[00:01] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [00:02] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:03] shonudo (user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [00:04] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [00:04] whats the current status of wicd? [00:04] The devs are busy. [00:05] with other stuff [00:05] is my 1.6.2.2 still the latest stable? [00:05] There's a 1.7 [00:05] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:06] oh, is there a good changelog to see what i can haz now? [00:07] probably on sf.net [00:07] not that i ever use 1.6.2.2 but if i'm not going to use something i want it to be the latest. [00:09] [yop] (~yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Quit: [yop] [00:09] I see. [00:12] jiraia (~jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::573f) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:17] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:18] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:20] NaCl, does 1.7 support WPA2 networks now? (reading the changelog) [00:20] what? via some template mod? [00:20] would i have to worry about /etc/fonts/conf.avail with compat32? [00:21] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [00:21] for webcore-fonts [00:21] i'm setting up wine [00:21] for 32bit. i'm on 64bit [00:21] when i was using wicd with my friend's ubuntu laptop, it refused to connect to a WEP network, and i'm about to install slack on my gateway laptop, and my campus uses WPA2, so i'm a bit paranoid [00:22] that was 1.6 (on the ubuntu box) [00:22] biker (~biker@200.38.22.93.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) joined ##slackware. [00:22] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/webcore-fonts/ [00:22] kpilar (~60fac2bc@gateway/web/freenode/x-ucgaewiybtgmcjui) left irc: [00:22] i like liberation [00:22] Necos: it should work, but there could be problems specifying the connection parameters. [00:22] Sorry, can't be more specific than that [00:22] necos, what's up with this weather [00:23] jeev, summer's almost here :P [00:23] it's annoying [00:23] hot ass weather [00:23] farts aren't as loud as they should be.. a bunch of other stuff [00:23] on windows, we have to log in with our network accounts [00:23] jeev +1 [00:24] Necos: MSCHAPv2 ftl [00:24] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:24] hei :) [00:24] http://www.csun.edu/it/training/guides/wpa2_xp.html [00:25] PEAP, is what it uses for auth [00:25] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:25] what was the issue with wep and wicd? [00:25] Necos: there are also several for WEP, hex keys and passwords. [00:25] i'd type the wep passcode in hex and it would never authenticate (past issue) [00:26] strange did you ever find out the source of the problem? [00:26] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [00:26] yes, the way that is done in wicd could definitely be designed better [00:26] nope, and i don't have the laptop to test with again [00:26] mancha, wel the wicd that comes with the dvd installation didnt regognize my school network [00:26] I had to download the newest version [00:27] the wicd that comes with the disk is broken [00:27] so yeah [00:27] biker, if you mean 1.6.2.1 with slack 13, it was broked [00:27] lol [00:27] but, if you look at the website i linked above, i'm wondering if i could do that with wicd (or any other wireless toolset in linux) [00:27] ok now I understand why i had that problem :p [00:27] Necos: yes [00:27] Definitely [00:28] uh oh... EAP MSCHAPv2 [00:28] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [00:28] It should work, the network I use is EAP-TLS [00:29] do you have a guide handy, by chance? [00:30] Nope, sorry. [00:30] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [00:31] but you do need to put MSCHAPV2 into some auth method box on the PEAP inputs [00:31] hmm, i better do an inventory of hardware on this box before i install [00:31] NM has this designed well, more or less [00:31] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:31] I can't get EAP-TLS working with it. [00:31] Although the fact that I got it running is about a minor miracle [00:32] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [00:33] hehe [00:33] Action: NaCl had to install Kits. [00:33] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:33] but doesn't network manager require gnome? [00:33] Parts of it. [00:33] ugh, policykit et al? [00:33] And polkit [00:33] Yup, I installed it on my lappy [00:33] how'd that work out? [00:33] polkit [00:34] It works [00:34] I think. [00:34] is there even a slackbuild for polkit? [00:34] immortal_eddie (~eddie@189.107.67.37) joined ##slackware. [00:35] does someone here with 64 bit has problems running some programs? [00:35] some programs? [00:35] if you don't have multilib, you might have problems [00:35] Necos: it exists, only a small amount of people have it [00:36] intel 2200BG wireless is supported in kernel now? [00:36] even still, it's not hard to make it from scratch, but you need my patch to make it work in -current [00:36] Necos: for a long while [00:36] IIRC, anyway [00:37] http://wrevolution.org/laptops/ <--- interesting (roughly the same model as my laptop) [00:38] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:38] The 2200 is oldish [00:38] i built polkit, i might still have the script here [00:38] mancha: with the patch? [00:39] "the patch" ? [00:39] polkit-1, right? [00:39] Without pam, right? [00:39] i'm gonna be running slack13-32bit on the laptop... don't wanna bother with multilib on it [00:39] gsb should have scripts for it too i suppose [00:39] yes, w/o pam [00:39] PolicyKit != Polkit-1 [00:39] Totally not backwards compatible [00:39] mancha: version number? [00:40] tsktsk (~18740869@gateway/web/freenode/x-zserzwrgkifdnanv) joined ##slackware. [00:40] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-146.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby [00:40] sahk0: and I took a look at GSB, they only have the old polkit [00:41] 94 or 95 i forget [00:41] i thought polkit was new :p anyway havent checked myself [00:41] was it here or offtopic where someone mentioned IP over pigeon? [00:42] here [00:42] here alisonken [00:42] in that case http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1149.html [00:43] mancha: and it works? [00:43] yeah [00:43] polkit-1 is the newer animal, btw [00:43] NaCl, look at the dates :) [00:43] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:44] alisonken1noc: wha? [00:44] cbpye (~Administr@c-68-51-162-118.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:44] and yes - it is a valid rfc [00:44] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:44] NaCl, sorry - thought you were asking about rfc [00:44] rfc1149 [00:44] mancha: that is what I am talking about. polkit-1 needs to be patched for shadow. [00:45] alisonken1noc: I looked at the title. [00:45] what? [00:45] hehehe [00:45] NaCl, earlier today, someone mentioned IP over pigeon [00:45] hahahaha [00:45] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools'_Day_RFC [00:46] mancha: PiterPunk did stuff with PolicyKit, I tweaked it to work with polkit-1. [00:46] this is great :) [00:46] i see [00:47] It was submitted to the polkit mailing list, but it hasn't been touched yet. [00:47] pamifying slack is another option, of course. and then you authenticate via a thumb-reader and such [00:48] Action: NaCl didn't feel like recompiling almost all of slack [00:48] an option which i hope pat seriously considers doing at the distrib-level [00:48] not nearly all of slack, just the authentication stuff and a few userland utils [00:49] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.78.68) joined ##slackware. [00:49] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:50] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:51] 99 min to download the install dvd over torrent... not bad [00:52] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:52] exbio (~efzaexbio@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. 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[02:03] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:03] if I'm trying to rmmod something, but the module is in use, how do I stop the device so that I can rmmod it? [02:04] Step 1. get a box [02:04] Step 2. cut a hole in the box. [02:04] anybody running aliens kde 4.4.1? [02:05] alice_ (~alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:05] antiwire: the suspense is killing me! :P [02:05] Reticenti, use lsof to see what's holding the device open. [02:05] antiwire, **** in a box? [02:05] haha [02:05] ah, thansk Motoko-chan [02:06] Is that a yes? [02:06] maybe it's just "not no" [02:06] zup Reticenti :p [02:07] hey biker [02:07] did you ever get compiz working? [02:07] Reticenti, nop =/ [02:07] :p [02:07] lol [02:07] switch to awesome, and you wont need compiz :P [02:07] I even lose the preinstalled compiz, so I dont have multiple desktops and none effects [02:07] xD [02:07] lol [02:07] are you using xfce or kde? [02:08] Reticenti, kde [02:08] ah [02:08] with enlightenment you dont need compiz either :p [02:08] well, kde has a pretty nice compositing engine already [02:08] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-10.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:08] Reticenti, but in order to install compiz you must uninstall the default one xD [02:09] no you dont [02:09] alicephilippa (~alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [02:09] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:09] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [02:09] antiwire, **** in a box is old. Check out Motherlover. [02:09] Yes, it is almost as bad as it sounds. [02:10] It's just a tensy less squicky than you might think. [02:10] Reticenti, ooo sweet I found them :p [02:11] hahah [02:11] found what? 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[02:28] get them from google android [02:28] mancha, I didnt find them there [02:28] but I already find a package :p [02:28] found * [02:28] thanks :) [02:30] exbio (~efzaexbio@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Quit: Bye! [02:31] tuxdev (hidden-use@wsip-98-173-30-169.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:32] A question in two parts (category: comedy). Has anyone here 1) multilib'd up a slackware64-current box recently and 2) did it destroy it? [02:35] sadsfae (~sadsfae@funcamp.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2-dev [02:38] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4134, sources date: 20100125, built on: 2010-03-15 04:15:14 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [02:38] sadsfae (~sadsfae@funcamp.net) joined ##slackware. [02:41] ahahhahahahah, gotta love robby. http://noobfarm.org/?id=1885 [02:43] pipes, hi :p [02:43] heh [02:43] im just reading on how to multilib my slackware64 [02:43] mornin' [02:44] tewmten, night :P [02:44] good morning tewmten [02:44] i went to sleep after work and just woke up uggh [02:44] 2:41am here [02:44] can nevr go to sleep after i do that :P [02:44] damn xD [02:44] i just got in to work.. [02:44] pipes, how did you multilib it? [02:45] zux1wrk (~zux@80.232.209.244) joined ##slackware. [02:46] Axius (~hi@92.82.92.145) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:49] is weechat in slackware sets? [02:49] (irc client) [02:50] ahh, doesn't look like it [02:52] nille_ (1000@c-83-233-249-34.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [02:54] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-103.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:00] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:05] Hermann (~Hermannn@m90-137-69-221.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. 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[03:15] Nick change: antiwire -> Guest54860 [03:15] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [03:16] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:17] Mel-nix: hmm indeeed. [03:17] damn, that was a big netjoin >.> [03:19] Anybody hosting AFS servers? I'm thinking about setting up some distributed filesystems, my experience with using AFS as a user is limited though. [03:19] Not sure if it's too difficult for the clients to setup [03:19] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:20] aufs? [03:20] andrew file system [03:21] ah [03:21] we tried aufs but had regression issues that the developer couldn't fix in a timely fashion [03:21] DFS is very interesting actually [03:22] what is aufs? [03:22] another union filesystem [03:22] I need something that's stable though. [03:22] union as in the synchronizing tool? [03:22] the dead project? [03:22] but i'm partial because it's samba [03:22] Mel-nix: I am just reading something on the Arch wiki that vol_id is no longer part of ulib. [03:22] union as in what live cd's use - overlap a writeable filesystem over a read-only filesystem [03:22] union mounting file system [03:23] yes, it's a whole fs type [03:24] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-103.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:24] i'm so glad the http install is working... >.<; [03:24] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-221.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:24] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [03:24] (i'm not sure, but i think aufs has been deprecated in favor of aufs2) [03:25] altho, i might try it with the new dvd i burned at 2.4x... this is taking way too long lol [03:26] trhodes: i was thinking about unison [03:26] So what aufs2 > AFS ? [03:26] ahh ok [03:26] oh, sorry, they're not really related [03:27] altho you could make NFS + aufs appear to be distributed [03:27] Mel-nix: I believe {and based on the Archwiki that blkid now replaces vol_id} [03:28] it doesn't have any properties of a true distributed FS (fault tolerance comes to mind), however [03:28] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [03:28] nille_ (1000@c-83-233-249-34.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:29] immortal_eddie (~eddie@189.107.67.37) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:31] BP{k}: Thanks for the info. [03:32] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:33] Guest54860 (~antiwire@97-94-111-202.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [03:33] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:41] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-135.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. 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[04:56] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@77.49.9.154.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:00] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-3-44.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Deuces. [05:00] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-147-234-246.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:06] aperturefever (~abell@athedsl-200070.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:09] Nick change: SETKEH -> setkeh [05:09] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:09] brbrbr (~basiley@89.208.116.17) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:10] brbrbr (~basiley@89.208.116.17) joined ##slackware. [05:13] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:14] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-106.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:15] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-218.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:20] anyone here use skype 2.0.0.72? [05:20] have to wait till I get home to check [05:21] ok - I have 2.0.0.27 at home [05:21] mancha: wassup? [05:22] Reaver1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [05:22] do you happen to recall where you dl'd the tarball from? was it skype.com ? [05:23] cbpye (~Administr@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:23] mancha: slackbuilds.org [05:23] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:24] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) joined ##slackware. [05:24] doesn't SBo simply link the source url? or do they house tarballs too? [05:25] slackbuilds.org is slackbuilds only and any needed extra info files, but no sources [05:25] I use sbopkg so it's easier to play with and review the slackbuild to see where the sources come from [05:26] i guess my question is where you got the skype binary from, not the slackbuild script (if any). [05:27] presumably from skype.com through a link on SBO or a direct referral link on sbopkg. in that case, can you sha512sum it? [05:29] from the info file: DOWNLOAD="http://puppylinux.dreamhosters.com/download_misc/skype/skype-2.0.0.72.tar.bz2" [05:29] MD5SUM="71fa47d788e73bcaf5b788be9236e97d" [05:30] skype doesn't host the stable version anymore [05:30] Axius (~fd@92.82.92.145) joined ##slackware. [05:30] still only 32-bit [05:30] at least I couldn't find it [05:30] yeah [05:30] skype is a pain [05:30] and what do you know - we host this guy [05:30] pprkut yes this is the issue i have, so i am trying to get the hash on a known file that was originally from skype.com [05:31] hello [05:31] yo [05:32] Axius (~fd@92.82.92.145) left irc: Client Quit [05:32] Morn [05:32] the only skype-hosted one I have is 2.1.0.47 [05:33] is skype easy to install yet? [05:34] mancha: the md5sum in the .info file is correct, I just changed the download link [05:34] 2.0.0.72 slackbuild is on SBo [05:35] Axius (~fd@92.82.92.145) joined ##slackware. [05:35] pprkut: alison's link seems to be the dynamic build? or was it renamed? skype used the naming skype_static_.... on their static builds [05:36] but is it easy to install? last time i tried and failed. [05:37] I've made a boot patition for slackware and I want to use that partition intead od MBR. It's possibile? [05:37] mancha: I'm pretty sure it's a static build, it works on -current, though [05:37] yes [05:37] Axius [05:37] What should I do then? [05:37] SunTzu, I just ran the slackbuild in sbopkg [05:38] and? [05:38] works fine at home [05:38] ty [05:38] I boot patition is mounted on /dev/sda3 [05:38] the home machine is running slack64-current with alien's 32-bit compatibility [05:38] my boot patition is mounted on /dev/sda3 [05:39] the -current is from a couple of weeks ago, so it doesn't have the updates from the last week [05:39] Axius you need assistance with lilo bootloader; focus your questions on that [05:39] alison, not to disagree with you but unless SBo changed the name intentionally, your file seems to be their "dynamic" build [05:39] mancha: oh, yes, the slackbuild uses the dynamic build [05:40] ok - then it's the dynamic build. I didn't check whether the sbo was static or not [05:40] should I put /dev/sda3 instead of root =/dev/sda6 in /ect.lilo.conf? [05:41] pprkut: ok as i suspected. what i guess i am after is the sha512 of the static 2.0.0.27 on a file known to have come from skype.com. do you have such a file on your box? [05:41] Axius: no - you put root= : not your boot partition [05:41] Nick change: mfreenet -> mikee [05:41] mancha: check the 12.2 repo, it should still refer to the static stable skype [05:41] ex: my partitioning is sda1=/boot, sda2=/root, sda3=swap, sda4=/home - so my root=/dev/sda2 [05:42] though the link will be dead [05:42] pprkut, but the link will be dead. so you mean for the sake of the hash? [05:42] yes [05:42] the hash will only be md5 which i already have though various google sources. [05:42] ah, ok [05:42] i want to double confirm with an additional hash, sha512 [05:43] it would be incredibly difficult for someone to alter it malicuoulsy and collide md5 and sha512 at the same time [05:43] let me look, I might still have the static somewhere... [05:43] that would be nice of you,thanks. [05:44] alisonken1noc: I made a primary boot partition on sda3. [05:44] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-218.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:45] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-15.