[00:00] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:01] M1ck3y, awesome...good to hear you had a good experience [00:01] jasper_carrot (~sixx@212.183.140.41) joined ##slackware. [00:01] xdoctor (~Joseph@201.79.243.62) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:07] hayaza (~damengkje@125.166.186.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [00:09] Delahunt (~robert@fd124-203.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [00:11] omg it works [00:12] Delahunt, what? [00:12] Action: Delahunt recompiled cryptsetup in slackware 13.1 and upgraded to rworkman's xfce and IT WORKED :) [00:12] crypto devices auto-mount in xfce [00:12] i was hanging onto 13.0 because of that breaking [00:12] but NO MORE! :) [00:13] lol...cool [00:18] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-155.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [00:22] Alabarda (~david@189.11.214.34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:25] hayaza (~damengkje@125.163.9.152) joined ##slackware. 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[00:51] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:55] khider (~khider@CPE00226b4dc6c8-CM001868522c6c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [00:56] Greetings Slackers I installed Slackware on my laptop but did not hook in the ethernet cable during install. So now my laptop does not detect ethernet. A slack veteran suggested I re-install with the ethernet cable attached. I am a newb, so I want to at least get the internet working for the thing. Any thoughts? [00:57] did you finish the network settings on install [00:58] alisonken1home: No [00:58] that's probably why network isn't working [00:58] however - install wicd from the extra/ directory on the dvd would probably help [00:59] alisonken1home: How would I do that? [00:59] khider, as root run pkgtool, go to setup->netconfig [00:59] mount the dvd, cd into the extra/wicd directory, then 'installpkg wicd*.txz [01:00] remember to log into your admin (root) account before running that command [01:00] What does it mean by host name? [01:01] It is asking for host name, which threw me off [01:01] what you call yourself [01:01] you pick a name for your computer and a netwrok - like this machine I'm on i've named 'ken_home" and used the network 'kens.network' [01:01] And domain name? [01:02] since it's probably going to change, just pick one like I did [01:02] I've called my home domain "kens.network' since I don't expect any machines here to be public [01:03] your machine will be hostname.domainname [01:03] host.domain.name [01:05] I ran the setip and it booted me back to the command prompt, I did not notice any install procedure, but it did say I am configured for dhcp...is there a command I should be running? [01:06] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Quit: Necrosporus [01:06] should be it for the wired connection [01:06] is the cable plugged in? [01:06] alisonken1home: Yes, the cable is plugged in [01:06] Aidar-Nagato (admin@77.79.178.77.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [01:06] ok - type "ifconfig" and see if you have eth0 listed [01:07] khider, dhcpcd eth0 [01:07] it isn't enough, the bootup stuff didn't get run since he didn't boot with all this setup [01:07] ok then type "/etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 start" [01:08] ok then type "/etc/rc.d/rc.inet1" rather [01:08] :o ken, you centos user [01:08] ok - rebooting probably wouldn't hurt [01:08] jeev, nope - noc uses debian :) [01:08] check to see if rc.inet1 is executable before restarting [01:08] what you suggest is good alison. running the rc.d script [01:08] ken, sad. [01:08] alisonken1home: done [01:09] well, the company's been there for 10 years, so I don't have a lot of input on that yet :) [01:09] your interace should be up then [01:09] i would've changed their minds in 10 minutes [01:09] jeev, don't think so :) [01:09] whooaaaaaaaaaaahhh the internet works! [01:09] Yaaay! [01:10] Thanks! [01:10] np [01:10] still suggest you install wicd so you can work with wireless eaiser [01:10] easier [01:10] I chose Slackware because i want to learn more abbbout linux and figured this is the way to go [01:10] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-65.fpscc.den.wayport.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:10] Also, I want a stable system [01:10] start reading the slackbook [01:11] ken, i can make anything happen in 10 minutes when it comes to convincing [01:11] jeev: I think even you would have a problem getting them to change >3K servers and 10 years of configuration scripts in 10 minutes [01:12] taopunk_m (~taopunk@166.137.15.205) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:13] alisonken1home, i can do that in 9. [01:13] Are there drivers for Broadcom BCM4312.11a/b/g (rev 02) err, Slackbuilds? (I ran a search and nothing turned up in slackbuilds.org) [01:13] I could have searched wrong [01:13] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [01:13] drivers? [01:13] slackbuilds.org is for 3rd party - broadcom should be part of the kernel [01:13] you've gotta look up in the kernel [01:14] depending on the exact chip b43 might support it, if not, the STA driver does [01:14] b43 has partial 4312 support [01:14] i can [01:14] Ahhhh, broadcom-sta, I should have looked for that [01:14] khider, like I said - install wicd and see if it works [01:14] i can't wait until they integrate broadcom into the kernel [01:15] alisonken1home: From the disk? [01:15] from extra/wicd on the disk [01:15] khider, what is the exact pci-id? [01:15] unless it's wicd 1.6 - then download wicd 1.7 [01:17] har (~harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:18] mancha: What is pci-id? [01:19] a number like 14e4:abcd [01:19] lspci -n should give it to you [01:19] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:21] mancha: There are many listed here... [01:21] yes but only one starts 14e4: [01:21] that is the one i want [01:22] 14e4:4312 and 14e4:1693 [01:22] (rev 02) [01:22] for both [01:22] 4:/usr/src/linux$ grep -ri BCM43 Documentation/ [01:22] Documentation/laptops/acer-wmi.txt:e.g. With the BCM4318 on the Acer Aspire 5020 series: [01:23] OK, khider, b43 will only support "g" on your card [01:23] mancha: What can i do to get it to support more? [01:23] ^^ [01:23] use the proprietary STA driver [01:24] b43 is the open source (non-broadcom) driver [01:24] taopunk_m (~taopunk@166.137.15.205) joined ##slackware. [01:24] It's doubtful you will need anything other than g though. [01:24] mancha: The next puter I get should be a Lemote [01:24] mancha: To do it Stallman styles [01:25] the other 14e4, the 1693 is your gigabit ethernet port [01:25] mancha: Ahh, thanks [01:25] sunzu (~sunzu@pD9ED3F67.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [01:26] it is also a broadcom device, broadcom netlink gigabit or summits. [01:26] mancha: I think I want as many letters supported as possible when I go to places with wireless signals, I want to grab as many as possible [01:26] mancha: I have had experiences where places have wifi, but i could not find the signal [01:27] then go here and knock yourself out: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php [01:27] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.42.93) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [01:28] mancha: Why did you say G should be sufficent (I am a newb) [01:28] i didn't say that. though i agree it is unlikely you'll find many A or B routers these days. [01:30] hayaza (~damengkje@125.163.9.152) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:30] mancha: So if I use the proprietary driver, there is no Slackbuild for it. I cannot install anything that is not a slackbuild--my Linux Kung fu is 'baby' [01:30] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-3-236.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:31] (Before white belt, just shit smears on white belt) [01:31] the STA driver comes with an installer. have you read any of their docs? [01:31] the best way to get your white belt is to start reading. [01:32] the web site i gave you has a file called README.txt it's not a joke, do READ it [01:33] MrJackson (Mr@rm2348361283.main.ad.rit.edu) left irc: Quit: Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug. [01:33] heh, you're talking to somebody used the Winblows way of doing something. Click little icon, and 'install'. I will read [01:34] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:36] ercula (~ercula@174-20-111-177.mpls.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:36] ok, i just put "sta" in the slackbuild search and got broadcom-sta as 4th and 5th hits [01:36] not sure how you looked but not well enough :) [01:37] mancha: So that is the proprietary one? [01:37] that site also has readme's [01:37] hayaza (~damengkje@125.163.9.152) joined ##slackware. [01:37] Bl0tt0 (~Bl0tt0@fsf/member/bl0tt0) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [01:37] jrodger (~jrodger@27.32.19.10) joined ##slackware. [01:37] ok, handholding time is over [01:38] mancha: Too much excrement on it : - O [01:38] mancha: But thanks, I'll take it from here [01:41] Oh, how do I find out what packages the 13.1 DVD installed so I do not install twice? [01:41] Like programs [01:41] khider: look in /var/log/packages/* [01:42] gh (gh@unaffiliated/gh) left ##slackware. [01:42] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [01:44] BP{k}: Ahh, thanks./..had to use Thunar (pathetic, I know) [01:54] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:54] hayaza (~damengkje@125.163.9.152) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:57] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:57] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. 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[02:25] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:26] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:27] slink (copy@node-43.blackcore.net) joined ##slackware. [02:28] i have an issue with reading permissions from 'ls' [02:28] -rw-rw-r-T 1 root root 1096767 2010-01-28 09:27 reflector.zip [02:28] what does the 'T' stand for? [02:28] the mode is 1664 [02:29] T is for Trouble [02:29] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:29] sure it's not little t? [02:29] i am sure [02:29] i mean i pasted it [02:29] not typed it [02:30] little t means anyone can rw though only root and owner can delete [02:31] yeah i know that [02:31] like /tmp [02:31] hmm [02:31] i don't know if samba did it, or when i had it mounted under windows with some third party ext2fs driver [02:31] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [02:31] the 1 in 1664 means sticky [02:32] yeah [02:32] i saw something about sticky in there, wasn't sure what it meant though [02:32] i just found it heh [02:32] brb [02:32] For an ordinary file, "t" represents the "sticky" or "text" bit. A capital "T" (no underlying execute bit) is meaningless- no effect on the file at all (but see the Samba notes later) [02:32] http://aplawrence.com/Basics/perms.html [02:33] i see [02:33] chmod +x reflector.zip [02:33] -rwxrwxr-t 1 root root 1096767 2010-01-28 09:27 reflector.zip [02:34] -x = -rw-rw-r-T 1 root root 1096767 2010-01-28 09:27 reflector.zip [02:34] you helped me out, thanks [02:34] so it is samba related [02:34] why is it meaningless? [02:35] that is just quoted from the site. [02:35] i will have to read [02:35] yeah from my test here t/T both mean sticky, t is used when it is covering a +x on world though [02:35] yeah [02:36] again thanks [02:36] my old fileserver died so i had it in a windows machine for quite sometime, and i recently rebuilt my nat server so i made it into a fs too [02:36] I want to submit gthumb and murrine gtk engine to slackbuilds.org, but they are built from git snapshots since release tarballs don't work or don't exist. Can anyone host my git snapshots? [02:37] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.178.77.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:37] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:37] read "Other Systems" on the link I posted [02:38] hayaza (~damengkje@125.163.32.43) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:38] Anybody? [02:39] mrpwnage seems all very hackish! :/ [02:41] but yes, in that sense i see what they meant with meaningless [02:41] taopunk_m (~taopunk@166.137.15.205) left irc: Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi [02:42] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-141.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:43] yes, to us though used as medium for windows shares if I understand it correctly [02:43] compatibility medium [02:44] maybe they should have said "mean something else" and not "meaningless" [02:44] heh yes [02:44] Nick change: mrpwnage -> Anybody [02:44] crocket: no [02:44] Nick change: Anybody -> mrpwnage [02:44] mrpwnage : That's not funny [02:46] hayaza (~damengkje@118.96.234.200) joined ##slackware. [02:51] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. 