[00:00] . [00:01] anybody have a problem where fullscreening youtube videos have a huge blank border around them ? [00:01] ~ [00:01] its not really full screen at all [00:02] It's flash.. flash being broken is normal affairs [00:02] uh oh, seems like its because i use two monitors [00:02] so it scales funny [00:06] Does slackware's firefox not include DOM_INSPECTOR? [00:06] domi is an addon as of 3.x i think [00:07] mancha, ok thank you :) (new to this) [00:07] i'll show you a dom, if you know what i mean [00:07] >:) [00:07] yeah go to add-ons and put dom in the search, then install [00:08] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: "just to eat" [00:08] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-99-60-229-146.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[00:22] oh yes [00:23] in -offtopic all bets are off.. no rules about being a family chan :P [00:23] without a doubt [00:23] um, can't be said for here either [00:23] macavity: haha, only when it comes to computer ;) [00:23] also, i got mplayer to sue vdpau \0/ [00:23] use* [00:23] of course 'slackware' and 'family' typically are mutually exclusive, unless you're volkerdi or alienBOB [00:24] now i'm trying to get smpalyer to use it.. [00:24] ahem [00:24] ;-) [00:24] Reticenti: lol.. "sm-player?" [00:24] someone feels left out [00:24] indeed [00:24] s&mpalyer mroe like it [00:24] s&mplayer* [00:24] sorry rob [00:25] veritos: sokay :) [00:25] Spiegel (n=spike@ip-166-187.interbild.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:25] veritos: it was a refference to the guidlines mentioned in the topic [00:30] ohdannyboy (i=1000@96.254.20.102) joined ##slackware. [00:35] [G]Solarisk (n=3wr@chello089072048128.chello.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [00:35] TClayton_ (n=TClayton@nc-76-3-71-178.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:37] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:37] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-61-144.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:37] so, for some reason, in smplayer, the video doesnt work, but the sound does, and video works in mplayer [00:38] ditch it.. get a decent frontend [00:38] like what? [00:38] ok, open the file in both, watch the video on mplayer and use smplayer for sound. [00:38] lol [00:38] KDE, xfce or *box? [00:38] mpalyer also does sound [00:38] xfce [00:38] gmplayer? [00:39] not in sbo [00:39] it is in slackware [00:40] just type "gmplayer" [00:40] nope [00:40] oh [00:40] didn't you say earlier you was going back to winders? [00:40] heh [00:40] i got x to work [00:40] who did? [00:41] i did [00:41] Action: macavity points at himself [00:41] with help form this channel [00:41] keep the spoon. [00:41] lol [00:41] and i'm not using gmplayer because it doesnt use vdpau [00:42] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:42] doesnt gmplayer just call mplayer with the mplayer's own config file?!? [00:42] idk [00:42] try forcing vdpay in ~/.mplayer/config [00:43] how do i do that? the file is empty [00:43] google [00:43] woo [00:44] good ol google [00:44] acidtripper (n=gon@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [00:44] i think it is jsut like the command line switches [00:44] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [00:44] vo=vdpau [00:46] fire|bird: found this python script works fine in tint2 systray doesn't get everything but handy should rescan every time its run http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/5769/adesk-menu-a-menu-for-your-systray/ [00:46] Rat409: you need to use punctuation :P [00:46] i know [00:47] johny-b-goode (n=bobby@24.238.236.224) joined ##slackware. [00:47] TClayton (n=TClayton@76.3.97.23) joined ##slackware. [00:47] Rat409: cool, thanks. [00:47] no deps other than python [00:48] SiegeX- (i=219@c-76-102-150-28.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:50] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:51] johny-b-goode (n=bobby@24.238.236.224) left ##slackware. [00:51] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [00:53] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:55] . [00:55] ~ [00:57] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. 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[01:09] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:d7) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:09] ...somehow? [01:09] redtricycle: when you find out, please tell me [01:10] yes [01:10] indeed [01:10] you use linux QoS and queuing [01:10] Garak_ (i=garak@142.68.131.33) left irc: [01:10] antiwire: "delay" or is there are rate thingie? [01:10] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [01:10] look into ip and tc [01:10] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:10] the iproute2 tools and "tc" [01:10] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [01:10] ahh [01:11] ...wow, so my guess was correct? [01:11] o_o [01:11] never used a firewall on linux before...new things to learn everyday [01:12] Okay, before I delve into it [01:12] can I change the connection speed at any time? [01:12] my goal is to choke my traffic depending on the number of peers connected to the router [01:12] you will just need to figure out how to script that [01:12] kingbeowulf (n=kingbeow@ip11.73.dhcp-acs2.511.iinet.com) left irc: "Landru! Guide us!" [01:12] marra (i=marra@fly.srk.fer.hr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:13] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-61-144.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:13] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:14] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [01:14] qdisk tbf looks like the discipline to use [01:15] hyke (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:16] woo, i fixed smpalyer all by myself [01:16] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.91.126) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:16] config file? [01:16] since i recompiled mplayer, it was in a different location than what mplayer was using it [01:16] the mpalyer i recompiled is in /usr/local/bin/mplayer [01:17] and it was using the old version that was in /usr/bin/mplayer [01:17] ok, then you screwed up [01:17] lol [01:17] and you didnt remove the mplayer package [01:17] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [01:17] before you made the new one [01:17] removepkg mplayer ? [01:17] but other than that, good job [01:17] i think it is time you read the slackbook [01:18] i've read it alot [01:18] a lot* [01:18] you apparently remember very little of it [01:18] how so? [01:18] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.50.247) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:18] if you have to ask how to remove a package to be sure your memory cant be that good :P [01:19] my favorite is explodepkg [01:19] lol [01:19] antiwire: i *always* forget to dump the package in an empty dir before i explode it :P [01:20] acidtripper (n=gon@190.19.235.226) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:20] and then you scream [01:20] macavity: always screams any way :) [01:20] like a girl at that [01:20] antiwire: you have no idea how many times ive had to clean up my ~/bin and ~/lib because they were all of the sudden inhabitated by aliens :P [01:20] i always unzip -l *.zip files [01:21] antiwire: your just jealus of my pretty voice *sniff* [01:21] because they aren't packaged as nicely and tar.gz files (i.e. always in a folder) [01:21] not as consistent [01:21] macavity: If that's pretty, I'd hate to hear ugly. [01:21] fire|bird: lol [01:22] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.24.221) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:23] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:24] macavity: you mean ~/usr/bin and ~/usr/lib ?? [01:24] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:24] redtricycle: when i am lucky [01:25] redtricycle: when it is a system package i am fiddling with its my own dirs (i have ~/bin and ~/lib) that gets pwnd [01:25] like last time i wanted to look inside the glibc package... [01:27] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:29] lowkyalur (n=low@88.70.17.255) joined ##slackware. [01:32] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: No route to host [01:32] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. 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[01:48] show us the output of ls -alhd [01:49] yeah ls -ld i guess [01:49] no, mancha is right. no exec perms. [01:49] I actually never realized thru all these years of usage that you need x perm to ls into folder. [01:49] lol [01:49] how long is all these years? [01:49] it's one of those overloaded functions that depend on what kind of inode entry it is [01:50] last 3 years of linux. before that in college all 4 years of undergrad. so at least 7 years of usage. [01:51] lol, it's funny. [01:52] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:52] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [01:54] gfd0 (n=r8o@234-237-178-94.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: "Out" [01:56] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [02:01] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. 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[02:43] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:44] The-Croupier (n=The-Crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [02:44] greetings :) [02:45] i don't want to jinx us but it does seem like the network has finally stabilized, eh? [02:45] why is it that when i dont login in this channel that i feel something is missing from my day going good :( [02:45] also i found this in a channels join welcome message, maybe it could help with the new ppl joining: "Carefully explaining your problem is half the solution." [02:46] hows everybody doing today? [02:47] very good [02:48] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:48] i reinstalled slack, got a new video card, made X work with the card, and got vdpau to work with my media player [02:48] sounds nice ;) [02:49] :) [02:50] The-Croupier (n=The-Crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [02:52] hyke (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:55] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH VAI SENTAR NO COLO DO CAPETAAAAAAAAA AAAAAA" [02:55] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [02:56] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.75.52) left irc: "Leaving" [02:57] arghh2d2 (n=arghh2d2@cpe-98-30-113-178.woh.res.rr.com) left irc: "." [02:59] arghh2d2 (n=arghh2d2@cpe-98-30-113-178.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:04] what is that vdpau for? just heard that a few times, don't know anything about it [03:10] ah..got it. hm my cpu load is near zero when playing things with mplayer..why would i need that [03:10] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-140.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:14] tomi_3074 (n=neptun@217.117.141.42) joined ##slackware. [03:15] The-Croupier (n=The-Crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. 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[03:25] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-SIX-SIXTY-FIVE.MIT.EDU) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:27] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:31] cteg, most ppl only worry about it for HD playback [03:31] especially h264 [03:31] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.218.185.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:37] ok, i don't have a blue ray player or something, just got a hd movie trailer recently [03:39] can't see any difference to load...but i'll have to see when i get a real hd movie or blue ray [03:40] alienBOB: how come you are op today? also, is there a rule (why and when kind of thing) to kick trollers or irrelevant people? [03:40] means i would have to install libvdpau and recompile mplayer? [03:40] cteg: why are you writing all this in the channel? [03:41] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-140.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:42] can't see any special topic speaking, so off topic is allowed, as far as i got out of that channel faq [03:42] The-Croupier, he was asking about vdpau [03:42] or do you just about making an idle record or something [03:42] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [03:43] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-242-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:43] cteg: there is #slackofftopic ;) if that is the case.. if what oobe is saying is true than i apologise.. otherwise please dont fill the channel log with nothing... [03:43] oobe: sorry if that true ;) [03:44] again, offtopic allowed if no offending things. [03:44] as if i would talk and talk and talk the whole day. [03:44] well it sought of is on topic since vpdau is linux related [03:44] Hermann (n=Hermannn@85.226.81.253) joined ##slackware. [03:44] yeah that too. [03:45] anyway to summerise vdpau is good for single cpu machines that playback HD content its very popular among mythtv users i use it with mythtv [03:45] |Limulus| (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:46] since it does not affect playback quality and makes all video below 10% cpu even 1080p [03:46] mplayer needs a core2duo with more than 2.6GHz to play HD h264 fluently. Even then the cpu load is very high [03:47] pprkut, the requirements are lower if mplayer use's a 512Mg vdpau enabled graphics card [03:48] yeah, I'm speaking for mplayer without vdpau [03:48] it seems i did'nt had a real hd movie reading that [03:49] check out the blender movies [03:49] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:50] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:51] but mplayer used h264, saw that...might be just 720p or how ever this is called [03:51] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [03:52] cteg: what resolution is your screen? [03:52] its 1650x1080 [03:52] that trailer was, i think 1280x7xx [03:52] not sure [03:53] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [03:53] cteg: right. It was HD if the mplayer window was bigger than your screen [03:54] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [03:55] actually 1280x720 is HD [03:55] there are 2 HD sizes [03:57] "if that is true". no need to guess, just look. *mumble* [03:58] I do not consider 720p HD. It's what they sell you as "HD ready" maybe, but nothing more [03:58] yeah i'll see when i get a "real" hd movie. [03:59] gerrh^^ (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:59] pprkut: 720p = poor mans HD, can't afford 1080 :P [03:59] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_television#High-definition_display_resolutions it is HD [04:00] why freeciv (game) missing in packages? [04:00] no update for 13.0 yet in sbo [04:02] get the 12.2 slackbuild and modify the build just for freeciv 2.1.10 [04:02] Can I build it from ports? [04:02] oobe: that's marketing, nothing more [04:03] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:03] fire|bird++ [04:03] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: No route to host [04:06] redtricy1le (n=redtricy@adsl-99-55-166-106.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[04:38] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-hatgjapexbwlkyex) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [04:38] Morn [04:38] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:39] Evening [04:41] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5653.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:41] sirslacker1 (n=aligp@p579B5653.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:42] sirslacker1 (n=aligp@p579B5653.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:42] peeps [04:43] is there a way to probe where my netwokr gets blocked [04:43] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [04:43] traceroute [04:43] Nick change: Guest11176 -> pragma_ [04:44] but wouldnt it work only if there is actually net ? [04:44] aza2ul: you need to be more clear as to your problem [04:44] Masterx831 (n=masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [04:47] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:47] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [04:48] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [04:49] metriccwrench (n=ii@65.163.214.135) joined ##slackware. [04:49] Hermann (n=Hermannn@85.226.81.253) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:52] jakemills (n=jakemill@91.84.108.143) joined ##slackware. [04:53] When I turn off the wireless on my laptop, it fails to recognise it when I turn it back on. Is there something I can type in the command line to bring the wireless device back up? (I turn it off to save battery life) [04:56] Nick change: Guest39360 -> reallove [04:56] depends on why its not working [04:56] is the module still loaded? [04:57] jakemills, are you using the rfkill module? [04:57] jakemills, i had that problem with mine. Either reload your wireless drivers everytime or don't use that modules. [04:58] hiptobecubic, if I don't use the module... won't it just stop working all the time? :-S [04:58] jakemills, it depends. Do you have a hardware switch or keyboard button [04:58] hiptobecubic, also I'm very new to this... should I google how to load my wireless drivers again or are you going to save me those valuable 2 seconds sand tell me :-D [04:59] hiptobecubic, hardware switch [04:59] jakemills, then switching it off should be good enough. If you want to test it, switch it off and see if you see any wireless networks, if you don't then you're good. [04:59] jakemills, reloading drivers depends on your card, do you now what it is? [04:59] know* [04:59] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. 