[00:03] homecable (joey@unaffiliated/homecable) joined ##slackware. [00:03] i just setup my 100mbit line need to test my inet line i need alot of people to wget http://evilbox.ath.cx/pub/iso/systemrescuecd-x86-1.5.8.iso [00:03] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.97.140) joined ##slackware. [00:05] homecable, better luck pasting that in a busy channel [00:05] ##linux or ##ubuntu or something [00:06] alright :P [00:06] i have a web server with some pretty fat pipes... let's see what we get [00:07] sliding between 700 and 1200 K/s [00:07] http://evilbox.ath.cx/pub/phpsysinfo/ [00:08] KB/s in KB/s out [00:08] ifstat: warning: rollover for interface re0, reinitialising. [00:08] 0.00 0.00 [00:08] Channel flood from homecable -- kicking [00:08] 101.04 4654.94 [00:08] homecable kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [00:08] homecable (joey@unaffiliated/homecable) joined ##slackware. [00:08] rawr [00:10] how big of a pipe [00:11] well i can't say for sure what it's pulling because it's a shared server [00:11] what os [00:12] can i shut down akonadi completely? [00:12] homecable, to not get kicked again by the bot pastebin is your friend [00:12] homecable, debian, apparently [00:12] ah [00:12] vmwared ? [00:12] pupit: not if you want to use KDE PIM [00:13] gniks: no [00:13] then you should be able to turn it off :) [00:13] finger is showing some other users logged in, so i'd say no. [00:13] gniks: can i remove akonadi package and would KDE be stable? [00:13] i really dont need pim [00:14] if you turn off the PIM services, you shouldn't need the package but i can't say for sure [00:15] PIM is a completely separate entity from the core KDE components [00:16] hiptobecubic what kinda of hosting do u do [00:16] homecable, nothing important [00:16] it has been removed gniks [00:17] u pay anything for that box ? [00:18] cool pupit, let me know how it goes :p [00:19] if it not goes well, there's xfce :D [00:19] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.97.140) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:20] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-69.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] kickback (~kickback@122.173.242.92) joined ##slackware. [00:20] hehe [00:21] i tried out Haiku OS yesterday [00:21] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [00:22] turned to be way more awesome than expected [00:22] john_dee (~id@95-29-12-46.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:24] kickback: that's the one compatible(somewhat) to BeOS,right? [00:24] john_dee (~id@95-29-144-58.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:24] MLanden: yeah, haiku is to BeOS what GNU is to Unix [00:25] i'd say its great for those learning C++ [00:25] kickback: ok..thanks [00:34] tuvok302 (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-77.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:36] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-69.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:38] kickback: did you VM it or install it to hard drive? nice to hear that it's still active [00:39] MLanden: i made a live USB [00:39] and it only takes about 10 secs to boot ;) [00:39] cool [00:39] BTW, the live CD doesn't work with SATA disc drives, i dunno why [00:40] they got it to work on ACPI machines? [00:40] but USB does [00:40] last time i checked in on it you could only boot it natively on APM style machines [00:40] i dont know the difference between ACPI and APM [00:41] but it worked on my core 2 duo desktop and laptop, if thats what you mean [00:41] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.218.209) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:42] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.157.211) joined ##slackware. [00:42] its surprisingly stable for an alpha. the browser crashed on me a couple of times, but it was when i had like 30 tabs open [00:42] http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Battery-Powered/powermgm.html APM and ACPI descriptions :) [00:43] ceijfi (ad4d721e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.114.30) joined ##slackware. [00:43] tuvok302 (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-77.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby [00:43] k thx [00:44] kickback: that is an ACPI machine for sure [00:44] kickback: pentium and K6 machines were APM.. after that everything worth the mention was ACPI [00:44] ok [00:45] interesting, anyone know why slackwrae doesn't load acpid on boot? [00:45] it does on mine [00:45] chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.acpid ? [00:46] ah it did, i actually just missed it in hte process table :p [00:46] nvm [00:52] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Quit: ...And thanks for all the fish! 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[01:13] some people are gonna say chage to 13 but I want to know if I can get similar protection for under a buck [01:14] perhaps is not a wise decision but I want to know more precice xplanations [01:15] patero-ng: just because its not the latest doesn't mean its not secure [01:16] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:16] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [01:16] you can use good passwords on your accounts, use /bin/false for shells you don't want to be able to log in, disable ssh to root, install a brute force detection system, use good file system permissions, don't use FTP or SMTP/POP3/IMAP without TLS [01:16] and many more [01:17] patero-ng: also, follow the security advisories on the website http://slackware.com/security/ [01:18] in other words I need research pdf about shield linux [01:18] you will need to do that research no matter what version and/or distro you run [01:18] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-174.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Going! [01:18] my main aim of da question was if I can remain secure without changing the os [01:18] yes you can [01:18] so is ok then I can start shield my linux no need to change to get protection [01:19] correct [01:19] I have redhat cds from 2002 can I shield those 2 [01:19] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:19] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:19] in case i didn't need the newest programs let's say I had a system going de [01:19] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:19] if the OS is no longer maintained, then you begin to run risks, because the maintainers won't patch security bugs [01:19] but slackware 12 is still maintained [01:20] what do u mean maintained, are there like patches for it? that get donwloaded, since 2008 I haven't modify the system or kernel [01:21] patero-ng: i'd suggest you keep the patches updated [01:21] patero-ng: with slackware and many operating systems, you must install the latest patched software [01:21] patero-ng: but that's just one step [01:21] http://tldp.org/LDP/solrhe/Securing-Optimizing-Linux-The-Ultimate-Solution-v2.0.pdf this is a bit old, but its sound advice [01:22] guys, i'm going to bed [01:22] night nyRednek [01:22] gniks: night...it's been a rough week, and it isn't over yet [01:22] ick [01:23] patero-ng: a distribution version is maintained meaning that the person(s)/company that owns the distro writes security patches and upgrades older software for that version& if it is not being maintained, those things do not get done, leaving you at risk due to possible known security vulnerabilities that will not get patched [01:23] i get to see my kids again today(in about 14 hours) [01:23] thats a plus [01:24] that it is [01:25] DallaRosa (~dalla@y000211.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:25] homecable (joey@unaffiliated/homecable) left irc: [01:25] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-113-83.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:28] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:28] Action: kakoi voltou: [bt] duraçăo: 2hrs 3mins 58secs [01:29] kakoi (slackware@187.35.228.104) left irc: Quit: sleep [01:30] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [01:30] hba (~hba@189.130.49.85) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:31] ##slackware: mode change '+o rworkman' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [01:31] patero-ng: gtfo [01:31] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*no@*.slkc.qwest.net' by rworkman!~rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman [01:31] patero-ng kicked from ##slackware by rworkman: patero-ng [01:31] ##slackware: mode change '-o rworkman' by rworkman!~rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman [01:31] hmm rworkman is up late :p [01:31] Yes :/ [01:32] why so late? [01:32] Daughter #2 was hungry, it seemed [01:32] aww [01:32] patero-ng is not welcome i take it? [01:32] No, he's a long-time troll; don't waste your time with him [01:33] ill attempt to remember that :p [01:33] Like many trolls, he *can* appear reasonable when he wishes. It's an act :) [01:33] Action: rworkman is 0x21 today :) [01:33] that it is :p [01:33] and with that, I'm heading back to bed. 0530 comes early [01:34] night [01:35] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [01:35] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:35] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [01:35] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [01:37] that was one of the most friendly trolls ever [01:37] kldstat (~rajpano@bas1-calgaryqa-1242361447.region2.highspeedunplugged.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [01:38] nice but stupid [01:39] at least this time around :p [01:39] yeah, but i've seen lots of non-trolls that were stupider :D [01:39] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@253-135.thezone.bg) joined ##slackware. [01:39] they at least catch on :p [01:39] he wasn't catching on [01:39] yeah [01:40] Nick change: WireWulf -> Wulf-is-not-here [01:40] there was also KaMii, who was a pretty funny troll [01:41] she's still online :) [01:41] hehe, well& she learns too [01:41] she just runs outdated hardware that limits her :p [01:41] i have a overwhelming respect for this distribution [01:41] nah, she's just 15, thats not outdated [01:42] haha she isn't, her hardware is :p [01:42] hows it run natively on a mactel? [01:42] saywhat? [01:42] slack on a mac [01:43] it should run fine [01:43] as long as you can find drivers for all the hardware [01:43] cool cuz i want a triple boot 27" imac [01:43] good luck with that [01:43] im looking to work as a janitor at the nearest mall [01:43] but she's still too old for my taste; i like my women how i like my whiskey - 10 years old and mixed up with coke :P [01:44] i already have paypal when the dough starts coming [01:44] good for you kldstat [01:44] kickback: lulz and wow [01:44] hunterm (~hunterm@cpe-098-024-132-073.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:45] [01:45] good good :) [01:46] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:47] emuroot (~bgates@adsl-69-234-109-68.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: [01:50] jhell_ (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. 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[02:08] you may have to build it on your own [02:08] hunterm: nux/comments/d23qs/why_should_i_be_using_an_editor_like_vi_vim_or/ [02:08] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-42-82.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:08] hunterm: grrr sorry wrong link [02:08] lol [02:08] hunterm: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/dropbox-client/ [02:08] :D [02:09] thanks! [02:09] np ! :) [02:09] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [02:14] jhw (~jhw@p548D6F68.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [02:15] zux1wrk (~zux@87.110.231.145) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:15] any reasone why a usb dongle dial-up modem would connect with wvdial and be able to ping websites, though not be able to browse to them in a web-browser? [02:16] would that be a route issue? [02:17] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [02:21] edthix (~ed@175.137.191.49) joined ##slackware. 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[04:17] hells yeah 8D [04:17] the sun is shining here, perfect driving weather =) [04:18] Any weather will do :) [04:18] good game =) [04:18] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [04:20] its not as good as trackballs with real trackballs [04:20] i bought a trackball recently, didnt like [04:20] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:20] could not get used to it.. and my thumb hurt [04:21] phrag: I play the open source version [04:21] ? [04:21] and have a trackball [04:21] Action: phrag is confused [04:21] and a leather glove that you don't know what does [04:21] you're not the alone [04:23] why am I not playing now? because I sold the damn mac with ubuntu on it [04:24] if you know me, I never get into video games, but trackballs takes a importance [04:26] grazymax (~grazymax@host147-22-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:32] wtf trackballs o.0 [04:36] ah, marbles =P [04:38] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@h4x0r.gentoo.ltd.pl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:40] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@h4x0r.gentoo.ltd.pl) joined ##slackware. [04:40] hi ROKO__ [04:42] hello [04:43] grazymax (~grazymax@host147-22-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:43] I'm trying to be as mean as possible to my brother [04:43] in text [04:43] my mom told me and gave me money to do it [04:44] actually irc is kinda easy [04:45] I was stabbing at him early to get him to mess up and text back [04:45] asdfjkl (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [04:45] but mostly that comes from being mean and not thinking that up at all [04:45] about anybody [04:46] your mother paid you to harrass your brother!? [04:46] phrag: I should ask for hunderends [04:46] I already know him, [04:46] and I know my mom too [04:47] my mom can seem to try to be controlling [04:47] but shes not at all [04:47] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-11-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [04:47] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:48] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:48] "controlling" means starting with something like ''I need...'' [04:48] whatever that is [04:51] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) joined ##slackware. [04:51] rabbitear: Are you on crack? [04:51] no just pot [04:51] jaminja (~jaminja@74.81.170.4) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:52] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:52] Zordrak: why? [04:52] Zordrak: I never am into drugs at all for like billions of years [04:52] ^^ O_o ^^ [04:53] lol [04:53] Zordrak: it doens't matter [04:53] hi surrounder [04:53] heya rabbitear, still making no sense I see? :) [04:53] surrounder: last time [04:53] surrounder: I saw you [04:54] surrounder: was in fvwm [04:54] jaminja (~jaminja@74.81.170.4) joined ##slackware. [04:54] no, it was here [04:54] surrounder: and that was atleast 4 years! [04:54] oh [04:54] my bad [04:54] I must be high [04:54] yyyeah [04:54] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:56] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:56] grazymax (~grazymax@host142-157-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:57] hi my name is rabbitear [04:58] maco (~maco@mackenzie.morgan.name) joined ##slackware. 