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Other than that you can use KDEs power management to hibernate [00:09] yht (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:10] lolwut: that's a good question, it depends on how you have the 2 monitors set up I think [00:10] kde has a power management? isnt that for laptop only? [00:10] lolwut: I was running a 4 monitor setup across 2 video cards for a while, my windows would maximize across either the left 2 or the right 2. [00:11] lolwut: and they wouldn't be dragged from one card to another. [00:11] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [00:11] eviljames, I can show you my xorg if you want, its got a problem though lol ones a crt and the other lcd and it wont let me set the rez past 1024x768 on the crt so its bigger then the other [00:11] anyone know? [00:11] eviljames, how did you fix it? [00:11] I never did, I dismantled that workstation for parts :P [00:12] But I used it just like that for months, I didn't mind it. [00:12] I wouldnt mind it if the picture wasnt wayy off [00:12] anyhow, check out xrandr if you haven't already. query the monitors for what they tell the card they support. [00:12] my main monitor is 1280x1064 and the other is smaller [00:13] minimum 640 x 480, current 2304 x 1024, maximum 2304 x 1024 [00:13] default connected 2304x1024+0+0 0mm x 0mm [00:13] ok, so you've declared a very large desktop to be spread across the 2 screens, despite their modes not matching [00:13] which works, but I think there's some issues with that type of setup [00:14] well when i ran two differnt x servers the kde was configured right on the main one but the left one was completely stock [00:14] :'( [00:15] lolwut: depending on the app... for SDL apps (lot of games), there's an environment variable you can set that tells it which head to use [00:15] missyjane, I dont see why you couldnt use it for your desktop, are you trying to hybernate or something? [00:15] urchlay, how do I specify it? [00:16] lolwut: well if I could remember I'd already have told you :( [00:16] DISPLAY=:x.z app [00:16] lolwut, yep [00:16] plus it says "your computer seems to have partial acpi installation" [00:16] that also works with DISPLAY=[sevrver]:[display].[display] when you ssh to a machine. [00:16] eviljames: no [00:17] Urchlay: yes. I will do it right now and tell you each step. [00:17] missyjane, There is a guide on linuxquestions on how to do that gimmie a sec and I'll find it for you or you could search it [00:17] that would be for a non-xinerama (multiple desktop, one X server) setup [00:17] the thing I'm trying to remember was specific to SDL [00:17] ohh [00:17] my mistake, I thought you were correcting something else [00:18] so im kind of lost, what does 'DISPLAY=:x.z app' do? [00:18] sorry, that's not quite right [00:18] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [00:18] missyjane, http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/Mini_HOW_TO_Hibernate_and_resume_0 [00:18] It was more of an example. Open up a shell and echo $DISPLAY [00:18] alo [00:18] it returns :x.z [00:19] heh, close that terminal and open a new one [00:19] lolwut, my only problem is i dont want to have to touch my kernel [00:19] ah! SDL_VIDEO_FULLSCREEN_HEAD [00:19] because it should return :0.1 or :0.0 or something along those lines [00:19] Action: eviljames writes down Urchlay's variable. Great tip. [00:19] yeah i get :0.0 now [00:19] lolwut: you'd put a line like 'export SDL_VIDEO_FULLSCREEN_HEAD=0' in your .xinitrc or maybe .bash_profile [00:20] OldSlacker (n=OldSlack@173-24-168-161.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [00:20] wait wait wait wait [00:20] i see a suspend!! [00:20] wait nvm [00:20] or for the other monitor you'd make it =1 instead of course [00:21] where is .xinitrc? [00:21] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [00:21] lolwut: I'm not going to be of much use, I'm not sitting in front of a test machine, and would have to go digging through docs to figure it out. [00:21] lolwut: your home directory. However, if you're using graphical login instead of starting X with "startx" from a console, I think .xinitrc never gets read (anyone want to confirm?) [00:21] I use startx [00:22] ok, then ~/.xinitrc will work [00:22] eh, assuming you already have a ~/.xinitrc that starts your window manager for you, I suppose [00:23] yeah, i dont see it anywhere lol [00:23] (if you don't, "cp /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ~/.xinitrc" first, then modify the copy) [00:24] eviljames: sadly I don't use xinerama/dualhead any more [00:24] or run xwmconfig [00:24] i forced my dual / quad head setups to work via xrandr scripts called by kde's Autostart [00:24] cmk_zzz: that will create ~/.xinitrc (not the system-wide one)? [00:24] so in xinitrc put the line export SDL_VIDEO_FULLSCREEN_HEAD=0? [00:25] .xinitrc (the leading dot is important) [00:25] I found a file in that folder called xinitrc but there is not leading . [00:25] "that folder"... where? [00:26] etc/X11/xinit [00:26] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.58.99) left irc: "Leaving" [00:26] you don't want to edit that [00:26] copy /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc to your homedir and rename it to ".xinitrc" [00:26] that's what I just told him to do [00:26] cp /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ~/.xinitrc [00:26] Urchlay: correct. instead of "cp /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ~/.xinitrc" run xwmconfig? [00:26] should i copy that or xinitrc.kde? [00:26] did you think I was speaking Swahili? [00:27] lolwut: xinitrc is a symbolic link to whichever one is actually active [00:27] cmk_zzz: I did not know that... always thought xwmconfig was meant to be run by root only [00:27] slackware for life [00:28] right after you replace winders? [00:28] Urchlay: if you run it by root it creates the default one /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc otherwise it creates ~/.xinitrc [00:28] lolwut: got it now? (I have no idea how long you've been using linux, I might be making no sense at all... if so, let me know) [00:30] urchlay, yeah I think Ive got it, ive only been with it for a few weeks [00:31] Urchlay: and to confirm a question above. .xinitrc does not get run if you use gdm or kdm (not sure about xdm). But is run if you do startx or use slim for example [00:32] <|Slacker|> gotta hit the hay [00:32] <|Slacker|> see ya guys [00:32] is a bluetooth receiver a bluetooth reciever is a bluetooth reciever? Basically, Im wondering if I can use the bluetooth reciever that came with my wireless keyboard to tether my iphone, or is somehow that receiver tied to the keyboard. [00:32] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: "Leaving" [00:33] cmk_zzz: cool. Been so long since I had to mess with anybody's gui login setup, I couldn't remember... [00:34] lolwut: cool. Now lemme know if it works for whatever app it was you were talking about :) [00:34] Urchlay: I always have to fight hard to get my X settings with something that uses kdm or gdm. Highly annoying. Don't know why they decided not to run it [00:34] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "leaving" [00:35] mplayer has its own xinerama config, it won't use the SDL variable unless you set it up to use SDL for video output (not really recommended) [00:38] Arenics (n=Administ@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:42] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.11.152) joined ##slackware. [00:42] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:43] Urchlay, where does cp /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ~/.xinitrc put .xinitrc? [00:44] in the users home directory. usually /home// [00:45] ~ is a shortcut for the home directory of the current user [00:45] oh cool, i learn new stuff everyday lol [00:45] yeah, what he said :) [00:45] it didnt put it in there though [00:45] lolwut: try ls -a [00:45] oh nvm [00:46] i forgot that . is like hidden or something right? [00:46] yes [00:46] robotic (n=robotic@ip98-182-27-242.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:46] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:47] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:48] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:48] eek [00:48] doom3 is scary when playing in the dark [00:49] gets your adrenaline pumping [00:49] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:50] hm, would anyone here have a use for a script to rip the audio from youtube videos? [00:50] I need to create an AFP share on my Slackware box. Anyone know how to do that? [00:51] Urchlay: Did you make one? [00:51] yah [00:51] cool [00:51] Urchlay, so will I have to restart x for this to take effect? [00:52] I mean I wrote a 10-line one a while back, a few hours ago I went to fix a bug in it, and now it's 400 lines long and does more than I need it to :) [00:52] lolwut: yep [00:52] lol [00:52] lol [00:52] nice [00:52] ali0t4 (n=ali0t4@123.120.159.234) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:53] good night, folks:) calling it a day [00:53] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:53] http://dpaste.com/56685/ <-- if anyone's interested [00:53] I'm using current and trying to install fdm from SBo, I get this: /usr/include/asm/posix_types.h:2:30: error: posix_types_32.h: No such file or directory make: *** [fdm.o] Error 1 The posix_types_32.h file is there. version conflict? [00:54] firebird619: this is slack64? [00:54] no, slackware-current 32bit [00:55] ah. I'll be less useful trying to help with that, since I don't run it :( [00:55] heh [00:55] I've got mpop, which does about the same thing, working good. I just thought I'd try fdm as well and see what it was like. [00:56] If I could just get Kontact cooperating, I'd be good. [00:56] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:57] tried fetchmail? (or is it old & dead now? I used it for years and loved it) [00:57] yeah, I was messing with that earlier. I could get that working too, but this mpop does what I want. [00:57] how do I unmount an ISO? lol i feel retarded [00:57] umount /mnt/cdrom (or wherever you mounted it) [00:58] umount, not unmount... [00:58] I used umount /mnt/tmp and it says its not mounted [00:59] now it says its busy [00:59] what about "mount" by itself, does it mention whatever iso this is? [00:59] firebird619: heh, fdm built just fine on slack64 [00:59] firebird619: your -current may be more current though (I haven't updated it in ehhh, 2 weeks?) [01:00] heh, thanks for checking. [01:00] no unless its loop0 or loop 1 or tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs [01:00] loop0 may be it [01:00] Urchlay: btw, what do you use for an e-mail client? just curious. [01:01] firebird619: you'll laugh, but right now I'm using gmail and its nasty annoying web UI [01:01] yeah it says its busy [01:01] im gonna get out of kde and try it [01:01] brb [01:01] Urchlay: I have a gmail account, just I don't use it for everything. [01:01] firebird619: I used to admin a couple sendmail servers at my old job, that was the only email I had, then I got fired and had to set something up in a hurry to replace it... [01:01] vaibhav (n=hehe@59.92.208.35) joined ##slackware. [01:02] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:02] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:02] so nah, I won't laugh. I use whatever e-mail app I'm using at the time and get my gmail via imap. i.e. no using the web interface. :P [01:02] Kontact won't detect my ~/Maildir right, otherwise all would be fine right now. [01:02] 'ning [01:03] if I were using email anywhere near the volume I used to, I'd have been forced to set up something better by now... but I'm not as sociable as I used to be [01:03] y0 Camarade_Tux [01:03] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:03] hmmm [01:03] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:03] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [01:03] Camarade_Tux and antiwire have arrived... [01:03] do I sense a duke3d deathmatch approaching? [01:03] firebird619, I think we'll both be sleeping at the same time today ! [01:04] lol [01:04] Urchlay: chopp just tried fdm as well on slack64, with latest updates, and it worked fine. :P [01:05] for once, something that works on 64-bit that *doesn't* on 32 :) [01:05] Urchlay, hmmm no [01:05] :( [01:05] Action: Camarade_Tux ... tired [01:05] unless of course your -current box got horked somehow [01:06] heh, anythings possible, but the file it's looking for is there. :( [01:07] maybe the kernel used a jedi mind trick on the compiler... "There aren't the files your looking for" with a handwave [01:07] Anybody know how to set Kontact to look for, store, etc. all mail in ~/Maildir as opposed to ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail? [01:07] Camarade_Tux: tired? Well then I might stand a chance of beating you :) [01:08] Urchlay: heh, probably. I'm using 2.6.30 fwiw. [01:08] firebird619: maybe you could try a symlink? [01:08] egregor (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [01:08] Hmm, that might work. [01:09] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:09] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:09] I'd say, maybe ~/Maildir the symlink, and the other in ~/.kde the real file (or directory, whichever) [01:09] I'm using that mpop which downloads mail to ~/Maildir which I then am pointing Kontact at which is looking for ~/Maildir/new when the mail is in ~/Maildir/inbox/new (for received mail anyway), so it's not working as planned so far. [01:09] KDE is a lot less likely to be symlink-friendly than a command-line type app [01:10] I'd use Claws mail, but it doesn't support Maildir :( [01:10] and mpop doesn't support MH for claws. :P [01:11] bye bye. time to go [01:11] bye [01:11] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "leaving" [01:11] firebird619: were you having problems with kde migrations or was that someone else? [01:11] I think it was acidchild [01:12] antiwire: no, that wasn't me. [01:12] today, rg3 schooled me and told me that ~/.local as well as ~/.kde should be rm'd if one wishes to clear out all settings. it works great. [01:12] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: ":)" [01:12] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:13] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-154.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:13] if you only rm ~/.kde you get screwed over hardcore [01:13] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:13] I didn't know that. I always just rm'd .kde [01:13] you would think they would move .local into .kde :/ [01:13] stealth-: seroisly. [01:13] seriously. [01:14] I think .local is shared by kde and gnome [01:14] course, gnome might use local too [01:14] Urchlay: ;) [01:14] so then you would have a sync'd trash bin and etc [01:14] $ ls -l .local [01:14] ---------- 1 urchlay users 0 2009-06-09 22:19 .local [01:15] GTK apps *definitely* use the trash directory in .local, and there appears to be no way to disable it without either modifying/recompiling the app, or doing what I did to .local [01:15] Urchlay, no, you don't stand a chance, I'll be even more nervous ! =P [01:15] COMRAD [01:15] until the moment I collapse on my keyboard ;p [01:16] jeev :) [01:16] well, you might make a link from .local to /dev/null, aswell [01:16] TBird only supports mbox. :P claws only mbox and MH, opera only modified mbox of its own, what else supports Maildir? just mutt? :P [01:16] oh wait, that would be bad [01:16] nvm [01:16] XD [01:16] Camarade_Tux: bring it on! [01:16] Action: Camarade_Tux feels his arms are starting to... actually /me starts not to feel his arms anymore [01:16] Urchlay, I have an oral exam in about an hour [01:16] so I have to leave ;) [01:16] you won't feel the explosions when you step on my pipe bombs :) [01:16] comrad, putin ? [01:17] haha :p [01:17] are you guys playing eduke32 again? [01:17] dude, you going to take a powernap or something? sounds like you'll be dead in an hour [01:17] In political leader death match, Putin would beat anyone. [01:17] stealth-: trying to see if anyone wants to play, anyway [01:17] Urchlay: I want too, but I cant get it to run smoothly on any of my systems :/ [01:18] clavius (i=1000@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [01:18] putin owns [01:18] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "dont look now but I am eating all your cookies!!!" [01:18] stealth-: are they old, or you think it's just a config problem? [01:18] eduke32 is a whole lot more hardare-intensive than the DOS duke3d was... [01:18] Urchlay: well my laptop's driver doesnt support 3d, and my desktop is ubuntu and freezes when starting the campaign [01:18] ah [01:19] I can play duke nukem freely on tomorrow though ;) [01:19] if he doesn't flat out stab you spetsnaz style, he'll poison you later. [01:19] Camarade_Tux: OK, we'll fight then [01:19] although I heard they are working on 3d support for my driver. yay! [01:19] aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ! no more breakfast ! [01:20] Urchlay, I could probably play but I would be able to differentiate between the RPG and the gun >< [01:20] i completely over exerted myself today. i'll crash out early [01:20] robotic (n=robotic@ip98-182-27-242.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:21] i've done nothing all day [01:21] :) [01:21] I've done nothing all day and done plenty all night [01:21] cant tell if thats a sex joke or computer joke [01:22] no joke, truth ;) [01:22] Zer0_Cool (n=zerocool@200-140-55-245.cpece700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [01:22] I went to the doctor for some metabolism blood test results which were fine but still emotionally taxing and after that I went to the beach and surfed in 4ft surf for 3 hours [01:22] well it must be computer related then, cause if it was sex related that would be funny [01:23] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:23] stealth-, I've stayed up all night long for work [01:23] antiwire: I wish I could surf were I am :( [01:23] antiwire: were do you live? [01:23] Camarade_Tux: at home, or at work? [01:23] stealth-, home [01:24] stealth-: so cal [01:24] work meaning school [01:24] wow! [01:24] I would never do that much homework [01:24] vaibhav (n=hehe@59.92.208.35) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:24] Action: stealth- has a max homework time of 15 minutes :P [01:24] antiwire: cool [01:24] I had a max of 0 minutes when I was in school [01:25] well I aim for straight A's, so I study every now and then. [01:25] vaibhav (n=hehe@59.92.208.35) joined ##slackware. [01:25] stealth-, I was trying to code something, I've nearly managed and I could probably have done it if I hadn't slept for two hours [01:25] but I know it can be done now [01:26] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:26] I should be reading my python tutorial right now, but I really dont feel up to it :( [01:26] Urchlay, well, there is school and there is "école" in France, I'm 21 so I have a lots of things to hand [01:26] I think im gonna watch a movie [01:27] lolwut: so did your fullscreen app play nice? [01:27] hmm, movie [01:27] Urchlay, im trying it righ tnow [01:27] groovy [01:27] either the silence of the lambs, or V for Vendetta [01:27] not sure, yet [01:28] either one's good [01:28] V for Vagina [01:28] both of them are good [01:28] if I end up watching anything tonight it'll probably be old Dr. Who episodes from the 70s [01:28] time for a dice roll [01:28] thought silence of the lambs i would prefer [01:29] did anyone see Red dragon? [01:29] volkerdi (i=3321@slackware.com) joined ##slackware. [01:29] V for Vandetta... anyone ever seen a VW Vandetta? [01:29] Action: stealth- is watching hannible movies in order [01:29] yep [01:29] seen all hannibal movies [01:29] when the red dragon guy shot someone inside the burning house, who was it? [01:30] theres a dead body, but only two people in the house and they both leave alive.......... [01:30] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:30] stealth-: skip the "hannibal rising" prequel [01:31] it sucks... [01:31] hmmm, a volkerdi :) [01:31] Urchlay, it didnt work :-( [01:31] stealth: watched it long time back...so dont actually remember much [01:31] lolwut: what app? (either you didn't say or I missed it) [01:31] Urchlay: I've already seen hannibal rising, hence the part where I watched them in order and im on the 3rd one ;) [01:31] vaibhav: k, thanks anyways [01:31] morning volkerdi (or evening, or whatever) [01:31] Urchlay, lol its sims3 but just testing out wine. I downloaded it for my gf [01:32] half past midnight here [01:32] Hi volkerdi [01:33] lolwut: ah. You should have mentioned it was wine, saved a lot of time & effort (I would have told you "it won't work").. but hey, you learned something, and you're set up for when you start playing linux native games [01:33] l0lwut (n=lolwut@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:33] I have the feeling I just typed all that for no reason :) [01:34] ah, found who it was. thanks google [01:34] If you said something to me sorry, I switched nic cards and wasnt thinking lol [01:35] lolwut: if you'd said wine to start with, you wouldn't have had to edit text files and such (wine doesn't use SDL, that environment variable has no effect...) [01:35] eh, but now you're set up for when you want to play linux native games, so it's not a total loss [01:35] Urchlay, oh...I thought i did say wine? So how to I change it in wine? [01:36] I have no idea :) [01:36] Urchlay, would it be eaiser to just switch to independant X servers? [01:36] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431443.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:36] in fact, back when I was running xinerama, the only way I got wine games to play sanely was to start a 2nd X session, on one monitor only [01:36] (well, or else play them in a window, for the ones that support that) [01:37] Ok so I can run two x servers at once but is there anyway to have the kde configuration from window one on window 2 aswell? When I do it all my installed stuff and everything is on my first head but the second one is like a fresh install [01:38] Was anyone brave enough to try those beta Intel video drivers, or do we all have mVidia or ATI here? :-D [01:38] Action: frullet rocks the ATI [01:38] l0lwut: dunno. Not running KDE here... [01:38] Urchlay, what do you run? [01:38] windowmaker [01:38] Hey frullet, how's it going? [01:39] firebird619: doing well buddy, yourself [01:39] but... for the 2nd X session, if you're running only a fullscreen wine app, you really don't need a window manager at all [01:39] Urchlay: got fetchmail working now too. :D [01:39] frullet: doing excellent, thanks. Just working on some e-mail stuff and figuring out why kontact won't see my ~/Maildir directory right. :P [01:40] hi [01:40] firebird619: fetchmail is probably like adding a kitchen sink to whatever you were using before :) [01:40] Urchlay, can you start x without using a window manager? [01:40] thefixr (n=mm@cpe-76-170-71-14.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:40] volkerdi: I use nvidia here, but I believe eviljames plans on trying those intel drivers. I'm not sure if he's still around atm. [01:40] l0lwut: sure. "xinit -- :1 /usr/bin/xterm" would give you a single terminal window and no wm [01:41] hey volkerdi [01:41] Urchlay: heh, nice, I don't need the whole sink, just the faucet. :P [01:41] Finally back online. [01:41] i have a possible bug to ask about [01:41] Anyway, both openchrome and vesa Xorg drivers don't work on my laptop now. [01:41] l0lwut: eh, I got that wrong. "xinit /usr/bin/xterm -- :1" [01:41] openchrome rejects every resolution, and vesa doesn't pick up any modes. [01:41] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-110-253.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:42] http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/tktview?tn=3555 do you have ncurse linked with -ldl? [01:42] thefixr (n=mm@cpe-76-170-71-14.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [01:42] l0lwut: if you replace /usr/bin/xterm with the full path to a shell script wrapper that runs your game... [01:42] Action: init[1] o/ [01:42] juice: yes it is [01:42] i have built libsndfile which will error on compile because of that [01:42] hmm odd then [01:42] Urchlay, can I have two instances of x running at once? [01:43] juice: and libsndfile links ncurses, or just sqlite? [01:43] l0lwut: sure [01:43] Urchlay, sorry bout the flood of questions im kind of new lol [01:43] thefixr (n=mm@cpe-76-170-71-14.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:43] i think just sqlite [01:43] l0lwut: first thing for you to do might be to read "man xinit" [01:43] thebigh (n=herbert@adsl-99-30-107-2.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:43] l0lwut: (yeah, I know, you've heard "RTFM" all too many times, but...) [01:44] hi [01:44] juice: libsndfile should be using the sqlite3.pc pkgconfig file, but it it's ignoring it then you'll have to edit the Makefile yourself to add the -ldl. [01:44] anybody else on current have keyboard problems in X? [01:45] Urchlay, I dont mind reading lol and I dont expect you to explain ecerything [01:45] yeah it was from the slackbuild of it [01:45] thebigh, random try : do you have hal disabled ? [01:45] l0lwut: that's a good thing, cause I don't really know everything :) [01:45] i emailed the maintainer about it just was checking to see if it was an issue higher up [01:45] no [01:45] rworkman said he thought it had been fixed [01:46] just have to add LDFLAGS= "-ldl" \ to the slackbuild [01:46] then it worked [01:46] hmm, oh well [01:46] Action: volkerdi since volkerdi is bored and killing time, the libsndfile compile begins [01:46] juice: is this liquidwar6? (was that you that was talking about that last week?) [01:47] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.52.209.210) left irc: "leaving" [01:47] nope??? [01:47] what's that lol? [01:47] is this a libsndfile issue pertaining to slackware64 only? [01:47] thank god for hjkl in vim or I'd be flipping back out of X constantly [01:47] this is on 12.2 [01:47] ok, never ye mind then. It's a game, I was going to tell you it's been posted on SBo [01:47] oh [01:47] nope but I might look at it [01:48] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:48] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:48] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:49] lol holding down any key for more than a second kills X [01:49] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:49] juice: what I did was just patch the configure script itself to add the -ldl where needed [01:49] thebigh, hahaha :p [01:49] yeah me too [01:49] err [01:49] i added to the slackbuild [01:50] but also emailed the maintainer so he could fix it [01:50] thebigh (n=herbert@adsl-99-30-107-2.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:50] you know, I was going to mail the liquidwar6 maintainer, and utterly forgot to do it [01:50] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-154.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:50] gotta go, school [01:50] 2.6.29.5 kernel update for -current is out, btw [01:50] be back in 90 minutes ;) [01:50] Camarade_Tux: good luck [01:50] Urchlay, hehe [01:51] or anyway knock 'em dead [01:51] Urchlay :) [01:51] Urchlay, I'd really like to ko one of the teacher I'll see [01:51] Heh, I'm still struggling with the last -current update and xorg. [01:51] plus, since I'm tired, I might actually do it;) [01:51] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [01:51] volkerdi, should get something like this [01:51] http://pastebin.com/m7e8fe709 [01:51] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.162.94) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:51] I think the whole world is struggling with X.org. [01:52] how to you get two moniters, anyways? dont most cards just come with only one hookup? [01:52] l0lwut (n=lolwut@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:52] mine has 2 [01:52] why's libsndfile need to link with sqlite again? [01:52] Nick change: init[1] -> init[1]|znc [01:52] juice: hmmmm, guess ill go buy a new vid card :) [01:52] 8600 gts has 2 dvi outputs [01:52] (I mean unless I misunderstand what libsndfile is for, it doesn't make a whole lotta sense) [01:52] juice: It compiled fine here... [01:52] on -current? [01:52] or 12.2? [01:52] Slackware64 -current [01:53] that's probably why [01:53] :P [01:53] it could have to do with the sqlite version [01:53] But... the fix (which is -ldl in sqlite3.pc) is also in 12.2, as it shipped. I checked that when you mentioned 12.2. [01:53] i'm not sure if that got fixed [01:53] odd [01:53] rworkman, thought that it was too [01:53] wonder why it fails then ... [01:54] juice: No, the bug remains in vanilla sqlite [01:54] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-19-129-196.