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[00:00] <tuxdev> For Great Justice!
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[00:00] <acidtripper> twolf, but you have the console?
[00:00] <twolf> acidtripper: yep :)
[00:01] <acidtripper> here i have like 3 sega genesis, but i dont have controller and ac adapter
[00:01] <twolf> I got brand new controllers for my 64 a few years back
[00:01] <deco> http://i.imgur.com/9CbQ6.jpg
[00:02] <acidtripper> deco: lol and that cat?
[00:02] <acidtripper> i have a hamster here to give him for dinner :P
[00:02] <deco> acidtripper: dunno, it's just cute :P
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[00:05] <acidtripper> its yours or from inet?
[00:05] <deco> acidtripper: internets
[00:05] <deco> reddit
[00:07] <acidtripper> http://gonzalo.dnsalias.org/Fotos/webcam-001.jpg
[00:07] <acidtripper> a good meal for that cat :P
[00:07] <deco> acidtripper: lol
[00:07] <deco> :P
[00:08] <jeev> nasty
[00:08] <acidtripper> lol
[00:09] <AEnima1577> 20 min .5% done
[00:09] <AEnima1577> so can anyone help me setup  mpd
[00:09] <maduser> acidtripper you need a sewer rat
[00:09] <AEnima1577> the mpd chat isnt helping any
[00:10] <twolf> patience grasshopper
[00:10] <maduser> thats a meal your cat would love
[00:10] <maduser> or the rat would love
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[00:10] <acidtripper> lol
[00:11] <acidtripper> it has like 2 o 3 months, it will grow up ;)
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[00:11] <acidtripper> someone there know howto install kwin themes? where to put them?
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[00:12] <acidtripper> couse im tired of  plastik
[00:13] <maduser> you should be able to import them as gziped files through the settings manager
[00:13] <acidtripper> nope
[00:13] <acidtripper> take a look mad and you'll se is not possible
[00:13] <maduser> or thats the splash screen woops
[00:13] <acidtripper> someone there have the same problem that window border get grey sometimes?
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[00:44] <antiwire> this came from a /. link but is really interesting http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2009/11/48444-you-dont-know-jack-about-software-maintenance/fulltext
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[00:58] <antiwire> Hey baby, Our structures have compatible interfaces. Let's initiate a version negotiation session and probe for magic numbers.
[00:58] <spook> lol.
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[01:00] <antiwire> if only it were that easy
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[01:03] <twolf> you'd be surprised
[01:03] <g4tt0> good morning*
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[01:09] <deco> g4tt0: good morning
[01:09] <g4tt0> ^^
[01:11] <deco> g4tt0: do you use kde ?
[01:13] <jeev> deco uses win me
[01:13] <packeteer> i use win mo
[01:13] <packeteer> !
[01:14] <antiwire> ok now that was actually pretty funny
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[01:17] <deco> heh
[01:17] <g4tt0> yes
[01:17] <g4tt0> i use kde^^
[01:17] <g4tt0> KDE: 4.3.3 (KDE 4.3.3)
[01:17] <g4tt0> Demone KDE: $Id: kded.cpp 1031638 2009-10-05 16:59:11Z lunakl $ ^^
[01:18] <deco> g4tt0: it's much better now :P
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[01:19] <g4tt0> yeah is more functional^^
[01:20] <jeev> what's more functional, a broken dick or windows millenium
[01:20] Action: g4tt0 in current 
[01:20] <g4tt0> LoL
[01:21] <earp> using windows ME feels like a kick in the nuts, so not much difference
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[01:28] <deco> woot new amarok can fetch lyrics and album covers again
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[02:08] <fire|bird> hey frullet
[02:08] <dive> hi fire|bird
[02:08] <dive> moning
[02:08] <frullet> fire|bird: hey mate, hows it
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[02:09] <fire|bird> hey dive, how are you?
[02:09] <fire|bird> frullet: great, thanks. you?
[02:09] <frullet> fire|bird: cant complain :)
[02:09] <dive> hungover a bit :-) hows yourself
[02:09] <fire|bird> dive: great, thanks. :)
[02:10] <byteframe> How can I tell if $1 (the first parameter to a bash script) was not issued? [ $1 != "" ] doesn't seem to be what I want.
[02:10] <spook> byteframe: its a -leter
[02:11] <spook> i think its -n or -s
[02:11] <byteframe> spook, come again?
[02:11] <byteframe> Oh ok.
[02:11] <byteframe> -z?
[02:11] <spook> if [ -X $1 ]  format if memory serves
[02:11] <spook> #bash
[02:11] <mancha> -z
[02:12] <byteframe> -z is correct. Thanks.
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[02:14] <mancha> welcome
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[02:20] <jeev> oh. my. god.
[02:20] <jeev> http://www.nahiku.com/baby-back-ribs.jpg
[02:20] <jeev> i think i came.
[02:21] <init[1]> jeev: wtf is that
[02:22] <deco> jeev: i thought it was an insect at first
[02:22] <init[1]> baby ?
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[02:22] <init[1]> human baby?
[02:22] <twolf> I pity the fool
[02:22] <g4tt0> baby dog ^^
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[02:22] <twolf> pig
[02:22] <jeev> piggggggggggggggggggy
[02:22] <g4tt0> LoL
[02:22] <init[1]> duh!
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[02:23] <init[1]> wb slackytude :)
[02:26] <deco> paul allen has Lymphoma now
[02:26] <fire|bird> y0 slackboy
[02:26] <fire|bird> err,
[02:26] <fire|bird> slackytude:
[02:26] <init[1]> :p
[02:26] <fire|bird> hey init[1]
[02:26] <fire|bird> :P
[02:26] <init[1]> fire|bird: yo!
[02:27] <jeev> he got it from owning charter
[02:27] <deco> heh
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[02:40] <init[1]> can any one complete "if and only if"?
[02:40] <init[1]> not a game ,i'm in a puzzle
[02:40] <mancha> what's the puzzle
[02:40] <init[1]> http://mastishk.nitie.net/
[02:41] <mancha> i see no puzzle there
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[02:41] <mancha> just a resgistration page
[02:42] <init[1]> mancha: you have to register then login,to start the puzzle
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[02:43] <mancha> i'm not going to register just to help you. if you want my help do some work: ie paste the puzzle in a place that is SUPER easy for me to access thereby limiting the effort i have to invest to help you
[02:44] <init[1]> mancha: ok,i will imagebin the screenshot,ok? i have to complete the sentence "if and only if"[      ]
[02:45] <init[1]> mancha: http://imagebin.org/71949
[02:46] <mancha> what sorts of answers do they expect?
[02:47] <slackytude> morning
[02:47] <fire|bird> y0 slackytude
[02:47] <init[1]> mancha: logical,
[02:47] <init[1]> mancha: it started of with bruce lee pic
[02:47] <init[1]> with a submit
[02:48] <init[1]> i had to enter 'enter the dragon'
[02:48] <init[1]> to advance to next question
[02:48] <init[1]> its like logical+knowlege you are exposed to
[02:49] <mancha> maybe enter "iff"
[02:50] <init[1]> na i tried that
[02:51] <init[1]> they are clever http://mastishk.nitie.net/ifandif.php ,O byte file :P
[02:54] <mancha> can you click on either "if" ?
[02:54] <init[1]> mancha: locked ,nope
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[03:09] <fire|bird> mancha: and now they're joining en mass. :)
[03:09] <fire|bird> from 8-291 in 0.5 seconds
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[03:12] <dive> what happened?
[03:13] <dive> split?
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[03:13] <fire|bird> dive: yeah
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[03:14] <cteg> is there any reason to not linking sh to ash?
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[03:23] <fire|bird> I wonder how long the dog lasted after this photo: http://i.imgur.com/wT4FQ.jpg
[03:27] <init[1]> fire|bird: can you crack his rebus ? http://imagebin.org/71949
[03:27] <fire|bird> Hmm
[03:27] Action: fire|bird puts on his thinkin' cap.
[03:28] <init[1]> :D
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[03:29] <fire|bird> init[1]: tried "biconditional"
[03:30] <init[1]> iff?
[03:30] <init[1]> fire|bird: is that from wikipedia ?
[03:30] <init[1]> :D
[03:30] <init[1]> its a rebus puzzle
[03:30] <init[1]> http://www.fun-with-words.com/rebus_puzzles_04.html
[03:30] <fire|bird> init[1]: no, not from wikipedia
[03:32] <fire|bird> init[1]: yeah, a local newspaper has those rebus puzzles in it each week.
[03:32] <fire|bird> let me keep thinkin' :P
[03:32] <init[1]> wow,great then you should be an expert by now
[03:32] <init[1]> ;(
[03:32] <init[1]> ;)
[03:32] <fire|bird> haha, I wish I was.
[03:32] <fire|bird> fire|bird is now known as expert|bird
[03:33] <init[1]> in bird poop :P
[03:34] <fire|bird> I think that part of the answer lies in the fact that the two "IF"s are in red.
[03:34] <init[1]> yes,but i'm not getting it
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[03:57] <fire|bird> Time to get going. Later guys. Take care.
[03:58] <fire|bird> init[1]: If you get that figured out, let me know what the answer was.
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[04:02] <Camarade_Tux> rworkman: ha, I see, thanks (wasn't for me)
[04:03] <Camarade_Tux> rworkman: (that was for texlive btw)
[04:04] <Camarade_Tux> PiterPunk: ok, thanks
[04:05] <Camarade_Tux> ah, I got my problem: the interfaces haven't been +1 (eth0 -> eth1, eth1 -> eth2) but only eth0 has moved since eth1 was properly "set" with the udev rul made at install
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[04:06] <earp> init[1]: I figured out the answer for #2
[04:06] <Camarade_Tux> and eth0 wasn't really seen at install and needed an additional driver (wifi) (now the driver is merged)
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[04:06] <Camarade_Tux> and to the rest of the channel, hi :)
[04:07] <tripFantasic> hello
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[04:07] <earp> do you need any hints?
[04:08] <dive> Camarade_Tux, hi, so your eth is fixed now?
[04:09] <Camarade_Tux> dive: well, added an udev rule on yesterday, we'll see how it goes
[04:09] <Camarade_Tux> PiterPunk: btw, when are the udev rules in /etc/udev created? and what creates them?
[04:10] <dive> good question
[04:10] <init[1]> fire|bird: sure :)
[04:11] <Zordrak> morn
[04:11] <dive> moning
[04:12] <dive> I've got builders in and I can sense a sudden power cut imminent
[04:12] <tripFantasic> mornin
[04:12] <earp> init[1]: throw this pimp in google: ajit balakrishnan
[04:13] <earp> that should help a lot
[04:14] <Camarade_Tux> http://port25.technet.com/archive/2009/11/16/microsoft-to-open-source-the-net-micro-framework.aspx :o
[04:15] <Camarade_Tux> and under a true open source licence: apache 2
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[04:18] <Zordrak> anyone have the source of 2.6.31.6 to hand?
[04:19] <Camarade_Tux> doesn't kernel.org have archives?
[04:19] <Zordrak> i meant so you can check something in the config
[04:19] <Camarade_Tux> oh, go on, I have git
[04:19] <Zordrak> someone has suggested High Memory Support has moved or been removed
[04:20] <Zordrak> wanted to check up on it
[04:20] <Zordrak> (blog comment)
[04:20] <Zordrak> should be in "Processor Type and Features"
[04:21] <Camarade_Tux> gonna check against 2.6.32-rc1/2, shouldn't be different
[04:21] <Zordrak> *nod*
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[04:22] <Camarade_Tux> do you know the CONFIG_X name for this option?
[04:22] <Camarade_Tux> ah
[04:23] <Camarade_Tux> it's there but I can't see it and I don't know if it's because of my arch (x86_64) or something else
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[04:23] <Zordrak> hm
[04:25] <Zordrak> its a list comprising HIGHMEM4G, HIGHMEM64G, NOHIMEM
[04:25] <Camarade_Tux> checking out 2.6.29
[04:26] <Zordrak> its there in 29.6
[04:26] <Camarade_Tux> I think I noticed a change too
[04:27] <Zordrak> ahh.. i reckon he might be on x86_64
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[04:28] <Zordrak> yeah.. theres no purpose for highmem in 64
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[04:33] <g4tt0> °  °
[04:34] <godling> that's weird
[04:35] <dive> °_°
[04:35] <earp> it's done that a couple times tonight
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[04:36] <Camarade_Tux> hmmm, I remember seeing this option but that was maybe before going the x64 route (not that long ago)
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[04:36] <godling> when a netsplit occurs, is there a way to find out what server actually split from the network?
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[04:37] <dive> it should say depending on your client
[04:37] <Camarade_Tux> I'm not sure that was a split
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[04:37] <Camarade_Tux> more like a die
[04:37] <Camarade_Tux> *death
[04:37] <dive> hNetsplit kubrick.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net
[04:37] <Camarade_Tux> I haven't seen a split...
[04:38] <Camarade_Tux> let's way for christel :)
[04:38] <dive> hNetsplit over, joins: Camarade_Tuxh
[04:38] <godling> dive: the reason I ask is that my friend is connected to fn from this IP but they are connected to a different server
[04:38] <godling> dive: they received a split message too
[04:38] <Camarade_Tux> dive: yeah, but I haven't seen anything on my end except a timeout...
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[04:39] <Camarade_Tux> I've seen noone quit
[04:39] <dive> Camarade_Tux, that happened to me earlier
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[04:40] <init[1]> ne of our servers just split from the network causing ~7,000 people to reconnect.  We're investigating the cause now, sorry for the noise!
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[04:40] <godling> init[1]: yes, everyone got the wall message thanks
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[04:40] <godling> :P
[04:40] <init[1]> godling: oh ;D
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[04:41] <dive> global notice to all
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[04:41] <init[1]> really nice to see,how polite the freenode staff is :)
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[04:41] <turkeyshoot> i mounted a part and when i try to copy a folder as root to it, i get a" cannot create directory: operation not permitted"
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[04:41] <turkeyshoot> permissions are good
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[04:42] <turkeyshoot> whats it problem?
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[04:42] <init[1]> turkeyshoot: what fs is this partition ?
[04:42] <turkeyshoot> ntfs
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[04:42] <init[1]> s/fs/fs type/
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[04:42] <init[1]> no wonder :P
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[04:43] <turkeyshoot> lol, its mounted so should i be able to use it like any other part of the fs now?
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[04:43] <turkeyshoot> i can read from it
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[04:45] <turkeyshoot> root has read and write perms, so i dont see the prob
[04:45] <dive> the problem is because you probably mounted it using ntfs rather than ntfs-3g or whatever it's called
[04:46] <turkeyshoot> so just mount it as that type?
[04:46] <dive> yes but I don't recall if it's ntfs-3g or ntfs3g
[04:46] <Camarade_Tux> ntfs is read-only
[04:46] <turkeyshoot> ill figure it out, thanx
[04:47] <turkeyshoot> ic
[04:47] <Camarade_Tux> ntfs-2g is read-write
[04:47] <Camarade_Tux> bah
[04:47] <init[1]> there seems to be some problem with http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0 ,not updates bout openssl in /patch
[04:47] <Camarade_Tux> ntfs-3g
[04:47] <turkeyshoot> ubuntu would have just took care of that for you eh? ive been using that for quite awhile
[04:47] <Camarade_Tux> and you can use "mount -t ntfs-3g" or use the "ntfs-3g" program
[04:47] <init[1]> turkeyshoot: then use Ubu[nut]
[04:47] <godling> fail troll fails
[04:47] <Camarade_Tux> you can have mount use ntfs-3g, can't remember how though
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[04:48] <turkeyshoot> i can't get it working! i encrypted it with luks and now its being a bitch
[04:48] <init[1]> turkeyshoot: it better not to use MS derived fs for linux ,
[04:48] <dive> indeed
[04:48] <turkeyshoot> i have windows on here too for doing XNA on my 360
[04:48] <init[1]> when in rome live like people in rom
[04:48] <init[1]> rome
[04:48] <init[1]> :P
[04:48] <turkeyshoot> trying it in VMware doesnt work so well
[04:49] <init[1]> turkeyshoot: what are you trying out in vmware?
[04:49] <turkeyshoot> visual studios and connect to my 360 with it
[04:49] <earp> count the number in the second red word, how would romans write it?
[04:50] <turkeyshoot> it couldn't find the 360 when i entered its little code though
[04:50] <init[1]> has any one upgraded the openssl thingy? from OSUOSL?
[04:50] <dive> not yet
[04:50] <init[1]> that server is kinda late to update the patches
[04:50] <init[1]> well i did pay though, i shouldn't be complaining :D
[04:51] <Camarade_Tux> turkeyshoot: net probably wasn't set up properly in vmware
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[04:53] <init[1]> Camarade_Tux: what mirror do you use for slackpkg?
[04:54] <turkeyshoot> Camarade_Tux, interesting, i couldnt get it too work so i just ended up making a windows install just for XNA
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[04:55] <turkeyshoot> but im banned now though, and microsoft says they are coming to my house to take the copper from my walls :(
[04:55] <dive> osuosl seems to be ok now
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[04:56] <dive> anyone using FF 3.5.5 and having no luck with add-ons updates?
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[04:56] <Zordrak> all well here
[04:56] <dive> seems months since I upped but no compatible addonds
[04:56] <Camarade_Tux> init[1]: local :D (which I rsync with slackware.no when I'm not filtered for rsync...)
[04:57] <Camarade_Tux> turkeyshoot: he :)
[04:57] <init[1]> Camarade_Tux: :(
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[04:58] <init[1]> don't know why,OSUOSL mirror has put up the new openssl in /patch,and changelog also has changed,but slackpkg says No changes found
[04:58] <init[1]> this is first time i'm running slackpkg for openssl upgrade ,'slackpkg update' was done weeks ago
[04:58] <dive> do slackpkg update again
[04:58] <Zordrak> >.<
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[04:59] <tripFantasic> is sbo site active yet?
[04:59] <init[1]> dive: yes that was done
[04:59] <dive> tripFantasic, huh?
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[04:59] <init[1]> No changes in ChangeLog.txt between your last update and now. Do you really want to download all other files (y/N)?
[04:59] <init[1]> ^
[04:59] <tripFantasic> has sbo site become active again after 13 was released?
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[04:59] <dive> init[1], I just did update and upgrade-all and it found openssl + solibs
[04:59] <dive> tripFantasic, yes for a long time
[04:59] <tripFantasic> k
[05:00] <init[1]> dive: mirror?
[05:00] <dive> init[1], you haven't blacklisted it and forgotten?
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[05:00] <dive> osuosl
[05:00] <tripFantasic> dive, have any slack13 pkgs been updated yet?
[05:00] <init[1]> hmm,use the same,
[05:00] <dive> tripFantasic, all/most 12.2 packages are updated for 13.0 yes
[05:00] <tripFantasic> ok
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[05:05] <init[1]> dive: does it have any thing do with my time zone ?
[05:05] <init[1]> really strage,
[05:05] <dive> don't see how - either the files are on the server or they aren't afaik
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[05:06] <dive> init[1], what is the _exact_ mirror address you are using?
[05:06] <init[1]> dive: its has worked for previous upgrades
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[05:06] <init[1]> s/its/it/
[05:06] <dive> #we are talking 13.0 right?
[05:07] <dive> I am anyway
[05:07] <init[1]> i will paste it
[05:07] <init[1]> huh! yea
[05:07] <dive> ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/
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[05:08] <dive> I have noticed that osuosl seems slower than it was some months back
[05:08] <init[1]> http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/
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[05:09] <dive> init[1], well try mine - ftp
[05:09] <init[1]> i don't think ftp / http has any diff etiher
[05:09] <init[1]> oh
[05:11] <dive> I do wonder if the growing use of osuosl is to blame for the slowdown? It's not in the mirror list by default I don't think
[05:12] <dive> probably most of us in here use it though
[05:13] <init[1]> yea i remember adding it,
[05:15] <init[1]> \o/
[05:16] <init[1]> dive ,though i didn't change the mirror,i did force 'to dowload all file'
[05:16] <init[1]> then it work,
[05:16] <init[1]> worked
[05:16] <dive> hmm
[05:16] <init[1]> duh,strange,
[05:16] <init[1]> well,i'm changing to ftp now
[05:16] <dive> perhaps an aborted update in the past
[05:16] <init[1]> may be,
[05:17] <dive> step away from the ^C
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[05:17] <dive> ;-)
[05:17] <init[1]> crap ERROR - Package not installed! Not found error!
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[05:17] <init[1]> openssl-0.9.8k-i486-3_slack13.0.txz:	Not found
[05:17] <init[1]> openssl-solibs-0.9.8k-i486-3_slack13.0.txz:	Not found
[05:17] <godling> OH NO
[05:17] <godling> I guess you'd better install it. :P
[05:19] <dive> hard to install if it downloaded and it can't be found
[05:21] <init[1]> dive: my bad,i just edited s/http/ftp/ instead of exact link
[05:21] <init[1]> godling: :P
[05:21] <init[1]> btw,mozilla update 3.5.5 is new ?
[05:21] <init[1]> i guess so, i didn't get any mail regarding that
[05:21] <dive> yeah, but like I mentioned earlier you may have problems finding updated addons
[05:21] <init[1]> mozilla-firefox
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[05:22] <init[1]> hm,
[05:22] <godling> :)
[05:22] <dive> I'm sticking to 3.5 on this laptop, desktop has 3.5.5 though but my favourite addons don't work with it
[05:23] <dive> er 3.5.3 on laptop
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[05:23] <init[1]> dive: can you list your addons ? i don't use more than 'ad block and stumble upon'
[05:24] <dive> fox clocks, some tab tweaks, download tweaks... forget
[05:24] <dive> adblock
[05:25] <init[1]> will adblock fail?
[05:25] <GammelSokk> mine \ NoPE
[05:25] <init[1]> its kinda cool addon
[05:25] <dive> firebug, nosquint, autofill
[05:25] <godling> I like NoScript.
[05:25] <dive> i think adblock works
[05:26] <dive> I can't get on the other PC right now to check cos builders have dumped my oven in front of it
[05:26] <init[1]> :) np,that just fine
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[05:26] <godling> Is builder a euphemism?
[05:27] <init[1]> godling: greasemonkey?
[05:27] <dive> godling, no I mean I have someone putting new bathroom suite in, and electricians rewiring my kitchen
[05:28] <godling> moneybags
[05:28] <dive> i wish
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[05:30] <Camarade_Tux> dive: connect remotely! :D
[05:31] <dive> hmmm true
[05:31] <dive> I also cba
[05:31] <godling> from your speech patterns I detect that you are a limey
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[05:31] <dive> indeed
[05:31] <Camarade_Tux>  ?
[05:32] <godling> dive: Widdecombe is a daft tart.
[05:32] <dive> limey = english
[05:32] <Camarade_Tux> ok :)
[05:32] <dive> comes from the eating of limes in the navy to stop scurvy
[05:32] <g4tt0> hello CtrlAltCa
[05:32] <Camarade_Tux> he ;)
[05:32] <CtrlAltCa> hi g4tt0 :)
[05:33] <godling> so thsi channel is logged, right?
[05:33] <dive> yep
[05:33] <godling> where are the public logs?
[05:33] <dive> in /topic
[05:33] <Camarade_Tux> on the internet :)
[05:33] <Zordrak> freenodeslack.blogspot.com
[05:34] <godling> dive: I would think that the topic character limit wouldn't allow for channel logging
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[05:35] <Zordrak> TBH I would like to see all the URLs in the topic just lited on *one* page, linked from the topic
[05:35] <dive> would be useful
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[05:37] <Googie> hi
[05:38] <dive> moning
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[05:38] <Googie> why is Qt in recent slackware64-current compiled without STL compatibility while it used to be compiled with it since forever?
[05:38] <Googie> anybody knows reason?
[05:39] <Googie> it breaks my current application development, but I haven't time to test how many other applications won't compile without it
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[05:50] <init[1]> Googie: if feel so you can recompile it http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/source/l/qt/ check out here
[05:50] <packeteer> have u checked the changelogs?
[05:50] <packeteer> maybe there was a reason
[05:51] <MooKimchi> anyone happen to want some slackware packages?  i have freeciv and audacity
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[05:51] <Zordrak> MooKimchi: http://slacbuilds.org
[05:51] <init[1]> :D
[05:51] <Zordrak> MooKimchi: http://slackbuilds.org
[05:52] <MooKimchi> Zordrak, i am aware of SBo
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[05:52] <init[1]> Googie: line 101 http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/source/l/qt/qt.SlackBuild
[05:53] <Zordrak> then youll know that audacity is already there.. if you want to submit a script for freeciv then do so
[05:53] <init[1]> MooKimchi: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=audacity
[05:53] <MooKimchi> init[1], no thanks, i know it's there
[05:53] <MooKimchi> i said packages, not slack build scripts
[05:53] <init[1]> MooKimchi: ok,so why mention it here?