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[05:22] eating [05:23] Nick change: Linus -> SlackLnx [05:25] rabbitear: stop talking crap and trolling the channel please or you will be removed [05:26] I'm eating [05:26] phrag: do think that is trolling? [05:26] this is a channel for Slackware related discussion. not rabbitear [05:26] yeh, your spouting incoherant crap into the channel that has nothing to do with Slackware [05:27] if you want to talk about yourself try #rabbitear [05:30] so you know what to talk about in this room ? [05:30] obviously its your opinions [05:30] and have no problems [05:30] good bye [05:31] if your going to say good bye at least leave the channel [05:32] I got problems [05:33] ##slackware: mode change '+o phrag' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [05:33] you think [05:33] ##slackware: mode change '+q rabbitear!*@*' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [05:33] Lol [05:34] :) [05:34] thats worse than +m! [05:34] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@209-112-209-132-rb1.nwc.dsl.dynamic.acsalaska.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [05:34] rabbitear kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: trolling [05:34] go phrag \o/ [05:35] ##slackware: mode change '-q rabbitear!*@*' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [05:35] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [05:35] i got a question do i have to modify a rc file to remove that GTK thing at boot if I dont install a desktop enviroment? [05:35] which gtk thing? [05:36] im not here right nom but i remember a GTK thing at boot [05:36] tripFantastic (1000@c-68-56-204-104.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:36] morning, anyone awake? [05:36] always [05:36] kldstat: its for gtk, installing a desktop environment or not is irrelevant [05:36] deep-guru question: [05:38] Ongacska (d5dea7f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.222.167.249) joined ##slackware. [05:38] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.222.167.249' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [05:38] Ongacska kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: trolling [05:38] heh, who's betting that's the same guy =P [05:39] na phrag diff country for the ip [05:39] ah, good spot =) [05:39] tripFantastic (1000@c-68-56-204-104.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [05:41] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:42] kldstat: no, no need to change anything: it first checks the file is there before trying to run it [05:42] (there and executable) [05:42] if i dont install x libs it kinda mucks up [05:43] whatever not important, just wondering why gtk would need something at startup [05:44] it doesn't matter at all [05:44] if you don't install gtk, slackware won't even try to run this [05:44] rc.M calls /usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache [05:44] /usr/bin/update-gtk-immodules [05:45] you could comment these out in /etc/rc.d/rc.M [05:45] i wish slackintosh was up to date [05:45] but surrounded with an 'if [ -x ... ]', no? [05:45] so i could install it and modify rc.M [05:46] i think im putting the cart before the horse... 2 pots of coffee and 5 hours to go [05:46] if find /usr/share/icons [05:47] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [05:47] if [ -x /usr/bin/update-mime-database [05:47] so you could chmod -x /usr/bin/update-mime-database and uncomment the if find /usr/share/icons stansa [05:47] ill remember that for when i do a install on the toshiba [05:48] =) [05:54] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:55] linXea (~Slackytux@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:57] linXea (~Slackytux@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Changing host [05:57] linXea (~Slackytux@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [05:57] Elfo (~no_w@83.240.167.193) joined ##slackware. [05:58] anyone know how to clear nagios's status cache? [05:59] not offhand no, sorry [05:59] i barely touch it, it just keeps on doing its thing [06:01] just brought up a datacenter... 234 criticals =P [06:01] wanted to force check everything, and clear it's last status [06:04] got it [06:04] rm /usr/local/nagios/var/retention.dat [06:04] =) [06:04] or retain_state_information=0 [06:04] chb (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [06:07] arch_enthusiast (~arch_enth@dynamic-213-198-231-127.adsl.eunet.rs) joined ##slackware. [06:07] arch_enthusiast (~arch_enth@dynamic-213-198-231-127.adsl.eunet.rs) left irc: Changing host [06:07] arch_enthusiast (~arch_enth@unaffiliated/arch-enthusiast/x-8276453) joined ##slackware. [06:10] Need an expert on slackware's init scripts [06:10] s_eraph (1000@141.30.28.157) joined ##slackware. [06:10] libvirt is still troubling me :( [06:10] s_eraph (1000@141.30.28.157) left ##slackware. [06:11] it refuses to run properly in runlevels 6 and 0 [06:15] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:20] arch_enthusiast (~arch_enth@unaffiliated/arch-enthusiast/x-8276453) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:21] kickback (~kickback@122.173.242.92) joined ##slackware. [06:26] Action: phrag loves sed [06:27] I don't. [06:27] Action: sahko loves katerina [06:28] I heard how hard it is to use sed and awk. [06:28] katerina is more difficult to handle, i assure you :p [06:32] but it is the awesome when you do [06:33] grazymax (~grazymax@host142-157-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [06:34] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:35] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [06:43] Why does KDE freeze so much for a short period of time when I cut and paste stuff? [06:44] miss_riss, large files ? [06:45] nobody here uses kvm + libvirt? [06:46] Very small files. [06:47] I have a theory it has to do with the fact I turned off swap. [06:47] :| [06:47] jmad980 (~hammer@unaffiliated/jmad980) joined ##slackware. [06:47] running out of mem can cause freezes like that, yes [06:47] Hush! [06:47] Action: miss_riss puts a tape on EthanG's mouth. [06:47] sorry ^^; [06:47] I don't want to hear my computer has no mem. [06:47] mmp? [06:47] *blinku* [06:49] >:( [06:49] So on a 64 bit you never need ram? [06:49] I mean, you never need swap? [06:49] jrodger (~jrodger@27.32.19.10) joined ##slackware. [06:50] with 4GB ram I used to need swap occasionally in OS X. very rarely under Linux, but I wasn't running any desktop [06:50] i run 6GB DDR3, 64bit.. never use swap.. ever [06:51] it's there just in case [06:51] I imagine you'll need swap if you're running Chrome with lots of tabs, though. anything webkit-based too, perhaps, although it uses half what chrome does [06:51] it's good to have it just in case, it's much quicker for the kernel to swap than to try other things [06:52] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:53] swap is there to stop thde system dying when something runs away with all your RAM (*when it probably wasnt supposed to) :) [06:53] the whole, should be twice the size of your ram is to allow a full kernel dump if it folds [06:53] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:54] s_eraph (1000@141.30.28.157) joined ##slackware. [06:54] erm [06:55] Zordrak: I've watched my PDA in particular find more ram seemingly from nowhere when there's no swap. I think it pages out shared libs. it is a very slow process [06:56] well yeah.. some can be reclaimed.. in fact it does that all the time since ram can be cached and buffered... but its no cure [06:56] phrag: how's it help for it to be twice the size, and can you recover from such a dump? [06:56] Zordrak: aye.. [06:56] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [06:56] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [06:58] EthanG: it's more for kernel debugging [06:58] ah 'k [06:59] *chuckles* anyone else remember when there were dire warnings to never making your swap more than twice the size of your ram? [07:00] I came in on the tail end of that and found I could safely ignore the warnings. I needed to, too, on a 4MB 486 ^^; [07:00] I had oeld hardware then [07:00] Why did they have such a warning? [07:01] I don't remember. I think the VM system could get in a twist and corrupt your data or something. [07:04] jrodger (~jrodger@27.32.19.10) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:05] cesconix (~cesconix@93-46-44-67.ip106.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:06] kldstat (~rajpano@bas1-calgaryqa-1242361447.region2.highspeedunplugged.bell.ca) left irc: Quit: Quit [07:08] hi. i have a problem with my amarok player. for some reason it won't play any mp3 files, although xin backend is installed and working. [07:08] *xine [07:10] slackmagic (1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:11] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [07:12] s_eraph: got any flash open? [07:12] Nick change: jmad980 -> _||-\ [07:13] no [07:13] Nick change: _||-\ -> jmad980 [07:14] as far as i know i have no flash running [07:14] meh [07:15] when i start amarok out of console, every time i attempt to play a mpr-file it says "xine is asking to seek behind the end of the data stream" [07:16] s_eraph: do you have a full Slackware installation? and which version? [07:17] full installation. 13.0 [07:17] it never worked? [07:17] jmad980 (hammer@unaffiliated/jmad980) left ##slackware ("GET TO TEH CHAPPPA"). [07:18] no [07:19] it plays .wav files, but never did mp3. [07:19] did you search the internet for the xine message? [07:21] the internet is a lie [07:21] yes, but the solutions said, i should install packages, which were already installed [07:22] v4nelle (~van@78-185-25.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:23] or that amarok doesn't play anything [07:23] but it plays wav-files flawlessly [07:25] are you using the 2.x.y amarok that comes with Slackware? [07:25] it's 2.1.1 [07:26] so basically, yes [07:35] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@209-112-209-132-rb1.nwc.dsl.dynamic.acsalaska.net expired. [07:35] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@209-112-209-132-rb1.nwc.dsl.dynamic.acsalaska.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:36] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [07:37] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:39] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.222.167.249 expired. [07:39] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.222.167.249' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:39] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [07:39] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [07:44] how do you remove a journal from an ext3 fs? is it `tune2fs -O '^has_journal'`? [07:45] revel0___ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [07:46] convert it to ext2 [07:46] yeeees [07:47] sahko: how do you do that? D: [07:47] chb (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Quit: inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris [07:48] mkfs.ext2? [07:48] If it's mounted as ext2, then the journal is not used. [07:49] foldy (~foldy@ip-85-160-111-123.eurotel.cz) left irc: Quit: Odcházím [07:50] so a kernel with only ext2 support compiled in (and ext3 as a module) should still be able to boot from an ext3 fs, right? [07:50] I'm dealing with an old PDA I can't change the kernel on [07:50] It should still work. [07:51] hmm, and yet it doesn't [07:51] alan` (alan@rrcs-67-52-47-64.west.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:51] alan` (alan@rrcs-67-52-47-64.west.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:52] I really have to change the kernel eventually I guess, but everything I build for it fails and I can't find the old config >_> [07:52] 64MB machine and they wanted to scrape a few bytes more by not having /proc/config.gz [07:52] ashtif (~ashtif@54009E15.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) joined ##slackware. [07:53] kickback (~kickback@122.173.242.92) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:53] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [07:55] ashtif (~ashtif@54009E15.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:58] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431683.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:59] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-436038.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:01] revel0___ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:02] sahko: is there still hope for me? i tried an audacious to play my mp3 files and it worked, so why does amrok not work? [08:03] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [08:03] no idea. i dont remember having such issues with 13.0 so its probably something you did [08:03] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:03] revel0___ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [08:04] if you have a desktop using 13.1 will be better, especially with kde [08:04] i use kde [08:04] sheller (~sheller@122.6.68.103) joined ##slackware. [08:06] anyone tried to build amarok-2.3.1? [08:06] mysql embedded is a required dep with 2.3.1 [08:12] vdv: it always was [08:12] theres a script to build it in the mysql source dir [08:13] sb script? [08:13] .build iirc [08:13] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-436038.