[00:00] godling: we have unreal and quake for that :) of all 'realistic' games i prefer CoD. and screens i checked reminded me of cs, which i don't have any good feelings for :D [00:02] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-240-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [00:02] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:02] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-184-136.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:02] The last FPS I really got into was UT [00:02] That was a long time ago. :P [00:02] oh man [00:02] iuse to play UT after school, cause my buddy had the keys to the computer lab [00:03] good times [00:05] lol [00:10] good times, indeed [00:10] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:10] even better they still last %) [00:10] but now, the good times are gone [00:12] :`)- [00:12] oh, dang, my nose is off :p [00:13] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-98-249-3-190.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[01:17] when i start it, RSSowl gives me a red error: "rssowl was unable to create a browser for reading" [01:17] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:17] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: "Leaving." [01:18] i've tried to start if after creating the package with slackbuild script, and also i've tried to start the executable directly. [01:19] same problem from RC1 to RC3. (i haven't tried M9) [01:19] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:19] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:19] can someone help me? [01:19] thx [01:21] jhell (n=89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) got netsplit. [01:23] jhell (n=89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) returned to ##slackware. [01:23] is the error reproducable with M9 that is at the SBo repository? [01:23] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:28] yes [01:28] nainiu (n=nainiu@220.163.84.243) joined ##slackware. [01:28] ....if you use that script...and all the new versions [01:29] nainiu (n=nainiu@220.163.84.243) left ##slackware ("‚»"). [01:29] more directly, since rssowl requires only java, you can start it after downloading it. [01:29] i underline that i've downloaded the linux 64 bit version [01:31] hm that shouldn't be a problem. I actually used RSSOWL a couple of weeks back and it worked "fine" [01:32] in slackware64 ? [01:34] yep. [01:35] fire|bird: you here? [01:35] this is my log file http://pastebin.com/m22262483 [01:35] nyRednek: yeah [01:35] fire|bird: #studios [01:36] BP{k}: fwiw, I just built it on the laptop (64 bit) and received the "unable to create a browser for reading news" message. [01:36] i've tried to give rssowl the path directly to firefox executable....but nothing [01:37] nyRednek: Yeah, I seen ##studios. [01:37] ok... [01:37] also i have the same error "rssowl was unable to create a browser for reading" if i use embedded browser [01:37] found amsynth lacking in capabilities [01:37] also lacking in support for midi keyboards [01:38] [package request],it would be nice if some one could slackbuild *Mozilla Sunbird* [01:38] init[0]: go for it :P [01:39] namely, you pitchbend a note on amsynth 1 note, it bends it a full octave [01:40] BP{k}: :) [01:40] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [01:40] nyRednek: haha, that's a ways off. [01:40] fire|bird: yeah...zyn works as it should [01:40] good to hear. [01:40] fire|bird: and, at simplest, is only SLIGHTLY more complex than amsynth [01:43] user51 (i=75c8379c@gateway/web/freenode/x-mtkpftpmfircurbl) joined ##slackware. [01:43] OclkdMan: whne do you actually get that error. [01:43] I can't reproduce it. [01:43] fire|bird: an octave of bend is more than most can deal with [01:44] BP{k}: after i click on the title of any feeds. [01:44] BP{k}: or when i start the program [01:44] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) joined ##slackware. [01:44] fire|bird: you use opera iirc fwiw ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/1010b1/beta1/en/ [01:45] thats the one with unite also [01:46] Rat409: yeah, I've been watching it closely and actually built that one the day before yesterday. There's a new snapshot out, more recent than b1, that supports opera's widgets to run independently of the browser now. [01:46] cool [01:47] I keep a close eye on my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog, where all the snapshots get announced, etc. [01:47] bbiab [01:47] k [01:47] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [01:50] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:53] OclkdMan: hmm sorry, it all works fine for me :\ have you tried removing .rssowl2 or so, or at least backing it up? [01:53] i was reading a book on iptables there mentioned that to create rules we need to edit /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall but there is no such file , do i need to manually create that file ? [01:54] BP{k}: thx no problem....... yes...all the time i closed the program. ........now i'm searching here http://dev.rssowl.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=ui&content=unable+to+create+a+browser+for+reading [01:57] saivin (n=saivin@122.167.85.0) joined ##slackware. [01:57] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:01] OclkdMan: you have seamonkey installed? [02:01] Rat409: I've been messing with opera lately too for irc, it's a decent client, not a ton of features or anything, but good enough, and I found out how to change various aspects of it, color for highlights, etc. and even added so that in the top right corner, it shows now how many names your nick has been said. [02:09] very nice fire|bird [02:10] Rat409: Now, if they'd only implement automatic logging. :P [02:10] lol yuh [02:11] You have to File ---> Save now to save your logs. I wouldn't think it'd be that hard to implement logging for it. [02:12] probly not [02:13] I've put it on the Opera wishlist in the past, but it's not there yet. I had read that they were working on it for 10, but it isn't there. [02:13] yuh not sure if chatzilla can do that [02:15] I think that even chatzilla can do that, so I'm surprised Opera is behind the times on this. :P [02:15] yuh they develop at a fast pace,no doubt [02:18] yeah, especially lately, they've been releasing snapshots at least once a week. [02:19] slaxxer (n=brian@ip72-204-125-6.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:19] yup [02:19] i guess installpkg works with slack 13? [02:19] indeed [02:20] i get an error [02:20] installpkg http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-13.0/games/bzflag/2.0.12/bzflag-2.0.12-i486-2gal.txz [02:20] Cannot install http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-13.0/games/bzflag/2.0.12/bzflag-2.0.12-i486-2gal.txz: file not found [02:20] something new im missing?") [02:21] its for installing local files,download it and installpkg or use slackpkg [02:21] Rat409: I wish I could figure out how to have it autolog, even if with a script. [02:21] you know that bzflag is on slackbuilds.org, right? http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/games/bzflag/ [02:21] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.214) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [02:22] a pipescript would work,but i'm not quite sure on the implementation,fire|bird [02:22] but gotta be a way [02:22] Rat409: yeah, I have yet to see if it, for example, temporarily stores logs somewhere, etc. where I could have it grab those, but, I would think there'd be some way. [02:23] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [02:24] i missed the slacky.eu in the url,good catch fire|bird [02:26] slaxxer: if using gnome-slack-build its slapt-gettable. if not do it manually or use sbopkg/slackbuilds.org [02:28] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-63-3.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "morning..." [02:29] BP{k}: no i haven't [02:29] :O it is a problem?.....dammmm.....i was thinking about it since the RC1.... [02:31] OclkdMan: I think that is the browser that RSSOwl is trying to use. If that brower is missing the error makes sense. I would install seamonkey and try again. [02:31] CallMe_JC (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-63-3.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "morning..." [02:35] BP{k}: yesssss it works [02:35] BP{k}: thx a lot man..... [02:35] OclkdMan: no problem :) [02:36] BP{k}: RSSowl team could have put that "dependency" somewhere in the official site.....but nothing [02:37] cya [02:37] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.13.58) left irc: "Leaving" [02:39] That may have fixed it for him, but it gives the same error he had for me, even with seamonkey installed, and specifying an external browser in Preferences. :P [02:39] Rat409: Maybe if I strace opera, use irc with it, and see if it gives me any info that may help for logging. [02:42] /c [02:42] heh [02:43] haha, and that ladies and gentlemen was rworkman's weekly /c fail. Please join us next week...... [02:46] is there a way to ssh from an iso-8815-1 system to a utf-8 system via openssh without those encoding problems? [02:46] anyone know why it's taking freenode longer to implement ssl than it did obama to get a peace prize? [02:46] mancha: *everyone* can get a peaceprize ;) [02:47] :> [02:48] saivin_ (n=saivin@122.167.115.154) joined ##slackware. [02:48] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) joined ##slackware. [02:49] grazymax (n=grazymax@host6-26-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [02:50] saivin_ (n=saivin@122.167.115.154) left ##slackware. [02:52] saivin (n=saivin@122.167.85.0) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [02:53] samuelig (n=samuelig@16.pool85-57-150.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:53] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [02:56] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:59] morning [03:00] Camarade_Tux: i closed the door like you wanted.... [03:01] user51 (i=75c8379c@gateway/web/freenode/x-mtkpftpmfircurbl) left irc: "Page closed" [03:01] deco: good :) [03:02] :) [03:02] you must have used an awful lot of oil, I've felt nothing :P [03:02] aigon (n=rm@92.84.27.47) joined ##slackware. [03:03] night everyone have a good day/night [03:03] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [03:03] oh, I hate firefox, why does it seems like it has to execute all the javascript it hasn't been able to execute while the computer was sleeping? >< [03:04] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:05] Camarade_Tux: all the more reason to get your browser finished. [03:06] Camarade_Tux: hmmmm i forgot my undies... gonna have to return.... [03:06] argh [03:06] Action: Camarade_Tux heard his external hard drive stop/resume [03:07] wubbster (n=wubbster@24.206.157.137) joined ##slackware. [03:07] fire|bird: yeah, I'm going to some "logiciel libre" conferences today [03:07] I hope I can get a dummy application that exchanges data between several applications through dbus today [03:08] (the dbus API isn't the easiest one I've seen, lots of specific vocabulary) [03:08] (although that part won't depend on me) [03:08] (the js one that is) [03:09] firedix (n=firedix@host195.201-252-177.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:10] aigon (n=rm@92.84.27.47) left irc: Client Quit [03:10] yeah, firefox decided it had to play 10 hours worth of image slideshow*S* (ads) [03:10] haha [03:14] sahko (n=sahko@94.68.152.109) joined ##slackware. [03:27] Baby_Angel_ (i=ztfekeo@41.236.14.116) joined ##slackware. [03:27] fraktil (n=fraktil@ip68-227-80-107.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:29] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-175-140.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:29] how does one clear his mind ? [03:30] cat /dev/zero | ... [03:30] never mind [03:30] AEnima15771 (n=clbarnob@h80ad26f0.async.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [03:31] rm -rf /home/deco/.mind [03:32] dd if=/dev/zero of=/deco [03:32] even better. :) [03:32] k thanks [03:33] zsejk (n=zsejk@213.208.229.47) joined ##slackware. [03:35] boxxoq (n=ab_cd@58.33.159.152) joined ##slackware. [03:35] Action: deco cries to sleep [03:35] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [03:37] I installed scim for inputting chinese. there are many input methods that I don't need. Can I remove them? How? removepkg scim-m17n? thx [03:40] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:40] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:41] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-130.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:41] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [03:42] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:46] stickyboy (n=hugo@196.202.206.112) joined ##slackware. [03:48] spymod (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [03:48] X.h comes from which package? [03:49] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [03:51] seems the united is/are the only country to swine flu is increasingly active [03:51] sid77: X.h? [03:51] oh, the header? [03:52] Camarade_Tux: Yah... I got the wrong install CD so I'm installing X one package at a time. ;) [03:52] noooooooooo! http://packages.slackware.it/ ='( [03:53] xproto [03:53] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [03:53] basically you want the x/*proto*.txz packages [03:53] *all* of them [03:53] Shit, if I could get firefox working I'd be less useless. [03:54] packages.slackware.it is stopped ='( [03:54] What do you mean 'stopped'? Like: killall -STOP packages.slackware.it? [03:55] stickyboy: the service is down because "it was broken and rather than fixing it, the guy creates a new one" [03:56] So where's the new one? :) [03:56] Wow, that tea has no sugar. I forgot what that tastes like. [03:58] stickyboy: not ready yet [03:58] (yeah, I'd have left the old one until the new one is ready [03:58] ) bah, late [03:58] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-mcntvevziwixufez) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:58] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-mgifpagughgmblpj) joined ##slackware. [03:58] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-mgifpagughgmblpj) left irc: Client Quit [03:59] So I'm on the ftp slurping everything x/*proto* :) [03:59] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-ciurjdopmudnhtyh) joined ##slackware. [03:59] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [04:00] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:00] what do you want to compile? [04:01] Mornin [04:01] Camarade_Tux: imlib2 [04:01] Zordrak: Mornin. [04:01] morning Zordrak [04:02] stickyboy: k [04:02] well, have to go [04:02] Camarade_Tux: Adios [04:03] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: [04:04] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [04:04] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:05] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [04:05] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [04:11] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:12] Finally got all the x11 headers installed. [04:13] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.80.167) joined ##slackware. [04:18] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:19] >.< [04:19] Action: Zordrak forgot #centos is full of tossrags [04:21] juice (i=juice@ice-cold.net) joined ##slackware. [04:21] yarvin (n=yarvin@105-200-58-66.gci.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:22] You're still wrestling with CentOS? [04:23] stickyboy: i have no choice in this case [04:24] Im looking at running semiconductor simulation tools from vendors that standardise on RHEL [04:24] You're right, no choice. [04:24] We use CentOS for similar reasons. [04:24] rg31 (n=deckard@83.231.81.255) joined ##slackware. [04:26] It makes me want to cry [04:26] especially since in 98% of cases.. the tools run ok on slackware [04:27] Can you believe that I have (apparantly) just discovered a bug in CentOS 5.3's installation? [04:27] You cannot install uw-imap and cyrus-imap together. [04:27] And you asked #centos for a cookie and they refused? [04:28] You find this out JUST by doing a complete install. [04:28] And yet im the ONLY person to do this?! [04:29] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-130.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [04:29] nNavii (n=duvaz@189.183.87.187) left ##slackware. [04:30] what are the consequences? [04:30] a 2 hour installation process that fails right at the end with no option to resume.. only reboot and start from scratch [04:30] does that result in a package manager error or maybe a problem when running one of those programs? [04:35] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.80.167) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:38] it certainly is surprising [04:38] maybe it doesn't happen on every system? [04:38] seems it might have been EPEL [04:38] uw-imap isnt in centos [04:38] doing it again with only CentOS Extras [04:39] i hate it SOO much [04:39] the Confirmation screen before starting the install has Reboot as the DEFAULT action.. [04:39] along with continue and cancel [04:40] its so ridiculously painful - i want my slack back [04:41] Smeg (n=Solus@217.23.3.82) joined ##slackware. [04:42] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [04:46] fresh303 (n=fresh303@cpe-98-155-141-248.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:46] anyone have telnet server for me to test my p2p connection via telnet protocal [04:46] bwaahahahahhhahaa [04:46] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.80.39) joined ##slackware. [04:47] :) [04:47] i knew i am a funny guy [04:47] seriously [04:47] i want to connect [04:48] Uh, can't you telnet to like blinkenlights.ch? [04:48] let me try [04:48] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [04:49] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@weirdbox.ddns.playtime.bg) joined ##slackware. [04:49] Nah, it's not that server... there's another one. [04:49] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@weirdbox.ddns.playtime.bg) left ##slackware. [04:49] nothing [04:50] i got nothing dude [04:50] towel.blinkenlights.nl [04:50] You realize how funny your question is, though... right? [04:50] yeah [04:51] i am mr funy guy [04:51] stickyboy, cool [04:52] how i quit? [04:52] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) left irc: "leaving" [04:52] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) joined ##slackware. [04:52] Like that ^ [04:53] control c no work [04:53] control everything else no worlk [04:53] /quit [04:53] ^E [04:53] quit^M^M^M^C^D^D^J^J^D^J^J^S^J^J^C^J^J^C^J^J^^^^J^^^^^^^^^^D^C^C^D^M^J^J^M^M^C^C^J^J^Xkdfs^M^M/quit^M^M^M^M [04:53] >.< [04:53] i am in a strange mode with no prompt [04:54] Control+Z + kill command :| [04:54] Hold in the power button [04:55] Action: init[0] sunbird slackbuild uploaded ;) [04:55] fuck! [04:55] rg31 (n=deckard@83.231.81.255) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:55] i have to do what Zordrak said [04:55] stickyboy, what kind of server is this? [04:55] why would someone have a telnet server? [04:56] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.136.33) joined ##slackware. [04:56] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-175-140.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:57] ok, i finally was able to kill it with a 2nd session [04:58] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-83-181.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:59] stickyboy, ? [05:00] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-175-140.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:00] wertik_ (n=wertik@95-27-175-140.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:01] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:02] wertik_ (n=wertik@95-27-175-140.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:04] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: "Leaving." [05:06] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-175-140.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [05:07] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.213.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:07] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-175-140.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:09] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-175-140.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:10] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:13] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.136.33) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [05:14] fresh303: hahah wow, you really struggled. [05:14] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-175-140.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:14] You terminate a telnet session by typing: ^] and then "close" [05:15] where we mean ctrl by ^, and be sure to pick wisely [05:15] saivin (n=saivin@122.167.115.154) joined ##slackware. [05:16] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.136.33) joined ##slackware. [05:17] fresh303 (n=fresh303@cpe-98-155-141-248.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:17] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [05:21] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-175-140.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:21] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [05:24] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-175-140.