[00:00] Action: quasar stabs you all. [00:00] Action: jeev has a stab proof vest on [00:00] thank you [00:01] Wescotte: might have to use a nasty table? :-( [00:01] fhobia: dunno what that means.. [00:02] antiwire: getting the same thing. IEEE 802.1X: Supplicant used different EAP type: 3 (Nak) [00:03] chopp: You might consider using the CA.pl in a fresh directory so you can make a new test CA and some clean certs that match [00:04] Wescotte: two cells in one row but one cell is left justified and one cell is right justified ? [00:05] fhobia: not using calc.. still called a cell? anyway yeah that's what I want to do [00:05] Action: hitest breaks wind in quasar's direction [00:06] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "peace" [00:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@96.250.220.91) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [00:07] Wescotte: i wasn't saying use calc, i meant like create a table in writer [00:07] fhobia: ah.. never done that before.. [00:08] epaphus (n=unix3@201.199.62.74) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:09] fhobia: okay, inserted a table w/o boarders seems to work. Thanks! [00:10] Wescotte: sweet :-D [00:10] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [00:11] antiwire: does your hostapd.eap_user line look like this: "x41@casebliss" TLS and hostapd.radius_clients: 10.0.0.1/5 secretpasshere ? [00:11] chopp: I cheated: * TLS [00:11] that's for the eap_user [00:12] and for radius_clients: 0.0.0.0/0 passwordhere [00:12] ok it has to be my certs I guess. [00:16] any recommendations on encrypting something and backing it up to maybe amazon ec2 or something?.. what is in nowadays? pgp ? [00:16] heh pgp, olddddd [00:17] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. [00:17] chopp: The problem I had with my certs, initially, was that I had used one naming scheme for the CA's cert and a different naming scheme for the client and server certs. [00:17] After I fixed the default .cnf and rebuilt the CA and created new server and client certs it worked [00:20] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [00:21] the only thing I did different this time was combine my key and certs, maybe thats the problem. [00:24] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:24] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) joined ##slackware. [00:29] psyklops (n=user@64-195-119-27.dtb.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:31] slack 13.0 doesnt appear to come with mod_python. any thoughts? [00:32] disregard that, i suck cocks [00:32] noted. [00:32] ook.. [00:32] slackbuilds.org hurp durp [00:32] Action: Dominian marks spook of the "Straight Guys" convention list [00:32] does no one get the bash.org reference? [00:32] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:33] probably not [00:33] http://bash.org/?5775 [00:34] psyklops (n=user@64-195-119-27.dtb.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [00:34] Now with more wifi [00:35] manually configured though, had to bring up wpa_supplicant myself [00:36] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: "Leaving" [00:38] psyklops: use wicd. [00:38] theres wicd-curses :P [00:38] slacks (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: Client Quit [00:38] I'd like to do it the way I've always done it [00:38] spook is a closet ubuntuist [00:39] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [00:39] psyklops: fair enough. [00:39] antiwire: what? [00:39] I didn't hear anything. Must have been the wind [00:39] Previously, wpa_supplicant was run by init as a daemon, it would autoconnect to open networks and check for places I added if it couldn't [00:39] all that's missing is.. How does Slackware go about running wpa_supplicant at boot? [00:40] maybe /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 [00:41] looking at inet1.conf [00:41] yeah which is what inet1 uses [00:42] Do I need "KEEPRESOLV" for it to take DNS servers from DHCP? [00:43] oh, the opposite [00:43] YES means to ignore it and keep my own [00:43] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427638.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [00:43] :) [00:45] I'll find out tomorrow if this worked... don't feel like rebooting tonight [00:45] you don't need to reboot just to change network settings [00:46] psyklops: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart [00:46] /etc.rc.d/rc.inet1 interfacenamehere_restart [00:46] I'd need to reboot to see if this works on boot [00:46] **/etc/rc.d** [00:46] antiwire: /etc.rc.d/rc.inet1 invoked, rm'ing / [00:47] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:47] ... [00:47] :P [00:53] streke (n=saire@unaffiliated/romani) joined ##slackware. [00:53] streke (n=saire@unaffiliated/romani) left ##slackware. [00:56] KingBeowulf (n=KingBeow@12.173.188.91) left irc: "Leaving" [00:58] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [00:59] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [01:03] This install will be fubar'd within the week... [01:03] what's with installpkg being picky about the file name? [01:03] I have downloaded slackware packages ending in tar.gz instead of tgz [01:03] /(BB|[^b]{2})/ [01:03] it refuses to recognize the similarity [01:04] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [01:04] psyklops: there are no slackware packages in tar.gz [01:05] its either tgz (12.2 and below) or txz (13.0) however, 13.0 still has a few .tgz packages.. like 6 [01:05] murmlos (i=mrmlz@hhcrew.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:05] murmlos (i=mrmlz@hhcrew.net) joined ##slackware. [01:06] k... these were tar.gz until renamed for the installer's sake [01:06] That.. won't matter [01:06] o.o [01:06] slackbook ! [01:08] They are slackware packages, they installed [01:08] they were just not named tgz [01:08] psyklops: I'm telling you right now tar.gz packages are NOT slackware packages [01:08] psyklops: tar.gz files are called 'tarballs' .. usually of source code.. installpkg/upgradepkg/etc doesn't understand what to do with them and thusly, renaming them wont change the behaviour [01:08] psyklops: where'd you get the packages/ [01:08] xmonad [01:08] Where'd you get the packages? [01:08] xmonad developer put them up [01:08] That tells me nothing [01:08] Where'd you get them? [01:09] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:09] ... from the xmonad homepage [01:09] Action: Dominian spells it out [01:09] Where's the LINK to it then? [01:09] I googled "xmonad slackware" and poof [01:09] :) [01:09] Action: quasar doesn't see any .tar.gz files under "Slackware" [01:09] probably http://code.haskell.org/~arossato/xmonad-slack/ [01:09] I am on a pty right now, copy pasting you a link would be challenging [01:09] eh [01:09] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [01:09] no window manager yet [01:09] psyklops: those are from 2007 [01:09] ... fack [01:09] and you're on 13.0? [01:09] but they are horribly outdated and unmaintained. use the scripts from slackbuilds.org [01:10] ohhhh... there we go [01:10] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "if you set fire to the wall is it a firewall :o" [01:10] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/desktop/xmonad/ [01:10] a lot of info I'm finding is.. outdated and unmaintained [01:11] see sahko's link [01:12] also slackbuilds.org doesnt host packages. these are build scripts. or repacking ones in the case of ghc [01:12] I'll need to get ghc first? [01:13] ghc is a haskell compiler [01:13] wth is this: linux-next: next-20090916 2009-09-16 [01:13] that's new since the last time I saw kernel.org [01:13] Dominian: i asked the exact same question a week ago or so :) [01:13] interesting.. the -mm kernels etc are gone [01:13] its kernel-git-git or something [01:14] Yeah.. I'll need that.. and then other libraries that xmonad would like [01:14] yep [01:14] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:14] sahko: looks like the latest git "push" to the repo [01:14] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:14] yeah even more extreme than kernel-git [01:15] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:18] vsftp or proftp? [01:19] Action: Dominian uses vsftpd [01:19] if I ever do ftp that is [01:20] grr... ghc requires libedit, the libedit source link is down [01:21] is slackbuild really much better than just compiling for myself? [01:21] slackbuild compiles the source, so it's the same [01:21] No additional management of it? [01:22] like with arch's tools [01:22] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:24] its better than compiling yourself, unless you usually make your own packages when you compile stuff.. it makes a nifty .t(g|x)z that you can install/upgrade/remove using pkgtools [01:25] I've never used arch's tools, so I dont know what kind of management you're talking about [01:26] Well, on Arch there is a package building system just like this, but the script will automatically download the source tarball and dependencies, make binary packages for you, and put it into the package management system for your convenience [01:26] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [01:27] Do I have to keep that tgz on hand if I want to remove the package? [01:27] no, Slackware assumes the user is smart enough to download source and any dependencies needed (though I have seen some older slackbuilds that do download source) [01:27] nope [01:27] It's not an issue of "smart enough" it's just wasted time IMO [01:28] all a .SlackBuild does it build a package out of sources using sane configure time options along with a description of the package contents and the occasional script for fixing symlinks [01:29] if you think it is wasted time you can use whichever distribution makes you feel like less of a time waster. [01:29] connection speed isn't determined by whether or not time is wasted [01:29] takes the same amount of time to download either way :) [01:29] The time wasted is in searching for each individual package, and reading each README [01:30] I'm currently trying THIS distribution, I will not be going back so easily until I've given Slackware a chance [01:30] so why are you doing something which you feel wastes your time? [01:31] Because it seems to be the only way here [01:31] well, you're starting off on a bad foot by thinking that it should automatically do something for you.. [01:31] Right.. [01:32] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [01:32] It did one thing for me... the install DVD had an initial set of binary packages to bootstrap from [01:32] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-44-91.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:32] that's not in the context of which we're speaking, either [01:32] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:33] someone also wrote the source code for the compiler....oh and the assembler too... [01:34] It seems like slackpkg doesnt install patches [01:34] Does it? I just updated the mirror, did a "slackpkg search firefox" adn didn't see 3.5.3 [01:34] it does for me [01:34] Which mirror are you using? [01:34] i'm using purdue [01:34] osuosl [01:35] Action: Motoko-chan uses TDS [01:36] redtricycle, search only finds packages themselves. [01:36] Try upgrade [01:37] I see it now, using osuosl [01:37] Guess not all mirrors are that up to date [01:38] Some are a bit behind at times. [01:38] giuppy (n=giuppy@host145-162-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:39] The ones with bigger connections seem to be updated first. [01:39] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:40] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:41] redtricycle: i just ran slackpkg,got ffox 3.5.3 earlier [01:42] using tds also iirc [01:43] During installation, I noticed a lot of KDE specific libraries being installed from /l/. I'd like to remove those but I don't know them all by name. Is there something where I can see the package name and a short description and have it be removed at my discretion? [01:43] psyklops: pkgtool [01:44] indeed [01:46] awright... its ze wango ze tango ! [01:46] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) left irc: "Changing server" [01:47] mingdao (n=mingdao@116.53.168.126) joined ##slackware. [01:48] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) joined ##slackware. [01:49] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [01:49] Hello! [01:49] Nick change: shik4nt4z4 -> m4lik [01:49] xorg.conf renamed to xorg.conf-vesa? [01:49] is that right?.. [01:49] There [01:50] There's no xorg.conf in /etc/X11 [01:50] redtricycle: If you need custom xorg.conf then rename it to xorg-config and edit it. [01:50] I mean corg-conf [01:50] I mean xorg-conf [01:50] Fuck! xorg.conf [01:50] lol [01:51] Sorry! :-) [01:51] Okay, brb, let me check it out [01:53] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:54] I'm confused...if I *dont* have an xorg.conf [01:54] What is startx using? [01:55] xorg.conf-vesa apparrently [01:55] no [01:55] no, it's not [01:55] it is using what hal detected [01:56] oh [01:56] pkgtool doesnt "marry" pkgname with pkg descr [01:56] i copied mine over from 12.2 cause i had to edi,add fonts paths [01:56] edi/edit [01:57] psyklops but if you want to rm kdei packages, removepkg kdei* will do it. [01:57] Quiznos: the view option in pkgtool certainly does list the package name description [01:57] name and description [01:57] antiwire ea but it's not helpful to selection [01:57] sad [01:57] ea/yea [01:57] Hal detected my touchpad [01:57] but didnt bother to give my the synaptics driver [01:57] the remove option does the same... [01:57] mingdao (n=mingdao@116.53.168.126) left ##slackware. [01:58] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578BC4.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:58] heya [01:58] hola [01:58] redtricycle: you can either apply what the documentation says to do with fdi files to the synaptics driver or you can create an xorg.conf yourself. [01:58] I tried changing my keyboad in xorg.conf to dvorak, but kdm insists on using qwerty. [01:59] Anyone got this problem with another keyboard layout? [01:59] fix kdm's conf files [02:00] 'loadkeys dvorak' shows "Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console" [02:00] mingdao (n=mingdao@116.53.168.126) joined ##slackware. [02:00] Quiznos, where are those? [02:01] redtricycle: rworkman has a libsynaptics pkg iirc [02:01] ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT [02:01] ... [02:01] Ah...is that so [02:01] my touchpad works [02:01] it just doesnt click [02:01] tap-to-click [02:01] because you need to set the options. [02:02] Ah.. [02:02] From Changes and hints: "If you are using input hotplugging via HAL and a synaptics touchpad, then you might need to copy /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/11-x11-synaptics.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ and edit it to suit your needs. You can also use synclient(1) to make changes "on the fly." [02:02] read that whole document [02:02] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:02] and there is a typo in there, btw [02:03] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70.41.16.81) joined ##slackware. [02:03] you get to figure it out [02:03] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:03] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:04] Oh...cool [02:04] thanks antiwire [02:08] Buggaboo etc/X11/...? [02:08] I love playing poker... I bluff, bluff, bluff.. then show my nuts. [02:09] s/my/the/ [02:10] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [02:11] Oh riiight [02:11] I need to restart hal [02:13] I've ridden ~55mi this week [02:13] wow nice [02:13] I want to do 55mi in one day [02:14] cool [02:15] slackytude (n=icke@79.216.162.250) joined ##slackware. [02:15] mingdao (n=mingdao@116.53.168.126) left irc: "leaving" [02:16] morning [02:16] morning slackytude [02:16] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:16] jhw (n=jhw@84.143.87.163) joined ##slackware. [02:16] redtricy1le (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-44-91.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:16] welcome to the land of the semi living and partially dead. [02:16] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-44-91.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:16] slackytu1e (n=icke@p4FD8A2FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:17] Well, partially dead would be Quiznos :P [02:17] oh wait, that'd be partially brain dead maybe? :P [02:17] hi fire|bird [02:17] y0 fire|bird , antiwire [02:17] hello slackytu1e [02:17] hey Reticenti [02:17] slackytude: How's it going? [02:18] fire|bird: oh, all fine, Id say. you? [02:18] actually I have an odd issue [02:18] doing great, thanks. [02:18] when my machine comes back from hibernation, my resolv.conf keeps missing the domain line [02:18] i have an odd problem, but i'll wait untill tomorrow to diagnose it [02:19] that means i went a whole day without asking a question in here [02:19] toastyto1st (n=toast@74.75.199.104) joined ##slackware. [02:19] WHOA, better mark that on the calendar Reticenti [02:19] slackyude does dhcpcd rewrite resolv.conf? [02:19] i know, fire|bird, my diary of linux questions is empty for today :( [02:20] tell it not to rewrite [02:20] omfgbbqsauce [02:20] plz [02:20] ok [02:20] Reticenti: that's just unbelievable. [02:20] acidchild: only got tartar, take a hike! [02:20] mother fscker [02:20] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:21] oh wit [02:21] wait* [02:21] i actually did ask a question [02:21] i asked how i can clear a directory of everything [02:21] so enver mind fire|bird [02:21] never* [02:21] willca (n=quassel@67.171.42.234) joined ##slackware. [02:21] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-eczblyrrotayrknq) joined ##slackware. [02:21] Reticenti: AH HA, I knew it. :P [02:21] find -type f -delete [02:21] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [02:22] Nick change: toastyto1st -> toastytoast [02:22] Quiznos: we decided rm -rf / was the best method [02:22] hardly [02:22] you can do it by cd'ing into the directory and using rm or you can do it by specing the path to the directory *and* the contents of the directory using * [02:22] hi...just wondering if anybody here has had bad wifi with dell inspiron 15n running slack13 [02:22] cd /path/directory && rm -rf * or rm -rf /path/directory/* [02:22] Quiznos: I told it not to overwrite [02:23] ok [02:23] bug [02:23] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427638.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:23] with either of the commands I posted, be very careful. [02:23] DHCP_KEEPRESOLV[0]="yes" [02:23] once misplaced / or * will screw you over. [02:24] once/one [02:24] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.9.220) joined ##slackware. [02:24] psyklops (n=user@64-195-119-27.dtb.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:24] its very odd [02:24] why would it get overwritten [02:24] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:25] slackytude: does dhcpcd show any changes in /etc/dhcpc/* [02:25] well you said "hibernat"; i'm thinking an openfile that needs to be reestablished (reopened?) [02:25] see if dhcpcd is updating those files after resume. [02:27] slackytude: if it is, you can try adding a dhcpcd command for your interface after the hibernate command in your acpi action script. [02:27] antiwire: timestamps are from yesterday [02:27] anything after the hib command will be run when the system resumes. [02:27] antiwire: I could yes [02:27] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [02:28] but I think I may have added the line in rc.inet1.config and didnt reboot since then. I guess it hasnt been picked up yet [02:29] cos the KEEPRRESOLV stuff isnt in the /etc/dhcpcd dir [02:29] force rc.inet1 to rerun [02:30] just did [02:30] hi...just wondering if anybody here has had bad wifi with dell inspiron 15n running slack13 [02:30] bump [02:30] hm. that's nice, mplayer has been added. finally. [02:30] willca: I have a D620 and no. Also, it would help you much more if you asked about the specific wifi chipset instead of a whole laptop model. [02:31] antiwire ... sorry...very specific, there is only one model out like this [02:31] well we don't know what that model means so tell us the wifi chipset. [02:31] not sure if that worked [02:31] we shall see tomorrow I guess [02:31] anyway is for 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01) [02:31] thx [02:32] mplayer: [VO_SDL] SDL initialization failed: No available video device. [02:32] wondering if someone has the same exact model out there [02:32] man, I hate upgrading. [02:32] basically wifi drops all connections and then restores after 2 minutes or so [02:33] good luck with everything guys. I figured out how to change the keyboard layout, read the fdi part in the changes_and_hints.txt [02:33] bye [02:33] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578BC4.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:35] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:35] inman (n=aligp@p579B4E89.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [02:36] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [02:36] redtricy1le (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-44-91.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:37] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-44-91.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:37] bleh [02:37] blah [02:38] I'm trying to use synclient to tweak synaptics, and the MaxTapTime variable doesnt seem to affect the tap-to-click-feature [02:38] Wurm (n=celestia@75.97.224.176.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [02:38] Any ideas, guys? [02:38] Where is libglx.so supposed to be? [02:39] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-10-17.w90-34.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:39] redtricycle: do you have TapButton1 set? [02:39] I used synclient TapButton1=1 [02:39] and it didn't register [02:40] And, yes, my SHM is enabled [02:40] Okay, it works now [02:40] o_o [02:40] Any idea where libglx.so is supposed to be? [02:40] MaxTapTime was set too slow [02:40] low* [02:40] redtricycle: use synclient -s -l [02:40] you want to operate on the live settings, -s should do that [02:41] ah, coolies [02:41] uh oh [02:41] my mouse just disappeared o_o [02:41] okay, it's back [02:41] Oh man! [02:41] Tap to click is back [02:41] Wurm (n=celestia@75.97.224.176.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left ##slackware. [02:41] Thanks antiwire! [02:41] np [02:41] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [02:42] I almost rationalized "i dont need tap-to-click" instead of figuring it out [02:42] phew. [02:42] that wouldn't be rational now would it [02:42] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Client Quit [02:43] VertTwoFingerScroll doesn't scroll for me...does that just mean my touchpad cant detect it? [02:43] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [02:43] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [02:44] I'm pretty sure two finger scroll is hardware dependent [02:44] not all touchpads are multi-point. [02:44] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) left irc: Client Quit [02:44] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [02:44] my laptop does twofinger scroll without any X options (i'm it would be worth while spending time to work out what it can do in linux) [02:45] Ah...that would've been cool. Got tricked into thinking it was a software thing this whole time and that I've been missing out. [02:45] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Client Quit [02:46] awe ;< [02:46] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [02:46] seems most new laptops will though [02:46] mine does too cool [02:46] But I found out something cool today [02:47] the touchpad can detect a touch [02:47] without physically touching it [02:47] if your finger is close enough [02:47] it'll register [02:47] :) [02:47] That's kind of crazy [02:48] how is two finger scrolling supposed to work? I don't even know the physical motion for that [02:49] put two fingers together [02:49] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-249.