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[04:12] gslapt-get is really a awful peice of software [04:14] (so why do you use it?) [04:14] Prefect (Prefect@CPE0050ba42fad2-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:14] I don't I just tested it to [04:14] i use slackroll mostly [04:15] crocket: take a look at mesa.SlackBuild [04:15] heheh :-) [04:15] Prefect (Prefect@CPE0050ba42fad2-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [04:17] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [04:20] M1ck3y (~Jon@c-68-40-206-140.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:20] v4nelle (~van@79.107.216.94) joined ##slackware. [04:23] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:23] M1ck3y (Jon@c-68-40-206-140.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [04:29] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:30] Bl0tt0 (~Bl0tt0@fsf/member/bl0tt0) joined ##slackware. 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[04:54] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [04:54] v4nelle (~van@79.107.216.94) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:55] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Client Quit [04:57] Say, did progress reach the point when you can watch youtube hd in fullscreen without lags? [04:57] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [04:57] In linux [04:58] Hell, at least 480p [05:00] use minitube, then yes :) [05:00] in browser.... [05:02] sleekslack (~umislack@58.64.95.214) joined ##slackware. [05:02] cypherpunko (~yogini@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:02] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:02] Minitube. There's life outside the browser. Their site says it's a client :\ [05:02] peacenik (~cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:02] so? [05:03] crocket: it's in slackware [05:03] ah [05:04] cypherpunko (~yogini@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [05:04] sunzu (~sunzu@pD9ED3F67.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [05:04] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-162-7-244.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:06] pprkut: I was asking if it can work in browser. W/o browser I can use youtube-dl, vlc and a whole lot of other options [05:06] adrien : I don't know why you recommended reading mesa.SlackBuild. [05:06] It's a usual piece of slackbuild. [05:06] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-162-4-15.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [05:07] johndee: well, you're question was whether you can watch youtube hd in fullscreen without lags. And I told you it's possible, with minitube [05:07] there's no word of browser there [05:07] pprkut: Hehe. Makes sense [05:08] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [05:08] v4nelle (~van@79.107.216.94) joined ##slackware. [05:09] guys amarok 2.3.0 on slackware 13.0 can see ipods? [05:09] 13.1* [05:10] I though youtube implies browser. Using 3rd party software is a clutch [05:10] thought* [05:10] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [05:15] gammalyrae (~abell@athedsl-193005.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: qwe [05:15] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:18] v4nelle (~van@79.107.216.94) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:20] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-133-166.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:25] hayaza (~damengkje@125.163.39.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:26] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: >_< PEBKAC, ID-10-T clicked the X ^_^ [05:26] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.254) joined ##slackware. [05:28] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[05:53] Jdif (~Jdif@mon75-3-82-67-194-134.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [05:54] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@168-103-60-20.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:03] Herman (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [06:11] v4nelle (~van@79.107.216.94) joined ##slackware. [06:15] xxcv : When does the error occur? [06:17] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:18] it does not occur [06:18] because i have to patch gcc and then manually call autoreconf [06:19] xxcv : ??? [06:19] no problems after i use the 2.64 version of it and load the path before that [06:19] crocket i fixed it [06:20] It's a workaround. [06:20] Lowering the version doesn't seem like a fix. [06:21] no i didn't lower the version either [06:22] well actually i did but i put it in my users dir [06:22] I have autoconf 2.65 [06:22] configure.ac? [06:22] temporary [06:22] What program does the error occur with? [06:22] no i installed the 2.64 in my users dir and then changed the environment path [06:23] stdc++ [06:23] stdc++ [06:23] hayaza (~damengkje@125.163.5.41) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:23] it does not occur [06:23] i made it occur [06:23] huh? [06:23] 2.65 is installed by default. [06:23] because i patched the source code and needed to reconfigure [06:23] hmm [06:23] ok stop going in loops lol [06:24] If you didn't patch the source code, would 2.65 do? [06:24] well it nobody never autoreconf that error wont even happen [06:24] that's well know gcc issue [06:25] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-62-3.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:29] hayaza (~damengkje@125.166.186.231) joined ##slackware. [06:29] Syllopsium1 (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. 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[07:20] adrien : yes I did [07:20] I rather skimmed it [07:21] xxcv (~abc@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [07:21] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.123.71.153) joined ##slackware. [07:22] adrien : what do you want to talk about this? [07:23] bellman (~bellman@core.routed.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [07:24] mayeb I misremembered but there should be one package using git to checkout the sources [07:24] s/package/slackbuild/ [07:24] for those of you on 13.1 i have compiled sword project [07:24] bibletime coming next [07:25] bellman (~bellman@core.routed.com) joined ##slackware. [07:25] Coolmax (~mateusz@ip-94-42-51-153.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:27] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.123.71.153) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:28] adrien : Does the slackbuild itself download sources from git? [07:30] telperion (~Adium@190.156.36.117) joined ##slackware. [07:30] telperion (Adium@190.156.36.117) left ##slackware. [07:31] iirc, yes, it had a pretty bad way of doing it , maybe it was only in -current [07:31] I wonder if slackbuilds.org would accept slackbuilds that download git source codes. [07:33] crocket, no. [07:34] crocket, you must download git yourself, gzip it as appname-gitYYYYMMDD.tar. and host it somewhere *relaible* [07:34] reliable even [07:35] bellman (~bellman@core.routed.com) left irc: Quit: routing error [07:35] bellman (~bellman@core.routed.com) joined ##slackware. [07:39] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:40] hayaza (~damengkje@125.166.173.99) joined ##slackware. [07:42] ftr, it's using git in source/x/mesa/get-mesa.sh [07:43] It's not called in mesa.SlackBuild. [07:43] v4nelle (~van@79.107.216.94) joined ##slackware. [07:43] guys amarok on 13.1 works with ipods? [07:43] Why don't you try? [07:44] i cant find section about mp3 players,like older versions [07:45] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.179.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:45] crocket (~orangepie@121.168.91.143) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:46] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [07:46] Roin (~florian@p5B2BFCF3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya all [07:47] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.160.71) joined ##slackware. [07:51] v4nelle, iPod is wrong [07:54] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [08:01] princeigor (~user@213.149.138.60) joined ##slackware. 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[08:52] thanks for the tip, sorted the lilo message, cheers [08:52] asarch (~asarch@187.132.135.67) joined ##slackware. [08:53] princeigor, change resolution? if in X, try xrandr. [08:54] jrodger, sure :) [08:55] thrice`: have a great day,I guess is summer there? [08:56] James____ (~benjsh@h92n5-m-sp-gr1.ias.bredband.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:56] hi in slackware 13.1 i got a problem that dhcpcd keeps overwriting my /etc/resolv.conf i set in dhcpcd.conf DHCPCD_ARGS="-C resolv.conf" but it still does it [08:57] Herman (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: akryl är typ plugnplay och olja är typ DOS [08:57] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [08:57] James____: see /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf, set the variable DHCP_KEEPRESOLV[X]="yes" [08:58] actually, search for "KEEPRESOLV" in that file, it's in the commands [08:58] comments* [09:04] jrodger (~jrodger@27.32.19.10) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:04] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:05] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-133-166.mel.connect.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:06] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [09:08] princeigor, this is a public channel, please do not pm. [09:08] ok [09:09] princeigor, install guest additions and you will get higher resolutions available. [09:09] how to install [09:09] xsamurai (~munki@unaffiliated/xsamurai) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:09] give me the someone site for info [09:10] http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html [09:10] ok tnx [09:10] look for guest additions [09:10] :) [09:10] James____ (~benjsh@h92n5-m-sp-gr1.ias.bredband.telia.com) left irc: [09:11] also: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/system/virtualbox-ose-addons/ [09:11] tnx also:) [09:12] dive, ah, true. although vbox provides a virtual cdrom with the additions that you can mount and install inside the vm. [09:12] ah nice. Didn't know about that. [09:15] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [09:19] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:19] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [09:21] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.230.192) joined ##slackware. [09:22] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:26] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [09:30] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [09:31] asarch (~asarch@187.132.135.67) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:31] sbs (~mfd@CPE001ee57a9930-CM001a6683085e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Disconnected by services [09:31] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [09:32] mfd_ (~mfd@CPE001ee57a9930-CM001a6683085e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [09:32] I presume I can take apm out of the kernel, it shouldn't be used, right? [09:33] if your machines isnt 10 yo, definitely [09:33] :-) [09:37] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:38] can I take out the pci bus if i'm on a core2duo laptop with pci-express? [09:39] meh, no, I can't X-) [09:40] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.230.192) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:41] I guess I don't have hypertransport on intel... [09:41] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-169.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:41] Action: slava_dp takes out the isa bus [09:42] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware ("take care..."). [09:43] bgeddy (~bgeddy@91.84.218.129) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:44] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:48] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:51] jjholt (~root@cblmdm72-240-21-44.buckeyecom.net) joined ##slackware. [09:53] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [09:53] Todays I am attracted by the word, UNIX. [09:55] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:55] slava_dp: mind if i msg you? [09:55] mrpwnage, ok [09:56] hayalci (~gokdeniz@tassadar.ceng.metu.edu.tr) joined ##slackware. [09:57] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [09:57] Hi there. I have set up a slackware mirror. Despite 5-6 e-mails that I have sent to mirrors@s.o and info@s.o, the mirror is still not listed on the web [09:57] anyone from the slackware team care to lend a hand ? [09:58] I have sent another e-mail moments ago [09:59] hayalci, give them time. they also do checks on your mirror. as well as the just releases 13.1 version, they were a little busy [10:00] I have sent 5-6 e-mails on a period of 10 MONTHS [10:00] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-65.fpscc.den.