[00:00] clijunkie: it should cure after some time [00:00] NaCl: So far I've had to do this 1 or twice a year. [00:01] wow. [00:01] I don't even really run it that hard. I use a minimal wm and nothing real big but firefox [00:03] raela (1000@cpe-67-241-25-44.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:03] probably the lappy has poor thermal control [00:03] test34- (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [00:03] psYcker_ (~psy@201.156.108.196) joined ##slackware. [00:04] macius (~macius@209.195.94.119) joined ##slackware. [00:04] or just poorly designed, I've seen some of those [00:04] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [00:04] raelakoira (1000@cpe-67-241-25-44.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [00:04] psYcker (~psy@201.156.108.196) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [00:04] zux (~zux@balticom-130-134.balticom.lv) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [00:04] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [00:04] zux (~zux@balticom-130-134.balticom.lv) joined ##slackware. [00:06] Probably both. Aside from the heat I've had no issue in 4 years, so all in all, can't complain. [00:06] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [00:07] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:08] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.63.127) joined ##slackware. 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[00:45] SlashQuit (~SlashQuit@c-76-25-54-227.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:50] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:51] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:53] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:54] oh, work backups are freaking out too. ain't it just my night. [00:54] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [00:57] tuvok302Lappy (Nancy@clgrtnt7-port-31.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [01:00] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [01:04] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-208-51.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:08] macius_ (~macius@i209-195-85-105.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [01:08] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. [01:09] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. 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I turned off my screensaver, since someone here said that might be causing it, but it still crashed. [01:57] I am becoming very angry at my computer. [01:57] Waking up to a terminal saying "Oh look, KDE couldn't stay up for more than 24 hours!" *every morning* is not very fun. [01:57] yeah, i bet that is pretty frustrating [01:58] i don't use kde, but i do use the kde apps and they all seem to be very buggy [01:58] hopefully it will be more stable in the next slackware [01:58] I've been using KDE for some years now and my home computer pretty much stays logged in as me [01:58] last logout/reboot (except this mornings update to -current) typically runs in the months/years [01:59] I love the crap out of Slackware, but god, I wish it wasn't so heavy on the KDE applications. [01:59] yeah, i've had to find lighter weight replacements for all the kde apps i used to use [02:00] i think i will just uninstall all the kde packages now that i discovered that the kde daemons and stuff never quit and just hog memory [02:00] Even when I use the other window managers (or XFCE) that are packaged with it, I may as well just be running KDE, because the KDE applications I have to run basically drag the rest of KDE along with it. [02:00] which ones do you use, vede ? [02:01] Anything that is packaged with Slackware. [02:01] oh [02:01] There's a truckload of text editors for KDE, then some CLI ones and Mousepad. [02:01] It seems to be like that with everything. [02:01] i was just hooked on k3b and kpdf mostly, so it was not that hard for me to transition away i guess [02:02] The only audio player of any quality with Slackware is Amarok, which means it starts running, essentially, *all of KDE* in the background. [02:04] oh, i had to ditch that too [02:04] i was really attached to it, but amarok2 was too disgusting for me [02:05] i use moc now, but its not quite the same :-P [02:06] sahk0 (~sahk0@188.4.210.206.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:06] sahk0 (~sahk0@188.4.210.206.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Changing host [02:06] sahk0 (~sahk0@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [02:07] And it always seems to crash after the same amount of uptime. [02:08] It only crashes overnight. [02:09] I restart X in the morning after resisting the urge to just toss my computer out the window, go to school, (it doesn't crash for the 8-9 hours I spend at school), come home, and then in the 5-6 hours I spend sleeping, it crashes. [02:09] zux1wrk (~zux@80.232.209.242) joined ##slackware. [02:09] It's like it constantly crashes at the 20-hour mark or something. [02:09] i guess if you can't fix it then you have to either jump up to -current or try the kde 3.5 packages that i heard are still available [02:09] I have -current [02:09] I switched to -current in an attempt to stop the crashes. [02:10] oh, rats [02:14] consistent crashes may also indicate hardware failure [02:14] sahk0 (~sahk0@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:17] Possibly, but I'd rather not think about that right now. :P [02:17] :) [02:17] hardware failure around now would probably mean no computer for a number of years. [02:18] when was the last time you gave your machine a looking to? Dust it out and look at the caps? [02:18] Couple months ago. [02:18] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [02:19] Actually, I have this top-of-the-line Compaq Presario 1250 from like 1998. [02:20] have you noticed a trend as far as what appears to crash it? [02:20] I'm asleep when it crashes. [02:20] well, compaq is not known for quality :) [02:20] check your crash logs? [02:20] syslog? [02:20] And from what I can tell (I can see the terminal with the crash info when I wake up), random things crash with error number 11. [02:20] Axius (~hi@92.84.27.141) joined ##slackware. [02:21] check your ram [02:21] Rat409 (~me@bb-205-209-66-99.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [02:23] I was thinking if, maybe, something (perhaps KDE doing its own screensaver thing, because me changing the settings for KDE is futile) was happening at night that was just going insane on my RAM and running other (more important) programs out of memory. [02:25] Well, but that wouldn't make sense since it only crashes at night. [02:26] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:28] error 11 is listed as resource temporarily unavailable - so that could be ram or drive [02:28] or swap [02:30] *sigh* And now tty1 is covered in XSyncBadAlarm errors. [02:30] I hate this. [02:31] well, first thing I can think of is "compaq" since I've been running slackware (and kde) for many years now without those issues [02:31] so unless you're running 3rd party software that is really bad, the only thing I can think of would be hardware or not enough ram/swap [02:31] Oh I'm not using a Compaq now. [02:32] I have an actually decent desktop. [02:32] packard bell? :-D [02:32] doh! [02:33] I was just saying the *alternative* was a Presario 1250 (32MB RAM, ~160MHz CPU, 3GB HD, FTW). [02:34] I have 2GB RAM, and a 4GB swap, so if I'm being run out of RAM, then something is going insanely wrong. [02:35] did you try a clean install of -current? [02:35] Yep. [02:35] About three or four times, actually. [02:35] any extra software outside of -current? [02:35] None before the crashes started. [02:36] And even then, the only extra software I can think of that I have right now is VLC. [02:36] upgrade or fresh install ? maybe need to delete the .kde files left over from prior version ? [02:37] fhobia, I formatted the partition and reinstalled with -current. [02:37] There were no leftover files. [02:37] drat [02:37] back to hardware issues then [02:38] I guess tomorrow I'll get to hacking this thing apart and cleaning/checking. [02:39] firefox mem leak maybe. all i can think of [02:40] I have firefox and flash running all of the time and don't have that issue [02:40] It happens even when I don't leave Firefox open. [02:40] It happens with nothing but KDE running, actually. [02:40] also have huludesktop running as well [02:41] wow strange prob [02:42] Also I can't turn off monitor power-saving. [02:42] No matter what, it just isn't going to happen, apparently. [02:43] I checked BIOS, I checked the KDE settings, everything says power saving is disabled. [02:43] But my monitor still goes to standby after twenty minutes all the time. [02:43] check your monitor -might be a monitor setting [02:44] Axius (~hi@92.84.27.141) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:44] sahk0 (~sahk0@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [02:44] I don't believe my monitor has a built-in power-saving function. [02:44] also, might be part of /etc/rc.d/rc.M "setterm -blank .." setting [02:44] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [02:45] [OpenSys] (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:45] [OpenSys] (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [02:47] Ah! Yep, there was a setterm -blank 15 yadda yadda in there. [02:47] Augh. I gotta sleep now. [02:48] yuh mines stock no probs but [02:48] vede (joshua@wsip-174-79-147-235.tu.ok.cox.net) left ##slackware ("*thud*"). [02:54] alisonken1noc: huludesktop,you used the rpm? [02:54] rpm2tgz [02:54] yup cool [02:54] then mod the /usr/share/application/huludesktop.desktop to conform to kde 4.x workability [02:55] sweet, thanks! [02:56] very cool app,can't believe i forgot seeing it. [02:56] it still has occasional burps, but it's still nice [02:57] Axtroz (~metalgrid@77.78.15.8) joined ##slackware. [02:58] indeed [02:58] Axtroz (metalgrid@77.78.15.8) left ##slackware. [03:01] well i'm out have a good one. thanks for the head's up alisonken1noc ! appreciate it. night [03:01] Rat409 (me@bb-205-209-66-99.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Pekwm! it ain't your grandma's wm :)"). [03:02] qwer (madtop@c-24-14-243-237.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [03:03] SIGBUS_ (~gh@forkbomb.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:03] sahk0 (~sahk0@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:03] iniusman (~iniusman@202.93.37.88) joined ##slackware. [03:05] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:06] iniusman (iniusman@202.93.37.88) left ##slackware. [03:08] SIGBUS_ (~gh@forkbomb.nl) joined ##slackware. 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[04:06] arghh i broke something [04:09] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [04:09] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [04:12] haqe17_: What are you umounting? [04:13] slackie (~x@87-196-37-93.net.novis.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:15] slackie (~x@87-196-82-17.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [04:20] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.212.59) joined ##slackware. [04:20] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [04:23] lf4, i think he say'd clearly, he is trying to umount "freeze" [04:23] whatever that means... [04:23] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.22.42) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [04:25] zoran119 (~zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [04:25] gui_ap (~guilherme@189.111.34.107) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:25] zux1wrk: lol oh yeah your right. [04:27] freeze might be a directory name where he mounts some stuff... [04:27] or a horse [04:29] zecafig (~zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) joined ##slackware. [04:32] if it's a horse, then this is the right choice: is it safe to kill and try again? [04:32] sacrifice always works [04:35] horse | make > glue [04:35] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [04:38] in xlock. if I lock my computer using that, its easy for someone to just switch to tty1 and kill x window. how can I prevent that? [04:39] zoran119 (~zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:39] or anything else I can use to lock screen? [04:39] im using openbox [04:40] psYcker_ (~psy@201.156.108.196) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:40] migue (~mconca@200.5.217.87) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:41] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [04:42] Kowalczyk, use init 4 maybe instead of 3, then if somone kills X it will just start right up again. [04:42] im starting x via startx [04:42] not kdm,gdm,xdm and so on [04:42] so change [04:43] I want to start x via startx.. dont like the graphical login :) [04:43] I'm only aware of xlock and xcreensaver -lock. Both will have that problem. [04:47] ok. hmm [04:49] s/xcreensaver/xscreensaver/ [04:49] zecafig (~zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) left irc: Quit: RED PILL OR DIE! [05:02] Axius (~fd@92.84.20.215) joined ##slackware. [05:06] GOD DAMN POWER-CUTS!!! [05:11] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [05:12] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) joined ##slackware. [05:14] Nick change: sirslacker -> sirslacker|busy [05:20] correcaminos (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [05:21] correcaminos (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Client Quit [05:24] Axius (~fd@92.84.20.215) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [05:25] kethry_ (~kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. 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[05:39] lack of package management dependancy checking is a feauture not downside/fault of slackware say the mentally challenged linux Slackware bitches. Linux is for bitches and dumb ones at that. [05:39] OpenBSD blackhole.earthlink.net 4.6 ejeet2#0 i386 [05:40] so sweet to be using OpenBSD which has portage [05:40] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [05:41] try installing something like calibre (ebook management software) with all its dependancies on slackware by hand and then try to tell me lack of dependency checking and installing things by hand isn't mentally retarded [05:41] or after about your twentieth average package install [05:41] it becomes retarded [05:41] you slackware users ate too many lead chips as babies [05:41] that is why you are so mentally retarded [05:43] installing something like calibre can be done on slackware but the time and effort one has to put into it is stupid [05:44] slackware is just a wannabe BSD anyway. There is no reason to use slackware over FreeBSD unless 1.) you are a retarded communist or 2.) you are too stupid to realize that there is no reason to use slackware over FreeBSD [05:45] j0z (~lhp@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: [05:46] unless you need some shitty inferior crappy drivers for some shitty cheap inferior computer component you bought at walmart that doesn't exist for the BSDs because your IQs are so low you can't get real good jobs to afford quality workstation hardware and peripherals [05:46] j0z (~lhp@189.58.11.153) joined ##slackware. [05:46] j0z (~lhp@189.58.11.153) left irc: Changing host [05:46] j0z (~lhp@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [05:47] then of course you use inferiro shoddy linux deriver written by some pimple faced linux retarded bitch in his mother's basement [05:47] s/inferiro/inferior/ [05:47] s/deriver/driver/ [05:49] shyko (~shyko@187.39.212.183) joined ##slackware. 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[06:01] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:01] not really [06:03] Nick change: rapid_ -> rapiud [06:03] Nick change: rapiud -> rapid [06:04] but then again I can go stand at the edge of a forest and shout bullshit all I want. It will not effect anymore [06:04] anyone [06:05] Well, I guess his therapist told him he needed to get it off his chest. [06:05] i have a strange problem with xfce logout options , all these days i were able to hibernate /shutdown / reboot / whatever with those, few seconds ago it just got disabled , i'm wondering what must have happened. [06:06] btw i'm also a member of power [06:06] jonsmith1982 (~jon@cpc2-donc1-0-0-cust57.barn.