[00:00] run >> //192.168.x.x [00:00] wrong [00:00] \\ [00:00] then IP [00:00] yeah [00:00] that :P [00:00] Reticenti: Is that for me? [00:01] you will can also do smb://IP [00:01] powtrix (n=powtrix@189.69.21.191) left irc: "fui" [00:01] stanne_: yes [00:01] In slackware, you'd use forward slashes. [00:02] when i log into slack, and it says "0 unread messages" how can i link that to my email? [00:02] i start at l3 [00:03] spooge (n=spooge@173-18-193-232.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:03] fire|bird: nice shortcut for midori..... CTRL-SHIFT-DEL..:D [00:03] MLanden: ooh what dos it do? [00:03] s/dos/does [00:04] Clears cache...like firefox [00:04] Reticenti: My question is how to get XP to authenticate with the samba server. (Login with user and password). [00:04] I think there is some sort of problem with encryption... [00:04] stanne_: when you do that, it should pop up with a authentication window [00:04] stanne_: uhmm, by setting up the user properly in samba [00:05] when i log into slack, and it says "0 unread messages" how can i link that to my email? [00:05] Reticenti: that is your e-mail. [00:05] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-152-34-93.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] ananke: but how do i link it? i've never configured it because i dont know where it is getting the info [00:06] Reticenti: define 'link it' [00:06] ananke: it doesnt know my email info, so how can i give it the email info? [00:06] Reticenti: It does, (pup up with an authentication window), but authentication fails. [00:06] Reticenti: it's e-mail for the local account. [00:07] stanne_: did you set up the user in samba? [00:07] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:07] ananke: is it possible to link that to gmail? [00:07] ananke: How does one set up the user properly? [00:07] Reticenti: you could try fetchmail [00:07] ananke: smbpasswd -a susan [00:07] ananke: and smbpasswd -a roger [00:07] stanne_: that way. now check logs in /var/log/samba/ [00:08] and susan and roger are also users on the system itself [00:09] ananke: where is that mail stored at? [00:09] Reticenti: /var/spool/mail/ [00:09] thanks [00:09] MLanden: haha, nice. :) [00:10] just messin' with it and tried it ..:D [00:10] yeah, it's really nice. [00:10] Still building on the laptop, webkit takes a while. [00:11] 72.29.1.235 (::ffff:172.29.1.235) couldn't find service usr [00:13] stanne_: you may want to increase the debug level. i find that 2 is a good balance between important messages and junk: log level = 2 [00:13] keres (i=keres@ppp-70-249-66-3.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:13] good luck with that, i'm out [00:13] MLanden: Also an option to have the tabs listed on the left side in the side bar. [00:13] http://pastebin.ca/1571514 [00:13] sweet [00:13] ananke: I'll try that [00:14] How do I change log level? [00:14] mido_ (n=muhammed@79.173.214.145.go.com.jo) joined ##slackware. [00:15] does anyone here use mutt with gmail? [00:15] guyz [00:15] i'v just downloaded slackware's ISOs ,, i dunno how to burn them in one dvd???? [00:16] what os are you on? [00:16] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-21-191.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:16] Ubuntu 8.1 [00:16] and did you d/l the cd iso, or the dvd iso? [00:16] nice, midori has the inspector too, like arora. [00:16] downloaded CD isos [00:16] go here ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/slackware/slackware-13.0-iso/ [00:17] mido_: There is also a dvd iso available. [00:17] fire|bird, hey [00:17] oahong` (n=user@220.112.84.136) joined ##slackware. [00:17] hey nyRednek [00:17] ya i now,, but i was afraid to get DC. and lose my data [00:17] mido_: http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/03/4-ways-to-create-cddvd-iso-images-in.html [00:17] fire|bird, how goes it? [00:17] habaneros (n=habanero@71.250.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:17] phillipsm (n=chatzill@173-20-30-13.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [00:17] mido_: Better off to just burn the CDs [00:17] nyRednek: great, thanks. you? [00:18] fire|bird, i think i'm going to quit the road [00:18] mido_: If you wanted the DVD image, why didn't you download it? [00:18] stanne_: I already downloaded CD [00:18] fire|bird, drive a bus or an ambulette [00:18] nyRednek: Not liking the trucking much anymore? [00:18] fire|bird, not liking missing out on my girls' development [00:18] stanne_: cuz i was afraid to get DC while i was downloading [00:19] mido_: I think it would be a complicated process to combine them into a DVD image. [00:19] nyRednek: yeah, that's understandable. [00:19] mido_: You should use wget [00:19] stanne_: go here dude ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/slackware/slackware-13.0-iso/ [00:20] wget -c http://link.to.iso [00:20] i downloaded [00:20] pine, alpine, or mutt [00:20] for wat the optition -c? [00:20] ? [00:20] which one should i use [00:20] (or another one) [00:21] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [00:21] Rat409: I'm sure some have used one of those with gmail, I know google has some howto's for setting it up with mutt [00:21] fire|bird, i LOVE the road, but if i can't take the family with me, it's not really worthwhile [00:21] oahong` (n=user@220.112.84.136) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:21] fire|bird, i'd love to get a couple of synth heads and the family together in a ford econoline and tour [00:22] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-21-191.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:22] nyRednek: Hey, there ya go. :) [00:22] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-21-191.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:22] fire|bird: i cant find the google guide for mutt and gmail [00:22] oahong` (n=user@220.112.84.136) joined ##slackware. [00:23] dont think it exists anymoe [00:23] Reticenti: Well, here's one: http://www.andrews-corner.org/mutt.html [00:23] Here's two: http://shreevatsa.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/using-gmail-with-mutt-the-minimal-way/ [00:24] Reticenti: would you like him to set it up for you as well? [00:24] chopp: yeah, if he can come over to my house, that'd be great [00:24] :| [00:24] then you're not meant to be a slacker. :P [00:24] actually, slackwiki's mutt guide is setting up gmail w/i mutt [00:25] chopp: :'-( [00:25] Reticenti: well there you go, get configuring now. :P [00:25] mido_: wget -c ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0-iso [00:25] or: [00:25] oahong (n=user@unaffiliated/samigarus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:25] would you suggest mutt as the command line email client? [00:26] ncat [00:26] hba (n=hba@189.188.149.23) joined ##slackware. [00:26] :D [00:26] lol [00:26] maybe i should just read the raw stream of encrypted data and decrypt it in my head [00:27] that's how real men do it, right? [00:27] yeah, but you have to be a real man, so, get there first, then try the raw stream stuff. [00:27] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-21-191.