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: I shouldn't really be here - dircproxy 1.2.0 [08:13] ah, script is in mysql src dir? [08:14] Just tried upgrading to kernel 2.6.35.2. Looks like I'm doomed to run 2.6.32.x forever.... [08:16] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [08:18] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.97.140) joined ##slackware. [08:19] revel0___ (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~ [08:19] pprkut: be happy [08:19] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:20] pprkut: 32 is good and long term support [08:20] screw 34+ [08:20] well, it has some bugs that I think could be solved in newer versions :/ [08:21] i thought that.. till i realised 34 introduced a ton of bugs and barely solved any [08:21] (overstatement i know) [08:21] sheller (~sheller@122.6.68.103) left irc: Quit: ‚» [08:21] Yep, that's what I just saw when booting up .35. I think the bootup took 10 minutes because of all the errors along the way... [08:22] how's the version go again? Even numbers stable? [08:22] (kernel) [08:22] i really w ish i knew what was going on in kernel devel atm [08:22] dive: only the second dot means that [08:22] right [08:22] dive: so 2.6=stable 2.7=unstable [08:22] the rest is just updates [08:22] yeah [08:22] new it was something like that [08:22] but the fourth dot is bugfix/security only, no features [08:23] I don't think that applies to 2.6 [08:23] in fact I'm almost sure there is no 2.7 [08:23] not public anyway [08:23] meh [08:23] don't be an idiot, dieter- [08:23] dunno it's a while since I looked [08:23] dive, sorry dieter- [08:24] EthanG, no need to apologise for calling me an idiot :P [08:24] ok XD [08:24] what I heard recently was different minor numbers are allocated to be stable; someone was ranting about how slackware 13.1 just missed a stable kernel version [08:24] that was me [08:24] um, not minor but the 3rd number [08:24] oh... [08:25] but its not about whats called stable [08:25] its about the length of support [08:25] ah I gotcha [08:25] 34 is stable.. but 32 is de-signated for long term support [08:25] s/-// [08:25] 35 is stable too ;) [08:25] "stable" : [08:25] ahh [08:25] :) [08:25] indeed :) [08:29] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.97.140) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:30] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [08:31] tiny (~ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:31] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:35] Delahunt (~robert@fd126-196.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [08:35] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:37] ok where is the command for getting the proper parameters to the mkinitrd ? [08:37] or the script ? [08:38] /usr/share/mkinitrd/mkinitrd_command_generator.sh [08:39] meatbun (~wafers4@cpe-98-155-139-88.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:39] i am root @ console. how to send user in X-desktop a message, who do not have a terminal opened? [08:40] I prefer make menuconfig ;) [08:40] meatbun: wall *should* do it [08:40] xmessage moo [08:40] i tried wall and write, let me look into xmessage [08:40] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:41] prob have to export DISPLAY=:0 or whatever first [08:41] s_eraph (1000@141.30.28.157) left ##slackware. [08:41] meatbun, which DE? [08:41] I know kde pops up a message with wall [08:41] dive, gnome [08:41] hmm dunno about that them [08:41] then [08:41] meatbun: ... if it's win ... echo "$MESSAGE" | /path/to/smbclient -M trout [08:42] phrag: TBF.. if youre gonna use the display: [08:42] # xauth merge ~username/.Xauthority [08:42] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@97-127-222-25.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:42] # export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 [08:42] # [08:42] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [08:43] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [08:43] hmm [08:43] DISPLAY=:0 ; xmessage moo [08:44] that works as root [08:44] i usually do merge Xauthority with my user though [08:44] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [08:45] phrag, that works. thx [08:45] i would guess thats due to haw xmessage is designed towork [08:45] you almost certainly need a merge for most usual apps [08:45] now i will try it with crontab -e [08:45] jg71, i have no idea what u are talking about. [08:46] foldy (~foldy@ip-85-160-111-123.eurotel.cz) joined ##slackware. [08:48] meatbun: i didnt read up, hence the IF. [08:48] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-436038.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:51] 47 2 * * * export DISPLAY=:0 [08:51] 47 2 * * * /usr/bin/xmessage moo [08:51] 47 2 * * * /sbin/shutdown -h now [08:52] that did not work under crontab -e [08:52] any ideas? [08:52] the shutdown line works [08:52] just that no warning message what so ever lol [08:53] meatbun, wtf? [08:53] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:53] make a small bash script and run that from one line [08:53] yeah.. seriously wthfy. [08:53] that's the configuration i have in 'crontab -e' [08:54] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [08:54] yeah we know that [08:54] i am trying to schedule shutdown time [08:54] DURgod (~DURgod@24-247-210-79.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:54] and why do you suppose that's going to work like that? [08:54] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [08:54] O. M. G. [08:54] with 3 different lines all at the same time [08:54] shutdown has its own scheduling feature (hence the now) AND it automagically messages all terminalsn to inform of the impending shutdown [08:55] yep [08:55] cant you call shutdown with a message that it will send to users? [08:55] exactly [08:55] yes [08:55] xmessage != wall [08:56] shutdown -h now I am shutting down! [08:56] i ve tried wall. it only works, if the user in gnome happens to have a terminal open [08:56] /sbin/shutdown [-t sec] [-arkhncfFHP] time [warning-message] [08:57] -k lets you test the warning with no actual shutdown [08:58] Zordrak since when has that worked for X users? :p [08:58] does in KDE4 certainly [08:58] guax (~guax@189.4.108.113) joined ##slackware. [08:58] guax (~guax@189.4.108.113) left irc: Changing host [08:58] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [08:58] it normally doesn't work for X terminals either, I guess gnome-terminal devs chose to enable it [08:58] since kde started monitoring root messages [08:58] well that's new [08:59] no idea what works in gnome, best to ask in #gnome [09:00] yeh, via dbus i think [09:00] although might be wrong [09:00] it worked in KDE3.5 too iirc [09:00] anyone know where my ftp DomU's Dom0 is ? =P [09:01] domfail? [09:01] s/?/!/ [09:01] may aswell be =P [09:01] :p [09:02] indubitableness (~indubitab@99.156.150.39) joined ##slackware. [09:02] meatbun, one way you could do is put those commands in a bash script and have cron execute that. [09:03] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [09:03] whoah I just had a runaway emacs processes that ate all my ram and half my sawp, and it was cycling the HDD [09:03] how can I debug it to see what was going on? [09:03] really? [09:04] gdb [09:04] KaMii, emacs wants your box. [09:04] ya, it was this emacs twitter program [09:04] use vim =) [09:04] hah [09:04] why does it not surprise me that something designed to interface with twitter screwed up that badly [09:04] KaMii: but you can use gdb (gnu debugger) [09:04] emacs twitter? Whatever next.. [09:04] lol [09:05] lol, well i found it and it was light, but it apparenly has a memory leak [09:05] a HUGE memory leak, 1 gig [09:05] nice [09:05] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-191.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:05] ya, i was impressed myself [09:05] and once it ate all my ram it started sawpping like a monkey on a trampoline [09:06] And we all know how much a monkey on a trampoline likes to swap [09:06] ... [09:06] rather a lot [09:06] hi [09:06] hey miss_riss [09:06] I've never run that gdb before [09:06] morning/afternoon miss_riss [09:06] do I do that inside of emacs? [09:07] KaMii, no [09:07] gdb emacs [09:07] run emacs [09:07] do I have to be logged into and X session? [09:07] 'run emacs' being the command in gdb that is [09:07] KaMii, no don't need X [09:07] How is everyone? What are you guys working on? [09:08] emerge world [09:08] :p [09:08] I'm working on my appetite [09:08] i am working on nagios [09:08] hah [09:08] and xen [09:08] coffeeł may be coming up [09:08] we don't take kindly ta 'mergin' stuff round these parts ya'hear [09:09] mergin'? that's fightin' words mister [09:09] what you eatin' dive? [09:09] lol [09:09] x0 [09:09] indubitableness, I'm thinking about making some spaghetti with extra spicey sauce [09:09] woh3 (~will@nv-71-2-72-53.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [09:09] if I can make the effort [09:09] ah gots me some tasty beef stew ah'll tell ya what boy howdy [09:09] mmmm [09:09] dive, thx, that worked [09:09] right [09:10] work up the motivation [09:10] sometimes I just say "I'm not THAT hungry" [09:10] and go to bed [09:10] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) joined ##slackware. [09:10] meatbun, but realistically you may want to consider giving them some warning instead of 'now' ;) [09:11] dive, yeah. i change the warning message 10 minutes earlier [09:11] if I was on a system and got that message someone would be getting a punch in the nose [09:12] ten minutes to save work is more helpful [09:13] :D [09:14] slick55 (~slick@cpe-075-176-171-074.sc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:14] dive, i just set cron warning to be 10 min earlier. and i still issue 'shutdown now -h' [09:14] plus extra wall message for terminal users [09:16] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:16] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [09:19] meatbun (~wafers4@cpe-98-155-139-88.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:20] its not showing anything yet, maybe it will take a few days before it starts to eat up my RAM again [09:21] KaMii, it may be that you need to do a certain action [09:22] well I just posted a tweet, and i had it grab and follow all the latest tweets as usual [09:22] from the forum on the site where I got the program it looks like this bug was already found by someone [09:23] its a slow memory leak that takes a few days to consume all your ram [09:23] woh3 (will@nv-71-2-72-53.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [09:23] Nick change: maco2 -> maco [09:24] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) joined ##slackware. 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[09:33] Nick change: shyko_ -> shyko [09:33] slick55 (~slick@cpe-075-176-171-074.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:33] shyko (~shyko@187.39.211.48) left irc: Changing host [09:33] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [09:34] You can remove the journaling if it causes problems [09:34] it shouldn't though [09:34] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:34] those errors makes me uncertain [09:34] What errors have you seen? [09:35] Action: jg71 's error make me integer [09:35] errors=continue) [09:35] That just looks like an fstab option [09:35] looks like [09:35] if errors occur [09:35] aha ok [09:35] force a continue [09:35] and ignore them [09:36] You could remove it so that if you do see errors it'll do whatever it normally does [09:37] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:37] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. 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[09:49] ceijfi (ad4d721e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.114.30) left irc: Quit: Page closed [09:50] Happy birthday rworkman. [09:50] anyoneofus|xchat (~anyoneofu@58.187.3.62) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:50] josemanuel (~josemanue@80.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [09:51] happy bday rworkman ... happens only to the best of us ;) [09:52] yozzerr (bgeddy@devio.us) joined ##slackware. [09:54] ##slackware: mode change '+o phrag' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [09:54] Topic changed on ##slackware by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag: Channel Guidelines: http://is.gd/bYfOG | Logs: http://is.gd/bYfRK | Stats: http://phra.gs:8000/ || http://slackbook.org | http://slackwiki.org | http://slackbuilds.org | http://gallery.slackadelic.com | http://slackware.com/getslack | Torrent: http://is.gd/bYfM0 | Slackware 13.1 Released | Security: mozilla-firefox, mozilla-thunderbird, seamonkey. | Happy Birthday rworkman =) [09:54] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [09:54] rworkman: congrats! [09:55] rworkman, many happy returns :) [09:55] the rocky song is not the same as the a-team song! [09:56] Action: nachox frowns [09:56] Raggs-DH (~x@99-29-0-126.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [09:57] i just had an argument in the office abouti that [09:58] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:59] phrag: what kind of idiots do you work with [09:59] Uh, happy birthday, uh uh, happy birthday birthday [10:00] my boss said it was [10:00] phrag: oy [10:00] as i started humming the rocky tune randomly... he's trying to tell me it's the A-Team song! [10:00] eze phrag :) hitting up the UK in 2-3 weeks. [10:00] pfft [10:01] phrag: prove him wrong, nicely, then ask for a raise [10:01] acidchild: ooh! you anywhere near newcastle? [10:01] Yep [10:01] nyRednek: i did.. prob cut my pay =P [10:01] gotta see the boys in newcastle :) there is rather a few. [10:01] acidchild: oh dude, you have to hit me up when your in town [10:01] i live in centre now, nice and local =) [10:03] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:03] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. 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[10:08] http://americanwhale.com/2010/08/17/what-are-you-america/ [10:08] oops [10:08] wrong window [10:10] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:12] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-11-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:13] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:14] slick55 (~slick@cpe-075-176-171-074.sc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:15] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7ACA7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:15] shyko_ (~shyko@187.39.211.48) joined ##slackware. [10:15] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:17] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:17] Federal [10:17] Reserve Chairman [10:17] chairman said we need to update our kernels ... [10:18] cos of this https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=CVE-2010-2240 [10:19] Roin (~florian@p5B2BFF11.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:06] jg71: but that failure depends on getting local access to the machine [11:07] yozzerr (bgeddy@devio.us) left irc: Quit: BitchX: its magically delicious! [11:07] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [11:10] m3tti: so? thats mentioned in the CVE. why do you bring it up? [11:13] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) joined ##slackware. [11:13] securekey (~securekey@blk-222-34-186.eastlink.ca) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:14] hm just wanted to tell :-) [11:17] kickback (~kick@122.176.240.192) joined ##slackware. [11:17] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.118.30) joined ##slackware. [11:19] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-171.