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:54] Gubbe (i=noone@unaffiliated/gubbe) joined ##slackware. [01:54] ok [01:54] juice: is your sqlite from a package, or a source install? [01:54] libsndfile may require [01:54] the addition of "/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig" to the [01:54] PKG_CONFIG_PATH [01:54] grep -- -ldl /usr/lib/pkgconfig/sqlite3.pc [01:54] could this need tweaking [01:55] k [01:55] sed -i 's|Libs: -L${libdir} -lsqlite3|Libs: -L${libdir} -lsqlite3 -ldl|g' sqlite3.pc [01:56] package [01:57] hey does anyone feel like helping with curl ? and post methods ? [01:57] seriously, no answer to my possibly dumb question, what does a sound file library even need an embedded SQL database for? [01:57] not sure that's why i didn't answer [01:57] Maybe I'm not fulling in this conversation but I've got libsndfile 1.0.18 building with sqlite support on current. This must be a 12.2 specific issue? [01:58] fulling/fully [01:58] hmm I guess I could reinstall sqlite to make sure [01:59] juice: you could also grab alienBOB's prebuilt libsndfile package and skip past the problem [01:59] yeah I talked him about it [01:59] like I said I got it to compile [01:59] was just trying to figure out why I had to add the LDFLAGS options [01:59] I tested 1.0.20 here [01:59] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:00] okay if it works then must be soemthing locally [02:00] juice: Oh, well I could tell you why. [02:00] i'll try reinstalling the sqlite pack [02:00] The vanilla sqlite requires -ldl (even for part of itself), but didn't put -ldl in the sqlite3.pc (where programs get the required library dependencies from) [02:01] The reason sqlite compiles at all is that it also needs ncurses, and that happens to link with -ldl, bringing it in accidentally to save the compile [02:01] ic [02:02] But anything that uses vanilla sqlite (without a patched sqlite3.pc with -ldl in it) that doesn't just happen to link some other library that brings in -ldl is going to fail [02:02] So I guess the magic has been done for me under current [02:02] 12.2, too. [02:02] looking at the libsndfile sources and still can't figure out what it actually uses sqlite for... [02:02] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:04] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:04] hmm k [02:04] it worked now [02:04] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [02:04] reinstalled sqlite and now it compiled :) [02:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:05] it only seems to be referenced in any C sources in regtest/ (the regression test suite), WTF? [02:05] maybe --disable-sqlite is a good option to use with libsndfile [02:05] am thinking so, yes [02:06] volkerdi, thank you for slackware and slackware64 [02:07] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:08] TwinReverb: I hope they work ;-) [02:08] volkerdi, will slackware 13 have ext4 support? [02:09] juice, -current already has ext4 support iirc [02:09] oh then that answers that [02:09] Indeed. [02:09] i could swear i saw it listed when i went to install -current to play with [02:09] haven't been following -current much for the release [02:09] Is ext4 even safe to use in a production setting yet? [02:09] s/the/this [02:09] iirc, it's the default filesystem [02:09] TwinReverb, it's been listed for a while. [02:09] you can build an installer media using the /isolinux README [02:10] And by "a while" I mean "at least three months". [02:10] I've had no problems with ext4 whatsoever in testing it here [02:10] The only "problem" I had was that grub couldn't boot it until it was patched. [02:11] yeah since march 16 heh way behind [02:11] volkerdi: your tests included yanking the power cord during heavy I/O? [02:11] thebigh (n=herbert@adsl-99-30-107-2.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:11] hi again [02:11] Urchlay: I know about that issue. [02:11] I don't :) [02:11] hi [02:11] i think the new xorg has problems with nvidia [02:12] hmm [02:12] thebigh, tried the vesa driver to see if it's an xorg issue? [02:12] thebigh: if you're speaking of the proprietary driver, the correct phrasing is "nvidia has a problem with the new xorg", though... [02:12] volkerdi, would you be interested in including a "don't fsck filesystems if booting while battery is discharging" logic similar to debian? [02:12] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.153.209.197) joined ##slackware. [02:12] hmm [02:12] maybe [02:13] TwinReverb: That's not a bad idea. Really, I think the whole idea of a default number of mounts before checking a drive has been pretty much obsolete for a while. [02:14] But, as long as Ted includes it in e2fsck, I'll follow his recommended defaults [02:14] volkerdi, the only problem i ever had with 12.2 or current is that if you're one of those who use sda1 as / and sda2 as a LUKS partition with LVM2 on it for swap and /home, the order of cryptsetup / vgchange in rc.S and rc.6 needs to be reversed, that's all, but that's easy [02:14] volkerdi, i'll send you my amateur scripting to that effect [02:15] thebigh (n=herbert@adsl-99-30-107-2.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:15] Usually when there's some init order thing like that, it means there's no order that won't cause side effects for some corner case [02:15] volkerdi, also, would you be interested in a startup script that detects (for those who use the dual switchable laptop graphics card setup of intel / nvidia) which card is in use and directs Xorg to the right one? or do you think the Xorg HAL integration will cure that? [02:16] inernet didnt die today sweet [02:16] Hey nix_chix0r, how's it going? [02:16] TwinReverb: I think you're on your own with that one [02:16] volkerdi, or maybe just add another "vgscan --mknodes && vgchange -ay" in rc.S ? granted someone could probably edit their rc.local and rc.local_shutdown like i did .... [02:16] Though, now that you don't really even need an xorg.conf it should be less of a problem. [02:16] vaibhav (n=hehe@59.92.208.35) left irc: [02:17] yeah i just thought of that [02:17] if we want to install slack on a luks partition but with our own compiled kernel (dm-crypt compiled hard not module), does we need initrd ? [02:17] i think some people had problems with Xorg using its own nv rather than their built nvidia modules or something but i would think that's easy to fix [02:17] Thom1, it depends [02:17] if you do like i do with / on sda1 and only swap and home via LVM2 on sda2 LUKS, no [02:18] If everything is encrypted then you need an initrd [02:18] if you read README.CRYPT or whatever the file is that alienBOB wrote that is on the slackware mirrors, you have instructions for how to do only a /boot as sda1 and the rest as LVM2/LUKS [02:18] ok [02:18] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:18] so if you don't encrypt /, no. if you encrypt everything but /boot, yes [02:18] thebigh (n=herbert@adsl-99-30-107-2.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:18] TwinReverb, I read it but I'm not english so I prefer ask [02:18] oh [02:18] don't want anyone reading the secret messages you encoded in your /bin/ls binary, better encrypt / [02:18] no problem bro, i don't mind helping you understand 8-) [02:18] yeah, definately an nvidia only problem [02:19] thebigh: using proprietary driver or nv? [02:19] proprietary driver [02:19] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:19] Thom1: you need the initrd even if you use your own kernel with the filesystem drivers and all that built in because the initrd is what allows you to unlock the partition [02:19] Action: Urchlay has been avoiding updating xorg because he's stuck with a "legacy" version of the proprietary nvidia driver [02:20] firebird619, monkey boy gets shots thursday if they dont cancel again [02:20] TwinReverb, I'm having issues with openchrome AND vesa drivers. [02:20] Urchlay: do you know if nv supports multiple monitors? [02:20] Action: slava_dp has the same issue as Urchlay [02:20] antiwire, I always used my own kernel without initrd [02:20] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-165-97.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:20] i have infant tylenol now so i can give him half a dose an hour before and that should prevent a fever and eas pain a bit [02:20] thebigh, look for Xinerama/. [02:20] Thom1: for luks? [02:20] nix_chix0r: Well, if they do, maybe they'll actually let you know this time. [02:20] antiwire, no no [02:20] Thom1: I'm talking about your question about luks and initrds [02:20] Thom1: you need the initrd. [02:20] thebigh: no I don't... it didn't 4 or 5 years ago, last I tried it [02:20] volkerdi, would you mind if i requested that we change the setup logic during CONFIG so that it asks if we want to use wicd or if we would rather set up rc.inet1.conf ? for those who prefer wicd it causes you to wait 30 extra seconds at boot until dhcpcd realizes there's nothing on eth0 lol [02:20] antiwire, ok sorry, I thinked you were speaking about non luks partition [02:21] Urchlay: yeah, I had the same problem as I recall [02:21] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [02:21] Thom1: in the context of luks, the initrd unlocks the partition regardless of the fs/ide/ata drivers or not [02:21] TwinReverb: Is there a reason you told netconfig to set up DHCP? [02:21] i mean when/if i install i uisually go to /mnt/* and chroot and start configuring before first boot, but still .... [02:22] usually i select "yes" because i want to configure my host name but you have a point.... [02:22] it's too bad there's no reliable way to detect when the ethernet cable's unplugged... [02:22] TwinReverb, you can select "loopback only" [02:23] slava_dp, didn't know that. thanks! 8-) [02:23] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:25] my firefox died again. oh noes. [02:25] Action: slava_dp hopes for 3.5 to be better. [02:25] Finally fixed it. [02:25] liol [02:26] With my KM400 chip, openchrome and vesa both fail to find any modes (they're all rejected" [02:26] I had to set the vertical/horizontal ranges. [02:26] I think this is the one time the ubuntu bug tracker helped out. [02:27] Well, KDE apparently still hangs while loading. :| [02:28] Urchlay, you mean like [02:28] nm-tool | grep -m 1 -i state [02:28] State: connected [02:28] :P [02:28] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [02:29] pretty reliable to tell you if the cable is plugged in or not [02:29] juice, nm-tool? not a part of slackware? [02:29] volkerdi, so do you think we're getting close to a 13.0-rc1 ? [02:29] nope thirdparty [02:29] slava_dp, part of network manager [02:30] TwinReverb, I'm hoping openchrome gets fixed before then. :( [02:30] there is only kde on the cd3-install.iso, isn't there ? [02:30] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d1784392e1199dd3) joined ##slackware. [02:31] juice, networkmanager is evil. [02:31] volkerdi, and with the extra space that the txz format has opened up, is there any plan to add things like openoffice or skype in /extra ? rworkman's packages for those two have been super reliable ... [02:31] lol [02:32] Thom1: yes, and kdei [02:32] TwinReverb, no skype please. closed source. [02:32] volkerdi, my vote for openoffice in /extra. [02:32] slava_dp, then don't install it [02:32] open office would be nice [02:33] juice: from what I've read, that doesn't always work correctly [02:33] has for me so far [02:33] but I haven't done hardcore testing on it [02:33] is there a text file who tells waht series is on cd1 cd2 cd3, because I need to know what's on cd2 (is that english ?) ? [02:33] i would think that both of those items would have a high amount of "other distro" appeal in the sense that people could no longer blame us for lack of openoffice or skype but it's just a thought [02:33] i really don't care what their reasons are, just a thought though [02:34] Thom1: http://www.slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php [02:34] /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 talks about it... although mm-tool isn't mentioned [02:34] Maybe someone could put together a "best of slackbuilds" "distro" that fits on a CD. [02:34] chopp, thanks a lot :) [02:34] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:34] Thom1: you're welcome [02:34] chopp: that url you gave me fixed fetchmail. :) [02:34] looks like oo is going down the tubes anyway, if office than maybe that goo thing or another office solution [02:34] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:35] TwinReverb, no, srsly, we can't redistribute closed source. you're welcome to download it if you want it. (but better stay away from it) [02:35] ccfreak2k, actually, hacking the install process isn't difficult but i wouldn't want to do that because that would come across as offensive [02:35] firebird619: hey great :) [02:35] slava_dp, why not? you ask for openoffice which is a redistribute (good luck compiling it) and firefox which is a redistribute [02:35] skibur (n=skibur@ppp-69-153-67-180.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:35] TwinReverb, they are open source. that is the difference. [02:36] chopp: I'm gonna try mutt too. :P I'm just looking at the man page for muttrc. [02:36] i. e. *free software* <- TwinReverb [02:36] i doubt Skype is going to refuse to give Patrick the right to redistribute it [02:36] so really it's up to the end-user if they want to install it or not [02:36] volkerdi (i=3321@slackware.com) left irc: "leaving" [02:36] TwinReverb, that's *not* the point! [02:37] it may not be the point for you, but it is for me [02:37] anyone familiar with google wave? [02:37] firebird619: I've played with it a bit, but not much :P [02:37] when you're half a world apart from your family, you don't care much about the "omg it's not open source!" arguments: you just want to talk with your family [02:37] TwinReverb, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software <-- go read the definition. and don't use skype. [02:37] heh. We either scared him off, or else we bored him to death... [02:37] that will take over how office docs are done in my opinion [02:38] i'll use whatever i want, so don't tell me what i can and cannot use. welcome to /ignore [02:38] TwinReverb, use ekiga, linphone or any other sip softphone. they all work. [02:38] ekiga works good here [02:38] clavius (i=1000@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: "client exploded" [02:39] what's my name..snoop dog. hustle and ball [02:39] TwinReverb, go on. as if i cared. [02:39] boobs and other random things inserted [02:39] Action: TwinReverb tickles nix_chix0r [02:40] add a pineapple [02:40] Action: chopp mirrors -current updates [02:40] Action: slava_dp checks out mail [02:40] thefixr (n=mm@cpe-76-170-71-14.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [02:40] mm_ (n=mm@cpe-76-170-71-14.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:40] as soon as -rc1 comes out i'm installing it on my dual core (slackware64) and my old laptop (slackware) [02:40] Nick change: mm_ -> thefixr [02:41] oh just in case you guys didn't know, there are mp3 players that support ogg and flac. iRiver makes several that are Linux friendly btw [02:41] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-130-200.aei.ca) left irc: "Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de" [02:41] TwinReverb, this weekend i'll have a pimp media pc set up on my 40" [02:41] thefixr: my dishwasher is broke [02:41] thebigh (n=herbert@adsl-99-30-107-2.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:41] nix_chix0r, nice, what brand and model? [02:42] chopp: I will get right on it [02:42] thefixr: :-) [02:42] well i built it gradually over the course of a year [02:42] i'm trying to think [02:43] a nice large media PC screen like that (one of those touch screen ones) would be pimp if the touch features worked in Linux. i think HP had one and i don't know if the touch features work in Linux (yet) [02:43] it's an asus motherboard am2 i have amd athlon 64 x2 6000, 2tb seagates 7200rpm sATA [02:43] slava_dp, might as well say the same thing about the nvidia and ati slackbuilds. Those aren't "free software"! [02:44] 4gb ram [02:44] slKIvs (n=ivan@228.112.79.69.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:44] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-130-200.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [02:44] shitty video card though heh [02:44] never know what to buy in reguards to that cause i don't game [02:45] ccfreak2k, you may install whatever you wish on *your* system. you may even install windows x_x. but that doesn't mean you should distribute proprietary software on the installation media for linux. [02:45] i'm not necessarily here for the open source, although it's nice. i can't read the source code yet. i just wanted something better than Windows and that's exactly what I found [02:45] i used to program a bit in BASIC / QBasic but that was years ago [02:46] likevinyl (n=guapoenc@190.245.121.39) joined ##slackware. [02:46] :) [02:46] nix_chix0r, intel chipsets for video aren't that bad for Linux, but some of their cards are very picky as to what modes they like for framebuffer [02:46] nix_chix0r: myth/slack? [02:46] chopp, i was thinking so yeah [02:47] myth tv [02:47] although i'm just going to get a wirless keyboard and mouse and maybe just have slack and use mplayer [02:47] for example, my old intel 865 demands framebuffer if you don't want to crash Xorg when you switch to/from VT, but it works great when set up properly. [02:48] i was having issues with my tv hookups to the computer. [02:48] nix_chix0r: I meant slackware, and mythtv [02:48] it said dvi but vga seemed to fit in there [02:48] the Intel 945 that i have now hates all framebuffer modes, period, and so i can't use framebuffer at all (but i don't care because normally i use vga=normal as a default) [02:48] and there are hdmi ports as well i need to get a converter it seems [02:49] oh well brb laundry time [02:49] and then make sure i get the resolutions right. i'm not putting gentoo on that shit that's for sure it would be a pain in the rear [02:49] chopp, yeah. [02:50] sorry having a kid seems to have sucked my attention span, sleep, and memory [02:50] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Success [02:50] been there, done that. Don't forget funds [02:51] he's still on formula i haven't really noticed a difference as far as costs go [02:51] i'm sure once he's a teenager and grazing the fridge 24/7 i'll notice [02:51] he's 6mon and not in your purse yet :P [02:52] as in grabbing money from me? i'd beat his ass [02:52] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:53] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:53] chopp: 7920 e-mails in my Inbox in Claws. I'm archiving right now. :P [02:53] i got dirty looks at work when a co worker passed i was b.ssing to another and saying if i ever caught him doing shit he wasn't supposed to be doing i'd beat his ass and i just got this you're going to hell glare [02:53] lol [02:54] firebird619: wtf...dude you gotta cut back on the cyber dating [02:54] hahahahaha [02:54] i've secretly been spamming firebird619 [02:54] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "nooper" [02:54] I suspected it was you. :) [02:54] someone has [02:55] i am a russian mail order bride my grandma is in the hospital and i need you to send me money for her surgery [02:55] help plz [02:55] lol [02:55] and attachments too..omg [02:56] chopp: yeah, I don't know where nix_chix0r finds all these images, but she sends em. :P [02:56] i love google what can i say [02:56] yeah I've seen those...err I mean.. [02:57] chopp: you think this is bad, you should see how many opera reports in my received folder. :D [02:57] man old navy rocks. they're the only store that has decent petite sizes that don't look like little girls [02:57] nix_chix0r: No kidding. [02:57] mini sized professional outfits [02:57] opera reports? [02:57] petite? [02:57] Action: chopp runs [02:58] hahaha [02:58] i'm no wimp though [02:58] i can bench more than 40pounds:P [02:58] chopp: Opera shows, in my received folder (counting duplicates mind you) 134875. :D [02:58] nix_chix0r: wow, soon you won't be able to lift your kid. :P [02:58] i wonder what he's laughing at in the bedroom [02:59] too lazy to find out [02:59] lookin at jeans [02:59] i saw him all day [02:59] :)) [02:59] i go to his office a lot just to say hi cause i'm bored haha [02:59] I think chopp run for the hills. [02:59] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.153.209.197) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:00] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [03:00] Action: chopp watches Push [03:00] although tomorrow i'll be hella busy [03:00] i have a phone appointment that will probally take 3 hours [03:00] this guy is so fucking stubborn [03:01] i've been trying to ge a work history out of him for weeks and he's like "i'm dying what do i have to do take all of you down if i dont get money from the gov'ment. i'm just gona go hang myself" [03:01] SSA can't help his old ass if he doesn't want to give us his work history [03:01] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:01] oh well, don't put up with his childishness [03:01] he said once he gets his benifits, he'll hang himself and let his wife collect off him [03:01] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:01] i'm not tomorrow is his final straw [03:02] i'd document what he said and stop working on his case 8-) [03:02] like i said before, we don't make money unless he client wins and sometimes it can take up to 3 years for them to get approved and most of the time they aren't working so they are barely making it on welfare assistance alot of the times their homes are forclosed [03:03] and as of november they are taking away free medical care for welfare people. [03:03] which means these clients of ours will not be able to afford to get their medications or see doctors and so they wil probally wither away [03:05] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [03:05] makes me appreciate having a great job [03:06] and a lot of things we take for granted [03:06] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [03:08] they should be happy that there is even any relief for those who need it in this country [03:08] my philosophy has long been "if you don't work, you don't eat" etc [03:08] TClayton_ (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-183-173.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [03:08] and even then, one could ask what they did with all their money all their life. stupid choices? bad circumstances? [03:08] oh i agree and there area a lot of people we rep and usually drop because we feel they should just get off their ass [03:08] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:09] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: "Leaving" [03:10] they shouldn't take away medical though [03:10] thefixr (n=mm@cpe-76-170-71-14.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [03:11] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. 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[03:28] morning [03:28] thefixr (n=thefixr@cpe-76-170-71-14.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:29] thefixr (n=thefixr@cpe-76-170-71-14.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:30] y0 slackytude, how's it going? [03:30] greetings firebird619, Im doing good for 9:39 am. How are you on this fine sunny day? [03:31] doing excellent, thanks. I was just messing with mail stuff. I got this app called mpop configured and working that checks my mail and stores it in ~/Maildir. I just added it to crontab to so it automatically checks. [03:32] sorta like fetchmail? [03:32] thefixr (n=thefixr@cpe-76-170-71-14.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:32] yeah, sort of. I also have fetchmail working, but I think this mpop will do just what I need. [03:32] oi [03:33] I like the new opera stuff [03:34] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:34] browser still feels lightweight and its fast. I hope it will be out of beta soon [03:34] I was trying to get kontact working with seeing the ~/Maildir, but it isn't working quite right. I prefer using my opera mail, but with the issues I have had lately, I needed to get this set up to get mails as a sort of backup plan. mpop downloads in maildir, which of course opera doesn't support. I'm going to look into imapd or something to maybe serve the mail mpop gets to imap and have opera get that. [03:35] yeah, I love the new opera stuff, and to think all the new stuff isn't added yet. [03:35] Im so glad I use imap O_o [03:35] I would be too if my isp had it. :P [03:36] for regular customers. They do have it for business customers. [03:36] university account ^-^ [03:37] Sweet, looks like imapd is just what I need. This is all coming together nicely now. :) [03:37] heh ^-^ [03:37] need help: /etc/group file modified http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/problem-slackware-missed-additional-group-audio-when-use-slim-733816/?posted=1#post3578006 [03:38] slackytude: now to find a sample imapd config and get that going, then I can finally use opera, have imap, and not worry about it. :P [03:38] sounds like a plan [03:39] indeed. I'm so loving the opera snapshots, they are just amazing. [03:39] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [03:39] e280s, thats your problem? [03:39] This new skin is really coming together. [03:39] firebird619, yeah, feels kinda unfinished tho [03:39] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:40] yeah, it's still very much a work in progress, but it's coming together quite well. The one working on this skin is the same guy that did FF's theme. [03:41] heh, man imapd leaves much to be desired. :P [03:42] slackytude: yes, [03:42] e280s, well, I suppose you could just add yourself to the missing groups [03:43] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:44] slackytude: i have did that, but run command "id" and "groups", i'm still not a member of the groups [03:44] slackytude: and, run alsamixer, still greeted the error message [03:44] e280s, how did you add yourself? and you need to logout and login for it to take effect. these days, you should restart d-bus as well [03:45] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03B90.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [03:45] thefixr (n=thefixr@cpe-76-170-71-14.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:46] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:46] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:46] slackytude: gpasswd -a $user audio, but i didn't logged out and login. i remember don't need re-login [03:46] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.11.152) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:47] e280s, well, you do! [03:47] slackytude: wait for a while... [03:47] Im always here -_- [03:47] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Operation timed out [03:49] steelwolf180 (n=max@bb116-15-4-193.singnet.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [03:49] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [03:50] slackytude: looks like imapd is quite easy to set up. :D [03:50] e280s (n=jupengfe@58.30.9.140) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:51] e280s (n=e280s4ev@58.30.9.140) joined ##slackware. [03:54] slackytude: oh ,it works! thanks very much, i have added myself into the groups manually [03:54] slackytude: but i remember it don't need to do that... 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[04:44] dhclient always fails. dhcpcd never. [04:44] Action: slava_dp is thinking, should he try the new wicd 1.6.0 or should he not bother? [04:45] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:47] every time I come here someone's having problem with their wifi.. while you guys are spending years just fixing your tools, people are using easy things and getting on with their lives [04:48] so yeah, get a damn utility gui and run with it! [04:48] sorry, you've mistaken us for someone else [04:48] Whatsyourname (n=srpggaer@61.51.159.250) joined ##slackware. [04:48] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.242) left irc: "Leaving." [04:48] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.242) joined ##slackware. [04:49] and looking for help? haha [04:49] hey chopp :) [04:49] hey [04:50] chopp: from you yesterday's tip i understood qfaf :P [04:50] Hm? [04:50] qfaf: joking man .. :) [04:53] amazon open's kindle source http://s3.amazonaws.com/kindle/Kindle_src.1.0.0.292.tar [04:54] qfaf, man i think you got me wrong. i'm using wicd 1.5.9. just wondered if i should be upgrading it. [04:54] pupit1 (n=pupit@93.86.1.129) joined ##slackware. [04:54] Action: init[1]|znc not sure if im the last one to hear this :) [04:54] wtf is kindle [04:54] slava_dp, device by amazon, an ebook reader [04:54] slava_dp: its kind of amazon specific ebook reader [04:54] ah, cool [04:55] pupit1 (n=pupit@93.86.1.129) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:55] slava_dp: is that X event sniffing problem solved? [04:56] init[1]|znc, yep. i've built xtruss (with the help of the developer, since the available source was broken) and it works all right. [04:56] slava_dp: with the help of Xorg developers ? [04:57] pupit1 (n=pupit@93.86.1.129) joined ##slackware. [04:57] o-0 [04:57] init[1]|znc, nope, the xtruss dev. [04:57] init[1]|znc, http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/xtruss/ [04:57] ooh, so the touch screen works now right [04:58] pupit1 (n=pupit@93.86.1.129) left irc: Client Quit [04:58] well not yet since i've not yet scripted what i wanted to do. but the base is laid. [04:59] qfaf, ? [04:59] slava_dp: aaha... it better if we learn the Xlib API and program it [04:59] TwinReverb, is there any on-screem solution that comes with slackware? [04:59] screen* [05:00] on-screen keyboard :) preferably, one that understands what layout is used by scim (or kxkb) and displays that [05:01] Reav_ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [05:02] qfaf, erm, there was an onscreen keyboard in kde, wasn't there? (don't have kde here, so i might be wrong) [05:03] slava_dp, I am using KDE 3.5.. I don't see it anywhere [05:03] is it faster to search 2000 entries by index, or 7 entries without index? [05:03] qfaf, on-screen what? keyboard? yeah KDE should come with one if you installed kdeaccessibility [05:03] and i think there's one for X too [05:04] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [05:04] nooper, test it and let us know [05:04] if you installed kdeaccessibility <- does that mean I should have it if I selected "full" in the install? [05:05] yes you should [05:05] nope, then I don't see it in Accessibility.. there are 5 other things under there, but no on-screen keyboard [05:06] that's strange, i could swear there was one ... [05:06] qfaf, grep /bin/ /var/log/packages/kdeaccessibility* <-- to see which binaries were installed by it. [05:07] /usr/bin/kmouth /n usr/bin/ksayit /n usr/bin/kttsd /n usr/bin/kttsmgr / usr/bin/kmag /n usr/bin/kmousetool [05:07] and as you can see, none have to do with on-screen keyboards [05:08] wow [05:08] index over 2000 entries is faster [05:11] Nick change: StevenR_ -> StevenR [05:11] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.242) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:17] does anyone here use rtorrent? [05:19] egregor (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [05:20] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "I believe in christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything [05:20] grissiom (n=grissiom@219.239.227.225) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:20] qfaf (n=fqa@cpe-24-92-71-240.wi.