[00:00] green and orange on the NIC and orange on the router [00:00] running dhcpcd again [00:00] orange means that the link doesn't run at full speed. 2x [00:00] same with diff cable [00:00] Nick change: jeagoss -> jeagone [00:00] heh, the website i just found says the opposite 10/100bt light up green, and gigabit light up orange [00:01] oh haha [00:01] kieth, ok what subnet is your router on? 169.x.x.x ? [00:01] but funny I tried a regular cat5 instead of cat5e and still orange !! [00:02] try to do it manually. 1) kill dhcpcd 2) ifconfig eth0 down 3) ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.50 up [00:02] 255.255.255.0 [00:02] (i am assuming the net is 192.168.1.x) fix if not [00:03] 192.168.10.x yeah [00:03] ok so do ifconfig eth0 192.168.10.50 up (in step 3) [00:04] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) joined ##slackware. [00:04] yes done [00:04] now, is the router 192.168.10.1 ? [00:04] can't ping anything [00:04] router is 192.168.10.1.. [00:04] so I used 192.168.10.110 [00:04] if so, do: route add default gw 192.168.10.1 [00:05] SIOCADDRT: No such process..... WTF? [00:05] brb [00:06] it's route add default gw 192.168.10.1 dev eth0 [00:06] you need to specify the device [00:06] oops, missed the device. [00:06] if so, do: route add default gw 192.168.10.1 eth0 [00:06] thanks oobe [00:07] same no such process [00:08] how much ya want to bet this onboard NIC is crap? [00:08] it's a Marvell [00:08] can you pastethe output from: route -n [00:08] on a P5NSLI Mobo [00:08] kiethvez: could be worse, could be a realtek :P [00:09] cant paste.. but it's showing 192.168.1.0 only and no gw for eth0 [00:09] ifconfig? [00:10] i am concerned with 192.168.10.x vs 192.168.1.x [00:10] its dev eth0 [00:10] i have a feeling you don't _know_ what subnet your router is configured to [00:10] "route add default gw 192.168.10.1 dev eth0" [00:10] not "route add default gw 192.168.10.1 eth0" [00:10] nah, that won't make a difference, the dev is optional there [00:10] oh ok [00:11] well i think your right mancha [00:11] no such process [00:11] 10.x doesnt look right at all [00:11] oobe, i think so too...i bet it's that [00:11] by router is configured out of the box basically.. [00:11] its most likely 192.168.0.X or 192.168.1.X [00:11] routers ip is 10.1xx for all other dhcp clients [00:12] ? [00:12] full sentences please [00:12] err.. routers ip is 192.168.10.1.. dhcp clients are 10.1xx [00:12] I can't use full sentences damnit I'm on guiness #5 and a shot of brandy [00:12] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-421441.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:13] lol [00:13] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [00:13] heh [00:13] ok so is ifconfig showing the right address? 192.168.10.xx ? [00:13] why does the routing table say 192.168.1.0 ?? [00:14] that's a problem [00:14] what does the line say exactly what is under Genmask? [00:14] yes ifconfig is showing 192.168.10.110 as ip, but 192.168.1.255 as Bcast [00:15] Mask is saying 255.255.255.0 [00:15] functionoverform (~mranderso@adsl-99-152-244-249.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:16] what's up dudes [00:16] I'm so confused at this point.. I think the NIC is the bad apple, I briefly remember getting a 169 in windows as well like 2 years ago when I hooked it up to a old router I was playing with [00:16] so, does anybody know if you can download the cache of a streamed video on mplayer? [00:16] ok. you shoulkd do ifconfig 192.168.10.110 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.10.255 [00:16] kiethvez: eh.. are you using teh rc script to set this up ? [00:17] kiethvez: in /etc/rc.d [00:17] kiethevm, i think it's the leftover shit from the rc. script that's messg us up [00:17] lots of errors [00:17] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:18] I appended the eth0 and same [00:18] ifconfig eth0 down; ifconfig 192.168.10.110 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.10.255 eth0 up [00:18] dios_mio (mirc@88.241.143.8) left irc: [00:18] NETMASK and BRDADDR : No such device [00:19] if the eth0 can be brought up I have the right module loaded for