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:49] ya, that's how Mac's do it [02:49] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [02:49] but you can twist picturs around [02:49] zoom in and out etc. [02:49] supposed to be able to zoom in/increase size of window and reverse [02:49] yep [02:50] okay, i'm off to bed [02:50] 'night al [02:51] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [02:54] How do I do an if check on if a computer on my network exists? To rephrase, can a ping command return True/False? [02:55] that's pretty much what it does [02:56] I wish I could get an invite to torrentech [02:56] Oh. [02:56] Wurm (n=celestia@75.97.224.176.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [02:56] What version of Xorg does Slackware 13 come with? [02:57] redtricycle: in a bash script, check for $?=0 for ping good, $?=1 for ping bad [02:57] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [02:57] Wurm: the latest, with xorg-server 1.6.1 [02:58] i dont know which version it is and quite frankly it doesnt make any sense now that X is modular.. [02:58] ex: ping -c 1 -W 3 192.168.0.1 && echo "Network up" || echo "Network down" [02:59] sorry - try: ping -c 1 -W 3 192.168.0.1 >/dev/null 2>&1 && echo "Network up" || echo "Network down" [02:59] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [02:59] where 192.168.0.1 is your local router IP [03:01] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.9.220) left irc: "Leaving" [03:04] hey guys, I'm trying to install the ati proprietary driver for slackware 13 and this is the error I am getting [03:04] default:v2:i686:lib::none:2.6.29.6-smp; make sure that the version is being correctly set by --iscurrentdistro [03:04] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [03:04] what can I do to get it to install? [03:05] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [03:05] set --iscurrentdistro [03:05] ? [03:05] lol [03:06] acidchild no way to do so [03:06] we tried [03:06] you tried ./installer --iscurrentdistro ? [03:06] or ./installer --help? [03:06] or man installer? [03:06] or less README.txt? [03:07] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [03:07] acidchild: all of the above [03:07] time to bust out strace and ln :D [03:08] cat error-message > linuxquestions.org [03:08] Wurm, what ati card? [03:09] card doesnt matter, he's having kernel/driver compatability issues. [03:09] do you have kernel source installed? [03:09] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [03:09] Yes kernel source is installed by default [03:09] whats the output of ./installer -help? [03:09] and on the site it says the kernel source isn't required as long as you have the kernel headers [03:10] nothing pertaining to --iscurrentdistro [03:10] i'll pastebin if you like [03:11] chmod a+x ./ati-driver-installer-8-10-x86.x86_64.run [03:11] Wurm: ^^ [03:11] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: "No Ping reply in 90 seconds." [03:11] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=970059 [03:11] night all [03:11] http://pastebin.org/18439 [03:11] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Pekwm! it ain't your grandma's wm :)"). [03:11] hello guys, I kinda forget the nmblookup, but how can i use nmblookup to query for the clients in a node? [03:12] read the forum link Wurm [03:12] see if the versions are the same that ubuntu is having issues with [03:13] That driver is not compatible with the version of X-org installed in Ubunut 8.10. Until AMD/ATI updates the driver to work with X-org 7.4 you are SOL. [03:13] I know, I saw. But heres our issue [03:14] The driver is too old to stupport the new version of x [03:14] and the new driver doesn't support out card! [03:14] Depending on teh GPU we're talking about, they won't be updating the driver [03:14] The legacy driver won't install, and the latest, 9.9, won't see the card [03:14] the card in question is the xpress 1250 [03:14] acidchild, see, card does matter. [03:14] The open source radeon driver should work with that [03:15] no it doesn't! [03:15] Wurm, use open source driver. [03:15] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) left irc: "leaving" [03:15] LSD`: we are trying but we cant get GLX to work with radeon [03:15] mingdao (n=mingdao@116.53.168.126) joined ##slackware. [03:15] glxgears gives us this with radeon [03:15] GLUT: Fatal Error in glxgears: OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display: :0 [03:17] acidchild: ATI dropped support for everything prior to the HD (2000, 3000 and 4000) Radeons at about the 9.3 drivers (on both Windows and Linux). It's a bigger deal on Linux than Windows because the latter doesn't break the driver ABI every other week. For X1000 or below GPUs, the best long-term option is the open source driver. [03:17] i see, for this kinda shiz i stayed away from nvidia [03:17] ATI* and went with nvidia [03:17] LSD`, you lie! [03:18] Action: acidchild isn't much of a gamer [03:18] acidchild: nVidia do the same thing [03:18] i have a GeForce 8600 GT [03:18] seems to work alrite.. [03:18] LSD`, but they maintain the legacy drivers some. [03:18] but i dunno shit about this stuff [03:18] byteframe: they hardly give a crap about them though [03:19] Wurm (n=celestia@75.97.224.176.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left ##slackware. [03:19] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [03:19] LSD`, I'll bet. After years of using the nvidia driver, I'm quit jaded. [03:20] I wont switch over to ati until i can live with the radeon driver. [03:20] Wurm (n=celestia@75.97.224.176.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [03:20] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [03:20] alrighty one last question guys [03:20] ctrl-alt-delete ^^ [03:20] which open source driver should I go with? radeon, radeonhd or ati? [03:21] Wurm, radeon [03:21] One of my other systems had a GF2MX in it that, while not that great, did everything I needed of it. I got so fed up waiting for an update to the legacy driver (and update for something that shouldn't really be nvidias problem IMO) that I dug a 9200 Radeon out of another system and threw that in instead [03:21] byteframe: alrighty thanks [03:21] last I heard, radeonhd was being deprecated for radeon [03:21] alisonken1noc, seems that way. [03:21] alisonken1noc: awesome, thats good to know [03:21] thanks [03:21] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: "No Ping reply in 90 seconds." 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[03:29] bnhashmi (n=bnhashmi@202.174.145.186) left irc: Client Quit [03:29] it's kinda fun having friends tell me about amazing linux things [03:29] my friend just found out about tab completion in bash and is amazed [03:30] he promptly told me [03:30] hah [03:31] kool [03:32] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [03:33] you better get him to rm -fr / quick before he fiqures it out.\ [03:33] lol [03:34] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.31) joined ##slackware. [03:34] he's sshed into the uni's computers, and he doesnt have sudo powers [03:34] so nothing would happen [03:34] well [03:34] i could be a jerk and tell him to rm -rf ~ [03:34] lol [03:34] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-44-91.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:35] but i wont because i'm not that mean, and the homework is due tomorrow [03:35] oh, i wonder if the schools linux machines are protected against fork bombs [03:36] Nick change: jigp_ -> jigpe [03:39] hey, comcast question; does the filter on the pole that connects to the wire to my house exclude non-net-signals? [03:40] i mean, the splitter for wire to modem is net to tv; so does that mean the router also "sees" the tv channel signals too? [03:40] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [03:40] net/next/ [03:42] has anyone else got a multi port network card in their box? [03:43] Wurm (n=celestia@75.97.224.176.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [03:43] a couple of thousand - but we're running debian derivatives here [03:43] Where is libglx.so supposed to be? [03:44] acidchild: ^^ [03:44] I have a libglx.la... [03:44] Quiznos: it shouldn't, there should be a high-pass filter for the modem cable somewhere inline [03:44] can i see a lspci -vv of one? [03:44] jigpe (n=glitch@securabit/listener/jigp) left irc: "leaving" [03:44] /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions or thereabouts [03:44] alisonken1noc: do yours come up as diffrent eth?'s? [03:44] does anyone know why ssh would refuse connections from other computers within the LAN? [03:45] iptables is off [03:45] acidchild: yep [03:45] let me get you that lspci [03:45] mancha: is libglx.la the samething? [03:45] mine is one interface... i've seen some stuff regarding patching the driver to make them show up [03:45] it is configures by someone who don't understand it? [03:45] wait nevermind, ssh is working now on the LAN... :/ [03:45] yarvin (n=yarvin@105-200-58-66.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [03:45] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:45] .so is a shared library [03:45] mancha: and .la is? [03:45] alisonken1noc: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/1n3gCS72.html [03:46] thats what mine shows up as. [03:46] SiegeX according to comcast's "tv schedule" channel, data is on ca. chan 79 [03:46] is not [03:46] okay [03:47] mancha: so I'm missing libglx.so, what package does it belong to so I may replace it? [03:47] acidchild: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/T6EC9h42.html [03:47] id have to look at the DOCSIS 3 spec [03:47] yaahhh [03:47] i dunno.. :< [03:47] part of base X [03:48] mancha: base x are what packages? everything that has "xorg" in it? [03:49] Wurm: http://packages.slackware.it/search.php?v=current&t=2&q=libglx [03:49] Rejf (i=rejf@blowfish.pl) joined ##slackware. [03:49] sahko: you are the man [03:49] dang - the bbc website for thunderbirds (supermarionation tv series) does NOT include TB3 in their picture gallery of desktop backgrounds [03:49] thank you so much guys [03:49] use it on your own from now on please:) [03:50] alisonken1noc: nerd [03:50] ;p [03:50] :) [03:50] known as classic childhood tv series [03:50] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:50] just as good as bugs bunny [03:50] Wurm, xorg-server [03:51] bugs bunny was retarded [03:51] in some cases better than bugs bunny because of the tech involved [03:51] bugs bunny was fun diversions :) [03:51] thunderbirds are go? [03:51] anybody tried haiku? [03:51] acidchild: that [03:52] 's the latest movie to reestablish them [03:52] :P [03:52] thunderbird 6 was cute if I remember it correctly [03:52] brains blimp ship [03:53] i know some haiku [03:53] but i like slackware better [03:53] I like *nix stable [03:53] slackytude [03:53] :) [03:53] I loved BeOs back in the days [03:53] wth does "i know some haiku" mean? [03:54] I like some haiku [03:54] but i like slackware better [03:54] i like *nix stable [03:54] that better? [03:55] not really.. but whatever [03:55] :( [03:55] :P [03:56] http://beta.ass.orgtfo.org/ NSFW [03:56] damn this site is awesome timewaster [03:56] well, i'm going to go cut myself now because you didnt like my haiku [03:56] acidchild: tvtropes is probably more of a time waster :| [03:56] space:1999 was another good series from my younger days [03:56] obnauticus (n=l@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [03:57] alisonken1noc: oy! [03:57] alisonken1noc: I loved that series [03:57] welp [03:57] nn [03:58] I started watching after martin landau and his wife moved to moon base alpha after mission: impossible [03:58] on the heels of msft giving best buy taking points where they say linux doesn't guarantee security patches, they announce no tcp/ip patches for xp or earlier [03:58] heh [03:59] loved the eagle in it [03:59] heh, #79 cannot be unseen [03:59] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[04:09] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [04:09] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [04:09] ok - bbc gallery has TB3 launching up through tracy's home. but I wanted TB3 in flight like TB1 [04:10] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-88-36.ip38.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "leaving" [04:10] wertik_rus (i=500@89-178-156-71.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:14] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.68) left irc: "Leaving" [04:15] http://beta.ass.orgtfo.org/292/ FTW -- NSFW [04:15] i better stop posting this stuff or i'll get banned by the evil ones [04:15] :) [04:15] hrad (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-qlrtueumfpuinueq) joined ##slackware. [04:17] spvensko (n=spvensko@rrcs-24-199-144-166.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:18] mingdao (n=mingdao@116.53.168.126) joined ##slackware. [04:19] hrad (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-qlrtueumfpuinueq) left irc: Client Quit [04:19] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) left ##slackware. [04:19] oh noes! [04:19] a NSFW link! [04:20] seems i'm a terrible person [04:21] _dieter_ (n=_dieter_@p54BEE6FA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:21] hrad (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-smvtmlyefhkbxkmv) joined ##slackware. [04:23] matt0 (n=matt0@110-175-94-24.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [04:25] willca (n=quassel@67.171.42.234) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:27] _dieter_ (n=_dieter_@p54BEE6FA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" [04:28] hi, I installed dualboot with 2 slackwares, the second one has overwritten lilo, but now whatever change I make to lilo.conf on the newer slackware, it remains the same [04:28] run lilo as root [04:28] After you edit lilo.conf [04:29] is it something new ? [04:29] ouch [04:29] I don't think so [04:30] cause I have never done this before to change it [04:30] http://i26.tinypic.com/a3lgew.jpg [04:30] hrad: lilo uses the lilo.conf file from whatever /etc/ is mounted as root [04:30] Action: matt0 shrugs, I had to last time I edited lilo.conf [04:30] hrad (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-smvtmlyefhkbxkmv) left irc: "Page closed" [04:31] hrad: grub reads its config - lilo has always had to be run to install with the changed config file [04:31] SiegeX: i laughed [04:31] the other option is to make /boot the first partition on the drive, and make it big enough to also hold lilo.conf, just use a symlink from /etc/lilo.conf to /boot/lilo.conf [04:32] that way the same file is used for both slack versions [04:32] 'lilo -t -v' to see what it's going to do (-v 5 for some real fun), then 'lilo' [04:32] "real fun" is right :) [04:32] \o/ [04:33] He quit if you didn't realise [04:33] is there anything that makes slackware unique and suitable for usage besides its lack of package management [04:33] alisonken1noc: nice setup with lilo in /boot, I like [04:33] missed - doh [04:33] sure nuff - oh well [04:33] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [04:33] left between 'tab' and 'enter' [04:34] yep :) [04:39] hrad (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-nxwdgflppadinhrg) joined ##slackware. [04:40] ak, what complications [04:43] matt0: and the location of vmlinuz must be set according to fstab ? cause if I do it like this http://pastebin.com/d6cf13686 ... it boots everytime from the partition with nerwe linux [04:43] *newer [04:43] hrad: vmilnuz (or whatever name the kernel file is being used) is what you put in lilo.conf [04:44] yes, but look at the pasted bin [04:45] this boots up the newer linux everytime [04:45] although I tell it to load /boot/vmlinuz from /sda5 not /sda1 [04:45] ex: my lilo.conf uses "image = /boot/vmlinuz" which has /boot on a separate partition (first partition) and is a symlink "vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-huge-2.6.27.7" [04:46] +1 for symlink. is this default now? [04:46] for ages [04:46] and what would you say that boots up according to the config of mine [04:46] http://pastebin.com/d6cf13686 [04:46] if your older kernel is inaccessible to your current system, try mounting it and editing lilo.conf to point to /mnt/boot/vmlinuz and run lilo [04:47] or just bind mount proc and chroot [04:47] john_dee (n=id@89.179.30.140) joined ##slackware. [04:47] slakmagik: the older kernel is accessible on /sda5 and I run lilo [04:47] hrad: your sda5 is mounted as /RC, so it's going to look for /boot/vmlinuz from sda1 [04:47] sda5 isn't accessible if it isn't mounted to the current fs [04:47] and lilo can see it [04:48] so /RC/boot/vmlinuz ? [04:48] slakmagik: it is mounted [04:48] but your lilo.conf isn't pointing to it [04:48] i need a bigger cpu [04:48] hrad: /boot/vmlinuz in both image sections is on sda1 [04:48] the air that comes out of my computer always freezers my feet ;< [04:49] that's why I make /boot a separate partition and put _all_ kernels/initrd's in /boot so it's consistent [04:49] me too.. except i have no initrds cos i RULE! :) [04:49] alisonken1noc: ok, I think I get it now [04:49] hrad: you can also make "image = /boot/vmlinuz-huge-2.6.27.7" [04:50] only having one slack installed per box is the ultimate consistency [04:50] it doesn't have to be vmlinuz - that's just a default name. [04:50] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:50] I then modify my /etc/rc.d/rc.S file to create symlinks for System.map, config, and vmlinuz to the currently running kernel [04:52] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:52] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [04:53] alisonken1noc: and do you think that it is enough to point it to the real file instead of symlink ? if there are other symlinks like system.map and config [04:54] hrad: config and System.map are supposed to be the currently running kernel - otherwise debugging get's to be 'interesting' :) [04:54] that's why it's best to use symlinks for those files - you can then change the symlink to the currently running kernel files for debugging purposes [04:55] so I'm good to go like this :) [04:55] spvensko (n=spvensko@rrcs-24-199-144-166.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left ##slackware. [04:55] alisonken1noc: what exactly do you edit in rc.S? [04:56] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) joined ##slackware. [04:56] SiegeX: if you add 'addappend=generic-2.6.27.7 [04:58] SiegeX: wait - I don't have it on this system yet, but I'll post an example shortly [04:59] hrad (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-nxwdgflppadinhrg) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [05:00] SiegeX: basically, it's just a spot after all partitions are mounted that you have a test for the specific file, then symlink to the current system [05:01] hrad (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-kxcwkhsjrxkrmqzx) joined ##slackware. [05:03] if you have vmlinuz, System.map, and config files appended with the appropriate information (i.e.: System.map-generic-2.6.27.7, config-generic-2.6.27.7, vmlinuz-2.6.27.7), then just add "$( cd /boot ; for i in System.map config vmlinuz; do ln -fs ${i}-generic-2.6.27.7 $i ; done)" after /boot is mounted [05:03] alisonken1noc: but the simple solution as you said, if I point it to the real files, this system can't see the older one cause it is in /RC/ [05:03] http://pastebin.com/d7b2c5a90 [05:03] I would have to point it to /RC/boot/vmlinuz-huge-smp-2.6.29.5-smp [05:04] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [05:04] hrad: you can also make a directory /boot/RC to put those files in as well - just remember the only files that have to be there are the kernel, the initrd, possibly the System.map and config.gz files, then symlink back into /boot [05:04] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:04] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:05] hrad: just remember how your filesystem is laid out when you setup your lilo.conf [05:05] and make changes to the sections as appropriate [05:06] so for your slackwareRC label, change image to "image = /RC/boot/vmlinuz...." and try reruning lilo to see what it says [05:10] hrad: wait - you may have issues. this will only work when you boot your slackware label due to root changing after you boot into your slackwareRC image [05:11] exactly [05:11] matt0 (n=matt0@110-175-94-24.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:11] and what about point the RC to the original file and let 13.0 slackware point to symlink [05:12] so go back to my earlier suggestion and make /boot a separate partition, then you can have your slackware label images in /boot, make /boot/RC directory and put your slackwareRC images in /boot/RC [05:12] and delete the symlink in RC /boot/ directory [05:12] matt0 (n=matt0@110-175-94-24.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:12] *original file = non-symlink [05:13] hrad: you can modify rc.S in your slackRC partition to make allowances for /boot/RC so /boot/vmlinuz point to /boot/RC/vmlinuz-.... [05:14] hrad: however, since your kernel images should all be different files anyway, it shouldn't matter if all kernel images (both slackware and slackwareRC) are in /boot [05:14] as long as /boot is a separate partition [05:15] just make sure /etc/lilo.conf is a symlink to /boot/lilo.conf so you have consistent behavior between them [05:16] otherwise you have to make sure both slackware /etc/lilo.conf and slackwareRC /etc/lilo.conf stay in sync [05:16] the only difference would be if the RC lilo has extra bells and whistles that the standard slackware lilo doesn't have [05:16] omg, I don't have free space for another partition [05:17] wertik_rus (i=500@89-178-156-71.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [05:17] that's why I always try to make /boot the first partition :) [05:18] and why is lisak home directories separate between the versions? [05:18] Buggaboo (n=Buggab00@a83-163-207-12.adsl.xs4all.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:19] hey [05:19] my usual recommendation is (partitions in order): /boot, /, /swap, /home [05:19] and /var/log [05:19] cause it is 32 and 64 bit [05:19] for forensics or whatever. [05:19] actually, /var/log should be based on the system rather than shared [05:19] so it should stay with / [05:19] and I needed it just to copy data from one home to another [05:19] I argue that /var/log gets written more than / [05:20] hrad: home directories don't care if you're running 32 or 64 bit [05:20] unless you compile programs to run inside the user directory [05:20] then just keep separate 32/64 bit program directories [05:20] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:20] I hate having to sync between versions is why i have /home on /dev/sdb [05:21] Action: Zordrak suddenly realises he has no idea why the smp kernels are named smp twice [05:21] Action: alisonken1noc just didn't care as long as smp was there :) [05:21] generic-smp-uname where uname ends "-smp" [05:21] seems putting the first smp in is just a waste of characters [05:22] pat probably had a discussion about that [05:22] (inside his head) [05:22] heh [05:24] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [05:24] u is cat? [05:24] and while im bitching.. wtf dont macrovision/rovi make the userspace licince manager tools available to everyone for free... you can get them pretty much anywhere anyway... just not in official releases [05:25] anyone bored wana do some bot tracking? [05:25] i have a fresh malware to play with [05:25] or is it acresso now? [05:25] acidchild: which one? [05:25] i am STILL unable to play any dvd at all on my system with any player i've reinstalled libdvdcss, libdvdread, libdvdnav and recompiled mplayer specifying the locations of the dvd libs and it STILL doesnt fucking play! [05:25] alisonken1noc: gosh, I simply didn't want all configuration of everything to remain the same...that's it :) [05:25] i_is_cat: Try it as root [05:26] hrad: :) [05:26] alisonken1noc: i dunno yet! =] [05:26] it does NOTHING just zombies the light on the drive does nothing and yet somehow its taking control over my dvd burner because i cant eject the dvd anymore [05:26] i dunno what the hell the deal is but its severely irritating me [05:27] alisonken1noc: and whatabout to put content of /RC/boot to /boot under different symlinks [05:27] i_is_cat: lsof |grep '/dev' [05:27] see whats using it. [05:27] or fuser /dev/dvd [05:27] i did try it as root [05:27] doesn't matter. [05:27] the drive is busy its busy. [05:27] acidchild, i've already rebooted.. 