[00:00] lilo -v ? [00:00] no, just did lilo [00:01] sahko: That's *no-compat32.run, right? [00:01] yeah, they changed the naming with the 2xy.z series [00:01] its used to be pkg0 [00:02] Nice, tnx [00:02] http://pastebin.ca/1903379 [00:02] lilo -v [00:02] ^^^ [00:02] I'm getting scary DRDY ERR and IRC ABRT messages from the kernel. My big hard drive is my livelihood. Should I be scared? [00:04] byteframe, even if nothing is wrong.. if it's your livelihood, get a new one and back it up [00:04] s/scared/concerned. I'm already scared. [00:04] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [00:04] jeev, I do regular backups, but I want to know why. Overheating or something... [00:04] run a smart test and look at the numbes [00:04] nujmbers [00:05] Good idea, I'll do a long test. [00:06] john_dee (~id@78-106-242-22.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:06] See: http://pastebin.ca/1903381 [00:07] What am I doing wrong? [00:11] Is there something wrong with the kernel? or kernel modules/ [00:11] ? or...? [00:12] Please see: http://pastebin.ca/1903382 [00:12] I doubt it as you're the only person who has ever reported this. Is /lib/$(uname -r) populated? Since there was no error from lilo -v, the updated bootloader would have been written to the MBR. [00:13] Zaythan (zaythan@ip68-1-71-150.pn.at.cox.net) left ##slackware. [00:14] /lib/$(uname -r) ? [00:14] /lib/2.6.33.4-smp: No such file or directory [00:14] That's the directory that would contain your kernel modules of your running kernel. [00:14] uname -r [00:14] /lib/modules [00:15] /lib/modules/2.6.33.4-smp [00:15] I have ^^^^^ [00:15] john_dee (~id@78-106-242-22.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:15] Right, /lib/modules/$(uname -r) .. sorry. [00:15] sahko: ping? [00:16] whazzup? [00:16] mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.33.4-smp -m ext4 -f ext4 -r /dev/sda2 ??? [00:16] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:16] sahko: Have you seen the error about missing version.h when installing? [00:17] How about this?: http://pastebin.ca/1903386 [00:17] yeah i dont know what that is. ive even ask pprkut whos a master at this. didnt know either [00:17] sahko: How did you install then? It quits after that :\ [00:17] I suppose I'll try and boot again... [00:17] doesnt seem to affect anything and if you reinstall it doesnt appear [00:18] terry (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:18] godane (arch@c-75-68-6-221.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [00:18] hhhmm maybe you pressed no or something? [00:18] or yes when you should have pressed no [00:19] sahko: Nope, there's only ok button.. I think [00:19] Let me try one more time [00:20] terry (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [00:20] sahko: Nope, there's only ok button, then it suggests checking .log and README on nvidia's site [00:20] Ok. That worked. [00:21] mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.33.4-smp -m ext4 -f ext4 -r /dev/sda2 [00:21] as opposed to [00:21] john_dee: what does the log say? [00:21] mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.33.4 -m ext4 -f ext4 -r /dev/sda2 [00:21] Tnx all. [00:22] sahko: /longpath/version.h doesn't exist. Most likely because kernel source files have not been configured [00:22] Check log and README [00:23] are you running the kernel you're installing the driver for? [00:23] Nick change: Guest46631 -> RaNdY [00:23] RaNdY (~x@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) left irc: Changing host [00:23] RaNdY (~x@shellium/member/randy) joined ##slackware. [00:23] ok [00:23] sahko: Yes. I wonder if it could be related to mrproper I ran on the kernel tree :\ [00:25] Shouldn't be [00:25] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.233.214) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:25] It shows /lib/modules/.. path, not /usr/src, so mrproper couldn't have got there [00:25] maybe ask in #nvidia [00:26] happy happy happy! :_) [00:26] will sleep soon. [00:26] hippolitus the happy hippo [00:27] sahko: Here on freenode? [00:27] yeah, theres even some nvidia devs there. well, at least one [00:28] Hm. Google first [00:29] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:31] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-167-183.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Later,folks!! [00:33] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:33] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:34] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [00:34] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-252-87.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:35] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-252-87.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [00:35] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware. [00:35] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:35] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. 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[00:47] it's now official - I don't have a desktop at the office anymore, I'm working from a nice dell studio laptop [00:48] Lol...""bedroom conquests" aren't at all related to Slackware and won't be tolerated (unless some how they *are* related to Slackware, in which case we'd like to hear about them. ;^)" - you guys are funny XD... [00:49] SpartanV1 (~spartan@adsl-232-81-180.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [00:50] alisonken1lap: nice :) [00:50] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Client Quit [00:52] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-81-95.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:54] gezley (~gezley@86-42-210-43-dynamic.b-ras1.cld.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [00:54] john_dee (~id@78-106-242-22.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:59] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [00:59] hello? [01:01] ...hello? [01:03] Well, as of late I've sort of been distro hopping, currently on gentoo, I am wondering what slackware is like at the moment. I've used archlinux before, and it was pretty nice itself. I tend to want to use the latest release of most of the software I use. :\ Also a distro that has a 'cross-compiler' so I can compile 64bit and 32 bit applications whe necessary. o_O Not sure if what I want makes [01:03] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [01:03] much sense I'd just like to know how slack deals with package management :/ [01:03] zero7 (~crazy@78.101.33.101) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:04] cristianmanuel (~quassel@186.125.10.95) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:04] slack doesn't really deal with package management, it provides tools you can use to deal with it [01:04] Ah [01:05] So, is it mostly binary, or source-based, or what? o_O [01:05] i recommend reading the alt.os.linux.slackware faq too. its a nice read [01:05] AH [01:05] binary [01:06] not binary , not Slack [01:06] gh0 (~gh0@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:06] anyone here use AwesomeWM? [01:06] no [01:06] which do you use? [01:06] kwin [01:07] gh0: fvwm2 [01:07] or occasionally ratpoison [01:07] gh0: and occasionally xfce [01:11] does anyone know a good text-based Bit Torrent program? [01:11] btpd [01:12] SpartanV1: bittorrent [01:12] ah, thanks :) [01:13] SpartanV1, you could use rtorrent [01:13] BTW, is lilo necessary to use? D: I kind of prefer GRUB, or is it easy to replace lol... [01:13] sorry if its a dumb question just curious [01:13] Animeking: it's possible [01:13] BP{k}: yep - nice one :) [01:14] Animeking, what do you like about GRUB that you can't do with LILO just curious [01:14] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:15] Action: Animeking shrugs. [01:15] I'm more used to it, and think it looks nicer? o_O [01:16] Really, its mostly familiarity :/ [01:16] Animeking: grub is in the extra/ directory just below the slackware dir [01:17] Ah [01:17] I haven't installed it yet, I'm still reading the FAQs :P [01:17] if something already has legacy grub, i just stick with it [01:17] Animeking: after installing and configuring grub, i'd suggest you removepkg lilo [01:18] kk [01:18] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [01:20] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: porto alegre, jaja eu chego [01:20] I don't about you people but I prefer lilo I think it looks a lot nicer with the default screen, that being said I use the windows boot loader to choose between Slackware and Windows [01:21] Huh [01:21] I didn't even know the windows bootloader was usable with Linux D: [01:21] indeed [01:21] yessir [01:21] yep, just have to give ntldr a linux mbr to boot [01:21] Animeking: it's been so long since i've used windows that i'm unfamiliar [01:21] oh, yeah [01:22] dd if= of= [01:22] then mv it (most commonly) [01:24] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:25] To those who know electrical stuff: My asshole brother keeps his AC on 24/7, and when it kicks into higher gear, oftentimes the the light and fan in my room will 'hiccup'. How well do computers cope with this? [01:25] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:25] mine have to put up with that [01:26] so far so good [01:26] makes my UPS beep :P [01:26] i gotta get a UPS at this point in my life... [01:26] I can't remember, doesn't slackware come with a z80 assembler? [01:26] or used to [01:27] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-36.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [01:28] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:28] trhodes, what about the circuit breaker tripping/fuse blowing? Is that worse than just unplugging the power cord to the pc? [01:28] i don't know [01:28] i'd guess it's similar [01:29] I hate my life. [01:29] If my HDD goes, I'm joining the peacecorps. [01:30] Action: linux_probe kills byteframe';s hdd [01:30] :) [01:30] Action: byteframe crys [01:30] kumo (~kumo@cache.vsu.ru) joined ##slackware. [01:30] Action: Animeking nukes the HDD from orbit. [01:30] Leeeme lone! [01:30] XD [01:30] id say circuit tripping is the same as unpluging power cord [01:30] I was hoping. [01:31] sudden loss of power ;) [01:31] kumo (~kumo@cache.vsu.ru) left irc: Client Quit [01:31] although a circuit should never be overloaded to where it trips! [01:31] kumo (~kumo@cache.vsu.ru) joined ##slackware. [01:31] linux_probe, explain that, please. [01:31] >_> [01:32] whats to explain circuit tripping = too much junk on that circuit [01:32] unplug something =p [01:32] 80% load is the max, iirc [01:32] well whatever is of major draw ( air condition, hair dryer, fridge lastly [01:32] move the poo to another circuit [01:33] Pretty sure I've only two circuits (apartment floor), one for the dryer, and one for the people. [01:33] ^clothes dryer, as it were. [01:33] uggg, Guess I gotta backup tommorow. [01:33] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [01:34] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [01:34] thats very poor [01:34] >_> [01:34] yo, how do i get my /tmp dir to clear after every reboot? [01:34] tmpfs is one way [01:35] tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm [01:35] that should be it right [01:35] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:35] looks like it [01:35] doesnt clear after reboots [01:36] your fstab entry is incorrect [01:36] here's an example fstab line: none on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,size=8g,mode=1777) [01:36] here's mine: [01:36] that was the output of df -h [01:36] tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,size=100% 0 0 [01:36] Need both of those [01:36] You want /dev/shm to be there. [01:37] AND you need a tmpfs for /tmp if you want it on tmpfs [01:37] $ grep tmpfs /etc/fstab [01:37] tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 [01:37] tmpfs /tmp tmpfs size=2G 0 0 [01:37] stormtracknole: greets! :) [01:37] Action: alphageek likes the size=percentage approach :) [01:38] alphageek: whatever works for you :) [01:38] ok [01:38] unless overridden, size=50% [01:38] just an fyi [01:38] (of ram, obviously) [01:38] rworkman: morning! Time to drink excessive amounts of coffee!! :-) [01:38] haha [01:38] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [01:39] alright, let me finish compiling then i'll remount and reboot to try it out [01:40] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:41] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:42] rworkman: I've been meaning to ask you, any idea on when xfce-4.2 will make it to current? [01:42] 4.6.2 you mean? :) [01:43] No idea; maybe soonish, I hope [01:43] Doh...yes! See, I'm not awakre yet. Ha, ha! [01:43] awake [01:44] For whatever reason, xfce along with gdm work much better on my HP Mini compared to kde. [01:44] KDE wouldn't remember my power management settings and waking up from suspend was hit-and-miss. [01:45] xfce and gdm...it comes back within 3 seconds from suspend, not so with kde. I'm not quite sure why was that. [01:45] dcauter (dcauter@unaffiliated/dcauter) joined ##slackware. [01:47] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [01:48] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [01:50] kumo (~kumo@cache.vsu.ru) left irc: Quit: :C40-B> @57:> 8A?0@8;AO (went away). [01:51] dcauter (dcauter@unaffiliated/dcauter) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:53] its working. Thanks alphageek and rworkman ! [01:53] stormtracknole: I've seen reports of kde's suspend settings having issues before; same for the resume issues. No idea what's going on, but it's clearly a kde issue as opposed to Slackware :/ [01:53] danklesman: very good :) [01:53] danklesman: welcome [01:53] :D [01:54] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [01:54] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:57] rworkman: It's unfortunate because I think KDE is very good, but XFCE has made me a believer. :-) [01:57] :) [01:58] dcauter (dcauter@unaffiliated/dcauter) joined ##slackware. [01:58] Sometimes, simple is better. ;-) Just like Slackware. [01:59] I'm an XMonad fanboy [01:59] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [02:00] dcauter (dcauter@unaffiliated/dcauter) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:01] rworkman: FYI, it's about to get even hotter at the end of this week. [02:01] BiCHiTo (Yposu4i2zw@unaffiliated/bichito) joined ##slackware. [02:01] dcauter (dcauter@unaffiliated/dcauter) joined ##slackware. [02:02] Well, that's just wonderful news :/ [02:02] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-1-103.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:02] It looks to be around 100 on your neck of the woods. :-( [02:02] Maybe higer. [02:02] gezley (~gezley@86-42-210-43-dynamic.b-ras1.cld.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Quit: gezley [02:02] higher [02:02] Any rain coming any time soon? [02:03] BiCHiTo (Yposu4i2zw@unaffiliated/bichito) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:03] weather was excellent here today, 79F and lower humidity, was 90F the other day. [02:04] rworkman: Last shot of good rain today. Then it will begin to dry out as we head through the week. I'm working on the forecast now. :-) [02:04] fire|bird: What location is that? Sounds nice. [02:04] stormtracknole, Minnesota [02:04] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [02:04] SW to be a bit more precise [02:05] Nice...I bet your winters are brutal though. [02:05] indeed, they sure are. The past few years have been fairly mild though, not too bad. [02:05] Define "mild". Heh, heh... [02:09] Necrosporus_ (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [02:10] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Disconnected by services [02:10] Nick change: Necrosporus_ -> Necrosporus [02:11] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:12] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-36.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [02:12] gezley (~gezley@86-42-210-43-dynamic.b-ras1.cld.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [02:13] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.101.220.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [02:14] stormtracknole: bah, that sucks. I finished cutting the grass today, but it needs rain :/ [02:16] stormtracknole, warmer temps than a typical MN winter, and not as much snow as we usually get around here, not many days with below 0 temps. [02:17] rworkman: My grass isn't growing. It's actually quite brown right now. :-/ [02:17] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:17] ugh [02:18] These little thundershower popups in the evenings have been nice. [02:18] fire|bird: Coldest temperature that I've been around is 12 degrees. [02:18] whoops, didn't mean to close my phoenix^ window. :/ [02:18] He'll rise again [02:19] rworkman: Those thunder showers are good. Some spots in my grass are green. That's the good thing about bermuda grass. Hard to kill. [02:19] I was messing with chatzilla and closed Seamonkey to try Seamonkey 2.1 beta 2, forgetting that Chatzilla would go with it. [02:19] err s/beta/alpha/ [02:19] stormtracknole: Put some Bahaya out there ;-) [02:20] lamefun (~dingbing@unaffiliated/lamefun) joined ##slackware. [02:20] You'll have to cut it every day, but at least it will be green. [02:20] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) joined ##slackware. [02:20] See? Straight from the ashes of a closed window! [02:21] hehe, indeed. [02:21] still, irssi ftw!!! [02:21] irssi rocks! :) [02:21] No doubt [02:21] At least the grass dies in the winter. [02:22] Amen. [02:22] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:22] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:22] If my yard wasn't so large, I'd seriously consider artificial turf. [02:22] somehow in my irssi theme I've gotten it where a | is shown after everyones nick, not sure how I did that. :/ [02:23] Really - if I lived in a little subdivision with a garden home type thing, with a yard measured in square inches as opposed to acres... [02:23] Playing with pipes again? [02:23] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [02:25] rworkman, well, this time it wasn't intentional, but I guess so. ;) [02:25] Yeah, but then you have to worry about those pesky homeowners associations. [02:25] ugh [02:25] it remains across themes too, I just don't get it. :/ [02:25] Thankfully, I don't live in one. :-) [02:25] i don't understand why people put up with those :/ [02:26] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-142.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:26] stormtracknole: I'd just not move there. That's a dealbreaker for me. Government is bad enough - I don't need to fascist organisations thinking they have a claim to me and mine. [02:26] s/to/two/ [02:27] The house that I used to live before was pretty bad, [02:30] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [02:30] j0z (unix@201.47.13.156.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:30] j0z (unix@201.47.13.156.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [02:30] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [02:31] jgeboski (~jgeboski@97.72.86.194) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:31] jgeboski (~jgeboski@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [02:34] Those things are a menace. With the economy like it is now, where home *buyers* have the upper hand, it's a good time to start eradicating them. [02:34] Refuse to sign up for them or no sale. That simple. [02:34] I don't know how they get away with the things that they do. [02:35] People sign the contracts. [02:35] While evils are sufferable, they should be suffered. [02:36] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-1-103.