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [10:00] hayalci, s.o meaning slackware.org? that's not exactly the right server. [10:00] sorry, I sent e-mails to slackware.com [10:01] dunno. maybe they think you are spam ;) [10:03] :) [10:04] What makes the situation worse is, the only server listed for my country has long been replaced by a linkspam web page. [10:04] personally, I setup a mirror, then let people test it out before emailing the slackware team [10:04] Cr1kk4 (~alpha@93-45-99-72.ip101.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [10:04] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:04] alisonken1home: Yes I always have the mirrors tested before applying to be listed, but the slackware mirror is up and running for *years* [10:06] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [10:06] sunzu (~sunzu@pD9ED3F67.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:06] alphad64 (~alphad64@41.66.6.11) joined ##slackware. [10:07] hayalci: send that mail to volkerdi@ instead and explain the linkspam issue too. The mirrors@ maintainer has been awol for a while [10:08] rworkman: thanks for the help [10:08] I'm writing to him now [10:08] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [10:08] Hi. Does anyone here background their processes? [10:09] riza, I use screen. but ^Z sometimes too. [10:09] Reason I ask is.. cause if you have a progrma that ran in the background but you logged out and then back in.. it wouldn't be listed in jobs anymore. So how would you find this program to kill it if it isn't shown in jobs? [10:10] doesn't it die? [10:10] it should die afaik. [10:10] unless you ran it with nohup or summit. [10:10] harlekin_ (~harlekin@p57B7E0C6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:10] It doesn't if it's a process like mysql. [10:10] Cr1kk4 (~alpha@93-45-99-72.ip101.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:11] ps x # will show all processes for your user [10:11] ps huh.. [10:12] josemanuel (~josemanue@168.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [10:13] ps -U user -u user u is better [10:13] will show everything run by just the user and in 'user' format [10:13] True. [10:13] But why the need for -U and -u? [10:13] Why not just -u? [10:13] motzi (~AxBVGDEYO@bl4-180-245.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:15] ahm there was supposed to be a or between them [10:15] i meant to say [10:15] -U user (or -u user) [10:15] -U is for real use id [10:16] while -u is for effective user id [10:16] Oh. [10:16] Yikes. [10:16] ps x appears to work too :D [10:16] ps ax is another one [10:17] axu gives every process bsd-style [10:17] I'm curious as to how significant using backgrounding / foregrounding is in Linux administration. [10:17] It spends an entire chapter on process and back/foregrounding. [10:17] [a.k.a bsd-syntax] and axms gives threads info [10:18] depends on what the program is supposed to do whether or not it should be backgrounded [10:18] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [10:18] well you should be familiar with it, but it's mostly the shell, than linux in general. take a different shell, have different job control options [10:18] It is backgrounded, then you logged out and back in. It isn't shown in jobs anymore. So find this program and kill it! [10:18] :D [10:18] does the chapter go into that aspect? or is it just how backgrounding workds [10:19] alisonken1home, oh generally how backgrounding works. [10:19] ah [10:19] larnin' stuff [10:19] ;_; Yep! Still larning. [10:20] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:21] sunzu (~sunzu@pD9ED3F67.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:23] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [10:24] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:27] Razec (~razec@187.34.21.20) joined ##slackware. [10:28] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:32] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-423378.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:36] aaarnt (~arnt@host-252.249.188.200.fns.freefone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:36] MrJackson (Mr@rm2348361283.main.ad.rit.edu) left irc: Quit: Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug. 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[11:05] cypherpunko (yogini@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left ##slackware. [11:07] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:07] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:11] dartmouth (~dartmouth@72.95.97.163) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:14] jlarrew (~WallRat00@75.133.29.111) joined ##slackware. [11:15] nachox (~Ignacio@201.216.213.17) joined ##slackware. [11:15] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:23] dartmouth (~dartmouth@72.95.97.163) joined ##slackware. [11:25] xdoctor (~Joseph@201.79.243.62) joined ##slackware. [11:27] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:32] anyone doing pxe on 13.1? [11:34] what's the question? [11:34] Action: slava_dp has a pxe server on 13.1 that serves 13.0 at the moment [11:35] just wondering how easy it is to setup. [11:35] can't build the sdl_gfx packege on slackware 13.1. What should i do to get this working on my amd64 system? [11:35] about the same as 12.0/12.1 was to setup [11:35] paste some error :> [11:36] x-ip (~x-ip@host29.200-82-63.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [11:37] ok [11:38] Grifulkin (~Ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:39] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:40] aaah found a package on slacky.eu thanx anyway. [11:41] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [11:41] Action: nachox bows [11:41] harlekin_, well, that's not ideal (who knows if it's a good package), nor will it teach you anything :) up to you, though [11:41] jgeboski (james@97.72.86.194) left ##slackware. [11:41] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [11:41] Nick2 (~pirch@cpe-98-15-197-55.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:41] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-10.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [11:42] Linux will never be as secure as OpenBSD for political, marketing and technical reasons. I don't care how fast something is : if it comes at the cost of stability and security it is stupid. Linux is both more insecure and less stable than OpenBSD and is therefore stupid. [11:42] linux is for bitches and dumb ones at that [11:42] nachox, good timing :> [11:43] wooot [11:43] XD [11:43] lol [11:43] Nick2, is anything wrong? youre free not to use linux [11:43] Excuse me while I take my Panzer tank for a ride over, the Communist Jew, Richard Stallman's legs and then proceed to throw him in a high convective glass oven based on the second law of thermodynamics [11:43] sounds like someone has a complex [11:43] ##slackware: mode change '+o nachox' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [11:43] i think its a bot [11:43] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*.hvc.res.rr.com' by nachox!~Ignacio@201.216.213.17 [11:43] Nick2 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned [11:43] nachox, he comes around once a week or so, and gets a funny ban message from rworkman [11:43] troll [11:44] XD [11:45] just what i needed, a pm from him ... repeating the message [11:45] he wants to be sure you understand :) [11:46] nachox do you understand that linux sucks?? [11:46] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [11:47] mancha, yes, and that its an os used only by dumb loser bitch** [11:47] heh [11:47] but hey, i dont mind being a loser so... [11:47] what the hell why is it working now [11:47] sdl_gfx from the maintainers site works like a charm [11:47] strange [11:47] ty, nachox [11:48] it must be hard for all those linux-haters to see how linux exploded into an OS with a gigantic user base [11:48] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [11:49] i love linux all that flavours [11:49] i couldnt help it, i had to anwer him [11:49] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Quit: Smoke my bones [11:49] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:49] and its free and open source [11:50] smoke my bones? [11:50] nachox, is it an actual person or bot? [11:50] not sure [11:50] aww you fed the troll, that was nice :) [11:50] mention of panzer makes me think human [11:50] alienBOB (~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [11:50] it's probably a bot [11:50] No [11:50] Just an idiot [11:51] frk (~jcn@189.58.218.238.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:53] Dominian, around? [11:54] alienBOB: hey Eric :) how are you? [11:54] Mul_Tsafe (~nicoolo@72.252.151.210) joined ##slackware. [11:55] what is this about [11:55] i kicked a guy called nick2 [11:55] after that he wrote some things in a pm i should not paste here [11:56] no silly [11:56] oh.. /me cries :-) [11:56] slackware [11:57] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-65.fpscc.den.wayport.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:57] Go read about it Mul_Tsafe [11:57] no [11:58] :O [11:58] This is not the "tell me all about Slackware, I am too lazy to read about it first" channel [11:58] Action: Mul_Tsafe slaps alienBOB around a bit with a large trout [11:58] shush [11:58] Ah, a first-time IRC user... [11:59] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.254) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:59] ./mode ##slackware +o alienBOB [11:59] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:59] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:59] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [11:59] You want something Mul_Tsafe? [11:59] Mul_Tsafe, is there anything i can help you with? [11:59] ##slackware: mode change '+o rworkman' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [11:59] Action: rworkman felt left out [11:59] haha [12:00] i sense a disturbance in the force [12:00] im blending in [12:00] Not successfully [12:00] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:00] rworkman, nick2 came back, and just got banned again [12:00] heh [12:00] Moron. [12:00] He usually comes in as "puffy" or some variant thereof [12:00] He continued in #gnu with the exact same sentences [12:01] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:01] who? [12:02] We didn't tell you? [12:02] marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) joined ##slackware. [12:02] rworkman [12:02] i will ban him every time i see him here without warnings. I cant stand fanatics [12:02] who is puffy? [12:02] nachox: yes, good move [12:02] is there a way to patch my kernel or bootloader to play a video with audio during boot instead of the scrolling text? (i want my slack to play "I'm going slightly mad" by queen during boot) [12:02] You would you care Mul_Tsafe [12:02] Nick change: Mul_Tsafe -> puffy [12:02] Syllopsium1 (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:02] thats my second nick [12:02] Nick change: puffy -> Mul_Tsafe [12:02] Bl0tt0 (Bl0tt0@fsf/member/bl0tt0) left ##slackware. [12:03] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [12:03] hmm [12:04] should i op up too ? ' [12:04] Try [12:04] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [12:04] but not in here, it'd have to be ##slackwore [12:04] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNBWf54RvsI [12:04] ##slackware: mode change '-o rworkman' by rworkman!3356@about/slackware/rworkman [12:05] did holland win [12:05] ##slackware: mode change '-o nachox' by nachox!~Ignacio@201.216.213.17 [12:05] Yes, but I don't care [12:06] i found out what the problem was with rc.mythbackend not starting up on boot time [12:06] Sushiyant (~hamed@unaffiliated/sushiyant) joined ##slackware. [12:06] cpuobsessed (~tim@adsl-074-183-121-238.