15 zombie mplayers and xines isnt good for a system [05:27] i_is_cat: no error? [05:28] mmm is still here someone who ran slack 13 on an asus eeepc? [05:28] i_is_cat: try gmplayer dvd:// [05:28] at least kaffeine and gxine and smplayer actually DIE when i kill them [05:28] then go to menu and go to DVD, does the chapters show? [05:28] hrad: with root of both systems on different partitions AND root using different partitions, it's a tough one [05:28] Lalloso, I have it installed on a eeepc 900 [05:29] i dont have gmplayer acidchild [05:29] smplayer? [05:29] alisonken1noc: omg, and is there a way of shrinking a partition ? [05:29] it doesnt play [05:29] omg [05:29] they DO! [05:29] hrad: of course, as long as there's space [05:29] frabjous day! [05:30] gets to 'libdvdread: using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access' and just sits there [05:30] hrad: you just want to make sure you're booted from a live cd rather than your drive while doing the partitioning resizing [05:30] hrad: (safety precaution) [05:30] hackedhead_ (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [05:30] my user is in the video, cdrom, and disk group, among others.. [05:30] like i said, use lsof [05:30] something is locking. [05:30] says mplayer has control of it [05:31] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [05:31] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:31] matt0: do the functions keys such as turn off bluetooth and wifi work for you? [05:32] alisonken1noc: resize2fs or GNU parted ? [05:32] Xires (n=Xires@66.190.79.122) joined ##slackware. [05:32] hrad: I d/l'ed gnu parted live cd and used it the last time I needed resize, but it's been a while since I've needed to do that [05:33] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:33] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [05:33] hrad: just make sure that the version you use supports ALL filesystems in use on your system (ext2/3/4, reiserfs, etc.) [05:33] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-10-17.w90-34.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:34] i dont get why its being such a bitch this time.. i dont remember doing anything special with any of the 12(.x) versions of slack [05:34] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:35] Action: alisonken1noc waiting for Jay Leno show from last night to show up on hulu.com [05:35] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-151-141.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:35] Lalloso I have got them to work although my eee doesn't have bluetooth, read this http://www.codekoala.com/blog/2008/installing-slackware-122-your-eeepc-701-4g-my-case/#enable-volume-hotkeys-and-sleeping [05:36] hackedhe1d_ (n=hackedhe@pool-71-164-71-210.albyny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:36] y0 slackers....How's everyone? [05:36] y0 MLanden [05:37] Im fine [05:37] How about you? [05:37] alisonken1noc: omg, this is the hugest shithole I have ever gotten into [05:37] hrad: :) [05:37] hrad: the goatse man? [05:37] depends on how much forethought you took when laying out your system [05:37] so i tried seeing whats taking up the dvd drive when i use xine [05:38] good thanks....slackytude....gvim workin' right? [05:38] hh [05:38] apparently two identical xine pids are gangraping my dvd drive [05:38] hi people.. i have just upgraded to slackware 13.0 and my keyboard and mouse are dead in x [05:38] i'm running nvidia drivers but had no luck with no xorg.conf and with vesa drivers [05:39] MLanden: yeah ^-^ [05:39] video displays ok but no keyboard and mouse [05:39] zoran119: and you tried with no xorg.conf? [05:39] zoran119: mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.back and try rerunning without xorg.conf [05:39] the keyboard and mouse are logitech cordless usb [05:39] mouse/keyboard are now handled by udev [05:39] slackytude: yeah... did try... no luck [05:40] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:40] (or is it hal? I forgot) [05:40] alisonken1noc: that sounds closer [05:40] how can i be the only one with dvd playing issues? :S i just burnt a dvd [05:40] hal + udev work together [05:40] and i cant even test it [05:41] zoran119: you could test your old xorg.conf with the new options which tell X to not use HAL [05:41] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:41] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.19.149) joined ##slackware. [05:42] zoran119: just on a hunch... open /etc/rc.d/rc.hald -- does it look normal or is it empty? [05:42] slackytude: how do i do that [05:43] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:43] Zordrak: it's not empty... [05:43] it gets to the same line in xine and gxine also: libdvdread: using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for dvd access and then it just sits there [05:43] zoran11`9: pgrep hald`? [05:43] zoran119: `pgrep hald`? [05:44] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [05:44] only this time using gxine, when i lsof /dev/dvd i get hald-prob pid 3081 hald-prob pid 3082 and then 3 identical gxine pids [05:44] Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" Option "AllowEmptyInput" "False" [05:45] i think its funny i can mistype firefox 'irefox' and firefox still opens [05:45] i'm such an idiot.... i didn't use hal in 12.2 so it was not executable... [05:46] zoran119: fnooch [05:46] if I wasn't working now and wasn't have to commit stuff other people needed an hour ago, i wouldn't be in any shithole [05:46] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_input_hotplugging [05:46] oh [05:47] you didnt start hal [05:47] that kinda explains it [05:47] alisonken1noc: hey do you want to meet my other issue with /home/lisak on /dev/sda3 ? that it cannot be mounted because it "doesn't exist" ? [05:48] hackedhead_ (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:48] hrad: what does cfdisk show? [05:49] the reason i stopped hal was because it is making my hdd light flicker every 2 or 3 seconds... it's still doing that... how do i stop it? [05:49] hrad: what does "ls /home" show? [05:50] hrad: keep in mind - you can't really use the same fstab between the versions since / will be different. you have to make sure you have the appropriate entries in fstab for each version [05:50] my ls /home shows a lot of pr0n. [05:50] zoran119: http://linux.die.net/man/1/hal-disable-polling [05:50] C00re: goat? or valid? [05:50] goat? [05:50] ewh. [05:50] :) [05:51] dimm0k_ (n=dimm0k@71.183.184.40) joined ##slackware. [05:51] yes, but it is about a situation, that I have a partition and it can't be mounted to /home/lisak because either /dev/sda3 or /home/lisak doesn't exists [05:51] but they do [05:51] http://pastebin.com/d2482c55b [05:52] hrad: when you boot slackware, /RC/home/lisak will be /RC/home/lisak, but when you boot slackwareRC, /RC/home/lisak will be /home/lisak [05:52] wait - forget it [05:53] hrad: possibly /home/lisak doesn't exist when you boot RC [05:53] when I $mount /dev/sda3 /home/lisak >>> mount: No such file or directory [05:53] I'm in slackware noe [05:53] now [05:53] hrad: ok - what does [05:53] ls /home show? [05:53] hackedhe1d_ (n=hackedhe@pool-71-164-71-210.albyny.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:54] thx matt0 [05:54] I set it to 777 [05:54] mingdao: which device is it polling that is making my hdd light flicker? [05:54] mkdir /home/lisak [05:54] mingdao: what should i disable [05:54] drwxrwxrwx 21 lisak users 4096 2009-09-17 11:01 lisak [05:54] at the installation time I mounted sda3 to /home/lisak [05:55] but something must have gone wrong [05:55] flvr (i=0@host-93-182-19-84.real.kvidex.net) joined ##slackware. [05:55] zoran119: it blinks every 2 seconds? [05:55] and adduser lisak to it and chown it [05:55] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [05:55] mingdao: yeah [05:56] zoran119: probably your optical drive [05:56] hrad: also, keep in mind /etc/passwd is not shared between versions, so see what the difference is between slackware /etc/passwd and slackwareRC /etc/passwd [05:56] use hal-disable-polling --device /dev/sr0 where /dev/sr0 is the optical drive [05:56] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.222.84.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [05:57] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.222.84.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:57] alisonken1noc: I guess that it is irrelewant for this situation [05:57] mingdao: that was it! thanks! [05:58] thats a good idea for laptops [05:58] zoran119: you're welcome [05:58] polling of optical media is huge power drain [05:59] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [05:59] zoran119: I don't run a DE, or care to automount them ... you might want to script it if you always want to do that. [06:00] linXea (n=linXea@81.233.227.253) joined ##slackware. [06:00] alisonken1noc: there is really no logical explanation for that...I guess that now /home/lisak is in root partition and I could format it and use it for the /boot [06:00] I could format the /sda3 partition [06:01] true,slackytude....'specially,on the netbooks that don't have 'em [06:01] hrad: quick test is to mount it to /mnt/tmp [06:01] or try to [06:01] "mount -t ext4 /dev/sda3 /mnt/tmp" [06:01] mount: No such file or directory [06:01] hrad: "which mount" [06:02] with "t" it goes: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3, [06:02] without "t" [06:02] I formatted everything to ext4 [06:03] so I guess that sda3 is kinda corrupted [06:03] sounds possible [06:03] mingdao: yeah... i use xmonad so i don't use hal to mount removable drives, but when i want to use a usb stick i find myself logging in as the root to mount it and use it... i don't have a clean solution... what do u use... sudo, fstab.... how do u mount removable drives? [06:03] I remember that during installation when it was being formatted...it took extremely long time [06:04] part of it might be the extended partitions [06:04] zoran119: UUID=45A7-AB53 /mnt/kingston vfat users,rw,gid=100,dmask=0002,fmask=0113 0 0 [06:04] (partition numbers >4) [06:05] zoran119: and for my camera, which is always just photos/videos to the server ... UUID=0000-0000 /mnt/Sony-DSC vfat users,rw,gid=100,dmask=0002,fmask=0113 0 0 [06:05] alisonken1noc: sda5 is not apart of the extended one [06:05] zoran119: then I run a script as user to cp the photos/videos to where I save them [06:06] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:06] zoran, might want to look at pmount [06:07] ok... and users option lets the user mount the drive? [06:07] user or users ... users means any user can unmount; users means only the user who mounted can unmount [06:08] doesn't really matter on that box, because there is only one user (other than root) [06:09] typo -> users means only the user who mounted can unmount should have read "user" means only the user who mounted can unmount [06:10] DHarry (n=DHarry@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [06:10] yay new snownews version [06:10] alisonken1noc: omg I'm an idiot, I made the bootable sda5 partition as a logical [06:10] KillerV (n=unlimite@bhe201062219054.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [06:11] fail [06:11] fun [06:11] alisonken1noc: I wonder that it let me mark it as bootable because bootable can't be logical [06:12] Linux - let's you shoot both feet with a smile :) [06:12] alisonken1noc: no, it is the RC [06:12] god, I'd better go to smoke [06:13] hrad: Linux does not need the bootable flag [06:14] is it just for the installation purpuses ? [06:14] dimm0k (n=dimm0k@pool-96-224-18-176.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:14] zoran119: If you want to look at some pmount / ivman options, there was a thread in LQ [06:14] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/fluxbox-removable-media-581293/?highlight=pmount [06:14] bootable flag is for Windows hrad [06:15] mingdao: so I mean bootable like root [06:15] but it's true that it doesn't matter either [06:15] get (n=winsucks@unaffiliated/get) joined ##slackware. [06:15] I don't know what you mean hrad. [06:17] I remember that years ago since I read tutorials there were everywhere to mark a bootable partition at the installation time and since then I'm doing it everytime :) [06:18] It won't hurt anything for Linux, hrad, but it's not necessary. [06:18] It might mess up your Windows on a dual boot if you mark it wrong. [06:18] |alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:18] mingdao: what's w [06:18] Windows? :) [06:18] ?? [06:19] It' [06:19] mingdao: sorry, enter key too close to quote key [06:19] |alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [06:19] Action: Zordrak removes your CR key to make you use the Enter key instead [06:20] alisonken1noc: please last thing, I created the bootable partition...now I'm gonna copy over the current slackware content of /boot and ? [06:20] Zordrak: both are marked "Enter" - so what now? [06:20] Windows is a thirty-two bit extension and GUI shell to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system originally coded for a four bit microprocessor and sold by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition. [06:20] Action: Zordrak takes the biggest one away [06:20] content of /RC/boot under different symlinks ? it might be working [06:20] mingdao: amazingly enough, I remember about when that quote came out :) [06:20] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [06:21] Yes, alisonken1noc, do you miss USEnet? [06:21] hrad: as long as the kernel names are different, you don't have to worry about it - just put all kernels/configs/System.maps/initrd's in the /boot partition and make sure they're properly named [06:21] i used to think i missed it [06:21] but then i realised i REALLY dont [06:21] mingdao: not really [06:22] Usenet: IRC for the beginner typist [06:22] etc [06:22] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [06:23] Man.. suddenly remembering Virgin.net IRC from 1999 [06:23] htat was a fun time [06:24] Action: alisonken1noc remembers the fun on darpanet from '93 [06:24] esp since all hosts were available in full and teardrops worked [06:24] and also dialup bbs's [06:24] Action: Zordrak never *got* dialup bbses [06:24] used to make heavy use of an 800 number to a reservists bbs [06:25] Zordrak: usenet for the home user without networking :) [06:26] hrad (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-kxcwkhsjrxkrmqzx) left irc: "Page closed" [06:28] thing is.. ive only had a computer since it was possible to make at least a basic (about 33k) connection to an "interets" [06:28] so.. i dialed the intrenertz and used the tubes rahter than dialing up some douchebag's basement [06:29] i think i prolly got a computer around the time 33.6 came out [06:29] never remember using 14.4 [06:30] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [06:30] I remember when we bought a brand-new 2400 baud modem. the chief tried listening in on the dedicated printout, but wouldn't work because the dedicated was a proprietary 9600 baud connection [06:32] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Client Quit [06:32] i remember when it was SO long ago i made a computer out of dirt and plugged it into a dinosaurs asshole for power [06:32] but you young whippersnappers wouldnt remember the "good ol days" [06:33] rofl [06:33] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.181.18) joined ##slackware. [06:33] i_is_cat: imo 33.6 isnt stupid-old [06:33] :) [06:33] its reasonably long ago [06:33] 2400baud is stupid-old [06:33] your inet connection would usually drop though when trex let one rip [06:34] alisonken1noc: will be dead soon [06:35] lay, mplayer anhmmmm just uninstalled libdvdcss, libdvdnav, libdvdread, libdvdpd xine and then reinstalled libdvdread libdvdnav libdvdcss and mplayer and pointed mplayer to the dvdnav and dvdread-config's and disabled the internal mplayer dvd stuff and still it gets to that same damned line and just sits there [06:35] whooo dont know what happened to the beginning of that lol [06:35] i_is_cat: vlc? [06:36] havent tried.. i use mplayer/mencoder to rip dvds so if i cant play, i cant rip [06:36] will at l/east rule out a large selection of possible causes [06:36] i suppose its worth a shot [06:36] totally [06:36] you gotta whittle the causes down [06:37] Action: Zordrak launches Diagnostics 101 [06:37] Action: Zordrak charges two bags of green per semester [06:38] You choose the size of bag.. the bigger the bag.. the better your course content [06:38] it does seem to play dvd iso's fine if that matters at all.. [06:39] so i upgraded to 13.0 and am now running 2.6.29.6-smp... is this a huge kernel? [06:41] zoran119, yes it is, unless you made a initrd.gz and you loaded it :) Did you? [06:42] theres no -smp kernel. its either generic-smp or huge-smp [06:42] metrofox: yeah... i had to... root is on lvm [06:42] sahko: uname says 2.6.29.6-smp [06:43] if you use an initrd its generic [06:43] Please stop saying initrd.. you're giving me a headache [06:44] Zordrak, do you want an aspirin? ;) [06:44] sahko: how does that work...? u cannot use initrd with huge? [06:44] nah vlc doesnt seem to work either but its not giving any reason [06:44] http://blog.tpa.me.uk/?p=8 [06:44] zoran119: you dont need one with huge [06:44] zoran119: well.. you dont need one ever [06:44] Zordrak: remember - those were the pre-internet days when it was darpanet switching to internet :) [06:44] zoran119: but definitely not with huge [06:44] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [06:45] hrad (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-qmylqiirvovuodbo) joined ##slackware. [06:45] my drive isnt opening still... hmmm im rebooting... [06:45] i_is_cat: then its prolly not libdvd* [06:45] zoran119: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/?p=51 too [06:45] opens fine once the systems rebooted.. [06:46] i suppose i could've tried the eject command.. [06:46] i_is_cat: er.. perhaps [06:46] wertik_rus (i=500@89.178.156.71) joined ##slackware. [06:46] most likely wouldnt have worked though but i'll try when it happens again, because i know it will [06:46] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: "hard reboot" [06:47] |alisonken1churc: pls what tool do I use to create /dev/sda* file after creating the partition with fdisk...without reboot [06:47] alisonken1noc: [06:48] make xconfig doesn't work... wants qt3! [06:48] Nick change: dimm0k_ -> dimm0k [06:48] hrad: the script is mknod (should be in /dev directory), but make sure you have the major/minor numbers correct [06:48] udev should create them automagically, though [06:48] but shouldn't it be there right after fdisk ? [06:48] automaticvally [06:49] ok after a reboot, vlc spits out the same line: libdvdread: using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access and then just sits there [06:49] hrad: devices have to be accessible >before< fdisk can see the partitions :) [06:49] pushing the button doesnt work but the eject command did eject the disc [06:50] hrad: without a proper /dev/sd* entry, fdisk won't see the partition to check [06:50] and fstab entry is read during booting by udev [06:50] ok [06:51] petterah (n=petter@static243-165-178.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [06:51] no - udev creates the device entries by looking at hardware. fstab has nothing to do with udev [06:52] and now nothing is using the dvd drive according to lsof but eject will not eject the disc [06:52] why are we getting your dvd play-by-play? [06:54] metrofox_ (n=metrofox@151.33.255.240) joined ##slackware. [06:55] because dvd's do not play, this isnt something complicated it should be more or less good to go yet no matter what i do, nothing seems to be working and no one anywhere seems to be having an issue like this [06:55] i_is_cat: try another drive.. just in case? [06:55] rule it out [06:56] i've scoured google and i find some posts with the same sort of issues which seem to usually be resolved with creating a symbolic link or adding themselves to the group or something but it doesnt work for me [06:56] zoztrix (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:57] i dont see why it would be the drive.. i can try a different one in a few hours but this one has been reading dvd's fine on 12.2 and i just burnt a dvd with it.. and installed slack 13 off the dvd with it [06:57] Zordrak: in you kernel compile guide, in step 2 you say to use the generic config as a template, and not huge. why is that? since you dont recommend using an initrd anyway. [06:57] fnuff [06:57] i_is_cat: which dvd? and did it play in earlier versions of slackware? [06:57] all my dvd's [06:57] sahko: i think you may be missing the point [06:57] currently its one i just burnt that isnt encrypted [06:58] sahko: the guide is to provide you with a minimal kernel that doesnt require an initrd [06:58] alisonken1noc: I can't figure that out... [06:58] i_is_cat: did it play in earlier slack versions? may want to try that as well on a newly burned dvd [06:58] hrad: what's that? [06:58] Zordrak: ok, so generic is more minimal i guess [06:58] what is exactly done by udev with fstab [06:58] ittakes you through making sure you have compiled in the modules you would have made an initrd for so you wont need an initrd [06:59] the other discs i've tried on 13, i've previously watched and ripped on 12.2 [06:59] sahko: generic is pretty much "make modular" option to build kernel [06:59] hrad: udev doesn't use fstab [06:59] to make /dev/sd* visible and pointing to the partition [06:59] I can't reboot now [06:59] the result is you get the same system as you would with generig&initrd.. but without needing the initrd at all [06:59] udev detects devices, then creates appropriate /dev entries [06:59] Zordrak: btw have you used bold fonts throughout the article? [06:59] converting a 60mb word file to latex is no fun [06:59] sahko: Ive just fiked it... it was a wordpress failure [06:59] it bolded the whole dawn thing [07:00] toox 10 mins to strip it [07:00] hrad: fstab is only use by the mount command >if you don't give it options on the cli< [07:00] *damn [07:00] *took [07:00] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.181.18) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [07:00] much better readable now [07:00] indeed [07:00] and how do I create them with the mknod to be pointing to the partition [07:00] hrad: suck it up and reboot [07:00] hrad: ex: "mount -t ext4 /dev/sda3 /home/lisak" <-- mount ignores fstab [07:00] I create the node [07:01] "mount /home/lisak" <--- mount looks at fstab for partition/options [07:01] ok, and mknod with what parameters [07:01] mknod? why mknod? [07:01] does anyone know an easy way to use encrypted passwords in dotfiles? [07:02] hrad: man mknod [07:02] for the sda4 of /boot partition [07:02] .dotfiles? [07:02] mancha: yeah [07:02] translate that to english please [07:02] eg. muttrc or whatever [07:02] what does use passwords in dotfiles mean, in human-speak? [07:03] mancha: my irssi config file has my nicks password [07:03] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [07:03] hrad: on __MY__ system, ls -l /dev/sda* returns sda major 8 minor 0, sda1 major 8 minor 1, sda2 major 8 minor 2, .... [07:03] ok...? [07:03] sahko: it has to have it unencrypted [07:03] sahko: it has to pass it to the server unencrypted [07:03] hrad: so ls -l /dev/sda* and see what your major minor numbers shoul dbe [07:03] alisonken1noc: I don't understand the minor major numbers [07:03] matt0 (n=matt0@110-175-94-24.tpgi.com.au) left irc: "wut" [07:04] sahko: use a random strong password that different to any other [07:04] hrad: yeah - it's a black art in linux circles :) [07:04] sahko, i still son't understand what you are trying to achieve [07:04] mancha: 1 min i ll show you [07:05] hrad: but basically, the major number is set by device type (there's a whole writeup on it), and minor numbers are used to indicate which instance it is [07:05] alisonken1noc: mknod /dev/sda4 b 8 4 [07:05] hrad: something like that, yeah [07:05] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) left irc: "leaving" [07:06] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-10-17.w90-34.