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [11:20] ashe (~ashe@125.163.39.170) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:22] Elfo (no_w@83.240.167.193) left ##slackware. [11:22] ashe (~ashe@118.96.239.188) joined ##slackware. [11:22] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:23] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.4) joined ##slackware. [11:31] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:32] waitin' on a sixteen hundred dollar check from the gummint [11:32] fuzzix_ (~fuzzix@109.76.157.211) joined ##slackware. [11:32] so's I can buy me up some learnin' books for schoolification [11:32] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.157.211) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:32] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [11:33] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:35] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [11:37] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:38] fuzzix_ (~fuzzix@109.76.157.211) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:38] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [11:38] Howdy [11:38] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [11:39] sup maing [11:39] I don't know if that came across with the right accent [11:39] sirslacker (~aligp@ce1.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [11:40] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [11:40] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:40] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:41] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7ACA7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:41] can anybody help with building amarok 2.3.1, configure fails on dep check [11:41] CMake Error: The following variables are used in this project, but they are set to NOTFOUND. [11:41] revel0___ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:41] MYSQL_EMBEDDED_LIBRARIES (ADVANCED) [11:41] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:41] did you read Pat's note? [11:42] The embedded MySQL server library is NOT part of MySQL 5.0. [11:42] Delahunt (~robert@fd126-196.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:42] thrice`, which one? [11:42] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-13.1/source/ap/mysql/ [11:44] amarok needs that library produced from the embedded [11:44] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.254.249.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:44] but i've mysql already installed [11:44] er, mysql-embedded.build [11:44] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-13.1/source/ap/mysql/mysql-embedded.build ok, another hint. read that [11:44] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:45] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com expired. [11:45] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:45] it doesn't do anything except install the libmysqld.a library to your system [11:45] ok, i have to use this script [11:46] exactly, then build amarok :> [11:46] good :) [11:46] thanks [11:46] quite lame, but [11:46] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:48] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.157.211) joined ##slackware. [11:48] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [11:48] but works [11:48] GOD I HATE ELITIST nerds [11:49] Just thought I'd throw that out [11:49] vdv, you can kill that file afterwards, I think [11:49] rm a lib? [11:50] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:52] arfon: i know, especially those people who use slackware and are proud of it [11:52] vdv: it's static [11:53] wait, there are modest nerds? [11:53] Nah, I'm talking about a particular ass in #bash who just told me that my script COULDN'T POSSIBLY WORK because I was clueless... [11:54] even though it IS working [11:54] yeah, the world is full of idiots who think all teh werld is with their grasp [11:54] Roin_ (~florian@p5B2BF293.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:55] I asked a simple question and then he (like most elitist nerds) proceeded to tell me that I should forget what I wanted and do it HIS WAY because it was so much better [11:55] foolish foolish self obsessed nerd [11:55] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [11:55] He should know that MY way is the only way [11:55] ... [11:56] All he had to say is: like this ______ but, you may want to do it like this instead". [11:56] arfon: Q "how do i X" A "dont do X" [11:56] :] [11:56] Roin (~florian@p5B2BFF11.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:57] law of irc [11:57] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:57] No it was more like "Q: How do I do X? A: WTF!?! Are you a cluebag??? WHY F DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT????" [11:57] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:57] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:58] All I wanted to do was subsitute "\ " with "*" in a filename in a variable. [11:58] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:58] and tr / sed isn't play with me. :( [11:59] Anyway... /rant_off [11:59] Good rant [11:59] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [11:59] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DW767hyo6s [11:59] reposted [11:59] Roin_ (~florian@p5B2BF293.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:00] arfon: you can use any char as a sed separator [12:00] TY :) [12:00] HAH [12:00] hahaha [12:00] it takes the first non alpha char as the separater [12:00] here's the line I have: myline=$(echo $myline | sed 's/\\\ /\*/g') [12:00] But, it's not working [12:00] have you tried pico? [12:00] Probably a " vs ' problem... [12:01] No Skywise, I don't know enough about pico [12:01] sed -i 's#\#*#g' file [12:01] ? [12:01] Funny thing is, later in the script, I convert back with: sed 's/\*/\\ /g') [12:01] ..and it works perfectly [12:02] "Why do you linux people think it's so wonderful?" Because we know how to use it. [12:02] might need to escape the * in mine [12:02] maybe youre not escaping enough [12:02] Here's what I'm doing, I ran fdupes on a dir and made a file [12:02] all of the dupes appear on a single line [12:02] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [12:02] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [12:02] also, rename is an awesome tool when required =) [12:03] I'm just trying to cut the line into individual paht/files so I can rm them [12:03] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-128-38.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:03] problem is, all of the pths contain "\ " [12:03] are there spaces or anything ? [12:03] (maybe just paste some of your file) [12:03] yes, each duplicate path/file is space delimited [12:03] arfon: did you try the different IFS ? [12:04] No phrag [12:04] i only found out about that today actually =P [12:04] I JUST started banging this out and I have it all working except for the initial "\ " --> "*" [12:04] what is IFS? [12:05] I can't picture it without seeing a sample, sorry [12:05] Internal Field Separater [12:05] arfon: Internal Field Separator [12:05] Hang on, I'll paste the mess .... brb [12:06] http://freeipadn.info/ real or fake? [12:07] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:07] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/7OjKBT22.html [12:07] rhisa, "Predicto is a subscription service, it will cost Ł4.50 per week until you send STOP to 61400." [12:07] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.4) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:08] Oh that's fake [12:08] Alright. thank you. [12:08] dive, hm strange. [12:08] when I man ifs, I get something about spinning graphics.... [12:09] phrag, you dont happen to know how much a hosting with less than 8gb of disk but more or less unlimited upload rate, shell and python would cost in the uk, do you? [12:09] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:11] nachox: the BW is expensive here... i think seed boxes and the like run for about Ł40/month [12:11] ouch, thats quite a bit [12:12] that what happens when you put a whole bunch of people on a tiny island :P [12:12] haha [12:12] acidchild, about you? [12:12] tiny island with one of the worlds best night lifes though! \m/ *getting read for some DUBZZ* [12:12] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:12] say wut tastey food snack? [12:13] ViniciusPXMB (~puroosso@unaffiliated/viniciuspxmb) joined ##slackware. [12:14] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [12:14] Wow! IFS is pretty neat [12:14] I need to keep that in mind [12:14] I do a lot of txt->csv and csv->txt stuff [12:15] isn't that like two lines of code and a libary? [12:15] :D [12:15] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.34.224.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:15] maybe except if there's one command , that's easier [12:15] :D [12:15] arfon: awesome! that has made my day, the fact that i learned something today, and passed it on to someone across the world, and it has helped them [12:16] i love that shit! =) [12:16] what did you learn? [12:16] My rat demanded to come out of his cage [12:16] demanded it [12:17] with his begging ways [12:17] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-41.viapori.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:17] nachox: that you can use different IFS for sed [12:17] and adorable face [12:17] I learned that you can use IFS to do conversions based on delimiters [12:17] kickback (~kick@122.176.240.192) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:17] I hate sed [12:17] like sed -i 's#bleh#blob#g' [12:17] ah, yes [12:17] I like tr but it seems gimped [12:18] the usual is / but when you' re using paths in the input you might want to use : instead [12:18] i like sed very much [12:19] okay so enlighten me on something that has always been a minor annoyance... " vs ' in bash [12:20] That is good to knoqw [12:20] know [12:20] make it easier to keep track of escapes [12:20] a little bit [12:20] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-128-38.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [12:22] yesyes (~yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) joined ##slackware. [12:23] bwahaha, http://www.break.com/index/the-trainer (no nudity but nsfw if you need to worry about that) [12:24] i juist saw that [12:24] that's actually verys tupid [12:24] unoriginal [12:24] not if you are a perv. ;) [12:25] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [12:27] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:30] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 266 seconds [12:30] yarvin (~yarvin@155-197-58-66.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [12:32] mattallmill (~mattallmi@69.71.126.145) joined ##slackware. [12:32] Roin (~florian@p5B2BBADB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:32] asdfjkl (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [12:34] Nick change: emma -> emc44 [12:34] arfon, "" will expand $variables but '' won't [12:37] Nick change: emc44 -> em [12:38] what does 'expand' mean? [12:39] It's when the shell substitutes the actual filename or whatever you're referring to in place of a variable [12:39] like $HOME expands to /home/username [12:39] * expands to "any character or characters" [12:39] ? expands to "any single character" [12:39] $0 expands to "this command" [12:40] $1 expands to "the first argument of this command" [12:40] That's probably enough examples [12:40] should give him a bash tutorial :p [12:40] You know where I learned [12:40] http://linuxcommand.org [12:41] yet again, google for bash pitfalls [12:41] I reference that site all the time [12:42] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:42] http://www.linuxconfig.org/Bash_scripting_Tutorial [12:42] arfon, try this: a=bla; echo "$a"; echo '$a' [12:43] and the same is true in sed [12:43] a=blah ; echo "$a-$a" [12:44] Nice example dive [12:44] BUT, why bother with '$a' when you could just \$a [12:45] cos $a might consist of 'an entry with spaces' [12:45] because echo \$a would output \$a - and wouldn't show the difference between using double-quote and single-quote (which is different) [12:45] spectre (kyle@rrcs-71-42-182-234.sw.biz.rr.com) left ##slackware. [12:46] in sed you can use 's/$something/%somethingelse/' and the same with "". If you really want to use the $ symbol for exaple you can use '' [12:46] er [12:46] in sed you can use 's/$something/$somethingelse/' and the same with "". If you really want to use the $ symbol for exaple you can use '' [12:46] so echo $a = echo "$a" and if [ "$a" has teh same result as if [$a.... [12:46] arfon: it would not show the example in bash that double quotes will expand variables, but single quotes will not [12:47] if you compare strings, always use "$a" [12:47] in $a has spaces in it can cause problems without "" or ${a} [12:47] or even "${a}" [12:47] how about if you compare numbers? [12:47] cen___ (~cen@pool-96-250-21-141.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:47] deadbeatsteve (~guitarman@s207-6-28-60.bc.hsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:48] quoting is really for string vaiables [12:48] numbers don't have that problem [12:48] arfon: look at bash scripting tutorials - there's a way to compare numbers as well [12:48] isn't ${a} an array? [12:48] no [12:48] no - the ${} construct is used to work around command line variable issues [12:49] {} is useful where you want to do a=${b}${c} for example [12:49] since it's useful with other strings - and in bash you can also use ${} for test/substitution stuff as well [12:49] also, if you want to do do TESTME=${TESTME:-"I'm empty"} [12:49] or rather a=${b}bla [12:49] a=${b}${c} compares all 3 together? [12:50] asdfjkl (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [12:50] if TESTME is empty, then replace $TESTME with the string "I'm empty" [12:50] otherwise return whatever is in $TESTME [12:50] arfon, no it doesn't compare , it adds them together a=$a$b actually in that example [12:50] Nick change: deadbeatsteve -> guitarman [12:50] no - a=${b}${c} means "set a equal to the contents of $b and add $c to the end" [12:51] concats $b and $c and stuffs it into $a [12:51] Ah, why not $a="$b$c"? [12:51] but when you want to add a fixed string to a variable you can do a=${a}somestring [12:51] efsd (ad4d721e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.114.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:51] arfon: that's another way - he was just showing you one of the uses of ${} construct [12:51] sorry a="$b$c" [12:51] arfon, that is valid [12:53] This has got to sink in, I need to play with it. [12:53] xcart43m (~guest@host-85-118-231-227.academ.org) joined ##slackware. [12:53] but, THIS is why I'm not a programmer :) [12:53] in bash, an array uses the [] construct [12:53] arfon, you should read http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ [12:53] for an example, look at /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [12:53] ${a[1]} [12:53] many examples there [12:54] I was going to take a look at indubitableness' http://linuxcommand.org [12:54] read them all [12:54] I hope they have pictures :) [12:54] if you've never done any programming before bash is a little strange [12:54] maybe not the best lang to start with [12:55] I'm still trying to wrap my head around pointers in C [12:55] every time I think I understand them I run into a pointer to a pointer [12:55] and I lose my ability to understand what it's going to do [12:55] boojit (~boojit@gw.carter.to) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:56] indubitableness, try some assembler - might give you a better idea of pointers [12:56] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-174.