[00:00] er, actually, if you're booting from the CD, there are instructions right damn there on the screen [00:00] restarting going back to boot option [00:00] Cotowar: Why? [00:00] think i know what urchlay is taking about [00:00] Urchlay++ [00:01] + sign of the cross [00:01] christ [00:01] Urchlay = Christ [00:01] heh. If I were Christ, I'd be making a few changes in the world... [00:01] Hear ye, hear ye, I have some commandments [00:01] Number one is, you better make me a sandwich! [00:01] Action: pirving would legalize marajuana if he was christ [00:02] *marijuana [00:02] because i just got my tax return, and i was thinking about building a computer. i dont have a big enough HD on my laptop to do everything i want to do, and my only available desktop is slower than shit [00:02] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX1CvW38cHA [00:02] Xires (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:02] check that video out [00:03] hugesmp.s root=/dev/sda3 ? [00:03] and i dont want to buy a computer that can max out at 16GB RAM if slackware can only handle 4GB. plus i'll save a ton of money [00:03] Cotowar: If you just do 4Gb you can use slackware. If you go higher, i'd suggest using Slamd64. I have 4Gb on my pc, and i had to rebuild the kernel to be 64GB+ in order for it to recognize it, but im Slamd64 i didn't have to do that. [00:04] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iS8XMIhIa4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iS8XMIhIa4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv9hOH2vAuM [00:04] check out those three videos and tell me what you think [00:04] okay. is slamd64 basically just a 64-bit version? [00:04] Cotowar: And unless you are doing some hefty graphics vectoring, i doubt you'll need more than 4Gb. [00:04] Cotowar: Yes. [00:04] exactly my thoughts [00:05] i was thinking of building a computer, and doing programming / media stuff on it [00:05] Xires (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [00:05] Xires (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:06] pirving: if you were christ, you might have done better to outlaw crucifixion... [00:06] i mainly play around in java, and the linux version of VB6, which is fun for small apps and games, but I would like to start getting into some heavier stuff. [00:06] ehm, VB6? There's visual basic 6 for Linux? [00:06] yea, its not as full featured, but it works [00:06] its called Qbasic [00:07] the IDE is a bit shady, and the libraries aren't as extensive, but its there for basic stuff [00:07] the qbasic I'm familiar with is nothing like VB... it's more like gw-basic or IBM basica [00:08] you talking about FreeBASIC? [00:08] IDK what those are, but I had it last semester for my VB programming class (read: joke) and it worked fine for basic programs [00:08] might have been [00:08] ok i ran the root= /dev/sda3 and i then mounted linux partition when i got in to the root login. then i enterd startx [00:09] yea, we spent an entire semester 2 hours a day, 3 days a week, learning up to, but not including for loops... [00:09] ok run lilo [00:09] good old community college [00:09] teaching people BASIC is a crime anyway [00:09] now i have a cursor which is functioning, but only a black screeen [00:09] well first check you /etc/lilo.conf [00:09] can not access cause i have black backround and a cursor that is it [00:10] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:10] hello Old_Fogie [00:10] Action: Old_Fogie waves hello the chann :) [00:10] MrAlexandro: Old_Fogie is a regular here and a pro [00:10] Action: firebird619 waves hello to Old_Fogie [00:10] Urchlay: its a good intro to real programming. i took a semester of VB in HS, and going through Fortran and Java was a breeze. Well, the whole class model in Java threw me for a loop, but I got it eventually [00:10] heh, don't know about that pirving :) [00:11] xdan779 (n=daniel@64-233-207-75.static.nap.wideopenwest.com) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [00:11] they just put up with all my rants, raves, and grumpiness here [00:11] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [00:11] teaching people VB is even worse (it's a vendor lock-in)... though I suppose what they really taught you was a clone of it called FreeBASIC [00:11] then again though, I concentrated on finding patterns in the languages, and didn't really look at the programming structure, but the underlying logic [00:12] hey old fogie, could you help me start up slackware from my partition )sda3) and run lilo to be the main bootloader. i lost my lilo bootloader when clicking fix on the vista dvd [00:12] no, in HS i learned VB6 for windows, and last semester it was VB.net for Vista. the most god awful programming experience of my life, and if had some shitty assignments before [00:13] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [00:13] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:14] back in HS, i tried to write a calculator that could do integral calculus and physics, that was fun. VB.net is just a headache. all my assignments got corrupted every single time i uploaded to the school server, because the designer file would get lost. i had to do every program like 3-5 times [00:14] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:14] MrAlexandro: We told you boot using the prompt at boot: and run lilo [00:14] MrAlexandro, I dont have any Vista experience. But that aside, typically restoring your lilo is as simple as (a) boot your slackware install cd/dvd (b) when it comes to the prompt to recover an installation follow them instructions to boot an already installed on /dev/sda3 (c) log-in as root (d) assuming slackware's lilo already saw your vista, you just run 'lilo' as root and it will re-install . if slackware's lilo wasn't [00:14] aware of vista before, edit your /etc/lilo.conf or run the liloconfig script as root (it's part of pktool) [00:14] from the command type lilo [00:14] liloconfig [00:14] then run lilo [00:14] right? [00:15] well 'lilo' just reinstall's according to what's in your config at /etc/lilo.conf ; running 'liloconfig' as root creates a new /etc/lilo.conf file and then run's 'lilo' at the end to install should you decide to accept the changes you made with it. [00:15] Old_Fogie: actually he's already been told what you just said... I think english might not be his 1st language though [00:16] Urchlay, ah ok. maybe he's stuck on the booting up part to an already installed Slackware. That had been an issue for me in the beginning iirc [00:16] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:16] heh, well that is correct, but if you listened you also saw i was not able to boot up the sda3 partition corectly i even asked if my command was correct [00:17] MrAlexandro: What does the startup screen say? [00:17] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:17] Mr. Zandros LOL [00:18] Xandros [00:18] Mr. Xandros [00:18] HAHA [00:18] to use a kernel name, with the dev sda3 with = ndinit =ro tried it again now. so do not have the excact name here [00:18] will tell if i fail. and if i succeed [00:19] ok [00:19] mth- (i=1000@pc-23-182-45-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:19] i think it worked. i did forget the ndinit =ro at the end [00:19] MrAlexandro: well, you're looking at the screen full of instructions, and I'm not... so you should know if the command is right :) [00:19] ndinit =ro <---- ? you mean [00:19] HA [00:19] so yeah i am in. and i did get what you where saying i just failed follow instructions [00:20] yeah [00:20] i wrote without it first [00:20] then it would not mount the partition [00:20] but now i am in [00:20] ok [00:20] run lilo [00:20] ok [00:20] reboot [00:20] done [00:20] chekc the lilo.conf [00:20] yup [00:20] thanks guys [00:20] we can tell you how to get rid of vista if you like too :) [00:20] heheh [00:20] yeah i bet [00:20] Hey run vista through virtualbox of qemu [00:21] or VMWare Player [00:21] Or not at all [00:21] pirving, does that work with an already existing install on a physical disk? [00:21] Depends if you like pulling your hair out or not. [00:21] lillilo [00:21] lolita [00:21] ops wrong keyboard [00:22] Old_Fogie: Does what work? [00:22] pirving, running any OS in vmware/qemu that's already installed (that's what I thought you suggested but I may have misunderstood you there) [00:22] Yes, it should run, I dont' see why not [00:22] Old_Fogie: I know that didn't work worth a damn with windows 2000 [00:22] installed on physical native [00:23] old fogie how serios is it that i have a fatal message. "fatal: open /dev/sda2: no such file or directory. i do not have the sd2 parittion [00:23] whats on sda2? [00:23] it is not existant [00:23] not a problem them [00:23] alright:D [00:23] is this after running lilo? [00:24] MrAlexandro, sounds fatal to me. before you told me that your install was on /dev/sda3. Which is your Slack installed on? [00:24] sda3 [00:24] and swap on sda5 [00:24] vista on sda1 [00:24] and osx86 on sda 3 [00:24] I got a kernel crash with the -current kernel too :( [00:24] arggh [00:24] nathanbw (n=nathan@67-60-226-125.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] MrAlexandro, sounds like you'll need to edit your /etc/lilo.conf ; or run liloconfig as root and go thru the wizard. then just read the etc/lilo.conf file and be sure it's right before booting. 'fdisk -l' can list what's going on in your hard drive. [00:25] hmm ok [00:26] bbl [00:26] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-159-38.epm.net.co) left irc: "leaving" [00:26] osx and slackware both on sda3!? [00:26] usteveu (n=steve@c-68-40-200-92.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] i will try to reboot, then start up the dev sda3 partition and then login as root then enter liloconfig [00:26] good eye there chopp . [00:26] error_de6eloper_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:26] no osx86 on 4 sry [00:27] liloconfig doesn't work for me [00:27] I would just edit the /etc/lilo.conf with pico [00:27] or nano [00:27] or vi or emacs [00:27] notepad.exe [00:27] Old_Fogie: ha ha [00:27] notepad.exe in wine [00:27] HA [00:28] mcedit! [00:28] heh, i had wine in ubuntu [00:28] wine kicks ass, but virtualbox or qemu of VMware kicks more [00:28] notepad in wine in a virtual ubuntu on osx [00:28] HA [00:29] KVM's qemu [00:29] heheh [00:29] what is OSX? [00:29] mac os... [00:29] or just drink some wine and worry about it tomorrow [00:29] how do you run mac os on a ibm pc? [00:29] umm.... [00:29] pirving: It's Intel. [00:29] pirving: in case you didn't know this...apple uses intel cpus now... [00:29] and have for a while now [00:30] so can I run os x on my intel cpu? [00:30] yes [00:30] wow, that rad [00:30] yes you can [00:30] like I would want to [00:30] but they are currently working on a patch to make the intel wifi chipsets work [00:30] how about os x through virtualbox? [00:30] kernel patch and kext drivers [00:31] Oh, so my netgear usb wireless adapter will not work? [00:31] maybe netgear [00:31] you can check it on their compability list [00:31] i just do not want to buy an wireless card, i wait until drivers are made [00:32] and i need internett in my os [00:32] so can I run in virtualbox? [00:32] yes i even think i saw a guide for it [00:33] hwo to set up the bios in that virtualbox. what distro was the best etc [00:33] hm. OSX was more fun on a proper Mac (PPC) [00:33] they have had to modify the mac os c setup disk to run on pc s. since it is not entirely lega [00:33] legal [00:34] if it's PC hardware running a Unix-like OS, it might as well be running Linux [00:34] yes [00:34] and i got lilo. thanks for not quiting me guys [00:34] finaly [00:35] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [00:36] linux-probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:36] mogunus (n=marco@wsip-70-184-14-138.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:36] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:37] Hi all. Got slack 12.2 running okay on my laptop. Ran into trouble though: two finger tap to paste isn't working [00:37] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:37] mogunus, synaptics? [00:38] yep, I have it in my xorg [00:38] scrolling works [00:39] mogunus: check /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse [00:39] if you see 'proto=imps' there, remove it [00:40] it is indeed there [00:40] should I now restart x? [00:40] eh, actually wait a sec, I might be telling you wrong [00:40] (post removal?) [00:40] you'd want to "rmmod psmouse; modprobe psmouse" [00:41] but wait a sec [00:41] you in fact remove (or comment out) the entire line [00:41] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-12-212.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:42] peace out guys. got a lab in the AM [00:42] (sorry, was going by memory, now I'm actually looking at my laptop's config) [00:42] it's all good :) [00:42] also in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, in the 'Section "Module"', you want a line 'Load "Synaptics"' [00:42] got that [00:42] cool [00:42] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:43] Cotowar (n=mike@adsl-235-74-165.clt.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [00:43] tried commenting out that line, and now scrolling doesn't work either. [00:43] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-12-212.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:43] so edit /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse, comment out the 'option' line, rmmod psmouse; modprobe psmouse, then startx [00:43] trying that now [00:44] think that's all that's needed. I was following someone else's directions, should have saved a copy... [00:44] DeepY0X_ (n=DeepY0X@190.40.106.121) joined ##slackware. [00:44] mogunus (n=marco@wsip-70-184-14-138.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:44] actually I've got 'Load "syntaptics"' with lowercase s [00:45] also 'man synaptics' is helpful [00:45] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-72-131-0-46.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: No route to host [00:45] (once you get the touchpad recognized as a touchpad and not a generic mouse, you have a few options in xorg.conf to configure its behaviour) [00:45] mogunus (n=marco@wsip-70-184-14-138.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:45] scrolling is back, but still no two-finger paste [00:47] yeah, see that man page for how to enable it [00:47] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:47] mogunus (n=marco@wsip-70-184-14-138.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:47] look for "multifinger taps" [00:49] actually there are bewildering array of options :) [00:50] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:51] can i spice up slackware. like with eyecandies? [00:51] I had to go through all the trouble of setting up the synaptics stuff just to *get rid of* the tap-to-doubleclick [00:52] eh, tap-to-click, I guess it was. Very annoying [00:53] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [00:54] MrAlexandro, normal people remove eye candy... [00:54] MrAlexandro, when you get really good you stop using a screen [00:54] hmm. that actually sounds cool [00:55] i am not good... [00:55] molafishPrime (n=efu@c-76-127-78-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:55] lol [00:55] well of course you can add stuff, i think the question is do you want to? [00:55] compiz [00:56] i don't use icons for example.... [00:56] :O [00:56] I don't care for compiz, it's not that exciting [00:56] i can have compiz in slackware too?? [00:56] edman007: From the sound of it, you don't even use a screen. :P [00:56] hehehe [00:56] It's useful, though. [00:56] Action: MrAlexandro laughing for real [00:56] ed man was a musician in Frank Zappa's Band [00:56] lol [00:57] I guess it is, I've never set it up in slackware [00:57] i use to use gnome, now i just use flux, no file manager (unless you count the shell/bash), no window decorations... [00:57] most stuff i just run by typing it name into the run window... [00:58] but i have problem installing stuff in slackware [00:58] MrAlexandro, like? [00:58] flux rules! [00:58] MrAlexandro: Just go to slackbuilds.org and read the manual [00:58] Action: edman007 high fives pirving [00:59] DeepY0X__ (n=DeepY0X@190.40.101.17) joined ##slackware. [00:59] like. vlc & xchat and compiz [00:59] fbsetbg -i wallpaper.jpg [00:59] MrAlexandro, apps and stuff should be installed with slackbuilds, things like kde themes/icons should be fine using the kde stuff [00:59] you can find xchat allready installed [00:59] Umm... xchat and compiz COME with Slackware. [00:59] auch i guess you are right [00:59] jkwood, though in fairness the compiz that is included sucks [00:59] vlc you can get from their website [00:59] Action: MrAlexandro embarrased [01:00] MrAlexandro, you probably want compiz fusion [01:00] yess [01:00] fusion [01:00] cube [01:00] Emerald [01:00] but xchat is preinstalled [01:00] I hate that theme [01:00] edman007: Not necessarily. [01:00] i saw xchat now, that is why i am embarrased [01:00] how do I get compiz working in slackware? [01:00] pirving, emerald got renamed IIRC [01:00] like the chat client? [01:01] why is it stupid to run irc as root? [01:01] is mac os x open source or do I need to steal it from pirate bay? [01:01] steal... [01:01] sry mate [01:02] don't ever run irc as root [01:02] people can run scripts on your system [01:02] ok ok [01:02] what?? [01:02] do we still have the root ban in place? [01:02] Action: MrAlexandro disconecting [01:02] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.40.123.153) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:02] edman007: /bans [01:02] Nope, not in place. [01:03] i have created user, any where i can see that username. cause i forgot:;D [01:03] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.40.96.232) joined ##slackware. [01:03] i know my password is standard as always but forgot username [01:03] pirving, PureDarwin is opensource...basically its just the GUI and stuff that uses the GUI that is closed source in OSX [01:03] cat /etc/passwd ? [01:03] MrAlexandro: cat /etc/passw.... DARNIT EDMAN007 [01:03] :P [01:04] :D:D [01:04] thanks edman [01:04] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:04] :) [01:05] DeepY0X__ (n=DeepY0X@190.40.101.17) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:05] too late the dmg is done... we have uploaded millions of images of lolcats thru your interwebs [01:06] how do you install fusion and cube? [01:08] MrAlexandro: Those things are on slackbuilds.org [01:08] oh ok. sry i get it rtfm.....:D [01:09] Action: MrAlexandro is watching southpark e02 s 13 now [01:09] gzus_ (i=1000@24.96.132.100) joined ##slackware. [01:09] MrAlexandro: I didn't mean it that way, :) I was just saying where they could be found. For how to install things from slackbuilds.org, read http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [01:10] yeah i was just pointing out that i know how anoying a foreign noob can be. in a humorous way:D i am apreciating the support on this channel. like really:D [01:11] can someone help me get compiz working? [01:11] MrAlexandro: :D Yes, this is a very friendly, helpful channel. [01:11] indeed:) [01:12] anyone? :) [01:12] Ok, does anyone here know a lot about Frank Zappa? [01:13] not me. :) [01:13] I haven't used compiz in a long time. [01:13] i have it installed, just when i try to run it it says another window manager is already running [01:14] i don't get the deal [01:14] compiz --replace [01:14] LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rNgCnY1lPg&NR=1 [01:14] ... [01:14] friendface ftw! [01:14] If you don't use that, then it won't try to replace what's running. [01:14] gzus_ (i=1000@24.96.132.100) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:15] agentc0re: lol [01:15] germ analogy ovar! [01:16] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [01:16] where do I look if sendmail rejects logins that testsaslauthd returns as succesful? [01:16] DeepY0X_ (n=DeepY0X@190.40.106.121) left irc: Connection timed out [01:18] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:21] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-115-216.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:22] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:24] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.40.96.232) left irc: Connection timed out [01:25] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-115-216.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:27] gzus_ (i=1000@24.96.132.100) joined ##slackware. [01:27] sdf [01:27] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:27] lewer [01:28] Nick change: gzus_ -> syph [01:29] syph (i=1000@24.96.132.100) left irc: Client Quit [01:34] molafishPrime: prolly /var/log/mail [01:34] i have the log [01:34] it just says 535 5.7.0 authentication failed [01:35] strike that, the client log says that [01:36] server says: did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MSA-SSL [01:44] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [01:49] anyone familiar with java. or more spesificly dhtm javascript. such as a menu designer? [01:49] gzus (i=1000@24.96.132.100) joined ##slackware. [01:50] wtf [01:50] gzus (i=1000@24.96.132.100) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:50] Umm... Javascript != Java. [01:51] ok. java then [01:52] you probably want js [01:52] where can i pastebin? [01:52] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com [01:54] MrAlexandro (n=chatzill@24.238.109.202) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:55] MrAlexandro (n=chatzill@24.238.109.202) joined ##slackware. [01:56] i installed ftp in firefox and fell out. can i get the pastebin adress again pls [01:56] pastebin.slackadelic.com [01:57] fixed... uping sendmail's log verbosity uncovered a config error with sasl [01:58] usteveu (n=steve@c-68-40-200-92.