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:07] mancha: see line 16 here: http://tmux.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tmux/tmux/examples/n-marriott.conf?revision=1.9&view=markup something like that. [07:08] 17 to be precise [07:08] so you want your passwd in your irssi to be crypted so if someone opens the config they can't see yoor pass? [07:09] alisonken1noc: mount: /dev/sda4 is not a valid block device ....a set the block file exactly as the others are set [07:09] and there is ext4 created and formatted partition [07:09] ie this is to prevent prying eyes from seeing personal info in your config files? [07:09] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [07:09] hrad: I thought the problem was sda3? [07:10] no, sda4 is the new one for /boot [07:10] that's why I can't reboot [07:10] and first off set the boot partition up [07:10] mancha: not exactly as you put it but close [07:11] ok, line 17 doesn't do anything for me. maybe if you write your objective in plain english [07:11] "i would like to xyz so that if rst happens then pdq will launch def and let ghi know that rst" [07:12] it is primary partition, and there is a block device file ...http://pastebin.com/d4702486a [07:13] alisonken1noc: and it was formatted by mkfs.ext4 [07:14] john_dee (n=id@89.179.30.140) left irc: "link closed" [07:14] mancha: i dont have time for that right now. i gtg. maybe later. [07:14] cha cha:) [07:14] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [07:15] alisonken1noc: so I guess that it is not easy as it seems [07:15] hrad: before or after you ran mknod? [07:16] (format, that is) [07:16] after mknod [07:16] hello [07:17] a run mknod, created sd4 block file, set it properly and then wanted to mount to it the previously created partition [07:17] hrad: in that case, the only other thing I can think of is to reboot, if it still gives an error, then the partition table on the drive may have gotten hosed [07:17] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-151-141.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [07:17] ok [07:18] hmmm i just decided to check dmesg, dont know why i never thought to check it before but its giving me a driveready seekcomplete error [07:19] Nick change: metrofox_ -> metrofox [07:20] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [07:20] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-dkkkboqvotdjwjbs) joined ##slackware. [07:21] hrad (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-qmylqiirvovuodbo) left irc: "Page closed" [07:21] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.222.116) joined ##slackware. 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[07:37] ya thats what im gathering from the google searches.. weird how it would read the disc fine to install and then mount/install the extras and then burn a disc even and then just die [07:38] ugh [07:38] stupid google toolbar for firefox... bye bye. no love. [07:39] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [07:42] So beautiful. New licence server machine all prepped and ready to go. Slackware 13.0. Post-boot used RAM = 40MB :D [07:42] 22 running processes [07:43] and three of those are sshd, -bash, htop (me logged in) [07:46] metrofox_ (n=metrofox@151.56.150.248) joined ##slackware. [07:47] hello [07:47] whats wrong with this syntax [07:47] cp /home/agiofws/Downloads/$(ls -ltrh) . ? [07:47] your enumerating wrongf [07:48] ahh [07:48] cp $(ls -ltrh /home/agiofws/Downloads/.) . [07:48] *you're [07:49] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. 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[07:53] 1 per line [07:54] petterah: since I have a big enough drive, yea. including source only takes ~6-8 gigs worth of space [07:54] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:54] petterah: at least with slackware :) [07:54] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.33.255.240) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [07:54] alisonken1noc, ok thanks, I did the same, just deselecting some packages like mysql, xfce-things and some uneeded server packages [07:55] petterah: that's the other way - install everything, then find which packages you don't want/need and uninstall [07:55] When installing a server then? I have a little fileserver with dual 500GB disks... Do I need the "L" packages on a small fileserver? Is it enough with A, N and some services? [07:56] agiofws@ixus:/mnt/videos/bl2.5$cp /home/agiofws/Downloads/$(ls -tr|tail -n 1) . [07:56] cp: cannot stat `/home/agiofws/Downloads/1113_blender25_r23286_32bit.tgz': No such file or directory [07:56] you need L unless you know you don't need L [07:56] petterah: l has other libs as well - you want to make sure which libraries you _dont_ need, then uninstall only those [07:57] don't you need to ls -tr /home/agiofwes/Downloads ? [07:57] petterah: the only libs I can think of offhand would be the gtk+ and qt libs (GUI stuff) - but I wouldn't worry if you have a 500G drive to play with [07:57] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [07:57] petterah: besides, you can also make a headless Xserver out of it as well :) [07:58] (think thin clients) [07:58] ie cp /home/agiofws/Downloads/$(ls -tr /home/agiofws/Downloads | tail -n 1 ) [07:58] ie cp /home/agiofws/Downloads/$(ls -tr /home/agiofws/Downloads | tail -n 1) . [07:59] mancha, why ? [07:59] ok thanks :) Its better to base the install on everything, and only remove the things you know you don't need, than just install some few packages and deal with dependencies.. [08:00] just do it [08:00] petterah: among other things [08:00] worked but why ? [08:00] petterah: if it was windows, that would be a different matter :) [08:00] becuase you're not in /home/agiofws... [08:00] hehe [08:00] so the ls -tr was listing your current dir [08:00] Only problem is getting used to KDE hehe [08:01] petterah: you can always (shock and horror) go to gsb.org :) [08:01] m4lik (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [08:01] but I've found kde to be better than gnome the last couple of years [08:02] kde4, on the other hand, will take some getting used to as well [08:03] Agio, you see now? [08:04] kde4 yes, i used kde3 some time ago, and that was ok, but I don't like the idea of using 3d party on large things like gnome.. Maybe I'm just paranoid [08:05] petterah: you can basically just install all the packages except E, KDE, KDEI, T, XAP, Y series for your server [08:05] firedix (n=firedix@200.43.72.237) joined ##slackware. [08:05] always get y/ [08:05] who can live without fortune? [08:05] Y is never needed on a server ... or any working box. [08:06] of course [08:06] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189.69.21.191) joined ##slackware. [08:06] metrofox_ (n=metrofox@151.56.150.248) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:07] mingdao, thanks for the tip ;) [08:07] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [08:07] I don't need games :p [08:07] metrofox_ (n=metrofox@151.56.189.42) joined ##slackware. [08:07] hey what do i do with group.new, passwd.new and shaddow.new now that i have upgraded to 13.0? [08:08] -fortune = life=/dev/nul [08:08] zoran119: wanually merge [08:08] *manually [08:09] zoran119: what did you upgrade from? [08:09] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [08:09] mingdao: 12.2 [08:09] you can "diff /etc/group /etc/group.new" but you probably have the same groups [08:10] zoran119: Don't save your group/passwd/shadow from older versions. [08:10] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:10] I just upgraded my server from 10.2 to 13.0, and they don't work at all. [08:10] zoran119: use groupadd and useradd to update your new setup with the old users/groups [08:11] zoran119: nm - I'm used to replacing rather than upgrading, so forget that [08:11] alisonken1noc: can i just copy the relevant lines in the file or do i have to use useradd? [08:11] zoran119: you can copy those lines by hand [08:11] zoran119: useradd is better since the hash for the passwords will probably change [08:11] the only diff from group is oprofile group [08:12] http://space.1337arts.com/ [08:12] use the new ones then [08:12] pass that is [08:12] yes [08:13] linXea (n=linXea@81.233.227.253) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:13] zoran119: since you upgraded, the *.new files are from the upgrade. you're still working with the old files so it shouldn't matter unless the password hash algorithm has changed with the new version [08:13] might need that oprofile group though [08:13] zoran119: the only real difference would be making sure possible new groups from the groups.new file is added to groups to cover new setups [08:14] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [08:14] nimrod_ (n=nimrod@176.64.202.84.customer.cdi.no) joined ##slackware. [08:14] Nick change: nimrod_ -> Wunnymush [08:14] zoran119: a better option would have been to rename those old files with .old extensions, then update the newly added files [08:16] what's group- [08:16] the tilde (~) character indicates a backup file [08:17] it's not possible for me to go here: "http://localhost:631/". I'm trying to install a printer. WHat should i do? [08:17] Wunnymush: check if cups is running [08:17] alisonken1noc: not ~ but a dash - [08:17] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [08:17] zoran119: stil think it's a backup file [08:17] metrofox_ (n=metrofox@151.56.189.42) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:18] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: "No Ping reply in 90 seconds." [08:18] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [08:19] nheco (n=nheco@201-89-186-233.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:19] alisonken1noc, how do i do that? [08:21] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:21] when i try to "/etc/rc.d/rc.cups start" permission is denied [08:22] flvr (i=0@host-93-182-19-84.real.kvidex.net) left irc: "Leaving." [08:22] Wunnymush: ls -l /etc/rc.d/rc.cups [08:23] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-245-109-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:24] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [08:24] hi [08:25] alisonken1noc, "-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4318 2009-08-22 04:51 /etc/rc.d/rc.cups" [08:25] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-7.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:25] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [08:25] Wunnymush: chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.cups (as root) [08:25] then /etc/rc.d/rc.cups start [08:26] ok [08:26] thanks, alisonken1noc [08:27] np [08:29] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [08:29] gnubien (n=e@16.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:29] woot - jay leno last night's show is on hulu finally [08:32] spooge (n=spooge@173-18-193-232.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:34] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:34] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [08:35] Anyone dealt with lmadmin yet? [08:36] long time ago [08:36] Wunnymush (n=nimrod@176.64.202.84.customer.cdi.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:37] what kernel do you suggest from the latest slack 13 for an asus eeepc? [08:37] it just has i686 CPU [08:37] ananke: lmadmin? its not that old... [08:37] Zordrak: this is computer time :) [08:37] Zordrak: it seems that it's simply a rehashed version of flexlm [08:38] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [08:38] ananke: the web service one? [08:38] metrofox_ (n=metrofox@151.56.177.111) joined ##slackware. [08:38] Zordrak: nope, the standalone app [08:39] wertik_rus (i=500@89.178.156.71) left irc: "Leaving" [08:39] lmutil was the name i think [08:39] anyway. i guess the answer is no :) [08:39] ... what i mean is that lmadmin is a new replacement for multiple standalone lmgrds that runs a webinterface [08:40] what sucks? 4 hours with kernel compile, then it fails... acer one, not a speedy little monster... [08:40] petterah: compile it on a different machine then move it back [08:40] petterah: what sucks is recompiling a newer kernel on a 386 33MHz machine [08:41] hehe, ok, i should be looking at the buildscripts for the kernel and modules... [08:41] alisonken1noc, are you still running a 386? [08:41] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: "No Ping reply in 90 seconds." [08:42] petterah: not anymore - it died and I can't find replacement parts anymore [08:42] Lalloso: use the generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp [08:42] Nick change: metrofox_ -> metrofox [08:44] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: "Leaving" [08:44] paissad-hp (n=paissad@134.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:44] Lalloso: I don't know this person, but you might find some interesting notes -> http://www.wooush.com/node/3 [08:45] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Quitting" [08:47] toastytoast (n=toast@74.75.199.104) left irc: "leaving" [08:47] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [08:48] firedix_ (n=firedix@200.43.72.237) joined ##slackware. [08:48] firedix_ (n=firedix@200.43.72.237) left irc: Client Quit [08:48] alienBOB: is the source for AST available? [08:50] dimm0k_ (n=dimm0k@pool-71-183-188-222.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[08:58] yw Lalloso [08:59] alienBOB: I wanted to expand it a bit to support cross-compilation [08:59] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:59] mingdao: I think the easiest way is probably to get a physical access to the server then :P [08:59] Camarade_Tux: cross-compile to what architecture? [08:59] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[09:38] firedix (n=firedix@200.43.72.237) left irc: "Leaving" [09:38] yes... and X .. i think of something else changed the keymap.. maybe xfce? .. their keymap setting options is real crap. it defaults to 'us' after every restart [09:38] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [09:38] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [09:38] the values are confirmed in xorg.log i'va forgot to say [09:39] maybe remove it from xfce, then if you need it re-add it and it will be at the bottom of the list? [09:40] hm, i rechecked the "use global settings" box earlier.. I have a look at the xinitrc of xfce [09:41] ahh.. forgot it [09:42] ... If I remember correctly I've got a .Xmodmap in my HOME dir, which I needed for my fn-keys.. [09:42] in slack12 [09:43] 'L' in FLOSS stands for Libre or Linux? ;) [09:43] how embarrassing [09:44] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC028C7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:44] Action: MLanden had to wiki that one....libre,westol [09:44] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC028C7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:45] that was it [09:47] Agiofws_ (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427592.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [09:47] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427592.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:50] jigp (i=allan@securabit/listener/jigp) joined ##slackware. [09:51] dimm0k_ (n=dimm0k@pool-71-183-188-222.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:51] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-137-1.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:56] does anyone do suspend when using madwifi drivers? i remember having trouble with that. [09:56] morn [09:56] dimm0k (n=dimm0k@pool-71-183-187-226.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:57] Quiznos: mornin' [09:57] hi [09:57] Action: jigp pokes Quiznos [09:57] Action: Quiznos pokes jigp and falls over [09:57] _dieter_ (n=dieter_j@p54BEE6FA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:57] I hate word [09:58] I really do [09:58] estevao1 (n=estevao@187.59.168.30) joined ##slackware. [09:58] _dieter_ (n=dieter_j@p54BEE6FA.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware. [09:58] slackytu2e, use writer [09:58] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-173.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:58] juice (i=1000@cpe-65-28-97-1.kc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:58] slava_dp: can't [09:58] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:59] slackytu2e, make your admin install it =) [10:00] slackytu2e, buy him beer or something [10:01] estevao (n=estevao@189.115.217.189) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:02] slava_dp: problem is this 60MB word document [10:02] slava_dp: looks like crap in OO [10:02] but OO stinks as well [10:02] but the most annoying thing is Word not displaying embedded Images [10:02] learn latex [10:02] I mean, wtf [10:03] Quiznos: I was trying to convert the doc to latex [10:03] i disagree, ooo does not stink, it smells fresh here. [10:03] k [10:03] Quiznos: takes too much time tho. for now I have to use word [10:03] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.67.41) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:03] nods [10:04] high curve; yea [10:04] i think i've seen at least one wysiwyg frontend for latex [10:05] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [10:05] estevao1 (n=estevao@187.59.168.30) left irc: "Leaving." [10:05] usually they're wysiwyw [10:05] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.168.30) joined ##slackware. [10:05] iduno [10:05] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.168.30) left irc: Client Quit [10:05] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.168.30) joined ##slackware. [10:06] wysiwym [10:06] what you see is what you mean [10:06] but its not latex thats the problem [10:06] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:06] wysiwygtfo [10:06] its converting the doc thats hard [10:08] use a word macro [10:09] caveat emptor: the latex will be as smart as the author of the macro [10:10] mr_patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-afcvisravoolbniw) joined ##slackware. [10:11] A good 8:11AM MST to all :D [10:13] mr_patterson: which mountain do you live on? :) [10:14] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-245-109-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:14] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-245-109-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:15] gnubien: Close to the Rockies. [10:17] mr_patterson: when you date +%Z in the console..is it MST or MDT? [10:18] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-181-68-208.lns9.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [10:18] seejay (n=seejay@plexyplanet.org) joined ##slackware. [10:18] slackytude aka DWIM [10:19] i hate daylight saving time; i'm sick of not seeing the sunrise when i wake; it's 2h damnit [10:19] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:19] MLanden: MDT :) [10:20] I WANT MY WINTER HOURS!!! [10:20] mr_patterson: ok [10:21] mancha: word macro? [10:21] something like http://kebrt.webz.cz/programs/word-to-latex/ [10:21] ah, that [10:22] tried that, was kinda crappy. but didnt have much time [10:22] as i said, it's as good as the iq of the author [10:22] ooo i have idear [10:22] Action: slackytu2e shrugs [10:22] maybe it gets better with some option [10:22] if not I'll start it from scratch [10:22] everything is better than this word hell [10:22] does latex have translator like gs->any or ->ps? [10:23] i mean OOo ->ps? [10:24] gaz_ (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [10:24] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-134-165.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:25] epaphus (n=unix3@190.10.68.228) joined ##slackware. [10:26] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [10:26] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) joined ##slackware. [10:28] Quiznos: there is a OO extension [10:28] writer 2 latex [10:28] but that didnt even finish. some error [10:29] blackthorne (n=bthorne@unaffiliated/blackthorne) joined ##slackware. [10:31] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427592.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [10:32] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:33] anyone any idea when i close my laptop screen in slack 13 sometimes when i open it i get a blank screen and nothing i do seems to bring my desktop back and others i have a screensaver asking me for a password [10:33] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [10:33] obviously the screensaver is not the issue but the blank screen in which i cant get a desktop back if annoying [10:34] spooge (n=spooge@173-18-193-232.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [10:34] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427592.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:34] gaz_: Does your laptop have fixed resolution? [10:35] can you clarify what you mean by a fixed resolution. Its configured at present to 1280x1024 in my xorg.conf [10:37] gaz_: what I meant to say is if you change resolution,does it crash? [10:38] ive not tried changing it to be honest, im just reviewing the power management config [10:39] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: "Leaving" [10:40] i believe ive found the problem, its suspending to ram when running on battery [10:41] spooge (n=spooge@173-18-193-232.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:42] that can do it too..congrats...:D [10:43] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [10:45] sHyLoCk_ (n=n@115.187.48.141) joined ##slackware. [10:46] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [10:47] spooge (n=spooge@173.18.193.232) joined ##slackware. [10:53] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:53] do someone here have packages of kde 4.3.1 [10:55] probably [10:55] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [10:56] :) [10:56] someone that wana share them :) [10:56] ? [10:56] jhw (n=jhw@84.143.87.163) left irc: Client Quit [10:57] try this from slacky.eu [10:57] ftp://vicsteele.dyndns.org/slackware64/kde4.3.1/ [10:57] hrm [10:57] Im thinking [10:58] would it be possible to insert a USB Stick, and boot a system via NFS [10:58] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [10:58] wertik_rus (i=500@89-178-156-71.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:59] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [10:59] Or even "kde 4.3.1 packages slackware" in Google. [10:59] gaz_ (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [10:59] http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/kde/kde4-packages/4.3.1/x86_64/ [10:59] mornin all [11:00] but i am on 32bits version [11:00] is it possible to run them on 64bits system with 32bits version of slackware [11:01] nopers [11:03] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [11:03] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [11:04] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [11:05] Buggaboo (n=Buggab00@a83-163-207-12.adsl.xs4all.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:05] fsck i have a headache. [11:06] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:06] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-245-109-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:07] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-245-109-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:07] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-154-166.