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:27] lol [00:27] be like CNR...:D [00:27] stanne_: i got " wget -c ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0-iso " this when i open slackware-13.0-install-d1.iso.asc [00:28] :| [00:28] sorry .. error in typing [00:28] mido_: you have to change the url to the dvd iso [00:28] weird al's parody of white stripes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrGmD2wk8m4 [00:29] yay i'm reding my opera rss feeds!!! [00:29] monkeys groove to their own music [00:29] mido_: Just a sec.. [00:29] aint news wonderful? [00:29] no [00:29] pff [00:29] ok stanne_ [00:30] MLanden is that a recent Al tune? [00:30] yeah...it came out last month [00:30] k [00:30] i like Al [00:30] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [00:30] i got "signing key not in keyring" when i opend slackware-13.0-install-d3.iso.asc [00:31] Quiznos: you know who Charles Nelson Reilly was,right? [00:32] neonflux_ (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [00:32] neonflux (n=mrjones@98.97.244.102) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [00:33] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [00:33] wget -c http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0-iso/slackware-13.0-install-dvd.iso [00:33] for 32 bit [00:33] aha ... thanx stanne_ [00:34] dude [00:34] i got " signing key not in keyring" [00:34] when i opend slackware13.0-install-d3.iso.asc [00:35] Quiznos: Monkeys groovin' to their own music? they've been doin' in for some time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFAWdIiyWSE&feature=related [00:36] fire|bird: some good keyboardin' in it...:D [00:36] phillipsm (n=chatzill@173-20-30-13.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [00:36] MLanden: ok, consider it bookmarked. :) thanks [00:36] "Officials: Another bone found on kidnapping suspects' property", "45000 American deaths associated with lack of insurance", "Rival Rallies Turn Violent in Tehran", "Megan Fox sex tape? Don't you just wish" [00:36] the news sucks! [00:38] mido_: wget -c http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0-iso/slackware64-13.0-install-dvd.iso [00:38] for 64bit [00:39] stanne_: thnx a lot man... [00:39] np [00:40] i'd pay the guy who made the minthesizer to make me a cigar box model [00:40] phillipsm (n=phillips@173-20-30-13.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [00:40] with a wider keyboard and labelled controls [00:40] I sometimes make a download script [00:41] zaccour (n=robert@97.89.53.49) joined ##slackware. [00:41] slackware sucks [00:41] then don't use it and leave [00:41] phillipsm (n=phillips@173-20-30-13.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Client Quit [00:42] It isn't supported well enough to matter, i.e. security fixes are [00:42] not available nearly fast enough. [00:42] phillipsm (n=phillips@173-20-30-13.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [00:42] i, unfortunately, dropped it, but don't trash it here, still consider it a great distro [00:42] It has no package management system. Every other Linux [00:42] distribution does [00:42] nyRednek: What are you using now? :P [00:42] fire|bird, i don't want to admit [00:43] tavl_ (n=tavl@189.70.159.54) joined ##slackware. [00:43] zaccour, then go use one of those other distributions [00:43] It DOES have a package management system, pkgtools, along with installpkg, upgradepkg, and removepkg. [00:43] nyRednek: OMG, you aren't using........ :P [00:43] fire|bird, correct [00:43] Epic troll failure [00:43] fire|bird, yeah, debian [00:43] indeed, agentc0re [00:43] zaccour: sorry - paackage management in slackware is very nice [00:43] nyRednek: Well, that's better than Ubuntu :P [00:44] Can't even construct his/her sentences correctly. [00:44] fire|bird, honestly, i can't tell the difference [00:44] anyone successed configuring a radeon X1650 family card @ slack 13? [00:44] It doesn't follow the Linux Filesystem Standard, or anything else, [00:44] as near as I can tell, which simply complicates things. [00:44] [00:44] Slackware is early 1994 Linux technology. It is an outdated toy. It [00:44] was fun then, but it is time to move on. [00:44] nyRednek: I ran Debian before coming to Slackware, it is a nice distro. [00:44] zaccour: Do you seriously have nothing better to do? [00:45] zaccour: a little faster, i don't think i caught that all. [00:45] (or any similar card, not included in the last ATI proprietary drivers) [00:45] fire|bird, again, i can't really tell difference between debian and ubuntu [00:45] zaccour: you might want to update your sources of information or troll elsewhere [00:45] zaccour: Good, then move on and get out. [00:45] typical friday night crackhead sorta speak [00:45] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [00:45] blackula_ (n=blackula@97.81.105.128) joined ##slackware. [00:45] zaccour: btw - which was the last time you used slackware for more than 5 minutes? [00:45] nyRednek: Debian is probably more stable. I ran testing and then went to unstable. [00:45] alisonken1home: he tried installing it before but he couldn't get it to work. [00:45] according to my logs [00:46] he's using Ubuntu right now. [00:46] fire|bird, as far as package repo, they appear identical, and config works the same way with both [00:46] interesting [00:46] godling: yup, coulding install it, gave up, so now is trashing it. [00:46] if he didn't lie [00:46] debian is good on the mips archs [00:46] couldn't* [00:46] nyRednek: Yeah [00:46] MLanden: I've got debian running on a mips vm [00:46] :D [00:46] zaccour (n=robert@97.89.53.49) left irc: "Leaving" [00:47] SQlvpapir__ (n=teis@188.177.95.62) joined ##slackware. [00:47] \o/, he's gone [00:47] he'll be back [00:47] and the ops will sit idly by [00:48] fire|bird, zyn kept breaking on me and i don't have time to keep fixing it, but i MUST use zyn [00:48] fire|bird, since debian's zyn works like a charm, that's what i moved to [00:48] godling: it's awesome on the handheld pc's with icewm [00:48] nyRednek: yeah, that's a good reason to switch then if you need that working, instead of continuing to fight it. [00:49] MLanden: handheld? you mean like zaurus and the like? [00:49] fire|bird, that is by no means a trash of slack [00:49] nyRednek: No, I know. :) [00:49] correct [00:49] well, not like Zaurus 'cause Zaurus isn't mips [00:49] fire|bird, since zyn is not a part of slack, but a part of a 3rd rate slackbuild/binary repo [00:50] why is the slackbuild third rate, nyRednek? [00:50] godling, talking about slacky [00:50] godling, zyn's slackbuild is only available on slacky's repo [00:51] Nick change: tavl_ -> tavl [00:51] godling, and that particular slackbuild produces an unstable binary [00:52] what is zyn? [00:52] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@188.177.95.62) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:52] zynaddsubfx? [00:52] godling: yes [00:53] godling, yeah [00:53] godling, i sequence through it [00:53] http://home.gna.org/zyn/ <-- this? [00:53] godling, i only like to make a FEW custom patches in my tracks [00:54] alisonken1home, no [00:54] alisonken1home, http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net [00:54] k [00:54] mido_ (n=muhammed@79.173.214.145.go.com.jo) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [00:54] and i make custom patches on amsynth [00:55] which, now due to some recent development, works beautifully on both slack and debian [00:55] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:55] for a while, it would crash [00:55] the link I posted was for a subproject to convert synaddsubfx synth engines to lv2 plugin format [00:55] alisonken1home, yeah, i knew that... [00:56] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [00:56] alisonken1home, but i like the patches that come loaded into zynaddsubfx [00:56] ok [00:56] alisonken1home, they work well when sequenced through rosegarden [00:56] ah [00:56] http://www.slacky.eu/aadm/pkgs/index.php?ver=6&pkg=1734 [00:56] is that the package you're using? [00:57] alisonken1home, i've never quite figured out how to make custom patches with zyn, btw...i like the interface on amsynth [00:57] godling, it's the one i WAS using [00:57] I never really got into sequencing too much on Linux [00:58] two oscillators is good enough for most work [00:59] godling, i tell you, that slackbuild really sucks [00:59] that's not a slackbuild, that's a package [00:59] godling, one day, the stuff works fine, the next, you get mxml errors [00:59] :) [00:59] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.23.72) joined ##slackware. [00:59] godling, look in the repo...they have a slackbuild there [01:00] godling, if my machine can't compile it(when using slack) i don't want it [01:00] I don't really speak Italian, sorr [01:00] *sorry [01:01] blackula (n=blackula@97.81.105.128) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:03] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.78.98) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [01:05] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:13] ag3ntugly (n=x@72.47.155.154) joined ##slackware. [01:13] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:16] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) left irc: Client Quit [01:16] vdsy (n=vdsy@d198-53-106-38.