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:45] hmmm [05:45] i FINALLY got slack installed [05:45] alisonken1noc: I have two partition with the flag bootable: /sda1 and /sda3 [05:45] usb or dvd? [05:45] Axius: bootable flag is for windows only [05:46] lilo/grub don't use the boot flag [05:46] i ended up burning disc 1 to dvd and then installing over samba since the dvd extracted fine [05:46] sorry - microsoft, not necessarily windows [05:46] ken, i forget if you are a coder? [05:46] alisonken1noc: that's way is shown with cfdisk [05:47] mancha: sorry, only betas here :/ [05:47] Axius, just saying that the boot flag is only used by microsoft O/S - lilo/grub don't care if it's boot flag is set or cleared [05:47] SOUL_OF_R00T (~leo@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [05:47] bootflag is bios flag [05:47] how do you get to the tap-to-click to work on the touchpad? [05:47] pprkut that's ok, thanks for taking the time to look. [05:48] alisonken1noc i forget, are you a coder? [05:48] dude.. its been WAY too long now.. i have to ask about your nick. I assume 1 is just a separator and i get {wrk,noc} but.. is your name Alison Ken? [05:48] do you know if any of the regs here have a habit of keeping older files like that tucked away? [05:48] SunTzu, depends on your definition of "coder" :) [05:48] stddef [05:48] I've done some coding in several languages [05:48] maybe you'll like this url [05:48] mancha: no idea [05:48] Necos is it synaptics? [05:48] yep [05:49] http://www.danielsen.com/jokes/cplusminus.txt [05:49] Axius: You can use /sbin/liloconfig to setup lilo.conf(5) [05:50] i'm wondering if i'm going to have to make a xorg.conf... [05:51] synclient TapButton1=1 [05:51] mancha: found a copy of skype_static-2.0.0.72.tar.bz2 on my home machine [05:51] ah [05:51] where did it come from? :) [05:51] that one should have been from skype [05:51] Axius: /sbin/liloconfig is also available from pkgtool(8). [05:51] alisonken1noc: ^ [05:51] cool. can you sha512sum it> [05:52] 3fafc6340ab278001fa2aed908c09c8cd4494f0c93738ce31a423774050398a73be0d94a22dee60e15dee7f39360d982a361c615641c0dad6fe27c69b557630c [05:52] mancha, is there something for the scrollbar too? [05:53] alison, OK, that checks out actually. and you're sure you got it from skype.com? [05:53] Mel-nix: ok, thank you. [05:54] I'm pretty sure since it's skype-static, and that directory was an old backup that I copied to a new drive either end of last year or beginning of this year, before I found the SBo package [05:54] synclient VertEdgeScroll=1 [05:54] alisonken1noc: ok then, thanks a bunch. that provided the needed confirmation for me. [05:54] np [05:54] a better question is, where'd you get the variable list? :) [05:54] brainvision (~brainvisi@host238-0-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [05:55] perfect! [05:55] Necos: there's actually a hal(?) define file somewhere with that info [05:55] Necos back when i set up my touchpad...probably from the synclient driver folks. [05:55] either that or something on the web [05:55] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.114.108) joined ##slackware. [05:55] does it need to be set after logouts/reboots? [05:56] Axius (~fd@92.82.92.145) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [05:56] yes this way we're doing it requires you to do it eacht timeyou stat X [05:56] you can either put this in your rc file for X, or you can set it up in a xorg.conf or you can use a HAL fdi file if your xorg is HAL-aware. [05:56] ah, but if i set it in xorg.conf, i can avoid that [05:56] three options there [05:57] actually, xorg.conf doesn't work. At least here the (input) values are ignored [05:57] well, i've been using HAL thus far [05:57] guess i should fix the mouse scroll speed too, while i'm at it [05:57] for hal it would be something like: 1 [05:58] double-chck all my suggestions, i have been coding all night and i am cross-eyed at this point [05:58] I'm so hoping for xorg-server 1.8 making it into 13.1, just because of xorg.conf.d [05:58] hehehe no prob [05:58] pprkut aha, does 1.8 abandon hal altotherthen? [05:59] yes, afaik it's udev directly now [05:59] i see, so no replacement with devicekit then [05:59] no [06:00] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [06:00] oh, is this the famous udev-extra module? [06:00] SunTzu, good link - I think I remember finding that somewhere before :) [06:00] slava_dp (~slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [06:01] Wohoo!! No more support/maintenance purchase orders till 2011! :D [06:01] alisonken1noc: pm? [06:01] sure [06:02] alisonken1noc yw [06:03] a funi is a funi [06:03] we be geeks [06:04] mancha: uhm, i don't know. No udev expert :S [06:05] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:05] i think that's it, my recollection of following that thread is that udev rules were going to pick up some of the fdi slack [06:05] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [06:06] ah, much better with white text on black background [06:06] nah - green on black [06:07] mancha++ [06:07] not really a big fan of green text... [06:07] trhodes, oops, what'd i do? [06:08] haha, i mean, yes, i think that's correct regarding udev [06:08] oh heh. [06:09] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:10] SOUL_OF_R00T (~leo@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:12] brainvision (~brainvisi@host102-59-dynamic.55-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:12] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:15] ``another website saved from oblivion'' -- me. [06:15] Reaver1 (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [06:15] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [06:15] matt0 (~matt0@60-241-58-23.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:15] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-19-199.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:16] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-15.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:16] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [06:16] Does anyone know of an up to date .tgz archive of google chrome for 12.2? [06:16] I can only find old versions [06:17] matt0: http://slackbuilds.org [06:17] wow; Sapir-Whorf hypothesis applied to programers and their chosen favorite programming langauges!!! [06:18] Zordak, that doesn't have it [06:18] alrighty... now i'm going to sleep >.<; [06:18] night folks [06:18] gn [06:18] night [06:18] usr_local (~usr_local@c-24-98-137-201.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: bfn [06:19] matt0 google chrome is a beta, that is distributed for debian and redhat. [06:19] Yes, but there is packages for slackware [06:19] if a place like SBo or others provide slackware packagement it is merely a repackaging of those [06:19] I know [06:19] so all you need to do is apply the same repackaging rules to a new snapshot dl [06:20] alternatively, you can be brave and compile chromium on your box. [06:21] "packagement" is an example of my mental state :) [06:22] Heh, compiling chromium is not my thing. I found a slackbuild script that hopefully works [06:22] it should, the deps haven't changed since 12.2 [06:22] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:23] (gconf and ORBit2) [06:23] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) joined ##slackware. [06:23] Yea, I have those. [06:25] does chrome do per-PID tabs and/or windows on linux ? [06:25] found: ``programming langauge concepts for sale - NZ'' omgz [06:26] http://trademe.co.nz [06:27] pireau (1000@208.92.18.67) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:27] Axius (~fd@92.84.13.220) joined ##slackware. [06:29] is chrome based on Firefox source code ? [06:29] uh.. [06:29] no? [06:29] nope [06:29] well, there it is :) [06:30] ok so here's what i want to know; who's the pervert who forked kernel to Chrome? [06:30] :) [06:30] ``everyone wants to fork linux; i only have a spoon'' [06:31] Is Google's Chrome Browser based on Mozilla? [06:31] No, it's based on Apple's WebKit. [06:31] http://knol.google.com/k/google-chrome-browser-q-a# [06:32] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-19-86.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:32] did anyone else notice that the mid-country weather-patterns were in retrograde last week? [06:33] from east-coast westward [06:33] mid US ? [06:33] oh [06:33] Rossonero: SunTzu: Yeah.. um, how far off topic do you two plan to go here? [06:33] the rain that headed up the coast [06:33] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-199.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:33] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [06:33] Zordrak 1. not too far; 2. while no other on-topic discussions present themselves? :) [06:34] but i'm amenable to a linux disucssion :) [06:34] matt0 worked? [06:34] do the NOAA copmuters run linux? (zordrak, satisfied? :) [06:34] yeah, i'm curious too, i really oughta jst try chrome [06:34] SunTzu: redhat mainly [06:34] ah heh [06:34] Zordrak go away :) [06:35] Zordrak, how many times you discussed off topic subject here ? you are the big one who do that here !! [06:36] ooo, i'm tellin... [06:36] mancha, yes. One second and I'll tell you what I did [06:36] It was really just in response to you both asking questions more random than fortune and then answering them yourselves :) [06:37] Mancha: I downloaded http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/continuous/linux/LATEST/chrome-linux.zip then I linked some libraries from firefox's directory to /usr/lib which chrome needed [06:37] and it worked [06:38] i love it when mplayer console side will let me switch tty so i can do alittle reading in irc :) [06:38] Linked those libraries -> http://pastebin.com/8n7AWfuB [06:38] matt0, oh you used a snapshot build of chromium, i originally meant a beta snapshotof chrome [06:39] SunTzu: i want to send you a link to some ncdc supercomputers if I can ever find it again [06:39] see a /pm [06:39] Does anyone knows where can I find #slackware logs? [06:40] see topic [06:40] mirmillo_, what kind of logs? [06:40] changelogs are all over the place in the repos [06:40] wigglit.ath.cx [06:40] alisonken1noc: channel's logs [06:40] ok [06:40] nille_ (1000@c-83-233-249-34.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [06:41] matt0: do you have flash enabled for chrome ? [06:41] No [06:43] so wht's supposed to be the point of Chrome? [06:43] the Why? [06:43] to build a better browser? :P [06:43] browsing the web? [06:43] because they can? [06:43] is it? [06:44] works great for me really [06:44] sandboxed tabs and all [06:44] k [06:44] anything else? [06:44] better javascript is one goal [06:44] fast javascript engine [06:44] a new implementation? [06:44] SunTzu: all information you can find on the web [06:45] but conversations are better [06:45] surrounder: sandboxed tabs ? [06:45] see? i didnt think to follow up on that point [06:45] http://blog.chromium.org/2008/10/new-approach-to-browser-security-google.html [06:45] i know windows does the per pid tabs / windows, but linux... I can't find out [06:46] linux not apparantly [06:46] ff is growing too huge [06:46] hmm, OS sandboxing, but that's OK (as long as they do linux right) [06:46] so, heavy threads? [06:46] yes, of course it does [06:46] yes, FF is painful [06:46] chrome is chrome [06:46] and adobe's flash plugin sucks shit. there;s no reason why your cpu has to clock 99% to watch a youtube vid [06:47] definitly true [06:47] mmm [06:47] the cost of pids per tab IMO is less than crashing the WHOLE BROWSER periodically [06:47] playing the same flash file on mplayer clocks 8-11% cpu depending [06:47] mancha: gotta love adobe [06:47] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [06:48] I wouldn't say the plugin sucks shit, I would say the technology sucks shit. [06:49] aperturefever (~abell@athedsl-200070.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [06:49] indeed, let's hope google does some nice stuff with html5 in youtube [06:50] What should I put in /ect/rc.d/rc.local to start a dhcl connection? [06:51] dhcl? [06:51] Zordrak: I'm useing dhcp. [06:51] grep dhcp /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 [06:52] zaltekk: I'm useing dhcp. [06:52] dhcpc appears to be what's default in -current [06:53] mirmillo_: http://www.slackbook.org/html/network-configuration-tcpip.html [06:53] that's old [06:54] Evilaz (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [06:54] trhodes, Flash seemed to work with chrome without any tinkering on my behalf [06:54] surrounder there's no way [06:54] hm ? [06:55] Evilaz (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [06:55] something like this :dhcpcd eth0 I dont know for sure. [06:55] i doubt google's gonna re-code their huge video library [06:55] man dhcpcd [06:55] mancha: they already test with html5 [06:56] but basically "dhcpcd [06:56] mancha: and they just bought a company who creates a codec [06:56] mancha: http://www.youtube.com/html5 [06:57] hrmm interesting, what codec are they using? [06:57] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:57] h.264? [06:58] not sure what they are using at the moment, think h.264 indeed [06:58] html5 is quite important to them (chrome, android) [06:58] ok, well that is what their encoding is on the flash, no? [06:58] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [06:58] just ordered a HTC Legend which supports html5 [06:59] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [06:59] that's my point are they just going to put their vids, in h264 form into another container? [06:59] i.e. not recode [07:00] Stx (~stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [07:00] no idea, they bought this company which created a codec, don't think they did that for nothing [07:01] http://techcrunch.com/2009/08/05/google-acquires-video-compression-technology-company-on2-for-106-million/ [07:01] IF they opensource that and youtube will make use of it it'd be quite cool imho [07:02] "Also noteworthy: Google could use the VP8 codec for YouTube in HTML5 mode, basically forcing its many users to upgrade to HTML5-compliant browsers instead of using Flash formats. [07:02] Smart move by Google, and possibly great news for innovation in web-based video viewing." [07:03] how does it compare bit-rate per bit-rate with ogg? [07:04] I browsed youtube on IE6 today and was pleasantly surprised by a prompt suggesting to upgrade my browser [07:04] i am not an expert in this, but theoras pretty smokin' on the quality/bitrate scale, no? [07:04] Also youtube is basically broken in that browser [07:04] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:04] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-86.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [07:05] Axius (~fd@92.84.13.220) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:05] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-18-32.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:06] Stx_ (~stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [07:07] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:07] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Bye..... [07:07] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [07:07] mancha: dunno either, if the VP8 is better and they opensource it it might be a better option... I mean...they already have that codec [07:08] Stx_ (~stx@freenode/staff/stx) left irc: Client Quit [07:08] Axius (~fd@92.84.13.220) joined ##slackware. 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[07:15] surrounder, lets hope then. open source sounds great and really at this point ill take most anything over adobe's flash [07:15] so does apple, so does google [07:15] Axius (~fd@92.84.13.220) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:16] Guest50448 (~stx@freenode/staff/stx) left irc: Ping timeout: 612 seconds [07:16] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:16] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:17] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-21-200.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:17] Stx (stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [07:17] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-18-32.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:17] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [07:18] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-147-234-246.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:18] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:18] fooy (1000@125.25.114.176.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) joined ##slackware. [07:19] anyone finding themselves with a spare LTO3 drive just hangingc around, getting under their feet.. please let me know.. i provide an excellent garbage collection service for fully working LTO3 drives ;) [07:20] im using a ALC888 realtek, intel HD sound card... only 1 application can play sound at a time! can this be fixed? i used to use SoundBlaster Live! and never had such a problem, many apps can play sound mixed at the same time [07:21] Coke (~coke@c-b3bee055.1212-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [07:22] setkeh (~setkeh@114.74.91.160) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:24] how do i specify absolute paths for autofs? [07:24] sec0nd_: can you clarify what you mean? [07:24] john_dee (~id@93-81-142-52.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:24] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:25] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [07:25] Good mornign. [07:25] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:25] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:25] fooy: test -d /proc/asound && echo alsa # <== sounds like alsa isn't working right, if this command outputs alsa, then it likely needs some module options [07:25] hi riza [07:26] trhodes: it output "alsa" [07:27] ahh ok, then let me link you to some pages that'll help... it'll take a sec [07:27] cbpye (~Administr@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:27] nheco (~nheco@189-10-210-159.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:28] fooy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto and http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/docs/HD-Audio.html [07:28] matt0 (~matt0@60-241-58-23.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Quit: matt0 [07:28] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:29] fooy: what slack are you runnin' ? [07:30] slackware64-current [07:31] fooy: dmesg | grep azx # and pastebin the output if you get any (this is covered at one of those links) [07:32] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:32] zarock (zarock@olaf.pepin.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [07:32] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.47.59) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:33] dmesg | grep azx (gives no output) [07:34] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:34] ok, then you might just need a snd-hda-intel model=$PARAMETER [07:35] i've got an ALC888 that works OK [07:35] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:35] Nick change: raph0x88 -> raph0x24 [07:36] how can you delete a compiled app? not a slackbuild, just compiled from source. [07:36] make uninstall [07:36] Nick change: raph0x24 -> raph0x18 [07:36] check to see if they were smart and included "make uninstall" [07:37] Nick change: raph0x18 -> raph0x88 [07:37] alisonken1noc: i deleted the sources [07:37] doh! [07:37] then untar it, do make, then make uninstall [07:38] er + configure [07:38] anyway to find the sources you used? [07:38] oh, yea, i can download them [07:38] trhodes: where do I put snd-hda-intel model=$PARAMETER ? [07:39] Hi trhodes. :) [07:39] fooy: /etc/modprobe.d/sound [07:39] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Bye..... [07:39] fooy: /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel [07:39] ok, thanks [07:39] it's just arbitrary names anyway :) [07:39] sound may work as well [07:40] my problem is, after i moved from ubuntu, i had to compile some apps and i have no idea how to uninstall them, how to change their install path and so on. For example Maltego installs itself in /home. [07:40] soon all files in /etc/modprobe.d/ will need to have the extension .conf [07:40] fooy, ^ [07:40] so you should make that sound.conf I think [07:40] zarock (zarock@olaf.pepin.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:40] or snd-hda-intel.conf [07:40] would be better [07:42] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:42] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:43] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.114.108) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:43] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-147-234-246.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [07:43] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [07:44] I have this wifi pci card with atheros chipset and I want to use it as a wifi router. Actually not as a router, any solution to connect my laptop to the desktop pc and share the wired internet connection. [07:44] fooy: you can try model=$PARAMTERS from here: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt [07:45] Azeotrope, yes buy a router with wifi [07:45] Azeotrope, http://madwifi-project.org/ [07:45] alisonken1noc, most atheros cards are supported in-tree now [07:46] dive - for client only, ap side is still dicey with the in-tree stuff [07:46] he doesn't want to be AP [07:46] he should connect to the desktop/router [07:46] im going to try something annd reboot [07:46] "Atheros wifi pci card" and "connect laptop to the desktop" indicates he does [07:47] fooy (1000@125.25.114.176.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:47] not really - I connect my laptop to my desktop but the router is AP [07:47] dive: i don't want and i don't have a router [07:47] guax (~guax@201.47.74.147) joined ##slackware. [07:47] guax (~guax@201.47.74.147) left irc: Changing host [07:47] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [07:48] ah right so the wifi card is in the dektop? [07:48] and the laptop has wifi already? [07:48] "pci wifi" :) [07:48] sorry misread [07:48] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-206.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [07:48] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:48] I though like pci card ~= pcmcia card (as some people call it) [07:49] in that case I would concur with madwifi [07:49] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-200.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [07:49] dive yes [07:49] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:50] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-22-66.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:50] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:56] Nick change: riza -> Diamond [07:56] Nick change: Diamond -> riza [07:56] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-147-234-246.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:57] AlexElliott__ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:00] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:01] AlexElliott (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:01] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [08:02] LTL2h (~LTL2h_@AToulouse-258-1-101-72.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:04] AlexElliott__ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [08:04] Hi!! Can you tell me where can I find std::string c++ class on slackware? I'm using g++ compiler and just don't know what do I need to #include. [08:04] Zordrak: I'm using encfs with autofs but encfs needs absolute paths [08:04] Sebo: #include [08:04] Sebo: using namespace std; [08:05] oh he said string [08:05] Sebo: #include [08:05] I have no sound on any of my guest OSes (win and linux). Host is Slackware 13.0, with sound ok. The guests also show that sound is ok. I see this in the logfiles: 00:00:23.265 Audio: set_record_source ars=0 als=0 (not implemented) [08:05] I am sure that is a host problem, not a guest [08:06] I'm using encfs with autofs but encfs needs absolute paths [08:06] I've tried ...and I don't know why #include does not contain any string class :( [08:06] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [08:06] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [08:06] it should [08:06] Sebo: what makes you think it doesn't? [08:07] allend (~allend@CPE-124-176-176-132.lns3.