the NIC right??? [00:20] ok, i think this is not working... [00:20] maybe the best is to edit your rc scripts... [00:21] Am I wrong on my last statement though? [00:21] why not just edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf and put the ip and netmask manually and then "no" or empty for use_dhcp [00:21] reboot and hope [00:22] yeah if you can ifconfig it then your ccard is being acknowledged by the kernel [00:22] rebooting [00:22] no need [00:23] I'll try that right now mancha, you folks in this channel are so awesome.. ! [00:23] /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 [00:23] thats all you need to do [00:23] /etc/rc.d/rc.inet2 maybe aswell [00:24] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] stuart_ (~stuart@115.135.231.0) joined ##slackware. [00:28] reran rc.inet1 after adding the ip and netmask, and turned dhcp to no.. ifconfig says 169 [00:28] stuart__ (~stuart@115.135.226.139) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:28] kiethvez, does your kernel see the ethernet card as the Marvell Yukon or the Yukon II? [00:28] ahh.. command to find out? [00:29] I have not compiled a kernel yet [00:29] modprobe?? right? [00:29] Honestly, last time I played with slack or linux at all with back in 99 :) so I'm a bit rusty [00:30] kiethvez, check lspci -v | less in root [00:30] d3mn0id (~daniel@dsl-247-252-138.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [00:31] shows as a Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit [00:32] Rat409 (~rat@bb-205-209-95-109.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:33] There's no way I'll ever go with any other dist so I'm going to figure this out! [00:34] kiethvez, now check lsmod | less and see if sk98lin or a mod staring with sk was loaded [00:34] skge is for the Marvell [00:36] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Quit: )(ã_â) ) [00:36] while I'm asking all kinds of weird questions, can I safely convert a NTFS fs to XFS? [00:36] j0z (~SPH@201.22.35.172) joined ##slackware. [00:36] j0z (~SPH@201.22.35.172) left irc: Changing host [00:36] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [00:37] doh! [00:37] stupid me, of course you have to reboot for flash to work. [00:37] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:38] d3mn0id: try /sbin/ldconfig? and restart browser ? [00:39] hey Rat409 [00:39] hey fire|bird long time,how are you? [00:39] Rat409: I'm great, thanks. How are you? [00:39] Nick change: jeagone -> jeagoss [00:39] sound ain't working now though. [00:39] heya,fire|bird [00:40] good, thanks glad its friday :) [00:40] heya MLanden [00:41] still there Mlanden? [00:41] what's the preffered way to get sound working in slack 13, 32 bit? [00:41] kiethvez, yeah,still here... [00:41] alsaconf [00:41] Rat409: It's still Friday where you are? [00:41] oobe: thanks. [00:42] SKGE is loaded for the Marvell Lan card [00:42] lol actually no , i fail :P [00:42] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:42] lost track of time [00:42] lol [00:42] It's still Friday here, about 20 minutes to go. :P [00:43] kiethvez, dunno on data loss on converting from ntfs to xfs..always wise to backup in case [00:43] WTH? so I ran rc.inet1 after changing the ip and mask and all and ifconfig says it's 169? [00:43] it's relativity... [00:43] Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. THAT'S relativity [00:43] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [00:43] lol [00:43] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [00:43] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [00:43] sit with a pretty bitchy girl for an hour and it seems like forever to get into her pants [00:44] THAT's relativity [00:44] lol. [00:45] :3 [00:46] what if I just say screw it till I can go buy a net ethernet card and throw this 802.11n wifi card in until then.. [00:46] new [00:47] shutdown now [00:47] let's go to kde... [00:47] d3mn0id (~daniel@dsl-247-252-138.