[00:00] acidtripper: geocities-style? [00:00] nope slackware style ;) [00:00] let's see [00:00] gonzalo.dnsalias.org is under contruction, and i have to upload plenty of kwort packages, too [00:01] and a better connection :( [00:01] well... i can't fix this issue... [00:02] i'm just gonna... reboot... [00:02] steelin your background [00:02] brb. maybe 16th is the charm. [00:02] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:02] :P i stole it to pat [00:02] and web template as you see too [00:02] yeah [00:02] i won't be steelin the web template [00:03] internet thieving will get 2-3 in juvie [00:03] i typically have one big perl file for everything [00:03] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [00:03] -_- [00:03] as its running on a 3mb connection, i like this kind of template, and is too simple to understand, some they i will give a chance to pmwiki [00:04] what kind of perl apps do you have? [00:04] I have a perl app to replace you, acidtripper [00:04] tomorrow i travel to La Plata, and i have to decide if i wanna study Industrial Design or Programmer... [00:05] i have a perl app that helps you decide between industrial design and programmer [00:05] i hate maths and thats why i dont wanna study Program engeneer, but i would like to study that :( [00:05] You can do us all a favor and go with industrial design [00:05] why you'r so bad [00:05] :( [00:05] lol [00:06] i think that with a little effort i can achieve it [00:06] but.. well.. i will think it [00:06] clavius (i=James@241.sub-75-207-30.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [00:06] on it* [00:06] mgjschdl (n=none@CPE002129932877-CM0011ae91a686.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: [00:07] Cann0n (i=1337@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:07] Nick change: acidtripper -> gonzalo [00:08] well, maths are important, but being able to think through things logically is *way* more important [00:08] Nick change: gonzalo -> acidtripper [00:08] Sneezing + bruised ribs = bad [00:08] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425453.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [00:09] antiwire: bruised ribs from surfing ? [00:10] indeed [00:10] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:10] where do you live antiwire ? [00:10] heh [00:10] so cal [00:10] ifornia? [00:10] yep [00:10] cool, but's winter there now? [00:11] winter is when we get the best surf [00:11] do you use neoprene suit? [00:11] yeah [00:11] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:11] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:11] http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/state_beaches_10172009.jpg [00:12] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:12] mgjschdl (n=none@CPE002129932877-CM0011ae91a686.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [00:12] cool, im going to brasil this summer, and i think i'll buy a surf table, always i do body [00:12] that's you? [00:12] cool :D [00:13] ;) [00:13] wanna be there now :( [00:14] clavius2 (i=James@156.sub-70-194-65.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [00:14] icaro (n=icaro@unaffiliated/icaro) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:15] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-173.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:18] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:18] How do I run missed cron jobs? For example, if I have a cron job that runs on the 15th of every month, and my laptop is off on the 15th [00:19] And...if I turn on my laptop on the 16th, how do I make sure it runs the cronjob? [00:19] You..dont [00:19] its turned off..it doesnt run [00:19] simple as that [00:19] nod, understood [00:19] is there a program that looks past [00:19] and runs missed cronjobs? [00:19] You could have a start up script to check for something [00:20] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [00:20] something like an if test to check if a file exits or check some time stamp [00:20] exists* [00:21] or you could cron a missed cron checker and then universe would implode in a self-referential vortex [00:22] omg don't [00:22] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425453.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [00:23] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [00:25] i wish i could expunge my dumb comment from the logs [00:26] this shows wrong logic, if i have laptop and i want to run a corn job every month "around the 15th" (on the 15th or the first available date after the 15th?), then most likely i have to install a cron daily that is going to check, and of course record when it run the last time, like storing in some file a timestamp of last run, etc [00:28] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: "42" [00:29] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:29] hmmm corn job :) [00:34] oobe http://74.235.213.125/ okay I just broke my head trying to fixed this problem let me know its working because this is jsut messing me up [00:34] oobe: final [00:34] did ur ip change? [00:35] It works! [00:35] it was ur iptables rules [00:35] that script u pasted the other day you just need to add port 80 [00:35] I have dhcpcd, but I just had to use lsof -p 80 [00:35] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:36] oobe: thank you i will do it [00:36] yeah iptables --flush worke dliek a charm thsank you [00:36] thank you all [00:36] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.78.159) joined ##slackware. [00:36] oobe: try putting soul keeper on there like on my ip to see if you see it [00:37] lsnet at the end of my ip [00:37] oobe: and come tyo linusociety you idiot we want you [00:37] yea that works [00:38] you gonna need to make a dydns account [00:38] yeah i notice [00:38] bohunm: if you're still paying attention: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/anacron/ [00:39] oobe: i will pay you on paypal [00:39] oobe: do it for me [00:39] lol [00:39] do what? [00:39] If I invoice you for setting up a dyndns account you'll pay it? [00:39] give me a PO# [00:39] redtricycle: maybe that link was for you [00:39] oobe what is the procedure for ./configure prefic blah some/uisr [00:40] prefix=/usr ? [00:40] ./configure prefix=/usr [00:40] yeah lol thanks [00:40] i'm jsut drunk i drank a whole bottle of old english [00:41] good 4u [00:41] hah -> http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/product-gallery/B000IZGIA8/ref=cm_ciu_pdp_images_0?ie=UTF8&index=0 [00:42] Masterx831: what size bottle? [00:42] give me a PO# for work to be done stating that you will pay for the domain registration fees and 150$USD for time and I'll setup a dyndns account for you and give you the login information. [00:42] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:43] Urchlay: anacron? who wrote it? where is the source to it? [00:43] bohunm: google it [00:43] bohunm: I dunno, go look at that link, there's a link to the source there, and to the homepage [00:44] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-80-97.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:44] he doesn't even need to google it, that page already has (or has links to) all he's asking for [00:44] veritos (i=4c68f9a7@gateway/web/freenode/x-noerxlnzuwdudpzs) joined ##slackware. [00:44] yeah i m looking now [00:45] Whoa. For a "stable" distro, Slackware has a newer kernel than Ubuntu and Fedora. This is hilarious. [00:45] fedora has 2.6.30.9 yo [00:46] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-173.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:46] what kinda wool are you trying to pull over mah eyez? [00:46] bohunm: actually I know almost nothing about anacron, other than the fact that it exists, and a vague idea what it does... [00:46] Urchlay: fair enough, never heard of it, never use it [00:47] and ubuntu has 2.6.31 [00:47] I heard of it, but never used it... [00:47] veritos: Is the hilariousness the fact that Slackware has a newer kernel or that Ubuntu and Fedora have an older kernel? [00:47] oh, they said 2.6.27 on osnews [00:47] so i guess inaccurate on two counts [00:47] fail^2 [00:47] My Slackware is using 2.6.31.6 [00:47] oobe: it defaulted to 2.6.27 on a lot of people, that must be a fallback [00:47] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-245-173.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:47] my boxes run 24/7 and only corn job i run on my laptop is getmail to fetch the mail for mutt [00:48] i want a corn job [00:48] :-) [00:48] ok [00:48] veritos, no its just that they upgraded from older ones and the didnt update there menu.lst [00:48] sorry [00:48] i hate corn dogs [00:49] hm, I wouldn't mind some corn chips (well, nacho chips, made of corn, right?) [00:49] Urchlay: those are yummy [00:50] nacho chips are certain made of cron, not corn [00:51] well, they're cronchy, anyway [00:51] plutonium (n=plutoniu@80.85.119.109) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:51] LitesterB (n=Litester@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [00:55] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-80-97.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:55] Urchlay: sorry for the time um.. says 1 quart 32 oz fl [00:56] hm, doesn't OE come in 40's? [00:57] seems like I used to drink 40 oz bottles of it, but ehhh, that was many moons ago [00:58] initself (n=initself@ip68-4-25-125.pv.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:59] macius (n=macius@i209-195-94-181.cia.com) left irc: "leaving" [01:00] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:00] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:00] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [01:01] hi * [01:01] veritos (i=4c68f9a7@gateway/web/freenode/x-noerxlnzuwdudpzs) left ##slackware. [01:02] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:02] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:03] What's the best way to get -current running from scratch? I'm thinking install 13.0, rsync update the -current tree, find . -name '*.txz' --exec upgradepkg --install-new {} \; [01:03] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [01:03] Or would syncing the mirror and rolling an ISO be a better way? [01:03] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [01:03] if you want to run -current, those questions really should not need to be asked. but that is just my opinion. [01:04] haha, right. [01:05] Well, I didn't see anything in the changelog which would leave me to believe the former approach wouldn't work, but I thought I'd ask in case there were some gotcha's I misse.d [01:05] but both methods are technically viable. [01:05] I like to help by installing the current tree via the current installer itself [01:05] The installer is software too and should have review with as many setups as possible too [01:05] nathanbw: since I keep various mirros synchronised locally, I probably would just either roll my own iso .. or just use an iso to boot and install from that partition [01:07] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:07] RPMcMurphy (n=elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [01:08] BP{k}, sounds good. I've got 12.2 and 13.0 mirrors already, I'll just copy the 13.0 mirror over and update to -current. Then I should be able to point the 13.0 installer to the -current packages on disk to install? (Trying to avoid burning another DVD.) [01:08] earp_child (n=DirtySan@72-4-87-94.gncsin06.customers.broadreach.net) joined ##slackware. [01:08] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [01:12] slackie (n=x@87-196-154-185.net.novis.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:13] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:13] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:14] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:17] Action: Urchlay considers running -current on crappy old laptop [01:19] mgjschdl (n=none@CPE002129932877-CM0011ae91a686.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: [01:20] heh [01:20] what's it running now [01:21] 13 [01:21] runs fine, 1200MHz athlon4, 512M RAM [01:21] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:22] heh so why not run current [01:22] ;D [01:22] eh, well, KDE runs for crap on it, but I don't use KDE other than to test .desktop files for packages I'm about to send off to SBo [01:22] why not? because I are lazy? [01:22] john_dee (n=id@95-29-9-214.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [01:24] it's fun thougjh [01:24] i was so excited to go from 13.0-64 to current [01:24] kde is cooler somehow [01:24] i can't see anything other than akondai isn't annoying me but a newer version seems cooler [01:24] hm.. had an outage last night with comcast, today im downloading slackware iso at 1.3MB/sec ... no news of any upgrades though [01:25] fiyawerx, what should you be getting [01:25] pretty sure used to be 6mbps connection [01:25] just ran a speedtest and got 18 down and 6.13 up [01:25] check dslreports.com and look for the comcast forums [01:25] ah good idea [01:26] jeev: I've never liked KDE, all the way back to whichever version I saw first (1.0? 2.0? It was around the time of Slackware 4 and Redhat 6) [01:26] ahh [01:26] earp_child (n=DirtySan@72-4-87-94.gncsin06.customers.broadreach.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:26] i just like what looks nice to be honest [01:26] as long as it's not buggy [01:26] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:26] i used to like kde, can't seem to wrap my head around 4.x though, something just bugs me. Going to be giving slack + xfce a shot shortly [01:27] fiyawerx, its come a long way since 4.0 [01:27] but i take you mean the ui [01:27] Action: fiyawerx nods [01:27] i like the way it looks too, but something just doesn't feel right [01:28] but then I think of X as a way ro run lots of terminals, plus one or two GUI apps [01:29] yeah, it does look nice, but I'm more sensitive to feel.. and IceWM has just the right one for me [01:29] (web browser, occasionally something like a PDF viewer or the Gimp) [01:29] Action: fiyawerx nods [01:29] thats one of my problems lately, i dont have much aim, so i'll install it, then sit there and say to myself ok.. what now. Then boot back into windows to play some games [01:30] o_O [01:30] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.78.159) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:30] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [01:30] it's almost more worth it for me to just use virtualbox on a windows host [01:30] which is a shame [01:31] fiyawerx: do you program ? [01:31] the best games, for me, work fine on linux (but the best games, for me, were all made before about 1989... linux has plenty of arcade & console emulators) [01:31] I have a particular soft spot for SNES [01:31] deco: dabble in python, been looking at the new google go [01:32] Urchlay: yeah, lately its been borderlands and dragon age for me [01:32] but i still mud occasionally too [01:32] fiyawerx: k cool [01:32] super mario all starts was my fav [01:32] stars* [01:33] the new super mario bros is fun [01:33] remember getting it when i was a kid, best gift ever [01:33] tuxdev_: yah, the SNES is nice. Been re-playing super mario world, using a wiimote classic pad for a controller. I forgot all the secrets/shortcuts/etc I used to know in that game... [01:34] deco: I'm an old fart, I remember begging the parents to get me an Atari 2600 for xmas, and getting an Atari 400 instead (a real computer!) [01:34] hehe, yeah [01:34] I'm more A Link to the Past person [01:34] my pac-man was cooler-looking than all the other kids in the neighborhood (have you ever seen 2600 pac-man? ugh) [01:34] decided to go play parallel worlds lately [01:34] Urchlay: hehe i grew up playing snes [01:35] there was no pac-man for the 2600 [01:35] I have pac-man on the 2600 that still works here [01:35] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pac-Man_%28Atari_2600%29 [01:35] tuxdev_: eh? sure there was, it just sucked (so I can understand why you're in denial) [01:35] that's the *Atari* 2600, not the Cisco 2600 series routers :) [01:35] Action: fiyawerx smirks [01:35] i bet you could get some sort of version running on them [01:35] like no matrix sequels were ever made [01:35] yarvin (n=yarvin@105-200-58-66.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [01:36] have each dot be a random packet that gets dropped when he eats it [01:36] I've got berzerk, pitfall, frogger, and kaboom that still work [01:36] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [01:37] my whole work is addicted to virtualnes.com [01:37] the local not-an-arcade charges 50 cents a play for the oldies. ugh [01:37] another great game for the snes was aladin :P [01:38] oh and the one that made me stay up all night was peter pan [01:38] twolf: actually, hang on a sec, someone's done a decent homebrew 2600 pac-man in recent years... [01:38] Star Fox is 3D as it should always be [01:38] I was more of the RPG fan, FF3(6), secret of mana [01:38] er. Sorry, that was directed at tuxdev_ [01:39] yeah, I rather like FF6 and SoM. Tales of Phantasia too [01:39] and seiken denetsu 4 [01:40] Urchlay, that's awesome.. The 2600 definitely has the *ability* to do pac-man decently, Atari just didn't do it [01:41] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:41] tuxdev_: yah, look at Ms. Pac-Man for the 2600 (IIRC, the homebrew pac-man is actually a modified ms. pac-man) [01:41] hehe [01:42] Oh, there is a ms. pac-man/galaga machine in La Guardia airport [01:42] the story behind 2600 pac-man is that (a) it was a rush job, the programmer only had about a week or so to get it done, and (b) tightwad Atari management refused to OK the use of 8K ROMs [01:42] (so the damn thing had to be squeezed into 4k) [01:42] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:43] people can do incredible things with not much.. given the time to do it [01:43] it kept me putting quarters in the machine at the arcade instead of playing at home [01:43] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:43] super maria 2 was a fork of another game [01:43] yeah, but a week? he was doing good to get it to run without rolling the screen [01:43] mario* [01:43] wtf lol [01:43] yeah [01:43] deco: right, I remember seeing a site about that once [01:43] rebranded for the US [01:43] slackie (n=x@87.196.154.185) joined ##slackware. [01:43] deco, yeah, and final fantasy adventure is really the first seiken denetsu game [01:44] Urchlay: oh didn't know that [01:44] grrr sorry ment tuxdev_ [01:44] tuxdev_: the 2600 only has 128 bytes of RAM. Coding for it is either a blast or an exercise in frustration, depending on how you respond to nearly-impossible challenges [01:45] sounds like a blast to me [01:45] people think I'm crazy to insist on making the games I work on really good *and* runnable on intel integrated GPUs [01:46] yeah, I had a lot of fun, tho I only ever completed one game (pretty simple one, too): http://www.atariage.com/software_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=2724 [01:47] actually I always wondered if it's possible to write a game that runs everything on a GPU, and doesn't use the main CPU at all during gameplay [01:47] (well, other than to shuffle data from the keyboard/mouse/whatever) [01:47] earp_child (n=DirtySan@72-4-87-94.gncsin06.customers.broadreach.net) joined ##slackware. [01:50] possibly. CUDA is really interesting [01:51] though it might not really work, since GPUs are really bad for anything other than massive vector processing [01:51] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.69) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:51] at that point we'll just have integrated systems onto the gpu's rahter than vice versa [01:51] it would be one of those "I did it to prove it can be done" things [01:51] nvidia xtreme gt monster triple threat double dog 9900x will BE your solution [01:52] wont even need a computer for it [01:52] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:52] you can just buy it, and play games right off it onto your tv [01:52] we can call it... a console. [01:52] right, revolutionary new concept [01:52] it does seem we're heading that way in a roundabout way [01:53] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.31.200) joined ##slackware. [01:53] well, AMD is already thinking about turning the GPU into a coprocessor rather than a complete card [01:53] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:54] didn't someone patent sending the signal right into your brain in the past year or two [01:54] or tried to [01:54] I know there's plenty of patents for the other way around [01:54] http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techinnovations/2005-04-06-sony-patent_x.htm [01:54] neonflux (n=neonflux@209.19.58.106) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:54] The U.S. patent, granted to Sony researcher Thomas Dawson, describes a technique for aiming ultrasonic pulses at specific areas of the brain to induce "sensory experiences" such as smells, sounds and images. [01:55] yeeaahh [01:55] I'll believe it when I see it.. or whatever [01:56] I can see it now... wife: what are you watching honey husband: um.. 'nothing dear' [01:56] alright, bed time, someone wake me up when we have holodecks [01:57] you know what, if that tech becomes a reality, you won't be able to walk down the sidewalk without being spammed by "sensory experiences" [01:57] that is what a government is for.. if it works properly [01:58] never did understand how the holodeck was supposed to work. Holograms you can have sex with? [01:58] smell-o-vision? [02:02] sex is mostly mental. just ask a female [02:04] not too helpful when the government is the source [02:04] I actually have the enterprise-D manual [02:04] says something about replicated dolls and magnetic field-induced motion.. or something [02:04] If you eat holodeck food, you really will get fat, drunk, whatever [02:04] that's the impression, anyway [02:04] though you probably wouldn't get drunk actually cause it's still just synthol [02:04] I sort of glaze over and say "A Wizard Does It" [02:04] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-32-246.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:05] there's the whole releases a natural version of opium thing [02:05] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Client Quit [02:05] Urchlay: lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ew0VtHmik [02:07] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [02:07] I'm having a hard time lexing that song [02:07] what, "synthohol" was supposed to taste like alcohol, but not be intoxicating? [02:07] who the hell would drink that? [02:07] yeah [02:08] I mean I'm sitting here drinking Jim Beam straight from the bottle, but I don't delude myself that I'm doing it for the exquisite flavor [02:08] which is why guinan would stock the real stuff and picard liked his stash from his family vineyard [02:08] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:10] good night [02:10] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [02:10] actually, hm. What about holodeck ethics? [02:11] if you wanted to use the holodeck to simulate a medieval dungeon, with yourself as head torturer... well, no actual living entities would be harmed [02:12] or re-enact JFK's assassination, with yourself on the grassy knoll [02:13] (or, yourself in the limo? ugh) [02:13] I'm going to pull the "Space Whale Aesop" card here [02:13] well, there's the whole ethical issue behind the columbine massacre game [02:14] which is kind of the same deal [02:14] right [02:14] er, actually I knew not of this game [02:15] I heard of it in my ethics class [02:15] someone did an ethical analysis of it [02:15] but I remember someone wrote a realtime simulated concentration camp game for the commodore 64 [02:15] (where you were the commandant of the camp, and got points for efficiently killing the inmates) [02:16] said it was fine cause the creators did their homework and it was more about understanding them then killing everyone [02:16] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [02:16] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Client Quit [02:16] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [02:17] bohunm (n=mbohun@203.171.195.5) left irc: "Leaving" [02:18] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:19] Axius (n=ade@92.82.82.53) joined ##slackware. [02:19] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:19] s/then/than [02:20] understanding whom? the columbine kids? [02:20] yeah, their motivations, what lead them to snap, etc. [02:21] I understand that all too well already [02:21] so in the game, are you just running around shooting? (as in, your character has already snapped) [02:22] nope. IIRC from what the guy said, snapping is the end-game condition [02:22] or do you start out as a social outcast, and the game keeps abusing you until you, the player, actually snap and go into assault mode? [02:22] pretty much all the game is everything before that [02:22] I don't remember if you're actually allowed to shoot stuff [02:22] hm, that doesn't sound like it'd be as controversial as all that, then [02:23] or if it's more a visual novel-type thing extremely accurate to real life [02:23] the gist I got was that the basic concept was more controversial than the actual implementation [02:24] the concentration camp game was done in the early 80s, the graphic quality was poor enough that it left a lot to the imagination. I'd hate to see it redone on a modern system [02:24] it'd probably still be left mostly to the imagination [02:24] there are some sick bastards out there though [02:25] yeah [02:25] it's very easy to be one of them [02:25] as Miller showed way back then [02:26] I very much hope I never get into such a situation [02:27] miller... the beer company? dennis miller? [02:27] (sorry, the reference eludes me) [02:27] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:27] eh, milgram [02:27] actually [02:27] I remembered Mil [02:27] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:28] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment [02:28] HomerMunion (n=hmunion@24.159.166.178) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:29] oobe come to linuxsociety [02:29] oh, I've read about this somewhere [02:31] I always liked to think I'd be the guy that would go "WTF? I'm not doing this, screw you!" [02:31] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-kfixjqqvbcpmqntu) joined ##slackware. [02:32] we all like to think that.. and it might be truer for people who hang around here [02:32] IIRC blue-collar time-punch types are way more susceptible [02:32] especially people who hang around here and read about stuff like that [02:33] sorta like the character Rorschach being shown the inkblot tests, he had all the "correct" responses memorized [02:34] hey outstanding|championships [02:34] err Urchlay [02:34] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [02:34] hey frightening|credulity [02:36] (hey, "frightening|credulity" actually sorta fits what we were talking about) [02:37] the nick generator is eerily accurate some times. [02:39] I dunno, before that, it gave me "bowled|eunuch" [02:40] n8 [02:40] after that one, I got: homeomorphisms|boating [02:41] pier (n=borut@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [02:41] not sure I know what "homeomorphisms" means ("same shape" in greek, or something like that) [02:42] alreadygone (n=silas@119.154.46.38) joined ##slackware. [02:42] alreadygone (n=silas@119.154.46.38) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:43] A close similarity in the crystal forms of unlike compounds or a continuous bijection between two figures whose inverse is also continuous. [02:43] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:43] Nick change: pier -> pierr [02:43] errr, yeah [02:43] like a doughnut is homeomorphicto a coffee mug [02:43] does anyone have gmailfs installed [02:44] "bijection" sounds kinda weird. "Don't share needles, especially not when you're bijecting!" [02:44] pierr: I once tried to install it, it never worked, so I gave up (this was 2 or 3 years ago, it might actually work now) [02:44] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:45] i am trying now:9 [02:46] http://pastebin.com/m473b01e0 [02:47] Urchlay: the third one I got was: influenced|involuntarily [02:47] nice [02:48] heh, followed by: painfully|inspecting [02:48] nullm0dem (n=quassel@65-183-140-170-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net) joined ##slackware. [02:50] nullm0dem (n=quassel@65-183-140-170-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net) left irc: "http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere." [03:01] slackboy joined ##slackware. [03:01] pierr (n=borut@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: "User disconnected" [03:01] ZMR_ (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [03:02] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. 