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[05:03] hiptobecubic, I do [05:03] should be as straight forward as `modprobe -r ath5k` followed by `modprobe ath5k` [05:03] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [05:04] MoZes (n=mozes@217.10.129.81) left irc: "leaving" [05:04] jakemills, make sure your switch is on :) [05:04] I will try that... then depending on whether it works I might be back on here in 10 seconds or five minutes after a reboot :-D [05:04] MoZes (n=mozes@bourbon.biscuit.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:04] sure [05:05] slackie (n=x@cb-217-129-169-44.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:06] jakemills (n=jakemill@91.84.108.143) left irc: "Leaving" [05:07] crashdata (n=crashdat@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:09] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.82.110) left irc: Connection timed out [05:09] juice (i=juice@65.28.100.209) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:15] Agiofws (n=nnnAgiof@athedsl-431181.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Nick collision from services. 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[05:21] huh [05:21] I guess he didn't make it [05:21] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:23] guys, is it possible to connect to 4 different wireless connections and add the speed/bandwidth of each in one connection? cos someone said he can do that...(now it could be a lie) [05:28] The-Croupier: bonding is only possible if supported by the switch(es) that bond the connection on the other side [05:29] The-Croupier: you *could* round robin the connections so that each new connection uses a different one.. its not easy but its do-able.. but for one connection to use the bandwidth of all four links they would have to be bonded [05:29] byteframe (n=bytefram@98.118.72.35) joined ##slackware. [05:29] i dont know of ANY wi-fi equipment capable of bonding [05:29] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-sovbnjqevsvetszc) joined ##slackware. [05:29] not to mention you will be limited to the threughput speed of the medium [05:29] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:29] ie 54mbps for G [05:30] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [05:30] 108 [05:30] tell your friend he's a moron [05:30] Zordrak: http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/29/the-slurpr-wifi-aggregator-promises-free-broadband-and-jail/ [05:30] O_o [05:30] stupid long links [05:31] Zordrak: it'd need routing too [05:32] SiegeX: that thing almost certainly has some kind of round robin routing table [05:33] so its the best available option without bonding [05:33] that must be so because as you said, bonding requires end to end support [05:33] but one connection stream will be limited to the wifi connection that stream is using... so will likely provide unpredictable speeds [05:34] so a switch with 6 antennas and thurough use of tc,iproute2 and iptables connmark I would guess [05:35] + [05:35] *thorough [05:35] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:38] _abc_ (n=no@unaffiliated/ccbbaa) joined ##slackware. [05:38] <_abc_> hello [05:38] <_abc_> has anyone updated slackware kernel to latest ? from 13.0 stock 2.6.29.6 ? any pitfalls ? [05:38] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:38] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118.160.168.140) joined ##slackware. [05:40] many and several [05:40] theres a number of blogs available mith info [05:40] none to hand. giyf [05:40] <_abc_> pitfalls or kernels (many) ? [05:41] both [05:41] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:42] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118.160.168.140) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:42] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [05:43] Nick change: C00re_ -> C00re [05:45] <_abc_> is there a problem if i downgrade the main tick from 1kHz to 100Hz? should work better on older/weaker machines, right? [05:45] meh.. use dynticks [05:45] <_abc_> asterisk does not like that currently [05:45] orite [05:45] then the downgrade *Ought* to work [05:46] <_abc_> what does Memtest in kernel options do again? [05:46] i'm running at 300Hz...i don't see the slightest difference to 1000 [05:46] memtest is not a kernel option, it's a separate program that may be included in the install cd to run hardware memory checkign [05:46] last I looked [05:47] _abc_: in-kernel memtest.. allows boot with memtest as a param [05:47] <_abc_> ok [05:48] alisonken1noc: 2.9.26 release notes on kernelnewbies [05:48] well - learn something new every day :) [05:48] i want 2.9.x! [05:49] especially with a 2.9 kernel :) [05:49] now with timemachine [05:49] <_abc_> mancha: what are you on, 1.2.13 ? ;) [05:50] slackie (n=x@cb-217-129-169-44.netvisao.pt) left irc: "Papaver Somniferum" [05:51] Zordrak: i read all you said... if understood correctly,... it is do-able... but very hard. ;) and not needed basically [05:54] <_abc_> whats a Fusion MPT device driver ? [05:54] fzi (n=fzi@201.10.44.3) left irc: "leaving" [05:57] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:58] Rrrr (n=kalaitis@84.15.114.128) left irc: "leaving" [05:58] Rrrr (n=kalaitis@84.15.114.128) joined ##slackware. [05:58] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:59] lQg2 (i=1000@217-231-178-94.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: "leaving" [06:00] RLa (n=rla@133.220.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [06:00] _abc_: www.lsi.com/.../insight.../fusion_mpt/fusion_tech_paper1106.pdf <--- pdf for fusion mpt devices [06:00] Rrrr (n=kalaitis@84.15.114.128) left irc: Client Quit [06:00] why can't remote clients connect x server on slackware anymore? [06:01] it used to work in 12.2 but not in 13 [06:01] they can - but you have to setup remote X connectivity [06:01] alisonken1home, what does that mean? [06:01] i run xhost+ on machine with display [06:02] it means your slackware box has to be setup to allow remote X connectivity which includes passing security checks so hackers can't just take over your box [06:02] then i run export DISPLAY=display_machine_ip:0.0 on remote machine and try to start the program [06:02] are you trying to setup remote X desktop or just allow X programs to be displayed on remote computer? [06:03] xhost+ is run on the client, not the slackware server [06:03] remote X programs to show on my machine [06:03] alisonken1home, how so? [06:03] are you running the remote program as root or as your login user? [06:03] x *server* is on my display machine [06:04] alisonken1home, as root [06:04] x server is the computer that is _serving_ the program - your desktop is the client [06:04] alisonken1home, since when? [06:04] since I've been running slackware since 1993 [06:05] x server is what displays picture and remote programs connect to it [06:05] <_abc_> what file system is gfs2?! [06:05] this is what i have always understood [06:06] to be precise - x-server is the X program that controls the connection to the programs, and x-client is the one receiving the display output [06:06] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZH011078.ppp.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [06:06] your desktop is both an x-server (controlling graphics desktop) and client (output of graphical programs) [06:07] hm [06:07] Rrrr (n=kalaitis@84.15.114.128) joined ##slackware. [06:07] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [06:08] anyway, how to i allow remote connections as they used to work in 12.2 and older? [06:08] i tried, non-root accounts on remote machine do not work neither [06:08] are both computers on the same subnet? [06:08] yes [06:09] It has always worked for me. On 13.0 and earlier [06:09] it changed for me after installing 13.0 [06:10] <_abc_> is it ok to enable several code pages in the kernel (not as modules) ? [06:10] Rrrr (n=kalaitis@84.15.114.128) left irc: Client Quit [06:11] running xhost + should be enough [06:11] Ziggy` (n=krotz@85-220-53-115.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) joined ##slackware. [06:11] <_abc_> i am such a n00b. i did a make menuconfig spent 30 minutes on it and then did make distclean [06:11] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:11] Reticenti (n=reticent@68.190.183.125) joined ##slackware. [06:12] RLa: you need to head to /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc [06:12] comment out the nolisten tcp line [06:13] Zordrak: kdm is for remote desktop, isn't it? or does it also control remote program output? [06:13] hm [06:13] i do not need "remote desktop" [06:14] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [06:14] are there two kdms? [06:14] just to allow remotely running program display output on my current machine [06:14] kdm is session manager, isn't it? [06:14] kdm is login manager, yes [06:14] Yes, it is not what you need or want RLa [06:14] "K" Display Manager [06:15] K Desktop Manager(or something?) [06:15] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [06:16] (easytag:27511): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: 192.168.0.100:0.0 [06:16] this is what remote machine says [06:16] Action: jescis had the "D" miss remembered [06:16] quok_ (i=quok@freenode/staff/quok) joined ##slackware. [06:16] 192.168.0.100 is my current machine ip [06:17] RLa: both run Slackaare 13.0 ? [06:17] no, remote machine is ubuntu 9.04 [06:17] RLa, log on using ssh -X 192.168.0.100 [06:18] or setup vnc server on remote machine then install a vnc client in slackware [06:19] hehe, -X did the trick [06:19] thanks a lot [06:19] np [06:19] hm, why i did not need it before? [06:19] _abc__ (n=no@unaffiliated/ccbbaa) joined ##slackware. [06:19] <_abc__> anybody remember on what kernel config page the sysreq key switch is? [06:20] grep SYSREQ .config [06:20] or while in "make menuconfig" press / key then type in SYSREQ [06:20] it tells you where [06:20] <_abc__> it's in kernel hacking section [06:21] ssh -X is for forwarding x sessions, but it also bypasses x authorization settings [06:21] may want to look at ssh -Y and enable trusted X forwarding [06:21] hm [06:22] man ssh and review the -X and -Y settings [06:22] Action: jescis wonders how remote the remote machine is :-\ [06:23] Action: ChickenLittle wonders if he can have a ssh login >8-) [06:24] ChickenLittle, wouldn't he need to create an account for you to do that? [06:25] yep >8-) [06:28] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:28] RLa (n=rla@133.220.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee) left irc: "Leaving" [06:28] timoteoramos (n=timoteor@187.40.79.176) joined ##slackware. [06:31] quok (i=quok@freenode/staff/quok) left irc: Connection timed out [06:32] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [06:34] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [06:36] _abc_ (n=no@unaffiliated/ccbbaa) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:36] My slackware uses a LUKS encrypted /home. The problem is that it asks the password before loading SSH and other services and if the system will reboot w/o anyone to input the pass, the services will not be usable. Any idea what to do? [06:37] Rrrr (n=kalaitis@84.15.114.128) joined ##slackware. [06:37] Azeotrope, not use an encrypted /home ? [06:38] Azeotrope: login as root [06:38] or don't reboot [06:39] well you can still ssh in if you're not root, but your HOME will = / or something [06:39] (right?) [06:40] yes and no. that behavior is controlled by /etc/login.defs [06:40] i.e. so that you can deny root login via ssh and therefore login then su root etc etc etc ... [06:40] # Should login be allowed if we can't cd to the home directory? [06:40] Action: ChickenLittle should make default $HOME, should /home disappear, /tmp [06:40] ah thanks ananke [06:41] what free linux antivurus is there? i'm trying to save this one laptop, only got clamav from a system rescue cd so far... [06:41] clamav is for detection only [06:41] in fact, most freebie antivirus software detects only [06:41] alienBOB: do you by chance have an slackware-ipv6-init package tucked away in your arsenal? [06:41] ananke: and if i have to reboot the system by ssh? and i can't login as root, the LUKS password is asked before the login dialog. [06:41] clamav can't repair? [06:42] Azeotrope: why can't you login as root? [06:42] Kapersky detects and repairs .... [06:42] ChickenLittle: yeah, clamav never had the ability to repair [06:42] ananke, i don't care, i'll remove all the infected files. what else is there that is easily installable in a live cd environment? [06:42] i thought the whole "can't repair" came from the old (non-3g) NTFS [06:42] Action: ChickenLittle shrugs "learn something new every day" [06:42] ananke: as root by ssh? [06:42] ChickenLittle: no, it comes from clamav's lack of functionality to repair infected files [06:42] would've resulted in 1) detect virus, 2) delete file, 3) shrug when windows won't boot [06:42] Azeotrope: yes, as root by ssh [06:43] even if the password for luks is asked before starting ssh? [06:43] if it were me [06:43] Azeotrope: uhmm, the password asking should time out in 30 seconds. or at least it does on most modern distros [06:43] Azeotrope, i think what he's saying is if the machine is rebooted, log into the machine, get root, cryptsetup luksOpen etc, mount etc, logout [06:43] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.218.185) joined ##slackware. [06:43] hmm i should investigate if there's a password timeout [06:43] Rrrr (n=kalaitis@84.15.114.128) left irc: "leaving" [06:44] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-bnvgjqyzomsxkmzd) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [06:44] Azeotrope, the -t (seconds) option in cryptsetup controls timeout [06:45] ChickenLittle: so i can make luks to get over the password step after some (t)ime? [06:45] Rrrr (n=kalaitis@84.15.114.128) joined ##slackware. [06:45] yes [06:45] i didn't see what the default timeout was, it doesn't seem to be mentioned in the man page (let me double-check) [06:45] the boot process it intrerrupted by LUKS right before sssh to be started [06:46] it will continue after that though iirc [06:48] I think i can disable root login for ssh, get into my regular account, gain su and then decrypt home for X11 forwarding or so... Right? [06:49] Azeotrope: that's controlled by DEFAULT_HOME variable in login.defs, aren't you paying attention? [06:49] I do [06:52] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) joined ##slackware. [06:54] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:55] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [06:56] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.46.203) joined ##slackware. [07:00] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.218.185) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:00] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-jdscakynpmpwufjw) joined ##slackware. [07:01] i was reading about tickless/hr timer in the kernel doc. did i get it right that if tickless/hr kicks in after booting the "old" timer frequency is meaningless? [07:01] ChickenLittle (n=robert@ZH011078.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [07:02] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [07:02] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:04] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:24] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:26] anybody has safely resized an ntfs partition using gparted? i'm in need of doing so, but i'm a little nervous. [07:28] Tabmow (i=terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) joined ##slackware. [07:30] slava_dp: get a copy of partition magic [07:31] MoZes, i know partition magic does this fine. *but* did you have luck using gparted? :) [07:31] Oh ok -- no, I wouldn't use it. [07:31] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:31] not when I have partition magic to do it. [07:32] I wouldn't trust gparted to get it right. [07:32] if I had no choice I'd backup the ntfs partition first then try it [07:32] I'm not saying gparted *wouldn't* work fine, but I'd always prefer the commercial tried and tested solution, if my data was important [07:33] esp given the history of ntfs support on linux [07:33] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [07:35] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [07:37] nmoura (n=nmoura@g3.alog.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:38] <_abc__> MoZes: aren't you worried the original bugs might get you (those from m$) [07:41] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:42] duthac (n=user@2.219.68.216.DED-DSL.fuse.net) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [07:43] john_dee (n=id@95-29-8-190.