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[00:06] i feel sorry for slackboy [00:06] jeev (~email@174.139.9.42) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:09] BlackGoat (~FreonTrip@99-37-202-130.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:09] hi. I see in /usr/src/linux-2.6.33.4/Documentation/filesystems/ some txt file systems that don't exist here, eg. gfs2. to work with it do i need to recompile the kernel? [00:10] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.252.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:10] you can make a kernel module for it [00:10] is there a module for it? If so, it loads when you try to mount such a filesystem. [00:11] powtrix: Yep, tank-man and rob0 beat me to it. [00:11] CONFIG_GFS2_FS=y [00:11] that is the huge kernel for 13.1 [00:12] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.252.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Client Quit [00:12] and about mkfs.gfs2? [00:12] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.252.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. 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[00:37] I wish you luck sir [00:37] bahh [00:37] fail [00:37] slight lag there, eh? [00:37] alphageek, wrong window in this case. [00:37] no no, no lag. fire|bird hit it dead on with failery :( [00:37] oh, even more fun [00:38] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [00:38] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:40] long (~long@221.178.159.131) joined ##slackware. [00:41] wow, extended attributes are kinda expensive to use [00:41] newegg has em on sale for $9.99 [00:41] appears that 1 fs block is devoted to them _per file_. at least on ext4 [00:42] long (long@221.178.159.131) left ##slackware. [00:42] 31564 files == 124.7 megs'o'xattrs [00:42] kwabbles (~kwabbles@cpe-76-173-169-106.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:43] Ya know, I always have difficulty at starting how to learn programming but when you get to the basics down, say you want to learn how to use a specific library how do you check if all the necessary libraries are evailable? I remember when I was on arch and tried to use SDL (although, I still don't know how to use it and school work has made it rather difficult) no matter how much I tried to compile what i wrote or tried to fix it (al [00:44] well written libraries have good documentation and/or sample source code [00:44] indeed [00:44] :/ [00:44] and the popular ones have a big following ergo mailing lists, etc [00:45] Ah [00:46] booyakasha! [00:46] Huh [00:46] D: [00:46] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: >_< PEBKAC, ID-10-T clicked the X ^_^ [00:46] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:47] ktorrent/libktorrent 4.0.2 in -current is old. The current version is 4.0.3. please upgrade them [00:47] ?? [00:47] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:48] mancha: lol...read that as booyashaka for some reason (ali g) [00:49] :> [00:49] i just had a ktorrent crash with 4.0.2 :( [00:50] that doesn't mean an upgrade to 4.0.3 would fix it. ;) [00:50] heya MLanden :) [00:50] heya fire|bird [00:51] It might or might not fix it. 4.0.3 has bug fixes. [00:51] then upgrade/build 4.0.3 yourself. [00:51] fire|bird: how's it going? [00:51] ok, let me seed a 4.0.3 package [00:51] MLanden, going well, thanks. yourself? [00:51] *h0h0* [00:52] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:52] fire|bird: Because I am a lazy bastard, and I want making a kind suggestion to slackware that a package could use upgrade anyhow. ;P [00:52] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:53] http://www.libsdl.org/cgi/docwiki.cgi/Initializing_SDL Hmm, I don't know if I like this as 'documentation' but it seems usable at least, it just annoys me since it doesn't seem to explain why, "`sdl-config --cflags --libs`" would be a necessity... [00:53] Or is that usually well known amongst programmers i wonder even newbies... :/ [00:53] guys i refuse to install slack64, and keep 32bit version... am i missing a lot? [00:53] nah [00:53] ferdna: probably not [00:53] 32 bits :o [00:54] you won't miss a thing unless you have a bajillion gigs of ram :| [00:54] fire|bird: going great as well thanks...nothing new 'cept messing with a few emulators(openmsx for one) [00:54] Animeking, i have 3 gb [00:54] Oh, Yeah, Eff 64 bit XD [00:54] Eff ? [00:54] I don't know what kind of language is or isn't allowed here :P [00:54] sabalaba (~sabalaba@c-76-118-76-200.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:55] evil friends forever [00:55] asarch (~asarch@187.132.131.250) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:55] XD [00:55] lol [00:55] Animeking: fuck 64 bit :P [00:55] :| [00:55] Okay, so I am allowed to say it [00:55] problem is that developing for phones... they support only 32 bit [00:56] Animeking: haha, no, only i'm allowed to say that ! [00:58] So, is compiling from source code from apps you don't have and want and aren't available on Slack the 'not-recommended' way of doing things like in other distros I've used before? :/ [00:59] quadruple negatives much? [00:59] Although I don't think I'll need to do that, since 2-3 of the applications I want are written in java lol [00:59] quadruple negatives? [00:59] hold up lemme what i said [00:59] Yep, lots of negatives [01:00] Animeking, Java sucks!!!! even its creator abandoned project!!!! [01:00] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:00] Yes, Java sucks :| [01:01] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [01:01] java is like ovarian cysts, only uglier [01:01] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:01] and with oracle suing google i imagine googles gonna dump java like nobody's business [01:01] :/ Oracle, man I dislike them [01:01] hopefully they do!!! and they go with Qt toolkit [01:02] no. [01:02] that would be awesome!! [01:02] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:02] yes [01:02] i think google is coding up a vm from scratch [01:02] frk (~jcn@189.58.222.29.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:03] there's already one but it's contested [01:03] mancha, nooooooooooooooooooooooo! [01:03] :) [01:03] sound in Java really sucks on linux [01:03] for me [01:03] foobarz, and not just sound... performance is bad [01:03] google for "dalvik" [01:03] mancha, i know what dalvik is [01:04] oracle says dalvik is tainted [01:04] google says it is a clean room implementation [01:04] right... and Qt is just a easy to program as Java isn't it [01:04] let em fight! [01:05] why qt of all things? [01:05] kickback, best tool kit out there :P [01:05] Anyways, I was asking if compiling an application from source is seen negatively in slack. SInce in most distros I've used they try to recommend to use other things as much as possible (i.e, aur for arch)? ALso, even if I do decide to go that rout at any point say I no longer want or need the application how do you usually remove it :/ [01:05] ferdna: haha, nice one [01:05] I've added one before but never had to remove it... [01:05] there is going to be some new GTK+3 isn't there? [01:05] Hmm [01:06] Animeking, you just erase... or rmvpkg [01:06] Ah [01:06] So thats it, you just delete all the stuff you installed :| [01:06] Animeking: the preferred method in every distro is to create a package that is used by its respective package manager&. this involves compiling the program [01:06] hmmm [01:06] also, just as there is make install [01:06] Animeking, take a look at checkinstall... [01:07] some programs have a make uninstall or make remove feature to remove it (if you don't want ot make a package) [01:07] http://www.asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ [01:07] in slackware, you should build a SlackBuild script, which builds and packages the program for you& this also makes it easy to upgrade later when you need to [01:07] Animeking: you mean omething you want that isnt on slackbuilds.org? [01:07] kickback, nothing but the truth :D [01:07] Hmm [01:07] Yeah exactly kickback [01:08] checkinstall seems useful... lol [01:08] http://slackbuild.org/guidelines/ this goes over how to create slackbuild scripts [01:08] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) joined ##slackware. [01:09] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:10] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [01:10] checkinstall is an older archaic way of tracking where make files vomit all over your file system [01:10] gniks, yuip :) [01:11] got anything better? [01:11] if you are a lazy bastard, and make -n install DESTDIR=/pkg/root appears to work for the software you are compiling, then you can just do that and then use makepkg inside /pkg/root... no need to make a SlackBuild script all the time [01:11] build a package [01:11] yeah, but you will have to remember your config options :p [01:11] don't forget a slack-desc if you like infomercials [01:12] slack isn't a "standard" distro, default configure options will put things in odd locations [01:12] like /usr/local/etc/ [01:12] :p [01:12] anyway, its your file system, do what you like [01:13] hmm [01:13] why is /usr/local odd? [01:13] gniks, lol... yes... =) [01:13] i always thought the Linux FIle SYstem was standardized enough for things to be [01:13] someone drank the volkerding kool-aid!:) [01:13] volkerding kool-aid? [01:13] lol [01:14] next you're gonna tell me pam is evil? [01:14] idk organized? [01:14] no mancha, actually im working on integrating pam into slackware [01:14] gniks, oh lemme know if you get stuck, i've done that many times. [01:14] if you are referring to me, there isn't anything wrong with doing things the correct way (as deemed by the distro) [01:14] biometric readers are important! [01:15] lol thanks, but i think i got it ;) [01:15] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [01:15] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:16] can severed fingers still trigger a thumbprint reader? [01:16] lol [01:16] prolly [01:16] mancha: lol...go Wesley Snipes..:) [01:16] heh [01:17] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:18] kwabbles (~kwabbles@cpe-76-173-169-106.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:18] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [01:19] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.101.81) left irc: Read error: No route to host [01:24] goj (~goj@p5488F47A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [01:26] ysg (1000@cm103-236.madisontelco.com) joined ##slackware. [01:28] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.237.105) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:31] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [01:33] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:42] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:46] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-27-58.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:47] God I love Drexciya. [01:51] john_dee (~id@95-29-14-98.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:51] has anyone tried using minitube? http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube [01:51] looks pretty good [01:51] it's nice. [01:52] What's the easiest way to use rsync with a lock file? [01:52] no need for adobe flash nonsense [01:52] but now that youtube's gone html5 it is not as critical [01:53] clint- (~clint@pdpc/supporter/active/clint-) joined ##slackware. [01:54] mancha: yeah, but many vids are still not in webm [01:54] :( [01:54] html5 doesn't mean only vp8 in a webm container. [01:55] all their vids are in h264 available in mp4 containers [01:55] and the list of webm vids grows every day...aren't they close to finished re-encoding? [01:56] mancha: maybe, but FF doesn't have native support for h264 right? [01:56] nor will they, it is philosophy issue with mozilla. [01:56] but google chrome does [01:57] yes, i know that about mozilla [01:58] i think even now that mpeg la announced that h264 will remain free for streaming forever, i doiubt mozilla will incorporate it [01:58] i dont really like chrome. mostly because it tries WAY too hard to guess what i'm going to type in the URL box :/ [01:59] anyways, webm transcoding will be complete very soon i am sure. [01:59] looooooooooooooooooooooool [01:59] oh, and i certainly dont want google to know what pornsites i visit :P [01:59] :| Google already knows kickback [01:59] GOogle knows all [01:59] D: [01:59] They're omniscient D: [02:00] huh, i completely stopped using google, all their services [02:00] but im sure they still know everything about me [02:00] GOOGLE KNOWS ALL! [02:00] I for one welcome our google overlords! [02:00] i don't think you can function as a normal human being these days if you forego www.google.com [02:01] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*net.pbthawe.eu expired. [02:01] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*net.pbthawe.eu' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [02:01] mancha: www.yauba.com :) [02:01] and ixquick ofcourse [02:01] THe only search engines [02:01] I Know of [02:01] are clusty, bing, yahoo, and now yauba [02:01] :| [02:01] two of those owned by MS [02:01] hehe [02:02] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@unaffiliated/akmal expired. [02:02] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@unaffiliated/akmal' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [02:02] Animeking: try yauba, you'll love it [02:02] :/ Meh [02:02] and ixquick is fine too [02:02] i just did [02:03] jeev (~email@174.139.9.42) joined ##slackware. [02:03] jeev (~email@174.139.9.42) left irc: Changing host [02:03] jeev (~email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [02:03] ok a few things on yauba. when someone is very busy convincing you about how private their service is, WATCH out. and secondly, nothing but copyright infringement seemsto come out of India, and now this is to be trusted? [02:03] mancha [02:03] maybe i'm wrong and the thing's great...but being the skeptic...i dunno. [02:04] Anyways, How do I use alien bobs packages? [02:04] jeev_ (~email@174.139.9.42) joined ##slackware. [02:05] mancha: yes, i understand that, but atleast there is a POSSIBILITY with yauba and ixquick [02:05] Q: How many IBM cpu's does it take to do a logical right shift? [02:05] A: 33. 1 to hold the bits and 32 to push the register. [02:05] with google you know you gonna get raped [02:05] What...I don't get it [02:05] clint- (~clint@pdpc/supporter/active/clint-) left irc: Quit: sleeping , everyone take care :-) [02:05] kickback: At least you /know/. [02:06] kickback thing is, i know what google does with the info they get from me. i don't know what the guys at the Indian Intitute of Technology are gonna do with it... [02:06] Although you can always use tor or something with the others [02:06] Animeking: yeah ;) [02:06] better a devil you know than... [02:06] GOogle on the otherhand does not even allow tor and blocks all tor connections :| [02:06] mancha: how do you KNOW what google does with your data? are you an employee? [02:07] They tell you what they do with it, they store somewhere for a couple of years, and sell it :| [02:07] i mean, they could be doing much worse than we see in the news [02:07] Morning. [02:07] john_dee (~id@95-29-14-98.