[00:00] nyRednek: so survivors would probably flock your way [00:00] popl: possibly [00:00] <\fwc\> hey nyRednek, i think i offered you a free AMD machine a while back.. you have any use for socket AM2 CPUs? [00:01] ok, I'm going to go watch Hulu [00:01] see y [00:01] *ya [00:01] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) left irc: Quit: http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop. [00:01] \fwc\: sure, i got use for any hardware [00:01] <\fwc\> haha, i have a spare 2.7GHz dual core brisbane, noone i know has an AM2 board to put it in [00:02] <\fwc\> where were you at in NY again [00:03] Nick change: \fwc\ -> FrankD [00:03] FrankD: staten island [00:04] ahh, the crappiest borough :) [00:04] FrankD: that would be queens [00:04] OHH.. no you didnt. [00:04] hehe [00:05] take it easy eh [00:05] CaptChron (~CaptChron@host-72-174-20-43.msl-mt.client.bresnan.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:05] FrankD: no, the crappiest borough would have to be jersey city [00:06] hahah [00:06] FrankD: or elizabeth [00:06] ahh good old JC, i put some traffic cameras up there [00:06] actually, i like some parts of JC heh [00:06] FrankD: the difference, i can actually maneuver a 65' rig in elizabeth [00:06] hah [00:07] well, i make it a point to never drive anything bigger than a '64 impala.. although, thats probably almost 65' long.. [00:07] jersey city? for the most part, you're fsck'ed [00:07] yeah [00:08] FrankD: 65' rig==389 peterbilt + 53' trailer [00:08] heh nice [00:08] the channel is quiet tonight! [00:09] FrankD: yeah, until you miss a turn in JC trying to deliver to a shop rite [00:09] Action: macavity spooks FrankD: BOOH! :-) [00:10] FrankD: that was really messed up [00:11] FrankD: then again, i was working out of lawnside [00:11] ouch [00:11] FrankD: the cop who helped me out guided me down some streets that a truck is *not* supposed to go down [00:12] FrankD: mainly because the trailer hangs over parked cars as you drive past [00:12] ahaha yeah i could definitely see how that could happen [00:12] fossfun (fossfun@unaffiliated/fossfun) left ##slackware ("."). [00:13] one mistake of more than 3"==totalled car [00:13] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:13] i used to see this girl down there, and yeah.. parking sucked, wasnt unusual to have to walk 3 or 4 blocks heh [00:14] definitely wouldnt want to drive a truck anywhere around there [00:14] now once i got into the parking lot to try to put the truck into the dock, it was all good [00:14] customer: "fsck the pedestrians, if they don't see you, they don't need to breed [00:15] hahah [00:15] good thing he said that...it was a blind side 90 degree back [00:16] and, btw, that's a challenge to most of us [00:16] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [00:17] blind side==dock is to your right as you try to back in...less visibility as you try to line up [00:18] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [00:19] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.118.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:22] FrankD: too bad i can't do that anymore [00:23] hah yeah [00:23] biggest thing i ever drove was a box truck deliverin bread :P [00:25] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:26] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.44.82) joined ##slackware. [00:26] hmm should i get an amd 1055T for my gaming machine to replace the phenom 940, and put the 940 in my main slack box.... or do i just get an X3 435 or something for the slack box and wait for AMD Bulldozer based stuff to upgrade the gaming machine? [00:27] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-101.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:27] FrankD: do not compile a kernel without cdrom support. [00:27] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [00:27] FrankD: either way, i'll take your old hardware [00:29] pupit: haha, why not? [00:29] nyRednek: haha sure, i have that X2 5200+.. sitting in my car [00:30] FrankD: well, i'll be going to mineola tomorrow, well, today [00:31] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [00:31] hello all [00:32] nyRednek, hmm i might be in queens the weekend after this one [00:32] FrankD: oh, i don't go east on the weekends [00:33] im looking at apartments in poughkeepsie.. ugh [00:33] FrankD: you can keep dutchess co and the entirety of their corrupt highway cops [00:33] haha yeah they suck [00:33] i live in orange right now [00:33] FrankD: newburgh? [00:34] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.227.199) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:34] about 10 minutes west of nb [00:34] FrankD: ok, my last company had a terminal at newburgh [00:34] ahh [00:35] i hate driving TO work.. i dont mind driving FOR work, but it sucks wasting 2 hours of my day getting to/from work :\ [00:35] FrankD: it was great, any time my truck started having issues, i'd limp it into newburgh [00:35] i love how its not that far, and it takes me as long as it did when i used to work in hackensack [00:35] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [00:36] cause then i'd get free hotel, free meals, etc [00:36] hah nice [00:36] if i broke down in jersey, i didn't get #!7 [00:36] i get free nothing, i took the first job i could find.... for manpower, and working through staffing firms sucks [00:36] FrankD: they don't hire truckers through staffing firms [00:37] but i figured its @ IBM, and MAYBE i could impress someone enough to get a semi-real job [00:37] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:37] in retrospect, i shouldve went for the 8 interviews i got calls for the day after i said id take this job heh [00:39] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [00:39] FrankD: prolly shoulda [00:39] \o [00:40] :-\ [00:44] talso (~talso@S010600402d8fd95b.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: 2.6.35.2 [00:47] ahaha amazing, every linux machine here.. uses firefox 1.5 [00:48] FrankD: what? [00:48] @ IBM [00:48] FrankD: oh...that's kinda funny [00:48] dynamic frequency scaling is also screwed up or non functional on half of them, they're C2D machines too [00:49] just out of curiosity, from the install screen on the slack 13 dvd, can I resize my ntfs partition? Or do I gotta get some other software too do it? [00:49] tuvok302Lappy: the latter [00:49] and ollllllddddd kernels, 2.6.9 [00:49] You'll probably want to use parted or gparted. [00:49] I recommend the partedmagic livecd [00:50] yeah, that's what I was figuring. Probably going to use gparted, I have it around somewhere [00:52] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:52] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:53] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [00:54] kickback (~kickback@122.173.250.242) joined ##slackware. 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[01:20] Blaxter, just say what you need help with [01:21] by error i delete te /etc/fstab [01:21] make a new one [01:21] not a big deal [01:22] just don't reboot (lol) [01:23] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [01:23] ugh why cant laptops come with no OS? [01:23] or boot from cd long enough to rebuild it [01:24] i have laptop HP 6730s a slackware 13 [01:24] Blaxter, alisonken1lap has the no-brainer solution [01:24] you don't even need to know what's in fstab to do that [01:25] FrankD: i guess acer makes some of those. but they have FreeDOS i guess [01:25] good enough, so long as im not paying for windows :P [01:27] i just wish i could order one without a hard drive/OS license.. because im just going to put an SSD in it anyway [01:27] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:27] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:28] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:28] if thats the case, dell and MSI make some ubuntu laptops [01:29] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-162-101.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [01:29] ohreally [01:29] ill have to look into that, thanks [01:30] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [01:33] FrankD: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs [01:42] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-76-2.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:48] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:49] Saddam looked like such a nice guy. [01:50] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [01:52] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [01:52] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-101.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:52] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. 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[02:03] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-115-207.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 241 seconds [02:03] vignesh (~vignesh@122.164.12.228) joined ##slackware. [02:05] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-163-55-227.range86-163.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [02:05] tripFantastic (1000@c-68-56-204-104.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:05] mornin [02:05] anyone with gmail-fu here? [02:06] i need some asst :) [02:06] i have gmail... what's up, tripFantastic [02:06] hi sho [02:06] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [02:07] heya folks [02:07] ok so on the main gmail screen, i was messin with the lab/gagdet settings and did someth that i cant figer out how to undo [02:07] MLanden hihi [02:07] hey MLanden! [02:07] heya tripFantastic [02:07] tripFantastic, that's really a gmail problem... [02:07] Hey guys [02:07] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:07] not a slack problem [02:07] heya shonudo [02:07] shonudo before the main inbox listing, i've got two "preview" boxes of lists [02:07] i dint say it was slack prob [02:07] hey MLanden; good evening [02:08] heya vignesh [02:08] i axed for gmail-fu [02:08] tripFantastic, I think you have turned on multiple inboxes [02:08] vignesh ok will chk [02:08] tripFantastic, what did you click/do/set? [02:08] hey vignesh [02:08] DallaRosa (~dalla@y000211.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:08] almost everythin :) [02:08] brb [02:08] lol [02:08] Morning shonudo , MLanden [02:08] good morning, indeed (by 1 minute here) [02:08] tripFantastic, you can switch to classic view [02:09] I have 25 minutes to noon here [02:09] vignesh is on the nose!!! tyvm [02:09] where are you, vignesh (india)? [02:09] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) joined ##slackware. [02:09] PErsia [02:09] Yeah :) [02:09] vignesh excellent, tyvm [02:10] tripFantastic, you speak farsi? [02:10] nop [02:10] ah [02:10] persian [02:10] poor proud meerkin uniglot :) [02:10] lol [02:10] with a smattering of digital and lingual languages :) [02:11] espec. forth, asm and ascii :) [02:11] rofl [02:11] lol [02:11] lol [02:11] the computer here knows utf8 [02:11] usually [02:11] computers are smart like that [02:11] bs [02:11] computers are stupid [02:11] heh [02:11] popl right! [02:12] lol [02:12] computers are as smart as the people who program them. [02:12] the guys who invented it are smart [02:12] or were smart [02:12] the machines themselves are hardware simplifications of an abstract idea [02:12] dont let Turing here you say that! [02:12] Rat409 (~rat@bb-205-209-95-251.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [02:12] muwahwahwahwa [02:12] today the way computers are heading I would say crazy not smart [02:12] lol [02:13] shonudo: mersi(thanks) and bebaksheed(excuse me)..that's 'bout my knowledge in Farsi [02:13] tripFantastic: Turing would probably concur. [02:13] what's Terminators' system name? [02:13] well, he was crazy too so, God knows [02:13] SkyNet? [02:13] yea [02:13] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:13] pre-google [02:13] MLanden, ni hablar... un placer, compa [02:13] wait [02:13] fun fact: dropping Turing's name in a conversation does not make other people automatically think you're smart. :P [02:13] pre-skynet is google [02:13] haha [02:13] lol [02:14] i duno car [02:14] oops [02:14] iduncar [02:14] or for you lispy types [02:14] (car(dun(I))) [02:14] oops [02:14] my mental gear sliped into lispy mode [02:14] tripFantastic: that's a good way to get on peoples' ignore lists [02:15] yay [02:15] so tripFantastic, did you solve the gmail problem? [02:15] yep [02:15] vignesh hadDaAnswer [02:15] good deal [02:15] :O [02:15] yea [02:15] ty for your asst too [02:15] :)* [02:15] tripFantastic, good [02:15] popl trim daHerd [02:15] shonudo: no speak...an land,understand? rough translation...;*) [02:15] evilaz (~user@cpe-075-176-171-074.sc.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:15] edthix (~ed@175.137.39.176) joined ##slackware. [02:16] edthix (~ed@175.137.39.176) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:16] so what'st he slackLatest? [02:16] so what's the slackLatest? [02:16] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [02:16] tripFantastic, Slackware-current ? [02:16] MLanden: rough translation: np, my pleasure, bud [02:16] generally [02:17] shonudo: ahh...gotcha [02:17] OH [02:17] OOOH [02:17] asst means assistance [02:17] yea [02:17] I thought he was thanking you for your ass [02:17] and Ass+t [02:17] yea :) [02:17] hah [02:17] lol [02:17] lol [02:17] lmao [02:17] slow on the picj-up? [02:17] pickup [02:17] lol [02:18] I'm just perverse I suppose [02:18] pff; bs [02:18] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: Quit: gh [02:18] you're addled [02:18] rofl [02:18] btw, **gotcha** [02:18] it's a troll [02:18] lol [02:18] edthix (~ed@175.137.39.176) joined ##slackware. [02:19] brb [02:19] jhw (~jhw@p548D699B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [02:20] vignesh (~vignesh@122.164.12.228) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:21] Nick change: gimped -> Gimped [02:22] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:23] vignesh (~vignesh@122.164.12.228) joined ##slackware. [02:27] vignesh (~vignesh@122.164.12.228) left irc: Client Quit [02:33] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:34] tripFantastic (1000@c-68-56-204-104.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [02:36] vignesh (~vignesh@122.164.12.228) joined ##slackware. [02:36] Anyone using gsb ? [02:37] what is that thing? [02:37] Its Gnome slack build [02:37] ohhh ic [02:38] no seems to be online at #gsb [02:38] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-27.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:38] I think gsb is not supported in this channel so I asked if anyone is using it [02:38] vignesh: not supported, and, personally, using fvwm [02:39] Good [02:39] I use wmaker [02:39] icewm [02:39] for the win! [02:39] vignesh: It hasn't been in Slackware for years [02:39] But also use gnome , kde, etc [02:39] popl, I know [02:39] pekwm,in xfce4 atm [02:39] you use GNOME *and* KDE? [02:39] Yeah, I like the best of both worlds and a follower of none [02:39] popl: wmaker is on SBo, iirc [02:40] I will stop using gnome once they implement gnome shell as default [02:40] nyRednek: That's interesting. [02:40] :P [02:40] popl: afterstep is there, i know [02:40] nyRednek: Why are you telling me? [02:40] lol [02:40] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.2, revision: 4740, sources date: 20100627, built on: 2010-08-08 18:29:00 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [02:40] popl: half asleep and typing to be typing [02:41] afterstep is the best WM ever.. [02:41] nyRednek: Then go to sleep. [02:41] FrankD: one of [02:41] I find afterstep a bit weird [02:41] hah i used to love afterstep, back in the 2.0-2.2 days :p [02:41] I liked windowmaker when I used it over 10 years ago [02:41] :P [02:41] I still like wmaker [02:41] I haven't used it in about that long. [02:41] only thing is it doesnt have a tray [02:41] FrankD: it's not bad [02:42] There was one called Windowlab [02:42] vignesh: i thought you had dockapps that were essentially more flexible than a tray [02:42] i havent used it in forever [02:42] KDE4 is pretty nice, albeit resource intensive [02:42] nyRednek, yes you can [02:42] KDE4 is ugly and bloated. [02:43] i like fluxbox, because i'm insecure about my sexuality [02:43] xfce ftw! [02:43] In some cases there are too many and I prefer a small tray [02:43] xfce will replace gnome once gnome 3.0 is out [02:43] lol@kickback [02:44] I think atleast, dont like the way gnome shell works [02:44] kickback: you should be using awesome or wmii then [02:44] They just want to do something because kde came up with kde4 and they are still stuck at the 2.x series [02:44] xmonad if you're really hard up [02:44] i might as well, but i'm too lazy [02:45] Never tried xmonad [02:46] vignesh: unless you want to learn Haskell don't [02:46] awesome doesn't seem all that...what's the word? oh, yeah, awesome [02:46] I've been using Haiku OS for a few days now, and its UI is shitloads better than any WM or DE i've seen in any *nix environment [02:46] you need to in order to use the configuration file [02:46] What is Haskell ? [02:47] it's a functional programming language [02:47] Oh [02:47] if only my internet and sound would work on it... :P [02:47] its the beos style [02:47] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: No route to host [02:47] your internet? [02:47] Lol [02:48] at least you didn't say your Internet. I think the government would take issue with that. [02:48] all your interwebs are belong to me [02:48] kickback: ethernet or wifi? [02:48] MLanden: on my laptop, neither works. wired works on my desktop [02:48] both [02:48] all of them [02:48] broadcom bullshit [02:48] that's it [02:48] the Eloi have won [02:49] r belong 2 kickback [02:49] everyone here probably knows about it, but the movie "Revolution OS" is worth a watch [02:49] in a few generations everyone will be dancing around with flowers in their hair [02:49] to be fair though, they didnt work in linux either, without proprietary drivers [02:49] kickback, since Haiku is also opensource maybe it can be compiled on Linux [02:50] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-28-68.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Never look down on someone unless you're helping them up. [02:50] vignesh: indeed [02:50] A cool project [02:50] Haiku is an operating system vignesh [02:50] many linux drivers have been ported to haiku [02:50] yes, but I mean the wm [02:50] ah [02:51] vignesh: not really, its not work like linux. the wm is integrated in the OS [02:51] like windows [02:51] Hmm [02:51] they wish to have a common and consistent interface [02:52] yskapell (~gkapel@ppp-94-67-104-51.