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[03:05] i have a police scanner hooked up to my PC via capture (using OSS), what could i use to stream this? [03:05] metriccwrench (n=ii@12.178.212.226) joined ##slackware. [03:06] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:08] icecast :D [03:08] mine \ NoPE [03:09] Refused telnet@proxyscan.freenode.net (invalid handle: CONNECT 2) [03:10] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [03:12] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:14] Error in /home/mail/mutt/.muttrc, line 8: smtp_url: unknown variable [03:14] Error in /home/mail/mutt/.muttrc, line 9: smtp_pass: unknown variable [03:14] why do I get this in mutt in slackware? [03:15] sp4z (n=sp4z@c210-49-70-149.hillc2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [03:15] it donuts like like your rc [03:15] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-246.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:15] Kowalczyk, the mutt in slackware is quite old. You can try installing a newer version. [03:15] haha [03:16] dive: ok... try to use pat's slackbuild for it then.. I will try that:) [03:16] Kowalczyk, http://www.unrealize.co.uk/slackbuilds/13.0/mutt/ [03:16] slack's mutt is from the paleolithic era [03:16] ok :d hehe [03:16] thanks dive :) [03:17] try that [03:17] yes I will [03:17] np [03:19] hey dive [03:19] moning [03:19] dive: how's it going? [03:19] the builders have arrived [03:19] fire|bird: hey, you ever look at stuff like tuxguitar? [03:19] not bad thanks, yourself? [03:20] john_dee (n=id@95-29-9-214.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [03:20] dive: great, thanks. [03:20] Urchlay: yeah, I've messed with tuxguitar before. [03:21] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-uyvbifmlhktbbbxt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:21] does it do chord analysis? (I hook my guitar up to the sound card, play a chord, and it tells me "you are currently playing a G7 chord" or whatever)? [03:21] does diff return a certain value regarding whether or not two files differ? [03:21] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-iccouwxgstzndwkd) joined ##slackware. [03:22] if [ ! `diff file1 file 2` ]; then echo "file differs"; fi ? [03:22] yes [03:22] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-16-29.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: SendQ exceeded [03:22] you don't want backticks there, though [03:22] why not? [03:22] or even [] [03:22] this is for a script. [03:22] yes, I know [03:23] thanks dive :) it worked <3 [03:23] Urchlay: I don't recall it doing anything like that, no. [03:23] np [03:23] StevenR (n=foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:23] the backticks are for interpolating the output of the command (the "diff file1 file2" or whatever) and executing it as bash code [03:23] look at the output of diff sometime, it's definitely not something bash can execute :) [03:23] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [03:24] diff -q [03:24] yes, but you are still not interested in the *output* of diff, only its return value [03:24] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:25] unless you also need the output [03:25] you're right though, you do want to avoid printing diff's output (either with -q, or with "diff blah blah &> /dev/null" or whatever) [03:25] I only want the return value. [03:26] [[ diff filea fileb ]] && echo bla [03:26] the [] aren't needed (or allowed) because you're not doing a "test" command (the [] are just a synonym for "test", which you can read about in "man test") [03:26] bzzzzz (n=user@213.149.138.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:26] you probably want: if diff -q file1 file2 ; then echo "files differ"; fi [03:26] kworrell (n=kworrell@cpe-66-75-0-162.san.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:26] Urchlay, I see. [03:27] hmm mine doesn't work :P [03:27] only I might have it backwards (it might return "true" if they *don't* differ, I can't remember right now) [03:27] RTFM to find out, or write a test script of your own (or do both, I recommend it) [03:27] It seems they return true when they dont differ. [03:27] I'm doing both. Thank you. [03:28] man test was a good tip. [03:28] seeeeek (n=f32rdf@78.154.215.85) left irc: Client Quit [03:28] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [03:29] yeah, very handy... a lot of that info is also in "man bash" but it takes forever to wade through & find it [03:29] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c6290f@gateway/web/freenode/x-vhmryqpbnlfarxjc) joined ##slackware. [03:30] Q [03:30] kworrell (n=kworrell@cpe-66-75-0-162.san.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:30] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-vmoiqykhomrcafnz) joined ##slackware. [03:30] Qail [03:30] Quine [03:32] seems nobody else likes scrabble [03:34] Quack [03:34] my favorite scrabble word was probably "quixotic" [03:35] except IIRC I used it once, and the other player (being a smartass) added "ally" to the end of it [03:37] err, wait, I take back my "Quack" and replace it with Quadruple. :P [03:37] Qi [03:38] hmm didn't line up :P [03:38] lol [03:38] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:38] one space off, on my screen anyway. [03:38] one space too far to the right. [03:38] about 10 here [03:38] haha [03:39] hm, it's only 3/4 of the way over to the right, here [03:41] http://imagebin.org/72094 [03:42] I'm using right aligned nicks so the Q is under the . [03:42] how do right-aligned nicks work, when someone's got a 20-character nick? [03:42] they cut it off [03:43] does the client actually look at the MAXNICK= or whatever from the server, to decide how wide to make the column? [03:43] oh. That sucks. [03:43] I think mine cuts at around 12 chars [03:43] xchat auto-resizes if it's too small. [03:43] well it's not common to see nicks over around 12 chars [03:44] alisonken1home being an exception [03:44] mupi__ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:44] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.31.200) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:45] Yeah, who cares where he is anyway... [03:45] gyroscope (n=master@81.215.27.92) joined ##slackware. [03:45] or his wife's name ;-) [03:46] lol [03:46] I really insist on having all lines start in the same place, horizontally. The way it is in that screenshot drives me mad. [03:47] Guest90738: That theme is one created by dive. ;) [03:47] hmm finally figured out how to get fullscreen in kde - use kwin shortcut instead of in standard [03:47] dive: fullscreen in kde itself, or a specific app? [03:47] yeah I did make one that wasn't right aligned [03:47] fire|bird, all apps [03:47] cool [03:48] all my other themes are right aligned though - it's much easier to read [03:48] Agreed [03:48] dive: somehow though, just noticing, I'm on your old diversity, and not the new one. dang. :P [03:49] I've been using electron for ages now - really like those utf8 symbols [03:49] dive: right. I really don't like the idea of fixed-width fields in the 21st century though :) [03:49] mupi__ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [03:49] Well, machines move on. Humans stay the same stupid bags of water. [03:49] So we need it to be fixed :D [03:49] dive: yeah, that's the one I was thinking of ("new" one) but somehow I was on diversity. :P Either way, thanks for the nice themes. :) [03:50] Guest90738, http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/irssi/index.php some of my irssi themes if you want to try them out [03:50] actually it never even occurred to me that anyone would find it hard to read a screen full of IRC where the lines aren't aligned that way... [03:50] Ah, there we go, back on electron. [03:50] fire|bird, thanks and np [03:50] dive: thanks, I'm an xchat user, though. [03:50] I mean it's the way chats have always looked to me, since the old 300 baud 8-line BBS that ran on an apple II [03:50] need more caffeine [03:51] same here [03:51] I don't suppose irssi can display a nicklist on the right? [03:51] dunno, I think not though [03:51] heh, TBird 3 b4, just went through and automagically found my isp's e-mail servers, also, found my isp's imap server, that is suppose to not exist. Figure that one out. :P [03:51] Guest90738: yes, it can. nicklist script. [03:51] a nicklist wouldn't be all that useful without mouse support or something (so you can actually do stuff with it, instead of just look at it) [03:52] Urchlay: looking is enough for me... though it would have to be able to scroll, I guess. [03:52] especially in here! [03:52] Guest90738: it can scroll, a little annoyingly, but can scroll. [03:53] something like /nicklist up/down or something. I can't remember, I don't use it. [03:53] Hmmm [03:53] working on a redesign of the irc client I wrote for an 8-bit machine with 48K of RAM... trying to figure out what's a good set of compromises [03:53] I dunno... no vowel support? [03:53] vowel support? [03:54] I mean a full nicklist in ##slackware (250+ nicks) would take up a significant percentage of the memory in the box [03:54] and it is quite useless really [03:54] but a complete lack of nicklist is annoying (it should at least do tab-completion, even if there's no room on the screen to keep a nicklist visible) [03:54] fr|brd: yh lk ths [03:55] wld sv lt f mmr [03:55] I used nicklist for a while but not any more [03:55] Guest90738: irssi has a script that removes all vowels from what you type. :) [03:55] so I think my compromise will be to actually search through the screen RAM for nicknames, when the user hits Tab [03:56] so you can tab-complete anyone's nick who has said something "recently" [03:56] You know, this is why we dropped 8-bit machines for desktop usage :D [03:56] dive: yeah, same here, I pretty much just go by, typing the first few letters, hit tab, and then see if whomever is online by if it completes or not. :P [03:56] it's not about being practical, it's about pushing the hardware to its limits [03:57] fire|bird, yeah and /names is ok for small channels [03:57] I seem to inhabit channels with either 300+ people of 3 [03:57] if I were willing to require 128K or 256K of RAM, it'd get a lot easier... but I want the app to work on an unexpanded 1979 model Atari 800 (the current version does) [03:57] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [03:58] The only thing I'd like to work on that is a hammer. [03:58] dude, it's an antique [03:58] Urchlay, how much ram? [03:58] 48K [03:59] I don't plan to make a version for the original 16K 800 :) [03:59] bah you beat my 32k coco [03:59] How does it network? [03:59] SLIP [03:59] and eventually I'll probably do a PPP driver [04:00] and there's a guy who's built an ethernet adaptor for it, but his design isn't really finalized so I haven't tried to write a driver for it [04:00] (s/built/building/ I guess, I dunno if he's got even a partly-working prototype yet) [04:00] Urchlay: that would be awesomeness [04:00] Urchlay: maybe adapting the cartridge ethernet from c64 to your atari [04:01] _rfdrew_ (n=rfdrew@56-53-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:01] the guy was talking about that, apparently the part used in the c64 ethernet cart is hard to come by, these days [04:01] Urchlay: that it is... [04:02] i'd like to see someone put together a retro machine [04:02] Urchlay: you know, no disk, just internal programming environ, etc [04:02] what, a new machine, built with retro tech? [04:02] Urchlay: a new machine with a fully retro design [04:02] there's a thing called the "propellor" that's a bit like that [04:02] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-246.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [04:03] but I dunno details [04:03] Well, time to get going. Later guys. Take care. [04:03] cya [04:03] sp4z (n=sp4z@unaffiliated/sp4z) left irc: "Leaving" [04:03] see ya dive, Urchlay [04:03] Urchlay: the problem with the propellor, it doesn't have its own keyboard controller, or cartridge interface, or even i/o interface aside from ethernet and video [04:03] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [04:04] hm, that would make it hard to count it as a standalone "computer" (it'd be more of a console) [04:05] yeah...the propellor has two means of interacting with the world... [04:05] ethernet and tv out [04:05] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:05] i'd like something that would include that, but have a bit more... [04:05] Nick change: Guest90738 -> eurotrash [04:06] and, honestly, basic worked well for those little machines [04:06] wonder how hard it'd be to add a usb controller to it [04:06] Urchlay: depends on if you're fully willing to put the chipset in and the api to handle it in its own interpreted programming environ [04:06] ugh, basic is horrid (especially when you don't have a decent text editor or any other tools but a READY prompt) [04:07] though I don't really have a good alternative for little machines like that (that can't usefully host their own C compiler or whatever) [04:07] hmm I think my coco could edit lines in some fashion [04:07] edit 10 for ex [04:08] there was a lisp interpreter for the atari8, but it wasn't a full implementation (not knowing lisp, I can't tell what all it was missing) [04:08] if you had to retype the whole line it would be a bind [04:08] dive: the coco required you to type the whole line [04:08] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:08] dive: i had a coco [04:08] nyRednek, not mine, I'm sure, but then I had 'exgtended' color basic [04:09] the A8's basic would let you arrow-up and type over the lines that were showing on the screen (whether they were ones you typed, or output from the LIST command) [04:09] but it's still hideous [04:09] Nick change: NetrixTa1dis -> NetrixTardis [04:09] yeah I don't recall much about it now - it's in the wardrobe boxed up though :D [04:10] no "else" or "else if" clauses, and no while loops, and no parameters to subroutines... and no local variables either [04:10] the absolute worst thing about atari basic though: complete lack of an integer data type [04:10] that must have hideous to work around [04:11] *everything* was floating point, done in software on a 1.79MHz CPU... and the floating point ROM was horribly unoptimized (the programmer assigned to do it, basically just copied from a textbook without fully understanding the algorithms) [04:12] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c6290f@gateway/web/freenode/x-vhmryqpbnlfarxjc) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [04:13] playing around with the floating point ROM once... I wrote a basic program to calculate digits of pi, then rewrote it in assembly (still using the floating point ROM), and the assembly version was only about 30% faster [04:14] you guys should dig out those old coco machines, dust them off, see if they still work [04:14] yeah I might do that [04:14] learn 6809 assembly and such [04:14] port my 8-bit irc client to the coco! [04:14] need to find out what sort of input/output ports it has [04:15] yeah I did 6809 programming on it [04:15] (most of it's written in C and cross-compiled with cc65, I bet most of the C code would be easy to port if you have a halfway decent 6809 cross-compiler) [04:15] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.15.30) joined ##slackware. [04:16] it was quite nice for assembly - passing return values etc [04:16] you had those tasty string instructions [04:16] yeah [04:16] and doesn't the 6809 have a complete set of "mirror" registers? [04:16] Urchlay: mine was destroyed in a thunderstorm [04:16] mirror? [04:17] like a regular set (A, B, whatever they were called) and another set called A' B' etc, and in XCHG instruction to swap them? [04:17] (or was that the z80 or something) [04:17] has X, Y address pointers, S, U stacks, A, B 8bit reg which combine to D 16 bit [04:17] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:17] that's all I can recall [04:17] whatever chip I'm thinking of effectively has two of each register it had, but you could only swap the entire banks of registers [04:18] not the 6809 then [04:18] guess not [04:18] could you do indexed indirect with either index reg? (or were the index registers 16-bit?) [04:19] could someone recommend a good backup tool/script which can do full and incremental backups? [04:19] they were 16 bit I think but I think you could do indirect addressing [04:19] cteg: you could try this: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/amanda/ [04:20] thank you [04:20] cteg: warning: I know nothing about that except that it's a backup system of some kind, and it's called amanda :) [04:20] dive: the 6502's indirect addressing is severely limited [04:20] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:20] ok i'll have a look at that [04:21] 8-bit registers, you had to keep pointers in zero-page RAM, and if your table was >256 bytes, you had to keep updating the high byte of the pointer [04:21] I'm trying to recall exactly what it was like [04:21] and you can only use the Y register for that [04:21] 6502 had 8 bit X and Y? [04:22] hmm guess not [04:22] yea [04:22] 8 bit X and Y [04:23] but wasn't the 6502 later than the 6809 or am I thinking of another? [04:23] more annoyingly, there's no way to use a 16-bit pointer *without* the Y register [04:23] ah [04:24] (well, there's an indirect mode with the X register, but it's useless: it adds the X reg to the pointer's address, instead of the contents of the pointer's address) [04:24] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [04:24] erk [04:26] bleah, this is what happens when I sit in a room full of old computers and drink booze, I wax nostalgic [04:27] I think the biggest problem with the coco is lack of io ports - I once wired up a radio through the a joystick port (on/off switch) but that was limited [04:28] and the 5 1/2 inch floppy drive would regularly brick floppies [04:30] slackie (n=x@87.196.154.185) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:30] hm, the atari drives almost never killed disks [04:31] *don't you ever stop* [04:31] ;_; [04:31] even if you powered the drive on or off with a disk in (which you weren't supposed to do) [04:32] RPMcMurphy (n=elliot@bzq-79-183-118-234.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [04:32] you'd get a bad sector (or several) if you ejected a disk while it was being written to... [04:32] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:32] might be an idea find a 5 -> 3 inch adaptor [04:33] or make one [04:33] I remember copying a copy-protected disk by copying all the readable sectors normally... then for the (deliberately) bad sectors, you'd write a little program to write to those sectors over & over... [04:33] ...and you'd put a piece of scotch tape on the disk so it sticks out of the drive when the disk is in [04:33] tuxdev_ (n=tgoya@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [04:33] I managed to get a 3 1/2 drive working on a amstrad pcw by wiring it up basically [04:34] ...and while the drive's writing to your target sectors, you grab the tape and wiggle the disk around inside the drive [04:34] paissad-hp (n=paissad@89.87.195.22) joined ##slackware. [04:34] thus creating bad sectors in the correct spots, so the bootloader code on the disk would see them where it expected them [04:34] lol [04:35] the first guy to figure that out must have been a genius or something [04:36] (later copy protection schemes were fancier & couldn't be fooled so easily) [04:38] Morn [04:38] moning [04:41] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:42] Grdi (n=Grdi@93.136.119.112) joined ##slackware. [04:43] cteg: !amanda [04:43] cteg: bacula [04:44] cteg: but if bacula is more complex than you need.. rsync / rsnapshot [04:45] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:47] Nick change: RPMcMurphy -> elliot98 [04:48] minux (n=email@76.197.1.246) joined ##slackware. [04:51] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [04:53] Zordrak: ok...i just want to make lets say one full a week to my usbdrive, and daily incremental [04:54] both will do it.. [04:54] rsync sounds good, but i have to figure out how to just sync to another disk [04:54] never used that, except slackmirror script [04:54] rsync's invocation is the same as `cp`.. just with many many many many more options [04:54] Grdi (n=Grdi@93.136.119.112) left irc: "Leaving" [04:55] heh as usual [05:01] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: "leaving" [05:02] tuxdev (n=tgoya@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:04] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.15.30) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:05] latemus (n=m3@c-67-177-49-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:05] i have uncommented listen=yes in /etc/vsftpd.conf, still the server does not run. what else must be done to enable it? [05:05] minux (n=email@76.197.1.246) left irc: [05:05] how are you starting up that bad boy? [05:06] nice found a complete doc for rsync backups with scripts for rotation and all [05:07] try to run it now: /path/to/vsftpd & [05:10] minux (n=email@76.197.1.246) joined ##slackware. [05:13] alice (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:13] isnt vsftpd run by inetd by default? [05:13] cteg: \o/ [05:13] not if he put listen=yes [05:15] alreadygone (n=silas@119.154.46.38) joined ##slackware. [05:16] Phoenix_br (n=chatzill@189-19-71-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:18] hi, I've activated firewall on my Linux machine for just 2-1/2 days and there are already 85,186 DENY entries in my log. Is that normal? [05:19] yes. [05:19] ok, let's take a step back. what does 85,186 mean? also i assume you mean someone's netfilter ruleset when you say firewall, whose? i ask because it seems that they have added logging [05:21] sorry i guess my questions are too hard [05:22] just created firewall rules using fwbuilder. And seeing the log entries using webfwlog. [05:22] Axius (n=fd@92.82.65.75) joined ##slackware. [05:22] mancha? [05:22] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:23] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-fmladyojnpbslczo) joined ##slackware. [05:23] The_Seeker (n=seeker@90.200.153.19) joined ##slackware. [05:25] im starting vsftpd in standalone mode. but after changing /etc/vsftpd.conf to linsten=YES, it still doesnt listen. do i need to add '/path/to/vsftpd &' to rc.local? i'm sure that would work but is that what you would normally do? [05:28] jerry_jon (n=dereck@212.183.134.209) joined ##slackware. [05:28] latemus: well ... yeah.. you have to *start* it [05:28] i see. i'll just do it with rc.local [05:29] you also need bargkground=yes [05:29] you also need background=yes [05:29] then you dont start it with & [05:30] latemus: but.. and i may regret asking this.. why are you running it in standalone instead of inetd? [05:32] because starting it from inetd gives error 500: could not bind ipv4 socket [05:32] and i dont know why [05:33] >.< [05:33] it take it you have a suggestion [05:34] hmm.. actually.. something in my memory is telling me this is a known issue [05:35] clavius2 (i=James@6.sub-70-195-6.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [05:36] can i assume you made sure there were no instances of vsftpd running when you tried it from inetd? [05:37] yes i made sure of that. [05:37] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp091138224052.