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("::"). [05:22] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [05:26] roorah_ (n=foo@87.244.223.14) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:26] icarus: yes [05:27] i do [05:27] nooper: i asked in #rtorrent and they're helping me out [05:27] k [05:27] im trying to figure out how to move different completions to different directories [05:28] i dont know that anyway [05:28] High_Priest (n=Mean@nat/ibm/session) joined ##slackware. [05:29] hi [05:29] nooper: hah [05:33] vaibhav (n=hehe@59.92.208.35) joined ##slackware. [05:33] Hermann (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [05:36] Kiyiko (n=kvirc@ogdn-03-222.dsl.netins.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:38] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [05:39] groo (n=groo@187.46.122.67) joined ##slackware. [05:39] groo_ (n=groo@187.46.122.67) joined ##slackware. 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[05:51] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.129) left irc: Client Quit [05:52] frullet, hot [05:52] frullet, how is it going for you ? [05:52] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:53] rworkman, on my friend's eeepc, with almost latest -current, the display sometimes flicker, and my friend told me there were also X freezes [05:54] put volkerdi's xf86-video-intel-2.7.99, gonna see how it goes [05:54] (kms disabled afaik) [05:59] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:00] Camarade_Tux: pretty well mate, finnished all of my assessments, so i have nothing but time on my hands for once :) [06:01] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.66) joined ##slackware. [06:01] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [06:03] frullet, nice :) [06:05] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Success [06:05] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. 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[06:34] kama (n=kama@host76-118-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [06:35] Nick change: NoSuchNik -> Nosuchnik_aw [06:38] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [06:40] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d1784392e1199dd3) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:43] also it is okey for the env path to contain more than ":" as a separator ? [06:44] more than : ? [06:44] paul424 : have you tried #java? [06:44] you could set the classpath in your .bashrc [06:44] or have a script that sets the class path and calls the java stuff afterwards [06:45] slackytude: ok I found that i can set it globaly for all users exept root in /etc/profile .... [06:46] I mean i have foostring1:foosting2:foostring3 [06:46] will it also work if it wio be ,ike this foostring1::foostring2:::::::fostring3 etc [06:46] maybe, but why? [06:47] you can set it for a single users as well, in that users profile [06:47] slackytude: the australian requestments for computer science at university consist of a band 5 in extention math, which is quite a high level of math. In your opionion do you honesty use a high level of math regulary with your course? [06:48] frullet, huh, what? band 5? [06:48] slackytude: a "band" is pretty much where you sit in a ranking for the australian HSC course, band 6 being the highest [06:49] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:49] frullet, well, I need it for some stuff, robotics for one. computer graphics is full of vectors. But no, I dont really need it. It depends a lot on what you do obviously [06:50] slackytude: fair enough, i have watched quite a few lectures and from what i can see, the need for that level of math is pointless [06:50] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [06:50] frullet, I was lucky that the bachlor degree rule chaged when I went to uni. we only do 3 math course, it used to be 5 [06:51] frullet, well, I will get a Bachlor of Science and it would be a discrease without math. But yeah, in reality you will hardly ever need it [06:51] unless, you go somewhere with a lot of numbers, obviously [06:52] slackytude: yeh, i was looking at the course layout and it involved quite a few math sections, so im considering doing a bridging course straight after the HSC for math [06:52] how many math stuff will you do? [06:52] slackytude: two secs mate [06:52] two secs? [06:53] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [06:53] y0 hitest [06:53] slackytude: just a second i should say [06:54] hi slackytude, how goes it? [06:54] that still doesnt translate to anything for me. how much for a second? [06:54] hitest, busy at university, all else fine. how about yourself? [06:54] slackytude: http://www.newcastle.edu.au/program/10177.html towards the bottom are the course requirements [06:55] slackytude: pretty good, ty:) My work week is winding down slowly. friday tomorrow. yipee:) [06:57] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:57] frullet, course layout is pretty much the same here. some different names, some stuff different. but not too different [06:58] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:58] hitest, lucky boy [06:58] ty:) [06:59] yo slackytude [06:59] slackytude: fair enough, at the moment i think it may be a good idea to start working with math in my free time, otherwise i may struggle with some of the core components of math within the course [06:59] frullet, for example, in year 3, which I am at now, we have computer graphics as core and data security as well, whereas compiler design and machine intelligence directed courses. its vice versa for you [07:00] y0 Camarade_Tux [07:00] discrete mathematics was weird [07:00] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [07:00] series ! \o/ [07:00] -_- [07:01] :D [07:01] sorry ;p [07:01] I guess I should do some work on our Network course [07:01] Distributed Systems I should say [07:02] slackytude: well, im going to have to work my ass off to actually make it into the course, the UAI needed to enter straight out of school is fairly high [07:03] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [07:03] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Client Quit [07:03] hmmm, pkgtools-13, what a surprise XP [07:08] frullet, eh, I went out of school, didnt get a decent job. I worked in a lot of shitty ones, garbageman for one. filled up perfume bottles as well. and I did freelancer pc repair/setup. went to community college and got my degree there, then went to uni :P [07:10] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [07:10] of course, I also worked during college and now at university [07:10] slackytude: woah [07:11] and studying cs is kinda easy if you know slackware and vim and did some programming [07:11] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [07:11] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-440ad30f0816c226) joined ##slackware. [07:12] well, i am in a shitty job right now [07:12] hopefully this recession would soon be over... and 'll be able to shift to a decent one [07:12] slackytude: ive watched numerous lectures and to be honest, its clear as a bell ( Because im fairly fluent with perl and C ) [07:13] its funny how people choose a different IDE for any language. first MSVC, then Eclipse, then Netbeans and whatnot and they always have to relearn it. I did most stuff in vim and got better with it [07:13] Action: lw0x15 got a letter from google adsense o.O [07:13] vaibhav, I woulndt bet on it, but one can hope [07:13] vaibhav, regarding the recession [07:13] frullet, aye [07:13] slackytude: i cant help it too but hope [07:13] frullet, math was the hardest for me, till now [07:14] slackytude: i actually dont do math at school which is a huge disadvantage, so i will have to pick up an outside course to fill in the gaps [07:14] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: SendQ exceeded [07:14] frullet, ouch [07:14] frullet, that could hurt. but it is certainly doable [07:15] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [07:15] slackytude: wasnt a wise deicion on my end [07:16] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Excess Flood [07:16] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [07:17] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Excess Flood [07:18] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [07:24] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [07:25] Axius (n=samyw@92.85.220.196) joined ##slackware. [07:26] frullet, could have been worse [07:28] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [07:30] v4nelle (n=van@adsl42-150.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:32] frullet, actually, basics of economics was the worst [07:33] slackytude: what does that involve? [07:33] frullet, lots and lots of crap and marketing stuff [07:33] slackytude: i find that interesting tbh [07:33] slackytude: im doing alot of that now indepth in my business studies course [07:33] how bussiness work, whats the diff between public companies, what sot of companies are there, when do you get profit, whats a cartel, monopoly, how are they defined [07:33] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:34] nobody have mouse problems with eduke32 ? [07:34] slackytude: piece of cake [07:34] Thom1, using the new xorg? [07:34] slackytude, no I'm on slack-12.2 [07:34] frullet, I hated it. spent a whole weekend on it, memorizing all of it. painfull. thank god I forgot everything [07:35] and I mean a whole weekend. friday morning, till sunday night [07:35] zoran119 (n=zoran@220.233.169.154) joined ##slackware. [07:35] got a B- I think [07:35] but it was crap [07:35] hey, i just set up a passwordless ssh... is it bad to have no paraphrase? [07:35] got certs? [07:36] Thom1, press ` [07:36] well, Esc and then ` [07:36] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]" [07:36] slackytude: did you do balance sheets? [07:36] frullet, yeah, but I didnt [07:36] slackytude: that shit makes you want to pull out your hair, remembering all the forumlas [07:36] frullet, I learnt just enough to pass. No clue how I got the B-. I was pretty sure failed [07:37] must have been an act of god [07:37] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [07:37] never visited the lecture either after first time [07:38] slackytude: tried my hands at economics as an elective course at uni, but got it changed after 2nd lecture [07:38] Camarade_Tux, nothing happened [07:38] had a feeling that it was going to be a nightmare... so dint want to take risk [07:38] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:38] vaibhav, I would never do it voluntary :P [07:38] vaibhav, heh [07:38] I dont know why its a core course anyway [07:38] slackytude: what field are you aiming to get into once your course is over? [07:39] frullet, by course, you mean the bachlor thing? [07:39] Any Chinese slackware users? [07:39] slackytude: yes [07:39] frullet, Ill do my master degree :P [07:39] slackytude: fair enough [07:39] i hate my desk at the office [07:39] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [07:40] its opposite to cafeteria, everybody comes in now and then and looks over what i am doing [07:40] vaibhav, heh [07:40] vaibhav, sucks [07:41] yep....just one more hour left for the day... hoping to get this time over quickly [07:41] hahaha : "Love ain't nothin' but sex misspelled." :) [07:41] vaibhav, I sit with the back to the door and you can see inside from the boss desk. so I have my boss looking over my shoulder all the time. there is some distance, tho. so it isnt all bad [07:41] not good for playing counter strike tho [07:42] frullet, actually, I was planing on going to australia for my master [07:42] counter strike aah, used to play it in uni [07:42] frullet, since my uni got a exchange programm with one australian uni [07:42] slackytude: do it at newcastle uni :) [07:42] should and would play it again in this weekend [07:42] frullet, dont think I can choose, as I said there is a partnership between them [07:42] slackytude: yeh, fair enough [07:42] vaibhav, no time [07:43] frullet, http://www.jcu.edu.au/ [07:43] pfff, forget counter strike, play duke nukem ! [07:44] frullet, http://www.fbi.h-da.de/studium/jim.html [07:44] slackytude: queensland heh [07:44] frullet, thats bad? [07:45] slackytude: apart from the heatwaves, your right on the goldcoast and near themeparks [07:46] frullet, that doesnt sound too bad [07:46] slackytude: invest in aircon ;) [07:47] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-59-101-177-55.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:50] zoran119 (n=zoran@220.233.169.154) left irc: "leaving" [07:55] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.91.93) joined ##slackware. [07:58] Wiren (n=a@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:02] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.86.245) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:03] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[08:28] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:29] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:29] guys this http://slackwiki.org/Minimal_System work with slack64? [08:29] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:30] grissiom (n=grissiom@219.239.227.225) joined ##slackware. [08:35] vaibhav (n=hehe@59.92.208.35) left irc: [08:35] well, I"m not going to say "yes, that will work," as I haven't tried. However, I will note that the trees for slackware + slackware64 are the same [08:36] so, if you tried it and it worked on slackware (32-bit), it should apply to 64-bit [08:37] Uh oh. [08:37] Xorg caught signal 1.1. [08:37] 11. [08:38] freebse (n=freebse@a89-182-216-37.net-htp.de) joined ##slackware. [08:39] Oh, it was EXA compositing. [08:39] KDE -still- hangs on load. [08:39] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.11.124) joined ##slackware. [08:42] are you on intel? [08:42] rosh_ (n=rosh@85.183.133.34) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:43] yeah, could be a buggy X driver [08:43] No. [08:43] And possibly. [08:43] If it is a buggy driver, then it's a regression. [08:43] oh; I was going to suggest UXA :> [08:43] Using openchrome on a KM400. [08:43] Possibly the lowest performance video chip ever made. [08:44] a... what? [08:44] KM400? Let's google it [08:44] Exactly. [08:44] lol [08:44] does it support composite? [08:44] It used to. [08:45] Apparently not anymore, at least not with EXA. [08:45] Reav_ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:45] ah, it's made by via. [08:45] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]" [08:45] Yeah, VIA acquired S3 I think, and that's what it is. [08:45] Action: thumbs recalls the cheap motherboards and chipsets [08:46] ccfreak2k: I can fedex you my virge, if you want. It should be an upgrade [08:46] Would be, but it's a laptop. [08:46] Would be kind of hard to fit a PCI card in it. [08:47] some of the bigger laptops can take one, actually [08:47] They can, but this isn't one of those. :) [08:47] ccfreak2k: so does xfce work fine on it? [08:48] Yep. [08:48] Xfce boots up right quick. [08:51] jota- (n=jota@190.6.6.247) joined ##slackware. [08:53] Reav_ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [08:53] freebse (n=freebse@a89-182-216-37.net-htp.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:55] Hmm. [08:55] Can I make find escape shell characters like space? [08:55] OldSlacker (n=OldSlack@173-24-168-161.client.mchsi.com) left irc: " HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference" [08:56] hmh [08:56] confrey (n=dario@94.163.174.24) joined ##slackware. [08:57] v4nelle, that minimal system article is pretty outdated. [08:57] v4nelle, i made my minimal system from slack 12.2 and it fits in 350 mb. but the package set will be different. [08:59] including the modules for the generic kernel, that are 60 megs. omitting that i would have fit into 290Mbytes. [09:03] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:03] maybe i should make a minimal system version two article..... if anybody finds a use for it i might. [09:04] ccfreak2k (i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:04] or just update that one :) [09:04] ccfreak2k (i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [09:06] There. [09:06] Finally got my Slacktop sorted out. [09:06] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.223.77.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:08] Except now I have to re-add and re-configure the synaptics module for Xorg. [09:08] are you on -current ? [09:09] Yeah [09:09] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:09] and, are you using hal for input ? [09:10] Whatever the default is. [09:10] I mean, are you using a xorg.conf ? [09:10] Yes. [09:10] Have to because I have to provide horizontal/vertical sync ranges. [09:11] do you have input stuff in your xorg.conf ? [09:11] Yeah. [09:12] ok, so that's NOT the default [09:13] xorgsetup picked "mouse" for the driver and "auto" for the protocol. [09:14] fuzzbawl (n=fuzzbawl@216.23.240.13) joined ##slackware. [09:14] Obviously the required change is changing the driver to "synaptics" and spending an hour tweaking the 50 or so options it has. [09:14] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:14] no [09:15] you need to a) remove all input related stuff in xorg.conf. Hal does this for you now. [09:15] you then need to b) comment out the psmouse line in /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse, and reload the module (rmmod psmouse; modprobe psmouse) [09:15] then c) you need to load X and have it JustWork [09:15] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bbc188ea2f012006) joined ##slackware. [09:15] (tm) [09:16] confrey (n=dario@94.163.174.24) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:16] Well, I DID try to load X without xorg.conf, and it Just Didn't. [09:16] heh [09:16] ok, sadly, you are very very very difficult to help, with zero error messages and 1 word responses. so, good luck [09:16] Nick change: init[1]|znc -> init[1] [09:16] thrice`, right. There ARE no error messages. [09:16] of course not [09:17] if you tried loading x.org without a xorg.conf, and something didn't work, I guarentee there were errors in your xorg log [09:17] There was: no available screen modes. [09:17] I fixed this by specifying custom horizontal/vertical sync ranges...which necessitates an xorg.conf. [09:18] notice I didn't say anything about that; I just said "remove all input related items" [09:18] input = mouse / keybaord sections [09:18] I'm aware of what you said. [09:18] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:18] You're getting flustered over the fact that I choose to load the synaptics driver explicitly. [09:19] I honestly couldn't care less what you do; I'm just saying that if you let xorg handle the input stuff through hal, you won't need to customize / update any of that stuff [09:19] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.66) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:20] If you didn't care less, why bother telling me what I "need" to do like you did earlier? [09:20] anyone knows if slackware's X startup sequence still uses those X{clients|session|resources|defaults} files or just plain xinitrc? [09:20] guys, stop [09:20] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:20] before you ban each other [09:20] Surely you mean "get banned". [09:20] I'll fiddle with xorg.conf more later. [09:20] slava_dp: those files are created; the .xinitrc just tells xorg which window manager to load [09:22] ccfreak2k: I wasn't trying to argue, just possibly suggest a quicker means to getting synaptics to work [09:23] which, it should on its own if you load psmouse the correct way (which, in my opinion, is NOT done properly in -current) [09:23] Ah yes, I think I do have to dick around with module loading/blacklisting too. [09:24] thrice`, you surely know why it is done that way with psmouse. [09:24] i know why it USED to be done that way (for a few old KVM switches or so?) [09:25] yep [09:25] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) joined ##slackware. [09:26] well it's not a problem to comment that out if you need plain module loading (i do) [09:26] slava_dp: but, loading it like that on -current breaks alot of people's inputs (like synaptics users). keeping it to make it work on a few old switches, while break on almost all newer stuff, seems wrong to me :> [09:27] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bbc188ea2f012006) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [09:27] you have a point. let those poor kvm users set up their module, right? :-) no kidding, i'd be glad if that option got removed, too. [09:28] `dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:29] grissiom (n=grissiom@219.239.227.225) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:32] thrice`, if I omit the input sections, where would I change the driver options? [09:32] slava_dp: well, at least commented out and a note in CHANGES_AND_HINTS :) better to work for 95% of people, than break it for 95% people so 5% can have their switches working ;) [09:32] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:32] ccfreak2k: well, depends; do you mean for synaptics? [09:32] Yeah. [09:32] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:33] Like Option "ScrollWidth" 512 or something. [09:33] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2a5f29814e36512e) joined ##slackware. [09:33] through a hal fdi file: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics has a good example, if the defaults don't work for you [09:33] They don't. [09:33] The acceleration is too fast for me. [09:33] does scrolling work ? [09:33] Well, with hal being deprecated in favor of libudev.. I ain't learnin' fdi files :P [09:34] Dominian: that's probably a year+ out :) [09:34] so!? [09:34] :D [09:34] thrice`, it does with synaptics (but not with anything else, of course). [09:35] I don't know how the libudev thing will work; I think it's a great improvement, though. depending on hal is kinda silly (though, it does work) [09:36] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:36] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2a5f29814e36512e) left irc: Client Quit [09:36] Axius (n=samyw@92.85.220.196) left irc: "Leaving" [09:36] Action: slava_dp googles libudev [09:36] thrice`: it didn't work for me! :D [09:36] which is why I finally told hal to take a hike [09:36] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e49f9c490c242c43) joined ##slackware. [09:36] Now don't get me wrong.. I like the hotplugging [09:37] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:37] Just not how hal handles it [09:37] thrice`: when I was testing arch linux... hotplugging worked flawlessly.. [09:37] slava_dp, make it make it :) [09:38] i talk abou the minimal system tut.... [09:38] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [09:38] v4nelle, eh, lol, i will :-) [09:39] slack64 has the same files? [09:39] v4nelle: slackare64 is the same as slackware.. just 64bit [09:39] yep, same set of packages [09:39] same look and feel [09:39] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.66) joined ##slackware. [09:40] Action: slava_dp is loving this wallpaper: http://slackwaregallery.org/displayimage.php?pos=-419 [09:40] Slackware has a "feel"? [09:40] And a look? [09:41] the blood splash is like from postal2 :-) [09:41] ccfreak2k, it has a feel. [09:41] Also, the "penguin" present during boot using the framebuffer looks like Beastie painted black and with a beak mask. [09:41] for a look cat /etc/slackware-version, that's how it looks [09:42] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:42] that's tuz, the devil |m| [09:42] slava_dp, nice :D [09:43] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.11.124) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:44] it's like a total contrary to the spirit that "windows 7" (sorry) brings. Slackware 13! lol [09:50] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.66) left irc: "Leaving" [09:50] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-440ad30f0816c226) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:50] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.162.3) joined ##slackware. [09:51] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-1e6b55ccf30c809e) joined ##slackware. [09:53] Reav_ (n=Reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: Success [09:56] I enabled the compositor in Xfce 4...and it's not as slow as I thought it would be. [10:03] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.66) joined ##slackware. [10:05] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.23.118) joined ##slackware. [10:05] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [10:05] Well, xorg claims to have loaded the Synaptics driver, and it spews some info in the log. [10:07] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:07] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [10:08] hiya guys,... is there a way to check in a network.. what pc is sending emails all the time? [10:08] like checking the smtp ? [10:08] any wireshark,iftop,...etc ..anything will do [10:08] Wireshark. [10:09] ccfreak2k: with smtp filter? [10:09] So long as you funnel all of the packets through the sniffing machine. [10:09] ccfreak2k: kind of difficult that... [10:09] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:09] i have to check what machine in the whole network is sending emails [10:10] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:10] Alternatively, have your firewall log and drop outbound connections. [10:10] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) joined ##slackware. [10:10] On SMTP. [10:11] ccfreak2k: no can do [10:11] smtp is being used for some crapy system these guys setup before me..noone can explain it... [10:11] cannot block smtp [10:11] just need to log it...check who is sending [10:11] Well then just log it then [10:12] Nick change: Nosuchnik_aw -> NoSuchNik [10:12] ccfreak2k: any info on how ? [10:12] firewall on the router? [10:12] Yeah. [10:12] iptables supports it, for example. [10:12] pf might too. [10:13] ccfreak2k: one example? [10:13] iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -j LOG --log-level debug [10:13] Just like DROP, except you use LOG instead. [10:15] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:15] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:16] ccfreak2k: i see.. but i cannot put iptables on this router.. [10:16] :( [10:16] damn [10:16] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.91.93) left irc: "Leaving" [10:17] If you have a fancy switch in your network, you might be able to configure it to send all packets to a specific port (in addition to their destination port). [10:17] That should make it easier to sniff for packets. [10:18] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.26.54) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:18] slakuser (n=slakuser@87.13.165.143) joined ##slackware. [10:18] ciao [10:18] a tutti [10:18] come posso auto loggarmi in root [10:18] mode [10:19] senza inserire una password di root [10:19] tutti-frutti [10:19] spero sia possibile [10:19] se si come ? [10:19] we don't understand you [10:19] hot to autologin in root [10:19] mode [10:19] ? [10:19] how [10:20] ccfreak2k: ill try... damns.. too much work..ceeya [10:20] ccfreak2k: thanks bro [10:20] slakuser: uhm, what? [10:20] hiya BP{k} , [10:20] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [10:20] slakuser, why do you want to do that? [10:21] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [10:21] DeeeeP (n=ngomes@bl8-108-248.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:21] DeeeeP (n=ngomes@85.241.110.189) joined ##slackware. [10:22] how to autologin in root without entering password [10:22] without obvious gdm etc ... [10:22] mshade (n=mshade@ip68-100-212-163.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:22] slakuser: you mean on system start? [10:23] yes in system start [10:23] slakuser, spawn a bash shell from /etc/inittab [10:24] just out of sheer, utter morbid curiosity .. *why* [10:24] Hey check this out http://tech-wonders.blogspot.com/2009/04/dont-extract-this-42-kb-zipped-file.html quite interesting [10:25] Surely a bz2 version would compress better. [10:25] that enter as parameters? [10:25] ccfreak2k: yea , it is written by a windows user it seems :) [10:25] That prank is fairly old, though. I remember it back in 2003. [10:25] ccfreak2k: is that prank ? [10:25] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:26] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [10:26] I don't think so [10:26] Well, it is if you give it to an unsuspecting user. [10:26] Beyond that, it doesn't have much utility, and is only slightly interesting. [10:26] parameters that I put in / etc / inittab [10:26] "News flash: compression algorithm compresses a string of zeroes well!" [10:27] hmmm.. [10:27] slakuser: why the heck do use slackware, if you want to autologin as root? [10:28] you can spawn a bash shell by giving it to lilo on boot [10:28] slackytude, correct. init=/bin/sh [10:29] but you will not get all the services :) [10:30] version of slakware and 12.2 me l 'autologin in root to avian' s fluxbox and its programs with root access [10:30] so I can use to complete automation [10:30] did you know that if you start bash as sh it only uses a subset of it's features? whereas if you launch it as bash, it utilizes it's full capabilities. [10:30] yeah [10:30] i learned that on #bash some time ago [10:31] why xfce4 is in only one big package ? [10:31] Thom1, cause it's convenient to package it that way :-) [10:31] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:32] slava_dp, ok :( [10:32] Thom1: vanilla xfce usually come's it several packs [10:32] Thom1, you can install it and rm what you don't want if you are so space-constrained. [10:32] s/it/in/ [10:33] so I can't install only thunar, or I need to make my own slackbuild [10:33] yes, but they all update at the same time anyway [10:33] slakuser, better create another user and set init to su - newuser -c /bin/bash. [10:33] tomq (n=tomek@aje63.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:34] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.105.244) joined ##slackware. [10:34] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.93.197) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:34] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [10:35] it possibile autologin in root without entering password? I enter in inittab? I must have access to the command hdparm-i / dev/hda1 and the command lshw with full privileges [10:36] without creating a user and possible? [10:36] nullify_ (i=n@68-114-223-90.