[00:00] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:01] nathanbw, so / = /dev/sda1 ; ntfs is /dev/sda3 ; is there anything after /dev/sda3 [00:03] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:04] Woops, root is /dev/sda2, /dev/sda1 is the ntfs partition which I want to reformat as ext3. /dev/sda3 is swap, and /dev/sda4 is storage. You can see my fstab here: http://pastebin.ca/1340773 [00:05] I don't need any of the data from the ntfs partition. If I could merge it with the storage partition, that'd be cool, but I'd be content to just get an ext3 fs on it, so i could start mounting /home on it. [00:05] nathanbw, being that ntfs is located before your "/" partition then I'll say no. You're supposed to be able to. However, I've seen gparted mess that up. [00:06] Cool [00:06] maybe the cli tools do it right, I can't say, but I , as a rule of thumb dont mess with tables before / [00:06] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] Well, I'm thinking of doing it like this: remove windows from /etc/lilo.conf, reinstall lilo, boot slackware install cd, cfdisk to change the partition type, reboot to slackware and run mke2fs [00:06] :-( [00:07] That's sad [00:07] I guess I'll just back everything up before I get going [00:07] nah it's not sad, it's playing it safe. nothing wrong with that. [00:07] The partition scheme as it stands is outdated. [00:08] Evening... Commissioner..... [00:08] So I might just backup and then repartition the whole disk [00:09] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-3-35.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: "876877878" [00:10] /nick Theo [00:10] :) [00:10] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/what-featureschanges-would-you-like-to-see-in-future-slackware-605827/page23.html?posted=1#post3447803 [00:12] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] Shuren (n=Devilman@host119-235-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:13] rworkman: heh [00:16] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [00:16] rworkman, his list kind of fell apart after mysql. [00:17] yeah :) [00:17] Seems like it feel apart well before that. [00:18] Maybe, but being oblivious to the inclusion of mysql seems like a hard thing to pull off. [00:20] I'd say it fell apart at #4 [00:20] If not earlier. [00:20] Now I gotta track down dependencies for mythplugins. [00:21] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc3-asht4-0-0-cust589.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left ##slackware ("I've got a shed and im going to tinker in it"). [00:22] rworkman: zomg [00:24] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:25] so sick of the gnome's ftp servers when trying to download slackbuilds i want =/ [00:26] hey I deleted my trash how do I get it back in kde? [00:27] my trash icon [00:27] sorry [00:27] I trashed my trash [00:28] should I ask in #KDE [00:28] That would be one good idea. [00:28] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [00:29] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [00:29] just try deleting a file and see where it goes [00:29] http://slackware-current.net/package.php?id=266 Interesting site. [00:29] ewl (n=ewl@pool-151-203-80-223.bos.east.verizon.net) left irc: "[BX] Yo quiero BitchX" [00:30] googling [00:31] type "system://trash" in the konqeror addy bar [00:33] how do I get it back on the desktop? [00:34] yeah that wish list thread is interesting. shame some people say their 'wishes' and get their peepee wacked for just wishing ,but such is the interwebs [00:35] peepee? [00:35] pirving, i have no idea [00:37] What KDE version? [00:37] i had to create trash.desktop [00:38] right click -> create link to location -> url=trash:/ [00:38] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:40] no lq is down again, wth. why cant we have a diff site for slack forum, ugh [00:40] s/no lq/now lq [00:40] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:40] it is so darn bloated [00:41] until someone finds the effort, we will be stuck with lq [00:41] Old_Fogie, huh? seems fine here [00:41] hehe, i dont mind setting one up. the real qeustions though is whether people will use it :) [00:42] but I know it does go down frequently [00:42] dive, I've had the issue with their site for years. I dont know if it's some routing thing to me or what. but after a few click here and there, regardless of OS, and pc, it'll just stop. [00:42] sorry, im typing from my g1 phone, so excuse my typos tonight [00:42] typos not excused [00:42] Old_Fogie, yeah I get that too [00:42] you should buy a keyboard [00:42] edman007: hehe [00:43] Nick change: slackmag1c -> slackmagic [00:43] lw0x15_ (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:44] I would be happy to help manage a real Slackware forum. [00:44] Action: Motoko-chan has suggested such a few times. [00:44] I would too but it's finding someone to host it [00:44] I don't think I have the bandwidth to do it once it gets popular. [00:44] Can it be put on the same slackware.com server(s)? [00:44] Well, as software wish lists, mine are simple : usb cdrom/dvd rom drive support in the install cd or usb-install kernel. htop, iftop, md5deep, aide, mp3blaster. So no extra depends, all can be built in under 5 min even on my old antiques. [00:44] nope I don't have the cash ;P [00:45] Old_Fogie: I find that mp3blaster skips while playing every few seconds. Has this happened to you? [00:45] Motoko-chan: slackware.com is already being bombarded as is as far as i know [00:45] god forbid we ever get a graphic installer be default... [00:45] Oh, and krusader , only needs kde. could go in extra like ktorrent. [00:45] s/be/by [00:46] clijunkie, I did have that on one pc, the oggs were very highly encoded , and it was a slow pc. so I modified the buffer and all was well. [00:46] Yeah... [00:46] it forks into screen very nicely. [00:46] Maybe the ISC can donate something if asked? [00:46] Old_Fogie: I'll have to look into that. Thank you. [00:46] yw [00:46] Or even ibiblio? [00:47] pirvings (n=talkingt@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:47] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) left irc: "Leaving" [00:47] hey lookie here, I am running mirc on wine [00:47] pirvings, nice way to get virii in your wine :) [00:47] pirvings, good for you. [00:47] pirvings, why not run kvirc, it's a mirc clone [00:47] You can use a crappy IRC client now. [00:48] Action: Motoko-chan wouldn't call KVirc a mIRC clone... [00:48] Considering it doesn't look anything like the other. [00:48] you should be running irssi on cygwin/windows [00:48] Just run the classic irc][ ! [00:49] how can I get a version on a user? [00:49] on irssi [00:49] /version ? [00:49] no [00:49] that doesn't work [00:49] /ctcp username version [00:49] but we'll stab you if you do ;) [00:49] 05:49 hyperion-1.0.2b(382). kubrick.freenode.net iM dncrTS/v4 [00:49] Motoko-chan, I would, it's a complete copycat in my book. not that that's bad. [00:50] aha [00:50] ewl (n=ewl@pool-151-203-80-223.bos.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:50] morning BP{k} [00:51] dive: moirn. [00:51] ewl (n=ewl@pool-151-203-80-223.bos.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:51] pirvings (n=talkingt@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [00:51] wotcha BP{k} (: [00:51] all nighter? [00:51] Old_Fogie: pm? [00:51] sure [00:51] 'wotcha' is a greeting I haven't heard since I was a kid - had forgotten about it :-) [00:51] lw0x15_: insomnia is a frigging bitch. and wotcha :) [00:52] hehe [00:52] ewl (n=ewl@pool-151-203-80-223.bos.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:52] Action: dive has a luverly hangover [00:52] just woke up with it :s [00:52] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:53] Old_Fogie, KVirc had tree view before mIRC knew what it was. [00:53] pirving: /ver username or /ctcp username version [00:53] oh someone beat me to it. [00:53] Action: BP{k} personally would have told pirving to go and read a irc primer ;) [00:54] Action: eviljames is on rare occasions more helpful than that ;) [00:54] or just go :O [00:55] /alias version /version $1; /ctcp $1 version :-) [00:55] hmm not enough parameters given [00:55] lol [00:56] Motoko-chan, I dont know, I can recall buying/using mirc over ten years ago, I thought it had it. been a while. but either way, they both mimic each other hows that :) [00:56] I think making /version an alias of itself is not good idea [00:57] Old_Fogie, BASH mimics CP/M! [00:57] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:57] OMG! [00:57] ya, tree view for mirc if fairly recent [00:57] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:57] its about the only client ive used for the last 14yr [00:57] Motoko-chan, considering I have mirc older than 10 years old file date, and kvirc was 01' I can't see the point of you going on here [00:58] ewl (n=ewl@pool-151-203-80-223.bos.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [00:58] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [00:58] I'm just saying that it's not really a copy of mIRC. [00:58] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:58] It does its own things. [00:58] Has its own look. [00:59] whatever you want to call their source of inspiration you do that. [00:59] I'm really not in the mood for wood games [00:59] I just wish people with kvirc would change their quit message - takes 2 lines of text up here [01:00] and they probably aren't even aware of it [01:00] i dont even know what my quit message says [01:01] Could be worse and be come-on pitches like HydraIRC. [01:01] Action: Motoko-chan used to use it. [01:02] clijunkie (i=pberry@67.223.226.64) left ##slackware. [01:03] lw0x15_, well quit and fine out [01:07] wakeup (n=wakeup@koln-5d815802.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [01:07] good morning [01:08] good morning and good night [01:08] is it bad to copy files to a raid1 array while one of the two disks is resyncing? [01:08] you can do it...its just going to make things take longer [01:08] question: why don't SBo slackbuilds rm -r the build and source dirs in /tmp when they've done? [01:09] edman007: cannot be bothered npw [01:09] now*. [01:09] lw0x15_, lame [01:09] dive: most should, if they are well behaved I think [01:09] okay thanks [01:09] lol [01:09] dive, that would suck... [01:09] Nick change: lw0x15_ -> lw0x15 [01:09] Anyone here using gtkpod from slackbuilds.org? [01:09] c ya all gotta go to school :D [01:09] wakeup (n=wakeup@koln-5d815802.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: Client Quit [01:09] Action: edman007 -> bed [01:09] Action: lw0x15 is on holiday [01:10] Action: clyphox is drunk [01:10] edman007, why would is? [01:10] ill be drunk in..approx 10 hours lol [01:10] s/is/it/ [01:10] dive, because when it breaks or i need to look at the configure script it need it... [01:11] and i got /tmp/SBo symlinked to tmpfs, so it gets freed up every reboot [01:11] Does sbopkg create a persistent build log for each package? [01:11] now i must go [01:11] lw0x15, start now [01:11] i'll be awake in 10 hours [01:11] edman007, yeah but if there is an error it will stop and not continue to rm -r line, and how many times have you had to look at configure ot whatever? [01:11] ok [01:13] dive, I'd say SBo doesn't do it, because Slackware itself doesn't do it. The advantage for leaving it in /tmp is so when you dev a new version, you'll have some breaks, maybe want to play/add/edit the doinst.sh and such is probably why Mr. V does it. Only thing I can think of. [01:13] edman007: its 6am [01:13] hmm [01:13] dive, when I try a version greater than an SBo I don't rm it. but in my dev box distcc farm, yeah, it get's rm'd [01:14] but those are known versions. [01:14] dive, you could of course run ./appname.SlackBuild && rm /tmp/SBo/ -r(you know what goes here:) [01:14] yeah true [01:14] heh skipped the 'f' aren't I tricky :) [01:15] there is a danger leaving stuff around a long time tho. [01:15] if one package is bad, and links to the stuff in /tmp/SBo you got problems :) [01:15] just takes up extra space and if I need to look at the source I will untar it manually anyway [01:16] meaning the dev of the software picks up the /tmp location. I had that happen a few times. but it's rare [01:16] dive, well you could add the stuff that slacky.eu adds to the bottom of theirs to cleanup [01:16] well I just put 'rm -r $PKG' etc on mine [01:16] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [01:16] at the end [01:17] if the script breaks it shouldn't get that far [01:17] so I can still look at stuff [01:17] ewl (n=ewl@pool-151-203-80-223.bos.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:18] oh well, horses for courses I think [01:21] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [01:21] horses for courses? [01:21] antler, means like down to individual tastes etc [01:22] ah ok [01:22] some horses like certain courses [01:22] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:22] sidmario_ (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:22] i thought: horse (meat) for (main) course [01:22] theoffset (n=ismael@201-130-230-208-cable.cybercable.net.mx) left irc: "Leaving" [01:23] one man's meat is another man's poison :-) [01:23] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:23] ewl (n=ewl@pool-151-203-80-223.bos.east.verizon.net) left irc: "BitchX: for distribution only with a new PC" [01:24] that's the truth [01:24] yup, and you can tune a piano, but you can't tune a fish (sounds better when spoken :) [01:25] you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink [01:25] Old_Fogie, depends on what you mean by 'tune' [01:25] and 'fish' [01:25] and 'can\'t' [01:25] dive, well, really... you can lead a horse to water, but a pencil must be led :) [01:25] ^^ [01:25] lead [01:25] err.. you get the drift :) [01:26] yes [01:26] haha [01:26] one man's anedote is another man's poison [01:26] hiptobecubic, yea hahah, what is "is" :) [01:26] Old_Fogie: That's what the ocean said to the raft. [01:26] "it was the best of times, and the worst of times"? [01:26] jkwood, hahah good one, I'm writing that one down. [01:26] Old_Fogie, a tough question indeed. [01:27] i like listening to cliches ;) [01:27] hiptobecubic, and a good one too, got Slick Willy out of being booted from office [01:28] like a champ [01:29] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:30] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [01:30] anyone know what movie this is from? http://zip.4chan.org/k/src/1234929473287.png [01:31] Action: Old_Fogie mumbles from under his tin foil hat and X-ray glasses, "I ain't going there man" :) [01:31] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [01:31] slow server is slow [01:31] hehe i like that guy. good actor. [01:31] nullboy, i'm pretty sure that was Land Before Time LVCXXI [01:31] imdb benicio del toro [01:32] not sure about the chick though, some no-name [01:32] The Usual Suspects? [01:33] heh no [01:33] samychow (n=chow@24.238.42.70.res-cmts.tv13.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [01:34] Action: jkwood has no idea [01:34] it looks a bit like that french actor from 'A Boule de Soufle' or however that's spelled [01:34] its benicio del toro [01:34] souflé [01:34] Action: jkwood goes /away [01:35] Don't change your nick to include that [01:35] bam! kick/ban! [01:36] hes the guy that nailed Scarlett Johansson in the elevator after the Oscars a year ago [01:36] he what? [01:36] are you serious [01:36] you can't be serious. [01:36] ya [01:36] Action: hiptobecubic bows in submission [01:36] google him and scarlett, you'll see [01:38] wow [01:41] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [01:42] pattwo (n=admin@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [01:44] oh hi [01:44] morning [01:49] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:49] good morning [01:49] morning [01:50] ugh [01:50] how do i make firefox the default handler for urls? [01:50] in kde - fire up control centre [01:51] many apps need to be set in options though [01:52] I think xfce settings manager has a similar feature [01:53] firebird619 (n=jeremy@173-17-137-255.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [01:53] QWonder, also look at ~/.local/share/applications/{defaults.list,mimeapps.list} <--heh, did I do the brackets right :) [01:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RfihcLJLeo&eurl=http://github.com/learnix/slamd64builds/tree/master It's a sudo rm -rf / video. Kind of funny. [01:54] QWonder, howdy [01:54] QWonder, also any ~/.mailcap too [01:54] we can thank the freedesktop.org people for the screwy spec for that [01:55] oh [01:55] i'm looking through the file associations in control panel [01:55] what app uses winamp skins? [01:55] I can think of 9 places that affect a user's "open with", it's just nuts. KDE is good tho at blocking the system madness from overtaking you. [01:55] QWonder, i think xmms will [01:56] or audacious [01:56] hiptobecubic, yup, as long as they're older skins, like 3 years ago or so [01:57] i hate it when i get these kinda phone calls "when i log onto mycomputer it says i'm already logged on, what does that mean!?!?" [01:57] doh [01:58] sounds like everything's working just fine to me [01:58] unless they got hacked and everything is hopeless [01:58] it means they are trying to log into AIM twice...damn lusers [01:58] one thing i've learned: windows users can't be helped [01:59] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:01] hiptobecubic: i have these servers hooked up, the distcc docs say something about using ssh although they aren't very specific.. i can't get it to work at all [02:02] QWonder, what is the setup you're trying to get working? they are all on a local lan? [02:02] yeah [02:02] why ssh then? [02:02] oh no, i was just suggesting that as an alternative to openvpn, which i can't seem to get working [02:02] i'm not trying to use ssh now [02:02] QWonder, ah lol. [02:03] i don't understand why openvpn wouldn't be working. I use it daily [02:03] it just says blocked [02:03] QWonder, here is distcc symlink masquerading that I made to follow the tutorial in the top of the script. http://pastebin.com/d3c2505d8 [02:03] i compiled qt4 today [02:03] QWonder, so you have a tutorial, and an updated script that reflects the tutorial. gl hf don't bitch, it works for me :) [02:03] and then decided i needed it [02:03] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:04] QWonder, is distccd running on the servers? [02:04] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [02:05] yeah [02:05] can you ssh to the server? [02:05] i had it started with distccd --daemon --user nobody --allow 192.168.56.240 [02:05] yeah [02:05] and nmap -T5 -p 3632 localhost is closed? [02:06] no [02:06] checked that [02:06] but it's closed if you try it from a different box? [02:06] Action: Old_Fogie points QWonder again to his pastebin, there's a tutorial for it :) [02:07] it's open from my laptop too but the monitor just says "blocked" [02:07] QWonder, right becuase you're using inetd [02:07] How do I download an entire web directory through wget? Example: http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-current/ [02:07] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [02:07] or a firewall [02:07] most likely host.deny and inetd [02:07] samychow, it's in the man page for sure [02:08] oh, i reloaded those servers though because i couldn't login to them [02:08] heh [02:08] :x didn't look [02:08] samychow, also you might prefer rsync for this anyway [02:08] so anything you configured is gone [02:08] QWonder, what? [02:08] oh [02:08] i see what you're saying [02:08] I dont [02:09] He put a fresh slack install on them [02:09] hiptobecubic, i've been trying to set up pxe server for days i am in no mood to get off track ! [02:09] :o [02:09] so any configs from before are gone [02:09] days? [02:09] yeah [02:09] well total work time is hours i guess [02:09] QWonder, so does distcc work locally then? [02:09] samychow: There is a mirror script for current. You can find it at alien bob's slackware site. [02:10] samychow: Just google slackware alien [02:10] i wasn't sure what i needed to configure, just gave them ips, downloaded and compiled distcc 3.1 and put a startup command in /etc/rc.d/rc.local [02:10] QWonder, why did you build a new distcc? [02:10] agentc0re, already had him book marked. thanks for the tipp on the mirror script tho! [02:10] slack's works fine [02:10] rsync --stats -aPvi --delete-after rsync.osuosl.org::slackware/slackware-current/ /slackware-current [02:10] QWonder, the new distcc has some new features and breaks some old ones, if i read correctly about it [02:11] QWonder, in rc.local? why not just run it from inetd then if you want it started up with the box. distcc honors tcp wrappers, that's where your security is really going to come from. an optimized tcp wrapper. [02:11] QWonder, i'd use slackpkg and reinstall the old one [02:11] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:11] on their website they say pump mode makes it much faster in 3 [02:11] Old_Fogie, because that limits distccd's ability to managed it's jobs [02:11] i have 3.1 on all three machines [02:12] Old_Fogie: because i don't know what i'm doing [02:12] maybe i should do that [02:12] hiptobecubic, I've never seen that happen, dont doubt you but never seen it [02:12] QWonder, 3.1 ... these are not Slackware boxes? [02:12] you can't mix distro's [02:12] Old_Fogie, i read it somewhere when i was trying to set it up myself [02:12] hiptobecubic, dunno, I've been doing it for over a year. seems fine here. [02:13] they're all slackware 12.1 [02:13] with distcc 3.1 [02:13] well, why would you just randomly upgrade to distcc that came out not even few weeks ago. [02:13] you can install whatever distcc you want, no? although i'd probably use the one that we know works [02:13] well, point is moot , he did it [02:13] hiptobecubic, not if you read that changelog. [02:13] changes to m4 and such [02:13] what's m4? [02:14] i should have just left it on there [02:14] one box will talk one way, the others another way [02:14] 2.whatever [02:14] ah [02:14] QWonder, well use slackpkg and go back [02:14] m4 is processor, and it's way it works now is changed for autoconf or is it autogen I forget [02:14] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:14] ah [02:14] oh wait [02:14] m4 is used for things like configging sendmail, for example [02:14] maybe it's a firewall in one of these client bridges i forgot to turn off [02:15] agentc0re, downloading now... talk to you guys on my next problem. [02:15] QWonder, be that the case or not, you should probably go back to a version that's tested and known not to be buggy [02:15] QWonder, if you read that tutorial for Slackware, things will make sense. [02:15] unless you need pump mode desperately [02:16] distcc and ccache, man I luv it. [02:16] Hmm. [02:16] Old_Fogie, i still haven't set that up properly :D although i haven't needed it yet so i'm not motivated [02:17] hiptobecubic, check out my pastebin there, if you got questions hit me up. I can do it blind folded now. [02:17] I can't get faad2 to make libmp4ff.la like I want. [02:17] tntslack (n=will@adsl54-246.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:17] QWonder, by the way, you did start distcc on the other boxes right? [02:18] yes [02:18] either tcp wrappers, or a simple # distccd --daemon --allow 192.168.100.xyz [02:18] a port scan locally and remotely shows it's open [02:19] i must just have something configured incorrectly here [02:19] did you try verbose? [02:19] and the logging on each? [02:19] distccd --help [02:20] QWonder, how do you know it's configured incorrectly? [02:20] QWonder, also look in /var/log/syslog too, you'll see some errors there. [02:20] also, do you have 3.1 on the client AND server? [02:20] slackytude (i=10029@p4FD89BED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:21] i've never set it up before, i'm figuring i have it configured incorrectly on machine i'm building from [02:21] yes, it's 3.1 on all the machines [02:22] Old_Fogie, you have pastebinned method for distcc? Link? [02:22] you have a hosts file? or DISTCC_HOSTS set? [02:22] no errors in /var/log/syslog [02:22] what is happening? [02:22] how do you know it isn't working [02:22] i have DISTCC_HOSTS set [02:23] i' [02:23] dive, http://pastebin.com/d3c2505d8 [02:23] thanks [02:23] yw [02:23] i'm sure that should work, but for some reason i ended up using the /etc/distcc/hosts file instead [02:23] does distccmon show you anything? [02:24] a simple ps ax |grep dist should show it running or not too [02:24] verbose option is nice try it :) [02:25] i took localhost out of the variable and it's still only compiling on localhost, maybe it's not using distcc_hosts [02:25] QWonder, try putting the hosts in /etc/distcc/hosts (i think that's it) [02:25] i ran distccd on the servers with --verbose and it didn't give any errors, just told me it was dropping root [02:25] no it's using your hosts you set before, you need to resource it [02:25] unset DISTCC_HOSTS [02:25] then resource whichever file you use [02:26] to verify... just # echo $DISTCC_HOSTS [02:26] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [02:26] you should see it report who the hosts are [02:26] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-162.