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:06] dustybin: what was it ? [12:06] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:06] how i cam make vpn script to wicd [12:06] trhodes: i needed to add this line in the rc.M file [12:06] declare -x MYTHCONFDIR=/home/mythtv [12:08] dustybin: good thing it was a relatively easy fix :) [12:08] aye up yes :D [12:08] my next mission is getting slackware on my joggler [12:09] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:09] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) joined ##slackware. [12:10] Nick change: Mul_Tsafe -> MAATCIBEARB [12:11] for the first time in quite a while i am impressed with a linux distro [12:12] which one? :> [12:12] opensuse [12:12] Action: nachox winks [12:12] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [12:13] slackware 13.1 [12:13] of course [12:13] harlekin_ (~harlekin@p57B7E0C6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:13] been using fedora 13 for the last two months [12:14] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [12:15] flrichar (~toril@gfp.geexology.org) left irc: Quit: bbl [12:16] plays my flv without a problem, and my Doctor Who videos too [12:19] yes, slackware prides itself in supporting flash vids [12:21] ^ probably knows how to get the kernel to play that video on boot.... [12:21] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:21] thrice`, dunno if that is something to be proud of [12:21] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [12:21] that would be impressive; how about a plymouth addon? [12:22] dartmouth, no, that's quite sily [12:22] thrice`, its ok to be silly :( [12:22] rafu (slackrunn@77.53.11.107) left ##slackware. [12:23] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:23] especially when it's your system [12:23] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [12:23] besides, havent we broken away from the 'the best practice is a cold terminal with minimal functionality usage' dogma of the "linux is only for servers and barebones de's" era of the 80s and 90s? :P [12:23] just built libevent and transmission and it runs [12:23] w00t! [12:24] Action: dartmouth hates to say it, but ubuntu is way ahead of us in that new user model [12:24] that's a sense of accomplishment [12:25] of course it is, that's the purpose of desktop computing in a non-work environment. [12:25] dartmouth, so, install plymouth and hack the init system to use it [12:25] slackware doesn't try to do such things :> [12:25] i've always considered slackware a step above lfs [12:25] Nick change: mfd_ -> sbs` [12:25] gives you enough to start with [12:25] sbs` (~mfd@CPE001ee57a9930-CM001a6683085e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Changing host [12:25] sbs` (~mfd@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [12:25] cpuobsessed, nah its probably closer to freebsd than linux from scratch, minus the different kernels [12:26] Action: dartmouth probably stepped in it by saying that, but its true [12:26] doesn't transmission need other libs? canberra, etc? [12:26] mancha, no, just libevent [12:27] (psssst and freebsd is way ahead of us in terms of dep resolution) [12:27] then do us a favor and switch to it [12:27] i did two years ago :P [12:27] sbs` (~mfd@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:27] mancha, libcanberra is not a requirement [12:28] oh, i have it in my dep tree but i don't recall why i put it there [12:28] i tried freebsd a while ago [12:28] nachox: sup? [12:29] gentoo has too much compiling, took too long and didn't like my usb wireless [12:29] Dominian, not much, i dealt with it in #freenode :P [12:29] nachox: Yeah, not much I could've done. I'm no longer freenode staff [12:29] Dominian, right... crap, heh [12:30] say if i compile something, it's not compiled as i486; unless i use a slackbuild script [12:30] oh now i remember, i compiled it with canberra [12:30] i like sound [12:31] the typical scenario: download source, extract, configure, make, make install [12:31] cpuobsessed, slackpkg :) [12:31] cpuobsessed, if you past cflags to is, it will be [12:31] dartmouth, slackpkg is completely unrelated to compiling software [12:31] dartmouth, don't want to go that way [12:32] thrice`, right, because slackpkg doesn't compile anything. sorry. i forgot. or maybe you want me to be wrong ;) [12:32] i don't like the traffice to upstream when you run transmission though [12:32] dartmouth, can you write these things down? I think people get tired of trying to teach you [12:32] so i was compelled to nuke that; of course. [12:32] dartmouth, oh, slackpkg is similar to emerge on gentoo [12:32] _4p0c4LipS3_ (~cleison@189.70.147.8) joined ##slackware. [12:33] cpuobsessed, no, slackpkg manages slackware updates and packages from slackware-proper, not 'extra stuff' [12:33] Action: dartmouth writes down that slackpkg doesn't download, compile, package, and install. because thrice` said so. [12:33] oops sbopkg [12:33] Action: dartmouth was wrong [12:33] Action: cpuobsessed is confused [12:33] Arrrgggh [12:34] http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/maggieshiels/2010/06/the_open_source_entrepreneur.html [12:34] The guy who submitted a release version of murrine refused my offer. [12:34] No we will not. [12:34] Use a theme that doesnt require the devel version of murrine or just [12:34] package what you want locally for yourself. [12:34] cpuobsessed, sbopkg is a slackbuild addon that rsyncs the slackbuilds repo and downloads the source, runs the slackbuild, and installs it for you. [12:34] That's his answer. [12:34] MAATCIBEARB (~nicoolo@72.252.151.210) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:34] cpuobsessed, slackpkg is used to update your system for patches and such, or new versions of slackware. for any extra software, slackbuilds.org is a nice source for scripts. creating packages is the proper way, instead of 'configure, make, make install' [12:35] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:35] Action: dartmouth scoffs on 'the proper way' [12:35] Action: cpuobsessed steps over to dartmouth's camp [12:35] Action: dartmouth builds a fire [12:35] bad move. [12:35] i like when i crash my system :P [12:36] campcrystal lake? [12:36] cpuobsessed, no but if you do ./configu* make install you need to use the --prefix=/usr to avoid issues with 'the proper way' (lol) [12:36] camp crystal lake? (space bar fail) [12:36] it's like learning where the walls are [12:36] time to upgrade the home system - laterz [12:36] iceheart (0@120.195.172.127) joined ##slackware. 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[12:37] cpuobsessed, configure/make/make install is not so complete. it doesn't do things like gzip your manpages, link libraries potentially, strip binaries, etc. you also cannot un-install things, or update when the new version comes out [12:37] yep, i could avoid the whole cp /usr/local/lib/* /usr/lib [12:37] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:37] Action: dartmouth wonders if there's been an irc client exploit that's 'dangerous' when exploited on a client with root perms in about 10 years [12:38] xdoctor (~Joseph@201.79.243.62) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:38] cpuobsessed, if youre going to do that i'd recommend an ln -s type command in your cron instead [12:38] dartmouth, it means he hasn't created a user and is surfing very dangerously [12:38] if ln takes wildcards, i dont know that it does [12:38] Action: thrice` headdesks and leaves [12:38] Action: dive too [12:39] dartmouth, or i could just add /usr/local/lib to my path [12:39] eh; i question exactly how dangerous it is. many of the 'rules' are hype. just a bunch of guys makin' a whole lotta rules (cool hand luke homage) [12:39] who cares, banning root is phun. [12:40] dartmouth, if I type a command in this channel that is dangerous, and you accidently run it in another shell from copy/pasting it, you'll be slightly upset :> it encourages people to use user accounts like they should [12:40] thats how windows users get into trouble, surfing as administrator [12:40] im not sure that i've ever created additional users on a windows machine, and i dont think i've ever had security issues in windows [12:40] first thing i do is create my user, most other distro do the same [12:40] cpuobsessed, windows users get in trouble because they download smilies for AIM [12:41] a.k.a. women [12:41] men get in trouble for downloading tommy lee and pam anderson [12:41] no virii, no trojans, no rootkits, no spyware, no adware.... [12:41] dartmouth, same here; but we're not typical users and know how to avoid the stupid stuff [12:41] it's much easier to destroy a linux system [12:41] 99% of windows users who are trojaned don't know they are... [12:41] its also much easier to fix a linux system [12:41] figabo (~figabo@201.164.190.162) joined ##slackware. [12:41] because we know enough to be dangerous [12:42] wrong, there are quite some un-fixable commands that can easily be run [12:42] thrice`, like? [12:42] like running as root and using rm + tab completing too quickly [12:42] uninstalling pkgtools on slackware comes to mind :P [12:42] i've formatted my hd (doh!) and was still able to recover my pics and vids and mp3s [12:42] theres nothing unfixable about that. [12:43] dartmouth, sure, remove your /usr dir and describe how fixable that is [12:43] iceheart (~iceheart@118.147.251.164) joined ##slackware. [12:43] thrice`: or /etc [12:43] Action: dartmouth pops in a fs recovery boot disk and brings his /usr and /etc back [12:43] has anyone played with gcc 4.5.0 yet? [12:43] Action: dartmouth uses stable filesystems to avoid those kinds of issues [12:44] hayaza (~damengkje@125.166.169.170) joined ##slackware. [12:44] I've killed my /home before with an accidental file * instead of file* [12:45] haha [12:45] that sucks [12:45] me i just have a packrat mentality, i dont rm until im okay with losing all of it [12:45] i like mess [12:46] i'd have a neatly organizd directory tree if i knew anything aboutorganization [12:46] seeing as how you suggesting compiling from source, and running a cron job to create soft-links of /usr/local through-out the system? I've noticed [12:47] i do suggest compiling from source and i do suggest soft-links throughout the system as quick fixes. [12:47] iceheart (~iceheart@118.147.251.164) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:48] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:48] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:48] i also dont have anything close to 10% of the training you probably have, but i also have a decent feel for things. [12:48] iceheart (~iceheart@118.147.251.164) joined ##slackware. [12:48] Action: dartmouth is not into memorization, he's into systemic learning [12:49] meaning you could, out of rote, do things i wished i knew how to do, and im going to have alot of stupid questions, but i still have it down 'better than most'. [12:49] my bluefish can't input Chinese [12:49] Action: dartmouth looks into ##linux and shudders [12:50] i'm use fcitx [12:50] xdoctor (~Joseph@201.79.243.62) joined ##slackware. [12:50] figabo (~figabo@201.164.190.162) left irc: Quit: Computer has gone to sleep [12:51] iceheart, it thinks its turning japanese. i really think so. [12:51] Action: mancha wants to see HTML in Mandarin [12:51] Action: dartmouth ditto [12:51] i'm change to gb2312, but it not work [12:52] dartmouth, looked into #ubuntu? just as bad [12:52] http://jgogek.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/little-kid-smoking-cigarette-copy21.jpg [12:54] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [12:55] is any answer? [12:55] it's not enough to add the encoding, you have to then enter the codes [12:57] is there a canna-equivalent for chinese? [12:58] jjholt (~root@cblmdm72-240-21-44.buckeyecom.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:59] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:00] sorry, i'm not understand canna-equivalent [13:00] how do you normally input chinese characters? [13:00] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: Bang Bang!!!! [13:00] Xcin or something like it? [13:01] i'm use fcitx as input method, emacs works well [13:01] i have a idea of mutt [13:01] i don't know. you are probably best served by asking on a bluefish list [13:02] if a new email arrives, the terminal should send a bell single [13:02] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [13:02] or a bluefish channel if such exists... [13:02] i will try mancha [13:03] what is the mean dustybin [13:03] this channel is about the distribution in general not really about specific application support. also, i would guess not too many chinese speakers here... [13:04] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-223-225-25.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) joined ##slackware. [13:05] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:08] yes, you are right, in china, only a little people use slackware, but i'm still love slackware [13:08] Razec (~razec@187.34.21.20) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:09] you're a smart guy :) i think the major issue is related to chinese input and how it relates to bluefish not so much about slackware. now bluefish isn't part of the official distro so that means the needed innards might be missing. [13:10] bluefish has mailing lists, i just checked. i would go on to bluefish-users (the list) and a) search to see if your question has been asked/answered and if not b) ask your question. [13:12] thank you mancha [13:12] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-2-94.