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:16] vdsy (n=vdsy@d198-53-106-38.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:19] ag3ntugly (n=x@72.47.155.154) joined ##slackware. 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[01:39] it's epic so far: http://www.kernel.org/diff/diffview.cgi?file=/pub/linux/kernel//v2.6/snapshots/patch-2.6.31-git9.bz2 [01:39] vovk (n=vovk@S0106001e58e9c1bc.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:39] MLanden: Also, in midori, there's an option to set the tabs to be colored, it groups tabs with colors too, like if you have two pages from slackwiki, it will make them the same color, etc. [01:40] cool....easy on the lappie? [01:40] MLanden: It's still building, stupid webkit takes forever. :P [01:40] but it's working awesome on the desktop [01:41] will prolly install over the weekend [01:41] cool [01:41] dimm0k (n=dimm0k@pool-96-224-16-202.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:42] tavl (n=tavl@189.70.159.54) left irc: "Leaving" [01:43] kind of not work safe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU6Ji-OOkyM&feature=youtube_gdata [01:45] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:45] this one is even less work safe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss8LDBNcsWc [01:45] jescis_ (i=1000@adsl-93-66-190.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:45] lol [01:46] nositelicense (n=nositeli@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:52] fatalnix (n=bhodgins@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:52] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-85.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[02:09] this dumb ass upstairs....she is smoking inside and the smoke alarm is going crazy [02:10] I just replaced one of them too, tomorrow...50 bucks says she comes to me saying the smoke alarm is broken. [02:10] haha [02:10] well here's the deal dumbass...it is detecting smoke.... [02:10] you should go knock on her door and tell her [02:11] I am going to if it goes off again [02:11] is it battery operated or does it jack into the house electricity? [02:11] It is hardlined with battery backup and I have replaced all the batteries [02:11] last week i did this [02:11] I tested all of the alarms [02:11] fire|bird: your wake-up call: http://www.drinkstuff.com/productimg/32375_large.jpg [02:12] later,slackers..talk with y'all later [02:12] antiwire: are you the landlord? [02:12] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-154-166.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [02:12] I'm the property manager [02:12] brb [02:13] I replaced a total of (8) 9v batteries last week and two completely new detectors. they are doing exactly what they are supposed to do which is detect freaking smoke [02:13] anyone have a 60GB or higher they'd give for a trade or sdomething? [02:13] jescis: which interface? [02:13] IDE [02:14] I have SCSI SCA80, sata and ata [02:15] oooo SCSI :O~~ [02:16] But I only have sata and IDE interfaces on my mobo :( [02:16] ata == IDE right? [02:16] I've got some 80GB SATA 3.5" disks and a couple 160GB SATA 2.5" disks [02:17] yes ata=40pin style [02:17] antiwire: maybe he has an atheros or two. :P [02:17] hahaha [02:17] yeessss [02:17] that's what I'm using now [02:18] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [02:19] antiwire, My syslog file: http://pastebin.ca/1571206 [02:19] antiwire: there was somebody in here lastnight flapping off about connection issues with ath5k, saying it was junk. I just shook my head, and carried on. [02:20] I wonder which kernel they were using [02:20] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [02:21] he said 2.6.30.5 and 2.6.31 [02:21] jescis: The end of that log is not looking good. What is the output of smartctl -a /dev/hda [02:21] I can see previous kernels yeah but... [02:21] Is there no way to extract zip files in Slackware 13? [02:21] chopp: did they say if they were using an ABG or just BG chipset? [02:21] kevin01123: unzip? [02:22] antiwire: I'm not sure if he said. [02:22] antiwire, BP{k} say's the last few errors where bad and I might should back up my hard drive. [02:22] antiwire: I'm not seeing it. [02:22] jescis: what does smart tell you? [02:22] kevin01123: well it is there. [02:23] kevin, do you have the infozip package installed? [02:23] godling: hahaha [02:23] antiwire, should I reboot for that? [02:23] jescis: for what? [02:23] run the command [02:23] smart [02:24] smartctl -a /dev/hda [02:24] http://njam.sourceforge.net/ pacman-type game,slack tgz avail. [02:24] will Sim Copter work on linux ? :D [02:24] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [02:24] if smart is not enabled, try to enable it: smartctl -s on -S on /dev/hda [02:25] antiwire: so there's still issues with ABG chipsets then? [02:25] Kemil: gunzip [02:25] chopp: I'm not sure where is the issue actually resides. my ABG card is a pccard so if i can confirm the issue with someone else with ABG hardware I can get closer to pinning it down [02:26] chopp: with my ABG pccard I get random massive latency bouts and ssh will totally lock up [02:26] I can't pin it down until I buy more hardware [02:26] fire|bird: there's a really cool alarm clock that's got wheels [02:27] fire|bird: you have to get up and chase it [02:27] wohoo top score on oregon trail ! [02:27] godling: haha, nice. [02:27] antiwire: ahh ok, I was not aware of issues still. [02:27] quasar: welcome to 1974 [02:27] antiwire: with madwifi as well? [02:27] chopp: I haven't ruled out my own hardware being broken though [02:28] 1985, thank you :p [02:28] chopp: madwifi causes stuck beacons for me on all my gear so i gave up on it [02:28] wow ok [02:28] chopp: I still just need more wifi cards before I can point fingers though [02:29] antiwire, point fingers at me.. I'll just blame it on Canada as usual and all will be fine. [02:30] antiwire: yeah for sure. I might have asked already, but are you going with something for ath5k or 9k? [02:30] I should be able to make it to Fry's tomorrow sometime so I hope to pick up an atheros PCI card [02:30] chopp: If I can find ath5k gear i want to stick to that so I can provide a decent test [02:31] e01_ (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [02:31] quasar: don't be blaming us, we're innocent. [02:31] e01_ (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:31] speak for yourself [02:31] I've been advised that finding a pci card that is marketed as "108mbps" or "superG" will get me what I want [02:31] Action: godling <- pure evil [02:31] 99% of the time at least [02:32] antiwire: indeed [02:32] chopp: my exfiance is Canadian.. Canada has their fair share of blame to go around, but like I've always said, I'm more Canadian than you are! (born in Canadian, Oklahoma.. we even have a RIVER named "Canadian" which you dont!) [02:33] psh [02:33] I'm more Canadian than that [02:33] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:33] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:34] chopp: besides.. if we're blaming the french speaking part of Canada it's all good, right? [02:34] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-152-34-93.