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:48] it's right by the router, I'll get what 130+ Mbps? card says 300.. [00:48] xsamurai (~fahad@69.43.199.101) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [00:49] mario (mario@213.147.122.31) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:49] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:50] can I down another pint before this restarts? bets? [00:50] $50 on yes [00:51] mario (mario@213.147.122.31) joined ##slackware. [00:51] ohhh too bad only half of it [00:51] pay up courtschunk@paypal.com [00:52] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:53] xsamurai (~fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [00:55] do they make multiple interface ethernet cards? like 2+ interfaces for gigabit? [00:55] nix_chix0r (~Hello@97-127-211-139.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:59] WOW nice it detected this wifi card.. WOW this is nice compared to what it was in 99! [00:59] ive seen cards with two rj45 jacks.... [00:59] when I dropped out of CISCO [01:00] d3mn0id (~daniel@dsl-247-252-138.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [01:00] yeah that's what I mean, like 2 ports .. both functioning at 1000Mbps.. [01:00] alsamixer returns "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory". What could that point to? [01:01] I might need help with rc.wireless [01:01] you don't modify rc.wireless, and you most likely don't need rc.wireless.conf [01:02] modify rc.inet1.conf [01:02] and if necessary, wpa_supplicant.conf [01:03] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:03] just USE_DHCP="yes"? [01:05] let me consult the wiki and stop bugging you all [01:06] iwconfig, thats a new command [01:07] press some buttons, press some buttons :-p [01:08] d3mn0id (~daniel@dsl-247-252-138.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [01:11] Am using WPA-PSK2.. [01:11] oops.. WPA-PSK [01:11] oops.. WPA2-PSK [01:11] I don't think slackware supports this [01:12] have another Guiness [01:12] Maybe it will after another [01:13] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.142) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:13] kiethvez: Do you have a gui environment? [01:14] If so, try installing wicd from extra/ [01:14] It makes this kind of stuff easy. [01:14] I can load X I guess.. was trying to get everything setup first but let me see if it will start [01:15] oooooo pretty xwindows!! [01:16] where is it? /usr/bin? ?? [01:17] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:17] can't believe X started right away, even on a Nvidia Geforce 310.. [01:19] phukt (~phukt@71-90-99-202.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:19] phukt (~phukt@71-90-99-202.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:20] kiethvez: opensource driver ? [01:20] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:22] Well, just saying, heck of a lot easier getting x to start than it was the first time I did it back then :) [01:22] XF86Config still exist? [01:23] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:25] where can I find wicd???? [01:25] /extra [01:26] ruben231 (~ITadmin@125.212.40.6) joined ##slackware. [01:26] yes.. but where is /extra [01:26] hi guys i have a hosted server on a hosting sompany, how do i install slackware-server on it...any suggestion..? [01:28] ruben231, there is no slackware-server [01:28] ruben231, just slackware. Asking that kind of question suggests that you haven't done any reading or anything, which means this will probably end in disaster anyway [01:29] ruben231, links are in /topic [01:30] ow [01:30] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:30] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:31] hiptobecubic: what i mean is slackware distro to be used as my server distro [01:31] Oy vey, so many more new commands in slack [01:32] you must been away for a while, kiethvez :) [01:32] WOW KDE is AWESOME NOW! [01:33] 12 years fhobia.. I need help bigtime, I'm used to asking questings but I think I just need to really do some reading instead.. [01:33] ruben231, usually people in here suggest that you install all of slackware to avoid missing dependencies. [01:33] kiethvez, damn man lol [01:33] kiethvez: :) i only answer the easy ones [01:33] kiethvez, i wasn't here 12 years ago, but i'm sure it's wildly different. [01:34] kiethvez, the