[00:00] Tadgy (tadgy@unaffiliated/tadgy) left ##slackware ("Courtney"). [00:00] anything you like don't matter unless your on a network [00:01] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Quit: Changing server [00:01] domain name can be anything too, unless you are again on a network [00:01] home boxes can be anything you like for yourself [00:01] ok, I finished with the netconfig [00:01] now what? [00:01] btw, thanks for your time =) [00:01] then it goes next to DHCP [00:02] yep, already [00:02] and the cable is plugged in [00:02] reboot? [00:02] make sure it's higlighted then enter [00:02] one sec [00:02] well, wine 1.2 seems to work well enough for me to run my bizarre geophysics software - so I'm tres happy [00:03] oki [00:03] you don't have to reboot, just that I forgot for the moment how you restart it from hand hehe [00:03] my bad... [00:03] if no one tells you then reboot [00:04] troy, are you going to package it? [00:04] synyster (~synyster@76-231-31-109.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:05] ok, rebooting now... [00:06] shonudo: I don't have a place for them to live [00:06] shonudo: so, no, I don't think so [00:06] too bad [00:06] shonudo: I will let alienBOB know what I did to his script, so perhaps he'll package it [00:06] so, will the new wine 1.2 work on x86_64 and run all the normal 32-bit windows apps without needing the slackware multilib packages? [00:06] foobarz: it needs multilib [00:06] in slackware how do I install packages? I need to install gnome [00:07] Nick change: Guest39917 -> RaNdY [00:07] lobito, that's it's own world... have you looked at the gnome sites for slackware? [00:07] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:07] Nick change: RaNdY -> Guest54520 [00:08] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!0@* expired. [00:08] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:08] Action: troy hands lobito kde 4.5 packages :P [00:08] not yet, but like in ubuntu is synaptic, in slackware is... ? [00:08] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-193.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:08] replay (replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [00:08] lobito: manual installation much of the time :) [00:08] lobito, start here: http://www.droplinegnome.org/ [00:09] shonudo: they're a bit out of date, if not dead, last I checked. [00:09] rworkman, who has taken over? [00:09] I think GSB is the default (only) alternative right now [00:09] ^^ lobito, see GSB [00:09] xgates, thank you so much for your help, now I have internet =))) [00:09] fyi, gsb == gnome slackbuild [00:10] lobito: bagira doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about most of the time. Just FYI. [00:10] (thanks, rworkman) [00:10] Entulho (~foo@201.67.212.124) left irc: Quit: . [00:10] lobito: you should not idle in his channel, anyway [00:11] and GSB is working fine on a machine here - no sacrifices required at all. [00:11] Support is great with GSB. He just has the personality and charm of a runover rattlesnake. [00:12] lobito: cool np :) [00:12] dcauter: hi [00:12] alan`: hi [00:12] can someone tell me how to work git for this? ----> http://pastebin.com/mhwAjJDX [00:13] Xgates: that is how -- that's what the instructions are giving you. You'll have to clarify your question a bit more [00:14] well for starters for this ---> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/konrad/xen.git branch devel/kms.fixes-0.3 [00:14] I thought the link would be this that you use ---> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/konrad/xen.git [00:14] like this then git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/konrad/xen.git [00:14] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [00:15] Xgates: yes, line 3 is screwed, actually. [00:15] what's the branch devel/kms.fixes-0.3 sitting on the end? Telling me where to look when I've pulled it down? [00:16] farque (~farque@202.171.164.50) joined ##slackware. [00:16] Looks like you want: "git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/konrad/xen.git" [00:16] ok [00:16] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [00:16] then "git branch branch devel/kms.fixes-0.3" inside that repo [00:16] btw you know anything about this radeon kms patch? [00:16] I'm wondering maybe if I get a newer kernel I won't need it [00:17] I don't [00:17] Radeon KMS works great here on both an old and a new box [00:17] http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenPVOPSDRM#head-12e3182e332257013a6643465b739955f9b04463 [00:17] (in 2.6.34.1) [00:17] yeah seems to work really nice and snappy even changes the console text too, looks nicer [00:18] but in dmesg I get this: [00:18] [drm:r600_ring_test] *ERROR* radeon: ring test failed (scratch(0x8504)=0xCAFEDEAD) [00:18] Worth trying a newer kernel then [00:18] yeah that's what I was thinking [00:18] I grabbed 33.6 [00:19] which gnome is better? gsb or dropline [00:19] ? [00:19] =) [00:19] lobito: GSB is plenty stable. Refer back to what I said earlier about bagira [00:19] gsb [00:19] ah oki =) :P [00:19] lamefun (~dingbing@92.246.161.75) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:19] lobito: i.e. /ignore bagira [00:19] speaking of Gnome is still the mess it was a few years back when Pat dropped it? [00:19] He's got personal issues that he can't separate from technical issues. [00:19] is it still.... [00:20] It's probably still a mess, but the GSB folks cleaned it up quite well. [00:20] XD gigge [00:21] it is saving a .tgz package [00:21] how do I install this? [00:21] sorry for all the q, is just that Im completely new with slack [00:22] Hmm cause I was reading about Gnome today sounded like they had made headway into being better... [00:22] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:22] lobito: it depends on what exactly it is, but in general, installpkg foo.tgz as root [00:22] lobito: as long as it's a slackware package and not a normal archive [00:23] oh, thats why I couldnt use installpkg, forgot to become root [00:23] YEY! [00:24] thanks for your help !! x3 x3 ^^! [00:24] np :) glad it worked for you [00:24] good luck,lobito [00:24] Nick change: emma -> emm [00:25] lobito (~wolfie@201.102.103.147) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [00:25] Nick change: emm -> emma [00:31] troy (~troy@dsl-67-55-6-203.acanac.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:33] troy (~troy@67.55.6.203) joined ##slackware. [00:33] MLanden: have fun :) [00:34] rworkman: thanks [00:35] :) [00:36] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [00:37] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-182-167.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Later,folks [00:41] jgeboski (jgeboski@97.72.86.194) left ##slackware. [00:42] farque (~farque@202.171.164.50) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:43] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-157-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:44] jgeboski (~jgeboski@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [00:48] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-157-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:52] Action: troy tries making an updated amarok package... [00:53] amarok2? [00:53] shonudo: of course... 2.3.1 [00:53] clementine (sp?) [00:53] 2.3.0 is in -current, but it's built against an old qt/kde/etc... [00:54] i don't get amarok2 [00:54] shonudo: please elaborate :) [00:55] i don't see it as an improvement over 1.4.x [00:55] shonudo: I do, for my use case [00:56] what new feature does it offer that you use/want/need? [00:56] shonudo: there are some ui things that make me scratch my head here and there (the new volume widget, for example) [00:56] yeah, my problem may be more with the ui than anything else [00:57] shonudo: well, in general, in 1.4.x, my most used features were in the context view (lyrics, last.fm recommendations, etc...) [00:57] in 2.x (and again, everything is configurable in classic KDE tradition), it makes this information front and centre [00:57] fair enough [00:57] I don't load my whole collection into a single playlist - I use the dynamic playlists and so forth [00:58] Action: troy has 38000 tunes - not the type of thing to dump into a single playlist [00:58] i tend to put together my own playlists as well; agreed, the "whole collection as playlist" thing was sort of lame [00:59] shonudo: that was one of the biggest complaints against amarok 2; it ruined the 'whole collection as playlist' workflow [00:59] alienBOB: I'm releasing a git version of slackware-live scripts [01:00] shonudo: there's still a few ui things I'd change/update/revert/etc., but I'm pretty happy with it as it is right now (after I configure a few things, and tab together the context view and collection) [01:01] are you going to make a package? [01:02] shonudo: I don't know - I'd have to release like 12 packages for that to work... mostly because I'm using an unreleased Qt and such [01:02] and right now alienBOB's kde packages are using the Qt from -current [01:02] you should package some of your stuff (just me) [01:03] shonudo: I don't have any place to host them right now - maybe I'll ping some people when they wake up to get a cold corner on a server someplace [01:04] shonudo: part of the problem is that I only build x86_64 packages and they don't really get enough testing half the time [01:04] do you test them on more than the build box? [01:04] no [01:06] gezley (~gezley@86-42-210-43-dynamic.b-ras1.cld.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [01:07] shonudo: my system is drifting further and further from -current each day that it sits dormant for post 13.1 [01:08] Nick change: Guest54520 -> RaNdY [01:08] are you going to install 13.1 at some point? [01:08] shonudo: I have -compat32 all over the place - custom packages stockpiling in ~/packages, - a bunch of things I've got from SBo or alien... [01:09] Nick change: RaNdY -> Guest15171 [01:09] shonudo: I'm more current than 13.1, so no [01:09] yeah, from the description, it makes sense [01:09] am0rphis (~qwe@91.145.221.142) left irc: Quit: am0rphis [01:09] you've got a ton of stuff up and running that you'd probably lose [01:10] plus, since I need to randomly compile KDE stuff from kde trunk occasionally, I need to have more up-to-date stuff in that library stack anyway [01:11] so you're running the latest kde? [01:12] shonudo: from -alien's repo at the moment, yes... but I've got my own Qt packages sitting underneath it since I'm using the Qt 4.7 betas, whereas he uses Qt 4.6.3 or somesuch [01:12] hooray for binary compatibility :P [01:12] indeed [01:13] jgeboski (jgeboski@97.72.86.194) left ##slackware. [01:17] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:18] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:18] my github of slackware-live: http://github.com/godane/slackware-live [01:20] i can help you improve the scripts alienBOB [01:21] troy (~troy@67.55.6.203) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:22] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:27] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [01:30] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-193.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:30] jgeboski (~jgeboski@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [01:31] kumo (~kumo@cache.vsu.ru) joined ##slackware. [01:32] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-176.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. 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[02:05] Nick change: Sauron|Out -> BiCHiTo [02:05] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:09] Nick change: Guest15171 -> RaNdY [02:10] Nick change: RaNdY -> Guest18545 [02:13] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-182-167.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:14] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-188-093.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [02:18] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [02:22] netstat -a [02:22] lol [02:22] --->other terminal...;) [02:22] ^^ [02:22] Kaapa (~Something@a95-93-240-222.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [02:23] arenics: no worries...happens to us all...damn that tab [02:23] MLanden: hahaha [02:26] Kaapa (~Something@a95-93-240-222.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [02:27] Hey, at least you didn't blast your password for all to see. lol ;-) [02:28] MLanden: use /exec ;) [02:28] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: superman is a sissy, I have linux inside! [02:28] BP{k}: not a literal remark....only kidding [02:28] stormtracknole: it would be useless because I have no network service running [02:31] arenics: I've made the mistake of doing that, but on a chatroom that we use for work. I had to quickly change all my passwords. [02:32] It was quite embarassing. Apparently it also happens quite often because you will see some random passwords pop up from time to time. [02:33] ^^ [02:34] happy to see that the new engine in Wine 1.2 is finally working(32bit) [02:35] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-165.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:36] rainyrhy_ (~rainyrhy@u15389925.onlinehome-server.com) joined ##slackware. [02:36] MLanden: Did that make it to slackbuilds.org yet? [02:37] rainyrhy_ (~rainyrhy@u15389925.onlinehome-server.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:37] rainyrhy__ (~rainyrhy@u15389925.onlinehome-server.com) joined ##slackware. [02:37] used alienbob's...just commented it to 1.2 and # out the xpm entry [02:39] stormtracknole: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/wine/build/ [02:39] MLanden: Excellent! I gotta give it a try. [02:40] rainyrhy (~rainyrhy@bb219-74-10-86.singnet.com.sg) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:40] Nick change: rainyrhy__ -> rainyrhy [02:42] stormtracknole: np...if it snags at xpm(not found)..check the entry # Add a desktop menu for the winecfg program: and # that cp -a entry [02:45] MLanden: Thanks for that info. [02:47] stormtracknole: np [02:48] /win 6 [02:48] bah [02:49] Action: trhodes hands BP{k} the 6 he won [02:49] or is it a 9 ? [02:49] godane (~arch@c-75-68-6-221.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [02:49] Action: MLanden says /loss 2....Go Reds,Blacks or whoever.;) [02:51] trhodes: more like a fail 6 ;) [02:52] :P [02:56] gezley (~gezley@86-42-210-43-dynamic.b-ras1.cld.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Quit: gezley [02:58] morfeokmg (~morfeokmg@189.141.128.165) joined ##slackware. [02:59] hi slackers! [02:59] heya morfeokmg [03:00] hi MLanden [03:00] question: My Slack 13.1 increment much the temperature [03:01] morfeokmg: your system is running hot? [03:02] yes, its only with Slack [03:02] with W Vista, running normal [03:02] any problem with new kernel in slack 13.1, or issue! [03:02] morfeokmg: what is the make/model? [03:03] mmm, the laptop its model HP Pavilion DV4-1214la [03:04] and not make more than compile, use Xsessions, or navegate in the web. [03:05] and if exec sensors, the result its: [03:05] temp1: +85.8°C [03:07] morfeokmg: if you remove the batteries and run the laptop from the ac plug..same results? [03:07] yes [03:07] but only with slack! [03:07] 13.1 [03:08] with slack 12 not [03:08] working OK [03:09] how can one manage patches on slackware 13.1, i sync a mirror with rsync, and a patches dir fills up from time to time [03:09] i wasnt on the mailing list before, so maybe i need to wait for a mail, then install a patch? [03:10] Nick change: Guest18545 -> RaNdY [03:11] Nick change: RaNdY -> Guest60770 [03:11] jkimball4 (~jerrid@ip68-13-107-103.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:11] jkimball4 (jerrid@ip68-13-107-103.om.om.cox.net) left ##slackware. [03:11] jkimball4 (~jerrid@ip68-13-107-103.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:11] jkimball4 (jerrid@ip68-13-107-103.om.om.cox.net) left ##slackware. [03:11] now, shutdown immediate the laptop when i have run an shell with a sqlloader [03:13] and, the temperature rise immediately to 105 °C [03:15] morfeokmg: which kernel did you use in Slack12? [03:15] A friend said to me, who in linux not yet is stable ACPI [03:16] mmmmm, not remember [03:16] 2.6.24 or 29. not remember [03:17] what "echo $?" does ? [03:17] if possibly my kernel brougth qualified ACPI [03:17] arenics: echoes the exit status of the last executed foreground command [03:18] $?, its the pid of the last proc [03:18] trhodes: ok ty [03:18] morfeokmg: no [03:18] arenics: man bash | less -p '\?' # to read more about it [03:19] nice, ry [03:19] ty* [03:19] jgeboski (jgeboski@97.72.86.194) left ##slackware. [03:19] $! is the pid of the last-excuted fg process [03:19] AlexElliott (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [03:20] aaaa [03:20] :) [03:21] aaaa, really, ejejjeje $! [03:21] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-165.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:22] and $$ [03:24] money :D [03:24] jajajjajaja, XD [03:25] i wish that was money, 'cause it's always in the thousands :D [03:26] room...would compiling 2.6.34.1 be benificial for acpid and cpufreqd..have seen patches on phoronix that might help [03:26] its the ultimate process of Bill Gate$$, after of blue Screen of her money. [03:27] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: Quit: ZzzZZzzzZZZzz [03:28] and, then; ACPI its unstable, or stable! [03:29] jgeboski (~jgeboski@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [03:29] my slack die when increment use (in my lap) [03:30] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:32] rainyrhy_ (~rainyrhy@bb219-74-10-86.singnet.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [03:33] morfeokmg: is acpi-cpufreq or cpufreq-ondemand loaded? [03:34] archceza1 (1000@dhq72.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [03:34] a don't! [03:34] i don't! 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[04:36] hey guys [04:36] tuvok302Lappy (~Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-176.dial.telus.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:37] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-182-167.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:37] eariler I was playing with netconfig showing some here how to set it up and I was typing in it and thought I canceled it but it didn't and it changed my host and then made dhcpd poll for eth0 on startup [04:37] I use wicd so I how to get dhcpd not to poll on startup trying to connect eth0? [04:38] I forgot how I did this, if it was simply stopping dhcpd, don't remember... [04:39] x0e_ (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f738:ae3e:4f20) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:39] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [04:39] rainyrhy (~rainyrhy@bb116-14-155-26.singnet.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [04:39] hi [04:40] hey kumo [04:40] in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf try to type USE_DHCP[0]="no" for eth0 [04:40] ahh ok thanks, couldn't remember where it was hehe [04:41] kumo, that name sounds Hawaiian, I know cause I live in Hawaii :) [04:41] it's about "kumo"? [04:42] what? [04:42] Xgates: which island? [04:42] Maui [04:43] Since 1991 [04:43] >> that name sounds Hawaiian What name do speeak about? [04:43] and I can't stand it LOL.... [04:43] kumo: I mean your name kumo sounds Hawaiian :) [04:43] Xgates: miss the mainland? [04:44] nah I want to move to Europe [04:44] not into the USA at all, not my thing [04:44] Xgates: gotcha [04:46] all though it means Cloud in Japanese [04:46] yeah I'm a Yank but never really been into the American way of life.... [04:47] got an Asian wife and left the mainland in 86 and only seen it a few times since then [04:47] I'd be lost there LOL [04:47] to big and scary for me LOL [04:48] Action: Xgates like smaller places [04:48] before I came to Maui I was living in Saipan a 16 mile long island for 5 years [04:49] Xgates: lol...was 'bout to ask 'bout Guam [04:49] grazymax (~grazymax@host68-133-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:49] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saipan [04:49] yeah I lived on Guam for about a year too [04:50] my best friends are from Saipan - Chamorros locals of those islands [04:50] they moved to Maui now and live near me [04:51] Xgates, clear. No, it's not Hawaiian, it's Japanese word. Means "cloud" in English ^_^ [04:51] yeah I said that :) [04:51] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-20-195.