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:12] ml4711 (~morten@0x50a69862.rdnxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:14] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:14] dustybin, i've seen slack easily setup to tell you in all the terminals if it receives an email [13:14] nice [13:14] juice (~juice@67.48.16.165) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:18] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:19] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [13:19] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:19] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-157-114.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. 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[13:29] Action: dartmouth tastes like vanilla pie though [13:31] ml4711_ (~morten@0x50a69862.rdnxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:31] ml4711 (~morten@0x50a69862.rdnxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:32] shells often can be configured to look for mail as well [13:32] sunzu (~sunzu@pD9ED3F67.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:33] ml4711 (~morten@0x50a69862.rdnxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:33] Action: cpuobsessed is going to archive his Fedora 13 x86_64 root and copy Slack 13.1 into the root fs [13:33] zsh checks mail [13:34] bash too [13:35] normally set mailpath or whatever [13:35] pnq (asdf@ACA2BAE6.ipt.aol.com) joined ##slackware. [13:36] sunzu (~sunzu@pD9ED3F67.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:38] Nick change: bgs100 -> bgs000 [13:40] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:41] hrm i found the perfect resolution, and obviously my monitor can display it fine, but im getting that 'input not support' window floating around my screen teling me its a bad resolution; this is one of those things where the hardware has no problems but the software checks in the monitor are saying it does-- how do i disable that little floating window without sacrificing this great resolution? [13:41] flrichar (~toril@gfp.geexology.org) joined ##slackware. [13:44] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*.hvc.res.rr.com expired. [13:44] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*.hvc.res.rr.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:44] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:44] MrJackson (Mr@rm2348361283.main.ad.rit.edu) joined ##slackware. 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[13:51] you're not root [13:53] sbs` (spookz@CPE0012170da58c-CM00080d961284.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [13:53] sbs` (spookz@CPE0012170da58c-CM00080d961284.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Changing host [13:53] sbs` (spookz@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [13:53] i tried su [13:53] then i tried again [13:53] still no output [13:53] adaptr: i just pm'ed you. and its somewhat useful advice. [13:57] Nick change: sbs` -> sbs [13:57] sbs` (~mfd@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [13:58] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:58] Razec (~razec@187.34.22.114) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:58] Razec (~razec@187.34.22.114) joined ##slackware. [13:58] Nick change: sbs -> sbsdoze [13:59] adaptr, ok, i looked up the specs for the monitor, and AOC has changed the specs (for the same monitor -lol- from 1024x768 and has a horizsync and vertrefresh rate thats also updated, but the new max resolution listed on their specs is 1440x900 which i know is not the max the monitor can do, so i guess i need to make an educated guess about the rates; is there a formula i should use? [14:01] isw (~isw__@c-67-181-224-97.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:01] xqo (xqo@195.131.251.212.customer.cdi.no) left ##slackware. [14:02] MrJackson (Mr@rm2348361283.main.ad.rit.edu) left irc: Quit: Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug. [14:06] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:06] dartmouth: find the specs for the monitor, enter them in xorg.conf, restart X, try it out. 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[14:20] Action: spook sniggers [14:22] one thing I like about ubuntu users is that they are honest: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/forums/?ID=161324762 [14:23] xsamurai: lol [14:23] sunzu (~sunzu@pD9ED3F67.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:24] Sajmon (500@ej52.netikka.fi) joined ##slackware. [14:24] Hi all! Is there anyone who could suggest a music tracker for slackware? [14:24] And where to get it? [14:25] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] xsamurai: ahahaha. that guy is honest. other users? not so much. [14:27] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:27] Sajmon: music tracker? can you describe more verbosely the functionality you are looking for? [14:27] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:28] xdoctor (~Joseph@201.79.243.62) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:29] dartmouth (~dartmouth@72.95.97.163) joined ##slackware. [14:30] hrm, yeah, setting the verts didn't work too well :/ maybe i could do it faster with xrandr so i dont have to kill X every time to figure out what the monitor needs...? [14:30] xsamurai: haha that's awesome [14:30] spook: a program to create music with, like FastTracker(dos) that i have used sometime [14:30] because im not doing 1600x1200 beautifully, but its still doing the OSD thing on the monitor... [14:30] *now doing [14:31] i have read about cheesetracker but i could not find it for slackware [14:31] cheesetracker? [14:31] I like cheese [14:31] cheese tastes good yummy :P [14:31] haha :P [14:32] lf4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:32] Sajmon: http://www.soundtracker.org/ that's like fasttracker afaik [14:32] Sajmon: so entirely synthisizing your own music? or mashing other music together? [14:33] thanks alot :D i will try to get that one to work [14:33] lf4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) joined ##slackware. [14:34] Sajmon: you could also take a look at that site http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/6/8/2524/90038 [14:34] spook: i dont really know about that. i just want to play around a little with making music :P [14:35] Sajmon: so a bit of both. its good to know what you want. helps you find it [14:35] yeah sure a little of both :) [14:37] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!0@* expired. [14:37] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:38] spook: do you know these people; http://poorlydressed.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/129187595108183714.jpg ? [14:39] Sajmon (500@ej52.netikka.fi) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:39] Action: mrpwnage frowns. 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[15:16] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7E0C6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:17] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:20] MReimer (~chatzilla@p4FD4918A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 2.0.4/20100404005729] [15:22] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.63) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:22] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [15:28] peacedog (~peacedog@pool-71-254-87-107.lyncva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:30] v4nelle (~van@79.107.216.94) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:30] Where is the documentation on using the kde3 compat packages? [15:30] _4p0c4LipS3_ (~cleison@189.70.147.8) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:32] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:32] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [15:32] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:35] does 13.1 still have a kde3 compat package? [15:38] yeah, in extra [15:38] deathof1 (~nic@c-71-61-141-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:38] k3b 1.0.5 is still present there [15:39] peacedog, what docs do you need? install them and go. [15:40] I'm trying to get pdfedit installed. I installed the qt3 package and pdfedit is still complaining. [15:40] xsamurai (~munki@unaffiliated/xsamurai) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:41] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:41] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:42] It's a slackbuild, I thought I'd find some documentation at slackbuilds, but it just states the compat packages are required. [15:42] doesn't alienbob have those packages on his site? [15:43] _4p0c4LipS3_ (~cleison@189.70.130.211) joined ##slackware. [15:44] thumbs, alien has multilib, compat is part of slack, in extra/ [15:44] thumbs: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/ he has k3b plugins... [15:44] peacedog, you should install all the packages in kde3-compat directory, except k3b3. [15:45] arts ? [15:48] cuvee (~admboom@71.22.124.213) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:48] pdfedit sucks [15:49] mancha, recommendation? [15:49] v4nelle (~van@79.107.216.94) joined ##slackware. [15:49] editing pdfs is not a recommended practice [15:50] what i recommend is you edit the source file [15:51] The source file is a web receipt. No editing available. Editing pdf's should not be that bad. I've done it on other platforms w/out much trouble. [15:52] mancha: did you convert to btrfs? [15:52] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-423378.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [15:53] i have a btrfs partition i am playing with :) [15:53] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-423378.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:53] is it better than butter ? [15:53] mancha: : WHERE'D ALL MY FILES GO??? [15:53] impossible [15:54] you won't believe it's not butter! [15:54] :P [15:54] mancha: indeed I do not. show me your hands! [15:55] the only file on my box i worry about is /dev/zero and i back it up nightly [15:55] mancha: :P [15:55] what about /dev/full ? [15:56] you should keep a running log of /dev/urandom, too - what if those bits escape onto the interwebs ? [15:57] Nick change: motzi -> motzmo [15:58] as long as you don't log /dev/random, you're fine. because you'd constantly be out of system entropy [16:00] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:00] mercfate (~fate@201-75-111-74-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:00] hi [16:00] cuvee (~admboom@71.22.124.213) joined ##slackware. [16:00] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:02] anyona can help me with ffmpeg install? [16:03] pnq (asdf@ACA2BAE6.ipt.aol.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:03] mercfate: what's the issue? [16:03] i need ffmpeg to install zoneminder [16:04] on zm site have a tutorial about installation on slack [16:04] laeild (~laeild@41.66.6.11) joined ##slackware. [16:04] using the package, the install occurs fine [16:04] but on zoneminder compilation i get errors [16:05] ok, what package, where did you get it and what errors exactly do you get? [16:06] now i cant write this [16:06] because the installation is in other computer [16:07] i get the packages on slackfind [16:07] well, it's difficult to give you a solution to a problem we don't know :) [16:07] i know [16:08] but on ffmpeg site dont have the dependencies [16:08] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [16:08] ilj_ (~ilj@195.88.15.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:08] and the versions of dependencies [16:09] i used this guide [16:09] http://www.zoneminder.com/wiki/index.php/Slackware_12.2 [16:10] chance22 (~chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:12] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-223-225-25.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:13] lf4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:14] droog (~navi@unaffiliated/droog) joined ##slackware. [16:14] lf4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) joined ##slackware. [16:21] _4p0c4LipS3_ (~cleison@189.70.130.211) left irc: Quit: Saindo [16:21] chance22 (~chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:21] The pdfedit slackbuild from slackbuilds.org is failing with "QTDIR environment variable must be set" I have installed the kde3 compat packages. Help? ;-) [16:23] did you logout after installing them? [16:23] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:23] mercfate, you can get working ffmpeg from alienBOB [16:24] slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/ [16:24] hum [16:24] thanks [16:24] i will try [16:24] mercfate, and I have a great SlackBuild for zoneminder lying around, but I haven't got round to packaging the perl dependencies yet. [16:25] nice [16:25] u can send me? [16:25] sure I can. let me fetch it [16:25] thanks :) [16:26] i will gain money with zm instalations [16:26] :D [16:28] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-3-236.