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:37] Well, my first time around, I was a bit clueless on how they worked. I was actually made aware of all the rules after I had bought my house. :-/ Thankfully, I don't have to worry about that now. [02:37] Indeed. You learned from experience :) [02:38] I sure did! I don't think I'll be doing that again. [02:39] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [02:43] Shamoun (~Shamoun@c-24-23-41-32.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:08] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:10] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-232-81-180.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:11] troy (~troy@67.55.6.203) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:20] tomaw (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [03:24] anybody knows of a way I can play sound on one channel only (i.e. the left one), for instance using mpg123? [03:24] tomaw (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) joined ##slackware. [03:25] pireau (1000@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [03:26] i bet mplayer's -af channels might do it [03:26] does it have to be mpg123 ? [03:27] has to be something lightweight. [03:27] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-165-178.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [03:27] I can try mplayer. [03:27] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-167-183.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:27] i'm tinkering with the channels filter now [03:28] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [03:29] actually, maybe that's the wrong filter for this situation [03:30] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.101.220.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:30] trhodes: with irssi? [03:31] MLanden: slava_dp is trying to get sound out of one channel with something like mpg321 [03:31] john_dee (~id@78-106-242-22.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:31] yeah :) [03:31] ie, left or right channel [03:32] ahh....sound channels....ok,trhodes [03:33] maybe an equalizer setting will do it, too [03:33] lamefun (~dingbing@unaffiliated/lamefun) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:34] ( and ) work interactively, but i'm not sure if they just work on the mixer itself [03:34] hmm, right now ( and ) aren't working as advertised for me [03:35] bleeding|edge (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) joined ##slackware. [03:35] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [03:35] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:35] archceza1 (1000@ajv85.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [03:35] I'm looking to setup a virtual device in /etc/asoundrc, that will only have one channel :) [03:35] ah, good idea [03:35] not sure if that will work [03:36] slava_dp: does it allow -0 or --single0 for left a/o -1 or --single1 for right? [03:36] can mpg123 select a device? I know aplay can, but it's clumsy [03:36] maybe with an environment variable [03:36] MLanden, yes... let me try that [03:36] So there's no flash for slack64? [03:37] mpg321 has -a device [03:37] am referring to mpg123's man http://www.digipedia.pl/man/doc/view/mpg123.1/ [03:38] archcezar (1000@ddz55.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [03:38] MLanden, --single0 does not work :( [03:38] don't see that in mpg321 [03:39] so that's one way they differ [03:39] trhodes, mpg321 == mpg123 in slackware 13.1. [03:40] oh yeah, sure is [03:40] --single* still isn't in the manpage though [03:41] it is :) [03:41] er wait [03:41] haha yeah [03:42] just curious, but what's this for ? [03:43] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-95-61.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:45] rirombo (~rirombo@h113.187.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [03:46] for work. I am doing a touch panel with our smart house visualization, and it should sound the doorbell on one channel (that is routed through the house to ring various bells), and the door intercom on the other channel (to go in the speakers). [03:46] that's the plan :) [03:47] ah cool [03:47] it's ugly, but -s the output to sox where you could mixer -l it [03:48] slava_dp: so the file is a mono,8-bit/16-bit mp3? [03:48] rirombo (~rirombo@h113.187.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:48] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [03:48] MLanden, erm, no, the file is a stereo mp3 (at the moment) :) [03:49] mpg123 -s is what I meant ^^ to pipe to sox [03:49] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [03:49] slava_dp: ok [03:49] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.29) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:49] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) left irc: Quit: Because I have loved life, I shall have no sorrow to die. [03:49] alsa would definitely be more elegant, and maybe more efficient, but i'm not good with alsa's syntax [03:50] yeah, nobody is good with alsa syntax [03:50] hehe [03:51] sirslacker (1000@s1145.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [03:51] Nick change: sirslacker -> sirslacker|Busy [03:52] jgeboski (jgeboski@97.72.86.194) left ##slackware. [03:52] trhodes, sox mixer -l looks promising, but why pipe mpg123 output to it? I think sox is capable of playing stuff itself. [03:52] sure is [03:52] Is the 'mounted 30 times so we fsck' check at bootup a bad-blocks check? [03:52] byteframe, no [03:53] it's a filesystem consistency check [03:53] slava_dp: i just figured since you were asking about mpg123 that you needed mp3 decoding :P [03:53] slava_dp, i'm trying to find what it does for that, so I can do it arbirtarily. [03:53] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [03:53] jgeboski (~jgeboski@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [03:53] byteframe, edit /etc/rc.d/rc.S, add '-c' to the fsck call. [03:54] ahhh its in that file, thanks slava_dp. [03:54] but you'll have LONG bootups :) [03:54] I dont want to do it on bootup, I just want to run the check once now like it does when that happens. [03:58] you can try to add -c in addition to -a that is present, and see what it does. [03:58] slava_dp: what about mplayer in quiet mode to manipulate the sound channels in the files? [04:00] slava_dp, I understand now. I thought the boot scripts were doing the thing were the check is longer after 35 mounts, but it turns out fsck knows when to do that, and I'ts doing it now. [04:01] ahhhhh, stupid touchpad and xorg-1.8 [04:01] bleeding|edge (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) left irc: Quit: Because I have loved life, I shall have no sorrow to die. [04:01] it decided that I could scroll with two-finger tapping, right [04:01] byteframe, check interval is a filesystem parameter. man tune2fs. [04:01] but it also decided to enable the scrolling zone on the right side of the touchpad [04:02] adrien, I have both enabled in 13.1, lovin it :-) [04:02] ahhh. [04:02] next, it'll enable the top, left and bottom zones and I'll have only 1cm to move the cursor >< [04:02] masterslakk (~mastersla@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [04:02] slava_dp: yeah, definitely, my problem is the scrolling zone on the right >< [04:03] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:03] what does anyone thing about ext4 vs xfs vs btrfs? [04:03] byteframe, /sbin/tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 [04:04] gniks, I use ext4 for / and /home, xfs for storage. never touched btrfs yet, I'll wait a little more. [04:05] whats the advantages of xfs over ext4? ive never used or really researched anything other than ext and reiser and zfs [04:06] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [04:06] fire|bird (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) left irc: Quit: When music is the weapon, we are all indestructable. [04:06] xfs is fast for larger files, and also saves you space on large volumes (compared to ext*). [04:06] hmm [04:07] yeah, ive noticed the immense overhead on multiple TB drives for most any file system [04:07] fire|bird (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) joined ##slackware. [04:07] for *some* filesystems. [04:08] yeah [04:09] xfs likes some tuning though. [04:09] would you say its more stable and recoverable than ext? [04:10] they all are comparable. [04:10] if it's in the kernel, it's stable. [04:11] yeah [04:11] rworkman: do you have laptops with xorg-1.8 and using two-fingers scroll? [04:12] the performance of ext4 is very comparable to xfs (both use extents), I just don't use ext on large volumes because it steals space. [04:12] adrien, can't you override it? :) [04:12] Redness (~redness@c122-108-213-51.rochd4.qld.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Quit: Get MacIrssi - http://www.sysctl.co.uk/projects/macirssi/ [04:12] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [04:13] Action: slava_dp is strugging with sox [04:13] slava_dp: I've disabled it but when I move over the corresponding zone, my cursor jumps: I think there's something to tell the hardware about and that xorg doesn't [04:13] sirslacker|Busy (1000@s1145.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [04:14] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Client Quit [04:15] slava_dp: what's the trouble ? the syntax ? [04:15] yes, the syntax makes me cry. [04:15] slava_dp: ok, did you decode the mp3 ? [04:15] slava_dp, can I stop tune2fs? [04:16] byteframe, did it run away from you? :) [04:16] slava_dp: nevermind, i see that it seems to work on mp3's just fine [04:16] slava_dp, http://pastebin.ca/1903481 [04:16] trhodes, it should work with mp3s [04:16] that happened. so I'm freaking out. [04:17] byteframe, your disk is dying, do a backup now. [04:17] fuck [04:17] its a newish disk [04:17] oh lordy no [04:17] byteframe: there's always the peace corps [04:17] Si! [04:18] Can I stop tunefs? [04:18] It's on "Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes" [04:18] this is not tunefs, this is fsck. [04:18] ok. [04:18] and no, you shouldn't stop it. [04:18] 2tb. shit [04:19] byteframe, which fs? [04:19] Ansa89, ext3 [04:19] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [04:19] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) left ##slackware. [04:19] lol....you take a year to do fsck for 2tb [04:21] yeah, ext3 was one bad choice for 2 TBs. [04:21] ext4 would have been at least tolerable. [04:21] mcury (~mcury@189.24.6.118) joined ##slackware. [04:22] Mor [04:22] i fucked it up. [04:22] n [04:22] byteframe, don't swear, kids can hear ya. [04:22] I' msorry. [04:22] so when is the devs for ext going to make that defragmentation tool for ext4 :p [04:23] gniks, see shake on SBo. works for me. [04:23] lol [04:24] interesting [04:24] does that work on all file systems? :p [04:24] ok, I guess I hit a fucking stupid regression in X, now to check it hasn't been fixed and send a mail >< [04:24] morning Zordrak [04:26] mcury (~mcury@189.24.6.118) left irc: Client Quit [04:28] slava_dp: do you actually have file systems old enough to need defragmentation? [04:29] not just age, but usage patterns can cause fragmentation [04:30] gniks, firefox profile likes defragmentation. [04:30] this is ture [04:30] instant speedup :) [04:30] shake --old=0 ~/.mozilla [04:30] sirslacker|Busy (1000@s1145.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [04:30] hmm, ill have to give that a shot [04:31] indeed, I didn't know about shake until now; thanks slava_dp [04:31] me either [04:31] yer welcome :) it's been on SBo for a year. [04:32] Action: adrien doesn't have shake [04:32] usage patterns do definitely affect fragmentation, but it was my understanding of ext, that unless you really do a lot of changes of the files, that its rather good at avoiding fragmentatino [04:32] but for ~/.mozilla, tar cf, rm and tar xf will do :P [04:32] hehe [04:36] Shamoun (~Shamoun@c-24-23-41-32.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:40] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-174-41.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:40] colmcille (~colmcille@94.30.27.232) joined ##slackware. [04:41] o/ [04:45] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-36.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [04:49] trhodes, so, how would I play a file with sox using it's mixer filter? [04:52] slava_dp: i was just going to ask if you had any luck -- i get this error: play mixer: Can't mix -l 2 -> 2 channels [04:52] slava_dp: to start with, i just use play, as it's syntax is more concise for this purpose [04:53] ouch.... I get alsa buffer underruns in play. [04:54] it sounds laggy for me as well [04:54] nothing from alsa however [04:54] what command line do you use? [04:55] play $mp3 mixer -l [04:55] well, i've tried other options to mixer [04:55] i'm trying to understand that the numeric arguments do [04:55] *what [04:57] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:57] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-10-159.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [04:59] when y'all increase --buffer to play..does the file still act laggy? [04:59] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:00] actually, i'm only using sox/play now [05:00] rworkman: it looks like xorg-1.8 has troubles with my synaptics touchpad (it's actually a synaptics one) but it has always worked nicely before [05:01] i don't know how to treat mpg321 -s output as two channels in sox [05:02] MLanden: whoops, i missed --buffer in the sox manpage, too [05:02] trhodes: was just reading sox/play's man myself [05:03] MLanden: it's still laggy, however [05:03] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [05:04] trhodes: what buffer size? [05:04] 16384 [05:04] double default [05:04] true..too large buffer...too slow response [05:05] well, mpg123 plays OK, if I could just get sox's mixer to work [05:06] jafnhar (~jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [05:06] trhodes: maybe manipulating the -p or --sox-pipe option..you're using sox for input,right? [05:06] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:08] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [05:09] MLanden: play $mp3 is laggy, and mpg123 isn't; i still haven't gotten the audio typed matched up in sox to play sane sound (tried -u1, but don't know its endian-ness; it's probably wrong, hence the horrible sound) [05:10] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Quit: Necrosporus [05:10] err, to play sound when mpg123 is piped to it [05:10] it plays, but sounds awful :) [05:10] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [05:11] trhodes: ok...sound bleeds somehow [05:11] sarkoman (~sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) joined ##slackware. [05:12] -t raw doesn't work, presumably because it's "raw (headerless) linear PCM audio data, 16 bit, stereo, host byte order" [05:12] lemme try -u2 again [05:12] haha, not it [05:12] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:13] trhodes: seeing if there's anything in the linux cookbook [05:13] -s2 might be closer [05:13] actually just sounded like a rate mismatch [05:14] that could cause it..like shouting in a squeezed soda can [05:14] ok, i'm close now [05:14] -r 44100 [05:14] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [05:15] that's input file dependant, i think [05:15] ahh..room to breathe..;D [05:15] it's playing like half-speed now :P [05:15] ncrypthic (~ncrypthic@118.96.10.181) joined ##slackware. [05:16] sirslacker|Busy (1000@s1145.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:18] ncrypthic (ncrypthic@118.96.10.181) left ##slackware. [05:18] ncrypthic (~ncrypthic@118.96.10.181) joined ##slackware. [05:19] trhodes:able to use speed,tempo, or pitch to correct it? [05:19] MLanden: ok, figured it out (the half-speed thing) - it was playing one channel instead of two [05:20] -c2 fixed it [05:20] now it sounds normal and not laggy [05:20] ok [05:24] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [05:24] slava_dp: try `sox/play`ing your doorbell mp3 with both AUDIODRIVER=oss AUDIODEV=/dev/dsp and AUDIODRIVER=alsa AUDIODEV=hw:0 to see if you still get underruns or poor sound quality either way [05:25] (change devices accordingly) [05:25] sarkoman (~sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [05:28] gah, i'm still stumped by sox's "mixer" [05:28] jafnhar (~jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [05:32] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:32] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [05:34] Later,folks...good luck,trhodes [05:34] later, MLanden [05:34] thanks :) [05:35] np [05:35] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-167-183.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:36] gezley (~gezley@86-42-210-43-dynamic.b-ras1.cld.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [05:40] slava_dp: looks like sox used to have an "avg" that would have done what you wanted, easily [05:41] sirslacker|Busy (1000@s1145.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [05:45] (and mixer is the replacement) [05:49] slava_dp: ok, figured it out: play $mp3 mixer 1,0,1,0 # means send left to left and right to left channel [05:49] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:50] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [05:50] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Client Quit [05:51] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.29.22) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [05:54] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.26.13) joined ##slackware. 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[07:20] fidesratio (~fidesrati@bender.open-source.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:22] Zaythan (~zaythan@ip68-1-71-150.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [07:23] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-znyikgibypytuftf) joined ##slackware. [07:24] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:24] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [07:25] trhodes, thank you so much, your solution works :) I used this command line: AUDIODRIVER=alsa AUDIODEV=hw:0 play $mp3 mixer 1,0,1,0 [07:25] awesome :D [07:26] you're welcome, slava_dp [07:26] really, you've done all the research for me :) thanks :) [07:27] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [07:27] i've tinkered with sox before; it's fun :) [07:30] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:30] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. 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[07:45] Which software I run on it [07:46] monstro: mplayer [07:46] Zordrak, exist it in binary tgz ? [07:46] for slack 12.2 [07:46] vlc [07:46] dragon too [07:46] Action: Zordrak wishes he'd kept quiet :) [07:47] monstro: look at alienBOB's repository [07:47] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:47] monstro, and update to 13.1 :-) [07:47] okay ;-) [07:50] SpacePlod (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-bezjgxpvuparidll) joined ##slackware. [07:50] SpacePlod (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-bezjgxpvuparidll) left ##slackware. [07:50] SpacePlod (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-bezjgxpvuparidll) joined ##slackware. [07:51] Zordrak, how to play dvd in mplayer ? this is in mode text! [07:51] mplayer dvd:// [07:51] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [07:53] thanks [07:53] monstro (1000@201-92-42-97.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:54] sirslacker|Busy (1000@s1145.