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:56] Nah, I started with machine code, then BASIC then a little PL/1 then a little FORTAN then played with Pascal when it was in vogue. Daily I have to hack batch and Powerterm scripts. But I like Perl and Bash for quickies... The problem is, I don't have the 'Programmer's Mindset' [12:56] address registers and indirect addressing [12:57] arfon, so you just need learn bash syntax [12:57] hrm [12:57] I always hated assembler... I never saw the need when you could just bang out machine code [12:57] I pretty much started with bash [12:57] so I come from the ideas of "I'll just call a program and tell it to do this" [12:58] can't do that in programming [12:58] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [12:58] I mean I guess you CAN [12:58] well there are system calls, even in C [12:58] yeah [12:58] You are correct dive [12:58] system calls [12:58] thank god for system calls [12:59] but at a certain point in programming if your relying on external application after external application to solve a problem then you might as well just be scripting anyway [12:59] yeah - fun machine code playing with the Univac CP642, UYK-20, and UYK-7/UYK-43 computers on the ship [12:59] you're^ [12:59] I'm such a noob [13:01] The thing about machine code people always said was, how do you know which are commands and which are data.... After awhile, you get used to seeong 0F as LDA [13:01] lamah (~ghost@unaffiliated/lamah) joined ##slackware. [13:01] lamah (ghost@unaffiliated/lamah) left ##slackware. [13:01] ..and can sort it out fairly quickly [13:02] back when I learned BASIC and poking in machine code I used to start off with assembler on paper first [13:02] EvanR-work (~evan@wsip-98-175-17-4.br.br.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:02] 0F 00 0F 34 0F FF WHICH ARE THE COMMANDS? [13:02] made it easier to get ideas down [13:02] damned caps lock [13:04] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:04] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [13:04] Lunch tyme.... bbl [13:04] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:10] is slackware 13.1 x86_64 affected by the Linux Xorg security flaw? I saw some story on slashdot about it [13:10] link? [13:11] http://it.slashdot.org/story/10/08/18/1534258/Linux-Xorg-Critical-Security-Flaw-Silently-Patched [13:11] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [13:13] yes foobarz it's a kernel thing [13:14] josemanuel (~josemanue@80.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [13:14] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:17] I wonder if Pat's aware of it? [13:17] seems there are some patches [13:18] boojit (~boojit@gw.carter.to) joined ##slackware. [13:20] the patch will probably be backported when rworkman has time to do it, or in the next version of slackware when Xorg is updated [13:21] I'd like to it implemented asap though [13:21] i was about to fiddle around with the patches but i cant be bothered. it's either only me on a machine with X or multi-user machines that lack X. so, win win ;) [13:21] dive: me too, but just think about all the other holes that are known that aren't patched in any OS :p [13:21] we've had kernel patches before so I imagine it may well be before the next update [13:22] maybe [13:22] the last kernel patch ive seen was due to the null pointer issue [13:22] this one is a biggy. [13:23] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.34.224.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:24] and theres more, rofl. check the update http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Root-privileges-through-Linux-kernel-bug-Update-1061563.html [13:27] lol you guys act surprised [13:27] I don't understand this: "This function has already been implemented in kernel versions 2.6.32.19, 2.6.34.4 and 2.6.35.2," does this that those versions are patched and not affected? [13:28] gniks, it's no surprise to me. [13:28] these things pop up all the time. [13:28] hehe yeah [13:28] i dont' understand that either, poor journalism for sure there [13:28] but the /. story mentioned the same [13:29] are there any jack-audio users in here? I would like to have the audio that comes out of one program be treated as the microphone input to another program. is this possible? Specifically I want to pipe festival/espeak into ekiga/pidgin [13:29] but i gotta says it's worth seeing miss bluepill live. ;) [13:30] dive read the update at the bottom [13:30] xcart43m (~guest@host-85-118-231-227.academ.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:30] some of that article was based on someone else's guesses [13:31] until it pops up on changelogs you can't trust it :p [13:31] hmm [13:31] "to stop all the gossip on ##slackware, i decided to make this patch available. -Pat" ;) [13:32] lol [13:34] Mowah (1000@c-0c8ae555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [13:34] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [13:36] heh [13:36] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:39] Roin (~florian@p5B2BBADB.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [13:40] Roin (~florian@p5B2BBADB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:42] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-171.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:44] jg71: where did you see that at? [13:44] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-172.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [13:44] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [13:46] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [13:46] rofl. it was a joke, alisonken1home [13:46] ok :) chalk it up to being past my bedtime [13:46] (note the smiley.) [13:47] I noted the smiley - but that also could mean you chuckled at it [13:47] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [13:48] well, cant say i didnt have a healthy laugh now, can i ;) [13:48] heh [13:49] artvdroid (~androirc@51.sub-174-222-57.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [13:52] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:53] artvdroid (~androirc@51.sub-174-222-57.myvzw.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:54] guys, if a device is not under proc, what could be wrong? [13:54] look under /sys [13:55] alisonken1home: and if its there? [13:55] then it could be you're looking in the wrong /proc directory [13:55] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [13:55] Howdy folks. [13:55] and if its not there? [13:56] if it's not in either place, then you don't have a driver for it [13:56] sirslacker, what sort of device? [13:56] ( alisonken1home, this is not a problem what i have, want to know this ) [13:56] Is there a way for an NFS server to notify it's clients that it will be going off-line momentarily, perhaps due to a reboot or similar so that they can attempt reconnections to it? [13:56] touchpad [13:56] might be in /dev [13:56] dive: touchpad [13:56] right hmmm [13:56] not sure where mine is [13:56] touchpads are not typically listed as "touchpad" [13:57] Alan_Hicks: none that i heard of [13:57] dmesg |grep -i touchpad [13:57] alisonken1home: i woud sed synpatic issue, the driver must be failed or? [13:57] what kernel? [13:58] alisonken1home: haha i dont know wich kenrel the last opensuse has! but maybe something like ours kernel, on slackware [13:58] uname -a [13:59] suse just came out, so it used one version newer than slackware's latest, which is about 3 months old [14:00] thrice`: i think so, wait i asked her, 34-12 [14:00] 2.6 i mean! [14:02] alisonken1home: that dmesg output, is a funny NULL! [14:03] and so far i found out, the under proc is nothing, i think under sys must be the same! [14:04] that* [14:05] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [14:05] Howdy [14:06] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [14:06] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:07] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. 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[15:01] vps with about 40mb or so of free ram left :-) [15:01] why does slackware 13.1 use a old version of mutt? [15:01] Mutt 1.4.2.3i (2007-05-26) [15:02] dustybin: That is the latest version of mutt. [15:02] fortunev (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:02] ohhh [15:02] jg71: That should be sufficient. [15:02] latest mutt: 1.5.20 [15:02] jg71: Bare in mind that software echo cancellation may suffer on a VPS. [15:03] dustybin: No, that's a development release, not a stable release. [15:03] ohhhhhh [15:03] the mutt people have confused me [15:03] sorry [15:03] Not a problem. [15:04] mattallmill (~mattallmi@69.71.126.145) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:08] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:09] v4nelle (~van@78-185-25.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:10] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [15:12] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) joined ##slackware. [15:14] If anyone cares, I got the script to work.... [15:15] w00t [15:15] good show [15:15] I sed'd the data file to put ":" between the paths and then dumped all of the sed crap out of the script. [15:15] (basically, I cheated) [15:15] hell as long as it solves the problem [15:16] That's the way I see it [15:16] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-192.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] Can anyone suggest a good media (avi) organizer? [15:18] win#1 [15:18] Prefferably something that can handle avi meta tags... [15:21] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [15:21] my xterm is not doing a crlf when the cursor goes past the right edge of the screen. Instead it's wrapping arround and continuing on the same line. Any ideas how I can fix? [15:22] putty does that when I resize it past the initial 80x25 setting [15:23] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:23] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [15:23] Is it happening at a bash prompt or when you are in something like vi? [15:23] afron: it's happening in putty when I remote in, but even when at the original size [15:23] at the bash prompt, [15:24] arfon: my appologies... :) [15:24] mine clears up when I have putty set to the same geometry as the default term size.... [15:24] That's the only help I can give you. [15:24] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:24] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Quit: boring [15:25] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:25] arfon: how do I echo the default term size? [15:25] Note sure [15:25] not sure.... [15:26] fortunev: default for what [15:26] is your putty set to 80x24 by default? [15:26] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-172.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:26] sounds like not a proper vt100 emu [15:26] arfon: yes 80x24 [15:26] did you set a weird term type ? [15:26] adaptr has probably nailed it [15:26] adaptr: could be. In putty you mean? [15:27] or sshd. chekc both [15:27] it should be "xterm" [15:27] brb [15:28] Mine's set to vt100+, not xterm R6 [15:28] I'd have to check, too lazy [15:29] Drat, that's function keys, ignore me [15:29] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-175.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:29] NOT a problem :P [15:29] arfon: you checking in sshd_config? [15:29] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. [15:29] no, I was looking at my Putty setup [15:30] rg3 (~rg3@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [15:30] I'm using the vanilla Slackware ssh setup [15:30] ok... mine is set to xterm. Guess I should try vt100? [15:30] Guest53150 (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) left irc: Excess Flood [15:31] fortunev (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:31] I'm not sure we have the same putty version... [15:31] I can only change that for function keys [15:31] OldGringo (~amigo@p54B0DCAF.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:31] RaNdY (randy@shellium/member/randy) left irc: Quit: changing servers [15:31] I'm running the lastest 'stable' (HA HA) putty [15:32] i need some ideas, i have enough room / bandwidth free for a small website running on my home server, what could i put on it? [15:32] godnotanotherblueergh [15:32] ('stable' meaning I get the Black Screen Of Death if I type too fast or paste data into it. :( [15:32] a small website like a single 4k html file? [15:33] dustybin: dokuwiki [15:33] haha [15:33] dokuwiki sounds interesting [15:33] tiddlywiki [15:33] didwiki [15:33] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7ACA7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:33] doku is great [15:33] didiwiki, I mean. The leanest wiki engine of all [15:33] VERY easy [15:33] fortunev (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:33] hi [15:33] ace :D [15:34] Hi m3tti [15:34] mediawiki? [15:34] NO! [15:34] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:34] Mediawiki sux bawls [15:34] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [15:34] It is a NIGHTMARE to administer [15:34] waximum (~euklides_@h95-155-239-237.dynamic.se.alltele.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:34] Go drupal befoe mediawiki [15:34] arfon: while this is off-topic, i never had any problem with putty, and i use it everyday at work, and type fast and paste a lot of text into it [15:35] eeek ok [15:35] but if you want a small website, dokuwiki rocks [15:35] ace :D [15:36] OldGringo (amigo@p54B0DCAF.