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[00:15] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [00:20] Nick change: Stx_ -> Stx [00:21] Zoubiddaaa (~Zoubiddaa@2001:7a8:34d5::1:102) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:22] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC30726.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:24] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:27] hey [00:28] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Read error: Connection timed out [00:31] oobe (~none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [00:33] hi [00:33] hay [00:33] yea yea [00:33] tuvok302Lappy (~Nancy@clgrtnt2-port-151.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:34] this morning my pc became unresponive and kde crashed while i was multi tasking i had to hard resest afterwards i booted in and my / partition was corrupt so i had to run ext4 tools to recover anyway... [00:35] my question is it possible my / partition cause the crash or did the crash cause the corruption [00:35] yes [00:35] i cant find anything in my logs [00:36] i would be looking for some hd diagnostic tools. [00:36] brokedown, i asked a question that yes or no cant answer [00:36] sluckxz, i can fsck.ext4 to repair it checks all the clusters [00:37] *ran [00:37] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:37] oobe: an or question can be answered with a yes no [00:37] smartmontools [00:38] never tried it myself [00:38] everything fine now? [00:38] i guess but u could be saying yes to either its confusing [00:38] oobe: then ask a less confusing question [00:39] multitasking is kinda ?ambiguous? any pc today running not multi tasking. [00:39] but i would seriously be checking my HD especially if there are no logs to be found [00:40] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [00:40] good and bad clusters is kinda bad way to go about it as ?all? hd's come with a set amount of hidden clusters to replace bad ones at a hardware level. [00:40] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:42] agris (1000@85.254.251.139) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [00:43] sluckxz, i didnt know that [00:43] yea guess how i found that out ;-) [00:43] disk failure? [00:44] anywaz ask again alisonken1noc might have missed your question and he/she seems really helpful [00:45] ok [00:45] do you have a tool you recommend for checking the HDD [00:45] haven't really needed one, but there should be smartmon tool to check hd electronics status. if it's media errors, then not sure other than backup and do a thorough fsck [00:46] yea total complete failure. only 1 bad cluster but hdtune reported a massive amount of cluster relocation attempts (hdtune win32) but there were was no more area available. havent found a great hdtune alternative for linux yet. [00:46] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.214.104) joined ##slackware. [00:46] hdparm ? [00:46] reallocation* [00:47] https://guust.tuxes.nl/~bas/wordpress/?tag=hdparm [00:48] i cannot remember ever having a disk fail on me while using linux [00:48] might be better https://guust.tuxes.nl/~bas/wordpress/?p=12 [00:49] hi, last night I changed my /etc/resolv.conf. Today when I turned on my PC, it is again back to about 200 entries nameservers... I am using internet via a 3G USB device... [00:49] we have so many here at the noc that it's common for me to replace array drives at least twice a week [00:49] hi alisonken1home i was just asking about a crash i had this morning after that i had to run fsck [00:49] "Modern hard disk drives are equipped with a small amount of spare sectors to reallocate damaged sectors." [00:49] oobe ! [00:49] alreadygone: sounds like you're using dhcp [00:49] oobe - yep we get them all of the time [00:49] but I gave my eth0 static IP [00:49] alreadygone: doesn't matter if dhcp is running [00:49] alisonken1noc, so i shoudlnt worry about it ? [00:50] "ps ax | grep dhcp" and see what shows [00:50] yeah it's running [00:50] oobe: if you had a crash, start planning for a new drive. if you want to try to keep using that one, then backup data, boot rescue cd and do a thorough check of the drive [00:51] after check/fix, reinstall and try again [00:51] alreadygone: check your /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf and see if there's a nic that is set for dhcp=yes [00:51] at least decent drives are cheap these days compared to what they used to cost [00:51] true - we've been getting 1T drives for a couple of hundred dollars [00:52] alisonken1noc, how do you mean checking like a format that destroys all data [00:52] oobe: pretty much [00:52] ok alisonken1home, also, in pkgtool, services, rc.dnsmasq is set to run at startup [00:52] if you're sure it was a drive failure, then a destructive test/fix is about the only thing that might save your drive [00:53] clijunkie (1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) left ##slackware. [00:53] alreadygone: why do you have dnsmasq? are you using your computer as a gateway for other computers on a lan? [00:53] yes [00:53] i didnt think i could save it [00:54] or will doing that just stop it from using bad clusters [00:54] I am sharing internet connection with another pc [00:54] oobe: keep in mind it's a >possible< save, not a guarantee save [00:55] i don't think we definitely established it was a bad drive only complete lockup and data corruption on reboot. [00:55] alreadygone: unless you're running a lan where each computer needs tcp access to each other, just set everyone's /etc/resolv to public dns servers (8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 for google, 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 for public dns) and forget the dnsmasq [00:55] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [00:55] wow [00:55] *yawn* [00:56] that will be great [00:56] if your internet access already does dhcp, let it handle the hard stuff [00:56] and it allows multiple computers [00:57] smartctl -a /dev/sdb | grep -i reallocated seems to be a way to check reallocated which in my experience is a good way to check if a drive is reallocating. and how much. [00:57] /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf says USE_DHCP[0]="" for eth0 [00:57] are you using dsl? and is your dsl a router or bridge? [00:57] ok [00:57] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Read error: Connection timed out [00:57] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:57] it's a 3G USB device bu HUAWEI [00:57] by* [00:58] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [00:58] if you plan on being the access point, then need to study up on networking a little more :) [00:58] ok :) [00:59] alisonken1noc, im using a 20GB partition for / which is where the possible failure occured does that mean i should replace the whole drive which is 250GB [00:59] http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=210191&page=3&ESRC=navy-a.nl <-- nice toy - 50cal humvee mounted gatling gun [01:00] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:00] if your drive is falling apart, how are you going to only replace part of it? try to rip it apart & just change one platter? [01:00] alisonken1ideal for those rush hour traffic jams :) [01:00] hyke (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:00] oobe: if the drive is going bad, then it's best to replace it. if you're sure it's the root partition, then you can try reinstalling and ignoring the root partition and see how it goes [01:00] im not sure of anything [01:00] eh, bad idea [01:00] NyteOwl: :) [01:01] Urchlay: didn't say it was a _good_ idea :) [01:01] all i know is last night i was on my pc it was fine then all of a sudden it became unresponive and kde crashed [01:01] if it's reporting actual errors, it's used up all its spare sectors, meaning the next time a sector starts failing, the drive won't have any place to relocate the data to [01:01] after hard reset it didnt want to boot until i ran fsck [01:01] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:01] artv61 (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:01] wait, what? have you actually done any diagnostics to see if the drive is really reporting errors? [01:01] or are you assuming "crash = bad drive"? [01:02] crash = bad drive other than his latest point of fsck [01:02] i was thinking it may of been the hard reset and somthing else caused the unresponivness [01:02] I took about 30 hours but I finally got things mirated from Eudora to Thunderbird :) [01:02] s/mirated/migrated/ [01:02] oobe: crashes and drive issues can also be caused by ram issues [01:02] NyteOwl: that is determination [01:03] boot from a slackware install cd, use badblocks or maybe "dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null", and watch the log (which will be on one of the virtual consoles, I disremember which) [01:03] brokedown: would have taken less time but I couldn't just import directly. I still have to redo my address book but that's not too bad. [01:04] if you manage to read the entire drive (takes a while) with no error messages in the log, your problem is elsewhere [01:05] Urchlay, hypothetically,could a cable going bad show similar probs? [01:05] brokedown: and the 2 hours I spent trying to get Thunderbird to talk to both my ISp's POP and SMTP servers [01:05] MLanden: a bad drive cable would show a lot more than that for errors [01:06] a bad drive cable usually just causes the drive to not work at all (it may or may not appear to be present at boot time) [01:06] Lab_Rat (~lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:06] NyteOwl: hopefully it will be worth it [01:07] NyteOwl: interesting - I haven't had any issues getting thunderbird to work with my isp [01:07] thanks folks [01:07] brokedown: well - it's goijg to take a bit of getting used to but so far only minor annoyances [01:07] (of course, it helps that I work there :) ) [01:07] but drive cables basically won't ever fail just from normal operation. The only way you can damage them is if you somehow mangle them while plugging/unplugging them [01:08] or if they're routed in such a way that the fan blades eventually wear into them [01:08] http://www.bangkokpost.com/tech/technews/32664/when-windows-can-mean-life-or-death [01:08] (I mean in normal circumstances, they're safely hidden away inside the PC case, and contain no moving parts, so what's to fail?) [01:08] alisonken1noc: I confess aprt of it may have been me as it was a long tedious and very ytrying day and I was running a little mlow on patience ;) [01:09] anyone who routes cables so they get sawed in half by fan blades, deserves the problems that causes (and hopefully learns not to do that again) [01:09] Dr. said "NO" to reboot after auto update while he was in the middle of a remote accident consult, but it rebooted anyway [01:09] Gotta love MS [01:09] lol [01:09] ".. hopefully learns .." is the key phrase [01:10] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:13] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [01:16] Ahem... [01:16] glade $ whoami ; uname -a [01:16] rworkman [01:16] Channel flood from rworkman -- kicking [01:16] Linux glade 2.6.32.1-kirkwood #2 PREEMPT Wed Dec 16 12:12:08 GMT 2009 armv5tel GNU/Linux [01:16] rworkman kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [01:16] rworkman (3356@about/slackware/rworkman) joined ##slackware. [01:16] heh. [01:16] woot [01:16] another one for robby [01:16] that's armedslack? [01:17] fraktil (fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:17] Indeed. On the Sheevaplug that I received today :) [01:17] neat [01:17] haha [01:17] nice [01:17] rworkman: I thought you got the sheevaplug yesterday? [01:17] indeed [01:17] No, it arrived today [01:18] ah [01:18] I started getting excited yesterday :D [01:18] well, I've been in bed several times today [01:18] Sounds like a really good day or a really bad day. [01:18] normal day [01:18] Them my standards are way too high or way too low. [01:19] get home around 0730, try to get to bed by 0900, get woken up by the construction guys using the ground pounder at the school yard behind my house, try to get back to bed by 1400 so the kid can wake me up around 1800 before going to work [01:20] oh - and the dog wanting out sometime during the day, and he's been having hindquarter weakness for some time now [01:20] Rat409 (~rat@bb-205-209-95-31.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:20] rworkman: did it come with armedslack installed? [01:20] Well, it might have been *your* yesterday when I first mentioned the arrival of hte plug. I know how that can go with sleeping during the day [01:20] brokedown: nope. :) [01:21] I see you've upgraded the kernel since earlier [01:22] rworkman: not using 1.6.32.7? [01:22] i saw the word "Standards" thought you were maybe talking about womens cup sizes.. [01:22] how is the sheevaplug [01:23] dive: yeah, the earlier paste was the debian os that comes on it. [01:23] ah [01:23] alisonken1noc: no, I'm just using whatever's in armedslack-current tree [01:23] ah [01:23] rworkman, how is it working [01:23] haven't checked armedslack yet so didn't know [01:23] I did have to prod things and upgrade a couple of stuff to get it to boot, but that might be pebkac involved here and there [01:24] jeev: so far so good. [01:24] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: She talks to angels, says they call her out by name. [01:24] cool, im getting the atom D510 for my router [01:24] nice [01:24] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [01:24] This arm hardware is cheap enough to make "impulse" buys of it. [01:24] they could outfit sheevaplug to have at least 3 nic [01:24] and that's probably bad. [01:24] how mush [01:25] jeev: there's a guruplug coming out in April - $130 for two ethernet, two usb, embedded 80211bg [01:25] $160 iirc for 80211n [01:25] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:25] This plug I have was $100 [01:25] ah [01:25] is 80211n even a real standard yet [01:26] yes [01:26] finally [01:26] since 0ct [01:26] Several months ago [01:26] two ethernet sucks, they should make 3 [01:26] 0ct huh? :) new month [01:26] minimum, for dual wanners like thee [01:26] yea i didn't know months had numbers in them [01:26] jeev: well, you can stick a usb ethernet thingie in it. [01:27] never [01:27] once you can get 600mbit/sec you wont care if months have numbers in them [01:27] heh [01:27] how stable is usb ethernet anyway [01:28] as stable as the EMI around it and the computer it's plugged into [01:28] i bet i can sell guruplug's to people as ddedicated servers, haha that'd be funny [01:28] guruservers [01:28] you can put like 40,000 in a rack [01:28] Patero-ng (~no@174-23-45-45.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] problem with using a USB ethernet dongle is how easy they get pulled out of the USB connection. [01:30] NyteOwl: especially with 2 year olds around [01:31] heh, there is a reason there is a tab on rj45 connectors :) [01:31] anbydo here uses hidemu but [01:31] hidemybut [01:31] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:32] i got one here, ez connect usb from smc 2202usb/eth work awesome have for years never saw a machine that wouldnt pick em up after 98 [01:33] I have usb ethernet interface here on the wdtv that is placed up high out of the reach of the 2 year old tha loves to pull on cables [01:33] jeev: for what most people will do with it, it would be kickass. This thing will rock as a simple webserver. [01:33] i'll definitely give it a show [01:33] shot [01:34] As long as you don't try to pass them off as something else, I don't see any reason for complaint. Hell, a 1.2 GHz proc and 512 MB of ram ain't bad. [01:34] and you can hang as big a disk off of it that you want - usb is great. [01:34] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Read error: Connection timed out [01:34] Oh, that reminds me, the guruplugs are going to have eSATA ports :) [01:34] rworkman: I saw some even come with esata now too [01:34] hehe [01:35] hehe [01:35] yea i'll check out the guru when it's out [01:36] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [01:39] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [01:40] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.102.84.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [01:41] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.102.84.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:43] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:47] pireau (1000@208.92.18.115) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:51] _slackin_ (~slackin@50.234.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[02:27] and lftp had a mput command [02:27] has* [02:27] no - put file1 file2 will take file 1 and save it as file2 [02:27] LSD`: nah, it will the file2 is the dir for file1 [02:27] in regular ftp clients, "put file1 file2" means "put the local file file1, save it on the server with the name file2" [02:27] right, apparently everyone knows that :) [02:28] I've never used FTP-like software enough to come across it :P [02:28] "man [s]ftp" is your friend :) [02:28] lftp is like ftp on steroids [02:29] and it supports sftp [02:29] backwards - lftp is the lite version of ftp [02:29] IIRC [02:29] nope [02:29] it's much more powerful [02:29] bah - I got it backwards [02:29] I got lftp mixed up with something else :) [02:30] i actually dont mput in the man page [02:30] though the shell is recognizing it [02:30] mput *.php for example [02:30] you might need to say "prompt" to turn off prompting (otherwise it'll sit & wait for you to say Y or N for each file) [02:31] or, eh, sftp clients might be different from regular ftp clients, I dunno [02:31] James____ (~benjsh@h92n5-m-sp-gr1.ias.bredband.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [02:31] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [02:32] HI, any hardcore slackware guys that needs a job?, I am looking for someone that can implement SSL VPN [02:32] well - man ftp since sftp is nothing more than secure ftp [02:32] James___: well, hardcore slackware, but already have a nice job [02:33] however, there's some tutorials on openvpn that should help [02:34] alisonken1noc: yeah, im checkin' google [02:34] i have chmod on my resume [02:34] so far im try to look for its usage beyond mput * [02:34] does "know ls" help? [02:34] icarus: man ftp [02:34] "Expand wild cards in the list of local files given as arguments and do a put for each file in the resulting list. [02:34] See glob for details of filename expansion. Resulting file names will then be processed according to ntrans and nmap settings." [02:35] When I copy this cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-generic-smp-$(uname-r)-smp- file I get this error:zsh: command not found: uname-r [02:35] so you can either explicitly name each file or use a globbing/wildcard pattern to select files [02:36] Axius, try replacing uname-r with uname -r [02:36] Axius: "uname-r" not "uname-r: [02:36] " [02:36] ok [02:38] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [02:39] icarus: or were you referring to sftp use in general? [02:40] _slackin_ (~slackin@50.234.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:41] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) joined ##slackware. [02:44] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@85.217.253.135) joined ##slackware. [02:46] Hello, I would ask, "sbopkg" what can be done to compile 64 bit slacbuilds also possible for there to Slackware64 sbopkg to compile both 32 and 64 bit packages according to the needs of certain applications such as Skype [02:47] Axius_ (~fd@92.84.9.99) joined ##slackware. [02:47] ROKO__, #sbopkg maybe [02:48] Axius (~fd@92.84.9.99) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:49] ^^ [02:49] alisonken1noc: no just like mput file1 file2 file3 [02:49] I'm not saying that anyone is awake there though. You might have to leave a message and idle for a few. [02:49] alisonken1noc: i just moved everything i didnt need otu of the directory, and did mput * [02:49] tired of looking it up [02:49] I've compile a new kernel and when it shows the text and then the screen goes black. What could it the problem? [02:50] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Read error: Connection timed out [02:51] ROKO__: depends on whether you're running a multilib setup for the cross-compile, but the slackbuilds that sbopkg uses are standard slackware and detect ARCH settings on the compiling machine [02:51] I've compile a new kernel and when it starts is showing some text and then the screen goes black. What could it the problem? [02:51] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:51] so a 64-bit slackware will compile 64-bit programs and 32-bit slackware will compile 32-bit programs using the same slackbuild [02:52] the only caveat is if it's a repackage of a binary, like OpenOffice.org [02:52] And how can I do to be multilib? [02:52] maybe ARCH=i686 sbopkg? [02:53] dive: as long as you have multilib installed on slack64 that will work [02:53] yeah it should [02:53] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [02:53] ROKO__: look at alienBOB's repository for multilib (and read the notes there as well) [02:54] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [02:54] Google AlienBOB? [02:54] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/ [02:54] dont' say taht world [02:54] alienBOB is one of the slackware regulars [02:55] well but the problem is how do I sign in the configuration file [02:55] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [02:55] "sign in the configuration file"? [02:55] ops [02:55] if anything, read the slackbuild and see how it does it [02:56] how write in the configuration file [02:56] mquin (~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) left irc: Quit: Support Freenode - http://bit.ly/3NtvfD [02:56] check the slackbuild, it should handle the ./configure options as well [02:57] mquin (~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) joined ##slackware. [02:57] manhunter (~manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter) joined ##slackware. [02:57] ROKO__, try 'ARCH=i686 sbopkg' [02:57] hello guys [02:57] hello, how to download .flv videos from youtube ? [02:57] SBo 13.0 "SBo repository for Slackware 13.0" _SBo rsync slackbuilds.org::slackbuilds/13.0 GPG [02:57] keepvid.com [02:57] helo slackers I have a question [02:58] hello, how to download .flv videos from youtube ? [02:58] keepvid.com [02:58] link must be replaced by that line with that of alienbob but how do I write [02:58] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [02:58] zux1wrk (~zux@80.232.209.242) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:59] ROKO__: alienBOB's is not a repository that sbopkg uses - you first have to do the multilib by yourself [02:59] it's not a normal repository [02:59] manhunter: take the link and use wget [02:59] fakeroute :) how fake can it be? http://www.thoughtcrime.org/software/fakeroute/ [03:00] good one [03:01] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3814, sources date: 20091222, built on: 2010-01-09 17:48:42 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:02] manhunter: google for "youtube-dl" [03:03] google is not encrypted search engine [03:03] can be traced [03:03] eh, and so? [03:03] Patero-ng: I believe everyone here already has figured that out [03:04] the only 128bit encrypted search engine I know and is recommended by the linux community [03:04] httpS://ixquick.com [03:04] if it's recommended by the linux community, how come nobody here ever heard of it before? [03:04] try https with google [03:04] Patero-ng: that would be ##slackware-offtopic stuff [03:04] it defaults it back [03:04] xD [03:04] don't answer that, it's a rhetorical question [03:05] slackware is all for security [03:05] slackware is for stable - security is up to the end user [03:05] I was on the #security channel speaking of how to keep my data private [03:05] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.64.