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [02:26] morning [02:27] which is _why_ I said to use that tutorial. his method does not modify your user or roots bash login profile, you set it on the fly. much more convenient. [02:27] the /etc/distcc/hosts file is just a static config that distcc reads when you run it. it's not related to your environment variables or bash profile [02:28] he has four scripts, one for example is "distcc with ccache" ; another is "distcc only no ccache" ; another is 'ccache only' and so on and so forth. you just "source ~/.distcc/dc+" for distcc and ccache and voila' it's done. [02:28] how many of you out there work with computers? [02:29] Old_Fogie, it's a good system, i agree entirely [02:29] pirving: i do [02:30] I'm just saying that for your distcc host list, it seemed easy to just use /etc/distcc/hosts. Then you can put them in and comment them in and out as you please, etc. [02:30] pirving, me [02:30] Id rather be a pirate, tho [02:30] pirving, you mean, do work involving computers? or administer systems? [02:30] hiptobecubic, my point is, that when you login, you accept the global defaults, which slackware has none. and then , you the user must su to edit that file accordingly, which is a pita and long method, than a quick $source ~/.distcc/dc+ for example. [02:31] both [02:31] I used to work with computers and I pulled all my hair out [02:31] windows [02:32] if I could get a job as a linux administrator I would be lucky [02:32] arny (n=arny@79.119.156.173) joined ##slackware. [02:32] pirving: what do you mean? [02:33] what do you mean what do you mean [02:33] Old_Fogie, sure, i'm saying that that's a good approach. But using that host file is just a config for distcc, not related to how to set it up for quick on/off functionality. [02:33] QWonder, work yet? [02:33] no [02:33] pirving: guess i wont talk anymore sorry [02:34] QWonder, what does distccmon say? [02:34] can't connect? [02:34] hologram: why? [02:34] hologram: you fail at guilt trips [02:34] welp, night night all. [02:34] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [02:34] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.67.229) joined ##slackware. [02:34] nullbog: my girlfriend is pro at them :P [02:35] I'm wondering if it might just be easier to scp stuff over to another machine running 12.2 and building there than using distcc.. [02:35] s/nullbog/nullboy/ even [02:36] heh, nullbog [02:36] almost as good as "dullboy" :) [02:36] distccmon says localhost and then blocked for the rest of them [02:36] but nothing listed [02:37] Action: pirving is listening to go your own way by fleetwood mac in his own head [02:37] hologram (n=hologram@ip68-228-57-91.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:37] hmm [02:37] pirving, frightening :-) [02:37] QWonder, then you didn't set your --allow flag correctly [02:38] if it were a firewall issue it would just hang on 'connecting' [02:38] what is the command that you use to start distccd [02:38] so, does anyone want to hire me as a linux administrator I'm A+ certified. wait, I need like 1,000 more certs [02:38] and what is the ip of the computer that you are compiling from [02:38] pirving, linux+? [02:38] is this right? "make -j8 CC=distcc" [02:39] QWonder, yes? [02:39] for distccd [02:39] can I get free information on linux + [02:39] i'm using "distccd --daemon --user nobody --allow 192.168.56.240" [02:39] I have a test center right down the road [02:39] free study guide? [02:39] QWonder, distccd is the daemon. it only runs on the host and waits for you to run distcc (without the ending 'd') on the client and send it a job [02:39] I'll look on pirate bay [02:39] pirving, you might find some books on amazon [02:39] yeah [02:39] probably better off with a decent book [02:40] i'm starting distccd on the servers [02:40] what is the local ip of the computer you're on? which i assume is the one you're compiling from? [02:40] it stays running and doesn't give me any errors [02:40] than downloading stuff from pb [02:40] 192.168.56.240 [02:41] And it still says blocked? [02:41] yeah [02:41] when i run distcc --show-hosts it lists them [02:41] so i have no idea what the issue would be [02:42] i tried using ips [02:42] then i tried hostnames [02:42] neither work [02:42] hm is anyone here good with raid setups? what would be the best setup for 10 harddisks? [02:43] Im thinking raid5.. [02:43] and you killed and restarted distccd with --allow and the correct ip? [02:44] but distccmon doesn't list the hosts next to where it says blocked, like this: http://pastebin.com/m2a722f36 [02:44] distccd just needs to have --allow [the ip address of the machine i'm compiled from], right? [02:44] *compiling [02:45] yeah i think so [02:45] i'm pretty sure that's all i do [02:47] does slack cache a copy of package files or do i need to get it from the cd? [02:48] package cache? [02:48] arny (n=arny@79.119.156.173) left irc: "Leaving" [02:48] not as such. but /var/log/pa [02:49] /var/log/packages/ has the packages and the file location, so you could take the files and pack them again+ [02:49] metadata.cpp: In member function 'void Metadata::dumpToDatabase()': [02:49] metadata.cpp:166: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault [02:49] Lovely! [02:49] QWonder, slackpkg? get it from the internet [02:49] ccfreak2k, internal compiler error? sounds like fun [02:50] QWonder, slackpkg is in /slackware/ap which you can find on the cd or on any of the online mirrors [02:50] blackorca (n=blackorc@173-103-172-248.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [02:51] if you already have slackpkg, then just tell it to upgrade distcc [02:51] and it will change it to the default for 12.1 [02:52] (assuming it's set to use a 12.1 mirror in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors) [02:52] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:52] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:52] yeah distcc is sensitive to versions, best to have all machines with the same version/package [02:52] amazon10x (i=amazon10@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-f6d14fb2de8a8694) joined ##slackware. [02:53] tntslack (n=will@adsl54-246.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:56] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [02:57] it's working now [02:57] what did you do? [02:58] removed the new one [02:58] and installed the slackware package [02:58] ah, right [02:58] well [02:59] wait [02:59] no [02:59] i just didn't have this gui monitor before, it's still blocking it [02:59] oh [02:59] and it says 'blocking'? [03:00] yeah, but it didn't say blocking on every single one [03:00] and it had the other hosts listed [03:00] but the monitor on the other machines is just empty [03:00] the monitor only shows what distcc is doing [03:00] not distccd [03:00] oh [03:02] i can't tell [03:03] it just says connecting, then the status is blank, there is nothing listed under file, and the graph is red [03:03] it must not be working [03:03] it's not [03:03] but that's not the same as blocking it [03:03] i dno' tihnk [03:04] try making the allow broader [03:04] just to make sure that's not the issue [03:04] not that it shoudl be [03:04] does 192.168.56.0/24 as the allow? [03:04] sure why not [03:04] or farther if you want [03:04] 192.168.0.0/16 [03:05] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [03:06] or 0.0.0.0/0 [03:06] although i wouldn't leave it there unless you want chinese hackers compiling things on your machines [03:06] still the same thing [03:06] lol [03:06] i used 192.168.0.0/16 [03:06] it says blocked on some of them [03:06] others it just goes blank [03:06] hm [03:07] i did this "distccd --daemon --user nobody --allow 192.168.0.0/16" [03:07] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:07] sure [03:07] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:08] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [03:08] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [03:09] ktabic (n=ktabic@81.135.190.41) joined ##slackware. [03:12] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:15] What, distcc doesn't use public key crypto for authentication? [03:17] i'm pretty sure it can use ssh [03:17] ccfreak2k, it's for trusted networks only it says [03:17] IrquiM (n=irquim@171.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:17] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:18] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:20] http://csgsa.cs.clemson.edu/seminar/tools06/docbook/html/ch11s04.html [03:21] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [03:23] awsome, I can use it on my linode. [03:26] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [03:26] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-175-85.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:27] I have a samba mount on another box - copy slackbuilds/source there, ssh in and compile, copy packages into dev dir [03:27] seems a lot easier [03:28] judging by all these problems [03:29] twolf_ (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [03:30] just have to make sure that libs on both boxes are same versions etc [03:34] where can i find information about the 3 kernels offered with the slackware install? [03:35] samychow, what sort of info? [03:35] well, I am trying to decide which one to use. [03:35] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:37] I'm not sure if the .configs are on the disk - never looked to be honest but that would where the useful info is [03:37] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [03:38] you could install all of them and edit lilo.conf appropriately [03:38] see which one works best [03:40] Ive found setting up distcc pretty easy when I did it with slack [03:42] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-177-112.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:43] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-177-112.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [03:44] blackorca (n=blackorc@173-103-172-248.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:49] nikolaz (n=mespejel@ip72-220-26-121.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:50] e [03:50] plase [03:53] slackytude: I just set it up on two of three systems in my rack, and my laptop. I wanted to do that awhile ago, but forgot all about it. [03:53] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@89-96-108-186.ip12.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [03:53] place [03:53] pleace [03:53] opengeu slckware plebem [03:54] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:54] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Client Quit [03:54] chopp, gotta love it [03:54] nikolaz, ? [03:54] slackytude: have you tried it over ssh? [03:55] yet [03:55] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [03:55] opengeu [03:55] nikolaz: english please. [03:55] kelo [03:55] pleace [03:55] please [03:55] k [03:56] .deb. repos [03:56] windaw manager [03:56] e [03:56] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:56] aveha ouya ostla ourya indma [03:57] ne ne ne ne ne ne ne [03:57] lol [03:57] nikolaz: this is ##slackware, not #debian [03:57] slacks windaw manager me [03:57] wi e17 [03:57] experimental [03:58] yet yet yet [03:58] mixu [03:58] me [03:58] slack + .deb [03:58] k? [03:58] kkkk [03:58] try k [03:58] sure ok thxbai [03:58] k you try [03:58] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:59] nikolaz (n=mespejel@ip72-220-26-121.sd.sd.cox.net) left ##slackware. [03:59] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [03:59] I don't believe your lameness, your tryin to mess with us I'm thinkin. [04:00] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:01] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [04:01] xkaliber (n=dexter@gateway.geodesic.com) left irc: "Leaving" [04:02] hmm, windows 7 is slow to start its installation but it has a nice bootscreen animation :p [04:03] haha. windows 7. [04:03] I took a look at the installation help, it reads [04:03] "to update **to** windows vista" ;p [04:04] lol, it reads windows vista nearly everywhere ^^ [04:05] doesn't surprise me in the least. [04:06] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [04:06] chopp, nope [04:07] Camarade_Tux, yeah, not suprising [04:07] I kinda liked the beta tho [04:07] slackytude: ok, I'll be checking it out with my linode another day. [04:08] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:09] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [04:09] "You can recover from Microsoft and its suppliers only direct damages up to U.S. 5.00$" <-- that pays for the stamp [04:10] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "life in the rear view mirror" [04:11] gah: it creates an additional 200MB partition, for boot I guess [04:11] that'll make me 11 partition on my disk =/ [04:16] reaver___ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:20] you need at least 12. no one has 11 partitions. [04:20] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: "Reconnecting" [04:21] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [04:22] as long as it's not 13 >< [04:22] keanne (n=riken@125.5.136.115) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:23] there's only one number of partitions: 42 [04:23] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Connection timed out [04:24] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:24] that would make less than 4GB per partition :p [04:24] how many of you are smokers [04:24] bud smokers? :P [04:24] Action: pirving is smoking a Marboro 100 [04:24] smoking is evil -_- [04:25] Camarade_Tux: not if its weed [04:25] Action: Camarade_Tux doesn't like that either [04:25] to each his own [04:26] why do non-smokers hate smokers? [04:26] because we give them cancer [04:26] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/university-of-the-bleedin-obvious-1623807.html [04:26] UBO [04:27] alice_c (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:27] amazon10x (i=amazon10@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-f6d14fb2de8a8694) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:27] well what are you suppose to do when you have sources downloading and tars extracting? [04:27] xSorry but we haven't been able to serve the page you requested - please try again [04:28] anyone done lfs? [04:28] because we don't like the smoke, and actually most smokers don't like other smokers' smoke when themselves are not smoking [04:28] (how to say 'smok*' four times in a sentence) [04:28] smoke and a pancake [04:28] bong and a blintz [04:28] samychow, depends on the package, is there a 'configure' file ? [04:29] I can't believe it : win7 uses more memory than firefox ! [04:29] :D [04:29] no! [04:30] n0on3 (n=n0on3@81-208-83-247.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [04:30] well, I guess most of the used memory is actually cache [04:30] Camarade_Tux, just wait until FF7 comes out :-) [04:31] am.. [04:31] "setup is checking for video setup performance" <- always funny when setup is running inside a virtual machine [04:31] i have a question [04:31] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [04:31] dive, ff4 should perform well enough :D [04:31] is it possible to plug two or more monitors/video cards on one computer [04:31] Camarade_Tux, that's cheating [04:31] e01, yes [04:31] and with same much keyboards and mouses [04:31] yes [04:32] :) dive ... i am not finished [04:32] :P [04:32] just i want [04:32] hmmm, my friend setup is asking for a computer name [04:32] provide my computer for two workplaces [04:32] DarkStar [04:32] dive, nice one ! :p [04:33] for example, i am logind from kb1 and monitor1 with my user [04:34] and loging from kbd2 and monitor2 with another user and both of them, can using kde or some DE [04:34] e01, not really possible to do that [04:34] afaik [04:34] e01: yes, that's possible, called multi-set [04:34] it' s not trivial though [04:34] ah [04:35] chattr, what i am need to do? [04:35] start e.g. here: http://linuxgazette.net/124/smith.html [04:36] good luck :) [04:36] sounds complex [04:36] s/multi-set/multi-seat/ [04:36] and look easy, on first view :) [04:36] will try and way my result :) [04:38] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [04:38] samychow (n=chow@24.238.42.70.res-cmts.tv13.ptd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:38] slKIvs (n=slKIvs@190.148.53.169) joined ##slackware. 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[04:57] Zordrak, ssh just hung when I tried that command [04:57] gave up waiting for a prompt [04:57] jesus that was a biig netsplit [04:57] oh peoples [04:57] Zordrak, in which case I don't think expect would help much either [04:57] dadexter_laptop: so wtf :( [04:57] QWonder (n=QW@c-71-203-15-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:58] it runs it in the background... i dont see the problem [04:58] i tried it with a & on the end too [04:58] Stx (i=stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [04:58] apparently this cereal melts a bit and sticks together in one big block when left for 2 weeks in hot weather [04:58] at least until you punch the side of the box [04:58] Nick change: Stx -> Guest31620 [04:59] enjoy the silence... [04:59] ^^^ nevermind, typo... [05:01] ummm [05:01] skibur (i=1000@12.197.207.65) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [05:02] cipher (n=cipher@41.252.38.138) joined ##slackware. [05:04] win7 took at *most* 4.8GB during install, and this includes swap, pretty nice actually [05:04] Camarade_Tux, how much swap? [05:04] 1.6GB [05:04] but it's probably 1.5 * ram [05:04] yeah ummm which version of win7? [05:05] ultimate [05:05] what buil [05:05] d [05:05] the 7000 one (I don't have anything pirated on my system ;p ) [05:06] so um, how does that compare to TinyXP which is a 500mb install and does everything that windows 7 ultimate does? [05:07] clyphox (n=human@82-35-197-109.cable.ubr01.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:07] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:08] TinyXP is not very good actually, I don't agree with several things [05:08] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-196502.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:08] I'm making my own crafted XP versions which are much more stable and compatible and they need 600 or 800MB [05:09] yeah well my point stands [05:09] apart from that, it's not really comparable, you'd need a slimmed down win7 too [05:09] until then you should compare to regular XP which is at least 1.5GB (probably at least 2GB) [05:09] so it fares pretty well methinks [05:10] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [05:11] How do you merge large files that were split with the split command? [05:12] wow a windows virus in my xp vm. nice. [05:12] seems to be causing windows explorer to keep crashing [05:12] kleanchap: cat file1 file2 [...] > file [05:12] kleanchap, cat file1 file2 file3 > file [05:12] chattr, :'( [05:13] Thnx! [05:13] Action: chattr pats Camarade_Tux on the back [05:14] hey guys, you are back! [05:14] group hug [05:14] GTFO! [05:14] slackytude: haha :) [05:14] Action: Zordrak wipes himself down [05:16] yeah, let's group-hug, at least /me, slackytude and chattr :p [05:17] ^-^ [05:18] (well chattr probably quite didn't expect it but I'm sure we can count on him ;p ) [05:19] Action: slackytude group hugs Camarade_Tux , chattr and rk4n3 [05:19] oy [05:19] bug in ircd [05:19] thats bad [05:20] Zordrak, http://pastebin.ca/1340927 [05:20] ^ works [05:21] dive: ta.. [05:21] but already solved [05:21] yw [05:21] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.26.101) joined ##slackware. [05:21] ah [05:21] its not great but it works [05:22] just gotta pipe *all* output to null [05:22] tho it means cron wont mail output to me [05:22] but i gotta get cron mailing first :) [05:24] Action: chattr was caught in surprise by the group-hug, liked it, now continues hugging trees [05:24] slKIvs (n=slKIvs@190.148.53.169) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:24] b-trees [05:25] alice_c (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:26] Action: chopp tells the huggers to get a room, and summons spook and his eel cannon. [05:36] cipher (n=cipher@41.252.38.138) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:39] lol, supcomm ai, sending AA + mobile shields against... ground units [05:41] bono (i=bono@220-136-224-252.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:48] chii (i=chii@freenode/bot/chii) joined ##slackware. [05:48] ktabic (n=ktabic@81.135.190.41) left irc: "I'm a professionally trainined computer scientist. 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[06:21] giuppy (n=giuppy@host31-165-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:22] y0 The-Croupier [06:22] The-Croupier: just this weirdo called The-Croupier who keeps hanging around.. [06:25] tntslack (n=will@adsl54-246.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:28] imarambiocatan_ (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [06:28] The Moon is Waning Crescent (35% of Full) [06:29] ewl (n=ewl@pool-70-19-191-244.bos.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [06:31] xkaliber (n=dexter@gateway.geodesic.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:32] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [06:32] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [06:36] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.26.101) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:37] Zordrak: what a wierdo... [06:37] hiya slackytude [06:38] The-Croupier, wassup? [06:39] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:39] just in the lecture nothing much these days... apart from im re-starting aikido [06:40] aikido? nice [06:40] going to fitness center again [06:42] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:44] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [06:44] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:45] yes man...been away for nearly 2years now..cannot handle doing nothing anymore..(holidays are finished) [06:45] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [06:48] ewl (n=ewl@pool-70-19-191-244.bos.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Read error: 1.414213562 (Excessive square root of 2)" [06:49] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@89-96-108-186.ip12.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [06:50] ewl (n=ewl@pool-70-19-191-244.bos.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:28] mac-, use mouse to select ? .. or the link is so big that you cant select it [07:29] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:29] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-966648142303c642) joined ##slackware. [07:30] E [07:31] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:31] Isn't the point that he probably doesn't have a mouse? [07:32] ccfreak2k, maybe ... [07:32] sQuEE (n=narya@host211.201-253-131.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [07:33] or he does not have X [07:36] alice_c (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:36] ALVAN: You missunderstand me :) i wish to get this address, want to lynx show it to me :)P [07:36] mac-: E [07:37] thx :> [07:38] yw [07:38] mac-, or enable Advance mode [07:38] howq [07:39] mac-, press o in lynx and at USer mode toggle Advance [07:39] mark the option Save Options to disk [07:39] uhm, thx [07:40] then go down at Apply changes [07:40] oh, You know any location where can I found information how to configure Postfix with Berkeley DB ? [07:40] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [07:41] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:41] cuba (n=cuba@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) joined ##slackware. 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[07:51] slackboy should auto kickban based on a regex involving phrases such as "best distro" and "which distro" [07:52] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-966648142303c642) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:52] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:52] tribeca (n=vedo@host162-103-static.20-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:53] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-b34708c080a11874) joined ##slackware. [07:53] wtf!! Im not going to stop using slackware... im hooked on slackware. I just need something for my wifes machine that is video editing oriented out of the box.. Ive always treated everyone here with respect, no matter what question they ask. I always catch hell for something so petty. I will not ask it again [07:55] Zordrak: naw, just autoreply with "slackware" [07:55] i value the opinions of all the people in the slackware channel, thats why i turn to you guyz for answers [07:55] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [07:56] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [07:56] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:56] Zordrak, i like to know "best distro" and to see vs comparations in terms of performance [07:56] vinnie_, please understand that we get trolls here quite often. some question trigger automatic defenses [07:57] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:57] i can understand that for people that just pop in, but ive been sitting in this channel since i installed slackware [07:57] esp when they come from people who were seen alighting a failbus within the previous month [07:58] dtanner (n=dtanner@adsl-99-162-113-210.