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:07] Cause the compiller still ask me for string definition saying that it is undefinied ;] [08:07] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [08:08] and what's more, I've checked in the lib/string.h file and did not found any string class there;] [08:10] I ment /usr/include/string.h [08:10] did you -lstdc++ [08:10] try that [08:10] sec0nd_: no I did'nt so how can I try it? [08:10] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:11] gcc stuff -lstdc++ [08:11] OK... I'll see :) [08:11] paznak_ (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [08:12] paznak_ (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Client Quit [08:12] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:13] how can i use tor on slackware? I will install Tor, TorK and Vidalia or Polipo? [08:15] why do you need tor? [08:15] sec0nd_: It helped :) [08:16] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-23-220.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:16] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:16] Nobody needs tor. In fact it could even be unsafe to use it. [08:16] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-22-66.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:16] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [08:17] slackin (~slackin@97.103.10.179) joined ##slackware. [08:17] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.wpbhfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [08:18] unsafe in that if you're an exit node people could push their child porn through you [08:18] yep [08:19] true but there are other avenues for that smut too (unfortunately) [08:19] and if not they can still sniff all your incommings and outgoings [08:19] i'd be surprised if there isn't a huge underground ssh ring of 'em [08:19] which makes one wonder why anybody would ever be an exit node, unless theyr'e $Bigco and interested in large-scale traffic analysis [08:20] makes me wonder what is up with free openssh shell servers [08:20] um.. any services that make it meaningful to have ssh access ? IRC, for example ? [08:21] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@77.49.9.154.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Quit: the poul......... :) [08:21] alexcg (~alexander@77.247.168.183) joined ##slackware. [08:21] huh? [08:22] ssh into box, run irssi, mutt etc [08:22] ircbots [08:22] oh i get it now [08:22] well truth be told i wonder how many of the people here are actually bots [08:22] still, oh well [08:22] heh [08:23] Delahunt: security testing [08:23] aka hacking? [08:23] sure ... [08:23] security testing i said [08:23] or hanging out on irc.2600.net [08:23] h4x0r1nG [08:25] Azeotrope, you are better off not security testing and avoiding tor [08:25] imo [08:25] there are/were public proxies around [08:25] but just be better off staying legit [08:26] lol i use my security testing to avoid tor hehe [08:28] heh^ [08:28] dive: i am legit. i use tor mainly for surfing and chat. public proxies are not dependable [08:28] Azeotrope, then why do you need tor? :> [08:30] in your opinion only bad guys use tor? [08:30] he said that tor is potentially hazardous to your legal life [08:31] Action: Zordrak is about to start an import of 8,267 backup images. Lucky its a three day weekend for me cos this will take till early next week :) [08:31] dive: adaptr check tor page on the fact about the stuff that goes thru [08:32] dive: adaptr the safe harbor law comes into effect I believe [08:33] sec0nd_: what page [08:33] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [08:33] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:33] sec0nd_, and what about people sniffing your email, chat, web passes etc? [08:34] https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-dmca-response.html.en [08:34] dive: i was talking about running a relay [08:35] DO NOT use tor for sending personal or sensitive information unless encrypted [08:35] cops, feds, hackers, universities, etc sniff tor daily [08:35] I use i2p [08:36] hoping that it will be better [08:37] DMCA 512(a) safe harbor [08:37] ^ thats why I run tor [08:37] nik0 (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) joined ##slackware. [08:37] its good for most people... although no matter what you do someone will find a way to abuse it [08:38] Reaver1 (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:39] i'd hate to get SLAPP'ed because of tor [08:39] sec0nd_, that page is basically a reply to copyright violation. Doesn't the fact that they provide such a thing worry you? [08:40] because it's there basically because some violating material is passing through your pc [08:40] it's expected [08:40] dive: yeah but I'm in the US so the laws (currently) protect me [08:40] even if you have "Safe Harbor", you still need to defend yourself [08:40] raendeer (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [08:41] also how would i mount encfs in autofs [08:41] bbl [08:41] sec0nd_, but you still may have to go to court to prove that [08:41] defend yourself by not breaking any laws [08:41] 8-) [08:41] indeed, or not having law-breakers routing shit through your pc [08:41] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:42] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [08:42] well that too [08:43] http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512/faq.cgi [08:43] anyways, that's US centric [08:44] not like it matters [08:44] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:44] evil (stealing, child porn) is evil regardless of what the laws in the region say (remember the geneva war crimes trials of former 3rd reich officials) [08:47] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [08:47] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. 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[08:52] how are you installing them using pre built binaries slackbuilds or just the sh file from the nvidia site [08:52] (I forget though) [08:52] sh nvidia site coz they are the latest [08:53] i have /var/log/nvidia-installer.log [08:53] ah ok [08:53] do you recieve an error message [08:53] syntax_error (~sineror@host239-112-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:53] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [08:54] well now we'll never know [08:54] the obvious one is a syntax error [08:55] Well he misses the patch required to compile that nvidia driver with slackware-current's 2.6.33 kernel I think [08:55] sounds like it [08:56] vldmr (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [08:56] syntax_error (~sineror@host239-112-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:56] i ve been disconnected [08:57] i miss something may be about nvidia driver [08:57] Nick change: vldmr -> AbsTradELic [08:57] sorry [08:57] [12:55] < alienBOB> Well he misses the patch required to compile that nvidia driver with slackware-current's 2.6.33 kernel I think [08:58] well i m running 2.6.29.6 [08:59] I m running 13 not current [08:59] Reaver1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [09:01] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:01] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-25-63.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:01] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-25-160.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:01] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [09:02] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) joined ##slackware. [09:03] Blue-Slacker (blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) left ##slackware. [09:04] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/bQfMLe56.html [09:04] Nick change: nik0 -> niko [09:04] help [09:04] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [09:04] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. [09:04] compiling for compat32 [09:05] morn notKlaatu [09:05] hey artv61 [09:05] waitaminute what are you doing in here? [09:06] stuart_ (~stuart@110.159.67.76) joined ##slackware. [09:06] what's the best text based msn client [09:06] lo Klaatu [09:06] msn client? [09:07] stuart_, I prefer finch [09:07] bitlbee is another option [09:07] stuart_: bitlbee has been working nice for me the last few years [09:07] cool thanks [09:08] spook: youve been quiet for ages.. what you up to? [09:08] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:09] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:09] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [09:10] anyone compile compat32 programs in 64bit? [09:11] alphad64 (~alphad64@41.207.31.57) joined ##slackware. [09:12] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:12] drakevr (~Elive_use@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [09:12] hello [09:13] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:13] Reaver1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:14] got a strange problem, not really sure if you are the people to bug for it though O.o [09:14] what is it [09:14] how do i edit groups again [09:14] had slackware 13.0 boot fine in the morning [09:14] stuart_: vigr [09:14] but now i can't even see my hd.. the whole hd [09:15] currently im online from a live cd.. which can't read the disk either [09:15] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [09:15] Hi. [09:15] Why do I get this error on firefox? Your browser is no longer supported. [09:15] Please upgrade to a modern browser. [09:15] drakevr: unplug/replug your drive power and data cables [09:15] D: [09:15] riza: you could maybe upgrade your browser? [09:16] or ignore the message [09:16] well should i avoid to compile rivaf and nvidiafb as module in order to install nvidia driver [09:16] alexcg (~alexander@77.247.168.183) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [09:16] Zordrak, drive power and data cables? [09:16] well should i avoid to compile rivaf and nvidiafb as module in order to install nvidia driver ? [09:16] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-234-251.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [09:16] its firefox 3.0 eol [09:16] hm i already vigr'd and vigr -s to include my user into bitlbee group, but it still says can't read/write to /var/lib/bitlbee everytime i try to run it? [09:16] stuart_: check the permissions [09:16] surrounder, I can't watch the video at all. [09:17] And it is the latest firefox! [09:17] upgrade flash [09:17] syntax_error, iirc you should not have rivafb or nvidiafb compiled [09:17] riza: are you on x86_64 using flash? [09:17] stuart_: is this in X or console? [09:18] Nope, not on 64. [09:18] Upgrade flash? It's already the latest. [09:18] i got the same message in youtube last week. i think it was the same [09:18] dive, ok then let recompile the kernel [09:18] (by console i mean pure tty console... Konsole in X for example is still in X) [09:18] Zordrak: console [09:18] Zordrak: oh, X [09:18] i downloaded the same flash version and it went away. weird [09:18] stuart_: logout/login [09:19] Reaver1 (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [09:19] drakevr (~Elive_use@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: I e Elive [09:19] stuart_: its an arsebucket.. but its necessary. all shells generated from your current X login inherit the group perms it had when the X login started [09:19] Maybe I should reinstall. : [09:19] :( [09:20] reinstall what? [09:20] riza, which w/site is this? [09:20] youtube.com [09:20] D: [09:20] damn [09:20] and which FF version? [09:20] When I go to help->about it shows 3.6 [09:21] stuart_ (~stuart@110.159.67.76) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:21] riza, do you have useragent switcher installed? [09:21] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:21] dive, how do I check? [09:21] it's an addon so you remember if you installed it i think [09:22] Well I checked extensions and plugins in add-ons, so nope not htere. [09:22] stuart_ (~stuart@110.159.67.76) joined ##slackware. [09:23] strange [09:23] riza: try removing & reinstalling/copying the libflashfoo.so [09:23] hm now bitlbee just says :localhost.localdomain NOTICE AUTH :BitlBee-IRCd initialized, please go on [09:23] and hangs [09:23] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:23] i dont know if it was the same message i got on youtube, or it said flash version was too old which wasnt the case but that solved it [09:24] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [09:24] sahk0, how can I do that? D: [09:25] how did you install flash? [09:25] To be honest, I don't remember, this youtube error just recently came up. [09:26] riza, try the slackbuild at slackbuilds.org [09:26] All of my packages are from slackbuild. [09:26] well maybe there's an update for flash [09:26] So yeah I guess if flash didn't come with it, I must've installed it from slackbuild. [09:26] I'll look. D: [09:26] nheco (~nheco@189-10-210-159.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Saindo [09:27] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [09:27] alphad64 (~alphad64@41.207.31.57) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [09:27] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [09:27] install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz is the package I have installed. [09:27] Can't tell the version. [09:28] were have you copied the library? [09:28] s/were/where [09:29] I didn't. I used flash-player-plugin.tar.gz. [09:29] This was all a long time ago. [09:29] Dunno why I'm getting the error now. [09:29] Perhaps I should close firefox and try reinstalling flash. [09:29] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [09:30] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-234-251.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [09:30] Nick change: mikee -> mfreenet [09:32] Gulug (old-times@slave.gulug.com.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [09:32] stuart_ (~stuart@110.159.67.76) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:33] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-25-63.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:33] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-22-7.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:33] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [09:34] riza: Reinstalling flash is simply getting the latest version and placing libflashplayer.so in the polugins directory. What video are you unable to play? [09:34] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:34] youtube vids. D: [09:35] did you restart all FF windows after? [09:35] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-147-234-246.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:35] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:35] NOt yet, I didn't even start. I'm busy trying to do work. D: [09:35] what version of FF do you have? [09:35] 3.6 [09:35] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:36] rv2733 (rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [09:36] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) left irc: Ping timeout: 624 seconds [09:36] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:36] riza: Maybe you DO need to install flashplayer, (the latest version). [09:37] What error are you getting? [09:37] ALVAN (~galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [09:37] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:37] terry_, it says to upgrade firefox. D: [09:37] kfst (~kfst@dsl4E5C4032.pool.t-online.hu) joined ##slackware. [09:37] Your browser is no longer supported. [09:37] Please upgrade to a modern browser. [09:38] AlexElliott (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [09:38] riza: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/flash-player-plugin/ [09:38] That's exactly what I have installed months ago, I'll reinstall that. :D [09:38] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-22-7.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:39] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-26-164.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:40] ls /usr/lib/firefox-3.6/plugins/libflashplayer.so [09:41] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:41] ls -l /usr/lib/firefox-3.6/plugins/libflashplayer.so #Check the date [09:41] Hm, doesn't exist. [09:41] aaaaahhhhh [09:41] But problem is I can play every other flash videos and some youtube videos. [09:42] locate libflashplayer.so [09:42] mattallmill (~mattallmi@ip98-186-163-10.ks.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:42] /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so [09:43] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.141.122) joined ##slackware. [09:43] find /usr/lib/. -name libflashplayer.so -type f [09:44] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:45] ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so /usr/bib/firefox-3.6/plugins/ [09:45] Whoa. [09:45] Erm. Permission denied, let me susdo. [09:45] /usr/bib? [09:46] ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox-3.6/plugins/ [09:46] Typing mistake. [09:46] no, mozilla is the correct plugin location [09:46] dont symlink it [09:46] dive: Yea, thanks [09:46] typo [09:46] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [09:46] cp /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox-3.6/plugins/ [09:46] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [09:46] leave it where it is [09:46] just upgrade flash from sbo [09:47] and then see [09:47] Yes: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/flash-player-plugin/ [09:47] because the one in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins may be old anyway. [09:48] Ok, yea thanks for the correction(s) [09:50] paznak (~paznak@89-166-74-85.bb.dnainternet.fi) joined ##slackware. [09:51] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.141.122) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:51] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.78.68) left irc: Quit: ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet? [09:52] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [09:54] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:55] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [09:56] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-26-164.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:56] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [09:57] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-23-160.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:57] You know, I have never upgraded slackbuild and I don't want to tinker. So is there a guide out there? [09:59] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:00] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [10:00] or place libflashplayer.so in your ~/.mozilla/plugins, where it will persist through future FF updates [10:01] brbrbr (~basiley@89.208.116.17) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:01] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. [10:01] brbrbr (~basiley@89.208.116.17) joined ##slackware. [10:03] riza, sbopkg? [10:03] Upgrading sbopkg yep. [10:05] teckan (~teckan@bl6-249-17.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:08] Installed a custom kernel, and now the nvidia driver installer is "unable to determine the version of the kernel sources located in '/usr/src/linux'. [10:08] alphad64 (~quassel@41.207.31.57) joined ##slackware. [10:08] I remember someone saying something about a patch? [10:09] brbrbr (~basiley@89.208.116.17) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:09] Nick change: guax -> soul_of_guax [10:10] brbrbr (~basiley@89.208.116.17) joined ##slackware. [10:11] kr_eten (~quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [10:11] Nick change: soul_of_guax -> guax [10:12] plutonium (~plutonium@80.85.119.109) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [10:13] Thank you dive & terry_! [10:13] plutonium (~plutonium@80.85.119.109) joined ##slackware. [10:13] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [10:17] which vnc variant should I use for a linux terminal server? I need it to launch a predefined X session on client connection, and to not have any authentication (free access for everyone in the LAN). [10:18] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-216-022.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:20] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.47.59) joined ##slackware. [10:27] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-235.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [10:27] Reaver1 (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:27] AlexElliott__ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:27] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-23-160.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:28] anavel (~Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [10:28] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.84.4) joined ##slackware. [10:29] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-27-193.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:30] AlexElliott_ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [10:30] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:32] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [10:32] AlexElliott (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:33] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:34] Rossonero (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:34] usus12jari (~ashe@114.56.134.3) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [10:35] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:35] Rossonero (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [10:35] AlexElliott__ (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [10:40] Does the newest version of slack come with KDE 4? [10:40] Stable version [10:41] yes [10:41] yes, bot not the most recent one [10:41] 4.2.4 iirc, tho i may not [10:41] How can I install KDE 3.x apps in KDE 4.x? [10:41] >.< [10:41] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:42] <.