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [04:51] Konichiwa [04:51] hehe [04:51] yeah..Saipan in the Marianas... [04:51] yeah right on top of the Marianas Trench [04:51] hehe konnichiwa [04:52] you Japanese? [04:52] Buntfu (M@c-174-55-68-85.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Buntfu.com has left the channel."). [04:52] No I am Russian, just learning Japanese. Like this lenguage [04:53] rainyrhy (~rainyrhy@bb116-14-155-26.singnet.com.sg) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:53] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Saipan [04:53] My grandfather was born in Russia [04:54] well at the time it was Russia, Estonia but now of course it's not Russian but on his birth certificate it says place of birth Russia [04:54] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [04:55] MLanden: hey you know if KMS in Slack not so stable with Radeon? [04:55] man what a pain in the ass of I'd had with it [04:55] at first I got it going good, then decided to try a new kernel version and then that thing keep rebooting on me [04:56] he, It's very interesting =) Do you know Russian? [04:56] Xgates: dunno..wish I could help...but I don't have a radeon [04:56] so then I uninstalled the ati, radeon, mesa, firmware and xorg server and reinstalled them to get it all fixed back [04:57] kumo: no I don't my grandfather never taught me any he was actually a Jew from Russia [04:57] kumo: which area of Russia are you at? [04:58] small northern part of Syberia [04:58] LOL j.kiddin [05:00] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [05:00] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:00] life in Russia still seems pretty hard from what I see [05:00] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [05:00] rainyrhy (~rainyrhy@bb116-14-163-25.singnet.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [05:00] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [05:00] brb [05:00] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout ( 0 Seconds ) [05:02] haha, Central Russia, city name is Voronezh [05:03] kumo: cool..not far from Ukraine [05:04] yes =) [05:04] eastern US here [05:04] rainyrhy (~rainyrhy@bb116-14-163-25.singnet.com.sg) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [05:05] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:06] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) joined ##slackware. [05:11] rainyrhy (~rainyrhy@bb116-14-16-61.singnet.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [05:13] Nick change: Guest17170 -> RaNdY [05:13] Nick change: RaNdY -> Guest87666 [05:15] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.254) joined ##slackware. [05:15] rainyrhy (~rainyrhy@bb116-14-16-61.singnet.com.sg) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:22] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [05:22] OK so anyone know if 2.6.34.1 is a good kernel or 2.6.35-rc5 is stable to use and better? [05:23] I need a better kernel then 33.4 for radeon support for KMS and the firmware [05:23] Xgates, use for what? Industrial server? [05:23] look up [05:23] just replied... [05:24] Xgates: pretty stable so far(pentium4 w/hyperthread) [05:24] so it's for your desktop pc? [05:24] yeah laptop box [05:24] go with 2.6.34.1 [05:24] MLanden: which 35? [05:24] i don't like the *-rc* [05:24] Xgates: no...2.6.34.1 [05:24] 2.6.34.1 is latest stable as I know [05:25] kumo, yep [05:25] ok [05:25] the 2.6.35 is in "rc" state [05:25] yeah KMS for Radeon on my HD3200 isn't so hot in 33.4 [05:25] or the Radeon R600_rlc.bin isn't that hot [05:27] from what I've seen these are those latest blobs: [05:27] http://people.freedesktop.org/~agd5f/radeon_ucode/ [05:27] maybe they're the problem and not the kernel [05:28] overall is KMS better to use in Slack? [05:29] Xgates: it's an improvement with vbox [05:30] 3.2.6 that is [05:30] well I'm not running that just straight on the lappy [05:31] ahhh..ic [05:31] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:32] well let's see if this stinkin 34.1 is any better [05:32] man I can't wait to NOT being using ATI anymore in Slack [05:32] LOL [05:32] Action: Xgates kicks ATI [05:33] ahh one other thing is 34-1 better then 33.6? [05:34] dunno...YMMV [05:34] Xgates: i'm using 2.6.34.1 [05:34] ok [05:34] ok I'll just give a wirl [05:34] morning phrag [05:34] Action: Xgates goes to hacking on it [05:34] MLanden: morning =) [05:35] Action: phrag got an apartment today >< [05:36] hey something else, anyone know if the radeon blob R600_rlc.bin and the X drivers work better with smp compiled in? [05:36] The stinkin ATI drivers you have to have smp compiled to install them [05:38] phrag: happy to hear...talkin' as in a flat,right? [05:39] bye bye ^_^ [05:39] kumo (~kumo@cache.vsu.ru) left irc: Quit: :C40-B> @57:> 8A?0@8;AO (went away). [05:39] yeh =) [05:39] HA this is a FUNNY one ---> Laptop Hybrid Grapics - GPU switching support (VGA_SWITCHEROO) [05:39] lol [05:39] Switcheroo LOL sounds like some Aussie thing [05:39] YEAH HA [05:39] i noticed that before heh [05:40] where do they come up with these names [05:40] always like those hidden easter eggs when compiling the kernel..;) [05:40] I remember before in early 2.6x or it was 2.4x they had a mod called gluesocks [05:40] Crani (~Duuh@h221n6-n-d4.ias.bredband.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:40] the old switheroo is a common phrase [05:41] ahhhh [05:41] i dont know it's origins though [05:41] do you remember gluesocks? [05:41] LOL [05:41] seriously though, workmen drilling at 8am on a saturday morning shaking the blocks of about 500 people [05:41] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [05:42] LMAO [05:42] not rworkman, just workmen =P [05:42] sounds like you found a nice apartment area hehe [05:43] oh no, this is my (current) old place [05:43] phrag: hmmm...reckon' time and half against pension...;) [05:43] hmm didn't think they'd be out on a weekend working [05:43] i dont move till next month =P [05:43] i know, rather inconsiderate tbh =P [05:43] phrag: you know if it's better for KMS for radeon and the R600_rlc.bin blob to have smp complied in? [05:44] they prob get paid twice as much on a weekend, a big fiddle [05:44] Xgates: i dont no, sorry.. nvidia all the way all my life [05:44] k [05:44] phrag: true [05:44] well got find someone's PitBull and let it out on them [05:44] LOL [05:44] got/go... [05:44] lol...OFF MY LAWN!! [05:45] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. [05:47] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host213-122-218-128.range213-122.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [05:48] hey under ACPI under the kernel I have Processor but wondering if I should also have as a mod < > Processor Aggregator ?? [05:48] or you only use one of them? [05:49] "Xgates : phrag: you know if it's better for KMS for radeon and the R600_rlc.bin blob to have smp complied in?" <- smp compiled in? what do you mean? [05:49] Xgates: press '?' on the item in make menuconfig [05:50] adrien: well if you use the ATI drivers you have to have a smp kernel or they won't install so I wasn't sure if there was anything to KMS for radeon or the R600_rlc.bin blob that wanted smp too [05:51] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.27.108) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:51] Xgates: unless you have a CPU from before 1995, you should always have smp [05:52] (this doesn't apply to x86_64 since it's implied: you always get the "smp" part) [05:53] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.24.124) joined ##slackware. [05:54] andrew_46 (andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) left ##slackware. [05:56] stunix (1000@85.19.141.28) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:56] smp is for dual cores I only have a single core [05:57] if your cpu is a pentium pro or more recent (around 95), enable smp [05:57] ok thanks [05:57] now under ACPI I have Processor but wondering if I should also have as a mod < > Processor Aggregator ?? [05:58] press "?", it'll give you a description [05:58] stunix (1000@85.19.141.28) joined ##slackware. [05:59] well this is processor ---> http://pastebin.com/nxUGBiWr [06:00] Processor Aggregator ---> http://pastebin.com/MLhVyKXp [06:00] processor I have, just not sure about this ACPI 4.0... [06:00] like it's some newer revision or something like that... [06:00] guess you don't need it [06:01] ok [06:01] it has been a while since the last time I compiled a kernel [06:01] this option was introduced very recently, acpi 4 is itself pretty recent afaik [06:03] so no ATI users in the house using KMS in the kernel? [06:04] this is all I know to do for it: [06:04] Generic Driver Options: [06:04] (R600_rlc.bin) External firmware blobs to build into the kernel binary [06:04] /lib/firmware/radeon) Firmware blobs root directory [06:05] Then in /etc/modprobe.d/ ---> radeon.conf --- > options radeon modeset=1 [06:07] stunix (1000@85.19.141.28) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:08] I do [06:08] what's the problem? [06:08] errr, in the kernel? no, make it a module [06:08] or make an initrd with the firmware file in it [06:09] if in kernel, / isn't mounted when the module gets loaded and it makes it impossible to find the firware [06:09] firmware* [06:10] AlexElliott_ (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:11] I have to build the firmware R600_rlc.bin into the kernel [06:12] why not set it as a module? [06:12] graphic and sound aren't very nice to have built-in [06:12] AlexElliott (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:13] you can't set thjs as a module it has to be built in R600_rlc.bin is an external firmware that you download here [06:13] http://people.freedesktop.org/~agd5f/radeon_ucode/ [06:13] this isn't in the kernel it goes in /lib/firmware/radeon [06:13] stunix (1000@85.19.141.28) joined ##slackware. [06:13] no: compile radeon as a module and put the firmware files in your /lib/firmware [06:13] Nick change: Guest87666 -> RaNdY [06:14] adrien: yeah I compile Radeon as a module of course :) [06:14] Nick change: RaNdY -> Guest46631 [06:14] but this is compiled in ---> [*] Enable modesetting on radeon by default - NEW DRIVER [06:14] now doesn't the enable modsetting the thing that turns on the KMS support? [06:14] it does [06:15] CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS [06:15] k [06:15] Then in /etc/modprobe.d/ ---> radeon.conf --- > options radeon modeset=1 ??? [06:15] no [06:15] ahhh I thought it needed that options radeon modeset=1 [06:15] hmm ok [06:15] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:16] ok so then this is all I'll do? [06:16] Generic Driver Options: [06:16] (R600_rlc.bin) External firmware blobs to build into the kernel binary [06:16] (/lib/firmware/radeon) Firmware blobs root directory [06:17] ATI Radeon [06:17] [*] Enable modesetting on radeon by default - NEW DRIVER [06:17] and of course put R600_rlc.bin in /lib/firmware/radeon [06:17] that's it? [06:17] no need to build anything in the kernel [06:18] I'm running a HD3200 it complains in Xorg log for R600_rlc.bin [06:18] you have it in /lib/firmware/ ? [06:18] it trys to load that for my chip, so my understanding is I need to compile it in [06:18] no R600_rlc.bin doesn't come in the firmware in slack [06:19] no, only available [06:19] you have to download it [06:19] yes [06:19] http://people.freedesktop.org/~agd5f/radeon_ucode/ [06:19] pastebin your dmesg [06:19] well it's not in dmesg now because I'm using a different kernek for it [06:19] kernel... [06:19] it just basically said it failed to load it [06:20] let me see if I can google the msg [06:20] did you download the firmware files and put it in your /lib/firmware? [06:20] here it is :) [06:20] R600_cp: Failed to load firmware "radeon/R600_rlc.bin" [06:21] stunix (1000@85.19.141.28) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:21] all the three files? [06:21] Oxpemog (~IceChat7@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [06:21] OH so you saying just try to put it in /lib/firmware/radeon and don't compile it in and see if it works like that? [06:21] Xgates: did you do what adrien asked and check /lib/firmware/radeon directory? [06:22] yes I said it's not in there it's not a Free blob is my understanding that can't be distributed in the distros so you have to download them [06:22] like it's still ATI properitary or something like that [06:23] I have: ./radeon/RS600_cp.bin ./radeon/R600_pfp.bin ./radeon/R600_me.bin ./radeon/R600_rlc.bin [06:24] or maybe it can be put in as like non-free [06:24] you're using fglrx or radeon? proprio or foss? [06:24] X driver [06:24] as for the license of these drivers, it's not they can't be distributed, it's they're not distributed yet [06:25] do you have all these .bin files too? [06:26] I have all of them except R600_rlc.bin [06:26] j0z_ (unix@201.22.32.80.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:26] j0z_ (unix@201.22.32.80.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [06:26] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [06:26] I only have kernel-firmware-2.6.33.4-noarch-1.txz installed for the firmware in my box [06:27] well, download the files from the uri you mentionned? [06:27] and that doesn't come with it [06:27] yeah I did :) [06:27] and reboot? [06:27] so are you saying just put it in there is all and don't do this? ---> (R600_rlc.bin) External firmware blobs to build into the kernel binary [06:28] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:28] yes [06:28] AlexElliott__ (~alex@2002:3e1f:a475:1234:21e:68ff:fe9b:9499) joined ##slackware. [06:28] AlexElliott_ (~alex@cpc2-aztw11-0-0-cust141.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:28] yes build or yes just put it in /lib/firmware is all? [06:29] hehe [06:29] put in /lib/firmware/ and don't build into [06:29] ok [06:30] ok then I'll just compile ---> [*] Enable modesetting on radeon by default - NEW DRIVER [06:30] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [06:30] yes [06:31] bishopo (~bishop@145-116-228-165.uilenstede.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:31] hi [06:31] mpa_ (~mpa@82.132.139.173) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:31] bishopo (bishop@145-116-228-165.uilenstede.casema.nl) left ##slackware. [06:32] adrien: do you know anything about the HD3200, should I also put in R700_rlc.bin? [06:32] don't think so but just try and see if it works withou [06:32] t [06:32] ok thanks [06:33] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.24.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:33] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:38] ok make time :) [06:38] Xgates: good luck [06:39] hehe with Radeon yeah no kiddin [06:42] SOUL_OF_R00T (~leo@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [06:43] j0z_ (unix@201.22.31.69.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:43] j0z_ (unix@201.22.31.69.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [06:43] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [06:44] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.24.130) joined ##slackware. [06:45] AlexElliott__ (~alex@2002:3e1f:a475:1234:21e:68ff:fe9b:9499) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:45] AlexElliott__ (~alex@2002:3e1f:a475:1234:21e:68ff:fe9b:9499) joined ##slackware. [06:47] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[07:19] well the newer the kernel the worse the radeon errors seem to get and other issues [07:19] errrrrr [07:19] http://pastebin.com/0ZzciTL5 [07:19] 34-1 not working good at all [07:19] GAWD Radeon SUCKs in Slack [07:20] Elektro (~elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [07:21] Mowah: cacafire [07:22] Mowah: just kidding, growisofs is pretty decent for a command-line utility [07:22] Destructo (~MM@64.134.103.107) joined ##slackware. [07:22] cdrecord is also a good option [07:22] wheres the beef!! ? [07:23] anyone remember that ..? [07:23] Destructo (~MM@64.134.103.107) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [07:23] thx, I'll check them out [07:23] hmm, must have said that in several channels [07:24] image burning program == cacafire - meh, that was pretty lame [07:25] must have....ghost of Clara Peller must've got him...had to wiki that brain jogger.;) [07:25] alphageek (rooot@69-165-139-158.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [07:25] haha [07:25] Xgates: don't use both vesa and radeon [07:25] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-140.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [07:25] do you use 'vga=normal' in your lilo.conf or something else? [07:25] betageek (rooot@69-165-139-158.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [07:26] trhodes: true,not too lame though...know there's an image burner in libvisual as well [07:26] yeah I was wondering about vesafb and radeonfb how to pick one over the other, forgot to ask [07:27] no I have vga = 791 [07:27] use vga=normal, run lilo, reboot [07:27] ok thanks [07:27] brb [07:27] pick none, they conflict with kms [07:28] Gerrh (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [07:29] huh pick none what, where? [07:31] well how do you pick none? [07:31] MLanden: cool, i didn't know what libvisual did until now :D [07:32] or better yet which do I want vesa or radeon to load? [07:33] adrien: so just vga=normal for now? [07:33] trhodes: there's a standalone available http://people.iperform.nl/~ds/libvisual-standalone.tar.gz [07:33] Xgates: not for now: as long as you use kms, use vga=normal [07:33] MLanden: neat, thanks [07:34] trhodes: np [07:34] adrien: ok, I just didn't know what you meant by pick none [07:35] you can remove the line altogether iirc [07:35] k [07:35] brb [07:35] thanks [07:35] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout ( 0 Seconds ) [07:39] t0f (~10000@69.72.53.160) joined ##slackware. [07:42] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [07:42] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:42] nope vga=normal not working, boots in 640x480 for a few secs then the screen goes blank [07:42] no good ... :( [07:49] j0z (unix@201.47.13.241.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:49] j0z (unix@201.47.13.241.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [07:49] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [07:53] Hmm Wiki says this: [07:53] First of all check that you don't load radeonfb, uvesafb or vesafb module. This includes no vga parameters for kernel when using KMS. Console is provided by fbcon and radeondrmfb frame buffer console. So it is best to make sure that fbcon module is loaded. [07:54] so it looks like I should just comment #vga=normal then [08:00] "vga=normal" is equivalent to nothing [08:00] kornerr (~kornerr@95.181.19.54) joined ##slackware. [08:01] t0f (~10000@69.72.53.160) left irc: Quit: t0f [08:02] ok well not working, do I need to blacklist anything or should I add in to load the mod? [08:03] with that Wiki saying Console is provided by fbcon and radeondrmfb frame buffer console. So it is best to make sure that fbcon module is loaded. [08:03] is fbcon what's being used for the fb mod? [08:06] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-182-167.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:06] I have radeom, ttm, drm_kms_helper and cfb[copyarea,imgblt,fillrect} [08:06] and which wiki? [08:06] the wiki is saying: [08:06] First, make sure the radeon kernel-module is loaded with KMS enabled (modeset=1) before X is started. [08:06] http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonBuildHowTo [08:07] you've rebooted since you've set vga=normal or nothing? [08:08] yeah and it boots in 640x480 for a few secs then the screen goes blank [08:08] and then? [08:08] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-182-167.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:08] nothing it's dead and I had to shut it down [08:09] ssh? [08:09] intel-gfx (~matters12@78-1-160-201.