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:52] hello [02:52] heya [02:52] if it works for them :) [02:52] why not [02:53] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [02:53] vignesh: it does indeed work for them. the UI is infact very good and better than anything i've seen on *nix [02:53] I just installed slackware 12.2 and I run xorgconfig. I choose mode 1280x1024 but when I login in KDE i have 1024x768. Any idea about that? [02:54] kickback, I just tried Haiku once, and yes its beautiful [02:54] and I have restart X [02:54] yskapell, does your monitor support 1280x1024 ? [02:55] yes, In the past I had that resolution [02:55] yeah, i went through this page and i orgasm'd several times http://www.haiku-os.org/slideshows/haiku-tour [02:55] the driver is vesa [02:56] yskapell, then check the display configuration is kde system settings [02:57] the display configuration shows 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480 [02:57] in KDE [02:58] kickback, Lovely [02:58] pssh [02:58] kickback, I am going to give it a try again. Does it support install from usb ? [02:58] how "bloated" can software be with 4 core CPUs, 4GB+ of RAM and fast SSDs? [02:58] vignesh: yeah [02:58] kickback, wow, I will do it then [02:59] yskapell, What graphics card do you have ? [02:59] popl, calling KDE bloated is a joke on that kind of hardware :P the "bloat" doesnt slow it down, thus isnt really bloat.. unless youre talking in the context of a single core atom with a small amount of ram :P [03:00] S3 UniChrome Pro [03:00] I always use vesa for that driver [03:00] yskapell: are you using nvidia hardware? [03:01] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-21-126.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:01] yskapell, sidenote.. why would you install slackware 12.2 [03:02] yskapell: under "screen sections" try setting "subsection display" to [appropriate line] to 1280x1024 [03:03] yskapell, can you pastebin your xorg.conf ? [03:03] that would help [03:03] yskapell: and check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if 1280x1024 is not listed as out of range [03:04] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [03:04] yskapell (~gkapel@ppp-94-67-104-51.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:04] actually he can grep for (EE) in that file [03:04] Oh, he left [03:05] vignesh: true...bit a general browse might shed some light on a few other problems [03:05] a pastebin of his xorg.conf is the way to go [03:06] that can be fixed np [03:06] s/bit/but [03:06] Elfo (~no_w@83.240.167.193) joined ##slackware. [03:07] haven't messed with anything with s3 for some time...maybe slack 9 or 10 [03:08] FrankD: Do you understand what the term bloated means? [03:08] wrt software [03:08] pim_ (1000@slacker.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:09] Zosma (jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:09] tuvok302 (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-141.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [03:11] Rat409 (~rat@bb-205-209-95-251.gwi.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat-0.3.1.1 [03:11] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:11] iTunes is a perfect example of bloated software. [03:11] good example [03:11] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-27.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:12] Vuze [03:12] That too. [03:12] Shit, we could spend all day naming bloated software. [03:12] indeed [03:13] true [03:13] Vista [03:13] ... [03:13] lol [03:13] MS claim Vista is not bloated but indeed very "streamlined". [03:13] ... [03:13] I'll leave MS discussions to ##windows [03:13] :-) [03:13] Microsoft can get away with making any claims it damn well pleases [03:14] MS claims... [03:14] streamlined is the new lightweight [03:14] can't believe they claim vista was streamlined [03:14] shonudo: PR. [03:14] remember that MS speak typically means "less bloated than the last version" [03:14] I still have vista on the first partition on here [03:14] All about the money. [03:15] I have to admit I prefer it to XP [03:15] I prefer linux to ms [03:15] but that's because my machine can run it comfortably [03:15] but that's just me [03:15] yeah [03:15] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:15] I only use it grudgingly [03:15] I wouldnt use Vista under gunthreat. Windows 7 I can take. But I prefer Linux or even OS X over MS products. [03:15] and only when I absolutely have to [03:15] shonudo: what the hell do you know about software? you probably use linux or some shit [03:15] man [03:15] my sister's windows 7 install choked on an update and died [03:15] try a real OS like windows ME [03:15] kickback: lol [03:16] screwed up the NTFS partition something fierce too [03:16] Windows ME == Windows Vista in its attempt to "get in on the market" again by releasing a crappy OS. [03:16] Stx: true [03:16] I told her [03:16] "You're getting Ubuntu" [03:17] "I'm not going to be the free tech support guy for windows 7 if it's going to keep doing this" [03:17] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-21-126.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:17] girl refuses to learn her basic computer science [03:17] doesn't know the difference between a megabyte and a gigabyte [03:18] she called it a millibyte [03:18] If only all software developers could tell their bosses that they only work by one philosophy: "The Unix philosophy": "Write programs that do one thing, and do it well". Our IT-world would function so much better! [03:18] so I'm responsible for her stupid stupid data and I hate it [03:19] indubitableness: nobody cares :P [03:19] lol [03:19] hah [03:19] popl, yeah, i understand.. do you understand that bloat level is an opinion? :P [03:19] fair enough [03:19] FrankD: no, it really isn't [03:19] are you english, or retarded? [03:19] I'd say there's some truth to that [03:19] No. [03:20] FrankD: Hey hey, chill now mate. [03:20] like some people consider features they don't really need bloat [03:20] Stx, its a quote from SNL which i happen to find hilarious :P [03:20] Oh :P [03:20] no offense was meant ;) [03:20] My bad. [03:20] Action: Stx offers FrankD his excuse [03:20] but then sometimes there's code that is just poorly written that takes up more memory than it needs to to do a task [03:20] Hence the winking smile [03:20] and that's provably bloat [03:20] no matter what your opinion is [03:21] indubitableness, thats not bloat, thats just bad code [03:21] yeah [03:21] The power of malloc()! [03:21] I dunno I kind of consider it part of bloating [03:21] but then again [03:21] back to the matter of opinions [03:22] memory leaks arent code bloat, although they do lead to bloated resource usage ie "far more than you need" [03:23] hah I did a search on the scollville level of Bhut Jolokia peppers, ghost peppers, and now my browser is advertising to me "Grow Jolokia peppers!" [03:23] Well like say it's not a memory leak [03:23] fAu (~fAu@78.134.6.96) joined ##slackware. [03:23] but just a poorly designed algorithm [03:23] FrankD: You must be trolling. [03:23] like someone just does something less efficiently than they could have [03:24] I would consider that a contribution to bloat [03:24] .w 21 [03:24] popl, *I'M* trolling? so you attempt to insult me because i disagree with you? hmm. [03:24] indubitableness: live on the edge..'specially when it comes to chili and nachos...;*) [03:24] indubitableness, almost nothing is implemented with peak efficiency from all view points [03:24] FrankD: I'm not insulting anyone. You just contradicted yourself. Also, you're the first one to lodge the ad hominem attack. Not me. [03:24] that's definitely true FrankD [03:24] I couldn't disagree with that [03:25] I'm scerd MLanden [03:25] popl, you clearly missed the reference then :P and calling someone a troll because they disagree with you is certainly insulting [03:25] I'm growing some pretty hot ones right now [03:25] yeah, since nothing can be made perfect, lets use that as an excuse to write poor code and play with your balls [03:25] popl, furthermore, i dont feel that i did contradict myself. please clarify your position. [03:25] bird peppers and one called Chinese Five Color Peppers [03:25] I'd like to get some habaneros [03:26] but I'm afraid to eat them [03:26] indubitableness: true...too many will eat a hole in your gut..so I sympathize [03:26] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [03:26] kickback, didn't say that, just that it doesnt matter if something is coded in the most efficient manner possible if it is not time critical, or you have a ton of resources [03:26] Elfo (no_w@83.240.167.193) left ##slackware. [03:26] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-21-126.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:27] ie you optimize functions where most of your execution time is spent [03:27] I eat a lot of jalapenos and chile pequins but they're at an acceptable level of heat for my tolerance [03:27] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:27] deco (deco@unaffiliated/deco) left ##slackware. [03:28] [03:28] so 85% of any program can be coded "inefficiently" and it doesnt matter, its not like youre trying to run time critical stuff on a uC :P [03:28] I don't know about the poor code part but the playing with our balls part doesn't seem so back [03:28] bad [03:28] damn [03:28] Channel flood from indubitableness -- kicking [03:28] back? [03:28] indubitableness kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [03:28] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [03:28] lol [03:28] indubitableness (~indubitab@adsl-99-33-40-8.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:28] gaaay [03:28] and yeah, NOTHING is.. you cant have "the" most efficient algorithm for example in regards to code size, memory usage, AND cpu time [03:29] would you really argue that? all of those are important efficiency metrics, but you have to compromise [03:29] FrankD: I didn't miss the reference. I also didn't miss the winking smile emoticon which implies sarcasm, which in turn implies that I am in fact English or retarded. I resent both implications. :P [03:29] alongside with development time [03:29] FrankD: As for your contradiction, you just said things that lead to bloat don't count as bloat. [03:29] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [03:29] FrankD: do you even know what the discussion was about? [03:29] heh [03:29] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [03:29] popl, i draw a distinction between feature bloat, resource bloat, and resource bloat due to memory leaks - ie truly bad code :P [03:29] indubitableness: I agree with slackboy [03:29] y'all are funny [03:30] of course you cant make it perfect, but that doesnt mean you should stop caring [03:30] indubitableness: Learn to type complete sentences, or at least hit the enter key less. :P [03:30] yeah sorry. I have a problem with that [03:30] kickback, the bloat was in reference to me saying i liked KDE4 a while ago [03:30] I noticed. [03:30] I type as my thoughts come and I don't always complete my thoughts before I hit enter [03:31] kickback, depends on the size of the project, or what your goals are *shrug* but it gets to the point where you have incredible amounts of resouces that it really doesnt matter for a lot of things how inefficient your code is [03:31] no shit [03:32] Sadly enough, I concur with that. [03:32] However I don't believe it's an excuse to play fast and loose with design or programming. [03:32] It's like doing just enough to get by. [03:33] hmm well inefficient doesnt necessarily mean fast and loose.. it can just mean easily expandable and versatile [03:33] Like you're ensuring that there will be bugs for you to fix later. Job security. [03:33] hah [03:33] I hate that mode of thinking. [03:34] "What's with all these goto statements!" "You can't fire ME, jack!" [03:34] ie i wrote a GUI for a uC, i wrote it to be easily expandable and portable.. thus it was "inefficient" compared to me writing something specifically for the uC and handtweaking it in assembler to save some clock cycles.. but speed wasnt critical, and i had more than enough space to include it in the uC project [03:34] am i a terrible person for desiging the GUI like that? i dont think so [03:34] :P [03:34] nice straw man [03:35] vignesh (~vignesh@122.164.12.228) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:35] haha my friend likes using ridiculolus variable/function names when he codes.. it makes my brain hurt when i look at his code :\ [03:35] I don't doubt it. [03:35] strawberry(banana, milkshake, cows); [03:35] hah [03:35] hahaha [03:35] whats_this_for(goatse, tmpvar); [03:35] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:35] Action: FrankD facepalms [03:36] That's hilarious [03:36] yeah, until you work on something with someone that does [03:36] then its not so funny [03:36] well i mean.. at times, yes. but generally, no [03:36] hmmm [03:37] apparently since the first time didnt count I have to say I'm sorry again... so anyone that I might have hurt in some way I'm sorry... [03:38] What'd you do? [03:38] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:38] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-21-126.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:39] indubitableness: oh called some people fags or whatever ... didnt seem to important to apoligize for at the time... I was a different person back when I did it [03:40] screw those fags [03:40] hah [03:40] kidding [03:40] hahaha [03:40] indubitableness: :) [03:40] snL20: dude.... [03:40] is this your first day on the internet? [03:40] lol [03:41] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:41] I think I might do some 2:30 am gardening [03:41] kickback: well of course not.. how could I have done that several years ago and apologize for it now then =P [03:41] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-21-126.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:41] I gotta transfer some plants from the ground to prepare for winter time [03:41] snL20: exactly [03:42] indubitableness: don't get bitten by a spider [03:42] why the hell are you aapologising for something you did years ago, on the internet no less [03:42] Oh man [03:42] or a rabies-infested bat [03:42] there's been some brown recluses out there too [03:42] and fuck you anyway [03:42] keep getting scorpions in the house [03:42] kickback: what do you mean exactly ? [03:43] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) left irc: Quit: http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop. [03:43] nevermind [03:43] the point is that people curse, scream and bitch at people on the internet everyday and its no big deal [03:44] so [03:44] i have quite possibly the most boring job in the world [03:44] kickback: I thought so too... maybe I've just been off my meds for too long :| [03:44] indubitableness: what 'bout fire ants? [03:45] Oh they're not as bad [03:45] they keep hanging out around my grapes [03:45] I WANT SOMETHING TO DO [03:45] and biting my feet [03:45] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.25.204) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:45] thanks a lot IBM, give me a bunch of mainframes to babysit [03:45] FrankD: learn assembly !? [03:45] but we got bugs that can really fuck you up out there [03:45] :) [03:45] .. that are all currently behaving themselves [03:46] snL20, as if thats hard [03:46] .. unless you want me to learn x86, in which case.. no thanks. looks scary. :P [03:46] FrankD: write an exploit that works with ASLR enabled =) [03:47] FrankD: x86 is scary ? [03:47] :) [03:47] indubitableness: yeah..can be nuisance..but good to hear they're not too bad [03:47] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-127-17-34.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Be excellent to each other. [03:47] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.23.61) joined ##slackware. [03:47] snL20, yeah, x86 looks scary. [03:48] I keep poisoning the ants [03:48] i try to stick to nice clean uCs if i have to venture outside of C :P [03:48] I always go out there barefoot, just tempting fate [03:48] FrankD: fap to ASCII art [03:48] but tonight I'ma wear shoes 'cause I need to dig [03:49] and by art, i mean porn [03:49] hah [03:49] kickback, been there, done that (within the last 2 minutes) [03:49] FrankD: like xor eax, eax mov al, 0x2 int 0x80 ? [03:51] grazymax (~grazymax@host142-157-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:51] why would you xor a register with itself [03:51] FrankD: crack into the main system and try to find your boss' hidden porn collection [03:51] FrankD: zero it [03:51] hah, ahhh [03:52] bitlord (~bitlord@dynamic-213-198-231-127.adsl.eunet.rs) joined ##slackware. [03:52] bitlord (~bitlord@dynamic-213-198-231-127.adsl.eunet.rs) left irc: Changing host [03:52] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [03:52] and blackmail him [03:53] now [03:53] mail it to his children and wife in an email titled "fun for the family" [03:53] why would you xor eax, eax instead of mov eax,0 [03:53] hahaha [03:53] FrankD: well mainly cause exploits dont work with null bytes [03:54] HAH [03:54] Gimped (~gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:54] Jesus! [03:54] snL20, MMMM! [03:55] and yes, x86 is scary [03:55] haha [03:55] FrankD: hehe :) [03:56] i think i need to go to college [03:56] FrankD: if you are just doing regular asm programming though you can mov eax,0 [03:56] somehow i dont think i want to be stuck babysitting mainframes or plugging 400 pci-e/pci-x cards when they need it :P [03:57] "OH NO IT FAILED, BETTER GO SWAP A CARD" fml [03:57] Action: FrankD shoots self [04:03] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:03] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-186.