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:55] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [07:55] scroo_loose (~scroo.loo@173.10.149.1) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:57] atof (~atof@58.69.54.217) joined ##slackware. [08:01] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [08:01] atof_ (~atof@58.69.54.217) joined ##slackware. [08:02] Zaythan (~zaythan@ip68-1-71-150.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: [08:02] atof (~atof@58.69.54.217) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:04] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:04] atof_ (~atof@58.69.54.217) left irc: Client Quit [08:05] lain_ (~lain@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [08:06] atof (~atof@58.69.54.217) joined ##slackware. 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[08:33] well i have startx in my .bash_profile but that's it [08:33] i was too lazy to change the startup init [08:34] godane (~arch@c-75-68-6-221.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [08:36] colmcille (~colmcille@94.30.27.232) left irc: Quit: NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o [08:39] Action: slackie hey buddies \o [08:45] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:46] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [08:46] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: crap [08:46] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:49] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [08:55] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-125-89.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:04] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [09:05] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-125-89.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:06] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [09:06] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.101.220.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [09:06] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.101.220.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) left irc: Changing host [09:06] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [09:07] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [09:10] anyone ever setup gitweb on slackware? [09:10] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [09:11] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:12] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [09:13] wobbles (huntsman@C-61-68-174-41.bur.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:14] s4lv4d0r (0@190.74.48.153) joined ##slackware. [09:14] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [09:14] s4lv4d0r kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Using IRC as root is dangerous. Please reference "Using IRC as root" via google for further information. [09:15] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-106.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:16] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:20] adrien, sbo admins might have :) [09:20] heheh, right :P [09:21] presuming that they run slackbuilds.org on slackware :-) [09:21] I can't seem to find doc for that, at best I find doc that explains nothing [09:21] I'm checking something: namely that git.SlackBuild creates gitweb.cgi [09:22] Dexter (~dexter@219.64.95.198) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:22] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:22] greetings and salutations [09:23] VampX_ (~VampX@200.46.190.99) joined ##slackware. [09:24] no, it does [09:24] hi andarius [09:24] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [09:25] m3tti (~user@p57B7DD61.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:30] VampX_ (~VampX@200.46.190.99) left irc: Quit: VampX_ [09:30] VampX (~VampX@200.46.190.99) joined ##slackware. [09:31] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [09:31] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [09:32] Tadgy (~tadgy@unaffiliated/tadgy) joined ##slackware. [09:32] Action: Tadgy always forgets to connect here :) [09:32] Slacker [09:32] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [09:33] s1ackhappy (~slackhapp@bishop.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [09:35] Anyone in Asia/Pacific area? [09:36] that's a bit area [09:36] and might be sleeping right now [09:36] But actually, a majority of the world population is there. You're welcome. [09:37] ncrypthic (~ncrypthic@125.160.220.116) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:37] Zordrak, looking for ban list testers or what? :D [09:37] can either of you guys do an MX dig on tocos-j.co.jp for me? [09:37] Sent some emails to staff here, but we cant reply cause there's just no DNS presence [09:38] [tadgy@bender] ~ ->host -t mx tocos-j.co.jp [09:38] Host tocos-j.co.jp.open-source.co.uk not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) [09:38] Err, hang on. [09:38] [tadgy@bender] ~ ->host -t mx tocos-j.co.jp. [09:38] Host tocos-j.co.jp not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) [09:38] Scratch the first one :) [09:38] yeah same here [09:39] 'make install' in git doesn't install gitweb.cgi ='( [09:40] Zordrak, queried SOA ns1.secure.net and no record in reply [09:40] admboom: *nod* [09:40] admboom: in fact when i tried those NSes i got a recursion-requested but disallowed response. [09:40] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:41] Zordrak, yea saw that, curious "not available" [09:41] it is a monday [09:41] [tadgy@bender] ~ ->host -t soa co.jp. [09:41] Host co.jp not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) [09:41] sirslacker|Busy (1000@s0982.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [09:41] Thats an, errr, issue :) [09:46] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.189.207) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:47] um.. yyeeaaahhh [09:48] yahoo.co.jp is fine [09:49] usus12jari (~ashe@61.94.143.198) joined ##slackware. [09:49] lol. The Japanese are weird. Three clicks from yahoo.co.jp gets you boobs :) [09:49] hehe [09:49] Might even be do-able in two |) [09:50] yah(.(.) [09:50] Action: adrien clicks, clicks, clicks [09:50] B(o)(o)BIES! [09:51] Action: adrien did it in one click :P [09:51] adrien: Click, or flick? ;) [09:52] heheh :p [09:54] Tadgy, you should really lurk in OT [09:54] he should [09:54] n't [09:54] lol [09:55] it's a dangerous place ;-) [09:56] dangerous is fun [09:57] Indeed. Everyone should try it without lube :) [09:58] danger will! Danger danger! [09:58] fisting? sure. come over here, Tadgy [09:58] bend over ;) [09:58] tsss, stop it now? :-) [09:58] Action: Tadgy would prefer you to bend over raela; and I won't be using my fist hunny :) [09:58] lol [09:59] where's this butt sting named bagira at? [09:59] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-242-67.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:59] ? [09:59] Dominian: Oh hi, i recognize you! [09:59] er... I so hope its good [09:59] oh it is! [10:00] This idiot Pmd me.. about some crap channel.. so I changed my nick.. I'm back to tell him to f'off [10:00] boy didn't know what he was talkinga bout.. had him rming this.. installing this.. upgrading crap like zlib [10:00] usus12jari (~ashe@61.94.143.198) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:00] grazymax (~grazymax@host68-133-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:00] oh..... [10:00] that guy! [10:00] Tadgy: I suspect co.jp. is simply a part of jp. rather than a delegated subdomain. [10:00] zlib! :) [10:00] s1ackhappy: He set his channel +i is why you can't get in [10:01] ahhhhhhhh [10:01] bastard [10:01] 13:49:27.117073 10.0.5.1.17118 > 10.0.5.6.3000: udp 22 [tos 0xb8] [10:01] 13:49:27.125944 10.0.5.1.17118 > 10.0.5.6.3000: udp 22 [tos 0xb8] [10:01] 13:49:27.126805 10.0.5.6.17118 > nas28.Indianapolis1.Level3.net.61548: udp 22 [tos 0xb8] [10:01] Channel flood from Dominian -- kicking [10:01] 13:49:27.136608 10.0.5.6.17118 > nas28.Indianapolis1.Level3.net.61548: udp 22 [tos 0xb8] [10:01] Dominian kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [10:01] Dominian (dominian@about/linux/staff/dominian) joined ##slackware. [10:01] holy crap [10:01] Dominian: \o/ [10:01] sorry! [10:01] Action: Dominian blames putty and a horrible mouse [10:01] Action: adrien blames Dominian for running windows [10:02] required to at work unfortunately [10:02] that paste outpout.. hehe was a UDP capture from a VoIP call.. doh [10:02] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.12.22) joined ##slackware. [10:02] well from the VoIP side of the router at least [10:03] haha.. pwned! [10:03] i use two keyboard layouts german and us (kde, switch them with kxkblayout), in german layout i need a Alt Gr to function, and it works actually, but when i switch layout and then back, then Alt Gr stops to work, what can be the reason? [10:03] Tadgy: no thanks, I don't swing that way [10:03] Dominian: well thanks for the info.. I'll just 'hang around' I guess until he shows up. [10:03] s1ackhappy: suit yourself! [10:05] Action: rob0 swings raela the other way [10:07] rob0: not to Tadgy! [10:07] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:07] Of course not silly, the OTHER way. [10:07] I thought raela was like a revolving door... [10:07] Action: Dominian ducks [10:07] schwing! [10:08] Action: rob0 swings raela at Dominian [10:08] Action: Dominian blocks it with Tabmow [10:08] er.. Tadgy [10:08] use your feet! [10:08] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [10:08] you weirdos :P [10:11] aha! brb Courtney on the phone! [10:11] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:13] s1ackhappy: She's better on the floor... or the desk... or the stairs... [10:13] tell me about it [10:13] Action: s1ackhappy drools [10:14] It's prob why they split up - he couldn't satify her.. [10:14] i want to bang my head against a wall...... so i looked in the patches directory of slackintosh... Pidgin was updated there to current stable... and yesterday i spend all day trying to get it compiled and working... [10:15] Beellinda (ems62m@182.2.85.255) joined ##slackware. [10:15] oh dang! [10:15] Tadgy: That's what I heard [10:15] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:16] see, I'm a lean, mean, f*ckin machine [10:16] Don't bang your head on a wall! Think of the poor wall!! [10:16] yah what did the wall do to you! [10:16] wait... is this still the slackware room? [10:16] KaMii: yes [10:16] or did it turn to sex chat? [10:16] :) [10:16] ##slackwall [10:16] who said anything about sex? [10:16] Action: KaMii is 15 and a girl, so keep it clean [10:16] slackware gets you chicks [10:16] see, I'm a lean, mean, f*ckin machine [10:16] f*cking is just my way of saying fscking but leaving it in the 'air' [10:17] hahahaha [10:17] perverts [10:17] KaMii: you had a birthday recently! Hope it was a happy one. [10:17] naw its ok my mamma is a sex therapist, i probably heard more about that subject than you [10:17] recently? like in April [10:17] awww don't take it so badly [10:17] haha [10:17] I'll slap you with it if you want [10:17] give Tadgy you mum's # [10:18] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:18] psh, as a 15 year old girl, I had worse IRC convos than this [10:18] kids these days [10:18] raela: your a 15 year old girl also? [10:18] :O [10:19] *you're [10:19] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [10:19] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [10:19] and notice the past tense [10:19] I have since grown [10:19] lol [10:19] aging is a funny thing, I know [10:19] Action: KaMii will never grow old [10:20] unless you're planning on killing yourself early.. [10:20] dont be so morbid [10:20] no i have discovered the fountain of youth [10:20] but sorry i cant share, part of the rules, i didnt make them up [10:20] and this is why kids are idiots.. sigh [10:20] i love you too raela [10:23] s1ackhappy: labiamos! [10:23] KaMii: What do you mean, you can't compile it to make it work? You said there was a package for pidgin there? [10:24] Tadgy: vulvamos! [10:27] Tadgy: i spent a lot of time yesterday getting pidgin compiled. I succedded but it took a long time [10:27] m3tti (~user@p57B7DD61.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:27] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [10:27] now today i remembere i forgot to check the patches directory [10:27] so i did, and pidgin was there... blah [10:27] hehe [10:28] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7DD61.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:28] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7DD61.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:28] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430770.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [10:29] now i need to get my keyboard mapped out the way i want, and to try to figure out how to make the touchpad not be a mouse button when you touch it... because its super sensitive... a fly could set it off [10:29] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430770.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:29] answers are only a quick google search away! [10:30] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7DD61.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:30] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7DD61.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:31] troy_ (~troy@dsl-67-204-0-35.acanac.net) joined ##slackware. [10:31] Tadgy: (and chipster) enough sexual innuendo for another month or so, Please take that to #gsb [10:32] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Quit: shonudo [10:33] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:33] Or to paraphrase Groucho, throw innuendo out the door! [10:33] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [10:33] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [10:33] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:34] alienBOB: you bet mate :) [10:36] And no more slackhappy impersonations in this channel. [10:37] you guys were raisin all kinds of hell and its a monday morning [10:37] raisin bran... good idea [10:37] forgot breakfast [10:39] raela (1000@cpe-67-249-207-123.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Changing host [10:39] raela (1000@unaffiliated/raela) joined ##slackware. [10:40] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-226-176.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:40] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [10:48] whats the file in etc that names your host ? [10:49] HOSTNAME [10:49] and see hosts, too) [10:49] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:54] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [10:57] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [11:00] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-226-176.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:00] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.100.149) joined ##slackware. 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[11:15] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [11:16] hi. how could i let someone upload files to my computer? using ftp? i want via http interface if possible [11:16] or the simples method you can think of [11:17] you would need something on the server that would accept the file upload [11:17] via http [11:17] samfisher: DAV [11:18] ph|ber_ (~cking@c-75-66-7-36.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:18] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:18] ok, thank you [11:18] scp too [11:18] uucp :) [11:20] Tadgy: it's from a win machine [11:20] to my slackbox [11:22] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:22] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [11:22] VampX_ (~VampX@200.46.190.99) joined ##slackware. [11:22] VampX_ (~VampX@200.46.190.99) left irc: Client Quit [11:24] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:24] anyone run Oracle under slack? [11:25] andarius (andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [11:25] is that even legal? [11:26] neBu (1000@neBu.ro) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:27] VampX (~VampX@200.46.190.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:27] how do I enable vsftpd on slackware 13.1? [11:27] i have it installed, shows in /var/log [11:27] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [11:28] i'm sure theres at least 2 ways [11:28] 1 with inetd or with a startup script in /etc/rc.d [11:30] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [11:33] most standard method is editing /etc/vsftpd.conf and /etc/inetd.conf to enable it and restarting /etc/rc.d/rc.inetd. [11:35] anyone use preppi ? [11:35] Skywise: i doubt it, no =P [11:35] v3gard (~v3gard@v3gard.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:36] tuxdev (~tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [11:36] or someother EPP client [11:36] BP{k}: found it, thanks. is there a user or I have to create it? [11:36] v3gard (~v3gard@v3gard.com) joined ##slackware. [11:37] Delahunt (~robert@fd125-198.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:40] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7DD61.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:42] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:43] alkos333_2 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:45] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [11:45] Howdy [11:47] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:48] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:48] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: I'm not a quitter, I just had to go [11:48] whats the default pass for user FTP? [11:48] alkos333_2 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: I'm not a quitter, I just had to go [11:49] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:50] urmom [11:50] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:51] ... [11:51] nevermind, i've changed it [11:52] HOW DID YOU KNOW MY PASSWORD!?!?! [11:53] '1 2 3 4 5... thats amazing I have the same combination on my luggage!' [11:54] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [11:55] __n0v4__ (n0v4@59.93.241.166) joined ##slackware. [11:55] <__n0v4__> does anyone know a good guide to upgrade slackware64 13.0 to 13.1? [11:56] <__n0v4__> coz my laptop dvd drive screwed and I have only a 4GB thumb drive [11:56] <__n0v4__> any help will be appreciated, Thanks!! [11:57] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [11:58] ph|ber (~phiber@mail.synergies4u.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:59] mike3 (~niter3@CPE1693b768c87e-CM001ade840b26.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [11:59] Nick change: ph|ber_ -> ph|ber [11:59] __n0v4__: install/upgrade over the network with slackpkg? [12:00] ie create a local mirror and upgrade from that. [12:00] slackware-13.1/UPGRADE.TXT [12:01] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:02] <__n0v4__> it seems to be a gr8 idea [12:02] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.12.22) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:02] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:02] mike3 (niter3@CPE1693b768c87e-CM001ade840b26.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware. [12:02] <__n0v4__> but I have no idea over slackpkg, previously I always resolved the dependencies manually [12:02] __n0v4__: read CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT too. [12:02] <__n0v4__> sure, I will give it a try. [12:03] <__n0v4__> installing/upgrading over network will be a problem for me since link speed is very low here [12:03] Action: phrag gets no appreciation at work =( [12:03] slackpkg doesn't resolve dependencies [12:04] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.185.125) joined ##slackware. [12:04] <__n0v4__> ok I will do some research with slackpkg and get back to you guys [12:04] <__n0v4__> see ya [12:04] __n0v4__ (n0v4@59.93.241.166) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:07] hey hey hey, bytecode interpreter for freetype is off patent. [12:07] Action: arfon is loved and valued at work... [12:08] must be nice to be the coffeeboy? [12:08] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-4-243.