[05:53] <Camarade_Tux> freeciv, isn't there already a slackbuild?
[05:53] <MooKimchi> init[1], because i feel like it?
[05:53] <packeteer> can anybody confirm if a 2.6.31 kernel would run on slack 12.2 ?
[05:54] <MooKimchi> packeteer, i can
[05:54] <MooKimchi> Linux vaio 2.6.31.6-slap #2 SMP Sat Nov 14 20:59:39 KST 2009 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T5500  @ 1.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
[05:54] <MooKimchi> er dangit i thought you said slack 13.0
[05:54] <Camarade_Tux> hmmm
[05:54] <Zordrak> MooKimchi: 3rd Party Packages are not recommended to anyone
[05:54] <packeteer> yeah, 134 should be fine with it
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[05:54] <MooKimchi> Zordrak, we recommend rworkman and alienBOB 's repositories all the time, and those repositories are not official by their own admission
[05:54] <packeteer> err, i meant 13
[05:54] <Camarade_Tux> 12.2, not sure, but you can try (everybody always back kernels up, right?)
[05:54] <packeteer> nm, i'll suck it and see
[05:55] <packeteer> :)
[05:55] <Zordrak> MooKimchi: yes.. because alongside every pkg is a script
[05:55] <packeteer> it's a paravirt kernel for my vps
[05:55] <Camarade_Tux> there's a slackbuild for freeciv but only for 12.2 ;-)
[05:55] <MooKimchi> Zordrak, and i used the scripts from SBo
[05:55] <Camarade_Tux> porting shouldn't be too hard ;-)
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[05:55] <MooKimchi> making a 12.2 script 13.0 isn't hard, usually all you need is to add the x86_64 arch part and then it is nice to specify PKG_TYPE (iirc) for tgz/txz
[05:56] <Zordrak> MooKimchi: so.. what *exactly* are you offering? Your processor time?
[05:56] <MooKimchi> yep
[05:56] <godling> MooKimchi: maybe you hid rootkits in the packages
[05:56] <godling> o_O
[05:56] <sahk0> MooKimchi, try folding@home or something. they'd appreciate it more
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[05:58] <MooKimchi> sahk0, i offer then regardless of who appreciates them or not
[05:58] <godling> Why oh why does SecuROM suck so hard?
[05:58] <MooKimchi> godling, that opportunity exists at all times, not just from "3rd party sources"
[05:58] <packeteer> 2.6.31 paravirt seems to work fine :)
[05:59] <godling> MooKimchi: What's your point?
[05:59] <godling> MooKimchi: You seem very confrontational, like you came here to pick a fight. :P
[05:59] <MooKimchi> what's everyone's point?  i simply try to do a nice thing and offer people my time and effort and people freak out
[05:59] <MooKimchi> no, i just offered packages, and then everyone pounced
[06:00] <Zordrak> MooKimchi: becaiuse what youre offering is completely useless and simultaneously potentially dangerous
[06:00] <godling> beware of strangers bearing gifts
[06:00] <MooKimchi> Zordrak, if what i am offering is useless, so is rworkman and alienBOB
[06:00] <Zordrak> MooKimchi: no.. its not
[06:00] <MooKimchi> what is the difference?
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[06:00] <init[1]> MooKimchi: we trust them
[06:00] <Zordrak> MooKimchi: they write scripts.. offer the scripts.. and build a pkg to put next to them
[06:01] <sahk0> MooKimchi, then set up a site, and upload your packages. spam them all over the internet if you wish. who's stopping you?
[06:01] <Zordrak> MooKimchi: you are offering a pkg you built from SBo scripts.. just like i could do with 4 seconds and sbopkg
[06:01] <sahk0> do you need someones blessing?
[06:01] <MooKimchi> init[1], you do now.  you may not tomorow.
[06:01] <init[1]> MooKimchi: i don't think so,they have thier base on it
[06:01] <init[1]> s/their/
[06:02] <MooKimchi> Zordrak, history has shown that regardless of what they do or don't hide, there could be problems
[06:02] <Camarade_Tux> MooKimchi: the slackware culture says we don't usually trust most packages
[06:02] <MooKimchi> i think what is funny is that i simply offer something nice and people freak out
[06:02] <MooKimchi> a simple "no thank you" would've sufficed
[06:02] <mancha> i have an idea, everyone stop trusting part of pat's dev team and trust MooKimchi instead
[06:02] <Camarade_Tux> MooKimchi: nope, not freaking out
[06:02] <Zordrak> MooKimchi: forget the safety issue.. youre still offering something that is *completely* useless-
[06:02] <MooKimchi> or you could've simply not responded
[06:03] <MooKimchi> Zordrak, based on what? your own opinion?  what, did you ask 100 slackware users if they would like to have freeciv packages?
[06:03] <sahk0> MooKimchi, can you answer my question please?
[06:03] <Zordrak> Hey everyone.. how would you like a free Fart in an Envelope delivered to you?
[06:03] <godling> I think MooKimchi is trolling now.
[06:03] <sahk0> MooKimchi, then set up a site, and upload your packages. spam them all over the internet if you wish. who's stopping you? do you need someones blessing? why are you telling us?
[06:03] <MooKimchi> mancha, now you're just being silly
[06:03] <MooKimchi> godling, because i'm not letting you guys verbally abuse me?  please....
[06:03] <MooKimchi> much less what's funny is you don't know who i am
[06:03] <mancha> it's late at night for me i'm allowed silliness
[06:03] <godling> Please don't lump me in with "you guys"
[06:04] <MooKimchi> i am someone you know but because of my nickname you think you don't know me
[06:04] <godling> No offense, everyone.
[06:04] <Zordrak> MooKimchi: I would tell anyone the same thing.
[06:04] <MooKimchi> Zordrak, so that means that you enjoy being rude to everyone instead of just one person?  8-)
[06:05] <MooKimchi> what, do i have to link my nicknames so that you guys think you know me?
[06:05] <MooKimchi> please, this is IRC.  for all you know i could be Al Gore and there'd be absolutely no way for you to verify who i am
[06:05] <Zordrak> MooKimchi: No. I'm simply telling you the same as I would tell anyone. Offering your own build of an SBo-available package on IRC is useless, dangerous and a waste of time.
[06:05] <Googie> init[1]: yes, I just downloaded slackbuild of qt and I'm compiling it by myself, but I don't see "-no-stl" in this script and the default is to use -stl
[06:05] <sahk0> lets see how ignore works on xchat
[06:05] <Googie> init[1]: I wonder how is it possible :/
[06:06] <Zordrak> Googie: check the config log
[06:06] <godling> or just do ./configure --help :)
[06:06] <MooKimchi> Zordrak, but what if perchance people all the sudden like my packages?  at that point you're equating fame with trustworthyness, which is a huge mistake regardless of who it is
[06:07] <godling> he used the word perchance, you know he's an asshat
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[06:07] <godling> that sells it
[06:07] <MooKimchi> godling, you are not making any sense
[06:07] <Googie> Zordrak: I can't find config.log generated by slackbuild :/
[06:08] <Googie> I found /tmp/qt.... but there's no config.log in there :/
[06:08] <init[1]> MooKimchi: fame = function(trust)
[06:08] <Googie> neither in its subdirectories
[06:08] <MooKimchi> even then, what if (example) someone hacked patrick's nickserv and posed as him?  we've had examples of such trust breakage in the past.  do i have to mention the time we almost had the channel taken over by someone we thought was trustworthy?
[06:08] <sahk0> the xchat ignore system sucks
[06:08] <godling> MooKimchi: Try thinking with your head instead of your ass, and you'll get it. :P
[06:08] <Zordrak> MooKimchi: Youve missed the point entirely. SCRIPTS are welcomed. Packages accompanying them are sometimes useful. Packages with no scripts.. or from already-available scripts are not.
[06:08] <godling> s/ignore system//
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[06:08] <godling> sahk0: ^^
[06:09] <init[1]> sahk0: irssi ?
[06:09] <sahk0> godling, yeah, im on parted magic
[06:09] <godling> xchat ate my sister
[06:09] <MooKimchi> Zordrak, who are you to tell us what is welcomed?  rworkman's website as well as alienBOB's include both and no one has cried
[06:09] <alisonken1noc> we know them, though, that's the difference
[06:09] <godling> MooKimchi: who is "us"?
[06:09] <MooKimchi> and i haven't even furnished the link to the website yet because i am (or at least was) trying to hide my identity so that i could change nicknames on IRC
[06:10] <Zordrak> MooKimchi: are you retarded or just being intentionally idiotic?
[06:10] <MooKimchi> but as usual human ignorance prevents me
[06:10] <init[1]> MooKimchi: you came from some planet whole of a sudden offering alien packages ?
[06:10] <MooKimchi> and you could've either said "no thanks" or said nothing at all
[06:10] <Zordrak> MooKimchi: rworkman's website as well as alienBOB's include ----> both <----
[06:10] <godling> TwinReverb: why?
[06:10] <MooKimchi> this is how you make newbies to this channel feel like they are not welcomed
[06:11] <TwinReverb> godling: think about it for a minute
[06:11] <sahk0> newbies != trolls
[06:11] <godling> TwinReverb: I give up.
[06:11] <MooKimchi> i've been using slackware since version 9
[06:11] <init[1]> TwinReverb: godling +b?
[06:11] <MooKimchi> you all know who i am, i'm just not revealing it
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[06:12] <godling> TwinReverb: Did I call your mom a bad name in a past life?
[06:12] <init[1]> MooKimchi: if you had done that b4 we would have welcomed you
[06:12] <MooKimchi> init[1], bull
[06:12] <godling> How can you say one way or the other? This is a ridiculous conversation.
[06:12] <MooKimchi> because either way just because you see a familiar irc nickname doesn't mean the person behind it is trustworthy
[06:13] <MooKimchi> exactly
[06:13] <init[1]> 16:49 < MooKimchi> you all know who i am, i'm just not revealing it
[06:13] <godling> I think MooKimchi came here with an agenda to prove something to himself.
[06:13] <Zordrak> or simply is seeking attention
[06:13] <MooKimchi> nope, i came here wanting to be nice until people took a dump on me
[06:13] <godling> I don't think it's very reputable to toy with people just because the mood hits you, MooKimchi.
[06:14] <packeteer> lotta h8 here tonight
[06:14] <godling> apparently
[06:14] <packeteer> where's the <3 ?
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[06:14] <ananke> slugfest galore this morning
[06:14] <godling> TwinReverb: So are you going to tell me why you banned me from offtopic or do you want me to keep guessing?
[06:15] <godling> because afaik I said nothing inflammatory at all in that channel
[06:15] <TwinReverb> godling: because you insulted someone from ##slackofftopic and i wasn't going to let you spread your hate into my channel
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[06:15] <TwinReverb> think about it
[06:15] <godling> no, it's ok. you win
[06:15] <godling> :)
[06:16] <MooKimchi> the answer is staring you in the face
[06:16] <godling> this is really juvenile
[06:16] <MooKimchi> heaven forbid i should want to change my nickname so that i can start my website over
[06:16] <MooKimchi> was going to go with a new nick on the server, new layout
[06:16] <godling> some people have real problems
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[06:17] <init[1]> quiznos is that you ?
[06:17] <shyko> hello slackworld!
[06:17] <Zordrak> init[1]: ++
[06:17] <init[1]> :D
[06:17] <Zordrak> MooKimchi == TwinReverb
[06:17] <MooKimchi> bingo
[06:18] <godling> I figured that out already. I don't care. You're being an ass. :P
[06:18] <Camarade_Tux> ok, let's ALL stop
[06:19] <init[1]> hi shyko :)
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[06:19] <Camarade_Tux> TwinReverb: you know we don't trust binary packages besides offficial's and from the team, right?
[06:19] <Zordrak> Let me qualify that...... unless it is provided alongside the script that built it
[06:20] <Zordrak> well.. not trust.. but welcome
[06:20] <MooKimchi> i've had slackware packages for freeciv and bibletime for aeons and no one complained.  my scripts all come from SBo
[06:21] <MooKimchi> the reason i don't port 12.2 scripts to 13.0 and submit them is because i am not going to accept responsibility of being sole slackbuild maintainer for those if my schedule and family prevents me from being 100% reliable in their upkeep
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[06:21] <sahk0> kik
[06:21] <sahk0> sorry i meant lol
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[06:22] <mancha> MooKimchi what would you like the end result of this conversation to be?
[06:22] <init[1]> wb The-Croupier
[06:22] <MooKimchi> there didn't need to be a conversation so we've passed that point
[06:22] <Camarade_Tux> MooKimchi: not like it was hard to maintain a slackbuild, and for a program not a library
[06:22] <MooKimchi> much less i was trying to be all 2600 about my nickname change and i totally failed at that regard 8-)
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[06:22] <godling> you just fail
[06:22] <godling> :P
[06:22] <MooKimchi> Camarade_Tux, i know but if that were the case where are the build scripts for 13.0 for some of those?  8-)
[06:22] <init[1]> MooKimchi: nick name is your (TM)
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[06:23] <mancha> look lots of people trust 3rd party binaries (cf linuxpackages.net). some don't, however, so deal. :)
[06:24] <MooKimchi> if i couldn't handle disrespect or insult i would not be alive right now 8-)  i receive a lot of it but i am die hard into principles
[06:24] <MooKimchi> ok nevermind i'll get off my soap box now
[06:24] <dive> MooKimchi, if you find you can no longer maintain a SB there will usually be someone who can take over
[06:24] <godling> you handle an insult by banning someone from a channel
[06:25] <godling> that's definitely second-third grade diplomacy right there
[06:25] <MooKimchi> dive, but that is disrespectful to slackware imho
[06:25] <MooKimchi> godling, hey that's the rules of the channel.  so deal 8-)
[06:25] <dive> why?
[06:25] <mancha> some people install binary blobs willy nilly (acroread, vmware, nvidia/ati drivers, etc). some avoid them like the plague...
[06:25] <MooKimchi> you're unbanned anyways
[06:25] <Zordrak> MooKimchi: put your script(s) somewhere else. EG I have scripts for the whole pacemaker stack.. but havent yet made them perfectly SBo ready.. so i put the scripts on my blog and anyone whe cares enough to google for them will find them... but im not gonna come in here offering out packages for them
[06:26] <MooKimchi> Zordrak, why do i seriously have to copy what is already on SBo?  i mean, SBo is cool and all but i was hoping not to become an SBo mirror
[06:26] <Zordrak> i could put pkgs there if i wanted.. but without the scripts i would not just dump out the packages
[06:26] <MooKimchi> i mean, i specify that outright...
[06:26] <godling> MooKimchi: it's ok, I've already taken my ball and gone home.
[06:26] <dive> Zordrak, same with some of mine, where for ex. I have a script to build from svn or just a newer package than included in slack
[06:26] <MooKimchi> godling, were you in an accident?  8-)
[06:26] <dive> anyway packages = more ftp space used
[06:27] <Zordrak> MooKimchi: then there remains no point.. all you have to do is change sbopkg to point at 12.2 and i could have freeciv faster than i could pull a full pkg from you
[06:27] <Camarade_Tux> MooKimchi: just because 13 isn't that old and everything hasn't been updated (there are tons of slackbuilds), but *most* have been
[06:27] <MooKimchi> Zordrak, not everyone has a fast machine for compiling
[06:27] <Camarade_Tux> MooKimchi: and what if the SB maintainer doesn't run 13?
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[06:27] <MooKimchi> the proliferation of netbooks points to a need to make some stuff for others
[06:27] <Zordrak> MooKimchi: Which brings us full circle.. you,re better off offering your CPU to folding@home
[06:27] <mancha> i think it's perfectly fine for you to offer your packages. let people use them if they so choose...what i guess i feel is unneeded is evangelizing about it
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[06:28] <Camarade_Tux> netbooks are ok to compile on
[06:28] <Camarade_Tux> heck, I compile kernels on them
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[06:28] <godling> MooKimchi: An accident?
[06:28] <MooKimchi> Camarade_Tux, then offer the modded build script (but 12.2 build scripts normally work on slackware 13, and with a known technique (i.e. ARCH=x86_64 ./foo.SlackBuild) on Slackware 64)
[06:28] <MooKimchi> godling, you have only one ball
[06:28] <mancha> did you all read microsoft's pathetic security bulletin re: latest zero day on win7?
[06:29] <MooKimchi> mancha, link?
[06:29] <godling> MooKimchi: yeah, I lost the other one inside your mom
[06:29] <mancha> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/977544.mspx
[06:29] <godling> :P
[06:29] <MooKimchi> godling, echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/godling/desperate
[06:29] <godling> yeah, that's it
[06:30] <godling> it's not that I don't care enough to divest energy into this pointless squabble :P
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[06:30] <mancha> "Microsoft is concerned that this new report of a vulnerability was not responsibly disclosed, potentially putting computer users at risk."
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[06:30] <godling> mancha: HAH
[06:31] <godling> Microsoft and responsibility are two words that don't sound right in the same sentence.
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[06:31] <ananke> godling: 'responsibility' in that sentence doesn't refer to microsoft, but to the disclosing party
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[06:32] <godling> ananke: quiet, you
[06:32] <ananke> godling: you seem to be in a frisky mood this morning
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[06:33] <ananke> i won't interfere with your slugfest, sorry
[06:33] <godling> that was a joking "quiet, you"
[06:33] <godling> man
[06:33] <mancha> after msft announced a critical vulnerability that they won't patch in XP and 2000 (though both are still in the maintenance window), i think they waive all right to any moral high ground
[06:33] <mancha> they should be thankful the sploit was disclosed at all instead of packaged into a virus
[06:33] <MooKimchi> they had moral high ground?
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[06:35] <mancha> maybe "act as if they had" should be inserted there somewhere...
[06:35] <Zordrak> i hate you red hat you bastards... how am i supposed to tell what version anything is when you locgk the bloody numbers and backport everything ARGH
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[06:44] <shyko> which charset you guys r using in Slack?
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[06:56] <slava_dp> o/
[06:57] <shyko> \O
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[07:00] <godling> Does Firefox regularly crap out for anyone else while using Flash?
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[07:03] <tank-man> yea, flash sucks
[07:03] <init[1]> godling: fullscreen?
[07:03] <Zordrak> godling: turn off hardware accel
[07:03] <init[1]> disable gfx accelar..
[07:03] <init[1]> foof
[07:04] <init[1]> 1 sec diff :-D
[07:04] <Zordrak> 3 on minte
[07:04] <Zordrak> *mine
[07:05] <MadSlacker> 4 in here ;)
[07:05] <init[1]> hm,may coz i'm on a slow connection
[07:05] <godling> not just fullscreen
[07:05] <Zordrak> i usually go to konqueror for flash
[07:05] <init[1]> Zordrak: 17:40 < init[1]> godling: fullscreen?
[07:05] <init[1]> 17:41 < Zordrak> godling: turn off hardware accel
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[07:05] <mancha> speaking of flash, how's gnash coming along?
[07:05] <init[1]> 17:41 < init[1]> disable gfx accelar..
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[07:06] <mancha> do we have an echo-bot in here?
[07:06] <init[1]> mancha: thre is some problem with sound,
[07:06] <godling> when I have firefox open and start virtualbox firefox hangs if I have some flash thing open
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[07:06] <mancha> init[1] re-paste previous scroll, i like it
[07:07] <init[1]> mancha: i'm not an idiot :P
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[07:07] <init[1]> slackboy wouldn't like it
[07:07] <mancha> darn, it was so enjoyable
[07:07] <init[1]> 17:41 < Zordrak> godling: turn off hardware accel
[07:07] <init[1]> 17:41 < init[1]> disable gfx accelar..
[07:07] <init[1]> mancha: happy?
[07:07] <init[1]> :P
[07:08] <mancha> <init[1]> mancha: i'm not an idiot :P <-- willing to reconsider that assertion?
[07:08] <init[1]> well,if i don't do that,it might have sound rude!,
[07:09] <init[1]> but i didn't mean i'm an idiot with ':P'
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[07:11] Action: init[1] time for a nap ,cya
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[07:17] <Zordrak> buggery balls.
[07:18] <Zordrak> i think ive just found myself some more work. In setting up failover NFS i neglected to add portmap and statd to the start/stop service stack
[07:18] <Zordrak> and it seems like its going to matter
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[07:28] <Zordrak> does anyone know anything about nfsv4 + slack? it seems like the kernel is configured for it.. but theres no idmapd service in slack?
[07:29] <Zordrak> i cant be sure if slack officially supports v4 or not
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[07:32] <gar0t0> good morning everyoneeeeee
[07:32] <Zordrak> also i dont know what the deal is with sm-notify.. its in the pkg.. but not called by the rc.nfsd
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[07:48] <Zordrak> WTF? nfsv4 server support in kernel.. but not nfsv4 client support?!
[07:50] <Zordrak> && lockd=m, lockd_v4=y ??
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[07:58] <zoran119> anyone know how do i add the current track to a playlist in ncmpcpp (the playlist already exists)?
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[08:00] <metrofox> hi there!
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[08:07] <Zordrak> ok.. does anyone know anything about lockd leaving userland and entering the kernel
[08:10] <init[1]> #linux ?
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[08:11] <Zordrak> init[1]: im trying to ork this out in the context of slackware
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[08:13] <init[1]> ah :)
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[08:21] <Zordrak> ugh.. these damn switches dont support jumbo frames
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[08:32] <zmyrgel> hmm, still can't compile 32-bit wine
[08:32] <metrofox> zmyrgel: why?
[08:33] <zmyrgel> I have reinstalled X packages and re-did massconvert but still get configure error that no X dev files found
[08:33] <zmyrgel> I'm trying to compile alienBob's slackbuild
[08:33] <metrofox> zmyrgel: did you reinstall all packages? or you still miss one?
[08:34] <zmyrgel> upgradepkg *-compat32/*.t?z
[08:35] <zmyrgel> and passed --reinstall flag too
[08:35] <metrofox> zmyrgel: the alienBOB's slackbuild should work without any modifies :)
[08:35] <zmyrgel> and pkgtool lists both the compat package and 64-bit
[08:36] <zmyrgel> metrofox: I haven't touched the slackbuild
[08:36] <metrofox> ah
[08:37] <metrofox> yeah I read better :)
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[08:38] <zmyrgel> I'm kinda at loss with this as I don't know what to try
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[08:41] <metrofox> zmyrgel: are you trying to compile wine undera 64bit system?
[08:41] <metrofox> *under a
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[08:43] <zmyrgel> metrofox: yes
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[08:46] <metrofox> zmyrgel: http://wiki.winehq.org/Wine64
[08:47] <metrofox> there are other useful links... I can't find them atm :)
[08:47] <zmyrgel> metrofox: that doesn't help as I'm trying to get 32-bit wine compiled on 64-bit system
[08:48] <zmyrgel> 64-bit wine is quite useless
[08:48] <metrofox> zmyrgel: I should have the 32 binary emulation
[08:48] <metrofox> have you installed those packages?
[08:49] <zmyrgel> yes, I have installed multilib versions for compiler etc and then installed the compat packages
[08:49] <zmyrgel> for some reason the configure script can't locate X
[08:50] <adamk_> The build on slackbuilds.org did work straight away for me on slackware64.  I haven't tried alienBOB's build.  Didn't realize he had one till just now.
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[08:52] <zmyrgel> adamk_: same think on slackbuils version
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[09:16] <hiptobecubic> Has anyone seen or tried flash 10.1 yet? There is no linux release is there?
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[09:16] <hiptobecubic> oh it is :D
[09:16] <spook> lol.
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[09:17] <hiptobecubic> oh no, is it 32bit only?
[09:17] <spook> most likely
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[09:17] <alisonken1noc> have to go to adobe labs to find 64-bit
[09:18] <init[1]> hiptobecubic: tired gnash? ,i would prefer it but youtube (flv) doesn't produce sound
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[09:18] <hiptobecubic> init[1], well thats pretty useless then.
[09:18] <init[1]> yea,:d
[09:19] <hiptobecubic> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html   i'm here, but i only see one linux blob and it's 32bit
[09:20] <init[1]> hiptobecubic: i have question,regardin qemu,can't user mode emulation be used to launch 32bit firefox?
[09:21] <hiptobecubic> init[1], i have no idea.
[09:21] <init[1]> so the flash can be used in 64bit,without 64bit advantage
[09:21] <init[1]> hm,
[09:21] <gyroscope> hiptobecubic: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.32.18.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[09:22] <init[1]> i don't have a 64bit machine,so i haven't felt the difficulties of 64bits guys ;)
[09:22] <hiptobecubic> gyroscope, that's 10.0.  10.1 is out now (for some platforms anyway) that is supposed to have a lot of performance improvements
[09:22] <hiptobecubic> using the gpu instead of cpu etc
[09:22] <hiptobecubic> http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3678&p=1
[09:23] <init[1]> why is the adobe doesn't open falsh,do they make money out of it ?
