08] Hmm, mplayer works now if you just run it by itself [08:09] adrien: if skype wants to continue to be a force in the voip world, they're gonna have to upgrade to 64-bit sooner or later - and sooner if htey want to be a serious player [08:09] :/ Augh [08:09] the parents of my wife is 2000km away from us and she wants to talk with them. because of that i have one computer infected with skype at home [08:10] wish i could get out the virus [08:10] As long as window is still top skype will continue to rain 'suprene' since no one over their cares about 'bitness' :/... [08:10] alisonken1lap: multilib and wow32 means they don't really need to [08:11] but making it fully 64bit is probably not *that* hard [08:12] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [08:12] Hmm, xine and mplayer can't make sound in the same time lol... [08:12] This is the first time I've ever had to deal with that (not an issue but still) [08:12] adrien: but multilib is going to go away when 32-bit is no longer availabie - and even MS has gone 64-bit [08:12] :P [08:13] alisonken1lap: if your app is standalone (as opposed to a plugin), then 32bit binaries work [08:13] Thing about MS is they try to keep backwards compatibility strong. [08:13] meaning, there's less incentive [08:13] If I recall back in XP a lot of 16 bit apps still work :/ [08:13] rafu (~rafu@195.198.210.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [08:13] I think SOME not too many still work in Vista and 7 but its becoming less and 'less' compatible with older programs every new release. [08:14] and 16bit on 32bit is harder than 32bit on 64bit [08:14] protected mode and friends [08:21] Slobad (~slobad23@92.17.235.77) joined ##slackware. [08:22] nvidia-linux-x86_64 no compat 32? [08:22] does this mean no 32 bit apps will run if I multilib? [08:24] 64bit flash is back.. http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html [08:24] phrag: yep - since yesterday :) [08:24] huludesktop on slack64 finally works without multilib [08:25] alisonken1lap: didnt it work with the previous 64bit version? [08:26] phrag: alienB0B made a package ;-) [08:26] sahko: according to hulu.com when I tried using the 64-bit flash: "Currently, hulu does not work on 64-bit systems" [08:26] alright so I got a slackbuild ;/ [08:26] but the "release notes" state hulu might have problems [08:26] ... [08:27] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [08:27] wait, hulu doesn't work in 64bit systems? [08:27] it didn't with the old plugin, no [08:27] it does now with the new flash [08:27] lets see if konqueror sees it now [08:27] hmph [08:27] Animeking: I think it doesn't ship 32bit libraries, so it would be a problem, but I don't use multilib, I don't really know what to do [08:28] LXDM looks good [08:29] alisonken1lap: ah, what's the deal with 'square' [08:29] adrien: sweet =) [08:29] phrag: ? [08:29] huludesktop? [08:29] Flash Player "Square" Preview Release [08:30] the version: 10.*2* [08:30] I guess [08:30] or second try [08:30] ah - yep, thyat's what they're calling it [08:30] 10.2BETA [08:30] Player "Square" (codename). Flash Player "Square" enables 64-bit and enhanced Internet Explorer 9 support... guess that answers my question [08:30] a fork of flash player tho? seems wierd [08:30] well, it's from adobe's site, so don't know about "fork" [08:30] janemba (~cacao@unaffiliated/janemba) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:31] "spork" would probably be a better codename [08:31] yeh, abobe forked themselves =P [08:31] haha [08:31] janemba (~cacao@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:31] janemba (~cacao@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Changing host [08:31] janemba (~cacao@unaffiliated/janemba) joined ##slackware. [08:31] because they tried to spoon us [08:31] urg, i can't think of anything worse [08:32] adobe remind me of filthy perverts [08:32] those who steal your tubes? [08:33] abuse the tube [08:33] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:33] right.. better do some more work =P [08:34] what? work? :o [08:34] woh3 (will@nv-71-2-72-53.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [08:35] Action: adrien just had a (big) beer actually [08:35] asarch (~asarch@187.132.134.251) joined ##slackware. [08:35] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [08:35] something I like on adobe's posts is that linux is mentionned very quickly, often before windows =) [08:37] kukukk (~dvorak@188.24.67.132) joined ##slackware. [08:38] pete` (~user@027.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:39] how is the state of gnash and... [08:39] I built gnash several times in the past week. 0.8.8 still sucks [08:39] lightspark [08:40] that needs pulseaudio among other things iirc [08:40] aw, that's a shame.. i've been hoping that gained traction and stablity [08:40] And lightspark needs to get alsa support. SO far, it requires pulseaudio. WOrk is underway to add alsa [08:40] newer lightsparks shouldn't require pulseaudio [08:40] cool... i'd love to rid dependance of adobe [08:40] adrien: _future_ lightspark perhaps [08:40] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.0.96.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:40] But yesterday's git version did not have alsa support [08:41] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODU5MQ [08:41] I know [08:41] But that is a w.i.p. [08:41] By the time Lightspark 0.4.5 is released this new audio framework should have greater maturity. [08:41] w.i.p ? [08:41] Yes [08:41] right, http://allievi.sssup.it/techblog/?p=597 states that other audio backends are possible for lightspark, not that they are currently ready [08:41] no compute [08:41] work in progress [08:42] oh sorry =P [08:42] Action: alienBOB inserts a dime into phrag's brain [08:42] tilt [08:42] phrag: get FF4 BETA and watch html5 videos on youtube, no flash required. WOOT ;) [08:42] i've been in DB hell this morning.. all my brain are belong to work =P [08:42] kickback: nice =) [08:42] adrien: the audio plugin framework is there... but there are currently no plugins in that framework. [08:43] Get VLC and load a youtube URL... no browser required [08:43] can someone please pastebin ~/.kde/share/kde4/services/nsplugin.desktop ? thanks [08:43] if i was any good at dev, i'd offer to help, but alas [08:43] but lightspark's main problem is that it lacks most libraries/functions provided by flash [08:43] Do you even need FF4 beta? I thought you could watch those videos without flash in current firefox with m.youtube.com [08:43] Action: mrcarrot is watching youtube without flash thanks to greasemonkey and a script called "youtube without flash auto" [08:43] oh, that's cool alienBOB ! [08:43] it can run AS3, but it doesn't provide the libs [08:43] alienBOB: but that would require flash, right? [08:43] vlc is the awesome [08:43] kickback: nope [08:43] kickback: no, [08:43] should use flv codec [08:43] VLC can do that all by itself [08:43] oh? [08:43] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:44] phrag: is it a proprietary codec? [08:44] probably ffmpeg, not vlc [08:44] or some other appp [08:45] kickback: i think so [08:45] http://osflash.org/flv [08:46] phrag: k thanks. gotta go now [08:46] o/ =) [08:46] btw, if i install the osflash, it should work on xine, too, right? [08:46] i gotta write some .spec files =/ [08:47] VLC plays youtube as H.264 video [08:47] o/ [08:47] kickback (~kickback@122.163.214.26) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:48] sudor (~unknown@151.95.197.88) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:50] the more applications that come out with only pulse support and make it a necessary depend the more I dislike Pulse :| [08:50] I think only Lightspark and Mangler do that though :/ [08:51] Srbo (~Srbo@pd95c4a4c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [08:51] Srbo (~Srbo@pd95c4a4c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [08:53] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.0.96.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:53] New flashplayer "square" out, great improvement over the last one. 64-bit 100% supported. [08:55] Reducer (~reducer@g226105200.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [09:00] not 100% but much better [09:01] for instance, on youtube, the progress bar and the video stopped updating last night [09:01] flash is dying... as is bsd [09:01] Neither [09:01] anything else controversial i could come out with? [09:01] not all of the bsds [09:02] Slobad: try vi(m) vs. emacs [09:02] vim :) [09:02] mrcarrot, I was just making ludicrous statements. Thought I am curious as to which ones you think are on the way out. [09:02] vi vs vim - Who uses the vs editor? [09:02] >_> [09:03] Action: mrcarrot is using both vim and bsd [09:03] if it wasn't for the lack os flash and x64 nv drivers I' [09:03] would use FreeBSD lol [09:04] another workday ended... see you later! [09:04] mrcarrot (lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) left ##slackware. [09:04] kk [09:04] I see nothing wrong with Slackware you traitorous scallywags! :-) [09:05] Animeking: Both flash and nvidia drivers work on FreeBSD/amd64. [09:05] adamk, ehm, noo.. flash do not work (without linux-crosscompile) .. [09:05] You need linux emulation, wine, gnash, swfdec or lightspark [09:05] So? [09:06] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [09:06] nvidia 64 bit drivers are non-existant [09:06] Wrong. [09:06] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:06] Okay [09:06] have fun proving me wrong. [09:06] :P [09:06] never a wise move - the linux layers are dreadful to compile scratch and cause a fair few problems as they interfere [09:06] Animeking: They've been available for months now. [09:07] And here's your proof: http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd-x64-256.53-driver.html [09:07] Hmm [09:07] I'll be damned [09:08] No, you'll just be wrong. [09:08] Animeking, boom! :-D [09:08] Hmph [09:08] nvision_ (~nvision@e179133178.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [09:08] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [09:08] Animeking, don't had a paddy... it's happened to the best of us... well not the best... but the ones who are trying :-P [09:09] linXea: BTW, there's no compiling anything when you install flash on FreeBSD amd64. Not sure where this "dreadful to compile scratch" is coming from. [09:10] meant running linux-apps in freeBSD in general.. not specifically flash [09:10] There's still no compiling anything. [09:11] :/ [09:11] And I've never had a "fair few problems" or any sort of interference. [09:11] So I'm really not sure wtf you'r talking about :-) [09:11] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [09:11] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:12] Wow, I didn't have an issue for being proven wrong but the rest was rather annoying :/ [09:14] guess you haven't used freeBSD very much then.. mixing BSD and linux like that usually/eventually turn into problems [09:14] newslacker (~root@75-121-189-49.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [09:15] I use FreeBSD almost exclusively at work, with a number of linux apps. [09:15] ahem /at work/ [09:15] Did you have to set it up? D: [09:15] hello, some hours ago i couldn't install tor from the source, because the libevent path hasn't been found with the ./configure script automatically. mancha told me that i haven't seen the config flag to set the libdir manually, but is there any way to build libevent with a flag so that after compiling it's automatically founded by other ./configure scripts? [09:15] Animeking: Yes. [09:15] Okay then >_>;; scratch that [09:15] lol [09:17] Seriously, if you don't want to use FreeBSD for some reason, that's fine. But there's no reason to spread misinformation about it. [09:18] :/...I'm not spreading misinformation... [09:18] And I have often confronted people spreading misinformation about Slackware on other channels. [09:18] You said that flash didn't work and x64 nvidia drivers weren't available :-) [09:19] THat wasn't on purpose...(the x64 nvidia drivers) but I do not consider a linux compatibility layer being as FLASH WORKING ON FReeBSD [09:20] it doesn't matter whether you consider it or not, frankly. I boot into FreeBSD and flash works. [09:20] So you were spreading misinformation. [09:20] In any case, this is way OT for here. [09:20] Wellthen, lets agree to disagree and stop talking about it :/ [09:21] Action: Reducer is getting some fresh coffee [09:24] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:24] Animeking, it is not like it is emulation. FreeBSD is designed to run non-freebsd *NIX binaries [09:25] I see, I see :/ [09:26] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-48.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:26] Animeking, Linux can't do that :P [09:26] Uh-huh? :\ [09:27] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [09:27] linx can actually run java and windows apps and possibly anything [09:27] (much lika sheebang) [09:28] adrien, I mean run binaries from other *nix systems [09:28] rah, have one finger unusable right now, pita for typing [09:28] Window apps only run through wine and java is designed to be 'cross-platform' through the Java Virtual Machine though? o_O [09:28] mario (~mario@orion.slackverse.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:28] linux can but you have toprovide the environment [09:28] Animeking: not what I meant [09:29] basically, you can ./foo.exe in console and it'll start it [09:29] no need to'wine foo.exe' [09:30] i checked the config.h after ./configure in libevent-1.4.14b, but i couldn't find where the libdir has been set. [09:31] pete` (~user@007.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:32] it's written on stdout iirc [09:33] anyone up for a scripting challenge? [09:34] alphageek: shoot but be wrned that I can't type [09:34] should learn dvorak [09:35] toying with ideas using extended attributes. thing is, I want a clean way to detect if the filesystem currently being manipulated supports them (specifically, is mounted with 'user_xattr') [09:35] mario (~mario@orion.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [09:35] note 'clean way'. creating a temp file & twiddling it is out [09:36] pete` (~user@007.