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:06] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:06] actually: he managed to go on for aboiut 15 minutes without anyone writing anything ;p [06:07] and there is the fact his great OpenBSD with portage. Well hate to tell him but it seems portage came from a linux project and was ported to OpenBSD [06:07] I definitely was not going to discuss with him :) [06:07] yea Camarade_Tux I pu tthat up to most of the regs here are sleeping. [06:08] doesn't it use ports? I know there are ports for fbsd and netbsd, not sure about openbsd but that seems more logical [06:08] maybe we should be very very quiet so as not to wake the wabbits [06:08] panzer: hehe ;-) [06:08] He had his 15 minutes of fame on ##slackware [06:09] "There is no reason to use slackware over FreeBSD unless 1.) you are a retarded communist or [...]" <- good, I think I fit in that with my nick ;p [06:09] Camarade_Tux: niels_horn any idea? [06:09] no :-) [06:09] so what is power and why does being a member seem to be so very important. Important enough that you need to announce it? [06:10] init[1]: first time it happens? tried rebooting or exiting xfce and starting it again? [06:10] is it possible to have two sets of raid 0 and one of those sets mirroring the other? [06:10] I am a member of the .5 inch tall hair club. Yet that seems to count for nothing. [06:11] jonsmith1982: raid 01? or is that 10 [06:11] panzer: once I forgot to put a new user in power and xfce wouldn't allow me to reboot/shutdown/... ;-) [06:11] Camarade_Tux: it have been on hibernation for past few weeks , i mean i use regularly and do hibernate , today its acting strange. well i'm gona restart .:( [06:11] oh I got you [06:12] Ok yea I really need to go to sleep. cause I completely read that one the wrong way [06:12] init[1]: sorry, me neither... [06:12] Action: init[1] gona rebooooooot now :-/ [06:13] niels_horn: :) ty for the response :) [06:13] jhw_ (~jhw@p5B3E7E24.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:14] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E7E24.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:15] init[1]: I do use xfce on my laptop but hardly ever hibernate it. It must have been months... [06:16] init[1]: Installed a new package / upgraded something? Otherwise, a boot might indeed help [06:17] might as well be that hald died [06:18] hi all its long time im not working on Slackware, does it support gNome in new versions? [06:18] Gnome was dropped at version 12.0 [06:18] try gsb - gnome slackbuild if you want gnome for slackware [06:19] is it a slackware which build with gnome or i have to install gnome on it ? [06:20] gsb is based on slackware but has gnome desktop [06:20] Check out the reason for my bad mood.. i finally decide its time to upgrade Nagios. I didnt quite finish yesterday afternon so it wasnt working overnight... at midnight.. BOOM a power cut takes the whole network out. I dont find out til 8:30am and have no idea whats been affected [06:20] rather than kde desktop [06:20] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:21] niels_horn: finally using your build. thanks for the work :) [06:23] Zordrak: nagios? I noticed you submitted a new version of the plugins, but haven't had the time to check it out :) [06:24] xover (~xover@host86-160-171-236.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [06:24] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [06:25] niels_horn: its nothing but a version bump [06:25] guys, I want open vpn to start on boot, should I create my own startup script or is there one that comes with it? I could not find it after installation. [06:25] i actually did it to fix a permissions issue [06:25] it was chowning /usr to nagios [06:25] niels_horn: fyi the rc.nagios script doesnt stop correctly [06:26] causes niels_horn causes "kill" to print usage() [06:27] Zordrak: It doesn't? Uhm, my nagios server only shuts down like once or twice a year, so I hardly ever test the "stop" option ;) I'll take a look... [06:27] i think its the line aye.. me either [06:28] i think its the line in killproc_nagios() that does "kill $2 $NagiosPID" [06:28] niels_horn: hmm... actually.. might be the pidfile [06:30] grazymax (~grazymax@host167-2-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Bye Bye [06:30] niels_horn: somethings definitely not right here.. status isnt working properly either :/ not sure if this is the rc or something up with my setup [06:31] Zordrak: well, status is running fine here... "nagios (pid 3410) is running..." 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[06:40] niels_horn: im a little confused [06:40] the PID is pulled from the RunFile... but the RunFile never has the pid added to it... its only touched [06:40] Zordrak: If I can help to "unconfuse" you.. :) [06:41] so since its empty, the head" [06:41] so since its empty, the "head" gcets nothing from the lockfile and so cant get the pid to kill or check status on [06:41] but if yours is working.. *something* must be putting the pid in the RunFile [06:42] can you do a "head -n1 /var/run/nagios/nagios.lock" ? [06:42] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [06:43] Zordrak: yep: 3410 (that matches the result from the status command [06:43] so.. how did it get there? [06:44] the hell? theres a RunFile and a LockFile [06:44] but the RunFile is called nagios.lock?! [06:46] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [06:46] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. [06:47] unless nagios puts it there... [06:47] jonsmith1982 (~jon@cpc2-donc1-0-0-cust57.barn.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:47] yup [06:48] damnnit its in the config file [06:48] Zordrak: from nagios.cfg: # LOCK FILE / # This is the lockfile that Nagios will use to store its PID number [06:48] Zordrak: you found it :) [06:48] and what the rc.d calls the runfile nagios calls the lockfile [06:49] i had it as /var/nagios/nagios.lock not /var/run/nagios/nagios.lock [06:49] but since the ACTUAL lockfile is in /var/lock/subsys... why have the "RunFile" in /var/run/nagios instead of just /var/nagios with everything else [06:50] bah! [06:50] at least it works now [06:51] niels_horn: thanks [06:51] nannes (~nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [06:51] Zordrak: np :) Glad it works now [06:52] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E7E24.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [06:52] now if only i could get gnokii to start sending sms messages again without dying with a bloody stacktrace :( [06:52] niels_horn: (this is after a 12.1 -> -current upgrade of the server) [06:53] who was having troubles building amarok on -current? [06:53] fs_ (~fs@60-234-232-70.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [06:53] Zordrak: Never tried it with gnokii.. My server sends e-mails. [06:53] bluetooth works fine to connect the phone... but nearly every time gnokii's smsd tries to send a text it just dies. stupid thing. argh. [06:54] ugh... gonna have to leave it til later.. gotta go find out why the gridengine cluster didnt survive the power cut [06:54] There was another sms solution, but never tried it and I don't remember the name... 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[06:58] hmmm, maybe gcc issue, I got success building 2.3 beta1 [06:58] but, strangly, the SlackBuild doesn't work :( [06:59] shyko: i gave up :) [06:59] hehehehhe [07:00] WTF? KDE 4.4 is trying to destroy whats left of my sanity [07:01] sometimes it swaps the contents of two desktops... then im like.. wtf.. hich one am i on then? [07:02] i was ok with it occasionally swapping to a different desktop whenever it feels like it... but swapping the windows around is just malicious [07:03] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:03] slackie (~x@87-196-82-17.net.novis.pt) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [07:08] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. [07:09] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [07:10] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Client Quit [07:10] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E7E24.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [07:12] Nick change: Asmadeus_ -> Asmadeus [07:13] Axius (~fd@92.85.218.62) joined ##slackware. [07:14] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) joined ##slackware. [07:14] sirslacker|busy (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:20] I have suddenly starting getting "too many failed attempts" when trying to print? I know the password is correct and is entered into printers.conf [07:20] Zordrak: what exactly does it swap? Does it swap them only in the taskbar or in the pager or all together? [07:21] shyko: remove -DKDE4_ENABLE_FINAL from the build flags [07:22] pprkut: yeah I got it [07:23] ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [07:23] I have a slightly newer version than 2.3beta1 running just fine here on -current [07:25] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [07:26] pprkut: what about 2.2.2 stable, did you got build it on -current and gcc-4.43? [07:26] haven't tried, but it was the same error [07:28] but, 2.3 beta1 seems pretty cool :) [07:28] pprkut: its literally like they swapped places [07:29] pprkut: i just suddenly realise that even though im looking at my mail (usually D1) im in D4 [07:29] and Konsole is in D1 when it should be in D4 [07:29] Zordrak: hmm, never saw that. But it definitely has some window management bugs [07:29] hell yes [07:30] it had them in 4.3 as well, but 4.4 is very much worse [07:30] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [07:30] Nick change: lf4 -> lifeforce4 [07:31] Nick change: lifeforce4 -> lf4 [07:31] Zordrak: sometimes my taskbar decides to show entries on top of each other. Very interesting to look at [07:31] pprkut: i never had a problem with 4.2.. 4.3 occasionally had some crashes... but never did anything that seemed rondam of its ownaccord [07:33] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E7E24.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:37] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.46.113) joined ##slackware. [07:40] hello, Zordrak [07:40] stef_208 (~stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [07:41] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.46.113) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:43] .. [07:43] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:44] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) left irc: Quit: GoodBye - See you later [07:45] Action: theblackbox just started a distro/dependency war in #linode =| [07:45] one mention of Slackware is enough to make people crazy! 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[08:00] I flog myself with a slackware whip :-) [08:00] aren't slackware installs on linode *really* *really* minimal? [08:02] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [08:02] yes [08:02] and it's a rite arse [08:06] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:06] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:09] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [08:11] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:11] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-erhnwatsjwshsqsf) joined ##slackware. [08:13] xover (~xover@host86-160-171-236.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:14] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [08:19] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:20] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. 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[08:34] gaz (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:34] john_dee (~id@95-29-9-151.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:34] theblackbox: so.. is that idiot dodecahedron's little verbal vomit earlier your fault? [08:36] nannes (nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [08:36] pprkut: my box have been on hibernation on daily use (i mean i hibernate after all my use),today all of sudden in the logout option all my options (hiber/reboot/shut/whatever) got disabled. [08:36] not that I know of, I'm not talking freenode but their own server [08:37] pprkut: xfce. [08:37] I forgot there was one here also [08:38] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:38] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-229-248.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [08:39] PsYkHe (~psykhe@187.36.139.37) joined ##slackware. [08:39] init[1]: hmm, very strange [08:40] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@62.1.240.115.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:40] pprkut: end result was a logout with Zero response blank console. :-/ [08:41] hah [08:41] init[1], there are issues with nvidia driver and suspend [08:41] init[1], usually it does just resume to a balc console [08:41] black* [08:42] I have to shut down X and run a script in console to suspend my desktop... [08:42] dive: it was working fine all the week , i had no issues with it , problem is today soo strange my option hibernate got disabled , i have no idea what happened. [08:43] init[1], yeah I don't know why that would happen [08:43] dive: btw i haven't tired to suspened though. [08:43] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:44] init[1], well by suspend I meant suspend/hibernate [08:44] dive: never had issues with suspend on nvidia [08:44] pprkut, which version? [08:44] maybe they fixed it [08:44] pprkut: neither have I [08:44] since 185.x I think [08:45] mine is NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.20 [08:45] I upgraded to the latest. [08:45] init[1]: ah, an older card? [08:45] dive ah, geforce 5? [08:45] thumbs: yea gf fx series [08:45] pprkut, geforce 6800 [08:45] I see. [08:45] and that is not supported by the newer driver? [08:46] pprkut: no. [08:46] thumbs: erm, yes it is [08:47] dive: 6800 or 5800? [08:47] 6800 [08:47] that upgrade ffs! :D [08:47] 6800 gt [08:47] 195.x got for it! [08:47] I see nvidia on SBo is 190 so I'll try a newer driver maybe [08:48] ah, yeah, I have the beta here [08:48] shouldn't matter though [08:49] There was fix I found once about using mobile=1 in modprobe options but I think it worked once or twice and then went back to the usual [08:49] do you have any module options set? [08:49] nope [08:50] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:50] anyway time for me to get off my butt. Laters [08:53] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: ... [08:53] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. 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[09:25] I having problem with amarok, only reproduced one track and i have to do play again to reproduce next track [09:26] slackie (~x@87-196-82-17.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:26] Somebody have any idea? [09:27] gades: first of all tell us what version of amarok you're using [09:27] try selecting all the tracks first [09:28] Action: slackie hi there \o [09:28] second of all, I don't use amarok for long time, I can't help you. Sorry. [09:29] metrofox: Im using amarok 2.1.1 [09:30] Skywise: thanks :D [09:31] Skywise: problem solved [09:32] see ya later guys [09:32] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-229-248.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [09:36] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.201.68) joined ##slackware. [09:37] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [09:37] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [09:38] PeanutHorst (~peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:39] youtube is not not opening on my Slackware 13 today. Browser status bar says "Transferring data from...." and nothing appears on screen. Same is the case with browserlab.adobe.com. I have a pc connected to mine via lan and from that pc I can open these websites. All I did is last night I set up an NFS share. [09:40] PeanutHorst (~peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [09:40] PeanutHorst (~peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Changing host [09:40] PeanutHorst (~peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) joined ##slackware. [09:41] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:41] browserlab.adobe.com gives error "Server not found" on Firefox. Chrome says "Error 105 (net::ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED): The server could not be found" [09:41] same website works fine on the other pc connected to mine. [09:42] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-145.