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[00:06] I just did a fresh install of slackware 12.1 on one of my computers and I tried compile a simple c program and I get this error message /usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.2.3/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory [00:06] haha thaks agentc0re [00:06] s/thaks/thanks [00:06] I've tried reinstalling gcc and glibc but to no avail [00:06] aceofspades19: does it exist? [00:07] let me check [00:08] Weird0ne (n=Rogue@cpe-75-85-243-63.bak.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:08] agentc0re: no it doesn't [00:08] I don't understand why though [00:09] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [00:10] brb [00:10] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-31-222.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:11] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-31-222.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] hektik (n=hektik@adsl-69-234-109-147.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] hektik (n=hektik@adsl-69-234-109-147.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:13] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [00:21] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) joined ##slackware. [00:21] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:21] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:22] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [00:22] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-71-254-223-75.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: "rcirc on GNU Emacs 22.2.1" [00:22] w000t [00:23] so no ideas on how to fix that error I'm getting [00:24] aceofspades19: show the full error set. [00:25] Actually, don't. Just reinstall (use upgradepkg --reinstall --install-new ) on the D series. [00:25] hologram (n=hologram@ip68-228-57-91.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:25] rworkman: ok [00:25] You didn't do a full install, did you? [00:25] rworkman: no, I just didn't install anything that had to do with x [00:26] Nick change: zumz -> credo [00:26] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:26] I installed all of D [00:26] You missed something else, it seems. [00:26] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [00:26] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [00:27] hmmm [00:27] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:28] I'll have to do something about this tommorrow [00:30] m1 (n=m1@c-76-28-91-187.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:32] smica (n=smica@91.146.170.103) left irc: [00:33] Ruthven (n=mbutler@adsl-70-234-173-207.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [00:35] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: " " [00:38] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:39] Weird0ne (n=Rogue@cpe-75-85-243-63.bak.res.rr.com) left irc: " HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- It'll be on slashdot one day..." [00:42] rworkman, do you use anything like mercurial, but one that is friendly to having sourcetarballs tracked, but not dying on you if they're over 10 mb in size? [00:43] rworkman, for your builds and buildscripts I mean. [00:46] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [00:47] Old_Fogie: I don't. However, if I were going to use some sort of tool like that, it would probably be svn. [00:48] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:48] At this point, it's entirely possible that I'd use bzr, but only because I'm relatively familiar with it. Svn has all the feature set needed for that though. [00:49] rworkman, ah ok. yeah these sync up tools suck for SlackBuild type locations. If I (or you) were to use bzr, mercurial, and it seems git... we would _not_ have the sources in $CWD... we'd have some value in our slackbuild that says $SRCDIR= <-- which would be one big folder and sourceballs. Else, the sourceballs being 10 meg or bigger... these rev control apps just *die* [00:49] that SRCDIR would be outside your entire repo of what's tracked. [00:50] so only your patches, diffs, slack-desc and appname.SlackBuild will be tracked [00:50] From what I understand, bzr can handle binary files just fine. [00:50] I'm reading rdiff-backup now. [00:50] rworkman, bzr: doesn't here. I'm not latest rev but it's dying on a linux kernel source ball [00:51] so 50 meg'ish [00:51] I hash verified the sourceball to be sure , wasnt bad...and it died on the next bigger file [00:51] Maybe a better idea is a .bzrignore that has *.tar.?z* in it [00:52] that bzr is nice tho, eaiser than mercurial, I give them that [00:52] rworkman, I was thinking that, and then I realized, I've been making ... archive-appname.tar.gz for long time :) [00:52] hahah [00:53] That's needless dupe though, if you're using bzr. Let bzr do the work for you. [00:53] I've read you can use some kind of fancy regexp to ignore stuff, in mercurial, like by file size,but that's beyond me. I google for 25 minutes on that [00:53] rworkman, agreed, but that's my current backups, til' I get comfy with bzr ya know :) [00:53] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [00:56] rworkman, ya know, this here http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/examples.html combined with a simple md5 of each file in my tree. I could restore to a tmp direcotry, and just 'diff -u checksums.new checksums.old" and see what changed I suppose. [00:56] rworkman, oh nm it lists file changes, hmm gonna try that out. [00:57] yea this might be what the DR ordered [00:57] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:57] Anakin (n=Anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [00:57] Well, mine ordered sleep, so I'm off for the night. Good luck. :) [00:57] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:57] ok night rworkman [01:00] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-1.dial.telus.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:00] tuvok302-a (i=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-105.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. 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[02:13] morning slackware [02:14] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:15] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:16] morning slackytude. how are you? [02:17] still alive. and if I dont move my arms, everything is fine [02:17] firebird619, how bout you? [02:18] slackytude: :) I'm good [02:18] Action: slackytude was in fitness center yesterday [02:18] first time in quite some time [02:18] slackytude: and feeling the affects today? [02:18] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [02:19] aye [02:19] as I said, all is fine as long as I dont use my arms [02:21] do you just have your hands on the keyboard constantly then so you can type and not move your arms? :) [02:21] keyboard is ok. drinking coffee is painfull [02:21] and I need to drink coffee [02:22] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:23] did you fall down at the fitness center? [02:23] nope [02:23] morning Old_Fogie [02:23] hiya. why's the arms hurt? [02:24] doing muscle training for arms, back and stomach [02:24] s/doing/did [02:24] oh oh oh, you overdid it. I see now. [02:24] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:24] Action: slackytude nods [02:25] yeah, been there, done that, wrote a book about it, gave it up for Lent :) [02:25] heh [02:25] been there too, but its been some time [02:26] not used to it anymore [02:26] You know, I'm no Charles Atlas, but it still takes a lot of work to maintain this figure. I have to eat 6x a day too. Like pizza, lasagna, hamburgers...:) [02:26] heh [02:26] I hear you [02:26] Yes, this round belly, someting I owned, and something they can't take away :) [02:26] own [02:27] they dont know what effort it takes to shape your body [02:27] Then again, if there were a way to "whack" off the belly over here, I'd probably do a triple lindy backwards, from the slingshot effect hahahaha! [02:27] heh :P [02:28] I went to the Dr. and he says to me, "well don't you want to see your toes?" and I said..."why in the hell would I want to do that, I ain't clipped them or clean them in 20 years at least!" [02:29] ... man you should've see his face. [02:29] eww [02:29] I can imagine [02:29] well, I was going for the *full* shock value effect [02:30] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [02:30] Action: The-Croupier waves [02:30] hello The-Croupier [02:30] Old_Fogie, Im guessing you succeeded [02:30] morning, The-Croupier [02:30] slackytude, oh yeah. He was totally dumbfounded [02:30] Guest1740878011 (i=Gargantu@24.64.99.224) joined ##slackware. [02:31] hi guys ;) [02:31] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-188.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [02:32] slackytude, like the girl in the office, the nurse over there. Says to me get on the scale, and I said why? She say's well I wanna know what it says. I told her "well when I get on the scale at home, it says "one at a time please" so ...wright that down there on your little clipboard , ahahah. [02:32] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:32] i need a small help: say for example i run airodump :(, i wanted to get the bssid from the output it genererates and put it in a file, does anyone know how to do that? [02:32] bssid is the first column if that helps [02:32] cut [02:32] or awk [02:32] been trying for 2days now... [02:33] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:33] tried awk too :( but not managing it for some reason...i think because it refreshes all the time [02:33] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [02:33] tried sourcing it? [02:33] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-241.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [02:33] sourcing and pass to one of them? [02:33] Old_Fogie: ?! [02:34] Old_Fogie, eh, you are a dirty old man, dude [02:34] and I say that with respect [02:34] The-Croupier, the source command, of a text file, reads data. Like SBo's appname.info file. You can source that and get appname, or md5 out of it, etc. [02:34] The-Croupier, I have a script that "sources" a SBo text file, downloads the source, and md5sums it on it's own. [02:34] that's "sourceing" [02:34] sourcing [02:35] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:35] Old_Fogie: could you share it ? so i get an idea?? [02:35] so long as there is some kind of field name, like 'ssid numbers-numbers' you can source it [02:36] . *.info && wget -c -T 5 $DOWNLOAD && . $(basename $(pwd)).info && for f in *; do if [ $(md5sum $f | awk '{print $1}') = "$MD5SUM" ]; then true; break; fi; false; done && echo MD5OK || echo MD5ERR [02:36] So, if the SBo info file is there, it 'sources' it for them values, downloads it, compares the hash values, and prints OK if it's good. [02:37] The-Croupier, see the "." in the beginning, that is "source"; or you could just type source if you like, each his own [02:37] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-175-85.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:37] i see... when i run airodump...i get bssid and underneath that..the mac bssid... [02:38] they are in lines...i want to grab only that..nothing else and redirect it in another file or parameter [02:38] no wget or downloading something [02:40] mithenks (n=eymerich@213.243.231.37) left irc: "Sto andando via" [02:40] I'd think that cut would be the way on that, but not sure how to do it. [02:41] cut -f 1 or something [02:41] awk '{print $1}' [02:41] The-Croupier, could you pastebin the file somewhere? [02:41] bb in 10, time for my first breakfast [02:42] brb [02:45] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.19.112) joined ##slackware. [02:46] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [02:46] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:47] Nick change: Guest1740878011 -> Gargantua [02:47] slackytude: idont have a file... im trying to figure out how can i grab that first ... the file i have is just testing things [02:47] is it possible to test FF-3.1beta alongside 3.0? [02:47] it garbagge [02:47] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-51.york.ac.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:48] The-Croupier, alrite [02:49] so it would be soemthing on the lines of # airodump -w test wlan0 | awk '{print$1}' [02:49] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-51.york.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:49] slackytude: am i on the right track? [02:50] the will print first coloum, delimited by white space [02:50] s/the/that [02:50] thats what i need the first column..as it is [02:51] but if airodump is something like top, I doubt it will work [02:51] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [02:51] slackytude: it is something like top [02:51] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:51] thats whats my difficulty [02:51] not sure what to do then [02:51] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:51] cant you tell it to dump into a file? [02:51] and prase the file afterwards [02:51] parse [02:52] slackytude: ? [02:53] well, cant you tell airodump to save everything to a file? [02:54] and read the info from the file afterwards [02:55] Nick change: lw0x15_ -> lw0x15 [02:55] Buggaboo (n=bug@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [02:57] tried that already but the file is messed up [02:57] need to find a way to make it be sorted somehow..the only thing that seperates one word from th eother are spaces [02:57] spaces are good enough [02:57] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:57] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:57] waffle__ (n=isnick@AGrenoble-257-1-65-138.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:58] The-Croupier, could you upload such a file somewhere? [02:58] The-Croupier, I have no idea how you'd read values from std output like top [02:59] give 3minutes [02:59] PiCkSiE (n=X@189.186.19.189) joined ##slackware. [03:00] hi ! [03:04] guys, i seriously need to try out Firefox-3.1b3 and the Vietnamese interface because mozilla asia was looking to promote FF in Vietnam, any pointer as to how to get 3.1b3 installed alongside 3.0.5? [03:05] slackytude: http://pastebin.ca/1339843 [03:05] that is the file i get...and its in txt [03:06] ... [03:06] and its not that much sorted either [03:06] IntangibleLiquid, the binary version will run from any directory that you extract the binary tarball into. so if you extract it to /home/IntangibleLiquid/firefox-version and cd into that dir, and run ./run-mozilla.sh it will run. it will not see plugins tho. you'll need to adjust it like slackware does for the offical Slackware release of FF which too, is a binary repack. [03:06] Action: The-Croupier waves at spook [03:07] The-Croupier, and you want all MAC adresses out of that? [03:08] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-241.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [03:09] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) left irc: "Leaving" [03:11] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.2.6"). [03:14] yes [03:15] habtool (n=habtool@86.41.70.61) joined ##slackware. [03:17] Old_Fogie, thanks, didn't know that it was a binary thing :-) [03:18] IntangibleLiquid, yw [03:18] waffle___ (n=isnick@AGrenoble-257-1-45-96.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:19] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:21] habtool (n=habtool@86.41.70.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:22] firebird619 (n=jeremy@173-17-137-255.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [03:23] Man-erg (n=meck@85-18-136-67.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [03:23] waffle__ (n=isnick@AGrenoble-257-1-65-138.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:23] Nick change: waffle___ -> waffle__ [03:26] The-Croupier: so, `awk '{print $1}'` should do what you want, no? [03:26] The-Croupier, something like cat file | awk -F , /??:??:??:??/ '{print $1}' [03:26] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [03:27] use , as field delimiter, process only lines with a MAC adress and print first coloumn [03:28] don't have one argument with a cat, use awk file [03:28] yeah, well, whatever [03:29] otherwise i agree, but i thought The-Croupier wants to distinguish the two blocks of data, so he could just keep the header line [03:34] thanks guys ill try that in 2mins [03:35] QWonder (n=QW@c-71-203-15-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:42] i get this and not only the mac :( :> 00:1F:C6:D7:F0:9C, 2009-02-13 19:25:08, 2009-02-13 19:25:36, 172, [03:43] cat file | awk -F /??:??:??:??/ '{print $1}' : i deleted the comma after the "-F" though [03:44] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:44] that means no field delimiter [03:44] jus drop -F completly then [03:44] so you wanna snag all the accurances in form "00:1F:C6:D7:F0:9C" > [03:44] ? [03:44] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "Leaving" [03:44] Soul_keeper: yes [03:45] what file is this ? [03:45] i can write a perl program to do that .. [03:45] its a txt file [03:46] i need it in a script way ;) [03:46] unless i can call the perl program from the script that would help [03:46] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:46] dropping -F completely i get error that fatal: cannot open file `{print $1}' [03:47] psufan (i=47e84e24@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1e2abe5d3d6987ca) joined ##slackware. [03:47] hi [03:47] im on the toilet.. [03:47] trying to pinch off a brown log :| [03:47] alienBOB: you around? [03:48] chopp: how are you doing? [03:48] im worried about splashback; this laptop is vented on the bottom :o [03:48] get a life man [03:48] i would but i have clinical depression [03:49] psufan: get a dildo then :p [03:49] The-Croupier: that's what i like about terding [03:49] the terd stimulates my prostate gland [03:49] The-Croupier, `{print $1}' is not correct. use ' only [03:49] it's a fantastic sensual experience [03:50] psufan, werent you banned yersterday? [03:50] slackytude: ? what do you mean [03:50] slackytude: i dont recall? [03:50] slackytude: its alright he will be today too [03:50] jack_ripper (n=jack_rip@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [03:50] does anyone know of a good program to split to [03:50] a Hard disk in half [03:51] an axe? [03:51] katana [03:51] imgpart ? [03:51] one for 80gb for Windows and 80 gb for Linux (slackware) [03:51] i'd like to split this poop in half [03:51] it's tearing my colon in two [03:51] ha ha [03:51] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:52] jack_ripper: partition magic for windows is fantastic [03:52] psufan: a free one? [03:52] its probably bootable idk [03:52] Camarade_Tux, sorry. thought you did something wrong, but I get same error. let me check [03:52] jack_ripper: you can make it free if you try hard enough [03:52] psufan: thanks for the heads up [03:52] jack_ripper, gparted cd [03:53] anyone got advice on softening my stool? [03:53] im having trouble pinching this log [03:53] dive: thanks [03:53] Camarade_Tux, wrong dude [03:53] The-Croupier, , sorry. thought you did something wrong, but I get same error. let me check [03:53] i only poop every 3-4 days [03:53] The-Croupier, cat foo | awk -F , '/??:??:??:??/ {print $1}' [03:53] i think this is unnatural maybe i have a tape worm? [03:53] The-Croupier, will give me only MAC [03:54] PiCkSiE (n=X@189.186.19.189) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:54] The-Croupier, cat foo | awk -F , '{print $1}' will give me MAC plus header [03:54] jack_ripper, partimage [03:54] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [03:54] slackytude, thanks will try it [03:54] waffle__ (n=isnick@AGrenoble-257-1-45-96.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware. [03:55] ok done urinating [03:55] see ya later brothers [03:55] jack_ripper, there are good live cd's with it [03:55] slackytude: thanks i see..ill try it imediately [03:55] psufan (i=47e84e24@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1e2abe5d3d6987ca) left ##slackware. [03:55] jack_ripper, or try gparted http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/gparted/ [03:56] slackytude: fantastic thanks [03:56] The-Croupier, awk syntax is a bit weired. I really like it but its one of the things I never get completly right on first try [03:57] like that you need to have the regexp inside the ' ' [03:57] Man-erg (n=meck@85-18-136-67.fastres.net) left irc: "Reconnecting" [03:58] Man-erg (n=meck@85-18-136-67.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [03:58] jack_ripper: i'd suggest using the GParted Live! livecd [03:58] sigh [03:58] 08:52 < dive> jack_ripper, gparted cd [03:59] or alternatively using a system recovery livecd like finnix, which will have parted and fdisk [03:59] dive: sorry, didn't see [04:03] slackytude: fantastic thanks man [04:03] I live to serve [04:03] ill see how i can seperate each line... and ill play around with it [04:03] thanks ;) [04:03] slackytude: you a cop? :p [04:04] nah [04:06] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4383377.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:16] chopp: I think psufan will not easily be able to re-join next time [04:19] alienBOB: good deal. The kid has some serious problems. [04:25] Anakin (n=Anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [04:30] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. 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[04:49] echo "foo bar baz" | grep "bar" -o [04:49] bar [04:49] you didn't even have to tripple dog dare me [04:49] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) joined ##slackware. [04:50] abing (n=abing@218.94.136.171) joined ##slackware. [04:51] SiegeX, that's not a regex tho [04:51] like /\d+.\d+./ [04:52] if you want to use PCRE you'll have to use -P [04:52] otherwise it uses ERE's [04:53] hi all. i have a AES2501 fingerprint reader, libfprint can driver it and fprint_demo works well. but PAM not included in slackware. how can i use the device to login? any ideas? [04:53] echo "foo bar baz" | egrep "fo{2}" -o [04:53] foo [04:53] there in an ERE for you [04:53] Karlitoo (n=Karlitoo@213.137.110.67) joined ##slackware. [04:54] good morning all [04:54] morning. :D [04:57] Nobody used fingerprint reader under slackware? [04:58] Did you guys notice how every episode of The Office starts with a telephone ring? [04:58] I just noticed it [04:58] thats what she said [04:58] abing, you need pam [04:58] nice [04:58] abing, ask nullboy for his pam packagets [04:58] abing: nullboy does, but he's not here right now. [04:58] heh, and no i didnt notice that. but ill keep an eye out now =) [04:59] slackytude: you mean reader cann't work for login without PAM? [04:59] Gargantua, no it doesnt [05:00] I'm pretty sure it does man [05:00] linux-pam package is in slacky's rep. [05:00] im watching one ep now that isnt [05:01] the american show, right? [05:01] hmm .. how do I tell find to cd to the dir before executing a command on the file ? [05:02] abing, no clue. It does work witk PAM, tho [05:03] slackytude: thanks. [05:05] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:07] nfriedli (n=nfriedli@115-123.105-92.cust.bluewin.ch) joined ##slackware. 