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[05:39] trf (1000@shiva.norgrind.net) joined ##slackware. [05:40] Nick change: sahko -> Guest54367 [05:40] Nick change: thumbs -> Guest66242 [05:41] grebur (~grebur@79.114.227.14) joined ##slackware. [05:42] Nick change: spook_ -> spook [05:43] Hi ! Can everyone tell me why my bittorrent don't begin the download then I add torrent's in it? ....what must change, permission or other..? [05:44] grebur, lookup your BT client logs [05:44] ok's [05:45] how can i run a program with startup notification in kde? [05:45] Operation.Endgame.2010.DVDRip.XviD-LUSi" : Problem connecting to tracker - [05:45] how it's actually done when running app from kde menu? [05:45] erk__ (~MrEd@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:45] no I have install slackware with XFCE window manager... [05:45] Guest54367 (~grbzks@ppp089210157073.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:45] erk__ (~MrEd@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ) joined ##slackware. [05:45] there's a checkbox in menueditor, to run app with bouncer [05:45] what that checkbox really does? [05:46] if i run an app from konsole for example, there's no bouncing cursor [05:46] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [05:46] it does it, if app exists in menu [05:46] and not if i run it manually [05:47] busycursor is what it's called [05:47] I run from console or from an icon (I create a luncher...) [05:47] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-166-217.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:47] Action: phrag could do with a luncher... starving [05:47] yes [05:47] I can [05:48] I create a luncher...download an icon from inetrnet...and added in create luncher menu... [05:48] it's running...but don't starting... [05:49] I think it's not an netfiltering probleme? [05:49] I don't must anithing add with iptables commands? [05:50] every error created in logs in connection refused.. 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[07:15] rhisa: there is no 'create' date [07:15] most linux filesystems do not store such metadata [07:15] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [07:15] What is this then, called "modified"? [07:16] rhisa: it's modify timestamp. if it was 'create', it would be called 'create' [07:16] rhisa: man touch [07:16] Oh. [07:16] Oh wow. [07:17] Thanks, looks useful. I can get it to be modified 5 years ago then. [07:17] Some of these files I have are 2002, which is awesome. [07:17] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [07:17] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [07:19] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [07:19] i'm sure it makes sense to you... [07:23] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7AD15.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:26] Hm in this photo I had a gun. :| Where did I get that? [07:28] SamrtOne (~SmartOne@112.135.24.198) joined ##slackware. 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[08:16] i'm building right now [08:16] don't know if there is an problem with intel [08:16] i had to rebuild because of bad working driver.... but that was slackware 13 [08:17] hm ok [08:17] i'll see XD [08:17] otherwise i am avoiding to rebuild so i get updates by slackpkg [08:17] just wanted to see if my ati graphics card works better [08:18] because now i've stripes in games [08:18] like urban terror [08:18] Action: mrcarrot hates ati [08:18] with open source drivers it could be nice [08:18] jupenz (~iMac@222.127.13.226) left irc: Quit: quit [08:18] i have never had as many problems as with ati [08:18] but that intel stuff would be even nicer [08:19] many times the problems with ati disappears by putting the computer once to sleep [08:19] artv61 (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:19] all kind of strange work around [08:19] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware ("take care..."). 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[09:13] afternoon =) [09:16] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:16] no one then :[ [09:16] i've never used it, but it is used [09:17] Delahunt (~robert@fd126-196.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [09:17] we use sendmail & exim [09:17] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-11-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:18] Hm. [09:18] I'm such a knobhead, since when was idle included in python's install for linux [09:18] Yeah we're gonna learn sendmail next chapter or three. [09:18] I thought it was only included for the win version [09:20] matt0 (~matt0@60-241-58-23.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Quit: IRC FOREVER [09:21] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-21-126.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [09:21] otoha_ (52f2fcf1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.242.252.241) joined ##slackware. [09:22] hello [09:22] =) [09:22] why slackware does not have a wiki to documentation [09:22] ? [09:22] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@97-127-222-25.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:23] it's not very good for beginners [09:23] http://slackwiki.org/Main_Page [09:23] otoha_: it's great for beginners, you'll learn a lot from it [09:23] m3tti` (~user@p57B7AD15.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:23] ok thanks [09:24] i would like to install Slack [09:24] otoha_: google slackbook [09:27] ok [09:27] ait a minute i look it [09:27] but I'm not lucky slackbook doesn't exist in french :( [09:28] otoha_: start a translation project! [09:28] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-216.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:28] good opportunity to improve your english [09:28] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.8.177.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:28] Also good opportunity to get famous by making a French version. [09:28] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.8.177.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:29] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.8.177.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:29] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.8.177.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:29] lol [09:29] yes [09:29] i think about it [09:30] vite vite [09:31] bjx (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:31] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-qncmooilhbfpusza) joined ##slackware. [09:32] epapi (~epapi@outgoing1.jumpy.it) joined ##slackware. [09:33] hi all. what file pkgtool modifies when i enable/disable a boot service? [09:33] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:33] chmod +x/-x /etc/rc.d/rc.somefile [09:33] it doesn't modify any file, it makes it +x or -x with chmod [09:33] ok so it simply adds root execution permission? [09:34] yes [09:34] (or for everybody, I'm not sure) [09:34] i've seen that redhat has the 'chkconfig' tool to manage and define service at boot. is a similar tool available for slackware? [09:35] yup: chmod :P [09:35] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [09:35] more seriously, the way it's done in slackware and in redhat or debian have nothing in common [09:35] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware. [09:35] and I'd say that slackware doesn't need such a tool [09:36] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:37] chkconfig has the '--add' option to define a new services at boot. [09:39] put the script in /etc/rc.d, then add 'if [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.yourscript ]; then /etc/rc.d/rc.yourscript start; fi' to /etc/rc.d/rc.local [09:39] it will be executed at boot (after the regular boot procedure), and you have /etc/rc.d/rc.local_shutdown for shutdown iirc [09:40] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:40] ok! [09:40] thx [09:44] dios_mio (net@88.241.140.142) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:44] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:47] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:49] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:55] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [09:56] jg71: oui? [09:56] tu utilise slack [09:56] comment tu t'est debrouillé [09:56] ? [09:57] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [10:02] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [10:02] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Client Quit [10:06] the slackbook is full of pretty pictures, it should be quite easy to follow [10:07] epapi (~epapi@outgoing1.jumpy.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:07] oh, and I don't mind contributing to a french translation of the slakbook v3 [10:07] (by the time it's out, software translation should be perfect though :P ) [10:10] Guest89781 (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [10:11] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.44.82) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:13] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:14] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [10:14] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:16] m3tti` (~user@p57B7AD15.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:17] otoha_: oui mais my french est un peu rouillé [10:17] feinom (feinom@feinom.forcebox.org) joined ##slackware. [10:17] ok [10:18] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7AD15.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:20] Action: adrien pours rust remover on jg71 [10:22] gniks (~sking@nat-jsq-adm.advance.net) joined ##slackware. [10:22] gniks (~sking@nat-jsq-adm.advance.net) left irc: Changing host [10:22] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [10:23] Action: jg71 feels better now, less malade [10:24] Arfon, you around? I've managed to get signal strength off of the Novatel, while it's running. [10:26] nachox: sorry i missed you yesterday mate, had to dash off [10:27] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-69-254.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [10:27] no problem mate [10:27] nachox: what i was getting at, is that true unlimited bandwidth is not cheap in UK [10:28] kickback (~kick@122.163.206.38) joined ##slackware. [10:28] i'm guessing its cheaper here [10:28] i'll keep looking then [10:28] kickback (~kick@122.163.206.38) left irc: Client Quit [10:29] it depends what your serving, what you class as a lot of traffic [10:29] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [10:29] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:29] like 1GB file, served to 100 people would be a lot different to few people pulling smaller files [10:30] so i imagine it would be memory related too.. like 100 apache children would rack up the memory [10:30] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:30] definately be better in EU or states imho [10:30] a mirror for a web page with an hg respository with about 500mb of sourcecode [10:30] phrag: im actually looking for some root server in the uk, 2tb 100mbit or 10mbit flat. any pointers? :) [10:31] jg71: well i'm with linode, and can't fault their service.. they have a UK datacenter in London [10:31] and they have slack images ready to roll =) [10:32] ah vps? [10:32] yeah [10:34] ashe (~ashe@125.166.186.91) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:34] Appetite (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [10:34] Nick change: Appetite -> Guest77406 [10:36] or you guys can pay me some money and i'll get a fiber pipe to my apartment and host some boxes in my kitchen =P [10:37] but thats my plan!!11! ;) [10:37] hehe [10:37] alkos333 (1000@c-24-12-211-7.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:37] basically i just need the traffic. an atom could handle the loads, i just need a vpn exit somewhere in the uk. guess ill have a look around. [10:38] i was looking at some vpn services recently actually [10:39] ashe (~ashe@125.166.176.80) joined ##slackware. [10:42] jg71: how much money? [10:45] adrien: about 70 gbp [10:45] Raggs (~X@99-29-0-126.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [10:46] hi all, what group do i need to add a user to so that they can open a flashdrive? [10:47] found 2.4 tb for 75 gbp with some hassle, but would fit my needs. [10:47] 2.4? [10:47] jg71: month or year? [10:47] month [10:47] oh [10:48] Raggs, plugdev (i think...) [10:48] you can find entry-level dedicated I think [10:48] jaminja (~jaminja@74.81.170.4) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:50] pupit (~p@109-93-232-197.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:50] thats just the "specs fit the needs" stage. ill check about quality of service, qualified tech support later. (somehow, a combo of all that in "ok-ish"-mode is hard to find) [10:52] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [10:52] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:53] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.44.82) joined ##slackware. [10:53] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:54] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@cpc3-leic3-0-0-cust792.8-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:55] told jall death controlls jall [10:55] i had a dream where the geek in a datacenter wouldn't let me meet my friend inside so i can see his cabinet [10:56] i had gone through so much for the cockface to deny me [10:56] i threatened to kick his ass outside and they sent a little security guard after me [10:56] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [10:56] adrien [10:56] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-31-98.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:57] niiice. 39 eur per some amd 2.7 ghz 2tb 100mbit / mo OR 10mbit flat, dedicated, @ dedi64.de ... but just one 1 ip [10:57] i heard they had gigabit in south korea or something [10:57] and it was $19/month [10:57] they have south koreans there too. not what im looking for jeev ;) [10:59] jeev: you watched Matrix too much [10:59] M3no1ti0s (M3no1ti0s@cpc3-leic3-0-0-cust792.8-1.cable.virginmedia.com) left ##slackware. [10:59] matrix was ok [10:59] i could've farted out a better script [10:59] the matrix :D [11:00] jeev: ok you do that :P [11:00] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:00] just dont get caught again, jeev [11:01] adrien, you see that moron john bolton say israel has 8 days to attack iran? lol. [11:01] im waiting to wake up to news saying tehran has been nuked [11:01] jhw (~jhw@p548D699B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:01] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-124-80.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:02] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:02] well he's tried everything else to get them to fight [11:02] this is his last ditch effort [11:02] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-31-98.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:02] i know israel wants it but i dont think they're that stupid [11:03] they want but they cant. [11:03] bolton only has credibility in the teaparty [11:04] SANTA ANA -- An Orange County man was arrested Tuesday morning, accused of ejaculating into his female co-worker's water bottle on two separate occasions. [11:04] next he'll try to trot out powell with a vial of yellow cake [11:04] what an idiot [11:05] i met colon powell [11:05] two years ago [11:05] and you lived thru it. [11:05] he blew his credibility [11:05] i wanted to sit him down and ask him to admit everything [11:05] you had a sitdown with a colon? [11:05] wikth YOUR colon [11:05] < jeev> i met colon powell [11:05] i met him when he was still chairman of the joint chiefs and he said everywhere i go smells like new carpet and fresh paint [11:06] Skywise, halliburton was going there before, cleaning it up and making it look presentable [11:06] aren't olfactory hallucinations a symptom of a brain tumour? [11:06] and in this one place, there was fresh paint and carpet only along the path of his tour [11:06] Action: alisonken1home points to /topic and ##offtopic [11:06] revel0___ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [11:07] ken used to be rad [11:07] only when it's slow and midnight [11:07] its slow [11:07] it's midnight somewhere in the world [11:07] there ya go [11:07] lol [11:07] Common misconception. Olfactory hallucinations are actually a symptom of caffeine withdrawal. [11:07] You need more coffee. [11:08] starbucks coffee sucks [11:08] ah XD [11:08] Of course, I only give this advice because there is no such thing as malpractice on IRC. [11:08] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [11:09] slack_onphone (~user@m395636d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [11:09] otoha_ (52f2fcf1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.242.252.241) left irc: Quit: Page closed [11:09] if there was, it would of been closed along time ago [11:11] of course [11:11] This sucks... I've got this library compiled, along with a test executable I need... but it prints out a bunch of extraneous shit. And I can't figure out what to comment out to get rid of it. [11:11] hello folks. I need some help or advice. If i have a vpn and I'd like to use its connction to allow my homecomputer to browse the web at home with firefox, could I do that? I can ssh into my vpn, but I dont know how to set up the port forward. so if I was sitting at home on my desktop in firefox, i could just browse the web on it eventhough i dont have internet at home. is port forward set up with -L or -R? im sorry if im a little confused her [11:11] is there a debug level? [11:12] If you have no internet at home... how will you browse the web? [11:13] Redb3ard: i have internet but port 80 is blocked. so i can only use it for like ssh [11:13] port 22 works fine [11:13] slack_onphone: use ssh as proxy ... ssh -D 1080 your@server.com and point ff to use the socks proxy at localhost:1080 [11:13] jg71: ah, so its -D [11:13] man, that must be some discount internet package [11:13] Is port 443 blocked as well? [11:13] great, ill try that out and thanks! this is awesome and looks very promising [11:15] slack_onphone: also, about:config in ff and toggle network.proxy.socks_remote_dns;true [11:15] it's false per default i guess [11:16] mattallmill (~mattallmi@69.71.126.145) joined ##slackware. [11:16] jg71: ok, I just did ssh -D user@server.com at home [11:17] i think its enabled when you enable the socks proxy in the browser [11:17] josemanuel (~josemanue@35.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [11:17] doesn't work on mine [11:17] you need the port [11:17] yes. doesnt work here either [11:17] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [11:17] also, sshd_config must have forwards, let me check [11:17] can the port be any port? [11:18] slack_onphone (~user@m395636d0.tmodns.