[00:00] ah i see. what the hell. firefox was set to "Use system proxy settings" ?? [00:00] set it to "No proxy" and it seems much faster now [00:01] yea, it's fine now [00:01] rtcg (justdizgu@mail.richardthecomputerguy.com) left ##slackware. [00:01] um okay. another question. if my internet suddenly dies. other than "rc.inet1 restart" and "ifconfig up/down" is there anything else i can do short of rebooting to try and fix it? [00:02] Depends *why* it died, but usually yes [00:02] what if your phone line gets cut with your dsl [00:02] how are you going to fix that [00:02] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:03] /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart; ifconfig eth0 down; killall dhcpcd; ifconfig eth0 up; dhcpcd eth0 [00:03] Assuming you use dhcpcd [00:03] Time to get some work done. bye everyone. [00:03] Thanks again for the information. [00:03] ajna (ajna@68.235.239.148) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:04] i see T3slider. same thing if it's wireless i guess [00:04] i'm only asking because it does happen from time to time. randomly. [00:04] Well if you use wicd then I can't help you...never used it. But if you just use a startup script (other than rc.wicd...;) ) then you may get some benefit from the above [00:05] nah, don't have wicd [00:05] what does "dhcpcd eth0" do? [00:06] riken_ (~riken@124.106.44.139) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:06] get a new lease? [00:06] Yes [00:06] wicd is in extra/ [00:06] riken_ (~riken@124.106.44.139) joined ##slackware. [00:06] But I've had it not pick up properly until I kill it and restart it [00:06] SiegeX (219@unaffiliated/siegex) joined ##slackware. [00:07] i see [00:08] gotta try that next time it happens. because i was getting lease errors [00:08] cool. thanks for the help guys. [00:10] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-160-2.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:10] brbrbr (~basiley@89.208.116.17) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:10] you should probably dhcpcd -k, then dhcpcd -n [00:11] dhcpcd will not like if you try to get a new lease while it's still running... [00:12] ^^ That sounds better. But if you read up dhcpcd was being killed...just not cleanly [00:12] well, i wasn't, and -k ensures that it's clean ^_^ [00:12] T3slider: are you using the stock Slackware network script to start dhcpcd? [00:12] I'm on a desktop so I haven't changed anything [00:13] So yes [00:13] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt5-port-169.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:13] T3slider: Try increasing the dhcpcd timeout parameter in rc.inet1.conf [00:13] look through the whole rc.inet1.conf file. there are examples of options near the end. [00:14] I don't really have a problem, just when running from the install CD...dhcpcd never picks it up the first time there. So thanks for the help, but I'm sure it would serve crouton better. :D [00:14] Ah I see [00:15] heh... [00:15] Depending on the driver and the hardware, the dhcpcd timeout might be too short or too long. Unfortunately, That setting is not a setting that is an easily chosen value across all systems. [00:16] damn, FF and sqlite is just... painful... [00:16] Plenty of browsers in the sea [00:16] yea, i think i tried that once too antiwire. didn't work still. [00:16] oh well, i'll have to wait till it happens again to try anything out but thanks for the suggestions. [00:17] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:18] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-160-2.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:18] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [00:18] T3slider, this is on my windows box at home... only browser i might use is opera [00:18] Ah [00:18] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:18] I had to use IE7 at work...that was painful [00:18] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [00:18] can i haz chrome? [00:20] i dunno, i let google know too much of my business with my websearches already :P [00:20] https://ssl.scroogle.org/ [00:20] :D [00:21] Too bad it reformats the search results. Otherwise it'd be usable [00:21] hehehe [00:21] have you seen the chinese copy of google? gooja or something like that [00:21] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.210.85) joined ##slackware. [00:21] and who knows who runs that outfit... [00:21] he/she may be a more dangerous harvester [00:22] Action: alreadygone waves [00:23] Never heard of it, but yeah you never really know what these supposedly secure google proxies do with your data [00:23] at least i know google's privacy policy, who knows what mr. scroogles is :/ [00:23] heya,alreadygone...get queue working for you with that plugin for songbird? [00:24] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:24] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [00:24] go [00:24] :) hey MLanden, nope, Audacious looks fine for the moment [00:24] ogle's privacy policy is easy we keep everythig and will sue it as we see fit heh [00:25] s/ogle's/google's/ [00:25] What about http://ixquick.com/ ? I'm sure if any company had a deal with ISPs/police to find illegal activity it would be a site like that. lol [00:25] I was just checking Songbird... I like how it fetches the lyrics and album art... artist info... [00:25] ixquick is actually a decent search engine for it's type [00:25] what's it type NyteOwl? [00:26] cbpye1 (~Administr@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] google ahs so mu interlinked e-cmmerce and ad crap it's becoming useless [00:26] alreadygone, you can unarchive that plugin into a folder and browse at the js files for a bit of info [00:27] Necos it started out more as a meta search engine that the crawler, then flood of links type that google is [00:27] mayday_jay (~mayday_ja@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [00:27] there is a plugin for queing files? I did not know that. Or maybe that plugin is not installed... [00:28] brbrbr (~basiley@89.208.116.17) joined ##slackware. [00:28] alreadygone, http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/96 [00:29] oh cool [00:29] for example I tried searching for a review on an Asus switch the other day - 6 pages later on google I was still wading through links to retailers site. xquick had a link to a review (anadtech) on the first page - much more sueful in some respects [00:29] I'm the opposite. I know how to exploit google's pseudo-regex to find what I want, whereas searches with ixquick are not nearly as flexible [00:31] it's not perfect or good for everytthing but it has it's uses [00:31] te_ (~te@74.113.242.6) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:34] ah, no wonder NyteOwl [00:34] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:45] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-122-218.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:46] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-122-218.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:47] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [00:53] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.210.85) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [00:55] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:58] shitT [00:58] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [00:59] jeev fell down the hole? >.> [01:00] no [01:03] has there been an updated guide to kernel compiling written recently? I've not done this in three or four years and I'm a little overwhelmed here. [01:04] not really - kernel compiling is pretty much the same as it always is, the only difference is some of the options available [01:05] brbrbr (~basiley@89.208.116.17) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:05] cbpye, if you're not sure about it don't do it. [01:05] ken [01:05] what do you think about wd black 64mb cache sata 6gbps drive [01:05] do you have a specific reason to want to home grow a colonel? [01:06] you just have more options now cbpye1 [01:06] jeev: haven't played with them - we usually use fujitsu sas drives and seagates here [01:06] i see [01:07] There were differences between 2.4 and 2.6 but otherwise it's about the same. Alien Bob has a kernel compilation guide if you're looking for it [01:07] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=linux:kernelbuilding [01:08] well, time to get some shuteye... laters folks [01:08] I still roll my own kernels [01:08] later csun [01:08] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Client exiting [01:08] first time it's a pain, after that I just build off of my last .config [01:09] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.199.134) joined ##slackware. [01:09] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:09] I used to but all my hardware is supported by the generic kernel and tbh I never noticed much of a difference even with a lean kernel. And I boot my PC once a day so startup time isn't teriffically important to me [01:12] less code, less vulns and bugs [01:12] neonflux_ (~neonflux@64.134.225.239) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:13] hmmm - last time I rebooted was several weeks ago when I caught up with -current [01:13] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:13] If most of that code isn't loaded in the first place (since we use modularized kernels here)... [01:13] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:14] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.76.141) joined ##slackware. [01:14] last time i rebooted, i could see hale-bopp out my window [01:14] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt5-port-169.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [01:15] pattwo (~pat@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:16] I like to build things so that I don't need an initrd. [01:17] I have an encrypted LVM so I'll need one anyway. lol :D [01:17] since I segrate my data to a completely different partition, I don't feel the need to encrypt my root fs [01:18] (plus that makes it a lot simpler to blast it and reload from scratch if I like) [01:18] Meh I just wanted an encrypted swap [01:18] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:18] not sure if encrypted swap is good idea, but always worth a shot for those paranoid types [01:19] Well that fits me to a tee [01:19] Not like I have anything illegal or suspect on here anyway, but I'm a little nuts [01:21] Action: mishehu makes an anonymous call to the NSA, FBI, CIA, KGB, and Basij to let them know about T3slider [01:21] Oh noes [01:22] they will come for your swap [01:22] lol [01:22] they know where you have been [01:22] My swap doesn't get much use anyway [01:22] they come with liquid nitrogen to put on your ram! [01:22] Oh no my luks encryption key! [01:23] This is precisely why I turn off my computer at night. :D (Well actually it's to save power, but dual purpose I suppose) [01:23] biker (~biker@201.170.189.189.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) joined ##slackware. [01:24] Is it possible to cause the commands in my bash scripts to echo before executing? [01:24] You can add an echo line before the command runs...otherwise I don't really know what you're asking [01:25] #!/bin/bash -x [01:26] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:26] the -x puts bash script in debug mode which also includes leading ++ indicating depth of loops/function calls/calls to other scripts [01:26] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-122-218.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:26] Mel-nix, ^^^^ [01:26] Wow that's nifty [01:27] alisonken1noc: ? [01:27] to echo your script commands, change the first line to "#!/bin/bash -x" [01:28] RJz0r (~ham@216-189-164-080-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:28] alisonken1noc: All right, thanks. I will try that out. Just wandering what you meant by those `^'s: Shrudder? [01:29] http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10012298 looks sexy. 114.99 - 15 rebate, 2% live cashback too if you feel like it. free shipping [01:29] Mel-nix, the "^^^" is irc-speak for "read my last post" when forgetting to specify a nic when you post [01:30] in my example, I posted a response to your question, but forgot to put your nic in the line so you would know it was for you [01:31] rebates suck [01:31] s/rebates/mail-in rebates/g [01:31] Hm that's not even that cheap (at least in my area I can get them cheaper) [01:32] how much T3slider [01:32] that's the 64mb cache 6gbps one [01:32] alisonken1noc: Thanks for the brief explanation. [01:32] Well that particular one is $109.99 Canadian at my local place [01:32] cool [01:33] Mel-nix, np [01:33] RaNdY (randy@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) left irc: Changing host [01:33] RaNdY (randy@shellium/member/randy) joined ##slackware. [01:33] alisonken1noc: Can I find the description of the `-x' switch to bash(1) in the manual? [01:36] "help set" is the quickest explanation I see [01:37] Mel-nix, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-13.html [01:37] man bash | less -p 'After\ expanding\ each\ simple\ command' #also [01:38] what's the #also for [01:39] so you can fudge a copy-paste more easily :) [01:40] Mel-nix, the whole tldp bash programming intro set is interesting as well, not just that chapter [01:40] that was very kind of you :)_ [01:41] trhodes: Thanks, that was quick, informative, and up-to-the-point information. [01:41] you're welcome [01:41] RJz0r (~ham@216-189-164-080-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) joined ##slackware. [01:42] trhodes, the single quotes will handle our spaces, though :) in case you don't want all the \ [01:42] s/our/your [01:42] even in less ? [01:42] hmm ok [01:42] alisonken1noc: Thanks for the link, and suggestion. [01:42] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:42] yaw [01:42] nice :) [01:42] hmm - that command didn't work for me: "Pattern not found" [01:43] trhodes, ^^ [01:43] Hi [01:43] Ho [01:43] The information in the manual is not very clear and concise though, especially for beginners/newbies. [01:43] i really liked the "#also" touch btw, thoughtful & clever. [01:44] im having problems, I can't write things on my external HD and on my windows partition =/ [01:44] worked for me alisonken1noc, maybe yo've got an old man page [01:44] jeev: slackware64-current [01:44] i bet you're mounting with the kernel ntfs driver which doesn't have write capability compiled in your case [01:44] maybe the bash 4 page is different [01:44] I can browse the files and I can copy from them, but I cant copy/write to them =/ [01:44] if so, my recommendation is use ntfs-3g [01:45] or new :) [01:45] any idea? :) [01:45] biker: What is your partition type? [01:45] Mel-nix, both my external HD and the windows partition are NTFS [01:45] my /home and / are reiserfs [01:46] riken_ (~riken@124.106.44.139) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [01:46] mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/xxx /path/to/mountpoint [01:48] keanne (~riken@124.106.44.139) joined ##slackware. [01:49] T3slider, yea with that command I could write! :) [01:49] :) [01:50] T3slider, but why if I mounted GUI-form I cant write? =/ [01:50] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [01:50] By default it's using mount.ntfs instead of mount.ntfs-3g (or maybe your GUI program is mounting it read-only on purpose) [01:51] What app are you using? Is this through KDE or something? [01:51] T3slider, kde [01:51] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:52] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [01:52] I'm of no help there, unfortunately. The easiest solution is to add an fstab entry for both drives but that is by no means universal [01:53] alisonken1noc: man bash | less -p 'Print a trace of simple commands' # sure enough, the docs are different between versions of bash [01:53] T3slider, well its ok, thank you!: ) [01:54] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.199.134) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:55] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:55] trhodes: thought there might be some changes :) [01:56] I think ill compile kde 4.3 or 4.4 [01:58] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [02:01] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [02:01] alisonken1noc: I changed my first line in the bash script to "#!/bin/sh -x", and executed. It worked beautifully, just as I expected it to. Thank you once again. This same behaviour is exhibitted by makefiles ritght? [02:01] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.59.137) joined ##slackware. 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[05:20] what linux tool besides netwatch can i use to see low-level packets in realtime? [05:20] wireshark [05:20] tcpdump [05:21] dump tyvm [05:22] damn, my modem is being slammed by who-has queries [05:23] well, the kernel actually [05:26] SunTzu: how did you notice? performance? [05:26] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:27] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-216-249.