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[05:24] slack [05:24] well 3 was [05:24] not always [05:24] abing (n=abing@218.94.136.171) left irc: "leaving" [05:26] The-Croupier, cat thefile.txt |tr "," "\n" | grep -E \([0-9A-F]{2}:\){5} - |tr " " "\b" [05:31] his problem was the useless use of cat [05:31] nfriedli (n=nfriedli@115-123.105-92.cust.bluewin.ch) left irc: "Quitte" [05:32] k [05:32] Action: spook sets the frozen eel cannon to full-auto [05:34] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-192218.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:37] Action: dive puts his rubber hat on and checks the sky for falling frozen eels [05:38] Action: spook shoots dive with supersonic frozen eels [05:38] TAKE THAT LOGIC! [05:38] damn [05:40] dive, slax based actually [05:40] c'mon freebsd install.. [05:40] ah right [05:41] yum, freebsd +> [05:42] hi all :) [05:42] (can anyone give me the ip of lwn.net ?) [05:42] Server: 203.161.127.1 [05:42] Address: 203.161.127.1#53 [05:42] Non-authoritative answer: [05:42] Channel flood from spook -- kicking [05:42] Name: lwn.net [05:42] Address: 72.51.34.34 [05:42] spook kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [05:43] spook (n=spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:43] spook, thanks :p [05:43] forgot how much nslookup spurts [05:44] wakeup (n=wakeup@koln-4db425c0.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [05:44] hiho :) [05:45] opendns gave it back to me (I usually use opendns but dhcpd changed my resolv.conf last week) [05:45] hi wakeup [05:45] I have a vsftpd for local users running (ftps), its works fine locally but not over the inet. [05:46] my router forwards ports 20 and 21 to the right ip, and I tried turning off the servers firewall [05:47] when testing it over inet, logging in seems to work but it seems to idle at "Making data connection" [05:47] I am using lftp as a client [05:47] any ideas? [05:47] press return less [05:47] spook: besides [05:47] spook: that [05:47] ;) [05:48] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:48] jean-1uc (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:48] Action: spook shoots wakeup with an eel cannon [05:49] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc3-asht4-0-0-cust589.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [05:49] you'll get no help from me :) [05:49] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:51] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-687f9b727d73198f) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:53] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:54] QWonder (n=QW@c-71-203-15-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:57] neuro_sys (n=asd@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) joined ##slackware. [05:59] lunch time [05:59] just ate my breakfast :p [05:59] that means its kebab time! [06:00] eh, lazy students [06:00] holidays *whistles* [06:00] bah [06:00] anyway [06:00] Action: slackytude goes to fetch some grub [06:01] Action: Camarade_Tux hasn't taken a shower in 4 days... [06:01] wakeup, I basically can't connect to myself, I can't have a connection which both starts and ends at my ip, my router is a crappy ISP one but the idea is there [06:02] I guess it's NAT support is really bad (well I know it's bad, it's probably even worse than anything I could imagine) [06:02] s/'s/s/ [06:07] what are you saying? :> [06:07] I can ssh/http over the inet onto my server [06:07] as well as with local connections [06:08] my router is crap too, but it seems to do the job until now [06:09] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:10] Anakin (n=Anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [06:11] frullet (n=hooch@124-171-59-161.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:12] asdasd (n=asd@81.214.224.223) joined ##slackware. [06:12] Soul_keeper: if you there thank you..ill try that [06:12] neuro_sys (n=asd@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:12] Nick change: asdasd -> neuro_sys [06:15] Camarade_Tux, get a shower, dude :D [06:16] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [06:16] Camarade_Tux, what does your gf say to that? [06:16] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [06:16] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [06:18] slackytude, I'm at my parents, 500km away from where I usually live now ;) [06:18] any ideas why my "end" key prints a ~ in the terminal? [06:18] in lebanon? [06:18] Action: slackytude calculates distance [06:18] slackytude, no, just Paris, in Lebanon that would be closer to 4000km ;) [06:18] right [06:20] wakeup, which console? [06:21] dive: rxvt-unicode [06:21] but I think its not a rxvt problem, since I use the shell over ssh [06:21] ah [06:22] I was going to suggest putting something in .inputrc but I doubt it would work for ssh [06:22] "\e[8~":end-of-line [06:23] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [06:23] tntslack (n=will@adsl54-246.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:23] ? [06:23] can try it though [06:24] put that line in your ~/.inputrc and log out/in [06:24] okay [06:25] asdasd (n=asd@81.214.224.223) joined ##slackware. [06:25] it does affect the shell (end key now does nothing) [06:25] but it does not fix the problem :> [06:26] hmm [06:26] end-of-line should be the right command... [06:26] what do you get if you run 'cat' and press End? [06:26] oh wait [06:27] got it to work [06:27] does home work? [06:28] not yet, what would be the code for it? [06:28] "\e[1~": beginning-of-line says my inputrc [06:28] "\e[7~":beginning-of-line [06:28] it's 7 for rxvt [06:28] confusing [06:29] Buggaboo (n=bug@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) left irc: "A wank a day, keeps the frustrations away" [06:29] why these "wrong" values? [06:29] 1 is linux console [06:29] different terms [06:29] to find the correct keycode run 'cat' and press the key [06:29] good tip, thanks [06:29] it will say something like ^[[F [06:30] or ^[[8 [06:30] and you swap the ^[ for \e [06:30] or something like that [06:30] :-) [06:31] neuro_sys (n=asd@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:33] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.12) joined ##slackware. [06:34] I just did pkg_add xorg and it's downloading the entire interweb ... 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[06:45] yeah [06:45] i just want to make sure the cpu throttling is working [06:45] They used to be /var/log/acpid but now I think they are in messages if at all [06:46] cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq [06:47] cuba (n=cuba@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) joined ##slackware. [06:47] or better still "tail -F /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq" [06:48] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-192218.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:48] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-192218.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:49] hmm [06:49] in cpu0 [06:49] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-192218.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [06:49] i only have cache and topology [06:49] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-192218.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:49] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-192218.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [06:50] did you modprobe acpi_cpufreq? [06:50] anyone uses the radeon driver? [06:50] oh [06:50] no [06:50] i'm kinda new to this [06:50] when I hibernate/suspend it crashes the pc [06:51] hi, "alt+tab" for switching windows doesn't work on my slackware 12.2 with kde, any idea please ? [06:51] paissad_ (n=paissad@83.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [06:51] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.19.112) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:52] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [06:54] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-192218.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:54] cuba: did you configure the keyboard sortcuts so that alt+tab should cycle through windows? [06:54] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-192218.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [06:54] cuba: if so, do other combinations you confgured, work? [06:55] cuba: if you choose another key combination, doies that work? [06:55] Kaapa, xorg radeon driver? I use that and have no problems with suspend/hibernation [06:55] dive: yes [06:55] chattr, mmnt, I'm new to kde, can't find the shortcut settings [06:55] Kaapa, does it work outside of X? [06:56] ATI Technologies Inc M76 [Radeon Mobility HD 2600 Series] [06:56] the hibernation? I assume so [06:56] with the ati drivers it works [06:56] what method do you use for hibernation? [06:56] 'echo disk > /sys/power/state' [06:57] in a script run from fn keys [06:57] yeah, sort'a the same here [06:57] 'echo mem' for suspend [06:57] cuba: fire up kcontrol ("control center") and look there for keyboard shortcut configuration [06:57] dive: what is the model? [06:57] Thinkpad T42 [06:57] the videocard [06:58] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] [06:58] could be an issue with my model [06:58] maybe [06:58] well, I guess I'll have to use their drivers [06:59] chattr, yes, sorry, it is alt shift tab, and the next thing is, that in window behavior settings, I can't pick the option for "show window list while switching between windows" [06:59] it works ok, apart from random X crashes, which is very annoying [06:59] Kaapa, I get that too with composite on [06:59] works fine without [06:59] chattr, it is grey, so I can't allow this option [06:59] what's the frequency of the crashes? [06:59] chattr, you know what I mean [06:59] hmm randomlay several times a day [07:00] usually when I press a button or type womething [07:00] something* [07:00] It's not that much here [07:00] usually is when a new windows is drawn on screen [07:00] but I don't use X much anymore so I just turn composite off in xfce [07:00] hmm [07:00] dive: isn't that a xorg.conf option? [07:01] it's there too [07:01] asd (n=asd@81.214.224.223) joined ##slackware. [07:01] i don't think tail -F is going to work for this [07:01] but xfce settings has it [07:01] either that or this isn't configured properly [07:01] QWonder, what does cat tell you? [07:01] paissad (n=paissad@96.55.198-77.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:01] cat tells me the frequency [07:01] so does tail [07:01] cuba: sorry, no idea why that would be - but there sure is an awful lot of options you can configure - you have to try your way through.. [07:01] right that's it [07:02] cat just leaves because it hit the end of the file [07:02] chattr, ok, thank you [07:02] tail sits there like it's waiting for more input but nothing else ever appears on the screen [07:02] yeah that's why you have to run it a few times underload [07:02] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-70-61-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [07:04] QWonder, try this then: watch -n 1 "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq" [07:05] then fire up firefox or something [07:05] hey does anyone know any tool that is able to generate an EER diagram over an MySQL database using MyISAM and also map out references? [07:05] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) joined ##slackware. [07:06] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.0.195) joined ##slackware. [07:06] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-192218.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:07] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [07:08] hmm [07:08] it's still not working [07:08] but i need to go to sleep [07:08] thanks for the help [07:08] np [07:08] dusty_ (n=dusty@88-105-85-107.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:08] I would 'lsmod | grep freq' and see which modules are loaded [07:09] you may have set the right freq mode [07:09] for the kernel [07:09] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-192218.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [07:09] neuro_sys (n=asd@81.214.224.223) joined ##slackware. [07:10] QWonder, 'echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor' [07:12] tewmten: have you asked the folks at #mysql? [07:12] chattr: not yet [07:13] spook: can i borrow your eel-gun for a moment? [07:13] did mc ever fix the smb problem [07:13] ?? [07:14] and how do I go about linking sbm [07:15] asd (n=asd@81.214.224.223) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:15] tewmten, never heard of something like that [07:15] no? [07:15] I know Workbench does it if you use foreign keys [07:16] but that's InnoDB only, MyISAM doesn't support relations [07:16] MySQL workbench? [07:16] yea [07:16] intressting [07:16] so I have this database in MyISAM that uses reference tables [07:16] umbrello can do some fancy stuff with sql code [07:16] because using InnoDB would create too much overhead on the disk I/O [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-13-162.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:17] umbrello.. I'll have a look at that ok [07:17] asdasd (n=asd@81.214.224.223) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:17] you might need to upgrade versions, the sql stuff is still in developtment [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-6-139.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:17] ok [07:17] not sure how good it got by now [07:17] crap.. KDE [07:18] but still, stuff like you talk about I only know for oracle [07:18] ok [07:18] as I said, if you use InnoDB and foreign keys, MySQL Workbench will draw an EER diagram and mapping out the relations [07:19] but since this database use MyISAM and reference tables it would be nice if there is some way of generating a map over that [07:19] the table and column names have a good structure over it so maybe I could just script something.. [07:20] yeah maybe something in graphviz [07:20] I have to try that =) [07:20] tomten [07:20] neuro_sys (n=asd@81.214.224.223) left irc: "Leaving" [07:20] snorks_ [07:20] ? [07:20] ? [07:21] :O [07:22] Im gonna try out workbench [07:23] although we only have innoDb too [07:23] yeah its a nice tool, but it ran very flaky on my ubuntu desktop pc at the office [07:23] on windows its fine [07:23] last time I tried it, it was kinda crappy [07:23] hehe [07:23] well it supports both innodb and myisam [07:24] thats not a problem if you only use innodb :) [07:24] my issue is of another nature [07:24] well, umbrello just parses sql tool and gives you some diagramms for it [07:24] oh well, fuck it.. Imma go play with my new servers [07:24] ok [07:24] s/tool/too [07:24] got two poweredge 2950 to use for vmware esxi ;) [07:24] nice ^-^ [07:25] sweet systems, 2x intel xeon 2.5GHz quad-core, 12x 146GB SCSI 15000rpm disks and 16GB ram ;) [07:25] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-192218.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:25] gm152 (n=gm@d121-132-40.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:25] I will surely need those 8 cpu cores to.. uh.. run SETI@Home [07:25] :p [07:26] hehe [07:26] overkill [07:26] some people call it overkill, i call it jealousy [07:26] ;D [07:26] bah [07:27] yeah these are nice systems [07:27] now they're my babies =) [07:29] well, we have a dell server [07:29] Action: slackytude hides [07:29] we have alot [07:30] trying to phase out all the non-dell hardware [07:32] how do I go about linking sbm trough mc [07:32] Action: tewmten shrugs [07:32] we have a single dell [07:32] what's sbm? what's mc? [07:37] I'm guessing mc=midnight commander, and sbm=/s/sbm/smb? [07:38] and google sais it knows. [07:38] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [07:39] yeah midbight commander [07:39] midnight* [07:39] or MC(1) maybe [07:39] okibisan (i=1000@24-158-197-146.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [07:39] arny` (n=arny@79.119.156.173) joined ##slackware. [07:41] midbight...catchy =D [07:42] yeah I want to know how I can link the smb protocol type connection from midnight commander so I can view the folders in one of the tabs [07:43] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:43] man mc [07:44] get fusesmb and launch it through mc [07:44] its dirty but it works [07:44] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4383377.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:44] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4383377.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:45] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [07:46] does ftps need certain ports plain ftp does not? [07:47] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc3-asht4-0-0-cust589.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:48] In order to maintain compatibility with existing non-TLS/SSL aware FTP clients, implicit FTPS was expected to listen on the IANA Well Known Port 990/TCP for the FTPS control channel and 989/TCP for the FTPS data channel. This allowed administrators to retain legacy compatible services on the original 21/TCP FTP control channel. [07:49] thank you Karlitoo, sry for not searching myself [07:49] google and wiki 2 of comp best firends [07:49] it's ok [07:49] Action: wakeup is a bad lazy guy [07:50] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:51] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [07:52] fglrx: Unknown symbol pci_disable_msi <- anyone familiar with this? [07:53] ah, kernel option that I need to change [07:53] screw it, I'm not compiling kernels over this [07:56] gm152 (n=gm@d121-132-40.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:59] kama (n=kama@host91-36-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:59] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [08:02] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-bd08fd991830bf27) joined ##slackware. [08:03] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-bd08fd991830bf27) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:03] kama (n=kama@host91-36-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:04] nex (n=nex@151.53.52.1) joined ##slackware. [08:04] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-58da1b81be2b922e) joined ##slackware. [08:04] xkaliber (n=dexter@gateway.geodesic.com) left irc: "Leaving" [08:11] nex (n=nex@151.53.52.1) left irc: "Leaving" [08:15] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "#E>6C" [08:20] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4383377.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:21] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4383377.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:23] could it be possible that my ISP blocks 989 and 990? [08:23] or does http://www.canyouseeme.org/ just not detect ftps? [08:23] because I get "Connection refused"'s when trying those ports there [08:24] firewall is off, vsftpd running [08:26] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@20150028088.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:26] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:29] cuba (n=cuba@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) left irc: "Leaving" [08:29] sidmario_ (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:29] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn182.91-127-245.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [08:32] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:32] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:32] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:32] sidmario_ (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Connection reset by peer [08:33] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.112) joined ##slackware. [08:34] Good `date +%r` [08:35] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) left irc: "Quitte" [08:36] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.67.229) joined ##slackware. [08:37] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:39] hmm. what is the KDE app to get info about a system such as display adapters and monitor native resolutions? [08:39] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:40] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "leaving" [08:40] kinfocenter? [08:41] ahh yes, thanks [08:41] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.67.229) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:41] Nick change: Strykar_ -> Strykar [08:42] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@20150026234.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:44] wakeup: try from another computer on your local network? [08:45] And/or let someone here try the ports. [08:45] zaemis (n=tboroncz@64.128.173.30) joined ##slackware. [08:46] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl84-48.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:49] Zosma: hmm I kind of teared ftps stuff down now, and decided to use sftp for that stuff [08:50] but I guess my ISP blocked those ports since it worked locally [08:50] with implications [08:50] habtool (n=habtool@86-41-70-61-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [08:50] (worked with lftp only without preceding ftps://) [08:50] spiral_architect (n=spiral_a@24.225.23.245) joined ##slackware. [08:52] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:55] wakeup: I would find it highly questionable if they block *those* ports. [08:55] I mean port 25 is blocked almost always for ISPs here (Netherlands) but they leave the others alone. [08:56] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [08:56] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) joined ##slackware. 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[09:07] zaemis, the most important thing is whether you're on a journalled fs [09:07] if you are, shred is not guaranteed, *at all* [09:08] kama (n=kama@host117-112-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:08] (have a look at the man page) [09:08] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.201.230) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:09] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:09] right, I understand that, and I've read the man pages... but they don't say anything expressly about my question-- it's all warnings about journaled fs. But for this, let's assume a non-journaled FS such as ext2. [09:09] Srbo (i=1000@p4FE90884.