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:36] slakuser: "you're doing it wrong" [10:37] I know for the safety and wrong but for me and personal use! [10:37] Action: slava_dp thinks there is no lshw in slackware.... [10:38] :) [10:38] slakuser, just make your root password blank. and login with "root [enter]" [10:39] if what is needed is access to some commands without logging in as root or entering any passwords, how about making them suid-root and logging in as some ordinary user? [10:39] do not hit enter and possible? [10:40] tomq (n=tomek@aje63.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+ssfe" [10:40] shw can add to the already slakware and running [10:41] AFAIK the only SANE way to automatically log in is through xdm, gdm or kdm. [10:41] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e49f9c490c242c43) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [10:41] slava_dp=lshw can add to the already slakware and running [10:41] for a very weird definition of sane.... [10:41] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4ac8e6fa707afa91) joined ##slackware. [10:42] Action: slava_dp knows and has lshw installed from a slackbuild. [10:42] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4ac8e6fa707afa91) left irc: Client Quit [10:42] do not hit enter and possible? [10:42] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-040d867a53c7eaa7) joined ##slackware. [10:43] do not hit enter and possible? autologin [10:43] BP{k}, automatic login is useful in some situations (think: set top box). [10:43] slakuser, just add /bin/bash to rc.local. should work. it's your system. [10:43] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-040d867a53c7eaa7) left irc: Client Quit [10:44] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a3ad528c9cb036df) joined ##slackware. [10:44] ccfreak2k: allright, I am willing to concede that point, set top boxes / multimedia centers might be the exception to the rule. [10:44] Action: ccfreak2k twirls his gun and sticks it in his holster. [10:49] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC019D1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:49] hrm.. changelog for slackware64-current shows both x86_64 and i686 kernels [10:49] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [10:49] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [10:51] in possibile autologin in inittab agetty or other ? without entering password and keyboard enter [10:51] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [10:52] slakuser (n=slakuser@87.13.165.143) left irc: "Sto andando via" [10:52] nullify (i=n@68-114-223-90.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:53] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:54] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [10:54] ok... so i did slackpkg upgrade pidgin and now i cant open pidgin.. [10:55] pidgin: error while loading shared libraries: libgstreamer-0.10.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [10:55] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-1e6b55ccf30c809e) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:55] slakuser (n=slakuser@87.13.165.143) joined ##slackware. [10:55] hello [10:56] slakuser: man agetty [10:56] you may get a hack around it [10:57] can anyone help? :( i thought i wouldnt encounter problems with slackpkg [10:57] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-3d6ebe689acb90a6) joined ##slackware. [10:57] root autologin in inittab agetty with or without use of the password and then enter [10:58] slakmagik: read it there seem a alternative way to call another program instead of login [10:59] from man:Optionally invokes a non-standard login program instead of [10:59] /bin/login. [11:01] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.24.93) joined ##slackware. [11:01] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:01] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:02] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.134.61) joined ##slackware. [11:04] Action: High_Priest bye all [11:05] High_Priest (n=Mean@nat/ibm/x-cec0cb60043222e6) left irc: "Leaving" [11:06] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-59-101-177-55.mel.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:07] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:07] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:07] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.23.118) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:14] missyjane, you probably need to update/install the package with libgstreamer. [11:15] >:( i hate that [11:15] In this case, it would be gstreamer-0.10.23-i486-1.txz. [11:15] agentc0re|work: ping [11:15] Well, one of the hazards of -current is that packages get added. [11:16] blah [11:16] They get removed, too. [11:16] agentc0re|work: Join me in #slackbuilds, please [11:16] ill do it one at a time then [11:16] mary jane [11:16] missyjane, slackpkg install-new and slackpkg clean-system can assist you. [11:16] yes? [11:16] DMRadford (n=dmradfor@office.balancestudios.com) joined ##slackware. [11:16] D: no too risky [11:16] gustaf_ (n=gustaf@cm-84.215.92.40.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [11:16] clean-system removes 3rd party stuff [11:16] i have tons of it [11:17] quick Q: does slackware use pulse audio? [11:17] A: no [11:17] slackware doesn't ship with gnome [11:17] Thank jeebus [11:17] k, thanks [11:17] hi all I am using slackware 12.0 plus postgres 8.3 ; now I want to write the graphical front end for my application ... how do i do that ? I mean which language for sure won't cause problems ... since with java i screwed like a few hours without any results [11:17] DMRadford (n=dmradfor@office.balancestudios.com) left ##slackware. [11:17] straterra: I'd prefer it to KDE, if given the choice :> [11:17] kde4** [11:17] I like KDE4 [11:18] I like Vista better though :P [11:18] paul424, the circumstances seem...irrelevant. [11:18] :/ [11:19] missyjane, no. It -selects- them for removal. [11:19] paul424: There's no guarantee that something "won't cause problems" [11:19] You can still browse the list and choose what to remove and what to keep. [11:19] You might also be able to "blacklist" those packages so they don't show up. [11:19] thrice`: fyi.. DMRadford went into a bunch of distro channels asking that exact question [11:19] Dominian: yeah sure ... thought that someone have experiance ./ [11:19] oooh [11:20] yeah too much to blacklist [11:20] hm [11:20] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:20] paul424: Well, your question is vague. [11:20] paul424: No one has any clue what your end goal is [11:20] Or the target application. [11:20] OR the requirements. [11:20] nor the target audience [11:20] paul424: If I could answer questions based on the broad concept of what you just stated... I'd be rich. [11:21] Dominian, heh, you can. [11:21] Be a consultant. :) [11:21] going to try upgrade-all [11:21] I can make "assumptions" [11:21] missyjane, that just updates existing packages. [11:21] It won't add new ones or remove obsoleted packages. [11:21] holy goodness, thats a lot of upgrade [11:22] i dare not touch the kernel [11:22] Also remember that, by default, it will want to install all of the kernel packages when you only need one. [11:22] Dominian: i don';t know what we don;t know about each other: i mean the greatest problem is to get the working driver for my database in some env .... 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[11:23] tripwire [11:23] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.66) left irc: "Leaving" [11:23] heh [11:23] mozilla-firefox-3.0.5-i686-1.tgz: Not found [11:23] hm [11:24] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [11:24] I wonder if md5sum /* would work... [11:24] mib_8x8up3, maybe: find / -exec md5sum {} >> /whatever/md5list ; [11:24] probably have to do a find / -type file or something [11:24] going to update xchat brb [11:24] it won't md5sum directories [11:24] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [11:24] ccfreak2k: i need to exclude proc, sys and dev [11:25] zak__ (n=zak@41.230.49.28) joined ##slackware. [11:25] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:25] What you're doing sounds...patently insane, though. [11:25] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [11:25] ok done [11:25] Planning to rsync a whole filesystem or something? [11:25] zak__ (n=zak@41.230.49.28) left ##slackware ("ZZZZzzzzZZZ"). [11:26] mib_8x8up3 (i=d47b5bde@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8d1bc4558e7a4b59) left irc: Client Quit [11:27] ok so what can i do about the firefox one? [11:28] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: "fui rangar" [11:29] well: find / -type f -exec md5sum {} \; > md5sum.txt will work for him. [11:29] missyjane, see if you have it installed? [11:29] Dominian, it will...except it'll only have one md5sum in it. [11:29] Wait, maybe not. [11:29] i use firefox, of course its installed [11:29] missyjane, that version? [11:30] Newer? Older? [11:30] older [11:30] ccfreak2k: no. that would work. but xargs would be more efficient. [11:30] SpacePlod, I mis-read the file redirection as being inside -exec.. [11:31] ah [11:31] ccfreak2k: no.. it would recurse properly [11:31] lady in reeeeed [11:31] ccfreak2k: I tested it :P [11:31] slackpkg never touches anything inside /home right? [11:31] is daaancing ... with ..meeee [11:31] missyjane: right [11:31] phew!!! [11:31] missyjane, slackpkg doesn't touch anything [11:31] . [11:31] installpkg and friends, on the other hand... [11:32] lol [11:33] slackpkg upgrade kde-i18n [11:33] hm [11:33] i should exit kde after installing these internationals [11:36] thank god i have like 500gb of space [11:36] lol [11:36] pattwo (n=sysadmin@d206-75-63-100.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [11:37] maybe not but.. meh [11:37] missyjane, I usually telinit 3 before upgrading. [11:37] telinit? [11:37] Arauto (n=leandro@201.17.182.36) joined ##slackware. [11:39] it seems to delete from /var/cache/package after installing [11:39] You can turn that off if you want, check the man page [11:40] no no thats fine [11:40] i might not even upgrade to slackware 31 when it comes out [11:40] err.. 13 [11:41] ya i cant run two instance of slackpkg [11:42] apt doesn't let you do that either [11:42] *sigh* [11:42] lol :x.... [11:42] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:42] >.>... [11:42] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:42] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "I believe in christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything [11:42] was just trying new things out you know... [11:45] brb new kde stuff [11:45] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [11:46] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [11:47] i wonder if its worth upgrading compiz... [11:47] tanks all [11:48] missyjane: are you actually asking questions, or do you just enjoy talking in general? [11:48] heh [11:48] im saying things so that if i do something wrong ppl go "no dont do that" [11:48] but i also enjoy talking but im really asking questions in form of statements [11:48] if it aint broke don't fix it [11:49] if it needs upgrading, upgrade it if you see fit. [11:49] crashx1 (n=relaxed@h19.200.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [11:49] hm how does one know if it needs upgrading? [11:50] Nick change: init[1] -> init[1]|znc [11:51] check the ChangeLog [11:51] in general that is a good practice [11:51] and patches/ [11:51] i assume you are running 12.2? [11:52] missyjane: you could also subscribe to the slackware-security list [11:52] them make sure you upgrade everything in patches/ [11:52] then* [11:52] There's also a RSS feed for updates. [11:53] adding that to notes then [11:53] ok [11:54] nullify (i=n@68-114-223-90.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:54] i think they made the pidgin bird more stupid looking lol... [11:55] bash script questions: anyone know of a nice way to trim the end of a string, with the amounts of chars to trim specified in a variable.. [11:55] i didn't think that was possible, missyjane [11:56] grekkos, the pidgin birds eyes are even more wide open [11:56] and it has an even bigger smile [11:56] so now it just looks like a creepy clown? [11:56] hehe, sort of [11:56] its so cute... [11:57] the one on the website [11:58] ? [11:59] nullify_ (i=n@68-114-223-90.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:59] nope the one on my kde panel [11:59] ok iwont bother yo uguys anymore, thanks for the slackpkg help [12:00] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [12:01] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:09] crashx1 (n=relaxed@h19.200.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Connection timed out [12:10] who even uses yahoo [12:10] l2xmpp [12:10] <|Slacker|> ME [12:10] <|Slacker|> sorry for the caps [12:11] oh i appologise [12:11] <|Slacker|> it's not connecting via pidgin here too [12:11] i seem to have offended the two yahoo users [12:11] crashx- (n=relaxed@h198.203.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [12:11] <|Slacker|> lol [12:11] is that like icq :-) [12:11] AIM is more like ICQ [12:12] just like how bofh sometimes offends the two os/2 users [12:12] I use jabber for everything [12:12] Dominian: <3 jabber [12:12] well, a lot of my friends use yahoo, so... ;-; [12:12] i have finished my exams [12:12] spook: agreed. Yet most of the people I know insist on using AIM. :/ [12:12] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a3ad528c9cb036df) left ##slackware. [12:13] You do realize that jabber offers transports.. some servers do anyway [12:13] jabber is too new, still waiting to see if it catches on [12:13] within 30 minutes of finishing my last exam i had consumed a jug of beer [12:13] Meaning you can use yahoo/msn/aim/icq through jabber [12:13] I've been using AIM in bitlbee [12:13] <|Slacker|> msn is the most used one here in brazil [12:13] Dominian: i have some jabber server running on a machine i have, connects to google without any setup [12:13] spook: well google *is* jabber [12:13] jabber is cool [12:13] they use jabber [12:13] Dominian: wait, that isnt what you're talking about [12:13] ? [12:13] spook: no [12:13] but yeah, it just hasn't caught on yet [12:14] transports through jabber to other chat protocols like msn, aim, etc [12:14] oh. [12:14] thats cool. [12:14] I used to run a jabber server with all of that [12:14] until it went haywire hehe [12:14] anything with msn in the name makes me breaks me into a rash [12:14] haldir: It's Windows (R) Live (R) now. :P [12:15] ewww [12:16] Nick change: stew -> HolieThePuppet [12:18] abhoriel (i=cremoris@free.dancing.bot.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [12:18] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:18] abhoriel kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: I hate badly written bots [12:18] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.129) joined ##slackware. [12:19] hahah [12:19] He was here yesterday, too. :P [12:19] what is it a spambot [12:20] a bot that comes in and spams crap no one cares about [12:21] What type of bot is slackboy, anyway? [12:21] supybot iirc [12:21] !version [12:21] a good one [12:21] bah [12:21] @version [12:21] lol [12:21] slackboy: version [12:21] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:21] Action: Dominian slaps slackboy [12:21] Either he's broke or just ignoring us [12:22] i'll sacrifice myself for the greater good [12:22] Nick change: spook -> spook_away [12:22] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:22] spook_away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [12:22] Greetings everybody. :) [12:22] spook (n=spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [12:22] haha [12:22] :) [12:22] that worked. :P [12:22] I'd say he ain't broke [12:22] yup. [12:22] LOL [12:22] I'm pretty sure slackboy is a SupyBot [12:22] Ok. I was just wondering where the flood module came from... [12:23] its part of supybot [12:23] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:23] Action: Dominian has a supybot.. I never load it up though [12:23] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Client Quit [12:24] Dominian: I have one too (sitting in #wicd), but I couldn't find it when I was digging through the docs [12:24] you run wicd? [12:24] er.. +# [12:24] Yeah. [12:24] The bot is centurion [12:24] cool [12:24] NaCl: You one of the wicd devs? [12:25] Yeah. I wrote the console client in 1.6 [12:25] nice [12:25] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.95.98) joined ##slackware. [12:25] Now I know who to yell at :D [12:25] fail ^^ [12:25] I actually moved away from slackare on my laptop ... mainly because of all th en etworks I have to go through.. [12:26] NaCl: In fact I think one of the patches was something I suggested for the wpa_supplicant template.. but I don't remember.. been a while. lol [12:26] feinom_ (n=feinom@svale.hia.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:26] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:26] feinoM (n=feinom@svale.hia.no) joined ##slackware. [12:26] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) joined ##slackware. [12:27] From what I could tell, the templates in wicd can be used for pretty much everything that wpa_supplicant can do, at least as of 1.6 [12:27] I also know that the templates are dying in the next major release. :) [12:27] Nick change: HolieThePuppet -> stew [12:28] lol why are you killing the template thingy? [12:28] Because they are inflexible. [12:30] so you're going to replace it with something else? [12:30] NaCl: I think It was for wpa2 template [12:30] hiptobecubic (n=john@ip70-185-109-252.ga.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:32] Necos: we're going to be doing that like networkmanager, just by checking whether the user is attempting to connect to a WEP, WPA, or WPA Enterprise network [12:32] i see [12:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/wicd/+bug/321559 [12:33] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [12:33] ccfreak2k: what are you trying to do? [12:33] i have slack64 on this laptop now. the only way i could get it to connect was to manually enter the SSID in my inet.conf [12:33] haldir: Did you try wicd? [12:33] http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/get-the-facts/browser-comparison.aspx <-- LOL [12:33] Dominian, compress /dev/zero into a bz2 to see what happens. [12:34] uhhh [12:34] Dominian, no [12:34] Technically I wouldn't need the tar I guess. [12:34] ragsagar_ (n=ragsagar@117.204.97.40) joined ##slackware. [12:34] ccfreak2k: right, but that would go on forever wouldn't it? lol [12:34] Yeah it would. [12:34] I would probably run it for a few hours. [12:34] hopefully you got lots of drive space [12:34] Dominian, a string of zeros would compress well. :) [12:34] true [12:34] jumperboy (n=jorey@gl206.websiteproject.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] oh yeah you said /dev/zero [12:35] dunno what I was thinking [12:35] Oh wait, I don't need a pipe. [12:35] Hermann (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:35] I can just add /dev/zero. [12:35] gar0t0, hehehe [12:35] :D [12:36] dom [12:36] haldir: If you want to try wicd, packages for the newest vesion are here: http://www.slackware.com/~rworkman/wicd/ [12:36] it does work quite well [12:37] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [12:37] i will try, of course it wouldnt help getting on line first time if not in slack distro [12:37] 1.5.9 is in extra/, but 1.6 hasn't been added yet. [12:38] Probably waiting for 1.6.1 [12:38] aye [12:38] hopefully it'll make it for slackware 13 [12:39] We should have it in a week or so. There are some patches that need to be looked at, and some more to add [12:39] do i need the other file, urwid [12:39] If you want to use the console interface, you will need urwid [12:40] Else, you can ignore it. [12:40] i'm helping to translate wicd-curses! yay [12:40] ragsagar_ (n=ragsagar@117.204.97.40) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:40] spook, to what? [12:40] japanese [12:41] spook: you reminded me that i need to update something in there... [12:42] Action: Necos prods spook [12:43] tar -cjvf zero.tar.bz2 /dev/zero [12:43] Necos: what you prodding at fool? [12:43] This is correct, right? [12:44] ccfreak2k: yes [12:44] I guess I need to get output from /dev/zero in a different fashion then. [12:44] Maybe a FIFO pipe... [12:45] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [12:45] crashx1 (n=relaxed@h16.183.29.71.static.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Operation timed out [12:46] 1.6.0 changelog has some delicious looking things in it [12:47] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:47] spook: best chill out suckafish ^_~ [12:47] like putting scanning in its own thread [12:47] crashx- (n=relaxed@h68.135.89.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [12:47] Apparently Xfce intercepts ctrl+F4 even though I only have one workspace. [12:47] Necos: no rly what [12:47] nothin... just felt like prodding people at random [12:48] hiptobecubic: yeah, that was particularly awesome [12:48] Action: Necos prods hiptobecubic randomly [12:48] Action: NaCl confiscates Necos's prodding stick [12:50] quit your jibba jabba fool [12:50] errr what happens if i use the slackbuild scripts with some other version of package ? [12:50] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:50] paul424: what [12:50] I mean the version slackbuilds propopse is not avalaibble [12:50] paul424: you will need to edit the slackbuild script to handle the different version [12:50] paul424: wont work unless you change the script [12:51] NaCl, i'm curious if it's going to fix this issue i'm having now. The house i'm at has winxp serving as the router using ICS (i know i know. look. i didn't do it) anyway it's technically ad-hoc but winxp will serve dhcp. Rather than get an address from the winserver, wicd just fails and give itself 169.x.x.x address [12:51] u2pian (n=guest@120.28.194.38) joined ##slackware. [12:51] which is better, beagleboard TI ARM OMAP, or friendlyARM mini2440 board?? and why.... [12:51] Action: Necos prods NaCl with his foot [12:51] spook: ok where could I look for the archive version of program sources ? [12:51] paul424: what [12:51] paul424, the version information is near the top. change the number to the appropriate one [12:51] paul424: do what twolf said [12:52] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-154.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:52] spook: and that all [12:52] Action: dtanner looks around for hardware consultants to answer paul424's question. [12:52] ? [12:52] paul424, slackbuilds have no control over the software that is available and no keeps archives of it. If you can't download it you can't download it. Use the version that's available and adjust the build, not the other way around. [12:52] shouldn't bash be able to ./slackbuild VERSION=blah? [12:52] ..... "and no keeps archives of it" [12:52] should [12:52] but that kind of defeats the purpose of versioning the build script :P [12:52] hiptobecubic: and manually connecting works? [12:53] correction, er to answer u2pian's question [12:53] NaCl, if i manually set the card to adhoc mode, connect and then manually call dhcpcd, it works fine yes. [12:53] i mean, in the event that you want to use an old slackbuild with a newer tarball [12:53] after killing wicd [12:53] hiptobecubic: that "setting the card to adhoc" mode wicd may not do, I don't know for sure [12:53] Necos: yeah maybe [12:54] Necos, i would suggest that that's not a great idea because it only works for the most general of slackbuilds. it's usually worth it to untar the ball and check the config options at least [12:54] hiptobecubic: if it doesn't work in 1.6, file a big report in https://bugs.launchpad.net/wicd [12:54] mokujin (n=mokujin@190.26.25.180) joined ##slackware. [12:54] NaCl, i haven't tried connect to adhoc before so i'm not sure if this adhoc+dhcp is a special case or not [12:55] Well, at least you didn't set up this thing :) [12:55] hungry [12:56] any women about? [12:56] hiptobecubic: obviously... [12:56] but i'm just referring to general laziness [12:56] Hmm. [12:56] Apparently tar is just reading the pipe itself. [12:57] It's not waiting for data to go through. [12:57] u2pian (n=guest@120.28.194.38) left ##slackware. [12:58] hello [12:58] xfce4 in spanish??? [12:58] ragsagar_ (n=ragsagar@117.204.96.215) joined ##slackware. [12:59] o__O [12:59] hiptobecubic: And I don't know whether it is a special case or not, but getting it to work should be simple enough... I think... [12:59] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-017-154.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:59] I'm pretty sure you say XFCE the same in Spanish as you do in English [12:59] lol [13:00] you need to emphasize the C or something [13:00] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.34.90) joined ##slackware. [13:00] What's the point of using xz instead of just lzma? [13:01] Because xz is an implementation of LZMA? [13:01] xz is lzma [13:01] >.> [13:01] Also, I found a typo in the tar manpage. [13:01] Apparently it was last updated in 1993. [13:01] yes [13:01] It's probably been there for quite a while... :P [13:02] one of oldest man page [13:02] I was in preschool in 1993. :| [13:02] lol [13:02] ccfreak2k: sounds about right for me too [13:02] i was in the 8th grade =p [13:02] my kids were out of preschool before then [13:04] wow >.> [13:04] you old farts [13:04] my farts are pretty new man, i don't know what you're talkin about [13:05] jumperboy (n=jorey@gl206.websiteproject.net) left irc: "leaving" [13:06] blaahh that;s annying that to run some x program with root extenstions I must log as normal user than type kdesu -c myprogram [13:06] heh, i probably have some hardware in the basement older than some of you [13:06] especially that I cannot do that as su [13:06] grr [13:06] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [13:07] paul424: su - then set the xdisplay thingy [13:07] what to set ? xdisplay thingy what do yu7ou mean ? [13:09] mokujin (n=mokujin@190.26.25.180) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:10] DISPLAY=:0.0? [13:11] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@168-215-208-8.static.twtelecom.net) joined ##slackware. [13:11] or try xhsoot + [13:11] err [13:12] xhost + [13:12] gartt_ (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:12] root@oberon:/tmp# echo $DISPLAY [13:12] :0.0 [13:12] xhost +root [13:13] root@oberon:/tmp# xhost +root [13:13] No protocol specified [13:13] xhost: unable to open display ":0.0" [13:14] Nick change: NoSuchNik -> Nosuchnik_aw [13:14] as root -> xauth merge /home/user_running_X/.Xauthority && export DISPLAY=:0.0 [13:19] dtanner: ok but how aobuot root ? [13:19] that is what i just told you [13:20] paul424: he said "as root" :P [13:20] y0 dtanner [13:21] hello firebird619 [13:21] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:22] hkm and now it will work for all the users ? [13:22] Jean (n=jean@jean.xen.prgmr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:23] oops the xhost command is normally ran as the user running X [13:23] that will let root run aps in your normal users X paul424 [13:24] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "goodbye" [13:24] bijit (i=1000@190.241.15.48) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:24] bijit (i=1000@190.241.15.48) joined ##slackware. [13:25] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [13:25] Greetings [13:25] salutations [13:25] firebird619: hows it going? how are you today? [13:25] Parabens [13:25] :D [13:26] Saudações* [13:26] The-Croupier: doing great, thanks. yourself? [13:26] y0 gar0t0, how goes it? [13:26] firebird619: same here... lots of work to do today ;) [13:26] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [13:26] loving it ;) [13:26] Jean (n=jean@jean.xen.prgmr.com) left ##slackware. [13:27] guys, does anyone know any sites to watch movies? [13:27] hulu? [13:27] just something to play on the background [13:27] joost [13:27] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Connection timed out [13:27] xtube? [13:27] nixpac3 (n=tiddiete@71.16.214.27) joined ##slackware. [13:28] or even many of the tv channels websites [13:28] juice .. hulu is only for US im in greece [13:28] :( damn :( [13:28] really [13:28] didn't know that [13:28] ?? if i have a P3, 256RAM, 40GBHDD, is slack a good choice for me? [13:28] trying the others [13:29] The-Croupier: xtube was a joke, it's nsfw [13:29] juice: me neither ;) [13:29] well...;) [13:29] ragsagar_ (n=ragsagar@117.204.96.215) left irc: "Leaving" [13:29] firebird619: :) [13:30] dimmerbold: nsfw?! [13:30] haha [13:30] not safe for work [13:30] Hey Dominian [13:30] sup [13:30] hiya Dominian ;) [13:30] sup [13:30] trying to figure imapd out. [13:30] sup sup [13:30] is there a google chrome for linux? [13:30] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-76-57.