slackbook has a lot of what you need to know to start [01:34] I played with slack as my first go at linux at what.. kernel .99?? [01:34] !? [01:34] been using windows since then ? [01:34] drunks always make shit up [01:34] I am NOT joking!!! [01:34] lol mancha [01:34] anyway [01:35] kiethvez, /topic [01:35] read your heart out [01:35] ruben231 (ITadmin@125.212.40.6) left ##slackware. [01:35] After 99 when I dropped out of CISCO I pretty much dropped computers altogether and have been running windows on my home boxes.. now I'm setting up a server in my laundry room and I'm all about learning it again.. [01:36] the amazing thing is kernel .99 was less than 150k lines of code [01:36] Action: King_Ozzy formats kiethvez's computers and installs Linux. [01:36] Mancha: you're right I am a drunk and I do make a lot of shit up, but I'm telling the truth lol [01:36] kiethvez: EVIL! [01:36] anyone care to guess how much it is now?! [01:36] ok; i have prob; need counsel. [01:36] Action: snL20 formats and installs linux on all of kiethvez computers [01:36] 1 million [01:36] Nick change: uberDisciple -> SunTzu [01:37] about 94 or 95 when I first installed slack from a floppy? [01:37] fhobia, is that true? i have no idea [01:37] i just threw it out there [01:37] neither zgv nor links -g work here (links wont copmile clean) [01:37] sid77 (~sid77@moko.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [01:37] sid77 (~sid77@moko.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:37] svga isnt achievable [01:37] approaching 13 million [01:37] kiethvez i am just screwing with you. [01:37] d3mn0id (~daniel@dsl-247-252-138.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [01:37] 150k line for the kernel?? that sounds high [01:37] Action: King_Ozzy formats snL20's brain and installs a random thought generator [01:37] though i am amazed you used slack version 1 [01:38] Mounting a USB Flash Drive fails with "Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.24" (uid=1000 pid=4385 comm="exo-mount --hal-udi /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/v") interface="org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member="Mount" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="org.freedesktop.Hal" (uid=0 pid=3540 comm="/usr/sbin/hald --daemon=yes "))." [01:38] back then people were using sls [01:38] xor King_Ozzy, King_Ozzy [01:38] Is there anything that you guys can deduce from that? [01:38] or wait? was it the linux kernel .99 not slack .99 [01:38] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:38] hal: 1 d3mn0id: 0 [01:38] fhobia: lol. [01:38] any suggestions? [01:38] I forget, wish I knew [01:39] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:39] slack appeared in 1993, that was when the .99 kernel was around [01:39] mancha i started with slack in '94 [01:39] So yeah, it was around then.. I was 14.. [01:40] Slackware never had a 0.99 dist-version [01:40] must have been kernel .99 then.. I remember .99 [01:40] correct [01:40] you're old :) [01:40] ok so where is /extra/wicd? [01:41] on a dvd [01:41] I am NOT old, I'm 29.. [01:41] or ftp dir [01:41] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:41] pff :) [01:41] Is wicd on the slack 13 disk?? [01:42] find on http://rlworkman.net/pkgs [01:42] fella just told me to run it in X and I can't find it.. [01:42] look there [01:42] it's in there [01:42] kiethvez: wasn't on mine. [01:43] kiethvez found it yet? [01:43] ok well otherwise is there a util to configure my wireless card for WPA2-PSK in X or other ? [01:44] wicd needs to be installed from the extra/ directory of the installer disk. [01:44] I installed everything [01:44] I don't need riddles guys just answers lol [01:45] kiethvez: did you install the cp too ? [01:45] then get a src pkg and compile freshly/ [01:45] cp? [01:45] I installed everything [01:45] kiethvez: extra/ is a directory on the same level as slackware/. The installer won't grab it because extra/ things are, well, extra. [01:46] oh well shoot [01:46] lol [01:46] putting the disc in now then.. that's all ya had to say ! [01:46] dngr (~dngr@n11649137153.netvigator.