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [11:08] j0k3r_ (n=rddalcen@unaffiliated/j0k3r) joined ##slackware. [11:08] _dieter_ (n=dieter_j@p54BEE6FA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:08] kde-4.3.1_x86 slackbuild http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EDC8EIE2 [11:09] j0k3r_ (n=rddalcen@unaffiliated/j0k3r) left irc: Client Quit [11:09] firedix (n=firedix@200.43.72.237) joined ##slackware. [11:10] _dieter_ (n=dieter_j@p54BEE6FA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:12] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:13] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [11:13] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:14] Hm... I wonder who wrote the KDE 4.3.1 Slackbuild for Slackware 32. [11:14] reade the readme file [11:15] j0k3r_ (n=rddalcen@unaffiliated/j0k3r) joined ##slackware. [11:16] Does the readme file include a line that says "never use binary packages from an untrusted source" ? [11:21] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) joined ##slackware. [11:21] JJJunkk (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:21] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) left irc: Client Quit [11:22] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) joined ##slackware. [11:24] hmm whoever wrote that, could have included his name. [11:24] slackytu2e (n=icke@79.216.163.107) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [11:24] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [11:25] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.67.200) joined ##slackware. [11:26] pmvalente (n=pmvalent@a213-22-60-203.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:26] and it's a mixup from KDE files from bluewhite64. [11:26] Action: BP{k} deletes and goes to have a shower. [11:26] Well, I don't think I'll be installing those on my system. [11:26] heh [11:27] Hi, anybody kwons how to blacklist/disable search for floppy disk on boot [11:27] BP{k}: before doing that e-mail me some good beers. it's 8am here and i have a headache :P [11:27] pmvalente: In your BIOS somewhere. [11:28] eviljames: http://www.genx40.com/images/2006a/4ales1.JPG there you go ;) [11:28] I can't drink a picture! wtf good is e-mail or irc if you can't send beer over it? [11:29] hehe [11:29] I just may boycott both until whatever version enables beer transfer. [11:29] anyhow, you go shower, I can smell you from here [11:29] ;) [11:29] DHarry (n=DHarry@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: "Leaving" [11:29] hmm technically e-mail could facilitate beer transfer. ;) [11:29] hrm [11:29] RFC time [11:30] eviljames: it's a recent notebook, there isn't a floppy drive, so I presume that I could disable or blacklist in some where. [11:30] RFB time! [11:30] BP{k}: hey the carrier pigeon RFC was proven! [11:30] Why not one for alcoholic transfer bia email!? [11:30] er.. via [11:30] Dominian: yes, it has. twice now. :) [11:30] hehe yeah [11:32] slackytu1e (n=icke@p4FD8A36B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:32] pmvalente: What is going searching for the floppy? the OS? POST? [11:33] wertik_rus (i=500@89-178-156-71.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [11:34] eviljames: this is the message on dmesg:Floppy drive (s) fd0 is 1.44M / floppy0: no floppy controlers found. So I presume that is the OS. [11:34] ah, yes. [11:35] pmvalente: If there is a module being loaded, you could blacklist it. Otherwise, this is safe to ignore. [11:35] pmvalente: The module loading attempt shouldn't take longer than a few ms. [11:36] BentoPUNK (n=BentoPUN@201.72.199.2) joined ##slackware. [11:37] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:37] eviljames: 1 to 2 s. But if I could disable why not. [11:38] pmvalente: It depends if it is built into the kernel or not. [11:38] eviljames: ok tks [11:39] np [11:40] pmvalente: does it hang up your system while looking for the drive? [11:40] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [11:40] eviljames: yes, 1 to 2 seconds [11:41] hrm, that's not good. What version of Slackware? [11:41] eviljames: I found this article but there is no refere to Slackware: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/blade-server-disable-floppy-driver-module.html [11:41] eviljames: 13.0 [11:42] pmvalente: are you using the kernel from slackware installation ? [11:42] eviljames: yes [11:43] pmvalente: ok... edit your /etc/rc.d/rc.modules... you will find a modprobe floppy... [11:44] comment this line [11:44] it should fix your problem [11:44] DirtyHarry (n=DHarry@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [11:46] hello everybody... someone can tell me what the rsync server for the slacky.eu repository? PLEASE! :) [11:48] Not sure, you'd probably have to check their site [11:48] BentoPUNK: is it that hard to find out yourself? use rsync(1) [11:48] afaik they aren't an official slackware mirror [11:48] omni_shop (n=ray@unaffiliated/omnipotentduo) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:48] spooge (n=spooge@173.18.193.232) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:48] Dominian, in they site I only found the http and ftp, not rsync... :( [11:48] BP{k}: he wasn't asking for the command [11:49] eviljames: I think thats on kernel, because on rc.modules said: ###Floppy drives suport #(Most Linux kernels should already contain this) #/sbin/modprobe floppy. [11:49] when using rsync it will not follow a sym link made in the directory, but when you create the link with a full path rsync does follow it [11:50] bigpaws: that's to be expected, rsync copies symlinks. [11:50] which is a good thing [tm] [11:51] So ln will use different paths depending where you make them? [11:51] Hermann (n=Hermannn@m90-137-87-251.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [11:51] BentoPUNK (n=BentoPUN@201.72.199.2) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:51] huh? [11:51] eviljames: by the way, do you know why Slackware 13.0 drain my notebook battery in 30 min. there are some tweak to notebooks? [11:52] spooge (n=spooge@173-18-193-232.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [11:52] hmm I don't think slacky.eu supports rsync others than for development purposes (judging by rsync slacky.eu:: [11:52] I created sym links due to space. If I did not specify the full path then rsync would fail. [11:52] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) left irc: "leaving" [11:52] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:53] bigpaws: rsync doesn't fail. it copies the symlink [11:53] So if I made the link file1 file2 then rsync would not follow the link [11:53] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [11:53] again, rsync copies that _symlink_ [11:53] If I made the linh /home/me/file1 /home/me/file2 it ran fine [11:53] sp linh/link [11:54] spooge (n=spooge@173-18-193-232.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:54] bigpaws: as ananke stated it copies the symlinks.. however if the location the symlink is copying doesn't exist on the server you are rsyncing to.. it'll point to a non-existent location [11:54] Action: ananke is rsyncing few machines as we speak. thank god for rsync [11:55] I moved files on the server from location one to location two. [11:55] Not from server to server [11:55] Server 1 ran out of room [11:55] bigpaws: doesn't matter [11:55] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:55] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-245-109-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:55] symlinks are still copied... [11:56] pmvalente (n=pmvalent@a213-22-60-203.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [11:56] bigpaws: I have used rsync both locally, and over networks. it always copied the symlinks (as it should) [11:56] I must have not made myself clear [11:56] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-245-109-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:56] bigpaws: i'm not sure what's the issue here. are you asking a question? do you have a problem you need solving? [11:56] Rsync was not seeing the link on the backup server as the real fie [11:57] and.. it won't [11:57] spooge (n=spooge@173-18-193-232.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [11:57] because a symlink is not a file. it's a symlink [11:57] unless you tell rsync to copied referenced data [11:57] which iirc is -L [11:57] bigpaws, liitleears [11:57] *little [11:57] Zordrak: i see what you did there :) [11:58] bigpaws: the typical approach of using rsync with -a option results in the behavior we're describing: copying symlinks as symlinks, not 'following them' [11:58] Right, which I use without a problem [11:59] again, are you describing a problem to us? [11:59] are you asking for assistance, or you're just telling us a story about your rsync experience? [11:59] Yes [11:59] to both [12:00] bigpaws: wait, are you saying that 1) you created a symlink to a file on the *backup server* 2) started rsync to push/pull to the backup server and now the symlink is overwritten with a real file? [12:00] Action: ananke gives up [12:00] BP{k}: Yes [12:00] bigpaws: you need to provide us with more detail, _especially_ the set of options you used with rsync [12:01] The options are rsync -avz. I tried using K and L switches without success on my tests [12:01] fred (n=fred@slamd64/fred) left irc: "leaving" [12:02] adeodatus (n=RF@92.85.24.182) joined ##slackware. [12:02] cathectic (n=cathecti@slamd64/cathectic) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:03] uhmm, what BP{k} said seems to negate what you want to do. do you want to copy the referenced file, or the symlink? [12:04] btw, unless you're doing it across a slow link, -z option can be safely skipped. chances are it would slow down the operation [12:04] There are old files on the backup server, which I needed to move due to space. So I moved those files and created a symlink to the new location. [12:05] Hermann (n=Hermannn@m90-137-87-251.cust.tele2.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:05] you're not answering my question at all [12:05] oahong (n=user@unaffiliated/samigarus) left irc: "aɆ^^" [12:07] The files were being moved on the server no where else. Rsyncs involvement was seeing the symlink on the server for the reference file of the original [12:07] Please forgive my clearity. [12:08] you're not clarifying anything. i asked a simple question: what do you want to transfer - referenced files, or symlinks? [12:08] you're simply narrating a story to us [12:09] The transfer was complete along time ago, these are old files. [12:10] Action: BP{k} goes for coffee. [12:10] So I am trying to reference the new symlinks on the server [12:10] i think my lunch will be more productive than this [12:10] ananke: agreed [12:10] ananke: certainly more fulfilling. ;) [12:11] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@81.193.23.107) joined ##slackware. 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[12:40] grep -i vme /proc/cpuinfo [12:41] grep -i svm /proc/cpuinfo [12:41] What is the SVM flag? [12:41] amd's version [12:42] ahh [12:42] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [12:42] mr_patterson: but this is not the place to ask. [12:42] mr_patterson: perhaps if you had slackware as the host, but you dont. [12:43] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:43] svm returns nothing, vme returns "fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx sse sse2 constant_tsc up pni monitor" [12:43] tocardise (n=colonel@93.0.199.30) joined ##slackware. [12:44] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "cliente|reuniao" [12:44] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:44] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A748BC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] you have an intel cpu, and it has virtual machine extensions [12:44] Yep. [12:44] poofo (i=poof@195.226.161.149) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [12:44] congrats [12:45] Superb. Next up, do you have enough cores to dedicate 2 to vbox? [12:45] sloinn_ (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-hduasgenvwccvruz) joined ##slackware. [12:45] y0 [12:45] eviljames: My understanding is that an assignment of two or more cores doesn't necessarily mean that they're dedicated. [12:46] eviljames: I always thought it meant Virtualbox has access to the two or more cores. [12:46] you need at least 2 cores [12:46] for what? [12:46] spook: he said above c2d [12:47] hi, the UTC driven time isn't right [12:47] sloinn_: sync the clock [12:47] I'm not sure why, but I was of the impression that vbox would attempt to reserve the cores, meaning to dedicate N cores to virtual machines, you would want N+1 cores in your system [12:48] no. [12:48] vastina (i=jaird@64.215.163.99) joined ##slackware. [12:48] Good to know. [12:49] poofo (i=poof@195.226.161.149) joined ##slackware. [12:49] what you need a VM with two dedicated cores for? [12:49] I chose timezone for Prague, and it is 2 hours late...but there seems to be no option for changing...if you right-click the time and digital clock setting, you may pick another time zone, but whatever I choose..it stays the same [12:50] sloinn_: Did you tell the installer that your system clock is UTC or Local time? [12:50] UTC [12:50] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [12:50] and chose prague time zone [12:50] And is your system clock on UTC or local time? [12:51] UTC [12:51] ntp ? [12:52] Action: BP{k} notes that time set for the system != time set in whatever DE/WM you use. [12:53] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: "No Ping reply in 90 seconds." [12:53] eviljames: no, hwclocl --utc shows the right time [12:53] Nick change: |alisonken1churc -> alisonken1home [12:54] BP{k}: Good angle, I hadn't thought of that. [12:54] sloinn_: Regional settings / time zone in KDE? [12:54] you can use hwclock --systohc or hwlock --hctosys to syn time in the direction you wish. [12:55] there is only Regional & language a there you may set the format of it ..not the value [12:55] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [12:55] Then it is actually in the context menu of the clock iteslf [12:55] (ugh, I'm using gnome right now so can't give you step-by-step instructions) [12:56] tocardise (n=colonel@93.0.199.30) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet?" [12:57] alpha1 (n=alpha@93.45.48.67) joined ##slackware. [12:57] yes, but only to pick the timezone....whatever I pick the time stays the same 2 hours later... [12:57] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: Client Quit [12:57] Tocardise (n=Tocardis@30.199.0-93.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [12:58] it started with the public release...the RC versions were ok as far as this issue [12:59] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [12:59] So, I dunno. Mine's the Duo, not the Solo. [12:59] I wouldn't care if the KDE clocks were driven by $hwclock --set --date "11/17/2009" --utc .... but they are not [13:00] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:01] antiwire: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/ha7ZiJ55.html [13:02] Nick change: Tocardise -> slack13_on_fit_p [13:02] nheco (n=nheco@201-89-186-233.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [13:02] chopp: awesome thanks [13:02] according to them all over the world it's 17:03 right now [13:03] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [13:03] hey, slackers any suggestion for a good twitter client for kde 3.5, something likes choqok - its work for kde 4 only- ? [13:03] its working for kde 4 only! [13:03] antiwire: and you'll also be interested in part 1 and 3: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8095 [13:05] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: "No Ping reply in 90 seconds." [13:05] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.130.241) joined ##slackware. [13:05] anybody tried dual booting Vista-Slack? [13:06] i'm still tryin to get neighbor to abandon vista; it's messing with his user accounts; wont let him change a passwd [13:06] hi [13:06] alpha1: yeah works fine [13:06] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [13:07] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [13:07] alpha1, i have that [13:07] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [13:07] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:07] and he wanted to rm a account but then i said that when he does vista rm's all the user's data; then he tells me "well that's the acocount with my school work-study stuff [13:07] i htink he's alittle anonyed [13:07] Kamel (n=1@68-242-58-32.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: [13:08] so nothing challeging to get 'em ... [13:08] working... [13:08] alpha1: install vista first [13:08] ew [13:08] right [13:08] though really, install windows 7 instead [13:08] muuuuuch better than vista [13:09] so.... [13:09] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: Client Quit [13:10] Forget both of those crappos, install Haiku instead. [13:10] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [13:10] lol. [13:11] ,iiiiick better tja, beps [13:11] err, muuuuch better than beos [13:12] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: Client Quit [13:12] thrice`, i just got a captcha on slashdot with the word thrice [13:13] lol` [13:13] i can imagine how challenging a 6 letter word must have been for you jeev :( [13:13] did your mom come type it in or smthng? [13:13] did ur mom * [13:14] thrice`: yes, i did ur mom [13:14] hahahahahahahahaha, oh wait [13:14] [ in bed ] [13:14] [die] [13:14] heh [13:15] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-95-219.ip38.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [13:15] actually thrice`, i added "isgay" and it went through [13:15] Cette conversation me fait chier. [13:15] hm, weird [13:15] poofo (i=poof@195.226.161.149) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:16] I thought I asked them to fix it :( [13:16] http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage/ [13:16] that's so hot [13:16] Seagate ST31500341AS 1.5TB Barracuda 7200.11 SATA 3Gb/s 3.5? .. eww!! [13:16] mmm [13:16] Target still has big usb-hd for discount sale [13:16] eww, sil chipsets [13:17] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [13:17] Nick change: slack13_on_fit_p -> tocardise [13:18] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:19] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:19] westol (n=bnguyen@118.71.129.211) left irc: "leaving" [13:20] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:20] poofo (i=poof@195.226.161.149) joined ##slackware. [13:20] sloinn_ (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-hduasgenvwccvruz) left irc: "Page closed" [13:20] That's some serious storage space there! [13:20] keres (i=keres@ppp-70-249-66-3.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-95-219.ip38.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:22] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:23] what's CTPC stands for [13:23] maybe ctcp? [13:23] Client-to-Client-Protocol.. [13:23] howdy BP{k} [13:23] assuminghe typo'd as i asked... [13:23] CTPC == Center for Tropical Plant Conservation (Florida) [13:23] i have no idea what ctpc is [13:23] fire|bird: howdy :) [13:23] vovk (n=Vovk@wks42725.uws.ualberta.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:24] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [13:24] or client to protocol, client [13:25] ctcp version [13:25] then bpk's answer is the winner. bpk please collect your prize @ the end of the day [13:25] Client-To-Client Protocol [13:25] i guess [13:25] alpha1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Client-To-Client_Protocol .. imagine what you can find out through google. [13:26] y0 people [13:26] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [13:26] just done thanks [13:26] petterah (n=petter@static243-165-178.adsl.no) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:26] I had this idea of using a usb stick to boot a NFS root [13:26] is this the correct place to get help with slapt-get? :) [13:26] thoughts? [13:26] vovk, not really [13:26] maybe [13:26] slackboy, any suggestions? [13:27] vovk, you might ask who else uses it here. and be patient to see if anyone does. else hit the forums? [13:27] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-95-219.ip38.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [13:27] like insert a slackware usb boot stick and tell the kernel the address of the NFS where / is [13:27] ok [13:27] vovk: #slapt-get. [13:27] vovk, use slackpkg [13:27] slapt-get -u >> update [13:27] slackytude: hmm I suppose it technically possible. [13:27] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: No route to host [13:28] slackytude, the distro i'm using is actually only based on slackware, i just thought that i could maybe get some help here :) i'll try #slapt-get tho [13:29] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: "No Ping reply in 90 seconds." [13:29] vovk, heh [13:29] slapt-get -h or --help [13:29] vovk: usually the best place is to use your own distro channel [13:29] There's such a channel as #slapt-get? :P [13:29] alpha1, btw, the issue is that slapt-get -u is failing and can't find package sources, even though i can reach the sites in a browser [13:29] BP{k}, I thought so too, the howtos seem straightforward, just wondering if somebody has hands on experience [13:29] mr_patterson: apperantly :) [13:29] yes there is #slapt-get! it's got 5 people :D [13:29] srry... 3 now [13:29] and 1 bot [13:30] vovk: what distro are you actually running things on? [13:30] vovk: Do it the old fashioned way. [13:30] nano /etc/slaptgetrc....or something like that and uncomment [13:30] mr_patterson: old fashioned way, you mean like .....install slackware? [13:30] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [13:30] # ftp you like [13:30] BP{k}, i'm in sorcerer, chrooted into wolvix. the packages i'm downloading with slapt-get are kernel headers so that i can compile that stupid broadcom driver hehe [13:31] sorcerer? wolvix? [13:31] Action: slackytude is out of touch [13:31] sorcerer, an old source based distro that i happen to like :) [13:31] wolvix, a slackware 12 derived distro [13:31] BP{k}: Oh, that's right. He's not on Slackware. I was going to suggest downloading / compiling packages himself and installing them using the tools provided in Slackware, but he's on a different distro. [13:31] mr_patterson, so far, slackware guides have worked perfectly with wolvix... [13:32] and it's not even a distro based problem [13:32] it's a problem with slapt-get... [13:32] jinro (n=jinro@c-67-186-216-208.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [13:32] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: Client Quit [13:32] actually, I think I saw sorcerer before [13:33] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [13:33] slackytude, it came out around the same time as gentoo, but suffered massive fragmentation in it's dev team [13:33] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:d3) joined ##slackware. [13:33] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [13:33] I like their theme [13:33] anyway. if i were using slackware, how would i get the header files to 2.6.27.9? [13:33] duthac (n=chatzill@FUSE-DEDICATED-66-161-181-131.fuse.net) joined ##slackware. [13:34] from kernel.org ? [13:34] vovk, a simple sbopkg [13:34] would do it [13:34] slackytude, it's actually a pretty tight distro... but the user base is non-existent, so I've actually been treating it more like linux from scratch than anything :P tho it's nice when the "magic" system works [13:34] slapt-get -search "blah blah" [13:34] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-181-68-208.lns9.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [13:34] slapt-get argh [13:34] alpha1, slapt-get --search works. I found out the package name. but it won't update, and it won't install >.< [13:34] slapt-get uninstall slapt-get [13:34] lawl [13:34] thre's a reason why Slackware 12.2 and above comes with slackpkg folks [13:35] y0 Reverend Dominian [13:35] vovk, pat packages both the kernel and its headers for "distrib" kernels [13:35] slackytude: What is up my child? [13:35] cause you got restriction [13:35] sorcerer .. why does that sound "I put on my robe and wizard hat" ;) [13:35] vovk: Well, "Wolvix" is a cool sounding name. [13:35] hey! i have slackpkg [13:35] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-137-1.