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:44] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [07:44] lol. noobs invasion left the mark on the topic %) [07:45] <_abc__> topic: Security: Gimp ?! [07:45] _abc__: if there were bugs, then partition magic works around them [07:45] and anyway it's a filesystem [07:46] you work with what is on there using the code you're running [07:46] <_abc__> right [07:46] x-ip (n=sakura-s@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [07:47] x-ip (n=sakura-s@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Client Quit [07:47] x-ip (n=sakura-s@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [07:48] alienBOB: WRT kdmrc / nolisten -- i thought it *was* required because the nolisten is passed as an argument to X on start so X just wont listen for anything you try to throw at it unless you do it via a socket [07:50] allend (n=allend@121.220.42.146) joined ##slackware. [07:50] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl5-168-11.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:51] _abc_: IRC is not the place for learning the basics.' (set by rworkman on 17 Äĺęŕáđü 2009 ă. 7:00:35) [07:51] <_abc__> yes, and? [07:52] vnm [07:52] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:52] nvm ^) [07:52] <_abc__> now explain nvm [07:52] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118.160.168.140) joined ##slackware. [07:52] nevermind [07:52] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [07:53] so this part of the topic is in place, after all [07:53] Nick change: feinom_ -> feinom [07:55] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [07:56] Action: MoZes dances [07:56] <_abc__> i am lost in /proc . which file lists the interfaces andtheir configured ip's ? [07:57] _abc__: man proc [07:57] also then do [07:57] strace -o /tmp/log ifconfig -a [07:57] less /tmp/log [07:58] and you will see what /proc files it opens. [07:59] <_abc__> MoZes: boah. ifconfig is documented [07:59] cat /proc/net/arp can be a good start [07:59] _abc__: none [08:00] _abc__: /sys rather than /proc [08:00] and it's time to start getting used to ip, rather than ifconfig :) [08:00] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [08:01] ^ive been hearing that for years [08:01] iputils is still the default everywhere [08:01] <_abc__> ananke: what none? [08:01] most people aint even heard of iproute [08:01] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.82.110) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:01] <_abc__> nasty hack: cat /proc/net/dev|grep ':'|cut -d':' -f1 [08:02] _abc__: there isn't a file in /proc that would have both pieces of information you want [08:03] <_abc__> ananke: i feel better now, that i know that [08:03] awk -F : '/:/ {print $1}' /proc/net/dev <- if you want it all in one command [08:04] <_abc__> thats not what i need [08:04] the command i gave you does exactly the same your command does [08:04] <_abc__> i need the configured ip. ifconfig reads only /proc/dev/net [08:05] <_abc__> where does it get the ip? [08:05] so use ifconfig [08:05] yasu (n=adminroo@tetkyo033107.tkyo.te.ftth2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [08:06] <_abc__> omg ifconfig uses ioctls to read the if configs [08:06] Action: _abc__ palm@face [08:06] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.79.176) joined ##slackware. [08:07] <_abc__> so they have this huge proc fs with all sorts of info no-one ever needs, but there is no way to het the if names and their config data without an ioctl? [08:07] Action: _abc__ screams BSD BSD BSD [08:07] yes. just to piss _you_ off [08:08] _abc__: did you read my answer? [08:08] nah, he's busy whining about bsd [08:09] Action: allend has arrived late, and wonders why a command that does what you want is unacceptable? [08:09] <_abc__> CtrlAltCa: yes that helps a little but if one has complex nets with bridges and stuff that is not enough [08:09] <_abc__> CtrlAltCa: it seems like your solution is still the lowest cost. i will use it [08:10] <_abc__> thanks [08:10] this is too funny [08:11] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [08:14] <_abc__> you don't understand i want bsd, not linux [08:14] Nick change: ikonia_ -> ikonia [08:15] <_abc__> in bsd you can get the interfaces and all that using snmp-like notation and sysctl [08:15] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl5-168-11.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:16] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Client Quit [08:16] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [08:17] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:17] omg, really? [08:17] _abc__: so go use bsd. [08:17] did i just miss something? [08:17] Nick change: _abc__ -> _abc_ [08:18] <_abc_> no... [08:18] 08:14 _abc__> you don't understand i want bsd, not linux [08:18] i wish i was leet enough to use bsd [08:18] <_abc_> well i'm a refugee from debianland and i am trying to make something which requires lots of lubricant and no udevd and other automation from hell [08:18] urthwrm (n=hooch@203-206-17-151.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:19] <_abc_> i spent 3 days of the 7 i used on this project working around automatic things that are not supposed to happen [tm] [08:19] udev is ok, its that damn dbus & hal is what i dont like [08:19] _abc_: so why don't you go with what you _want_? bsd that is [08:19] between dbus & hal, hal is worse [08:19] what's wrong with dbus? :( [08:19] at least hal is on its way out [08:19] Action: _abc_ is looking away [08:20] <_abc_> is there no room on the hearse for the other one too? [08:20] _abc_: seriously. why are you whining in #slackware about linux in general? go complain in #linux. or better yet, just go use bsd [08:20] what's wrong with it _abc_ ? [08:20] Action: BP{k} makes room for _abc_ on the hearse [08:21] i may warm up to dbus if it trys not to auto-mount and do everything for you, i dont like software trying to read my mind [08:21] dbus doesn't try to mount anything for you [08:23] i wonder how policykit is gonna turn out. although i havent used it much its gnome intergration is awful. and to me it looks like an uneeeded complexity like pam (when speaking about desktops) [08:23] especially auto-mount, have you ever been using windows and were maybe typing up a document or doing something with some files and realised you needed something off a CD/DVD rom and you insert a CD/DVD rom in the drive and suddenly everything comes to a halt while windows waits for the drive to recognise the disk and mount it? i would rather wait until i am ready to mount it manually [08:23] Pig_Pen, again, dbus doesn't do any automounting, so what is your issue with it? [08:24] thats why i hate automount, it reminds me of ms-windows [08:24] dbus is transparent for the most part. [08:24] should I ask a 4th time? :) [08:24] is hal the culpret? [08:24] you're the expert, I thought? [08:25] me an expert? naw, just a casual user that also wants full control [08:26] sure, but you mentioned that you dislike dbus, as it does things like automounting devices for you [08:27] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:27] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [08:27] i noticed that started happening when dbus & hal (together) were included, i have been avoiding them in previous distros, but since 13 and xorg-server wants them i did have to use them a short time until i found that i can leave them out and rebuild xorg-server without them and it works just fine [08:28] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:28] the only os not including them by default is openbsd but they maintain their own xorg anyway [08:28] sn18 (n=sunnynar@115.113.116.37) joined ##slackware. [08:29] good morning gang [08:30] see, theo is not so crazy afterall :D [08:30] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-67-191-58-46.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:31] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-67-191-58-46.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:35] Pig_Pen: FWIW, stopping hal from handling volumes is fairly easy. [08:35] yeah but openbsd imo doesnt qualify as a desktop os. also their packages havent been updated to latest versions which make much use of those technologies [08:38] ...without resorting to disabling it completely. The rest of it's functions are livable. I despise automounting as well. [08:38] yeah, just dont install it in the first place is the easiest way [08:38] That works, obviously, but do you find yourself having to tinker with other parts of the os that depend? [08:40] i just bought a SDR radio, i am looking in to what Linux software is available for SDR, hamlib is out there, but i have not found any front ends [08:45] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-228-250.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [08:45] hi there [08:46] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: "Saliendo" [08:47] Anthony__ (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [08:47] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [08:49] hello metrofox [08:51] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [08:53] Nick change: hackedhead_ -> hackedhead [08:54] hey haldir, how are you? [08:54] <_abc_> any ideas on where the best place would be to disable ipv6 ? [08:55] <_abc_> at boot time [08:55] <_abc_> the soho router does not like iüv6 [08:55] <_abc_> ipv6 [08:56] _abc_: blacklist ipv6 module? [08:56] <_abc_> i can do that yes, i was looking at a switch ... [08:57] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:57] <_abc_> i could do ifconfig del addr/prefix [08:58] sound like some perversion to me [08:58] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:59] <_abc_> john_dee: ? [09:00] yasu (n=adminroo@tetkyo033107.tkyo.te.ftth2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) left irc: "leaving" [09:01] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [09:01] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [09:02] <_abc_> is the location of the slocate database a secret? it's not in the manpage [09:03] yes. it's hidden in the mountains [09:03] <_abc_> /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db is not so well hidden [09:04] yay [09:06] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [09:06] i think SAC has it hidden in Cheyenne mountain [09:07] Action: _abc_ is proud to have started sarcasm contest, Dec. 2009 ed. [09:08] Action: rworkman would say he's impressed but tries to be honest. [09:09] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118.160.168.140) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:10] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:10] mattallmill (n=mattallm@ip98-186-163-10.ks.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:11] epple (n=aether@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [09:12] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [09:13] i just changed screen, and now i have some resolution problems, fonts in applications are very very small, in KDE are ok, but in for example firefox, here in xchat... how to change that [09:15] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-178-171.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:15] i bet the font dpi needs to be bumped up a little [09:16] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [09:16] morning. [09:17] what is that parameter? startx - --dpi 96 ? 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[09:51] yeah, i have an old laptop, i just wiped slackware off it and put on win 2000, i did remove the wifi pcmcia card, i dont really like windows but somethings require it, and i dont trust windows for internet use so this will never see the internet [09:52] Yeah..no one uses Windows on the internet [09:53] no one with the paranoia i have :D [09:54] not just eye candy _abc_ [09:56] heaumer (n=heaumer@ks23738.kimsufi.com) joined ##slackware. [09:57] i ran windows 2k on an old laptop years ago, never got a virus or got hacked, but i am careful of what i do or where i go [09:58] windows 2000 uses roughty the same resources windows xp uses without the graphical crap, why dont you use that instead? at least it's supported [09:58] my father has a computer which runs *great* on unpatched windows xp, it boots in 15-20 seconds: it's not connected to the internet (that's also why it is unpatched) [09:59] 2000 is good for the same stuff as XP, minus gaming [10:00] |dfrank| (n=dfrank@94.19.35.79) joined ##slackware. [10:00] dfrank (n=dfrank@94.19.35.79) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:01] Sadnem (n=Sadnem@89.141.98.120.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [10:02] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:03] USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND [10:03] oops [10:04] what about pasting your password? :P [10:04] <_abc_> the password is 'oops' [10:05] Camarade_Tux: the only time a password hits my copy&paste is when it's a one time password :) [10:05] <_abc_> straterra: 16:52 < straterra> Yeah..no one uses Windows on the internet :: there are about a million no-ones whose windows are ddosing freenode now [10:05] <_abc_> ananke: well *any* password pasted on a channel *is* a one time password [10:06] one would hope that this was the case [10:06] <_abc_> there used to be a trick to regenerate /etc/issue so it showed current time and other whatnot. reminder please? [10:06] ananke: don't you want to make an exception? or maybe copy-paste your credit card number? =) [10:06] there are people who use windows and those that wished they did ;-) [10:06] what would someone do if I actually pasted my password in here? [10:07] i'd guess nothing [10:07] <_abc_> only one way to find out [10:07] *I* would probably change it and send you the changed one back [10:07] _abc_: its called sarcasm [10:07] <_abc_> straterra: ah, i forgot about the contest [10:08] _abc_: create a /etc/motd.masq (whatever you want to call it), then modify /etc/rc.d/rc.S to add "cat /etc/motd.masq | sed s/ or something like that [10:08] _abc_: create a /etc/motd.masq (whatever you want to call it), then modify /etc/rc.d/rc.S to add "cat /etc/motd.masq | sed s//etc/motd" [10:09] <_abc_> alisonken1noc: i need to refresh it every 10 minutes or so [10:09] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-178.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [10:09] that would be your prompt, then [10:09] <_abc_> alisonken1noc: no only on not-logged-in terms [10:09] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [10:09] <_abc_> currently i set the login timeout short and i am looking for a prog to run by agetty or login to do it [10:10] straterra: i gamed on 2000... Jedi Knight 2 ftw! :P [10:10] <_abc_> no joy so far, so i'll hack it with a crontab entry [10:10] _abc_: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-tip-prompt/ [10:10] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:12] Cryophile (i=43d00669@gateway/web/freenode/x-dzilhteichpojvcc) joined ##slackware. [10:12] I might be mildly retarded, but I can't seem to get any of my IRC clients to connect. They all time out. [10:13] uh.. [10:13] <_abc_> Cryophile: you seem to be connected ... [10:13] I'm using the webchat [10:13] <_abc_> ?! [10:13] I tried xchat and irssi, but neither work [10:13] <_abc_> oh i get it [10:13] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:13] <_abc_> try telnet irc.freenode.org 6667 [10:14] <_abc_> did you edit your firewall recently? [10:14] not recently, no [10:14] same thing, it's trying, but nothing [10:14] it's probably something simple that I overlooked [10:15] Nick change: appzer0_ -> appzer0 [10:16] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [10:16] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-sovbnjqevsvetszc) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:17] telnet just times out like the clients [10:18] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:19] chopp (n=chopp@chopp-1-pt.tunnel.tserv8.dal1.ipv6.he.net) joined ##slackware. [10:20] Cryophile: I am the antipop the man you cannot stop! [10:20] probably my favourite primus album [10:20] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: "Saliendo" [10:21] sn18 (n=sunnynar@115.113.116.37) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:23] vdvluc (n=luc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) left irc: "leaving" [10:26] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [10:26] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:27] Well, this isn't too helpful [10:28] I'd stick around and wait for a response, but my battery is almost at its end [10:28] this really isn't the best place to be asking this, I guess [10:28] what you lookiing for? [10:28] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-99-37-156-191.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [10:29] usr_local (n=usr_loca@c-24-98-137-201.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:57] thrice`: you around?!? [10:57] i have the *strangest* thing on the GF machine [10:57] it has run xorg.conf-less since its install, and it never had any problems [10:57] there are more than one place that X looks for the xorg.conf file [10:58] ... it may exist in one of the "alternate" places ? [10:58] now, out of blue nowhere, xorg things that the monitor (LCD) is 1024 and not its native 1440 [10:58] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:59] rk4n3: that would require her to have root to the machine, which she doesnt, and she would have NO idea where to put it, and she would have remembered putting it there :P [10:59] macavity, what does xrandr -q think about it? [11:00] hang on [11:00] macavity (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Client Quit [11:00] macavity (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:01] toodiesel (n=toodiese@cpe-075-181-168-173.