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:36] mount options [09:36] ? [09:36] as is seeing an existing file & attempting to twiddle it (this can fail if said file is mode '-w') [09:36] yep. the end result is that I want to look at how the fs is mounted [09:37] the challenge is getting from filename to mountpoint. there's no guarantee the filename will contain a full, absolute path [09:38] there's a call for that [09:38] maybe only in C though [09:38] or, use df on the file [09:39] asarch (~asarch@187.132.134.251) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:39] df is clunky, but the only approach I'd found so far. I was hoping I'd overlooked something [09:39] a friend of mine looked into that recently, dunno what he webnt for in the end [09:40] I should stop typin maybe$ [09:48] mount | grep -q $(df /path/to/test | sed -n '/dev/,/^$/{s, .*,,p}').*user_xattr ; echo $? [09:48] woot, I suppose [09:49] Action: XGizzmo head explodes. [09:49] Nick change: xchg_charrr -> xchg [09:49] never said it would be pretty :) [09:49] :) [09:50] [erik@helium ~]$ ~/notes/snippets/xattr / [09:50] win [09:51] [erik@helium ~]$ ~/notes/snippets/xattr /data/ [09:51] Channel flood from alphageek -- kicking [09:51] fail [09:51] alphageek kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [09:51] alphageek (rooot@76-10-168-212.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [09:51] touchy, touchy [09:51] yay, I got my 1TB hdd back [09:51] \o/ [09:53] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:55] KaMii: same brand? [09:55] ya [09:56] madbear (~dude@c-bc2de655.09-14-6b73641.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:57] hackeron (~hackeron@109-170-137-116.xdsl.murphx.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:57] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-77.viapori.fi) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:58] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-77.viapori.fi) joined ##slackware. [09:59] hackeron (~hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:03] hrm... ata2.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xec) [10:03] ata2.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, err_mask=0x4) [10:04] what does that mean? [10:04] fdisk -l does not see the 1 TB drive :S [10:08] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:08] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [10:09] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [10:09] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.0.96.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Read error: No route to host [10:10] fail? [10:10] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Client Quit [10:10] hey guys, and sed/ack skills ? [10:10] nak [10:10] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.95.243.130) joined ##slackware. [10:11] yak [10:11] madbear (~dude@c-5d2ee655.09-14-6b73641.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [10:11] i have a file, which has some columns, once grepped for the correct lines.. i want to sed the 5th column and echo it to the 5th column [10:11] erm, 6tgh column* [10:11] dont tell me they gave me another bad drive [10:12] so you have repeated columns now or did you want to swap 5 & 6? [10:12] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:12] well, actually, i am trying to write a spec file [10:13] to include a load of custom lamp configuration files we store in /usr/config/ [10:13] thats fine [10:13] wonder if i can just install /usr/config/* [10:13] a line has columns: a b c d e f g h [10:13] what do you want it to look like? [10:13] instead of specifying *every* single file in the dir [10:14] a b c d e /e [10:14] basically [10:14] oh, I am also always getting /etc/rc.d/rc.avahidaemon: line 35: /usr/sbin/avahi-daemon: No such file or directory (I get 4 errors about no such file or directory on avahi related stuff) [10:14] there are only 5 columns, ever? [10:14] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:14] echo a b c d e f g h | awk '{print $1,$2,$3,$4,$5,"/"$5}' [10:14] a b c d e /e [10:14] ok, got the drive working, I guess I didnt have it plugged in all the way [10:14] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:14] if only 5 space-delimited colimn s i'd use awk [10:15] cheesy [10:15] but it works :) [10:15] alphageek: that would work =) [10:15] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:15] thanks guys... i might try the redhat guys and see if i can simplify this spec [10:17] what FS do you guys like to use for your /home partition? [10:17] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:17] KaMii, ext4 [10:17] I'm rather fond of ext4 [10:17] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [10:18] oh, i forgot *every* other linux channel is not nearly as helpfull [10:18] and when setting up a new drive do you just runn mkfs.ext4 /dev/foo [10:18] or do you run some extra paramaters? [10:18] read the man page, and let us know ;) [10:18] different FS can potentially require different flags to mkfs [10:19] 'mkfs.ext4 /dev/foo' is the syntax used by the slack installer, if that helps [10:19] thrice`: i usually just do mkfs.ext4 /dev/foo but I just want to know what you guys normally do, the man page does not tell me what you guys like to do [10:19] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:20] women [10:21] can't live with'm, can't shoot'm [10:21] :) [10:21] legally [10:21] your a good example of why some animals eat their young [10:22] #rhel and #centos are shit for support [10:22] why is it ##slackware is the only linux channel that has any decent support ? [10:23] mishehu (~mishehu@rakdanit.shavedgoats.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:23] phrag: centos is terrible on this network, yes. [10:23] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:23] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:24] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:24] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:24] simple: because they're still trying to figure out how to mount audio cds (redhat), obfuscate scripts &/or use software at least 3 versions stale (debian), or just waiting for their machine to stop compiling stuff (gentoo) [10:25] have I stuck pins in enough eyes yet? :) [10:25] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-84-55.w92-155.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:26] anyhow, off to do some IRL stuff [10:26] Action: alphageek & [10:26] is it common for most brand new HDDs to have some bad blocks? [10:28] KaMii: all HDD's have them. Manufacturers blacklist them before selling the hard drive. [10:28] KaMii: in fact, that is why no two drives are identical in size. [10:28] pastebin.ca/1942118 [10:28] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:29] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:29] KaMii: return the drive. [10:29] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:29] this is the second drive [10:29] KaMii: in fact, get another brand. Don't get a refurb [10:29] i just returned the last one [10:29] its not a refurb [10:29] its suppose to be new [10:29] KaMii: it's refurbished. [10:30] how can you tell? [10:30] they told me it was new not a refurb [10:30] madbear (~dude@c-5d2ee655.09-14-6b73641.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:30] KaMii: because that drive is defective, and will die on you early. [10:31] madbear (~dude@c-bc2de655.09-14-6b73641.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [10:31] how early? [10:31] this sucks, two bad drives from this company? [10:31] KaMii: when you 'swap' or 'return' drives, it's common to ship back a refurbished drive, and not admitting it to the customer. [10:31] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:31] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-91-10.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [10:31] I blame the company not WD, because the company told me they get A LOT of returns on bad HDDs [10:32] I've had ONE WD fail on me, in 15 years [10:32] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [10:32] hrm... never buy fromo JMEData.se [10:32] at least, dont buy a HDD [10:32] they will give you only bad ones [10:33] unless you order (and pay buck$ for it) enterprise drives, you're getting the leftovers [10:33] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) joined ##slackware. [10:33] well then they should not say its new [10:34] leftovers does not mean used - leftovers mean the ones that didn't pass the "works everytime" tests at the factory [10:34] enterprise drives require 24x7x365 and heavy usage test [10:34] still. Many companies do send refurbs. [10:34] so these errors are common and probably ok? [10:34] desktop drives are the ones that didn't pass the enterprise tests [10:35] sofar I have not really run many more errors [10:35] KaMii: IMO, I would not store a single valuable file on that drive. [10:35] Slobad (~slobad23@92.17.235.77) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:35] as long as teh bad blocks are less than 0.01% of the drive new, then it shouldn't be a probelm [10:35] it was just the first 0.02% of the drive had those errors [10:35] all right then. [10:35] bad blocks in the first part of the drive are problems, true [10:35] ya, the errors were only at the beginning and didnt last long [10:36] and like I said, the manufacturer's tests will weed those out, and the customer should never see those. [10:36] can I blacklist the bad parts? [10:36] or is it already doing that for me? I ran mkfs.ext4 -c /dev/sdb1 [10:37] KaMii: oh, as they are found, they will be. But the fact that you see those either indicates improper testing or imminent failure cascades. [10:37] well this drive is not going to be my backup drive, its just my multimedia and games drive [10:37] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [10:37] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:37] lets hope for improper testing [10:38] because... blah, we are moving soon and I cant return this if it fails [10:38] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@201.210.190.118) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:38] like next week we move to the USA.... [10:38] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) joined ##slackware. [10:38] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@201.210.190.118) joined ##slackware. [10:38] so i will be offline for awhile, we have to go to my grandparents house and they dont even have internet, and all our stuff is being put on a boat and i wont have my computer for along time [10:40] troy_ (~troy@dsl-69-172-104-22.acanac.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:41] trhodes (~trhodes@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:42] vbatts (~vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:42] anyone written .spec files for building RPM's before ? 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[10:46] you should use logrotate [10:46] alphageek: also, abs_path=$(cd $path && pwd) [10:47] crap... i tried to open it accidentally and now my 8 gigs of ram just got maxed out [10:47] hrhrhr [10:47] bpe, less, dd parts of it [10:47] you could look at it with more instead [10:47] head and tail too [10:48] im trying to kill it but everything is swapping out so I am getting stuck [10:48] or less [10:48] so how do I logrotate? [10:48] because more is ... [10:48] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [10:48] nooo, i think my system just halted [10:48] TClayton (~tony@unaffiliated/tclayton) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:48] im frozen [10:48] boot from install disk, mount your drive with /var/log, then mv messages messages.0 [10:48] then reboot [10:49] thrice` (thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) joined ##slackware. [10:49] it's OK [10:49] OOM will trigger soon [10:49] should kill firefox first [10:49] Dominian (dominian@about/linux/staff/dominian) joined ##slackware. [10:51] vbatts (~vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [10:51] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [10:52] got it back [10:52] i thought I would never max out my ram, but i found a way to do it [10:53] been there done that [10:53] so how do I keep these log files from getting so large? [10:53] BlackGoat (~freontrip@p146x211.tceq.state.tx.us) joined ##slackware. [10:53] one is 33.0 GiB [10:53] there should be a logrotate script somewhere [10:54] I have 54.9.GiB in log files [10:54] that just seems overikill [10:55] ./etc/cron.daily should have a logrotate script for rotating logs [10:55] KaMii, how long have been using that system without noticing? [10:55] does that mean I have some huge issues with my computer and its constantly writing errors to log /var/messages [10:55] Depends on what it is writing [10:55] this system has only been in use for about 2 weeks [10:55] its my brand new system [10:55] did you delete the large log or just rename it? [10:56] I didnt change any log files [10:56] brute force attacks usually [10:56] but simply "tail /var/log/whatever" [10:56] well i wonder if the log files got so huge from me running all thoses tests on that 1 TB HDD which was bad [10:57] "head /var/log/" and see what the date is - that will tell you how long ago the logfile was started [10:57] btw, any tool that would output stats of most common errors? that sounds quite doable with awk too (the same way I generated IRC stats at some point) [10:57] september 12 was the start [10:57] so in three days it wronte 9 gigs? [10:58] that's what it sound like - good chance it's logging crack attempts [10:58] chinese people stealing your disk space! [10:58] oh, i see what it was logging [10:59] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:59] it was the HDD failures and my bad kernel issues [10:59] "less /var/log/" to see what the most are [10:59] remember I was having a lot of issues with my custom kernels [10:59] these log files are from both the kernel issues and HDD issues [11:00] can I just delete the log files? [11:00] or is that bad [11:00] you can delete it [11:00] Delete and reboot [11:00] you can, but make sure you also restart log daemon [11:00] its not a historical record or anything [11:00] :D [11:00] well I do have to fix a few other errors that I get on reboot or my log file will fill up again [11:00] TClayton (~tony@nc-69-69-213-8.dyn.