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:43] sounds like your dns is messed up [09:43] or your connection went down [09:44] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [09:46] alreadygone_ (~silas@59.103.211.82) joined ##slackware. [09:46] Delahunt, some websites work fine... [09:46] then your dns sucks [09:46] are both machines resolving to the same DNS servers? [09:47] yes [09:47] how are they connected to the internet? what's the topology of your home LAN? [09:48] alreadygone_, what "host www.youtube.com" returns on console? [09:48] other pc is connected via crossover to my pc. My pc is connected to internet [09:48] there's your problem [09:48] i've never seen internet connection sharing work properly regardless of what the host OS is/was [09:48] www.youtube.com is an alias for youtube-ui.l.google.com. [09:48] what is the host OS ? [09:48] Delahunt, i see [09:48] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.201.68) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:49] Debian [09:49] ^^ [09:49] alreadygone_, are the nat rules made correct? [09:49] sounds like you may have a problem on the debian box [09:49] and from there my expertise are exhausted because i've never touched ics and never will [09:49] everything was working fine... it's just last night I set up my PC as NFS server and shared folders... [09:50] so you changed something [09:50] and debian has a habit of including scripts you may not realize into their config (i.e. you add something, the script thinks you want something changed, etc) [09:50] just the /etc/exports and /etc/hosts and /etc/rc.d/rc.nfsd [09:50] or it did last time i used it [09:50] Action: Delahunt shrugs [09:51] Action: alreadygone_ sighs [09:51] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:53] guax, http://www.pastie.org/828965 these are settings for NAT [09:54] but I did not touch those settings last night... there was no need [09:55] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:58] alreadygone_ (~silas@59.103.211.82) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:00] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:01] i seriously need to reconsider our co-lo provider [10:01] 45 minutes in and i still dont know if anyone is actually planning the hard reboot i asked for as a matter of urgency... :< [10:02] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.200.123) joined ##slackware. [10:03] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:03] manwich-laptop (~tjones@70-14-231-42.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [10:03] Zordrak, IS it urgent? [10:03] um. yeah. [10:05] just wish it wasnt the other side of a bloody mountain range or id do it myself [10:07] spiko (1000@89-212-140-150.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:08] Breech_ (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [10:12] Breech_1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [10:13] Breech_ (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:15] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:18] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) joined ##slackware. [10:18] WOAH. I *think* i might have found the cause of the crash [10:19] this is the output of dmesg: http://pastebin.ca/1800066 [10:20] Zordrak, running slackware? [10:20] yup [10:20] 12.2 [10:22] ugh, is that some attempt to use v4 mapped v4 sockets? [10:22] err v4 mapped v6 [10:22] not in the slightest [10:22] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.16) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:22] Zordrak, time for an update don't you think? [10:23] why? [10:23] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:23] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [10:25] e5150 (~e5150@c-83-219-196-248.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [10:28] xover (~xover@host86-160-171-236.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [10:28] hi all, I am setting up openVPN, its appears that the init-config tool is missing, can I download this? [10:29] there is no 'easyrsa; sub directory [10:29] hmm [10:29] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro [10:30] cat /var/log/packages/openvpn* [10:30] I have it, thanks [10:30] does it list the /etc/openvpn/easyrsa? [10:31] tb it should list all files that package has installed [10:31] no it is under /usr/doc [10:31] its in the documentation directory, but have it now. [10:31] that is useful to know. thanks [10:32] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [10:32] ok, i had a look, mine doesn't have the folder under /etc also, but i think it was under /etc in earlier releases of slackware [10:32] or maybe I put them there myself [10:32] manwich-laptop (~tjones@70-14-231-42.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:34] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:37] darkmaster977_ (~darkmaste@078088020007.klodzko.vectranet.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:37] darkmaster977 (~darkmaste@078088020007.klodzko.vectranet.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:37] darkmaster977_ (~darkmaste@078088020007.klodzko.vectranet.pl) left irc: Client Quit [10:38] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:40] Hi, I want to make a multiinstaller of Ubuntu and Slackware on my pendrive. I don't want to use a UNetbootin and I want to use a only one partition. Does anyone know how to do that??? [10:40] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:40] ??? [10:41] the problem will be conflicting installers - unless you also add a setup script yourself to specify which distro to install [10:42] i want to make a bootable pd with two os (installers of ubuntu & slack) [10:43] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [10:43] why? [10:44] because I have a damaged CD in my notebook [10:45] & i don't want to use a two pd [10:45] but why not use 2 separate thumbdrives rather than try to twiddle with different distro installer issues? [10:45] they're pretty cheap nowadays [10:47] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:47] this is a challenge xD [10:47] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.200.123) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:48] I see. have fun:) [10:48] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:48] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) left irc: Quit: GoodBye - See you later [10:50] soa (~zett@unaffiliated/sky-1/x-6937507) joined ##slackware. [10:50] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:51] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:51] jonsmith1982 (~jon@cpc2-donc1-0-0-cust57.barn.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:54] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.211.51) joined ##slackware. [10:54] sirslacker (1001@s0262.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [10:54] oh does anyone can point me to slackware 64bit iso 13 download (3.8GB) package ? i cant find it [10:54] Nick change: sirslacker -> sirslacker|busy [10:54] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) joined ##slackware. [10:55] at the end of of resolv.conf, there is this line: search example.org what is its purpose? [10:55] soa: torrent? [10:55] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:56] BP{k}: normal [10:56] http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0-iso/ [10:56] soa: ftp://your_server/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/ [10:56] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.26.254) joined ##slackware. [10:56] fosforo_ (fosforo@187.15.26.254) left ##slackware. [10:57] darkmaster977: 1) he asked for the iso file 2) not all mirrors carry the actual iso. [10:58] raela|alt (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:59] BP{k}: that mirror is fast thx [10:59] kde 4.4 is nice [10:59] alreadygone, i think it's meant when you type alreadygone it tries to resolve alreadygone.example.org [10:59] but i'm not sure [10:59] in that mirrors what i looked there wasnt isos [11:00] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.26.254) joined ##slackware. [11:00] soa, try some other mirrors, or download the whole think and make your own isos, it's simple and the instructions are great [11:01] think.... i meant something else, but can't remember that word.... [11:01] i use search google.com in resolv.conf [11:01] thing [11:01] if i type anything it uses google search im feeling lucky [11:01] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) left irc: Quit: GoodBye - See you later [11:01] so i often end up on the relevent page if i type a partial domain [11:01] soa: most mirrors will not carry the isos just to cut down on bandwidth a bit. [11:01] oobe, i think that is a firefox feature [11:02] really [11:02] oh woops [11:02] oobe, on other ways, get torrent [11:02] right. it seems the short bus has pulled up here again. [11:02] Action: BP{k} goes off to sdo something useful. [11:02] ups, the last text was meant to soa [11:03] BP{k}: yeah i know...but i cant download it under 5 min via direct so...^^ [11:03] */ i can [11:03] soa: must be a nice connection, you got there. :) [11:04] soa, it doesn't mean that the mirror has that kind of connection... [11:04] or there still mught be some other bottleneck [11:04] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [11:04] soa there are scripts to make iso's from rsync [11:04] or just manually do it [11:04] zux1wrk: yeah but that mirrors i looked had 1 or 10Gbps [11:05] clijunkie (1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) left ##slackware. [11:05] zux1wrk, I share my internet connection with another pc. From the other pc I can open browserlab.adobe.com. From my PC it is not opening. Chrome gives "Error 105 (net::ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED): The server could not be found." Firefox says "Connection was interrupted". Things were working fine before. What happened today I have no idea. browserlab worked fine before. [11:05] BP{k}: its 120Mbit ^^ [11:05] alreadygone, try pingping the host, or nslookup or dig [11:06] ping is fine [11:06] soa, well, i have a 100Mbit at home, but the international connection is not so good from latvia, so i can only get around 10-15 Mbits on international [11:06] it pings [11:06] pprkut: just done it again. seems it happens when i come out of Desktop Grid and then click on the active window... theres a quick flick of what just looks like a refresh draw and suddenly im on D7 (this time) and the stuff that was on D7 has gone to D1 (where i was) [11:07] if it resolvs, then it's not a resolv.conf problem [11:07] alreadygone, i would gues it's your pc's problem, or firewall blockes you [11:08] block's [11:08] damn [11:08] i found a lot of slack guys dont like gentoo guys i dont know why =O [11:08] but it's not a dns problem [11:08] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Reset by Beer [11:08] nobody like gentoo guys heh [11:08] isnt just a slackware thing [11:08] their mothers do.. [11:08] all I did is I shared a folder last night via NFS (made my pc a NFS server)... now since morning I cannot open browserlab... [11:08] soa, i don't know any gentoo guys, but i think i won't like them if i will... [11:08] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:08] Zordrak: bugreport! I already did 8 ;) [11:09] pprkut: aye [11:09] alreadygone, only that page has problems? [11:09] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E5E62.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:09] youtube was not working before. but I dstopped nfs and it works now [11:09] try telnet to port 8- to that server [11:09] 80 [11:09] pprkut: too busy to right now -- taking Win2k3R2 off a xeon with SAS and replacing it with slack!! :D [11:10] hahaha [11:10] ok/ job over. bye [11:10] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:10] actually youtube only works with Firefox now. The reason is I enabled ipv6 in about:config.... [11:11] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.41) joined ##slackware. [11:12] im going to choose some lightweight distro for my notebook ...and migrate my pc from gentoo to slack..cya guys [11:13] alreadygone, your ip is ipv4 [11:13] yes [11:13] soa: have fun [11:14] soa: what's wrong with slack on your notebook? [11:14] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E5E62.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:15] zux1wrk (~zux@80.232.209.242) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [11:15] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E5E62.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:16] kindly see if my resolv.conf ok? http://www.pastie.org/829129 [11:17] LOL [11:17] wtf [11:17] what? [11:17] you only need 2 or 3 nameserver at the most [11:17] u can get by with 1 [11:18] I did not put those lines there [11:18] someone got suspend working on kde4? echo -n "mem" > /sys/power/sleep works, but on kde just see a error on messages that is: Feb 17 14:19:14 trantor dbus-daemon: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.10" (uid=1000 pid=2539 comm="kdeinit4: kded4 [kdeinit] ") interface="org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.SystemPowerManagement" member="Suspend" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="org.freedesktop.Hal" (uid=0 [11:18] pid=2167 comm="/usr/sbin/hald --daemon=yes ")) [11:18] uhm ... wtfbf :) [11:18] shit, should have pastebined it [11:18] OMG! noobfarm is down, now where am i going to get the latest blundering comments from IRC? [11:18] alreadygone: must be those damm fuckupfairies then :P [11:18] bash.org? [11:18] from here! [11:19] BP{k}, why would I put those repeating lines there? [11:19] the innernets iz failing [11:19] any known bugs in alsa or flash? i'm getting errors on console playing youtubes on a fresh install and playback is choppy, there's no sound [11:19] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) joined ##slackware. [11:19] googling the error isn't turning up much, which is unusual of course [11:20] alreadygone, mv your existing /etc/resolv.conf then make a new one with this http://pastebin.ca/1800156 [11:20] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [11:20] well i mean there's bugs but.. sound familiar on this one? [11:20] alreadygone: then how did they get there? [11:20] I don't KNOW BP{k} :| [11:20] alreadygone: 1) that is not the default resolv.conf 2) if that is autogenerated by dhcp you have some fucked up dhcp server somewhere [not to mention it usually mention it at the top of the file]. [11:21] so ergo the only plausible explanation is: you did it. [11:21] oobe believe 59.103.0.90 is my nameserver... [11:21] that makes since [11:21] sense [11:21] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] alreadygone, i have you nameservers that are open to the public [11:22] good for when ur isp NS are crapping out [11:22] lsmod shows the proper snd_via82xx modules it looks like [11:22] ok thanks oobe, so I change my resolv.conf and then restart which service? [11:22] but i think it's defaulting to using the sound on the ati video card [11:23] you dont need to restart anything [11:23] really! that's great [11:24] oh man https://browserlab.adobe.com started working !!! [11:24] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [11:24] lol surprise [11:25] how to install rpm pkg in slackware [11:25] thank you so much oobe [11:25] as for what added all those nameservers i cant say there are programs that will edit them but none i can think of in slackware [11:25] Hello everyone :) [11:25] so if you installed any internet 3rd party related apps lately that is the problem [11:26] *might be the problem [11:26] can the Debian connected with my pc do that? I share my internet connection with it... [11:26] I dont think I installed anything like that... [11:26] no machine should be able to remotely edit your configs without you specifying it [11:27] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [11:27] yes that sounds right [11:28] those are called exploytes [11:28] fyi if you know ur isp's nameservers then you should put them in too [11:28] i only use 2 at a time [11:28] MadneX (~MadneX@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [11:28] but switch if browsing is a bit slow [11:28] ok, let me try [11:29] darkmaster977 (~darkmaste@078088020007.klodzko.vectranet.pl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:30] if your ISPs nameservers are slow try these, 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.202.202 (OpenDNS free public nameservers) [11:30] MadneX (~MadneX@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Client Quit [11:30] thanks Pig_Pen, oobe :) [11:31] guh. opendns. [11:31] breaking t3h intarwebz like nobodys business [11:32] i guess you can always use BIND and cache your own [11:32] e5150 (~e5150@c-83-219-196-248.