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:25] hi all, i am not able to install 64-bit version of openoffice with slackbuild. [05:25] here is the error http://pastebin.com/m5df1f5ea [05:26] do i need to edit slackbuild script? [05:26] no, you need to download the OOo tarball [05:26] the link is also at the slackbuild site [05:26] or just use sbopkg [05:26] you downloaded the wrong tarball, apparently [05:26] i have placed the 64-bit tarball inside the directory [05:27] the script expects OOo_3.1.1_LinuxIntel_install_en-US.tar.gz, as the error message clearly says [05:27] but I want 64-bit OOo [05:27] you downloaded OOo_3.1.1_LinuxX86-64_install_wJRE_en-US.tar.gz, as can be clearly seen in the "ls" [05:27] change the SlackBuild then [05:27] boxxoq (n=ab_cd@58.33.159.152) left ##slackware. [05:27] sahko how do i do that? [05:28] and, to match what the slackbuild expects, do not download the version with JRE [05:28] vi openoffice.SlackBuild [05:28] saivin: you can do sudo "ARCH=x86_64 ./" [05:28] theres an x86 wo JRE [05:28] or edit the slackbuild [05:28] it's up to you [05:28] if you use sbopkg then it's automagically taken care of [05:28] jre is java nonsense, guaranteed to slow downyour box to 386 speeds :) [05:28] the version you downloaded appears to be with JRE, which probably the slackbuild does not expect [05:28] its a double fail [05:28] mancha: that is an intractable statement. [05:29] juice (i=juice@ice-cold.net) left ##slackware. [05:29] not running slackbuild for right arch.. downloaded right arch but wrong package [05:29] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:30] that means less chances of making it work, so i would download the one without the jre [05:30] fail^2 [05:30] ok, I think he gets it. [05:30] tuck 'em back into your pants [05:31] wallander (i=5e1676b0@gateway/web/freenode/x-odjkpmtqdtzbeuug) joined ##slackware. [05:31] everyone say hello to the church lady [05:31] hey [05:32] why, is she special? [05:32] we can make her feel special... [05:33] Java's type system sucks balls. [05:33] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [05:33] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [05:33] 10:33:13 < godling> Java sucks balls. [05:33] Zordrak: I say that a lot. [05:34] that was a correction [05:34] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [05:34] ive got a problem when im typing 'hugesmp.s root=/dev/hda1 rdinitd= ro' it says "reading all physical volumes. this may take a while...no volume groups found" [05:34] saivin_ (n=saivin@122.167.115.154) joined ##slackware. [05:34] and yet I could probably pull that out of my logs, verbatim. :) [05:34] do you have any ideas? [05:34] java was invented so i could enjoy unchecking the "enable java" box in firefox [05:35] It's always got to be about you, doesn't it mancha? [05:35] sheesh [05:35] ;P [05:36] hi all, got disconnected for a while i guess. godling thanks a lot. "ARCH=x86_64 ./openoffice.org.SlackBuild" worked... [05:36] sweet momma! good deal. [05:37] make sure you use 3.1.1, the others have sploits (3.1.1 surely does too but not as public) [05:37] srecko (n=srecko@93.138.65.65) joined ##slackware. [05:38] Nick change: spymod -> spmd [05:38] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [05:38] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [05:38] wallander: sounds like it's looking for a LVM [05:40] saivin_ (n=saivin@122.167.115.154) left ##slackware (""problem with network or irssi?""). [05:43] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [05:47] saivin (n=saivin@122.167.115.154) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:48] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.80.39) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:52] this user interface is such a kludge :D [05:52] mingdao: i see [05:52] Java makes kludging so easy [05:53] godling: honestly, it's a real pita to get anything done correctly on java, especially if you're doing gcj for 'native' binaries [05:57] wallander: Can you give some more information? Are you trying to get into a hosed system? [05:57] got some problem with lilo [05:58] I always use Sun's toolset for java, nyRednek [05:58] 'bios data check successful' after its all black [05:59] godling: why would you do that? [05:59] wallander: What have you changed recently? Your root partition might be /dev/vg/root [05:59] nyRednek: it's what my professors use [05:59] godling: ah... [06:00] i'm just sitting here procrastinating...the wife is asleep and i can't take another pill for a few hours [06:00] Java offers some elegant solutions in some cases but I generally try to avoid it (which is unfortunate because my university teaches Java primarily). [06:00] and the back hurts too much to sequence [06:01] godling: well, java is one of the few objective languages that is strictly object-oriented [06:01] there's also smalltalk [06:01] and i'm sure there are others that i don't recall [06:02] the problem with smalltalk, ibm owns it [06:03] mingdao: updating the kernel [06:03] the problem with smalltalk... it's shit. [06:03] wallander: after updating the kernel did you make a new initrd image and edit /etc/lilo.conf and rerun lilo? [06:04] packeteer (n=zed@ppp121-44-141-108.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:04] Ah, hah... alsa dmix... hakuna! [06:05] mingdao: not from what i can remember [06:05] wallander: do you still have the old kernel available? [06:05] wallander: You should NEVER remove a working kernel when upgrading/building a new kernel.. [06:06] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166017197.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:06] understood [06:06] wallander: do you still have the old kernel available? [06:06] Baby_Angel_ (i=ztfekeo@41.236.14.116) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [06:07] yeah [06:07] mingdao: is it ok if i pm you? [06:08] wallander: yes [06:08] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-175-140.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [06:11] mrunderstood (n=michael@69.63.23.238) joined ##slackware. [06:11] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:11] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:13] chaplja (n=jordan@unaffiliated/chaplja/x-3420176) joined ##slackware. [06:13] srecko (n=srecko@93.138.65.65) left ##slackware. [06:14] mrunderstood (n=michael@69.63.23.238) left irc: "Leaving" [06:14] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:15] wallander (i=5e1676b0@gateway/web/freenode/x-odjkpmtqdtzbeuug) left irc: "Page closed" [06:17] ugh, humidity at 55% [06:18] or 63, 79, or 80% depending what website you ask [06:18] heh [06:22] wallander (n=wallande@d688.ip15.netikka.fi) joined ##slackware. [06:24] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-175-140.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:25] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-65-65.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [06:25] Wow.. CentOS install complete! and it only took 5 hours of monitored interactive installation [06:26] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:34] hba (n=hba@189.188.116.148) joined ##slackware. [06:34] hi all, gm :) [06:35] im having a problem in a vm (vmware) with slackware-13.0, i get this same error when booting with vmlinuz-generic-smp, https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/mount-mounting-devsda2-on-mnt-failed-invalid-argument-556385/, some idea about this problem? [06:36] CountryPumpkin (n=foo@4.238.248.15) joined ##slackware. [06:36] CountryPumpkin (n=foo@4.238.248.15) left irc: Client Quit [06:37] t0f (n=foo@4.238.248.15) joined ##slackware. [06:39] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [06:43] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-83-181.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:53] When you issued "hugesmp.s root=/dev/hda1 rdinitd= ro" ? [06:56] mingdao, with hugesmp i dont have the problem, booting from cd or from lilo with it. [06:57] hba: sorry, that was for someone else and I pasted in the wrong channel [06:57] mingdao, lol :) [07:05] t0f (n=foo@4.238.248.15) left irc: [07:05] yarvin (n=yarvin@105-200-58-66.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [07:06] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [07:09] ugh... stripped CentOS right down after install.. rl3 etc, min services [07:09] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-83-181.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:09] but its STILL using 235M RAM and im running in some kind of Xen environment i never asked for and was never asked about [07:09] I would rather use WinXP than this vile shit [07:14] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:14] lol. [07:15] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Client Quit [07:15] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:17] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:19] packeteer (n=zed@ppp121-44-141-108.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:23] asciiportal is awesome [07:24] still rather play Portal [07:24] I've never played Portal. [07:24] I would like to try it. [07:24] d/l it [07:25] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-96.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [07:25] is it a free download? [07:25] pff [07:26] are you saying you're trying to promote piracy in ##Slackware? :O [07:27] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:27] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [07:28] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:28] I know someone who got a note from Blizzard because he was sharing Starcraft. [07:28] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Client Quit [07:29] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:29] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [07:29] It was interesting as I'd never seen a DMCA takedown request. [07:32] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:32] juice (i=juice@ice-cold.net) joined ##slackware. [07:32] hi [07:33] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:33] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [07:33] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: Client Quit [07:33] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.95.156) joined ##slackware. [07:33] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [07:34] i buy it if i think its gonna be worth playing.. if i just wanna try it cos im bored its not worth paying for [07:34] so I own GTAIV [07:34] Hola [07:37] howdy [07:38] man, I just downloaded eduke32 and the menu's all fucked up [07:40] spymod (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [07:42] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:45] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-183-97.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:46] I bet it's a problem with my X3100 [07:48] s/31/13/? [07:49] no [07:49] k [07:49] has some issues with a few 3d games so far [07:49] ati ftl (: [07:50] er :( [07:50] although in general it kicks ass for a low-end onboard graphics chipsets [07:50] ATI? [07:50] X3100 is Intel :) [07:50] MrJackson (n=MrJackso@173-86-37-23.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:53] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:53] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:53] oyah [07:53] wish they could all just pick normal frigginf model numbers [07:54] whats wrong with IG1, IG2, IG3, NV1, NV2, NV3? [07:55] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:56] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [07:57] The best model numbering scheme for GPUs in place atm is ATi's: No Pro, XT, SE, OMG or whatever crap, just a single number that lets you identify the series (3,4), family (3,5,6,7,8) and place in the range (30, 60, 70, 80, 90) [07:58] [OT] does anyone have a debian machine at hand with gcc and a 2.6 kernel? i need help to test something on that type of system but i don't have a debian machine at hand [07:58] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-085.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:01] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [08:01] Action: Zordrak checks all his pockets.. [08:01] nope.. soryy. no debian. [08:03] freenode should really have a debian channel [08:04] oh, true [08:04] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [08:04] i'll bring it up at the next d'oh meeting [08:05] greetings [08:05] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [08:08] spymod (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:08] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) joined ##slackware. [08:12] hows it going guys? [08:14] why is it so quiet? [08:14] here, with 299 people, 2 replied to my request in 5 minutes [08:14] in the debian channel, with 914 people, nobody replied to my request :D [08:15] MrJackson (n=MrJackso@173-86-17-84.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [08:15] this sucks, i better download debian; it may take less time :( [08:16] haha [08:16] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:16] you have no patience? 2 replies in 5 mins is pretty nice [08:16] :) [08:16] no, actually i was praising this channel [08:16] is it possible that all this people might have used the powers of /ignore in your nick? [08:16] ah [08:16] :D [08:16] obviously I must have *more* coffee :D [08:16] 299 people - 20 know what theyre talking about.. maybe 30.. the rest are permanently idle... in others: 5 knowwhat theyre talking about and theyre so sick of it THEY are permanently idle.. everyone else is awake flailing about trying to solve each others shit with sarcasm and no knowledge [08:17] I stopped reading after the numer 914... sorry [08:17] The-Croupier: highly unlikely, as it's the first time i joined the channel and wrote something :P [08:17] not that i might know..but could you post the question again..:( [08:18] Zordrak: hehe, i hope not, but my line has already been buried in the scroll buffer :D [08:18] The-Croupier: yeah, why not: (13:58:43) rg3: [OT] does anyone have a debian machine at hand with gcc and a 2.6 kernel? i need help to test something on that type of system but i don't have a debian machine at hand [08:18] rg3: page up does wonder [08:18] but uhmm... no Debian here rg3, sorry [08:19] damn man...the only machine that i have is this slackware laptop...sorry mate [08:19] same here, i only have slackware and windows in this house [08:19] maybe i can test that on monday when i get back to work [08:20] what's it you're testing anyway, out of curiosity? :) [08:20] i am testing a program for the computer language benchmark: http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/ [08:21] in the thread-ring test, my c implementation is a bit faster than the current c implementation, at least in my machine [08:21] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [08:21] aha [08:21] the test is compiled and run on debian, so that's why i'd like to test it before submitting [08:21] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:22] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:22] the program, i mean [08:22] I see [08:23] quickly install debian? :) [08:23] i would have to download it first, over this crappy connection, then installing it... [08:23] lol [08:23] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [08:23] I get it [08:24] sorry I can't help... all I have to offer is slackware or darwin (gasp) [08:24] then, this would be the fun part, copy a program to it, verify it actually works and then get rid of it 5 minutes later [08:24] hehehe [08:24] :D [08:24] sounds like a saturday well spent? ;) [08:24] barby_ (n=barby@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:25] guys, stupid question...but irc-clients apart from irssi? terminal styles though..could anyone suggest soemthing [08:25] ? [08:25] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:25] stickyboy (n=hugo@196.202.206.112) left irc: "leaving" [08:25] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [08:25] for me, a saturday well spent is when i get drunk, fuck a lot and go to watch a movie too [08:25] lol [08:25] nice [08:26] The-Croupier: for the terminal irssi is almost the best and only option right now [08:26] personally i don't like bitchx and it was removed from slackware some time ago, but that could be a second option [08:28] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:29] The-Croupier: the question is why? [08:30] The-Croupier, http://tools.suckless.org/ii and http://tools.suckless.org/sic [08:32] hi [08:32] hba: he doesnt mean like those. those are too spartan :P [08:32] The-Croupier: maybe try weechat [08:33] but irssi is the best [08:33] sahko, spartan... are we talking about slackware? ;-) [08:34] i like choice as much as the next guy.. perhaps more.. but for CLI IRC i dont see any reason to ever use anything but irssi [08:34] the one that has as the default DE, KDE? yes :) [08:34] Why put anything other than rubber on a car tyre? [08:34] ii is pathetic though. i wouldnt even use it [08:34] even i* [08:35] i dont even dare to think what sic is [08:35] gnubien (n=e@58.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:36] nod_ (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [08:37] but i dont question the fact that both of them work [08:37] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@62.47.149.239) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [08:37] i get the impresison that they are designed to build something on top of them, maybe a bot or something [08:38] nod_ (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: Client Quit [08:38] definitely, not an end-user program, imho [08:39] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:40] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@static195097104200.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:40] irssi, for some reason doesnt start, no error msgs...nothing...just enter and i get again the terminal prompt [08:41] slack-current, ...:( terminal and sakura...:( [08:41] strace [08:41] its broken in -current due to the perl upgrade [08:41] ohhh i see.... [08:41] what he said ^ [08:41] it needs to be rebuilt for perl 5.10.1 [08:41] or symlink the 5.10.0 irssi file to 5.10.1 but thats not very clean [08:42] s/file/files [08:42] Action: Zordrak takes a moment to remind everyone that just because -current was pretty stable for a long time and allowed everyone early access to kde4.. its a development tree that can be broken at any given time and is not intended for production use. [08:42] sahko: standard proccess...download source..compile..etc...or is there anything i should know? [08:42] The-Croupier: I'm looking at you :) [08:43] The-Croupier: nothing to do just get the sources and rebuild. it should like against new perl version [08:43] Zordrak: good for you...me too ;) [08:43] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-65-65.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [08:43] i see... [08:43] thanks [08:43] you could also bump the build no. if you mean to use upgradepkg [08:43] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.187.89) joined ##slackware. [08:43] hi there! [08:44] hello metrofox [08:44] hi andreas-- [08:45] sahko: please could you elaborate on your last statement [08:45] ? [08:46] irssi.SlackBuild says BUILD=${BUILD:-1} you can +1 this if you want [08:46] Next batch of updates will have a working irssi. Pat just needs to pull the trigger but he is busy [08:46] its trivial anyway [08:47] sahko: i see..there is a slackbuild for this version? do you have one? or shall i just ..compile ..install...? :( [08:47] hello alienBOB [08:47] alienBOB: hiya [08:47] barby_ (n=barby@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:48] The-Croupier: you're not getting this are you? its the same irssi version. if you rebuild it it will link against the new perl version. you can optionally bump the build number for convinience [08:48] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@62.47.142.179) joined ##slackware. [08:48] its totally up to you [08:49] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-183-97.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [08:50] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-180-77-218.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:50] the SlackBuild is the one thats in the Slackware-current tree [08:51] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-183-97.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:52] [OT] cool, today i've learned to use 'ping', http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=68136 [08:53] ? [08:54] sahko: right..sorry...i thought i had to do something else..write something more...etc...sorry [08:55] no need to apologise for anything [08:56] fredoslack (n=fredosla@86.210.246.204) joined ##slackware. [08:56] juice (i=juice@ice-cold.net) left irc: "[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.1-final for the Apple Newton today!" [08:56] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:00] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@static195097104200.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:02] jhw (n=jhw@84.143.109.41) left irc: "leaving" [09:02] Adam (i=Adam@82.37.18.214) joined ##slackware. [09:02] Nick change: Adam -> Guest12245 [09:03] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:05] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [09:06] sahko: sorted. thanks [09:06] hi, i want to lean about linux, i am running windows at the moment, but so tiired of my pc stalling,crashing and eventually failing. i want ot be able to customize my os and make it my own so to speak, is slackware the correct choice? [09:07] hi, I'm trying to update my xserver but I get error when I'm trying to build it. [09:07] It fails with "error: Xnest build explicitly requested, but required modules not found." [09:08] how could I get past that [09:08] Guest12245: you'll find two opinions about that; on the one hand, people who will tell you that slackware is perfect for that because you have to configure everything, or almost, by hand, and you'll learn a lot in the process [09:08] zmyrgel, which version of xorg server? [09:08] are there any more packages...that need something like that?... is there a place to look for such things? [09:08] thrice`: 1.7 [09:08] Guest12245: on the other hand, people who will tell you to install another easy distribution first, because it's easier to learn the basics from an already working system [09:08] zmyrgel, 1.7 will require you to update just about every X package out there, especially the protos [09:08] Guest12245, if you are used to read, then yes. [09:08] Guest12245: i'm in the second group, but it's your call [09:09] thrice`: I've already taken care of some of the protos + libdrm and mesa [09:09] I can't find Xnest inside the /sources/x11 dirs so I'm not sure how to proceed with this [09:10] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.14/2009090217]" [09:10] I think pat's xorg-server build pops out Xnest [09:10] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) joined ##slackware. [09:10] Guest12245, also theres another group of people that is gonna see you as an idiot, so they're gonna suggest you to try a more "user-friendly" distribution first... screw them... use slackware as a real man would do. [09:12] zmyrgel, you have the mesa source in /tmp still, right? [09:12] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.95.156) left irc: "Leaving." [09:12] ok cool thanks for your feedback. [09:12] hba, can i get slack running fast on my machine? [09:13] thrice`: um, I think not. Theres only the package-mesa dir [09:13] zmyrgel, if you check out x/x11/configure/xorg-server, you'll see: --with-mesa-source=/tmp/Mesa-${MESA_VERSION} \ [09:14] if you want to try and build without xnest, that's also the place to disable it (might be quick to test) [09:14] thrice`: ah, Just found it. Yeah, I have the mesa sources there. But I think xserver build gave some error with that [09:14] I recall that latest xserver didn't need external mesa sources anymore [09:15] yep, configure warning: unrecognized options: --with-mesa-sources [09:15] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.198.184) joined ##slackware. [09:16] bzzzzzzzzz (i=user@213.149.138.60) joined ##slackware. [09:19] bzzzzzzzzz (i=user@213.149.138.60) left irc: Client Quit [09:20] Guest12245, i think that "fast" its gentoo's flag, "stable, secure, simple" would be slackware's one. But yeah, since you have to customise slackware to fit your needs, we can say it would run fast. [09:20] bzzzzzzzzz (i=user@213.149.138.60) joined ##slackware. [09:21] hba, thanks for your reply, im gonna dive in a give it a go:) [09:21] Guest12245, i started off the same way [09:22] was told by a freind to try slackware [09:22] Scuzz, did you? [09:22] was not the easiest to start off [09:22] but i never looked back [09:22] yes [09:22] i tired other distros after [09:22] great to hear, what did you find so good about it? [09:22] but always went back to slackware [09:22] i learned alot [09:23] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [09:23] how to edit files manualy instead of relying a guis [09:23] did you come from a windows enviroment? [09:23] yes [09:23] its been two years now since i had windows running in my house [09:23] Scuzz, im definatly gonna give this a go, sounds really exciting:) [09:23] honestly [09:24] it will take some time to adjust [09:24] Scuzz, yes, i so tired of windows [09:24] but i think you will be fine if you jsut give slackware a chance [09:24] Scuzz, may i ask you resources for learning slackware? [09:24] Guest12245: /topic [09:25] linux questions forum and this channel [09:25] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:25] Guest12245: also http://blog.tpa.me.uk for a few less obvious issues [09:25] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [09:25] cool, well im gonna install it now... well try to lol [09:25] thanks Zordrak [09:25] and dont forget http://www.google.com [09:25] hba: ++ [09:25] lol [09:26] of course:) [09:26] zsejk (n=zsejk@213.208.229.47) left irc: "Leaving" [09:26] Billtoo_ (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016729.