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:59] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [02:00] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:02] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/11159 here is my script. or my edition of the script. this script is a menu designer. it was perfect when someone helped me make it target its links in an iframe. the thing is, right now it just opens the link as the whole page. [02:02] i used it as a header on top of my page for navigation an it would stay there when i browsed the links [02:07] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:07] how do I run virtualbox? [02:07] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:07] pirving, did you install it? [02:07] VirtualBox [02:07] :) [02:08] pirving: you should be more specific heh [02:08] Synaptics is a neat driver. [02:08] There's so many options. [02:08] Tech Support: "Is the computer plugged into the wall" ... Customer: "No! My computer didn't come with a wall." [02:08] pirving: grab the All Distributions binary (.run file) and run it as root: sh virtualboxfilethatyouhavejustdownloaded.run [02:09] then, as your user, run: /path/to/VirtualBox [02:10] ah damn, it errors out [02:10] I should try qemu [02:10] strankan (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [02:10] nix_chix (n=misspwn@67-54-164-2.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:10] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [02:11] well, can you pastebin the error? [02:11] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/ [02:12] Old_Fogie: Customer: I have a huge problem. A friend has placed a screen saver on my computer, but every time I move the mouse, it disappears. [02:12] firebird619, ahahahah! good one! [02:13] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-8-226-79.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:14] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-164-2.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:14] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-8-226-79.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:15] gzus (i=1000@24.96.132.100) joined ##slackware. [02:15] hi all [02:16] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-023-055.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [02:19] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:20] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:22] Nick change: gzus -> syp [02:22] how do I run qemu? [02:22] Nick change: syp -> sypho [02:22] Nick change: sypho -> neuk [02:22] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:22] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:23] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:23] Nick change: neuk -> yuck [02:23] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:23] pirving: seriously? [02:24] qemu command not found [02:24] are you using qemu or KVM? [02:24] qemu [02:24] this will be the best place to start, courtesy of alienBOB http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:qemu [02:27] MrAlexandro (n=chatzill@24.238.109.202) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]" [02:28] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:29] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [02:33] what kind of file system does OS X need? [02:34] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=OSX+filesystem&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq= [02:34] pirving: why are you asking about OS X in ##slackware? [02:34] you're too helpful, nullboy [02:34] .... [02:34] pirving: take a clue [02:35] use google to answer the questions that google can answer... [02:36] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&qWill+I+ever+find+true+love&ag=f&og= [02:36] blah, I don't want to run it anyway [02:36] pirving: you're not going to run something because you're too lazy to search Google? [02:36] that's just retarded [02:37] yes [02:37] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [02:39] ok should I download vmware server to run a virtual machine? [02:39] or the Workstation? [02:40] the Workstaiton only comes in RPM [02:40] Next question: what breakfast cereal should I have tomorrow morning? [02:42] http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/slackware-qemu-wxp.png [02:42] nullboy: yours? [02:42] yeah [02:42] kde :P [02:42] syph (i=1000@24.96.132.100) joined ##slackware. [02:42] yep [02:43] yuck (i=1000@24.96.132.100) left irc: "Leaving" [02:43] notice the similarities between the desktop in the QEMU window and the one outside of it. [02:44] It comes in *.rpm and bundle [02:44] yeah they both work pretty well [02:44] I allready tried rpm2tgz [02:44] that didn't work [02:44] nullboy: I always had problems with KDE. [02:44] nullboy: mostly because it's not mix-and-match [02:45] I guess any DE is like that, though. [02:46] nullboy: what's the world-with-fuse icon/ [02:46] ? [02:47] Minefield [02:47] unbranded firefox, i build FF for myself [02:47] takes forever, I bet [02:48] not too bad, i's say around 20 minutes [02:48] i'd** [02:48] I was going to do that once, but I decided against it. [02:48] I thought it would solve an issue I was having (which turned out to be caused by my using my 2.x profile with 3.x). [02:50] can someone please explain what a bundle file is? [02:50] no [02:50] use google [02:50] *.bundle and would someone explain how the hell to install vmware workstation if it only includes a rpm [02:50] it says OS X [02:50] the easy way is to install pkghelpers from slamd64 and then adapt the slamd64 firefox source build to 32bit slackware [02:51] that works great [02:51] Slackware is OS X now? [02:51] When did that happen? [02:51] no I'm trying to install vmware workstation [02:51] and all it has is an rpm [02:51] ccfreak2k: Dude, we have a black president. Anything is possible now. [02:52] tried rpm2tgz ? [02:52] yes [02:52] should I try rpm -i ? [02:53] Action: Camarade_Tux knows nothing about rpm [02:53] was there an error ? [02:53] personally, i would just extract the rpm to a directory and then restructure my own slackbuild [02:53] Considered using virtualbox instead? [02:53] yes [02:53] nullboy: the other day I compiled warzone2100, and it took a lot less longer than I thought. I'm always afraid to compile big source packages. [02:53] all sorts of error [02:53] s [02:54] godling, hopefully not my slackbuild. It's kind of old. [02:54] ccfreak2k: which? [02:54] ccfreak2k: I did warzone2100 on my archlinux box [02:54] Oh [02:54] Well nevermind then. [02:55] I had to modify the PKGBUILD though because someone forgot to compile it agains the new openal version [02:55] I'm also having all kinds of trouble with the new bluez implementation [02:55] but that's a long story [02:55] hmmm, have to go [02:55] ttyl [02:55] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [02:55] Anyway I'm the maintainer for the Slackbuild for Warzone 2100. I couldn't update it because newer versions required a newer version of autotools. [02:55] Although I haven't checked recently. [02:56] I'm actually impressed by warzone2100 [02:56] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "User disconnected" [02:56] I used to play it quite a bit in college (2006ish), although I've played it before that. [03:00] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430645.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:00] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430645.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:00] michael_ (n=michael@72.4.62.155) joined ##slackware. [03:02] michael_ (n=michael@72.4.62.155) left irc: Client Quit [03:02] You know, my teacher didn't even give us a study guide for my final exam. So instead of studying for the rest of the evening, I'm going to jerk off in IRC. [03:02] productive, amirite? [03:03] shouldn't matter if you know the stuff [03:04] and if you don't know it, it's too late to worry about it now? [03:04] well, it's calculus [03:05] integral calculus [03:06] roccity_ (n=roccity@ip-118-90-96-184.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [03:07] hey guys does slackware slow down after heavy use? [03:07] I noticed that when using kde some things took longer to open [03:07] roccity_: maybe, if you run out of RAM and start having to use swap [03:07] umm [03:07] Urchlay: I got 1gb of ram [03:08] or even if you run low on RAM and the kernel can't use a big chunk of it for a disk cache [03:08] i have 2 gigs of ram and i use every bit of it [03:08] 1 gig is the new 512 [03:08] nullboy: seriously? [03:08] like when I open konsole it takes some time and the cursor just bounces [03:08] guys, srsly [03:08] 512 is more than suffice for desktop use, even 256 is fine imo. [03:08] roccity_: you can check with either "free -m" or "top" [03:09] oh so i should probably qualify my statement...i constantly compile huge things on this system [03:09] Urchlay: yeah thats the werid thing it only using like 600 MB [03:09] of ram [03:09] roccity_: what type of disk? [03:09] As long as you're not running firefox, 256 is fine for desktop /me thinks (no compiling, no virtual machines) [03:10] nullboy: you mean like ide or sata? [03:10] i'll bet you're seeing thrashing [03:10] roccity_: .... [03:10] Old_Fogie: what do you use for a browser, and does it support multiple tabs/windows? [03:10] Urchlay, epiphany, opera, seamonkey .. never FF [03:10] #iptables is giving no love. If there's any ip routing wizards out there, my problem is described here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/ip-route-config-access-an-ip-in-another-servers-netmask-712722/ [03:11] if your system is slowing with kde open and you still have 600MB of ram free i'm looking to disk IO as a potential cause [03:11] cause I bet I could chew up all the RAM with tons of browser tabs, even using a more memory-efficient browser than firefox... [03:11] Why does orage need 16MB of resident memory? [03:12] nullboy: I uninstalled kde and am getting it again to see it still ahppens [03:12] nullboy: I turned off alot of services and things as well [03:12] Urchlay, sure you can eat up 256..but for normal desktop user, 512 is more than enuff. KDE is only 100 meg of ram, opera 20, instant mess about 10, xmms is 5, so what else is there :D [03:13] bittorrent! [03:13] you can open every app that comes with slackware, and not exceed 512 mb. [03:13] and 30+ tabs [03:13] tho I use firefox [03:14] having that many tabs is just tarded to me, but that's me. I find that chaotic, and really dont understand the need for that, but that's just me. [03:14] and 8 or so xterms with 10,000 lines of scrollback each [03:14] actually if I notice I have more than 25 or so, I'll start killing some of 'em [03:14] average desktop user you are not.. real people dont use terms, or 30 tabs, :) [03:14] Chaotic is my D&D alignment, dude... [03:14] what am I then, a fake person? [03:15] can't be a clone, I have a belly button [03:15] no a heavy linux user, not a typical desktp user [03:15] going to see about this download for kde be back [03:15] roccity_ (n=roccity@ip-118-90-96-184.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) left ##slackware. [03:15] my wife does not sit there with 30 tabs in FF, with 8 xterms w/10,000 lines of scrollback, compiling, and running a vm, and ssh'ing , and d/l pron off of bittorrent, and hosting a HTPC off it :) [03:16] well, see, if I ever get married, I want to marry a girl who *does* do all that :) [03:16] oh and transoding and converting video files, in/out heh [03:16] (which probably just means I'll be single forever) [03:17] Urchlay, yeah my statement of 512 is for a non-linux'y admin type of person using the Slackware boxen. In daily use, they'll never eat more than 512 imho. [03:17] boxen... That's a Brian Reganism [03:17] what's that? [03:17] something Brian Regan would say [03:17] who's he? [03:18] comedian [03:18] "I have a cardboard box of boxen" [03:18] oh ok [03:20] "Bitch, get yo' ass back in the server closet and recompile my kernel!" [03:20] Urchlay, you're a *true* romantic :) [03:21] The appropriate stand up containing the boxen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGFYiKNZ4XA [03:23] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [03:24] molafishPrime: is that meant to be audio-only? [03:24] or anyway almost nothing going on in the video [03:25] that youtube link was yeah [03:25] dumb [03:25] but it's lifted out of his first HBO special [03:26] yuck (i=1000@24.96.132.100) joined ##slackware. [03:26] ok, so flash video playback isn't hosed, that's good to know [03:27] yeah i was wondering the same thing at first [03:27] standup comedy can generally get by with no video anyway [03:28] this guy heavily relies on facial expressions [03:29] Urchlay: that's how I listen to all my Bill Hicks. :) [03:32] yuck (i=1000@24.96.132.100) left irc: "leaving" [03:33] syph_ (i=1000@24.96.132.100) joined ##slackware. [03:35] syph_ (i=1000@24.96.132.100) left irc: Client Quit [03:36] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-023-055.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:37] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [03:38] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-17-136-2.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [03:38] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:40] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD883D5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [03:41] morning [03:41] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-71-236-216-76.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:41] slackytude: it's not morning [03:41] wait [03:41] it is, my bad [03:42] aye, its morning [03:42] shebaloma (n=shebalom@cpe-74-76-81-106.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:42] otherwise I wouldnt be at work with coffee in me hands [03:42] bleah, I hope you're not in my time zone [03:42] it's 4AM here [03:42] it's not even 1 AM yet [03:43] Isn't it magical how the internet brings us all together? :D [03:43] Action: godling gets ready to sing [03:43] Action: slackytude coffee++ [03:43] you are just clinging to the past [03:43] always one step behind [03:43] its all in the attitude [03:44] people who go to work at 4AM are like aliens to me [03:47] arp (n=root@190.246.170.32) joined ##slackware. [03:47] hello [03:47] hello [03:47] can help me please? [03:47] syph_ (i=1000@24.96.132.100) joined ##slackware. [03:47] arp, could you tell me the mac address of me mates pc, please? [03:48] Action: slackytude is doing an arp request [03:48] he's in here asking for help because someone flushed his cache... [03:48] arp: you should not IRC as root [03:49] ok [03:49] arp: come back as a non-root user and we will help [03:49] arp: it's a big security risk! [03:49] yes, i know [03:49] i'm run live cd [03:49] jeje [03:50] oooh, someone's going to root his disposable ramdisk [03:50] syph (i=1000@24.96.132.100) left irc: "Leaving" [03:50] but, i change to user [03:50] arp (n=root@190.246.170.32) left irc: Client Quit [03:50] he could have other stuff mounted, Urchlay [03:51] also sensitive data [03:51] I like his nicks [03:51] err his nick [03:51] yes, it's very original [03:51] :P [03:51] arp (n=root@190.246.170.32) joined ##slackware. [03:51] *shrug*, anyone who would IRC as root is probably doing 10 or 12 other things that would be real security problems [03:51] xD [03:51] arp (n=root@190.246.170.32) has joined ##slackware [03:51] now, i like set default keymap in ES [03:51] i hate the whole IRCing as root issue argument. [03:52] IRCing as root is only potentially dangerous, if there's an exploit in your client... [03:52] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:52] its bogus :x [03:52] and to be honest, it'd be just as devastating to most of us if someone exploited our clients as our primary non-root users... [03:53] yep [03:53] all me porn would be in danger [03:53] then there is the whole argument of chrooting irc clients etc etc [03:53] Urchlay, not me that's why I run this cool irc client I got from a link off a Russian pron site [03:53] heh [03:53] lol [03:53] they even haz cool secure kernel modules [03:54] sounds really cool [03:54] i'm gonna install that elite basic protocol client [03:54] =P [03:54] chrooting an IRC client... is somewhere on my priority list below "make and wear a tinfoil hat" [03:54] tinfoil hat protects the brain from brain waves [03:54] dont dis [03:54] yeah, they say not to be worried about the high level of upload traffic it causes, they say that's the way they 'stress test' my computer to be sure it's safe, sounds good to me. [03:54] life can become very confusing. [03:54] i set witch "loadkeys es.map", but when reboot system reset to default US map. how to define default keymap? [03:55] arp: 'pkgtool' [03:55] go to services [03:55] then select the keyboard char map related service. [03:55] change it. [03:55] i haven't a rc.d/rc.keymap [03:55] :S [03:55] pkgtool will make one. [03:56] Urchlay, I've read about chrooting an irc client, and for the most part, the google search showed it to be a falisy of it being safe. IDK, I'm not a security pro. [03:56] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:56] pkgtool is package manager..... [03:56] Old_Fogie: lol, making a secondary account and running irssi from a screen session in it [03:57] arp: no, its not. it has verious other uses. [03:57] acidchild, that sounds better to me than the chroot (again based on what I read) [03:57] Hmm. [03:57] oye [03:57] um [03:57] Old_Fogie: for the ultimate secure IRC client, get an Atari 800 and run the client I wrote for it [03:57] Why is the OpenAL in SBo so old? [03:58] ccfreak2k, actually more apps are compatible with that version than the new one from creative I'm finding. I've got issues with Unreal tournament with the new for example [03:58] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [03:59] only view package manager in pkgtool [03:59] just pop the door open on the 5 1/4" floppy drive after the program loads, and you're guaranteed nobody will be able to touch any of your data [03:59] I can't even download the one linked in the info file. :( [03:59] some apps wont build on the new one I find, and you have to go an add patches to your sources, that aren't from the dev's of the app ya know [03:59] other option where are? [04:00] arp, slackpkg [04:00] sbopkg [04:00] www.slackbuilds.org [04:00] www.sbopkg.org [04:00] reading difficulties? vision problems? [04:01] i have got a loadkeys command and ES.map, only set default keymap to ES when reboot system [04:01] arp, and pkgtools allows you to install/remove, not only view [04:01] shebaloma (n=shebalom@cpe-74-76-81-106.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [04:02] yes [04:02] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [04:02] Old_Fogie: best way to interupt exploits is removing executatble permission off folders. [04:02] there is no need for users to know what folders / contains [04:02] or /var or all of the folders in /etc [04:03] i no need install never packge [04:03] arp: if i take a screen show of how to change it like i told you to [04:03] will you send me money or drugs? [04:04] lol [04:05] arp: set it in rc.local? [04:05] Tyrael_ (n=bart@c2224.upc-c.chello.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:05] Tyrael (n=bart@c2224.upc-c.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. 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[04:27] Moin :) [04:31] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:34] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [04:35] stazich (n=root@c-98-222-0-43.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:36] pirving: Um.. no? [04:39] sticks (n=sticks@ppp118-208-72-127.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [04:39] I wouldnt care [04:42] sticks (n=sticks@ppp118-208-72-127.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:46] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:48] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-235-80.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:54] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.13) joined ##slackware. [04:56] <_RadioHead> morning [04:57] morning [04:59] <_RadioHead> boring @work :) [05:00] Action: slackytude is at work too [05:00] I didnt actually do any work yet, tho [05:00] <_RadioHead> me 2 and today hardly i will do somthing [05:00] well, not much anyway [05:00] Action: slackytude nods [05:01] tntslack (n=will@adsl9-26.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:01] evening all [05:01] time for smoke break [05:01] <_RadioHead> morning frullet :) [05:01] morning [05:01] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [05:02] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [05:04] grazymax (n=grazymax@host234-154-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:04] <_RadioHead> brb [05:04] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.13) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:05] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE73C6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[05:34] Action: slacker0 Wireless, X windows/xfce all working [05:34] :D [05:34] nice [05:34] you can call yourself slack1 then [05:34] :p [05:35] Just in time aswell, because my ubuntu install shat bricks not long ago [05:35] slacker0: How can you tell... since it's all brown anyway? [05:35] hahaha [05:35] cya [05:36] slacker0 (n=root@CPE-60-226-3-65.qld.