[00:03] slackware ? Brasil ? [00:03] ... [00:03] Monkey_Php: zoo? cage? [00:03] #slackware-br [00:03] Monkey_Php: #slackware-br [00:03] ##slackware.br [00:04] oops [00:05] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [00:07] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-31-222.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:07] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [00:07] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-31-222.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:09] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:10] BP{k} chopp thanks ! =) [00:10] no problem, but mine was wrong was it not? [00:11] Yeah, but I was an asshole about it. :) [00:11] portugues ;/ [00:11] Monkey_Php: :) [00:11] he'll get over it. [00:15] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:16] pattwo (n=admin@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:19] clamav is pretty nice. i can use it to scan windows disks from my linux laptop [00:19] can't believe i actually sat through "the day the earth stood still" [00:19] Where do the changes made from wpa_gui go? IE if i add a network. They aren't being added to /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf. [00:20] i don't use wpa_gui [00:20] i just edit the files [00:20] Im not saying that i can't do that. Just curious really. [00:20] Monkey_Php (n=Monkey_P@189.104.57.84) left ##slackware. [00:25] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [00:26] nullboy: Not sure if you've been in this situation but if you have your lappy on, you take it with you and disconnect from your home wireless and go to work. Since it's still on, you go to work and resume from suspend. Will it auto connect to your work wireless or are you running something to the effect of, /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 wlan0_start ? [00:27] bono (i=bono@220-136-224-252.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:27] i just use /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 wlan0_restart [00:27] but that's only if it won't reconnect on its own [00:27] wpa_supplicant should rescan for APs when the interface comes back up [00:27] So technically it should reconnect since it exists in the wpa_supplicant.conf file. [00:27] yeah [00:28] *should* ;) [00:28] Heh. [00:28] is that a default setting in the .conf file? [00:28] that's just how wpa_supplicant works [00:28] wicd DOES reconnect on its own after being told [00:28] .... [00:28] i used wicd and i don't like wicd [00:28] nullboy: Ah, okay. just making sure. [00:29] wicd wouldn't let me have my wired and wireless interfaces connected to the same subnet at the same time. it was only one or the other [00:29] wicd can make wireless easy for some people who have troubles getting connected [00:30] wpa_supplicant makes it pretty darn easy though [00:30] some people don't have good luck from I have seen [00:30] nullboy++ [00:30] leon (n=leon@189.70.44.99) left irc: [00:30] I think i made it harder on myself because i thought that it was going to be harder.. [00:30] yep [00:30] wicd saves me from having to call wpa_supplicant manually. that's a huge plus. wlan0_start kept timing out no matter what i did [00:31] i don't call wpa_supplicant manually [00:31] the stock networking rc scripts handle it all [00:31] typically inet1 calls it, i think [00:31] yeah [00:32] i must've misconfigured something. though macavity had a look at my inet1.conf and wpa_suppicant.conf and was puzzled why wpa wasn't being called by the former. anyway, wicd works for me [00:33] WLAN_WPAWAIT[4]=15 [00:33] the secret arg [00:34] i tried that. you mentioned that last time [00:34] i played around w/the nubmers as well [00:34] no love [00:34] the plain networking scripts work perfect on my system [00:35] marc87 (n=alejandr@189.174.57.22) joined ##slackware. [00:36] heh i would actually prefer not having to run wicd [00:36] What is the maximum length for a group name? [00:39] Anyone? [00:40] 31 chars [00:40] try it [00:40] google it [00:41] seems like it less on slackware [00:42] it's 16 chars here [00:42] Luckily my new names will fit in 16 [00:42] U-Neeks (i=555@201-14-99-163.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:42] Will have busy day tomorrow. [00:42] Am moving internal IPs all around. [00:42] hrmn.. [00:43] I need to upgrade postfix me thinks [00:43] Right now, I'm moving the file server and re-structuring it. [00:43] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10426 [00:44] ya know if I could get people to use slackwaregallery.org as much as they do pastebin.slackadelic.com... [00:44] lol [00:44] i use slackadelic paste a lot [00:44] lot do [00:45] 10426 = clue [00:45] Anyone have space to start up a Slackware forum? [00:45] although.. I'm not sure how many of those are spam [00:45] Motoko-chan: yep [00:45] Action: Motoko-chan will happily configure it all. [00:45] mbhayes, want to go for it? [00:45] Motoko-chan: however.. linuxforums.net hosts the official one though I think [00:45] Well, lq sucks. [00:45] lol [00:45] what all would you need to get it started? [00:46] Space, bandwidth, and something running php. [00:46] 50 bucks cash and a six pack [00:46] you don't want my picture up there trust me [00:46] No stupid mod_security rules either. [00:46] Motoko-chan: hah no worries.. tell you what.. hit me up tomorrow.. I'm drunk right now.. so configuring anything server-side is a bad idea [00:46] Okay. [00:47] I mean, I have space, but it's on a fairly utilized T1 already. [00:47] how much space you talkin'? [00:47] because ti would be on a VPS.. with noq uotas.. [00:47] I think under 500 meg would be perfectly fine. I don't think there will be huge attachments. [00:47] although I'm sure I can trust you [00:47] Oh, MySQL too. [00:47] hehe [00:47] Yeah I have all that [00:47] I expect it'll be small. [00:47] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:47] I'll be using http://www.simplemachines.org/ [00:47] well if you're as good with slackware as you are postfix.. no worries [00:48] Hm? [00:48] Motoko-chan: this is Dominian btw .. name change :P [00:48] Ah. [00:48] hehe [00:48] I like to confuse people every so often [00:48] Fun. [00:49] like I said.. hit me up tomorrow sometime.. I'm pretty lit right now [00:49] Maybe I should use my alt on here. [00:49] I'm busy moving file server stuff and planning a huge IP change at work for tomorrow. [00:49] Who knows what you'd get if I configured ssh, a user account, mysql, apache, etc in this state [00:49] Motoko-chan: ok well we'll hit on it again soon then [00:49] haha [00:50] and the VPS bandwidth I have is... a lot :) [00:50] so I'm not worried about that [00:50] however, if disk I/O is an issue.. we would have a problem hehe [00:50] Ok. [00:50] I don't expect huge I/O. [00:50] SMF is a light system. [00:50] cool [00:50] Well, for the featureset. [00:50] I know one user with over 24m pageviews a month running on an old Celeron. [00:51] They are using nginx, mind, but still... [00:51] hehe [00:51] this'll work fine I'm sure [00:51] bono (i=bono@118-168-234-21.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:51] I don't think I ahve anything to worry about with Motoko-chan [00:52] however, I will have to warn you.. this VPS has been acting weird lately, but I think the issue was resolved.. i was working with the admin of the hardware.. rebooted everything yesterday.. seems to be a lot better lately.. something with the stupid hardware clock and the VPS it appears.. still uncertain though [00:52] Interesting [00:52] Motoko-chan: were you thinking to use a new domain or a sub domain of something on this box? [00:54] Doesn't matter much right now. [00:54] k [00:54] well you would have a choice. [00:54] If it gets popular, can move to a full domain. [00:54] At worst, I can subdomain off one of mine. [00:54] subdomain.slackadelic.com, subdomain.noobfarm.org, or subdomain.slackwaregallery.org lol [00:54] or whatever else you want [00:55] we'll get it sorted.. or someone else will pipe up and help yah [00:55] what is the motiviation behidn wanting another slackware forum if you dont' mind me asking? [00:56] Jackware (i=1000@201-75-26-129-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:57] Something devoted only to Slackware. [00:57] There was a discussion last night about it. [00:57] ahhhh [00:57] I was in bed then lol [00:57] And trying to make it become the official forums. [00:57] ahhhhhh [00:58] I thought LQ.net WAs the official forum? [00:58] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:58] i use LQ.net from time to time [00:58] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:58] It is. [00:59] But why use a general purpose place like that? [00:59] true [00:59] You could have forums.slaxer.com if you like. [01:00] I would use anything devoted entirely to Slackware only, with a *KISS* design for the site. No js/flash stuff. I have no problems with adverts, and I'd click (and buy if I need stuff) from a link to support. I'd like to see it work in links too. That's a major plus. [01:00] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [01:00] I bought printer supplies, even a psu thru phoronix just for that reason. the price was good, boom done. [01:01] Old_Fogie, I'd be using SMF. [01:01] It's a nice and clean system. [01:01] "SMF" ? [01:01] Good design internally. [01:01] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:01] http://www.simplemachines.org/ [01:01] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [01:01] For the forum software. [01:02] Motoko-chan, do they have a server up and running that web people can just log-in and type stupidness to see how the site works? Kind of like what egroupware does? [01:03] There is a demo site, but it's not the most maintained. [01:04] I believe http://demo.simplemachines.org/ [01:04] Ah, it's updated. [01:04] Oh, OpenID logins supported. [01:05] Use the pre-filled login to have access. [01:05] Motoko-chan, yes the site is navigable by links. See that's just great. [01:05] z [01:05] gah, fail [01:05] z=back in links heh [01:05] wow i didn't know opera wasn't GPL ... [01:05] guess i have ZERO reason to try it now [01:05] heh [01:05] Action: mbhayes slaps Soul_keeper [01:06] ? [01:06] Soul_keeper, yup, but they do use free software in the build of it [01:06] fail? [01:06] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:06] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [01:06] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) left irc: "Leaving" [01:06] at first i thought they were just another annoying website that hides their source, then i found out the worse truth [01:07] Old_Fogie, explain and if it is a legit bug, I'll make a report. [01:07] there are far worse truths, trust me :P [01:07] k bed time for me... night [01:07] Motoko-chan, no I typed here "z" and not in the terminal :D there's no bugs, that site seems good in links. very navigable. [01:07] okay. [01:07] Also, demo of the current "stable" edition at http://php.opensourcecms.com/scripts/details.php?scriptid=126 [01:08] Hopefully they didn't screw anything up on their install... [01:09] antler, like waking up naked next to bill gates ? [01:10] Motoko-chan, yea the later one is _very_ busy, but still seems to work [01:10] errr sandwiched between gates and jobs on a pink heart shaped bed ... [01:10] ewww [01:10] with empty cans of whip cream laying around ... [01:11] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:11] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [01:11] that's only bad if he's not slowly twirling the hairs around your belly button with his finger and saying 'is it my turn to make breakfast this time?' [01:13] antler: that sounds like the voice of experience talking. [01:13] hahaha [01:16] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:16] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [01:16] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Say good night to the bad guy." [01:18] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:18] omg i just met a female slacker. who is single. and hot. [01:18] quick get her pregnant [01:18] i just...thought I'd...lay that out there... [01:18] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [01:19] hah nix_chix0r give me a few hours. [01:19] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:19] duryodhan (n=devdatta@nat/yahoo/x-4744cbd0f9b1b5f5) joined ##slackware. [01:19] ...... [01:19] words fail here at the sadness of that. [01:20] stop dreadmming buddy [01:21] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:21] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [01:22] "a few hours" I can't do anything in a few hours anymore, /me goes back to his hole. [01:22] nix_chix0r, i thought you are already a preggo [01:23] edman007, i know i'm hot but i'm not single:P [01:23] nix_chix0r, you got married yet? [01:23] doh [01:23] hmm, we all are for the right price [01:23] /noexec_dirty_old_fogie.sh [01:23] sorry for above :) [01:23] not yet no [01:24] hahaha [01:24] nix_chix0r, then maybe you are single [01:24] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-154.dial.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:24] edman007, just because i don't have a piece of paper saying i'm not means i am [01:24] edman007, someone here said she only likes the gentoo guys, so he's outta luck [01:25] lol [01:25] wtf, i got an email- "have you ever seen the women from russia" [01:25] Upload speed: 121 KB/Sec, Time remaining: 5:49 minutes [01:25] woo hitting record [01:26] nix_chix0r, I get them too. So I'm testing my new theory to get them to stop sending me them emails, I click on them and waste their bandwith. Doesn't seem to be working, but I'm gonna keep trying. [01:26] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:26] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [01:26] why don't i get emails like that? [01:26] Old_Fogie: might now want to do that .. the links might contain malware sites [01:26] Old_Fogie, this is gmail i'm getting these. plus "cheap pills from canada" [01:27] riodeuno (i=cb9e5a96@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-78d4a91b1eb7b282) joined ##slackware. [01:27] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [01:27] riodeuno kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Sorry for banning all of mibbit.com, blame the trolls [01:27] edman007, try having a name like Old_Fogie at linuxquestions.org or other mailing lists, oh you'll get them. viagara..sialis...goes on n on. [01:27] rofl [01:28] Old_Fogie, hmm, i got accounts on things like that... [01:28] edman007, you best be on tomorrow in the day time. i'm gona stuck on bed rest again [01:28] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-141.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:28] maybe its because i'm not one of those repeat customers.... [01:28] bed rest? [01:29] nix_chix0r, i get up noon my time, and i'll be here until 4 or so... [01:29] i got to do random signals HW :( [01:29] my blood pressure is higher than they want it to be so they are trying to prevent preenclampsia or something [01:30] watch out! she is going to blow! [01:30] nix_chix0r, talk to them about the injection that prevents clotting the umbilical cord on mother side, fast! if you haven't. [01:30] i got yelled at for trying to pick up the house. i'm supposed to be in bed to keep my bp down and stress [01:30] Action: edman007 pictures the doctor taking the blood pressure, screaming, and running out [01:31] nix_chix0r, of course I'm being chicken little here, but you get my drift [01:31] nix_chix0r, if you need to clean you can come here can clean stuff...the bathroom always needs cleaning [01:31] g'ah well they had me on a fetal stress test monitoring thing for about 45minutes and i had to lay there and press a button everytime he kicks me. and that was like the whole duration [01:31] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:31] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [01:31] abing (n=abing@218.94.136.171) joined ##slackware. [01:31] so every week i go in to do that [01:32] nix_chix0r, taking aspirin at all? [01:32] nope [01:32] nix_chix0r, are you annoying him already? [01:32] edman007, i think we are both annoying each other [01:32] nix_chix0r, man get another doctor's opinin. if your BP is up you really want that down to where it need be, not just rest imo. [01:33] Old_Fogie, always worried about the BP huh? [01:33] well for the longest time my bp was 120/60 , last week it was 122/66 this week it was 117/70 [01:33] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:33] it's still with in normal guidelines but she doesn't want it to go much higher [01:33] edman007, with preggi's yeah sure you gotta. I've known a few complications for friedns and family in my years with that. its' a big deal. [01:33] uh that sounds about normal... [01:34] oh and if any one has to do the group b strep test it's hillarious [01:34] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:34] they make you give it to yourself. it's not like the normal throat swabbing [01:35] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [01:35] firebird619 (n=jeremy@173-17-137-255.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [01:35] gota drop the pants and swab around the butthole:p [01:36] nix_chix0r, whatch it that's a few people's hilight word here :) [01:36] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:36] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [01:36] someone say butthole? [01:37] did they change something in FF 3.0.6 to where libjavaplugin.so don't get detected when in /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.6/plugins ? [01:37] hahaha see! :) [01:37] ewww [01:39] ok creating a link fixed it [01:39] that's always been the case ... [01:40] great 3.0.6 seems more stable :) [01:41] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:41] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [01:42] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [01:43] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-177-112.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:43] codeine cough syrup! [01:43] i haz a cough [01:46] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:46] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [01:48] Morning (or afternoon or evening),ladies and gentlemen [01:49] hologram (n=hologram@ip68-228-57-91.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:50] pattwo (n=admin@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [01:51] why tha heck are there 31 cd isos for debian? sheesh [01:51] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:51] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [01:52] 31? [01:53] yeah there are 31 [01:53] adding together for each arch [01:53] debian supports many archs though [01:53] do [01:53] doh! [01:53] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:54] Action: Motoko-chan is currently using Debian on an AlphaServer [01:54] i have debian installed on a sun v120 [01:54] Motoko-chan, I've been running lenny on a test partition for a while, but since this week, it's running like heck. won't poweroff, just hangs at umount the file systems n such. very odd [01:55] lenny was good til' this past week [01:55] Old_Fogie, debian must be the perfect distro for you, no upgrades since you started using it huh? [01:56] I'm hoping to use it as a base to build a Slackware port. [01:56] Someday when I actually have time... [01:56] edman007, I don't follow you [01:56] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:56] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [01:56] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:56] Old_Fogie, it's a joke about Debian being "stable" [01:57] Old_Fogie, its got the same stuff since when you started using it [01:57] that debian-stable stuff is a joke, its not stable, most of the stuff in it is past the EOL [01:57] Motoko-chan, edman007 ah yea right. there were a few looking at the logs. firefox is giving some odd errors to. [01:58] edman007, that's what makes it stable! [01:58] No updates! [01:58] I just follow debian so as to give to family members who dont live near by. but lenny is just not there yet. printing is still broke in hplip , plus these new error [01:58] Motoko-chan, yes, but it does not work with anything either [01:59] U-Neeks (i=555@201-14-99-163.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [01:59] Sure it does! [01:59] Motoko-chan, i have seen so many people install debian-stable and then ask why their video card won't work [01:59] Itself! [01:59] What, you want to run new unstable hardware? [02:00] edman007, actually etch ran quite well for the pc's I put it on few years ago. they're still running. but I really have some fears about lenny right now. no way I'm rolling this out any time soon [02:00] U-Neeks (i=555@201-14-99-163.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:00] then again, I can't roll out Slack 12.2 either for that matter [02:01] Old_Fogie, yes, but latest stable is suppose to mean that its the code that has gone through the full testing process, it shouldn't mean that its so old they stopped fixing it, and that third party things stopped supporting it [02:02] edman007, no argument there [02:02] well i'm going to go, bye [02:02] k night [02:03] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [02:03] xkaliber (n=dexter@gateway.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [02:03] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. 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[02:14] heh [02:17] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [02:19] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:19] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [02:21] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-177-112.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [02:23] pilipo (n=pilipo@122.55.51.202) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:24] pilipo (n=pilipo@122.55.51.202) joined ##slackware. [02:26] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:26] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [02:30] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [02:30] Which comic? [02:30] http://www.sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2009-02-19.gif [02:31] pilipo (n=pilipo@122.55.51.202) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:33] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:33] lol [02:36] renew_01 (n=renew@adsl-68-127-175-85.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:36] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:36] fserve (n=gbs@201008190094.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [02:37] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:38] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-141.dial.