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:07] kickback, let your imagination go wild, tell me what google 'could' do with my search info [02:07] They probably also read it and laugh at the weirdness of it all :| [02:08] i still trust google.com more than some outfit that purports privacy and works out of a 3rd world country. [02:08] tank-man: they could laugh at me for watching plain man on woman porn :/ [02:08] :/ And this effects you how? lol [02:08] i'm just insecure about my sexuality [02:09] oops [02:10] Facebook is worse though [02:10] :| [02:10] As long as they don't reveal my private info like where I live, I'm okay. [02:10] holy shit, wtf. "qmake: command not found" [02:11] you need qt [02:12] too bad :/ [02:12] oh wait, you're biased towards yauba i just realized! [02:12] i hope you didn't take offense :( [02:13] mancha: why? [02:13] based purely on your geographic parameters [02:13] mancha: nah, [02:14] >_> [02:14] eprod (~user@96-25-191-71.gar.clearwire-wmx.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:14] ok good. [02:14] actually, i only came to know about the indian connection for yauba when you just mentioned it [02:14] oh wow, you didn't realize it was an indian experiment? [02:15] nope [02:15] i just heard about yauba and tried it. liked it better than google [02:15] it is actually a join project [02:15] my main is still ixquick though [02:15] mit and harvard are also involved [02:15] :O I has an idea [02:16] lets do searches for every piece of illegal content [02:16] EVAR [02:16] joint project* [02:16] in yauba D: [02:16] btw, missyrissy : http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/canadian-court-orders-google-isps-to-id-controversial-york-univ/19159212/ [02:16] like, bombinb, cp, and controversial subjects that aren't illegal but terrible :O [02:16] But enough of that [02:17] kickback, yauba says they don't keep records, how do we know? [02:17] how do you install software from alien bobs packages? I see a couple of commands in slackpkg man but am not sure... [02:18] mancha: i dont even care if they keep records, its just that its a better search engine, and not nearly as creepy as google [02:18] Ya I know. [02:18] Animeking: installpkg [02:19] Ah [02:20] :/ .meta... [02:21] anyone know of a youtube player like minitube but doesn't depend on qt? [02:22] You know what, you guys are pretty cool :O I tend to say this in most distros I end up using but you guys don't seem to get ticked at ignorance >_> LOL [02:23] Animeking: get lost you ignorant noob! [02:23] jk [02:24] :| [02:24] Action: Animeking kicks kickback. [02:28] ah found the slackbuild [02:28] bosth (~ben@99.199.149.15) joined ##slackware. [02:28] kickback: could use youtube-dl or clive then use mplayer or ffmpeg's ffplay [02:29] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: keep things simple, taze the dumbass [02:29] MLanden: yes, thats what i was thinking, but a standalone youtube player wouldve been even better [02:31] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [02:31] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [02:32] Animeking (~edgar@adsl-64-181-223.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:35] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.2, revision: 4740, sources date: 20100627, built on: 2010-08-08 18:29:00 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [02:37] kickback: yeah...sorry,can't think of one [02:38] vlc does youtube links.. [02:38] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [02:39] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [02:41] yeah, i'll have to install vlc, xine doesnt get the audio right in flv [02:42] Media->Open network stream [02:43] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-251.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:44] oh damn, vlc requires qt? :/ [02:44] does it? [02:44] [0x80f046c] skins2 interface error: no suitable dialogs provider found (hint: compile the qt4 plugin, and make sure it is loaded properly) [02:45] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-14.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:45] kickback: can you use the ncurses interface..nvlc 'youtube link' [02:46] hrmm, let me check something for you [02:46] bash: nvlc: command not found [02:46] :/ [02:46] can't use vlc until you install vlc. ;) [02:47] edgar_ (~edgar@adsl-64-181-223.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [02:47] Nick change: edgar_ -> Animeking [02:47] Nick change: Animeking -> Edogaa [02:47] Yo [02:47] fire|bird: i did :/ [02:47] the default vlc build is w/o ncurses, is that what alienbob does? [02:47] having a little bit of difficulty installing themes on xfce :/ [02:48] Is there a specific folder I need to go too? [02:48] to* [02:48] mancha: might be [02:48] hmm i did install alienBOB's build [02:48] also, he probably builds with qt4 support [02:48] kickback: how 'bout the console interface..cvlc? [02:50] ysg (1000@cm103-236.madisontelco.com) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.3"). [02:50] suddenly started working :) [02:50] that works! [02:50] lol [02:50] cvlc http://www.youtube.com.... [02:51] i have a new toy, thanks mlanden [02:51] mancha: vlc always has a non-graphical version (cvlc) [02:51] cvlc didnt work earlier, but suddenly started working [02:51] no idea how [02:51] alienBOB i am new to the world of vlc [02:52] but i must say that i applaud cvlc... [02:52] ganeshix (~ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:53] yay! youtube vids without flash :) [02:53] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [02:53] i should say, ALL youtube vids , unlike html5 :) [02:54] mancha: np...tyin' to figure the keyboard shortcuts.see space pauses [02:55] ahhh...alt + left cursor or alt + right cursor [02:58] tar xv...what was the rest again? extract...verbose... [02:58] baby cvlc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_DBy34NRlY [02:58] bosth (~ben@99.199.149.15) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:59] what is this like political systems 101? [02:59] Edogaa (~edgar@adsl-64-181-223.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:59] yeah [03:00] cvlc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xd_zkMEgkI [03:01] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [03:04] thats nice [03:05] brb [03:05] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-156-6.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:06] alien do you not build the ncurses interface? [03:08] ncurses interface to what? [03:08] alisonken1lap: to vlc [03:08] missyrissy (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: missyrissy [03:08] ah [03:08] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [03:09] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:10] hmmm vlc doesnt seem to have the ability to keep downloading the video while its paused? [03:10] talking about youtube vids [03:10] how do you pause? [03:11] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:11] mancha: using the spacebar [03:11] oh that doesn't work here L/ [03:11] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-156-6.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:12] with what active, the video window or the terminal? [03:12] the video window [03:12] ah, i know what i did wrong. interesting. [03:13] missyrissy (~rhisa@ool-457ab193.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [03:13] missyrissy (~rhisa@ool-457ab193.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Changing host [03:13] missyrissy (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [03:17] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-251.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:18] see I can use cvlc --vout fb in tty...nice to know that feature works [03:20] MLanden: whats that do? [03:20] oh framebuffer [03:21] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:21] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:21] kickback: yeah...nice when you're doin' something in init 3 like compiling [03:23] if only there was the ncurses interface in alien's build... [03:23] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [03:23] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) joined ##slackware. [03:24] numnum (~chatzilla@117.206.19.168) joined ##slackware. [03:24] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*chatzilla@117.206.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [03:24] numnum kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: From one bot to another, get lost! [03:26] o_O [03:27] kickback: just add --enable-ncurses after ./configure in the slackbuild..but I can see,it is a long compile [03:28] maybe you can coax alien to add it from here on in... [03:29] MLanden: i just installed the binary alien provided [03:30] kickback: ok [03:30] i should build my own [03:33] can someone tell me what package has xcb-keysyms ? [03:35] i wish i could just "add on" the ncurses interface to my current installation :/ [03:36] mancha, xcb-util [03:36] thanks fire. [03:36] yw [03:36] VLC always has the ncurses interface. No need to recompile [03:37] alienBOB: i get bash: nvlc: command not found [03:37] alienbob, i think the default is no ncurses [03:37] unless you use --enable-ncurses in the config [03:37] Yes the default is no ncurses. So I will add it next build [03:38] I mixed up nvlc and cvlc [03:38] alienBOB: thanks. that would be badass :) [03:38] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:38] You can however try the SDL version: svlc [03:39] alienBOB: that requires qt? [03:39] no suitable dialogs provider found (hint: compile the qt4 plugin, and make sure it is loaded properly) [03:39] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.95.199) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:40] maybe i should try rvlc [03:41] hmmm rvlc is good [03:48] whats rvlc? [03:48] lua? [03:48] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:49] mancha: its "remote controlled vlc" :P [03:49] just try it, and type in 'help' to see the command [03:49] s/command/commands [03:50] i also missed the curses and the xcb stuff so i'll use this as an excuse to build 1.1.4 [03:51] my server keeps crashing and all the vps clients on it are threatening to leave lawl ouch [03:52] mancha: how will you build it? [03:52] What is the best way to remote control vlc from a separated application? [03:52] i mean, building it from source sounds painful [03:52] overnight :) [03:53] og my god [03:53] just kidding. there's no god :) [03:53] kickback, but i probably won't. i'm getting lazier with each passing day. [03:53] I'm trying with dbus via org.mpris.vlc, but it doesn't have command to get metada informationfor currently playing video [03:56] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [03:57] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Client Quit [03:57] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [04:00] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:00] mdeanda (~mdeanda@cpe-76-172-122-107.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:03] How do I look at the meta detail of a jpg file? [04:04] jhead [04:05] kickback: you can just use my vlc.SlackBuild to compile a package. Not so painful [04:06] i'll try that [04:08] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [04:08] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [04:08] grazymax (~grazymax@host141-154-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [04:17] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-77.viapori.fi) joined ##slackware. [04:18] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:20] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [04:23] rachael (~rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [04:34] rafu (~rafu@92-227-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) joined ##slackware. [04:34] rafu (~rafu@92-227-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) left irc: Client Quit [04:39] Mowah (1000@c-e580e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [04:45] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [04:56] little question about AIM [04:56] missyrissy (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: missyrissy [04:56] an acquaintance of mine wants to videochat using AIM [04:56] is there any way I can do that from Linux? [04:56] [hireme]rhisa (~rhisa@ool-457ab193.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [04:56] [hireme]rhisa (~rhisa@ool-457ab193.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Changing host [04:56] [hireme]rhisa (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [04:57] do you know of any third party program able to do that? [04:57] I know Pidgin can easily do regular chat with that protocol but, can it do video? 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[05:03] Nick change: edgar_ -> Animeking [05:05] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/graphics/scrot/ When I try to instll this (I got both libs) my system says, "Checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" [05:05] :/ [05:05] Mowah (1000@c-e580e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:06] <[hireme]rhisa> Wow you are still here having issues Animeking? :) [05:07] :| [05:07] I cannot install scrot [05:08] i am not having many issues actually, just can't seem to do that :/ [05:09] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [05:10] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [05:10] where is changelog? [05:10] err [05:10] config.log [05:12] in current directory? [05:12] Animeking: What slackware version? [05:12] 13.1 [05:14] why are you using the 12.2 slackbuild then? [05:14] buh... [05:14] thats 12.2 [05:14] Action: Animeking headdesks. [05:14] I'm a genius! D: [05:15] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.42.65) joined ##slackware. [05:16] morning phrag [05:18] <[hireme]rhisa> http://www.lulzbrigade.com/node/596 [05:18] <[hireme]rhisa> ;-; [05:20] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:21] [hireme]rhisa: huh? [05:22] <[hireme]rhisa> kickback, just feeling blues. [05:23] morning all [05:23] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [05:23] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-185-99.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:23] <[hireme]rhisa> Morning. [05:25] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*chatzilla@117.206.* expired. [05:25] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*chatzilla@117.206.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [05:25] who made slackboy? [05:25] just curious [05:25] Mowah (1000@c-e580e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [05:25] Mowah (1000@c-e580e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Client Quit [05:26] Animeking: this slackbuild might help http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/slackware/addon/slackbuilds/13.1/graphics/scrot/ YMMV [05:26] hmm [05:26] I already installed it though? [05:27] Animeking: ahhh...ok,sorry [05:27] Mowah (1000@c-e580e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [05:27] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) joined ##slackware. [05:28] <[hireme]rhisa> kickback, I believe Alan_Hicks. [05:28] Animeking, have you tried sbopkg from sbopkg.org? [05:28] no? [05:28] makes installing slackbuilds from sbo very easy. [05:28] _tecra (~fake.emai@70-36-146-98.