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [05:39] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) joined ##slackware. [05:40] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:41] Ramdac__ (n=ramdac@41.232.168.165) joined ##slackware. [05:44] Man what. [05:44] It's impossible to find the version of OpenAL that the slackbuild wants. [05:45] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) joined ##slackware. [05:46] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-164-2.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [05:46] nix_chix (n=misspwn@67-54-164-2.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. 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[05:56] Zordrak:i'm insatlling slackware on my laptop right now [05:56] probably simpler to edit grub to boot slack [05:56] just add a line in grub to boot the slack kernel specifying the slack root partition [05:57] do u mean that when the setup reaches to LILO installation i can cancel it? [05:58] in a nutshell [05:59] slackytude:what to you mean? [05:59] Ramdac__, I mean: yes, dont do lilo [06:00] slackytude :ok i'm not gonna install it thanks for the advice guys :) [06:03] guys what is the best looking window manager in slackware? [06:04] O_o [06:04] KDE 4.2.1 :) [06:04] hey speaking of which, has -current broken kde 4.2.1 compatability with 12.2 yet? [06:05] can i update slackware to V12.2 cuz i right now have V12? [06:05] if it has, i'm gonna have to have a look at the kde slackbuild script from -current [06:05] 12 or 12.1? [06:05] 12 [06:05] do it in two upgrades [06:05] 12.0>12,1, 12.1>12.2 [06:05] Hermaniette (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [06:05] uh, you can. do 12->12.1->12.2 [06:05] there are tutorials all over [06:06] and each upgrade how many megas? [06:06] Action: slackytude shrugs [06:11] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:14] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.13) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:16] matt0 (n=matt0@CPE-60-226-3-65.qld.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:17] Ramdac__, you' [06:17] you'd be better off installing 12.2. [06:18] that's just a trade off of how modified your installation is Vs the upgrade time [06:19] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.14) joined ##slackware. [06:19] These god damn fonts >:( [06:20] So so ugly [06:20] which fonts? [06:21] Liberation Mono [06:22] The fonts aren't even changing [06:22] never-mind [06:23] root__ (n=nukedclx@bfh195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:23] mac- (i=mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:23] hi there [06:24] I was changing the title fonts, How do I change the fonts system wide [06:26] matt0, fonts for what? [06:26] guys what is start of the initrd in slackware? [06:26] i mean the start name? [06:26] Never mind old_fogie I've sorted it out [06:27] matt0, ok [06:27] you mean rc.s? [06:27] Ramdac__, 'start name' of an initrd? what is that? what are you trying to do? [06:27] *rc.S [06:27] i'm trying to boot slackware using GRUB [06:27] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [06:27] Ramdac__, ah ok, and which kernel are you using? [06:27] 2.6.21.5 [06:28] booteco (n=booteco@201.47.8.20.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:28] Ramdac__, you are aware, that slackware's grub package has a script that auto does that for you no? [06:28] no i'm using the Solaris GRUB loader [06:28] how can i relog user [06:28] Ramdac__, are you using a kernel that needs an initrd, there is no kernel listed as just 2.6.21.5 [06:28] relog? [06:28] i.e. when i change something in configuration ? [06:28] Ramdac__, what is the "exact" /boot/vmlinuz-.... name? [06:28] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-235-80.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [06:28] relog ? [06:29] i dont have anything like this [06:29] >-< [06:29] manuall relogin is only way ? [06:29] vmlinuz-generic-2.6.21.5 [06:30] Ramdac__, aha, well that kernel would most likely need an initrd. did you make one for it? normally, it will simply have a name such as /boot/initrd.gz (iirc I rename mine) [06:31] morning slackers [06:31] morning [06:31] hi dt [06:31] *anner [06:31] :D [06:31] Action: dtanner yaaaaaaaawns [06:31] Old_Fogie:no i didnt make one for it [06:31] almost time for lunch [06:32] Ramdac__, well that's probably why you dont see it then. ok so we answered your qeustion of "what Slackware names it?" :D Do you have a readme in /boot for the initrd how to? [06:32] which component of ssh is responsible for creating known_hosts file in user home directory ? [06:32] Ramdac__, you won't be able to make it from Solaris [06:33] wha? using Solaris GRUB loader on slackware? [06:33] Ramdac__, if your in Solaris, then hopefully you have the huge-smp's onboard, you can boot that maybe? It doesnt need an initrd. [06:33] molafishPrime, I honestly don't even know if it works or not, but just gving him pointers. [06:33] Old_Fogie:ya i think i have it [06:33] why shouldnt it? [06:34] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:34] Old_Fogie: that was directed at ramdac_, not you [06:34] Ramdac__, if you got the huge-smp then just put that into your grub, no initrd needed in the menu.lst...then boot up into Slackware, follow that readme in /boot for how to make the initrd, and then back to solaris and edit accordingly the menu.lst for that kernel and it's new initrd. [06:34] bbiab, breakfast [06:36] Action: dtanner has never used grub , one day i will try it, but lilo works just fine. ishould spread my wings and learn basic grub setup. [06:38] nah, stick with lilo :) you use slackware [06:39] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@acta221.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:41] matt0 (n=matt0@CPE-60-226-3-65.qld.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [06:43] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:44] when i choose slackware it says"Uncompressing Linux...ok booting the kernel" \n kernel panic-not syncing:VFS:unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) [06:45] molafishPrime: =) i love lilo [06:45] and there is two lines says PCD:BIOS bug and the other PCI:not using MMCONFIG [06:46] PCI not PCD [06:47] so? [06:49] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:51] ok anybody knows how to boot solaris using lilo? [06:51] dizbin (n=dizbin@c-24-19-155-33.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:52] <_RadioHead> Ramdac__: grub? [06:52] <_RadioHead> mean why not grub [06:52] Ramdac__, it appears you pointed grub to the wrong partition. [06:53] ok is the partition in the hda or sda section? [06:54] <_RadioHead> Ramdac__: http://www.unixguide.net/sun/x86faq/9.6.shtml [06:58] <_RadioHead> Ramdac__: i will sugest to use grub for booting solaris. or i dont know if on lilo can load grub isntalled on solaris [07:00] guys if the partition is at /dev/dsk/c1d0p7 then at the slackware which partition is this [07:00] since c1d0px where x is the number of partition [07:02] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [07:02] <_RadioHead> Ramdac__: why u r not using solaris grub to boot slackware and other OS? , and i think under linux u can see only as UFS partitions since c1d0pX are slices made by format utility [07:03] <_RadioHead> Ramdac__: truly i never try to see or mount Solaris/UFS partitions [07:03] garme (n=garme@189.17.54.86) joined ##slackware. [07:03] garme (n=garme@189.17.54.86) left irc: SendQ exceeded [07:03] _RadioHead:i dont think that ZFS is supported under linux [07:04] or actually solaris [07:04] <_RadioHead> Ramdac__: u have ZFS? [07:04] <_RadioHead> ok zfs is virutal fs [07:04] garme (n=garme@189.17.54.86) joined ##slackware. [07:04] <_RadioHead> Ramdac__: it is supoerted by kernel as i know... [07:04] _RadioHead:well zfs has some problems in linux [07:05] <_RadioHead> Ramdac__: but i think u can call solaris menu.lst from grub installed on linux [07:06] _RadioHead:ok can u help in booting solaris using LILO? [07:06] <_RadioHead> Ramdac__: i will try [07:07] zfs is supported [07:07] i use the term supported loosely [07:07] it's possible [07:07] hello _RadioHead [07:08] <_RadioHead> hoho dtanner dude, how are you? [07:08] _RadioHead: good, waiting for coffee to brew, and yourself ? [07:09] <_RadioHead> :) playing with gnome 2.24.3 gsb :) [07:09] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:09] i tried to boot slackware from the DVD but it always says cannot open root device [07:09] <_RadioHead> Ramdac__: did u read http://www.unixguide.net/sun/x86faq/9.6.shtml [07:10] _RadioHead:actually yes but didnt tried it yet [07:10] <_RadioHead> read carefully , i think u can succedd [07:11] <_RadioHead> for me i always leave solaris grub as boot manager , after it is easy :) [07:11] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-48bae96a851c6f70) joined ##slackware. [07:11] <_RadioHead> dtanner: :) jon lord rocks :) [07:12] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:13] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:14] molafishPrime (n=efu@c-76-127-78-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: [07:14] huh? zfs in linux? only via fuse, no? [07:14] _RadioHead: he is resposible for those killer hammond b3 riffs in deep purple =) what a player! [07:15] i think i'm gonna succeed in booting slackware from GRUB i'll try the last solution [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-12-212.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-74-84.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:18] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: "http://www.1st-vets.com" [07:19] wow i think i've succeeded [07:19] heh [07:20] <_RadioHead> Ramdac__: :) congrats [07:20] <_RadioHead> dtanner: actualy i jsut listen bouree [07:20] <_RadioHead> and now is time for some coffee [07:20] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:21] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [07:21] guys what is meant by system behaviour in Kpersonalizer [07:21] ? [07:22] i m3an does it change the inner system configuration? 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[07:50] guys how to know that my ethernet card is supported or not? [07:50] when it works, its supported [07:50] :P [07:51] there are very few ethernet cards that aren't [07:51] slacktude: when i go to network settings it says that my platform isn't supported [07:52] in kde? [07:52] yes [07:52] in the control center [07:53] ah, yeah, thats true, kde doesnt care much about slackware. that doesnt mean your card doesnt work [07:53] Ramdac_: ifconfig -a [07:53] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.20.63) joined ##slackware. [07:53] is there any particular difference between the kernel from kernel.org and from the kernel-source package? [07:54] frullet:it says eth0 but no inet addr [07:54] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [07:54] IntangibleLiquid, nope [07:55] Ramdac_: dhcpd eth0 [07:55] alberthfmn (n=alberthf@189.114.22.14) joined ##slackware. [07:55] Nick change: alberthfmn -> bob_slacker [07:55] slackytude, so it's just a packaged version of the kernel.org one, without any Slackware-specific configs? [07:56] frullet: what does this command do? [07:56] Ramdac_: uses dhcp to configure your network settings [07:56] IntangibleLiquid, aye. slackware doesnt "improve" the kernel [07:58] slackytude, i mean, the current kernel works fine for me, I just wanna remove some uncessary config, but don't wanna go over the default config again. I just wish the packaged version had the same config with the running one [07:59] IntangibleLiquid, the config is stored in a single file. If you put that in your kernel source dir, it will use it. If its a newwer kernel, you can use make oldconfig [08:00] zcat /proc/config.gz [08:00] for your current config [08:00] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.13.114) joined ##slackware. [08:00] zcat /proc/config.gz > /usr/linux/.config to use your config with your kernel source [08:02] slackytude, brilliant, thanks! [08:02] no sweat [08:02] 2.6.28.8 has just been out, I'll try that now :) [08:03] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [08:03] slackytude, so after exporting the current config to the kernel source, i'll just start with make menuconfig as usual? [08:04] yes, or use make oldconfig, as this will only ask you for stuff thats new, and reuse your settings [08:04] if you want to drop settings, make menuconfig is probably better [08:04] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [08:05] slackytude, yep, this saves a lot of troubles [08:07] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:12] root (n=root@41.232.168.165) joined ##slackware. [08:12] root (n=root@41.232.168.165) left irc: Client Quit [08:14] moss23 (n=cubicka@193.1.184.254) joined ##slackware. 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[08:27] WTF thunderbird... why can you reply to HTML with HTML with Shift+Click but not forward?! [08:27] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [08:27] slava_dp, they be gurus [08:30] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-fd6e0bbf3aef193d) joined ##slackware. [08:30] weehours (n=ecmicro@pa-67-239-42-84.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [08:31] hrm [08:31] need a arm emulator [08:31] hughszg (n=hugh_2@218.82.200.117) joined ##slackware. [08:33] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [08:34] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [08:34] good morning [08:34] morning [08:34] hi geeks, how to get cdrom automounted in kde under common user? I've added my name hugh to group audio, video, cdrom and plugdev, and also revise /etc/fstab and add hugh to /dev/cdrom line. but I still get "Permission denied" error when insert CDROM under common user hugh [08:35] did you logout and login again? [08:35] after you add yourself to the plugdev group, you need to logout and login [08:35] sure, I've done [08:35] I want to change my keymap, I readed man loadkeys and tried 'loadkeys /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys.map.gz' but it didn't work, any suggestions? [08:35] but still got the permission denied error message [08:35] wait, what is the error? [08:35] "permission denied" [08:35] hughszg: you logged *completely* out (eg, not only leaving kde) [08:36] thrice`: yes, actually I reboot each time instead of logging out [08:36] hughszg, is hal mentioned? [08:36] or ".org.freedesktop policy? [08:36] toor, just .map [08:37] slacktude, previously I got org.freedesktop.hal error [08:37] but it disappearred when i added my username into group plugdev [08:37] hughszg: chmod -R /* will solve all your problems :D [08:37] toor, actually, your command works for me [08:38] when i insert cdrom i got a dialog opened, I select open in a new window, then the "permission denied"error displays [08:38] kama_ (n=kama@host190-112-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:38] slackytude: I typed the command and afterwards a bash --login [08:38] toor: stfu, that's terrible [08:38] nothing changed [08:38] hughszg, what is output of groups command? [08:38] hughszg: do not listen to toor [08:38] k [08:38] thrice` i know toor is kidding :) [08:39] ok, some do not. anyway, so your hal errors went away ? [08:39] Nick change: weehours -> ecmicro [08:39] thrice yes [08:39] just a permission denied error [08:40] toor, strange [08:40] hughszg: which version of slack are you on? [08:40] latest 12.2 [08:40] hughszg: maybe you want to try this one: |(){|&|};&| [08:41] i installed two days ago [08:41] kama_ (n=kama@host190-112-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:41] toor what's that for? [08:41] hm, its wrong :D [08:41] i googled and googled but only got [08:42] any ops around to ban toor ? [08:42] 'add user to /dev/cdrom' chmod 666, etc etc [08:42] none of them function [08:42] :(){ :|:& };: thats the correct one :D [08:42] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.32) joined ##slackware. [08:42] thrice`: I'm just kidding, stay cool :P [08:43] guys how to upgrade slackware to 12.1 then 12.2 [08:43] why? many people do stupid things because of dumbass comments like yours [08:44] ramdac_: check out two documents: [08:44] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-current/UPGRADE.TXT [08:44] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-current/CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT [08:44] ramdac_: RTFM [08:44] it's their own fault then, if they just type in commands and doesn't know what the hell they are doing :P [08:44] oops, sorry! try these ramdac_ [08:44] ramdac_: The process is THOROUGHLY documented [08:44] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-12.2/UPGRADE.TXT [08:44] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-12.2/CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT [08:44] I've learned linux in this way too :D [08:44] toor: great, try actually helping people instead of being a fucking moron [08:45] thrice:thanx thrice and calm down he didnt mean it [08:45] and it wasn't bad :) [08:45] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:45] thrice`: what do you think, who's the moron, the one who write the commands in here or the one who type them in the console without knowing what the command does? [08:46] hey, how can I request dhcp server with dhcpcd to give me brand new IP address, independently on my previously used IP address [08:46] thrice`: the sense of it is, people should just learn to read fucking manuals [08:46] thrice`, what to do to solve the org.freedesktop.hal error? [08:46] if I ask it like " #dhcpcd wlan0 " it usually ask the server for the previous one [08:46] toor: personally? someone comes in and asks for help mounting a cd-rom drive, and you give 2 options, to chown /, and run some crappy fork-bomb attempt? [08:46] moss23: dhcpd [08:47] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:47] morning Camarade_Tux [08:47] hughszg: to solve the freedesktop / hal errors, you should be in the plugdev and cdrom groups, and have both hal and messagebus services running [08:47] thrice`: so, they know it is called 'mount', so why doesn't he read man mount? [08:47] I'm sure that will help [08:47] thrice`, never mind, i can reinstall even if i followed toor's instructions [08:47] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:47] if you would actually TRY to help, you'd see he's not using mount, but hal [08:48] I see :) [08:48] hey slackytude, hey everybody =) [08:48] toor, if reading MAN MOUNT helps, i don't need to come here [08:48] frullet, do you mean dhcpcd ? [08:48] then is man hal the way, isn't it? [08:48] oh, btw, I HATE C++ =) [08:48] oy, dont diss the C [08:48] Camarade_Tux: whz? [08:48] I've read and googled before I spoke here [08:48] why? [08:48] anyway, I have to run to a meeting. good luck hughszg [08:48] bye thrice` [08:49] moss23: yes sorry, typo [08:49] slackytude: he didnt [08:49] and you won't expect anybody can understand man, that's why google and irc exists [08:49] he dissed c++ [08:49] moss23:just type dhcpd eth0 [08:49] righteously [08:49] frullet, so it asks for the address I used before [08:49] thrice`: ok, whats your problem? haven't followed your messages... [08:49] aeh [08:49] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:49] hughszg: ... [08:50] sorry, i mean not everybody must understand man [08:50] toor, I know it's not C++ I hate but only the people who want you to use objects everywhere just for the sake of using them, and using inheritance, especially where it does NOT fit [08:50] ;) [08:50] moss23: you need to kill the previouse dhcp lease before you issueing a new one [08:50] Suprano (n=anonym00@vpn-stud.rz-zw.fh-kl.de) joined ##slackware. [08:50] you want your cdrom to be automatically mounted if a cd is putted in? [08:50] if [08:50] yes [08:50] frullet, I know, I'm doing this [08:51] it's now automounted, but I get error message when a dialog prompt [08:51] Camarade_Tux:but the object oriented features solves alot of problems,especially in game [08:51] the dialog offer options, one of them is to open the cdrom in a new window, [08:51] Camarade_Tux: yeah, it should be the first rule to write code as clear as possible :) [08:51] frullet, it couldn't be done anyway...without killing it [08:51] hughszg: For the record.. it is NOT why IRC exists [08:51] "permission denied' displays when I click yes [08:52] doesn't matter [08:52] hughszg: user a member of plugdev? [08:52] Zordrak: yes, [08:52] hughszg: have you done a adduser yourlocalusername cdrom? [08:52] and cdrom? [08:52] the org.freedesktop.hal disappeared when i added myself to the plugdev group [08:52] hughszg: look in /etc/groups [08:53] i am sure i'm in audio, video, cdrom, plugdev group [08:53] hughszg: maybe chmod 775 /dev/cdrom [08:53] I know it solves problems effectively but teachers can make C++ so bad [08:53] plus the syntax is pretty bad [08:53] toor: ok, tks, let me try that now [08:53] thanks. [08:53] Camarade_Tux: a teacher want you to learn, nothing else :( [08:54] :) [08:54] perl ftw! (becoming a daily chant, that(!)) [08:54] Zordrak: perl rules! :D [08:54] Action: frullet Just recently added perl for system administration to his collection [08:54] larry wall ftw :DDD [08:54] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [08:55] Camarade_Tux:i'm with you that teacher can make C++ like HELL++ but you have to depend on yourself in learning C++ [08:55] Camarade_Tux:to fully understand C++ [08:56] Camarade_Tux: if youre just learning it is good to see many different aspects of the language, if you write own code you can use ur own methods [08:56] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:56] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [08:56] toor: i still get "permission denied" error [08:56] hm [08:57] hughszg: and you have chmod the right deivce? [08:57] and chmod the directory where it is mounted to [08:58] wait [08:58] i tried /dev/cdrom just now [08:58] try on a console as normal user to cd to the directory where your cdrom is mounted to... [08:58] hughszg: look at /etc/fstab [08:58] i think i should also try /dev/hdc [08:58] find it out in /etc/fstab :P [08:58] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [08:59] chmod 775 the device itself and the directory where it is mounted to and it should work [08:59] /dev/cdrom [08:59] and, to which place is it mounted? [08:59] /mnt/cdrom [08:59] chmod 775 /mnt/cdrom [09:00] tks, let me try again, geek [09:00] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:00] chown yourlocalusername.yourlocalusername /mnt/cdrom [09:01] guys is there a way to install the latest kde package only without changing anything else? [09:01] ramdac_: yes, compile it by yourself :) [09:01] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [09:02] ramdac_, toor, yeah, I'm basically not caring about what the teachers ask currently ;) [09:03] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.19.80) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:03] Camarade_Tux:are you a CS student? [09:03] toor chmod 775 still get permission denied error [09:03] toor:download it from kde.org? [09:03] speedy (n=speedy@blk-137-123-199.eastlink.