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:11] i don't know about shred, but if you want something that i know *is* dod-compliant (as well as compliant with the UK, and the EU's own specs, and then some) [09:11] DBAN works. [09:11] I could overwrite something with 0s 25 times, and that wouldn't be DoD compliant from what I understand... It has to be a specific pattern of bits or something on each write. [09:11] Thanks AzalynX. I'll check into it. Is it free (freedom and beer?) [09:12] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [09:12] Yeah, it is. [09:12] it's actually a boot cd. you put it in a machine with a bunch of drives you want wiped. [09:12] DBAN ftw [09:12] and it boots up and wipes'em all [09:13] kama (n=kama@host117-112-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:13] Ah. [09:13] Youc an also remove the CD and just leave DBAN running .. no need to keep the CD in the drive once its up and running :) [09:13] That may not be what I need, then. It's not disk whiping, just file deletion, I'm after. [09:13] kama (n=kama@host117-112-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:13] as far as i know, there is no prompt (haven't tried it, just read about it) [09:13] so you have to be careful what machine you put the disc in.. hehe [09:13] When I was in Banking, we would just use an old degausser and a claw hammer. [09:14] i'm looking to install local fonts into the system, which folder are they stored? [09:14] zaemis: dban is funded by a group called "geep", they're into electronics-recycling advocacy. [09:15] even though throwing the drives away may be the cheapest option, they believe in recycling. [09:16] or destroying rather, not throwing away. [09:16] well, thanks AzalynX and Camarade_Tux... off I go to do more research. :) [09:18] no problem. [09:20] the problem with the whole one-file idea is that if this file had been copied in the past, or moved.. or even if the drive was defragmented, or some other situation where the file data would move from one area of the disk to another.. which of course includes the swap partition or swapfile.. [09:20] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:21] n0on3 (n=n0on3@81-208-83-247.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [09:21] that one-file utility will only destroy the current copy of it.. if the file was moved from place to place, it has no way of knowing where the file 'used to be' [09:21] nex (n=nex@151.53.52.1) joined ##slackware. [09:22] and in terms of swap, there's no way to be certain at all apart from just nuking the whole swap partition. (i've recently thought about just not using swap at all, and just making sure i have an abundant amount of memory, like 8 or 16 GB) [09:23] nex (n=nex@151.53.52.1) left irc: Client Quit [09:23] hence why most tools rely on full disk wiping. single-file wiping is sort of like a false sense of security, at least that's my understanding. [09:25] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [09:29] You could do encrypted swap [09:30] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:31] Hey straterra, which dell monitors do you have? [09:31] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.21.217) joined ##slackware. [09:32] baah encrypted swap, you're all a bunch of pedos... [09:32] uh...idk [09:32] when you press the menu button it will tell you. [09:33] Uhm..It's not my monitor [09:33] It's someone here at work [09:34] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:34] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:35] oh. [09:35] I'm using a Dell 24" with no USB [09:36] well idk why my usb hubs on mine (2005fpw) wont work. [09:37] I think I have the same as straterra - no usb either [09:37] No usb as in, the usb ports don't work or as in, it doesn't have usb ports on them at all. [09:37] ? [09:37] Doesn't have USB at all.. [09:37] anyone care to comment on if (for an SATA150 controller) an upgrade from a 5400 rpm to 7200 rpm or even solid state drive will have much impact on speed, and if it's worth the money (budget: $100)? [09:37] doesn't have them [09:38] You aren't going to find a good solid state for $100 [09:38] And depending on your workload..7200RPM drive will be faster [09:38] It will also generate more heat and maybe more power [09:38] generate more power? :P [09:39] Use more power [09:39] kama (n=kama@host117-112-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:39] i know i just felt like messing with you [09:39] i wish i had known about sata150's issues before buying this laptop. granted, it's fine, it's just not fast [09:39] What issues? [09:40] it's as if i upgraded everything (compared to my last laptop) except the hard drive [09:40] kama (n=kama@host117-112-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:40] and ssd doesn't give you much space [09:41] TwinReverb: that has nothing to do with SATA 150 [09:41] Nothing to do with the interface or link speed..you have a slow hard drive [09:41] 5400RPM is used for cost, heat, and power reasons [09:41] there's no NCQ [09:42] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-219-108-157.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:42] So? [09:42] so the one major enhancement that was anticipated with SATA isn't really realized [09:42] Do you know what NCQ does? [09:42] native command queueing [09:42] Ok...do you know what it does? [09:43] i.e. cache incoming commands and a processor tries to schedule the incoming commands to take advantage of geometry and process them all in an efficient way [09:43] Yes..which isn't always a good thing [09:43] i mean, am i right, or did wiki poison my brain? [09:43] It depends on workload. Also, you need chipset and drive support [09:43] That's something that was added in with SATA II [09:43] 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev 02) [09:43] yeah i know, it was added with sata300 [09:44] You aren't going to notice NCQ under light/normal workstation load [09:44] will i notice 7200 rpm versus 5400 under light / normal workstation load? [09:44] Yes [09:46] kama (n=kama@host117-112-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:47] will the difference be worth $100 ? [09:48] I don't know what $100 means to you [09:48] I'd spend $100 to upgrade the capacity and speed of a laptop drive, if I used it a lot [09:48] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [09:48] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:50] it's not capacity. i'd actually lose capacity (250GB -> 160GB) [09:50] (well, for $100) [09:50] I'd keep the same capacity then [09:50] But..again..thats me [09:50] Also, depending on the laptop you may be voiding your warranty [09:51] /dev/sda3 222G 81G 142G 37% /home [09:51] Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on [09:51] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:51] paissad_ (n=paissad@83.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:51] what's the name of the default file format for executables on linux already ? [09:51] dive (n=diverse@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Looks around for terminal..." [09:51] it's a Sony Viao. they have hard drive upgrade instructions right on their website [09:52] nvm, found it : ELF [09:52] dive (n=diverse@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:52] lol :P [09:52] /bin/rm: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [09:53] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [09:53] dive (n=diverse@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [09:54] dive (n=diverse@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:56] cipher_ (n=cipher@41.252.52.159) left irc: "Leaving" [09:57] $100 usd for a 160gig 7200rpm 2.5" hdd sounds a little expensive [09:57] TwinReverb, file hehe :) [09:57] that's not too bad [09:57] i think ive seen them for 320gig at $100 [09:57] that's cheap for a laptop hard drive [09:57] eh [09:57] I've heard bad things about 320's.. might as well do 500 [09:57] 74¬ for a 1TB hard-drive, 3,5" though [09:57] well i prefer the nice brands [09:58] i have a seagate fetish [09:58] seagate's do have a good warrannty [09:58] me.. I'll get whitelabeld rives [09:58] hehe [09:58] Action: Camarade_Tux imagines TwinReverb riding his seagate hard drive in the night... [09:58] TwinReverb: no more slamd64? [09:58] ... Nice brands and seagates don't go together. :P [09:58] well yeah, with an external hard drive, data loss due to hard drive crash is less of a problem [09:59] Not really [09:59] although with a laptop, i'd have to boot to USB and then mount USB hard drive etc or whatever [09:59] Any hard drive can die at any given time [09:59] Internal or external [09:59] thrice`, no, sorry, not right now. kmymoney and bibletime aren't ready for 64 bit [09:59] bibletime is barely ready for 32bit with slackware 12.2's native kde lol :( [09:59] eh [09:59] I'm talking about their recent firmware issue that they had that was bricking HD's. [09:59] You..do know you can run 32-bit apps in Slamd64 [09:59] I'm pretty sure I got kmymoney running on slamd64 many moons ago [09:59] i know [10:00] lol [10:00] it's the projects' faults, not slamd64's [10:00] i'll just wait a little while, that's all [10:00] you can run almost any 32-bit package out of the box, btw [10:00] So..why not just run it in 32-bit under Slamd64? [10:00] laptop hard drives are usually stronger than desktop ones (not enterprise ones !), they are more resiliant to parking/deparking heads [10:00] i tried that, tried to compile it, it wouldn't compile either way [10:00] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:00] O.o [10:00] i barely have time to study for testing for rank, you think i have time to play with an OS? :( [10:01] i'd LOVE to have the time but i don't [10:01] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-160-66.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [10:01] i'm to the point where i'm considering a hard drive improvement if it saves me time [10:01] you've wasted at LEAST 30 minutes on here [10:01] it's possible to enable or use an screensaver while not being in a Destop enviroment? [10:01] i work full time, will be going to 12 hour shifts, now i lead the local church rock band, manage my website, etc [10:01] dissociative: yep, xscreensaver is good [10:01] Action: TwinReverb stabs thrice` with a dual layer dvd [10:02] kilasmurf (n=kilasmur@c-69-142-70-29.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:03] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-219-108-157.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [10:03] much less, no offense, but slamd64 don't have the advantages of SBo and rworkman/alienbob's package repositories. however, as soon as i have time, i will help out with that too. [10:04] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:04] i'm not dissing slamd64, i'm only saying i'm too busy [10:04] as it is, now i'm sacrificing sleep time to explain myself lol [10:05] thanks for the wiki alienBOB, very helpful for wpa [10:07] kama (n=kama@host117-112-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:08] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@89-96-108-186.ip12.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [10:08] i suppose; but how many times do you need to install the same application? [10:09] eh [10:09] TwinReverb: it takes me all of 5 minutes (if that) to grab a SBo script.. convert to slamd64... run.. and install [10:09] Its not like cross-compiling a tool chain... [10:11] and there's work on the SBo-style front :p [10:11] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:11] yep [10:12] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [10:13] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) left irc: [10:14] mbhayes, ok, do me a favor and go compile xfce-goodies, openoffice, wicd, kmymoney, bibletime, etc, and post the packages for me. sorry, but i don't have the time to do this myself, or else i'd be running slamd64 [10:14] i must go to bed now. good night. i love you guys (in a manly, non-gay way) [10:14] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [10:14] o.O [10:16] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:16] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [10:17] sorry to log back in, but i remembered something [10:17] stunix (i=stunix@linux2.penguins.no) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:17] dive (n=diverse@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:17] several things compiled properly (i.e. no slackbuild script) but then barfed when ran. mainly xfce-goodies. sorry, i'll have to wait for now [10:17] g'night [10:17] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Client Quit [10:17] o.O [10:20] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:22] fail [10:25] whatever [10:25] if he doesn't have the time now.. what makes him think he could be a full-time contributor? [10:27] he thinks that because he has a job, it takes all of his time up [10:27] everyone has a full time job o.O [10:27] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:28] don't get me wrong.. I haven't contributed any builds.. yet [10:28] I have in the past.. like firefox when fred was busy.. figured out the build order etc. [10:28] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [10:29] bsdx (n=bsd@210.211.128.179) joined ##slackware. [10:34] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [10:37] larsmw (n=lars@90.184.232.222) joined ##slackware. [10:38] anyone using k3b 1.0.5 on kde 4.2 and _is_ working with the compat libs? [10:39] alienBOB, do you use k3b 1.0.5 on x86_64? [10:40] is slackware on amd64 now? [10:41] the first Q was for slackware x86 :) [10:41] alienBOB is using Slamd64 AFAIK [10:41] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.0.195) left irc: "Leaving" [10:41] hm [10:42] i wonder if pat will ever make an official 64bit release.. eventually it'll be the dominant arch, so you'd think so.. [10:42] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [10:43] rpb2i (i=rpb2i@ranger1.cs.mtsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:43] Nick change: rpb2i -> Cryp71c [10:46] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:46] AzalynX, maybe he drop the x86 and will support only the x86_64 :D [10:47] i don't know, that seems unlikely.. slackware has been committed to running both on old and new hardware. [10:48] it's a tough situation. [10:48] if only there was a way to run 32-bit apps on 64-bit too. [10:48] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:48] :) [10:48] thrice`: <3 [10:48] x86 hardare will be around for a long time. Not everyone upgrades hardware often [10:48] thrice`: you forgot your smiley on that one [10:48] alisonken1home1: shh [10:48] alisonken1home1: SILENCE!! I KILL YOU! [10:49] i'm not sure what thrice is responding to. :| [10:49] dive (n=diverse@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:49] neither are we [10:49] but anyways, i think the transition might happen faster than we'd like to think. [10:49] we just learn to roll with it [10:51] it's been slow mostly because of the whole issues that windows has been having with 64bit drivers and so on.. vista uptake in general was pretty slow. [10:51] for the most part, the transition has already started, it's just a matter of how fast the back-room stuff get's updated [10:51] "Just wait - version 7 is coming _real soon now_ [10:51] " [10:51] although there were some statistics recently that 20% of vista users are on 64bit, or something.. so it has started.. [10:52] Action: fred has 64-bit vista installed on his desktop [10:52] had no real problems [10:52] I have 64-bit vista on my gaming rig [10:53] in the end, all it will take is for OEM's to commit to it as a default, as opposed to an "option" that the buyer can pick. when that happens it will be almost an overnight transition. [10:53] arny`: I must say the last time I burned a CD or DVD was a _very_ long time ago.... [10:53] and most software vendors can just keep shipping 32bit installers that autodetect the platform, and install either 64bit or 32bit binaries based on what they detect. [10:54] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [10:55] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:57] alienBOB, I'm asking because maybe on Slackware 12.2 can be the same probleme like here on BW64: http://www.bluewhite64.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?2970 [10:57] problem* [10:58] Karlitoo (n=Karlitoo@213.137.110.67) left irc: "Leaving" [10:59] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:59] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:59] arny`: I can try and replay that issue on slackware-current, because I do have KDE 4.2 plus the kde3-compat, and k3b 1.0.5 there [11:00] alienBOB, OK, thanks [11:02] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [11:03] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-58da1b81be2b922e) left irc: [11:03] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:03] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [11:03] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:05] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-7-43.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:05] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:05] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-83-214.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:07] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:08] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "leaving" [11:09] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:10] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-2b76835b84deca36) joined ##slackware. [11:11] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-160-66.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:13] I'm going to reformat my drive, what do you usually backup beside your ~ ? 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[11:17] if you have mysql stuff: /var/lib/mysql is another good one to backup [11:17] but also using mysqldump --all-databases and dumping their structure + data is a good thing as well [11:18] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:18] Man-erg (n=meck@85-18-136-67.fastres.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:18] if you backup /etc, just make sure you _don't_ restore it to /etc on the new machine :) when backing up, use "tar -czvf ./etc" (note leading dot) so you can restore it to your home/temp directory for reveiw [11:21] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [11:23] personally, I keep /home on separate partition/drive, so backup of home for me is a relative non-issue [11:27] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) joined ##slackware. [11:27] Hello! [11:27] Please help! I'm using FLTK2 UI libraries but vim does no highlighting. [11:28] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:28] backup ~ ? it should have its own partition, of course :> [11:29] thrice`, usually but not this time sadly/badly, it will have its own after formatting of course ;) [11:30] to others, thanks, gonna check [11:31] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-203-192.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [11:35] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.12) left irc: [11:36] wahcordian|Work (n=wahcordi@97-119-176-223.albq.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:37] found another thing to backup : /usr/src/linux, besides being a git repository it also has my kernel .config [11:37] josemanuel (n=josemanu@37.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [11:38] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [11:38] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [11:39] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:39] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.46) joined ##slackware. [11:40] I need a little advice: is there a difference between packages from linuxpackages.net, and slacky.eu? I need linux-pam (for vmware). which ones would you trust more? [11:41] hum, what's happening here? [11:41] qneo: You don't need linux-pam. [11:41] on a regular day, qneo would be dead by now [11:41] wow, what did I said? :) [11:42] damn, there is a really cool bug in telnetd in freebsd [11:42] qneo: uhm..neither are good sources [11:42] you said "linuxpackages.net", a slight variation from "suicide" [11:42] but I can't find it anywhere else.. [11:42] qneo: VMWare can be installed without installing pam. You just have to trick it by making the directory it's looking for. [11:43] /etc/pam.d, if I remember correctly. [11:43] jkwood: unless its vmware 2.0 [11:43] I highly recommend VirtualBox over VMWare, though. [11:43] and if that's the case. you have to use pam [11:44] mbhayes: Ah, that would be a problem. [11:44] mbhayes: yes, it's vmware player 2.5.1 [11:44] Why would anyone use player when server is free? [11:44] jkwood: and.. server 2 needs pam [11:44] Ah..already been said [11:45] straterra: Haven't tried Server 2, it failed epically a bunch so I gave up. [11:45] straterra: I don't like vmware server :( web-interface, slow, need to use fx... [11:45] slow, need to use fx? [11:45] what does that mean? [11:47] It was slow on my box, fx - firefox [11:47] jkwood: Getting vmware server 2 working with pam is trivial [11:47] you dont have to use firefox [11:47] its very easy once you realize what vmware 2.0 is looking for in /etc/pam.d [11:47] straterra: what else? [11:47] IE? [11:47] qneo: as I said to jkwood getting pam working is trivial [11:49] iirc, player is just a stripped down workstation [11:49] Ah. [11:49] straterra: IE in slackware? :) [11:50] Yes [11:51] so I'll rather stay with firefox :) [11:51] you can even have IE7 since recently :p [11:51] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:51] i'm guessing he means that he's running a slackware guest too [11:51] unfortunately, I can't use vbox (that was first choice) I had problem with network, and I have vmdx that I have to use. [11:51] Srbo (i=1000@p4FE90884.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:52] I'm running slackware 12.2, and I want to install vmware-player, to run XP (for my work). [11:53] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [11:56] kilasmurf (n=kilasmur@c-69-142-70-29.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:58] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:58] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [12:02] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:04] rpb2i (i=rpb2i@ranger1.cs.mtsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:05] rpb2i (i=rpb2i@ranger1.cs.mtsu.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:06] oh, it's working :) I created /etc/pam.d, and installed. wheeee, thank you very much guys. :) I can remove vista (which I used as a host) from my hdd. :) [12:06] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:07] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [12:07] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@20150028088.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [12:07] qneo: BTW, VirtualBox has improved the networking and added support for VMDK in the past couple of revisions. Just so you know. [12:08] alisonken1 (n=alisonke@38.99.247.89) joined ##slackware. [12:08] qneo, i'd be careful with that, if it really needs pam libraries, vmware will crash due to an unresolved symbol because slackware doesnt have pam [12:08] Zordrak: ping [12:09] jkwood: I'll give it a try again. I liked it. but as I was trying to install xp in work (global desktop from our facory, network install..) I can't get it working - so I wasn't even able to install xp. [12:10] Ah. Well, I wish you good luck with it. They just released a fresh one today. [12:12] i'm about to die [12:13] nachox: Might want to see someone about that. :P [12:13] nachox: I'll test it, and well see.. thanks, I'll make backups often :) but I found howto install pam on slackware with scr2pkg. [12:13] well/will [12:13] seriously, i cannot believe there are so many useless administrators [12:13] Cryp71c (i=rpb2i@ranger1.cs.mtsu.