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:38] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection reset by peer [05:38] silas_ (i=500@119.154.42.207) joined ##slackware. [05:38] and you HUPed inetd after modifying the conf? [05:39] i have had vsftpd working from inetd in the past - years ago. there is no ftp server running, still it cannot bind to socket [05:39] essentially [05:39] and you HUPed inetd after modifying the conf? [05:39] (rebooted) [05:39] kk [05:39] im sure i had this problem.. and i solved it.. but i dont rememeber why or how [05:41] it's probably perms on the ftp dirs [05:41] hmm. im logging in as superuser [05:41] (well, trying) but i guess thats irrelevant [05:42] usually root is prohibited from ftp login [05:42] perhaps it is some other setting in vsftpd.conf [05:42] packeteer: i enabled it in the config file though [05:42] latemus, if run from inetd you need listen=no in the conf, you got that? [05:43] latemus: there's usually a ftpusers file too [05:43] no - just #listen=YES (commented out) [05:43] ill try that [05:43] packeteer: in /etc? [05:43] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.72.104) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:43] ill look for it [05:43] be aware ftpusers is users to *deny* ftp to [05:43] The /etc/ftpusers file contains a list of local user names that the ftpd server does not allow remote File Transfer Protocol (FTP) clients to use [05:44] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-135-83.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:44] ahh [05:44] alreadygone (n=silas@119.154.46.38) left irc: Nick collision from services. [05:44] Nick change: silas_ -> alreadygone [05:44] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:46] mancha: bingo [05:46] good times [05:46] that was it. must specify listen=NO [05:47] thanks all [05:47] celio (n=quassel@189.27.106.64.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:48] alice (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:51] what does auth running on port 113 do [05:52] it tells people who request ident who you are [05:52] The_Seeker (n=seeker@90.200.153.19) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:53] does that present any kind of security risk [05:53] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [05:53] it is a protocol to associate a user to a tcp connection. irc uses it for example [05:54] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [05:54] well any daemon, in theory, is a security risk. the risk is that your identd has a vulnerability that is exploitable. i'd place it towards the bottom of the list of threats though [05:54] rather - can i turn it off [05:54] i see. [05:54] yes you can turn it off [05:55] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.42.207) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [05:56] how can you use it to request ident from someone [05:56] clavius (i=James@241.sub-75-207-30.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:56] you would send a properly formed ident requestion to 113 on target's machine [05:57] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-197-86.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [05:57] sending port-pairs is how it's done. [05:59] so say latemus connects to machine:1111 from port 5555 then machine can send a "5555,1111" to latemus:113 and get a response about the user [05:59] jerry_jon (n=dereck@212.183.134.209) left irc: "Leaving" [06:01] wrodrigues (n=wrodrigu@124.124.229.181) joined ##slackware. [06:01] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [06:02] but what does it say about the user - username? [06:02] latemus: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=identd [06:02] already did :) [06:02] google it [06:03] Axius (n=fd@92.82.65.75) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:03] yes it'll send the username (oftentimes) [06:03] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/13/ventblockers/ [06:03] nice one [06:04] thnkas mancha. very helpful [06:04] welcome [06:09] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:09] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [06:11] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-212-228.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [06:11] tewmten: :o [06:13] hello happy people [06:14] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-197-86.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:14] minux (n=email@76.197.1.246) left irc: [06:16] tewmten: really impressive :P [06:16] Nick change: g4tt0 -> Long-Cat [06:17] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:18] freebse (n=freebse@f055254132.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [06:22] clavius3 (i=James@134.sub-75-205-173.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [06:27] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [06:31] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-212-228.epm.net.co) left irc: "Changing server" [06:36] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.135.107) joined ##slackware. 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[06:52] ok well basically i cant install more then 4 distros on 1xsata drive, if i try install a 5th it will say i need a primary partition, i know the rule for sata is 4 primary drives, but im just not sure how i go about setting it all up, i have googled all over for a proper layout on more then 4 and cant find it, also i want 1 home 1 swap partition the home would cover all distros but again i read some distros add config f [06:52] iles to the home partition so it would over right old config files [06:53] im asking here, because i know most the people here know there stuff [06:54] the boot loader i can manage [06:54] With a dos mbr you can have only 4 primary partitions [06:54] for more than that you need logical partitions in an extended partiton [06:54] ok but [06:55] Baisuoklis (n=opera@174.240.9.217.ip.erdves.lt) joined ##slackware. [06:55] Do not share one /home across different distros.. you will screw your desktop environment [06:55] sharing swap is fine [06:55] so theres no way to have 1 partition to share them all with? [06:55] hello [06:55] to share files.. create a different share dir that isnt /home [06:55] like for music etc [06:55] ^ [06:55] stuff i download* [06:56] mkdir -p /mnt/store;mount /dev/sdaX /mnt/store [06:56] just dont share /home [06:56] do i need* to make a /home then? [06:56] could i just install multiple / and 1 swap [06:58] freebse (n=freebse@f055254132.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:58] i personally use /home/shared [06:58] theres no need to create a separate partiton for anything except swap [06:58] personally i would share /boot [06:59] yeah, /boot is a good one, if you can keep the kernels from mangling each other(if you use a custom kernel, no biggie) [06:59] sda1 Primary /boot, sda2 primary Swap, sda3 Extended (/ distro1, / distro2, / distro 3) [07:00] how many distros you think i could get on the sda3? [07:00] I encoutered a problem, i'm trying to compile a custom firmware on a Slackware 13 (full install) box for an asus router using this guide: http://code.google.com/p/wl500g/wiki/CompilingCustomFirmware. It seems i have all the necessary packages, but i'm confused about libncurses-dev and zlib development packages. Zlib and ncurses are installed but i dont see any "-dev" packages [07:00] where could i get them [07:00] fluke: as many as you have space fo [07:00] or how could i install them [07:01] Zordrak, o ok cool :) [07:01] is it some thing like make headers-install?? [07:01] Baisuoklis: slackware doesnt have separate -dev pkgs [07:01] Baisuoklis: everything you need is in the main pkg [07:01] Zordrak: ugh [07:01] ahh [07:01] and the header files too? [07:02] Baisuoklis: splitting out the dev is for silly little desktop distros [07:02] agreed [07:02] Baisuoklis: kernel headers are a separate pkg.. other headers arent [07:02] freebse (n=freebse@f055254132.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [07:02] hmmm... [07:03] Zordrak: if i have ncurses and zlib packages then header files fot those installed too? [07:03] yes [07:03] or at least they *should* be [07:03] i need to add .desktop files to my slackbuilds [07:03] ok, so i can go annoy firmware developers if compile fails? :) [07:03] Baisuoklis: depends on why it fails [07:03] it failz when patching zlib [07:04] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [07:04] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [07:04] does it complain that something is missing or that it just couldnt patch [07:04] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [07:04] it is usually just mail so that is why I think she was trying to get to u but got the wrong juno [07:05] Zordrak: umm.. I dont remember the exact error, gonna try sinc'ing with newest svn and see is that error pops up again [07:05] will reort in a few minutes [07:06] report* [07:06] Nick change: sam___ -> sam_0_ [07:06] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [07:07] sam_0_ (i=500@59.93.240.25) left irc: "leaving" [07:07] where are the menu items for xfce/kde installed again? [07:07] Zero_ultimatum (n=kashyap@117.199.165.60) joined ##slackware. [07:08] /usr/share/applications/ [07:08] /usr/share/applications/kde/ [07:08] Zordrak: thanks [07:08] i bought a usb-mp3 1g player and the instructions said "plug in to charge, stops blinking when full" it's been ten or more days, it's still blinking. heh [07:09] Zordrak: i'm going to have to update some slackbuilds i submitted [07:09] now, do i need to prepare the mp3 files in a particular way for tranferal to the dev? [07:09] shyko (n=francisc@187.39.217.37) joined ##slackware. [07:09] i have no clue what to do; do i mount and cp? [07:09] it's a generic mp3 [07:10] tripFantastic: are you in KDE4? [07:10] nop; generally console, but blackbox is running [07:10] nyRednek: the templates already have the relevant lines for .desktop files.. [07:11] tripFantastic: then yeah.. mount, cp [07:11] or rsync [07:11] ok; what about filenames and dirs? how does the internal player program process a dirtree? [07:11] tripFantastic: read the documentation for the player [07:11] no docs [07:11] ugh.. [07:11] google [07:12] it's a generic device i bought @Target [07:12] it's REALLY generic [07:12] then try it and see [07:12] k [07:12] fluke (n=fluke@86-45-85-201-dynamic.b-ras2.srl.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [07:12] ay final advice? [07:12] any [07:12] ... dont eat yellow snow? [07:13] ok tyvm but there's none in Fla. [07:13] lol [07:13] wnna send some down? [07:13] down? [07:13] Zordrak: i lied, error is not about zlib. Can not apply lzma457.patch cleanly; make: *** [/asus/broadcom/src/lzma] Error 1 [07:13] to fla [07:13] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.199.222.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:13] any ideas? [07:14] read the patch [07:14] Baisuoklis: check that the file its trying to patch existis [07:15] ok, one moment [07:22] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [07:24] fonseg (n=bnguyen@118.71.161.155) joined ##slackware. [07:24] Hello Everyone :) [07:25] well files to be patched apear to be in place [07:26] is there a GUI frontend for managing bluetooth in slackware/xfce? i always have to type some command to send files over my phone, which is time-consuming. [07:27] fonseg: not that i know of. I do not know of one at all in any distro [07:28] Baisuoklis: then its time to speak to the patch writers. [07:28] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.199.222.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:30] Nick change: Long-Cat -> LongLongCat [07:30] Zordrak: dont know what name it is, but i see in fedora/xfce or xubuntu (both livecd) an icon on taskbar for bluetooth. maybe it's a gnome app. [07:30] Zordrak: thx for help, gonna poke around a lilbit. Maybe i'll find the source of the problem. There is a support forum, but folks the wasnt werry responsive [07:30] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:39) joined ##slackware. [07:30] fonseg: it may be kdebluetooth. [07:31] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [07:31] howdy folks :-) [07:32] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.199.222.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:32] hi there [07:33] LongLongCat (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "changing servers" [07:33] i've read alot about you macavity [07:33] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:33] on noobfarm :P [07:33] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [07:33] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.199.222.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:34] oh well.. if you hang out in here for a while you will end up on noobfarm yourself :P [07:34] lol [07:35] caio (n=caio@190.244.41.20) joined ##slackware. [07:35] Nick change: caio -> Guest14448 [07:36] so, new to slackware? [07:37] not quite [07:37] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [07:37] been using it on and off for a few years now [07:37] good.. that means more people able to support in here ;-) [07:37] fonseg (n=bnguyen@118.71.161.155) left irc: "leaving" [07:37] yup [07:38] if i can, i always help [07:38] 13 or -current? [07:38] 13 [07:38] the KDE in -current is nice :-) [07:38] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-135-83.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [07:39] hmm. might give it a go. kde version in slack13 kinda sucks [07:39] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-135-83.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:39] tho i'm still using it :) [07:40] had to disable compositing to make damn thing stable enough to be usable [07:40] intel graphics? [07:40] jup [07:41] which one? [07:41] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: [07:42] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) [07:42] ok, same as thrice` [07:42] and lspci dont lie [07:42] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) joined ##slackware. [07:42] he has .SlackBuilds for the latest intel+mesa+drm+kernel [07:42] he says it runs fast and rock solid.. maybe you should give him a ping [07:43] i have 945, so all i needed to change was a kernel upgrade with KMS enabled [07:43] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-fmladyojnpbslczo) left irc: [07:43] yeah, now not at the moment. now i'm having trouble compiling custom firmware for one of my asus routers [07:44] well they are dlink router to be exact [07:44] i was part of the testing effort for the graphics just prior to 13.. things were in a f*cking mess at that time [07:44] oh, then you probably need to talk to antiwire [07:44] but hardware wise they are identical, dlink one even have more ram [07:44] he is the local openwrt/ddwrt guru [07:45] he's not here atm as i see. Zordrak was helpfull [07:45] antiwire is awesome when it comes to stuff like that [07:45] but was unable to solve my problem [07:46] heh [07:46] i just managed to flash a fonera2100 the other day.. the kolofonium hack did wonders :P [07:46] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-mevzccrmogivlhig) joined ##slackware. [07:46] macavity: whre are you from? [07:46] Denmark [07:47] is there any wimax networks there? [07:47] not really [07:47] it's a stupid standard anyhow.. they should have given it free for private use [07:48] well maybe [07:48] i wor at a company that have a license to install wimax [07:48] its of little use for corporate needs, as it simply cant deliver the bandwidth needed.. but lots of cool stuff could be done with it if regular people could set up a wimax AP [07:49] and so far ppl here are not too exited about it [07:49] exactly [07:49] but imagine being able to make a wireless connection for some 10km [07:50] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-4-88.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:50] i know quite a few people in this neighbourhood.. we would probably just team up on a seriously big land line and share it.. and set up a few nice services on the LAN too :P [07:50] well what i'm tring to do is sell dlink routers which are configured in such a way that router gets connection wia wimax, and klients behind it get internet via wifi ir ethernet [07:51] which dlink routers have wimax cards? [07:51] but i run into trouble building custom firmware [07:51] none :) [07:51] then how does that work? [07:51] dlink dir320 has an usb port [07:51] ah, ok [07:52] and basicaly u connect wimax usb dongle to it [07:52] ant it work [07:52] and the stock openwrt builds dont cope with network via usb? [07:52] damn my english is sucky [07:52] i get you [07:52] kukukk (n=dvorak@188.24.67.145) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:53] stock one no as far as i know [07:53] u need madwimax drivers [07:53] and libusb [07:53] your english is much better then most the baltic people we see in here :P [07:53] ah, roger that [07:54] yes, you probably need to rig a cross compiler for MIPS and do those yourself, open the image, copy the stuff in, and close it up again [07:54] there is a modified version of asus firmware that has drivers and necesiary stuff integrated [07:54] you should look at CLFS [07:54] thats the authorative guide on how to set up a complete cross compiling system [07:54] there is a tutorial: http://code.google.com/p/wl500g/wiki/CompilingCustomFirmware [07:54] basicaly, downoad, untar, mak [07:54] e [07:55] and you can even use qemu to test your build [07:55] but i'm getting an error patching lzma [07:57] gonna annoy developers when i'm back home, problem is they russian, and doesnt seem very responsive to help requests [07:57] i would look a lot more into this than just try to follow some guide.. [07:58] well, basicaly all i need is to remove acouple of links from router interface... [07:58] but then again.. i used to do a new LFS a week back in the day :P [07:58] heh [07:58] for how long u;ve been using linux macavity? [08:01] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [08:01] my first distro was RedHat 5.1 [08:01] it sucked :P [08:02] i dont remember what year that was.. [08:02] My first one was slack :) i played with mandrake etc.. but my first was definitely slackj [08:02] heh, i started with rh too, in 98 i guess [08:02] yeah.. something like that [08:02] gnubien (n=e@209.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:03] as a spoiled windows user i liked that it was all GUIey [08:03] but it was horrible to use [08:03] this howto is written in poor english.. and it doesnt really explain what the fsck is going on [08:03] yup [08:03] I started with Slackware because it was the first distribution that worked on my old IBM PS/2 [08:04] heh [08:04] slack works on pretty much every thing [08:04] Must have been 1993 or 94./ [08:04] i know that OpenWRT supports those Asus/dlink routers to [08:04] too* [08:04] maybe you should try them instead [08:05] from what antiwire says, its not that hard to costomize an OpenWRT build [08:05] if it's too old make a router out of it, a little more power - hell that'll make adecent server for personal webpage [08:05] how many routers/webservers does one need?!? :P [08:06] macavity: i poked around openwrt forums, not much info there. [08:06] all of them :) [08:06] MOAR servurz [08:06] j/k [08:07] Baisuoklis: https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=9180 [08:07] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.173.212) joined ##slackware. [08:08] "Assuming you are using Ubuntu" [08:08] this is a walk in the park [08:09] and you have all the packages installed [08:09] Ludakrintin (n=krintin@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [08:09] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:09] "aptitude install build-essential binutils flex bison autoconf gettext texinfo sharutils subversion libncurses5-dev ncurses-term zlib1g-dev" is covered by a full slackware install [08:10] macavity: agreed, that is covered by a full slack install [08:10] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-vmoiqykhomrcafnz) left irc: [08:11] macavity: i have a full install, exept emacs, tetex ant tcl [08:11] Baisuoklis: when you "make prereq" it might bitch at you over this or that.. but most likely slackbuilds.org has it [08:11] tcl is actually used in a couple of places IIRC [08:11] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.72.253) joined ##slackware. [08:12] humm [08:12] yes.. i always install tcl too [08:12] "Tool Controll Language" [08:12] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.135.107) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:12] I typically drop emacs, but install everything else [08:12] ok, gonna install that now and try again [08:12] *control [08:12] good point [08:13] i just install everything.. i dont care about those last few hundred megs [08:13] 10GB / 88GB /home and 2GB swap [08:14] and i install very little else than slackware.. yakuake, libdvdcss and lame :P [08:15] PuppetMaster (n=Project@unaffiliated/puppetmaster) joined ##slackware. [08:15] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) joined ##slackware. [08:17] man.. it is raining cats and dogs here now :-/ [08:17] well for my work box i didnt install much too, wine was needed as i need to run winbox [08:17] lots of mikrotik router around here [08:17] :) [08:19] well instaling tcl didnt help :/ [08:19] Baisuoklis: ok, i just read over the above build guide.. and *man* that is dead easy [08:20] i expect that adding a package more to the menuconfig system (like libusb if it isnt there all ready) wont be a problem at all [08:20] hmm [08:20] will look more into that later today [08:21] they even have "make toolchain/install" to set up the cross compiler for you [08:21] how easy can it get? :P [08:22] heh [08:23] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: Connection timed out [08:25] could you point me to a voip software i could use? [08:25] it would be really nice if it had encryption [08:25] i only know skype [08:25] which is a rather poor solution [08:26] pidgin NG is supposed to have something in the works, but don't know when [08:27] NG? [08:27] next gen [08:27] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) left irc: "Leaving" [08:27] macavity: what's to be the difference? [08:27] i dont know.. i try to stay clear of GTK apps [08:28] i only have firefox and wicd left that look and feel odd [08:28] Azeotrope: there's also ekiga [08:28] macavity: i use wicd-ncurses [08:28] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl10-136-21.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:29] obviously that would look even more out of place in KDE ;-) [08:29] s/ncurses/curses [08:29] macavity: but not in fvwm [08:29] technically it is ncurses "new curses implementation" [08:29] macavity: my im: centerim [08:29] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:29] macavity: technically, the binary in the package is wicd-curses [08:30] ah, right [08:30] i miss read [08:30] slackie (n=x@87-196-154-185.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:30] rubick (n=rc@unaffiliated/rubick) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:30] macavity: my mail app: alpine [08:31] i get the picture [08:31] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:32] you are l33ter than us [08:32] wicked [08:32] thrice`: i'm not quite 1337 [08:33] mmmmm fish'n'chips [08:33] oh :( [08:33] thrice`: you had .SlackBuilds of your intel/drm/mesa setup, right? [08:33] Zordrak: nice. [08:33] Baisuoklis has 965 too, and it craps out on him with composite [08:33] I do, but not comfortable sharing them with an average person, as it probably isn't advised :) [08:33] that would be kwin's composite, probably? [08:34] yes [08:34] just give him the regular disclaimer: "if it breaks you get to keep both halfs" :P [08:35] thrice`: but quite honestly, i've been using slack longer than most [08:35] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [08:35] thrice`: i remember when gnome was part of the xap series [08:36] most of the old rats in here do :P [08:36] no kidding :) [08:36] macavity: i'm not an old rat of the channel, but an old rat of the distro [08:36] i was on LFS when it was removed.. comming to the exact same conclusion :P [08:37] actually, I never used it before gnome/ existed [08:38] i used slackware first, introduced to it by a friend [08:38] Nick change: init[1]|SL -> init[1] [08:38] used redhat a little, actually paid for a copy of redhat(8) and used ubuntu for a short period of time [08:38] I've just not understood people thinking how cool they are for using CLI only apps, when I think it's retarded :D [08:38] just wish i knew wy the brown brigade love gnome so much... while eoveryone else is dumping it [08:39] thrice`: i'm used to the apps, they work well for me, so i use them [08:39] gnome = group ubuntu hug:) [08:40] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [08:40] well, ubuntu isn't the only system promoting gnome [08:40] whats the default in fedora? [08:40] I know, just couldn't resist [08:40] macavity: gnome [08:40] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-194-251.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:40] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [08:40] the default in solaris is "java desktop"(more gnome)\ [08:40] lol [08:41] how is everyone else dumping it? [08:41] rather than just bitch at them for being wrong.. i want to know what it is about that POS that makes people like it [08:41] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:41] fedora, ubuntu, and SLED all push gnome because it's stable. kde4 is a piece of shit, I wouldn't dump it on professional people either [08:41] i need your suggestions,well,this is for a birthday surprise for my friend,i'm gonna gift him a pendrive,i would like to execute a script in pendrive,which ofcourse would be hidden,and run the script when he pulgs in (autrun type),which would be good way to do it,adding a cron entry to run the script or udev(i have physical acess to his system (even root)) ? [08:42] Axius (n=ade@92.85.215.183) joined ##slackware. [08:42] he is using SW 13 ;) [08:42] init[1], nope, a udev rule for that specific thumb drive [08:42] udev can execute scripts upon plugging in a certain device [08:42] Zordrak: it looks different from windows, but is still so gui that even a brain-dead windows user can work it easily [08:42] eg, plug in a specific external USB-HD, run ~/bin/back-up-my-crap.sh [08:43] thrice`: btw that script is within the pendrive , [08:43] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [08:43] oooh..hmph [08:44] thrice`: like i have noticed that,when we mount,it mounted with the device name, [08:44] auto mount via udev then exec [08:44] maybe add a sleep call in there, if it isn't quick enough [08:44] i mean name of the disk, [08:44] $( sleep 5 && sh /media/DEVICE/.secret_script.sh ) [08:44] oh do udev would be a better option, [08:45] hm,that means i will have to name the brand new pen drive,then gift him, [08:45] you can write a udev rule that will ONLY apply to that particular thumb drive (and not any thumb-drive he plugs in) [08:45] if you have access to the box.. why bother putting it on the pen? [08:45] just put it on the box [08:45] Zordrak: yea ,thats good point ;) [08:47] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: "just to eat" [08:50] dive^ (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. 