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:28] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. [05:28] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:33] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.76.24) joined ##slackware. [05:34] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.15.207) joined ##slackware. [05:35] Coke: thanks for finding an installer bug (says alienBOB) :) [05:35] fraktil (fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [05:36] trhodes: another one? [05:36] I'll gladly offer my services to test any fixes when ever they are available. [05:37] same one I believe :) [05:37] the keymap problem you had [05:37] I'm still eager to get going with my Slack server installs [05:37] yep - same one [05:39] Coke: it was the same bu ;-) [05:40] alienBo [05:40] alienBOB, I remember BZ, but not bu :) [05:40] or tango uniform for an alternate [05:41] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:44] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.15.207) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:46] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:52] Typos caused by speed and not enough time alisonken1noc [05:52] alienBOB, or typo's cause you've got the watch at the same time [05:52] :) [05:54] and someone else who almost shadows _your_ nick [05:54] yeah, what's with the Blurb guy? [05:56] I'm sitting down, trying to make my own lightweight Slack USB image now [05:56] installer? [05:56] zux1wrk: none [05:56] zux1wrk: it will just install all the packages I supply with it [05:57] (which will be a minimum set required to get a slack booted and running from disk) [05:57] In any case, I'm wondering, is it TOO prudent to go with ext2 these days? [05:57] if you are talking about that 4G flash, then i would probably get all the packages there [05:57] Coke, i think yes [05:57] zux1wrk: the point is that you can download around 50M [05:57] Morn [05:57] Coke: something to think about also is using tagfiles [05:57] zux1wrk: yeah, ok, prolly ext3 [05:58] alisonken1noc: please tell me more [05:58] yet-again-ganesh (~ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:58] I was just thinking of making a small, bootable USB disk using Slack and add the minimum required packages to actually install and boot from disk [05:58] also i do use ext2 on my /boot partition [05:58] For anyone following.. i can manually load and read from the tape using mt and mtx... so im down to a netbackup specific problem it seems :( [05:58] Coke, http://slackbook.org/html/package-management-making-tags-and-tagfiles.html#AEN6621 [05:58] don't really know why [05:58] zux1wrk: no, you're right, I'll go with ext3 [05:58] Coke, it's what the installer uses as well, I believe [05:59] even though the usb stick doesn't really need journaling [05:59] alisonken1noc: lemme read up on that [05:59] Coke, on a usb stick, i would probably use fat anyway [05:59] a have tried using ext* [05:59] alisonken1noc: that actually looks easy [05:59] zux1wrk: no, how can you boot a linux sysstem using a fat root? [06:00] but always end up that i need to put the stick into a windows host somewhere [06:00] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:00] zux1wrk: this is for booting a box with no OS [06:00] you are talking about an installer on usb, not an installed OS on usb, right? [06:00] zux1wrk: it will be both [06:00] and it's not an installer. [06:01] installed OS on usb? [06:01] per say. it won't have any options, it will only give you a prompt to do the fdisk thing and then install all packages. [06:01] zux1wrk: it's a bootstrap system [06:01] which you can use to boot from your disk and continue with your slack install there [06:01] ganeshix_back (~ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:01] It's a great way to get new users interrested too, because they dont need the 3.8G ISO to just try out a bit [06:02] ok, then i really have no idea what would be the best filesystem for you [06:02] zux1wrk: ext2 or ext3 [06:02] but I'm guessing that ext2 isn't maintained anymroe? [06:02] (or does ext2 and ext3 still use the same source base?) [06:02] why would it? [06:02] ext3 is like ext2 with journaling [06:02] now that ext4 mounts ext2/3... [06:03] Zordrak, i've been trying to ask you for a couple of days now [06:03] i read your blog [06:03] Action: Coke is going schizophrenic from answering work mail and chatting about 4 different subjects at once [06:03] and you say in some places that everyone should compile their own kernel [06:04] but i didn't find anywhere the arguments to that [06:04] just a guide to compile kernel [06:04] its all opinion [06:04] search it for initrd [06:04] thatll prolly do it [06:05] so you only compile your own kernel so you wont have to do initrd? [06:05] argh, what is the mount option to make a system rw for all users? [06:05] eem [06:05] no.. [06:06] wertik (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:06] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [06:06] its primarily about customisation [06:06] Coke, the only caveat I can think of is the last line in the link above where the tagfile is located in the same location as the packages [06:06] like cpu optimization and stuff? [06:06] by making a custom kernel you remove an entire complexity step from the boot process and at the same time take out any wasted code you dont need [06:07] the guide just doesnt go through the removal process.. just the re-compile withoutn initrd, as its for beginners [06:07] Coke, I believe it's a matter of the owner/group of the directory on the mount point [06:08] there are times an initrd is nsecessary.. ie in a big infrastructure where you dont have time to recompile for a security update, or where you truly need it due to something that needs to not be in-kernel but is needed for boot (lvm+luks for example) [06:09] I guess the way id put it is: if you cant tell me whyyou *need* an initrd, why are you using one [06:09] ok, so on my luks enabled laptop i will always need an initrd, i have already understood that [06:10] cpu optimiation is an added bonus, yes [06:14] alisonken1noc: yeah, I wanted more like "no security checks at all" [06:15] there is an option [06:15] i'll look [06:16] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:17] does the kernels/bzImage contain a rootfs? [06:18] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) left irc: Ping timeout: 624 seconds [06:23] \o/ [06:24] AMD has released patches to support some of their chipsets with coreboot, including my motherboard's! [06:24] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.47.59) joined ##slackware. [06:25] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-39.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [06:25] press release? [06:25] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-165.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:25] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODA2Nw , see link and corresponding discussion [06:28] bah [06:29] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.211.165) joined ##slackware. [06:30] http://www.coreboot.org/News#2010.2F03.2F15_AMD_RS780_and_SB700_now_supported too [06:32] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-165.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:32] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:34] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-105.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:38] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:42] what is the right parameter to change the root device in lilo prompt? [06:43] at the prompt: lilo: root= [06:43] ex: lilo: huge root=/dev/sda3 [06:43] yet-again-ganesh (~ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:43] ex: lilo: huge root=/dev/sda3 rw [06:43] was there not a ro? [06:43] ok [06:43] thanks [06:43] sorry - ro to start [06:43] so it can check the drive [06:44] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:44] hmm [06:44] lilo: huge root=/dev/sda3 ro [06:44] didn't boot, still trying to mount sdb1 [06:44] i did a Linux root=/dev/sda1 ro [06:45] keep in mind after booting, it will still follow /etc/fstab for mounting [06:46] ok, that was probably the problem [06:47] im loving the guide te teensy elf executables (/.) [06:47] so whatever the root= ... /etc/fstab file shows will be mounted [06:47] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:48] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [06:49] putting a hello worlds ENTIRE code into the ELF header.. [06:51] alisonken1noc, how would you go about changing the fstab without booting another cd or usb? [06:51] ahh to hell with it, i'll just switch the sata cables and the drive will be sdb again.... [06:53] boot from install cd, mount the drive manually and edit the mounted etc/fstab [06:53] unless you have another partition that's used for backup/boot issues [06:53] that involves booting from other media, which involves me walking to another building [06:54] i had too much bear last night to be able to do that... [06:54] so, switching the sata cables is easier [06:54] too much bear huh :) [06:55] had a bear testing party last night [06:55] beer [06:55] hah [06:55] damn [06:56] crouton (1000@bas1-toronto10-1279398219.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:56] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [06:56] i always make that mistake [06:57] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [06:57] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-105.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [06:59] SETKEH (~setkeh@114.74.89.215) joined ##slackware. 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[07:06] alicephilippa (~alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:07] im am so thinking about swapping out the distributed versions of true and false with this shit [07:07] must be good. i mean shit [07:09] slava_dp, all done, i just reconnected the cables to make the drive become sdb like it was when installed [07:10] OLD: wc -c /usr/bin/false [07:11] 26712 /usr/bin/false [07:11] NEW: wc -c ./false [07:11] 45 ./false [07:12] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) joined ##slackware. [07:13] tapp (~tapp@pD9E22E06.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:14] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:15] Crimius (~crimius@209-254-21-194.ip.mcleodusa.net) joined ##slackware. [07:15] Crimius (crimius@209-254-21-194.ip.mcleodusa.net) left ##slackware. [07:16] ok those how are using Open Office Calc , type the following =Game("StarWars") in the formula bar. 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[09:00] paissad: yes [09:00] i read /etc/DIR_COLORS & /etc/profiled.d/coreutils**** & i see that .txz has the same color as .tgz [09:00] but my txz is never colored [09:00] weird [09:01] its dircolors that should have it [09:01] yes, i know [09:02] mine doesn't have it [09:02] have you added it to yours? [09:02] set | grep ^LS_COLORS [09:02] see what .txz and .tgz are set to [09:04] set | grep -i ^ls_colors | tr ':' '\n' | egrep "txz|tgz" [09:04] *.tgz=01;31 [09:04] no txz ! [09:04] mystery solved [09:04] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:05] Skywise, how did you ? [09:05] i just looked [09:05] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [09:07] egrep "txz|tgz" /etc/DIR_COLORS [09:07] .tgz 01;31 [09:07] .txz 01;31 [09:08] so i should have the same colors for both ^^ [09:08] but i don't ! [09:08] paissad: that's what should be there, but ls looks at LS_COLORS in env (set command) for actual colors [09:08] did you try logging out/in and see if it reset? [09:08] if you changed it, you have to login again for it to take effect [09:09] i did change nothing ! ... it's default set [09:09] settings [09:09] i logged like that many times & i never had the color for txz, ... no need to login again then [09:10] i see no explanations ^^ [09:11] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [09:11] what shell are you using? [09:11] bash, zsh, ash, csh, ... ? [09:11] bash [09:12] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:12] $TERM -> xterm [09:12] hmm - I use kde konsole myself and it works for me [09:13] anyway - time to head home [09:13] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:13] fixed :D [09:13] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [09:14] the matter was in bashrc, actually there was another command dircolors -b in it ! [09:14] i just removed it [09:15] elliot98 (~elliot@109.64.3.38) joined ##slackware. [09:15] elliot98 (~elliot@109.64.3.38) left irc: Changing host [09:15] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) joined ##slackware. [09:17] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:18] aperturefever (~abell@athedsl-200070.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:19] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-23-253.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [09:19] i installed alienBOB's 32bit compat libs for my 64bit slackware and then downloaded GoogleEarth and installed it. when i tried to run, i got a segmentation fault error. I fixed it with this command ln -s /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1 but now i get this error: http://pastebin.org/116259 [09:20] Azeotrope: did you build GoogleEarth or just downloaded? [09:21] metrofox: i just downloaded the .bin file [09:21] dErFz (~derf@188.72.255.195) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:21] Azeotrope: use this slackbuild [09:21] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/GoogleEarth/ [09:21] build GoogleEarth [09:22] terry_ (~terry@74.113.242.6) joined ##slackware. [09:22] metrofox: ok [09:22] thanks [09:23] linukiss (~linukiss@20158193153.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:26] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-22-194.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:27] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-23-229.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:28] Jiraia (~Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::572f) joined ##slackware. [09:28] metrofox: same error for Google Earth with the slackbuild install. [09:32] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-23-229.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:32] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-25-13.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:32] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [09:33] Azeotrope: can't install the 32bit driver for nvidia? how did you install the nvidia driver? [09:33] it's not an additional driver, iirc during the installation of the 64bit driver, it'll ask you if you want to install the 32bit libs too but that may not be valid for the slackbuild [09:34] Rossonero (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:35] Rossonero (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [09:36] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [09:36] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [09:37] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:38] Hoogin (hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left ##slackware. [09:40] Camarade_Tux: i installed them from the website [09:41] in any case, you need to remove the symbolic link you made, and try reinstalling the drivers [09:43] Nick change: wertik_ -> wertik_rus [09:45] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [09:47] hasansahin (~c3218136@gateway/web/freenode/x-gqaypmgqphnrnmts) joined ##slackware. [09:47] hi all [09:47] anyone else on intel + mesa 7.8 + kde by chance? [09:50] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Quit: http://clicanimaux.com svp cliquez sur le bouton au millieu de la page pour nourir un animal abandonné, please click on the button and feed a poor and forseken animal for free ! http://clicanimaux.com [09:53] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [09:55] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. 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[10:02] let me try writing it down [10:02] azeotrope: the drivers want gcc 4.1 and you probably have 4.3 [10:02] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [10:03] dsockwell: hmmmm, it only wants you to use the version of gcc you used to build the kernel [10:03] and it's only a warning you can ignore [10:03] thought i was in #debian [10:03] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-25-13.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:04] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-27-62.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:06] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:07] dsockwell: heheh :P [10:08] raendeer (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:08] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [10:08] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210157052.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:08] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210157052.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Changing host [10:08] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:08] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-27-106.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:09] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:09] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-27-62.