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [13:30] firebird619: if you mean the built-in one tha tcomes with slackware? Don't bother. [13:30] dtanner: no [13:31] dtanner: people use that crap? [13:31] traitors [13:31] Dominian: what should I use then? there's another one? [13:31] dtanner: lol [13:31] firebird619: I removepkg that POS every install. [13:31] dtanner: actually there is [13:31] firebird619: dovecot and you can find it on slackbuilds.org [13:31] however heavily beta [13:31] Hmm. [13:31] dovecot is powerful yet light.. easy to configure [13:31] I can't get tar or bzip2 to take in data from /dev/zero. [13:32] http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-linux/18716/chrome-linux.zip [13:32] Action: The-Croupier trying to figure out e233:cannot open display error :( [13:32] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [13:33] Dominian: dovecot acts as an imap server? Mainly what I want now, I got this tool from SBo called mpop which downloads my mail to ~/Maildir, I would still like to use opera, so I was hoping I could find something that would serve that mail up so I could access it from opera via imap because opera doesn't support maildir. [13:33] if i have commands on a script i get that error, if i type them by hand they work fine [13:33] also the firefox option to choose the directory i want download to is also screwed because it doesn't allow on confirming in it's box [13:33] what is different from the script? [13:33] dtanner, that is chrome for linux "chromium" [13:33] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.88.108) joined ##slackware. [13:33] juice: ok thanks [13:34] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72CC1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:34] also it is zipped [13:34] there are several builds on the site [13:34] ewwwwwww [13:34] I just posted the latest [13:34] Dominian: I do have dovecot installed already, so if that will serve my mail up as imap, that'd be great and I'll look more into that. [13:34] y0 [13:34] y0 slackytude [13:34] How's it going? [13:34] there is no way in hell I pass all my exams [13:34] only have the box : open with -> choose and save to disk ... but it is comp[letly random where it will wriet ... sometimes it;s tmp sometimes desktop [13:34] paul424: if you choose the folder and you press open on ff ..it will be fine [13:34] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Connection timed out [13:35] well, there might be with the help of satan but Im out of goats [13:35] does anyone knows how do I customize it ... no . i have only the option save to disk [13:35] paul424: specify in the prefs which directory you want for default download [13:35] paul424: goto edit/preferences/browse choose [13:35] slackytude: lol, didn't do so well with your exams? [13:35] firebird619: Yeah.. dovecot IS imapd and pop3 [13:35] slakuser (n=slakuser@87.13.165.143) left irc: "Sto andando via" [13:35] Dominian: sweeet, thanks. [13:35] np [13:35] firebird619, heya. didnt write any, but I see that I wont have the time to learn for all of them [13:36] crashx1 (n=relaxed@h138.200.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [13:36] slackytude: well, just hope for the best then. :P [13:36] hi firebird619 [13:36] Hey thrice`, how are you? [13:36] can I turn slackware into backtrack??? [13:36] O.o [13:36] firebird619, great advice -_- [13:36] nixpac3: no [13:36] nixpac3: sure. =P [13:36] just download the source =P [13:37] heh [13:37] acidchild, from where? [13:37] google.com [13:37] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:38] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [13:38] vbatts_work (n=vbatts@12.68.236.114) left irc: "Leaving" [13:38] what specifically about backtrack do you want ? [13:38] acidchild, have you done it before? [13:38] eh [13:38] I really think acidchild was messing with you [13:38] He probably just woke up and he's in one of those "moods" [13:39] why would i be able to ping a windows server by IP but not by Hostname? [13:39] watching cops in bed [13:39] heh. [13:39] i thought backtrack was just slackware + poorly packaged applications ? [13:39] hehe [13:39] HoldMyPocket: you dont have the hostname in /etc/hosts [13:39] or dns [13:39] thrice`: its just got a bunch of scripts/apps. [13:39] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:39] he could just download the source to them applications and download backtracks iso and steal the scripts backtrack has made. [13:39] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [13:40] spook: if i just created this virtual server, is it just a matter of time until the DNS picks it up? [13:40] HoldMyPocket: i suggest you read some books on networking. the 'for dummies' range might help you most. [13:40] Nick change: init[1]|znc -> Nancy [13:40] thrice`: poorly? [13:40] Nick change: Nancy -> init[1] [13:41] scram skiddie scram [13:41] spook: thanks for being so kind. [13:41] HoldMyPocket: it was the nicest way i could say no [13:41] with all this rum in my veins anyway [13:42] yes, backtrack is known to suck [13:42] the "for dummies" series are nice :P seen lots of people read them [13:42] skiddies skiddies [13:42] their channel is invite only [13:42] people used to go there too much to complain. [13:42] they come here and complain instead [13:43] thrice`: is anything better? [13:43] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:43] spook: it would be fun, if they complained about not getting in the other channel they used to complain [13:43] nixpac3: for what? [13:43] acidchild, u calling me a skiddie? [13:43] sure [13:43] =D [13:43] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:43] spook: well i actually learned somethig that i probably should have figured out myself.. (about the /etc/hosts file) so thank you spook, sincerely [13:44] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:44] acidchild, ? [13:44] Action: The-Croupier gets popcorn [13:44] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:44] nixpac3: why do you want backtrack ? [13:44] thrice`: is anything better than BT3 [13:44] FOR WHAT???111 [13:45] nixpac3: It would help if you actually said what you're trying to do. :) [13:45] thrice`: to learn about security n stuff [13:45] nixpac3: yeah, its called 'nano' [13:45] or 'vim' [13:45] skiddie [13:45] Action: firebird619 drops the whole container of butter all over The-Croupier's popcorn. :P [13:45] HoldMyPocket: i assure you, helping you was entirely unintentional [13:45] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:46] damn i run the slackbuild script .. where should i look for the tgz package ? [13:46] spook: It just happened? :P [13:46] Action: The-Croupier puts his head in the container full of butter [13:46] paul424: /tmp [13:46] paul424: /tmp [13:46] acidchild, what are u talkin about? [13:46] thrice`: oops sorry ;) didnt read that [13:46] spook: i know, i just thanked you to be an ass right back =) enjoy your day! [13:46] paul424: /dev/null [13:46] t4k3r0n_ (n=takeron@201.164.160.88) joined ##slackware. [13:46] :D [13:47] nixpac3: /dev/skiddie is a ln -s to /dev/fail [13:47] acidchild: lol [13:47] hmm /tmp does not contain it \ [13:47] guys, shall i tell them to check the topic...or just leave it a little bit more? [13:47] paul424: check /dev/null [13:47] mount /dev/null / [13:47] ;D [13:47] acidchild, imma skiddie bcuz i like bt3? [13:48] acidchild: what is next rm -rf? [13:48] nixpac3: i don't need reasons! [13:48] while root, while in / ... or do you have a script ready for it ;) [13:48] THOU SHALL NOT FAIL LIKE U [13:48] anTraxc (n=augusto@189-041-51-146.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:48] acidchild: until the next one comes along tomorrow? :P [13:48] cd /;find|cat|/dev/null [13:49] acidchild, skiddies dont code! im not a skiddie [13:49] bangs acidchild into head [13:49] oh noes all my files are being written to /dev/null [13:49] haha. [13:49] paul424: say wut? [13:49] Dominian: ping [13:49] The-Croupier: pong [13:49] paul424: fail more at irc [13:50] you getting this? [13:50] paul424: FYI.. acidchild is not the guy you wanna be messin' with :P [13:50] The-Croupier: Sort of.. tryijg to find a part of a s witch right now [13:50] dont destroy my fun matt [13:50] Dominian: you threw it somewhere? [13:50] i'm venting my rage on the world. on nixpac3 [13:50] t4k3r0n_ (n=takeron@201.164.160.88) left irc: Client Quit [13:50] acidchild: chillax, whats the matter? [13:50] haha nothing. [13:50] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-76-57.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:50] crashx- (n=relaxed@h68.135.89.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Connection timed out [13:50] nixpac3: i'm pulling your leg :> [13:51] spook: don;'t know what you mean :P [13:52] hmm thereis sbo directory but it doesn;t seems to have the usable tgz packages ? [13:52] acidchild, do u code? [13:52] acidchild: if i write scripts, am i a skiddie? :p [13:52] paul424: the way to do that is /me does something [13:52] haha The-Croupier OF COURSE [13:52] Action: spook doesnt fail [13:52] acidchild damn :( [13:52] lol [13:52] nixpac3 (n=tiddiete@71.16.214.27) left irc: "Leaving" [13:52] nixpac3: i draw my exploits in finger paint [13:52] LOL [13:52] acidchild: but that is not coding [13:52] hm [13:52] i want more fast food [13:52] stupid bash script [13:53] so i has a list with table data, tab separated [13:53] tewmten: bash scripts are never stupid [13:53] but if i run it in like for i in `cat list` ; do echo $i ; done each value is on its own line [13:53] time to use the ultimate blast weapon : tututuutut downloading the needed package from linux packages :P [13:53] i need them to be on the same line [13:53] or something [13:53] paul424: FUCK [13:53] paul424: DONT USE LINUXPACKAGES [13:54] NEVER EVER EVER [13:54] like for every line instead of every word.. [13:54] spook: I used LinuxPackages a long time ago... [13:54] tewmten: did you try #bash [13:54] spook: see! i got you in a yelling mood now [13:54] i usually ask there..;) they help alot ;) [13:54] acidchild: i was already in a barely controlled rage [13:54] :P [13:54] The-Croupier: nope [13:55] acidchild: when the guy thought dns worked like dhcp [13:55] /join barrfoo [13:56] mohaa (i=1000@92.49.77.71) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:56] paul424: dont use linuxpackages.net [13:56] mohaa (i=1000@92.49.78.108) joined ##slackware. [13:56] spook: you said it twice, do you think he read it 1/2 of what you said? [13:57] spook: yeah I know it souinds like souicide .. but I am desperated :\ [13:57] paul424: dont use linuxpackages.net want me to keep saying it? [13:57] paul424: don't use linuxpackages.net [13:57] The-Croupier: no [13:57] The-Croupier: apparently the client lost theirs [13:58] Lucky I'm a part-whore.. and keep everything extra that I find.. I have an extra rack mount kit right here for the switch [13:58] <|Slacker|> what's with linuxpackages.net? [13:58] is there any way to know wheteher slackbuild script ended succesfully [13:58] paul424: when the package is created .. its successful.. if its done properly for "set -e" etc [13:59] |Slacker|: so, so many things [13:59] http://www.movietome.com/pages/media_player/index.php?video_id=b_6bhvpq6E643w6_ogU <--terminator 3-the salvation damn [13:59] |Slacker|: the main problem with linuxpackages.net and the only one you should care about is that many of their packages are built on nonstandard systems, have weird dependencies and sometimes they are not of very high quality [14:00] cause I do build some python library ,,, and even I do not know waht should i obtain ........ [14:00] |Slacker|: this will helP: http://noobfarm.org/?id=1095 [14:00] t4k3r0n_ (n=takeron@201.164.160.88) joined ##slackware. [14:00] <|Slacker|> ok...thanks [14:01] <|Slacker|> didn't know about that [14:01] number_three (n=chatzill@adsl-76-252-26-140.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:01] Dominian: you provide switches? [14:01] The-Croupier: we do everything here. [14:02] Most of the equipment we manage/sell is only available to wholesalers through vendor programs.. so.. [14:02] Dominian: nice to know, and where is "here"? [14:02] The-Croupier: http://tls.net [14:03] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [14:03] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.34.90) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:03] hey, im surprised, slackware doesnt come with mplayer as default? i found this out when i just performed slackpkg clean-system [14:03] missyjane: easily added. [14:04] missyjane: it does in -current [14:04] pattwo (n=sysadmin@d206-75-63-100.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [14:04] ah [14:05] it removes rkhunter too, haha [14:06] it'll remove anything that isn't part of slackware [14:06] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.95.98) left irc: "Leaving" [14:06] hulu working for greek people now ;) [14:07] Dominian: checking that website tomorrow...looks like an awsome place to work lots of nice things to do [14:07] with first look [14:08] The-Croupier: oh yes.. lots of stuff [14:09] sounds like an ideal place to work.. [14:10] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:10] Action: The-Croupier goes for his research ;) guys thanks for the movie sites ;) [14:10] http://www.joost.com/?playNow=048kx5z#id=0485n9i [14:10] hahaha [14:12] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Connection timed out [14:13] l0lwut (i=4540ec34@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c082d2c82552bb6c) joined ##slackware. [14:13] jumperboy (n=jumperbo@gl206.websiteproject.net) joined ##slackware. [14:14] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:15] <|Slacker|> gotta got o work [14:15] <|Slacker|> bye ppl [14:15] I'm at work lol [14:15] later [14:15] anybody using the latest orage? [14:15] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: "Leaving" [14:15] it seems to think there are 8 days in a week [14:15] ghetto (n=ghetto@78.166.135.112) joined ##slackware. [14:16] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.198) joined ##slackware. [14:16] http://john.bitsurge.net/public/Screenshot-38.png [14:16] so anyone know the scam/affiliate behind these google pays me 2000$/aday things..? [14:17] /week or w/e [14:17] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [14:17] Nick change: init[1] -> init[1]|znc [14:17] acidchild, as far as i know, its basically a program that tells you to sign up for adsense [14:17] also I am screwed with the style does the python deliver its packages ... some werid scripts that are runned under python ... just don;'t know how to use them ... [14:19] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*.at.shellium.org expired. [14:19] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*.at.shellium.org' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:19] paul424: so acidchild was right..you are a skiddie [14:19] Action: The-Croupier goes back to research [14:20] hi all, can someone tell me, how to read a chm file, which is compiled form "mht" files [14:20] number_three (n=chatzill@adsl-76-252-26-140.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [14:21] giuppy (n=giuppy@host143-164-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:21] chm files are windows help files arent they? [14:21] The-Croupier: i'm not [14:21] yes [14:22] cant you just get a chm reader? [14:22] D-r_Flower: try downloading kchmviewer [14:22] D-r_Flower: chmsee from sbo [14:22] i use kchmviewer for them, but it is ok when the file contain html components and is not so in that case, the content is mht files [14:22] :) [14:23] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [14:23] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:23] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:24] anTraxc (n=augusto@189-041-51-146.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:26] There are a few chm readers out there that read mhtml, I dont think any of them are on slackbuilds though. Try googleing it [14:26] Dominian: sweet, I got dovecot configured and running now. I'm just reading some more for how I can have opera access it, etc. Thanks again. [14:26] ah, i did google but no result. i have wine installed too :) but no succes from google [14:26] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:27] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-431567.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:27] If you have wine installed you can try the trial of http://www.etextwizard.com/easychm.html it says it reads mht files [14:28] ok, thank u. [14:28] np [14:29] there is chmSee, too [14:29] so one more differnet question. can i upgrade anly glib2 from the current three, i use 12.2 [14:29] Does that read mhtml? [14:29] D-r_Flower: Don't do that [14:29] Do a full upgrade or not at all [14:30] i.e. to compile it on my system and upgrade with my package [14:30] anyone haves a dlink 624T router ? [14:30] back to work :-( [14:30] l0lwut (i=4540ec34@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c082d2c82552bb6c) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [14:30] it might be fine but you can't expect much help troubleshooting issues after that [14:31] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:31] antiwire: i see, i ll try and eventualy switch back [14:32] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:32] thefalling (n=thefalli@mo-65-40-251-202.sta.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [14:32] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:33] t4k3r0n_ (n=takeron@201.164.160.88) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:34] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [14:34] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:36] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] hm... how risky is it to upgrade kernel with slackpkg? [14:38] Worked fine for me, just make sure you update the initrds and your bootloader before rebooting [14:39] D:.... i dunno how to update those [14:40] then you shouldn't be updating to them [14:40] ok i wont [14:40] ya ...if it works dont fix it [14:40] lol [14:41] i just find the new-found power of slackpkg amazing [14:41] only one error out of the many packages i upgraded [14:42] tenlet (n=ev2@pool-173-70-49-189.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:42] Can you install the latest slackware from XP? [14:42] suid0_ (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [14:42] to dual-boot ofcourse [14:42] windows xp? [14:42] yes [14:42] yes i believe so [14:42] tenlet, from within it? no. [14:42] you want to dual boot, yes, from within, i cant imagine [14:43] everytime i try to burn the latest slackware iso to a cd, it doesn't work [14:43] you can burn a cd in xp, and then install it by rebooting to the cd [14:43] Hey hiptobecubic, how's it going? [14:43] tenlet, doesn't work like how [14:43] slack has no wubi function [14:43] you can just install ubuntu [14:43] tg [14:43] :) [14:43] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:43] tenlet: got another pc with about 5gb space? [14:43] it doesn't even load to the command line on the boot CD [14:43] yes i do spook [14:43] you're burning the disks incorrectly, the system has a bios bug and doesn't like the load sector count, or your driver is unhappy [14:43] firebird619, swell thanks. trying to get my resume together [14:43] tenlet: install over the network. [14:43] driver/drive [14:43] antiwire: it did give me an error about a sector line 32 or something of that nature [14:44] sounded like my CD drive was the problem [14:44] tenlet: make a usb boot stick then install over network. [14:44] that sounds like the load sector issue [14:44] are you building the iso image yourself too? [14:45] antiwire: downloaded the .iso from several known mirrors, all had the same problem [14:45] try dropping the -boot-load-size down to 4 [14:45] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.67.79) joined ##slackware. [14:45] yes because they all use 32 [14:45] melk (n=melk@189-10-95-161.cpece705.e.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:45] some systems don't like that [14:45] or use my suggestion which means not wasting any more cds [14:45] spook: let me try antiwire's way first, if not i will be back to ask lol [14:45] i already have the CD's burned though [14:46] tenlet: you need to build the iso yourself to change that [14:46] spook's method is faster [14:46] oh [14:46] hmm [14:46] i need 5 gb for a boot disk? [14:46] No. [14:46] i have pxe setup, so i just plug a computer into either my home network or my eeepc and BAM i can install slackware [14:46] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:47] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:47] tenlet, befoure you make a usb stick does your macnine support usb boots [14:47] you may have to turn it on in the bios [14:47] tenlet: you need maybe about 3-4gb for the package tree, which is on the dvd image [14:47] yes, it does vampire [14:47] spook: i have a 2gb [14:47] tenlet: no on the computer [14:47] i need a usb boot to install over the network? [14:47] the usb image is about 34mb [14:47] tenlet: just create a usb boot stick and use the dvd just ofr the packages [14:47] spook: I keep a ftp server on my desktop for netinstalls. [14:48] NaCl: http://spooksoftware.com/slackware/ [14:48] boo ftp [14:48] antiwire: boot off the usb, then install all the packages from the CD? [14:48] tenlet: sort of. [14:48] it's funny, i can install 10.0 just fine, but 12.0+ is a problem [14:48] except over the network using samba/http/nfs/ftp etc [14:48] hiptobecubic: what's the matter with a local ftp Slackware server? :P [14:49] spook, lol your website [14:49] spook, a work in progress i hope ;) [14:49] hiptobecubic: lol about what exactly? [14:49] telnet, do u have a different sinature for disks? [14:49] hiptobecubic: yeah, never got round to finishing it [14:49] tenlet: again, I think this is because some systems don't like the -boot-load-size 32 and 12+ has a bigger initrd than the older versions [14:49] "We specialise in free open source solutions, which helps you get the low price and high quality you require. transition to Linux from Windows becoming easier and easier, discount or cheap or something" :D :D :D [14:49] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [14:50] melk (n=melk@189-10-95-161.cpece705.e.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [14:50] can i boot from a USB drive, then do a net-install from a mirror? [14:50] tenlet, yes [14:50] that sounds the easiest [14:50] hiptobecubic: yeah also note the complete lack of structure or grammar or capitalisation on the other pages [14:50] tenlet, if you know how to set your networking up (not that's it's very hard) [14:50] why not just put the cd/dvd in and use it for the packages [14:50] it will be faster than the mirror. [14:50] I've done that many times [14:50] tenlet, do what antiwire says :D [14:50] tenlet: you want to do a local mirror [14:51] so another computer on your network. [14:51] boot off the USB stick and use the dvd you have already created as the package source. [14:51] seriously guys...he's on XP [14:51] ok [14:51] antiwire: he can use samba [14:51] thats supported for netinstalls since 12.2 [14:52] Yeah I'm aware of that [14:52] i actually only burned the first 3 CDs for slack 12.1 [14:52] 12.1? [14:52] speaking of mirrors, and i dont want to take away from helping tenlet so if someone else knows.. is there a wiki/webpage that would give me an idea how to set up a public slack mirror [14:52] tenlet: that's all you need [14:52] figuring that i would install the pkgs later on [14:52] wtf. [14:52] VampirePenguin: see my link above? [14:52] tenlet: 12.1? [14:52] yes, those were the cd's i had burned [14:52] about 4 months ago [14:53] have fun with this then [14:53] VampirePenguin: thats just a slackware box, running apache, with the package tree rsynced [14:53] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Success [14:53] no i dont keep a big buffer so it already scrolled off screen [14:53] hah.. 12.1 vs 12.2 ... big difference? [14:53] VampirePenguin: http://spooksoftware.com/slackware/ [14:53] tenlet: BIIIG [14:53] you're not going to have the samba option for packages and I don't even think 12.1 supported USB boot [14:53] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.209.134) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [14:53] 12.1 didnt support USB boot? lol.. odd [14:53] odd? [14:53] usb boot has been around for a long while [14:53] 12.1 is recent [14:54] tenlet: you should consider getting at least 12.2 [14:54] 12.1 supports USB boot [14:54] ok [14:54] isnt 12.2 the latest? [14:54] http://spooksoftware.com/slackware/slackware-12.1/usb-and-pxe-installers [14:54] We're almost at 13.0 tenlet [14:54] :) [14:54] tenlet: yes, and the next version is probably just around the corner [14:54] spook how many gb's is that using for what you have there [14:54] VampirePenguin: for all of it? or specific parts? [14:55] all [14:55] ive got the bandwidth 25Mbs [14:55] unlimited [14:55] spook: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.0/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [14:55] antiwire: since i don't have 12.2, create a usb boot, net-install from a external mirror? [14:55] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:55] alienBOB: seriously .. yay :) [14:55] tenlet: I guess. I don't know. [14:56] has anybody problem with virtualbox-ose-addons?slackbuilds try to find a kmk file but nothing [14:56] thefalling (n=thefalli@mo-65-40-251-202.sta.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:56] 4.8G slackware-12.1 4.4G slackware-12.2 3.8G slackware64-current 5.0G slamd64-12.1 4.6G slamd64-12.2 [14:56] init[1]|znc: even Slackware 11.0 could do a USB boot: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-11.0/BOOTING.TXT [14:56] coz_ (n=coz@unaffiliated/coz/x-457345) joined ##slackware. [14:56] so 25gb [14:56] not bad at all [14:57] coz_ (n=coz@unaffiliated/coz/x-457345) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:57] zet345 (i=1000@117.200.61.30) joined ##slackware. [14:57] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:57] VampirePenguin: i only have the 12.1 there because of some boxes that run it, with massive uptime [14:57] alienBOB: i mean the release of 13.0 , i knew about usb support in 11 :) [14:57] SpacePlod, nods [14:57] spook, [14:57] lol [14:57] oops [14:57] VampirePenguin: i'd like to mirror 32-current, but running out of space. [14:57] with a USB boot of 12.2, does it recognize wireless networks? [14:58] nope [14:58] i have about 145gb of space [14:58] tenlet: you cant netinstall from wireless [14:58] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [14:58] antiwire, im getting uverse [14:58] it would be easy to rsync it [14:58] jeev: cool [14:58] fark charter [14:58] jeev: let us know how much you end up hating that too [14:58] lol [14:58] for sure [14:58] they're building it out here almost done [14:58] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.86.245) joined ##slackware. [14:59] tenlet: if you don't have a cd/dvd drive you can download the ISO and boot from usb , mount the iso an install Slackware [14:59] VampirePenguin: /dev/md/0 37G 29G 6.3G 83% / [14:59] jeev: If that ends up sucking too, why don't you just get a local business provider to set you up with a business dsl line? [14:59] you can get all kinds of different speeds [14:59] mount the .iso from the boot cmd line? [14:59] lot of monies [14:59] or move to japan where they have sensible isps [15:00] true spewk [15:00] tenlet: yes [15:00] 100mb fiber [15:00] im gonna install slack on this laptop that came free and go to my grrs [15:00] tenlet: btw you should have partition that contain the iso image [15:00] init: use disk management with XP ? [15:00] create the partition and then throw the .iso on there? [15:01] tenlet: i mean , linux support file system [15:01] lol. [15:01] fat32 [15:01] was gonna use ext3 [15:01] tenlet: no , see [15:01] cant. [15:02] zet345 (i=1000@117.200.61.30) left irc: "Leaving" [15:02] ghetto (n=ghetto@78.166.135.112) left ##slackware. [15:02] assume you have 3 partitions /dev/sda1(ext 3) /dev/sda2 (ext3) ... [15:02] what you do it [15:02] is [15:02] download the iso image [15:02] i only have one partition right now, which is a single 60gb HD for XP [15:02] with 20 GB free [15:02] gg. [15:02] 20GB free or 20GB empty/unpartitioned? [15:02] tenlet: what did you expect to do? [15:02] free [15:03] tenlet: you need to resize it with a tool like gparted liveCD or something else [15:03] not sure, partition the 20GB towards slack and throw the .iso there, boot from a USB and run the iso [15:03] ... [15:03] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.52.209.210) joined ##slackware. [15:03] and only 20GB and only 20GB of free space is going ot cut it tight for each OS anyway [15:03] tenlet: what is the size of your usb [15:04] hd [15:04] hmm. repeat repeater. oops [15:04] usb=2gb, hd=60gb [15:04] more that 2 gb [15:04] ok [15:04] ..................... [15:04] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [15:05] spook: no one is listening [15:05] spook: it's ok [15:05] tenlet: first you will have to make some partitions on your disk [15:05] or else how do you expect to install ? [15:06] spook: does that mean to close ? [15:06] init: i figured that, but didn't want to get started not knowing exactly how i was going to install [15:06] init[1]|znc: I just said that... [15:06] init[1]|znc: that means i cannot believe how people dont listen [15:06] also barely contained rage [15:06] hmmm :_ [15:06] :) [15:07] this is spook right now http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2594/rage1wv6.jpg [15:08] lol [15:08] well not that ugly [15:08] jamess__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:08] but you get the general idea [15:09] on virtualbox-ose-addons,the slackbuild cant go into KBuild directory.....and i can't go in with cd command....this problem is only onKBuild folder..... [15:09] have you understood the prerequisite ? [15:09] tenlet: [15:10] tenlet: if you are scared to do , you can use a Virtual Machine :) then touch the bare metal :) [15:10] yea got it [15:10] he gets to ruin another cd by burning the gparted LiveCD, or if he can handle the gparted LiveUSB instructions he could try that. [15:11] firebird619: not a problem [15:11] tenlet: WARNING: back up any critical data. [15:11] there it has been said. [15:11] antiwire: i imo i feel he need sandbox like vm :) [15:12] man, my mother can really break computers [15:12] WARNING: DATA MAY BE MORE EASILY CORRUPTED THAT IT APPEARS [15:12] init[1]|znc: well that's not what he asked for. [15:12] somehow all entries in the two xfce panels have no configuration anymore [15:12] antiwire: yea that is true :) [15:12] slackytude: lol [15:12] dont know how she does it [15:13] the funny thing is, the entries are correct. where there used to be a launcher is still a launcher, but just a generic unconfidurated one [15:13] lol [15:13] unconfigurated as well [15:14] Dominian: I was just on the dovecot site and checking out the part for testing that dovecot is working. I get connection refused. :P Time for diagnostics. :D [15:14] slackytude: she might be deleting the pannel [15:14] I guess I let my mom test slack13 first, if she cant break, its stable [15:14] slackytude: she's using kde? [15:14] no xfce [15:14] slackytude: ah [15:14] init[1]|znc, then the whole panel should be gone [15:15] what about each element ? [15:15] in the pannel [15:15] [remove] option [15:15] the elements are there, just generic. say the launcher that used to launch FF is still there, but its just a launcher with no command attached to it [15:15] ahh, she found another problem [15:15] brb [15:16] ok . . [15:16] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:16] tenlet (n=ev2@pool-173-70-49-189.