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:29] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:32] sahko: I didn't logout, is that the problem? [16:32] yes [16:33] the qt files in /etc/profile.d/ need to be sourced [16:34] cpuobsessed (~tim@adsl-074-183-121-238.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:34] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] Thanks, I'll be back. [16:37] peacedog (~peacedog@pool-71-254-87-107.lyncva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Peace out ;-) [16:38] cuvee (~admboom@71.22.124.213) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:40] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:47] danix (~danix@host19-52-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:47] cpuobsessed (~tim@adsl-074-183-121-238.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:47] mercfate (~fate@201-75-111-74-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Quit: Saindo [16:47] cpuobsessed (~tim@adsl-074-183-121-238.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:47] hmm.... I think I am going to package the perl modules now. gf is asleep and there is a little time. [16:48] Nick change: oobe -> doo [16:48] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [16:48] Nick change: doo -> oobe [16:49] i get this error when i type ding ding ding ding bash: ding: command not found [16:49] wtf is ding? :D [16:50] i dont think there is anything called ding [16:50] it's bing! v3 [16:50] just simpley stating a fact [16:50] if i type ding in console i recieve the commond not found error [16:50] let's all thank oobe for supplying us with this valuable piece of info! [16:50] Action: slava_dp thanks oobe [16:50] haha [16:51] i fixed the fart command not found error [16:51] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:51] with this http://www.insidiousramblings.com/files/fart.tar.bz2 [16:55] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:55] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-223-225-25.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [16:56] oobe, wrote a function for ya: fart() { dd if=/dev/urandom bs=512 count=1 of=$(tempfile -p fart); } [16:57] haha, nice one [16:57] should have called it dump() actually :D [16:58] output it to /dev/dsp ;-) [16:58] adrien, woo! [16:58] or play around with sox [16:59] Pay with your OWN sox, you perv! [16:59] um, *Play [16:59] or pay [16:59] pnq (asdf@ACA46DDB.ipt.aol.com) joined ##slackware. [16:59] I will galdly pay you with my sox, rob0 [16:59] GLAADly [16:59] hehe [16:59] Who the hell is this adaptr guy anyway, who let him in here? [17:00] Probably some bot. [17:00] suatalpoglu (4ebb20fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.187.32.253) joined ##slackware. [17:00] slava_dp, would that overwrite the bootsecter? [17:00] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:00] rob0: I came in through your backdoor [17:00] reminds me of jeev [17:01] fart() { dd if=/dev/urandom bs=4096 count=1 > /dev/dsp; } [17:01] rewritten :D [17:01] or /dev/dsp* for the folks who use multiple cards :) [17:01] depends on how annoying you want to be [17:01] redir to multiple files would require a loop [17:02] let's assume they have one card :) [17:02] and if you have only the pc speaker? [17:02] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:03] pc speaker can only pee, not fart, i'm sorry :D [17:03] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-10.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:03] it can beep out curse words [17:05] kimjeng (~mike@196.201.217.228) joined ##slackware. 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[17:36] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:37] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:38] perl modules are sick [17:38] MrJackson (Mr@rm2348361283.main.ad.rit.edu) left irc: Quit: Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug. [17:38] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [17:40] get (~isix-os@devel.isix-os.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:41] I wonder if the main distros actually have all modules packaged. [17:41] Nick change: bgs000 -> bgs100 [17:41] slava_dp: why would you need to ? that's what CPAN is for [17:41] Maitreya (~dharma@unaffiliated/maitreya) joined ##slackware. [17:42] adaptr, tell that to sbo admins. [17:42] what does that have to do with sbo ? as with PHP, if you have CPAN set up you can just get modules [17:43] I want to push zoneminder to sbo, need a number of cpan modules for it [17:43] which have deps on their own [17:45] ah, okay, so.. erm.. call cpan from your slackbuild ? [17:46] _they_ _will_ _not_ _accept_ _that_ [17:46] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [17:46] you will need make slackbuilds for each module [17:46] Indeed you will [17:46] and other deps [17:46] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Quit: chao pajudos =P [17:47] alienBOB, you realize that's about 15 modules? [17:47] You want to submit zoneminder, you provide the deps too. That is our policy [17:47] sux [17:48] slava_dp, this may be why nobody has submitted it before [17:48] Not for those who use our stuff [17:48] does zm need the modules during the build ? or just when it runs [17:48] v4nelle (~van@79.107.216.94) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:48] are they build-deps or runtime-deps [17:48] slackbuilds.org is all about building as well as using. So it will not matter [17:49] I mean, he can write a slackbuild that either does that or instructs people to do that. doesn't have to be on sbo [17:50] That is not how it works adaptr [17:51] uhm ? are you trying to tell me that you want to dictate how other people write slackbuilds ? [17:51] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:51] No. Only for those slackbuilds that get submitted to slackbuilds.org [17:51] then please read what I said :) [17:52] "mumble SLACBUILD. mumble NOT ON SBO" [17:52] YEs I read that [17:52] But slava_dp wants his on slackbuilds.org [17:52] well, he can't have it [17:52] next! [17:52] loboestepario (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [17:52] if the slackbuild was good, and zoneminder worked with full functionality, I wouldn't care where I got it [17:52] good software advertises itself [17:53] Nick change: loboestepario -> el_lobo--d-_-b [17:55] josemanuel (~josemanue@168.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [17:55] Razec (~razec@187.34.22.114) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:02] Action: rob0 advertises adaptr [18:02] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-423378.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:02] I can advertise myself if I was any good! [18:02] lol [18:02] But then you would have to adapt [18:02] yeah... that's not gonna happen [18:02] oh, right, IF you were any good, yes. [18:04] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [18:04] Hm.. I don't suppose there's a way to remount the filesystem rw if mount is broken? [18:04] I need to mount it to fix... mount. :'( [18:04] haha, mount should be on the rootfs [18:04] It is, but it's missing a library. [18:05] Because... my kernel decided it wanted to shut down my laptop because of a "critical temperature". [18:05] boot the install dvd and reinstall the lib? [18:05] boot from CD/USB and fix it, I guess would be your option [18:06] MrJackson (Mr@rm2348361283.main.ad.rit.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:06] Action: rob0 is old fashioned, not booting DVDs [18:06] heh [18:06] And of course it HAD to do this right when upgradepkg was upgrading something linked to mount. [18:06] mount should be static [18:06] THis laptop doesn't have an optical drive, trying to get a USB image of some sort but the only thing I have here is some multicard reader. [18:06] well, guess not :) [18:07] I wouldn't mind if it were. [18:07] libblkid, libuuid, libc.so.6,/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 [18:07] libblkid [18:07] It broke down EXACTLY when it had removed libblkid and not yet installed the new version. [18:07] I mean, what are the chances of that happening? [18:08] util-linux-ng package [18:08] Think "Murphy" :) [18:08] libmurphy.so.13 [18:08] are you on slackware? slackware preinstalls the binary before removing files [18:08] MrJacks0n (~MrJackson@host216.ezlinx.net) joined ##slackware. [18:09] TheGroove, ^^^ [18:09] upgradepkg implies Slackware, as does asking in ##slackware :) [18:09] Yeah I am... and it didn't, apparently, in this case. [18:09] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:09] davimint (1000@c-76-123-149-120.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:09] Where does it store these? [18:09] rob0, ok - upgradepkg true - but how many helps get asked by non-slack users? :) [18:09] if the upgrade is from 13 to 13 [18:10] all those who think "ugh, difficult issue, the nerd on #slackware will have a clue" [18:10] I know, I always try to be alert to that, but since TheGroove mentioned upgradepkg ... [18:10] MrJackson (Mr@rm2348361283.main.ad.rit.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:11] ok - my eyes glazed over upgradepkg there - something about an 8y/o hanging around me :) [18:11] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] : 0 [18:11] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [18:12] davimint (1000@c-76-123-149-120.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:12] It's like our secret handshake here. :) [18:13] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [18:13] if the upgrade is from 13.0 to 13.1 this ugly thing cam happens some of those lobraries are moved by upstream from e2fsprogs to util-linux [18:13] Nick change: MrJacks0n -> MrJackson [18:14] That's quite possibly what happened... it was a -current upgrade on a machine that hadn't been updated for a while. [18:15] I pretty much just keep /home on a separate partition/drive, and keep backups of important files on the /boot partition under /boot/backups [18:15] then do a full install with formatting on / [18:15] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:15] OH NO [18:15] I mkfs.vfat my root / [18:16] except for /boot and /home [18:16] doh! [18:16] Can I.... undo that? [18:16] nope [18:16] ouch [18:16] do _do_ have /home on a separate partitoin (hopes+crossed fingers) [18:16] unmkfs.vfat! [18:17] MrJacks0n (Mr@rm2348361283.main.ad.rit.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:17] Is there an MBR backup somewhere? [18:17] not if you didn't make one :( [18:17] adaptr (~adaptr@xs.adaptr.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:17] newbquestion, do i have to telinit 1 to upgrade glibc ? [18:17] Ok, so I broke 2 machines today. [18:18] C00re: no [18:18] Having problems not smashing anything right now. [18:18] k [18:18] Runlevel 3 is OK [18:18] good, ty [18:18] adaptr (~adaptr@xs.adaptr.nl) left irc: Changing host [18:18] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) joined ##slackware. [18:18] Don't be running all kinds of programs at the same time though [18:19] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-66-68-104-116.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:20] the only thing yoyu should run while upgrading glibc is qmmp whih should be playing ravel's bolero at volume 10 [18:20] MrJackson (~MrJackson@host216.ezlinx.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:20] :o? [18:21] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:21] nickals (~nickals@179.10.103.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:21] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [18:21] Nick change: MrJacks0n -> MrJackson [18:22] for a kernel upgrade i recommend....hrmm, maybe Rimsky-Korsakov's Fligt of the Bumblebee [18:23] heh [18:25] maybe Straus's strauss thus spake zarathustra [18:25] during boot up anyway [18:25] if you really want some relaxing why not the 1812 overture [18:25] alienBOB, I have to build only 19 modules for ZM. with 4 additional being on sbo already. [18:25] nineteen modules! [18:26] ZM=?? [18:26] zoneminder [18:27] cctv thing [18:27] 19 modules of ZM on the wall, 19 modules of ZM....take one down, pass it around... [18:27] no kidding [18:28] Sloppy programming, if they need that many external modules to do the work for them? [18:28] Or extreme case of re-use [18:28] alienBOB, I demand an exception for me. [18:28] Alas [18:28] or trying to do something like the kernel when you say "make allmodules" :) [18:28] we demand... a shrubbery [18:28] Nich [18:29] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-66-68-104-116.