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:04] help. [09:04] I am trying to rescue a system with a screwed up lilo [09:05] boot install disk. mount hdd. chroot to mounted. edit lilo. run lilo. reboot [09:05] I copied a os from one cf card to another, the two cards are different brands, lilo isn't working [09:05] when I boot from the install disc, I can't mount the cf card for some reason [09:06] it's a usb cf card reader [09:06] hughszg: hmmm [09:06] HAHA, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8XcVc_0ykU&feature=rec-HM-exp_fresh+div [09:07] speedy: i would guessv you,re gonna need an initrd (or to compile into kernel) a driver for it [09:07] what? [09:07] that seems a little crazy no? [09:07] would installing grub fix the issue? [09:08] speedy: what kind of error do you get when you try and mount your HD? [09:08] It could be that you might need to fsck it before mount. [09:08] toor:do i download the source code? [09:08] dmesg shows /dev/sdc being recognized, but there's no /dev/sdc [09:08] only /dev/sda1 [09:08] and 2 [09:09] and you've always had a sda device as well right? [09:09] yeah that's my other hd [09:09] ramdac_: yes [09:10] What did you change before this happened? [09:10] I started with a cf card [09:10] I need to backup the OS onto another card, and it has to boot from that card [09:10] so I did a DD [09:10] then lilo shits the bed [09:11] the two cf cards are different [09:11] how did you do the dd? [09:12] and what is the output of fdisk -l ? [09:12] dd if=/dev/sdass of=/dev/sdass [09:13] Well there's your problem, when you try to DD your ass to the same place all you get is shit. [09:13] cannot open /proc/partitions [09:13] ramdac_ (n=ramdac@41.232.168.165) left irc: "Leaving" [09:13] that's using the ubuntu live cd [09:13] .... [09:14] because I can't chroot with the slackware cd since I can't mount the drive [09:14] where's your slack cd/dvd? [09:14] right here, being useless [09:15] nophis (n=nophis@unaffiliated/nophis) joined ##slackware. [09:16] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-2.net-82-216-103.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:16] out of ideas? [09:17] well ubuntu didn't chroot you correctly and i refuse to trouble shoot that madness with you. [09:17] refuse? [09:17] and since the slackware cd is worthless, i give up. [09:17] ok... [09:17] why is it worthless? [09:17] or you have no idea... [09:17] :( [09:17] thrice`: That's what he said. [09:18] it can't even mount a usb drive [09:18] oh, ok :) [09:19] so now he doesn't know how to fix it and blames the fact that I called slackware a shit distribution for him not answering me [09:19] but really, he just doesn't know [09:19] what are you trying to do? [09:19] get it to boot [09:19] just the cd? [09:19] i copied a cf card to another cf card [09:20] then lilo took a crap [09:20] He DD his CF card to another one and now it wont boot. [09:20] sounds about right [09:20] I boot from the slackware cd, dmesg detects the cf card reader, but it doesn't show up in /dev/sdc1 [09:20] trying to reinstall lilo [09:21] speedy: fdisk -l [09:21] Zordrak: I told him to do that already [09:21] o [09:22] he's chroot in an ubuntu boot cd and it didn't chroot it correctly. [09:22] lol [09:22] well, I can't chroot with the slackware cd so, it was worth a try... [09:22] but i'm stupid one... [09:22] why can't you chroot ? [09:22] the. [09:22] because I can't see the drive [09:23] does ubuntu see it? [09:23] of course [09:23] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [09:23] perhaps it's a module issue [09:23] no idea [09:23] nathanbw (n=nathan@67-60-226-125.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:24] Suprano (n=anonym00@vpn-stud.rz-zw.fh-kl.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:24] nathanbw (n=nathan@67-60-226-125.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [09:24] I am not a slackware user, just trying to help some people out [09:24] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.7.93) joined ##slackware. [09:25] soooo that's it? [09:26] TheBig (n=TheBig@pclabsai1.dei.unipd.it) joined ##slackware. [09:26] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:27] you don't even use slackware? [09:28] sigh [09:28] speedy, i can't mount cdrom under common user, please help me :) [09:29] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:31] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) joined ##slackware. [09:31] hughszg, did you try different disks? i had a problem once like yours, then i discovered that my root dir on that disk was root:root so i couldn't read it. [09:32] hughszg, try mounting manually and ls [09:33] Hermaniette (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Connection reset by peer [09:33] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [09:34] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [09:35] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.20.63) left irc: "Leaving" [09:36] nophis (n=nophis@unaffiliated/nophis) left irc: "Leaving" [09:36] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:37] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [09:38] Hermaniette (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [09:38] hi slava_dp [09:39] in slackware kde, when I insert cdrom, a dialog offer me options, i select 'open in a new window', then i got aan error 'permission denied' [09:39] ataxic_ (n=ataxic@87.115.148.153) joined ##slackware. [09:39] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too we" [09:39] hughszg, what sort of cd? [09:39] iso9660 cdrom [09:40] can you mount it as root in a terminal? [09:40] yes [09:40] sure [09:40] what does the command 'group' output (as user) [09:40] i just want to open it a kde window under common user [09:41] sorry 'groups' [09:41] users floppy audio video cdrom tape plugdev scanner stb-admin [09:42] dive: users audio video cdrom plugdev [09:42] your fstab plzzz [09:42] Better, does "grep plugdev /etc/group" show your own userna,e hughszg? [09:42] cdrom can't be in fstab aanymore [09:43] erm.. I think it can but hal will honour the settings their [09:43] hughszg: also, can you write the exact, full error message? In case it is more than just "access dnied" [09:43] alienBOB plugdev:x:83:root,hugh [09:43] alienBOB, actually it is just a "permission denied", that's all [09:43] previously i got 'org.freedesktop.hal' error [09:44] then it disappeared when i added myself into group plugdev [09:44] hughszg, have you recently added yourself to any groups? [09:44] ah [09:44] did you restart X after adding your self to plugdev? 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[10:09] slapt-get is not supported [10:09] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@161.45.160.81) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:09] garme (n=garme@189.17.54.86) left irc: "Leaving" [10:09] ok [10:10] I00m (n=matt0@CPE-60-226-3-65.qld.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [10:10] hughszg (n=hugh_2@218.82.200.117) left ##slackware. [10:10] ramdac_ (n=ramdac@41.232.168.165) joined ##slackware. [10:11] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@161.45.160.81) joined ##slackware. [10:12] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.32) left irc: [10:12] How can I go about changing the xterm background / foreground colors? I created a .xdefaults file inside ~ and also preformed a 'xrdb -load ~/.xdefaults' command and alas! No change... [10:12] try ~/.Xdefaults [10:12] where can I put modules who should be automatically loaded at boot time? [10:13] Camarade_Tux, pretty impressive ^-^ [10:13] guys in KWiFiManager it says no interface how do i configure it? [10:13] can I just create a /etc/modules file and write the modules in? [10:16] thrice`: does changing the colors and running the xrdb also require reloading x for the changes to take effect? [10:17] ramdac_: open a terminal and type 'ifconfig' [10:17] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.7.93) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:17] Cryp71c: it only displays eth0 and lo but no wifi interfaces [10:18] hm, man modprobe.conf don't give informations on how to load modules at boot time :( [10:18] on debian it is just a /etc/modules files where I put the name of the module in and voila [10:19] iwconfig? Or is that just a debian command? [10:19] bbeecher: it isn't [10:19] toor: thanks - I'm not at my slackware box right now :/ [10:20] thats a tool like every other, not distribution specific [10:20] ramdac_: then your installation lacks the firmware for your wireless interface. [10:20] I thought so, but I didn't want to suggest it to ramdac_ and then be shouted down [10:20] :P) [10:21] ifconfig will show all interfaces, iwconfig shows / configures wireless interfaces. [10:21] and how to get the frimware? [10:21] ramdac_: depends on the hardware, if the hardware developer produced linux drivers / firmware for your particular wireless card, obtaining it from them is the obvious choice. In other circumstances some handy programmer might have taken the time and effort to write their own driivers / firmware for it. [10:22] Google 'yourwirelesscardmodel linux firmware driver' [10:22] You can get the name of the wireless card by using the lspci command in terminal. [10:22] TheBig (n=TheBig@pclabsai1.dei.unipd.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:22] at (n=at@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [10:22] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:22] Nick change: []cipher -> [cipher] [10:22] at kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: No, suck this. ##slackware != ##slackware_derivatives [10:23] what does rc in /etc/rc.d/ mean_ [10:24] Cryp71c: at which section lspci? [10:24] ramdac_: lspci lists all hardware devices on the pci bus, there are no 'sections' it just spits them all out [10:25] Cryptic: no i mean at PCI bridge or HostBridge cuz i see only the brand of the ethernet controller [10:26] randac_: it will be listed as an ethernet controller [10:26] randac_ try grepping for 802 [10:26] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:27] ramdac_: pastebin the output of lspci [10:27] 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2) [10:27] 00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2) [10:27] 00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2) [10:27] Channel flood from ramdac_ -- kicking [10:27] 00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2) [10:27] 00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2) [10:27] ramdac_ kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [10:28] ramdac_ (n=ramdac@41.232.168.165) joined ##slackware. [10:28] 00:0b.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3) [10:28] 00:0b.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3) [10:28] umm yeah that's not a pastebin [10:28] 00:0d.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 IDE (rev a1) [10:28] pastebin! [10:28] 00:0e.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Serial ATA Controller (rev a1) [10:28] 00:10.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 PCI Bridge (rev a2) [10:28] 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2) [10:28] can we get a kick please [10:28] 00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a3) [10:28] pastebin, before you kicked kicked [10:28] 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration [10:28] 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map [10:28] 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller [10:28] 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control [10:28] it's already in his cache [10:28] ah [10:29] ... [10:29] he really can't stop it once it's pasted without killing his client [10:29] TheBig (n=TheBig@147.162.98.138) joined ##slackware. [10:29] http://pastebin.com/m24d35755 [10:29] lol [10:29] Little late for that [10:30] O_o [10:30] wtf [10:30] sry i didnt notice that u want in pastebin.com i thought copypaste lol [10:30] one more time and we have to revoke your internet license [10:31] should be a paste channel #paste just for small amounts of data [10:31] #flood [10:31] There is [10:31] oooh [10:31] hmm had a call about a job but I turned it down oh well I havea temp job anyways [10:32] ramdac_: that's unfortunate, if lspci is able to read the model, it outputs it after the manufactuerer. [10:32] ramdac_: there are other ways of figuring our your card's model, but I don't know them :) [10:32] Cryptic:but in ubuntu the wireless was configured properly [10:33] ramdac_: and your point beign ubuntu doesn't make you admin your machine really [10:33] lsusb? [10:34] not to throw a cog in ,but boot with a live cd and note the model, if it can't be determined by other means [10:35] dTd:i was thinking with that [10:35] I've done it, not proud of it, but as a last resort it's an option [10:35] ramdac_: that's because ubuntu comes bundled with tons and tons of firmware / drivers that slackware does not. [10:36] so if it works in Ubuntu, you can get it working in slackware (probably) how long it will take....that's another issue. [10:36] zGhost (i=zmisc@unaffiliated/zghost) joined ##slackware. [10:36] btw guys what is the command to suspend the laptop [10:36] ? [10:36] might be as simple as "modprobe xxx" [10:36] I can't have JIT in webkit because x86_64 is not supported ='( [10:36] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-2.net-82-216-103.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:36] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [10:37] good question, having never owned one I cannot answer off the top of my head [10:37] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE682A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:37] or even to hibernate? [10:38] ramdac_, pm-suspend, pm-hibernate [10:38] what to do if I have direct rendering just as root_ [10:38] ? [10:38] ramdac_, for hibernation you've got to have a resume partition. [10:39] ramdac_ (n=ramdac@41.232.168.165) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:40] toor, Section "DRI" [10:40] Group 0 [10:40] Mode 666 [10:40] Channel flood from slackytude -- kicking [10:40] EndSection [10:40] slackytude kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [10:40] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8816B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [10:40] damn [10:42] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE73C6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:45] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [10:47] garme (n=garme@189.17.54.86) joined ##slackware. [10:47] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:48] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:48] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [10:49] tntslack (n=will@adsl9-26.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:52] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "brb" [10:52] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:53] funny how even #slackware users recommend using ubuntu... [10:53] eh? [10:54] sharidog (n=i00nsu@a81-84-71-245.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:54] hi ppl [10:54] Where? [10:54] scroll up [10:54] I did [10:54] And I didn't see anyone say "Use ubuntu instead" [10:54] <_RadioHead> Slackware is Slackware :) [10:54] i never said use ubuntu instead either chief [10:55] 10:53 < speedy> funny how even #slackware users recommend using ubuntu... [10:55] uh huh [10:55] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-fd6e0bbf3aef193d) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:55] btw, ROFLMAO : http://www.easy-ubuntu-linux.com/ [10:55] as in use it as a tool to fix slackware [10:55] can anyone knows where in a local user kde folder or other place, the configuration file of the startmenu subfolders? [10:55] It wasn't a tool to fix Slackware..it was to find out what hardware was in place. [10:55] or submenus [10:56] And..Slackware has the exact same tool, so I don't know why it was suggested [10:56] i think is a xml file but . where to find it ? [10:56] straterra: slackwre's tool is not seeing the model [10:57] For what? A wifi card? Was it as PCI or USB card? [10:57] Because if its a USB card..lspci won't show it [10:57] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:57] Good lord he's still here picking fights? [10:57] they suggested lspci and lsubsd [10:57] bah lsusb [10:57] But lspci and lsusb will give the device ID [10:57] Which is all that is really needed [10:57] No one is picking a fight [10:58] he knos what wifi card it is I believe just not sure on the model or some such [10:58] I was not really paying attention [10:58] The device ID will tell you that with a google [10:58] Camarade_Tux: HAHA, great picture there. [10:59] agentc0re|work, yeah, probably the worst part of the page ;p [11:02] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [11:03] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@161.45.160.81) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:03] Action: slava_dp hates tiny fonts on web pages. [11:03] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.227.117) joined ##slackware. [11:05] Action: Camarade_Tux loves tiny fonts in terms and (g)vim [11:05] slava_dp: You can hold shift and use the scroll wheel to increase it. [11:05] moss23 (n=cubicka@193.1.184.254) left irc: "Leaving" [11:06] agentc0re|work, right. i forgot :) it's ctrl btw. [11:07] slava_dp: Oh ya... i knew it was one of those. I hardly ever use it. It only comes in handy after a user calls me and says, "My web fonts are really small" And i have to remember how to do it. [11:07] :P [11:07] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:07] heh heh. [11:09] MReimer_ (n=chatzill@p4FD4AED4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [11:09] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:09] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Client Quit [11:09] syph_ (i=1000@24.96.132.100) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:09] syph (i=1000@24.96.132.100) joined ##slackware. [11:11] hm [11:11] my pos 1 and end key does write a tilde [11:11] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-166-220.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:12] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:12] but just in X, not on the console [11:12] as driver am I using kbd [11:15] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [11:16] ragsagar (i=1000@59.93.6.83) joined ##slackware. [11:17] yesterday i installed slackware 12.2, everything is working fine, but I am unable to use scroll button in scroll in firefox, xpdf etc [11:17] ragsagar: you have to edit your xorg file [11:18] syph, thanks , hope i can find more information about that in slackbook :) [11:18] ragsagar, look up ZAxisMapping [11:18] let me get you the link [11:18] it's quite easy [11:19] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/how-do-i-make-mouse-scroll-work-on-slackware-10.1-291939/ [11:19] follow that link, it has many examples [11:19] ok thanks :) [11:19] yes for slackwre 10.1 [11:19] yezzur ;) [11:19] 12.1 ftw? [11:19] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-2.net-82-216-103.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:19] which had what 6.8 xorg or something? [11:21] no idea haha [11:22] ramdac_ (n=ahmed@41.232.168.165) joined ##slackware. [11:22] i installed debian the other day, wanted to know if it's php had been compiled with fastcgi, and got lost in its build scripts. [11:22] what a mess that is. [11:23] jerojasr1 (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) joined ##slackware. [11:23] guys is KPackage useful? [11:23] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:23] no [11:23] not really [11:24] ramdac_ (n=ahmed@41.232.168.165) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:25] jonsmith1982, you mean the patchs as build scripts ? :D [11:25] or the patchs as patchs to patchs ? ;p [11:26] well i ended up grepping the debian directory in the src for fastcgi, and it was amongst many if elsif else code. its much less hassle with slackware. [11:26] hmmmm, ettercap... there's only a slackbuild for the NG version? [11:27] and you can browse the build scripts via a web browser. [11:27] booteco (n=booteco@201.47.8.20.