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[09:03] but http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/qemu-kvm/ probably is [09:04] orite... i thought qemu-kvm was an addon to qemu that required qemu modification [09:04] does qemu-kvm replace qemu al-together? [09:04] um.. i dont know.. im asking you :) [09:05] oh, ok :) well, I maintain qemu on SBo, but someone else submitted qemu-kvm, which I hadn't heard of until I saw it in the changelog [09:05] humph [09:05] clijunkie (i=1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) left ##slackware. [09:05] so, there is qemu, kqemu, kvm, and qemu-kvm ? [09:05] i dont *entirely* get it [09:06] I guess qemu is still useful for processors that don't support kvm ? [09:08] this is with the intention of running an arm compiler built for sparc [09:08] i would expect kvm to be rully useful [09:10] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) joined ##slackware. [09:11] Ludakrintin (n=krintin@41.223.57.74) left irc: Client Quit [09:11] thrice`: it doesnt *look* like it replaces qemu [09:11] but i dont know qemu so i could be vrong [09:13] PuppetMaster (n=Project@unaffiliated/puppetmaster) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:14] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [09:14] Hey everyone. [09:15] Zordrak, ok :) I don't understand it either [09:16] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [09:16] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [09:18] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [09:19] greetings [09:21] hello The-Croupier [09:21] hitest: hiya,,,, hows things going these days? [09:21] hows slackware...;) [09:22] The-Croupier, things are going pretty well, ty:) how are things with you? Slackware is perfection. [09:22] hitest: i did something stupid...:( [09:23] ? [09:23] i put an openbsd cd in the dvd-drive.... thought i would get the option to check what partitions to use...etc.... and guess what .... [09:23] ;) [09:23] uh-oh [09:23] wiped the drive? [09:24] now i have to find a way to partition it again...and add slackware and add lilo/grub...etc... [09:24] bummer [09:24] goddamn it ;) [09:24] hitest: yep ;) [09:24] its alright though...im learning something new which i really needed [09:24] hitest: still a slackware fun though ;) [09:24] Action: The-Croupier loves it [09:25] agreed. slackware is awesome. i also learn a lot when I fubar a system:) [09:25] clavius2 (i=James@55.sub-75-206-157.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [09:25] hitest: i know... [09:26] lots of fun....have fun setting up your fresh slack install, man:) [09:26] hitest: i always do..;) [09:26] everytime i get more ideas with the kernel..what is that about... [09:26] yep, me too:) love it [09:27] Desiderius (n=dc@pth77-1-88-171-241-225.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:27] everytime i remove more pkgs in the install ... learn more stuff...read more....its awsome [09:27] kukukk (n=dvorak@188.24.67.21) joined ##slackware. [09:27] i learnt alot with openbsd as well... and slackware helped sooooo much... [09:28] hey Croupier :-) [09:28] macavity: hey bro..;) how are you? [09:28] Action: hitest needs to power down his LAN in 90 minutes.....the brain trust that runs our power company is doing maintenance on the power grid:( [09:29] hitest: aww :-/ [09:29] heh [09:29] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-244.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:29] Cern is going to start the LHC on friday, hopefully we can buy snowglobes with miniture blackholes in them at the gift shop [09:29] The-Croupier: im all good, you? [09:29] im learning learning learning...and loving it ;) [09:29] Pig_Pen: now *that* whould be someting! :P [09:29] macavity: off-line for 60 minutes:) [09:29] there is something new to do ;) [09:31] hitest: oh gosh, what will you do?!? :P [09:31] The-Croupier: so, what kind of mess have you gotten yourself into this time? [09:31] attempting to build gnome? :P [09:31] macavity: I'm not sure......maybe talk to my wife?!.........heh. [09:31] hitest: wauw.. you can DO that? [09:32] who was it was making an updating mesa package some time ago? [09:32] macavity: i did install openbsd and fluxbox...and accidentally removed first partition(slackware) [09:32] Strike (n=Strike@79.107.184.236) joined ##slackware. [09:32] Xaviertoor (n=Xavierto@189-015-84-251.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:32] now trying to dual boot slackware and openbsd...on my small laptop.... [09:33] dive: thrice.. but you can just use the regular mesa.SlackBuild and fiddle it to the new source version [09:33] hello to everyone! [09:33] hello to you too! [09:33] macavity, got a make error but I'll try the slackbuild thanks [09:33] hi Strike [09:33] dive: is this the 7.6 series? [09:33] hello the-croupier iam kostas from network! [09:33] macavity, yes [09:34] hey Strike ;) [09:34] dive: you may need a new libdrm methinks [09:34] damn [09:34] Action: The-Croupier admits that Strike is another of The-Croupier's students converted to slackware ;) [09:34] cool [09:34] yeah! [09:34] cleverbot.com = WolfRam Alpha for dummies [09:35] dive: these days you always better get the whole shabang.. especially if you have Intel [09:35] didn't want to get too hung up on updating - got black screen with glxgears.. [09:35] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:35] no it's Radeon [09:35] fatherx (i=1000@abraham.sh.cvut.cz) joined ##slackware. [09:35] ok.. then probably only drm, kernel and mesa :P [09:35] ouch [09:35] or just not use opengl [09:36] icaro (n=icaro@unaffiliated/icaro) joined ##slackware. [09:36] 2nd option I think [09:36] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:37] Have you tried just updating to the Mesa package in -current? (Assuming you are using Slackware 13)... [09:38] adamk, no [09:38] but that would also need updated drm etc I'm guessing [09:38] I will try it later [09:39] uhm, -current is on mesa-7.5.1 [09:39] StevenR_ (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:39] macavity: hows you? what else you up to...;) [09:40] slackware's installation is difficult? [09:40] dive, Right, but mesa in slackware 13 is just at 7.5. It's possible that 7.5.1 fixes his problem. [09:40] And it doesn't require updating libdrm. [09:40] Last I heard, anyway. [09:40] i'm about done coughing.. and i think this is the first day i am fully fever free, so i am not up to much more than just socializing in here, and maybe make some good food later [09:40] adamk, ok gonna try it [09:41] So it's a hopefully an easy thing to check before compiling all those other bits from source :-) [09:41] cool, let us know how it goes. [09:41] macavity: good to hear. the flu is working its way through my family, I've got a cough/cold this am. [09:42] Strike: go do the things i told you [09:42] ok! [09:42] Strike: go read the things i told you ;) [09:42] yes. iam downloading it now. [09:43] Strike: read the slackbook by the time it downloads it ;) [09:43] so that way you will know ... [09:43] knowing is alot better than asking ;) [09:44] ok thanks! [09:45] adamk, thanks for the tip - that's cured the glxgears problem, not to try fix kwin composite [09:45] The-Croupier: have you tried freebsd? it is my favourite of the BSDs. [09:46] hitest... i thought trying openbsd first ;) [09:46] you know close it alittle bit ;) and then see what i can do with the free stuff ;) [09:46] slackie (n=x@87-196-154-185.net.novis.pt) left irc: "Papaver Somniferum" [09:46] The-Croupier: I haven't tried openbsd, I'll be curious to hear how you like it:) [09:47] clavius3 (i=James@134.sub-75-205-173.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:47] dive, This is with a radeon 7500? [09:47] yeah mobility 7500 [09:48] when I enable desktop effects get a 'sorry' message [09:50] You can supposedly tell kwin to not run it's checks and just enable compositing, but I've had issues with that in the past where it still refused. [09:50] Yet the next time I restart KDE it's fine. [09:51] tried that - still get 'sorry...' [09:51] Have you tried the render backend instead of the opengl one? [09:51] what? SBo doesnt have gltron :P [09:51] yep [09:52] good morning everyone [09:52] moning [09:52] StevenR (n=foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:52] hitest... honestly im loving it ;) [09:53] its sooo clean... it has the pkg philosophy like slackware+ it has dependency check and stuff... [09:53] just awesome so far... [09:53] The-Croupier: cool [09:53] gotta do some supermarket shoping now though...i will be back on tonight.. ;) from bsd trying to get slackware working too ;) [09:53] bye [09:54] hitest: but i love it so far...;) [09:54] hope to see you in here soon ;) [09:54] regards everyone ;) see you soon ;) [09:54] yep, I'll be on tonight:) [09:54] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [09:55] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp091138224052.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [09:55] andreas-- (n=andy@91.138.224.52) joined ##slackware. [09:56] Zero_ultimatum (n=kashyap@117.199.165.60) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:56] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [09:56] Xaviertoor (n=Xavierto@189-015-84-251.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:57] great.. sourceforge is down :-/ [09:58] macavity: works here [09:58] no its not. [10:00] its working here also [10:00] i get a "error 500" here [10:00] and i cant wget http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/gltron/ gltron-0.70-source.tar.gz [10:00] uhm, minus the space [10:01] try s/dl/downloads/ [10:02] works here ---> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/gltron/gltron-0.70-source.tar.gz [10:03] yay [10:03] same with dl [10:03] neonflux: dl and download didnt work, but downloads did.. the first two just hung [10:04] yeah, dl hung at first for me as well, but then it finally found an address [10:05] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.173.212) joined ##slackware. [10:09] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [10:09] is SDL_sound still a seperate package? [10:09] Strike (n=Strike@79.107.184.236) left irc: "Leaving" [10:09] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-mevzccrmogivlhig) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:10] tuxdev__ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:11] ah, never mind [10:11] morning~ [10:12] morning [10:12] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-duaraodfxdbziaoz) joined ##slackware. [10:12] Desiderius (n=dc@pth77-1-88-171-241-225.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [10:19] hello tuxdev [10:20] tuubaaku_ (n=tuubaaku@h30.2.130.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [10:22] ok.. apparently gltron wont compile against Mesa 7.5 [10:23] woo.. my 1u servers just arrived [10:23] Action: macavity steals them [10:23] nice [10:23] macavity, That strikes me as odd... I'm fairly certain I've done that on FreeBSD... [10:23] glwt [10:24] i now have 10 of them.... [10:24] and theyre all gonna be running...... [10:24] CentOS :'( [10:24] Axius (n=ade@92.85.216.74) joined ##slackware. [10:24] need SELinux? [10:24] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [10:24] HEYLL no [10:25] company policy? [10:25] need gridengine and RHEL binary compatibility [10:25] ah [10:26] |mel| (i=1000@117.255.75.227) joined ##slackware. [10:26] macavity, what's the error? [10:26] adamk: i get: "fonttex.c:54: error: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness [10:26] bbl [10:26] tuxdev__:^^ [10:27] fonttex.c:55: error: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'glGenTextures' differ in signedness [10:27] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:27] user51 (i=c747d65e@gateway/web/freenode/x-edkbgnqgnnhbrupx) joined ##slackware. [10:27] then the last error appears agin on line 82, and make bails out [10:28] you can run gridengine on any linux essentially. another story is rhel binary compatibility [10:28] macavity: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13591 see the comments. i bet one of those patches fixes it. [10:28] That is strange. I wonder if I have any machines with Mesa 7.5 on them at the moment. [10:29] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-yevmeoilpxedstbf) joined ##slackware. [10:30] seems that error has been there for quite a while [10:30] Hmm... I need SDL_sound.h [10:30] adamk: http://icculus.org/SDL_sound/downloads/SDL_sound-1.0.3.tar.gz [10:31] Hmmm.. No slackbuild I see. [10:32] Well, since sahk0 found that link, I'm not sure I care enough now to continue :-) That seems to be the same problem that you are having. [10:33] Wow, I didn't realize that gltron hadn't been updated in so long. [10:33] sahk0: absolutely.. the debian patch seems to be the right one [10:33] big_bass (i=0@unaffiliated/bigbass/x-81725) joined ##slackware. [10:33] <|mel|> Lately, my mouse server has stopped loading at startup. I move my mouse, but no cursor. I then have to run /etc/rc.d/rc.gpm as root, manually. Then the cursor appears. [10:33] macavity: if you look at the PKGBUILD it says the debian patch is x86_64 specific one [10:33] but you know best [10:34] tuubaaku (n=tuubaaku@h86.41.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:34] adamk, found a fix and now have effects on my T42 [10:34] a bit slow but wth [10:35] What was the fix? [10:35] well.. now it compiled [10:35] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [10:36] http://forum.compiz.org/showthread.php?t=6476 this helped [10:36] need boomark it perhaps [10:36] also I ticked not to do checks and changed renderer to XRender [10:37] nullm0dem (n=quassel@65-183-140-170-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net) joined ##slackware. [10:37] yessir, now it works [10:38] sahk0: thx a bunch :-) [10:38] dont throw those old printers away, make a musical instrument out of it http://synthgear.com/2009/diy/guitar-robot-inkjet-plinkjet/ [10:38] np [10:38] sahk0, show off [10:38] :) [10:39] Desiderius (n=dc@pth77-1-88-171-241-225.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:39] Desiderius (n=dc@pth77-1-88-171-241-225.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:43] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:43] ok.. this game gets borring SO fast :P [10:44] you need other humans [10:44] which game? [10:44] that's why it was decently popular in arcades [10:44] gltron? [10:45] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:45] LAN is not implemented yet [10:45] dive: yes [10:45] macavity, Have you tried armagetronad ? [10:46] slackie (n=x@87.196.154.185) joined ##slackware. [10:46] nope [10:46] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:46] Action: macavity googles [10:46] Action: slackie hi there \o [10:47] hi slackie [10:47] hi [10:47] psyber (n=psyber@pool-71-240-139-131.hrbgpa.btas.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:48] adamk: looks like the same engine [10:48] even the same light cycle models [10:48] Not sure if it supports networking... Just thought I'd throw that out there :-) [10:50] ah, it apparently DOES support networking [10:50] Shoot... It won't compile here either. [10:50] It's a conspiracy. [10:50] is there any way I can save a "route" table [10:50] adamk: you can probably apply the same patches [10:51] it has a standalong client and a standalone server [10:51] No, different error. [10:51] like iptables-save and restore but for route [10:51] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [10:51] macavity, Doesn't appear at all related to mesa: http://pastebin.com/m85ce315 [10:52] ouch [10:52] adamk: shoot yourself [10:52] adamk, that looks like it might be an include missing [10:52] |mel| (i=1000@117.255.75.227) left ##slackware. [10:53] gcc 4.x.x is very strict about that [10:53] ^yeah [10:53] meybe SDL network [10:53] rubick (n=rc@unaffiliated/rubick) joined ##slackware. [10:53] memset is a function from one of the std libs I think [10:53] sahk0: http://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_net/release/SDL_net-1.2.7.tar.gz [10:54] cstring [10:54] put an #include in there [10:55] I had a few problems with some sources when updating SBs for 13.0 + gcc 4.3.3 [10:55] maybe the beta version will have that solved [10:55] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:57] dive, That seems to have gotten me further, but it still dies. [10:57] whats the error now? [10:57] In any case, I actually need to get some work done today, so I'm going to give this a rest for now :-) [10:57] ok ;-) [10:58] adamk: try a newer version of armagetronad --> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/armagetronad/armagetronad-testing/0.2.8.3_rc4/armagetronad-0.2.8.3_rc4.src.tar.bz2 [10:58] oh, beware [10:58] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:59] amargretronad wants to create users on the system if you dont pass --disable-sysinstall [10:59] wow that's a bit much for a game :o [10:59] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:00] Downloading it now. I might try to compile it this afternoon, but if someone gets to it before me, and it works, please let me know :-)( [11:01] dive: the sources can be used to build both client, client with server, or dedicated server [11:01] HomerMunion (n=hmunion@24.159.166.178) joined ##slackware. [11:01] dive: in all honesty, i think its good that they make it hard for people to run the server as root by accident [11:02] looks like 3 SBs there then, or an interactive one [11:02] braintix (n=bck@unaffiliated/braintix) left irc: "Leaving" [11:02] for anyone interested, i just had a lag-free 20 minute audio call with a winxp user in france using the google talk app (not gmail). [11:02] from pidgin, i mean. [11:02] nice [11:02] nice [11:03] I haven't seen a decent video/audio call yet, but hopefully that is improving at the same rate [11:04] nullm0dem (n=quassel@65-183-140-170-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:04] zerosoul13 (n=angel@201.171.102.72) joined ##slackware. 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[11:07] dive: thanks [11:07] think ill just throw acronis at them [11:08] macavity, looks include [11:09] dunno about that pone [11:09] one* [11:09] yeah looks like [11:10] dive: yes, i just came to the same.. hang on [11:10] ok, it goes now.. two times cstring and one time memory missing so far :P [11:11] apparently this program hasnt been compiled since the release of gcc-4.3 :P [11:11] yeah I don't know who to moan at about that - gcc devs or bad code writers [11:11] most of the ones I had problems with were very old [11:11] ChArLoK_16 (n=chatzill@82.137.203.132) joined ##slackware. [11:11] celio (n=quassel@189.27.106.64.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:12] hadn't been updated for 5 years or so [11:12] fluke (n=fluke@86-45-85-201-dynamic.b-ras2.srl.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [11:13] Desiderius (n=dc@pth77-1-88-171-241-225.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:13] ok, upto 4 times cstring :P [11:13] sorry, 5 :P [11:13] when you've done make a patch [11:15] How many computers do you guys have on your network (at home)? [11:15] 3 [11:15] 5 with work laptops [11:15] can anyone help me out, i have installed slackware with no boot loader and put in the following into my grub menu.lst from another distro, but i get a error 15 file not found http://pastebin.com/m74c21503 [11:16] error 15 means it cant find the kernel [11:17] do you have a separate /boot? [11:17] aye, but i seem to have everything setup correctly, dont understand it [11:17] no one /boot for all [11:17] also, did you use ext4 by chance? [11:17] that may be the problem [11:17] yes i did [11:17] fluke: fail :) [11:17] dive: one server? [11:17] does the grub in that distro support ext4 booting ? [11:17] slackware's grub does not eg [11:17] thrice`: shouldnt matter if /boot is shared [11:17] lol [11:17] ChArLoK_16 (n=chatzill@82.137.203.132) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:17] Nick_Patterson, my desktop machine doubles as a webserver [11:18] it does support ext4 [11:18] for my webdev [11:18] Zordrak, it's not shared, he has slackware's /boot within his ext4 / [11:18] fluke: the shared /boot.. is the slackware kernel on it? what FS is it? is it definitel (hd1,6) ? [11:18] yes it is [11:18] thrice`: oh.. i interpreted as shared boot [11:18] oh, wait, it is a separate /boot . I'm losing it [11:18] dive: 7 times cstring, 1 times memory, and 1 times stdlib.h :P [11:18] i basically done this [11:19] how on earth the stdlib.h got past them in the first place is beyond me.. [11:19] macavity, so it's done now? Or is this just so far? [11:19] i setup like this yes its prolly messy im still learning /boot primary /swap primary /extended then inside that i done / for mint / for sabayon and / for slackware [11:20] dive: now it finished compiling.. lets see if it produced something usable :P [11:20] the main boot loader is mint which is on mbr, and sabayon/mint/ work fine windows also works fine from the grub but thats on another drive [11:20] fluke, which FS is /boot ? [11:21] thrice`: i dont understand sorry [11:21] ChArLoK_16 (n=chatzill@82.137.203.132) joined ##slackware. [11:21] you said /boot has it's own partition, which file system does it have ? [11:21] oh sorry its ext4 as is all others apart from swap ofc [11:22] the 3 distro roots are ext4 along with the boot [11:23] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:23] hey guys, will rules defined for udev (e.g run script after device connect) work with hot-plugging? [11:23] I guess it froze the system up then [11:25] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [11:25] what is the smp in the following line kernel /boot/vmlinuz-huge-smp-2.6.29.6-smp [11:26] i checked inside my boot folder inside slackware and i dont see a file with smp in it [11:26] did you install slackware64 ? [11:26] yes [11:26] that's why [11:26] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:27] ah ok [11:27] it should boot "/boot/vmlinuz-huge-2.6.29.6 [11:27] i did remove the smp from the grub menu aswell still got the error 15 [11:27] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:27] the -smp is for 32-bit installs, which ships both an SMP and non-SMP kernel [11:27] dive: ok.. that most desicively killed my X :-/ [11:27] for 64-bit, all cpu's are SMP, so there isn't a separate kernel [11:27] tough that could very very well be the fault of the intel driver [11:27] ok.. gotta run now.. [11:27] in your slackware boot folder do a ls , make sure the kernel listed there is the same [11:27] macavity, [11:28] did you make a patch for those includes? [11:28] can you do one and pastebin it [11:28] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:28] i can do so pretty quick.. but i have to hurry out the door now.. already late [11:28] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [11:28] i will be back in 4h [11:28] and if/when I ever get back on my big box I will check it out [11:28] k [11:28] ok well later then perhaps [11:29] gone [11:29] bb [11:31] so kernel /boot/vmlinuz-huge-2.6.29.6 root=/dev/sdb7 ro looks correct then for a 64bit? [11:31] i check in the boot folder, the filename match's it [11:31] then that should be good [11:31] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:31] dive: Ok, cool. [11:32] dive , try and reboot see if it comes up [11:33] fluke, yep, try 'er out [11:33] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:34] oops not dive i mean fluke [11:34] o ok will reboot and try it so, brb wish me luck :D [11:34] fluke (n=fluke@86-45-85-201-dynamic.b-ras2.srl.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:35] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [11:35] I just got this for my bash quote "Besides, I think Slackware sounds better than 'Microsoft,' don't you? -- Patrick Volkerding" [11:36] fortune is fun [11:36] lol [11:36] I love that command , have it run everytime i open a terminal [11:36] I have "source /etc/profile" on the top of my bashrc [11:36] also makes colors come out correctly [11:41] Axius (n=ade@92.85.216.74) left irc: "Leaving" [11:41] big_bass (i=0@unaffiliated/bigbass/x-81725) left irc: "Leaving." [11:42] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:54] can help me with this error !!!!!ERROR: opening '/usr/share/cacti/rra/alfa_samba_proc_35.rrd': No such file or directory [11:55] can you explain how to [11:55] the file is not there... what are you doing that makes this error appear? [11:55] the file doesn't exist [11:55] do a ls -al on that dir [11:56] they even [11:57] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.177.208) joined ##slackware. [11:57] The system itself creates? [11:58] HomerMunion (n=hmunion@24.159.166.178) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:58] HomerMunion (n=hmunion@24.159.166.178) joined ##slackware. [11:59] Phoenix_br: you installed cacti (it is not part of Slackware) so you should know why that file is not present [11:59] Desiderius (n=dc@pth77-1-88-171-241-225.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [12:00] hey guys, will rules defined for udev (e.g run script after device connect) work with hot-plugging? [12:02] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [12:02] alienBOB: Excuse me! thanks for attention [12:04] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-63-65.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:05] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [12:06] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.18.144) joined ##slackware. [12:09] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.18.144) left irc: Client Quit [12:10] Not sure what to say about this, but it looks like uhelper=hal doesn't get triggered for usb keys with partitions. [12:10] sorry i can't debug, gotta run [12:11] user51 (i=c747d65e@gateway/web/freenode/x-edkbgnqgnnhbrupx) left irc: [12:13] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:15] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [12:15] has someone installed subtitlecomposer and had a problem with cmake version? [12:17] Huh... windowmaker on Slackware 13 isn't built with xinerama support, apparently. [12:18] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [12:20] hiya fire|bird [12:20] Mkman (n=Tiago@bl9-148-165.