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [15:16] Action: init[1]|znc out of my client :) [15:16] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [15:17] dustybin (n=dustybin@174.142.38.197) joined ##slackware. [15:17] generally its bad trademanship to be in your client [15:17] snowdonkey (i=1000@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:17] I got a dell laptop here with slack 12.1 kernel 2.6.24.5-smp on it but the eth0 netcard is not recognized it is e1000e msi /msi-x. Cam I just reconfigure kernel or do i need to upload driver on a usb token? [15:17] jamess__: installing? [15:18] slackware is installed [15:18] but it dont find the eth0 [15:18] Hello! [15:18] you might need to go to 12.2 [15:18] or update to a kernel released this year. [15:18] cmair (n=cmair@host211-58-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:19] it is 2.6.24.5-smp [15:19] yeah. that was released like early last year? [15:21] firebird619: well, ps aux | grep dovecot should reveal something [15:21] if you don't see anything.. then it isn't running :P [15:21] cmair (n=cmair@host211-58-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Client Quit [15:22] so i just download a new kernel http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2/slackware/k/kernel-source-2.6.27.7_smp-noarch-1.tgz and put on usb flash and install there? [15:22] cmair (n=cmair@host211-58-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:22] jamess__: uuuuuh, no. [15:22] jamess__: easiest way is to use 12.2 or -current [15:22] cmair (n=cmair@host211-58-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Client Quit [15:22] Dominian: erm, it isn't running. I had ran /etc/rc.d/rc.dovecot start. :P [15:22] can i not just upgrade kernel here [15:23] cmair (n=cmair@host211-58-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:23] sure [15:23] Dominian: I just tried /etc/rc.d/rc.dovecot restart and get: /etc/rc.d/rc.dovecot: line 26: dovecot: command not found [15:23] firebird619, he had his shots today [15:23] yeah, sure [15:24] nix_chix0r: does he like needles or not? [15:24] nix_chix0r: Ah, so they didn't cancel this time. He's doing alright from them? No fever or anyting? [15:24] he was already screaming because he was hungry in he waiting room and passed out after so [15:24] i dont reallly think he cared [15:24] heh [15:24] heh, issue solves [15:24] heh, issue solved [15:24] i think he did fine [15:24] he grew 4inches and is 11lbs 6oz [15:24] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) joined ##slackware. [15:24] /home was full, no space left [15:25] apparently, xfce tried to save session and stuff got corrupted [15:25] she said she saw some error messages but didnt think about it [15:25] deleted a game from sister, everything works [15:25] Action: slackytude goes back to learning [15:26] 100% full always causes issues [15:26] nix_chix0r: hows daddy? pulling his weight, nappy etc wise? [15:26] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [15:27] yeah we kinda had a huge fight probaly 30minutes ago because i didnt wake up at 6am to feed him because he said he would and he slammed the door [15:27] but it's resolve [15:27] i can't wake up and insantly go back to sleep like him [15:27] tooly (n=tooly@e178145001.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:28] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-211.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:28] its an art [15:28] firebird619: what's on line 26? [15:28] Dominian: line 25 is just dovecot [15:28] oh.. dovecot [15:28] uhhh [15:28] Ekc_ (n=iskar@77-85-30-36.btc-net.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [15:28] you are starting this as root right...? [15:28] yes [15:28] eh [15:28] which dovecot [15:29] type that [15:29] nix_chix0r: just refuse him sex for another 6 months [15:29] should be /usr/sbin/dovecot [15:29] >.> [15:29] that's just fuckin evil lol [15:29] I tried just running dovecot itself and got: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/14710 [15:31] firebird619: it probably won't start until you edit dovecot.conf and change mail_extra_groups to mail_access_groups as suggested [15:31] Dominian: ok, I'll give that a try. [15:31] that doesnt explain the command not found error tho [15:32] Action: slackytude goes really back to learning [15:32] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("()"). [15:33] Dominian: ok, did that, tried starting it, I get the same as pastebin minus the deprecated line about changing to mail_access_groups [15:33] nvision_ (n=nvision@p4FC019D1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:34] the D word came up [15:34] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC019D1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:34] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:34] nix_chix0r: no way ^_^ [15:35] nix_chix0r: dickings? [15:35] as in, HOT, DICKINGS. [15:35] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:35] i doubt it's gonna go down like that... too little to get worked up over [15:36] firebird619: pastebin it [15:37] Dominian: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/14711 [15:37] Dominian: Ah, ok, the log gives some more info. [15:38] firebird619: k [15:38] need to see the logs [15:38] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-19-129-196.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [15:38] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/14712 [15:38] hey firebird619 [15:38] ahhh [15:38] firebird619: how are you authing your users? Local? [15:39] Hey fluxnuk3r [15:39] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.67.79) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:39] firebird619: http://wiki.dovecot.org/AuthDatabase/PasswdFile [15:39] I did the upgrade to current but nothing kde-based works. cant find libqt for some reason [15:40] fluxnuk3r: ls /var/log/packages/qt-* ? [15:40] Dominian: thanks, I'll check that out. [15:40] yo :) [15:41] qt-r963397-i486-1 [15:41] heh [15:41] y0 Camarade_Tux [15:41] firebird619: I believe you can just set the userdb to use passwd-file auth and just use /etc/passwd [15:41] fluxnuk3r: mm, can you pastebin "ls /var/log/packages/kde*" ? [15:41] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-76-57.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [15:41] eduke32 -net /no ...:25000 :) [15:42] Dominian: Hmm, ok. That would be configed in dovecot.conf correct. Like change where I have /etc/passwd.dovecot to /etc/passwd? [15:42] Camarade_Tux: you playing duke with yourself? :P [15:43] thrice`: http://pastebin.ca/1465236 [15:43] fluxnuk3r: any reason you didn't upgrade kde/ ? :) [15:44] i only use k3b xD [15:44] you also have 2 versions of qt4 installed [15:44] _ohm (n=nava@pool-71-99-30-120.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:44] that doesn't matter; you can' update qt to that of -current, while leaving kde at version 3.5.0 [15:44] 3.5.9* [15:44] who is the greatest corporation against hackers? [15:44] ok. i'll updat it now [15:45] update* [15:45] sorry crackers :( [15:45] fluxnuk3r: also, you should remove qt4, and re-install qt-rBLAHBLAH [15:45] hm [15:45] k [15:45] qt-rXXX = qt4 [15:46] firebird619, yeah, I like to caress my big horizontal rpg =) [15:46] so, having another qt4 package doesn't make sense [15:46] Dominian: ok, I made that change, still the same message. [15:46] Camarade_Tux: haha, I figured you'd be the type to do that. :P [15:47] firebird619, I especially like doing that in front of strippers :) [15:47] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:47] Dominian: only this time, the log shows a different message about invalid UID and GID '0' [15:48] Camarade_Tux: so the strippers can say oh my, what a big gun, he must be overcompensating for something? :P [15:48] Does slackpkg have any dry run ability? I'd like to see what would happen with clean-system without actually removing anything. [15:48] tooly (n=tooly@e178145001.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [15:49] man slackpkg [15:49] firebird619: did that [15:49] firebird619, yeah, that's why I shoot them :) [15:50] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A762D7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:50] hahaha [15:50] Action: Camarade_Tux caresses slackytude2 [15:50] O_o [15:51] How was your math exam= [15:51] has anyone ever run slackpkg clean-system? does it pop up a list like upgrade-all so you can back out? [15:51] anyone know a dog eat dog bastard hardcore mal-practice lawyer ? like your brother, friend, whatever. I know this is a crazy question to ask in here but i am looking for the best lawyer i can find. thought i might as well ask in here. [15:51] slackytude2, pretty good, thanks :) [15:51] jumperboy: yes [15:51] jumperboy, yes [15:51] thanks [15:51] crap, too slow ='( [15:52] firebird619: YOu'll have to read through the documentation on that one [15:52] Dominian: doing so now. :) [15:52] Camarade_Tux, ^-^ [15:52] last time I saw that, I reacted as if it were slackware's setup : select what you want, unselect what you don't want... the other way round... [15:52] Camarade_Tux, glad to hear [15:52] :) [15:52] Camarade_Tux: ouch! [15:52] Action: slackytude2 goes back to learning [15:53] jumperboy, I recompiled almost everything in about one hour [15:54] Dominian: It complains about root, sync, shutdown, halt, and operator. Should it even be looking for those accounts. Shouldn't it be just my user? [15:54] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.86.245) left irc: "Leaving" [15:55] hey, Im done with that! [15:56] Action: slackytude2 happily deletes netbeans [15:56] take that! [15:56] Nick change: suid0_ -> suid0 [15:57] yay! [16:00] lol [16:01] Dominian: nm, it's all working, running now. :D [16:02] Now to figure out where to tell opera to connect to for mail and all will be well. :D [16:02] Action: firebird619 reads some more [16:04] Action: Necos prods firebird619 randomly [16:04] jamess__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:04] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:05] Sorry for goiing slightly off-topic, but can anyone recommend a 54g chip that can act as an access point (like hostap used to do with prism chips)? I'm building a slackware router box and I'd like to implement wireless. [16:05] Action: firebird619 prods Necos back. [16:05] Action: Necos giggles [16:05] firebird619: you and that email.. are you happy yet? =) [16:05] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-128-65.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:06] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-76-57.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:06] dtanner: Not until I get opera configured to use imap with dovecot, then I'll be happy. [16:06] why so much trouble for email? just curious. [16:07] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [16:08] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72CC1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:08] Ekc (n=iskar@77-85-30-36.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [16:08] omg that jack in the box burger was terrible [16:09] Action: dtanner smashes all fast food joints [16:09] Well, I've had issues with my e-mail and headers missing, message bodies missing, etc. so I got this app from SBo called mpop that downloads all my mail to ~/Maildir, I then have got dovecot configured now with imap, I now want to get opera working via imap to get mail and have it also stored there in the ~/Maildir as a backup, etc. [16:09] dtanner: Ever had a Culver's ButterBurger? Mmmmmm, good. [16:09] never [16:09] never heard of Culver's [16:10] snowdonkey (i=1000@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:10] jamess__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:10] hahaha [16:10] dtanner: Here, 3424 W. William Cannon <--Austin, TX. :D [16:10] Culvers [16:11] heh, well austin has everything. doesn [16:11] doesn't suprise me we have one [16:11] There's one here too: 2240 W. Braker Lane in Austin [16:11] braker is closer to me [16:11] i may give it a try [16:11] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] They are excellent, of course imo. [16:11] firebird619: why would mpop solve your problems? it's just another pop client... [16:12] firebird619: why not just use fetchmail and pine? [16:12] jumperboy: exactly, but it's separate of my mail program getting the mail. mpop just gets the mail to ~/Maildir and then leaves it alone. [16:12] pine :O [16:12] The-Croupier: why do you say I am a skiddie ? [16:12] dtanner: I got fetchmail configured too, but I found this mpop and it worked great for what I want. [16:13] because you have skidmarks in your drawers [16:13] that's kinda narsty NukeDukem [16:13] heh [16:13] now I just need to get opera configured with dovecot to see the mail at ~/Maildir [16:13] dtanner: Is that what you use? fetchmail and pine? [16:13] i did for many years until gmail [16:14] i kinda miss pine actually [16:14] I tried mutt last night, pointed it at ~/Maildir, etc. and it didn't work at all [16:14] It didn't show a single message. [16:14] i like being able to access my email for anywhere so now i use gmail instead. [16:14] firebird619: simply downloading to a directory named Maildir isn't enough [16:14] So, I just need to know what address or whatever dovecot uses so I can point opera to it and see the mail. [16:15] NukeDukem: <_< [16:15] paul424: you still getting a hard time ? [16:15] dtanner: yeah, I have that gmail account now, and it's nice, but I also need my isp mail, which, has a web mail interface as well that I can access from anywhere. [16:16] firebird619: have gmail pop it. [16:16] done [16:16] jumperboy: For what I am doing, it certainly is. [16:16] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [16:16] dtanner: yeah, I thought about that too, but I'd like to get this going as well. [16:16] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.153.86) joined ##slackware. [16:17] firebird619: I mean it has to follow the Maildir protocol, which is directory-based (which mpop might be doing, never used it) [16:17] I know all that, mpop is doing just what I want it to. [16:18] Action: Urchlay misses pine, too [16:18] y0 Urchlay, how's it going? [16:18] Ekc (n=iskar@77-85-30-36.btc-net.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [16:18] Action: spook prefers oak [16:18] why not elm? :P [16:18] will use it again when/if I wrest control of my domain back... [16:18] teak isnt bad either [16:18] i ran guiless for several years Urchlay. i never had one single issue with fetchmail and pine. [16:18] hola, firebird619 [16:18] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.102.120) joined ##slackware. [16:19] spook: swamp ash... good wood for beefy-sounding electric guitars [16:19] I miss my les paul custom :( [16:19] Urchlay: what about marble? [16:19] dtanner: I did have occasional issues with my setup, but invariably it was my custom mail-filtering perl script causing the problem [16:20] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [16:20] Ekc (n=iskar@77-85-30-36.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [16:20] spook: marble? you mean like you build ancient Roman monuments out of? Bit heavy for guitars... [16:20] no as an email client [16:21] ah. Eh, never heard of it [16:21] v4nelle (n=van@adsl42-150.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:21] Urchlay: i had an acrylic clear guitar "Dan Armstong" years ago. it was the heaviest guitar I ever played. [16:21] i suppose you havent heard of granite either [16:21] alpha213 (n=alpha@cpe-72-183-217-40.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:21] spook: an email client called granite? no... I pretty much stuck with pine, except when I was playing with mutt [16:22] Urchlay: i sold it for 250 bucks in the late 70's. they are collectors items now. they came with three quick change plugin pickups. [16:22] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:22] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "pqp" [16:22] dtanner: heaviest guitar (bass, actually) I ever owned is a kramer with travis bean aluminum neck. If I strap it on and play for half an hour, my shoulder hurts for the next couple days :( [16:22] evenin' [16:23] hi dtanner :) [16:23] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [16:23] what package is kdeinit in? anyone know? [16:23] also have a peavey T-60 guitar, the body's huge and make out of like mahogany or something [16:23] fluxnuk3r: probally kdebase [16:24] alpha213 (n=alpha@cpe-72-183-217-40.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [16:24] spook: thanks. i figured as much but thought i'd ask.. [16:24] fluxnuk3r: if you're on -current, there doesn't seem to be a kdeinit binary in kde4 [16:25] Urchlay: here is a re-issue -> http://tinyurl.com/nqopw8 [16:25] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [16:25] dtanner: that is slick [16:25] tewmten: =) had your daily hashish+coffee yet? you lucky bastard. [16:25] dtanner: haha yeah.. [16:25] what's the body, basically plexiglass? [16:25] Urchlay: so kdeinit would not be in it's own package then..? [16:26] dtanner: but im having a real bad mid-week depression so.. :S [16:26] Urchlay: yes [16:26] fluxnuk3r: on -current, it does not exist (there are libraries called libkdeinit_*.so, but no actual kdeinit binary) [16:26] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:26] Urchlay: look close above the pickup you can see the cavity where it slides out for quick change [16:27] fluxnuk3r: on 12.2, eh, try grepping for it in /var/log/packages/kde* [16:27] tewmten: too bad on the depression. hang in there. :P [16:27] dtanner: yeah, I see it... how come there are 2 strap buttons on the back end of the body? [16:28] dtanner: yeah man.. i know, its just a rough moment.. [16:28] so you could connect it twice to a strap [16:29] ah, less likely to let go on you and drop to the floor... [16:29] they were extremely heavy , and they came out before strap locks were real popular I guess. [16:29] yup, that is my take on it. [16:29] I used to have one of these (but fretless): http://www.guitarsandeffects.com/guitarimages2006/kramer_450b_aluminium/kramer_bass_lp_classicplus_015.jpg [16:29] that is pretty [16:29] hehe i started playing around with bash scripts and tput.. gonna see if i can make a top-like script to monitor our search engines at work :P [16:29] all my kdebase packages are corrupt -.- [16:29] would take some getting used to playing a fretless [16:29] but they get a cool sound [16:29] it does, yeah [16:30] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.105.244) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:30] replaced that one with another that has the same neck, different body, EMG pickups [16:30] oh well, sleep time [16:30] good nights boys n girls [16:31] being made of a solid piece of aluminum, the neck has no trussrod... after 10+ years the neck got bowed, and I have no idea how to straighten it :( [16:31] Urchlay: not a great pic but here a some of my guitars -> http://picasaweb.google.com/slacktop/Studio?authkey=Gv1sRgCJz44b7dyPv5UA#5317193460106359218 [16:31] here are* [16:31] Urchlay, which is why i say people should just use normal guitars 8-P [16:32] dtanner: I can't read the labels, the one on the left is a gibson though, right? [16:32] you can't really see the finishes/colors good in that pic [16:32] yes the far left is a gibson lespaul studio model [16:33] the second from left is one i had custom made by torres engineering frmo a johnson body [16:33] the other two are ibanez [16:33] TwinReverb: I have a couple of fancy "high tech" basses now, and a couple of low-tech ones as backups :) [16:33] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:34] http://www.ianperge.com/images/pictures/fender.jpg <--- that's my main player, these days [16:34] dtanner, do you record? [16:34] hiptobecubic: yes [16:35] sounds great, plays like butter, but has ginormous PCB inside, not user-serviceable at all [16:35] hiptobecubic: here is my main mixer -> http://picasaweb.google.com/slacktop/Studio?authkey=Gv1sRgCJz44b7dyPv5UA#5317193596215042930 [16:35] dtanner, any samples? [16:35] the backup for it: http://www.newjerseyguitarandbasscenter.com/313-FenderJP90.jpg [16:36] i like the basses Urchlay , look real nice. [16:36] 4 string? [16:36] hiptobecubic: let me see if i have anything on this machine [16:37] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:37] mannynix: yeah, the backup bass is 4-string [16:37] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:37] Urchlay: cool, aren't you used to 5 and 4 throws you off? [16:37] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-130-200.aei.ca) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:37] dtanner: I should take some pics of them (those are just random images of the same models, of course) [16:38] cmair (n=cmair@host211-58-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Reconnecting" [16:38] Urchlay, right now my rig consists of a Schecter C-1 Classic, Fender Lite Ash Stratocaster, Fender Pro Junior, and Boss ME-50 [16:38] cmair (n=cmair@host211-58-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:38] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-142-130.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:38] mannynix: nah. when I first started playing 5-string, it threw me off, but I got used to it... now I can play either with no problem [16:39] "lite ash", like light-colored or lightweight? [16:39] it's just what they call it i guess [16:39] it's made of Swamp Ash, sometimes called Lite Ash i guess [16:39] Urchlay: Great, I only play 4 stings, simple precisions [16:40] mannynix: the 5 is useful if you have a singer who keeps wanting to drop stuff down a half or whole step. Keeps you from having to retune. [16:40] song normally in E, but "let's try it in Eb" [16:40] nheco (n=nheco@189.73.189.163) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:41] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [16:41] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:41] hiptobecubic: i found a couple of tunes here on this box. i can dcc them if you want. [16:41] Urchlay: That's right, it's the standard nowadays. On the 4 I use the Hipshot D-tuner, good enough for me [16:41] nothing posted anywhere? [16:41] no [16:41] not yet [16:42] been meaning to get my site going but have not gotten around to it [16:42] sure we can try dcc, not sure it will get through thuogh [16:43] trying to decide whether I want to learn to play this 6-string fretless, or sell it [16:43] (got it cheap, fixed it up some) [16:43] heh, depends what style you're after [16:43] Urchlay, gotta love that. "no, sing it in @#$ E! 8-) " [16:43] I'm after the style where my fingers can reach all the strings, not so sure I can do that on this thing :) [16:44] i am the leader of the worship team at the chapel here and due to my music theory training and such, i set up all songs so that the highest note is a D above middle C (for congregational singing), but my range extends to a G above middle C [16:44] hiptobecubic: catch [16:44] however, one of our singers is a key changing freak [16:45] dtanner, seems to be doing alright [16:45] I've seen Steve Bailey master those 6 strings, he has really small hands [16:45] i'm going to have to go over some things and educate her so that she knows what range she actually has (since she's been singing wrong so long that her falsetto has blended with her main voice to the point where she thinks her range has no limits) [16:45] TwinReverb: vocal choir with organist? or lots of instruments? [16:45] hiptobecubic: here is another one on the way .. gimme a sec [16:45] Urchlay, standard contemporary worship team. i sing and play lead electric guitar, we have an acoustic guitar player, an electric bassist, drummer, and a pianist/keyboardist [16:46] hiptobecubic: catch again [16:46] so, instrumentation like a rock band :) [16:46] basically [16:46] churches that pay for it can get Song Select, a nifty linux/firefox-friendly website that allows you (probably flash or java or both) to change keys on the fly [16:46] fuzzbawl (n=fuzzbawl@216.23.240.13) left irc: "Leaving" [16:47] and it has both chord sheets, lead sheets, and choral sheets for most songs, plus lyrics, demos, etc [16:47] hrrr, like chordie.com, except actually works correctly? [16:47] mohaa (i=1000@92.49.78.108) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:47] http://www.puresimplicity.net/~twinreverb/music/clips.html [16:47] there are some clips i took of my rig recently, doing an A/B comparison [16:47] Urchlay: have you seen that video of the dude playing "flight of the bumblebee" on a bass? [16:48] last time I was in a church that had a band, it was a jazz trio (Hammond organ, drummer, sax). Amazing stuff. [16:48] dtanner: yeah [16:49] pretty damn good [16:49] he misses and slops a few licks but overall it is amzingly fast for a bass [16:49] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:50] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:51] Urchlay: check nuno out at a washburn guitar clinic -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS9q4vrN_04 [16:52] TwinReverb: it might be my bias showing, but I think the fender strat sounds better :) [16:52] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [16:53] dtanner: I've heard this version before (nuno = used to play with Extreme, right?) [16:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vAalqCpqCA&NR=1 < on a 7 string bass [16:53] Urchlay: yup [16:53] Urchlay, the one of The Potter's Hand (Schecter versus Strat) my playing is a bit better [16:53] nuno is pretty damn good , one of my favorite guitarists. [16:54] I did a better job swinging the line [16:54] TwinReverb: that's the one I was listening to actually [16:54] it's hard to top a strat + compressor + tube amp for beautiful jazzy tone on stuff like that anyways [16:55] good night channel :) [16:55] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:56] Does the new xorg+xfce ignore your xorg.conf keyboard settings? [16:56] It seems to be ignoring mine [16:57] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: "leaving" [16:57] did you set up your keyboard in Xfce's keyboard settings thingy? [16:57] judequinn (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:57] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [16:58] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [16:58] TwinReverb, no. I set it up in xorg.conf. 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[17:04] but i dont see why it would affect the host os [17:05] skibur (n=skibur@ppp-69-153-67-180.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:05] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.102.120) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:06] darn, thought I had this e-mail setup done, guess not. :P /me reads some more. [17:06] so, while im waiting for windows to install 9gasp10 how is everyone doing/ [17:06] firebird619: what did you do !? [17:06] break it?! [17:06] argh.. freakin' noobs! :) [17:06] hahaha [17:06] wow, never relized hard hard it is to not have a shift key [17:06] Dominian: I'm trying to get opera to access dovecot now to get my mail. [17:07] Dominian: dovecot is running, I know the port it's using for imap, etc. [17:07] i want to try opera, but ive heard both really bad and really good reviews about it [17:07] stealth-: just try it, if ya don't like it, move on to something else. I've used it for years, since before they removed the ads from it. [17:07] jamess__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:07] firebird619: You're trying to send email or just "read" it? [17:08] firebird619: yeah, im gonna try it, just not right now cause it takes too long with just 500mb of ram avaliable to me right now [17:08] Dominian: just access my mail that's in ~/Maildir, which dovecot is pointed to, via imap with opera. [17:08] firebird619: and port 143 is being used? [17:08] yes [17:08] hrm.. check logs to see why auth is failing [17:08] do slackware purists use the terminal for everything? [17:08] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [17:08] dustybin: its possible, but i dont [17:08] dustybin: I do [17:08] ok [17:09] I do run KDE, but I do most of everything from the command line [17:09] Dominian: I checked the dovecot log, no info, which others would I check. Also, to confirm, I'd use my user and pass for authentication correct? [17:09] dustybin: i guess its a matter of the individual person, i've grown up in a world with gui's, so [17:09] redhat, debian and slackare are linux [17:09] firebird619: you can check /var/log/maillog [17:09] firebird619: yes you would use your username and password [17:09] dustybin: actually Linux is the kernel [17:09] Dominian: ok, so I used the right user and pass, I'll check that maillog. [17:10] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:10] does slackware keep _everything_ vanilla ? [17:10] redhat, debian, and slackware are all distributions that use the LInux kernel [17:10] dustybin: In what way? [17:10] dustybin: i dont know what vanilla means ;9 [17:10] debian seems to patch things up, and mess around with stuff too much [17:10] dustybin: most of the time, you won't see crap patches added outside of the upstream source.. so if you mean "Does Slackware utilize upstream release source?" Yes. [17:10] oh, that should have been a sad face [17:10] ok [17:10] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:11] ugh, why does windows take sooooooooooo long to install/1/1/1 [17:11] Slackware doesn't meddle with patching everything.. mainly because a) its not the maintainers job to do that and b) if maintainer's patched everything upstream would never fix their crap [17:11] i might do a LFS install before i test out slackware [17:11] Dominian: This is the last few things in maillog: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/14715 [17:12] dustybin, got 3 months time? [17:12] yes [17:12] this is for pure education [17:12] whats lfs/ [17:12] then have fun ^-^ [17:12] ouch [17:12] You've got some issues with postfix it appears [17:12] Dominian: indeed. :( [17:12] stealth-, linux from scratch [17:12] firebird619: You have an issue with your auth lookup in dovecot too [17:12] its using passdb driver 'pam' [17:12] So something is still broken [17:12] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.90.90.50) left irc: Success [17:12] slackware is meant to be pretty dam stable, i wouldnt use it in the commercial world, but for a stable home server, it sounds ace [17:12] Where is that set, I never set pam anywhere. [17:12] slackytude2: oh yeah, that sounded like fun, but i didnt end up doing it [17:13] slackytude2: sounded too time consuming [17:13] dustybin: uhhh I know plenty of places that use Slackware in a commercial environment [17:13] dustybin, many do [17:13] stealth-, same here [17:13] Dominian: commercial places require insurance and support [17:13] dustybin: and? [17:13] nheco (n=nheco@201-89-145-40.