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:27] Billtoo_ (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016729.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [09:27] installation of slackware...is soooo easy these days... [09:27] and if you have a finely crafted image of something that you fixed before..its even better..takes what...30mins?! [09:27] a hundred times easier than bloody centos [09:27] my next real challenge is to learn to make a slackbuild script [09:28] 30mins? on a 386 perhaps [09:28] Scuzz: slackbuilds.org the how to section is awsome [09:28] Billtoo_ (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016729.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:28] Scuzz: google "alien AST" [09:28] Zordrak: yeah of course [09:28] thanx both of you [09:28] Billtoo_ (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016729.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [09:28] np :) [09:28] i been doing what i call diry builds from source [09:28] Zordrak: is used to being thanked ..;) [09:29] dirty* [09:29] x1user (n=null@2002:d44b:bcc:8:214:78ff:fe03:31c9) joined ##slackware. [09:29] hi guys [09:29] tha's jus' how i roll :) [09:29] lol [09:29] x1user: hiya [09:29] there is lots to read though...keep that in mind [09:29] ;) [09:30] by default eth1 is down, should i describe it in rc.inet.conf [09:30] wallander (n=wallande@d688.ip15.netikka.fi) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:30] x1user: everything is down by default unless you configure it [09:30] yes being the short answer [09:31] x1user: maybe try netconfig (as root) [09:31] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.74.71) joined ##slackware. [09:32] damn i forgot how lang openldap takes to run its tests during build [09:33] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:33] if i had two cable modems , would i notice an increase in performance with network teaming ? [09:33] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.76.158) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:33] depends what you mean [09:34] short ansmer is no [09:34] ok, is the *locked window* which pops up when xscreensaver locks the screen themeable [09:34] i mean in network spead [09:34] Scuzz: no [09:34] hrm [09:34] Two reasons: [09:34] Zordrak: is this your upgraded version... an irrelevant and a short answer? :p [09:34] Action: The-Croupier hides [09:34] lol [09:34] 1. bonding is only possible if your ISP supports it. It won't. [09:35] 2. Using both as separate routes you can still only have one default gateway. [09:35] my chipset supports it [09:36] the only way would be to specify routes for particular destinations.. or have software constantly alternate the default GW address [09:36] or some bizarre bastardisation of network protocols that does somethingf similar [09:36] but you still couldnt, for example, wget an ISO utilising both links [09:37] The-Croupier: some times the short answer is the right answer :) [09:39] bah yourright [09:40] i couldnt use two modem [09:40] mm-hmm [09:40] but teaming them through a router or switch would double the bandwith [09:40] from 1gb to 2 mb [09:40] gb i mean [09:40] yes.. but the router or switch on the other side of cable modems belongs to your ISP [09:40] yes [09:40] meaning they have to support it and enable it for you [09:41] teaming them would show them both as one ip [09:41] thats why two cable modems wouldnt work [09:41] s/teaming/bonding/ [09:41] wasnt designed to work that way [09:41] teaming is an intel word that doesnt really mean anything specific [09:41] Scuzz: only if the ISP (the other side) SUPPORTS bonding [09:41] Guest12245 (i=Adam@82.37.18.214) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:42] kantor (n=bird@79.114.78.145) joined ##slackware. [09:42] i mean on a local network i could use it [09:42] hi, it is possible to enable mouse support for the tty console (those appearing when you press the CTRL+ALT+Fx combinations), like to have a mouse pointer when you are in a ncurses application ? [09:42] Scuzz: yes thats what its for [09:42] wont do anything for speed though through my cable modem [09:42] Scuzz: right [09:42] kantor: /etc/rc.d/rc.gpm [09:42] kantor: gpm [09:43] once you have gpm setup [09:43] id go nuts wiouth gpm [09:43] without* [09:43] kantor: gpm is enabled by default in slack unless you choose to turn it off during the install when it specifically asks you [09:43] Zordrak, thansk [09:44] i use to type everything in all the time not knowing i could use the tab key [09:44] thanks is boring.. someone should break out of the box and say purple monkey dishwasher instead :) [09:44] lol [09:47] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [09:48] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [09:49] UPGRADE.TXT says: be sure your initrd is up to date (if you use one). So if I am using lilo as my bootloader, am I not using initrd? [09:49] cryptic0: you fail [09:49] cryptic0: you need to read up on what initrd is [09:49] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:49] cryptic0: read /boot/README.initrd [09:49] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:50] mingdao, Zordrak oh ok. thanks. [09:50] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [09:50] cryptic0: if you use encrypted volumes or the generic kernel, you need an initrd [09:50] kantor (n=bird@79.114.78.145) left irc: "Leaving" [09:50] cryptic0: ls -l /boot/initrd.gz and look in /etc/lilo.conf to see if you're using an initrd [09:50] cryptic0: then you need to head to http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/08/30/the-evil-of-initrd/ [09:51] Zordrak: purple monkey dishwasher [09:51] heh [09:51] Zordrak: what about encrypted partitions? [09:52] http://www.pastebin.ca/1625057 this is my lilo.conf, it doesn't say anything about initrd [09:52] alisonken1home: put what is needed in the kernel [09:53] cryptic0: you're a nasty one, eh > label = Vista [09:53] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Quitting" [09:53] Zordrak: however, unencryption tools to access the partition DON'T fit in the kernel :) [09:53] cryptic0: ls -la /boot/vmlinuz [09:53] have a good one guys... [09:53] mingdao, yes I have dual boot. I haven't booted in vista for more than ayear now [09:53] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [09:53] alisonken1home: see line 1 of the blog post [09:53] err [09:54] Zordrak, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 2008-09-24 15:57 /boot/vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-huge-smp-2.6.24.5-smp [09:54] cryptic0: I've left it on my T61 in case of warranty claim ... otherwise, it's almost useless [09:54] cryptic0: just realised its irrelevant cause youre calling your own bzImage [09:54] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:54] Zordrak, yes. [09:54] Zordrak: no mention of encrypted partitions, though [09:54] will that kernel become obsolete when I upgrade to 13? [09:54] cryptic0: so you should know what an initrd is [09:54] (yes, I read. very short paragraphs) [09:54] cryptic0: and whether you have one [09:54] cryptic0: yes, it will become obsolete [09:55] Zordrak, lol, yes I did compile that kernel, but I never had to deal with initrd. so I don't know what it is [09:55] cryptic0: and it is suggested by Slackware to run the gerneic kernel and an intird, not the huge kernel [09:55] cryptic0: then youre probably on a modified huge kernel [09:55] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:55] cryptic0: but for your custom kernel, no need for initrd [09:55] oh, please don't build a kernel with a Slackware huge kernel .config [09:56] kernel's over 4M are just ... ugly [09:56] I want to have a working system before I rebuild a kernel after upgrade. [09:56] in any case.. use the new kernel that comes with slackware 13 (i.e. run change the old-kernel label to 13-Huge and then run lilo) [09:56] cryptic0: THEN follow this guide to make a better kernel: [09:56] http://blog.tpa.me.uk/slackware-kernel-compile-guide/ [09:57] s/run change/change/ [09:57] That ^^^ looks surprisingly like alienBOB's kernel guide [09:57] mingdao: link? [09:57] I have a kernel upgrade guide myself on slackwiki. but I will look at what you sent. [09:57] 21:49 < Zordrak> http://blog.tpa.me.uk/slackware-kernel-compile-guide/ [09:58] >.< [09:58] I looked at it before. [09:58] to bobs... [09:58] Zordrak, is the generic kernel called 13-Huge? [09:58] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-98-249-3-190.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:58] i cant even answer that question.. it has too much fail in it [09:58] so after upgrade, I just change the label in lilo.conf to 13-Huge? [09:58] vmlinuz-generic-2.6.29.6 [09:59] oh ok. 13huge = vmlinuz-generic-2.6.29.6 [09:59] or vmlinuz-generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp [09:59] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-240-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:59] ming what about my modules and such? [09:59] Action: Zordrak cries [09:59] cryptic0: notice generic and huge will be in /boot/ and read /boot/README.initrd [09:59] generic != huge [10:00] Action: mingdao pulls out his hair [10:00] generic == generic [10:00] huge == huge [10:00] purple monkey licks Zordrak's dish clean in appreciation [10:00] 21:42 < mingdao> cryptic0: read /boot/README.initrd [10:00] Rainly (n=Rainly@114.42.193.249) joined ##slackware. [10:00] Nick change: Rainly -> Rainly_ [10:01] cryptic0: do your homework [10:01] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.26.146) joined ##slackware. [10:02] cryptic0: http://slackbook.org | http://slackwiki.org [10:02] allend, mingdao Zordrak you're right. I should do my homework and not rush the upgrade [10:02] AEnima15771 (n=clbarnob@128.173.39.114) joined ##slackware. [10:02] why don't they just put those in topic ;) [10:02] slackbook seems like it is very old [10:02] cryptic0: hose it ... you can always boot into Vista and Google "Slack book" [10:03] cryptic0: Did you download an ISO image(s) of Slackware 13.0? [10:03] mingdao, yes [10:03] cryptic0: Please read all those files in the top level directory after you burn the CD1/DVD [10:03] chaplja (n=jordan@unaffiliated/chaplja/x-3420176) left ##slackware. [10:04] srecko (n=srecko@93.138.202.19) joined ##slackware. [10:05] Such as: Slackware-HOWTO, README.initrd, UPGRADE.TXT, CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT, BOOTING.TXT, ANNOUNCE.13_0 ... [10:06] cryptic0: If you buy a box set of Slackware 13.0 DVD, you get both Slackware 13.0 and Slackware64 13.0 and ... the Slack Book iirc [10:06] mingdao: yrc [10:06] i see [10:06] Zordrak: purple monkey dishwasher [10:06] ;) [10:08] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [10:08] Blaguvest (n=Blaguves@h68n3-bot-a12.ias.bredband.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:08] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-71-254-127-248.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:08] initself (n=initself@wsip-98-174-154-206.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:10] fredoslack (n=fredosla@86.210.246.204) left irc: "Leaving" [10:10] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-71-254-127-248.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:14] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:14] Nick change: moh2a -> mohaa [10:15] wertik_ (n=wertik@95-27-79-140.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. 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[11:13] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:16] Nick change: SIGBUS_ -> SIGBUS [11:18] bzzzzzzzzz: you have to ask the question before someone can help you [11:18] i want to config ipv6 to my slackware [11:19] :) [11:19] bzzzzzzzzz: why [11:19] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:19] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430358.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:19] 12.1 [11:20] ipv6 should already be enabled in your kernel (unless you compiled it out) [11:20] aha aha [11:20] ok [11:20] as root - if you "ifconfig", you should see a line similar to: [11:21] inet6 addr: fe80::216:17ff:feae:b2b2/64 Scope:Link [11:21] that tells you if your kernel is ipv6 enabled [11:21] oks tnx:) [11:21] you need an Ipv6 network too [11:22] if you're using a router/switch, it should be ipv6 enabled as well [11:22] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [11:22] routing to the internet with ipv6 requires some extra work and a 6in4 encapsulation technique [11:22] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@weirdbox.ddns.playtime.bg) joined ##slackware. [11:22] aigon (n=rm@92.85.212.25) joined ##slackware. [11:24] alisonken1home: or native routing [11:25] or that :) but there's not many native ipv6 internet routes yet [11:25] im currently pushing our ISP for it [11:25] and theyre working on it [11:27] well, we're working on local IPV6 at the noc, but it's gonna take some work :) [11:28] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:29] I personally dont see where the huge difficulty is.. so long as you have the layer3 equipment capable.. people like RIPE are ready to hand out IPv6 blocks like sweets.. set up your routes and off you go [11:31] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [11:35] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [11:36] plus your dns/dhcp/other services has to support ipv6 as well :) [11:37] please, someone have fix font tinyness in skype ? [11:37] Im having problems in read text [11:37] is skype gtk based? [11:38] qt based [11:38] ah ok [11:38] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-237-223.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: "Leaving" [11:38] no idea [11:39] it occours under slack 13... I dont remember to get this problem under 12.2 [11:39] alisonken1home: sure.. but really its just about the DNS, DHCP and E-Mail and all the standard daemons for running those services have been one line in each config file away from IPv6 support for ages [11:39] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:39] alisonken1home: and for business IPs supplying fixed ranges they can start providing a basic service with nothing more than DNS [11:40] Nigromante: I imagine a specific font dependence [11:41] have you installed corefonts? [11:41] Nigromante: full install [11:41] askhader (n=sayed@rn--ctm-1-1-a05.uwaterloo.ca) joined ##slackware. [11:41] they are not in Slackware [11:41] What's /even /more stable than exaile? [11:42] isn't some fonts in /extra ? [11:42] I guess [11:42] or on sbo [11:42] mm [11:42] ? [11:42] huM [11:42] just a moment [11:42] http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/4489/bootserver15102009.jpg [11:42] corefonts are in alienb0b's restricted repo [11:43] yep [11:43] you made me doubt [11:44] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [11:45] Zordrak: can send me the url ? [11:45] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [11:46] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/ [11:47] when i set hostname with command hostname it changes at reboot [11:47] try to set dpi config in kde preferences anyway [11:47] where is the file who it actually reads from? [11:47] madbear: /etc/HOSTNAME [11:47] Nigromante: thats the wrong url [11:47] Nigromante: http://www.google.com [11:48] alisonken1home: hehe thanks [11:48] np [11:48] madbear: /etc/hosts && /etc/HOSTNAME [11:49] ok thanks cause ive alreade been in hostname i realised [11:49] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.40.220) joined ##slackware. [11:50] madbear: pkgtool ?? [11:50] Zprdral: /etc/hosts defines IP->hostname mappings, not what set's the name/network on the local computer (which is what he askes about) [11:51] or netconfig [11:51] sorry - Zordrak :) [11:51] alisonken1home: in some places the hostname is pulled by lookup [11:51] in some dhcp settings, yes it can. but I don't think he's running a dhcpd server :) [11:51] iirc (i may not) the bash prompt depends on /etc/hosts not /etc/HOSTNAME [11:52] or a netboot machine [11:52] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.254.47.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:52] ok.. thanks... I will try to do that [11:52] X;) [11:52] aigon (n=rm@92.85.212.25) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:52] cba to test [11:52] no - bash prompt does not rely on /etc/hosts - that's the resolver daemons - they check /etc/hosts before hitting the DNS server (depending on settings) [11:52] aigon (n=rm@92.82.67.39) joined ##slackware. [11:53] thanks both that acually works.. [11:53] now httpd can start at boot [11:53] alisonken1home: i know exactly what its for.. what i mean is that it can be looked up by resolution rather than config and somewhere in the past i encountered a machine that mislabelled the prompt because /etc/hosts hadnt been updated after cloning [11:54] it might have been a RH system though [11:54] which is set by "export HOSTNAME=$(cat /etc/HOSTNAME)" in /etc/profile [11:54] ok - I can believe that :) [11:54] madbear: you could not start httpd before ? [11:54] ososid (n=ososid@a81-84-23-106.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [11:54] i could if i changed hostname [11:54] right im off.. see you monday [11:54] got some weir error tho, google told me it was an exotic error :P [11:55] and if you didnt ? [11:55] now i do not remember the error but it was about the hostname [11:55] i get a hostname warning, but its related to httpd.conf [11:55] yeah i also get the warning [11:56] the virtualhostname thing? [11:56] using ... for servername [11:56] that thing [11:56] but i had a error before [11:56] ah ok [11:57] Well have a nice day, humans [11:57] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:00] john_dee (n=id@93-81-139-76.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [12:00] aigon (n=rm@92.82.67.39) left irc: Client Quit [12:02] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-79-140.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:02] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [12:03] mernill (n=chatzill@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:04] corefont.SlackBuild returning it: Source 'courie32.exe' not available yet... [12:04] Greetings fellow slackers! [12:04] in every steps [12:05] dont hate me, but im running opensuse at the moment. I dont like it.. but that's the way it is for me right now. [12:05] AbsTradELic: where you got that slackbuild from? [12:06] can anyone help with some basic scripting help ? [12:07] toytoy (n=dindin@112.202.104.65) joined ##slackware. [12:07] apart from me likeing slackware.. i must say, opensuse is much better with the upgrades. Like swaret sucks <-- [12:07] after i touch /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules [12:07] how would i populate it with KERNEL=="lirc0", SYMLINK+="lirc" [12:08] mernill, swaret does suck :P [12:08] mernill, swaret isn't a part of slackware, how can you say that? [12:09] it just came to my mind as the only upgrading thingie slackware has :-P [12:10] CcSsNET_ (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:10] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:10] not to bad tho! The boys who made it made an effort! Creds for that! [12:10] I forgot how educated you (are not) [12:10] can anyone point me in the right dirsction ? [12:10] slackpkg has neen apart of slackware for a long time [12:11] thrice`: i'm very educated. [12:11] Scuzz, "vim," "nano" [12:11] that can be scripted to ad that line ? [12:11] just try me mofucker :-D [12:11] no, it means you open up the file with an editor, and type in your rule ;) [12:11] lol [12:11] im trying t oscript it [12:12] to make the file and add that line [12:12] Scuzz, ok: echo "your rule" >> /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules" [12:13] mernill, you already failed. you said swaret is the only upgrade tool available, which is incredibly incorrect. slackware ships a tool by default [12:13] thank you sir [12:13] x1user (n=null@2002:d44b:bcc:8:214:78ff:fe03:31c9) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:13] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:13] cityOfLights (n=cityOfLi@bzq-84-109-33-134.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [12:13] hi [12:13] assuming I got two wifi AP, one in a pc and a second connected throu an ethernet cable I got two subnets [12:13] how can I have one client get the same IP regardless of what AP he connects to? [12:13] thrice`: i cant fail with my bullit proof west! :-P [12:14] dont' think we have forgotten your n00b skills mernill [12:14] yeah yeah.. ;-) [12:14] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [12:15] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [12:15] should have used a new nick or something :> [12:15] but with my .50 caliber .. i dont think your're so cocky? [12:15] http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/epic-fail-wifi-fail.jpg [12:15] cityOfLights: either set the mac address in all of the ap's to the same IP in their dhcp setup, or set a manual IP in the wireless config file [12:15] that was not a death treath btw! :-) [12:16] the AP dhcp setup [12:16] the .50 caliber just came up to my mind [12:16] alisonken1home: thanks , both AP get DHCP from one pc [12:16] with thrice` involving [12:17] thanks, I almost thought the threat over IRC would actuall effect my life :\ [12:17] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [12:17] alisonken1home: one AP is via a pci wifi card [12:18] alisonken1home: second AP is a wifi router which is connected to the pc via an ethernet card [12:18] thrice`: no worries my friend! [12:18] so the wifi gets a subnet and the ethernet card gets a diffrent subnet [12:19] cityOfLights: if they're on different subnets, then you'll probably need 2 ip's anyway since one IP may not be a part of both subnets :) [12:19] Someday we will gather in a cherrio in Valhalla! [12:20] With lots of naked virgins running around .. and so forth :-P [12:20] Unless you get killed during Ragnaroek [12:21] That could be the case :-P pprkut [12:21] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:22] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [12:24] speaking of nordic mythology.. in iceland .. they cant make roads where trolls are belived to live. [12:24] Strange but true! [12:25] mernill (n=chatzill@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]" [12:33] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:35] epple (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] alisonken1home: can't one host have two NIC to the same subnet? [12:35] can someone help me with gallery remote, i installed it but dont know how to run it [12:36] im moving to iceland [12:38] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.26.146) left irc: "bye............." [12:39] vantech (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:42] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] epple (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:44] vantech61 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:45] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [12:46] x1user (n=null@2002:d44b:bcc:8:214:78ff:fe03:31c9) joined ##slackware. [12:46] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. 