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [11:01] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [11:01] I am always getting /etc/rc.d/rc.avahidaemon: line 35: /usr/sbin/avahi-daemon: No such file or directory (I get 4 errors about no such file or directory on avahi related stuff) [11:02] rc.local calling stuff you no longer have? [11:02] chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.avahidaemon [11:02] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [11:02] rc.local calls for rc.avahidaemon file which no longer exist [11:02] KaMii: forgot to merge all .new files after an upgrade? [11:03] or no, god damn i'm retarded its avahidaemon file thats complaining :P [11:03] KaMii: run logrotate: logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf - it will rotate yout logs - do not delete them - examine them and fix problems [11:03] ignore me >.< [11:04] intosh: she already knows what the errors are - drive related errors [11:05] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5F1E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:06] I need to delete them and then have them restart, i am seeing there are other errors in here also, and Its hard for me to see what they all are, because they are mixed with the hdd errors [11:06] i have some NVIDIA stuff, some VBOX stuff [11:06] alicephilippa: so she should change HD or reconfigure sysylog to log kernel related errors to /dev/null - just my 5 cents :) [11:07] blah, this system is looking like its totally messed up and unsecure [11:08] no system is secure when connected to the network :) [11:09] intosh: please... for my sanity, those little statements only provoke [11:09] but from what you are writeing here, first problem is fluffy hardware [11:10] intosh: I had a bad 1TB HDD, I replaced it. [11:13] Ijust sent 7 boxes (20 drives each) back to seagate to refurb for me - some of them are coming back this week [11:13] spectre (~kyle@pool-98-109-75-137.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:13] i dont think I will beable to contiune this badblock test..... my HDD is running out of space from the logfiles its creating [11:14] this HDD must be bad, its already generated over 16 gigs in the /var/log/messages [11:15] lots of I/O errors [11:15] maybe it's the memory [11:15] i had a bunch of random io errors last time my servers memory went bad [11:15] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:15] so now i have bad ram? [11:15] i dunno, it's a posibillity [11:16] ffs, im starting to hate this company i bought from [11:16] paste some of them somewhere [11:16] run memtest on the machine and you'll know in the matter of minutes [11:16] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.101.81) joined ##slackware. [11:16] albeit memtest86 should be run for at least hours to get significant results. [11:16] thumbs, even when chips light the screen up all red? :P [11:17] benster (~the@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-odgdokslqfkumema) left irc: Quit: changing servers [11:17] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:17] kslen: you can have an early warning, sometimes. [11:18] saTTY (~saTTY@218.248.80.53) joined ##slackware. [11:20] pastebin.ca/1942142 [11:21] man memtest No manual entry for memtest [11:21] KaMii: it's not a command. [11:21] KaMii: download the livecd, boot with it, and watch the screen. [11:22] If memtest86 starts spewing error messages, you've found the problem. If that's not it, either the drive controller's having a psychobilly freakout, or the drive itself is kaputski. [11:22] peekay (~Phil@77.246.75.2) joined ##slackware. [11:22] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-77.viapori.fi) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:23] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-77.viapori.fi) joined ##slackware. [11:23] ok, its not the memory, I know that [11:23] its the drive [11:23] 2 bad HDDs [11:23] foldy (~foldy@ip-85-160-81-11.eurotel.cz) joined ##slackware. [11:23] hey. i was looking for some place which lists the packages that are available on the slackware iso. i wanted to know which one contains xorg and gnome. [11:24] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-77.viapori.fi) left irc: Client Quit [11:24] errors are quite clear what's rong [11:24] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-77.viapori.fi) joined ##slackware. [11:24] gnome is not on any disc, if you want gnome i believe you go to gnomeslackbuild.org [11:24] troy_ (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [11:24] rong/wrong [11:24] well that company is going to get a very nasty fone call from me tomorrow [11:25] aw. it used to be a long time ago :< what about kde? [11:25] kde is on the disc [11:25] hmm... I wonder when SSD drives will be an norm [11:25] Peekay ; packages.slackware.com [11:25] peekay, for x.org, mount the iso (mkdir iso && mount -o loop slackware.iso iso) and "ls iso/slackware/x/*.txz" for a list of x.org packages [11:25] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-77.viapori.fi) left irc: Client Quit [11:25] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-77.viapori.fi) joined ##slackware. [11:25] peekay: See thrice' for x.org package listing advice. Gnome's in a "roll your own" state of affairs, and I say bully. [11:26] foldy (~foldy@ip-85-160-81-11.eurotel.cz) left irc: Client Quit [11:26] saTTY (~saTTY@218.248.80.53) left irc: Quit: used WLIrc [11:27] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:27] saTTY (~saTTY@218.248.80.53) joined ##slackware. [11:28] thanx [11:28] Ok [11:28] so when will this HDD fail? [11:29] now [11:30] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:30] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:30] KaMii: in /var/log/sysylog there are lots of sector errors - it already faild - backup stuff - some data might be unreadable [11:30] peekay (~Phil@77.246.75.2) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:31] intosh: there is no data on it [11:31] its a brand new drive I was trying to put a FS on it [11:31] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:31] little wired [11:31] brand new or the same unit as before? [11:31] KaMii: could be days, weeks, months, years. [11:32] if it was the same unit as before, they re-packaged it [11:32] millenia and milliseconds too [11:32] KaMii: but expect data loss. [11:32] do you have RAID controler or something? [11:32] no i didnt raid anything [11:34] benster (ben@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-apiqqtehtrgkygld) joined ##slackware. [11:34] when you do not access or mount that device there should be no errors - and I expect you do nat access empty device often :) [11:34] yeah, you're Swedish. The Vikings (Norwegian) did most of the raiding up thataway. [11:34] hahaha :P [11:35] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:36] intosh (~tosh@gate.makolab.pl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:37] BlackGoat (~freontrip@p146x211.tceq.state.tx.us) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:37] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [11:38] could it be a bad mobo or stat controller? [11:39] s/stat/sata [11:39] damn Vikings did it [11:40] So, everytime I install nvidia drivers [11:40] I have to use KERNEL="mykernelversionhere" (without the qoutations) and then run the slackbuild with all the necessary files, the ninstall the drivers :/ [11:41] Action: Animeking is already doing so. [11:41] When i log out from xfce it land me in nomans land [11:42] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@216.23.240.4) joined ##slackware. [11:42] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:42] so is it bad drives or do I have some bad hardware somewhere, like SATA or mobo or whatever... just seems odd to have two brand new 1 TB HDDs arrive DOA [11:42] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [11:43] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:47] thrice` (thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [11:47] thrice` (thrice@slackadelic.com) joined ##slackware. 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[11:55] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [11:55] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:55] Reducer (~reducer@g226105200.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:55] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:57] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:57] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:58] saTTY (saTTY@218.248.80.53) left ##slackware. [12:00] Animeking (~root@adsl-64-181-223.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:00] I'm a bit confused [12:00] uh oh... i think its memory issues [12:00] Are slackbuilds the only form of package installation? Or are there others, since it seems pkgtools is only for already installed applications [12:01] pci 0000:00:00.0: address space collision: [mem 0xe0000000-0xfffffff 64bit] already in use [12:01] I 'know' that the current package system for slack doesn't auto-fix depends or install them and that has to be done manually but I am not sure how to do that :/ [12:01] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:01] and I get a bunch of can't reserve [mem foo 64bit] errors [12:01] install a package, find the binary, then "ldd " to see what it depends on [12:02] if it's not listed in the pacakge notes [12:02] disabling [mem foo] because it overlaps foo [12:02] sdi (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sdi) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:03] a lot of system io errors [12:03] these are all from the livecd boot [12:04] so does that mean I have bad ram not bad HDD? [12:04] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.95.243.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [12:04] good possibility [12:05] Bad wiring perhaps? Since you have nothing but problems, not just with this HD but with a previous one, AND with the memory [12:06] this is not good, we move next week and its not enough time to get the hardware exchanged [12:06] sdi (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sdi) joined ##slackware. [12:06] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:06] bad wiring on the MOBO? [12:06] or powersupply? [12:06] overheating issues? [12:07] good airflow? [12:07] its not overheating at all [12:07] no blocked air flows? [12:07] no [12:07] josemanuel (~josemanue@168.252.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:07] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.101.81) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:07] bad power supply? [12:07] I always monitor temp in conky [12:07] could be a powersupply.... idk how to check to see what is wrong [12:08] how much did it cost? [12:08] i bought the computer in parts [12:08] grazymax (~grazymax@host34-159-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:08] the powersupply came with the case and it was very cheap [12:09] did that once, I know for sure it damaged components (not saying that is your current problem, only saying it could) [12:10] john_dee (~id@95-29-14-98.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:10] how do I test? [12:14] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@216.23.240.4) left irc: Quit: Erp. So that's what kill %1 does! [12:15] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:17] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:17] missyrissy (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [12:17] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:18] Nick change: missyrissy -> happyhappy [12:19] pastebin.ca/1942187 [12:19] KaMii, does the machine lock at random? [12:19] thats the livecd /var/log/messages [12:19] no it never locks [12:19] then i wouldnt worry too much about the psu. [12:20] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:20] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:20] it sounds to me like the memory because you get random io errors, random to the point where errors are generated on the drive you are using when the error occurs [12:21] if the memory chips were fataly wounded, your machine would freeze completely at random [12:21] so they gave me bad ram not bad HDDs [12:21] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:21] i have no evidence, but this is what intuition tells me [12:21] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:21] run memtest for a while and see if it's correct [12:21] how do I do that? [12:21] i tried man memtest but there is no manual [12:22] it's a binary you can run through grub [12:22] memtest runs at boot time, like a kernel [12:22] it's just a program that starts on boot [12:22] (in place of a kernel) [12:22] grazymax (~grazymax@host141-154-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:22] KaMii, run memtest it's intuitive. [12:22] so how do I get it to run for awhile? [12:22] start it and watch it go :) [12:22] Action: KaMii does not use grub [12:22] select extended test [12:22] KaMii: reboot the computer with the memtest86 cd in it [12:22] when you boot into memtest it starts testing immediately [12:23] memtest86 cd? [12:23] v4nelle (~van@79.107.253.251) joined ##slackware. [12:23] http://www.memtest.org/ [12:23] Yup [12:23] Go to sleep after you put the cd in and run it. [12:23] you can just write it to a usb stick [12:23] I think many live CDs and install CDs include it. [12:23] or that, too. [12:23] Use CD. [12:23] or boot pretty much any distro installer. i know ubuntu has memtest as an option at boot [12:23] Don't use USB. Some mobo don't roll like that. [12:23] use whatever is easiest for you :) [12:24] so its on the slackware 13.1 x64 dvd? [12:24] as i have it on my handy dandy usb stick, i havent looked at slackwares installer, so please don't shoot me for cussing [12:24] rob0, psh, be happy, roll CD. [12:24] KaMii, http://www.memtest86.com/download.html [12:25] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:25] there be cd, usb and floppy images for you to write on your device of preference [12:25] hehe, but my netbook doesn't even have a CD drive! [12:25] cds are so 90s [12:25] pardon, 80s [12:25] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:26] x) [12:26] That's why I go CD. Nostalgic. [12:26] :P [12:26] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:26] rob0: my laptop had a CD drive, but I took it out [12:26] do you also wear pastel colors, have long curly hair and wear ubertight pants? [12:26] :P [12:27] kslen, no because I wasn't born in the 80s. [12:27] But I do sport urban clothes. [12:27] ^^ [12:27] So loose pants, bandana, pretty Eckos, pretty Sean Johns, etc. [12:28] so [12:28] to install a package [12:28] And I use word like "werd" and "sup". :p [12:28] \o/ [12:28] I Need to download a tgz and use installpkg on it? [12:28] Animeking, mostly yes. [12:28] i still dont know how to start memtest [12:28] KaMii, burn memtest to a CD. [12:28] Put CD into system. [12:28] there is also finding the necessary depends... lol [12:28] Reboot, watch the magic. [12:28] Animeking, not anymore. [12:28] Action: kslen points at happyhappy, the clearly superior typer [12:28] so its not on the slackware dvd [12:29] Huh, not anymore? [12:29] KaMii, I don't think it is. [12:29] KaMii, http://www.memtest86.com/download.html [12:29] I burned memtest a long time ago. [12:29] it's a tinytiny program [12:29] downloads before you click the link! [12:29] :p [12:29] Dah, that's fast! :] [12:30] Animeking: well, .tgz/txz packages typically come with slackware [12:30] omfg, is this day not over yet [12:30] apart from a few reliable sources, you'd use a slackbuild to build the package on your machine [12:30] phrag: it is =) [12:30] 4 minutes.. [12:30] worst day ever [12:30] You mean the TGZ's that came with the DVD? Or do you mean that the TGZ carry the depends? [12:30] ='( [12:30] What happened phrag? [12:31] Wait, didn't ready our 2nd thing hold [12:31] just general crap, but thanks for caring =) [12:31] Slack builds, I actually got my nvidia drivers from slackbuild [12:32] Animeking: well, tgz/txz that come with the slackware dvd are good of course, but those coming from other places (apart from alienB0B and rworkma* mostly) aren't very good usually [12:32] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [12:32] cant i just run memtest while Im already in my system or do I have to only run it from a boot cd or usb and not beable to use my system [12:32] Ah [12:32] must boot it [12:33] and let it consume your system [12:33] for a while :P [12:33] So, is it just best if I don't know how to make my own slackbuild or if I can't find a slackbuild to just compile from source? [12:33] it needs raw read write access to the memory chips to do its thing [12:33] Animeking, what exactly do you need Slackware for? [12:33] What are you trying to do? [12:33] oh ok [12:33] KaMii, yep. GO burn it already. [12:33] Action: kslen nudges Kaapa [12:33] Nothing...:/ just want to install most of the software I want o_O;; [12:34] ah snap [12:34] *KaMii [12:34] WHy the heck do people ask that when I want to do something in my system :/ [12:34] Because Slackware comes with so much, you don't really want redundancy. [12:34] Ah [12:35] Japanese jazz is weirdddddd. [12:35] like 2 programs that do practically the same thing? [12:35] For the most part yes. [12:35] Like kcalc and xcalc does the same thing. [12:35] mmhmm [12:35] And I believe both can become scientific calculators. [12:37] how long do you recomment i run memtest? is an hour long enough? 30 minutes? [12:37] depends on how fast the errors shows up if there are any at all. [12:37] What about say, while GIMP can do the same thing what if I prefer krita? [12:38] You can use krita. [12:38] Mmhmm [12:39] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:39] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) left irc: Quit: And I can't put the needle in... [12:39] as soon as i see red numbers, i reboot and run it again to confirm. then i send an rma request to the vendor i bought the chip from mentioning the words "memtest" and "red" and you should see a rma number show up a short while later [12:39] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [12:40] :] [12:40] kslen is correct. [12:40] fried memory is probably the most common return item. i have sent back so much memory over the years its not even funny to think about the hours wasted debugging thinking it wasnt memory.. [12:40] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [12:40] But I don't see any slackbuilds?? [12:40] Animeking, slackbuilds.org [12:40] thats where I was [12:40] Apology - http://www.slackbuild.org/ [12:40] all I got was opengtl when looking for it lol [12:41] krita is already installed in slackware. [12:41] Ah [12:42] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) joined ##slackware. [12:42] Did I need to install KDE? Because I decided not too since I sort of gained a mild dislike of it after using it for a couple of months... lol [12:43] That depends. You might want to run KDE apps even if you don't run KDE itself. [12:44] Mmm [12:47] Animeking, KDE is installed with Slackware. Just do the full install. [12:47] but for that I'd need to install the whole DE? or is there a way to just get the specific parts necessary? [12:47] If you know what you're doing, sure. [12:47] ah :/ [12:47] Animeking: if you have the disk space, why not? [12:47] Action: Animeking shrugs. [12:49] Animeking sounds like me when i started out with slackware. total minimizer after battling with xp for resources for too long [12:49] What D: [12:49] yet, a full slackware install barely extends 50mb of memory when booted first time :P [12:49] and the os takes up 6.4 gb of space [12:49] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC34E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:50] so really, there's no reason not to go full. if it aint being used, it aint in memory. :) [12:50] Hmm :/ [12:50] Not me, for the most part I wanted to install full to avoid problems with dependency. [12:50] yes, that's what changed me around [12:50] The Slackware install may be about 5gb give or take but I have over 15000gb. [12:50] Space is not a problem with me. [12:50] first months of slackware for me was compiling dependencies from source, failing horribly [12:51] Wait maybe not that much but around that much. [12:51] and all along the dependencies were available on the iso, i just unticked stuff i didnt know much about :P [12:51] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:52] Haha I only unticked the biggest stuff that I knew I didn't want. After a while I didn't care. I have a system and my OCD, luckily, works with me. [12:52] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.mimer.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:52] heheh [12:52] so do I have to reinstall everything? [12:52] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:52] or just the packages [12:52] nah, you can just add the packages [12:54] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) joined ##slackware. [12:54] just reboot into the livedvd and its self-explanatory from there, eh? [12:54] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:55] Animeking, yep. Hope you made back up for anything you might need on your hard drive. It'll erase everything and install over it; [12:55] So no more Windows unless you plan to dual boot. [12:55] :P I already installed Slack, I just didn't get the KDE depends or anything [12:55] you can just installpkg iso/kde/* [12:55] Oh. [12:55] Yeah. [12:55] ls -la /var/log/packages will show you what is allready installed [12:55] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:55] Also I got class soon so I gotta go do my hair, nail, etc. Later folks. [12:55] Be happy. [12:56] if a package is already installed and you install it again, there will be two instances..i think [12:56] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:56] nothing kde or qt related is installed. [12:56] :'( I have a new 22" monitor for work.......... but have to use Outlook ! I feel ill! Seriously. [12:56] no - it just overwrites the current one and checks to see if there's a *.conf.new config file that matches the current *.conf fil [12:56] sorry, iso/slackware/kde/ [12:56] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:57] Hi Zordrak o/ [12:57] sup [12:57] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:58] alisonken1home, thanks for the correction. [12:59] remember, slackware is just tar.gz files packaged so when extracted at / they will be in their final locations [12:59] foldy (~foldy@mail.foldy.org) joined ##slackware. [12:59] installpkg iso/slackware/kde? ISO being the DVD? [12:59] the only difference is soft links and config files [12:59] iso being where the "slackware/*" tree is located [12:59] i have been confused as i have seen package_1 and package_2 listed in /var/log/packages/ [12:59] whether cd/dvd or a copy on your hard drive [12:59] Ah [13:00] if it has *-x86_64-1 and *-x86-2, then the -2 is an upgrade for that package that fixes a packaging link [13:00] mrcarrot (~lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) joined ##slackware. [13:00] or a packaging erro [13:00] error [13:01] good to know. :> [13:02] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:03] kewlo (~chatzilla@117.206.16.148) joined ##slackware. [13:03] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [13:03] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [13:03] hoi anyone from the united states of america [13:03] stop confusing each other people [13:03] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [13:04] lets be quiet and lets get all together [13:04] we good be together [13:04] you bring me the big megaman [13:04] newslacker (root@75-121-189-49.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [13:04] tim0z (~tim0z@ppp-94-69-253-198.home.otenet.gr) left irc: [13:04] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] could* [13:05] *yellow [13:05] yellow megaman [13:05] :D [13:05] O ye who believe! wine [13:06] hi do anybody knows about some slackware port to IA-64? [13:06] sushiyant (~hamed@unaffiliated/sushiyant) joined ##slackware. [13:06] google it [13:06] foldy: x86_64 is as close as you can get afaik [13:07] close but very far away [13:07] any atheist in here ? [13:07] never heard of any port to it [13:07] kewlo: but it's not the place to discuss religious topics [13:08] athiesm is the not religoin part [13:08] ha haaaaaaha [13:08] Zordrak, i dont need x86_64 but IA-64 (Itanium procesors) [13:08] everybody is 99% atheist [13:08] for real ? [13:08] :D [13:08] (no, seriously, not the right channel for that) [13:08] what am i 4% ? [13:09] KaMii, did you dye your hair? [13:09] I wanna dye my hair but never doen it before. Wonder how it is for long hair. [13:09] wrong channel too? [13:09] adrien, was trying to steer it away from religion./ [13:09] :D [13:10] i dont think god exist [13:10] both are offtopic =) [13:10] Nick change: happyhappy -> [hireme]rhisa [13:10] <[hireme]rhisa> adrien, nobody goes to war over hair. :) [13:10] mkv96 (~makaveli@S010600a2bc4a5271.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:10] if i have 2 patch files and i combine them together with cat, will they work properly with the patch command? [13:10] i'm hoping to patch with a single file rather use the 2 seperate files [13:10] fuck war man ... man what war and crap and shit fuck war [13:10] i have only done hilights [13:10] almost religion... vim is better than emacs and slackware better than ubuntu [13:10] screw war [13:10] [hireme]rhisa: I would :P [13:11] mkv96: why is it important not to use two files? [13:11] learn to hug your neigbour [13:11] memtest is 50% complete so far 0 errors [13:11] is alrighti [13:11] awesome [13:11] lol [13:11] the patches are related, so i was hoping to use one file.. not a big deal, but just wanted to see if it was possible [13:12] mkv96: should work, check the output anyway [13:12] so [13:12] if my memory is ok, then what would be the cause of all those IO errors during liveboot dvd? [13:12] So, is the DVD missing GNOME because GNOME is unpopular here, or? D: [13:12] hmmm... you can try it mkv96... let me know how it goes [13:12] but I don't know what would be the result if both patch touch the same files [13:12] Animeking: gnome was dropped from the distro [13:12] Animeking: because gnome made itself unpopular to maintainers [13:12] i have been using internet for a while now [13:12] yeah [13:12] version 10 was the last, iirc [13:12] XD [13:13] i wish i had another pc [13:13] what happened to santa claus [13:13] <[hireme]rhisa> adrien, rawr. [13:13] KaMii, it may be that the universe has sent you two doa hdds [13:13] he can put that up through my chimney [13:13] lol [13:13] thats really it [13:13] <[hireme]rhisa> kslen, absolute bad luck, I hope that's rare. [13:13] :( [13:14] another pc and i am good to go [13:14] :D [13:14] :( [13:14] [hireme]rhisa, i have to return pretty much every single product i order online before i get something that actually works. its very possible :P [13:14] well if memtest gives no errors I will unplug the HDD and boot the livecd dvd and see if those io errors comeback [13:15] technology has come a long way [13:15] isnt it ? [13:15] last time i ordered in laptops, i ordered two. the first one i opened which was "mine" in my head was faulty. 60c gpu at idle. [13:15] the other one which was "not mine", worked fine. [13:15] kewlo: Could you please so me a favor and shut up? [13:15] i have downloaded this documentry the connection [13:15] nice, at 60c that doubles as a toaster [13:15] jgeboski ..lol [13:15] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:16] shonudo, i swear, my lap was medium rare at one point [13:16] anyone here a fan of isaac asimov ? [13:16] i like issac asimov [13:16] i think we have another bot [13:16] KaMii: That or just a royal jack ass [13:17] coz i have readthis book .. which was called prelude to foundation [13:17] more seriously, the pace of offtopic messages here is quite tiring [13:17] both, those who put bots in here are jack asses [13:17] when i was young [13:17] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.101.81) joined ##slackware. [13:17] and it was very nice [13:17] shonudo: My cards are running at 65 and 64 C I've got bread on top of them :) [13:17] <[hireme]rhisa> kslen, I have never ever returned anything I ordered. [13:18] the universe is after me, i swear [13:18] well if this is just bad HDD then I can live with that, but if its not the HDD, then i have no idea what it could be if the memtest says everything is ok [13:18] _tecra (~fake.emai@70-36-146-98.