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:18] it's the local one, so i guess yes [11:18] Delahunt (~robert@fd126-196.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:18] i think we confused here [11:18] slack_onphone (~user@m495636d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [11:18] we're mixing tunneling and proxying [11:18] hm. im confused now lol [11:18] if he's gonna tunnel via his vpn then he doesn't need to proxy [11:18] i have AllowTcpForwarding yes [11:19] GatewayPorts yes [11:19] in the sshd_config [11:19] so i need to set that on my server host? or my local pc's sshd config? [11:19] but i know what you mean by wanting to have yout dns requests tunneled too [11:19] the server slackmagic [11:20] just use openvpn and be happy. :-) [11:20] jaminja_ (~jaminja@dyn-62-56-70-104.dslaccess.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:20] err slack_onphone [11:20] darn tab failpletion [11:20] jg71: wrong person, I just tried it out, that's all. Never fiddled with my vpn that much. [11:20] hehe [11:20] so you basically want your vpn to be your default gateway [11:20] Skywise: thats correct [11:21] and is your desktop windows or slack? [11:22] hm. so what are my option on this again? like i said at home they blocked port 80, but i can ssh into anything. on my phone my internet and screensize is somewhat limited, so i cant really google for all that info, eventhough i wish i could. i hate to ask for silly stuff like that i could research myself. so thanks in avance to the both of y'all for the help btw. ssh tunnel or openvpn? [11:22] Skywise: slackware [11:24] openvpn seems to be the best choice i think [11:24] ssh tunnel is good for a port or range of ports, openvpn is more flexible [11:25] the way i thought it worked was, to ssh into my vpn, open up like port 8080 for tunneling, on my ff at home point to localhost:8080 and be able to use the web that way. im confused though now [11:25] revel0___ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:26] slack_onphone: you got slack on your phone [11:26] you want the vpn at home to carry all the traffic bound for the net [11:27] ip route default via [vpn ip] ? [11:27] yeah, think about when you look up a host and want to go to http://www.google.com/ [11:27] route del default gw ; route add default gw [11:27] phrag: hehe, i just wantwd to pick a ame that shows im a slackuser but on the phone right now. i wish i had slackware running on this little toy though [11:27] new should overwrite the old [11:27] nope [11:27] hehe [11:27] old route still exists and could bite you for dns f.e. [11:28] my bad, yeh it adds t the routing table, not replace [11:28] jg71++ [11:28] you could always use metrics [11:29] did i also add a rather newbie slackuser? rofl. this stuff you guys just said just went through me like the wind...im still confused haha [11:29] Skywise: this openvpn..is that an app? [11:29] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [11:29] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:29] slack_onphone: yes [11:29] it's in stock slack these days [11:30] Roin (~florian@p5B2BBADB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:30] its more like a tool to manage what you need to [11:30] jg71: ok. i guess i should edit the server's ssh config to the things u mentioned earlier and restart sshd there or should i not even bother? [11:31] go with sshd_config and restart. it's the easiest way i for you i guess [11:31] -i [11:31] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-87.viapori.fi) joined ##slackware. [11:33] jg71: so allowtcpforwarding yes and gatewayports yes ( i didnt bother typing with caps - easier on phone) [11:33] Skywise: slackware at home [11:33] squid + ssh port forward works nice :) [11:36] Raggs (~X@99-29-0-126.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:36] jg71: changed sshd config on server, restarted sshd, connected at home via ssh -D 1080 user@server.com, changed setting in ff's about:config at home to true, pointed proxy manual to localhost:1080 and it doesnt give me an error when trying out a site, just nothing displays for me. white blank pages on anythin i try on ff [11:37] slack_onphone: [11:37] ssh -N -L2001:localhost:80 somemachine [11:37] would forward local port 2001 to 80 on somemachine [11:37] phrag: ah ok..lemme try that then [11:37] indubitableness (~indubitab@adsl-99-33-40-8.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:37] so you could http://localhost:2001 and that would forward you to http://somesite:80 [11:38] EthanG (ethan@sourcemage/guru/eekee) left ##slackware. [11:38] and the traffic would be through encrypted [11:40] phrag: that means i could not go on any website i would want to but rather just the site setup on somemachine correct? when i tried that my desktop at home would say channel 2: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused [11:40] phrag: or put localhost:2001 in proxy servers right ? [11:41] phrag: basically i want to be able to browse the web at home using the vpns port 80 connection or any connection actually as long as i can get to use it [11:41] slack_onphone: run squid on somemachine [11:42] slack_onphone: then forward to connect to the proxy(squid) [11:44] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [11:44] snL20: ok so basically set up a proxy and just simply use that to browse the web with at home correct? [11:45] slack_onphone: set up squid on the server you have ssh access too [11:46] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [11:46] slack_onphone: then ssh -N -L2001:localhost:3128 server and set your webbrowser to use localhost:2001 as a proxy [11:46] if your not bothered about encryption, a simple proxy like squid would do the trick [11:46] and be easier to setup [11:46] snL20: yep. will i have to play with configs? or is it pretty much set up for that kind of purpose out of the box? [11:46] slack_onphone: you will have to configure squid [11:47] slack_onphone (~user@m495636d0.tmodns.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:47] slack_onphone (~user@m395636d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [11:47] phrag: snL20 Skywise jg71 thank you guys for your time here dealing with the newbie. i do appreciate it. i think ill be studying squid for a moment then [11:48] http://www.deckle.co.za/squid-users-guide/Installing_Squid [11:48] that's not a bad link to start [11:49] (From a quick google) [11:49] I am friggen bored [11:49] slack_onphone: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/network/squid/ <-- slack pkg [11:50] slack_onphone: more than welcome =) [11:52] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [11:53] Boy, do I hate Godaddy's web pages. [11:53] They are not CLI friendly at all [11:53] Action: adrien hands arfon three gophers [11:53] Arfon... I have something for you to do. [11:53] Can I private message with instructions? [11:54] Great, MORE gophers... :P [11:54] Please do Redb3ard [11:56] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:57] Roin_ (~florian@p5B2BB9DA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:08] M3no1ti0s (M3no1ti0s@cpc3-leic3-0-0-cust792.8-1.cable.virginmedia.com) left ##slackware. [12:09] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.224.153.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [12:14] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [12:14] Have I lost connection or is no one chatting? [12:15] both [12:16] :( [12:16] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) joined ##slackware. [12:17] Zosma (jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:18] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:19] a docx just crashed koffice though =/ [12:20] slack_onphone (~user@m395636d0.tmodns.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:20] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:22] slackmagic (1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:22] koffice can open docx? [12:22] it can? [12:22] yup [12:22] not only that. [12:22] well, don't take version 0.1 [12:22] mattallmill (~mattallmi@69.71.126.145) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:22] I use OOo anyway [12:22] me too [12:22] but support for docx is uneven between softwares [12:22] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [12:22] I think koffice has one of the best supports however [12:23] same, but for some reason my mime type opened it in koffice [12:23] fell right over though =P [12:23] phrag: for me the latest koffice releases are next to unusable. [12:24] Incredibly buggy, although they're working hard to fix things. [12:24] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [12:24] Well did they already implement spell checking? [12:24] Ha no clue. [12:24] never liked it much [12:24] Roin: I rather have a stable piece of software than a buggy one with spell checking. [12:24] I think Koffice is the only KDE app which doesnt support spell checking ._. [12:24] mmm [12:25] spell checking ... who uses that? [12:25] They all use the aspell books I think, so even Kwrite has spell checking... correct me if I'm wrong [12:25] <-- [12:25] Action: jg71 strikes Roin off his list [12:25] my spelling is the worst someone could imagine ._. [12:25] :( [12:26] doesnt matter. yar off! [12:26] ;) [12:26] i imagine worse =P [12:26] ^^' [12:26] @.@ [12:26] Anyone here play morrowind in wine per chance? [12:26] specifically with the official plugins [12:26] check winedb [12:27] Oh I have been [12:27] they usually have information about that [12:27] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:27] I have it running [12:27] but one of the plugins doesn't work [12:27] and a second one might not [12:27] Something to do with case sensitivity [12:29] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [12:29] ship (~rpm@81.184.56.58.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [12:30] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [12:30] who do you know that's the reason? [12:30] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [12:31] yesyes (~yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) joined ##slackware. [12:31] I don't. I'm just guessing based on something some guy told me a while back. Can't be certain at all [12:31] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [12:31] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [12:32] Just a shot in the dark asking here though, a just in case someone knows of a question really [12:32] indubitably [12:32] best is really to report it on winedb [12:33] yeah [12:33] I need to do a little more testing [12:33] it might be a different mod interfering with it [12:34] gotta do a clean, official plugins only, install [12:35] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:36] Sikis (~sikis@97.107.142.142) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:38] kingbeowulf (~kingbeowu@c-71-59-193-120.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:40] This is interesting. [12:40] Does anyone know about this? [12:40] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_%28information_technology%29 [12:41] I'm still waiting for anything that will allow observing anything without influencing it :P [12:41] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [12:42] That might be impossible. [12:43] NO FAIR! You changed the outcome by measuring it! [12:43] {Futurama?] [12:44] miss_riss: it is ;-) [12:44] I mean: it is impossible, in absolutely every domain [12:46] Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. Ever hear of Schroedinger's cat? [12:47] Alright yeah. That had to be because of some other mod interfering 'cause everything works now [12:47] Heisenberg gets pulled over by a cop who says you were speeding. He replies where am i? [12:47] hah! [12:47] lol [12:47] cant have both velocity AND position [12:48] yes thats the joke. well done. [12:48] 3 cups of coffee and I am starting to wskr up [12:48] er...wake [12:51] I don't understand that part. Can't have velocity adn position? You mean you can't predict? [12:51] Oh I see. [12:52] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.224.153.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:53] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:53] how does one change the console resolution when using nouveau? [12:54] marra (marra@fly.srk.fer.hr) joined ##slackware. [12:55] miss_riss, actually the article you quoted is a bit different. but some of us seem to be physics/chemistry geeks so couldn't resist [12:55] I'm afraid of physics classes. [12:55] :( [12:56] Ah. I was a chemistry major and took enough classes for almost a minor in both physics and comp sci. but that was 30 yrs ago [12:57] Did you get your Master's? [12:57] Or PhD? [12:58] no just the BS. did 6 yrs grad school for PhD in physical chemistry but never finished [12:59] The sperm new both the velocity AND position of the egg cell [12:59] kingbeowulf, Why didn't you finishi t? [12:59] see above. [12:59] :) [12:59] He just did. [13:00] that's why biologists have problems understanding quantum physics [13:00] kids will do that to you [13:00] its in my retirement plan [13:00] not the kids but grad scholl [13:01] Bad plan [13:01] They're gonna be roke when you are [13:01] roke=broke [13:01] OH! :) [13:01] That's not agood plan either, that's negative cash flow [13:02] Social Security + 401K + stipend might just make it for a 1 room hovel and bus fare [13:02] You'll be an alpo-eating masters holding oldfart [13:02] You mean 401K + stiped? [13:03] I was richest when in grad school $10K per yr + what I made tutoring biologists [13:03] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-25-7-121.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:03] Oh my, Lunch time! later [13:03] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:03] that right SS is gone [13:04] revel0___ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [13:04] revel0___ (~revel0@212.88.117.162) left irc: Client Quit [13:08] back to comp sci and slack. anyone read about the kernel patch re: X exploit to elevated root priviledges? [13:10] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:13] Oh. [13:13] So you meant knew, not new. [13:14] lol. i cant type worth spit [13:14] shake hands with Roin, kingbeowulf ;) [13:15] anyway... to complete the sstory. there were birth complications that lead to c-section. so i had to get a real job quick. [13:16] did you know pregnancy is a "preexisting condition" so back then really had to fight for coverage [13:17] Buffola NY was cold ad I needed a bed warmer. who new where that would lead? [13:17] oh wiat yeah...those health classes i napped during [13:18] Worked out ok for me. hopefully so for Roin! [13:18] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [13:18] kickback (~kickback@122.163.206.38) joined ##slackware. [13:22] ._. [13:22] ship (rpm@81.184.56.58.dyn.user.ono.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:23] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:24] aryr100 (~aryr100@64.132.183.186) joined ##slackware. [13:25] Roin, remember u can always use them for spare parts! and I hear the black market for organs in Asia is booming! [13:25] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:25] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) joined ##slackware. [13:25] After I broke my collar bone I threatened my oldest that I would take his. just about the right size an nice and new [13:26] kingbeowulf: The only thing I wonder about is: what are you trying to tell me? [13:27] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:27] Roin, join my church: pragmatic nihilistic optimism [13:27] it all works out then you die [13:28] but seriously folks... [13:28] yarvin (~yarvin@155-197-58-66.gci.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:28] kingbeowulf: keep things on topic please. [13:28] my oldest is just about 20 yrs old, wife is great, so what the heck why whine over woulda coulda beens [13:29] spook, hey I asked a kernel X exploit query and no one responded [13:29] cen___1 (~cen@pool-96-246-7-125.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:30] kingbeowulf: yes but that is no excuse. [13:32] spook, ok. sure. and here I thought Australians had a sense of humor [13:32] LostMyNick (~xterm@just.use.xterm.co.cc) joined ##slackware. [13:32] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:33] kingbeowulf: i am asking you to keep things on-topic before someone not as nice comes along and tells you to keep things on-topic [13:34] LostMyNick (~xterm@just.use.xterm.co.cc) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:36] kingbeowulf, we haven't heard yet what is happening - whether there is a patch or not. best to just keep an eye on security mailing list perhaps. [13:38] dive. just wondering if it was scare mongering or really feasible. I run 3 slack and 2 Ubuntu boxes. The kernel patch was already commited and there was a comment by Linus [13:39] yeah I know Linus commited a patch (and some more afterwards apparently) but nothing has been said to us by those up above yet [13:39] kingbeowulf: a) you need local users b) you need X c) you need local users able to know how to apply an exploit. [13:39] ie slack devs [13:40] indeed [13:40] So a remotely loaded ap , say browser plugin, can't use teyh exploit? [13:40] if you are scared of these matters, check full disclosure mailinglist. zeros tend to be mentioned there first, or worse. [13:40] actually you just need to download and run an app (maybe any file?) and do it in X [13:41] with the exploit code included [13:41] kingbeowulf: if it's an exploit for the browser resulting in a shell, then foo. [13:41] not sure about documents though - as in the latest pdf problems [13:41] pdf aint a document format, it's a curse ;) [13:41] there was mention of acrobat (I dont use it) and a malformed pdf [13:42] yeah that's been done before though [13:42] dont worry about my system but my youger son downloads who nows what [13:42] LostMyNick (darkhack@just.use.xterm.co.cc) joined ##slackware. [13:42] tell him ... if hes not careful, his porn will disappear. [13:43] fortunev (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.24.212.253) joined ##slackware. [13:43] cen___1 (cen@pool-96-246-7-125.