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:09] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [10:14] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [10:14] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:14] unable to load kernel module nvidia.so [10:14] Gary (gary@freenode/staff/colchester-lug.gary) left ##slackware. [10:15] this is the error i get when trying to install latest nvidia drivers for my card. [10:15] Azeotrope: using what kernel? [10:15] dErFz (~derf@188.72.255.195) joined ##slackware. [10:16] thumbs: 2.6.29.6 SMP #3 [10:16] modprobe nvidia shows nothing [10:17] Azeotrope: did you use the slackbuild? [10:17] clean install or modified/recompiled? [10:17] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-27-106.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:17] i don't think you can load the binary if theres kernel support for nvidia fb compiled in [10:17] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-24-220.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:18] zux1wrk: clean, default install [10:18] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:18] it should not be there if it's a clean install [10:18] so slackbuild or did you download the source yourself? [10:19] i downloaded them from nvidia's website [10:19] source i guess... a .run file [10:19] try the slackbuild [10:20] or did you really need a newer version from their site? [10:20] i need it in order to install the 32bit compat libs. i don't remember if i installed them [10:21] also, i hope a newer version will make google earth work [10:21] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-183-108.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:21] so you do have a working slackbuild version? [10:21] that works, but google earth doesn't ? [10:22] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:23] Action: slava_dp prefers not using 32 bit software on his 64 bit -current installation. 64 bits are nice. [10:23] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [10:23] yep. and Camarade_Tux told me to install those 32bit libs for nvidia [10:24] i have alienBOB's 32bit compat libs installed and working [10:25] Action: vastina thinks that's great slava_dp, but how does it help Azeotrope? [10:25] [10:25] Action: slava_dp thinks it does not help Azeotrope in any way :( [10:26] :) [10:27] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:27] at least i learned how to use runlevels [10:28] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:29] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-52.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [10:30] well yeah, there are still situations where it's better or easier to just stick with 32bit OS [10:30] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Quit: Fui embora [10:30] seems most reasons are because of proprietary applications [10:31] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Quit: d ä_å b [10:31] esp expensive ones [10:31] i tend to stick to 32 bit and leave the 64 bit to those who will mature the code to my palate, even if i have a 64 bit processor [10:31] makes life quite a bit easier [10:31] i use 32 for my desktop that get-s all kind of bizarre crap run on it and i use 64 for servers [10:33] I avoid the crap and use 64bit [10:33] i found a workaround: Merkaartor [10:34] at this point, software that doesn't work on 64bit is almost guaranteed to never be ported [10:34] and yes, marble (kde) could be another alternative [10:35] marble doen't have maps or sattelite imagery [10:37] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [10:40] marble has maps [10:40] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:41] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [10:41] pprkut: where? [10:41] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:42] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:42] Azeotrope: Map View -> OpenStreetMap [10:42] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] also Map View -> Satelite View [10:45] although, don't know if it's my settings or not, the Satellite View is not as detailed as google maps [10:45] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [10:46] davi (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [10:46] that's because google uses it's own licensed image data, and marble uses free image data, I think [10:48] Anyone else having issues with constantly being logged out of their LQ session recently? Or is it just me? [10:49] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:49] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-24-220.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:49] http://loggedoutoflqforeveryoneorjustme.com [10:49] ? :D [10:49] yeah.. thatd be an interesting site [10:50] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-25-122.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:51] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:51] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-23-253.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [10:52] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:00] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-25-122.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:01] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [11:01] I am running a self-compiled linux 2.6.33.1 right now, and only have kernel-headers 2.6.33 x86 installed from the install DVD [11:01] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-27-163.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:01] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:01] anybody need an enterprise storage solution? free. http://blacksburg.craigslist.org/zip/1647959431.html [11:01] all other "kernel" packages are removed [11:03] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:03] allend (~allend@CPE-124-176-180-176.lns3.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [11:04] free delivery to the UK too? [11:04] fooy: read about your issue and get a required patch here: http://skalkoto.blogspot.com/2010/03/nvidia-and-slackware-current.html [11:04] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:05] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:06] Asido (~asido@lan-84-240-5-116.vln.skynet.lt) joined ##slackware. [11:07] anyone could suggest me a software for resizing the HDD partitions without deleting them? [11:07] ananke: lol just looked at the ad. I spent about as much as it woud cost to rehouse that on my 3tb raid61 :) [11:08] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [11:08] le_prof (~le_prof@dslc54.ody.ca) joined ##slackware. [11:09] Asido: prepare full backup first [11:09] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:09] Zordrak: it actually weighs less than my shark [11:09] define(shark); [11:10] ibm ess [11:10] hasansahin (~c3218136@gateway/web/freenode/x-gqaypmgqphnrnmts) left irc: Quit: Page closed [11:10] orite [11:10] fnuff [11:10] le_prof (~le_prof@dslc54.ody.ca) left irc: Client Quit [11:10] 2105-e20 to be specific [11:11] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [11:12] tapp (~tapp@pD9E22E06.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [11:12] user3476349 (~user99978@adsl-76-235-61-134.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:12] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:12] nice.. old and huge.. but nice [11:13] nader (~nader___@84.241.19.230) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [11:14] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.75.116) joined ##slackware. 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[11:26] alienBOB: thanks a lot... the install appeared to work and now I'm about to try starting X [11:27] ALVAN (~galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [11:27] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-24-180.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:29] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-26-169.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:39] allend (~allend@CPE-124-176-180-176.lns3.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:40] While I'm running a backup befgore hand just in case.. has anyone had any issues to date with online shrinking of ext4 with resize2fs? [11:42] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [11:43] phrags (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [11:43] hi guys [11:44] having trouble installing virtualbox, both kernel module and ose have build and installed without errors, but i can't find the binary anywhere [11:44] as far as i know, virtualbox ose isn't fully functioning. it's more of a development resource. [11:44] ##slackware: mode change '+o phrag' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [11:45] i haven't tried it under slackware though [11:45] ##slackware: mode change '+o phrags' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [11:45] ##slackware: mode change '+o slackboy' by phrags!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [11:45] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrags!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [11:45] ose is fine and fully functional [11:45] just doesnt have usb support [11:45] yeh, i know i'm running it at home... just wondering what could have went wrong [11:45] phrags: /usr/bin/VirtualBox? [11:46] phrags: I've had that problem before. I can't for the life of me remember how I fixed it... [11:46] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:46] ferdna (~ferdna@adsl-99-39-221-249.dsl.elpstx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:46] damn that capitalisation! =P [11:46] thankyou Zordrak, jkwood... i was looking for v* =P [11:46] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrags' by phrags!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [11:47] Ah, hopefully that's it. [11:47] Otherwise, I had to either rebuild it or reisntall it... wish I'd taken notes. [11:47] could be related to groups, too [11:47] phrags: yeah its a twat [11:48] yeh, will have to re-log actually to recognise my new group addition [11:48] but you of course used the slackbuild ;) [11:48] augusto (~augusto@189-041-50-229.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Quit: Saindo [11:48] thrice`: yes i did =) [11:48] thanks guys... -current on my work machine now =) [11:48] Ah, right, groups. That was the problem. [11:49] with full lvm/luks, and about to upgrade to kde 4.4.1 once i get vbox working =) [11:50] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:51] luvrofcorn (~189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-dfrkjsrddeokyucl) joined ##slackware. [11:53] phrags:are you running 2.6.33? [11:54] can someone suggest a Color LaserJet w/ FlatBed scanner that I won't have too many issues with configuration and network printing? [11:57] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:58] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Quit: Necrosporus [11:59] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:01] _slax0r_ (fire@2001:15c0:66ca::514) joined ##slackware. [12:01] elliot98 (~elliot@109.64.3.38) joined ##slackware. [12:02] elliot98 (~elliot@109.64.3.38) left irc: Changing host [12:02] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) joined ##slackware. [12:02] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [12:03] i only work with Xerox WorkCentre MFDs with PostScript boards... so couldnt say :) [12:03] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:04] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:04] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.75.116) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:05] phrags: wrt group, yeah WTH is up with that? i really wish group uphates could show withot an X restart [12:05] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:05] sp (sp@xmission.xmission.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:06] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:06] Zordrak: it's not the X restart, it's logging out and in again that's necessary ;) [12:09] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) joined ##slackware. [12:09] pprkut: yeh that.. stull [12:09] *still [12:09] hello. Here's a not rhetorical question -- why is sound so hard in slackware ? ... hard as in not easy to make work. [12:09] "in middle of very difficult task with windows opeon everywhere, SHIT i dont have perms for that" --> shuts down everthing, logs out, logs in etc [12:10] BrokenCog: heres a non rhetorical answer.. its not. [12:10] Zordrak: I think polkit might help there [12:10] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:10] pprkut: ah.. very possibly [12:10] If I understood somewhat correctly what it does [12:10] not that that helps me any :/ [12:11] Broken, some kinds of sound are harder to set up that others, not a slackware specific thing though [12:11] Zordrak: it wouldn't seem to be on the phase of it ... but when I turn on my computer -- 1 out of 3 times, no sound. [12:11] *face [12:11] mancha: on the same machine, Ubuntu has never had a problem. [12:11] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:12] mancha: which is why I lean towardsthe issue laying within Slackware. [12:12] your question is too vague to seriously consider addressing it [12:12] BrokenCog, did you save your mixer settings? [12:12] mancha: just as well it was rhetorical :) [12:12] the init scripts restore what you have saved to alsa [12:12] if you are able to provide context, intelligent details, and so forth then i'll consider helping [12:13] lol. yes, i know. it is vague ... that's partly of why it's so vexing to solve. [12:13] well you can start with type of hardware, what configuration you've already done, lspci output, etc etc [12:13] i've used alsactl / mixer each time -- this time i've even shut the machine power-off thinking it would clear some internal hardware. [12:13] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:13] do you save one you do the alsactl stuff? [12:13] "clear some internal hardware?" [12:14] the only difference from the previous startup when it was working was that i tried booting a new kernel - now sound doesn't seem to want to work in the default kernel. [12:14] Action: Zordrak has been on hold with symatec support for so long he's lost touch with reality.. [12:14] HDA Intel - it's installed on a Dell 1737 studio ... using the snd_hda_intel module. [12:15] Broken, so it sounds like the kernel is the issue, is the newer "nonworking" kernel compiled with all the needed sound support? [12:15] Zordrak: and when you hear a distant voice on the horizon ... they'll disconnect. [12:15] BrokenCog: Have you unmuted all the channels in alsamixer? KDE doesn't catch that they all exist. [12:15] hoping not since this is enterprise support not cockmonkey support [12:15] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:15] i booted the new kernel a couple of times sound worked fine. then nothing. now going back to the slack32 default kernel, can't get sound. [12:15] jkwood: yes. [12:15] Action: jkwood has an Intel sound card [12:16] i have a feeling kmixer and alsamixer don't play well together. [12:16] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [12:16] why wouldn't they? [12:16] hmm - works for me on my x86_64 and x85 [12:16] your problem is you're using Slack32 which is a future release from 2078. In the future sound is no longer transmitted over the airwaves but via the telepathy.ko module [12:16] x86 [12:16] so, i shut kmixer, ran through alsaconf, checked alsamixer, used alsactl ... no go. previously i used .. [12:17] which specific command with alsactl [12:17] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:17] mancha: ahhhh. damn. my futureporter is broken also. [12:17] Axius (~hi@109.97.59.198) joined ##slackware. [12:17] jkwood: one sec ... [12:18] guax (~guax@189.4.99.206) joined ##slackware. [12:18] guax (~guax@189.4.99.206) left irc: Changing host [12:18] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [12:18] BrokenCog: are you by chance using two soundcards? [12:19] just the one built in the laptop.... [12:19] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:19] what is the specific "alsactl" command you are using ? [12:20] hehehe [12:20] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [12:20] tapp (~tapp@pD9E22E06.