> [10:42] That's an alien being annoyed [10:42] Azeotrope: the same way you install kde3 apps in xfce [10:43] pprkut: i don't know. never used xfce [10:44] or console, or fluxbox, or gnome, or $OTHER_ENVIRONMENT [10:44] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [10:44] in most cases you would probably use installpkg [10:45] except kde3.x apps may have issues with kde4.x libs :) [10:45] this is what I get when trying to compile the source: http://pastebin.org/116937 [10:45] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:46] alisonken1home: indeed, but that is not an installation issue ;) [10:46] slava_dp (~slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Quit: See you later [10:47] pprkut: no, but installpkg doesn't pull dependencies :) [10:47] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:47] Gulug (old-times@master.gulug.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:49] Gargantua (Gargantua@213.188.84.4) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:51] The server at www.slackware.com is taking too long to respond. [10:51] this a local issue or does others get the same? [10:51] same here [10:51] down from here [10:51] same here [10:53] o_O [10:53] palichis (~pali@200.25.197.106) joined ##slackware. [10:54] http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com [10:54] or whatever it is [10:55] who has hacked our beloved web site ? [10:55] what are you trying to get? [10:55] kloeri_ (kloeri@freenode/staff/exherbo.kloeri) joined ##slackware. [10:55] not connecting here [10:55] delayed [10:56] pings not returning [10:57] yht (~Yudha_HT@114.126.148.2) joined ##slackware. [10:57] I am wondering if pat has abandoned the project :s [10:57] heh [10:57] kloeri (kloeri@freenode/staff/exherbo.kloeri) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:57] why do I get this error? http://pastebin.org/116937 [10:58] I dont need to see the error to know the cause [10:58] there's soemthing wrong with the bone i think; in the last few days, i've noticed traceroute last 5 hops return only "* * *" [10:58] Zordrak: lol [10:58] kr_eten (~quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:59] Zordrak: what's that? [10:59] Azeotrope, my guess - that was looking for kde3 libs or the "x86_64-unknown" is killing it [11:00] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:00] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:01] allend (~allend@CPE-124-176-176-132.lns3.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:01] palichis (pali@200.25.197.106) left ##slackware. [11:01] alisonken1home: and how can I correct it? [11:02] :D [11:02] just pulled out a very nice slack wallpaper from some old archived shit [11:03] Azeotrope, do you have 32-bit multilib installed? [11:03] alisonken1home: yes [11:03] are you using the slackbuild? [11:03] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-27-193.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:03] Rossonero: I highly doubt that. Slackware is Pat's livelihood. [11:03] http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1380 [11:03] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-23-88.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:03] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [11:05] Azeotrope, did you try "ARCH=x86 tor.slackbuild" [11:06] alisonken1home: it's kde3, not (yet) multilib [11:06] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:06] alisonken1home: is not a slackbuild, it's tork, not tor. [11:06] Nick change: xchg_spi -> xchg [11:07] well, the only thing I can think of is do you have kde3 installed? if you have kde4 installed, then good luck [11:09] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:10] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.209) joined ##slackware. [11:11] alisonken1home: i have kde4 [11:12] AlexElliott (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:13] AlexElliott (~alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:13] KDE4 !- KDE3 [11:13] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-23-88.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:13] != [11:13] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-24-83.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:14] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:16] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [11:16] slackin (~slackin@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:17] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:17] tuxdev (hidden-use@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:17] slackin (~slackin@32.134.140.224) joined ##slackware. [11:19] so, there's any way i can install tork on slackware? [11:19] try slack 12.2? that still has kde3 installed [11:19] j0z (~lhp@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: [11:20] j0z (~lhp@187.59.8.253) joined ##slackware. [11:20] j0z (~lhp@187.59.8.253) left irc: Changing host [11:20] j0z (~lhp@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [11:21] slackin (slackin@32.134.140.224) left ##slackware. [11:22] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-160-81.w90-7.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:25] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:25] kde3 is available for 13.0 in unsupported iirc [11:26] and /extra, for those with incredibly sharp eyes [11:26] isnt that just compat libs~? [11:26] guy don t remember command to show mobo data [11:26] so? [11:26] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) joined ##slackware. [11:26] muh [11:26] brainvision: hi man are you there [11:28] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-24-83.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:28] syntax_error: dmidecode [11:29] Zordrak, thx just found it [11:29] brainvision (~brainvisi@host102-59-dynamic.55-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:30] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-26-58.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:31] alphad64 (~quassel@41.207.31.57) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:36] Zordrak, is there also a command to retrieve chipset _ [11:40] syntax_error, the second block in dmidecode should mobo, handle 0x0001 [11:41] if you take the version/model google might give chipset [11:41] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [11:44] R3un1a0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) joined ##slackware. [11:44] R3un1a0 (gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) left ##slackware. [11:44] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.75.5) joined ##slackware. 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[11:52] 11:54:40 up 5 days, 7:02, 5 users, load average: 0.68, 0.56, 0.54 [11:52] Yet when I do who and w, I only see 3 users. [11:52] Where did the other 2 go? D: [11:52] adaptr: everything can be used, it depends on the man behind the buttons really [11:52] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:52] and the type of support you need. [11:52] riza: what users does who show [11:52] is there an exhaustive comparison of distros used for servers? [11:53] anavel (~Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Quit: Real_Life(); [11:53] no [11:53] surrounder: fedora usually has 12-month or less release schedule. there are plenty of people who won't let that come near their mission-critical servers [11:53] adaptr: imaginable [11:53] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [11:53] And... changing console crashes my KDE. [11:54] fedora on servers is usually for the virtualization not available in RHEL [11:54] Azeotrope: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+server+distro+comparison [11:54] @ my job we use fedora as dev servers [11:54] agentc0re found another way to hassle me [11:54] Ooh, how can I kill dead process? [11:55] From who -d [11:56] I got mocked in an interview for using slackware as servers. He even laughed at me as well. His only reason, "Slackware just started using 2.6 kernel (he already had no idea what he was talking about). If Linus says 2.6 is ready, then it's [11:56] ready. Who is slackware to say it's not." Needless to say, i didn't take the job. [11:56] those are not dead, they are xorg [11:57] XGizzmo, are you talking to me? [11:57] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [11:57] yes [11:57] Oh, what do I do then? [11:57] nothing [11:57] :( But it's annoying being there. [11:57] I could just reset the computer but it wouuld kill my uptime. [11:58] interesting. I was asked if I knew what a dep package was, so explained what I knew about the package format. Plus they knew I liked slackware [11:58] Torrentow (~rafalkraw@klatka.org) joined ##slackware. [11:58] hello [11:58] still got the job - and they didn't say anything about slackware on servers - especially since I have one there now as well as my desktop :) [11:59] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [11:59] alisonken1home: the person interviewing me was a kid. im young, he was younger than myself. Just a little whipper snapper. Then i turned it around and asked him what his distro of choice was.... You'll never guess. [12:00] Ubuntu [12:00] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [12:00] Windows. [12:00] lol [12:00] no [12:00] Starts with an A [12:00] arch [12:00] Arch? [12:00] Apple. [12:00] riza: only 5 days? [12:00] Yup [12:00] Arch [12:00] alisonken1home, I do occasionally reboot to play games. :| [12:00] isn't arch kinda advanced? [12:00] arch is pretty nice [12:01] second best to slack tho [12:01] anavel (~Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [12:01] So yer saying Arch is actually.. [12:01] Bah. [12:01] riza: What games? [12:01] my slackware server at the office:08:39:29 up 93 days, 4:00, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 [12:01] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:01] So if he's using Arch but harping on me for using Slackware... I failed to see his logic. [12:01] really annoyed me. [12:01] my slackware desktop at the office: 09:02:28 up 22 days, 8:35, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 [12:01] heh - really [12:02] (arch indeed) [12:02] I get this erro while trying to install some packages with slackpkg:/usr/libexec/slackpkg/core-functions.sh: line 52: tput: command not found [12:02] http://codepad.org/pKjD6taw how to solv ? [12:02] nille_ (1000@c-83-233-249-34.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:02] What could be the problem? [12:02] Axius, #slackpkg [12:03] jkwood, Mass Effect. [12:03] Axius: Do you have ncurses installed? [12:03] alisonken1home: ok [12:04] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-26-58.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:04] Axius, you need ncurses package installed for slackpg to work [12:05] What other OSes would you recommend to play with? Inside a VM. [12:05] Haiku! \o/ [12:06] ALVAN: thank you. [12:06] Azeotrope: how about you stick with one and learn it first. baby steps, baby steps! [12:06] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-22-242.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[12:15] xsamurai (~fahad@69.43.199.101) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:15] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:16] Blue-Slacker (~blue@unaffiliated/blue-slacker) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:17] will 13.1 have KDE 4.4? [12:17] "maybe" [12:17] though it's not looking good [12:17] necrocow (~Necrocow@unaffiliated/necrocow) joined ##slackware. [12:17] does anyone know what porcess routinely checks the perms of /var/spool/mail/root and makes sure they are 600 ? [12:18] There are unofficial 4.4.1 packages for -current. [12:18] We can't say whether they'll go into -current until they actually do. [12:18] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [12:19] necrocow: I didn't think there was such a process. [12:19] it's because 4.4 needs polkit (OK), which currently needs pam (not ok) [12:19] er, 4.4 lacks features when not built against polkit [12:19] I read this article complaining about KDE 4.x in slackware 13 [12:19] xsamurai (~fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [12:20] http://linuxcritic.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/upgrading-from-kde-4-2-4-to-kde-3-5-10-in-slackware-13/ [12:20] BTW, isn't that downgrading? [12:20] There will always be people who complain because software went a new direction. They're entitled to their stupid opinion. [12:21] omg, Pat decided to update from a dead kde3 branch to the stable 4.2 branch? the horror [12:21] There is that. Unlike Debian, we prefer that the software in our Slackware is actually actively developed. [12:21] jkwood: hahaha i smell a quote somewhere. :P [12:22] noobfarm? [12:22] hahahha "They're entitled to their stupid opinion." jkwood, you made my morning. thanks. :D [12:22] Axius (~fd@109.97.48.159) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:24] illovae (~user@unaffiliated/illovae) joined ##slackware. [12:24] Action: jkwood refers everyone to the informative page at http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Debian [12:25] necrocow (Necrocow@unaffiliated/necrocow) left ##slackware. [12:25] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:26] heya o/ [12:26] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:35] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:208:21a:80ff:fee1:9f75) joined ##slackware. [12:35] jkwood: lmao!! that's great. [12:35] two empty can's for network connection. [12:36] epaphus (~name@190.10.68.228) joined ##slackware. [12:37] Hey guys, how can I list and disable the cdrom driver (blacklist it) ? [12:37] jkwood: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Slackware [12:38] lsmod doesnt really help me.. [12:39] agentc0re: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/AAAAAAAAA! [12:44] illovae (~user@unaffiliated/illovae) left irc: Quit: ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs) [12:44] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-25-157.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:44] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:44] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [12:44] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-25-43.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:44] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [12:45] NaCl: lol [12:47] __marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [12:48] epaphus (~name@190.10.68.228) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [12:48] StandardSocket (~189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-jutwcfifbipmilaf) joined ##slackware. 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[12:59] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [13:03] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-25-43.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:04] epaphus2 (~name@190.10.68.228) joined ##slackware. [13:04] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-25-45.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:04] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [13:04] nader (~nader___@84.241.19.185) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:05] Asido (~asido@lan-84-240-5-116.vln.skynet.lt) joined ##slackware. [13:06] sec0nd (~second@unaffiliated/sec0nd) joined ##slackware. [13:06] epaphus (~name@static.204.79.46.78.clients.your-server.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:06] anyone could recommend me a software which i could use for recording audio/video from microphone/webcam? [13:07] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [13:07] is there an encryption program similar to encfs that will encrypt files on the fly but to a directory? [13:08] biker (~biker@200.38.22.93.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) joined ##slackware. [13:08] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [13:08] PenPerkInc (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:09] yht (~Yudha_HT@114.126.148.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:09] sec0nd: truecrypt [13:09] you can encrypt files and store them to a volume. [13:10] sec0nd, configure a directory as a mounted luks file [13:11] john_dee (~id@93-81-142-52.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:12] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:12] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:12] should I upgrade to the newest stable kernel? [13:12] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-25-45.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:13] admboom: and Azeotrope I want something that will have an expanding and descring size for when I add and delete files... don't want a fixed size [13:13] if I need more space I can't resize truecrypt and cryptsetup is annoying to resize [13:13] Azeotrope: Do you have a compelling reason for doing so? [13:13] jkwood: my VirtualBox guest OSes don't have sound [13:14] tommys_knockers (~sisssss@212.183.140.51) joined ##slackware. [13:14] can that be related to the kernel? [13:14] Probably not, imo. [13:14] anyone use tor ? [13:14] tommys_knockers: me [13:15] sec0nd, gpg -d although key management would be a pain [13:15] sec0nd: truecrypt has dynamic volumes [13:15] Azeotrope, do you use ControlPort 9051 ? [13:15] er gpg -c [13:15] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-213-113.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:15] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:208:21a:80ff:fee1:9f75) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:15] Azeotrope: last time I checked they didn't [13:15] tommys_knockers: no [13:16] sec0nd: I am 100% it has. I use it [13:16] ok aparently if you uncoment this line you can telnet it and get info of the nodes your using but i cant seem to telnet it [13:16] like a permissions issue [13:17] sec0nd: if you're using USB drives [13:17] sec0nd: it's only for ntfs afaik [13:17] nah I need something better [13:17] I don't trust ntfs anymore... lost to much data [13:17] luks is standard for linux [13:18] bulletz (~kerbau@read.rgs.edu.sg) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:18] tommys_knockers: how? telnet and fingerprint? or what? [13:18] _guitarman_ (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.121.200) joined ##slackware. [13:19] yeah i was told telnet or nc [13:19] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] tommys_knockers: do you use vidalia or tork? [13:19] i use privoxy and tor [13:19] Reaver1 (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:19] vidalia requires qt4 [13:19] Azeotrope: Have you checked the settings in the VMs themselves to ensure that sound support is enabled? [13:19] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:19] ive never tried tork though [13:20] jkwood: yes, they all show that the sound is ok. [13:20] tommys_knockers: no GUI? how do you change the exit nodes? can you select one from a specific country? [13:20] Azeotrope: What Host Audio Driver are you using? [13:20] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] jkwood: ALSA. [13:21] Hmm... well, that should work then. [13:22] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [13:22] 'morning [13:22] jkwood: well, it's not... [13:23] ill give you a link i found Azeotrope 1 min [13:23] biker (~biker@200.38.22.93.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:23] Azeotrope, https://www.torproject.org/faq#ChooseEntryExit [13:24] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:24] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-28-200.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:25] tommys_knockers: thanks! [13:25] np [13:26] nader_ (~nader___@84.241.20.7) joined ##slackware. [13:26] Nick change: nader_ -> nader [13:27] syntax_error (~sineror@host239-112-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:29] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-28-200.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:29] Nick change: mfreenet -> mikee [13:29] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-132.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:30] Nick change: mikee -> mfreenet [13:30] Nick change: mfreenet -> mikee [13:32] Nick change: mikee -> mfreenet [13:32] can I have both ALSA and pulseaudio? [13:32] bacet (~justin@unaffiliated/bacet) joined ##slackware. [13:33] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:33] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:34] anyone know why the scroll back buffer in bash is so jacked up......trying to edit previous long lines is like impossible [13:34] is ecryptfs in slackware 13? and if so where can i find it? [13:35] sec0nd: did you try man cryptdir [13:36] Nick change: mfreenet -> mikee [13:37] http://www.catonmat.net/blog/top-ten-one-liners-from-commandlinefu-explained/ [13:38] sec0nd: cryptsetup? [13:39] Azeotrope: not resizable [13:40] jonathas (~jonathas@200.160.111.63) joined ##slackware. [13:41] Azeotrope: not easily shrunk [13:41] StandardSocket: I needs to be on the fly [13:42] sec0nd: only way to do that is with an encrypted partition [13:42] or loopback [13:42] biker (~biker@200.38.22.93.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] nader (~nader___@84.241.20.7) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [13:43] StandardSocket: encfs [13:43] effy11 (~d56b3615@gateway/web/freenode/x-iebzrncmwlazjkcs) joined ##slackware. [13:44] or better yet [13:44] ecryptfs [13:45] is this safe to use? [13:45] http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-13.0/security/ecryptfs-utils/79/ [13:45] can I ask a hardware question? [13:45] alreadygone: ask don't ask to ask [13:45] thanks, if you were to buy a hard disk (your current hard disks are full), which one would you prefer: SATA (with MOLEX converter), PATA or external USB? If External USB, then which one, a Flash disk type, or the one with motor.... etc [13:46] I like SATA and I don't know about the rest :P [13:46] My power supply does not have a proper SATA power connector, so i'll have to use the converter: http://www.mini-box.com/SATA-Hard-Drive-Power-Cable [13:46] ok sec0nd [13:46] ok, within my x86_64 install of slackware I installed a chrooted 32 bit install of slackware. If I try to run configure on any source packages while chrooted in that 32 bit environment, it keeps coming up with checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu [13:46] there was some way to force it to realize that this isn't the 64 bit environment I'm working in, but I can't remember for hte life of me [13:46] anybody know how this is done again? [13:47] alreadygone: I would prefer SATA. [13:48] thanks Mel-nix, so, what about the third voltage of 3.3 V in a proper SATA power connector? in addition to the traditional 5 V and 12 V. Just wondering. [13:48] john_dee (~id@95-29-187-134.