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [07:59] was I seen alighting a failbus within the previous month? [08:03] best multimedia distro? isn't that Mac OS X? :p [08:03] slackytude: Zordrak has been a great help to me in the past, i just didnt expect that from them [08:03] reaver___ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [08:04] ok, seriously: do you know ubuntu (omygod, now they'll crucify me) studio? [08:04] or dyne:bolic? it's cool, it's developed by a rastafari, so you as a slacker might like it... [08:05] chattr: thanx, ill give dinebolic a look [08:05] as for ubuntu... ive always considered that a kitty distro [08:05] vinnie_: distro is completely irrelevant [08:06] vinnie_: what matters is what applications are installed for use [08:06] vinnie_: if you want someone else to do all the work and give you a perfect out-of-the-box experience, then you dont want slackware and it doesnt want you [08:07] hence my response [08:08] it would be akin to asking in here... which distro has the best out of the box automatic gui wifi management [08:08] Action: vinnie_ bows to the slackware comunity, and asks forgiveness. [08:08] (answer: any that comes with wicd) [08:09] evo- (n=evo@p4FD4D487.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:09] gar0t0_ (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [08:09] raela|alt (n=raela@205.133.81.73) joined ##slackware. [08:10] Action: Zordrak beats chattr with a VAX manual [08:10] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Nick collision from services. [08:10] Nick change: gar0t0_ -> gar0t0 [08:10] Zordrak: thx fo not hitting me with the VAX itself.. [08:11] Action: Zordrak saves the vax for barricading the doors at quarter-to-fail [08:13] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:13] bono (i=bono@220-136-224-252.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:14] amazon10x (i=amazon10@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-8ba5b3d8ea277b68) joined ##slackware. [08:14] ion (n=ion@atomos.nxsh.org) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:17] great [08:17] netgear router died [08:18] buy cisco [08:18] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:18] just kidding. carry on [08:18] The-spiki: why not use embedded Vista while you're at it... [08:22] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl88-138.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[08:43] Xunie: you miss my point [08:43] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:46] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [08:48] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) joined ##slackware. [08:48] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:49] Nick change: foldingstock -> fsc{k} [08:56] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [09:00] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:01] does slackware have xorg/modules/drivers/openchrome ? [09:02] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:02] /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/openchrome_drv.so [09:02] where would i search to see if slackware has xorg/modules/drivers/openchrome ? [09:02] slava_dp: ok, which version of slackware are you running? 12.2? [09:02] Camarade_Tux_ (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-2-199.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:02] gnubien, 12.2 [09:03] slava_dp: ok, thanks alot :) [09:03] gnubien, np :) [09:03] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@186.66.74.67) left irc: "Saliendo" [09:05] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-83-214.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:05] Nick change: Camarade_Tux_ -> Camarade_Tux [09:08] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [09:10] raela|alt (n=raela@205.133.81.73) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:12] TwinReverb (n=robert@211.180.33.110) joined ##slackware. [09:14] anyone know the size of a typical freebsd install ? [09:15] Camarade_Tux: guessing 2 gigs [09:15] that's not much... [09:16] maybe 5-7 gigs for full install [09:17] bono (i=bono@220-136-224-252.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:18] ok, thanks [09:19] Camarade_Tux read the faqs,docs,bugs at freebsd home page or ask in #freebsd and search the freebsd forum and wiki [09:20] I finally found the 'hardware requirement' :) [09:21] ok, at least 150MB :D [09:21] cuba_ (n=cuba@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) joined ##slackware. [09:22] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [09:22] hey, does anybody use the mouse button actions in KDE ? right click on desktop > panel with top 10 apps .... very handy...except the apps are started by really weird way and don't run properly like the would from shell [09:23] konsole, firefox etc. does anybody have an experience how it could be started ? [09:24] Camarade_Tux: I usually set aside at least 10 GB for a fresh install of FreeBSD 7.1. Of course it depends what your using the box for: server, desktop. [09:25] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:25] you're [09:26] that'll give you room to grow with ports [09:27] I had planned something like 15GB but was wondering if I could some GBs [09:27] 15 GB will do it, you can get by with 8-10 depending on what you want to install [09:28] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:28] I'll probably put 15GB rather than crying later ;) [09:29] invitado (n=invitado@189.188.155.240) joined ##slackware. [09:29] good idea [09:29] cuba_ (n=cuba@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) left irc: "Leaving" [09:29] cuba (n=cuba@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) left irc: "Leaving" [09:31] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [09:32] mikearr (n=miker@pool-71-122-94-105.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:32] and now the last part : which are the OSes you'd like to experiment with ? for me there's at least Haiku [09:33] I haven't tried gentoo of arch [09:33] or [09:35] I think linux will alway mean slackware for me ;) [09:35] and apart from linux distributions ? [09:35] Yeah: slack is my favourite linux distro as well [09:36] I was thinking maybe openbsd might be interesting. I ran netbsd once [09:36] I can't stand having separate -dev packages so that makes a lot less distributions to try [09:36] I was thinking about putting a permanent netbsd install too [09:37] probably no openbsd, too much trolling for me [09:37] (although I really understand their point and believe they are right !) [09:37] its their attempt to cut down on bloat, i think [09:38] I actually had the licenses in mind [09:38] next on my todo : buy slackware/freebsd/netbsd t-shirts [09:38] seems they use the same license as other BSDs. [09:38] yeah but they are much more hardcore [09:39] how does that affect you as a user? [09:39] Action: Camarade_Tux has a problem : keys (as in typing) repeat themselves far too easily, sometimes [09:39] it's not like you have to spend the night in a hotel with them. [09:39] AzalynX, I'm just tired of that, I already had too much [09:39] ok :| [09:40] n0on3 (n=n0on3@81-208-83-247.fastres.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:40] i think even they see some good ideas in linux, despite their hardcoreness. for example, they're apparently working on something like libata. [09:40] where everything will be through scsi. [09:40] and all drives show up as scsi to the OS. [09:42] ummm [09:42] libata doesnt do that. [09:42] Nick change: Jimmen -> Shuren [09:42] true for the most case it may seem that way [09:42] reaver___ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:42] i knew this. i didn't feel like explaining the whole thing. [09:43] dusty_ (n=dusty@88-105-85-107.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:44] i'm still curious whether a BSD will ever have anything like udev. (maybe they already do? i haven't kept up... although i'm pretty sure openbsd and netbsd don't.. not sure about freebsd) [09:44] hi guys! [09:44] hey phrag, whassup [09:44] dusty_ (n=dusty@88-105-85-107.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [09:44] oh trying to debug some C code for hours, i suck =P [09:45] how many lines? [09:45] i'm trying to create a string to echo, however it's overflowing and pipeing my memory too, cant figure out how to limit it [09:46] using c++ isnt an option? [09:46] about 100 lines of code, it's an ftp client [09:46] Yes, classes solve everything! [09:46] no not classes [09:47] well, yes classes [09:47] nah, raw c =P [09:47] timepilot (n=timepilo@c-98-216-175-6.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:47] cant figure out how to limit it <= snprintf? [09:48] just start printfing everything [09:49] amirite? [09:50] ALVAN (n=uyjkgh@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [09:50] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:50] http://pastebin.com/d215dfad9 [09:52] comments arent for saying WHAT you're doing, they are for saying WHY you're doing it [09:52] they are to explain the code between two noob 'developers' [09:53] ah ok [09:53] as in myself and a friend =P [09:53] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [09:53] read the bugs section of man puts [09:54] is that the best way to construct the string though ? [09:54] ok,will check that now thanks [09:54] read the bugs section [09:54] I use comments myself. [09:54] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:54] fscanf is from the stdio family. puts is from the write family [09:55] I use comments because many versions later, somtimes I wonder what something was for. [09:55] you also want strncpy/strncat [09:55] hmm, thinking i shouldn't use puts [09:55] where is echoString declared? [09:55] phrag: :) [09:55] (and C++ std::iostreams ¬_¬ ) [09:55] its okay everyone, *I* pointed out the bug [09:55] and where is echoStringLen set? [09:55] shalli post my whole code ? [09:56] phrag: nah debugging is 90% of programming [09:56] I don't think the use of puts() is a problem here... [09:56] oh i want to fix it, just going round in circles [09:56] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-72-224-255-142.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [09:57] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.94.134.34) joined ##slackware. [09:57] strcpy (echoString,"PASS "); <--- this does not null-terminate the string [09:57] Urchlay: hes getting overflows etc. [09:57] next line of code: strcat (echoString,password); <--- strcat() only works correctly with null-terminated strings... [09:57] http://pastebin.com/d2b6eda9f [09:58] Urchlay: strcpy does copy the null-termination I thought... [09:58] and according to the manpage [09:58] that's not the whole thing, just the 1st part i'm stuck with [09:58] strncpy doesn't guarantee it though [09:58] fred: blah, you're right, I was thinking memcpy() [09:58] either way, strncpy/strncat are safer bets. [09:58] yeah, that's what i need to define, a null terminator right ? [09:58] lets let him fix the whole io problems first. [09:59] char *echoString; /* String to send to echo server */ [09:59] you're not declaring any storage for what echoString points to [09:59] yeah you need to malloc [09:59] memset ? [10:00] that's not an allocation. [10:00] char echoString[SOME_LARGE_NUMBER] would do in a pinch :) [10:00] timepilot (n=timepilo@c-98-216-175-6.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [10:00] so i should be using my buffer [10:00] Action: fred assumes that you meant to beu using our buffers... [10:00] yeah [10:00] as it stands, echoString is being initialized to garbage, then your strcpy() writes to whatever memory the garbage points to... [10:00] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:01] then the puts just messes things up even more [10:01] spook: huh? [10:01] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [10:01] Urchlay: hes mixing fscanf and puts [10:01] big no-no [10:02] spook: eh? fscanf() is for input, puts() is for output [10:02] i used puts, as i could not build the string with just echoString = "USER %s",username; [10:02] Urchlay: try it and see if it works [10:03] in other words he's not using fscanf() and puts() on the same file stream, so no problem [10:03] ah yes true [10:03] Action: spook has been drinking again [10:03] fair enough :) [10:04] ironically my memory stick pro duo is faster than my onboard optical drive [10:04] phrag: I don't know how much you know about C... does my explanation about echoString make any sense to you? [10:05] arny (n=arny@79.119.156.229) left irc: "Leaving" [10:05] TwinReverb: ironically? are you sure? [10:06] I guess maybe I should mention, the whole program could be replaced with about 3 lines of perl (or probably python if you're anti-perl) [10:06] probally school assignment or just fun [10:06] spook, hdparm -tT on both devices [10:07] results: http://www.puresimplicity.net/~twinreverb/linux/sony/sony.html [10:07] heh. I used to get *paid* to help people with their homework... [10:07] TwinReverb: i'm questioning your definition of irony, not your results [10:07] TwinReverb: optical drives are, and always will be, slow [10:08] oh [10:08] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [10:08] too bad it seems hal doesn't display the drive on the desktop when it's inserted [10:08] but it shows up and works good [10:08] hm. Anyone mess with a blueray drive? Tell me their standard "1x" speed is faster than a DVD's... [10:08] Urchlay: not too much really...i'm trying to sort the buffer out you guys suggested [10:08] er, doesn't show up, but is assigned a dev node and works [10:08] thanks again for the pointers, really appreciate [10:09] phrag: pointers are your problem it looks like :) [10:09] is there a better way to build th estring and avoid using puts or is puts fine ? [10:09] puts is fine [10:09] the problem is, echoString doesn't point to any valid storage [10:10] (eh, that's one problem, I haven't really looked for others) [10:11] eh, another problem, the next thing to look at: send(sock, echoString, echoStringLen, 0); // echoStringLen is never initialized [10:11] i'm using RCVBUFSIZE instead now, that k ? [10:12] eh, well, I think if you read the man page for send... [10:12] yes!!! [10:12] it worked 8oD [10:12] (I know, I know, everyone always says "RTFM noob", but there's a reason for that....) [10:12] no more overflow spew =) [10:13] will do mate [10:13] thanks guys, been doing my head in for hours, when the answer was rather simple =P [10:13] summary is, the 3rd parameter is called "len" and it's supposed to be set to the length of the buffer you're sending [10:14] which you could get with strlen(echoString) in this case [10:14] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: " akryl är typ plugnplay och olja är typ DOS" [10:15] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [10:15] smeding_ (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:16] send() needs to know the length because it's capable of sending 0 bytes (aka nulls), so it can't use strlen() itself... but you're constructing the string, you know strlen() is OK to use because you ain't putting any nulls in except at the end [10:16] i see [10:16] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:16] also this line is 100% redundant (you can just get rid of it): strcat (echoString,"\0"); [10:17] was trying to terminate it =P [10:17] strcat() only works on null-terminated strings to begin with... [10:18] in english, that line of code means "find the terminating null of my string, and replace it with a null" :) [10:18] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:19] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [10:19] if you're going to get very far at C, you probably want to get the K&R book (revised edition) [10:20] grep me no patterns and I'll tell you no lines. [10:21] you can tune a filesystem, but you can't tuna fish... [10:21] phrag: is this for your security-related course? [10:21] aw, the man page for tune2fs doesn't have that silly old joke in it. Lame. [10:22] you can tune a filesystem? 8o) [10:22] "My reiserfs is a little sharp" [10:22] Action: TwinReverb don't get that one [10:22] well, my filesystems are all in just intonation... [10:22] omsanti (n=chatzill@59.93.208.72) joined ##slackware. [10:23] TwinReverb: old UNIX had a command "tunefs" (and Linux has "tune2fs") to tune various parameters of a filesystem (how many blocks to reserve for root, that sorta thing). The "tuna fish" joke was a comment in the man page for tunefs on some ancient berkeley UNXI [10:24] jokes are no funny if they have to be explained that much though :( [10:25] fred: how can you trust your files with... etc [10:25] Urchlay: yo mamma so fat she sells shade at the beach ;) [10:26] yo mamma so old, she got a Jesus Christ starter jacket :) [10:26] Action: slava_dp is still happy with reiserfs and not going to switch in the near time. [10:26] Yo mamma is so fat, whenever she farts Al Gore accuses her of global warming, dawg [10:26] snap! [10:27] Urchlay: yo mamma so fat she has her own gravitational field ;) [10:27] yeah i would usually put ext3 at 1% reserve space at most, or maybe 2 x the biggest file (if it's a large hard drive partition) [10:27] Yo mama so old, powdered milk come out her titties [10:27] Yo mamma is so hairy..the only language she speaks is WOOKIE! [10:27] dusty_ (n=dusty@88-105-85-107.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Connection timed out [10:27] Urchlay: hehe, good one [10:27] straterra: even better, when she farts she becomes the number 1 producer of methane, beating all the cows in the world combined [10:27] yo momma so stupid she didn't slap the taste out of your mouth every time you made "yo momma" jokes [10:27] spook: thats lame [10:28] stupid/lazy/negligent [10:28] Nick change: twolf_ -> twolf [10:28] Urchlay, cool [10:28] Yo mamma is so fat, her pants size is uh, uh uh uh uh, [10:28] yo mama so dumb, she thinks a light saber has less calories (also lame...) [10:28] dusty_ (n=dusty@88-105-85-107.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [10:28] "Bitch, lose some weight" [10:28] my parents moved alot when i was a kid... but i always found them --rodney dangerfield [10:28] haha [10:29] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [10:29] Action: TwinReverb writes a virus for linux that shreds the hard drive of anyone who makes "yo momma" jokes on irc [10:29] TwinReverb: name it the yomamma virus ;) [10:29] Action: Urchlay rolls a D20 and successfully saves vs. viruses [10:29] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [10:29] naw dawg i wuz gonna call it yostupid virus [10:29] Action: spook reports TwinReverb to the feds [10:29] Yo mamma is so dumb..she thinks she can write a virus that shreds hard drives of anyone who makes yo mamma jokes. [10:30] :) [10:30] Action: TwinReverb is the feds [10:30] Action: Camarade_Tux switches to his not-yet-installed net/freebsd/haiku/win7 [10:30] Camarade_Tux: there's an OS called haiku? [10:30] Urchlay, yeah it's a ubuntu fork [10:30] Urchlay, haiku-os.org [10:30] and errm, not really ubuntu-like [10:30] they're basing off beos code [10:30] beos, not ubuntu [10:31] just like ubuntu, except all the error messages have the right number of syllables? [10:31] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.226.84) joined ##slackware. [10:32] I probably would have gotten into beos back in 1997 or so, if I'd been able to supply it with hardware it liked [10:32] why not just use hurd [10:32] Urchlay, the system weighs about 45MB once zipped ;p [10:32] are the sony digital cameras decent? anyone have any experience with any of them? (i'm a bit paranoid that the memory stick pro duo reader in my laptop indicates that i can only seem to use sony devices with this media) [10:32] spook, it actually works :D [10:32] Camarade_Tux: true, you want to use win7 [10:33] Howdy. Anyone know who well SATA hotplug is support in Slackware-12.2 with the AMD 770 chipset? [10:33] I never did figure out the whole hurd fiasco... is it an in-joke or something? It can't be a serious effort to develop a kernel... [10:34] Action: Camarade_Tux did not have the sata cable last time he wanted to try sata hotplug, was not an amd 770 chipset anyway [10:34] Urchlay: why not trying GNU/Hurd [10:34] its really awesome [10:34] better than slackware [10:34] spook, are you saying you're running it sometimes ? if so, I want screenshot ;) [10:34] spook: eh, right. And no I don't want to buy a bridge neither... [10:35] spook, win7 will mostly run gcc :) [10:35] spook: define better than slackware [10:35] successful troll is successful [10:35] Vernor Vinge wrote a (fiction) book set in like 2050 or so, according to him the hurd kernel will be finished by then :) [10:35] Why not just use hurd? Because hurd blows fat donkey balls, that's why. [10:36] Urchlay: Was it really necessary to note that book was fiction given that it is set in "like 2050". [10:36] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [10:36] Alan_Hicks: good point. Eh, I suppose it could have been a book of "serious" prophecy... [10:37] bleah, been awake too long [10:38] no one has any sony cams? :S [10:39] eh [10:39] TwinReverb, i do, but i use CF with it [10:39] i'm hungry [10:39] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [10:39] I have two identical mysql databases. One accepts a zero string "" for a datetime, the other doesnt >-< [10:39] can anyone tell me wether birds eyes meat pies are any good? [10:40] Action: spook hopes he makes his point [10:40] spook: do the meat pies have peanuts in them? ;) [10:41] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [10:42] slackytude: so, er, they're not really identical [10:42] ? [10:43] well, one has more coloumns. but the datetime coloumn is the same in both. value is the same [10:43] what would really ben fun to do is build a house with randomised stairs [10:44] if I set a datetime it gets accepted. the other accepts "" too [10:44] use null instead of "" [10:44] not my code [10:44] the database that accepts "" makes NULL out of it anyway, I think [10:45] not your problem then [10:45] /me checks [10:45] it is, I have to add a feature to it [10:45] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cqx141.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:45] to what, the code? [10:46] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:46] yes [10:47] "" > 0000-00-00 00:00:00 [10:47] it shouldnt be your job to fix otherpeoples bugs [10:47] ha! [10:47] I say that too [10:50] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.94.134.34) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:50] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.94.134.34) joined ##slackware. [10:51] hahaha wtf, movie, this guy punches through a beer jug being swung at him, into the other dudes face [10:52] _ohm (n=nava@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:53] Anyone know how well SATA hotplug is supported with the AMD 770 chipset? [10:53] Alan_Hicks: no. [10:56] nope [10:56] the query is the same [10:56] omsanti (n=chatzill@59.93.208.72) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:56] it is always "" for the datetime field [10:56] one handles it, the other doesnt [10:56] Action: slackytude checks #mysql [10:56] what table engine [10:57] anrxc (n=anrxc@sysphere.org) joined ##slackware. [10:58] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "#E>6C" [10:59] skibur (i=1000@12.197.207.65) joined ##slackware. [10:59] kama (n=kama@host158-118-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[11:09] jdifool (n=jdifool@mon75-3-82-67-194-134.