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[13:02] So I was wondering, does the slackware install cd set up a console on the serial port? I'mthinking I'm going to have to install on a machine without a monitor available, and I don't think the other will move very easily heh. [13:02] cause I have a null modem cable [13:02] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) joined ##slackware. [13:03] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-131-198.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] Zordrak: seems we might get a nice wet F1 race tomorrow [13:05] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-240-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:05] how do credit card companies keep taking rates up for people? i dont get it.. it's a depression [13:05] that credit card bill was great but it also sucked [13:05] hopefully the damn world gets better soon [13:05] fatalnix: nope [13:05] fatalnix: it's an option in lilo and on the kernel append line [13:06] same with grub ( if you use grub instead of lilo ) [13:07] fatalnix: for kernel ops - /usr/src/linux/Documentation/serial-console.txt [13:08] falalnix: for lilo - 'man lilo.conf' and look for "serial=" [13:08] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-79-87.ip37.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [13:08] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [13:09] in lilo, then kernel options will be put in the global "append = ..." or in the per-image "addappend = ..." [13:09] falalnix: but that's after installed - not the default cd/dvd slackware installer [13:10] ah. I I thought lilo could do it [13:10] sorta [13:11] if it does work in the installer lilo.. wouldnt hurt to try, its just a difference on whats on the kernel [13:11] lilo (and grub) will do it as long as they're setup for it [13:11] if its huge.s then sure [13:11] its a really really old 200 mhz computer [13:11] lol [13:12] the install cd/dvd uses syslinux, not lilo. and you can modify syslinux.conf if you know how to make an install cd/dvd, you can modify the slackware install cd/dvd and burn a new one with serial console enabled [13:12] hmm [13:15] there has to be a more direct way than that... I noticed syslinux has a serial command but they say it has to be the first line in the config so it probably wouldnt work in the prompt... [13:15] since it probably has to be initialized first. [13:16] freealan_ (n=freealan@218.174.129.39) joined ##slackware. [13:16] well, the serial line in syslinux.conf is so you can use syslinux boot to modify the boot parameters over serial line. if you start syslinux with a vga console, you can pass the serial options to the kernel and go serial from there [13:17] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-131-198.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:17] ah [13:18] so you can pass serial options to the kernel? I'd think so but that's good. I'll hav eto try doing it blindly without a monitor but eh [13:18] shouldnt be hard [13:18] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [13:21] freealan_ (n=freealan@218.174.129.39) left irc: Client Quit [13:21] Zordrak, mingdao: I read up on initrd but I still can't figure out why I need it. I mean, after I have installed the upgrade, could I not simply roll my own kernel, install it, run lilo to update the new path and then reboot? Why do I need initrd for this? [13:21] some systems (think servers-by-design) also have a serial option in bios with a 'keep redirect after bios' option [13:22] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-79-140.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:22] cryptic0: initrd is for modules and routines needed to access the rest of your system (network boot/drive parameters like filesystem/encrypted volumes) [13:22] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:23] so initrd is only typically used at boot with a minimal kernel to load needed modules to access the rest of your system on the hard drive or nfs/network drives [13:23] does that mean every system must have initrd? [13:24] as an example, slackware includes a minimal (generic) kernel that has _extremely_ stripped functionality where everything that can be is a module. in order to access an ext2 partition, then you have to make an initrd with ext2 modules in the initrd so the kernel can access the ext2 boot partition [13:24] the slackware huge kernel has almost all drivers in the kernel, so no initrd is typically needed with huge [13:24] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:25] to reduce resource usage in memory, it's typical to install huge as a secondary boot option in case something gets hosed, and install a generic kernel with initrd as primary [13:25] thanks! [13:26] you say a vga to serial? [13:26] I see. so then if I pointed lilo to the huge kernel (assuming I install it) and rebooted, I would not need initrd. right? (resource usage is not a limitation) [13:26] if you compile the kernel that's custom to your computer and you include all the drivers needed for just that computer, you should not need an initrd [13:26] cryptic0: typically correct [13:26] ok, great thats what I wanted to find out. [13:26] I am going to install the upgrade, configure the kernle, update lilo and then reboot. [13:27] fatalnix: not sure what you mean by 'vga to serial' [13:27] well if the bios could redirect standard vga text from the video card to serial that'd be amazing. [13:27] lol [13:28] alisonken1home, what kernel source ships with 13? [13:28] 2.6.29.x? [13:28] 2.6.29.6 [13:28] okay [13:28] great. thanks guys. Let me get started with my upgrade. so exciting :D [13:28] cryptic0: good luck. :) [13:29] thanks BP{k} :) see you all in a bit. [13:29] i'm so fucked up [13:29] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: "Leaving" [13:29] we're so concerned [13:30] thrice`: apparently being 'annoying' to a friend of a friend warrants her hitting you in the knee with a cane [13:30] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [13:31] fatalnix: the server has an option to take /dev/console equivalent and redirect that output to both vga AND a specified sieral port in bios [13:32] we use that option in our servers at the noc on all of our servers [13:33] cryptic0: the kernel source in default slackware/s directory is the same as the kernel that's installed from the cd/dvd. there may also be a newer kernel in /testing or /extra [13:34] Axius (n=fd@92.85.223.144) joined ##slackware. [13:34] that's pretty nice [13:34] wait, my servers have that in the bios [13:34] I wasnt sure if that's what it was [13:34] :D [13:34] alisonken1home: uhm slackware/s ? ;) [13:34] I remember seeing it [13:34] s/\/s/\/k/ [13:34] BP{k}: not sure if it's slackware/s or slackware/source on the cd/dvd [13:35] I though /k was the kernel binary stuff [13:35] Pat makes it a package in k/ [13:35] no, those are in a/ of course :) [13:35] alisonken1home: there is no "S" diskset, k/ is the package of the kernel source. [13:35] ah - don't have my cd/dvd with me at the moment and was trying to remember [13:35] thanks [13:36] i think i'm done with kde, guys. what do i switch to? [13:36] fluxbox? [13:36] xfce [13:36] or flux [13:36] amazon10x: xfce. [13:36] alright [13:37] i'll do xfce. do i change a text file or something to activate it? [13:37] xwmconfig [13:37] alright [13:37] logging out and in to test it [13:37] you'll like it [13:38] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) left irc: "got to get some" [13:38] All xwmconfig does, iirc, is set a symlink in /etc/X11/. YOu can set that up yourself if you want. [13:38] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-160-166-99.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:38] LSD`: no it doesn't. [13:38] no, it cats xinitrc's to ~/.xinitrc [13:38] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-166-99.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:38] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-160-166-99.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:39] Smeg (n=Solus@217.23.3.82) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:39] cuba33ci (i=cuba33ci@118-168-238-243.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:39] sedimalko (n=user@213.149.138.60) joined ##slackware. [13:40] Smeg (n=Solus@217.23.3.82) joined ##slackware. [13:40] LSD`: it would be "rather a bad thing(tm)" if a script run by a user, would ammend system files. [13:40] alrighty, i've got xfce gonig [13:40] this terminal text is weird looking. blurry around the edges i think [13:40] amazon10x: have a look also on SBo, there is a large number of XFCE goodies to make things a wee bit nicer :) [13:41] corvo_ (n=corvo@201.35.205.199) joined ##slackware. [13:41] BP{k}: tell me the best one [13:41] Nick change: sedimalko -> ipv6_help [13:41] amazon10x, go to settings -> appearance -> fonts, and enable anti-aliasing [13:41] I set medium hinting myself [13:41] BP{k}: Actually, yeah, I think I remember it creating xinitrc's in ~ now. I think running it as root though changes the symlink. I remember thinking how clever it was to have individual xinitrc's for all the environments and then symlinking the one you wanted was [13:42] amazon10x: "best" is pretty relative. What I might need and you may need/like/want/ are completely different. [13:42] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] AEnima15771 (n=clbarnob@128.173.39.114) left irc: "Leaving." [13:43] thrice`: ok, medium hinting did it [13:44] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [13:45] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:45] LSD'? [13:46] amazon10x: xfce has good functionality while using less system resources. flux is extremely fast, but, requires a bit of manual editing. [13:46] wertik_ (n=wertik@95-27-78-89.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:46] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-79-140.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:46] Nick change: wertik_ -> wertik_rus [13:46] hitest: yeah, that's my hesitation with the *boxes. i don't feel like messing around with config files and stuff [13:47] then I'd go with xcfe [13:47] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:47] i'm in it now. can't find out how to get rid of this little power-manager icon though [13:47] "killall xfce4-power-manager" [13:48] zoyd (n=vinay@unaffiliated/zoyd) joined ##slackware. [13:48] thanks [13:48] wow, there's definitely something wrong with my mouse. i'm getting these phantom double clicks. i wonder if logitech would be keen on replacing it [13:49] hi, anyone around use usbmount and notice a problem of partitions getting mounted twice? [13:49] Settings------->Session and Startup. deselect power manager for start-up [13:49] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [13:49] hitest: perfect, thanks [13:49] yw [13:49] i have a bad habit of doing one-time fixes, so when i end up rebooting after a couple months, everything breaks [13:50] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [13:50] how do i get a volume icon? [13:51] right-click bottompanel-----click add new item [13:51] bottom panel [13:51] julioc (n=Who@201-68-31-197.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:51] oh there we go [13:52] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:52] ha, you know my biggest problem with any windows OS? i can't scroll over the volume icon to change volume [13:52] and they still don't have it on win 7 [13:53] i didnt know that could be done [13:53] Smeg (n=Solus@217.23.3.82) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:53] whats iwn 7? is that some sort of virus? [13:53] thats your biggest problem with windows ? [13:53] sahko: yep, works on kde, and xfce too [13:53] I hate random things stealing input from the scroll wheel. Bugs the crap out of me. [13:53] Scuzz: well, it's one that really really bothers me. i guess it might not be the "biggest" though [13:53] yeah just tried. but i usually just fired up alsamixer [13:53] Solus (n=Solus@217.23.3.82) joined ##slackware. [13:53] the people behind the operating system is what disgusts me [13:54] i'm constanty adjusting volume so i love it. maybe i just need to invest in proper replaygain though [13:54] I jsut turn the system volume up to full and use the dial on my speakers :P [13:54] fatalnix: i'm about to buy a MS keyboard+mouse package [13:54] oops [13:54] fatalnix: which people would those be? [13:54] Solus (n=Solus@217.23.3.82) left ##slackware. [13:54] LSD`: but then you have to lift your hand off the mouse to adjust volume. waaaay too much effort [13:55] amazon10x: I don't adjust the volume often enough for it to be a bother :P [13:55] not nessesarily the developers as a whole, they're just doing their job, but the big picture. [13:55] LSD`: you actually use full volume without loss of quality? [13:55] fatalnix: so who exactly? [13:56] microsoft is one of the many companies that are filled with greed [13:56] in the fact that they will do anything it takes to get their advertising out there and into peoples heads even without using television broadcasts or physical ads on websites, etc [13:57] fatalnix: well, that's probably not your issue with them though. every company is greedy; it's their sole purpose of existence once they become a company. i'd suggest, otoh, that you have a problem with their sacrificing of ethics in order to enable their greed more [13:57] if MS did not do that, I think their shareholders would not be pleased and will get somebody who will [13:57] fatalnix: so far you haven't said anything that's specific to microsoft [13:57] they are basicly monopolizing what they can, not everything but what they can. [13:57] mancha (n=damancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [13:58] hba_ (n=hba@189.188.107.221) joined ##slackware. [13:58] _MaggoT_ (n=NewBie@110.138.93.69) joined ##slackware. [13:58] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [13:58] fatalnix: so far what you've described is common for most big companies, yet nothing specific to people. so which people disgust you? [13:59] hba (n=hba@189.188.116.148) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:59] deco (n=deco@69.108.88.254) joined ##slackware. [13:59] i just had a guy from microsoft come to my school to tell us about it. not some marketing guy, he was actually a project leader and stuff. he was really cool, and made me want to get a job at MS actually [13:59] Nick change: hba_ -> hba [13:59] doesnt google monopolize the internet? [13:59] see? [14:00] amazon10x: they got great benefits [14:00] microsoft's lawsuits and fud toward open source is always slowing the progression of open source. [14:00] fatalnix: see what? [14:01] ananke: yeah, they really treat their people well, i think. i'm going to try to win imaginecup, which will hopefully give me an in [14:01] google is indeed monopolizing the search part [14:01] amazon10x: i haven't met a person who was disappointed in their job at microsoft [14:01] amazon10x: and in today's economoy, scoring a job with them would be a great career move [14:02] spider1010: not only. mail , online rss readers. soon services like paypal (thats harder) [14:02] they may treat their people well but they still break the law to get their products out. [14:02] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [14:02] spider1010: hmm? how so? [14:03] not to mention browsers and operating systems of the future [14:03] google is the internet [14:03] i know that i have watched them use lots of fud and having a monopoly is breaking the law [14:03] oh yeah, the lying thing with ie8 [14:03] :D [14:03] I remember that [14:04] spider1010: is having a monopoly breaking the law? i thought that using it as leverage was the problem [14:04] spider1010: fud in itself is not illegal. having a monopoly is not illegal [14:04] well it technicly wasnt lying all the way, but it was more like, blackmail after [14:04] yes it is. [14:04] in the united states, the FCC is the only legal monopoly [14:05] that the government allows [14:05] spider1010: again, it's not, but you're welcome to prove it to us by providing apropriate sources [14:05] s/apropriate/adequate [14:06] i second that, ananke. let's see some sources [14:06] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:07] there's something to be said about liking and/or respecting the outfit you work fo [14:07] for [14:08] tooly (n=theo@f053076233.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [14:08] well in the US it is ilegal to have a monopoly but microsoft has their company based in opther countries which may not be ilegal [14:09] fatalnix: afaiu, it's not illegal to have a monopoly in the u.s. do you have a source to say otherwise? [14:09] how is it illegal? [14:09] I think it's only illegal if you start exploiting people - then the government can step in [14:09] surely there is nothing wrong with holding a large market share [14:09] didnt you ever take US history? [14:10] they ilegalized them after the trusts [14:10] fatalnix: if this is so obvious, give a source [14:10] fatalnix: that's not an argument [14:10] no, its a true statement [14:10] fatalnix: so once a company reaches a certain marketshare, are they required to sabotage their product to lower their market share? [14:10] so you're saying any company holding the majority of its industry is operating illegally ? [14:10] just because some monopolies were split up, doesn't mean having a monopoly is illegal [14:10] thrice, in the u.s. there is the sherman antitrust act [14:10] zoyd (n=vinay@unaffiliated/zoyd) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:11] its what we were taught in us history in high school. Monopolies were ilegalized along with trustsaftr the tweed ring [14:11] or whatever [14:11] there have also been other antitrust laws/acts before and after sherman [14:11] was like the only time of year I payed attention [14:11] while leveraging your dominance on the market may be illegal, dominance in itself is not illegal [14:12] fatalnix: you didn't pay close enough attention [14:12] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.59.125.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:12] no I did [14:12] i had to do the homework three times after school [14:12] fatalnix: right. that's proves it [14:12] jg9_ (n=jg@host86-178-3-95.range86-178.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:12] fatalnix: so do you believe that once a company reaches a certain marketshare, are they required to sabotage their product to lower their market share? [14:12] because my teacher was retarded and I didnt do the rest of my homework [14:13] I do not know they did not go over that in the boot [14:13] book* [14:13] and notice the person who made this original claim of 'having a monopoly is illegal' hasn't bothered to respond with any proof/arguments [14:13] http://www.ftc.gov/bc/antitrust/antitrust_laws.shtm [14:13] but I believe they should. and that companies should know when they are overdoing things. [14:14] thrice, so there are statutes which are designed to limit/remove monopolistic behavior but it requires judicial review. so one exampleis the u.s. vs msft from 1998 where the doj used antitust arguments against msft [14:14] fatalnix: that is simply absurdly unrealistic [14:14] check that link above out that show that monopolies are illegal [14:14] and having one is breaking the law [14:14] spider1010: now go read it, and tell us which line says that 'having a monopoly' is illegal [14:14] mancha, right - that was over IE, wans't it? [14:14] the whole thing does [14:14] jg9_ (n=jg@host86-178-3-95.range86-178.btcentralplus.com) left ##slackware. [14:14] spider1010: no, it doesn't [14:14] so you read it and shut your face [14:14] yes thrice, the bundling issue [14:14] monopolies in the US are not illegal. _Abusive_ monopolies are subject to DOJ oversight [14:14] exactly [14:15] spider1010: ohh, now that's a compelling argument [14:15] alison, that is not accurate at all [14:15] i know right [14:15] well then blame the book [14:15] if I can remember its title [14:15] its american something [14:15] to everyone saying monopolies are illegal: you believe that once a company reaches a certain threshold of market share, they are required to somehow reduce their market share? [14:15] the antitrust laws basically give the gov't access to intervening if monopolistic companies start exploiting the public uncontrollably [14:15] ive been out of high school a couple years now so itl take tim eto come [14:15] right, or shortchanging the marketplace by reducing or eliminating the beneficial aspects of competition [14:16] There are monopoly laws, but they just govern how a monopoly can operate, they don't seek to stop them existing [14:16] Nick change: aceofspades19 -> aceofspades [14:16] j0z (n=JESUS@189.58.6.159.