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:46] kiethvez was probably looking for the punch cards [01:46] lmao [01:46] hehe [01:47] ok so here, neither zgv nor links will connect to svga; idears? [01:47] I am really very glad though that there are people here though, it's nice.. thought IRC was dead [01:47] marra (marra@fly.srk.fer.hr) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:47] I never used punch cards, I did use cartridges on my PCjr though [01:48] i used paper tape [01:48] kiethvez: how dare you even suggest something as ludicrous as the death of irc! [01:48] omfg KDE.. how useful [01:48] IRC still has its uses. [01:48] No need to install everything in extra/, just the stuff that interests you. [01:49] I'm thinking that's probably the kde3 libs. [01:49] I found extra.. holy christ.. it mounted my cdrom automatically? I need a cig.. BRB [01:49] Which are useless to pretty much anybody these days. [01:49] jdk is there [01:49] lol kiethvez [01:49] ok, my turn? [01:49] wtf is up with hal. [01:50] do i need to add udev rules to use usb flash disks? [01:50] I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that. [01:50] Nope, you just need to be in the plugdev group. [01:50] daves not here [01:50] jkwood: ok... [01:51] SunTzu, does it show any errors when you try to open them in svga? [01:51] d3mn0id (~daniel@dsl-247-252-138.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [01:52] MLanden mornin; zgv scrolls through all its vid tests searching and then quits w/o error [01:53] SunTzu, if you run in through gdb,anything come to light? [01:53] strace would be a better start [01:53] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:53] since the bin isnt made with -g -ggdb [01:55] MLanden chkd for svgalib mod loaded: still failed. [01:56] does slack come with a gui ftp client? [01:57] If you tell me I can run BFBC2 on X.. I will probably ditch Win7 altogether.. [01:57] Reticenti: gftp, though I prefer lftp. [01:57] kiethvez: You can try it with Wine. They just released a new version today. [01:58] damn, zgv doesnt write to stderr [01:58] can I install a wicd pkg from dolphin in KDE? [01:58] get the source [01:58] SunTzu: Why the heck would he do that? There's an official package sitting right there! [01:58] I found it under extra! [01:58] which? [01:59] kiethvez: installpkg [01:59] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:59] someone show me ls-l /dev/svga [01:59] kiethvez: No graphical hooks for the package management, use installpkg or upgradepkg --install-new on the command line. [01:59] It should be somewhere under /media [01:59] Probably with a label starting with a capital letter. [01:59] kk [02:00] ls-l /dev/svga? [02:01] I'm hooked again.. thanks to this channels dialogue [02:02] tar archive is corrupt, on the slack install CD??????? [02:03] jkwood: you're right, lftp is nice :) [02:03] cd media have been known to be botched, scratched, etc [02:03] kiethvez: you can get it from any slackware mirror [02:03] SunTzu, ok...is there a /etc/vga ? [02:03] svga [02:03] could be time to double check the check sum [02:04] I just burned the shit today [02:04] kiethvez: did you check the md5sum first? [02:04] MLanden ls -l /dev/svga pls? [02:05] kodekill (~kodekill@63-248-173-11.static.logl002.digis.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:05] i've also seen corruption on certain drives.. drive 1 produces corrupt data, drive 2 works perfectly [02:05] Everything else installed fine [02:05] tends to be with a cd burned at top speed and drive 1 is an older drive [02:06] seen cheap media cause weirdness too [02:06] I just bought the drive today [02:06] I just bought the media today [02:06] just kidding [02:06] kiethvez: if you didn't check the md5sum then you can't know [02:07] just download it from a mirror, will take a few minutes [02:07] oh ok fine.. [02:08] Actually no, I'm going to grab a new NIC tomorrow so there's no use in setting up this wifi card [02:08] d3mn0id (~daniel@dsl-247-252-138.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [02:08] stuart__ (~stuart@115.135.88.98) joined ##slackware. [02:08] Kaapa (~Something@bl9-107-216.