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:01] Desiderius (n=dc@pth77-1-88-171-241-225.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:01] how can i tell if my ethernet card is 10 or 100 mbps? [11:01] try shouting [11:01] haha [11:01] all that happened was my dog started barking at me [11:02] toodiesel: if its really slow, its 10, if its only sorta slow, its 100 [11:02] thrice`: http://pastebin.ca/1718306 [11:02] hahah [11:02] rk4n3: what if it's somewhere in between? [11:02] does that make it 55 mbps? [11:02] thrice`: oh wait a sec.. [11:03] toodiesel: sheesh, gotta be tricky, eh ? :) [11:03] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:03] :) [11:03] toodiesel: jsut google your card and read the specs [11:03] macavity (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Client Quit [11:03] toodiesel: although, 55mbps makes it at least a 100, since a 10 would never come close to that [11:04] scuzz: i'm on a remote machine [11:04] macavity (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:04] thrice`: yup.. same with and without xorg.conf [11:05] macavity, mm, glxinfo | grep direct ? is it using vesa ? [11:05] OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) G41 GEM 20090712 2009Q2 RC3 x86/MMX/SSE2 [11:05] rk4n3: i was being facetious about being 55mbps ("in between" slow and really slow) [11:05] thrice`: ok.. now i have MTTR errors in dmesg :-/ [11:06] i think i better reboot... i have exercised alt-ctrl-backspace a couple of times :P [11:06] macavity (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Client Quit [11:07] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:08] Nick change: randomnewblet -> Aco- [11:09] toodiesel: can you do a "dmesg | grep eth0" on the machine in question ? [11:10] macavity (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:10] ... or rather, "dmesg | grep eth0 | grep 'link up'" [11:10] ... that might tell you Mbps [11:10] rk4n3: thanks !! [11:10] thrice`: ok, now i know that it isnt the MTTR thingie.. no mention of that [11:10] toodiesel: :) [11:10] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@n146s183.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) left irc: "Leaving." [11:10] rk4n3: thanks again [11:10] toodiesel (n=toodiese@cpe-075-181-168-173.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:11] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.46.203) left irc: "leaving" [11:11] macavity, so, no xorg.conf, xorg.0.log doesn't show errors? [11:12] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [11:12] Sadnem (n=Sadnem@89.141.98.120.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [11:12] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@n146s183.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) joined ##slackware. [11:13] thrice`: nope.. what bugs me here is that nothing has been changed [11:13] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@n146s183.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:13] that is, i cant tell if all that I2C stuff is as it is supposed to be [11:14] at the end it repeats that same thing over and over again [11:15] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [11:15] thrice`: http://pastebin.ca/1718323 [11:15] the graphics have become noticable slower [11:17] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [11:18] did you update kernels or something? I don't think i've seen that before [11:18] nope [11:18] this box is -current 100% [11:19] only installed flash, skype and yakuake besides [11:19] brb [11:19] you let her install flash??? [11:19] macavity (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:19] ;) [11:19] davi` (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:20] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:20] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: "Leaving" [11:20] correcaminos (n=laguilar@189.231.85.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:20] macavity (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:20] dooh :P [11:20] chopp (n=chopp@chopp-1-pt.tunnel.tserv8.dal1.ipv6.he.net) joined ##slackware. [11:21] thrice`: ok, did you now that a VGA cable that is only 90% plugged in can result in a working monitor... that wont do full resolution? [11:21] hahah [11:21] i feel stupid now... if the GF claims something is wrong, check cables first!!! [11:21] lol [11:21] >_< [11:21] i'll freaking find some epoxy... [11:22] but all feels good now.. xorg *cannot* just get the idea that it wants to change resolutions unless something has prodded it [11:24] luckily you were smart enough to check the cable, i would of wasted the entire day trying to fix that issue [11:26] lol [11:27] i only remembered to check because the kid has been using the speakers, so i figured the cable might have come loose when he cravled in to get the jack out [11:28] i havnt ever seen that issue, my way of thinking is, ok the monitor is on so cable must be plugged in good [11:28] hmmm, nice hostname macavity :) [11:28] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:28] fullrate dick ? [11:28] lol [11:28] alisonken1hom2 (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:29] macavity: a partly plugged vga cable can also give wron colours ;-) [11:29] macavity: also, "if the *GF* claims", hmmmm, that's not what you had told me :P [11:29] Scuzz: the other part of the hostname ;-) [11:30] the girly name ? [11:30] s/y/ [11:30] bah: s/y// [11:30] see, hes the girly not fire|bird [11:30] bah, both ;-) [11:31] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FC807.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:34] evo_ (n=evo@p5B2FD5A5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:34] macavity (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:34] gades_ (n=gades@190.33.62.4) joined ##slackware. [11:35] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:35] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:36] gades_ (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Client Quit [11:36] nmoura (n=nmoura@g3.alog.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [11:36] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [11:37] chopp (n=chopp@chopp-1-pt.tunnel.tserv8.dal1.ipv6.he.net) joined ##slackware. [11:37] Reelix (i=Reelix@41.213.117.130) joined ##slackware. [11:37] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FC807.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:37] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.5) joined ##slackware. [11:38] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Client Quit [11:39] has anyone done the alien compat32 install and got wine working? [11:39] Desiderius (n=dc@pth77-1-88-171-241-225.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [11:39] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:40] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:41] Guest19794 (n=Zack@fm-ip-118.136.212.154.fast.net.id) left irc: "Real_Life();" [11:41] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [11:42] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-67-162-31-157.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:43] Cryophile (i=43d00669@gateway/web/freenode/x-xbjdpphtqpyrfyfn) joined ##slackware. [11:44] so... not ALL wireless NIC supports AP (Master ?) Mode ? [11:45] right [11:45] seriously ? [11:45] no i'm joking [11:46] I've got a rather long question :( [11:46] right... [11:46] I was in here a couple hours ago, and I've still got the same problem. It's a relatively fresh install, and I didn't mess around with it that much. For some reason I'm not able to ping or connect to any outside addresses... but http works. As vague as that sounds. [11:46] iptables are clear ? [11:47] yes [11:47] what do you mean connect? http requires a connect to some remote's port 80 [11:47] yeah, and that works [11:47] I mean other than that [11:47] so what does "connect" mean for you? [11:47] IRC, pidgin, telnet, ping [11:47] I tried various servers and ports [11:47] pastebin the output of "iptables -L" [11:47] I have no idea how I'm on here [11:48] i see, so irc doesn't work except to connect to freenode's ##slackware? [11:48] i think you're trolling [11:48] :) [11:49] lol [11:50] sorry, I was afk for a second [11:50] no, I'm using the webchat, mancha [11:50] with firefox [11:50] everything functions perfectly with it [11:50] InspectorCluseau: I have. [11:50] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@n146s183.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) joined ##slackware. [11:50] maybe you just dont meet the minimum iq requirement? [11:51] ok, pastebin a few things. "iptables -L -n", "cat /etc/resolv.conf" and "route -n" [11:51] ut_, I get an error that it needs X11 dev or something. Can,t open a window [11:51] jjholt (n=jjholt@cblmdm72-240-143-255.buckeyecom.net) joined ##slackware. [11:51] pastebin.com is where i mean, and you can put all three outputs in a single post. thanks. [11:52] I haven't seen that, sorry. I'd try to help troubleshoot, but I'd probably just embarass myself. [11:52] Maybe you're running it as root or something? [11:52] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@n146s183.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:52] ut_, did you compile wine or use a package? [11:52] http://pastebin.org/66023 [11:52] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [11:53] odd [11:53] Let me look. [11:53] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "cliente" [11:53] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [11:53] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:53] ut_, either way I do it I get the same exact error [11:53] who is 10.1.8.1 ? [11:53] looks to me like i used alien's slackbuild [11:54] ut_, I did too... but get the error [11:54] I'm at a local library [11:54] i remember. i used his slackbuild with teh compat32 thing, and the most recent wine dev source [11:54] one of their DNS servers, I guess [11:54] I believe they use WINS [11:54] Cryophile have you considered that they block all but web traffic? [11:54] Cryophile: is your library blocks any traffic beside http ? :S [11:54] maybe they are filtering [11:54] indeed [11:55] I've connected to them all here previously [11:55] with debian [11:55] ut_, I'll see which wine source I am using. [11:55] different laptop [11:55] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@a85-139-11-14.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:55] Action: Camarade_Tux bets on "the library filters out" [11:55] so unless they just starting filtering in the past two weeks... [11:55] what does ifconfig wlan0 [11:56] say...? also maybe they started filtering in anticipation of santa's visit... [11:56] it's possible, but very unlikely. they've never done it before [11:56] lol. [11:56] two weeks is a long time [11:56] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:56] i don't like your routing table btw [11:56] they haven't blocked it for years previously [11:57] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:57] I used to torrent here [11:57] can you pastebin the ifconfig and iwconfig output too, thanks. [11:57] what about adding nameserver 10.1.8.1 to /etc/resolve.conf , think that might help [11:58] http://pastebin.org/66028 [11:58] haldir_ (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:58] there's no reason port 80 traffic works and other stuff doesn't unless there's a block somewhere. so why not ask the library if they started blocking access to non-http protocols [11:59] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: "Leaving." [11:59] that still doesn't explain why pidgin won't even work. [11:59] other people around me are on MSN and AIM [12:00] does nslookup www.google.com return a result? [12:00] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [12:00] yes [12:01] but ping will time out [12:01] what does traceroute www.google.com show? [12:02] Ach, I need to leave in a moment. traceroute is still going... [12:03] traceroute to www.l.google.com (74.125.95.106), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets [12:03] and now it's down to 8 * * * [12:03] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.46.203) joined ##slackware. [12:04] so it has a route outside, which means it is blocking ports. mystery solved. [12:04] go talk to your librarian :) [12:05] or its using a proxy [12:05] which would block non-http traffic [12:05] Well, thanks for the help. I'll see what I can do from here [12:05] :) [12:05] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:05] Cryophile (i=43d00669@gateway/web/freenode/x-xbjdpphtqpyrfyfn) left irc: "Page closed" [12:05] sfa, most likely [12:07] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:07] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:07] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:07] now he didnt mention that everything works fine at home [12:07] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:08] as dr house says, everybody lies [12:08] lol [12:08] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. 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[12:14] i am a bit...i can understand that adobe, msft, etc drag their feet when things aren't public...but this is now out in the wild [12:15] mancha: you almost sound surprised [12:16] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:16] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:18] The secret is, Adobe is run by bugmonsters who despise humanity. [12:18] That's why they try to slip toolbars in with security updates that arrive a month late. [12:18] adobe need to seriously DIAF [12:20] macavity (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:23] Baisuoklis (n=Baisuoki@86.100.65.204) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:26] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [12:28] spook: HTML5 will hopefully KTIAF [12:29] eviljames: perhaps. [12:30] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-99-37-156-191.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:30] what's KTIAF ? [12:31] Kills Them In A Fire [12:31] or Kill them.. I dunno, I just made it up [12:31] ah ok. [12:31] still html5 does not do webcam :-/ [12:31] low altitude orbital ion cannon them [12:31] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:32] i think you can do streaming with it [12:32] hmm... new firefox update. [12:32] macavity: .. but.. who cares? [12:32] macavity: I don't want flash to have access to my webcam anyway [12:32] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-59-111.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:32] that sounds... serious... [12:32] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [12:33] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:33] eviljames: well.. for some it is detrimental to have webcam in their browser [12:33] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:33] eviljames: meebo will die without flash :D [12:33] eviljames: and they, obviously, still need flash [12:33] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [12:33] flash needs to die [12:34] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc652118f.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:34] i should make my mission to completely destroy it, all copies, all code, all the programmers [12:34] imarambiocatan_ (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [12:34] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:34] spook: Especially the "programmers" [12:34] I'm waiting for Hulu to switch to gnash [12:35] oh i've got something special in store for the "programmers" [12:35] what does switch to gnash mean? [12:35] spook: the gnash devs will probably like a helping hand :P [12:35] ... cmon, they're just code monkeys doing what they're paid for - have some empathy for them :) [12:35] instead of programming Hulu desktop for flash, program Hulu desktop for gnash [12:35] rk4n3: i'll force them to work on gnash [12:36] spook: cool - they'll probably worship you as a liberator :) [12:36] mancha: gnash is the GNU implementation of flash.. it is unfortunately still semi-broken, and it doesnt support the newer versions of the flash action scripts [12:36] i don't know hulu-desktop but gnash is a perpetuation of the flash infrastructure. it should die too [12:36] <_abc_> how could rc.M not run on normal boot ?! [12:37] _abc_: you're the guy who was messing with his init scripts right? [12:37] afk, time to go shopping [12:37] hahahaha .. XD [12:37] alison, plus outfits like youboob are busy moving to the newest flash/script versions (up to 10 now) and this consistently has gnash playing catch-up [12:38] Action: _abc_ can take a hint [12:38] _abc_: congrats. ^_^ [12:38] the answer is to move away from such a crap infrastructure (flash) rather than support open source alternatives to crap infrastructure :) [12:38] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc652118f.