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:33] Pig_Pen, there open dns ip's which i gave him in pastebin already [11:33] :) [11:33] ardya, what is wrong with open dns [11:34] wildcarding breaks mail, for one [11:34] I am the CEO of the department of redundancy department [11:34] OpenDNS is not great but better than nothing at all [11:35] same shit netsol tried, and couldn't get away with [11:35] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:35] better off using 4.4.4.4 or 8.8.8.8 [11:36] whats so hard about setting up your own dns server? [11:36] and your ISPs NS would have to be REAL slow to get any benefit of leaving the ISPs network just to get dns responses [11:37] or if you don't want those nxdomain redirects [11:37] oobe, speed is great with the ip's you gave me.... [11:37] thanks [11:37] np [11:37] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [11:38] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [11:38] i almost did the bind thing when my ISP's nameservers got borked and slowed to a crawl, i had the app downloaded and was getting ready to build and BAM! my ISP fixed their nameservers making caching my own no longer necessary [11:38] ardya, it happens from time to time [11:38] i use my isp's [11:38] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [11:38] tsonev (~tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Client Quit [11:38] but i have the open dns there ready commented out for when i need it [11:38] pg: what ISP [11:39] dns takes almost no overhead [11:39] only think you have to do is update the root servers monthly and theres crontab scripts for that [11:39] thats what i did, i have opendns in resolv.conf but commented out just incase my ISP's nameservers goes tits up again [11:40] if you leave them uncommented then it will failover automatically [11:40] Skywise: and keep yiour black hole lists up to date [11:40] ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [11:40] i don't keep my own lists [11:41] i don't think its an effective tactic anymore [11:41] i do use rbl for email [11:41] mohaa (~nome@92.49.77.229) joined ##slackware. [11:42] tactic? [11:42] i just think the internet is too fluid and with cloud computing being more common [11:43] i have a question i installed alien's 4.4 packages in slackware-current but now when i use slackpkg upgrade-all slackpkg wants to downgrade kde to the version in current how do i prevent it from doing this [11:43] ips just aren't sieve anymore [11:43] aren't a good sieve [11:43] oobe, blacklist the kde stuff [11:44] ok thrice` thats what i wanted to do but i wasnt aware if that was an option [11:44] o/ howdy [11:45] i see /etc/slackpkg/blacklist thanks [11:45] will it accept wild cards or regex [11:46] wait i can blacklist whole directories [11:46] sorry, I"m not sure exactly :> I use my own rsync stuff usually [11:48] which process runs 'openvpn'? [11:48] um... openvpn does [11:48] manwich-laptop (~tjones@70-14-231-42.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [11:49] Xires (~Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:49] i ran openvpn configfile and it just returned me to the commandline [11:50] congrats [11:50] ahhhh sound works fine for root. this should be easy to fix then. [11:50] militant: /etc/group [11:51] Zordrak: ahh i was gonna start with permissions. group is a better idea [11:51] plugdev, audio, etc etc [11:52] didn't have this issue when i had slack on the laptop, so it surprised/confused me [11:54] v4nelle (~v4nelle@78-106-28.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:54] Zordrak: I am getting this [11:54] Options error: Parameter ca_file can only be specified in TLS-mode, i.e. where --tls-server or --tls-client is also specified. [11:54] soa (zett@unaffiliated/sky-1/x-6937507) left ##slackware. [11:54] Zordrak: etc? :) [11:55] guys onslack 13,there isn't any rc.firewall...must i create it,or there is any othr file to put iptable rules? [11:55] militant: disk lp wheel uucp audio video cdrom plugdev users [11:55] militant: vboxusers if appropriate [11:55] etc [11:56] wow ok. i seriously need to add my user to all those? ok. thanks [11:56] xover: so dont specify a ca file.. or specify tls mode [11:56] militant: you dont *have* to.. but if youre too lazy to find out what each one's for... ;) [11:56] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:57] Zordrak: most of them make vague sense to me. i used to admin a slack 7.1 machine with a few dozen users and a couple services. i've just been off linux of any kind for at least 6-7 years [11:57] alvarogmj (~amartinez@200.124.194.190) joined ##slackware. [11:57] trying to remember things :) [11:58] like this? [11:58] openvpn /etc/openvpn/openvpn.conf --tls-server [11:58] alvarogmj (amartinez@200.124.194.190) left ##slackware. [11:58] if youre a single user on a desktop box with effective admin rights to it... then i would add all of those [11:58] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:58] xover: wow. [11:58] xover: who gave you the keys to openvpn and did you get insurance? [11:58] lol [11:59] its complaining if i use a config file and a tls server mode [12:00] uh. yeah [12:00] id complain if you kicked me in the face too [12:00] why? [12:00] cause itd hurt [12:02] what is the dh_file parameter? [12:02] thats where you tell it where the dh file is [12:02] i want to install starcal with KPackage but i get this (http://pastebin.com/db495550) error ,how i can repair it [12:03] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-erhnwatsjwshsqsf) left irc: Quit: xMDKx [12:03] Blue_Slacker86: are you joking? [12:03] I'm having trouble getting a seagate USB hd to work. It's ntfs (maybe I can reformat it?) it doesn't show up on lsusb and demsg puts out this error: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/ABdc6H16.html [12:03] Zordrak: why? [12:04] i have commented it out and its still bitching about that TLSmode [12:04] Blue_Slacker86: you really ought to reconsider your choice of distribution :) [12:04] hmmm [12:04] Euthanatos: looks like the disk or USB adapter chip may be on the fritz [12:05] Blue_Slacker86: from your problems over the past week, it seems that you keep on treating slackware like most other distributions, with hopes of accessing a large library of software with different package management [12:05] that doesn't sound good =/ [12:06] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:06] Euthanatos: its coming up.. giving errors, going back down, then coming up again [12:07] tbh.. if it were my disk.. id take it out of the USB packaging and plug it directly into a IDE/ATA port to see if the disk is completely boned [12:07] anyone using audacious by chance? [12:07] Necos, I do [12:07] what's your cpu usage while playing dive? [12:08] er that's the xmms clone right, not the editing suite? I always get them mixed up. [12:08] that's audacity (the editor) [12:08] i thought about doing that [12:08] right one sec I'll check cpu [12:08] necos: I fond audacious uses more resourcs than xmms [12:09] on my dual core, i'm getting in the high 90s... i'm wondering if it's something i did, or a bug [12:09] Euthanatos: google the error message about "device descriptor read/64 error" [12:09] theres lots of info out there [12:09] hey, genii, can i install slack from another OS. the point being i have no cd-drive [12:09] Lafy (~matt@CPE000fcb36ca0d-CM00122540231e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:10] Necos, it's 7.9 - 8.3 [12:10] haqe17_: USB or PXE boot ith [12:10] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:10] what is PXE? [12:10] max 8.6 [12:10] ok... so it might be something with my setup [12:10] maybe [12:10] what sort of usage? [12:10] Breech_1 (Joachim@212.88.117.162) left ##slackware. [12:11] ananke: In your opinion, I do not use the Slackware [12:11] haqe17_: network boot [12:11] thanks [12:11] haqe17_: or just lend it a cd drive for installation from another machine [12:11] i'm getting 95-99% [12:11] Blue_Slacker86: are you shitting me?! [12:11] ouch [12:12] Necos Locos [12:12] lol, yo jeev [12:13] how's the weather [12:13] Zordrak: added, that fixed the error. thx. getting some other error now but i think i got it solved too [12:13] Zordrak: shitting ? [12:13] fuckin humid >.> [12:13] really, you're in D.C. ? [12:13] no :P [12:13] i never reclal humidity in LA [12:13] must be all the shrimp juice in the air for you [12:13] gar0t0_ (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [12:13] hm maybe not [12:14] Zordrak: but if i wanted to be cool i could just mount the iso on this system and then copy the packages into another partition and configure bootloader, right? [12:14] Lafy (~matt@CPE000fcb36ca0d-CM00122540231e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [12:14] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Disconnected by services [12:14] haqe17_: you still need to boot the install environment [12:14] Nick change: gar0t0_ -> gar0t0 [12:15] unless you put the other machines hard disk in your working one.. do the install.. then put it back [12:15] Blue_Slacker86: you said you are not using slackware... [12:15] jeev, you dumbass :P [12:15] hmmm, after restarting audacious, cpu usage is back to normal [12:16] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-120-11.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:16] dodgy mp3? [12:16] Zordrak: i dont have any other machines or any cd. i have a usb but dnt think my computer can boot those [12:16] snL20 (~irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:16] Zordrak: only way i can see to get slack on here is to to the installation manually [12:17] snL20 (~irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [12:17] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [12:18] Zordrak: no , I am using Slackware 13.0 now But I'm a newcomer [12:19] Blue_Slacker86, why are trying to install a .deb file anyway? [12:19] what are you trying to install with .deb? [12:19] starcal [12:20] stef_208 (~stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:22] haqe17_: glwt [12:22] dive: guax :Because it not have source or slackbuild or pkg [12:22] and what package it is? [12:22] http://sourceforge.net/projects/starcal/files/starcal/1.4.3/starcal-1.4.3-1-any.pkg.tar.gz/download [12:22] ahhh wtf. i have no /dev/dsp [12:22] interesting [12:23] guax: it is a persain calendar for persian people [12:24] Blue_Slacker86, source: http://sourceforge.net/projects/starcal/files/starcal/1.4.3/starcal-1.4.3-1-any.pkg.tar.gz/download [12:24] s/persian/iranian/ right? [12:24] militant: touch /dev/dsp [12:24] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ljtkbaitcudsgofr) joined ##slackware. [12:24] the source is there [12:24] compile it [12:24] you can make a slackbuild for it if you want [12:24] Action: haqe17_ rolls [12:24] hmm that's actually binary blobs [12:25] humm [12:25] ah might be python [12:26] 0 revisions on sourceforge svn [12:26] dive: Thank you so much again to you that I did have help destitute I'm new to even work with the Windows do not know [12:26] you can manually install the .deb by decompressing it and generating a slackware package from it [12:27] if they didnt make many scripting vodoo, its rather easy [12:27] Blue_Slacker86, you will find a python script in usr/share/starcal/src/starcal.py [12:27] run that [12:28] you could make a package easier from that tar.gz though - it has the correct directory structure [12:28] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:28] python "$SRC_DIR/starcal.py" "$@" [12:28] yep, python [12:28] xover (~xover@host86-160-171-236.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [12:30] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[12:45] hmmmm everything looks good now on sound, no errors anywhere, mixer's turned up etc, but no actual sound output [12:45] not from console mplayer anyway [12:46] slackie (~x@87-196-82-17.net.novis.pt) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [12:47] Blue_Slacker86: i'm not sure what you're talking about. i never expressed an opinion that you 'are not using slackware' [12:47] and not from flashplayer [12:48] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:48] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [12:48] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [12:48] ananke, apparently it was implied in a parallel universe :) [12:48] implied... or implode? :p [12:49] either works :P [12:50] militant, try to aplay a wav file. Any error or does it seem like it's playing? [12:51] I'mma aplay urandom =) [12:51] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:51] militant: alsaconf ? [12:51] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:51] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:51] what would you do to try out a new toy with really really fast disk I/O? [12:52] Zordrak: video encoding ? [12:52] snL20: alsaconf screws me up, reverts /etc/modprobe.d/sound so the other sound card is default [12:52] snL20: meh [12:53] how about video capture? :P [12:53] militant: ok... I tried like everything once after a system update to get sound and then `alsaconf` pow sound :P [12:53] snL20: "aww dude sweet... watch me encode this video..." :p [12:53] Necos: requires a card and a source [12:53] toastytoast (~toast@cpe-74-75-198-155.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:53] Zordrak: stream the olympics to the people ? =) [12:53] 'watch me copy data. so fast' [12:54] militant, does aplay give any error? [12:54] dive: no sound, no error [12:54] ok [12:54] time to sleep... good night [12:54] and I take it alsamixer shows the correct card? [12:54] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.211.51) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:54] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:54] militant: uhm, why do you hav 2 soundcards ? [12:54] disk io just doesnt matter that much to linux :/ windows would drown in its own vomit.. tux couldnt give a toss [12:55] Zordrak, ? [12:55] dive: it does. [12:55] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:55] snL20: one is the dummy one or whatever on my video card [12:55] militant, which card is it? [12:55] militant: a videocard with sound ? heh [12:56] militant, make, model? [12:56] militant: does it have hdmi output ? [12:56] Delahunt: windows does disk IO with just about every click.. so much of linux is in ram [12:56] Action: Delahunt has been having fun creating lots of tmpfs mount points on his user's ~ to put temporary-type files in tmpfs [12:56] Zordrak, oh [12:57] v4nelle (~v4nelle@78-106-28.