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [13:43] tell him not to download who knows what until it's fixed [13:43] I was trying to get mmy technical information f how the exploit works via X to get root [13:43] dive...ever talk to a 17 yrs old hormonal teen? [13:43] is userlocal.com still up and running? Keep seeing it mentioned, but the site seems down. [13:44] dive only talks to hormonal teens in their late twens ;) [13:44] Action: jg71 ducks [13:44] lol [13:44] something to do with memory being allocated to graphics overlapping normal mem [13:44] Akuma (~Akuma@modemcable099.110-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:44] uhuh [13:45] slck-o (~cris@189.26.19.245.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:45] the tech grounds for the exploit are embarrassing. whoever was the brainchild of kernel 2.6 mem foo slipped [13:46] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.8.177.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:46] you mean that humans do error? [13:46] I just got a check in the mail for $1,664.00 [13:46] nah :P [13:46] w00t [13:46] kingbeowulf, if your hormonal son downloads something and it hoses his system it might teach him something [13:46] well, we've all been using 2.6.x for a while.... [13:47] Dive, teach? He walks on water and is bullet proof. [13:47] indubitableness: Heyyy old buddy... ;) [13:47] heh [13:47] just tell him not to open that xmasparty!!.exe email attachment [13:47] Pell grant [13:47] it's for school supplies [13:48] Lucky [13:48] They won't give me Pell Grant. [13:48] So I have to pay every cent of fucking college. [13:48] earn "too much" huh? [13:48] I stopped working about a year before I needed it [13:48] specifically so I'd be poor enough [13:48] I'm fortunate enough to be livin' at mah momma's house so I could afford to do it that way [13:48] dive...I am punishing him witha Win7 laptop. can't wait until he come to me with "it dont work" and I say "So?" [13:49] adrien: it's a case that oughta be tought of in design stage. i mean, in school we learn about functions and derivations, and to always think about what happens at "borders" (limes, ...) but anyway, it's gonna be fixed and thats the end of it. [13:50] *thought of [13:50] Not really. as systems get more complex more issues will pop up [13:50] jg71: you only do that after you've been yelled at at least half a dozen times by your teacher ;-) [13:50] jg71: not fixed: worked around [13:51] adrien: i hear you. NOT. ;) [13:51] we all use F/OSS here but how many of use actually sift through the code? [13:51] kingbeowulf: gnupg code is really good for bdsm folks. [13:51] not only code but logic too [13:51] jg71: really? got a link? =) [13:51] and maintainer reasoning ;) [13:52] I only sift with my tinfoil hat on [13:52] last thing I programmed was Z80 and 8080. so I look at code know its just Greek [13:52] | t :: q -> list_split (t :: accu) (n-1) q [13:52] adrien: talked to a guy doing code audits.... [13:52] that's not greek :P (that's a line I currently have under my eyes ;-) ) [13:52] ocaml? [13:52] greek eyelids? omg. [13:53] jg71: might be a deal between programmers and auditers: the formers giving work to the latters ;-) [13:53] dive: yup [13:53] adrien: i really doubt that in that particular case. patches and hints were offered, all declined. [13:53] oh, a tv documentary about girls in swimsuits around the world :p [13:54] gnupg documentation really has a reputation of sucking. [13:54] jg71: openssl is pretty bad too iirc [13:54] ok, nuff gnupg bashing .... for today. [13:54] heh [13:54] jg71: just kidding of course ;-) [13:54] what was that work measuring system called? [13:54] adrien: http://twitter.com/ioerror/status/21200682408 [13:54] looked at lines of code per day.. [13:54] no you are not, adrien ;) [13:55] ljubak (~ljubak@cable-94-189-144-226.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [13:55] jg71: yeah, wasn't kidding about openssl ;-) [13:55] yarvin (~yarvin@155-197-58-66.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [14:01] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:02] jg71: http://corte.si//posts/code/reading-code.html [14:02] unfortunately, the original article has been put down (moved?) [14:03] hah, let me find it [14:03] http://www.peereboom.us/assl/assl/html/openssl.html <- adrien [14:03] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [14:03] http://opensource.apple.com/source/procmail/procmail-1.2/procmail/src/procmail.c looks even worse ;-) [14:04] yup, that one =) [14:04] yes, ive seen procmail eat mails occasionally. 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[14:31] Mowah (~tree@c-1880e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:32] if i replace my root partition with slackware32, will my encrypted+64bit home work with the 32bit current? [14:32] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:32] i need to preserve all program settings [14:32] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-13-230.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:32] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-13-230.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Changing host [14:32] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [14:32] anyone tried this? [14:33] jhw (~jhw@p548D699B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:36] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [14:38] kimjeng (~mike@196.201.217.233) joined ##slackware. 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[14:45] freelibrary: X -configure [14:45] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [14:45] freelibrary: that will generate xorg.conf.new in your home directory [14:45] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:45] move it then to /etc/X11 [14:46] what i wonder is how does it work now without an xorg.conf? [14:46] thanks for the advice though [14:47] freelibrary (~notRoot@p548F5389.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:48] how did freelibrary's gui work without a xorg.conf? [14:48] xorg 1.7+ works /most of the time/ withour config :) [14:49] aryr100 (~aryr100@64.132.183.186) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:49] jhw (~jhw@p548D699B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:49] aryr100 (~aryr100@64.132.183.186) joined ##slackware. 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[15:07] gawdsdammit, 2.6.35 kernel borked my sound :( [15:10] I'm going back to 2.6.31. [15:10] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:10] 00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2), anyone got this? [15:12] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [15:13] aryr100 (~aryr100@64.132.183.186) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:14] another noob question! - when I boot to runlevel 4, and hit ctrl-alt-F1..6, I get a blank screen instead of a login prompt. Any idea why? [15:15] Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1) seems to work ok but haven't tried 2.6.35 [15:15] secret /etc/inittab action [15:15] its that way by design. if you log into graphical mode you get only one console [15:16] fortunev, change 3 to 4 in /etc/inittab [15:16] number 6 iirc [15:16] hm, if I cat /proc/asound/cards, a usb-audio device gets on slot 1 first, I don't have a usb sound card. [15:17] fortunev, I only have on F6 F2 X, F1 boot messages, others blank :( I'm using init 4 too [15:17] my default rl is 4 in inittab, but I thought I would still have the tty consoles. is it one or the other graphical or tty? [15:17] bitlord: it's not :( [15:17] this isn't rocket science [15:17] bitlord, tail -n10 /etc/inittab [15:17] madness [15:17] Say, anyone got a good flatbed scanner recommendation for Slackware. with Slack64 13.1 my old Visioneer 7100 USB worked for a while then stopped. still workes under WinXp [15:18] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@97-127-222-25.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] thrice`, tnx. [15:18] never read that before, just change default to 4 :( sorry [15:18] np :> [15:18] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-pnxprneufijrcoej) joined ##slackware. [15:19] thrice`: tnx... [15:19] oops, sorry bitlord, I meant fortunev of course :> [15:20] (long day at work, etc) :P [15:20] freelibrary, you dont need to set up the entire xorg.conf. just the parts you need to override autodetection [15:20] Does anyone here use qpopper? [15:20] thrice`, helped for me too, no problem [15:20] IaVoR (~IaVoR@unaffiliated/iavor) joined ##slackware. [15:22] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:22] miss_riss: isnt that a windows app? [15:22] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [15:23] sahko, no. [15:25] oh you wrote *q*popper not gpopper [15:26] xorg.conf is not as useful to edit as it was before, slackware has adopted fdi in /etc/hal/fdi to modify the xorg settings. [15:27] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:28] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@dynamic-adsl-94-36-196-224.clienti.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [15:28] IaVoR (~IaVoR@unaffiliated/iavor) left irc: Quit: ... [15:28] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] yes, but to get it to properly see my 3 trinitron monitors i set up Device, 2 monitor and and 2 Screen sections with the proper steeings so I can use the nvidia GUI to switch in and out of twinview at will [15:29] kimjeng (mike@196.201.217.233) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:30] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-113-109.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:30] Also needed to add a keyboard section for my logiteck kb so i get the buttons to work (volume) [15:31] Anything in xorg.conf overrides HAL [15:31] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:34] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@dynamic-adsl-94-36-196-224.clienti.tiscali.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:35] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@cpc3-leic3-0-0-cust792.8-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:35] M3no1ti0s (M3no1ti0s@cpc3-leic3-0-0-cust792.8-1.cable.virginmedia.com) left ##slackware. [15:36] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB9DA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [15:37] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] dammit, my webcam is mistaken for a soundcard, how do I prevent this from happening? modprobe.d blacklist? [15:39] that'll only block the driver. [15:39] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-127-17-34.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:40] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [15:40] ah, snd_usb_audio must be blocked. [15:45] if it is driver add 'blacklist snd_usb_audio' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [15:45] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:46] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-25-7-121.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:46] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:47] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-128-38.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:47] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:50] m3tti_ (~harlekin@p57B7AD15.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7AD15.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:52] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [15:52] slck-o (~cris@189.26.19.245.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:53] jaminja_ (~jaminja@dyn-62-56-70-104.dslaccess.co.uk) left irc: Quit: "eternal trails in netvoid" [15:53] zaltekk (~zaltekk@frog27.cs.clemson.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:55] jnylin (~jnylin@c-4171e655.177-7-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:57] Is there a code library application? [15:57] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:01] kworrell (~kworrell@cpe-76-93-164-45.san.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:01] hel all [16:01] hey* all [16:01] hi [16:02] i have a wlan device problem - can anybody help? [16:02] my wlan card keeps getting registered as /dev/eth0 or /dev/eth2 between boots [16:02] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [16:03] (this is a laptop - hp dv6000) [16:03] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:03] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-69-254.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [16:03] i've only touched my udev rules to set up something for my ipod, that's it [16:03] any guesses? [16:03] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [16:03] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-pnxprneufijrcoej) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:03] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-69-254.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [16:04] mmm ... there must be file 70-presistent-net.rules in /etc/udev/rules.d ... [16:04] u can say that card X with mac addr 'something' is ethX . [16:05] ok, let me check [16:05] i haven't ever really messed with much of anything in rules.d [16:05] i'll check that file though [16:05] it's not hard at all [16:06] linXea (~Slackytux@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Quit: Did you cut the PoWaH bitch ? [16:06] linXea (~Slackytux@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [16:06] ah [16:06] only one entry [16:06] # PCI device 0x14e4:0x4311 (wl) [16:06] SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:1a:73:b2:52:c1", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0" [16:07] try moving it out and rebooting, it might magically get re-created :) [16:07] moving what out, specifically? [16:07] this is a laptop [16:07] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Client Quit [16:07] lol [16:08] josemanuel (~josemanue@35.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [16:08] the file :) [16:08] ok, move it where, specifically? [16:08] why moving it ? [16:08] not sure i follow - apologies for my ignorance [16:08] just add an extra line [16:09] oh, cool [16:09] what should i add? [16:09] with the mac address of the interface that changes its name [16:09] kworrell, move it your ~ temporarily or something and reboot :) [16:09] in the same file [16:09] btw i dont think that reboot is needed ... but i'm not sure [16:09] maybe just udev force-reload .... [16:09] kworrell: doesn't matter. The file's existence is checked upon bootup. If it doesn't exist, it's recreated. [16:10] I would mv /etc/udev/rules.d/70-presistent-net.rules ~/you-suck.rules and reboot [16:10] that's another way to go :) [16:11] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:12] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-124-80.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:12] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [16:14] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Client Quit [16:15] Is there any way to glob out everything *except* a certain string? [16:15] You can do it for single characters in brackets, with the caret. [16:16] more specific maybe? using grep, sed ? [16:16] Don't have that option. [16:17] ok, globing must be a cs term, because I don't know wtf it means :p [16:18] whats a cs? [16:18] counter strike? [16:19] Globbing. It's what windows tards call wildcards. [16:19] if you mean in bash, search man bash for extglob. it lets you match inverse patterns [16:19] sahko: computer science [16:21] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: You make your own luck in life. [16:23] oh right, that would be more appropriate to use i guess [16:25] Thanks nooper. [16:25] kickback (~kickback@122.163.206.38) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:26] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-28-68.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Don't follow me [16:26] anyone tried running Torcs with nouveau? [16:28] Can't seem to turn extglob on for the init scripts though. [16:28] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.24.212.253) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:30] hba (~hba@189.130.38.82) joined ##slackware. [16:31] ashtif (~ashtif@host-87-242-19-19.prtelecom.hu) joined ##slackware. [16:31] 'shopt -s extglob' in the init script? [16:31] Nick change: Zbouby_ -> zbouby [16:32] Tried it. Doesn't seem to be working the way I'd expect. [16:32] Not the way it does during interactive shell. [16:33] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.19.245.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:35] Meh. I'm a stooge. [16:36] I'm either going blind in my old age, or dyslexic. [16:38] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [16:38] uhh now Ineed some help with micophone setup [16:39] first of all it seems that krec is not avalaible here on xfce hmm ... nor from console [16:39] any other recording with waveform or loopback ? [16:41] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.19.245.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:42] we need xfburn and evince in slackware dvd iso :-( [16:43] hmm slackware hot line :P [16:43] no if xfce is the second desktop on slackware it would be nice to have that tools too [16:44] xfburn is the k3b like gtk app [16:44] and evince is like okular [16:44] I vote for epdfview instead of evince :D [16:44] epdfview couldn't do presentation afaik [16:44] cr3_ (~cr3@h82-143-189-199-static.e-wro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:44] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:45] how do i install windows (msttcorefonts) [16:45] fonts for slackware [16:45] ? [16:45] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-28-68.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:45] cr3_: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/system/webcore-fonts/ [16:45] m3tti_, that can be said with quite the number of gtk packages :) [16:46] m3tti_: what about openoffice? [16:46] and definitely transmission [16:46] how big is the slackware iso now [16:47] pretty big [16:47] sahko: don't like it much. I write stuff with latex [16:47] thx [16:47] even presentations [16:47] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [16:47] i would suggest wine, so yu can use much better programs for office, msn messenger and mostly a lot of "desktop software" :) [16:47] oh i thought you forgot it [16:47] LOL [16:47] hba: are you kidding? [16:47] cr3_ (~cr3@h82-143-189-199-static.e-wro.net.pl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:47] i ha... don't like software for ms [16:47] m3tti_: no. [16:49] linXea (~Slackytux@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Quit: Did you cut the PoWaH bitch ? [16:49] linXea (~Slackytux@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [16:50] also, wine is much more small than openoffice+xfburn+evince+gtkrap+kdecrap. [16:50] http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4116/4903357926_c45f3a089e.jpg woa [16:50] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [16:53] hba: but it would only be a good option for slack32 [16:53] tekzilla (~jon@d030161.