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [05:28] oh [05:28] nah, no need :O [05:29] Now to get my favorite irc client >_> kvirc [05:29] I prefer it over xchat :/ [05:29] Animeking: scrot work ok?...been a while since I used it [05:30] yes [05:30] yes it does work okay :P [05:30] cool [05:31] I'm probably the only one here who likes KVIrc D: [05:31] I think one or two people use it here. [05:32] I use irrsi over ssh. [05:32] Ah [05:32] + screen of course. [05:32] [hireme]rhisa (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: [hireme]rhisa [05:32] i use irssi mostly [05:32] sometimes xchat [05:32] grazymax (~grazymax@host141-154-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:33] ganeshix (~ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:33] hmm [05:33] so compiz is installed? [05:34] It is [05:34] nifty :O [05:34] If you did a full install it should be. [05:34] But fusion [05:34] :/ [05:34] No I don't think it's compiz-fusion, just the original compiz. [05:34] Ah [05:34] any reason? [05:35] oh man, did compiz fusion pwn [05:35] it's slackware [05:35] No idea really. [05:35] well [05:35] I WOULD'VE EXPECTED SLACK NOT TO HAVE COMPIZ D: lol [05:35] then again, compiz is surprising me a lot too [05:35] D: [05:35] It probably depends on whether -fusion has released a stable version. [05:35] Ah [05:36] if you want compiz-fusion there are packages already compiled (for slack 13.1) on slacky.eu repo [05:36] So the hwole point of slackware is to bundle all the most stable useable and try not to be redundant as possible software? [05:36] WHile being 'minimal' [05:36] and simple [05:37] C00re (hard@unaffiliated/c00re) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:37] Animeking: one word : KDE4 :P [05:37] >_> [05:37] Simple, and minimal? [05:37] I wouldn't say minimal. [05:37] Simple? [05:37] exactly what i meant [05:37] A full install is larger than many distros. [05:38] Action: Animeking spasms and squirts blood out then continues to spasm on the floor. [05:38] Simple, yes. [05:38] dive: yeah..compiz 0.9x is a mess [05:38] Whats a mess? [05:38] err why? [05:38] what version is this anyways :| [05:38] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [05:39] 0.8.6 [05:39] ah [05:39] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [05:39] ls /var/log/packages/compiz* [05:40] one thing that bothers me, my monitor is 2048x1152 [05:40] resolution, yet when I try to move my desktop icons to certain corners of the screen [05:40] it won't 'move' [05:40] Action: Animeking likes having his trashcan in the lower right corner of the screen. [05:40] which DE/WM? [05:41] XFCE [05:41] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:41] _benster (ben@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-apiqqtehtrgkygld) left irc: Changing host [05:41] _benster (ben@unaffiliated/benster) joined ##slackware. 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[06:03] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [06:03] LSD` (~ianweb@203-59-65-5.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:05] Morn [06:05] Hi Zordrak. [06:05] morning zord [06:06] WHo here installed Tor, I2P, freenet, Frost, Bitcoins? [06:06] HarryS (H@harry.lu) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [06:08] Edogaa: i only installed tor [06:08] Okay [06:08] why? [06:08] so I'm gonna manually install freenet and frost. [06:08] No reason [06:10] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-185-99.mel.connect.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:11] i didnt use freenet because of java [06:11] mrcarrot (~lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) joined ##slackware. [06:11] :/ [06:11] I seen o reason other than Oracle atm to hate java [06:11] it is a language D: [06:12] who would not hate java? [06:12] yo [06:12] :O [06:12] Action: mrcarrot hates java [06:12] i dont know why, but every java app i've ever used has been a piece of shit [06:12] :P Not with me [06:12] yeah, they are slow and terrible [06:12] and i have actually been coding in java [06:13] it is a terrible language [06:13] Freenet, frost, FMS and even bitcoins were okay :/ [06:13] okay, everything is a object... but the lines are becoming way to long and clumsy [06:13] just to write out something on the screen is a long thing [06:14] i was forced to learn it at university... c/c++ or python would have been better [06:14] those i had to learn by myself [06:18] i2p uses java as well? [06:18] i just checked, it does [06:18] mrcarrot: I've started using computers when java, xml and javascript were introduced and I learnt on thing: SSSLLLOOOWWW [06:18] mrcarrot: but honestly, java is better [06:19] (xml not, and javascript not either because every speed improvement on the engines comes with a speed penality because of always heavier and more stupid javascript codes) [06:19] oh, another shit pile gets mentioned : xml [06:20] Action: mrcarrot shudders [06:20] heh, you don't like firefox with xml and js for its interface? [06:20] just left to mention ubuntu and ms and we are done [06:21] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-169-182.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:21] you want slow? try paq8 :P [06:21] adrien: firefox is the only choice because of the features... but a pile of shit is it too [06:21] i dont really like firefox [06:22] i just use it because it actually lets me configure it [06:22] i am using firefox because it is the webbrowser working together with most sites and becuase of the ad-blocking feature [06:23] xml is okay as long as i dont have to edit it... [06:23] i would prefer even an ini-file before xml [06:23] no wait, i hate xml, even if i dont have to edit it [06:23] at least for settings [06:23] openbox' confif is xml but it's very well commented and it's been well designed too: it's nice [06:24] xml is the only reason i'm using fluxbox instead of openbox [06:24] really, ini and xml suck both as much if they're not documented and commented [06:25] kickback: if so, you should really take a look at what that xml is [06:25] Action: mrcarrot is using windowmaker but definitely not because of the config-files [06:25] adrien: oh, i have, i'd rather use fluxbox than edit openbox's config files [06:25] all config files are sucking if they are not documented [06:25] xml sucks even when it is commented well [06:26] i agree [06:26] kickback: I've always been very pleased by openbox' configuration: the default files are thoroughly-commented and explained, and the online doc is exhaustive [06:26] XML doesn't suck D: [06:26] I don't see why xml would suck for 100 or even 1000 lines [06:27] but if you want, I can give you 100000 lines of uncommented and undocumented xml making unexplained assumptions (oh, and buggy ones) [06:27] adrien: yeah, openbox's config files are pretty well commented indeed [06:27] but it still makes me want to puke [06:28] I might not really like xml but in this case, it was ok: I've edited them once, and haven't had to look at them again [06:28] fluxbox's config files are pretty much self-explanatory even if not commented [06:29] i mean, even though they're not commented as well [06:29] being self-explanatory is not an excuse for not commenting and documenting [06:30] adrien: oh no, they're commented and documented pretty well [06:30] actually, it's a big problem with xml files (but not xml itself!): people think "human-readble, nice, it's self-explanatory" [06:30] kickback: I meant that as a general remark [06:30] but not as good as openbox [06:30] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. 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[06:32] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:35] XML XML [06:35] Good Morning all, Running Slackware 13.1 on my laptop but having intermittent wifi issues. My intel 3945 seems to disconnect when not in use. Has there been a bug report on this issue and is there a fix. [06:35] divadgnol67: can you pastebin your dmesg [06:36] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:36] I think the only option will be a kernel upgrade, I have the same card, drivers have been shit but they seem better now [06:36] i can and will but not able to at this time. [06:36] divadgnol67: ok, keywords: "mac is in deep sleep"? [06:37] adrien > thanks. will look for that. [06:37] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:38] Mowah (1000@c-e580e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:38] i normally use ifconfig to set parameters but have heard wicd is a good front-end. can you confirm this? [06:38] rafu (~rafu@92-227-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) joined ##slackware. [06:38] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [06:39] hey, anyone knows how to resize lvm volumes so they get to have the same size? [06:40] divadgnol67: yeah, it works well [06:40] thanks [06:40] divadgnol67: wicd is a pretty nice [06:40] I jave 2 ;aptops with 3945 cards and both do not have disconnect problems. [06:41] have 2 laptops [06:41] XGizzmo, even after long periods of non use? [06:42] yes this laptop stays on 24/7 [06:42] XGizzmo, good to hear. It may be an isolated problem. [06:43] nah, it's been mentionned a lot on bugzilla.kernel.org [06:43] benster (ben@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-apiqqtehtrgkygld) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:43] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-169-182.bur.connect.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:43] adrien > sorry, you did mention that earlier. [06:43] power management for the 3945 driver was disabled due to buggyness [06:44] adrien > you mentioned upgrading the kernel. this fixed the problem? [06:45] I have been wanting to re-compile my kernel anyway to remove some unneeded drivers. so this is a great reason to do so [06:45] 2.6.36 works well for me, but it's still in rc stages [06:45] will give it a try. anything hiccups i should be aware of? [06:46] well, first get most of your config right without changing the kernel version (use slack's 2.6.33), try 2.6.36rc* later [06:46] it's still in rc, comes with no warranty [06:46] benster (ben@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-luqkfrvarxxrzjnm) joined ##slackware. [06:46] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:46] no problem. have plenty of experience compiling kernels. [06:46] actually, early 2.6.36 versions broke it very badly here [06:47] benster (ben@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-luqkfrvarxxrzjnm) left irc: Changing host [06:47] benster (ben@unaffiliated/benster) joined ##slackware. [06:47] benster (ben@unaffiliated/benster) left irc: Changing host [06:47] benster (ben@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-luqkfrvarxxrzjnm) joined ##slackware. [06:47] divadgnol67: btw, for you problems: were you able to reconnect once the connection drops? (I mean, it looks like a regular wifi disconnect, but after that, the card refuses to work, to even scan for networks?) [06:51] adrien > yes, i am able to connect immediately afterwards. but i do need to re-issue dchp [06:51] its as if the ip settings are lost??? [06:51] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. 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[08:32] pete` (~user@012.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:33] a friend of mine recently had such troubles: thought his NIC was dead, the led lights wouldn't blink/light properly [08:34] esiste un canale in italiano? [08:34] but you don't usually expect internal short cables to have troubles (10m of ethernet cable, much more) [08:34] windows98: not that I know: can't speak english at all? [08:34] italiano [08:34] KaMii, well thats good news, cables are cheap and now you don't have to pull out your hair [08:35] no speak inglish [08:35] is there a slackware.it? [08:35] try [08:36] too late Skywise i already pulled half my hair out [08:36] windows98: http://slacky.eu/ [08:36] esiste un chan italiano? [08:37] windows98: /join #slackware.it [08:37] there is a link on slacky.eu... slacky.eu is in italian [08:39] o for fuck sake [08:39] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@201.210.190.118) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:39] stop PM'ing me, windows98 [08:39] i feel i have to link this site: http://ciao-a-tutti.sytes.net/ [08:40] #slackware on irc.syrolnet.org (found via slacky.eu) [08:41] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@201.210.190.118) joined ##slackware. [08:42] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-166-185.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [08:42] aww, just realized this Western Digial Software CD uses Dos... so much for my, Dos/windoze will never touch this machine [08:42] :) [08:43] KaMii, :-D [08:43] im surprised they use DOS [08:43] at least dos is the lesser evil between windblows and dos [08:43] Most of that type of software does. [08:43] that you can at least boot from a cd [08:43] thats true [08:44] Very few have moved to a Linux kernel [08:44] sometimes they use isolinux [08:44] non c'č nessuno su #slackware.it [08:44] Check UBCD out - nearly ALL of it is DOS based [08:44] windows98, stop speak italian [08:44] it is far more worse if you need to have windows installed to upgrade a bios/firmware [08:44] Zordrak++ [08:44] and check #slackware on syrolnet [08:44] windows98: server irc.syrolnet.org and #slackware there [08:45] dont all motherboard bios updates use boot disc or usb boot? [08:46] Urugami (~AndChat@0.sub-97-198-172.