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:57] Delahunt: I've been having fun with truecrypt and luks =) [12:58] slackie (~x@87.196.82.17) joined ##slackware. [12:58] snL20, cool [12:58] snL20, README_CRYPT ? [12:59] dtanner (~dtanner@24.174.7.64) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:59] Delahunt: arch wiki for luks and truecrypt homepage for truecrypt [12:59] snL20, so you're using fully encrypted hard drive? [13:00] Delahunt: naah just a single partition... for pr0n =) [13:00] snL20, using encryption on your pr0n stash? sounds like child pr0n to me :o [13:00] dtanner (~dtanner@24.174.7.64) joined ##slackware. [13:01] Delahunt: eh, no... just stuff I dont want teh kids to see =) [13:01] Action: Delahunt 's solution was to quit watching pr0n [13:01] Delahunt, that's a shitty solution [13:01] :) [13:01] dive VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller [13:01] via audio chipset, i think [13:01] beauty (or lack thereof) is in the eye of the beholder [13:02] Necos: fag! :D [13:02] Necos: err not you [13:02] Delahunt: fag! [13:02] AHAHAHAHAH [13:02] :D [13:02] Action: Necos stabs snL20 [13:02] snL20: the video card based sound is Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV630/M76 audio device [Radeon HD 2600 Series] [13:03] nick4b (~nick4b@77.49.252.96.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:03] Action: Delahunt just made ~/.cache and .thumbnails tmpfs [13:04] :P [13:04] snL20, so you're calling 99% of all american males who went through basic training and were too tired, stressed, and busy gay? [13:04] 8-P [13:04] ascii pr0n is so 1996 [13:04] Action: Delahunt thinks maybe this should be in ##slackware-offtopic 8-S [13:04] Euthanatos (~chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:05] wouldn't be the first time snL20 has been using that word as an insult [13:05] vhann (~vhann@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:05] ##slackware-offtopic is for serious convos [13:05] Action: Delahunt dive-bombs dive [13:05] snL20, join us and get a free cookie 8-) [13:05] ananke: well no, but I believe you are referring to gay :P [13:05] Delahunt puts arsenic in his cookies [13:06] snL20: don't call people 'fag' in the channel please, it's very immature and whatever.. [13:06] phrag: ok [13:06] xover (~xover@host86-160-171-236.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:06] Necos, ok [13:06] thanks [13:06] i have a poison taster for that reason Delahunt :P [13:06] Necos, lol [13:06] you mean snL20 right? 8-) [13:06] lol [13:07] he hasn't died yet... we call him 'cast iron stomach' [13:07] Action: fire|bird stabs Necos and runs. :) [13:08] korean food nom nom nom [13:08] slackie (~x@87.196.82.17) left irc: Changing host [13:08] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [13:08] Action: Necos chases fire|bird down and stabs him back [13:08] :) [13:08] haha [13:09] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. [13:09] Action: Delahunt plays "Run Like Hell" [13:09] Action: GooseYArd examines Necos wafers [13:10] xover (~xover@host86-160-171-236.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:10] hmm wafers [13:10] lol [13:11] so is there any slackbuild to repackage puel version of virtualbox or it's going to be my first contribution? [13:11] Action: Delahunt hates wafer connectors (aircraft wiring) [13:11] i seem to be missing a 'which' command on my install. what package is that in? [13:12] john_dee, virtualbox installer does a great job installing and removing, you don't really need it much [13:12] initself, you mean 'which' package is that [13:12] hey now [13:13] it's really hard to search for 'which'. [13:13] initself, on the install media there is a file called MANIFEST.bz2, if you decompress it (bunzip2 MANIFEST.bz2) and read it (less MANIFEST) you can find just about any program you want [13:13] initself: MANIFEST.bz2 is a great place to check that [13:13] in less, if you press the / key and type, it is a search tool [13:13] bzgrep bin/which MANIFEST.bz2 [13:13] press / subsequently to find another occurrence, etc [13:14] or that 8-) thanks ananke [13:14] although, forget the bzgrep advice. it wouldn't show you the package :) [13:14] but one may want to be in less for that so that one can page-up and find the package [13:14] Delahunt: ah, ok, tnx. it better be. dont want to pickup some random crap it leaves in the systm by hands [13:14] bzless then :) [13:14] john_dee, it was for me [13:14] ananke, thanks bro didn't know there was a bzless [13:15] Action: Delahunt has been bzcated [13:15] busybox [13:15] ls /var/log/packages/*which* sigh [13:15] Delahunt++ [13:15] ananke++ [13:16] i am searching busybox in PACKAGES.TXT and coming up empty? [13:16] initself: it's likely there isn't such package [13:16] hmm oh busybox? from the installer you mean? [13:16] lrwxrwxrwx root/root 0 2008-05-27 15:23 bin/which -> busybox [13:16] heh you don't have it though [13:17] from the PACKAGES.TXT file for 12.2 [13:17] wouldn't busybox be in there? [13:17] Euthanatos (~chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [13:17] initself: err busybox is for small systems/bootdisks etc [13:18] my paste is the output of bzgrep bin/which MANIFEST.bz2 [13:18] initself, does anything work on the system? Can you just grab it with slackpkg? [13:18] grab "what" exactly? [13:19] ./a/which/which-2.16.tar.gz [13:19] well on 13.0 which is the which package [13:19] ? [13:19] jesus [13:19] where? [13:19] so slackpkg install which [13:19] i see it now! [13:19] cant someone who has which grep their /var/log/packages ? :P [13:20] I want to change the date-time in a slackware box but all I've got is ssh access. Any idea? [13:20] nick4b: man date [13:20] ntpdate timex.usg.edu [13:21] hmmm wait [13:21] Elektro (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [13:21] snL20: "which" [13:21] ardya: heh... but that's the easy way ! =) [13:21] Action: Delahunt high fives thrice` [13:21] easier to run ntpd too [13:21] BP{k}: ok... [13:21] ananke: Thank you so much. You did cause I'm always hate Linux. You claim that the professor and the like Linux cause severe Darren always new things that Linux can escape. [13:22] o.O [13:22] Action: Necos blinks at that last statement [13:22] what in the world does that mean. in any language. [13:22] failure to parse .... [13:22] parse failure [13:22] snL20 EET is wrong, not the date itself! [13:22] Blue_Slacker86: omg... [13:22] he says he had the fish [13:22] nick4b: EET ? timezone ? [13:23] yes, timezone snL20 [13:23] Blue_Slacker86: i'll try to be as clear and simple as possible. i have no clue what you're talking about [13:23] nick4b: tzselect maybe [13:24] hmmm [13:24] nick4b: timeconfig to set the timezone. [13:24] ananke: Wow , tnx [13:24] nick4b: I dont know if its a different command on slackware [13:24] BP{k}: :-) [13:25] lol [13:25] snL20 I did it with date: date --set='...' [13:25] let's see timeconfig too [13:26] ah, yes the menu from the Setup [13:26] I'll keep that in mind if date --set fails [13:26] thanks snL20 and BP{k} [13:26] Blue_Slacker86: don't thank me. it wasn't a compliment [13:26] nick4b: ok cool no problem :) [13:28] nick4b: i'm guessing timeconfig is more permanent [13:28] nick4b: or it will be gone on a reboot [13:28] ohh i see [13:30] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:30] Another issue. I want to download a file and specify a destination directory but not a destination filename. Meaning I want to keep the original filename. wget -O *requires* I specify a destination filename. Any ideas? (except bash scripting to first extract the filename from the http headers) [13:31] dont usee -O ? [13:31] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [13:31] ardya and how do I tell wget to send the file to a subdir of my choice? [13:32] I dont know offhand, I'd have to do whjat you're going to do, read the man page [13:32] or use a different tool [13:32] if wget cant [13:34] nothing in man page except -O to specify a different destination (be it dir or new name) [13:35] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-210-87.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:36] nick4b, is this from a bash script? [13:36] that you want to do it? [13:36] dive what I want to do is part of a bash script [13:37] are Xeon processors all 64 bit? [13:37] any reason why you can't make a subthread like ( cd /some/dir; wget $file ) [13:38] then after the 2nd bracket you will return to the original dir [13:38] hxd (~hxd@unaffiliated/hxd) joined ##slackware. [13:39] nick4b: if it is part of a bash script it's even easier "downloadfile="blah.tar.gz" wget -c http:/site/dir/${downloadfile} -O $predefined_path/$downloadfile" [13:40] okey, I will take these two answers dive and BP{k} [13:40] no, theres a simpler way [13:40] if anyone would just read a man page [13:40] -P is for directory prefix, default is . [13:40] initself: some. [13:41] initself: grep lm /proc/cpuinfo will tell you [13:41] and you can also use -x which uses the url hostname as a the root directory and creates the subdirectory in current if it doesn't exist [13:42] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Quit: d ä_å b [13:43] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.249.169) joined ##slackware. [13:44] Skywise: heh, nice. I didn't know about wget -P :) [13:47] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [13:48] How sucessful would resiving a partition be if i need to make m. root 40GB bigger and me /home 40GB smaller? [13:48] s/resiving/resizing [13:49] well, you could make another partition the size you want, copy everything over and then mount it as home [13:49] Kenjiro (~kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) joined ##slackware. [13:49] I'm not worried about loosing what's in /home [13:49] good afternoon [13:49] in essence giving the space back to the root partition [13:49] anyone here running KDE-4.4.0? [13:50] Action: guax points to alienBOB [13:50] man, when will there be a moratorium on 4.4 questions [13:50] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [13:50] lol [13:50] I am and I would like to find out if anyonelse is having problems to connect to sftp server using dolphin [13:50] I just don't use kde [13:50] me neither [13:50] guax: problem is alienBOB is a bit... away ;) [13:50] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:50] =D [13:51] Kenjiro, people on #kde are using, try there first [13:51] I'm just now getting used to xfce. I'll probably go back to serving a few more years on fluxbox [13:51] i'm happy with my cli [13:51] that too [13:51] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-208-182.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:52] when I sized my partitions, I left out a zero on my root size... [13:52] doh [13:52] yeah. i went 60GB [13:53] want* [13:53] well there are ways to resize a partition, i haven't done it myself [13:53] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware. [13:53] nor have I. I may just do the safe choice. I saved the kernel source on my thumb drive. I may just reinstall [13:54] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:54] backup /etc too [13:54] but give it a try, and if it doesn't work then you can do a reinstall [13:54] nows the best time to see if it works [13:54] I didn't do much to this system. I'm using an OS based on slackware that pretty much came out of box perfect for me, other than my radeon hd 3200 card (hence the kernel) [13:54] Axius (~fd@92.84.28.219) joined ##slackware. [13:55] yeah, I'll have to do it later. I don't have a disk [13:56] :( as long as I have wvdial, wvstream and a kernel source, I don't need anything else [13:56] Action: Skywise shivers at the mention of dialup [13:57] I just make oldconfig first time for the kernel to sync up the options and then I'll just go through the menuconfig and take out all the crap I don't need, like intel drivers [13:57] yeah, it sucks. I was going to DL the ati binary drivers, but I don't need 100% 3d support. I just want smooth scrolling on webpages lol [13:57] guax: ok, someone already run the test I need on #slackware-br [13:58] I can't believe i made my root partition only 6GBs... [13:58] Kenjiro: for the sftp kioslave you will have to add libssh, which I refused because of the bad code [13:59] gtg [13:59] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:00] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) left irc: Quit: GoodBye - See you later [14:01] lol =P [14:01] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [14:02] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) joined ##slackware. [14:03] I need something to mirror a website, what's good for that? [14:03] Camarade_Tux wget -m [14:03] or -r [14:03] rsync [14:03] the manpage sais how you can do this [14:03] rsync???? [14:03] it won't change the links, will it? [14:03] it will :P [14:03] there was also something else but I can't remember the name [14:03] it has a special option for that too [14:04] curl [14:04] httrack ;-) [14:04] i'm presuming you're wanting to mirror a site thats your own [14:04] Camarade_Tux, your own website? [14:04] wget also has a spider mode [14:04] wget can also use ftp [14:04] for mirror it's quite good [14:05] now this is wierd, dmesg is sayign the USB HD loaded fine but lsusb doesn't recognize it [14:05] dive: nope: conal.net [14:05] alienBOB: I am checking with the guy who ran the test for me. [14:05] I'm not sure what's wrong now because I have no errors to google =P lol [14:05] Euthanatos, when something like that happens to me, i blame udev [14:06] eh? [14:07] Euthanatos = pleasant death [14:07] Good Death, not necessarily pleasant =) [14:08] Euthanasia = pleasant way to die [14:08] mohaa (~nome@92.49.77.229) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [14:08] what we, sometimes, do to animals so they don't suffer (from a certain death) [14:08] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:08] I mean this word is actually used in greek [14:08] and old people [14:09] gotta kill them off gradually, so they don't clog up the system [14:09] dtanner (~dtanner@24.174.7.64) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:09] dtanner (~dtanner@24.174.7.64) joined ##slackware. [14:09] il /win 11 [14:09] bleh [14:10] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ljtkbaitcudsgofr) left irc: Quit: xMDKx [14:13] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Quit: brb [14:13] haqe18 (~minty@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:14] do glibc and glibc-libidn versions need to be the same> [14:14] touch /dev/dsp [14:14] alienBOB: even after the release of 0.4.1? (libssh) [14:16] nick4b, i took it from a tradition of mage assassins in Mage: the Ascension P&P RPG [14:16] oh [14:16] I see EuroTrash [14:16] sorry [14:16] I see Euthanatos [14:16] best P&P RPG ever =) [14:17] Life. The best RPG EVAR. [14:17] ardya, too scarey ;-) [14:17] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:17] ardya: cool graphics, but the plot..is awful [14:18] thats what happens when you become dependent on others making your plot [14:18] no the plot is great john_dee [14:18] it's the metaplot that sucks [14:18] i think its the script [14:19] !trolling off [14:19] :) [14:19] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) left irc: Quit: GoodBye - See you later [14:19] anyway bbiab to see about this fix [14:19] Euthanatos (~chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:20] ardya: 'dependent on others' sucks even more. but that's part of it :p [14:21] mohaa (~nome@92.49.72.121) joined ##slackware. [14:21] unless you wanna farm and sew clothes, you will be dependent on others [14:21] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [14:21] maginot (~maginot@189.8.255.90) joined ##slackware. [14:21] Hi... when configuring bonding to two interface they have to have all the same ipaddress ? like I have two adsl links, which give me two adsl routers each one connected to a ethernet card, I must set both with the same ip address? [14:21] o/ howdy [14:21] hey mohaa [14:22] euklides_ (~chatzilla@h95-155-239-237.dynamic.se.alltele.net) joined ##slackware. [14:22] if i can start X as root, but i cant start X as user, anyone know why that would be? [14:23] http://codepad.org/WGjLXAtx [14:23] did you check the log? [14:23] log there [14:23] there isnt a single (EE) [14:23] Euthanatos (~chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [14:24] are you using the same wm for both? [14:24] epoch, permissions in users $HOME perhaps? [14:25] startx >xwin.log 2>&1 and then paste that [14:25] epoch, if you can add a test user and X starts ok for that user then I'd say something in $HOME [14:25] Action: epoch is helping someone else with this, one sec [14:26] it could be as simple as bad perms on the wm executable [14:26] yeah or a borked wm config file [14:26] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@h80ad23d5.async.