[09:23] <init[1]> s/the/that/
[09:23] <alisonken1noc> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html <--- pre-release 10.1 64-bit linux version
[09:23] <hiptobecubic> oh never mind, it looks like only the windows version has hardware accel anyway. damnit.
[09:23] <hiptobecubic> alisonken1noc, thanks :)
[09:24] <gyroscope> is it 10.1 ?
[09:24] <hiptobecubic> alisonken1noc, isn't that ALSO 10.0.32.18?
[09:25] <alisonken1noc> they call it pre-release, so don't know
[09:26] <gyroscope> it's 10.0.32.18 not 10.1
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[09:26] <alisonken1noc> it says 10.1 pre-release
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[09:26] <alisonken1noc> at least on the download page
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[09:34] <slava_dp> http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2009/11/flash_player_101_beta.html > hiptobecubic
[09:34] <slava_dp> 32-bit for now.
[09:36] <hiptobecubic> harumph
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[09:47] <alisonken1noc> slava_dp: look at my link above about 64-bit 10.1 beta
[09:47] <fluke> can anyone tell me how much space would i need for my / to install slacks with kde and such?
[09:48] <alisonken1noc> 4G should cover basics
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[09:48] <fluke> what is a decent size for root though?
[09:49] <fluke> if i want more then basics i mean :S
[09:49] <Zordrak> perhaps 5G would be more appropriate
[09:49] <fluke> so 10gig is loads?
[09:49] <fluke> or overkill
[09:49] <Zordrak> 10G is fine, yes
[09:49] <fluke> ok sweet ty :)
[09:49] <Zordrak> but i recommend making / as large as possible
[09:49] <Zordrak> esp if /tmp is mounted on /
[09:49] <Zordrak> personally only /boot and swap are separated..
[09:50] <Dominian>  /home
[09:50] <fluke> well ok basically i have a few distros on my hd, and i have 16 gig space left to install slacks
[09:50] <Camarade_Tux> 10G at least imho
[09:50] <Dominian>  /home is always good to keep separate if you can.
[09:50] <Zordrak> so 256M /boot, huge /, 4096 swap
[09:50] <Camarade_Tux> my / uses 8GB
[09:50] <Zordrak> Dominian: IYO :)
[09:50] <fluke> i only make / and /home partitions i dont bother with /usr etc
[09:50] <slava_dp> 10G for /, 6G for /home.
[09:50] <Dominian> Zordrak: IYO?
[09:50] <fluke> ok nice :D
[09:50] <Zordrak> IYO != IMO :)
[09:50] <Dominian> hahaha
[09:50] <Dominian> ok
[09:51] <fluke> thanks for the info all bbl ^^
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[09:51] <slava_dp> alisonken1home, i see 10.0.32.18 on that page.
[09:51] <slava_dp> s/home/noc/
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[09:59] <hiptobecubic> I have a dell lattitude laptop here that won't power on or charge the battery. Died last night 'all of the sudden' and the user 'wasn't doing anything'. I tried taking the battery out and holding the power button down for awhile and then plugging it back in and pressing it again, but no go. any idea?
[10:00] <Dominian> hiptobecubic: its dead
[10:00] <Dominian> :)
[10:00] <Dominian> check the service tag on it and go to support.dell.com and stick that in.. find out when the warranty expires
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[10:00] <hiptobecubic> Dominian, pff. it's 4+ years old
[10:01] Action: hiptobecubic gets his screwdriver
[10:01] <Dominian> hehe
[10:01] <Dominian> If you remove the battery and nothing still works...
[10:01] <Dominian> is the A/C adapter good?
[10:01] <hiptobecubic> yes
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[10:09] <PiterPunk> Camarade_Tux: every boot udev trigger the rules to create persistent rules
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[10:10] <PiterPunk> Camarade_Tux: the one that you are seeking for is in /lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules
[10:11] <Camarade_Tux> PiterPunk: so, my wireless card should have been listed in /etc/udev/rules.d/persisten-net.rules?
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[10:12] <PiterPunk> Camarade_Tux: yes.
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[10:16] <Camarade_Tux> I'm not sure the module is very well-behaved, it was out-of-tree for 2.6.29, could that be a reason it doesn't get listed? (broadcom's "wl" driver for bcm4312, merged in <= 2.6.32)
[10:16] <Camarade_Tux> and http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2009/11/cray-rides-amds-opteron-to-top-of-supercomputer-list.ars
[10:16] <Camarade_Tux> (we mentionned the top computers here a few days ago)
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[10:20] <Scuzz> good morning everyone
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[10:21] <P4C0> gm
[10:21] <Scuzz> :)
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[10:24] <dive> moning
[10:25] <dive> Camarade_Tux, same problem with ath5k a while back - I still had to use madwifi to get my card to work even though there was a k module
[10:25] <dive> the .ko wasn't exactly ko
[10:26] <dive> nt until 2.6.29 anyway
[10:27] <hitest> Scuzz: morning:)
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[10:28] <Scuzz> morning hitest
[10:28] <hitest> :)
[10:29] <spook> http://spooksoftware.com/spook/seg.c
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[10:38] <dive> hmmm
[10:38] <dive> spook, what are you trying to say?
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[10:39] <spook> dive: seg fault :)
[10:39] <dive> I don't think a segbomb is as effective as a fork bomb
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[10:52] <Scuzz> hrm
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[10:53] Action: slackie hi there \o
[10:53] <Scuzz> my isp doesnt need authentication for sending emails , i jsut made an extra account under my brother inlaws emal address and i can send mail through his email account
[10:53] <Scuzz> shows up as him
[10:54] <spook> thats great, now report the bug to your isp
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[10:55] <Scuzz> yeah good idea
[10:56] <Scuzz> although i have to write my sister an email with his account first stating he wants a divorce
[10:56] <dive> haha
[10:56] <dive> way to get an entire isp blacklisted
[10:57] <Scuzz> lol yeah
[10:57] <Scuzz> i cant believe i never noticed this before
[10:57] <lemon> Hello,in slackware 13.0 install dvd,
[10:57] <dive> seriously an admin somewhere going to have nightmares about it for a while yet
[10:58] <Scuzz> lol yeah
[10:58] <lemon> I did a vi /usr/lib/setup
[10:58] <lemon> isn't setup a shell script?
[10:58] <dive> /usr/lib? (not that I've looked for the setup script)
[10:59] <dive> yes it's a shell script afaik
[10:59] <lemon> o...
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[11:00] <lemon> ok..it's /usr/lib/setup/setup
[11:01] <lemon> I ran too fast
[11:01] <dive> hmm ok
[11:01] <dive> so you need to edit it?
[11:02] <lemon> I try to understand how slackware installed into my hdd
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[11:04] <Camarade_Tux> afaict, it's "installpkg -root" + chroot for pkgtool's "setup" option
[11:04] <Camarade_Tux> basically
[11:04] <dive> I haven't actually looked at it, but Camarade_Tux beat me to it ;P
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[11:04] <spook> now i dont want to confuse things more, but i'm the rimmer from the double double future.
[11:05] <Camarade_Tux> bah, I do that by hand too ;p
[11:05] <Camarade_Tux> spook: lol, what?
[11:05] <Camarade_Tux>  ^^
[11:05] <spook> Camarade_Tux: red dwarf
[11:05] <dive> Arnold Rimmer
[11:05] <dive> nobody could be dimmer
[11:06] <dive> er so anyway yeah take some installpkg and apply liberal dose of chroot
[11:06] <spook> Ace Rimmer.  what a guy.
[11:06] <dive> mix at gas mark 5 for 30 mins
[11:07] <dive> spook, smoke me a haddock, I'll be back for breakfast
[11:07] <dive> or was it kipper?
[11:07] <Camarade_Tux> I've *never* seen that
[11:07] <dive> Camarade_Tux, it's very good ;-)
[11:07] <spook> dive: stroke me a clipper, i'll be back for breakfast.
[11:09] <bennymack> What is the command to get the native WxH in pixels of my LCD monitors?
[11:10] <tuxdev> xrandr might tell you
[11:11] <bennymack> I tried that. It's just telling me what it's currently configured to run at. I would like to get the actual hardware info from my LCDs if possible
[11:11] <bennymack> I vaguely recall at least on CLI program and one GUI to do this but I can't remember what they actually are
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[11:14] <The_Seeker> bennymack, xdpyinfo | grep dimension
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[11:14] <bennymack> yes that returns the same thing as xrandr: the dimensions of my desktop as configured in xorg.conf
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[11:16] <bennymack> maybe that is just their native resolution with width x 2 ?
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[11:17] <bennymack> ooh maybe it's in my xorg log
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[11:18] <antiwire> two people came into work yesterday sick and now both of them are home being really sick. wonderful.
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[11:21] <antiwire> rageful I say, rageful.
[11:22] <toastytoast> wow there is still the #slackware on efnet
[11:22] <spook> yes
[11:22] <Camarade_Tux> and how many peope?
[11:22] <toastytoast> 28
[11:22] <spook> where else are there large slackware channels?
[11:22] <toastytoast> 9 mods
[11:23] <antiwire> there is another large slackware channel but we don't tell you where because we like it that way
[11:23] <Camarade_Tux> there's #slackware on otfc, between 50 and 100 people I think
[11:23] <antiwire> damn it Camarade_Tux
[11:23] <antiwire> wtf
[11:23] <Camarade_Tux> antiwire: :)
[11:23] <spook> we have 309.
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[11:24] <Camarade_Tux> I think the count has increased quit a lot during the year, like +10%
[11:24] <Camarade_Tux>  ='(
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[11:29] <gnubien> nvidia 6150 video card pretty useless?
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[11:30] <thumbs> a 6150 is pretty weak
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[11:30] <Zordrak> the 6200tc cards are weak enough.. cant imagine the 6150
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[11:32] <The_Seeker> if the mkinitrd command significantly different when using an ext4 system? i.e. is "mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.29.6 -m mbcache:jbd:ext4 -f ext4 -r /dev/sdx" right?
[11:32] <thumbs> I use a gf2mx400 on my P3 :)
[11:32] <The_Seeker> or is it jbd2?
[11:32] <Camarade_Tux> a 6150 card isn't useless, you can connect a monitor to it (but not much more though :P )
[11:32] <mag0o> it works fine for mythtv on an sd tv :)
[11:32] <Zordrak> i am fscikng sick of umount failing for some pointless little process somewhere
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[11:32] <Zordrak> the whole cluster pauses while i stonith the node or find out what the hell is locking the mount
[11:33] <spook> Zordrak: heh.
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[11:33] <Zordrak> as per fucking usual lsof and fuser are useless to help
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[11:34] <Zordrak> and -f (force) fails
[11:35] <nachox> Zordrak, what would you be umounting?
[11:35] <Zordrak> i mean WTF is up with that.. unmount.. as _root_
[11:35] <Zordrak> i mean WTF is up with that.. unmount.. as _root_ with _force_ fails
[11:35] <spook> Zordrak: muahahaha
[11:35] <nachox> so? processes like to have their working directories available
[11:35] <Zordrak> nachox: an XFS partiton on an LVM thats served via CIFS and NFS
[11:36] <nachox> if there are clients using that, you'd better turn the services off before umounting
[11:36] <Wescotte> any java programmers here? I'm writting a stupid app for homework and I never use java (but it has to be in it..).. Anyway, is there a printf/sprintf for java? if so what do I include to use it? or what's the alternatives?
[11:36] <Zordrak> i did
[11:36] <Zordrak> but ps auwwwx *does* show a remaining [nfsiod]
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[11:37] <tuxdev> Wescotte, yes, since 1.5
[11:37] <nachox> Wescotte, System.out.printf
[11:37] <Zordrak> nothing else related
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[11:37] <nachox> Zordrak, ah, lovely, a kernel spawned process
[11:37] <Zordrak> nachox: and completely unkillable
[11:37] <nachox> Zordrak, run sync
[11:37] <Zordrak> nuthin
[11:38] <spook> i'm really bored.
[11:38] <nachox> Zordrak, btw, that is linux?
[11:39] <Zordrak> slackware64
[11:39] <nachox> sorry, reboot might be in order
[11:39] <Zordrak> tell me about it
[11:40] <Camarade_Tux> sync doesn't always sync (espcially with xfs and probably most journalized file systems)
[11:40] <Zordrak> i need to sort this out somehow or my failover cluser will never failover
[11:40] <Camarade_Tux> actually for xfs, sync doesn't sync
[11:40] <nachox> Zordrak, there are userlevel nfs server
[11:40] <nachox> s
[11:40] <spook> fsync?
[11:41] <Zordrak> nachox: any downsides?
[11:41] <nachox> Camarade_Tux, what do you mean? sync should block till all data is commited to disk, that's its purposes
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[11:42] <nachox> Zordrak, speed
[11:42] <Zordrak> thought so
[11:42] <nachox> Zordrak, look at the bright side, nfs is pathetic in linux anyway, so now you'll have pathethic and slow :P
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[11:43] <nachox> Zordrak, please try to unload the nfs kernel module
[11:44] <Zordrak> module in use
[11:44] <Camarade_Tux> nachox: can't remember the exact case but I had that two weeks ago, it was clear the only way to have the data written to the disk was to umount
[11:44] <Camarade_Tux> hiptobecubic can confirm
[11:44] <hiptobecubic> ?
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[11:44] <hiptobecubic> what's this?
[11:44] <nachox> Camarade_Tux, that goes against everything i've seen in linux in the past an in solaris in the present
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[11:45] <tuxdev> I believe theodore tso had some words on the XFS guys ignoring POSIX
[11:45] <tuxdev> he also has some words on app people ignoring POSIX too
[11:45] <Camarade_Tux> hiptobecubic: remember when we were making our installer-less installations? we would make changes to lilo.conf or fstab and they wouldn't appear in qemu
[11:45] <nachox> Zordrak, maybe there are clients connected to your nfs server?
[11:45] <The_Seeker> is the mkinitrd command significantly different when using an ext4 system? i.e. is "mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.29.6 -m mbcache:jbd:ext4 -f ext4 -r /dev/sdx" right?
[11:45] <The_Seeker> or is it jbd2?
[11:45] <spook> The_Seeker: thats fine.
[11:46] <Zordrak> nachox: maybe.. but the death of rpc.nfsd should deal with that
[11:46] <nachox> Zordrak, i am not that sure
[11:46] <The_Seeker> spook, I've read that just "-m ext4" will be enough as it will activate jbd
[11:46] <hiptobecubic> Camarade_Tux, oh yes. Or often in my case, if i tried to boot off of a mounted drive qemu would just take a shit and crash, printing ascii gibberish to the screen
[11:47] <hiptobecubic> unmounting solved it
[11:47] <hiptobecubic> I was using ext2, if that counts here. No journal
[11:47] <g`> bye
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[11:51] <Zordrak> ugh.. and the initial problem remains.. after failover lockd (now in kernel too) has to be HUPed before it will work
[11:51] <nachox> hahaha
[11:52] <Zordrak> i really appreciate your sympathy
[11:52] <nachox> Zordrak, your clustering solution should let you run custom acctions when it is failing over
[11:53] <Zordrak> nachox: screw that.. ill just ad killall -HUP rpc.{portmap,statd} to the nfs startup script
[11:54] <nachox> hehe, that should work too
[11:54] <Zordrak> i hate nfs
[11:54] <nachox> it is still pretty pathetic that you have to do that btq
[11:54] <nachox> btw
[11:54] <Zordrak> nachox: i have bugger all choice
[11:54] <nachox> kill lockd too
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[11:55] <Zordrak> lockd is kernel-spawned
[11:55] <Zordrak> itll hurt me
[11:55] <nachox> so? should be willing to die too
[11:55] <Zordrak>  rc.rpc restart fixes it.. which is euqivalent to hupping portmap and statd
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[11:56] <Zordrak> I would love to move this all to cifs.. but cifs is SO slow in camparison.. *and* id have to store mount passwords in plain text
[11:56] <Zordrak> i dont see a 3rd option
[11:57] <nachox> Zordrak, using cifs to share files among unix clients seems backward if you ask me
[11:57] <Zordrak> theres that too
[11:58] <Zordrak> but i still need cifs for the windows stuff... what can i do with unix clients but nfs? nothing as far as i can see
[11:58] <nachox> BUT i'd think there is kerberos too for cifs if you dont want to share the passwords
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[11:58] <Zordrak> slackware and kerberos are not exactly friends
[11:59] <nachox> no, they are not
[11:59] <Zordrak> <insert three hours of discussion>
[12:00] <Zordrak> ...ssoo im stuck with NFS and my head up my own arse
[12:00] <thumbs> Zordrak: I usually resort to ldap.
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[12:00] <Zordrak> thumbs: CIFS plus LDAP for slackware<->slackware.... glwt :)
[12:01] <xsamurai> Zordrak: you mentioned cifs is slow in comparison to what ?
[12:01] <Zordrak> nfs
[12:01] <nachox> ldap is an user repository, it doesnt authenticate anything
[12:01] <Zordrak> nachox: it can
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[12:01] <nachox> you'd still need to share the password
[12:01] <thumbs> you can authenticate against ldap, yes.
[12:01] <thumbs> nachox: right.
[12:02] <xsamurai> i always though cifs was faster then nfs
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[12:02] <Zordrak> xsamurai: you wish
[12:02] <nachox> cifs is a far more compex protocol
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[12:04] <nachox> check http://blogs.sun.com/brendan/entry/cifs_at_1_gbyte_sec and http://blogs.sun.com/brendan/entry/my_sun_storage_7410_perf
[12:04] <nachox> i know it's not samba but solaris' cifs server but still
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[12:11] <Zordrak> oh awesome
[12:11] <Camarade_Tux> yeah, I remember now!
[12:11] <Zordrak> rpc.portmap shuts down on HUP
[12:11] <Camarade_Tux> nachox: rather than sync, you can force the kernel to drop caches
[12:11] <Camarade_Tux> http://www.linuxinsight.com/proc_sys_vm_drop_caches.html
[12:11] <nachox> Camarade_Tux, sync should do exactly that!
[12:11] <Camarade_Tux> I mean, rather than unmount+mount
[12:11] <Camarade_Tux> nachox: seems it wasn't effective
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[12:12] <nachox> Zordrak, file a bug, that SHOULD NOT happen, HUP should be caught and dealt with or ignored but it should not kill anything
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[12:13] <Zordrak> nfs is one big frigging bug
[12:14] <Zordrak> aaarrrggghh now the locktest binary is just hanging while trying to get a lock
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[12:16] <Zordrak> ok that was crint side
[12:16] <Zordrak> *client
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[12:16] <spook> Time, an interesting episode of stargate universe with a predictable ending.
[12:17] <tuxdev> yeah
[12:17] <Zordrak> and down geos Konsol :z
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[12:19] <tuxdev> wonder what they picked up on *that* planet
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[12:20] <spook> tuxdev: herpes
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[12:26] <thumbs> spook: not hooked on SG-U. I find it tame.
[12:26] <Camarade_Tux> I have a spare *CRT* screen but I can't put it on this desk (there's already a laptop and there's a wall right behind the desk), what could I do with that screen?
[12:27] <Dominian> Camarade_Tux: chuck it off a tall building and watch the 'fun' begin
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[12:27] <Camarade_Tux> Dominian: hmmmm, any other idea? :P
[12:27] <Camarade_Tux> (no, no hammer involved -_- )
[12:27] <Dominian> hrm
[12:27] <Dominian> tie it to the bumper of your car and drive down the road?
[12:27] <tuxdev> I'm desperately hoping SGU gets better
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[12:28] <deco> Camarade_Tux: get a chair
[12:28] <init[1]> Camarade_Tux: small TV ,with external tv tunner?
[12:28] <Camarade_Tux> not really watching but that could be good
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[12:29] <init[1]> Camarade_Tux: how is your electricity billing,domestic or commercial ?
[12:29] <init[1]> :P
[12:29] <Camarade_Tux> I also have a computer case, I think I can put the sreen on top of the case, it'll be high enough so I can put irssi there :)
[12:29] <Camarade_Tux> init[1]: domestic
[12:29] <Camarade_Tux> Dominian: no car :D
[12:29] <init[1]> well,better not use CRT,go green
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[12:30] <Camarade_Tux> he
[12:30] <init[1]> ;)
[12:30] <spook> thumbs: its really just SG: Galatica
[12:30] <Camarade_Tux> and can an ATX case can get a micro-ATX mobo?
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[12:31] <thumbs> spook: I disagree
[12:31] <Zordrak> awffs
[12:31] <spook> Camarade_Tux: microatx will fit in most atx cases
[12:31] <spook> thumbs: it was a joke.
[12:31] <Zordrak> i have to restart rpc on the bloody client at failover too
[12:31] <spook> Zordrak: should have followed the golden rule.
[12:31] <spook> Zordrak: KISS
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[12:32] <Zordrak> spook: you have a simpler method?
[12:32] <init[1]> Zordrak: can you link your irc,to twitter :P it would nice ;)
[12:32] <Camarade_Tux> ok, I only need a screwdriver now...
[12:32] <spook> Zordrak: shrug. probably not that does the same thing.
[12:32] Action: Camarade_Tux hopes his pair of scissors will do it
[12:33] <Zordrak> if i dont restart server RPC then failover is transparent.. but locking fails.. if i restart the server the clients file handles will go stale unless i restart rpc on it too
[12:33] <AEnima1577> any fdisk experts in here?
[12:33] <Zordrak> im wonderingf if its time to start investigating NFSv4...
[12:33] <Necos> ?
[12:33] <tripFantastic> why are locks failing?
[12:34] <AEnima1577> ive been running it with a -c command for checking a hard drive
[12:34] <Zordrak> *nhrug*
[12:34] <AEnima1577> and its barely at 20% after 12 hours
[12:34] <Camarade_Tux> AEnima1577: how big is your drive? :P
[12:35] <AEnima1577> 250Gigs
[12:35] <tripFantastic> which fstype?
[12:35] <AEnima1577> its an older external
[12:35] <AEnima1577> i would guess ide or pata if i was forced to guys the "type"
[12:36] <tripFantastic> ext3, resier, etc?
[12:36] <AEnima1577> the fs is ext3
[12:36] <AEnima1577> wait
[12:36] <tripFantastic> k
[12:36] <AEnima1577> before reformating
[12:36] <AEnima1577> the system was ntfs
[12:36] <tripFantastic> are you mkfs'ing now?
[12:36] <AEnima1577> and its getting written to ext3 currecntly
[12:36] <tripFantastic> with -c?
[12:36] <AEnima1577> yep
[12:36] <AEnima1577> exactly
[12:36] <tripFantastic> did you need to -c?
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[12:37] <AEnima1577> i mean its an older drive
[12:37] <tripFantastic> did you need to -c?
[12:37] <AEnima1577> and i had been carrying it around a lot
[12:37] <AEnima1577> i would say yes
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[12:37] <tripFantastic> dont "would", be sure.  did you have sector probs priorly?
[12:38] <AEnima1577> i have a number of drives and a lot of them are having sectors problems
[12:38] <tripFantastic> AEnima1577 focus on wht i'm asking pls?
[12:38] <AEnima1577> im not 100% sure about if this was a largely problematic one
[12:38] <tripFantastic> i am only asking about ONE drive that you're currently mkfs'ing NOW
[12:38] <AEnima1577> tripFantastic, this disk wasnt failing
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[12:38] <AEnima1577> i am going to stick with yess
[12:38] <tripFantastic> then break mkfs; and start without -c
[12:39] <AEnima1577> your sure its totally  unnecessary unless the disk is totally failing?
[12:39] <tripFantastic> AEnima1577 you just wrote "wasnt failing"; you're wasting your own time.
[12:39] <AEnima1577> alright, tripFantastic,       thanks for the advise
[12:39] <tripFantastic> does smartd recognise the disk?
[12:39] <tripFantastic> yw
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[12:42] <mgm> Anybody work with arm linux here ?
[12:43] <tripFantastic> nop
[12:43] <init[1]> mgm: though we have ARMedslack
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[12:44] <Camarade_Tux> mgm: why?
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[12:46] <mgm> Camarade_Tux : I am working with a FriendlyArm .. but has problems with the modprobe of busybox.. and the iptables modules... principle the module dependency
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[12:48] <mgm> Camarade_Tux: Do you have experiency with arm linux ?
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[12:49] <init[1]> mgm: #linux might be able to help ya
[12:49] <dissociative> anyone knows which is the firefox extension that shows flash contents as a gray box with a play button
[12:50] <The-Croupier> greetings everybody ;) hows it going?
[12:50] <init[1]> wb The-Croupier
[12:50] <The-Croupier> init[1]: how are you doing bro?
[12:50] <dissociative> there it is that extension but I dont see it in the extensions menu
[12:50] <init[1]> dissociative: you mean flashplayer?