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:10] just glad I know what the problem is \o/ [11:10] anyway, time to go home [11:10] slackytude (i=10029@p4FD89BED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [11:11] Buggaboo (n=bug@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:12] hi all [11:12] jdifool: hi [11:12] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [11:12] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [11:12] just to point out that the hal preferences.fdi seems to lack a scsi bus line when applying the storage.policy.should_mount property [11:13] what version [11:13] if you don't add it, devices like esata drives for instance won't work [11:13] 12.2 [11:13] at least won't automount [11:13] interesting [11:13] i've been struggling in hal ref manual for quite some time [11:13] and figured it might save some hassle to others [11:14] rworkman: beep beep [11:14] I have a question about printing though [11:14] anyone familiar ? [11:14] jdifool: shoot [11:14] dont ask to ask :) [11:15] i'm using a Selphy ES1, and on linuxprinting.org, they say that gutenprint sends the raw data but that cups isn't able to process it to the low-level [11:15] so a guy made a script [11:15] that takes the raw input file [11:15] and sends it to the /dev/usb/lp0 [11:15] some printers suck [11:15] so [11:16] if i print to a file with gutenprint in gimp and then take the file as input with the script it works [11:16] i'd like to make it work automatically but i can't figure how [11:16] yeah, um not fun [11:17] it's something like : lp -oraw | es_print /dev/usb/lp0 [11:17] yeah i know [11:17] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [11:17] Is there a mysql client for slackware? [11:18] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:18] usr13: hahahahahahahaha [11:18] mysql -u root -p [11:18] spook: ? [11:18] mysql -u mysql -p ? [11:18] Am I using wrong terminology? [11:18] usr13: "mysql" [11:18] usr13: what do you want to do? [11:18] usr13, or install phpmyadmin (limit to only localhost) [11:19] methinks there is a project out there from sun for linux with spankier graphics. [11:19] spook : i've been using slack for 10 years now, and I'd like to invest in a more structured way to help. I was wondering : is slackwiki.org the official wiki for slackware ? [11:19] Buggaboo: Not for localhost, for remote host. [11:19] spankier - now there's a word I haven't seen in a while :) [11:20] evanton (i=________@gateway/tor/x-55e32b22e84fd47c) joined ##slackware. [11:20] jdifool: the unofficial official wiki, yes [11:20] usr13, do not open phpmyadmin up for remote users, use remote ssh if you have to use it elsewhere... [11:20] spook: I was shown a mysql clent for MS windows last night. I have no idea there even was one. so... [11:20] alisonken1home k tx :) [11:20] usr13: to execute sql? [11:20] Buggaboo: what I'm asking about is a gui application. [11:20] usr13, you have much to learn, young slackawan. [11:20] alisonken1home, maybe u need some specific help about that ? [11:21] spook: No to just set up database names and set passwords etc. [11:21] usr13: yeah, "mysql" [11:21] usr13, like I said, there is one, use the force (i.e. look it up). [11:21] jdifool: specific help on what? [11:21] Buggaboo: Well, I have no idea what I was looking at, but that's what he said it was. [11:21] alisonken1home, the wiki [11:21] Buggaboo: Ok, thanks [11:22] ah - ok. I don't maintain it, just use it a lot. but it could use some help [11:22] alisonken1home, actually i find the lack of accessible documentation quite frustrating, so i was planning to make some, maybe you can point in the right direction (if you lack something specific) [11:22] spook: Actually, what I'm talking about is a gui front end [11:22] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:23] usr13: actually, what you need doesnt need a gui [11:23] spook: I'm not to big on the idea either, just wanted to see if it existed. [11:23] jdifool: it covers the basics of slackware. specifics on advanced topics are a little underwhelming, but it's main use is for people who want to learn the basics [11:23] usr13: use "mysql -u mysql -p" [11:24] alisonken1home, ok I'll look into it [11:24] spook: Ok so it would be something like: "mysql -u usr13 usr13 -p" ? [11:24] .... [11:25] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:25] where user name= usr13 [11:25] usr13: only if your mysql has a usr13 user [11:25] Would the same command work if you just want to change the password for that user name? [11:25] no. [11:25] mysql is the prompt [11:25] to execute the sql to change passwords [11:26] add user rights, create database/tables, execute queries [11:26] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [11:26] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:27] I need to set up mysql and run a demo joomla page on it for testing / learning purposes. [11:27] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:27] To learn about joomla and drupla [11:27] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [11:28] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:28] you need to learn mysql administration [11:28] joomla is very complicated. I'm thinking drupla will be little simplier. [11:28] spook: Yes, this is true. [11:29] spook: Was thinking a gui front end would help. [11:29] usr13, getting joomla to work is stupidly easy... once you've tracked down the right documentation. [11:29] I do not have X installed on the server. [11:29] usr13: no, it makes to dependant on that gui [11:30] spook: could you restate that last comment? [11:30] usr13: no, it makes you dependant on that gui [11:30] Buggaboo: I guess I've yet to track down the right documentation :) [11:31] the gui client only needs X on the client computer, not the db server [11:31] spook: Well, I suppose it could, but not necessarily. [11:31] it will [11:31] you have to setup 1. the permissions: chown -R apache.apache ....files.... 2. setup apache (development) or nginx (production) 3. ?????? profit???!!! [11:32] alisonken1home: What is the name of the client software? [11:33] Buggaboo: This is just a test server. [11:33] usr13, it's easier to just setup kvm on slackware, then run ubuntu-server on qemu... set it up there... [11:33] Buggaboo: To hold backups too [11:33] usr13: http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/gui-tools/5.0.html <- from the mysql site. no slackware packages, but should be able to be converted to one [11:36] usr13: http://www.navicat.com/download.html <- another option to look at [11:36] but it's commercial for full functionality [11:37] sigh [11:38] although it would be nice if they would put a note on what the X and O stands for in the feature matrix [11:38] what does it stand for? [11:38] This looks interesting: http://sms.it-ccs.com/faq.html Anyone tried that? [11:38] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:38] supported/unsupported - but you have to figure out the X and O entries [11:38] Lot of good info, thanks... [11:40] cuba (n=cuba@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) joined ##slackware. [11:41] Ok, saved some notes, gotta run, thanks all [11:41] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.67.229) joined ##slackware. [11:41] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "leaving" [11:42] Buggaboo (n=bug@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) left irc: "A wank a day, keeps the frustrations away" [11:43] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [11:43] invitado (n=invitado@189.188.155.240) left ##slackware. [11:45] josemanuel (n=josemanu@75.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [11:46] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left ##slackware. [11:47] invitado (n=invitado@189.188.155.240) joined ##slackware. [11:49] Hi, yesterday I was bothering this channel to get some help about my "missconfigured" nVidia driver. First of all, thank you very much for your tips. I really appreciate your help [11:49] Second, the driver I was using I get it from nVidia's main site [11:49] i don't know you, but you're welcome [11:50] I had to reinstall everything and, instead of use that driver again, I use those provide by SlackBuilds [11:50] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [11:51] It seems that the driver provided by nVidia doesn't include any kernel module [11:51] br00tal (n=br00tal@66-188-149-192.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [11:51] well, it should after you build it [11:51] tntslack (n=will@adsl54-246.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:52] I believe it was an issue with nvidia don't keeping track with recent kernel versions. But the slackbuild worked fine. [11:52] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-b34708c080a11874) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:53] I had such an issue after installing 12.2, before that I was installing the video driver from nvidia binary directly. [11:54] IIRC some include file from the kernel source was renamed and the nvidia installer couldn't find it anymore when trying to build the kernel module [11:54] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:55] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [11:55] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [11:56] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-2abe8d8867f4289f) joined ##slackware. [11:57] renew_01 (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:57] hey, is it usual that one must do some additional setting after installation as far as power management is concerned ? ACPI ? cause it doesn't work properly [11:57] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-175-85.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:57] http://pastebin.ca/1341174 [11:58] sigh [11:59] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4383377.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:59] Kerio2004 (n=Port@78.93.159.134) joined ##slackware. [11:59] iptables [11:59] typically, you define actions and corresponding events in /etc/acpi/ [12:00] yes [12:00] but there are values already [12:00] rocko (n=rocko@c-67-167-117-152.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:00] DUDE [12:00] nothing useful by default [12:01] hahahaha, did you guys see that gentoo caused the huge netsplit? [12:01] LINUX DEVELOPER GETS LAID http://www.bbspot.com/News/2000/9/linux_laid.html [12:01] wow [12:01] lol [12:01] man I thought we need would get laid [12:01] what about you spook [12:01] i get laid alot. [12:01] ALOT [12:01] and at times of my choosing, not hers. [12:01] sure [12:02] print (n=jhn@201.236.125.101) joined ##slackware. [12:02] what blowup doll do you have spook [12:02] in other news, people who blog about getting laid are typically liars [12:02] lol [12:03] rocko: submissive girlfriend :) [12:03] http://www.bbspot.com/news/2001/06/gates.html Gates Says Linux Best OS Ever [12:03] I see [12:03] rocko: notice how old all that shit is? [12:04] you developer a new linux kernel that works on robots spook [12:04] invitado (n=invitado@189.188.155.240) left irc: "Leaving" [12:04] rocko: get lost you troll [12:04] spook [12:04] why [12:04] you Linux developer [12:04] I kow how you feel [12:05] you don't get laid like that guy did [12:05] it is how it is for ou linuxers [12:05] good idea..what kind of hairlip joins a channel and starts spewing these retarded url's?! [12:06] indeed. [12:07] GNU RELIGION [12:07] http://www.stallman.org/saint.html [12:07] rocko: yeah fuck off now. [12:07] THE FOUR COMMANDMENTS [12:07] nothing special, considering that the average comcast customer is retarded [12:08] Is [12:08] who do you know that I am n ot using that as a proxy? [12:09] it's comcraptic [12:09] because we don't think you are intelligent enough [12:09] Action: evanton rings the "troll alert" bell [12:10] rocko (n=rocko@c-67-167-117-152.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:10] rocko: Leave now. [12:10] N3bunel (n=N3bunel@091-141-020-219.dyn.orange.at) joined ##slackware. [12:10] look at that. He's psychic. [12:12] i'm thirsty [12:13] alisonken1 (n=alisonke@38.99.247.89) joined ##slackware. [12:14] firebird619 (n=jeremy@173-17-137-255.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [12:14] rocko's first link looks like an Onion piece. [12:14] Oh, and it's old too, heh. [12:14] 9 years [12:15] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [12:15] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:17] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) joined ##slackware. [12:17] Hello, world! :) [12:18] I have a problem in running openbox. It says some display error, can somebody help me? [12:18] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [12:19] l4m4_m4n, let's try [12:19] <[]cipher> any idea about how to mount ufs in slackware 12.2? [12:19] openbox isnt supported. [12:19] []cipher: you mount -t ufs [12:19] []cipher, ufs as in the bsd fs ? [12:19] with a proper kernel [12:19] and read-only [12:19] giuppy (n=giuppy@host215-160-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:19] and openbox works well here [12:19] :) [12:22] mmm..., how do I configure properly openbox? pls help [12:23] tribeca (n=vedo@host162-103-static.20-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ciao alla prossima" [12:24] When I try to run openbox-session it say that $DISPLAY is not set [12:25] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.94.134.34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:26] l4m4_m4n, you should call openbo-session inside a xinitrc [12:27] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:27] Pthead (n=pthead@190.176.159.123) joined ##slackware. [12:28] ok, I will try this [12:28] thank you [12:28] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:35] othermindszine (i=othermin@gateway/tor/x-e21f1c27bf0e1136) joined ##slackware. [12:38] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. 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[12:57] I..don't think you can [12:57] no, actually it's cool. [12:57] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:58] ganeshix: printer sharing on NFS?? uhm .. SAY WHAT? [12:58] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [12:58] NFS is not for printers [12:58] NFS is a file system - you can't share resources [12:58] look into CUPS [12:58] BP{k}, watcha cock [12:58] BP{k}, I see... that's why I was not getting documentation for printers... [12:58] :-) [12:59] Nick change: renew_01 -> renew [12:59] ganeshix: the clue was in the name "Networ FILE SYSTEM" ;) [12:59] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:59] dive: wotchers :) [12:59] I see... [12:59] What does windows use for printer networking? (not a troll) [12:59] smb [12:59] oh yeah [12:59] thanks :P [12:59] cuba (n=cuba@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) joined ##slackware. [12:59] yup [13:00] So, to share my printer connected to my Slack box I will need samba? [13:00] Is that true? [13:00] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:00] No [13:00] I can do samba... I was just hoping to do it all through NFS... [13:00] you can use cups directly [13:01] OK, I go to the cups gui, I guess.... [13:01] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [13:01] NFS? [13:01] seems like cups probably won't work out of the box with windows though. [13:01] I don't envy you. [13:01] kamaji: it will [13:01] tribeca (n=naitso@host220-9-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:02] straterra: really? it looks like things need tweaking from googling [13:02] One option on cups is sharing, which is "yes" on my cups.config [13:02] straterra, so what after that? just setup samba server on my slack box? [13:03] How about you use google to do some research [13:03] sure, i always do that... [13:04] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] ganeshix, the cups web front end has links to loads of docs [13:05] dive, tnx. i'm into that right now... it makes interesting reading... [13:07] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-113-227.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [13:07] _ohm (n=nava@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [13:17] Anakin (n=Anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [13:17] JotForTicher (n=Miranda@141-90-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [13:18] vor (n=s@bzq-79-180-117-30.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [13:18] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:19] Man-erg (n=meck@85-18-136-67.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [13:20] JotForTicher (n=Miranda@141-90-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Client Quit [13:22] Bl0tt0 (n=Bl0tt0@wireless-207-213.uchicago.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:23] Bl0tt0 (n=Bl0tt0@wireless-207-213.uchicago.edu) left ##slackware ("Ch'ab'ej chik"). [13:23] Bl0tt0 (n=Bl0tt0@wireless-207-213.uchicago.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:24] OK, printer shared with cups... very easy indeed. [13:24] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-199.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:26] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn142.91-127-77.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [13:27] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [13:27] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:28] slakmagi1 (n=j@adsl-162-153-218.rmo.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:31] rg3 (n=rg3@83.231.87.193) joined ##slackware. [13:33] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:54] lima (n=lima@99.49.20.233) joined ##slackware. [13:54] does anyone know of a good microphone recorder for slackware? [13:55] audacity? [13:55] josemanuel (n=josemanu@75.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [13:55] similar to sony soundforge [13:56] goo1 (n=goo@cust-214-71.on2.ontelecoms.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:56] there is a webcam program inside kde4.2? [13:58] thanks [13:58] nick4_ (n=fffeop@adsl193-91.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:58] Anakin (n=Anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [13:58] hello everybody [13:59] hi gades [14:00] arny (n=arny@79.119.156.229) joined ##slackware. [14:00] hi all [14:00] hi arny [14:02] R0O7 (n=sander@217.120.66.128) joined ##slackware. [14:03] lima (n=lima@99.49.20.233) left irc: "leaving" [14:06] R0O7 (n=sander@217.120.66.128) left ##slackware. [14:09] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [14:09] rg3_ (n=rg3@83.231.85.177) joined ##slackware. [14:13] hi chattr arny [14:14] 299 nicks here and so quiet... [14:14] hi resursive(back); [14:14] s/c/s/ [14:14] normal people dont shut down their computers [14:14] :D [14:14] rg3 (n=rg3@83.231.87.193) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:16] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:16] fserve (i=1000@200.129.153.124) left irc: "Leaving" [14:17] IrquiM (n=irquim@171.80-202-203.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [14:17] of course not - what's a computer good for when its off? [14:18] chattr, a door stop [14:19] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:19] anybody know about some slackware tutorial for acpi setting ? [14:19] It's amazing: after all the days that have passed after 12.2 launch, my bittorrent program is still working hard to serve the DVD version :-) [14:19] rsi (n=fffeop@adsl169-86.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:19] nope, shut up, it was so quiet here! [14:20] Action: edman007 kicks chattr [14:20] cuba: some tricks are usually in the release notes. [14:21] /usr/src/linux/Documentation/acpi/* [14:21] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [14:21] Anakin (n=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [14:25] rg3 (n=rg3@83.231.91.171) joined ##slackware. [14:25] Mures- (i=anakin@79.116.85.137) joined ##slackware. [14:25] Mures- (i=anakin@79.116.85.137) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:25] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] Anakin- (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [14:26] somebody knows what do exactly laptop-mode-tools ? [14:28] huh? [14:29] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [14:29] Action: edman007 bites nullboy [14:30] how'd that taste ? [14:30] bad [14:30] i'm going to have to kill him [14:30] Action: antler hopes that edman007 doesn't say "delicious" [14:30] oh good [14:31] heh [14:31] dive, heh, there are 2 useless files...in the acpid package there are samples for battery and panasonic laptop [14:31] Action: edman007 shoots nullboy [14:31] Action: rk4n3 thought for sure "like chicken" would come in there somewhere [14:31] Anakin (n=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:31] lol [14:32] dive, but that's all [14:33] oh well [14:36] harmattan (n=harmatta@82.159.57.52.dyn.user.ono.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:36] why is the calc in kde so fucked up? i can't type fscking 8 on the numerical keypad, it types "times" (x) instead.. and can't see where to change this shit [14:37] num lock? [14:37] heh [14:37] edman007, it is on [14:37] I wouldn't be able to type numbers at all if it wasn't... [14:38] High_Priest, bc ! [14:38] it's only in kcalc? [14:38] thrice`, didn't check bc [14:38] try konqueror or something :) [14:40] yeah, job done with bc [14:40] fucking kcalc, little piece of shit [14:40] tribeca (n=naitso@host220-9-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:40] try maxima [14:40] Action: fred can't reproduce :| [14:40] tribeca (n=naitso@host220-9-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:40] hah [14:40] *that bug [14:41] aaw [14:41] rg3_ (n=rg3@83.231.85.177) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:42] fserve (n=gbs@200.129.153.124) joined ##slackware. [14:42] there is a simple bash calculator called 'e' that I found some time ago - very useful but I have no clue now where I got it from [14:42] anyone seen that? [14:44] fred: have you tried switching to looser-fitting briefs? [14:45] yeah those 64 bit boxers chafe [14:45] tntslack (n=will@adsl54-246.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:47] his worry is not comfort, but reproduction [14:47] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [14:48] High_Priest: xcalc is also nice if for some reason the _great_ kcalc isn't working on your little piece of shit =) [14:50] so far, today, i've been bitten and shot [14:50] barkink (n=barkink@88.247.222.151) joined ##slackware. [14:50] pprkut: ping? [14:50] eviljames: pong? [14:51] pprkut: Hi. You made the SBo for ardour? [14:51] Fenix-Dark (n=scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:51] yes [14:51] Cool, I'm fighting with scons and ardour-2.7.1 at the moment... did you see an issue with fftw3f? [14:52] nope, everything worked fine here [14:52] barkink (n=barkink@88.247.222.151) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [14:53] Action: eviljames found the problem. [14:53] pprkut: Thanks, believe it or not that helped :) [14:53] haha, you're welcome :) [14:55] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [14:58] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:59] fserve (n=gbs@200.129.153.124) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:01] aperturefever` (n=abell@athedsl-195184.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:01] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:01] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:03] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) joined ##slackware. [15:03] how'd you like to be in this POS when it gets hit by an SUV http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/road-test-gm-hy-wire [15:05] awww video clip is not available :( [15:06] i've witnessed a lot of accidents on the freeways lately [15:06] nullboy, the video doesnt work, it got yanked for copyright stuff. but I can tell you this, if "I" were in that car, that'd mean (a) my Doctor is happy since I lost weight, (b) my Chiropractor happy for all the work he's going to get and (c) the kids in the neighborhood, will be happy and mistake me for a clown, and ask me to make animals out of balloons at Stop Signs :) [15:07] two days ago i saw an SUV get clipped by another car, spin around and roll over at 65mph [15:07] o.O [15:07] the lady inside got jacked up [15:07] lucky they were in a SUV [15:07] yeah [15:07] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc3-asht4-0-0-cust589.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [15:07] car reminds me of this: http://www.tuvie.com/nulla-minimalist-and-stylish-bike-concept [15:07] Would it have rolled if it weren't an SUV though? [15:07] straterra: probably not [15:07] heh [15:07] Action: straterra hugs low-to-the-ground car [15:07] SUVs suck [15:08] especially gas [15:08] you know, ironically, it 'seems' like we have more SUV's off the road in snow and inclement weather here, than old cars, or small cars. I think the SUV's give people a a false sense of security or something, and they push their luck or something. [15:08] SUV's are better in the snow due to weight and a lot of them having AWD.. [15:08] it's never the pick up trucks, or small cars, always the SUV's [15:08] chattr, yea, thats why i dive a space shuttle [15:09] But..it never helps on ice [15:09] i also witnessed that I5 tunnel cluster fsck where ~29 trucks and cars incinerated inside the tunnel [15:09] ilj_ (n=ilj@217.117.75.2) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:09] straterra, my space shuttle flies over the weather [15:09] incinerated? [15:09] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:09] heh suv's Are better in bad weather [15:09] ...all weather [15:09] (generally) [15:09] i'm a slackeare user - i never leave my room anyway... [15:09] edman007: not meteor showers [15:09] I used to have a 2CV - that kept going when we had really bad snow here 10 years ago or so [15:09] or solar flares [15:09] print (n=jhn@201.236.125.101) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:09] straterra: i was right in front for this disaster http://photos.signonsandiego.com/albums/071014tunnelcrash/crash01.jpg [15:09] straterra, :( [15:10] Sure their better, just not a housewife racing to get groceries, and kiddies at school doing 65 in a snowstorm driving up everyone's but [15:10] wtf happened there? [15:10] My car kept getting stuck..but i have zomgbald tires [15:10] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.108.162) joined ##slackware. [15:11] straterra: dumping rain on a downhill run into a tunnel with a blind turn, a car cut off a truck and 27 other vehicles piled into the mess inside the tunnel and caught fire [15:11] antler, SUVs can be better, but most of them are designed for the highway, they are trucks and they handle like a truck, while they may get slightly better traction due to the weight, that extra weight also means that they have terrible handling [15:11] it burned for something like 15 hours [15:11] o.O [15:11] i've owned one. fine if you know it doesn't handle like a lotus esprit [15:11] how many died? [15:11] edman007: yeah [15:11] they know 3 died [15:11] know? [15:12] everything was litterally incinerated [15:12] antler, haha lotus. it's so true, they gotta tell these poeple here where I live that. [15:12] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:12] Action: Old_Fogie still _tries_ to leave one car length per 10 mph of speed. Wish the rest of the people did. [15:12] straterra: this is what it looked like after they drug all the mess out of the tunnel http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-10/33224468.jpg [15:13] nullboy: http://jalopnik.com/5096933/chevy-tahoe-messes-with-texas-mini-cooper-pays-price [15:13] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:13] lol [15:13] antler, most people seem to think that an SUV is safer than a car, its not true, cars are much more maneuverable, and they have much stricter safety standards, that means that SUVs will crash more because they can't manuver, and when they do crash and hit something (which like most crashes, is usually a stationary object) you are more likely to get hurt because they don't have the same standards for crumple zones and such [15:13] jkwood: hahaha [15:13] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:13] dive^ (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:14] SUVs are only safer in an SUV+car crash, which is actually very rare [15:14] edman007, some of these SUV's out there are so flimsy for sure. [15:14] edman007: head on collision: would you rather be in a hyundai pony, or an escalade? [15:14] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-196502.