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:05] and I said used a proxy and some script wanted to load and he said google it [03:06] ? as if google is not going to record my ip and my search query [03:06] Patero-ng: you're confusing security with privacy [03:06] Can anyone tell me how can I download the whole directory that have many files and do not want to deal one by one, is there a way? [03:07] if you're worried about privacy and searches, use a proxy [03:07] whoevers watns to breach ur security will vio9late your privacy [03:07] ROKO__: several [03:07] oh yea google may only violate ur privacy [03:07] think man [03:07] Patero-ng: I have been thinking, and you're still confusing security and privacy [03:08] if you wish to push it, take it to ##slackware-offtopic [03:08] Patero-ng: are you the guy who often blabla here and after it gets kicked? [03:08] there is how subversion git??? [03:08] ROKO__: ? subversion and git are two different types of revision control systems [03:09] I just want to download whole directory installation packages at once [03:09] ROKO__: look at wget options for mirroring a location [03:10] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:10] installing the packages is a different matter - and for slackware multilib, make sure you read the notes about it before installing [03:11] zux1wrk (~zux@80.232.209.242) joined ##slackware. [03:11] zux1wrk (~zux@80.232.209.242) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:12] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) joined ##slackware. [03:13] zux_ (~zux@80.232.209.242) joined ##slackware. [03:15] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:16] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:16] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-218.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. 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Supposed to be "press a key to set it as the 'whatever' button, or press Del to clear"... pressing Del does (guess what?) assign Delete as the action key [03:35] lol [03:35] this is a regression, too. doomsday-1.9.0-beta5 didn't have that problem, 1.9.6-beta6.8 does [03:36] toastytoast (~toast@cpe-74-75-198-155.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:37] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:39] manhunter (~manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [03:41] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Read error: Connection timed out [03:42] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [03:46] hey, does anyone know how exactly slackware runs the System V start up scripts? 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[04:55] I know [04:56] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:57] Prismo (~no@174-23-45-45.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [04:57] hello [04:57] is ther a way to keep windows XP as secure as Slackwhore [04:57] yes, leave it on the install disk [04:58] :) locking in safe [04:58] roger that :) [04:58] explain me in detail [04:58] perhaps, if you get the source [04:58] so you're saying the patches may have flaws that only Microsuft know [04:58] xp is fundamentally flawed [04:58] but [04:59] I saw the XP presentation and the guy with white hair says is very secure [04:59] and was left on for a long time [04:59] it is not possible to secure like a posix system because it cannot implement user level file security properly [04:59] lol [04:59] actually it can be done... as much as you're familiar with group policies, use ones from NSA, and now which processes are not necessary for windows... there were less than 10 executables to keep windows xp running ;) [04:59] Patero-ng (~no@174-23-45-45.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [05:00] ok so [05:00] no, you cannot have a secure windows machine that has usb, floppy drives or a network card in it [05:00] I can :) [05:00] hehe [05:00] I ju7st bought Superantispyware for windwos XP [05:01] but I don't wanna feel wasted 10 bucks [05:01] if I'm gonna get easily hacked by spam or hackers [05:01] wasn't it for free? [05:01] I paid the lifetime subscrition [05:01] it is for free [05:01] if u crack it [05:02] Prismo: quit trolling and disappear [05:02] guys [05:03] I fear browsing spys [05:03] nvm [05:03] I think my main issue now is a good firewall for windows [05:03] Prismo: your main issue resides between your ears [05:04] I'm not a cartoon [05:04] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-19-17.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:04] RaNdY (randy@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [05:04] ok so the answer is nao [05:04] Prismo: cartoons have more substance [05:04] Prismo, to be honest if u want a secure/stable .. install linux [05:04] lol [05:04] Butta [05:05] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-143-133.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [05:05] I want to do my best protecting my windows but I still will use linux for my safe data [05:05] cadmium (mike@217.194.139.22) joined ##slackware. [05:05] I just want to have privacy for my browing downloads [05:06] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.62.107) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [05:06] mainly I use windows for gaming [05:06] Rix (~rix@87-126-175-43.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [05:06] you can use linux for gaming too [05:06] but I wanted to know if u can protecti it like do u know what services u can tell me to shut down [05:06] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-24-144.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [05:06] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [05:06] what do u want me to shut down [05:07] I use to quite like XP but I had to deal with an XP machine a few days ago and... no, it can't be safe unless you remove most of its components and lock absolutely everything down [05:07] straterra (~straterra@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [05:08] I personally believe that the goal is a good hardware firewlal [05:08] in between [05:08] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. [05:08] yup, the "no network" one will do the trick :-) [05:09] so [05:09] ur telling me a good firewall can't stop windows from attracking viruses and lies [05:10] zecafig (~zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) left irc: Quit: RED PILL OR DIE! [05:10] after XP am moving to linux anyway I never used vista or 7, I won't goto microsoft agian unless I can't find a good linux gaming machine [05:11] Prismo, Microsoft Windows ... [05:11] a virus with mouse support [05:11] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Read error: Connection timed out [05:11] If it weren't for Windows 7 I may have been tempted to give Linux on the desktop another serious go, heh [05:11] let me get a screehshot of that [05:12] of what? [05:12] U [05:12] zux_ (~zux@80.232.209.242) joined ##slackware. [05:12] fuck [05:12] Cheese :) [05:12] I found a tracking cookie [05:12] :/ while scanning with antispyware [05:13] I thought I keep that damn cookies off my track [05:13] Prismo: gtfo [05:13] Prismo: go troll in #windows [05:13] yeah man [05:13] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.40.164) joined ##slackware. [05:13] if u want help about winsuck this is not ur chan [05:14] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [05:15] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:16] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [05:16] I just [05:16] wanted to say that since I was a little child I dream of Windows and having a PC with windows 95 [05:16] to browsere the internet and install pinball [05:17] rofl [05:17] but since I grow up I can see the world in 360 altough XP servers me for gaming [05:17] you *dream* of Windows? like in sleeping? get outtta here [05:17] :) [05:17] roflll [05:18] Axius_ (~fd@92.84.9.99) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:19] u need a ps3 :p [05:19] I dreamt of finite element modeling whole night. Now I'm pondering whether that counts as working from home [05:19] prft [05:19] c ya guys.. [05:19] Action: TheNexT out of here. [05:20] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) joined ##slackware. [05:21] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [05:22] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [05:27] Axius (~fd@92.84.9.99) joined ##slackware. [05:28] what the hell is open desktop? [05:28] Nick change: zux_ -> zux1wrk [05:29] When I run this command ln -s System.map-generic-smp-$(uname -r)-smp- System.map / i get this error: ln: creating symbolic link `System.map': File exists What can I do? [05:29] del symlink [05:29] how? [05:29] rm /boot/System.map [05:30] if you really now what you are doing... [05:30] I usually don't remove at least one latest working kernel, until i'm sure that the new one works... [05:31] when i run lilo I get this :Fatal: open /boot/vmlinuz: No such file or directory. what can I do? [05:31] i think its beyond your abilities [05:31] ) [05:31] did you delete /boot/vmlinuz? [05:31] that's a good one :) [05:31] no [05:32] Axius, then how comes it's not there? [05:32] do: ls -la /boot/vmlinuz [05:32] you can skip the a [05:33] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [05:35] he probably rebooted.... [05:35] vmlinuz-generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp-smp-axikernel [05:36] if you only deleted the symlinks, you should be ok, at least until you successfully run lilo... [05:36] Axius, what are you trying to achieve here? [05:37] Action: Zordrak just cut his bloody finger open... bled everywhere [05:37] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-230-181.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [05:37] stupid screwless blanking plates [05:38] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [05:38] I want to make my graphic card work. [05:38] so you reconfigured the kernel, right? and rebuilt it? [05:38] yes [05:38] at first, what card it is? [05:39] maybe you need to compile just module not whole kernel :) [05:39] i think we better stay at the kernel thing here.... [05:39] s/maybe // ;-) [05:39] at this point ... maybe [05:39] when vmlinuz is deleted already [05:40] heheh ;-) [05:40] installpkg :-) [05:40] Axius, what i usually do is, copy the new kernel to /boot/vmlinuz_custom [05:40] VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 [Chrome 9 HC] (rev 01) [05:40] do the same with System.map and config [05:40] the edit lilo to list the new kernel as a second option [05:41] then [05:41] but i try to never brake what's already working until I know the new stuff is working... [05:43] Axius (~fd@92.84.9.99) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:43] ups.... [05:43] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-76-226.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [05:43] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:44] we can place bets now, will he boot up again... [05:44] if he misconfigured the new kernel and deleted the old.... :) [05:44] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:47] Axius (~fd@92.84.9.99) joined ##slackware. [05:49] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-230-181.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:53] Axius (~fd@92.84.9.99) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:54] Axius (~fd@92.84.9.99) joined ##slackware. [05:56] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Read error: Connection timed out [05:56] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:56] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [05:57] when i start flusbox the screen frozen. What can I do? [05:58] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [05:58] HEllo [05:59] SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Quit: Saindo [06:02] when i start flusbox the screen is frozen. What can I do? [06:02] I wish I knew [06:02] read the log [06:03] has anyone gone anywhere near samba4 on slack64 yet? [06:06] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.41.161) joined ##slackware. [06:12] Axius, are you running hal and dbus? the screen might be frozen due to mouse and keyboard not being recognized by X [06:13] slava_dp: what would you do with 6 SAS disks and a h/w raid controller that can only do raids 0, 1 and 5? [06:13] i cant decide [06:13] I run dbus. [06:14] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Quit: edman007_ [06:15] Zordrak, do a raid 6 in software? [06:16] slava_dp: I've compile a new kernel for my graphic card and it does work. [06:16] ooo no wait.. it DOES do RAID10 [06:16] awesomeness [06:16] :) [06:16] Zordrak, great [06:17] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-230-181.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:17] i love the deadbeef player, that got added to SBo. dumping audacious for the time being. [06:18] awesome. now have a RAID10 with two hot spares :) [06:18] Axius (~fd@92.84.9.99) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:19] i have a simpsons naming scheme so im gonna call it wolfcastle :) [06:19] Axius (~fd@92.84.9.99) joined ##slackware. [06:23] shyko (~shyko@187.39.212.183) joined ##slackware. [06:23] shyko (~shyko@187.39.212.183) left irc: Changing host [06:23] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [06:24] what mail client would you recommend for exchange? I tried outlook in wine. that was not a success. need it for work:D im tired of windows, so I'm setting up a slackware desktop instead:d [06:24] I wouldnt [06:25] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.40.164) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [06:25] thats not being obtuse i just honestly think that running exchange is professional negligence and cannot recommend anything to work with it other than perhaps Outlook, an iPhone or the Web Access client [06:26] please can someone take a look at this xorg config file. http://dpaste.com/161012/ [06:26] Axius, why do you think that you need an xorg.conf? [06:27] more than that why are you specifying input devices? [06:27] Zordrak: so I just have to use the windows laptop for mail ?:P [06:27] Kowalczyk: or replace the mail server [06:27] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [06:27] Kowalczyk, maybe you can create some forwarding to some other mail server? [06:27] Kowalczyk: or run VirtualBox with Windows XP in one of four desktops [06:27] its the work mail :D [06:27] What I need now is to make X Work. [06:27] so I can't do anything [06:27] Axius: then remove the xorg.conf [06:28] Zordrak: hmm. maybe [06:28] try don't remove, rename ir [06:28] it [06:28] Kowalczyk: you can try.. i just dont think youll have much fun [06:28] hehe [06:28] im having the windows laptop beside me anyway. can use outlook on that [06:29] Kowalczyk, i have not worked with exchange, but is not possible to configure forwarding without admin access? [06:29] Kowalczyk: id rather choke myself to death on obama's underwear than use Outlook. But thats me. [06:29] dont know... Im not into mail stuff:d hhe. no clue :D [06:29] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.66.49) joined ##slackware. [06:29] well i'm not into exchange, but have a look [06:30] you can then configure thunderbird or whatever to send mail and use you're work address, but receive mail from a different server [06:30] if you have a different server... [06:30] also, does exchange deny pop3 access? (i really have no idea) [06:30] fuzzix (~fuzzix@93.107.6.180) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:31] i like to think of it as POP3M [06:31] what is an openchrome driver? [06:31] Zordrak, what's a POP3M? [06:31] j0z (~lhp@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: [06:32] POP3.. but sliged and diced by Microsoft until it no longer conforms to the RFCRs and therefore cannot truthfully be called POP3 [06:32] Microsoft's version of pop3? [06:32] oh, ok [06:32] Kowalczyk, try to dig around that exchange thing... [06:33] what a stupid name for a mailserver anyway.... [06:34] zux1wrk: what, exchange? [06:34] Zordrak: I have no choice. need outlook for reservation of rooms and stuff like that [06:34] Kowalczyk: pff [06:34] Zordrak, yes [06:34] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:35] thunderbird+lightsmthng <- sunbird as IMAP client for exchange [06:35] do tha same [06:36] i believe Kmail whould do too [06:36] agris, can it actually connect to an axchange server? [06:36] e [06:36] it can as IMAP and that lightning or whatever was that -> understands exchange's meeting requests and displays them properly [06:37] at least in ealry tb 2.0 versions [06:37] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [06:38] agris, i had problems with that [06:38] some features where not working [06:39] like when the other part changes the time of meeting [06:39] ok [06:40] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:42] fuzzix (~fuzzix@93.107.146.160) joined ##slackware. [06:45] ick. sunbird still doesn't have 'click and drag' for creating new appointments [06:45] ananke: it does.. [06:45] try day or week view [06:46] argh, it does for its internal calendar, but when i switch to my zimbra one, it doesn't do it. same view [06:46] odd [06:47] Axius (~fd@92.84.9.99) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:47] Axius (~fd@92.84.9.99) joined ##slackware. [06:48] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [06:48] and now it's going nuts over past meetings, it wants me to either snooze or dismiss, but clicking on either doesn't do anything, the only thing that works is closing the window. it's a shame, anytime i come back to sunbird, something doesn't work quite right [06:49] ananke: what ver you on? [06:50] lightning has a 1.0b available.. dont know if sunbird does [06:50] -0.9-6.6.x86_64 [06:50] icarus (~tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:50] sluckxz (~sluckxz@unaffiliated/sluckxz) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:50] NetrixTardis (~leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:50] NetrixTardis (~leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) joined ##slackware. [06:51] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:52] Axius (~fd@92.84.9.99) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:53] Axius (~fd@92.84.9.99) joined ##slackware. [06:54] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [06:54] argh. 'lightning could not be installed, because it's not compatible with your build of thunderbird'. awesome [06:56] goarilla_ (~goarilla@91.178.159.200) joined ##slackware. [06:56] goarilla (~goarilla@unaffiliated/goarilla) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:56] Hello [06:56] i'm still happy that i can manage meetings from my phone [06:56] Prismo, a windows problem? [06:57] naw [06:57] am on a mac [06:58] how do you think, adding an extra field to /etc/passwd is an easy task? [06:58] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:59] zux1wrk: what are you trying to accomplish by that? [06:59] water [07:00] dovecot allow or deny login by ip address [07:00] It's possible to allow a user to authenticate only from a specific IP or network. This is especially useful for master users. This can be done by returning allow_nets extra field in passdb. [07:00] I've start fluxbox and the screen is wighte and the text is not visible. can someone help me? [07:00] lol [07:00] sluckxz (~sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [07:01] zux1wrk: i wouldn't bother trying to use /etc/passwd for that, since god knows what may break afterwards. external database ought to be used [07:01] I have a human skeleton [07:01] yeah, but i'm speaking about a working mailserver, that uses system users [07:02] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [07:03] the only other solution i see is well if dovecot could read 2 passwd files... but this gets complicated [07:03] icarus (~tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [07:04] why not just restrict access to the port to the ips you want to allow [07:04] Treu [07:05] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:06] Skywise, couse i need to allow access from anywhere to some users [07:06] and access only from lan to other users [07:06] hmm, but i think i read the dovecot examples wrong... [07:06] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:07] guys [07:07] do u know if encrypting using the gpg from slack is the most current [07:07] and do u know if is needed to update [07:09] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [07:10] do u know if encrypting using the gpg from slack is the most current [07:10] zux1wrk, you might could do something with inetd [07:10] hello everyone :) [07:12] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. [07:12] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Quit: edman007_ [07:12] or you could configure a daemon for the lan side with its own acl and a netside with its own [07:13] do u know if encrypting using the gpg from slack is the most current [07:14] AcEg33k (~prashant@122.172.23.6) joined ##slackware. [07:14] Prismo: look at the version numbers.. and whine elsewhere [07:14] Prismo: huh ? [07:14] snL20, he's just trolling [07:14] http://s763.photobucket.com/albums/xx275/monstabog/?action=view¤t=newdesk1.png anyone that know something about conky? how did he get the slackware linux logo in conky? or is that a part of the background? hmm. looks like it is in the conky [07:14] Skywise: aaah! [07:17] Axius (~fd@92.84.9.99) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:17] snL20 don't listen to him [07:17] Skywise respect me [07:18] Axius (~fd@92.84.9.99) joined ##slackware. [07:18] i'm watching this show on about this ship called the spirit of africa which is apparently trawling for diamonds on the seafloor [07:18] africa diamons [07:19] what cracks me up is that its obviously a fraud [07:19] england was a thief [07:19] they made their wealth off cheating and stealing [07:19] Capitalism is not the way [07:19] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:19] this is something u never heard b4, until 1962 [07:19] James____ (~benjsh@h92n5-m-sp-gr1.ias.bredband.telia.com) left irc: [07:19] theres no shortage of diamonds, as a matter of fact its more believeable that they're burying diamonds instead of getting them [07:19] the mayor companmy exploting of diadons and gold in africa was legally English [07:20] all other companies were assaulted bombed [07:20] ur being victim of the media Skywise [07:20] Prismo: talk about slackware. talk sanely. else leave. [07:20] Zordrak, you may be asking too much [07:20] I get this when I try to uzip a file:tar: This does not look like a tar archive tar: Skipping to next header tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors [07:21] Axius: zip != tar [07:21] you need to use unzip or gunzip to unzip a zip file [07:21] I this command tar xfv filename. [07:22] xvzf [07:22] what is the name of the file? [07:22] that only works for tar files [07:22] xf86-video-openchrome-0.2.903.tar.bz2 [07:23] ffs you moron [07:23] what version of tar? you may have to specify the compression type: "tar -jxvf xf86-video-openchrome-0.2.903.tar.bz2" [07:23] tar -xvjf [07:23] you wanna use xjf or just zf [07:23] er xf [07:23] and f has to be the LAST param [07:24] i've been told modern tar can detect when its compressed [07:24] Skywise: good practice to teach them to specify it [07:24] yeah, thats what i said, but it wasn't very popular [07:26] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. 