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:38] a fire of AIDS? [02:38] That's fail. [02:38] worse than just a fire [02:39] I prefer this statement: http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8500/shiroupeopledieiftheyarhe1.jpg [02:39] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:40] U-Neeks_ (i=555@200-96-137-133.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:40] heh [02:41] blinding flash of the obvious [02:42] fserve (n=gbs@201008190094.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [02:42] Maybe not... 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[03:52] so, what am I doing wrong here: I enable imaps in inetd.conf, restart inetd, yet looking at logs, the server does not advertise STARTTLS [03:52] if i start `imapd -s` manually, it advertises STARTTLS [03:54] ie line from inetd.conf is `imaps stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/imapd imapd` [03:54] you havent tos]ld it you want "-s" [03:54] freebse (n=freebse@a89-183-22-209.net-htp.de) joined ##slackware. [03:54] it won't run if i arbitratily throw in a -s in inetd.conf [03:55] that's what the imaps in the front is supposed to do [03:56] all youve done is create an imap entry in inetd with the label imaps [03:56] and it would be nice if i could skip inetd altogether and start the imapd in rc.local. But I read on the internets that that wont do because imapd is expecting to read stdin and stdout to/from the network [03:56] it depends on your imap server [03:56] slack 12.2 uw-imapd [03:57] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:57] sorry [03:57] my bad [03:57] your doing what the docs say [03:57] *you're [03:58] yeah it's freaking me out man [03:58] :) [03:58] so as it turns out I'm serving plain auth on port 993 [03:59] screw it.. use dovecot instead :) [03:59] i considered that [03:59] but this should be easy [03:59] freebse2 (n=freebse@a89-183-22-209.net-htp.de) joined ##slackware. [03:59] freebse (n=freebse@a89-183-22-209.net-htp.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:59] *nod* [04:00] been a long time since i set up uw-imap [04:00] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-331971.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:00] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:00] im afraid my only useful contribution is that dovecot installed via sbopkg with all default config will be quicker than working out what's wrong with UW [04:01] sbopkg is foreign to me [04:01] fserve (n=gbs@201008190094.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [04:01] Action: Zordrak beats you around the face with something heavy [04:01] ah a packing tool? [04:01] not quite [04:02] oh gawd [04:02] a tool to help speed up use of Slackbuilds from slackbuilds.org [04:02] SlackBuildOrgpkg [04:02] duh [04:03] however you do it.. the SBo Dovecot is the way to go [04:04] reaver___ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:05] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [04:05] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:05] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [04:06] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:06] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [04:07] Carrier-Freq: you know you should not irc as root right? [04:08] The failbus gets earlier every day [04:08] Action: Zordrak sets mode +b *!root@* [04:08] looks like it full of mibbit now. [04:09] test [04:09] freebse2 (n=freebse@a89-183-22-209.net-htp.de) left irc: Client Quit [04:09] freebse (n=freebse@a89-183-22-209.net-htp.de) joined ##slackware. [04:10] http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/08/27/never-irc-as-root/ [04:13] m4dscientist (n=hostile@141.85.0.66) joined ##slackware. [04:13] did anybody here ever install jhandles in octave? [04:14] i'm asking it here because there's silence on #octave and #math-software [04:14] and because i'm using slackware [04:17] sbopkg can't just download the tgz from sbo? [04:17] it has to build? [04:18] m4dscientist: is it maybe included in the octave-forge package at SBo? [04:18] erm nvm [04:18] sbo? [04:18] what's sbo? (sry if i'm dumb) [04:18] slackbuilds.org [04:18] 10x [04:18] i'll look it up [04:18] noobish: it's got 'build' in it's name for a reason :) [04:18] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/academic/octave-forge/ [04:19] yeah no shit, i was thinking of linuxpackages [04:19] .net [04:19] sbo doesn't host tgz's [04:20] the ECHOs in the room are giving me shivers [04:20] noobish: just read the faq at SBo you'll be fine. [04:20] im done [04:20] and linuxpackages is nasty. [04:20] aye it is [04:20] brb irrsi not listening [04:20] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [04:21] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:24] wow dovecot package is smart, where the hell did it slurp the ssl keyfiles from; apache? [04:26] actually it's not good, because it used an older key set [04:26] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [04:26] then updatem [04:27] no i mean apache is already using the new keys [04:27] meh [04:27] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:27] so where did dovecot get the instructions to use the previous ones [04:27] probably some /tmp/get-keys-from-russia.sh file I'd presume :) [04:28] noobish: remember.. the SBo is just an automated source compile [04:29] they're people too darn it! :) [04:29] noobish: you *could* just paste the lines one at a time for the same result [04:29] right i was just hoping your infinite experience with dovecot might spring the answer quicker then me looking at the source [04:29] c0vert (n=ryan@bas3-barrie18-1279547584.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [04:29] so if it does something you dont expect check the configure options set in the SBo and compare to the source documentation [04:30] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-177-112.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:32] i'm not concerned with dovecot, I can change the keys easily enough in the conf. I'm concerned that something else in the system I'm not aware of is using the old key [04:33] your system... you tell us :)) [04:35] slKIvs (n=slKIvs@52.126.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Client Quit [04:39] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-177-112.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [04:40] reaver___ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [04:43] []cipher (n=cipher@41.252.58.50) joined ##slackware. [04:43] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.19.138) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:49] Kerio2004 (n=Port@77.64.41.178) joined ##slackware. [04:49] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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[05:52] spook: same answer [05:52] Urchlay: yep, that's true [05:52] thanks [05:52] Zordrak: i'm not sure where to start though :P its nothing that cosine rule can deal with [05:53] spook: just make sure the trajctories are not parallel [05:53] amoc (n=user@221.133.168.3) joined ##slackware. [05:53] be: i need the objects to co-exist. i'm trying to make a leading shot on a moving object at long range [05:54] spook: it's one of those things your brain does that seems easy to do but hard to describe, I think [05:54] spook, #math [05:54] #trig [05:54] #skeet-shooting? [05:54] robocode [05:54] #anywhere_else_but_here [05:54] :) [05:55] Action: Urchlay misses his channel that was called #!/usr/bin/perl [05:55] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.13) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:55] is there a nice hack to gzip data before scp'ing it ? [05:56] Urchlay: mwahahahah [05:56] scp -z3? [05:56] Action: Zordrak now owns #!/usr/bin/perl [05:56] no [05:56] Zordrak: *shrug* I wasn't going to revive it on freenode anyway [05:57] cant you pass -C to it? [05:57] duryodhan: scp -C appears to work [05:57] also some way to use -O CompressionLevel somethingeranother [05:57] ohh .. [05:58] I remember reading somewhere that we shouldn't use that .. (some X11forwarding people had said that about using with ssh -X ) [05:58] I didn't know it used gzip [05:58] Action: duryodhan needs to RTFM [05:58] there is that :) [05:59] Action: Zordrak wishes he wasnt doing the initial rsync of a whole server (w/ FTP dirs) over a tinterlink [05:59] Zordrak: on undernet, it took ages to register #!/usr/bin/perl because their web site kept rejecting it due to an "invalid character" in the channel name [06:00] yeah as I thought .. I did a gzip and transferred the file .. took 4 secs + gzip time (1 sec max) ... and scp -C took 12 secs .. without C and without gzip .. 15 secs [06:01] mindbendr (n=neveraga@host86-133-198-234.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [06:01] hm. So "scp -C" took 3x as long as "gzip file; scp file.gz ..."? [06:05] amazon10x (i=amazon10@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-96027c9c9af325d7) joined ##slackware. [06:08] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.67.229) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:14] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@acld177.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:18] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [06:18] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [06:19] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.89) joined ##slackware. [06:22] Urchlay: yeah [06:22] daedra (n=daedra@75-142-119-235.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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[07:00] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [07:00] JavaShin (n=JavaShin@unaffiliated/javashin) joined ##slackware. [07:06] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:08] Nick change: []cipher -> [cipher] [07:12] JavaShin (n=JavaShin@unaffiliated/javashin) left irc: "Saliendo" [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-68-147.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-0-21.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:18] hmmm, ubuntu 9.04 should boot fast... http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=ubuntu_904_speed&image=ubuntu_904speed_904_lrg [07:18] why do I sense it's not going to actually ? :p [07:20] QWonder (n=QW@c-71-203-15-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:20] smeding_ (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:20] smeding_ (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:20] lionping (n=itsme@cm.mpi.univie.ac.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:21] ohhh intel atom ... [07:21] ok, their disk can read at at least 100MB/s, mine can only do 50MB/s, next time I benchmark for boot time, I'll use a ramdrive :) [07:21] sree|0x0 (n=zeroXzer@61.17.226.84) joined ##slackware. [07:21] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [07:21] Kjelle_ (i=kjellkod@cpe-217-208-253-54.it-roteln.narkotikapolisen.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:22] and I think they tried several boots and took the fastest : hwclock returns *really* fast ;) [07:22] sQuEE (n=narya@host211.201-253-131.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [07:22] sQuEE (n=narya@host211.201-253-131.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [07:22] figures [07:23] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@61.17.226.84) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:24] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Client Quit [07:25] oh and well, the "new" version should boot in 20 seconds while the old one booted in 25 seconds [07:25] imagine how fast it would boot if they used kernel 2.2.x [07:25] from my experience it rather booted in >45 seconds so the new version shouldn't boot in less than 35 seconds anyway ;p [07:26] amoc (n=user@221.133.168.3) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:28] Kerio2004 (n=Port@77.64.41.178) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:28] Kerio2004 (n=Port@78.93.68.185) joined ##slackware. [07:29] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-238c308e8691f50b) joined ##slackware. [07:30] Camarade_Tux, Master of Quick Boot [07:32] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:32] the part I really suck at is X [07:32] otoh it's not my fault X polls 100 000 times for the time when starting >< [07:33] many apps do that [07:34] that many time ? [07:34] not quite that often, but a lot [07:36] from what I've read newer versions of x-server should improve that [07:37] (win7 wants a primary partition to install its boot files, iirc XP could boot from an extended one) [07:43] tribeca (n=vedo@host162-103-static.20-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:46] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.112) joined ##slackware. [07:46] Good `date +%r` [07:48] godd `ddate +%H`, Khratos [07:50] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [07:53] JavaShin (n=JavaShin@unaffiliated/javashin) joined ##slackware. [07:54] Dadsy (n=Dad`@85-170-152-187.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:57] Camarade_Tux, I'm pretty sure Windows XP can only boot from primary partitions. [07:57] well, I need to do more tests [07:58] good afternoon. [08:01] Dad` (n=Dad`@85-170-152-187.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [08:02] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [08:06] JavaShin (n=JavaShin@unaffiliated/javashin) left irc: "Saliendo" [08:10] hi stybla [08:15] xkaliber (n=dexter@gateway.geodesic.com) left irc: "Leaving" [08:16] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:16] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [08:20] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [08:21] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.67.229) joined ##slackware. [08:22] JavaShin (n=JavaShin@unaffiliated/javashin) joined ##slackware. [08:22] ccfreak2k, seems to be confirmed by some docs [08:23] anyway, can I put a primary partition after an extended one ? I thought about something like [primary][extended][primary] [08:23] Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:26] i'm not sure, but there is nothing wrong with it. [08:26] Fogie, you look younger today somehow :-) [08:26] james__ (n=benjsh@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:26] hi [08:27] gah! didn't knw i had irssi in screen :) [08:27] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [08:27] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [08:27] I get this error: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot handle TLS data how can I fix it I already copy a libstdc++.so.6 and libstdc++.so.6.0.8 to /usr/lib but still problem. Can someone please help me? [08:27] Action: Fogie boobfarm.org's himself on that one, lol, ty dive :) [08:27] :-) [08:28] Nick change: Fogie -> Old_Fogie [08:28] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:28] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [08:29] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:29] huh, must've had two passes on the fail bus there [08:31] JavaShin (n=JavaShin@unaffiliated/javashin) left irc: "Saliendo" [08:33] james__: how about telling us more about your issue instead of copying random files? [08:34] like..what app you're running..what distro...what you're trying to do [08:34] gbowden (n=gbowden@115.Red-81-37-201.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. 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[08:38] sbo doesnt list any deps for it [08:39] it can take some other gnome stuff, but it can be gnome free (gtk only) as well [08:39] ah, ok [08:39] gonna try it [08:40] I really don't notic anything diff to be honest, except the help works in gnome, not in gtk. Other than that, a quick look at building both ways, I really didnt see anything [08:40] but there's a pdf help manual [08:40] sounds good [08:40] thx a lot [08:40] altho I really like umbrello [08:40] also, openoffice is pretty good at making diagrams too [08:40] eh, I could use eclipse then [08:40] part of why I like umbrello is its light memory footprint [08:41] oh? I never tried taht one before. [08:41] eclipse? [08:41] yup, never used it [08:41] I'll check it out, who knows [08:41] its actually an java ide [08:41] eclipse is slow . i don't use it [08:41] but it has plugins for everything under the sun [08:41] oh java, no thanks :) [08:41] heh, "sun" :) [08:41] heh [08:42] i like netbeans for my php ide [08:42] non intentionally puns ftw [08:42] hee hee [08:42] eclipse has some advantages [08:43] but I dont like it that much [08:43] I've been meaning to try Eclipse out, our uni introduced Java with BlueJ, and I honestly hate it. Plus it has an android plugin :p [08:43] But mostly I've just been avoiding Java except for project work, which works as well [08:43] same for me :) [08:44] avoid java [08:44] why slackware upgrade slow this days !! [08:45] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@acld177.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:45] the interwebs broke [08:45] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) joined ##slackware. [08:48] no erm in dia :( [08:49] or eer [08:51] well, I guess I could use mysql workbench [08:52] Old_Fogie, dia looks nice, but its not what I need right now. I like some of the sheets they have, tho. that will come in handy [08:53] slackytude, ah ok. sorry wasnt what you need, but good to have in the toolbox forsure. [08:54] superGear (n=supergea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:55] gah, workbench cant do inheritance either [08:55] superGear (n=supergea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:57] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-86-78.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:59] Camarade_Tux (n=Camarade@AMontsouris-158-1-86-78.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:59] gbowden (n=gbowden@115.Red-81-37-201.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:00] slackytude: have you tried kivio - its part of koffice. [09:01] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aclb19.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:01] odraw [09:01] oodraw [09:02] be, gonna check it out [09:03] don't expect it to be more powerful than dia, though ;) [09:03] ggy (n=ggy@59.72.110.45) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [09:03] be, close but no cigar [09:03] be, thx, tho [09:09] KillerV (i=1000@bhe201062186041.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:09] Man-erg (n=meck@85-18-136-67.fastres.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:12] marinalex (n=akhvatov@mail2.maned.com) joined ##slackware. [09:13] marinalex (n=akhvatov@mail2.maned.com) left ##slackware. [09:13] Old_Fogie: Hey, did you have to tweak much to get the sound to work on your acer? I have a feeling that my asound.state is missing some controls because all i have is master and pcm. Sound only works if i plug in headphones. Any idea's? [09:15] agentc0re, no I've never had to do anything, but I do notice the sound is lower than if I'm in windows. [09:15] duryodhan (n=devdatta@nat/yahoo/x-4744cbd0f9b1b5f5) left irc: "Leaving." [09:15] maybe there is something I'm just not really aware of? dunno. I mean I can play ogg's, etc sounds fine. [09:16] agentc0re, is it the intel hd audio one? [09:16] Yup, hda-intel [09:17] hmmm, you know, do an lspci on it, and check the gentoo/arch/debian wiki's. see if it matches up. who knows, maybe they have some oddball rev of the chipset? I say that, because they did that on my wired nic. It's not "really" an r8169 , but linux see's it that way. [09:18] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-331971.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:18] it wasn't until 2.6.27 that the wired nic issue's really settled down [09:18] under /etc/modprobe.d/sound i've added "options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba/acer-aspire/acer (only one at a time). didn't seem to do anything though. [09:19] did you run 'alsaconf' as root? [09:19] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-331971.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:19] Old_Fogie: I did. [09:21] I dont have one near me here, and I'm strapped to the desk here. Later on tonight I can pastebin my lspic for you. [09:21] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.58.50) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:22] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [09:26] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.67.229) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:29] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:30] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:32] tif (n=root@axv37.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:33] tif (n=root@axv37.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Client Quit [09:34] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:37] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [09:39] aperturefever` (n=abell@athedsl-195912.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[10:06] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:07] evo- (n=evo@p4FD4C9AE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:13] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-199.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:14] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-199.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:16] lol : http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/2760/1234385828419xd8.jpg [10:16] (crap, I'm a Windows Fag ;p ) [10:17] :o [10:18] I mean, according to the picture ;) [10:18] oh shite i'm a windows fag too [10:19] JerrySabor (n=user@63-149-142-34.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: "Blank" [10:20] nee-chan (n=Mantosky@82-171-26-177.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:20] well, partly linux. with the pics about ms and steve :) [10:20] hehe, same here ;) [10:20] james__ (n=benjsh@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) left irc: [10:20] I don't like the linux linux fag picture, the screen is too bright to be read in the dark ;p [10:21] Camarade_Tux: It's a metaphorical light. [10:21] ... So wait. According to that picture, if i am a linux fag, all the win fag's are the ones fucking me in the ass? [10:22] agentc0re, no, you think windows user are getting fucked by MS ;) [10:22] No, but Microsoft is trying to. [10:22] jkwood, still too bright :p [10:22] agentc0re: if you're a linux fag, you view winfags as being as raped by MS [10:22] according to the graph [10:23] well yes you do :) [10:24] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:26] tcanich (n=tcanich@server2.photoexpo.com) joined ##slackware. 