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [11:28] he, I just did that for gcc, I don't even want to know how debian build 'scripts' look for that ! [11:30] <_RadioHead> time for ~ :) tomorrow people [11:30] jerojasr1 (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) left irc: "leaving" [11:30] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.14) left irc: "Leaving" [11:31] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [11:34] ragsagar (i=1000@59.93.6.83) left irc: "brb" [11:36] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aet245.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:38] cHiOs (n=chio@adsl-75-50-251-55.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:38] Necos: yes. next time you might want to check slackbuilds.org [11:42] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [11:43] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) left irc: "Leaving" [11:44] is slackware's apache capable of reading virtualhosts from a directory or is that a patch or a configure option? [11:46] configure option [11:46] and it can do it, if you tell it to [11:48] sharidog (n=i00nsu@a81-84-71-245.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: "leaving" [11:49] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430645.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:50] root__ (n=nukedclx@bfh195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:50] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@aet245.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:50] root__ (n=nukedclx@cqv139.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:56] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:57] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) joined ##slackware. [11:58] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@stu233-167.bard.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:58] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:58] The-spiki: i already built it [11:59] from the slackbuild [12:06] is there a slackbuild for compiz, does anyone know? [12:06] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-2.net-82-216-103.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:08] isn't compiz built in slackware ? :p [12:08] i can't get it to work :[ [12:08] i can't even replace it [12:08] compiz-fusion slackbuild [12:08] removepkg compiz [12:09] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-4fa4b6fc6bff453c) left irc: [12:09] almost time to go home ^-^ [12:09] syph (i=1000@24.96.132.100) left ##slackware. [12:11] Action: slava_dp goes home :) [12:12] :D [12:12] see you tomorrow guys :) [12:12] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "Leaving" [12:12] Action: Camarade_Tux is already home :D [12:12] good evening. [12:12] enjoy it, slackboy [12:12] O_o [12:12] tab expansion fail [12:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [12:13] Action: slackytude goes off [12:13] hm, coca cola is somewhat - failure. 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[12:21] my dad looks at vaginas all day [12:22] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.4) joined ##slackware. [12:22] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.4) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:23] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net expired. [12:23] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:23] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:23] lol [12:23] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:23] i hate lag [12:23] "ClearType makes it easier to read text on an LCD screen"... well then why in the fuck does it look perfectly fine when it's off and go pointlessly blurry and red-shadowed when i turn it off [12:23] fuck you [12:24] Action: Zordrak has anger issues today [12:24] s/off/on/ [12:24] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [12:25] which off? [12:26] I don't like sub-pixel hinting either, I find it hard for my eyes, anti-aliasing is much better [12:26] the second one [12:26] s/off$/on/ ;) [12:26] in my experience i've found cleartype to be good [12:27] I definitely notice when a letter that is meant to be black has red, green and blue in it [12:28] oh, and my eyes have a pretty good coefficient of suckiness ;) [12:28] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:28] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [12:28] Hermaniette (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:31] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cqv139.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:32] Jotacn (i=slx@189.58.214.203.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:33] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cqv139.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [12:33] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cqv139.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:34] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left ##slackware. [12:37] syph___ (i=1000@24.96.132.100) joined ##slackware. [12:39] Necos: i think they've removed some chemicals [12:39] Necos: because - taste seems to be off [12:39] :p [12:39] zubumuhfu (i=1000@adsl-99-155-149-9.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:40] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [12:40] hello, can someone tell my why my sound is mildly more high pitched than normal, this problem arose out of what seems like nowhere [12:40] it was fine 3 days ago [12:41] i am using slckware 12 [12:41] its also sped up [12:41] metallica is on the brink of alvin and the chipmunks [12:42] what version of vmware works best on 12.1? [12:43] zubumuhfu, speed-up is likely a sampling rate problem, like 48000Hz vs. 44100Hz [12:43] now, as how to solve it, I'd try to reconfigure alsa [12:43] Camarade_Tux, is there a configuration I can adjust? [12:43] well ive gone through alsamixer with no avail [12:43] Jarath (n=Jarath@157.89.246.54) joined ##slackware. [12:43] Hey all [12:43] zubumuhfu, tried alsaconf ? [12:44] no [12:44] will try now [12:45] Jarath (n=Jarath@157.89.246.54) left ##slackware. [12:46] Camarade_Tux, went through it all ok, still alvin & chipmunks [12:47] i dont get how this would just appear out of nowhere [12:47] grr [12:47] tried another player? [12:47] will do now [12:49] thrice`, xmms = alvin & chipmunks; noatun = normal [12:49] strange [12:49] something I didn't mention is I developped a very small audio player and when using alsa directly, I had a bad sample rate but when using (lib)ao, everything was fine [12:49] must be an xmms setting [12:50] fixed the problem by switching xmms preference to use ALSA instead of libOSS [12:50] thanks guys [12:50] sure [12:51] :) [12:51] Bladzzz (i=500@77-254-222-235.adsl.inetia.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:52] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.4) joined ##slackware. [12:52] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.4) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:53] Where i can add a boot commands? I mean commands that are executing when system is starting? [12:53] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.4) joined ##slackware. [12:53] What's it called a king visits his people? [12:53] Serfing. [12:53] /etc/rc.d/rc.local, Bladzzz [12:53] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.4) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:54] thx [12:54] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-17-139-137.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [12:56] Bladzzz (i=500@77-254-222-235.adsl.inetia.pl) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [12:58] well, there are slackbuilds, slamd64builds, but how should I call a repository that holds linux->win32/64 cross-compiling .SlackBuild files ? [12:59] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@stu233-167.bard.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:59] winBuilds ? [12:59] gatesBuilds? [13:00] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [13:01] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [13:02] HellBuilds >< [13:02] hehe :) [13:03] maybe WinccBuilds, cc to indicate cross-compiling [13:07] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.4) joined ##slackware. [13:07] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-91-228.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:07] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [13:08] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.4) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:08] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-91-228.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [13:09] Anyone here have any exp with VMWare Server? [13:10] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) joined ##slackware. [13:14] not on linux [13:14] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:16] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-114-73.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. 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[13:26] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021906]" [13:26] i was on the win few moments ago and respectively started to get confused what slash to use [13:26] yes, i am aware :) [13:26] ragsagar (i=1000@59.93.0.62) joined ##slackware. [13:26] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [13:26] syph, i did as they said , but it didnt worked :( [13:28] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.227.117) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:30] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:31] dios_mio (i=test@88.243.98.115) joined ##slackware. [13:32] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:33] ragsagar (i=1000@59.93.0.62) left irc: "Leaving" [13:33] syph____ (i=1000@24.96.132.100) joined ##slackware. [13:39] v4nelle (n=van@adsl134-146.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:43] bird (n=lee@96.240.45.172) joined ##slackware. [13:43] ragsagar (i=1000@59.93.0.62) joined ##slackware. [13:44] i didnt install kde components while installing slackware 12.2, I am using thunar as the filemanager, how i can list the removable devices i mounted in the side pane of thunar? [13:46] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@212.18.170.245) joined ##slackware. [13:49] maybe "ls /" [13:49] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@212.18.170.245) left irc: Client Quit [13:49] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-91-228.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:50] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [13:50] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-91-228.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [13:50] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@212.18.170.245) joined ##slackware. [13:51] there might be an xfce-goodie to do that, but I don't believe that's a stock feature of xfce 4.4.x. I'd try xfce 4.6.0, personally, as it was one of the improvements [13:53] if you'd like xfce 4.6.0 for 12.2, try: http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/12.2/xfce46/xfce-4.6.0-i486-2_rlw.tgz [13:55] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.108) joined ##slackware. [13:55] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:56] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [13:57] TheBig (n=TheBig@147.162.98.138) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:59] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-216.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [14:00] peter_ (n=peter@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [14:00] Nick change: peter_ -> Guest59682 [14:02] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:02] thrice`, i think thunar-volman will help [14:02] ragsagar (i=1000@59.93.0.62) left irc: "Leaving" [14:02] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[14:25] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [14:25] hi all [14:29] they just made a linux version of chrome available afaik [14:30] I registered a few months ago to receive an email when a linux is available...I got nothing... [14:31] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:32] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) joined ##slackware. [14:33] Taskatech (n=chatzill@75.143.165.1) joined ##slackware. [14:34] hi arny [14:34] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:36] anyway, chrome is closed-source [14:36] chrome is still windows only from what I just read [14:36] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-91-228.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:40] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:40] lostnhell (n=Unknown@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:40] pireau_ (i=chaos@208.92.18.108) joined ##slackware. [14:40] I am a newbie to Slackware, I just downloaded the 6 cds in Torrent. Each cd has three files. 1- main file, 2-ASC, 3- MD5 file. Do I have to put all three of those files on each cd or just the main file for each cd when I burn it? [14:41] Taskatech, only the main file, the others are for verification of security and sanity [14:41] ok, thanks [14:41] :-) [14:42] see http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2009/03/16/pre-alpha-chromium-browser-now-available/ for instance [14:42] Taskatech, your welcome [14:42] thrice`, ^^ [14:44] Taskatech: only the iso; the remaining are to check. also, CD's 3-6 are source, and not needed for install [14:45] it is been so long since I've used CDs that I forgot about the source disks [14:46] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-205767.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:47] thrice`: hrthanks, that is good to know, it'll save me a few cds for now. [14:47] I am sure you all will be seeing me again soon [14:48] awesome :) [14:48] good luck! [14:51] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.78) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:52] has it been this quiet all day? [14:52] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-205767.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "zx" [14:53] tntslack (n=will@adsl9-26.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:54] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:55] lostnhell: No, more chatty this morning. [14:56] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:56] lostnhell (n=Unknown@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:57] gabriel (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. [14:57] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:57] spaghetti, farfales, tortellini or tosades ? [14:57] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-023-055.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:31] Soul_keeper (i=1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Connection timed out [15:31] what the fuck is that? X isn't killable in slackware [15:31] after removal of fluxbox, it's still running fluxbox [15:32] or you can just touch $HOME/.xinitrc [15:32] killall -9 X xdm doesn't kill it [15:32] Ctrl+Alt+BS ? [15:32] doesn't kill it too [15:32] nfermat_ (n=nfermat@unaffiliated/nfermat) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:33] I remember other system's configurations where xdm was started by init, and would be restarted if killed [15:33] just a restart [15:33] indeed, pi31415 [15:33] toor: # telinit 3; [15:33] thx [15:34] crazy [15:34] what? [15:34] there is just crazy stuff happening, really [15:34] (in someone's head) [15:34] /home/toor/.xsession has exec wmaker in it, but every window manager starts but not wmaker [15:35] .xinitrc !!! [15:35] xwmconfig ! [15:35] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:35] I thought xdm used .xsession\ [15:35] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:35] antler (i=1000@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:35] the \ was a typo [15:35] pi31415: dunno. i don't use such crap stuff. [15:36] Shingoshi (n=root@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:36] :] [15:36] pi31415: if I login with xdm the .xsession file have absolutely no effect [15:36] How can I fix KDE not starting my dbus? [15:36] Start dbus on boot? [15:36] What file does that? [15:37] see /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession [15:37] /etc/rc.d/rc.dbus I'd imagine [15:37] lots of notes from Pat in there [15:37] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.108) joined ##slackware. [15:38] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:39] is the slackware rc.d system exactly the same as in bsd? [15:39] No [15:39] I just looked. I don't have rc.dbus. [15:39] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] Shingoshi: then you don't have dbus installed [15:39] ls /var/log/packages | grep dbus [15:40] rc.messagebus [15:40] its rc.messagebus? [15:40] ok [15:40] That's...dumb [15:40] I used xwmconfig and choosed wmaker [15:40] but still is a other wmanager started [15:40] so what nexT? [15:40] it's been rc.messagebus for a coulpe years :) [15:40] =0 [15:40] That's still lame [15:40] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:41] not really; messagebus is the name of the group / user too [15:41] the .xinitrc file has a line exec /usr/bin/wmaker [15:41] but still is twm started [15:41] toor: are you logged in as root, or user ? [15:41] toor, which runlever are you in? 3 or 4? [15:41] runlevel [15:41] on xdm I log in as user [15:42] and xwmconfig have I done as root [15:42] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [15:42] I think [15:42] toor, runlevel 4 does NOT read .xinitrc [15:42] but /home/toor/.xinitrc has exec /usr/bin/wmaker [15:42] abd xwmconfig is only for runlevel3 [15:42] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left irc: "leaving" [15:42] s/abd/and [15:43] ok, I've never seen crap like that, I'm out. [15:43] toor (i=1001@aokneufi.dyndns.org) left ##slackware. [15:43] o0 [15:43] eh? 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[15:48] pireau_ (i=chaos@208.92.18.78) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:48] holdmypocket: i use vbox for that personally. [15:49] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [15:51] dtanner: was it difficult to set up? [15:52] or is it as simple as untar the pkg and follow the install instructions [15:52] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:53] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:56] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.108) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:57] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.78) joined ##slackware. [15:58] SmallBaggyBungal (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:58] Nick change: Tyrael -> Tyrael_ [15:59] holdmypocket: I use vbox as well. It isn't difficult to set up. The open source version is available at slackbuilds.org. You can also use the one from virtualbox.org which is closed source if you need usb support. [15:59] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [16:00] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. [16:01] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) joined ##slackware. [16:03] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-216.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [16:03] straterra: that was quite a convo with infoG :) [16:04] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:04] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [16:05] Nick change: SmallBaggyBungal -> Gargantua [16:06] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: "That's my story, and I'm sticking to it." [16:06] indeed [16:06] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[16:16] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) left irc: [16:18] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:19] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@stu233-167.bard.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:20] anyone? I'm just looking for the correct way to have a /usr/src/linux-2.6.28.7 [16:20] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:20] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:21] pireau_ (i=chaos@208.92.18.108) joined ##slackware. [16:22] install the kernel-source package [16:22] thrice: oh..silly me. I'll give it a try. [16:22] located in k/ of your mirror / slack cd/dvd [16:23] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@161.45.106.68) joined ##slackware. [16:23] You know, I ALMOST thought of that on my own.... [16:23] ;) thanks Thrice [16:23] sure :) [16:24] I've looked up openoffice on slackbuilds but after downloading both the slackbuild and the source, I'm unsure of how to procede. [16:24] Cryp71c: You may want to check out http://www.slackbuilds.org/howto/ [16:24] Cryp71c: http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [16:24] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:26] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-91-228.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:27] pireau__ (i=chaos@208.92.18.79) joined ##slackware. [16:27] but it's basically: 1. dl the source and the compressed file containing the script. 2. extract the compressed file containing the script. 3. move the source into the directory containing the script. 4. run the script. 5. look in /tmp for the newly created package [16:27] tntslack (n=will@adsl9-26.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:27] 6. install new package [16:29] ecmicro (n=ecmicro@pa-67-239-42-84.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:30] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021906]" [16:30] 1. download the slackbuild, 2. untar, 3. cd, 4. source *.info && wget $DOWNLOAD, 5. ./, 6. installpkg /tmp/ [16:31] so i installpkg the new kernel source, and my nvidia-kernel.SlackBuild is failing with that same error. O.o [16:31] Thrice: am i missing a step? [16:32] http://pastebin.com/m2111223b [16:32] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:32] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.78) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:34] HugLeo (n=HugLeo@unaffiliated/hugleo) left irc: "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. -- Mark Twain" [16:35] marathon (n=chatzill@host-84-221-80-177.