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [12:39] the best plugin (addon) firefox made was "flashblock" :) [12:39] youtube will switch to the html5 video container, and have the flash version left as is for those who cant use the video container [12:39] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:39] mancha: best plugin is noscript which does javascript AND flash [12:39] if they move to i will be happy [12:40] yeah, noscript is better, though there are cases in which i am pissed a bit [12:40] say you do want to allow javascript for a site but DO not want its flash... [12:40] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:40] true [12:40] _abc_: if you mess up something in rc.S, it may stop other scripts from running [12:40] temporarily allow... opens it up across the board [12:41] alisonken1home: he voided his warranty [12:41] example: "if [-x ] ; then # . ; done [12:41] [12:42] the problem is that the if ... fi statement will fail because the exeute line was commented, which results in an empty if ... fi block that then becomes an error [12:43] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) joined ##slackware. [12:44] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65210f1.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:44] alison, put a "true" in the block, then you can coment yuour execute line without ieeues [12:44] issues geez [12:45] I put ' echo "Skipping this piece of redundant stuff from running" in there :) [12:45] i just chmod -x various things [12:45] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:48] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:53] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:53] tuxdev (n=tuxdev@mail.visualpurple.com) joined ##slackware. [12:54] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:56] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:56] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:57] ok - incoming showing steady 230-245 kb [12:57] and now dropped below 100kb [12:58] k [13:08] _abc__ (n=no@unaffiliated/ccbbaa) joined ##slackware. [13:09] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Masterx831 (n=masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:15] aahh [13:15] 29600 [13:15] jeev [13:15] over sftp [13:15] 29.6 mbit, nice [13:15] stupid cable modem [13:15] deco deco [13:15] Your dling at 30MB/s? o_O [13:16] yea [13:16] i have like 50meg at home, 20 from one isp, 30 from the other [13:16] thats impressive [13:16] the cable is unstable though [13:16] wow [13:16] i get 300 kb/s max [13:16] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [13:16] I get 5 :p [13:16] (kb/s :|) [13:16] 15 mbs here [13:17] Scuzz: how much do you pay a month ? [13:17] 30 sure would be nice [13:17] alot [13:17] :o [13:17] almost 80 bux [13:17] oh wow [13:17] ep [13:17] yep* [13:17] i pay like 30 i think [13:17] yeah there is a cheaper service [13:17] but i chose the pro package [13:17] $80 a month for internet 50 times after than my continent... Nice :p [13:17] my uploads suck large [13:18] oh [13:18] heh [13:18] dont forget, my cable company only allows 20 megs, if you kow what im saying [13:18] know [13:18] jeev: what your uploads like ? [13:18] uh, quick question for you geekys, a PING command on IRC [13:18] does it have a date in it? [13:18] PING 1129670355 949199 [13:19] ^^ one of them a convertable date/ [13:19] eh, max out at 2.5 [13:19] bah [13:19] still better then mine [13:19] heh [13:19] 1200 ms reply from google :< [13:20] uh. i wana know when that ping was done ;/ i gotta log with no other information in it. [13:20] acidchild: sup ash [13:20] hey spook [13:20] how goes? [13:21] yeah not bad [13:21] confrey (n=dario@151.59.24.74) joined ##slackware. [13:21] damn, i guess i will have to read the IRC RFC. lame [13:21] j0z- (n=j0z@200.146.6.145.dynamic.dialup.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:21] heh :) [13:21] j0z_ (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:22] blah, i guess that is no use to me :< [13:23] _abc_ (n=no@unaffiliated/ccbbaa) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:25] Masterx841 (n=masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:25] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [13:27] Artio (n=_@port-12544.pppoe.wtnet.de) joined ##slackware. [13:31] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:31] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:44] Reelix (i=Reelix@41.213.117.130) left irc: " i mean, have you seen a scientist's C code? it makes raptor jesus cry blood" [13:45] I need a "simple" route to play cds fro the wife. (no /dev/cdrom stuff) . [13:45] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [13:45] Also, Amarok does't seem to be able to see any devices [13:46] what about kde's music app? Juk maybe? [13:47] corey1 (n=corey@adsl-76-236-190-32.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:48] Juk only for digital audio in think. and kscd was removed from slack13 [13:48] you mean, remove from kde * :) [13:49] Actauuly its in KDE but I just saw a blog post from alienBOB that Pat removed it due to some bad libraries [13:49] oh, I see [13:49] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [13:49] what about just mplayer ? [13:50] But what bugs me is i am not gettin anny dbus notification of an audio cd insert. data and dvd vidie is fine [13:50] *video [13:50] xmms can play audio cdroms [13:50] Pig_Pen, I though so too but in slack13 I can find the "button" [13:51] Audacious can in Slack32 but it is missing the capability on 2 Slack64 installs [13:51] "...I can't/..." damn fingers [13:52] It slike the audio CD ease of use from Slack12.2 suddenly vanished [13:53] why not just use a cd ripper and make her some mp3 or ogg files [13:53] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:54] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-136-73.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:54] Pig_Pen, I have . 9GB of music on a NFS partition she can access from anywhere inteh house. *except* she want to play the odd CD when I am not home [13:54] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.247) joined ##slackware. [13:55] imarambiocatan_ (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:55] People, why can't Slackware 13 play audios CDs as easily as Slackware 12.2? [13:55] and I mean *easy* as in music major wife [13:56] not hat there is anything wrong with music majors.... [13:58] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-67-162-31-157.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:58] how reliable are solid state drives ? [13:58] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl7-79-151.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:58] and yes I have a 5 cd changes on the stereo system. but its not routed throughout the house [13:58] jjholt (n=jjholt@cblmdm72-240-143-255.buckeyecom.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:59] kingbeowulf: can you play back sacd though ? [13:59] snL20, don't hav sacd ... just plain old cd [13:59] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:00] video and data DVDs and data CD (CDR, CDRW) pop up via dbus just fine [14:00] kingbeowulf: yeah, me too... I really only have one sacd which also works as a plain old cd.... pink floyd - dark side of the moon =) [14:00] AH! a classic. Floyd helped me survice the disco era in high school [14:00] *survive [14:01] deco_ (n=deco@adsl-69-108-93-57.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:01] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.159.42) joined ##slackware. [14:02] <_abc__> any ideas why wodim would never obey a speed=N setting ? [14:02] <_abc__> it always goes full speed [14:02] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:02] If anyone is messing about with jackd and set_rlimits on slack 12.2 I could use some help.. I cannot get jackd to run in realtime as a user. All is well as root but not as a user [14:03] Lab_Rat: You have already compiled the realtime kernel? [14:03] eviljames, Yes I have 2.6.29.6 [14:03] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:03] Nick change: deco_ -> deco [14:03] Lab_Rat: Ok, and you have made /etc/set_rlimits.conf ? [14:03] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [14:03] Lab_Rat: I'll pastebin you mine if it will help [14:03] eviljames yes I have done that as well [14:04] ok thanks [14:04] Lab_Rat: are you starting jack from qjackctl? [14:04] <_abc__> has anyone seen wodim/cdrecord go to full speed like a ford cruise control and stay there? [14:04] eviljames, yes [14:04] Lab_Rat: Did you add qjackctl to set_rlimits.conf, and did you change the server location from "jackd" to "set_rlimits jackd" in QJackCtl? [14:05] snL20: really reliable, depends on your FS/quality of the disk and if you use them for logs. [14:05] dakarn (n=skas@cpe-76-175-69-235.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:05] and checkmark the "Realtime option" in the jack configuration in qjackctl? I'm pretty sure that relies on /etc/security/limits.conf (PAM iirc) which Slackwre doesn't use, but it may be required.. [14:05] eviljames, Yes I did .. I can past the conf file if you would like to see that [14:05] Lab_Rat: sure. [14:05] It is probably easier to diagnose that way [14:05] ok hang on a sec [14:06] acidchild: ok cool... what do they actually use ? chips of some sort ? [14:06] gimme a second, i'll get your the datasheet for the ones i use. [14:07] smica (n=smica@h128-254.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [14:07] comp_ (n=comp_@81.196.151.9) left irc: "Leaving" [14:07] dakarn (n=skas@cpe-76-175-69-235.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:08] teckan (n=teckan@p5B0CEAAB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:08] acidchild: I see some use flash... and my experience with flash is usb flash sticks... they're not of the same reliability/quality as ssd's though ? [14:09] eviljames, I pasted the relevant part everything else is commented http://pastebin.com/m3616f2e6 [14:09] x-ip (n=sakura-s@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: "leaving" [14:09] out of 30 of them, i've had one die. but i think it was DOA [14:09] EDC ATA+ 40pin 2GB - IFM-4061-2GB [14:10] IGS IEI Global Sourcing. [14:10] i can't find the webpage. [14:10] thats everything writen on it. [14:11] http://www.ck365.cn/tradeinfo/html/2007-12/4738939029.html [14:11] acidchild: heh ok :) thanks [14:11] Lab_Rat: Those all look right, I usually use the format of [user/group] [path] [key=value] instead of just -1 95 [14:11] http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://www.ck365.cn/tradeinfo/html/2007-12/4738939029.html&ei=KIIqS5bzGM2vlAfFsemjBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAoQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3DEDC%2BATA%252B%2B40pin%2B2G%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:multi:official%26hs%3DjFM%26sa%3DG [14:11] Lab_Rat: also note, that the set_rlimits.conf file states rtprio <= 80 [14:11] fraktil (n=fraktil@96.248.224.241) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:11] snL20: they are costly thats the only problem with SSD, but for /boot [14:11] they are -awesome- [14:12] acidchild: good lord, at least use dickensurl [14:12] eviljames: or tinyurl =) [14:12] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:12] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65210f1.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [14:13] acidchild: yeah, my boss got a dell laptop with a 60gb ssd drive =) [14:13] samsung? [14:13] chip... [14:13] the specs on that page are wrong, http://www.ul.com/global/eng/pages/ tested my whole box down to -55C [14:14] eviljames I experimented with the values there using /usr/bin/set_rlimits -d jackd -R -m -dalsa -dhw:0 -r48000 -p1024 -n2 [14:14] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [14:15] acidchild: latitude xt2 [14:15] if I put anything in there other than the value it errored saying it didn't recognize the name of the variable [14:15] yeah but the SSD. dell doesn't make shit [14:15] lol [14:15] the error message I get is JACK: unable to mlock() port buffers: Cannot allocate memory [14:16] acidchild: heh yeah, I dont know, iirc it was samsung [14:16] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:16] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [14:17] Lab_Rat: hrm.. you could try using key=value and adding a memlock= ... I have mine set to 262144 and I don't think I have the same issue.. [14:17] acidchild: their page just says mobility solid state drive [14:18] Nick change: wertik_rus -> GoGoGo [14:19] x-ip (n=sakura-s@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [14:19] eviljames I just set the rtprio =70 but still the same error [14:20] acidchild: hmmm, looking at komplett the ssd drives are crucial, kingston, ocz, corsair etc [14:20] acidchild: anyway tv time =) [14:20] eviljames, I did use memlock to no effect as well... I have not tried the key value [14:22] _dfrank_ (n=dfrank@94.19.35.79) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:22] corey1 (n=corey@adsl-76-236-190-32.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:23] thrice`, to anser your question, yes mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/cdrom1 cdda://1 will play but I can't see my wife going to the trouble. I I can't find how to access via gmplayer gui [14:24] Lab_Rat: just reading the docs atm, trying to find some more info that might help... [14:24] its like DBUS doesn't see the audio CD so KDE and XFCE dont either [14:24] Lab_Rat: because everything seems to work well for me :/ [14:24] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.5) left irc: [14:25] eviljames.. I have been struggling with this for 3 days so far.. The docs are simple enough that it should work. [14:25] fraktil (n=fraktil@ip68-227-80-107.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:25] Lab_Rat: maybe -d gives you more info? [14:26] Lab_Rat: I'm not at a machine presently to test it out [14:26] eviljames yes it does I will pastebin and outpu from that ... maye it will give you some clues [14:27] k [14:29] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [14:30] vonnick (n=vonnick@207.118.61.23) joined ##slackware. [14:31] vonnick (n=vonnick@207.118.61.23) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:31] eviljames, http://pastebin.com/m32dfe9ba I ctrl c'd out as it just hangs [14:34] daniel__ (n=fxer@c80-216-143-115.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [14:34] Lab_Rat: can you try $ /usr/bin/set_rlimits -d -l 262144 jackd -R -m -dalsa -dhw:0 -r48000 -p1024 -n2 [14:34] eviljames, I had one question that bothers me.. The tarball of the source already contains a binary. That should not get installed. I wonder if I should remove that binary before compiling as there are two entries showing when I use pkgtool [14:34] hi, is there anyway to move an already running ps into a new screen session? [14:35] eviljames I sure can... I am doing this on another box and transfer the results to here hence the slowness of my responses [14:35] Lab_Rat: no worries, like I say I don't even have a machine to test stuff on atm. and I noticed the same about the binary but ignored it, had no effect on slack13x64 [14:35] at least, no noticable effect [14:36] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [14:37] eviljames the result of your test ... set_rlimits: no permission to run 262144 with elevated resource limits [14:39] It just died right there and didn't even try to run [14:40] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-148-30.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [14:41] you still use set_rlimits for jackd? how old-fashioned :P [14:42] there is always pam but I am not about to get into that mess. set_rlimits usually just works [14:42] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:42] Lab_Rat: I'm pretty happy with my pcaps setups, though I still think I miss one definition [14:43] Linus (n=SlackWar@a85-139-11-84.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:43] Linus: \o/ [14:43] pprkut I have had this working before using set_rlimits and eviljames has it working with the exception being he is running 64bit rather 32 [14:44] Lab_Rat: ah, instead of -l 262144, use -l=262144 [14:44] my bad [14:44] I am asuming he is running the same kernel I am .. as it is the latest for slack-13 [14:44] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-67-162-31-157.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:44] eviljames ok [14:45] Lab_Rat: yeah, I know. There's nothing wrong in using set_rlimits. It works perfectly fine. I just find pcaps more convenient (and easier to setup) [14:45] Lab_Rat: I'm using 2.6.31.6-rt [14:45] pprkut: are you using pam? [14:45] nope [14:46] eviljames: look at the README on SBo. That's what I use [14:47] the readme for pcaps? [14:48] fraktil (n=fraktil@ip68-227-80-107.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Connection timed out [14:48] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:48] fraktil (n=fraktil@ip68-227-80-107.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] eviljames a slightly different result which I will paste bin [14:49] eviljames: no, jack [14:49] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:50] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [14:50] eviljames, http://pastebin.com/m1571fc6d [14:51] Lab_Rat: ah, what I had noticed before was that it said mlock had a hard limit of 64 (assuming kb) which might have been too small for jackd [14:51] pprkut: still haven't even had that first cup of coffee yet, bear with me :P [14:51] ;) [14:52] daniel__ (n=fxer@c80-216-143-115.