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:08] All I can drink! [12:08] If they give me any grief, Sweet-n-low for them! [12:09] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:09] the whole concept of office/coffee boy is insanity [12:09] is it really that hard to get a cup of coffee for yourself? [12:10] When you're hard at work, chatting on ##Slackware, you don't want to lose your train of thought.... [12:10] that is a hazard [12:11] but what better way to defuse a flamewar then to run off and get another fix [12:11] Defuse? Why would you want to do that? [12:12] cause they're pointless and never accomplish anything [12:12] Youre wrong [12:12] :) [12:12] Action: phrag spent 3 days writing the best bash i've ever written.. and all i get for it is.. "have you written a php soap client yet?" =( [12:12] i think one of us should get some coffee about now [12:13] Sky, I like you. [12:13] hehe [12:13] What did your script do Phrag? [12:14] arfon, it runs slackware-mirror.sh with a single line! [12:15] SWEET! )I bet it can't get coffee though) [12:15] BTW )=( [12:16] So, the script is #!/bin/bash;slackware-mirror.sh;echo "done" ? [12:16] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.185.125) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:19] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.163.167) joined ##slackware. [12:20] VampX (~VampX@190.107.168.19) joined ##slackware. [12:21] phrag, ?? [12:24] Yandertal (znc@unaffiliated/yandertal) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:25] terry (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:26] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC984.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [12:28] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [12:29] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:29] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:31] Yandertal (znc@unaffiliated/yandertal) joined ##slackware. [12:32] it was an uber reporting script [12:32] hit all our boxes (~500) and generate custom reports about VM's, stats, info etc. [12:33] now i've gotta learn bloody SOAP / confluence API cause it's such a fanny on to insert text files into a wiki! [12:33] So, you're an 'expect god'? [12:33] precisely... only get noticed when you fuck up =P [12:33] terry (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [12:33] Action: phrag breaths and packs up for home =) [12:33] How do we tell what video driver is in use? [12:34] anyone know how to pass a thc drug test? [12:34] Having fought with expect beofre, I'm impressed. [12:34] Don't do drugs [12:34] lol [12:34] masterslakk: Yea, don't use thc [12:34] ... chill with that [12:34] i need serious answers [12:34] try #druggies? [12:34] Oh, you want the HARD way [12:34] masterslakk: about slackware? [12:34] phrag, i'm sure you can find a botnet to do it if you look carefully enough [12:34] druggies is empty [12:34] DOH [12:35] marijuana is not a drug... [12:35] sillly [12:35] botnets seem to be really good at editing wikis, [12:35] LOL Sky! [12:35] Apparently it is by the laws of the country you live in. [12:35] spiral_architect (~dan@164.64.40.243) joined ##slackware. [12:35] How do we tell what video driver we are using? [12:36] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:36] terry, lsmod or /var/log/Xorg.log [12:36] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:36] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:38] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [12:39] admboom: I looked at the Xorg log file and was hard to tell, but I do see "nvidia 7033658 0" in the output of lsmod [12:39] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [12:40] terry, for X, try looking specifically at the LoadModule lines, indicates each of the modules X pulls in [12:40] with the nvidia binary blob, my has this (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" [12:41] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [12:41] I installed nvidia-legacy173-driver-173.14.25-x86 & nvidia-legacy173-kernel-173.14.25_2.6.33.4_smp-x86 for my GeForce FX 5500 so I guess it's working.... [12:41] terry, did you have the nvidia installer update your Driver line in xorg.conf? [12:41] lord_darwin (~lord_darw@dynamic-66-243-235-236.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:42] admboom: I see: LoadModule: "nv" [12:42] in the output of grep LoadModule /var/log/Xorg.0.log [12:42] So.... Guess it's not looading. [12:42] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.223.82) joined ##slackware. [12:43] thats the open one, change the line in your xorg.conf to nvidia: Driver "nvidia" [12:43] Oh.. I have to create an xorg.conf file. [12:43] Yea [12:43] yea that. [12:43] ;) [12:43] Terry, why not install the actual nVidia drivers? [12:43] arfon: What? [12:43] How? [12:43] They has always worked for me. [12:43] lord_darwin (~lord_darw@dynamic-66-243-235-236.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] Go to nVidia.com and downlown the driver installer, then run it [12:43] terry, from your earlier line, sounds like you did [12:43] ^^ [12:44] lord_darwin (~lord_darw@dynamic-66-243-235-236.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:44] Yes, I installed nvidia-legacy173-driver-173.14.25-x86 & nvidia-legacy173-kernel-173.14.25_2.6.33.4_smp-x86 (for my GeForce FX 5500) [12:44] But need to run nvidia-configure or something like that, (which I didn't do). [12:44] Sorry, I though you were running the generic xorg nv driver. [12:45] nvidia-installer or nvidia-settings [12:45] Wait, with nVidia drivers, you DL them, get out of x and run them as root and they do everything else. [12:45] but I think I need to kill X first. [12:45] nVidia= yes, kill x... ATI = run in X [12:45] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:46] arfon: Yes, I'll be back. (have to kill X now) [12:46] Can't remember but you may need to chmod755 it [12:46] ATI = run in X ? [12:46] Yes, ATI, has a GUI installer included [12:46] synclient was a part of slackware 12.1, therefore it was never ported over to slackintosh 12.1... I need synclient to turn off the pad as a button funcion. im not sure if its a good idea grabbing the package from slack 13.1 and trying to build it for slackintosh 12.1. is there a work around? [12:46] arfon: I think I'll just telinit 3 [12:46] You don't HAVE to use it though [12:46] and do the config... [12:46] the ATI driver won't build on 11.3 [12:46] !ati [12:46] bah [12:46] sorry wrong channel ignore me [12:47] <--dislikes ATI also [12:47] Ok, I'll be back and let you know how it goes. [12:47] errr i messed up i mean it was a part of slack 13.1 sorry... typeo [12:47] terry (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:47] If your drivers are so flaky that Dark Age of Camelot won't run, you have a driver problem [12:47] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:48] If you do use ATI, it won't build on 2.6.34 just FYI [12:48] The default kenrel that comes with 13.1 it should work with [12:48] Action: arfon bought an ATI chiped motherboard then picked up a $40 nVidia card. [12:48] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:49] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:49] newyork (~newyork@p5DC927BF.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:49] Action: gniks cries... [12:49] why can't vmware make a vsphere client for linux [12:50] Not enough money in it. [12:50] their entire product is linux based :p [12:51] terry (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [12:52] tomaw (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) left irc: Quit: Quitting [12:52] there is lots of money to be made in linux [12:52] Ok, I only had to run nvidia-xconfig [12:52] It works now. [12:52] It just creates an xorg.conf file [12:54] xorg.conf files are very useful :) [12:55] tomaw (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) joined ##slackware. [12:56] ugggghhh, i cant just port that one file over, all of X needs to be upgraded? [12:56] Congrats Terry [12:57] Yandertal (znc@unaffiliated/yandertal) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:59] or is there some otherway I can interact with synaptics without that one package that is not in 12.1, but its in 12.2 [12:59] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host213-122-218-128.range213-122.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:00] hack xorg.conf on your own [13:01] KaMii: synclient isn't in 12.1? [13:02] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:04] cristianmanuel (~quassel@190.228.110.180) joined ##slackware. [13:08] no its not [13:08] i found the source in 12.2 [13:08] so im compiling [13:08] okay, i have a need to chmod and chown a bunch of files on a downloaded basis, how do i make a script 'chown -R stu:users filename && chmod -R 770 filename' in one go plus allow me to specify filenames when i run the script? [13:09] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [13:11] stu_, you can make a dir for the downloads and a batch that will make the change for all files in that dir (*) perhaps? [13:11] shonudo, sounds do-able [13:11] ported and installed, now just gotta figure out how to turn on SMClient [13:11] errr SMHConfig [13:17] stu: to allow you to pass filenames, use $1 $2 $3 etc [13:19] example: #!/bin/bash; echo "this is file 1 $1, this is file 2 $2" [13:19] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-222-237-217.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:20] Yandertal (znc@unaffiliated/yandertal) joined ##slackware. [13:20] ok think i got SMHConfig on... I hope, I just add the option to xorg.conf or do I have to have a module load at boot? [13:22] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:22] Nick change: bunnyboi -> jennifur [13:25] arfon, that's slick -- works [13:27] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:28] YAY! I love it when I'm useful! [13:28] (for more than getting cofee) [13:29] (and mis-spelling coffee) [13:29] neBu (1000@neBu.ro) joined ##slackware. [13:29] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:29] arfon, you're welcome to get me some coffee now that you mention it... :) [13:30] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:30] stu_, i'm not quite sure i understand what you want to specify the filename for... [13:30] you want to change file permissions, i get that [13:30] Action: arfon sends shonudo coffee. [COFFEE] [13:30] do you want to change filenames (i.e., a sequence of some sort -- file1.xxx file2.xxx)? [13:31] arfon, thanks! [13:31] stu_: or does making a dir for these files you want to change permissions on solve all problems? [13:31] Having done the filename change thingie, I can tell you that you have to write the script so it reads each filename sequentially and changes the name. The * trick won't work. [13:32] indeed [13:32] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [13:32] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [13:32] that's what i was thinking [13:32] if you *, you'll probably end up trying to rename everything to the same name, and the batch will not work [13:33] or it will, and you'll end up overwriting everything, ending up with one file [13:33] hello slackworld [13:33] hey shyko [13:34] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:34] To read a directory sequentially, use something like: for file in $(find -type f -iname '*.log' -maxdepth 1 | cut -c3-50 ); do; blah blah blah; done [13:34] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-4-243.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:35] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-123-198.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:35] change that 'blah blah blah' to 'echo $file' and test it [13:37] stu_, it's your 'project' -- test what arfon just suggested [13:38] looks like it'll work [13:38] BTW, that 'cut -c3-50' is in there because I wanted to drop the first 2 letters of the filename (for a reason I can't remember) [13:39] were you working with files that all started with the same prefix/characters? [13:39] Something like that... [13:39] Zordrak: here? [13:39] I was parsing log files for some reason. [13:40] no filename change. just a script that chowns and chmods files i specify. e.g: if i wanna process 1.xxx, i can just type ./script 1.xxx [13:40] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-4-243.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:41] easy /#!/bin/bash; chown stu:users $1; chmod 777 $1 [13:42] oh, $1 was what i was looking for, thanks [13:42] arfon, what if i want to make it a multi input script? $1 $2 $3? [13:42] e.g: if i wanna make it ./script 1.xxx 2.xxx 3.xxx [13:43] I would load $1 $2 $3... into a bash array and then use a for loop. [13:44] ...but that's how I roll [13:44] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [13:44] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb71e.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:45] BTW, Bash will treat blank spaces as delimiters so you can just files="$1 $2 $3 $4 $5" [13:45] Then for the $files [13:47] darkrho (~darkrho@host-190-11-76-150.supernet.com.bo) joined ##slackware. [13:47] VampX (~VampX@190.107.168.19) left irc: Quit: VampX [13:48] ok [13:49] heck, you MAY be able to just: 'files="$1 $2 $3 $4 $5 $6";chown stu:users $files;chmod 777 $files' (I'm not sure that will work) [13:50] so why bother? why not just put the files that you want to change permission on in a dir and * them all? [13:50] Shonudo, that's how he rolls [13:50] :) [13:50] :) [13:51] Tsooi (~scruffy@ti0125a380-0156.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [13:51] okay now i have a bunch of simple scripts in my ~/scripts dir and i wanna set a path to it so i can run those scripts from anywhere when i'm logged on as user stu, which file do i edit, .bashrc? google doesn't seem to have decent info on path [13:51] YAY! One of our Windows server just died again.... [13:52] why not just drop them in /usr/local/sbin? [13:52] that's what I do [13:52] ok, so everything i am reading about SMHClient says I need to edit a HAL file.. i did that.. doesnt work [13:52] Dir hiearchy be DAMNED! [13:53] i like to put my own personal scripts in ~/bin [13:53] and then put ~/bin in my search path [13:53] Rebel [13:53] its just how we did it in the olden days [13:54] 2005 called, they want thier proceedure back Sky. [13:54] tell 'em to come get 'em [13:54] :) [13:54] No thanks, they look mean [13:55] i'm still playing games from 2005 [13:55] You haven't won yet???? [13:55] Give it up bud [13:56] i've won plenty of times, but every race is a chance anew [13:56] I know that feeling. I get it everytime I type ./configure;make;make install [13:57] i race other people online, its a blast [13:57] i used to race in real life, and you can't get hurt doing this [13:57] Tux racer? [13:57] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:57] except for maybe carpal tunnel [13:57] no, gtr2 [13:57] Never heard of it. :( [13:58] Action: arfon stills plays Transport Tycoon Deluxe [13:58] it was really only popular in the racing crowd [13:58] Ah [13:58] skywise, i'm a fan [13:58] good race sim [13:58] it might run under wine [13:58] cool, you still race any? [13:58] sometimes [13:58] theres a patch to reenable the game servers [13:59] Don't let the DMCA police hear that [13:59] i still play x-com [13:59] i run a simlevel all the time, but i'm making setups still [13:59] Nice [13:59] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [13:59] i've found i'm really not much of a gamer... what i end up doing is goofing on stuff like morrowind -- goofing in the sense that i take walks around the environment till the little critters get me [14:00] do you play the xcom opensource remake stu? [14:00] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [14:00] i like racing motogp 2 as well [14:00] that has the best physics of the series [14:00] after 2, they started making it for the xbox [14:01] so they have to accomodate sloppy controllers and kids who want to win all the time [14:01] so its arcade level rather then sim [14:01] what do you use as a controller/interface for gtr2, skywise? [14:01] Well, guys, it's lunch time... [14:01] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:01] i've had good response from a joystick [14:01] i use a logitech momo force wheel [14:01] cu arfon, wherever you are [14:02] nice; i thought about getting a wheel once upon a time [14:02] i really like it , its got both paddle shifters and a shift knob [14:02] i use the shift knob for brake bias and the paddles for gears [14:02] i almost got one during the fire sale that was compusa [14:02] hm, i did a PATH=$PATH:/my/scripts/dir , export PATH in my bash_profile but i still can't get my scripts in that dir to work? [14:02] and then i have 6 other buttons on the face of the wheel i can use with my thumbs [14:03] stu_, did you make the scripts executable? [14:03] (silly question, but always worth asking) [14:03] shonudo, yeah, it says file not found though, so i'm pretty sure i did the path thing wrong, but i don't know where [14:03] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:04] stu_, try "closing" the path phrase perhaps (that is, add a / at the end) [14:04] don't know [14:05] if you can navigate to it using /my/scripts/dir it should be working [14:08] this is annoying me, I cannot for the life of me get SMHConfig enabled [14:08] well duh me [14:08] what was it? [14:08] i kept typing ./script when just 'script' would suffice [14:08] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7DD61.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:08] nice! [14:08] problem solved [14:09] too bad arfon isn't here to say: "YAY!" [14:10] can someone please try to help me either get SMHConfig enabled or to help me disable my trackpad to stop being a mouse button in slackintosh 12.1 [14:11] shonudo, any idea how to remove paths btw? [14:11] no, not really... alter them, i would think [14:12] skywise, any recommendation? [14:12] sorry, Skywise, any recommendation? [14:13] Nick change: WireWulf -> Wulf-is-not-here [14:13] you can get the momo for abour $100 maybe $75 on sale, there are rc controller style wheels for $25 or less [14:13] Wulf-is-not-here: please, no nick change when going away [14:14] if you're not gonna race too much then get the cheaper, otherwise get a good wheel with force feedback [14:14] Skywise, not a recommendation on the momo -- a recommendation for stu_ as to how to "remove a path" [14:14] oh i wasn't watching, lemme scroll back [14:14] he created a path; how would he "uncreate" it? [14:15] i would just set the path correctly [14:15] yeah, so just alter it; that's what i thought [14:15] rather then just keep appending [14:15] or he can logout and back in [14:16] stu_, does that help? [14:17] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@2001:470:1f0b:655::10) joined ##slackware. [14:19] k how do i set the path isntead of appending [14:19] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-4-243.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:20] chance22 (~chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:22] Nick change: troy_ -> troy [14:29] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [14:34] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:35] stu, you just don't include the $PATH variable at the front [14:35] just do PATH=/your/path:/etc.../ [14:37] sirslacker|Busy (1000@s0982.