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[08:03] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [08:03] commercial pushing "creditfairy.org" for free resources to help you with your credit score - like pay your bills ontime and don't charge your groceries on your credit card [08:04] uh. k. [08:04] gorox (~gorox@79.85.166.114) joined ##slackware. [08:05] Axius (~fd@92.84.9.99) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:05] gorox (~gorox@79.85.166.114) left irc: Client Quit [08:07] Nimrod (~ikar@176.64.202.84.customer.cdi.no) joined ##slackware. [08:07] hi [08:09] woo. 32.7 x86_64 kernel&modules built in 10m22 [08:10] custom kernel? [08:10] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.69.107) joined ##slackware. [08:11] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [08:11] ftry5564 (~shaun@41.26.191.99) joined ##slackware. [08:13] aye [08:14] what did you use to make it? [08:16] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:16] Zordrak: nice [08:16] thrice`: um. make.. [08:16] :) [08:17] hah [08:17] Zordrak, seems slow :> try "make -j4 all && make modules_install" or so :) [08:17] jhw_ (~jhw@p5B3E7F14.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:17] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E7F14.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:18] this was -j11 on quad xeon with raid10 SAS [08:18] no HT though [08:18] oh, nevermind ;) [08:19] my c2d builds my custom in ~5 mins :P [08:20] thrice`: do you compile FS/ata in or initrd? [08:20] hi Ive like to know where is every1 from [08:20] Zordrak, nope. how big is your kernel? [08:20] Prismo, from the internets [08:20] Prismo: wait.. this isn't hell? oh. just seems like it since you arrived [08:20] thrice`: 2.3M [08:20] thrice`: ext4 compiled in [08:21] Prismo: why are you no longer called Patero-ng? Afraid you'll get kicked again? [08:21] strange [08:21] intel ESB and MegaRAID compiled in [08:21] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:21] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:23] Nimrod (~ikar@176.64.202.84.customer.cdi.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:24] sahk0 (~grbzks@ppp089210108061.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:24] sahk0 (~grbzks@ppp089210108061.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Changing host [08:24] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:25] aw nips [08:25] bootfail [08:28] wish i could remember the command to display which compiled-in drivers hardware is using [08:28] dive :D [08:29] Zordrak: lspci -v will show [08:30] that shows what hardware is installed - not which driver it's using if it's builtin [08:31] alisonken1noc: no he's right.. the info is there [08:31] "kernel driver in use: " [08:31] alienBOB: thx.. dont know why i forgot that [08:31] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. [08:32] ah - missed the -v [08:32] <|slackin|> GOOOOOOOD Morning Urban Terror! Much love to all tha dont h4ck! <3 [08:35] snow_man (~nou@24-181-102-207.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:35] awffs i *didnt* compile in megaraid_sas.. its m.. dont know haw i missed it [08:38] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [08:39] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@85.217.253.135) left irc: Quit: Of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most... 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[08:54] break19 (~break19@c-67-177-67-170.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:55] ftry5564 (~shaun@41.26.191.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [08:59] thrice`: is that time following an mrproper.. or just a recompile? [08:59] Zordrak, my time? an un-tar, cp my_config linux-2.6.x.x/.config, "time make -j4 all && make modules_install" [09:00] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: armoça [09:00] thrice`: why specify all? [09:01] mm, maybe old habits. it's not needed to build the modules and image? [09:01] not since the mid 20s somewhere i think [09:01] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:208:21a:80ff:fee1:9f75) joined ##slackware. [09:02] mm, ok [09:02] ive added in the megaraid_sas and stripped out even more bits n bobs... still doing 11 jobs... fingers crossd for around 8 mins [09:03] the F? [09:03] just rebooted itself [09:03] bet its that damn watchdog [09:03] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:05] if not then im worried [09:09] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:10] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.215.127) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:11] FRSoldier (frsoldier@212.78.0.2) joined ##slackware. [09:14] Breech_ (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [09:16] It's possibile to install slackware on an usb flash drive and then install it on hdd? Where can I find site for more info? [09:17] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-220-202.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:17] do you put the installer on a usb? [09:18] Axius, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=slackware+usb [09:18] zux, yes, I want to put the installer on an usb. [09:20] thrice`: 7m11 [09:22] Axius (~hi@109.97.62.242) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:22] STILL 2.3M [09:24] that's pretty nifty. I haven't been able to get much under 2.7M [09:24] initrd? [09:26] hell no [09:27] everything i need for boot is compiled in [09:27] and it just booted successfully :) [09:28] 44M used ram (which includes rpc.portmap and rpc.statd) [09:29] vehn_z1 (~vehn_z@62.133.181.122) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [09:31] Zordrak, cool :> [09:31] Zordrak: nice! [09:31] nice [09:32] stef_208 (~stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [09:32] im killing a few remaining rcs to see what i can drop it to :) [09:33] I think mine is about 2.4M, and I can't figure out a way to trim any more [09:33] thrice`: keep digging :) [09:33] wireless/wimax/bluetooth if not already [09:34] all FSes that arent in use.. [09:34] video drivers..scsi drivers, mdraid [09:34] but, to be honest, I"m not that great at compiling kernels. Usually I get a config and re-use it again and again [09:35] damn.. cant get under 44M :) [09:35] would have to disable sshd and that aint happening :) [09:36] one day, I will learn to compile/tweak my own kernel :P [09:36] The kernel is 2299K and the whole modules tree is 33936K [09:40] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:40] question: can i make /var/cache/* tmpfs? [09:40] (not can as in mount options, but as in will it harm my system's health?) [09:42] anyone clued up on gconf that knows where to set the default browser? [09:42] off-topic - not has slackbuild to modsecurity? how compile it in slack 13? [09:42] nick4b (~nick4b@77.49.252.96.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Quit: nick4b [09:42] i cant decdide if i can safely disable d-bus.. [09:42] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: see y'all [09:42] Delahunt: the contents of var/cache are expected to surive a restart [09:42] GooseYArd, thanks [09:43] best not [09:43] dive um i think i saw a gconf2 thing on it once, i remember setting it back when i used gnome [09:44] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-130.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:46] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:50] Delahunt, there is a gconf gui editor on SBo but it has a list of deps as long as my arm. I searched for browser using cli tool but it doesn't find it. [09:50] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. [09:51] dive, sorry i only remember using the gconf2 gui tool [09:51] Action: Delahunt almost has as many entries in /etc/fstab for tmpfs as for his real filesystems [09:53] Intel_BG (~intel@95.43.13.153) joined ##slackware. [09:55] Where can I find msttcorefonts for slackware? [09:55] whats the list? [09:55] oops that was re Delahunt [09:55] tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults,size=1% 0 0 [09:56] tmpfs /home/robert/.cache tmpfs rw,gid=1000,uid=100,size=16m,mode=755 [09:56] tmpfs /home/robert/.java tmpfs rw,gid=1000,uid=100,size=1m,mode=755 [09:56] tmpfs /home/robert/.cache tmpfs rw,gid=1000,uid=100,size=16m,mode=755 [09:56] tmpfs /home/robert/.java tmpfs rw,gid=1000,uid=100,size=1m,mode=755 [09:56] tmpfs /home/robert/.macromedia tmpfs rw,gid=100,uid=1000,size=10m,mode=755 [09:56] seriously [09:56] Delahunt: pastebin is a good thing [09:57] er oops some repeats 8-S [09:57] please use a pastebin, of course [09:57] the russians read your datarz on pastebin [09:57] chb (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [09:59] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:59] pfft [09:59] Action: Delahunt could care less who reads his pastebin [10:02] GooseYArd, ideas? recommendations? [10:02] Action: Delahunt is, btw, using ext4 and luks+lvm setup on his netbook because the half-life of this 16gb internal ssd mini-pcie exceeds the lifetime of his netbook [10:03] well im not sure whats in some of those [10:03] if .cache is browser cache, it'd be a pain in the ass to have to rebuild it after every restart [10:03] .cache: session stuff and thunar thumbnails [10:03] speaking of which, ~/.thumbnails too [10:03] no i'm not doing that to browser cache, for firefox that's in ~/.mozilla [10:03] Delahunt: + you dont want to get busted with all that CP [10:04] snL20, no that's you 8-) [10:04] same for .macromedia and .java, if flash or java objects are reused across sessions, Id leave it [10:04] Delahunt: lol [10:04] Action: Delahunt has tax returns [10:04] Delahunt: noone cares about your tax returns [10:04] GooseYArd, java and flash objects, only worth caching if you really *need* to play youtube stuff 24/7 (or for snl20 when he is surfing pr0n) [10:05] Delahunt: people surf pr0n ? [10:05] i dont believe that [10:06] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.212.13) joined ##slackware. [10:06] but depending on the type of work you do on the computer, I wouldnt dispute it [10:06] see like for youtube when you play a video it has to download the player [10:06] so if you play movies rarely, you won't notice it as much (downloading the player every time) [10:06] if you do a lot, and multiple websites also, you will notice [10:07] right but on the other hand, I would happily trade 6mb of disk for my flash cache for the ram [10:07] You could also feed the youtube URL to VLC - it will play the video which is embedded in the page without the need to download a player [10:08] alienBOB: nice.... I've only used youtube-dl [10:08] Action: pupit Delahunt 0, alienBOB 1 [10:08] Intel_BG (intel@95.43.13.153) left ##slackware. [10:08] :D [10:08] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [10:08] alienBOB, i don't like gxine or vlc [10:08] Delahunt: yeah, apparently you like flash [10:08] the speed advantage of tmpfs is overrated unless frequent syncing is required, since vfs caching is going to be effective for application-cache type usage [10:09] :D [10:09] woo. Down to 41M RAM after turning hald off [10:09] heh [10:10] Zordrak: eh, if I turned of hal my X would stop working =) [10:10] snL20: same here... [10:12] GooseYArd, to me it's not about speed [10:12] it's about preventing some of the unnecessary caching to hard drive [10:13] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [10:13] it's one thing to try *too* hard to limit write cycles (like the eee xandros with its separate rw and ro partitions and krap) and not try at all [10:13] With a SSD that makes sense [10:13] alienBOB, i now have a 16gb ssd so i have luks+lvm and kde like yours [10:14] alienBOB, if you didn't notice, i cached your build area [10:14] alienBOB, but for some reason ffmpeg 0.5 does NOT like to build using your script [10:14] snL20: not with an xorg.conf it wouldnt [10:14] (i did that because i'm using -current now) [10:14] snL20: but in any case this is a headless server [10:14] alienBOB: any idea how much core bits use D-Bus? [10:15] Delahunt: my ffmpeg.SlackBuild is for the development version of ffmpeg [10:15] Since ffmpeg-0.5 a lot has changed [10:15] diegoOS (diegoOS@187.40.163.75) joined ##slackware. [10:15] I can checkout the SlackBuild for 0.5 if you need it [10:16] Zordrak: without dbus your comp would basically be dead [10:16] diegoOS (diegoOS@187.40.163.75) left ##slackware. [10:16] alienBOB: tk, thanks [10:16] *gtk [10:16] looks like 41M is as low as I go :) [10:16] alienBOB, yeah i noticed afterwards [10:16] alienBOB, what netbook do you have? [10:16] Eeepc 1000H [10:17] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:18] alienBOB, you using that kde4 plasma netbook shell? [10:19] alienBOB, hmm i'd offer to help test for you but it appears ours are too much alike 8-) [10:19] Action: Delahunt has a 900a [10:20] dive :D [10:20] i have dbus disabled on all server boxes, everything works. WAIDR? [10:20] guax: yes, but it takes a little getting used to [10:20] humm [10:21] didnt tested it yet, not very confortable to upgrade to 4.4 [10:21] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [10:21] hello [10:21] is anyone aware of a slackbuild (however dirty) for samba4? [10:21] I like to know where can I donwload slackware [10:21] Delahunt: there is nothing to test - except for the very latest netbooks [10:21] Prismo, read the topic [10:21] Prismo, http://slackware.com/getslack/ [10:21] Prismo: should I finally ban you from the channel? [10:21] Breech_ (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:22] alienBOB: please [10:22] negative [10:22] slava_dp: Prismo has been here for ages as Patero-ng - he's justtt trolliiiing [10:22] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:22] what was his new nick yesterday? [10:23] I am tracking him with a cookie on his computer - Prismo or Patero-ng... he can not escape me [10:23] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [10:23] ah you're using the device? [10:23] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:23] I'm a little uncomfortable with the legal ramifications of that [10:24] Axius (~hi@92.84.12.200) joined ##slackware. [10:24] Action: Zordrak hands GooseYArd a cushion [10:24] alienBOB, well if i'm ever rich i'll get one of those expensive sony models ll [10:24] s/ll/lol/ [10:24] oh Zordrak , re samba4, did you discover plethora of libraries they've released? :) [10:25] it looked like a pain in the ass to make [10:25] not discovered much yet [10:25] i did a test compile and seemed to make pretty quickly [10:25] just need to work through the configure options etc [10:26] Zordrak: its using 41mb ram ? [10:27] yup. on a 2.6.32.7 kernel on Slackware64-current [10:27] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-38-85.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:27] Zordrak: nice.. I'm using 56 on my firewall/router [10:27] lol [10:28] Axius (~hi@92.84.12.200) left irc: Client Quit [10:28] Zordrak: of course 47 is cached :P [10:29] now that you've got all that free ram, what are you going to do with it? [10:29] GooseYArd: he's going to give it to bill gates ? [10:29] of course 41m doesnt include buf/cache.. [10:29] can I run some unit test cases on your machine? [10:29] 169 including them [10:30] GooseYArd: uuumm.. no. :) [10:31] Zordrak: my router/firewall is using about 8mb ram then =) [10:31] snL20: much more appropriate [10:31] I'm anxious to get some of those 8 core cpus [10:31] dgoo (diegoOS@187.40.163.75) joined ##slackware. [10:31] why? [10:31] more cores is not better for all purposes [10:32] so I won't have to sit around waiting for things at work [10:32] Masterx831 (~4121b21c@gateway/web/freenode/x-usymmbvwflpkoway) joined ##slackware. [10:32] why not? [10:32] Think "Tim 'The Toolman' Taylor" being a computer geek [10:32] hey all have any of you experience an invinceable mouse on slackware 13.0 [10:32] lol I'm using kde [10:32] "More Power!" [10:32] Zordrak: most of my down time at the office is sitting around waiting for shit to build [10:32] it was working fine until i reboot the system [10:33] alisonken1home: because more cores doesnt mean more power if the cores are shitty and mont of the stuff you do is single-threaded [10:33] Nick change: KB1JWQ -> PFY [10:33] but if they arent shitty and your work is parallelizable, they are de-luxe [10:34] which is exactly why i want some [10:34] Zordrak: and? as Tim says: "More Power" - don't need a reason :) [10:34] just "More Power" [10:34] alisonken1home: yes my 2nd place reason would be getting to unbox something sparkly [10:34] :) [10:34] Nick change: PFY -> KB1JWQ [10:34] besides, more cores mean more geek points [10:35] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-222-187.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [10:35] heh [10:35] My desktop has one of those new i7's in it. four hyperthreaded cores [10:36] but if I was a doofus, that would have been helpful advice [10:36] those look neat [10:36] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [10:37] fsdflk/.dsf [10:37] winger (~E@96.56.22.60) joined ##slackware. [10:37] Considering that the last computer I used as a desktop was a P4... [10:37] i think im just going to get a rack mount box with a bunch of opterons and stash it under my desk [10:37] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:37] Masterx831: command not found [10:39] Reaver1 (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [10:39] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:39] GooseYArd: why settle for 8 ? http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20100215231002_AMD_s_Twelve_Core_Microprocessors_Available_for_Sale.html [10:40] get a 32-core SPARC.. and wait for 8 years as you untar a 1G archive [10:40] GooseYArd: if you were paying attention you would know why i did this [10:40] laj: ooh hot [10:41] Masterx831: is that an obscure vi command? :) [10:41] Axius (~hi@92.84.12.200) joined ##slackware. [10:41] newbie2010 (~newbie201@41.252.26.240) joined ##slackware. [10:41] hello ladies [10:41] hey baby [10:42] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:42] Masterx831 (~4121b21c@gateway/web/freenode/x-usymmbvwflpkoway) left irc: Quit: Page closed [10:42] where are all the QOTD saved on slackware 13 [10:43] newbie2010: the fortune application [10:43] i think "man fortune" mentions it [10:43] /usr/share/games/fortunes [10:44] plus you can create your own as well [10:44] yes it does ,,,, merci [10:44] yw [10:44] Dominian: how about making a converter for noobfarm so we can have a noobfarm fortune file? [10:44] what i really need is how access ther recent ones [10:44] mario (mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [10:44] alisonken1home: hrm? [10:44] Axius (~hi@92.84.12.200) left irc: Client Quit [10:45] Dominian: export noobfarm to a fortune file [10:45] newbie2010: they are chosen randomly, so if you are looking for a specific fortune, my best advice would be to cat the individual fortune file and grep for what you are looking for [10:45] hang on ill hack rss into fortune [10:45] know what else would be cool? a "random quote" function on noobfarm [10:46] alisonken1home, i've got a noobfarmer, i accidently formatted my 1.5tb drive that was _full_ ? [10:46] thrice`: already been discussed - just not available yet [10:46] doh! [10:46] alisonken1home: hrm.. I think someone already had a way of doing that.. [10:47] does slack12 come with a pkg/program that monitors network activity? [10:47] winger: iptraf [10:47] cli or kde? [10:47] tcpdump [10:47] Axius (~hi@92.84.12.200) joined ##slackware. [10:47] alison: if your asking me, im using kde [10:47] iptraf and tcpdump.. let me look em up [10:47] kde has several network traffic monitors in it somewhere [10:47] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:48] havent used slack in a long time lol.. still on slack 12.. whats the latest? 13.1? [10:48] 13.0 [10:48] but 13.1 is on the horizon somewhere [10:48] i remember 13.1 RC being out? [10:48] you do? [10:48] winger: not yet [10:48] guess im wrong [10:48] other than -current [10:49] -current is actually doing rather good (i use it on all 3 laptops) and the kde seems to be a hack of a lot more stable [10:49] yep [10:49] and someone (alien?) has kde4.4 packages for -current that several people have said is nice [10:50] yup theyre bobs [10:50] Rix (~rix@87-126-175-43.btc-net.bg) left irc: Quit: No One Lives Forever [10:50] i have a mixed signal silicon engineer using it right now and im using it on my desktop. truly awesome. [10:50] even getting windows users wanting to know if they can have slack now [10:50] :) [10:51] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.66.49) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:51] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.28.236) joined ##slackware. [10:52] see? bling and eye candy can be good :) [10:52] now if only slack would ship some [10:52] especially when you have the cube to switch desktops and people freak when they see it [10:53] ardya: that's what sbo is for :) [10:53] shyeah, thats what gentoo and fbsd are for haha [10:53] Action: Delahunt doesn't care about eye candy, he wants a snappy OS 8-) [10:53] sorry - not into S&M [10:53] Action: Zordrak has both [10:53] (gentoo and fbsd) [10:53] sitwon (~adam@pool-173-79-58-49.