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:18] i should do something exotic too [13:18] i cant think of any fucking think to do [13:18] KaMii: You been having a hell of a time with that computer [13:19] and all the errors have been IO ones [13:19] very orthodox people .. make me sick [13:19] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] define orthodox [13:19] so something is bad somewhere, and I don't know where [13:19] that is vvery simple [13:19] kinda quiet [13:19] :( [13:20] orthodox [13:20] alienBOB: if you are here can you please deal with this bot? [13:20] how many i have toldher not to wear extra short skirts [13:20] KaMii: Are you just trying to format the drive it's throwing some errors? [13:20] look where she have ended up now [13:20] :( [13:20] its not even that extra short [13:21] its just .. others wera a little longer [13:21] kamii, have you tried using another sata cable? [13:21] fucking cock sucking mother fuckers [13:21] jgeboski: ya I did mkfs.ext4 -c /dev/foo and i got over 36 gigs of errors [13:21] :( [13:21] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [13:21] what is this foo ? [13:21] i am kinda new to linux [13:22] i see foo [13:22] I pity the foo [13:22] kde.SlackBuild vs kde_extra.SlackBuild? [13:22] is this :( like a smaple file [13:22] shyko (~francisco@187.39.211.48) joined ##slackware. [13:22] shyko (~francisco@187.39.211.48) left irc: Changing host [13:22] shyko (~francisco@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [13:22] I did not try a different cable on this drive yet, cant remember if I did on the previous one [13:22] everytime i sweat .. i cant understand foo [13:23] wtf is going on in here? [13:23] annoying bot [13:23] It's a bot? [13:23] Lemme go login to slackboy... [13:23] lets hope so, if not, than its a retarded moron with no life [13:23] kewlo: You're just a series of markov chains, aren't you? [13:23] KaMii, i also saw earlier that your not sure your power supply is good enough, have you tried using a power calculator to see what wattage your system needs? [13:23] eviljames .. i dont understand that [13:24] ya, I ran one at ASUS website, and it said im just under the limit [13:24] kewlo: No? Why not? English is a second, third language for you? Are you using Google Translate? [13:24] vbatts (~vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] english is not my first tounge [13:24] ahh, but they do have nonsense in your first tongue? [13:25] i was loling man.. wait [13:25] ok what ? [13:25] becoming seriouys . [13:26] kewlo: Start making sense or taste the power of slackboy. [13:26] well, I've noticed that there's been a lot of nonsense flowing from you, even though at least one person has an actual on-topic, slackware-related issue. [13:26] I assume you've read the very first thing in the topic: called "Channel Guidelines" [13:26] ? [13:26] oh sorry about that eviljames [13:27] man i am still nobody [13:27] :( [13:27] well i would say my issue is more hardware related, but I do run slackware so thats why im asking it in here, and most people in here know my system [13:27] Roin_ (~florian@p5B2BC3E2.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:27] Action: eviljames does a lastlog on KaMii to see what's up [13:27] that sounded like the black guy fom themovie [13:27] almighty black guy [13:28] <[hireme]rhisa> kewlo, if you want to mess around, go to my site rhisa.com, take your shot. [13:28] KaMii [13:28] <[hireme]rhisa> I'm going to class now, later all. [13:28] I used to think this was a distro to build exactly how you want (not saying it isn't good, I Mean similar in ideal to arch and gentoo...which has its own downsides too) Although this is 'simpler' than either >_>;; [13:28] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC34E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Disconnected by services [13:28] Nick change: Roin_ -> Roin [13:28] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@unaffiliated/kamii' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:28] KaMii kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: %3d From one bot to another, get lost! [13:28] KaMii: take HHD out and boot on usb key or dvd [13:28] uhh wut? [13:28] lmao [13:28] hahaha [13:28] hahaha [13:28] tabfail? :P [13:28] ._. [13:28] I think 100% tabfail hahahahah [13:28] poor KaMii :( [13:28] SHIT! [13:28] <[hireme]rhisa> Animeking, look into Linux from Scratch. [13:29] <[hireme]rhisa> x) It has happened to me before. [13:29] Action: [hireme]rhisa hugs Alan_Hicks. [13:29] augh [13:29] <[hireme]rhisa> It's okay. [13:29] LFS [13:29] Action: [hireme]rhisa caresses Alan_Hicks's hands. [13:29] Now that would be tedious [13:29] LOL [13:29] haha [13:29] LFS isn't so bad. [13:29] <[hireme]rhisa> Animeking, I've done my own programming language and my own Linux, you can do it if you devote some time and really care. [13:29] :D [13:29] Ah [13:29] <[hireme]rhisa> Okay sorry I've stalled enough and will be late for class, later all. [13:29] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@unaffiliated/kamii' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:29] Animeking: After I finished my first LFS, I thought "I'll make a package manager for it. one that works the way _I_ Want it to work. It'll be good." [13:29] dudes , what are scripting thing in red hat thing [13:29] about 2 days into that project, I realized I was just re-implementing Slackware's pkgtools ... badly. [13:30] Shell Scripting Substantial Knowledge [13:30] Hmm [13:30] KaMii (~KaMii@unaffiliated/kamii) joined ##slackware. [13:30] makes me think I should maybe hand my package manager to LFS guys [13:30] You know, I always assumed package managers have to connect to a repository lol [13:30] i really dont understand what shell scripting is ? [13:30] lol i got klined [13:30] <[hireme]rhisa> KaMii, that was not a kline. [13:30] KaMii, you got banned, not klined. [13:30] adrien: I don't think they want it. [13:30] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-84-55.w92-155.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:30] adrien: I know I don't! :P [13:30] it doesn't seem like Slack needs to do that [13:31] i wish all the linux was like windows [13:31] eviljames: I don't really care but they might: it's available, they do whatever they want [13:31] oh i thought they were the same, anyway, did my question get submitted? [13:31] standard thing [13:31] Animeking: *cough* man slackpkg [13:31] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.22) joined ##slackware. [13:31] lol [13:31] KaMii, a ban is channel specific, a kline is being banned from the entire freenode network. [13:31] looks like it did not, I will re-ask [13:31] m1ck3y (~m1ck3y@adsl-99-121-30-211.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:32] <[hireme]rhisa> kewlo, now I know you definitely dunno what you are talking about. [13:32] can i copy paste something here [13:32] I am guessing the answer would be yes, but could IO errors be contributed to a faulty Powersupply? [13:32] Installation and System Administration Unfamiliar 0 [13:32] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*chatzilla@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:32] n00mada kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Go away before I replace you with a very small shell script (and some better markov chains) [13:32] kewlo kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Go away before I replace you with a very small shell script (and some better markov chains) [13:32] thank the heavens [13:32] m1ck3y (m1ck3y@adsl-99-121-30-211.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [13:32] :) [13:33] Action: kslen thanks the botmaster. [13:34] too bad slackboy cant detect bots like that and auto ban them [13:35] Memtest86 v4.10 1 pass completed no errors [13:35] KaMii: Well, in .. theory .. yes, not enough watts / dirty power could cause a drive to behave very badly [13:35] Well, if he comes back with a different IP but the same ircname, he'll be banned by the rule I made. [13:35] but that's not likely the culprit I don't think. I'd be leaning to dead drive [13:35] im going to unplug the drive, run the livecd and see if those io errors show up again [13:36] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:36] Are they raid-related by chance? [13:36] sushiyant (hamed@unaffiliated/sushiyant) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:36] I came across a drive that had some flag set on it, it would give me a shitton of errors unless I set "nodmraid" (iirc) at the boot prompt [13:36] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [13:36] two dead drives right after eachother... either my mamma is right and I have bad luck, or the company i bought from keeps sending me bad stuff [13:36] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:37] i never activated any raid [13:37] KaMii: Or they're both from the same bad batch or some such thing... mass produced and all. [13:40] KaMii: Who makes the drive? [13:40] IO errors still present when drive is unplugged and booted from livecd [13:41] same exact errors as I posted in the pastebin [13:41] Reducer (~reducer@g226105200.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:41] M3no1ti0s (M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.22) left ##slackware. [13:42] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [13:42] any idea's why i get this proxy error (tor/polipo) 504 Connect to www.google.de:80 failed: Connection refused [13:43] to the standard config file from torproject i added this: [13:43] daemonise = true [13:43] Western Digital [13:43] pidFile = /var/run/polipo.pid [13:43] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*chatzilla@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:44] diskCacheRoot = "~/.polipo-cache/" [13:44] folder exists ^ [13:44] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [13:44] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:44] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [13:44] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:44] KaMii: You might be able to call them and just tell them your issue. They can probably pin point it to the hard drive if that's the issue and get and RMA set up if that's the case [13:44] exussum (~exussum@91.109.12.13) joined ##slackware. [13:45] Hey guys - i cant boot in to any linux CD it hangs on "loading, please wait" - ive added acpi=off noacpi to the kernal parameters which makes a kernel panic "CPU not syncing context currupt [13:45] but why am I getting those IO errors on bootup of the livecd? [13:45] exussum: that should have been "acpi=off noapic" [13:45] hold on I will repost it on pastebin [13:46] alienBOB: Will try that now thanks [13:47] if we werent moving half way across the planet next week i would not be so worried about this [13:47] even as running polipo as root i get the same error [13:48] -as +if [13:49] pastebin.ca/1942246 [13:50] damn you KaMii! How am I supposed to clik that URI from irssi to get FF to open it! Now I have to copy paste?!@ I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE [13:50] all those 'overlaps' and 'could not be reserved' messages, [13:51] 6 CPUs... niice :P [13:51] ya well not so nice if you cant read, write to a HDD [13:51] I see no I/O errors KaMii [13:51] hah [13:51] so those arent errors? [13:52] i thought it was a bunch of errors [13:52] I don't see any errors [13:52] Action: KaMii feels kinda dumb now [13:53] so its probably just another bad HDD [13:53] that makes me feel happier [13:53] sda - 160GB drive (seems to be working fine w/ sda1 sda2) sdb 250GB drive, also seems to be working fine. [13:54] I unplugged the 1TB so that wont show up, I have the log file with it plugged in [13:54] hmm, so is the fact that I can't seem to play 2-3 media players the reason pulse was made? D: [13:54] hrad (~a@77.93.201.43) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:55] Animeking: ...sure! [13:55] i think I will return this HDD, tell them do not replace just give me money back, and I will buy a new one when I get to the USA [13:56] Action: Animeking just tried to get xine, xmms and mplayer to work at once but the audio wouldn't work on more than one?? albeit he only did this to see if it would work not because he'd need to... [13:56] mrcarrot (lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) left ##slackware. [13:56] Animeking: I'm not 100% sure, but I think at least one of those suckers (xmms probably) will try to glom onto your /dev/dsp and demand exclusive access. [13:57] ah [13:57] argh, somebody give me a job. [13:57] KaMii: You're moving to the US? [13:57] kr_eten (~quick@ip-161-16.powernet.bg) joined ##slackware. [13:58] ya, if I knew we were going to move i would not have bought the computer here [13:58] but we didnt know, just sorta happened and I was told last week we are moving and we leave next saturday [13:58] hey Animeking [13:58] KaMii: Is it just a temporary move or permanent? [13:59] permanant i think, the moving company is coming next week to pack up everything [13:59] but we dont have a place to live so we will be living with my grandparents for awhile... but they dont have internet :S' [13:59] someone will have "free" wifi. [13:59] :/ [13:59] KaMii: Go to a public library and download yourself some aircrack :P [14:00] hey deco [14:00] not where they live, unless the they give bears computers [14:00] err, I didn't say that, nor do I know of such a tool. [14:00] assuming they're in a city with neighbors [14:00] its not in a city, its way out in the middle of nowhere [14:00] eviljames: Sure, blame it on goodjames. The police will surely believe that! [14:00] hi, any idea why assigned to programs from the klauncher keys do not work any more? khotkeys (slack current) [14:00] jgeboski: I thought something like 60-70% of Americans were urban.. [14:00] I cant mount /sda3 its my old ext3 slackware 13.0 /home http://pastebin.com/kJYrfQiK [14:00] so i will be offline for awhile [14:00] Alan_Hicks: He prefers to be called "THE goodjames" [14:01] alienBOB: Tried that - doesnt get any further [14:01] so I wanted to track down this problem because i think it will be difficult to get parts replaced once I leave sweden [14:01] eviljames: I'm not in that percent :/ [14:01] even though its under warranty with the manufacture [14:02] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:02] rizitis: you must use /dev/sda5, sda3 isnt a partition [14:03] sabalaba, sda5 is on sda3 and sda5 is mounted [14:03] sahko, sorry sabalaba [14:03] i think sda3 is just an extended partition containing sda5 [14:03] numnum (~chatzilla@117.206.16.148) joined ##slackware. [14:03] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!chatzilla@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:03] numnum kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: From one bot to another, get lost! [14:04] haw haw [14:04] heh [14:04] sahko, exactly [14:04] rizitis: yeah, you cant mount sda3 [14:04] sahko, how can this happened? [14:05] here is the section of /var/log/messages with the 1TB drive attached: pastebin.ca/1942260 [14:05] but I cant read sda3 [14:06] pastebin the output from "mount" [14:06] Do you guys support LOPSA? [14:06] rizitis: ask from someone to explain it in greek. its really basic partitioning 101 [14:06] i m not good with terminology [14:07] ok sahko thanks [14:07] admboom: There's a LEAGUE?! [14:07] kr_eten (~quick@ip-161-16.powernet.