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware. [15:36] Still the same problem with vt100. I didnt have this problem in Ubuntu, when using putty. Is there a bash setting that would cause no LF at the end of a line? [15:36] rg3: I see several web posts about this being a bug that still hasn't been fixed... I think it has to do with me using it over a serial connection through bluetooth [15:36] fortunev: what are you trying to do [15:36] hi arfon [15:37] I could see it being a bluetooth/rfcomm problem but, as I said, others have reported the Black Lockedup Screen also [15:37] m3tti: putty hates him [15:37] m3tti: when using putty to remot in, I am not getting a LF when the cursor reaches the end of the line. Instead it wraps arround and types over the same line. [15:38] fortunev: echo $TERM [15:38] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7ACA7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:39] Alan_Hicks: echo $TERM > screen [15:39] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [15:40] fortune, CTRL+A d THEN echo $TERM [15:40] then screen -r [15:41] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7ACA7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:41] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:41] lol mouse and input thing blew up [15:41] strange [15:41] input thing =keyboard? [15:41] yeah [15:41] don't know why [15:41] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:42] i've still some problems with that damn acpi [15:42] terrorists... [15:42] arfon: since I modified putty it's vt100 [15:42] Tell that to Alan_Hicks... I've helped all I can :( [15:42] arfon: I did this when putty had xterm and $TERM was xterm [15:43] Alan_Hicks: ^ [15:43] fortunev: ehm show us your PS1 line [15:43] fortunev: Do you get the same behavior when you're not in screen? [15:43] i had the same issue couple a times ago [15:43] \[\033[1;34m\]\u@\h - \W$\]\[\033[0m\] [15:44] Alan_Hicks: similar behavior. No LF or CR. text just keeps rooling to the right. [15:44] \[\033[1;34m\]\u@\h - \W$\[\033[0m\] [15:44] that should be the line [15:45] there was on \] to much [15:45] RaNdY (randy@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [15:45] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [15:45] fortunev: Ok, and when you're not in screen, what does echo $TERM say? [15:45] aahhh after \W$? [15:46] yeah i think so [15:46] Alan_Hicks: whatever putty is set to. now its set to vt100 [15:46] or maybe you have to remove that before the m [15:46] after the m [15:46] Alan_Hicks: but m3tti may be on to something [15:47] that was my issue too [15:47] You 'I gotta mess with PS1' guys are funny... [15:47] I've never heard of PS1 causing that sort of trouble. Usually its something messed up in the terminal settings. [15:47] fortunev: and ???? [15:48] You can be certain that's not affecting you simply by setting PS1='\u@\h:\w\$ ' [15:48] I like to add colors [15:48] green for regular users, red for root [15:48] yellow for elevated users [15:48] and green text for root [15:48] red and blue like the gentoo prompt like it that way [15:48] Hey, Bill Gates said that C:> was good enough and I believe him. [15:49] white text for everyone else [15:49] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-42-82.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:49] Action: arfon casts the troll line... [15:50] arfon: Actually Bill Gates said that A:> was good enough. [15:50] HAH! [15:50] Boosch [15:50] suid0_ (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [15:51] i like host workingdir $ [15:51] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:51] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:51] or # for root [15:51] I do that too [15:51] Nick change: suid0_ -> suid0 [15:51] but the colors help me not make mistakes [15:51] If I have several terminals open doing different tasks [15:51] I miss floppies (8" ones that is) [15:51] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Client Quit [15:51] yes right but i like the combination of red and blue [15:51] XD [15:51] but I can usually keep track of non root work by just keeping it all in a screen session [15:52] m3tti: looks like it may be PS1. your suggestion garbled the prompt, but I got the CRLF I was expecting. Just need to tweak it some. [15:52] woho i'm usefull XD [15:52] and not logging into root inside that screen session [15:53] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [15:53] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [15:53] Pretty much as long as it doesn't say "bash4.1>" [15:53] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [15:53] I can be happy with it [15:56] ah, amarok is evil! [15:56] audacious gtkui ftw [15:56] even in kde [15:56] Arfon, do you use ModemManager? [15:57] now must decide: clementine or exaile [15:57] vlc [15:57] no, just wvdial and pppd [15:57] I vote vlc [15:57] It claims to be able to do signal strength on the MC760, while connected. [15:57] i_is_cat (~i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:57] Does Modem Manager let you see signal strength? [15:57] There's a nice light weight one called gogglemm that compiles nicely on slackware [15:57] slackbuild for it I think [15:58] is it GUI? [15:58] yeah [15:58] (I need CLI) [15:59] ah [15:59] my bad [15:59] oh wait [15:59] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-192.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:59] That makes me sad [15:59] but vdv is trying to get amarok [15:59] is that CLI [15:59] I'm confused here [15:59] Guest15725 (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [16:00] http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/6410/mainwindow0914.png [16:00] If my music library wasn't so poorly tagged I would use this [16:00] Can't see pix.... on a CLI [16:00] OH!!! for the Media [16:00] Yeah, GUI is good for media [16:01] but while all the files are named appropriately, whatever music managers use to label and organize the music doesn't just go by file name [16:01] so my music ends up all over the place [16:01] hunterm (~hunterm@cpe-098-024-132-073.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:01] my all important bob marley collection is un-navigat-able [16:01] navigate-able [16:01] same here my tags are crap [16:01] I could fix it but it's like 2 thousand files [16:02] I'm looking for something to keep track of all of my DVD rips into avis [16:02] so I just use vlc [16:02] and the damn audcious thing i don't find anything on them [16:02] brb [16:05] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:05] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:06] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [16:06] ModemManager appears to let you do stuff CLI, if you're clever. [16:06] It uses Dbus, has an example python script that uses it. [16:07] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-228.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] where in /var/logs I can see initrd logs ? [16:08] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:09] paul424: the initrd does not produce anything that gets loged.. as long as the initrd runs the / is still mounted read-only [16:09] m3tti: the prompt was it. had an extra /]. removed it and problem solved. Eyes like a hawk! Thanks [16:09] ahh sure great ... [16:10] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [16:10] paul424: if anything goes wrong during initrd scripts, it will be printet on screen, and the system is likely to just halt with a kernel panic [16:10] like "kernel panic: unknown block device(8,0)" or some such [16:10] Alan_Hicks: Thanks for assist too. [16:10] macavity: yeap I have quite many of them, huh probably due to the ASUS motherboard :P [16:11] fortunev: np man i had the same some time ago [16:11] i'd be nice if the kernel had some sort of small shell to fix the initrd script when a problem happens. [16:11] paul424: more likely that you are forgetting to include the filesystem driver... [16:11] macavity: those are memory paging requests [16:11] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [16:12] macavity: no, :P, I remember how I screwed with the filesystem driver :P [16:12] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [16:12] paul424: what is your mkinitrd command? [16:13] those are segmentation faults or page request errors , really it has nothing to do with the FS [16:13] mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.33.4-smp -f ext3 -r /dev/sda3 -m usbhid:ehci-hcd:ohci-hcd:mbcache:jbd:ext3 -o /boot/initrd.gz [16:14] rhisa (~risah@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:15] rhisa (~risah@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [16:15] paul424: iomap.c errors by any chance? [16:15] and generic-smp supports whatever controler is on that mobo? i know that quite a few ASUS mobos fit an extra jmicron conrtoler too to get extra ports/pata backward compatibility [16:16] s/too/to/ [16:16] Someone wanna tell me what dumb thing I am overlooking? Turned on DNSMasq on machine 1. Added local machine names to the hosts file of machine 1. put machine 1 first in the resolv.conf of machine 2. Machine 2 can now resolve machine 3's ip fine but not machine 2. [16:17] correction: machine 2 can now resolve machine 3's ip but not machine 1's. [16:17] arfon: your problem is third base! [16:18] macavity: no idea, I m just a simple slackware user ... windows does not require special controler's drivers just to boot up .... :P [16:18] Who's on 3rd? [16:18] ok what does the jmicron stands for ? [16:18] paul424: lspci will tell you [16:18] sinedrio (~sinedrio@bl13-223-67.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:18] i am so glad that i got rid of windows ages ago [16:18] paul424: thats the company name [16:19] lspci shows a dozen controlers of SIS [16:19] redhate (~inova@201-27-87-179.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:19] ah, an AMD system then [16:19] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [16:20] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:20] paul424: you can grep -i $NAME_OR_NUMBER /boot/config-generic-smp-2.6.33.4-smp of the sis fellas to see if they are built in or modules [16:20] anyhow, the jmicron is built in i just learned [16:21] but i should think that most SIS stuff is build in too [16:21] only the wildly essoteric ones are left out [16:21] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7ACA7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:21] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:22] m3tti (~user@p57B7ACA7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:24] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:24] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:24] macavity: some are build in some are modules [16:24] rworkman ping [16:24] like this : CONFIG_AGP_SIS=m [16:25] qneo (~knao@adsl-dyn-80.95-102-93.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [16:25] paul424: thats for the SIS AGP driver [16:25] paul424: Advanced Graphics Port [16:25] yeah sure I know whats the AGP :P [16:25] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:25] grazymax (~grazymax@host142-157-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:25] paul424: you need to look over the lspci output and identify disk controlers and looks for those [16:26] macavity: I missed one point , how do you assume I have problems iwth the disk controlers ? [16:26] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-128-38.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [16:27] didnt you say you had a kernel panic like the one i showed? [16:27] Action: macavity reads up again [16:27] not like the ONE you showed [16:27] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:27] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [16:27] ah.. my bad [16:28] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-128-38.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:29] macavity: uhh I had one several months ago [16:29] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [16:29] and you helped then :P maybe thats :) [16:30] ah :P [16:31] Nick change: Gimped -> gimped [16:32] uhh I am here from 21:45 - 00:28 local time [16:32] how could that happen if I am just chatting .... [16:33] paul424: can you ping me when you found a solution? I think I have a similar issue with .35 :) [16:33] haven't had time to investigate yet :/ [16:34] easiest vbox recompile! http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/aJWEam89.html [16:35] uhh its only 22:31 local time , mobo mistake [16:35] KVM for the win! [16:35] agreed :) [16:35] I loved virtualbox [16:36] then I tried xen [16:36] wasn't thrilled [16:36] then I tried KVM [16:36] never looked back [16:36] indubitableness: trying to make a song? :) [16:36] sign it indubitableness ! [16:36] sing even [16:37] hah [16:37] Jaaaaayne. The man they call Jaaaaayne [16:37] indubitableness: what kvm? [16:37] wait [16:37] wrong show [16:37] I sux at typing [16:37] Kernel Virtual Machine [16:37] yeah that was the mobo chosen by my dad [16:38] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:38] But what to tell about him electrical enginer with Master degree ,,, once he bought online 4 mobos one by one because none of them were working [16:39] I saw how he does mount them :P without those metal legs which isolates the circuts from the metal desktop box , so the bare circtuts were touching it X). [16:39] X) [16:40] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [16:40] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:41] paul424, sounds pretty knowledgeable [16:41] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.123) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:43] artv61 (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [16:43] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:43] whats knowledgable in that ? [16:44] http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l2a31d298g1qass95o1_500.jpg [16:44] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:44] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:45] indubitableness: hey, give me some screen-shots of your KVM [16:45] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [16:45] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [16:45] Well the interface is qemu [16:46] So I'd have to just screenshot a running VM [16:46] and I don't feel like doing that [16:46] you know what a running VM looks like [16:46] and the interface is command line [16:46] redhate (~inova@201-27-87-179.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: User abort with 5 Ctrl-C's [16:46] Virtual box is still my second favorite [16:47] I wish either of them could run a friggen windows 98 set up reliably [16:47] ok [16:47] I have to maintain a windows 98 machine to play my favorite games [16:47] which slackbuilds do you need for KVM? [16:47] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.wpbhfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:48] Mowah (1000@c-0c8ae555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:48] arfon: its all on slackbuilds.. [16:48] I know qemu [16:48] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/system/kvm/ I just use this one [16:48] but what is kvm-kmod... [16:48] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Quit: filmtime [16:48] The application is called qemu-system-x86-64 [16:48] virt-manager... etc? [16:48] which I alias as "kvm" [16:49] I don't use any of those others [16:49] indubitableness: why did you choose kvm over vbox? is it better? [16:49] It runs at a better native speed for me [16:49] just that? [16:49] and I REALLY like the qemu interface [16:49] you didnt have to build qemu-kvm? [16:49] mainly that [16:49] it seems less bulky [16:49] naw [16:49] indubitableness: what proc you have? [16:50] Processor? [16:50] yeah [16:50] AMD [16:50] one second [16:50] AMD 4800+ [16:50] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] ah the old ones [16:50] Not that old! [16:50] but yeah [16:50] well, i understand [16:51] I like that KVM seems to be able to handle any image file format I throw at it [16:51] I don't know if vbox can do the same [16:51] I never tried [16:51] tbh i have phenom 545 with 6mb cache, i dont think ill see improvements in speed [16:52] yeah [16:52] I think KVM can handle virtualizing more processors at once [16:52] it's up to 64 I think [16:52] I don't know how many vbox can do though [16:53] vbox has some stuff kvm doesn't [16:53] like [16:53] I don't think vbox has 3D support [16:53] I mean [16:53] kvm [16:53] tekzilla (~jon@d032204.