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:16] do you like working in microsoft? [14:16] Nick change: aceofspades -> aceofspades19 [14:16] there are instances where monopolies make sense (like running phone and tv cables and mining) where monopolies make sense (natural monopolies I believe they are called), but once you get tagged as a monopoly, then the DOJ get's involved [14:16] like the FCC [14:16] or oil companies :) [14:16] which is the governments legal monopoly [14:17] MS is not a monopoly, but the DOJ found them "monopol like" and have abused their power [14:17] fatalnix: i don't know what you're talking about with the fcc. they don't make products or have a market [14:17] people need to lay off MS [14:17] it serves a purpose. [14:17] sadly :) [14:17] not at all [14:18] fatalnix, it does, if youcan't admit it you're a dumb ass [14:18] jeev: when MS decides to play by market rules, then yes, I see your point. Until such time as they play like a standard competitive company, then too bad [14:18] you'll never make things in *nix "cute" like all these business fags want it [14:18] it server to hold back the progression of the human race in software development and education [14:18] aaw, jeev, we agree on something <3 <3 [14:18] I cant remember where I read it [14:18] i got to pack though [14:18] they deserve what they get [14:18] fuck ms end of story :D [14:18] looking for it simeltaneously [14:19] thrice`, bite me. i'm coming over today -- your mother got new lingerie and a lap band [14:19] k, i'll bake cookies [14:19] it's interesting to see the divide in types of arguments. on one hand you have pragmatic folks, on the other you have 'shut your mouth', 'fags', and 'blame the book, i can't remember its name' [14:20] well when history teachers spend weeks of driving a message into your head you end up believing it if you pay attention [14:20] it was shut you face not your mouth. if your going to remember quote do it right [14:20] and the only 'evidence' to support the idea that existance of monopolies is illegal in usa is a link that mentions only abusive leveraging of market dominance [14:20] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:20] well, when history teachers teach wrong things and the kids bring it home, the parents should point out the corrections and find out where the teacher found their information [14:20] fatalnix: well enough, but when you go at odds with people about that info, it's good to have a source you can reference (e.g., the actual u.s. code) [14:21] spider1010: that would imply that it's worth quoting you. it isn't. [14:21] ananke: permission to PM? [14:21] amazon10x: go ahead [14:21] well you cut me deep ananke. [14:21] you cut me deep [14:21] alisonken1home, i've learned something.. lately. you can't change the stupid... this goes for the fact that half the country still believes 18 people managed to pull off 9/11 and everything that's happened happened because of it.. you know what the answer is? dont bother helping anyone, there is nothing you could do to change it [14:22] alisonken1home, world aint changing.. have fun and take advantage of the dumb. that's what MS does.. [14:22] and you could call me dumb if you want, i run vista at home because of games ;) [14:22] the problem with that argument is people forget their history - and look what happened when people decided to say screw it [14:23] yea, they forget their history, like lavon affair and all the other shit other countries and u.s. have done to themselves to get war. [14:23] that's why it aint changing, stop complaining.. wee. [14:23] history is a bunch lies [14:23] Action: jeev mass emails, who wants penis enlargement pills?!?! [14:23] of [14:23] another example is I don't run MS software. BUT - I still have to deal with the crap that MS software does and sends to my computer (spam, etc.) [14:23] unfortunately, revisionist history is much too cmoon... [14:24] *common [14:24] however, I'm going on the history that I saw, not revisionist history when it comes to MS [14:24] that is another argument, and a good one, say you don't use MSFT products. but some big percentage of spam originates on ms-zombie boxes that have some unpatched exploit [14:25] that cost to society can be directly associated with msft products [14:25] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:26] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:26] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@h80ad23d5.async.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:26] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:26] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [14:27] aigon (n=rm@92.85.223.144) joined ##slackware. [14:27] CcSsNET_ (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:28] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:28] man, this rain is killing me. it's been non-stop for like two days now [14:29] we could use some more over here in SoCal to fill up the reservoirs [14:29] man [14:29] hmm, almost time to spread some winterizer on the grass [14:29] did you know, for example, that msft-compiled 3rd party bioses had code in it to fail if the OS type was linux? [14:29] the day after the rain went was disgusting smog though [14:29] lets hope this passes: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091002213301495 [14:30] linux even has kernel flags to simulate being a windows box so the bios doesn't barf. how is that fair market practice? [14:30] spider1010: that would be fantastic. it'd be quite the game-changer [14:30] let's home the Supremes rule properly on it, you mean :) [14:30] meh, with the economy, it's nice that MS keeps people working :) [14:30] BUT - by keeping people working on MS borks, they can't be working on valid advancements [14:31] it'd be a pretty nasty effect if MS suddenly died [14:31] mancha: yeah, i remember when that was all uncovered. if i recall, bgates said something along the lines of "why should linux get to use something that we spent all the time developing." was an interesting read [14:31] think downstream from MS, too. software devs, admins, businesses [14:31] bad but survivable for those that didn't lock themselves into MS koolaid [14:31] are you kidding? 95% of the business world uses MS, I'd bet [14:31] yeah, more jobs would just be created at places like redhat [14:31] only in the US and possibly GB [14:32] think so? [14:32] when every business in the world needs to roll out rhel for their infrastructure [14:32] amazon, i don't recall all the specifics, for somereason i thought ms's official response was "it was an unintentional bug" [14:32] who says that RH [14:32] and it's less than 95% - but still a large percentage [14:32] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@70.16.70.118) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [14:32] RH's eyes wont' light up and start exploiting the market too? [14:32] and then a bunch of bios makers re-compiled it to be linux friendly [14:32] aigon (n=rm@92.85.223.144) left irc: Client Quit [14:32] if anything, apple is helping keep MS in check very much [14:32] if there was no windows, imagine how dumb(er) ubuntu would have to make it self to fill the users needs [14:33] or rather, how smarter the average computer user would be :) [14:33] sahko: i was under the impression that it's pretty much ready to rock for pretty much all normal users [14:33] alisonken1home you seem like the optimistic type :) [14:33] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [14:33] I was hoping the "ubuntu sucks" argument would come up. how ironic [14:33] sahko: I try to be - less stress [14:34] Axius (n=fd@92.85.223.144) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [14:34] one time this girl at my college was having trouble with her crappy vista laptop so i handed her an ubuntu CD and said "put this in". i come back two weeks later... she still had it running! with customizations and everything [14:34] thrice: ubuntu sucks! Happy lol [14:34] EasyTU1 (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-35-25.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:34] the thing about vista is it makes _anything_ look good in comparison :) [14:34] indeed, ubuntu is awesome [14:34] not really I don;t like some of the stuff shuttlesworth has done but ubuntu is FOSS [14:35] sahko (n=sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:35] nNavii (n=duvaz@189.183.87.187) joined ##slackware. [14:36] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:36] cool story though, so some girl @ college (aka linux noob) became a relatively sophisticated ubuntu user! [14:36] my wife uses ubuntu and is very happy to be away from windows. she is not technical at all. [14:37] crazy to think there are some who only want to use a computer ;) [14:37] ubunti sucks [14:37] isn't there a new version soon or something? [14:37] jeev, you just admitted to using vista, your opinion is dead [14:37] oh yeah. ubuntu.com says 12 days to release [14:37] thrice`, i need a windows based OS for my main computer, i enjoy some nice games. [14:37] Action: SiegeX is on his vista as we speak [14:38] jeev, go get some friends instead [14:38] they all have their place [14:38] games would be for the secondary computer, not the primary computers. and that's what sega and wii and other consoles are for [14:38] i got the one i need ;) [14:38] hi, i have a problem, when i try to start a ssh connection, i need put a password but i don't know, what can i put? [14:38] SiegeX: i have the same mindset, but i'm not really sure if *vista* has a place :P [14:38] doesn't the latest mcaffee antivir remove vista by default? :) [14:38] nNavii: the password is user password on the remote computer [14:38] how funny mancha, since every system i've ever had to fix that had a virus on it had either mcaffee of norton [14:39] both of those two were bad [14:39] were??? [14:39] when i was into botnets [14:39] Action: winter has removed w7 today [14:39] winter: in favor of? [14:39] those two wee always easy to pass stuff on [14:40] disk space [14:40] it's been a while but there used to be a rather good app: spybot s&d that i remember [14:40] winter: hahaha, i mean what OS do you use now? [14:40] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [14:40] use the ps3 at least it runs linux [14:40] mancha: oh yeah, i remember using that from a while ago [14:40] haven't really messed with cleaning up windows machines for a couple of years now though [14:40] debina, i had w7rc on other partition [14:41] x1user (n=null@2002:d44b:bcc:8:214:78ff:fe03:31c9) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:41] mancha, nzyme aka nsm bot was reat back in the day [14:41] think it was only 12 kb [14:41] nzm* [14:41] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [14:42] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: "leaving" [14:42] any bot wsa good if you had a private packer/encrypter [14:42] brb door [14:43] is Scuzz talking about some past life as a hacker or something? [14:44] naw , script kiddie more like it [14:44] things you do when your young [14:44] script kiddies will always be young! [14:47] EasyTU1 (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-35-25.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware. [14:48] man, i'm listening to this riff in this john mayer song and it sounds amazing. i wish i had an electric guitar her [14:48] here* [14:49] speaking of bioses, i heard a buttload of intel ones were compromised [14:49] ? [14:49] how so [14:50] privilege escalation [14:50] this something recent ? [14:50] harls (n=harls@pool-96-244-239-100.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:50] yar [14:50] are you responsible for this Scuzz? [14:50] greetings all [14:50] lol [14:51] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:51] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78.86.149.244) joined ##slackware. [14:52] scuzz, were you an efneter? [14:52] no [14:52] back in my ./ days i owned * [14:52] lol [14:53] i used to dos from a single box and take down *, then ddos came out and i stopped bothering [14:53] i had a little weak trinoo and stacheldraht net lol [14:54] the good ole days [14:54] yep [14:54] i dont ever remember rooting a slackware box. [14:54] was always redhat [14:54] i never rooted anything linux [14:54] http://security-center.intel.com/advisory.aspx?intelid=INTEL-SA-00019&languageid=en-fr or somthing [14:54] thanks mancha [14:55] well, I remember when I started with Linux (slackware even) I forgot to chmod -x the bind binary and people started using my box as a relay :) [14:55] heh [14:55] lol [14:55] bind ? [14:55] i never recalled a bind binary [14:56] bind has had a very troubled history [14:56] go back and look again :) [14:56] isc bind ? [14:56] bind was the original email server distributed with linux and most *nix [14:56] oh man i wasn't alive back then [14:56] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [14:56] just recently (in last months) there was a hige forwarding vulnerability [14:56] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [14:56] hige or huge? :) [14:57] BOTH [14:57] hah [14:57] heh, typo. what does hige mean? [14:57] if i recall correctly, my first slackware install was 1997-10-14 3.4.0 [14:58] not a word [14:58] alisonken1home, Bind is a nameserver, not e-mail server. [14:58] jesus [14:58] thats along time [14:58] i wasn't even a teen lol [14:58] no wonder you guys have all the answers [14:58] jeev, i was only 10 back then [14:58] i dont have all the answers [14:58] i stopped using slack for a while and stared using freebsd [14:58] adamk_: sorry you're right [14:58] jeev must be a geezer [14:58] i sdaid i wasn't even a teen then [14:58] sendmail binary then [14:59] yea, see ken? [14:59] [11:55am] i never recalled a bind binary [14:59] ;) [14:59] but bind has had a troubled past....dns, as a protocol, probably needs an overhaul [14:59] and bind did have a binary as well - just nameserver not email server [14:59] isc bind always has troubles [14:59] Nick change: mako-dono -> mako-sama [15:00] mancha, yea, it does...but its a bit late to do an overhaul, they just need to make a new DNS protocol for ipv6 and then you can break backwards compatibility [15:00] i remember back then, people would be like, "you can't compile that!! it needs headers" [15:00] haha, i saw was alisonken1home said and i was thinking "wow there used to be an email server called bind?" [15:00] and i thought headers were like 31337 stuff [15:01] http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-1999-0513 [15:01] those were the days, papasmurf lol [15:01] it never worked on anyone i tried but was fun [15:01] alisonken1home: yea named [15:01] cute - "... smurf attack ..." [15:01] yea it was fun [15:02] you'd ping bcasts or something and get ones that responded a lot [15:02] and those were good bcasts lol [15:02] jeev, surely you msut remember the linux ping packet to shut down remote users modems ? [15:02] they were called multicasters [15:02] nope, i dont remember [15:03] omg that was a fun one [15:03] it jsut sent the modem rtz ++ solmething like that [15:03] and shut off users modems [15:03] anyone know how to change from the HDMI Audio Output to the analog output for the nvidia mcp79 chipset in slack13 64? [15:03] regarding strange tcp/ip stuff, someone here mentioned that win7 brought back the winnuke functionality (due to popular demand) [15:03] lol [15:03] hell, even today there is that router bug that will drop about 5% off any given IRC channel. Funny thing is they never know what hits them because they never receive the text [15:03] without using the nvidia control panel, you may want to look at xrandr [15:04] cityOfLights (n=cityOfLi@bzq-84-109-33-134.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:04] harls: ^^^^ [15:04] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@h80ad23d5.async.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [15:04] alisonken1home: will check it out. thanks. [15:04] SiegeX, you mean the DCC SEND bug ? [15:04] its a combo of that bug with another [15:05] i forgot what router it shuts down [15:05] netgear [15:05] a bunch [15:05] lets test it to see who leaves [15:05] scuzz [15:05] hah [15:05] yu'll probably get klined [15:05] netgear, some linksys, etc i think [15:05] if you wake some oper up with that [15:05] i was kifdding [15:05] lets get thrice to try it [15:05] lol [15:05] an odd bug [15:05] it's antivirus that does that [15:05] it thinksit's a virus or something and kils it [15:06] you can fix it by logging on to irc on a different port i belive [15:06] Nick change: ipv6_help -> opssssssss [15:06] tooly (n=theo@f053076233.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware. [15:06] no, it doesn't think it's a virus. [15:07] we had a user before change port and he wasnt affected anymore [15:07] dunno [15:07] "The DCC send exploit can refer to two bugs, a variant buffer overflow error in mIRC triggered by filenames longer than 14 characters and an input validation error in some routers manufactured by Netgear, D-Link and Linksys, triggered by the use of port 0. The router exploit, in particular, may be triggered when the phrase 'DCC SEND ' followed by at least 6 characters without spaces or newlines appears anywhere in a TCP stream on port 6667, not jus [15:08] see [15:08] so changing porsts work [15:08] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:09] yeah, it's a bug in the packet filter that tries to prepare itself for a dcc connection. no viruses involved [15:09] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:09] hey, Scuzz getting klined wouldn't be a bad thing jeev [15:09] slaxxer (n=brian@ip72-204-125-6.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:09] hey now [15:09] lol [15:10] :) [15:10] reminds me of the old app 'click' which exploited the winsock2 bug [15:10] there was this other "fun" bug too while this dcc send was popular.. [15:10] keylogger shit :) [15:10] someone just got klined last week or so for the dcc thing [15:10] people still using that ? [15:10] mancha (n=damancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [15:11] jeev's mom tries to dcc her pics everywhere :( [15:11] lol [15:11] Paz (n=Paz@70.233.135.117) joined ##slackware. [15:11] why did i read "jews mom" [15:11] :( [15:12] anyone know why sound would go to the headphones and not the main speakers? [15:12] because your main output select is incorrect? [15:13] or your wiring is crossed inside? [15:13] i sure hope the latter is not the case, it's a laptop [15:13] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:13] Or the driver has a bug. [15:13] ok - may want to check the settings and see which output is tagged as your main output [15:13] in the multimedia settings HDA Nvidia (STAC92XX Analog) is the first one [15:14] sometimes the first one is not the main one [15:14] or at least, not the main one that you want [15:14] but when i check alsamixer it is show HDA Nvidia, Nvidia HDMI (HDMI Audio Output) as being selected [15:14] chipster_ (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [15:14] any way to force it? [15:15] steiger (n=user@189.105.30.251) joined ##slackware. [15:15] might be a module option, but not sure which one [15:16] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:16] or possibly something that can be configured in alsa, but don't know [15:17] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65212dd.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:18] trimmer (n=trimmer@63-228-161-195.cdrr.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [15:19] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:22] is the speaker muted? [15:22] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:22] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:22] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-35-25.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:22] usually the speakers and headphone jack can be muted independently (and are by default) [15:22] dermoth (n=dermoth@205.151.111.9) joined ##slackware. [15:23] ha, remember that time when someone was trying to get their wifi card working for a couple of weeks. then one day someone is talking about hardware wifi switches and he goes "omg, that was it. it's working now" [15:23] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:23] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-78-89.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [15:24] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:27] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:27] initself (n=initself@wsip-98-174-154-206.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:28] does anyone here use a browser other than firefox? [15:29] the headphones are acting as the main speaker right now [15:29] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:29] I use opera and konqueror semi-regularly. [15:29] hmmm, [15:29] it was the 3d setting that was muted [15:29] now it's working [15:30] is that normal? [15:32] lagann_ (n=hex@c-24-62-142-190.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:32] depends on defaults in your user profile [15:33] harls: ^^^^ [15:33] so there are two audio output jacks, an hdmi, and the main speakers. [15:33] one of the headphone jacks cuts off the main speakers, while the other doesn't [15:36] Anyone recommend a good front end for dvdauthor? [15:37] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:37] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [15:38] initself (n=initself@wsip-98-174-154-206.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:39] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:40] initself (n=initself@wsip-98-174-154-206.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[16:00] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [16:01] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-96.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:01] gar0t0: was kinda wet wasn't it ;) [16:02] amazon10x: I'm live side the "speedyway" [16:02] really? you mean you're actually there right now? [16:02] Why does slackware's kernel still use the old ATA driver? :) [16:02] stickyboy: because slackware is still used on older hardware [16:03] BP{k}: yes!! I'm very "went" [16:03] alisonken1home: Good answer. [16:03] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:04] I'm still running a patched slack8.1 on a router at my old job that the owner keeps me on his cell phone to call when problems crop up [16:04] a 486 [16:04] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.59.125.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:04] amazon10x: Im in my house now [16:04] Job security? [16:05] BP{k}: You like Formula 1 racing? [16:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:05] not really - since it's a _previous_ job, AND I happen to live around the corner from the store, AND we're still friends, I do it as a favor [16:06] Do you believe in God? [16:06] no..... [16:06] BP{k}: do you like ...? (is the correct form?) [16:06] stickyboy: but i belive in jesus... [16:06] stickyboy: that would be a q. for ##slackofftopic - but yes [16:07] alisonken1home: Then you're collecting brownie points :) [16:07] Technically, yes, but ommiting "do" is colloquially acceptable [16:07] slava_dp (n=slava@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] Now, where can I get a slackbuild for gmrun? [16:07] stickyboy: brownie points - no. but since it's an electronics parts store and he insisted I keep a key to the building and an employee account, it helps sometimes when I need spare parts :) [16:07] did anyone notice that pat has very silently put out kde3 packages for 13.0? :) ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/unsupported/kde-3.5.10-for-slack13.0/ [16:08] hi alisonken1home [16:08] slava_dp, yes we did ;) [16:08] yo metrofox [16:08] metrofox: ciao :) [16:08] hey deco, come stai? [16:09] metrofox: good just reading the php book and you ? [16:09] deco, just listening to astronomy domine by Pink Floyd :P [16:09] metrofox: kk, well, means that i am the only one who did not :) [16:09] metrofox: oh nice :P [16:09] gonna read the C book later :P [16:09] yeah :P [16:10] slava_dp, well it hasn't been written in the ChangeLog or somewhere else, so it's hard to find ;) [16:10] however deco today I had the opportunity to read something about threads and multitasking programming... [16:11] that's cool [16:12] I already knew about threads and that stuff, but today I read something about... [16:12] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:12] AlexElliott: tks [16:15] hba_ (n=hba@189.188.45.44) joined ##slackware. [16:15] hba (n=hba@189.188.107.221) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:15] Nick change: hba_ -> hba [16:17] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [16:17] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [16:21] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.207.239) joined ##slackware. [16:22] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-183-97.