[12:50] <init[1]> The-Croupier: fine,you ?
[12:50] <dissociative> yes
[12:50] <AlexElliott_> Flashblock?
[12:50] <init[1]> The-Croupier: is your feed issues over?
[12:50] <The-Croupier> not bad, if you dont count all the women winging
[12:51] <init[1]> :P
[12:51] <init[1]> dissociative: adobe flash?
[12:51] <The-Croupier> init[1]: yes somehow ;) i found a nice software that does exactly what i wanted..( i hate windows, its so hard to do stuff if you dont have software) you have to look for this and for that...etc..
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[12:51] <dissociative> well I have adobe flash 10 in my home pc but the flash contents is automatically played and doesnt shows as a gray box
[12:52] <dissociative> with a big plat button
[12:52] <dissociative> play
[12:52] <AlexElliott_> So it's not flashblock?  Because that does seem to be what you're describing iirc
[12:52] <init[1]>  ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so <- paste the lib there restart fire fox
[12:52] <The-Croupier> dissociative: maybe in this pc, they are not working as supposed to ;)
[12:52] <dissociative> how can I take an screenshot then?
[12:52] <init[1]> The-Croupier: what sw is it?
[12:52] <init[1]> dissociative: import you.png
[12:53] <The-Croupier> init[1]: website watcher ;) really nice..monitors changes everywhere... locally, urls...etc..everything ;)
[12:54] <The-Croupier> accepts scripts ..etc...so it could be nice to modify in a nice firewally/monitor system ;) and its cheap as well.;)
[12:54] <Camarade_Tux> mgm: no, but asking anyway costs nothing ;-)
[12:55] <init[1]> The-Croupier: do you have login to see the changes?
[12:55] <init[1]> s/do/so/
[12:55] <The-Croupier> init[1]: ;) i created false ones ;)
[12:55] <The-Croupier> init[1]: as long as i see what i need i dont mind ;)
[12:56] <init[1]> :P
[12:57] <The-Croupier> init[1]: it works ;)
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[12:57] <init[1]> The-Croupier: so you research paid finally right ;)
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[12:59] <The-Croupier> init[1]: it always does...its mine ;)
[12:59] <init[1]> k:)
[13:00] <init[1]> flat smily
[13:00] <init[1]> :P
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[13:06] <dissociative> I just have took the screenshot
[13:06] <dissociative> now I need to publish it
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[13:07] <init[0]> dissociative: imagebin,
[13:07] <init[0]> dissociative: good luck ,
[13:07] Action: init[0] afk
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[13:10] <dissociative> this is it http://imagebin.org/72004
[13:10] <dissociative> I have seen that thing before in firefox but I cant remember
[13:11] <dissociative> what extension is that
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[13:11] <AlexElliott> It looks a lot like flashblock
[13:12] <dissociative> but the extension section of firefox shows as empty
[13:12] <ccfreak2k> Apparently my shell server is getting upgraded to Ubuntu Karmic.
[13:12] <deco> javascript ?
[13:12] <ccfreak2k> God help us.
[13:12] <dissociative> lul
[13:13] <fire|bird> ccfreak2k: ewww, time to change shell servers. :P
[13:13] Action: deco shell server runs debian
[13:13] <deco> deco's*
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[13:14] <The-Croupier> ccfreak2k: god has nothing to do with it ;) and who called that an upgrade? ;)
[13:15] <dissociative> godnix
[13:17] <dissociative> it looks like something called swfdec
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[13:19] <dissociative> it looks like its better than gnash
[13:19] <fire|bird> dissociative: yes, it's swfdec.
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[13:30] <macavity> good evenging :-)
[13:30] <deco> macavity: good evenging
[13:30] <macavity> uhm.. its always good when ones ging is even
[13:31] <macavity> deco: my ging is bigger than yours :P
[13:31] <fire|bird> hey macavity, how are you?
[13:31] <fire|bird> haha
[13:31] <macavity> fire|bird: never been ginger!
[13:31] <deco> macavity: hmmmm that's what fire|bird said :P
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[13:31] <fire|bird> lol
[13:31] <macavity> you?
[13:31] <fire|bird> macavity: great, thanks. :)
[13:31] <macavity> i take it your ging is in good shape too?
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[13:32] <macavity> all even, not crooket, right?
[13:32] <acidtripper> Hi Folks!
[13:32] <fire|bird> macavity: indeed. :P
[13:32] <macavity> yello acidtripper
[13:32] <macavity> is your ging even?
[13:33] <fire|bird> does your ging hang low, does it........you know the rest. ;)
[13:33] <acidtripper> someone is having the same error i have: when i start k3b sometimes it closes unspectedly... and ask if i want to send bug..?
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[13:33] <macavity> acidtripper: Slackware 13?
[13:33] <deco> acidtripper: 13 or current ?
[13:33] <mancha> thats not a bug its a feature. it reminds you "why you runnin' this damn coaster maker?"
[13:33] <acidtripper> current
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[13:34] <acidtripper> k3b version is 1.68.0
[13:34] <deco> acidtripper: hmmm running kde 4.3.3 but i don't use k3b :p
[13:34] <macavity> ok, thats worse.. k3b was known to have problems in 4.2.4, but i dont know about current KDE
[13:34] <acidtripper> sometimes all goes fine and sometimes when i run it closes
[13:34] <macavity> acidtripper: have you set cdrecord suid root?
[13:35] <acidtripper> macavity, how is that?
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[13:36] <macavity> you dont have too at all... i just do it because on this laptop the HDD and the burner is on the same channel
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[13:37] <macavity> (yes i know, idiots for saving that small an amount)
[13:37] <acidtripper> maybe in my laptop is the same
[13:37] <acidtripper> i have a sata hd and sata burner
[13:37] <macavity> then they are on seperate channels
[13:37] <macavity> naturally...
[13:38] <macavity> sata means single channel by its very nature
[13:38] <acidtripper> lol!
[13:38] <acidtripper> so your hd and burner are ide?
[13:38] <macavity> yes
[13:39] <macavity> i think it was about the *only* thing i didnt check before i bought
[13:39] <macavity> but the rest of it is fantastic
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[13:40] <acidtripper> what lappie do you have?
[13:41] <macavity> its an Asus "whitebox".. that is, you just go to a certefied Asus dealer and say "i want that machine, with 2GB low latency RAM, a T7400 and 100GB 7200RPM drive"
[13:41] <macavity> Asus S96F
[13:41] <acidtripper> ahh
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[13:42] <acidtripper> Here compaq 610, c2d t5870 3gb ram and 250gb hd
[13:42] <macavity> that cpu would kill me :P
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[13:43] <macavity> i specifically shelled out a good deal extra to get a 4MB L2 cache version
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[13:44] <acidtripper> yes, thats the cpu most macs come with, mine is 2mb l2
[13:44] <macavity> though mine is two and a half years old
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[13:45] <macavity> so yes, i paid quite a bit.. but still, when i see laptops with similar specs (ok, HDDs are bigger today) they cost nearly the same.. go figure :P
[13:45] <acidtripper> but you didn't found 4mb l2?
[13:45] <macavity> yes, T7400 is 4MB, 2.16GHz
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[13:45] <acidtripper> yes, mine costed like 1000dls here in arg
[13:45] <acidtripper> there in usa is like 600dls the same lappie
[13:46] <macavity> and i spent a little extra on good memory, since it only runs 667 on the FSB
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[13:46] <acidtripper> 699, i saw in some webs
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[13:46] <macavity> i dont know that currency :P
[13:46] <macavity> ahh.. dollars
[13:46] <macavity> $
[13:46] <acidtripper> yes but here we call $ to argentinian pesos
[13:46] <acidtripper> and U$S to US $
[13:47] <macavity> well.. with  the current dollar collaps it will probably be cheeper to buy overseas soon
[13:47] <acidtripper> mm, long time i don't see currency
[13:47] <macavity> the Euro is starting to outpace the dollar by quite a bit.. and Danish currency (where i live) is locked to the Euro
[13:47] <acidtripper> Danish is?..
[13:48] <macavity> Kroner
[13:48] <macavity> DKR
[13:48] <acidtripper> Kroner? Dinamarca?
[13:48] <macavity> "Danish Kroner"
[13:48] <macavity> actually it means "crowns"
[13:49] <deco> acidtripper: denmark
[13:49] <macavity> ah
[13:49] <tripFantastic> wow, Google's Go language has no symbol tree
[13:49] <tripFantastic> table
[13:50] <macavity> so it has object prelinking build in?
[13:50] <tripFantastic> i'm not sure; i just read my first blurb re
[13:50] <macavity> :P
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[13:50] <tripFantastic> i heard/read the designers are here on the node
[13:51] <macavity> naturally
[13:51] <macavity> this is freenode
[13:51] <macavity> nearly all free/open source crowds hang out here
[13:51] <tripFantastic> can ou imagine being a bit's distance from DMR?
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[13:51] <tripFantastic> ou/you
[13:51] <macavity> DMR?
[13:51] <tripFantastic> Ritchie
[13:51] <tripFantastic> heh
[13:52] <tripFantastic> dennis, c definer
[13:52] <tripFantastic> R of K&R
[13:52] <macavity> ive talked to quite a few prominent figures here on freenode
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[13:52] <tripFantastic> kool
[13:52] <macavity> though, none as famous as K or R
[13:52] <tripFantastic> i've emailed a prof.auth once; thanked him for teaching me remotely :)
[13:52] <acidtripper> macavity, who?
[13:53] <acidtripper> what figures?
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[13:53] <macavity> acidtripper: Patrick Volkerding, Eric S. Reymond, Jonathan Shapero and Ulric Drepper
[13:54] <tripFantastic> acidtripper my email to fame was with Patrick D. (P. D.) Terry of S. A.
[13:54] <acidtripper> whats the nick of Pat? does he uses irc?
[13:54] <tripFantastic> duno; yes.
[13:54] <tripFantastic> visits here
[13:54] <macavity> acidtripper: "volkerdi"
[13:54] <acidtripper> lol
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[13:55] <thumbs> 8 characters, yes, that's funny.
[13:55] <tripFantastic> heh
[13:55] <acidtripper> could retry reading a dvd sector affect to my dvd drive?
[13:55] <tripFantastic> he's got that 8.3 thingy down pat
[13:55] <tripFantastic> nop
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[13:56] <acidtripper> couse it does an awful sound, is in lowest speed reading and ripping dvd... i would have to stop copying rented dvds :S
[13:56] <tripFantastic> btw, the recording media of cd/dvd is on the outside; seen em dissapate in the rain
[13:58] <acidtripper> too sensible laser :S
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[14:00] <acidtripper> bad quality unit
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[14:01] <beatzz> Sweet!!!
[14:01] <beatzz> i got internet at home again!
[14:02] <guax> :(
[14:02] <beatzz> bad news for ##slackware
[14:02] <mancha> do your colonels boot?
[14:02] <beatzz> negitive, that laptop is fuxed
[14:02] <beatzz> im gana redo it all and try again
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[14:02] <beatzz> i tryed everything i could think of
[14:02] <beatzz> i checked #~/.bash_history
[14:03] <beatzz> to see what i did in mkinitrd
[14:03] <beatzz> try it w/ the correct -r
[14:03] <mancha> and nothing?
[14:03] <beatzz> nothing changed.
[14:03] <beatzz> no big deal
[14:03] <beatzz> i dident have any data on that laptop anyhow
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[14:04] <beatzz> so im gana do a fresh intall of 13
[14:04] <beatzz> get it to -current, install my optional packages, then try the kernel again
[14:04] <beatzz> nice to do it from my desk at home
[14:04] <beatzz> instead of driving 10 miles to the library or to friends house.
[14:05] <macavity> any AMD expert in the house?
[14:06] <mancha> it's a bit of a pita that the 30.5 package overwrite some symlinks of the default kernel, this is a bug not a feature, imho
[14:06] <beatzz> or..should I boot off of the slackware 13 dvd ?
[14:06] <mancha> i would have packaged it differently
[14:06] <beatzz> and try to fix the problem at hand?
[14:06] <mancha> we can fix the problem or you can re-install, your choice
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[14:06] <macavity> does an AMD Athlon 64 (probably 90nm Winchester) have any kind of hardware aid for virtualization?
[14:07] <linXea> Anyone had any luck with installing ATI catalyst 9.10?
[14:07] <macavity> and how fast is it in real MHz when it claims to be a 3500+?
[14:07] <beatzz> perhaps the correct choice is to fix the problem at hand
[14:07] <beatzz> harder, but usualy the harder of 2 choices is the right one to make.
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[14:07] <beatzz> imho
[14:07] <Nick_Patterson_> macavity: The numbers don't reflect processor speed.
[14:08] <EasyTUX> imho NO !
[14:08] <macavity> hence my question..
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[14:08] <beatzz> so, should i boot that bad boy up mancha ?
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[14:08] <EasyTUX> Because the harder sux !
[14:08] <beatzz> and if so, with the DVD or vanila?
[14:08] <EasyTUX> eheh. ;))
[14:08] <mancha> DVD
[14:09] <beatzz> mmk, let me get her up and running.
[14:10] <macavity> ok.. 2200MHz
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[14:13] <beatzz> mancha, boot: hugesmp.s root=/dev/sda1 initrd= ro
[14:14] <beatzz> ok mancha im up and running in GUI
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[14:15] <Camarade_Tux> back :)
[14:15] <Camarade_Tux> bad wifi
[14:15] <beatzz_> mancha, this is the broken laptop <---
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[14:17] <mancha> ok, at least you have inet which means you can pastebin. pastebing the following for me:  ls -ls /boot ; cat /etc/lilo.conf ; ls -l /usr/src
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[14:17] <songohan> Hello everyone
[14:17] <elliot98> hiya
[14:18] <mancha> i didn't preface the paths with the mount dir, but you know what i need...
[14:18] <songohan> Is it possible to create an sfx archive (compressed with lzma) with a linux PC ?
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[14:18] <mohaa> :>
[14:19] <mancha> song yes
[14:19] <songohan> the archive will be created on linux and decompressed on windows
[14:19] <mohaa> http://backtrack.it/~emgent/hackstuff/Gerix-Wifi-Cracker-NG/index-en.html
[14:19] <songohan> mancha : How ?
[14:19] <mancha> using 7z
[14:20] <songohan> you don't understand, i want to create the archive on linux
[14:20] <songohan> i don't think that it's possible make sfx archives with p7zip
[14:21] <songohan> is it ?
[14:21] <mancha> oh ok
[14:21] <agris> rar? :)
[14:21] <beatzz_> mancha, ls -ls /boot : http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/ezimGl13.html
[14:21] <agris> hh, isn't it just unrar officially freeware?
[14:21] <mancha> can you try to put it all in one pastebin, so i don't have to open many tabs?
[14:21] <beatzz_> mancha, cat /etc/lilo.conf : http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/Tvy59i73.html
[14:22] <songohan> agris : you talk to me ?
[14:22] <agris> anyway, what is so wonderful in sfx not to try 7z? :)
[14:22] <beatzz_> mancha, ls -l /usr/src/ : http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/CKBiaP73.html
[14:22] <beatzz_> yea sorry mancha
[14:22] <agris> songohan: yes. and compression is better too
[14:22] <mancha> beatz, one single url please, and www.pastebin.com not slackadelic. thanks.
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[14:23] <songohan> i haven't tested rar but i think lzma is better for compressing
[14:23] <agris> it is
[14:23] <songohan> lzma divide my archive size by 3 :)
[14:23] <agris> btw, sfx  works just for microsoft os, doesn't it?
[14:24] <macavity> songohan: lzma is not only better in most contexts.. but way faster
[14:24] <beatzz_> mancha, http://pastebin.com/m5e8ea9a7
[14:24] <agris> btw, random link from google => http://www.gdgsoft.com/faq/7zsfx.htm
[14:25] <mancha> thanks, gimme a second to read now
[14:25] <songohan> agris : yes, it's not a problem. My users will download backups to windows and decompress it
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[14:25] <beatzz_> mancha, np, thank you for helping me.
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[14:26] <fredoslack> Hi
[14:26] <agris> anyway, songohan, i would advice to you to install 7zip on your windows machines. it's completely free, and you won't need that sfx anymore because 7-zip is integrated in explorer's context menu
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[14:26] <songohan> agris : your soft is for windows. I need to compress with linux
[14:26] <agris> songohan: it's the same 7z in linux
[14:26] <mancha> beatzz ok are you cd'd into /mnt or somthing?
[14:27] <fredoslack> Who have installed KDE 4.3.3, please ? I've got a problem
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[14:27] <beatzz_> mancha, i set the root as /dev/sda1
[14:27] <macavity> fredoslack: i am fully upto date with -current
[14:27] <songohan> agris : i don't understand your last sentence
[14:28] <mancha> ah ok. then can you change a couple of symlinks?  System.map to point to System.map-generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp and in /usr/src make linux point to linux-2.6.29.6
[14:28] <fredoslack> macavity, ok, can you tell me if you have the file: /usr/share/icons/oxygen/index.theme ?
[14:28] <mancha> then run /sbin/lilo -vv and pastebin that output
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[14:28] <fredoslack> i don't have got this file, so i can't have Oxygen' theme
[14:28] <fredoslack> :'(
[14:29] <beatzz_> mancha, ok give me sec
[14:29] <macavity> fredoslack: yes i do
[14:29] <songohan> i've tried p7zip also, it works well but it's weird i can't compress directory (only files)
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[14:29] <fredoslack> i've tried to modify the file of an other theme,
[14:29] <fredoslack> but it's uggly =)
[14:29] <macavity> fredoslack: it comes from /var/log/packages/oxygen-icons-4.3.3-i486-1
[14:30] <macavity> fredoslack: try "slackpkg install oxygen-icons
[14:30] <macavity> "
[14:30] <fredoslack> macavity,  ok thinks you, i'me trying =)
[14:30] <agris> songohan: skip it. 7-zip.org for windows completely matches p7zip in linux
[14:30] <macavity> fredoslack: i think you forgot "slackpkg install-new"
[14:30] <fredoslack> yes i forget
[14:30] <fredoslack> ^^
[14:30] <deco> fredoslack: ca va :D
[14:31] <fredoslack> macavity,  i come back, bye =)
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[14:31] <songohan> agris i've tried p7zip, but i can't compress directories (only files)
[14:31] <fredoslack> yeeep deco  oué impecc, i reviens =)
[14:31] <deco> fredoslack: ok see ya :P
[14:31] <mancha> oops, not -vv, i meant /sbin/lilo -v 2
[14:31] <fredoslack> ++
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[14:32] <beatzz_> mancha, okay
[14:32] <agris> songohan: no problem :) tar first and 7z later :P
[14:32] <songohan> i could use tar before but i prefer make something very simple for my users (i do this for my job)
[14:32] <mancha> 7z does dirs
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[14:32] <beatzz_> mancha, http://pastebin.com/m7733f9b1
[14:33] <songohan> mancha : 7zip does, but p7zip doesn't.
[14:34] <songohan> agris : i agree with you but i want something more simple for the final user
[14:34] <mancha> beatzz, you have raid setup?
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[14:34] <beatzz_> mancha, i guess so. If I do it's nothing I did to it.
[14:35] <agris> http://www.digipedia.pl/man/doc/view/7z.1.html
[14:35] <agris> switch -r
[14:35] <agris> and all the tales
[14:35] <agris> btw, your beloved switch -sfx too :D
[14:35] <mancha> beatzz ok. now you're sure this is the kernel you used before yes?
[14:36] <beatzz_> I belive so.
[14:36] <beatzz_> as i said, i havent done much to this thing besides install Slackware 13, updated to -current and added aircrack-ng :/
[14:37] <mancha> it wasn't vmlinuz-huge-2.6.29.6 or vmlinuz-huge-smp-2.6.29.6-smp you certain?
[14:37] <beatzz_> no, i cant say for certain, i never checked.
[14:37] <mancha> okay can someone who uses slackware 13 please tell beatz what the default kernel is? (ls -l /boot/vmlinuz should do)
[14:37] <beatzz_> i can check on my other laptop
[14:37] <beatzz_> let me see
[14:38] <beatzz_> ok it IS huge
[14:38] <agris> songohan: ok, my mistake... drunk too much old beer today. anyway - there's just one line of command. it can be easily builtin in shell script -> On Linux/Unix, in order to backup directories you must use tar : - to backup a directory : tar cf - directory | 7za a -si directory.tar.7z
[14:38] <mancha> ok, change your symlinks accordingly then, both /boot/vmlinuz and /boot/System.map ok?
[14:38] <beatzz_> so change the /usr/src symlink to that one ?
[14:38] <mancha> no, /usr/src is fine as is, that is only pointing to the right kernel ver
[14:39] <beatzz_> gotcha
[14:39] <mancha> change /boot/vmlinuz and /boot/System.map
[14:39] <mancha> then rerun lilo -v 2
[14:40] <hiptobecubic> agris, why are you doing it that way? why not just use `tar -acf directory.tar.xz directory` ?
[14:40] <beatzz_> how about the config symlink?
[14:40] <beatzz_> /boot/config
[14:40] <mancha> you can change it if you want but it won't affect the boot process. might as well for consistency's sake
[14:40] <maybe> ls -l /boot/vmlinuz
[14:40] <maybe> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 2009-10-01 19:40 /boot/vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-huge-smp-2.6.29.6-smp
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[14:41] <mancha> maybe thanks :)
[14:41] <maybe> np
[14:42] <agris> hiptobecubic: i just read the man file ;)
[14:42] <beatzz_> mancha, http://pastebin.com/d16b4753d
[14:42] <hiptobecubic> agris, the man file for tar is way out of date and apparently unmaintained. use tar --help instead
[14:42] <mancha> ok, i believe you're ready to boot into "linux" the original kernel
[14:42] <songohan> agris : ok it should be work. But the windows user should first decompress then detar. It's a little "boring"
[14:43] <beatzz_> ok mancha , going down for reboot
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[14:43] <mancha> and you now need to fix your new kernel. the error is in the initrd (i think)
[14:43] <fredoslack> macavity,  thanks youuu
[14:43] <fredoslack> it's work perfectly  =)
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[14:43] <beatzz_> ok here we go
[14:43] <beatzz> im on this one wile it boots
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[14:43] <songohan> hiptobecubic : the final user is on windows and can't decompress an xz archive :(
[14:44] <hiptobecubic> songohan, but they have 7zip? it's the same algo
[14:44] <fredoslack> macavity,  i will try not forget "install-new" ^^
[14:44] <fredoslack> (to not )
[14:44] <thumbs> songohan: can't he simply install the xz libraries?
[14:44] Action: fredoslack is happy
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[14:44] <agris> thumbs: windows sucks, there probably is any zx library available on the fly
[14:44] <agris> :D
[14:45] <beatzz> mancha, success!!
[14:45] <beatzz> <3
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[14:45] <songohan> in my company, they can't install it (they are administrator). They could use 7zip because there a portable version (without installation)
[14:45] <fredoslack> deco,  Slackware-current, KDE 4.3.3
[14:45] <fredoslack> The Dream <3
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[14:46] <mancha> excellent. now go back to the readme and re-do the initrd stuff for the new kernel. i got to go for now
[14:46] <deco> fredoslack: haha, i have it too :)
[14:46] <deco> fredoslack: upgraded yesterday
[14:46] <beatzz> allrightie, thanks for your help
[14:46] <mancha> np
[14:46] <fredoslack> i i will refine my installation tomorow <3
[14:46] <fredoslack> -i
[14:46] <spook> someone remind me to do the washing tomorrow, and go for a jog
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[14:47] <songohan> hiptobecubic:  i think no, i haven't succeeded to decompressed a .txz archive with 7zip
[14:47] <songohan> hiptobecubic, it's the same algorythm but not the same container
[14:48] <deco> fredoslack: hehe :)
[14:48] <hiptobecubic> well that's annoying. can it do regular lzma? tar.lzma?
[14:48] <fredoslack> deco,  tomorow i will install Nvidia' driver, etc
[14:48] <Camarade_Tux> xz!
[14:49] <deco> fredoslack: cool cool
[14:49] <fredoslack> <3 <3 slackware <3 <3
[14:49] <deco> fredoslack: :p
[14:49] <Camarade_Tux> spook: gonna try :D
[14:49] <fredoslack> ^^
[14:49] <Camarade_Tux> fredoslack: hi :)
[14:49] <agris> songohan: ok, i did experiment
[14:49] <fredoslack> Yep Camarade_Tux  =)
[14:49] <spook> Camarade_Tux: its on my ikog todo list now.
[14:49] <Camarade_Tux> why 7zip rather than xz?
[14:49] <songohan> hiptobecubic, it should work but it's boring make two actions to decompress the archive
[14:49] <Camarade_Tux> spook: ikog? is it one of those evil things?