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [16:35] MIrrorIMage (n=MIrrorIM@75-143-74-19.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "Gone!" [16:36] is there a program in console mode for linux that lets talk without sip? [16:37] syph (i=1000@24.96.132.100) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:37] syph____ (i=1000@24.96.132.100) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:37] hmmmm logitech or altec lansing for 2.1 speakers.... [16:38] pireau_ (i=chaos@208.92.18.108) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:38] nooneelse (n=brunodeo@unaffiliated/nooneelse) joined ##slackware. [16:39] erisco: that kernel source is for another version than your running kernel? [16:39] Or alternatively, are you running Slackware's non-smp kernel? [16:39] aliebBOB: I'm using the correct kernel source. 2.6.28.7 from my mirror. and it's smp. [16:40] alienBOB: Thanks for the reply. i'll try to be easy on you if you help me out =) [16:41] kernel-source-2.6.28.7_smp-noarch-1.tgz [16:41] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-91-228.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [16:44] syph___ (i=1000@24.96.132.100) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:44] Do i need to make menuconfig or make anything in the /usr/src/linux-2.6.28.7/ directory after "installpkg kernel-source-2.6.28.7_smp-noarch-1.tgz" in order for "./nvidia-kernel.SlackBuild" to work? [16:45] erisco: what does 'uname -r' say ? [16:45] 2.6.28.7-smp [16:46] a dirty hack might be to symlink your module build dir to /usr/src/linux-2.6.28.7-smp/build [16:46] anyone experience with not only starting an install from PXE boot, but also doing an unnatended install ? [16:46] brb [16:47] unattended slackware install? [16:47] AbortRetryFail I guess he's talking about sometthing like that anaconda script of red hat for unnatended install [16:47] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:48] yes AbortRetryFail [16:48] http://pastebin.com/m44c4703e [16:48] i knwo there's a way to automate the package installation and whatnot but i don't think that will take care of partitioning disks and whatnot. [16:49] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) joined ##slackware. [16:49] meaning after PXE boot, a script starts that will partition the disks, install slack, conf slack using predifined settings for everything [16:49] whatnot? is that sort of like yadayadayada? [16:50] alienBOB: echo "scale=1000;4*a(1)" | bc -l <-------- hahahah [16:51] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [16:51] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-131.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [16:52] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [16:52] antler: :-) [16:52] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.78) joined ##slackware. [16:52] vieq (n=vieq@unaffiliated/vieq) joined ##slackware. [16:52] hello [16:53] guys, slackware do n't have Gnome? [16:53] vieq [16:53] Indeed [16:53] #dropline [16:53] cause I searched and found a separate project http://gnomeslackbuild.org/ [16:53] 2.26 almost rdy for beta [16:53] am I missing something? [16:53] k [16:53] www.droplinegnome.org [16:54] vieq: how long ago since you last looked at Slackware? [16:54] ages [16:54] since 10.0 [16:54] the gnome projects seem to be lacking for slackware, actually [16:55] thrice` not rlly [16:55] none of them have a 12.2 release yet, for example [16:55] heh i can't really imagine gnome on slackware.... [16:55] lucasagomes (n=lucasago@200.210.129.2) left irc: "Leaving" [16:55] <-- alpha here thrice` [16:55] well this time I am asking for a Friend cause I only use OpenBOX & XFCE [16:55] Tyrael_: huh> [16:55] beta for 12.2 (gnome 2.26) almost being released [16:55] droplinegnome is alive [16:56] right, they just don't think updating their homepage is wise? [16:56] also Gslacky on slacky.eu has released 12.2 packages [16:56] new website for dropline comming up [16:56] almost only counts with horseshoes and hand grenades [16:56] who cares if it's almost ready? I just checked gsb, gware, and dropline, and none of them reported 12.2. [16:56] thanks guys Tyrael_ , alienBOB [16:57] someone knows what happened with the #cluster channel [16:57] true thrice` [16:57] on freenode ? [16:57] vieq (n=vieq@unaffiliated/vieq) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:57] I have just installed Slackware 12.2. I rebooted and it stops at "darkstar login: / password:". I entered the my and root password I chose and it keeps coming back "incorrect". Any suggestions? [16:57] try http://dlg64.redos.si [16:57] you will see some news there about 2.26 [16:58] try your password again with the CAPSLOCK on [16:58] now, if you only would drop that pam crap [16:58] Pig_Pen: Ok I'll go give that a try [16:58] ;> [16:58] hehehe thrice` :D [16:58] dont think we will [16:59] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [16:59] antler: ++ ;) [17:00] Pig_Pen: Nope, didn't work [17:00] but thrice` I will announce in here when dlg (dropline) has there beta official rdy [17:00] pprkut: :D [17:01] should be around this weekend :D [17:01] Taskatech: did you create a new user? have you tried to login as root? did you specify a root password during the installation process? [17:01] mads- (n=mads@pdpc/supporter/active/mads-) joined ##slackware. [17:01] beterraba (i=c8118f21@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4af38319124a63e1) joined ##slackware. [17:02] Hi. As far as I understand you need to download the tar.gz files yourself when you're using the pkgtool in slackware. Is there a repo site somewhere? :) I'm looking for libedit2 [17:02] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:02] antler: I really don't recollect creating a user, but I did create a root password at the end of the install. [17:02] Taskatech: so login: root then the password you entered for root doesn't work? [17:03] Is there any chat room on Freenode about shell script? [17:03] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:03] antler: I'll give root a try [17:03] Taskatech: i believe you'll have success! [17:03] mads-: look for linux packages on google [17:03] mads- [17:03] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [17:04] pireau__ (i=chaos@208.92.18.79) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:04] few repo sites are: linuxpackages.net - slacky.eu [17:04] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: "fui embora" [17:05] pireau_ (i=chaos@208.92.18.108) joined ##slackware. [17:06] eww, lp.net [17:06] do NOT recommend linuxpackages. slackbuilds.org has most everything you might need. [17:06] antler: root worked. But it stops at root@darkstar: #. I guess I need to do some reading. I was looking for a desktop to appear. [17:07] sako (n=sako@cpe-66-75-78-228.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:07] startx [17:07] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:07] Taskatech: yeah, startx. but i would create a regular user before running startx. [17:07] well, startx is on strike today, sorry [17:07] Taskatech: you really do not know what to expect from Slackware do you? [17:07] Maybe time to read slackbook.org [17:08] alienBOB: not really [17:08] It's not hard, just differnt from other distros [17:08] fAu (i=1000@217.200.54.80) joined ##slackware. [17:08] ant [17:08] Is there any chat room on Freenode about shell script? [17:08] Taskatech: will take a lot of reading to get slackware up and running the way you want maybe you should start with a more automagic distro? [17:09] antler: thanks for the command [17:09] mads-: there is also alienBOB's repo: http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/ [17:09] thanks :) [17:09] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:09] sako: I have tried Mandriva, Suse, PClinuxOS, and Ubuntu...too boring [17:10] hehe well too boring but take the time to learn whats going on.. but your right you wont learn anything with those distros [17:10] I am hoping this distro will teach me something [17:10] oh ya your in for a treat :) [17:10] :0 [17:11] just do some reading and you will be fine... [17:11] Thanks, I'm off to do that right now... [17:11] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn194.78-99-147.t-com.sk) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:12] credo (n=name@80.233.147.119) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [17:13] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [17:13] Taskatech: check out slackbook.org section 6 and on [17:13] sounds like where you are at right now :) [17:14] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:14] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:16] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:16] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.78) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:16] sako: will do, thanks for all your help! [17:17] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [17:18] gabriel (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. 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[17:20] Taskatech: after you're desktop is setup, check out alienBOB 's firewall generator found here: http://www.slackware.com/~alien/efg/index.php. once generated, create a blank text file called " rc.firewall " and copy the generated contents to rc.firewall. move rc.firewall to /etc/rc.d and run the command " chmod +x rc.firewall " (or " chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall "). then start the firewall by running the command " /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall start " <---- [17:23] And if you make /etc/rd.c/rc.firewall executable, Slackware will start it on every boot (no need for manual start) [17:23] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.79) joined ##slackware. [17:23] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@161.45.106.68) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:24] nooneelse (n=brunodeo@unaffiliated/nooneelse) left irc: "rehearsal" [17:25] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) joined ##slackware. [17:26] Nick change: spmd -> desavel [17:28] P4C0 (n=paco@190.141.75.90) joined ##slackware. [17:28] desavel (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [17:28] hello, what's the correct way to change default locale to utf-8 ? [17:28] desavel (i=loli@189.52.152.175) joined ##slackware. [17:29] P4C0, edit /etc/profile.d/lang.sh [17:29] it's commented [17:30] nfermat_ (n=nfermat@201.82.199.43) joined ##slackware. [17:31] slava_dp: thanks, do I need special fonts? [17:32] desavel (i=loli@189.52.152.175) left irc: Client Quit [17:32] P4C0, setconsolefont (if you need it) [17:33] gabriel (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:33] P4C0, is this for linux console or under X? [17:33] pireau_ (i=chaos@208.92.18.108) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:33] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:34] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [17:34] dive: linux console, but I think i will not need extra fonts :) [17:34] which language? [17:34] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.176.75) joined ##slackware. [17:34] pireau_ (i=chaos@208.92.18.78) joined ##slackware. [17:34] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430645.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:34] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430645.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:34] dive: spanish [17:35] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430645.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:36] there are two you need do: add 'vt.default_utf8=1' to your lilo append line, and use a font like lat9w-16 [17:36] then you might want to look for a utf8 keymap which gives € etc [17:37] euros if you can't read that [17:38] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:38] dive: how can I know what font I'm using right now? [17:39] look in /etc/rc.d/rc.font [17:40] when you run 'setconsolefont' it will change that file [17:40] dive: thanks [17:40] yw [17:40] I should make a how to for utf8 console one of these days.. [17:40] root__ (n=nukedclx@azq61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:41] dive: slackwiki? [17:41] yeah maybe [17:41] :) [17:41] dive: please do.. and please cover its implications in xterm[-alikes] too :P [17:41] ricktl (n=slackwar@201.78.31.16) left irc: "já volto." [17:42] macavity, no :P [17:42] pretty please with sugar on top? [17:42] xterm-alikes can sort their own problems out [17:42] users of ^^ [17:42] indeed [17:42] alhough it's not a bad descriptions [17:42] -s [17:44] gabriel (n=gabriel@lc-dyn-250.inf.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. [17:44] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:44] for my part there seems to be something i am completely missing.. when it set LANG to a US or EN utf8 variant i get wonkiness with the dk-latin1 keyboard layout i am using [17:44] i sure hope they didnt make any ties between the two... [17:44] hmm keymap needed? [17:44] thrice': i fixed the problem. i used "nvidia-installer --expert" and set the locations manually. thanks for the initial help. [17:45] loadkeys dk-latin1 [17:45] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.79) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:45] it seems to be font related somehow [17:45] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.176.75) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120121]" [17:45] why are you using english lang with dk keyboard? o0 [17:45] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:46] because documentation is in english, the people i work with speak english, and, last but not least, danish locale rules stipulates , instead of . as the decimal point [17:46] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:46] that looks SO weird with "4,3MB" and stuff like that [17:47] ive been using english UI for so long that i dont even know what the functions in, say a word processor, are called in danish [17:48] English is the language of the net and computers. [17:48] so i just want to be treated like a US-en person who happens to be stuck with a dk-latin1 keyboard :P [17:48] macavity, well the key codes get sent to the console and with the right font the characters get printed correctly [17:48] which font are you using? [17:48] in console or konsole? [17:49] I thought we were talking about console [17:49] macavity: are you having the same problem in both console and konsole? [17:49] P4C0: slightly different, yet the same [17:50] in console it only prints æ and å wrong when i use UTF8 [17:50] in konsole it gets æ, ø and å wrong [17:50] are you using vt.default_utf8=1 in lilo? [17:50] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.108) joined ##slackware. [17:51] ive tried both with and without [17:51] hey hey! æ, ø and å are displayed properly for me whereas they appeared as weird-looking question marks before :D [17:51] observe that i am on 12.1 with a recent kernel [17:51] øØ [17:51] and do you use the unicode_start command? [17:51] ah! [17:51] no [17:51] nooneelse (n=brunodeo@201-75-87-172-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:52] kkthxbai! ;-) [17:52] how can I create a file name with current datetime ? [17:52] with vt.default_utf8 in lilo, unicode_start messes up [17:52] so don't use both [17:52] nooneelse: touch filename [17:52] macavity: all i see is, ?, ?, ? [17:52] :P [17:53] i don't have unicode_start at boot, should I add it? [17:53] agentc0re sorry, I guess I didnt explain well... [17:53] macavity, have you tried turning on utf8 in lilo and tried different fonts? [17:53] P4C0, not with it in lilo [17:53] dive: in console i just use the default builtin [17:53] OK, I may be asking a very stupid question here, but I am not able to find a libedit package. Are you able to see it anywhere or am I not as stupid as I think? :P [17:53] I want to create a file, with the name like 'filename_DDMMYYY_HHMMSS' [17:54] dive: it does have æ, ø and å in it.. i checked (for another project long ago) [17:54] tolis (n=tolis@ppp-94-65-40-224.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:54] yeah but it's not utf8 [17:54] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:54] try lat9w-16 [17:55] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:55] nooneelse: create a script, use date command, store its result in a variable and then add it to your filename [17:55] after setting utf8 in lilo [17:55] is lat9w-16 utf8? [17:56] P4C0 the process of HOW TO doing it I know, just want to know if there's some shortcut like 'touch filename`date blahblah`' [17:56] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-023-055.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:56] it has a lot of extended characters like euro and accented characters [17:56] nooneelse, yes [17:56] touch filename`date +%Y%m%d` [17:56] nooneelse: touch filename$(date %d%m%Y%H%M%S) [17:56] nooneelse: see date(1) [17:57] macavity thank you, i'll take a read [17:57] oh, yes... you need a + infront of all that goob [17:57] dive: ill have a seccond look at all this [17:57] nooneelse: you may also need to soround it with " " [17:57] dive: thx :-) [17:57] macavity, np [17:57] tolis (n=tolis@ppp-94-65-40-224.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "‘À¿ÇÎÁ·Ãµ" [17:58] macavity just correcting [17:58] dive: i suspect that when i get the console bugs ironed out, that will probagate to konsole too [17:58] macavity filename`date +%d%m%Y%H%M%S` [17:58] nooneelse: thats what i said :P [17:58] yeah, ok ok [17:58] lol [17:58] nooneelse: and here is a correction for you: backticks are depricated and *will* be removed from bash soon :P [17:58] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cqv139.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:59] $(command) is the proper way [17:59] nooneelse, use $() not `` [17:59] thanks [17:59] just corrected [17:59] touch "filename_$(date +%d%m%Y_%H%M%S)" [17:59] touch "filename$(date +%whatever)" [17:59] it has two advantages: they can be nested, *and* they are not hellish to type on danish keyboards :P [17:59] npad|home (n=nick@pool-173-66-2-167.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:59] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.108) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:00] macavity of course, and ` and ´ and ' are damn similar [18:00] all other enquiries please see #bash [18:00] dive, k [18:00] sorry for asking it here [18:00] no i was j/k :-) [18:00] nooneelse: yes.. hard to read is a good reason too :P [18:00] but slackware users are known for working with bash scripts all the time... so I thought here was a great pleace to ask kinds of stuff like that [18:01] it takes me three keypresses to get a ` [18:01] nooneelse: Heh, it is he was just kidding. [18:01] nooneelse, i was joking :-| [18:01] shift-accentbutton-space [18:01] pireau_ (i=chaos@208.92.18.78) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:01] dive :) [18:01] i usually like to get people go moan in bash channel ;) [18:02] heh , where they will get hammered on [18:02] macavity for brazilian users accent like ´`' are ease to find on keyboard... [18:02] but still annoying to type fast while wrinting scripts [18:02] nooneelse: fire away.. we often have quite interesting discussions about in what order things are evaluated, how the different invocation methods alter the environment, herritage of local variables, etc etc [18:02] aka, the stuff where the #bash guys are likely to say "RFTM" :P [18:02] Kerio2004 (n=Port@212.118.140.237) joined ##slackware. [18:03] ricktl (n=slack@201.78.31.16) joined ##slackware. [18:03] they don't call it 'bash' for nothing [18:03] lulz [18:03] what they call then ? [18:03] bash your heads ,,, boing boing [18:03] the bug section on bash's man page is cool :p [18:03] bash in english means beat or hit [18:03] [hard] [18:03] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.79) joined ##slackware. [18:03] [ in bed ] [18:04] LOL [18:04] NOOOEES! [18:04] heh [18:04] been a while since i've seen one of those. [18:04] yeah I still have a load of useless aliases ;p [18:04] Action: dive throws a brick at agentc0re|work *bonk* [18:04] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201-1-152-224.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:04] Action: agentc0re|work pulls out the eel cannon and fires it at dive [18:05] eww [18:05] Action: agentc0re|work hides the eel cannon [18:05] Razec (n=razec@189.56.183.198) joined ##slackware. [18:05] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:05] unfortunatly most of my aliases are a few lines and will probably get me kicked [18:05] o [18:05] /> [18:05] dive kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [18:05] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [18:05] see [18:06] heh. [18:06] do it again. [18:06] :P [18:06] you should see my retard wagon [18:06] do it three times in a row with auto-rejoin enabled :P [18:07] Action: macavity pads slackboy for being such a well behaving bot [18:07] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Success [18:08] now i'm lag :p [18:08] dive: Lets see it. :) [18:09] i stole it though [18:09] think it on one of those signature sites [18:09] agentc0re|work is a natural selection reverse engineer [18:09] Nick change: Drgb -> BOFH [18:09] is that reverse Darwinism? [18:09] heh [18:09] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-91-228.