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:37] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:37] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.26.13) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:38] saivinoba (~saivinoba@82.178.69.49) joined ##slackware. [14:39] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [14:40] Hello. I'm trying to make a chroot jail for a user so it can be used with SCP. I'm using this guide http://www.howtoforge.com/chrooted-ssh-sftp-tutorial-debian-lenny and on the sshd_config setup it sais i have to add "Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server" but in slacks sshd_config there is a "Subsystem sftp /usr/*libexec*/openssh/sftp-server" line. Do i leave it that way? [14:40] saivinoba (saivinoba@82.178.69.49) left ##slackware. [14:42] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:42] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [14:43] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.26.13) joined ##slackware. [14:43] samfisher, the correct answer depends on where sftp-server resides on your system [14:43] hahaahahah excellent [14:43] http://www.damnvulnerablelinux.org/ [14:44] i still haven't figure out the point of that distro [14:44] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:45] Skywise: it's in /theuser/chrootjail [14:45] Skywise: we use it at work [14:45] Yes, user's home is not /home/myuser [14:46] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] samfisher, can't you make that the user's shell and home directory in their login parameters? [14:47] Skywise: i don't understand :) [14:47] you don't have to make /bin/bash a user's login shell [14:47] oh, ok [14:47] and you don't have to have their home directory be /home/myuser [14:48] Skywise: the same user has to login physically on the machine too. [14:48] oh ok [14:48] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:49] my way is what i do just to give sftp access [14:49] do they need to run shell commands on the server? [14:49] no [14:49] then they don't need shell access [14:49] just login and use slack's apps (firefox, koffice) and SCP [14:49] they can move their files around and such with sftp [14:50] oh ic [14:50] great [14:50] so they do need to run [14:51] FTP is kinda obsolete and provides no security. I also tried having a apache vhost with a php file upload script, but that might be suicidal with my actual php skills.. [14:52] SCP or SFTP seems the best way, but i don't want them to move around my server [14:52] you should use a cms or webdav [14:52] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [14:53] Did ya miss me? [14:53] you were gone? [14:53] :( [14:53] did you bring coffee? [14:53] Tea [14:53] ah well [14:53] Animeking (~kvirc@adsl-64-176-21.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.1.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/ [14:53] Chick-fil-a tea [14:53] nice [14:53] i'll take the sandwich too [14:53] pizza for me [14:53] I'm not done with the sandwich yet. [14:53] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:54] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [14:54] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [14:54] i'm not gonna want it after you're done [14:54] Sorry Sam, you're on your own [14:55] how was lunch? (other than short) [14:55] I <3 chic-fil-a [14:55] lol [14:55] lmao [14:55] But the idiots on the road p1ss me off [14:55] you typed that and ali belshi and ed henry just started on chic-fil-a on CNN [14:56] too funny [14:56] cnn has a chic-fil-a in their building [14:56] lol [14:56] i saw it too [14:56] lol [14:56] you too! [14:56] lmao [14:56] God is telling you guys something [14:56] i'm so jealous, we just have a quiznos [14:56] I <3 Quiznos [14:56] wonder if that's on msnbc right now [14:57] they're not chic-fil-a [14:57] we'll never know [14:57] My two favorite fast food [14:57] Do you two work together? [14:57] nope [14:57] nope... not until this act gets polished and we hit vegas [14:57] Did I just enter the Twlight Zone? [14:57] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.100.166) joined ##slackware. [14:57] hrm... Xorg is not loading the synaptics module when it starts.. do you know if there is a command I can issue after x is loaded to tell it to load the module? [14:57] Is one of you and evil talking dummy? [14:58] modprobe [14:58] isnt modprobe used at kernel boot, not xorg? [14:58] evil, no. saracastic maybe [14:59] (Did you see how seamlessly I answered a question WHILE being dumb?) [14:59] that was beautiful [14:59] If it's a kernel module, you insert it anytime with modprobe [14:59] you could even load the module before x [15:00] which might be a good idea... [15:00] and you can add it to rc.local or whatever to automate it, iirc [15:00] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.52.40.static.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:01] Better place: rc.modules [15:01] oh i found the problem... the lib is in the wrong directory [15:02] I hate it when my lib is in the wrong directory [15:02] I hate it even more when it complains /usr/lib/libpr0n.4.so is missing but when you ls /usr/lib, there's libpr0n.4.so! [15:03] indeed, use rc.modules [15:03] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.100.166) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:04] at any rate, the idea is that you can automate this and not have to dig around for it everytime [15:04] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [15:04] I wish you could make a udev rule.... [15:04] Animeking (~Edgar@adsl-64-176-21.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] <--being dumb [15:05] your wishes mean nothing to udev [15:05] udev pisses me off [15:05] mario (~mario@orion.slackverse.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:06] yeah, i'm wondering how it got to be a good idea [15:06] Why can't nerds ever comeup with human readable things? [15:06] i think its to keep people from helping [15:06] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [15:07] Well, it is nice to be able to manipulate things based on what gets pulgged in /detected. [15:07] plugged-in I meant [15:07] yes, because it never has any negative side effects [15:07] :) [15:08] I wonder, if you tell udev to assign the same eth0 lable to two different adapters, would it blow up like making an honesty-machine say "This is a lie"? [15:08] omg he's drawing a penis on cnn [15:08] sirslacker|Busy (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [15:09] blowing up... that sounds like a serious side effect [15:09] That's a blow-out preventer [15:09] oh man, the places this could go... [15:10] now everyone wants to play with the big board... [15:11] they're having too much fun with the finger painting [15:11] mario (~mario@orion.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [15:11] indeed [15:11] :| what passes for news, You sure you're not watching Romper Room? [15:11] not entirely [15:11] not positively sure [15:11] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-112-188-139.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:12] (shows age) [15:12] i rather liked romper room, but i can't remember why [15:12] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-112-188-139.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:12] cnn and the fine (or not so fine) art of milking a story [15:12] omg, thats the truth [15:13] ok that dude is crazy [15:13] yeah, no doubt [15:13] and he may win [15:13] lol [15:13] that's the crazy part [15:13] i hope so [15:13] it would be a gag win if he did [15:13] Action: arfon feels like he's listening to a baseball game on the radio. [15:13] but they pretty much hate dems in sc [15:13] arfon, the carolina dem running for the senate [15:14] the guy out of nowhere [15:14] the cinderella story [15:14] or not [15:14] theres this unemployed guy who was discharged from both the army and air force some how raised $10,000 to run for the senate and won the democratic nomination [15:15] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:15] the primaries are open to all voters [15:15] The amazing thing is that he won with $10K. [15:15] yeah, he holds his campaign flyer like a medal [15:16] Good for him [15:16] still didnt load... even though now everything is in the right dirctory [15:16] seriously, why is this becoming such a huge issue? [15:16] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [15:16] KaMii, I can't tell you, I don't use what you are trying to load [15:17] Are you trying to load the Debian package manager? [15:17] Synaptic? [15:17] i've seen better campaign speeches for passing out the bug juice in camp then this guy greene [15:17] no im trying to load the sysconfig [15:17] or use it [15:18] and it keeps complaining that SHMConfig is not enabled [15:18] what does it say when you try and start it with a console? [15:18] and I am doing everything I can on all help pages to get it to load, but it wont [15:18] i cant even start it with the console [15:18] i dont know how [15:18] everything says to load it with xorg.conf [15:18] but xorg.cong wont do it [15:18] open a console and type the command : e.g Firefox [15:19] which command? [15:19] I'm sorry, I have never played with it so, I'm at a loss [15:19] maybe one of the lurkers knows [15:19] all i want to do is disable the touchpad from acting like a mouse button [15:20] what is the name of the program you are trying to start? [15:20] OH [15:20] its not really a program but a module [15:20] and since that module was not present in slack 12.1 I built it from 12.2 sources [15:20] but its not working [15:21] so... maybe its impossible? if so, what did they use to mess with synaptics before 12.2? [15:21] google this: How to Disable Touchpad Tapping in Linux | eHow.com [15:22] i have googled all that, and it wants me using synclient [15:22] and synclient is not a part of 12.1 [15:22] so I tried to build it from source .... it built but its not loading [15:24] No it doesn't. That article tells you how to configure org.conf [15:24] cant i just do this from inside xfce or something? i mean this is begging to be overly ridiculous.. i have been working on this for 4 hours and nothing [15:24] I didnt see synclient anywhere in it [15:24] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.100.166) joined ##slackware. [15:25] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:26] not going to work arfon because that xorg.conf help is assuming you have synclient installed [15:27] thats why it talks about "Synaptics" [15:27] How? It doesn't say anything about synclient [15:27] its the "Synapitcs" part that never loads [15:27] Oh [15:27] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.52.40.static.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:28] so that probably wont work as it needs synaptics loading before xorg can do anything with synapics [15:28] I fall back to my "I've never done this before" statement then [15:28] nvision (~nvision@e179132060.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:28] so... how did they control synaptics before 12.2? [15:28] Just curious, is synaptics a mouse option during slackware install? [15:29] the touchpad works, so something is loaded that recognizes my touchpad [15:29] but how do I configure it? [15:29] no its not [15:29] Probably handled by bios [15:29] well during install i chose ps/2 [15:29] i just want to turn the tap off [15:30] I have install slack on MANY laptops and the touchpad always works as a PS2 so, I assume that BIOS is handling it. [15:30] stu_ (~stu@175.137.163.69) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:30] ...but, I have never seen a tapping option in BIOS [15:30] whoever invented the tap, should die [15:30] i hate tapping [15:30] :) [15:30] That would be the French [15:31] its the most annoying thing in the world [15:31] and dangerous [15:31] No, "I see you are writing a letter" is way more annoying. [15:31] you know how many times something accidentally initated due to the tap? [15:31] Yes [15:31] disable it [15:31] stu_ (~stu@175.137.163.69) joined ##slackware. [15:31] I <3 my portable mouse [15:32] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:32] well im hoping it will annoy enough people in here so someone will have an answer and help me out with this [15:32] I like my touchpad [15:32] {waits for the explosion og KaMii's head] [15:32] not that I use the laptop alot [15:32] so how did you disable the tap mako-sama ? [15:32] let me look at my xorg.conf [15:32] and if you say synclient... its not working [15:32] KaMii: easy. I have a synaptic touchpad. unlike your mac :P [15:33] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) joined ##slackware. [15:33] anything in your xorg that says "synaptics" doesnt work [15:33] no.. it just works [15:33] as it always have been [15:33] X will not load if I have "Synaptics" in there [15:34] but you said that you have a mac and that your touchpad is made by someone else. right? [15:34] fatalnix (~fatalnix@238.sub-75-237-26.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [15:34] few days ago, that waws [15:34] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:34] what do you mean made by someone else? [15:34] bijit (~bijit@186.4.3.18) joined ##slackware. [15:34] manufactured by another compnay [15:34] company* [15:35] ummm, that wasnt me you were talking to [15:35] hmm... are you sure? you're not the guy who has an ibook? [15:35] first off, im not a guy [15:36] second, im sure [15:36] my iBook is an official iBook and I never said anything to the contrary [15:36] Whats up! I'm on the bus to southern maine, free fast wifi you can actually game on "ON" the bus! [15:36] :D [15:36] it doesn't matter if you're not a guy. IRC is genderless :P [15:37] bijit (~bijit@186.4.3.18) left irc: Client Quit [15:37] :S then why did you bring it up... geez we are getting off topic [15:37] bijit (~bijit@186.4.3.18) joined ##slackware. [15:37] is there a variable to shutdown -h at 6a.m. later? [15:37] man at [15:38] shutdown(8) takes a time argument. [15:38] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [15:39] Beellinda (ems62m@182.2.85.255) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:40] at is more general :p [15:41] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7DD61.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:41] VampX (~VampX@201.218.68.99) joined ##slackware. [15:42] What could I do to have a small linux kernel on a very old machine (pentium 3) with win98 and to boot that kernel in order to have access to usb thub drives? [15:42] is that feasable? [15:43] Tadgy (tadgy@unaffiliated/tadgy) left ##slackware. [15:43] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:44] kernelos recompileos [15:45] greek? [15:45] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=linux:kernelbuilding [15:45] english [15:46] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-141-107.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:47] Hi [15:48] What are modules to load for the cpufreq ? I load acpi_cpufreq, cpufreq-info give me informations but not able to change the freq with coufreq [15:48] pupit: ok, I know how some on how to compile, but I can't see how that would work? on that thumb drive a have a slackware installation [15:49] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:49] samfisher: you dont have slack installed? [15:50] fatalnix (~fatalnix@238.sub-75-237-26.myvzw.com) left irc: Disconnected by services [15:52] KaMii [15:52] Are you running 13.1? [15:52] samfisher: have you enabled zee HAL? [15:53] Kamii iiiiiiiiiiii [15:53] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:53] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [15:54] How do you see a page URL in Lynx? [15:54] newyork (~newyork@p5DC927BF.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:55] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.94.149) joined ##slackware. [15:55] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-123-198.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [15:57] = [15:58] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-3-233.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] Ok, KaMii, if you ever read this, Slackware 13.1 has the Synaptics driver built in, it's under /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/ . try editing your xorg.conf like this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/here-are-synaptics-settings-for-slackware-13-a-753021/ [16:00] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:00] ok i got it working [16:01] what did you do? [16:01] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] but now when i do grep synaptics /var/log/Xorg.0.log [16:01] does anyone in here use any kind of sound recorder for insturments? [16:01] it loads the module, then it uloads the module [16:01] i need to keep it loaded [16:01] why does it unload? [16:02] is it loaded in your input section of xorg.conf? [16:02] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:02] I use Reel-to-Reel Spartan [16:02] yes, the log file shows it loads, it finds the device, says its working, then it unloads the module [16:03] Is it specifically called as your mouse driver in xorg.conf? [16:03] i also added the lines to my xorg like that howto file said, but tapping is still enabled [16:03] probably because it unloads the module? [16:03] arfon: can I get it from synaptic? [16:03] yes it is specifically called [16:03] grrr [16:03] so, your xorg.conf mouse protion looks like: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/here-are-synaptics-settings-for-slackware-13-a-753021/ [16:04] protion=portion [16:04] oh wait... no i was wrong, read too fast, its saying no synaptic devices were found [16:04] so it unloaded [16:04] Spartan, I don't think there is a ReVox pacakge [16:04] damn. Thanks, though [16:05] Can you paste the mouse input driver line of your xorg.conf? [16:06] Spartan, why don't you use audacity? [16:07] audacity? hmm. I think I've heard of that. You ever hear of ardour? [16:08] Nope, Audacity does what I need [16:08] true. "Use what you need", eh? [16:08] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:08] Wait, you've never heard of Audacity!?! [16:08] EVERYONE has heard of audacity [16:09] gimmie a sec and I'll tell you... [16:09] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430770.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:10] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430770.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:10] jennifur__ (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:10] yep, I've seen this before [16:10] 'cept comeone slapped another name on it... [16:10] someone** [16:10] The fakers! [16:11] ha, I know, right? [16:11] Audacity is all I ever use.... I can't speak on anything else [16:11] ..and like most of my endeavors, it's been a long time since I've messed with it so... [16:12] haha [16:12] I get ya [16:12] jennifur (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:13] pastebin.com/HGEuWRZL [16:13] Nick change: jennifur__ -> bunnyboy [16:14] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [16:15] Nick change: Yandertal -> _Lucifer [16:16] really... [16:17] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-znyikgibypytuftf) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:18] Okay KaMii your problem is "Synaptics no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device" [16:18] Nick change: bunnyboy -> bunnyboi [16:19] Google shows a zillion pages on this and some with "+Slackware". I can't read them on my tiny Lynx display [16:19] I saw some SOLVED on then, go to town [16:20] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:20] mkay arfon will do [16:21] Linux Questions had some answers but they all show BOLDED on my display and I can't read a 5pt bold [16:22] brb [16:22] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-4-243.