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: "leaving" [14:52] I cannot use anything above 2.26.31 because it screws with the onboard sensors .. [14:53] eviljames, It runs as root with the same limit ... Maybe I should do a paste bin of a successful run as root... It might tell you more than these failed runs [14:54] good idea, add -d to set_rlimits as well [14:55] eviljames, this will take a minute I just tried it ( su ) and it failed .. [14:57] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:57] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [14:57] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:00] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@a85-139-11-14.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:01] Lab_Rat: also, when jack says it cannot lock for the buffers, it will actually still let clients connect [15:01] It isn't hanging for the first debug pastebin, it is running. [15:01] macavity: [15:03] eviljames, here are the results for test done as root http://pastebin.com/m7f357481 [15:03] Oh I see what you are saying I can check that out I was thinking it was dead in the water [15:04] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.82.110) joined ##slackware. [15:04] Now, root doesn't throw your messages about memlock, it throws a different error about setting memlock which is apparently not allowed in your set_rlimits.conf [15:04] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:05] Be that as it may, jackd doesn't have any issue locking memory as root.. [15:06] pprkut: the readme does not seem to mention where "setcap" comes from [15:06] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:06] nvm [15:06] Action: eviljames checked the man page :P [15:06] lQg2 (n=vnv@65-230-178-94.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [15:06] eviljames the first test in the pastebin does fail.. jackd doesn't start. [15:07] I looked at ps ax [15:07] Lab_Rat: yeah, I phrased that poorly [15:07] russkie est? [15:07] eviljames: it is part of the libcap package [15:07] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [15:07] pprkut: indeed, i asked before RTFM. Feel free to have someone ban me for an hour or some equal punishment :D [15:08] lol [15:10] eviljames, What I have not done is run qjackctl rather than jackd as user .. it's next on my list [15:10] _abc__ (n=no@unaffiliated/ccbbaa) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:11] Yep, that sounds like a good plan. Though, pprkut is a very clever dude so maybe try his route (I've never used it before) [15:11] pprkut: setcap is an on-the-fly setting, or something that is stored (metadata?) [15:12] extended attribues [15:12] semi-permanent [15:12] how 'semi-' ? until reboot, until kernel upgrade...? [15:12] it stays, but it tied to the file. Also mv, cp, etc will remove them [15:13] Action: eviljames apparently really needs to learn about these so-called extended attributes [15:13] ahhhh excellent! [15:13] pprkut: k, last time I ask before RTFM, can you poitn me in the direction of the flags? [15:13] eviljames, same results except the log messages are prettier :) [15:14] eviljames: rsync though keeps posix capabilities [15:14] what flags? [15:15] Lab_Rat: heh full colour from QJackCtl? :D [15:15] imarambiocatan_ (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [15:15] pprkut: nevermind, you inadvertantly answered my foolish question. [15:16] jhw_ (n=jhw@p548F7AB9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:16] heh [15:17] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [15:18] ThomasLocke_ (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [15:19] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [15:19] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [15:19] dakarn (n=skas@cpe-76-175-69-235.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:20] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-228-250.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [15:20] hi there [15:20] Ok next I will try pprkut's solution.. setcap cap_ipc_lock,cap_sys_nice=ep /usr/bin/jackd and see if that flies [15:20] Nick change: GoGoGo -> wertik_rus [15:21] I still get one error with that configuration, but jack works anyway. Don't know which cap I'm missing [15:25] jack is all jacked up [15:26] Ok that does work better.. I am not getting the unable to mlock() however I am getting cannot use real-time scheduling (FIFO at priority 5) [for thread -1249432688, from thread -1249432688] (1: Operation not permitted) [15:26] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:26] Nick change: ThomasLocke_ -> ThomasLocke [15:27] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [15:27] dakarn (n=skas@cpe-76-175-69-235.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:27] Lab_Rat: well, that kind of defeats the point I think... [15:28] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [15:29] eviljames, Yep it sure does... I was dazzled by the change in error messages.. It still doesn't work [15:29] Lab_Rat: When you get a realtime, but with the mlock errors, you can still connect clients to jackd, right? [15:30] fraktil (n=fraktil@ip68-227-80-107.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:30] eviljames, I can only connect ardour.. ardour doesn't see jamin nor does jack. So it partially works [15:31] Action: eviljames scratches his head.. why would one app see it and another not? [15:31] urgh, I was not looking for a new project, but sorting out what's happening and why may be on my agenda for this weekend ... :/ [15:32] fraktil (n=fraktil@96.248.224.241) joined ##slackware. [15:34] vbatts_: you called master? [15:35] Lab_Rat: yeah. I get that error as well. I don't know why though. It has the caps to start a realtime job (cap_sys_nice). Well, that's why I flagged it experimental ;) [15:36] pprkut, What kernel version are you using [15:37] 2.6.32-rc5-git4 [15:37] I'm too lazy to upgrade to a newer one [15:37] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@a85-139-11-87.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:38] dakarn (n=skas@cpe-76-175-69-235.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:38] It's possible that's my problem.. Maybe set_rlimits doesn't play nice with 2.29.6 [15:38] mako (n=mako@81.22.24.106) joined ##slackware. [15:38] Have any of you used broadcom-wl? [15:39] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.21.13) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:39] Trouble is I run into other nasty problems if I try to use any of the 31 series.. [15:40] Lab_Rat: I stopped using set_rlimits some months ago, so I can't tell about that. For some reason it magically stopped working for me from one day to another [15:40] so I switched to the alternative [15:41] Why command 'slackpkg search openoffice' display nothing suitable? [15:41] Because OOo is not part of Slackware [15:42] alienBOB: What you may suggest me? [15:42] hey, alienBOB. any movent in slackware live cd direction? [15:42] lQg2: search slackbuilds.org for openoffice [15:42] lQg2: if you want a nice frontend for slackbuilds.org see sbopkg.org [15:43] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:43] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "lalala" [15:43] lQg2: i think it is nice to have official and user contributed packages seperated [15:43] sbopkg is a lot like slackpkg [15:43] macavity: don't know. i'm newbie... [15:45] lQg2: that is why i am telling you :P [15:45] veritos (n=veritos@swallow.ee.washington.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:46] macavity: sbopkg is a slapt-get substitue i see. what should i use - sbopkg or slapt? [15:46] lQg2, not a direct replacement [15:46] of course. [15:46] or even the same use cases [15:46] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.159.42) left irc: "Leaving." [15:46] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:46] It is not at all the same [15:46] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:46] sbopkg downloads and compiles packages not provided in the main slackware tree [15:47] slapt-get manages the packages in the slackware tree [15:47] (binary) [15:47] sbopkg is a front-end to building packages from source, using scripts stored at slackbuilds.org [15:47] pprkut, you shoudl upgrade if you're on ext4 [15:47] thrice`: for RT-related extended attributes? [15:47] thrice`: yah, I know. I like the thrill :P [15:48] I'm using the command 'top -bcIn' as part of a script, but that only shows the first eight characters of the usernames. Does there exist a way to get the full usernames? [15:48] http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.32.1 [15:48] alienBOB: thank you very much for sbopkg description. [15:48] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [15:49] And slackpkg only manages official Slackware packages (those that come on the official DVD for instance) [15:49] Nevermind, I'll give it the -u option and manually convert numerical UID:s to names [15:52] there is a small confuse with installing sbopkg. Cannot install sbopkg-0.31.0.tar.gz: file does not end in .tgz, .tbz. I fix it by 'ln -s'. [15:52] Hmm..do any of you use wireless.conf, or just rely on something like wicd? [15:52] frimer (i=frimer@szluug.org) joined ##slackware. [15:52] Action: NaCl uses wicd, for obvious reasons [15:53] straterra: i use my own script atm iwconfig and dhclient [15:53] straterra: just delete rc.wireless.conf [15:53] macavity: i've just installed -current on my dell mini 9, and got the red X on the akonadi setup screen [15:53] alienBOB: Well..I'm looking at the net-tools to iproute2 conversion process..you're saying I should just ignore wireless.conf? [15:54] lQg2: that is a source tarball. Not a package. You can not install a source tarball by using installpkg! [15:54] Linus (n=SlackWar@a85-139-11-84.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:54] straterra: just use rc.inet1.conf for all network config [15:54] macavity: so on the akonadi configurat panel of the `systemsettings` advanced tab, i clicked on the "Akonadi server configuration" tab, [15:54] alienBOB: heh [15:55] PiterPunk has rc.inet1 and rc.wireless scripts which only use ip tools... I have a copy [15:55] alienBOB: I just follow advice on 'http://www.sbopkg.org' : installpkg sbopkg-version-noarch-1_cng.tgz [15:55] how do i do 23x.0.0.0/8 in a pcap_setfilter syntax? ;x [15:55] host 23x.0.0.0/8 says 'Mask syntax for networks only' [15:55] unchecked the "Use internal mysql server", apply, re-checked that box, apply, then i clicked the "start" button. *shazaam* *shazaam*, it works now [15:56] JK3MP (n=jkemp@174-158-132-251.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] lQg2: how does sbopkg-0.31.0.tar.gz look like sbopkg-version-noarch-1_cng.tgz ? [15:56] Not at all! [15:56] pprkut: Looking at capabilities(7) might it help Lab_Rat to combine both sepcap and set_rlimits ? [15:57] pprkut: because, from what I can see, libcap can allow mlock, but has no/little concept of realtime scheduling. [15:57] alienBOB: sbopkg-0.31.0.tar.gz [15:57] kingbeowulf (n=kingbeow@ip11.73.dhcp-acs2.511.iinet.com) left irc: "Landru! Guide us!" [15:57] alienBOB: it seem that is source [15:57] lQg2: sbopkg-0.31.0.tar.gz != sbopkg-version-noarch-1_cng.tgz ... [15:58] lQg2: yes he mentioned that. [15:58] Lab_Rat: can you test what I just mentioned to pprkut? [16:00] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-178-171.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:01] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.79.176) left irc: "Leaving" [16:02] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.218.185) joined ##slackware. [16:04] eviljames, When I originally set up jack I did combine both setcap and set_rlimits.. [16:05] I've got a numerical UID and want to turn that into a name. I'm currently doing `getent passwd $a_uid | awk -F: '{ print $1 }'` but this seems ugly; are there any better ways that I'm missing? [16:05] I need to read through the man page yo are suggesting.. I am also thinking about reverting back to the earlier version of set_rlimits [16:06] Lab_Rat: good thoughts on both [16:06] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-59-111.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:06] also it might help to give set_rlimits the ipc_lock pcap [16:06] eviljames, yeah that's another good idea.. [16:07] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.13) joined ##slackware. [16:07] x-ip (n=sakura-s@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: "leaving" [16:08] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5653.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving." [16:09] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:09] eviljames: possible. Though I do think posix capabilities alone should suffice [16:10] this all worked just fine on slack-12.2 2.6.27.31 and that has me thinking I missed something in compiling the kernel I am using [16:10] veritos (n=veritos@swallow.ee.washington.edu) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:12] Ziggy` (n=krotz@85-220-53-115.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:12] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-67-162-31-157.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:13] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-67-162-31-157.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:14] JK3MP (n=jkemp@174-158-132-251.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:14] eviljames: interestingly enough I only get errors when starting jackd from within qjackctl. No errors on cli [16:15] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:15] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [16:15] sdi (n=sdi@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:16] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65210e1.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [16:16] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Client Quit [16:17] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [16:17] Linus (n=SlackWar@a85-139-11-94.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:18] TJohn (i=as@118-160-161-2.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:19] icarus_ (n=icarus@82.211.203.74) joined ##slackware. [16:19] Anyone familiar with installing kwin decorations ? In particular, I'm having no lock getting Aurorae to show up on the list even though I've run through the installation [16:20] imarambiocatan_ (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:20] Rrrr (n=kalaitis@84.15.114.128) left irc: "leaving" [16:21] TJohn (i=as@118-160-161-2.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:21] pirving (n=jd@pool-72-73-119-77.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [16:22] sdi (n=sdi@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:25] Lab_Rat: did you start jack from within qjackctl when trying with posix caps? [16:26] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:29] dakarn (n=skas@cpe-76-175-69-235.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:29] pprkut, Yes and it failed [16:31] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) joined ##slackware. [16:31] Lab_Rat: ok, I just found out that qjackctl needs the same capabilities set [16:31] Lab_Rat: setcap cap_ipc_lock,cap_sys_nice=ep /usr/bin/qjackctl [16:31] SlackLnx (n=SlackWar@a85-139-11-87.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:32] pirving (n=jd@pool-72-73-119-77.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:33] Lab_Rat: after that there are no more errors here and most apps work fine with it. (mplayer doesn't, but that may have other reasons) [16:34] pirving (n=jd@pool-72-73-119-77.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [16:34] pprkut funny you mention that I used cap_sys_nice=ep and setcap cap_ipc_lock separately but not in the same command [16:34] I was just headed there.. :) [16:35] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:35] Lab_Rat: well, that won't work. setcap will remove all previously set caps and only apply the one specified [16:36] you can check which caps are set with getcap [16:36] icarus_ (n=icarus@82.211.203.74) left irc: "leaving" [16:37] I have also been setting capabilities on jackd not qjackctl [16:37] sigmavirus24 (n=WhoAmI@pool-71-125-81-23.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:38] hm, setcap = useless if you use a filesystem that doesn't support posix caps (like reiserfs)? [16:38] yes [16:38] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "leaving" [16:39] Lab_Rat: set it for both [16:39] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:39] Lab_Rat: I think if you only use qjackctl, it might be enough to just set them there. But better be safe :) [16:40] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:40] Ah ok that makes sense... I can just dump it in rc.local if it works [16:40] Lab_Rat: no need to do that [16:40] I'm unable to switch from english to native language. Option "XkbOptions" "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll" [16:40] Lab_Rat: the capabilities will stay until you either upgrade/reinstall jack, or move the binary to another place [16:41] lQg2 huh? [16:41] Lab_Rat: they're like file permissions, you don't need rc.local to "chmod +x /bin/ls" on every boot either... [16:41] mancha: switcher does not work. [16:43] speak in entire sentences please [16:43] Ah ok I didn't understand how they get saved .. that makes sense [16:44] mancha: "switcher does not work." is an entire sentence (not necessarily a meaningful one all by itself...) [16:45] yeah you're right [16:45] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [16:45] whoa [16:45] mancha: The problem is defined keyabord switcher actually does not switch languages. I'm sure that my xorg.conf is correct in this part. [16:45] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: "Real_Life();" [16:45] Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "ru,us" Option "XkbOptions" "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll" [16:45] EndSection [16:46] bad Urchlay! [16:46] Linus (n=SlackWar@a85-139-11-94.