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:48] forget it... that's not a question to be asking here [13:48] sorry [13:48] thanks [13:49] http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-13.0/security/ecryptfs-utils/79/ [13:49] is that safe? [13:50] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [13:52] sec0nd: the only recommended source of additional scripts/packages is slackbuilds.org, alienBOBs packages, rworkmans packages. either than that check the script yourself and decide [13:53] effy11 (~d56b3615@gateway/web/freenode/x-iebzrncmwlazjkcs) left irc: Quit: Page closed [13:54] anybody know how to disable my cdrom capabilities without disabling the scsi driver because i need it for my hard disk? [13:55] jonathas (~jonathas@200.160.111.63) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:55] _nmap (~fsilva@201.86.34.184.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:56] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-kaykcfjqjazffzom) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:56] nik0 (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) joined ##slackware. [13:56] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:56] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:56] has anyone installed the HP proliant support pack on slackware? and is there any use of it? [13:57] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [13:57] jeffroman (~jeffroman@166.137.9.196) joined ##slackware. [13:57] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [13:58] jeffroman (~jeffroman@166.137.9.196) left irc: Client Quit [13:58] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ultzhsqxmxmkpnpv) joined ##slackware. [13:59] Nick change: nik0 -> niko [13:59] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-132.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:00] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-28-6.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:00] epaphus2, unplug the cdrom? [14:01] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-112-121.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:02] nader (~nader___@84.241.19.234) joined ##slackware. [14:03] epaphus2: I have not followed the latter part of your question. [14:04] Mel-nix, iam just looking to not physically detach the cdrom unit.. but rather leave it connected to the MoBo and have the OS disable it [14:04] only the cdrom [14:04] nader_ (~nader___@84.241.19.234) joined ##slackware. [14:04] epaphus2: Ah. You can disable it from the BIOS. [14:04] epaphus2: have root mount it at boot, so no one can eject it? [14:05] mount it to /tmp/BLORGGGGGG [14:05] wertik_ (~wertik@95-26-112-121.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:05] StandardSocket, nice hack.. isnt there a cleaner way ehhehe [14:05] Mel-nix, tried that... the bios doesnt have so many options [14:05] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:06] modprobe -r ? [14:06] epaphus2: edit /etc/fstab and uncomment/screw up the cdrom line.. lots of ways to "disable" it i guess [14:06] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-23-148.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:07] epaphus2: Does your BIOS not have an option to disable "Primary Master, Slave" etc.? [14:07] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-28-6.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:07] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [14:08] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-112-121.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:09] effy11 (~d56b3615@gateway/web/freenode/x-zhikjpcouvydjsky) joined ##slackware. [14:09] the slackware.com KDE3 packages are really slow [14:09] Nick change: wertik_ -> wertik_rus [14:10] Kaapa (~Something@bl9-249-172.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:11] effy11: so...use KDE4 ? [14:11] Kaapa (~Something@bl10-232-172.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:11] I would but it's killing my laptop [14:11] :( [14:11] BrokenCog (~Daniel@125.213.207.141) joined ##slackware. [14:12] effy11: Why not use XFCE? [14:12] syntax_error (~sineror@host150-73-dynamic.25-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:12] StandardSocket: open the tray, put something in it so it can't close [14:12] I dunno [14:12] Camarade_Tux: LOL. [14:12] Are we having problems with the cup holder ? [14:12] guys I just installed Nvidia driver no hints to better font anti-aliasing ? [14:13] glue the drive shut [14:13] anyone know offhand how to ensure all users default to xfce4 under kdm? [14:14] raendeer: change the xinitrc symlink in /etc/X11/xinit ? [14:14] nille_ (1000@c-83-233-249-34.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [14:14] default is twm apparently? [14:15] biker_ (~biker@201.170.197.66.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) joined ##slackware. [14:15] how do i change to XFCE? [14:15] xwmconfig as your user [14:15] xwmconfig [14:15] biker (~biker@200.38.22.93.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:17] <_nmap> hi, how can i know the path of a usb pen drive? I want to mount it but i have no idea where ... [14:17] effy11: Alternately, you can access it from pkgtool(8). [14:17] nmap, dmesg [14:17] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:18] biker__ (~biker@201.170.59.245.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) joined ##slackware. [14:18] has this compiler option been removed from the the 2.6.32.4 kernel: CONFIG_DEBUG_SECTION_MISMATCH [14:19] nader_ (~nader___@84.241.19.234) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:19] nader (~nader___@84.241.19.234) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [14:19] it's not in .33.x [14:20] how do I unrar multiple rar files? rar. r01, r02.. [14:21] mancha: 33 and beyond i take it you mean ? [14:21] biker_ (~biker@201.170.197.66.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [14:21] Broken, no i have no idea where they dropped it if they did [14:21] <_nmap> mancha, thanks man. [14:21] Azeo, you unrar the head honcho file, it'll handle the parts [14:22] Azeotrope: Just use unrar(1). There is a SlackBuild script available. [14:22] Mel-nix: thanks [14:22] DURgod (~DURgod@24-236-174-174.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Quit: DURgod [14:22] Azeotrope: Welcome. [14:22] Broken, did you try make CONFIG_DEBUG_SECTION_MISMATCH=y ? [14:23] i think it's a command line option you can pass to make but not a configuration option you can toggle [14:23] _nmap welcome [14:23] Action: jg71 waits for CONFIG_DEBUG_PLEASE_DONTBREAK=y [14:24] i dont think it ever worked properly :P [14:24] mancha: i'm building it now, but i haven't seen any different warnings or errors so i was wondering if it was still active. [14:25] wait for the MODPOSTs [14:25] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:25] i'm not even sure what' it's intended to do. [14:25] also one would hope those mismatches are reducing in number as the kernel versions go up [14:25] is it some how fixing mismatches ? or just warning about them ? [14:25] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [14:25] syntax_error (~sineror@host150-73-dynamic.25-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:25] reducing in number ... uh huh. that's the hope *:). [14:25] just letting you know how fucked upi your system is [14:26] Jiraia (~Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::56bb) joined ##slackware. [14:26] has anyone here built an archival system? [14:27] Skywise: What's an archival system? [14:28] a system to store, index and retrieve files and media for an organization, much like an electronic library [14:28] Skywise: Thanks. [14:29] has anyone installed the HP proliant support pack on slackware? and is there any use of it? [14:29] Skywise: sounds pretty straight forward! [14:29] Ivshti (~ivo@77.76.50.154) joined ##slackware. [14:29] StandardSocket, you'd be sorely mistaken [14:30] its a very complex and subtle problem [14:30] Skywise: purely dependent on archive size [14:31] if a few TB per year, trivial [14:31] its use is the primary issue [14:31] if a few TB per day, and to be available online, very very hard [14:31] putting things in a pile is trivial, making it useful is another story [14:31] in that case, yes, i have built an archival system [14:32] you could consider it a document management system with document versioning [14:32] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-216-022.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:32] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:32] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-216-022.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:33] then call it that. a single tgz piped to /dev/null is an archival system... [14:33] lol [14:33] DURgod (~DURgod@24-236-174-174.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:34] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.121.200) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:34] nah i have pdfs, images, text files, html files, png files, flv files, etc indexed...and functions to convert between formats [14:34] reeve (~reeve@p5B13AAC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [14:34] hi [14:35] text -> mp3, video -> audio, video-> pngs, pdfs -> text, html -> png, etc [14:35] Asido (~asido@lan-84-240-5-116.vln.skynet.lt) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:35] Axius (~fd@109.97.60.215) joined ##slackware. [14:36] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [14:36] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [14:36] thats cool, you do you use abstracts or thesauruses? [14:36] for indexing you might try the apache built in indexer...im using mnogosearch [14:37] nah [14:38] do you standardize on formats for media type? [14:38] or do you just collect everything [14:38] Asido (~asido@lan-84-240-5-116.vln.skynet.lt) joined ##slackware. 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[14:42] theres media players out now that can't playback mp2 files [14:42] converting between formats will lose quality [14:42] i think it depends on the conversion [14:43] but some will sufffer [14:43] likely all [14:43] pal into ntsc [14:43] anything with differing frame rates will have an issue [14:43] but other formats shouldn't [14:44] nader_ (~nader___@84.241.19.71) joined ##slackware. [14:46] effy11 (~d56b3615@gateway/web/freenode/x-zhikjpcouvydjsky) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:48] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-244.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:49] guys, i did slapt-get --update on 13.0 version and i see that it retrieved 12.0 links [14:49] it should be like this? [14:49] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-18-19.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:51] Asido: double check the mirrors file - ensure you have the correct source uncommented. [14:51] why on earth would that be normal? [14:52] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:55] Nick change: wertik_rus -> ss4098 [14:57] SOURCE=ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-12.0/ [14:57] SOURCE=http://software.jaos.org/slackpacks/12.0/ [14:57] thrice`: it's normal because slapt-get always does things the wrong way [14:57] this is my source, so i must change to 13.0, right? :) [14:58] 1) don't use slackware.com's ftp. 2) don't use 12.0 if you're on 13.0 . [14:58] 3) don't use slapt-get [14:58] why 3)? [14:58] tobyl (~tobyl@host81-155-188-161.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:58] why would you use 3? [14:59] er, why would you use slapt-get [14:59] yeh, why don't use it? :) [14:59] nader_ (~nader___@84.241.19.71) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [14:59] cause its not part of [14:59] Slackware [14:59] why don't you use slackpkg, which is the official tool, and comes with slackware? [15:00] Asido: When you could have easily used rsync(1)! [15:04] so slackpkg mainly has the same features as slapt-get? [15:04] except those who are not working in slapt-get anyway [15:05] Well, slackpkg only works with official Slackware packages. While slapt-get works with any number of 3rd party repositories as well [15:06] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [15:09] does slackware have PAM? I don't think it does but someone else said it did. [15:09] qneo (~knao@adsl-d12.84-47-86.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [15:09] sec0nd: no. [15:10] :D [15:10] sec0nd, the answer, _sadly_ is "no" [15:10] Do I need to recompile the kernel to install PAM? [15:10] pam is for non stick pans and has no place in an os [15:11] sec0nd, no pam is userland. [15:11] sec0nd: no [15:11] :D [15:11] sec0nd, but alot of other goodies would need rebuilding [15:11] sec0nd: if you need PAM, you may have to reconsider distro [15:12] jonathanr (~vcbnxn@88-107-142-199.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [15:13] vkng (~toor@189.107.67.37) joined ##slackware. [15:13] BrokenCog (~Daniel@125.213.207.141) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:14] awww but slackware is nice [15:14] anything like slackware that has PAM and keeps me in control just as much? [15:14] bsd [15:15] lol [15:15] I want linux [15:15] sec0nd: why don't you add PAM to slackware yourself [15:15] like everyone else [15:15] just compile pam, then precompile shadow, than gdm, and stuff [15:15] I suggest you try arch anyway [15:16] Ivshti: you did what? [15:16] sec0nd: just added PAM and precompiled my shadow package [15:16] sec0nd: and my gdm package (I use gnome) [15:16] how did you precompile? [15:17] sec0nd: byt there are other things that you can precompile with pam support [15:17] the bash guys seem to think that the default slackware PS1 prompt in /etc/profile is incorrect...i tend to agree with them [15:17] sec0nd: you download the source of the shadow package (the whole directory), remove the no-shadow patch, then remove it from the slackbuild, then precompile [15:17] because when i use the fedora PS1 prompt, my editing of previous lines isnt an excercize in futility [15:17] besides why not use sasl [15:17] sec0nd: here you are: http://linvo.org/repository/linvo-2010.3/linvo/a/ check the shadow and pam packages [15:18] but be careful not to mess something up. if it doesn't login, you must enter through another root and reinstall the shadow package with ROOT=...mountpoint... upgradepkg ..old shadow package.. [15:18] if you are not sure what are you doing don't try it [15:19] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:19] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:20] mk [15:20] what are the advantages of pam anyway? [15:21] pam 1.0.3??? isn't that ancient? [15:21] bye [15:21] reeve (~reeve@p5B13AAC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:21] sec0nd: they were supposed to ask that before designing the system [15:21] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-18-19.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:21] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-29-124.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:21] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [15:22] BrokenCog (~Daniel@125.213.207.141) joined ##slackware. [15:22] Asido (~asido@lan-84-240-5-116.vln.skynet.lt) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:22] -.- [15:22] StandardSocket: so I know pam authenticates users but how's that help me with encryption [15:23] Ivshti: also when you say precompliled you actually mean compiled. precompiled means something thats been previously compiled [15:23] sec0nd: no clue [15:23] sahko: shadow is alredy compiled [15:23] *already [15:23] _LATEST_IS_Linux-PAM-1.1.1 [15:23] recompiled [15:23] i don't think there is an advantage to pam, but it came about from a need for single authentication and access to multiple services [15:24] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:24] Linux-PAM-1.0.3.tar.bz2 09-Dec-2008 <-- so I guess thrice` is right, that's pretty ancient. [15:24] Ivshti: yeah but you said take the sources and precompile it. thats wrong [15:24] pam doesn't help encryption, it relies on it [15:24] sahko: basically, you use the original sources, without the no-pam patch [15:24] -.- [15:24] paranoid authentication modules? [15:25] so if I mount an encrypted folder using pam where is the password derived from? [15:25] probably your shadow [15:25] Ivshti: i dont like pam. i just corrected your wording. [15:26] sahko: ok [15:26] patrick doesn't like pam. does that make you a fanboi ? [15:26] patrick likes beer. i dont [15:26] a teetotal fanboi :) [15:26] i drink beer, havent tried loving it yet [15:27] its messy [15:27] adaptr: a lose-lose situation :) [15:27] indeed [15:27] hmmmm [15:28] anyone else keep their data read-only unless adding to it? [15:28] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-29-124.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:29] no [15:29] no [15:29] i remember someone saying that the wicd that came with slack13 was broken... was there a problem with wpa_supplicant too? [15:29] i always have to remount,rw :D [15:29] i don't like having to chmod +w when needing to write [15:29] no i do it with mounts [15:29] still don't like it [15:29] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-165.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:29] especially when i'm reminded it was ro while trying to save it [15:30] ^ [15:30] i make backup copies of things i wanna keep [15:30] ^ [15:30] jeev, YUOR PPAERS, PASLEE! [15:30] Necos: dont think so. NaCl is the one saying wicd 1.6.2 has a serious bug though i dont remember what it is exactly [15:30] always always backup the pr0n [15:30] Necos: I use wpa_supplicant in 13.0 every day [15:31] trying to find a guide on how to setup wpa2 on my laptop here, but haven't found any simple guides yet [15:31] wasn't there a problem with seeing hidden networks in 1.6.2? [15:32] yeah, that bug i saw in ubuntu on my friend's laptop [15:32] jonathanr (~vcbnxn@88-107-142-199.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: [15:32] Jiraia_ (~Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::56bb) joined ##slackware. [15:32] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:32] yeah it accidentally showed the ssids of hidden networks [15:33] Necos: have you seen http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network ? [15:33] Jiraia (~Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::56bb) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:33] Necos: I think the network I'm on is just wpa, not wpa2.. dunno how to tell the difference [15:33] Necos: the key_mgmt in my conf is just WPA-PSK [15:33] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-146-250.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [15:33] vkng (~toor@189.107.67.37) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:33] ah [15:33] trone (~sim@host58-56-dynamic.55-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:33] 1.6.2.1 was buggy, got fixed in 1.6.2.2 [15:33] trhodes, nope, i missed that one! [15:34] bgeddy (~ed@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:39] Nick change: Jiraia_ -> jiraia [15:40] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:40] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) joined ##slackware. [15:44] hmmm, since my wireless card is detected as eth1, do i still need to use the WLAN variables in rc.inet1? or can i just modify them to match eth1? [15:45] cd /etc/openvpn/fw/ [15:45] shit [15:45] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [15:45] lol [15:47] Rossonero (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:47] Rossonero (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [15:48] epaphus2 (~name@190.10.68.228) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:49] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.209) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [15:50] qneo (knao@adsl-d12.84-47-86.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [15:51] mikee (~mikee@2a01:270:0:ffff:ffff:90b2:0:2) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:51] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:52] mikee (~mikee@2a01:270:0:ffff:ffff:90b2:0:2) joined ##slackware. [15:53] rv2733 (rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [15:53] Howdy. [15:54] hi [15:54] hullo [15:57] holla [16:00] sweet! got it to work :) [16:00] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:01] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [16:01] straterra (~straterra@fuhell.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:01] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-165.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:01] init[1] (buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:01] vkng (~toor@189.107.67.37) joined ##slackware. [16:02] init[1] (buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [16:02] Afternoon Alan_Hicks. [16:02] straterra (~straterra@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [16:02] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-99.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:04] What's goin' on? [16:05] necrocow (~Necrocow@unaffiliated/necrocow) joined ##slackware. [16:06] hi XGizzmo and Alan_Hicks [16:06] its almost the weekend [16:06] epaphus2 (~name@static.204.79.46.78.clients.your-server.de) joined ##slackware. [16:06] yar [16:06] Yeah, and thank God tomorrow's payday. [16:07] hmm I like slackware but I'm thinking about archlinux [16:07] ..... [16:07] i remember having a payday [16:07] Action: sec0nd doesn't know what to do [16:07] sec0nd: .. install arch somewhere and give it a whilr. [16:08] I've found that it is procmail that does the "Enforcing stricter permissions" on mail boxes when incoming mail is being delivered to someone's mail box. Would anyone know how to change/modify this behavior? Thanks [16:08] Skywise: If business doesn't pick up soon, I might remember having paydays as well. [16:08] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-30-39.