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [16:26] Anyone on 2.6.32 yet? [16:28] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "rha" [16:28] mesaGL (n=mesaGL@unaffiliated/mesagl) joined ##slackware. [16:28] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc65212dd.cns.vt.edu) left ##slackware. [16:30] wooooooot! firefox stopped eating my CPU! \o/ [16:31] yeah, the only way was for it to crash -_- [16:31] Anybody have any feedback on how to remove unwanted icons from the kickoff favorites menu? Believe me when I say this unwanted icon has been resistant to many articles suggestions. [16:31] stickyboy: well, it's not final but I am currently running it, why? [16:31] strankan (n=strankan@213.112.205.64) joined ##slackware. [16:32] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.136.33) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:32] amazon10x (i=captain@liberstation.com) left irc: "leaving" [16:33] amazon10x (i=captain@liberstation.com) joined ##slackware. [16:34] Camarade_Tux: Just wondering. I was on 2.6.31.2-bfs303 :) [16:34] Action: Camarade_Tux slaps stickyboy [16:34] why bfs? [16:35] I like experimenting. [16:35] Have you tried it? [16:35] no [16:36] I don't care about rt/latency [16:36] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:36] Well, "rt" makes it sound like I'm doing something important. [16:36] alicephilippa (i=alice@78.105.168.173) joined ##slackware. [16:37] I don't care about "rt" either... I just have a normal computer and think responsiveness could be better. [16:37] :) [16:37] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzYxNw \o/ [16:38] what do you call "responsiveness"? [16:38] Alt tab. Alt F2. [16:38] How long does it take for my damn gmrun window to pop up. [16:39] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62.47.142.179) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:39] bfs won't improve *anything [16:39] nothing will change [16:40] you might have visual effects, the app may need time, anything [16:41] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:42] Camarade_Tux: So you've tried it? :) [16:42] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.59.125.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:43] stickyboy: no but it doesn't even pretend or try to improve the responsivity problem you're seeing [16:43] (besides the fact it has no way to improve that) [16:46] I am pretty sure it's exactly the problem he's trying to improve. [16:46] tooly (n=theo@78.53.76.233) joined ##slackware. [16:47] corvo__ (n=corvo@199.205.35.201.res.dyn.netvision.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:47] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62.47.131.32) joined ##slackware. [16:48] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/beginner/bb308754.aspx [16:48] stickyboy: oh, sorry, complete lack of sleep made me overstate, it has to do with that but I don't think it'll change anything [16:49] for these specific cases at least [16:49] are you on kde4? [16:49] Camarade_Tux: I guess it's the same problem as his other scheduler. [16:49] (everybody should check out that msdn link btw ;-) [16:49] Karu (n=alch@78-28-66-239.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [16:50] corvo_ (n=corvo@201.35.205.199) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:51] Karu (n=alch@78-28-66-239.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: Client Quit [16:51] stickyboy: imho, the first way to get more responsiveness it to have less things running [16:51] less/lighter [16:54] Camarade_Tux: That link is only valid if you use MS products [16:54] doesn't help if you don't have those products available [16:54] Camarade_Tux: Yeah, you'd think so... but a gig of RAM running Fluxbox and sometimes I'm still surprised. [16:56] alisonken1home: how can I see it on ff with no add-on? [16:56] Action: Camarade_Tux checks the link [16:57] well, screenshot then [16:59] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.77.123.2) joined ##slackware. [16:59] Camarade_Tux: Do you use pcmanfm? [16:59] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-96.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:00] stickyboy: zsh :) [17:00] but pcmanfm is pretty nice [17:00] here you go: http://omploader.org/vMmtjcw/msdn_kids.png [17:01] however - it's still funny "kids, .... impress your friends with your mad skillz ..." and visual studio express :) [17:02] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:03] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [17:03] ah, I see, you wanted to see the videos on "What's the Internet" and "Object, properties, and more" [17:03] I had had enough with just that page, I didn't even look for anything to click on ;) [17:04] corvo_ (n=corvo@201.35.205.199) joined ##slackware. [17:04] http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/1/c/c1c5e333-fff4-4e52-b14d-f5af9ec32f36/What%20is%20the%20Internet.wmv [17:05] btw but I haven't tried to look at it (a friend of mine told me it was ${somewordIdon'tknowtheenglishtranslationfor}) [17:06] krillz (n=mos@home.rubicon.cx) joined ##slackware. [17:06] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [17:13] Camarade_Tux: That video is kids answering the question "what is the internet?" [17:13] alisonken1home: it's 11:13 pm, I'm going to bed soon, I think I don't want to have nightmares at night, I'll probably skip it today :P [17:13] that must be really horrible :P [17:14] (the second video is probably even worst actually) [17:15] corvo___ (n=corvo@199.205.35.201.res.dyn.netvision.com.br) joined ##slackware. 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[17:27] stickyboy (n=hugo@196.202.206.112) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:28] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [17:28] still staying away, too scary ;-) [17:29] but a quote from a gnome blog, it's about packagekit [17:29] "Ill not repeat what hes planning to do as all the details are available on his blog, but it basically involves adding a DBus frontend on debconf and telling packagekitd a private connection of a helper program running in the session." [17:29] intereting [17:29] interesting, rather [17:30] packagekitd and debconf [17:30] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:31] doesn't seem very "easy" [17:31] or simple [17:31] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [17:32] might end up being easy on the end-user, but takes a lot of work under the hood from the sounds of it [17:33] where is slackytude when you need him? [17:33] alisonken1home: yeah, exactly [17:33] deco (n=deco@69.108.88.254) left irc: "leaving" [17:34] at first I was thinking "might be cool with/on slackware", then I was more like "I hope slackware won't use that" [17:34] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [17:35] spooge (n=spooge@173-18-193-232.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [17:35] slackie (n=x@213.63.200.232) joined ##slackware. [17:35] tooly (n=theo@78.53.76.233) left irc: "Leaving." [17:36] corvo___ (n=corvo@199.205.35.201.res.dyn.netvision.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:40] Nick change: KB1JWQ -> KB1JWQ_ [17:40] Nick change: KB1JWQ_ -> KB1JWQ [17:40] how should I create /dev/sda13p1 device (sub partition exist) ? [17:40] huh [17:41] minor, major etc... [17:41] what do you want and what for? [17:41] root (i=0@82-37-18-214.cable.ubr03.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:41] its a sub partition, for qemu use... [17:42] what's a sub partition? [17:42] Nick change: root -> Guest14737 [17:42] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [17:42] its a ext3fs sub partition I wanna access to... [17:42] hi all, im new to slackware, just figured out how to run irssi lol. how can i get a desktop envirment running? [17:42] startx [17:42] Guest14737: tried running "startx"? [17:43] Is there a reason you're doing the partitioning like that? [17:43] slack comes with 2 by default: xfce an kde [17:43] wmconfig lets you select them as default for startx [17:43] EasyTUX: when i startx it tells me command not found [17:43] Guest14737: proper video driver specified in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and desktop environment setup [17:43] Guest14737: how did you install? [17:43] Guest, you're missing the X stuff it sounds like [17:43] did you only use cd1, by chance? [17:43] EasyTUX: I still don't get what a sub-partition is :o [17:43] yes [17:44] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:44] Camarade_Tux: off a cd 12.1 [17:44] only the dvd install has all packages - otherwise you need at least cd's 1-2 and possibly 3 [17:44] antiwire: Yes for disk preserving when runnng qemu hosts onto /dev/sda13 slice [17:44] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:44] wow i can't belive that kde 3.5 only consumes 97mb of RAM o_O i just installed the unsupported packages [17:44] slava_dp (n=slava@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:44] you can't believe that? kde3 is like 10 years old ;) [17:44] ahhh ok , i have purchased the linux bible and installed it off there and it says it just uses cd 1 . [17:44] Guest14737: if you have other CDs, you can still install easily from them [17:45] 97mb sounds unreal [17:45] Action: Camarade_Tux boots in X at 60MB [17:45] all included [17:45] wow. i'm using songbird and it doesn't support MSC device syncing [17:45] and i have apache and mysql running... [17:45] it seems like that would be the first audio device thing they'd set up [17:45] well, good night all :) [17:45] Camarade_Tux: i dont have the other cds [17:46] will i have to download slackware for me to startx? [17:46] Guest14737: which version of slackware did the bible have? [17:46] disk preserving...as in snapshots? [17:46] alisonken1home: 12.1 [17:46] You need the X stuff, not sure what CD that is on [17:46] ok - that's 2 versions old. there was 12.2 and 13.0 was released last month [17:47] ok so best to download latest then? [17:47] 12.1 is solid :) [17:47] if you have the bandwidth, try d/l the dvd via torrent. optionally, look at which cd's are needed and d/l those [17:48] the torrent link is in the channel topic, fyi [17:48] mancha: _all_ slackware releases are solid :) I was just pointing out he may want a newer version to play with instead of the old ones [17:48] how can i download in slack, im on the command line lol, new to it [17:48] do you have a cd or dvd burner? [17:48] yes [17:49] to dl the torrent you'd need a torrent client...not sure if any on cd1 (though i doubt it) [17:49] ok - figure out which one you want, then "lynx http://www.slackware.com/getslack/" [17:49] there's links in there to d/l via http and ftp [17:49] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-237-223.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [17:49] ok cool [17:50] exit [17:50] that link is the mirror page - so pick your closest mirror [17:50] alison, *nod* i understand why you mentioned 13.0 [17:50] how do i bring the shell back up ? [17:50] as in f1-f6 will give you alternate consoles [17:51] off-topic question: I have a self-created SSL certificate working with my apache server, just accepting it as an exception in a browser works fine - question is, how do I configure that kind of exception at a server level, when I want another one of my servers to invoke a web-service on the one with my self-signed cert ? [17:51] ahh thnkyou [17:51] the exception has to be on the client side - unless you get a cross-signed cert from one of the global cert sites [17:51] the browser is the one balking, isn't it? what do you mean server-level [17:52] alisonken1home: right, the "client" in this case is code running in another apache server, which I have access/control of - can I get the exception configured there ? [17:52] also, expect this functionality to remain, after all, the verisigns et al wanna continue making big bucks by saying "yeah, he's safe" [17:52] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [17:52] Shoot (n=Near@80.10.46.57) joined ##slackware. [17:53] not neccessarily "he's safe", but "at least he's jumped through the hoops and paid us big bucks, and we've minimally checked him out for his current requesst" [17:53] mancha: they'd still be needed for "mass consumption", I'm just trying to hook two specific servers togeher [17:53] yeah, my safe was tongue-in-cheek; it's a scam [17:53] my "safe" [17:53] as in failover servers or peer servers? [17:54] alisonken1home: peer servers [17:54] might want to get on #apache and talk to them then [17:54] OK, I thought I'd try my favorite group of smart people first :) [17:55] well, that _is_ a little more advanced on a specific app :) [17:55] agreed [17:55] SSLVerify sommit or other prolly [17:56] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.207.31.75) joined ##slackware. [17:58] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [17:59] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [17:59] yay! I am running 13 [17:59] Guest14737 (i=0@82-37-18-214.cable.ubr03.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:59] does anyone know why mplayerplug-in was removed from slackbuilds? [18:00] It's in extra/ [18:00] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/extra/mplayerplug-in/ [18:00] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:01] hi fire|bird [18:01] hi metrofox [18:01] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [18:01] ah ok [18:01] cryptic0, it's obsolete and it's not anymore developed, I guess... [18:01] and why is mplayer version change from 1.0rc-something to rc*** only? [18:02] is=did [18:02] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-35-25.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "need a guest reboot..." [18:02] *developed anymore [18:03] mplayer is not being developed? how could that be? [18:03] he meant the plugin [18:03] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.207.31.75) left irc: Operation timed out [18:04] i'm trying to install exaile from sbopkg, but it lists an old version in there [18:04] the new version is listed on slackbuilds.org [18:04] I wouldn't say obsolete though, the last update was 6.24.08 for mplayerplug-in [18:04] cryptic0 ;) [18:04] hmmm yeah, but what about mplayer version. it looks odd to me [18:04] amazon10x: tell sbopkg to sync with slackbuilds.org then forst. [18:04] first* [18:05] i did that [18:05] amazon10x: and it's pointing at the right repo, right? [18:05] oh wait [18:05] no [18:05] it says 12.2 [18:06] and you're on 13? [18:06] yeah [18:06] e01 (n=OSCorp01@213.169.52.50) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:06] i see how to fix it now. thanks [18:06] you're welcome [18:06] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.207.31.82) joined ##slackware. [18:06] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Leaving." [18:07] cryptic0, mplayer just quit releasing snapshots, and all distros pretty much pull SVN code themselves [18:09] that will explain it. ok wait, I can't locate mplayer in /var/log/packages/ [18:09] cryptic0, capital "M" :) [18:09] ah [18:10] cool. Do I need to install new codecs because it looks like there is no package installed for that. I still have the old 2007 codecs [18:11] fire|bird: i switched to kde 3.5 :P [18:11] WHAT?!?!?! [18:11] why 3.5? :P [18:11] cryptic0, you can, but not much really needs it these days [18:11] hey thrice`, how's it going? [18:11] fire|bird: it only consumes 97mb of Ram :P [18:12] I use mplayer for playing dvds [18:13] deco: kde4, right after login, only took 50-60 mb here. :P [18:13] You can probably get a smaller footprint out of KDE4 if you compile the very bare bones. I haven't confirmed that, but provided you can get something with the same set of features as a cut-down 3.5 then 4.x should be lighter. On account of Qt4 [18:13] fire|bird: hahaha well on this old lappy i feels super fast :P [18:13] it* [18:13] lol [18:13] There were some KDE 3.5 versus Gnome 2.something comparisons floating around before, I wonder if someone's repeated those for KDE4.x [18:14] fire|bird: it's actually faster then xfce on this laptop [18:14] Is enlightenment included with 13? [18:14] no [18:14] no [18:14] I have been using fluxbox but I want to try it out [18:14] was that no for me? [18:14] yes [18:14] i guess [18:15] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/desktop/enlightenment/ [18:15] fire|bird, going well, yourself? trying the new ubuntu in a VM at the moment [18:16] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-35-25.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:16] thrice`: going great, thanks. I downloaded the Ubuntu 9.10 beta or whatever last night to put in a VM. I've heard that it boots fast. [18:17] xdoctor (n=avs@201.78.194.151) left irc: "Leaving" [18:17] yeah, it's neat how polished linux can be :) [18:17] yeah [18:18] how have they made it boot faster? included fewer modules? [18:19] They've moved to Upstart, for one. [18:19] cryptic0, you should also get the libdvdcss if your using mplayer [18:19] deco, kde3 is very fast, even faster than xfce... [18:19] metrofox: yeah :) [18:20] metrofox: I don't know about that. [18:20] deco, did you downgrade for memory consume? [18:20] Scuzz, dang. I had installed libdvdcss but it disappeared. I don't have it anymore [18:20] strankan (n=strankan@213.112.205.64) left irc: "Get MacIrssi - http://www.sysctl.co.uk/projects/macirssi/" [18:20] did 13 get rid of it [18:20] metrofox: yeah ,this laptop is pretty old.. [18:20] thumbs, well, it also depends by laptop [18:20] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:20] uh, yeah :P [18:20] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-237-223.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: "Leaving" [18:21] metrofox: very old gpu :P [18:21] metrofox: on the same hardware, I used to run KDE3. Xfce is much faster. [18:21] cryptic0, its on slackbuilds [18:21] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:21] Nick change: nyRednek_ -> nyRednek [18:21] k [18:21] cryptic0, slackware never has installed libdvdcss by default [18:21] that would violate some laws, I think [18:21] yep [18:21] yes, but I had installed it previously [18:22] thumbs, maybe xfce is faster because it has less plugins than KDE3 [18:22] Shoot (n=Near@80.10.46.57) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [18:22] It's lighter... [18:22] metrofox: but on this laptop kde 3.5 for some reason is so much faster then xce [18:22] xfce* [18:22] metrofox: I don't know. It's considerably faster here. [18:22] kde3 is 5 years old, that's probably why [18:23] yeah, it's a well stable and well mature project [18:23] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.24.69) joined ##slackware. [18:25] deco, maybe because you just installed it, so it's very clean, tell us next 3 weeks :P [18:25] is adobe reader 9.1.x is an entirely new package? will it not replace the older adobe reader 8 I have on my system? [18:25] do I need to remove the old before I can install the new one? [18:25] I'd suggest to remove the older one and to install the newer... [18:25] upgradepkg [18:25] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:25] yeah... I'd suggest to upgrade :P [18:26] lol [18:26] :P [18:26] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [18:26] Studying for a math test here. The posted solutions to problems asking us to prove something feature proofs that are different from my own. Is there only one acceptable method of proof for a specific problem? [18:26] huh ? o_O [18:26] We(not me, I don't use that) Italians use the 8 version because the 9 isn't Italian yet... [18:26] ##slackware is now known as ##slackware-math ;) [18:26] deco will by your professor [18:26] Whoah wrong channel. [18:27] o.o [18:27] be* [18:27] hehh.. [18:27] fire|bird: they will all fail lol [18:27] what he said? :P [18:27] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left ##slackware. [18:27] hmbr (n=helder@unaffiliated/hmbr) joined ##slackware. [18:27] deco: no doubt, F's for everyone. :P [18:27] Linear Algebra =] [18:27] fire|bird: yes :P [18:28] ok class [18:28] 2+2=5 [18:28] fail [18:28] why fail? [18:28] ain't 5 the result? [18:28] hmbr (n=helder@unaffiliated/hmbr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:28] because deco is aweful at math, so we all fail. [18:28] what is adobe reader binary called now? [18:28] it used to be acroread [18:28] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.59.125.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:28] metrofox: what fire|bird said :P [18:29] cryptic0: it still is [18:29] ok [18:29] _bruno_ (n=bruno@189-47-240-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:29] i thought it was ocular [18:29] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:29] okular != Adobe [18:30] uhg yeah that [18:30] Scuzz: okular is kde 4's pdf reader [18:30] since i have no idea what we are talking about ill sit in the corner again [18:30] lol [18:30] Scuzz, watching us joking? :P [18:30] go sit in the corner little Scuzz [18:31] Action: Scuzz sits on decos cat [18:31] MEOW [18:31] fire|bird, he meant cat, not bird [18:31] Scuzz: sadly i don't have acat... [18:31] a cat* [18:31] realy [18:31] *he said [18:31] and now i will call your parents [18:31] i thought you had some kind of cat fetish [18:32] metrofox: The cat got annoying, I tossed him out the window, hope that whole 9 lives thing is true. :P [18:32] lol [18:32] fire|bird, he died because of Scuzz [18:32] :( [18:32] he spent all his lives... [18:32] That's why when I tossed him he wasn't moving. Hmmm.... [18:32] _bruno__ (n=bruno@189-47-240-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:33] Well Scuzz, see what you've started? [18:33] weirdos , look at you talking about cats.... [18:33] lol [18:33] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-240-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:33] Nick change: _bruno__ -> _bruno [18:33] i had no idea [18:33] i stopped already [18:33] and you guys... [18:33] what ever [18:34] deco: shaddup. :P [18:34] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-240-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [18:34] ...... [18:35] poor deco, what did he do so bad? [18:35] metrofox: repetative "......" :P [18:35] deco, shaddup! [18:35] it's my trademark shaddup ! [18:35] it's cool, yeah! [18:36] I should make a shirt with written "shaddup!" on! [18:36] err, s/repetative/repetitive/ [18:36] fire|bird: fail [18:36] nah, a black shirt with this "deco ......" [18:36] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.23.218) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:36] eh, yeah... I made a little fail fire|bird :P [18:36] ya know, if you rearrange the letters in deco, you get code. :P [18:37] *you made [18:37] :o [18:37] mmm... [18:37] spooge (n=spooge@173-18-193-232.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:38] Action: metrofox sprinkles Scuzz in the corner [18:38] sprinkles ? [18:38] metrofox rearranged could be term of ox :P [18:38] ox? [18:38] you don't know what an ox is? [18:39] uh [18:39] is ox the animal? [18:39] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ox [18:39] yes, an animal [18:39] hmm, upstart seems okay actually. [18:39] the one near Jesus when he was born? [18:39] lol [18:39] :o jesus! [18:39] a bit complex however [18:39] ? [18:40] no i didn't call you winter :P [18:40] so you're clueless! [18:40] isn't he always? [18:40] ..... [18:40] :O, there it is again. [18:40] BP{k} (n=michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) left irc: "leaving" [18:40] yeah... I gotta make that shirt [18:40] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:40] "deco ....." [18:40] white on deep black... [18:40] black shirt ---> "deco ....") [18:41] i actually have the tools to make one... [18:41] BP{k} (n=michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) joined ##slackware. [18:41] Ozzy (n=Ozzy@host86-133-25-51.