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:14] Action: agentc0reWORK thinks he missed something [12:14] qneo, that is even more scary, you dont do that to slackware, specially if you want to use the official patches, and you want to use them [12:14] during the past year, i've seen more than 10 unices that set umask to 000 [12:16] oh, thanks to notice me. till now I used only slackbuilds, so I didn't know.. [12:17] agentc0reWORK: pong TTL=300000ms [12:18] Zordrak: .. give me one sec. [12:18] well more than that.. [12:18] you,ve alreadf had several :) [12:18] slackbuilds are ok, i trust those guys, i do not trust tutorials to make slackware pam aware [12:19] specially because slackware will overwrite any pam aware /sbin/passwd if the package that contains /sbin/passwd needs updating [12:20] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4383377.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:20] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [12:20] wahcordian|Work (n=wahcordi@97-119-176-223.albq.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:20] uSlacker (n=gmartin@pool-71-185-211-243.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:21] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4383377.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:21] agentc0reWORK: tempus fugit [12:22] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:23] giuppy (n=giuppy@host6-165-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:24] cuba (n=cuba@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) joined ##slackware. [12:24] I use only pkgtool and slackpkg. so if I'll want to know about any other, I'll rather ask here in the future. :) [12:24] giuppy (n=giuppy@host31-165-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:25] wahcordian|Work (n=wahcordi@97-119-176-223.albq.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] net [12:25] oops [12:26] Action: Zordrak pokes agentc0reWORK in the eye [12:26] ouCH! [12:26] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-55-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:26] good god, when the auto-mounting service mount some media, konqueror says: system:/media/hda ...but when I check it in filesystem there is nothing mounted there [12:27] Hey, just wanted to say thanks for making external auth for RT. I realized last week you did it. I do have some q's for you about it though. [12:27] cuba: fail [12:27] exceion (n=ryan@struct.sockaddr.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:27] agentc0reWORK: No probs :D [12:27] Zordrak, no, it's working, but obviously it's mounted by some weird way [12:28] agentc0reWORK: just catch me in here (or preferably #rt on irc.perl.org) between 9am and 5pm GMT [12:28] cuba: no.. *you* fail [12:28] cuba: tata [12:28] How do you get it to update the database with ldap? Currently, if they never email the account is not created. It's not too big of an issue, just curious though if there is away to do it efficiently. [12:28] agentc0reWORK: im am around other times but at my desk most likely then [12:29] I am actually in RT actually. [12:29] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [12:29] cuba (n=cuba@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) left irc: "Leaving" [12:30] Man-erg (n=meck@85-18-136-67.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [12:30] rpb2i (i=rpb2i@ranger1.cs.mtsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:30] Nick change: rpb2i -> Cryp71c [12:35] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:35] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [12:36] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "leaving" [12:36] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:38] wahcordian|Work, would you mind using a shorter nick? it's only a request, my xchat window is small and nicks take a big part of it [12:38] wahcordian|Work (n=wahcordi@97-119-176-223.albq.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:39] nachox: you scared him away [12:39] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Operation timed out [12:39] must have been something you said [12:39] hehe [12:40] nachox, I hate that in xchat [12:40] yep [12:42] Action: Camarade_Tux thinks wahcordian|Work will come back as wahcordian|Not-Work :p [12:42] wahcordian|unemployed would be worse [12:43] irsii > xchat [12:43] irssi* [12:43] XD [12:43] indeed [12:43] irssi + screen/tmux + ssh [12:43] =ftw [12:44] tmux? wassat? [12:44] terminal multiplexer [12:44] same as screen basically [12:44] similar to screen [12:44] with a BSD license :D [12:44] screen operates one session, one window [12:44] ah - better or worse than screen? [12:44] tmux operates one session, multiple windows [12:45] dive: depends on your needs/preferences [12:45] might have to look at that then [12:45] what do you mean one session multiple windows? [12:45] kamaji: a tmux session can be split into multiple screens [12:45] I think I prefer a gui for irc [12:45] atm I have 5 open [12:45] ctrl+b+X [12:45] X being a number [12:45] atm I have a problem when I ssh into a screen session running finch - the fonts are all screwed up - some utf8 problem which I can't seem to fix [12:45] you mean like screen's split? [12:46] kamaji: no [12:46] kamaji: think of it more like workspaces [12:46] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-55-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:46] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-55-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:46] oh ok [12:46] I think I get you [12:47] like on screen then - I have irssi, finch, and a couple of scripts running in separate screen windows [12:47] that sounds pretty good [12:47] I have one tmux session running, with 5 individual workspaces (terminals) [12:47] dive: have you tried bitlbee instead of finch? [12:47] I think I have looked at it [12:47] is that the irc/server app? [12:47] centericq is decent also [12:47] dive: tried compiling finch with different fonts? [12:48] dive: yeah, bitlbee is an irc 2 IM gateway, kind of pretending to be an irc server (in the way you connect to it) [12:48] foldingstock, maybe but I think it's screen that messes it up [12:48] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@acvw28.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:48] dive: I use to run finch in screen [12:48] dive: what BP{k} said :P [12:48] it was fine unless the window got resized [12:49] then it would get screwy [12:49] foldingstock, it works fine in screen except if I ssh in from another machine to it [12:49] like I am now [12:49] dive: then its not a font issue, its a term problem [12:49] what is your term set to? [12:49] shows ?? instead of graphic chars [12:49] atm I'm using yakuake set to konsole settings which I think is xtrem [12:50] xterm [12:50] try using rxvt or screen instead of xterm [12:50] that'll fix your problem [12:51] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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Have they said any more on the server version? [13:03] mbhayes yes, only for personal machine [13:03] but if y ou want to actually host VMs you'll need vmware server [13:03] jkwood: still in beta [13:04] jkwood: apparently the testing is going well, however, xVM server will be ahypervisor and nothing like VMWare server [13:04] I haven't heard anything about if they plan on releasing a stand alone server version like Vmware Server though. [13:04] btw which version is most stable ? [13:04] the latest is fine [13:04] for slackware [13:04] 2 ? [13:05] wahcordian|Work (n=wahcordi@97-119-176-223.albq.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:05] Yep. [13:05] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/virtualbox-ose/ [13:05] tribeca (n=naitso@host250-29-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:05] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/virtualbox-kernel/ [13:05] ^^ Those make it even easier to build and install. 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[13:26] haven't committed yet, but 6u12 builds very nicely, just needs a doinst.sh that links /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libnptpj2.so (or something) to the java_home [13:26] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-202-215.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [13:27] hmmm... [13:28] anyone have a cisco aironet 1100 AP? lol [13:29] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: "Looks around for terminal..." [13:29] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [13:30] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:31] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-2b76835b84deca36) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:31] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:31] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-da05a645ba54be2f) joined ##slackware. [13:32] Ruckus? [13:32] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [13:33] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [13:33] can't find the stupid ap manager cd for my aironet [13:33] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) joined ##slackware. [13:35] ok, thanks :) [13:35] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:35] Camarade_Tux: I recently moved to slamd64, trying to do as much as I can without 32-bit compatibility. So far, I haven't felt any pain. [13:36] JanuxNET (n=janux@190.190.5.92) joined ##slackware. [13:37] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4383377.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:37] eviljames: is slamd faster than slack on your system? (taking into consideration you probably had >4gb on slack) [13:37] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4383377.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:38] err, < [13:39] spiki (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) joined ##slackware. [13:40] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui pra cliente" [13:40] hmmm.. we should probably test... I tried it but the 10.2 version and noticed more speed in a 512MB system that previously had slackware [13:40] 377 packages dling from gsb yay [13:41] but that slamd version had some errors [13:41] [13:42] yeah, i wouldn't mind trying, but have heard (again and again) that there are no significant gains unless the system has more than 4gb of ram [13:42] antler: slamd64. Not slamd. [13:42] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:42] ...and "slackware linux", not "slack". ok. [13:42] Mortandela (n=Renato@189.61.234.80) joined ##slackware. [13:43] ..and "Slackware GNU/Linux", whatever... [13:43] jkwood: pedant. :D [13:43] :-B [13:43] eviljames: Just got to it before fred could. [13:43] haha [13:43] antler: I don't have a fair comparison, I moved from a P4 w/ 1GB of ram to a Core2 w/ 4GB, simultaneously from slackware to slamd64 [13:43] eviljames: ok [13:43] antler: So in answer to your question, yes, I noticed a *significant* speed up. :) [13:44] yeah, the point for 64bit systems is because they can map better with 4gb memory and beyong [13:44] heheh significant speed up regardless [13:44] 32-bit sucks [13:46] n0on3 (n=n0on3@81-208-83-247.fastres.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:47] n0on3 (n=n0on3@81-208-83-247.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [13:47] JanuxNET (n=janux@190.190.5.92) left ##slackware. [13:47] so, enabling "high mem support (64gb)" (if the system has more than 4gb) ain't so great, huh. [13:47] antler: correct [13:48] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Operation timed out [13:51] bsdx (n=bsd@210.211.128.179) left irc: "Leaving" [13:53] straterra: ok [13:53] nex (n=nex@151.53.52.1) joined ##slackware. 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[14:14] xaviertoor (n=xavierto@189-015-118-063.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:14] number 2 is actually the missing device, but I screwed up [14:14] hang on.. let me get on my box that has the raiddtools installed [14:15] try: mdadm --assemble -scan [14:15] try: mdadm --assemble --scan [14:15] JanuxNET (n=janux@190.190.5.92) joined ##slackware. [14:16] nille_ (i=1000@c-8b61e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [14:16] I think that did not do anything [14:17] ok well you can add it back in.. [14:17] mdadm --manage /dev/md0 --add /dev/whateverthedeviceis [14:17] btw: the unplugged disk is now /dev/sdc which should be /dev/sdb [14:17] ok so do: mdadm --manage /dev/md0 --add /dev/sdc [14:18] may have to remove /dev/sdb first [14:18] there is no /dev/sdb :( [14:18] it doesn't matter.... [14:19] fail that spare with mdadm and re-add it [14:20] already did mdadm --manage /dev/md0 --add /dev/sdc, and its now using sdc, which is a little ugly but ok I guess [14:20] now remove sdb [14:20] how? [14:20] I think I did not get the manpage right [14:20] actually.. [14:20] mdadm --manage --fail /dev/sdb [14:21] mdadm --manage --fail /dev/sdb --remove sdb [14:21] damn it [14:21] mdadm --manage --fail /dev/sdb1 --remove /dev/sdb1 [14:21] there.. christ... [14:21] lol [14:21] :> [14:21] i was jsut about to type that [14:21] mdadm: error opening /dev/sdb1: No such file or directory [14:21] thats what I got [14:21] with my first tries [14:22] try /dev/sdb [14:22] sometimes you specify the partition.. if you put the entire device in the array it would be /dev/sdb [14:22] same thing with sdb [14:22] odd [14:22] " As well as the name of a device file (e.g. /dev/sda1) the words failed and detached can be given to --remove. The first causes all failed device to be removed. The second causes any device which is no longer connected to the system (i.e an 'open' returns ENXIO) to be removed. This will only succeed for devices that are spares or have already been marked as failed." [14:23] ok so: mdadm --remove failed [14:23] or detached [14:23] yeah try that [14:23] was it a mistake to add the device without the partition number? [14:23] wakeup: it's not a mistake but it is a different method [14:23] mdadm: error opening failed: No such file or directory [14:23] same with detached [14:23] weird [14:23] thats what I thought [14:24] what does: mdadm --detail /dev/md0 show you? [14:24] n0on3 (n=n0on3@81-208-83-247.fastres.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:24] mdadm is great until you have to deal with a fail [14:24] lol [14:24] http://rafb.net/p/DZB9Hd43.html [14:24] I think you can add devices as /dev/sdX or what not.. and it assumes partition 1.. but dunno [14:25] wakeup: ok that looks normal [14:25] just have to remove that faulty spare [14:25] not that it will matter [14:25] but it took /dev/sdc for the second disk [14:25] mdadm just shows it to yuou.. it won't use it [14:25] Action: mbhayes shrugs [14:25] its because the major/minor numbers changed is my guess for the device [14:25] yep [14:25] nah I want to do this clean [14:26] well.. then kill the array and rebuild it [14:26] that is clean [14:26] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] from scratch [14:26] hehe [14:26] but yeah it looks fine for me [14:26] rinaldi (n=chatzill@adsl-072-148-191-246.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] my plan is: remove the faulty, remove #2, add it back with sdb1 [14:26] You should see the raid5 I built.. its all funky [14:26] :D [14:26] sda1 sdc1 sdd1 with sdb being the "maiN" OS drive [14:26] :) [14:26] the kernel doesn't care how the device is detected..sdX. when you reboot the system will redetect the disk as sdb and it won't matter [14:27] yep [14:27] the kernel uses meta data to detect raid devices...not sdX [14:27] but missing 1 still bugs me [14:27] ? [14:27] it's not missing [14:27] plus, it is a server, it does not reboot [14:27] /dev/sdc(1) [14:28] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-116-248.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [14:28] [>....................] recovery = 0.5% (5197312/976759936) finish=1742.4min speed=9290K/sec [14:28] no FUCKING way [14:28] ? [14:28] that son of a .... [14:28] ? [14:28] that's normal [14:29] it's resyncing.... [14:29] argh [14:29] fuuuuuuuuuu [14:29] it has to resync the maind rive [14:29] they were totally synced [14:29] bijit (n=benji@201.198.72.142) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:29] rage [14:29] uhh no [14:29] wtf [14:29] 28 hours again [14:29] once you remove a disc... [14:29] and reinsert it into the array... and its not "hot pluggable" [14:29] say hello to a resync :) [14:29] okay I can live with the resync [14:29] wakeup, what software is that ? [14:29] lool [14:30] Bopinhu: ...it's the linux mdadm tool [14:30] what does it do ? [14:30] Bopinhu: raid arrays [14:30] oh ok [14:30] I cant live with mdadm not being able to remove that faulty spare drive [14:30] which does not exist anyways [14:30] wtf [14:31] when I rebuild the array, will the date be lost? [14:31] it'll probably fail on its own after the array is rebuilt [14:31] data* [14:31] wakeup: what type of array was it? [14:31] raid1 [14:31] should be fine [14:31] 2x 1TB discs [14:31] "should"? [14:31] i find it difficult to blame mdadm on this..you pulled a disk on accident and replugged it so the kernel/udev incremented it's device name [14:31] no big deal... [14:32] should be fine [14:32] ok rebuilding is teh way to go I guess [14:32] the resync happens because the disk was pulled and that is expected [14:33] yeah I know, but I dont want a /dev/sda1 and a dev/sdc [14:33] remember...this is a mirror so the other disk is always a full backup [14:33] thats just not cool [14:33] DAMN IT [14:33] listen [14:33] psufunk (i=80775b0d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c3676b6dbba3d2cf) joined ##slackware. [14:33] hi yall [14:34] I dont want to sync 28 hours to have a "funky" raid array [14:34] as soon as the system re-enumerates the disks they will redetect with the normal names. rebooting the system is the easiest way even though you claim "it doesn't reboot" you yanked a disk and caused the rename... [14:34] okay [14:34] so deal with the name change or reboot it [14:34] reboot :) [14:34] nullboy: He should have rebooted it three times. [14:35] how do I "un-raid" probably? [14:36] erm I dont mean probably [14:36] I mean prperly [14:36] properly* [14:37] i can tell ya about funky, wakeup [14:37] do your worst :) [14:38] just look inside my ass hole [14:39] been brewin yeast in there for 4 days [14:39] Action: jkwood prods rworkman [14:39] BentoPUNK (n=BentoPUN@200.242.37.130) joined ##slackware. [14:40] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@office.sephone.net) joined ##slackware. [14:40] pinku bento box [14:40] I wish pptp gave me a mac address on my ppp interface [14:41] I could get an external ip address with host name of my servers so that my buds can access me latest dev crap right off me from anywhere-:) [14:41] QWonder (n=QW@c-71-203-15-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:42] alienBOB: ping [14:42] how do I check what process uses a device again? [14:42] lsof ah [14:42] memory -.- [14:43] brb [14:43] wakeup (n=wakeup@koln-4db425c0.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: "leaving" [14:43] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:44] y'all [14:44] lol [14:45] jkwood check this http://pastebin.ca/1340320 [14:45] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [14:46] vbox!? [14:46] jkwood: i got chubbs for you [14:47] bhodgins yes [14:48] tntslack: Probably related to the frontend you're using. If you don't have QT4, you'll need to disable it [14:48] tntslack: that error shows that you fail at compiling vbox. What it not shows is why.... [14:49] is the end of compiling ... [14:49] QT3=yes QT4=no ./virtualbox-ose.SlackBuild will probably fix that. [14:49] nothing more... [14:49] there sure are some more lines before, which contain the relevant hint [14:49] tntslack: Also, did you read the README and install acpica? [14:49] jkwood: it would have failed before, if that were the case [14:50] heh [14:50] True. That would fail at configure. [14:50] tntslack: and seriously, you do *not* want the qt3 gui [14:50] i installed that too [14:50] I've been trying to get xen working on 12.2 on my racks [14:50] well i got only qt3 [14:51] lima (n=lima@adsl-99-49-20-233.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:51] is anyone having problems with flash 10 and slackware 12.2? [14:51] or nvidia and flash 10 [14:51] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:52] nope. [14:52] tntslack: so three options then if you want to use vbox: stick with vbox-2.1, who has an outdated qt3 gui (I mean really old), use qt4 or use no frontend at all [14:52] I can't get it to work fullscreen mode [14:52] firefox crashes [14:52] jkwood: just came to my mind, it *should* have failed too if he chose qt4 gui and there's no qt4 available... [14:53] nille_ (i=1000@c-8b61e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:53] pprkut: Should have. [14:53] antler: weird [14:54] I cant watch HD videos on youtube fullscreen [14:54] http://pastebin.ca/1340334 here is when qt starting compile [14:54] Qt meta object compiler and then the following lines [14:55] Nick change: lima -> dk [14:55] BentoPUNK (n=BentoPUN@200.242.37.130) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:55] nille_ (i=1000@c-9761e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [14:55] tntslack: ok, now that looks really like you are using qt3 to build the qt4 gui. Do what jkwood told you earlier, or preferably install qt4 [14:56] wakeup (n=wakeup@koln-4db425c0.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [14:56] :x [14:56] The qt4 gui is very nice. [14:56] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:56] Lots of qt4 things are very nice. [14:56] dk: geforce here. proprietary driver. newest ff3. newest flash, downloaded from adobe [14:57] ok will try with qt4 [14:57] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/libraries/qt4/ [14:57] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.37.28) joined ##slackware. [14:57] DoktoRN (n=mathias@h164n5c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. [14:57] The only problem is, qt4 takes a while to compile. [14:57] got that, thanks [14:57] and a bit of space on harddisk [14:57] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:57] :) [14:57] it doesn't take THAT long. faster than kde anyway. :P [14:57] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.1.250.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net) left irc: "reboot biab" [14:58] be sure to have 2GB+ free on wherever you build it [14:58] in the meantime a question, which started my dilemma: is it stupid, to *stack* 2 drives and a fanless computer, regarding heat? [14:58] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:59] you kill the life span of the disks [14:59] cest (n=cest@91.150.124.10) joined ##slackware. [15:00] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:00] okay [15:00] thanks [15:00] so at least my idiocy wasnt useless [15:01] antler: nvidia 180 version? [15:01] yeah, newest one for the geforce 9 series [15:02] wakeup: stupid stuff happens to all of us [15:02] nullboy: then I am your master [15:02] ;) [15:02] lol [15:02] cipher (n=cipher@41.252.38.138) joined ##slackware. [15:02] i copied a blank disk to a disk that i needed a copy of... [15:02] lol [15:03] mbhayes (i=dominian@noobfarm.org) left irc: "leaving" [15:03] I wanted to copy /home to the raid and instead .rm -rf'ed it [15:03] rinaldi (n=chatzill@adsl-072-148-191-246.