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:23] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [16:23] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:27] gh0 (~gh0@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:27] uuuuh KaMii is not a guy... [16:28] :) [16:28] botz! [16:28] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-63-4.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:29] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:29] funny little article; http://www.junauza.com/2010/07/how-to-make-windows-faster-than-linux.html [16:32] stinky: "...i hope you all enjoyed reading this crap stuff" aka - eat da poo poo [16:32] nicolas (~nicolas@ALille-154-1-36-215.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:32] Slacking_Man (~Slacking_@pm1dialin-21.danbbs.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:33] pupit: excuse me? [16:33] i don't get it [16:33] its a remix song [16:33] oh.. okaaay [16:33] from the youtube title eat da poo poo [16:34] nicolas (nicolas@ALille-154-1-36-215.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware. [16:34] as the last sentence in the article points out that we red a crappy article.. [16:35] oh hahah [16:35] i see it now [16:35] Any luck KaMii? [16:35] i found that dmesg is not reporting it [16:36] so i guess kernel is not loading it [16:36] tekzilla (~jon@d030219.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:36] i gotta find out how to load it, better would be to figure out what device the iBook G4 uses [16:36] Hmmm... [16:37] and the funny thing is, half of the **SOLVED** files contradict eachother [16:37] so... its of little help [16:37] spiral_architect (~dan@164.64.40.243) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:37] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Sto andando via [16:37] tekzilla (~jon@d008035.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [16:38] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:39] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [16:39] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [16:39] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:40] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-4-243.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:42] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:43] awwww i found a page that sounds like it will help me becaues it secifically talks about apple computers... BUT, they phale to tell me what file to edit, they just tell me what to put in the file.... [16:43] bah [16:44] en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Synaptics_Touchpad [16:44] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [16:44] under kernel settings... what file is that they are editing? [16:44] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [16:45] also they say to edit a /etc/make.conf but that file does not exist, is it somewhere else on slackware? [16:45] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: gone [16:45] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ADijon-554-1-141-107.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:47] Slacking_Man (Slacking_@pm1dialin-21.danbbs.dk) left ##slackware. [16:47] that sounds Gentoo-specific, probably something about setting flags for make(1) [16:50] the kernel driver is loaded, when i cat /dev/input/mouse1 I get output when I use the trackpad [16:50] sirslacker|Busy (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:50] hehehe (cat and mouse) [16:50] juice (1000@67.48.16.165) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:50] KaMii run this and tell me if it is commented out: cat /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf | grep imps [16:51] or is that not a good test to see if the driver is loaded? [16:51] KaMii, kernel settings means in the kernel's configuration; unless you're recompiling the kernel, ignore it. [16:51] ok thrice` [16:51] KaMii: What are you trying to do with your touchpad? [16:51] alienBOB (~alien@h202078.upc-h.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:51] alienBOB (~alien@h202078.upc-h.chello.nl) left irc: Changing host [16:51] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [16:51] disable tapping [16:52] KaMii, what is the result of: cat /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf | grep imps [16:52] KaMii: google tap to click hal and I believe that should sort you out [16:52] or even disable tap to click [16:53] KaMii: there is a udev rules thingy you want to use for that.. 1 sec lemme pastebin mine [16:53] cat: /etc/modprobe.d/mouse.conf: No such file or directory [16:53] what???? [16:53] i already created the hal file wescotte [16:53] no PS mouse.conf [16:54] psmounse.conf [16:54] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host213-122-218-128.range213-122.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:55] there is a psmouse file [16:55] but not psmouse.conf [16:55] KaMii: oh.. disable it outside of X? [16:55] how [16:55] ok, is the #options psmouse proto=imps commented or uncommented [16:56] in the psmouse [16:56] uncommented [16:56] Nick change: Kaapa -> RastaKaapa [16:56] THAT is the problem [16:56] On many systems, the xf86-input-synaptics driver requires the psmouse kernel [16:56] kernel module be loaded without any special options. This poses a problem on a [16:56] default Slackware installation, as /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse causes the psmouse [16:56] module to load with the imps protocol. [16:56] arfon: I don't think I've had to do that in 13.0 or 13.1.. [16:57] comment that line out and run: modprobe -r psmouse; modprobe psmouse [16:57] just installed emacs from 13.1 to 13.0, but two libs libjpeg and libpng must be also updated, does anybody know whether libjpeg8 and libpng14 have also other deps? [16:57] My 13.1 psmouse.conf has it commenetd out by default [16:57] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7DD61.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:57] ok done [16:57] Comment that sucker, reload the modules and try X again [16:58] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:58] gonna reload now [16:58] Action: arfon crosses fingers [16:58] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-4-243.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:58] If this doesn't work, I'm giving up. [16:58] Nick change: RastaKaapa -> Kaapa [16:59] mmmm tapioca [16:59] I do recall doing that in the past though.. Just not recently.. but yeah it's defaulted that way now.. :) [17:01] didnt help [17:01] :( [17:01] Okay, I give up... [17:01] fan [17:01] Did the x synaptics driver load and stay loaded ? [17:01] stu_ (~stu@175.137.163.69) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:01] no [17:01] same thing [17:01] I hate your computer [17:02] i hate apple [17:02] im not convinced the kernel has the driver loaded [17:02] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:02] when does that happen? at boot or when X starts? [17:03] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-106.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:03] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-95-61.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:03] Well, several pages I looked over said "xf86-input-synaptics" and "psmouse kernel driver" [17:03] KaMii: http://pastebin.ca/1903942 <-- my 11-x11-synaptics.fdi hal policy file if this helps.. It disables tapping.. [17:04] did you modprode -r psmouse? [17:04] juice (1000@67.48.16.165) joined ##slackware. [17:04] when you 'lsmod | grep psmouse', does it show the driver? [17:05] hersonls (~hersonls@189.43.141.102) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:06] The kernel drivers start at boot, the x-drivers start with x [17:06] am0rphis (~qwe@79.124.136.95) joined ##slackware. [17:08] Action: arfon wonders what's going on on CNN [17:09] klein (~klein@unaffiliated/klein) joined ##slackware. [17:09] klein (klein@unaffiliated/klein) left ##slackware. [17:10] lain_ (~lain@146-35-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:10] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.100.166) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:10] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Sto andando via [17:13] wescotte: where do you put that file? [17:13] KaMii: /etc/hal/fdi/policy [17:14] because i created a file in there a long time ago [17:14] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:14] shmconfig.fdi [17:16] but i will try yours, should i delete mine if I use yours also? [17:16] also do i need to chmod + x that file? [17:16] i have never messed with hal before [17:17] KaMii: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.9K 2010-05-27 03:10 11-x11-synaptics.fdi <-- my permissions [17:18] ok i will try this, gonna reboot that machine... again [17:18] KaMii: 0 <-- pretty sure this is the line that actually disables the tapping [17:20] colmcille (~colmcille@94.30.27.232) joined ##slackware. [17:20] o/ [17:21] xovan (~chatzilla@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] wescotte: that didnt work [17:22] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [17:22] KaMii: slack 13.1? [17:23] Kamii, may I suggest one more thing.... Reboot your computer. [17:23] sure wescotte you wanna port that over to slackintosh for me? [17:23] arfon: i just did [17:23] Reboot it harder [17:23] :) [17:23] ok i will try this, gonna reboot that machine... again [17:23] with a hammer [17:24] Action: KaMii hates synaptics [17:24] crap - kde is having problems at a customer :( [17:24] it appears to be something with the file browser [17:24] o_o [17:24] Jimi, it's probably the synaptics driver [17:24] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-4-243.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:24] (JK) [17:24] slack 64 13.0 [17:24] arfon: i am just not conviced the kernel is loading the driver [17:24] i think thats the issue [17:25] but i dont know how to look [17:25] KaMii: lsmod? [17:25] (maybe that was already suggested, i haven't read the scroll back) [17:25] For the xorg.conf to work, you have to load the synaptics xdriver... The Synaptics xdriver isn't loading, probably because of a kernel driver problem [17:25] KaMii: You sure you have a synaptics touchpad? [17:26] from what ive read the iBook G4 uses synaptics touchpad [17:26] if not, what is it? [17:27] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:28] KaMii: you have an xorg.conf file? [17:28] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:28] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [17:28] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:31] yes i do [17:31] and i have been editing it like crazy for the past 6 hours [17:31] KaMii: did you modify it to load the synaptics driver? [17:31] yes [17:32] KaMii: back up your current xorg.org and just erase it.. Try starting X w/o an xorg.conf file.. [17:32] what will that accomplish? [17:33] it was virtually empty when i started this thing [17:33] KaMii: let X autodetect what it can.. You generally don't need an xorg.conf anymore.. You might have something wrong that is causing it to incorrectly identify your touchpad [17:33] :S remeber im on 12.1 [17:34] oh I thought you said 13.1... [17:34] well, still give it a shot.. [17:34] no there is not port of 13.1 to ppc yet [17:34] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [17:34] pastebin your current xorg.conf for me once.. [17:34] nvision_ (~nvision@g225056059.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [17:35] nvision (~nvision@e179132060.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:35] ananke (~ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [17:36] that dont work, X wont load when i delete it [17:37] unless you want me to run it as root? [17:38] Guest39975 (~none@modemcable007.21-57-74.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:38] well Xorg -config as root will generate an xorg.conf file [17:38] Hi [17:38] yes Grifulkin but thats not what wescotte wanted me to do [17:38] KaMii: you can try that now.. I think it'll have the same issue but give it a shot [17:38] and trust me, this thing wasnt working when I had started with a new xorg.conf [17:38] yeah I know he wanted you to start the X server without a config file [17:39] I just installed Slackware trying to get the most minimalist system I could get. I can't run liloconfig, I'd like to know what package I forgot please. [17:39] starting X w/o a xorg.conf essentially does a Xorg -config I believe.. It just doesn't write the xorg.conf file.. [17:39] Guest39975, lilo [17:40] and its Xorg -configure [17:40] Lol. I do have lilo installed. [17:40] The problem is that when I run liloconfig, nothing happens... Maybe is it missing a library? [17:40] did you run it as root? [17:40] KaMii, look at http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=66397 [17:41] KaMii: can you show me your xorg.conf via pastebin or something like it? [17:41] for some reason bittorrent wrefuses to work... and ideas? [17:41] gh0 (~gh0@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:42] refuses**, sorry [17:42] Yes, I actually ran it from a chrooted environment (host being the cdrom) and root was the only user. [17:42] Spartan, do you have libtorrent installed? [17:42] I'm not sure, but I think it is... hold u~on a sec... [17:42] Guest, can you put the setup disk back in and re-run the lilosetup portion? [17:44] Wescotte, the problem is that the X Synaptices driver doesn't find a synaptice device [17:44] No, I tried to re-run the configure option, but I never got prompt for liloconfig... It must be that something is missing because when I don't install 'network-script' (n), I don't get prompt for network configuration. [17:44] no go wescotte [17:45] im going to pastebin my xorg.conf [17:45] colmcille (~colmcille@94.30.27.232) left irc: Quit: NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o [17:46] KaMii: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=66397 <-- arfon recommended you read this. Might be the solution you need [17:46] it is, but the text-mode bittorrent command won't work... [17:46] Nobody knows? [17:47] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [17:47] I'll try a complete install and see if liloconfig works (btw, it was working 2-3 days before). [17:47] Do you guys read Linux Magazine? Which one do you prefer? [17:48] Okay Spartan, since you have libtorrent, go to slackbuilds and get rtorrent. Then dump bittorrent :) [17:48] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) left irc: Quit: exit error code 434 [17:48] Guest, Playbot [17:48] ah, thanks ^^ [17:49] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-3-233.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:49] pastebin.com/9HiNmNz6 [17:49] PlayBot? [17:49] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:49] Playbot and "Ye Old Fortan", that's a good night. [17:50] [looks around] [17:50] Fortan=Fortran [17:50] Seriously, Linux Magazine and Linux Gazette [17:51] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [17:51] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-63-4.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:51] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430770.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [17:51] Bender is great, oh Bender is great! [17:52] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430770.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:53] wescotte: thats talking about new macs, im not on a new mac... its not a macbook or macbook pro, im using an iBook G4 [17:53] i thought all the macbooks were on intel now... so he probably isnt using a port, like Slackintosh [17:53] :( [17:54] Action: KaMii is going to go find steve jobbs and ask him, whats the deal? [17:54] KaMii, get some resin, fillin the touchpad indention and use a USB mouse [17:54] hahaha arfon [17:54] but, no [17:54] Awww [17:54] I thought I had the answer [17:55] KaMii: hmm dunno what to tell you.. :( [17:55] nail + hammer? [17:55] is there a way to physically break it so touch click wont work? probably not [17:55] KaMii, Google "Linux User Groups" +your zipcode... Go to a meeting [17:56] Let one of the brainiacs figure it out first hand. [17:56] uh.. my zip code is in sweden [17:56] and no way will my parents let me meet people from the internet [17:56] Okay, google "Linux User Groups in Sweden that haven't been wiped out by polar bears"..... [17:57] there are no polar bears in Sweden [17:57] almsot everyone is "from the intenret" these days [17:57] you know what i mean NyteOwl [17:57] I'm not, I'm from Virginia [17:58] KaMii: there slackintosh forums/mailing lists you could post at? [17:58] Tsooi (~scruffy@ti0125a380-0156.bb.online.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:58] indeed. I love the "from the internet" comments. you'de think it was a physical palce people lived [17:58] so i got a postcard from my grandpa the other day, there was a picture of earth on it from space, and it said "Wish you were here" [17:58] NyteOwl: it will be :) [17:58] Okay my last (useful) comment, KaMii, the key is to get the X-Synaptics driver to see the device, keep hacking at it from that angle [17:58] no comment [17:59] sorry, that alst was for another channel [17:59] :P [17:59] ya, i know arfon thats what I think also, i just have this suspiciion the kernel driver is not loading [17:59] so its not with xorg.conf or hal [17:59] i think its before all that [18:00] does the touchpad functions it's just you want to disable tapping.. right? [18:00] nvision_ (~nvision@g225056059.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:00] yes [18:00] Well, KaMii, we didn't fix your problem but, it sure burned up my boring day :) [18:00] haha, ya... mine too [18:01] Isn't it night in Sweeden? [18:01] if i ever do fix it, im going to post it on the Slackintosh boards [18:01] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [18:01] this time of year, its never night [18:01] Post it on Slackwiki [18:01] but i suffer from extreme insomnia... so that sorta sux [18:01] i will put it on there also [18:01] Never night? Good, that way you can see marauding polar bears coming [18:01] the slackintosh wiki is down [18:02] again... no polar bears [18:02] i saw one at the zoo once [18:02] Damn that global warming! [18:02] arfon: you have problems in your past with Polar bears? [18:02] it was cute... then it crapped in the pool.. not so cute anymore [18:02] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430770.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:02] HOW DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT TOY STUFFED POLAR BEAR I HAD!?!?! [18:03] arfon: your webcam was on [18:03] heh [18:03] Well, Guys, it's 5:00 somewhere! I'm going home [18:03] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Quit: Deuces. [18:03] It's 5pm here :) [18:03] 0.00 here [18:03] Later [18:03] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:03] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [18:04] no, 00:01! [18:04] arfon was at work???? hope he works for freedone [18:04] erf, freenode [18:04] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430770.