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [02:09] why wont anyone exec a ls -l for me? [02:09] ? [02:09] SunTzu: /porn dirs need no exposure. [02:09] your keyboard broken? [02:09] I'll do one better, how bout ls -ratl? [02:10] pls dont fuck with me, it's too damn early in the morning. [02:10] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. [02:10] ok night slackware thanks for the entertainment, I'll visit again soon [02:10] :) seeya kiethvez [02:10] and help.. ! [02:10] Kaapa (~Something@bl6-211-195.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [02:10] kiethvez (~IceChat7@97-86-247-125.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Quit: IceChat - Its what Cool People use [02:11] sometimes, you folks suck greatly. it's really damn annoying. [02:11] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-68-122.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [02:11] lol. [02:11] no idea what he was talking about [02:11] i guess i should've scrolled up [02:11] :3 [02:11] fhobia: me neither. [02:12] stuart_ (~stuart@115.135.231.0) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:13] fhobia, was talking 'bout if anybody had /dev/svga [02:13] oh, i don't have it [02:13] i have none , sadly :P [02:13] thats a very personal question [02:14] i feel naked after doing that ls [02:14] lol [02:14] i never talk about svga ona first date [02:14] :3 [02:15] lets talk about alsa. why does alsamixer tell me "function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory"? [02:16] andrew_46 (andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) left ##slackware. [02:19] d3mn0id: Have you run alsaconf ? [02:19] jkwood: yeah. [02:20] Hmm... No clue then. [02:20] it lists my card and everything. [02:20] no sound. [02:20] You made sure to unmute everything in alsamixer ? [02:21] do you hear other sounds? [02:21] That's the problem, can't run alsamixer. [02:21] mancha: Used to hear KDE startup but that's gone too. [02:22] what about the doorell, phone ring, alarm clock, tv, etc? [02:22] XD [02:22] mancha: I don't live in a Linux smart home, that has nothing to do with alsa and I'm no deaf. [02:23] ok, just trying to rule out all the possibilities here [02:23] so severe wax buildup is probably not it either [02:23] d3mn0id, what is your sound card/chip? [02:24] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) [02:25] d3mn0id: have you changed init at startup recently? [02:25] stuart__: no. [02:25] d3mn0id: we have the same damn problems to the dot [02:25] d3mn0id: somehow i lost sound last time [02:26] stuart__: did you reinstall to fix it as well? [02:26] freakin drivers were working, no error msges, but there was just no sound [02:26] d3mn0id: yeah LOL [02:26] it's contagious! [02:26] stuart__: that sucks. was this also on a lenovo g550? [02:26] d3mn0id: the only thing i remember doing is changing to GUI init at startup, nvidia drivers, and flash, then after the next reboot, sound disappeared [02:26] d3mn0id: dell [02:27] I installed Flash, maybe that's what screwed it. Adobe... [02:27] wonder if it glitchin' with snd_intel8x0? [02:27] d3mn0id: but it's been 1 month now and things have been fine, so i have no idea what caused that as well. no one here knew either [02:27] d3mn0id: what have you done since installation other than flash? [02:28] d3mn0id: wicd installation, added myself to some groups to get plugdev working, didn't modify anything on startup. [02:28] lol. [02:29] still in audio? [02:29] d3mn0id, no sound if you're logged as root? [02:29] mancha: audio group does not exist on my laptop. [02:30] xakopod (~teleph@CPE-24-209-149-190.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:30] MLanden: I'll try that. [02:30] which group owns /dev/dsp? [02:30] mancha: how do i check that? [02:31] ls -l [02:31] ls -l /dev/dsp [02:31] audio owns it. [02:31] Nick change: stuart__ -> stu_ [02:31] so you have a group audio [02:32] add your user to it [02:33] somehow i can't add my user to audio... [02:34] Niccke (1000@ip-57-197-241-92.