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:53] I don't even know if kvm can do USB passthrough [16:53] ill google up now kvm vs vbox [16:53] although I think it can [16:53] I've never needed it [16:53] Too easy to work with images [16:54] and I don't use VMs for gaming [16:54] indubitableness: uhm, and i thought you are the master of kvm.. [16:54] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:54] oh no [16:54] no no [16:54] kvm this kvm that.. :) [16:54] I just use it sometimes [16:54] for win98? :D [16:54] vbox has advantages over it [16:54] I wish man [16:54] nothing seems to run windows 98 [16:54] except maybe bochs [16:55] this conversation is over :D [16:55] :p [16:55] I never did figure out how to install anything on bochs though [16:55] heh [16:55] tekzilla (~jon@d030161.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [16:55] I had to get an old computer and install 98 on it natively [16:55] for three games [16:55] that dosbox and wine can't handle [16:56] What games were those? [16:56] I'm curious which ones are so good you'ld put yourself through that. [16:56] Shiny's Messiah, which STILL won't run on the 98 box I have and is, in fact, the reason I tried linux in the first place [16:56] to see if it would run in wine [16:56] Zork: Grand Inquisitor [16:56] and Redguard [16:56] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: see ya! [16:56] guitarman (~guitarman@s207-6-28-60.bc.hsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:57] Wouldn't you like to play a nice game of chess? [16:57] hah [16:57] not against the computer [16:57] that guy always whips my ass [16:57] phear the whopr [16:57] macavity: The current package supports many ethernet cards, modems and serial cards, several SCSI adapters, most ATA/IDE devices, and some SRAM and FLASH memory cards [16:57] It might be bedtime [16:58] and 3:55 pm [16:58] in this 100 degree weather [16:58] huh so PCMCIA module does not support only pure PCMCIA controlers ? [16:58] You in Tx indubitableness ? [16:58] yup [16:58] me too [16:59] I'm in San Antonio [16:59] where you at? [16:59] I mean the PCMICIA module take long time too load ... so I wanted to drop it. [16:59] Austin [16:59] nice [16:59] meh [16:59] ?me hates heat [16:59] Yeah [16:59] paul424: do you even have a PCMCIA card? [17:00] Action: arfon hates heat even [17:00] It's good for my garden [17:00] but I'm fat [17:00] And the air conditioner is acting up a little [17:00] so it's not even on right now [17:00] macavity: non seniore [17:00] THAT'S the way to sell yourself! :) [17:00] paul424: chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia then [17:00] fat aaaand sweaty [17:00] martin_hex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:00] sexy [17:00] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Disconnected by services [17:00] Nick change: martin_hex -> martinhex [17:01] stinky_ (nemesis@free.blinkenshell.org) joined ##slackware. [17:01] ovnicraft_ (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. 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[17:01] it is bed time for me [17:01] freenode fart [17:01] paul424: no need to fiddle with kernels or initrds for that :-) [17:01] jayne (maddhatt@freenode/staff/jayne) joined ##slackware. [17:01] Thanks for the mental image [17:01] hah [17:02] fully clothed! [17:02] anc (~anc@216.59.33.89) joined ##slackware. [17:02] br00tal (~br00tal@c-66-41-95-104.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:02] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [17:02] macavity: the inird crushes are sepparate story [17:02] sukaeto (~sukaeto@pool-173-49-229-225.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:02] its strange especially I never get in normal work seg faultt , but only during bootime [17:03] we are all just children of the Great Arkleseizure :P [17:03] paul424: roger [17:03] paul424: have you tried clearing out /etc/initrd-tree before running mkinitrd? [17:03] Action: Skywise fears the great wiping [17:04] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:06] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:06] macavity: nope how to do that ? [17:06] Skywise: If you use the quilted rm -rf, it doesn't hurt as bad. [17:06] paul424: rm -rf /etc/initrd-tree [17:06] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-175.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:06] paul424: it is where mkinird makes the temporary tree before it zips it up to the initrd.gz file [17:07] paul424: if you want to learn about how the whole initrd process works you can read over the scripts in there [17:07] ok [17:08] window hide 3 [17:09] hate when i do that! [17:11] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [17:11] Guest89781 (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [17:11] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [17:11] mkinitrd -C clears the previous tree [17:12] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:12] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.66) joined ##slackware. [17:13] uhh ok next time I will try that :P [17:14] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:14] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [17:14] macavity: just no idea what is the use for that ... I have never altered that ... also I suppose not so many new packages may alter that so :P [17:14] I ran fdupe on my drive and after I rm'd the duplicates, I freed up 340Gb! [17:14] I <3 fdupes [17:15] for fdupe DISK REFRESHER call now 4-555-666-777 [17:15] WAIT! Let me get my credit card! [17:17] paul424: mkinitrd makes /boot/initrd-tree if it does not exist.. however, if it does exist it will re-use it from last time without removing any old stuff [17:17] paul424: so, it might be because you have some modules from an older kernel lingering in there or some thing [17:18] fortunev (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:19] also, alisonken1home++ i forgot about -C [17:20] Jävla rödingar! [17:20] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:21] man mkinitrd is your friend :) [17:21] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:21] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:22] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-228.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:22] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.70.48) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:23] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.80.93) joined ##slackware. [17:24] this is general problem with linux : for each issue they are many home brew solutions , but after that it seems you were doing that wrong [17:24] uhh I abstract here from mkinitrd -C [17:24] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [17:24] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:27] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-82.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [17:28] huh don't you agree ? [17:29] i am not entirely sure what you are getting at.. i just always make sure that i use a fresh tree with mkinitrd unless i have a specific reason not to (like making an initrd that will work on more than one machine) [17:30] so i wouldn't call this a "homebrow solution".. it is documented in mkinitrd(8) [17:30] plus that is clearly an advantage [17:30] oh, and it is -c not -C [17:30] having too many solutions that is [17:32] anyone a wiz with the gcc preprocessor? 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[18:15] 1992 : "Of course 5 years from now that will be different, but 5 years from now everyone will be running free GNU on their 200 MIPS, 64M SPARCstation-5." [18:15] ohh Tannenbaum , ohhh Tannenbaum :P [18:16] m3tti (~user@p57B7ACA7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:17] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [18:17] m3tti (~user@p57B7ACA7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:18] sorry guys i've to do my sh*t on the cli interface like that more than X stuff [18:21] wtf are you talking about [18:21] hunterm (~hunterm@cpe-098-024-132-073.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:22] I WANT TO REPRODUCE [18:22] Reproduce like a reproductive entity. [18:23] But without a child as the outcome. [18:23] Why can't a woman give birth to something useful, like say a plasma TV? [18:23] there are places to sell your kid [18:23] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. 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[19:05] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.102) left irc: Quit: Quiting [19:05] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.102) joined ##slackware. [19:08] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-128-38.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [19:11] hello happy people [19:13] paul424: that's a good question, ask the person who wrote that [19:14] paul424: cause i'm curious what they mean [19:14] minix is kinda obsolete :p [19:14] gniks: yes and no [19:15] hence "kinda" [19:16] Has anybody had any issues with HDD idle power down? [19:16] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-181-89-82.range86-181.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:16] not i [19:18] shonudo (user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [19:19] v4nelle (~van@78-185-25.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:19] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) joined ##slackware. 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(/usr/bin/vi is a symlink) [19:54] ah cool [19:54] thanks [19:55] you may also want to set the EDITOR and VISUAL variables [19:55] hi everyone hi alienBOB: I'm begging pardon from all you ppl for that I put my nick as a 'LinuxExpert' and Bost some expertise that I don't have. Seriously. [19:55] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:55] Action: ananke seconds the EDITOR & VISUAL env settings [19:57] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [19:57] you need to set both, the EDITOR variable is used by programs like crontab [19:58] ashe (~ashe@118.96.239.188) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:00] ashe (~ashe@125.163.45.250) joined ##slackware. [20:03] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:05] fortunev (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:02] help... trying to install nvidia driver , fails on gcc ver , asks for the same ver as the kernel was compiled with , i did a basic full system install for slack so idk what its talking about the versions should match eh ... could someone give a brother a break and help meh [22:03] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Quit: Sir_Konrad [22:04] and yes ive googled it for two dayz now , still no luck with slack systems anyhow ,other distros offer help [22:04] apn (~apn@pool-71-190-25-46.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: apn [22:05] Jennifur (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-17-174.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:05] CaptChron: you didn't install a kernel package from another slack version did you? [22:05] CaptChron: you might need to recompile your kernel, then it will match... I'm not sure all the steps to take tho [22:05] Action: kakoi voltou: [off] duraçăo: 29mins 42secs [22:06] nah was format n install no upgrade [22:06] kakoi (slackware@189-19-110-162.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: just... [22:06] no other ver where there [22:06] CaptChron: 13.1? [22:06] fresh install 13.1 [22:07] i reinstalld my gcc n glibc [22:07] CaptChron: a full install? [22:07] yep full [22:07] you're installing the correct driver for your system's architecture? [22:07] are you running 64 or 32? [22:07] yep [22:07] 32 [22:08] legacy driver [22:09] i even tried installing a lower ver of gcc and doing the CC=gcc-ver sh and ingroned the error and it still faild [22:09] on the nvidia module [22:09] so idk ? [22:09] CaptChron: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/256.44/ [22:09] hmm k [22:10] ill try that here in a min ty [22:11] no prob. [22:11] if you go down a level, you can see all the other versions as well. [22:11] I like that much better than browsing and searching with the way how nvidia has their site setup. [22:12] 4sure eh ty again , ill track on this here after din , wifey is a good cook lol [22:12] CaptChron: i'd also like to point out, http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/system/nvidia-driver/ [22:13] lneto_ (~lneto@186.205.174.251) joined ##slackware. [22:13] CaptChron: I'd say you should never change gcc and glibc packages unless you are doing a upgrade or keeping up with -current [22:13] CaptChron: you will also need, http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/system/nvidia-kernel/ [22:13] lneto_ (lneto@186.205.174.251) left ##slackware. [22:13] M3no1ti0s (M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.102) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:13] well thats what i get for googleing eh [22:13] keppler (c958ee99@gateway/web/freenode/ip.201.88.238.153) left irc: [22:14] well did you just reinstall the gcc and glibc packages from the 13.1 repo? if so, no harm done even if it was unnecessary. [22:16] CaptChron: you should restore them to the 13.1 packages... and if you have the problem still, download linux 2.6.33.4 and use the config file from slackware kernel sources and use it as your .config file and do "make oldconfig" etc... if you follow me... some people need initrd rebuilt.. someone else can explain that [22:16] uuuuu (ad4d721e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.114.30) joined ##slackware. [22:17] slick55 (~slick@cpe-075-176-171-074.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:17] alright heres the deal , fresh 13.1 install , then nvidia install =fail wants gcc the kernal was compiled with , i googled and found where you could istall a lower ver of gcc and tell the install what ver to use w/CC= anyways nothing i do works , i havent tred the latest help yet cause im eating my dinner ... [22:19] was one pkg i installd of gcc4.3.3 i removed it already so idk whats the deal with that ? [22:19] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.8.177.