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:54] but at the rate wine releases, wouldn't it be out of date quite quickly? [16:54] pprkut: just trolling... dont take it srly ;) [16:54] hba: I was just trying to play along :) [16:55] thrice`: one stable release in a couple of years. I think that's doable ;) [16:55] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-69-254.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:55] tekzilla (~jon@d068054.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [16:56] rather than adding more stuff into slackware i would like to see the other way, remove. And why not? even re-structurate the series of packages. Making more little slackware would give a more "important" place for SlackBuild.org. [16:57] indeed, slackware is getting quite fat :) [17:00] linXea (~Slackytux@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Quit: Did you cut the PoWaH bitch ? [17:00] linXea (~Slackytux@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [17:01] but at the end, it PV decision :) [17:02] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [17:03] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-216.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:04] oxiredo_ro (~dumped@89.123.131.142) joined ##slackware. [17:05] alkos333 (1000@c-24-12-211-7.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:08] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:08] in a more panoramic view of this topic, slackware could be "the core", then you could have xfce-desktop-group, kde-dekstop-group, gnomre-desktop-group, server-group, workstation-development-group which in coordination with "the core" realease a distro. An interesting feature is that since these groups are based in "the core" you can install mix them to create your own system. [17:09] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7AD15.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:10] s/install mix/install and mix them/ [17:12] hy [17:12] mako-dono (~darkless@188.116.247.58) joined ##slackware. [17:12] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:13] does anyone know why i get this error (in pastebin.com); when i try to install ffmpeg on slackware 13 x86_64 : [17:13] http://pastebin.com/PfpATPaj [17:14] i have multilib installed...if that matters [17:15] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:17] hba: that sounds like netbsd [17:18] Action: GrooveDroid wonders why X is taking up 50% of his memory (that's 2 entire GB!) 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[17:41] hey folks [17:42] can i use old floppies to boot up and install a new distro [17:43] no idea :/ [17:43] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-238-89.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:43] loadlin restarts my computer [17:43] by floppy you mean 1.44 mb floppies? [17:43] yes [17:43] can't you use USB? [17:43] oxiredo_ro, are you trying to compile ffmpeg as pure x686_64 or as 32bit? if 32bit did you run the set up script provided by alienBOB to set up the 32 bit environment correctly? [17:43] this machine won't boot of off usb straight [17:44] CaptChron (~CaptChron@host-72-174-20-43.msl-mt.client.bresnan.net) joined ##slackware. [17:44] i tried using linld and the kernel panics :( [17:44] can't find the root device [17:44] what i did was use a dosusb driver [17:44] put it on a floppy [17:44] eew, /usr/local/lib/x264? sounds like a bad recipe :p [17:44] run it, use linld with the kernels and i thought it would boot to the installer [17:44] wagvan__ (~wagner@201-95-4-108.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:45] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [17:46] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-28-68.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:46] wagvan__ (~wagner@201-95-4-108.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [17:47] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:47] i tried do compile as 64bit but i could not ; so i installed it as 32 bit ; now it works :) [17:48] Ive got a lilo resolution Q, is the resolution handled in a different file besides the lilo.conf , if so what is the file and where is it? TY! [17:48] CaptChron, depends :) [17:48] veritos (veritos@207.155.204.151.ptr.us.xo.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:48] lol [17:48] k [17:49] fb resolution is indeed in lilo.conf, but if you have an intel or ATI video card, KMS will take over [17:49] on what? [17:49] hmm ive got a nvidia [17:49] old ti4600 [17:50] If I chmod +x /etc/rc.d/ntpd, and add server us.pool.ntp.org to ntpd.conf, is that sufficient for having my computer keep it's time synced? [17:50] ive changed res in lilo.conf but it comes up with a 305 on boot and i gave her a 773 so ? [17:51] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:51] Herman (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [17:51] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:52] qneo (knao@adsl-dyn-80.95-102-93.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [17:54] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-69-254.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [17:55] man i wish that there were still slack bootfloppies [17:55] :(( [17:55] Herman (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:55] I don't think the 2.6 kernel can fit anymore [17:55] yep [17:55] sign of the times [17:55] i have to figure out a way to load it from dos fully [17:56] you're using *that* as a sign that floppies are old? :0 [17:56] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:56] haha thrice` the setup program is in the initrd image? [17:57] MAAAAAN school books are expensive [17:57] but I only spent $351 instead of $600 like last semester [17:57] for better books too [17:58] bjx (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:59] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:59] DaRkOoO (darkooo@2001:470:e056:1:2::) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:59] bjx (~brendan@60-240-108-175.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [18:00] Nick change: elkclone_ -> elkclone [18:01] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:01] Ive got a lilo resolution Q, is the resolution handled in a different file besides the lilo.conf , if so what is the file and where is it? TY! [18:01] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [18:02] anyone a little help pls [18:02] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:02] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:03] cybErpunk (davi@189.4.126.138) joined ##slackware. [18:03] cybErpunk (davi@189.4.126.138) left irc: Changing host [18:03] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-436038.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:03] DaRkOoO (darkooo@unaffiliated/darkooo) joined ##slackware. [18:03] cant find nothing on kms idk what the hell that is , ive set the res in lilo.conf for a 773 and when it reboots it says 305 and asks what res i want to use to boot ....WTH eh! help [18:05] so my Q, is the resolution handled in a different file besides the lilo.conf , if so what is the file and where is it? TY! [18:05] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:07] talso (~talso@S01060014a66c0887.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:07] hi [18:08] CaptChron, aren't the person I tried to help b4? [18:08] alkos333 (1000@c-24-12-211-7.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:08] foobarz, lol sure is and your help workd [18:09] what else did you have to do? [18:09] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) joined ##slackware. [18:09] so my Q, is the resolution handled in a different file besides the lilo.conf , if so what is the file and where is it? [18:09] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:10] foobarz, i recomplied the kernel and the nvidia install took [18:10] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-174.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [18:10] now my console res is screwy [18:11] CaptChron: console text mode res? [18:11] at boot time [18:12] CaptChron: uninstall the package called nouveau [18:12] corretico_ (~laguilar@190.241.112.96) joined ##slackware. [18:12] foobarz, why is that ? [18:12] CaptChron: that package isn't used if you are using the nvidia driver [18:12] foobarz, kewl ty eh [18:14] why uninstall nouveau. [18:14] it's blacklisted regardless by default. [18:14] no such pkg eh [18:15] tuvok302 (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-117.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] Action: popl checks his shoes [18:16] did somebody step in something? [18:16] foobarz, yeah i dont have no nouveau [18:16] xf86-video-nouveau-blacklist-noarch-1 [18:16] so my Q, is the resolution handled in a different file besides the lilo.conf , if so what is the file and where is it? [18:16] f86-video-nouveau-blacklist-noarch-1 <-- would be the package name. [18:16] CaptChron: xf86-video-nouveau-blacklist ....yeah that is it... sometimes it is not blacklisted I think... when I installed slackware, it used it [18:16] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-174.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:17] foobarz: uhm. ..... say what? [18:17] that package will conflict with the nvidia driver so better to just have it uninstalled [18:17] ....... [18:17] unicorns, motherfucker [18:17] ah, nerd rage [18:17] how does that conflict with the nvidia driver? [18:17] I thought I smelled something [18:17] BP{k}, foobarz it doesn't. [18:18] foobarz, lol kewl thanks for the name on that file , it removed the pkg now [18:18] hiptobecubic: I *know* [18:18] ;) [18:18] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:18] Action: popl pictures BP{k} getting all hot and flustered [18:18] bjx (~brendan@60-240-108-175.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:19] CaptChron: you may not want to do that. [18:19] popl: I have a problem with people giving bad and fucking retarded advice. [18:19] BP{k}, well too late [18:19] CaptChron: good luck [18:19] at any rate, if using the nvidia driver then nouveau is at least wasting space and is a potential conflict with the nvidia driver... I'd have to look at what libraries nouveau it puts in the system etc etc [18:19] BP{k}, hey ty [18:19] BP{k}: also with restraint [18:19] :) [18:20] foobarz: you just made him enable the nouveau driver... well done. [18:20] BP{k}, same to you eh [18:20] uninstall [18:20] BP{k}: you should have a live cam feed so people can actually witness the day you have a coronary while in front of the keyboard. [18:20] YES FUCK YEAH [18:20] I OPENED THE USBBOOT.IMG [18:20] EXTRACTED THE KERNELS [18:20] USED LINLD [18:20] AND IT WORKED [18:20] FUCK YEAH [18:20] pragmadev: stop shouting :P [18:20] popl: you can wait a long while for that. :P [18:20] BP{k}: I have my ways. [18:20] ;P [18:20] but popl i'm shouting irl [18:20] :D [18:21] BP{k}: I think I know what you may mean... removing that package does nothing? except clear it from the blacklist? I will look [18:22] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.136.84) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:23] BP{k}: you know, I don't mind if you want to add your 2 bits to the conversation and maybe correct mistakes when you see them, but there is not need for you to insult while doing it [18:23] karlzt (~karlzt@unaffiliated/karlzt) joined ##slackware. [18:24] foobarz: then stop giving wrong advice, and read the files first. By the time you given the advice, I had located the package and read the description to know enough that it was doing. [18:24] foobarz, hey man your the only one to pipe up with help so BP can suk it [18:24] BP{k}: I concur with foobarz. I think you might overreact sometimes. [18:24] CaptChron: You should probably learn to rtfm, noob. :P [18:24] popl: you want me to apologise? [18:25] ljubak (~ljubak@cable-94-189-144-226.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:25] check the temperature in hell first. [18:25] ppl read the fucking manual eh [18:25] BP{k}: No, but there are so many dicks on IRC that it would be nice to have one less. [18:25] ashtif (~ashtif@host-87-242-19-19.prtelecom.hu) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:25] CaptChron: but yes.... do keep that package installed [18:25] :P [18:25] popl: well you are free to /quit :) [18:26] Not until I translate my blotto box to IRC, BP{k}. [18:26] foobarz, ill grab it again ty [18:26] Then it will be the biggest /quit you've ever seen. [18:27] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.228.41) joined ##slackware. [18:27] cya popl take it easy now [18:28] karlzt (~karlzt@unaffiliated/karlzt) left irc: Client Quit [18:28] Down here in hell its cooled off I bit. So my 2 cnets (Nvidia 7600GS AGP) on a full slackware64 13.1 multilib is to juts install the binary nvidia blob and all is good. never had issuess [18:29] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [18:29] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [18:29] dont know hwta all this rant is on worrying about nouveau [18:29] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-76-2.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [18:30] for the record, BP{k} was not a 'dick'. [18:30] now thumbs on the other hand [18:30] one must admit his errors when he makes them. Yes, that includes you, foobarz [18:30] You can be correct and still be a dick, thumbs. [18:30] I thought both hands had "thumbs" [18:30] My 2 cents is "woooo VDPAU" [18:31] sounds like a vulcan with venereal disease [18:32] foobarz, so the pkg is installed again , any other ideas on the res for lilo [18:32] It's hardware video acceleration. [18:32] foobarz: this is why you don't feed strays. [18:32] lol popl [18:33] GrooveDroid, i know. just messing with ya. got a GTS 220 in anther system that has that support + cuda [18:33] feed the strays eh [18:34] popl is all knowing right [18:34] No, far from it. [18:34] but I know how to rtfm [18:34] :D [18:34] really i dont recall my Q being in the manual [18:35] bah. RTFM is for pansies. reverse engineer from scratch! [18:35] kingbeowulf: it's not funny if you know Vulcans with venereal diseases :/ [18:35] but i dont want ur help anyways popl i dont trust someone how puts down others to make him or her self better [18:35] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Quit: 221 GoodBye - WeeChat 0.3.3-dev [18:35] look* [18:35] I'm not putting anyone down. [18:36] sure arnt helping [18:36] GrooveDroid, ok but if you know any Vulcans you (a) need to change your meds, (b) get out of the house more [18:36] kingbeowulf: they told me that would be the way some people would respond! [18:36] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-69-254.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:37] CaptChron: most resolutions are set in /etc/lilo.conf (not any other file) but saying that, I am unfamiliar with KMS and how it works to help you properly. [18:37] CaptChron: It's not like I'm giving you bad advice. [18:37] "They" THEM! Its a conspiracy! [18:37] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7AD15.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:37] BP{k}, hey ty man [18:37] kingbeowulf: <.< ... >.> ... ssh don't mention them! [18:38] i have tomorrow off work and im slackdrunk [18:38] what do you guys do with slackdrunks? [18:39] is that package on SBo? [18:39] popl, all someone hears when there trying to learn this stuff is google or read the fuking manual , seldom does someone step forward to help like foobarz has and bp k [18:40] alema0ff (~alema0@merlin.syncer.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:40] CaptChron: anyway... you are having some weird console issue, is just wanted you to be aware of that nouveau driver... it is actually in the kernel (almost hidden in there) in a place called "drivers/staging drivers" when I compiled my kernel I excluded those modiles from my kernel build and so the nouveau kernel modules are not on my system, and then I removed that xf86-nouveau-blacklist thing too just too without ever really looking at it [18:40] before you attempt linux, you need to train your mind and say 'be patient, dont expect things to happen instantly, read and learn; [18:40] I help but like to relax when done talking to people at work all day :) [18:41] CaptChron: I actually help people quite frequently. [18:41] the more you get into the linux world, the more there is to learn, i dont get bored anymore, just tired [18:41] foobarz, well ty again , its just cosmetic anyways , the system is working , [18:42] popl, what geting upset at you [18:42] well guys have a great day ill bbl some day eh take it easy [18:42] CaptChron (~CaptChron@host-72-174-20-43.msl-mt.client.bresnan.