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:53] Action: Delahunt loves S&M (Symphonica and Metallica) [10:54] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [10:55] Action: slackie hi there \o [10:55] Slave & Master...hey Delahunt [10:55] Nick change: stef_208 -> stef_204 [10:56] lol [10:57] guys i'm confused wether mkfs can make ntfs filesystem or not [10:57] newbie2010: check ntfs-3g tools [10:57] not mkfs [10:57] i was trying this ... mkfs -f -v -t ntfs /dev/sda1 [10:57] personally I'd use MS tools t make ntfs, ymmv [10:58] alisonken1home: i used mkntfs without problems on slackware but the is that i'm using another bootble small gentoo cd [10:58] mkfs is a wrapper i think [10:58] it has only mkfs on it [10:58] well then, can't help you with the gentoo stuff then [10:58] so if someone created wrapper mkntfs or mkfs.ntfs [10:58] what i read is i have to make mkfs then fsck something [10:59] i think they may be an alias, not sure (as in mkfs.ext4 = mkfs -t ext4) [10:59] welcome to wrapper which is another brand new term in my world [10:59] is mkfs.exta the command? [11:00] is there a linux executable file called that way? [11:00] is mkfs.ext4* the command? [11:00] try "mkfs. as root [11:00] did you look? [11:00] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:01] Action: Delahunt wonders if ram uses less memory than solid state hard drives [11:01] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [11:01] i read about mkfs.ext2,3,4 and mkfs.ntfs but it didn't make any sense beside what i was trying to do is making ntfs fs [11:02] thrice`: thanks for the tip ... i'll try that once i'm booted [11:03] actually, it's the other way around - mkfs is a wrapper that calls the mkfs.{type} based on the -t option [11:03] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:03] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:04] Delahunt: not really - requires a driver either way [11:04] er, if ram uses less power than solid state drives [11:04] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-26-72.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:04] sorry, wrong thing [11:04] :) [11:06] newbie2010: for ext4: mkfs -t ext4 actually calls mkfs.ext4 to create the fs [11:06] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-17.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [11:06] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [11:07] so the {type} .ext4 is an external library or what? [11:07] Delahunt: I would guess that system ram, being synnchronous, uses more power [11:07] thats pure speculation [11:08] GooseYArd: not necessarily - and synchronous has nothing to do with how much power memory takes [11:09] alisonken1home: it does, because the clock strobe is synchronous, it has to happen constantly [11:09] synchronous is an access method - and ssd's use clock cycles as well [11:10] is the non-cache memory battery backed? [11:11] F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:11] what I'm saying is that access method is a strawman argument for power requirements [11:11] im not talking about the access method [11:11] synchronous is an access method - not a power design [11:11] I'm talking about whether the memory is clocked [11:11] all this talk of straw men in popular culture makes me think some people are living in Oz, mentally at least 8-) [11:12] ALL memory is clocked - and your talking about something different than what Delahunt is talking about [11:12] all memory interfaces are clocked [11:13] how does power management work with ram and ssd then? the clock still runs but it is throttled? [11:13] BooseYArd: and btw - I was working on computers that predated IC chips, so I think I might know a little bit about them [11:13] but I can stop supplying power to a piece of flash memory and not lose the contents [11:14] ram is clocked due to the type of circuitry used and refresh requirements - ssd's are clocked only when accessed/written to, but depending on the IC may or may not require continuous power to maintain state [11:14] i apologize for butchering the terminology [11:15] but the last sentence you wrote there was the basis of my speculation [11:15] i tried google, honest, but didn't get the results i wanted [11:15] Delahunt: yeah, power requirements for ram v. ssd is a fuzzy area due to the differences in application and materials [11:15] if I'm not having to constantly refresh say, 128gb memory, a hunch tells me it'd require less power than say 4gb of ram operating at some high frequency [11:16] 128gb of some flash-type memory [11:16] hmm hdparm -B /dev/sda (mini-PCIe ssd 16gb) says apm not supported (i can see that sort of, since there is no such thing as spin-down but alas....) [11:16] as for security erase i'm surprised there's not a way on ssd mini-pcie to do it almost instantaneously (shunt everything to power or to ground depending on which erases)? [11:17] the problem is the current ssd setup write/erase cycles - so shunting to ground wouldn't do it [11:17] Action: Delahunt shrugs [11:17] it's not like ssd's are typical j/k flip flops or anything :) [11:18] yeah that's what came to my mind first, the flip flop [11:18] Axius (~hi@92.84.12.200) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:18] if you want to trip on something, look up core memory :) [11:18] that's where my electronics training in the military ended, we didn't get to go to the advanced circuitry stuff (we got AND/XOR stuff too) [11:18] then imagine threading it [11:18] Action: Delahunt goes to google [11:19] threading it ? [11:19] Delahunt likes to shrug I think :) he shrugged yesterday too [11:19] like magnetic core memory? [11:19] core memory is a magnet with a hole in the middle - and 3 wires: x, y, and sense [11:19] ah [11:19] imagine threading it? manufacturing it? [11:19] and the clock cycle has to be timed correctly because you actually change the polarity of the magnet depending on a 0 or a 1 getting stored [11:20] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_core_memory [11:20] picture about 1/2 way down [11:20] yeah hold on [11:20] shyko (~shyko@187.39.212.183) joined ##slackware. [11:20] shyko (~shyko@187.39.212.183) left irc: Changing host [11:20] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [11:21] it was made by machines, correct? [11:21] used to work on a computer that used 32K ram in 5 banks of 8 (30-bit words +spare) [11:21] no - hand threaded [11:21] :o [11:21] 5 planes of 8 bits, rather [11:22] nick4b (~nick4b@77.49.252.96.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:22] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:23] is there any CLI web browser that shows pages the way they look on normal browser? [11:23] nope [11:23] lynx doesn't show the pictures [11:23] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:23] newbie2010: none in the CLI family does [11:23] that's the beauty of lynx and links [11:24] well then alisonken1home , your big chance to kill microsoft :) [11:24] hah [11:24] people who use MS think a computer is useless without a mouse [11:24] stef_204 (~stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:24] and with MS, it pretty much is [11:24] alisonken1home: Heh, because on windows it is [11:24] (useless, even with a mousee) [11:25] w3m can show pictures, elinks too afaik and you can use gtk on directfb [11:25] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [11:25] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [11:26] i want lynx with ascii-art pictures [11:27] zeroXzero (~zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) joined ##slackware. [11:28] zeroXzero (~zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:28] alisonken1home, yep [11:28] alisonken1home, mac users too [11:29] zeroXzero (~zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) joined ##slackware. [11:30] zeroXzero (~zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) left irc: Client Quit [11:30] zerox0 (~zxz@117.196.129.152) joined ##slackware. [11:30] zerox0 (~zxz@117.196.129.152) left irc: Client Quit [11:30] kl4uy (~nick4b@79.103.26.64.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:31] nick4b (~nick4b@77.49.252.96.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:32] zux1wrk (~zux@80.232.209.242) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:32] zeroXzero (~zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) joined ##slackware. [11:34] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.43) joined ##slackware. [11:34] ok cli wizards how to grep a line or two above and under the target word in a pipped grep command? [11:34] newbie2010: man grep [11:35] real men to read man files [11:35] real men don't* read man files [11:35] well you're not a real man .. so start reading. [11:35] man grep and pay attention to the Context Line Control section [11:35] no kidding, quit being a lazy piece of shit [11:36] oh sorry [11:36] I love your grammer thrice` hehehe [11:36] dtanner (~dtanner@24.174.7.64) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:36] echo 1 > /dev/thrice/kindness [11:36] 8-) [11:36] dtanner (~dtanner@24.174.7.64) joined ##slackware. [11:36] lol [11:37] dtanner, sup? [11:37] newbie2010, grammAr? what's wrong with it? [11:37] newbie2010: i do not think you are in any position to critacise one's grammar [11:37] newbie2010, seriously, coming in with "I'm a real man, so I don't need the manpage - how do I use grep" is rediculous [11:37] speaking of spelling nazi's now ..... [11:37] thrice`: man english grammer, stop being a lazy punk [11:37] you spell nazis like this [11:38] 8-) 8-P [11:38] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-26-72.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:38] Delahunt: s/$/\./ [11:38] Delahunt: :) drives my wife crazy when I do things like that [11:38] it's "grammar," with an A, if you're going to criticize. also, I'm a native speaker [11:38] lol [11:39] especially when she has to keep asking me how to spell things - and I intentionally mispronounce them to make a point [11:39] anyone who thinks you need an entropy engine for randomness hasn't babysat 3 yr olds [11:39] newbie2010: considering you're asking for help, start acting civilised or gtfo, thanks. [11:39] Delahunt, sorry, people like that don't get kind responses. if he were to say "I'm trying to find this usage in the manpage, but don't understand," another story [11:39] native speaker or microphone who cares ! [11:39] thrice`, don't apologize, i accidentally shut it off 8-) [11:39] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:208:21a:80ff:fee1:9f75) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:40] gtfo phrag [11:40] Delahunt: lol @ entropy [11:40] ##slackware: mode change '+o phrag' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [11:41] phrag: no one asked you any to help anyway .. you're less than helping yourself how about helping others !! [11:41] ##slackware: mode change '+q newbie2010!*@*' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [11:42] and you were critiquing my english? [11:42] ...others helped. [11:43] phrag (phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [11:43] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [11:43] newbie2010, if you don't stop biting the hand that feeds (and/or feeding yourself) you're never going to be able to change nickname away from ones containing the word newbie [11:43] couldn't just deop? :P [11:43] NaCl: no, i cycled for a reason [11:44] ok, just curious [11:44] =) [11:44] perfect entropy engine: 3 yr old playing out doors with a body sensor kit [11:45] tons of random input to be found there [11:45] gopnnik (~gopnnik@195.88.242.70) joined ##slackware. [11:45] we had everything upstairs and my 3 yr old wants to go downstairs so i have tons of things to carry downstairs including my eee [11:45] Action: Delahunt is caring for sick 3 yr old [11:45] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.28.236) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:46] Nick change: Matt___ -> Matt [11:47] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.69.107) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [11:49] so this newbie2010 guy, i'm guess is a troll. He's been in here for quite some time now, eh? [11:49] he's not a troll [11:49] ./list trolls <-- we need that. :D [11:50] agentc0re, my list brings up quite a number of people in here [11:50] jeev: pastebin? [11:50] he doesn't fail the Voight-Kampff test 8-) [11:50] agentc0re, too lazy. im remotely connected, my copy/paste wont work. [11:50] ah [11:51] gazwald (~gazl@cpc3-basf8-2-0-cust420.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:52] I'll summarize: jeev, jeev_, jeev__, jeevs_hot_sister [11:52] FRSoldier (frsoldier@212.78.0.2) left irc: [11:52] nope [11:52] although you did just make the list! [11:53] :) [11:53] vldmr (1000@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [11:54] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [11:55] newbie2010 (newbie201@41.252.26.240) left ##slackware. [11:56] Delahunt: to live in fear is to be a slave --roy batty :) [11:56] alisonken1home, msg ? [11:56] gnubien, k [11:56] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:57] Delahunt: sure [11:59] kl4uy (~nick4b@79.103.26.64.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:01] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:02] Action: alreadygone is googling troll [12:03] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.109.141) joined ##slackware. [12:03] nv4Phil (~phil@adsl-156-27-71.bna.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:05] zeroXzero (zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:06] alreadygone: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll [12:06] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling [12:07] j0z (~lhp@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [12:07] thanks :) [12:09] this site has nice t-shirt ads :p [12:09] greetings... I am having video driver trouble while trying to use my 1280x1024 VGA monitor on my laptop... [12:10] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:10] when using the default settings (ie, loading X without an xorg.conf) it loads a partial display on the VGA monitor, and a full display on the laptop, and identified each monitor as being both devices. [12:10] when I installed an ATI slackpackage I happened to have on my drive from back in the day, it began to allow my monitor to use 1024x768, giving me full display. But I want the monitor to use 1280x1024 ... [12:10] when I go to System Settings --> Display , everything flickers and goes to heck. I tried modifying a vesa xorg.conf, and that didn't help. [12:10] sorry for the mouthful lol... any ideas? [12:11] mohaa (~nome@92.49.72.121) joined ##slackware. [12:11] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [12:14] manhunter (~manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter) joined ##slackware. [12:15] fallen (~PolarBear@unaffiliated/thefallen) joined ##slackware. [12:16] chowder (~Anon@c-98-211-211-147.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:17] nv4Phil, um where did you get that slackware package? [12:19] Delahunt: I'm not sure, it's honestly been on my laptop since....... . .... before an emergency restore on 2009-02-15, according to its date-stamp... so it's been before that. [12:19] I can't remember [12:19] then you may want to make sure you're using the latest and greatest [12:20] I tried looking on ati.com but I may have been looking in the wrong place... I'm on a Dell Inspiron 1501 laptop. [12:20] i have no experience with ati, sorry that i cannot be of any help [12:21] all the OTHER ati drivers say that they cannot find the Xorg version, and they then halt the installation. [12:21] do you perhaps have any experience with nVidia, so we can fix my desktop problem? on my desktop I am left with a supposedly-good nvidia driver, which only allows 800x600... [12:21] nope sorry [12:22] darn... ah well [12:22] but try using the latest and greatest (reinstall driver) [12:22] what card [12:22] slackware 13? [12:23] Playboy4Gays (~4858eb78@gateway/web/freenode/x-oehhhlcjxeehplad) joined ##slackware. [12:23] Ciao! [12:23] ardya: on my laptop, an ATI chipset... on my desktop, an invidia ... both are giving me trouble ... neither will allow maximum resolution on the VGA port. the ATI laptop even has a conflict between VGA and LCD going on... [12:23] decode 4858eb78 [12:23] ardya: How are you? [12:23] IP: 72.88.235.120 Host: pool-72-88-235-120.nwrknj.east.verizon.net [12:23] well well well [12:23] ardya: I am the EFnet Foe. [12:24] trel me something I dont know [12:24] Very good, you recognize me. :) [12:24] Today, I'm here to ask about Slackware on tablet PCs. :) [12:24] slava_dp (~slava@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:24] sure you are [12:25] Can XFree86 switch display devices without restarting itself? [12:25] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [12:26] fallen (~PolarBear@unaffiliated/thefallen) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [12:26] Playboy4Gays: you should look into xrandr [12:27] chowder (Anon@c-98-211-211-147.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:27] first stop would be man xrandr [12:28] Nick change: Playboy4Gays -> NAACPSupporter [12:28] ah well. I'm gonna run and get something to eat. [12:28] Axius (~fd@92.82.74.237) joined ##slackware. [12:29] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:32] Prismo (~no@174-23-45-45.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: [12:33] manhunter (~manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:34] The fun does begin. [12:34] manhunter (~manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter) joined ##slackware. [12:34] mohaa (~nome@92.49.72.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:35] Nick change: NAACPSupporter -> ILoveNAACP [12:35] longschlong (~Stuffalot@f049035154.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:35] hi friends [12:35] DUCK! [12:35] oh boy! [12:36] ardya: I expect this type of thing out of people from jersey [12:36] My friend told me that niggers are black. [12:36] :) [12:36] Is that true? [12:36] So, I went to the Newark correctional facility today and handed out Slackware install CDs to my brothers in the pen. ;) [12:37] longschlong, welcome to ignore troll [12:37] I went to see Madonna on her new Masturbation tour last night. [12:37] She is so hot. :) [12:38] jkwood (~jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) joined ##slackware. [12:38] I prefer jacking off to the Linux kernel documentation. [12:38] That really gets me hard. [12:38] MADONNA - RAY OF LIGHT talks about New World Order, which makes me horny. [12:38] I can't wait to complete my sex change operations. [12:39] ILoveNAACP, um ##slackware-offtopic please [12:39] Then I'll be able to jack off to Madonna. :) [12:39] What do female niggers and ice hockey players have in common? They both change their pads after 3 periods. [12:39] Okay. [12:39] ##slackware: mode change '+o phrag' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [12:39] longschlong: Better take it to ##slackware-offtopic ;) [12:39] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/x-oehhhlcjxeehplad' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [12:39] ILoveNAACP kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned [12:39] phrag is a nigger [12:39] nigger [12:39] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [12:39] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@f049035154.adsl.alicedsl.de' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [12:39] longschlong kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned [12:39] thanks phrag [12:39] Boy, I pick the best times to come back. [12:39] guys, is the sourcecode used on noobfarm available somewhere? [12:40] sorry, was out shopping =P [12:40] mr-S^b43 (~Mr-S^b32@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:40] sarkoman (~sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [12:40] what an angry young man [12:40] anyone own a Nokia E71 and got calendar/conatct syncing running with it ? [12:41] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-230-181.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:41] It's okay, phrag is also an angry young man. With power. [12:42] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-230-181.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:42] lol, thanks jkwood =P [12:43] jkwood: nice to see you again =) [12:44] jkwood: heya dude, long time no see i guess. :D [12:44] Nice to be here. Just moved to Slackware64, so I figured I'd drop by to harass alienBOB... I mean, say hi. [12:45] is that an elite invite only slackware channel? [12:45] or the distro? heh [12:46] Distro, lol. I decided that my time was worth more than trying to bring my poor Slamd64 system up to date. [12:46] jkwood: lol, took you long enough. I remember you saying you were going to move months ago. :P [12:47] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:47] zomg, a jkwood :) [12:47] Axius (~fd@92.82.74.237) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:47] Axius (~fd@92.82.74.237) joined ##slackware. [12:49] Pardon my sluggish responses, I'm on satellite. [12:51] Reaver1 (Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left ##slackware. [12:54] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424508.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [12:54] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:54] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424508.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:55] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.109.141) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:56] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:56] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) joined ##slackware. [12:56] jkwood in orbit [12:57] Good move jkwood [12:58] I'm liking it so far. I mean, I'm not noticing a ton of difference, but at least I can get updates now. [12:58] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [12:58] jkwood, dialup up? [12:58] Also, might note in future releases that evdev is required for at least some keyboards in KDE. [12:59] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [12:59] No, just straight satellite. At least my latency isn't bad to Dallas. [13:00] nice [13:01] And... I was a noob and deleted my 32-bit dvd image. AH well. [13:01] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) left irc: Quit: GoodBye - See you later [13:03] time to sleep, night. [13:03] alreadygone (~silas@59.103.212.13) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:04] Axius (~fd@92.82.74.237) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:05] Axius (~fd@92.82.74.237) joined ##slackware. [13:07] ssa (~Administr@unaffiliated/sky-1/x-6937507) joined ##slackware. [13:07] how od i remove grub and install lilo ? [13:08] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [13:10] ssa: "find /var/log/packages/ -name lilo*" - minus the quotes [13:10] ssa: that will tell us if lilo is installed or not. [13:11] "ls /var/log/packages | grep lilo" would work better. [13:11] ssa: If it is, man lilo and check your /etc/lilo.conf file to make sure it has the right entries. [13:11] ls /var/log/package/lilo* :-) [13:11] jkwood: potato patato.... [13:12] hmm [13:12] is not [13:12] agentc0re: Actaully, find won't work with wildcards unless you put the name you're looking for in quotes. [13:12] grub is still on mbr [13:13] jkwood: it worked for me. [13:13] it'll work if the glob doesn't get expanded [13:13] i.e. if there is no match [13:13] ssa: what slackware version are you running? [13:13] Or... apparently I'm wrong. [13:13] When did that happen? [13:13] 13.0 x64 [13:13] ssa: use slackpkg to install lilo. [13:14] agentc0re: im on that big 4GB package [13:14] iso [13:14] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-kutgfmryvfbesjvv) left irc: Quit: xMDKx [13:14] i mean [13:14] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:15] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.79.2) joined ##slackware. [13:15] but installing lilo removes the grub ? [13:16] ssa: no, but you have to install lilo to use it. [13:16] Yes. [13:16] ssa: installing the package doesn't remove grub, installing lilo to the mbr will though. [13:17] jkwood: you've been away far too long :P [13:17] how to install lilo from that iso ? [13:17] gazwald (gazl@cpc3-basf8-2-0-cust420.