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:21] thrice: store ? [12:22] jkwood: so, in alsamixer all the playback items are up an unmuted -- i have noticed horrible feedback if the Analogue Loopback 1 2 3 items aren't matched properly. [12:23] BrokenCog: what is the exact problem. what exactly is "not working"? [12:23] jkwood: but i only guess at what properly means until I don't hear the feedback. [12:23] this time 'round i can't even get feedback. [12:23] Analogue Loopback takes your microphone input and feeds it directly to the speakers, so yeah, leave those muted unless you have a very good reason. [12:23] there is no sound. The mic might work, but I can't confirm that without sound. [12:24] Axius (~hi@109.97.59.198) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:24] jkwood: the trick was muting the correct one of the three -- muting all would block sound. [12:24] BrokenCog: What's the output of lsmod | grep snd? [12:25] BrokenCog: where do you have no sound? console, X? At which port, speakers or line or both? [12:25] jkwood: hold on ... [12:26] correct. console, X. but, the headphone out has sound. [12:26] so your speakers are muted? [12:26] no. they aren't in any mixer I can open and look at. [12:27] BrokenCog: do you have a hardware switch for the speakers? [12:27] no. [12:27] not that i've ever seen. [12:28] jkwood: http://pastebin.org/116378 [12:28] BrokenCog: why dont you try alsamixer -V All and play with the muted channels [12:28] BrokenCog: in kde4, it occasionally hides certain volume levels. [12:28] zaltekk (~zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [12:29] I always use All in alsamixer ... usually by Tab Tab not -v ... but whatever. same thing. [12:29] BrokenCog: do you have a mute indicator on your notebook somewhere? (hardware) [12:30] Well, everything is present and accounted for. [12:31] there's no indicator unless kmix is up and running -- then it gives the graphic indicator of whether the mute is on. my feeling is that it's stuck on mute, even though i've re-run alsaconf and such. [12:31] kde4 occasionally hides volume levels? would the kde devs call that a feature or a bug? [12:32] I take back what I send about sound in the headphones -- the only sound is from the Mic -- aplay does not produce any sound in the headphone. [12:32] zaltekk` (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [12:32] but, from the built in speakers, i don't hear themicrophone. [12:32] only in the headphones. [12:32] zaltekk (~zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:32] Nick change: zaltekk` -> zaltekk [12:33] it's like there is a BIOS mute or some hardware switch which is not being toggled ... it's very infuriating. [12:33] BRB - goignto reboot. [12:34] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:34] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-26-169.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:35] subvhome (~substance@1-18-132-169.idt.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:35] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-28-68.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:35] http://www.theonion.com/content/news/google_responds_to_privacy [12:35] funiest article ever [12:35] subvhome (~substance@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [12:36] wuttup people [12:36] i need help choosing a good wikiwiki. i have a tree of directories that I want to run under one wiki script. [12:36] Greek (~Greek@cust-253-231.on4.ontelecoms.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:36] hello guys!! [12:36] Nick change: Greek -> Guest79844 [12:37] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) joined ##slackware. [12:37] I ve just install slackware 13 and i have installed nvidia drivers, but i cant setup the resolution [12:37] where I have to go to change it? [12:37] nvidia-settings [12:37] I've been having a problem with slackware. Seems like this distribution, which rocks btw, always has some sort of delays when first resolving a host. Web pages load slow, especially where there are a lot of ads to load. Downloading from usenet has a huge delay as i wait for all the connections to resolve. [12:38] well, thanks for letting me vent. I still haven't fixed the problem, but i'm blinded to options right now so i'm not going to look at the sound issue any more. [12:38] i have tried opendns... same results. windows.. ubuntu... slax.. seem not be affected [12:39] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [12:39] there are only 2 options for resolutions 640x480 and 320x240...omg? [12:39] subvhome: the issue is with dns? [12:39] zaltekk: no idea.. could be route [12:39] zaltekk: but im not well experienced in that. [12:39] subvhome: are you using dhcp? [12:40] zaltekk: yes.. from a belkin router... i thought it was the device.. but when i attach windows to my network it flies. [12:41] do I have to edit xorg.conf file? [12:41] Guest79844: the binary nvidia drivers? did you let it modify your xorg.conf to load the nvidia driver? [12:42] i have install binary nvidia drivers too! i have now open the xorg.conf file [12:42] Guest79844: you downloaded the bundled nvidia file from the website and installed it? then all you have to do is run nvidia-settings [12:42] subvhome: can you pastebin your hosts, host.conf, and resolv.conf from /etc? [12:42] __marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [12:42] i have now opened and nvidia settings but nothing it has only 2 resolutions 640x480 and 320x240 [12:43] subvhome: i'd assume the defaults(although dhcp would probably modify resolv.conf) would work fine, but i can see if i notice anything wrong [12:43] i dont what happened [12:43] the resolution its too low i cant work... [12:43] Guest79844: when you start X, do you get a splash screen that says nvidia? [12:43] now [12:43] no* [12:43] i use also wicd [12:44] Nick change: __marc` -> _marc` [12:44] its just strange... nobody has this issue? delays during resolving hostnames? [12:44] subvhome: wireless? [12:44] i am running blackbox [12:44] nope [12:44] subvhome: maybe you could paste those files [12:44] resolv.conf and nsswitch.conf? [12:45] Guest79844, you might need to set the Refresh too in nvidia-settings as Auto is not always ok [12:45] Guest79844: if you don't have that splash screen when you start x, then the nvidia driver probably isn't running [12:45] sure.. [12:45] subvhome: resolv.conf, hosts, host.conf... [12:45] subvhome: if they are all stock, resolv.conf is probably the only one that would matter [12:46] how I will make nvidia drivers to run with the startup [12:46] though you must see the Nvidia logo when you startx [12:46] yeah [12:46] but how I can make nvidia drivers run on the startup? [12:47] DURgod (~DURgod@24-236-174-174.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:47] Guest79844: run nvidia-xconfig as root [12:47] http://pastebin.com/ws1vprPD [12:47] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:47] Guest79844: then restart X. you should see the nvidia splash screen [12:48] subvhome: remove search Belkin for one [12:48] when you say restart you mean to exit from x windows and retype againa start x [12:48] Guest79844: yes. [12:49] no nvidia logo again the same [12:49] subvhome: also, part of the problem could be from using the route as a dns server(maybe it caches, but it could be slow). try with just the last two nameserver lines [12:49] and the same resolution (640x480) again... [12:50] Guest79844: what was the output from nvidia-xconfig? [12:50] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:50] using x configuration file : blah blah [12:50] backed up fiule blah blah and new x configuration file written to .... [12:50] Guest79844: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf? [12:51] Guest79844, lsmod |grep nvidia what says ? [12:51] MReimer (~chatzilla@p4FD4A468.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [12:52] nvidia 4703828 16 [12:52] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:52] and agpgart 29256 2 nvidia, intel_agp [12:52] subvhome: any luck with the modified /etc/resolv.conf? [12:52] Guest79844: that looks correct [12:53] can i pastebin the xorg.conf ? cause i am running slack in the other pc [12:53] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [12:53] how i can do it? [12:53] can you not access the internet from your other pc? [12:54] yes [12:55] nope. [12:55] zaltekk: here is what i did.. I removed everything but 2 nameservers.. tried my ISP and also tried OpenDNS [12:55] subvhome: hmm, i was going to say try opendns next... [12:55] subvhome: do you get long delays if you dig a dns name? [12:55] Kaapa (~Something@bl9-249-172.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:56] zaltekk: one second.. [12:56] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) joined ##slackware. [12:56] i need help choosing a good wikiwiki. i have a tree of directories that I want to run under one wiki script. [12:56] in xorg.conf file in screen modes section it says 1280x1024 [12:57] here is something weird.. [12:57] Kaapa (~Something@bl9-249-172.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:57] zaltekk: i tried loading hotbot.com... it took forever on the browser.. at the same time i tried dig hotbot.com and it responded in the blink of an eye [12:58] subvhome: what browser? have you tried a different one? [12:58] firefox.. haven't tried a different one [12:58] let me try links [12:59] i've had issues with parts of the firefox UI being extremely sluggish in 3.6...the issues randomly resolved themselves, though. another person here mentioned the same problem too. [12:59] also, i've see people complain about other UI slowness before with firefox 3.6, but never a DNS issue [12:59] seems to fly in links [12:59] disable net.ipv6 in firefox [12:59] ALVAN: excellent idea.. brb. [13:00] wait.. [13:00] was thinking.. i use SABNzbd [13:00] i get delays connecting to clients [13:00] to server rather [13:00] is network.dns.disableIPv6 [13:01] subvhome: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Firefox+cannot+load+websites+but+other+programs+can#IPv6 explains how to do what ALVAN said. [13:01] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-28-68.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:02] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [13:02] MReimer (~chatzilla@p4FD4A468.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 2.0.3/20100223140908] [13:02] zaltekk: default was disabled. [13:03] when iam trying to run xorgconfig [13:03] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-25-187.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:03] it says that command not found [13:03] Guest79844: do you mean xorgsetup? [13:03] yes [13:03] BrokenCog: I havea STAC92xx card, if that makes a difference. MY analog loopback option appears to have disappered in some of the -current alsa stuff. [13:03] subvhome: check your proxy settings in FF perhaps? [13:03] xsamurai (~fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [13:04] iam login as roots and it says only root can configure x [13:04] subvhome: i'd look at the other things mentioned on that page i linked. [13:04] jkwood: i should look into doing an upgrade then. i'm running 13.0. [13:04] issue doesn't only occur in firefox. i it happens in other applications as well [13:04] I have the same STAC92 card. [13:04] Guest79844: you can also hit the TAB button to autocomplete commands, like on irc with nicks [13:04] What kernel? [13:04] subvhome: but only some other applications? [13:04] subvhome: what does "ip route show" give you? [13:04] although, in alsamixer it shows as Intel G45 DEVCTG, which i'm not sure how that relates to the STAC92 chip. [13:05] Tab is probably the best key on linux, besides Enter [13:05] i'm using the 2.6.29.6-smp which comes with 13.0 [13:05] 29.6 should be new enough to detect it. [13:05] Guest79844: s/roots/root/ [13:06] http://pastebin.com/FvzUPb4y [13:06] BrokenCog: just try a new kernel? (unless you have a new ATI video card) [13:06] jkwood: i think the kernel is good, alsamixer has three loopback channels. i've been toggling them just now. [13:06] zaltekk: i appreciate this.. its been bothering before... then i reinstalled slackware and i didn't notice it.. now i am again. [13:07] subvhome: you mean it didn't always do this? [13:07] I am absolutely confused with all these!! [13:07] if i have 2 on, the other two muted i get no sound. if 1 or 3 are on, i get headphone sound, no speaker sound. [13:07] subvhome: can you still paste the output if "ip route show"? [13:07] sorry... [13:07] on another note. I'm about to install slackware 13 on a UMPC. The old OQO Model 01 [13:07] BrokenCog: whats the output of cat /proc/asound/cards [13:07] zaltekk: ubvhome> http://pastebin.com/FvzUPb4y [13:07] Cann0n: earlier i described how sound was working fine, until i booted a newer kernel. [13:07] ah, sorry. missed it [13:07] when iam typing root it isnt ask me for pass [13:07] why? [13:08] that output looks normal [13:08] 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel [13:08] HDA Intel at 0xfc700000 irq 22 [13:08] BrokenCog: ah. in that case, how did you generate your .config? [13:08] i'm not sure how or why certain programs are getting confused when trying to resolve DNS and others aren't [13:08] zcat /proc/config.z > ./.config [13:08] zaltekk: let me try links again. [13:09] BrokenCog: might have tried cat /proc/config.gz > /usr/src/linux/.config [13:09] zaltekk: its weird links responds quickly. [13:09] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [13:09] Cann0n: that's the result yes. thanks for the clarification. [13:10] subvhome: so your DNS is setup correctly. you disabled ipv6 support and that didn't fix the problem. only some programs suffer from DNS lookup latency...i'm not sure what else to look at. [13:10] dErFz (~derf@188.72.255.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:10] jkwood: do you know of any speaker mute in the HDA Intel channels > i'm listeing to sound thorugh headphones, but can't get speaker sound. [13:10] subvhome: Did you disable ipv6 in firefox? [13:10] jkwood: this is a laptop by the way. [13:11] subvhome: I would make a post on LinuxQuestions and explain everything you're tried. maybe somebody else can think of more things to look into. [13:11] BrokenCog: That sounds like it's not properly detecting that you're switching from headphones tospeakers. [13:11] guys.. actually... [13:11] BrokenCog: but in any case, do this http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/QuSZGd14.html [13:11] i miss read the settings in firefox. i think i just disabled it now.. [13:11] gunna try again. [13:11] lol, okay. [13:12] whoa... that's what im talking about [13:12] wonder if there is an ipv6 setting in sabnzbd [13:12] subvhome: sounds like you need to look into system-wide settings and see why some programs are attempting to use ipv6 instead of ipv4 [13:12] zaltekk, jk, ALVAN: thanks [13:13] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.102.149) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Cann0n: hold on.. loading link. [13:13] BrokenCog change the default of course [13:13] Dial-up? [13:13] when i open terminal i type su-i....i am root and after that i write xorgsetup and it says only root can configure x... [13:13] what is going? [13:14] Guest79844: just type su [13:14] lol .. other issue. [13:14] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [13:14] BrokenCog: ah. I'm on dial-up. D: [13:14] the same again... [13:14] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [13:15] BrokenCog: I had to set my alsa's default manually. [13:15] [OpenSys] (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [13:15] Guest79844: "su -i" is not a valid command. [13:15] i ve got the same results with su-i and with su [13:16] it says only root can ...blah ....blah [13:16] try "su -" and report back what it says. [13:16] Guest79844: Either "sudo -i" or "su -" [13:16] subvhome: you might want to do something like "echo 'blacklist ipv6" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf' [13:17] also I wish people would stop advising to use "su" instead of "su -" [13:17] add blacklist ipv6 to the list.. sounds good. [13:17] ok I find it...huge thanks! now i have open xorgsetup [13:17] what next? [13:17] read the slackbook? [13:17] Cann0n: what exactly will that be doing ? [13:17] subvhome: that way you can leave application settings alone, and all problems will avoid the dns resolution slowdown [13:18] i swear, windows still manages to lag on my SSD [13:18] Time is 10:17am, computer has been up for 1w 11m 25s [13:18] i was talking with 2 guys before that tried to help me with my problem [13:18] blacklist only affective after reboot right? [13:18] usus12jari (~ashe@114.58.218.206) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:18] BrokenCog: well, you gotta cange default_alsa_card= to the right one from the output of cat /proc/asound/cards [13:19] but it's setting a hardware proile for alsa [13:19] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:19] im going to reboot. brb [13:19] subvhome (~substance@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:19] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:20] Guest79844 (~Greek@cust-253-231.on4.ontelecoms.gr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:20] Guest79844: If you will be using slackware, you need to learn how to help yourself. Check this site out http://sweet.nodns4.us/ [13:21] damn.... i missed him [13:21] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:21] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [13:22] zux1wrk (~zux@80.232.209.244) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:22] usus12jari (~ashe@114.58.218.206) joined ##slackware. [13:23] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-52.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:24] i know this is not exactly the room for this question but i am sure many people here knows this, between serial links you have also broadcast domains? [13:24] Immundus (obi@g225059032.