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:21] heya hitest, how are you? [12:21] pupiteee (n=p@93.87.129.212) joined ##slackware. [12:21] I am well, fire|bird, ty:) how are you? [12:22] Sorry if this is a stupid question, but where can I find slackbuilds for the software that comes with Slackware? [12:22] mmm... [12:22] hi all [12:22] adamk: any mirror. in source/ [12:22] Thanks. [12:23] hitest: I'm great, thank you. :) [12:23] psyber (n=psyber@pool-71-240-139-131.hrbgpa.btas.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:23] :) [12:23] the dvd has all the sources as well btw [12:23] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:25] with slackware64 multilib am I able to install regular 32bit slackbuilds? [12:25] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [12:25] lol @ http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4854 [12:26] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@74.13.51.221) joined ##slackware. [12:27] Has anyone managed to get rox-filer to work on 64-bit slackware 13? It works find here on a 32-bit machine, but errors on two 64-bit machines: http://pastebin.com/m66a1f22b [12:28] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [12:28] adamk: did you use a slackbuild or build strictly from source manually? [12:28] PuppetMaster (n=Project@unaffiliated/puppetmaster) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:28] Dominian, slackbuild. [12:29] adamk: from slackbuilds.org? [12:29] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/rox-filer/ <-- suggest that it will build. [12:29] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) joined ##slackware. [12:29] BP{k}, It built fine.. It just doesn't run. [12:29] And, yes, that's the slackbuild I used. [12:29] adamk: I'm assuming you changed the ARCH to x86_64 ? [12:29] oh [12:29] Dominian, Yep. [12:29] adamk: what's the error when you run it from command line? [12:29] That pastebin had it. [12:30] oh wait.. its in your psate [12:30] haha [12:30] looks like the slackbuild is fail [12:30] I don't have a slackware64 machine or VM handy at the moment [12:30] so can't test it [12:31] I am building it already. [12:31] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [12:32] uhm wfm. [12:32] Errr. [12:32] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [12:33] So I grabbed the official slackbuild for windowmaker, modified it to use --enable-xineram when configuring, built it, and installed it. [12:33] And I don't actually have a /usr/bin/wmaker binary [12:34] Oh, I think I see what I did. [12:34] http://www.nashvillepost.com/news/2009/11/17/gibson_guitars_raided_by_fbi [12:34] nvision (n=nvision@g229055009.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. 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[12:38] sahk0, ever thought about creating a #test channel, connecting to it with another client, and hilighting yourself? ;-) [12:38] hmm, thanks [12:38] dive: no [12:38] hmm weird [12:39] ChArLoK_16 (n=chatzill@82.137.203.132) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:39] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.226.112.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [12:39] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:40] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [12:40] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:40] Desiderius (n=dc@pth77-1-88-171-241-225.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [12:40] does anyone know of an opposite of aoss [12:40] Desiderius (n=dc@pth77-1-88-171-241-225.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:41] Desiderius (n=dc@pth77-1-88-171-241-225.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:41] oss by 4front technologies? [12:42] stuartpb (n=stuartpb@c-24-16-108-67.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:42] tuxdev__ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:42] how do i set up vsftpd in slackware 13.0? [12:43] bbl, got to push the lawnmower around for a while [12:43] gades_ (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [12:43] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: "Saliendo" [12:43] gades_ (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:43] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [12:44] im getting "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" when i try to make a 32bit slackpkg in slackware64, any ideas why is that? [12:44] fatherx: read the slackbuilds.org faq for x86_64 [12:44] ok, thank you [12:48] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:01] vaibhav (n=landy@122.167.110.251) left irc: "Leaving" [13:04] paissad-hp (n=paissad@89.87.195.22) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:04] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:05] psyber (n=psyber@pool-71-240-139-131.hrbgpa.btas.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:07] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@74.13.51.221) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:07] is creating a udev rule all that is required to run a script upon device connect (say, usb stick) ? or is there something else to do...? not having much luck with udev [13:07] Desiderius (n=dc@pth77-1-88-171-241-225.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:08] rogersman: are you me ? [13:08] Desiderius (n=dc@pth77-1-88-171-241-225.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:08] :P [13:09] eh? [13:09] um...i dont think so [13:09] rogersman: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html [13:10] psyber (n=psyber@pool-71-240-139-131.hrbgpa.btas.verizon.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [13:10] init[1]: okay, reading now....cheers [13:10] tho im still a bit confused over the "are you me?" question ;-) [13:11] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-135-83.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [13:11] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [13:11] rogersman: 19:19 < init[1]> i need your suggestions,well,this is for a birthday surprise for my friend,i'm gonna gift him a pendrive,i would like to execute a script in pendrive,which ofcourse would be hidden,and run the script when he pulgs in (autrun type),which would be good way to do it,adding a cron entry to run the script or udev(i have physical acess to his system (even root)) ? [13:12] ;) [13:13] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.94.159) joined ##slackware. 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[13:26] john_dee (n=id@95-29-9-214.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:27] i got one...lmms fails with -- Installing: /tmp/sbopkg/sbopkg-build-directory/package-lmms/usr/lib64/lmms/libvstbase.so [13:28] CMake Error at plugins/vst_base/cmake_install.cmake:50 (FILE): file INSTALL cannot find file "/tmp/sbopkg/sbopkg-build-directory/lmms-0.4.2/build/plugins/vst_base/remote_vst_plugin" to install. [13:28] Call Stack (most recent call first): plugins/cmake_install.cmake:58 (INCLUDE) cmake_install.cmake:239 (INCLUDE) [13:28] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [13:35] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@74.13.51.221) joined ##slackware. [13:35] rogersman: KERNEL=="sdb", RUN+="/usr/bin/my_program" [13:36] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [13:37] init[1]: yip, thats wot I already put :-/ [13:37] rogersman: are you running any thing related to X? [13:37] prashant__ (n=prashant@122.172.59.82) joined ##slackware. [13:38] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.108.146) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:38] init[1]: wot do u mean? the program to run? [13:38] why KERNEL? [13:38] did you try simple 'touch ~/devicefoud' [13:38] thrice`: its an example [13:38] nyRednek: youh ave installed all dependencies? [13:39] BP{k}: yeah [13:39] BP{k}: afaik [13:39] prashant__ (n=prashant@122.172.59.82) left irc: Client Quit [13:39] Guest16054 (n=kvirc@pool-96-246-0-137.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:39] rogersman: if you plan to run any thing that depends on X [13:39] do set the DISPLAY evn var,in your script [13:39] something like: "SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{serial}=="XXXXXXXXXX", "RUN+="/path/to/script.sh" looks good [13:40] thrice`: ;) [13:40] yea [13:40] Guest16054 (n=kvirc@pool-96-246-0-137.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Time makes no sense"). [13:40] BP{k}: i think it might be the fact that wine is installed on slack64 [13:41] thrice`: presumably tho, i will still work with even the most vague of rules, i.e what init[1] wrote above as an example is at least technically correct [13:42] nyRednek: why would that make a difference? [13:43] ok, you must know more than I [13:43] this is what ive put, KERNEL=="sdb*", RUN+="/etc/udev/rules.d/test.sh" ... but never bloody runs the script! [13:44] i meant above as a question rather than a statement ;-) [13:44] did you update your rules ? [13:44] or, tell udev about your updated rules [13:45] thrice`: i assume a reboot will perform the same action? or does one *need* to run the export rules command? [13:45] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:45] this is my first time farting around with udev rules (yeah, big shock there) [13:45] /etc/rc.d/rc.udev restart [13:46] yip, thats what i did....ho-hum [13:46] nyRednek: well as far as I can tell: libsndfile, libsamplerate, fftw, ladspa_sdk, jack-audio-connection-kit, fluidsynth are the dependencies that are needed to be build, anyway, I am out for a bit . I would usually suggest to build stuff in a nice clean chroot, if you have a problem still later, let me know, I'll give it a testrun [13:47] all of those are there [13:49] rogersman: can you pastebin your script? [13:49] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:49] Lord_Khelben (n=null@79.103.236.90.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:50] its just appending the word "test" to a text file.....just a sanity checking script... echo test >> test.txt [13:50] zerafuze (n=zerafuze@74.13.51.221) left irc: [13:50] BP{k}: trying to build again...after removing wine [13:51] mag0o: 60-myrules.rules is the name of rules file [13:51] does it have the proper shebang and such as referenced here? http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#external-run [13:53] mag0o: that is a negative....looks like that could be the sticking point eh? [13:54] yep [13:54] worth a shot [13:56] Mkman (n=Tiago@85.242.148.165) joined ##slackware. [13:56] What is the advantages of using Slackware [13:56] o_O [13:56] huzzah! clouds part, angels sing and a happy slacker is reborn.... thanks mag0o [13:56] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:57] Mkman: you can ask that question for everything [13:57] all that trouble caused by one line, reminds of programming :-p [13:57] yw rogersman [13:57] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:57] Lord_Khelben, lol but in your opinion [13:57] knowledge gained [13:58] just that? [13:58] yep [13:58] slackware is a fast,stable distribution that lets you work without getting in your way [13:58] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.94.159) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:58] there is no single answer for your question. try slackware and see if you like it [13:58] if ( knowledge_gained < time_spent ) goto whisky() [13:59] pupiteee (n=p@79.101.70.164) joined ##slackware. [13:59] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.94.118) joined ##slackware. [14:00] Mkman: its all about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius#Slack [14:00] Slackware dont have a package manager right? i need compile everything? [14:00] it has a package manager [14:00] it does have a package manager [14:00] Mkman: yes it has [14:00] called pkgtool [14:00] Mkman: slackware has a package manager. [14:00] Action: rogersman dives for cover [14:00] but it doesn't resolve dependencies automagically [14:01] for apps not included in slackware you can use slackbuilds. you still have to compile them but you don't need to mess with details [14:01] BP{k}: without wine, it works great [14:01] Mkman (n=Tiago@85.242.148.165) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:02] Mkman (n=Tiago@85.242.148.165) joined ##slackware. [14:02] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-jfguopozatzkfpoj) joined ##slackware. [14:02] Nick_Patterson_ (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-lytkqarjajktybmi) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [14:03] Mkman: have you used any other linux distribution ? [14:03] Arch Linu [14:03] Linux [14:04] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [14:04] Slackware has many similarities with Arch linux so you can learn it easily if you want to try [14:04] at least thats what i read. i don't know about arch linux [14:05] mupi__ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:06] przemoc86 (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:07] Arch has a package manager Slackware dont have this is for me a barrier [14:08] as many people here said some minutes ago, slackware has a package manager [14:08] it justs doesn't resolve dependencies [14:08] s/justs/just/ [14:08] Slackware has, and has always had, a package manager. [14:08] yes i know [14:09] pirving (n=pirving@67.244.247.75) joined ##slackware. [14:09] if you want to complain about a system without a package manager, let's talk about LFS [14:09] but doesnt resolve dependencies :( [14:09] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:09] AFAIK, Slackware was in fact the first distribution that allowed one to remove packages without removing files contained in other packages, and to upgrade packages with newer versions, long before anyone else did. [14:09] if this is a barrier for you, then i don't think you'll like slackware. but try it nevertheless [14:09] guaxinim (n=guaxinim@189.4.109.74) joined ##slackware. [14:09] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:09] Those are really the only true purposes of a package manager anyhow, IMNSHO. [14:10] the phrase "package manager" means a program tha manages (install,remove,upgrade) packages [14:10] Further, Slackware has virtually the only "Do what I say, not what you think is best" package management system. [14:10] the automatic dependency is useful but is an extra feature [14:10] it means different things to different people [14:10] ok boys, using ANY computer I timeout on dns resolution when surfing the web. Hit refresh 3 sec later it works. Intermittent error. Roadrunner problem or router problem??? [14:10] for some, a package manager requires a workable database [14:10] nyRednek: that's why having a chroot, or a vm or a dedicated dev machine is a bonus in building :) [14:11] pirving: Try using openDNS instead of the servers provided by roadrunner [14:11] tried it [14:11] same problem [14:11] and the answer is, no, a lot of linux users do not consider slackware to have a complete package manager. deal. [14:11] Mkman (n=Tiago@85.242.148.165) left irc: "Saindo" [14:11] hey, does anyone have expirience with updating 12.1 to 12.2 for example, by using slackpkg... ? [14:11] should I increase window size for dns resolution? [14:11] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [14:11] or retries? [14:11] firefox? [14:12] mario: follow upgrade.txt and you can use slackpkg to do the install part if you want, but its just as easy manually [14:12] I should watch my cable modem lights [14:12] all day [14:12] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [14:12] happens about 20 times a day [14:12] mario: i just did a 12.1 to 13.0 the other day [14:12] I should run a recursive ping [14:12] relatively smooth [14:12] mario: its easier without slackpkg in fact [14:13] anyway not a Slack issue, so [14:13] sorry folks, just wanted some Network Admin knowledge [14:13] is slackbuilds.org endorsed? [14:14] SBo is at least endorsed by this channel :D [14:14] Whats the connection of Linus to Slackware?? did he work on slack at one time? [14:14] annointed? [14:14] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [14:14] no [14:14] than why am I reading about it [14:14] pirving: Linus works on every distribution simultaneously. he provides this thing called a "kernel" [14:14] pirving: slackbuilds.org is endorsed by the Hicks Institute for Accountable Packaging. [14:14] last I heard Linus is a SuSE user [14:14] slackware is the oldest distro [14:15] pirving: Incorrect. Slackware is the oldest _surviving_ distro. [14:15] mag0o: well im considering 12.1 to 13.0 but i was thinking to ask first, since its a running server, i dont really want to b0rk it up :P [14:15] SLS is older [14:15] I know someone who runs it [14:15] still [14:15] mine was on a desktop that i didn't care if it went tits up [14:15] pirving: slackbuilds.org is supported by the NY Rednek and impish entertainment\ [14:15] s/supported/endorsed [14:16] something along the lines of edit my mirrors, slackpkg update; slackpkg install-new; slackpkg upgrade; reboot [14:16] Support for slackbuilds.org is provided by... HHMI... Google... and viewers like you. [14:16] lol [14:16] i needed an additional slackpkg install-new after the reboot due to some missing kde stuff [14:16] not sure what that was about [14:17] Anyhow, I gotta run. Work to do. Later guys. [14:17] don't quote me on that though, i didn't keep notes since i didn't care if it died [14:17] later Alan_Hicks [14:18] later Alan_Hicks [14:18] mag0o no worries, i will probably just do a fresh install instead :) [14:18] Slackware beats debian in age by one month [14:19] and beats debian in awesome by one metric awetonne. [14:19] ok, I sparked a war [14:19] nevermind [14:19] who cares [14:20] how do I increase dns res. time in firefox? about:config? [14:20] ,/join #firefox [14:20] ? [14:20] mario: It could be to your benefit to do 12.1 -> 12.2 -> 13.0 [14:20] pirving, this isn't a way, it's patting each other on the back [14:20] s/way/war [14:20] mario: Fresh install if you want slackware64 though.. not sure if you swing that way [14:20] slackers [14:20] all of you [14:20] me too [14:21] Action: pirving is a slacker because he's using a win client right now with java.freenode [14:21] eviljames, yeah, i was also thinking 12.1 -> 12.2 -> 13.0, 64 bit is just an option though, i need to check if that server even supports it :p [14:21] Action: pirving uptime [14:21] mario: cat /proc/cpuinfo [14:21] doesn't FF not really control that? [14:21] model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz [14:21] ping fails too, right? [14:21] ghetto :p [14:22] mario: almost guaranteed not :P cpuflags will have the info [14:22] flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc up pebs bts sync_rdtsc pni monitor ds_cpl cid xtpr [14:22] wow [14:22] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:22] i think it doesn't support 64bit [14:22] nope [14:22] doesnt really matter, i think it doesnt [14:22] it should have lm if it did [14:23] P4 definitely doesn't [14:23] p4 socket 478 no [14:23] p4 lga775 had 64bit variants [14:23] yeah, i might just end up buying new server :p [14:23] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [14:23] me too [14:23] Lord_Khelben: P4 LGA775? The half-step between buying a P4 and a C2D? [14:24] i had a 530 (intel p4 3.0ghz) which was 32bit and a 531 i think or something which supported 64bit [14:24] eviljames: there were many p4 lga775 [14:24] and also dualcore pentium before c2d [14:25] slower than c2d ofcourse [14:25] pirving (n=pirving@67.244.247.75) left irc: "Java user signed off" [14:27] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:27] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:30] stuartpb (n=stuartpb@c-24-16-108-67.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:31] guaxinim (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:32] Heya; does wicd have any support for 802.1X on wired connections hidden anywhere? [14:32] it should work [14:33] Action: fred is fine with configuring wpa_supplicant/Xsupplicant manually, but needs to make instructions for others that hopefully don't involve using the terminal or switching to nm [14:33] NaCl: I don't see the option [14:33] I see it for wireless [14:33] wired [14:33] oh [14:33] my bad [14:33] fred: the answer is no [14:33] It will be supported in future versions. [14:34] I take it .1Q isn't on the list? :p [14:34] Action: fred assumes that's way to rare a requirement [14:35] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [14:35] Didn't know that 801.1Q existed [14:35] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:36] Xpistos|work1 (n=cekimogl@nsc69.38.8-118.newsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:36] fred: that is supported by wpa_supplicant? [14:36] Hey can a newb like me get help in here or should I go to another chat room? [14:37] Is it about Slackware? [14:37] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:37] Phoenix_br (n=chatzill@189-19-71-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]" [14:37] Xpistos|work1: what is your issuse ? what helpd do you want? [14:37] fred: just read up on it, answer to my question was no... [14:37] does it do isl? (just curious) [14:38] Action: init[1] lost with ardour [14:38] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-63-65.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:39] fred: what would be needed to support it? [14:41] Or are you being facetious? [14:41] how do I install new software say gpoder [14:42] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/gpodder/ and http://www.slackbuilds.org/howto/ [14:43] also, http://slackbuilds.org/faq/ [14:43] Xpistos|work1: ^^^^ [14:43] fire|bird: Thanks and gnome? same place? I am use to useing debian so this slackware stuff is new to me [14:44] gnome is it's own animal [14:44] I prefer gnome to kde [14:45] slackware doesn't include gnome, there are some projects that provide gnome for slackware, I'd personally look at gsb or gware, however gsb is more updated atm. [14:45] Actually that is not true, I perfer Openbox to gnome. I hate kde [14:45] Xpistos|work1: xfce? [14:45] nah [14:45] Xpistos|work1: openbox is available from www.slackbuilds.org as well. [14:45] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:45] xfce++ if you aren't drinking the kde kool-aid. [14:45] fire|bird: Awesome [14:45] NaCl: it's configured via vconfig; I wasn't being facetious, thoguh I can't imagine enoguh people would find it useful to be worth implementing [14:45] I, however, am very much drunk on KDE's awesomeness. [14:46] eviljames: ze kool-aid, it is good, yes? :P [14:46] fred: I see. [14:46] lol [14:46] hi Scuzz [14:46] howdy fire|bird [14:46] i read that with an accent also [14:46] fred: It's going to be very plugin-ish, so if someone wants to implement it, he can and post it somewhere. :) [14:46] NaCl: I move around networks a lot, and also end up doing the vlan config on a few , so :p [14:46] Scuzz: haha [14:46] plugins are good :) [14:46] Xpistos|work1: awesome too is available ;) [14:47] Scuzz: to be honest, I typed it with an accent in mind. :P [14:47] yeah i figured as much [14:47] french correct ? [14:47] init[1]: awesome, bleh, ion3 is good though. :P [14:47] Scuzz: you are correct. :) [14:47] ha ha ha [14:47] fred: gotcha [14:47] Scuzz: interesting how that comes across on irc sometimes. :P [14:47] fire|bird: i like sugar,you like sugar free,thats the diff ;P [14:47] yeah [14:47] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [14:48] mine \ NoPE [14:48] init[1]: Ah, you like sugar, no wonder you're bouncing off the channel's walls. [14:48] huh!:P [14:48] lol [14:49] fred: development on 2.0 is... suspended at the moment [14:50] NaCl: suspended? Lack of time? [14:50] yeah. [14:50] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:50] We're busy atm. [14:51] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:51] GammalSokk (n=johskar@137.84-48-41.nextgentel.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:52] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-jfguopozatzkfpoj) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [14:54] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c62915@gateway/web/freenode/x-kbqjksaxrypzxplz) joined ##slackware. [14:54] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:57] init[1]: Xpistos|work1: awesome too is available - Huh? [14:57] Xpistos|work1: awesome is a window manager, a tiling window manager. [14:57] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:00] fire|bird: Oh [15:00] fire|bird: I will check that out [15:00] init[1]: Thanks for the heads up [15:01] Xpistos|work1: my pleasure :P [15:01] Lord_Khelben (n=null@79.103.236.90.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [15:04] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [15:07] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.226.112.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:11] impulse_ (n=impy@88.147.64.235) joined ##slackware. [15:12] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [15:14] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c62915@gateway/web/freenode/x-kbqjksaxrypzxplz) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [15:14] LitesterB (n=Litester@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [15:15] GammalSokk (n=johskar@137.84-48-41.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [15:19] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:39) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:20] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.173.212) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [15:20] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c62915@gateway/web/freenode/x-eedlakvvsgrjumws) joined ##slackware. [15:20] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) joined ##slackware. [15:20] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:20] whoa, very cool --> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/11/18/1816247/Samsung-Sponsors-the-Development-of-Enlightenment [15:21] y0 agentc0re|work, how goes? [15:21] haven't seen you for a bit, you been under a rock somewhere? [15:21] fire|bird: im doing great! just got back from a 5 day vacation in cancun yesterday. it was a blast. [15:21] Yup, a nice sunny, beach filled rock. :D [15:22] Action: tuxdev_ drools [15:22] Action: agentc0re|work hands tuxdev_ a napkin [15:22] agentc0re|work: awesome [15:22] fire|bird: very much so. Yourself? [15:22] agentc0re|work: great, thanks. [15:23] fatherx (i=1000@abraham.sh.cvut.cz) left irc: "Leaving" [15:23] good. did i miss anything too exciting? [15:23] agentc0re|work: nah, not really. [15:23] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:24] agentc0re|work: same old, same old pretty much. :P [15:25] wrw (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) joined ##slackware. [15:26] so while in cancun i took one of the tours to a mayan site (chichen itza) and the tour guide kept boasting about 2012... doomsday... I really wanted to tell him about the slashdot article that was posted a couple weeks ago that had a recalculation of 2220. but i decided not to, hopefully darwinism kicks in just before that date. :D [15:26] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.134.87) joined ##slackware. [15:26] I still like to think that the end is 2038 [15:27] agentc0re|work: I had just seen a tv show about 2012 the other day and one of the sites they visited was in Mexico, not sure if it was Cancun though. [15:27] yr 2345 would be a cool one. [15:27] fire|bird: well it's not in cancun, that's just were we stayed. the Chichen Itza site is pretty close to cancun though. [15:28] agentc0re|work: cool. What was that tour like then? Have fun? [15:28] i'd like an order of Chicken Itza with fried :) [15:28] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-77-181.