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [02:34] how are you trying to do that? [02:34] running groups still returns "users plugdev netdev" although I used the same command to add myself to the rest of those groups. [02:35] usermod -G users,plugdev,audio,netdev daniel [02:35] with root permissions, of course. [02:35] logout/login [02:35] d3mn0id (~daniel@dsl-247-252-138.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:38] amnesia (~amnesia@c-68-54-184-2.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:41] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-151.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:42] kinda doubt that'd work [02:43] d3mn0id (~daniel@dsl-247-252-138.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [02:44] Sound! The glory! [02:44] Thanks guys. [02:44] o snap [02:44] hahaha [02:44] welcome [02:44] stu_: Adding yourself to a group always requires a logout/login. [02:44] And yes, antiquated things like device permissions ARE still used. [02:45] Good for security, I would think. [02:45] "antiquated" being said with tongue firmly in cheek. [02:45] sure, people forget linux is a multiuser system [02:45] i don't want user xyz playing cyndi lauper on my boxen [02:45] mancha: definitely not. [02:46] mancha: did you watch cyndi on celebrity apprentice, didn't know she could be that annoying [02:46] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:46] i most certainly did not, and will not! :) [02:47] had to wiki that wrestler she was with..Lou Albano...seems like he died last year [02:50] Now, I can definitely say that Slackware is the shizzle! [02:52] wth there's jagged alliance for linux? [02:52] sweet [02:53] d3mn0id, siked to have the FIFA World Cup being hosted in your country this summer? [02:54] MLanden: Nah. Means nothing much to me. [02:54] d3mn0id, ok [02:55] MLanden: Sure, I could go watch England play 10 KM away from my home in a massive, tricked out stadium, but it really isn't as exciting or worthwhile as Germany made it. [02:56] Most people in the stadiums will be South Africans, and South Africans make noise with an infernal thing we call the "Vuvuzela". [02:56] So, yeah, I love my ears, don't want them ruined. [02:56] is that afrikaans for fart? [02:57] mancha: I believe it's Zulu or Xhosa. Don't know what it means. [02:57] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [02:57] But it might as well be, for all I care. [02:57] ah, looks like a longish cornet [02:58] mancha: Yeah, but the sound it makes is a thousand times less elegant. [02:59] i'll take your word for it. so not a magestic bass like a conch horn (aka pacific islander) but more shrill? [02:59] What I'm happy about is that as a 14-year old schoolboy I get 7 weeks of vacation for nothing. [03:00] Lets see if we can find some audio... [03:01] mancha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrYb9qtO8OQ [03:01] Sounds like a hornet's nest is what I'd say. [03:04] take the vuvuzela users out of the audio group [03:04] Damn straight! [03:05] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:06] tsccof (~tsccof@187.52.23.140) joined ##slackware. [03:08] blaines (~blaines@64-130-243-194.sparkplugbb.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [03:08] Now I want to install Rhythmbox or Banshee... Which will most likely be easier? [03:08] d3mn0id, you have gnome installed? [03:09] MLanden: Nope. [03:09] hey is there some sort of trick to getting flashplayer working on linux in 64bit slackware-13.0? [03:09] it works [03:09] :-) [03:09] Delahunt: There's a 64 bit version of adobe flash, right? [03:09] [03:10] take sbo's slackbuild [03:10] yes, no adobe breaks 64 bit systems natively too [03:10] *now adobe [03:10] mancha: haha. [03:10] yup, it's not worse than on 32bit but not better either [03:10] is not there a way to watch flash content without having the player installed? [03:11] gnash [03:11] I have read something about it [03:11] or download the file and mplayer [03:11] related to HTML 5 [03:11] there's no magic trick to convert one to the other [03:11] hmm, a bloke posted he was watching an youtube video on an x86_64 system using HTML5] [03:11] tsccof: I heard something about YouTube offering HTML5 sometime, that would be awesome. [03:12] whats the advantages of using slackware over windows [03:12] html5 provides a