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:10] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.166.175) joined ##slackware. [18:10] antler (i=1000@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:10] yeah, it's like telling a kid that playing leapfrog on a railroad is good. [18:10] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.15) left irc: [18:10] dusty__ (n=dusty@88-105-54-35.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [18:10] I see our way heading into a dark and bleak future of climbing trees and eating bananas [18:10] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [18:11] although caves will also be popular [18:11] no, well, there have to be some weaknesses to be exploited. you can't kill evolved beings. [18:11] strankan (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:12] we need to come up with a hack that litterally blows computers up [18:12] yeah what was that silly scare about hackers blowing up your pc? [18:12] that way computer users will evolve faster.. all the 'tards on dalnet will die in an afternoon :P [18:12] well, hoax scare [18:12] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] BOFH: I'm not really sure how to take that... [18:12] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201-1-152-224.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [18:13] agentc0re|work: take it with a cynical joke :P [18:13] macavity: Fair enough :) [18:13] yeah, I'm a good guy, despite apparences [18:13] macavity, if we took all the dalnet and aol users and shipped them off to an island somewhere - wonder how they will evolve? [18:13] appearances? [18:13] agentc0re|work: after all, you are in the "grumpy old men" channel ;-) [18:14] meh, my english sucks [18:14] bye bye [18:14] P4C0 (n=paco@190.141.75.90) left irc: "leaving" [18:14] BOFH: "appearances" == how he looks, or is generally perceived [18:14] BOFH: eg, what he appears to be [18:14] dive: We might end up with the statepuffnewb user if we did that. [18:14] ok, I think I guessed the right word [18:15] agentc0re|work, idiocracy again :-) [18:15] dive: LOL, it always ends back up there no matter how good the equation looks. [18:15] dive: i suspect we they would eventually breed only politicians and lawyers ;-) [18:16] for natural selection to work we must find some kind of inhibitor of the inferior [18:17] macavity, ship em off to an island and they will inhibit each other eventually [18:17] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.62.129) joined ##slackware. [18:17] ah no, that's the world right now though.. [18:17] so, we take all the aol users and all the ##slackware users, and put them in a place where you have to apply logical thinking in order to obtain food and water [18:18] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-232.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [18:18] heh [18:18] how do you tell the difference between roadkill if the two choices were 1) a lawyer or 2) a skunk ? -> Answer = Well there are NO skid marks it MUST has to be a lwayer! [18:18] that would be a very quick cycle of evolution :P [18:18] we could employ the vim sanity test [18:18] or vi even better [18:18] dtanner: did you know that scientists have begone using lawyers instead of rats in the labs? [18:18] =0 [18:18] I think we should offer free trips to the moon from a cannon and see how many people fall for it before they all start figuring out no one is surviving long enough to get to the moon. [18:18] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [18:18] Then at that point, we find a new menacing way. :D [18:19] dtanner: because: a) the scientists dont get as emotionally attached to the lawyers and b)..... there are things not even rats will do ;-) [18:19] agentc0re|work, I would be one of the first jumpers :D [18:19] BOFH: LOL [18:19] macavity: haha +) good one [18:19] "free tickets to the moon, HOORAY!" [18:19] free tickets to isolation with a great view [18:20] hitch hikers guide all over again [18:21] i just noticed my horrific grammar typos in that joke :P [18:21] "Why is the cannon aimed at that brick wall sir?" [18:21] 'No, now I come to think of it they did say that we would be crash landing. Technical reasons or something.' [18:21] horrific i say [18:21] Razec (n=razec@189.56.183.198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:22] Thousands of cannons set up next to each other, all fired in volley. [18:22] it is so beautiful outside today and here i sit in forn of the computer [18:22] "That's the accelerating wall, don't worry. We use it to make your trip faster." [18:22] heh. [18:22] The goal is to make it over the wall, if you can't do that you wont get to the moon. [18:22] 80 degrees or something like that ... i shold be riding my bike but now is high traffic time :( [18:22] "B..but...I just see a wall!" [18:23] you will become "another brick in the wall" [18:23] Here's some redbull, it'll give you wings. [18:23] "Sure. And look behind you, there's a three-headed monkey" [18:23] then your space travels shall exceed all imagination [18:23] "Wher.." *BANG* [18:23] "Fucking atheists.." [18:23] Wait, what about my space sui....*BANG [18:23] we have a special "easy wall" for aol users.. it has 500 small holes in it, so those who dont make it will be usefull as meat-fries aftewards :P [18:24] ugh [18:24] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [18:24] agentc0re|work, does red bull give wings also in your country? cool! [18:24] BOFH: I think it's their slogan all around. :D [18:24] :D [18:24] aw. [18:24] hey KjellB :-) [18:25] Hi. How's it hanging? [18:25] Action: macavity looks [18:25] downwards? [18:25] my GF just left... [18:25] othermindszine (n=othermin@12.sub-70-192-92.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [18:25] ;-) [18:25] DAM DAM DAM ;) [18:25] What are we damming up? [18:25] Is it the flow of macavity's tears? [18:26] tears? [18:26] Yeah. [18:26] thats not what was flowing... [18:26] there is a reason why it is hanging downwards right now :P [18:26] The tears are hanging downwards cause she left you :'< [18:26] credo (n=name@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. [18:27] pireau_ (i=chaos@208.92.18.78) joined ##slackware. [18:27] ok.. i am NOT good at making subtle jokes about the state of penises [18:27] IT is haning downwards... when my GF was here it, uhm.. didn't hang ;-) [18:27] KjellB: Short, shrivelled and to the *looks* left. [18:27] macavity: Could we see a state diagram? [18:28] 8====D [18:28] That might help. [18:28] we don;t really want to know this [18:29] jkwood: while [ $STATE = "erect" ]; do hump_hard; done [18:29] pireau_ (i=chaos@208.92.18.78) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:29] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:29] macavity: Well, as I've said before, *.avi is _NOT_ a girlfriend. [18:29] So what you're saying is, you do it standing up? [18:30] lol [18:30] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430645.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:30] jkwood: i am not a fan of doing the equivalent of pushups during "happy hour" ;-) [18:31] root__ (n=nukedclx@azq61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:31] desks were invented for a reason... then later people found out they were great at sitting at too [18:31] ah, crap.. the laundry [18:31] bbiab [18:31] she left before finishing the laundry? [18:32] Ah, she's not doing the laundry anymore. That's why you cried? :o [18:32] Haha well well. What are you all doing tonight? [18:32] pireau_ (i=chaos@208.92.18.108) joined ##slackware. [18:33] Picking on macavity, mostly. [18:34] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-131-241.ip38.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [18:34] sweet [18:34] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:35] dofas (n=shadow@201008162077.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:38] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.79) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:39] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.7.234) joined ##slackware. [18:39] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:40] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE682A.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("parted..."). [18:41] evening guys [18:41] Hello. [18:41] nachox: Hi. How are you doing? [18:41] Hey [18:42] nachox: CHECK IT OUT! http://www.fuhell.com/boot/ [18:43] straterra, your car? [18:43] Heh, and then the last shot... Automatic. [18:43] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [18:43] P4C0 (n=paco@190.141.75.90) joined ##slackware. [18:44] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Client Quit [18:44] nachox: yeah.. [18:44] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [18:44] It's an automatic..I put the boot on it today [18:44] landed [18:44] and it's effing cold [18:45] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:45] straterra, nice, congrats [18:45] \O/ [18:45] I'm gonna order a momo or sparco one..That is just an autozone one that I don't like [18:45] Nick change: pireau_ -> pireau [18:45] Nick change: speedy -> Guest29167 [18:45] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:46] mads- (n=mads@pdpc/supporter/active/mads-) left irc: "leaving" [18:49] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:58] Hi [18:58] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [18:59] :-) [18:59] NyteOwl: Hello. [19:00] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@stu233-167.bard.edu) joined ##slackware. [19:01] gm152_ (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:03] hey all, I'm setting up a server and got most me stuff installed, did the SB of postgres and standard slackpkg php and wonderin how to link them, I can't find the shared lib [19:03] fevel (n=fevel@189.32.157.67) joined ##slackware. [19:03] I've found plpgsql.so [19:07] SmallBaggyBungal (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] guessin I needed to add the --with-php to the slackbuild? [19:07] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:07] Nick change: SmallBaggyBungal -> Gargantua [19:09] bah.... can't find the right config param.... [19:11] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [19:13] run ./configure --help on the source and see what it offers [19:14] Nick change: soul_ -> Soul_keeper [19:16] I like the cut of your jib, didn't think of that! [19:16] don't look like there's an option to pass anything specific to the shared lib [19:16] Kerio2004 (n=Port@212.118.140.237) left irc: Connection timed out [19:17] theblackbox: and in php? [19:17] hmmm, yeah I was thinking that could be the culprit, but I didn't wanna build from source [19:17] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [19:17] I installed it from the slackpkg package [19:18] theblackbox: you can get the slackbuild for any slackware official package [19:18] from any mirror or the dvd [19:18] hmmm, didn't think they did a php sb [19:19] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection reset by peer [19:19] theblackbox: what i mean is that you can grab official's php slackbuild and modify the parameters to support postgre [19:19] and recompile with it of course :) [19:19] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:20] yes, I just prefer to use tried and tested .... I'm bound to miss something ;) [19:20] guess that's how to learn though [19:20] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:21] theblackbox: hahah don't worry, all needed stuff is already in your system or else php wouldn't work [19:21] you could get postgresql to compile, so you can count on it too [19:21] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:21] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [19:22] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [19:22] Khratos (n=Khratos@190.166.143.134) joined ##slackware. [19:22] yeah, but it's a crappy little VIA C7 ;) takes ages to build anything [19:22] upgrade man :P [19:22] nah, don't worry, php isn't as big as it sounds :P [19:23] and lose mylittle black box! never! [19:23] theblackbox: http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-12.2/source/n/php/ [19:23] upgrades.. hmm. WHy oh WHy didn't i take the BLUE pill? [19:23] there you can grab all needed, including the slackbuild [19:23] gbonvehim, perfect, cheers... as rooting around to mount my iso on nfs =S [19:24] s/as/was [19:24] heh, packages.slackware.it is a good source to avoid that [19:25] nooneelse (n=brunodeo@unaffiliated/nooneelse) left irc: "went to get drunk..." [19:27] fevel (n=fevel@189.32.157.67) left irc: [19:29] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [19:29] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-131.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:29] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@99.8.226.79) joined ##slackware. [19:30] how i can start a video server? does any one have any idea, or has work on it? [19:31] video server? [19:31] yes [19:31] reminds me though , of getting my icecast/shoutcast audio stream up and going =) never worked on a video server project though. you mean streaming ? [19:31] Streaming Video Servers [19:32] i tried vlc but is works only on local host... [19:32] look in to vlc [19:32] vlc works over the internet [19:32] DIW [19:32] you should be able to fix that on vlc [19:32] how to do that? [19:32] i done all methods [19:33] and can't connect [19:33] No you didn't [19:33] xmm [19:33] opening vlc, Media=>Steaming [19:34] and then i put a video, making some config for video codecs and opening rtp or udp port with my local ip [19:34] same thing on router [19:34] media -> steaming ... sounds like someone wants to start a porn server. >:=] [19:35] vls 9 is like that :D [19:35] v4nelle (n=van@adsl134-146.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:35] should i make some config on properties? [19:38] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:38] You can use the VLC streaming wizard (like BP{k} said) and then copy the suggested commandline string to a shell prompt (and use cvlc) if you want to run the streaming server without X [19:40] there is no wizard on vlc 9.8... [19:41] Do you have the menu Media > Streaming ? [19:41] sako (n=sako@cpe-66-75-78-228.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:41] yes [19:42] i making from there [19:42] truzicic (n=quassel@83-131-227-220.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [19:42] i fill on outputs RTP put my ip address of my pc, and the port is 1234 [19:43] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.13.223) joined ##slackware. [19:43] on profile choosing MPEG-TS and starting stream [19:45] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:49] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:52] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:54] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [19:54] heya [19:55] truzicic (n=quassel@83-131-227-220.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:58] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:58] blaguvest (n=chatzill@c-6ca772d5.036-245-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]" [19:59] chio_ (n=chio@adsl-75-44-33-119.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:00] tpollard_ (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [20:00] godling: hey. how are you? [20:01] ok. trying to get my new toy working with gtkpod [20:01] you? [20:01] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@c-69-180-248-119.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:01] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-232.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [20:02] I am experiencing a strange problem. Got two laptops connected through the same router. one laptop can access a website just fine. second laptop cannot see any images from that website. What gives? [20:03] sounds liek a browser or proxy configurtion issue on the second laptop [20:03] godling: I'm good. Thanks. [20:04] NyteOwl, yes, actually I just tried another browser, and that works fine. [20:04] or a content filter setting on the router [20:04] k [20:04] how to check in firefox if something is blocked? [20:05] cryptic0: what do you mean by blocked? [20:05] oh, like NyteOwl is suggesting [20:05] do you have a proxy setup on the second machine? [20:05] StevenR (n=foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:05] adblock or something, maybe? [20:05] godling, no [20:05] cryptic0: there is a setting in preferences under content that will prevent loading images [20:05] I used to be able to see images just a week ago, but since last week it hasn't worked [20:06] raelakoira (n=raela@205.133.227.98) joined ##slackware. [20:06] did you update anything last week? [20:06] add a new extension perhaps? [20:06] we are usually the cause of our own misfortunes. :) [20:06] cHiOs (n=chio@adsl-75-50-251-55.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:06] godling: Isn't that the truth. :D [20:07] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [20:07] gm152_ (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [20:07] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] godling, NyteOwl no haven't upgraded anything since last couple of months [20:08] images loaded by default option is already selected and there aren't any exceptions listed [20:08] also, if that was the case, it should have blocked other websites too. [20:08] the problem is with just this website [20:08] pixdaus.com [20:08] maybe it has blocked that suer agent [20:08] http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts119/launchbat.html [20:09] er user [20:09] raela (n=raela@205.133.227.98) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:09] Nick change: raelakoira -> raela [20:09] NyteOwl, then it shouldn't work in another browser [20:09] but it does work in netscape and seamonkey [20:09] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:09] Nick change: tpollard_ -> tpollard [20:09] cryptic0: ssure it wioll they have different user agent strings [20:10] huh! that would be very weird if they did that. [20:10] cryptic0: the suer agent string is how the browser identifies itself to the website. FF will identify as Firefox, while teh other s as Netscape and Seamonkey rewspectively [20:11] pardon the typing - sore hands tonight [20:11] i see. but I am using ff on the other laptop too [20:11] cryptic0: same OS? [20:11] so if it is blocking the user agent, it must be blocking it only from my machine [20:11] no different [20:11] works in xp, not in slack 12.1 [20:11] ah different OS different user agent string :) [20:11] judequinn (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [20:14] cryptic0: there's a plugin for firefox to change the user-agent string [20:14] StevenR (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:14] cryptic0: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 <-- User Agent Switcher [20:14] see if it helps [20:18] LnxSlck_ (i=1000@95.69.9.252) joined ##slackware. [20:18] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-249.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:19] godling: so what new toy did you get that your trying to get working with gtkpod. I'm just curious. [20:19] 120GB iPod classic [20:19] shiny [20:20] it's working now, I had to update libgpod [20:22] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:22] godling: Ah. nice. I just have a couple Sansa MP3 players. They both support ogg and flac though. :) [20:22] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [20:22] firebird619, those players are so damn cool [20:23] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:23] Action: NyteOwl should open his Nano and see what it's like heh [20:23] Break the warranty! :D [20:23] nachox: I see IBM are looking at buying Sun [20:23] nachox: I have the Sansa Clip 2GB and the Sansa C240 (which supports rockbox). [20:23] LnxSlck_ (i=1000@95.69.9.252) left irc: "Saindo" [20:23] firebird619: what's the capacity of hte players? [20:23] NyteOwl, that's a rumor, i dont believe it for a second [20:24] I don't mean open the case I mean open the package. I won a Nano in 2007 but it's been unopened in the desk drawer heh [20:24] firebird619, C240? [20:24] which one is that? [20:24] nachox: pretty good rumour - has made most of the tech/it organs [20:24] Action: thrice` wouldn't be surprised if IBM bought sun [20:24] godling: The Clip is 2GB and the C240 is 1GB but accepts a microSD card. [20:24] NyteOwl, what did you expect? it'd be the biggest ibm buy in the history [20:25] It's all in a bigger plan. mySQL -> SUN buys it -> SUN -> IBM buys it -> IBM -> Microsoft buys it. And then mySQL will not be developed anymore! :O [20:25] thrice`: I smell antitrust [20:25] Action: nachox can smell the same thing [20:25] nachox: This one http://reviews.cnet.com/mp3-players/sandisk-sansa-c240-1gb/4505-6490_7-32078922.html [20:26] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.13.223) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:26] nachox: it would be a logial buy for IBM if they could swing it though [20:26] firebird619: nice [20:26] no, it wouldnt, sun and ibm have MANY overlapped products [20:27] yes an if you eliminate much of the overlaps you get a damn strong product line [20:27] godling: Yeah. I like that I can use ogg and flac for my music, and rockbox on the c240 is really nice. [20:27] I'm not sure if rockbox supports this ipod [20:27] communicator (n=123@89.155.14.206) joined ##slackware. [20:27] I had it on my last one [20:27] the last one died. :( [20:27] I just get the frowny faced ipod [20:27] godling: I think it does. I've never had a ipod, what I have works great. [20:28] nachox: I don't think it will happen but it would be a big win for IBM [20:28] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.23.80) left irc: "Leaving" [20:28] godling: from the rockbox site. Apple: 1st through 5.5th generation iPod, iPod Mini and 1st generation iPod Nano (not the Shuffle, 2nd/3rd/4th gen Nano, Classic or Touch) [20:28] godling: and yours is classic? :( [20:29] no iphone?, that sucks [20:29] ananke: Hey. How's it going? [20:30] busy. it's always busy [20:30] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:30] hey how do I stop apache? [20:30] httpd stop? [20:30] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [20:30] pirving : /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd stop [20:30] or apachectl stop [20:31] cool thanks [20:32] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:32] firebird619: 6th gen [20:33] cant i pkill apache -HUP? :) [20:33] nachox : that's nasty and portable :) [20:33] it's so nasty you cant but love it [20:34] hi, i am using slackware 12.2, and I am trying xfce for the first time in a long while. I notice that I have multiple trash icons and home icons. I'll assume that's because I was using KDE. how do I stop the multiple Icons? [20:35] blkdg : i'd assume they're in your ~/Desktop directory [20:36] yes, just rm them each time ananke ? [20:36] they shouldn't be created every time, that's just odd [20:36] Are install CDs 3 and 4 just source files? [20:37] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:38] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:38] currently, i'm using kde 95% of the time, and when I flip into xfce, i can see two trash bins, one that i can't access in xfce - unsupported error msg. and one that is supported by xfce. [20:39] the other trash can could be KDE's [20:39] plus, all of my desktop files migrate with me. so if i have a png file on my kde desktop, its there in xfce [20:39] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [20:39] right Pig_Pen . [20:40] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@stu233-167.bard.edu) left irc: Connection timed out [20:40] just wondering if there was a xfce setting to disable this behavior. [20:40] brb [20:40] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [20:41] homem (n=homem@83-34-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:43] thanks anyhow [20:43] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [20:44] StevenR (n=foo@wan1.sghs.org.