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:29] And not just any shrubbery [18:29] i wish i could help but i don't compiler, er roll, on shomer shabbas [18:29] they need 9, rest are dependencies of the modules. [18:29] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-66-68-104-116.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:30] speaking of compile, i'm ver curious to try gcc 4.5.x; the word is they do some fancy mathematics! [18:30] what do you mean? [18:32] it is supposed to be able to do complicated math more accurately at build time [18:32] yeah, not sure many things are going to benefit from that [18:33] Nick change: phrag -> phrags [18:33] actually not complicated, i meant complex (as in a+bi) [18:37] v4nelle (~van@79.107.216.94) joined ##slackware. [18:38] tusk1 (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [18:39] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:40] tusk (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:44] http://patentabsurdity.com/ [18:44] tusk1 (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:45] mercfate (~fate@201-75-83-155-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:46] hi [18:46] where i can find libavdevice? [18:46] ffmpeg prolly [18:49] I'm not seeing it on default 13.1 (64-bit) [18:50] thanks [18:50] mercfate (~fate@201-75-83-155-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [18:50] v4nelle (~van@79.107.216.94) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:50] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [18:51] welcome [18:51] hey mancha =) [18:52] my fresh linode box =) [18:53] whois phrag [18:53] whoops =P [18:54] hey phrag! are you having existential issues? [18:56] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:56] tusk1 (~tusk@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [18:57] spidertux (~spidertux@host96-175-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:57] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:00] skratt (~root@81-226-63-190-no179.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. 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[19:09] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Client Quit [19:12] spidertux (~spidertux@host96-175-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:15] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [19:15] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:16] Nick change: oobe -> schloompy [19:16] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [19:16] Hi., [19:16] Nick change: schloompy -> oobe [19:19] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [19:20] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-157-114.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [19:21] flrichar (~toril@gfp.geexology.org) left irc: Quit: brb [19:22] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:24] Does anyone know where I can find static versions of sbin binaries, primarily mount? [19:25] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Quit: chao pajudos =P [19:25] install disk - probably part of busybox [19:25] part of the boot initrd [19:25] Oh, good point, any easy way to extract that? [19:26] not unless you have some other tools available :) [19:26] I do... I have one machine left that I didn't break, haha. [19:27] Well and I regained access to the first broken machine's disk, through its windows install.. I can inject files into the filesystem, but it being ext4, I can't read/replace most of the existing files. [19:27] requires cpio [19:28] Linked libs... does a binary look in its current dir for linked libs or does it only look in the LD path? [19:28] My alternative would be putting mount and its required libs in a dir and make sure it can load the libs. [19:29] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:29] adjam (~adjam@kde/developer/adjam) joined ##slackware. [19:30] if you have slackware already installed on a machine, busybox is also available in /usr/share/mkinitrd/initrd-tre.tar.gz [19:30] SkyNet_ONE (~Ederson@201-92-218-56.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:30] . /usr/share/mkinitrd/initrd-tree.tar.gz rather [19:30] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [19:30] flrichar (~toril@gfp.geexology.org) joined ##slackware. [19:31] SkyNet_ONE (~Ederson@201-92-218-56.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:31] nevermind - the busybox in there is shared - libm.so.6, libc.so.6, ld-linux-x86.xo.2 [19:31] nevermind - the busybox in there is shared - libm.so.6, libc.so.6, ld-linux-x86[-x86-64].so.2 [19:31] Would it work if I dumped that into a dir, though? [19:32] if those 3 libs are available, maybe [19:32] you can chroot there [19:32] adjam (adjam@kde/developer/adjam) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [19:32] ldd busybox not a dynamic executable [19:32] Hm, maybe mine's different. [19:32] really? which one? which slackware version? [19:32] 12.1 on this box [19:32] ah [19:33] might be because mine's slack64 [19:33] 13.1 [19:33] Possibly [19:33] Gonna try this, thanks! [19:33] np [19:33] ken, how's converting your stuff at work to slackware? [19:33] jeev - going nowhere :) [19:34] I have a slackware desktop and a slackware personal server and that's it [19:34] bah [19:35] slackware.dreamhost.com [19:35] not much on it right now except slackware.mirrors.tds.net mirror and some minor things [19:35] too bad dreamhost's network is slow :D [19:35] it's fast for me [19:36] for webhosting clients [19:36] and fast enough at home [19:36] I have a website there (as a client) as well, and it's fine [19:36] weird [19:36] I've found most webhost client slowdowns are due to things like wordpress plugins and non-optimized mysql setups [19:37] oh well, bbiab [19:37] except when someone does a ddos or ssh ddos on a guest :) [19:37] alisonken1home: man, you're lucky you get to slack at work! my IT director doesn't really like linux. the closest I get at work to running linux is a centos vm. better than no linux I suppose:) [19:37] heh [19:37] hitest: ms shop? [19:38] yep [19:38] all the way [19:38] YeOldeFarte (~wyatt@66-162-49-20.static.twtelecom.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] I've had an ms shop where I snuck in a linux box for some server stuff- and the only comment was "good work fixing that network problem" [19:38] of course, they didn't ask _how_ I fixed the problem :) [19:38] hehe [19:38] alisonken1home: some don't care how ;) [19:39] until they find out - then some interesting testing comes up - like trying to replace it with an ms solution, then they find out how borked things can get [19:39] pnq (asdf@ACA2CC32.ipt.aol.com) joined ##slackware. [19:39] Anybody have a problem installing Slackware 13.1 where the installation halts part way to the login screen? [19:39] i remember when it was leaked that microsoft's webservers were apache on linux :) [19:40] yeah, that was awesome [19:40] YeOldeFarte, I only had that problem when I was doing an upgrade, not a fresh install [19:40] ms farmed out their webservices to a contractor - so it's debatable on that [19:41] Shuren (~Devilman@host33-171-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:42] With Slackware 13.1or Salix 13.1 or the latest version of Absolute linux the installation halts before the setup is executed on my Core2Duo desktop. [19:42] Some say on other forums that the issue applies only to 64-bit processors. [19:43] Some say that the initrd.img overwrites the kernel image halting the install. [19:43] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Quit: "Go nèirì bothàr leat" [19:44] YeOldeFarte, try appending "noapic acpi=off" when you boot the install disk [19:45] nachox (~Ignacio@28-73-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:46] Thanks. [19:46] if it works - np :) [19:47] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-66-68-104-116.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:48] hayaza (~damengkje@125.166.169.170) joined ##slackware. [19:48] hrmm, i predicted ff 3.6.4 over the weekend...it's almost over and it looks like i will lose [19:49] YeOldeFarte (wyatt@66-162-49-20.static.twtelecom.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:51] mancha, it's not even halfway for me [19:51] unless you count friday [19:52] yar, was sorta counting fri-sun, but point taken [20:01] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:03] adaptr (~adaptr@xs.adaptr.nl) joined ##slackware. [20:03] peacedog (peacedog@pool-71-254-87-107.lyncva.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Peace out ;-)"). [20:03] 4 out of 7 of the worlds most powerful super computers run linux http://www.cynical-c.com/?p=7937 [20:04] 3 out of 4 dentists recommend slackware [20:04] yea [20:05] for sure [20:05] do the other 3 use windows? [20:05] 7 out 10 micosoft support workers recommend linux [20:05] no i dont think so [20:05] they dont specify what they use [20:05] probably BSD [20:06] but putting windows on a high precision super computer wouldnt work [20:06] LSD` (~ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) left irc: Read error: No route to host [20:06] putting windows on a low-precision desktop doesn't work either [20:06] #2 uses " lightweight Linux Operating System" [20:06] a supercomputer needs lightweight? [20:06] worse than going to an expensive restuarant and asking for tomato sauce [20:06] atleast the food would still function correctly [20:07] i don't think thats a good argument [20:07] you can tell the quality of a restaurant on how well they handle the simple foods [20:07] figabo (~figabo@200.52.176.130) joined ##slackware. [20:08] adaptr (~adaptr@xs.adaptr.nl) left irc: Client Quit [20:08] windows cant handle simple tasks [20:08] hehe [20:08] i wasn't defending windows, but the tomato sauce [20:08] windows sucks [20:09] adaptr (~adaptr@xs.adaptr.nl) joined ##slackware. [20:09] linux users hate windows, and BSD users hate linux =/ [20:09] a chef i know can take the simplest ingredients and make something delicious [20:10] there are bsd users? [20:10] replay: that's a gross overstatement [20:10] you think so? [20:10] the only ones who care, care way too much [20:10] replay: a large chunk of real IT professionals, who work with linux, do not hate windows [20:11] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:11] peter__ (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:11] replay, i use linux, but i don't hate windows [20:11] i meant regular users [20:11] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:11] peter__ (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:11] obviously not all of them [20:11] I don't have enough respect for windows to hate it [20:11] replay: more like zealots [20:12] i know this is old but [20:12] http://www.forbes.com/2005/06/16/linux-bsd-unix-cz_dl_0616theo.html [20:12] "It's terrible," De Raadt says. "Everyone is using it, and they don't realize how bad it is. And the Linux people will just stick with it and add to it rather than stepping back and saying, 'This is garbage and we should fix it.'" [20:12] the thing i hate about windows are the broken apis and the undocumented functions you need to use inorder to use ms files and protocols [20:12] replay: another factor that usually affects it is the length of time said person has been using linux. the less time, the more hate for windows. [20:12] peacedog (~peacedog@pool-71-254-87-107.lyncva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] replay: theo is a great case of a zealot [20:13] lmao [20:13] what about linus? [20:13] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] he also rants about everything [20:13] replay: he's not a zealot [20:13] replay: he's actually much more open minded than theo [20:14] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950 [20:14] "Security people are often the black-and-white kind of people that I can't stand. I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys, in that they make such a big deal about concentrating on security to the point where they pretty much admit that nothing else matters to them. " [20:14] that's why when he actually rants on any subject, it makes big news [20:15] really? I thought it was just cause he's kind of a relaxed guy and has a sense of humor :> [20:16] and that quote is in line with that character. he's noticing how much of blind zealotry is prelevant in the obsd community [20:16] many of those top ten descriptions don't mention the OS [20:17] and now for a fun reading: http://clientsfromhell.net [20:17] 3,4,5 for example [20:19] linus was a bit flustered when he wrote his masturbating monkeys thing, it seems he wanted to say "...To me, security is important. But it's no MORE important than..." [20:20] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [20:21] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. 