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware ("signing off"). [13:24] Cann0n: what part of the /proc/asounds/cards am I using to set those values ? [13:24] i mean two routers connected by a serial link form a broadcast domain? [13:26] BrokenCog: hold on. let me make the instructions more clear. i'll also add my example [13:27] Cann0n: look back at the cards output i sent earlier -- what from that should the values be set to ? [13:29] BrokenCog: Intel [13:29] my output is 0 [SB ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB [13:29] HDA ATI SB at 0xd2300000 irq 16 [13:29] root[jack]# [13:29] Channel flood from Cann0n -- kicking [13:29] root[jack]# [13:29] Cann0n kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [13:29] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [13:29] Cann0n: okay. i tried that -- did rc.alsa restart. it didn't create any additional channels. [13:29] Action: raendeer slaps Cann0n for not using pastebin [13:30] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [13:30] raendeer: yeah, i posted that earlier since it was two lines. [13:30] raendeer: that's the thing. i was trying too lol. middle click didn't work the frist time so i copied and pasted [13:31] Cann0n: I have trouble going from firefox -> term sometimes with middle click.. have to go firefox -> kwrite -> term.. so annoying :P [13:32] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:32] biker (~biker@201.170.187.127.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) joined ##slackware. [13:33] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/CC0Xtf23.html [13:33] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:33] dammit. brokenclog, you impatient ass hole [13:33] Action: Cann0n hates dial up [13:33] we all do [13:35] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:35] thats twice today someone left while i was replying to them [13:35] maybe you should type a short reply first, followed by the expanded version [13:36] would it be a good idea to set up a local repo for a 32bit Slack 13 dvd? [13:36] but on the otherhand, maybe you shouldn't worry about those kinds of guys [13:36] Skywise: [13:36] maybe should i start doing this [13:36] yeah, that would give them pause [13:36] Cann0n: if they leave while you're helping them, then they can figure it out on their own or give up :P [13:37] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-25-23-91.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:37] Cann0n: Perhaps they came across your noobfarm page. [13:37] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) joined ##slackware. [13:37] bleh! thats ok. i'm neglecting my homework more... to set up multilib [13:38] BP{k} (~michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:38] BP{k} (~michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) joined ##slackware. [13:38] Cann0n: well, i dont' see any additional channels in alsamixer after rebooting - i trrid sh.alsa restart as well ... I have sound in the headphones so i'm kind of going to stop for now. [13:38] maybe it will magically work later just like it magically stopped. [13:39] you smell anything funny when it stopped working? [13:39] alsaconfig do anything? [13:39] BrokenCog: don't know what your total problem is (haven't read up) - tried alsaconfig [13:39] er ? [13:39] BrokenCog: did you lose pcm or master or something? [13:40] BrokenCog: Upon reflection, that may have been a bug in an older alsa, too. [13:41] I have had channels disappear before.. I believe it was under certain kernels when I had multiple loaded (accidentally booted to the other kernel and wondered why alsamixer as gone), and maybe alsaconfig sorted it before [13:41] er, sorted out the issue [13:42] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:42] i've noticed that my laptop responds strangely to the headphone jack in regards to the speakers too [13:43] if my sound is muted, i can plug in headphones and get sound, then unplug them and have sound on the system speakers while it still shows as muted... [13:43] toggling mute off and back on fixes it, though. [13:43] Wait... if you're using 13.0, though, that shouldn't matter. [13:47] Reaver1 (Joachim@212.88.117.162) left ##slackware. [13:49] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [13:50] dErFz (~derf@188.72.255.195) joined ##slackware. [13:50] Nick change: vbatts__ -> vbatts [13:51] god DAMN.. its FINALLY sorted [13:52] SysAdmin Tips: Step One: DO NOT run a NetBackup Server without Symantec Support. [13:52] Zordrak: Using a recursive bubble sort? Those take time, yes. [13:52] crouton (1000@bas1-toronto10-1279398219.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:52] SysAdmin Tips: Step Tmo: See Step One [13:52] *Two [13:52] dang it. where does exo-open store the information about preferred web browser, etc ? [13:52] Its ALL sorted.. but only after two hours running through it with Symantec support and Webex [13:53] it's gotta be somewhere but i can't seem to find it [13:54] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:55] hi [13:55] the sd card which /dev/xxx is ? [13:56] if you're in a desktop environment, i think you can easily see that if you right click the device? [13:56] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:56] hmm no you can't [13:56] just type mount then i think [13:56] crouton, the problem its that when I insert the card, nothing happens, like if I havent inserted [13:56] so I was thinking maybe I can try to mounted [13:57] ah so it's not auto-mounting is it [13:57] crouton, thats what I think :) [13:57] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) joined ##slackware. [13:57] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:57] hm.. well i don't know how it's numbered or labelled [13:57] but you could just check /dev for what looks different? [13:58] biker: dmesg may reveal where it was assigned [13:58] biker: /dev/md* perrhaps. [13:59] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: brb [13:59] yea it's some weird lettering. on ubuntu, it seems like it's tf* [13:59] hackedhead, crouton, jkwood, ok with dmesg this is the last line: mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card [14:00] so it is /dev/mmc0 right? [14:00] well, it would have been, but there was an error [14:00] yea, mmc0 doesnt exists [14:00] yeah, my cards show as /dev/mmc0p1,2,3 [14:00] p# being the partitions [14:01] There we go. [14:02] but on my /dev there arent any mmc [14:02] =/ [14:02] maybe the card's damaged [14:02] what are the preceding lines in dmesg, it may reveal more about the error [14:02] or just try replugging, sometimes i've had it randomly fail to init when plugging it in [14:03] hackedhead, I already did that :p [14:03] mmk =P [14:03] and the lines before are of the network card connecting to the web :p [14:04] is it known to work via other devices? [14:04] crouton, yea I think it is, because when I inserted on the cam it tells me it can read it, that needs to be formatted, and I wanted to formated from the pc, thats why im trying to pluggin it [14:04] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.60) joined ##slackware. [14:04] ah [14:04] why not let the cam format it? [14:05] or is it not for use in the cam? [14:05] hackedhead, the card is from a friend and he told me he couldnt format it from the the pc [14:05] sorry,., from the cam * [14:06] so it's possible it's a bad card. [14:06] yea =/ [14:06] i'm guessing you don't have windows? [14:06] crouton, yes I have [14:06] tried reading it in there? [14:06] *sigh* [14:06] crouton, no, I think ill do that [14:06] hackedhead, lol :p [14:06] depressing that troubleshooting linux involves using windwos so much [14:06] what kind of card reader is it? [14:07] though i suppose the alternate is equally true. [14:07] internal or some sort of usb plugin thing? [14:07] crouton, internal [14:07] known to work with other cards? [14:07] lol, i've never used windows to trouble shoot linux. [14:07] hackedhead, yea, i could read cards on fedora and ubuntu, and also windows [14:07] go go gadget process of elimination [14:07] yea, if it's internal i think drivers are needed for the motherboard to access the internal components properly [14:08] crouton: the kernel usually has them built in, pretty generic stuffs [14:08] crouton: the internal card readers are usually made by just a few companies [14:08] they aren't specific to the motherboard [14:08] hmm.. well, i dunno. give it a shot in windows and see how it goes. if it doesn't work there, then at least you know it's the card. [14:08] my proverbial money is on a bad card. [14:09] seems like it might be, yea [14:09] good thing they're cheap [14:09] or are you trying to recover data from this thing? [14:09] BrokenCog_ (~Daniel@125.213.207.141) joined ##slackware. [14:12] biker (~biker@201.170.187.127.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:12] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.76.32) joined ##slackware. [14:13] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:17] Axius (~hi@109.97.44.16) joined ##slackware. [14:17] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-gyexruxyjaqnbuix) left irc: Quit: xMDKx [14:19] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:22] downloaded the static binary of Skype, what is the trick to make it run? it says "no such file or directory" when i try to run it [14:22] fooy: chmod +x? [14:22] this is on slackware 64 [14:22] chmod a+x ? [14:22] ugh [14:22] fooy: do you have multilib+? [14:22] no [14:22] bingo [14:23] you need multilib to use 32-bit programs fooy [14:23] you need multilib to run a 32bit binary under slack64 [14:23] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [14:23] Action: Necos prods Zordrak [14:23] i was here first.. didnt tread on your sandwiches [14:23] :) [14:23] hahaha [14:23] is there a 64-bit version of skype for slackware? [14:23] no [14:23] they dont make a 64bit afaik [14:24] if you want skype you need 32bit support [14:24] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:24] its only available as binary.. theres no source to recompile for 64 [14:25] fooy: i've been using Win Skype under VirtualBox - it works well. [14:26] fooy: I've heard rumors that Skype will be 64-bit or open-sourced within a reasonable timeframe. However, I've heard a lot of that in the past. [14:26] yeah.. dont believe a thing till you see it with your own peepers [14:26] jkwood, where'd you hear that? [14:27] one part would be open sourced: the ui [14:27] jkwood: but wasn't it Skype that said they are afraid to open source their software because of how insecure the core of it is? [14:27] i don't see Skype being 64b any time soon, considering that their Linux version is 2.3 major versions behind. [14:27] its generally a "it works on Fedora and ubuntu, so we dont care" sitchation [14:27] there would still be a binary backend that holds all their dirty little secrets. the plan is to release a beta in the coming months [14:27] Necos: Probably through tuxmachines.org, so in other words I can't tell you where it came from. [14:27] zaltekk: Wouldn't surprise me. [14:28] There is a beta out, and it works reasonably well as long as you havve 32-bit libs to support it. [14:28] It even works fine with the current SlackBuild, though you need to tell it not to strip it. [14:29] Unfortunately, skype has yet to jump on the 64-bit bandwagon. Maybe I'll go to work for them one day and make it happen. [14:30] you da man [14:30] jkwood, i was just curious... >.> [14:30] can i get your autograph now before you become uber famous? :) [14:31] hmmm, another random question... anyone use qbasic on linux? [14:31] ubuntu has a 64-bit version, can't it be rigged onto slackware? [14:31] ubuntu has 64-bit skype? [14:31] fooy: Ubuntu is multilib. [14:31] fooy, it is not a 64 bit skype, it is running against 32 bit libs there too [14:31] oh [14:31] I have skype on my machine as well, but that's because I have configured my machine to be multilib. [14:32] fooy, here's the deal, there is currently NO 64 bit skype [14:32] comprende? :) [14:32] i have a weird issues ps -ef doesn't resolve the UID of 81 to its user (messagebus) [14:32] goarilla, it's too long of a name [14:32] Necos: There are basic solutions for Linux, I think freebasic might be comparable. [14:32] aaah k thanks [14:33] that explains why ps -u messagebus u does supply the entry [14:33] i did the whole multilib thing but that made my box feel dirty and whorish , reverted back to 64 [14:33] oo.. more good news.. only have 40 tapes to import not 60 \o/ [14:33] and realbasic [14:34] Axius (~hi@109.97.44.16) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:34] but it's commercial but free to use and has a gui drag & drop widgets IDE [14:34] xsamurai: I came from Slamd64, I'm spoiled. [14:34] xsamurai: classic line, nice for a .sig ;-) [14:35] so it's more Visual Basic than plain old basic and if you want VB alike gambas is a better option [14:35] woo i get to go home now... ttfn [14:35] nah, i just have qbasic programs that my quantum mechanics professor gave me, and i want to run them in linux [14:35] Necos: i have run qbasic in dosbox tho [14:36] gorilla.bas, an old IBM game [14:36] hehehe, cool [14:36] worked as intended [14:36] goarilla: A classic. [14:36] Yes, dosbox is a triumph of emulation. [14:36] had to fiddle with the nr of cycles a bit tho :D [14:36] And, thankfully, runs 16-bit happily under a 64-bit environment. [14:36] Action: jkwood looks at Wien crossly [14:37] heehhhe [14:38] sbopkg'ing dosbox now ^.^ [14:38] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:38] fooy (1000@125.25.145.232.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) left irc: Quit: ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet? [14:38] I've been using dosbox for years, even when I was on Windows. [14:38] damn... lol [14:39] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@pool-71-255-88-76.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:40] Hey, I'm using Slack13.0 on both a laptop and desktop and I cannot get a microphone working on either (for Skype [14:41] Anyone know what could be wrong? [14:41] SigmaVirus24: I've had to unmute my microphone manually pretty much anytime I plug one in. [14:41] well one is builtin [14:41] the other is a very basic mic that plugs in to my desktop [14:41] SigmaVirus24: ensure you're using the correct capture in aslamixer. [14:41] (built into my laptop) [14:42] i have the same problem with the built in mics on my laptop - i have to toggle the capture in alsa. [14:42] could also try alsactl store to save your mixer settings once set [14:42] that doesn't do it. [14:42] ok [14:42] i need to re-toggle it every time i start skype. [14:42] let me try that BrokenCog_ [14:43] it took me ages to find the correct combo of mutes and ons in the various channels -- it _WAS_ working. [14:43] now i have no speaker sound. [14:43] I really should write an email to the alsa folks about that. It's a bit of an annoyance. [14:43] There's probably also a configuration option for it. [14:43] for what ? [14:43] Automatic mic muting. [14:44] ah. perhaps. [14:44] I'm trying to turn capture up [14:44] and it won't let me [14:44] one of the mic sources is muted probably. [14:45] the one labeled "Mic" has nothing [14:45] "Mic Boost" is all the way up [14:45] as is Internal [14:46] ack. have to run. Be back in an hour or so. [14:46] sorry for cutting out. [14:46] Ok thanks [14:46] No problem [14:49] Any other ideas? [14:49] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:50] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-190-177.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [14:52] usus12jari (~ashe@114.58.218.206) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:55] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [14:55] BrokenCog__ (~Daniel@125.213.207.141) joined ##slackware. [14:56] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:56] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [14:57] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [14:57] SigmaVirus24: what's your sound hardware? i have some intel builtin cards which use snd_hda_intel and won't record any sound, although the microphone input is audible via the sound output. [14:57] have you recorded sound previously ? [14:58] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) joined ##slackware. [14:59] BrokenCog_ (~Daniel@125.213.207.141) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:59] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:00] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [15:01] BrokenCog__ (~Daniel@125.213.207.141) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:02] IIRC, the problem chipset (for me) was a realtek ALC888 [15:02] alexcg (~alexander@81.94.31.106) joined ##slackware. [15:02] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430563.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [15:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430563.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:06] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:06] i can get part of $975,000 settlement. appararently these good people from moldova just need a temporary bank acct to help them through and my CC # [15:08] lol [15:08] trhodes: i ahven't [15:08] *haven't recorded sound previously [15:08] i just checked on one machine that I can't record onto, and it's not 888, but ALC883 [15:09] Let me check [15:09] there was another similar chipset with that problem, and I'm not sure if there's a fix [15:11] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:11] well, that didn't take as long as I thought it would. [15:11] SigmaVirus24: any luck with your mic ? [15:11] v4nelle (~van@188.4.229.108.