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:03] nille_ (i=1000@c-9761e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Leaving" [15:03] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [15:04] lol [15:04] cest (n=cest@91.150.124.10) left irc: "Leaving" [15:04] plus I dont get why my f***** server does not boot without a f*** monitor plugged in [15:04] like wtf [15:04] wakeup [15:04] i got chubbs for you [15:04] LOL [15:04] LOL [15:04] alienBOB: time for the whole mibbit ban [15:04] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:05] nullboy whats wrong? [15:05] you [15:05] mibbit is a niceajax [15:05] wakeup, dont worry, My monowall firewall, the system, it doesnt allow booting without a keyboard and theres no bios setting for it [15:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:06] so strange [15:06] psufunk: unfortunately, mibbit isn't the actual issue. the issue is jackasses using mibbit to be annoying in IRC channels [15:06] what did the guys at nrg-systems THINK? [15:06] Nick change: psufunk -> chubbs4u [15:07] I think I am going to have to write them a mail [15:07] University of Massachusetts, eh? [15:07] ibm servers. good way to go [15:07] chubbs4u (i=80775b0d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c3676b6dbba3d2cf) left ##slackware. [15:08] Using mibbit.com to access ##slackware is blocked for now [15:09] cool [15:09] yay [15:09] I should short out the ps2 port.. [15:09] lol [15:09] Gargantua (i=Gargantu@24.64.99.224) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:10] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.1.250.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:10] I can't believe freenode boots me when I have tor running. [15:10] howdy [15:10] Action: bhodgins waves [15:11] cipher is a nice nick, hello [15:11] hey wakeup, thanks :) [15:11] bhodgins: disable being a rely [15:11] relay [15:11] hey bhodgins [15:11] you can use Tor just fine but not in relay mode [15:11] anyone know about samrt pkg manager [15:11] I'm not a relay. I'm on a laptop [15:11] is it worth to try? [15:11] would be bad [15:12] bhodgins: ? [15:12] ok so there is only one thing that could make me rage: I got two raid disks, the first is numer 0 (ok), the second is numer 2.... why? [15:12] bhodgins: what is the error message you get from freenode then? [15:12] I think it was something like banned or something, because of using a proxy [15:12] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:12] ill have to check it [15:12] Action: wakeup and of course "finish=1725.6min" <- 28 hours T_T [15:12] ... [15:12] exactyl what i just said [15:12] smart package manager, any idea? [15:12] is it worth to install? [15:13] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [15:13] cipher: Third-party package managers aren't generally encouraged around here. [15:13] alienBOB, have you seen the lastest bind security advisory? [15:13] aha, i c [15:13] you can have Tor running on your laptop but it is running in relay or helper mode and freenode uses hidden services so you cannot run an open Tor proxy and connect to freenode [15:13] thanks, jkwood [15:13] Closing Link: 127.0.0.1 (Banned) [15:13] * Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). [15:13] ... [15:13] nachox: no, but I fear DNS is in need of change. [15:14] you have a Tor proxy running and that is not allowed [15:14] retarded. lol. [15:14] umm not really [15:14] if you knew how Tor worked it would make sense [15:14] alienBOB, btw, even if a user changes his nick, his username is based on real his ip address [15:14] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [15:15] i'm talking about a user connected through mibbit [15:15] its not like I've got that port opened to the outside. [15:15] bhodgins: that isn't what it is looking at [15:16] one time i had my internet IP propagated across the whole global Tor list and i was k-lined from freenode for a week until the list re-propagated [15:17] Action: jkwood remembers that [15:17] you simply have a configuration issue [15:17] QWonder (n=QW@c-71-203-15-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:17] nachox: psu* joins/parts showed he was using several IP addresses [15:18] Action: wakeup goes reading a book, its chill time [15:18] good luck to all of you, and gn8 [15:18] ohh, bummer, then i guess it's ok, mibbit had to go [15:18] kwenda (i=kwenda-t@win2k3.kylewenda.com) joined ##slackware. [15:18] wakeup (n=wakeup@koln-4db425c0.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: "leaving" [15:18] Nick change: cipher -> [cipher] [15:19] Cryp71c (i=rpb2i@ranger1.cs.mtsu.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:19] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:20] eh? [15:22] im trying to build the offical broadcom wifi drivers from http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php - the command they specify to run is "make -C /lib/modules/2.6.27.7 M=`pwd`"... i do and get "no targets specified and no makefile found" [15:22] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [15:22] i know whatever it is is a dumb mistake... anybody care to point it out to me? [15:22] aperturefever` (n=abell@athedsl-196502.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:23] was reading freenodes policy on tor, interesting, doesnt help much though [15:24] you think its the 127.0.0.1? [15:24] i just explainned the whole thing [15:24] sinkigobopo (n=sinkigob@unaffiliated/sinkigobopo) left irc: "leaving" [15:24] -n [15:24] Okay, I'll take a look [15:25] check your Tor configuration [15:25] are you using vidalia? [15:25] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-05bcfe8f9b1a1ec5) left irc: [15:25] missed out on the previous convo [15:25] Whatever is the default. I just set it up the other day and left it, haven been able to tweak it since [15:25] bhodgins: i've been through exactly what you have going on right now [15:25] thrice`_ (i=thrice@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [15:26] ^^ figured it out... need to append /build/ to the make command which is not in the instructions... told you it was dumb [15:26] kwenda: it's broadcom for crying out loud! [15:26] glad you're ok now lol [15:26] thrice` (i=thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:26] kwenda: b43 can't work for you? [15:26] Nick change: thrice`_ -> thrice` [15:26] b43 does work yes, but its 'degraded' somehow [15:26] it doesnt hold on to a weaker signal [15:27] the offical driver works better [15:27] there should be a roaming tuning option [15:27] cuba (n=cuba@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) joined ##slackware. [15:27] Nick change: [cipher] -> cipher [15:27] There is an official linux broadcom driver? [15:27] yeah [15:27] wl.o [15:27] eh? [15:28] and it uses a tool called NAS to control it [15:28] http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php [15:28] im using wicd from /extras ... its pretty nice [15:29] cipher (n=cipher@41.252.38.138) left irc: "Leaving" [15:29] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:31] cipher (n=cipher@41.252.38.138) joined ##slackware. [15:31] mbhayes (i=dominian@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [15:31] hi dom [15:32] sup [15:32] doing emeregency reboot of the vps.. what a pita [15:32] not much, i'm happy with 2.gb of ram :) [15:32] omg, the fonts in browsers couldn't be worse... [15:33] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Connection timed out [15:34] dk (n=lima@adsl-99-49-20-233.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [15:34] vps? [15:34] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-192218.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:34] Nick change: aperturefever` -> aperturefever [15:35] sQuEE (n=narya@host211.201-253-131.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [15:36] very magic super private server thing [15:36] seriously wowage [15:37] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [15:37] hehe [15:37] dusty_ (n=dusty@88-105-85-107.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [15:37] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:37] anrxc (n=anrxc@sysphere.org) left irc: "leaving" [15:38] damn it, anyone know cool howto for setting LAMP on slackware 12.2? [15:38] dusty_ (n=dusty@88-105-85-107.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [15:38] or neat small book for that [15:38] setting the most xxx servers on it [15:38] cipher, ja vem no slackware isso [15:38] nao precisas de o instalar [15:38] web, samba,...etc [15:38] Bopinhu: O.o english plz. [15:38] Bopinhu, english pls [15:39] why english ? this is a pt channel [15:39] pt!! [15:39] dusty_ (n=dusty@88-105-85-107.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [15:39] this is a english channeled. [15:39] this is a public channel, and most people here speak english, so speak english =p [15:39] -ed [15:39] ops sorry [15:39] wrong window lol [15:39] fail [15:39] yea right. [15:39] Bopinhu, it does't matter what language you are speaking, as long as we can understand each other [15:39] epic failure. [15:39] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) left irc: No route to host [15:39] cipher, LAMP is default on slackware [15:40] u dont need to install it [15:40] cuba (n=cuba@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) left irc: "Leaving" [15:40] indeed. [15:40] just a matter of configuring it. [15:40] ok, but how to set it? [15:40] slackbook.org maybe [15:40] also samba comes with distribution [15:40] yeah , slackbook will help [15:40] or learn to configure each service [15:40] cool, will check [15:40] apache help or mysql help [15:41] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) joined ##slackware. [15:41] thanks acidchild, Bopinhu [15:41] k no prob [15:42] QuiescentW (n=QW@c-71-203-15-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:42] :P [15:42] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-206.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:42] 12.2 i guess [15:42] is't it? [15:43] yes, latest version [15:43] then u upgrade to current [15:43] no don't upgrade to current. [15:43] why not [15:43] if your running a production like machine. [15:43] i'm trying to install 12.2 on some older servers i have but i can't figure out where the raid is, fdisk can see both the drives individually but not the raid [15:43] cipher: just configure slackpkg to update your machine with security patchs. [15:43] maybe u need to boot a raid kernel [15:44] maybe thats going too far? =) [15:44] QuiescentW: software RAID? [15:44] acidchild, how i can do that? [15:44] s/u/you/ [15:44] no, it's hardware raid [15:44] slackpkg update? [15:44] how do i boot a raid kernel? [15:44] NO such thing as a raid kernel in 12.2 [15:44] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:45] QuiescentW: have you configured your RAID device correctly in POST? [15:45] QuiescentW, i dont know if default dvd kernel loads raid drivers [15:45] the huge kernel should [15:45] ok then [15:45] aic-7902 u320 w/hostraid [15:45] but it depends on the card in question and if there is a driver enabled for it [15:45] most of them have a software RAID driver. [15:45] Bopinhu: about slackware-current: that is our *development* tree, and all sorts of things can break at every point of the way towards a new release [15:45] hostraid.. argh [15:45] that's software raid. iirc [15:45] SLackware stable releases have a number [15:45] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:45] better off using mdadm :P [15:46] yes, i have two drives configured as raid0 in the raid configuration [15:46] i tought they test it before putting it on current [15:46] alienBOB: 1-800-sla-cker ? [15:46] doh [15:46] hehe [15:46] at least the minimal tests [15:46] acidchild: call that number see what you get [15:46] QuiescentW: maybe mdadm will help like mbhayes says [15:46] I'm willing to bet its porn [15:46] mbhayes: rofl. [15:46] phone porn? =P [15:46] Try: /sbin/mdadm -E -s > /etc/mdadm.conf ; /sbin/mdadm -A -s [15:46] O.o?! [15:48] acidchild, how can i configure slackpkg to install the security patch's automaticlly and manually [15:48] any idea? [15:48] blueberrys [15:48] normaly work. [15:48] auto _and_ manually? [15:48] cipher: read /etc/slackpkg/ stuff [15:49] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] dive: crontab? [15:49] dive, cron [15:49] ah [15:49] ok, acidchild will read it [15:49] so i should just shut off hostraid and use mdadm [15:49] QWonder (n=QW@c-71-203-15-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:49] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-220-104.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:50] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:50] i have some real raid controllers around here somewhere [15:50] megaraid something or other [15:50] spiral_architect (n=spiral_a@24.225.23.245) left irc: "Leaving" [15:50] would that be easier to setup? [15:50] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) left irc: [15:51] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:52] probly =) [15:53] xaviertoor (n=xavierto@189-015-118-063.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [15:54] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:54] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [15:55] WINDOWS RULES! [15:55] WOO [15:55] GO VISTA [15:56] lol [15:57] link? slackbuild? [15:57] windows.tar.gz [15:57] slackbuild.org?? [15:57] gades (n=gades@190.33.62.19) joined ##slackware. [15:57] google.com??!?! [15:57] lol [15:57] slackbuilds.org [15:58] vista is not on slackbuilds :( [15:58] lol [15:58] haha no it's not ;) [15:58] http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=slackbuilds.org [15:58] I've got the slackbuild bug now - I just need something to make :-) [15:58] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:01] dive What= [16:01] ? [16:01] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:02] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "leaving" [16:02] I mean since I've had my first slackbuild approved I've got the bug to make more [16:02] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl84-48.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [16:02] dive: kudos! [16:02] :-) [16:02] DoktoRN, i guess dive meant "Don't Bother" [16:02] :) [16:02] cipher: probs [16:02] ? [16:03] or "Don't disturb" [16:03] :P [16:03] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] baldguy (n=m1d@host86-134-203-170.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:03] vista rules! woo [16:03] =/ I have to partition a 160GB hard-drive into 8 partitions with one partition being win7 (20GB) and another one holding games (40-60GB), crap [16:03] acidchild: rules [16:03] never used it i just read about it [16:03] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.89) joined ##slackware. [16:03] DoktoRN: rules? [16:03] i rule? [16:03] =] [16:04] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-19-217.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [16:04] hello [16:04] aarrgg [16:04] hi fluxnuk3r [16:04] hey dive [16:05] dive: ever hooked up a UPS system w/monitoring software? [16:05] hi. has anyone managed to get rt2860 to work with wpa2psk? [16:05] nope [16:05] amazon10x (i=amazon10@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-a88a1b64f9f620e1) joined ##slackware. [16:05] Camarade_Tux: Why? [16:05] fluxnuk3r: yep [16:06] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [16:06] anyone know the name of a framebuffer image display app apart from zgv and fbida? Someone mentioned it the other day and I can't recall the name and lastlog doesn't yeild anything.. [16:07] acidchild: got a system with UPSMON, its a powercom company UPS. The software "installation guide" says it should be located at /dev/ttySO, but it can't find it. [16:08] Action: baldguy prays to holy Patrick for guidance [16:08] fluxnuk3r: got the serial cable plugged in? [16:08] dive: xv? [16:08] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-178.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:08] eviljames, win xp for games, win7 so I can run the gcc test-suite and help mingw-w64 development, then a partition for data/games, one for a home, two partitions for testing OSes, one for a bsd [16:08] acidchild: yah, usb... [16:08] no framebuffer only [16:08] it might have been easier to figure out hostraid, this thing takes like 4 minutes to post [16:08] not x [16:08] oh and of course, slamd64 [16:08] dive: sry [16:09] QuiescentW: when will you be rebooting it? =] [16:09] Camarade_Tux: Slackware on the main partition, wine for games, win7 and all the rest in vbox. [16:09] Camarade_Tux: In that case, slamd64 as your main boot :P [16:09] does anyone have eee pc? [16:09] baldguy: yep [16:09] acidchild: but how can it assume that that is the mount point? /dev locations are different on almost every distro. look at *bombtu [16:09] acidchild: which one? [16:09] baldguy: 900 [16:10] eviljames, wine is too slow and I want an install of xp64 anyway [16:10] ah [16:10] I could have them in vbox though, it's true [16:10] fluxnuk3r: tryed minicom? [16:10] acidchild: ahh... it has atheros wireless? [16:10] baldguy: i guess so [16:10] Camarade_Tux: While I think your plan is slightly insane, it is at least logical :D [16:10] acidchild: no good.. thanks [16:10] acidchild: minicom? never used it... [16:11] minicom or also putty [16:11] why would you use putty on linux? [16:11] :| [16:11] to do what exactly? [16:11] connect to the UPS [16:11] ha... [16:11] see what its feeding out. [16:11] fluxnuk3r: minicom can attach to the serial port /dev/ttyS0 [16:12] minicom -s /dev/ttyS0 [16:12] screen can attach to serial ports: screen /dev/ttyS0 [16:12] fluxnuk3r: and print out whatever input is being received there to term. [16:12] or screen /dev/ttyS0 38400 [pick your speed] [16:12] ananke: That I did not know. screen gets more useful every day! [16:12] It makes sense that it can, but I hadn't thought to use it that way I guess. [16:12] eviljames : yeah. i quit using minicom, screen is just easier [16:12] DoktoRN (n=mathias@h164n5c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: "leaving" [16:12] ananke: thats awesome. [16:14] is there going to be a release of slackware that supports ext4 any time soon? [16:14] ananke: how is it going in your part of the beautiful countyside ? [16:15] acidchild: minicom comes up with a menu..not sure what I need to so. I have software that came with the ups that uses the following command: ./upsmon /dev/ttyS0 300 60 [16:15] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-145-194.dynamic.sbb.rs) got netsplit. [16:16] I always liked freaking my bud out with a sudo echo "Linux knows where you live.." >b /dev/pts/1 or w/e [16:16] without the b [16:16] Hey guys, when creating an ssh tunnel using the -R it always binds the port to the loopback interface, how do i specify or tell it to bind to the external ip so i can actually access it outside of the box from another box ? [16:16] acidchild: thats why I'm trying to figure out if ttyS0 is actually where the ups is.. [16:17] why don't you just try ttyS1? [16:18] "con /dev/ttyS1" [16:18] see what comes out [16:18] QuiescentW: Is ext4 stable now? [16:18] dtanner : cold. it was ok, now it's cold and windy again [16:18] kantor (i=bird@79.114.19.175) joined ##slackware. [16:19] josemanuel (n=josemanu@37.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [16:19] hi [16:20] eviljames: you tryed it? [16:20] QWonder (n=QW@c-71-203-15-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:20] QuiescentW: apparently thats half the problem. now I get the same as this guy: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/susenovell-60/upsmon-software-366853/ [16:21] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-145-194.dynamic.sbb.rs) got lost in the net-split. [16:21] urg! the SSL cert is fake! [16:21] acidchild: No, but QuiescentW was asking if it was in the release plans. [16:21] and built on md5 [16:21] :/ [16:21] grr [16:21] I have a big request: could somebody test a program for me ? because I fixed a but and I would like to see if it work on other system too . . [16:21] depends on what it does? 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[16:25] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-19-217.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:25] it is on sourceforge [16:26] wait a minute [16:26] chattr, http://nok.svn.sourceforge.net/ [16:26] cipher (n=cipher@41.252.38.138) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:26] in the left corner is a Download GNU tarball link [16:27] click on that to get the latest svn code [16:27] zaemis (n=tboroncz@64.128.173.30) left irc: "Leaving." [16:27] after the wpa_supplicant is launched, it associates and closes itself or what? [16:28] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.46) left irc: [16:29] kantor: better explain here what the progam does. "network stress testing" easily means you kill your box if yo urun the program [16:30] And why is it called "noc" in the README... instead of nok. The README reads as if it talks about an entirely differnt program [16:30] alienBOB: Forgive my ignorance, but why would network stress testing kill your box? [16:31] ok, I want to implement many more things there, at this point executes 4 types of floods UDP flood, Ping of death, ping flood, and syn flood [16:31] It can also call your mother in law eviljames [16:31] alienBOB, it is not released [16:31] it has no stable version yet [16:31] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc3-asht4-0-0-cust589.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [16:32] kantor: I never use a program without reading what it does before I run it [16:33] alienBOB, you can read the source code, the man page is not updated [16:33] the --help output is up to date [16:34] alienBOB: NO!! [16:34] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:34] eviljames: the whole point of stress testing is it takes your system to the edge [16:34] at the least, it should, by design, make it unresponsive. [16:36] baldguy (n=m1d@host86-134-203-170.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "leaving" [16:36] Right, but aren't you stressing out the network, not your machine? [16:36] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn182.91-127-245.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [16:37] cipher (n=cipher@41.252.38.138) joined ##slackware. [16:37] eviljames: it depends on what kind of network testing [16:37] eg "ab" can be considered network testing [16:37] ctrl alt backspace! [16:37] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@office.sephone.