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:20] indubitableness1 (~indubitab@adsl-99-70-101-116.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:20] indubitableness (~indubitab@adsl-99-58-114-210.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:21] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:25] indubitableness (~indubitab@adsl-99-58-114-210.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:26] agentc0re, that do not help . wrong driver for meh card ty tho, i have the right one already [22:26] did* [22:27] CaptChron: which driver is it? [22:27] So again my issuse is NVIDIA wants the same ver of gcc as the kernel was compiled with [22:28] CaptChron: there was a nvidia version that required a patch, that's fixed now, in a recent kernel version. I remember running into the problem back on 13.0 -current when the kernel got updated. [22:28] CaptChron: what nvidia driver version? [22:28] 96.43.18 [22:28] or 16 either [22:28] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:28] i have em booth [22:29] a patch eh [22:29] yup [22:29] hmm [22:29] but iirc is was for a 176.XXX something version. [22:29] I'd have to google around to find it. [22:30] indubitableness (~indubitab@99.104.92.109) joined ##slackware. [22:30] yeah i need the legacy ver lol old tech (its my wifes pc ,lol) [22:31] CaptChron: here is the kenrel source for generic and the .SlackBuild is in the subdirectory... http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.1/source/k/ [22:31] archaic (4a49fd22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.73.253.34) joined ##slackware. [22:31] evening folks [22:31] can 13.1 run on a pentium 1 machine? [22:31] CaptChron: i bet it has something to do with 13.1 and it's change in gcc... it's been a while.... i may be talking out of my ass. [22:32] well hey ty for the talk none the less [22:32] CaptChron: using the right SlackBuild in the right subdir you can rebuild your kernel package [22:32] or do i have to get an earlier release? [22:32] archaic: i'm guessing it could...running it on a pII [22:32] archaic, i belive w/huge.s kernel you can [22:32] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [22:32] last time i tried it told me that cmov was missing from the instruction set [22:33] its also a laptop and i'd like for acpid to run on it hehe [22:33] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:33] archaic: pentium I != acpi [22:33] foobarz, so your saying i need to rebuild my kernal package eh [22:33] can i at least have it tell me that it's running low on battery? [22:34] archaic: apmd should do it [22:34] should be fine thine [22:34] *then [22:34] time to get out my floppy, usb drive, and linld.com [22:35] CaptChron: yeah, that is surely to eliminate the possibility that your actually a gcc / kernel mismatch... after that, you still have problem, then the problem with that old nvidia package not working right [22:35] archaic: you mean loadlin? [22:35] last time i did it that way i couldn't boot into the os [22:35] nyRednek: no i just use linld.com and give it one of the kernel images from the usb drive [22:35] archaic: ok... [22:35] unless this distro has bootfloppies that support usb [22:35] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:36] so i can mount my stuff after it boots hehe [22:36] slick55 (~slick@cpe-075-176-171-074.sc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [22:36] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:36] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-162-101.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:37] foobarz, well ty ,,, i will try this here ,, thanks eh [22:40] CaptChron: you might be able to do ./NVIDIA-pkg.run --no-cc-version-check if that option is supported on that old package [22:41] lol says unable to find gcc with that cmd [22:42] fails ill try that src deal here [22:47] CaptChron [22:47] yeah [22:47] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [22:47] CaptChron: lol... looks like rebuilding the kernel-modules package is a seperate SlackBuild [22:47] don't want to forget that [22:47] sure ty lol [22:48] where's raela [22:48] we were gonna bone [22:49] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [22:49] rhisa (~risah@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: rhisa [22:52] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [22:52] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) joined ##slackware. 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[22:59] CaptChron: you can read the SlackBuild file to see what files it expects and where they should be [23:00] lol duh danks [23:00] CaptChron: I'm guessing your want to use generic-smp [23:00] nah huge [23:00] ok that will be fine too I guess [23:00] for now [23:01] you can also make a custom configured kernel later [23:01] weed out things drivers you don't need [23:01] so out of curiosity what kernel jives with a AMD proc [23:01] i know the smp do jive [23:01] "jives"? [23:01] :P [23:02] works well with [23:02] I know what it means, turkey. [23:02] lol [23:02] I didn't know that this IRC channel got sent back to the seventies, though. :) [23:02] jive turkey lol [23:03] so yeah what kernel works well with AMD im using a huge but would a gen work also ? [23:03] yes [23:04] kewl ty [23:04] nevar tryed the gen before [23:08] just make sure to get the i686 kernel if your processor isn't 64-bit [23:08] otherwise it won't work :P [23:08] popl: iirc, the slackware64 dvd won't boot on an i686 system [23:08] and your computer will come to life and stab your mom in the stomach [23:09] nyRednek: how's that work? [23:09] I prefer to uninstall the kernel and kernel-modules package once the system is running, and unpack my own linux sources in /usr/src (maybe symlink it is /usr/src/linux if you need that)... then copy the config-generic-smp to /usr/src/linux/.config, then make oldconfig then make menuconfig and go thru it like crazy and say clean up the whole thing so it only has the drivers I need for my hardware ... make -j4 make install (assume your /etc/l [23:09] ilo.conf is good) and make modules make modules_install and reboot works for me [23:09] popl: i think the loader just prints an error message if you try to boot from it [23:10] "Hey dumbass, you can't install this on your machine." [23:10] Pat wouldn't be that rude. [23:10] s/Pat/Mr. Volkerding/ [23:11] popl: i think it's a bit nicer than that...saying something about your machine not being 64 bit-capable, and to use a 32 bit disc [23:11] bah [23:12] ever sign up for a newsletter then find out they signed you up for like 10 other newsletters? [23:12] jerks [23:12] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:12] didn't read the fine print? :) [23:12] thought I did [23:12] CaptChron: but kernel-headers you do not change, unless your are upgrading or keeping up with -current [23:12] popl: meaning their privacy policy [23:13] nyRednek: I always read the privacy policy before I signup somewhere. [23:13] also the TOS [23:13] popl: ok... [23:13] well i started the build for the kernel ,well see here if it works , [23:14] draco moved off their own site to google code [23:14] bah, Google is telling me what IP my last activity is from. [23:14] that distro will soon die, methinks [23:14] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [23:15] macavity: hi [23:15] nyRednek: I wish Ubuntu would die. [23:15] s/Ubuntu/Ubuntu users/ [23:15] popl: it fills a need [23:15] typo :P [23:16] popl: just don't use it, and ignore an ubuntu user who can't seem to understand that their world isn't the only worl [23:16] world [23:17] luckily I'm USian [23:17] we're great at ignoring stuff [23:17] CaptChron: sometimes people have trouble with alsa sound modules, then it is best to compile your kernel with Sound support module and under that, OSS Sound (CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME=y)... then you can make your down alsa-driver package from the alsa-driver source code from alsa-project.org... too much information [23:18] WHERE'S RAELA HER PENIS MY MOUTH BIG BUSINESS [23:18] I couldn't get a submarine sandwich because the shop has been closed due to structural damage. Like I care. [23:18] archaic (4a49fd22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.73.253.34) left irc: Quit: BABE I CAME [23:18] popl: i live in NYC, there are thousands, if not tens of thousands, that go past me, that i never see [23:18] nyRednek: you actually live in NYC? [23:18] which part? [23:18] popl: staten island [23:19] haha [23:19] it all makes sense now [23:19] popl: what all makes sense? [23:20] ZMR (~Who@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [23:20] nothing, I just wanted to see what your reaction would be. :P [23:20] foobarz, so i still a little uncertain why this is happening for me, it was a fresh install , yet nvidia claims that the gcc is differnt i dont get it? [23:20] btw still waint on the slackbuild [23:20] waiting* [23:21] what do you mean 'waiting' ? [23:21] nyRednek: you live close enough to Snooki to punch her in the face. [23:21] popl: who's snooki? [23:21] CaptChron: it could have happened because the kernel was built on a different CPU than your AMD, and somehow that makes a difference... I'm guessing [23:22] nyRednek: someone you'd want to punch in the face if you knew who she was [23:22] foobarz, hmm well thats makes some sense ty [23:22] it's good you don't [23:22] popl: you know, for payback, there are other ways [23:22] nyRednek: she's a reality tv "star" [23:22] popl: oh, that jersey shore bs [23:22] yep [23:23] popl: i handle that rather easily...i don't watch it [23:23] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:23] popl: not to mention that there are a *lot* of stuck up bitches on this island [23:24] "you may be a princess, but don't forget that you're dating a prince, and a prince likes a bj once in a while" [23:25] :P [23:25] does New Jersey actually smell? [23:25] lol [23:26] popl: some parts do [23:27] wow, Staten Island almost seceded from New York [23:27] popl: yeah, at one point [23:28] I'm either moving to the bay area in north California or to NYC eventually. [23:29] cali-gorn-ya [23:29] yuk [23:29] popl: well, rent is cheapest in staten island or the outer boroughs [23:30] nyRednek: that's 'cause you're close to the landfills [23:30] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:30] popl: i'm nowhere near a landfill [23:30] popl: i'm not too far from the rowland hook container hub though [23:31] nyRednek: isn't Staten Island tiny? I remember the whole "Fresh Kill" landfill thing in the news... [23:31] i enjoy my state [23:31] montana [23:31] rocks [23:31] lol [23:31] popl: fresh kill is a bit further south on the island...by several miles [23:31] yeah, enjoy your supervolcano CaptChron [23:31] lol will do [23:32] toast some marshmellow on it eh [23:32] with all the grizzly bears [23:32] popl: if it blows, he'll be dead so fast, he won't know the difference [23:32] I'm only going to move to NYC if I have enough money to afford a brownstone of my very own [23:32] nah it will go south [23:33] toward cali and nyc [23:33] um [23:33] and get them lol [23:33] are you high right now? [23:33] why yes [23:33] that's what I thought [23:33] hippy [23:33] lol [23:34] nyRednek: I hope it happens soon. [23:35] nyRednek: the faster the country descends into a post-apocalyptic mob-state the faster I can get my jeep-mounted .50 cal. [23:37] CaptChron: have you ever been to Yellowstone National Park? [23:37] popl: why not mount a hammer system on the roof instead? 12ga is much more flexible [23:37] popl: those things can be millions [23:38] nah i live between glacier and yellow most my life and havent been ,,, lame eh [23:38] popl: my building is worth $400k, and it only has 3 apartments in it [23:38] your building as in you reside there or you are the slum lord? [23:38] popl: i live there [23:39] popl: the landlord isn't *that* bad in this building [23:39] my friend owns a building in PA and he says the people there are total dumbasses [23:39] jupenz (~iMac@222.127.13.226) joined ##slackware. [23:39] It must be the water back east [23:39] popl: welcome to the eastern seaboard [23:40] CaptChron: look at pictures of Yellowstone and imagine everything covered with a big layer of dust [23:40] lol [23:40] sure [23:40] CaptChron: if you live within a 250 mile radius of Yellowstone you'll get bombarded [23:40] popl: in a post-apocalyptic world, nyc *and* the cali coast would both be gone [23:41] should be alright [23:41] nyRednek: manhattan would be first :D [23:41] popl: true [23:41] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [23:41] popl: the subway tunnels would flood and take the street level down as they eroded [23:42] indubitableness (~indubitab@adsl-99-33-34-147.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:42] I saw The Day After Tomorrow [23:42] ;P [23:42] popl: if someone wanted to hit nyc where it hurt, just blow the tunnel between manhattan and brooklyn on the R [23:43] CaptChron: look up "pyroclastic flow" on Wikipedia [23:43] indubitableness (~indubitab@adsl-99-97-139-200.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:43] nyRednek: how long do you think it would take people to go at each other? [23:43] popl: 5 minutes, tops [23:43] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [23:43] that long? ;P [23:44] popl: let's put it this way, i got a bridge to jersey right in front of my front door, i'd be out before anyone noticed me [23:45] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:47] popl: and, unlike the holland tunnel, i wouldn't have a 6 hour traffic jam waiting to cross [23:47] you'd still have to get through New Jersey [23:47] popl: yeah, elizabeth can be a pain [23:47] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:48] popl: but beyond that, i'd have a .50 toll into PA [23:49] popl: in other words, it wouldn't be that hard to get out [23:49] popl: not for me, anyways [23:49] if there was a catastrophe do you think the toll roads would be operational? [23:49] i know the back streets and us highways through jersey [23:49] I don't know how they are structured over there [23:49] i think jersey would man the tollbooths while the bridges stood [23:49] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [23:50] governor christie is just that kind of guy [23:52] I don't think that's very realistic. I think in a flood scenario that people would go batshit and nobody would show up to work. [23:55] popl: possible... [23:55] I saw pictures of the flooding in Pakistan [23:55] there was this picture of a little girl crying 'cause some jerkwad stole a bag of rice that she had just gotten from an aid truck [23:55] \fwc\ (~more@nat/ibm/x-wotpeiddneeeqnsv) joined ##slackware. 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