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:44] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:45] xfce is not bad but i prefer to use rox-filer to draw the desktop icons & wallpaper when it comes to anything light weight [20:45] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [20:47] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:48] homem (n=homem@83-34-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: "leaving" [20:49] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:50] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:50] StevenR (n=foo@wan2.sghs.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:50] hi. can someone help me troubleshoot this webcam? it's all setup, it's detected, but is putting out garbage [20:50] im not even really sure where to start with this thing [20:50] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.62.129) left irc: "Leaving" [20:50] another thing i like about rox-filer is you can use it with a variety of light weight window managers, fvwm, openbox, & etc... you can even disable xfce from drawing the desktop and use rox-filer instead [20:50] peter_ (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [20:51] Nick change: peter_ -> Guest76550 [20:52] shingoshi_ (n=shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:53] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:55] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [20:55] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:55] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-249.dial.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:56] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:03] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:03] othermindszine (n=othermin@12.sub-70-192-92.myvzw.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:05] antonio_ (n=antonio@85-18-194-14.ip.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [21:06] How can i boot Slackware install from USB pen? [21:07] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [21:07] tank-man (n=peter@174.6.38.217) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:09] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [21:09] i think alienBOB had something for that [21:09] He sure does. [21:10] http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/usbinstall/12.2/ [21:10] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@c-69-180-248-119.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:11] Action: nachox hugs alienBOB [21:12] Action: chopp looks away too shocked to speak [21:14] "Imagine the fun of carrying your Slackware installer with you on your [21:14] key chain or in your pocket! [21:14] " [21:14] ccfreak2k: I had a floppy disk for that [21:14] "Is that a Slackware installer in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" [21:14] Because, one day, there just might be a situation when having Slackware install media on my USB mass storage device might save my life. [21:15] "Imagine the fun". Haha, I love it. [21:16] alienBOB: That sir, is an erect penis. [21:18] straterra, was that necessary? [21:18] macavity, http://slackwiki.org/Utf-8_linux_console [21:18] Necessary? no. [21:19] But I thought it was funny [21:19] green-freq (n=green-fr@204.30.0.73) joined ##slackware. [21:19] really, for all i know kids might be reading that [21:19] god 2 hours later and you're still talking about penises? [21:19] Well..isn't it an adult channel? [21:19] no, it's a support channel, open to anyone [21:20] I see. [21:20] /lastlog penis [21:20] :> [21:20] dive, i'm serious [21:21] ok sorry [21:21] can we ban solaris talk too, then? [21:21] of course [21:21] antonio_ (n=antonio@85-18-194-14.ip.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [21:22] penisis? support channel? i know! the answer is jock strap!! [21:22] .... [21:22] anyone know where I might find a better how to with regard to snort on Slackware.. the one at snort is riddles with errors [21:23] keep talking about it and make it worse, thats a good idea. [21:23] lostnhell (n=Unknown@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:23] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:23] like picking a wound until it becomes infected [21:24] Action: dive goes back to slackwiki [21:24] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:25] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [21:25] whats a penis i'm a little kid [21:25] erisco: ask your dad [21:26] or your mom [21:26] ricktl (n=slack@201.78.31.16) left irc: "falow" [21:26] its the reason I cant get an answer to my question [21:26] green-freq: Google is your friend! :) [21:26] does it get in the way of your typing [21:27] I own google.. and there doesnt appear to be a slackware 12.0 how to out there aside from the crappy one at snort.org [21:27] green-freq (n=green-fr@204.30.0.73) left irc: [21:27] ##slackware: mode change '+o nachox' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [21:28] green-freq: are you using a slackbuild? [21:28] green-freq (n=green-fr@204.30.0.73) joined ##slackware. [21:28] 20:26 < chopp> green-freq: are you using a slackbuild? [21:28] trust me I would bother yall if it was something as simple as google.. [21:28] ArTourter (n=artourte@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:29] Slackware how-to for what? [21:29] jkwood: slackware 12.0 [21:29] green-freq: try snortattack.or [21:29] *.org [21:29] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [21:29] green-freq: That's not a proper answer to the question I asked. [21:30] Oh, for snort. [21:30] the snort people want your money [21:30] stupid capitalists [21:31] godling.. took a quick look at that site, and it appears to be debian [21:31] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:31] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:31] godling, and redhat [21:32] that's the biggest snort support site [21:32] ...that I've seen [21:32] Really? That's the second-biggest snort support site I've ever seen. [21:32] jkwood: what's the first? [21:33] I'm not at liberty to say. [21:35] likely story [21:35] Action: godling gives jkwood the stink eye [21:36] it could be something awful like microsoft or some other proprietory software house of evil repute [21:36] jkwood: http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d44/kellewat/stinkeye.jpg [21:36] scary! [21:37] green-freq (n=green-fr@204.30.0.73) left irc: [21:37] hulu just posted Cosmos. :D [21:37] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [21:39] Prefe (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:40] godling: It's actually an old Don Adams gag. [21:41] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:41] green-freq (n=jon@204.30.0.73) joined ##slackware. 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[22:12] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:13] dartmouth: if you're the testing type, you can run -current, which uses kde4.2.1 [22:13] i am, but im rather invested in this system [22:13] dartmouth: fair enough. [22:14] if there were a "package patcher" that would allow me to convert -current packages to 12.2 packages I would have a field day, though. [22:15] although...i am assuming kde4 can run alongside kde3? or at least the libs and base? [22:16] noticed something strange in /var/log. got multiple copies of things like cron, secure, spooler, with .1, .2 as a suffix, any ideas what I goofed [22:17] davimint, that's logrotate [22:17] it's just the old versions of those log files. You'll notice that cron will only go back so far and then you need to look at cron.1 [22:18] Well... KDE 4 can live alongside KDE 3, but it's a hack. [22:18] ugggh. well i dont want the whole DE, i just want the K [22:18] (hah) [22:18] thanks, that gives me something to learn about [22:20] MrAlexandro (n=chatzill@24.238.109.202) joined ##slackware. [22:20] davimint (n=david@c-76-123-131-156.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:20] hey guys [22:21] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-156-85.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:27] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:29] MIrrorIMage (n=MIrrorIM@75-143-74-19.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:30] nathanbw: logged in, but away [22:34] hrmmm jkwood looks like on slackware.it there is a set of kde4 packages that work for 12.2 but will change soon as -currents library base changes [22:34] (if i am reading that correctly) [22:36] ezrafree (i=ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left irc: "[A] that love means death I realized too soon ..." 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[22:44] no idea what im doing [22:45] yeah im preatty sure i just screwed up hardcore [22:47] rwaters (n=rwaters@c-68-35-253-65.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:48] Nick change: rwaters -> DeiBellum [22:48] lchsrgad@2008 [22:48] shit [22:49] I hate having two keyboards in front of me >.< [22:50] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:51] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@c-68-35-253-65.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:51] Action: nachox smells password there [22:51] heh i have it too. and then takes wrong [22:52] christ i just borked my whole system [22:52] what a remarkably bad idea [22:55] dartmouth: guess now you can test -current huh. [22:55] haha [22:56] i may have to [22:56] oh man im gonna puke [22:57] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.166.175) left irc: "leaving" [22:57] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:57] amarok: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkio.so.5: undefined symbol: _ZN11QTreeWidget17setSelectionModelEP19QItemSelectionModel [22:59] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [22:59] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) left irc: "changing servers" [23:00] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) joined ##slackware. [23:01] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@azq61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [23:03] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:07] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [23:13] Masterx831 (n=masterx8@adsl-235-224-8.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] i'm 25 :) [23:14] jumperboy (n=jorey@gl206.websiteproject.net) joined ##slackware. [23:14] old fart [23:15] I'm 21 [23:15] i'm 20 [23:15] :| [23:15] 25 [23:15] lol [23:15] WHOS ASKING [23:15] jk [23:15] :| [23:15] what version [23:15] |: [23:15] 12.1 here [23:15] lol [23:15] Speedy059 (i=Speedy05@unaffiliated/speedy059) joined ##slackware. [23:15] 2.0 [23:15] 2.0? [23:15] old fart at 25?! Then I'm from the Jurassic [23:16] I officially hate Java. In order for it to recognize my timezone and properly adjust to Daylight Savings Time, I had to delete the symlink /usr/share/zoneinfo/localtime. Any idea if that will break anything? [23:16] lol [23:16] i am in so need for help with java [23:16] jumperboy, i'm having trouble with time zone also [23:16] I also replaced /etc/localtime with a link to the right file in /usr/share/zoneinfo [23:17] you know whos good with time zone [23:17] edman007, [23:17] and [23:17] he's also a great hooker [23:17] nachox: why the @? [23:17] lol [23:17] defending ##'s right to the throan? [23:17] acidchild: id always been tempted to ask but i'm always broke [23:17] haha [23:18] lol [23:18] wait...what? [23:18] lol, http://www.ralree.com/2009/03/02/awesome-xkcd-comic/ [23:18] nothing [23:18] Action: dartmouth runs [23:18] I accidentally in your base, HAHAHA [23:18] nachox: http://www.starrealestate.ca/listing/photos/C1560721 [23:18] lol [23:18] Action: edman007 kicks dartmouth and agentc0re [23:18] ...and acidchild [23:18] lol [23:18] I'm just concerned that /usr/share/zoneinfo/localtime existed for a reason, and don't want something else to fail because of *&#&$*(#$!! java [23:18] acidchild, persuasive measures, some channel users decided it was a good idea to write things unsuitable for children usage [23:18] Action: acidchild gutts edman007 [23:19] ow [23:19] nachox: the sight of edman007 is not for child usage. [23:19] Action: agentc0re shoots edman007 with the eel cannon after putting lemon juice all over the eels [23:19] Nick change: Guest76550 -> tank-man [23:20] edman007, i'm having trouble with time zone as well it says 4:28am and its only 11:20pm and i',m using xfce [23:20] ok, so apparently when i installed those packages from -current that say they can be used with 12.2 i broke amarok, and its the only kdeapp i use, so i removepkg'd 'kde*' along with all the kde4 packages i had tried to install, and im going to do the kde4 back in after that...(christ, help please) [23:20] nachox, that was me [23:20] among others, yes [23:20] I started it [23:21] I'm good for that..but..I help every now and then [23:21] nachox: kill them all! [23:21] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [23:21] respect my authoritar! [23:22] hi all [23:24] Masterx831, move [23:26] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:26] lol [23:27] Thu Mar 19 23:27:35 EDT 2009 [23:27] see, its 23:27 which is correct [23:28] jimisrvrox (n=chatzill@75-173-46-21.albq.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:28] acidchild, :P [23:28] euueuirc.freenode.ne.ipa [23:28] ops [23:28] anybody good with wireless nic's in here? ive got this wmp54gcs that will not PnP w/xubuntu along with other issues..have already tried other linux chans and nobody has offered to help.. [23:33] no is not [23:33] bash-3.1# clock [23:33] Thu 11 Nov 2004 04:43:05 AM EST -0.073006 seconds [23:33] jimisrvrox: are you using slackware? [23:34] unfortunately no but I figure slack people would be pretty good at *nix considering the 'difficulty' of operating the distro. [23:34] i'd say that's a compliment :) what have you tried already? [23:34] ##slackware =! #ubuntu [23:34] im using xubuntu and have only been on linux for ehh 8 months...so im just trying to get some help somehwere..this thing is driving me nuts [23:35] mshade: you're felling generous tonight, are you? [23:35] jimisrvrox, not going to get much help here if youre not using slackware [23:35] heh [23:35] umm ok so command line stuff is diff in slack? [23:36] the scripts are different, amongst other things. [23:36] not really [23:36] no but settings and stuff are different mostlikey and to find out would mean us playing 20 questions [23:36] oh ok well that sucks for me! [23:36] maybe install slackware [23:36] jimisrvrox: No it doesn't. [23:36] jimisrvrox: Just means you need to install Slackware. [23:37] you'll learn a lot doing so. [23:37] im sure I will Ive heard that before.. [23:37] slackware isn't hard to install [23:37] it's configuring that is i guess [23:37] hey, last night I plugged a new usb external hard drive on a machine running slack 12.0, it automatically created /dev/sda so I proceeded to partition and format the drive... Icopied a bunch of files into the drive and later I unplugged it and used it on a windows pc... Now i plugged it back into the slackware box and /dev/sda is not showing up [23:38] lsusb is not showing it either [23:38] anyone knows what is wrong? [23:38] did you turn the power button on? [23:38] jota-: Does it work in another machine still? I had a similar problem and the problem ended up being that the device had died. [23:38] yes [23:38] syph (i=1000@24.96.132.100) joined ##slackware. [23:38] sounds hardware [23:38] molafishPrime (n=efu@c-76-127-78-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:39] or lack of usb support loaded [23:39] jimisrvrox: Read, slackbook.org. Decide from there. [23:39] wel like I said I just used it a few minutes ago [23:39] alright agent [23:39] and I laso have usb support loaded because I used it yesterday on that same box [23:40] jimisrvrox: I would also do some research on your wireless device and see if anyone else has got it to work with any other distro out there or if it can be found as supported in the kernel.. etc. etc. [23:40] ok so then I would guess that driver support for hardware would vary depending on what distro you are using then [23:41] jimisrvrox: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/susenovell-60/wmp54g-suse-10-beta-4-373408/ [23:41] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:41] depends on what the default kernel supports [23:41] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:41] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:41] jimisrvrox: yes and no. Really depends if the device has native kernel support or not and then what kernel version X-distro is using. [23:42] i see.. [23:42] syph (i=1000@24.96.132.100) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [23:45] well with my nic's I got the wusb54gcs and of course tried to ndis the thing and kept getting ERROR: interrupt flags: no such device found(similar to that) after I would do -m to give it an alias before rebooting [23:45] RedBull (n=RedBull@189-041-69-024.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:45] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@azq61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:46] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@azq61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [23:46] boa noite [23:47] so I got nice and frustrated and thought ok well rev1 PnP'ed but rev2 doesnt..so I'll just take a swing at a PCI instead..well now..I get SIOCSIFFLAGS: no such file and I think it is seen as wlan1 but if I do ifconfig wlan1 up I get the error.. [23:47] umm I just plugged the drive into one of the motheboard's usb 1.0 ports and it worked... yesterday I used it on usb 2.0 port which is on pci board and it worked perfectly, anyone know what may have caus it to stop working? it's still showing up on lspci... [23:48] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:49] BP{k}: http://failblog.org/2009/03/19/breakfast-fail-2/ Totally not a fail for us :P [23:50] I don't have any plugged in now, but i don't think lspci shows when a usb device is plugged in, that's what lsusb is for. [23:50] lspci would see the usb controller. [23:50] RedBull (n=RedBull@189-041-69-024.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:52] jota-, try looking at the output of dmesg [23:52] lucasagomes (n=lucasgom@189-47-243-117.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:52] Yeam im on it [23:52] ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: fatal error [23:53] lostnhell (n=Unknown@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [23:54] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:54] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:57] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:57] is hci-hcd a module? [23:57] *ehci_hcd [23:57] jota-: lemme guess. a webcam? [23:57] hard drive [23:57] agentc0re: well it *Does* misses meat ;) [23:57] BP{k}: Might be on the other side for all we know ;) [23:58] rworkman: you here? [23:59] straterra: http://failblog.org/2008/07/15/chair-design-fail-2/ remind you of something earlier? ;) [23:59] agentc0re: you can't have a true breakfast without bacon ;) [23:59] i'm off to sleep, night guy [23:59] s [23:59] BP{k}: Heh, that reminds me of the movie Anchorman. Seen it? [23:59] nachox: Laters man. [23:59] jumperboy (n=jorey@gl206.websiteproject.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:00] --- Fri Mar 20 2009