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[10:38] in fact, XP installed its boot manager but couldn't boot for some reason, but then I made win7 install his own boot manager which manages to boot XP :) [10:39] I just said "starting" because windows installation is usually : boot on CD (setup copies files, install bootmgr), setup reboots on the newly installed system and continues installation ; that last step was obviously not possible since it didn't boot on the fresh system [10:40] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:40] ohh i see [10:41] next step is to finish win7's installation and then install a *nix and grub to check if everything still boots [10:42] nee-chan (n=Mantosky@82-171-26-177.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:42] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:44] noped (n=daniel@c9511e5e.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:45] watched #debian for like 10 mins, they discuss such lame questions omg [10:45] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:45] Action: Camarade_Tux joins #debian [10:46] "what file is the log file" [10:46] omg [10:48] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [10:48] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [10:49] i really like ubuntu's "shell for dummies" -- the program foo is currently not installed but you can install it with the following command: ...... [10:49] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [10:49] probably for such a great package repo this was the only choice [10:50] slava_dp, and if some script checks for a program or tries to run it, it will happily fail :) [10:50] has anyone installed solaris in qemu? Having some problems.. [10:52] first time it just got stuck in a loop of errors and sat there resetting pci device [10:54] dive, why not virtualbox& [10:55] I've heard it also had problems [10:55] vmware ftw [10:55] dive, virtualbox is sun-backed it should work better [10:55] I'm build qemu from svn at the moment because I read there were some improvements [10:55] (and they've commited loooots of solaris-related fixes) [10:56] I will have a look at those thanks [10:56] Benjsh (n=benjsh@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:56] Hi i got a laptop with 160 gig vista i want to split to 80/80 gig and put slack 12.2 on the other partition what is easiest way to do it? [10:56] nee-chan (n=Mantosky@82-171-26-177.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:56] gparted ftw [10:57] gparted [10:57] gparted-live ;) [10:57] Benjsh, get yourself a System Rescue CD. It's only 250M and has gparted and lots of other tools. it's a live cd. [10:58] i just boot slack 12.2 cd 1 and then i just type gparted? [10:58] Benjsh: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-gparted-to-resize-your-windows-vista-partition/ [10:58] thx [10:58] np [10:59] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:00] I just use Slackware's fdisk, then install Windows XP Pro and Slackware. [11:00] Vista == major suckage [11:01] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Connection timed out [11:02] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [11:02] Alan_Hicks: agreed [11:03] hmm the SBo pages for virtualbox ose and ose addons are link to the same source package! [11:04] dive: yep; download it once and then hardlink it. [11:04] i see [11:04] That's not unusual. Uncommmon, but not unusual. [11:04] fserve (n=gbs@201008190094.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:04] madwifi-driver and madwifi-tools use the same source package as well. [11:04] and nvidia [11:04] (baaaah !) 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[11:39] i boot up my eeepc in about 10 [11:40] noped (n=daniel@c9511e5e.virtua.com.br) left irc: "Read error: 8 + 0 = -9 (Connection reset by third grade math)" [11:40] i boot my machine in 45 seconds [11:40] Theorem: a cat has nine tails. [11:40] Proof:No cat has eight tails. A cat has one tail more than no cat. Therefore, a cat has nine tails. [11:41] <3 fortune [11:41] i like that logic there [11:41] :) [11:41] <3 mathematics and logic [11:43] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn201.78-99-10.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [11:44] RaNdY (n=randy@unaffiliated/randy) left irc: [11:44] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:44] where the fudge did i put those backups [11:46] noped (n=noped@c9511e5e.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:49] Kerio2004 (n=Port@78.93.68.185) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:49] aha! found you [11:49] Kerio2004 (n=Port@78.93.68.185) joined ##slackware. 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[12:37] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-117-255.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [12:38] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-117-255.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: SendQ exceeded [12:38] nukedclx_ (n=nukedclx@aes140.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:39] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-117-255.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [12:40] cipher (n=cipher@41.252.13.52) joined ##slackware. [12:40] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Connection reset by peer [12:41] nvision (n=nvision@g229120129.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:42] imexius_ (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [12:42] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] Gah, this sound problem is driving me nuts! I am probably going to have to upgrade to a newer version of Alsa. :( gah. [12:43] uhh why? [12:44] Well i've been googling a lot about it. I've noticed a trend that if my codec is Realtek ID 272 that the alsa version i have doesn't really support my sound card all that well. [12:45] what doea codec have to do with alsa...? [12:46] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aclb19.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:46] katerkarlo (n=zaphod@dtmd-4db789a4.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [12:47] This is information that's outputed by alsa itself. Basically it's saying it doesn't recognize my sound card very well. Codec/Chip (i've seen it referred to in the same sense when talking about alsa problems.) [12:47] so replace codec with chip. It'll make more sense. [12:47] mwnn (n=user@59.92.193.2) joined ##slackware. [12:48] Hi, Is there any tutorial out there that explains the usage of slacktrack? I tried googling, but could not find any. [12:48] What's even more strange is that the headset jack works. Speakers do not. I have very few options in alsamixer. Master and Digital. [12:48] I am trying to build a slackpkg of emacs-23 [12:48] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:48] katerkarlo (n=zaphod@dtmd-4db789a4.pool.einsundeins.de) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:50] mbhayes: You can see this on yours by viewing alsamixer and whatever shows up as chip or "cat /proc/asound/codec* | head" [12:50] mwnn, you could use the standard slackbuild script from installation disk and edit it to fit your source version [12:50] or alternatively there is src2pkg [12:50] Can i get src2pkg on the slackware DVD [12:51] no [12:51] google it [12:51] dive: ok [12:51] dive: which one would you suggest: slacktrack or src2pkg? [12:51] I've never used slacktrack so can't comment on that [12:52] I use src2pkg quite a lot though [12:52] dive: ok [12:52] kamaji_ (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:52] nukedclx_ (n=nukedclx@aes140.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) got netsplit. 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[12:56] Nick change: renew_01 -> renew [12:56] mbhayes: I was also probably going to compile a newer kernel as well. [12:56] I think i'd stick with the kernel for now... [12:56] mbhayes: Have you played around with any of the newer ones? [12:56] what chipset is the sound card again? [12:56] agentc0reWORK: nope [12:57] uhmz. nice netsplit [12:57] might be why my irssi was lagging [12:57] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Operation timed out [12:57] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-117-255.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Connection timed out [12:58] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) got lost in the net-split. [12:58] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) got lost in the net-split. [12:58] mwnn, also before using src2pkg and after installing it edit /etc/src2pkg/src2pkg.conf and comment out the 'quiet=no' line [12:58] C00re: your client was not lagging you were one of the ones that got cut off until the netsplit was over :) [12:58] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-117-255.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [12:58] something was lagging... [12:58] couldnt type much.. [12:58] the earth slowed down [12:58] ah [12:58] the day earth stood still [12:59] Superman was making a pass [12:59] mbhayes: I'm not sure exactly since it's not reporting it correctly. However it is an Intel 81801G rev 02 card. [12:59] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:00] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [13:03] lw0x15_ (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:03] agentc0reWORK: I would look at the mobo manual and try to find out [13:05] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:05] dive: src2pkg worked like magic. However i got a warning message saying that the package has to be built as the root user [13:06] KillerV (i=1000@bhe201062186041.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:06] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [13:06] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [13:07] bughunter2 (n=j@77.164.66.126) joined ##slackware. [13:08] mwnn, it is usually best to do it as root (read up a bit). As root issue 'src2pkg -C -REAL ' [13:08] dive: thanks! [13:09] mwnn, also read up where I mentioned editing the config file [13:09] if you comment it out (remove the #) it will display all configure and make messaged [13:09] s/messaged/messages [13:10] what's the best way to get libjasper include files on my slackware box? [13:10] dive: yes, you are right. I need to see the compilation as it happens [13:10] they're not there by default it seems, garnome can't find 'm [13:10] mbhayes: I'm at work and don't have the manual it came with, online manuals didn't show anything either. I'm sure it's a realtek chipset, it just doesn't know which one. What did you have in mind if we the the exact one? [13:11] ah wait, slackbuilds got it [13:11] agentc0reWORK: make sure that the kernel you're running supported that chipset properly [13:14] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:14] fwiw i am running slack 12.2 huge-smp vanilla. [13:15] nick (n=nick@69.17.57.162) joined ##slackware. [13:16] Nick change: nick -> Guest87990 [13:16] agentc0reWORK, have you compiled the out-tree alsa packages before? [13:16] no. I was just planning on downloading the latest and using the slackbuilds found in source. what is the out-tree? [13:16] well, from alsa.com [13:17] you will need recompile the kernel first and set sound support on but uncheck both alsa and oss support [13:18] I used to run them when I got my audigy some years ago [13:19] it's fine but whenever you recompile the kernel you will need to installpkg alsa again [13:20] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:20] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [13:21] leptom (n=leptom@13.Red-83-37-217.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving. Bye, bye!"). [13:23] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-a492e27a9ec58fe1) left irc: [13:23] hitest_ (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:04] Hmm...its arny [14:07] loads of finds on google for that card - what is the version of latest alsa? [14:10] JerrySabor (n=root@38.100.155.122) joined ##slackware. [14:10] most of those links seem to be old versions [14:10] maybe the latest will work [14:10] wazzup straterra ? :) [14:11] only way is to try them [14:11] Nothing.. [14:11] anyone know where i can found SWAT for slackware [14:11] SWAT for samba ;) [14:11] dive: i'm working on that right now.\ [14:11] umm install samba [14:12] cipher, it's included [14:12] swat!! [14:12] not samba [14:12] cipher: yes liek I said install samba it's has swat [14:12] swat is already installed [14:12] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:12] If you have samba installed.. swat is there [14:12] I had the broadcom tg3 driver built in to my kernel, and my eth0 was not showing up. I remade the kernel with the tg3 driver as a module, and now it works/shows up. here i am. What am I missing? [14:12] grep swat /etc/inetd.conf iirc [14:12] why do people think they are seperate? [14:12] maybe it's a Ubuntu ideal or osmething [14:13] hrm maybe not inetd.conf [14:13] you have to add it to inetd.conf but it is installed though [14:13] JerrySabor: I've found that things like network cards work much better when they are modules.. why that is.. I don't have a good answer for [14:13] thanks folks [14:15] Everything in inetd.conf is commented out except comsat and auth. I didnt really make any changes, it just came up DHCP on reboot w/ the driver compiled as a module. [14:15] I don't use modules..at all [14:15] eth0 doesnt even show up if i build it into the kernel. ifconfig -a only shows lo [14:16] yeah some things are like that [14:16] heh [14:16] mostly seems to network drivers too [14:16] hrad (n=hrad___@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) joined ##slackware. [14:16] straterra: are your network cards on-board ? [14:16] No [14:17] I think what I've seen is that if its onboard.. compile it as a module.. [14:17] I've had those issues with something not working while in-kernel.. build as module.. works fine.. dunno why [14:19] how can I scroll in less, more or man ? I mean mouse scrolling [14:20] any suggestion ? [14:20] Don't think you can. [14:21] so the way this is done in suse or ubuntu is too complicated ? [14:21] No, more than likely they patch more/less/man or they are using a different viewer like most [14:21] or mc [14:21] mbhayes, ok, thank you [14:22] man uses less or more or most depending on what you set [14:22] and it seems lazy if you want to use mouse scrolling just for less/more/most [14:22] kitche, I need it mainly in less [14:23] Well, the comparison of Ubuntu/Suse to Slackware is a bit irritating too ;) [14:23] What you call a "feature" we call overkill ;) [14:23] kitche, and yes, I am lazy :) [14:24] Xaviertoor (n=xavierto@189-015-133-144.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:24] PAGER is the shell environment variable man looks at for the pager [14:25] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:25] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:25] Ringo48 (n=Ringo48@c-75-70-128-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:27] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:27] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:33] Anyone use slapt-get or swaret? [14:34] gento0o0o0 (n=rafa@189-68-139-247.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:34] gento0o0o0 (n=rafa@189-68-139-247.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [14:35] no [14:35] slackpkg [14:35] slapt-get and swaret are evil [14:35] many use slackpkg now on generic slackware [14:36] So how do you handle programs that are not included in the slackware repo? Do you create a slackware package for it, then install it ? [14:38] nee-chan1 (n=Mantosky@82-171-26-177.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Connection timed out [14:38] JerrySabor: slackbuilds.org [14:38] utilize sbopkg and you're set [14:39] JerrySabor preferred is Slackbuilds. You can always compile yourself from source. rpm2tgz is one way, but not really recommended. If there is source, it's better to do it yourself unless there is a slackbuild. [14:41] eddief2 (n=eddie@68.160.228.155) joined ##slackware. [14:41] i see... reading [14:41] rg3 (n=rg3@62.32.133.196) joined ##slackware. [14:41] o/ [14:45] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [14:45] Xaviertoor (n=xavierto@189-015-133-144.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:46] g'day [14:49] hey NyteOwl, how's the great white north ? [14:49] a bit cool. They're forcasting snow for tonight and freezing rain tomorrow. [14:49] I'm getting tired of winter [14:50] My driveway looks like a small glacier this year. I haven'ty seen this much ice in it since I was a kid [14:50] indeed - we're to get snow too, I believe (MN, your slightly-southerly cousin) :) [14:50] global warming BAH! [14:50] hey, I want me some of that.... [14:50] I was born in Alexandria :p [14:50] bughunter2 (n=j@77.164.66.126) left ##slackware. [14:50] aha - I know the town well :) [14:51] KSTP [14:51] my father was teaching in St Cloud at the time [14:52] YaCk (n=Yack@unaffiliated/yack) joined ##slackware. [14:52] ... ah I guess Alex's branch of that network is KSAX [14:52] YaCk (n=Yack@unaffiliated/yack) left ##slackware. [14:52] I grew up by Willmar [14:52] (little town called Madison) [14:53] small world :) [14:53] DWKnight (n=dwknight@hlfxns0149w-142068244183.pppoe-dynamic.ns.aliant.net) joined ##slackware. [14:53] I've heard of it. My folks moved here when I was an infant but I spent many summers at my grandparent's palce in Plymouth, on shores of Medicine Lake [14:54] cool [14:54] nothing like winter in the Iron Range heh [14:54] I prefer the coast :) [14:54] no doubt [14:54] I'm trying to get a promise ata card working as a secondary hard drive controller in my slack system and am wondering what kernel settings I need besides the promise support for my controller's chipser [14:55] I have to say, though, that MN has nothing on North Dakota for winter harshness ... I lived there for a couple years and it was brutal [14:55] I wouldn't want to live far from the ocean [14:56] DWKnight, I would assume nothing else. [14:57] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:57] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:58] something's not working right on my system then [14:58] Action: DWKnight goes to re-do stuff [15:01] eddief2 (n=eddie@68.160.228.155) left irc: Client Quit [15:01] nvision (n=nvision@g229120129.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:02] xenix (n=XeNiX@41.214.200.13) joined ##slackware. [15:02] Hello How i can upgrade slackware 10.2 to slackware 12.2 ?? [15:02] help pliz [15:03] 10.2 to 12.2 would be a big jump. I'd just back up my data and make note of any special settings and install from scratch then restore my data. [15:03] Otherwise you're in for a long journey] [15:04] i have Problem with php and apche on the 10.2 [15:04] php: error while loading shared libraries: libmhash.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [15:04] :s [15:04] xenix: 10.2 -> 12.2 is *NOT* supported and will most likely lead to breakage. [15:05] I think we're all going to side with NyteOwl on this [15:05] get your data and crucial settings backed up and then clean install it [15:06] That's basically what I did when I updated my laptop from 10.2 to 12.1 :) [15:06] DWKnight: How to ? i use it remotely [15:06] Rorviker (i=rorry@65.81-167-68.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [15:07] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:07] fully remotely? [15:07] yeah Fully [15:07] how did you install 10.2 back then? [15:07] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:07] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:08] be: it is my server they gave mt his witrh [15:08] :s [15:08] I'm having dificulties installing slackware from cd. when choosing media type in setup it cant detect my cdrom. In debian it finally found my cdrom when booted with generic.all_generic_ide=1. What can I do to get slackware to find my cdrom? [15:09] xenix: so this is a server you rent from some hosting company? [15:09] Rorviker: try a different kernel maybe? [15:09] xenix: maybe they offer some sort of upgrade? [15:09] DWKnight: I'm not that familiar with linux, can you point in the right direction please? [15:10] be: no [15:10] :s [15:10] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [15:10] how are you booting to install right now? [15:11] :s [15:11] I'm booting from cdrom, logging on as root, entering setup, seting up swap and / then choosing install media, and then it finds no cdrom to install from.. [15:11] coulda sworn there was a stage in that process to choose a kernel from the cd/dvd to boot from [15:11] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [15:12] thats correct, but I do not know what to enter there. [15:13] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl58-94.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:14] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) left irc: "Quitte" [15:15] 12.2 right ror? [15:15] I think the bootkernel on the disk is one of those monolithic all-inclusive ones now [15:15] the installer uses huge iirc [15:16] and you only really need hugesmp for a dual-core or other multi-core system [15:16] at least to take advantage of it [15:16] DWKnight: hmm.. I might not have the newest then, think I have 9.1 ? [15:17] yeah, current is 12.2 [15:17] slackware 9.1? [15:17] ide or sata cd drive? [15:17] holy crap [15:17] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-108-147.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:17] my fileserver has 10.2, not really having any major problems with it either [15:17] NyteOwl: sata is ide also. But it's an old PATA cdrom [15:17] Action: NyteOwl still has a machine on 8.2 but doesn't recommend it for new installs except on older hardware :) [15:18] Had no problems before I got this new MB [15:18] I'll download 12,2 and try that [15:18] Rorviker: if you have new gear why not just use newer software too? [15:18] yeah man [15:18] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [15:19] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:19] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:19] DWKnight configure: error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check [15:20] i cant install apache [15:20] nullboy: I thought I downloaded the newest, I was too quick. and the cpu is a dual core [15:20] and ever php crash "php: error while loading shared libraries: libmhash.