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [08:46] i didnt think you could flash a bios while booted into an OS [08:46] KaMii, no often there is an utility to flash new bios [08:46] that utility works only with win [08:46] dos reminds me of something funny... i was once a real dos guru. i knew every single command and i could do really fancy thing. then 98 i bought a new computer and decided to try linux [08:47] estranho (~estranho@187.14.136.216) joined ##slackware. [08:47] estranho (~estranho@187.14.136.216) left irc: Changing host [08:47] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [08:47] and it felt so depressing that it was so much to learn... that i would never be able to say that i know everything [08:47] but now i think it is intersting that i never reach an end when i know everything [08:47] how many commands are in dos? 24? [08:48] i do not know... msdos 6.x had at least some [08:48] i used dos as main os until 98 [08:48] KaMii, lol [08:48] lol, it should have been called LOS (Limited Operating System) [08:49] rotfl [08:49] then i begun my linux jorney with redhat [08:49] what can you do with just DOS to have it as your main OS? [08:49] read a lot of txt files? [08:49] everything [08:49] wordperfect [08:49] planperfect [08:49] gws [08:49] turbopascal [08:49] they have a lynx type webbrowser [08:50] etc [08:50] grazymax (~grazymax@host141-154-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:50] it was an old 286 with 1Mb Ram [08:50] i had been soldering a D/A converter so i could play music through lpt1 [08:51] 20Mb HD [08:51] was there ever a 186? I have heard of 286, 386, 486, but never of 186 [08:51] mrcarrot, a real monster! :-P [08:52] i had one that maybe could be that... it was a pc but older than 286... only 640kb RAM [08:52] and two DD floppy stations [08:52] mrcarrot: do you hacve a license for those DD's [08:52] lol [08:52] i do not remeber the name of the processor anymore [08:52] maybe it was a 8086 or 8088? [08:53] at least the processor name ended with 86 [08:53] that i know [08:53] maybe 8086 [08:53] once computers get below the 286 level, I get confused really fast [08:54] yay. nothing like a local kernel exploit [08:54] as i had only 20Mb hd in my 286, i never had windblows installed. otherwise i would not get borland c and pascal installed [08:55] i used a program for compressing the whole hd... [08:55] but still it was way too litle with 20Mb [08:55] funny times... [08:55] that drive is totally useless today [08:56] was a 80186 but it didnt see much use in pc [08:57] was used alot elsewhere though, pretty standart on early multibus ethernet cards [08:57] windows98 (~win98@host184-197-dynamic.10-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:58] im sure oneday 1 TB will be too small [08:58] i hope not... that means bloat [08:58] mrcarrot: you're seriously confused [08:59] well 10 years ago could you buy a 1TB drive? like was it standard? [08:59] data keeps growing. it has nothing to do with 'bloat' [08:59] ya, i dont see it as program bloat, its all the multimedia, sound, games, video [09:00] ananke: yeah, 10+ megapixel cameras making hugh jpgs... when i can not see any difference to 5mp [09:00] mrcarrot: you can't see the difference in canvas size? [09:00] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [09:00] i see it as bloat to make data to take more space also... they should make better quality instead [09:01] No, singular view is becoming common place. "I'm right; you're wrong. My way or the highway!" [09:01] yeah 3mp is all you really need [09:01] i had one 3.2mp camera that made really good pictures. many of those 10+mp cameras are having much iso-noise etc [09:01] mrcarrot: right. because higher resolution is not considered higher quality [09:01] mrcarrot: if you're comparing a camera with good glass and sensor to a phone one, then you fail from the get go [09:02] in a camera i want quality pixels, not quantity of bad ones [09:02] try comparing a first generation DSLR with current ones [09:02] and just because your 480p monitor suffices now, it doesn't mean it will be a standard 10 years from now [09:02] if your a professional photographer then you need a lot of MP but everyone else only needs 3.2 [09:03] ananke: my point is, we have enough of resolution etc.... just need to make better sensors [09:03] KaMii: why should i limit myself to 3.2? [09:03] you don't like bad colors and blurry images? [09:03] I DO! [09:03] er.. wait [09:03] ananke: not to 3.2 but maybe to 10... then the data will not grow from now forward [09:03] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:04] data is exponetial [09:04] mrcarrot: sure it will. [09:04] it will always grow [09:04] at least.. that's what she said [09:04] [ in bed ] [09:04] i am afraid it will... but i hope it will not [09:04] ananke: its called style and creativity, who wants clean and crisp, its too mainstream [09:04] hell, i have equipment in our labs that spits out 8TB worth of images in a week. few years ago it was maybe dozens of gigs [09:05] KaMii: you're not making much sense. how is limitation of resolution suddenly 'style and creativity'? [09:05] it's a _limitiation_. [09:05] i was joking [09:05] I think KaMii's attempt at sarcasm may have been missed [09:05] okay, i have to go now... workday ended. [09:05] cause she doesn't put the proper emphasis on things like.. whateva! [09:05] mrcarrot (lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) left ##slackware. [09:05] /etc/rc.d/rc.sarcasmd restart [09:05] i didn't see it as sarcasm, considering it was against her original point [09:06] i have a 8.5 mp camera, i dont think I would ever need something better [09:06] Dominian: word! [09:06] hehe [09:06] orly!? [09:06] RLY! [09:06] KaMii: why 8.5? shouldn't 3.2 be sufficient for you? [09:07] ananke: you out of beer? [09:07] what do you gain besides bloat? [09:07] i got if as a present [09:07] Dominian: nah. it's friday [09:07] so im not complaining [09:07] Skywise: resolution. [09:07] ananke: just making sure.. you seem extra cranky this morning ;) [09:07] Dominian: did you see the 0 day linux kernel exploit? :) [09:07] either that or I need to stop switching windows so fast.. makes it LOOK like you're cranky hehe [09:07] unless you're gonna zoom in or print its meaning less detail [09:08] ananke: I 'heard' about it... [09:08] I haven't read anything on it yet [09:08] did it go to LKML? [09:08] http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2010/Sep/268 [09:08] aw crap [09:08] Action: Dominian reads [09:08] fun stuff. x86_64 kernels affected. same issue that was there before [09:08] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Quit: life(); [09:09] it would be nice if cameras could analyze a scene and then pick the optimal res for you tho [09:09] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [09:09] "Ac1dB1tch3z", bah [09:09] http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/09/17/0247246/HDCP-Master-Key-Is-Legitimate-Blu-ray-Is-Cracked?from=rss [09:09] ananke: interesting.. [09:09] Skywise: so again, why should i limit myself in the first place? with higher resolution i can crop it to my liking later, or print it if i want to [09:09] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:09] ananke: Well, the only machines I have that are 64bit are my laptop and desktop at home.. my slackware server is 32bit and runs grsecurity.. [09:10] anake, because you run out of space so much faster, you limit the number of pics you can get on your media [09:10] Skywise: they sorta can, if I leave my camera on RAW setting, I can change the speed, fstop, everything, afterwards on the computer [09:10] storage is cheap today. i'd rather take as high resolution as i can, so 10 years from today i won't be regretting not having the details [09:10] raw is even more bloated [09:10] Skywise: again, space is cheap [09:10] christ.. NOW they push the Thunderbird update to windows [09:10] why do they have to make it *that* painful to read? :P [09:10] its been in openSUSE for a week now! [09:11] but how often do you look at your pics? [09:11] bloat = fat, fat = happy [09:11] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:11] and then those images get harder to work with [09:11] Skywise: often enough. and most important, i have the option. not taking high res photos is silly. your savings in storage are a drop in the bucket on grand scheme of things [09:12] well, i think composition matters more then res [09:12] and if you really want high res, well theres always film [09:14] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.134.209) joined ##slackware. [09:14] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.134.209) left irc: Changing host [09:14] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [09:14] Skywise: lack of resolution means you can't recompose it later [09:14] and film is a different medium, so it's hardly an issue in this discussion [09:16] anyone recommend some simple video editing software... i just want to merge some clips into some sort of sequence [09:16] and maybe add some still photo's to it [09:16] phrag: maybe kino [09:16] there's a pretty good one in qt4 I think [09:16] think i've played with that before actually [09:16] cool, will check that out, thanks =) [09:16] grazymax (~grazymax@host240-22-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:17] I'm still trying to hunt down a decent screencast tool that doesn't make the screen look like total ass and jump everywhere [09:17] thrice`: Avidemux [09:17] ? [09:17] phrag, you might be able to use dvd mastering software as well [09:17] Dominian: vlc not do it ? [09:17] vlc could record and stream your desktop, if that's what your looking for [09:18] kdenlive ? [09:18] mastering software will let you sequence your video, make bookmarks and chapters [09:18] as well as menus [09:18] phrag: Well, I'm looking for something that.. you see people doing like youtube videos of their desktop [09:19] but why not recordmydesktop? [09:19] i've used xvidrecord in the past, worked well [09:19] erm, xvidcap [09:19] recordmydesktop works well too [09:20] thrice`: ah cool, will check that out too, cheers =) [09:21] I've tested recordmydesktop... [09:22] tried instanbul as well [09:22] wehen you look atht eplay back.. it jumps.. doesn't appear to be 'real time' [09:23] perhaps lowering the capture res would improve speed ? [09:23] but i guess you want full resolution [09:23] I can definitely try that [09:23] I'll mess with a bit [09:26] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:28] Nick change: Stx -> Stx_ [09:28] Nick change: Stx_ -> Stx [09:28] I remember screen capture can eat a lot of cpu [09:29] Dominian: how many cpu cores on the machine? [09:29] so do javascript [09:29] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: _marc` [09:29] adrien: quad-core [09:29] ideally, you'd save in a low-compression format but one that can be encoded quickly and reprocess afterwards [09:30] Yeah I'll have to experiment with it.. I don't know much about it hehe [09:31] simplex (~simplex@twopenguins.it) left irc: Quit: x [09:31] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-146.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:32] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. 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[10:35] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:36] errordeveloper: are you sure your battery is charged when taking it out of hibernation? [10:37] what happens when you hibernate it on a full battery or while its plugged in, then take it out of hybernation? [10:38] How much free HDD space do you have, and how much RAM do you have? IIRC Hybernation susspends to HDD, so if your HDD does not have enough space, then theres your problem [10:38] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [10:52] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:53] dissociative (~alejandro@190.71.63.106) joined ##slackware. [10:53] _marc` (~marc@ip-80-226-13-55.vodafone-net.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:54] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-166-185.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:59] Mowah (~Mowah@c-e580e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. 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[11:13] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:13] personally, I buy HP printers and hplip _always_ autodetects the printer [11:14] s/buy/buy supported/ [11:14] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [11:15] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A562.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [11:15] alisonken1home hmmm i have an hp printer too, with hplip installed...and ofcourse works pretty well...but i travel a lot... [11:16] i need print recognition as in ubuntu...i'm trying to get it working in slackware [11:17] Nick change: Bugz__ -> Bugz [11:17] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:18] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-76-50.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:18] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-76-50.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:35] asarch (~asarch@187.132.140.248) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:40] KaMii: hybernation works okay [11:40] it just gets into a hybernate-wakeup-hybernate cycle when the battery is low [11:40] basically it falls a sleep when battery is at 2% [11:41] and when you turn it on, it again hybernates [11:43] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:43] saTTY (~saTTY@218.248.80.49) joined ##slackware. [11:45] simplex (~simplex@twopenguins.it) left irc: Quit: x [11:46] saTTY (~saTTY@218.248.80.49) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:47] maybe the battery has to be above a certain threshold [11:48] kickback (~kick@122.176.198.90) joined ##slackware. [11:48] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:50] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:52] have you tried letting it recharge a bit before turning it back on? 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[12:36] voodoo usually. [12:36] seriously? [12:37] and the phase of the moon. [12:37] ... [12:37] Whats the command it uses if it isn't ifconfig? [12:38] why do you think that slackware doesn't use ifconfig? [12:38] I don't know [12:39] I just thought it was a standard? :/ [12:39] Its all I've used since I've started linux (next to wicd) [12:39] BP{k}: because it's been deprecated in some ways for many years, in favour of iproute2? (Which is just awesome) [12:39] Ž_Ž [12:40] :\ [12:40] This doesn't explain anything to me lol [12:40] Edogaa: the slackware network scripts are very thin wrappers around ifconfig [12:40] slackware doesn't use ifconfig? [12:40] there's nothing stopping you from using ifconfig, at all [12:40] you can use ip or ifconfig [12:41] and slackware 'uses' it [12:41] bash-4.1$ ifconfig bash: ifconfig: command not found [12:41] are you root? [12:41] :p [12:41] it's in frickin rc.inet1 [12:41] Oh [12:41] or have you modified your existing path? [12:41] silly fred .. "$" <-- duh. [12:41] BP{k}: some people are just lazy setting custom $PS1 [12:41] :p [12:41] :| [12:41] whoami! [12:41] edgar. [12:41] you need root [12:41] well done .. you know your name :P [12:42] if you want to check something, alter $PATH, or use /sbin/ifconfig in full [12:42] Action: mishehu puffs on a hookah and blows smoke while saying "whooooooo are you?" [12:42] if you want to change something, use sudo or su [12:42] mishehu: you are hardly mishehu. [12:42] :| I know that much [12:42] mishehu: :) [12:42] fred: give me a while [12:42] its just that usually when I use a root command I'm used to getting [12:42] Cr1kk4 (fabio@93-45-72-59.ip101.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [12:42] "permission denied!" [12:42] or something akin to that [12:43] so where's the hatter? [12:47] Alan_Hicks ? [12:47] akSeya (bd0b4142@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.11.65.66) joined ##slackware. [12:48] hi there.. guys.. i just installed slackware 64bits... lilo is taking too long to load the kernel... [12:48] what was the option to add on lilo.conf? "compress" [12:48] compact [12:48] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [12:48] akSeya, lol...is "compact" [12:48] compat.. thanks aziztcf [12:48] compat.. compres.. almost the same thing :D [12:48] ;) [12:48] lol [12:49] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Quit: Quitte [12:49] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [12:50] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Client Quit [12:51] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:52] muuuch better ;) [12:52] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [12:52] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [12:52] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:54] greedy_anonymous (~V@110-4-112-92.