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:28] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) joined ##slackware. [15:28] http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/11/17/1729247/NASA-Attempts-To-Assuage-2012-Fears [15:28] *fries [15:28] Hello [15:28] =) [15:28] Chicken Pizza! [15:28] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c62915@gateway/web/freenode/x-eedlakvvsgrjumws) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [15:29] deco, hello, i am sous Slackware current :p [15:29] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.72.253) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:29] Very great <3 [15:29] fire|bird: the tour was awesome... i'll shoot ya pm because it's way OT. [15:29] celio (n=quassel@189.27.105.151.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:29] Hi fire|bird =) [15:29] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.72.253) joined ##slackware. [15:29] hi fredoslack [15:30] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:31] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c62915@gateway/web/freenode/x-bbkfsepzkynpanvr) joined ##slackware. [15:32] how to see what's my video card and how mb is it ? [15:32] lspci [15:32] fredoslack: yay :P [15:32] celio (n=quassel@189.27.105.151.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:33] =) [15:33] celio (n=quassel@189.27.105.151.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:33] deco, everything works nice, [15:33] fredoslack: yeah it does [15:33] i have installed the QtCurve theme [15:33] for gtk' applications [15:34] cool [15:34] (xchat and firefox, notamment) [15:34] i love KDE 4.3.3 <3 [15:34] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) left irc: "lalala estou indo" [15:36] what is the slackbuild for firefox? [15:36] any other mirror for this http://mirror.vocabbuilder.net/savannah/fluid/fluidsynth-1.0.9.tar.gz [15:36] cause I fi have to keep using konqueror I am going to scream [15:36] Xpistos|work1: you want to install firefox ? just slackpkg install firefox [15:37] Xpistos|work1, a slackbuild for Firefox ? Why [15:37] ? [15:37] There is a txz [15:37] Xpistos|work1: slackware includes firefox. [15:37] no need to install it, it's already there. [15:37] Xpistos|work1: or get the package from the repo manually [15:37] Xpistos|work1: but try slackpkg first [15:37] Xpistos|work1: but if you installed the whole dvd , it's there already [15:37] slackpkag install-new too [15:37] hé hé [15:38] mcnalu (n=fircuser@cpc2-broo3-0-0-cust996.renf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [15:38] the magic command [15:38] =) [15:38] Oh thank you god [15:38] Xpistos|work1: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/source/xap/mozilla-firefox/ i you want it sooo badly [15:38] and you too fire|bird [15:38] s/i/if/ [15:38] i am god!!! [15:39] \o/ [15:39] lol [15:39] | [15:39] nyRednek: where did you install fluidsynth? [15:39] from^ [15:39] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: "That's my story, and I'm sticking to it." 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[15:43] neonflux: i think slackbuilds link too is broken [15:43] fluidsynth need updation [15:43] or a newer version http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases-noredirect/fluid/fluidsynth-1.1.0.tar.gz [15:44] it think sbopkg will not proceed unless it gets a valid url, [15:44] yeah, looks broken [15:44] wrw_ (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) joined ##slackware. [15:45] is there a way to give source url manualy ? [15:46] this is the link that is on SBo and works for me... http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/fluid/fluidsynth-1.0.9.tar.gz [15:46] whats fluidsynth? [15:46] google? [15:47] neonflux: i mean sbopkg [15:47] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [15:47] bah, my wifi card disappeared from my computer! from both windows and linux! [15:47] Location: http://mirror.vocabbuilder.net/savannah/fluid/fluidsynth-1.0.9.tar.gz [following] [15:48] neonflux: can you try fluidsynth in sbopkg? [15:48] Camarade_Tux: card or port died maybe? [15:49] Strike (n=Strike@79.107.184.236) joined ##slackware. [15:49] init[1]: works with sbopkg on my system [15:49] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [15:49] neonflux: should i do a sync ? [15:49] i dought it [15:49] couldn't hurt [15:49] neon, what's that for? [15:50] agentc0re|work: it "went to deep sleep" [15:50] mancha: what? [15:50] Camarade_Tux: wake it up with a "large hammer" [15:50] fluidsynth [15:50] I got that from dmesg, then rebooted and now, no mor ecard ="' [15:51] mancha: its dependency for lmms,linux mutlimedia studio, [15:51] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-77-181.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [15:51] mancha: it's an audio real-time software synthesizer. [15:52] like to make techno-pop? [15:52] mancha: not sure but from SBo...FluidSynth reads and handles MIDI events from the MIDI input device. [15:52] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:52] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c62918@gateway/web/freenode/x-zmqqxtlyzvfrmyxp) joined ##slackware. [15:52] mancha: that and other effects, yeah. [15:52] cool. what neat frontends are there, like to make a techno song [15:54] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-77-181.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:54] technically songs reffers to music tracks accompanied by lyrics. techno doesnt have lyrics. at least the decent kind. also IMO producing music on computers by definition produces soulless crap. with very rare exceptions [15:55] hmmm, what the hell? i thought thunderbird supported vcards >.> [15:55] wrw (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:56] Necos: It does, iirc. [15:56] Necos: use zindus plugin [15:57] how do I update slackware? [15:57] apt-get update, zypper update, yum update ? [15:57] nope, those are for other distros Xpistos|work1 [15:57] Xpistos|work1: slackpkg update and slackpkg upgrade-all [15:57] slackpkg update;slackpkg upgrade-all ? [15:58] Xpistos|work1: a good starting spot to learn is www.slackbook.org [15:58] fire|bird: too late :P [15:58] thank you sirs [15:58] thanks fire|bird [15:58] you're welcome [15:58] I will read over that tonight [15:58] mupi_ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [15:58] init, zindus syncs it with an online db? [15:58] Nick change: andreas-- -> V_tec [15:58] Necos: yes [15:59] Necos: that too regularly :P [15:59] i just wanted to import a vcard into my TB addressbook :P [15:59] nvm, [15:59] ;) [15:59] lol [15:59] lol [15:59] yea lol [15:59] :P [16:01] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] webus (n=webus@92.101.120.168) joined ##slackware. [16:02] hi to all [16:03] guys in a couple of hours i will start my first slackware installation [16:03] \o/ [16:03] slava_dp (n=slava@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] i hope that i will not have any problems! [16:04] i have problem with my network card [16:04] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [16:04] and lilo [16:04] Strike: then don't use slackware [16:04] :),we use it to solve problems [16:04] lilo try to setup on cdrom ) [16:04] lilo has nothing to do with your network card webus :P [16:04] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:04] For nostalgic reasons I would like to connect my Atari Falcon to my Slackware server over a serial line with TCP/IP. Does anyone know how to setup slackware as a slip / ppp server? [16:04] no i want! i want to learn slackware...i do my best [16:04] take your time, be very careful with keyboard presses [16:04] Strike, if you have any you can come here...lot's of helpful people (ignore the assholes) [16:04] wrw_ (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:05] yea infact mancha is one among them :P [16:05] thanks mancha. [16:05] Zero_ultimatum (n=zerotime@218.248.65.157) joined ##slackware. [16:05] Alan_Hicks: ping [16:05] i love this community. there are a lot of interesting things that iam learning [16:05] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-164-186.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:05] Strike: welcome to ##slackware [16:06] and have fun, that's the most important part [16:06] Necos: Thunderbird supports vCards, which are digital equivalents of business cards. <----http://www.freeemailtutorials.com/mozillaThunderbird/vCardsInThunderbird.cwd [16:06] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c62918@gateway/web/freenode/x-zmqqxtlyzvfrmyxp) left irc: "Page closed" [16:07] Strike (n=Strike@79.107.184.236) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:08] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:08] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.94.118) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:09] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [16:10] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-77-181.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:13] wrw (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) joined ##slackware. [16:14] gar0t0: pong [16:15] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Connection timed out [16:16] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [16:16] hi, is there any photo booth software for kde like cheese for gnome? my google search are proving to be futile [16:17] merciful: Start with /usr/doc/Linux-HOWTOs/PLIP* [16:20] fire|bird, https://nic-nac-project.de/~kaosmos/morecols-en.html <--- solved my problem in 35 seconds :) [16:20] Necos: nice. glad it's working. :) [16:20] blkdg: can't vouch for it myself,but might be good http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/News/Kamoso-1.0-Webcam-Tool-for-KDE-4 [16:20] you can't actually import natively in TB [16:22] tsonev_ (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [16:22] thanks Rat409 , reading now. [16:22] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [16:22] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:22] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:22] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-77-181.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:23] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [16:23] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [16:23] i went to kde-apps.org and pic, photobooth and cheese don't return any reslutst ? weird [16:23] sure,grabbed it myself,think default app may be webkam. [16:23] results. [16:23] uva (i=bno@114-45-227-25.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:24] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [16:24] there's no webkam with slackware 13.0 [16:24] y0 Rat409, how's it going? [16:24] patrick, i love you <3 [16:25] Alan_Hicks: pvt ? [16:25] gar0t0: sure [16:25] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.134.87) left irc: "Leaving." [16:25] fire|bird: good,thanks. yourself? [16:25] Rat409: doing great, thanks. :) [16:26] wrw_ (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) joined ##slackware. [16:26] Nick change: init[1] -> init[0] [16:27] off topic, anyone notice that sometimes kde4 will loose it's ability to keep the current theme when you use ALT - F2 to open a run launcher? [16:28] ganeshix (n=chatzill@rrcs-24-103-182-50.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:28] yz250 (n=akis@62.1.107.176.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:28] i've noticed that after i play ut, and return back to my work, plasma (if that's the name for it) doesn't handle alt f2 at all. i get a gray box... weird.. [16:28] ok,is there a way to open firefox in fullscreen (not F11) , [16:28] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:28] Alan_Hicks, Thanks! [16:29] pupiteee (n=p@79.101.70.164) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:29] merciful: NP. I don't know if that's what you need, but it may help. grep for SLIP in that directory. [16:29] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@114-45-234-101.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:30] init[0]: http://www.mouserunner.com/FF_Tips_Full_Screen.html ? [16:30] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-165-75.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:31] Awesome, i did it. My first slackbuild [16:31] Although it is kind of an old package [16:31] pupiteee (n=p@109.93.15.223) joined ##slackware. [16:31] horray !! [16:31] gpodder is up to 2.0 now and this one is 0.15 [16:32] scratch that, I go it installed but it won't run [16:33] mag0o: i wish there was --fullscreen switch for firefox [16:33] I see gpodder listed in the taskbar, but it stays there a few minutes and then disappears without launching [16:34] Xpistos|work1: from a terminal, run gpodder and see if it shows any errors. [16:35] init[0]: this one seems to add that http://www.krickelkrackel.de/autohide/autohidehelp.htm [16:35] i downloaded kamoso, and unpacked it. when i try ./configure or make from inside the parent dir or the src dir in the parent dir, nothing happends. there is no readme or installation instructions. how do i compile this? [16:36] I was reading the readme and the term and read me say I need to install other modules. Feedparser and helpman 2 [16:36] blkdg: being a kde app, it probably uses cmake [16:36] yes i am looking at cmakelists.txt i have never done this. [16:37] make a subdir called build [16:37] then run cmake .. from inside [16:37] mupi_ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:37] add options to taste [16:37] ccmake . [16:37] blkdg: You could look at slackware's slackbuilds for kde things, such as kaudiocreator to get an example. [16:38] Nick change: V_tec -> andreas-- [16:39] wrw (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:39] init[0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/tag/full%20screen [16:40] mag0o: Rat409 ty ;) [16:40] well i was wondering if i could do it without a plugin [16:40] theres another i saw for full-screen flash games etc [16:40] any no other option i guess , [16:40] /s/any/any way/ [16:41] wow I am really spoiled. It don't take this long to install software in debian based distros, but I want to learn [16:41] other than F11,i don't know of one [16:41] what is a girl to do [16:41] Pig_Pen, not doing out-of-tree builds is a really bad idea [16:41] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [16:42] Is it time for my shameless plug of src2pkg again? [16:42] mupi_ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [16:43] Xpistos|work1, what do you mean? slackpkg is pretty fast if you select a fast mirror [16:44] is there any way to fake key press signal to an application,like for firefox 'f11' without user pressing it? [16:44] thanks fire|bird , tuxdev_ , Pig_Pen and Rat409 . i'll try [16:44] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [16:44] good luck ;-) [16:46] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:46] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:48] there's no kaudiocreator in slackbuilds.org under all or 13.0 [16:48] blkdg: it's part of slackware, check the mirrors. ;) [16:48] Action: init[0] cya bed time [16:48] /http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/source/kde/kaudiocreator/ [16:48] kaffeine's in SBo [16:49] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [16:49] see ya init[0] [16:49] and uses CMake [16:49] cy fire|bird [16:49] i understand now, i misread and thought it was at slackbuilds [16:50] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [16:50] thanks again folks [16:50] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:50] ganeshix (n=chatzill@rrcs-24-103-182-50.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [16:51] urbank (n=urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [16:53] tvn2009 (i=406a15b3@gateway/web/freenode/x-zklnebsoqlpgridv) joined ##slackware. [16:54] hi, when I try to ssh to another computer in the same lan (192.168.1.x) from my slack box, it takes quite a white - 5-6 seconds. Not sure if I have misconfigured some network setups ? [16:54] is this the first time or all the time? [16:54] all the time [16:55] and what's the normal ping? [16:55] doesn't matter if I use the hostname or direct ip [16:55] PING 192.168.1.85 (192.168.1.85) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.1.85: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=12.1 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.85: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.708 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.85: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.662 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.85: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.659 ms [16:55] seems normal [16:55] the initial SSH handshake *can* be pretty slow [16:55] it's all the time -- [16:56] so it's still laggy when you're in the session [16:56] no once I sshed in the other computer then I can work normally -- doesn't seem lagging [16:57] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:57] other computers (running various distri Deb/Fedora) ssh to the slackbox very fast . So I think I've misconfigured something on my slackbox [16:57] tvn2009: that happens to me as well [16:58] urban3 (n=urban@c-94-255-165-174.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:58] init[0]: found this http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/Key-Scripter-36181.shtml [16:58] zerosoul13: yeh I find it a bit annoying [16:58] tvn2009: rDNS [16:58] theres another one iirc anymouse or something similar [16:59] Usually extremely slow SSH handshakes are caused by DNS failure. [17:00] apparently it's still slow by IP, though [17:00] tvn2009: bac in the day when i worked a cari.net we did go into the ssh_config file and changed 1 parameter which had to do with rDNS [17:00] Alan_Hicks: do you have suggestions on where I can look ? my /etc/resolv.conf is the same as other machines [17:00] glphvgacs (n=paymon@dyn-231-140.wireless.concordia.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:00] tuxdev_: Because the server you're connecting to has DNS problems. [17:00] Zero_ultimatum (n=zerotime@218.248.65.157) left irc: "Leaving." [17:00] is there a netinstall version of slackware? [17:01] slack can install from an NFS share.. and lots of other places [17:01] glphvgacs: alienbob's wiki iirc [17:01] glphvgacs: You can install from an FTP, HTTP, NFS server. [17:02] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left ##slackware. [17:02] Alan_Hicks, how does DNS issues affect IP lookups again? [17:02] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425453.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:02] shouldn't be touching DNS stuff really [17:03] tuxdev_: http://tinyurl.com/n64wbx [17:04] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-244.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:04] hi. when i mark text in the terminal it is copied, and i can paste it with the middle mouse button. only trouble is, i have a two-button mouse and it is a bit tricky to press the middle one having to press both at the same time. is there another shortcut for pasting? not shift-insert... [17:04] mupi__ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [17:04] really, really shouldn't be touching DNS, even rDNS [17:05] Alan_Hicks: that's harsh ^^ ...ill definitely have to use that one ;-) [17:05] rogersman: :^) [17:06] tuxdev_: Do you even know how SSH works or what it does? [17:06] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [17:06] yes [17:06] hi, does slackware 13.0 come with kde development packages? [17:07] Action: glphvgacs liked alienbob's wiki explanation of PXE [17:07] and rDNS isn't an inherent part of the process [17:07] tuxdev_: Then you would know that the server does an rDNS lookup whenever a client attempts to log on. [17:07] thnx [17:07] tuxdev_: Yes it is. [17:07] tuxdev_: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ssh+DNS [17:08] uh, but it *isn't an inherent part of the process* [17:08] since you're talking about it, is there a command that would give me dhcp server's avail. on my network? [17:08] or there'd be no "UseDNS no" setting [17:09] glphvgacs, it should be part of the kde packages [17:09] since slack doesn't do the who -devel splitting thing [17:09] i tried this cmake -Wno-dev ../src/ from the build dir. the error i get is CMake Error at plugins/facebook/icons/CMakeLists.txt:1 (KDE4_INSTALL_ICONS): Unknown CMake command "KDE4_INSTALL_ICONS". when i asked in another # i was told that i didn't have kde development packages. does that sound right? [17:09] blkdg: yes sir..kdevelop installed by default in full [17:09] tuxdev_: I suppose the encryption algorithms aren't "an inherent part of the process" either? [17:10] ok, thanks rogersman [17:11] wrw (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) joined ##slackware. [17:11] it is for an encrypted session [17:11] but otherwise no [17:11] It appears I've made the mistake of arguing with a fool. [17:11] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [17:11] e01 (n=OSCorp01@office.izrod.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:11] see you [17:12] gn all !! [17:13] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Client Quit [17:13] excuse me, rogersman , what is the name of the dir that they'd be in? [17:13] estud04 (n=estud04@201.232.54.132) joined ##slackware. [17:14] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui" [17:14] I just have setup a point to point vpn between my home pc and the machine from where I'm irc'ing now, I would like to run remote X appz anyone knows how? [17:14] blkdg: its appears from your brief error message more than likely related to the source code itself rather than some inherent flaw or lack of libraries in cmake....i would try download source from another location first [17:15] glphvgacs (n=paymon@dyn-231-140.wireless.concordia.ca) left ##slackware. [17:15] whatever you say.. Alan_Hicks [17:15] Alan_Hicks: "Wise men never argue with fools, because people from a distance can't tell who is who" [17:16] ;-) [17:16] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-77-181.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [17:17] godnix is a sadist who really enjoys watching how unix geeks get converted their shell servers to ubuntu server [17:17] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30C59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [17:18] estud04, use X forwarding [17:18] ssh -X [17:18] estud04: ssh -X [17:18] lol [17:18] I have never tried running an X client remotely [17:18] or whatever it is [17:18] estud04: ? [17:19] Kamel (n=1@99-205-207-4.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: [17:19] estud04: you will get a lot more info from google on such a broad topic mate..."ssh x forwarding " etc will provide all u need to know [17:19] rogersman, can you tell me where the kde devel dir would be? [17:20] webus (n=webus@92.101.120.168) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:20] why ssh? [17:20] I have using a secure openvpn tunnel [17:20] now [17:20] I am * [17:20] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: "ha oui, je me casse regarder un film" [17:20] /usr/doc/kdelibs-4.2.4 is the only thing i found with locate\ [17:20] blkdg: im not entirely sure what ur looking for [17:20] mupi_ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:20] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:21] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.67.186) joined ##slackware. [17:21] you can use XDMCP and create a complete X session on the remote machine as well.. but that's overkill [17:21] /rogersman eyes the large X at the top right of his IRC client... [17:21] i was asked to check if i had kdelibs. so i used locate to find where kde libs were and that doc dir and a log dir were the things returned [17:22] the problem is that I have disabled X11 port listening in the remote machine [17:22] somewhere I cant remember how [17:22] tvn2009 (i=406a15b3@gateway/web/freenode/x-zklnebsoqlpgridv) left irc: "Page closed" [17:22] estud04: do you simply wish to control the desktop remotely? [17:22] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [17:22] maybe [17:22] slava_dp (n=slava@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:22] you could also use rsh and set the DISPLAY var manually [17:22] I only have remote shell access [17:22] wrw_ (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:22] if so, KDE provides a nice newbie gui for such stuff [17:22] and do the right thing with xhost [17:25] rogersman, please disregard my kde lib dir questions. [17:25] sometimes my remote shell stops responding [17:25] zerosoul13 (n=angel@201.171.102.72) left ##slackware. [17:25] done and done... [17:25] i kept doing cmake ../src [17:25] it should like a dsl outtage [17:25] and i needed to cmake .. [17:26] tut-tut .. oh well, lesson learned [17:26] like i said before, cmake == new [17:26] to me [17:27] jar_corefile (n=jar_core@host-BC6-SES-1.dhcp.stevens-tech.edu) left irc: "leaving" [17:27] -.