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [18:41] I just need cotton and my grandma... [18:41] a heating press thingy for shirts.. [18:41] metrofox: hehe :P [18:41] can I be an idiot, and ask how to install openoffice on slackware? [18:42] Ozzy, no you can't... :P [18:42] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/office/openoffice.org/ [18:42] and http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [18:42] watch out fire|bird's on a roll [18:42] metrofox: Ok. [18:42] .slackb openoffice [18:42] fire|bird has got all the www in inside his HD... That's why he finds URL so fast! [18:42] fire|bird: Thanks [18:42] you're welcome [18:42] bookmarks ? [18:42] nNavii (n=duvaz@189.183.87.187) left ##slackware. [18:43] naaa... He's all written in his mind... ain't it so fire|bird? [18:43] bird's brain is small [18:43] A firebird never reveals his secrets. :) [18:43] thank god [18:43] ... [18:43] Humm, got the solution : -hdb /dev/sda13 with another guest that can access sda13 as a single disk... eh eh. Though if someone cares... [18:43] deco: Well, you know I don't write them down, the paper catches fire. :P [18:44] fire|bird: ah yes :P [18:44] how many birds could a fire|bird fire if a fire|bird could fire birds? [18:44] good observation... [18:44] quasar: nice [18:44] quasar: about 3 [18:44] what is that alsa website script that automatically tries to detect problems if any with your soundcard? [18:45] it's 0:45 a.m., don't make me do calculations now or I'll fail 'til I won't sleep [18:45] gnubien (n=e@58.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:45] :P [18:45] cryptic0, the hear? [18:45] :D [18:45] 00:45 isn't nothing, I'm up till around 03:00, at least. :P [18:46] metrofox, lol, good one. [18:46] fire|bird, you just won a cookie! Congratulations :P [18:46] I can't seem to remember what it was [18:46] \o/ [18:46] All cookies are belong to me. :D [18:46] what kind are they? [18:46] chocolate [18:46] he can have 'em. [18:47] i once went 24 hours without sleep [18:47] you look crazy :P [18:47] i went 3 days [18:47] untill i ran out of cocaine [18:47] and then i played soccer... [18:47] :O [18:47] deco, with zombies?^ [18:47] metrofox: dunno didn't open my eyes :P [18:47] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [18:48] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:48] deco, oh well.. you were the zombie though [18:48] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.207.31.82) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:48] never play a sport when you have been awake for 24 hours [18:49] nver do anything except sleep [18:49] or donate blood then drive a long distance :) [18:49] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-0-86.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) left ##slackware. [18:49] i felt so sick!! :( [18:49] deco, thank you for your suggestion, I won't :P [18:50] metrofox: yeah and play the whole game with only a 8 minute break :P [18:50] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-83-181.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:50] an* [18:50] running, walking or sleeping? [18:50] ahah :D [18:50] _bruno_ (n=bruno@189-47-240-240.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Connection timed out [18:50] i tried to run but i was mostly walking XD [18:50] it depends by the age too... [18:50] 21 [18:51] i couldn't keep my eyes open [18:51] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:51] oh well... You're young! You should run like a rabbit! [18:51] metrofox: not when you have been awake for 24 hours :P [18:51] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [18:51] deco, yes :P [18:51] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [18:51] good thing i didn't vomit ... [18:51] didn't eat anything really... [18:51] like that kid on CNN? [18:51] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [18:52] deco, you were lucky! A friend of mine vomit during the match! [18:52] metrofox: ewww yeah ive seen that happen lol [18:52] he ate a familiar pizza 30 mins before playing... But I'm talking about different facts :D [18:52] lol [18:53] harls (n=harls@pool-96-244-239-100.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:53] when he did it! I said, well I'm gonna take a shower now, match is over! [18:53] I was vomiting too :P [18:53] oh lol! [18:54] slackie (n=x@213.63.200.232) left irc: "Papaver Somniferum" [18:54] yeah... I saw ham, mozzarella along the field... [18:54] TMI!! [18:54] So I just refused playing... [18:54] :P [18:55] Just image if I fell down on that! [18:55] oh god [18:55] Oh, no don't image! [18:55] ROTFL [18:55] i woud take 5 showers lol [18:55] T_T [18:55] s/5/10/ [18:55] .... [18:56] deco, I would throw my pants, my underwear, my shoes, my shirt... [18:56] my socks... myself! [18:56] lol [18:58] metrofox: i would burn all of that :P [18:58] Does anyone else like the tama superstar hyperdrive? (or is this off topic? lol) [18:58] we usually do it on St.Joseph day :P [18:58] hahaha [18:58] :P [18:58] Ozzy, is it a drum? :P [18:59] tama drums! :P [18:59] :O Yeh! drum kit anyway [18:59] :D [18:59] mernil (n=mernil@85.24.223.74) joined ##slackware. [18:59] deco, really! On St.Joseph day in Palermo we burn wood and whatever... [18:59] metrofox: that's sounds like fun ! :D [19:00] i would burn stupid peope too! [19:00] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:00] people* [19:00] ju jävlar i min låda.. 'r det fan dags att höja ribban! [19:00] and witches! [19:00] oh no wrong time [19:00] Ozzy, I play yamaha, I'd like having a Tama, it's so expensive! [19:00] deco, I thought... [19:00] mernil: english only please [19:00] fire|bird: okidok :-P [19:00] watch out it's the language police! [19:00] :P [19:00] rotfl [19:00] Hm, hyperdrives sound... short. [19:01] metrofox, that's awesome. I'm just buying a new kit and went to try the superstar today. totally love it. [19:01] metrofox: i played guitar but not so much anymore.... [19:01] Ozzy, yamaha kit or tama? [19:01] sorry for my native language then.. [19:01] deco, lets make an internet band! [19:01] deco, which guitar? :P [19:01] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:01] ibanez of course ! :P [19:02] i play guitar and ibanez ^^ [19:02] eheh, ibanez! [19:02] Ozzy: no recording gear :P [19:02] deco deco deco [19:02] jeeeeeeeeeev [19:02] deco³ [19:02] what a coinzident you and me.. and same guitar!! [19:02] metrofox, the superstar hyperdrive is a tama kit. I have a pearl at the moment. [19:02] deco, aww man. Oh well :( [19:02] and then get laid. [19:02] or before it. [19:03] Action: winter ^^ [19:03] Ozzy, how did you feel with pearl? Did you like it? [19:03] only me, is faster, more accurate and technically more skilled! [19:03] i haven't playe it really in 2 years gonna have to practice again.... [19:03] ;-) [19:03] deco, it's funny and a good hobby ;) [19:03] i played for 6 years [19:03] i have a recording :P [19:03] i've played for ehh.. 25 years :-P [19:04] mernil: :P [19:04] I'm looking for a box where putting my drums and also looking for teenagers playing with me [19:04] _MaggoT_ (n=NewBie@110.138.93.69) left irc: [19:04] This would be great! Making a rockband! [19:04] metrofox: My pearl kit has lasted me years. the are really really well built kits but they havn't really evolved in terms of hardware. Definatly if you like rocky kits I would recomend them [19:04] *they [19:04] smash that maggot up [19:04] yeah , i could never make one... all the musicians here sucked :P [19:05] deco: i'm not joking.. i rock! [19:05] Ozzy, thank you, when I'll have money to spend I'll buy a pearl ;) [19:05] metrofox: lol no worries. make sure you go for a higher end one though. the cheaper range arn't worth the money [19:05] deco, what?!? All musicians sucked? [19:05] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:06] metrofox: yeah :/ my fried got all the good ones :P [19:06] friend* [19:06] but yeah the good ones lived far away.. [19:06] tho, my musicianship sometimes is to much! [19:06] Why is it that when guitarists park in disabled parking spaces they don't get a ticket? [19:07] lol [19:07] THEY PUT A CAPO ON THE DASHBOARD! [19:07] :o [19:07] the art of playing the guitar is sometimes to much for me to handle! [19:07] here's a recording i did like 2 years ago it was a quick recording so nothing pro :P all in one take [19:07] http://wikisend.com/download/446580/00 - Unknown - guitar improvisation.mp3 [19:08] loading loading loading [19:08] well.. all you abateurs.. fuck off.. i owe you so much :-) [19:08] deco: that's you on the guitar? [19:09] amazon10x: yeah 2 years ago [19:09] deco, is it you playing? [19:09] yeah [19:09] doing the power chords, or the solo [19:09] solo [19:09] haha okay [19:09] chords,drums etc.. are a backing track [19:09] i just play the solos [19:09] mmm... He uploaded a Van Halen song! [19:09] :P [19:09] :P [19:09] deco: owns us all! [19:10] i was trying to play this simple guitar solo earlier, but i'm having trouble sustaining notes on my acoustic [19:10] except me [19:10] mernil: online guitar showdown. gogogo [19:11] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:11] every once in a while xfce makes a dun-dun-dun sound [19:11] deco, is it really you? O.O [19:11] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [19:11] metrofox: yes! [19:11] deco, you brake! [19:11] 6 hours of practice during high school.... :P [19:11] everyday [19:12] hard training :P [19:12] gets you far [19:12] but results are more than good! [19:12] I dont even practice sitting on my ass that much and believe me, I do plenty of sitting on my ass o.o [19:12] :P [19:12] well.. compared to sitting on my face anyway [19:12] rotfl [19:13] deco, so you were 19 when you played this... It's amazing ;) [19:13] Unvelivalble good martial artist from sweden. Tim Man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsdVYOM0SX8 [19:13] huh i thought deco was like 17 [19:13] mernil: i played better when i was 16 actually :P lol [19:13] metrofox: * [19:14] deco: well, u play guitar anyways! :-) [19:14] well deco, 1 year shouldn't make the difference I guess ;) [19:14] yeah, you do it well [19:14] metrofox: hehe :P [19:14] metrofox: thanks [19:14] I mean, playing giutar :P [19:14] *giutar [19:14] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.157.147) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:14] *guitar [19:14] i just kinda lost the motivation to play .. [19:14] okay, does anyone here have an msc audio player that they sync with their slackbox? what audio software do you use? [19:15] deco, why? [19:15] everything i'm finding doesn't support MSC for syncing [19:15] metrofox: i dunno really :(, personal stuff i guess... [19:15] deco, don't lost this hobby... [19:16] metrofox: yeah i will again .... [19:16] thanks [19:16] thnx all for the openoffice help. worked perfectly. i gotta go so see you later :) [19:16] making music is funny, makes you fell good [19:16] see ya Ozzy [19:16] Ozzy (n=Ozzy@host86-133-25-51.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:16] deco, ;) I hope so, you're very a good guitarist! [19:16] metrofox: thanks! [19:18] sometime I'll make a recording too while playing the drums ;) [19:18] you can play guitar and drums at the same time? [19:18] amazon10x, I don't play guitar [19:18] mernil (n=mernil@85.24.223.74) left irc: "leaving" [19:18] I can.. but that's because I'm epic. [19:18] ahh [19:18] amazon10x, however yes... I play it with my tongue [19:18] haha [19:18] i'm playing right now [19:19] not with my tongue though [19:19] http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/j/john_mayer/good_love_is_on_the_way_tab.htm [19:19] and are you writing with your feet? :P [19:19] just the intro [19:19] microphone diction for chatting [19:19] uh, john mayer! [19:19] it's good way for talking ;) [19:20] i'm trying to figure out wth a pick scrape is [19:21] metrofox: i actually played van halen's eruption at a high school talent show when i was 16 and won :P [19:21] deco, I'm listening to Hot for Teacher right now :P [19:21] lol yeah good song [19:22] deco, in Italy we don't do anything of all this! I mean... It's so boring here... [19:22] we just study 5-6 hours at day, we go home, do our homework and same for tomorrow and for all school days... [19:23] metrofox: well in my high school it was a spanish teacher that organized it so... if it wasn't for him there wouldn't be a show :P [19:23] i have no idea why anyone would think locking kids away for the whole day is a good idea [19:23] deco, do you really have talent shows at school... The dance and all this good stuff? [19:23] i just can't even imagine just every single day sitting around for hours at school [19:24] metrofox: yeah [19:24] deco, :O [19:24] amazon10x, you don't even image, I do it! [19:25] I remain sitting all moring long! [19:25] *morning [19:26] metrofox: you're a high school student right ? [19:26] deco, yes I'm... and that's why all we hate school here... Schools suck! [19:26] spar (i=spa@spa.m1rc.net) joined ##slackware. [19:26] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:26] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [19:27] metrofox: oh but that's everywhere :P [19:27] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.157.147) joined ##slackware. [19:27] metrofox: i hated school too etc... [19:27] deco, here school works that you got assigned in a class, I've to remain all scholastic year inside of it, it's a little room with 20 students inside... [19:28] you don't get to walk between different rooms? [19:28] wow, i bet that makes it even worse [19:28] amazon10x, no we don't... [19:28] metrofox: i hated changing class rooms :P lol [19:28] deco, I love it... I'd really like do it... [19:29] hehe, i guess it's cool to try something different.. [19:30] i much prefer the collegiate style pick your own classes and classrooms, show up when/if you want to, etc [19:30] deco, yes it is... Lessons are bored, we have only 20 minutes free [19:30] amazon10x: yeah that's the best imo [19:30] and 5/6 consecutive hours to study... 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[19:45] im doing funny things with my good old greenphone hehe [19:46] why not just change tty's and run it? [19:46] how? :S [19:46] arronstoned (n=RahmboDe@70.44.195.123.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [19:46] hi [19:46] alt+f2 [19:47] If i want to give user accounts a remote (and centralized) directory to store their files, would i use samba? [19:47] thrice`: i sshd to the phone [19:47] is that the primary role of samba in a nut shell ? [19:48] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:49] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-79-87.ip37.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "leaving" [19:49] grazymax (n=grazymax@host6-26-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:51] grazymax (n=grazymax@host48-1-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:53] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[20:39] cool story bro! [20:39] lib (i=hex@c-24-62-138-235.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:41] check out this room http://i.imgur.com/pDvQK.jpg [20:41] arno (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:41] i think something like that would be pretty cool. i'd need a really tall ceiling though to be able to get both levels tall enough [20:41] amazon10x, interesting [20:45] chalcedony (n=llhull@unaffiliated/chalcedony) joined ##slackware. [20:45] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:45] Action: chalcedony waves at nyRednek [20:48] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:50] ok, i just wrote undernet off [20:50] nyRednek, ? [20:51] TwinReverb: well, been hanging out more here than undernet for past month, and found an excuse to stop attending the linux channel there [20:52] Action: TwinReverb hangs out in #slackware on UN [20:52] (er undernet) [20:52] TwinReverb: i meant linuxhelp [20:52] oh [20:53] since, if you remember, #linux is someone's ego trip, and #linuxhelp is the support channel [20:53] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [20:54] i'm hoping to take more time sequencing a few songs anyways... [20:54] and got "baby please don't go" half sequenced now [20:54] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [20:55] undernet seems to react way too slow in my experience, and #slackware is an idle irc parking lot [20:55] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:56] what's the most easy way to get the lastest version of gtk+ (ya, don't say compile it please)? [20:57] julioc, there isn't [20:57] julioc: get the slackbuild, then modify for the latest release maybe [20:57] gtk is tough to compile [20:57] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:58] thrice`, what's tough about it? how long it takes? [20:58] amazon10x: there's no one slackbuild [20:58] k [20:58] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [20:58] no, that you need to do the entire gtk stack - atk, glib (dangerous!), glitz, pango, and gtk [20:59] also, gtk spams your / , so it needs to be done in a chroot [21:00] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [21:01] ;/ [21:01] julioc, do you *need* it? [21:01] have a way to fool it -> "required gtk+ version 2.16, current version is 2.14" [21:02] nope, you can't [21:02] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.207.31.94) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:02] thrice`: so I need ;/ [21:03] only because "DeVeDe" [21:03] or use an older version of the app. slackware traditionally sucks with shipping recent gtk veresions [21:03] (this drives me nuts too) [21:04] cant you jsut modify the slackbuild on your source cd ? [21:04] thrice`, it sucks because it ships recent gtk version or because it doesn't? (/me is clueless) [21:04] it is always a major version behind, for no reason [21:06] julioc: i got installed by using an old rpm of it [21:06] just rpm2tgz [21:06] woah, *don't* do that [21:06] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [21:06] as mentioned, gtk heavily depends on the entire gtk stack [21:06] thrice`: i had a tgz package of it [21:06] thrice`: devede that is [21:08] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [21:10] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:10] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:12] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:18] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:19] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:19] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:19] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:20] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:35] opensourceAJ (n=opensour@c122-108-8-126.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au) left ##slackware ("Into the Ether"). [21:35] I am doing great, thank you. Ugh, windows, why? :P [21:36] andarius: semi-slackers? there doesn't exist such thing [21:36] is for my sister. [21:36] She hasn't been converted to slack yet? :P [21:36] greetings andarius, fire|bird:) [21:36] akira42: i only run slackware on my server. it is not on my desktop [21:36] hey hitest, how's it going? [21:36] salutations hitest [21:36] :) [21:37] andarius: well, I think, it's not that gread desktop system [21:37] I am very well, fire|bird, ty. how are you? [21:37] fire|bird: she has not and likely will not. she uses windows at work and is the the majority OS. is more logical to leave her on it [21:37] s/gread/great [21:37] how are you andarius? [21:37] andarius: Ah, ok. Yeah, then Windows would be a better choice to stick with. [21:37] hitest: I'm great, thank you. :) [21:37] akira42: it is more responsive than when it did run slack, boots in 1/4 the time and does all the same stuff. [21:37] wotcha andarius :) [21:38] wotcha BP{k} :) [21:38] hitest: doing well, thank you [21:38] yw:) [21:38] thrice`: kk [21:39] deco: you use an old rpm, and works? [21:40] julioc: You were trying to use devede, correct? [21:40] used* [21:40] MrJackson (n=MrJackso@173-86-48-121.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [21:40] fire|bird: yes sir :/ [21:40] julioc: Have you tried this at all? http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/devede/ [21:41] fire|bird: hm, old gtk, right? [21:42] julioc: yeah, older gtk I would assume, that is from slack 12.2 (I'm not sure what gtk version 12.2 had) but should work for 13 as well I would think. [21:42] here I have 'devede-3.14.0', nice tip fire|bird. I'll try this now [21:44] lagann_ (i=hex@c-24-62-138-235.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:45] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [21:45] harls (n=harls@pool-96-244-239-100.