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:34] brb [02:34] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [02:35] with that you are most definatly correct. [02:35] lol [02:35] good.. after those 3 traffic fines in 3 days I'll probably never see Montreal again :) [02:35] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [02:36] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [02:37] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [02:37] how can i find my external ip address via command line [02:38] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-067-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [02:38] got to whatismyip or summit [02:38] Reticenti: links whatismyip.org [02:38] antiwire: sorry, i meant how could i output it to the screen/file? [02:39] there are bunch of those "ip revealer" sites [02:39] use curl then... [02:39] curl -s http://simple.showmyip.com [02:39] 404d [02:39] er, they moved it.. [02:39] curl whatismyip.org > myip.txt && cat myip.txt [02:41] actually, i may have found out how to do it [02:41] i have a dynamic resolver [02:41] dyndns [02:41] so i can do host mydyndns.com [02:41] ... [02:41] lynx -dump http://checkip.dyndns.org | grep "Current" | awk '{print $4}' <-- works [02:41] antiwire, output of smart: http://pastebin.ca/1571577 [02:42] oh, nice one quasar [02:42] whatismyip, as suggested by antiwire, is much simpler than all that crap [02:42] Adhok (n=Addict@76.109.161.74) joined ##slackware. [02:42] it only serves you the ip without html whatsoever [02:42] jescis: run a smart long test on that disk: smartctl -t long /dev/hda [02:42] Reticenti: or a .bashrc alias: alias myip='lynx --dump http://checkip.dyndns.com' [02:42] let it finish and recheck the smart attributes after [02:43] ok [02:43] figured whatismyip would block curl since it blocked wget.. kinda silly [02:44] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [02:44] jescis: errors which actually list LBA locations are usually bad but a smart long test will help us diagnose the issue. The reason I suggest a test is because the output you pasted does not show anything seriously wrong...yet. [02:44] Hi, Im fairly new to linux (few months) and started out using ubuntu. I've heard a bit about slackware lately and want to try it out. 1) how hard is it to set up duel monitors, 2) does it allow for proprietary drivers (Nvidia) 3) and how different is it from ubuntu? [02:44] 1) so hard 2) yes 3) very [02:45] speaking of a bbq [02:45] lol [02:45] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:45] 1) refer to 2 - 2) refer to 3 - 3) see antiwire's reply [02:45] lol :) [02:45] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [02:45] Adhok: using slackware will make you understand linux [02:45] (if you stick with it) [02:45] oh and 4) wtfbbq [02:46] haha [02:46] heh, no chopper this time? :P [02:46] lollerskates? [02:46] quasar: whatismyip doesn't block wget [02:46] lollerz and omgzorz [02:47] rg3: maybe they just blocked -my- wget then.. still sitting there trying to connect, which I started when I mentioned it [02:47] amazingly, they didn't block -my- firefox, etc though.. hm [02:47] oh.. just popped up with a 403.. [02:48] quasar: wget -q -O - 'http://www.whatismyip.org/' prints the URL fine here [02:48] er, the page, sorry [02:48] antiwire, output of smart(with suggestion taken): http://pastebin.ca/1571579 [02:48] so then how do i find the internal network ip? [02:48] without ifocnfig [02:48] hah [02:48] ifconfig* [02:49] point me in the right direction if you don want to answer :P [02:49] rg3: that's where the mixup is.. you're using .org .. .com doesn't allow wget [02:50] jescis: smart isn't showing anything that would lead one to believe that there are real hardware errors [02:50] jescis: was this disk a cloned disk? [02:50] no [02:50] jescis: The next suggestion, which is harsh, would be to do an offline badblocks test of the whole disk [02:51] Adhok: what made you interested in sackware? [02:51] slackware even [02:51] either a read only test or a safe r/w test [02:51] it has windows and slackware 12.2 sharing half of 40GB for each. [02:52] so is it possible to find my internal ip address w/o ifconfig? [02:52] 20GB for windows, and 17 for Slack with the remainder for swap :) [02:52] Reticenti: traceroute? [02:53] oh, um well I've gotten interested in C (even downloaded the 2.6 kernel to take a look at the source, fun stuff.. but pointers were giving me hella trouble, so a friend told me to learn MIPS to get a better understanding, and in researching how to start that in about a week, I ran aground the HITB programing section of their boards.. one of their programers in a response to another individual told him to try out slackware.. so ) [02:53] Reticenti: the "ip" command can be used too, but there may be no single "internal ip address" [02:53] antiwire, what would I use for these tests? [02:53] Adhok: read the K&R book [02:54] rg3: i mean my lan ip address, 192.168.x.x [02:54] Reticenti: refer to my previous sentence :) [02:54] fdisk? cfdisk? or something else entirely? [02:54] Adhok: I'm learning pointers in my cs class right now, if you want, i could help you out [02:55] net lookup host [02:55] I have it but its on my to do list, reading Andrew S. Tanenbaum(guy who wrote MINIX) "Modern Operating Systems".. this is all a hobby though so im not really pressed for time [02:55] quasar: will that find my lan ip addresS/ [02:55] carboncopy (i=carbonco@monkey.my) joined ##slackware. [02:55] Reticenti, I need some pointers on pointers ;) [02:55] jescis: lol, really/ [02:55] ? [02:56] Reticenti: try it.. just change the to your computer's hostname [02:56] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:56] quasar: which package holds the "net" program? i don't have it here... [02:56] quasar: that gave me 127.0.0.1 [02:57] Reticenti, nah, I use ASM and BASIC. I'm sticking with programming the easier Apple ][ so I get good ;) [02:57] so it probably reads /etc/hosts [02:57] hmm, it may be samba [02:58] Reticenti, also I thought you'd get a kick out of that funny ;) [02:58] rg3: sorry, didn't see your question, one sec [02:58] yep, samba [02:59] ppp (n=ppp@adsl-68-124-22-75.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:59] Reticenti: Thanks a ton for the offer, getting some help though atm (by teaching me assembly and letting me see how pointers actually work w/ the hardware) by a friend who used to be a system programmer in my sys' admin class, so hopefully I should be all right in a couple weeks ;p [02:59] ahh [02:59] cool [02:59] just remember that a pointer can only hold the address of something [02:59] Reticenti, I also have a book on C. But I'll never be good at programming until I get the basics down ;) [02:59] jescis: i have the basics down, just trying to learn more [03:00] but that's what CS classes are for :) [03:00] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-24.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:00] just learned pointers and structs (c++) [03:00] i have arrays done really well though lol [03:00] s/done/down [03:01] Reticenti, last teacher I had programming class with said my logic was screwed >.> [03:01] jescis: lol, that sucks [03:01] I need to go back to college ;/ [03:01] in my class, as long as it works, it is ok [03:01] Is Qemu any better now? Last time I tried it, the performance was really laggy [03:01] but the prof tells you if you don't do good programmingnow, later you're basically screwed [03:02] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-85.