- [17:28] mupi__ (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:28] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:28] configure: error: perl modul Locale::gettest required? [17:29] is this another dependancy [17:30] LitesterB (n=Litester@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:30] thanks again for all of your help folks [17:30] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:31] and do the right thing with xhost [17:31] oops [17:31] ./yeah that was it [17:31] Xpistos|work1: module is code for not a dependency, but not unlike a dependency either [17:35] it was a dependency. after I installed locale-gettest it allowed me to proceed [17:35] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:35] no, it was a required module [17:35] but now when I run gPodder I get a DISPLAY error? [17:35] as root? [17:35] ROOT [17:35] I am root yes [17:36] does openssh client or server has some option to deal with connection failure? [17:36] "You DISPLAY variable is not set correctly. Cannot start GUI." [17:36] Xpistos|work1, root can't just hijack an xsession directly. you need to import your .xauth from the user that owns the xsession [17:36] TCPKeepAlive yes [17:36] estud04, what do you expect them to do? [17:36] Xpistos|work1, two seconds... [17:36] gnubien (n=e@209.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:36] or do xhost +, but that opens *everything* up [17:36] Xpistos|work1, do what's in the first code block here. http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=linux:kernelbuilding [17:37] so bad idea unless you're willing to accept the consequences [17:37] tuxdev_: I'm sshing to a machine that drops the connection or changes ip like every 3 minutes [17:37] xhost +localhost isn't as bad [17:37] What file is that ".xauth"? or another [17:37] lol [17:38] it's ~/.Xauthority, not .xauth [17:38] Xpistos|work1, .Xauthority. it's on the page. alternatively you can apparently just do `sudo -s` from your regular user and then it will work [17:38] estud04, that's awfully fast [17:38] when It happens it seems that my ssh session becomes frozen [17:39] sometimes It can get back sometimes it seems that it will not forever [17:39] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-yevmeoilpxedstbf) left ##slackware. [17:39] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.177.208) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [17:39] I am not in the sudoers group [17:39] no network app can deal with that kind of instability [17:39] estud04, ssh always 'freezes' when the other computer disappears [17:39] estud04: that happens to me unless i tunnel something through it [17:40] Xpistos|work1, then you need to do the first box and use 'su' instead of sudo [17:40] Xpistos|work1, do you really need to run this thing as root? It's better if you don't [17:40] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.25.102) joined ##slackware. [17:40] What are you running as root, anyway? [17:40] estud04: try tunelling something that constantly transfers data through it [17:41] no idea [17:41] scp from /dev/null to devnull [17:41] works for me [17:41] I don't want to run anything as root [17:41] no like -L 2323:termcast.org:23 then telnet localhost 2323 [17:42] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:42] then use the termcast menu to get some data constantly moving through [17:42] I have to kill ssh [17:42] same here, but it stays up all day if i do this [17:43] or -L 6666:irc.freenode.net:6666 [17:43] should the .Xauthority file say offset and have a lot of numbers? Stranges config file I have ever seen [17:43] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [17:43] mitchx (n=user@chello089077133211.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:43] hello [17:44] Xpistos|work1, it's not really for you to touch [17:44] does anyone have a minute and can help me [17:44] ssh doesnt get it [17:44] I think xhost will do what you want [17:44] mitchx, just shoot [17:44] someone always has a minute, no need to ask [17:45] yes i know but i want to privmsg that person [17:45] that would be you?: ) [17:45] I got out of everything and it worked [17:45] I didnt' change any files [17:45] I would prefer you don't.. just describe what you feel like you safely can here [17:46] tuxdev_: who was that for? [17:46] well the problem is that i have a samba share that my friend cant access it [17:46] and he's using windows vista [17:46] tuxdev_: nvm [17:47] Xpistos|work1, np [17:47] mitchx: ftp ftw [17:47] im trying to troubleshooot and i figured out that only if i could do smbclient from a remote box im sure thats not the rpoblem on my side [17:47] but i dont have any remote shell [17:47] mitchx, have you verified it works for samba clients and Win XP? [17:47] ssh -L 6666:irc.freenode.net:6666 it's like wrong syntax [17:48] it works for me [17:48] on xp [17:48] but still its lan and xp [17:48] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: [17:48] mitchx: you are trying to open smb to the internet? [17:48] yes [17:48] i mean one host [17:48] only [17:48] his ip [17:49] that's not good enough, IPs change like the wind [17:49] estud04: ssh blah@blah.com -C -o TCPKeepAlive=yes -L 6666:irc.freenode.net:6666 [17:49] set up a VPN [17:49] estud04: then connect an irc client to localhost:6666 and join a busy channel :p [17:49] he's got a static one so its not gonna change [17:49] i think [17:49] estud04: then see how long your ssh will stay connected [17:49] it's still generally safer and more secure [17:49] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.54.16) joined ##slackware. [17:50] tuxdev_ so would you be that generous and run this smbclient on me? [17:50] cause i have no idea [17:50] whats your ip [17:50] we can just telnet to port 139 or whatever [17:50] well i think that telnet thing doesnt work [17:50] your isp or router might be blocking SMB [17:50] for good reason [17:51] tuxdev_: I am a neverous person by default combined with lack of sleep from my newborn and I just want to make sure my ettiqute is correct [17:51] I gotta have an unvoluntary OS change now [17:51] depending only on IP leaves you vulnerable to a possible man-in-the-middle [17:52] Xpistos|work1, good luck with all that.. and congrats? [17:53] Thanks [17:53] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.24.85) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:53] ettiquete? [17:53] With that, It is about time for me to go but I am very happy to say with all of your help. I will consider trying slackware for my own personal use -- maybe. LOL. Good night! 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[17:57] fire|bird: so, firefox was acting up on it, so i figured that i might upgrade her older -current to current -current... and sure enough, half way through it did a hard reset.. and didnt come back to life [17:57] ouch [17:57] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:57] fire|bird: so, i took it appart.... and there was a dust bunny with a cluebat in the heat sink :-/ [17:57] macavity: yikes [17:57] as in "fan spins up but nothing" [17:58] tuxdev_: what leaves you open to man-in-the-middle? telnet? [17:58] exactly.. and exercicing it even further with package decompression and WPA2 in software.. well :P [17:58] neonflux, depending on an IP address to tell you that a host is trusted [17:58] neonflux: anything that is not cryptographically signed :P [17:59] and, apparently, a couple of things that even are [17:59] got it [18:00] ARP poisoning and DNS injections is probably what has gotten the most boxen routed throughout history [18:00] *rooted [18:01] damnit :P [18:01] well.. routed to the attacker too :P [18:02] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:02] ok, back in the day sendmail used to be advertized under the slogan: "proudly granting root access on all platforms" :P [18:02] ARP poisoning is pretty easy these days [18:03] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:03] at least on a local LAN [18:04] Morpheubr (n=zoosap@189.58.239.111.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:04] hi all [18:04] set your NIC in promiscius mode and see what happens between you and your ISP gateway... it is most surely not just on the LAN [18:04] hello Morpheubr [18:04] i work with slack but i need a little help with windows xp bat script anybody can help me? [18:04] Eleth (n=fowler@apex.cs.tcd.ie) joined ##slackware. [18:05] Morpheubr, shoot [18:05] Morpheubr: ##windows probably can :P [18:05] that too [18:05] i need make a bat to dell files inside local config msn [18:05] bat scripting is incredibly painful [18:05] im in that chanel nobody answer [18:06] I might be tempted to say "install cygwin and do it in a real shell", but that wouldn't be nearly as fun [18:06] tuxdev_: calling bat scripting "incredibly painful" is like calling having a tooth removed without anestetic "a funny sensation" :P [18:06] cygwin rules [18:06] earp_child (n=Dirty@72-4-87-94.gncsin06.customers.broadreach.net) joined ##slackware. [18:06] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Client Quit [18:06] macavity, lol, so true.. [18:07] i dont like it to, but i dont want install any 3rd software [18:07] Morpheubr: del /? [18:07] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [18:07] liphian (n=omegasla@c-71-225-146-233.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:07] fortunately all the bat scripting I've done is "copy this file to over there" and "make a nice and clickable launcher" [18:07] command.com: /: No such drive [18:07] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:07] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) joined ##slackware. [18:08] "/del not work [18:08] "/rd not too [18:08] deltree? [18:08] "/erase [18:08] deltree not too :( [18:08] what? [18:09] are you sure your $PATH is not fucked? [18:09] yes i am [18:09] Morpheubr, we are trying to completely wipe out a dir, right? [18:09] del /q /s "c:\my head hurts\" [18:09] i am fairly certain that either del or deltree is in C:\windows\system or system32 [18:09] tuxdev_: deltree will accept file arguments too iirc [18:10] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:10] LitesterB (n=Litester@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [18:10] greetings and salutations [18:10] wee! the waffle guru :-) [18:10] greetings andarius, how are you? [18:11] salutings and greetations to you too :P [18:11] format c: or fdisk , etc also work :) [18:11] salutations fire|bird, i am well. you ? [18:11] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:11] salutations to you as well macavity [18:12] Stanto (i=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:12] Morpheubr: i dont have a windows box to test, but could you use the file finder to see if you have either deltree.exe, deltree.com, del.exe or del.com anywhere on that box? [18:12] andarius: I am great, thank you. I am trying to fix claws mail, something happened to it. :/ [18:12] format and fdisk are very different tools. what could one be doing where they server the same purpose ? [18:12] Morpheubr: getting them in the $PATH is easy enough [18:12] fire|bird: great mail app. what does not work ? [18:12] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30C59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [18:12] and did you use the slackbuild for it ? ;) [18:13] watch the pro at work :P [18:13] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [18:13] andarius: Well, I use it all the time, I had created a test account, then tried what I was looking to try, tried to delete that account, it wouldn't delete, so I killed claws, and now, it is in a semi-froze state, I can hit compose, get to the menus (except Configuration) and two of my accounts are gone. [18:14] wow [18:14] uh oh... [18:14] fire|bird: backup the .dir and copy in the files one at the time till you find the offender [18:15] i just did that manually with .kde the other day >_< [18:15] andarius: both missing accounts are imap, so I'm not all that worried, but this is just odd. [18:15] is there a ~/.claws-mail/tmp/claws-crashed ? [18:15] macavity: yeah, I already have a backup of ~/.claws-mail, so I can work on finding what happened, still just weird. [18:15] brb [18:16] tchello2009 (i=bb035dda@gateway/web/freenode/x-xzkhaljvkuubonde) joined ##slackware. [18:17] tchello2009 (i=bb035dda@gateway/web/freenode/x-xzkhaljvkuubonde) left ##slackware. [18:19] Stanto (i=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [18:19] yop-lait (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [18:20] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:21] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:22] fire|bird broke his claws... [18:22] anyone else see the irony in that? >.> [18:22] does a phoenix even have claws? [18:23] I think they'd be called talons.. but same difference [18:23] (hence the joke) [18:24] Morpheubr (n=zoosap@189.58.239.111.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:24] andarius: There is a ~/.claws-mail/tmp, but it is empty. [18:25] Morpheubr (n=zoosap@189.58.239.111.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:25] andarius: Also, ~/.claws-mail/accountrc has all my accounts. [18:27] dermoth (n=dermoth@205.151.111.9) got netsplit. [18:27] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [18:28] thanks for today.. and good night to everyone [18:28] good night macavity [18:28] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "...And thanks for all the fish!" [18:29] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:29] fire|bird: note sure there. never had it crash on me really [18:29] andarius: I haven't either. It's always worked great. [18:31] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [18:31] do you ahve the .bak files on the accounts? and after all you have done so far is it still borked ? [18:33] dermoth (n=dermoth@205.151.111.9) got lost in the net-split. [18:33] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [18:33] it's your box paying you back for that kde venture you were on the other day. ;) [18:34] cdrecord issues ? http://pastebin.com/d261c6924 [18:34] something about specifing tsize [18:35] I don't think you'll find anyone interested in helping you burn a pirated copy of windows [18:35] can someone take a look at it and help meh out? [18:35] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [18:35] agentc0re|work (n=jon@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left ##slackware. [18:35] dissociative (n=2-03@200.31.21.186) joined ##slackware. [18:35] thrice`, ok pretend its not a pirated copy of windows [18:35] too late [18:35] beatzz: I think it's defaulting to trying to make an audio CD [18:35] Morpheubr (n=zoosap@189.58.239.111.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: [18:35] think of it as helping me get rid of this lousy laptop for 200 much needed bucks [18:35] for once and all [18:35] pppppllleeeeaaaaasssseeee [18:35] cdrecord -data yourfilehere.iso [18:35] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [18:36] latelly I have been feeling that I need something like a remote or portable Virtual machine that I can use from anywhere just like gmail [18:36] or growisofs [18:36] Urchlay, i will give it a try [18:36] dermoth (n=dermoth@205.151.111.9) joined ##slackware. [18:36] hahah he left the name of the release in the pastebin [18:36] thrice`, those iso's are everywhere and they're not necessarily pirated. [18:36] I highly recommend you limit it with -speed 8 or -speed 16, and add -driveropts=burnfree [18:36] even jeev deletes the "guy_on_sheep.avi" shit [18:36] if you download the same iso technet serves from another site, is that pirating [18:36] jeev, those iso's are everywhere? [18:36] I'm switching computers all the time in a day between vista/linux [18:37] maybe not ultimate ;) [18:37] cdrecord -data /path/to/*.iso worked [18:37] boooyah! [18:37] thanks Urchlay !!! [18:38] wow, i tried to play eduke32 and my box locked up >.<; [18:38] without the -speed option, it tries to burn at the fastest speed the drive and media claim to support... which, in my experience, results in many coasters [18:38] Necos: ouch [18:38] yeah, that's what i said! [18:38] beatzz, good luck, windows 7 is 31337 [18:39] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.54.16) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:39] jeev, its not for me, im just putting it on there so i can sell it [18:39] to a windows user [18:39] LOL [18:39] beatzz, come on man you can't be that dumb [18:39] you're gonna probably get kicked if someone wakes up [18:39] lol [18:39] ? [18:40] you dont etll people on freenode you're gonna pirate [18:40] and even sell after that [18:40] !?! pirate?! [18:40] where!?!? [18:40] :p jk [18:40] check your butt [18:40] good point tho. [18:40] i mentioned 'torrent' in #windows or whatever it was and i almost died [18:40] but seriously, i mean, open source ftw [18:40] the funny thing is i had lost access to my technet, i had the key saved [18:41] and the technet iso elsewhere, i jus wanted to downloaded it fast [18:41] they had a shit fit [18:41] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:41] well thats cause they suck !#%@ [18:41] yeap [18:41] and you and I... [18:41] well...we use slackware [18:41] -_o [18:41] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30C59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [18:41] i use windows mostly for desktop purpose though [18:41] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.199.109) joined ##slackware. [18:42] I use slackware for desktop purpose. [18:42] its served me very well for the past few years [18:42] It sure is cool to have a large sense of self-satisfaction using Linux, right guys? [18:42] especialy on MY laptop [18:42] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:42] Acer 5570Z [18:42] ccfreak2k: wrong [18:42] ^ kick ass laptop [18:42] Wana hear a funny story? [18:43] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.166.209) joined ##slackware. [18:43] no comment [18:43] So my brother-n-law buys this laptop, screws it all up w/ Ubuntu (following my lead), then puts XP on it, cant get wifi to work, takes it to a shop, they say, unfixable, trash [18:43] charge him 99 bucks for TRYING [18:44] 60* [18:44] what an idiot [18:44] he then pays them 99 bucks to re-install XP fresh [18:44] they say, cant be done, keeps his 99 bucks [18:44] Nick change: fatalnix1995_ -> fatalnix1995 [18:44] he comes to my place like "Dude, this thing sucks, its a POS, its trash im throwing it away" [18:44] ... [18:44] so im like, "I'll buy it for 50 bucks" [18:44] let me guess [18:45] you got it and now you're using it [18:45] ? [18:45] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [18:45] slap slackware on it, and it has not failed me once in like 3 years [18:45] so predictable! [18:45] you are worse than the shop that fucked him in the ass [18:45] seriously [18:45] what kind of friend are you [18:45] a douchebag [18:45] in-law* [18:45] dident say he was a friend [18:46] what kind of human are you [18:46] lol [18:46] one with my mind on my money and my money on my mind! [18:46] no more stories please [18:46] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:47] hugohagogo (n=cleber@189.23.230.12) joined ##slackware. [18:47] well anyways. if u guys ever come by an Acer Aspire 5570Z [18:47] buy it [18:48] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [18:48] hmm, and cdrecord is not giving me the usual percent complte updates. [18:48] if you ever get some hood rat bitch to marry, you, take advantage of her brother in law [18:48] mater-a-fact it hasent said anything since its started recording [18:49] rofl @ the hood rat bitch [18:49] lol [18:49] i wish i had the balls to call her that. [18:49] i'd rather castrate myself with a hole puncher than use an acer [18:49] beatzz: because you forgot the -v option (verbose) [18:49] dude Acer > * [18:49] then again i know someone with one and it's alive and kicking [18:49] the wifi died though [18:49] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) joined ##slackware. [18:50] unless of course you know of one better. [18:50] dell latitude [18:50] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:51] i'm glad i have no idea what's going on >.> [18:51] Urchlay, It finished :D [18:51] Guest14448 (n=caio@190.244.41.20) left irc: "leaving" [18:51] Necos, should i replay my story for you? [18:52] didn't you see from above that i'm happy for you not to replay it :) [18:53] yea fine... -_- [18:53] hey all, anyone ever used this RGB port on the side of your laptop? [18:53] i'm gonna go play super punch out :) [18:53] is that to output video? or input? [18:53] OUTPUT [18:53] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.78.102.192) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:53] thats what i thought. [18:54] you use the function keys to activate it [18:54] i think my friend bought the wronge RGB cable. [18:54] your one friend? [18:54] Nick change: yop-lait -> [yop] [18:54] my brother.. [18:55] ... [18:55] actualy, in this town yes. [18:55] you could say that. [18:55] i hope your acer makes you infertile [18:55] come on homer, wheres the <3 ? [18:56] no <3 only h8 [18:56] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:57] come on homer, if u want i will scp you my new iso [18:57] ;) [18:57] dissociative (n=2-03@200.31.21.186) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:57] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-30-18.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: "Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug." [18:57] ok my ip is 145.333.693.43 user root password root [18:58] is there a way save a routing table so I can restore it upon server restart? [18:58] dissociative (n=2-03@200.31.21.186) joined ##slackware. [18:59] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:59] I need to scp the /etc directory of my home box to my usb stick [18:59] lets see [18:59] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:00] tar it first [19:00] the annnoying thing is to have to manually delete files like /etc/shadow in the destination [19:01] /etc/shadow and /etc/ppp/pap-secrets or whatever [19:02] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Client Quit [19:02] scp -r user@host /mnt/usb/test or something [19:02] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [19:02] I'm on windows now [19:02] :X [19:02] credo (n=cherchez@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. [19:02] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:03] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:03] use pscp [19:04] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-16-29.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] or rsync would be a better alternative as I would need constantly updating my copy of /etc [19:05] well not so constantly [19:05] and I need to set something like a blacklist of files [19:07] well, you could use at (same as linux), to schedule pscp [19:07] slackie (n=x@87.196.154.185) left irc: "l8r" [19:07] oops [19:08] I have disabled root login on sshd so I cant use scp to retreive /etc [19:08] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:09] kevin01123 (n=quassel@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:09] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:10] try this... [19:10] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.182) joined ##slackware. [19:10] cygwin with Net::SSH [19:10] and perl :P [19:12] oh its like everyday I discover new necesities and stuff! [19:13] impulse_ (n=impy@88.147.64.235) left irc: [19:13] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Success [19:14] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:14] hehehe [19:14] well, Net::SSH [19:16] andreas-- (n=andy@unaffiliated/slacky) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:17] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-30-18.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] etf (i=c9025cbd@gateway/web/freenode/x-qkzxdfmismzsjmjh) joined ##slackware. [19:20] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.166.209) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:27] This thing is such a bitch. [19:27] Suspend i say! [19:27] Suspend to ram! [19:27] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:28] type in poweroff and it will suspend to disk ;p [19:29] Mine doesn't do those things. It's more of a 'blink and fill dmesg with stack traces' kind of machine. [19:29] guess i'll just leave it on. [19:29] I keep meaning to back up a few kernels and see if it makes a difference. But I never do. [19:30] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.67.186) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:30] damn Pig_Pen [19:31] i thought you died in a peeling accident [19:31] hiptobecubic: have you tried pn-suppend? [19:31] almost, i am a talented tater peeler and excaped in the nick of time [19:31] ahh good [19:31] pm-suspend [19:33] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.199.222.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:34] tuxdev_ (n=tgoya@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: "Leaving" [19:34] anyone see that video of that guy that drives an expenive sports car (Bugatti) in to a salt marsh? [19:35] lol what? [19:35] sad [19:35] why the hell would anyone drive a bugatti in to a salt marsh? :P [19:35] either neglegence, stupidity or trying to collect insurance [19:36] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.56.164) joined ##slackware. [19:36] those are high dollar cars somewhere around 100 thousand (i think that high) [19:36] bugatti ? [19:36] kevin01123 (n=quassel@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:36] i think it's 1-2 million [19:36] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:36] 1.1 mil [19:37] kevin01123 (n=quassel@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:37] that right? higher than i thought [19:37] Pig_Pen, it's worth more than your city! [19:37] world of goo for linux... FUN! [19:38] thats too much for a car, even if i had 100 million in the bank i would not buy that, the most expensive car i would ever buy would be a chevrolet or Ford [19:38] world of goo is an awesome game [19:38] if i had 100 mill in the bank, i'd build as many youth centers as i could with 50 of it [19:39] impulse_ (n=impy@88.147.64.235) joined ##slackware. [19:39] >.