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:07] :) [14:08] 20,000 of em under the sea [14:08] eviljames, not sure how relevant they are, but they have been around a while [14:08] KaMii: What's wrong there? [14:08] rizitis: the slackbook (which also has a greek version) might be of help. let me look [14:08] nothing that I can see, im just trying to give all the info I can [14:09] right now from what I have seen, I guess I just got two bad 1TB drives, and thats all it is, bad batch [14:09] I would run cfdisk /dev/sd{a,b,c,etc} and see what's on there in terms of slices/filesystems [14:09] eviljames: are you talking to me? [14:10] i know on that drive there is only one partition [14:10] yeah, sorry [14:10] well, didn't you say you couldn't read/write it? [14:11] well mkfs.ext4 -c /dev/sdb1 returned 33 gigs+ of IO log errors and it failed to write a FS [14:11] but cfdisk wrote a partition [14:12] So are there actually people who use LFS as their 'main' systems? Just wondering from the discussion from a while ago considering that with LFS you'd need to compile almost everything from source and from what I can tell from past package managers getting all the necessary libraries isn't easy...o-o [14:12] Animeking, yeah, LFS requires you to build everything from scratch (and actually, you have to compile the toolchain twice) [14:12] Animeking: i believe the distribution Sorcerer uses LFS but i might be wrong [14:13] o_o Jesus. [14:13] oh wait, I said that wrong, I meant LVM [14:13] you usually use an existing distro to build your LFS system [14:13] You know, this makes me wonder... [14:14] wonder what? :P [14:14] disregaurd what I said... It was wrong [14:14] How were OSs, compilers, programming languages and everything else like that made before the existance of OSs? [14:14] have anybody slackbuild skript for qt? [14:14] or anybody is using Qt 4.7? [14:14] machinecode? [14:14] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [14:15] well the first compiler was in machine code, obviously [14:15] Well yeah, but machine code isn't exactly human readable D: [14:15] unless machine code would be assembly >_>;; [14:15] signal11 (esteban@gnv.quaddro.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:15] but that is 50 years ago! [14:15] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:15] signal11 (esteban@gnv.quaddro.net) joined ##slackware. [14:16] foldy: take a look at the script here: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware64-13.1/source/l/qt/ [14:17] jgeboski, it is for 32 or 64? [14:17] 64 [14:18] Srbo (~Srbo@ip-81-210-224-157.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [14:18] jgeboski, I need for 32 [14:18] ok, i am going to assume the problem is just the HDD again, thanks for the help, I will call that place again tomorrow and see what they say. Hope I can get my money back. now its pizza time [14:18] foldy: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.1/source/l/qt/ [14:19] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:19] foldy: Keep in mind that that's for a later version than 4.7 [14:19] later? [14:20] opps earlier* [14:20] jgeboski, but If I change version in slackbuild it will work well [14:20] should [14:20] earlier is moar better :) [14:20] :) [14:22] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) joined ##slackware. [14:22] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [14:22] jgeboski, :) [14:25] notKlaatu (~klaatu@209.59.222.239) joined ##slackware. [14:28] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:29] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [14:29] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Changing host [14:29] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. 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That was a bit too rigid to my tastes [14:35] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [14:35] if you irc fom your browser you deserve a little corporal punishment [14:36] mancha: some can not IRC with a normal client due to corporate desktop rules [14:36] mancha, noo.. [14:37] alienBOB: Oh! I thought chatzilla was the bot, not an IRC client. My bad. [14:37] No no it is part of the mozilla suite. [14:37] Srbo (~Srbo@ip-81-210-224-157.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [14:37] i say ban Mirc users [14:37] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:37] KaMii was screaming about bots as well, but she does not see the difference between a troll and a bot [14:38] alienBOB: Well, it was either a dumb bot or a smart troll. Seemed more of a dumb bot to me. [14:38] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:38] Some people are not of this world [14:38] Says the alien. [14:38] ^ [14:39] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:39] we need richard stallman to come here [14:39] BuGi (~opera@83.243.107.79) joined ##slackware. [14:39] Why? [14:39] Dear God no. I've heard you can smell him through IRC. [14:39] Seriously, that's not the best idea. [14:39] Slackware is too pragmatic. [14:39] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:40] does he really smell? [14:40] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:40] Action: Motoko-chan is in favor of banning mIRC from the channel [14:40] dustybin: From every account I've ever heard, yeah. [14:40] eeeeeeeek [14:40] Action: rob0 won't belong to any channel which would have him as a member [14:40] Motoko-chan: BTW, where the hell have you been? [14:40] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:40] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [14:41] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [14:41] I've been around, just no when you are, it seems. [14:41] He won't come here anyway, not unless we re-directed everyone to ##GNU/slackware [14:41] the only reason i compiled wine was so i could irc with mirc [14:41] ./ignore Alan_Hicks [14:41] oops [14:42] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [14:47] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ [14:47] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:48] vbatts: I saw that a while back. That's disgusting [14:48] his corns are gpl'd [14:48] asdfjkl (~asdfasdfs@112.202.241.192) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:48] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. 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[15:14] Ewwww, It's HelloKaMii :) [15:14] haha [15:14] RaNdY (randy@hurf.minds.durf.alike.shellium.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:15] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:15] Nick change: _RaNdY -> RaNdY [15:15] How's it going in KaMiiland? [15:15] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [15:15] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:16] well, got the 1tb hdd replaced but that one is bad also [15:16] Was the box bent in half? [15:16] lol no [15:16] What was wrong wif it? [15:16] over 36 gigs of IO error messages [15:17] Which brand? [15:17] WD [15:17] :( [15:17] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:17] That is the brand Fry's has on sale. [15:17] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@c-98-212-175-103.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:17] ...which I wanted to get to upgrade my fileserver [15:18] Was it a new drive? [15:18] thats what they said, but i dont belive them [15:18] Why? Did someone write BAD on it in magic-marker? [15:19] lol [15:19] ezi fuzzbawl [15:19] no, but 2 bad HDDs DOA? [15:20] ezi? [15:20] acidchild, did you just try calling me a lezi? [15:20] yes ofcourse ;) [15:20] Did you google that model to see if others are having problems??? [15:20] acidchild, you forgot the l [15:20] i wouldn't be far wrong would i? [15:20] Dominian: ping [15:20] no sir [15:20] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:21] i love me some womens [15:21] hehe, 'ezi' = easy... just a greeting of sorts. [15:22] I read that as "eas-eye" [15:23] acidchild: pong [15:23] n37wk3r (~unknown@unaffiliated/n37wk3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:23] I breaks omething acidchild ? [15:23] nope. [15:23] so, speaking of women. Mine noticed that there was a hub cap missing from the car this weekend. She said someone must have stolen it [15:24] acidchild: what's up? [15:24] or it fell off on the highway? :P [15:24] ashe (~ashe@125.163.47.96) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:24] so I took a look and found curb rash on the rim [15:24] fuzzbawl: hahaha [15:24] fuzzbawl: shit hit zee curb eh [15:24] er.. [15:24] wow.. SHE hit the curb [15:24] I brought it to her attention. She ordered a new hub cap :) [15:24] haha [15:25] hehehe. [15:25] acidchild, I very much doubt that. Car only has 900 miles on it as of this week [15:25] nice :) [15:25] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:25] she decided she needed a prius. 0% financing helped [15:25] ashe (~ashe@125.166.160.139) joined ##slackware. [15:26] I decided that prius needs to die [15:26] some fat chick almost hit me with her car a hour ago, i asked her if this was GTA and how many points i was worth. [15:26] Dominian, shhh. I'm 90% sure that thing is self-aware [15:26] fuzzbawl: haha [15:27] lannders (~lannders@193-25.26-24.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:28] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:29] Action: acidchild plows Dominian down in his prius [15:29] 3 points! [15:29] hah [15:29] I won't drive a prius [15:29] I'm 6'4" [15:29] I wouldn't fit [15:29] Dominian, you'd be surprised [15:29] how small your dick can look in one? [15:30] acidchild, that's me with any vehicle [15:30] that sucks. [15:30] except a Geo Metro. I'm king of the castle there [15:30] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:30] josemanuel (~josemanue@168.252.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [15:31] Urugami (~AndChat@170.sub-97-199-126.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. 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[15:39] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:39] Yeah, newest Lightning only works with 3.1.3 :\ [15:39] asdfjkl (~asdfasdfs@112.202.241.192) joined ##slackware. [15:39] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:40] john_dee: ldd /usr/bin/thunderbird on 64-current outputs "not a dynamic executable" [15:40] so it will likely just work [15:40] try upgradepkg with the 64-current package. you can always upgradepkg back if it doesn't work [15:41] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:42] actually...scratch that...it's a symbolic link to a script [15:42] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:43] zaltekk: That's because it's a script ;) [15:43] john_dee: yep, like i just said. [15:43] :o [15:47] mootpuppet (~mootpuppe@infectedtech.org) joined ##slackware. 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[16:34] jemark (~mark@86-44-32-251-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [16:35] exussum_ (~exussum_@91.109.12.13) joined ##slackware. [16:35] exussum_ (~exussum_@91.109.12.13) left irc: Client Quit [16:36] Success! `find . -type f -exec du --bytes {} \; | sort -k 2` [16:37] exussum (~exussum@91.109.12.13) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:37] uh oh, i don't think my GeForce 210 likes all of these kwin effects turned on :P [16:38] dropping down below 15FPS desktop draw speed with multiple programs open [16:39] guess i should put the 96c 9600GSO back in [16:40] FrankD (~frankd@cpe-24-161-1-107.hvc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:41] How are the Geforce GT220s? [16:43] In this big file list I make (with the above command), bigger sizes push the file name more over, like so: http://pastebin.ca/1942371 [16:44] Reducer (~reducer@g226105200.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:44] How can I format the output (ala c++ iomanip) to, ehh,, reserve enough columns in the filesize output for every file? [16:44] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:45] du is adding a tab. [16:48] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:48] [13:37:33] How are the Geforce GT220s? <-- I have a GT220 in my desktop. Using the nvidia driver (binary, closed), KWin effects work fine and VDPAU works great. [16:48] FrankD (~frankd@cpe-24-161-1-107.