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:43] most people when they retire they will wonder what to do with their spare time, if you have a linux habit you dont have to worry about that :D [18:43] Action: dustybin stops drinking wine [18:43] BP{k}: yo dude, wtf? [18:43] Starts drinking liquor? [18:43] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:43] I got some single malt scotch [18:43] hmm did someone check if he ran /sbin/lilo after updating his /etc/lilo.conf [18:44] uh oh [18:44] BP{k}: He'll find out. [18:44] reiserfs or ext2? [18:45] is BP{k} abusing his admin? [18:45] BP{k}: I helped that CaptChron yesterday... I told him to run lilo before, so that it write his master boot record... maybe he knows [18:45] I've seen CaptChron a few times in here now. [18:45] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [18:46] foobarz: he might have forgotten it. has happened to me in the past before, one little change "reboot" .. uhm .. did I run lilo .. oops. [18:46] g0v: thanks [18:46] CaptChron just seems like a CaptObviousman wannabe [18:46] Action: mwalling namedrops [18:46] so folks [18:46] wifekiller fs? [18:46] phrag: I thought you "fixed" g0v. ;P [18:46] Action: CaptObviousman eyes mwalling suspiciously [18:47] <3 [18:47] yeah, I think a lot of people come into these channels with fake questions, just to see us react [18:47] ive forgotten to run lilo more time than i care to admit. usually at 2am and wondering why my new kernel doesn't boot [18:47] <3 [18:47] still here and outta rehab finally [18:47] foobarz: nerd rage is funny to watch [18:47] it is for entertainment [18:47] my linode coasted the whole time =) [18:47] someone give me a suggestion? [18:47] i dunno what to use [18:47] old p1 laptop [18:48] pragmadev: eat something [18:48] hi, when i boot up all i get is a blinking cursor [18:48] fix me naio! [18:48] dunno if i should use reiserfs or ext2 popl [18:48] blink ... blink ... blink ... [18:48] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [18:48] pragmadev: ext2 [18:48] GrooveDroid (default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:48] thanks [18:48] thats apples to oranges [18:48] yes [18:49] whatever happened to Captopromancy or whatever tf his name is [18:49] so it resolves to personal preference, and I prefer ext2 [18:49] i only used reiser once [18:49] but theres no journal? [18:49] it was lightning fast [18:49] reiser borked my harddrive once [18:49] *reiserfs [18:49] no reiser borked his wife [18:49] well, i guess since I'm banned from offtopic, I'll jsut bring my offtopic chatter here [18:49] pragmadev: why wasnt ext3 an option? [18:50] GrooveDroid (default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:50] no one type /me punches kethry in the spine... it will get you banned. [18:50] Action: mwalling punches Cann0n in the spine [18:50] Cann0n: you might want to quit while you're ahead [18:50] it is an option [18:50] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-73-248.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [18:50] pragmadev: thats the option i'd use [18:50] raela: i don't realy give a fuck. [18:50] i just don't want to use it since it's slower [18:50] Cann0n: There's no fairness here. It's a big clique. [18:50] raela: wan2bone [18:50] ok, what's up with #2050, is that a fake? That's gotta be a fake [18:51] oxiredo_ro (~dumped@89.123.131.142) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:51] pragmadev: i only use ext2 on flash drives because i bought into the whole "journals wear out your disks" thing [18:51] popl: i know. everyone can talk about squirting fluids out of kethry's vagina... but i jokingly say ima punch her in the spine (sex joke) i get banned. [18:51] compeletly out of line. [18:52] pragmadev: everwhere else i use ext3 or zfs [18:52] mwalling: it's a p1 laptop so i was concerned with speed [18:52] needed something zipper [18:52] Man.... I bought 4GB of RAM, thinking it would solve my problems. Should have bought 8... [18:52] Cann0n: forget about it and move on with your life. that's what I do. [18:52] pragmadev: its not *that* slow [18:53] already installing to ext2 [18:53] i can convert it to ext3 easily [18:53] Cann0n: if someone is petty enough to do something like that then they're not worth being friends with anyways. [18:53] tune2fs -J [18:53] yep CaptObviousman [18:53] Cann0n: difference being who said it - you obviously don't know who kethry is, and you're not friends with her like the others.. so [18:53] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:53] Cann0n: see you're never getting laid [18:53] i know BP{k} has a big crush on kethry [18:53] you've got no game with women [18:54] see, it's clique [18:54] *it's a [18:54] becaues i know hang out on irc long enough, i get banned over /me punches kethry in teh spine? [18:54] but she goes on about squirting vaginas? [18:54] yeah Cann0n cause you're a fucking pushover hahaha [18:54] thats just abusing admin [18:54] such is IRC [18:54] Cann0n: um.. they're significant others. been living together for years. pretty much as close as you get to being married without actually being married [18:55] Cann0n: BP{k} isn't even an op of the channel.. reading comprehension fail [18:55] popl: i remember when i used to lurk here last time that Cann0n was a little bitch [18:55] how come you didn't get rid of him [18:55] :D [18:55] eh, so everyone can talk about her vagina, but i get banned for a silly /me? [18:56] who's this Cann0n chode? [18:56] pragmadev: i don't even know you pal. [18:56] yeah you do [18:56] i'm a different nick to avoid attention [18:56] oh, can't stick to one nick? must be a troll? [18:56] you're obviously the channel chewtoy ;) [18:56] now fuck off [18:56] pragmadev: be nice [18:57] popl: i used to be [18:57] Cann0n, It'd be wise of you to quit while you're ahead, BP{k} isn't an op here or in OT. Also, your pm attempts failed, I block all pm's, you got banned from there, move on. [18:57] Is there such a thing as a channel chew toy? [18:57] the internets: serious business for people named Cann0n [18:57] ^ hahaha [18:57] CaptObviousman: he reminds me of cartman [18:57] Cann0n: difference being, the ones talking about it are on good terms with BP{k} and kethry.. and obviously joking [18:57] fire|bird: thats pretty shitty admining [18:58] wait why's he talking about his stupid problems here [18:58] Cann0n: get a life irc isn't the best thing that ever happened to anybody except you it seems [18:58] raela: so, i don't go in irc 24/7 like you and your online friends,so that is clear reason to ban me without warning? [18:58] test34 (~test34@c-69-244-243-126.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:58] Action: CaptObviousman will stop feeding now [18:59] man thats shitty... [18:59] Cann0n: yep [18:59] Cann0n: difference is, I'm not doing it to people I don't know :) [18:59] Cann0n: Imagine the same scenario IRL [18:59] raela: i've talked with kethry like a 100 times [19:00] Cann0n: yet you don't know her relationship to BP{k}? [19:00] popl: this isn't real life... it's offtopic unjustice [19:00] Guys, don't fight about girls. I'd rather you fight about hardware or something. [19:00] ^^^^^^^^^^ [19:00] raela: i know they had a thing, but fire|bird told me to keep that all a secret [19:00] join #vaginalfluids and fight there [19:00] GrooveDroid: MY LAPTOP LCD IS BETTER THAN YOURS! http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1378/may2010lines.jpg [19:00] pragmadev, hahaha [19:00] the point is, iw as banned for saying /me punchs kethry in the spine [19:00] Action: kingbeowulf uses Cann0n as a chew toy [19:00] fortunev (1000@ip70-174-66-150.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:00] why did ##slackware suddenly turn into ##soapopera? [19:00] MUCH MUCH MUCH worst things have been said in that chat [19:01] Hah [19:01] popl: f that, it's official.. *#*soapopera [19:01] jesus [19:01] I'd show you MINE but my laptop won't even BOOT! [19:01] "All my Slackware" [19:01] would you just shut it already Cann0n? [19:01] "As the Slackware turns" [19:01] i dunno why he keeps bitching about it [19:01] I'm gone for a year and I get to come back to this [19:01] he's not aware that [life|IRC] is not fair. [19:01] "general Slackware" [19:01] i've been gone for 6 months or so [19:02] Cann0n: At any rate, you're handling the resulting situation rather poorly. [19:02] Cann0n: It's a classic noob mistake. [19:02] he could have just said sorry [19:02] and been nice [19:02] and they would have let him back in [19:02] maybe not pragmadev [19:02] but at least he would have made the effort [19:03] it's better than what he's doing now [19:03] i'm coming back to slackware and offtopic [19:03] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-28-68.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:03] popl: don't talk about proper situation handling. I'm not the admin banning people for replying to a squirting vagina conversation... [19:03] "days of our Slackware" [19:03] Cann0n: nobody gives a life [19:03] you're a tool [19:03] *shit [19:03] Channel flood from pragmadev -- kicking [19:03] whoops [19:03] pragmadev kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [19:04] pragmadev (4a49fd22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.73.253.34) joined ##slackware. [19:04] bwa hahaha [19:04] i accidentally [19:04] :D [19:04] lol [19:04] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:04] Nick change: pragmadev -> mach_kernel [19:04] http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/08/19/2133246/Root-Privileges-Through-Linux-Kernel-Bug?from=rss [19:05] discuss [19:05] I just found a wkipedia entry on soap operas so I can keep going until someone says something out my most heavenly wittiness [19:05] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:06] on the slackware.com, the slackware 13.1 release announcement thanks "Slackware IRC channels"... is that this the channel being thanked? or is there another channel that announcement really has in mind? [19:06] popl, so this is not the X server bug I asked about earlier, but another [19:06] foobarz: both this channel and the #slackware on oftc. [19:07] kingbeowulf: I don't know which bug you talked about earlier. [19:07] foobarz: and possibly others [19:07] kingbeowulf: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/08/18/1534258/Linux-Xorg-Critical-Security-Flaw-Silently-Patched [19:07] kingbeowulf: is that it? [19:08] popl, yes taht one [19:08] kingbeowulf, same bug I think [19:08] it's the same one [19:08] it's not X but kernel [19:08] well according to the /. discussion, no they are separate [19:08] ah [19:08] /. has too much fud [19:09] hear hear [19:09] at least it's not Fox [19:09] esp ever since the bastards went corporate [19:09] is there a comand I can use that will dump swap? [19:09] kingbeowulf: dude that was aeons ago [19:10] popl, no thats how long i've been alive. /. is still just a wee yougnster [19:10] mach_kernel (4a49fd22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.73.253.34) left irc: Quit: Page closed [19:11] And if you notice the artical is by people pimping "Qubes OS". [19:11] sweet [19:11] any relation to Qubert? [19:12] ok, so you're old. check. [19:12] but /. went corporate in 199 [19:12] *1999 [19:12] founded in 1997 [19:12] but they sold out in 1999 :P [19:13] so anyone who thinks that was "long ago" must have been in daipers back then [19:13] What's your reasoning? [19:13] an early dotcom success story before the crash [19:13] 1997/1999 is recent history [19:13] manwichmakeameal (~tjones@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [19:14] so, no one knows? my swap got filled up to 100%, i closed down the programs that ate it up, but swap never cleared, how do I manually clear it? [19:14] too many people into the computer/computer pop culture think anything from last year is "ancient" [19:15] KaMii: swap gets overwritten. you don't need to "clear" it. [19:15] pfft lol cats are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 2005 [19:15] :D [19:15] Action: ananke looks at his 4 digit /. id and thinks he should have gotten an account earlier... [19:15] trying to install sdl_gfx and getting errors. gcc not working??? http://pastebin.com/rmQbdHQq. Do I need a new gcc compiler? [19:15] it's lolcats, without the space [19:15] but its sitting at 100% used right now [19:16] ;P [19:16] fortunev: did you follow the directions? [19:16] kingbeowulf: 11 years is a long time. [19:17] ananke: yep. didn't see anything out of the norm thou [19:17] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [19:17] fortunev: pastebin.com it then [19:17] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:17] looks like you are trying to build an i486 package on x86_64 [19:17] http://pastebin.com/rmQbdHQq [19:18] fortunev: that's the same error. you need to provide config.log [19:18] popl, based on perspective, its 1/2 my sons lifetime but only 1/5 of mine [19:18] ok.... wheres theh config.log I hate being a noob! [19:19] kingbeowulf: you can't compare the lifetime of a computer to the lifetime of a human [19:19] kingbeowulf: It's 12.8% of the average US citizen's life. [19:19] fortunev: current working directory [19:19] computers in that era have out lived their usefulness [19:19] thought I read sdl_gfx would compil on 64bit [19:19] It will [19:20] tuvok302 (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-117.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby [19:20] gniks, just sayin that just because it happened a few yrs ago that does not mean its not relevant today [19:20] ananke: theres no config.log in the dir I ran the build script from. [19:20] adobe reader is eating up all my ram and swap... but its the only pdf reader that doesnt give me errors trying to open most pdf files [19:20] 1999 was not a *few* years ago KaMii [19:20] sorry, kingbeowulf [19:20] kingbeowulf: its way more than a few years ago [19:20] fortunev: ohh, some build script. config.log is in the same dir that your source is being built in [19:20] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-128-38.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [19:21] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.227.199) joined ##slackware. [19:21] sure lessons learned in business back then are useful for todays business, but that is due to the fact that business practices don't change much& but they do evolve, especially as technology evolves [19:21] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [19:21] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@cpc3-leic3-0-0-cust792.8-1.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:22] hiya [19:22] ananke: He is using an older version of the build script that does not auto detect $ARCH. At least that is my guess. [19:22] quite possibly. [19:22] Action: ananke hasn't ran 64 bit slack yet [19:24] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:24] ananke: the joys of multilib await [19:24] s/await/potentially await/ [19:24] M3no1ti0s (M3no1ti0s@cpc3-leic3-0-0-cust792.8-1.cable.virginmedia.com) left ##slackware. [19:25] which makes me only want to stay away from it :) [19:25] fortunev: Try this ARCH=x86_64 ./SDL_gfx.SlackBuild [19:25] haha, i run slack 64 without multilib, but i don't run flash and other things on it [19:25] i have other OS's to do that with [19:25] I use Windows in a VM [19:26] :P [19:26] :p [19:26] that works hehe [19:27] KaMii, i would stay away from adobereader. Iv'e had good luck with okular (successor to kpdf) and xpdf. Some like evince. which once have you tried? [19:27] x-ip (~lain@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:27] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [19:27] one thing i've been baffled by okular: it doesn't seem to provide full screen view [19:27] ananke: SDL_gfx config.log http://pastebin.com/0WwMBgMh [19:27] KaMii: you can always convert the pdf to another format [19:28] # [19:28] conftest.c:1: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set [19:28] fortunev: there's your problem. and look at the line above it. [19:28] there's yhour problem [19:28] d'oh [19:28] fortunev: follow what XGizzmo suggested [19:29] ananke, you are right, it doesn't. but I am in a 19inch trinitron so i never bothered [19:29] you are in it? how do you breathe? [19:29] kingbeowulf: it was just a side observation. found it to be really annoying when trying to do full screen pdf presentations [19:29] anake: opps wrong.. it does it is called "presentation" under "view" [19:29] popl, magic [19:30] popl, i breathe positrons [19:30] xovan: so, mirrors? [19:30] kingbeowulf: i'll be damned. didn't see it there. kept looking for full screen [19:30] kingbeowulf: thanks [19:30] ananke: ok i have 64bit slackware installed, and this sdl_gfx pkg is not written for 64bit? [19:30] ya, converting to html or chm would work, but is there a command for that? [19:31] fortunev: follow XGizzmo. i can't help you with 64 bit slack, never used it [and likely never will] [19:31] KaMii: pdf2ps then ps2ascii [19:31] ananke, no prob. happens to me all teh time call it a 'DOH! moment [19:31] haha, ok [19:32] well cant xchm read ps files? [19:32] I don't know. [19:32] i think i have a program somewhere that does [19:32] I don't use xchm. [19:32] kingbeowulf: that's what happens when software makers try to use non-standard nomenclature [19:34] ananke, tell me about it . I have next to me Linux, WinXP, Win7 OS9 and OS X with a collection or proprietary and F/Oss s/w. hell I rarely can find anything across the varying menu schemes [19:35] sounds like a pain in the neck. [19:35] I have trouble keeping things organized on one monitor [19:35] at least search functions these days are getting better [19:35] no doubt [19:35] XGizzmo: ARCH=x86_64 That was it!!! You guys Rock! ;-) [19:36] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:36] he rocks. we roll [19:36] are those config options listed in the pkg somewhere? [19:37] which config options? [19:37] fortunev, if you open the slackbuild, you can see the variable settings. Slackbuilds.org also has a tutorial [19:37] probably CFLAGS="-O2 -fPIC" [19:38] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:38] "config" options are for compiling. the slackbuyild just automates the manual steps [19:38] Action: ananke doesn't like to guess [19:38] stinky_ (nemesis@free.blinkenshell.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:38] stinky (nemesis@free.blinkenshell.org) joined ##slackware. [19:39] actually config options are for the configure option, compile flags are for compiling :) [19:39] gniks, HOW DARE YOU CORRECT YOUR KING! [19:40] lulz [19:40] Action: kingbeowulf lops off gniks head [19:40] i still haven't seen fortunev answer [19:40] considering my last name is king, i believe i have you beat ;) [19:40] kingbeowulf: king? I didn't vote for you! [19:40] my last name is "king" in German. [19:40] mine is king in english :p [19:41] BP{k}, How do you get to be king then? [19:41] BP{k}: monarchy doesn't rely on voting :) [19:41] (actually we did that one once before I recall) [19:41] dive: we did. [19:41] Well, 1st you beat the crap out of all contenders [19:41] then after a century or two, claim royal rights via god [19:42] I still say that strange women lying in ponds is no basis for a system of goverment. supreme executive power is derived from a mandate from the masses! [19:42] not from some farcical aquatic ceremony! [19:43] heh [19:43] he he he python [19:43] IN that case, a sewage mass is king [19:43] I must dig that film out soon [19:43] my kids lost it the little bastards [19:43] ananke: my anser about what? [19:44] ananke: I know, the whole think was a play on monty pythons "consitutional peasant sketch" ;) [19:45] sdl_gfx install completed .... oooRaa! my noob days are numbered! [19:45] ooo...look at the time. got a date with the wife...might even get lucky. later gators... [19:45] kingbeowulf, laters [19:45] BP{k}: ohh yeah, i do remember that one [19:45] fortunev, huzzah [19:45] kingbeowulf: not too much eude toilet this time! [19:45] Help Help I'm being repressed! [19:46] kingbeowulf (~kingbeowu@c-71-59-193-120.