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:46] fire|bird: gtk+-1.2.10-i486-4 and gtk+2-2.12.12-i486-1 [21:47] thanks BP{k} [21:47] hm, so will work [21:49] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:50] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [21:50] k, there's a problem. the source is not available fire|bird [21:50] julioc: yeah [21:50] it worked [21:54] julioc: you occasionlly have to edit slackbuilds before running them [21:55] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) joined ##slackware. [21:56] BP{k}: you have the source? [21:56] nyRednek: nah, I really need this version [21:56] julioc: of? [21:56] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [21:57] BP{k}: devede-3.11b' [21:58] julioc: why would I have that source? [21:58] julioc just try the rpm2tgz thing i told you about .... [21:58] TwinReverb (n=robert@61.43.249.3) joined ##slackware. [21:58] julioc: have you even googled that? [21:58] sarkoman (n=sakoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:59] he doesn't want help..... [21:59] sarkoman (n=sakoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [21:59] rworkman, no rsync? [21:59] Why does Spanish require punctuation at both ends of a sentence? [21:59] the version listed and the link given for the slackbuild is out dated. it seems they only keep the latest on hand on the site [21:59] godling: that's just how it is [22:00] ^^ my last was in ref devede [22:00] deco: heheh [22:00] julioc: heheh what ? [22:00] .... [22:00] http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede_es.html <<- go there, get latest, edit slackbuild as needed [22:00] deco: That's not very efficient. :) [22:00] godling: it's good ... [22:00] uh nevermind rworkman [22:00] PEBKAC [22:01] TwinReverb: What a surprise! [22:01] ;P [22:01] andarius: The latest, iirc, needs a different gtk version. [22:01] julioc: I am going to asume that 1) you ask me for a vague reason if I have the source (no, I don't keep the source around of stuff I check out, unless I find the application interesting 2) you haven't even googled the tar ball name [22:01] Action: TwinReverb stabs godling [22:01] Action: godling stands aside and the blade gets deco in the eye [22:02] ..... [22:02] godling: grow up [22:02] julioc: I managed to download the source with 2 clicks. [22:02] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/sanzilla) joined ##slackware. [22:02] Action: TwinReverb reverses and gets godling anyways [22:03] deco: Lighten up. :P [22:03] growing up is highly over rated :) [22:03] godling: i can't right now :( [22:03] only time will help me ... [22:04] besides, deco telling anyone to grow up is funny. :P [22:04] BP{k}: yep, the program is working now. thanks all [22:05] what's with the knife-play? [22:05] you boys didn't invite me? [22:05] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [22:05] TwinReverb thinks we're in a Mexican bar. [22:05] dos tequilas, please [22:05] mm knifeplay ;) [22:05] mancha, s/please/por favor [22:05] Action: nyRednek stabs TwinReverb in heels [22:06] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:06] dos por favor, please [22:06] Action: Intel[R]VT-x is back after a long reading [22:06] mancha: ¿Usted tienen gusto de ver el burro demostraron? [22:06] english... [22:06] why does my new 13 installation tries to launch appletalk and nbprgstr daemons? I don't think I need either one of them. [22:07] cryptic0: chmod -x the rc scripts [22:07] Intel[R]VT-x: disable your away / return messages [22:07] everyone needs appletalk [22:07] Man_of_Wax, do I need appletalk if I am using samba networking? [22:07] Action: TwinReverb "in soviet russia, knife stabs J000!!!" [22:07] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: No route to host [22:07] no, but you do need smarter tab-complete [22:08] andarius: People in Mexican bars only speak English when they're portrayed in film. [22:08] lol, yes I do [22:08] sorry [22:08] Intel[R]VT-x is the best [22:08] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:08] it's ok, i've not been called man-o-wax since 3rd grade with mrs. pumpernickel [22:08] mancha: i'm afraid to ask [22:08] I just asked him if he wanted to see a donkey show [22:09] godling: this is by no menas a mexican bar [22:09] godling: been there, saw it, got the sloppy seconds [22:10] andarius: Then what's with the guitar case? [22:10] i was bored and installed a computer in it the is a 12 node cluster [22:10] more seriously, samba and appletalk are entirely different prohtokolhs [22:10] Intel[R]VT-x: pardon me? [22:10] i trashed the instrument [22:10] because he has an gun inside! [22:10] smb (or cifs) i guess. samba is linux's answer to windows crapfest file sharing [22:10] a* [22:11] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [22:11] hey all trying to mount a ext2 fs and it says its to small or something in dmesg .. any ideas ? [22:11] extenz? [22:11] macman_: please, don't give us the full error [22:11] macman_: yeah, find out the real error message and get back to us :P [22:11] its ext2 [22:11] translate the "or something" and come back to tell us what it says [22:11] thumbsi can't cause im dual bootin [22:11] you don't have a pen and paper? [22:12] lol [22:12] when i do a mount -t ext2 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/folder it says bad fs .. when i do a fdisk -l it says the filesystem is linux [22:12] macman_: write it down. [22:12] be fbzrguvat [22:12] macman_: give us the exactly error. [22:12] Hey ho everyone [22:12] i'm not a ho [22:12] I think mancha ate the brown acid. [22:12] nor am i [22:13] let me google it i think its a common error [22:13] macman_: sigh [22:13] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:13] is it ext2? [22:14] http://www.tacofactoryinc.com # if any of you guys live near this place, do yourself a favor and check it out. [22:14] Zatcharius (n=koni@ip70-174-181-228.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:14] Obviously he needs to run some command, or maybe do something else. Why can't you guys give good advice? [22:15] rworkman: well we don't know what the exact problem is. [22:15] i think people ave asked for a verbatim error message which would help a lot [22:15] thumbs: sarcasm detection fail. [22:15] rworkman: cause we dont know anything :( [22:15] rworkman: oh. [22:15] andarius: ^ [22:15] rworkman: same to you :P [22:15] rworkman has a sense of humor? [22:15] :) [22:15] bad fs _could_ mean a corrupt ext2, or that its not ext2 at all [22:15] or "something else" (tm) [22:16] ok i will brb with the error [22:16] maybe he's trying to mount at aco [22:16] ok that's silly but these chicken tacos are awesome [22:16] lets just say i have tried to mount it with mount -a mount -t ext2 mount -t ext3 mount -t reiserfs [22:16] nothing [22:16] still no ideas or do you want the exact error [22:17] this shoudl nto be a shotgun approach, what fs is on that partition? [22:17] macman_: does cfdisk see it? [22:17] yes [22:17] gparted shows it as ext2 [22:17] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [22:17] cfdisk recognizes it [22:17] i just can't mount it to a folder / device [22:17] don't use a t, just mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/whatev [22:17] what's that show? [22:18] Why don't you boot that system and talk to us from there? I personally don't have time or desire to troubleshoot like this. 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[22:24] good evening people [22:25] anyone uses enlightenment here? [22:25] i did for a couple of minutes.. [22:25] no, i fell off the eightfolded path and my mind landed in the gutter. ;) [22:25] does anybody have info on any kismet tutorials [22:25] I haven't used E since Slackware 7 [22:25] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:26] acdc_: Google. [22:26] okay godling [22:26] ^ you can tell he got pissed [22:29] no i did not get pissed [22:29] acdc_: praise the lord! \o/ [22:29] :) [22:29] actually i am sort of new to slackware [22:29] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:30] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [22:30] mancha: http://www.epa.gov/methane/sources.html#anthropogenic [22:30] mancha: What's the EPA term for farting? [22:30] i would be really happy if someone could point me to some links on how to configure hibernate and suspend to ram on a laptop [22:30] stranger (n=ubuntu@70-6-132-168.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [22:30] hi all im back [22:31] im on linux [22:31] let me mount the external and tell you what it says [22:31] come here often, stranger? [22:31] I just upgraded pidgin in slackware-current, and the icons have mysteriously vanished. :/ [22:31] ./dev/sdb1 1 60801 488384001 83 Linux [22:31] ok that is what fdisk -l says [22:31] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: "Leaving" [22:32] NaCl: Maybe the pidgin flew the coupe with them. :P [22:32] Action: godling plucks fire|bird [22:32] stranger, thats good, so its ready for an fs, now what fs is on it? [22:32] [ 620.687833] EXT2-fs: blocksize too small for device. [22:32] i would be really happy if someone could point me to some links on how to configure hibernate and suspend to ram on a laptop [22:32] that is the error [22:32] acdc_: he hard you the first ime [22:32] time* [22:32] i did a mount -t ext2 /devs/db1 /mnt/martha [22:32] we* [22:33] Action: NaCl slaps fire|bird with a large trout [22:33] i said no -t [22:33] okay sorry [22:33] s/hard/heard/ [22:33] fire|bird: :P [22:33] lol [22:33] even with no -t i get the same thing [22:33] mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/martha [22:33] same exact error? [22:33] no -t = mount: you must specify the filesystem type [22:33] fire|bird: i already said i have too many bread crumbs under my keys! [22:33] ok, it's not ext2, what made you think it was? [22:33] deco: and they're affecting your typing. :P [22:33] mancha: gparted [22:34] NaCl: I have current in a VM, I can upgrade pidgin and see if any icons go mia. [22:34] who formatted this drive? [22:34] fire|bird: please do [22:34] mancha: wife's dad .. there are movies on there [22:34] what kind of movies ? [22:34] .... [22:34] does he use linux? [22:34] cfdisk /dev/sdb says sdb1 ext2 [22:35] acdc_: /usr/doc/pm-utils-*/ [22:35] I find a real way to bond with your father-in-law is to hose the drive he keeps his films on. [22:35] stranger, are you willing to try and fix it? [22:36] NaCl: someone else had that same issue with pidgin on LQ....not sure if this is an answer or not --> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/missing-icons-in-pidgin-with-slackware-13.0-754659/?highlight=pidgin [22:36] mancha: yea but i can't format it [22:36] rworkman: thanks [22:36] neonflux: seems overkill [22:37] stranger ok, if you're pretty sure it is ext2 (or is supposed to be), you can try fsck -t ext2 /dev/sdb1 [22:37] fsck is a check volume right ? [22:37] yes, check fs [22:37] NaCl: yep [22:37] ok mancha im doing it now [22:38] NaCl: Sometimes the only alternative is to nuke it from orbit. [22:38] mancha: fsck.ext2: The ext2 superblock is corrupt while trying to open /dev/sdb1 [22:38] ugh [22:38] Try plain "fsck /dev/sdb1" [22:39] same error ... at the end it says e2fsck -b 8193 [22:39] consider data recovery tools [22:39] neonflux: It sounds like an icon cache glitch. [22:39] and last question before i leave, can you give info on any kismet tutorials other than the readme that comes with it [22:39] you asked that question first, acdc_ [22:40] i have system rescue cd [22:40] godling: orbital bombardment is not an option right ow. [22:40] it won't mount it eaither [22:40] stranger, try that alternate superblock it suggested [22:40] stranger: no, don't mount it. [22:40] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-35-25.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "_°+°_" [22:40] im not [22:40] okay thanx i forgot [22:40] e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/sdb1 [22:40] acdc_ (n=acdc@122.167.23.176) left irc: "Leaving" [22:40] you forgot? [22:40] i know i can't do anythign when it is mounted [22:41] andarius (n=andarius@67.191.170.126) left irc: "my mind has taken an indefinate vacation and taken my sense of responsibility with it" [22:42] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-21-229.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:42] esame error .. e2fsck dosen't work [22:42] same* [22:42] stranger: consider data recovery tools [22:42] thumbs: as in ? [22:43] stranger: http://www.google.ca/search?q=ext2+data+recovery&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a [22:43] very strange...testdisk is a possible route (for data recovery) [22:43] hi all , I am a expert kernel programmer do you have any problems regarding the kernel programming ask from me [22:43] Intel[R]VT-x: shut up [22:43] did your girl's dad use linux to make this partition? and save the movies? [22:43] rworkman: care to boot that troll? [22:43] dang i have testdisk i forgot the cd [22:43] ugh [22:44] hey [22:44] systemrescurecd should have testdisk right [22:44] stranger: I don't recall. [22:45] yes, it does. [22:45] it does [22:45] i will brb [22:45] stranger (n=ubuntu@70-6-132-168.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:45] ^ ubuntu [22:45] :o [22:46] ##slackware: mode change '+o rworkman' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. 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[22:50] pwnt [22:50] haha, sucks :) [22:50] LMAO [22:50] lol [22:50] lol [22:50] fire|bird: from the pidgin changelog: nstall scalable versions of the main Pidgin icon, the protocol icons, the dialog icons, and the Buddy List emblems. [22:50] julioc (n=Who@unaffiliated/juli0/x-182974) left irc: "Use the source, guy" [22:50] Run the gtk-update-icon-cache command and see fi that helps [22:50] Does GTK have some problem with svg or something? [22:51] nope [22:51] # gtk-update-icon-cache /usr/share/icons/hicolor [22:51] oh [22:52] still not there [22:52] aha, I think I might see the problem [22:52] but I'm going to have to rebuild pidgin to find out for sure [22:53] rworkman: you can do that faster than I can. :) [22:53] NaCl: Ok, I'm just upgrading my -current to get pidgin, and then I'll mess with it. [22:53] Long story short, have a look at /usr/share/pixmaps/pidgin/ dir -- you'll see some dir names that correspond with dir names in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/*/ [22:53] NaCl: I'll do it tonight for sure, but I have to finish something else first [22:54] Ok. I'm not going anywhere. [22:54] actually, shared-mime-info is the cause [22:54] update-mime-database ~/.local/share/mime/" [22:54] apparently /usr/sbin/adduser provokes a warning from rkhunter [22:55] It does [22:55] and chkrootkit complains about abiword, says its the epic rootkit [22:55] *it's [22:55] shame it doesn't do that about emacs ;) [22:56] haha [22:56] shared-mime-info 0.70 changed behavoir [22:56] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:56] thrice`: save me the googling - what's different? [22:57] thrice`: that did it [22:57] thanks [22:57] :_ [22:57] nice smile thrice` :P [22:57] lol [22:58] rworkman, I think the database format [22:58] .ext3 fsck.ext4dev fsck.minix fsck.xfs [22:58] it appears one of the abiword temp directories is named xp and that's enough to trigger chkrootkit [22:58] oh damn wtf [22:59] sorry [22:59] er, /tmp/SBo/abiword{blahblah} [23:02] jiraia_ (n=jiraia@201-41-121-237.cpece700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [23:03] haha "Warning: Hidden directory found: /dev/.udev" [23:04] wonder if I need to worry about that one ;P [23:05] Zoubidda1a (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) joined ##slackware. [23:05] fun to do: watch eject -T [23:05] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:05] haven't you suggested that before? [23:06] shut up, i'm hung over again [23:06] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.157.147) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:06] and playing werewolf, the forsaken [23:06] My friend used to have this program that would eject the cdrom tray and play a wave file of a raspberry [23:07] lol. [23:09] yeah, it was amusing to us then [23:09] I think we were 16 or 17 [23:09] :P [23:13] sarkoman (n=sakoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:14] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [23:14] sarkoman (n=sakoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [23:18] spar (i=spa@spa.m1rc.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:19] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:20] reroute (n=none@S0106001a70d5a722.wp.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] good evening everyone [23:22] hello gentlemen. [23:22] evening mfillpot [23:22] the testdisk fella's been gone for a while, that can't be too good [23:22] hitest (n=hitest@64.114.226.226) joined ##slackware. [23:22] I've become bored so I am scanning linux-next for all ms contributions [23:23] hehehe [23:23] mancha: no, he's been gone a while. I think he was running Ubuntu, n=Ubuntu. :P [23:23] mfillpot: you know C or asm? [23:23] thrice`: ah yes; thanks for the reminder :/ There was a mail about that on the kde-packager list, and my brain completely forgot it [23:23] spook: I knew C, but it's not hard to relearn [23:23] reroute (n=none@S0106001a70d5a722.wp.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:24] reroute (n=none@S0106001a70d5a722.wp.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:24] rworkman, I guess Pat did too; typically not-so-obvious brokenness is pointed out [23:24] mfillpot: help with linuxpmi.org #linuxpmi if you're bored. process migration. [23:24] I just found that no direct ms contributions have made it out of staging, so that is good [23:25] thrice`: yeah [23:26] spook: I don't quite understand what they are trying to do with linuxpmi [23:26] I may be old fashioned, but I can't trust a company or individual that lets so many remote code execution exploits out the door [23:26] mfillpot: heard of openmosix? [23:27] spook: no [23:28] mfillpot: basically, it allows you to migrate processes between systems. its clustering that doesnt require cluster-aware programming. [23:28] spook: so essentially smp over a network? [23:28] sarkoman (n=sakoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [23:28] mfillpot: uh, sort of. [23:29] all the I/O is done on the origin system. [23:29] reroute (n=none@S0106001a70d5a722.wp.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:29] spook: that is the best way for me to explain it, kernel based clustering that treats all cpus as a single multi-cpu, right? [23:29] reroute (n=none@S0106001a70d5a722.wp.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] sarkoman (n=sakoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [23:30] kind of. the migration can be manual or automated to load share. [23:30] spook: are you using it now, or are you a contirubutor? [23:31] mfillpot: the last working version was for the 2.4.26 kernel. i'm project leader of linuxpmi, the revival project of the old failed 2.6 forward port [23:32] spook: I am cloning it now, the only fallback I have for cooperation is that I don't have multiple system test it on [23:33] reroute (n=none@S0106001a70d5a722.wp.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:33] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.104.65) joined ##slackware. [23:33] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.104.65) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:33] spook: what is the proper url for cloning the git repo? [23:33] john_dee (n=id@93-81-68-207.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [23:34] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.104.65) joined ##slackware. [23:34] mfillpot: its not ready to be run on physical systems, migration doesnt work. i'm currently setting up a script to generate an initrd to use with qemu [23:34] mfillpot: its on the trac, linuxpmi.org [23:34] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:36] hitest (n=hitest@64.114.226.226) left irc: "Leaving" [23:36] spook: I have it now and am starting to review, I will try to help, but I can't make any promises [23:37] hello happy slackers [23:38] FDCX (i=0@188.25.147.43) joined ##slackware. [23:38] mfillpot: every little bit helps, theres only juri and me working on it actively, plus about 5 or so irregular helpers [23:38] mfillpot: #linuxpmi :) [23:38] greetings LnxSlck [23:38] reroute (n=none@S0106001a70d5a722.wp.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:38] hi fire|bird [23:39] LnxSlck: How are you? [23:39] fire|bird, very nice.. a bit tired [23:39] fire|bird, just screwed a girl a few moments ago [23:39] fire|bird, so pretty tired [23:39] tmi [23:40] y0 unixfool [23:40] hey [23:40] unixfool: How are you? (Do I dare ask this time?) :P [23:40] so so [23:41] trying to figure out why a miniUSB cable won't fit into a miniUSB port on my camera [23:41] harls (n=harls@pool-96-244-239-100.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:42] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:42] unixfool: The shape of the connector matches though? [23:42] welcome back hitest [23:42] yeah [23:42] odd [23:42] ty, fire|bird:) [23:42] hi unixfool [23:42] unixfool: is there anything blocking the port ? bread crumbs ? [23:42] hi hitest [23:42] :) [23:42] deco: seriously? :P [23:43] deco no, but i just now saw that the inside of both connectors don't seem to match up [23:43] fire|bird: i got bread crumbs everywhere you never know :P [23:43] unixfool: ah okk [23:43] hitest: I'm thinking of *maybe* giving OpenSolaris a shot on my laptop, just to have something to tinker with and learn more about. [23:44] fire|bird: the journey never ends.... [23:44] unixfool: there is mini and micro connectors [23:44] fire|bird: nice. never tried that one. I'll be curious to hear what you think of it. [23:45] XGizzmo: ahh [23:45] hitest: I've used it to some extent, I have it on a spare drive in the desktop, but having it on the laptop would make it a bit easier to use it more and tinker around. [23:45] my wife lost the one the camera came with :/ [23:45] figures [23:45] fire|bird: agreed [23:46] Gamestah|007`AFO (n=007@C-61-68-216-220.bri.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [23:46] hitest: It is really nice, it's not designed for a speedy boot, but once it starts, it's great. [23:46] cool [23:46] Gamestah|007`AFO (n=007@C-61-68-216-220.bri.connect.net.au) left ##slackware. [23:46] fire|bird: you mean like slackware ? [23:46] :P [23:46] unixfool: Could you just use a card reader and the card? [23:47] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.157.147) joined ##slackware. [23:47] deco: Slackware isn't that bad for boot times, plus, with not many changes, I had it down to 16 seconds. [23:47] yeah, my dell mini 9 has a built-in reader [23:48] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [23:48] fire|bird: been tooling around with arch on this test box, its okay. not as nice as slack tho. [23:48] unixfool: yeah, my laptop does too, but the card reader contacts are all tore up. It's a different case/mobo than it originally had, because the old mobo was shot. [23:49] hitest: definitely not as nice as slack! [23:49] true [23:49] hitest: I don't think anything is as nice as slack (of course that's just my opinion) BSD's are nice, as is osol, but nothing compares to slack. [23:49] hey neonflux [23:49] hi fire|bird [23:50] fire|bird; agreed. I always come home to slack. just finished updating my 4 slack boxes:) [23:50] deja vu o_O [23:51] sarkoman (n=sakoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:51] hitest: yeah, if I did put osol on the laptop, I'd probably end up coming back, but osol is something that'd be cool to learn more with. I do know, however, that it'd need ndiswrapper for wifi. :/ [23:51] sarkoman (n=sakoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [23:51] fire|bird: broadcom ? [23:52] yup [23:52] yeah i need that too for bsd.. [23:52] yeah, I've never had to use ndiswrapper for anything before. [23:52] fire|bird: very cool indeed to learn about. so osol is the free version of solaris. is it somewhat related to freebsd? [23:53] reroute (n=none@S0106001a70d5a722.wp.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:53] hitest: free version of solaris [23:53] mesaGL (n=mesaGL@unaffiliated/mesagl) left irc: [23:54] hitest: OpenSolaris is derived from the Unix System V [23:54] hitest: yeah, free version of solaris, it has a unix background, not sure about any freebsd relation. [23:54] deco: ah. ty:) [23:55] hitest: np , all from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_solaris :P [23:55] hitest: It uses zfs, can do liveupdates, when updates are done, it creates a new BE (boot environment) so that if something goes haywire, you can boot to an old environment, etc. [23:55] nice [23:55] So, certainly something cool to mess with. [23:55] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:55] fire|bird: yeah, I know freebsd, but, am not too familiar with other versions of Unix. tried netbsd for a bit. [23:56] It is on a 6 month release schedule too. [23:56] they hired debian's funder in 2007 [23:56] founder* [23:57] fire|bird: please post some screenshots later if you feel like it. [23:57] yup, Ian Murdock [23:57] hitest: sure thing. [23:57] awesome [23:57] hitest: it's just gnome really http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/OpenSolaris-screenshot-2009-06.png [23:57] deco: Their wallpapers aren't bad either. [23:58] fire|bird: yeah the theme and art is super nice [23:58] deco: click [23:58] Ugh, don't mention gnome, please. :P [23:58] anyway, bbiab. [23:58] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:58] k [23:59] xdoctor (n=avs@201.78.194.151) joined ##slackware. [23:59] Action: hitest wanders away to tuck in his 6 year old...be back later. [00:00] --- Sun Oct 18 2009