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" [15:20] xenix: slackware comes with apache.... [15:20] Rorviker: dual-core COULD benefit from hugesmp when you go that way [15:21] but you'll probably want a tweaked kernel for best performance once you're up and running [15:21] nullboy: yes But phpdont work [15:21] i got apache [15:21] apache 1.3.x downloaded [15:21] xenix: when did it stop working and what was the alst thing you did before it stopped working [15:21] xenix: enable in the apache config [15:21] xenix: ....don't install apache from source...slackware has apache and php works just finwe [15:22] DWKnight: another small issue is my new mobo only has pci-ex and that gfx card is in this computer so have to turn it off when I'm about to install 12.2. Any booting option hints you can give me right away to get my cdrom working? [15:22] iaindalton (n=user@host-72-174-169-236.cdc-ut.client.bresnan.net) joined ##slackware. [15:22] if the 12.2 cd/dvd kernel has what I think it has, you won't need to do anything special [15:22] turn off gfx to install? [15:23] what motherboard? [15:23] that's not what he meant [15:24] NyteOwl: it's also not what he said [15:24] I'm curious about Slackware. I hear it has no package management (by default) and people like it that way. Probably not super important for home computers, but how does Slackware deal with security updates? [15:24] ok, I reread it I see what he meant now heh [15:24] Action: NyteOwl needs another coffee :) [15:24] iaindalton: it has package management [15:25] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [15:25] iaindalton: when a security issue comes up, new packages are place in patches/ on the mirrors and you just upgrade [15:25] iaindalton: there's also a mailing list which informs you about the updates [15:25] Someone indicated that package management is download a tarball and make install. Is that true? [15:25] applying Security updates are the admins responsibility, not the OS. Just subscribe to the mailing list, then downlaod patches/etc as needed and isntall [15:25] iaindalton: not true [15:26] How does it work? [15:26] iaindalton: pkgtools [15:26] nullboy: php not working i see the php source when i hit a php page from my server [15:26] iaindalton: go read about slackware form a decent source instead of listening to rumors http://www.slackbasics.org/ [15:27] xenix: you have a misconfigured apache....go look at your apache config... [15:27] iaindalton: and slackbook.org [15:27] xenix: have you added php to the type handlers in the apache config? [15:27] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [15:28] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: Connection timed out [15:30] line 497 in httpd.conf [15:30] ... 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[15:35] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:35] nullboy : it is a server i use it fully remotely ; they gave slackware 10.2 with no php and no apache [15:35] no mysql [15:35] not curl [15:35] really empy [15:35] .... [15:35] Hello, world! [15:35] i can't help you anymore [15:35] xenix: A Linode? [15:35] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [15:35] jkwood: ovh [15:35] ovh.com [15:36] I see. [15:36] Please helpt me with this: http://rafb.net/p/KFcPRg42.html it shows me when I try to run oblogout. A log out program for openbox [15:36] Action: jkwood rummages around in his grab bag of helpful things [15:38] nullboy; what i shall do ? [15:38] Rorviker (i=rorry@65.81-167-68.customer.lyse.net) left irc: [15:39] xenix: Do you have wget ? [15:39] dedicated server or vps? [15:39] Hmm... says on ovh.com.fr that they offer 12.1. [15:40] or get a VPS where they allow you to connect to console and install your own OS [15:40] xenix: what is the output of cat /etc/slackware-version ? [15:40] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:40] yeah [15:40] wget i have [15:40] vps [15:41] well 3 of their VPS are using Debian Etch and one CentOS so which one uses Slackware [15:41] Slackware 10.2.0 [15:41] doh [15:41] ancient [15:41] 10.2... okay. [15:41] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:41] figured out what was being cranky with my promise card. thing wasn't in a fully functional PCI slot [15:42] Action: jkwood rummages around in his grab bag some more [15:42] how i can resolve this configure: error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check [15:42] According to the site I see the Promox,Vmware and Xen servers using Debian and the Virtuozzo using CentOS I haven't found emntion of Slackware yet [15:42] now to migrate one of the core directories (/home) to the new drive [15:43] xenix: You apparently don't have the development stuff, which is not surprising on a VPS. [15:43] so can somebody help me? [15:43] fserve (n=gbs@201008190094.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:44] xenix: I suggest you download what you need from ftp://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-10.2/ [15:44] l4m4_m4n: dbus installed? [15:44] Note that if there's a version in patches/ you will want that one. [15:44] yes! [15:44] DWKnight: yes! [15:45] version 2.5 [15:45] looks like it's not actually running right that second [15:45] or it's configured for a different directory for that socket [15:45] that script is for #! linux [15:45] so maybe I need to change something in the script? [15:46] Very likely. [15:46] hm [15:46] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.227) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:46] OK, then I will try to contact the author. Maybe he will help me! Thank you! [15:49] firebird619 (i=500@173-18-62-178.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [15:54] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:54] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: "Leaving" [15:55] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4m4n@83.218.195.61) left irc: "Leaving" [15:56] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl58-94.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [15:56] josemanuel (n=josemanu@214.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:57] Please help me to fix this checking how to run the C preprocessor... /lib/cpp [15:57] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn201.78-99-10.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [15:57] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4m4n@83.218.195.61) joined ##slackware. [15:58] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:58] xenix: did you install the c compiler? [15:58] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [15:58] xenix: what do you want? php or cpp? [15:58] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [15:59] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:00] be : before cpp coz i cant compile anything [16:00] :s:s:s [16:00] But gcc seems installed [16:00] 3.3.6 [16:01] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] Guest87990 (n=nick@69.17.57.162) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:02] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4m4n@83.218.195.61) left irc: "Leaving" [16:02] I took the time to upgrade my gcc to at least the 3.4 series on my slack box [16:02] antler (n=antler@S010600226b809448.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] xenix: forget that compiling, download official packages for 10.2 from some mirror (see above) and install them [16:05] this is what i did [16:05] it is not working [16:05] Bro Look [16:05] httpd didnt load php mod too [16:05] :s [16:05] check logs [16:06] Anybody any idea why hp-setup tells me that no device is found while cups found the printer hp officejet and prints without problems? [16:07] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@87.13.101.172) joined ##slackware. [16:07] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:07] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@87.13.101.172) joined ##slackware. [16:11] Nick change: kamaji_ -> kamaji [16:12] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [16:15] anybody using Xaraya? [16:15] arny (n=arny@79.119.156.229) left irc: "Leaving" [16:19] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [16:21] dk (n=lima@adsl-76-255-68-112.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:21] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:22] xenix (n=XeNiX@41.214.200.13) left irc: [16:23] is anyone having problems with flash10+firefox? firefox crashes while entering fullscreen mode (i.e youtube) [16:23] dk, is hardware acceleration enabled in flash ? which video driver are you using ? [16:23] I've had problems with fullscreen on bbc iplayer [16:24] don't recall flash version though - one sec [16:24] just diable hw accel by right clicking some flash media in a webpage [16:24] that will fix it [16:25] flash sucks [16:26] Camarade_Tux: hardware accel is enabled, but there's no way to disable. I can even make it to the settings screen [16:26] oops [16:26] Camarade_Tux: hardware accel is enabled, but there's no way to disable. I cant even make it to the settings screen [16:26] CANT [16:26] ... [16:26] nullboy: :P [16:26] I'm still using 9 [16:27] dive: do you know where I can dl flash9? can't find it anywhere [16:27] I doubt it [16:27] DWKnight (n=dwknight@hlfxns0149w-142068244183.pppoe-dynamic.ns.aliant.net) left ##slackware. [16:28] I can put it up on my ftp if i can find it - one sec [16:28] adobe.com or slackbuilds maybe [16:28] just try going to a different page [16:28] right click some flash media and disable it [16:29] and if ff crashes don't use the restore session... [16:30] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:30] tried that already [16:31] try --replace kwin ? [16:31] or whatever [16:32] dk, I've got a slow upload but it's coming [16:32] evening gang :-) [16:32] http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts [16:33] dk, let me know when you have and I will delete it [16:33] evening macavity [16:34] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.46.53) joined ##slackware. [16:34] ok [16:36] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:36] faffi_ (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [16:36] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:36] nachox: did you remember to bring the pop corn? [16:37] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:38] lionping (n=itsme@cm.mpi.univie.ac.at) joined ##slackware. [16:38] ? [16:38] evening macavity [16:39] SunOS saturn 5.11 snv_107 i86pc i386 i86pc :) [16:39] macavity, are you expecting some entertainment tonight? :-) [16:39] dive: working like a charm now :) [16:39] thanks [16:39] ok I wil delete - np [16:40] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left irc: Client Quit [16:40] nachox, I almost have opensolaris installed in vbox :) [16:41] i use this script for on the fly on/off. http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Switch [16:41] I'm wondering what the software repos are like - full or sparse? [16:41] Ferrenrock (n=sampo@c-67-173-155-191.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:41] just a bash script [16:41] Rat409: what are you talking about? [16:42] compiz-switch [16:42] dive, ?? [16:42] :( [16:43] eboard is not up-to-date [16:43] I'm just wondering how much s/w there is available for solaris [16:43] in slackware [16:43] and what it is like for framebuffer [16:44] skibur: so rebuild it.... [16:44] dive, http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev/en/catalog.shtml?version=0.5.11%2C0.5.11-0.107&action=Browse [16:44] yup [16:44] :P [16:44] dive: with the influx of ultra-low-IQ individuals we have been "blessed" with lately, yes, odds are pretty good for a spetacular "epicfail -> k-line" :P [16:45] I saw one earlier - moral if you are going to spam, don't do it in #freenode [16:46] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. [16:46] DeeeP (i=0@bl9-247-88.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:47] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [16:47] but, but, but... i though spam was generic and applicable to any place?!? :P [16:48] anybody knows of a reason why an empty dvd-r would not mount? the error messages are not very helpful [16:48] u cannot mount empty media [16:48] it's empty... [16:48] there was one guy who got banned from a channel, cam into #freenode to ask how to get unbanned, then he left and came back boasting how he was using a web client to get back in.. [16:49] i need more info to reach enlightenment, sorry [16:49] josemanuel: you can only mount a filesystem..... [16:49] yes [16:49] josemanuel: a media contains a filesystem, mount cannot mount a filesystem that is not there [16:49] emppty = no filesystem [16:49] yes, again, what i want to know is, what do i need to do with it, then? [16:50] Action: dive opens the popcorn ;-) [16:50] nothing? [16:50] u , burn some data , then u can mount [16:50] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [16:50] stick it up ur zz [16:50] j/k [16:50] ah, "an empty dvd-r *dics*" [16:50] ok, i guess i asked my question in the wrong order [16:50] now i grasp clue :P [16:50] the problem manifested when i tried to burn it using k3b [16:50] you just call cdreccord when you are done constructing your iso image [16:51] huh? [16:51] k3b refuses to work on a mounted drive [16:51] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:51] but it wasn't mounted [16:51] even for "append mode" burns [16:51] he he whoo, he he whoo [16:51] does your dvd-rom supports dvd-r media ? [16:51] either it does, or the manual lies [16:52] what is the k3b error [16:52] there was no error, it just wouldn't let me [16:52] wont let you , will bring an error [16:52] in not letting you there must have a an error...how did it go about not letting you? [16:52] no, let me explain the situation [16:52] this is like pulling teeth [16:53] you know when you already have your data ready and click on burn? [16:53] and then a window pops up and says: select a media, or someting like that? [16:53] well, there was no media to select [16:54] is the dvd inserted ? :p [16:54] obviously, but not right now, that was this morning [16:54] u did make a DVD project right [16:54] sure [16:54] u see the space left under [16:54] ok [16:54] where? [16:55] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:55] let me open k3b [16:55] there a under bar , u see the GB left , when u add data , there´s a bar [16:55] very bottom of window [16:56] yes [16:56] skibur: the only part of the gnuchess package that is dated is eboard [16:56] i just built it using eboard 1.1.1 [16:56] cool [16:56] "sorry i was late, i was kidnapped by a serial killer, he took me to an abandoned meat packing plant, i knocked him out with a ham bone and stole his pickup truck and made my escape" [16:57] I just compiled my too [16:57] josemanuel, did u try burning with other dvd label ? [16:57] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:57] Pig_Pen, sounds like a good plot [16:57] you mean changing the name of the burned dvd? [16:57] no , other brand [16:57] remember that next time you are late [16:58] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.46.53) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:58] same brand, only not dvd-r, worked fine [16:58] it was dvd+rw [16:58] it's been working fine for months now, actually [16:58] i would try other dvd-r brand [16:58] oh [16:59] i'm quite sure it's the dvd's fault [16:59] Nick change: faffi_ -> faffi [16:59] does your drive only support + media then? [16:59] but i'd like to know a reason for it not to work [16:59] + and - are two different specs [16:59] nullboy, the manual says it support + and - [16:59] k [16:59] supports* [16:59] or might be that brand, that runs from the standarts [17:00] elderK (n=zk@219-89-246-182.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [17:00] http://www.dilbert.com/ i confess to the sin of plagurism [17:00] Aloha, guys! [17:00] yeah quality varies greatly between manufacturers [17:00] Action: elderK waves [17:00] I was wondering, if I could install a Slackware-9 set on Slackware 12.2, and it still run? [17:00] Say, Gnome 2.2 [17:00] :P [17:00] rudy fernandez [17:01] i'll have to buy the dvd+rw again, but they cost twice as much, which was the reason i bought these ones this time [17:01] elderK: nope [17:01] Libraries all different, null? [17:01] josemanuel, try dvd+r [17:01] elderK: completely different toolchains and libs [17:01] In that case, would it be possible to compile Gnome 2.2? [17:01] well, thanks everyone [17:01] there are projects for this [17:01] josemanuel, u pt ? [17:01] Yes. [17:01] i what? [17:01] but I dont want th elatest gnome [17:01] I want GNOME from 2k3. [17:01] josemanuel, portuguese [17:02] 2.2 :P not 2.20 or whatever. [17:02] no [17:02] spanish [17:02] k [17:02] pt_BR here [17:02] :P [17:02] cool [17:02] pt_pt here :D [17:02] DeeeP: pt_PT here :) [17:02] lol higuita [17:02] agentc0reWORK (n=chatzill@heartslc.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:02] higuita, DeeeP = Bop :) [17:03] lol [17:03] higuita, have slackware ? [17:04] nvm [17:04] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.46.53) joined ##slackware. [17:05] yep... sort of... slamd64, with a slackware in a chroot for things were the 32bit layer of slamd64 isnt enough 8) [17:05] goo lord [17:05] huh? [17:05] wtf man [17:05] higuita: name one thing 32bit that won't run in slamd64 [17:05] and I'll show you someone who probably runs it :) [17:05] did you hear that firefox runs faster in wine? [17:05] spook (n=spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:06] I've heard a lot of BS lately [17:06] pirving: yeah we all are capable of reading /. [17:06] firefox works just fine for me. [17:06] same here [17:06] I don't care about speed.. I want stability [17:06] mbhayes: mostly games, that requires a some libs that slamd64 dont have... i could compile it, or i can point to my old slackware install in the chroot (i can boot from that slackware if i want) [17:06] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [17:06] firefox works mostly ok but it still is firefox [17:07] higuita: a good portion of slackware's libs can be installed directly into slamd64.. with some changes tot he package name.. not saying do it, but it has been done. [17:07] slam64 runs the same current as slackware ? [17:09] not always [17:09] As much as is possible. [17:09] i know, i do that also... but i slackware install from 1998 is already full of things installed, if i start a new 32bit game/app that requires a lib that i dont have in slamd64, but its in the slackware partition, all i have to do is LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/mnt/slackware/usr/lib:/mnt/slackware/usr/local/lib [17:09] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:09] or rather... it gennerally attempts to, but sometimes it takes a little while to iron out the 64 bit wrinkles :P [17:09] from time to time, i chroot the slackare chroot and update it [17:10] why are you using chroot as if it were a virtual machine? [17:10] because i can... [17:10] Action: jkwood should create a package conversion script [17:11] no need for a VM when i can do a chroot and have a "perfect" slackware install running at same level as the slamd64 [17:11] i use KVM for that purpose and it runs at damn near native speeds [17:11] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host81-155-57-87.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:11] Ferrenrock (n=sampo@c-67-173-155-191.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving." [17:12] i'd say right around 95-98% [17:12] hehehe... i run NATIVE speed :) [17:12] yeah, in a chroot [17:13] question : what u guys use for slackware package creation from source ? [17:13] checkinstall ? [17:13] but most of the time, i run directly apps from the slackware chroot, i already have a script that adds the paths and LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the slackware, so its almost like merging slamd64 and slackware [17:13] DeeeP: Heck no. checkinstall is broken. [17:13] DeeeP: Check out http://slackbuilds.org [17:14] spook (n=spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [17:14] never really seen slackbuilds , ill check it out , thanks [17:14] i use checkinstall, portpkg and of course, hand install for apps i use most [17:14] DeeeP: Also, you might get some mileage out of http://slaxer.com/myscripts/sbsuite.rb [17:14] chroot is a really imperfect jail, and it can lead to all sort of weird stuff, network is a pain in the ass with it for example, you cannot tell your slackware to cap networking resouces if the process is in a chroot environment :P [17:14] higuita, but with hand install , u cannot uninstall it later or upgrade easily [17:15] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [17:16] higuita, if you don't find something on slackbuilds check out src2pkg [17:16] or write your own slackbuild of course [17:16] nachox: i dont need any of it, my chroot is to merge the 2 systems, i'm not trying to isolate both, even worst, trying to increase the security :) [17:16] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-108-147.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "quit" [17:16] DeeeP: several apps i hand install have make uninstall [17:17] those are the exception [17:17] others its just a binary that i place in my $HOME/bin [17:17] higuita, if u keep the source , mostly will work [17:17] but i dont keep the source [17:18] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-150-125-ull.customer.panservice.it) left irc: Client Quit [17:18] most of the hand installs are cvs/svn/hg/git checkouts that i follow [17:19] i just write build script for those [17:19] i use a lot of svn and git version stuff [17:20] Anakin (n=Anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [17:21] i do a ./123.sh ... they have mostly this: svn/hg/etc update && autogen.sh && ./configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib64 && make && sudo make install [17:21] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:21] dive, u got homepage project of src2pkg ? [17:22] you should definitely try to build your own slackbuilds, it's easier, more convenient, and just as manly [17:22] I think it's src2pkg.org or amigolinux.org [17:22] josemanuel: this is just for about 8-10 projects i follow... its really a slackbuild, without the package creation [17:22] google has it [17:23] could not find it [17:23] Wolong (n=wolong@115.30.125.92.vpn.tomsknet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:23] Wolong (n=wolong@115.30.125.92.vpn.tomsknet.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:23] ops [17:23] sorry [17:23] found it [17:23] first links... [17:23] -s [17:23] yep [17:23] skipped that link [17:23] higuita, the good point about a slackbuild is that you only have to do it once, and it helps you keep your upgrades tidy [17:24] upgrades or uninstalls, if needed [17:24] rg3 (n=rg3@62.32.133.196) left irc: "Quit" [17:25] DeeeP, advice: after install edit /etc/src2pkg/src2pkg.conf and uncomment the quiet=no line, when you run it, run it as root and use 'src2pkg -C -REAL ' [17:25] josemanuel: again, this are projects that i follow, update, build and install several times in a month, so i dont have that kind of problems :) [17:25] that should be default imo [17:25] ok [17:25] dive, k ,thanks, ill check that [17:26] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.167) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [17:30] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:31] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl65-55.