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:37] but it's a fairly good machine stress sometimes [16:37] especially if you have an uncached database-heavy php page :p [16:37] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [16:40] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@office.sephone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:40] went to do a killall5 [16:41] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:43] kantor: i'd suggest you put some information on your site at SF (or in the README there) what your program is supposed to do and why one would want to use it [16:44] arny` (n=arny@79.119.156.173) left irc: "Leaving" [16:45] kantor: looks similar to mz, I guess [16:45] pprkut, I would check that out, and thanks for tha advise chattr ;-) [16:46] kantor: http://www.perihel.at/sec/mz [16:49] thanks pprkut that motivated me to create a better software then mz [16:50] haha, go ahead then :) [16:50] fevel (n=fevel@189.32.157.67) joined ##slackware. [16:51] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) joined ##slackware. [16:51] cooperation would create the most benefit for potential users though IMHO [16:52] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-145-194.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [16:55] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:56] JanuxNET (n=janux@190.190.5.92) left ##slackware (""Hasta la vista, baby..""). [16:57] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:58] Man-erg (n=meck@85-18-136-67.fastres.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:59] i am seeing many references to a firefox 3 slackbuild ubt am not seeing it on slackbuilds.org [16:59] fevel (n=fevel@189.32.157.67) left irc: [16:59] grab it from any official mirror [17:00] its my understanding I can grab it from -current and it's ok? just a repackaging? [17:00] dartmouth: That should be just fine. Get the tgz file, md5 it to make sure it transferred right, then upgradepkg ff3.tgz as root [17:00] thank you much [17:01] I guess it won't be ff3.tgz, but firefox-3.0.6-whatever.tgz [17:01] look here, for example: http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/slackware/slackware/patches/source/mozilla-firefox/ [17:04] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:04] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-178.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:04] zlisir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:04] hel23 (n=543JH@ANantes-157-1-99-49.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:05] awesome that was way easier than what i was gonna do lol [17:05] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [17:07] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:07] cipher (n=cipher@41.252.38.138) left irc: "Leaving" [17:07] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [17:08] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) joined ##slackware. [17:08] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:08] My home folder is on Root user , therefore all programs i have to run as super user. I added a second non root user but all programms look for config file in /root/home/ [17:09] wtf :| [17:09] is there a way to run normal non root progs from second user ? hope i made some sense .. [17:09] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [17:09] why are you logged in as root? [17:09] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@office.sephone.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:09] Your system setup does not make sense hel23 [17:10] why don't you move files to /home/username and chown -R user:users /home/username [17:10] skibur (i=1000@12.197.207.65) joined ##slackware. [17:10] alienBOB: why are you opped up? [17:10] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [17:10] You had to be really determined to change Slackware's defaults and put user homedirectories in /root/home [17:10] Am I [17:10] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [17:10] thank you [17:10] Must be since yesterday [17:10] Thank you? [17:11] Why... was it threatening to you [17:11] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [17:11] nope, just not very channel like [17:12] ok thanks il give it try. 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[17:22] eviljames, yes i am , im trying to fix it [17:22] lol [17:22] eviljames: hi is my friend, he is a new guy in town of slack.. [17:22] Guest74413: trying to fix irc? [17:22] :D [17:23] heh sorry , meant my messed up slackware permissions [17:23] you think there are many undisclosed exploits discovered for irc clients on slackware? [17:24] jonsmith1982: Considering that a quick ctcp version to our guest user here says he is using xchat 2.8.2 [17:24] Which is outdated by a few versions, likely due to bugs, who knows? [17:24] lol [17:24] Action: nullboy fires up metasploit [17:24] haha [17:24] ssh don't want every man and his dog trying to exploit me =/ [17:25] nullboy: I'd have expected better from you! write your sploits in asm! [17:25] lol [17:25] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [17:26] Ginto8 (n=Ginto8@pool-71-168-216-132.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:26] Guest74413: Are you using a Celeron 700 or something? [17:26] eviljames: dont be so evil.. [17:27] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.201.230) joined ##slackware. [17:27] pupit: Was I right? [17:27] eviljames, yea, clearly its a 486 [17:27] eviljames, its an eeepc 701 with 4 gb hd [17:27] Guest74413: ahh, gotcha. That's pretty cool, how do you like the ee? [17:27] like a 486 [17:27] ho shall decide, tear apart, wrong from right? eviljames [17:28] edman007|work: Don't knock 486! I still use one as my jukebox :P [17:28] haha [17:28] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [17:28] eviljames, great , a bigger hd would be nice =) [17:28] Guest74413: I have a few usb jump drives that are bigger than your hd :P [17:28] http://pastebin.com/d2ad243cd [17:29] Nick change: Ginto8 -> Ginto8|Away [17:29] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:29] Ginto8|Away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [17:29] haha [17:29] woah [17:29] eviljames, my mobile has a bigger hd heh [17:29] That is hardcore strict! [17:29] baldguy (n=m1d@host86-134-203-170.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:29] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-72-224-255-142.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:29] Hey [17:30] my pentiun 2 is a naturally aspirated jukebox [17:30] hi. can router provide both WPA1 and WPA2 support or just WPA2 and backward compability to WPA1? [17:31] at the same time [17:31] slaxxin: as opposed to forced induction? [17:31] zlisir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:31] baldguy: what router? [17:32] straterra: any router [17:32] uhm..its dependent on the router.. [17:32] ... [17:32] is it possible? [17:32] Guest74413: If I might make a suggestion, open up an xterm window and run "adduser", make yourself a user account, log out, and login as that. [17:33] I don't see why it wouldn't be possibly..but..dunno how many support them at the same time [17:33] I know microtik does [17:33] Guest74413: Not to harp on the same issue over & over :P [17:33] For anything else, consult their documentation [17:33] I think you'd have to have a duuplicate interface listening on the other. It should be possible but what the hell is it worth? normally, you just want to choose one. after al, that makes it more secure [17:34] You don't need multiple interfaces [17:34] and not all devices support WPA2 [17:34] eviljames, yes i did that , then i got /dev/tty0 perrmission denied , so googled , now try chmod 666 /dev/tty [17:34] or even wpa [17:34] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:34] (2009-02-17 14:31:02) baldguy: hi. can router provide both WPA1 and WPA2 support or just WPA2 and backward compability to WPA1? <--umm doesn't both of those describe the same thing? [17:34] I know straterra, but I dont know any software that would do both on the same [17:34] eviljames, my perrmission are generally messed up real head ache [17:34] bhodgins: you don't WANT to do both on the client level [17:35] On the server side, its possible [17:35] Like I said, microtik will do it [17:35] another related question? can wpa2 use tkip or only aes? [17:35] thats what I was talking about.. [17:35] baldguy: google.com [17:35] but its still not worth it [17:35] wpa2 in tkip mode is the backward compat mode [17:35] oh thats cool [17:35] this isn't #wifi-information [17:35] true wpa2 uses AES (aka CCMP) [17:35] nullboy: which means its basically wpa1 [17:35] baldguy: yes [17:36] still. the least ammount of ways you can access something, it become that much more secure. [17:36] i am jjust confused atm, used google too much) [17:36] used google too much? [17:36] I smell...bullshit [17:36] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4383377.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:36] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:36] didn't find exact answers, just close ones.. which totally confused me... [17:37] Again..like it said..it depends on your router [17:37] i used wpa_supplicant with proto=rsn and pairwise=tkip... and it works.. [17:37] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:37] yeah but that is the lame mode [17:37] which doesn't make sense.. rsn is wpa2, and wpa2 uses ccmp [17:37] ... [17:37] we just explained that [17:38] backward comp [17:38] RSN using tkip is backward compat mode [17:38] wahcordian|Work (n=wahcordi@97-119-176-223.albq.qwest.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:38] is there any way to find out if my card supports aes:ccmp, apart from documentation? [17:38] I have huge windows file which I need to move to a Linux system. The Linux system only has a CDROM drive. How can I split files and merge back on Windows. I am looking for software solutions. [17:39] kleanchap: using split? [17:39] dd [17:39] dd won't work on windows [17:39] Guest74413 (n=root@ANantes-157-1-99-49.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:39] of course it does [17:40] There is dd on Windows but then how do I merge them back using dd? [17:40] kleanchap: just install the windows gnu coreutils [17:40] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-3-35.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:40] i did not know dd worked under windows [17:40] i can't get connected to my wifi, i have a clean install of 12.2. intel 3945bg wifi [17:40] i only use 64-bit wep encryption [17:41] i've entered the key into wicd over and over [17:41] nullboy: What are gnu coreutils? Are they Windows utils? [17:41] gnu coreutils FOR windows [17:41] QWonder: driver wext? [17:41] lol. [17:41] the big wtf there [17:41] http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/coreutils.htm [17:41] silly question, if I've multiple instances of "dhcpcd wlan0" in ps -aux (about 15 of them), that's no good, correct? and I probably ought to kill them? I'm just a tad bit confused when so many of them seem to be running [17:42] root (n=root@ANantes-157-1-99-49.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:42] nullboy: Thanks! [17:42] Nick change: root -> Guest28404 [17:43] Ficthe, u can kill em all [17:43] and re-lauch dhcpcd [17:43] but i dont know why it happen [17:44] i get permission denied on /dev/tty0 and cannot startx i tried to chmod 666 /dev/tty0 still no luck [17:44] QWonder: check /var/log/wicd/wicd.log [17:45] QWonder: scratch the wext question.. my mind is somewhere elsewhere... [17:46] yeah, it's set to wext in wicd [17:46] it just sits there and says validating authentication... [17:46] i tried killing it [17:46] Channel flood from QWonder -- kicking [17:46] iwconfig shows everything is setup right, afaik. then i tried dhclient wlan0 but it never gets an address [17:46] QWonder kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:47] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:47] QWonder (n=QW@c-71-203-15-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:47] yeah, it's set to wext in wicd [17:47] ? [17:47] it just sits there and says validating authentication... [17:47] what happened? [17:47] ic [17:48] i tried killing it and iwconfig shows everything is setup correctly afaik, then i try dhclient wlan0 but it never gets an address [17:48] QWonder: try dhcpcd wlan0 [17:48] every time i try to connect with wicd it disconnects me from my wired connection [17:48] alright [17:48] QWonder: i have problems with dhclient on slack aswell.. [17:49] it works fine on eth0, just not on the wlan [17:49] when dhclient frigs up, I just use dhcpcd [17:49] Guest28404 (n=root@ANantes-157-1-99-49.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:49] now al I use is dhcpcd -R though anyways [17:49] QWonder: btw, which distrib do you use? [17:49] wicd must not be setting something up correctly [17:49] 12.2 [17:50] it's a clean install [17:50] dhcpcd timed out [17:50] QWonder: did you chmod -x rc.wireless and blanked out all settings in rc.inet1.conf? [17:50] i wish i knew how to configure it manually [17:51] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:52] iwconfig wlan0 essid apname, iwconfig wlan0 key my_wep_key, dhcpcd wlan0? [17:52] maybe ifconfig wlan0 in the beginning aswell... [17:52] maybe ifconfig wlan0 up in the beginning aswell... [17:53] dive^ (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [17:54] dive^ (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Client Quit [17:54] dive^ (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [17:54] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [17:55] i just use the stock networking scripts with my 3945ABG [17:55] i used wicd for a little bit and it worked but i like the stock scripts more [17:56] wicd is ok for roaming [17:57] my friend uses it to get on wpa since iwconfig doesnt do it... [17:57] but on boot it's nice to just boot with scripts [17:57] o0 [17:57] wpa_supplicant get's on wpa [17:57] i actually like wicd better than the stock scripts believe it or not [17:57] and my machine is now also configured for init level 4 as default (believe it or not) [17:57] maybe he meant iwpriv... [17:57] hmm. I used that on freebsd with ifconfig [17:58] bhodgins: umm you don't use iwconfig for wpa...you use wpa_supplicant and wpa_supplicant can handle WEP,WPA,WPA2, plaintext and EAP [17:58] ic [17:58] it means a misconfigured /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [17:58] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:58] that's all [17:58] Nick change: dive^ -> dive [17:59] here is my example for using the stock scripts for WPA2 http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10379 [17:59] how long has that been in slack? [17:59] a long time.... [17:59] I don't remember it in 10.2 or 11 [18:01] sinkigobopo (n=sinkigob@unaffiliated/sinkigobopo) joined ##slackware. [18:02] if you want to use WPA/WPA2 change line 11 to "proto=WPA2 WPA" and line 14 to: "pairwise=CCMP TKIP" and line 15 to: "group=CCMP TKIP" [18:02] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) left irc: "leaving" [18:03] that will make wpa_supplicant auto detect [18:04] amazon10x (i=amazon10@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-a88a1b64f9f620e1) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:05] martian67 (i=user5490@about/linux/regular/martian67) left irc: "gone" [18:05] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-196502.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Freedom is secured not by the fulfilling of one's desires, but by the removal of desire. So to a mind that is still, the whol [18:06] Guest81453 (n=root@ANantes-157-1-99-49.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:07] have weird problem /dev/tty0 keep changing permission to root [18:07] anyone interested in seeing a video of me playing guitar and singing in church? [18:07] (facebook) [18:07] martian67 (i=user5490@about/linux/regular/martian67) joined ##slackware. [18:07] ehh, no [18:08] only if your interested in seeing me do my ex [ in bed ] [18:08] i changed /dev permission chown -R username /dev but when i log into account its root only.. [18:09] hmm [18:09] dhcpcd still timed out [18:09] even after setting it up manually [18:09] Guest81453: /dev is populated automatically, you'll probably want to change the udev rules, or add yourself to group 'wheel' [18:10] QWonder: does iwconfig wlan0 shows that you're connected? [18:10] it says not associated [18:11] eviljames, thanks will have to google [18:11] Guest81453: Is that why you're still using that account to be on irc? [18:12] that's bad.. dcpcd shouldn't work then... [18:12] eviljames, yes [18:12] Guest81453: pupit mentioned that you were new toslackware's ways.. [18:12] QWonder: tryed connecting to an open ap? [18:12] Guest81453: When you login you are getting an error message about tty0? [18:12] eviljames, yes [18:12] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] omg xfs on a 5400 rpm drive is remarkably slow during a delete operation [18:13] i love XFS but that's the only issue i ever have [18:13] facebook: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/video/video.php?v=1108085579523&oid=50648824927&ref=nf [18:13] that's the link to the video of me playing guitar and singing [18:13] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-206.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [18:14] TwinReverb: we said we didn't want to see it... [18:15] Guest81453 (n=root@ANantes-157-1-99-49.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:15] sorry, gotta go... [18:15] baldguy (n=m1d@host86-134-203-170.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "leaving" [18:16] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:16] toytoy (n=dindin@222.127.248.89) joined ##slackware. [18:16] StealthAsimov (n=andy@c-7278e255.030-101-6b6c6d10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:16] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:17] baldguy: no, there aren't any around here [18:17] oh [18:17] oops [18:18] TwinReverb scared him with threats of singing [18:18] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-145-194.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:18] ;p [18:20] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:20] it happens ^_^ [18:20] hmm [18:20] since CPU utilization is less of a concern recently, maybe ReiserFS would be a better FS choice [18:21] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left ##slackware (":wq!"). [18:21] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [18:21] TwinReverb: I thought xfs was more constrained by cpu overhead than reiser was? [18:22] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-202-215.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:24] i still use ext3... >.> [18:24] I use ext3 as / and xfs as /home [18:25] Seems to work good enough for me. [18:25] Action: bhodgins uses jfs [18:25] eviljames, i thought you had migrated to opensolaris :P [18:25] nachox: server moved, desktop not so much. [18:26] ah, IRIX... [18:26] nachox: the desktop is slamd64, laptop is slackware, server is osol [18:26] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [18:26] Action: nachox used just about regular fs in linux except ext4 [18:26] I wish mac didnt drop ppc.. [18:26] i used to use jfs for eveything in slackware [18:27] i never had a single problem with it [18:27] I use debian, slackware, m0n0wall, and freeNAS for my servers [18:27] works great! [18:27] and in debian i just used xfs and ext3 at a customer's, i didnt pick the linux distro unfortunately [18:27] zlisir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:28] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:28] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:29] zlisir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:30] I've been trying out a few distros last few days [18:30] so far red hat seems fastest/easiest to maintain and suse/mandriva just a pita [18:30] depends what you're used to [18:31] 5 or 6 years using slack [18:31] dive: After 10 years, I can't stand most distros. [18:31] dive: I try one, and then come back to slack, then try another, and then back to slack [18:31] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:32] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:32] well the thing that got me about suse/mandriva was that they insist on a gui for install [18:32] eviljames, the same happened here :) [18:32] eviljames, no, cpu didn't budge during delete of a kernel build area. reiserfs tends to tax CPU more than xfs. but still, xfs delete operations can take a while. it's commonly said that xfs was meant for dealin with many large files, not many small i guess [18:32] TwinReverb, yeah xfs is said to be faster for large files [18:32] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [18:32] and perhaps jfs too [18:33] not sure of that though atm [18:33] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-190-203.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [18:33] i don't like ext3 though, it always seems slow to me [18:34] QuiescentW (n=QW@c-71-203-15-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: [18:34] everytime I see a word beginning with j I think of java and I cringe [18:34] TwinReverb: What kind of hw? [18:34] i would try ext4 now that it is stable but alas no slackware installer support on 12.2. i may try a "hacked" installer for the purpose of ext4, but oh well. the latest benchmark i read made it seem like ext4 and xfs were really no different in performance [18:35] I like it's stability but I don't the 'you have mounted a partition 2 times, check forced' [18:35] my laptop: http://www.puresimplicity.net/~twinreverb/linux/sony/sony.html [18:35] i use ext3 because if i ever have an fs problem there will be a higher likely hood of finding someone who can help with ext3 than the others [18:35] that's about the only advantage i can see ext3 having: some undelete abilities [18:35] the times I have hard reset this laptop with ext3 and no ill effects... [18:36] reiser killed a partition doing a fsck [18:36] i've hard-reset machines using reiserfs and xfs and seen no ill effects [18:36] TwinReverb: I am kind of surprised that you're noticing high latencies on anything.. [18:36] TwinReverb: I have a very similar laptop and it is very snappy and responsive. [18:36] well not on my current laptop so much. on my old laptop it was night and day. [18:36] Bopinhu (i=0@bl11-182-206.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [18:36] i'm not switching FS just because, at least not on this laptop [18:36] I reinstalled all of D and I still get the error /usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.2.3/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory [18:36] collect2: ld returned 1 exit status [18:37] i used reiserfs (v3) from slack 9 to slack 12, never had issues. now i use xfs simply because i now have the hard drive space to rip DVDs to hard drive ("large files") [18:37] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.67.229) joined ##slackware. [18:37] TwinReverb, after a hard reset on desktop machine with reiser had a message that something was wrong although it still booted, so I booted up with cd and did a manual fsck as advised and it destroyed the partition = reinstall [18:37] aceofspades19: look into glibc [18:37] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-145-194.