[14:49] <agris> songohan: command tar -acf dir.7z ./directory
[14:49] <songohan> Camarade_Tux, final users are on windows
[14:49] <hiptobecubic> songohan, what?
[14:49] <jeev> comrad
[14:50] <spook> Camarade_Tux: its a simple python commandline todo list manager
[14:50] <agris> songohan: it doas compress directory and win user can extract is as directory
[14:50] <Camarade_Tux> songohan: 7zip 9 can do xz without problem
[14:50] <spook> 7zip can do a lot of things.
[14:50] <agris> songohan: give me now EUR 5 for beers :DDD
[14:51] <Camarade_Tux> spook: oh, not an ipod but that's evil too :P
[14:51] <songohan> Camarade_Tux, really ? you've tried ?
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[14:51] <fredoslack> :p
[14:51] <deco> lol
[14:51] <Camarade_Tux> songohan: xz is also know as lzma2, the spec has been designed together with Igor Pavlov
[14:51] <songohan> i've tried this afternoon and i've no succeeded
[14:51] <Camarade_Tux> 7zip *9*?
[14:51] <spook> Camarade_Tux: heh, my iphone does cool things like sync with my google calendar and contacts, in real time
[14:52] <agris> songohan: you didn't try to use extension .7z instead of .xz
[14:52] <agris> :D
[14:52] <Camarade_Tux> aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, my eyes!
[14:52] <agris> still waiting for my beers
[14:52] <agris> hh
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[14:52] <spook> Camarade_Tux: still waiting for my postcard
[14:53] <songohan> Camarade_Tux, i guess
[14:53] <Camarade_Tux> songohan: can try if you really want
[14:53] <Camarade_Tux> spook: buying beer is higher on my priority list
[14:53] <songohan> try to decompress a txz archive to see...
[14:53] <Camarade_Tux> btw, brb
[14:53] <Camarade_Tux> argh no, no beer tonight, got work to do
[14:53] <spook> Camarade_Tux: fair enough
[14:53] <songohan> agris, thank you but it's better to be sober :)
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[14:56] <agris> songohan: good :) anyway it (tar -axf) works well and win can extraxt if extension is .7z, that's for sure
[14:57] <songohan> it's a story about extension but about container, xz is a container, not only an algorythm
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[14:58] <spook> tar is the container, lzma is the compression.
[14:58] <songohan> Camarade_Tux, did you try to decompress txz archive with 7zip ?
[14:58] <agris> dunno where is the problem. maybe that's workaround or whatever you can  call it, but it works 100% perfect.
[14:59] <songohan> spook, http://tukaani.org/xz/
[14:59] <songohan> .xz is a container
[14:59] <spook> txz is no.
[14:59] <Camarade_Tux> songohan: he, wait a second, windows is slow to start :P
[14:59] <spook> t
[14:59] <agris> omg.. .xz is extension
[14:59] <songohan> Camarade_Tux, ok thx
[15:00] <agris> like .sfx .zip .rar .7z .exe .dll
[15:00] <Camarade_Tux> works
[15:00] <agris> Camarade_Tux: just like for me :)
[15:00] <songohan> yesssss
[15:00] <macavity> ok.. small gotcha in -current if people dont actually read the changelog :P
[15:00] <macavity> (/me love those)
[15:00] <spook> macavity: whats up dude?
[15:01] <macavity> spook: my ging
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[15:01] <metrofox> Camarade_Tux is requested at the checkout(##slackofftopic) :P
[15:01] <macavity> spook: though.. me, deco and fire|bird haven't really established yet what exactly a "ging" is.. but it apparently must be even somehow
[15:02] <spook> macavity: okay, ging.
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[15:02] <macavity> spook: as in "good evenging":P
[15:02] <spook> macavity: oh, good morning.
[15:03] <macavity> good mornging?
[15:03] <macavity> hmmm.. new possibilities :P
[15:03] <spook> man i gotta sleep
[15:03] <spook> otherwise i wont get up before noon.
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[15:06] <macavity> spook: go rob the fridge then :P
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[15:06] <macavity> spook: that is what i do when i have to sleep on demand
[15:07] <beatzz> ok all
[15:07] <beatzz> testing out the new kernel
[15:07] <beatzz> did everything to the 'T'
[15:07] Action: beatzz crosses fingers
[15:07] <spook> macavity: eating before sleeping is not the way to get fit, imo
[15:07] <macavity> no.. its the way to fall asleep fast
[15:08] <macavity> so, do you want to get fit before noon, or do you want to get up before noon? :P
[15:08] <beatzz> :/ it failed again...
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[15:08] <spook> macavity: i'll get up before noon regardless, its how tired i'll be that will change.
[15:08] <beatzz> Freeing unused kernel memory: 400k freed
[15:08] <beatzz> request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt-0000
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[15:12] <paul424> How do I get the info about my motherboard, cpu tempretures and so forth  ?
[15:12] <Alan_Hicks> beatzz: WTF is binfmt-0000?
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[15:13] <maybe> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[15:13] <oobe> paul424, lm-sensors
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[15:13] <beatzz> Alan_Hicks, your asking me??? i have no idea
[15:14] <beatzz> Alan_Hicks, it repeasts that line 5 times then its just stoped
[15:14] <songohan> Camarade_Tux, Zip 9 is a beta...
[15:14] <Alan_Hicks> beatzz: What were.... or... nevermind.  You're compiling a custom kernel aren't you?
[15:14] <songohan> 7zip
[15:14] <beatzz> Alan_Hicks, yea, the lastest and greatest
[15:14] <beatzz> to get my video working
[15:14] <Alan_Hicks> beatzz: What's the matter with your video?
[15:15] <Camarade_Tux> songohan: actually most previous versions were also beta...
[15:15] <beatzz> Alan_Hicks, when i go fullscreen, the video gets hella choppy
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[15:15] <Camarade_Tux> songohan: and it's beta mostly for compression, not extraction
[15:15] <beatzz> Alan_Hicks, let me ask you something
[15:15] <Camarade_Tux> songohan: and last, if you only want command-line, you can also use xz on windows
[15:15] <Alan_Hicks> beatzz: In X I presume?  I would think that would be a xorg driver issue, not a kernel issue.
[15:15] <beatzz> someone told me the new kernel pwnts 2D grapics
[15:16] <beatzz> but i belive the problem w/ the kernel booting is a memory issue
[15:16] <beatzz> it says something about that in the readme
[15:16] <beatzz> says to add large-memory in global section of lilo
[15:17] <beatzz> i THINK i put it in global, but not shure if its exactly where it should be.
[15:17] <songohan> Camarade_Tux, how do you know it's a beta for compression only ?
[15:17] <beatzz> can i pastebin you my lilo.conf and ask ur opinion on my placement of the global option "large-memory"
[15:17] <beatzz> ?
[15:17] <thumbs> beatzz: yes
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[15:18] <Alan_Hicks> beatzz: No.  Use make menuconfig rather than editing the .config file by hand.
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[15:19] <beatzz> thumbs, http://pastebin.com/d43e3cad
[15:19] <Camarade_Tux> songohan: no, I mean the bugs are almost always in the compression, not decompressions (it's easier to do decompression that compression)
[15:19] <beatzz> Alan_Hicks, isent that for kernel configuring?
[15:19] <Alan_Hicks> beatzz: yes
[15:19] <Alan_Hicks> Oh, sorry, I misunderstood.
[15:20] <thumbs> I was gonna say, it doesn't strike me as a lilo configuration option...
[15:20] <ccfreak2k> Is there a program in Slackware that can start another program on only specific CPUs?
[15:20] <Alan_Hicks> I've never once had to use large-memory or any similar options in lilo.conf.
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[15:20] <beatzz> here i will post you the readme
[15:20] <beatzz> maby im just reading it wronge
[15:20] <Alan_Hicks> This is almost certainly something you screwed up in compiling your own kernel.
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[15:20] <beatzz> http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-13.0/testing/packages/linux-2.6.30.5/README_FIRST.TXT
[15:21] <beatzz> i did the steps in the readme to the 'T'
[15:21] <beatzz> using /dev/sda1 in place of /dev/sda2, because on my machine root= /dev/sda1
[15:21] <agris> beatzz: where to put it is written in readme, and it's on top above.
[15:22] <agris> ..top above of conf file :)
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[15:24] <beatzz> agris, yea i just noticed that
[15:24] <beatzz> :x
[15:24] <beatzz> we will see if that changes anything
[15:24] <agris> it worked for me
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[15:25] <beatzz> ok, i edited it, rebooting
[15:26] <agris> and i would recommend to rechek ls -l /boot/ for link files
[15:26] <beatzz> again
[15:26] <agris> just in case
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[15:26] <beatzz> request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt-0000
[15:26] <songohan> Camarade_Tux, ok. Are there a portable version (without install) of 7zip ?
[15:26] <paul424> oobe: I run the detect-sensors command, what should I do now , do I need to restart the computer ?
[15:27] <songohan> What's the better way to compress in xz with a redhat 5 distribution ?
[15:27] <Camarade_Tux> songohan: 7zip doesn't need an install
[15:27] <Camarade_Tux> it may still write to registry though
[15:27] <songohan> RHEL5 haven't a recent version of tar that support lzma:(
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[15:28] <Camarade_Tux> songohan: xz? :D
[15:28] <Camarade_Tux> songohan: you can pipe to/from xz in tar :)
[15:28] <songohan> Camarade_Tux, yes that's the same
[15:29] <Camarade_Tux> so, you have xz or not?
[15:29] <agris> beatzz: what i did - wrote full file name for kernel  in image= line
[15:29] <songohan> i need first install a library support xz, no ?
[15:29] <oobe> paul424, load the modules that it said at the end
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[15:29] <agris> not just vmlinuz
[15:30] <oobe> then add the modprobe command to you rc.local if you want the to load each time
[15:30] <macavity> .. or just make a new file in /etc/modprobe.d/
[15:30] <oobe> yea
[15:30] <macavity> and put "install modulename" in it
[15:30] <Alan_Hicks> beatzz: df -h
[15:31] <beatzz> same here
[15:31] <beatzz> Alan_Hicks,  ?
[15:31] <Camarade_Tux> songohan: no library, executable!
[15:31] <songohan> Camarade_Tux, for the moment no. But i can install it on my server. i have the root access
[15:31] <Alan_Hicks> beatzz: Do it.
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[15:31] <beatzz> on laptop im working on, or this one?
[15:31] <Alan_Hicks> The one you're trying to fix.
[15:31] <beatzz> ok its restarting atm
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[15:32] <songohan> Camarade_Tux, xz-utils ?
[15:32] <maybe> what is the way to make system accept only login passwords more than 8 or 10 characters and contain capital & small litters , numbers and spacial characters ?   what is the idea and how can implement ?  /etc/shadow (users) & /etc/gshadow (groups)  or what ?
[15:32] <Camarade_Tux> songohan: no idea but that's a possible naming :)
[15:32] <fredoslack> no idea :(
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[15:33] <Alan_Hicks> beatzz: Specifically, "df -h | grep /$"
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[15:34] <Camarade_Tux> Alan_Hicks: you mean "df -h /"? :P
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[15:35] <sahk0> maybe: see /etc/login.defs
[15:36] <maybe> and ?
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[15:37] <sahk0> and read the file
[15:37] <beatzz> Alan_Hicks, /dev/root       141G 55G 80G 41% /
[15:37] <Alan_Hicks> beatzz: Ok, can't be one thing I suspected.  You have googled this, right?
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[15:38] <maybe> i read the file now :) thanks
[15:38] <beatzz> not yet
[15:38] <beatzz> about to
[15:38] <mancha> "PASS_MIN_LEN"
[15:38] <sahk0> im not sure if you can set all those you ask there though
[15:38] <beatzz> mancha, request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt-0000
[15:38] <sahk0> but its surely relevant
[15:38] <agris> beatzz: where was your lilo.conf file in pastbin again?
[15:38] <beatzz> everythings done correctly this time around, but it still errors on me
[15:39] <beatzz> well agris i moved large-memory to the top of file
[15:39] <beatzz> so its a little differnt now
[15:39] <agris> i lost link :)
[15:39] <agris> act. never seen it
[15:39] <agris> could you repaste it?
[15:40] <beatzz> agris, http://pastebin.com/d701d816a
[15:40] <paul424> oobe: modprobe lm_sensors
[15:40] <beatzz> theres my new one
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[15:40] <beatzz> brb, gata scrap the grill
[15:40] <zmyrgel> how can I figure out which package owns a file?
[15:40] <beatzz> cookin a steak :D
[15:40] <paul424> oobe: sorry, FATAL: Module lm_sensors not found.
[15:40] <oobe> paul424, no sensor-detect will tell you after you run it what module to load
[15:40] <sahk0> zmyrgel: grep file /var/log/packages/* is a way
[15:41] <zmyrgel> sahk0: ok, thanks
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[15:44] <tripFantastic> beatzz i'll be right over with a knives
[15:45] <agris> beatzz: have you done mkinitrd command?
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[15:45] <agris> with right fs of course?
[15:45] Nick change: McMurphy -> RPMcMurphy
[15:45] <paul424> oobe: thanks, the line  temp1:       +50.0°C  (high =  +8.0°C, hyst = +11.0°C) , means ... yeah what that in parenthesis mean ?
[15:46] <tripFantastic> read the manpage
[15:46] <oobe> i dont understand the question
[15:46] <tripFantastic> what does it mean
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[15:48] <oobe> paul424, this is what my sensors looks like as you can see its pretty straight forward http://pastebin.ca/1675332
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[15:55] <paul424> oobe: sorry :~ I don't understand it ... what does the values high and hyst mean ? Its the high and hyst are temporary at the hottest moments, right ?
[15:55] <fredoslack> dedo
[15:55] <fredoslack> are you here ?
[15:56] <fredoslack> deco *
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[15:56] <deco> fredoslack: yeah
[15:56] <beatzz> agris, yes
[15:56] <fredoslack> deco,  i've got a french message
[15:56] <deco> fredoslack: k :P
[15:56] <fredoslack> do you want read it ?
[15:56] <Scuzz> fredoslack,  was it you yesterday trying to compile texlive ?
[15:56] <paul424> oobe: hmm it cannot be, looking at your stats
[15:56] <fredoslack> Scuzz,  no it wasn't me =)
[15:57] <Scuzz> oh ok sorry
[15:57] <deco> fredoslack: pm ?
[15:57] <fredoslack> here =)
[15:57] <Camarade_Tux> Scuzz: why?
[15:57] <fluke> anyone able to tell me is it possible to convert partitions that already have distros on them from being primary to extended only?
[15:57] <fredoslack> " en 1 minute je te mets toutes tes slackware down. De ce point de vue, windows est plus dur à casser (dans le sens, on peux plus démarer)"
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[15:57] <Scuzz> Camarade_Tux, i had the same error as the guy who was trying to compile
[15:58] <Scuzz> im in 64 bit current
[15:58] <Camarade_Tux> read the slackbuild, it has a comment about that
[15:58] <deco> fredoslack: :D
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[15:58] <Scuzz> oh ok thanx
[15:58] <Camarade_Tux> iirc it's right before the ./configure line
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[15:59] <fredoslack> deco, This is not good :(
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[15:59] <Scuzz> thanx Camarade_Tux i see it
[16:00] <deco> fredoslack: you are dual booting windows ?
[16:00] <fredoslack> yes, deco
[16:00] <fredoslack> it's bad ?
[16:00] <Camarade_Tux> heretic! :o
[16:00] <mmlj4-play> is there something I need to do in /etc/ssh_config to set up tunnels, aside from "Tunnel yes" and TunnelDevice any:any" ?
[16:00] <mmlj4-play> I can get this to work on non-slack boxen
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[16:01] <mancha> Tunnel yes?.
[16:01] <mmlj4-play> I can set up the tunnel, everything looks fine, except I can't ping either remote end, from either box
[16:01] <HomerMunion> PermitTunnel yes
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[16:02] <mmlj4-play> um, that would go in /etc/ssh/sshd_config... not ssh_config
[16:02] <mancha> you mean tunnel as in TUN devices?
[16:02] <mmlj4-play> unless that needs to be in the client config file too?
[16:02] <mmlj4-play> yes, TUN
[16:03] <mancha> PermitTunnel yes (in sshd_config) will allow both pp and eth tuns
[16:03] <mancha> the question is if you want osi later 2 or 3 (or both)
[16:03] <mmlj4-play> to clarify, I'm on a laptop, trying to remote in to my router at home
[16:04] <mancha> *layer
[16:05] <mmlj4-play> mancha: layer 2
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[16:06] <mancha> then you can use PermitTunnel ethernet
[16:06] <mmlj4-play> again, I've gotten this to work with a debian box, remoted into a centos server... now I'm on slack instead of debian, but I can't ping the opposite ends of the tunnel
[16:06] <jeev> comrad, you use kde 4.3.3 ?
[16:06] <mmlj4-play> er, did I say layer 2? I meant later 3
[16:06] <Camarade_Tux> jeev: no, why?
[16:06] <mmlj4-play> sorry
[16:06] <mmlj4-play> IP
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[16:07] <mancha> bahg
[16:07] <jeev> what you use
[16:07] <jeev> did you get that box you were building ?
[16:07] <mancha> you lost me now...back to less confusing things...
[16:08] <Camarade_Tux> jeev: openbox, it's a pretty bare setup
[16:08] <jeev> nasty
[16:08] <jeev> whuy
[16:09] <Camarade_Tux> jeev: http://omploader.org/vMjZuNA
[16:09] <Camarade_Tux> jeev: and yes, the box is done ;-)
[16:09] <winter> it's not \o/
[16:10] <Camarade_Tux> it even haz a screen and a case
[16:10] <jeev> whats Poney
[16:10] <Camarade_Tux> still lacking a power button though :)
[16:10] <Camarade_Tux> jeev: where have you seen that?
[16:10] <Camarade_Tux> oh
[16:10] <jeev> muauha
[16:10] <winter> it's your ass
[16:10] <Camarade_Tux> and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pony
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[16:11] <mancha> if you're having tun problems look at your routing table, make sure you have ip forwarding enabled, and that netfilter is playing balkl.
[16:11] <mancha> *ball
[16:11] <macavity> Camarade_Tux: you are a sick and twisted person :P
[16:11] <Camarade_Tux> macavity: ^^
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[16:11] <Camarade_Tux> jeev: Linux nabucho 2.6.32-rc6 #5 SMP Tue Nov 10 14:21:19 CET 2009 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
[16:11] <winter> because he's 21
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[16:11] <jeev> cool
[16:12] <deco> Camarade_Tux: why not just use a tiling wm -_-
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[16:12] <Camarade_Tux> deco: because I have a touchpad :)
[16:12] <macavity> tilin wms require a hell of a lot more screen width
[16:12] <deco> Camarade_Tux: :o
[16:13] <deco> Camarade_Tux: real man only use a keyboard
[16:13] <beatzz> mmmm, t-bone steak..
[16:13] <Camarade_Tux> deco: laptop, I have a touchpad, why not use it
[16:13] <Camarade_Tux> (sloppy focus)
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[16:14] <macavity> Camarade_Tux: as in, it autofocuses when you hover the mouse over the window?
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[16:15] <Camarade_Tux> macavity: yes
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[16:16] <Camarade_Tux> macavity: but really because I have a touchpad
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[16:16] CTCP DCC: SEND irc.hackerthreads.org#hackerthreads 0 0 0 from highjack (highjack!n=horm@134.53.180.66) to ##slackware
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[16:16] <Kaapa> highjack: wtf ?!
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[16:17] <Kaapa> go dcc your father
[16:17] <HomerMunion> Kaapa: he's a noob
[16:17] <Camarade_Tux> good, k-lines are quick enough :)
[16:18] <HomerMunion> k-lines only stop noobs, so thats good
[16:18] <thumbs> Camarade_Tux: he's been doing that every day for two weeks now.
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[16:18] <Camarade_Tux> thumbs: he's the same one?
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[16:19] <thumbs> Camarade_Tux: I think so.
[16:19] <HomerMunion> then again, even noobs can avoid k-lines
[16:19] <Alan_Hicks> What's the point of all that?
[16:19] <Scuzz> makes the client quit
[16:19] <thumbs> Alan_Hicks: crash linksys routers.
[16:19] <Camarade_Tux> true I always see "hackerthreads"
[16:19] <mancha> how bout banning @134.53.224.*
[16:19] <Scuzz> changing from port 6667 to another port is enough to stop it from happening
[16:19] <Alan_Hicks> I know that, but what's the point of it?
[16:20] <mancha> or 134.53.* for that matter
[16:20] <Camarade_Tux> thumbs: so it's against linksys routers? I thought that was for old mirc clients?
[16:20] <Alan_Hicks> Does it give him a chubby?
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[16:20] <HomerMunion> mancha: or *.*.*.*
[16:20] <thumbs> Camarade_Tux: that too
[16:20] Nick change: elliot98 -> RPMcMurphy
[16:20] <mancha> ask him if it gives him chubbies, he's here: imp_uls (i=horm@134.53.224.43) has joined channel ##slackware
[16:21] ##slackware: mode change '+o Alan_Hicks' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[16:21] <eviljames> We should also ban eviljames!*@*
[16:21] <eviljames> wait, no
[16:21] <Alan_Hicks> Man it's been so long since I had to ban some one I'm having to lookup how. :^)
[16:21] <HomerMunion> just ban everyone
[16:21] <Scuzz> lol
[16:21] <eviljames> yeah, *!*@* is appropriate.
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[16:22] <eviljames> Camarade_Tux: Linksys routers make sense.
[16:22] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@134.53.180.*' by Alan_Hicks!n=alan@cardinal.lizella.net
[16:22] <HomerMunion> ban entire internet because some kid annoyed you
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[16:22] <eviljames> Camarade_Tux: at least, I have one between this computer and the net.
[16:22] <Camarade_Tux> Alan_Hicks: congrats! you managed it :P
[16:22] <Camarade_Tux> eviljames: you have control over it?
[16:23] <eviljames> Camarade_Tux: control over the router?
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[16:23] <jeev> wow
[16:23] <Alan_Hicks> Hmm....
[16:23] <jeev> wonder what bug that is
[16:23] <mancha> ban homermunion cause he annoys me
[16:23] <Scuzz> Alan_Hicks, you have to kick him now
[16:23] <Alan_Hicks> I wonder if reporting him to Miami University would get him expelled from college?
[16:23] <HomerMunion> mancha: #slackware-offtopic
[16:23] <jeev> someone take out macavity, thumbs and james too
[16:23] <jeev> Alan_Hicks, probably exploited.
[16:24] <eviljames> Also make sure to put a funny message in the kick
[16:24] <eviljames> Otherwise, what good is it?
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[16:25] <mancha> Homer: #slackware-nothanks
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[16:26] <Alan_Hicks> Anyone else getting bounced back and forth when running "traceroute 134.53.224.43"
[16:26] <fredoslack> Hi eviljames  =)
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[16:26] <HomerMunion> yeah wrong channel anyway 8]
[16:26] <Dominian> Alan_Hicks: oh yeah
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[16:26] <Dominian> Alan_Hicks: bouncing around like crazy
[16:26] <NaCl> Alan_Hicks: yep
[16:27] <maybe> banned mean can not login channel again with IP or username or both for ever or just some time ?
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[16:27] <Alan_Hicks> Maybe the 'Net took care of our troll all by itself then.
[16:27] <eviljames> fredoslack: salut!  cava?
[16:27] <fredoslack> eviljames,  yes nice =)
[16:27] <eviljames> Alan_Hicks: Oh that internet.  Is there anything it can't do?
[16:27] <Dominian> Alan_Hicks: troll?
[16:27] <fredoslack> i have installed kde 4.3.3
[16:27] <Alan_Hicks> Dominian: crashed a buncha Linksys routers.
[16:27] <eviljames> Let's face it, it is the ultimate porn delivery system, PLUS allows us to make witty comments about porn.
[16:27] <fredoslack> i am with slack-current :}
[16:27] <Alan_Hicks> college boy
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[16:27] <Dominian> Alan_Hicks: You mean imp_uls aka horm?
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[16:27] <Alan_Hicks> Very same.
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[16:28] <Dominian> yep he was klined
[16:28] <Scuzz> Alan_Hicks, cant a service op jsut add that to the server spam list
[16:28] <Dominian> Alan_Hicks: he always comes from *!i=horm@*   just about 99% of the time
[16:28] <eviljames> Open question: If that crashed my linksys router, shouldn't my ssh session have died as well?
[16:28] <Dominian> eviljames: it only disconnecst IRC
[16:28] <Alan_Hicks> eviljames: That depends on your TCP timeout settings.
[16:28] <mancha> if it was down long enough
[16:28] <eviljames> Alan_Hicks: That makes sense.
[16:28] <Alan_Hicks> And on whether or not the Linksys gets the same IP address after coming back up.