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:13] slackware has no support [17:13] there are enterprise support options out there from 3rd party companies for Slackware. [17:13] dustybin: wrong [17:13] ohh [17:13] Dominian: Also, what roll is postfix taking here? Do I need postfix in this situation? [17:13] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.88.108) left irc: "Leaving." [17:14] dustybin you are so last century, the 1990s are over! [17:14] :P [17:14] firebird619: no.. imap is just "checking" email.. doesn't realize integrate with postfix in this situation. [17:14] s/realize/really [17:14] Lord Linus Torvalds says he uses Fedora, but deep down i believe his favourite distro is slack [17:14] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.198) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:14] so could I adjust dovecot.conf to not use postfix? [17:15] or would that bork it more? [17:15] linux torvalds is still alive/ [17:15] = question mark [17:15] can slack run on a non-linux kernel? [17:15] stealth-: yes [17:15] s/linux/linus/ [17:15] firebird619: wow. it would be cool to talk to him1 [17:15] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:15] 1 = exclamation mark [17:15] dustybin : no [17:15] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:16] debian has a FreeBSD kernel running the gnu toolchain, along with a few other ports [17:16] dustybin : hence slackware _linux_ distribution [17:16] ok [17:16] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [17:16] dustybin, http://www.credativ.co.uk/services/support/projects/linux-distributions/slackware/ [17:16] blimmin 'eck [17:16] debian has a what? [17:16] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:17] with some work i bet a group of developers can port slack to run with other non linux kernels [17:17] why? [17:17] eh, a lot of work [17:18] just to see if it can be done [17:18] unless the kernel aims to be compliant [17:18] What would be the point other than to say "Hey look what I did?" Which in response most would be like: "So?" [17:18] slackytude2, "A UNIX®-like advanced Linux operating system originally developed by Linus Torvalds in 1991." ? [17:18] http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.os.minix/browse_thread/thread/76536d1fb451ac60/b813d52cbc5a044b?pli=1 [17:19] at that point it wouldn't be slackware, it would be a port. which doesn't change the answer to the original question: can slack run on a non-linux kernel [17:19] I updated my current slackware64 today and now my X crash qhen I hold backspace button or a arrow button... someone have the same problem? [17:19] http://www.debian.org/ports/ if it can be done to debian it can be done to any distro [17:19] r_linux: dunno.. I did my upgrade remotely and rebooted my machine from work to get the new kernel loaded.. Haven't booted into X yet :) [17:20] what do you think the chance is the lady at my nearest seven 11 will take us money in exchange for a slush/ [17:20] = qusetion mark [17:20] s/qusetion/question [17:21] Action: slackytude2 = sleep [17:21] bye [17:21] see ya later, slackers [17:21] night slackytude2 [17:22] stealth-: is your shift key broken? [17:22] Action: slackytude2 o/ [17:22] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A762D7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "no rest for the tired" [17:22] Pig_Pen: yes, both of them .insert sad face. [17:22] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [17:23] Pig_Pen: i think vm player is messing with my host system's keyboard [17:23] ???????????? have a few question marks on me [17:23] can i borrow a few .question mark. [17:23] wait, i bet i got an on screen keyboard [17:24] you can have them free, i release them under the GNU/GPL v3 [17:24] cool .insert excalmation mark. [17:24] Action: stealth- goes to download question marks [17:24] just copy those and since it is on your clipboard you can paste whenever needed [17:24] ? [17:25] yay~ [17:25] oh, thats probably a good idea [17:25] lol [17:25] here is a few !!!!!!!!!!! [17:25] got any exclamation marks? [17:25] nice! [17:25] want some of these? :"!@#$%^&*()_+ [17:26] heh, thanks [17:26] and the famous ~ [17:26] well, disabled keyboard repeat and X dont crash anymore lol [17:27] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [17:27] yay! windows *finally* installed. that was slow as hell [17:27] and last but not least how about a pipe | [17:27] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-80-49-150.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:27] vbox? [17:27] vmplayer, i have no reason for windows but gaming, and vbox doesnt support 3d acceleration [17:28] uh ha [17:29] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "damn keyboard repeat!" [17:29] what other OS's do you people use apart from slack? [17:29] < stealth-> yay! windows *finally* installed. that was slow as hell [17:29] NetBSD/FreeBSD/openSUSE/a bunch of others hehe [17:29] dustybin: "other"? [17:29] blimin hek [17:29] i have an old laptop with a stolen copy of win2k on it [17:29] LOL [17:30] the only windows i will use must be illegal [17:30] haha same here [17:30] there is no way i would support microsoft, except for the 360 [17:30] you walked into a store and stole the disks? [17:30] I use windows daily [17:30] but .. that's because I like fresh air so I open them. [17:30] mine was bought by my mom about 7 or 8 years ago and has been installed on dozens of old PCs since then [17:30] because stealing implies something was taken and left something missing. Pirating makes a copy. [17:31] i am surprized the CDrom still works as scratched as it is [17:31] or you could say its just illegal [17:31] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-80-49-150.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:31] haha, i turn to my vmplayer and its showing 'thank you for purchasing windows xp' [17:31] the purchase was legit at Staples office store, but the EULA has been raped [17:32] bizarre foods [17:32] that is a cool show, Andrew Zimmer [17:32] Zimmern [17:32] yeah [17:33] that and anthony bourdain always save me when im bored [17:33] i like his show too [17:33] my favorite is when he tours the southern US and mexico [17:33] well, time for video games! [17:33] heh [17:34] Pig_Pen, you're so weird [17:34] you dont care about anywhere else eh [17:34] i like alaska [17:34] LOL [17:34] i meant you're just into american crap [17:35] if i could get a time machine i would go back to about the 1820's and live in the rocky mountains hunting & trapping for a living, leave modern civilization behind [17:35] wow [17:35] thats it? you have no imagination [17:35] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:35] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [17:35] so why do you hang around on IRC so much then? [17:36] i'd go and see mozart play. [17:36] If it's so horrible one would think you'd just not use it if you don't need to. [17:36] huh [17:36] lol [17:36] the things of modern civilization [17:36] antiwire: remember you told me about those toothache neck pains [17:36] i still to have one [17:36] and it doesnt go away [17:36] :| [17:37] heh [17:37] if you could go back in time [17:37] i have one now* [17:37] lol [17:37] try to live like that today and some farmer or rancher would get you for trespassing, there are no free lands anymore [17:37] you'd want to see dinosaurs, mozart, beethoven and rome [17:37] waaaa [17:37] if i had a time machine i would go back in time and kill hitler, take his place, do things the right way and take over the world as a compasionite dictator. [17:37] Pig_Pen: Not if you own the land. [17:37] lol stealth- [17:37] lw0x15: did you get them removed? [17:37] i'd help! [17:38] i own two & a half acres :P [17:38] stealth-: http://www.abyssandapex.com/200710-wikihistory.html [17:38] nice! ill pm you when i get one :p [17:38] jeev to the post above [17:38] 2.5ac is nothing in the context of what you're talking about though [17:38] ... [17:39] lol [17:39] you can get a whole section of Canadian prairie for very decent prices [17:39] that's 640ac [17:39] spiffytech: lol! that is awesome! what is that/ [17:39] = question mark [17:39] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [17:40] hello! [17:40] Just another imaginary usenet thread [17:40] Anyone who's having issues with the intel graphics drivers in -current, have a look: http://slackware.com/~rworkman/xorg-testing/ [17:40] I'm having issues with radeon driver on -current :p [17:41] That should be working fine. [17:41] Dominian: In looking at the log more, those postfix, etc. errors don't correspond with the time now that I'm working on this, so there must be something different going on. [17:41] rworkman: sometimes it just hangs but it may not be the radeon at all... not big deal [17:41] Hi rworkman [17:41] P4C0: X server hangs? [17:41] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [17:41] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:42] firebird619: ola [17:42] rworkman: everything, I can't move the mouse, can't activate the caps locks, hard reboot [17:42] ssh in? [17:43] rworkman: hmm haven't tried that, will do it next time... but it's not frequent... has only happened me twice since last upgrade [17:43] rworkman, I'm not running current, but I got a crap ton of random X crashes with 12.1 (12.0 was fine with my intel chipset/integrated graphics). The crashing stopped with 12.2. I hope it's not a repeating cycle! [17:43] (actually since last kernel upgrade) [17:43] P4C0: yeah, definitely try that [17:43] nathanbw: I'm afraid it might be :/ [17:43] :-( Noooo! I've been waiting so patiently for KDE4 ! haha [17:44] Heh, glad I didn't try grub when I was struggling with the lilo issue [17:44] Oops, wrong place [17:44] nathanbw: how much ram do you have? [17:44] Back when I was having the random crashes (and for a while after the subsequent upgrade to 12.2 when the crashes stopped) I had 1 Gb [17:44] Arauto (n=leandro@201.17.182.36) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:45] I recently upgraded to 2.5 Gb of RAM with no adverse side effects [17:45] I have 1 gb or ram and 200mb haven't been a problem until I upgraded to kde 4... now I need to expand my swap :p is there a nice and safe way to do that? [17:45] s/200mb/200mb of swap/ [17:45] Make a swap file [17:46] rworkman: I'll try that ;) thanks [17:46] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:47] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/14716 [17:47] swap file info ^ [17:48] antiwire: seems to be from the same site that I'm reading right now: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/custom-guide/s1-swap-adding.html thanks! [17:48] notice my header [17:48] line 1 [17:49] yup [17:49] Nick change: crashx1 -> crashx- [17:50] Whatsyourname (n=srpggaer@61.51.159.250) left irc: [17:50] I use a swap file inside of my luks / so I don't need to mess around with a whole partition for swap and luks on that partition as well. [17:50] this way, the swap is already stuck in the encrypted / [17:51] of my/on my [17:51] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:51] :) [17:52] this is hilarious http://www.makeuseof.com/tech-fun/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/siteimagesfun.png [17:52] work safe [17:52] Dominian will like that one [17:53] hahahahaha [17:53] wtf!! [17:53] I'm an honest business man. :P [17:53] the hotlinker threatens to sue the server admin of the server he was hotlinking to. [17:54] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:54] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Gameover" [17:54] How do you even go about explaining to them that they are the one in the wrong? [17:54] yeah, I'm sure that would go really well. :P [17:54] why did you move the images?? you should had done what Dominian did... actually if I were you i will reply to him saying that I'm sorry and I'm going to replace them... I do that... and after a week or so... bam! let's the lemon party begins! [17:55] The images I'm sure were removed to begin with because this idot was hotlinking them. :P [17:55] lol, Please contact me to resolve this matter. :P [17:56] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: ""Closing time"" [17:56] He should consider himself lucky that they only removed them and didn't do what Dominian did. [17:56] no doubt [17:56] antiwire: you're still on time... do it do it do it! [17:57] I'll pay to hear the conversation with his/her lawyer :p hehe [17:58] I wonder what he'd tell the lawyer. "Um, I was hotlinking some images from someone else and now they removed them. What can I do legal wise?" :P [17:58] http://www.shapelessmass.com/index.html/?p=578 [17:58] whole stroy [17:58] story [17:58] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [17:59] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [18:01] firebird619: indeed (re what Dominian did): "How's your business now, buddy?" ;-) [18:01] :D [18:01] lol [18:02] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:04] Current: Partly Cloudy Temp: 95.2°F/35°C [18:04] jamess__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:05] nice and hot [18:05] VampirePenguin: you there? [18:05] hey ananke [18:05] antiwire, [18:05] lol [18:05] VampirePenguin: Are you the same VampirePenguin on the CL linux forum? [18:05] yep [18:05] whoa [18:05] smaLL WORLD [18:09] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [18:10] jamess__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:13] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:13] jamess__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:14] King_of_Metal (n=thiago@vpn-0112.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE) joined ##slackware. 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[18:20] ppl i'm trying to run X [18:20] cmk_zzz: it's a dell latitude d810 laptop [18:20] but i get [18:20] could not open default font fixed [18:20] i'm missing some package [18:20] but dont know what [18:20] can someone help ? [18:20] livebrain: find all the packages with "font" in the name, install them? [18:21] done that [18:21] jamess__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:21] livebrain: How have you configured your xorg.conf? [18:21] havent done that yet [18:22] possibly: su -c "/usr/bin/fc-cache -f" [18:22] xset fp rehash [18:22] I have had similar problems when I have copied xorg.conf's from other distributions and the FontPath's where wrong [18:23] (wait, the 2nd line is frivolous, if X isn't already running) [18:23] were wrong even [18:24] its some package [18:24] thats missing [18:24] dusty_ (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:25] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:26] fontconfig freetype? [18:26] they have semi-128-bit systems now. [18:27] dchmelik: yes, I have one. [18:27] dang! just when software was catching up to 64 bit systems [18:27] I have a true 64bit system but I don't know wtf to do with it [18:27] run BOINC [18:27] it's a SPARC [18:27] Send it over antiwire! [18:27] hehe [18:28] I put FSBD on it for now [18:28] and all I do is sit there and stare at it [18:28] does splack come in 64-bit? [18:28] (if not, you could port it yourself. Lot of work, though) [18:29] splack was at 12.1 last I checked [18:29] Debian ran ok on it but FreeBSD just feels better [18:29] it still might have a 64-bit kernel, 12.1 or not [18:29] as soon as opensolaris will optical boot on SPARC I'll give that a shot [18:29] anyone use Slackintosh? [18:31] KillerV (i=1000@189037003055.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:31] anyone know where to find keyboard stickers [18:32] The-Croupier: you mean to change the keyboard layout? [18:32] instead of letters...have nice stickers..or you print anything.. [18:32] I need a sticker for the 'any' key. [18:32] P4C0: no... leave the layout as it is... just instead of showing a..have some design on the physical keyboard [18:33] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-128-65.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [18:33] The-Croupier: there should be... but so far I have only seen premade stickers... not like the ones you can print on them [18:33] premade ones? where to find them? 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[18:44] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) left irc: "out" [18:44] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:46] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [18:46] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:46] hello [18:46] hey edman007 [18:46] hey [18:47] how's it going? [18:47] i got dropped off at the airport crazy early, lol [18:47] back from FL then? [18:47] almost 2 hours of waiting, assuming it leaves ontime... [18:47] firebird619, waiting at the airport for it to leave [18:47] ah, cool. [18:48] and its raining crazy heavy, so nothing is leaving right now [18:48] hope you have something to pass the time with. :P [18:48] i got irc [18:48] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:48] true [18:48] thats why i'm here [18:48] lol [18:48] It's hot and humid here today. There's a good chance of strong T-storms later. [18:48] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.34.90) joined ##slackware. [18:49] firebird619: you got bitlbee sorted? [18:49] and right now the boston flight is blocking the terminal, stupid thing is delayed by two hours and all the boston people are taking the seats with power [18:49] firebird619, lightning every 30 seconds or so, had hail on the way here [18:49] wow [18:49] ice hitting the ground, it was ~90'F this morning [18:50] but for this area, its still just a scattered storm, 30% chance of rain [18:50] I love t-storms, I just don't like having to shut the pc down when the storms are around. I prefer to be cautious that way, I've had lightning strike and wipe a hdd in the past. :P [18:50] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:50] 60% chance of storms here. [18:50] i'm on battery right now :) [18:51] If I had a laptop, I would be too. :P [18:51] edman007: I always bring a power strip with me because I gives me a reason to ask the hottest girl with a laptop, who is using a power jack, if I can share the power with her. [18:51] firebird619, over here we had 30% chance of rain for the last month, and its expected to stay like that for a month or so [18:51] antiwire: lol, good idea. :) [18:51] antiwire, good idea, only i don't see any hot girls using a power strip [18:52] hehe [18:52] "hey baby, wanna see my strip?" [18:52] never say that btw [18:52] haha [18:52] everyone here is all sad that their flight is coming up on 4 hours late [18:52] you've tried that? [18:52] antiwire, hahahhahaha [18:53] "oh, your ground pin is so... big" [18:53] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.153.86) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:53] lmao [18:53] lol [18:53] haha [18:53] what have I walked into the middle of here? [18:54] Urchlay: some things are better left unknown. :P [18:54] Urchlay, just comparing our strips [18:54] s/ps/pers/ ? [18:54] Urchlay, if you got some that you can sen... [18:54] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "change of venue" [18:54] d [18:55] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:55] you pang? [18:56] huh? [18:56] yea, testing the feasablty of ut2k4 on this network [18:56] 1.8s, so i don't hink i can game with it [18:56] ouch [18:56] what is it, satellite? [18:56] yea, even google is 200-400ms [18:56] :( [18:57] this Xorg modules things really suck... [18:57] Urchlay, airport [18:57] lolwut: past tense of "ping"... I ping, he pang, you have pung [18:57] Action: edman007 pongs Urchlay [18:57] now i have to install everything under xap or x or wtv just to get X working [18:57] irc pong? | . | [18:57] Urchlay, lol [18:57] | . | [18:58] | . | [18:58] that fixed font error really pisses me off... [18:58] eh, you get the idea [18:58] lol [18:58] livebrain: what is "wtv"? [18:59] wtv = whatever [18:59] firebird619: the best thing for your cyber dating addiction is to come out with it. Will the noobfarm post help with that? :P [18:59] stands for "what the vuck" maybe? [18:59] yeah, when you have a cold [18:59] chopp: hahahahahaha [18:59] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:59] :) [18:59] one package thats missing... and now i cant get X to run [19:00] chopp: I about got this whole email setup done, but I'm having auth issues. [19:00] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:00] auth issues, how come? [19:01] chopp: not sure. It's with dovecot and opera trying to connect to it. [19:03] firebird619: let me glance at my dovecot configs, and refresh my memory. [19:03] jamess__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:03] k [19:04] <[OpenSys]> anyone knows who i make a stdout bytes counter? like: echo testing| stdout_cont [19:04] <[OpenSys]> result: 3bytes [19:04] <[OpenSys]> ? [19:04] [OpenSys], wc [19:04] <[OpenSys]> is not words [19:05] `wc -m` should do it on my system [19:05] <[OpenSys]> -c, --bytes print the byte counts [19:05] but this is not slack [19:05] <[OpenSys]> whell i miss this [19:05] <[OpenSys]> edman007, yes i know [19:05] yea, ;) [19:05] <[OpenSys]> :) [19:05] King_of_Metal (n=thiago@vpn-0112.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE) left irc: Client Quit [19:05] well i need stuff to do [19:06] [OpenSys]: "echo testing" outputs more than 3 bytes :) [19:06] and it sounds like 4 hours of flights will try to leave while i'm waiting [19:06] <[OpenSys]> Urchlay, correct [19:07] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.105.244) joined ##slackware. [19:07] <[OpenSys]> is 8 [19:07] edman007: maybe you can teach your computer to play solitaire for you? [19:07] and i need to make this battery last [19:07] does it work over irc? [19:07] [OpenSys]: right. "wc -c" will give you 8... I don't know any command that would give you 3 bytes as a result :) [19:07] <[OpenSys]> Urchlay, yes is a example [19:07] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [19:08] <[OpenSys]> :) [19:08] <[OpenSys]> but now i know thats is 8 [19:08] edman007: eh, I meant, write a little program that does a screen capture of wine running sol.exe, figures out what the cards are, and plays the game with simulated mouse clicks/motions :) [19:08] i need battery conserving activities [19:08] that ought to keep you occupied for 4 hours [19:09] airport is busy with all the delayed flights and i can't get power [19:09] edman007: drop out of X and play nethack. [19:09] =P [19:09] eh, find a printer, download a book, print it out, turn the laptop off and read for 4 hours? [19:09] jamess__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:09] Urchlay, i don't see printers [19:10] though I guess if you could find a printer to use, you could use its power outlet to charge your battery... [19:10] Nick change: MrJacks0n -> MrJackson [19:11] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.34.90) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:11] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.ftslgt stop" [19:13] well, reading a book on screen is probably less taxing than almost anything else you could do [19:16] jamess__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:16] Urchlay, paper just feels too laggy [19:17] I like real books on real paper [19:18] edman007: check the parking lot for power :P [19:18] I suppose if you want to read a book, but simulate the look/feel of a monitor, you could hold a flashlight behind each page as you read it [19:18] chopp, the power in the parking lot is the type that intermantly lights things on fire wile you are stuck in heavy rain and bleeding from the hail [19:18] s/wile/while/ [19:19] omg [19:19] wimp [19:19] chopp, no way! [19:19] chopp, i don't have the proper power conditioning devices [19:20] edman007: should've come prepared. :P [19:20] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:20] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [19:20] i rain and hail are fine, but i need to get it into my battery without making it smoked [19:20] well hell of a way to end that vacation :P [19:20] lol [19:21] Blaguvest (n=Blaguves@c-2da372d5.036-245-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Leaving" [19:21] apperently the ground crew are not allowed outside until 810, and my flight is for 838 [19:21] so i bet i'll be delayed [19:22] chopp, and i blame you [19:22] you are scaring the planes away [19:22] why not, everyone else does [19:22] lol [19:22] boohoo [19:23] jamess__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:23] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:23] i would not fly in a commercial airline for all the tea in china, customers are basically treated like cattle [19:24] nullify (i=n@68-114-223-90.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:24] nullify_ (i=n@68-114-223-90.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:24] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [19:25] How would you get across the country, or the ocean, then? [19:25] edman007: had you heard about the flight today flying to Newark and the pilot passed away? The co-pilot and relief pilot had to take over. What a tragic thing to happen. [19:25] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] on his private jet, of course!! [19:25] lol [19:25] i would drive across the country if needed, but across the ocean = wont go [19:26] yep, not having to take a commercial plane is a viable choice for everybody :) [19:26] .... [19:26] firebird619: did the dovecot fix work? [19:26] chopp: just trying now. [19:26] NukeDukem: Well, you only need to fly with an Asian (South East Asia that is) airline and you are treated fine [19:27] as soon as you set your foot on a European or American jet, its only about the airlines profit [19:28] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:28] chopp: nope [19:28] firebird619: what kind of error are you getting? [19:29] installed everything under x/ [19:29] still it complains [19:29] with the fixed font [19:29] what i'am missing ? [19:30] can anyone help ? [19:30] what's the error? [19:31] could not open default font fixed [19:31] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:31] when i type startx [19:32] livebrain : show us the exact error. and what window manager you're using? [19:32] fatal server error: [19:32] could not open default font fixed [19:32] waiting for X server to begin accepting connections [19:33] giving up [19:33] xinit: connection reset by peer (errno 104): unable to connect to X server [19:33] xinit : no such process (errno 3) server error [19:34] thats a package missing [19:34] but i dont know which one [19:34] skibur (n=skibur@ppp-69-153-67-180.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:34] livebrain: is it a full install of slackware [19:34] no [19:35] what fonts did you install [19:35] all [19:35] all with the *font* in the name [19:35] livebrain : ls -la /usr/share/fonts/misc/fonts.* [19:36] fonts.alias [19:36] fonts.dir [19:36] fonts.scale [19:36] livebrain : -la [19:37] its in the other pc [19:37] but what do you want to know ? [19:37] sizes, dates, etc [19:37] use pastebin.com [19:37] 1 sec [19:37] livebrain (n=200mg@87.196.130.241) left irc: "leaving" [19:37] livebrain (n=root@87.196.130.241) joined ##slackware. [19:40] how can i try to debug [19:40] jamess__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:40] ? [19:41] step by step to see where is the problem [19:42] livebrain: this may fix it [19:42] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/could-not-open-default-font-fixed-error-with-slackware-12.0-675883/ [19:43] goodnight guys [19:43] night The-Croupier [19:43] Is there any way to increase my mkisofs large file support? Im trying to burn a 5ish gig .iso and it says files bigger then 2gb cannot be handled [19:43] firebird619: see you in the morning [19:44] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [19:45] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:46] jamess__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. 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[20:37] eh, how can it tell whether the client's being run as root or not? unless you also run identd, and it uses that (which would be silly) [20:37] whats a good live cd I should recommend to someone who just needs to use the grub command and move a few files around? [20:37] "telnet localhost imap" should do the same thing whether you're root or not when you type the command [20:37] Urchlay: it doesn't though, as normal user, it just sits at Trying [20:38] stealth-: knoppix? [20:38] cmk_zzz: thanks [20:38] cmk_zzz: I was thinking that, but I wasnt sure if that was a live cd or not [20:38] bee-zarre. I'd drag out tcpdump or something, see what else is going on [20:38] stealth-: I think that is the primary purpose of knoppix. But my memory seems all muddles up nowadays [20:39] stealth-: DSL (damn small linux) ought to do you [20:39] damnsmall is a stripped-down knoppix, doesn't fill anywhere near the whole CD [20:39] In some countries, YOU do DSL. :P [20:40] is that guy's name really "yakov smirnoff" or is it a stage name? [20:40] lol, I'm not sure. [20:41] wpedia says his first name really is Yakov, the last name is fake [20:41] Ah [20:41] well, smirnoff is quite a common name. I guess they like name there kids after there favourite drink. [20:41] man [20:41] me fail english? That's unpossible! [20:42] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:43] eh, I bet smirnoff is like budweiser in russia... cheap, served everywhere, but considered kida crappy [20:43] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.52.209.210) left irc: "leaving" [20:43] are you talking about the vodka or about this yakov guy? [20:43] heh [20:43] actually the vodka [20:44] ;) it is not too bad [20:44] at least not the exported one [20:44] would it be nessesary to boot into a live cd to install grub on a usb stick? [20:44] and delete the local /boot files? [20:44] Decoy- (n=Decoy@rrcs-70-63-108-144.