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:14] Nick change: aperturefever` -> aperturefever [15:15] The hyundai. [15:15] (OMG PONIES) [15:15] antler: hyndai..cheaper to fix! [15:15] hyundai^ [15:15] http://club4g.org/board/racing/8442-07-gs-vs-new-cl600.html (I made that post) [15:16] straterra: hehe they are [15:16] edman007: Tell that to the lady whose Tahoe got owned by that Mini. [15:16] Bart_S (n=Shan@5ED71986.cable.ziggo.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:16] antler, statistically, i'm going to hit a tree, the hyundai has better breaking and a better crumple zone, that means i will hit at a lower speed and am less likely to hit it in the first place [15:17] edman007: my feeling is that it boils down to what was alluded to earlier, namely, driver stupidity. [15:17] yep. most of the accidents i have seen were caused my pack driving [15:17] my/by [15:18] s/pack/my/ [15:18] Old_Fogie, and its not that they are flimsy, its that they are way too tough and big, if you are driving 60 and a sharp turn comes up on you and you slam on the breaks in an SUV you may slow down to 50 before hitting the tree, and you suv does not have a huge crumple zone (and its not required one to have one at all), thus when you hit the tree in an SUV you take the damage [15:18] yeah that too [15:18] jkwood: i took out a police tahoe once.... [15:18] just like your link! [15:18] in a car you can probably slow down more and may be able to make the turn [15:18] Portmapper (n=Port@78.93.73.14) joined ##slackware. [15:18] and if you do hit you have a unibody construction in the car that will make the car crumple and not you [15:19] edman007, when people understand http://www.physlink.com/Education/askexperts/ae462.cfm ( <--- define of momentum) they may understand how to drive these SUV's better ( I hope ) [15:19] dive^ (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: "Looks around for terminal..." [15:19] peeps roll their suvs, for example, because they don't drive it properly [15:19] what's pack driving? racing? [15:19] edman007: but i don't know enough about them to comment on the crumple zones and such [15:19] antler: a bunch of cars on the freeway doing 80mph with less than a car length between them all [15:20] one looses it and it looks like mariocart [15:20] edman007, I'd say centroid, but I think that'd fly over peoples heads :) [15:20] ah. duh. [15:20] Aierk (n=smorales@pc-88-197-214-201.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:20] hah yeah, i rear ended a car while pack driving. [15:21] edman007, actually maybe the should make people take physics 1 & 2 prior to purchase of suv's [15:21] nooper: well don't you know it helps save gas driving that way? :P [15:21] lol [15:21] I'M DRAFTING!!! [15:21] "People driving or riding in a sport utility vehicle in 2003 were nearly 11 percent more likely to die in an accident than people in cars, the figures show." [15:21] Old_Fogie: bada bing! [15:21] yeah, I found how to use DejaVuSans Mono 6 in xterm, all I was missing was the proper syntax, I can put nine terms on my screen now \o/ [15:21] Action: edman007 is trying to find a list of death rate by car model [15:22] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.226.84) left irc: Connection timed out [15:23] Camarade_Tux, wow, how can you see anything. I use Deja but size 14 bold mono with a 120 dpi monitor :) [15:23] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.226.84) joined ##slackware. [15:23] fserve (i=1000@200.129.153.124) joined ##slackware. [15:24] gabriel__ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:24] edman007, when you find it, could you check the Spitfire ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_Spitfire [15:24] Old_Fogie, well I have a 1280x800 laptop [15:25] this is what we call a big mess on a freeway http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sig_Alert [15:25] oh wow, you must have good eyes [15:25] Camarade_Tux, those old cars all suck at safety... [15:26] edman007, I guess so and I'd like to know how close to death I would be with it [15:26] edman007, tho I had me a few monster sized lincoln's in 60's n 70's. Talk about invulnerability :) [15:26] and Caddie's [15:27] Old_Fogie, I just checked and its ok, DejaVu fonts are highly readable [15:27] Camarade_Tux, oh I dont doubt it for you, I'm speaking "for me with that" :) [15:27] Nick change: nex -> Guest95301 [15:27] Camarade_Tux, the deja's are my favorite font tho. [15:28] *cough* webcore [15:28] Old_Fogie, see the thing is people feel safe in big cars because they win in a car vs car crash, but they forget that most crashes are car vs tree, and unless you are driving a big rig, the weight of your car is more or less irrelevant [15:28] I've already been using that font for gvim for several months :) [15:28] antler, webcore ? [15:29] I may also take a Lotus Elise :p [15:29] Camarade_Tux: thought chu waz talking about fonts [15:29] Kerio2004 (n=Port@78.93.159.134) left irc: Success [15:29] edman007, very true. I'd love to see a crash test my old lincoln's vs an escalade. I think the lincoln would win. [15:29] othermindszine (i=othermin@gateway/tor/x-e21f1c27bf0e1136) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:29] edman007, trunk was about 4' long [15:29] edman007, nose..front end, almost 5' [15:30] now that's a pimp ride [15:30] oh yea [15:30] I soo miss them cars [15:30] die hanging from the rearview would be soooo in [15:30] I own an suv now, but it's not for the traction, or because I have a small male organ, it's just I'm a big guy and need should and leg room [15:30] antler, yeah but I'm interested in webkit too ;) [15:32] antler, oh yea let's not forget the bumpers on my old cars, reinforced "steel" :) imagine that a car with metal, hahah. the bumper, I can't even tell ya how heavy they were. stronger than the guard rails on the highway thats for sure. [15:33] Old_Fogie: you need a MX5 [15:33] Old_Fogie: I remember those as well - [15:33] You needed 3 people to put one on the car if replacing them, hahah [15:34] you could make 3 honda civics out of the bumper alone [15:34] yup [15:34] Dude [15:34] 40k$ for a Lotus Elise :D [15:34] straterra, hahah, I'd love to be able to fit, but I'm over 6' tall that mx5 wouldnt work for me :) [15:34] Old_Fogie: LIES [15:34] I smoked a MX5 the other day..they are quite slow o.O [15:36] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:37] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:39] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:43] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [15:43] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:43] I don't have a driving license and has never bothered to get one because I don't value the current cars and the ones I could considered are valued a bit too high [15:44] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "BRB" [15:44] except there seems second-hand market can be quite good :) [15:44] I know people who say the same thing. [15:44] I think they are *insane*, and you are too. [15:44] Having a driver's license means you are permitted to drive an automobile, not a tacit admission that you support petroleum based automobiles. [15:45] do you think http://www.autoweb.co.uk/car_detail.asp?cdID=3180868 and http://www.autoweb.co.uk/car_detail.asp?cdID=2846882 aren't too beautiful to believe ? [15:45] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Client Quit [15:45] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:45] Camarade_Tux: You can build a Lotus Elise kit car on the cheap. [15:45] well, relatively speaking :) [15:45] rg3 (n=rg3@83.231.91.171) left irc: "Quit" [15:45] dusty_ (n=dusty@88-105-85-107.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:46] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host210-98-dynamic.117-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:46] Wiat. What? [15:46] Camarade_Tux: That 1st one is at 3,000 pounds? [15:46] eviljames, I've been living with subway, bus and train for 20 years now :) [15:46] eviljames, hehe :p [15:46] Action: eviljames would pay that. [15:47] Action: Camarade_Tux would too, since he's still student that would imply living a full year homeless [15:47] or I could actually sleep in the car ;p [15:47] I think I can't build it myself, or rather I wouldn't be able to drive it on the roads [15:48] arny (n=arny@79.119.156.229) left irc: "gn all" [15:49] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.45) left irc: [15:49] Guest95301 (n=nex@151.53.52.1) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:50] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:50] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-85-107.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [15:50] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [15:51] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [15:51] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:51] Linux neutrino 2.6.28.6-RAS #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Feb 18 12:42:20 PST 2009 i686 Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [15:52] Camarade_Tux: kit cars aren't legal in the uk? [15:52] lots of networking centered fixes in this one [15:52] nullboy: How so? [15:52] nullboy: If you don't mind with a 1-line summary? [15:52] eviljames: he did. [15:52] this is totally inappropriate for this channel but does anyone know how to add a last.fm radio station to google's musicmanager? keep getting 'no demux plugin' errors when I put URLs from my browser into it...im new to the whole last.fm thing [15:52] http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.28.6 [15:52] one line summary ^ [15:53] hahah [15:53] BP{k}: I suppose that's true.. [15:54] eviljames, France (I was using 1£ = 1¬), I actually don't know but I'm pretty sure the car will have to be certified, otoh it would only be 200¬ so it may be worth it too :) [15:54] dartmouth: Google has a music manager? [15:54] Will they index my pirated collection and turn the details over to RIAA? [15:54] Don't be evil! [15:55] kit car? that's like owning a mustang lx 2.3L and putting 5.0L decals on it, only much, much worse [15:55] There are a lot of le mans conversions to gto [15:55] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:55] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [15:56] antler: Nah, not if you know how, or know a mechanic, to build a great engine. [15:56] s/Google/goggles/ ? [15:56] g'day [15:56] NyteOwl: howdy. [15:56] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:57] eviljames: no matter how you add it up, though, 2.3 ain't 5. [15:58] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [15:58] antler: uhm. 1) Mustangs suck, especially the 5.0L. 2) If you take a VW bug, strip it to the frame, attach Lotus body panels and put a fast engine in it... [15:59] Mustangs do not suck :) [15:59] Then it really isn't a 3 dressed up as a 9 anymore. [15:59] especially with a BOSS 302 :) [15:59] NyteOwl: My Dodge Daytona flattens Mustang 50's. [15:59] Modern GT's are heavy and slow o.O [15:59] eviljames: i'm not partial to mustangs myself. my point was purely meant to be illustrative. [15:59] NyteOwl: That's a different story I think :) [15:59] what.. 300 horse? [15:59] i do like the lx's, though. the 5Ls [15:59] 302 cuin = 5l [16:00] NyteOwl: In that case, then they suck. :P [16:00] just amatter of tuning :) [16:00] There was a BOSS 10L [16:00] a much older 10L [16:00] no the BOSS 302 was a fantastic engine. I had one in my Granad [16:00] a [16:00] ye a BOSS 429 [16:00] That was an amazing motor [16:01] I remember ford put it in a fox bodystyle mustang..not production [16:01] I used to drive a friends 1974 Mach 1 with a BOSS 429 (or was it 427 I forget) VERY nice [16:01] one of their performance teams [16:02] Here is another 10l mustang [16:02] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlrKMDe3Qpo [16:02] Friend of mine put a GM 502 (8.2L) in a rusted out 1988 truck [16:02] heh [16:02] eviljames: a modern daytona has a 5.7 hemi head doesn't it? [16:03] He'd pull up to lights and kids in civis would rev engines at him. Mistake. [16:03] :) [16:03] eviljames: heh..sounds like fun [16:03] NyteOwl: I think they just put Daytona stickers on the modern Chargers [16:03] I used to do that with the Granada. all the guys with sports cars looking to "dust" the guy in the 4 door sedan. BIG mistake :) [16:03] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [16:03] straterra: Quite fun, I'm pretty sure the thing defied gravity. [16:04] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [16:04] I am wanting to turn my car in to a project car [16:04] and run silly ammounts of boost [16:04] rworkman: so... I just hacked sbopkg to use fakeroot and sudo to run as me (until the installation moment). It's not that I don't trust your slackbuild scripts... it's that I don't think I should have to. :) But I'm looking for arguments againt the fakeroot approach. [16:05] I'de like to eityher squeeze a 302 under the hood of my tbird or get my hands on one of the superchargers they sued on the Supercoupe [16:05] lesee, phpBB, Phorum or PunBB [16:05] ? [16:06] NyteOwl: Those supercharged t-birds were awesome. [16:06] yes. I have the same engine in mine, just without the supercharger. damn things cost a fortune [16:06] beej71: I'm pretty sure that fakeroot is something you have to build off of SBo, and isn't part of the standard slackware install ? [16:06] beej71: for starters read the sbopkg/fakeroot discussions at http://lists.slackbuilds.org/pipermail/slackbuilds-users/2009-February/thread.html [16:08] Replies there from both Alan_Hicks and myself about why we want it the way it is at SlackBuilds.org [16:08] eviljames: that's totally true [16:08] so far everyone tells me to sue vBulletin or IPB. Naturally they both cost $$$. sheesh [16:08] alienBOB: thanks! [16:09] alienBOB: I'll read that before I say anything else. :) [16:09] limpio (n=macondo@cpe-00155805d6a1.cpe.cableonda.net) joined ##slackware. [16:09] limpio (n=macondo@cpe-00155805d6a1.cpe.cableonda.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:10] Action: fred is pretty much of the opinion that given you need to install it is as root, it's almost entirely pointless worrying about building it as root [16:11] This is strangely different - anybody used Vanilla forum software? [16:11] hmmmm... mathematica... slackware... CAS goodness [16:11] fred: except when writing a _new_ SlackBuild ... [16:11] braqoon (n=braqoon@gatekeeper.office.dialogue.net.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:11] alienBOB: oh, incase you accidentally type "rm -rf /$PKF" instead of $PKG for example? [16:11] too ... odd, nm [16:11] fred: indeed [16:12] hi, i need to setup virtual machine on my Slack, what soft will be te best for it ? [16:12] In fact, it has happened to me [16:12] Action: rworkman raises his hand too. [16:12] then I feel less strongly, but have the "you're running it in a chroot, right?" fallback :p [16:12] Nick change: chattr -> be [16:12] In a virtual machine luckily [16:12] same [16:12] but I know that still sucks [16:12] but beej71's question was about building and installing a 'tested from slackbuilds.org' script [16:12] fakeroot on that is e-tarded [16:12] Old_Fogie: agree [16:13] beej71: my short answer is: I don't like fakeroot, and I don't want to depend on it. The other admins agree with me. Since it's our project, we get to decide. [16:13] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:13] if you don't know what the script does, then ask/google/research before running it [16:13] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:13] beej71: I know that's an assholish way to put it, and it's not directed at you personally, but I (and others, likely) have grown quite tired of people beating that dead horse. [16:14] what dead horse? [16:14] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [16:14] Necos: 21:04 < beej71> rworkman: so... I just hacked sbopkg to use fakeroot and sudo to run as me (until the installation moment). It's not that I don't trust your slackbuild scripts... it's that I don't think I should have to. :) But I'm looking for arguments againt the fakeroot approach. [16:14] that's ugly [16:14] rworkman, noone forces him to use SBo last I checked :) [16:15] rworkman: no offense taken--I'm sure you have reasons; I was just curious what they were. [16:15] chopp: ordered phones, now impatiently waiting :) [16:15] he's more than welcome to write his own [16:15] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:15] rworkman: reading old threads now... [16:15] braqoon: In case nobody else answered: probably VirtualBox [16:15] i personally hate sudo to begin with... but that's just me [16:15] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [16:15] Necos, "I also" [16:15] Action: eviljames nods at Necos [16:15] ^^olive oil [16:16] Old_Fogie: or take the builds.slamd64.com source ¬_¬ [16:16] ... from popeye (in case of youngans' [16:16] hahaha [16:16] fred: ugleee code :-) [16:16] on the other hand, builds.slamd64.com isn't exactly trivial to deploy :p [16:16] hehe [16:16] fred, :) [16:16] alienBOB: my code? :p [16:16] Using Qt for web page generation... novel idea [16:16] rworkman: when I make my own packages, I use fakeroot to combine the "install as user to make sure it's not clobbering anything" and "install as root for the final package" steps. [16:16] Old_Fogie: You must think that you are way older than you really are! I've never met anyone who doesn't know who popeye is :P [16:16] alienBOB: actually, it's been done before, just with a different focus :) [16:16] fred: the code, not you [16:16] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.37.28) joined ##slackware. [16:17] but you don't have to... you can just build as user... [16:17] that's what /tmp is for =p [16:17] eviljames, hee hee, just wasn't sure if others would understand my reference or not :) [16:17] rworkman: in any case, it doesn't matter... I'm not asking for a change in the Slackbuild scripts, if that's any consolation! :) [16:17] beej71: yes, and from a script *development* standpoint, perhaps fakeroot is useful. [16:17] there's qtwui and webtoolkit.eu - meant for RIA development [16:17] I'm wanting lower level :p [16:17] And - not ugly, it is cleanly written. But I hate it nevertheless ;-) [16:17] braqoon (n=braqoon@gatekeeper.office.dialogue.net.uk) left ##slackware. [16:17] meh, it's better than PHP [16:17] beej71: I didn't interpret you to be asking for a change -- that's why I didn't break out the LART for you :) [16:18] PHP is unique in being pretty much the only popular language to be able to lay claim to a crappy interpreter, crappy builtins, and crappy libraries [16:18] I tell ya what is looking to be a great tool for me building/maintaining... that rdiff-backup ; thanks SBo :) [16:18] (and damn, is FastCgiQt fast :p ) [16:18] anyways, most SBo stuff is written to conform to Pat's own slackbuild scripts, and all you have to do is do the ./configure and make steps yourself to see if it's supports DESTDIR... if it does, you're golden [16:18] so... I'm not operating in some dangerous or particularly inefficient way by using fakeroot... it's just unnecessary for tested scripts... is that an incorrect conclusion? [16:18] fred: apart from the ARCH default value what would be the difference between scripts at builds.slamd64.com and those at slackbuilds.org (12.2 scripts have x64_64 support)? [16:19] alienBOB: --libdir ? [16:19] alienBOB: libdir, and "x86_64 support" frequently doesn't include -fPIC [16:19] eviljames: touche [16:19] beej71: it's unnecessary, yes... [16:19] what is better place to install 3d party apps (compiled from source mostly) in slackware /usr/local/share/ or /opt ??? [16:19] fred: yes that would be an omission [16:19] beej71, yes. but it's always best to read scripts and understand what they mean first. [16:19] and statements that slackbuilds don't care about slamd64 :p [16:19] including on the FAQ [16:19] beej71, that way you learn what's going on, and hopefully get great at it, make/contrib back to SBo, etc etc [16:20] and, just CFLAGS, libdir, and $ARCH scares some people too much :| [16:20] fred: that bit is mainly due to the fact that we can not verify submissions on slamd64 because we do not run it [16:20] beej71, which is why I like Slackware in the first place, is the simplicity of how Mr. V (and SBo mimicking his dev methods). I as a non IT person, was able to do some reading, learing and over time can write my own. [16:20] We do not hate you [16:20] ;-) [16:21] alienBOB: I've previously been told that patches for slamd64 compatibility wouldn't be accepted [16:21] heh NSA is offering huge bucks for any company that can get let them monitor Skype heh [16:21] but that support wouldn't be explicitl removed [16:21] fred: again, because we can not test those patches [16:21] fred: that was a tough decision to make, but the problem was that we'd have to make them work on bw64 too. [16:21] that means it's not suitable for me to say "go here for community stuff" :p [16:21] Old_Fogie: don't worry. I'm on board. :) [16:21] and any ohter 64bit slackware derivative [16:21] yeah fred should give all of us ##slackware users a 64 bit box with slamd, then we can test [16:22] Yay! [16:22] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui embora" [16:22] Action: fred wonders if sflack is still alive [16:22] alienBOB: IME, porting to Slamd64 is not always trivial. [16:22] Action: alienBOB has one old-ish 64bit box, with Athlon64 3200+ CPU [16:22] come on fred, gimme a 64 bit box I'll test for you. write it off as marketing :) [16:22] Action: jkwood starts updating Sflack to 12.2 [16:22] hmm, not since 12.0 [16:22] Action: fred slaps sflack for putting the current date at the top of their content area [16:22] Action: Old_Fogie cringes at thought of shipping a box from fred's hometown to me [16:23] $$ [16:23] who the hell is sflack? [16:23] never heard of 'em [16:23] NyteOwl: That's a scary thought, don't you think? The NSA monitoring the last (alleged) peer-to-peer communication structure? [16:23] alienBOB: anyway, main reason for that site is I needed something non-trivial to set fastcgiqt, as I'm planning on something commercial where the performance is actually a major issue [16:23] *that site being in C++/Qt [16:23] alienBOB: That's why I've taken the time work on "porting" SlackBuilds to Slamd64. Just as soon as I tell someone that "this and this are all that are needed", they run into something that needs a patch from Gentoo. [16:23] NyteOwl: Mabye not last, but most prominent. Skype is (iirc) a little more decentralized than your normal phone. [16:23] you can build websites with Qt? >.> [16:23] fred: yes the site is a nice test case and useful in your portfolio too [16:24] and using QtCore means that I don't have to worry about buffer overflows, out-of-bounds on indexes and so on [16:24] Old_Fogie: Hey! I got my toy today. I'm gparting right now :D [16:24] (assuming I use the qt types and containers) [16:24] KungFuJesus (n=adam@CN-ESR1-69-61-211-62.fuse.net) joined ##slackware. [16:24] beej71, if you have questions on a script, there's nothing wrong with coming here, or in LQ and saying "hey what are they doing here...or why is this in this buildscript?" People will understand that you're trying to learn and are asking questions, and if they don't like it, then the heck with them :) [16:24] agentc0reWORK, oh wow nice let me know how it goes :) [16:24] hello, how does one upgrade slackware distributions from say 12.1 to 12.2? [16:24] Action: Necos nods to Old_Fogie [16:24] also, IIRC there's 3 part-finished implementations in PHP by different people for months [16:24] and that took a week ¬_¬ [16:24] read the TIPS_AND_HINTS.TXT file [16:25] Old_Fogie: Oh fyi the 10.1" changed the style of the click for touch pad. It's now "normal". [16:25] fred: What character are you including in your smileys? [16:25] it actually gives you a very simple step-by-step [16:25] CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT it is btw [16:25] eviljames: that's what makes it harder to monitor, and as they are EU based NSA can't just say give us the encryption info. Then again they are woned b eBay who has lost money on Skype so I'd bet for a couple of billion they'de sell the info to the NSA [16:25] agentc0reWORK, oh yea? hmmm, you're starting to make me jealous now watch it tuff guy :) [16:25] yes alienBOB i messed up the file name [16:25] eviljames: I don't consider Skype safe to use anyway so ... [16:25] eviljames: on a UK keyboard, shift+backtick, but in UTF8 [16:25] lol [16:25] (the negation system) [16:25] *symbol [16:26] -_- ? [16:26] that would be a dash [16:26] NyteOwl, I have some reservations on it too, I've held off from it. [16:26] is it bad if all the computer i own still have a floppy drive? [16:27] nooper, mine all do here (except the netbooks :) [16:27] nooper: no0pe. All mien do - including my newest quad core [16:27] fred: Ah, gotcha. It would probably look really good if I wasn't in irssi :D [16:27] I'm in irssi :p [16:27] they are still handy to have sometiems [16:27] yup [16:27] usb floppy drives are useful too.. [16:28] nooper: I added a floppy drive to my core2, and to the new Nehalem machine in our office [16:28] they really are [16:28] http://fred.uwcs.co.uk/b/irssi-smiley.png [16:28] nooper: So I'd say nope :) [16:28] only if the system can boot from them [16:28] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:28] nooper, NyteOwl especially when you do a bios update. Even my acer notebooks, issue the bios updates for floppy , or thru windows gui. The netbooks dont even have a floppy drive, go figure. [16:28] Old_Fogie: usb stick + syslinux + memdisk [16:28] acer netbooks [16:28] Old_Fogie: Oh, i don't mean to be. :D [16:28] i don't really like acer >.