[16:29] <eviljames> My IP has been relatively static for the last few months
[16:29] <Alan_Hicks> And on whether or not it trusts the local network and sets up a new state connection without a SYN packet...
[16:29] <Dominian> Alan_Hicks: make that *!?=horm@*
[16:29] <Alan_Hicks> Basically it's possible. :^)
[16:29] <Alan_Hicks> Dominian: I blocked that entire /24 for now.
[16:30] <Dominian> fun stuf
[16:30] <Dominian> f
[16:30] <Alan_Hicks> fun snuf
[16:30] <Scuzz> Dominian, jsut have the dcc exploit string added to the server spam list
[16:30] <Dominian> Alan_Hicks: I saw him come into ##linux and /remove'd him instantly
[16:30] <Dominian> Scuzz: not as easy as you think with hyperion
[16:30] <Scuzz> oh ok
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[16:31] <hiptobecubic> Dominian, got the laptop working :)  Some physical problem with the button board for the power button. Took it apart, dusted everything, pressed back together really hard. Works like a champ
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[16:33] <fredoslack> deco, http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Drapeaux/0031.gif
[16:33] <fredoslack> ^^
[16:33] Action: Alan_Hicks wonders if horm nukes this ISP's linksys routers by mistake.
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[16:34] <Camarade_Tux> nah, he was properly k-lined
[16:34] <Dominian> he was klined
[16:34] <Scuzz> Camarade_Tux, thanx , that was the issue with texlive
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[16:35] <Camarade_Tux> Scuzz: thank rworkm4n :)
[16:35] <deco> fredoslack: lol :P
[16:35] <Scuzz> :)
[16:35] <C00re> blöh
[16:36] <beatzz> guess what all
[16:36] <beatzz> im installing WINDOWS!
[16:36] <jg71> süpöh, C00re
[16:36] <beatzz> muahahah!!!
[16:36] <Camarade_Tux> ready phasers :)
[16:36] <C00re> that wasnt the first time "highjack" was dcc sending shit
[16:36] <C00re> whats wrong with them
[16:36] <C00re> retards or just retards
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[16:37] <fredoslack> ^^
[16:37] <thumbs> I wish I knew where he lives
[16:38] <jg71> nuke the site from orbit?
[16:38] <thumbs> no, call the ISP and report abuse.
[16:38] <jg71> boring
[16:38] <Camarade_Tux> thumbs: http://www.maxmind.com/app/locate_ip :)
[16:38] <thumbs> then get his Internet access revoked.
[16:39] <thumbs> jg71: but legal.
[16:39] <jg71> no use if he uses a bouncer ... but just the fact that you shared the link tells me ... he doesnt.
[16:39] <jg71> it's only illegal in GB to set off a nuclear bomb
[16:39] <jg71> thank tony blair
[16:40] Action: jg71 nods and gets some food
[16:40] <Alan_Hicks> thumbs: whois 134.53.224.43
[16:41] <mmlj4-play> Alan_Hicks: you package the asterisk stuff, right?
[16:42] <Alan_Hicks> mmlj4-play: yes
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[16:42] <maybe> or http://ipinfodb.com/
[16:42] <mmlj4-play> I need to pick your brain at some point, then
[16:42] <Alan_Hicks> pick away
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[16:48] <fredoslack> deco,
[16:48] <deco> fredoslack:
[16:48] <fredoslack> est-ce que patrick passe ici, de temps en temps ?
[16:48] <Alan_Hicks> mmlj4: Start picking.
[16:48] <deco> fredoslack: yeah sometimes
[16:48] <fredoslack> yeah :p
[16:48] <deco> fredoslack: when there is a new release etc...
[16:48] <fredoslack> deco,  ok  =)
[16:48] <deco> fredoslack: so be ready :P
[16:48] <fredoslack> deco,  my dream est de lui dire bonjour
[16:48] <fredoslack> :p
[16:49] <deco> fredoslack: lol :P
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[16:50] <Camarade_Tux> fredoslack: here, take this groupy shirt, " I <3 Pat'" :)
[16:51] <deco> lol
[16:51] <fredoslack> =)
[16:51] <fredoslack> Patrick, were are youuuuu :}
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[16:51] <BP{k}> fredoslack: usually the fear of groupy behaviour makes Patrick stay away.
[16:51] <eviljames> fredoslack: you'll know when he arrives.  When you see the nick you'll go "eek!  c'est lui!!" in that high-pitched girlish french way
[16:51] <RipVanWinkle> does Pat V. have groupies now?
[16:51] <HomerMunion> why would patrick hang around here
[16:52] <eviljames> HomerMunion: He enjoys feeding trolls.
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[16:52] <Camarade_Tux> eviljames: :)
[16:52] <eviljames> HomerMunion: What other reason would he have?
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[16:52] <fredoslack> deco,  j'ai pas compris :(
[16:52] <fredoslack> traduis stp
[16:52] <HomerMunion> lower his iq?
[16:52] <fredoslack> lol
[16:52] <deco> fredoslack: lol :P
[16:52] <Scuzz> ll
[16:52] <Scuzz> lol*]
[16:53] <RipVanWinkle> feeding trolls is like tossing bread crumbs to pidgeons at the park
[16:53] <BP{k}> The Moon will be Waxing Gibbous (99.999% of Full). (##slackware default Moon setting)
[16:53] <HomerMunion> irc is like a drug...except it kills braincells
[16:53] <macavity> HomerMunion: for the good company :P
[16:53] <Camarade_Tux> nah, sometimes he has actual questions :)
[16:54] <HomerMunion> which you cant answer
[16:54] <Camarade_Tux> reminds me, anyone asked why no glib/gtk upgrade?
[16:54] <macavity> "if you dont like this feature, how do you want me to beat you up?" :P
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[16:54] <zmyrgel> has anyone compiled the latest version of aliens vlc? I get "C compiler can't create executables" error with it
[16:54] <Camarade_Tux> he ;)
[16:54] <Camarade_Tux> zmyrgel: slackware64?
[16:54] <zmyrgel> yes
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[16:54] <Camarade_Tux> you need to export ARCH=x86_64 first I bet
[16:55] <eviljames> and/or run something like: su -c 'ARCH=x86_64 ./vlc.SlackBuild'
[16:55] <zmyrgel> Camarade_Tux: yep, forgot to do that
[16:55] <BP{k}> http://slackbuilds.org/faq/#x86_64
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[16:58] <alienBOB> zmyrgel: alternatively you can just install my ready-made vlc package and save yourself the compile time
[16:59] <zmyrgel> I believe my CPU will get lazy if I don't keep it busy :)
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[16:59] <jg71> btw, speaking of -64 and multilib .... is anyone successfully using an analog haupauge tv card under slack13-64?
[16:59] <beatzz> VLC package by alienBOB is elite
[16:59] <jg71> cos i think theres some v4l borkage
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[17:01] <Camarade_Tux> at which level,
[17:01] <Camarade_Tux> ?
[17:01] <mmlj4> Alan_Hicks: well, I guess my main issue would be the things that are left out or missing (or disabled, whatever)
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[17:01] <Alan_Hicks> mmlj4: Such as?
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[17:01] <jg71> http://pastebin.ca/1675433 Camarade_Tux
[17:02] <fredoslack> Patrick, where are you my idol <3 <3
[17:02] <mmlj4> logging, for instance... I'm used to seeing logger.conf in /etc/asterisk
[17:02] <mmlj4> should I be looking elsewhere?
[17:03] <jg71> im just looking for pointers .... some other app than xawtv or kdetv (which doesnt compile on kde4 and i cannot locate those gentoo-pimped sources google tells me about)
[17:03] <Alan_Hicks> mmlj4: A lot of those config files are not placed into /etc/asterisk (only the bare minimal basically are), but the rest are present.  Look in the script to see where.
[17:04] <mmlj4> hrm
[17:04] <fredoslack> deco,  i love patrick
[17:04] <fredoslack> <3
[17:04] <mmlj4> ok, I see stuff in /usr/doc/asterisk-1.4.21.2/sample_confs
[17:04] <fredoslack> lool
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[17:05] <mmlj4> move those over... do I have to do something to get them read?
[17:05] <HomerMunion> alienbob needs to make a GNASH package :p
[17:06] <BP{k}> HomerMunion needs to look properly
[17:06] <Camarade_Tux> hmmm http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/gnash/build/gnash.SlackBuild
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[17:06] <HomerMunion> LIES
[17:06] <chopp> doh
[17:06] <Guest90738> Is anyone aware of a mirror for ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/unsupported/kde-3.5.10-for-slack13.0/ ?
[17:07] <sahk0> any mirror?
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[17:07] <HomerMunion> osuosl.org ?
[17:07] <sahk0> heres one http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/slackware/unsupported/
[17:07] <BP{k}> osuosl.org caries it.
[17:07] <Guest90738> Ah, thanks.
[17:09] <Guest90738> Much better than the 8KB/s I got from slackware.com :)
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[17:10] <__Zaphod_> what package for slackware64 has c-client.a in it?
[17:11] <eviljames> __Zaphod_: None.
[17:11] <__Zaphod_> well i need ot complie php from source.
[17:11] <mancha> thats part of UW isn't it?
[17:11] <__Zaphod_> with imap suport
[17:11] <__Zaphod_> and that requires c-client.a
[17:12] <__Zaphod_> and c-cleint won't build
[17:12] <mancha> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/imap
[17:12] <__Zaphod_> because SSL is not in the right place on slackware
[17:12] <BP{k}> hmm last time I build php c-client build just fine .. using the (al)pine sources
[17:12] <__Zaphod_> they dont' have a build type for slackware.
[17:12] <mmlj4> symlink?
[17:12] <__Zaphod_> i have alpine installed
[17:12] <__Zaphod_> but c-client.a isn't there
[17:12] <HomerMunion> so how do i build gnash with kde3
[17:13] <BP{k}> __Zaphod_: you don't need to have alpine installed. just the source there .. as per the php.SlackBuild.
[17:13] <__Zaphod_> oh, and i'm using slackware64
[17:13] <BP{k}> oh .... and that doesn't change one little thing.
[17:14] <Camarade_Tux> I should setup icecream here
[17:14] <mancha> use --with-imap=
[17:15] <__Zaphod_> i can't nuild any imap stuff with SSL because it can't find the SSL libraries.
[17:15] <mancha> if you use alpine you'll have to cpile your lib then put it somewhere safe and use --with-imap=
[17:15] <BP{k}> as far as I know, php is already compiled with impa
[17:15] <__Zaphod_> i know how to use c-cleint.a once i've created it.
[17:15] <fredoslack> deco,  do you know Police ?
[17:15] <fredoslack> i love it :)
[17:15] <mancha> -with-imap-ssl=/usr
[17:15] <__Zaphod_> the problem is creating it in the first place.
[17:15] <fredoslack> do do do
[17:15] <deco> fredoslack: the band ?
[17:15] <fredoslack> da da da :)
[17:15] <fredoslack> yes deco =)
[17:16] <deco> fredoslack: ah yeah i think i heard a song or two from them
[17:16] <fredoslack> ;)
[17:16] <fredoslack> do do dooo
[17:16] <fredoslack> da da daaaaa
[17:16] <fredoslack> do do dooo
[17:16] <fredoslack> da da daaaaa
[17:16] <jg71> need help, fredoslack
[17:16] <Camarade_Tux> fredoslack: no spam -_-
[17:16] <fredoslack> Camarade_Tux,  ok sorry
[17:16] <BP{k}> fredoslack: knock it off.
[17:17] <fredoslack> jg71,  you need help .
[17:17] <fredoslack> ?
[17:17] <__Zaphod_> grrr..
[17:17] <__Zaphod_> why is this distribution s hostile to bulding from source?
[17:18] <Camarade_Tux> *this* distribution? :o
[17:18] Action: The_Seeker feels a storm brewing
[17:18] Action: fire|bird hears thunder in the distance. 
[17:18] Action: deco hides
[17:18] <__Zaphod_> most of the problems have been with ssl.
[17:19] <jg71> Camarade_Tux, back to my woes with tv ... thing is ... it kinda works on slack13-32 ... on -64 it craps in my front yard. im sure it's not of fredoslack camping there .... so ... good thing i dont like tv that much, eh ;)
[17:19] <__Zaphod_> anyway tiem to see if alpine knows how to find the slackare SSL libs
[17:20] <BP{k}> __Zaphod_: any reason you want to compile php instead of just installing a slackware package?
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[17:20] <__Zaphod_> to iclude my desired modules in php
[17:20] <BP{k}> __Zaphod_: php is already build with imap
[17:20] <BP{k}> but then again, that was already mentioned a couple of times.
[17:20] <__Zaphod_> i am being forced to build from source.
[17:20] <Camarade_Tux> jg71: lol :p
[17:21] <mancha> why not use the build script then and tweak that?
[17:21] <BP{k}> __Zaphod_: use the slackbuild (also mentioned a couple of times)
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[17:23] <__Zaphod_> okay, looks like alpine's build script isnt' as braindead as the standard imap build one.
[17:23] <__Zaphod_> and seems to have found ssl.
[17:23] <__Zaphod_> stil stupid that i have to compile my own copy just to get that library, but oh well.
[17:23] <macavity> droool... ioXtreme drives... droool :P
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[17:24] <beatzz> BP{k}, sup home dog!!!!
[17:24] <__Zaphod_> that file shoudl be included in the package...
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[17:24] <Nick_Patterson> What is a "home dog"?
[17:25] <eviljames> Nick_Patterson: That's a dog that doesn't leave the house.
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[17:25] <Nick_Patterson> Oh, like a home body. :P
[17:25] <beatzz> Nick_Patterson, i dont know, it just sounded....funny, in like a sarcastic lame kinda way
[17:25] <The_Seeker> nite all
[17:25] <Camarade_Tux> night The_Seeker
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[17:26] <Nick_Patterson> Because I've heard "sup dog?" and "sup homes".... :P
[17:26] <Nick_Patterson> beatzz: Sounds like your CPU is neural net, a learning computer.
[17:26] <zmyrgel> sigh, found whats my problem with multilib has been
[17:27] <zmyrgel> It works better if you use 32-bit packages as compat packages
[17:27] <zmyrgel> :)
[17:28] <macavity> to me it just sounds like he want to be "down with da gang in da hizhouse" or something :P
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[17:28] <beatzz> sounds like i gata go put a movie on for my kids...
[17:28] <beatzz> :(
[17:28] <mancha> sup dawg, ya feel me?
[17:28] <HomerMunion> destroy their minds!
[17:28] <BP{k}> s/hiz/shiz/
[17:28] <Camarade_Tux> zmyrgel: good :)
[17:29] <beatzz> mancha, word homie
[17:29] <RipVanWinkle> i know a good movie, "Night of the Hunter" starring Robert Michum
[17:29] <beatzz> Snoop Dogg - Up jump the boogie.mp3
[17:29] <beatzz> classic rap ^
[17:29] <HomerMunion> abbreivated c.rap
[17:29] <beatzz> :p
[17:30] <Camarade_Tux> Edguy's Wasted Time? :)
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[17:30] <deco> Camarade_Tux: edguy!!!
[17:31] <Nick_Patterson> beatzz: Everything post Doggystyle is not "classic rap"
[17:31] <HomerMunion> beatzz: just get your kids a flu shot and they will stare at the wall instead of annoying you
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[17:31] <deco> HomerMunion: they will start walking backwards
[17:31] <beatzz> Nick_Patterson, The Doggfather is a great album
[17:31] <HomerMunion> REDRUMMMM REEEEDRUMMM
[17:31] <beatzz> same w/ 'Tha Last Meal'
[17:32] <beatzz> worth listenin to.
[17:33] <beatzz> HomerMunion, excllent advice :P
[17:33] <HomerMunion> i modified the gnash slackbuild but it still says i specified building kde4....
[17:33] <HomerMunion> and cleared the /tmp/build directory...  checking for KDE 4.x header path... configure: error: You specified building kde4, but you have kde3 installed!
[17:33] <Camarade_Tux> xpaint is reallly broken
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[17:34] <HomerMunion> Camarade_Tux: try gimp!
[17:34] <Camarade_Tux>  ^^
[17:34] <HomerMunion> its new!
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[17:37] <Guest90738> Well, quick bug fixing for KDE4 and QT in -current managed to barely keep me from downgrading to KDE 3.5 again.
[17:37] <Guest90738> But for now all is well.
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[17:37] <HomerMunion> s/downgrading/upgrading/
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[17:38] <Guest90738> Well yes, you could almost call it that.
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[17:39] <Guest90738> But not quite, KDE4 has some strong points.
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[17:40] <Guest90738> For instance, it has none of the bugs that were present in the printer configuration in the control panel.
[17:40] <Guest90738> You know why?
[17:40] <Guest90738> Because it has no printer configuration!
[17:40] <Guest90738> Now how cool is that :D
[17:42] <HomerMunion> thats progress, microsoft style
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[17:42] <Guest90738> Well, it should be back by February.
[17:43] <HomerMunion> i feel like killing a hobo tonight
[17:43] <Camarade_Tux> go on!
[17:43] <HomerMunion> it's been a while
[17:44] <Guest90738> Great idea, you bindlestiff.
[17:45] <HomerMunion> ultraviolence, my droog, ultraviolence
[17:46] Action: jg71 thinks "so sad, those guys dont know about jim being gay."
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[17:48] <jg71> meaning: i dont know what you are on about, but that jim reference was funny. and you missed it. so now please, back to topic.
[17:49] <HomerMunion> jg71: no u
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[17:49] <jg71> HomerMunion, no reenold
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[17:52] <HomerMunion> propaganda sounds much more awesomer read through espeak
[17:53] <cr3rzemjest> how do i install 32bit programs on 64bit slackware? like wine. they say i dont need to compile any special fancy version, just normal slackware package
[17:54] <HomerMunion> who are they?
[17:54] <zmyrgel> cr3rzemjest: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib
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[17:54] <cr3rzemjest> the ppl who made the wine website
[17:55] <Guest90738> Webmasters are experts on compiliation.
[17:55] <HomerMunion> i just run 32-bit cuz im afraid of multilib hax
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[17:55] <HomerMunion> a hassle for no gain if you dont have way more memory than you should
[17:56] <Guest90738> Maybe, but in praxis, how many 32bit-only apps do you use?
[17:56] <cr3rzemjest> meh, too much to read i just wanted to see how wine works on 64bit
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[17:57] <Guest90738> I've been running Slamd64 for quite some years now.
[17:57] <jg71> and look what it did to you!
[17:57] <HomerMunion> Guest77649: and why
[17:57] <Guest90738> HomerMunion: because I _can_.
[17:57] <Guest90738> :D
[17:57] <HomerMunion> i can too, but i dont bother
[17:57] <Guest90738> And because there are benchmarks that show that it's faster if you believe religiously in it.
[17:58] <HomerMunion> i also dont recompile all slackware binaries for my cpu
[17:58] <Guest90738> If I wanted that I'd choose a distro that's slightly more friendly to that.
[17:58] <HomerMunion> nor waste federal reserve notes on more ram than i'd get a benefit from
[17:59] <Guest90738> Well, arguably RAM is a better investment than your federal reserve notes ;)
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[17:59] <HomerMunion> not if you buy gold instead
[17:59] <cr3rzemjest> also, why is there 32,64 but no 128 bit.... it would be cooler
[17:59] <Guest90738> Not sure, DDR2 prices are skyrocketing.
[17:59] <HomerMunion> or crack...crack is good
[18:00] <HomerMunion> especially cia crack
[18:00] Action: deco is looking for a nice wm
[18:00] <cr3rzemjest> or crackers
[18:00] <macavity> in my case it is the oposite: i dont need a single thing that cant do with a 32 bit adress space
[18:00] <jg71> macavity, can i quote that?
[18:01] <macavity> jg71: not in 5 years you cant :P
[18:01] Action: jg71 prints tshirts ... later on
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[18:01] <Guest90738> Since I've exported the concept of bookmarks to browser tabs, I've been needing my RAM.
[18:02] <HomerMunion> in 5 years gcc will only compile for 64 bit
[18:02] <macavity> jg71: however.. the web will have to become one motherload of flash and java for my browser to need that much...
[18:02] <HomerMunion> Guest77649: ADD much?
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[18:02] <macavity> jg71: and yes, short of compiling crap, the browser is what eats up the most memory here
[18:02] <Guest90738> What? People who have bookmarks have ADD?
[18:02] <jg71> macavity, i hope one can still mention java & flash in 5 years .... and live
[18:03] <macavity> lol
[18:03] <jg71> but first, 2012  :)
[18:03] <HomerMunion> Guest77649: you said you use tabs now
[18:03] <macavity> i hope people will look at you with fond memories and go: "oh yes.. remember when we put flash and java to the wall?"
[18:03] <Guest90738> HomerMunion: yes but the concept is exactly the same.
[18:04] <Guest90738> Except, instead of looking up the bookmark, I look up the tab and have it instantly loaded.
[18:04] <macavity> ok, personally i dont hate java that much.. but flash *needs to go, and needs to go now*
[18:04] <Guest90738> Tis better for the web too.
[18:04] <deco> macavity: ++
[18:04] <straterra> java isnt going anywhere
[18:04] <jg71> ha. we can only hope google doesnt fill out those spots.... it's freakingly active
[18:04] <HomerMunion> Guest77649: 99% of internet sites are not worth bookmarking
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[18:04] <straterra> one item...bluray players
[18:04] <Guest90738> straterra: that means it's not going.. either way, though.
[18:04] <macavity> straterra: your kidding me?!?
[18:04] <Guest90738> I don't even have a java plugin installed.
[18:05] <straterra> no?
[18:05] <straterra> bluray players run java
[18:05] <HomerMunion> java should be disabled
[18:05] <jg71> one thing i know of bluray players is ... from pirated movies.
[18:05] <Guest90738> Since Geocities went down, I've not seen a single website that requires it.
[18:05] <jg71> thats the only thing.
[18:05] <macavity> straterra: DB+ is implemented in java, or java is part of the spec?!?
[18:05] <macavity> *BD+
[18:05] <straterra> java is a required part to get ceritifed
[18:05] <HomerMunion> DeeDerp?
[18:06] <straterra> certified
[18:06] <macavity> that is craptastic...
[18:06] <fredoslack> gn
[18:06] <Camarade_Tux> anyone remember the kernel tool/script to recreate the .config out of a running kernel along with the loaded modules?
[18:06] <macavity> nn fredoslack
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[18:06] <deco> fredoslack: bonne nuit
[18:06] <macavity> deco: "have a boner in the night"?
[18:06] <macavity> :P
[18:06] <HomerMunion> Camarade_Tux: /proc/config ?
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[18:06] <deco> macavity: ?????
[18:06] <deco> o-O
[18:07] <macavity> Camarade_Tux: zcat /proc/config.gz > .config
[18:07] <Camarade_Tux> HomerMunion: no
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[18:07] <Camarade_Tux> macavity: no
[18:07] <Camarade_Tux> it's not there
[18:07] <macavity> Camarade_Tux: lsmod, mangle it, and call modprobe on them :P
[18:07] <HomerMunion> yes
[18:07] <Camarade_Tux> macavity: there is a tool that does it and does it well :P
[18:07] <macavity> Camarade_Tux: then you did not compile in support for it on your own costom kernel
[18:07] <HomerMunion> cat
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[18:07] <HomerMunion> custdumb kernel
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[18:07] <Camarade_Tux> macavity: vendor-supplied kernel (yeeloong! mips64)
[18:08] <deco> macavity: oh i get now.. :P
[18:08] <straterra> eh
[18:08] <deco> get it*
[18:08] <macavity> deco: ^-^
[18:08] <HomerMunion> yeah boner = hard weiner
[18:08] <HomerMunion> i get it!
[18:08] <deco> HomerMunion: not that
[18:08] <straterra> ...
[18:09] Action: macavity chuckles
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[18:09] <HomerMunion> macavity: humor!!? irc??? you supposed to cry troll!
[18:09] <jg71> oh... wiener wurst... with mustard... good idea
[18:10] <macavity> O_O
[18:10] <macavity> mmmmmmkaaaay....
[18:10] <deco> HomerMunion: that wasn't funny
[18:10] <Nick_Patterson> Do people still say "I just popped a boner when she ....."?
[18:10] <HomerMunion> deco: blame macavity
[18:10] <jg71> "bit her tongue" . NO
[18:10] <EasyTUX> Anyone got a couple of tries with pulseaudio ?
[18:10] <deco> HomerMunion: you didn't understand in the first place
[18:10] <HomerMunion> deco: HEY i know what a boner is!
[18:11] <deco> HomerMunion: not that!!
[18:11] <macavity> :P
[18:11] <HomerMunion> mwuahaha
[18:11] <macavity> this is getting good
[18:11] <HomerMunion> macavity: refresh thine drink sir
[18:11] <straterra> this is getting stupid
[18:11] <macavity> deco: btw, what language is that?