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [18:37] eviljames: and do what? [18:37] dive, well i've never seen that [18:38] lucky me, i guess [18:38] TwinReverb, well it only happened once then I changed to ext3 [18:38] aceofspades19: *full* error list - not just the last one. [18:38] rworkman: that is the full error list [18:38] aceofspades19: Well, on my system crt1.o is provided by glibc-2.7, so if I had to guess, there's a problem there. [18:38] is reiserFS even maintained anymore? [18:39] i'm being told "yes it is" by namesys [18:39] we were talking about this the other day [18:39] maybe not as actively, but i'd say yes [18:39] eviljames: ok [18:39] or namedsys or whatever that website is [18:39] someone said namesys site hadn't been updated in yonks [18:39] aceofspades19: as eviljames said, you should ensure that l/glibc is installed. [18:40] I'm curious what made you decide *not* to install the C library. [18:40] personally, i wouldn't use any filesystem that is stuck in that type of limbo [18:40] Action: jkwood cringes [18:41] nullboy, nor me but mainly because of the guy who wrote it [18:41] QWonder (n=QW@c-71-203-15-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:41] rworkman: I would bet, if I had to bet, that he didn't install any of the l/ subseries, in trying to make a minimal system. [18:41] rworkman: I assumed I did [18:41] it's not stuck in limbo. the creator is in jail. so what? he had many on his programming team. just because he's an evil genius doesn't mean he's not a genius :) [18:41] or we might get mansonfs [18:41] jacktheripperfs [18:41] attributing evil to the filesystem because its creator is a murderer is a straw man argument [18:42] if linus was found to be embezzling money would you switch to FreeBSD? [18:42] eviljames: quite possibly. aceofspades19: double check :) [18:42] But attributing genius to someone who does something insane... [18:42] TwinReverb: link us to the reiserFS site [18:42] murder isn't something insane. [18:42] ReiserFS is, in my experience, a horrible filesystem if you're concerned about data integrity. JME. YMMV. [18:43] what is it then - certainly doesn't comply with usual foss philosophy [18:43] I'm reinstalling all of l so I don't miss anything [18:43] this time [18:43] hmm [18:43] aceofspades19: good plan, I think. [18:43] anyway I dropped reiser before any of this happened just cause ext3 seems more stable/safer/whatever [18:43] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.86.137.86) joined ##slackware. [18:43] QWonder (n=QW@c-71-203-15-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:44] rworkman, only if you dont have an UPS :) [18:44] nachox, no [18:44] Ruthven (n=mbutler@adsl-70-234-161-230.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:45] ups has nothing to do with X freezing and you have to hit the reset button [18:45] = fs crapped [18:45] dive, get a decent unix then :P [18:45] such as? [18:45] now seriously, i'd use ext3 these days if i were to use linux again [18:45] nachox: no, that's XFS. :) [18:45] ok, why is gnome-icon-theme in l? [18:45] much more tested [18:46] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [18:46] nachox: I meant, without a UPS=bad [18:46] nachox, that's what I'm using [18:46] aceofspades19: Other packages may require it for compatibility's sake. [18:46] that XFS bug that supposedly existed never affected me [18:46] i've power-cycled my machines often enough to know [18:46] rworkman, what? you havent seen those small files you created before the power went bad? :P [18:46] nachox, which OS are you using? [18:46] nachox: :) [18:46] dive: nachox is probably using (as I am) opensolaris. [18:46] JFS has been very kind to me. [18:46] it also bugs me that the stock emacs package requires X [18:47] SunOS saturn 5.11 snv_101b i86pc i386 i86pc [18:47] hmm [18:47] Action: nooper votes for JFS as well [18:47] well theres another OS to download and install [18:47] SunOS daemon 5.11 snv_106 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris [18:47] for me to* [18:47] jfs has never failed me before, but it's not really fast either... [18:47] Action: aceofspades19 uses ext3 because he is lazy and doesn't feel like switching file systems [18:47] nachox: snv_106 get with the times! [18:47] :P [18:47] aceofspades19: A *very* valid reason :) [18:47] well i would say jfs > ext3 in speed but otherwise who cares? :) [18:48] TwinReverb: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388 old but relevant. [18:48] eviljames, i have it in another be, but i'm using wpi which has some problems with wpa in that build [18:48] so you sun guys just come in here to gloat? [18:48] :> [18:48] haha [18:48] nah, i love slackware even though i dont use linux anymore [18:48] dive: I mentioned above, I use opensolaris on my home server, slamd64 on my desktop and slackware on my laptop. [18:49] dive: In short, yes. :P [18:49] ah [18:49] well that's another one for me to download, install and test [18:49] just to put a few more lines on my CV [18:49] dive: It's totally worth your time to do so, but if you do please please RTFM! [18:49] hehe [18:50] dive: There's an absolute ton of documentation, and it is very good. [18:50] right [18:50] rworkman, btw, i found a site bashing postfix when compared to qmail today :) [18:50] What?! [18:51] eviljames, yeah that's the one i went by when i chose a FS (when JFS and XFS became available in the slackware installer) [18:51] the president signed that 787 billion dollar bailout, i want my welfare chevy! [18:51] yeah I found that reading the man pages of services in red hat there was mention of 'chkconfig' at the bottom of the page - turned out to be probably the single most useful program on there (serverwise) [18:52] Pig_Pen: you have to be an executive to see any of that money [18:52] Pig_Pen: Don't bother, they're going under. [18:52] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.38.138) joined ##slackware. [18:52] Pig_Pen, are yoy a bank? [18:52] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [18:52] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-116-248.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:52] heck no! i am just a poor working class man [18:52] dive, chkconfig sucks when compared to svcadm and svcs :) [18:53] hahah [18:53] nachox: Stop bragging :P [18:53] haha, sorry, i hate redhat [18:53] <[cipher]> any idea about running .wmv files under slackware? [18:53] i had a really bad experience with their redhat 9, it was unusable [18:53] [cipher], mplayer with codecs [18:53] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:53] mplayer with the essential codecs package can play about anything [18:53] or vlc [18:54] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:54] Pig_Pen, yuck [18:54] <[cipher]> did't works :( [18:54] [cipher], yes, the fluendo guys cell wmv codecs for gstreamer and there is also mplayer with it's codecs [18:54] *sell [18:54] i'm going to laugh about it. i'm military and we'll get stationed overseas. we'll take tax return, "stimulus" check, etc, and be debt-free, while everyone else keeps on crying [18:54] <[cipher]> vlc, will try [18:55] [cipher]: make sure to install alien bob's vlc package [18:55] [cipher]: Alternatively, ffmpeg to convert to ogg/vorbis or mpeg [18:55] that stimulis package is fools gold, it wont solve anything and just put tax payers deeper in to debt [18:55] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.67.229) left irc: Connection timed out [18:55] Nick change: Strykar_ -> Strykar [18:56] Pig_Pen: That's a load. If Americans were concerned about debt, they wouldn't have re-elected bush [18:56] eviljames: if they were concerned about anything for that matter [18:56] most americans dont worry about problems until they actually cause discomfort [18:57] Pig_Pen, i'm a libertarian :) [18:57] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:57] Bugz___ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:57] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [18:57] TwinReverb: libertarianism is especially foolish. [18:58] Bugz__ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:58] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:58] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:58] yay gcc works now [18:58] personally i think the federal government and corporate america is corrupt beyond repair it is going to take a complete economic depression and the US Armed forces to overthrow the feds and start the US government over from scratch to fix anything if it is possible to be fixed, signing away tax dollars is not going to fix anything [18:59] imexius_ (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:59] Pig_Pen, it's the big businesses who control the govenment [18:59] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl84-48.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:59] of course thats why it is going to take BOTH a depression and an overthow [18:59] TwinReverb, and when defence budget gets hit they will dispose of your services [19:00] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:00] Pig_Pen, it happened in the 20's and the same people stayed rich throughout [19:00] Action: nachox thinks this is getting too political for his taste [19:00] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:00] yeah [19:00] but wtvr [19:00] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:01] i am done, it is too frustrating to continue that topic [19:01] thanks [19:01] time for a smoke [19:01] * . [19:01] ~ [19:01] Channel flood from dive -- kicking [19:01] ____[] [19:01] dive kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [19:01] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [19:02] ... [19:02] model name : AMD Phenom(tm) 9850 Quad-Core Processor [19:02] 8 GB of ram [19:02] xD [19:02] dive, you should have had your smoke all in one line [19:02] machines a MONSTER [19:03] Pig_Pen, indeed [19:03] still, nice pipe though I think [19:03] acidchild, only one of those processors? then its a baby monster, the cute one, not the scary one [19:03] nachox: two :-P [19:03] acidchild, what cpu speed is that? [19:04] cpu MHz : 2505.326 [19:04] acidchild, then it is cool, try windows in it :P [19:04] like 8 cores * 2505? [19:04] nachox: haha lol [19:04] nachox: its got ubuntu :| [19:04] u..b..untu.. ? [19:05] What is this devilry? [19:05] :) [19:05] some strange heathen words [19:05] burn the witch! [19:05] burn the priest! [19:05] and actually saying that on SLACKWARE channel? [19:05] no no no [19:05] tntslack (n=will@adsl54-246.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:05] err, wait, no. That's not right. [19:05] not the priest [19:05] acidchild, that sucks mate... [19:06] dive, but i'll be out of debt by then :) [19:06] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [19:06] you hope.. [19:07] anyway we dropped that subject pageup's ago [19:07] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.86.137.86) left irc: "Leaving" [19:07] Probably everyone will be. We'll see some hyperinflation, wages will go through the roof, the value of money will drop to zero and paying off current house debt will only be a few hours labour. [19:07] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [19:07] acidchild, why ubuntu? [19:08] nachox: indeed. [19:08] if it is a server, he kind of needs support, and you get that with either red hat, suse or ubuntu [19:08] i feel so lucky my home is paid for, no mortgage, only utilities to pay for (gas, electric, water, & cable TV, internet, phone) [19:08] and what is it doing, this machine? [19:08] Action: eviljames guesses: serving [19:09] nachox: its a VPS machine.. [19:09] acidchild, running xen? [19:09] kvm [19:10] is it cool? [19:11] it works it seems [19:11] I guess if you ever leave/retire they would need to get support from somewhere... [19:13] its more like, "hey guys this is broken and i have a support contract that says you have to fix it, so come, do" [19:13] i'll just steal it :-P [19:13] _NaCl_ (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [19:13] yeah handy that [19:14] NaCly (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:14] Nick change: _NaCl_ -> NaCly [19:14] acidchild, yes I would [19:15] acidchild: You'll look odd trying to walk out of the office with a 4U server under your shirt... [19:15] but by then let's hope the envelope has been pushed a bit further [19:16] eviljames, nah chuck it on a trolley and ask 'which way to the skip?' [19:16] and divert to car [19:16] let accountants sort out the deficit [19:16] :> [19:17] or replace it with that old 486 that's been sitting in your cupboard for 10 years [19:17] lol wtf [19:17] "Hi, I'm here from Dell to replace this machine, the new one will be arriving shortly. It's ok, I talked to Jim." [19:18] some video about a female alligator doing her mating ritual for garbage trucks.. [19:18] bhodgins, I guess barbage truck small ~= male aligator smell [19:18] eviljames: lol [19:18] well no, its the rumble [19:18] s/barbage/garbage [19:19] sounds like a male alligator, and supposevely her caregivers say she does it every time the garbage truck comes [19:19] what..? the garbage truck cums? [19:19] bhodgins: That poor confused monster.. [19:19] oops [19:19] lmao [19:19] hahaha [19:19] dive: yours was better. [19:20] almost made me breathe in my tea [19:20] this will either be a noobfarm or a ban [19:20] Action: dive waits [19:22] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:23] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:24] uSlacker (n=gmartin@pool-71-185-211-243.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:24] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:24] I was making a slackbuild for figlet.. what a mistake [19:24] no configure, only a makefile [19:25] thought of a patch but then cba [19:26] got a load of errors when cp'ing fonts that xxx is the same file as xxx [19:26] gave up [19:26] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[19:30] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:32] Dammit, Oscar. I told you not to ride in the truck. See what happens? [19:33] and that, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when you try to make a joke while not realizing you're in scrollback buffer. :/ [19:34] didn't you say that last night too? [19:34] Raul_ (n=chatzill@201.160.143.139.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx) joined ##slackware. [19:34] No. Oscar wasn't here last night. [19:35] ;-) [19:35] puchang! [19:35] afk for food :) [19:36] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:37] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.38.138) left irc: "Leaving" [19:38] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "pebkac, id-10-t clicked the X ^_^" [19:38] Ruthven (n=mbutler@adsl-70-234-161-230.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [19:38] Raul_ (n=chatzill@201.160.143.139.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx) left irc: Client Quit [19:38] rworkman, just so you know, you've been noobfarmed [19:40] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:40] I wonder what happens if your nick would actually end in "away" ? [19:40] ie: My name is fadeaway [19:40] Nick change: eviljames -> fadeaway [19:40] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:40] fadeaway kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [19:40] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [19:41] pwned! [19:41] oh. [19:41] That. [19:41] hahaha [19:41] gad [19:41] is there no end [19:41] yes, but what if caps? [19:41] haha [19:41] Good question. [19:41] Nick change: eviljames -> FADEAWAY [19:41] FADEAWAY kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [19:41] I'm not gonna try it, let Mikey try it [19:41] he likes everything [19:41] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [19:42] pwned!^2 [19:42] Well, I think this experiment has been a resounding success. [19:42] Or fail, depending on your perspective. [19:42] Is it against channel policy to tease the bot? [19:42] dunno [19:42] Action: Old_Fogie tazes slackboy [19:42] nope, no ban :) [19:42] Don't slack me, bro! [19:42] hahaha [19:44] does slackboy have a slackgirl? [19:44] me.. only at night... late [19:44] err. i mean... [19:46] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [19:47] mbhayes, around? [19:47] anyone using distcc 3.1 on slackware 12.2? [19:47] i tried to make and make install but it installs to the wrong place [19:47] tribeca (n=naitso@host250-29-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ciao alla prossima" [19:48] ./configure --prefix=/path/where/you/want/it/installed [19:48] and i really don't know enough about it to make it install in the correct place? [19:48] nachox: for a short time.. what's up? [19:48] oh [19:48] define 'wrong place' [19:48] mbhayes, the queue in noobfarm is broken? i added something but the queue counter doesnt increase [19:48] or look in the Makefile for $PREFIX and set the path where you want it [19:49] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:49] er.. [19:49] it's usually /usr or /usr/local both will work [19:49] nachox: I don't see anything in the queue... [19:49] is noobfarm working then? :) [19:50] i don't know [19:50] i just installed it [19:50] you dont install anything not bundled with the os in /usr [19:50] nachox: yeah it is... [19:50] and it went into /usr/local/sbin (if i remember correctly). then i would try to run distcc and i get the error that /usr/bin/distcc can't be found [19:50] oh [19:51] so probably just something left over from the package that installed with slack [19:51] i'll try again, rworkman doesnt seem to want to appear in noobfarm :P [19:51] edman007|work (n=edman007@ool-44c286d0.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:53] mbhayes, can you make a text only version of capcha please - it's annoying in elinks [19:53] for noobfarm [19:53] dive: nope.. sorry if I get rid of that captcha javascript will replace it [19:53] bah [19:53] however, I am working on an alternative [19:53] but its not on my immediate TODO list [19:53] back later [19:53] dive, if kind of defeats the purpose of captcha [19:53] when i run distcc, no matter what the local directory (with the exception of the directory the executable is actually in) it trys to run distcc from /usr/bin, which is not where make install puts it [19:53] registration? [19:53] nachox, I know I was being ironic [19:54] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:54] mbhayes, resistration once with capcha, login without it [19:54] oh.. irony doesnt travel through irc [19:54] most of the time anyway [19:54] yes it does [19:55] try it [19:55] gad I'm out of beer [19:56] QWonder, the command # echo $PATH <--- shows you what your path is. As a normal user, yes you want have /usr/local/sbin in your path. Regarding adding software to /usr/bin not by Slackware, errr... dunno what nachox meant there, I mean SBo, and other's use the /usr/bin as default location for add on software to a Slack install. [19:57] eh,,..messed taht up [19:57] or pwd [19:57] you messed that up too [19:57] you dont have /usr/local/sbin in your $PATH [19:57] oh that path.. [19:57] :P [19:57] Old_Fogie, /opt is there for unbundled software [19:58] nachox, unbundled? [19:58] why the hell would distcc want to go in somewhere like /usr/local/sbin/ anyway? [19:58] dive, red hat [19:58] gads [19:58] Old_Fogie, think gnome packages [19:58] euzao (i=1000@189.38.157.137) joined ##slackware. [19:59] euzao (i=1000@189.38.157.137) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:59] why not just build from source & package the old fashioned way, or use a slackbuild and build a package, do you HAVE to do it with distcc? [20:00] distcc is usuful when the target machine is slow [20:00] I would *never* install in opt for all my packages, that's insane. What is the point? System upgrade? When you build an app, it *sees* your current system libraries anyhow. It see's your present /etc anyhow. Throwing it in opt is just e-tarded. Slackware's pkgtool will see that it's not part of the distro anyhow on sys upgrade. Again, the package in /opt is linked anyway. It makes no diff. [20:00] oh, thanks [20:00] Old_Fogie: Go look at Request Tracker. You either have to install it in /usr/rt3 or /opt/rt3. [20:00] remembers when both kde and gnome-1.4 was installed in /opt [20:01] yeah, it mentions something about redhat during ./configure [20:01] Old_Fogie, read the damn standard, what you said makes NO sense at all [20:01] cuba (n=cuba@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) joined ##slackware. [20:01] slackbuilds doesn't have distcc [20:01] nachox, it makes perfect sense. [20:01] I hate /opt, but some prefer it [20:01] well, i'm really just learning about all of this [20:01] is it possible that after installation there is no .bashrc / .profile / .bash+profile in my ~/ ?? [20:01] but i'm hoping it's going to be useful [20:02] considering the target machine is my laptop and it's going on four years old [20:02] it is probably because the package you want to build is not distcc friendly or your missing some parameter [20:02] can't see the point of /opt myself but... [20:02] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] /opt is for self contained software, that has its own subset of dirs such as /bin, /lib, etc [20:02] and i have a couple of ~3 y/o xeon servers in the other room not doing anything [20:02] it makes *zero* sense for items that you are "localy" compiling. if we're talking 3rd party...binary redistribution, that is an entirely different story. [20:02] so i figured i would see if they'd help speed up compiling xmbc [20:03] ^^nachox [20:03] ananke, right on. [20:03] Pig_Pen: no, i'm actually trying to build distcc, not use it [20:03] i'm not that far yet [20:04] People saying "dont compile and build and install to the /usr/bin /etc are misguided [20:04] QWonder : the hell with distcc. try icecream [20:04] Old_Fogie: Hey, download RT and see if you can get it to compile into the correct directories. Or if you have a better place for it other than OPT. it pretty much forces it in one specific location only as far as i could tell. If you get a different result (if you try) let me know. [20:04] hey, why is there none of these files in default installation ? [20:05] agentc0re, then you hack the makefiles, or you yell at upstream to follow the standard linux file system format, or just don't use. that's that. [20:05] RT fits like a charm into /opt [20:05] ananke, i want icecream!! [20:05] ananke: Exactly. [20:06] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.89) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:06] icecream now [20:06] If putting all *new* added software to a system, was to be in /opt ; then every time Mr. V adds a new package, like wicd (or name any new app since 12.1 in 12.2 now) then they'd be in "/opt" ; that's just wrong. That's not what the spec means. [20:06] ananke: I'm okay with it there, but it would be better if you could separate it. Either way, i have no preference one way or the other. [20:06] Action: agentc0re is off to drink [20:07] well /opt seems a bit