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:49] Motoko-chan: Wondering how it would stack up against a 9600GSO 512. One of the latter is in a box with fairly limited ventilation, and it makes me just a little bit nervous. [16:49] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:49] whew [16:49] ashe (~ashe@125.166.164.254) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:49] what about a GSO-512? [16:49] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [16:49] Not sure what that is. [16:49] whatd i miss? i love nvidia cards! :P [16:50] ashe (~ashe@125.166.161.238) joined ##slackware. [16:52] hrad (~a@77.93.201.43) joined ##slackware. [16:52] BlackGoat: you there? [16:52] FrankD: I'm wondering if I should trade a GSO-512 for a GT 220 for a case with fairly limited ventilation that doesn't get used for THAT much gaming. :) [16:52] ahh [16:52] Looks like about a 20% performance hit if the GT 220's using DDR3. [16:52] foldy (~foldy@mail.foldy.org) left irc: Quit: Odcházím [16:52] well, PowerMizer doesn't work with 9600GSOs under Linux.. so you could underclock it if you were worried about heat [16:52] If you game on slackware with steam, join my slackware steam group. [16:52] And then gimme all your money. [16:52] there were 512mb GSOs with 96 cores and 48 cores, do you know which one you have? [16:53] 48 core, id definitely use the GT220 [16:53] FrankD: I'm probably just worrying too much; it's being fed by an Athlon X2 5050e and its mighty 45W TDP... [16:53] byteframe: I'll look for it. =) [16:54] BlackGoat: nothing wrong with a 5050e ;) a 5200 was PLENTY to feed 96-128 SP cards in most games [16:55] BlackGoat, http://steamcommunity.com/groups/slackware [16:55] FrankD: I know. I'm hard-pressed to notice much of a difference between the 9600GT in my X2 250 and the GSO in the 5050e box. [16:55] BlackGoat: do you use it for watching high def video at all? because the GT220 has support for some more stuff over the 9600 [16:56] FrankD: Nah, my HTPC's running a Radeon 3850 and Windows Vista, and does all the movie watching. The h.264 acceleration is REALLY nice... [16:56] BlackGoat: in some cases, the 96 core 9600GSOs were faster.. more raw processing power, higher texture fillrate [16:56] danimoth (~danimoth@net-93-144-137-181.cust.dsl.teletu.it) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:56] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. [16:57] FrankD: Yep, though I don't have one of those. Originally snagged one for $60 early last year, but it had a bad RAMDAC and I swapped it for a 48 SP model. Lost some shader power, gained a lot of memory bandwidth. [16:57] BlackGoat: ahh yeah, thats why i got the 9600 for this thing.. then someone gave me a 210.. which was nice until i started using this machine as a desktop box a lot [16:57] _PelZ (~pekka@80-186-182-165.elisa-mobile.fi) joined ##slackware. [16:57] FrankD: The 210s are cute little things. [16:57] theyre great for decoding video ;) and they use no power [16:58] but apparently it was a little too light weight for kwin with lots of crap turned on heh [16:58] FrankD: The fact that a window manager was able to drag it to its knees still makes me sad. [16:59] I don't want to think about how Kwin would work on a Radeon 8500... [16:59] why not try it on a Geforce 256 [16:59] BlackGoat: heh, it was mainly the task switching with like 20 windows open in one virtual desktop [16:59] FrankD: that has nothing to do with teh video card [16:59] FrankD: Yes, I can see that being an issue... [16:59] it wasn't to its knees.. just not incredibly snappy [16:59] adaptr: Oh really? Then why did my frame rates more than double when I just changed the video card.. especially during task switching? :P [17:00] God help me, the 5050e box is running in this: http://s178.photobucket.com/albums/w241/actionpc2/STK7618/?action=view¤t=STK7618blue01.jpg [17:00] it has a lot to do with wha the OS can possibly offload to the videocard, or the bandwidth to the video card [17:01] adaptr, ok, well same bandwidth (PCI-E 2.0 x16) :P and the G92 doesnt support anything the GT218 doesnt ;) [17:01] that's rather a major upgrade - more than one generation [17:02] it's exactly one generation from G92 to GT218.. and it's a 'downgrade' in generational terms :D [17:02] BlackGoat: that has to be one of the ugliest cases ive ever seen hahaha [17:02] macius (~macius@bas2-toronto09-1176406161.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[17:06] macius: yeah, there should be a file about that in the ISO [17:06] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:06] macius, http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-13.1/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [17:06] i just realized the dd option doesnt work ( hoping if i made the partitiong ext3 bootable and dd'd the image files onto it it would work =() [17:06] perfect [17:06] thank you [17:06] macius: heh, youll get it with no problem after reading that ;) [17:07] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.134.209) joined ##slackware. [17:07] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.134.209) left irc: Changing host [17:07] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [17:08] FrankD: A friend of mine was running a VIA C3-based Slackware server in a full ATX tower once. =) [17:08] macius: hmm i think that actually outlines a way of doing it that requires you to have 2 USB sticks or to boot with that one THEN dd the iso over [17:08] No, wait. [17:08] It's byteframe's group [17:08] btw just out of curiosity, does slackware have any plans for gnome3?, havent looked at any sw news in a while [17:09] is there a slackware news website? [17:09] BlackGoat: heh, the CM 590 is pretty big ;) although not quiet as big as some of those older full size cases [17:09] macius: look into gsb [17:09] If it's just as messed up to package as GNOME has been, it probably won't even be thought about. [17:09] at over 17" tall and 20" deep [17:09] macius: Look to Dropline for your answers. [17:09] not that i know of, i meant read anything in forums about slackware =P [17:09] dustybin: best slackware news = the changelog! :) [17:10] haha [17:10] FrankD: Yeah, I've got a giant gray steel ATX case I found by a dumpster, peed on by a cat and housing a functional Athlon 1200 system. Three hard drives, one of 'em chock full o' furry porn. [17:10] haha [17:11] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:11] http://connie.slackware.com/~volkerdi/ [17:11] blackgoat + thumbs, yeha but those are thirdparty developers no? , i thought the remove slackware base system files and such [17:11] It is my group, and I shall remain perpetual, player of the week. [17:11] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-48.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:11] troy_ (~troy@dsl-69-172-104-22.acanac.net) joined ##slackware. [17:12] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*chatzilla@117.206.* expired. [17:12] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*chatzilla@117.206.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:12] macius: True, I'm just saying that Slackware's resumption of Gnome providing would be Big News. The changelog's the best source for news in general. [17:12] ugh i think i need to get some more drives and actually keep all my pr0.. err data on a raid array :P [17:12] .. with ZFS. [17:12] interesting: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2750 [17:13] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:14] guys, a routing question for those of you who deal with networking. please see the paste: http://codepad.org/AC8o7R3i [17:14] God bless that man. [17:14] Not a huge fan of the Grateful Dead, but my wife's fond. [17:15] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [17:15] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420764.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:16] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [17:16] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[17:18] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:18] Potentially, yes/ [17:18] dunno how it broke, randomly it'll spitout disks, even in efi, and im seeing no problems from dmesg =s hmm [17:18] if the sr driver determines the wait is too long it will log a message [17:18] adaptr: everytime i insert disk** or almsot everytime, itll attempt to read it ( i can hear the noise ) and after 3 fails it'll give up [17:19] and shoot the disk back out [17:19] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.252.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:19] clean the laser with some alcohol. [17:19] sounds like hardware fail. whether this is reported in dmesg depends on whether the drive firmware itself realises it's broken [17:19] macius: On the bright side, obtaining another drive for testing purposes probably isn't difficult or expensive. [17:19] its obviously a hardware error, just i was confused why im not seeing anything about it [17:20] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [17:20] macius: slava_dp and adaptr have the right ideas. Clean the drive, test with a known good disc; if it still b0rks out, then the drive done gone bad. [17:21] hmm, guess the 9600 GSO didn't help THAT much [17:21] Action: FrankD kicks kwin 4.5.1 [17:21] Action: slava_dp glues himself to kde 4.4.4 :) [17:21] alright yeah ill do that, thanks all for advice [17:21] FrankD: I gave up on KDE4 almost instantly. Install the libs, forget the rest of it. [17:21] Reducer (~reducer@g226105200.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Action: Ansa89 kiks KDE 4.* && glues himself to xfce/icewm [17:23] s/kiks/kicks/ [17:23] Action: BlackGoat still uses Window Maker whenever he has a chance [17:24] asarch (~asarch@187.132.131.250) joined ##slackware. [17:24] asarch (~asarch@187.132.131.250) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:24] I prefer WallMaker [17:24] are there any "panels" that work with xfce, a la karamba ? [17:24] wtf is direct rendering supposed to do [17:24] Much more opaque. [17:24] in advanced desktop settings [17:24] asarch (~asarch@187.132.131.250) joined ##slackware. [17:24] i mean aside from make everything slower. [17:24] DRI: http://dri.freedesktop.org/ [17:25] FrankD: do you have a DRI-capable and supoprted display adaper ? [17:25] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [17:25] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [17:25] adaptr: i hope G92/GT218s are. :P [17:25] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [17:25] FrankD: no, nothing nvidia makes is DRI [17:25] what! [17:25] those bastards [17:26] not at all, nvidia hardly needs it [17:26] did you read the link ? go read the link [17:26] nVidia doesn't need Mesa, it has its own OpenGL implementatino. [17:26] implementation. [17:27] oh i didnt think DRI and Mesa were tied together that tight [17:28] i see [17:28] but does 'Enable Direct Rendering' mean DRI? [17:29] FrankD: Yes, at least as far as I know. [17:30] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:32] At least for nVidia binary drivers, that setting isn't really a good idea. [17:32] nVidia replaces some X system files. [17:33] arfon (~arfon@66.87.0.88) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [17:33] arfon (~arfon@66.87.0.88) joined ##slackware. [17:34] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.86.45) joined ##slackware. [17:34] I think that drop is a sign for me to go home... Later all. 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[17:44] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [17:45] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:47] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: _marc` [17:49] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.168.159) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:51] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:51] Compositing + VDPAU = poop? [17:51] I probably wouldn't notice... I never use compositing. [17:53] the open source drivers usually work good enough for most people. [17:53] even ati work very well now [17:54] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [17:54] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:55] BlackGoat (~freontrip@p145x54.tceq.state.tx.us) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:57] is it possible to run cairo-dock with plugins if i install the lib gtkglext before? 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[18:00] wth, is gentoo based of slackware =S, my buddy just gave me this link http://tuxtraining.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/linuxchart.png, and from what i see enoch, is based of stampede [18:01] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-211-243.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:02] BrokenCog: umount proc/bus/usb [18:02] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-211-243.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:02] BrokenCog: umount /proc/bus/usb [18:02] then start vbox [18:03] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [18:03] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-219-251.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [18:03] NyteOwl (sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left ##slackware ("What does this button do again ... ?"). [18:03] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-219-251.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420764.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:05] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:05] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/why-is-slackware-so-stable-832421/ [18:05] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420764.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:06] BrokenCog (1000@68-188-21-249.static.