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [12:55] do you do anything to speed up boot time? if yes, what? [12:56] hi, guys. i have a question: when you build yor own kernel - you make install it or create slackpackage? if it is package variant - how you did it? [12:57] P.S. sorry for my bad english [12:57] This is how I build my kernels (no package): http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=linux:kernelbuilding [12:57] i usually install it directly [12:58] i usually install it directly too [12:58] but i dont compile a kernel for a long time [12:58] using slackwares generic kernel for now [12:59] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:59] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:59] i "cp /arch/x86/boot/bzImage /boot/blah" [13:00] make install :P [13:00] and when you want to delete old version - you just rm /boot/vmlinuz-X and rm -r /lib/modules/X? [13:00] 2.6.29.5/ 2.6.29.6/ 2.6.30/ 2.6.31-rc1/ 2.6.31-rc4/ 2.6.31-rc6/ 2.6.32-rc2/ 2.6.32-rc8/ 2.6.33/ 2.6.33-rc1/ 2.6.33-rc2/ 2.6.33-rc3/ 2.6.33-rc4/ 2.6.34-rc3/ 2.6.34-rc4/ 2.6.35+/ 2.6.35-rc2+/ 2.6.35-rc3/ 2.6.35-rc3+/ 2.6.35-rc4+/ 2.6.35-rc5+/ 2.6.36-rc2+/ 2.6.36-rc3+/ [13:01] might be a good idea to clean this folder I guess :P (23 subfolders) [13:02] adrien, go back to redhat. [13:02] or fedora [13:02] notKlaatu (~klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:02] jeev: I can't go _back_, never used them =) [13:03] thank you for your answers, guys P.S. alienBOB: thanks for link [13:05] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-166-185.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:09] kickback (~kick@122.176.198.90) left irc: Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-090423]: i've been blurred! [13:13] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [13:15] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:17] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:19] lambdatronic (~user@132.198.166.49) joined ##slackware. [13:20] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [13:20] troy (~troy@dsl-69-172-72-39.acanac.net) joined ##slackware. [13:20] Howdy folks. Is there any word on a libv4l package for 13.1? [13:21] v4nelle (~van@79.107.251.101) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:21] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:23] troy__ (~troy@69.172.108.129) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:23] what does that mean? [13:25] ?? [13:25] thrice`: are you talking to me? [13:25] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [13:25] have you used the internet before? ;) [13:26] Ah. a troll... [13:26] l/v4l-utils-0.8.0-i486-1.txz: Added. [13:26] This replaces the libv4l package. [13:26] there's your 'word' :> [13:26] Hmm... [13:26] why called thrice` instaed of thrice [13:27] Why called sdi [13:27] maybe thrice was already taken :> [13:28] *very* good,alien [13:28] I keep on thinking why I have it [13:28] slackie_ (~x@bl21-11-43.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [13:29] <[hireme]rhisa> lambdatronic, thrice is not a troll. [13:29] Thanks for the info, thrice`. [13:30] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC3E2.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:30] Yeah, I see that now. That whole "have you used the internet before?" shtick certainly raised that flag for me though. [13:30] I thought my question was perfectly well worded. An insult didn't seem necessary. [13:30] Anyway, I got my answer. Thanks. [13:30] lambdatronic, well, you asked a question, and I answered it, and your response was funny :) nothing serious, sorry for the confusion [13:32] No worries. [13:32] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [13:36] #slackware is totally logged since 2004.this is rare [13:36] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [13:38] no, my steak is rare [13:39] Roin (~florian@p5B2BCEEB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:39] <[hireme]rhisa> Ya you can never have your privacy. [13:43] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:44] why do some systray items [13:44] not show in XFCE? [13:45] what systray ? [13:45] XFCE doesn't use any systray? [13:45] o_O At all? [13:46] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A562.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [13:46] viriatus (~viriatus@189.107.75.182) joined ##slackware. [13:47] no, I asked which systray [13:47] in XFCE? [13:47] you seem to be assuming that tehre is an application called "the systray" [13:47] where the icons go for some programs you ;'close' [13:47] No [13:47] each WM/DE has a different one [13:47] But something [13:48] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:48] with the same purpose [13:48] XFCE runs on GTK+, so theoretically, anything that supports that [13:48] but it does have a tray component that you can dock in the panel, yes [13:48] Drakevr (~drakevr@ppp-94-66-173-123.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:48] Drakevr (~drakevr@ppp-94-66-173-123.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Changing host [13:48] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [13:48] however, every application needs to be written to use that. again, there is no functionality called "the systray" [13:49] ratono (~ratono@unaffiliated/ratono) joined ##slackware. [13:49] although there may be something similar defined in opendesktop, but that isn't used or respected by all window managers [13:50] Action: adaptr switches to xcfe later tonight - tired of waiting for KDE to finish drawing...the...damn...windows.... [13:51] akSeya (bd0b4142@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.11.65.66) left irc: Quit: Page closed [13:51] Edogaa yes xfce uses the term "panel" [13:52] hi, i have install slack 13.1 with cd1, some way to completely install software sets from Internet now? [13:52] that is where icons for windows that iconify go. [13:52] ratono: slackpkg [13:52] mancha: I thought that was a different type of panel [13:52] yeah, option? [13:52] I know you can iconify windows outside the main panel [13:52] slackpkg --help [13:52] viriatus: ^_^ [13:53] ratono: install .... really, man man. then man brain. then man trade-brain. [13:53] yes, within a panel you place a "taskbar" in xfce-speak. [13:53] this is what i believe Edgoober meant as "systray" [13:53] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-166-185.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:53] I've never been able to add an icon window to the main panel.. it's a panel of its own. and a systray is not a taskbar :) [13:54] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [13:54] mm I'll switch monitors too, I think. [13:54] lambdatronic (user@132.198.166.49) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [13:54] oh sorry, "slackpkg --help" doen't exist, it uses "slackpkg help" :) [13:56] mps31 (~mps@82.132.248.124) joined ##slackware. [13:56] ...or just "slackpkg" [13:57] Nick change: guax -> SOUL_OF_GUAX [13:57] Nick change: SOUL_OF_GUAX -> guax [13:57] mps31 (~mps@82.132.248.124) left irc: Client Quit [13:58] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:59] StarX (~StarX@201.87.127.7) joined ##slackware. [13:59] StarX (~StarX@201.87.127.7) left irc: Changing host [13:59] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [14:00] adaptr: it was reading the man, yeah, i don't understand everything because my english is very baddddd, oh! PATTERN (soft sets) ok, sorry, i'm a stupid mannnn ^_^ [14:00] do read man trade-brain though, perhaps you can trade up :) [14:00] adaptr: initially,. man slackpkg | grep -i sets ---> empty search [14:01] viriatus, adaptr: thx a lot [14:02] In the complete default install, what tools are there to get the hardware info? framebuffer info for now. [14:02] OMG grep -i series [14:03] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [14:03] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:05] imroot (~imroot@189.75.126.205) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:06] kleanchap: lshw, lspci -v, lsusb, dmesg, cat /proc/cpuinfo, examine /dev, read udev logs [14:06] do you want fries with that ? 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[14:35] hey guys, when I run python and some threads are running in it, and it has an error [14:35] I press ctrl + c and it doesn't do anything [14:35] so I have to press ctrl + z then killall python [14:35] is there a better way [14:35] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] the signal is probably getting raised as an exception and whichever thread catches it ignores the exception [14:37] frk (~jcn@189.58.222.26.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:37] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:37] if you have a loop running inside an exception block, make sure that you catch the signal exception type (I cant remember the name of the class) explicitly [14:38] imroot (~imroot@189.75.126.205) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:38] yeah but what if I'm not the one who wrote it and I need to kill the process [14:38] ctrl + C isn't a super kill thing [14:38] and ctrl z + killall seems a bad way [14:38] Allan_Equ1n0x (~allan@189.108.182.146) joined ##slackware. [14:38] if it ignores sigint you have to kill it some other way [14:39] how [14:39] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:39] kill -9 [14:39] does it write a pidfile? [14:39] no [14:39] I just run it [14:39] ctrl-\ usually does the trick [14:39] ok let me try that [14:40] what's the difference between \ and c [14:41] ctrl-\ sends SIGQUIT [14:41] ctrl-c is SIGINT [14:41] is SIGQUIT more powerful [14:42] like why did they add two, what does one do that the other doesn't [14:42] theyre both just numbers but applications dont generally install a handler for sigquit [14:42] although python itself may trap it, it'll probably still exit [14:43] yeah sigquit works, thanks very much [14:43] I'm working with pyinotify so that helps [14:43] http://www.cons.org/cracauer/sigint.html [14:44] yah threads and signals are not simple to mix [14:46] Allan_Equ1n0x (~allan@189.108.182.146) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:46] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [14:47] frk (~jcn@189.58.222.26.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:48] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] hello [14:50] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:50] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:57] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [14:57] frk (~jcn@189.58.222.26.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:57] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [14:58] p0l0n88 [15:01] chomping (chomping@unaffiliated/chomping) left ##slackware. [15:02] is there a way to [15:02] GooseYArd (GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left ##slackware. [15:02] 'switch users' [15:02] in XFCE? [15:02] stay logged on but switch to a new user [15:02] <[hireme]rhisa> Does anyone here use firefox with khanacademy? [15:02] <[hireme]rhisa> Any way to speed it up? [15:02] <[hireme]rhisa> It's so slow. :( [15:03] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:04] BTW, thinking about getting just GDM, yea or nay? D: (doesn't like LXDM lol) [15:04] the option is not to use it [hireme]rhisa >.> [15:04] <[hireme]rhisa> I need it. [15:05] Mowah (~Mowah@c-e580e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:06] asarch (~asarch@189.188.144.254) joined ##slackware. [15:08] asarch (~asarch@189.188.144.254) left irc: Client Quit [15:08] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [15:08] asarch (~asarch@189.188.144.254) joined ##slackware. [15:08] need? wtf does it do? [15:08] asarch (~asarch@189.188.144.254) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:08] <[hireme]rhisa> Helps me build my calculus skills. [15:09] ... [15:09] you need a good calculus book [15:09] <[hireme]rhisa> Really. Google it. [15:09] lazy ass [15:09] <[hireme]rhisa> lolwut, how am I lazy? [15:09] asarch (~asarch@189.188.144.254) joined ##slackware. [15:10] asarch (~asarch@189.188.144.254) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:10] asarch (~asarch@189.188.144.254) joined ##slackware. [15:11] you don't "need" it... so keep on with your bitching :P [15:11] Evilaz (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:11] <[hireme]rhisa> You are not making sense at alll. [15:11] <[hireme]rhisa> Go away now. [15:11] artvdroid (~androirc@125.sub-70-209-180.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [15:12] you're complaining about a project that still has bugs... get on the mailing list and help them fix it [15:12] bandeira (~bandeira@186.212.113.114) joined ##slackware. [15:12] <[hireme]rhisa> You just said you don't know what it is. [15:12] <[hireme]rhisa> Are you a liar now? [15:13] i looked it up [15:13] oh, stop, both [15:13] Action: Necos stabs adrien [15:14] Action: Necos cheers on random violence [15:14] yeah, that's better :P [15:15] :) [15:16] long time no see adrien :P [15:17] yeah, you left at some point and then, it was my turn ;-) [15:17] lol [15:18] artvdroid (~androirc@125.sub-70-209-180.myvzw.com) left irc: Quit: Bye [15:18] between work, quantum mechanics, thermostatistical mechanics, and computational materials theory, ther'es not much time for IRC these days :) [15:18] *there's [15:19] ah, not yet done building your death ray I see :P [15:19] nope! [15:19] when i was at princeton, it was hydrogen fuel cell material research... now that i'm back on the west coast, it's back to my physics :) [15:21] looks like you're touching every field, when are you coming to the CERN :P [15:21] ? [15:21] lol [15:21] hopefully i'll get to blow something up in the nuclear lab at my uni next semester :D [15:22] ah, at last, nice ;p [15:22] artvdroid (~androirc@125.sub-70-209-180.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [15:22] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:23] wing0 (~heero@187.56.17.88) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:23] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:25] philpp (~phil@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:25] i'll be doing 3 semesters of computational materials research tho... i'm having to learn a metric fuckton of solid state physics >.<; [15:25] How do I enable japanese, foreign input? [15:25] UIM? D: [15:25] scim [15:25] :/ Hmm, I prefer UIM! D: [15:26] if you prefer it then you must know how to use it! [15:26] slackware uses scim by default, ibus if you use the slackbuild / sbopkg [15:26] it actually worked accross every application I've ever used :O [15:26] ibus [15:26] Action: Edogaa hisses. [15:26] i use ibus personally [15:26] Action: Edogaa showers your PC in holy water. [15:26] DX [15:26] so should I enable other locales? [15:28] SLM-tecra (~fake.emai@70-36-146-98.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:28] ratono (~ratono@unaffiliated/ratono) left irc: Quit: Arreando [15:29] Edogaa, you need ibus [15:29] No! D: [15:29] Action: Edogaa panics. [15:29] Edogaa, then you install ibus-anthy [15:29] artvdroid (~androirc@125.sub-70-209-180.myvzw.com) left irc: Quit: Bye [15:29] Action: Edogaa commits harakiri. [15:29] lol [15:30] did not see the recent post [15:30] my bad :( [15:32] heh [15:32] it's ok, if you want UIM, you're gonna have to figure it out yourself [15:33] okay [15:33] but ibus works well for me [15:33] HISSS! [15:34] Seriously though, I could never like ibus :/ [15:34] Action: Necos slaps Edogaa [15:34] I kid when I overreact [15:34] with the hissing though. [15:34] it has it's quirks, but it works for what i need it to do with japanese [15:34] Ah [15:35] works with openoffice and firefox.. . good enough for me :) [15:37] openoffice should increase the rate of its precompiled releases [15:38] must be a bitch to compile [15:38] dissociative (~alejandro@190.71.63.