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:05] where is alienBOB? he usually fixes my problems in 2 seconds [18:05] I think you scared him off with this one [18:05] I am doing nice, quiet things [18:05] I can fix the problem in 2 seconds ... hold up the laptop while I load the shotgun [18:05] hehe, noooooo impossible, alienBOB sacres aliens [18:06] haha NyteOwl but noooooooo [18:06] its not that bad it should be shot, just a dumb clicking issue [18:07] Does ANYONE keep tapping on? Wonder why they ever included it in the first place [18:07] if i ever get it fixed... i should write a script called no-tappy and submit it to all the slackintosh sites on the net [18:07] KaMii: you remind me of no you don't [18:07] huh? i dont get it dustybin [18:07] :P [18:07] Guest39975 (~none@modemcable007.21-57-74.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: [18:08] :S maybe this one did scare alienBOB :S [18:08] artv61 (~artv61@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:10] hmm I think I lounged around enough for the day.. time to actually get some work done :( [18:10] or maybe.. in an hour :) [18:11] after you fix my problem wescotte [18:11] ;) [18:11] hah [18:12] I'm on a deadline here! [18:12] me too [18:12] not really but i just wanted to sound important [18:13] heh.. my deadline sorta doesn't exist.. I mean I have to finish this edit by November but I really should have a rough done by the end of the month [18:14] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-195-70.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:14] hello [18:15] NOVEMBER??? you have plenty of time [18:15] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:15] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-153-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] slackware already brings php? [18:16] KaMii: noway.. I need it done ASAP so the composers can score the damn thing and then I can move on to the post effects/color correction.. Then mix the damn sound.. [18:16] Alt_of_Ctrl: yes, slackware ships with php. [18:16] thumbs, how i start it? [18:17] Alt_of_Ctrl: you don't start php. What are you really trying to achieve? [18:17] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:17] Alt_of_Ctrl: you just want to run a script interactively or attached to say apache? [18:17] install phpsysinfo [18:17] but http://localhost/test.php don't show nothing [18:17] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [18:18] Alt_of_Ctrl: is your httpd running? [18:19] yes [18:19] says [18:19] it works [18:19] Alt_of_Ctrl: /etc/httpd/httpd.conf uncomment out the php line.. [18:19] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:19] Alt_of_Ctrl: #Include /etc/httpd/mod_php.conf [18:20] Alt_of_Ctrl: then restart httpd and it should function.. [18:20] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [18:21] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:22] wescotte, i did that [18:22] but http://localhost/test.php [18:22] still shows 404 not found [18:22] Alt_of_Ctrl: What does the error log say, exactly? [18:22] how i see that? [18:24] Alt_of_Ctrl: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DistrosDefaultLayout [18:24] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [18:25] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC984.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [18:27] hummm [18:29] how i see if php is working? [18:32] Alt_of_Ctrl: make a simple phpinfo() page [18:32] Alt_of_Ctrl, put this in index.php < ?php phpinfo() ?> [18:32] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:33] that won't work unless you enable processing of short tags as well [18:33] Skywise: that's not a short tag. [18:33] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:34] a short tag is [18:35] normal tags are [18:35] Alt_of_Ctrl, maybe if you using php, you can add this index.php in DirectoryIndex line /etc/httpd/httpd.conf [18:37] v4nelle (~van@78-48-76.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:39] nachox (~Ignacio@9-99-235-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:41] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [18:44] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [18:47] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [18:47] KaMii: Just got an idea.. download like a Ubuntu CD and see if you can get that to disable tapping.. Might give you some ideas of what to do.. [18:48] not a BIOS option? [18:49] wescotte: ubuntu is a swear word [18:49] and the other day my pappa sent me to my room from the dinner table because i said ubuntu [18:49] A wise man [18:50] mhm [18:51] KaMii: what have you tried to disable tapping? [18:51] I disabled tapping with the synaptics driver. [18:51] Action: adrien suddenly realizes he doesn't have the .fdi files anymore [18:51] thumbs i cant get the driver to load i guess [18:51] brb on the phone [18:52] KaMii: show us what you tried. [18:52] Action: KaMii already did a lot of .fdi files [18:52] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-153-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:52] actually, thanks to pkgtools not removing what it did not add, I still have the .fdi files, only unused [18:53] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.225.66) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:53] KaMii: TapButton1=0 ? [18:53] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-1-103.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:54] adrien: yeah he tried that [18:54] she [18:54] adrien: he's running slackintosh 12.1 on a Apple G4 notebook [18:54] she [18:54] VampX (~VampX@201.218.68.99) left irc: Quit: VampX [18:54] Action: KaMii = girl person [18:54] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.143.97) joined ##slackware. [18:55] KaMii: my mistake [18:55] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-1-103.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:56] you reboot? [18:56] yup [18:56] have a pastebin of your Xorg.0.log? [18:56] yes [18:56] you looked at it [18:57] Action: adrien starts having doubts about his memory [18:57] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:57] hah [18:57] adrien: you seen one Xorg.0.log you've seen them all.. [18:57] after you looked at it you told me to google a howto [18:58] maybe but that was several days ago then [18:58] no [18:58] it was hours ago [18:58] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-1-103.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:58] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:58] ah, 12.1, ok? [18:58] yes [18:58] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-1-103.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:58] I'm really worried about my memory then [18:58] ya, its suppose to get better with age [18:58] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-1-103.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:59] currently, "synaptics" is the driver used for all touchpads (not 100% sure in xorg-server-1.7, but in 1.8, it definitely is, even for other brands) [18:59] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-1-103.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:59] 12.1 has a quite older X however [18:59] i added it, because it didnt come with 12.1 [18:59] KaMii: can I see your Xorg.0.log because I'm sure I haven' t seen it :) [18:59] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-1-103.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:59] built it from source [19:00] which ones? from when? [19:00] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-1-103.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:00] ugh... not sure if i can remember where the link is [19:00] and maybe you don't have a synaptics touchpad but need one that is only for your touchpad-brand (which brand btw? maybe dmesg can tell us) [19:01] I recall having to build a synaptics driver in the slack 12 days.. Slackbuilds.org had something.. I believe.. [19:01] I built one for 12.2 [19:02] I can now set the acceleration, and all, seamlessly. [19:03] Razec (~razec@187.34.20.144) joined ##slackware. [19:03] it's smoother than in windows, I daresay. [19:05] KaMii: what did you "have" before installing synaptics by yourself? [19:05] nothing [19:05] or idk [19:06] thats what im trying to find ot [19:06] what did they use before 12.2 [19:06] touchpad didn't work at all? [19:07] works just fine [19:08] so you only installed the new driver for tapping? [19:08] just cant disable tappy [19:08] yes [19:08] used xorg.conf? [19:08] i installed it so i can disable tappy [19:08] yes tried everything in xorg [19:08] i dont know what to do [19:08] tried synclient? [19:09] it's more ... practical for trying things [19:09] gh0 (~gh0@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:09] synclient requires that driver [19:09] which disnt working [19:09] brb [19:09] oh, right, guess it's too late for my poor little brain [19:10] Nick change: _Lucifer -> Yandertal [19:12] KaMii: you should pastebin a whole Xorg.0.log without the synaptics driver [19:12] Action: adrien has to go to bed, good night [19:12] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.223.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:14] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:21] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.233.214) joined ##slackware. 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[19:44] nothing special with that [19:44] Alt_of_Ctrl: did you get phpinfo() working? [19:44] just rename config file and it will work [19:44] thumbs, yes [19:45] remove I think .new from filename and with default values it will work [19:45] bitlord, but where i put the folder phpsysinfo? [19:45] Beellinda (ems62m@182.0.119.43) joined ##slackware. [19:45] Alt_of_Ctrl: place the phpsysinfo scripts in your docroot. [19:45] Alt_of_Ctrl: in the DocumentRoot [19:45] /var/www/htdocs/phpsysinfo maybe [19:45] bitlord, i have that [19:45] how much memory does slack need at least? [19:45] then rename config file, and do localhost/phpsysinfo [19:46] iceheart: 0 < n <= oo [19:46] bitlord, i did that [19:46] it show me the directory [19:46] and the files [19:46] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [19:46] Alt_of_Ctrl: set a DirectoryIndex then. [19:46] Alt_of_Ctrl, you put index.php in [19:46] what's mean? [19:47] thumbs is faster :D [19:47] iceheart: it depends. [19:47] what? thumbs [19:47] bitlord, put index.php ? [19:47] iceheart: what release of slackware? Will you run X? What DE? [19:47] where? [19:47] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [19:48] Alt_of_Ctrl, open /etc/httpd/httpd.conf and find DirectoryIndex line add index.php in it [19:48] ok [19:48] 13.1 and i need X thumbs [19:48] Alt_of_Ctrl, it have already index.html [19:48] iceheart: what environment do you want to use? fluxbox? xfce? KDE? [19:49] xfce thumbs [19:49] iceheart: then I recommend at least 512 MB of RAM [19:49] Alt_of_Ctrl, then I think you need to restart apache /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd restart [19:49] what about without X? thumbs [19:50] woh3 (~will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] iceheart: without? the kernel would probably consume less than 64 MB [19:52] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [19:53] i see, thanks thumbs :P [19:53] bitlord, tks [19:54] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) joined ##slackware. [19:55] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.233.214) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [19:56] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.233.214) joined ##slackware. [20:00] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:01] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:03] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:07] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:07] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-153-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:58] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:59] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:59] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-76-199.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:00] ph|ber (~cking@c-75-66-7-36.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:02] what do people use for an msn client? [21:03] herbz: i use kopete [21:03] thx [21:03] u guys have a google talk client as well? or u guys don't worry about that stuff? [21:04] herbz: kopete support connect on google talk network [21:04] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: œ¿»Î½ »±²­ [21:05] hm nice, open source as well [21:05] herbz: ;-) [21:07] rirombo (~rirombo@h113.187.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [21:08] pidgin is kinda nice too [21:10] ya, i would go with kopete but it requires KDE [21:10] i run under pekwm [21:10] pidgin, aMSN [21:11] Action: pupit disco! disco! [21:11] amsn i can't get to compile under slack13.1 [21:11] how does a bentley/rolls royce drive by shoot with a partial license plate, on video and the DMV can't do a partial plate search [21:11] too many unknown libraries that i am missing... let me look at pidgin quick [21:11] herbz: i hate amsn [21:12] herbz: :D [21:13] el_lobo-1d-_-b (~Juan@190.25.50.48) joined ##slackware. [21:13] jeev: partial license plate? [21:13] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-153-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:13] its not a synaptics its an ADB Mouse [21:14] wescotte: does that mean anything to you? [21:15] artv61 (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] KaMii: no.. but lemme google a little and see what I can find.. Otherwise try the Ubuntu method to figure out your xorg.conf settings.. :) [21:15] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:15] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-195-70.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:16] off-topic: anybody can help me with a new rule in my spamassassin ? [21:17] i have received many spams with percent (%) symbol and like block this [21:17] pupit, they saw first few chars of the plate [21:17] im pretty sure it's easy to find a car with partial plates, especially when it's a 200k+ car [21:18] Multiple witnesses reported that the suspects fled in a dark colored Rolls Royce or Bentley, though the Sheriff was also talking about it possibly being a Monte Carlo. [21:19] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:19] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [21:20] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-3-233.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] what are you talking about jeev ? [21:22] stinky (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-dxspprmdtztdyntb) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:23] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:23] KaMii: synclient didn't work right? [21:24] KaMii: i think he drank a few beers [21:24] you can mix of a Rolls/Bently for a Monte Carlo? [21:25] jeev, Sheriff? like in good, bad and ugly? [21:28] omg wescotte so I found commands to turn tapping on... but I want the command for off for the ADB mouse [21:29] i just need that command in xorg.conf [21:29] hah.. What's the command to turn it on? [21:29] i dont need anything else [21:29] TPMODE = TAP [21:29] where do you set that? [21:30] pilipo (~pilipo@203.177.147.86) joined ##slackware. [21:30] in xorg.conf [21:30] TPMode = notap [21:30] BAM! [21:30] hope its the right code [21:31] there is also TPMode = drag but I have no idea what that does [21:31] yeah.. I think it's correct [21:31] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [21:31] even says This worked for my iBook G4. Hope this works for you and good luck. [21:31] KaMii: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4722558 <-- hehe and it's a Ubuntu page :) [21:32] i lied, its not in xorg [21:32] its another file [21:32] but im in it now [21:32] yeah I just noticed that.. [21:32] and i see some options [21:32] might be = lock too [21:32] dunno what that does either.. [21:33] right now it has TPMODE = drag [21:33] /etc/pbbuttonsd.conf [21:33] and lower it says NOTAPTYPING = false [21:33] whats notaptyping ? [21:33] is that it? [21:33] maybe quick paste? [21:33] and drag? [21:33] ugh.. there is no quick paste for me [21:33] let me pastbin it for you [21:33] just a sec [21:33] k [21:34] takes a sec I have to do it from differnt computers [21:34] try a man pbbuttonsd.conf [21:36] pastebin.com/2AR6L0B7 [21:36] KaMii: http://pbbuttons.berlios.de/projects/pbbuttonsd/man-pbbuttonsd.cnf.html <-- says notap, tap, drag, and lock are the values.. [21:37] NoTapTyping = [yes | no] (default: no) [21:37] Usually the trackpad would stay in it's current mode if the keyboard was used. With this option set the trackpad would be configured in 'notap-mode' as soon as the first key is hit. This will prevent cursor movement through accidently touching the trackpad while typing. [21:38] ok, well thats not what we want [21:38] or, notap [21:38] huh [21:38] im lost [21:38] you want TPMode = notap [21:39] that other option just doesn't allow accidental movement/tapping of the mouse when you're typing.. I assume it's some sort of lock with a timeout value [21:40] i think that requires a reboot [21:40] because restarting x did nothing [21:40] you have to restart that thingy.. uh [21:41] pbbuttonsd [21:41] skycrash (~sky@187.112.202.110) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:41] you probably have a /etc/rc.d/rc.pbbuttons.d [21:42] restart that.. and it might take affect.. otherwise reboot :) [21:42] KaMii: http://pbbuttons.berlios.de/projects/pbbuttonsd/ <-- webpage for that.. you might find other things useful in the documentation for it [21:42] Razec (~razec@187.34.20.144) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:42] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:42] doesn't seem to be limited to just trackpad stuff.. it's a general "special buttons" thingy.. [21:43] PBButtons is a programm suite to support laptop specific functions and make them available again under Linux. Basically it was developed to support the special hotkeys of an Apple iBook, Powerbook or TiBook but since version 0.5 the design has been changed to support all kind of laptops or notebooks. Since version 0.8.0 support for MacBooks have been added. [21:43] YYAYAYAYAYAAYYYAYAAY IT WORKS!!!!!!!!! [21:43] KaMii: I'll send you my bill :) [21:43] hahaha [21:43] now, why was that NOT on any website? [21:43] it is on a website :) you just weren't on the right one I guess :) [21:44] skycrash (~sky@187.112.202.110) joined ##slackware. [21:44] apparently [21:44] im going to post that on every slackintosh site i can find [21:44] hi all, do you think it's a security risk to change apache's login shell from "bin/false" to "bin/bash" ? [21:44] KaMii: I usually keep a upgrade_instructions.txt file that explains everything I had to do to get certain things working on each machine.. That way when I reinstall the OS I don't go nuts :) [21:45] ya, I do that also wescotte but my notes are always scattered [21:45] Action: KaMii needs a website to post all this [21:45] KaMii: for things like this that are tricky to track down via google [21:45] ;) [21:45] KaMii: google docs.. or blogger or something.. [21:46] KaMii: I just keep it in every home dir on each machine and eventually they find their way to backup DVDs :) [21:46] ohhh, now i understand why people have blogs [21:46] KaMii: yup.. blogs = useful ONLY to the people who create them [21:46] well i dont understand the use of people who blog about what their cat did today..... [21:47] KaMii: the cat digs it though [21:47] hahah, ya right the cat can care less... a dog on the other had.. requires it [21:48] hah [21:48] cats > dogs in my book. Only because dogs require more work [21:49] pizdets (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:23] i'm on a mission to learn how acpi works, inside-out [22:23] heya,folks [22:23] hey MLanden [22:23] lol [22:23] quick on the draw... [22:24] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:24] heya,shonudo....how's the suspend issue going? [22:24] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:24] well, it's not a problem anymore, but i did get interested in learning how acpi works [22:24] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [22:25] shonudo: cool...strange how one issue after resolution can open a new door..good to hear that it's a positive one...;) [22:26] rapid (rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:26] there's no pm-utils on this full install of 12.0; i did compile the kernel w/ acpi; and as far as i can tell, userspace is some magical kingdom that doesn't generate conf or log files [22:26] lol [22:26] ACPI is the suite that manages power configuration right??? [22:26] shonudo: true [22:26] yeah, Zaythan, it's power management [22:27] rapid (rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [22:27] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:28] Razec (~razec@187.34.16.53) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:29] hahah wow u can control everything ive never heard of that much contro in an OS [22:30] what are you playing with, Zaythan? [22:31] and is this your first pass at slackware? 