[18:11] <deco> macavity: french
[18:12] <macavity> ok.. so now i know how to not misunderstand french women if they wish me a good night :P
[18:12] <deco> -_-
[18:12] <deco> ....
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[18:12] <HomerMunion> deco is a girl?!!
[18:12] Action: HomerMunion pants
[18:12] <deco> god this is stupid
[18:12] <straterra> who fucking cares?
[18:12] Action: deco goes away
[18:13] <HomerMunion> or depants even
[18:13] <EasyTUX> macavity: A good night means good wanking dude...
[18:13] <EasyTUX> :P
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[18:13] <HomerMunion> ahaha
[18:14] <macavity> >_<
[18:14] <HomerMunion> gnash takes forever to compile
[18:15] <macavity> does someone have a good technical problem we can throw our minds at? :P
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[18:15] <OclkdMan> hi all. i've searching a goog VideoEditor for linux. i've found this lives.sourceforge.net and this cvs.cinelerra.org. do you know other good ones?
[18:15] <HomerMunion> mein bonne esch stuk en dein slackware 13.0 compacten dishc
[18:16] <Camarade_Tux> macavity: yeah, I have pictures of my computer reflected on my mp3 player, can you zoom enough to see what is being written on IRC? :)
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[18:16] <HomerMunion> macavity: halpz!
[18:17] <HomerMunion> OclkdMan: i think those are the best
[18:17] <macavity> sorry.. i dont speak german
[18:17] <Camarade_Tux> macavity: http://pers.yaxm.org/nabucho/shot0007.png and http://pers.yaxm.org/nabucho/shot0008.png
[18:17] <alienBOB> HomerMunion can't either
[18:17] <HomerMunion> macavity: that was fake german
[18:18] <macavity> ich weis doch das so einfach ist, aber ich sprecke nicht den gesprach
[18:18] <alienBOB> Google translates badly macavity
[18:19] <maybe>   cms content management system like drupal or wordpress or joomla can install on slackware directly by traditional unix way  unpack then  cd then ./config  ... etc ? or must make another steps
[18:19] <OclkdMan> HomerMunion: thx. i'll try LiVES
[18:19] <Camarade_Tux> maybe: you mean, make && make install ?
[18:20] <macavity> alienBOB: actually that was as much german as i could mange to produce on my own
[18:20] <maybe> yes
[18:20] <alienBOB> Btw macavity have you seen that http://translate.google.com/ is able to translate live as you type? Awasome feature
[18:21] <alienBOB> I run my wordpress blog on Slackware - no make required, just running a php web script for configuration
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[18:24] <eviljames> Wussten Sie, dass die Menschen buttcheeks haben?
[18:24] <eviljames> I don't think the live translate is working as I expected it to.
[18:25] <Camarade_Tux> I think it's ok actually
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[18:26] <Camarade_Tux> macavity: how's the picture improvement coming? ;p
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[18:26] <veritos> Anyone have any experience with n2rrd?
[18:27] <macavity> Camarade_Tux: i give up :P
[18:28] <Camarade_Tux> come on, I'm sure you can read it :D
[18:28] <kitche> so is freenode under attack or something today?
[18:28] <HomerMunion> kitche: hopefully
[18:28] <Camarade_Tux> and compare http://pers.yaxm.org/nabucho/shot0008.png and http://pers.yaxm.org/nabucho/shot0009.png , see how the player's light appears everywhere on the picture, especially where it shouldn't, that's a good webcam I have :)
[18:29] <HomerMunion> its not very free...you might have noticed
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[18:29] <maybe> generally if software not installed by default on slackware and not included in slackbuilds.org .. what required to install it on slackware ?
[18:30] <kitche> every time I reconnect my screen I see dumb dcc
[18:30] <HomerMunion> woooo gnash completed compiling but couldnt find slack-desc so it has to restart woooo
[18:30] <Camarade_Tux>  :)
[18:30] <HomerMunion> nother hour, nother 6 pack
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[18:31] <tuxdev> maybe, either you can dump it in /usr/local, try to make a package manually or :-D use src2pkg
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[18:32] <tuxdev> *note that I hack on src2pkg
[18:33] <maybe> how can i learn make a package ? suitable tutorials ?
[18:34] <macavity> maybe: i build packages by hand
[18:34] <macavity> maybe: the best way is to download a simple .SlackBuild for something else and read it.. if you know basic shell scripting it should be self explaining
[18:35] <sahk0> maybe: slackbuilds.org has documentation and all
[18:35] <maybe> so the key is learn shell script :) i guess
[18:35] <jg71> and all....
[18:35] <macavity> there are a few gotchas sometimes, but generally, if the package uses gnu autotools (./configure), it is a walk in the park
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[18:37] <macavity> here is the short version: untar the source, cd into it, ./configure --your-options, make, make install DESTDIR=/tmp/somewhare, cd /tmp/somewhere, makepkg yourpackage-x.y.z-1.txz
[18:38] <macavity> .. but you should probably look over a few good .SlackBuild files to see it in its intirety
[18:38] <maybe>  ok traditional tarball
[18:38] <tuxdev> my short version is "src2pkg /path/to/source.tar.gz" ;-)
[18:38] <tuxdev> magic happens and out pops a package in /tmp
[18:38] <macavity> tuxdev: does src2pkg strip binaries and compress manpages?
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[18:38] <tuxdev> yes
[18:39] <macavity> ok, dandy tool :
[18:39] <macavity> P
[18:39] <veritos> src2pkg just does the normal ./configure, make, make install DESTDIR=fakeroot dance?
[18:39] <tuxdev> that's one path
[18:39] <tuxdev> it can use a LD_PRELOAD wrapper and union mounts to do the file capture as well
[18:40] <tuxdev> and supports other build systems like CMake and SCons
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[18:41] <maybe> what the expected time needed approximately hours or days
[18:41] <tuxdev> for what?
[18:41] <maybe> implement package
[18:41] <maybe> learn then try
[18:42] <Camarade_Tux> src2pkg is really a nice tool ;-)
[18:42] <macavity> in my case, minutes
[18:42] <maybe> :) you expert
[18:42] <macavity> no, that is how long it took me to learn it
[18:42] <Camarade_Tux> he didn't say how many minutes :)
[18:42] <tuxdev> Camarade_Tux, on behalf of gnashley as well, thanks
[18:43] <macavity> Camarade_Tux: less minutes than justifying counting in hours :P
[18:43] <Camarade_Tux> tuxdev: he, what for?
[18:43] <macavity> maybe: but i had the upper hand thugh.. i had build an LFS system a couple of times, and some of the "magic" i was already used to
[18:44] <tuxdev> for the complement.  I *do* hack on src2pkg.. which is why I'm shamelessly plugging it
[18:44] <macavity> tuxdev: ok, could you get it approved on slackbuilds.org?
[18:45] <Camarade_Tux> tuxdev: he ;-)
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[18:47] <macavity> 22:24 Warning: Port sent with DCC request is a lowport (0, unknown) - this isn't normal. It is possible the address/port is faked (or maybe someone is just trying to bypass firewall)
[18:47] <macavity> 22:24 DCC SEND from highjack [0.0.0.0 port 0]: irc.hackerthreads.org#hackerthreads [0B bytes] requested in channel ##slackware
[18:47] <macavity> what the *fsck* is that about?!?
[18:47] <Camarade_Tux> macavity: he got k-lined
[18:47] <Camarade_Tux> macavity: that crashes some linksys routers
[18:47] <macavity> good :-)
[18:47] <kitche> macavity: freenode has been underattack it seems today
[18:47] <Camarade_Tux> and we actually got around 8 people disconnecting
[18:48] <macavity> O_O
[18:48] <Camarade_Tux> linksys routers
[18:48] <HomerMunion> didnt work
[18:49] <tuxdev> macavity, as in approved as *the* build scripting tool over straight bash?
[18:49] <Camarade_Tux> but scr2pkg needs a recompile of tar
[18:49] <Camarade_Tux> tuxdev: oh yeah, btw, has it been tested on slackware64?
[18:49] <tuxdev> not really needs, it just does it to guarantee that the right version of tar exists
[18:50] <macavity> if it needs a recompile of tar i dont think it is ready for prime time :P
[18:50] <HomerMunion> what is src2pkg
[18:50] <macavity> HomerMunion: scroll a bit up
[18:50] <HomerMunion> some ubuntu stuff?
[18:51] <tuxdev> Camarade_Tux, I believe so.  Haven't done so personally, but we have received and fixed some bugs relating to Slack64
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[18:51] <Camarade_Tux> tuxdev: when was the last one?
[18:51] <Camarade_Tux> HomerMunion: definitely... not
[18:51] <tuxdev> 1.9.9
[18:51] <Camarade_Tux> tuxdev: and in time? (so I don't have to look it up :P )
[18:52] <HomerMunion> i saw ubuntu people talking about it
[18:52] <HomerMunion> like its the greatest thing since less INSTALL
[18:52] <tuxdev> yeah, it was released a couple weeks after Slack64
[18:53] <tuxdev> HomerMunion, the next version has support for creating debian packages
[18:53] <Camarade_Tux> tuxdev: gotta check again then :)
[18:53] <HomerMunion> ahh...ubuntu hax0rs must have pre-release alpha beta versions
[18:53] <tuxdev> but we'd really like to see someone volunteer to maintain it, since me and gnashley are both Slackers
[18:54] <jeev> yeehaw vista 64 rules, firefox 521 mb ram, dreamweaver, 111, explorer.exe 435, mirc 60 meg, nvscpapisvr <- wtf is this, 30 megs, pidgin 80 megs, securecrt, 64mb, svchost, 101mb, thunderbird 173 mb
[18:54] <jeev> this calls for a reboot!
[18:54] <jeev> Time is 3:54pm, computer has been up for 1w 2d 21h 22m 6s
[18:54] <jeev> wow, that's it ?
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[18:55] <HomerMunion> so you are that guy that runs vista for 1 week
[18:56] <powtrix> astalavista
[18:56] <powtrix> box.sk
[18:56] <Camarade_Tux> iirc support for deb is pretty old, like several years, but I guess it wasn't working great
[18:56] <HomerMunion> so you are that guy that cant run win32dasm and hiew
[18:57] <macavity> tuxdev: i thought debian packages *had* to be made with black magic (and preferably with the blood of an albino lizard)?
[18:57] <tuxdev> no, that's RPMs
[18:57] <Camarade_Tux> jeev: nvscpapisvr <- this, is most probably bad :)
[18:57] <tuxdev> debian is pretty easy actually
[18:57] <macavity> oh, right
[18:57] <veritos> macavity, just try getting the install scripts out of an RPM
[18:57] Action: tuxdev shakes fist yet again at binary headers
[18:58] <veritos> (the spiritual equivalent of doinst.sh, that is)
[18:58] <tuxdev> I've gotten bash to actually parse them, but that was a *pain* and a half
[18:58] <macavity> veritos: no way! my first distro was RedHat 5.1.. i still go to counseling two times a week over it
[18:59] <veritos> macavity, Haha, I started on 6.2. Then a very nice human introduced me to Slackware a couple years later, around 10.2 or so. A tour of Gentoo and then I came back home.
[18:59] <veritos> But it's R-Hell at work, so I couldn't escape completely
[18:59] <HomerMunion> my first distro was redhat...but my friend and i dragged /usr to /var or something then installed slackware
[18:59] <kitche> I had someone complain at work because she had two linux calls that day I was jsut laughing
[18:59] <HomerMunion> thank god for that
[18:59] <fire|bird> veritos: RH 7.3 is where I got started.
[18:59] <tuxdev> I started on RH 8 or 9 cause that's what I saw at school
[19:00] <tuxdev> it didn't last long
[19:00] <macavity> i have tried most of the top 10.. the only one that got me seriously detoured from slackware was LFS
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[19:01] <neonflux> RH 7.1 myself
[19:01] <maybe> if some one use freeBSD before .. can dual boot GNU/Linux and freeBSD  ..  can GNU/Linux see freeBSD partition(s)  read/write and vice versa ?
[19:01] <veritos> macavity, I liked Gentoo a good bit, it's just that it doesn't work well with classes and Having a Life?
[19:01] <macavity> but in the end i realized that i was always just trying to see "how much of a slackware" i could get out of it... so i go an unstable home grown unsupported slackware with no community.. so i went back home :P
[19:01] <veritos> maybe, not read-write in either direction
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[19:02] <maybe> read only ?
[19:02] <veritos> maybe, linux can read freebsd (but not ZFS) partitions if you work at it
[19:02] <macavity> maybe: that depends on what you install your linux on
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[19:02] <macavity> i doubt FreeBSD has very good ReiserFS support
[19:03] <kitche> umm it doesn't have any
[19:03] <glphvgacs> where is 13 64-bit on the mirrors?
[19:03] <glphvgacs> i'm here: pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware64-13.0/
[19:03] <tuxdev> glphvgacs, some of the mirrors don't have isos
[19:03] <Camarade_Tux> it's there I guess
[19:03] <tuxdev> pick another one
[19:03] <RipVanWinkle> tds has isos
[19:04] <glphvgacs> ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware64-13.0-iso/
[19:04] <glphvgacs> but nothing there
[19:04] <RipVanWinkle> tds!
[19:05] <fire|bird> glphvgacs: http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0-iso
[19:05] <glphvgacs> RipVanWinkle: what's tds?
[19:05] <fire|bird> glphvgacs: a mirror, and the link I just gave you.
[19:05] <RipVanWinkle> a place to download slackware
[19:05] <glphvgacs> fire|bird: got it thnx
[19:06] <fire|bird> you're welcome
[19:06] <maybe> may test freeBSD 7.2 or 8 when release .. so can i see content under freeBSD partitions during use slackware 13 ( ext3) .. and can i see slackware partitions and all content when use freeBSD ?
[19:07] <kitche> FreeBSD does not understand ext3 but you can use ext2 to look at the ext3
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[19:07] <maybe> ext3 is ext2 with journaling
[19:08] <kitche> yes jsut like I said freebsd does not understand the journal
[19:08] <maybe> that is my info
[19:08] <kitche> so you need to do some extra stuff to make sure it is safe
[19:08] <kitche> hmm I just realized that Windows Mail bites
[19:09] <tuxdev> yep.  If you hard reset under slackware, it's not entirely safe to boot in BSD afterwards
[19:09] <tuxdev> if you have those partitions mounted at boot
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[19:18] <glphvgacs> is there any x86-64 optimized version of slackware?
[19:19] <kitche> umm what do you think slackware64 is?
[19:19] <maybe> 13.0
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[19:19] <BP{k}> kitche: it's for those halfbaked 128bits computers ;)
[19:19] <glphvgacs> kitche: could be ppc64, no?
[19:20] <BP{k}> *sigfh*
[19:20] <braintix> glphvgacs, slackware64 is the x86_64 edition
[19:20] <BP{k}> glphvgacs: have you done any research at all?
[19:21] <ananke> www.slackware.com, main page, search for the string '64'
[19:22] <macavity> who remembers oneforalls briliant remark about bootstrapping a 128 bit toolchain? :P
[19:22] <maybe>  glphvgacs: visit http://www.slackware.com/getslack/ then select mirror near u then download  ... for example ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/slackware/slackware64-13.0-iso
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[19:22] <Camarade_Tux> he, I just had to type "kleer-vu's" into a recaptcha box :)
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[19:29] <macavity> clavius: dont you three think you are two to many?!? :P
[19:30] <Camarade_Tux> macavity: ^^
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[19:39] <The-Croupier> greetings
[19:39] <tuxdev> hey
[19:39] <l_n> salutations
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[19:42] <The-Croupier> hows things going around here these days?
[19:44] <macavity> mostly on their legs :P
[19:44] <macavity> good night night all
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[19:49] <maybe> if i want to monitor activity on my machine like log must manually read via cat /var/log/*  what i need  ..  or there are some tools/software ready to use ?
[19:49] <ananke> define 'activity' and 'monitor'
[19:49] <maybe> watch last log last su for example
[19:50] <ananke> not sure what you mean by 'last log last su'
[19:50] <ananke> as if there was a punctuation mark missing
[19:51] <frullet> maybe: man watch
[19:51] <maybe> command last , lastb ...
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[19:52] <ananke> maybe: so run 'last'. what exactly do you want to monitor? i think it would be easier if you described what problem you want to solve by that 'monitoring'
[19:52] <ananke> sure, you can run watch -d 'last -10', but what exactly does that give you?
[19:52] <maybe> i mean watching users acivity and login  and su attempts .. etc
[19:53] <ananke> and what is that supposed to accomplish?
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[19:53] <murmlos_> Hm im trying to use a simple gallery script wich utilises php and gd, but something isnt working with gd. Its in the extension in php.ini and gd.so is located in /usr/lib/php/extensions .. Is there something else i should look for?
[19:54] <l_n> maybe: you could write a shell script to grep your logs for foo, bar, and baz. said script could then be setup as a cron job
[19:54] <murmlos_> Do i need to manually enable jpeg support or something like that?
[19:54] <maybe> good idea
[19:55] <edman007> murmlos_: set error reporting to E_ALL | E_STRICT, does that give you errors?
[19:55] <edman007> also, phpinfo() should tell you if gd has jpeg support, i think it will on slack
[19:56] <edman007> there are also two versions of gd that php supports, and the functions available change depending on what one you have
[19:57] <ananke> rather than reinventing the wheel with your own script, just use something like logwatch
[19:57] <ananke> and define the problem, before you go seek the solution
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[19:58] <murmlos_> edman007: hm phpinfo says its --with gd=shared.. Cant really see if it supports jpeg though
[19:58] <murmlos_> hm.. exif Supported filetypes JPEG,TIFF... Thats a good sign right?
[19:59] <edman007> murmlos_: scroll down, there is a whole section for gd if its enabled
[20:00] <murmlos_> edman007: Hm, doesnt seem to be :/
[20:01] <thrice`> do you have anything from x/ installed ?
[20:01] <edman007> is the extension uncommented in the php.ini? is the extension directory correct? did you restart apache after editing the php.ini? and do you have a full install of slack?
[20:02] <murmlos_> hm.. probably not, im guessing x is where the X11 stuff is? In that case no, i dont have that installed
[20:02] <edman007> as thrice` said, you may need x libs
[20:02] <murmlos_> ah
[20:02] <murmlos_> that explains it :)
[20:03] <murmlos_> And yes, the extension is uncommented, dir is correct etc.. But im probably missing those crucial x libs :/
[20:03] <thrice`> yep
[20:06] <edman007> murmlos_: if you are using the apache extension, then apache needs to be restarted for changed in your php.ini to take affect
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[20:09] <The-Croupier> hiya edman007 ;) how are  you doing?
[20:09] <edman007> good
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[20:09] <edman007> sitting in a hotel on crap internet
[20:10] <The-Croupier> edman007: long time no see man.... hows things
[20:10] <The-Croupier> edman007: in a hotel alone?
[20:10] <edman007> they call 65kB/s "High-Speed Internet"
[20:10] <edman007> The-Croupier: yea.....
[20:10] <The-Croupier> edman007: where  did you go .. in africa?
[20:11] <edman007> wash DC....
[20:11] <The-Croupier> usa?!
[20:11] <edman007> yea...
[20:11] <The-Croupier> edman007: impossible...did you hack into the internet..or you paid for it
[20:12] <edman007> well...neither
[20:12] Action: edman007 is on buisness travel
[20:12] <edman007> *business
[20:12] <edman007> so i'm not paying for anything
[20:12] Action: The-Croupier laughs nicely ;)
[20:13] <edman007> eh...
[20:13] <The-Croupier> edman007: what business is that  "slow internet not paying.com"
[20:14] <edman007> well its included with the hotel, and all hotels have "highspeed" internet that is too slow for youtube and such...
[20:14] <The-Croupier> i see...
[20:14] <maybe> in case i try use Xen 3.4.2  http://www.xen.org/products/xen_source.html  on my machine (slackware13.0 kernel 2.6.29.6-smp) what will happen to the kernel ?  just 2.6.29.6-xen or back to Linux 2.6.18 .. the site contain tow tarball
[20:15] <The-Croupier> maybe: just unpack the kernel to  another folder and  use that
[20:15] <The-Croupier> if  that works ;)
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[20:17] <maybe> a few details if have time
[20:17] <The-Croupier> maybe read  alienBOB kernel configure from  his  wiki ;) its  a nice step by step
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[20:18] <edman007> maybe: i run 2.6.18 on our xen kernel, actually i just took the rhel 2.6.18 sources and recompiled them and ran slack off it, it seems to be fine
[20:18] <maybe> ok thanks :)
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[20:18] <edman007> though i think it is 12.0 (not 13), and the host is rhel...
[20:20] <maybe> can i use xen with slackware as host with the default kernel 2.6.29.6 or xen will back to 2.6.18
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[20:25] <edman007> maybe: i *think* you can, but yon won't have the xen drivers, if you are going to do that then just use qemu, that is included with slack and has no special kernel requirements
[20:28] <maybe> qumu required CPU support intel virtual or something must CPU have. and not available on my CPU
[20:29] <edman007> no, qemu does not require it (though it helps, and a pretty lot too i think)
[20:29] <edman007> what CPU do you have?
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[20:31] <maybe> uname -a
[20:31] <maybe> Linux a2z 2.6.29.6-smp #2 SMP Mon Aug 17 00:52:54 CDT 2009 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
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[20:33] <maybe> not have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_VT
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[20:34] <fire|bird> maybe: you don't need that, it's optional, not required.
[20:36] Nick change: Guest84884 -> Masterx831
[20:36] <chopp> maybe maybe doesn't get it?
[20:36] <maybe> in this case i can use qemo from slackbuilds.org
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[20:40] <edman007> maybe: the VT stuff just gives you a virtual MMU, its not really an important feature, its just that without it VMs go a lot slower, qemu will function fine without it
[20:40] <edman007> \
[20:41] <maybe> good news :)
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[20:48] <andarius> greetings and salutations
[20:48] <maybe> is Qemu required X  like Virtual Box or no like Xen
[20:48] <hitest> greetings andarius:)
[20:48] <andarius> salutations hitest
[20:48] <hitest> how are you, andarius?
[20:48] <maybe> ok i will read more about it
[20:49] <mako-sama> maybe: afaik, qemu requires X
[20:49] <andarius> hitest: not bad I suppose. Just got bacak from the gym and am working on  chow. You ?
[20:49] <fire|bird> greetings andarius
[20:50] <hitest> I am well, ty:)  Just watching over the family, we've been hit bad by the flu, but, other than that we're okay:)
[20:50] <fire|bird> hitest: Hope everyone gets better soon. :)
[20:50] <andarius> salutations fire|bird
[20:51] <andarius> hitest: hope it is not the bad one going around. also what fire|bird said, speedy recovery
[20:52] <maybe> afaik from www.urbandictionary.com     It means "As far as I know."  :)
[20:52] <deco> .....
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[20:53] <hitest> fire|bird, andarius: thanks guys:) actually my oldest daughter did get H1N1, she recovered nicely with Tamiflu.  My youngest daughter is also on Tamiflu, and feeling better. it could have been a lot worse. things are getting better.
[20:54] <oobe> where do i find the mysql logs in slackware if not enabled by default then how do i enable them
[20:54] <fire|bird> hitest: good to hear things are getting better. :)
[20:54] <andarius> agreed
[20:55] <hitest> :)
[20:56] <macius> hey im using slack with kde as my de, and im wording why kicker isent running, has it been renamed to something else within kde 4?
[20:56] <deco> macius: lots of things changed in kde 4
[20:56] <macius> wanting to refresh my bar but doesnt seem like its dependant on kicker
[20:57] <macius> deco: would you know the process name for the kde panel then or know how to refresh it?
[20:58] <fire|bird> macius: plasma on kde 4.2.4 and plasma-desktop on 4.3.x
[20:58] <macius> alright ty
[20:58] <fire|bird> you're welcome
[21:00] <macius> hm i killed the processs and when im trying to relaunch it its telling me it cannot connect to my X server
[21:00] <macius> -S
[21:00] <macius> =S*
[21:01] <macius> nvm
[21:01] <macius> lol
[21:01] <macius> ignore that line i was just being braindead
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[21:07] <maybe> hitest if u have some time can u give your opinion about .. can GNU/Linux see freeBSD partition(s)  read/write and vice versa ?
[21:07] <maybe>  some bro says "linux can read freebsd (but not ZFS) partitions if you work at it"  & "that depends on what you install your linux on" & "FreeBSD does not understand ext3 but you can use ext2 to look at the ext3"....so can i see content under freeBSD partitions during use slackware 13 ( ext3) .. and can i see slackware partitions and all content when use freeBSD ?
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[21:20] <hitest> maybe: I've dual booted slackware with freebsd in the past. I've got freebsd 7.2 installed as a VM in Slackware 13.0, but, I'm not running FreeBSD on my HD atm.