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:38] Roin (~florian@p5B2BCEEB.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: changing machines [15:39] mancha: they can't, they're short on CPU power for compilation /o\ [15:39] Roin (~florian@p5B2BCEEB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] it took forever when i tried it (and it's horridly complicated) [15:41] a group forked something they call go-oo (ugly name, i know). one of the things they boast is a simpler build process. [15:42] yeah, go-oo is interesting [15:43] mancha: one of the guys involved in go-oo is building software for windows (gcc, cygwin, everything) [15:43] he told me a build for windows takes him a day (not 8 hours, something like 15 iirc) [15:43] so you know why they want a simpler build process ;-) [15:44] lol [15:44] adrien, that's depressing [15:44] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-56-60.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:45] there are two main reasons: cygwin (spawning a process is really slow ther) and openoffice bundling every library it depends on [15:45] like, if it depends on libjpeg, it will compile it for itself [15:45] (on windows that is) [15:45] so it has to compile EVERYTHING for itself >.> [15:46] it's really a big build on windows [15:46] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-154-185-62.range109-154.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:49] mozilla is doing this too often for my taste: scheduled stable release followed a few days later by a fox the release. latest example: tbird 3.0.8 [15:49] fox the = fix for the [15:49] (don't ask me why my kb did that) [15:50] what I'd like is mozilla devs to learn how to number their release: 3.6.4 (separating plugins iirc) should have been a 3.7 for instance [15:50] lol [15:50] point release fails [15:50] and there should have been a few releases between 3.0 and 3.5 [15:51] I know they wanted to change how they were numbering, but the current numbers don't even fit what they announced they wanted to do [15:51] i don't care about the number, i just want them to be more careful with point releases [15:51] well, they kinda fubar'd when they did 3.6 [15:52] they can call it firefox 4549.10.A-release gamma for all i care as long as it works. [15:52] wxPython is still compiling >.> [15:53] 2.8.x ? [15:53] / [15:53] updating sbo stuff on my desktop here [15:53] *here at work [15:53] mancha: I kinda care about numbering because it does mean something [15:53] well, it "should" [15:54] 2.8.11... i always remember this compile being slow as molasses [15:54] when i code i like to number my releases backwards [15:55] when i get to version 0 i start with my next project. [15:55] countdown to fail? >.> [15:55] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-154-185-62.range109-154.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:55] countdown to success! :) [15:55] lol [15:56] what do you start with then? [15:56] 2.8.11.0 is not "so" slow [15:56] try compiling qt or gnash for the ultimate experience. [15:56] lots of deprecation warnings [15:56] oh, qt is a behemoth [15:58] Equ1n0x (~allan@189.108.182.146) joined ##slackware. [15:59] yukiti (~yukiti@189-11-219-114.cpece700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:59] hi [15:59] I need help, someone help me? [15:59] hi, well, ask a question and we'll see :P [15:59] ask and ye might receive... [15:59] just ask - if someone knows, they'll usually pipe up. [16:00] lol [16:00] i update my kernel.. and my X crashes when I try to open any application [16:00] which graphic driver, which desktop environment? [16:01] and from which kernel to which kernel? [16:02] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:02] yes [16:02] 2.6.35.4 [16:03] my graphic board is Mobile IntelŪ HD Graphics [16:03] it's Core iX, right? [16:04] yes [16:04] i5 m430 [16:04] and i saw wich my graphic board work with on kernel-2.6.35.4 [16:06] whoch graphic environment? and why did you upgrade your kernel? [16:07] if i not change any configuration on desktop, stay all normal... no crash [16:07] kde [16:07] stupid bug of the day: if I press 's' (screenshot) in mplayer while playing music (no video), mplayer crashes (bad focus) [16:08] what do you mean don't change the config? what do you change exactly, [16:08] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-178-216.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:08] because my graphic board is accepted in kernel-2.6.35.4 [16:09] I want to change to enable graphics effects, like the Compiz [16:10] and resolution [16:10] ok, I'm actually thinking these effects are currently the crashers [16:10] ruben23 (~ITadmin@125.212.40.2) joined ##slackware. [16:11] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:11] support is quite recent and there are some effects when opening applications so it may be the reason (suposition so far) [16:11] frk (~jcn@189.58.222.26.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:12] so I'd probably avoid them for now: can you try with such effects disabled? [16:13] the effect works for some time when I abilites, after a while when I run some application of the graphical environment it hangs [16:14] frk (~jcn@189.58.222.26.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:14] frk (~jcn@189.58.222.26.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:14] frk (~jcn@189.58.222.26.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:14] hi guys i have an exisiting slackware server- i added a new sata disck how do i check its detected by the system..? [16:15] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:15] fdisk -l should list it? [16:15] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420764.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:16] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420764.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:16] yukiti: and if you don't enable them at all, does it end up hanging? [16:16] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [16:16] mancha:---> http://pastebin.com/hxyDi6QK what should i don next..? i need the 250 hardisk be emty so i can copy files form my 500Gb Hdd on it... [16:17] yes [16:17] cfdisk /dev/sdb or whatever it is [16:18] another problem is the acpi..... =/ [16:18] ruben, if you want to nuke what is one it then i would use one of the *disc (cfdisk is fine) to remove partition 1,2,3 [16:18] have solution? [16:18] then make a new partition 1 that is the whole drive, then make an fs onit, say ext3 or 4 [16:18] yukiti: I think you need to stay on the old-reliable side of things until next kernel release [16:19] it'd also probably take an updated xorg [16:19] I know someone here has similar hardware but he's not connected right now [16:23] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:23] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [16:23] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [16:23] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:24] asarch (~asarch@189.188.144.254) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:25] when will the next slackware? [16:25] i'd like to buy a verb... [16:25] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-27-58.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:26] any slackers want a game of starcraft2 ? [16:26] got micro? [16:26] trial? [16:27] i've got a trial key actually for any familiar faces =) [16:28] its a nice game from what i know playing trial for a limit of 10 hours or something [16:28] still active? [16:28] nah [16:28] i'll give you a match [16:28] aw =P [16:29] i played it under the minimum systemrequirements [16:29] was ok [16:29] exbio (~ada@189.178.147.165) joined ##slackware. [16:29] exbio (~ada@189.178.147.165) left irc: Changing host [16:29] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [16:31] phrag: not buying it until I can play real LAN [16:35] pff, buy? [16:35] i played it already.. got tired of it and it didn't cost me a dime ;D [16:35] you suck [16:35] i'm kidding! [16:35] i would never pirate! [16:36] butt-pirate that is. [16:37] philpp (~phil@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:37] a close friend of mine have it so I can play as much as I want but I'm not even considering buying it without actual lan support [16:38] sdi (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sdi) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:38] darkrho (~darkrho@84.39.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:40] yay, it wasnt the HDD, it was the SATA cable [16:40] KaMii: bad cable or just reseating the cable? [16:41] yukiti (~yukiti@189-11-219-114.cpece700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:41] bad cable [16:41] sdi (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sdi) joined ##slackware. [16:42] I tried reseating it many times and even tried multible SATA ports, and everytime I had HDD errors, I changed the cable, 0 errors [16:44] that happens occasionally [16:44] macius (~macius@bas2-toronto09-1176406161.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:44] well, at least it's solved now KaMii [16:45] ya, im happy now I know what the problem was [16:45] thanks everyone for the help [16:46] hey i just installed slackware 13.1 base system, *just A folder, and got gsb to play with, with slackpkg i grabbed x and set xorg.conf to use vesa, althought when i start x my mouse nor my keyboard work [16:46] any ideas what i did wrong? [16:46] only installed A folder [16:47] you need to install ap for hal, i believe [16:47] =S, my guess is i dont have hald and dbus starting up, but i have them set to load on boot =S [16:47] ap? [16:47] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Quit: Quitte [16:48] you said you only installed a, right? [16:48] adaptr (~adaptr@xs.adaptr.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:48] adaptr (~adaptr@xs.adaptr.nl) left irc: Changing host [16:48] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) joined ##slackware. [16:48] a/, ap/, l/, x/ are required [16:48] yeah but i grab other packages via slackpkg [16:48] kk i dont think i got l or ap [16:48] which means you're missing ap, l, and d, which are required [16:48] perfect kk ty for the help [16:49] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [16:49] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.101.81) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:49] ashe (~ashe@125.166.161.238) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:50] hm lol sorry havent used slackware in a bit, does slackpkg have a feature to grab the entire folder? or is there a different utility to do that [16:50] reading man page but im not seeing anything [16:50] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Client Quit [16:50] ashe (~ashe@125.166.161.238) joined ##slackware. [16:50] slackpkg is designed for per-package only for selection, not groups of packages, [16:51] asteroid (~asteroid@78.119.84.68) joined ##slackware. [16:51] asteroid (~asteroid@78.119.84.68) left irc: Changing host [16:51] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [16:51] you can create templates tho [16:51] you can queue up the builds and sort which packages get built in specific orders, though [16:53] ugh alright kk [16:53] darkrho (~darkrho@84.39.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) joined ##slackware. [16:53] ty once again [16:54] did that with ardour - selected dependent packages and queued them up for building after I went to bed [16:54] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:55] that's for sbopkg tho... >.> [16:55] yep [16:55] handy package to have installed :) [16:56] he was asking about slackpkg :P [16:56] Equ1n0x (~allan@189.108.182.146) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:56] duh - serves me right for getting on here whe the dog wakes me up to go outside after only 3 hours sleep [16:56] lol [16:56] macius: I believe slackpkg allows you to select a series - like "slackkpg install a/" [16:57] you dont need the / [16:57] if i recall [16:57] (don't use a/, ap/, n/, l/ though - that's part of base system) [16:57] he only had a/ installed >.> [16:57] jeev: possible - been a while since I did a base install, then slackpkg installing the rest [16:58] if he didn't have l/ or n/ installed, slackpkg won't work unless he points mirror to dvd [16:58] sorry i was just reading about how slackpkg templates work, hmm so your actually able to get entire folders with slackpkg? [16:58] so he needs to l/ ap/ n/ [16:58] veritos (~veritos@207.155.204.151.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [16:58] macius: should be able to [16:58] ken, you ever monitor traffic by ip on a subnet ? [16:59] but keep in mind, untill you have networking, slackpkg will only work with the official dvd or a local repository mirror [16:59] huh i just tried 'slackpkg install l', and it returned no packages match this pattern [16:59] jeev: monitored the servers at the office, but that's about it [16:59] that's with snmp [16:59] yeah im able to retrive from slackware servers [16:59] macius: edit /etc/slackpkg/mirrors and point it to your local dvd [16:59] mirrors** [17:00] i set up networking that isent the problem [17:00] lol [17:00] then try "slackpkg install l/" with the slash [17:00] same output [17:00] no packages [17:00] did you "slackpkg update" first? [17:00] =S [17:00] yeah [17:00] needs to update it's list [17:00] ok - try it with mirror pointing to your local dvd [17:01] i was grabbing x packages manually lol, everything is set up in that sense, didnt know it was possible to get entire folders, but its not working [17:02] and thats were my problem lies, i only burnt disc 1, and assumed i would grab everything after via slackpkg, which im willing to do, but a speedup would be helpfull [17:02] was that cd1 or dvd1? [17:03] CD1 likely, the DVD has the sources [17:03] cd driver on my second computer isent working, so i burt it at a friends place [17:03] yeah cd1 [17:04] ok - try "slackpkg upgrade install-new l/ [17:04] or "slackpkg install-new" [17:05] or better yet - "slackpkg install slackware" [17:05] <[hireme]rhisa> alisonken1home, I hope all is well. [17:05] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-146.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:05] yeah i think install slackware will work the best [17:05] kk ty [17:06] [hireme]rhisa: doing fine here - how about you? [17:06] :\ i just didnt feel like having the 6 or 5 offered wms [17:06] <[hireme]rhisa> alisonken1home, tackling three tough problems. [17:06] you can always removepkg them [17:06] macius: you can also update /etc/slackpkg/blacklist to tell it to skip those wm packages [17:07] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [17:09] x-ip (~lain@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [17:11] hi ... i'm getting problems when trying to compile postfix 2.6.1 with cyrus-sasl support using cyrus-sasl 2.1.24 at a slackware 13 using the postfix Slackbuild and modified it as the SASL readme says in the postfix source [17:11] that's not very descriptive x-ip :P [17:12] xsasl_cyrus_server.c:77:18: error: sasl.h: No such file or directory <-- my problem is that it can't find sasl.h ... [17:12] I'm a bit slow when i type Necos hehe x'D [17:12] so installcyrus-sasl [17:12] so install cyrus-sasl [17:13] is cyrus-sasl the slackware packaged version? [17:13] i installed cyrus-sasl and sasl.h is at /usr/include/sasl/sasl.h [17:13] and nop, there is not a slackbuild for cyrus-sasl [17:13] ok so postfix is not finding it [17:13] like hell there isn't [17:13] which wms/des does slackware offer, *i remeber twm,fluxbox,blackbox,kde,xfce , am i missing any? [17:13] you do have /usr/include/sasl/sasl.h ? [17:14] macius, those and openbox [17:14] yep mancha , i have it [17:14] _tecra (~fake.emai@70-36-146-98.