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:17] ssa, if you don't know how to use lilo, wouldn't you be better off sticking with grub? [13:17] Apparently long enough for find to change its behavior. [13:18] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:18] ssa: man lilo like i said. also see /topic and check out the slackbook. there is a second in there on how to use lilo. it's very, very, very simple. [13:18] ill explain you what i made [13:18] manhunter (~manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter) left irc: Read error: No route to host [13:19] ssa: no need really. If you want lilo, just do what i've been telling you to do. :D [13:19] afu (~afu@cba16114.cba.ua.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:19] _hxd (~hxd@unaffiliated/hxd) joined ##slackware. [13:19] i installed arch linux , xorg, vga drivers, grub...ok so everything worked fine....then i burned slack iso and installed it,formated arch partition, installed lilo but when i booted i saw grub 15 error [13:20] sarkoman (~sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:22] sarkoman (~sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [13:22] ssa: did you run lilo command too? You have to do that to write lilo to boot [13:22] you didnt write lilo to mbr [13:22] ah yeah [13:22] so what i need to do now ? [13:23] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:23] Axius (~fd@92.82.74.237) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:23] Did you write it to mbr? [13:23] nessundorma (~mike@78.134.112.59) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:23] no [13:23] obviously not [13:24] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.79.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:25] Boot from rescue disk and change lilo.conf (or whatever it is) to boot from right location. Then run lilo agn [13:25] ive chrooted into that partition and write lilo into mbr hope it will works [13:26] it should [13:26] as long as lilo.conf is correct [13:27] it should [13:27] but it still use grub omg [13:27] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:27] is mbr in your lilo.conf? [13:28] sarkoman (~sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:28] you may need to defraggle your motherdisk [13:28] http://www.datadocktorn.nu/us_frag1.php [13:28] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.49.214) joined ##slackware. [13:28] xsamurai (~fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [13:28] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [13:29] hcfd (~fed@host86-154-184-153.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:29] manhunter (~manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter) joined ##slackware. [13:30] afu (~afu@cba16114.cba.ua.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:30] ssa, did you read the manpage? Especially the -M switch. [13:30] i will use grub so [13:30] Folnin (~Folnin@2001:778:12:24::c0de) joined ##slackware. [13:34] hello [13:35] dgoo (diegoOS@187.40.163.75) left irc: [13:35] fosforo_1 (~fosforo@187.15.74.158) joined ##slackware. [13:36] Man hunter... do you have heads of men on your wall? [13:37] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:38] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.49.214) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:39] sarkoman (~sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [13:40] maybe he's related to Mantracker [13:40] or mandingo [13:40] fosforo_1 (~fosforo@187.15.74.158) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:40] manudo! [13:40] possibly manwallaby [13:40] or mandodo [13:40] hello, manhunter [13:40] sarkoman (~sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Client Quit [13:41] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [13:41] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:41] sarkoman (~sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [13:42] jkwood: be descriptive [13:42] jkwood: what do you mean? [13:42] manhunter: The heads of men you've killed? [13:43] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.74.158) joined ##slackware. [13:43] jkwood: i have only killed you [13:43] I know a guy who has a propeller on his wall. I guess he shot an airplane. [13:43] jkwood, no no, he searches for man pages [13:43] GooseYArd: hi [13:43] Folnin (Folnin@2001:778:12:24::c0de) left ##slackware ("Time makes no sense"). [13:44] diving into sea [13:44] dive dive [13:44] i fixed that and activated lilo in mbr [13:44] jkwood: stop assuming things based upon nicknames, do we assume you have jerky wood ? [13:44] thank you guys for hints [13:44] Axius (~fd@92.82.74.237) joined ##slackware. [13:44] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:45] xsamurai: You're supposed to assume I'm just kidding, of course. [13:45] ssa: Awesome. [13:45] too bad that i forgot to set root password and another user [13:45] xsamurai: i assume that you do ninja porn [13:45] hiya! [13:46] GooseYArd: I train with my sword every night [13:46] ho ho! [13:46] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-220.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:47] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.74.158) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:47] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.127.171) joined ##slackware. [13:51] spmd (~loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:52] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-170-254.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [13:54] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.127.171) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [13:54] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.125.118) joined ##slackware. [13:57] can i change root password through chroot ? [13:57] yes [13:58] passwd [14:00] dive: crap, how did you guess my password? :o [14:00] :-p [14:02] Hunter2 [14:02] I'm going to hunter2 my hunter2ing hunter2!!! [14:02] Oh, wow, that was a really convincing password prompt. [14:02] hahaha you all just see *******'s! [14:02] xD [14:02] I don't remember where that quote was from [14:04] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [14:04] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-28-248.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:04] bash.org I think [14:04] most probably [14:05] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-220.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:05] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [14:05] might be on qdb.us as well [14:05] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-76-226.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:06] how to get a copy slackware 13.0 directory tree? [14:07] http://www.bash.org/?244321 ;-) [14:07] sarkoman (~sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:08] Axius: getslack and choose a mirror? [14:08] Camarade_Tux: that poor poor newb [14:08] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [14:09] ssa (Administr@unaffiliated/sky-1/x-6937507) left ##slackware. [14:10] I want to make a bootable usb flash drive for that reason I need a copy slackware 13.0 directory tree. [14:10] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:10] Axius: rsync + mirror. [14:11] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [14:11] http://alphageek.dyndns.org/linux/slackware-mirrors.shtml <-- for a link of suitable mirrors. [14:11] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/usbinstall/13.0/INSUSB [14:11] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: fui [14:12] thank you! [14:13] yw, alienbob is a pretty useful critter [14:13] And there's also a Gart [14:15] Blue_Slacker86 (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) joined ##slackware. [14:15] Blue_Slacker86 (blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker86/x-7524579) left ##slackware. [14:16] sarkoman (~sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [14:16] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [14:16] Action: slackie hi there \o [14:18] helow [14:18] dErFz (~derf@unaffiliated/derfz) left irc: Quit: sleep [14:21] I get this errors : ssh: Could not resolve hostname ftp: Name or service not known /rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 4 bytes to socket [receiver]: Broken pipe (32) / rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(1525) [receiver=3.0.6] what should I do? [14:22] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [14:22] nv4Phil (~phil@adsl-156-27-71.bna.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:22] you don't ssh to rsync [14:22] Axius, what command did you run? [14:22] rsync ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/ [14:23] rsync does ftp? [14:23] you don't rsync to ftp [14:23] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [14:24] first, try rsync slackware.mirrors.tds.net [14:24] mohaa (~nome@89.16.14.144) joined ##slackware. [14:24] wget can ftp [14:24] just that should give you a directory listing [14:24] lftp can ftp ;) [14:24] isn't there a dedicated rsync server? [14:25] if you don't have any portion of slackware-13.0 ftp and rsync are going to give about the same performance (rsync is designed to make things faster when you have some but not all of the files) [14:25] several - slackware.mirrors.tds.net being the one I sync from on my test mirror [14:25] yeah there are several rsync mirrors [14:25] Action: cybErpunk is gone.. rubbing your smelly noodle ..(log) [14:25] Action: Delahunt would also like to point out that you can explore the mirrors using nmap if you make sure you do so cautiously [14:26] (side note: you can find all kinds of fun stuff on the internet using nmap) [14:26] dErFz (~derf@188.72.255.195) joined ##slackware. [14:26] sarkoman (~sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [14:27] sarkoman (~sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [14:28] then rsync slackware.mirrors.tds.net::pub etc [14:30] PsYkHe (~psykhe@187.36.139.37) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:33] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:35] How can I get a copy of the slackware tree with? lftp? [14:36] Yep. [14:37] grazymax (~grazymax@host114-96-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:37] lftp mirror of choice; mirror directory; wait approximately a half hour to multiple hours, depending on connection speed; enjoy [14:37] Like with this: lftp -c "open ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/ ; mirror slackware-13.0" [14:37] dErFz (~derf@188.72.255.195) left irc: Changing host [14:37] dErFz (~derf@unaffiliated/derfz) joined ##slackware. [14:37] Anakin (anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [14:38] That's hawt. [14:38] alienBOB: thank you. 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[14:47] hi when i shutdown my slack 13 machine i get segmentation fault in /etc/rc.d/rc.0 /sbin/poweroff, reinstalled kernel-modules sysvinit and made some memory tests, can u help me plz [14:48] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@63.238.104.170) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:49] The_ManU_212: were you using a custom kernel? [14:50] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:51] i am the system runs without errors on my dektop amchine on ym netbook i get this error message [14:52] i would try running ldconfig first [14:53] segfaults can be from mismatched library versions [14:54] mr-S^b43 (~Mr-S^b32@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:55] Skywise: k ill try, what can be the reason that this can happen? [14:55] updating packages and such [14:55] but i'm just thinking of easy fixes to try [14:55] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: flw [14:56] Skywise: the system on the netbook is an image of my desktop pc, runs perfectly on other machines [14:57] they don't have the same hardware tho [14:57] Skywise: btw do u know a vga mode for lilo and 1024 x 600? [14:57] search for vesa modes [14:57] they're all dependent on what your card supports [14:57] Skywise: yep but all drivers are in the modules, and the kernel fits for both systems, all works except shutdown [14:58] what you can do is change the lilo vga mode =ask to try different resolutions [14:58] then you can put that in your conf [14:59] you can also use strace to see whats missing when you're exec'ing shutdown [14:59] gazwald (~gazwald@cpc3-basf8-2-0-cust420.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:00] gopnnik (~gopnnik@195.88.242.70) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [15:00] anyone here running slack 13.0, irssi, and using nickcolors? [15:01] gazwald (~gazwald@cpc3-basf8-2-0-cust420.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:02] Skywise: ldconfig doesnt help , the segmentation fault is in line 265 [15:02] ok, its a script, did you see what its trying to do? [15:02] manu, is /proc still mounted when poweroff is run? [15:04] GooseYArd: how can i see it when the amchine is allready shutting down? [15:05] Skywise: no, should i run strace poweroff? [15:05] manu: insert a sleep 20 or something into rc.0 before it calls poweroff [15:06] you can also have rc.0 run mount or something for you and it'll print to the console [15:06] see what line is called in rc.0:265 [15:08] you should also be able to change the shbang line from #! /bin/sh to #! /bin/sh -x [15:08] although it might fly by too fast to read [15:09] john_dee (~id@95-29-9-151.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:09] Skywise: itscalled fi before is else /sbin/poweroff [15:10] yeah, try strace poweroff [15:11] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [15:13] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:13] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-76-226.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:14] Skywise: and where is saved a log? what i could see is the same as without poweroff [15:14] i think it normally outputs to the screen [15:15] Skywise: well there is something like a backtrace, i got this everytime [15:15] -ofile is to specifiy an output file [15:15] many kernel_commands or so with: ? [15:16] >Akyhow can i check if the poweroff file is ok? [15:16] what slackware release are you running [15:17] d27f16f7bf45ee40912e15c6cdabf7af /sbin/poweroff [15:17] thats from -current [15:17] GooseYArd: 13 [15:20] Skywise: I resized my partition yesterday... [15:20] and you're just making it back? [15:20] It went pretty well until I realized about 2 modules I needed ended up disappearing. [15:21] yow! [15:21] how'd that happen [15:21] No way. LOL. I took care of it that same hour. [15:21] Salix is only 500 megs, so it wasn't trouble [15:22] But, it did work, just it took out like 5% of my root [15:23] booted all the way into X. [15:24] its a pity slackware hasn't got packages with debug symbols included [15:24] hang on ill build you one manu [15:24] you 64 bits? [15:26] Most distros don't include debug symbols. If you're going to debug, you're expected to be able to build a package with debug symbols included. [15:27] jkwood: have you seen the gdb/symbols package integration in fedora? (this is not a slackware slag, mind you) [15:27] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-25-145.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:27] helloooo [15:27] how are you [15:27] Camarade_Tux, hello =) [15:28] its ridiculous, they've patched gdb to trap the missing symbols error, it'll invoke the package tool and fetch the symbols for you, without having to exit gdb [15:29] afternoon fredoslack [15:29] hi alisonken1home =) [15:31] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-25-145.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [15:32] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-25-145.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:33] who is du Canada here please [15:33] from * [15:34] GooseYArd: what do u build? [15:34] manu: ill build you a halt/poweroff binary with debugging symbols so we can get a stack trace out of it when it segfaults [15:34] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-25-145.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [15:35] are you running the 32 or 64 bit dist [15:36] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.125.118) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:37] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-25-145.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:37] http://topquark.roadkill.com/~bailey9/slackbuild/ [15:38] there are two poweroff bins in there, an x86 and an x86_64 [15:38] dedo, where are you [15:39] fredo and dedo ? [15:39] dedo, the man who was speaking french [15:39] which * [15:39] sorry [15:40] for my poor english [15:40] GooseYArd: should i replace the file in /sbin/? [15:40] make a copy of your original one [15:40] eviljames, ah tu es là [15:40] :p [15:41] hello =) [15:41] rename the original one with a .old extension [15:41] -/c [15:41] The_ManU_212: does poweroff only segfault when you're actually shutting the machine down, or will it do that if you just run it now? [15:41] bah [15:42] heh [15:42] GooseYArd: i didnt get u, when i execute poweroff my machine is shutting down till it segfaults [15:42] jhw (~jhw@p5B3E7F14.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:43] manu right- what im asking is, if you just run the /sbin/poweroff binary without shutting the machine down, does it segfault? [15:43] be careful of course, its going to shut the machine down if it doesnt segfault [15:45] sarkoman (~sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:45] GooseYArd: i just type /sbin/poweroff?... [15:45] right, as long as you dont mind it possibly shutting down [15:45] make sure everything is closed that needs to save something first [15:46] my guess is that its not going to segfault [15:46] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:47] delt0r (~delt0r@80-123-57-168.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:47] GooseYArd: ur right! its shutting down [15:47] ok cool [15:48] GooseYArd: well it downt matter if i run shutdown the segfault happens when its to late to save files oO ^^ [15:49] i think halt/poweroff reads some stuff out of /proc, so I suspect what is happening is that it is reading a malformed entry, or it is trying to mmap a file or something that is in a bad state at shutdown time [15:49] GooseYArd: but since its a systemimage its strange, it works on my desktop amchine... [15:50] it will be kind of tricky to debug, I suppose you could change rc.0 to have it run "gdb /sbin/poweroff" instead of poweroff [15:50] oh this is a virtual machine? [15:50] GooseYArd: no physically installed on desktop and netbook, desktop ok, netbook bad [15:50] oh ok [15:50] Hold (~schoward@63.241.180.212) joined ##slackware. [15:51] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [15:51] Nick change: Hold -> HoldMyPocket [15:51] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@63.238.104.170) left irc: Client Quit [15:52] well the crappy thing is, even if you can get poweroff to run in gdb at shutdown time, you wont have an easy way to grab the stacktrace, youd have to type it in by hand [15:52] sux [15:52] GooseYArd: which poweroff says it is /sbin/poweroff so where is the differnce...? can we solve the poblem? [15:52] im sure the binaries are the same, its just that your netbook behaves differently as it shuts down [15:53] one thing you might could do is run it over ssh and dump to screen [15:54] well, i guess that might get killed first [15:54] i think it would [15:54] man i miss serial consoles :) [15:54] what about using remote syslogging [15:54] now you're lucky to get a serial port [15:55] well it wouldnt be easy to get it to syslog a stacktrace [15:55] you could probably link a halt binary with sigsegv.c or something to have it stack trace to the terminal; [15:55] lemme try that [15:55] GooseYArd: thx :) [15:56] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.83.141) joined ##slackware. [15:56] i like the slack-channel for its support even for exotic problems [15:57] manu are you x86 or x86_64? [15:57] GooseYArd: x86 [15:57] both working desktop and netbook [15:57] ok [15:57] desktop p4 and netbook intel atom [15:58] ok I replaced those poweroff binaries on my site with versions that will dump a stack trace to the console [15:58] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] you can try replacing your /sbin/poweroff with poweroff.x86, then do a normal shutdown, then try to copy down what is written in the stack trace [16:00] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:01] delt0r (~delt0r@80-123-52-96.