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [13:35] in your /etc/slaptgetrc to do that [13:35] Dominian, not much, except this 60MB word file I have to maintain. its the devil [13:35] wth [13:35] 60MB!? [13:35] because restriction [13:35] yeah, got pictures [13:36] lots and lots of them [13:36] slackytude: If it isn't loaded with pictures.. there's probably cruft left over.. there's some vbscript you can run to correct that.. however, I dont remember what it is :) [13:36] slackytude, reduce the size of them [13:36] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: Client Quit [13:36] I was planing on converting it to latex somehow [13:36] alpha1, what restrictions? I'm looking at the file now and It's kinda small.. will pastebin [13:36] but my latex-fu is weak [13:36] y0 LnxSlck. Afraid Im under orders [13:37] slackytude, k [13:37] this is the way the word file has *always* been kept [13:37] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [13:38] go www.slacky.eu check repository for slapt-get and have a look at that [13:38] fyi slapt-get is not official supported by Slackware nor this channel. [13:38] So bear that in mind when thinking about using it. [13:38] #slapt-get [13:38] should go there [13:39] Heh... He's not on Slackware. Period. [13:39] yep [13:39] blackthorne (n=bthorne@unaffiliated/blackthorne) left irc: [13:39] mr_patterson: who isn't? [13:39] and what did I miss then? hehe [13:39] alpha1, http://pastebin.com/d4081ff5d here's the rc file [13:39] Dominian: can you help me with yum? [13:39] Dominian: vovk :) [13:39] :D [13:39] Reticenti: haha [13:39] vovk: what OS are you on? [13:39] Dominian: or the slack equivalant slum [13:39] lol [13:40] vovk: If you need help with slapt-get you need to move your conversation concerning it to #slapt-get [13:40] Wolvix, based on slackware 12 I think. slackpkg works so if i can do the same thing with that as slapt-get i would be happy [13:40] thanks [13:40] vovk: Based on doesn' tmean its supported here. [13:40] Just an FYI. [13:40] yeah, i know :( but i can hope. to be honest, i really don't care HOW i get the package [13:40] slackpkg is your best bet [13:40] vovk: then why not compile from source? [13:40] slackware guides work well with this distro [13:41] why not get the headers from kernel.org? [13:41] slackytude, i was asking the folks in #linux about that and they told me to use the package manager with the distro. heh. so if i get them from kernel.org, errm [13:41] vovk: Eh.. [13:41] can i just put the headers in the correct directories? a [13:41] Nick change: Quiznos -> PurpleSmurf [13:42] the guys in ##linux mostly use Debian-based distros iirc ;) [13:42] so the method to their madness most of the time does not apply to slackware [13:42] Dominian: wait, slack isnt debian? [13:42] :P [13:42] ! a revelation :P [13:42] Reticenti: crap.. I let the cat out of the bag! [13:42] Dominian: ffffffuuuuuuuuu [13:42] poofo (i=poof@195.226.161.149) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:42] vovk, there should be plenty of docs about that. probably on sme LFS site or so [13:42] ok [13:43] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [13:43] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@net-93-64-78-194.cust.dsl.vodafone.it) joined ##slackware. [13:43] you basically put all relevant stuff in /usr/include if memory serves [13:44] Dominian, you have some knowledge about a diskless linux using NFS root? [13:44] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [13:44] uh no [13:44] ;) [13:44] I tried to compile Madwifi 0.9.4 for Slackware 13 - errored out. Any direction I should look for resolve? (Alien Bob compiled some for 12.2) [13:45] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-dkkkboqvotdjwjbs) left irc: [13:45] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.174.192.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [13:45] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Client Quit [13:45] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Connection timed out [13:45] 0.9.4 will not work against recent kernels w/o patching. [13:45] use a more recent svn version [13:46] Ahhh, ok, thanks [13:46] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Client Quit [13:46] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [13:46] np [13:46] Kamel (n=1@68-242-58-32.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:46] Pa^2: which kernel are you on? [13:46] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [13:46] I think the problem isn't slapt-get or even slapt-pkg. i think the university's wireless is fubared >.< thx for your help slackware people, even though I technically don't use your distro [13:47] 6.29.6-smp [13:47] 6 series, eh? [13:47] Action: slackytude is out of touch [13:47] Pa^2: are you looking for AP/master mode? [13:47] Pa^2: ath5k might work fine for you. [13:47] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Client Quit [13:48] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: "No Ping reply in 90 seconds." [13:48] Pa^2: for just client mode, ath5k should be fine [13:48] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [13:48] antiwire, thanks, I will give that a try. [13:48] Pa^2: you might want to check out this forum thread ---> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/solved-slackware-13.0-and-compiling-madwifi-0.9.4-754947/ [13:48] ath5k seems to have been under some heavy development during those kernel minors., many folks seem to complain about dropped connections [13:49] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [13:49] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Client Quit [13:49] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [13:49] neonflux, great link... thanks [13:50] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:50] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-0-81-60.leed.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:51] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [13:53] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: "No Ping reply in 90 seconds." 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[14:03] I normally use xine [14:03] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:03] as I haven't gotten around to trying out mplayer [14:03] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:04] mplayer ...i installed the slackbuild and now i can play stuff in my browser [14:04] shocked o_o [14:04] mplayer or vlc. There doesn't seem to be a slackbuild for vlc, though. [14:04] this kind've stuff is not supposed to work in linux, lol [14:04] vlc [14:04] is that what the best buy employees told you? [14:04] Nick change: PurpleSmurf -> Quiznos [14:04] read it on linuxhater blog [14:05] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:05] Ok, results are in: 2 out of 3 Slackware users agree: Noatun is the best player around. :P [14:05] lol . . . [14:05] Oh wait, alienBob has packages. [14:05] hahaha [14:05] noatun could be better than the dragon player ...? the thing that comes with kde4 ? ...hmm maybe a tie [14:07] mr_patterson, vlc [14:08] adamk_, i also have a package for it [14:08] right after the best buy msft talking points leaked where they claim linux doesn't do well with security updates, msft announces they won't patch the tcp/ip vuln of 2000 and xp [14:08] heh [14:08] and for something great songbird [14:08] if I do use mplayer then I like smplayer as a frontend to mplayer [14:09] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:09] neonflux: Yeah, smplayer is very nice. [14:10] nice, it says smplayer remembers settings per file :-) [14:10] mancha: msft? [14:11] fhobia: That it does.... volume, position, etc. [14:11] alpha1 (n=alpha@93.45.48.67) left ##slackware. [14:11] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [14:11] http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=MSFT [14:12] Oh, hahah. [14:14] i have extract hugesmp.s and initrd.img from usb-and-pxe-installers [14:14] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: "No Ping reply in 90 seconds." [14:14] is possible boot with loadlin this kernel image? [14:15] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [14:15] usb-and-pxe-installers/usbboot.img [14:15] * [14:15] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:15] jake (n=jake@84.13.57.127) joined ##slackware. [14:16] how does a wireless usb adapter work in linux? do i have to hope the drivers are built into the kernel? i have looked around and they all seem to be mixed with "it works" and "it doesnt work" [14:16] depends on the chipset [14:17] so the kernel has support for certain chipsets built in? is that distro dependant? [14:17] also a lot of hw makers for these things are now putting a little pengiun on their boxes [14:18] there are a few cases: a) mainlined driver in kernel, b) proprietary driver available or c) sol [14:18] none is distrib-dependent [14:18] here's a question then... what is sol? :D [14:19] i know it seems simple mancha, but i appreciate the help :) [14:19] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-95-219.ip38.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:19] i guess i should add a2) non-mainlined open driver available [14:19] sol=shit outta luck [14:19] it amazes me how much they can fit in the kernel and keep it so small [14:21] i feel guilty asking questions in the slackware channel for a decent answer while using ubuntu :S [14:21] poofo (i=poof@195.226.161.149) joined ##slackware. [14:21] you should [14:21] :P [14:21] Anthony_Honstain (n=Anthony@c-98-247-28-134.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:21] _guitarm1n_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [14:21] vuln (n=vuln@unaffiliated/vuln) joined ##slackware. [14:21] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-94-42-6-129.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:21] jake: are you switching to slackware? [14:22] agentc0re|work, i feel like i should more and more [14:22] Hello there. I was used to enjoy Slackware in older versions which I might need just a few CDs to install without KDEI for example. I'm not sure about how it's going now so which CDs (from 1-6) MUST I download to install it properly? [14:22] do some sudoku first to wake up the neurons that ubuntu might have lulled to sleep :) [14:22] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-154-166.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:23] For Slackware 13.0 [14:23] vuln, you need the first 2 cds i believe [14:23] mr_patterson_ (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-brrutwsmwukffzaf) joined ##slackware. [14:24] mr_patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-afcvisravoolbniw) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [14:24] Nick change: mr_patterson_ -> mr_patterson [14:24] LnxSlck Do you have any source wher I can read about the CDs contents? [14:24] tooly (n=tooly@e178145129.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [14:24] where* [14:24] Nick change: mr_patterson -> Nick_Patterson [14:25] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@209.121.157.169) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [14:25] hrmmm, didn't some file on the source mirrors give the CD layout or do i misremember? [14:25] Nick change: _guitarm1n_ -> _guitarman_ [14:25] :-) my slack cds just arrived [14:26] fhobia: :D [14:26] vuln: Contents of the Slackware CD set? If so, then on the website. [14:26] Man-erg (n=meck@93.40.95.219) joined ##slackware. [14:27] mancha: either that and/or listed on the website. [14:28] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [14:28] agent, ok, i knew i wansn't dreaming this up [14:28] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) joined ##slackware. [14:29] Nick_Patterson I read the whole website and there's nothing like that there :( [14:29] poofo (i=poof@195.226.161.149) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:29] Nick_Patterson I want the Slackware CDs content organized by EACH CD [14:29] What's the first CD content [14:29] What's the second CD content [14:29] gotcha? [14:30] i think the cd cover changed this time... i think [14:30] you cant look [14:30] So I would know which CDs I need to install. [14:30] question: I need to enable CONFIG_LDM_PARTITION in the linux kernel... I am wondering if its possible to just uncomment this out in /boot/config without recompiling the kernel? [14:30] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: Client Quit [14:30] i somewhat doubt it... figured I'd ask [14:31] vuln: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php [14:31] vuln: http://www.slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php [14:31] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [14:31] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [14:31] vuln-- [14:31] Nick_Patterson chopp Really thanks [14:31] And I'm sorry for haven't seen that. [14:32] I just need the first three cds, but I can get just the first two today and enjoy KDE tomorrow :) [14:32] makes your "gotcha?" sarcasm seem kinda "open mouth; insert foot" now [14:32] eh? [14:32] no [14:32] anybody? =) [14:32] mancha: Lol [14:32] Gotcha - know what I mean? [14:32] :D [14:33] vuln: It's actually, "get me?" [14:33] vuln: "gotcha" is when you've understood something. [14:33] poofo (i=poof@195.226.161.149) joined ##slackware. [14:33] Nick_Patterson I thought It might be used as an interrogative sentence as well. [14:34] vuln: There's nothing interrogative about "gotcha" [14:34] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:34] sorry then :) [14:34] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: Client Quit [14:35] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Connection timed out [14:35] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [14:36] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [14:37] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:37] Nick change: g4tt0 -> g4tty0 [14:38] fnord0 no [14:38] mancha, thankx [14:38] vuln, you're better off just buying the dvd from the slack store [14:38] the config parameters are used at compile time to add or not certain code [14:38] mancha, i figured, just wanted to get someone else's impression [14:39] changing the config after coimpiledoes nothing to the kernel [14:39] lol. [14:39] mancha, makes complete sense [14:39] LnxSlck It would be a nice choice if I could get it still today :) [14:39] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.174.192.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:39] I bought a machine without any OS and I would like to start using it today [14:39] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [14:39] vuln, download today buy tomorrow [14:40] vuln, it helps ;) [14:40] fnord0, yep, sorry for the bad news, go wak your dog while the thing compiles [14:40] vuln: http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0-iso/ if you look in there the .txt file show what exists on each ISO. This is in an odd place but it tells you which CD's you would need. http://www.slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php [14:40] LnxSlck That's what I prolly am going to do :) [14:40] blackthorne (n=bthorne@unaffiliated/blackthorne) joined ##slackware. [14:40] vuln, nice.. do buy the penguin [14:40] it's great [14:40] agentc0re|work thanks :) [14:40] jake_ (n=jake@78.146.219.217) joined ##slackware. [14:40] LnxSlck I'm sorry? [14:41] mancha: http://www.slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php it's weird, i could only find that on this page. still searching through some readme's though. I always thought it was listed in a few different places.. [14:41] vuln, http://store.slackware.com/cgi-bin/store/slackdoll?id=A4Q5kBP2:mv_pc=77 [14:41] jake (n=jake@84.13.57.127) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:42] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: Client Quit [14:42] LnxSlck I don't use Slackware 'cause it runs Linux (penguin) [14:42] Nick change: g4tty0 -> g4tt0 [14:42] Actually, I would prefer if it was using another kernel :) [14:42] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:42] k [14:43] Alan_Hicks (n=alan@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [14:43] Oh, just now I saw the product details. [14:43] I CERTAINLY would buy if it was a GNU saying something about slackware :) [14:43] vuln: you should also read the changlog, release notes and changes and hints.txt before upgrading to 13.0 lots of stuff has changed. [14:43] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [14:43] agentc0re I've already done all of it [14:43] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [14:43] mancha, so to ENABLE NTFS dynamic disk support in slack64 13.0 - goto /usr/src/linux -- make menuconfig, enable CONFIG_LDM_PARTITION, save, make && make install && make modules && make modules_install [14:43] Just left to read changes and hints [14:43] Hello cruel world [14:43] The ftp got its limit when I tried. [14:44] mancha, i been a longtime slackware user, just wanna make sure compiling a kernel on slackware64 13.0 is similar to the earlier slackware distros? [14:44] zoztrix (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:44] thats not distrib dependente [14:44] mancha, k [14:45] the kernel makefile dictates the make;make modules_install stuff. you're good to go [14:45] what is this NTFS dynamic disk thing? [14:45] mancha, perfect [14:45] some windows things [14:45] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: Client Quit [14:45] instead of BASIC disk, its called dynamic disk [14:45] basically, the windows version of lvm [14:46] ah ok. [14:46] "Windows 2000 introduced the concept of Dynamic Disks to get around the limitations of the PC's partitioning scheme. The Logical Disk Manager allows the user to repartition a disk and create spanned, mirrored, striped or RAID volumes, all without the need for rebooting." [14:46] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) joined ##slackware. [14:46] so this disk has been carefully prepared by our loveable msft folks and you wanna put a slack on this windows-made partition? [14:46] lol. [14:46] vbatts (n=vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] PiterPun1 (n=piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] XGizzmo (n=XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:46] rworkman (n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:47] PiterPunk (n=piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Success [14:47] vbatts_ (n=vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:47] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:47] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/Dominian) joined ##slackware. [14:47] mancha, exactly... i cant mount it using slackware 64 13.0's default config with linux smp kernel 2.6.29.6 [14:47] i get it, year if that's the kernel parameter, just do what you said....if the config file is already there then it'll be a matter of tweaking that one param [14:47] mancha, thanks for all the help! [14:47] where on earth is the dvd iso for slack-13? [14:47] torrent [14:47] huh [14:47] fnord0, no problem [14:47] peas out... time to recompile the kernel! [14:48] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) left irc: "IRC is just multiplayer notepad" [14:48] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.27.70) left irc: Client Quit [14:48] jake_: in your desk drawer? [14:48] only 12-1 hiding in there [14:49] i am browsing the ftp and its a mess :P [14:49] use .torrent download [14:49] on the floor? [14:49] in your dvdrom tray! [14:49] ...with Wally? [14:50] im putting ubuntu away now... time for slackware fun and games [14:50] thrice` (i=thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:51] thrice` (i=thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) joined ##slackware. [14:51] XGizzmo (n=XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [14:51] good [14:51] Alan_Hic1s (n=alan@216.23.247.74) joined ##slackware. [14:52] Nick change: Alan_Hic1s -> Alan_Hicks [14:53] rworkman (n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman) joined ##slackware. [14:54] i should have asked this question like 10 years ago... but is it possible to delete highlighted text in a terminal [14:54] what [14:54] i don't know of any terminals with that fuctionality [14:54] Nick_Patterson_ (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-tycdhlvwsprevvke) joined ##slackware. [14:54] I dont think so [14:55] What. the fuck. [14:55] join #slackware_on_fitpv2 [14:55] well, in current command line yes, [14:55] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-brrutwsmwukffzaf) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [14:55] they would basically have to send a sequence of ^H to the underlying process to mimic you backspacing [14:55] Try clear. [14:55] oups [14:55] Nick change: Nick_Patterson_ -> Nick_Patterson [14:56] keres (i=keres@ppp-70-249-66-3.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:56] and thats only for the current cursor position, if you highlight something aboe that is now part of the scroll then deleting it is sort of "wtf is he thinking" you know? [14:57] HoldMyPocket: Run the "screen" command, and every time you need to delete this high-lighted text, simply press CTRL-A, C. [14:57] That always works. [14:57] Alan_Hicks: hahaha [14:57] hahaha [14:57] Alan_Hicks: hahaha [14:58] it is like deleting some highlighted text in an IRC window [14:58] Alan_Hicks: i'm still laughing [14:58] Alan_Hicks thanks [14:58] you can't an it is even worse when it is logged like here. every dumb thing you say is recorded for people to laugh at forever ;) [14:58] that's so wonderful [14:59] just in a line: you cannot undo past [15:00] i just mean in my current cli [15:00] good bye [15:00] like if im styping ssh jack@whatever.com and i wanna delete 'whatever' and put a new address [15:00] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:00] HoldMyPocket: Oh! That's much easier! [15:01] Look on your keyboard. Just above the big key on the right hand side that says "Enter" you should see a slightly smaller key that says "Backspace". [15:01] yeah welll that only deletes one character [15:01] LoL [15:01] lol [15:01] i don't know of any terminal that has that, it requires you sending ^H to the shell and so forth and then remembering the stuff after the replacement [15:02] HoldMyPocket: luckily, you can press it more than once [15:02] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:02] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [15:02] saying that it simply wasn't possible to do would have sufficed [15:02] but okay [15:02] for a significant fee, i'll patch xterm for you [15:02] CcSsNET (n=user@98.216.137.1) joined ##slackware. [15:02] What's considered significant? :P [15:03] too much for your piggy bank [15:03] For a slightly more significant fee, I'll hold your hand so you feel comfortable hitting the backspace key more than once. [15:03] You meanies! [15:03] :D [15:03] I got a tooth ache. I got a right to be mean today. [15:04] that's cute [15:04] you'd have to hold the current command in a sort of buffer that can be easily editted before it gets sent to the pty [15:04] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [15:04] Brushing regularly should help with that. :P [15:04] Hold i don't think such functionality is out there...but you never know [15:04] my neice gets cranky too [15:04] shadowx (n=7350@93.183.131.3) left irc: "Killed (rox (Requested by panasync))" [15:05] Nick_Patterson: Really? I didn't know that. Should I use toothpaste when I brush as well? Can I brush more than once a day? [15:05] alt-backspace is pretty useful [15:05] erik: thanks [15:06] Alan_Hicks: Oh, most definitely, but try to use an abrasive substitute for toothepaste. [15:06] Then, no teeth, no pain. :P [15:06] Jiraia_ (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:767) joined ##slackware. [15:06] Nick_Patterson: Well, I could just snatch 'em out with pliars. That would be much faster. [15:06] i hear they give you automatic british citizenship then [15:07] You know that's really not fair. [15:07] jake_ (n=jake@78.146.219.217) left irc: Connection timed out [15:07] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [15:07] I've known several British people and every one of them's tooth was straight. [15:07] Alan_Hicks: dont forget to use morphine [15:08] mancha: Lol [15:08] jake_ (n=jake@89.241.153.163) joined ##slackware. [15:09] soooo many noobfarmable things [15:09] which one to submit first? [15:10] The one where adamk_ said, "check out alienBOB 's package." (....or something very close to that :) [15:10] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-20-51-11.