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [17:14] root@tessai:/var/log/packages# ls *sasl* [17:14] cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-i486-1 qca-cyrus-sasl-2.0.0_beta3-i486-1 [17:14] macius, and mwm technically, but we don't like to talk about that [17:14] x-ip where is the postfix build script from? [17:14] from slackbuilds [17:14] but i modified it a bit ... [17:14] uploading to a pastebin ... [17:15] did the unmodified version work? [17:15] the unmodified version doesnt have 'cyrus sasl' support [17:15] that's why it's needed to be modified :) [17:15] hah [17:15] ok pastebin your build mojo [17:16] lol x'D [17:16] and here is .... my super modifications ! http://pastebin.ca/1943117 x'D [17:17] Action: x-ip is getting hot .... [17:17] ok now add in mancha's super secret mods: -I/usr/include/sasl [17:17] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:18] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: Bye [17:18] Action: x-ip added the super secret mod from mancha .... and running postfix.Slackbuild again .... [17:19] well now seems i got access to a secret room or something ... i got a different error, yeah \o/ [17:19] this is like a MUD adventure. what's the new error? [17:19] vinisterx (~ryan@74-129-201-82.dhcp.insightbb.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:20] e-linux/4.3.3/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lsasl [17:20] right, it is-lsasl2 [17:20] right, it is -lsasl2 [17:20] on to secret room #3 [17:20] viriatus (~viriatus@189.107.75.182) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:20] vinisterx (~ryan@74-129-201-82.dhcp.insightbb.com) joined ##slackware. [17:20] Action: x-ip trying .... [17:23] mancha, thanks for your help ... seems i finished this level ;) [17:23] Slackware package /tmp/postfix-2.6.1-i486-1_SBo.tgz created. <-- Wiiiiiii \o/ [17:23] philpp (~phil@cpe-66-69-109-178.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:23] w00t w00t [17:28] x-ip, well done...but the princess is in another castle ;) [17:29] you mean there's a PRINCESS in this adventure? [17:29] x-ip (~lain@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:33] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@201.210.190.118) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:33] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [17:34] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:34] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Quit: 221 GoodBye - WeeChat 0.3.4-dev [17:35] hhgh (~hhgh@host217-41-27-169.in-addr.btopenworld.com) joined ##slackware. [17:36] Action: KaMii is a princess [17:36] :D [17:36] Action: Necos throws KaMii in a brothel [17:36] have fun [17:37] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:37] Action: fire|bird stabs Necos :P [17:37] Action: Necos stabs fire|bird [17:37] :D [17:38] Necos, How's it going stranger? :P [17:38] busy busy [17:42] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:43] Roin (~florian@p5B2BCEEB.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [17:43] is cyrus-sasl standard in slackware? [17:44] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@201.210.190.118) joined ##slackware. [17:46] mancha, Yes, but some of its authentication mechanisms are disabled as they use PAM, if I recall [17:46] hhgh (~hhgh@host217-41-27-169.in-addr.btopenworld.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:46] i wonder why the maintainer of postfix on sbo doesn't compile cyrus in then [17:47] i have a more advanced postfix slackbuild if you want it [17:48] i added database/cyrus/sasl/.. support into it [17:48] bandeira_ (~bandeira@186.212.113.114) joined ##slackware. [17:48] i also have a patched up cyrus slackbuild that supports database aswell, and some extras [17:49] i never got arround to submitting it to sbo, and im not the original maintainer, so it wouldnt work anyway :p [17:49] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:50] bandeira_ (~bandeira@186.212.113.114) left irc: Client Quit [17:51] am0rphis (~ewq@79.124.186.134) joined ##slackware. [17:51] bandeira (~bandeira@186.212.113.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:51] |Slacker| (1000@189.65.209.165) joined ##slackware. [17:51] cyrus-sasl is standard in slackware [17:51] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:52] mario thanks for the offer! :) i was commenting because i just helped someone tweak the SBO postfix script to include sasl supprt [17:52] yeah but it doesnt support databases by default, and it also compiles with /dev/random (some older servers need /dev/urandom) and such things, let me know if you want them, dont want to spam here:p [17:54] Nick change: Urugami -> Urugami_afk [17:54] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [17:55] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [17:55] mr-S^b43 (~Mr-S^b32@524B83CE.cm-4-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:56] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:56] Urugami_afk (~AndChat@0.sub-97-198-172.myvzw.com) left irc: Quit: Bye [17:57] Urugami (~AndChat@0.sub-97-198-172.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [17:58] sitwon (~adam@pool-108-18-101-134.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:58] wyggler2 (mvlewis@pilot.trilug.org) joined ##slackware. [18:03] spidertux (~spidertux@host109-104-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420764.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:03] tsuyoi (panda@shellium/member/giantpanda) joined ##slackware. [18:06] Mowah (~Mowah@c-e580e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [18:09] tsuyoi (panda@shellium/member/giantpanda) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:11] pete` (~user@023.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [18:12] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [18:13] nvision (~nvision@brln-4db8013e.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [18:13] nvision (~nvision@brln-4db8013e.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Changing host [18:13] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [18:13] the cmos battery in my server recently died and when I replaced it, I noticed the bios was reset. Now it doesn't see my sata secondary master drive. Any idea how to fix this? [18:13] go into your bios and fix it [18:14] mancha: I am in the bios, and I tried to autodetect the secondary master, as well as primary slave. It only sees the primary hard drive, but nothing else. [18:14] sata doesn't have master/slave like ide [18:14] contact your oem [18:15] sata is 1-1 correspondence [18:15] oh, so you're saying it won't be visible in bios then? [18:15] depends on bios adn other settings [18:15] you have to look at all your "enable" settings everywhere [18:15] and some of them are in oddball places [18:15] or you can change the auto setting and set it yourself (see if that works)? [18:16] what are cmos batteries usually spec'd for, lifetime wise [18:16] depends on how oftem your computer is without power [18:16] why? [18:16] because cmos is powered by p/s when available, otherwise it's powered by the cmos battery [18:16] your bios might set them as primary master / etc if it's in legacy or ide mode [18:16] depending on your system [18:17] ok, but the spec doesn'tcare [18:17] yourmom (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [18:17] nope - spec just says "I need x voltage level at y milliamps to keep memory active" [18:18] and the spec is on the nvram used [18:19] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:19] jemark (~mark@86-44-32-251-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [18:20] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:20] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:20] j0z (~JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:20] what i mean is that spec is in hours regardless of how often your machine is on. [18:20] mancha: alisonken1home: as it turns out my worries were baseless. The secondary sata drive was detected just fine later in the boot process. [18:21] ashe (~ashe@125.166.161.238) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:21] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:21] eviljames (~james@S0106001d7e684945.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:21] mancha: again - "what spec?" the spec would depend on which nvram the mfgr decided to use [18:21] by the way, since you guys are talking about cmos batteries, mine lasted about 8 years. [18:21] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) joined ##slackware. [18:21] and which cmos battery they decided to socket for [18:21] mkv96 (~makaveli@S010600a2bc4a5271.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:21] then after I installed a new one, fsck said disk has not been checked in 110 years. [18:21] i was after an average. "on average, what is the spec for a cmos battery" [18:22] cryptic0: that must be in dog years or something [18:22] :) [18:22] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [18:22] shonudo: lol, yeah. Or I have a prehistoric computer [18:22] eviljames (~james@S0106001d7e684945.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:22] are they manufactured to last 5 years? 10 years? etc. again, independent of usage pattern [18:22] mancha: again - "check with the mfgr" - I haven't seen a spec on nvram cmos battery backups yet [18:22] mancha: mine lasted 8 years [18:22] mkv96 (~makaveli@S010600a2bc4a5271.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:22] ashe (~ashe@125.166.161.238) joined ##slackware. [18:22] the batteries themselves are standard batteries with a shelf life similar to alkaline batteries [18:23] KTS brand Japan [18:23] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:23] <[hireme]rhisa> I couldn't find on google - what's the difference between ctrl+c and ctrl+d? [18:23] <[hireme]rhisa> I need a reminder. [18:23] Mowah (~Mowah@c-e580e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:23] ctrl d for bookmarks [18:23] <[hireme]rhisa> No. [18:23] [hireme]rhisa: what program? [18:23] <[hireme]rhisa> During command line. [18:23] j0z (~JESUS@187.59.33.248) joined ##slackware. [18:23] j0z (~JESUS@187.59.33.248) left irc: Changing host [18:23] j0z (~JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [18:23] ctrl d is used to quit python shell [18:24] I think ? [18:24] that's one use [18:24] <[hireme]rhisa> Hm, ctrl+d and c does the same thing for a perl script. [18:24] similar, but not the same [18:24] <[hireme]rhisa> How not so? [18:24] look at an ascii chart - it maps the characters as well as othe rmeanings [18:24] ^D means end of file, ^C means interrupt [18:24] <[hireme]rhisa> Perfect, thank you. [18:25] <[hireme]rhisa> mwalling - for you - http://www.rhisa.com/node/616 [18:25] <[hireme]rhisa> :] [18:25] cryptic0 thanks. i wonder what standard industry specs are for those. [18:25] but that at least gives me a ballpark figure [18:26] cryptic0: ^D tells python and bash that it has reached the end of the file. when you're running interactivly, it means "all done, good bye", etc [18:26] well, it tell everything, but python and bash have similar behavior [18:27] [hireme]rhisa: wait, so you took something i said verbatem and copyrighted it? [18:27] <[hireme]rhisa> mwalling yes. XD [18:27] Action: thrice` is scared [18:27] any hardware knowledgable folks know the lifetime specs on an avg 3v lithium battery? [18:28] <[hireme]rhisa> thrice`, http://www.rhisa.com/node/617 [18:28] <[hireme]rhisa> For you. [18:29] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:29] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@201.210.190.118) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:31] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [18:32] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.252.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:34] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:34] Azalyn (~junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:34] s4lv4d0r (~s4lv4d0r@201.210.190.118) joined ##slackware. [18:34] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.237.105) joined ##slackware. [18:34] clavius (~James@adsl-152-88-154.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:36] love letters? [18:36] Azalyn (~junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:37] I quite like them. [18:37] hahah [18:37] only if they're from pretty girls... [18:38] irc must be filled with those [18:38] you have no idea [18:38] they're all faking to be 40-year-old disgruntled men, though [18:39] that must be their anti-stalker measures [18:39] darn... [18:40] anti-stalker-detector-stalker-stalker-measures, yes [18:40] I'm bored. Someone stalk me. [18:40] frk (~jcn@189.58.222.26.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:40] Action: fire|bird stalks dive [18:41] oh nooes [18:41] hiya fire|bird [18:41] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:41] Reticenti (~josiah@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:41] erk (~MrEd@about/apple/iPod/BeZerk) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:41] heya dive :) [18:41] erk (~MrEd@about/apple/iPod/BeZerk) joined ##slackware. [18:42] Reticenti (~josiah@71-94-77-133.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:42] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [18:44] if fire|bird is stalking you, well... [18:44] you've hit rock bottom? [18:44] pretty much [18:44] At my age it's probably the best I can get. [18:44] haha [18:45] 40 years old and disgruntled? [18:45] faildive [18:45] mancha, close enough. [18:45] so youre really drop dead gorgeous, blonde young lady (if we're to believe anything adaptr says) [18:46] and me, in about 4 months [18:46] (which may give you a clue as to why I claimed it) [18:46] dive is using anti-stalker measures! [18:46] damn my secret identity has been revealed [18:47] <[hireme]rhisa> What/ [18:47] <[hireme]rhisa> WHAT? [18:48] sheesh, how many identities do you need, rhisa [18:48] it speaks to a troubled self-image [18:48] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.72.245) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:50] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.152.99) joined ##slackware. [18:56] test34 (~test34@c-69-244-243-126.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:56] test34 (~test34@c-69-244-243-126.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [18:56] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [18:57] wyggler2 (mvlewis@pilot.trilug.org) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:58] <[hireme]rhisa> adaptr, I only have.. one identity. [18:58] <[hireme]rhisa> Which is Rhisa. [18:58] <[hireme]rhisa> I might have a lot of names on IRC though but they're all linked to one account. [18:59] <[hireme]rhisa> And I doubt my identity is exactly a secret. :| [18:59] I done found you out, again! [19:00] <[hireme]rhisa> Then who be I? [19:00] ZerTux (~ZerTux@li126-61.