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:27] his .xinitrc was nonexistent... *facepalm* [14:27] lol [14:27] all better now :) thanks guys [14:27] .xinitrc doesnt have to exist [14:27] it get's created auto doesn't it [14:27] no [14:27] well, that's how it was fixed oO [14:28] okay so this is really wierd, i get no dmesg error if I boot up with the USB HD plugged in, says the USB Mass Storage Driver loads up fine and that's pretty much it but nothing shows up in lsusb. If I unplug it or boot it up unplugged and the plug it in i get all these funky errors [14:28] does it get copied from somewhere? [14:28] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: Bye [14:28] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:28] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/ABdc6H16.html [14:28] I thought it was copied from /etc/X11/xinit/ [14:28] why would it be copied when the system one exists [14:28] euklides_ (~chatzilla@h95-155-239-237.dynamic.se.alltele.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:29] because each user can have a different one [14:29] right. the one they create, and edit [14:29] where's the system one? /etc/X11/? [14:30] /etc/X11/xinit/ [14:30] ardya, xwmconfig copies the file to users home [14:30] does anyone knows if DRM is enable in kernel 2.6.29.6 for via chipset? [14:30] Action: epoch apologizes for starting this [14:30] :( [14:30] lol [14:31] xwmconfig,aint that cute [14:31] thanks for the heads up [14:31] np [14:31] cp /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ~/.xinitrc #what he did to fix it [14:31] well, it's one of those things that you take for granted... so it's a good thing to know [14:32] john_dee (~id@95-29-9-151.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [14:32] I Just Said No to slackware on the desktop(R) around '99-'00 :) [14:32] .xinitrc gets created only if user is created w/ useradd.. not if created w/ adduser, right? [14:32] no [14:32] I didnt see .xinitrc in /etc/skel [14:33] there IS a .xsession though [14:33] hrm [14:33] which if I recall correctly, only gets reqd if you're using runlevel 4 [14:34] epoch, useradd doesnt even create $HOME [14:34] if you use useradd you have to do that yourself manually [14:34] ardya, so what do you run on your desktop? i'm curious [14:35] fedora/debian/ubuntu/opensuse [14:36] my advanced networking instructor says suse is 2nd to none for networking since novell took over...i mentioned slackware and he called it a 'dinosaur distro' [14:36] my servers are slackware, but soon I'll be migrating off that too [14:36] fedora and opensuse are probably the better of the bunch [14:37] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [14:38] cd Dominian [14:38] ls [14:38] ops [14:38] ubuntu for converting M$ users :) [14:38] Sorry [14:38] lol [14:38] :) [14:38] haha [14:38] "the disadvantages of irssi" ;) [14:38] how does the distro affect 'networking' anyway? is he using it as a router? [14:38] it doesnt [14:38] he's a novell advocate... [14:39] then he's just spamming FUD [14:39] Action: epoch nods [14:39] madbear (~dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:39] he's the same guy that said use "cisco" as your line vty 0 4 password... [14:39] >.> [14:39] and he teaches "advanced networking" [14:39] and 'private' as your SNMP rw string [14:40] Necos, yes, i witness much fail in there [14:40] Action: HaMpA slaps alienBOB around with a pink Macintosh [14:40] Action: Necos wonders why anyone is trying to slap TheBOB... [14:40] Action: epoch slaps HaMpA one time with alienBOB's slackbuild repo [14:40] dicing with death [14:40] you will not recover. [14:42] Action: HaMpA sends some DDoS in epoch's direction [14:43] Action: Necos thinks HaMpA needs to go to ##slackware-offtopic [14:43] :) [14:43] slackware is kind of ancient regarding networking, no? [14:45] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:45] do you mean something specific by 'networking'? if you just mean connecting to other computers, slackware does it fine [14:45] commenting on the "dinosaur distro" comment above [14:45] of course, but it uses very old tools to do so [14:45] madbear (~dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [14:45] thrice`, in 13.0, when you boot, remember <13.0 what tux looked like at the top?, i cant make out what's going on now, is he wearing a mask or what? [14:46] here, I'll google the article for you [14:46] epoch: tazmanian devil [14:46] last i checked, slack came with the latest version of iproute2 [14:46] oO [14:46] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:46] nooper, read the init scripts, though [14:46] chb (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [14:47] thrice`: are you saying that slack doesn't have the latest tools or that init uses the older ones? [14:47] if you are talking about iputils, all distros use ancient networking tools :p [14:47] epoch, http://ostatic.com/blog/tux-heads-to-undisclosed-location-for-2-6-29-kernel-cycle-tuz-to-stand-in [14:47] iputils + dhcpcd3 is kinda old [14:48] well, 5 is in current [14:49] _dieter_ (~dieter@p54BED521.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] is it ipv6 capable? [14:49] thrice`, thanks for clearing that up, everytime i booted id ask myself "what is that?" ;) [14:50] sahk0, doesn't count :) [14:50] I can I see my graphic card? [14:51] can you? [14:51] lol [14:51] Action: epoch uses ifconfig + afraid.org + tunnelbroker.net for great ipv6 justice [14:51] so, how is 13.1 coming along? [14:51] _dieter_ (~dieter@p54BED521.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:52] i see that alien has 13.1 compat packages now [14:52] cant be that far away then no? [14:53] it will be awhile, I suspect [14:53] mrpuff (~mrpuff@202.154.57.149) joined ##slackware. [14:53] hello [14:53] help me [14:53] lol [14:53] haha [14:53] halp! [14:54] Action: epoch adds zinc to NaCl to turn pennies silver [14:54] Mr-S^b32 (~Mr-S^b32@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:54] >.> [14:55] why slackware 13 can do LD_PRELOAD [14:56] why slackware 13 cannot do LD_PRELOAD [14:56] so you cant h4x [14:57] window [14:58] lol [14:58] why slackware 13 cannot do LD_PRELOAD? [14:58] so you cant h4x [14:59] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: bóra! [15:00] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [15:00] lol [15:01] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-208-182.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:01] mrpuff (mrpuff@202.154.57.149) left ##slackware. [15:02] Kenjiro (~kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) left irc: Quit: gone [15:02] mrpuff is your last name magicDragon? [15:03] window? [15:04] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:04] door? [15:05] I wish I knew [15:05] filthy crawlspace full of spiders and cobwebs [15:05] find a clean crawlspace to play in [15:06] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-229-248.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [15:06] maginot (~maginot@189.8.255.90) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [15:06] my parents could not afford a house with a basement so i have to live in the crawlspace [15:08] Action: HaMpA throws a keyboard at epoch [15:08] Action: epoch tosses NaCl into HaMpA's eyes [15:09] you will not recover! [15:09] who need eyes anyway [15:09] he'll never look you in the eye again [15:09] I just got a new (used hdd) ... it's /dev/sde (sde1) and it contains a NTFS partition I believe... and 'su: cfdisk /dev/sde' won't let me repartition it so I can reformat it with truecrypt... any ideas ? [15:09] overated [15:09] ty epoch [15:09] <3 [15:10] you can't do that. [15:10] linXea, you don't need to repartition it I think, just format it. [15:10] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:10] scrollback_time = 4day [15:11] dive, truecrypt won't let me format it until I remove all existing partitions on it [15:11] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:11] that's the issue.. [15:11] hmm strange [15:11] umount it linXea then run cfdisk /dev/sde [15:11] it isn't even mounted [15:12] hmm, write zeros to it with dd ? [15:12] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:12] then make new partitions with your filesystem of choice [15:12] linXea: define 'won't let me repartition'. [15:12] Pig_Pen, and what exactly would I type for that? been a while since I had to fool around with this stuff [15:12] dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sde [15:13] hey E-WolfShade what model Gateway netbook you have? [15:13] ops [15:13] sorry [15:13] FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 0: Partition ends in the final partial cylinder - Press any key to exit cfdisk [15:13] make damn sure it is /dev/sde or you could be wiping out the wrong disk!!! [15:13] this is the error I get when su: cfdisk /dev/sde [15:13] Pig_Pen, Im sure it's sde ;-) check like 10 times [15:14] linXea: can you pastebin the output of 'fdisk -l /dev/sde' ? [15:14] mattlafy (~matt@CPE000fcb36ca0d-CM00122540231e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [15:14] yeah, somebody used windows to make that partition on this disk, windows has some crappy disk partitioning tools [15:14] ^^ word ! But it was free [15:14] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Quit: fui [15:14] Lafy (~matt@CPE000fcb36ca0d-CM00122540231e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:15] __epoch (~jcj@cpe-67-240-165-174.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:15] free is good, cant beat that price, dd some zeros on it and make new partitions and you should be all set [15:15] I had the same issue on one of my servers when I had LVM partitions that I wanted to repartition [15:15] __epoch (jcj@cpe-67-240-165-174.rochester.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:15] __epoch (~jcj@cpe-67-240-165-174.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:16] http://www.pastebin.org/93220 [15:16] Action: ananke doesn't see anybody saying 'linux has some crappy disk partitioning tools' after this comment [15:16] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [15:17] any ideas ? ... shooting blanks here =p [15:17] try dd [15:17] linXea: indeed, it ends at 91202, while the disk seems to have only 91201 cylinders [15:17] [08:12] « Pig_Pen» dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sde [15:17] linXea: run fdisk, type 'd', then '1', then 'w' [15:17] fdisk /dev/sde that is [15:17] __epoch (~jcj@cpe-67-240-165-174.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:18] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-213-87.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] Mr-S^b32 (~Mr-S^b32@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:18] Mr-S^b32 (~Mr-S^b32@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:18] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:19] woo, ananke, your highness, you just saved my day.. Im sure your idea with dd Pig_Pen / dive had worked just as good though =) [15:19] __epoch (~jcj@cpe-67-240-165-174.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:20] would have taken much longer though [15:20] newbie2010 (~newbie201@41.252.29.124) joined ##slackware. [15:20] yeah.. but I still need to write 00000 to it [15:21] nah, you didn't need to wipe it completely like that [15:21] windows is the only os i ever seen that screws up the cylinder boundries like that [15:21] ... but I still need to do that now.. [15:21] linXea: have you tried using fdisk? [15:22] I'm back ... did anyone miss me? [15:22] windows isn't the only os that does antics like that. often enough disks moved from one machine to another display that issue: wrong geometry [15:22] ananke, yes, and that worked.. just amazed that cfdisk didn't work.. [15:22] linXea: because linux tools are not always the best ones [15:23] In my primitive mind I though that cfdisk and fdisk should work about the same... just that Im too comfortable with cfdisk [15:23] linXea: anyway, if fdisk worked, why do you think you need to zero it out? [15:23] *thought [15:23] ananke, I need to do that before I apply truecrypt AES 512-bit encryption on it [15:24] linXea: why? [15:24] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@h80ad23d5.async.vt.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:24] sata is an evolution of ata, sas is an evolution of scsi ,,, where this clasification put ide [please explain] [15:24] Axius (~fd@92.84.28.219) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:24] ananke, I can't create the encryption without performing that first.. don't sak me why [15:25] ata is the evolution of ide [15:25] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:25] sahk0 (~sahk0@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [15:25] linXea: i'm curious why you think that you need to do that. does truecrypt not work without it? [15:25] Integrated Digital Electronics - moved some of the smarts from the computer I/O card to the drive [15:26] ananke, in the setup for new volume it does that by default.. no way around it =S.. [15:27] well, always a pleasure asking for some assistance here.... [15:30] Action: BP{k} likes lftp for mirroring ... [15:30] cmk_zzz (~martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [15:30] uhm .. bah. scroollback fail [15:32] BP{k}: soo much fail [15:33] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.56.40.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:33] sahk0 (~sahk0@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:38] hmmmm [15:38] sundaymorning (~root@189.107.184.230) joined ##slackware. [15:38] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!root@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [15:38] sundaymorning kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [15:39] sundaymorning (~root@189.107.184.230) joined ##slackware. [15:39] sundaymorning kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: You are banned [15:40] thanks alisonken1home , that helped a lot. [15:40] IDE is just another name for ATA [15:40] and there are too many different standard out there of ATA [15:40] ATA-1 up to ATA-8 [15:41] ATA-7 = SATA [15:44] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [15:45] nick4b (~nick4b@77.49.252.96.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Quit: nick4b [15:45] does anyone knows how can i convert Yahoo Messenger archive (.dat files) into .txt? strings can help? [15:46] delt0r (~delt0r@80-123-63-215.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:47] mattlafy (~matt@CPE000fcb36ca0d-CM00122540231e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:48] chb (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:49] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:50] B4RR13N705 (~B4RR13N70@host75.190-231-194.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [15:52] sluckxz (~sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:53] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.56.40.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:53] hi, im having a strange issue: When i start X, the /usr/bin/X process consume about 5% of my RAM. The problem is that the X process RAM gets higher from time to time. Ive stopped some hours ago cause it was eating 30% of my RAM... that is not normal.. never happened to me before... Does anybody knows whats the problem, and how to solve it? [15:53] enmodal (~matt@99-60-72-168.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:54] how is linux using memory not normal? [15:54] and what told you its a problem? [15:56] ardya, that process starts by consuming 5% of my RAM and ends up consuming 30% [15:56] Linux never releases memory unless it has to or has been explicitly told to do so. 100% memory usage is normal. However, if the buffers/cache start to fill up and swap space is being used it is a problem [15:57] B4RR13N705: you're not answering my questions though [15:57] what good is RAM if it is never used? cached ram is good because it is faster and better response than reading off the disk [15:57] ardya, it grows higher. My system doesnt consume more than 100 MB of RAM.. now, its suddenly one process eating 30% [15:58] and thats a problem how? [15:58] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424508.