> [19:39] 100 mil, invest at least 20% [19:39] invest in what? a failing economy? :) [19:39] necos, this economy isn't failing [19:39] it's rebounded massively [19:39] is it possible to remap keys without using xmodmap, so that the mapping works outside of X? [19:40] jobs will come back soon.. [19:40] i would help people, create jobs, feed the poor, etc... [19:40] it's just being held up by idiot right wingers who want the president to fail [19:40] Necos: on;t if you're in the USA [19:40] the market has already rebounded, everything has gone up... i was too stupid or else i'd be a multi millionaire right now, it had slipped my mind. [19:40] all that's left is for people to think they have money again and everything will be ok [19:42] lol [19:42] yeah, the big white lie :) [19:42] i'm gonna go play world of goo before i take off :P [19:42] heh [19:42] how's your studies [19:43] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:43] Action: alkos333 loves ipython [19:44] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-80-29.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [19:44] kevin01123 (n=quassel@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:45] kevin01123 (n=quassel@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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[19:53] both slacky and slacky.eu are not vaild choices at freenode. [19:53] .... [19:54] http://www.slacky.eu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1359&Itemid=50 [19:54] what's that say [19:55] thanks jeev . [19:55] earp_child (n=Dirty@72-4-87-94.gncsin06.customers.broadreach.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:55] no prob [19:56] etf (i=c9025cbd@gateway/web/freenode/x-qkzxdfmismzsjmjh) left irc: "Page closed" [20:00] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) joined ##slackware. [20:00] wrw_ (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) joined ##slackware. [20:00] john_dee (n=id@95-29-9-214.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:01] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:02] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:02] there is a cool show on PBS about Shangrila [20:02] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:02] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Ho_çakal1n | Bye bye" [20:07] where The Band recorded ? Or the mythical place... [20:07] a place in northern Nepal, next to Tibet [20:08] weird, the number of frames per second goes down so significantly when I increase the size of the glxgears window.. .. didn't last time I tried that .. on the same machine.. about 2 years ago [20:12] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [20:13] gotta love pbs in high def [20:14] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:14] wrw (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:14] 'shangri-la' [20:15] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [20:17] wrw (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) joined ##slackware. [20:18] Action: beatzz walks in with fatty stacks of cash [20:18] sold that infernile laptop once and for all!!! [20:20] Go get hookers and beer now [20:20] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:20] and condoms too [20:20] dood [20:20] thanks again [20:20] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:20] fatty stacks of cash amount to something over 100k [20:20] at least to me [20:20] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [20:21] antiwire, [20:21] u know me well [20:21] i allready got the brew [20:21] :P [20:21] and my wife will have to sufice [20:22] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:22] gn all [20:22] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:22] liphian (n=omegasla@c-71-225-146-233.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:25] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-243-92.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:28] wrw__ (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) joined ##slackware. [20:29] wrw_ (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:29] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.4.32.132) left irc: "Leaving" [20:31] slackie (n=x@cb-217-129-168-42.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [20:33] slackie (n=x@cb-217-129-168-42.netvisao.pt) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:34] jeev: don't worry, give me your money, i'll put it to good use [20:40] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:40] http://www.uncrate.com/men/gear/transportation/excelsior-dawes-hovercraft/ [20:40] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [20:42] wrw (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:43] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:47] kevin01123 (n=quassel@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:47] nnyby (n=nybnik10@ada.evergreen.edu) joined ##slackware. [20:47] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:49] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [20:49] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:51] nv4Phil (n=phil@96-24-254-57.nvl.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] hi guys... I have an issue. I broke my "qt" install when I upgraded it, in order to run Opera 10.1 ... How do I revert to the previous install? currently, a massive number of my kde apps refuse to run... all because I wanted to run opera.... sigh. [20:53] How did you 'upgrade' Qt? [20:54] hi antiwire ltns. I do not remember at this point, what exactly I have done. I believe when it was when I ran slapt-get that it installed a newer batch of qt libraries... [20:55] that's good :) what does "ls /var/log/packages/qt*" tell you the version is ? [20:56] .. /var/log/packages/qt-3.3.8b-i486-2 [20:58] a bunch of the libQt????.so.4 libraries seem to be failing to open [20:58] ok, you downgraded from qt4 to qt3 [20:58] hrm... I wonder how I did *that* [20:58] oh well... how do I remedy the situation [20:59] I was attempting to grab the latest qt libraries so that I could run opera... I thought it was *upgraded* which made everything start failing... apparently it was *downgraded* [21:00] dont' use slapt-get [21:01] johndee (n=id@95-29-145-126.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:01] well I started by trying to search packages.slackware.it and noted that it was down. [21:02] slackpkg ships with slackware [21:02] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:03] slackpkg says I have a broken /var/log/packages [21:03] opera has qt4 builds. [21:04] with like, everything and its brother duplicated. [21:04] maybe slapt-get f'ed your system. unfortunately, your warranty is now void [21:05] if it is that big a mess, save /home & /etc somewhere safe and wipe and do a clean install [21:05] Pig_Pen: that was next on my list, but at this point I don't have anything to burn an install dvd with (k3b fails to run) [21:07] nv4Phil: use the cli tools [21:07] deco: explain? [21:07] nv4Phil: to burn a dvd [21:07] Is anyone in here an tel/cable/electric co. lineman? [21:07] man cli returns no manual entry for cli [21:07] nv4Phil: lol [21:07] Action: deco goes back to reading [21:08] antler (n=m3@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [21:08] greetings good looking (and ugly) peeps :) [21:09] y0 antler [21:09] anyone good with sound cards and digital audio out? [21:09] how would i go about using the mv command to move all files that end with .txt, but not txt [21:09] fire|bird: hey, how's it going? [21:09] Reticenti: mv *.txt [21:10] (for windows) ^^ :P [21:10] Reticenti: mv *.txt /path/to/where/you/want/them/ [21:10] deco: doesnt that move the file "txt" too? [21:10] antler: going great, thanks. you? [21:10] Reticenti: no. [21:10] Reticenti: . is a character too [21:10] fire|bird: pretty good, thanks. trying to get s/pdif working in vindows. :P [21:10] hmm, i thought it did, thanks [21:10] Reticenti: how ? that's why you add the "." meaning anything that ends with an extention txt [21:11] antler: Windows, why? :P [21:11] anyone know of a super-fast ftp mirror for the slackware 13 dvd iso? [21:11] fire|bird: for the wife, you know. it's easier, blah, blah, blah. and video is sooooo much better (imo) :) [21:11] 'super fast' is relative [21:11] 10 hours is too long to wait, at this point. [21:12] nv4Phil: where do you live ? [21:12] frogger_ (n=frogger_@pool-173-48-183-169.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:12] antler: ok, so, what exactly are you having issues with? [21:12] frullet (n=hooch@203-206-19-122.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [21:12] slackware.mirrors.tds.net is only running 130k/s [21:12] deco: Nashville, Tennessee, USA [21:13] I'm pulling down Fedora 12 @ ~400kbps right now [21:13] nv4Phil: try mine: http://mirrors.vbi.vt.edu/mirrors/linux/slackware/slackware-13.0-iso/ [21:13] fluke (n=fluke@86-45-85-201-dynamic.b-ras2.srl.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [21:14] fire|bird: hookup == optical out from sound card to optical in receiver. test tones for the dts and dolby encoded formats can be heard. sample rates, however, e.g., 44.1, 48, ..., 192 kHz CANNOT be heard. just trying to figure out why. [21:14] hello folks, really noob question, but how do i change the domain name i entered after a fresh install of slackware? [21:14] nv4Phil: hmmmm i know about the ones in the west coast [21:14] ananke: only 60k/s [21:14] fire|bird: when hookup == headphone jack wire from card to receiver, i get sound. [21:15] fluke: /etc/HOSTNAME [21:15] fluke: hostname new_name_here [21:15] ty :) [21:16] nv4Phil: torrent it [21:16] better [21:16] ah that worked, thanks again [21:17] hdmi out from vid card to receiver would be dandy, only receiver doesn't have hdmi :P [21:17] nv4Phil: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php [21:17] nv4Phil: then your connection sucks [21:17] thanks deco [21:17] nv4Phil: you're welcome [21:18] ananke: public wifi attm. coffee shop. [21:18] Action: nv4Phil shouldn't have said that out loud.... [21:18] hrm [21:18] oh well [21:18] It's not a bad word [21:18] no, but it's a security risk [21:18] lol [21:18] nv4Phil: and you're surprised you get lousy transfer? [21:19] It's only a security risk if you are not dealing with the possibility of hostiles on the network properly [21:19] ananke: yes. the guy is running straight in, and I don't see any others using it [21:19] l_n (n=shawn@tuxhacker/lordnothing) left irc: "leaving" [21:20] ...and antiwire is well known for his hostility. [21:20] fluke (n=fluke@86-45-85-201-dynamic.b-ras2.srl.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:20] I use either an openvpn certificate based vpn or key based ssh tunnels when I'm on public wifi [21:22] fire|bird: well, my laziness kicked in. it's back to the little headphone jack wire. the receiver has dsp, which means i can get pseudo-dolby surround. :D [21:22] antler: hahaha, good work lazy man. :P [21:23] vuze fails. bittorrent fails. qbittorrent of course is gonna fail... dammit [21:24] nv4Phil: are you gonna download the dvd iso ? [21:24] deco: trying to attm [21:25] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Operation timed out [21:26] for now, what would be a decent alternative (ie, downloading qt 4 libs? where do I get a package for that?) [21:27] Nick change: clavius2 -> clavius [21:28] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:31] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:32] you can download a stock slackware qt4 package if that is all you need [21:32] pig_pen that is possibly all I need, yeah. [21:33] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:34] get the correct version [21:34] antler (n=m3@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: [21:35] http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/12.2/libraries/qt4.tar.gz -- will that suffice? or do I need a .tgz/.txz [21:35] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [21:35] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:35] for slackware 12.2 ? tgz [21:35] pupiteee (n=p@109.93.15.223) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:36] dont get txz unless you are using 13 [21:36] nv4Phil: You're using 13, right? [21:36] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [21:36] I'm using something from earlier than 13.0rc1 I think... but it's not a definite straight 12.2 [21:37] like, a beta or something. I forget how it was phrased [21:37] (I'm having a major brain fart heh.) [21:38] a clean install of one version would remove all doubt [21:38] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:38] john_dee (n=id@95-29-145-195.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [21:38] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:38] Pig_Pen I have no versions anywhere on any available system... they have to be downloaded. I'm in the process of downloading one....but I would like to get this up and running sooner than the time it will take to download a dvd iso [21:39] I recently moved and most of my computer stuff was placed in storage [21:41] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30C59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:41] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30EEF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [21:43] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [21:46] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: [21:48] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:51] wrw (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) joined ##slackware. [21:51] wrw__ (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:52] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: "Leaving." 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[22:12] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:12] you guys ever have your dvd drive scare you? [22:12] I started burning the slack ISO, zoned out, and then jumped when the tray opened. [22:14] lol [22:14] yeah lol [22:15] I found an old slackware dvd iso... how do I burn that to a dvd via the console? i have forgotten, growisofs or something? [22:16] nv4Phil: $ growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=my_distro.iso [22:17] spider_ (n=spider@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] thank you. it's burning. [22:17] 1_General [22:17] 1 [22:18] Nick change: spider_ -> spider1010 [22:18] join [22:18] slackmagic (i=1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [22:18] next, I'll just cp my ~ and then reinstall this version, I suppose... and then download and install a newer slackware overnight [22:19] su [22:19] ack [22:19] denied !! [22:19] v4nelle (n=van@188.4.199.222.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [22:19] pleeease [22:19] no, root is all mine :P [22:19] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:20] s/,// [22:24] latemus (n=m3@c-67-177-49-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [22:26] frogger_ (n=frogger_@pool-173-48-183-169.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:27] my rc.mysql doesn't start at boot [22:27] permissions are 750 [22:27] i added mysql start to /etc/rc.d/rc.local and that works [22:28] but i shouldn't have to do that [22:28] any ideas [22:28] Slack 12.2 [22:28] wrw_ (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) joined ##slackware. [22:29] uSlacker (n=uSlackr@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:29] read the file /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld and follow the directions in it [22:30] that would be my idea [22:31] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [22:32] uSlacker (n=uSlackr@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] wrw (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [22:34] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:34] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:34] okay... I appear to be back in business... I missed my movie, but at least I appear to have opera and the other apps working again. [22:34] thank you guys for your time [22:35] from this point I'm just gonna simply upgrade to the *completed* -- what would you call that... "stable" version of 13.0, when I get a chance [22:36] see y'all later [22:36] 13 is stable ??? [22:36] unless you're talking non x86 [22:36] I'm on amd, but it's 32-bit so I assume it's x86 [22:37] yup, amd is x86 [22:37] unless it is an x86_64 [22:37] no, this is 32-it [22:37] bit* [22:38] see y'all later [22:38] and i meant x86* ie. 32 or 64bit :) [22:39] nv4Phil (n=phil@96-24-254-57.nvl.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:41] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:41] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:44] wrw (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) joined ##slackware. [22:44] good night [22:44] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [22:46] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:47] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:47] laters, sleepytime for me [22:47] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [22:48] well, well, well. If it isn't the little flower. [22:49] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) joined ##slackware. [22:49] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:49] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-248-127-232.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:50] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [22:51] veritos (n=karhu@vergil01.u.washington.edu) joined ##slackware. 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[23:08] welp... slackware 13.0 downloads a lot faster from the wifi at home than it does from the wifi at the coffee shop. should take less than an hour instead of 8+ hours. [23:08] at this rate, I may go ahead and throw it on here tonight [23:09] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-141-152-144-238.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] Heya,slackers..How's everyone? [23:09] ang (n=ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] hey MLanden, how are you? [23:10] MLanden: howdy [23:10] Fine thanks fire|bird...yourself? [23:10] MLanden: great, thank you. [23:10] Howdy, BP{k} [23:14] Heya fire|bird, MLanden, BP{k} how are gentlemen on this fine evening? [23:14] petslack (n=petslack@201-68-130-150.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [23:14] wrw__ (n=wrw@80.244.204.31) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:14] veritos (n=karhu@vergil01.u.washington.edu) left ##slackware. [23:14] heya hitest, great, thanks. you? [23:15] can i haz my new seamonkey? [23:15] Doin' fine thanks hitest...and how are you? [23:15] fire|bird: I am well thank you:) [23:15] neonflux (n=neonflux@209.19.58.106) joined ##slackware. [23:15] MLanden: I am well, ty:) [23:16] Action: hitest needs some wine [23:16] wow, wine ? [23:16] want a penis with that ? hahah [23:16] D [23:16] ;D [23:16] Action: jeev doesn't drink [23:16] mancha: still no seamonkey for you? :P [23:16] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [23:17] jeev: uh...........no...you can have the penis...thanks. [23:17] hitest: not too bad actually, relaxing, having sake, and trying to make sense of my bash script :) [23:17] f'bird no, what up with no security release dawg? [23:17] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-201-239.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [23:17] lol [23:17] BP{k}: heya! there's sense in bash? ;) What sake are you drinking? [23:17] mancha: I wish I knew. [23:17] f'bird just doesn't sound... right.... ya know? [23:18] BP{k}: awesome. I haven't had a glass of sake in years. I love that stuff:) [23:18] agentc0re: hahaha [23:18] hitest: must not love it enough. ;) [23:18] Action: hitest goes upstairs for wine [23:18] f'bird reminds me of t'bird [23:18] agentc0re: remember I linked to you a bottle last time? [23:18] agentc0re: ha-ha [23:18] BP{k}: ah, that one still. [23:19] be back in a few minutes [23:19] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [23:19] BP{k}: I'd buy a bottle if i could order over the internet. [23:19] agentc0re: well I bought two small bottles that time. just opened the second one tonight :) [23:19] no local asian market? [23:19] liphian (n=omegasla@c-71-225-146-233.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:20] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:20] slackie (n=x@87-196-154-185.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [23:21] BP{k}: two is always better than one. whats the name of it again so i can actually write it down this time? [23:22] sometime between my old mplayer snapshot and my new mplayer snapshot they fixed the gui code a lot! the gui version purrs like a kitten now [23:22] redux (n=poo@ppp118-208-90-254.lns20.bne4.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [23:22] and that makes me happy [23:22] mgjschdl (n=none@CPE002129932877-CM0011ae91a686.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:22] freeballer (n=none@CPE002129932877-CM0011ae91a686.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [23:23] mgjschdl (n=none@CPE002129932877-CM0011ae91a686.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [23:23] stuartpb (n=stuartpb@c-24-16-108-67.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:24] freeballer (n=none@CPE002129932877-CM0011ae91a686.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:24] i thought they intended to remove it [23:24] as it was unmaintained for years [23:25] some maintenance was done between my two snapshots, as i mentioned. [23:26] to be honest i wouldn't really miss it if it were to die [23:26] agentc0re: http://www.webwine.com/r/products/ozeki-karatamba [23:26] redux (n=poo@ppp118-208-90-254.lns20.bne4.internode.on.net) left ##slackware. [23:28] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [23:28] BP{k}: hehe "One or more of your items can not be shipped to UT." [23:28] bummer [23:29] erisco (n=kambee@181.131.128.131.reshall.uri.edu) joined ##slackware. [23:31] fire|bird: ping [23:31] antler: pong [23:31] Quit or the sub will locate us. [23:31] too late [23:31] BOOOOM [23:32] You sank my battleship [23:32] What do you guys use for media player? Audacious sucks, i can't play with certain audio formats the way I want to. [23:32] mplayer is the grand emperor of media players [23:32] VLC [23:32] agentc0re: boo! [23:32] lol [23:33] mplayer eh? I had a pain in the ass with that last time...maybe that means it's superior to me and I should learn it [23:33] you got owned. mplayer's not for everyone [23:33] fire|bird: heh who would've thought that disabling the onboard audio wasn't enough. i had to uninstall the onboard audio driver, disable it in the bios. in any case, i have true surround from the puter. :D [23:33] BP{k}: yer telling me. Wonder if i can setup a pobox in another state that will forward mail to me. [23:33] "not for anyone" normally means it's my cup of tea ;) [23:33] i'm a noob, but willing to put effort. [23:33] mgjschdl (n=none@CPE002129932877-CM0011ae91a686.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: [23:34] antler: hahaha, yeah, there's more to it than disabling. Glad it's working now. [23:34] erisco: which audio formats? [23:34] pattwo (n=pat@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [23:34] agentc0re: just move man ;) [23:34] mlanden: FLAC, i can't adjust audio levels. I need to go into "alsamixer" for htat. [23:35] fire|bird: i'm glad that the urge to click a few more times overcame my amoeba-ness :P [23:35] lol [23:38] BP{k}: but then who will buy all the alcohol in Utah? No one... Then all liquor sales drop, and lots go out of business.... Next thing ya know we'll live in a world without beer, wine, mead, sake.. etc.. And then guess who you'd be blaming... ME. So i'm saving the world from it's liquor loss by continuing to live here. :P [23:38] Thanks Mancha [23:39] welcome erisco [23:40] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:40] BP{k}: see.. http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=8029317&nid=148 !! [23:40] hmm kwort moved to a crux base in latest release instead of slackware [23:42] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:42] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.182) left irc: "Leaving" [23:42] erisco (n=kambee@181.131.128.131.reshall.uri.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:42] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.182) joined ##slackware. [23:43] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.182) left irc: Client Quit [23:44] fluke (n=fluke@86-45-85-201-dynamic.b-ras2.srl.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:44] aiiiiiii (n=Ig0r@Tribalero.Atlantica.US) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:44] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-74-209-11-2.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:45] sahk0: never tried that distro...any good? [23:45] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-74-209-11-2.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [23:46] kwort or crux? [23:46] kwort [23:47] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: [23:47] dont really know. its the only slackware based ive once considered using. but didnt in the end [23:48] sahk0: ok [23:49] spider1010 (n=spider@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Hey! Where'd my controlling terminal go?" [23:50] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [23:53] Nick change: init[0] -> init[1] [23:54] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [23:54] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [23:54] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.174) joined ##slackware. [23:54] I need a fast text editor, one that can handle a matrix of 5000 times 1500 values, and handles it fast. [23:55] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Client Quit [23:55] cryptic0: vim didn't handle that? [23:55] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.174) left irc: Client Quit [23:55] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:55] what kind of editing? [23:55] will it? kwrite has been my favorite editor so far, but clearly it's struggling at even 1000 times 500 [23:56] cryptic0: try gvim then, [23:56] words and letter phrases [23:56] init[1] what kind of editing? [23:56] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:56] tripFantastic: no idea, [23:57] tripFantastic: basically I need to prepare my population data in a format recognized by analytical softwares [23:57] MLanden see an Invite? [23:57] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:57] cryptic0 why not sc.1? [23:57] tripFantastic: what is that? [23:57] the spreadsheet [23:58] tripFantastic: yes,thanks ... 'bout to log off in a little while..sorry [23:58] MLanden just 1m pls [23:58] tripFantastic: spreadsheet in openoffice can't handle more than 1024 columns [23:58] gui ss be damned :) [23:58] script it [23:58] tripFantastic: please explain more. I am not a coder :) [23:58] but I am trying to become one (Python) [00:00] --- Thu Nov 19 2009