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[22:35] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:35] Zaythan: you know, ubuntu has the same config files under the hood :) [22:35] hahah depends on hom many people i have to talk to in a day [22:36] it would seem like you'd be fixing silly stuff all day long [22:36] and telling people that "start" is where you go to "shut down" [22:36] shonudo: you're confusing helpdesk with administration [22:36] lol [22:36] chipster (~chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [22:36] chipster (~chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Changing host [22:36] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [22:36] perhaps, ananke [22:36] ananke, so i am learning but it seems like ubuntu wants to hide it from u... ubuntu feels alot like windows [22:37] it's all abstractions and GUIs on ubuntu, zaythan [22:37] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.41.171) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:37] although all the stuff in the background is the same [22:37] Zaythan: indeed, its goal is to provide user friendly environment. doesn't change that behind the scenes it's still the same stuff [22:37] yah i manage some network monitoring tools (netIQ) [22:38] if you want to see ubuntu undressed, play around with debian [22:38] ananke but i think that if u hide what ur doing from the user u are taking something away from the user [22:39] agreed Zaythan [22:39] Zaythan: such as hiding 'yo' from 'you' ? :) [22:39] nothing more frustrating than not being able to get around something that is automated [22:39] windows networking wizards come to mind [22:39] i have done that but i like the way slackware handles package better [22:40] Zaythan: it goes both ways. hiding stuff away from the user gives them a chance to focus on something else. [22:40] some people do not care to see what's under the hood to drive a car. in fact, very few do :) [22:42] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.41.171) joined ##slackware. [22:43] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [22:43] Action: troy spanks ananke for being cheeky [22:43] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:44] Nick change: bunnyboi -> jennifur [22:44] pilipo (~pilipo@203.177.147.86) joined ##slackware. [22:46] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:46] troy, did you get wine64 working? 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[22:54] projectchild (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-fboarxqldszvigdf) joined ##slackware. [22:56] I hope Alvin Greene wins. [22:58] byteframe, are you in SC? [22:58] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:59] pizdets (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:59] shonudo, no. [22:59] it's a pretty odd deal, don't you think? [23:00] the guy comes out of nowhere [23:00] Very perplexing. [23:00] ananke, their lack of caring hampers their abiliy to focus on other things i think....for instance how can a lumberjack be productive if he doesnt understand his tools and what hes cutting [23:00] the thing is any democrat would be crushed in the election [23:00] makes the Dems look like a joke [23:00] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [23:00] Skywise, yeah, no dem would do very well [23:00] shonudo yea windows networking gets interesting sometimes [23:01] Action: projectchild is glad. [23:01] "I am a lumberjack and I am okay" [23:01] hahah [23:01] projectchild, that seems about ribght,. [23:01] Zaythan, i can't stand the way windows increasingly gets in the way of networking [23:01] gf just purchased a laptop... it had win7 on it [23:01] notta fan?? [23:01] i couldn't believe the nonsense to get that thing networked [23:02] Zaythan, actually, i found win7 to be pretty good [23:02] i don't flame windows [23:02] i just don't use it [23:02] hahah [23:03] Get the refund. [23:03] thot makes sense... and win7 is more of a vista service pack... you'd be surprised how little they changed [23:03] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [23:03] thot = that* [23:03] lol [23:04] funny article; http://www.junauza.com/2010/07/how-to-make-windows-faster-than-linux.html [23:04] i didn't mean that as "a statement" (a backhanded flame) [23:04] it's just that i don't use it [23:04] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [23:04] it's at work; i use it there [23:05] projectchild: lol [23:05] ^>^ [23:06] actually i do have a slackware question... how well does the x64 verison balance the load across multi cores [23:06] there are not any performance reports out there from what i could find [23:07] goj (~goj@p5488F719.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] you can't get a straight answer about multicore performance [23:07] haha thats true [23:07] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:08] there was just an article on slashdot about it [23:09] http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/07/19/2245232/4-Cores-6-Cores-Do-You-Care?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29 [23:11] frankly, i think you'd need a multicore toolchain in the same way you need a 64bit one [23:11] projectchild, good article [23:11] win95 ftw! [23:13] i like winme [23:13] projectchild, amusing article... lol [23:13] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:14] haha thats funny... [23:14] my windows lags too much man i dont know wtf to do, i even got an ssd [23:14] Time is 8:10pm, computer has been up for 3d 4h 41m 26s [23:14] stupid lagigng crap [23:14] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [23:14] the slashdot post is interesting: maybe once we hit 1.5ghz, it was fast enough and "faster" started to lose meaning [23:14] Mornin' [23:15] ya...but marketing does that...which is why i am curious to see numbers [23:16] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:17] multicores really only make sense in a server environment [23:17] Skywise, i think i would agree with that [23:18] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-108.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] Or for when you have a lot of compiling or rendering to do [23:18] i can see where a dualcore might be a good idea on a desktop... [23:18] dual core would still be plenty [23:18] lol... for the reasons cited by FriedBob [23:19] but other than that [23:19] yeah [23:19] dualcore seems to be more than enough [23:19] haha i figured i was one of those people who had 4 cores and was only using 1 [23:19] ncrypthic (~ncrypthic@118.96.10.181) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:20] thats what goes on most of the time [23:20] I'd like to have quadcore on my desktop, but I tend to have so much open at a time I'd likely be using all of them [23:20] even on my lamp servers [23:20] Zaythan: well, your os will run different apps and processes on different cores. so you will use them [23:20] its mostly single core [23:20] My current systems don't really keep up anymore, but no money to upgrade just yet. [23:20] ncrypthic (~ncrypthic@118.96.11.122) joined ##slackware. [23:20] Zaythan, is it an intel CPU? [23:20] when theres a spike in demand, sometimes they all fire up, but most of the time its just crusing on 1 [23:20] FriedBob, do you feel any need to upgrade? [23:21] seriously, does your box seem slow to you? [23:21] nope amd phenomII x4 810 [23:21] i mean its a 3ghz core with gigs of ram, its prolly even overpowered [23:21] quad core [23:21] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [23:21] shonudo: My laptop lags if I just have a few apps open now, and my desktop runs slow as well, plus it's got some hardware issues I can't track down. [23:22] hmmm... [23:22] pilipo (~pilipo@203.177.147.86) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:22] shonudo: having it randomly shutdown due to hardware issues gets old fast. [23:22] i bet thats your video more then your cpu [23:22] or is your cpu getting pegged? [23:22] Skywise: Yeah, it stays 80+% [23:22] Temp shoots up to 349K or so [23:23] ouch [23:23] My laptop is a 1.5ghz G4 12" PowerBook [23:23] i'd say something isn't right [23:23] i'd agree [23:23] there's got to be something wrong there [23:23] overheating [23:23] something [23:23] ports blocked maybe? [23:23] southbridge, whatever, you're not getting the right performance [23:23] Macirssi, Firefox, Pandora (Air app), Mixero (air app) and it's pegged [23:24] My desktop is an AMD64 3700+ w/ 3 gigs ram [23:24] They are both 5-6 years old now [23:24] why 3gb ram? [23:24] that makes sense. it's all javascript and flashy evil. [23:24] what motherboard is it? [23:24] most you can use under windows [23:25] and most 32bit systems without going to pae [23:25] Skywise: I run win7 on the desktop [23:25] OSX 10.4 on the mactop [23:25] Have to have Windows for work, and I telecommute most of the time [23:25] FriedBob, what mb are you running on the desktop? [23:26] voices (~voices@173-18-62-17.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [23:26] shonudo: I don't remember off hand. It's not here with me. [23:26] running with* [23:26] voices (~voices@173-18-62-17.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:26] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.169.94.149) joined ##slackware. [23:27] I'm not home this week, but am traveling. I have to be in the main office this week, for our PCI audit [23:27] am i right to assume audits are not fun? [23:27] YES! [23:27] Depends. [23:27] just don't say anything until you get your lawyer [23:27] I am enjoying it so far, but I also went to school to be an auditor. [23:28] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.94.149) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:29] When I finish my masters, I plan on getting a job either as an IRS auditor, a forensic accountant for the FBI, or some sort of IT auditor. [23:29] if you're fried already, what are you gonna be after that carreer [23:30] the FBI actually sends alot of their Forensics to another agency [23:30] Azalyn (~junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:30] CIA [23:30] Skywise: Paid. [23:30] i think the tedium can make you crazy [23:31] Naw, it's very detail orianted, but rarely the same thing each day. [23:31] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:31] I've spoken w/ a number of IRS agents and a few FBU accountants over the years [23:31] zaythan1 (~zaythan@ip68-1-71-150.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:31] Azalyn (~junon@modemcable160.184-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:31] if you have an appetite for it [23:32] my eye glaze over [23:33] i dont like fornesics cause its about a million tons o paper work for every command [23:33] i had to deal with some fbi agents on a server that was compromised, they had no skills at all [23:33] zaythan1 (~zaythan@ip68-1-71-150.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:34] that's an interesting observation... [23:34] hrm.... can't open shared object libdns.so but its there [23:34] its in /usr/lib [23:34] all 3 of them [23:34] cause alot o time its not the field agents that do the stuff they have specialist [23:34] i was called in to recover the server and the client had also called the fbi [23:34] Skywise, so in terms of skills, were they actual admins or just the guys that were sent to you with the problem? [23:34] yeah, i they sent specialists [23:35] they'd have trouble making the cut for geek squad [23:35] lol [23:35] lmao [23:35] that's sad [23:35] i basically let them fumble around and then did all their work for them [23:35] you mean they can't fill out a shipping order? [23:35] they coudln't ftp to download the files [23:36] point taken [23:36] mkay... got a linux question here [23:36] hey KaMii, what's up? [23:36] hrm.... can't open shared object libdns.so but its there [23:36] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:36] 3 of the, /usr/lib/ [23:36] KaMii: you only get 1 thing resolved per day.. you have to wait 24 hours [23:36] 00:59 CTCP VERSION reply from Skywise: mIRC v6.16 Khaled Mardam-Bey [23:36] are you installing a package that calls for libsdns.so? [23:36] patetic [23:36] emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [23:36] screw you [23:36] no im trying to run eggdrop [23:37] its already been compiled on my system [23:37] you're making a bot? [23:37] but it wont run [23:37] thats what eggdrop is [23:37] have you done the full config file [23:37] yes [23:37] im remaking it [23:37] KaMii: did you just build it? [23:37] i copied my old .conf file over [23:37] so it all works just fine [23:37] including the parts that say "this won't work unless you comment this out" parts? [23:37] yes i just built it wescotte [23:38] shonudo: its not the .conf file, I have been using this .conf file for months [23:38] KaMii, i'm running an eggdrop on another channel [23:38] i've screwed it up by moving it to another box [23:38] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [23:38] redo the conf [23:38] well a .conf error would not give a libdns error [23:38] Oi vech. Now I remember why I stopped using this router [23:39] i have no idea why you're there [23:39] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-112-188-139.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:39] ive moved them over to different boxes before, never had a problem [23:39] but seriously, this isn't a "linux question" [23:39] it's an eggdrop question [23:39] KaMii: it could.. If you had it using it in the past but now it's no longer installed.. [23:39] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: time to swap machine parts and backup :O [23:39] what do you mean wescotte [23:39] KaMii: eggdrop [23:40] and, again, eggdrop is not slackware specific, or linux specific in terms of a problem [23:40] KaMii: eggdrop's .conf file can contain lots of external libs/scripts/mods etc that may not be installed on your machine but shouldn't hinder you from building your bot [23:40] it's eggdrop specific [23:40] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:40] its not the .conf file [23:40] i checked it out [23:40] everything is there that should be there [23:40] no scripts called for that dont exist etc [23:41] KaMii: you have something in your .conf that is requiring it to use this libdns which isn't properly linked/installed or something.. [23:41] its a very basic bot, does not have much extra stuff [23:41] sopmething SO FUCKING loud just took off from burbank airport [23:41] what package does libdns come in [23:41] i heard car alarms go off and i'm like 7 miles away [23:42] i thought a bomb had gone off [23:42] KaMii, start here: http://www.r10.net/ircd-hosting-amp-shell-hosting/180306-eggdrop-libdns-so-hatasi.html [23:42] KaMii: shrug.. It's probably it's own package in slack [23:42] and i'm going back to the FBI conversation [23:42] haha w/b [23:42] i looked, couldnt find anything on google that would tell me what package its in [23:42] hey, anyone ever had a cd burner freak out like this? it's in a laptop.. this is the dmesg http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/NqViNM69.html [23:43] shonudo: I almost applied for an FBI job recently, but didn't want to move to Cali for it [23:43] man, a job in this market... [23:43] don't know i would pass it up [23:43] burned something in k3b, got all the data, went to close the session and it claimed there was no usable medium in the drive, then refused to detect anything in there (I tried another cd).. I don't even see a write track [23:43] dude shonudo before you paste html links, make sure its in english [23:43] shonudo: I am already employeed [23:43] raela: yup...an early scsi1 I had connected on freebsd [23:44] the aim of the post is that it's an eggdrop problem, and eggdrop has it's forums, etc [23:44] They also have a channel here IIRC [23:44] indeed [23:44] i know that [23:44] and i STILL say it's your conf [23:44] but the issue is with a libdns file [23:44] MLanden: I've burned cds before [23:44] the issue is eggdrop [23:44] otherwise i would have gone into #eggdrop [23:44] if I go in there and talk about libdns they will tell me to come here [23:44] bah [23:45] GTS man GTS [23:45] doubt it... no one at eggdrop ever tells anyone to come here... they think there's a cover charge here [23:45] you must be thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis tall to ride the ##slackware [23:46] shonudo: You mean there isn't? Crap, I hope I get a refund then... [23:46] heh [23:46] FriedBob: donations are super appreciated and go to dev/op beer funds [23:46] figabo (~figabo@201.164.189.71) joined ##slackware. [23:46] so how do u get involved? [23:46] Well, this bowl is done and I have to be at work early, so I think I am gonna turn in [23:47] well no scripts are being loaded at all in that .conf file because I have them all commented out [23:47] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:47] KaMii, i'm not being a jerk about this, but i've built (and broken) more eggdrop bots than i can count, and i'm telling you to start from scratch -- including the conf [23:47] even if it's a copy-over [23:47] good night, FriedBob [23:47] night FriedBob [23:47] raela: cd-r or cd-rw? [23:48] gn FriedBob [23:49] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-108.dial.telus.net) left ##slackware. [23:49] maybe its a slackintosh issue, and it wont port over [23:49] MLanden: cd-r [23:49] but it should because it worked on darwin-ports [23:49] pretty sure at least [23:49] I bought the cheap sony stuff [23:49] er yeah just cd-r [23:51] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Quit: http://blog.KeepingYouHonest.net && http://yashunda.com [23:52] raela: ok...same error when trying to burn at a slower speed? [23:53] MLanden: that's not even trying to burn it.. it spams dmesg now when I stick the disc in. k3b won't even detect the cd. when I got it to burn, I set to 16x, but it got an I/O error which was ignored and it claimed to finish the burn.. choked when it went to finish the cd [23:54] Zaythan (~zaythan@ip68-1-71-150.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: [23:56] you can get eggdrop to syntax check your conf file [23:57] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:57] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:59] ok.. itsd looking for libdns.so.32 [23:59] when I have libdns.so.38 [23:59] its not a .conf file error [00:00] --- Tue Jul 20 2010