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [16:01] do tehre [16:01] thre [16:01] there are KDE 4.4 packages [16:01] for Slackware 13 ? [16:01] please [16:02] fredoslack: alien has them on his site [16:02] but they require -current to run [16:02] alisonken1home, thankkkks :) [16:03] alien, you are the bers [16:03] best * :p [16:05] alice_c (~alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [16:07] GooseYArd: poweroff in /sbin is only a symbolic lnk to hald* ... how to change your file to fi the conditiuons of the old file... inst a link only a link? [16:09] The_ManU_212: you can just replace the symlink with my file, then when you're done recreate the symlink from poweroff to halt [16:09] that way your regular halt binary won't be touched [16:10] alice_c (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:11] GooseYArd: can u tell me how to link? [16:13] ln -s /sbin/halt /sbin/poweroff [16:13] that says "make a symlink called poweroff that points to halt" [16:14] and poweroff should be poweroff.x86 which i have renamed? [16:15] right [16:16] GooseYArd: so a symlink isnt like a windows link to files? it can include binary files? [16:17] ln says file exists [16:17] cmk_zzz (~martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [16:18] it can be anything [16:18] ah yeah, do something like this [16:18] mv /sbin/poweroff /sbin/poweroff.old [16:18] then cp poweroff.x86 /sbin/poweroff [16:19] then when you're finished testing, just mv /sbin/poweroff.old /sbin/poweroff [16:20] sirslacker (1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:21] GooseYArd: so file exists is ok, now what, trying to shutdown? [16:21] yep [16:21] if we're successful, when poweroff segfaults, it should dump a stack trace to the console and then just sit there [16:22] then we can figure out why its segfaulting with the help of the trace [16:22] GooseYArd: but ls -alsh doesnt say that your poweroff is now a link, the poweroff.old is a symlink to halt* , after ln -s your file it isnt [16:22] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:22] thats ok [16:22] raendeer (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:22] FRSoldier (frsoldier@93.94.25.110) joined ##slackware. [16:23] Shuren (Devilman@host200-237-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware ("Sto andando via"). [16:25] The_ManU_212: I'll be back in about an hour [16:25] GooseYArd: no it doesnt work when shutting doen i get the error permission denied [16:25] GooseYArd: ah k its late here [16:26] the problem is if the poweroff file exists the link cannot be created [16:26] ... [16:26] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [16:28] interesting... it looks like there's some sort of memory leak in audacious [16:32] Fallhallen (~Fallhalle@91.90.29.39) joined ##slackware. [16:32] Necos, how audacious! [16:32] Necos, check gentoo and debian for a patch for it. one may exist. if one does, let Patrick Volkerding know. if you do this you may help Slackware. [16:33] can someone help me try to reinstall the original Kernel off my 12.2 disk set? [16:33] my kernel got corrupted and I cant get online or do much of anything on boot [16:33] and i dont know how to tell the install CD to mount my root drive [16:33] How many apps actually use ESD? [16:34] Action: Delahunt doubts any still due outside of gnome [16:34] Fallhallen, um please tell me if you see your hard drive listed when you run the command cat /proc/partitions [16:35] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:35] cat: read erro: Is a directory [16:35] I got my hd to mount under /mnt [16:35] its /dev/sdb2 [16:36] but I dont know how to get my system to boot up using the kernel on the install cd, so I can run slackpkg and update the kernel [16:36] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:36] if I can get that to work I should be good [16:37] Dreamwalker (~dreamwalk@87-98-237-72.ovh.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-230-181.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:38] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.83.141) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:38] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-230-181.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:39] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.57.77) joined ##slackware. [16:40] Fallhallen, you should be able to just boot from the cd and when you get to the first prompt type huge.s root=/dev/sdb2 [16:40] been a while since I've done that, and it's from memory, but I think it's right. [16:40] ya i did that once, but then i got a kernel panic [16:41] ill try again [16:41] Do you only have a single partition for Slackware? [16:42] i just have swp and one linux partition , yes [16:42] The other option is to boot all the way into the cd mount your rootfs and chroot into it. [16:42] I can try and talk you through that if you like. [16:42] how do i chroot? [16:42] ok, let me try this again [16:42] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-25-145.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [16:43] okeydoke. if it doesn't work shout up and I'll talk you through the chroot. [16:43] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.57.77) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:43] i was having troubles with the NVIDIA driver, it was conflicting with my soundcard so I was doing some troubleshooting and my kernel got corrupted [16:44] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5DC30AB2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [16:44] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.43) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [16:45] that command did not mount or boot into the hd [16:45] but i can mount it now [16:45] Nick change: hd -> jd [16:46] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.34) joined ##slackware. [16:46] i mounted my rootfs to -mnt [16:46] /mnt [16:46] How do I get sound to work on Slackware? I have installed SL13 on eeepc. [16:47] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:47] rworkman: ping [16:48] kleanchap: usually by adding your user to the "audio" group [16:48] alienBOB: in Slackware64, audio does not work with the binary virtualbox [16:49] Fallhallen: Are you at the command line from the install cd now then? [16:49] ya [16:49] alienBOB: seems like the solution is to remove esd support from sdl [16:50] Axius (~fd@92.82.74.237) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:50] Ok, try the following then... [16:50] mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc [16:51] mount -o bind /sys /mnt/sys [16:51] alienBOB, I do have the audio group. when I try to "alsactl restore" I am getting failed to obtain info for control #2" message. [16:51] chroot /mnt [16:51] The_ManU_212 (~manu@port-92-200-139-143.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:52] That should get you into your rootfs with everything in place. [16:52] NaCl: fyi the SDL package which is going to be released in the next update has "--disable-esd" [16:52] mount points /mnt/proc and /mnt/sys do not exist [16:52] kleanchap: updated the kernel just before? [16:52] alienBOB: how convenient [16:52] That's strange, you've still got your rootfs mounted on /mnt? [16:52] alienBOB, these mysterious updates are pretty few and far between ;) [16:53] why not just 'mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt; chroot /mnt' ? [16:53] ok got it mounted now [16:53] alienBOB, Yes I did. I have 2.6.32.7 version. [16:53] ok. try the binds again then. it should work this time. [16:54] im in [16:54] dive, I'm just telling him the way I know works. :) [16:54] Then remove the /etc/asound.state and reboot kleanchap [16:54] thrice`: just be patient [16:54] but i cant get online [16:54] Pat likes to make a grand entry [16:55] can I somehow reinstall the kernel off the CD? [16:55] I guess [16:55] heh [16:56] alienBOB: curious, what prompted this --disable-esd in SDL? Is ESD going away? [16:56] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [16:56] Fallhallen: yes, mount the CD and run "installpkg /path/to/kernel/etc...." [16:56] NaCl: I think it was precisely your VBox issue which prompted this [16:56] Ah, cool. [16:56] i thought installpkg would not make/configure the kernel [16:57] I told rworkman about it a while back. [16:57] Fallhallen: ? [16:57] You install a ready-built kernel... no need to compile [16:57] I didn't get reminded of it until today when I was fidgiting with my polkit VM. [16:57] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.56.138) joined ##slackware. [16:58] because I have before run installpkg on a kernel before, but it did not use that kernel when I rebooted [16:58] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.249.169) joined ##slackware. [16:59] did you configure and run lilo? [16:59] crashdata (~crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:59] thought you said it self configured [16:59] lilo not the kernel [17:00] and the kernel doesn't 'self configure' it is already configured [17:00] GooseYArd: Fedora is also technically a testing distribution (Sorry, I was afk) [17:00] so what do i do after I run installpkg on the kernel file? [17:01] Action: Cann0n heard Fedora... [17:01] jkwood has reappeared! [17:01] Fallhallen, edit /etc/lilo.conf properly and then run 'lilo' [17:01] jkwood: Fedora is not usable. I have it on a machine at home and it brings the Windows experience to linux. Very sad [17:02] cmk_zzz: fedora/ubuntu generally have more updates than windows does. [17:02] In my experience [17:02] fedora is very "usable" [17:02] which disc is the kernel on? [17:02] for me to poop on [17:02] ubuntu has a shit load of updates [17:02] Fedora comes with SELinux all tangled up in it... I got an update for the SELinux policies, and when I rebooted, it locked up my system. root couldn't mount the root partition because it was "unsafe" [17:02] cmk_zzz: Sorry to hear that. I've met several people who like it. [17:02] Fedora is pure CA-CA! [17:02] Shuren (~Devilman@host200-237-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:02] Fedora is usable, although yum is quite sluggish [17:02] NaCl: It's not the updates I am worried about. It is that things hang, is sluggish, automagically does stupid things which hang etc [17:03] What automatic things? [17:03] It automagically does a lot of things. [17:03] Someone told me Fedora was like a time bomb... they were right. [17:03] straterra: e.g. run package updates [17:03] I've never had that hang [17:03] I can't really upgrade packages on a console. [17:03] im a racist, if it aint slack i'll talk smack about it [17:03] And..gasp..you can disable it [17:03] Ubuntu and Fedora have their purposes though. They better the Linux world. More "beta testers" [17:03] Again, it's a testing distro. It's where they do guinea pigging for Red Hat. [17:04] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-130.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:04] That's the beauty of Linux distros - there's something for everyone "and some things for no one.) [17:04] straterra: yeah, but the point of Fedora is that it has SELinux. [17:04] Fallhallen, should be on the first cd in a/ [17:04] Cann0n: also easily disabled [17:04] oh, i was looking for k/ [17:04] straterra: yeah, but ubuntu lets you do both at once without PackageKit barking about not having the yum lock tons of times [17:04] alienBOB, The sound works now. Thnx! [17:04] vldmr (1000@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:05] Fallhallen, kernel source is in k/ [17:05] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.56.138) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [17:05] straterra: either way, it's hard to fully remove. [17:05] You dont need to fully remove [17:05] one line disables it [17:05] NaCl: That is true.. [17:05] I tried removing and borked up my system. When I disabled it, i still got the dozen pop ups saying nothing was wrong [17:05] Plus fedora is a redhat derivate and they've changed the behaviour of useradd, therefor I hate them [17:05] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.128.73) joined ##slackware. [17:05] It even says that yum is obsolete. [17:06] straterra: are you running rawhide anywhere? [17:06] Nope [17:06] Ok. [17:06] RH in corperate. They have the right idea to release a prooving grounds distro so their "real" product is better [17:07] sure, but they should keep of changing behaviour of normal unix tools. [17:08] which kernel should i install? I have options Firmware, generic, huge, modules [17:08] huge [17:08] My friend Fedora-lover claims that in that distro nothing is changed (not like in Debian eg) :) [17:09] and SMP or non smp option for all [17:09] smp [17:09] Dreamwalker: orly? [17:09] Dunno for sure [17:09] Used Fedorah for less than a week :) It irritated me too much [17:09] Fallhallen, and if you had borked up a kernel compile previously you will probably need modules too [17:10] im not sure what i need to install then, dive [17:10] well, did once try to reconfigure your kernel? [17:10] did you* [17:10] Dreamwalker: yeah, Fedora is one of those tings you either hate after a few days or love [17:11] no, not on this system [17:11] Cann0n: I don't know. But after 5 years of Slackware I just can't imagine long time working on any other distro. [17:11] ok well you may as well install modules-smp anyway as well as the kernel [17:12] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) joined ##slackware. [17:12] can;t harm [17:12] The 'current' changelog has been quiet the last few weeks. I'm getting withdrawal symptoms from not updating anything. :) [17:12] so kernel-generic and kernel-modules ? [17:12] Dreamwalker: it's hard. I can't. I've got 10 years of Slack under my belt, though I'm just a user. I don't do the fancy smart stuff [17:12] Fallhallen: what are you doing? [17:12] didn't someone already say huge-smp ? [17:12] dive: yeah I did... [17:13] short term memory loss [17:13] Nick change: NaCl -> Agent_NaCl [17:13] Fallhallen, install huge-smp and modules-smp [17:13] Fallhallen: do some reading before toying with your kernel. [17:13] Cann0n, my kernel is already corrupted, [17:13] Fallhallen: how did that happen? [17:14] Cann0n: I'm a user also. That's why on my server I have Debian :) (my second favourite in line) [17:14] Action: cmk_zzz hate linux distributions [17:14] Tried to find something between Slack and Debian - there's Archlinux. A week ago I migrated back from Arch to Slack due to errors and hangups. [17:15] trying to trouble shoot a soundcard issue with the NVIDIA driver [17:15] I've vowed to stick with Slackware and Slackware based distros for now on [17:15] ok they are installed, what should I do next [17:15] Fallhallen: did you read the doc's that come with the kernel source? [17:15] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-170-254.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: see ya [17:15] Arch: is problem. How can you use a unix derivate which actively removes documentation and man-pages? [17:15] Fallhallen, either edit lilo.conf or run liloconfig [17:15] Fallhallen, then run lilo [17:16] Slackware-based? So what else, Kate, Zenwalk, Yoper? [17:16] Nick change: Agent_NaCl -> NaCl [17:16] Action: cmk_zzz is too bitter [17:16] Dreamwalker: Salix. I try not to say it too much because some people are sometimes assholes and will bitch about it. [17:16] IMO grub > lilo [17:17] Dreamwalker: it's worth checking out. I love it death. right out of box it's nearly perfect. [17:17] Warninng: unable to determine video adapter in use in the present system [17:18] IMO KCl > NaCl :P [17:18] Warning: the boot sector and map file are on different disks. [17:18] NaCl: I like Lilo better. [17:18] Cann0n: Never heard. It looks I'm gonna google it right now :) [17:18] dive: ow, my feelings. [17:18] Warning: Video adapter does not support VESA BIOS extensions needed for display of 256 colors. Boot loader will fall back to text only operation [17:18] that's not a problem [17:18] Cann0n: gnome??? [17:18] xfce [17:18] Fatal: illegal 'root=' specification: /dev/root [17:19] lilo has not been correctly installed [17:19] Fallhallen, video adaptor warning is ok. But you need to change root= [17:19] I prefer fluxbox, but xfce isn't too bad. [17:19] Slax, Slamd64, Wolvix, Goblinx, Vector... [17:19] use a bootdisk [17:19] Cann0n: I find it easier to tweak grub at times. Also a little easier to fix if there is some problem with the stuff being passed into it. [17:19] jkwood: is slamd maintained anymore? [17:19] Slax is pretty cool. [17:19] Fallhallen, edit /etc/lilo.conf and change root= to root=/dev/sdb or whatever your root is [17:19] NaCl: True true. [17:20] NaCl: an excellent question. [17:20] ok, done [17:20] run lilo again [17:20] Cann0n: I'm a KDE fanboy :) And on my old laptop I've got the fluxbox. Tried awesome, but it's too geeky. [17:20] ok [17:20] now reboot? [17:21] any more warnings? [17:21] 3 warnings [17:21] same ones [17:21] video junk [17:21] i always get that, always have [17:21] its an NVIDIA issue [17:21] not this time [17:21] it will be solved when the NVIDIA driver is installed [17:21] it's because you are chrooted [17:21] huh... well i have always had those problems [17:22] i just ignored them [17:22] it's nothing to do with nvidia driver [17:22] jkwood: ChangeLog on a slamd mirror says last update was in May 2009 [17:22] did you still get root= error? [17:22] is it my bios? [17:22] So, I guess "no"\ [17:22] no i dont have the root= error anymore [17:22] map error? [17:22] no [17:22] just video errors [17:22] which i always ignored [17:22] ok now reboot [17:22] O.o [17:22] NaCl: Yeah... I've been thinking about trying to bring it up to date, but at current my time is at a premium. [17:23] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [17:23] Slackware64 works fine for me. [17:23] I've broken CRTs ignoring things on linux... [17:23] And I know fred's been busy at work. [17:23] Yeah, I just moved to it myself. [17:23] Cann0n, that error is cos he is chrooting into it from cd [17:23] Action: NaCl is waiting for rawhide to download [17:23] but he should still put a proper mode in once he's booted the system [17:23] NaCl: Fedora's Rawhide? [17:24] Good night! [17:24] yeah. [17:24] NaCl: You dealt with Rawhide before? [17:24] No. [17:24] I'm installing it in a VM. [17:24] It's beta versions of beta software... [17:24] which would make it alpha software :P [17:24] Cann0n: the last time I tried to install a prerelease fedora, anaconda barfed on me. [17:24] I'm just letting you know what to expect. [17:25] lol [17:25] nice [17:25] Cann0n: I am just making the VM to try compiling my polkit patch on a system with PAM [17:25] Is it Adobe alpha? Because I'm pretty sure they ship the broken stuff, and release the working stuff as an alpha. [17:25] well if microsoft can make lots of money on alpha software so can fedora I guess [17:25] ok thanks its working now [17:25] NaCl: ah. GL with that. [17:25] I didn't really get on with fedora, but liked cent more. [17:25] and my nvidia module was is still intact [17:26] Fallhallen, ok now edit lilo.conf once more and choose a video mode [17:26] I avoid using software with a's, b's or rc's in it. [17:26] i did, i think that is a bios issue [17:26] becuase it always does that when I have my external HD plugged in during reboot [17:26] try vga=791 [17:26] Probably why slackware is so solid. It's not shipped with bleeding edge things [17:26] http://www.gametrailers.com/video/angry-video-screwattack/61988 wish i would have been able to have my hands in that. [17:26] but if its not plugged in, then I dont get that error [17:26] CannOn: not a google fan eh? :) [17:27] shit, window fail.. [17:27] Fallhallen, hmm well you can still try vga=791 then run lilo again [17:27] cmk_zzz: I have very mixed feelings about google. [17:27] Cann0n: slackware has had rc's, beta's etc as well [17:27] hcfd (~fed@host86-154-184-153.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [17:27] I like the gmail and i like the search. period. [17:27] CannOn: And they only run beta software too:) (well not alny longer) [17:28] pprkut: but I avoid installing them. [17:28] ok it works now [17:28] no errors [17:28] Cann0n: The VM is stalling. [17:28] Debian only runs abandoned software. [17:28] ok good [17:28] yay [17:28] as in, I don't select the beta version of Firefox, etc etc [17:28] thanks, now i just need to figure out why that NVIDIA module is conflicting my soundcard [17:28] google == skynet [17:29] no, Micro$aft = skynet [17:29] Cann0n: wait, you are not installing glibc? ok... [17:29] NaCl: Gonna be one of those days huh [17:29] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.128.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [17:29] woot [17:29] pprkut: I'm not even using Slackware. ;) [17:29] :O [17:29] Cann0n: on the other times I tried it, fedora said my HDD s were failing. [17:30] microsoft tried and failed, thats where goorble comes in [17:30] FRSoldier (frsoldier@93.94.25.110) left irc: Quit: life is but a dream [17:30] NaCl: yeah, I had tons of issues with Fedora. I almost wrote someone a letter and demanded my blank dvd back. j/k. [17:31] huh. Fedora rawhid has HAL. [17:32] You gotta watch out in #fedora. If I could upgrade my kernel via yum (I was lazy) and they suggested Rawhide. I looked into it, they were trying to trick me into using it like a cattle gets branded. [17:32] Cann0n, you should use dvd rw's. ;) [17:32] gazwald: I should just bit the bullet and do it via USB [17:33] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [17:33] get the new 256gb thumb drive [17:33] yep, I suppose so. My stupid PC vendor have locked the bios down. I can't get it to boot from usb. :( [17:33] awww [17:34] its wine o clock [17:35] hello world [17:35] hi ente [17:35] ok thank you dive gazwald and eveyrone for your help! [17:35] [23:29] < Cann0n> pprkut: I'm not even using Slackware. ;) [17:35] hey, me neither :D [17:35] what is this? [17:35] you're welcome Fallhallen. :) [17:35] ente: what are you using? [17:35] archlinux, minix and netbsd [17:35] Fallhallen (~Fallhalle@91.90.29.39) left irc: Quit: Too many Tards in here [17:36] ente: everything but slackware eh? [17:36] but doing a bit of distrohopping, that's why I'm here [17:36] cmk_zzz: slackware is on my "install as soon as you have a new box" list [17:36] ente: good. That means that hoppelyhopp of yours has come to an end:) [17:36] ente: I'm using a slackware-based distro. Though, I don't call it slackware because to some, if you put a ford emblem on a honda, it becomes a ford. Who new? [17:37] :-D [17:37] recompiling a distribution is a lot more difficult than it first appears. by the time you do, it's not slackware-based at all, it's what YOU made [17:38] Depends. I wouldn't call stripping down a distro from it's packages and including a hand full of apps recreating a distro [17:38] well, not really [17:39] somebody else did all the hard work, and gcc compiled it for you :) [17:39] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:39] Some people can't even compile kernels. [17:39] Cann0n: people dont compile kernels, compilers do =) [17:40] Cann0n: its just so many choices by the time i get done reading through them, a new kernel version comes out and im two years behind [17:40] snL20: You know what I mean. lol [17:40] hcfd (~fed@host86-173-110-226.