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:12] Well this is an HP from 2008, and it should be an AD1981HD Sound Blaster Pro, High Def Audio sound card [15:12] Which I would assume also covers the mike trhodes [15:12] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [15:13] BrokenCog: trhodes was offering the idea that my chipset might just be incapbale [15:13] Asido (~asido@lan-84-240-5-116.vln.skynet.lt) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:13] (Which wouldn't surprise me since my College forces us to buy these overpriced pieces of crap) [15:13] SigmaVirus24: ahh. well, that might be i guess. [15:13] SigmaVirus24: you have the same chipset on the laptop and the desktop ?? [15:14] no [15:14] /proc/asound/card$x/codec#$x says what alsa thinks the chipset is [15:14] SigmaVirus24: i remember you typing you have the same problem on two machines ? [15:14] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [15:16] trhodes: how does one change between the different codes ? i have two codec files in asound/card0, which is activee ? [15:16] i don't know [15:16] i can look though [15:17] alsamixer might say [15:17] yes, it lists which is being used, but how to change it between the otehr codec ? [15:18] i'm going to try a reboot ... BRB. [15:18] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:19] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-74-224.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:22] xih_ (~xih@200-96-221-211.pvoce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:22] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:23] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:24] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-52.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. 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[15:34] but trhodes it's an intel device, what am I looking for in teh codecs [15:35] you might have to use teh google and find module loadtime options to fix the problems [15:35] *no but on that last line [15:36] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) left irc: Client Quit [15:36] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) joined ##slackware. [15:37] Ok [15:37] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:37] BrokenCog, SigmaVirus24: ubuntu's hdaintelsoundhowto is actually helpful [15:37] also my \/ key (I can't use it ob\/iously) just kind of stops working ranodmly [15:37] *randomly [15:38] and it's not just my desktop either, it happens on a machine at my schools lab (running ubuntu) [15:38] so it isn't a keyboard issue [15:39] and alsa-project's "how to debug hda intel" is nice, but mostly over my head [15:39] trhodes: should check that out. [15:39] do you happen to have a link ? [15:39] yes [15:39] it also appears that my "one" key is not working either [15:39] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto [15:39] very vexing, varied issues, be vituperative and vehement, violent if need be but viciously virtuous too. [15:40] So, now after that last reboot - I have now have full sound. [15:40] i had a (desktop USB) keyboard flakeout the other day that a simple unplug/replug fixed [15:40] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [15:40] mancha: funny [15:40] i'd say \/ery but it is two extra keystrokes [15:40] s_[Vv]_\/_g :P [15:41] nope [15:41] ah there we go [15:41] that is so random [15:41] and checking dmesg once again provides no insight ;___; [15:42] BrokenCog: was anything different about this reboot? [15:42] throdes, you might be missing a "\" there [15:42] s_[Vv]_\\/_g mayhaps? :) [15:42] yeah, i noticed that after I typed it; shoulda used a pair of ''s [15:42] ;) [15:42] the ' ' won't solve that though [15:43] well, it was too reboots ... boot one: no KDE, log in as root, check alsamixer, ctl store reboot and then KDE sound works. not sure if the log in tweak alsa as root or no KDE was the trrick. [15:43] oh, dang, once again you teach me the subleties of quoting :) [15:43] Axius (~hi@109.97.44.16) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:43] the day you stop learning is the day you die :> [15:45] BrokenCog: i never looked into this, but my pcmc0c changes after being used by an alsa app [15:45] what is pcmc0c ? [15:45] ie, alsamixer showed different channels before, say, a mplayer -ao alsa $FILE than after [15:46] the control pcm [15:46] lsof /dev/snd/* when you have a mixer app open to see [15:47] stand by one. [15:48] does kmix count ? [15:48] um, probably, if kde is using alsa [15:48] okay. [15:48] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [15:49] i don't have a pcmc0c, but there are a couple of others. [15:49] oh, maybe it's a typo on my part, but I think the ones that end in "c" are control pcms [15:49] http://pastebin.org/116515 [15:49] are the listings i have ... [15:51] i can't find anything about two codecs on google [15:51] so that seems suspect [15:51] lemme link you to the alsa page i was looking at [15:51] http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA [15:51] neither could i. which is why i asked. haven't found anything about purging them yet either. [15:52] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:52] if i'm not mistaken, the codecs are the hardware [15:52] is this intel HD? [15:52] yeah i figured as much [15:52] yes. [15:52] nille_ (1000@c-83-233-249-34.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [15:53] Are the opengl man pages available to install as a package anywhere? [15:54] BrokenCog, i bet there are a lot of changes in the kernel changelogs for intel HD between 2.6.29.6 and 2.6.33.1 [15:54] alexcg (~alexander@81.94.31.106) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:55] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [15:55] i'm currently using 29.6 kernel. When i try again on a newer kernel I"ll look through the change logs and see if anything is present about alsa. [15:55] but the codec thing has been a bit screwy with hd intel due to hardware manufacturers [15:56] BrokenCog: perhaps module options will help [15:56] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-23-253.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [15:56] is it possible to install a new version of gcc from the SB available in current to my system without overriding previous gcc ? [15:56] i'm using one, [15:56] i'm on slack64 13.0 [15:57] paissad, yes, i have a few parallel gcc's you have to make sure you specify install locations intleligently [15:57] options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m6 which seems to help. [15:58] trhodes: I"m pretty sure when I boot in the other kernel, something is chagned in the hardware which takes a lot of twiddling to restore. [15:58] trhodes: any other options you would suggest ? [15:58] paissad, i would not recommend trying [15:59] BrokenCog: nothing other than what the ubuntu hdaintelsoundhowto page says :/ [15:59] trhodes: i'm still reading it. haven't gotten to far. [16:01] narhen (~Henrik@90.149.24.210) joined ##slackware. [16:01] atticuh (~achikusa@static-host-74-205-137-82.epbinternet.com) joined ##slackware. [16:04] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:04] BrokenCog: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/docs/HD-Audio.html is helpful too. Is there anything in your dmesg output about azx_get_response stuff ? [16:05] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:05] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:06] BrokenCog: also, you might as well diff -Naur (or whatever) the /proc entries across kernels -- it might show something useful [16:06] but that takes a reboot :( [16:06] trhodes: i was just reading that section. dmesg has one output. [16:06] narhen (~Henrik@90.149.24.210) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:07] probe_mask=1 is worth a shot then [16:07] narhen (~Henrik@90.149.24.210) joined ##slackware. [16:07] or 8 [16:07] http://pastebin.org/116529 [16:07] user3476349 (~user99978@adsl-76-235-61-134.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:07] trhodes: it seems like a goode result ... [16:08] i think it's like the kernel.org page says, and you have a codec-probing problem [16:08] oh wait, i see that's a warning... not fatal [16:09] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [16:09] trhodes: it is something though. I haven't gotten to the kernel.org page. [16:09] you're on 2.6.29, and that page says the probing is more robust in that kernel [16:10] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.102.149) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:10] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:10] so it's weird that you would get that output [16:12] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [16:12] johnbristol (~john@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:17] i'm not sure how it' s a bad message ... [16:18] trhodes: seems like the probe is working. [16:20] Would someone who's found Akonadi/Nepomuk useful like to describe what they've got out of it? I carefully worded that to try to get a positive response. [16:20] lol [16:20] trhodes: did you read this paragraph: http://pastebin.org/116539 ... that's really similar. I"m about to confirm if it works on my machine. [16:23] trhodes: well .. it was something to try anyway *:). [16:25] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [16:27] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:29] vdvluc (~vdvluc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:30] vdvluc (~vdvluc@ip503df0b4.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:32] how can i make my clock sincronize on internet? [16:33] ntpd [16:33] try ntpd ... [16:33] yeah. [16:33] what he typed *:). [16:33] what Broken said [16:33] phzin (~x3@unaffiliated/phzin) joined ##slackware. [16:33] phzin (x3@unaffiliated/phzin) left ##slackware. [16:38] trhodes: thanks for your help. I'm going to keep those two links handy as they are good pointers. [16:39] trhodes: now i move on to bigger issues -- bluetooth. [16:49] johnbristol: I never even bothered trying it [16:49] They're trying to make it more Mac user friendly I think... to get some converts [16:49] :P [16:51] dErFz (~derf@188.72.255.195) left irc: Changing host [16:51] dErFz (~derf@unaffiliated/derfz) joined ##slackware. [16:54] Axius (~hi@109.97.44.16) joined ##slackware. [16:55] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:55] atticuh (~achikusa@static-host-74-205-137-82.epbinternet.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:59] tapp (~tapp@pD9E22E06.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [17:00] Axius (~hi@109.97.44.16) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:03] SigmaVirus24: I'm wary of the idea that my carefully located data, which I put in the place I intend to retrieve it from, can end up spread like butter across my other applications without my say-so. But perhaps I'm not properly understanding what it's for. [17:05] insert (insert_@187.41.55.189) joined ##slackware. [17:06] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E778E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:08] johnbristol: what do you mean by "spread like butter across my applications"? [17:11] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:12] BrokenCog (~Daniel@122.201.47.214) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:14] pprkut: I thought part of the purpose of Akonadi/Nepomuk was to abstract data from some of my user files and make them available to any enabled package that asked for it. [17:15] yes....and no. It depends on how you read that sentence :/ [17:15] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Quit: lalala caindo fora [17:15] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:18] akonadi does not really fit their. It's completely different from what nepomuk does [17:20] ALVAN (~galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:23] pprkut: is it meaningful to have the one without the other or are they effectively one package? I ought to go and read more before I talk about it being part of a full install. [17:24] subvhome (~substance@1-18-132-169.idt.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] whatup crwe [17:24] crew [17:24] johnbristol: yes, you can have one without the other, they're completely separated apps [17:25] need some help with an old device. I have a very tiny computer called the oqo model 01. anyways. i just installed windows now i want to put slackware on it. when i boot the slackware dvd.. i get ISOLINUX 3.52...blahblah.. Could not find kernel image:linux boot: [17:26] johnbristol: also, you can turn off nepomuk, but akonadi is an integral part of kdepim. Which means either use akonadi, or not use kmail/korganizer/... [17:26] i tried everything i found on google trying to boot the kernel image.. but i don't see linux image anywhere on that dvd [17:27] Nick change: insert -> insert_ [17:27] Greyhound- (Greyhound@79.114.42.199) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:27] Greyhound- (Greyhound@79.114.42.199) joined ##slackware. [17:27] pprkut: thank you, I'll read some more. [17:28] no problem :) [17:28] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-183-108.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:28] johnbristol (~john@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:28] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@pool-71-255-88-76.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:31] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) joined ##slackware. [17:34] [OpenSys] (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [17:38] Nick change: cbpye1 -> cbpye [17:39] reeve (~reeve@p5B13AC3D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [17:39] hi [17:40] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [17:43] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [17:44] can someone suggest a Color LaserJet w/ FlatBed scanner that I won't have too many issues with configuration and network printing? [17:47] http://www.openprinting.org/printers [17:49] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] xih (~xih@200-96-221-211.pvoce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:49] v6CommO, that's an MFC-type device, and there are plenty of them that work [17:50] and they're also very expensive [17:51] metrofox (metrofox@ppp-23-253.33-151.iol.it) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [17:51] trying to saty under $300 [17:51] seems possible on NewEgg [17:51] not gonna happen [17:52] really? [17:52] I have a couple Brother All in Ones that work nice. [17:52] highly doubt it [17:52] got both for $50, latest one supporting networking and wifi. [17:52] fire|bird, most brother ones are not color ;) [17:52] they're b/w [17:52] Necos: both of mine are color. :) [17:52] not Laser though [17:52] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: Bye [17:53] yeah, they're inkjet, right? [17:53] everything is better with lazors [17:53] ah [17:53] Necos: yeah, I'm just saying, they work great. :) [17:53] but he's saying laser with color [17:53] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:53] not gonna happen < $300 [17:53] Necos: I know, I didn't see that part at first. [17:53] Action: fire|bird stabs Necos [17:53] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:53] Action: Necos stabs fire|bird back [17:53] :) [17:53] hahaha [17:53] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:54] i know what i'm talking about... i get teachers asking me this question all the time [17:54] Necos: 48F out today here, blood will dry up quick. :P [17:54] Necos: fire|bird: thanks, will look at possibly going InkJet [17:54] it's 83F in my office... a/c not working [17:54] 83F?!?!?! [17:54] Action: fire|bird stabs Necos again. [17:54] and it happens every fucking year at the same time [17:55] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [17:55] that's ALWAYS when crap breaks, when you need it most [17:56] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:56] the asst. principal in charge of building and grounds told us to buy fans... i want to punch the guy, but i'll lose my job :) [17:58] Necos: Well, I know Cali is broke, but can't they afford to fix the a/c ? :P [17:58] / [17:58] it gets even better [17:58] :o, do tell. :) [17:58] they have to replace the cooling pipes to fix the a/c [17:59] Necos, i'm sure your department pays a pretty penny for maintenence already [17:59] so what they did was, dig up the school, replace the bad pipes with plastic ones, and say that we'll have to replace the plastic ones with real steel pipes in about 4 months (and this was in dec.) [17:59] haha [18:00] so, let's see... they have to do one job twice... >.> [18:00] which means they have to pay the workers to come out twice, which doubles the cost of the project... and they wonder why LAUSD is broke... dumb shit like this! [18:00] They didn't think it'd be a better choice to use steel pipes the first go around? :P [18:00] be glad they didn't hit fiber or a gas line [18:00] they prolly couldn't get them on short notice [18:01] that would have sucked. [18:01] Skywise, oh, we already had that happen :) [18:01] lol [18:01] doh [18:01] they hit fiber, and it took out 1/4 of our school for about 2 weeks [18:01] Ah, the magic yellow fiber finder. [18:01] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-52.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:02] jkwood: you mean the one they couldn't afford to get and use? [18:02] Ouch. [18:02] >.