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:09] when 13.1 will be here, how will I upgrade? is there a script or I have to do it manually? [16:09] Alan_Hicks, i don't think the economy has completely turned around, different parts are going in different directions [16:09] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-99.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:09] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [16:09] Skywise: It hasn't even begun to turn around. [16:10] It won't turn around until small businesses gain some confidence. Right now, they're scared to death of what the Obama administration is planning, so they're not willing to risk any expansion at all right now. [16:10] Alan_Hicks, i have clients spending money and one has asked me to setup a jobs bulletin board [16:10] mikee (~mikee@2a01:270:0:ffff:ffff:90b2:0:2) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [16:11] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:11] Alan_Hicks, personally, i'm still waiting for the 2nd half of the mortgage failure to happen [16:11] prices are still unsustainably high [16:11] we're heading exactly where the Occult wants [16:11] defaults are too [16:11] mikee (~mikee@2a01:270:0:ffff:ffff:90b2:0:2) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Skywise: I'm not anticipating any major fault in realestate again for awhile. [16:12] research has shown that housing prices over 3x the median income are not sustainable, even back to medieval times [16:12] we're at 5 to 6x right now [16:13] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:13] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-30-39.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:13] it consumes too much income and damages the owner ability to spend on other items needed to sustain the economy [16:14] not many people go out to dinner after foreclosure [16:14] why not ? may be their last chance in some time [16:14] lol [16:14] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [16:14] staying in could shorten that length of time [16:14] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-235.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:15] not significantly [16:15] all depends, if you could of used that money for rent, it might [16:16] we're talking about ONE dinner [16:16] and you're not renting [16:16] and no more money [16:16] well, you gotta live somewhere after foreclosure, i don't think you're allowed to stay [16:17] "no more money" ? seriously ? how long have you had this house ? a year ? then you bought way too dear.... [16:17] people have done worse then that [16:17] necrocow (Necrocow@unaffiliated/necrocow) left ##slackware. [16:18] Yeah, I'm still not anticipating a big crash, but a slow settling of prices over several years. [16:18] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:18] i saw a story in the paper about 1 couple who made a combined 50k a year, pay $500k for a 2 bedroom shotgun house that sold for $150 the previous year [16:18] 150k [16:18] mikee (~mikee@2a01:270:0:ffff:ffff:90b2:0:2) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [16:18] that would merely make them stupid [16:18] and theres alot of people in that boat [16:19] Skywise: Yeah, those people are dumb. [16:19] because they all got sub prime balloon loans [16:19] Yeah. Those people are dumb. :^) [16:19] they can pay the 1100/mo but when it balloons in 2 years to 5000/mo then they default [16:20] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [16:20] the current foreclosure rate is also inaccurate [16:20] most if not all mortgage holders aren't foreclosing because they don't wanna spend the money on the legal procedure and upkeep and selling the property [16:21] um.. they were REALLY dumb [16:21] dude, thats not dumb, thats criminal [16:21] everyone in that transaction was stealing [16:21] no, it's dumb - they should have taken fixed interests [16:21] the lender, the buyer, the seller, the inspector [16:21] even the broker [16:22] that whole thing never should of happened [16:22] nvision (~nvision@g226061033.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:22] but everyone was stealing from the other [16:22] no.. from the owners, everyone was stealing from the owners [16:22] the owners were the biggest crooks [16:22] Yeah. Those people are dumb. :^) << what can we do about this? nothing let them shake their asses in their own sh*t [16:23] then they deserve to pay 5000/m [16:23] they got the money and ran with a 400k profit, the rest are figuring out how to pay [16:23] No sense in calling anyone criminal over it. [16:23] Tusk: Damn straight. [16:23] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [16:23] mfreenet (~mikee@2a01:270:0:ffff:ffff:90b2:0:2) joined ##slackware. [16:23] If some one is willing to give you half a million dollars for one of your turds, wouldn't you sell it? [16:23] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [16:23] it is criminal [16:23] depends.. does it smell really good ? [16:23] no, there would have to be something wrong [16:24] Skywise: How is it criminal? [16:24] nessundorma (~mike@78.134.120.82) joined ##slackware. [16:24] something wrong ? how so? [16:24] everything was misrepresented [16:24] its fraud [16:24] fraud? if they're happy to pay it's not [16:24] a 150k shack doesn't appreciate to 500k in 1 year [16:25] if so, then it's actionable. careful what you call fraud, the legislature is not simple [16:25] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] no, thats not the definition of fraud [16:25] Skywise: yes, it is, factually [16:25] people who make 50k can't afford a mortgage on a 500k house [16:25] it would be fraud if they were not getting what they paid for - and they paid for a house [16:25] first time I ever shaw someone call a 150K house a shack heh [16:26] there wasn't anything legitimate about the deal [16:26] NyteOwl, you should see the picture [16:26] raendeer (~raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:26] k :) [16:26] it was obscene [16:26] a 150k shack? you can't even get a home for 150k in socal :) [16:27] the buyers were crooked thinking they had this half a million dollar house they could turn around and sell for a huge profit later on [16:27] shacks > homes [16:27] piece on the news here the other day. a fellow in New Brunswick's property was assessed at $55k alst year. It's assessment fior this year is almost $150k (tax assessment) with no renovations, changes in the neighbourhood etc. that's 9nsane [16:27] thats a local gov't strapped for cash [16:28] but thats a whole nuther issue, is why gov'ts budgets grow with their income and not demand [16:28] Skywise: How was it misrepresented? You need to give specifics here. While I'm sure there were cases of fraud going on, fraud by itself doesn't explain the enormous bubble. [16:28] Nick change: ss4098 -> wertik_rus [16:29] Alan_Hicks, the price for the property wasn't justified by any means, the buyers weren't suitable by any means, all the professionals who stood to profit from the transaction abdicated their fiduciary duties in order to get their commission [16:30] did they even see the shack ? [16:30] yes, they infact lived in it [16:30] lemme see if i can find an article on it [16:31] I still say they were Paris Hilton level stupid [16:31] _I_ do personaly know what i can afford.... if i'm willing to make my wife work on the street to pay a ferrari am i suppose to blame someone?? [16:31] bacet (~justin@unaffiliated/bacet) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:31] Yes [16:31] your wife, if she doesn't please you sufficiently at night [16:31] Blame your wife for not making enough to get you a better car than a Ferrari [16:32] hehe [16:32] well one of the key tools in the deception was qualifying the mortgage by the lowest pre-balloon rate of the arm [16:33] Tusk: Exactly. [16:34] but if someone sells you a yugo with ferrari decals and your mechanic and banker says its a good deal, theres a crime involved there [16:35] No there isn't [16:35] nope if i'm dumb enough to don't recognize a yugo [16:35] The crime is that you have lousy connections [16:35] lol [16:35] oO(What the hell is a yugo) [16:35] don't be so literal [16:35] i think i really depends on what you paid for the yugo [16:35] hehe [16:35] The phrase 'buyers beware' come to mind [16:35] agris (~agris@pasts.blondais.lv) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:36] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430563.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:36] thats not the case in real estate where there are professionals paid to evaluate and value the property accuately [16:36] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430563.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:36] Tusk: a Yugoslavian car that had a 3 cylinder engine. Couldn't pull a sick whore off a piss pot and rusted out in a year or two [16:36] Skywise: It's only a crime if the mechanic and banker are smart enough not to be deceived as well. [16:36] It's possibile to put dhcpcd in the background until the system is started? [16:37] NyteOwl: oh looks nice :P [16:37] agris (~agris@pasts.blondais.lv) joined ##slackware. [16:37] worse than a Laada [16:37] er Lada [16:37] Axius: & [16:37] its funny theres a generation that doesn't know about the yugo [16:37] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-216-022.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:37] they were slab sided and poorly constructed [16:37] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:37] they've even been blown off bridges [16:38] they're only real feature was that they were dirt cheap [16:38] Tusk: ok [16:38] which somehow appropriate [16:38] and they weren't even worth what they cost [16:38] which is hard to do with something that actually move [16:38] nope [16:38] s [16:38] lada was invulnerable [16:39] stil is [16:39] Lada were hit or miss. most were crap but if you got a good one they were a great little car [16:39] yugos leaked oil in the dealership [16:40] anyone had a problem with audacious just stopping in the middle of a song ? [16:41] Action: Tusk isn't using audacious since ages [16:41] Action: nessundorma isn't using audacious since xmms is back [16:41] doesnt happen very often but annoying [16:41] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:42] its cheaper and more poorly built then a citroen cv [16:42] xmms is back ? [16:42] you should graph your cpu and disk i/o [16:42] did it leave [16:42] agris (~agris@pasts.blondais.lv) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [16:43] tommys_knockers: yes, it was unmantained for a bit [16:43] ...and substitued by audacious [16:43] to me unmaintained means its finished [16:43] otherwise someone would be working on it [16:43] agris (~agris@pasts.blondais.lv) joined ##slackware. [16:43] oh right im might go back to xmms then [16:43] or xmms2 [16:44] peacenik (~root@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:44] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [16:44] probably there were some bugs in xmms' plugins [16:44] nessundorma, so it happened to you aswell ? [16:44] i'm using mpd [16:44] tommys_knockers: no. not in xmms. [16:45] is there anyway you can increase the playback buffers to like 5 or 10 secs [16:45] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:45] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:45] mpd|pdw [16:45] trying it made me leave any xmms/audacious like players [16:45] then you shouldn't have any interruption if the system gets busy [16:45] tommys_knockers: I was saying: "if Pat removed xmms from slackware, it was probably because of a bug in the plugins" [16:45] i only lightweight music player [16:46] ALVAN (~galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:46] only want* [16:46] mpd is the most lightweight player out there [16:46] so i bought a wee little ide i/f card so i can fix my lappy hd using the big bix. [16:46] cmus is maintained again [16:46] bix/box [16:46] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-112-121.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:46] whats cmus? [16:46] cmus >> * [16:46] gui Tusk ? [16:46] cmus.sf.net [16:46] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-235.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:46] tommys_knockers: use the one you prefer [16:46] unresponsive :) [16:47] boobles [16:47] boobies [16:47] hmm [16:47] i prefer audacious but but think it's time for a change [16:47] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-30-178.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:48] an ncurses front end for mplayer (cmus style) would be nice [16:48] i do use gmpc as gui [16:48] do you guys use media libraries?/ [16:48] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [16:48] mostly controling daemon play/pause/next/etc with keystrokes [16:48] Tusk can you stream with it ? [16:48] yes [16:48] i use the mplayer's kit [16:48] MPD is full featured :) [16:49] i got about 50gb of music and right now i index it with a windows app that i use cause its integrated with my car stereo [16:49] epaphus2 (~name@static.204.79.46.78.clients.your-server.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:49] bummer [16:49] thats in slackbuilds isnt it ? [16:49] agris (~agris@pasts.blondais.lv) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:49] it is [16:49] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-147-234-246.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: ¬ [16:49] build ffmpeg before [16:49] get mplayers' stuff from the homepage [16:49] trhodes: agreed. there is one i think but it needs some weird perl modules to work [16:49] phatnoise media manager is cool if you have a kenwood head unit with usb support [16:49] it will give you a wider range of codec supports [16:49] almost all :D [16:50] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-147-234-246.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:50] tommys_knockers: the only thing to remember is tagging correctly your music collection [16:50] it generates voice cues for the songs, so it can read out titles, artists, genre and other details when searching thur music [16:50] agris (~agris@mail.biko.lv) joined ##slackware. [16:51] nick4 (~fffeop@62.1.63.4.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:51] without gui you mean Tusk ? [16:51] oh i see [16:51] tommys_knockers: mpd is keeping a database of your collection [16:51] sorting it is an art ^^ [16:51] sounds like xmms2 ? [16:51] there are fuse filesystems to help with music collection's metadata as well [16:51] similar [16:51] i wish my head unit supported flac, there was supposed to be a firmware update for it, but it was never published [16:52] so keeping good tags is the base [16:52] trhodes: mplay.sf.net [16:52] thanks sahko, i had looked for such a thing before :) [16:52] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:52] one thing i do to help keep good tags is to use filenames in the format artist - album - track - songtitle.ext [16:52] tags are just ln-s's [16:52] tommys_knockers: don't know about xmms2 actually but i guess the built a similar thing.... this _is_ the way to manage big music collections by the way [16:53] then i can populate the tags from the filename and generate filenames from the tags [16:53] s/the/they/ [16:53] so my collection is standardized that way [16:53] yeah ill have to try it [16:53] Skywise: this is the way to go [16:53] or [16:53] that way even if albums get combined in the same directory or whatever, they can be sorted easily [16:53] write a awk script to handle tags in one file [16:53] and most of the time i'm ripping my own albums [16:53] or a bash script [16:53] I'm looking to change a png sldeshow into a swf slideshow, or a series of png pics into a swf sldeshow. I've heard about png2swf - does anyone have any experience with this and if so is there a pkg to install into slackware, (if not what dependencies are needed . . .) [16:54] yeah, i rip most of my music, but i also download stuff, but thats never a consistent quality [16:55] ripping only flac [16:55] i rip both flac and mp3, cause my car won't playback flac [16:55] got a script on my own doing all in one shot ripping tagging naming etc [16:55] otherwise i'd go all flac [16:55] BrokenCog (~Daniel@125.213.207.141) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:56] if you want sound quality buy vinyl. not digital crap :) [16:56] you encode to mp3 Skywise [16:56] i use audiograbber in windows, its freeware, its about the only software off the net i've ever paid for and months after i did, it was free [16:56] yeah, i use lame [16:56] damn you can believe how happy i am being back on slackware!! [16:56] sahko: yeah but hardware has a cost .... else +1 [16:56] alice_ (~alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:57] and it does automatic imdb lookups, so you just stick the disc in and when its ready click grab and its done [16:57] nick4 (~fffeop@62.1.63.4.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: [16:57] er cddb [16:57] not imbd [16:57] my script does this and it didn't cost me much than a few hours [16:57] :D [16:57] Skywise: try exact audio copy. its a swiss army knife. and theres many guides for decent rips. works with wine too [16:57] agris (~agris@mail.biko.lv) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:57] agris_ (~agris@pasts.blondais.lv) joined ##slackware. [16:58] yeah, eac isn't bad either [16:58] whats wrong with grip for gui [16:58] but audiograbber is my workhorse, you should try it and see [16:58] BrokenCog (~Daniel@125.213.207.141) joined ##slackware. [16:58] once its setup , i can cruise thru a stack of cds [16:58] dsad (~assd@188.34.66.148) joined ##slackware. [16:59] theres been efforts (stalled atm) to make rubyripper as eac-like as possible while being a native linux app [16:59] run multiple devices simultaneously, but i don't have a system fast enough to gain from it [16:59] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:59] dsad (~assd@188.34.66.148) left irc: Client Quit [16:59] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-30-178.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:00] w4lk (~w4lk@cpe-071-068-224-209.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:00] i have a stack of cds next to me i need to rip [17:00] I like audex, it's been of great use for me [17:00] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-49.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:00] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:00] dsad (~assd@188.34.66.148) joined ##slackware. [17:00] i spend most of my time completing collections and most of the stuff i want isn't in print anymore [17:01] i do like it when you can come across a groups website but they don't always have the rights to sell their own albums [17:01] audex has a nice interface but havent actually tried to rip anything [17:01] cdparanoia ftw [17:02] thats what all rippers use [17:02] even jack ? [17:02] sahko: not sure about that. There's libcdio as well [17:02] dsad (~assd@188.34.66.148) left irc: Client Quit [17:02] oh, i dont know anything using it though [17:02] sahko: iirc in mplayer you can choose between the two [17:02] matu_ (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [17:03] yeah i was about tto say vlc too [17:03] with cdparanoia being the default [17:03] i think vlc does as well [17:03] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:04] epaphus2 (~name@190.10.68.228) joined ##slackware. [17:04] agris_ (~agris@pasts.blondais.lv) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:04] so why do we would need any nice interface when we have the core? [17:04] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:04] it helps you from forgetting settings [17:04] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-49.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:04] and command lines can get mighty long [17:05] oh [17:05] agris (~agris@mail.biko.lv) joined ##slackware. [17:05] just write it once in a script and you're done :D [17:05] hehe [17:05] why would we* [17:05] BrokenCog (~Daniel@125.213.207.141) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:06] Axtroz (1000@77.78.15.8) joined ##slackware. [17:06] cbpye_ (~cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:07] in bash, i like C-x e for the lines so long that they ought to be scripts [17:07] i'm not into mainstream music and half the albums i want were made in someones basement the night after a show [17:07] matu_ (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:07] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-26-46.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:07] matu_ (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [17:07] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Axius (~fd@109.97.60.215) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:08] pireau (1000@208.92.18.67) joined ##slackware. [17:08] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [17:10] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:10] agris (~agris@mail.biko.lv) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:11] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. 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[17:18] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:19] hello [17:19] hello [17:19] biker__ (~biker@201.170.59.245.