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:03] yeah, I've made hello world apps and tried to inplant code from a book and got like 80 some errors/warnings :\ [03:03] Arr, today be Talk like a Pirate day [03:03] yarrrrrrrr [03:04] antiwire, arr, I love me pirates ;) [03:04] arrrrgghh [03:04] yarrr, so it is [03:04] jescis: my latest program was manipulating a 3d array..... [03:04] vovk (n=vovk@S0106001e58e9c1bc.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [03:04] jescis: basically a grid of names, and i had to swap the rows, reverse the rows, reverse names, swap names, etc etc [03:04] Reticenti, I bet you can't do it in ASM on an 8-bit machine ;) [03:05] nope, i dont know assembly [03:05] it's the best! especially for the easier 6502 ;) [03:06] lol [03:06] easier as in codes/mnumonics are easier to remember ;) [03:06] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.85.219.186) joined ##slackware. [03:06] i'll stick to c++ lol [03:07] write the shortest program whose output is exactly the same as the source code [03:07] your choice of language [03:07] although the 80x86 has some easy to remember mnumonics ;) [03:07] mancha: that's an interesting challenge [03:09] mancha, the question is does it need to print the hex values or the mnumonics? asdm can be shown in both forms ;) [03:10] /s/asdm/asm [03:10] we were joking about this in the channel the other day and then today it happened...I ended up in a barnacle patch and I stepped on one and it bit a chunk of flesh out of my foot.... [03:10] mancha: #!/bin/bash [03:10] cat filename.sh [03:10] :) [03:10] two linez [03:10] if you wanna do it in machine language your choice, hexadecimal opcodes and data or disassembled code [03:11] Ye barnacles not be too well for ye feet [03:11] barnacles are nasty little buggers mate [03:11] Ret, nice. now add the restriction that you can't access the source code from the code [03:12] mancha: what do you mean? [03:12] the source code is +x not +r [03:12] ah [03:13] Well, me hearties, lets see what crawls out of the ##slackware bung hole tonight. :P [03:14] ah chopp, me matey, thou be lookin' spry tonight! [03:14] mancha: that's a little challengeing [03:14] i'll think about it [03:15] Back from thee pub and I be sloshing at mah docks [03:15] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.22.107) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:16] woot! Barney's on [03:16] vovk (n=vovk@S0106001e58e9c1bc.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:16] you have issues quasar [03:17] Arrr some mighty fine grog [03:17] mancha: can it be done? [03:17] yes [03:17] mkm [03:18] can it be done with bash? [03:18] well try to come up with one [03:18] antiwire: I run with scissors too :) [03:18] antiwire: Those barnacle eaters just stole our gold! [03:19] keel hull tha land luving lilly lickers [03:19] .. y'all are making me want to go play WoW.. stop it -_- [03:20] Load the Cannon! [03:20] Shiver me timbers! [03:21] Ret, yes, i've seen bash examples [03:21] We're under attack! Avast ye swabs! repel the invaders ! [03:21] oct linux journal has some good stuff for hacking code. coreboot,fpga,clutter,android etc... [03:21] mancha: am i allowed to call chmod in the program? lol [03:21] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:22] mancha:#!/bin/bash [03:22] chmod +r filename.sh [03:22] cat filename.sh [03:22] Channel flood from Reticenti -- kicking [03:22] lol [03:22] Reticenti kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [03:22] yarr, me be happy I'm in me shanty! [03:22] Reticenti (n=reticent@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [03:22] :| [03:23] What say ye, ya skurvy dog! [03:23] Nick change: notKlaatu -> zzzKlaatu [03:23] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:23] yarrr forgive me for breaking ye ballast [03:24] Ya horn swogglin' landlubber! [03:24] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [03:27] and with that, I head for me cabin. [03:28] I do not recommend Hershey's marshmallow pumpkins. [03:28] i really need to learn perl [03:29] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:30] Reticenti, perl isn't that hard. just like any other high level /interpretted language >.> [03:30] fhobia (n=fhobia@67.188.69.121) joined ##slackware. [03:31] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:31] jescis: yeah,but i need to learn the basics of programming first [03:33] fhobia (n=fhobia@67.188.69.121) left irc: Client Quit [03:33] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:33] john_dee (n=id@93-81-118-71.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:33] C/C++/perl/pascal/BASIC are all easy to learn(I can put code in a file for any language). Most just aren't easy to master ;) [03:34] yeah [03:34] Action: fhobia successfully upgraded from 12.2 to 13.0 :-) [03:34] :) [03:34] and i have DRI out of the box without fglrx ! [03:35] !? [03:35] of course BASIC != VB though. That's another easy to learn hard to master language of its own ;) [03:37] i dont really have any desire to learn vb or basic [03:38] anything to do with dri in slack out of the box ? [03:38] python, perl, c++, and maybe php are the only ones i really have interest in [03:38] Action: fhobia has used software rendering so long [03:38] guess i could use kde with that compiz thing or whatever [03:38] good it has the chance of making you learn bad programming habbits ;) [03:39] oh, and cobol possibly [03:39] oh, and bash, awk, and sed [03:41] eh, whatever. My Apple by itself has Applesoft BASIC and 6502 Assembler/debugger/monitor >.> [03:41] and I have S-C Assembler on floppy for it ;) [03:42] lol [03:42] i'll stick with g++ [03:42] I could get Aztec C too >.> [03:42] But I need more floppies -_- [03:43] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-154-166.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:43] y0 MLanden [03:43] y0 fire|bird [03:44] hahaha, http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/china60_09_18/c36_20360557.jpg [03:44] lol [03:45] damn...that's devotion [03:45] no doubt [03:45] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-78-241.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:45] Adhok, hahaha, funny nick ;) [03:46] danke ;p [03:46] Adhoc v. Adhok XD [03:46] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [03:46] kinda blows what John Lennon sang.....If you go carrying pictures of Charman Mao....you're not going to make it with anyone anyhow [03:47] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [03:47] s/Charman/Chairman [03:47] MLanden, is that a song he did as a beatles member or solo? [03:47] Adhoc is my nick in a lot of forums, just not available most the time [03:48] ah cool [03:48] Revolution...off the white album [03:48] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [03:48] MLanden, ah ok ;) [03:48] hahaha, http://imgur.com/hRUjz.jpg [03:49] might look at my song book with that song in it ;) [03:49] How would you go about copying every sub-directory in a directory in another directory. [03:49] ?