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [15:58] it seems strange to me, as it never happened to me.. [15:58] ... [15:58] X usage can go up because of the apps running too [15:58] so its now a problem? [15:58] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424508.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:58] are you sure its 30% and not 3.0% ? [15:58] not a problem? [15:58] no [15:58] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:59] Pig_Pen, im seeing it with HTOP [15:59] screenshot! [16:00] Pig_Pen, ive killed the process some minutes ago.. ill keep here, and take a screenshot when it reaches 30%.. just give some time.. [16:00] Action: haqe18 is making love to his machine awwww yeaahhhhhhhh [16:00] Azeotrope: depending on the version, the .dat files are (or at least were) XOR'd. [16:01] i wonder if it is just a xorg.conf problem? or possibly he just needs an xorg.conf to optimize X [16:01] chb (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [16:01] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-213-87.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [16:01] delt0r (~delt0r@62-47-150-46.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [16:01] B4RR13N705: run X -configure and take a look at /root/xorg.conf.new [16:03] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [16:04] B4RR13N705 (~B4RR13N70@host75.190-231-194.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:05] B4RR13N705 (~alpha@host75.190-231-194.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [16:05] what does the --target option passed to ./configure mean ? [16:07] sluckxz (~sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Changing host [16:07] sluckxz (~sluckxz@unaffiliated/sluckxz) joined ##slackware. [16:08] B4RR13N705 (~alpha@host75.190-231-194.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Client Quit [16:08] B4RR13N705 (~B4RR13N70@host75.190-231-194.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [16:12] hage18: depends on the ./configure - browse through it and see what it does [16:13] i was thinkin of trying alien bobs kde 4.4 but i m running 13. does slackpkg do a decent job of upgrading to current? [16:13] what version are you running now? [16:13] chb (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Quit: inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris [16:14] sorry - 13 [16:14] yes, slackpkg does a good job - just make sure to read the notes since there was a change in libata (which means hda becomes sda) [16:15] does that mean even pate ( ide ) drives will be known as sda ??? [16:15] yes [16:16] pata (ide) was hda, but the switch to libata means that pata (ide) is now sda [16:16] so basuically edit fstab before/after upgrading and you wil be fne ? [16:16] or rather sdX [16:16] there's a little more than that, since lilo will have an issue, but effectively, yes [16:17] ok got the point. but in the end its a painless upgrade :) [16:17] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-57-186.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:17] except for that change, yes [16:17] :) getting staring now [16:18] read the notes at output from slackpkg or at aliens mirror? [16:18] .. ( I need a new keyboard ! ) [16:18] I already browsed some of aliens regarding 4.4 [16:18] alien's notes are always good [16:20] huh, where what kde 4.4? [16:21] alienBOB has a set of test kde 4.4 packages on his site - not ready for slackware yet [16:21] kde 4.4 is said to be faster than 4.2. can anyone confirm this myth ? 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[17:57] nooper: they can if they hook into kernel modules :) [17:57] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:57] ah [17:57] militant: force unload the vbox kernel module(s) [17:57] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:59] adaptr: rmmod'd all 3 then kill -9 12202 still there [18:00] try kill -19 [18:00] are the modules gone ? [18:00] it's VBoxSVC [18:00] no effect [18:00] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:01] adaptr: yeah modules dno't show in lsmod anymore [18:01] jonsmith1982 (~jon@cpc2-donc1-0-0-cust57.barn.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:01] militant 12202 96.5 0.0 0 0 ? Zl 15:41 134:28 [VBoxSVC] [18:02] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:02] it really says "ZI" ? [18:02] ehm... yes. [18:02] what's that mean anyway [18:02] odd [18:02] it could mean it's hung in IO [18:02] did i break it [18:04] there's newish udevd proceses. are those associated with vbox in any way? i wouldn't guess how [18:05] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. [18:05] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [18:06] if it's the sun version, could be USB [18:06] yeah, it is. just plain old virtualbox. been fiddling with arch on it [18:06] hrad (~lisak@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:08] eh, i'll just reboot. [18:08] the only way to kill a zombie is with a wooden stake or a silverbullet, if those fail a reboot will surely get rid of it [18:09] i've never understood why they can't just get wiped [18:10] Skywise: init has control in theory [18:17] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [18:18] Skywise: in theory the kernel should handle it [18:18] its up to the parent [18:19] if the parent just missed the sigchld, you can send one and get it to reap [18:19] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.47.15) joined ##slackware. [18:19] if the parent explicitly ignores sigchld, the pid will get freed [18:19] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:20] but you wouldnt want the kernel to free up the process entry before you had a chance to wait on it [18:22] agris (1000@85.254.251.139) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:22] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:25] yay sold my old 1gb memory stick to my eee on ebay for 41 [18:25] er $1 [18:27] agris (1000@85.254.251.139) joined ##slackware. [18:29] As in, Sony Memory Stick? You didn't have to pay someone to take it off your hands? [18:29] no as in 1GB RAM [18:29] the old stick (upgraded to 2GB) [18:30] ahh. more ram eekwals moar bettarrrrrr [18:30] Action: Delahunt nods [18:30] jonsmith1982 (~jon@cpc2-donc1-0-0-cust57.barn.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:30] just got my 16gb ssd and 16gb sd hc in, slackware-current installing right now [18:31] SlashQuit (~SlashQuit@c-76-25-54-227.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:31] hi everyone [18:34] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:34] greetings nachox [18:35] xdan779 (~dduncan_3@64-233-207-75.static.nap.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [18:36] HaMpA (~kompaesf@88.86.50.38) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:36] koppe (~koppe@ip-34-9-248-87.eidsiva.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:37] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:43] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. 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[19:28] yeah, the heart attack is weaksauce, but that's an awesome prank :) [19:29] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:30] russia will probably give him a job working on government computers after a slap on the wrist [19:30] spmd (~loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [19:31] give him a fake passport and send him to dubai... liven things up. [19:31] i thought it was a funny prank, too bad he got caught, and too bad about the heart attack, but the old guy was probably overdue for a heart attack and would have had one sooner or later anyway [19:32] Pig_Pen, yep... [19:32] it reminds me of that movie hackers, back in the day [19:36] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [19:37] Xaviertoor (~Xaviertoo@189.52.126.231) joined ##slackware. [19:39] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.26.254) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:40] escaflown (~elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:40] escaflown (elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [19:44] hi [19:44] fast question - web page where can be slackbuild script generated [19:44] ? [19:45] ok, found it ;) [19:51] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: I'm not a quitter, I just had to go [19:51] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] i think Pat V. should include a slackbuild script template with every slackware install in /home and a slackbuild.README file right along side it [19:52] He wont spoon feed you like that. [19:53] phrag, around? [19:53] actually, it wouldn't be a bad idea to include something like that in the first email [19:53] the slackbuild.README [19:53] but you already know how to do it [19:54] for new users... [19:54] not for me, i am way past using slackbuilds, i was thinking of the noobs [19:54] i like slackbuilds, heh... helps with being a slacker [19:55] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:56] razec_ (1000@189-92-32-54.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:56] Razec (1000@189-92-32-54.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:57] helps if often reinstalled system and some packages not included anywhere [19:57] i love slackbuilds and am nowhere past that. kinda sucks but i am so thankful for slackbuilds from everyone. gives a newb/me so much more understanding of compile options. [19:58] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.249.169) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:59] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [20:00] Pig_Pen: so, you just install it straight onto your system? [20:00] i think he just means he builds his own tgz packages [20:00] sans slackbuilds [20:00] BP{k}: ever year of makepkg? [20:01] hear* [20:01] no? what's that? [20:01] does that come with slackware? [20:02] lol [20:02] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-214-127.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [20:02] heh :) [20:03] *idea* [20:03] Nick change: ente -> {arch} [20:03] how is makepkg superior to slackbuilds? [20:04] because it doesn't compress manpages? fix linking? info pages? docs? [20:06] nothing Pig_Pen ? I was hoping to learn something [20:06] <{arch}> makepkg as in archlinux makepkg? [20:06] Nick change: {arch} -> ente [20:07] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.62.107) joined ##slackware. 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[20:16] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:16] ananke: serial? They tap directly on their ISA bus! [20:17] isa? what, are you from the future, man? microchannel ftw [20:17] fraktil_ (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] Dude..I just came from MILWAUKEE [20:17] They have that kind of technology [20:17] fraktil_ (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:17] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:18] newbie2010 (~newbie201@41.252.49.224) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:18] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-220-202.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:18] hiptobecubic (~john@75.111.175.180) joined ##slackware. [20:19] hiptobecubic (~john@75.111.175.180) left irc: Changing host [20:19] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [20:19] newbie2010 (~newbie201@41.252.16.140) joined ##slackware. [20:20] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) joined ##slackware. [20:23] ananke, that explains why real men starved to death many many years ago, their managers, who werent real men valued performance more than that other thing and fired them all :P [20:24] fundamental (~fundament@li48-162.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [20:24] :) [20:24] This is so bizzare. For some reason hulu.com claims my connection is too slow to play videos while other people on the same network can watch it fine. I tried firing up windows 7 in vm on the same machine and it works fine in there. What could be the problem? [20:25] Anyone here ever experience an alsa setup, where the oss emulation layer responds quicker than alsa itself? [20:26] alkos333: 64bit linux? [20:26] yes [20:26] Slackware64 13.0 [20:26] alkos333: hulu is broken for 64bit flash on linux, has been for awhile now, there is lots of discussion of it on their forums [20:27] That sucks. [20:27] alkos333: the hulu desktop works with limited success [20:27] mine just segfaults on 64-bit :> [20:27] CcSsNET (~user@c-71-232-198-164.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:27] jar_corefile (~jar_coref@76.210.61.157) joined ##slackware. [20:28] no response from hulu on the issue in the last couple months [20:30] works fine on my 64 bit laptop, but it's probably the 32 bit flash [20:30] no segfaults here [20:31] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. [20:32] AbsTradELic (1000@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [20:32] use "file" to see - I bet it is [20:33] yep [20:34] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:43] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:45] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:46] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [20:46] __epoch (~jcj@cpe-67-240-165-174.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:46] damn... metasploit has so many dependencies... [20:47] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:47] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) joined ##slackware. [20:48] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) left irc: Client Quit [20:49] j0z (~lhp@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:52] nachox: if you don't need the latest version, what about using backtrack? [20:52] i do need the latest [20:53] then good luck :) [20:53] dhabyx (~dhabyx@190.149.96.23) joined ##slackware. [20:53] dhabyx (~dhabyx@190.149.96.23) left irc: Changing host [20:53] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:54] j0z (~lhp@201.47.30.88) joined ##slackware. [20:54] j0z (~lhp@201.47.30.88) left irc: Changing host [20:54] j0z (~lhp@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. 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[21:38] __epoch (~jcj@cpe-67-240-165-174.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:38] akiwiguy (765a8658@gateway/web/freenode/x-gbsobdatdvgwegti) left ##slackware. [21:41] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-125-201.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:42] heya,folks [21:44] AbsTradELic (1000@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:51] I want to copy this file cp config-generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp /usr/src/linux/.config and I get this : cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/src/linux/.config': No such file or [21:52] what should I do to copy that file? [21:52] does /usr/src/linux actually exist? [21:53] also use the full path for the sourcefile and make sure the name is absolutly correct, bash does not handle typos well [21:53] /usr/src/linux-2.6.32.8 [21:53] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-209-042.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:54] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-76-226.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] briareus (~briareus@ip24-251-35-116.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] briareus (~briareus@ip24-251-35-116.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Changing host [21:55] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [21:55] maybe ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.32.8 /usr/src/linux [21:55] i keep the kernel source in /home and symlink to/as /usr/src/linux [21:56] it worked. [21:56] don [21:57] t [21:57] peacedog (~peacedog@pool-71-254-81-30.lyncva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:58] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:58] fatalnix (~Fatalnix@spirit.ggxmain.com) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [21:59] don't do it that way, follow exactly the approach Gregg K H explained in: http://www.kroah.com/lkn [21:59] talso (~talso@S010600a0b14743f5.