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [08:09] you're booting to runlevel 3 or 4? [08:09] whatever slack boots to by default I haven't changed them [08:09] 3 then, ok [08:10] try to ssh to the machine and get the dmesg [08:10] don't have any other box to do it with [08:11] you sure I don't need (modeset=1) ? [08:11] next time, wait one minute or two, type in your credentials even if you don't see anything on screen (watch out for typos) and then type: 'dmesg > dmesg_blank_screen' [08:11] you don't [08:12] and hit Ctrl+Alt+Del to reboot (or press power button but only for one second) [08:12] did all the above [08:12] dead dead and dead [08:12] LOL [08:13] don't need to blacklist anything or add modules anywhere to get loaded? [08:13] also better to use initid? [08:14] Action: kornerr admires sbopkg [08:14] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [08:15] Xgates: are you sure Ctrl+Alt+Suppr doesn't reboot your computer? (you have to be patient to be sure) [08:16] not then it didn't do anything and the power button neither I had to shut it off [08:16] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [08:16] so nothing needs to be blacklisted or mods added to load? [08:17] which kernel is it btw? [08:17] 34-1 [08:17] gull (testname@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) joined ##slackware. [08:17] radeon what? [08:17] edthix (~ed@175.137.185.232) joined ##slackware. [08:17] my chip is hd3200 if that's what ya asking [08:18] gull (testname@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) left ##slackware. [08:18] gull (testname@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) joined ##slackware. [08:19] slava_dp (~slava@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) joined ##slackware. [08:19] Ctrl+Alt+Suppr? you mean Ctrl+Alt+Del? [08:19] slava_dp (~slava@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) left irc: Changing host [08:19] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [08:20] yeah, Del [08:20] k [08:20] Xgates: had to wiki that one as well...http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:French_Keyboard.svg [08:20] as you saw, KMS on radeon is still young and may have problems, maybe you'll have to do without for now [08:20] MLanden: ;-) [08:21] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [08:21] adrien: ahh ok [08:21] adrien: abbreviation for supprimer,right? [08:21] Elektro (~elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:21] yeah making me crazy trying to get it going [08:22] i dont know what you guys were talking about but for reboot try to use alt-printscreenbutton-reisuo [08:22] MLanden: exactly [08:22] Xgates: I had troubles with my 4200 at some point, it was around 2.6.33/2.6.34, not sure when it was fixed [08:23] dont know what you guys were talking about but for reboot try to use alt-printscreenbutton-reisuo dont know what you guys were talking about but for reboot try to use alt-printscreenbutton-reisub [08:23] he entered into an infinite recursion /o\  [08:25] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [08:27] ok thanks [08:27] let me try something brb [08:27] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout ( 0 Seconds ) [08:28] anyone got emerald working on 13.1? mine doesn't show up [08:28] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:31] kornerr: What happens when you try and access emerald-theme-manager in terminal ? [08:32] nothing. emerald --replace just hangs [08:32] with fusion-icon just no borders [08:32] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [08:32] may be I should downgrade the default compiz? [08:32] gull (testname@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:33] adrien: I few things I forgot to ask, should I have AGP compiled in and also ---> [*] Include in-kernel firmware blobs in kernel binary [08:33] for firmwares, I've already told you no [08:33] ok, agp? [08:33] for agp, that doesn't seem to unlikely [08:33] too* [08:33] that you need it [08:33] kornerr: from CompizConfig Setting Manager(ccsm)..can you select window decoration? [08:34] hmm I read that you get glx and dri support from it [08:35] MLanden: hm [08:35] I've used my old 13.0 .config/compiz and it worked [08:35] heh [08:36] what item did you refer to? [08:36] there are 100 different settings and I can't see Window decoration [08:36] so if I don't want vesa then do I remove it? ----> [*] VESA VGA graphics support [08:37] kornerr: window decoration..just before wobbly windows in Effects [08:37] I have radeon too ---- ATI Radeon display support [08:39] MLanden: thanks. that was exactly this option missing. [08:39] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.24.130) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:39] kornerr: np [08:40] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.24.130) joined ##slackware. [08:41] hmm this is interesting didn't know this: [08:41] Video card drivers which support KMS do not need specific framebuffer drivers. In fact, building a kernel with them may cause all-black console screen or other graphical artifacts, so they should be disabled. [08:41] You should make sure you disable framebuffer drivers like intelfb, vesafb or uvesafb. [08:42] kornerr: which version Compiz are you using? 9.0 from what I saw seemed incomplete...using 8.6 [08:42] so it sounds like NO fbdrivers compiled in the kernel [08:42] MLanden: yes, 8.6, from sbo [08:42] I have another issue now with Pidgin. the "new message" icon doesn't blink even though is set to [08:43] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.24.130) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:44] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [08:45] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:45] kornerr: haven't used pidgin for some time...if you start pidgin from the terminal and try to "message" yourself..any errors? [08:46] sec [08:46] kornerr (~kornerr@95.181.19.54) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [08:46] rheault (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [08:46] kornerr (~kornerr@95.181.19.54) joined ##slackware. [08:46] nope [08:48] LnxSlck (~LnxSlck@bl15-9-153.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:49] kornerr: check the changelog http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ChangeLog might've been a glitch during compiling [08:50] thanks [08:50] I guess pat doesn't use pidgin :P [08:51] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:51] What's wrong with pidgin? I use it, no issues [08:51] auska (~auska@83.58.141.33) joined ##slackware. [08:51] hi [08:51] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:52] i want to connect my laptop to a wap network on the console [08:52] i have edited the wpa_supplicant.conf what is the next step? [08:52] You mean, you want to use your phone as the internet gateway auska?/// [08:52] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:53] Ah you mean WPA network auska? [08:53] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [08:53] i mean WPA [08:53] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:53] Next step is to edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf auska [08:54] alienBOB: on the blinking icon...kornerr was experiencing trouble with the systay icon [08:54] And configure your wireless interface [08:54] ok ;) thanks [08:54] systray* [08:54] MLanden: I was disconnected for a while, so I have no log of systray icon issues [08:54] on the wpa_supplicant.conf the psk could be psk="mypass", isn't it? [08:55] auska: "man rc.inet1.conf" may help you [08:55] ;) thanks [08:55] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.24.130) joined ##slackware. [08:56] auska: yes surrounded by "" it will be the passphrase you use. Without the "" then it must be the 64-character HEX key [08:56] aha... so then i'm ok :D [08:57] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-174-41.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:57] alienBOB: ok...http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ChangeLog might be just a glitch between 2.7.0 and 2.7.1 [08:58] Action: kornerr building 2.7.1 [08:58] hey any firefox 4 beta packages for slackware ? [08:58] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:58] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:58] again..haven't used pidgin for some time [08:59] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [08:59] kornerr: good luck [08:59] hey alienBOB shouldn't vlc-1.1.0 by default play mkv? [08:59] I know in Windows you can just click them but in Slack it's asking me [08:59] hmm [09:00] Xgates: it does play .mkv [09:00] it should be associated already [09:00] intel-gfx (~matters12@78-1-160-201.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:01] in Linux will VLC shows you the associated files? [09:02] I'm just thinking of it like WIndows hehe, when you install you pick the associations then click and play where in Slack it's not like that [09:03] ok. I built pidgin-2.7.1. can I run upgradepkg so that it would replace the old 2.7.0? [09:03] vlc in windows comes with all the codecs and stuff [09:03] sahko: vlc in Slackware too [09:04] alienBOB has it compiled with pretty much everything too [09:04] I'm just talking about file association [09:04] Xgates: in KDE I can right-click and choose "other" then tell KDE to use VLC for mkv files. KDE will remember that [09:04] I don't know if that's a filemanager thing, Linux or VLC in Linux [09:04] miltux (~miltux@62.1.232.229.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:04] kornerr: have you made a package with it? [09:04] Xgates, "vlc file.mkv" [09:05] yep. looks like it did. restarting [09:05] kornerr (~kornerr@95.181.19.54) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:05] I'm saying it would be nice if some how in what ever file manger someone used when they simply click a file it's automatically associated the same way like how Windows happens with the install and picking the associations but this process is just built in to VLC to be the default [09:06] if you get what I mean here ;p [09:06] No [09:06] kornerr (~kornerr@95.181.19.54) joined ##slackware. [09:06] yep. it worked fine. and now it blinks! [09:06] unix doesn't use extensions or 8.3 file names [09:06] auska (~auska@83.58.141.33) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:07] theres always file [09:07] kornerr: ok...good to hear [09:08] I know how to use VLC Ansa89 :p [09:08] I'm talking the differences of file association and how they work is all [09:09] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:09] I'm saying when you first use VLC and click a file in a file manger you THEN have to associate it to VLC to use it [09:09] got it now :) [09:10] I'm not talking about the fact that VLC has the support I'm talking about the PLAYING process at first, to first play a file for the first time [09:10] you can pass it as a parameter [09:10] Xgates: mime management [09:10] I mean it's cool in Unix makes it easy to change associations on the fly [09:11] there are no associations, filenames have no special meaning [09:11] but it would also be cool the first time you click the file the application knows what to do with it [09:12] it knows if its the proper filetype [09:12] how does it know that's the application you want? [09:12] Yes there are associations VLC is associated with playing video and audio correct? There fore we say it is ASSOCIATED with playing those files [09:12] that's what I'm talking about [09:12] hehe [09:12] but why should it decide that vlc is better than mplayer? :) [09:13] Razec (~razec@187.34.17.201) joined ##slackware. [09:13] thrice`: well where does that association take place in Windows? Windows handles it? [09:14] I mean sure at the Windows level you can change an association too that's not what I mean [09:14] in file manager you can associate what to play with what [09:14] I know this [09:16] I'm saying durning a WIndows install you pick the files you want to be associated to the player then you simply click them and it works [09:16] Dolphin doesn't have a facility to specify a program to open a file based on its name? [09:16] *the file's name [09:16] Xgates: so? [09:16] associate them in file manager [09:16] so I've always thought this association happens in two places through the program and through Windows [09:17] I think it happens in the Registry only [09:17] Xgates: writes the association to the registry [09:17] and there are xdg utils in unix, they can do association too [09:17] so [09:17] I'm just saying it might be nice if it could work the same way in Linux too [09:17] Xgates: it's explorer that does the program launching [09:17] association in unix takes place within each window manager, I think [09:17] ugh [09:17] double ugh [09:18] and it's Quicktime that associates itself with all the file extensions you don't want it associated with [09:18] Action: ut giggles [09:18] lol [09:18] Entulho (~foo@189.31.111.226) joined ##slackware. [09:19] yeah I guess for starting a program in Linux no way to make it see something, it has to be started then associated to it afterwards [09:19] Xgates: it's all dependent on what you're using [09:19] yeah the reg too in Windows... [09:19] Dolphin can do whatever it wants when you click something [09:19] ut: lol....and a day and half..hacking the registry to take those associations out [09:20] Xgates, if you want windows like association, just use windows [09:21] btw, Windows 7 is nice :P [09:21] lol [09:21] it did fetch some of my drivers... like ubuntu [09:21] so some day... [09:21] it will be as good :P [09:21] Ansa89: not my point, just trying to throw some thought to the wind IF this might bring more flexibility to LInux is all [09:22] ok off to reboot this beast again to test this dang KMS [09:22] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout ( 0 Seconds ) [09:22] Action: ut scratches his head [09:23] stop it,ut....it's contagious...j/k [09:24] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:24] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-174-41.bur.connect.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:24] nvision (~nvision@g225054025.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:25] mernilio (~magnus@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [09:25] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*.A258.priv.bahnhof.se' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [09:25] mernilio kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Ooh, look, it's moron mernil! Oh, you're still banned - I had removed it since you hadn't been around in a while. I thought maybe you'd stepped in front of a bus or something. [09:26] lol [09:27] lol [09:29] olo [09:29] hmmm..ah..ok http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=sv&u=http://m.linuxportalen.se/node/5323&ei=965BTNrhL4O78ga20PgM&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CEkQ7gEwCQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmernil%2Bslackware%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DyhS%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Ddf [09:29] DURgod (~DURgod@24-180-67-226.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Quit: DURgod [09:30] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [09:30] sorry 'bout that large entry [09:30] well I'm getting this radeon kms to work almost all the way [09:31] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.230.160) joined ##slackware. [09:31] adrien: with vga=normal I get the console to boot like 640x480 for a few secs then the fb kicks in and I get the smaller resolution but how can I get the FB to kick in from the beginning? [09:32] danklesman (dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [09:32] I want to see my nice Tux and small resolution from the start hehe ;p [09:32] careful, it's not actually 'fb' :) [09:32] but, to enable kms super early, you'd need to add radeon to the initrd or something [09:32] ahhh [09:33] is it safe to mess with this KMS radeon? [09:33] It will have to compiled in the kernel to get it from the start [09:34] I have [*] Enable modesetting on radeon by default - NEW DRIVER compiled in [09:34] Entulho (~foo@189.31.111.226) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:35] if that's what you mean [09:35] radeon kms should be safe. it'll be a requirement soon enough, just like intel [09:36] ok those words 'careful [09:36] you mentioned made me look [09:36] hehe [09:36] XGizzmo: compile what in? [09:37] Ubuntu if I'm not mistaken has been using for a while now [09:37] I can't find "save" button in emerald config dialog [09:37] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [09:38] SmartOne2 (~root@112.135.48.205) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:38] kornerr, I don't think you're on slackware :) [09:39] I'm on slackware [09:39] SmartOne (~SmartOne@112.135.48.205) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:39] using emerald? [09:39] XGizzmo: you there? [09:39] yes [09:39] kornerr: edit themes [09:40] it says ' can't write theme ' [09:40] thrice`: did you get what XGizzmo was talking about compiling it in? Compiling what in? [09:40] SmartOne2 (~root@112.135.47.77) joined ##slackware. [09:41] radeon + drm I'd guess [09:41] miltux (~miltux@62.1.232.229.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Quit: exit(0); [09:41] if you're rebuilding the kernel [09:41] kornerr: is there a theme loaded? [09:41] so compile my driver in to not a mod> [09:41] ? [09:41] ATI Radeon [09:41] if you want it to instantly load, yes [09:42] ok [09:42] yes [09:42] otherwise, it only changes the resolution after the radeon module is loaded [09:42] ok. I used my old .emerald config [09:43] kornerr, what does 'cat /etc/*sio*' say? [09:43] 13.1.0 [09:43] ok, and emerald is from Gnome slackbuild, or? [09:43] thrice`: do you know if AGP gives any benefits to glx or dri/drm with radeon even if you don't have agp hardware? [09:44] someone was saying it still does [09:44] not sure which benefits it would be, no :( could be, though [09:44] ok I'll leave it in [09:44] thanks [09:44] kornerr, ls -l on your .emerald [09:45] O_o [09:45] permissions are fine [09:45] who owns it ? [09:46] me [09:46] which group? [09:46] users [09:46] why do you continually avoid pasting actual results? :) [09:46] because I've "solved" the issue :) [09:50] hmm this set at 16 for the default? -----> (16) Maximum number of GPUs [09:50] running a hd3200 only one gpu [09:50] I know this has to be something software related afterall what chip has 16 [09:50] hehe [09:51] kumo (1100@133.206.32.95.dsl-dynamic.vsi.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:51] number of GPUs [09:51] maybe Nvidia in 2055 has 16 gpu cards [09:51] LOL [09:52] yeah we talking graphical processing unit [09:53] an hd3200 only has 1 [09:53] SmartOne (~SmartOne@112.135.47.77) joined ##slackware. [09:54] so what would you pick for something like this, I actually thought this had to do with something beyond the hardware level but something software wise for benefit [09:54] I can't put it in words.... [09:54] can't remember [09:55] kumo (1100@133.206.32.95.dsl-dynamic.vsi.ru) left irc: Client Quit [09:57] Razec (~razec@187.34.17.201) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:58] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-182-167.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:59] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [09:59] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-182-167.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:00] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:03] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:07] SOUL_OF_R00T (~leo@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:09] can I ask question about GSB here? [10:10] kornerr: what? [10:10] gnomeslackbuild [10:10] kornerr: #gsb [10:10] switch10_ (~dave@24.206.123.83) joined ##slackware. [10:10] oh [10:11] can I ask a question about sqrt(-1) ? [10:11] *brain implodes* [10:12] kornerr, you can, but they are probably a better audience [10:12] ok [10:14] offtopic hilarious http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On3etueeGIg [10:17] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:18] SOUL_OF_R00T (~leo_00@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [10:20] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:26] nachox (~Ignacio@9-99-235-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [10:26] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:28] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout ( 0 Seconds ) [10:32] hitest (~chatzilla@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. 