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:40] xsamurai: lol [17:40] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Quit: \o\ /o/ \o/ [17:41] xamurai: Just filter theoptions like this: If it is new. Skip it [17:41] xsamurai: eh, compiling a kernel is a pain yeah... but you get the hang of it after about 30 compiles =) [17:41] cmk_zzz: I always read teh recommended setting [17:42] I just copy the config from /boot and use that as oldconfig. then when it finishes, I run make menuconfig [17:42] easy [17:42] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [17:42] take out the hardward drivers I dont want. I do it that way because I'm lazy and sometimes might forget something I need. [17:42] Cann0n: /proc/config.gz [17:43] snL20: same thing. [17:44] Cann0n: well thats for the running kernel =) [17:45] snL20: yeah, I use the stock config as a starter. I find it less work that doing it from scratch. [17:46] Cann0n: yeah, but I mean its better to grab it from proc imo [17:46] yeah, I never tried it that way. [17:47] I usually tell people to do it that way in case the one in /boot is fubarred [17:47] gm152 (~gm145@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:47] Nick change: gm152 -> Guest9994 [17:47] normally, once I get one built, I back it up on a thumb drive dedicated to that computer. [17:48] that's a bit extreme [17:48] Guest9994 (~gm145@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:48] nah. I've lost .config's before. [17:48] human error mostly [17:48] hard to lose the one in /proc [17:49] I mean the finished .config. I'll save it incase I choose to reinstall or what have yee [17:50] modprobe -r config [17:50] CcSsNET (~user@c-71-232-198-164.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:50] whsam! its gone! [17:50] lol [17:50] lol [17:50] dunix (~dguitar@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [17:50] wasnt hard at all [17:50] vehn_z (~vehn_z@62.133.181.122) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:53] I'd like to get a second landline... [17:53] someone has to fax something, hence, this porn site I've been working on DLing for 20 minutes will have to wait longer... [17:54] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:54] Are you using wget? Don't forget to use "wget -c" [17:55] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [17:56] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:57] i should probably make this an alias. its very useful [17:58] _hxd (~hxd@unaffiliated/hxd) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:10] gazwald (gazwald@cpc3-basf8-2-0-cust420.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:12] m0n-Eh (~m0ney@adsl-70-233-143-40.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:19] for domain in `cat somefile` ; do firefox -U $domain ; done; (or whatever the precise bash script would be) [18:19] That should work, no? [18:20] yes. but if would work with one domain. if you $wget http://users.unimi.it/banchedati/proxysnx.pac you can see the text file. thx [18:20] *it [18:21] Interesting question. [18:21] every line contains something like shExpMatch(host,"*acm.org" ) || [18:22] gm152_ (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:22] i have to open a tab of acm.org [18:22] I know that firefox google.com lifehacker.com stopbeatingyourwife.com works. [18:23] jkwood: I just looked at it again, and I think with a non-trivial sized 'somefile' it would lock your system up in a big way. [18:23] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) joined ##slackware. [18:23] This is true, eviljames [18:24] i can split the file. [18:24] You'd have do some sed and awk and ct magic to convert it, I'd think. [18:24] mmm ok. [18:25] *cut [18:26] I concur with jkwood [18:26] while read -r line; do echo $line; done < <(curl http://users.unimi.it/banchedati/proxysnx.pac |grep -o '"\*\(.*\)"') [18:27] while read -r line; do echo $line; done < <(curl http://users.unimi.it/banchedati/proxysnx.pac |grep -o '"\*\(.*\)"' | sed -e 's/\*/www./g') even [18:27] wow! [18:28] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424508.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:28] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:28] thx a lot. [18:28] it work perfectly [18:29] *works [18:29] no worries [18:29] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422030.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:29] chb (~1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Quit: inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris [18:31] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:32] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [18:32] Greetings Programs! [18:33] Greetings: command not found [18:33] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) joined ##slackware. [18:33] heh [18:34] Windows has detected a problem in Greetings.exe. The offending program will be shut down. [18:34] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:34] hey NyteOwl :) [18:34] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422030.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:34] hi fire|bird [18:37] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-422030.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:37] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) joined ##slackware. [18:37] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [18:38] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [18:38] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:38] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [18:39] Windows has encountered a fatal error in user.dll. additionally, the following error was returned: no error. 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[18:47] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:47] Camarade_Tux: :) [18:48] anake: don't we wish! :) I've had mozilla and FF disappear more tiems than I can count [18:48] enter chrome [18:48] chrome isn't safe IMHO [18:49] why not ? [18:49] try chromium then, if you don't think chrome is safe [18:49] elinks hardly ever crashes [18:49] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:49] adaptr: google chrome security [18:49] compared to firefox? [18:50] is that safe to do with chrome ? [18:50] |slackin| (~slackin@68.204.234.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:50] it's an old horse now. I don't beat it anymore - just shoot it :) [18:50] let's be honest here. 'google XYZ' is not a valid argument. ever. [18:50] ananke: not as an argument no, as a pointer to further info, sure :) [18:51] it's akin to 'i'm either too lazy, or uninformed, or i just made up the whole thing, and i'm pointing you to a library of congress, so you can find arguments for my side of the story' [18:51] ananke: in this case I confess to laziness so there :p [18:51] at least you're honest to admit it :) [18:52] the top 3 links are all at least a year old [18:52] that's useless with software [18:52] hmm, something for the presidential debates: REPORTER: So, what's your policy regarding the economic development? PRESIDENT: Google keynes [18:53] at least it's better than writing stuff on your palm [18:53] people are too hard on google, they're a pretty good company [18:54] winger (~E@96.56.22.60) left irc: [18:55] thrice: better than some for sure. still, they've lost a good deal of trust over time with many people and recent comments and product implemetnatiosn haven't done anything to regain it. [18:55] being a company is enough :) [18:55] they have made the web a million times more usable. people tend to forget this [18:55] kozandr (~kozandr@213.79.108.39) joined ##slackware. [18:55] thrice: They still are, but I think they have started slipping. Funny though, they've had lots of newspapers etc speaking out against them. I sense a smear-campaign is going on [18:55] WHile they may be ok, they are still a disaster waiting to haplen imo. I still use them a good bit though - for search anyway [18:55] of course. they do quite a bit for the OSS world, and yet people love flinging mud at them [18:56] limac (~chatzilla@ool-45745b2f.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:56] NyteOwl: i'm still interested in finding out about those chrome safety issues [18:56] ananke: bing 'chrome safety issues' ;) [18:57] good one :) [19:02] Anyone know if freebsd and solaris installs bash by default? Is it safer to write platform independent scripts in sh rather than in bash? [19:02] cmk_zzz: its almost always safer to do that [19:02] Well some that I believe have only recently been fixed included interget overflows, leaks of redirection targets, problem with domains during http authentication ... [19:03] straterra: yes [19:03] NyteOwl: sounds like a typical firefox changelog [19:04] straterra: but the scripts are fairly complicated, and I'd rather keep them in bash. However, if the user need to go through the necessity of installing bash just to run some scripts I might convert them to sh [19:04] ananke: Oh, I'm not saying other browsers don't have security problems, just that with the initial quality of the release, the privcacy issues, potential and otyherwise, I don't regard Chrome as a safe option. As with many things in the IT world, YMMV. [19:04] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:05] NyteOwl, do you have a link to an open security issue in chromium? [19:05] NyteOwl: 'potential' is synonymous with FUD in this case [19:06] Everything has potential security issues [19:06] chrome is not even released as stable yet? if i am not mistaking [19:06] its beta [19:06] anake: if you regard it as that fine. I stated it as my opinion - not fact. your opinion may vary. that's the nice thigns about opinions - everyone has one :) [19:06] it sure is fast though [19:07] ananke actually has TWO opinions. [19:07] NyteOwl: indeed, but backtracking your argument to 'it was an opinion' seems like a cop out [19:08] jkwood: likewise [19:08] NyteOwl: actually, i'm sorry, i just now noticed the IMHO. [19:09] no - I stand by my opinion. you want to call it a cop out that's you opinion - to which you are entitled [19:09] ananke: I don't have opinions. Just hallucinations. [19:09] CcSsNET (~user@c-71-232-198-164.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:09] :P [19:09] jkwood: lol [19:09] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:10] CcSsNET (~user@c-71-232-198-164.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:10] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:11] NyteOwl: indeed, there is nothing wrong with having an opinion and sharing it. however, it is interesting to learn how it was formed, that's why we were asking for some better details [19:11] Razec (1000@187-27-217-24.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:12] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:14] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [19:15] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:15] hmm, $12 in paypal account, i mind as well throw it away on some gadgets from dealextreme [19:15] man you people can't go 5 minutes without arguing about something [19:15] Yes we can! [19:16] you people? :P [19:16] GooseYArd: arguing? If you thought that was an argument you haven't been hanging around ehre long enough :) [19:16] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [19:16] Action: jkwood ironizes [19:16] GooseYArd: this is a productive argument. people are learning [19:17] see look, you're doing it again [19:18] lol [19:18] GooseYArd: YOUR NAME HAS A TYPO ZOMG [19:18] GooseYArd: and? [19:18] geeseyurt ? [19:18] Action: GooseYArd groins straterra in the knee [19:18] |slackin| (~slackin@50.234.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:19] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.2.43) joined ##slackware. [19:19] >.> [19:20] headbutt him on the fist! [19:21] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:21] hehehe [19:23] ass his foot! [19:23] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [19:23] |slackin| (~slackin@50.234.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [19:23] You never want to let straterra get behind you, my friend. [19:24] if he gets behind you, the game is already lost [19:24] That's like hiring Michael Jackson to watch your kids. It might be okay, but how can you be sure? [19:25] exos (~exos@190.18.131.156) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:25] jkwood: you don't WANT to be sure..thats how you win lawsuits [19:25] lol [19:25] Just throw out all reasonable doubt [19:25] |slackin| (~slackin@50.234.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:25] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [19:25] we should have hired straterra to watch michael jackson [19:26] CcSsNET (~user@c-71-232-198-164.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:26] Nah, straterra's not into rich white women. [19:27] <|slackin|> i am [19:27] <|slackin|> o wait [19:27] OH LOOK AN ATTEMPT AT HUMOUR! [19:27] <|slackin|> not micheal jackson [19:27] HaMpA (~kompaesf@88.86.50.38) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:27] j0z (~lhp@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:27] lol [19:27] <|slackin|> i like rich white women who were born women [19:28] How dare you, sir. I would never attempt British humor. [19:28] or any for that matter [19:28] man i went a little crazy on the amazon used books today [19:28] 6 hours later and suddenly my inbox is jammed with shipment notifications [19:29] lol [19:29] are you sending any of those books to poor Zimbabwean children? [19:29] awesome [19:29] <|slackin|> hey [19:29] |slackin|, you won't find them in here [19:29] hell no [19:29] <|slackin|> could oneu guys pm me to test the sound [19:29] these are all for me [19:29] nix_chix0r, hey :) [19:29] manwich-laptop (~chatzilla@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [19:30] hi Necos ! [19:30] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:30] <|slackin|> dont make me get my blackberry out, common send me a pm already [19:30] <|slackin|> shit [19:30] <|slackin|> no sound [19:30] <|slackin|> wtf [19:30] <|slackin|> LOL [19:30] <|slackin|> there is was [19:30] yeah, you want mirc for that [19:30] <|slackin|> like 10 minutes later [19:30] *snicker* [19:30] click the guys nose [19:30] lol ardya [19:30] mshade (~mshade@ip98-169-164-171.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:30] <|slackin|> hum [19:30] <|slackin|> i need it louder and longer if im gonna notice [19:31] <|slackin|> im gonna go rip out the windows ding sound and replace it with a converted mp3 [19:31] man dnssec is going to be the biggest shitshow in history [19:31] That's what she said. [19:31] have it play rickrollin tunes instead [19:31] so beat the xmas rush and implement it now [19:31] <|slackin|> i was thinking rancid [19:32] <|slackin|> or op ivy [19:32] lol nix_chix0r [19:32] <|slackin|> or green day [19:32] j0z (~lhp@201.47.30.88) joined ##slackware. [19:32] j0z (~lhp@201.47.30.88) left irc: Changing host [19:32] j0z (~lhp@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [19:32] dnssec is a boondoggle [19:32] Play the sad trombone sound. [19:33] Skywise: im going to wind up mired in it [19:33] or the tune to the jack in the box [19:33] BAM you got a PM [19:33] nah, use the in and out theme [19:34] Action: NaCl grabs a really long cane [19:34] man i have submitted a series of increasingly boring slackbuilds this week [19:34] use the old cyberhell.wav song :) [19:34] <|slackin|> Want a game of Urban Terror with GOOD players? (in america) Come check out #urtpug on irc.gamesurge.net or go to the web page <[ http://urtpug.com ]> [19:34] <|slackin|> GooseYArd, haha [19:34] >.> [19:35] >_> [19:35] <|slackin|> hey im playing urban terror in slackware [19:35] <|slackin|> dont ban me please [19:35] Action: Necos slaps |slackin| with a slackbuild [19:35] <|slackin|> its an amsg to the gaming networks [19:35] <|slackin|> ut i happen to be here too [19:36] <|slackin|> you know thye got a slackbuild of urt now too [19:36] <|slackin|> i was like "PIMP" when i saw that [19:36] <|slackin|> glad someone did it, i wasthinking about doing it myself [19:36] <|slackin|> then i saw its done! [19:38] Action: Necos updates his /ignore list [19:38] :P [19:39] HoldMyPocket (~schoward@63.241.180.212) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:39] i haven't played World of Goo in a while... i need to buy it at some point [19:39] Heh [19:39] <|slackin|> Urban Terror is free! I'v been playing it like 8 years now, lolol [19:39] one of the most awesome cross-platform games ever [19:40] <|slackin|> free as in beer [19:40] i'm bored with FPS games, heh... [19:41] what did you move on to after getting bored of fps games? [19:41] You know what's an awesome game? FreedroidRPG. [19:42] strategy / puzzle games, like World of Goo [19:42] jkwood: looks like re-imagined diablo? yeah? [19:42] i got tired of the omgyoumissedmewtfbbqipwnedu [19:43] <|slackin|> jkwood, is it rally? [19:43] <|slackin|> im lookin for more games to play in slack [19:43] hcfd (~fed@host86-173-110-226.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:43] |slackin|: adventure [19:43] robots [19:43] it's in bsd-games, a great game :-) [19:43] Necos: i know the feeling, and yet i keep being drawn to them since the commitment when i sit down is nearly zilch [19:44] <|slackin|> humm, ill have to check that out later [19:44] Necos: i like my console games, but i have to plan for a few hours to sit down and play them without interruption (metroid) which i dont have time for as often [19:44] which metroid? prime 3? [19:45] Action: Necos needs to buy a nintendo wii at some point [19:45] Action: Necos <3 Samus [19:45] Did someone mention free beer? [19:45] <|slackin|> haha [19:46] <|slackin|> SlashQuit, sure, common over i got a case in the fridge [19:46] <|slackin|> i only drink when other people comeover [19:46] <|slackin|> so ill buy a case and have it for a while [19:46] What type of beer is it? [19:46] probably tastes like crap if you don't have company often :P [19:47] escaflown (~elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:47] Necos: yeah [19:47] always drink alone [19:47] Necos: it's pretty excellent [19:48] *except when you have company [19:48] Necos: despite my being pretty bad at console shooters [19:48] pksato (~PEBKAC@unaffiliated/pksato) joined ##slackware. [19:48] hackedhead: PRetty muc. [19:48] pksato (PEBKAC@unaffiliated/pksato) left ##slackware. [19:48] |slackin|: I'm supposed to say that, I worked on it. ;) [19:48] jkwood: interesting, might have to check it out [19:52] Stanto (Stanto@cpc1-newc7-0-0-cust318.gate.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:53] <|slackin|> jkwood, haha [19:53] Free beer? Where? [19:53] <|slackin|> my house [19:53] <|slackin|> FLA [19:53] whoa ubuntu 10.04 boots really quickly [19:53] dang, kinda far away [19:54] Xires (~Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:54] NaCl: I stopped bothering about boot times when I got my new computer, boots to console in 13s without doing anything [19:54] I mean, without tweaking anything and it starts a bunch of services [19:55] This being slackware? It takes a wee bit of time here. [19:55] Camarade_Tux: what do you *not* run? [19:55] yeah, slackware64-current [19:55] no apache/mysql for now [19:56] Camarade_Tux: you run the default stuf? [19:56] escaflown (elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [19:57] ntpd, nfs and its deps, sshd, fuse, hald, udev, messagebus [19:57] and maybe 14s actually [19:57] hal cups alsa sshd udev messagebus [19:58] I will have to time this. [19:58] mr-S^b43 (~sven@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [19:59] I turn on a bunch of SATA AHCI stuff on boot. [19:59] Don't know what it does aside from slow the boot time. [19:59] bootchart + bootgraph [20:01] on my laptop, the kernel takes 4s to 7s to init (can't remember), on my new desktop, it takes 800ms... [20:01] manwich-laptop (~chatzilla@97.86.29.42) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [20:03] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-155-9.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:04] mr-S^b43 (~sven@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:04] Camarade_Tux: looks like that mkchartd thing doesn't actually install [20:04] mkchartd? what's that? [20:05] wraps the mkinitrd so that bootchart can do it's thing [20:05] ah, dunno, I don't use initrds [20:05] do you have a custom kernel? [20:07] I think my PC takes longer to go thru the CMOS screen (Zzzzzzz) than it does to boot to init 4 (~35 seconds) [20:07] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] NaCl: yes [20:07] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:07] i usually have to take my hard drive out and wiggle the sata cable around a few times to get mine to finish booting [20:07] SlashQuit: unfortunately, mine takes quite a lot of time to reach lilo =/ [20:08] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:08] GooseYArd, haha. [20:08] CodingGnome (~codinggno@n128-227-51-207.xlate.ufl.edu) joined ##slackware. [20:08] Hello al [20:08] all* [20:09] man these opendnssec jackasses have released a package of tools for managing a signed zone [20:09] I'm looking for a function in visual basic that when given two values (3 or 2) will tell me which is closer to 5 [20:09] anyone know by chance? [20:09] and the fucking thing is written in four different languages and depends on some python modules that dont work with the current release and arent being maintained [20:09] Xires (~Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:10] ah its our old friend again [20:10] huh? [20:10] <|slackin|> CodingGnome, call me crazy, but isnt vb only in windows? [20:10] <|slackin|> i mean, can you compile vb for *nix? [20:11] And if so, why would you even want to use VB?! [20:11] In Mono,yes. [20:11] CodingGnome: you want the subtraction operator and the > operator [20:11] <|slackin|> NaCl, sooo true [20:11] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-155-9.