[21:20] <l_n> i would be using fbsd if rt2860 support was there.
[21:21] <l_n> and, yes, fbsd can read/write ext2 (ext3 is ext2 with a journal).
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[21:21] <hitest> I gave up on FreeBSD as a desk top it is a bit rough around the edges.
[21:22] <hitest> I still like it tho
[21:22] <fire|bird> hitest: especially when a mouse won't even work. :P
[21:22] <hitest> yeah
[21:22] <andarius> tell that damn mouse, no work no cheese
[21:22] <hitest> hehe
[21:22] <maybe> :)
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[21:23] <Rolenun> Quick poll: What are the contents of your /etc/slackware-release file? :)
[21:24] <l_n> fire|bird: with ratpoison, ion3, etc. there is very little need for a mouse.
[21:24] <maybe> u mean /etc/slackware-version i guess
[21:24] <l_n> even less with console only.
[21:24] <andarius> cat: /etc/salckware-release: No such file or directory :o
[21:24] <Rolenun> :O
[21:24] <Rolenun> lol salckware :D
[21:25] <deco> Rolenun: you mean slackware-version ?
[21:26] <Rolenun> lol, yes, sorry....used to other distros :)
[21:26] <deco> Rolenun:  tuxmachine% cat /etc/slackware-version
[21:26] <deco> Slackware 13.0.0.0
[21:26] <deco> .0
[21:26] Action: andarius gets the same thing as what he pasted before :P
[21:26] <deco> current
[21:27] <Rolenun> andarius: you typo'd last time :D
[21:27] <maybe> Slackware 13.0.0.0.0
[21:27] <andarius> Rolenun: no, I did not
[21:27] <Rolenun> salckware :D
[21:27] <Rolenun> thanks guys :)
[21:27] <andarius> well, cat: /etc/slackware-version: No such file or directory
[21:27] <andarius> so... :P
[21:28] <Rolenun> did you delete it? :)
[21:28] <deco> andarius: you borked something :P
[21:28] <fire|bird> no, andarius is secretly running Ubuntu. :o
[21:28] <fire|bird> He's just trying to hide it.
[21:28] <Rolenun> lol
[21:28] <deco> and :o
[21:28] <andarius> you are both wrong. I am running crux on my desktop
[21:28] <deco> :o!!!!!
[21:31] <tripFantastic> Rolenun
[21:32] <tripFantastic> Slackware 12.2.0
[21:32] <Rolenun> woot! :)
[21:32] <tripFantastic> yay
[21:32] <tripFantastic> why did you ask?
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[21:32] <Rolenun> oh, working on gitsharp at the moment and wanted to make sure I added slackware FS support.
[21:33] <tripFantastic> taht doesnt answer my question tho
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[21:35] <Rolenun> a number of the linux distros store their files in unique locations based user, group, program, etc. Mono only provides support for one location and a variable override. Native linux support through mono still requires direct support.
[21:36] <Rolenun> lets just leave it at medium level programming unless you're a coder too :)
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[21:36] <Rolenun> I appreciate all the feedback though guys :)
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[21:40] <mrselfpwn> Flash Player 10.1 Beta released with bug fixes and gpu accelaration support.  http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[21:41] <mrselfpwn> windowlessmode bug fixed finally, thank God.
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[21:47] <seeeeek> hi
[21:47] <seeeeek> i want to forward all port 80/443 traffic from my home router to my external server which uses proxy....so how to do that with iptables ?
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[21:51] <nachox> seeeeek, google iptables port forwarding, pick an  example from there, it's easy
[21:53] <maybe> seeeeek:  http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch14_:_Linux_Firewalls_Using_iptables may help
[21:53] <seeeeek> nachox so with normal portforward command on the router will forward all clients traffic to my proxy server ?
[21:53] <nachox> oh, wait, you want a transparent proxy?
[21:55] <seeeeek> wtf
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[21:56] <Rolenun> would you settle for a translucent proxy? or maybe opaque is more to your liking :D
[21:56] <seeeeek> i already have transparet proxy...but the problem is not from the proxy side...but i want to push all the traffic from my local network by setting iptables rules in my router to forward all http/https traffic to my proxy...thats it
[21:57] <seeeeek> and my proxy is outside in the internet not in the local network
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[22:00] <nachox> seeeeek, something like this then http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-setup-transparent-proxy-squid-howto.html only the proxy is not in the local net, but on the internet so modify the addresses accordingly in the iptables rules
[22:02] <seeeeek> then whats the iptables rules....thats what i am asking for!
[22:02] <LSD`> The /win 26
[22:02] Nick change: init[0] -> init[1]
[22:03] <mrselfpwn> 26, not bad
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[22:06] <mugwort13> anyone know of a way to disable pulseaudio in sw13.0?
[22:06] <nachox> seeeeek, in the url i pasted you have your iptables rules
[22:06] <fire|bird> slackware doesn't have pulseaudio.
[22:07] <mugwort13> oh, really?  ...wow
[22:07] <deco> thank god it doesn't
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[22:08] <mugwort13> Anyone know why VirtualBox might having trouble detecting a microphone in sw?  I though it was a pusle issue b/c when I had the same problem in fedora, i uninstalled pusle audio and it fixed it.
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[22:12] <clijunkie> Hello. I've followed the instructions for a full disk encryption with success.  However when trying to use the testing kernel 2.6.30 (having used installpkg and editing lilo mkinitrd and run lilo) I'm getting a kernel panic.  Anyone know the proper steps for using the testing kernel?
[22:13] <danc3> did you include your root file system in the initrd?
[22:14] <tuxdev_> clijunkie, have you done home partition encryption first?
[22:14] <danc3> that's the most common cause of kernel panic with a newly compiled kernel
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[22:14] <clijunkie> danc3: Yes I used the same line from readme_crypt with the new kernel
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[22:15] <clijunkie> tuxdev_: No, but it works with the stock kernel, I just want to use the testing kernel to fix an ati issue
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[22:16] <clijunkie> The first indication of a problem is: RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0
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[22:17] <clijunkie> Perhaps my mkinitrd command didn't overwrite the /boot/initrd.gz?
[22:17] <BP{k}> beer time :)
[22:18] <danc3> clijunkie: dunno about the cause, haven't used encryption (and don't see why anyone would want to bother with it).  Clearly that is causing the problem, but don't know any more than that.
[22:19] <clijunkie> danc3: My reason is laptop + inner city bus = potential data in wrong hands.
[22:19] <clijunkie> I'll keep trying. Thanks
[22:19] <danc3> heh.  OK
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[22:25] <seeeeek> can someone tellme if its possible to forward all my localnetwork traffic by configuring my router iptables rules to force all the traffic of port 80 to be forwarded to my internet proxy ?
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[22:28] <HomerMunion> yes, its easy
[22:28] <seeeeek> but the proxy server is not in the localnetwork
[22:28] <seeeeek> its outside in the internet
[22:29] <HomerMunion> whast the difference
[22:29] <seeeeek> ok so you know the rule of the iptables for that ?
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[22:37] <packeteer> seeeeek: should be possible, but u prob should use a vpn
[22:37] <packeteer> as for how, google knows all :)
[22:38] <seeeeek> yeah but whats the best to search for
[22:38] <seeeeek> i need the keywords
[22:39] <packeteer> "iptables redirect" should get u something
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[22:40] <Cann0n> my parallel port gamepad is otu atuo-fire mode or something. the button repeat rapidly.
[22:41] <danc3> Cann0n: bummer
[22:41] <Cann0n> it used to not be that way until I flushed my /tmp
[22:41] <Cann0n> is there a fix for this?
[22:41] <danc3> reboot
[22:41] <Cann0n> ...
[22:41] <danc3> ...?
[22:42] <danc3> WTF does ... mean?
[22:42] <Cann0n> why don't you just tell me to google the question...
[22:42] <danc3> why?  just reboot
[22:42] <danc3> should fix it
[22:42] <danc3> seriously
[22:42] <Cann0n> eh... that's an insult dude...
[22:42] <danc3> what?
[22:43] <straterra> seeeeek: use your brain to find the terms
[22:43] <HomerMunion> if you plug it in and reboot
[22:43] <fiyawerx> ... means ellipses
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[22:43] <Cann0n> I guess my 10+ years of slackware experience is norrowed down to the MS solution... just reboot.
[22:43] <straterra> That's not a Microsoft solution
[22:43] <danc3> Cann0n: do you want to fix it, or fuck around on IRC for three hours whining, and then fix it the way I suggested?  Get on with it.
[22:43] <straterra> It's a solution that actually fixes some things
[22:43] <HomerMunion> hardware experience
[22:44] <fiyawerx> don't reboot it, IPL it
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[22:44] <danc3> you probably removed a lock file or socket or somethign when you cleared /tmp
[22:44] <Cann0n> danc3, did it occur to you that i'm not a complete idiot? rebooting was the first thing i did. don't talk down to people.
[22:44] <danc3> just friggin reboot and be done with it.
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[22:44] <danc3> Cann0n: by the nature of your question, "NO", that did not occur to me.
[22:44] <fiyawerx> Cann0n: wait, you're getting uppity about someone suggesting a reboot after you said you flushed /tmp? Did you say you rebooted after that?
[22:44] <Cann0n> i did reboot. rebooting isn't the universal remedy for everything.
[22:44] <danc3> no he did not
[22:45] <danc3> who said it was?
[22:45] <Cann0n> yeah, i've rebooted about 15 times since i flushed it.
[22:45] <danc3> (other than your ego)
[22:45] <fiyawerx> why 15?
[22:45] <danc3> LOL
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[22:45] <danc3> I'm done with this n00b
[22:45] <Cann0n> eh because it's been about 15 days....
[22:46] <HomerMunion> did you -r tmp or just clear it
[22:46] <Cann0n> cleared it
[22:46] <Cann0n> danc3, i'm not the noob suggesting a reboot first sign of failure, then flipping out over "..."
[22:46] <fiyawerx> Cann0n: there's no turbo button on the gamepad, right?
[22:46] Action: Cann0n ignores danc3 for being an ignorant fool.
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[22:47] <Cann0n> fiyawerx: it's a homemade gamepad
[22:47] <deco> ....
[22:47] <Cann0n> never had issues with it... been using it for over a year now.
[22:47] <nyRednek> can someone do something about highjack?
[22:48] <danc3> nyRednek: huh?
[22:48] <Cann0n> it's not rocket sciene. I just can't figure out why it's on repeating button commands
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[22:48] <fiyawerx> possible a bad contact?
[22:48] <nyRednek> danc3: it gets annoying to come back to a bunch of channel-wide freaky dcc send spam
[22:48] <Cann0n> nope.
[22:48] <Cann0n> it works just fine other than the repeat.
[22:48] <danc3> nyRednek: haven't seen any of that here.  What do you mean?
[22:49] <deco> danc3: happened earlier
[22:49] <nyRednek> danc3: i'll pastebin
[22:49] <danc3> ahh ok
[22:49] <fiyawerx> i mean a bad contact could be causing it to not have constant contact when you push it, making it repeat
[22:49] <rk4n3> Cann0n:  did you also happen to clean up anything in your home directory when you were flushing /tmp ?
[22:50] <nyRednek> danc3: http://pastebin.com/d2cc750e7
[22:50] <Cann0n> i'm thinking it's a command modprobe gamecon
[22:50] <Cann0n> why would theri suddenly be a contact problem
[22:50] <fiyawerx> because you've been using it for a year?
[22:50] <Cann0n> rk4n3: nope. all i did was flush my /tmp because it hit 10.5 gigs in size.
[22:50] <fiyawerx> we used to have to replace contact switches in arcade games non stop
[22:51] <danc3> nyRednek: ok, damn.  I don't see that nick here now... perhaps if there's an ops around he could be banned...
[22:51] <fiyawerx> would get all sorts of funky behavior
[22:51] <deco> danc3: it's over now ... happened like 6 hours ago
[22:51] <Cann0n> fiyawerx: this is a paralell port. there are 4 wires envolved.
[22:52] <fiyawerx> maybe i dont understand what you mean by gamepad
[22:52] <Cann0n> a game controller.
[22:52] <danc3> deco: understood, but the nickname could be banned from future visits.
[22:52] <Cann0n> you know, like an SNES controller.
[22:52] <fiyawerx> right
[22:52] <fiyawerx> with buttons
[22:52] <tecky> fiyawerx: moo!
[22:52] <fiyawerx> that make contact when you pusht hem
[22:52] <acidtripper> rworkman, are you there?
[22:52] <deco> danc3: ops where talking about it don't know what they did in the end
[22:52] <deco> were*
[22:52] <danc3> kk
[22:52] <Cann0n> yeah. it works. all the button register. it doesn't matter what button i press, they are all on autofire.
[22:53] <fiyawerx> heya tecky
[22:53] <fiyawerx> didn't know you were on slack
[22:53] <rk4n3> Cann0n:  have you tried completely powering off ?
[22:53] <acidtripper> im installing OpenOffice, and i wanna install es language pack, whats the best option to download, couse on OO page i cant find a source, there are for RPM,DEB, solaris,etc
[22:53] <Cann0n> sigh... okay. let me start over.
[22:53] <Cann0n> I am on a laptop.
[22:53] <danc3> rk4n3: you're insulting Cann0n when you say that
[22:54] <rk4n3> danc3:  haha - well, so be it :)
[22:54] <danc3> grin
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[22:54] <Cann0n> I have powered off, unplugged, rebooted, restarted, took the battery out, EVERYTHING taht has to do wit hturning the computer on and off. i wouldn't be in here if I didn't try that.
[22:54] <deco> Cann0n: did you ask god ?
[22:54] <fiyawerx> why not? this is a nice place to hang out
[22:55] <Cann0n> deco: I figured he was in here but looks like I was wrong.
[22:55] <nyRednek> Cann0n: parallel port controller? that's kinda old
[22:55] <acidtripper> Cann0n, what happend to the lappie?
[22:55] <andarius> nope, im in here
[22:55] <Cann0n> nyRednek: http://www.tolaris.com/snes-to-parallel/
[22:55] <Cann0n> it's not odd...
[22:55] <Cann0n> just because it's old technology doesn't mean it's shit.
[22:55] <Cann0n> im' using gamecon map=0,1
[22:56] <tecky> apt-get install slackware
[22:56] <deco> emerge slackware
[22:56] <deco> yum install slackware
[22:56] <fiyawerx> slackware.exe?
[22:56] <Cann0n> I'd rather stick with SBo
[22:56] <tecky> oh god no
[22:56] <tecky>  /kills fiyawerx
[22:56] <rk4n3> Cann0n:  laptop hardware, especially older, is notorious for using odd variants of chipsets
[22:57] <maybe> tecky: apt-get used with debian and derivatives
[22:57] <hitest>  cd /usr/ports/slackware...make install clean
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[22:57] <tecky> maybe: srsly? I fail at installing linux distro's
[22:57] <deco> lol
[22:58] <straterra> o.O
[22:58] <tecky> ha hitest you stole my next one :(
[22:58] <danc3> copy con slackware
[22:58] <Cann0n> rk4n3: so... why did my /tmp trigger this?
[22:58] <tecky>  /licks straterra
[22:58] <hitest> hehe
[22:58] <straterra> You can't lick me
[22:58] <jeev> straterra, when are you back to somewhere with decent latency so you can get owned again in cod4
[22:58] <straterra> jeev: I'm still in China
[22:58] <tecky> k i wont :]
[22:58] <tecky> wtf
[22:58] <jeev> bah
[22:58] <tecky> get out of china!
[22:58] <Cann0n> I man, i'm sure I've flushed it before and never had a problem with sustained comands
[22:59] <fiyawerx> Cann0n: personally not sure how /tmp would affect gamepad input really, might be a red herring
[22:59] <straterra> I leave tomorrow
[22:59] <rk4n3> Cann0n:  I'm not sure, though something that the driver need in /tmp is probably the most likely
[22:59] <tecky> YAY!
[22:59] <hitest> straterra: business trip/
[22:59] <jeev> tecky, are you the fat, gay guy from efnet ?
[22:59] <hitest> ?
[22:59] <straterra> Yeah
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[23:00] <Cann0n> hmm... the game pad worked first test I did. all i did was modprobe -r lp && modeprobe gamecon map=0,1
[23:00] <fiyawerx> jeev: "the" ?
[23:00] <jeev> ..
[23:00] <tecky> jeev: fat gay guy?
[23:00] <Cann0n> worked like a charm. Why wouldn't running than command do voodoo?
[23:00] <jeev> there was a tek or some shit on efnet, fat and gay..
[23:00] <tecky> jeev: i'm one of the three ...
[23:00] <fiyawerx> Cann0n: you do that each time you rebooted?
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[23:01] <Cann0n> fire|bird: you around?
[23:01] <deco> lol
[23:01] <Cann0n> fiyawerx: yeah, through rc.local
[23:01] <fire|bird> Cann0n: yup :)
[23:01] <Cann0n> sup
[23:01] <nyRednek> tecky: so you're out of the closet now? cool! my brother in law needs a man
[23:01] <fire|bird> Cann0n: not much, how about you?
[23:01] <tecky> nyRednek: NOOOOOOOOOO!
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[23:02] <Cann0n> started college again. woot! other than that, trying to kill time
[23:03] <fire|bird> Cann0n: cool, how's college goin?
[23:03] <rk4n3> Cann0n:  so it appears that the parallel port driver was conflicting with your gamepad driver ?
[23:03] <Cann0n> fire|bird: good. passing everything.
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[23:03] <fire|bird> Cann0n: awesome
[23:04] <Cann0n> rk4n3: wouldn't modprobe -r lp gamecon && modprobe gamecon map=0,1  restart the driver?
[23:05] <Cann0n> no... it worked like a charm until the other day. i spend a few hours on it but couldn't get it to work. finally go around to getting on IRC and here I am trying to figure it out still
[23:05] <rk4n3> Cann0n:  it would seem to me that the modprobe -r lp gamecon removes the parallel driver and the gamecon driver, and then the modprobe gamecon map=0,1 reloads the gamecon driver only
[23:05] <fiyawerx> Cann0n: what software is it autorepeating in?
[23:05] <Cann0n> ok. that's the point.
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[23:06] <Cann0n> fiyawerx: zsens, gens,  and tuxnes
[23:06] <Cann0n> js_demo shows the input as static.
[23:07] <Cann0n> even identifies it as an SNES controller
[23:07] <maybe> many thanks 4 all
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[23:09] <acidtripper> gens?
[23:09] <fiyawerx> could always take advantage of it and play games like gradius
[23:09] <acidtripper> are yo using gens on x86_64?
[23:09] <Cann0n> no
[23:09] <acidtripper> 32bit?
[23:09] <Cann0n> se
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[23:09] <acidtripper> se? where are you from?
[23:10] <Cann0n> doesn't matter. ;D
[23:10] <acidtripper> spanish speaker?
[23:10] <Cann0n> possibly.
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[23:10] <acidtripper> sos argentino boludo?
[23:10] <Cann0n> nine
[23:11] <Cann0n> nein
[23:11] <Cann0n> que?
[23:11] <acidtripper> aa
[23:11] <acidtripper> nine?
[23:11] <Cann0n> maybe I was speaking out of my ass. :D
[23:11] <Cann0n> lol
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[23:15] <Cann0n> so... i guess... i should just ake a new gomepad to see if it's a hardware issue?
[23:16] <Cann0n> or maybe I should take danc3's noob advice and just reboot.
[23:16] <fiyawerx> 16th times the charm
[23:16] <Cann0n> yep.. lol
[23:18] <nyRednek> Cann0n: i'd suggest a new gamepad to see if it is also affected
[23:18] <nyRednek> Cann0n: if it worked fine for a year, then just started doing this, i'd suspect the chipset on the controller
[23:19] <Cann0n> but it only started after I flushed /tmp
[23:20] <Cann0n> literraly... I was playing zsnes... went to change songs and notices I was low on space... closed zsnes. flushed /tmp, rebooted, and bam. controller giving issues.
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[23:21] <Cann0n> js_demo provides good results...  inputs are auto-repeated
[23:21] <Cann0n> i'm out of SNES controllers... I don't even have any PSX controllers anymore either. I should have saved one I guess.
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[23:23] <Cann0n> I obviously came at the wrong time...
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[23:23] <fiyawerx> hm, is it normal for /tmp to be 10+ GB?
[23:24] <Cann0n> when you use sbopkg
[23:25] <Cann0n> I don't use it anymore.
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[23:25] <acidtripper> fiyawerx, remove uneed files there
[23:25] <fiyawerx> acidtripper: oh mine's not, was just wondering
[23:26] <deco> hmmmm mine 812mb after using sbopkg for some time
[23:26] <Cann0n> I did the mistake of just rm -rf /tmp/*
[23:26] <deco> mine is*
[23:26] <acidtripper> ahh, yes would be fine, is for temporal files
[23:26] <Cann0n> deco... source codes will add up
[23:26] <acidtripper> is not a mistake, most temporary files are uneeded
[23:27] <acidtripper> but it's a good idea to check before
[23:27] <Cann0n> acidtripper: yeah but it tore up my gamepad it seems.
[23:27] <fiyawerx> is it possible for a module to get corrupted?
[23:27] <Cann0n> doubtful.
[23:28] <fiyawerx> i think that'd be more likely than gamecon relying on something in /tmp
[23:28] <acidtripper> mmm, impossible, maybe config, butare install programs,  which were installed
[23:28] <packeteer> gah, why can I 'host' a domain name and yet ssh cannot resolve it???
[23:29] <Cann0n> no idea. I' baffled by this. I seriously doubt it's hardware. I mean, it's 4 wires... and buttons. js_demo shows everything fine, yet it's still in turbo mode when used in games.
[23:30] <deco> Cann0n: reinstall slackware
[23:30] <danc3> LOL
[23:30] <acidtripper> what emulator are you running Cann0n
[23:30] <acidtripper> ?
[23:30] <danc3> is he still whining about his gamepad problems?  Freakin n00b.
[23:30] <deco> danc3: lol that beats rebooting huh :P
[23:30] <Cann0n> har har... why don't I just install windows ME and do the intercafe thing during an MRI
[23:30] <danc3> hehe, yeah
[23:30] <Cann0n> znes, tuxnes and gens all do it.
[23:31] <fiyawerx> Cann0n: same problem if you create a new user and run it?
[23:31] <Cann0n> s/intercafe/internet cafe
[23:31] <Cann0n> haven't tried that. it's not a user issue.
[23:31] <fiyawerx> no but could they use a common config file that your user has access to?
[23:31] <Cann0n> i could test it by su && zsens
[23:33] <fiyawerx> and 4 wires and buttons doesn't mean hardware can't go bad
[23:33] <Cann0n> still does it in su and it was the first time I ran zsnes in root
[23:33] <Cann0n> fiyawerx: but js_demo says its good.
[23:33] Action: fiyawerx nods
[23:33] <fiyawerx> just sayin
[23:33] <Cann0n> if it was a hardware problem, all the buttons wouldn't throw any input. instead, they are throwing rapid
[23:34] <fiyawerx> oh, so how bout: our customer care department today sent a lady up to the new room we're moving into next to a mainframe/server bay... to make sure she wouldn't have complications with her pacemaker
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[23:35] <Cann0n> guy at my college today got blasted up by cops.
[23:35] <Cann0n> deader than shit.
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[23:37] <Masterx831> oobe: do you have iptables script for flush
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[23:38] <oobe> yea but as someone pointed out earlier all that is really necessary is iptables --flush
[23:38] <oobe> that will drop all your tables
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[23:39] <oobe> rules rather
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[23:41] <nixchix0r> Cann0n, what for???
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[23:44] <Cann0n> nixchix0r: sup? how's the little one?
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[23:44] <Cann0n> nixchix0r: he seeked revenge on this girl that didn't like him so he smashed her car up with a crow bar
[23:45] <Cann0n> cps saw the tapes, found him, he ran. they caught him down the street and was a 4 on 1 gun fight
[23:46] <Cann0n> s/cps/cops
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[23:53] <nixchix0r> being he wasn't physically violent to a person i wouldn't think shooting him down is a great way to go. although, i wasn't there
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[23:57] <Cann0n> nixchix0r: he pulled out his gun and cracked a shot at the cops.
[23:58] <straterra> that was smart
[23:58] <nixchix0r> ah yeah that will get you shot. what a dumbass
[23:58] <Cann0n> lol yeah
[23:58] <Cann0n> I left school at the time.
[23:59] <nyRednek> Cann0n: and how long did he live after he did that dumb shit? 5, 10 seconds?
[23:59] <Cann0n> i saw the cops, didn'tknow what was going on
[23:59] <Cann0n> lol yeah
[23:59] <Cann0n> long enough to regret
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[23:59] <acidtripper> i have personal web page :P
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