like Program\ Files to me - either you want installs to go in there own /opt dir or all togeher in /bin /lib etc [20:07] dive: no.. [20:08] If opt were like program files..most everything would be in there [20:08] dive, an app like openoffice goes to /opt ; an app like distcc goes to the system. [20:08] well yeah - so why do some use it and others not? [20:08] dive, what do you mean? [20:08] people? [20:09] I mean we have local to keep stuff separate - why /opt too? [20:09] Action: ananke has no clue what dive is talking about [20:10] i think he means..what it the guideline for putting an app in opt as opposed to /bin or whatever [20:10] Old_Fogie, slackware patches do go in /usr!! [20:10] nachox, ? [20:10] some software you compile goes into /usr/local some goes into /opt [20:10] dive: nothing should be going in to /usr/local [20:10] yuck, nothing should to go /usr/local [20:11] and things only go in opt when you tell them to [20:11] I know [20:11] dive, that's typically becuase the app didn't honor you saying ./configure --prefix=/usr . [20:11] but that seems to be default with most sw [20:11] dive : stuff that goes to /opt prefers to be self-contained [20:11] if you don't set prefix that's where it will go [20:12] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:12] dive, Slackware is ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --mandir=/usr/man --datadir=/usr/lib --docdir=/usr/doc <--That's what you use for compiling on Slackware. If something installs elsewhere and you ran that, then the software (in an ideal world) should be patched/fixed upstream to accomodate what you're telling it to do. [20:12] Nothing wrong with installing to /usr/local - lots of "admins" find ways to fsck it up though. [20:12] ;l [20:13] Old_Fogie, yes I know that, but read most makefiles and the default is /usr/local [20:13] As ananke said earlier, /opt is generally for self-contained and/or very large software suites that you might want to keep, well, self-contained. [20:13] /usr/local is a linux construct, it was not part of any standard till lfhs came out, now it basically has to comply with the rules the old /opt had [20:13] Old_Fogie: --docdir=/usr/doc/$app-$version [20:13] dive, something like the binary redistribution packaged into Slackware format from SBo : adobe reader, googleearth, picasa, openoffice. All are binary , self contained. They go in /opt. [20:13] Old_Fogie, all I'm asking is 'why' that is so [20:13] rworkman, correct thank you. [20:13] Old_Fogie: also note that quite a few apps don't respect or even support docdir flag [20:14] you can also move all openoffice things to /usr/lib/openoffice and it will still work fine [20:14] dive, well BSD's and some linux's use /usr/local [20:14] rworkman, right, I was just trying to give as much as possible [20:14] thrice`, yup [20:14] dive, /usr/local is used as default as tradition more than anything. Historically /usr/local was the directory that all things installed to the local machine went, as /usr itself could be mounted over the network. So without knowing anything else about the system, /usr/local is generally a safe bet in terms of the installation actually working when it is done. [20:15] In theory, firefox should be in /opt [20:15] Slack doesnt build it. It's self contained. [20:15] not really [20:15] Old_Fogie: disagree, since most people build from source [20:15] it IS part of the os [20:15] thrice`, FF? [20:15] well, most distros [20:15] MS3FGX, thanks that is the kind of answer I was hoping for :-) [20:15] Ultimately, what goes where is up to the distributor and then the admin. [20:15] nachox, no it's not. it comes with Slackware,but it's a binary repack [20:15] it doesnt matter [20:16] QWonder (n=QW@c-71-203-15-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:16] sure it does. that is what /opt is for. self contained. [20:16] You'll note, I said in theory. I could care less, I build my own anyhow. [20:16] no, no. if it comes with the os, then it doesnt go in /opt [20:16] nachox, ever see KDE in Slack 10.2 or 11 days [20:17] in /opt [20:17] was once [20:17] there goes your comment :) [20:17] i didnt say slackware was compliant with any standard, did i? [20:17] nachox, I'm sorry but you're confuse (and I mean that humbly) read above for what we said /opt is for. [20:18] i know what /opt is, trust me [20:18] sQuEE (n=narya@host211.201-253-131.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:18] I don't. [20:18] if kde goes in /opt in slackware, then it's wrong, it should go into /usr/bin and /usr/lib/kde [20:19] Well it does now. It was in /opt in earlier releases. [20:19] from a compliance point of view i mean [20:19] nachox, it does now, it wasn't always that way. [20:19] yes, i remember it was in /opt [20:19] it's completely up to the maintainer [20:19] openoffice in slackware would go in /opt for example [20:20] correct [20:20] sun studio too [20:20] if Pat thought kde is huge and desserves to go into /opt, then it's correct [20:20] I think /usr/libexec/ should be in $PATH [20:20] imo [20:20] fun with screensavers [20:20] they are self contained and are not part of the os [20:20] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.21.217) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:20] thrice`, agreed, it's his baby no argument there. that's why I dont bitch about FF, but in _theory_ it should be /opt [20:20] I agree that it *could* go into /opt, but should is up to him :) [20:20] thrice`, right on [20:21] 01:15 < rworkman> Ultimately, what goes where is up to the distributor and then the admin. [20:21] :) [20:21] http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=falun+gong [20:21] (NSFC) [20:21] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.21.217) joined ##slackware. [20:21] Not safe for church? [20:21] Chinese :P [20:21] ah [20:21] 01:15 < rworkman> Ultimately, what goes where is up to the distributor and then the admin. :) with final approval from the grumpy Old_Fogie [20:21] ^^ yup [20:22] hahah [20:22] rworkman, of course :) i meant that if the packager wanted to follow the standards then it should do... all that other crap [20:22] I still don't know why he's building distcc tho, that's odd. [20:23] cos he wants to build something on a slow laptop that might build faster if he utilised some other machines too [20:23] or at least his laptop wouldn't melt ;) [20:23] mine goes like 90 degs with compiling [20:24] thats... bad [20:24] I read the changelog, there is some fixes that might be of use and all. But I've had good experience so far with distcc on 12.2. And I have some pretty good grep srcipts for errors, built about 2000 packages that way so far at least with what's on 12.2 [20:25] mth- (i=1000@200-126-70-175.bk5-dsl.surnet.cl) joined ##slackware. [20:26] rworkman, btw that rdiff-backup, that's the cat's meow there. Just what a slacker with a buildsystem needs. I think it's getting me excited :) [20:27] rworkman, it's like lightening on antiques, and knows how to handle binaries just fine. It's bascially going by file and folder access time in conjustion with file hashes. Very good rollback to whenever you want. [20:27] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-153.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [20:28] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-153.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Client Quit [20:29] rworkman, you don't get to do 'changelog' text file edits such as a mercurial, but you get a list of files and folders that did change, which you could pass to the terminal, and paste into your changelog.txt. which for my needs is just fine. 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[21:34] ceiling fan [21:34] just got out of a busy day at work [21:34] haha [21:34] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.21.217) left irc: ":wq" [21:35] I'm allergic to something at work, I get as bad as seemingly having a cold every time I get out, I work only once a week [21:35] but I've never had allergies [21:35] they moved pretty half of the call center to one client due to the backup of calls [21:35] next day im back and im fine [21:35] lol [21:36] Fenix-Dark (n=scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [21:36] but yeah working on this client today I see just how people are at least some people they are very paranoid about their information being sold off and such [21:37] lol [21:38] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [21:38] focus following mouse is nice, takes a while to get used to again [21:38] hba (n=hba@189.188.156.180) joined ##slackware. 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[22:11] No [22:11] or better: let the driver make its own xorg.conf [22:11] I just use the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.29-pkg1.run [22:11] I did [22:13] it doesn't draw anything when screensaver starts? maybe it's a [22:13] It used to work fine [22:13] blank screen screen saver [22:13] :P [22:14] Well, I have to change of terminals with Alt+F6, Alt+F7 to restore the desktop [22:15] find "nv" in xorg.conf, and change it for "nvidia" [22:17] I did [22:17] "n" didn't work [22:17] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [22:17] I mean, "nv" [22:18] he meant find "nv". erase "nv". put "nvidia" where "nv" used to be. [22:18] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. [22:18] antler: hmm it does sound like a blank screen that;s how my system screen saver is setup [22:19] but it should already be 'nvidia' if you used the nvidia-xconfigure (or something like that) [22:19] invitado: is the module loaded? does the driver work? do you see an nvidia splash screen before x is loaded? [22:20] kitche: heheh [22:20] Yes, it is loaded [22:20] I see the splash screen} [22:21] what does glxinfo |grep direct say? [22:21] direct rendering: Yes [22:21] GL_EXT_direct_state_access, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, [22:22] And that's all [22:22] have you tried changing screensaver? what's the fps when you do glxgears? [22:23] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.67.229) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:23] Segmentation fault [22:23] what? when you do gears? [22:23] Yes [22:24] bash-3.1$ glxgears [22:24] Segmentation fault [22:24] glxinfo |grep rendering [22:24] nm [22:24] Nothing [22:24] heh [22:24] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [22:25] you need accel [22:25] wait, nothing at all!? [22:25] if glxgears is segmentation faulting then you have a really horrible install I believe [22:25] ldd /usr/bin/glxgears [22:25] wow, what kind of video card? [22:25] Oh, crap! [22:25] :-( [22:25] have you tried making a new xorg.conf? i would probably telinit 3, remove existing xorg.conf, and run nvidia-xconfig just to see [22:25] 00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7000M (rev a2) (rev a2) [22:26] From lspci [22:26] telinit 3? why not just ctrl alt f1? [22:26] hm, is that the right driver for that card? [22:27] you have a notebook invitado? [22:27] clijunkie (i=pberry@67.223.226.64) joined ##slackware. [22:27] Yes [22:28] A Compaq... [22:28] I don't remember de model [22:29] The LCD panel says: "Presario F700" [22:29] well that's supported under the 180 series of driver so it should work [22:30] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:32] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-195.dial.telus.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:32] Oh [22:32] tuvok302-a (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-162.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:32] Nick change: tuvok302-a -> tuvok302 [22:32] Let me do the xorgconfig operation... [22:32] BRB... [22:32] invitado (n=invitado@189.188.199.250) left irc: "Leaving" [22:34] pattwo (n=admin@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] bad experience with compaq notebook. mine died a month after warranty. called compaq. the said, "that's tough." [22:36] granted that was about 10 years ago [22:37] I used to have to compaq armada E500s .. rather nice ;) [22:38] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@186.66.74.67) joined ##slackware. [22:39] hi folks, how i can set an action for a key combinations? [22:39] slaxxin (n=brian@ip72-204-125-6.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:39] ovnicraft: check xbindkeys. [22:39] omg, my intertubes are dead :( [22:40] exactly, i want to set to fn+f2, xrandr --output VGA --auto [22:40] Action: edman007 cries [22:40] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [22:40] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [22:40] edman007, thx [22:40] Action: antler hands edman007 a tiss-seeyou [22:41] --- Ping reply from slackboy : 247.71 second(s) [22:41] i think its back now.... [22:41] :o [22:41] your ping took a vacation [22:41] man, i want to get out of this place and have real internets [22:42] o_O? [22:42] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-190-203.epm.net.co) left irc: "leaving" [22:43] Action: edman007 is dorming with school internet...they fail [22:43] but i only got a few months, so its not all bad... [22:44] edman007, which school? [22:44] hiptobecubic, http://nyit.edu/ [22:45] they have a terribly shitty network [22:45] how ironic [22:45] hiptobecubic, my prof want me to vpn to the school vpn server, they blocked the ports... [22:46] haha nice [22:47] hiptobecubic, yea, they made some very very bad network decesions, and i don' [22:47] hiptobecubic, yea, they made some very very bad network decisions, and i don't know how they screwed it up [22:48] my school blocks different services depending if you use wireless or wired [22:48] uva (i=bono@118-168-239-78.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:48] hiptobecubic, basically the require a user/pass to go on the internet, but you have free access to the network, so just mitm when you need a pass, nobody can tell anyways because they don't have a real cert for the auth server or a hostname [22:48] you can't use port 6665-9 (irc) on wireless, but you can't use googletalk on wired [22:48] they give all students ssh to the production webserver... [22:49] and all ports but aim and wow are blocked outbound... [22:49] wow is understandable [22:49] that can't be right [22:49] lol [22:49] you have to use their proxy which is broken and breaks many protocols [22:49] nooper, i think dota works too... [22:50] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "life in the rear view mirror" [22:50] you can't ssh home and tunnel or something? [22:50] but i wouldn't play it, because i can't get a ping better than 50-100ms for across the hall [22:50] hiptobecubic, thats how i irc.... [22:50] i run everything but web over ssh [22:50] you can tunnel everything can you not? right. [22:50] over the pop port (thats open, but not imap or smtp) [22:51] so as long as you aren't gaming you're good to go [22:51] hiptobecubic, yea, but their proxy is slightly faster than sshing through the network to a server with a consumer cable modem [22:51] --- Ping reply from hiptobecubic : 1.02 second(s) [22:51] :( [22:51] i ssh to my server with a consumer cable modem and i can get some pretty rad speeds [22:52] Ping reply from edman007: 0.84 second(s) [22:52] seems to be faster from me to you :D [22:53] esom (i=esom@58.47.105.84) joined ##slackware. [22:53] :( [22:53] esom (i=esom@58.47.105.84) left irc: Client Quit [22:55] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:56] anybody have java rep? [22:56] How do I split a large file with the DD command? [22:57] with the split command [22:57] man split [22:57] dd has nothing to do with splitting large files [22:58] I need to split it on Windows and merge it on Linux. [22:58] lol [22:58] im sure you can use dd and some wild long shell script with loops to split it [22:58] better ask in a Windoze channel then [22:58] bono (i=bono@220-136-224-252.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:59] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:00] hba (n=hba@189.188.156.180) left irc: "leaving" [23:01] yesyes (n=yesyes@bb-87-81-97-91.ukonline.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:01] yea, you could do it with dd, but thats stupid [23:04] anyways, to do it with dd -> i=0 while [ 1 ] ; do dd if=inFile of=of$i bs=1M count=50 skip=`expr $i * 50` ; i=`expr $i + 1`; done [23:05] ...or something like that... [23:06] i'm not going to test it, because running it is stupid, it is however ok if i just write it [23:06] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl84-48.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:06] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:07] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [23:08] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:10] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-94.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:10] I'm wanting to back up my entire home directory. Can I tar it will I'm logged in? [23:11] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [23:11] Like, will it be a problem that applications are running and possibly using files in my home directory while I tar it? [23:11] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:14] nathanbw, you could...but i would expect it to be minimal (FF/thunderbird and the like may be exceptions) [23:15] Cool. So the difficulties would potentially be just having incomplete copies of files in use? [23:16] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [23:17] cat greeting >/dev/nullboy [23:18] meep [23:19] o_O [23:27] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-153.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [23:27] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-153.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Client Quit [23:28] theoffset (n=ismael@201-130-230-208-cable.cybercable.net.mx) joined ##slackware. [23:28] fucking alarm didnt go off [23:28] grah [23:29] cell phone ftw [23:29] I set my alarm clock + cell phone alarm [23:29] hehe [23:29] me too [23:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:29] i set 3 alarms in my cell 30 mins apart [23:30] yeah except i was 48 hours awake and didnt have the sense of mind to do anything other than press alarm set before i fell asleep [23:31] heh [23:31] nullboy, i do that too... [23:31] i would do more, but my phone only supports 3... [23:31] same here [23:32] why do they discontinue the good phones? [23:32] in use to have the e815 and i loved it, then it broke and i tried to buy the same one, and they had nothing like it... [23:32] my alarm clock radio has a nice big snooze button, and doesnt stop until its run for an hour straight [23:33] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:33] almost all phones have the screen on the front now, with the buttons out so i can't fold em [23:33] the stop alarm button is tiny and unable to be turned off until you're awake [23:33] and the interface got super suckey [23:33] QWonder (n=QW@c-71-203-15-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:33] what you need is a briefcase cell phone [23:34] spook, last time i had a real alarm clock i ended up hooking it up to an amp to give it some power... [23:34] that woke up everyone... [23:34] and after a week i started waking up before the alarm! [23:34] i have a slide phone, button sucks and the screen has a diagonal crack in it where blue stuff has leaked out then dried sealing the crack [23:35] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:35] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [23:35] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:35] my alarm clock's volume is measured on screen from 0 to 32. 32 can be heard clearly from anywhere in the house. [23:37] my jedi robe from thinkgeek arrived today. had a conversation with the delivery guy about our long hair. he had hair as long as ours [23:37] as mine :P [23:37] spook, heh, my old phone had raised buttons and when texting it supported auto completing the words, my current phone (which is much newer) has buttons that are all flat with tiny bumps at the bottom of the keys, so you can't center you fingers on the button by feeling it, and the auto predict takes the most common word with buttons pressed in that order [23:38] spook: Jedi robes don't entitle you to use the royal We. [23:38] so with the auto predict if you want to use it you have to type such that the word you are typing does not show on the screen [23:38] jkwood: lol. [23:39] edman007: mine seems to choose the least used word to display when using "quick english" [23:40] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: "BitchX WWW Site -- http://we.got.net/~brian/" [23:41] yesyes (n=yesyes@bb-87-81-97-91.ukonline.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [23:42] how dare joz use bitchx and not irssi [23:43] that is sacralidge...did I spell that right? [23:45] pirving: we got what you meant [23:45] eww [23:45] Action: edman007 hugs his xchat [23:46] Action: NaCly also uses xchat [23:46] Action: spook thinks you are all cretins for not using irssi [23:46] Action: spook loads the frozen eel cannon... [23:46] You already fired it once yesterday. [23:46] ewl (n=ewl@pool-151-203-80-223.bos.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:47] will mirc work in wine? [23:47] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:47] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:47] yeah well yesterday i also said "take that, logic" after firing it [23:49] In #wicd? [23:49] Action: spook shrugs [23:49] nobody knows if mirc works, I guess who cares, but it would be cool [23:49] dont make me shoot history [23:49] maybe I should try it. I'm downloading chrome with crossover right now] [23:49] pirving: .... [23:49] pirving: check http://appdb.winehq.org [23:49] i have gta3 in wine [23:50] nullboy, sweet. Did you get it through steam? (I saw the gta series was on steam recently) [23:50] what is gta? [23:50] grand torismo? [23:50] Grand Theft Auto [23:50] get titty ass [23:50] is it a legal copy? [23:51] ewl (n=ewl@pool-151-203-80-223.bos.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Will the REAL Slim BitchX please stand up?" [23:52] spook: Where do you get the frozen eel, anyway? [23:52] ewl (n=ewl@pool-151-203-80-223.bos.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] ewl (n=ewl@pool-151-203-80-223.bos.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:54] sidmario_ (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:54] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:56] hologram (n=hologram@ip68-228-57-91.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:57] I about to reformat the ntfs partition (changing it to ext3) which is on my only internal hdd (/dev/sda). Do I need to boot the system from a liveCD to edit the partition table to change the type of /dev/sda3 to ext before formatting? [23:57] Right now, / is mounted on /dev/sda1 [23:58] ewl (n=ewl@pool-151-203-80-223.bos.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:58] so, If I have to edit the partition table, I think I'll need to not be running the current system? [23:59] Jimmen (n=Devilman@host186-170-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [00:00] --- Wed Feb 18 2009