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[10:51] hi, is theere a way to hide certain users from being seen by other users? e.g: i don't want user 'tim' to know that username 'sara' exists, especialy when they're browsing /home folder [10:51] Nick change: stu -> stu_ [10:52] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [10:53] stu_, I think you can do it by changing permissions one /home/user [10:54] troy (~troy@dsl-67-55-6-203.acanac.net) joined ##slackware. [10:54] :) chrooting ssh [10:58] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [10:58] ok compiling in drm and radeon didn't help it made the console hang for a bit [11:01] I'm going to try initrd but for radeon kms is there anything special I need to run for mkinitrd or is this fine? ------> mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.34.1-smp -m ext4 [11:02] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [11:02] xovan (~chatzilla@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:18] ATI mayhem, Part V [11:19] LOL [11:19] Xgates, zgrep -i radeon /proc/config.gz ? [11:19] what that for? [11:20] ok, nevermind [11:21] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [11:21] holger_ (chatzilla@94.125.216.34) left ##slackware. [11:22] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [11:23] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:24] auska (~auska@248.53.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [11:26] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*.A258.priv.bahnhof.se expired. [11:26] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*.A258.priv.bahnhof.se' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:26] motaro (~ricardori@190.166.112.215) joined ##slackware. [11:27] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [11:28] reboot time again :P [11:28] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout ( 0 Seconds ) [11:28] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [11:28] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware. [11:29] Gerrh (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [11:30] auska (~auska@248.53.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:32] Barnabyh (~Barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:33] xovan (~chatzilla@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.4/20100622203045] [11:39] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-106-45.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:40] I see xgates is still having fun and not learning as much as he should [11:41] alisonken1home: time will tell [11:41] rheault (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:43] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[11:44] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7BAB7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:47] alisonken1home: you know, years ago when I was still a young grasshopper, the way I learned about computers was by breaking things and then trying to figure out what the hell I'd done [11:48] troy: that's pretty much how I learned as well [11:48] alisonken1home: maybe Xgates is in that phase :) [11:48] Action: troy isn't sure he ever left that phase, considering he got involved in foss on the development side [11:49] troy: true - it might just be he's taking longer than I did at some of the stuff he's trying to do [11:50] alisonken1home: or you just don't remember what it's like to not know the commands you need :) [11:50] alisonken1home: one of my first exercises on linux was getting intel's binary blob for the i740 vid card up and running - it took me forever [11:50] troy: :) [11:50] no, I am quite sure he's taking longer ;) [11:51] alisonken1home: alright, if BP{k} says he's taking longer, it must be true :P [11:51] troy: wine built up nicely [11:51] troy: hehe [11:51] MLanden: yes - works nice here too :) [11:52] however my system suddenly became a little flakey... this is what I get for updating the KDE stuff /while/ running KDE software [11:55] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [11:55] troy: kde1 or kde2? [11:56] MLanden: when I was using the i740 drivers? kde1 [11:56] noobfarm (noobfarm@slackadelic.com) joined ##slackware. [11:56] troy: cool...messed with both on freebsd [11:56] Nick change: BiCHiTo -> Sauron|Out [11:57] mcury (~mcury@189.24.60.159) joined ##slackware. [11:58] MLanden: I had commit access to KDE before kde2 :P [11:58] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.254) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:58] nick4 (~fffeop@62.1.145.46.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:58] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-106-45.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [12:01] troy: then they thought you were too dangerous? :P [12:01] Action: troy is building Qt 4.7 beta2 packages... [12:01] adrien: no, I still have it :) [12:01] adrien: I even dumped code into kdelibs for 4.5 :) [12:01] I don't normally touch the libs :P [12:02] noobfarm (noobfarm@slackadelic.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:02] beta? YUCK! [12:02] hey all; hey troy: did your WINE build turn out to be everything you wanted? [12:03] lol [12:03] shonudo: pretty much - although I haven't thrown any really difficult apps at it yet [12:03] wow. wine is 1.2 now [12:03] when they releases Spotify for linux i kicked out Wine [12:03] Cann0n: I've been running on beta1 for a few weeks without any serious issues [12:03] <3 [12:04] troy, what's your shortlist of "difficult apps"? (i'd put wordperfect on mine, not that it's that popular anymore) [12:05] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:05] shonudo: recent photoshop, arcgis, etc... [12:06] CS... yeah that would be nice [12:06] troy: beta is still gross. [12:06] mcury (~mcury@189.24.60.159) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:06] m3tti (~user@p57B7BAB7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:06] Nick change: Wulf-is-not-here -> WireWulf [12:07] photoshop has been working with wine for at least 7 years [12:07] i think this is 64bit and exploiting multithreading, no? [12:07] i don't remeber the last time i used PS with wine, but it was well before that cedega spin-off [12:07] yeah, ps7 ran like a champ on wine [12:07] gm152 (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [12:11] FruitLoops, Macromedia Studio MX, Battlefield2, and Corel, 3DSMax, ULead, and LightWave work [12:11] amoungst like 4 or 5 older games [12:11] are the only things i've tried on wine. [12:11] the Corel stuff is glitchy... you had good luck with it? [12:12] Yeah, just had to set it to Windows ME and something else [12:12] it's been a while [12:12] there are always some glitches somewhere [12:13] like on FruitLoops, saving can sometimes be... a large waste of time [12:13] ola folks.. [12:13] the glitches are in the original api, trying to duplicate it logically can never be completely sucessful [12:13] true that [12:13] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [12:13] vmware does wonders [12:13] Thief I and II, just won't run [12:13] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] Gerrh (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:14] Cann0n, the only problem i have with vm is accessing directories back and forth [12:14] needs Direct 3d [12:14] yeah, that's a bitch [12:14] shame [12:14] easiest way for me is to just use a thumb drive [12:14] lol [12:15] or ssh [12:15] same here; or to network it [12:15] yeah [12:15] then again, i RARELY use anything windows related. [12:16] Thief games are the reason why I'll eventually need a Windows PC again, specially when 4 comes out :) [12:16] Diablo2 had issues with the cut scenes sometimes [12:17] setting up a win box just for gaming actually makes sense [12:17] I haven't played many games in a long time. i might start up Wesnoth or Nexuiz once and a while [12:17] Nexuiz is nice [12:17] yeah, i show everyone that game when i show them linux [12:18] "dang, thats a sweet game!" "yep, it's free too" [12:18] Cann0n: Did Diablo 2 run well apart from that? [12:18] very well [12:18] troy (~troy@dsl-67-55-6-203.acanac.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:18] actually... i never played it on windows [12:19] and i was heavy into that game back in 2000 to 2004 [12:19] I heard Baldurs gate is one of the best running on Wine, gold or platinum rating [12:19] Oh yeah, been a long time now since it came out [12:19] seems like yesterday [12:20] lol yeah [12:20] getting old [12:20] i still prefer SNES and Sega games [12:20] speaking off, i need an NES emu [12:20] s/offs/of/ [12:21] Cann0n: fceux [12:21] thanks [12:22] Gotta try BG soon, got the collectors edition here with all add-ons but never played it before- too much to do and play [12:23] found a package of it on http://slackfind.ne [12:23] t [12:23] waaay to lozy to compile it myself today [12:24] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host213-122-218-128.range213-122.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:24] s/lovzy/lazy/ [12:24] Nick change: Barnabyh -> Away [12:24] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:24] Away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. 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[13:08] phrag: btw, for the channel stats, you might want to merge 'adrien' and 'Camarade_Tux', and also the various alisonken* ;-) [13:08] adrien: thanks for info =) [13:08] MLanden: irssi typo =P [13:09] phrag: all good [13:11] i may add pics from the gallery to stats =P [13:12] groo (~groo@187.47.190.132) left irc: Quit: Saindo [13:12] at least my nicks have a consistent prefix :) [13:13] any others whilst i'm adding? [13:13] asin other users [13:13] I don't think my clones contribute enough [13:13] rarely on them and chatting here [13:16] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:17] slava_dp (~slava@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] AlexElliott__ (~alex@2002:3e1f:a475:1234:21e:68ff:fe9b:9499) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:21] AlexElliott__ (~alex@2002:3e1f:a475:1234:21e:68ff:fe9b:9499) joined ##slackware. [13:23] alienBOB: just set up a slackware server over ssh. Rocks! :) [13:24] once I '/etc/rc.d/rc.sshd stop' remotely ='( [13:24] hah [13:24] adrien: that only stops new connections - but if you close the session, yeah - it sucks :) [13:24] yeah, of course I closed the session right away >< [13:25] and I was almost happy to do that... for a second [13:25] that's why we have serial consoles connected to our servers - even if ssh dies, the console lives on [13:25] adrien: I turned on a firewall remotely.. but forgot to edit it so it blocked me out :( [13:25] treatment succesful, patient dead :) [13:25] nice one :-) [13:25] I've also remotely turned off my laptop, and did pm-hibernate once (that one failed) [13:26] another one I did was to remotely load a kernel module that wasn't stable ='( [13:26] adrien: how was your holiday,Wednesday? [13:26] Action: adrien has been on holidays for about a month :P [13:26] john_dee (~id@95-29-185-9.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:27] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:27] adrien: ok [13:27] why doesn't this work.. [13:27] rename 'y/May/05/g' slackware.log.31May2010 [13:27] adrien: he probably means how was `le quatorze Juliet' [13:27] or rename 's/May/05/g' slackware.log.31May2010 [13:28] or sed -i 's/May/05/g' slackware.log.31May2010 [13:28] BP{k}: oh, makes sense ;-) [13:28] am i missing something silly [13:28] BP{k}: right...the 14th.....Fête Nationale [13:29] try it out and see what it does [13:29] Yandertal (~Yandertal@unaffiliated/yandertal) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:29] nothing, that's my point =-P [13:29] thats a very elegant way to accomplish nothing [13:30] i usually look for an applet that takes regexps and rename thm [13:33] padhu (~Padhu@175.40.56.58) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:33] Cann0n_ (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [13:34] phrag: rename May 05 $file [13:34] it's not sed :P [13:35] padhu (~Padhu@175.40.56.58) joined ##slackware. [13:35] does yours work? [13:37] why error message appears "join #slcokware with invitation only" [13:37] because ##slackware is the public channel [13:37] note the ## [13:38] because it's "slackware" and not "slcokware" ? [13:38] #slackware I believe redirects to ##slackware [13:38] correct. [13:39] later dudes [13:39] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.10.243.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:39] i figured the typo would be in his post, why would we know about another channel thats spelled wrong [13:39] or maybe its not [13:39] Yandertal (~Yandertal@ip09.rdlbnc.com) joined ##slackware. [13:39] Cann0n_ (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:39] Skywise: don't know - can only go by what they poat :) [13:39] post [13:40] after all, its pretty hard to hit o instead of a [13:40] john_dee (~id@78-106-242-22.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:42] adrien: thanks [13:43] saivinoba (~saivinoba@82.178.69.67) joined ##slackware. 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[13:50] it's not [13:50] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-106-45.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:50] phrag (phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [13:50] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [13:50] X=slackware.log.19062010 ; echo year is ${X: -4} month is ${X: -6:2} day is ${X: -8:2} [13:51] lamah (~ghost@78.90.113.108) joined ##slackware. [13:51] you legend, thanks rob0 =) [13:51] does a Slackware haves a package manager? [13:51] dude, i dont even understand that [13:51] for downloading a packages [13:52] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:52] for X in slackware.log.* ; do mv $X slackware.log.${X: -4}${X: -6:2}${X: -8:2} ; done [13:53] interesting - lobby4linux.com page is no longer lobby4linux - you can tell because the "Related Searches" area in the middle also includes "Car Insurance", "Health Insurance", "Free Credit Report", and "Hotels" [13:53] lamah: see Slackbook, /topic, and no. This is not Debian. [13:54] rob0: if i need a packages what can i do [13:54] lamah: for 3rd party packages, try slackbuilds.org and sbopkg [13:54] rob0: nice =) [13:54] i do love new shell script =) [13:56] alisonken1home: what is a sbopkg ? [13:56] I would recommend if you want a system to act like Debian or Fedora, Debian or Fedora would be good choices. [13:56] lamah: it's a package manager similar to pkgtool in slackware that lets you browse, build, and install packages that are based on the slackbuild from slackbuilds.org [13:57] alisonken1home: aha [13:57] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:58] rob0: can you explain the character manipulation there pls? [13:59] ${variableName:offset[:length]} [13:59] phrag: standard bash shell variable substitution [13:59] like slices in python (I don't know enough of any other language to know the equiv.) [13:59] rob0: as i see, thankyou =) [14:00] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-106-45.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [14:00] basic substr[] manipulation [14:00] same in java [14:00] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [14:00] hitest (~chatzilla@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.5/20100624141736] [14:01] however, bash substring substitutions are more like python slices since you don't have to call a separate subrouting to get the same functionality [14:01] hm [14:02] rob0: i am not using slack for many years i think 10 and more i remember something 3.1 on floppy :)))))))) [14:02] alisonken1home: and why now slack doesn't haves package manager like debian that says rob0 [14:03] gm152 (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:03] lamah: because slackware is based on being _you_ the admin knowing what you want on your system, not _the package manager_ that may include 3rd party unvetted packages that pull in unneeded depdendencies to your system [14:04] yes [14:04] Slackware the Best OS [14:04] slackpkg will allow you to keep track of your slackware official packages updates, and sbopkg works with slackbuilds.org for 3rd party stuff that at least has some modicum of quality control on how the packages are built [14:05] not only that, they're console based, so you don't need a gui in order to work with them [14:06] for some of us that have remote servers, that's a definite plus [14:06] new stats.. http://phra.gs:8000/ [14:07] ShKoDrAnI (~ardit24@cpe-95-107-197-58.wifi.tring.al) joined ##slackware. [14:08] phrag: does that mean an aggregate of alisonken* posts? just curious since I've been working from home this week and haven't logged in from the office or the laptop since a week ago friday morn [14:09] alisonken1home: damn, you beat me! [14:10] with a whip! [14:10] adrien: wow - mancha doesn't have much over me! impressive [14:11] nick4_ (~fffeop@62.1.21.208.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:11] i dont trust phrags, his data is skewed. [14:12] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: viver [14:12] well, I notice his name isn't in the top set yet [14:12] AlexElliott (~alex@2002:3e1f:a475:1234:21e:68ff:fe9b:9499) joined ##slackware. [14:12] wait - he's 24 of 25 [14:12] nick4 (~fffeop@62.1.145.46.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:12] lamah (~ghost@78.90.113.108) left irc: Quit: lPt [14:12] alisonken1home: yes, i aliased to alisonken* [14:13] AlexElliott__ (~alex@2002:3e1f:a475:1234:21e:68ff:fe9b:9499) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:13] cool [14:13] now we know how much I really chat :) [14:13] how do i have 5038 lines typed ? [14:13] you just started your stats a few days ago [14:13] jeev: what dont you trust.. this is more accurate than wigglits as it's now parsing the log files in the correct order [14:14] oh, 196 days [14:14] and no one cares what you think jeev [14:14] phrag, because you and mancha have a thing going on [14:14] jeev: his stats have been going on for longer than 10 days [14:14] i don't see how i keep ranking so high, i'm hardly ever here [14:14] mancha pays off phrags, phrags adds him words. [14:14] or lines [14:14] it's from 196 days [14:14] oh ok [14:14] Skywise: it's by number of lines posted - not how many times you logged in [14:14] phrag, make me farting.fra.gs [14:14] parsed in the correct order now [14:15] i can give you +b jeev!*@* ? [14:15] that wouldn't be nice. [14:15] i will have to start saying more then 1 thing on a line to economize my line count. but that often means waiting to think of something else to say [14:15] phrag: he'll only accept it if it means +bondage :-) [14:15] nick4_ (~fffeop@62.1.21.208.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [14:16] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.179.125) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:16] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:16] damn man your stats should take count of how many times people are mean to me. [14:17] "eviljames seems to be unliked too. He/She got beaten 5 times." [14:17] it would be easier to count the times when they're not [14:17] har Skywise [14:17] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.163.186) joined ##slackware. [14:17] adrien, he beats himself [14:17] where has he been anyway ? [14:17] Poor himself, nobody likes him/her. [14:17] * mel0n slaps himself [14:18] ^^ [14:18] that's just 2010... i could go back few years, but it takes awhile to gen the report.. though 2010 was more relevent [14:18] I actualy hadn't understood that until you pasted it here :P [14:19] and i'm not sure how to fix the most referenced nicks thing.. i'll play with it later, at least accurate now =) [14:19] beer time! [14:19] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-216-141.