> [16:29] Necos, you'd like mine, a fleet of QTY (10) Slackware 12.2 netbooks with gnome 2.22.3 to boot! :) [16:29] Action: NyteOwl needs a new laptop/notebook [16:30] fred: Maybe it's my locale, I get ?_? every time. [16:30] _ohm (n=nava@nom19470a.nomadic.ncsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [16:30] Old_Fogie: you should start a new GNOME package for Slack :) [16:30] eviljames: bah, turn on utf8 :p [16:30] Necos: ummm, the upgrade instructions assume I want everything installed [16:30] this is on a crappy 4GB SCSI disk [16:30] fred, I've never done that yet, bios using those utils but I do have to take the time and learn it, that is invaluable. I'm going to have to cross that bridge eventually. [16:31] damn the Marvell RAID controller on this motherboard is set up stupidly [16:31] NyteOwl, :) [16:31] bbiab [16:31] Bart_S (n=Shan@5ED71986.cable.ziggo.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [16:31] the second drive in the array has to be external [16:33] where do you send bugreports for slackware? [16:34] specifically, I'd like to report bug+solution for the installer's isolinux config [16:34] email patrick volkerding? [16:34] be: What bug? [16:34] be: mail volkerdi@ and CC rworkman@, alien@, and piterpunk@ please [16:35] do those malils get through? - i mean volkerdi@slackware.com must get a thousand mails a day, not counting spam... [16:35] ok, i'll mail with cc [16:36] be: by mentioning his full email address you just increased his spam by like 400% [16:36] Nick change: Anakin- -> Anakin [16:36] (google indexes freenode logs which bots crawl) [16:36] eviljames: 12.2 is supposed to install with 64MB ram - but it needs at least 72MB [16:36] be: ahh [16:36] this is due to the initrd of isolinux which is unnecessarily big [16:37] KungFuJesus, http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&q=volkerdi@slackware.com [16:37] KungFuJesus: valid point, but honestly, it's a lost cause at this stage -- our mail addresses are all over the place written out completely. [16:37] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [16:37] look at the source of the first result ;) [16:37] lol, yeah I'd imagine [16:37] Unnecessarily big yes, if you do not want a network install, be [16:38] But, Pat decided against having the network/pcmcia modules in separate .dsk files like in earlier releases [16:38] Basically, old machines better stick with Slackware 11.0 [16:38] And 64 MB is a _really_ old machine [16:38] alienBOB: there's modules for both huge.s and huge-smp.s in the same initrd-image - that shouldn't be necessary [16:38] I constantly have bots spam my forums, today I just set up pf on our server to try to compensate [16:39] alienBOB: I'm running on a 64 mb 400 mhz machine (it's my access point) [16:39] slakmagi1 (n=j@adsl-162-150-146.rmo.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:39] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:39] i solved that problem by remastering the initrd - without the module branch for huge-smp.s [16:40] win 22 [16:40] oops [16:40] then i could set it up and it runs great - im talking to you from that machine, btw :) [16:41] straterra: 22?! anything past /win 4 is too much for me :( [16:41] heh [16:42] be: people can boot the installer with either huge.s hugesmp.s .... therefore we need modules for both in the iitrd [16:43] alienBOB: but you can configure isolinux to choose a different initrd for each kernel [16:43] be, yes, true [16:43] Interesting idea [16:43] Worth emailing [16:44] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:45] you'll get a detailed mail soon [16:45] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.19) joined ##slackware. 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[17:46] except i cant run 1440x900 since i loaded the tv-in vfl linuxtuv module cx23885 [17:46] i'm cool, i just got my wireless working reliably in opensolaris so i cant complain, wpa and everything [17:46] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:46] that means i dont have to use windows anymore, ever [17:47] you had to use windows for networking ? :) [17:47] i dont have linux or a spare disk to install it [17:47] even when the module is not being loaded and is blacklisted now , something happened when i loaded the module for my card that borked something somewhere , i have tried everything. [17:47] nachox: good deal =) [17:47] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:48] :D [17:48] dtanner: Are you sure that's why you can't run 1440? [17:49] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4383377.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Connection timed out [17:49] dtanner: I only ask because I have a bizarro non-standard monitor that needed some horizsync and vertrefresh options [17:49] eviljames: ever since i loaded that module and it froze my system , no more 1440x900 . believe i have tried everything. i looked back in the old and new x logs , it is saying "invalid moe removing 1440x900" now [17:50] and it was not saying that in the old logs with teh sameknown good working xorg.conf [17:50] i have/had/awlasy had the correct refresh rates in teh xorg.conf. [17:50] Tres bizarre.. do you need / use tv-in, vfl etc? [17:50] even the monitors OSD now says "input not supported" [17:50] yes it is bizarre [17:51] the monitor gives that message when the only mode i piut in xorg.conf is 1440x900 [17:51] ok.. and grepping for EE or WW in xorg log provides no insight? [17:52] yes , i WAS going to set it up to make copies of all these VHS tapes and throw them away . like i said , even when the module is not loading at all , ever since i loaded it and the system frioze , no more 1440x900 [17:52] yes it has errors now when it did not before [17:52] HeatHawk[AP] (n=kevin@nat-vlan10.algonquincollege.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:52] nachox: dont dude me dude :P [17:52] "removing 1440x900 invalid mode" i looked at my old X logs *before* the freeze and that mode was passing fine [17:53] macavity, :) [17:53] Bl0tt0 (n=Bl0tt0@wireless-207-213.uchicago.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:54] macavity: =) [17:54] CaMiKaSe (n=OrLock@201-42-166-190.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:54] CaMiKaSe (n=OrLock@201-42-166-190.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:55] nachox: I can't isntall solaris on my workstation :( [17:55] you suck... [17:55] hehe [17:55] nachox: are you dual booting ? or a seperate machine ? [17:55] n0on3 (n=n0on3@81-208-83-247.fastres.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:55] it doesn't like my hardware apparently [17:55] dtanner, a separate disk [17:56] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [17:56] NyteOwl, did it ever boot? i remember helping you with the livecd, it was busted [17:57] nope. couldn't get it to boot. Downlaoded their tool adn ran it and it spewed back a list of incompatiblities with the hardware (which I consider pretty mainstream) [17:57] NyteOwl, can you paste that somewhere? [17:58] which solaris should i try if i wanted to give it a shot? [17:58] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:58] nullboy: Opensolaris 2008.11 [17:58] not sure if I still have the tool her, elt me look [17:58] thanks [17:59] the only way i would ever use solaris would be if it came pre-installed on a sparc system [17:59] NyteOwl, you can download it from the net easily... [17:59] i386 only ? [18:00] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-195184.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:00] Pig_Pen: Time to update your knowledge of solaris :) [18:01] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:01] Action: dive is downloading open solaris :-) [18:01] me too [18:02] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-2-199.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:02] i'm also pulling debian 5 [18:02] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) left irc: "leaving" [18:02] guys, guys, you wont be more cool that me because you start using opensolaris like i do, you dont stand a chance, really so dont rush [18:03] I just tried installing fedora 10 in qemu but it failed :/ [18:03] nachox, shup ;P [18:03] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-2-199.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:03] I have them send me one of the free DVDs every time they release a new Open Solaris version, but I have yet to actually do anything with them... [18:04] I've been trying a lot of distros/os's out past few days [18:05] nachox: let me know when they figure out what 64-bit is [18:05] thrice`, ?? [18:05] i can only find i386 isos [18:06] but if we download solaris can't nachox teach us to be as cool as him? [18:06] eviljames: i am aware of OpenSolaris x86 build, [18:07] its Peanutbutter jelly time!!! [18:07] this is it right? osol-0811.iso [18:07] i'm using the torrent [18:07] nullboy, not a chance, being cool is something you get from birth [18:07] damn [18:08] nullboy: Yes. [18:08] nullboy: That is, yes it is the right iso [18:08] thanks [18:08] thrice`: I think they are learning soon how many bits there are in 64 [18:08] 64? [18:08] ?! [18:08] Since when! [18:09] tribeca (n=naitso@host220-9-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ciao alla prossima" [18:10] j0z (n=JESUS@201-89-68-90.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:10] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat078.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:11] nachox: http://www.pastebin.ca/1341516 [18:12] warnings on the audio and third party on one lan port are ok, but no driver for the drive controller and main lan ports are kinda no-go's [18:12] _ohm (n=nava@nom19470a.nomadic.ncsu.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [18:13] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:13] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-195184.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:13] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-195184.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [18:14] NyteOwl, there is a legacy mode for those intel chipsets, turn it on, youll lose some sata features like queueing [18:14] nachox: how can I turn it on if I can't even fscking boot? [18:15] the cd starts to boot and then bombs out [18:15] JerrySabor (n=user@63-149-142-34.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] NyteOwl, it's a bios crap... [18:16] nachox: nothing else ahs given me problems. Slack, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, WIndows .. all boot perfectly [18:16] Opensoalris bombs [18:16] i'm downloading nexenta right now [18:17] a distro of opensolaris [18:17] I'll download the new tool which has the altest version profile and see what that says [18:20] Old_Fogie: which driver did you use for wpa_supplicat setup? [18:22] NyteOwl, complaining wont get solaris booting, checking whether your bios has that might :P [18:23] Nope new version has the same warnings. no driver for teh sata controller, lan controller and warnings for audio and video card [18:23] agentc0reWORK: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10416 [18:24] nachox: whether my BIOS ahs what? [18:24] The legacy mode he mentioned. [18:25] the last time I reverted the drive controller to legacy and then back to raid it borked my array [18:25] nullboy: Thanks! That'll give me a good start. I am just trying to figure out how to get it to work with the madwifi. I've never setup wifi before and he has an acer like i just got(netbook). [18:26] rather odd if you ask me that they can't support a mainstream drive controller like Intel [18:26] agentc0reWORK: madwifi uses the wext driver option for wpa_supplicant [18:26] also if you want to use WPA/WPA2 change line 11 to "proto=WPA2 WPA" and line 14 to: "pairwise=CCMP TKIP" and line 15 to: "group=CCMP TKIP" [18:28] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [18:31] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [18:33] nullboy: So from what i can take from this is every wireless i will want to connect i'll need to configure in this configuration correct? I can just "scan" and pick one from the list and have it connect. [18:33] gen (n=Webchat@136.159.123.177) joined ##slackware. [18:34] i received an email from someone with a gibberish blogspot page: [18:34] agentc0reWORK: you just setup multiple config blocks in wpa_supplicant.conf [18:34] http://ilzzbtvbmzmianl.blogspot.com/ [18:34] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) left irc: "changing servers" [18:34] agentc0reWORK: it will automagically connect to the best signal in range [18:34] i went to the page and there was nothing there. how could that page harm me? [18:34] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:34] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:34] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:34] i send lorim ipsum as replies to spammers :D [18:34] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [18:34] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:34] agentc0reWORK: for example, i keep config blocks for my AP, my parents AP, and a few hotspots so where ever i go it just auto connects [18:34] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [18:35] NyteOwl, ouch, if youre using raid in your intel controller than you'll have problems, zfs is solaris' raid [18:35] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat078.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:35] gen, that page auto redirects somewhere before I can read it [18:36] google will eventually delete it [18:37] nachox: I dual boot this machien between slack and windows. I sue Software raid in Slack and the "fakeraid" on WIndows for RAID 1. Slack has no problem with the drives being set to RAID, I don't know why OpenSOlaris should [18:37] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.226.84) left irc: Operation timed out [18:37] NyteOwl: it is a totally different architecture.. [18:37] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:37] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.226.84) joined ##slackware. [18:38] NyteOwl: maybe radically different might be a better term.. [18:38] NyteOwl, software raid would be the reason, solaris never implemented that, they have no reason yo [18:38] *to [18:38] eviljames: I realize that, bt if slack's driver can handle it I would expect Opensolaris, which ultimatelyhas SUn's resource behind it, to do the same [18:38] i am using kmeleon. no javascript here. [18:39] nachox: wouldn't zfs mirrors and/or raidz be their software raid implementation? [18:39] nachox: we're talking at cross purposes here. the BIOS has the controller set to RAID, at that point it's a driver issue. Windows and Slack know what to do with it. Opensolaris obviosuly doesn't. [18:39] Windwos uses it and Slack obviously ignores it [18:40] eviljames, a different implementation to that of linux, it doesnt depend on any intel hardware [18:40] best to disable javascript until it's needed. [18:40] with the browser i am using, you can enable/disable javascript with the click of one button. [18:40] nachox: Ah, so we *do* agree then! :) [18:40] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [18:40] nice [18:40] gen, doesn't seem to be anything on that page anyway in elink [18:40] s [18:40] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-113-227.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:41] Riley (n=Internet@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:41] N3bunel (n=N3bunel@091-141-020-219.dyn.orange.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:41] N3bunel (n=N3bunel@94.245.217.229) joined ##slackware. [18:44] best to use the most specialized, highly tuned applications. [18:45] which would be? [18:45] when i buy a car, i buy from a specialized car manufacturer, not an all-in-one product made by procter and gamble. [18:46] just like buying guns! YAY [18:47] K-Meleon is a fast and customizable lightweight web browser for Windows?? [18:47] ? [18:47] Action: eviljames ' firearms acquisition & control expired. Now he can't buy guns :( [18:48] i have a valid CA handgun cert [18:48] or is it firearms acquisition certification.. [18:48] i bought a 1997 porsche 911 this summer. is it ever a beauty to drive. [18:48] gen: sweet! [18:49] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:49] What is it about computer folks and guns? [18:49] 911's never age. [18:49] eviljames: Canuck? [18:50] NyteOwl: Indeed. [18:50] nullboy: Cali? [18:50] Portmapper (n=Port@78.93.73.14) left irc: [18:50] yeah [18:50] they are now call PAL, Possesion adn Acquisition Licence [18:50] :) [18:50] NyteOwl: ah. Still have to take a course, I assume? [18:51] yes, one for non-restricted and another if you want the restricted endorsement [18:52] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:52] http://homepage.mac.com/max911/.Pictures/1980%20911%20SC/80SCbw1a.jpg [18:53] 17 years older than my 911 and it still looks like a classic fox. [18:53] I wonder when Harper will reintroduce the bill dismantling the Gun Registry. SO far it'ds died twice on the table. [18:53] I'de like to have a 901 Speedster [18:53] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:53] NyteOwl: He shouldn't do that. [18:54] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.19) left irc: [18:54] http://www.kitcar.com/exotic/ei-cars-for-sale/exotic-porsche911-silver-1b.jpg [18:54] he most certainly should [18:54] can you believe that's a 1980 car? [18:54] NyteOwl: Incidents of gun violence in Canada do *not* occur from registered firearms, almost as a rule. Keeping the registry around ensures that we know who should have them, and anyone else caught with a weapon is jailed. [18:55] here's one in a parking lot: http://www.instant-g.com/LocalCars/Black80-SC/DSCN3545.JPG [18:55] the registry will do and has proven to do NOTHING to prevent firearm related crimes [18:55] remember, these are all 17 years older than my baby. [18:55] NyteOwl: That's not the point of the registry. That's just a conservative am-radio talking point. A useless one at that. [18:56] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Connection timed out [18:56] if you don't have a licence you shouldn't have them - don't need a registry for that [18:56] i am going to unveil the 1997 model i personally own. [18:56] gen: it looks like an old car [18:56] that's your 911? [18:56] fserve (i=1000@200.129.153.124) left irc: "time to go home /o/" [18:57] ithe registry was a knee-jerk reaction to placate angry Quebec voters - nothing else. It has cost millions of taxpayers dollars with no tangible results except burdening the taxpayer, honest citizens and gaining votes for the then liberal government [18:57] NyteOwl: check pm [18:57] anyway very ar off topic for slackware. we return you to your usually scheduled rogramming [18:58] http://www.worldclassexotics.com/959FrntDr.JPG [18:58] just like the site says, it's a world-class exotic rod. every millimeter is was personally designed and engineered by the best german minds in the world. [18:59] and produced with the finest parts and the utmost of care. [18:59] all the women tell me how cute it is. [18:59] sweet colour [19:00] but the real pleasure is being behind the wheel and stepping on the GAS. [19:00] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:01] How much rwhp/torque/weight? [19:01] it's an amazing feeling to have all those staillions at your command [19:01] heh, for the weight of that car: plenty :) [19:02] oh it's a conversion....pffff [19:02] Nick change: slakmagi1 -> slakmagik [19:02] i advise everyone to live life like you want to live it. why spend a penny on a mediocre sedan? [19:02] Also, the spoiler and wide body kit look tacky [19:03] no wonder the back looks wacky [19:03] Especially the big "I just got prison raped" gaping holes [19:03] Riley (n=Internet@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:03] rofl [19:03] this one looks more like mine: http://www.worldclassexotics.com/P1262569.JPG [19:03] omfg that was way tooo graphic [19:04] oh god [19:04] as you can see, each porsche has its own individual character. [19:04] Still a horrible back end [19:04] Those holes look like they power some massive jet engines [19:04] straterra, that "back end" is designed and engineered by the best german minds in the world. [19:04] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.171.1) joined ##slackware. [19:05] gen: I don't care if it was designed by Jesus Christ [19:05] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-51.york.ac.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:05] It still looks horribly large and tacky [19:05] that looks like a semi-GT rearend [19:06] straterra, 600 horses. [19:06] that's not an actual GT though is it? [19:06] At the wheels? [19:06] it's like a kit they put on there [19:06] straterra, that's why it looks like it's driving jet engines. [19:06] 600 horses is not why it looks like its driving a jet engine [19:06] The retarded holes and slotted openings in the rear is what makes it look like that [19:07] straterra, how else do you channel the power of 600 horses? [19:07] uh..considering no power is being channeled through those holes.. [19:07] lol [19:07] dude stop it with the holes rofl [19:07] all that ducting is for down force on the rear wheels [19:07] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-51.york.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:07] killing me here hahahah [19:07] It still looks tacky [19:08] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:08] Maybe I should put some of those on my Eclipse [19:08] you better [19:08] needs more holeage [19:08] Maybe I'll get 600 hp [19:08] straterra, your little eclipse doesn't need this kind of cooling and stabilizing techology. [19:08] no no you need the whale tail for that [19:08] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-331971.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:09] ... [19:09] gen: heh..my little eclipse has basically the same block that powers the most powerful 4 cylinder in the world. [19:09] straterra, there's a reason guys like you aren't on the porsche design and engineering team. [19:09] Welcome to the 4g63 [19:09] gen: Yeah..Because it'd be less holy and tacky looking [19:09] http://www.anti-rice.com/rice8/whale-tail-911.jpg [19:09] It reminds me of those mustangs with the scoops on the rear side windows [19:09] straterra, men pay HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS for these cars when new. [19:09] Ok? [19:10] straterra, every MILLIMETER has to be perfect. [19:10] Action: NyteOwl would prefer a Bently Arnage. Comfort AND speed [19:10] They missed several feet [19:10] Someone should tell them [19:10] hahaha [19:11] gen: you'd be better off convincing a guy who already believed it was nice looking :P [19:11] 4-cyl eclipse just sounds wrong :( [19:11] Again, got any dyno sheets or quarter mile times? [19:11] Necos: there are 1000+ 4cyl eclipses [19:11] yeah, i get guys giving me flak for driving such a hot automobile [19:11] look at the old DSM's with the 4g63's [19:11] but never any flak from women. [19:11] that tells you something. [19:11] gen: thats because women are gullible and can relate to those gaping holes [19:12] rolf [19:12] I liek the looks of the 911, but having drivenon in the 70's with original seats it is NOT comfortable for long distances. Unless you change out the seats [19:12] i know straterra... i can't complain... i drive a camry =p [19:12] Necos: sorry.. 1000+ hp...i missed the hp :P [19:12] gen: welcome to the real world, friend. with women it's not so much about a nice looking car as it is about the scent of money they think they smell from such cars :P [19:12] antler: Haha [19:12] NyteOwl, the seats are amazingly comfortable. the leather is from young camels. [19:12] yeah, you can get 1k bhp on a 4-cyl, but what's the point? =p [19:12] antler: 'Hey baby, I have a 10 inch wallet' -- haha. [19:13] I feel like if I dropped hundreds of thousands of dollars in to a gremlin, women would wet themselves over it [19:13] i would rather drive a 1200 bhp 2JZTT supra ^_^ [19:13] Thurin1: that would work better, imo, than ricing out any car. hahahah [19:13] Necos: There is a 1000+ Eclipse street car.. [19:13] antler: True say :] [19:13] 51lb psi [19:13] 1000 hp^ [19:13] lol [19:13] straterra, you have an artificially low opinion of women. [19:13] lol [19:13] gen: No..just the kind of women who care about that car [19:14] artificially? [19:14] straterra, you would enjoy sitting in its luxurious camel seats too. [19:14] No [19:14] did i hear camel toes? [19:14] I'd sell it and buy a nice house and a nice car [19:14] oh, camel seats [19:14] antler: I don't want to hear camel toes. [19:14] If I hear camel toes, that's not a good sing. [19:14] pure baby camel leather, antler. [19:14] sing? sign. [19:14] But if they're singing, it might be worse. [19:14] hahah [19:15] If I had two of them, I'd crush one and have it delivered to your door so your woman and you can cry over its destroyed gaping holes [19:15] LOL [19:15] won't anyone think of the camels? :-( [19:15] yeah, poor camels... [19:15] Who the hell wants camel leather? [19:15] their toes.... [19:15] Action: Khratos going home... brb [19:15] If I had a choice of animal to sit on..it wouldn't be a camel [19:15] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.112) left ##slackware (".. Jesus paid it all, all to Him I owe..."). [19:15] it would be something less bumpy, less dry and less ugly [19:16] Last time I checked, camels aren't native to Germany either [19:16] the leather is like pure butter, straterra. [19:16] softest leather you never felt. [19:16] Why the hell would I want to sit on butter? [19:16] lol [19:16] AEnima1577 (n=asdfjkl@c-71-62-151-225.