* [03:49] cp -r /path/to/directory /path/to/new/directory [03:50] ahh, good ol' recursion [03:50] helps in all situations ;) [03:50] inman (n=root@p579B4ED5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [03:51] indeed [03:51] you should googl recursion [03:51] it's pretty awesome [03:51] Would that copy every file in that directory? [03:52] What I'm trying to do is copy all the subfolders in my music folder, without copying the music folder itself, to another location. [03:52] Reticenti, definately [03:52] wow, http://thecontaminated.com/house-built-from-lego/ [03:52] lol,fire|bird he's the one to see if it's been up for more than 4 hours [03:52] MLanden: hahaha [03:52] /s/Reticenti/ kevin01123 [03:52] anyone know how can i create a shortcut key for changing keyboards layout on XFCE. I'm totally new there! [03:52] kevin01123: man cp(1) [03:52] kevin01123: so you want ~/music/* copied, but not ~/music? [03:53] kevin01123: ok, you want everything in the music folder, so cp -are * /path/to/new/directory (do this IN the music folder) [03:53] xfce4 should have a keyboard plugin [03:53] err s/are/-r/ [03:53] -are mattey [03:53] MLanden: where could it be? [03:53] Reticenti: "cp -r ~/Music/* /somewhere/over/the/rainbow"? [03:54] chopp: haha, stupid pidgin auto fix thing. :P [03:54] haha [03:54] kevin01123: that should work [03:54] kevin01123: no, that'll take the music folder too [03:54] oh/ [03:54] yeah [03:54] :( [03:54] inman: go to your panel ... right click..... add new items...should be keyboard layouts [03:54] kevin01123: from in the music folder, cp -r * /path/to/new/directory [03:55] fire|bird: have I ever mentioned irssi? ;) [03:55] chopp: switching to it now. :D [03:55] fire|bird: Alright, thanks. [03:55] \o/ [03:55] i always run rissi [03:55] irssi* [03:55] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [03:55] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:55] chopp: and I remembered to identify this time. :P [03:55] MLanden: nothings like that! [03:55] Reticenti, gues what?... me too :D [03:55] kevin01123: you're welcome [03:56] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [03:56] fire|bird: yup I noticed. :P [03:56] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:56] i love irssi [03:56] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:56] inman what do you see when you right click and go to add new items? [03:56] How do you make crontab to use a command like "sudo tar .... backup.tar" every day? can crontab use sudo? [03:56] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [03:57] Reticenti, better then a sharp stick too the eye ;) [03:57] Keiffer: sudo crontab -e yourusername [03:57] Keiffer: It can if you have sudo set up [03:57] Lalloso (n=h4x0r@62.123.95.200) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:57] then read up on how cron works, and put it in the file it give you [03:57] Reticenti: that's not what he means. [03:57] oh [03:58] you could do crontap -e root couldnt he? [03:58] crontab* [03:58] Keiffer: If you have sudo setup for your user, you can use sudo in crontab [03:58] MLanden: the only thing, which probably could help is luncher in add new items list! [03:58] *launcher [03:59] inman: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-xkb-plugin [03:59] Keiffer: like, * * * * * sudo tar backup_etc.tar.gz /etc [04:00] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:00] Reticenti, maybe fire|bird can help Keiffer and you can stop multitasking. you might be stressing out your brain ;) [04:00] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:00] jescis: it's just late, and i misread his question :) [04:01] avoid pain, don't strain your brain. ;) [04:01] ...one problem with slack 13 so far ...arrow keys don't work o_o [04:01] fire|bird, lol funny! XD [04:01] fhobia: how so? [04:01] Reticenti Quiznos Quiznos Reticenti [04:01] Any certain thing they don't work with or? [04:01] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-24.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [04:02] fire|bird: in xterm and in this irssi ... [04:02] chopp: They're brothers, they're happy and their singing and their....... [04:02] chopp: waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat [04:02] argh, s/their/they're/ [04:02] lol [04:03] fhobia: Ok, so switching windows with the arrows doesn't work? [04:03] You're using Alt + Arrow keys? [04:03] no just arrow keys to like edit the command line [04:04] up and down work [04:04] Action: fhobia scratches his head [04:04] left right just doesn't work [04:04] fhobia: but are you using Alt + arrow keys, arrow keys alone aren't mapped to anything in irssi [04:04] oeueo [04:04] oeue [04:05] no i wasn't using alt + arrow [04:05] test [04:05] ok, alt means enter [04:05] . . . . [04:05] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-90-126.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:05] obnauticus (n=l@c-71-236-194-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:06] MLanden: its work, thank you! [04:06] cool,inman [04:07] inman you might want to go to http://slackbuilds.com/repository/13.0/desktop/ and check what else you might want to include [04:08] kiyoura_ (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:08] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:08] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-78-241.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:08] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:09] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-1-213.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:10] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [04:11] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [04:11] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:11] MLanden: thank you, im useing since a longtime slackBuilds! but i am new on XFCE cuz KDE 4.2 is suck! [04:13] sounds awesome,inman [04:13] inman, what makes kde 4.2 suck v. kde 3.5? [04:17] the fact that it changed the way users were used to working with it [04:17] it's just different; not sure that makes it worse [04:18] same thing was said 'bout KDE3 after KDE2 [04:18] fire|bird: seems to be http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/evdev-causing-dead-keys-755625/?highlight=keyboard+evdev [04:19] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [04:20] well inman says it sucks and since I'm still on kde 3.5 and slack 12.2. I'd like to know why it sucks in his opinion >.> [04:20] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-90-126.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:20] 1.its not stable. it freezes easily 2. it has too many things which works and i didn't need them, and stopping them need graduating for kde! 3. i can not enjoy the graphic design, cuz it make my labtop so slowly! ( i have 2 GB ram and 1.7 GHz Processor ) but KDE 3.5 works amazing easy and without any issue! kde 4.2 for me is a beta version, which we should test for kde developer! [04:20] Hello! [04:21] hello shik4nt4z4 [04:22] fhobia: experienced the same thing with some of my multimedia keys..thanks [04:22] alas not sure what the permanent fix is ...actually i don't even know what the problem is really yet [04:23] inman, well that does suck. :\ [04:23] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [04:23] inman: Have you disabled nepomuk? What freezes, all of kde or certain apps? I've used kde 4.2.4, 4.3.0, and 4.3.1 and haven't experienced any freezing. My laptop is 2GHz 512MB ram and kde4 runs great. [04:24] Action: jescis demands the kde test more! [04:24] nepomuk is the most retarded part of kde ever [04:24] fhobia: That forum you referenced doesn't mention arrow keys in irssi at all. [04:25] oh, arrow keys didn't work in any X apps [04:25] seems to be some HAL issue [04:25] mel_ (i=1000@117.255.73.36) joined ##slackware. [04:25] fhobia: Well, you didn't say it was ANY X apps before. :P [04:25] irssi isn't an X app... Xterm is but not irssi >.