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:46] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [16:46] Ok I don't get the errors but it still isn't working.. [16:46] pprkut: eh, sorry, I didn't mean to make him leave [16:46] :P [16:46] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:47] lQg2: don't you need a "xmodmap" command in .xinitrc to actually define which key is the "switch languages" key? [16:47] Lab_Rat: well, I haven't read what the actual problem is :) [16:47] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left ##slackware ("Gone"). [16:49] lQg2: I do not have such file in ~/ [16:49] Urchlay: I do not have such file in ~/ [16:49] lQg2: random google hit here: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg which contains this: "Note: Changing the keyboard layout through xorg.conf requires disabling input hot-plugging." [16:49] I dunno if that applies to you or not [16:49] pprkut what happens is jamin still fails to connect to jack nor does ardour see it. I need to look at whats actually happening a bit.. It appears it's not running in real time but not reporting it either [16:49] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:49] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.225.250.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:50] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:50] Lab_Rat: I don't think it's not running in realtime [16:50] yop-lait (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [16:50] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:50] Nick change: yop-lait -> [yop] [16:50] Lab_Rat: stupid question, starting ardour after starting jack, or before? [16:50] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-47.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:51] sigmavirus24 (n=WhoAmI@pool-71-125-81-23.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:51] Lab_Rat: failure to connect to jack, doesn't have anything to do with realtime-ness (a non-realtime app can connect to a realtime jack, and vice versa. You just get crappy performance without rt) [16:51] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-161-73.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:52] Lab_Rat: ps -eLo pid,cls,rtprio,pri,nice,cmd | grep jamin [16:52] Lab_Rat: if the 2nd column shows FF, then it's running realtime (FIFO scheduling), and the 3rd column shows the rt priority [16:52] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [16:53] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-123-061.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [16:53] pprkut, I am starting qjackctl then jamin then ardour [16:54] jamin shows no input or output ports [16:54] does "starting qjackctl" imply that you're clicking the "start" button to actually start jackd, before running jamin and ardour? [16:54] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Client Quit [16:54] (I dunno, maybe there's a way to get qjackctl to auto-start the jackd server when you run it, but I've always had to run qjackctl, then click "start") [16:54] Urchlay: thank you. problem solved. [16:55] Urchlay, I start qjackctl from kde and that's a good question .. I do not hit the start button as it says it's already started [16:55] lQg2: really? You had to disable hotplugging, and that fixed it? [16:55] lest see what happens when I hit the sgtart button [16:55] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [16:56] if it's already started, the start button should be greyed out...? [16:56] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Client Quit [16:56] Urchlay++ [16:56] Guest33492 (n=Zack@fm-ip-118.136.212.154.fast.net.id) joined ##slackware. [16:56] Urchlay: yes. [16:56] Section "ServerFlags" Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" [16:56] EndSection [16:56] IceChant (n=icechant@94.159.233.152) joined ##slackware. [16:56] sQuEE (n=narya@host80.201-252-49.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [16:57] also, to confuse matters further: if you start ardour, and it sees jackd isn't running, ardour will start jackd itself (no idea how well that interacts with qjackctl, better to avoid) [16:57] Urchlay, It is greyed out but stopping it and restarting it then starting jamin gives me i/o ports but nothing sees them.. jack doesn't nor does ardour [16:57] pprkut: well, I'm at a karmic balance of zero (one "bad Urchlay" and one "Urchlay++" so far...) [16:58] I should tell you all this works in root just not as a user [16:58] Lab_Rat: hm. [16:58] Urchlay: lol [16:59] not familiar with jamin, have you got another jack-using app you can try & see if ardour sees its i/o? [16:59] Lab_Rat: are you in the audio group? [16:59] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-140.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:59] Guest33492 (n=Zack@fm-ip-118.136.212.154.fast.net.id) left irc: Client Quit [16:59] (if nothing else, that may tell you whether it's a problem with ardour or jamin) [16:59] pprkut, oh no did I forget to do that...lol yes I am ... [17:00] hmm [17:00] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:00] also. After starting jamin, go look at "connections" in qjackctl (or is that what you're already doing?) [17:00] Urchlay, it all works as root.. jamin ardour and all. as a user adrour and jack play nice although not real time. [17:00] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "leaving" [17:01] Lab_Rat: and you are starting all three apps as the same user, right? [17:01] It looks like that WindowMaker WPrefs trying to display utf-8 text in, but i have koi8-r locale. Could anyone point out me how to fix it? [17:01] pprkut, yes [17:01] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-178.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:02] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [17:02] Lab_Rat: being curious, how do you see if it's realtime or not? The only clue I find is the "blinking" RT in qjackctl's status window [17:03] pprkut, Just a guess ... the RT indicator is blinking but I am getting overruns and callbacks.. I don't know exactly what is happening [17:03] pprkut: copy/paste magic: ps -eLo pid,cls,rtprio,pri,nice,cmd [17:03] if a process has FF in the 2nd column, it's running realtime [17:04] (running realtime does NOT guarantee there won't be dropouts/x-runs) [17:04] EvilWrite (n=evilwrit@unaffiliated/evilwrite) joined ##slackware. [17:04] lQg2: eh, there might not be a fix for that. Are you running "startx" or logging in graphically? [17:05] Urchlay: startx & [17:06] it does appear realtime is running [17:06] well, a few jack processes are realtime here [17:06] ardour isn't [17:06] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-157-53.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:06] 3296 FF 20 60 - /usr/bin/jackd -R -m -dalsa -dhw:0 -r48000 -p1024 -n2 [17:06] Urchlay: I'm not sure about utf-8. May be just wrong font somewhere. [17:06] 3217 FF 5 45 - /usr/bin/qjackctl [17:06] I don't have ardour started [17:07] smica (n=smica@h128-254.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: "Távozom" [17:08] There really should not be overruns I have used this setup wit a different kernel and it worked great.. Also nothing like that happens as root [17:08] Urchlay: fixed! [17:08] lQg2: hm. I was gonna say, if you're using graphical login, the system's locale might not match your user's (if you set it in ~/.bash_profile but not in /etc/profile.d/locale.sh or whatever it's called) [17:09] fixed? how? (I also run wmaker...) [17:09] Urchlay: it was not suitable font in /home/MY HOME/GNUstep/Defaults/WMGLOBAL file. [17:09] uva (i=bno@114-45-232-163.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:09] YZ (n=Yan@89-179-5-36.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:10] Urchlay: i've just change fonts for 'SystemFont' and for 'BoldSystemFont'. Now everything is fine [17:10] By default there is 'SystemFont = "Trebuchet MS,Luxi Sans";' and [17:10] 'BoldSystemFont = "Trebuchet MS,Luxi Sans:bold";' ... [17:11] ahh [17:11] Just for fun I am going to go back to a previous version of set_rlimits .. That's the major thing I changed aside from the kernel [17:11] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [17:11] Hi! Does anyone know how to turn off the gnome-vfs support in gxine 0.5.904? [17:12] I have the same (Trebuchet MS,Luxi Sans), guess it's default for wmaker... no font problems here, but then my local is en_US.UTF-8 (I suck at speaking all other languages) [17:13] YZ: it can probably be done at compile time with "./configure --disable-gnome-vfs" or something like that [17:13] I've just built the xine-lib 1.1.16.2 with --disable-gnomevfs, but still have libgnomevfs-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. in gxine [17:14] Lab_Rat: well, I'm at a loss. It works just fine here. (In fact, it never worked better than today...) [17:14] possible that gxine itself needs a recompile? [17:15] I've recompiled the gxine too. :) With no result. [17:15] Guys, could anyone help me with nVidia driver? [17:15] smica (n=smica@h128-254.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [17:15] pprkut It has worked well for me in the past ... It would seem I have missed something very simple somewhere. [17:15] YZ: wait, how the heck did you get libxine and gxine built with gnomevfs support in the first place? The ones that ship with Slackware don't use it. [17:16] for example... not being in the audio group ... the user is of course but it's got to be something that lame [17:16] (because gnome-vfs doesn't ship with slackware at all. If you have it, you added it yourself...) [17:16] EvilWrite (n=evilwrit@unaffiliated/evilwrite) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:16] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [17:16] Lab_Rat: haha. Well if you find out, let me know. I'm curious :) [17:17] of course I am pretty damned curious myself.. I will let you know [17:17] No, I didn't add gnome-vfs. And I want to get the gxine working without it. [17:17] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.194.166) joined ##slackware. [17:18] YZ: you're running plain old Slackware? Not Slackware + GSB or something like that? Not something that says it's "Slackware based"? [17:18] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:19] I use Slackware11, but I've built GTK+2.18.5, glib 2.23.0, cairo 1.8.8, pango 1.26.2. [17:20] none of those include gnomevfs [17:20] some other stuff may need recompiling [17:20] see ya ) [17:20] *;) [17:20] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-228-250.33-151.iol.it) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [17:20] YZ: slackware 11? Still didn't ship with gnome, did it? [17:21] YZ: it was removed in 10.2 [17:21] Urchlay: ^ [17:22] No, I don't need gnome. And don't use it at all. But I use some of GTK-based apps like gxine. [17:23] YZ: even still, the simplest solution is to untar the source tarball and find if there is a "--without-gnome-vfs" flag to configure [17:23] maybe gxine hadnt been rebuilt for 11.0 [17:23] Lab_Rat: when you do solve this, please keep me posted as well [17:24] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@109.93.167.14) joined ##slackware. [17:24] sahk0: checked the slackbuilds, nothing about gnome-vfs [17:25] how much memory is you guys' X using? [17:25] NaCl: no i mean since till 10.2 gnome was part of Slackware , maybe gxine wasnt updated during 10.2->11.0 circle [17:25] mine is up to 140megs [17:25] ldd gxine also say nothing about gnome-vfs [17:25] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [17:25] .. which seems a liiiitle bit excessive imho [17:26] sahk0: hm. maybe [17:26] Action: NaCl started using slackware at 11 [17:26] what, slackware 11, or when you were 11? :) [17:26] No, I've rebuilt the gxine 30 minutes ago. :) It's the gxine 0.5.904 [17:27] Urchlay: slackware 11 [17:27] NaCl: I know, I was being goofy [17:27] Here is my configure args for gxine: [17:28] Urchlay: gotcha [17:28] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left irc: "Leaving." [17:29] ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib --mandir=/usr/man --disable-static --with-browser-plugin --enable-lirc [17:30] YZ: I don't see "--disable-gnome-vfs" or anything similar (you should run "./configure --help|grep gnome" and see what the actual option is called, or if it even exists) [17:30] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.72.86) joined ##slackware. [17:30] anyway, gotta go, see you later people... [17:32] dakarn (n=skas@cpe-76-175-69-235.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:33] MrDusty (n=dusty@174.37.216.194) joined ##slackware. [17:33] dakarn (n=skas@cpe-76-175-69-235.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:33] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.45.104) joined ##slackware. [17:34] Did it. Nothing about gnome and vfs. I've also searched in configure script, makefiles. Nothing about vfs. :( [17:34] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [17:35] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-123-061.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [17:35] limac (n=chatzill@ool-45745b2f.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] you built those glib/gtk packages from source, right? [17:37] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [17:37] could anyone help me with install nVidia driver? [17:37] Yes, from source. [17:37] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:38] lQg2: search for it on slackbuilds.org [17:38] YZ: hm. don't have any more ideas there [17:38] I find that gxine is moderately crashy on my system, but YMMV [17:39] NaCl: I got it from nvidia.com [17:40] lQg2: then run "sh NVIDIA..whatever........run" and follow directions [17:40] Aren't there install instructions somewhere? unless you know what you're doing, installing and uninstalling the nvidia stuff can kill X and libGL. [17:40] NaCl: then never uninstall ;-) [17:40] I haven't had a problem with it yet. It removes files from the mesa package, though. [17:40] But, re-installing mesa and xorg-server will break the nvidia driver [17:40] iirc there are instructions on slackwiki [17:41] alienBOB: there is different errors depending on version number [17:41] NaCl: small correction. It doesn't remove them, but it moves them ;) [17:41] Errors? 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[18:20] it wants kernel sources to compile against [18:20] dermoth (n=dermoth@205.151.111.9) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:20] do i have kernel sources? [18:21] You should install those [18:21] where they should be? [18:21] /usr/src/linux [18:21] It's installed as part of a full install [18:22] there is 373M. it is not a kernel sources? [18:23] do you have a kernel-source package installed? [18:25] slackpkg search kernel reports '[ upgrade ]' on all kernel-* [18:25] [ upgrade ] - kernel-source-2.6.29.6_smp-noarch-2 [18:25] MrDusty (n=dusty@174.37.216.194) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:26] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [18:26] impy (n=impy@host86-145-130-32.range86-145.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:26] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-123-061.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [18:28] how do i force root fs check upon boot? [18:28] limac (n=chatzill@ool-45745b2f.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]" [18:28] man shutdown [18:29] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:30] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.225.250.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:30] tnx [18:30] there is an error when I run 'ogg123': ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'. xmms, for example, unable to play anything. Any idea how to fix it? [18:30] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [18:30] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [18:31] http://www.dresden-26-gigapixels.com/dresden26GP [18:31] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Client Quit [18:33] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [18:33] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-157-53.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:33] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-43-157-53.