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:00] had fun keeping this baby up today: http://dimeshake.com/omgwtf.png [22:01] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:02] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [22:02] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [22:03] I want to compile chrome9 for via chipset into the kernel. [22:03] Kamel- (klo_958@c-76-123-106-217.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [22:04] so do it [22:04] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [22:05] never heard of chrome9. is this in the kernel source? or do you have to apply a patch? [22:06] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:06] I want to apply a patch. [22:07] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Reset by Beer [22:07] i dont do much patching myself, i would suggest following the instructions from the people that made the patch [22:08] what kernel compression do I need to chose? Kernel compression mode 1. Gzip (KERNEL_GZIP) (NEW) Bzip2 (KERNEL_BZIP2) (NEW) LZMA (KERNEL_LZMA) (NEW) [22:09] gzip is fine [22:09] i just use the default and copy over bzImage to /boot [22:09] ps, you're on question 1 of about 100. no need to ask us on all of them :) [22:10] sounds like he is in over his head [22:10] not everyone is el33t as you Pig_Pen, with your makepkg-only skillz [22:11] Axius, if you really need small size, LZMA. if you really need decompression speed, GZip. however, we're talking fractions of seconds or less than a megabyte of difference here so it really don't matter much [22:11] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:11] Action: Delahunt wonders if using lzma would trim down the size of the man pages in slackware but doesn't care much [22:12] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:12] ok [22:15] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:15] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [22:16] i'm happy now... i just finished installing metasploit [22:16] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:16] The Framework is useful. [22:17] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [22:19] aahh slackware on a netbook 16gb ssd with 16gb hd sd card as well [22:20] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:20] gaz- (~gaz@xvm-12-22.ghst.net) joined ##slackware. [22:21] Stx_ (stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [22:21] less than 2gb, neat [22:22] Pig_Pen (~anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:22] Stx (stx@freenode/staff/stx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:22] dasffffasdasdfasdfafljff [22:23] lies! [22:24] frigg, lay off [22:26] Skaperen_ (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:27] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:27] gaz-_ (~gaz@xvm-12-22.ghst.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:27] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [22:28] jar_corefile (~jar_coref@76.210.61.157) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:29] wtf. my gnome has lost window borders etc. can't type in most text boxes. [22:29] sounds like you're witnessing a crash in progress [22:30] no it's on login [22:30] i installed xmonad and logged out to switch to it, it wouldn't load, and now gnome gives me no wm [22:30] militant, you dont have compiz installed, do you? [22:31] i do. [22:31] simplex (~simplex@twopenguins.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:32] turn it off for a minute if you can [22:32] _fraktil_ (~fraktil@cneerouter.sbcc.edu) joined ##slackware. [22:32] no effects? or ... i am not sure how to disable it? [22:33] _fraktil_ (fraktil@cneerouter.sbcc.edu) left ##slackware. [22:34] simplex (~simplex@twopenguins.it) joined ##slackware. [22:34] no effects [22:34] i have no effects to begin with [22:35] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:35] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. [22:36] peacedog (~peacedog@pool-71-254-81-30.lyncva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Peace out ;-) [22:37] nachox: no effects is what i'm set at anyway. why? [22:38] militant, because what youre seeing is the kind of thing compiz does when it fscks [22:38] how did you install gnome, militant ? [22:38] i actually forget. i've been using it without a problem for a long time now [22:39] manwich-laptop (~chatzilla@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [22:40] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-61-114.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Quit: Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug. [22:40] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:42] Nick change: Urchlay_ -> Urchlay [22:43] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.60) left irc: Quit: velusip [22:47] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-61-114.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:48] ok, i'm off to bed, night guys [22:49] New parts YEAH! plus my mobo with bad caps is still under warranty, cold beer wife n kids are in a good mood! YEAYEA! [22:49] newbie2010 (~newbie201@41.252.16.140) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:50] Axius (~fd@92.84.19.3) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [22:50] Action: Delahunt got his 16gb ssd mini-pcie and 16gb sd hc tonight [22:51] I've been thinking about getting a ssd for my laptop [22:51] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.47.15) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:52] Axius (~fd@92.84.9.99) joined ##slackware. [22:52] like a 60? so bloody expensive still. [22:52] yeah, that's why I don't have one yet [22:53] i might not get another laptop when mine dies go netbook and maybe then try my first ssd. [22:54] but its about the 3rd most powerful pc i have and might make a decent htpc, never tried vga to hd to a 1080p tv. batterie dead and its at that laptop age... [22:55] sluckxz, refurbished asus 900a eee pc netbook for $170 ftw [22:55] about the cheapest way to get an actual working computer in a small size [22:56] netbooks are great, but the small screen size gets old pretty quick [22:56] then i would definitely have to get that ssd. but yea looks cool. [22:57] good for traveling and occasional use [22:57] which command do I have to run to see my graphic card? [22:57] i m actually using the heck out of my blackberry now that my battery sucks so bad. [22:57] danc3, if it's only for portability, it works for me [22:57] Axius: lspci (as root) [22:57] but yeah it does get old quick if you use it as your primary [22:57] I believe that's what I said... [22:57] Action: Delahunt shrugs [22:57] lost in the scroll clutter [22:57] manwich-laptop (~chatzilla@97.86.29.42) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:57] but any laptop/netbook has to be able to carry several divx on vacation and run remote desktop client as well as nxclient. [22:57] 8-) [22:58] ok [22:58] nu usb out the side either, thats for the kids. [22:58] sluckxz: that isn't an issue [22:59] Action: Delahunt uses his mainly to have a portable recording station / audio player / image editor / sound editor / office workstation (stuff for being the leader of a band) [22:59] lol [23:00] portable recording? those parts i just got are for a protools laptop with a digidesign interface. [23:00] well not professional recording mind you, just pastor's sermon (i.e. speech, for archive purposes) [23:00] cool [23:01] Delahunt: you record your pastor? [23:01] its not mine either, i wish. [23:01] danc3, he wanted us/me to [23:01] why? [23:01] mohaa (~nome@92.49.72.121) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:01] for historical purposes i believe [23:01] I see [23:01] Action: Delahunt has no clue why and really doesn't mind enough to ask [23:01] lot of churchs put up podcasts. [23:02] yeah thanks for reminding me, i think they want to put up "podcasts" (although there's no "pod" in this process lol) [23:03] yea dragging the old school into the digital age, my mom was blown away when i taught her to drag and drop [23:03] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:03] well my mom is an art and graphic design teacher so she's surgical with adobe CS and owns expensive macs but otherwise she's a newbie too [23:03] my dad is still a newbie as well [23:07] why I get this msg:This feature depends on another which has been configured as a module /As a result, this feature will be built as a module. how can I compile not as a module? [23:07] change the other feature from module to built-in [23:07] Axius, look at the help and find out what it depends on and make that <*> as well [23:08] it's acount VIA chipset support. [23:09] My mother knows html. writes webpages with notepad.. yea. windows notepad.. She refuses to use anything other than "the standard" because of a bad experience with Commodore in the 1980s, gave up and bought a 486 in 1991 "I will only buy ibm clones from now on, and use whatever the most prevalent OS is available at the time" she's stuck to that for almost 20 years... heh [23:10] lets see a page. [23:10] or it didnt happen. [23:11] artv61 (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] http://www.angelfire.com/super/badwebs/ [23:12] i hate that, should i, no but i want to. [23:12] hehe [23:13] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [23:13] I dunno what she writes, just know that she taught herself html a while back when she and my sister ran an ebay store. Now she does it for herself, and some internal stuff for EF Foundation. the outside pages are all done commercially, but she helped em figure out a better layout for student listings and such. [23:14] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:16] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. [23:16] i was jj break19 that is pretty cool especially being involved with EFF? i have an uncle that i conquered supermario with way back in the day. good times. [23:17] heh, slack stuff! more after this commercials [23:17] Action: pupit ti ra pa pa ra pam.. [23:17] back [23:18] sluckxz: my mother is an IEC for the surrounding area down in my part of the USA [23:19] pupit: lol [23:20] pupit: you could have been more helpful with that kernel compiling. [23:20] besides its obviously working fine for most in here. [23:20] compiling? what kernel compiling? [23:21] patrick did a great job as always [23:21] from Axius alisonken1home helped him. [23:22] oh... well I just open the irc window to see who is chattin' [23:22] chubs (~chubs@c-71-233-150-243.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:23] but if people would prefer me to stop rambling especially considering i m not here that often and my huge ego would be hurt... just say so, besides pupit. [23:23] no no, you go ramblin' n ramblin' [23:23] What's the brown spot on the Biden's forehead? [23:24] CcSsNET (~user@c-71-232-198-164.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:24] pupit: seriously jj you might have missed my beer posts. [23:24] is this slackware? [23:24] lol [23:24] CcSsNET (~user@c-71-232-198-164.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:25] what time is there in states? 11pm-midnight? [23:25] pupit: no, it's been an alt. reality for a while now. [23:25] 8.25 pacific [23:26] agentc0re: gee I missed my ticket for avatar :) [23:27] I will be some hot german big boobed babe... alles klar!? gut gut... [23:29] yesterday I had some trouble setting up samba with anonymous guests logon, after a while, solved it [23:30] pupit, xp? [23:30] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:30] only on one forum I have found that I have to add the line "restrict anyonimus = no" to global [23:30] no, both pc-s are linux [23:31] but sometimes I take my eee to friends [23:32] the config file really needs it spelled "anyonimus"? [23:32] anonymous [23:33] my mistake Urchlay [23:33] that reminds me of the so-called programmer I worked with who'd write a method with 3 variables called emploeeID, mployeeID, and employee_id [23:34] ah, OK, the config file wants it spelled correctly. [23:34] I can't remember the word, on serbian is simple: anonimus [23:34] hm, yeah, that's a more logical way to spell it [23:34] so, eh, can you tell I'm bored? :) [23:35] not quite [23:35] lets play chess [23:35] d4 [23:35] :D [23:35] ehh, I'd need to dig out the board and set it up, I can't really play in my head [23:36] (if you're able to picture the entire board in your head, I wouldn't be much of a challenge to you anyway) [23:37] I've played monopoly an hour ago in vbox on xp. challenge to dual athlon 5000+ was 100% so I shut it down after a while.. [23:37] damn monopoly.... [23:37] Beware of Mr Moneybags...:D [23:37] Urchlay: playing chess blind is fun .. althoguh after the 4th move by both sides things get damn confusing :) [23:38] not to mention rather headache inducing. [23:38] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:38] BP{k}: I meant e4 :p [23:39] e7-e5 [23:39] also I learned the "pawn to king 4" style of notation, "e4" requires me to actually count rows/columns :( [23:39] pupit: I used to be able to go to 6-8 moves with a friend of mine. but I was younger then, and sober. ;) [23:40] drunken chess master! [23:40] beer empedes chess no matter how much you don't want it to [23:40] BP{k}: my friend is a chessmaster he beat me all the time, and always laughed like a fool at me... [23:41] lol...checkmate and a black eye...@_O [23:41] most humiliating chess game ever: getting beat by a guy who started out buzzed, and drank 4 more shots of vodka during the game [23:41] pupit: you need to remember the golden rule of chess then [23:41] Urchlay: lol [23:41] pupit: Magnum .44 beats a king. [23:41] lol [23:41] lol [23:42] my friend used to refer to the trigger guard of his 9mm glock as a "ring of dungeon master control" [23:42] hehe [23:42] crashdata (~crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:42] kde 4.4 is awesome :) thanks to alienbob :P [23:43] here in serbia we say horse instead of knight. it's a good joke when you play chess and just when you pick a knight you like the opponent in the eyes and say: I like playing with horses... [23:43] s/like/look [23:43] hehehe. [23:44] what do you call the castle/rook piece? [23:44] you probably wouldn't want to say that in Tijuana, Mexico [23:44] Urchlay: we say it top [23:44] top means rook [23:45] I'm known to call the queen "the bitch", but it isn't really a standard thing to do... [23:45] brokedown, prolly....that and donkeys [23:45] MLanden: exactly [23:46] my friend tried to teach his girlfriend to play chess.. she took the both queens - facepalm [23:47] tried to play on a "simpsons" chess set, but could never remember whether Krusty the Clown is a rook or a bishop or what\ [23:47] delt0r (~delt0r@62-47-150-46.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:47] hey norming|knower's [23:47] err Urchlay [23:47] I guess Ned Flanders makes sense as the bishop [23:47] hehe [23:47] hey, prolific|hopper [23:48] chubs (~chubs@c-71-233-150-243.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:48] Urchlay, what pieces were Marge's sisters? queens or knights? [23:49] dunno. Marge was the queen [23:49] Action: fire|bird waves hello to MLanden [23:49] heya,fire|bird [23:49] the pawns were all Bart (or maybe white's pawns were Bart and black's were Lisa) [23:49] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Read error: Connection timed out [23:50] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [23:50] was effectively impossible to play a real game on the damn thing [23:51] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [23:52] Urchlay, could imagine [23:55] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Quit [23:55] rv2733 (~ron@c-98-254-46-12.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:57] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [23:58] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [23:59] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [00:00] --- Thu Feb 18 2010