> [18:02] Jiraia (~Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::572f) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:02] yeah, archaeologists couldn't find it, but any construction crew can [18:03] Nick change: xchg -> xchg_spi [18:04] need some help with an old device. I have a very tiny computer called the oqo model 01. anyways. i just installed windows now i want to put slackware on it. when i boot the slackware dvd.. i get ISOLINUX 3.52...blahblah.. Could not find kernel image:linux boot: [18:04] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [18:05] Skywise, of course :) [18:07] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-74-224.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:07] qb64 is awesome [18:08] and so is dosbox [18:08] insert (insert_@187.41.2.16) joined ##slackware. [18:09] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:09] even if i'm going to write all this code in perl, being able to see how it runs in qbasic is nice [18:09] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [18:09] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [18:10] can you play doom in dosbox? lol [18:11] insert_ (insert_@187.41.55.189) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:16] john_dee (~id@93-81-142-52.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [18:17] Does anyone have experience with the slackware USB installer ? i followed alien's steps and now prompted with the following when booting from the USB. "This is not a bootable disk. Please insert a bootable floppy and press any key to try again ..." [18:18] necos locos [18:19] subvhome, does your system boot from usb ? [18:20] heh [18:20] jeev: yes. i duplicated this in vmware too. [18:22] here is my problem. I'm using a handheld pc (UMPC: OQO Model 01) it only has 1USB port and firewire. slackDVD gives me a kernel not found (linux) error. I think that is because this handheld device is quite old and the bios may not work with ISOLINUX. so i resorted to USB installation [18:22] does the partition on the disk have to be marked bootable ? i dont remember [18:23] let me check that out in cfdisk [18:23] g33kb0ard3r (~chatzilla@63-236-218-131.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [18:23] g33kb0ard3r (~chatzilla@63-236-218-131.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.3/20100223143236] [18:23] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:24] http://pastebin.com/CXncH5Fb [18:24] looks fine [18:24] link me to his howto [18:24] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:24] you can' [18:24] cant pxe? [18:25] jeev: device only has wireless.. i need a dongle for ethernet [18:25] pain in the butt device .. but really cool too. [18:25] oh [18:25] and old [18:25] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/usbinstall/13.0/ [18:26] ive been dying to do PXE.. would save many headaches. [18:26] reeve (~reeve@p5B13AC3D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:27] wait [18:27] hrm... [18:27] Razec (1000@187-27-210-65.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:27] there is a mbr.bin file there.. not sure what that is for. the only thing i downloaded from that link i posted was the package for ms-sys and create_multipartboot.sh [18:28] mbr... [18:28] isn't that the master boot record or somehting [18:28] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [18:28] yup.. let me try the process again with all those files in my working directory [18:29] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [18:29] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-190-177.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:29] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Client Quit [18:30] :D [18:30] LTL2h (~LTL2h_@AToulouse-258-1-101-72.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:31] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:31] ping Camarade_Tux [18:31] * The 'ms-sys' program (get a Slackware package here: [18:31] http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/ms-sys/pkg/) [18:31] If you decide not to install and use ms-sys for the generation of a MBR [18:31] Channel flood from jeev -- kicking [18:31] record, you can add the "-m" switch to the script and then it will use the [18:31] MBR that comes with SysLinux. The ms-sys program generates a 'better' Master [18:31] Boot Record, your mileage may vary. [18:31] jeev kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [18:32] jeev (~email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [18:32] shit, sorry [18:32] stupid shit came out as a bunch of lines rather than one [18:32] atleast you didnt get a k/b [18:32] i run this network [18:32] nice lol [18:33] the network admins dont know but i do [18:33] man.. this is cool.. im at work.. and there is noone here. im just working on my new lil gadget [18:34] Camarade_Tux: ping [18:35] dd'ing again.. [18:36] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [18:37] brb... i gotta start some backups (work stuff) [18:37] which is better openoffice or go-oo (go-office)? [18:39] i hate LA [18:39] i haven't used go-oo, but openoffice is bloated [18:39] stupid ass warm weather [18:39] what what i got it [18:40] well in vmware.. lets home this boots on my OQO [18:40] Skywise: whats the difference between go-oo and openoffice? [18:41] dunno [18:41] jeev: they should put somewhere in that doc to copy all files to working directory :0\ [18:41] heh [18:42] Razec (1000@187-27-210-65.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:43] this is exciting. i hope i can get resolution 800x480 [18:46] aw man.. i think i should have loaded huge.s kernel [18:47] narhen (~Henrik@90.149.24.210) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:49] lol [18:55] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:57] huge.s saves you a lot of headaches :P [18:57] saves you a huge.s headache [18:57] just want to make sure it picks up the wifi radio [18:58] ::rim shot:: [18:58] but only if you have the ram to support it... [18:58] w00t [18:58] installing. [18:58] might take an hour via usb1.1 [18:58] who cares? it's installing :) [18:59] this device is about as big as a nintendo DSI [18:59] nice :) [18:59] i wish i had the newer model. i actually have the prototype [19:00] from 2003 [19:00] :) [19:00] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:01] ferdna (~ferdna@adsl-99-39-221-249.dsl.elpstx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: [19:01] oph oh.. datal error on kernel huge smmp ..... txz ill try to install that after :) i hope [19:01] i know its the kernel [19:02] does the installation save a log.. so i can see which files didnt go in ? [19:03] it might... but not sure [19:06] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.175) joined ##slackware. [19:07] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [19:08] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:08] anyone know? [19:09] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:09] what does the -ng on the end of something (a package) mean? [19:09] next generation [19:09] thanks [19:09] looking at aircracking stuff huh [19:09] :) [19:10] nope [19:10] http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/amigolinux/download/src2pkg/ [19:10] oh. [19:10] at least not right now ;) [19:10] :) [19:11] alphad64 (~alphad64@41.207.31.47) joined ##slackware. [19:11] i think there should be a way to check log files during installation of slackware [19:11] i want to know which packet i missed. [19:11] package [19:12] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:13] kpilar (~60fac2bc@gateway/web/freenode/x-juczcujibyggnxql) joined ##slackware. [19:13] hi [19:14] i was wondering if slackware64 would be worth it with just 1gb of ram [19:15] can anyone provide the benefits/disadvantages of it? [19:16] google can [19:16] alphad64 (~alphad64@41.207.31.47) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [19:18] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:18] Razec (1000@189-92-30-249.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:18] accessing 2^64 addresses is just part of it. [19:18] so it would be as if my 1gb of ram was just 512mb? [19:18] that would be an interesting thing to see [19:18] no kpilar [19:19] it means if you upgraded from 1gb to 8gb, you wouldn't have to reinstall your OS [19:19] well, i don't intend on upgrading it soon [19:19] which you would if you weren't running a 64-bit OS :P [19:19] by the way a 64 bit aware proc can access 4,294,967,296 as many address space locations than a 32-bit aware. [19:19] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.239) joined ##slackware. [19:19] Lets say i'm missing some of those txz packages.. what are my options to getting them back after my install. [19:20] rsync ? [19:20] you'd have to download them [19:20] just store them or i have to install them? [19:20] more likely http or ftp downloads :P [19:20] you have to install 'em [19:20] i think install. well i have the files locally on another machine [19:20] ok... [19:21] weird the think didn't copy kernel/headers everything else is going without a hitch. [19:21] mancha, of course, it's just 2^32 * 2^32 :P [19:22] would it help the speed of compilation? [19:22] i've not seen any optimization numbers, so i can't tell ya [19:22] Necos but seeing the number written out in decimal gives a sense of scale (at least for me) [19:22] i'm studying quantum mechanics, i'm used to seeing 10^-34 :P [19:22] so even 2^2 is a large number lol [19:23] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:23] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [19:24] do i install txz just like i do tgz? [19:24] yep [19:26] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: [19:32] cbpye (~Administr@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:32] when would it be ideal to use huge.s kernel [19:32] Ivshti (~ivo@77.76.50.154) joined ##slackware. [19:33] this machine does come shipped with xp... its 1ghz Transmeta Crusoe processor 256ram. [19:33] ahh.. ill experiment.. I'm ditching work no one is here. ill come back from home [19:34] sahk0 (~grbzks@ppp089210157052.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:34] sahk0 (~grbzks@ppp089210157052.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Changing host [19:34] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [19:34] alphad64 (~alphad64@41.207.31.47) joined ##slackware. [19:35] mrselfpwn: kinda pong [19:36] cbpye (~Administr@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:37] Camarade_Tux: ah thanks. nevermind though bud. i had a question about the bootup penguin location though I found it now [19:37] =) [19:38] I wasn't sure if i needed to recompile though i found that I did. [19:38] ;) [19:41] guys.. ill come back later thanks for the assist. [19:41] subvhome (~substance@1-18-132-169.idt.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:42] sec0nd (~second@unaffiliated/sec0nd) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:42] are there any guys for full disk encryption on slackware? [19:43] brainvision (~brainvisi@80.180.183.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:44] im for it [19:44] blah.. [19:44] typo.. i meant.. "guides for fde" [19:45] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.85.167) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:45] oh [19:45] hahaha :P [19:45] kpilar google for 'slackware luks lvm' [19:45] it's on the dvd somewhere [19:45] oh [19:45] and on the mirrors [19:45] if you come to france, you can encrypt my disk :-) [19:45] kpilar: README_CRYPT.TXT on the media or any mirror [19:45] thanks :) [19:48] Ivshti (~ivo@77.76.50.154) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:49] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.119.120) joined ##slackware. [19:50] r3n4n (~renan@unaffiliated/r3n4n) joined ##slackware. [19:55] how come the torrents aren't linked from the get slack page? [19:55] i would guess cause they're not seeded from there [19:56] nvision (~nvision@g229055046.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [19:56] i've seen them before [19:56] hmm, they look linked to me [19:59] aperturefever (~abell@athedsl-200070.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:01] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:01] brainvision (~brainvisi@host238-0-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:02] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [20:03] biker (~c9aa4d2b@gateway/web/freenode/x-dqhcmclkjhwizoem) joined ##slackware. [20:04] hackedhead: crouton jkwood ,., hi [20:04] sorry, here the internet sucks and it got disconnected :S [20:04] jeez. you came back [20:05] and i'm still here. fml [20:05] so did it work under windows? [20:05] lol, yea, all my block has no internet by now :S [20:05] crouton: nop [20:05] ah, then it's the card probably [20:05] crouton: it seems like the SD is damaged [20:05] yea [20:06] oh well [20:06] new card i guess [20:06] crouton: yea =/ [20:06] :p [20:06] thank you anyway :) [20:06] np [20:07] well im at school g2g [20:07] I just enter to apologize [20:07] kk. no worries [20:07] later man [20:07] ok thanks :) [20:07] cya [20:08] biker (~c9aa4d2b@gateway/web/freenode/x-dqhcmclkjhwizoem) left irc: Client Quit [20:10] r3n4n (renan@unaffiliated/r3n4n) left ##slackware. [20:11] alphad64 (~alphad64@41.207.31.47) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:15] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:16] CcSsNET (~q@c-98-216-179-56.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:18] jiraia (~jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::573f) joined ##slackware. [20:23] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt5-port-124.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:54] hmmm, what's the vt slackware mirror? mirrors.vt.edu or something like that? [20:54] hello! [20:55] Nick change: Greek -> Guest79177 [20:55] hi >.> [20:56] HELLO! [20:57] guys I spent half of my day...to setup my screen on linux but nothing [20:57] i have installed all the components of nvidia drivers but nothing [20:57] huh? in Xorg? [20:57] only 640x480 and 320x240 are the resolutions [20:57] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt5-port-124.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby [20:57] Razec (1000@189-92-30-249.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:58] Install proprietary nVidia drivers, run `nvidia-xconfig` as root [20:58] Guest79177: did you set horizsync and vertrefresh [20:58] T3slider: wow, never saw that [20:58] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-74-224.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:59] I used to setup manual resolutions and had to specify a custom modeline but nvidia-xconfig does it all [20:59] i might try that [20:59] can you run it from a terminal or do you have to be on console [20:59] Hm not sure, I've only tried from the console [20:59] I have done nvidia-config [21:00] nvidia-xconfig from the console [21:00] and it says using x configuration file, backed up file and new x configuration file [21:00] to create an xorg.conf [21:00] you know the paths [21:00] I think xorg.conf is only read upon X startup so you may be OK in a terminal, though I'm not sure if it's rewritten to upon exit from X [21:00] Guest79177: that should have created a new /etc/X11/xorg.conf file [21:00] yes [21:00] so I have to edit xorg.conf [21:01] You can try it without editing it. If you do need to edit it make sure you set the *correct* VertRefresh and HorizSync values as luvrofcorn stated -- otherwise it won't let you choose the optimal resolution even if you try to force it [21:01] haev you tried running nvidia-settings from X, it can also save to xorg.conf [21:02] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:02] Nick change: mikee -> mfreenet [21:02] yeah i have run several times nvidia-settings [21:02] but it has only 2 choices 640 and 320 [21:03] I cant work with these resolutions [21:03] so, I compile and install a new kernel, and everything is booting fine, and I'm going to install the NVIDIA drivers now and... it tells me that it can't determine the version of my kernel sources. SO i specify /usr/src/linux and try again... and it gives me the same thing. Anyone else ever get this? [21:03] Iam running blackbox [21:03] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] cbpye: latest nvidia from their site? [21:03] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] yes [21:04] cbpye: you did leave the kernel headers alone I hope? If you just compile your own kernel and install the modules for your new kernel then the only time I have seen that error is when the nVidia drivers haven't been updated for the latest kernel offerings (and thus need a patch) [21:05] yes either you need latest nvidia drivers (or future drivers) [21:05] or you need to embrace the love of foss [21:05] Guest79177: if X doesn't use the correct resolution after running nvidia-xconfig in the console then you may have to manually specify the HorizSync and VertRefresh values (DO NOT fudge these -- look up the values for your monitor) as long as the resolutions (and maybe even a custom modeline) from your xorg.conf [21:05] but i have a theory that the LOCALVERSION set in the .config (of slackware) where it has -smp....if you remove that localversion it may work [21:05] mancha: and totally exclude any 3d acceleration? [21:05] I have latest drivers and the most -current glibc, but I've not touched the kernel headers. bad things happened last time I did that. [21:06] the headers need to be the ones used when compiling glibc [21:06] so I need to update my headers now? [21:06] i didn't say that [21:06] Are you 100% updated to -current? There were problems with the nVidia proprietary drivers and -current, you need patched drivers [21:07] the headers need to be the ones against which your glibc are compiled against [21:07] I am 100% updated on current, save for anything that had to do with the kernel. [21:07] cbpye: try editing the .config and removing the localversion...and re installing the new kernel [21:07] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [21:07] joy. [21:07] I dont what I have to do...Iam absolutely confused...I ve got a terrible headache [21:07] Guest79177: that makes two of us! [21:08] cbpye: you have the /usr/src/linux symlink also, right? [21:08] lol [21:08] Guest79177: try running xorgsetup or something, and then re-running nvidia-xconfig? I'm new to Linux help in irc...used to forums [21:08] I believe nvidia-xconfig respects the original xorg.conf but I can't be sure of that [21:08] T3slider: I had no issues with current and the nvidia driver. It required no patches. [21:09] NVIDIA-Linux-x86-195.36.08-pkg1.run works fine. [21:09] That's the one that kills your GPU, right? :P [21:09] Fan related issues or something [21:09] Does not kill my GPU [21:09] ... [21:09] i dont know 4sho [21:09] theres a new beta out btw. 195.36.15 [21:10] let's see here, a laptop with 1 main fan that is controlled by the BIOS and not the nvidia driver.... [21:10] by the way when i try now to run xorgsetup I am root and it says only root can configure x [21:10] my system does not get hot at all. [21:10] nvidia recalled those drivers [21:11] Guest79177: you probably need to do it *outside* of X [21:11] so? [21:11] Are you trying to run this from within an X session or are you on a console? [21:11] luvrofcorn: I do have that symlink. [21:12] I gotcha [21:12] I know what you mean [21:13] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:13] oh, one more thing: should I set my processor family to Opteron/Athlon64/Hammer/K8, or Generic x86_64? (I have a Phenom II X4, which is in the K10 family) [21:14] the same again [21:14] only root can configure x [21:14] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:14] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:14] z [21:15] Are you using su or su - (or are you logged in as root completely)? [21:15] iam using su [21:16] ok [21:16] i found it! [21:16] it works [21:16] now xorgsetup open... [21:17] it says if you like x can attempt to probe for your video hardware and write an initial configuraiton file to /etc/x11/xorg.conf would you like to do this now? [21:17] I would say yes. That will probably try the nv driver but you can switch to the proprietary drivers after [21:17] why would you do bother with xorgsetup these days? [21:18] 24 bit true color? [21:18] if you run slack 13, just remove [backup first] your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and start x [21:18] ananke: *I* wouldn't but he can't get any resolution > 640x480 [21:18] 24-bit yes [21:18] how about starting with X -configure? [21:20] i do it! [21:20] i finished xorgsetup [21:20] but i cant understand something, on nvidia settings it says crt display [21:20] wrong... [21:20] model crt-0 [21:20] and i have a samsung lcd 19'' [21:21] kirbo (~Kirby@S010600146cf8bed9.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:21] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:22] any ideas? [21:24] Well I don't know much about xorgsetup. In theory X is supposed to figure this stuff out for you now, but I don't know how reliable is. You can give ananke's advice a shot and move your xorg.conf file so it will be created with `Xorg -configure`, and then try to start X [21:24] You won't be using the nvidia driver when you do that but nvidia-xconfig will use your existing xorg.conf file as a base and just replace the driver lines [21:24] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [21:24] (Or you can do that manually) [21:26] i run nvidia-xconfig [21:26] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:27] i dont know what is going on...on xorg.conf there is no resolution written [21:27] inside the text [21:27] There doesn't need to be if it detects your settings properly [21:27] My resolution is not defined and I get full 1680x1050 [21:28] arno (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:28] I think that the solution to my problem is to break my screen [21:28] lol [21:28] yes... [21:30] Nick change: Dominian -> Dominoman [21:30] Nick change: Dominoman -> Dominian [21:31] I dont know what I have to do...I think that this problem will never fixed... iam going for some sleep cause iam tired! Iam going to search for it again tomorrow! see you guys and much help [21:31] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-122-218.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:31] heya,folks [21:31] heya MLanden, how are you? [21:32] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.29.121) joined ##slackware. [21:32] doin' fines thanks fire|bird...yourself? [21:32] doing great, thank you. The weather was finally nice for a change, 48F and sunny today. \o/ [21:32] Guest79177 (~Greek@cust-253-231.on4.ontelecoms.gr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:33] whoops...fine*.....:P.....:D... owe enough people as is.. [21:33] lol [21:34] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:34] been 'bout 68 here...good weather as well [21:34] if it goes up one degree it'll be sublime [21:34] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:34] oops, did i say that out loud? [21:35] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] yes, yes you did. [21:35] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! 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[21:43] MLanden: not really, no. you? [21:44] Ghost (plasmastar@botters/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [21:44] other than modifying a few scripts in conky(goin' from standard to daylight)...no [21:44] Plasmastar (plasmastar@botters/plasmastar) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:46] cmeow (cmeow@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [21:46] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:48] sec0nd_ (coolkehon@bnc2.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [21:51] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:51] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:52] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.50.198) joined ##slackware. [21:54] nvision (~nvision@g229055046.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:57] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [21:57] DareDevil0 (~Another@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:57] MLanden: Here's my openSUSE machine's desktop: http://omploader.org/vM3Y4cA :P [21:58] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) joined ##slackware. [21:58] Appolus (~adriel@189.123.202.183) joined ##slackware. [21:59] cool [21:59] that took 10 hours to download on dial up ... [21:59] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [21:59] lol [22:00] now what to do.... [22:00] i'm adding multilib support [22:01] hey [22:01] fire|bird, here's mine http://omploader.org/vM3ZhMQ [22:01] my system cant play two sounds at the same time [22:02] for exemplo, youtube and rhythmbox [22:02] juice (1000@67.48.16.231) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:02] MLanden: very nice. [22:02] anyone can help me? [22:02] there it goes... installing alien's packages [22:03] Appolus: why are you listening to music and watchi tv at the same time? (cuz you like to party?) [22:03] kpilar (~60fac2bc@gateway/web/freenode/x-juczcujibyggnxql) left irc: [22:03] hehe [22:04] sometimes i open youtube while im listening to music [22:04] mrselfpwn (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-ecfljmrhymabuggl) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:04] but i pause the music, of course [22:05] mrselfpwn (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-dhlfqiyynwzuhvyj) joined ##slackware. [22:05] DareDevil (~Another@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:07] fire|bird, How's choqok? memory usage-wise? [22:08] MLanden: seems to be very good, no issues with it at all. [22:08] Appolus: If your music app is using OSS as the default instead of alsa then it will likely lock your sound device so youtube can't play it [22:09] idk what is the app used by rhythmbox... [22:10] tsccof (~martin@200-96-84-3.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:10] I've never used rhythmbox but I would assume there should be some configuration screen where you can select an audio engine or something to that effect [22:10] Ah it uses gstreamer [22:11] fire|bird, good to hear....seen a few websites referring to it [22:15] zmisc (~zmisc@pdpc/supporter/student/zmisc) joined ##slackware. [22:16] kpilar (~60fac2bc@gateway/web/freenode/x-ucgaewiybtgmcjui) joined ##slackware. [22:17] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.76.32) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:18] Appolus: are you using Gnome or just rhythmbox on its own? Slack's gstreamer should use alsa by default and Flash seems to use alsa as well AFAIK. [22:18] im using gnome [22:18] weird... massconvert32 didn't do what it was suppose to do [22:18] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) left irc: Ping timeout: 624 seconds [22:18] is there a way to compile GNOME by myself and get it working fine on Slackware? [22:18] If you have gstreamer-properties installed you should be able to set its output to alsa [22:19] tsccof: go to #gsb [22:19] Cann0n: thanks [22:20] argh! [22:20] come oooon lmao [22:20] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:21] btw, if i remove the kde packages, will it affect my system? [22:21] i left out a -d.... [22:21] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) joined ##slackware. [22:21] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [22:22] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Quit: Necrosporus [22:22] Appolus: as long as you don't use KDE apps, no it won't [22:22] tsccof (martin@200-96-84-3.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left ##slackware. [22:23] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:24] nice, it is working now =) thanks [22:25] wich one is better for removing the kde packages: slapt-get or removepkg ? [22:25] removepkg for sure [22:26] dot dot dot [22:27] dash dash [22:27] dash. dot dot dot [22:27] <|Slacker|> dot dash dot [22:27] dot dot dot. dash dash dash. dot dot dot. [22:27] S.O.S [22:27] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:27] The only thing I know in morse code. :D [22:27] psYcker (~psYcker@201.156.108.196) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:29] spider1010 (~spider@ip98-179-3-97.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:30] Action: MLanden had to look up the code chart...see I made an M...:D [22:30] so... i guess thats it [22:31] i got multilib support. time to test it [22:32] nothing to test on... [22:33] i can tell you an easy way to remember the letter V in morse code [22:34] Skywise, beethoven 5th symphony? [22:34] its based on the beginning of it [22:34] Appolus (~adriel@189.123.202.183) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:35] dot dot dot dash [22:36] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-146.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] init[1] (buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [22:44] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [22:45] sinura (~ini@115.69.217.114) joined ##slackware. [22:46] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) left irc: Ping timeout: 624 seconds [22:46] sinura (~ini@115.69.217.114) left irc: Client Quit [22:50] so it's only one extra step when compiling software for compat32 [22:50] easy [22:53] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:53] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-61-114.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Quit: Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug. [22:53] will i need to installed a compat32 version of ATI drivers? [22:54] Cann0n: ati drivers install 32+64bit automatically afaik [22:54] you will need to reinstall them and make sure you have the package with 64 bit as well [22:55] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:55] O.o [22:55] but it's multilib [22:55] nille_ (1000@c-83-233-249-34.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:55] things aren't natively shared [22:55] and you're not compiling drivers from source.. look at ati's binary on their website [22:56] also doesn't multilib tell you about graphics drivers? on the wiki [22:56] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-61-114.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:57] yeah, it installed the xorg drivers for mbultilib seperately from what i use on 64bit [22:58] er I left xorg as is and just reinstalled ati's binary.. well, I guess whatever the convert script did [22:58] I used [23:00] i didn't think you did 64bit [23:00] cbpye (~Administr@c-68-51-162-118.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:03] I did for a month with an ati card [23:04] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [23:04] hmmm [23:06] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:09] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [23:10] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:14] torrents work much better than http when i'm at home... wierd [23:15] wtf is time warner up to? >.> [23:17] Necos: same thing they are always up too... world domination [23:17] lf4 (~KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [23:17] The same thing they do every night. [23:17] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.50.198) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:18] Try to TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!! [23:18] I still say Pinky has a better idea [23:18] lol [23:18] But what are you going to do with a goose and a pair of lederhosen? [23:19] @_@ [23:19] Necos: http is way better than torrents for me and I'm on time warner [23:19] i mean really, when torrent download goes 6 times faster than your best HTTP source, there's something wrong [23:19] j0z (~lhp@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: [23:19] j0z (~lhp@187.59.8.253) joined ##slackware. [23:19] j0z (~lhp@187.59.8.253) left irc: Changing host [23:20] j0z (~lhp@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [23:20] Necos: I can get 70-700kb/s easy http (when my internet is feeling nice) but torrents max out around 20 [23:20] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:20] i was downloading from mirrors.vbi.vt.edu [23:20] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [23:20] which, from work (about 2 mi away from where i live) gets 1-2Mb/s [23:20] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:20] my wget http download was maxing around 120k/s [23:20] although.. re: time warner http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/raelakoira/internet.png [23:21] Necos, burst vs steady. [23:21] torrent is 675 right now [23:21] then 2 days later, speed tested at .04 down .12 up [23:21] it's been steady between 675-775k/s for the last 15 minutes [23:23] vt via wget was telling me 8hrs... torrent is about 1hr 15m [23:23] insert (insert_@187.41.2.16) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [23:23] well, whatever works [23:23] it also annoys me that my upload is so much faster.. I'd rather have good down and crap up [23:23] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [23:23] ah, you're in NY too, that makes a diff [23:23] i'm in los angeles [23:24] and in an apartment complex.. no doubt bandwidth is stretched thin [23:24] most of my neighbors are DSL customers i think... my internet access has been fast since i moved here 5 years ago [23:25] or they just don't use their internet all that often if they're TW customers [23:25] the internet is pretty nice at my mom's.. comcast, yet so much faster than mine [23:25] my apt complex is 15 units lol [23:25] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [23:25] and i'm the only cable customer [23:25] I'm in building 21, each one having 18 apartments I believe.. I think there might be 23? or one or two more [23:26] everyone else has DTV or dish [23:26] only can get twc, verizon (fios I guess), or dialup here [23:26] I bet most people just go with twc [23:26] i'm gonna train pigeons to deliver paper with ones and zero's to a guy named Dan in Salt Lake City [23:26] might be faster than dialup [23:26] or not... worth a try [23:26] Cann0n: pidgeon over ip has been done [23:27] pidgeon over IP or IP over pidgeon? [23:27] alisonken1home: both [23:27] lol [23:28] er.. I meant pigeon over ip [23:28] ip over pidgeon :P [23:28] like.. carrier pigeons and gave them stuff [23:28] ip over smoke-signals [23:28] Nick change: Ghost -> Plasmastar [23:29] rv2733 (rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:31] that'd be fun... until they call the fire dept. 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