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:44] used to drink cheezy $5/fifth vodka, it also made OK paint thinner [20:45] dusty_ (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:45] by comparison, smirnoff would be the nectar of the gods [20:45] multi-purpose! good stuff [20:45] if it runs your car, even better! [20:46] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176071254.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [20:46] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [20:48] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@c-98-230-11-174.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:49] hi everybody ! [20:49] hi [20:49] dusty_ (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:50] i would like to know what' s wrong with this script, thanks in adavance ! [20:50] http://pastebin.fr/4836 [20:50] i get this error [20:50] ./ducon.sh: line 8: syntax error near unexpected token `done' [20:50] ./ducon.sh: line 8: ` /tmp/test_dir/ ; done' [20:51] remove the done and replace it with a fi [20:52] actually add a fi before the done [20:52] ok, i got it , thanks for all ! [20:52] i does work nice :-) [20:52] it* [20:53] Urchlay: try Stolichnaya Gold-Black Label. the best vodka. [20:54] 30 bucks a fifth but worth all of it [20:54] sooo smooth [20:56] so out of curiosity, what do people think the next major kernel change (2.x) is going to incorporate? [20:56] out of body experiences are expected [20:56] with each major kernel version change [20:56] lol [20:57] in between major releases only hallucinations are to be anticipated [20:58] yeah, stoli is gooood stuff [20:58] Urchlay: have you tried the gold(black label) stoli? [20:58] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:58] if not, you are missing out. [20:58] don't think I've ever had it [20:58] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:59] what do you think of Grey Goose vodka? [20:59] can't find it at every liquor store though. only some of them carry it [20:59] i like grey goose ok . pretty smooth [20:59] i like it better than smirnoff [21:00] oddly, last time I went to party with a bunch of east europeans, they were drinking absolut [21:00] i dont like absolut that much [21:00] eh, and johnny walker [21:00] i haven't drank ( except for holidays ) in a few years though [21:01] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:01] I pretty much only drink enough to get a buzz, not actually get drunk much [21:01] and probably no more than once a month, at that [21:01] i wasn't an alcholholic or anything, i just like thc much more than liquor [21:02] i drink some red wine once or twice a month , thats about it anymore [21:02] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176071254.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [21:04] hey antiwire did i say something funny on cl.... *grinz* [21:04] all THC does for me is make me paranoid, and too stupid to know my paranoid ideas have no basis in reality [21:04] VampirePenguin: I didn't even read any posts. I just saw your name tag ;) [21:04] Nick change: pragma_ -> litb [21:04] hehe, yeah it does that to some ppl [21:04] Nick change: litb -> pragma_ [21:04] i changed my drinking habits. Before I only drank on weekends, but quite a lot. Now I drink too often, but not that much every time [21:05] cmk_zzz: prolly easy on your system that way [21:05] heheh [21:05] still thinks it is damaging my brain. Especially ythe language system [21:05] I'll have usually at least one beer a night [21:05] dtanner: Well I certainly hope so, but it feels a bit 'alcoholic' to drink that often [21:06] screw that [21:06] well, i do have an occasional pale ale. there is one particular beer that i like a lot called "Widmer". i have one of those every now and then [21:06] it's not alcoholic [21:06] eh, I've known real alcoholics. Doesn't look like fun... [21:06] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:06] cmk_zzz: do you *have* to drink? if you don't if your sole purpose getting it? [21:07] if your/is your [21:07] delirium tremens suck [21:07] the girl who always says "my kidneys hurt, I better have a drink to kill the pain" [21:07] sure doesn't. they always stand out in a bar, you can tell by looking at them and they mannerisms [21:07] yeah well that's alchy, Urchlay [21:07] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] and the guy who blacks out and gets in fights, and needs bailing out of jail semi-regularly [21:08] I've blacked out exactly once, combination of alcohol, LSD, and weed, will never do that again [21:08] drinking every night doesn't mean your some alcoholic [21:08] your/you're [21:09] being unable to stop when you want to, makes you an alcoholic [21:09] (by that measure I'm addicted to cigarettes and coffee) [21:09] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.58.99) joined ##slackware. [21:09] i blacked out exactly once too. it was 100 F outside and we were outside the bar having some weed , i had been drinking vodka and had some xanex. that was 7 or 8 years ago. i think the excessive heat put me over the edge. i started sweating hard and got dizzy . and BAM hit the ground. [21:10] dtanner: blacked out, or just passed out? [21:10] I'm fairly fortunate to not have that type of personality. [21:10] by blackout I mean, you're wide awake, walking, talking, doing stuff, with absolutely no memory of it later [21:10] Urchlay: i remember everything going black and i started spinning. i remember going in and out and then hitting the ground. i woke and adn stood up and everything went black again. [21:10] Don't get me wrong, drinking and smoking are fun but I do have the ability to just pass on it if I want to. [21:11] (btw, I'm at a bar using their wifi as i type..drinking some microbrewed IPA) [21:11] passed out then [21:11] antiwire: nice [21:11] so put that in your book. [21:11] yeah , i can pass easily on any of it. i was having too much fun that night [21:11] lol [21:11] dogsoul (i=doggy@dogsoul.org) left ##slackware. [21:12] now, the guy I knew who used to drink until he had to puke... then he'd go and puke, come back & drink some more... *that* is probably alcoholism at work [21:12] dtanner: everyone has those nights [21:12] he'd just go in the bathroom like he was going to take a leak or something, didn't bother him at all [21:12] Urchlay: yeah, usually you puke and pass the hell out, don't go back for round two [21:12] Urchlay: yeah , that is a problem drinker. and people who spend entire paychecks and can't pay rent and shit. those are problem drinkers. [21:13] on the rare occasions when I drink enough to have to puke, I'm done for the night and probably for the next 2 weeks even [21:13] Urchlay: same here [21:13] I worked with a guy that would get so drunk every night that he was still toast in the morning, he made it to work on time every day though, he might be able to walk a straight line, but he made it to work [21:13] usually it's caused by forgetting to eat first [21:13] I hardly do that to myself though. I've caused myself to throw up from drinking maybe twice [21:14] antiwire, which IPA are you drinking? [21:14] i think i was a teenager the last time i drank enough to make me puke [21:14] DeiBellum: It's a local microbrew. Custom job they created [21:14] mmmm, beer [21:14] dtanner: the last time for me was about a month ago, but it's because I was drinking beer that was 12% alcohol, chugging it down like regular beer, and on a completely empty stomach [21:14] super hoppy though...rivaling the arrogant bastard in hoppiness [21:14] antiwire, ah, i prefer microbrews to the usual water so i am always looking for new ones to try [21:15] oddly enough, i'm drinking a fairly hoppy beer now. big amber ale, by red menace [21:15] DeiBellum: yeah, they don't sell this stuff. they have 6 tanks and brew it all here, sell it all from taps on site [21:15] antiwire, nice [21:15] mmmm , i do like amber ale [21:15] never tried red menace [21:16] Yep, I usually go for an IPA or some form on red ales. Those types are my two favorite [21:16] a six pack last me a while when i do purchase beer. i only have one or two in a night and then i will not have one for weeks. [21:16] local beer store had a big sale, i stocked up on a lot of beer today. $1.95/beer [those are the bigger sizes] [21:16] speaking of forgetting to eat... BBL, dinner time [21:16] I need to be in a beer mood [21:16] I'm quite fond of rum though [21:16] ananke: like ~24oz right? [21:17] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [21:17] antiwire : i think so. i can't ever keep up with those units [21:17] straterra: but..why's the rum gone? [21:17] ;) [21:17] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [21:17] Because rum is awesome [21:18] I'm in a city that isn't allowed to sell 40's. We can get 24oz in the city limits but to get 40oz we have to go to the unincorporated county zones [21:18] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [21:18] it's sort of silly but it was form some gang injunction they passed [21:18] apparently 40's are gang paraphernalia [21:18] Here, you aren't allowed to buy alcohol on sunday [21:18] Which sucks [21:19] hmm, on the bottle it says 1 pint 6 oz. damn imperial units [21:19] haha [21:19] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:20] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [21:21] http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/932/19974 <- beeradvocate is a bit slow today [21:21] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-76-57.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [21:22] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.153.86) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [21:22] too much to drink I guess [21:23] also got a few of those big bottles of http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/199/5703 [21:23] looking forward to trying that porter [21:23] I'll often drink a porter after eating and while eating I'll have an ale [21:23] it's good dessert beer [21:24] i'm used to the baltic porters, rich and packing a big alcohol punch [21:24] for 1.95 i'd buy damn near any 1pt6oz beer, just out of curiosity alone [21:25] antiwire : that's what i was doing, buying that just to explore [21:25] http://pastebin.com/d6818a785 <- this week's sale [21:26] for each item you have the old/new price [21:26] I've had both of those Cooper's. they are decent [21:27] and the Rogue too [21:27] by the time i got there, both stone and rogue beers were gone [21:27] I like the Rogue line of brews [21:27] nheco (n=nheco@201-89-145-40.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:28] i do too, although i tend to buy cheaper beer [21:28] It's expensive out here too. I guess they have some sort of a cult following so they can charge more [21:30] couple of weeks ago i was there, and they had really good unfiltered ale [tavern ale, from aleworks williamsburg]. i got one sixpack for $4.95, and i was kicking myself for not getting more. it was really good [21:31] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/min0s) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:32] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/min0s) joined ##slackware. [21:32] The place I'm at right now is the last brew house in the county. The only other place killed their on-site brewing and that was the only place that did tavern style batches and would serve them out of hand pumped casks. [21:32] Action: nachox dislikes almost any drink with alcohol [21:33] It's a bummer that they out sourced [21:33] gar0t0 (n=casa@189-69-80-40.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:33] nachox: man, how can you each nachos without beer? [21:33] eat* [21:33] slKIvs (n=ivan@115.113.79.69.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [21:33] ... [21:33] That's like PB&J [21:33] hey someone had to say it [21:33] hey all [21:33] :) [21:35] I can at least related to what you mean. Sometimes the alcohol taste really kills something that would otherwise be a good drink. That's part of the skill involved with brewing higher ABV beers...balance the alcohol taste with the rest of the flavors [21:36] tangibledaydream (n=daydream@c-98-233-205-3.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:37] dogsoul (i=doggy@msg.me.and.you.will.ignorelist.com) joined ##slackware. [21:38] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [21:38] Green Flash brewing does a good job of that with their Imperial IPA. It's ~9.4%ABV but drinks like a normal 6% IPA. When it's on tap the bartenders don't mention the 9.4% part and people starting wondering wtf is going on after a pint [21:39] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) joined ##slackware. [21:40] dogsoul (i=doggy@msg.me.and.you.will.ignorelist.com) left ##slackware. [21:46] KillerV (i=1000@189037003055.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [21:47] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-140.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:48] <|Slacker|> hello ppl [21:49] |Slacker|: hey little bitch :) [21:49] |Slacker|: are you ok ? [21:49] :D:D [21:49] <|Slacker|> hey there gar0t0 [21:49] <|Slacker|> I'm fine and u? [21:49] fine too [21:49] watching movies here [21:51] <|Slacker|> I've just arrived from work [21:52] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:52] |Slacker|: from work as in you are now free? [21:53] <|Slacker|> yep [21:53] so you're not slacking [21:53] damn it [21:53] <|Slacker|> nope;..I've just connected why? 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[21:54] a true slacker would be at work while slacking [21:54] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-140.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "fui" [21:54] <|Slacker|> lol ok [21:54] <|Slacker|> I'll do that next time..promise :p [21:55] haha [21:56] they already spent 28.4million... how hard can it be? http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/06/18/2310211/Univ-of-Wisconsins-30-Year-Old-Payroll-System-Needs-a-40-Million-Fix [21:58] talk about fail. that article is full of fail [21:58] damn it....i swear there was a menu for setting vibrate tones for my phone [21:59] cant find it and theres nothing in the manual [21:59] ive looked everywhere too [21:59] i set the vibrate mode to a 'dot dot dot' ring, but there were a bunch of others too [21:59] i have a problem when installing ffmpeg , i got this http://pastebin.fr/4838 [22:00] knowing that i installed schroedinger-1.05 [22:04] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "goodbye" [22:07] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [22:08] i read that earlier antiwire, it stinks of corruption, they dont want it fixed, they want a money pit to throw huge sums of cash in to so they can dig it back out when no ones looking [22:09] hiptobecubic (n=john@ip70-185-109-252.ga.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:09] it's a gigantic mess of a money pit [22:09] some development company cut it fat for no real work it seems [22:09] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.153.86) joined ##slackware. [22:09] gar0t0 (n=casa@189-69-80-40.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:09] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [22:09] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "battery dying" [22:10] gar0t0_ (n=casa@189-69-80-40.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:10] Nick change: gar0t0_ -> gar0t0 [22:11] paissad: did you run pkg-config or update the path or whatever? [22:11] probably owned by UW top dawgs or their friends, its not about fixing an old payroll system, its about having a hole to throw money in [22:11] and/or are the libs or whatever in the proper plae [22:11] place [22:12] acidkill, what must i exactly do with pkg-config , [22:13] pkg-config libschroedinger ? [22:16] im not exacytly sure anymore heh [22:16] been a while since ive actually used slack [22:16] but i thin that might be the issue or at least a start [22:18] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:23] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@c-98-230-11-174.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:24] but libdirac, or libshroedinger libs are into /usr/lib ... and not in /usr/lib64 [22:24] make some links [22:25] does the lib into /usr/lib work anyhow [22:25] ,.configure --with-libraries= [22:25] weird [22:25] run ./configure --help to get the exact parameter [22:25] NukeDukem, ok, i try that, thanks [22:25] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.58.99) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:25] acidkill, thanks [22:26] if your using a slackbuild you can just add that in the ./configure section [22:27] paissad: no problem =D [22:27] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:28] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC019D1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [22:28] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.58.99) joined ##slackware. [22:30] thefixr (n=thefixr@cpe-76-170-71-14.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:32] amazon10x_ (i=captain@liberstation.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:32] slacks (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) joined ##slackware. [22:34] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:34] Nick change: slacks -> |Slacker| [22:36] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [22:39] Heh, nice. There's a storm to the North and West of where I'm at. I look to the NW and it's almost constant lightning. :) [22:40] Nick change: TClayton -> help [22:40] ##slackware: mode change '+b help!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [22:40] help kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: requested [22:40] lol [22:41] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] there's no help for you, laddie! [22:41] lol! i guess slackboy does not like that nick [22:41] back to yon salt mine with ye! [22:42] NukeDukem: nope [22:42] it's only fair to ban someone if they ask for it [22:42] is there a list of banned nicks somewhere? [22:42] it's one of the few requests that can actually be fulfilled [22:43] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [22:43] NukeDukem: There's /ban, which shows the active bans. right now it shows 5 bans. [22:44] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:44] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-22-252.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:45] Hmm, weather.com now has a feature on their radar for predicting where the storm will go, and it's free, you don't have to subscribe to use it. [22:46] does it use MS's silverlight? [22:46] no [22:46] not that I know of. I was just using it. [22:46] _alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:47] looks like a sponsor or whatever is Bing, M$'s new search thing. [22:47] and it's TruPoint mapping that does this future thing. [22:47] something weather.com has designed or something. [22:47] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-183-173.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [22:48] |alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:49] i use www.intellicast.com/ [22:49] I usually use wunderground.com, but tonight I just happened to check weather.com [22:50] Whoa, that lightning show is fairly impressive. [22:50] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:50] This storm cell is causing Tornado Warnings not far from here, but thankfully, it's moving North of where I am, but it's close enough to see it. [22:51] NukeDukem: nice, intellicast has full screen weather mapping. I hadn't checked there in a while. There's also accuweather as well. [22:52] intellicast also has temperature maps, i like that in winter, [22:52] the way it is color coded is nice [22:53] NukeDukem: cool. I've have to start maybe using intellicast again. [22:53] I like the sites that provide nice features for free instead of you having to subscribe and pay. :P [22:54] woot, my county is in a Tornado Warning. [22:54] If I disappear, well, you know what happened. [22:55] i hear ya, seems like too many websites are trying to make a quick buck, if it was me i would just provide a basic service with no cruft or kludge and offer it free with no strings attached, no ads no nags [22:55] NukeDukem: exactly. [22:55] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-76-57.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:56] dusty_ (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:56] beatzz (n=sheep@97-115-181-122.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [22:57] hola amigos [22:57] NukeDukem: I like intellicasts maps alot better. [22:57] bookmark it [22:58] penguin08 (n=jack@rrcs-208-105-103-147.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:58] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:58] already done. It's on opera's speed dial. ;) [22:58] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Connection timed out [22:58] icpu (n=root@cpe-24-29-194-107.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:59] hey guys. can someone please tell me where all the packages for slackpkg are located. I'm new to slackware [22:59] is that the built in page that has those thumbnails [22:59] yeah [23:00] <|Slacker|> icpu, /var/slackpkg/packages i guess [23:00] look at /etc/slackpkg/ inside there is a list of mirrors, uncomment one [23:00] icpu: /var/cache/packages/ [23:00] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [23:01] dusty_ (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:01] dusty (n=dusty@78-86-194-224.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:01] icpu: but, only if you have changed DELALL to "off" in /etc/slackpkg/slackpkg.conf [23:01] ah, i see, where they are stored after downloaded, yeah, it is a good idea to keep an eye on that so it does not get too full [23:01] NukeDukem: standard slackpkg config deletes the packages after install. [23:02] good idea, unless you want to store them for safe keeping somewhere else [23:02] # If DELALL is "on", all downloaded files will be removed after install. [23:02] DELALL=on [23:02] NukeDukem: that's called keeping a local mirror ;) [23:02] BP{k}: ok. I wanted to know because i'm trying to install a package, but it says it doesnt have the proper .tgz ending, so i wanted to fix that [23:02] so thats what i been doing [23:02] NukeDukem: accuweather maps suck by comparison to intellicast. :P [23:03] Probably NOT a good idea to use IRC as root. [23:03] btw thanks, lol [23:03] icpu: what package are you trying to install? [23:03] and what is the file extension? [23:03] no no! it's a great idea [23:03] who is IRCing as root? [23:03] keep doing otherwise you might put some people out of a job [23:03] who doesn't??? [23:04] BP{k}: I'm trying to install pixman [23:04] icpu: from? [23:05] NukeDukem: lol thats me. I was to lazy to switch to a regular user when logging on [23:05] icpu: let me guess. you are running slackware-12.2, you want to install pixman from slackware-current that has an txz extension? [23:05] dont make a habit out of that or your system will get p0wned [23:06] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [23:06] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [23:07] BP{k}: yes i am using slack 12.2. umm ok thats correct but when i try to install it it says i have a improper ending as i stated before [23:08] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [23:08] icpu: okay, slackware-current, is the development version of slackware. not the same as 12.2. You can't go mixing and matching slackware-12.2 and -current. [23:10] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [23:10] BP{k}: ok i see what you're saying. so should i change my mirror to 12.2 then? [23:11] nvm i figured it out [23:11] icpu: if youi plan to run slackware-12.2 then yes. if you run to plan -current then you need to fully upgrade to -current. it's pretty much an all or nothing job. [23:11] how much of current have you installed already, you might want to uninstall those packages and put stock slackware packages back in] [23:11] ircing as root.. your lucky this channel is nice i guess... others would ban you [23:11] NukeDukem: this is a fresh install [23:12] ok, you are safe then except for logging in irc as root [23:12] that sucked [23:12] now get out of here and run adduser [23:12] was pretty far in a lvel in doom walk into a corner and fall to my death [23:13] icpu (n=root@cpe-24-29-194-107.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [23:13] even had the flash light on errrrr [23:13] Rupp (n=Rupp@c-24-131-125-51.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] Rupp (n=Rupp@c-24-131-125-51.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:14] icpu (n=ameer@cpe-24-29-194-107.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:14] goodboy leroy [23:15] laters, sleepytime for me, im off to visit dreamland [23:15] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:17] PiterPunk (n=piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] Anybody here is using Slackware 12.2 with the HP All-in-one F4280? [23:18] http://www.slackpkg.org/stable/slackpkg-2.80-noarch-3.tgz [23:18] If anyone wants to play, new slackpkg [23:18] http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/06/18/1736257/Montana-City-Requires-Workers-Internet-Accounts?art_pos=11 [23:18] My Slackware 12.2 cannot send any data to the printer [23:18] what is this crap [23:18] :-( [23:18] <|Slacker|> PiterPunk, I'll try it out [23:18] you know... if you 'export IRCUSER=whatever', irssi and most other clients will report that as your username [23:19] if you *really* wanna IRC as root, "export IRCUSER=bob" and nobody will know... still a stupid idea though [23:22] asarch, my HP AIO (different model) sometimes wants to be unplugged from USB and plugged in again, that gets it going. [23:22] rob0: Oh [23:22] rob0: Did you follow any HowTo to get it work? [23:23] The scanner function works great [23:23] But when I send the test page it doesn't print anything :-( [23:24] There are a couple of HowTos but they are for 11 or for 10 [23:26] IMO the bad thing about IRC as root is not so likely that you'll be exploited, as it is a beginning of bad habits which bode poorly for the future. [23:27] rob0: well said [23:27] asarch: don't recall looking for any howto, no. [23:27] http://localhost:631/ is your friend [23:28] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.79.193) joined ##slackware. [23:31] I did rob0, hundreds of times [23:31] Even with each one of the filters [23:31] do you have hplip installed [23:31] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:31] By the way, hp-setup cannot find the printer [23:31] Yes I do VampirePenguin [23:32] most hp stuff is in there [23:32] However the http://localhost:631/'s "Find printer" function did [23:32] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:33] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left irc: "." [23:33] When I sent to print the test page, it "simulates" it is printing the page but the printer actually does nothing [23:34] asarch, http://mylinuxexploits.blogspot.com/2008/09/installing-my-new-hp-f4280-deskjet.html [23:34] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:34] ther seem to be more dependencies than hplip [23:34] thefixr (n=thefixr@cpe-76-170-71-14.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [23:35] nullify_ (i=n@68-114-223-90.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [23:36] There is no installation package for Slackware :-( [23:37] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [23:37] (Not even a "generic" one) [23:37] gar0t0 (n=casa@189-69-80-40.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:41] thefixr (n=thefixr@cpe-76-170-71-14.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:41] There is a tarball for advanced users! Let's try it! [23:41] asarch, there are a whole mess of dependencies which slack would have for printing [23:41] it looks like they are using the f4100 ppd [23:42] with a current hplip and the other dependencies to get the rest of the functionality out of your printer [23:42] Oh [23:42] go thru the page [23:42] What should I do? [23:43] ya its *bnut* but cups, hplip and the deps are all the same no matter what distro [23:43] removepkg hplip and then try to install the tarball content? [23:43] i personally stick with binaries unless i absolutely have to compile [23:43] Actually, the tarball contents binaries [23:44] everything in 12.2 whic h i assume your using is optimized together as a stabele package [23:44] http://slackware.pastebin.com/m29c1d122 [23:45] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:45] Oh [23:45] Then I'll have to wait until the next -stable release [23:45] why [23:46] just take some time to read both pages and find out what your have installed and dont.. then ascertain your direction from there [23:46] Oh [23:46] be methodical..not chaotic [23:47] Oh, that's a good advice :-) [23:49] BRB! [23:49] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.153.86) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [23:53] VampirePenguin: what are you supposed to do if you're naturally Chaotic Neutral though? [23:54] oh like me [23:54] punt [23:54] :0 [23:54] i wont tell if u dont though Urchlay [23:54] :) [23:55] the new slackpkg works for me [23:55] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:55] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-22-252.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "fui" [23:56] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-22-252.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:56] currently trying to do something that requires a much more ordered mind than I really have [23:57] figure out chords to a song, write the chord names above the exact spot on the lyric sheet where the changes happen [23:58] sounds easier than it is [23:58] what is the benefit from running VPN over ssh? Security? Ease of administration? [23:58] only having to have one port open on your firewall (port 22), which is sort of both? [23:58] the fun thing is to run a reverse sssh so you make a tunnel [23:59] our customers alwasy try to shut down their ssh ports and forces us to use a number of vpn software. from my perspective ssh is so much easier. I wonder why they don't agree [00:00] --- Fri Jun 19 2009