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:31] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:31] kitche (i=kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [17:32] DeeeP, if you ever visit linuxquestions.org slackware forum that's where Gnashley posts updates for src2pkg - always worth checking out for updates [17:32] and for asking questions [17:32] http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/amigolinux/download/src2pkg/ is not the main project "homepage" ? [17:33] I think that's the best you will get for src2pkg [17:33] ok ok [17:34] he was the main developer of amigo linux (based on slack) but I think he's dropped that now [17:34] gnashley's lite perl is wonderful :) [17:34] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [17:36] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [17:36] Camarade_Tux, I've never really looked at his other s/w - I started using src2pkg after checkinstall stopped working and use it if I can't find a sb and need to make a package fast [17:37] dive, i used checkinstall with -fstrans parameter, and it worked [17:38] now if I want to make a package that isn't on SBo I will make a slackbuild and submit it [17:38] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:38] DeeeP: you don't need to do that if you use the git checkinstall [17:38] it has been fixed [17:39] ok ok [17:39] but src2pkg is so much easier than checkinstall [17:39] ill try that one next time [17:40] that could be part of slackware distro by now :) [17:40] dive, I started looking at src2pkg after he told me his way to build this light perl was an src2pkg script ;p [17:41] there's one thing I want to ask Gnashley though - he has an option to create a build script - if that could make a slackbuild it would be good [17:41] I have several src2pkg scripts, using them in an automated way, I should try to use slackbuilds when slackbuilds are already available [17:41] there is a src2slack package around [17:41] dive, wait a minute, I may have an answer for you ;) [17:42] never got it to work yet though [17:44] josemanuel (n=josemanu@214.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [17:44] dive, quoting gnashley (13 months ago) : "I actually entertained the idea, for a long time, of having src2pkg write a real SlackBuild instead of(or in addition to?) a src2pkg script. Since the -A option does a lot of 'discovery' it wouldn't be farfetched to do this. But, in the end, it would take quite a lot of code to implement it and SlackBuilds lack the flexibility, and especially, the conciseness of src2pkg sc [17:44] ripts." [17:44] sorry for the long quote [17:44] vor (n=s@bzq-79-180-117-30.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [17:44] hmm [17:46] JerrySabor^ (n=user@c-98-201-10-14.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) left irc: "Blank" [17:46] well in that case I could easily make bash script that creates a slackbuild using a standard template and adding in the names/versions etc [17:46] dive: geif! [17:46] shoudln't be too hard, but of course you would need to edit it afterwards [17:46] geif? [17:46] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:46] "give" :P [17:46] _ohm (n=nava@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:46] dive: http://slaxer.com/myscripts/sbsuite.rb [17:47] Not Bash, but Ruby is fairly clean. [17:47] Action: pupit poor idiot :) http://englishrussia.com/?p=2276 [17:47] my mommy told me to never open URLs from strangers [17:48] jkwood, lol, love that license ;p [17:48] Pig_Pen: who's your daddy? XD [17:48] Camarade_Tux: =) [17:49] lol I like the comments at start - photo of flaming dog in post... :-( [17:49] dk (n=lima@adsl-76-255-68-112.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:50] Action: NyteOwl just found irc bot written in bash script :) [17:50] jkwood, your ruby script doesn't deal with all the stupidities^Wweird things^Wspecificities you can find in sources I guess [17:50] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:50] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:51] True, but it does fully 70% of the work for you. [17:51] And that's not bad for calling a script with five arguments. ;) [17:51] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [17:51] Also, 70% is a low estimate... sometimes, it does 95% of the work for you. [17:52] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-139-208.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:52] http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-stimulus-saves-microsoft-billionaire-hundreds-of-millions-phew-2009-2 [17:52] welfare for the rich? [17:53] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:53] pupit, Pig_Pen, who's your daddy ? http://www.shoelace.org/pics/2007/05-03-07/Chances.jpg ;) [17:53] Pig_Pen, it's all wellfare for the rich [17:53] haha [17:53] :D [17:54] damn, started snowing already [17:54] pupit, lol @ your video [17:54] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:54] NyteOwl: it is t-shirt weather here today, mid 70s F' [17:54] does http://www.joomal.org load for anyone? [17:54] Camarade_Tux ;) [17:55] Pig_Pen: nice. supposed tog et 4-6" snow tonight and then freezing rain tomorrow [17:55] i hate the freezing rain worse than the snow [17:55] er http://www.joomla.org [17:55] yes [17:55] the snow I can hndle the ice is something else again [17:55] joomla loads for me [17:55] hmm, not loading here [17:56] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:56] call a plumber, your intertubes are clogged [17:56] heh [17:57] joomla loads here too [17:57] hasn't been reachable for me for a couple of days [17:57] maybe your ISP does not like that website [17:59] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [17:59] dunno it just times out [18:00] mtr [18:01] the city police here are dumbasses when it comes to using their two-way radios, i am sure most have a radio in their police cars and a walkie-talkie on their person, and they get feedback squealing all the time from not turning the volume down on at least one of the two radios [18:01] heh [18:01] that's not uncommon [18:01] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Killed by BillGates (Windows Linux 98 -- jizz your pants!)   [www.t7ds.com.br]" [18:01] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-139-208.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: "rcirc on GNU Emacs 22.2.1" [18:01] NyteOwl, tried opendns ? [18:02] the county sheriff & deputies dont let that happen [18:02] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [18:02] Camarade_Tux: no becasue it's only that site that it seems to happen on [18:07] Anakin (n=Anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [18:08] NyteOwl, are you using a proxy? I just found out that my proxy was diverting me to completely different website [18:08] NyteOwl, when I returned to my ISP's DNS last week, I had troubles with lwn.net, every other site was working [18:08] NyteOwl, top + privoxy [18:08] *tor [18:08] dive I use privoxy and no it's not blocking the site [18:08] elderK (n=zk@219-89-246-182.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left ##slackware. [18:09] NyteOwl, no it wasn't blocking for me - it was directing somewhere completely different [18:09] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:10] NyteOwl, restarted tor and privoxy and now it works [18:10] oh for fucks sake. [18:10] othermindszine (n=othermin@35.sub-70-193-212.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [18:10] the popup requesting cookie confirmation was hidden ebhind anoher window and the site wouldn't load timm the cookies was either accepted or rejected [18:10] stupid intenrt [18:11] marc87 (n=alejandr@189.174.57.22) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:11] stupid wm [18:11] s/timm/till/ [18:12] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] I must say the other site was a lot more ineteresting - how to cure drug addiction with laxatives - highly pertinent info for me [18:14] grazymax (n=grazymax@host250-159-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:15] poop it all out [18:15] i like it! [18:16] omg it's working! err brb [18:16] that's the shits:) [18:16] lol [18:16] but what if you're addicted to laxatives? [18:16] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-117-255.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:16] Stx (i=stx@freenode/staff/stx) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:16] lol [18:16] Action: NyteOwl considers making a plain black & white website, newspaper style. heh [18:16] boring but low maintenance [18:16] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-331971.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:17] yeah that's kind of how I based mine [18:17] although it'a white on black [18:18] but nested tables can give a kind of 3d raised look [18:19] bevels [18:19] ewwwwwwww [18:19] you can do that with css too [18:25] hmm it seems I changed my wesbite in a dream and it's actually black on white now [18:25] NyteOwl: it would be nice and old school [18:25] NyteOwl: http://blackcore.net/ [18:25] my friends is pretty old school looking [18:25] I guess I din't work out how to change the colours of directories in .htaccess after all [18:26] http://wimp.com/spyfind/ jeeezuuus H. Christ on a pogostick! is this for real? they guy claims he finds a hidden camera in a digital to analog TV converter box [18:26] lol [18:26] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:27] would appreciate some info on the FTP install [18:27] Pig_Pen: think its real? [18:27] have burned CD1 [18:28] its possible [18:28] mohaa: it works, it uses ftp and mainly meant to be used for internal mirrors [18:28] rip that shit out [18:28] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=digital+converter+box+camera&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq= [18:29] BP{k}, internal mirrors ? [18:29] it's all the same video [18:29] i call BS [18:29] if it was real there would be more people [18:30] it's a hoax [18:30] mohaa: ie local as opposed to downloading everyone / hammering the public mirrors out on the internet [18:31] ok I see [18:31] is that all requirements : CD1 and a working internet connection ? [18:32] Essentially, yes [18:32] anyone know how to get ssh forwarding to virtualbox? [18:32] It will take a long time installing Slackware over ftp if you are using an Internet mirror, though. A _long_ time [18:32] but frankly if you already have cd1 you can install all that from the CD. no sense using ftp [18:33] :D [18:33] hell i'm doing it over 100mbps lan and it takes some time [18:34] granted the installing host is a celeron 500 [18:34] BP{k}, it's for a desktop...and I am bored X is on cd2 -_- [18:35] mohaa: downloading CD2 or installing using the ftp-install... it will both take a lot of time. And if you download CD2 you can do a second install without having to download all that MB a second time.... [18:36] alienBOB, meanwhile I downloaded it :/ (11minutes) [18:36] Fast connection there [18:37] yes [18:37] one quick way to see if it is just a sensor for the remote control would be to put a piece of tape over it and see if the remote control still works [18:37] Pig_Pen: dude...it's bullshit [18:37] and the traffic is low on the french mirror as well [18:38] and IR sensors do not look like that. there is no reason to have that much casing around an IR sensor in the first but that video is bullshit to begin with [18:39] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:39] and also...mounted on a power transformer? you think any manufacturer would mount anything on a power transformer? [18:39] oooh dear :) [18:41] seems like Magnavox would step in and discredit that video [18:42] lol [18:42] that video is a known hoax [18:43] i just run across it today browsing through craigslist [18:43] keveam (n=kevin@24-182-224-178.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:46] Action: dive hums paranoid [18:47] sQuEE (n=narya@host211.201-253-131.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [18:49] Kerio2004 (n=Port@78.93.68.185) left irc: [18:51] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [18:51] iknow the "real" consperacy, Magnavox themselves made that video so people will buy those converter boxes hoping to find the camera & mic, and once the box is opened they void the warrenty and can not return for a refund, (hoping to sell more converter boxes) [18:51] see now we're talking! [18:51] then the aliens can invade. [18:51] i plan to just use digital rabbit ears [18:52] that will rock [18:52] as it is i don't even have tv feed so rabbit ears will be fun [18:52] I have the TF-3200 with rabbit ears (tf-3200 is this years model tin foil hat) [18:53] i have a really old set of rabbit ears from a black & white tv, and the local tv station now has three channels, 10 (analog but soon to be gone), 10-1, 10-2 & 10-3 [18:54] i seen on youtube where people are making homemade TV antennas and they seem to work pretty good [18:54] i'm in canada, it's 2011 here i think. [18:54] before we switch [18:55] what city in canada? [18:55] ! [18:55] you... you SPY. [18:55] you want to steal my megahurtz don't you!? [18:55] yeah, i need to align my antenna on your converter box [18:56] i can't believe people actually still don't have cable though. [18:56] ooh talking dirty [18:56] or digital cable / satellite. [18:56] There are still some placs you can't get cable heh [18:57] over here, digicable is less expensive than cable.. and channels are being removed from cable as time goes on. [18:57] I have cable and half the time can't find anything worth watching. I've often considered getting rid of it [18:57] I'm lucky I live in a dump and telewest decided to try out cable in the worse places.. [18:57] if i ever get rich i would move so far out in the country that i wont have cable, and have to make my own electricity, to heck with civilisation it is too scary i prefer to live like a hermit [18:57] alienBOB, how would I manage to install cd2 if I only have cd1 ? -_- [18:57] Pig_Pen: it has its benefits [18:58] to be honest, i actually preferred satellite to digital cable. [18:58] I liked the different timezone channels. :D [18:58] _ohm (n=nava@nom20460a.nomadic.ncsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:58] if you miss a show, you can watch it in the other timezone. [18:58] NyteOwl: has a good point, why pay for cable so tv stations can pipe advertising to you every ten minues, i am sick of all the advertising on TV so i rarely watch tv anymore [18:58] Azalyn, my dig cable is so slow to change chann, and the guide is lag city. I dont even use the guid, except to schedul if I really know the time, [18:58] farking Eastlink just upped their rates again. second time in 6 months [18:58] radio 3/4 ftw [18:59] mine just as an annoying interface. [18:59] i listen to NPR a lot when not listening to shortwave radio [18:59] i liked the guide for sat better. [18:59] radio is on here more than TV [18:59] FM, shortwave, local oldies AM, and the scanners [18:59] Action: eviljames hates the radio. Especially AM [19:00] I find that Canada's AM radio is polluted by political pundits pontificating without pondering. [19:00] to be honest i think we need to unify all these standards.. create like some protocol that can work on anything, and optionally work broadcast-only. then you just have one type of receiver box regardless of the network. [19:00] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [19:00] there is a smooth jazz station on FM that is decent sometimes [19:00] depends on the programming you have available. we have both crap and half decent stations locally [19:01] Azalyn: the better to control what you see/hear/buy etc [19:01] you watched the movie Antitrust didn't you? :) [19:01] ok, back to work for me. [19:01] and same for cell phones. i hate all this network-centric phone bullshit. [19:01] as well as the gsm vs cdma bull. [19:01] don't get me started on cellphones [19:01] Action: NyteOwl rubs his sore wallet [19:02] carriers locking features in the fucking phone itself with drm, then making you pay to unlock them. [19:02] my contract is finally up with verizon [19:02] i am so stoked [19:02] then they have the nerve to claim that drm is about security. [19:02] i had verizon phones. they re flash them with verzion specific junk [19:02] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [19:02] it, about the content provider's security :) [19:02] tntslack (n=will@adsl30-101.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:02] financial security, amirite? [19:03] some1 (n=m1d@host86-134-206-196.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [19:03] given how stupid people are, it would be enough to just require certificates for installing apps, and have an OS option to disable that. most users would never find that option so they wouldn't infect themselves with viruses and crap. heh [19:04] you don't have to drm the whole fucking platform. [19:04] verzion is evil [19:05] at least gsm phones have some network interoperability [19:05] Who are you going to change to? [19:05] i'm hoping wiimax can pwn all their asses. [19:05] NyteOwl: which ever gsm carrier i find to be the cheapest [19:05] but it's unlikely in the near future. :( [19:05] heh [19:06] in canada there is exactly one gsm carrier. Rogers, all the others piggyback on their network. [19:06] you can't use a verzion with anything but verzion because they are donkeys [19:06] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [19:06] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.167.63) joined ##slackware. [19:06] try to use my RAZR with moto4lin? nope, because it is CDMA [19:06] and verizon raped it [19:06] mullboy so is Sprint [19:07] it's also lame how they'll put their own branding in the phone's menus and such, as well as on the phone itself. and even on some *buttons* [19:07] but the real reason i hate verzion? their fscking commercials [19:07] lol [19:07] they need to PC-afy that shit. [19:07] /part [19:08] fail duh [19:08] open from top to bottom. [19:08] Rat409: try again, we'll be sure to continue our conversation after you part [19:08] yay its o day [19:08] nullboy: good to know :P later [19:08] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.2.6"). [19:08] I looked at moving to Rogers, but except for a little better price break on the phone, it was cheaper to stay withBell [19:09] ok now where were we? oh yeah verzion and CDMA donkeys [19:09] i'm even down to switch to att...yes i'd even use att over verizon [19:13] damn GIMP books are pricey [19:13] of course all books are pricey these dasy [19:13] s/dasy/days/ [19:14] speaking of ebooks...TPB [19:14] doing the perp walk [19:14] ? [19:15] it's hard to tell how TPB will fair this time [19:15] those guys are coverd in soap... no-one can get a grip on them :P [19:16] haha [19:17] scotch anyone? [19:17] is this command correct? : xhost +local:root to allow root for X connection ? because then command "xhost" lists nobody [19:17] NyteOwl: sure :) [19:17] 190 proof everclear [19:18] Action: NyteOwl hands BP{k} 3 fingers of 12 yr old [19:18] cheerio :) [19:18] Action: NyteOwl hands Pig_Pen a bottle of antacid and a doctor's address [19:18] i mix a shotglass full in to a tall cold glass of 7UP [19:19] every night i do it [19:19] I drink for the flavour of what I'm drinking. Straight alcohol has no flavour and everclear is as close to pure alcoohl as it gets [19:19] rogers is extremely monopolistic. [19:19] they are evil as hell. [19:19] they all are [19:20] they're worse. [19:20] for their home internet, they wanted to ban all encryption. [19:20] because of bittorrent. [19:20] Pig_Pen: have you taught your wife how to call for help on your radios? :P [19:20] NyteOwl: get a bottle of Laphroaig. :) [19:20] they're batshit insane. [19:20] and deserve to die forever. [19:20] no need, she knows how to yell "HELP" [19:21] adrenaline (n=repsol@tuxhacker/adrenaline) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:21] repsol_ (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:22] how can an ISP ban encryption? [19:22] "* NyteOwl hands BP{k} 3 fingers of 12 yr old" <------ /me is crosseyed on that one :) [19:22] nullboy: by using deep packet inspection. if the pacvket seems to be encrypted you just drop it [19:22] 12 yr old what? :D ? :D [19:22] Old_Fogie: scotch - get your mind out of teh gutter :p [19:23] NyteOwl: so then they kill vpns.... [19:23] NyteOwl, :) [19:23] and then people who work from home are screwed [19:23] Old_Fogie: that probably tells more about you than anything else ;) [19:23] nullboy: Rogers wouldn't care for residential custoemrs [19:23] "work from *hom*" [19:23] home [19:23] they'd care [19:23] BP{k}, yes I have 3 fingers :) (hee hee played that one off quick didn't I) [19:23] they'de make using it an optional feature for home workers and charge them extra [19:24] Old_Fogie: did it take you *that* long to count them? ;) [19:24] BP{k}, I had to wait for the grand kids to come help [19:24] haha [19:25] hehe .. [19:26] TPB shirts, cool [19:26] i'm turning an old celeron 500 system into a slackware wifi AP [19:26] expensive though [19:26] it's one of those ancient 3com internet servers [19:27] nullboy: what are you using for a wireless NIC? [19:27] nullboy, oh that should be plenty fast enuff [19:27] nullboy, that's a nice project [19:27] NyteOwl: an high power atheros based ABG minipci card in a PCI adapter [19:27] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:27] 600mw card [19:28] cool [19:28] not jiggawatts, cheapskate [19:28] giggitywatts [19:30] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) left irc: "leaving" [19:30] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:31] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [19:32] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [19:34] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@194.65.138.120) joined ##slackware. [19:35] hello happy slackers [19:35] any good users with tcpdump? i'm trying to capture traffic from 3 different ports [19:36] tcpdump -s 0 -w myfile -i bond1 host myhost and tcp port 1 or tcp port 2 or tcp port 3 [19:36] night folks [19:36] is that correct? [19:36] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: "leaving" [19:36] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [19:37] tntslack (n=will@adsl30-101.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:38] anyone [19:38] LnxSlck: have you considered just using wireshark? [19:38] it's much easier to use [19:38] nullboy, true. but i got to do this on a console [19:38] :( [19:39] i'm just wondering if the port's options are correct, and if tcpdump will collect packets from those 3 ports [19:39] Nick change: hrad -> cuba [19:40] _ohm (n=nava@nom20460a.nomadic.ncsu.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [19:40] some1 (n=m1d@host86-134-206-196.