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [17:19] guys do u have trouble with horrible font rendering [17:19] guys do u have trouble with horrible font rendering ? [17:19] are you using an LCD? [17:20] yes [17:20] kde or xfce or other? [17:20] xfce [17:20] go to settings menu>xfce settings manager [17:20] but it happened when i installed nvidia driver [17:20] oh [17:20] w4lk (~w4lk@cpe-071-068-224-209.sc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:21] yeah, leave that part out till the end... [17:21] anti aliasing is very bad [17:21] nvidia uses different dpi settings than standard xorg drivers [17:21] font look like blurry [17:22] is there something that can be done pprkut ? [17:22] zmisc (zmisc@pdpc/supporter/student/zmisc) left ##slackware. [17:22] agris (~agris@pasts.blondais.lv) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [17:22] never workedwith xfce, so....maybe [17:23] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [17:23] you can change the dpi in appearance [17:23] I use to tweak kde's font settings, which works quite good [17:23] also you can change the hinting [17:23] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [17:23] the hitting? [17:23] hinting [17:23] agris (~agris@pasts.blondais.lv) joined ##slackware. [17:23] its under appearance>fonts [17:24] enable anti-aliasing [17:24] and change to full or mediua, whichever looks best [17:24] medium* [17:24] you could also change the dpi if you want [17:24] davi (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:24] tried already always blurry [17:24] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:25] alienBOB: thanks for the blog entry on the eee [17:25] Yeah I hope it helps some [17:25] never workedwith xfce, so....maybe << well worked out of the box here.... just had to activate anti aliasing fonts [17:25] nvision (~nvision@g225060036.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [17:26] shall be [17:26] can't argue there as I really never used xfce, and I don't plan to do in the future [17:26] wimp :P [17:26] xfce uis nice :) [17:26] blabla [17:27] Qt ftw! [17:27] urgh [17:27] init flamewar [17:27] QT3 maybe [17:27] segmentation fault [17:27] continue with other topics [17:27] awesome is nice too [17:27] KDE4 is makeing good progress [17:27] i switch between xfce and awesome [17:28] is libflame installed? [17:28] eh, on my computer, if I run kde, my cpu sits at 80% idle [17:28] juice (1000@67.48.16.231) joined ##slackware. [17:28] well every wm has it flow and quality, Xfce is lightweight for my old duron lol [17:28] nothing is lightweight for a duron [17:29] well xfce is [17:29] awesome or xmonad? [17:29] haha, just a joke [17:29] awesome is good [17:29] I even got awesome 3.4.4 to run on slackware [17:29] agris (~agris@pasts.blondais.lv) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:29] you'd think awesome would be better then that [17:30] agris (~agris@mail.biko.lv) joined ##slackware. [17:30] awesomer [17:30] most awesomest [17:30] evar!!!1!! [17:30] like, totally [17:31] thats just like, your opinion, man [17:31] xmonad's haskellness scares me [17:32] but I do want to try xmonad given some free time [17:32] it takes forever to get running because you have to d/l and compile the haskell compiler [17:32] I use xmonad. It's really incredibly customizable and once it's setup it's perfect. But...if I lost my config file I'd probably just switch to something else. No way I'm rewriting that. lol [17:32] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:33] yeah, the sheer programmability of it is the good and the bad :) [17:34] ion and lua was (were?) like that too [17:34] the xmonad config is much more readable than say awesome's in lua [17:34] or maybe ion2, i forget, i gave up on it [17:38] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:38] ha, in the google dropdown menu for xmonad, i saw this: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=58369 (xmonad vs awesome) [17:38] alicephilippa (~alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:39] i'm not a fan of "tiling" so much as I am of automatic layout (and minimalism) [17:39] in fact, tiling only sucks for certain jobs [17:40] I really enjoyed xmonad, till i ran into awesome, spent a good year on awesome [17:40] well the need of ghc and haskell put me off [17:40] ive always used tiling as fullscreen with an occasional floating app (eg. gimp) [17:40] since i use terminals 99% it rocked [17:40] If there are apps that don't work tiled I just set them to float. :x [17:40] yeah, i use kde with most things fullscreen [17:40] but KDE 4, was so pretty, wanted to give kde some love [17:40] I used ion3 for a while [17:41] Action: admboom generally not a fan of "pretty" in a wm [17:41] yeah, i never figured that out in ion2 (but that was long ago, i tend to fix things better now) [17:41] but on a 14" laptop it was usually just one big window [17:41] gimp and xmms were awful in ion2 :) [17:41] I still with flux for now [17:41] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:41] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-23-105.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:42] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-29.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:42] how's flux's task switcher? can you use a mouse to select windows from it ? [17:42] I have a custom workspace just for the gimp. :D Two toolbar windows are glued to the sides and the main window with the image just sits in the middle [17:43] trhodes, you can with the workspace menu ting [17:43] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:43] nice, i don't mind setting up "classes" of window management for different apps, as long as I can figure it out [17:43] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [17:43] ok, neat, i need to try a lighter WM (actually, DE) on this thinkpad [17:43] i also like klipper a lot :( [17:43] actually I probably should look up which key combo brings up workspace menu [17:44] trhodes, parcellite [17:44] great X clipbaord [17:44] on sbo [17:44] CelestialWurm (~celestial@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [17:44] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [17:44] better tan klipper imo [17:44] brbrbr (~basiley@89.208.116.17) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:44] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:45] nice! thanks, dive :) [17:45] i really ought to start FIRST searching SBo instead of google for stuff like this [17:45] agris (~agris@mail.biko.lv) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:46] heh, openbox is still my love of loves when it comes to WMs [17:47] ok guys, now we talk about great WM let talk about my font trouble [17:47] :P [17:47] i saw nothing of font troubles lol [17:47] do setenv and export do the same thing? [17:47] pick lucida sans console and you can't go wrong [17:47] syntax_error: what's the trouble [17:47] we need screenshots [17:47] :) [17:47] depends on the shell, i think Reticenti [17:48] Reticenti, export is slackware way, setenv is other OS's way [17:48] bash is usually export [17:48] ah [17:48] iirc [17:48] Tusk very bad appearance [17:48] syntax_error: screenshot [17:48] setenv is for the csh [17:48] ah right [17:48] then it does depend on the shell :) [17:48] Yes [17:48] but export works for absh, correct? [17:48] yeah, I know bash and zsh use export [17:49] bash* [17:49] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] tusk where i sent it ? [17:50] tusk still there ? [17:50] yeah [17:50] where you want [17:50] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:50] Nick change: xchg -> xchg_spi [17:52] agris (~agris@mail.biko.lv) joined ##slackware. [17:52] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ultzhsqxmxmkpnpv) left irc: Quit: xMDKx [17:53] syntax_error: omploader for example [17:55] syntax's problem may be nvidia related (from 21:21 UTC in the scrollback) so screenshots might not help much [17:56] syntax_error: you sure you are 96*96 DPI?? [17:56] xdpyinfo | grep resolution [17:57] zaltekk (~zaltekk@kennethbrown.me) joined ##slackware. [17:57] http://omploader.org/vM3Zsdg/snapshot1.png [17:57] Ivshti (~ivo@77.76.50.154) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:57] resolution: 86x101 dots per inch [17:58] that's kind of weird isnt it? [17:58] jiraia (~Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::56bb) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:58] i have 93x05 dpi [17:58] 93x95 * [17:58] lol [17:59] 05 was incredible [17:59] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:59] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-29.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:59] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-18-45.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:00] tommys_knockers (~sisssss@212.183.140.51) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:00] does slackware come by default with a fortran compiler? [18:00] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:00] yar [18:00] diskset d [18:00] g77 [18:00] ah, thakns [18:00] syntax_error: not that bad actually :D [18:01] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [18:01] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-235.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:01] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host86-166-68-148.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:02] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:02] Tusk, are u kidding ? I can t stare at my screen and read [18:03] lol [18:03] Tusk, before I installed nvidia driver all was ok out of the box [18:03] (the screenshot did look nice) [18:04] syntax_error: except the tiny fonts in xchat text box what are you feeling wrong? [18:04] Tusk, because I setup the xfce custom DPI to 96 [18:05] I feel like my eyes need to always find the right focus [18:06] I don't see a font-issue in that screenshot either [18:06] syntax_error: what's your refresh rate? [18:07] 57 Hz [18:07] strange number [18:07] try 50 [18:07] should n t be 60 [18:07] depend on your screen... weird behaviour sometimes [18:09] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-216-022.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [18:09] Tusk (~Tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:09] d3m0n3 (~EviL@2001:470:d11a::aaaa) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:09] sluckxz (~sluckxz@unaffiliated/sluckxz) joined ##slackware. [18:09] d3m0n3 (~EviL@2001:470:d11a::aaaa) joined ##slackware. [18:10] syntax_error, it should be whatever the monitor supports, it has nothing to do with the line frequency [18:10] and 57 is a weird number.. [18:10] http://omploader.org/vM3ZtMA/snapshot2.png [18:11] you see better what i mean with default font DPI settings [18:11] Screenshot looks fine to me. May be a matter of your setup not being very appropriate for your monitor [18:11] Tusk (~Tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [18:12] syntax_error, are you over 40? [18:12] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:12] lol [18:12] lol [18:12] syntax_error: try taking a picture of the monitor if you can [18:12] only when i work on linux [18:13] try the subpixel order too [18:13] anyways, the issue is the font is too small? [18:13] no blurry font [18:13] Vertical RGB may sharpen your fonts too [18:13] peacenik (root@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left ##slackware. [18:13] syntax_error, you have an LCD? [18:13] resolution: 96x96 dots per inch [18:13] tried everything [18:13] VGA or DVI? [18:13] perfect [18:13] or HDMI... [18:13] yes i have LCD [18:13] ^^ [18:13] DVI? [18:13] this is since he messed with nvidia stuff that the problem arose [18:14] VGA [18:14] well get rid of binary blob drivers [18:14] syntax_error, use DVI [18:14] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:14] I can 't there is not [18:14] syntax_error, also make sure the res matches exactly the native res of the LCD [18:15] but why use DVI if before I installed nvidia driver all was ok ? [18:15] syntax_error, but those pics are very clear but a slightly small font [18:15] a while back pprkut said nvidia uses different dpi settings than xorg [18:15] syntax_error: considering removing nvidia? [18:16] you shoud have seen before looked like windows or macosx [18:16] if the screen shot is clear but his monitor isn't, he's not running at his monitor's native res [18:16] syntax_error, because DVI makes the picture much much sharper [18:16] syntax_error, if you look at that image you posted does it look blury? [18:16] Tusk definetly yes [18:16] i think skywise is onto this one [18:16] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Param.C3.A8tres_de_l.27.C3.A9cran << try the DPI settings [18:17] no image are clean [18:17] Icon on task bar are not [18:17] should help the font sharpness if you can set correct 96DPI [18:17] also try other refresh rates [18:17] tends to mess yith your screen [18:17] syntax_error, do you see any problems when you look at this? http://omploader.org/vM3Zsdg/snapshot1.png [18:18] lol [18:18] if you don't then it is a driver issue, if you do then it is a VGA/res issue [18:18] because nobody sees any problem with that pic [18:18] nvision (~nvision@g225060036.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:19] I see this image as I preceive my own screen [18:19] also try other refresh rates << syntax_error i really mean it.... here 51Hz makes my eyes bleed while 50 is ok [18:20] http://www.opera.com/press/releases/2010/03/18/ heh [18:21] how can i find the exact native res of LCD ? [18:21] DURgod (~DURgod@24-236-174-174.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Quit: DURgod [18:22] syntax_error: vendor ... [18:22] but for me with the screenshot you're good [18:22] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:23] ok you give me a lot of good hints stay online and I ll show you the result [18:23] I ll hope to [18:24] i'm staying online [18:24] Well your res right now is 1400x1050 which is a little odd...unless my browser is incorrect [18:24] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:25] would vbetool work to query the native res. on certain monitors ? [18:25] vbefp panelsize ? (i've never seen it work on any of my monitors) [18:25] dhabyxc (~dhabyx@190.7.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [18:26] anyone had problems with firefox-3.6-x86_64 ??? 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[18:28] xsamurai (~fahad@69.43.199.101) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:28] edman007: true xrandr give the max [18:28] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [18:28] Tusk, well i think it is X's settings not actually from the monitor...but what X thinks may be useful.. [18:29] oh [18:29] anyway nothing better than the hardware spec for that :D [18:29] ASUS VW222S [18:29] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-18-45.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [18:29] jg71 (~edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Disconnected by services [18:30] jg71_ (~edud@unaffiliated/jg71) joined ##slackware. [18:30] 1680 x 1050 [18:30] PenPerkInc (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [18:30] you shouldn't got 1400xsomething [18:30] Right now running at 1400x1050, which is why it is blurry [18:30] sluckxz (~sluckxz@unaffiliated/sluckxz) joined ##slackware. [18:30] even if it's not blurry on the screenshot :D [18:31] mattallmill (~mattallmi@ip98-186-163-10.ks.ks.cox.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:31] syntax_error: add DisplaySize 444 277 under your monitor part in xorg.conf [18:32] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:32] 1400x1050 is a proper 4:3 resolution. [18:32] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-30-151.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:32] but if its an hd monitor, its prolly 16:9 [18:33] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-216-022.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:33] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:33] u mean : option displaysize "444 277" [18:33] It's one of the fake-hd monitors (like mine) at 1680x1050 [18:33] PenPerk1 (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) got netsplit. [18:33] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) got netsplit. 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[19:04] adrenaline: if you have unlocked widgets press on the lower right corner on that yellow thing which opens a window right on top of the panel. then click on a widget and move it somewhere else [19:05] hahahahahahah best ban message ever! [19:05] sahk0, perfect thanks [19:07] dErFz (~derf@unaffiliated/derfz) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:07] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:07] gartt (~gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:07] gartt (~gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[19:46] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [19:46] syntax_error (~sineror@host200-74-dynamic.25-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:47] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.119.120) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:47] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [19:48] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.73.243) joined ##slackware. [19:49] adaptr (~adaptr@xs.adaptr.nl) joined ##slackware. [19:49] DareDevil0 (~Another@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:51] DareDevil (~Another@cpe-173-171-218-44.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [19:52] Nick change: thrice`_ -> thrice` [19:54] anyone have troubles compiling 32bit fontforge while on 64bit using compat32? [19:55] macavity (~charlotte@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:57] it gets to gdraw and errors out [19:58] macavity (~charlotte@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:58] it's probably a lib issue... are you sure it's not pulling from 64bit includes? [19:59] alicephilippa (~alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [20:00] Cann0n: welcome to my hell :) [20:00] alicephilippa (~alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:00] cann0n: why do you use 32compat? [20:02] Necos: i think it is. i modified the bould script to make sure it uses /lib instead of lib64, but when it gets down to the gdraw (libgdraw), it still says it's trying to do stuff in the lib64 [20:02] Smoking_Man: trying to get wine working [20:02] needs fontforge [20:03] Cann0n: You've sourced /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh ? [20:04] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-146-250.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [20:04] jkwood: i think. ". /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh" [20:05] it compiles a lot of fontforge, just craps out [20:05] if i'm missing a dep for 32bit, would it try 64bit instead? [20:05] Hmm... I haven't built fontforge recently. [20:05] because i shouldnt call 64bit libs [20:06] That may be it. [20:06] i love slackware, and by association i love you all. please view this pet documentation [20:06] http://tinyurl.com/849uw [20:06] sQuEE (~narya@201.252.25.192) joined ##slackware. [20:07] yum [20:07] it might be a problem with the makefile [20:08] teckan (~teckan@bl6-249-17.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:08] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [20:08] rworkman: Ping [20:09] it might be a dependency issue [20:09] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.199.108) joined ##slackware. [20:10] alienBOB: ping [20:11] goarilla (~goarilla@118.85-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:11] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@pm1dialin-20.danbbs.dk' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [20:11] Smoking_Man kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: You just stepped in dog shit, pupuser. [20:12] lol [20:12] goarilla (~goarilla@66.37-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [20:12] slackboy, I love you. [20:13] slackboy for pres [20:13] tobyl (~tobyl@host81-155-188-161.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:13] Action: Reticenti bends over [20:13] Action: rworkman runs [20:13] (only if you do the reach around) [20:13] get a room! [20:13] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:14] :( [20:14] Action: jkwood throws a boat at rworkman [20:15] Action: rworkman plays with the man in the boat. 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[20:25] Reticenti, I added : Option "metamodes" "1680x1050_60 +0+0; 1280x1024 +0+0; 1024x768 +0+0; 800x600 +0+0; 640x480 +0+0" [20:25] mquin (~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) left irc: Excess Flood [20:25] in the screen section [20:26] then I used only true type font coz better quality [20:26] ah, nice [20:27] vkng (~toor@189.107.67.37) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:27] I also forced option DVI 96 x 96 [20:28] vkng (~toor@189.107.67.37) joined ##slackware. [20:28] well i mixed everything that i have been told [20:30] Now after a big battle against Xorg I m exhausted and I go rest .... thk u all Reticenti, Tusk and edman007 [20:31] no problem [20:32] mquin (~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) joined ##slackware. [20:33] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.50.198) joined ##slackware. [20:37] Has anybody tried setting up a bluetooth headset in Slackware? [20:38] I think it's the particular headset that's causing me problems. [20:38] evening boys [20:39] It's nachox! Behave! [20:40] i [20:40] /c/c [20:40] bah [20:41] i'm always around, i might not talk as much, but i'm here, trust me, watching over you, looking for those of you who screw it [20:42] oops [20:42] ;-) [20:42] l [20:43] syntax_error: Type "y" if you're having difficulties witth your keyboard. [20:43] syntax_error, ?? care to write one full word? :P [20:43] anyone want to take bets on the next letter ? :P [20:44] lol a cat was running on my desktop [20:44] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:46] May be that cat was trying to communicate with the slackware community and leave an important message for the future generation [20:47] Well, so far my guess is either "i love you all" or "ill be back" [20:47] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-3-97.