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:19] phrag, do you drink american beer ? [14:19] \o/ [14:21] not really =P [14:21] He drinks tea and eats crumpets! [14:22] Action: alisonken1home gets more coffe [14:22] coffee [14:22] guess that would be better than Carling and Quavers...;) [14:23] fish and chips [14:24] chip and pin ? [14:24] Action: adrien sends snails to jeev [14:25] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [14:25] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:26] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-53-43.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:28] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:29] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [14:30] nvision (~nvision@g224251068.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:30] I'm running Slackware 13.1 x86_64 as a KVM guest, and I'd like to get rid of all the unecessary modules that are normally loaded, but when I blacklist agpgart, it still shows up. I can remove it using modprobe -r agpgart without issue, but I can blacklist it. Any ideas? [14:31] ShKoDrAnI (~ardit24@cpe-95-107-197-58.wifi.tring.al) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:31] The same goes for ppdev, lp, parport_pc and parport. [14:31] check the guest /etc/modprobe.d directory [14:32] pprkut: cool ;-) [14:33] indeed :) [14:33] alisonken1home, Nothing there that seems to load agpgart [14:33] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.30.50) joined ##slackware. [14:34] I think I have a customized .config for kvm, maybe [14:34] on my home network when I am ssh2 and ftp file transfers between computers, I am always limited to 1 MB/sec.. this seems way too slow, how do I turn it up? [14:34] its Slackware 13.1 and Mac OS X Leopard [14:34] rahulrp (~rahul@p57B07ED1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:34] KaMii: 10Mbps hardware? [14:34] KaMii: check your home router and see if it's limiting - slackware transfers as fast as the network allows [14:35] also, are you doing this via wireless? [14:35] im not sure how to check that, I just have a crappy D-link DIR-301 [14:35] no, no wifi [14:35] if both machines are wireless, then they have to take turns with the wireless connections [14:36] adrien, Sounds nice! Would you mind pastebinning it? [14:36] ShKoDrAnI (~ardit24@cpe-95-107-197-100.wifi.tring.al) joined ##slackware. [14:37] i do notice that I rarely see internet traffic go above 1 MB/sec but speedtest says i have 10 MB up/down which is correct, thats what i pay for [14:37] ThomasLocke: not sure where it is and I have to review it [14:37] also, 32bit or 64bit? [14:37] 64 bit. [14:37] I think one time I was downwloading off the internet at 3 mb/sec [14:38] KaMii: dmesg | grep Mbps, how much does it give? [14:38] so im just not sure why my internal network is going so slow, is it the Macintosh, linux, or router? i dont think its the router, because I use to have just a switch and I still only ever got 1 MB/s [14:39] ThomasLocke: probably not tonight since I'm really dead tired, probably tomorrow (I live in France) [14:39] adrien: that returned nothing [14:39] adrien, No problem. I'm in no hurry. :o) [14:39] padhu (~Padhu@175.40.56.58) left irc: Quit: Going to bed.......... [14:39] but my conky net meter is showing only 1 MB/s and so is Cyberduck (FTP program in Mac OS X which is initiating the upload) [14:40] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [14:40] freelibrary (~notRoot@p548F5AC5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:42] AlexElliott (~alex@2002:3e1f:a475:1234:21e:68ff:fe9b:9499) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:42] AlexElliott (~alex@2002:3e1f:a475:1234:21e:68ff:fe9b:9499) joined ##slackware. [14:43] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-211-11.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [14:43] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-211-11.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:43] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:44] spaceplo_ (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-vyulttzxiborolky) left ##slackware. [14:44] im extremely disappointed with my computer performance [14:44] i think it's because of the heat [14:44] :S did i kill everyone? [14:44] Yandertal (~Yandertal@ip09.rdlbnc.com) left irc: Changing host [14:44] Yandertal (~Yandertal@unaffiliated/yandertal) joined ##slackware. [14:44] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-208-161.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [14:45] jeev: the heat killed one of my SATA ports on the MB... grrrrrrrrr [14:46] WireWulf (ASTRO-PUNK@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-ppykommtdkopwtqw) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:46] if it was heat, maybe you just popped a trace [14:46] AlexElliott (~alex@2002:3e1f:a475:1234:21e:68ff:fe9b:9499) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:46] something popped.... anyway, so how do i turn up the bandwith on ftp ssh transfers on my home network? [14:47] AlexElliott (~alex@2002:3e1f:a475:1234:21e:68ff:fe9b:9499) joined ##slackware. [14:47] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:47] A bit off topic but... [14:47] http://tinyurl.com/2vjn5sm [14:47] :D [14:48] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:48] i dont know but honestly my computer always performs crappy [14:48] i think it's cause i have so many HD's [14:48] they end up sleeping, one or the other.. slows down perf when i wanna do something [14:49] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] but they will wake up jeev when u access some file on them, I think so [14:50] dmesg on my Mac says the link is up at 100 Mbps [14:50] but its only going at 1 Mbps [14:51] that's just between the mac and the router - not throughput to another host [14:51] so the hangup is the router? [14:51] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:51] beginning to look like it [14:51] figures [14:51] hate that router [14:51] piece of trash [14:52] maybe theres a brick in it? :P [14:52] but then why was the speed the same on a port switch no router? [14:54] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-208-161.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:55] NaCl (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:55] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-217-188.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [14:59] rheault (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [15:00] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-65-60.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:01] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:02] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:02] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.52.40.static.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:02] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-182-167.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:04] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:06] gezley (~gezley@86-42-210-43-dynamic.b-ras1.cld.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [15:08] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:09] rahulrp (rahul@p57B07ED1.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:09] the router is a 4 port 10/100 switch [15:09] so it should be traveling faster than 1 MB/s [15:11] instead of ssh+ftp, did you try sftp? [15:11] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-106-45.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:13] cant remember [15:15] measure your link's throughput with netcat [15:15] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:16] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [15:16] http://phra.gs:8000/ [15:17] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-70-197.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:18] nachox (~Ignacio@9-99-235-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:18] gezley (~gezley@86-42-210-43-dynamic.b-ras1.cld.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Quit: gezley [15:18] kinda hard, all my ports seem to be closed [15:19] KaMii: 10Mb -> 1.25MB [15:20] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [15:20] KaMii: 10Mb is "10 mega-bits [15:20] " [15:20] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [15:20] 1BM is "one mega-byte" [15:20] 1MB rather [15:20] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-182-167.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:20] ok i got it open [15:21] whe the B is lower case, it's bits, when the B is upper case, its bytes (8-bits) [15:21] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.230.160) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:21] symantecs... [15:21] Semantics that is [15:21] semantics have meanings in this context [15:21] Leave Norton out of this! [15:21] lol [15:21] nc gave me a protocol mismatch [15:21] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:21] Are you duslactic? [15:22] i always confuse Mb MB [15:22] or whatever it is [15:22] all i know is something is borked somewhere [15:22] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:23] it should not take me 2 hours to transfer a 5 gig file from one computer to another on my home network [15:23] nvision (~nvision@g224251068.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:23] it would be faster to just copy it onto a usb stick, then plug it into the other compter and copy it over again [15:25] and it cannot be the router, because I was having the same issue on my 5 port switch [15:25] KaMii - If you think your network should be faster, try running "ifconfig -a" and look for RX and/or TX errors. Are they non-zero? [15:25] so its either the Macintosh being dumb, or linux has something configured to limit [15:26] KaMii: or you have a crappy eth hub or a crappy cable [15:26] 0 errors [15:26] no its not cables [15:26] could be the macintosh though [15:26] its... had its issues [15:26] 3 HDD have died, one MB melted in it [15:26] it has been repaired i forget how many times [15:27] wifi over heated once [15:27] MB melted... made of wax? :P [15:27] thats what the mac tech told me [15:27] KaMii: also look at your interface with ethtool - is it properly auto-negotiating? [15:27] i took it in, because it was under warranty, they said when they opened it, the MB was melted [15:27] idk, i never saw it [15:28] uhhh, i have never used ethtool before [15:29] Run "ethtool eth0" or whatever your nic's name is [15:29] And examine the output [15:30] Supports auto-negotiation: Yes [15:30] but then further down it says, Auto-negotiationn: no [15:30] try a crossover cable and direct connect between the linux box and the apple box - manually configure an interface, then see what the transfer speeds are [15:30] err, haha, sorry, dyslexic moment there [15:30] On.. not No [15:31] hrm... i have no crossover cables, and no tools to make one, i am susspecting the issue is on the Macintosh [15:32] I found long ago that crossover cable/adapters help with troubleshooting router/hub issues [15:32] and they're not too expensive [15:32] jgeboski (jgeboski@97.72.86.194) left ##slackware. [15:33] in sweden, everythings expensive [15:35] Action: KaMii looks to find the macintosh chatroom [15:42] jgeboski (~jgeboski@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [15:42] is there a way to turn off ssh ftp and all other attempts made to root? [15:43] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:44] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-182-167.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:45] KaMii: /etc/ssh/sshd_config: PermitRootLogin no [15:47] thanks alisonken1home [15:47] KaMii: also, on the linux box for the sftp daemon, man vsftpd [15:47] see /etc/vsftpd.conf [15:48] AlexElliott_ (~alex@cpc5-aztw11-0-0-cust116.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:48] im in the macosx room, looks like the issue might be a slow processor on my macintosh [15:48] AlexElliott (~alex@2002:3e1f:a475:1234:21e:68ff:fe9b:9499) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:48] is it mac osx or mac os/9 also? [15:48] sdi (~sdi@111-240-210-164.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:48] OS X [15:48] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [15:49] ok - osx is a bsd setup, so it's probably a slower machine [15:50] haha, well that machine is super slow [15:50] i cant do anything on it [15:52] so i go in OS X and immediatly i get flamed by a linux hater, his solution? the problem is on linux.... i hate trolls [15:52] welcome to IRC :) [15:53] and they say linux zealots are the problem ;) [15:53] I've got a cisco netgear router - the only reason it's slow is because the computer on the other side is on wireless [15:53] zealots sound wonderful [15:53] skycrash (~sky@187.59.93.226) joined ##slackware. [15:53] they taste great with ketchup [15:54] haha thats exactly what he said alisonken1home [15:54] BP{k}: mayo :) [15:54] lamefun (~dingbing@92.246.161.75) joined ##slackware. [15:54] ya, problem is with a slow macintosh processor [15:54] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:55] normal ftp with no security should speed things up right? [15:55] might be a little better on the mac - no guarantees [15:56] if cpu bound, yes : check with 'top' on the mac [15:57] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [15:58] hehe, ya, top on the mac... top alone eats 10 - 20% cpu [15:59] which it should not, my ibm thinkpad pentium 90... top hardly eats much, maybe 5% [15:59] NaCl (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [16:00] alisonken1home: so on this sshd_config i probably dont want to change the default value so just put yes and leave it commented? the description is a little confusing to me [16:00] KaMii: the default is 'PermitRootLogin yes" - which allows root login [16:00] mannynix (~mannynix@200.77.64.213) joined ##slackware. [16:01] change "yes" to "no", restart sshd [16:01] rhys (~Rhys@c-24-13-104-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] ok thanks [16:01] Nick change: rhys -> Guest69013 [16:01] you can also increase securtiy by disabling keyboard logins and only allow ssh key logins - which means you have to get your ssh public key over to the server somehow :) [16:02] ya... i will not mess with that [16:02] and can I block certain users from being sshd into? [16:03] I want to remove all users that have su rights [16:03] yes - you can look at the per-user options [16:03] ok cool i will read through all that [16:03] su is anybody that has the root password [16:03] you may be thinking of sudo - which is not allowed by default on slack [16:03] oh, i thought i could disable su from certain groups [16:03] you have to set it up [16:03] Nick change: Sauron|Out -> BiCHiTo [16:04] su requires the root password [16:04] Roin (~florian@p5B2BF2B7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:04] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [16:04] yes i know, but sshing into root also requires the password [16:04] sudo only requires the user who wants to su do a program, and sudo setup to get root priviledge for htat command [16:04] so... whats the point then of turning it off [16:04] i hate sudo...... [16:05] KaMii: by telling sshd_config - and also vsftpd to disallow root logins, they have to login as themselves - and sftp does not allow you to change user once you're connected [16:05] if root login is disabled, then ssh works only for their user login - they still have to su to root once they log in [16:06] right, but you can still su and then gain root access [16:06] i wanted to remove the option [16:06] true - if they have the root password [16:06] so you have to be physically at the system if you want root access [16:06] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [16:07] if you the admin are the only one with the root password, then you the admin are the only one that can use su [16:07] until someone breaks it [16:07] idk seems a bit unsecure to me, maybe not? [16:07] not under normal circumstances and if you use a decent root password [16:08] hi, folks. any experience with pidgin-vv on slackware? [16:08] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-155-167.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:08] the only ones that might have an issue is on public-facing servers [16:08] sirslacker: pidgin-vv ? [16:09] ok, i just really need to read up on networking and security [16:09] alisonken1home: pidgin voice and video [16:09] i tried it with almost all packages on their newest version, but they don't work as they had to together, to much noise and video doesn't work correctly at all. [16:09] KaMii: if you are so concerned, i'd suggest using /dev/urandom to generate a password [16:09] ah - I use pidgin, but haven't played with vv since it's not ready yet [16:09] Action: KaMii already uses random passwords [16:10] alisonken1home: it had to work for gtalk! [16:10] KaMii: but before you do that, use visudo to add a user account to sudoers so that you can login without having to enter with something you can't remember [16:10] but what im saying is, passwords can be cracked. now if you turn off the option to su... then. well you gotta find another way in [16:10] sirslacker: haven't played with gtalk yet either :) [16:11] godane (~arch@c-75-68-6-221.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] KaMii: to brut force a password of acceptable complexity will take years [16:12] maybe im just overly paranoid, idk, but thought maybe the option to remove su from a user accout was possible [16:12] i think you are thinking of sudo [16:12] what I was planning on doing was turning off ssh for all users but one. and that one user does not have sudo or su capability [16:12] but i guess its not possible [16:12] i know you can turn sudo off for users, just dont put them in the group [16:12] alisonken1home: maybe you r using skype? [16:13] it thought the option was the same with su [16:13] su is just a binary used to gain the rights of another user if you know their password& this predates sudo [16:13] to prevent a user from going super [16:13] you need shell access to even try and use su [16:13] ya, and i want to turn that off for the ssh user [16:13] if you keep your passwords secure, and rotate them ever 90 days, you are 98% safe [16:14] korg815 (~korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [16:14] KaMii: you don't want ssh users to be able to use su? [16:14] sirslacker: the wife uses skype to talk to her sister overseas [16:14] KaMii: "man suauth" [16:14] alisonken1home: on slackware? [16:14] hmm.... it feels like I answered the same question few days ago [16:15] sirslacker: yes [16:15] also huludesktop with flash [16:15] freelibrary (~notRoot@p548F5AC5.