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:11] First? Last? That doesn't matter. Just get them all submitted. [15:11] jinro (n=jinro@c-67-186-216-208.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:11] but i am le drunk [15:11] Really? Are you drunk a lot? [15:12] since i split up with my gf, yes [15:12] Alan_Hicks: you lie, i know several british people too and they have bad teeth [15:12] Alan_Hicks: I'm curious as to why you chose an informal tone for the Slackbook. [15:12] Ah. Send her to me. That should be sufficient payback for the bitch breakin' up with you. [15:12] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:12] Nick_Patterson: Cause I'm an informal guy. [15:12] lol [15:12] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@81.193.23.107) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:13] deco: You didn't get the joke. [15:13] lol [15:13] I agree Alan_Hicks should have used an infernal tone instead [15:13] Alan_Hicks: it was a mutual break up. i would thank you not to use such terms [15:13] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-134-165.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:13] Alan_Hicks: you didn't get mine either :P [15:13] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Connection timed out [15:13] Alan_Hicks IS Disco Inferno! [15:13] Slackware Linux Unleashed - Apocalypse Edition! [15:14] lol [15:14] The cover could be re-styled like the Necromonicon. [15:14] version 666 [15:14] slackware unleashed 2 - electric boogaloo [15:14] Slackware: The Definitive Guide [15:14] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC30B3E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:14] nice background scheme? [15:14] if you read the book backwards it says "Lucifer is my king" [15:14] Slackware Essentials 3 - The Definitive Guide to your Operating System and Defiling your Soul. [15:15] lol -- Slackware Linux: Magic On The Dance Floor [15:16] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:18] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [15:19] Alan_Hicks: will that include dating tips by straterr? ;) [15:20] BP{k}: self-dating tips only. [15:20] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:20] Alan_Hicks: at the end of the book, the very end, put "gnik ym si reficuL" [15:21] spook: Not happening. [15:21] I am planning to work on a Perl program which has a lot of static information that I need to access and compare it with the output from the network. Is there anyway to create a database file with the static information that cannot be modified? It is somewhat like a DLL in the Windows world. [15:21] Alan_Hicks: :( [15:22] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.29.85) joined ##slackware. [15:22] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:d3) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:22] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Connection timed out [15:22] kleanchap: I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to do. You may want to ask some place like ##perl. [15:23] Sorry, #perl. 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[15:30] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:31] somebody set us up the bomb [15:31] er, set up us [15:31] the awesomest miltary manuver ever: The Ackbar Slash [15:32] Alan_Hicks: When I asked earlier about the tone, I was being serious. Your response was serious as well? :) [15:32] Nick_Patterson: he should have an infernal tone yes [15:32] I have no idea what that means :) [15:32] oh dear [15:32] Nick_Patterson: Serious enough I reckon. I just like that style. [15:33] Alan_Hicks: Ok. [15:35] blackthorne (n=bthorne@unaffiliated/blackthorne) left irc: [15:35] spook: Robotech? [15:35] jinro: what [15:36] spook: nm that's star wars, right? [15:36] ^ .. your quote [15:36] jinro: Turn in your geek credentials AND you tie tack! [15:36] jinro: ... my mind puzzles as to why you would even need to ask [15:36] Alan_Hicks: I know, I know [15:37] spook: I wish I could take back that 30 seconds of my life [15:37] elderK (n=zk@122-57-241-160.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [15:37] well you can't [15:37] Action: jinro hangs his head in self-disgust [15:37] flog him! [15:38] And from now until the end of time the world will know how sad your life truly was. [15:38] Nick change: Jiraia_ -> jiraia [15:38] when it gets noobfarmed [15:38] no!!!!!!! [15:38] please, I'll do anything lmao [15:38] jake_ (n=jake@89.241.153.163) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:38] ...well, almost anything [15:38] jinro: anything? :P [15:38] Anything? [15:39] ANYTHING? [15:39] ^ see above (almost) [15:39] the keyword: ALMOST [15:39] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [15:39] Is this gonna be like one of those "What would you do for a Klondike bar?" moments? [15:39] hahaha [15:40] That reminds me of that one commercial (was it for Klondike?) The older guy says "I'm just glad I get a sensation" :P [15:41] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:41] ngworekara (n=ngworeka@70.112.177.214) left irc: "leaving" [15:41] I keep waiting for some television show to parady that with Crack addicts. [15:42] tooly (n=tooly@e178145129.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [15:42] heh [15:42] lol [15:42] In my defense, I've been watching Robotech: Macross again so that was heavy on my mind. There's a almost identical statement made by one of the characters during an attack. [15:42] "What would you do for a dime? Would you stand on your head?" "Uh-huh." "Would you smear melted chocolate all over your body?" "Uh-huh!" "Would you put his bag over your head and suck my cock?" [15:43] Alan_Hicks: ahaha [15:43] lol [15:43] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [15:43] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:46] obnauticus (n=l@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [15:46] What will you say to someone who has used Slackware until 11.1 about its improvements since this version until nowadays? [15:47] I would say he's a moron. [15:47] Wurm (n=celestia@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] Alan_Hicks: would you... uhhh, kill a man? [15:47] now now alan. [15:47] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.168.30) left irc: "Leaving." [15:47] Bob Saget sucked dick for coke [15:47] Slackers, I am in dire need of some assistance. Direct Rendering refuses to work. [15:48] Wurm (n=celestia@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:48] Wurm (n=celestia@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [15:48] SiegeX: That guy was so messed up though. His coke came in a plastic bottle with a red label. [15:48] And I accidently closed the chat. [15:48] Would anyone like to help me setup Direct Rendering? [15:48] Well open it back up. [15:49] i would call him a liar because there was no 11.1 [15:50] spook haha [15:50] 11.0 [15:52] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [15:54] vuln: newer packages. that's about it. [15:54] ananke I've been read some news about Slackware since I stop using it [15:55] But I guess I'm a bit loss about something that seem to be different [15:55] There's no default extension for slackware packages, anymore right? Instead just tgz, there's txz, etc [15:55] right? [15:56] that's the new default extension. [15:56] Which is .. [15:56] its a tar gz file. [15:56] because of the new compression algorythm [15:56] acidchild so? [15:56] vuln: you listed it: .txz [15:56] hum [15:56] But it remains a tar file gunziped? [15:56] How can I enable Direct Rendering in Slackware 13? [15:57] no [15:57] it uses lzma [15:57] no, you extract it O.o [15:57] .. [15:57] ¬¬ [15:57] what are the correct groups for a user [15:57] vuln: it's a compressed tar, but not with gzip. [15:57] installpkg foo.tgz? [15:57] O_o [15:57] meh [15:57] ananke I expected it, but its a tar gz file. [15:57] weird-os [15:57] dhw: users [15:57] that's what I was thinking [15:57] since all files are username:users [15:57] vuln: he must have been talking about your .tgz [15:57] Wurm: did you run X -configure then copy /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf [15:57] slacktrack is just a slackpkg but for SlackBuilds? [15:58] will users give me access to sudo [15:58] ananke sure. [15:58] ananke: indeed, did it come out _THAT_ bad? [15:58] dhw: visudo and adding your username will [15:58] practor (n=practor@170.85.81-79.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [15:58] Pig: Yes. [15:58] man my cpu temp is high [15:59] 71c [15:59] its 4am, too drunktired to help anymore, sleeping. [15:59] Action: spook & [15:59] hi spook :) [15:59] disown spook [15:59] now he is in never never land [15:59] who wants to clean my place? [15:59] kaot (n=jpb@97-80-124-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [15:59] ;d [15:59] dhw: The bright side is 71C is relatively low compared to the boiling point of water? [15:59] compiling seems to hurt it [15:59] Pig_Pen: How would I run X-Configure again? [15:59] it hit 100c a few days ago [15:59] shut down the system [16:00] I opened it up today and used canned air on it [16:00] noticed a large difference in temps already [16:00] DHarry (n=DHarry@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [16:00] run it as root or su from the console (i dont think that will run if X is running) [16:00] you might want to reseat the heatsink with new thermal compound [16:00] yeah, I plan on it. [16:00] Nick_Patterson: it's closer to boiling point of water than it's not, based on this imaginary and unspoken scale :) [16:00] I need to get some new paste [16:01] are we talking about at sea level or higher altitudes? [16:01] Pig_Pen: WHat's the exact command? I'm a total Linux newb xD. [16:01] X -configure [16:01] boiling point of water is almost entirely dependant on air pressure [16:01] because as we all know, the higher you are the less heat is needed to boil water :p [16:01] then cp /root/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf [16:01] Pig_Pen: Do I have to run in init 3? [16:01] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] Wurm, yes [16:01] cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf [16:01] Wurm: init 6 [16:01] yeah 3 [16:01] its the special init for changing X [16:01] Okay. [16:02] Yeah I know how to do that. [16:02] Um. [16:02] Should I back up my current Xconf? [16:02] sure [16:02] nah [16:02] Wurm, if you want :) [16:02] oh yes, when I start up my computer it loads lilo, but I get an error I have to enter the vga mode to run it on [16:02] I'll do it to be safe. [16:02] anyway, to not have to keep doing this? [16:02] I use 369 [16:02] Pig_Pen: WHat does the cp command do? [16:03] Change...? [16:03] Wurm, it copies :) [16:03] o.o [16:03] copy [16:03] slackbook ! [16:03] Oh okay. [16:03] Makes sense. [16:03] quasar: I haven' [16:03] Haven't had a chance to read it yet xD. [16:03] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:03] I'm going to boot in init 3 and try to fix my Direct Rendering. [16:03] xD. [16:03] dhw fix lilo.conf and run /sbin/lilo [16:03] Wurm, read some documentation... slackbook, slackware for dummies and something else :) [16:03] vga=369 is what is in my lilo.conf [16:04] change it to what works [16:04] 369 is what I manually enter each boot up [16:04] vga=773 in my lilo.conf :) [16:04] Rebooting, [16:04] Wurm (n=celestia@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left ##slackware. [16:04] why is he rebooting? [16:05] i use 792 which is 1024x768 @ 32 bits color [16:05] I can't remember the res mine is set at [16:06] 1680x1050 [16:06] 32bit [16:06] http://pastebin.com/m67594307 heres a table with all of them [16:06] madnex (n=madnex@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [16:06] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-23-107.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:07] thanks [16:07] 12d [16:08] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427592.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:08] zero0one (n=kvirc@ppp-94-64-198-94.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:08] Wurm... Mmm... [16:08] ElvisPresley (n=ElvisPre@200.139.122.80.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:09] hello folks [16:09] Elvis has entered the building ! [16:09] Hi ElvisPresley... [16:09] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:09] hi metrofox [16:09] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) joined ##slackware. [16:10] anyone knows a program like Delphi for linux? [16:10] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:10] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:10] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [16:11] ElvisPresley, Kylix? [16:11] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [16:12] Pascal? [16:12] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [16:12] yes with pascal integraded [16:12] ElvisPresley, take a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kylix_%28software%29 [16:13] kylix have not a new version [16:13] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:13] ElvisPresley, I know you haven't been around a while, but no one is using Pascal anymore. [16:13] ;) [16:13] lies.. :( [16:14] perhaps. [16:14] Action: quasar fixes jinro's statement [16:14] ElvisPresley: other than me, no one uses pascal anymore [16:14] lol [16:14] i downloades lazarus [16:14] actually, I haven't played with it in years lol [16:15] DirtyHarry (n=DHarry@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:15] but i could not install it [16:15] ElvisPresley, why? [16:15] last time I messed around with it was highscool.... and that was a few years ago. [16:15] ^ err school [16:15] i dont know [16:16] I hope I won't study that at school... Pascal is now story... [16:16] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:16] and actually.. are we talking about standard pascal? if so, then I've never done anything with it.. only TP [16:16] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [16:16] paissad-hp (n=paissad@86.76.56.20) joined ##slackware. [16:16] and i installed with installpkg but its don work [16:16] vuln (n=vuln@unaffiliated/vuln) left irc: [16:16] ElvisPresley, you've to know it instead :) Did it return an error? [16:16] ElvisPresley, what kind of error? [16:17] "doesn't work" is too generic... [16:17] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [16:17] just a min [16:18] ElvisPresley, I'm going nowhere :) [16:18] psyl0n (n=psyl0n@nat/ibm.br/x-wxhkaimspfmjwysp) joined ##slackware. [16:18] im on the phone [16:18] metrofox, that's a depressing statement. [16:18] ah... ;) [16:18] lol [16:18] lol [16:18] ;) [16:18] eheh [16:19] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:19] Action: rg3 throws metrofox's wallet through the window [16:19] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [16:19] now you're going somewhere ;D [16:19] rg3, I'm running now :D [16:21] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:21] WHOA, look at that, free money, catch it while you can. [16:21] Oh wait, that's just a candy wrapper, flase alarm folks. [16:21] fire|bird, where's Wurm? [16:21] metrofox: dang, you're broke huh? :P [16:22] I have no idea, maybe in some soil somewhere. [16:22] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:22] LOL [16:22] Just a guess though. :P [16:23] his last words: Rebooting, [16:23] ;( [16:23] Apparently he didn't make it. [16:23] ananke: That is is. (Closer to the boiling point than not) [16:23] maybe he forgot to type some command... [16:24] metrofox: maybe he's on the phone with ElvisPresley [16:24] sorry man [16:24] LOOL [16:24] help desk [16:24] metrofox: Well, that confirms it, he was helping Wurm. :P [16:25] ElvisPresley: that took a little while, you had us all shook up. :D [16:25] ahahah ;D [16:25] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: "Leaving" [16:25] ok metrofox i dont remember the msg [16:25] which one? [16:25] again on phone [16:25] haha, Wurm called back. :P [16:25] ahahahahah.... [16:26] was a little quite but now ... [16:26] DHarry (n=DHarry@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:26] now what? O.o [16:27] Nick change: t4ls0 -> talso [16:27] mayday-jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [16:27] the phone dont stop [16:27] just unplug it, lunch break. :P [16:27] throw it! [16:28] See ya later fire|bird [16:28] alpha (n=alpha@93-45-75-238.ip101.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [16:28] I'm not going anywhere. :P [16:28] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:29] uhm... [16:29] DHarry (n=DHarry@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [16:30] ok what do i was talking? [16:30] you tell us. :P [16:30] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:30] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@79.54.69.19) joined ##slackware. [16:31] ElvisPresley, the phone, again ;) [16:31] _bruno (n=bruno@siw2.rc.unesp.br) left irc: Client Quit [16:31] ok, well, on windows i use delphi, but here on linux i dont know a visual develpment programm [16:31] ops [16:31] psyl0n (n=psyl0n@nat/ibm.br/x-wxhkaimspfmjwysp) left irc: [16:32] development [16:32] Nick change: alpha -> ahpla [16:32] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [16:32] Nick change: ahpla -> jinji [16:32] understand? [16:33] mattus (n=mattus@207.118.57.192) joined ##slackware. [16:33] kldsff [16:33] ElvisPresley, you might look into Eclipse for as an IDE -- I think it has pascal/delphi plugins [16:33] im new to linux and just got Slackware on dvd [16:33] good choice!? [16:33] ...I wouldn't know though, I use VIM [16:33] Mary Travers died [16:33] mattus, yes [16:33] good good [16:34] thanks jinro [16:34] Pig_Pen: Who's that? [16:34] im looking for eclipse [16:34] must use the command line and become dah mahshta [16:34] mattus, and do you come here in a slackware chan to ask it? :D [16:34] she was the singer of the trio Peter Paul & Mary [16:34] mattus, what kind of answer did you expect in a slackware channel? [16:34] metrofox: well you see, this way i cannot lose. ;) [16:34] Pig_Pen: Ah, now I know who she is. [16:35] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:35] dios_mio (i=test@88.241.138.235) joined ##slackware. [16:35] i love slack!! [16:35] hrad_ (i=4e889142@gateway/web/freenode/x-btzqqdrauxeglhlv) joined ##slackware. [16:35] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [16:35] mancha: It's something how he downloaded the dvd and THEN asked if it was a good choice. :P [16:35] mattus, the best way to find out is to give her a whirl, you'l know soon enough if you and slack are a match [16:36] that guide on slackware.com, the one you can get pdf, is good? [16:36] im downloading eclipse [16:36] mattus, once alienbob said that there's no need to ask here about slackware's style because, if we use we consider it "the best" ;) [16:36] mancha, i see i see [16:36] mattus: yes [16:36] metrofox, understood [16:36] mattus, ;) [16:37] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [16:37] dimm0k (n=dimm0k@pool-71-183-184-58.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] sorry, *if we use it* [16:37] different distribs offer different advantages, it mostly depends what you need, want, feel comfortable with [16:37] *depends on [16:37] i have like 5 other distros and a unix on disc lol [16:37] zero0one (n=kvirc@ppp-94-64-198-94.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/" [16:38] metrofox, the msg of lazarus is "has not been created with makepkg" [16:38] LOL [16:38] that wasn't a slackware package, that was an archive ;) [16:38] *that isn't* I mean... [16:39] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: "êîãäà ÿ óìåð íåáûëî íèêîãî, êòî áû ýòî îïðîâåðã" [16:39] but it was installing with installpkg [16:39] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.124.229.10) joined ##slackware. [16:40] kaot (n=jpb@97-80-124-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) left irc: "leaving" [16:40] so the GUI should be your branch, and not your root, correct? meaning command line should be your foundation (coming from a Windows user since 3.1....don't hit me!!) [16:40] and have .tgz extension [16:40] practor (n=practor@170.85.81-79.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:40] could anybody please think off why my touchpad on laptop works in console, but not in X ? [16:40] ElvisPresley, tgz may also be an archive [16:41] ok [16:41] ElvisPresley, ;) [16:41] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:41] I'm using the same driver as in 12.2 and protocol "auto" [16:42] metrofox, this archive created a folder on / [16:42] now i need to compile i think [16:42] and that folder contains...? [16:42] ElvisPresley, move that folder somewhere else... [16:42] hrad_: if you're using an xorg.conf file, look at the "synaptics" driver option [16:42] everything what i need to compile [16:42] in your home [16:43] ok [16:43] maydayjay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [16:43] alisonken1home: thats my opinion too [16:43] alisonken1home: there's nothing like synaptics [16:44] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:44] catch me to tonight when I have my laptop up and I'll have a look (it's what I'm using on my laptop) [16:45] hrad_, do you run on slackware 13? [16:45] alisonken1home: ok, and Driver "mouse" is ok ? [16:45] Benjsh__ (n=benjsh@h140n1-m-sp-gr1.ias.bredband.telia.com) left irc: [16:45] hrad_: have to check my laptop (tonight) [16:46] right now it's past my bedtime [16:46] anyone in here use SATA/IDE to USB adapters? [16:47] ViN86 (i=1000@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-THIRTY-SIX.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [16:47] hrad_, I also read about touchpad Synaptics that this can also be configured by hal... [16:47] metrofox: that's why I mentioned "if you use an xorg.conf file ...) [16:47] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:48] hrad_: if you are using a synaptics touchpad, look at the changes_and_hints.txt doc on the slack install media..there's some instruckions on there for HAL config. [16:48] ok, i'll figure out [16:48] alisonken1home, ah sorry... ;) [16:48] well buy folks [16:48] thanks a lot for help me [16:48] dimm0k_ (n=dimm0k@pool-71-183-177-70.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:49] bye ElvisPresley [16:49] folks aren't for sale [16:49] lol [16:49] lol [16:49] wow...I missed alisonken1home's comment as well...I can't read AND type, I guess. [16:49] ElvisPresley (n=ElvisPre@200.139.122.80.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [16:49] Elvis has left the building [16:49] tocardise (n=Tocardis@30.199.0-93.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:50] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [16:50] uhmm... It was hard to read what ElvisPresley wrote... [16:51] ElvisPresley> well buy folks (you can buy folks now? i have not seen any at walmart) [16:51] atleast none for sale [16:51] alisonken1home: are you the one who was giving me the hints about the dualboot stuff ? [16:51] maybe ebay? [16:51] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Client Quit [16:52] hrad_: same [16:53] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:54] I couldn't thank you cause I got much more deeper to the shithole...after a put it into the 10Gigs bit /boot partition, the boot ended up with error message that the second phase of loading lilo got out of stack or what [16:54] *big [16:55] 10GB of /boot ? what for ? [16:55] eeehh... hiding something ? :| [16:56] he's linus torvalds :D [16:56] maybe he's got all his kernels there [16:56] mmm [16:56] kernel junkie ? :X [16:56] OR... that's a good place to hide porn... [16:57] elderK (n=zk@122-57-241-160.