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:06] 13.1 uses 2.6.33.4 which branch has already been abandoned/unmaintained upstream. [18:06] what does that mean? [18:07] dustybin, it means that you'll have to build a kernel :-) [18:07] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [18:07] ace [18:07] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:07] it means whoever wrote that is a n00b [18:08] 2.6.33.4 was relatively new at the time of 13.1's release [18:08] the problem is, -current hasn't updated since ;) [18:09] those updates tend to take a little while. [18:09] I don't think pat changes the kernel too much [18:09] 13.1 was released in May [18:10] the sentiment is ok, i.e. 2.6.33.4 is old. but the branch is not dead, 2.6.33.7 was released on 8/2/10 [18:10] why update the kernel 300 times in -current, wait till you have most of the major work done then try out the latest and kernel. [18:10] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:10] and that's exactly what the Man does [18:10] XGizzmo, so people can test new versions earlier on [18:11] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:11] people do that anyways [18:11] slackware does not stay on the latest version of the branch. this is true. [18:12] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:12] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [18:13] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [18:14] have you all heard about novell getting slashed and quartered for sale? [18:15] HarryS (H@2001:470:892c:3432::1) joined ##slackware. [18:15] mancha: novell is up for sale? [18:15] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] i heard the suse part is going to one buyer and the res to another. [18:15] greetings and salutations [18:16] hi andarius [18:16] rest* [18:16] salutations NyteOwl, how goes ? [18:16] mancha: I must have missed that in their last newsletter [18:16] andarius: fighting with perl and php [18:16] sorry to hear that [18:16] dont know anything about perl here, but I know a little php :) [18:16] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:17] hmmmm... wonder what happens to the novell/MS compact in a sale? [18:17] wonder if that remains binding [18:17] this is rumor, i doubt that any official announcement would be made while the details are sorted [18:17] andarius: well I had a perl script that I was calling from inside a php generated webpage using the virtual function. However my hosting provider has recently moved PHP over to running as CGI rather than an apache module and virtual doesn't work anymore. [18:18] i wonder if the suse folks know anything more... [18:18] sounds like your work is about to get way more complex than it should :| [18:19] andarius: yup [18:19] mancha: suse folks would be the dead last to know. [18:19] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:19] HarryS (H@2001:470:892c:3432::1) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:19] i think XGizzmo is right [18:20] frk (~jcn@189.58.222.29.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:20] Urugami (~AndChat@170.sub-97-199-126.myvzw.com) left irc: Quit: Bye [18:20] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:21] frk (~jcn@189.58.222.29.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [18:21] huh? novell invests a TON into suse [18:21] frk (~jcn@189.58.222.29.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:21] It shows. 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[20:49] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:53] hmm. i'm running nc -l [20:54] nc -l -p 3333 [20:54] nooper: ahh. thanks [20:54] np [20:56] hrad (~a@77.93.201.43) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:56] BrokenCog (~Daniel@68-188-21-242.static.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:59] frk (~jcn@189.58.222.29.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:59] _tecra (~fake.emai@99.13.242.166) joined ##slackware. [20:59] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:01] PiterPunk (~piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [21:02] BrokenCog (~Daniel@68-188-21-242.static.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:02] thanks again, nooper :D [21:02] latemus (~m@72.8.65.180) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:03] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [21:05] gooph (nuser~hkcs@71.21.135.229) joined ##slackware. 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[21:12] depends :> what for, specifically ? [21:13] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [21:14] frk (~jcn@189.58.222.29.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:14] thrice: nvm i relize how this works, i was specifically looking for a conf fiel for rc.inet1 , didnt see a separte rc.inet1.conf lol [21:15] ah, ok; yeah, no equivilant to /etc/conf.d for example [21:15] AndChat- (~AndChat@adsl-6-72-70.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:16] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:16] caoliver (~oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:16] sadly nope =( but what can you do, i would be to happy with gentoo as a server anyway =P [21:17] AndChat- (~AndChat@adsl-6-72-70.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:17] well, do you think daemon scripts require such hacking? [21:17] AndChat- (~AndChat@adsl-6-72-70.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:17] sorry [21:17] i meant [21:17] wouldnt** [21:19] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-177-197-57.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [21:19] Mipsalawishus (~Administr@173.217.108.113) joined ##slackware. [21:20] Mipsalawishus (Administr@173.217.108.113) left ##slackware. [21:21] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.10.14.252) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [21:22] vhann (~vhann@modemcable112.221-81-70.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:22] Hi, has anybody suceeded in installing wine 1.3.1 on Slackware 13.1 64 bits? [21:24] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [21:24] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:24] Nick change: nooper_ -> nooper [21:25] vhann: I have and I'm sure most of the other using x64 have [21:25] Evilaz (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [21:25] since the stable version is 1.2 I doubt that [21:26] hexhawk, 1.3 is the unstable series [21:26] thrice`: that was my point [21:26] jgeboski: Hum, using the binary package downloadable from winehq.org ? [21:28] Weird, I get an error trying to use it '/usr/bin/winecfg: line 29: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory [21:28] /usr/bin/winecfg: line 29: /usr/bin/wine: Success [21:28] Using stock full Slackware 13.1 [21:28] AndChat- (~AndChat@adsl-6-72-70.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:28] vhann: It's probably built on an x86 platform and you don't have a multilib system [21:28] vhann: file /usr/bin/wine [21:29] /usr/bin/wine: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [21:29] mkv96 (~makaveli@S010600a2bc4a5271.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:29] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-4.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:30] So what's the point of building packages for x86_64 Slackware 13.1 if it doesn't actually work? Or do I just need to install additional packages? [21:30] Ah ok, got my answer from slackbuilds.org [21:31] vhann: you're going to need a multilib system [21:31] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@187.10.14.252) joined ##slackware. [21:32] vhann: you're using a 32 bit package. not sure why you're complaining about 64 bit packages [21:33] gooph (nuser~hkcs@71.21.135.229) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Iceweasel 3.0.6/2010090808] [21:33] ananke: I downloaded the txz under 'x86_64' directory, I assumed it was meant for x86_64 [21:34] ahh. dunno about that, i haven't used a 64 bit slack yet [21:35] morning all [21:36] It's the evening you insensitive clod! [21:36] ananke: It's my first time too. I just copied an image of my hdd to my server and tried upgrading from 13.0 to 13.1 X64, it would seem I'd be better recompiling X.org rather than upgrading to fix 3d issues... [21:36] uh.. wut? [21:36] vhann: are you sure about that approach? [21:36] :)) i'm in indonesian, morning in here [21:37] anyone can tell me, what stable version of mysql for slackware 13.1? [21:37] /var/log/packages/mysql-5.1.46-x86_64-2 [21:37] err, that's -current, sorry [21:37] eviljames: I know (and definitely don't understand) that #slackware is dead set against compiling anything, but really, that seems like a safer approach [21:37] it is the same for 13.1 [21:38] vhann: No, ##slackware is totally in favour of compiling anything. Except when that compile may be a giant waste of your time. [21:38] guess it is a good thing you are in ##slackware then :o [21:38] ok thx eviljames [21:38] (note the number of # ) :) [21:39] vhann: What sort of 3d issues are you seeing? If you're talking about running 32 bit Windows software (under wine) on x86_64, that definitely wants a multilib system (google://alienbob+slackware+multilib). [21:40] eviljames: No, there is a bug somewhere in my 3D (under Slack 13.0) preventing me from running most PE (Windows programs) games for example. [21:40] s/3D/3D stack/ [21:40] ahh, which mfg? [21:41] So I tried upgrading to 13.1 since I almost got slaughtered for asking a question about recompiling everything on here yesterday [21:41] eviljames: Intel [21:41] eviljames: It's a GM965 chipset [21:42] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [21:42] vhann: if you want a laundry list of the problems 965 has on 13.0 and 13.1, just ask thrice` :-/ [21:42] ViniciusPXMB (~phantomx@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [21:43] macavity: So even if I finish downloading 13.1 32 bits, burn it, install it, the problem might still be there under 13.1? [21:43] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-4.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:43] vhann: short version: Intel has not ever yet delivered a working kernel/xorg/mesa stack for 965 [21:44] macavity: Well, my first distro was Kubuntu and I was actually able to play a few games [21:44] vhann: it might.. i am "luckey" enough to have a i945, so i have far fewer problems (though i have had a shitload so far) [21:44] That was like 2 or 3 years ago on this same laptop [21:44] Action: alphageek returns & scrolls way way back [21:44] well, 32 bits will help for wine. Anything that runs on kubuntu should run here [21:44] yes.. and you were running fully in software [21:45] alphageek: also, abs_path=$(cd $path && pwd) [21:45] adrien: sadly, that won't work properly here [21:45] but again, eviljames might know more about 32 vs 64 bit wrt wine [21:45] macavity: Impossible, it would have been way too slow [21:45] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:45] it sounds plausible though that running 32 bit apps under wine on a 64 bit OS might cause trouble [21:46] alphageek: why? [21:46] macavity: only inasfar as I got warcraft 3 (the only computer game made in the last probably 5 years that I've played) to run :P [21:46] symlinks truncating 'full' paths [21:46] vhann: uhm, i can play UT 2004 in software on this laptop :P [21:46] wine64 can run 64bit apps [21:46] ViniciusPXMB (~phantomx@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Client Quit [21:46] $ locate /pub/linux/software/slack-13.1/ChangeLog.txt [21:46] wine(32) can run 32bit apps [21:46] /data/pub/linux/software/slack-13.1/ChangeLog.txt [21:46] nothing more, nothing less [21:47] adrien: I ran a 64 bit train on your sister last weekend. what do you think about THAT?!?!?!? :P [21:47] eviljames: again, I don't have any sister, you probably played with one of my brothers... [21:47] eviljames: Unfortunately for you, his sister is a man by now :p [21:47] vhann: anyhow, intels 3d drivers have been a mess for quite some time.. just read up on phoronix.com if you dont belive me (and want the digest version) [21:48] I have 2 symlinks in / that point to subdirs in /data/. I do this for uniformity of access across machines [21:48] if you say so, I should really go to bed before the sun rises [21:48] adrien: salut! a demain! [21:48] bon soir, even. [21:49] the screwy thing with mount/df/grep works, so I'll stick with it for now [21:50] Mais que se passe-t-il? [21:51] bennymack (~ben@cpe-72-231-198-162.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:52] Evilaz (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:53] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:54] is this a good place to ask about a problem with a simple splice() test program in C? It works in 13.0 but not in 12.0 and I'm not sure why. [21:55] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] mkv96 (~makaveli@S010600a2bc4a5271.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:56] bennymack: unsupported gcc extentions? [21:57] goj (~goj@p5488EFCB.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [21:57] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: - [21:58] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [21:59] VERSIONS The splice() system call first appeared in Linux 2.6.17. [21:59] XGizzmo: perhaps. I thought it was more of a Linux kernel thing? Not sure. [21:59] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:00] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [22:00] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [22:00] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-177-232-87.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:00] Yeah, according to uname my 12.0 box is running 2.6.21 and my 13.0 is running 2.6.29 [22:02] frk (~jcn@189.58.222.29.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:04] one thing odd I notice was that in strace the order of the arguments didn't match up to the source code. It looked like the flags were taken off the end and put in the front and mangled somehow [22:04] but i'm following the man pages on my system. I looked for any sort of macro that might be doing this but nada [22:05] on the system where it works this does not happen of course. [22:05] splice(0x5, 0, 0x7, 0, 0x1000, 0) = 12 // good [22:05] splice(0x8048a46, 0x5, 0, 0x7, 0, 0x1000) = 0 // bad [22:06] jeev (~email@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:06] Okay, now if I want something like freenet, fms, frost, Imprudence or OMVViewer over the original SL viewer then would I need to do everything manually instead ofl ooking for slackbuilds? D: [22:07] bennymack: are the prototypes the same in both kernel versions? [22:07] according to man 2 splice they are [22:11] jeev (~email@174.139.9.42) joined ##slackware. [22:13] jeev: give us a kiss :P [22:14] _tecra (~fake.emai@99.13.242.166) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [22:15] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [22:19] its [22:19] really sad how for some reason [22:19] QT apps look nicer in this GTK environment than they do in KDE [22:21] jeev (~email@174.139.9.42) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:22] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [22:22] eprod (~user@96-25-191-71.gar.clearwire-wmx.net) joined ##slackware. [22:23] macius (~macius@bas2-toronto09-1176406161.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:25] artaud (~artaud@187.113.73.170) joined ##slackware. [22:25] artaud (~artaud@187.113.73.170) left irc: Changing host [22:25] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. 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