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [19:00] you're unaffiliated! [19:00] <[hireme]rhisa> :'( [19:00] <[hireme]rhisa> But - sheesh, how many identities do you need, rhisa [19:00] <[hireme]rhisa> Why did you say that? It's confusing me. [19:01] I say that because you have a different nick almost every day [19:01] <[hireme]rhisa> Well..... [19:01] [hireme]rhisa: you change your nick a lot, you have some situation there... [19:01] <[hireme]rhisa> lol [19:01] <[hireme]rhisa> But they're all the same @unaffiliated/Rhisa. [19:01] <[hireme]rhisa> I thought people looked at that instead. [19:01] a client doesn't show that [19:01] <[hireme]rhisa> Hm xchat does. [19:01] it shows a nick [19:01] <[hireme]rhisa> When someone joins I see that. [19:02] and you stare at the screen non-stop, and remember every single one, yes ? [19:02] let's assume you're alone in that [19:02] so [hireme]rhisa, choose one nick, or solve your identity crisis [19:02] <[hireme]rhisa> Welllll I'll stick to Rhisa then. :p [19:02] good call [19:04] does that even really matter? [19:04] not to me, I merely made an observation [19:05] Action: [hireme]rhisa watches adaptr adjust position outside of my house. [19:05] <[hireme]rhisa> THat kind of observation huh... :] [19:05] hey, my buttcheeks were getting sore [19:05] <[hireme]rhisa> adaptr, what!? [19:05] Action: [hireme]rhisa looks harder to see who is with adaptr... [19:05] <[hireme]rhisa> pupit? Is that you? [19:06] I asked him to bring the HD cam [19:06] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:07] <[hireme]rhisa> Oh. [19:07] Action: pupit is not here, please call later [19:07] Action: fire|bird kicks pupit [19:08] Action: pupit sits on fire|bird. Count to 10 wuss! [19:09] Action: pupit 1. rule of fire|bird, do not talk about fire|bird. [19:09] :P [19:09] <[hireme]rhisa> IT sucks that I have no privacy or confidentiality. [19:09] <[hireme]rhisa> My darkest secrets are on the internet. [19:10] <[hireme]rhisa> I AM part of the internet and that's the saddest part. [19:10] deny everything, rhisa [19:10] <[hireme]rhisa> No. [19:10] <[hireme]rhisa> I won't. [19:10] <[hireme]rhisa> Because I don't mind. [19:10] <[hireme]rhisa> Truth is, after about 1-2 year after our death, we'll all be forgotten. [19:10] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:10] <[hireme]rhisa> My friend died when he was 16. [19:10] <[hireme]rhisa> Nobody ever mention him now. [19:10] [hireme]rhisa: you should write a book: "life of a living bot" :) [19:10] <[hireme]rhisa> HAHAH. [19:10] <[hireme]rhisa> xD [19:11] <[hireme]rhisa> That goes back to me being a bawt. and I am not a bawt. [19:11] <[hireme]rhisa> http://www.rhisa.com/node/411 [19:12] <[hireme]rhisa> I actually had a poll. [19:12] <[hireme]rhisa> lol [19:12] <[hireme]rhisa> about 77% voted YES to me being a bawt. [19:12] ruben23 (ITadmin@125.212.40.2) left ##slackware. [19:13] they voted for youto become one, or they suspected you are one ? [19:14] <[hireme]rhisa> Suspected I am one. [19:14] [hireme]rhisa: pull yourself together and go live. typing, and putting your life on internet wont solve a thing. and read some Tolstoy. [19:14] well the dead don't do alot, so who wants to get sad all the time remembering the old stuff [19:15] <[hireme]rhisa> I read Tolstoy when I was in high school. [19:15] <[hireme]rhisa> Or I believe I have. [19:15] <[hireme]rhisa> pupit, and I am pulled together. I love being me. :D [19:15] ahahha [19:15] <[hireme]rhisa> Seriously. [19:15] <[hireme]rhisa> I'm happpy being me. [19:15] well do you enjoy now? [19:15] <[hireme]rhisa> Of course. [19:15] <[hireme]rhisa> I sometimes think life is too short. [19:16] so you type faster.. :D [19:16] ROFL [19:16] <[hireme]rhisa> I don't have any problems atm, not real problems. Just trying to figure out how I am going to marry, how I am going to enter Columbia, etc. [19:16] <[hireme]rhisa> What? [19:16] <[hireme]rhisa> I type slowwww. [19:16] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@bl14-215-31.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:16] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@bl14-215-31.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Changing host [19:16] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [19:16] random mindjoke popup [19:17] <[hireme]rhisa> To be honest, just sitting here waiting for my teacher to grade my work then I can move on with my life. [19:17] <[hireme]rhisa> I just wish we all lasted longer. [19:17] <[hireme]rhisa> 90 something years is too short. [19:17] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-178-216.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:18] i'm not sure living long is all that great, i'd like to have a high quality life [19:18] <[hireme]rhisa> Hm I think my life is the best it can get. [19:18] but being sick in bed for a decade doesn't seem like fun to me [19:18] <[hireme]rhisa> True. [19:18] <[hireme]rhisa> I want to live healthy too. [19:18] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:19] <[hireme]rhisa> I'm just depressed that all the people I know and care for will be gone. [19:19] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [19:19] <[hireme]rhisa> I got my artist to draw for a friend who passed away - http://www.rhisa.com/sites/default/files/panzer.png [19:19] <[hireme]rhisa> I'm sure some of you knew him. [19:19] yeah, thats a very sad part of life [19:20] <[hireme]rhisa> Btw yes art is based on actual facial feature. So cmi-dos does look like a kid, etc. [19:20] <[hireme]rhisa> :( I'll miss you all. [19:21] [hireme]rhisa: there was a man who was coming back from church and on the pavement were two old nagging grannies. so he finally gets around them and tells them: i had an old lady just like you in my house. one of the grannies: what happened to her? man: thank God, she died. [19:21] <[hireme]rhisa> pupit, LOL! ;-; [19:21] [hireme]rhisa: and you really do have a cyber outfit with Angelina Jolie mammaries ? did you go to Thailand or something ? [19:22] <[hireme]rhisa> adaptr, AAAHAHAH! [19:22] |Slacker| (1000@189.65.209.165) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:22] <[hireme]rhisa> NO. I wish. [19:22] kakaka [19:22] <[hireme]rhisa> That mask I filed patent for. [19:22] <[hireme]rhisa> I actually tried. [19:22] spidertux (~spidertux@host109-104-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:22] <[hireme]rhisa> Talked to lawyers and all. But. Turns out to be more difficult than I thought. [19:22] <[hireme]rhisa> The cyber outfit comes from ME, and the military theme was from panzer being panzer. [19:23] <[hireme]rhisa> Have you noticed their names on top of them? Tribute to multiplayer games like BFBC. [19:23] how could I not notice it [19:23] <[hireme]rhisa> I took the role of a special force. Rworkman is squad leader. Panzer is armored. Cmi is tech. Freejack is shotgunner. Brianw is demoltion. [19:23] <[hireme]rhisa> xD [19:23] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [19:24] <[hireme]rhisa> The thing is, I wanted more people to send me their photos but nooooooo. People were like "wut, so you can stalk me and ..." [19:25] <[hireme]rhisa> Okay okay I noticed I talk too much. I'll go away. Bbl. [19:25] veritos (veritos@207.155.204.151.ptr.us.xo.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:25] i would be too harsh to expect the moral of the story.. [19:26] <[hireme]rhisa> ;-; Don't be mean to me. [19:26] What is the hotkey to disable kwin compositing? [19:26] [hireme]rhisa: im not, keep it cool [19:26] <[hireme]rhisa> ctrl+f2 or f11 [19:27] <[hireme]rhisa> Lemme look holdo n. [19:27] ctrl-shift-F12 I thikn [19:27] think [19:27] <[hireme]rhisa> Yes that's it! [19:27] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A562.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:28] kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key Enabled false && kwin --replace ;) [19:29] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [19:30] jemark (~mark@86-44-32-251-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:30] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A562.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [19:30] <[hireme]rhisa> That turns it on thrice`, no? [19:30] no, off - as he requested [19:31] <[hireme]rhisa> Oh enabled false. [19:31] <[hireme]rhisa> Okay. [19:32] groundnuty (~orzech@elj74.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:32] Thanks [19:32] And thanks thrice` for kwin --replace. X freaked out after I quit the game [19:32] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [19:33] fun :> [19:33] Yep :D [19:33] john_dee: what game? Urt? [19:33] <[hireme]rhisa> john_dee, what game? [19:33] Demo of Amnesia [19:33] lol [19:33] never heard [19:34] kwabbles (~kwabbles@h-66-166-245-3.lsanca54.static.covad.net) joined ##slackware. [19:34] <[hireme]rhisa> http://www.gamespot.com/pc/adventure/amnesiathedarkdescent/index.html [19:34] That's from the folks who made Penumbra [19:38] kwabbles (~kwabbles@h-66-166-245-3.lsanca54.static.covad.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:38] shonudo (user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [19:41] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-176-73.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [19:43] kwabbles (~kwabbles@h-66-166-245-3.lsanca54.static.covad.net) joined ##slackware. [19:46] pete` (~user@023.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:51] MTecknology (~MTeck@kalliki/admin/ubuntu.member.mtecknology) joined ##slackware. [19:51] Btw, is there any way to prevent layout switching hotkey (set in hal's policy file) from stopping other hotkeys to work? It's ctrl+shift and it stops all other hotkeys involving this two to be ignored? [19:56] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.29.148) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:58] does it allow you to activate the switch on press, release, or doesn't it distinguish between them [19:58] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.30.60) joined ##slackware. [19:58] because that's what's eating the other functions [19:59] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [20:00] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [20:01] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-176-73.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:01] It does switch on press of the second button [20:01] Jeddeb (~Jeddeb@modemcable109.239-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[21:29] oh, just found an evil little feature of tmux, possibly with screen too [21:29] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:30] Urugami_AFK (~AndChat@0.sub-97-198-172.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 241 seconds [21:31] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:34] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [21:34] nyRednek, ? [21:35] you type on one attached screen, it shows on another [21:36] never noticed that with screen [21:36] must be a tmux thing [21:38] telperion (~Adium@proxy2.unal.edu.co) joined ##slackware. [21:38] dTd (~dTd@d-206-53-68-12.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:39] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [21:40] how come there aren't slackbuilds for the xf86-video-* packages? [21:40] xorg is made in one big machine [21:40] what? 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[22:27] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:31] yht (~yht@180.214.233.19) joined ##slackware. [22:31] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] asarch (~asarch@189.188.159.181) joined ##slackware. [22:33] darkrho (~darkrho@84.39.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [22:36] <[hireme]rhisa> rob0, that's the point. :| [22:38] "bot" or "BOT" also has specific connotations in today's society [22:38] same thing that "tool" used to mean [22:38] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:41] <[hireme]rhisa> ;-; [22:42] mkv96 (~makaveli@S010600a2bc4a5271.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:46] mishehu (~mishehu@2001:470:1f0f:331:21a:92ff:fe98:27d0) left irc: Quit: brb [22:48] Rebecaa19f (wonderwall@41.236.13.139) joined ##slackware. [22:50] mishehu (~mishehu@rakdanit.shavedgoats.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:23] don't get paranoid [23:25] Action: [hireme]rhisa looks around paranoid. "Who's there?!" [23:26] diebeauty (~rafenator@cpe-66-91-215-222.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:28] diebeauty (~rafenator@cpe-66-91-215-222.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:28] <[hireme]rhisa> I'm gonna dance in front of the webcam for my SO. [23:28] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [23:28] tmi [23:28] <[hireme]rhisa> xD Been picking a bunch of wild dance like the Napolean Dance. [23:29] <[hireme]rhisa> \o/ [23:29] really ... we don't care. [23:29] bennymack (~ben@cpe-72-231-198-162.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:29] shonudo_ (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:29] ^kleanchap^ (~kleanchap@p5B11A669.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [23:29] <[hireme]rhisa> Okay okay. [23:29] <[hireme]rhisa> Bbl. [23:29] Jedman (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/jedman) joined ##slackware. [23:29] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Disconnected by services [23:29] xchg_ (~xchg@94.229.33.133) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:29] Nick change: shonudo_ -> shonudo [23:30] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [23:30] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [23:30] xchg (~xchg@94.229.33.133) joined ##slackware. [23:30] bennymac1 (~ben@cpe-72-231-198-162.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:30] ^kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A669.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:34] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-157.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:35] woh3 (~will@nv-71-2-72-53.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [23:35] woh3 (will@nv-71-2-72-53.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [23:38] <[hireme]rhisa> This is actually not bad (listen to it, ignore the vid). [23:38] <[hireme]rhisa> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxa9JROCjxQ [23:39] hba (~hba@189.130.161.141) joined ##slackware. [23:40] <[hireme]rhisa> Was trying to find one under - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH4-tOqLH94 but that's a good one too. [23:41] [hireme]rhisa: quit trolling and take your BS elsewhere. This is ##slackware. [23:41] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:42] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:43] mshade (~mshade@pool-70-110-27-248.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:48] ^kleanchap^ (~kleanchap@p5B11A669.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:51] Any GSB users here? Is it still necessary to do this (slapt-get --install glib2 gtk+2) as it is written on the site or I can just slapt-get --install gsb-desktop like INSTALL.TXT says? [23:52] Leo1111 (~matrix@static-200-105-166-132.acelerate.net) joined ##slackware. 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