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: [16:57] :) extra parameters to the live CD and specifying boot partition make booting stuck for RC and also the newer slackware and I couldn't #lilo the changes made to the mounted partition in liveCd...chroot saved me [16:57] Who'd never check porn right there? :D [16:57] /boot/porn. amazing. [16:57] ahah [16:57] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:58] don't know but it got out of memory... :) [16:58] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:58] but I guess it was the master boot onw [16:58] one [16:59] I'm storing my porn to /proc [16:59] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-173.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:59] there it is save from my mummy [16:59] mayday-jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:00] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [17:01] would be amazing to store it on /dev then use udev when you need it. :X [17:01] jinro (n=jinro@c-67-186-216-208.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [17:02] /dev/goat [17:02] you forget se [17:02] Im shocked [17:03] eh... [17:03] have you enabled udev ? [17:03] don't worry, you're not alone.... [17:04] didn't Michael Jackson write that song? [17:04] anavel: me ? [17:06] what are you guys doing ? as far as slackware [17:06] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.29.85) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:07] quasar, only coincidence [17:07] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:08] JJJunkk (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) joined ##slackware. [17:08] hrad_: your mom uses your linux machine? [17:08] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [17:09] hrad_: uhm... slacking ? :D [17:09] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:09] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui" [17:10] anavel, :D me too [17:10] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl9-76-75.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:10] anavel: like admin in a company or as a community member [17:11] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [17:11] hmm... well, i am "officially" an admin at home. :) [17:11] BHAHAHA [17:11] :P [17:11] aren't we all. [17:11] im not :( [17:12] im not too... [17:12] im not the admin at home [17:12] :D [17:12] anavel: and what is the purpose [17:12] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:12] my mom has control over root [17:12] so whose taking care of your pc ? [17:12] >_> [17:12] my mummy [17:12] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:12] lol im kidding [17:12] acidchild, I think you mommy was on xkcd [17:12] Mrs Jones [17:12] sure ting [17:12] generic name [17:13] could be.... anyone [17:13] could be .... a joke? [17:13] =] [17:13] hmm i haven't considered that... [17:13] ;) [17:13] seriously though, i didnt know ha [17:14] my computer has a brain that thinks for itself [17:14] anyone here have experience with clusters? [17:14] lio_013 (n=ahmed@217.52.110.240) joined ##slackware. [17:14] yep a lil [17:14] MPI related stuff [17:14] I'm still learning [17:14] i have hardware comin next week [17:14] http://xkcd.com/341/ [17:14] Mrs Roberts, my bad [17:15] haha [17:15] nice. [17:15] acidchild: id like to set up distributing computing [17:15] my mom can't handle my tunneling skillz. [17:15] ViN86: check out openmpi [17:15] been researching beowulf clusters [17:15] i have buile in intel graphic card in my lenovo i installed slackware 13 but glxgears gives me only 200FPS while i get befor about 900FPS on zenwalk [17:15] how can i improve the graphic performance [17:15] acidchild: k thx, i have the parts for 2 machines coming next week. i can get one machine up and going no problem, but my problem will be getting the second to work with the first [17:16] acidchild, you must be bobby then. or elaine? http://xkcd.com/342/ [17:16] @_@ [17:16] hehe [17:16] ViN86: building your base camp? [17:16] :D [17:16] ?? [17:17] I'm a java developer who every day wonders how can all his cooworkers use windows...but I can't imagine how could I be more into linux unless I'd be employed in local redhat or suse companies...or being an admin [17:17] alisonken1home: got a desktop pic yet? [17:17] acidchild: well my group here at school is just getting started, so the answer would be yes heh [17:17] alisonken1home: or 'your office' [17:17] ViN86: ahh cool ting [17:18] acidchild: I'll try and remember to take the webcam tonight [17:18] Un blog targato openSUSE [17:18] Crismon’s Blog [17:18] * Home [17:18] Channel flood from metrofox -- kicking [17:18] * Informazioni [17:18] metrofox kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:18] alisonken1home: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3322/3556720247_bc3f0f899c_b.jpg [17:18] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.135.137) joined ##slackware. [17:18] o openSUSE 11.1 Tutorial [17:18] need to take some pictures, i got 8 mini-itx running in the closet now :D [17:18] o Tutorial openSUSE 11.0/10.3/10.2 [17:18] * Photo Gallery [17:18] o Desktop Gallery [17:18] metrofox: STOP [17:18] o Linux Day 2008 [17:18] AmaroK 2.2 Beta 2 (Red Dawn) Released! [17:18] nice one [17:18] WTF! [17:18] acidchild: yea i want to get a cluster going, mainly for large simulations in matlab [17:18] poor FPS what can i do guys [17:18] acidchild: some with just C/C++ as well [17:18] metrofox: your spamming the channel [17:18] alisonken1home: yeah :D [17:19] alisonken1home, yes I know... [17:19] sorry really.. [17:19] alisonken1home: they have arch on them i should try a form of bsd on them [17:19] =] [17:19] they aint PXE yet ether.. [17:19] I just wanted to copy 6 words... [17:19] we have one cluster doing pxe now [17:19] what os? [17:19] sorry, really :( [17:19] debian? [17:19] metrofox: i will kill you [17:19] debian based home setup [17:19] acidchild, :O [17:19] or rather - office setup [17:19] hehe [17:20] except for my desktop :) [17:20] acidchild: nice, is that your apartement ? [17:20] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:20] i want to build an antenna for 5ghz [17:20] anavel: yep [17:21] unless you work at night or have good curtains, working with that bright of backlight can kill your eyes [17:21] alisonken1home: i have blinds :) [17:21] that works too [17:22] a total of 40! of them [17:22] so i never put them up or down [17:22] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-204-48.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:22] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [17:22] i'm just given in to the fact, people can see me naked all the time [17:22] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [17:22] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [17:23] acidchild: wait wut [17:23] acidchild: You bought blinds for your massive apartment? [17:23] ViN86: floor to ceiling windows. [17:23] I bet that took a chunk out of the ole paycheck :) [17:23] lol ohhh [17:23] Dominian: they came with it. [17:23] ahhhhh [17:23] from the paperwork, they where 12k ;/ [17:23] and they suck nutz. [17:23] holy hell [17:24] other people went with the ZigBee controled day/blackout blinds... [17:24] press a button and they close. [17:25] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.130.241) left irc: Connection timed out [17:25] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-154-166.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:25] y0 slackers....How's everyone? [17:25] Dominian: why aint you installing a phone line for a 90yr old atm? [17:26] pics or it didn't happen [17:26] haha, he does it for the #'s :P [17:26] any body can help [17:26] MLanden: herro [17:27] acidchild: haha [17:27] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-23-107.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:27] y0 ViN86 [17:27] do they squeeze your bum when you bend over? [17:27] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] 'oooh dear... thats tight' [17:27] BHAHA [17:28] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC30B3E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [17:29] Looks like I came back to the computer just in time, acidchild :D [17:29] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [17:30] alrigth... time to head home [17:30] firedix (n=firedix@200.43.72.237) left irc: "Leaving" [17:30] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "caindo fora!!!" [17:30] awe, he got offended now hes going home [17:31] rlex (i=rlex@yunix.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:31] rlex (i=rlex@yunix.net) joined ##slackware. [17:31] rlex (i=rlex@yunix.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:33] dios_mio (i=test@88.241.138.235) left irc: "WOMEN HAVE BOOBS" [17:33] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [17:34] lio_013 (n=ahmed@217.52.110.240) left ##slackware. [17:34] all is well now, antiwire is here [17:35] CcSsNET (n=user@98.216.137.1) left irc: Client Quit [17:35] pi31415 (n=bcollver@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [17:35] maybe he can solve this crisis [17:36] rlex_ (i=rlex@yunix.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] Long live the antiwire ! [17:39] keres (i=keres@ppp-70-249-66-3.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:40] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:43] hrad_ (i=4e889142@gateway/web/freenode/x-btzqqdrauxeglhlv) left irc: "Page closed" [17:43] hey [17:43] I am having a problem compiling something [17:43] I did make install [17:43] and I get a bunch of Permission denied [17:43] because its copying to a root folder, should I compile it as root then? [17:44] dhw: Then you didn't have permission, obviously. And have you considered making a package, then installing the package? [17:44] Evening folks... I'm trying to get skype running on slackware64 and running into problems with the video device. [17:44] never made my own package before [17:44] It detects the device, and lets me click 'test' on it, but it doesn't display anything. [17:44] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:45] On my 32-bit laptop, the same camera works fine. [17:46] I'm assuming it's because skype is a 32 bit application, but wanted to run that theory by you folks to see if you agree with my thought, or if someone has had luck getting it to work. [17:46] dhw: SlackBuild script is a good start. [17:46] I am trying to get https://libmpq.org/ working [17:46] I use SlackBuild.org a lot, just never made my own script before [17:47] best time to learn it then [17:47] ah, maybe you can modify SlackBuild for your need. [17:47] dhw: Research makepkg or some such tool. [17:47] okay, slackbuilds.org go into detail on making packages then? [17:47] yeah, there is also slacktrack [17:48] dhw: Because from what you said, the compile went fine. [17:48] dhw, yeah, they have a howto and templates [17:48] yeah, the compile is fine just the installing part seems to give me an issue as a normal user only tho [17:48] dhw: well, you can edit foo.SlackBuild then modify it for your need. [17:48] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:48] I can make install as root just fine, I just want to make sure other users will be able to access the lib [17:48] dhw, normal user cant write to /etc or /usr or /lib or stuff [17:48] dimm0k_ (n=dimm0k@pool-71-183-180-185.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:48] yes, I know [17:48] adamk_: Camera in an XP virtual machine, here. :( [17:48] dhw, it should be all ok [17:49] oh, then maybe it worked [17:49] dhw, still better to make a sb [17:49] yes [17:49] also what usergroups did you guys recommend again? [17:49] Nick_Patterson: That's what I was worried about. [17:50] dhw, depends, but you usually want audio, video, plugdev, cdrom [17:50] Nick_Patterson: I never go anywhere without my laptop, so it's not like I can't use the camera, it would just be nice to use it on my desktop :-) [17:50] and users of course ^-^ [17:50] maybe power too [17:51] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) joined ##slackware. [17:51] how can I tell what groups my account is in [17:51] acidchild: http://xkcd.com/350/ [17:51] dhw, groups [17:51] dhw, its a command [17:51] dhw: id your_account [17:52] makes me think of you for some reason :) [17:52] dhw: I recommend hitting the UP arrow when the installation script asks you to input additional users. :P [17:52] Diels-Alder (n=tux@host208-22-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:53] salve a tutti [17:53] What the heck does that mean? :) [17:53] I had bunch of groups added to my user [17:53] but sudo does not work, was just checking to see if I had the wrong groups [17:54] did somthing to sudoers file? [17:54] Quick poll: how many here actually SUDO? [17:54] you get some text when trying to use sudo? [17:54] Nick_Patterson, whut? [17:55] How many here use the command "sudo"? [17:55] excuse me [17:55] No, sir. su -c instead [17:55] eviljames: Yeah, me too. [17:55] I do [17:55] I think this channel in italian [17:55] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [17:55] Diels-Alder (n=tux@host208-22-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [17:56] I gave my user some nopasswd rights in sudo [17:56] like rmmoding my wlandriver [17:56] Nick_Patterson: only at the office. at home I use su - [17:57] /etc/suauth ! :D [17:57] y0 Camarade_Tux [17:57] yoyo slackytude :) [17:57] hows it going? [17:57] Diels-Alder (n=tux@host208-22-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:58] Diels-Alder (n=tux@host208-22-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [18:00] dimm0k (n=dimm0k@pool-71-183-184-58.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:00] I'm trying to get one of my machines working as an NFS server. I have entries in /etc/exports, and started /etc/rc.d/rc.rpc, but the client is showing 'RPC Error: Program not registered' [18:00] portmapper [18:01] adamk_, start rc.rpc and restart rc.nfsd again [18:01] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-tycdhlvwsprevvke) left irc: "Page closed" [18:01] rpc.portmap is started (on both machines) by /etc/rc.d/rc.rpc [18:02] oy [18:02] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.124.229.10) left irc: "just to eat" [18:02] slackytude: D'oh. [18:02] I guess its too late, did overlook where you said you started i [18:02] I'm an idiot.... I never made /etc/rc.d/rc.nfsd executable, and never checked to see if it was running. [18:02] [18:02] heh [18:03] anahel (i=anahel@unaffiliated/anahel) joined ##slackware. [18:04] Thanks for the tip. It's one fo those silly things thay you overlook, but that drives you crazy for hours trying to fix it. [18:04] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Connection timed out [18:04] jinro (n=jinro@c-67-186-216-208.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:04] aye, been there, done that ^.^ [18:04] rats [18:04] mpqTest: error while loading shared libraries: libmpq-0.4.2.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [18:04] slackytude: well, doing the same year again, or rather parts of it =/ [18:05] Camarade_Tux, thats not news, is it? [18:05] told me like months ago [18:05] but it still sucks [18:05] I guess thinking about several projects during exams is pretty bad ;) [18:05] slackytude: yeah but it wasn't sure [18:05] meh [18:05] oh right [18:05] Anthony_Honstain (n=Anthony@c-98-247-28-134.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:06] that also means I'll be spending more time on caravel and friends [18:06] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [18:07] I started testing the architecture and I found out I lacked ocaml bindings for dbus-glib [18:07] blackthorne (n=bthorne@unaffiliated/blackthorne) joined ##slackware. [18:07] eh [18:08] go out and meet that mushroom friends of yours [18:08] and gobject-introspection is pretty bad so I have to write the library interface description by myself which takes some time [18:08] but I hope to have something really soon (available for test by the end of the month) [18:08] and I don't do shroom or anything ;p [18:08] heh [18:08] dimm0k (n=dimm0k@71.183.182.85) joined ##slackware. [18:08] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:08] y0 macavity [18:08] greetings macavity [18:08] evening folks :-) [18:08] y0 Camarade_Tux [18:09] yoyo fire|bird, how's it going? [18:09] morning macavity :) [18:09] Camarade_Tux: excellent, thanks. you? [18:09] fire|bird: well, so so :P [18:10] i have been banging my head against go-oo so hard i think i have Qt autoconf test shaped dents in my forhead... [18:10] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.29.85) joined ##slackware. [18:10] haha [18:10] heh [18:11] macavity: I was messing with it a bit and got to a point where it asked for which file to patch? [18:11] s/?// [18:11] so far the hypothisis is that it utilizes a Qt3 test on Qt4 [18:11] while I would enjoy listening of stories where you smash your head against things, I think I shall be going off [18:11] macavity: :) [18:11] heh, see ya slackytude [18:11] fire|bird: the ooo-builder from go-oo? [18:11] gn slackers [18:11] night slackytude [18:11] good night [18:12] o/ [18:12] later,slackytude [18:12] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A748BC.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "offski" [18:12] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "switching" [18:12] macavity: any support channel for go-oo? [18:12] macavity: yeah [18:12] Camarade_Tux: yeah, there is [18:12] #go-oo [18:12] fire|bird: the first time it bitched, and i just pressed enter a coupple of times [18:12] fire|bird: then it bombed out, and i tried again, and things went well [18:12] macavity: you might ask there, but during the european day ;) [18:12] so,3.1.1.1 is not easier to install then 3.0? [18:13] fire|bird: weird ass build system.. [18:13] macavity: yeah, it sure is. :P [18:13] macavity: It'd probably be easier to configure OOo for speed then to get go-oo built. :P [18:13] MLanden: i have gotten to the point where it fails because it checks for Qt4 and fails [18:14] MLanden: the strange point is that the help message tells me to export QTDIR (which is Qt3 specific), and when i set QTDIR=$QT4DIR it still fails [18:14] least,you gave it a try macavity .. it's indeed not pretty [18:14] It's straight up ugly. :P [18:14] i am not done with that ugly little motherfucker [18:15] and when i am done i shall bugrepport them back to the stonage [18:15] gonna beat it into submission? :P [18:15] --disable-gnome is a *must* [18:15] haha [18:15] hear ya,macavity [18:15] gconf, gnome-mime-data and gnome-vfs can simply not be needed [18:16] as in, techinically, it makes no sense [18:16] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [18:16] i fully belive it is just the autoconf files that has been wringled the wrong way [18:16] Solaris for one doesnt have the above [18:16] neither does *BSD [18:17] see your point,macavity....that's guaranteed to make gtk and qt4 lock horns [18:17] COME ON GEEKS [18:17] MLanden: it has --disable-gtk [18:18] http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=928267 .. the first post has some javascript shit, i can manage to grep -v RoHS.split for example, but it takes out [18:18] any suggestions ? [18:18] on how to remove the entire line but leave ? [18:18] grep -v , sed maybe [18:19] anyhow, just wanted to pop in to complain (yes, i excell at that) before i went to bed [18:19] nightynight hackers [18:19] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:19] night,macavity [18:19] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "go-oo has nice code and a crappy buildsystem.. DIXI!" [18:20] comrad? MLanden ? :D [18:20] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. [18:20] what,jeev? [18:21] lio_013 (n=ahmed@217.52.110.240) joined ##slackware. [18:21] hrad_ (i=4e889142@gateway/web/freenode/x-qtxkmlolmajrassr) joined ##slackware. [18:21] dimm0k_ (n=dimm0k@pool-71-183-180-185.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:21] poor fps in slackware 13 with my intel graphic card [18:22] blackthorne (n=bthorne@unaffiliated/blackthorne) left irc: [18:23] i need to remove a bunch of shit out of php files, i can do it with grep -v, it takes out the entire bad line.. but it takes out too cause the "attacker" put it in the same line with [18:23] im trying to see how i can remove all that code while leaving untouched [18:24] any way to build SlackBuilds as non-root? [18:25] far as i can see, requires building a tool to create a tar file with arbitrary ownership and permission attributes which would replace the chowns and chmods in the slackbuild [18:25] which should be possible with Archive::Tar::Streamed [18:27] is it a missunderstanding that there http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/office/openoffice.org/ are sources for 64bit but no script, or is it like: do smth. useful and write it for us [18:27] the scripts are there from what I can tell. [18:28] kaot (n=jpb@97-80-124-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:28] yes [18:29] but it expects the 32bit tar [18:29] nope. [18:29] tar: /opt/updates/openoffice.org/OOo_3.1.1_LinuxIntel_install_en-US.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory [18:30] if you override ARCH=x86_64 at the command line or in the script it changes the behaviour. [18:30] su -c "ARCH=x86_64 ./openoffice.org.SlackBuild" [18:30] anyway I can see the condition in the script, but somehow it doesn't work [18:31] that slackbuild defaults to 32bit [18:31] and no slackbuild attempts to guess ARCH [18:32] pi31415 (n=bcollver@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: "peace" [18:32] kaot (n=jpb@97-80-124-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) left ##slackware. [18:33] lio_013 (n=ahmed@217.52.110.240) left ##slackware. [18:33] _bruno (n=bruno@189-29-245-109-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:33] would probably make sense to set the ARCH in profile [18:33] and override that if you're cross-compiling or something [18:33] mattus (n=mattus@207.118.57.192) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:33] export [18:33] jeev awk, sed, perl, python? [18:34] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: "Leaving" [18:34] jeev do a search/replace regex in single-line mode [18:35] cool, thank you eviljames [18:35] hrad_: np [18:36] $string =~ s/^(.*.*)bad stuff(.*)$/$1$2/s [18:36] wait, i forgot he wanted to use grep -v. nevermind [18:36] jeev you want everything following y> to be rm'd? [18:36] or is that $ to eol? [18:37] sint there another <> after body, like [18:41] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:41] mrselfpwn try /window close [18:41] I've never known what a tgp was :D [18:41] no, i registered a channel on freenode and want to unregitster it [18:41] oh w/ chanserv [18:42] some gallery shit where you click and see some pics or get sent to another tgp [18:42] urbandictionnary.com is great :P [18:42] ncgty (n=gui@189.74.141.179) joined ##slackware. [18:42] psypete, get what im saying? doesn't have to be grep -v, was just an example [18:42] that's-ah hairy script [18:42] chanserv help doesn't display an option and /msg chanserv disown #channel doesn't work on freenode like on others. [18:42] unregister? [18:42] jeev: do you know what determines if you get sent to the pictures or to another tgp? [18:43] jeev how many files like that? [18:43] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [18:43] hey mrselfpwn, how's it going? [18:44] hey fire|bird, going pretty good [18:44] having fun with webbased irc chat and iframes [18:44] there were 3000! [18:45] anyterm is nice if you have your own box running :) [18:45] Camarade_Tux, a percentage you set i think [18:45] se -i -e -s '/\([<]script[>].*[<][/]script[>]\)/' files [18:45] se/sed/ [18:45] oops [18:45] sed -i -e -s '/\([<]script[>].*[<][/]script[>]\)//g' files ## remove all script anchors [18:45] what if there are other