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] straterra is really good at playing devil's advocate [19:16] straterra, even the women like feel of it on their skin. [19:17] They like the feel of KY massage oils on their skin too [19:17] Doesn't mean I'm going to make a car out of KY [19:17] hmm. [19:17] But a car that *runs* on ky... [19:17] hahahahaha [19:17] KY is more expenive than gasoline :/ [19:17] hmmmmmmm. ky...... spider sense ....tingling...... [19:18] its also water soluable..so..if it rains.. [19:18] doh, in a browser /me always types pythong instead of pythong, well not only inside a browser [19:18] you're assed out =p [19:18] lol [19:18] why not a car that runs on methane [19:18] gen: find any dyno sheets? [19:18] can some one tell me about the program called "cat" what for is it ? [19:18] Pig_Pen: But they already run on gas! [19:18] *rimshot* [19:19] Because I know of a dodge ram that will smoke that German designed car [19:19] Infact, the motor with its turbos are bigger than half that car [19:19] tntslack: man cat [19:19] tntslack: concatenate the contents of a file to somewhere. [19:19] tntslack, just ask linux : run 'wtf is cat' [19:19] ups sorry guys i mean "kat" [19:19] gen: I'm glad you can afford not only the car but the insurance. that would be a killer [19:19] Camarade_Tux: That's only if you have the y/ package series I think :) [19:19] at least aroud here [19:19] Camarade_Tux: btw, I was upmodding you on reddit earlier today I think. [19:19] Necos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG3PbW6U-6o [19:20] gen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG3PbW6U-6o [19:20] Your alleged 600 horse porsche would have a run for its money [19:20] What for is "kat" ? [19:20] eviljames, y/ is the most important part of a linux installation ! last time I had to do a *bare* install, I installed a/ and y/ ;p [19:20] every time is crushing... [19:21] eviljames, yeah, I think I saw your nick ;) [19:21] once you go porsche, you never go back. [19:21] AEnima1577 (n=asdfjkl@c-71-62-151-225.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [19:21] simple as that. just look at jerry seinfeld. i think he owns at least two dozen. [19:21] Camarade_Tux: I'm around. I enjoy trolling on there, but get into Canadian politics pretty fiercely ;) [19:21] Yes you do [19:21] lol i can't watch youtube from work [19:21] porsche + snow == expensive comedy hour [19:22] Necos: bookmark it [19:22] holy shists that's a mean looking engine in that eclipse [19:22] hahahahaha [19:22] antler: wait until they actually rev it up [19:22] Listen to it [19:22] And watch the papers flying around [19:22] straterra, no fun to drive in the snow anyway. [19:22] yes it is [19:22] snewp (n=weng@unaffiliated/snewp) joined ##slackware. [19:22] eviljames, I mostly stay on /r/programming :) [19:22] yeah i hear it. hahaha and the knight rider music. love it hahah [19:22] they drive ok in the snow [19:22] fun stuff [19:23] antler: isnt that an amazing eclipse? [19:23] yeah it is [19:23] stock motor o.O [19:23] Camarade_Tux: I troll there when I have karma to burn. r/prog.. doesn't have much of a sense of humour. [19:23] Camarade_Tux: ps: HASKELL SUCKS. [19:23] I thought we were all sposed to be going green these days anyway and stop driving ridicualously overpowered cars? [19:23] HASKELL is just for crazy people ^_^ [19:24] antler: also note..its all wheel drive [19:24] damn! about 1/2 through the vid when the really punch it [19:24] Riley (n=Internet@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [19:24] antler: yeah..thats what I mean..listen to it when they open her up [19:25] Could you imagine hearing that next to you? o.O [19:25] dive, driving a gas guzzler has become even more of a status symbol. [19:25] dive, it will only increase as gas prices rise. [19:25] what for is "katdaemon" no man for it no help for it ffs and is every time crushing, should i remove it... [19:25] ? [19:25] did you read the article linked on yahoo as to why the gas prices are still going up? something about 1 grade of crude oil being sold super-high or some shit... [19:25] oh that's interesting. no nitrous. [19:25] eviljames, I'm not commenting much on reddit, especially I find downvotes annoying, well the randoms and unexplainable ones (the really unexplainable ones) [19:26] dive: overpowered is a matter of opinion :) [19:26] eviljames, ocaml rocks :D [19:26] dive, i am expecting $700 oil quite shortly, with the devaluation of the USD and the true supply-demand oil situation. [19:26] tntslack: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kat+linux&l=1 [19:27] you don't need nitrous to make a car go retardedly fast [19:27] Nope [19:27] Boost helps though [19:27] nope [19:27] eviljames, you thought I was a haskell fan ? [19:27] boost just helps to get you there... but do you really wanna have to core out an engine after like 30 runs? =p [19:27] josemanuel (n=josemanu@75.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [19:28] snewp (n=weng@unaffiliated/snewp) left irc: "leaving" [19:28] i still like my stepbrothers cobra [19:28] i hold a whole sack of oil stocks [19:28] 600 horse [19:28] so while i may be paying for $500, it won't bother me financially, and it will look like i'm made of $$$$$$$. [19:28] i love hearing the squeal of the supercharger [19:29] Camarade_Tux: No, it was trollery. every time I read a story in /r/prog.. it has to do with haskell or monads or some relatively new/obscure language that's "changing the paradigm of programming!!!!!!one!!" [19:29] $500 to fill up my porsche, rather. [19:29] this is hilarious [19:29] gen: it's not a 924 engine in that porsche, is it? :P [19:29] can you stroke me while you stroke yourself? [19:30] antler: its the 4cyl out of a neon [19:30] nullboy: sure you're in the right window? [19:30] eviljames, I love you ! you're proving /r/prog is haskell :) [19:30] antler: by the sounds it's made by Pratt & WHitney [19:30] my uncle once put a porsche engine in to a VW bug [19:30] heheh [19:30] eviljames, /me was not aware there was a slackware subreddit ! [19:30] Camarade_Tux: I think I still posted the only link there, slackbook :) [19:30] Pig_Pen: seems reasonable the porsche 914 had a VW engine :) [19:30] eviljames, yep, saw that [19:31] I label gen a troll as I've yet to see any kind of dyno sheet [19:31] otoh I'm not really surprised [19:31] gen why are you using a windows browser? [19:31] hehehehe [19:32] Action: eviljames virtualizes XP just so he can use IE6 [19:32] Action: eviljames <3 IE6 [19:32] Action: Necos stabs IE6 [19:32] Action: BP{k} stabs eviljames instead ;) [19:32] panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:33] wine ? :) [19:34] dive, prefer it. [19:34] BP{k}: :D [19:34] Mosaic! [19:34] Nick change: NaCly -> _NaCl_ [19:35] evil MS tactics [19:35] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: "Reconnecting..." [19:35] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [19:36] http://barfblog.foodsafety.ksu.edu/DogObedienceTraining.jpg [19:38] that's the funniest thing I've seen all day [19:39] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.158.122.188) joined ##slackware. [19:40] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:40] dive, that a mix of a dog and a guinea pig ! [19:41] ah, time for math class... [19:41] laters folks... btw, i hate linear algebra >.<; [19:41] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "Those who can't write, write manuals." [19:42] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:42] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [19:43] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-331971.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:44] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "leaving" [19:44] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-331971.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:44] Action: jkwood loves linear algebra [19:45] Action: nachox does too [19:45] linear algebra is great [19:45] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:45] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:45] yup, helped to earn me a living for a lifetime [19:46] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:46] earn a living? [19:46] is that good enough for you? [19:46] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [19:46] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [19:46] panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [19:46] Napoleon Hill wasn't satisfied until he had a mansion full of servants and TWO Rolls Royces. [19:46] did someone pass out crack in here and not save me any? [19:47] God doesn't want anyone to be mediocre. [19:47] gen thinks that talking about Porsche, 500$ gasoline bills and oil stocks will make us like him [19:47] nullboy, aha I see [19:47] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [19:47] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [19:49] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat078.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [19:49] smeding_ (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:50] nullboy, it's a great feeling to have women watch me pay big gasoline bills [19:50] anyone used the Phorum software? [19:50] while secretly my gasoline bills are completely hedged because of all the oil stocks i hold. [19:50] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.201.54) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:50] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:50] they don't know that.... so indeed i am looking forward to $700/barrel oil. [19:50] you're so cool, unfortunately it was talked about earlier and i can't pay you to teach me to be as cool as you are [19:50] funny, and here I thought it was cool to have women like me because of me [19:51] i think gen is short for tool [19:51] rk4n3: you romantic you [19:51] :) [19:51] rk4n3: you must've taken the blue pill that morpheus offered [19:51] no [19:51] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [19:51] it always turned me on when a woman had a soft spot for $$$$ [19:52] my porsche kind of exploits that.. [19:52] antler: probably - maybe if I would have taken the red pill, some women would actually like me [19:52] women like me because my e-penis is this long|--------------------------------------------------------| [19:52] :) [19:52] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:52] (not to scale) [19:52] lol [19:52] gen, if oil hit 700$ per barrell, I got news for you, the world's financial sys is broken (well in advance) you're holding's would not be what you think [19:52] gen is full of shit [19:53] just a secret between you all and i, but something i want to get out in the open [19:53] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [19:53] your a troll? [19:53] i've never admitted it before [19:53] why would some oil stock owning porsche driving womanizer be sitting on IRC in the first place? [19:53] yeah exactly..they wouldn't [19:53] i only recently realized it [19:53] nullboy: burned out the turbocharger? [19:53] lol [19:53] hey! he has legitimate slackware related questions. [19:53] nullboy, because they have 15 min before Mom calls them for dinner. [19:54] Old_Fogie: :D [19:54] rk4n3, haha :) [19:55] i don't mean to talk about my personal life [19:55] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:55] but i've noticed that i have a big weakness for extravagant women [19:55] gen is just some pr0n server owner [19:55] seriously. [19:55] i think more than anything else it's a woman's extravagance that turns me on [19:55] he's a spammer who fails [19:55] is that unusual? [19:55] actually yeah [19:56] JerrySabor^ (n=user@c-98-201-10-14.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:56] I'll admit it: I had a porsche ... once for about 5 minutes ... as a wallpaper [19:56] you drive a Porsche 911 but came in here to spam some pr0n site... [19:56] you are an idiot [19:56] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:56] gen: it's a big world, friend. and the few dollars you have (or think you have) are nothing more than makeup on rainy days. [19:57] you think that anyone in here would believe anything you say after you join and spam some pr0n site? [19:57] jota-_ (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [19:57] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) left ##slackware ("Quitte"). [19:57] Action: macavity looks up from his screen [19:57] who said prøn? [19:58] pr0n ? [19:58] nullboy, you have to share ! [19:58] gen: i can haz free instant access for big titties and fucki fucki naow? [19:58] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10419 [19:58] prØn [19:58] lol [19:58] prôn [19:59] n0rp? [19:59] so what kind of Porsche if I might ask? [19:59] he doesnt have one [19:59] of course not. [19:59] prðn ftw ! [19:59] panzer: it's an RC car [19:59] scew what car he is dreaming about... lets see some serialz! [19:59] he's just some 10 year old spewing headline buzz words [19:59] skibur (i=1000@12.197.207.65) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [19:59] i have a DEEP weakness for extravagant women [19:59] I never like porsche's to be honest. [19:59] but there would be a bit of a difference if he said say a 993 GT2 Evo compared to just saying a 911 [19:59] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@ns.detir.qld.gov.au) joined ##slackware. [20:00] hö? [20:00] Old_Fogie: I'm with you there ... odd cars [20:00] it feels good to get it out in the open [20:00] but of course some of us do [20:00] any comments folks? [20:00] I'll have my evo some day [20:00] rk4n3, I'll take me an American muscle car anyday over them :) [20:00] with the 4B11T...mmmm [20:00] gen: do you have a slackware related issue? [20:00] hey.. stop highlighting me :D [20:00] Old_Fogie: indeed - always wanted me a '65 Mustang [20:00] instead of the older 4g63 [20:00] gen: do you not have anyone else to share your views with? i mean, anyone other than the occupants in this room? [20:00] gen: so you're a Canadian oil futures trader? [20:01] antler, no. i wouldn't admit it to anyone else. [20:01] lol [20:01] heck I had a Corvette that "by design" overheated at idle. That year they had wrong radiator, but when it was happening people were like "woh! it's so powerful it can't even stand still :)" [20:01] heh [20:01] Old_Fogie: I rebuilt a 77 corvette [20:01] That was fun [20:01] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:01] straterra, oh those were fantastic models :) [20:01] Bl0tt0 (n=Bl0tt0@24-148-91-219.c3-0.stk-ubr1.chi-stk.il.cable.rcn.com) joined ##slackware. [20:02] mrtg (i=mrtg@pppoe-196-248.ssi.bg) joined ##slackware. [20:02] night all [20:02] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:02] night tux [20:02] 'night [20:02] Old_Fogie: 1969 Challenger RT convertible :) [20:02] Old_Fogie: we stripped that fucker to the mimimum to keep her street legal [20:02] nullboy, i am not a trader. i hold $$$$$$ in oil stocks. bought them all within the past 2 months. [20:02] AC and power steering came out [20:02] cuba (n=cuba@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) left irc: "Leaving" [20:02] I've been eyeballing a vett' online, it's down in Florida, it's such a sweet price, I'm really thinking of getting it. [20:02] Old_Fogie: do you have any idea wtf the key holes were on the front fenders? [20:02] hahaha [20:02] NyteOwl, oooh sweet. [20:02] that is classic [20:02] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-331971.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [20:02] gen: I don't give a shit [20:02] none of us do [20:03] evo- (n=evo@p4FD4D487.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("parted..."). [20:03] some are just too polite to express it :P [20:03] straterra, no I can't recall to be honest [20:03] mrtg (i=mrtg@pppoe-196-248.ssi.bg) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:03] I think he's filling in for Wahnfrieden [20:03] Action: jkwood expresses your mom [20:03] pick one thing that's simple and buy and hold good, quality companies at rock-bottom prices. [20:03] straterra, do you still have it? [20:03] that's a simple strategy for growing free cash. [20:04] Old_Fogie: no..apparantly its for the factory alarm system [20:04] NyteOwl: Wahnfrieden ? Is that german for some kind of donut ? [20:04] Action: straterra snickers [20:04] Fucking ancient [20:04] rk4n3: no it was a jerk's nick that was in here the otehr evening [20:04] it translates illusion peace [20:04] ah :) [20:04] aha [20:04] darn, no donuts [20:04] Nick change: nullboy -> PorschesNFastChi [20:04] straterra, aha I see. yeah the 70's vette's were sweet. the 80's models I didn't really care for. they reminded me at the time of "knight rider", heh. [20:04] http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_does_the_alarm_system_on_a_1977_corvette_work [20:04] hai guyz what's going on? [20:05] rk4n3: you want a Berliner hehe [20:05] want to see mah car? [20:05] http://tinyurl.com/bof5d8 [20:05] that's me driving [20:05] Old_Fogie: Yeah..it was pretty innovative for 1977 [20:05] I mean..cruise control and an alarm system? [20:05] Khratos (n=Khratos@190.166.120.79) joined ##slackware. [20:05] Nick change: macavity -> ScootersNOldHags [20:05] I loved the t-tops [20:05] samychow (n=cool@24.238.42.70.res-cmts.tv13.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [20:05] beat this lusers! [20:05] straterra, that and they weren't over done on the electronic's in the 70's either. [20:05] hai guyz look at me and my car [20:05] THIS is what life is all about [20:05] Old_Fogie: nope..had the 350 in her [20:05] That was fun to build up [20:05] My client is having trouble reading the pxelinux.0 configuration file.. anyone want to try and help me out? [20:05] Except for when it caught fire before we got the fuel/air ratio correct [20:06] straterra, hahah. [20:06] http://jalopnik.com/cars/assets/resources/2007/12/Mazda_Furai_02.jpg [20:06] I got a ticket the first day I drove that car [20:06] no 1 liks me and mah car [20:06] Nick change: PorschesNFastChi -> nullboy [20:06] straterra, my vette only needed 2 or was it 3 wrenches to work on. 1/2" 5/8" and 9/16". Oh them were the days. [20:06] Nick change: ScootersNOldHags -> macavity [20:06] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:07] Old_Fogie: no shit [20:07] I remember doing the motor mounts in my old sebring.. [20:07] straterra, yup. you couldn't even change the plugs back then, and not raise the engine :) [20:07] half metric half imperial wrenches [20:07] straterra, oh that's madness, I had a Chevy like that for work. A cavalier. What a pita. [20:07] nullboy: honnestly, i think your OpenWRT'd routers are much cooler than old ass heavy porsches :P [20:07] nullboy: I want one of these ... http://www.bentleymotors.com/models/arnage_series/arnage/introduction/arnage_t/default.aspx [20:07] Cavy's are PITA's [20:07] lol [20:08] Cavys are good sleepers though..with a bit of work, it'll take the LS1 [20:08] untill you ride an Aston Martin Vantage V8 you aint got cool wheels.. period :P [20:08] macavity, I've never driven one, but I'd sure like too. [20:08] jiraia (n=jiraia@201-40-51-201.cpece700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:08] jiraia (n=jiraia@201-40-51-201.cpece700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [20:09] blow that it is all "rusty bucket -> decent ride" scale [20:09] macavity, only if it has missiles on board tho, need to clear a hole to get some open road up here to "open her up on" :) [20:09] Old_Fogie: if i had a car like that i would go like 20mph all the time :P [20:10] Old_Fogie: just to make the ride last ;-) [20:10] Nick change: _NaCl_ -> NaCl [20:10] that's what she said :) [20:10] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat078.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:10] Old_Fogie: the "detail" interview takes about 4h.. you know, to pick the right sort of wood for the dashboard and leather for the seats and whatnot [20:11] oh? are they built to order? [20:11] only [20:11] not.."off the rack"? [20:11] huh. no I didn't know that. [20:11] you get quesitions like "are you a hard or soft knockle shaft man" [20:12] The problem with my wanting an Arnage T is that it is $271,990 CAD and would likely cost the better part of $10k/yr to insure [20:12] and that would just be the comprehensive, not the collision [20:12] heh [20:13] you dont get much to say over the stereo.. you get a Linn stereo, period [20:13] but ok.. that is "something you can live with" :P [20:13] jota-_ (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:13] speaking of stero's mine in the car has started squeling when playing casettes :( [20:14] casettes? :P [20:14] yup [20:14] NyteOwl, cleaned the heads on it lately? [20:14] Old_Fogie: yup [20:14] once a month :) [20:14] Riley (n=Internet@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:14] nullboy: oh hahahaha that was you [20:14] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:15] might be a bad roller in there, which is probably not even a part that can be purchased. maybe time for a trip to the junkyard I'd think NyteOwl [20:15] Old_Fogie: I had pretty much come to the same conclusion. Guess I'll have take it out and see what I can see [20:15] ewww tapes what are ya antitechnology? [20:16] :) [20:16] wow.... Windows 7 is running like a charm in kvm [20:16] NyteOwl, I had that happen too, squeeking inside, not thru speakers. I tried some 3 in 1 oil, but it wore of quickly,...and first time I had too much in there, ruined the tape :) [20:16] alkos333: blasphemer! :P [20:16] Old_Fogie: oil will ruin any rubber wheels or belts too [20:16] anyhows, good night people.. i just wanted to annoy gem before i logged off [20:16] macavity: haha [20:16] antler, we used to use cassettes for storing our data in computers :) [20:16] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: "...And thanks for all the patches!" [20:16] Old_Fogie: yeah, i too once had the vic20 [20:17] As I have a few hundred casettes, many of which were never rereleased on CD - yeah :) [20:17] TheBig (n=TheBig@151.16.134.136) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:17] NyteOwl, same here. [20:17] lps i can understand, but tapes? ;-) [20:17] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [20:17] ever try and take an LP in your car? :) [20:17] Action: rk4n3 has some 8-tracks [20:18] well, tuff to keep the record from skipping in the car :) [20:18] rk4n3: I have some of them too. And both palyers adn recorders to match :) [20:18] sweet - I have no player anymore, sadly [20:19] I have a couple of hundred 78's and a few 16's as well :) Even some old steel musicbox disks [20:19] Hey we gave my Dad a car years ago with a cassette of Frank Sinatra. I had borrowed it one day, oh maybe 8 years after we gave it to him, he had the *same* tape in the car. He thought the radio only played Frank :) [20:19] lol [20:19] Old_Fogie: bwahahaha [20:19] ... now THAT's a care :) [20:19] s/care/car [20:19] In hindsight...I think we shouldn't have given him a "ride"...but a "ride to the nursing home" heh [20:20] rk4n3: I have a brand new underdash 8-track player I'll sell you :) [20:20] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:20] brand new ? they still make them ? [20:20] wow. audio purists. [20:20] no but I bought this one and never got around to isntalling it :) [20:21] ah sweet - how much would you want for it ? [20:21] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@61.17.226.84) joined ##slackware. [20:21] there actually was a car with an record player in the dash. (wish I could remember what the hell it was) [20:21] hey, I just installed a usb audio stick....it sound distorted and the volume slider is all or nothing [20:21] can anyone help? [20:21] rk4n3: I dunno, make me an offer [20:22] shipping might be a bitch [20:22] NyteOwl: Germany ? [20:22] x-to-tha-z pimped out a maxima station wagon and put two turntables in the back so that the boy could spin [20:22] chopp: I ordered the phones [20:22] rk4n3: might be a bitch. SHipping would probably be more than the deck [20:23] NyteOwl: Hey right on. Make sure you let me know what you think. [20:23] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjTB6EG3xGo [20:23] makerc (n=makerc@201-42-165-65.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:23] NyteOwl: yeah ... might not be worth it [20:23] chopp: I also found a nice little ruggedized weatehrproof bluetooth headset from plantronics to go with it [20:23] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [20:23] chopp: http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/mobile/bluetooth-headsets/explorer-370-ruggedized;jsessionid=WVF52MLPVHTNCCQBGNUSFEYKAEZWQIV0 [20:24] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@ns.detir.qld.gov.au) left irc: "Leaving" [20:26] NyteOwl: I never knew there was such a thing. I'll be getting one of those for bike use. [20:26] Bl0tt0 (n=Bl0tt0@24-148-91-219.c3-0.stk-ubr1.chi-stk.il.cable.rcn.com) left ##slackware ("Ch'ab'ej chik"). [20:26] chopp: they also make one for helmet users though I forget the model number [20:27] felipe (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) left irc: Client Quit [20:27] NyteOwl: any would work with my helmut. It's not very big. My ears are exposed. [20:27] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. 