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:41] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [19:42] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:42] wtf they have a bluewhite64 forum on lq? [19:42] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:42] please, can anybody check whether is this a proper way of X starting ? http://pastebin.com/m585b9ba5 [19:43] cause when I log off the session, 2 X sessions are exiting...it's weird [19:43] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:45] isn't it weird that the X session is started as root ? [19:45] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:46] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [19:47] cuba, as a normal user, who on a stock stystem of slack uses /bin/sh anyhow, startx will suffice (but listens on port 6000) so investigate the -nolisten tcp option if you require that. [19:48] cuba, and no..default run level of Slack is init 3, you can confirm with 'run level' command to see what you're in. so ifyou just boot to cli, type startx as a "user" then it runs. and no root doesnt need to start it for you. you should run 'xwmconfig' and set your default window manager of choice. [19:48] eh, runlevel [19:48] command [19:48] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Client Quit [19:49] /bin/sh /usr/bin/startx ... this one ? after boot, I log in as "cuba" and run startx from shell, I don't see anything bad on it [19:50] Old_Fogie, I swear there is no root in game [19:52] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [19:52] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [19:53] Old_Fogie: Would you mind pastebining your lspci for your sound and "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | head"? [19:54] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:54] Old_Fogie: If you're home now and have one of the netbooks near by. :D [19:55] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:55] Old_Fogie, and to set my default window manager was the first thing I did, but running startkde instead of startx produced extreme amount of errors [19:55] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [19:57] and it was fresh installation [19:58] cuba (n=hrad___@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) left irc: "Leaving" [20:01] this poor celeron doesn't know wtf hit it [20:01] and to top it off, the chipset is SiS [20:01] Eww... [20:01] fserve (n=gbs@201008190094.user.veloxzone.com.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:01] yeah tell me about it [20:02] SiS620 [20:02] amoc (n=user@124.49.51.183) joined ##slackware. [20:02] Man i remember avoiding SiS like the plague. [20:02] libATA doesn't support it so i'm stuck with CONFIG_IDE [20:04] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:04] cuba (n=hrad___@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) joined ##slackware. [20:04] just compiling madwifi takes over 10 minutes [20:04] brutal! [20:06] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "life in the rear view mirror" [20:06] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-125-128.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [20:11] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "bye" [20:13] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-125-128.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [20:13] Old_Fogie, what do you mean by " so investigate the -nolisten tcp option if you require that. " ? [20:14] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust80.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [20:15] netstat -an > tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:6000 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN ....nothing else [20:16] amoc (n=user@124.49.51.183) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:18] grep 6000 /etc/services [20:18] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:18] giuppy_ (n=giuppy@host215-160-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:19] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [20:20] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.21.247) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:20] nullboy, what ? we were talking about my mess in X [20:21] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:21] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.21.247) joined ##slackware. [20:21] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [20:21] 6000 IS X [20:21] and ? [20:21] Old_Fogie suggested -nolisten which would stop X from opening 6000 [20:21] so...and ? yourself [20:22] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-72-224-255-142.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:22] lol, I just wrote up a boot loder and it booted [20:23] sometimes I think I have too much time on my hands [20:23] razel (n=rpg@CPE000fb5dad35f-CM00152fba8904.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:23] nullboy, and why would I want the server to not open it ? [20:23] because it can be considered a security issue in certain contexts [20:23] so isnt cvs :pserver! [20:24] everyone knows you can break out of jail with those. [20:24] not easy, but fun [20:25] nullboy, aaha, and the -nolisten switch belongs to what ? [20:25] ... [20:25] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-125-128.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-125-128.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [20:29] startx - --nolisten tcp [20:30] make that [20:30] startx -- -nolisten tcp [20:30] cuba was asking a yes or no question, is this normal [20:30] othermindszine (n=othermin@35.sub-70-193-212.myvzw.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:31] is anything normal anymore? i think the world has gone crazy [20:31] giuppy (n=giuppy@host215-160-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:31] Action: agentc0re got his sound working finally!! [20:31] So i had to upgrade to a new kernel. [20:32] oh crap [20:32] In the process i did upgrade to the new alsa version, but i did that before the kernel which didn't work. Not sure if the original alsa would work, my guess is yes. [20:32] sound will be an issue.. [20:32] superGear (n=supergea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:32] the world is on fire, jesus spotted riding a moped on I-40 [20:32] lol [20:33] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.167.63) left irc: "leaving" [20:33] i always try to use the in kernel alsa driver [20:33] built as a module [20:33] Ruthven (n=mbutler@adsl-70-234-161-230.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:33] as much sound support built as modules as possible [20:34] Ya, thats what i did. :D [20:34] just the driver you need, but the support stuff built as modules [20:35] no sense in building alsa drivers you dont need [20:36] superGear (n=supergea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:38] JasonosaJ (n=Jasonosa@pool-72-69-225-228.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:39] cuba (n=hrad___@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) left irc: "Leaving" [20:43] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.196.214) joined ##slackware. [20:43] Razec (n=razec@189.56.183.198) joined ##slackware. [20:44] sQuEE (n=narya@host211.201-253-131.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:45] I'm checking my log /var/log/messages file to see failed login attempts. However is there a log file to see which password they wrongfully used to try to login? [20:45] JasonosaJ : that's a bad idea. [20:46] and no, you can't enable it, because it's a bad idea [20:46] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:46] It's a bad idea to check wrong passwords? [20:46] JasonosaJ /var/log/auth [20:46] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [20:46] JasonosaJ : it's a bad idea to log them. [20:47] last thing you want is for an attacker to have a clear text file of all the times you, or your users, have misstyped a password [20:47] that's like keeping a list of bad combinations to your safe around [20:47] If you're logging wrong passwords, you're logging good passwords too. [20:47] And, also, almost good passwords. [20:48] it's enough to see a few misstyped passwords, to see a common denominator [20:48] ok, I see [20:49] if they can see the txt file of failed passwords, can't they see any file on your pc now? [20:50] tank-man : not necessarily [20:50] log files often have more relaxed permissions than things like /etc/shadow [20:50] not to mention that having your password opens up possibilities [20:50] Say you're cleaning house and you accidently copy your log file into something silly, like /srv/www/htdocs. [20:51] i see how stupid it is now [20:51] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-94.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:51] vor (n=s@bzq-79-180-117-30.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: [20:52] JasonosaJ, are you using ldap? i think ldap in debug mode does save password attempts, the ones that succeed too [20:53] nachox, no i'm not [20:53] then you cant do what you need, slackware does not even have pam so you cannot even hack your way to it :P [20:54] Unless he rewrites all the authentication mechanisms. [20:54] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:55] i can help you setup pam if you want :o [20:55] ananke, /var/log/authpriv is as restricted as shadow in the distros that use it i believe [20:55] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-125-128.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:55] pam is cool [20:57] Guest1740878011 (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:59] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:01] i once knew a girl named Pam, she was a naughty girl that liked to party a lot [21:05] JasonosaJ (n=Jasonosa@pool-72-69-225-228.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:06] JasonosaJ (n=Jasonosa@pool-72-69-225-228.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:08] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:10] i'm off to sleep, night guys [21:10] night [21:11] tho it's only 7:11pm [21:12] Nick change: Guest1740878011 -> Gargantua [21:13] it's 12:13 am in argentina [21:15] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.46.53) left irc: "Leaving" [21:15] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [21:15] keveam (n=kevin@24-182-224-178.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [21:18] Stx (i=stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. [21:18] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-94.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [21:20] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@194.65.138.120) left irc: "Saindo" [21:21] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [21:22] anyone have gimp 2.6 on slackware? [21:23] I do,jonsmith1982..what's up? [21:23] got an error using the gegl slackbuild, it cannot find ffmpeg/avformat.h [21:25] install ffmpeg [21:25] i have it [21:26] its not listed as a dependency on slackbuilds either. [21:27] i think it's part of the mplayer project now [21:28] thanks. [21:28] it also shows up in /include/libavformat [21:29] under /usr [21:29] JasonosaJ (n=Jasonosa@pool-72-69-225-228.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:30] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "leaving" [21:31] Action: BP{k} double checks and builds gegl. [21:33] evo_ (n=evo@p4FD4BF81.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:34] jonsmith1982: WFM. ffmpeg is not a dependency. [21:35] at this moment in time, baring any other evidence I am gonna go and blame gimp-2.6 for weird errors. [21:35] otep (n=otep@AP-203.167.31.158.sysads.com) joined ##slackware. [21:35] U-Neeks (i=555@200.140.0.228) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:36] U-Neeks (i=555@200.140.0.228) joined ##slackware. [21:36] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:39] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-51.york.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:41] Sounds like something that gegl *can* link is linked against avformat, which is no longer on the system. I smell LP. [21:41] BP{k}, gegle doesn't know how to work with later ffmpegs (it will build off ffmpeg from slack 12.1 repo @ SBo tho). Gimp doesn't use gegl for ffmpeg anyway at this time, so probably best for users to just remove ffmpeg build gegl then reinstall ffmpeg afterwards. just my 0.02 [21:42] BP{k}, it's supposed to be for the 'gap' gimp animation package support, the whole gegl/ffmpeg thing. [21:43] BP{k}, it probably might just need a simple avcode.h link liek was discussed on sbo mailing list when mocp was broken [21:43] BP{k}, but I never tested that [21:44] I downloaded the madwifi slackbuilds (drive and tools). Before this i had a device called wlan0. Since their install i now have no device. The only reason i was trying to install the madwifi drivers is to see if it adds dev.wifi0 section for sysctl. I am trying to get the wifi light to work. ath_hal and ath_pci modules are loaded. not sure why it's not creating a device. Maybe a lost cause? [21:44] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:44] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-125-128.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [21:45] agentc0re, linus took the code out for the wifi light remember when I was talking about the acer with ya. There's some code in ath5k cvs for it, but I've yet to try it. [21:45] Old_Fogie: I was more commenting on the "ffmpeg isn't listed as a dependency of gegl" [21:45] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-125-128.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:45] evo- (n=evo@p4FD4C9AE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:45] BP{k}, it's not a depend, but if it see's it yea it'll try n build with it. [21:45] then fail. [21:46] Probably by now, gentoo or some other distro has some .diff to fix gegl, I haven't checked in a while. [21:47] I don't use gimp animation pack anyhow, so for my needs, I rather not link to more stuff just cuz [21:47] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust80.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:47] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:47] Action: Old_Fogie points out that this is why you dev off of a _clean_ box [21:48] gegl vs. 0.0.22 now looks in the right folder for avformat.h and avcodec.h [21:48] copy on write VM images FTW [21:48] i used copy on writes to make my pam packages [21:48] Old_Fogie: Oh, no i don't remember that part. All I remember was you saying you couldn't figure it out. [21:48] Old_Fogie: :/ oh well. [21:48] agentc0re, it works in 2.6.26 kernel. not in 27 or 28 [21:49] agentc0re, linus probably didn't want us to look at the 'blinken lights' [21:49] thought it would confuse users and all, he is a gnome user now, that's my conspiracy theory at least :) [21:49] wait what blinking lights? [21:49] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:50] wifi light on atheros for acer laptops [21:50] AEnima1577 (n=asdfjkl@nc6521e9f.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [21:50] hmm [21:50] hruodland (n=user@pool-70-107-215-198.ny325.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:50] i am trying to instal sbopkg [21:50] the sysctl controls are all *poof* gone [21:50] you gusy have all the kernel LED stuff enabled right? [21:50] AEnima1577: and? [21:50] i downloaded the tar, renamed it to tar.gz, untarred it, and now it still wont run [21:51] Old_Fogie: Oh btw. I got my sound working by using a 2.6.28 kernel. Not sure what's different between our soundcards, i haven't compared them yet. Heh, took only 2 hours or so to build. [21:51] what am i missing? [21:51] renamed a tar to tar.gz? why? [21:51] it wasnt a tar orginally [21:51] it was .... .tgz [21:51] agentc0re, ah good to "hear" :) NO I haven't tried latest 28 yet. I had tried 28.3 28.4 and ath5k wouldnt connect at all. but is flawless for me on 27 [21:51] lol [21:51] Action: nullboy walks away [21:51] AEnima1577: like sbopkg-0.26.2-noarch-1_cng.tgz [21:52] yes, BP{k} [21:52] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl65-55.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [21:52] agentc0re: please read and understand installpkg(8) and go read the good book at slackbook.org especially chapter 18 [21:52] renew, oh yea? good to know tho, I'll check it out. [21:52] AEnima1577, if you trust where you got it from, you can use "installpkg file.tgz" to install it [21:52] AEnima1577: please read and understand installpkg(8) and go read the good book at slackbook.org especially chapter 18 [21:53] BP{k}: ... what did i say that i needed to be pointed to that? [21:53] agentc0re: sorry about that :) tabfail. [21:53] AEnima1577: bottomline is you just extracted a package...not a tarball [21:53] BP{k}: Drinking a little too much are we? [21:53] ;) [21:53] o [21:53] agentc0re: no. :P [21:53] still me, thank you [21:53] silly* [21:53] agentc0re: perhaps that is the problem. :) [21:53] agentc0re, it's a case of 1 BP{k} 0 [21:54] Old_Fogie: LOL [21:54] gento0o0o0 (n=er@189-47-251-74.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:54] friends dont let friends drink and [21:54] adrenaline (n=repsol@tuxhacker/adrenaline) joined ##slackware. [21:56] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-125-128.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [21:56] . 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[21:59] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [21:59] jonsmith1982, yw :) [22:00] i'm waiting for a kernel to compile on a celeron 500 with 256megs of ram [22:00] jonsmith1982: I don't know if you have a build script, but if not, you might have a look in my sources dir [22:00] it's been running for an hour [22:00] jonsmith1982: http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/12.2/sources/gimp/ [22:00] jonsmith1982: that's 2.6.4, but a simple VERSION change should be enough to build 2.6.5 [22:00] nullboy, never took that long on my celeron 500 [22:01] Let's just hope one of these days, imagemagick and ffmpeg have a _stable_release with solid api/abi and issues like jonsmith1982's won't happen. [22:01] straterra: probably because your whole system was better than this POS [22:01] Old_Fogie: amen [22:01] heh [22:01] yes [22:01] twas my gaming rig [22:01] this is just a SiS620 motherboard [22:01] Action: jonsmith1982 nods persuasively [22:01] ewww sis [22:02] boy howdy [22:02] kill it [22:02] lol [22:02] quickly before it infects me [22:02] omg it's moving! [22:02] nullboy: inbreeding and gene pool depletion has lead to infearer trolls. [22:02] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.28.154) joined ##slackware. [22:02] hahaha [22:02] http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ <--- no paypal button, what a shame [22:02] and sia chipsets [22:03] XGizzmo_: that is the most awesomestestest explaination ever [22:03] sis [22:03] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:03] i love ircing on my ipod [22:03] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [22:03] anyone knows if the sendmail slackware configuration can be secure enough? [22:03] yes [22:03] straterra, you can irc on an ipod? [22:03] hruodland (n=user@pool-70-107-215-198.ny325.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [22:03] but postfix is easier [22:04] Old_Fogie: yes [22:04] there's a sendmail process that seems to run with root privileges [22:04] ironically, I can figure out sendmail and config it, but I can't do windows in irssi :) [22:04] i do from my ipod and my phone [22:04] that doesnt look very good [22:04] straterra, huh I didn't know that. [22:05] im leeeeeet [22:05] yes you are, may I touch the hem of thy garment :) [22:05] i should sell my leet in a jar and call it leetsauce [22:05] but then you'll run out of leet [22:06] ao inbred trolls may have a future [22:06] liea [22:06] straterra, they pay $50 bux a cup at the sperm bank for leetsauce here [22:06] my leet is neverending [22:07] like dadexters WoW addiction [22:07] 50 bucks a cup? [22:07] i am down [22:07] i'll whip up 10 batches for 50 bucks per cup [22:07] yeah but you have to be able to walk n chew bubble gum same time, so counts me out [22:08] i should charge my gf that much for a cup [22:08] if you find a way how, I'd *love* to know [22:08] Action: rworkman suspects straterra will get a lesson in free market economics. [22:08] chloroform [22:08] lies [22:08] hba (n=hba@189.188.145.77) joined ##slackware. [22:09] lol [22:09] she will get a lesson in 'smell my rag' [22:10] pattwo (n=admin@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:10] i need to sleep [22:11] im going to chicago and milwaukee tomorow [22:11] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [22:11] road trip! [22:11] with an ibm 3550 [22:11] Action: Old_Fogie humms... "git your motor running...head out on the highway... [22:12] later [22:12] night [22:16] I log in run level 3 then login as a user. I want a script to start when I login as a user where do I put the script that I want to run when I log in? [22:17] Does that make sense [22:17] adrenaline: define "log in" [22:17] hmm [22:17] TopBunny88 (n=topgun17@adsl-225-14-20.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] ok [22:18] If you mean the *actual* login, then that's easy. [22:18] $ repsol [22:18] password ***** [22:18] is there a boot only iso immage of slackware? [22:18] startx [22:18] hunter2 [22:18] crap [22:18] lol [22:18] adrenaline: sounds like you should see bash(1)'s section on invocation. [22:18] ok [22:19] TopBunny88: you can use the first iso for that [22:19] jkwood: i hope that isn't a password because your passwords are teh suck if it is! [22:19] jkwood: what? all i saw was ******* [22:19] jkwood: it's okay, your password showed up as ******* here [22:19] ick. the bunny is back [22:19] i [22:19] 'm at my unis oday in a tent [22:19] Oh, right. I forgot how awesome irssi is with passwords. [22:19] no fan, no air con. my eeepc is virtually idle. the cpu core is 64C [22:19] jkwood: that's not very... secure [22:19] nullboy, not my real password hehe [22:20] I didn't [22:20] I seen jkwood password [22:20] Your mom isn't very secure. [22:20] your face isn't very secure [22:20] jkwood: My mom can hold her own [22:20] i'm waiting for my eeepc to melt [22:20] aceofspades19: Is there a way to configure salckware so that on first boot you havre a graphical environment? [22:20] Your face looks like it's already been run against a valgrinder. [22:21] rworkman, I don't think that is what I am asking [22:21] TopBunny88: yes. [22:21] rworkman: Hey! I think I have that picture of you somewhere [22:21] Action: mbhayes looks [22:21] someone needs to start reading and stop typing [22:21] TopBunny88: changing the default init to 4 when you have X running properly [22:21] I think I just want it to run automatically when I log in. Can't I add it to a rc.local or something? [22:21] I FOUND IT! [22:21] http://cdn.davesdaily.com/pictures/905-fugly.jpg [22:21] mbhayes: I don't even want to know :) [22:21] now now, let's stop picking on each other and spend $energy on something more special, like picking on ubunut [22:21] kitche, then I know your password [22:21] oh dayyym mbhayes [22:21] afk [22:21] or should I say $BUNTU [22:21] that's rworkman after the lemonparty [22:21] spook: O supoes you do that in a inittab file right/ [22:21] adrenaline: rc.local is run a system startup. [22:22] i'll never be the same again [22:22] TopBunny88: yes [22:22] adrenaline: if you want it run after login, then bash invocation *is* what you want. [22:22] nullboy: images.google.com an google-fu [22:22] lol [22:22] ok I will study more [22:22] it is kind of confusing [22:22] Old_Fogie: I take it you like bashing $BUNTU parties too [22:22] adrenaline: if you want it run after you start X, then see if your desktop env has an autostart feature. [22:22] hey Old_Fogie what do you think of the beheading case that is getting national news lately [22:22] ok [22:22] aceofspades19, hee hee [22:23] kitche: pfft.. I'm still pissed at the woman who has 13 kids, no job, and wants the government to help her with everything. [22:23] AEnima1577 (n=asdfjkl@nc6521e9f.cns.vt.