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:34] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:38] lQg2: try running alsaconf [18:41] Action: pirving is learning much from slackbasics.org. Is this site endorsed by this channel? [18:42] Reticenti (n=reticent@68.190.183.125) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:44] tuxdev (n=tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: "Leaving" [18:44] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [18:44] snL20: thanks. got it work. [18:45] pirving: it's a good site imho [18:45] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:46] pirving: slackbasics.org is created by a good guy [18:46] BP{k} I've always said I know just enough to be dangerous. This channel has taught me the most. My learning curve is slowing. I need a new obsession. [18:46] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: No route to host [18:46] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:46] crashdata (n=crashdat@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:46] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:46] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [18:46] Looks like I need more shell exp. [18:47] _bruno_ (n=bruno@201-43-157-53.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [18:47] is there anyway to extract drive from turboprint? [18:47] driver* [18:48] emacs, reading kernel.org Usenet [18:49] wow major updates in current [18:49] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:49] sahk0, what's the update? [18:50] there have been 3 major updates to current,a nd they are all kde :( [18:50] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [18:50] nice [18:50] i was about to say, still no gtk update :p [18:50] agreed [18:51] thrice`: Firefox is not KDE [18:51] [G]Solarisk (n=3wr@chello089072048128.chello.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [18:52] alienBOB, I mean, generally, since 13 is out, -current is incredibly boring for non-kde users [18:52] also no seamonkey. i thought i read there was a bugfix release. but might be wrong [18:52] [G]TurnUnlaggedO (n=3wr@chello089072048128.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:53] thrice`: so start using KDE [18:53] Action: NaCl runs rsync [18:53] or another distro [18:53] [G]TurnUnlaggedO (n=3wr@chello089072048128.chello.pl) left irc: Client Quit [18:53] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:53] Of course that is also possible [18:53] i moved from gnome to kde lolz [18:53] recently :) [18:53] kde is much better now imo [18:55] crashdata (n=crashdat@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:55] libsamplerate included to build k3b without that huge patch [18:56] I moved from kde and gnome to xfce [18:57] because my computer can't run kde or gnome :( [18:57] very well anyway [19:00] evo_ (n=evo@p5B2FD5A5.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Don't mind your make-up, make your mind up!" [19:01] confrey (n=dario@151.59.24.74) left irc: "Sto andando via" [19:02] [TurnUnlaggedOff (n=3wr@chello089072048128.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [19:03] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [19:03] hhmm actually k3b is still built with internal libsamplerate [19:03] Nick change: [yop] -> yop-lait [19:03] is that really needed since libsamplerate is now part of Slackware [19:03] it seems to be added for liblastfm [19:04] MrDusty (n=dusty@174.37.216.194) joined ##slackware. [19:05] MrDusty (n=dusty@174.37.216.194) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:06] Nick change: yop-lait -> [yop] [19:07] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-123-061.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:07] sirslacker (i=1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: "Leaving." [19:08] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-90-136.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:10] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-90-136.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:14] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] RTD (n=RTD@118-168-237-130.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:17] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:17] Hello,where can I find emacs no-x for slackware?the official slackware package site seems to be temporarily unavailable [19:18] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@109.93.167.14) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:19] emacs -nw opens emacs in a terminal [19:19] and slackbuild looks like having such package [19:19] oh [19:19] my emacs have problems,I install slackware 13.0 withou x [19:20] then my emacs cannot work [19:20] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:21] I'd like to uninstall it then take a no-x one [19:21] you can rebuild emacs using the script from the Slackware tree adding --without-x [19:21] RTD: emacs-22.3-no-x11 [19:21] try that [19:21] it's a command [19:22] inside the 13.0 DVDiso? [19:22] ah [19:22] skaro (n=skaro@ip68-11-174-155.br.br.cox.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:22] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:22] I'm sad I'm the only one using CD-R's anymore [19:22] Oops [19:23] deco:u do a magic,it works [19:23] RTD: yay \o/ [19:23] I just thought my emacs is a broken one [19:23] heh [19:25] smica (n=smica@h128-254.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: "Távozom" [19:26] save your shady inference [19:27] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:27] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:27] I enjoy being logged [19:28] I will yield the channel. sorry. bad troll (slap myself) [19:29] i still use CDr and DVDr (depending on what i am burning) [19:29] yeah, my car doesn't have any aux-in jack, so CDs are the order of the day for me there too [19:30] otherwise I think optical media is mostly dead. [19:30] YZ (n=Yan@89-179-5-36.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [19:31] from your mouth (keyboard) to gods ear. as we say here [19:32] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-90-136.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:32] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-90-136.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:33] cwg (n=cwg@60-241-87-211.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [19:35] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:37] my little s-10 pickup still has the stock am/fm cassette player in it., i am not one to spend much money on music [19:38] i dont even have any cassette tapes, i just use the radio [19:40] lol s10 [19:40] Necrogami (n=aswartz@unaffiliated/necrogami) joined ##slackware. [19:41] oh great. k3b isnt patched anymore [19:43] i like my little beater pickup! [19:44] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [19:46] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [19:48] cwg (n=cwg@60-241-87-211.static.tpgi.com.au) left ##slackware. [19:48] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:50] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-72-82-75-108.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:50] fwc (i=0@204.210.154.184) joined ##slackware. [19:50] Heya,slackers [19:51] heya MLanden, how are you? [19:52] doin' great fire|bird...just updated icecat to 3.5.6...yourself? [19:52] ugh [19:52] MLanden: doing great, thank you. [19:52] firefox spinoffs makin me angry [19:53] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:54] fire|bird: cool...messin' with anything new? [19:54] MLanden: not really, no. [19:54] you? [19:55] other than building and upgrading icecat ,no [19:56] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [19:56] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Client Quit [19:58] xovan (n=xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:59] fire|bird: did mess with the svn of e17 during the weekend though...coming along nicely [20:00] MLanden: no I haven't, yet. It's been a thought in the back of my mind though. :P [20:07] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [20:08] kim-20f (i=TaLiHSiZ@41.236.14.48) joined ##slackware. [20:09] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:09] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [20:09] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.218.185) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:15] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:22] agentc0re|work (n=jon@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [20:24] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:24] evening all. [20:24] Reticenti: did you get your nvidia stuff worked out? [20:25] agentc0re|work: yeah, thanks :) [20:25] Reticenti: what did you have to do? [20:25] i had to change the xorg.conf-vesa to fit my monitor [20:26] agentc0re|work: have you tried chrome's certificate stuff? [20:26] and use nvidia instead of vesa [20:26] so nvidia-settings still doesn't see the right configuration yet? [20:26] nope [20:26] i do have a really old monitor thoug [20:26] though* [20:26] NaCl: not yet. i just switched back to my PC from netbook(which had chrome) and haven't full configured it how i want. What is it? [20:26] Reticenti: you could always try nvidia-xconfig and tweak that [20:26] EuroTrash (n=rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:26] NaCl: tried it, didnt work [20:27] Yeah, the really old monitor part may make a difference [20:27] but, it's working fine now [20:27] i jsut had to manually add refresh rates and the res [20:28] agentc0re|work: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxCertManagement [20:28] Which says it pretty much doesn't work yet, and no GUI exists yet. [20:29] hrm... interesting. [20:29] bah, brb. [20:29] agentc0re|work (n=jon@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:31] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: No route to host [20:31] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [20:32] crashdata (n=crashdat@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:33] ahh sweet just finished installing all the updates on slack current [20:34] M$ is a wumpus. Hunt the wumpus. [20:34] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-72-126-110.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:38] blackcat (i=whyzass@rain.tolerantsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [20:38] urthwrm (n=hooch@203-206-17-151.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [20:39] Nick change: blackcat -> Guest52561 [20:40] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.76.40.87) joined ##slackware. [20:41] Staden (n=lkjl@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [20:42] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: [20:42] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-67-191-58-46.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:45] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [20:45] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:50] kim-20f (i=TaLiHSiZ@41.236.14.48) left irc: No route to host [20:50] dorin_ro (n=dorin@92.84.206.1) joined ##slackware. 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[21:30] how do I fix "libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to load the latest opera on slack 13? [21:30] jeev jeev take a break you're getting old [21:30] apn (n=apn@12.34.13.132) joined ##slackware. [21:30] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-75-61-134-187.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:30] jeev that does not deserve an answer [21:31] last time I fixed it, I had opera working... but everything else failed to work at all. [21:31] nv4Phil: that is the qt3 library, you have a choice of installing qt3 or getting a different opera build that uses qt4 [21:31] nv4Phil: Opera does have a gcc4-qt4 tarball available. [21:31] Or install qt3 from kde-compat. [21:32] where do I find that qt4 opera tarball? [21:32] I grabbed it from Opera's ftp site. [21:32] linky? [21:33] One sec .. are you running x86 or x86_64? [21:33] x86 [21:33] I tried to ftp ftp.opera.org and that failed. [21:34] ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/1010/final/en/i386/opera-10.10.gcc4-qt4.i386.tar.bz2 [21:34] <-- idiot... it's .com [21:34] thanks lol. ok...let's see how this works [21:35] You're welcome. [21:37] ok, that version of opera works... Thank you very much. [21:37] nixchix0r (n=nixchix@97.127.216.244) left irc: Connection timed out [21:37] nixchix0r (n=nixchix@168-103-57-238.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [21:38] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:39] I'm gonna try opera with facebook for a bit. I got so sick and tired of firefox crashing when someone would send me a facebook message [21:39] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [21:42] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:45] nv4Phil, try google chrome [21:47] thepeng (n=master@m390436d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [21:47] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable213.189-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:51] sadsfae (n=sadsfae@funcamp.net) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.1" [21:52] crashdata: what are the pro's and con's of chrome v. opera? [21:53] nv4Phil: why is that you don't like ff ? [21:54] init[1]: firefox either completely crashes, or blows a gasket and does a memory leak, every time I receive an "instant message" from a facebook user. [21:54] sadsfae (n=sadsfae@funcamp.net) joined ##slackware. [21:54] i have an issue with a NIC, basically it doesn't work, with numerous strange symptoms. it's recognized etc no problem, but can't retrieve an IP from DHCP, and configured as static isn't pingable and the dropped packets field seems to steadily climb if i do an ifconfig eth1 up. [21:54] oxiredo (n=dorin@92.84.206.1) left irc: "Leaving" [21:54] nv4Phil: which version were you using? [21:54] I havent installed opera for a while..but chrome in comparison with FF...first off, boot time is much faster, handles some website much compare with firefox. [21:55] never had problem, interms of crashing... [21:55] try it..... [21:55] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-219-126.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Connection timed out [21:55] i've observed, however that my bios has a PCI IRQ section, which has both cards listed. the IRQ is the same, and stuck that way. if i change one it changes the other. i forget how to configure IRQ's it's been so long, is this a conflict or is the problem elsewhere? [21:55] MLanden: two different versions of ff did that to me. this is 3.5.2 [21:55] kamel, try moving the jack? [21:55] lQg2_ (n=vnv@88-229-178-94.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: "out" [21:55] on the card itself? [21:56] the jack? [21:56] sorry, not sure what you mean [21:56] nv4Phil: may have been fixed...know firefox just updated to 3.5.6 [21:56] yah, i dont know how to explain it...its similar to the pin that u move on the old IDE hard drive [21:56] from slave to primary, etc [21:57] crashdata: that'd be a jumper. [21:57] ikonia (n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) left irc: Connection timed out [21:57] oops lolz [21:57] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable213.189-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:57] MLanden: well, the past two version did it, so I assume the next one will do it too lol [21:58] nv4Phil: true [21:58] crashdata: it has no jumper assignments available [21:59] what i'm asking [21:59] is if they need a unique IRQ [21:59] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:59] i know [21:59] maybe i should continue to consult google... i'm just drawing blanks on search terms [22:01] setting up a server? i'm looking for old computer to do that... [22:01] saw some freebies on craigs :P [22:02] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:03] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-212-134.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [22:03] http://support.amd.com/us/System-Building-and-Compatibility/Pages/ComplexConfigurationsandIRQInformationfortheAMDProcessors.aspx [22:03] yes, i am [22:03] lol [22:04] it's a fairly nice comp [22:04] 1ghz p3 512mb of ram [22:04] for a server, that is [22:07] CitizenLane (n=lane@c-69-243-237-89.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] ahaha. that's funny. i'm building a kernel on similar fairly nice comp atm. it's been 2 hours already %\ [22:07] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [22:07] cool.... [22:08] i have tons of old memories...just need a shell lolz :) [22:08] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [22:08] kamel what are u building? [22:08] a pile of crap, apparently [22:08] lolz that made me lol [22:08] trying to get a server up for sme basic stuff [22:09] ahh..i'm thinking of making a router/file server [22:09] i want it to serve as a router [22:09] file server i mean [22:09] print server/router [22:09] yah me to [22:09] i'm not even sure if thats adviseable lolz [22:09] and it will do some other basic things, but nothing too fancy [22:09] it's not, but i personally don't care so much [22:10] i have no problem running web servers etc on the same box that does routing [22:10] alright i gotta go to bed = [22:10] =\ [22:10] k man...good luck :) [22:10] night all, thanks for your help [22:11] I eat luck and poop fate [22:12] that's awesome antiwire [22:12] Thank you. [22:12] much more creative than eating lead and shitting bullets [22:13] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. 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