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:15] sirslacker: opps! ok on 13? skype beta 2.2? [16:16] ok... again, heres what I want to do, but sure if its possible and all i want is a yes, possible, or no, not possible, or well you could but..... : turn off ssh for all users, create one user that can be sshd into, turn off sudo and su for that user. therefore I dont have to worry about password hacking cracking etc [16:16] alisonken1home: ^^ [16:16] KaMii: it can be done using groups [16:16] sirslacker: slackware 13.1 and huludesktop 0.9.7 according to the help->about->version [16:16] ok, thats what I though [16:17] so what group is the su group? [16:17] that's probably what I told you few days ago [16:17] su is not a group - it's a program [16:17] everyone can use su [16:17] now, you can change that [16:17] I believe it's suid root [16:17] you can use suauth to control the behavior of su [16:18] aha, what alienBOB was saing... ok i will take a look at suid [16:18] suid is a permission bit - follow mako-sama suggestion and gniks suggestion to look at suauth file [16:18] because if I can turn off su for one user, then thats what I want, sorta put him in jail [16:20] alisonken1home: i didnt even hear about hulu desktop till now! gonna read about this. tanx [16:20] uhmm, if you are afraid of password brute forcing from inside, you shouldn't be giving out shell accounts in the first place [16:20] sirslacker: there's no slackbuild for it officially yet on slackbuilds.org - but you can get the redhat rpm and convert it [16:22] ananke: im not giving out shell accounts, im just trying to learn security and stuff and wanted to know if its possible. I am getting a server soon so I want to learn all about networking and security before i get the server [16:22] KaMii: "man suauth" - again [16:23] alienbob is on the right track [16:23] i will alienBOB [16:23] thanks [16:23] hey alienBOB [16:23] your going to need more than a few days to learn all about networking and security iirc ;) [16:23] KaMii: it's unlikely you'll learn 'all' about networking and security. regardless, best way to avoid that problem is to NOT give out any unnecessary accounts. [16:23] i got your source code for slackware-live [16:23] alisonken1home: hmm! probably i can not convert it! my last try was IBM lotus, and it has take so much time! :D [16:23] KaMii: there is no /etc/suauth file on a stock slackware install - you can "man suauth" and create it [16:23] KaMii: there is a sample /etc/suauth in the man page [16:23] gniks: who said I only had a few days? huh? [16:23] i even made a git repo for it [16:23] KaMii: if you're trying to secure su, you should also do something about sudo [16:24] godane: again, I do not have any source code that I wrote for slackware-live [16:24] sirslacker: on slackware "rpm2tgz" then untar it, modify if needed, then "makepkg" to create a proper slackware package [16:24] unless soon has been redefined to mean something else, thats what i assumed :) [16:24] KaMii: few days, few weeks, same thing. [16:24] If you found code, it is someone else's [16:24] alienBOB; http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/sallu/alienbob/ [16:24] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-182-167.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] Yes, that is made by LJH [16:25] alisonken1home: i know this, but sometimes it doesnt so easy! on lotus, it was such a disaster [16:25] Or was it LHJ? [16:26] lotus is not even close to being a clean rpm2tgz :) huludesktop is basically the huludesktop program and some icons - the ~/.huludesktop file is create when you first start it, then you can edit the flashplugin location by editing ~/.huludesktop [16:26] hrm... ananke just sounds like your saying i am not capable of learning networking/security :S [16:26] the change I had to make was to tell the huludesktop.desktop file that the huludesktop icon is huludesktop.png [16:26] Ah, that's ananke's way of being kind to you KaMii [16:27] KaMii: i'd say that to anybody at your level of expertise [16:27] alisonken1home: i wonder, u mean with hulu desktop the skype gonna work? [16:27] sirslacker: I have both running right now [16:27] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432376.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:27] thats why im getting the server, so i can learn [16:28] alisonken1home: on kde 4? [16:28] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:28] sirslacker: the only limitation is that only one program can access the camera at a time [16:28] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432376.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:28] KaMii: and no, i never said you [or anybody] was incapable of learning those subjects. i clearly said that a short period of time is insufficient to learn 'all' about those topics [16:29] and having 'a server' doesn't impact the learning pace in any significant way [16:31] it will me, becaues I wont be afraid to screw it all up, so I will be doing a lot of things with it [16:31] alisonken1home: so far i tried last time, skype 2.2 has some issues with kde. as i tried to send a message, it has crashed totaly!! [16:31] and once i mess it up, i will just reinstall and go again [16:31] KaMii: exactly [16:32] nothing wrong with sand castles...;) [16:32] KaMii: are you getting this server from a hosting prvider? [16:32] no, im buying it [16:32] it will sit on the floor next to my computer [16:32] ok, i was gonna say, if you do be careful, as a lot of them charge re-install fees :) [16:33] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-106-45.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [16:33] ya, im not going to pay for an online server [16:33] Nick change: BiCHiTo -> Sauron|Out [16:33] i want it in my home [16:33] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-106-45.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:33] New Stats: http://phra.gs:8000/ =) [16:33] sirslacker: I'm using the slackbuilds.org version from a few montsh ago of skype - version 2.0 - upgrading now to skype 2.1 to test it out [16:33] i mean if I paid for it, then turne off all ssh su options... haha, that would be dumb [16:34] in the mean time http://imagebin.org/105706 <-- my home desktop from a few months ago [16:34] so your also going to be behind a NAT, no way for people to even get in without port forwarding :p [16:34] tekzilla (~jon@d086082.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:34] for now it will be behind until I learn enough about security [16:34] my mistake - from 06-17 [16:34] when i get comfortable, i will put it in the DMZ [16:35] well you can [16:35] err, pressed enter to soon [16:35] well you can't have a true DMZ on most home connections, unless your ISP actually gives you two IPs [16:35] hehe i do that all the time [16:35] my isp give me... 5 i think [16:35] interesting, you have a business line? :p [16:35] either 3 or 5 [16:36] no, its just normal [16:36] with my isp [16:36] they do that [16:36] wow, what ISP? [16:36] ive never heard of that [16:36] every company in Sweden I know of gives at least 3 [16:36] tekzilla (~jon@d129037.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [16:36] ah, that would do it [16:36] companies in the US are greedy :) [16:37] gniks: rather they have a limited number of those [16:37] I used a linux box with 3 nics to create a dmz, private, and internet router [16:37] they do, but the US has the majority of the IPv4 space [16:37] and in reality, only a very small fraction of customers would ever need more than one IP [16:37] since the US started the internet ... :) [16:37] thats true everywhere, not just in the US [16:37] isnt europe on ipv6? [16:38] KaMii: you tell us [16:38] actualyl, darpanet in hawaii was the beginnings [16:38] or idk what im talking about most the time [16:38] i think its ipv6 [16:38] the alohanet I believe is what it was called [16:38] was based on ham radio network [16:38] europe is leading the world in IPv6 deployment, because they actually have even more limited IP space than the US [16:38] alisonken1home: 8080 based computers,right? [16:39] I should ipv6 one day [16:39] it however, isn't deployed enough all over the world to push for rapid deployment [16:39] MLanden: hmm - depends on the ham radio group :) [16:39] but the original internet was based on darpanet milspec equipment contracted out [16:39] before the 8080 processors were deemed good enough [16:40] well all i know is that Sweden has soo much internet and bandwidth, Russia gets their internet from us [16:40] lulz arpanet :D [16:40] and... that caused a little problem because the swedish government got caught reading Russian government emails [16:40] ahaha [16:40] alisonken1home: thank you for the skype tipp! ;) it works, better than 2.2 beta! [16:40] well, every country gets their internet from other countries [16:41] what? you mean internet is international? :o [16:41] haha [16:41] but i read a report that all of russia gets their internet from Sweden [16:41] but idk [16:41] slava_dp (~slava@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:41] Russia needs to learn about IPsec if they are getting stuff read by other countries :D [16:41] sirslacker: np [16:41] thats possible kamii, but that must have to do with politics more than anything [16:41] well since it all comes in from Sweden... it gets here first, so idk, it happened [16:42] governments should be encrypting all of their communications anyway [16:42] alisonken1home: ok...thanks [16:42] gniks: no kidding [16:42] if they don't, its their own fault :p [16:42] unless they bought that encryption from Sweden [16:42] hahaha [16:43] rheault (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:43] hahaa, if only it could be bought like that [16:43] idk, i just heard about it, it was like 2 years ago or something [16:43] KaMii: that would be so wrong [16:44] russia *used* to keep their government computers intentionally incompatible with tcp/ip [16:44] china wanted to go that route, and make a "separated" internet [16:44] the great firewall [16:44] blah [16:44] its not the great firewall [16:44] nyRednek: wine(stable) is up to 1.2...palm desktop might run...YMMV [16:44] they wanted to create their own network technologies [16:45] and some how patch it into the TCP/IP Internet [16:45] MLanden: i'll see [16:45] MLanden: i had to brick my wine dir due to the uninstaller failing [16:48] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. 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[16:51] MLanden: i'm feeling lazy today [16:51] 1.2 works with the current sbo [16:51] just change the version number [16:51] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-206-77.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:51] i built it earlier today [16:51] KaMii: again, i'm feeling particularly lazy today [16:51] lol [16:52] Roin (~florian@p5B2BF2B7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:52] wow... thats super lazy hehe [16:52] KaMii: i've done that with differing slackbuild scripts, i even maintain a few slackbuild archives on SBo [16:52] nano wine.SlackBuild [16:52] KaMii: in short, i don't wanna [16:53] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-211-151.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:54] KaMii: are you in the area of Sweden that has the midnight sun this time of year [16:56] troy (~troy@dsl-67-55-6-203.acanac.net) joined ##slackware. [16:58] well it never really fully gets dark [16:58] and i hate it [17:01] midnigh sun sounds cold and interesting [17:02] Action: alienBOB just built wine-1.2 with a proper icon added (just so you know, troy) [17:05] phalakos (~phalakos@115.241.23.139) joined ##slackware. [17:05] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-140.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:05] Nick change: Guest69013 -> rhys [17:06] oh hai. [17:06] hi [17:06] i am vicky [17:06] HI too [17:07] Who's vicky? [17:07] hi three [17:07] phalakos apparently. [17:07] r u a programmar [17:07] ? [17:07] I am rhys. [17:07] No I am not a programmer [17:07] then who r u? [17:07] define programmer. Kinda of a sliding scale eh? [17:08] I am a distro developer [17:08] interesting, RHCE doesn't mention anything about /etc/suauth :p [17:08] from which country [17:08] gniks: suoders? [17:08] gniks: probably because that will not work on RHEL.... [17:08] sudoers is for sudo command [17:08] gniks: RH uses the sudo model [17:08] slack can use teh sudo model as well though [17:08] i am a serious hacker [17:09] from india [17:09] good [17:09] oh good, another country for me to block :) [17:09] ahahahhaha [17:09] Nice for you [17:09] and on that note. A few pictures. [17:09] i am now developing ai [17:09] phalakos: did you have a slackware question? or just hanging around to learn the channel? [17:09] artificial intelligence [17:10] for humankind [17:10] can u help [17:10] He/she pm-ed me and I asked to join ##slackware instead [17:10] If stupid Meg Whitman looses her election, and I hope she does, it's because of ebay's freaking 'final fees'. [17:10] aaaaa [17:10] hmmm - artificial intelligence brings to mind Terminator or HAL9000 [17:10] Sir, I practise hacking. [17:10] http://yfrog.com/m9picture1qp [17:10] Who wants a tshirt? [17:11] heh [17:11] no i am working on making an os whome will have sense [17:11] Action: nyRednek has to do dishes, and help clean up house so we can go to yonkers [17:11] http://yfrog.com/izpracticehackingfacebookp << Someone sent a message on facebook to someone at PS:1 [17:11] Action: alisonken1home has to do some housework too before he goes to pick up the wife [17:11] alisonken1home: or him--> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Mickey ... shutters [17:12] shutters or shudders [17:12] :) [17:12] ok - metal micky is defnitely on the list :) [17:13] is there any american [17:13] alisonken1home: ok, talk later, then [17:13] phalakos: yes [17:13] from which city [17:13] alisonken1home: right...shudders...thanks [17:13] Rancho Cucamonga - just outside of Riverside [17:14] in California [17:14] are u male or female? [17:14] close to the Ontario Airport [17:14] phalakos: give you a hint: [14:09:12] alisonken1home has to do some housework too before he goes to pick up the wife [17:14] alisonken1home: i'm familiar with rancho cucamonga [17:14] phalakos: also in america [17:15] nyRednek: just up the street from Ontario Airport [17:15] alisonken1home: i know [17:15] basically 2 blocks north of the RR tracks [17:15] is there any serious programmer [17:15] alisonken1home: i used to have a terminal in ontario [17:15] ? [17:16] Wulf-is-not-here (ASTRO-PUNK@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-gpinvucsjxjqmpxq) joined ##slackware. [17:16] alisonken1home: that's when i worked for the company with the fegala blue trucks [17:16] Nick change: Wulf-is-not-here -> WireWulf [17:16] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:16] alisonken1home: and the digital logs [17:16] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:18] How do I mount CIFS on startup? Placing it in my fstab doesn't work because my network doesnt start when it attemps the mount [17:18] redtricycle: put it in your rc.local [17:18] mount -a, you mean? [17:19] wouldn't that be something that should be corrected in slackware? you can mount networked file systems in pretty much every other distro on boot in fstab [17:19] redtricycle: i'd just say the cifs mount [17:19] gniks: it typically works with slackware, if he's using the init system to go online [17:19] ah ok :p [17:19] gniks: if he's using NetworkManager or wicd, it doesn't work [17:19] ive never tried it in slack [17:20] ive forgotten where in the boot process inet1 gets started [17:20] gniks: it's before mounting remote fs's [17:20] look at /etc/rc.d/rc.M [17:22] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-70-197.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:23] alisonken1home: [17:23] can't i simply move wicd before the mount command? [17:23] any side effects to that? [17:24] redtricycle: you would also have to have some extra checks to make sure that the resources are available - if you change netowrks, the same resource may not be available on the new network connection [17:24] these mac OS X idiots... they are getting funnier.. they are telling me things are impossible in slackware that I know are not impossible [17:24] and then their answer is... well its not point and click so abandon it [17:25] KaMii: scared of the terminal? [17:25] i think they are just scared [17:25] MLanden: that was what the mac channel heads were telling KaMii :) [17:26] Mac is slowly turning into windoze its just wrong [17:26] what's impossible in slackware? [17:26] no its not [17:26] Mac is very unix based [17:27] alisonken1home: hmm...lol...that is bad [17:27] i know its unix based, but they are going to point-click [17:27] mac osx is - since it's using bsd as it's based [17:27] but osx is continuing the mac tradition of point/click introduced in the original macintosh before windows went ggui [17:27] gui [17:31] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-155-167.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [17:31] alisonken1home: mac 68k's? [17:31] MLanden: yep [17:32] exactly, mac has always been point and click [17:32] the only major problem with MacOS is that if you're unwilling to do things the way MacOS was designed to facilitate, you're SOL. there's little to no room for real control. [17:33] yes and no [17:33] you can get into the system, and do things the bsd way [17:33] godane (~arch@c-75-68-6-221.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:34] Anyone who is getting of has gotten private messages to join #slackhappy, could you please report to me? Thanks [17:35] It's fine with me if cpunches has his own channel, but our channel's guidelines are quite clear: do not start a PM uninvited [17:36] No pm's here, just a couple invites around when he first started the channel. [17:36] neonflux (~neonflux@69.198.135.242) joined ##slackware. [17:37] Action: KaMii always place people on ignore if they pvt me unwanted [17:38] I use irssi's whitelist script, so aside from a few people, everyone else gets blocked. [17:38] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [17:38] it shows me someone tried to pm me, but I don't get the actual pm [17:39] gezley (~gezley@86-42-210-43-dynamic.b-ras1.cld.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [17:39] heya,fire|bird...how've you been? [17:40] MLanden, been good, thanks. you? [17:40] fire|bird: keepin' cool thanks [17:42] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:42] MLanden, what's cool? 90F here and storms in the forecast. :P [17:42] thank goodness for A/C [17:43] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [17:43] fire|bird: was 94F and finally some rain [17:44] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [17:44] MLanden, yikes, the heat itself isn't bad, but the humidity is high here too, I wish that would go away. [17:44] official is 30C but my back step thermometer says 40C. Humidex is officially 36C [17:45] any way i can test my linux sftp connection speed? [17:45] fire|bird: true [17:45] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.52.40.static.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:45] im wondering if the issue is hardware [17:46] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:46] KaMii: use iperf [17:46] NyteOwl: thermometer in direct sunlight? [17:46] no, suns on the other side of the house [17:47] whats iperf? [17:47] i dont have it [17:47] should start droppin though. a little breeze has come up and it's moving into evening [17:47] iperf is a tool to test connection speeds [17:48] http://sourceforge.net/projects/iperf/ [17:49] NyteOwl: ok [17:50] building [17:50] NyteOwl: most of the maritimes been a scorcher? [17:50] troy (~troy@dsl-67-55-6-203.acanac.net) left irc: Read error: No route to host [17:51] hi kamii [17:51] troy (~troy@67.55.6.203) joined ##slackware. [17:51] KaMii: you can always use another linux machine :) I've got slackware 12.1 installed on a 486 and it transfers files pretty good (no gui - just cli - but it works fine) [17:51] ShKoDrAnI (~ardit24@cpe-95-107-197-100.wifi.tring.al) left irc: [17:52] hey, does anyone know a way to get 16 audio input channels into one PC? - I dont need a mixer or anything, basic phono/composite or 3.5mm microphone jack will do [17:52] well i do have a p1 90 i can test against then [17:52] thats this machine [17:52] just dont know how to test, though [17:52] he is going to need another linux machien for this anyway ;) [17:52] i dont have much space on here to transfer files [17:52] this machine is using slackware 11.0 [17:52] and my desktop is slackware 13.1 [17:53] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [17:53] KaMii: just hook it up on your network and d/l a file from one of the other machines, then test transfers to the mac and the other linux machine [17:53] you should use the same kernels when using this to test&. differences in kernel TCP stacks can cause anomalies [17:53] well, no HDD space, thats the issue [17:53] ftp and sftp haven't changed that much s [17:54] KaMii: find a large file that's already on your system - then try transferring that [17:54] hrm... whats a large file on this beast [17:56] another option would be to find another disk you can shove into it [17:57] what are you guys testing for? [17:57] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:57] antiwire: he had a slow file transfer between his apple and his linux - he wants to test out file transfer speeds with different o/s-hardware setups to see where the bottleneck is [17:58] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-182-167.