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:23] kitche, I was totally shocked when I heard it, my wife just told me about it actually, I gotta read more on that. [22:23] mbhayes: did someone shave an orangutan for that pic??? Wow. [22:23] spook: Isd there i 64bit iso for slackware? [22:23] mbhayes, you do know her house is in foreclosure right..so osama's gonna help her too [22:23] rworkman: hehe [22:23] Syco54645_AAO (n=frank@207-255-45-079-dhcp.jst.pa.atlanticbb.net) joined ##slackware. [22:23] TopBunny88: more info is here: http://sweet.nodns4.us [22:23] mbhayes: 14 kids [22:23] Old_Fogie: Yeah its in foreclosure because.. oh yeah.. she doesn't have a fsckin' job [22:23] TopBunny88: theres slamd64, the official unofficial port of slackware to 64bit. it is multilib meaning it runs both 32 and 64 bit [22:24] hello, is there a way to add just ftdi to the kernel without recompiling the entire thing? [22:24] Syco54645_AAO: what's ftdi? [22:24] mbhayes, yup and she got her face to look like that jolie broad from disability income, you gotta luv it [22:24] isn't bluewhite64 the best 64 bit slackware? :P [22:24] phunkedelik (n=phunkede@ip-70-38-12-153.static.privatedns.com) joined ##slackware. [22:24] they are really coming out of the woodwork today [22:24] Action: spook loads up the frozen eel cannon [22:24] Action: aceofspades19 waits to get owned [22:24] rworkman, its a usb serial driver [22:24] Old_Fogie: make sense.. blow tax payers money so you can claim you need more help.. [22:24] aceofspades19: ... dont even joke [22:24] needed for arduino [22:24] Syco54645_AAO: you can built it as a module [22:25] hi phunkedelik [22:25] s/built/build [22:25] mbhayes, did you see the pictures of her when she was pregnant? it looked like something out of the movie "Alien", no joke, it was inhuman. [22:25] word [22:25] CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_FTDI_SIO=m [22:25] Syco54645_AAO: have you tried loading the module? [22:25] rworkman, it was never built [22:25] Action: spook fires the frozen eel cannon at aceofspades19's crotch [22:25] Old_Fogie: The fact she had those many kids already... I don't care how much she "loves" kids... its about the money [22:25] ow [22:25] that wasn't nice [22:25] Old_Fogie: what? did he put his d0ng down her throat and got her preggers? [22:25] rworkman, but let me try [22:25] Old_Fogie: I'm willing to bet that she filed taxes too and got a chunk of change back [22:25] its not my fault bluewhite64 is the best :p [22:25] hahaha [22:25] aceofspades19: its not. [22:26] spook: and thats why I put the :p [22:26] /lib/modules/2.6.27.7-smp/kernel/drivers/usb/misc/ftdi-elan.ko [22:26] /lib/modules/2.6.27.7-smp/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/ftdi_sio.ko [22:26] mbhayes, just think she'll go bankrupt, then get book and movie deals. [22:26] rworkman, module not found [22:26] Syco54645_AAO: ^^ [22:26] Old_Fogie: yep [22:26] mbhayes: our society is setup to prop people like that up. it is designed to make it difficult for people who have a grasp on real life and easy for the idiots [22:26] Old_Fogie: gotta love america [22:26] aint' that the truth mbhayes [22:26] spook: you need to fix your sarcasm o meter [22:26] aceofspades19: dont joke using absolute fud please. [22:26] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-72-224-255-142.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:26] nullboy: Well from now on maybe I should be a drunken fool who pisses himself.. then I can blame it on a "crappy" childhood and the fact I have aliens in my brain [22:26] rworkman, i have never compiled a kernel on here. this is my aspire one, i am using some other kernel that someone else did. it is stripped down for fast boot time [22:26] aceofspades19: for people who dont know it will only confuse them. [22:27] compiling a kernel on here takes about an hour and a half [22:27] mbhayes: yep, i'm considering the same route ;) [22:27] just trying to not have to do that [22:27] spook: so I guess we can't joke on irc because it might confuse someone [22:27] Action: aceofspades19 rolls eyes [22:27] nullboy: what irks me are these jackasses that do just enough to get by.. then file taxes.. claim all these exceptions and get 7,000 bucks back from the government. [22:27] Heh, more aspire one's, yey! [22:27] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" [22:27] nullboy, you better file now, Calif looks like it's one step from bankruptcy [22:27] aceofspades19: just not about bluewhite64 [22:27] agentc0re, is that a good thing or a bad thing? [22:27] Syco54645_AAO: I have one myself. did you just get it? [22:27] mbhayes: blame the lawmakers [22:28] Syco54645_AAO: ohhhh. well, it *might* be possible, but it may not be easy. If you have some other hardware that you build the kernel and modules on and then transfer them to the aa1, that would be better [22:28] agentc0re, nah, had it for a while now [22:28] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) joined ##slackware. [22:28] Old_Fogie: i am filing tomorrow, but California is already giving IOUs out. at least i'll get my fed refund though [22:28] nullboy: when someone like me pays taxes.. pays mortgage on time.. pays everything on time.. I get screwed like bubba's bitch [22:28] rworkman, well i have them on my desktop, but that is a 64 bit machine [22:28] mbhayes, it happens every ten years, recession circle. get used to it (sadly I say this as I _dont_ like it) [22:28] agentc0re, would you happen to have the modules for this? cant hurt to ask i suppose [22:28] mbhayes: the people who try the hardest to make it are the ones who get the short end. it's sad but true [22:29] Old_Fogie: oh I know.. I remember the last one.. nothing like this though but still.. once it passes.. things get MUCH better [22:29] nullboy: yeah.. maybe I can market noobfarm as an "idiot magnet" and make millions by weeding out darwinian's theory? [22:29] ;) [22:29] hahaha [22:30] Syco54645_AAO: Well...kind of. Probably not the ones you need though. I have the new model and it uses different ones and i also had to use the latest kernel to get everything working. [22:30] wait... [22:30] Action: mbhayes searches noobfarm for rworkman ... [22:30] GET HIM! [22:30] lmao [22:30] :) [22:30] Old_Fogie: this recession is all $BUNTU's fault :p [22:30] yeah rworkman has some goodies there [22:30] lol [22:30] aceofspades19, hahah [22:30] n00bfarm respects rworkman. get over it. [22:30] i blame nubuntu [22:30] I like the one about the gpg key. :) [22:30] its damn security features [22:30] phunkedelik: lol nub buntu [22:30] agentc0re, would the ftdi be any different though? i dont think they have touched the code since 2006. and i am not sure if the new model aao would matter there [22:30] ananke, yup he's a top artist there. I particularly liked the gpg key one. [22:31] ya rly [22:31] though i wish i had the new 10.1 inch [22:31] rworkman I figured out what you said but now my problem is that the program I want to run needs root to do what I need and I don't want to be envoked with a password [22:31] oh btw [22:31] Found another "classic" on noobfarm from The Man himself: http://noobfarm.org/?id=682 [22:31] TopBunny88 (n=topgun17@adsl-225-14-20.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:31] heh. [22:32] mbhayes: don't make fun of my emacs grrr :p [22:32] heh [22:32] Syco54645_AAO: I don't recall the *exact* procedure for what you want to do, but it involves using "make menuconfig" to configure the module to be build, then cd to $sourcedir/drivers/usb/serial and "make ftdi_sio.o" [22:32] nix_chix0r, did you blow up yet? [22:32] I didn't [22:32] PV did :P [22:32] I didn't know emacs took long while to build. I boycott it, it's too damn ugly to be used in this house. [22:32] hahahahaha [22:32] Old_Fogie: where do you live? [22:32] Old_Fogie: Emacs is big enough it could have its own country... [22:32] :p [22:32] aceofspades19, near buffalo, ny [22:32] before too long we'll have to put it on its own iso [22:32] Syco54645_AAO: there may very well be more to that ; I always have to read up on docs when I do that. Since I have fast hardware now, I just don't bother any more :) [22:33] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] Old_Fogie: I'm going to have to bombard your house with flashdrives with emacs on them [22:33] rworkman, i have been looking for docs but not finding anything [22:33] adrenaline: what is it exactly that you want to do? [22:33] aceofspades19, heh. seriously,that is ugly software. [22:33] Syco54645_AAO: well, give what I said above a try; worst case scenario - you're no worse off than you are now. [22:33] I want to chmod 777 /dev/dsp and /dev/audio and such [22:33] why? [22:33] adrenaline: why? [22:33] Old_Fogie: but it does everything [22:33] er.. [22:33] oh no here we go [22:33] literally [22:34] rworkman, you owe me a coke for that [22:34] because I cannot use my sound card as a user only as root for some reason [22:34] Old_Fogie: which one? [22:34] rworkman, same thing that happened when i tried to make it before with a custom make file, just errors out hard core. [22:34] more like a coke line :P [22:34] adrenaline: did you listen to what adduser told you to do? [22:34] uggh I'm going to have to rebuild emacs so it doesn't depend on X [22:34] If I manually change those files sound works but when I reboot it goes back and I lose my sound card [22:34] do you like the interface changes to gimp 2.6? [22:34] rworkman, old saying if two people said same thing same time, the guy who was later, owed the quicker one the coke. dunno, maybe it was an 'in my neighborhood as kid thing' [22:34] superGear (n=supergea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:34] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust80.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [22:34] I must have missed it null boy [22:34] jonsmith1982: I hate gimp 2.6 [22:34] nullboy, [22:34] I will scroll back [22:34] adrenaline: if ! grep -q $USER $(groups) ; then printf "Add $USER to audio group \n\n" ; fi [22:35] aceofspades19: how come? [22:35] adrenaline: adduser told you to hit the arrow to populate the groups [22:35] phunkedelik: because its too photoshop like [22:35] adrenaline: need to run alsactl store after you make changes so it saves them. [22:35] Action: mbhayes if's rworkman [22:35] I like gimp 2.4 [22:35] heh [22:35] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:35] Old_Fogie: oh. I thought you meant you shit one out. [22:35] if im doing editing im usually on my dads windows box [22:35] er, sPit one out. [22:35] i used correll draw [22:35] It is the devices not the server agentc0re [22:35] its great [22:36] fuck its hot [22:36] nullboy, I don't understand "hit the arrow" [22:36] Action: Old_Fogie thinks that one day we'll see all 100 distro's at distrowatch are ubunut forks? I do. I guess two more years [22:36] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] Old_Fogie: You hate the ubuntu forks too? [22:36] adrenaline: btw, that line I pasted above is horribly broken, but hopefully the point was clear. [22:37] yup [22:37] "Press ENTER to continue without adding any additional groups Or press the UP arrow to add/select/edit additional groups" [22:37] what does the -M parameter for the useradd command? [22:37] when you added your user you just hit enter didn't you [22:37] I hate how someone releases an iso of ubuntu with a different background and its a "distro" [22:37] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:37] I chuckled, when I read that hp is going to certify ubunut for servers [22:37] its more of a repackage than a new distro [22:37] Old_Fogie: WHAT?? [22:37] like kubuntu xubuntu etc [22:38] agentc0re, e-e-e-yup [22:38] ubuntu is _not_ a server distro [22:38] they all use the same repos, just packaged in the iso differently [22:38] tis' now [22:38] I would use red hat before ubuntu [22:38] its NOT a server distro [22:38] ubuntu comes in desktop server and alternate [22:38] nullboy, are you saying in the gui? [22:38] yes it is [22:38] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [22:38] I hope that the admins that buy those hear a wookie on the other end of the phone. [22:38] adrenaline: what gui? adduser is not a gui [22:38] if ! groups | grep -q $USER ; then printf "Add $USER to audio group \n\n" ; fi [22:38] When calling for tech support that is. [22:38] I am not adding a user [22:38] There ^^ that actually works. [22:38] rworkman: no one listens [22:39] slackware, then maybe redhat.... and last is ubuntu, as a server distro [22:39] adrenaline: you aren't getting the point...your user is probably not a member of the groups it needs to be and adduser would have done that for you [22:39] spook++ [22:39] I spose it's so the windows admin's feel more at home, I dunno. [22:39] I added my user to all of hte groups in /etc/group [22:39] don't leave out opensuse [22:39] using ubuntu as a server is almost as bad as using windows as a server [22:39] spook: Ya, would only use a redhat server for a piece of software that i was getting support for required one of their supported distros. [22:40] well not all but all of the ones that use the audio and admin [22:40] Windows serves its purpose... no pun intended.. if done right.. it works well. [22:40] kickstart is very good [22:40] just for the record http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-8.10-server [22:40] i'd use ubuntu over windows O.o [22:40] adrenaline: show me output of "groups" command. [22:40] and even root but that did not work [22:40] mbhayes, I just got a circular from comp usa, had an hp netbook with opensuse on it. first time I saw that in print [22:40] thrice`: me too [22:40] Old_Fogie: hehe [22:40] Old_Fogie: OpenSUSE is not bad at all. [22:40] cannonical pays an entire group of people to make their server edition OK [22:40] thrice`, you'd hope, they got seeded with $30 mil to do so [22:41] thrice`: its not ok until it says slackware on it ;) [22:41] thrice`: The only real issue I ahve with Ubuntu as a server.. it still has debian's setup and patches... which can be nasty. [22:41] root sys adm floppy video cdrom plugdev repsol [22:41] ^ bingo. [22:41] rworkman ^ [22:41] hmmm, i had the module on here from a previous kernel. moved it but modprobe doesnt see it [22:41] any ideas? [22:41] Syco54645_AAO: rebuild it [22:41] Syco54645_AAO: yeah. It won't work. [22:41] figured [22:41] .... [22:42] Syco54645_AAO: just build the module you need already [22:42] ....... [22:42] dot dot dot is right [22:42] http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=114 - LOL [22:42] nullboy, it wont build [22:42] that is why i am here [22:42] which module? [22:42] you're doing it wrong then [22:42] ftdi [22:42] nullboy, yes probably, which is why i came here [22:42] agentc0re: yeah that guy.. was an idiot [22:43] mbhayes: HAHA that cracks me up. Blatant disregard of any knowledge of what he's using. [22:43] wierd thing is my user is in the /etc/group file under audio but it doesn't show up with the command groups [22:43] HAHA, The piano guy. [22:44] adrenaline: you need to log out and back in again. [22:44] adrenaline: after you added it to /etc/group (guessing), did you logout and back in? [22:44] Yes I have rebooted [22:44] agentc0re: when apache 2 was added to Slackware.. the bitch fest began.. then people started using apache 2 and started "loving" it... stupid band wagoneers [22:44] I didn't add that stuff today that was all added over a week ago [22:45] adrenaline: show me output of htis: grep ^audio /etc/group [22:45] its fairly trivial to use apache 1.3 if you want it [22:45] audio:x:17:root,mike,repsol [22:46] Something is screwy. Log out and back in. [22:46] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:46] If I login as group or change my uid to 0 it works fine or if I chmod 777 /dev/dsp it works till the next reboot [22:47] I haven't changed anything [22:47] WHAT? [22:47] er [22:47] "login as group" ?? [22:47] chmod +x is more efficient [22:47] :) [22:47] everything in /etc/group is how it has been [22:47] phunkedelik, chmod +x isn't the problem [22:47] grep audio /etc/group [22:47] and what does "whoami" return? [22:47] phunkedelik: you realize that chmod +x is not the same as chmod 777 right? [22:47] 03:45 < adrenaline> audio:x:17:root,mike,repsol [22:47] it doesn't even do the same thing [22:48] :( [22:48] rworkman: thanks [22:48] whoai is repsol [22:48] whoami is repsol [22:48] ls -al /dev/dsp [22:48] Man, google needs to delete from cache "chmod 0777 /dev/dsp" for crying out loud! [22:49] chmod is user local world correct? [22:49] crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 3 2009-02-19 18:42 /dev/dsp [22:49] user group everyone else [22:49] phunkedelik: "local world" ? [22:49] that will change if I reboot and sound will go away [22:49] well it has the correct major/minor numbers [22:49] but will work if I login as root only [22:49] phunkedelik: just man chmod already... [22:49] of course it will, that's the point of udev [22:49] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:49] the numbers.... [22:49] one is user [22:50] one is local [22:50] man chmod [22:50] wrong [22:50] then one is public [22:50] or world [22:50] wrong [22:50] yes we've reached the point where people 'login as group' and 'chmod local world' :) [22:50] phunkedelik: STOP [22:50] owner,group,world [22:50] adrenaline: sometihng is wrong. "Fixing" it with chmod works, but it's a workaround. [22:50] phunkedelik: man chmod [22:50] nullboy, ^^ [22:50] rworkman, yes [22:50] adrenaline: does it work when logged in as "mike" [22:50] rworkman, I know it is wrong but the work around works [22:50] nope it only works if I login as root [22:51] I think it is a known problem I see that other people have this problem too [22:51] adrenaline: create a new account on the box (be sure that user is added to audio group), then login as that user and see if it gets audio membership according to "groups" output. [22:51] udev/hal reload? (guessing, but maybe not) [22:51] restarting alsa [22:51] adrenaline: it's *gotta* be a pebkac issue somehow. [22:51] rworkman, agreed [22:51] cuz I'm an idiot and I got sound [22:51] wait I probably need to tell you something [22:51] heh [22:51] I am running dropline gnome [22:51] here we go [22:51] ! [22:51] omfg. [22:51] pulseaudio freak get out! :) [22:52] argh [22:52] don't freak out [22:52] how would that affect his users groups, though [22:52] Action: mbhayes gets a beer for rworkman [22:52] Action: Old_Fogie passes two tylenol's to rworkman [22:52] I have been using gnome forever and I like it [22:52] mbhayes, ++ [22:52] thrice`: uhhh it replaces a lot of packages [22:52] That's fucking annoying. [22:52] thrice`: some of which will influence what group/user interaction with the system [22:52] yes, but according to /etc/groups, his user should still be in audio [22:53] Doesn't mean something didn't get fucked during dropline's install [22:53] They ship PAM. They possibly ship PolicyKit, which handles all of this completely different. Long story short, I don't fucking know or care how they do it. Talk with them first and make sure what's going on isn't explained by a different between DLG and stock Slackware. [22:53] can mean alot of things, [22:53] how about the pulseaudio group, PAM, blah blah blah [22:53] on and on [22:53] shadow is the big one here :) [22:53] rworkman, shadow, cracklib too [22:53] yeah, I'm pretty sure with dropline you have to make a change to PAM as well.. but don't recall [22:54] I was just about to say that i thought dropline shipped with PAM. [22:54] I didn't mean to annoy you all I wanted to do is have script htat changes permissions during login. I thought that would be a slackware question [22:54] I'm not blaming DLG - so don't run over to their channel and say that -- I'm just saying that this is something that could likely be related to DLG. Therefore, it needs to start with them. [22:54] PAM = Death to all :P [22:54] PAm is not death to all [22:54] rworkman, I have a lot of respect for you [22:54] pam is just fine but it is an important little bit of information to know about.... [22:54] PAM isn't bad [22:54] just misunderstood [22:54] rworkman, yeah you confirmed his user is in group, you confirmed he has /dev/dsp there's nothing more too do on Slack side of things, he should go to DLG [22:54] adrenaline: I don't think you intentionally pissed anyone off, and don't worry - I'll get over it :) It's just that this sort of thing happens too often :/ [22:55] I guess i misunderstand it then. Maybe one day i'll read more about it. [22:55] now would be a good time... [22:55] I didn't mean to hide anything I was just going to do the workaround rather than fix the issue because it was an easy work around so I thought [22:55] mbhayes, 'misunderstood' yup [22:55] we don't want you ending up on noobfarm [22:55] i know pam pretty well http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/pam_integration_12.2.slackbuild && http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/slack-12.2-xdm-swipe-or-type.jpg [22:55] he [22:55] ok so its... owner group other.... [22:55] h [22:56] adrenaline: well, the workaround is to do the chmod in /usr/local. If you want a real solution, check with DLG :) [22:56] I installed PAM to get Vmware Server 2.0 working [22:56] nullboy, ah I take a look [22:56] mbhayes: why wouldn't you just use virtual box? [22:56] rworkman, thank you and sorry for any missunderstanding [22:56] aceofspades19: because this was on a server that's actually serving VPS machines [22:57] Syco54645_AAO (n=frank@207-255-45-079-dhcp.jst.pa.atlanticbb.