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:46] Action: fortunev [19:46] on a more serious note anybody play with fvwm? [19:46] Action: fortunev bows to xovan [19:46] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829] [19:47] mako-dono (~darkless@188.116.247.58) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:49] is it hard to configure to make it pretty? [19:49] or should I worry about it like awesome? [19:49] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.24.212.253) joined ##slackware. [19:51] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:56] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [19:57] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:57] Action: dustybin drinks slackwine v4.02 [19:58] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [19:58] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [19:59] m3tti_ (~harlekin@p57B7AD15.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:00] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [20:00] could someone point me to microphone recoreder ? [20:00] with wave output ? [20:01] sorry for silly question, but thats for detecting if it works , so if I download some trash from SF I never know whats wrong software or ALSA ... [20:03] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:04] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) left irc: Quit: http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop. [20:04] paul424: something like audacity? [20:06] fortunev: hmm whats that ? [20:07] tsccof (~tsccof@201-89-150-25.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:08] hmm configuring microphone is an space odyssay here [20:10] paul424: Audacity is an audio recorder / processor. Does a bit more than just record from a mic, but it should do/ [20:11] but I have to download it right , huh I think that was one of those crapped unpolished kde application [20:12] couldn't you just pipe the device into a file? [20:12] asdfjkl (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:13] paul424: google it. not kde, but you woudl have to dl the pkg [20:13] huh but mcuh easier is to have something graphical that I se the waves or not [20:14] uhh after each config its tough to do the loop record etc [20:14] Skywise: may I pipe from micro to sound output ? [20:14] uhh directly ? [20:14] i dunno, you could try it pretty quickly tho [20:18] slick55 (~slick@cpe-075-176-171-074.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:19] Skywise: like ? [20:19] uhh now works [20:20] mic select in kde mixer setting ought to be 2 not 1 . [20:20] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.227.199) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [20:20] what is more this swithch is not in ALSA ... argh [20:20] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.227.199) joined ##slackware. [20:20] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:21] do you guys know regex / sed awk [20:21] and bash [20:21] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:23] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:23] uhh basic unix test final test tomorrow, huh ? [20:23] slick55 (~slick@cpe-075-176-171-074.sc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:24] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:24] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-73-248.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [20:25] ok ask your questions ... :D here, I regard it as a test [20:25] for me :D [20:26] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [20:26] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [20:26] u-neeks (~u-neeks@200-193-251-193.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:26] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-189.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] asdfjkl (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [20:28] The-Croupier (Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. 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[20:48] Action: agentc0re facepalms [20:49] im mashed [20:51] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:52] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:53] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Changing server [20:54] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:55] grazymax (~grazymax@host95-154-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [20:59] AlanCox (~SlackWare@bl14-251-120.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [21:00] Hm. [21:00] Sorry if someone answered earlier but please answer again. [21:00] Is there such thing as a code library app? [21:00] Or code management software? [21:01] git, svn, hg. [21:01] No.. [21:01] Not version control. [21:02] Just a place where I can stick code snippets in. [21:02] Action: dustybin feels uncomfortable when females are present [21:02] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [21:03] you'll get over it after puberty [21:03] haha im 34 [21:03] theres still time [21:03] late bloomer ... [21:04] jcn0 (~jcn@189.58.220.137.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:05] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: Read error: No route to host [21:05] jcn0 (jcn@189.58.220.137.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left ##slackware. [21:05] Nick change: em -> emma [21:05] miss_riss: sry, but im pretty sure you can stick code snippets in them, you can even stick code snippets in some file inside a directory, check vi(for an editor) and cd/mkdir commands :) [21:06] freack (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [21:06] Nick change: freack -> jcn0 [21:07] I already do that hba, sticking it in a txt and then in a folder. [21:07] But I want it more... um.. better. [21:07] lol [21:07] http://www.mtelligent.com/journal/2009/5/28/why-you-need-a-snippet-management-tool.html but no such exist that I know of. [21:08] grazymax (~grazymax@host227-48-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [21:12] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.57.19) joined ##slackware. [21:13] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.24.212.253) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:14] eduslack (~eduslack@200-163-2-95.bsace705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:15] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-127-17-34.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:18] corretico_ (~laguilar@190.241.112.96) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:19] eduslack (eduslack@200-163-2-95.bsace705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [21:20] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:22] tty3 (~tty3@unaffiliated/tty3) joined ##slackware. [21:29] You know... [21:30] dont know you... [21:30] tty3 (~tty3@unaffiliated/tty3) left irc: Quit: 0/ [21:30] I'm not sure that made any sense at all. [21:30] tsccof (~tsccof@201-89-150-25.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:30] miss_riss (~risah@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: miss_riss [21:31] hiptobecubic about "snippet-management-tool"? [21:32] No [21:36] With all of the money that microsoft has spent on fighting it, it ended up being linux that stopped me from pirating their software. [21:36] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.31.21) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:38] nachox (~Ignacio@133-74-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:38] hiptobecubic: linux cut your hands, put you in jail? [21:39] no that was still microsoft. linux got me to stop pirating things :) [21:41] dont know if i can hop in, but my story with linux is that is much easier to do things on it then on windows [21:41] can I hop in? [21:41] a/s/l tsccof? [21:41] lol [21:42] rofl [21:42] Nick change: AlanCox -> SlackLnx [21:42] 22, female, sweden [21:42] ;) [21:43] pupit, which things? [21:44] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:44] hiptobecubic: simple things in few steps, like editing apache, setting up nfs.. i forgot a lot of hard work in M$ when i switched over 3 years ago [21:46] for example, i had a problem to solve with file sharing in windows at my buddies house, the ONLY solution was to delete shared folder, make another one with diff name, and share it. i banged my head few years because of those kind of problems.. [21:47] pupit, ah. yes [21:48] windows registry is like some black hole, nothing ever leaves from there [21:48] pupit, what i noticed is that things in both OS's tend to not work at all, but in windows they don't give you any options to fix them [21:48] like window's "repair network connection" button [21:48] what a joke [21:48] hahah [21:49] i never bother to understand that :D [21:49] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [21:49] windows = crap [21:49] unix = epic win [21:49] me = black and white [21:50] but its fun to wait and see if it will be repaired. those moments, filled with stardust. :D [21:50] pupit, yes :D [21:51] Speaking of the registry, what is going on with gconf? Is that really the direction they want to go in? What's wrong with text files [21:52] dunno what your talking about :\ [21:52] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gconf [21:55] fosforo_1 (~fosforo@187.126.57.19) joined ##slackware. [21:56] goj (~goj@p5488F187.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:57] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [21:57] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.57.19) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:57] seems its a database for configuration settings... im not familiar with databases, but i do like to know what text file i can change manually to fix stuff [21:58] but thats gnome thing [21:59] tltstc (~tltstc@192.207.69.1) joined ##slackware. [21:59] The redeeming quality in gconf is that it doesn't look like it can actually _break_ an application, just revert you to default install settings or something [21:59] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Quit: Sir_Konrad [22:00] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [22:01] imagine whole httpd conf with dozen+ vhost go back to default and phone starts ringing.. 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[22:54] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [22:55] gem__ (~gem@129.42.208.179) joined ##slackware. [22:55] Nick change: gem__ -> FrankD [22:59] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] anyone have experience with RAID setups? was wondering if theres a truly reliable raid level with sata drives [23:01] fosforo_1 (~fosforo@187.126.57.19) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:01] akmalhamdani (~Pandamoni@182.0.212.233) joined ##slackware. [23:04] Sid (~Sid@pool-98-119-47-86.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:04] Raggs (~X@99-29-0-126.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:08] Sid (Sid@pool-98-119-47-86.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:11] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-78-151.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:15] FrankD: are you planning hardware or software RAID? [23:19] shonudo, software, unless its really worth going SAS and then id consider going hardware [23:19] software isn't very stable [23:19] no? [23:20] nope [23:20] can you quantify/explain that? [23:20] 'truly reliable'? define that [23:20] well, you'll find your array going south from time to time [23:20] a true pisser [23:20] shonudo: uhmm, anecdotical evidence. i like that [23:20] can you use some techinal sounding words? [23:20] ananke, meaning where i have a high probability of recovering from a single disk failure [23:21] other than 'going south'? [23:21] FrankD: raid6 [23:21] nooper: will "thingy" added to that help? [23:21] ;) [23:21] FrankD: that gives you n+2, two parity drives. gives you a better chance at survival [23:21] you can use raid1 with as many mirrors as you want [23:21] no. and no thingmajig either [23:21] ananke, raid6 doesnt guarantee recovery from a single disk failure with current drive capacites, still a decent chance of a URe [23:22] you could have 3 or 4 mirrors without the computational overhead of raid 5 or 6 [23:22] FrankD: there is no guarantee with any raid [23:22] i've found hardware raid to be more reliable (that really is my point) [23:22] there is with raid1 [23:22] but no matter; you can setup a software raid array [23:22] ananke, no, not a guarantee, but with the specified URE of SATA drives and RAID5/6, theres a pretty good chance youll have a URE on a raid recovery [23:22] if you lose any drive, you still have complete functional copies, no need to resync or recover [23:23] you just add a new mirror whenever [23:23] Sid (~Sid@pool-98-119-47-86.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:23] hey Skywise (btw) [23:23] Skywise, true.. but i like the idea of having parity [23:23] evening shonudo [23:23] why? [23:23] its just overhead [23:23] reliability > speed for this application [23:23] use raid 10 [23:24] so being able to catch and possibly correct errors is important [23:24] you get the reliability of mirror with the speed of striping [23:24] best of both worlds [23:24] or you could even go with ssd [23:24] FrankD: my current set of systems spans across more than 300 boxes. so far i've never had more than double disk failure. [23:24] raid 10 would work for you FrankD [23:24] i think the time of raid 5 and 6 has passed [23:24] FrankD: of course, beyond raid you should be doing backup [23:24] but what is your particular application? [23:24] ananke, of course [23:24] raid is never a sub for backups [23:25] medium duty database [23:25] and i haven't seen software any more problematic than hardware raid [23:26] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) left irc: Quit: Please release me from this hell..... [23:27] ananke, i have... may be anecdotal, but i think the difference is night and day [23:27] i think you want raid 10 [23:28] why striped? [23:28] shonudo: so far you haven't presented much that would convince anybody [23:28] performance [23:28] performance isnt a big issue here [23:28] especially on a database [23:28] Frequent backups are best defense. [23:28] Skywise: he did say he's interested in reliability over performance [23:28] well then stick with raid 1 [23:29] but you're not trading one for the other in a raid10 array [23:29] medium duty, with lots of RAM :P [23:29] ie the whole database will probably fit into ram [23:29] get an ssd drive then [23:29] you'll get the best of both worlds, reliability and performance [23:30] MLC SSDs have the same URE as a SATA drive [23:31] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:31] sata harddrive^ [23:31] i use 4 intel X25Vs in raid 0, so its not like im anti-ssd.. i was considering it, but hard drives are still cheaper [23:32] FrankD: zfs may be an option, if you need a certain level of guarantee. then again, it's not really an option for production linux [23:32] unless i had to go SAS for their increased URE.. in which case, MLC SSDs would be out of the game again, and id have to consider SLC SSDs [23:32] ZFS has CRC right? [23:32] FrankD: yep [23:32] ahh, not really working well in Linux? [23:33] FrankD: it's not part of linux [23:33] oh, i thought there was ZFS support, my bad [23:33] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:34] not official. there is fuse port, and there is unofficial kernel port. [23:34] hmm any other filesystems with CRC or some other kind of error checking? [23:34] i think the database engine should manage that [23:35] i don't know any db that could account for bitrot [23:36] ahh btrfs has support for CRC.. but iirc it also has some major problems with atomicity [23:36] and if you don't want to bet on raid6, i can't imagine you'd want to bet on btrfs [23:36] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [23:37] then again, i guess there would be problems with atomicity with the large buffers in the hard drives in the event of a power failure [23:37] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-142-9.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:37] if you're really concerned, get storage solution that utilizes battery backup [23:37] yeah [23:38] Hey, folks! [23:38] just trying to figure out what CAN be done on a budget, and what kind of drawbacks would have to be dealt with in any of the solutions [23:38] hey MLanden [23:38] 'lowered expectations'.... [23:38] howdy shonudo [23:39] of course, ideally itd be mirrored raid6 with small SAS drives or SLC SSDs [23:39] from the reliability standpoint [23:41] Mipsalawishus (~Mipsalawi@170.206.224.50) joined ##slackware. [23:41] jcn0 (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:43] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [23:44] Raggs (X@99-29-0-126.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:44] happy birthday rworkman [23:44] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: dormir [23:44] Mipsalawishus (~Mipsalawi@170.206.224.50) left irc: Client Quit [23:45] hmm i think i need a sandforce based SSD or 2 for my slack box [23:45] i need one of those great pcs i saw in fry's 7memory slots, i7 processor, liquid cooling system...etc [23:46] for $2000 [23:46] haha interesting [23:46] 7 memory slots, you say? [23:46] i think it was 8 you are right [23:46] i think the 7th one is one of those donut RAM strips [23:46] like a spare [23:47] hahaha [23:47] lol [23:47] should be 9 for an i7, no? [23:47] triple channel [23:47] or 6, more likely [23:47] it was definately more than 6 [23:47] 9 it is, then [23:48] ehh my phenom ii 940 is fast enough, i saw more of a difference going from a 7200rpm SATA drive to 4x intel x25vs than i did from an x2 5200+ to the 940 [23:48] i mean.. yeah, gaming performance improved some, but i dont play anything crazy enough that it made it any smoother, just bigger numbers for no reason :P [23:49] im all about wasting money on SSDs and as much RAM as possible lately.. and less so on CPU/GPUs :P [23:53] Sid (~Sid@pool-98-119-47-86.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: http://irc2go.com/ [23:55] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.19.245.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:00] --- Fri Aug 20 2010