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: bbiab [17:58] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-106-45.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [17:58] install iperf [17:58] thats what i said [17:58] hehe [17:58] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:59] this comp is only allowing 300kb/s processor gets maxed out [17:59] wont go faster [17:59] How do you change arch in new slackbuilds? Edit the one in case? [17:59] depending on the NIC network traffic can be rather CPU intensive [17:59] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [17:59] what are the system specs and what mode of transfer are you using? [17:59] sftp [17:59] john_dee: export ARCH="..." [17:59] which system? [18:00] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:00] is it 10/100 or 1000? both systems [18:00] 10/100 [18:00] then start slbopkg or execute the slackbuild [18:00] well sftp is slower than ftp to start with due to the encryption overehad [18:00] phalakos (~phalakos@115.241.23.139) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:01] it is also more CPU intensive [18:01] alisonken1home: Uh ok tnx [18:01] try normal FTP/ http transfers or iperf. then you can determine if it is a network resource or system resource issue [18:01] so you just want to test network speed? [18:01] aka: no disk & suchlike? [18:01] alphageek: he wants to see if the linux box is the bottleneck or the mac box is the bottleneck in a large file transfer [18:02] ahh [18:02] I'd start by taking the ssh overhead out of the picture first of all [18:02] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432376.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:02] does the mac have nc, dd, & time? [18:03] most macs should have those tools [18:04] http://iperf.darwinports.com [18:04] i cant ftp, connection refused.... [18:04] godane (~arch@c-75-68-6-221.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:04] sftp works [18:04] blah, where am i blocking ftp [18:04] KaMii: for a quick check, edit /etc/inetd.conf and uncomment the ftp line on the linux box [18:04] sftp works over ssh (most commonly), you need to run an ftp daemon to use standard ftp [18:04] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432376.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:04] then restart inetd [18:04] here's a quickie test I use (it's 2 parts) [18:05] first machine: dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=131072 2> /dev/null | nc -lp12345 -q1 [18:05] second machine: nc [first machine's hostname or IP] 12345 > /dev/null [18:05] otherwise, you can start vsftp in a window for standalone operation - just need to verify the config file and make sure it's in standalone mode [18:05] wup, slight omission [18:06] which one vsftp or proftp [18:06] second machine: time nc [first machine's hostname or IP] 12345 > /dev/null [18:06] divide 134217728 by the elapsed time to get bytes/sec. test both directions [18:06] KaMii: whichever one you want to use and can reasonably setup for testing [18:07] i dont know how to set up ftp..... i thought it was automatically setup to use... like ssh and sftp [18:07] nope - default is off on slackware since not everyone wants an anonymous ftp server floating around [18:08] oh... well now i gotta remember to turn them off when this is done [18:08] or use alphageek's suggestion [18:08] or iperf [18:08] that's why the open console start [pro|v]ftpd as standalone might be better :) [18:08] both of these don't require insecure protocols to be enabled [18:09] or follow alphageeks info above for a quick hack check [18:09] whats the command to reset/restart that service? [18:09] biab [18:09] mehax (5ed8e99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.216.233.155) joined ##slackware. [18:09] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [18:09] mehax kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: spammers [18:09] /etc/rc.d/rc.inetd restart [18:10] KaMii: uncomment the ftp line in /etc/inetd.conf then what antiwire said [18:10] for anonymous ftp you need to remove ftp user from /etc/ftpusers as well (with default settings) [18:12] just use your user account [18:12] whatever [18:14] well thats much faster [18:15] but its bouncing between 7 Mb/s to 300kb [18:15] maybe because its not one file but a folder of tons of small files [18:15] i will try to find one large file to dump [18:16] what are the CPU and ram specs of each endpoint? [18:16] wow.... thanks [18:16] my money is on CPU overhead from ssh [18:16] ftp is eating 40% on the mac [18:16] KaMii: if you have sbopkg installed and have installed some packages, look at the filesize of some of the slackbuild packages [18:17] and 18 % on slackware [18:17] srsly guys u guys srsly! [18:17] i have a few .iso files i still need to dump over alisonken1home [18:17] KaMii: well, there you go :) [18:17] so it was sftp slowing it down [18:18] I think so [18:18] security has a price [18:18] encryption always puts an overhead on the data [18:18] and the CPU [18:18] well luckily i dont have to use ftp often [18:18] gniks: that's a given [18:18] so i will just turn this off when im done [18:19] nyRednek: its not a given for everyone [18:19] mehax (~mehax@dslb-094-216-233-155.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [18:19] you can go ahead and comment out the ftp line in /etc/inetd.conf now - it doesn't take effect until inetd is restarted [18:20] already ahead of you [18:20] hehe [18:20] i have a problem :/ after installing slack i boot and what happens? nothing, my monitor isnt getting any signal.. [18:20] i tried it some times with different packages but it never worked.. [18:20] mehax: what's your setup and what version of slack? [18:20] 13.1 [18:21] what u mean with setup? [18:21] ok thanks a ton alisonken1home, antiwire alienBOB, gniks for the help [18:21] mehax: computer, graphics chip, etc. [18:21] sorry for pinging you all, just wanted you to see my thanks message [18:21] KaMii: np [18:21] np :) [18:21] ehm sec [18:22] Action: KaMii finds a networking linux book and reads it [18:22] alisonken1home: sounds like a lilo issue [18:22] KaMii: /topic and check some of the links [18:22] nyRednek: that too :) [18:22] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@24-196-69-180.static.mdsn.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:23] ya alisonken1home i have a bunch of ebooks already, just need to start reading them [18:23] heh [18:24] alisonken1home: he probably installed lilo to boot sector of / part, but didn't have a proper boot manager on mbr [18:24] nyRednek: another possibility [18:25] alisonken1home: that's my 2c [18:25] mehax: how did you install lilo? [18:25] alisonken1home: an easy fix, imho [18:25] ehrm i tried it without, manually and automaticly [18:25] :S [18:26] mehax: can you mount the partition from the boot cd? [18:26] mehax: ok - reboot from the cd/dvd - then _read_carefully_ and follow the instructions on "emergency booting your computer" [18:27] if you can get it to boot that way, then it's a good chance it's a framebuffer/boot issue [18:27] or a lilo config issue [18:27] where i can read it? [18:27] mehax when you boot the system do you at least get a lilo prompt? [18:28] yea [18:28] it will be on the boot screen when the cd/dvd boots up [18:28] try booting the system with vga=normal [18:28] everything boots [18:28] hm okay [18:28] _marc` (~marc@cl-3044.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:28] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:29] mehax: so like this boot: Linux vga=normal [18:29] Action: KaMii is thinking about putting slackintosh on my ibook G4 [18:29] troy (~troy@67.55.6.203) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:30] KaMii: step up :) [18:30] hehe [18:30] KaMii: it works on a g3 imac, so... [18:30] but not kde [18:30] xfce? flux? openbox [18:31] KaMii: on the g3, no X [18:31] troy (~troy@67.55.6.203) joined ##slackware. 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[18:37] that's what "boot=/dev/sda" tells lilo [18:38] if you give it a drive, it installs to mbr, if you give it a partition, it installs onto the partition - you typically want the mbr unless you're trying to dual-boot something else like windows [18:38] I always use mbr and chain load windows [18:39] antiwire: but you know what you're doing :) [18:39] partially [18:39] lol [18:40] alisonken1home: its transfering steady between 8 -9 Mb/s [18:41] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [18:42] KaMii: between the mac and linux? [18:42] yes [18:42] if yes, then the encryption is really hosing your mac cpu usage [18:42] doesnt surprise me [18:42] even top hoses it [18:42] whats with the domainname? can i skip it with cancel? [18:42] time to upgrade the mac :p [18:43] still bet if you disable graphics or go between two linux boxes, you'll get better performance as well :) [18:43] haha, cant upgrade it, its impossible [18:43] i mean, buy a new one ;) [18:43] mehax: I usually use a not-for-public-use network like "kens.network" [18:43] i figure if I put slackintosh on it, and run fluxbox [18:43] it should be faster [18:44] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [18:47] booting now :O [18:47] same shit eh >_> [18:48] uh, is anyone able to connect to the Tor Network? [18:49] ive tried 3 different servers (in germany, uk, canada), all nada. [18:49] *from 3 different... [18:51] Orlov (~richard@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Simples! [18:51] hrm... will skype work under slackintosh ppc? [18:52] KaMii: no. just junk that old machine [18:52] but i use it for skype and ichat [18:52] thats all i use it for [18:52] vvesley (~vv@unaffiliated/vvesley) joined ##slackware. [18:53] its the only machine that has a microphone [18:53] KaMii: i assume you use it with macosx, right? then stick to it [18:53] koolniczka (~nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) joined ##slackware. [18:53] and its my only international phone, which i need [18:53] vvesley (~vv@unaffiliated/vvesley) left irc: Client Quit [18:53] hrm, ok was just wondering if its possible [18:53] KaMii: what you need does not coincide with what's available [18:53] i might try it on an external [18:53] just to play around with it [18:53] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:56] KaMii: skype works just fine with a logitech webcam that I have [18:56] usb version [18:57] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [18:57] i dont have a webcam or use one, but I do use skype as my international phone [18:58] i need it, but sometimes I do use it with my PSP so I can walk around at home and talk [18:58] KaMii: the problem will be finding a skype program that works under slackintosh [18:59] you can always use skype on the linux machine [18:59] cant compile it myself? [18:59] no - skype is binary proprietrary program [18:59] KaMii: sure. you just need to get the source code [18:59] and good luck obtaining it [18:59] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:59] oh.... that sucks [18:59] unless you can talk the skype people into giving you the source :) [18:59] well i am in sweden [18:59] they were swedish [19:00] hah, you think that matters? [19:00] i can go find them and be like, hey... give me the source please [19:00] Action: ananke facepalms [19:00] if I ask nicely they might [19:00] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:01] sure they will. a multimillion dollar company, owned by amazon, will give up their most precious asset to some random kid [19:01] mhm [19:01] ananke's right. you should take cookies. [19:01] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [19:01] icecream, because its hot outside [19:01] and my bad. ebay owns them, not amazon. close enough :) [19:02] at least owned them for a few years [19:02] amazon pobably owns ebay somehow, some way [19:02] everyone owns everyone else, thats how we get around slavery laws [19:02] Action: ananke wonders what KaMii has been smoking [19:02] Action: KaMii doesnt smoke, only steals beer from her pappa when hes not looking [19:03] female? [19:03] my pappa? [19:03] um no, hes not a female [19:03] u [19:03] yes im a girl person [19:03] okay:) [19:04] thats why skype will give me their source, cuz im a girl [19:04] well, it's always nice to have a dream :) [19:04] thinking positive [19:04] figures. a female is discovered in a geek channel, suddenly some folks start to pay attention [19:05] ananke: the oldest story in the world [19:05] "What? Where?" [19:05] all i see in here is letters, numbers, and punctuation, no gender [19:05] ananke: adolescent males cannot ignore the possibility of getting close to a woman [19:06] no matter what side of the keyboard they are on? [19:06] KaMii: the more elusive, the more motivated a person is [19:06] KaMii: young males have something called "hormones" - it's a replacement for drugs when perceived females are around [19:06] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [19:07] and geek males are no different - they just have more dreamst about it [19:07] dreams [19:07] Action: KaMii sprays all the boys with unmodivated hormone spray [19:07] alisonken1home [19:07] alisonken1home: exactly [19:07] by axe [19:07] what are you talking ab out? [19:07] you a girl that is claiming to know about men? [19:07] masterslakk: you've missed a few posts - I'm the "ken" part of "alisonken1" [19:07] :) [19:08] hahaha [19:08] oic [19:08] Action: ut wondered what kind of name alisonken was [19:08] -.- still dont work ehh [19:08] and a good chance old enough to be at least half this channels father or even grandfather [19:08] KaMii: you're safe from most of us, considering that quite a few of us are married [19:08] and the rest are geographically distant [19:08] ut: it's from when the wife and I were first dating and using juno.com dial-up email [19:08] :D [19:08] im only safe because im in a virtual room with you [19:09] Action: KaMii saw a boy once... wasnt impressed [19:09] I remember juno.com. I was in elementary school. [19:09] KaMii: no, you're safe because even if you were in an actual room with me, my wife is less than 6' from me [19:09] someone is whipped [19:09] lol [19:09] and I'll be going to pick up my wife shortly [19:10] KaMii: s/whipped/physically disabled, requiring assistance to stand/ [19:10] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:10] oh, well thats a different story then [19:10] KaMii: in us older generations, it's also known as "respecting the spouse" :) [19:11] Action: KaMii is duel citizen, USA/Sweden [19:11] as well as honoring our vows [19:11] alisonken1home: you know these kids don't put any stock in someone keeping their word/vow [19:12] nyRednek: well, it does seem like "honor" (among other things) are a little lacking in a lot of them :) [19:12] alisonken1home: yeah, agreed... [19:12] heh .. distance between me and keth .. about 1' if not less [19:13] distance between me and the wife is <100 miles - and closing :) [19:13] BP{k}: wife and i are across the room [19:13] nyRednek: our computers are pretty much next to each other [19:14] BP{k}: we used to do that... [19:14] we still do - especially when she wants a foot rub :) [19:15] nyRednek: in our case its cos we don't have a whole lot of choice - space is somewhat limited in our home [19:15] although i have to say.. footrubs sound good too [19:15] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:15] we used to have a pair of desktops connected via a crossover cable, using nfs and nis [19:15] http://michielvwessem.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/computer.jpg <-- our computers with the old crt monitors [19:16] we have wireless router connected to the dsl - so her laptop, and my 3 laptops can share with the desktop [19:16] my computer has an old crt [19:17] is that one of those clickety clack alps switch keyboards? [19:17] ut: yes. a `das keyboard - model II' [19:17] Action: ut meant the other one, but grins [19:18] nyRednek: "old" in the sense of "used to have".. we have flatscreens now. [19:18] Action: ut types on a unicomp m when he can [19:18] ut: nah the model M is my backup keyboard. ;-) [19:18] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-182-167.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:18] the icl on the left is also mechanical and makes a racket if kethry types on it. ;-) [19:19] Pumpkins1979 (~asdf@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) joined ##slackware. [19:19] we both touch type so if we're both talking on IRC... its not quiet. lol [19:19] our keyboards are quiet [19:20] my wireless is _reasonably_ quiet - and the laptops are all quiet [19:20] wireless keyboard/tracman [19:21] i like the ibm trackpoint keyboards... [19:21] those are nice as well [19:21] yeah, i just wish it came without the trackpad also [19:22] alisonken1home: i consider the trackpoint l33tR than a mouse [19:22] wireless logitec trackman - don't like mice :) [19:22] alisonken1home: i have the marblemouse [19:23] i don't get thumb-based trackballs [19:23] m alps keyswitches [19:23] tried them - don't like them [19:23] s/m/mmmmm/g [19:23] (marbles) [19:23] i'm really liking the new keyboard i got though, logitech illuminated [19:23] I have a Kensigton Orbit and Pro trackballs. Never go back to a mosue [19:24] hackedhead: it's along the lines of the ibm eraser thingie - you don't have to move your hand in order to move the mouse - your thumb moves the mouse and your fingers push the buttons [19:24] Action: ut likes his logitech mice pretty well [19:24] NyteOwl: i had an orbit, i like the marblemouse bc the ball sits a bit less recessed [19:24] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:25] alisonken1home: oh i know that, but i'm not partial to using thumb for directional control, do you use your thumb to drive a trackpoint? (i use index finger...) [19:25] hackedhead: then you have to move your finger to push the buttons :) [19:25] with the marblemouse i use index and middle to drive the ball, thumb and rung finger for buttons [19:26] (with the trackpoint) [19:26] alisonken1home: huh? i use my thumbs for the buttons on a trackpoint keyboard (the one on my thnkpad laptop anyway) [19:27] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-120-21.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:27] Hi [19:27] heya [19:27] hey [19:27] How to automatically launch kdm in slackware ? [19:27] NaCl (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:28] g4tsu: edit /etc/inittab and change "default:3:.." line to "default:4:.." [19:29] but first make sure X works on your system [19:29] thks [19:29] "startx" is a good check to see if GUI works [19:29] It works :) [19:29] have to edit /etc/inittab as root [19:30] id:3:initdefault: <- this line ? [19:30] yes [19:30] g4tsu: yeah [19:30] id:4:initdefault ? [19:30] ok [19:31] hahah i have 12.9 gigs in ebooks alone [19:31] come back later [19:31] thanks for the help [19:31] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-120-21.