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[20:32] Nick change: oobe -> ding [20:32] Nick change: ding -> oobe [20:32] I think the OBSD development community is pretty good, but they do seem to attract more than their fair share of clueless "ZOMG-THIS-IS-SECURE" idiots who don't even understand the tradeoffs between security and usability. [20:33] um, as USERS, not as developers, of course. [20:33] hayaza (~damengkje@125.163.9.92) joined ##slackware. [20:33] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:34] i think you can't put the three big flavors into the same bag [20:34] what about PC-BSD? [20:34] Action: jeev drop kicks rob0 [20:35] hope you're the goalie or that was a corner shot... [20:35] replay: it is a good distro, based on freebsd [20:36] why do most of those supercomputers listed on that site do nuclear testing, including weapons. what a sad sad world [20:38] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-207-68-51-191.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:38] Action: ananke wonders wtf jeev is talking about [20:38] nachox (~Ignacio@28-73-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:39] v4nelle (~van@79.107.216.94) joined ##slackware. [20:40] Heya,folks [20:41] ananke: I do that often too. [20:41] leontopod (~leontopod@intertwingled.net) left irc: Quit: Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer [20:43] everyone in my university uses ArchLinux, I'm the only one using Slackware, feel lonely :-/ [20:43] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [20:44] hiya MLanden [20:44] heya,hitest...how's it going? [20:45] replay: by 'everyone', do you mean students, staff, departments? [20:45] students, or colleagues [20:45] SkyNet_ONE (~Ederson@201-92-218-56.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:45] MLanden: things are good, thank you:) how are you? [20:45] the school itself uses nothing but Windows [20:45] SkyNet_ONE (~Ederson@201-92-218-56.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:45] interesting. i could see students using arch, but not in production [20:46] hitest, doing geat thanks [20:46] jjholt (~root@cblmdm72-240-21-44.buckeyecom.net) joined ##slackware. [20:47] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:47] hitest, the junior leage baseball in BC...how's the popularity? [20:48] replay, it's lonely at the top. [20:49] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:50] hitest, was referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.C._Premier_Baseball_League [20:50] sinuhe_ (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) joined ##slackware. [20:50] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) left irc: Disconnected by services [20:50] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:50] Nick change: sinuhe_ -> sinuhe [20:51] I think Gentoo can physically destroy a drive [20:51] Got to use the Hitachi Ricer [20:52] cause its powerful like a hammer? [20:52] iceheart (0@120.195.172.127) joined ##slackware. [20:52] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [20:52] iceheart kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Using IRC as root is dangerous. Please reference "Using IRC as root" via google for further information. [20:52] thar he blowz [20:53] never used PC-BSD, how big is it? how big a footprint? [20:54] well of my friends likes gentoo so he installed it on a brand new drive, he asked someone to install some packages, 5 minutes later the drive just crashed, the file system gave I/O errors, the drive just crashed [20:54] lol said drive crashed twice xD [20:54] never tried PC-BSD myself [20:55] replay: right. so blame the os. very logical [20:55] lmao [20:55] hey the drive as bran new [20:55] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:55] brand* [20:55] replay: even higher chance of it failing [20:55] replay: infant mortality [20:56] lol you blame the manufacture i'll blame gentoo :) [20:56] alienBOB, you here? [20:56] that's how people used to do witch hunting. thinking that correlation equals causation [20:56] replay: at least i can provide reasonable arguments, rather than drawing a wild conclusion. [20:56] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) joined ##slackware. [20:57] mancha, seen reference to it on distrowatch along the lines of KDE's development with the BSD's and UFS2 [20:57] Dude it was a joke =/ [20:57] gentoo might work your cpu a bit more, but surely not the hd [20:57] MLanden, interesting. someone here mentioned it, i got curious. [20:57] I'm always looking for new things to stuff in my VM :) [21:00] pnq (asdf@ACA2CC32.ipt.aol.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:00] is it possible to use a hypervisor (Xen) inside a VM? [21:00] replay: no [21:01] mancha, see that it has good community amongst the BSD distros...with freebsd's repository,might find on of those old gems in the packages.;) [21:01] s/on/one [21:02] MLanden: good question. I don't follow baseball that much, so I'm not sure if it is popular here in BC. [21:02] hitest, ok [21:03] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@97.103.10.* expired. 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[22:12] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:12] ##slackware: mode change '+o phrag' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [22:12] hmmm...does alien's wine have libgsm support? [22:12] the reason, winehq's wine doesn't [22:12] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [22:12] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [22:12] hayaza (~damengkje@118.96.221.231) joined ##slackware. [22:13] phrag: who is that? [22:13] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [22:13] Slackware 13.1 x86 DVD ISO (everything) has no seed. [22:13] I mean Slackware 13.1 x86 DVD ISO (everything) torrent has no seed. [22:14] sbs (~mfd@CPE0012170da58c-CM00080d961284.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [22:14] sbs (~mfd@CPE0012170da58c-CM00080d961284.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Changing host [22:14] sbs (~mfd@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [22:15] nyRednek: that was they guy join/part flooding.. looks like he has network issues [22:15] Dominian: oh... [22:16] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@168-103-63-242.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Quit: Changing server [22:18] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-157-114.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:19] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@97-127-217-248.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:19] hayaza (~damengkje@118.96.221.231) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:20] heh [22:22] ping timeouts and Max SendQ is awfully suspicious [22:23] could be his client tryng to join too many channels [22:23] or if he has a stpudi client and everytyime it joins a channel is /whois everyone [22:25] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [22:26] same user with the sendQ issues a while back, iirc [22:26] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:26] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:29] hayaza (~damengkje@125.163.8.185) joined ##slackware. [22:31] Boltsky (~bolt@cpe-76-168-252-230.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:33] anyone know how the files at the top of the package sets are generated? [22:33] such as CHECKSUMS.md5, FILE_LIST, MANIFEST.bz2, PACKAGES.TXT [22:34] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:34] I'm creating a private mirror and need to add my own private package set [22:34] maybe check a slackbuild script [22:34] I'm using slackbuild scripts to generate the actual packages, and that's working fine [22:35] oh you mean the files that go in with the archives [22:35] yeah [22:35] md5sum * should work to make CHECKSUMS.md5 [22:35] ls > FILE_LIST might work [22:35] I'm just curious how Patrick does it, wondering if his script is out there somewhere [22:36] yea i would say so but cant help im afraid [22:37] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:39] hayaza (~damengkje@125.163.8.185) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:39] Nick change: oobe -> dong [22:40] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [22:41] jeev (~email@174.139.9.42) joined ##slackware. [22:41] jeev (~email@174.139.9.42) left irc: Changing host [22:41] jeev (~email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [22:41] PACKAGES.TXT is probably generated from /var/log/packages/ [22:41] http://www.stabellini.net/repos.html might be close [22:42] Nick change: dong -> oobe [22:43] BP{k}, Were you able to hear more 'bout those o2 jogglers? [22:44] sking (~Adium@24.238.12.206) joined ##slackware. [22:45] hayaza (~damengkje@125.166.176.40) joined ##slackware. [22:45] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-157-114.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [22:47] Nick change: sking -> sking_ [22:48] Boltsky: there is a "gen_repos_files.sh" script from alienBOB that creates the files [22:48] Nick change: sking_ -> sking [22:48] perfect! [22:49] thanks a bunch [22:49] I had a feeling he would have written what I was looking for [22:50] There's a how-to guide I have here somewhere that explains all of this... If I find it, would you like me to send it to you, Boltsky? It's a pdf. [22:50] sure, that'd be great [22:50] ok, let me grab my thumb drives. ;-) [22:53] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!0@* expired. [22:53] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [22:53] ok, found it. want to send me your e-mail address in a private message? [22:53] done [22:54] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [22:56] sent. hope that helps, brother. [22:56] thanks [22:57] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:58] SigmaVirus24 (~WhoAmI@pool-71-251-46-246.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:58] Nick change: SigmaVirus24 -> Guest20407 [22:59] has anyone had any luck running slack 13.x in a vmware vsphere infrastructure? [22:59] Nick change: Guest20407 -> SigmaVirus24 [23:05] bacal (~si@cpe-66-91-211-8.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[23:27] sbsdoze (spookz@CPE0012170da58c-CM00080d961284.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Changing host [23:27] sbsdoze (spookz@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [23:30] protheus (~protheus@91.75.147.38) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:31] hayaza (~damengkje@125.166.186.187) joined ##slackware. [23:33] caiofbpa (~caiofbpa@189.115.91.253) joined ##slackware. [23:40] sleekslack (~umislack@58.64.95.214) joined ##slackware. [23:40] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:44] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-157-114.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:48] Does anybody have a slackware 13.1 torrent that has many seeds? [23:48] Mine has no seed at all. [23:48] It is slackware 13.1 DVD [23:49] kutani (~kutani@cpe-72-177-8-158.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:51] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [23:53] normally, the official slackware site, www.slackware.com, offers a link to a global torrent [23:53] that torrent contains all seed and peers [23:53] i have a mirror you can use, its not torrent but it is a 100Mbps connection& http://slackare.kingrst.com [23:54] err http://slackware.kingrst.com [23:54] ok [23:54] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [23:54] Woohoo! I just cleaned my keyboard! :D [23:55] riza, \o/ [23:55] k but seriously [23:55] what should one eat for dinner? [23:55] sking : Don't you have a DVD image? [23:55] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [23:56] riza,find Hoffa? ...old reference...:) [23:56] I've got one, but it's not torrentable yet - straight d/l [23:56] MLanden, yep - veeerry old reference :) [23:56] crocket: i should [23:56] let me check the mirror again :\ [23:57] MLanden, I know exactly what you are talking about but nope. :o [23:57] alisonken1home, true...even before my time...:D [23:57] I need to install slackware 13.1 because my laptop BIOS doesn't support VT-x at all, so I can't run slackware64 13.1 in a VM. [23:57] I want to build packages in a clean slackware in a VM. [23:57] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [23:58] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [23:58] MLanden, I was in H.S. when that happened [23:59] rumor has it elvis is hiding hoffa [23:59] cypherpunko (yogini@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left ##slackware. [23:59] Action: MLanden had to wiki that one...just right in the nick of my timeline...5 yo when 1st noticed..:) [23:59] sbsdoze (spookz@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) left irc: [00:00] --- Sun Jun 20 2010