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:57] Action: adrenaline goes to #DLG thanks again [22:57] nullboy: why screen, out of curiosity ? [22:57] adrenaline: no worries. You're a regular here, so a mishap is a bit more tolerable (whether right or wrong). [22:57] :) [22:57] softy [22:57] Action: Old_Fogie hides [22:57] thrice`: because screen can take auth from PAM [22:57] run Old_Fogie run [22:58] hahah [22:58] Don't trip over your walker. [22:58] iron lung.. [22:58] yea really [22:58] Imagine trying to get through aiport security with that on... [22:58] "hey what the fuck is that?" ... would you believe me if I said my "wallet?" [22:59] LOL [22:59] hba (n=hba@189.188.145.77) left irc: "leaving" [22:59] http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=1432 [22:59] thrice`: you can restrict screen usage via PAM too [23:00] sigh....rebuilding emacs on a pentium 3 is going to take awhile [23:00] aceofspades19: removepkg(8) is faster. [23:00] as in possibly several years [23:00] rebuilding emacs at all is asking for eternal damnation [23:01] isn't that why slackware bundles emacs in e/ [23:01] so it's easier to skip? ;) [23:01] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] heh [23:01] I took 'e' out to make room for 'g' [23:01] Motoko-chan: how'd the server migration go? [23:02] rworkman: maybe emacs should be in the jfctih/ package set [23:02] The IP migration went well. [23:02] Lots of stuff should be. [23:03] Motoko-chan: awesome [23:03] Since most machines were static DHCP, I just edited dhcpd.conf, changed the firewall, and restarted. [23:03] hehe [23:03] that's the way to do it [23:03] Few minor glitches from the NAS data move related to permissions. [23:03] "I have a static IP!".... er .. yeah you keep thinking that... ;) [23:03] Motoko-chan: that's definitely to be expected [23:03] Although I'm running into an old problem with the firewall, VPN, and NAT. [23:03] F***ing Watchguard... [23:03] Motoko-chan: VPN established but no internal communication? [23:04] watchguard... oh god [23:04] The firewall is also the VPN appliance. [23:04] Motoko-chan: Why not something like.. Cisco ASA? [23:04] I'm using PPTP right now. [23:04] ew [23:04] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [23:04] bleh [23:04] Motoko-chan: I feel your pain though [23:04] Problem is you try to use SMB across from a location with NAT, and get "spoofed source address" [23:04] I'm grateful I work with Cisco ;) [23:04] And a huge deny. [23:04] Motoko-chan: some sort of acl issue? [23:04] Which means our accountants can't get to the financial documents. [23:04] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:05] Not an ACL, just the Firebox being stupid. [23:05] ah [23:05] I haven't worked with those very much.. [23:05] Oh, even more fun is the configuration app is Windows-only [23:05] only long enough to repalce them with a cisco asa [23:05] The protocol is encrypted, supposedly. [23:05] Motoko-chan: The reset p rocedure for those watchguards.. is the weirdest damn thing I've ever seen [23:05] If you have a free ASA to send over, it'd be nice [23:05] Motoko-chan: haha sorry.. no extras :( [23:06] I'm running off a T1, so even a SOHO one would work. [23:06] I have to finish up a Cisco 1721 tomorrow [23:06] Right now, I'm investigating OpenVPN. [23:06] Motoko-chan: if you can catch acidchild.. he knows his shit when it comes to openvpn [23:06] there's even a windows client that works with openvpn iirc [23:07] There is. [23:07] I figure if the VPN is all tunneled through to my utility box, the Firebox can be ignored. [23:07] right on [23:07] Sad thing is the Firebox runs Linux. [23:07] But the config tools won't run on it. [23:08] Motoko-chan: I'm actually working with a client.. over a DSL issue.. wher ethey say the DSL has problems.. but I can TELL from the router it hasn't dropped in over a week... [23:08] Wine kinda works, but breaks. Crossover does work with them. [23:08] I find out that they are losing the VPN tunnel... [23:08] and guess what it is? A firebox [23:08] Ah. [23:08] yeah [23:09] They want me to send a tech out to "troubleshoot" from the dslam to the nid [23:09] If it's a Firebox III, it can be converted to run Monowall. [23:09] no.. no... no [23:09] There's not a damn thing wrong with the DSL [23:09] There's some crazy procedure I found to do so. [23:09] I was considering once we replace it with something sane. [23:09] and I have some idiot who posts his "certifications" all over his email signature telling me how he manages 50+ DSL circuits... [23:09] yah!? I manage over 400! [23:09] 50+? Oh wow. I'm so not impressed. [23:10] its more like 1000.. but you get the picture [23:10] Either they are really troublesome circuits, or you're an idiot. [23:10] He's an idiot [23:10] Not you, but rather that guy. [23:10] He thinks talking like that will phase me.. he's wrong. [23:10] Motoko-chan: Oh I know who you meant. [23:10] I manage over 30 servers! [23:10] Take that! [23:11] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" [23:11] I told my supervisor today.. I'll answer him via email but I'm not working on the problem anymore.. its not the DSL.. I don't care how he says the "troublesome" circuit needs to be replaced.. good.. tell the client they have to get a new phone line. [23:11] Motoko-chan: hehe [23:11] (And the network, and the VOIP, and the backups, and am in-house user support, and am helpdesk...) [23:11] Motoko-chan: If I count our two NOCs and all of our clients... I have no idea how many servers I hlep to maintain.. [23:11] not to mention the "side" projects I have [23:11] I'm talking direct responsibility. [23:11] same here [23:11] well the works tuff [23:12] Motoko-chan: I am about half that where i work. But i also do all desktop support as well (it's all really split between me and another co-worker). [23:12] Motoko-chan: who's your VOIP provider? [23:12] We are currently using TierZero. [23:12] It's a hosted solution. [23:12] who the fuck is that? [23:12] Action: mbhayes googles [23:12] Cheaper at the time than hosting the box ourselves and buying lines. [23:13] TZ is a SoCal ISP. [23:13] hosted solutions usually are cheaper [23:13] http://tierzero.net/ [23:13] Anyway, check out this topic: http://www.theadminzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59049 [23:13] just in case you ever are lookin for alternatives.... [23:13] http://www.tls.net/solutions/voip_services/hosted_pbx.php [23:13] Let me know what you think of my response. [23:13] At work, we are thinking of dropping our T1. [23:13] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:14] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [23:14] We have TimeWarner Telecom (twtelecom now...) across the hall. [23:14] They have mucho fiber in the building. [23:14] For their own ops. [23:15] Thats what i have for my network :). Well at least what's connecting all my external offices and internet. It's called QMOE. [23:16] the cost of it for my whole company was that of a cost of a ds3. [23:16] We're keeping TZ for the T1 for now. [23:16] They'll guarantee the VOIP quality on their network. [23:16] heh [23:16] BitUnique (n=bituniqu@85.221.51.105) joined ##slackware. [23:16] Once the contract on that ends, we'll probably move. [23:16] with fiber.. it wouldn't matter [23:16] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust80.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left ##slackware ("I've got a shed and im going to tinker in it"). [23:16] Motoko-chan: what type of voIP phones you using? [23:17] QMOE as in Qwest? [23:17] Motoko-chan: yes. [23:17] any one here got a nice little tutorial on seting up FreeDos on a usb? [23:17] They are Polycom SoundPoint IP 430 units. [23:17] ahhh [23:17] the middle step child [23:17] :) [23:17] Qwest can't tell a router port from a hole in the ground. [23:18] haha. [23:18] Action: Motoko-chan remembers them routing RFC-1918 addresses... [23:18] qwest isn't bad.. just dpeends on which department you're working on [23:18] Well where i live, i don't have any better choice. [23:18] They were advertising 10. on their uplink. [23:18] Middle step child? [23:18] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:18] middle ground between the 3xx and 5xx series [23:18] Ah. [23:19] They are decent units. [23:19] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:19] the 550s are nice.. and the 570's offer gigabit [23:19] Broadcom's VOIP product sucks though. [23:19] I have a 100MB fiber line. I give 20 to two offices and 30 to another and 10 to internet. [23:19] as do the 670's [23:19] err sorry, 100mb [23:19] We have 100mbit switches. [23:19] Gigabit wouldn't be too useful for the voip stuff anyway. [23:19] Do you use asterisk with those polycom's? [23:19] Motoko-chan: it would if you're doing HD audio [23:19] Action: Motoko-chan really needs to replace the twop switches... [23:19] Nick change: |kevlinux| -> kevlinux [23:19] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:20] agentc0re, it's hosted and they are using Broadsoft (not Broadcom) [23:20] which that would require at least an IP550 with bootrom 4.1.0 and firmware 3.x.x to get full support [23:20] Broadworks isn't too bad [23:20] I have one Catalyst switch with four bad ports. [23:20] The big thing with broadworks is.. GOTTA stay up with the releases [23:21] And another switch just came up with a bad port too. [23:21] Ouch, that sucks. [23:21] Don't you have a smartnet contract? [23:21] Something about a loopback packet not being received. [23:21] agentc0re, um, they were bought used a few years ago. [23:21] Well one was, the others are older. [23:21] Like over 8. [23:21] You can still get smartnet on used hardware ;_ [23:21] oh.. not 8 years old though [23:21] wahcordian|Work (n=wahcordi@97-119-183-187.albq.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] :) [23:21] One is a 2951 I think... [23:21] Motoko-chan: You can still get contracts on them regardless. [23:22] agentc0re: nope.. if they've end of lifed them.. good luck [23:22] We're cheap. [23:22] Oh. [23:22] and something that's 8 years old is more than likely end of lifed [23:22] I didn't know that. [23:22] I'm using a 3com Superstack III [23:22] the life cycle for cisco hardware is usually about 3 to 5 years depending onw hat it is. [23:22] For the internal network switch [23:22] I don't have much cisco gear... I actually only have my one 3650G. [23:22] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) joined ##slackware. [23:22] That's a 10mbit switch with two(!!!) 100mbit ports. [23:23] Motoko-chan: isn't that a half duplex switch...? [23:23] I think it's 10/Full [23:23] god.. I would hope so [23:23] especially with VoIP going across it hehe [23:23] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) joined ##slackware. [23:23] That is the internal server network. [23:23] hi [23:23] Motoko-chan: oh.. p hew [23:24] VOIP is on an unmanaged 100mbit one. [23:24] good [23:24] POE? [23:24] Nope. [23:24] Action: mbhayes nods [23:24] You think I have good hardware? [23:24] well.. I was hoping.. [23:24] :) [23:24] I think this is the server switch: http://www.3com.com/products/en_US/detail.jsp?tab=features&pathtype=purchase&sku=3C16987A-US [23:24] POE is dangerous anyways. [23:24] agentc0re: uhh how so? [23:24] It's not the SM, it's the 2U one. [23:25] ah [23:25] POE is only as dangerous as any other protocol that the admin doesn't understand [23:25] hi can i setup a gateway server...without NAT....? [23:25] ruben23: what? [23:25] ruben23: be more specific... [23:25] I've heard (no personal experience mind you) that with POE switches that you wont be able to fully utilize them without maxing them out. IE if you get a 48 port you might get 24 out of it if you are lucky. [23:25] ruben23: explain what you want to do [23:25] agentc0re: bullshit [23:25] Here's my rack at the office: http://www.animeneko.net/~motokochan/gallery/v/Computer+Stuff/Computers+at+Work/img064.jpg.html [23:25] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [23:25] agentc0re: whoever told you that.. is a moron [23:26] agentc0re: you must have heard that from one of the admins who don't know wtf they are talking about [23:26] I have clients running 48port POE switches and the switch barely breathes [23:26] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:26] Motoko-chan: that cableing is messy.. get to work! [23:26] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.158.122.188) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:26] Yeah, no cable management arms. [23:26] no need make your own! [23:26] Or rails, or anything... [23:26] :) [23:26] PVC pipe.. cheap.. [23:26] wire ties.. cheap [23:27] spray paint.. cheap [23:27] nullboy: Maybe. Honestly i have no experience in the area. [23:27] and yes.. I've done this before :) [23:27] mbhayes: Ha ha. [23:27] mbhayes: i have installed slackware and want it as a gateway server with 2 ethernet prots for WAN and local....can i setup it without having NAt.. [23:27] ruben23: do you know what NAT is for? [23:27] ruben23: not unless you have multiple external IPs [23:27] My network equipment is on a board over a trash tan [23:27] Motoko-chan: nice [23:27] Motoko-chan: HAHA [23:27] I use the can to hold the excess. [23:27] Motoko-chan: is that just in case.. so you can toss it out right as it dies ;) [23:28] nullboy:yes....Network address translation Public IP to local Ip [23:28] Excess wiring. [23:28] mbhayes:i have 5 Public static IP.... [23:28] firebird619 (i=jeremy@173-17-137-255.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [23:28] ruben23: how many hosts are on your LAN though? [23:28] ruben23, if you just want to use it as a router, investigate m0n0wall. [23:29] http://m0n0.ch/wall/ [23:29] ruben23: just keep in mind the dangers you get from running machines on the internet.. [23:29] Action: mbhayes shrugs [23:29] its definitely possible to run it as a router without nat. [23:29] brb [23:29] nullboy: i have 30 host [23:29] ruben23: then no [23:29] you will need NAt somewhere [23:29] well.. not necessarily... [23:30] nullboy:its like a VOIP gateway...for voice.. [23:30] yeah if he only wants 5 of the 30 hots to have access to the internet [23:30] rinovan (n=rinovan@125.164.238.27) joined ##slackware. [23:30] nullboy: could get a subnet hand off [23:30] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Connection timed out [23:30] subnet routed to the main WAN IP.. set the first usable somwhere for routing.. stick the rest on the hosts [23:30] similar to what I do with client routers when I install them [23:33] he has a block of 5 wan IPs though [23:33] and 30 hosts on the LAN already [23:33] Action: Motoko-chan returns [23:33] hmmm..wht would be the best setup.. [23:33] ruben23: why is NAT not usable for you? [23:34] mbhayes, sober enough to do the forum thing? [23:34] I think so [23:35] lol [23:35] need to know what username you want.. database name.. etc [23:35] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [23:35] guys...can i pastebin an image here... [23:35] just to see my current setup.. [23:35] ...ok [23:35] nullboy:how to paste image here..? [23:36] :-( [23:36] i don't think thast will help you now that i think about it [23:36] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:36] nullboy:just check my layout...please...then make comments.. [23:37] ruben23: what do you mean by "paste an image here" [23:37] KillerV (i=1000@bhe201062186041.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [23:37] how do you paste an image in irc? [23:37] username you can pick [23:37] BP{k}: how am i going to pastebin my network layout...here [23:37] yes.. [23:37] db name, I guess slackforum would work [23:37] http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add [23:37] something about aalib, I guess [23:37] ..... [23:37] We can discuss Slack on it too. [23:37] for crying out loud JUST GOOGLE IT [23:37] fsck sake [23:38] nullboy, just link to http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/ [23:38] Belch.......I've had a few good Danish beers:) Very good indeed! Faxe is a fine beer! [23:38] Motoko-chan: I was just going to do something like:motokochan.. [23:38] fofr the username [23:38] Motoko-chan: that's too cliche [23:38] That's fine. [23:38] godling, so? [23:38] Motoko-chan: Let me know when this goes live, I'll be the third signup. [23:39] Action: Motoko-chan will be #1! [23:39] I guess for domain, slackforum.slackadelic.com will work. [23:39] I don't think any of my domains will work well. [23:40] Motoko-chan: I'm just saying we need to come up with something new [23:40] Motoko-chan: PM coming your way [23:40] like maybe googleitorikillyourmother.com [23:40] haha [23:40] guys this is my network layout...pls check.. [23:40] http://imagebin.org/38852 [23:40] everytimeyoudontgooglegodkillsakitten.org [23:40] ... [23:40] i got two setup there... [23:40] the kitten killing thing is old too [23:40] Action: Motoko-chan was typin that... [23:40] Maybe... [23:40] googleordomokungetsit [23:41] ruben23: did you actually spend time designing this graphic? [23:41] Who is Domo-kun? [23:41] http://catmas.com/images/2006/10/cat-vs-domokun.jpg [23:41] googleitmoron.com [23:41] it looks like someone did [23:41] no, i want implied/real violence [23:41] that's the WHOLE point [23:41] yes... [23:41] godling: yes i did it.. [23:42] its about 2 weeks since i finish the design... [23:42] but i have worries to implement it.. [23:42] wow, you must have put a lot of work into it [23:42] ruben23: so how do you plan to do this without NAT? you even labeled it external IP and internal IP.... [23:42] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-110.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:42] i guess a better question is why not NAT in the first place? [23:43] Interesting... googleitmoron.com redirects to handicappedpets.com [23:43] nullboy:the point there is the linux server is existing router with NAT.. [23:43] ? [23:43] Should I be scared that there is a whole backstory for Domo-kun? [23:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domo-kun [23:43] i don't follow [23:43] what im having problem is my asterisk server....i dont want it too have NAT [23:43] why does it need to ? [23:43] Motoko-chan: Seems like typical marketing hubbub to me. [23:43] you don't need to NAT every box though.... [23:44] nullboy:but how do i set it up...to recognize my external Ip...? [23:44] the asterisk server.. [23:44] there is nothing wrong with have the LAN gateway with 1 public IP and VoIP on another IP [23:44] you route the asterisk box and NAT the lan hosts.... [23:45] you said you have 5 public IPs [23:45] so use them [23:45] nite all [23:45] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:45] i guess i don't see a problem really. [23:46] ok...so you mean i dont need to setup ip forward...and iptables for my asterisk(VOIP gateway) [23:46] nullboy: asterisk + NAT = bad [23:46] mbhayes: 2009-02-19 20:44:58) nullboy: you route the asterisk box and NAT the lan hosts.... [23:46] just input the external ip and local then its fine.. [23:46] ok [23:47] has anybody here switched from 12.1 to 12.2 and had dhcp problems on wlan0?? [23:47] rinovan (n=rinovan@125.164.238.27) left irc: "Dukung syariah & khilafah" [23:47] he has 5 public IPs...use 1 for the lan gateway and one for the asterisk box. then keep the lan hosts behind the NAT [23:47] I have to set my essid and key to something bogus, bring down wlan0, then bring it back up and set the essid and key up again then run dhcp to get connectivity on my wep enabled access point. [23:47] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:48] wahcordian|Work: works fine here [23:48] how my asterisk server recognize its external IP..? [23:48] wpa_supplicant works without a hitch tho. it's weird. [23:48] wahcordian|Work: so use wpa_supplicant then [23:48] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-110.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [23:49] nullboy, I'd rather not. If I go to a public access point at school I get the same problem. [23:49] wahcordian|Work: wpa_supplicant handles it all. wep, wpa, wpa2, EAP, plaintext. [23:49] it's a dhcp problem. [23:49] hmmm [23:49] .... [23:49] did not know that. [23:49] then set the dhcpcd time out to something higher [23:49] one sec [23:49] you probably didn't read the man page [23:49] :P [23:49] no no, this has worked just fine before. [23:49] forget it i give up [23:50] it dhcp sits there for about a minute and a half. [23:50] wahcordian|Work: what are your logs telling you? [23:50] aw shit gotta go [23:51] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready [23:51] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: PCI INT A disabled [23:51] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [23:51] Channel flood from wahcordian|Work -- kicking [23:51] iwlagn 0000:02:00.0: restoring config space at offset 0x1 (was 0x100102, writing 0x100106) [23:51] wahcordian|Work kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [23:51] note lines 28 and 31 http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10451 [23:51] dick [23:51] jane [23:51] spot! [23:52] shit [23:52] on jane's dress? [23:52] who forgot clean up spot's shit? [23:52] See rworkman; see rworkman shovel up the shit [23:52] How'd that get on her dress too? [23:52] ;) [23:52] i'm in the process of writing some documentation about slackware +wpa_supplicant because 99% of the people think wpa_supplicant only does WPA [23:52] mbhayes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kv84PNqunQ [23:52] nullboy: Yeah in the document it says one thing "use wicd" [23:53] using wpa_supplicant.conf for all your wifi needs is easy [23:53] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-222.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:53] you don't need wicd though [23:53] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:53] the stock scripts work great [23:53] godling: haha [23:53] godling: that's a great movie [23:53] nullboy, I' recommend adding to alienbob's wiki fwiw, since he has a nice right up, and would be nice supplement, (or the slackwiki if you don't want to deal with alienbobo). [23:54] i don't have a problem with alienBOB [23:54] Oh I do [23:54] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) left irc: "Leaving" [23:54] I have a big problem with him.. because he is BOB [23:54] well i do, i can't read his bash scripts [23:55] but i try [23:55] yeah either alienBOB's or slackwiki,you'll get good exposure that way, more penetration to other slackers, so on n so forth, since many go there [23:55] penetration is good [23:55] more penetration? [23:56] in the awareness sense of the word [23:56] :) [23:56] lol [23:56] tije (n=tije@189.175.8.163) joined ##slackware. [23:56] forgot where I was, I've been in work mode all night [23:56] you penetrate at work? [23:56] I wish [23:56] :) [23:57] Old_Fogie's pr0n name would be floppin' fogie [23:57] or Bubble Gum Daddy :) [23:57] lol [23:58] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) left ##slackware. [23:58] That's no kind of porn name. [23:58] godling: it worked for Old_Fogie all these years ;) [23:59] Action: Old_Fogie is now known as Human_TriPOD [23:59] that celeron 500 is STILL building [00:00] --- Fri Feb 20 2009