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[20:59] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:59] night all, i'm off to sleep [21:00] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.37.28) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:03] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:05] g'nite [21:05] Man-erg_ (n=meck@85-18-136-67.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [21:06] Man-erg (n=meck@85-18-136-67.fastres.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:08] great idea for investors to get together and host a pool party in vegas with the pool filled with real $100 bills [21:08] in celebration once oil starts rocketing [21:09] your sorry ass is still here?! [21:09] gen: what are your economic predictions for US ? [21:09] can you imagine the BABES a whole pool filled with $100's would attract? [21:10] gen: watch the movie: magic christian [21:10] why? [21:11] gen: got a scene with a pool filled with money and offal and ppl dive in :) [21:11] Man-erg (n=meck@85-18-136-67.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] wowowo [21:11] amazing [21:11] that's incredible gnubien [21:11] gen: ringo starr was in the movie: magic christian so it must be from the 1970's i guess [21:12] Mushindo (n=ubuntu@88.Red-79-150-145.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [21:12] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:12] Man-erg_ (n=meck@85-18-136-67.fastres.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:12] would be great to just have massive fans driving the air from the pool to the entire city [21:13] no announcement of the party ot the $$$$$$ [21:13] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [21:13] just the smell of fresh $$$$$ all over the city [21:13] are you still here? [21:13] gen: google magic christian film [21:13] money has no smell [21:13] money is a concept [21:13] straterra, i heard the babes can smell it [21:13] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.158.122.188) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:14] no, they smell your body odor [21:14] when the babes get a whiff of it, they will start coming in one by one and then in masses [21:14] would be incredible [21:15] JavaShin (n=JavaShin@unaffiliated/javashin) left irc: "Saliendo" [21:15] straterra, why would they like the smell of my body odor? [21:16] i am trying a pxe boot and continually get 'unable to load configuration file'. any suggestions? [21:16] anyway [21:16] kermit asked [21:17] PXX is one of the best beaten down oil stocks to own [21:17] JavaShin (n=JavaShin@unaffiliated/javashin) joined ##slackware. [21:17] i've heard it called a lottery-ticket WARRANT on oil [21:17] it's ready to go to the moon as soon as this coiled spring gets going [21:19] JavaShin (n=JavaShin@unaffiliated/javashin) left irc: Client Quit [21:20] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [21:20] clijunkie (i=pberry@67.223.226.64) joined ##slackware. [21:21] samychow: your config file is hosed [21:21] makercc (n=makerc@201-42-165-65.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:21] gen what is the coiled spring you speak about? [21:22] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:22] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-94.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:22] JavaShin (n=JavaShin@unaffiliated/javashin) joined ##slackware. [21:22] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "See you later..." [21:22] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:44] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:48] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [21:50] rworkman: ping [21:50] RaNdY (n=randy@unaffiliated/randy) joined ##slackware. [21:53] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [21:57] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:59] FORTUNES ARE BEING READIED AS WE SPEAK [21:59] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:59] I AM SITTING ON COILED SPRINGS [21:59] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [22:01] gen what is the coiled spring you speak about? [22:02] gen no answer about the coiled spring? you must be a shill hawking the stocks you talk about [22:02] he's a jackass [22:03] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:03] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:03] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:05] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl58-94.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [22:09] cipher (n=cipher@41.252.19.138) joined ##slackware. [22:10] i am trying to do a pxe install. i am at the 'boot:' screen. it can't find any kernels i have in the same directory as pxelinux.0, etc. [22:11] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:11] for pxeboot to work, you have to have your tftpd server running - and all references in your dhcpd.conf file are referenced with the tftpd root directory part removed [22:11] i.e.: if tftpd root is /home/tftproot, and your file is in /home/tftproot/pxeboot/, then your pxeboot line would read "/pxeboot/" [22:12] ok [22:12] MOST PEOPLE DESERVE TO BE POOR. [22:12] BLOODY IDIOTS ALL OF THEM [22:12] MOST PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO BE YELLED AT ON IRC EITHER [22:12] gen just like you now go away [22:13] rworkman: can we ban this troll already? he's been at it for hours [22:13] rworkman: pingx2 [22:13] I am going away [22:13] he is spamming the same crap in multiple channels [22:13] I can't take it anymore [22:14] well my tftp root is /tftproot, dhcp filename is: "slackware-current/pxelinux.0", kernels are located in /tftproot/slackware-current/kernels [22:14] are you guys talking about me? [22:14] samychow: no - someone else [22:14] oh look, ##economics just nearly banned him [22:15] samychow: type "grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf" and see what you get [22:15] samychow: If you read scroll back within the past 3 mins.. you'll see who [22:15] mbhayes: told the boss yesterday I'm changing full-time to dreamhost admin on mar02 [22:15] alisonken1home: and? [22:16] how'd he take it? [22:16] Did he cry/ [22:16] :) [22:16] gen (n=Webchat@136.159.123.177) left irc: "http://www.undernet.de" [22:16] well anyways, i just changed my /etc/exports file .. hopefully that does something [22:16] samychow: what you trying to do.. get tftp working? [22:16] serious issues that kid has, help him you will, uhmmm? [22:16] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-49.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:16] not exactly cry, but he did note he just finished quoting a new cable install he quoted the city that he should be getting about a week or two after I leave full time [22:17] makercc (n=makerc@201-42-165-65.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [22:17] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [22:17] samychow: has nothing to do with exports [22:17] i am trying to boot a kernel so i can install slackware [22:18] it's funny some new kid at work just started after me was surfing the web and we were all like hey what website is that and the workforce person heard us so they checked out the kid's machine and he was on walmart lol [22:18] samychow: try posting "grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf" and post what it says [22:18] /etc/exports is only good to mount the "root" directory [22:18] kitche: why would someone go on walmart? [22:18] i am on a gentoo system and i am not using inetd. i am using in.tftpd [22:19] aceofspades19: we think he was filling out an application [22:19] kitche: BUSTED [22:19] aceofspades19: sicne it's only a temp job he has just like I do [22:19] samychow: you may want to ask on #gentoo, but also check if you're using xinetd [22:19] i'm not. xinetd is off. i am using tftpd with option for no use of xinetd. [22:20] my PATH for the tftpd is /tftpboot [22:20] Khratos (n=Khratos@190.166.120.79) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:20] what's the full in.tftpd line that you used? [22:20] alison, /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -l ${INTFTPD_OPTS} [22:21] Nick change: cipher -> [cipher] [22:21] and ... INTFTPD_OPTS="-c -s ${INTFTPD_PATH} -u nobody -v" [22:22] I have never really heard of tftpd not running though a service server really well I know it can be done really [22:22] it can work stand alone [22:22] Nick change: [cipher] -> cipher [22:22] Action: mbhayes has used it countless times to recover passwords on Cisco PIX devices ;) [22:22] Nick change: cipher -> [cipher] [22:23] RRQ from 192.168.0.50 filename slackware-current/kernels/hugesmp.s/bzImage.com [22:23] mbhayes: yes I know I m just saying for a pxe boot I never heard of it being used in stand alone [22:23] that isn't the right filename.. it should be /tftpboot/slackware-current.kernels [22:23] ah [22:23] samychow: uhhh [22:24] Action: kitche goes back to class that happened today [22:24] samychow: if you're using the pxe boot stuff.. it asks for what it wants.. [22:24] samychow: slackware-current.kernels sounds like a directory rather than a filename [22:24] what? [22:24] its look for the file in that directory.. [22:24] alisonken1home, that was a typo. it should be /tftpboot/slackware-current/kernels ... [22:24] rworkman: pingnotrelatedtoatroll [22:25] samychow: and does the hugesmp.s/bzImage.com exist in said directory? [22:25] samychow: and is it a ramdisk image? [22:26] alisonken1home no it is not a ramdisk image [22:26] jkwood: lol [22:27] samychow: are you using pxelinux.0 as the boot image? if so, you need to do some other things since it's a menu-based pxe bootloader [22:27] if the boot image didn't work how did i get to the boot: screen? [22:27] and what did you type after you got the "boot:" screen? [22:28] jkwood: fortunes are being readied as we speak. [22:28] enter [22:28] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-49.dial.telus.net) left irc: "User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby" [22:28] and other locations of kernel images [22:28] samychow: what happened after that? [22:29] it said the kernel wasn't there :] [22:29] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) joined ##slackware. [22:29] and which kernel are you trying to load? [22:29] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:29] hugesmp.s [22:30] you have a problem, then. hugesmp.s is only used if you're running from a disk - not from dhcp [22:30] Which one should I be using? [22:31] look at the slackware disk under "/slackware/usb-and-pxeinstallers" [22:31] if you want to run a live slackware image, it takes some work to create a pxe bootable image that you can run from [22:31] (other than the installer images) [22:31] oh.. those image files.. lol [22:32] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-154.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:32] Action: kitche says linux makes pxe booting difficult then it has to be [22:32] i'll try etherboot.img .. [22:33] did you want to do a network install, or just play with slackware? [22:33] oh yea.. i tried this earlier. all these funky colors show up [22:33] i want to do a network install... i have a netbook [22:34] wait I thought 20 was the last firefox2? [22:34] what funky colors are you seeing? [22:34] rworkman: Has anyone shown you builds.slamd64.com ? [22:35] after the etherboot.img loads.. the screen is just totally screwed [22:35] im gonna try downloading it again [22:36] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-177-112.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] samychow: what does your pxelinux.cfg file show? [22:36] jkwood: yes; looks pretty nice. [22:37] :) [22:37] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl58-94.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [22:39] why would you be using etherboot? doesn't your hardware support pxe? [22:39] Mushindo (n=ubuntu@88.Red-79-150-145.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: "Saliendo" [22:39] ananke: the etherboot setup shows how to use pxeboot [22:40] there is a product named 'pxeboot'? [22:41] alright, i am going to try the initrd.img from /isolinux [22:41] Nick change: dhabyx_ -> dhabyx [22:41] ananke: http://etherboot.org/wiki/index.php [22:41] samychow: not sure if it will work the way you want it to [22:41] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [22:42] alisonken1home : no such word as 'pxeboot' on that page [22:42] i've already done the hard stuff i think.. just need to load a kernel [22:42] lol [22:43] ananke: sorry - pxeboot is a format, not a product [22:43] alhtough the boot image is named pxeboot.0 [22:43] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-177-112.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [22:43] format of what? now i'm interested, i've never seen the words 'pxe' and 'boot' without a space in between them [not counting files] [22:44] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-177-112.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:44] ananke: you know what pxe stands for, right? [22:45] alisonken1home : yes [22:45] freebsd even has a man page for pxeboot: "pxeboot -- Preboot Execution Environment (PXE) bootloader" [22:45] so there is a product named pxeboot [22:45] neat [22:46] there is a program file - product has connotations of commercialism [22:46] product/project, close enough [22:46] I just had deja vu again damn it [22:47] is that chinese food? [22:47] I never get tired of chinese food [22:47] ananke: actually, there are several projects - pxelinux being one of them [22:47] mexican insanity pepper [22:47] part of the syslinux project [22:47] alisonken1home : pxelinux is part of syslinux, but i've never seen 'pxeboot' in it [22:48] Action: ananke has been using pxe back in the day, when one had to get extra chips for nics to support that [22:49] Action: alisonken1home also remembers using an etherboot floppy for those machines that could not use the pxe bootloader from the nic [22:50] Man-erg (n=meck@85-18-136-67.fastres.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:50] mbhayes: didn't you just go through that? [22:51] ? [22:51] go through...? [22:51] [19:43:14] I just had deja vu again damn it [22:51] shaddup [22:51] hehe [22:56] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-177-112.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [22:56] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:56] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-177-112.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@ns.detir.qld.gov.au) joined ##slackware. [23:02] i need to learn how to dance [23:02] jkwood: wanna dance? [23:03] \o\ [23:03] /o/ [23:03] /o/ [23:03] _o_ [23:03] doh [23:03] youtube dancing basics [23:03] yes, you do need lessons [23:03] perfect! [23:03] that look like drunken monkeys doing the wave at a baseball game [23:03] lmao [23:07] I am trying to setup suspend/hibernate on my pc. I am assuming that the resume device is your swap? I have 6 swap drives /dev/sd[abcdef]1. Lilo ran fine when i entered them in like i would for raid-extra-boot. Can i do the same for mkinitrd? [23:07] 6? [23:08] wtf.. [23:08] oh raid [23:08] did you know that...the kernel stripes multiple swap partitions automagically? [23:09] Yes, i know. Thats why i didn't add them in a raid device. [23:12] this helps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsS-0KOccVs&feature=related [23:12] agentc0re: sorry not for you though [23:12] Let me back up a bit. What I do know is that i didn't need to add each partition in a MD device. They are listed individually. I believe that's what you are referring to, correct nullboy? [23:13] agentc0re: right, just plain old swap partitions listing in fstab with the same priorities [23:14] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:14] with youtube videos this introvert will learn to DANCE! [23:15] heh [23:15] this'll help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWmiO4SavZI [23:15] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:16] that guy is leet. stepping backwards while crunching forward. damn. [23:17] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] heh [23:17] I love that video [23:17] probably one of his best [23:18] nullboy: Yup, that's exactly what i have. Now how do i tell resumedev about all six devices? Comma separated? [23:18] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:18] i have no idea [23:18] or would i not need to since they are all labeled swap? [23:18] oh. no problem. [23:18] i only ever use suspend to ram [23:19] slimer (n=bearpers@24.115.161.66.res-cmts.flt.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [23:19] jesus is a LIAR! he never died on that cross, he swapped with a stunt double. [23:19] rworkman: pingcompletelyrelatedtoatroll [23:19] nullboy: ... I guess i am a bit more confused now. I thought that part of this process was to get that to work as well. So from what you are saying, i would need to do this if my goal was to suspend to ram then? [23:19] no no [23:20] i don't suspend to disk, i suspend to ram only [23:20] I suspend to disk, but I only have one swap partition. [23:20] are there any working projects that can covert PDF to TXT or HTML ? [23:20] xxcue (n=xxcue@75.138.27.115) joined ##slackware. [23:20] Soul_keeper: slackware has it pdftohtml [23:20] and pdftotext [23:20] nullboy: I haven't looked yet, but thats what i am trying to do yet. Is there stuff on slackwiki about it? i started to read the README for pm-utils. Am i looking in the right spot? [23:21] Bl0tt0 (n=Bl0tt0@24-148-91-219.c3-0.stk-ubr1.chi-stk.il.cable.rcn.com) left ##slackware ("Ch'ab'ej chik"). [23:21] nullboy, ok i guess whoever made that package fixed their broken source then :) [23:21] any u nerds know good current mobo for linux? [23:21] ohhh that you said pdftohtml [23:21] thought* [23:22] i was joking about nerd [23:22] agentc0re: all i do is use acpi triggers for my laptop's suspend key and i use it to run this "echo -n "mem" > /sys/power/state" [23:22] xxcue : wow. just wow. [23:22] i got ubuntu running virtually [23:22] WTG! [23:22] gee thanks [23:22] xxcue: Pretty much anything should be fine. [23:22] Soul_keeper: i did, i said both pdftohtml and pdftotext [23:22] wtf [23:23] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:23] any preferences ? [23:23] Isn't that like askin ga porn star if they just got laid/ [23:23] nullboy, http://packages.slackware.it are saw them here ? [23:23] you* hmmm [23:23] The Moon is Waning Crescent (29% of Full) [23:23] in want to graduate to slackware someday [23:23] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [23:24] Soul_keeper: /var/log/packages/poppler-0.8.5-i486-2:usr/bin/pdftotext [23:24] same for pdftohtml [23:24] xxcue: try slackware in a VM [23:24] ok thanks [23:24] i can [23:24] it's not even september yet [23:24] does it have just a text based install ? [23:25] yes [23:25] it's not text based, it is curses [23:25] ncurses actually [23:25] If you ned a gui i guess you could try Vectorlinux which is slackware based [23:25] something i can click [23:25] oh lord [23:25] sorry [23:25] if that's an issue you should probably forget out slackware [23:25] xxcue: recommend you just stick with Windoze [23:26] out/about [23:26] i been crying about linux hardware for years [23:26] xxcue : what exactly would 'linux hardware' be? [23:26] stick with ubuntu [23:26] building a $6000 gaming box [23:26] xxcue: yeah I bet [23:26] building a 6000 gaming box to run linux? [23:27] nullboy: Ah. okay. i found some of workman's scripts and events. Do you have it set to suspend after X amount of inactivity? [23:27] stacker 830 nvidia edition case [23:27] nooo [23:27] Action: superGear thinks buying a ps3 or x360 would be alot cheaper [23:27] i have a ps3 [23:27] funny, we spend less on servers, that will do work for much longer [23:27] I see nothing wrong with building a $6000 gaming box to run Linux. [23:27] agentc0re: nope, i have acpi scripts to catch my laptop's suspend key codes and other than that, my laptop is setup via klaptop to shutdown @ 3% battery [23:28] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@ns.detir.qld.gov.au) left irc: "Leaving" [23:28] ill run linux virtual on that machine [23:28] jkwood: nothing wrong with it but not like you run linux to only play games [23:28] nullboy: Gotcha. Thanks for the pointers. [23:28] ET, OpenArena, FreedroidRPG, Battle for Wesnoth... [23:29] superGear: I happen to like playing games on Linux. [23:29] but do those games need a $6000 rig? [23:29] 6K for gaming though? damn [23:29] i can understand 6k is you have a wall of LCD screens [23:29] is/if [23:29] im just messing with ubuntu and command lines ... i want to give my mother an ubuntu box and tell all my dumb friends my mother uses it so they will [23:29] he's a troll.... [23:29] yeah [23:30] and a drive-by troll, by the looks [23:30] why troll? [23:30] leon (n=leon@189.70.44.99) joined ##slackware. [23:30] someone can give one help? [23:31] I don't know why he trolls. [23:31] leon: maybe if you asked a real question [23:31] meta questions are not needed [23:31] hehe [23:31] ok [23:32] Can't locate HTML/Template.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i486-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i486-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl) at /var/www/cgi-bin/openwebmail/openwebmail.pl line 51. [23:32] BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /var/www/cgi-bin/openwebmail/openwebmail.pl line 51. [23:32] leon : you need HTML::Template module. [23:32] perl -MCPAN -e 'install HTML::Template' [23:32] yes [23:33] installed [23:33] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:33] leon : you know, enter key is NOT a punctuation mark [23:34] ; is [23:34] perl -MCPAN -e shell [23:34] hmm, $260 for 4GB of ram for this junky server. i probably ought to buy it [23:34] hologram (n=hologram@ip68-228-57-91.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:34] leon : and? [23:35] annake: seems a little steep in pricing [23:35] install HTML::Template [23:35] slimer: you've been banned here before, I believe. No need to have it happen again. [23:35] http://crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=ProLiant%20DL585 [23:35] repsol_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:35] ananke ? [23:35] blackorca (n=blackorc@72-58-248-182.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [23:35] i actually had to hunt for this server, and buy it used [23:36] repsol_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:36] repsol__ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:37] cpan[1]> install HTML::Template [23:37] CPAN: Storable loaded ok (v2.19) [23:37] Going to read /root/.cpan/Metadata [23:37] Channel flood from leon -- kicking [23:37] Database was generated on Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:26:56 GMT [23:37] leon kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [23:37] leon (n=leon@189.70.44.99) joined ##slackware. [23:37] sorry [23:37] :( [23:37] I m surprise people just have not learned about pasting yet [23:38] leon : do NOT message me. i never asked you to [23:38] leon: pastebin.slackadelic.com. slackboy doesn't like big pastes. [23:38] slimer (n=bearpers@24.115.161.66.res-cmts.flt.ptd.net) left ##slackware. [23:38] ok [23:38] cpan[1]> install HTML::Template [23:38] CPAN: Storable loaded ok (v2.19) [23:38] Going to read /root/.cpan/Metadata [23:38] Channel flood from leon -- kicking [23:38] Database was generated on Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:26:56 GMT [23:38] leon kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [23:39] um. [23:39] ...... [23:39] meta question, enter as punctuation, channel pasting...twice, and unsolicited PMs [23:39] gotta love it [23:39] leon (n=leon@189.70.44.99) joined ##slackware. [23:39] lol owned [23:39] sorry again [23:39] akopaka [23:39] he pasted the same stuff into pm for me [23:39] [23:39] ananke ok sorry [23:39] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:39] http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gail/1.22/gail-1.22.3.tar.bz2 working for anyone else? [23:40] frullet : define 'working' [23:40] heh, there's more: [23:40] -leon- VERSION mIRC v6.35 Khaled Mardam-Bey [23:40] frullet: if you mean downloadable it works [23:40] danc3 : and? [23:40] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [23:40] and what? [23:40] he could be using mIRC with WINE [23:40] yeah, he could be [23:40] danc3 : why should we care what irc client he uses? [23:40] ananke: it can be an indicator [23:41] danc3 : it's an indicator you're a zealot [23:41] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:41] nullboy, must just be me then =/ [23:41] heh [23:41] frullet: correct me if I'm wrong, but gail doesn't come in Slackware.. why on earth would we know if its "working" or not? [23:42] ask in #gnome maybe [23:42] mbhayes: is the *link* working for anyone else [23:42] see, that makes more sense [23:42] and yes its working for me [23:42] works for me [23:42] keveam (n=kevin@24-182-224-178.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:42] keveam (n=kevin@24-182-224-178.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: "leaving" [23:43] keveam (n=kevin@24-182-224-178.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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