> [04:25] if u deactivate all of graphic thing to win speed, its look really suck! i have on 2 of my laptops kde 3.5 and they works really good! i have experience with kde 4.3 too and i should say that works really better as kde 4.2. they worked on 3000 bugs. so i can not understand why patrik didn't take kde 4.3 [04:26] 8-) [04:26] sometimes i think he runs out of time [04:26] like the last release didn't have gimp 2.6 and that had been out a long time [04:26] release date I reckon inman [04:26] inman: Did you disable nepomuk at all? [04:27] MLanden: I think that it will end up in current eventually. [04:27] yeah i did it by first login! [04:27] yup,fire|bird [04:28] inman: Well, I ask because you said it has many things that need a graduation from KDE to disable. :) [04:28] I haven't found it that way at all. [04:28] haha no, i wallet has f**** me up! [04:29] o_o [04:29] Anyway, time to get going, it's 03:28. Later guys. Take Care. [04:29] seeya, fire|bird [04:29] see ya fhobia [04:29] later MLanden [04:29] see ya fire|bird :) [04:29] later,fire|bird [04:29] see ya jescis [04:29] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [04:29] later! [04:30] inman, too late hot plate ;) [04:30] :D [04:31] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-067-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:31] guess i'd better learn this hal stuff :-/ [04:32] fhobia, they did have a laboritory that made great games ;) [04:33] ? :-) [04:33] fhobia: it is a PITA but it's better to have some sense of it than none [04:33] just used to xorg.conf i guess [04:33] i can see in the xorg logs that it reads the config in but decides to ignore stuff in it for fun :-) [04:34] Hal Laboritories Inc. made games like Kirby's adventure and kabuki quantim fighter to name a couple ;) [04:35] quantum? [04:35] oh gotcha, smash bros too i think [04:35] not for fun. it hates you. it does it out of spite. [04:36] Xorg is evil. [04:36] *X.org [04:37] in favour of x-free linux,godling? [04:38] godling, that's because it tries to make linux/Unix a gui and hide things to be competitive with MS windows and Mac OS ;) [04:39] nothing hidden in Linux..:D [04:40] MLanden, mainly debian/Ubuntu and the like are ;) [04:40] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.85.219.186) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:41] covered over yes...... hidden no [04:41] X.org is less evil under slackware and gentoo then those other distros >.> [04:42] covering over is just as bad as hiding. Out of sight, out of mind. You know ;) [04:43] well, i jsut tried kde [04:43] and it looks nice, but i like xfce better [04:43] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: "Leaving" [04:44] you like Mac OS too right? [04:44] not particulary [04:44] i like xfce [04:45] xfce is easier to make to look OS X like then kde or gnome >.> [04:45] take care,slackers...talk with all later [04:45] blackula__ (n=blackula@97.81.105.128) joined ##slackware. [04:45] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-154-166.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [04:46] is it possible to get more powerful compositor for xfce/ [04:46] I personally like gnome, seems sleek and simple, and I really don't want THAT much out of a gui, so long as I can read webpages and watch movies [04:46] ? [04:47] Adhok, I hjear that ;) [04:47] carboncopy (i=carbonco@monkey.my) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [04:47] /s /hjear /hear [04:47] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [04:49] Phr34k3r (i=Phr34k3r@adsl196-104-220-217-196.adsl196-15.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [04:49] slackware uses kde right? [04:49] simple is the other wm environments like fluxbox >.> [04:50] i ended up using fvwm, because i had to add buttons that trigger bash scripts to get around all the quirks on my stupid laptop :-( [04:50] needed something ultra customizable [04:51] enable/disable fans and such :-P [04:51] Adhok: it includes kde,xfce, fluxbox, blackbox, and another one... [04:51] fvwm,windowmaker [04:51] and twm [04:52] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425725.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:52] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [04:52] blackula_ (n=blackula@97.81.105.128) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [04:53] kozandr (n=kozandr@92.243.174.247) joined ##slackware. [04:54] parimo (n=parimo__@84.77.13.8) joined ##slackware. [04:54] Phr34k3r (i=Phr34k3r@adsl196-104-220-217-196.adsl196-15.iam.net.ma) left irc: Client Quit [04:55] wow blackbox looks cool [04:55] inman (n=root@p579B4ED5.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware. [04:55] Benjsh__ (n=benjsh@h140n1-m-sp-gr1.ias.bredband.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [04:55] Hi, when i boot op with splashy on one computer here the graphics is terrible , can i adjust the resolution some how? [04:56] i remember when a penguin used to show up on startup [04:56] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [04:56] now there is some new animal masquerading as a penguin ? [04:56] Action: jescis only uses X for web browsing, using ADTPro which requires a gui for jre, and watching youtube videos ;) [04:56] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) left ##slackware. [04:57] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:57] yeah [04:57] but i use the splashy [04:57] and it looks very bad when it loads an image [04:58] sorry, i don't even know what splashy is [04:58] 8) [04:59] Benjsh__, maybe it's the image, could see about gimping it ;) [04:59] it works on another system [05:00] maybe change the resolution? [05:01] all i see is some green and purpple and it looks very bad [05:01] and the linux penguin in the middle [05:01] i will try to lower resolution [05:01] in lilo [05:02] john_dee (n=id@93-81-118-71.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [05:02] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [05:02] are you using the same monitor for both PCs? [05:04] fhobia: http://linux-foundation.org/weblogs/lwf/2009/03/19/the-kernel-gets-a-new-mascot/ [05:05] mingdao: thank you [05:05] Pavlz (n=Paolo@unaffiliated/pavlz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:05] np [05:05] Pavlz (n=Paolo@dynamic-adsl-94-37-187-19.clienti.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [05:07] diabel (n=dziergaj@81.168.228.206) joined ##slackware. [05:07] Hi [05:09] Xires (n=Xires@66.190.79.122) joined ##slackware. [05:09] its too late in teh night to understand udevd+hal+dbus [05:10] Xires, turn down your resalution... it's too extreme ;) [05:10] jescis; ? 1600x1200? [05:12] Xires, too Xtreme Hi res [05:12] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl7-76-13.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:12] Kemil (n=kemil@124.Red-88-15-81.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:12] Action: jescis thinks Xires doesn't get the play on his nick >.> [05:14] jescis; 'Xires' is the name of a relatively important religious figure [05:14] Benjsh__ (n=benjsh@h140n1-m-sp-gr1.ias.bredband.telia.com) left irc: [05:15] I know not about that do I [05:16] I thought of resolution because res is usually short for resolution :\ [05:16] or resource [05:17] so should i switch to zsh? [05:17] true, I guess. [05:18] Reticenti, it's up to you. all shells have pros and cons for them [05:18] Reticenti, ever use tcsh? [05:19] nope [05:19] and i just discovered mtr wow [05:19] it's made for you. C compliant shell ;) [05:20] lol [05:21] there's more to Linux shells then just bash ;) [05:21] yeah [05:21] i want to try zsh, seems good [05:22] Again, all shells have their pros and cons for them [05:23] yeah [05:23] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl9-76-75.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:23] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [05:23] I'd look into researching each ones for features you want or don't want ;) [05:29] mel_ (i=1000@117.255.73.36) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:31] mk_ (n=nunes@201.45.226.103) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:32] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-132-148.