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: https://linuxspirit.fr [19:32] KaMii: how many "books"? [19:33] oh wait, those arent ebooks, they are just crash logs from micro$oft Windoze [19:33] hahaha [19:33] fun reading. [19:33] ummm idk 4731 books [19:33] huh... i expected that numbre to be higher [19:35] ok - wife is now leaving barstow, so time to go grab some things and meet her in glendale [19:36] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [19:36] KaMii: ok...happy reading..;)...know there are two good ebook readers in slackbuild...calibre and fbreader [19:37] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [19:37] Hi. [19:37] heya [19:38] I hope everything is well? <:) [19:39] SmartOne (~SmartOne@112.135.47.77) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:39] SmartOne2 (~root@112.135.47.77) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:39] goin' good for the early evening here,riza...yourself? [19:40] Doing my English paper.. very tedious. :( [19:40] SmartOne2 (~root@112.135.14.128) joined ##slackware. [19:42] question, does the iomega NAS drives work well under slack? [19:42] Yes. [19:42] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [19:42] riza: what protocol do they use to share over network? [19:43] I thought http. [19:43] Erm, nfs. [19:44] riza: ok...so you use a web browser to configure the thing? [19:44] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:46] nyRednek, yes. [19:47] -_- my monitor still dont get any signal :x [19:48] graphic chip is nvidia 9400gt [19:48] What signal? [19:48] VGA? [19:49] yep [19:49] Do you have two VGA port? [19:50] yep i have 2 graphic cards [19:50] I see, did you try both ports? [19:50] yep [19:50] :D [19:51] annakamilla (~annakamil@hyadesinc/dame/annakamilla) joined ##slackware. [19:51] Hm, did you install the drivers? [19:51] i installed the A part [19:52] only the base slackware system.. [19:52] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:52] Why not full install? [19:53] SmartOne (~SmartOne@112.135.14.128) joined ##slackware. [19:53] i first want to get a signal [19:54] reinstalling so often with all packets? no thanx :> [19:54] mehax: lcd or crt monitor? [19:54] Most likely LCD. [19:55] lcd^^ [19:55] nearly everything works [19:56] i see lilo, i see it booting but when he finished booting it gets a black screen and thats it. [19:56] when i turn numblock on [19:56] MLanden: i can never read ebooks on a computer i put them on my palm centro and read them there [19:56] and change tty with strg+alt+f2 [19:56] the light turns off that means it works [19:56] i only dont get a signal [19:56] KaMii: ok [19:58] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:59] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:00] mehax: even when you change to tty2..etc..? all black? [20:00] motaro (~ricardori@190.166.112.215) left irc: Quit: motaro [20:02] nvision (~nvision@g224251068.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:03] slackmagic (1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:03] kacbep (trhodes@devio.us) joined ##slackware. [20:03] Redness (~redness@c122-108-213-51.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:04] kacbep (trhodes@devio.us) left ##slackware. 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[20:49] Nick change: antiwire_ -> antiwire [20:53] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [20:53] hey guys [20:53] j0z (unix@189.58.7.8.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:53] j0z (unix@189.58.7.8.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [20:53] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [20:53] well I'm 99.9% there with radeon kms everything works perfect and not one error in the logs BUT I just need to figure out to get the FB to kick in as soon as the kernel loads [20:54] compiling in KMS and drm and radeon didn't do it, and just running your regular initrd isn't either BUT I didn't put radeon in it either, not sure how or if it's good to do so, heard some conflicts on that [20:55] what a HUGE difference in speed to really nice, now if I can just get this dang console to boot FB right away... [20:57] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [20:59] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.24.130) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:02] architecture (~weechat@h69-130-190-242.cytnin.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [21:02] _ _ ____ _ _ ____ _ ____ ___ ____ _____ [21:02] _| || |_/ ___|| | / \ / ___| |/ /\ \ / / \ | _ \| ____| [21:02] |_ .. _\___ \| | / _ \| | | ' / \ \ /\ / / _ \ | |_) | _| [21:02] Channel flood from architecture -- kicking [21:02] |_ _|___) | |___ / ___ \ |___| . \ \ V V / ___ \| _ <| |___ [21:02] architecture kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [21:04] heh [21:04] wtf was all that? [21:05] LOL [21:06] at lease it said Slackware hehe [21:06] is that what that was. just a mess here [21:06] on my screen it says slackwa [21:06] Pumpkins1979 (~asdf@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:07] hes probably a ubuntu user and thought he could impress us [21:08] I'm kinda impressed actually. [21:08] Slackware, represent. [21:08] naw mean? [21:10] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Quit: FSF Free Software Foundation [21:10] i heard someone put slackware on his palm centro [21:11] i would do the same, but not sure if it would break the phone part [21:12] I wonder if you could run slackware on something like a HTC Desire ;) [21:12] http://imagebin.org/105728 [21:14] cute chopp [21:14] had to check to see if the moon really is 46% [21:15] Action: ut wants his computer to tell him when the moon is waxing crescent. [21:15] mine does [21:15] conkyforecast [21:16] neonflux (~neonflux@69.198.135.242) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:16] Action: KaMii still wants to know what is it with linux users and moon phases [21:16] its like a religion [21:16] We kill babies? [21:16] uh... linux users are druids? [21:16] need to know when the full moon is [21:16] duh [21:17] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.10.243.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:17] the other light is too harsh and bright. [21:17] i have a window in my house rhys [21:17] and hot. [21:17] gotta plan man [21:18] neonflux (~neonflux@69.198.135.242) joined ##slackware. [21:20] In Nomine Dei Nostri Satanas, Luciferi Excelsi. Ave Carnas. [21:20] :D [21:20] Action: KaMii throws holy water on rhys [21:21] I think the graver sin is the LeVey didn't know shit about latin. Apparently the above is grammatically incorrect. [21:22] meh, who cares about grammar [21:22] Action: ut likes grammar [21:22] true that. hail satan. :P [21:22] never! [21:23] Action: KaMii /dcc send rhys bibletime, sword, cluence [21:23] hahaha [21:23] I love that they call a bible app sword [21:24] crusade [21:24] sbs (~sbs@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [21:24] sword [21:24] may the power of Christ compell you [21:24] hehe [21:24] whatever compell means [21:24] :S [21:24] but i should stop now, before i remember not all geeks (intelligent) are intelligent in all things, thus not all are atheist /b/tards who enjoy the lulz. [21:25] wow... just wow... holier than thou athiests??? [21:25] no, thats just me [21:25] you could be atheist and not a /b/tard. [21:26] imo a true athiest can give a crap about religion and would remain impartial [21:26] indeed, but the spirit of "for the lulz" is something close to holy. like nothing is true, everything is permitted. or quoting philosophy from games. [21:26] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] a true atheist would care about religion to whatever degree they cared about it. it's got its positives and negatives. and there's always the question of what is actually true. [21:28] back to plato [21:28] play-dough :) [21:28] Speaking of which, Inception. Nothing is true. go see that movie. [21:28] wtf! [21:29] Action: ut has no self-control at all [21:29] sbs (~sbs@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:31] godane (~arch@c-75-68-6-221.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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[21:53] Action: Xgates does his first Nasal Rinse LOL [21:53] http://www.neilmed.com/usa/index.php [21:53] ahhh my nose feels better :) [21:54] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-153-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:55] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout ( 0 Seconds ) [21:55] I get free sinus washes when I surf [21:56] eddie_grey (~gabriel@200-101-255-169.bnut3702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:56] eddie_grey (gabriel@200-101-255-169.bnut3702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left ##slackware. [21:56] goj (~goj@p5488FD6B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:56] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:56] haha [21:59] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:59] I've had the ocean flow through my mouth nose and into my ears and out of my tear ducts in my eyes [21:59] fscking wild wipe outs [22:00] out the tear ducts?! holy shit mang [22:00] antiwire: is proving to us that he is infact a man [22:01] I star fished in the barrel [22:02] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:02] i drink wine in cemetaries during a full moon, but only when linux tells me its a full moon, no waxing crescents for me [22:03] use ppm [22:03] pom [22:03] rhys: ever dance with the devil in the pale moon light? [22:03] ./exec -o pom [22:03] do it [22:03] Action: troy read that as porn [22:03] you have to admit, a 'r+n' combo does look a lot like an 'm' :P [22:04] what font and size are you using? [22:04] KaMii: generally I just headbutt a demon until skittles come out... [22:04] koolniczka (~nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [22:04] skittles, hahaha [22:04] dunno - whatever konversation defaults to :P [22:05] Wha? Demons are powered by skittles. everyone knows that. [22:05] i miss skittles, they dont have them in sweden [22:05] probably because skit means shit in Swedish [22:05] so skittles... kinds sounds like little picese of shit [22:05] and who wants to eat that? [22:05] skattles [22:05] shittles [22:05] mmhmmmm [22:05] scattles [22:06] shitlitts [22:06] leprechaun scat [22:06] i want candy now [22:06] I can whip you up a batch [22:07] uhh..... no thanks antiwire [22:08] oh come on my pleasure! [22:08] i would go to 7/11 and buy some, but too lazy to walk there [22:08] *farrt* [22:08] and yes we have seven eleven in Sweden [22:09] not sure why, but we do [22:09] and everyone uses the english words for the numbers [22:09] ... [22:09] its crazieness [22:09] i think this conversation has degenerated from satanism. kudos. [22:11] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:11] seven l'even? [22:11] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [22:11] yeah boi [22:16] Orlov (~richard@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] why is #slackware forwarded to this channel btw? I typed it wrong and just noticed [22:17] evanton (~cbbe@unaffiliated/evanton) joined ##slackware. [22:17] because this is unoffical and there is no offical channel [22:17] ## prefixed channels are unofficial [22:18] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:18] I'm looking for a lightweight mysql GUI frontend. Ideally it would be something similar to sqliteman for sqlite and a slackbuild for it would be available at SBo. Any suggestions? [22:18] ah, so is this the only slackware support channel then .. be it unofficial or otherwise? [22:19] official people hang out here. it's just not formally affiliated with Slackware. [22:19] i c [22:20] it just means the owners slackware do not supervise this channel [22:20] hrm... slackintosh isnt connecting to the net... static and dhcp both dont seem to work [22:20] KaMii: hmmm [22:21] KaMii: it seemed to work fine on my little box [22:21] weird [22:22] mannynix (~mannynix@200.77.64.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:22] this sux [22:22] wireless or ether? [22:26] tecky (~jkroll@cpe-67-248-118-132.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:28] hitest (~chatzilla@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.5/20100624141736] [22:28] tecky (~jkroll@cpe-67-248-118-132.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:28] ether [22:29] Gershwin (~noone@unaffiliated/gershwin) joined ##slackware. [22:29] Gershwin (noone@unaffiliated/gershwin) left ##slackware. [22:29] PeterGriffenBoy (477f1113@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/ip.71.127.17.19) joined ##slackware. [22:30] you don't recieve an ip at all with dhcpcd? [22:31] hba (~hba@189.130.26.195) joined ##slackware. [22:32] spank [22:32] receive* [22:32] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [22:34] I love giving a good whipping [22:35] but reciving one is tiwce as good [22:36] PeterGriffenBoy (477f1113@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/ip.71.127.17.19) left ##slackware. [22:36] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:38] whoa....i forgot about my slackware torrents...looks like i have done a lot of sharing... 164GB of slackware uploaded so far... [22:39] for two DVDs (32/64-bit), i have a share ratio of 43.11 and 35.54 [22:39] so thats like 44 copies? [22:39] yea [22:40] nice [22:40] and they are uploading slow... [22:40] annakamilla (~annakamil@hyadesinc/dame/annakamilla) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:40] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [22:40] SmartOne2 (~root@112.135.14.128) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:42] no, ifconfig only reports loop [22:43] edman007: hopefully the evil guys won't succeed at killing bittorrent [22:43] rhys (~Rhys@c-24-13-104-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:43] evanton, yea...and i want a new release of something so i can legally stress my upload... [22:44] Yandertal (~Yandertal@ip09.rdlbnc.com) left irc: Changing host [22:44] Yandertal (~Yandertal@unaffiliated/yandertal) joined ##slackware. [22:45] i'm not going to touch non-legal content....that would get me a share ratio of 3-4 in 10 minutes...if i forgot about it i would become a top seeder... [22:47] nyRednek: did you do anything special to get ether working? [22:47] KaMii: ifconfig -a ? [22:48] without the ? of course [22:48] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.67.31) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:49] that shows eth0 is on [22:49] maybe my router is blocking [22:49] KaMii: ifconfig eth0 up [22:50] dhcpcd eth0 [22:50] profit? [22:50] skycrash (sky@187.59.42.140) left ##slackware. [22:50] nope router says im good [22:51] huh? [22:51] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [22:52] KaMii: not that i recall [22:52] that didnt work stinky [22:52] where does it fail? does it timeout [22:52] KaMii: maybe try running dhcpcd ? [22:53] KaMii: i've seen that fix issues that otherwise didn't appear solvent [22:53] doesnt seem to work [22:53] unless i did it wrong [22:53] that is why i'm asking where it is failing [22:54] KaMii: does anything look funny if you run ifconfig? [22:54] ifconfig eth0 up gives me that no flags error [22:54] ya, ifconfig by itself only shows the loop [22:54] not eth0 [22:55] KaMii: ok, and you get "no flags" error when you try ifconfig eth0 up? [22:55] yes [22:55] but i have only always seen that on every machine with ifconfig eth0 up [22:56] KaMii: after you run ifconfig eth0 up, do you see eth0 when you run ifconfig again? [22:57] no [22:57] KaMii: which means the card doesn't come up [22:57] what does tail /var/log/messages return KaMii ? [22:57] well thats odd [22:58] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:58] i was going to ask about lsmod | grep net [22:58] nothing about ether [22:58] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [22:58] uh... cant find the pipe key [22:58] haha [22:58] dmesg |grep -i error [22:59] look above \ [22:59] stupid key map [22:59] dmesg |grep -i eth0 [22:59] KaMii: oy gevalt [22:59] Action: ut chuckles [22:59] ut: powermac [22:59] oh. that's too bad. [23:00] found it, alt + shift + 6 [23:00] KaMii: heh [23:00] Action: ut blinks [23:01] no wonder we used to mock macs so much ... [23:01] haha [23:01] i have to custom map that thing [23:02] none of those commands are returning anything [23:02] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [23:02] except that it is telling me that im not using dmesg properly [23:03] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.67.31) joined ##slackware. [23:03] arnis (~arnis@62.122.16.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:04] Action: KaMii maybe thinks i should go for wifi? [23:05] blondais (~agris@mail.biko.lv) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:05] or not [23:05] looks like thats a pain to get working [23:05] arnis (~arnis@62.122.16.30) joined ##slackware. [23:06] KaMii: eth is easier to get up [23:06] ya i think so too [23:06] normally it auto initiates [23:08] maybe something specific to that chip [23:08] probably should use lspci to get the model and googlr it [23:08] haha, would be my luck i got a different chit [23:08] chip [23:09] whats yours say? [23:10] nyRednek's? [23:10] ya [23:11] see if ours are different cards [23:11] KaMii: i don't have the machine up atm [23:11] if they are the same, then my config is wrong [23:12] but heres whats weird... my router says that my mac is connected [23:12] so.... thats working [23:12] evanton (~cbbe@unaffiliated/evanton) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:12] gull (testname@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) joined ##slackware. [23:13] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.67.31) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:13] wait... i have port forwards initiated on that ip... that wouldnt mess with it would it? [23:13] it shouldnt... its for dcc [23:13] lobito (~wolfie@189.143.117.224) joined ##slackware. [23:13] hello [23:13] so they are very high number ports [23:13] I just installed GSB gnome for my slackware 13.1 [23:13] how do I start gnome? startx will start kde and I want gnome [23:13] =) [23:14] lobito: #gsb [23:14] as root? [23:14] ...... [23:14] lobito: as root use xwmconfig [23:15] use #gsb for GSB support please. And read their FAQs next time. [23:15] oki... [23:16] this is just puzzling [23:16] yey! [23:16] thankies chipster =) =) ^^ [23:16] spankies [23:17] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:17] lamefun (~dingbing@92.246.161.75) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:18] how can I make my user a "sudoer" ? [23:19] man sudo [23:19] ok [23:19] lobito (~wolfie@189.143.117.224) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [23:20] nevermind i lied, my router is not picking it up [23:21] forlan (~forlan@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [23:23] whats up [23:23] j0z (unix@201.47.31.48.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:23] j0z (unix@201.47.31.48.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [23:23] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [23:23] sudo make me a sandwich! [23:24] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:25] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [23:25] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.67.31) joined ##slackware. [23:28] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:29] Nick change: Dominian -> BOFH [23:30] Nick change: BOFH -> Dominian [23:31] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [23:33] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [23:33] hey guys [23:33] hi [23:34] hey [23:35] Entulho (~foo@189-72-69-224.fnsce704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:37] Entulho (~foo@189-72-69-224.fnsce704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [23:37] Nick change: Yandertal -> _Lucifer [23:38] qt 4.7 beta2 build/packages/installs/runs nicely... in case anyone cares :) [23:38] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:38] greetings and salutations [23:39] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:39] troy: isnt qt 4.7 already released? [23:41] alan`: what? [23:42] sahko: no - scheduled for august - right around kde 4.5 [23:43] sahko: however, kde 4.5 officially only depends on qt 4.6.3 [23:44] oh right its 4.6.3 not 4.7 [23:44] im waiting for pat to update in order not to download twice but seems that he'll skip the 4.4 updates [23:45] and go for 4.5, its too close now [23:45] hope the new and improved policykit patch goes in along too [23:45] hrm... any thoughts on how to get this network up and running? [23:47] ok, now i'm in the slackware gallery [23:47] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:48] sahko: no idea what goes on in pat's head re: kde software [23:49] troy: id say most depends on what alienBOB does. Pat just got to make up some time to get em in for the most part. at least the idea i got [23:50] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:51] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [23:52] wotcha BP{k} :) [23:53] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [23:56] troy: actually kde 4.4.5 just made it to current [23:56] wotcha andarius :) [23:56] im not sure about the just, but i just noticed [23:57] along with a bunch of other goodies, including polkit. nice [23:57] whoa.. .iwconfig listsl eth0 [23:57] maybe thats me problem [23:57] its thinking eth0 is wifi [23:57] KaMii: possibly [23:58] ok, how do I kill wifi [00:00] --- Sun Jul 18 2010