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:11] jkwood: VB is in mono? I thought that was just C# and .NET. [20:11] NaCl: Pretty sure. [20:11] if you can't do that by yourself, you really need to gtfo... [20:12] <|slackin|> Camarade_Tux, sooo true, comes to a linux channel asking the simplest of WINDOWS programming questions [20:12] <|slackin|> lol [20:12] GooseYArd: thanks, I'll look into those operators. I know that this is #slackware... but in my experience this room knows everything [20:13] <|slackin|> CodingGnome, hahaha [20:13] Camarade_Tux: bootchart says that everything takes 31 s. [20:13] <|slackin|> lol i guess thats a good reason [20:13] <|slackin|> but still [20:13] <|slackin|> lol [20:13] hey, I have to admit.. slackers tend to be fairly friendly [20:13] raela: SCREW YOU [20:13] <|slackin|> FRIENDLY? really, lol [20:13] eheh [20:13] I hate you all [20:13] don't redirect you to some wiki you already said you read and didn't help [20:13] we lie compulsively [20:14] <|slackin|> its tru [20:14] <|slackin|> we do [20:14] <|slackin|> i do at least [20:14] GooseYArd: that's what makes things interesting [20:14] <|slackin|> ;] [20:14] ehehe [20:14] |slackin|: paradox [20:14] <|slackin|> hehe [20:14] <|slackin|> ;p [20:14] CodingGnome: seriously though, you're just going to subtract each argument from the target and see which result is larger [20:14] Camarade_Tux: did you modify rc.M? [20:14] (or smaller) [20:14] hey guys, I think I cut a finger off, what do I do??? [20:15] SlashQuit: no way, larger is better [20:15] <|slackin|> raela, id call 411 [20:15] raela: which finger [20:15] GooseYArd: my 11th [20:15] NaCl: a bit on the lapptop [20:15] |slackin|: what if it was his dialing finger? [20:15] My name is Inigo Montoya. [20:15] <|slackin|> GooseYArd, too bad [20:15] <|slackin|> ;p [20:15] :) [20:15] <|slackin|> use ur nose [20:15] it was my nose pickin' finger! [20:15] GooseYArd, oh your right, that's a Winderz based language. Larger is better. [20:15] You killed my father. Prepare to die. [20:16] Action: GooseYArd gets ready [20:16] inconceivable :\ [20:16] aight deener time [20:16] <|slackin|> man [20:16] <|slackin|> this aint faiR! [20:16] <|slackin|> its cold here [20:16] <|slackin|> its not supposed to get cold here [20:16] You still haven't told me what beer you have waiting for me. [20:17] <|slackin|> bud, miller light, hinney and guiness [20:17] <|slackin|> but your have to fight me for my liquid dinner(guiness) [20:17] So you have no beer? [20:17] Camarade_Tux: Ok, so how do I read this thing? [20:17] I'll take the guiness, yeah! [20:18] Graf_Ithaka (~georg@unixboard/users/graf) joined ##slackware. [20:18] hi there =) [20:18] NaCl: you needz eyez and a br4|n [20:18] <|slackin|> SlashQuit, lol [20:18] No kidding. :P [20:18] Guiness is the only one of those worth drinking. [20:18] <|slackin|> rworkman, yep [20:18] <|slackin|> i agree [20:18] <|slackin|> i keep the others for guests [20:19] <|slackin|> cause some people like them [20:19] NaCl: you have a png/svg file? [20:19] da [20:19] anybody's got wine compiled on slackware64 ? I'm using the multilib-enabled gcc but I'm failing the configure at the linker-checks for libGL, libGLU .. [20:19] That's a lot like keeping concrete blocks in case you need a bed for your guests. [20:19] it's really only timechart: each bar is a process and you can see I/O and CPU usage at the top [20:19] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-230-181.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:20] Camarade_Tux: I presume large amounts of red is bad? [20:20] problem is when you edit startup scripts, it gets more annoying to upgrade, or you often lose your config [20:20] Graf_Ithaka: Did you set up yuor environment with . /etc/profile.d/32ev.sh ? [20:21] NaCl: shows the most hungry processes but you'd prolly want as much red in the shorted timeframe [20:21] huh? [20:21] *32dev [20:22] NaCl: omploader.org (or anything else) your image [20:22] I haven't rebuilt wine yet (don't have my 32-bit stuff set up yet), but it's always been as easy for me as just running the Wine SlackBuild. [20:22] Razec (1000@187-27-217-24.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:22] Camarade_Tux: http://imagebin.org/85408 [20:23] omg - I just found an old file full of sample usenet signatures [20:24] If you want one that's tailored to a multilib environment, though, grab http://builds.slamd64.com/System/wine/ [20:24] I've recently used it to build 1.1.38, so it's up to date. [20:25] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-6-63.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:25] NaCl: you could probably shorten the sleep in rc.S and you may remove the call to fc-cache in rc.M if you understand the consequences [20:25] Xires (~Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [20:25] So what do they do? [20:25] jkwood: yep, 32bit env is set but it fails at checking the linkers.. damnit -.- [20:26] Graf_Ithaka: Can you pastebin the log? [20:27] yermandu (~yermandu@unaffiliated/yermandu) joined ##slackware. [20:28] NaCl: read the comments in rc.S and rc.M, as for fc-cache, you need to run it when you install a new font (which I never do) [20:30] http://wecanhaz.nodns4.us :-) [20:30] jkwood: works nice up to: http://pastebin.com/m52dfb4d3 [20:31] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:31] sweet.nodns4us! [20:31] er.. [20:31] rworkman: nice, now you can add a bittorrent client and download pron all day :-) [20:31] Action: Dominian missed a . [20:31] jkwood: I can post the whole config.log if you want but its the same thing [20:31] Graf_Ithaka: Nah, the output is fine. [20:32] Camarade_Tux: it's running a full armedslack-current installation (minus kde/) [20:32] rworkman: whoa [20:32] rworkman: even xfce and firefox? :o [20:32] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [20:32] CodingGnome: also you'll need abs() [20:32] jkwood: the funny thing is, he detects gl.h, glx.h and glu.h fine.. even "up2date OpenGL version .. yes" but when cheking the linking capabilities he fails [20:32] Camarade_Tux: disabling fc-cache cut 5 s from the boot time [20:32] Actually, there, it's now correct. I have a newer kernel since I made that page. [20:33] Camarade_Tux: yes. I've not run anything X related though [20:33] Hmm... Interesting. What video driver are you using? [20:33] rworkman: hah i desperately want one of those little fuckers [20:34] i know i would abandon my family for days if I got one [20:34] GooseYArd: might want to wait until April - the guruplugs come out then [20:34] oh no kidding, whats in those? [20:34] rworkman: had to portscan: running gnutella? ;p [20:34] Yes, you will. I was up until 0100 this morning futzing with it [20:34] i came this close to getting a chumby for xmas but finally thought the better of it [20:34] shit, it's 2:34am now... [20:34] The sheevaplug ($99) has one usb2 port, one mmc slot, one ethernet, and miniusb for serial console. Nice. [20:34] wife got me a roku and im not about to screw around with it [20:35] how about the new one? [20:35] The guruplugs go up to $160 iirc and offer up to two ethernet, four usb, embedded wifi, esata too [20:35] http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/c-4-guruplugs.aspx [20:35] i smell trouble [20:35] rworkman: the HDMI one is $180 [20:35] Either way, yes, trouble. :) [20:35] Seriously, <$200 is well within the range of "impulse purchase" [20:36] rworkman: the tablet the next thing on the list? [20:36] NaCl: quite possibly :) [20:36] Cool. They're fun to mess with. [20:36] the only thing saving me from full on nerding out is a backlog of firearm and excavation equipment purchases ahead in the queue [20:37] haha [20:37] i think im a hobby collector [20:38] If it's the Nvidia driver (installed from a binary), then you have to use the pkg2 installer, so it grabs the 32-bit libs. [20:38] haha, I might have the same problem, GooseYArd :D [20:38] jkwood: is it probably because I'm "only" using mesa on this machine? quite old (by proprietory drivers no more supported) graphics card, so I'm using radeon instead of fglrx [20:38] we're renaissance men [20:38] Xires (~Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:40] That's probably it. Can you run glxgears? [20:40] i wonder how well the ati dri driver in mesa 7.8 works [20:40] the nvidia one is champs [20:41] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-6-63.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:41] jkwood: yep, but not in the 32bit build environment [20:41] why dont they make Tylenol AM? [20:42] PsYkHe (~psykhe@187.36.136.19) joined ##slackware. [20:42] I've heard rumors about this 'AM' thing. [20:42] No shit. [20:42] Sounds like you may need to build the 32-bit comp package for mesa. [20:42] but wine's configure is failing outside the build-environment too [20:42] jkwood: its already installed XD [20:43] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-6-63.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:43] mesa32? [20:44] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:44] yep [20:44] jkwood: mesa-compat32-7.5-x86_64-1.txz [20:45] jd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:45] Well, that should do the trick. [20:45] and libGL and consorts are present in /usr/lib as well as in /usr/lib64 but the same error again [20:46] thats why im askeing here ;) I'm out of ideas [20:46] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-233-113.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [20:47] Hmm... I'm afraid I'll have to set up my environment fully before I can do any testing (I was running Slamd64 12.2 until last night.) [20:47] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:47] PsYkHe (~psykhe@187.36.136.19) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:48] jkwood: lol I was running slamd12.2 until tuesday night ;) [20:48] brb [20:48] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: Molon Labe [20:49] Yeah... I decided I didn't have the free time to update it on my own. [20:49] One of these days, maybe. [20:49] jd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:49] jd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Changing host [20:49] jd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [20:50] yep I never had the time too, but finally some days of lecture-free time ;) [20:50] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.249.169) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:53] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:53] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [20:53] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [20:54] Well, I'm gonna pack up and head somewhere I can get a halfway decent connection for downloading. Let me know if you find anything on that, Graf, and good luck. [20:54] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [20:55] Xires (~Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:56] jkwood: I'll keep searching and I'll let you know if I find out something =) [20:56] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [20:56] TClayton (~tony@unaffiliated/tclayton) joined ##slackware. [20:58] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) joined ##slackware. [21:01] militant (~militant@173.81.26.5) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:01] tuxdev (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:01] militant (~militant@173.81.26.5) joined ##slackware. [21:04] yermandu (~yermandu@unaffiliated/yermandu) left irc: Quit: tilt [21:07] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.249.169) joined ##slackware. [21:08] Xires (~Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:09] CodingGnome (~codinggno@n128-227-51-207.xlate.ufl.edu) left irc: Quit: Java user signed off [21:13] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:14] Stanto (Stanto@cpc1-newc7-0-0-cust318.gate.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: [21:17] just me, or are there a lot of ping timeouts ? [21:18] its just you [21:18] :P [21:18] lol [21:19] phrag, thumbs is gonna ping out. kick him if you dont want to see it [21:22] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:26] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-6-63.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:28] jkwood: I'm through with it, building atm.. there were some unresolved dependencies of the compat-libs.. I can make you a list if you're interested [21:28] isitjustmepingingout.com [21:28] heh [21:28] john_dee (~id@95-29-9-151.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [21:28] syslinux just hung, and kill -9 isn't donig anything [21:28] Graf_Ithaka: Sure thing, that'd be great. [21:29] jkwood: I can send it to you by email, is the gmail adress okay? [21:30] i'm not pinging out, just guess there wasn't much channel activity and made it look like there was =P [21:30] that didnt entirely make sense but you get my drift =P [21:31] Graf_Ithaka: Absolutely. [21:32] militant (~militant@173.81.26.5) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:32] exos (~exos@190.18.131.156) joined ##slackware. [21:34] militant (~militant@173.81.26.5) joined ##slackware. [21:35] ardya, stop making spam domains [21:36] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:38] manhunter (~manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:39] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [21:42] so he's the one thats been doing that [21:44] idratherbeanywhereelsebuthere.com [21:45] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:45] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:45] exos (~exos@190.18.131.156) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:46] Caramuru (~caramuru@187.36.136.19) joined ##slackware. [21:49] exos (~exos@190.18.131.156) joined ##slackware. [21:54] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:57] Stx_ (stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [22:02] dunix (~dguitar@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:02] Stx (stx@freenode/staff/stx) left irc: Ping timeout: 612 seconds [22:02] kevin01123 (~user@2002:4751:4123:1234:221:6bff:fe01:8106) joined ##slackware. [22:03] and Sid The Kid saves the day! [22:04] k [22:06] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.249.169) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [22:06] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.249.169) joined ##slackware. [22:12] eit [22:15] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.249.169) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:20] edman007_ (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Quit: edman007_ [22:20] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.2.43) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:20] ]I'm trying to get my monitor to rotate the picture, so i added `Option "Rotate" "RandR"` under Devices in my xorg.conf Once I restarted X, I try to to run `xrandr -o left` and I get an error "X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)". I then looked at my xorg.log, and I found that there was a warning when loading the xrandr option "Invalid Rotate option: RandR; no rotation enabled." [22:20] _guitarm1n_ (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:20] agris_ (~agris@mail.biko.lv) joined ##slackware. [22:21] How can I get xrandr to work correctly? [22:21] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Write error: Broken pipe [22:21] agris (~agris@mail.biko.lv) left irc: Write error: Broken pipe [22:21] militant_ (~militant@173-81-26-5-pkbg.atw.dyn.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [22:21] Skaperen_ (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Write error: Broken pipe [22:21] Graf_Ithaka (~georg@unixboard/users/graf) left irc: Write error: Broken pipe [22:21] militant (~militant@173.81.26.5) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:21] Graf_Ithaka (~georg@212-183-53-192.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [22:21] Graf_Ithaka (~georg@212-183-53-192.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Changing host [22:21] Graf_Ithaka (~georg@unixboard/users/graf) joined ##slackware. [22:21] Reticenti: "rm /usr/bin/xrandr" :P [22:21] :( [22:22] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:22] so you want your monitor image to rotate left? [22:22] or right, yeah [22:22] wtf? why waste that perfectly awesome monitor? ;) [22:23] Reticenti: what video card do you have? [22:23] Reticenti, probably means the driver doesn't support it [22:23] agentc0re: nvidia 9800 with the nvidia binaries installed [22:23] Reticenti: then use nvidia's setup to do it. [22:23] nvidia-settings [22:24] i didnt know that it did that.. [22:25] There are more things in heaven and earth Reticenti, that even your philosophy can dream of... [22:25] I cant find where to rotate in nvidia-settings [22:25] im looking in mine as well [22:26] swear i've seen it before. [22:27] i cant find it [22:27] Reticenti: add this in your device section, " Option "Rotate" "CW"" [22:28] agentc0re: but if i do that, then I cant switch it on the fly [22:29] Reticenti, I think it only works with the nv driver [22:29] Reticenti: how about " Option "RandRRotation" "on"" [22:29] Reticenti: remove the option you have in now and add that. [22:29] then try xrandr -o left [22:29] so, i just added Option "Rotate" "CW" and that works [22:30] agentc0re: ok, let me try that [22:30] Option "RandRRotation" "on" [22:31] Reticenti: http://linux.die.net/man/1/nvidia-xconfig search for rotate. [22:31] yeah, "RandRRotation "on" worked :) [22:31] thanks guys [22:32] none of the google results showed anything about that [22:32] that i could find anyways [22:32] Reticenti: i could kill you, it was the first link i searched. Work on your google FU! :P http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+nvidia+rotate+screen [22:33] :\ [22:33] lol [22:33] god i hate make [22:33] sorry that's not allowed [22:33] god made make after his own dmg [22:34] acidtripper (~gonza@190.193.18.19) joined ##slackware. [22:34] well to be fair [22:34] haha, tihs is kind of neat [22:34] dive: dmg? [22:34] tall monitor is tall [22:34] mac image [22:34] or is that something else? [22:34] i dont so much hate make as hate the elaborate boilerplate makefiles I use at work [22:34] dive: that's what i thought [22:35] dive: it's an os-x image [22:35] that's what I thought [22:36] Hmm is it possible to run OSX on generic PC hardware these days? [22:36] yes [22:36] Nick change: militant_ -> militant [22:37] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-233-113.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:37] dive: have you done it? [22:37] why would he or anyone really want to do that? :P [22:37] nope I'm too poor for osx [22:38] I guess it would be fun to run it in a vm [22:38] just to try it [22:38] dive: You're not missing much :P [22:38] just go out and steal a macbook from some sissy [22:38] agentc0re: I really don't.. But I'm working on a movie right now and our editor uses Mac + Final Cut Pro.. It'd be really really nice if I can use Mac to do all the post effects work.. I can't use Apple's Prores codec so it adds a nasty layer of complexity by having to transcode stuff [22:39] My uncle has all macs. I'm glad to come back home to linux after playing with macs there [22:39] plus Final Cut is so much nicer than Premiere which I currently own. I'm still waiting for a good open source NLE :( [22:39] got a long wait I think [22:40] Lumiera is my only hope [22:40] nothing else is really on the level.. lots of iMovie clones but nothing professional yet [22:41] linux is hopelessly behind when it comes to video editing [22:42] cmk_zzz: I think they have some REALLY REALLY REALLY expensive apps + hardware solutions but I can't afford 100k+ :( [22:42] cmk_zzz, we need people willing to dedicate their life to fixing it by coding [22:42] Wescotte: you are probably right. I've heard some studios that do video editing /animation in linux. But for personal users nothing much in there [22:43] There are a lot of promising projects right now though.. Just not quite on the level I'm looking for [22:43] Open Shot is impressive for the amount of time it's been under development.. VLMC also looks interesting [22:44] Lumiera looks like it'll be the one but it's like 3 years into development and doesn't have anything useable yet :( [22:44] I've had a look at KDEnlive which much be OK, was very buggy last time, but I managed to produce a video [22:44] but at least it's still actively being developed [22:44] Yeah KDEnlive is okay but I've only played with it for a minute or so [22:44] http://www.1010.co.uk/gneve.html [22:44] Cinelerra is obviously too buggy [22:44] Delahunt: developing video editing software is not my cup of tea. Mainly because I know squats about it. I help out with other stuff [22:45] wooo. [22:45] you'd think the "core" NLE stuff would be fairly developed by now and you could just toss a GUI on it.. but I guess that's not the case.. [22:45] look at the time!! it's time for heavy drinking [22:45] cmk_zzz: hah I got another 24hours before it's that time for me [22:46] ah well. I'm usually ahead of the rest of you, unfortunately monday comes quicker too! [22:46] see ya [22:46] cmk_zzz (martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left ##slackware. [22:46] well, there is a man on a mission. ;) [22:47] hah [22:47] good to have goals [22:48] indeed. :) [22:57] we all do what we can [22:58] So.. back to OSX.. Anyone here installed it on a generic pc? I'm considering testing it out if it's not too much a headache.. [22:59] sluckxz (~sluckxz@24-116-8-105.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:00] escaflown (~elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] escaflown (elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [23:04] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) joined ##slackware. [23:04] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:11] NyteOwl (sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. 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[23:46] militant (~militant@173-81-26-5-pkbg.atw.dyn.suddenlink.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:47] Just setting up XChat (YChat version) on the laptop [23:47] delt0r (~delt0r@80-123-52-96.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:48] dhabyx (~dhabyx@190.149.95.145) joined ##slackware. [23:48] dhabyx (~dhabyx@190.149.95.145) left irc: Changing host [23:48] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [23:51] mm [23:51] Action: NyteOwl kicks xchat [23:52] heh [23:53] NyteOwl: what's the problem with xchat? [23:53] is part of slackware packages [23:54] I haven't used it for a while and trying to set some things :) [23:54] for example I forget how to change the text colour for my own nick and the associated text [23:55] xchat sucks [23:55] hehe [23:55] it's a dark grey and I'd like something a bit lighter [23:55] irssi ftw! [23:56] Phase403 (~Phase403@125-238-238-77.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [23:56] irsii is nice [23:56] How long does it take to compile gnome on Slackware? [23:56] Phase403: :) [23:57] ouchtime [23:57] Phase403: ahh of cousre you ask that question when you join [23:57] Lol [23:57] about as long as KDE heh [23:57] Phase403: Gnome hasn't been in slackware since about 10.2 [23:57] unfortuantely [23:57] Ah. [23:57] Phase403: However, there are 3rd party installs for it out there [23:57] gnome slackbuild is one (gsb) and .. crap what are the others... [23:57] Dropline [23:58] kevin01123 (~user@2002:4751:4123:1234:221:6bff:fe01:8106) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:58] There are a couple of others too I think [23:58] yah [23:58] people seem to prefer gsb from what I hear [23:58] Fine how many hours does it take to Compile KDE on slackware? [23:58] Phase403: http://gnomeslackbuild.org/ [23:58] Phase403: depends on your hardware [23:58] Phase403: but kDE comes on the distribution CDs [23:58] whoa -Planet of the Apes on TV [23:59] AMD Sempron 1.67Ghz [23:59] limac (~chatzilla@ool-45745b2f.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558] [23:59] that'd take you a while [23:59] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:59] 512MB DDR RAM. [23:59] Phase403: but as i said KDE is on the installation discs [23:59] quite a while then. [23:59] Ah [23:59] toastytoast (~toast@cpe-74-75-198-155.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:59] When did Slackware release it's last release? [00:00] --- Fri Feb 19 2010