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:47] i was trying to say "i leet cat. u noobs suck" methinks [20:47] *it [20:48] macavity: You are a pretty leet cat, though. [20:48] i am but an ant among kings [20:48] Action: BP{k} stomps on macavity [20:48] a flat ant, too. [20:48] at least that it what i feel like when i read the coreboot and mesa mailing lists :P [20:49] *is [20:49] BP{k}: One of his legs is still moving, stomp again. [20:49] BP{k}: i have weight problems you insensitive clod :P [20:50] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [20:50] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:50] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-27-89.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:50] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-21-101.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:50] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [20:51] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [20:54] f96fg [20:56] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [20:59] there goes that cat again [21:00] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@174-23-*.slkc.qwest.net expired. [21:00] cat > /dev/null [21:00] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@174-23-*.slkc.qwest.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:01] haha [21:02] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] :D [21:03] zsnes is a great way to test the compat32. i can't get fontforge compiled [21:04] Cann0n: I'll see what I can figure out. [21:05] it's compiling zsnes without much trouble [21:05] it's not done, but it's trucking along slowly [21:07] jkwood: im gonna try aliens fontforge 32bit package and convert itn [21:07] :D [21:07] Ah, multiple source packages... not on this connection. I'll have t ogive it a try this weekend. [21:08] Action: jkwood puts a pin in it [21:08] Action: StandardSocket pins a fork in it [21:09] Action: edman007 wonders if there are any slackers in seattle.. [21:09] i'm diagonally across [21:09] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [21:09] i think ubuntu pretty much owns seattle [21:10] O.o [21:10] well i'm going to seattle (actually other side [west] of the bay) next week...need to find something to do on my time off [21:11] and you want to do a slackware user? [21:11] wear gloves and make joke phone calls fron pubfons [21:11] StandardSocket, make a gang to attack ubuntu? [21:11] SunTzu, lol [21:11] :) [21:11] im probably the only slackware user anyone would want to do [21:11] but make em on the day you leave [21:11] watch out for camera [21:12] StandardSocket, i know some slackers with kids... [21:13] that doesnt negate the truth of my statement [21:13] i tried to start a LUG in the 90s; i was living in a 2-uni town; i posted announcements; no one cared. [21:13] i'm the only person in Keystone Heights that knows what LCD means [21:13] when relating computer terms [21:13] im sure they did it because they knew they were dying and had to procreate in order to live on [21:13] Cann0n, :( [21:14] StandardSocket: There's not enough room here for you, ananke, and Cann0n to share egospace. The only way to resolve this is afight to the death. [21:14] heh [21:14] egospace -- that's good [21:15] e pulls out his 45 foot long magical pole arm and puts on his armor. [21:15] Action: Cann0n prepares for an eDuel [21:15] that's a mighty long poking stick [21:15] jkwood: well im just joking, unlike those others deluded by maya [21:16] fucking right. i knew i did everything right! compat32 works like a CHARM [21:18] Cann0n, you can't eDuel me, i got a HUGE ePenis [21:19] edman007: thats ok, i'll be 3rd in place. I'll take all the uglie eHoes [21:19] BP{k} (~michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:19] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-27-89.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:20] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-234.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:21] thrice ananke and antiwire battle for the title of greatest ego least friends [21:21] aaaaaaaaand go [21:23] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:24] arescorpio1 (~arescorpi@190.31.136.51) joined ##slackware. [21:26] its a draw! [21:26] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:26] StandardSocket: you see, no one wins. ~ [21:27] lol [21:27] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-234.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:27] besides, we all know i'm a dumbass lol [21:27] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: œ¿»Î½ »±²­ [21:28] Cann0n: you were disqualified from the competition because you have social skills [21:28] and have been known to befriend other humans [21:28] but hey, at least i only come in here after i research my problem [21:29] same of these floks that wonder in here want someone to hold their hand while tehy compile [21:29] you are here all day.......perhaps your problem is systemic [21:29] lol [21:29] actually, i'm addicted to slackware [21:29] i'm at a beach house right now [21:29] vkng (~toor@189.107.67.37) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:29] first thing i did when i got here was fire up the slappy and log on freenode [21:30] i dont know whether to laugh or cry [21:31] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-23-205.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:31] great. imbecile kiddies decided to chime in [21:31] ego++ [21:32] jkwood, yet another ape like creature lurking here [21:32] i'm crying... somehow my xfce menu button vanished [21:32] Cann0n: you can add it back [21:32] pretty easily [21:32] thats the thing, it's not in teh Add section [21:33] Add New Item -> Xfce Menu (very bottom) [21:33] it's not there. lol [21:33] vkng (~toor@189.107.67.37) joined ##slackware. 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[21:44] haha, google just accused viacom of using the hegelian dialectic [21:45] the nerve of them [21:45] too much synthesis!!! [21:45] "For years, Viacom continuously and secretly uploaded its content to YouTube, even while publicly complaining about its presence there. It hired no fewer than 18 different marketing agencies to upload its content to the site. It deliberately "roughed up" the videos to make them look stolen or leaked. It opened YouTube accounts using phony email addresses. It even sent employees to Kinko's to upload clips from computers [21:46] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:46] thrice` (thrice@slackadelic.com) left irc: Changing host [21:46] thrice` (thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) joined ##slackware. [21:46] i'm going to have to side with google on this one...because thats exactly how media corps (and other ilk) act [21:46] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-3-97.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:47] hey, what'st he option to tell X no tcp? [21:47] nolisten? [21:48] -nolisten tcp [21:48] k [21:48] ty [21:48] since when does wordpress require registration to read? lame [21:48] MOVNTDQA (1000@static-71-244-42-15.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:48] Nick change: ananke_ -> ananke [21:48] mancha: private blog i guess? [21:49] mancha: www.bugmenot.com ? [21:49] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.68.227) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:49] associated press i tried, not too private [21:50] hmm x is listening but no other info is given [21:51] x is listening to what? [21:51] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:52] tcp port [21:52] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.68.227) joined ##slackware. [21:52] 6001 or what have you? [21:52] 6000 [21:52] so make it stop [21:52] so you were schooled on how to turn that off [21:52] where do i add that in a script? [21:52] well i use startx [21:52] nano -w `which startx` [21:53] pass X "-nolisten tcp" [21:53] ew nano? [21:53] shudders [21:53] Action: Cann0n shudders as well [21:53] nobody ever says "ed `which $PROGRAM`" :P [21:53] serverargs="-nolisten tcp" [21:53] all haul vim [21:53] vim [21:53] are you concerned with local connections too? [21:53] mc for me [21:53] mancha nop [21:53] i don't even like mc lol [21:54] user [21:54] then just block 6000 eternally and be done with it [21:54] yea [21:54] *externally [21:54] eternally works for me too lol [21:54] but then you have a wasted port! [21:54] i dont use it [21:54] if you dont use it, you might as well leave it open and accepting connections [21:55] so i have to send my laptop out for repair. i was just going to do a `dd if=/dev/sda of=backup.img`, write zeroes to the whole drive, then when it gets back i'll do a `dd if=backup.img of=/dev/sda`. will that work as i expect it to? [21:55] thats what i always say [21:55] dont want those [21:57] my god...why are they still developing ubuntu [21:57] brainvision (~brainvisi@host188-211-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.1.1 [21:58] StandardSocket: just a wild guess... but was your last distro ubuntu? [21:59] cpunches (~cpunches@pool-72-65-105-88.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [21:59] hmm, fixing startx changed my wm [21:59] why not just send the laptop w/o the drive? [21:59] weirdness [22:00] Action: cpunches laments on the hilarity of being in a slackware IRC channel on a mIRC client ran by an XP installation modified to emulate OSX. [22:00] heh [22:00] mancha: i was going to, but taking the drive out requires a lot of disassembly [22:00] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:00] wmconfig [22:00] it's a netbook [22:00] ty [22:00] heh not found [22:00] pg72 (~paul@cpe-75-83-193-151.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:00] xwmconfig [22:00] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-23-205.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [22:00] amazon10x: yes, it should zero the whole drive and restore it to its previous state. You can check the integrity of the image by mount -o loop'ing the image before you go depending on it [22:00] cpunches (~cpunches@pool-72-65-105-88.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:00] trhodes: okay, thanks [22:01] i forgot what my wm was [22:01] heh [22:01] SunTzu: run wmconfig [22:01] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.68.227) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [22:01] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:01] dd is just slow compared to tar (but probably not bad for a netbook) [22:01] xwmconfig? [22:01] thats it [22:01] i haven't used that command in a long time lol [22:01] editing startx should not have changed your wm........ [22:01] trhodes: i'm just going to let it run overnight then mail it out in the morning, so it shouldn't be a problem [22:01] don't edit startx [22:02] if you do, copy it as start*wm* [22:02] ok blackbox [22:02] apparently dropping The Gimp and changing the colorscheme makes a distro release INNOVATIVE [22:02] ok ty all gn. [22:02] like startkde, startxfce, startflux [22:02] Cann0n: shhh [22:02] StandardSocket yea well; it's fixed now. [22:03] i'll report more later after i play with x and bowser [22:03] lawdy lawdy [22:03] StandardSocket: your the one telling people to edit startx [22:04] yeah thats where you add -nolisten tcp [22:04] hmm... [22:04] im not telling them to copy it to startxfce then ahck the shit out of it to make it load xfce [22:04] dont you stick that in .xinitrc? [22:05] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:05] pwnt [22:05] just saying... i've never heard of "edit startx". [22:06] you want the args passed to xinit [22:06] well ive been doing it for years and years...but only to modify one line that is there for an obvious reason [22:06] wherever that can happen [22:06] yeah, thank you mancha [22:07] line 32 [22:07] serverargs="" [22:07] hmm what goes there, i wonder [22:07] Cann0n np [22:08] why can't you set than in .xinitrc? StandardSocket [22:08] if you can find where to add it and do mind it getting reset whenever you run xwmconfig or anything [22:08] tell me which line you add it to in that.... [22:09] don't really care dude. sorry [22:09] eeek! [22:09] amazon10x: i forgot to mention, i've never zeroed a drive on a live machine ilke you're doing, you probably ought to use something like the installer initrd or init=$STANDALONE_SHELL, since you don't want your root fs mounted (i don't know your partitioning / lvm scheme, maybe you don't have to zero everything) [22:10] wine's fonts are crazy [22:10] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:11] trhodes: i'm going to boot a small linux from usb [22:11] ahh that makes it easy [22:11] um, how do i format something as fat32 from slack [22:11] you can use $HOME/.xserverrc if you want [22:11] i don't see a mkfs.dos or anything [22:11] peacenik (~root@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@pm1dialin-20.danbbs.dk expired. [22:12] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@pm1dialin-20.danbbs.dk' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [22:12] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt5-port-103.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] mkfs.vfat (maybe, i duno much about windows related stuff) [22:13] something like that [22:13] can use mkdosfs [22:13] ahh, thanks pg72 [22:13] ok, i feel silly 'cause I don't even have mkfs.vfat [22:14] i only have mkfs.[bfs,cramfs,ext2,ext3,ext4,ext4dev,jfs,minix,ntfs,reiserfs,xfs] [22:14] mkdosfs is here though [22:14] those are all symlinks mostly [22:15] is that fat32, though ? (i'm not sure it matters, however) [22:15] mkdosfs -F 32 [22:15] yes you specify an option to make it 32 [22:15] oh, cool :) [22:15] the default is 16 i believe [22:15] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [22:15] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:15] yeah, it says you have to explicitly choose 32 if you want it [22:15] ya pretty sure it is [22:16] also, ln -s /sbin/mkdosfs /sbin/mkfs.vfat (if you must) [22:16] arescorpio1 (~arescorpi@190.31.136.51) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [22:17] vnkg (~eddie@189.107.67.37) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:17] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:17] the only FAT fs's I use are already formatted for me; usually i just mount what my camera uses and that's it [22:17] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:18] R3un1a0 (~gr1nch.dc@mx.feliciorocho.org.br) joined ##slackware. [22:18] FAT still has a role i think, i keep a few FAT thumbdrives cause most anything can read those [22:18] so if you're taking somethin on a a trip and need it read on $RANDOM_COMP then that migt be an option [22:18] most of the thumbdrives are formated as 16 arent they? [22:18] unfortunately fat32 has the 4GB file limitation [22:19] i had my external as NTFS for the most universal FS, but it turns out OSX can't write ntfs [22:19] i don't think i have a single file that is bigger than 4GB :) [22:20] well, i'm about to dd this whole netbook hdd into one file. that'll make it 160GB [22:20] dvd images come close [22:21] Hoogin1 (hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left ##slackware. [22:25] Cann0n: why ask a question if you "dont really care dude, eeek" [22:25] in the same breathe even [22:25] eeek [22:29] StandardSocket: shhh. troll elsewhere. [22:29] Cann0n: nice troll bro [22:30] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.47.59) joined ##slackware. [22:30] convertpkg-compat32 doesn't seem to want to stick fonts where they need to be. O.o [22:30] totaly excluded them from converted package [22:30] the 32bit slackbuild was correct though [22:31] probably why there is a "this crap is not supported" [22:32] i know i've asked this before, but is anybody using user mode linux ? [22:33] O.o [22:34] Cann0n: probably because the fonts would overwrite the ones already on the system. [22:34] cbpye_ (~cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:34] rworkman: nope. it wasn't even placed a /usr/share/wine [22:34] sQuEE (~narya@201.252.25.192) left irc: Quit: fnord!! [22:35] works now [22:35] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:35] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.68.227) joined ##slackware. [22:36] trhodes: not experience with UML. i don't use multi-user systems nor need vm's [22:36] sQuEE (~narya@201.252.25.192) joined ##slackware. [22:38] well, i'm thinking about using it as a heavyweight multilib setup [22:38] rworkman: i'm not worried about it. it ended up being as easy as cp /tmp/SBo/package-wine/usr/share/wine /usr/share/wine [22:38] Cann0n: wine multilib worked fine for me [22:39] yeah i got it now. i had tons of troubles compiling fontforge. ended up just converting alien's premade package to compat32 [22:39] That's what I did [22:39] i just couldn't compile it. it'd crap out on libgdraw [22:41] nille_ (1000@c-83-233-249-34.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [22:44] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.75.5) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:44] eviljames (~james@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [22:47] cbpye_ (~cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:48] pg72 (paul@cpe-75-83-193-151.socal.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [22:50] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. 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[23:14] going good, thanks. you? [23:15] goin' good as well thanks [23:20] j0z (~lhp@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: [23:20] j0z (~lhp@187.59.8.253) joined ##slackware. [23:20] j0z (~lhp@187.59.8.253) left irc: Changing host [23:20] j0z (~lhp@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [23:21] hey MLanden [23:21] heya,Cann0n...how are you doin'? [23:22] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.60) joined ##slackware. [23:24] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:26] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.47.59) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:28] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] MLanden: trying to get figure out what happened to libpopt [23:30] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [23:31] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:35] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.50.198) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:36] Cann0n, printer driver/app calling for it? [23:37] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [23:37] http://global.phoronix-test-suite.com/index.php?k=category&u=compress-7zip [23:38] MLanden: xfapplet (gnomes panel for xfce) [23:39] Nick change: d_low -> sudod_low [23:39] notKlaatu (~klaatu@static-76-161-50-121.dsl.cavtel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:39] panel apps anyways [23:39] Nick change: sudod_low -> d_low [23:39] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-253.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:40] Cann0n, ok [23:42] Cann0n, do you have any of the versions of popt in /var/log/packages? [23:42] yeah, both. 64bit and compat32 [23:42] newslacker (~root@72-161-171-43.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:43] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:43] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [23:44] People are here arent they I dont see anyone chating lol [23:45] newslacker: you are new to irc? [23:45] yes [23:45] Cann0n: I think that's a resounding "yes" [23:45] BP{k}: i know. lol. i was hoping for an excuse. instead i got a real answer [23:46] newslacker: people don't chat. most people are doing something else or afk [23:46] Well sarcasm is a better reply then no reply I suppose. [23:46] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:46] I see [23:47] I dont see much point in that tho why be in chat if you dont plan to chat lol. [23:47] Cann0n, is there a particular gnome applet that you're trying to use with xfapplet? [23:48] IRC is serious business. [23:48] newslacker: because some of us like to chat to people across different timezones and it's easier to be left logged in so you can read the scrollback then having to restart a conversation every single time. [23:49] MLanden: i like the sensors better than what is available to xfce [23:49] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:50] newslacker: some chans can go hours before someone chats [23:51] newslacker: offtopic tends to be chatty [23:51] newslacker: thats ##slackware-offtopic [23:51] i was kidding about IRC being "serious business" ;) but it is topical [23:52] im shocked "take it to off-topic" wasn't called in yet... oh wait, it was. *facepalm* [23:52] Well thats unlike the types of places im used to then. Everywhere Ive been before this irc place you couldnt get them to shut up if your life depended on it. [23:52] hey did anyone mention ##off-topic? [23:52] oh I mean... [23:52] antiwire: net yet. [23:52] newslacker: thats AOL chats for ya [23:53] arenics (~arenics@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [23:53] Nah never used aol talking about yahoo and msn and places like that before i switched to linux. [23:53] Cann0n, ok....something from gnome's panelapplet must be calling popt...is it just askin' for libpopt or any other errors? [23:55] bots don't tend to come in here and spam pr0n sites like they do on AOL... it's because we are smart too smart to give into pyramid schemes... we prefer lies in only 2D form [23:56] MLanden: it's a dependency check. says /usr/lib/libgpopt isn't there [23:56] it's not. i'm on 64bit. it's in lib64 [23:56] biker (~biker@201.170.59.245.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) joined ##slackware. [23:56] but why is it calling for 32bit, even though im not on compat32 profile [23:56] Anybody has ekiga running? I'd like to test it out [23:57] beats me. i gave up [23:57] Cann0n, might be gnome's wrapper for popt [23:57] no idea. [23:57] just tried compiling miro, it needs seamonkey [23:57] why did I read that as "goat's wrapper" [23:58] lol [23:58] i'm not installing seamonkey... [23:58] looks like i'm not installing miro [23:59] brb. gonna go up stairs [23:59] alkos333: I have ekiga running and connected to a Zultys IPBX system, ekiga.net and my own asterisk server too [00:00] --- Fri Mar 19 2010