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:34] Reticenti, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_command_shells [05:38] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:39] parimo_ (n=parimo__@84.77.13.8) joined ##slackware. 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[06:05] greetings [06:06] The-Croupier, it's not a good idea to take your sleep meds and try to hack the gibson [06:06] i installed a newer nvdia driver and now i have no gui :)) [06:07] going to rsync a few tb worth of movies and music to the other server as a back up [06:07] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:08] running slackware current. kernel 2.6.29.6-smp, wireless 3945abg, iwconfig shows config is right, ifconfig shows interface is up and ip alright, route shows gw and host and network are right, [06:08] i get no connection though, and i cannot ping the router [06:08] GRiFTaH-xtc (i=GRiFTaH-@115.128.14.75) left irc: [06:08] sendmsg opreation not permitted [06:09] ping www.google.com operation not permitted [06:09] has anyone seen this before... i get no connection errors or anything [06:09] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [06:10] did an dhcpd restart, edited /etc/resolv.conf with the proper gw, [06:10] i dont know what else to do .... [06:11] googled for ping and sendmsg errrors, wireless problems in general...just show me stupid configuration errors, like did you put the gw correctly ...etc [06:13] firedix (n=firedix@host40.200-117-196.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [06:13] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578BC4.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:14] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [06:14] anyone around? :( [06:14] yes [06:15] I just can't help you. So I said nothing ;) [06:15] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [06:16] The-Croupier: clear and accept iptables 1st ? [06:17] -j ACCEPT on iptables that is. [06:17] ZmAY (n=xxxxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [06:17] anavel, sorry didnt get that... you mean.. iptables -j ACCEPT [06:17] /etc/resolv.conf for setting up upstream dns server. [06:18] The-Croupier: iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT [06:18] when i run some script i get this error: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, any help? [06:18] Action: jescis has tried but cannot upgrade to 13.0 from 12.2 yet. Might be hardware related or something. Also is plugged in, not connected wirelessly >.> [06:18] jescis: read the UPGRADES.txt ? [06:18] ZmAY: you're doing it for the wrong architecture [06:19] anavel, yeah [06:19] sahko, ok [06:19] anavel clear iptables -F right? [06:19] jescis: what's the problem ? [06:19] xz had some issues [06:20] The-Croupier: iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT, then iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT first. then that. [06:20] jescis: what kind ? [06:20] ZmAY: are you talking about SlackBuilds? [06:20] sahko: yes [06:20] ZmAY: see http://slackbuilds.org/faq/#x86_64 [06:21] that applies to all architectures other than i486 [06:21] anavel, i should leave only iptables forward to deny right? [06:21] sahko: tnx [06:21] clear [06:21] saptech (n=saptech@99.144.116.214) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:22] anavel, thanks alot...fixed it [06:22] i c. yw :) [06:22] it was an iptables problem...;) awsome.. [06:22] The-Croupier: do not forget to set up some rules on iptables to protect you. [06:22] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [06:23] ive messing around with the firewalls, read all the ip, route, ifconfig,iwconfig,...etc.. for like 3times [06:23] can it ping the router and access the web ? [06:23] anavel, could you recommend any...i think rworkman and alienBOB had some... [06:23] anavel, now yes [06:23] great. [06:23] shall i do iptables -P FORWARD DROP [06:24] yes, if your pc not acting as a router. [06:24] GREAT fantastic... [06:24] which is no point for it if ip_forward is not enabled on your pc. But, wouldn't hurt [06:25] i c [06:25] could you recommend any iptables rules as a start [06:25] ill read the iptables online in 5mins [06:25] as a standard,first in... [06:25] http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/chunkyhtml/index.html <-- a good place. But need time to read it. [06:26] The-Croupier: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/efg/ [06:26] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:26] do you know any torrent client that can run as a daemon, w/o any user being logged in? at the login screen? and maybe running independently of the user that is logged in [06:26] Keiffer: rtorrent [06:26] but... you need screen :< [06:27] tmux > screen [06:27] oh, daemon eh... hmm... [06:27] packeteer: how so ? [06:28] hmm... screen tmux dtach twin... [06:28] anavel, could you resend the link in 5mins..on the channel...so i get in from my laptop.. :) [06:28] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) left ##slackware. [06:29] anavel, I'm doing it now. it worked now. Don't know why it didn't before :\ [06:30] Keiffer: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/transmission/ [06:30] fallertsen (n=Franz@host88-229-dynamic.54-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:30] Thanks! [06:30] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.70.237) joined ##slackware. [06:31] you're welcome [06:32] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [06:32] http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/chunkyhtml/index.html [06:32] anavel: thank you [06:32] yw [06:33] Action: The-Croupier is soooo glad is working on his slackware laptop.. and it runs...sooooo quickly compared to double speed windows laptops [06:34] The-Croupier: what WM u running ? [06:34] The-Croupier: you should try windows 7 [06:34] The-Croupier, that's because slackware is quadruple speed ;) [06:35] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.82.70.237) joined ##slackware. [06:35] windows 7 is semi ok, but osx is still my desktop of choice [06:35] im running xfce and fluxbox most of the time [06:36] apple can suck both of my left nuts [06:36] configured it simple..glack on green most of it.. to save some energy [06:36] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [06:36] Action: pragma_ laughs at The-Croupier [06:36] ananke: i heard win7 is quiet nice..havent tried it yet..and not in a hurry to either tbh [06:37] pragma_: why? :( [06:38] because he'd like to bitch and whine [06:38] The-Croupier: indeed, it seems to be much better than its predecessor, vista [06:39] I felt, meh, about it myself :\ [06:39] Because of his statement of "configuring it to use black and green to save energy" [06:39] If I had actually had a spoonful of cereal in my mouth at that moment, it'd be spewed all over my monitor [06:39] pragma_: so...why is that so funny? is that wrong you think? [06:40] I've been running it since the beta. I like it. It took some of the fail out of my amd64 system, which is nice. [06:40] ananke: well, tbh anything is better than vista [06:40] cept winME [06:40] I'm still getting rid of the Phenom II, there's an i7-860 out there with my name on it :D [06:41] The-Croupier: sorry, i don't use/know such acronym as 'tbh' [06:41] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [06:41] doh, no wonder i'm having wireless issues, power level is set ultra low [06:41] now, how to i set it to max? [06:42] LSD`: send your Phenom II to me :p [06:42] ananke: tbh = to be honest [06:42] anavel: I think he knows, he's just bein an ass [06:42] ananke: sorry, my bad [06:43] tbh = to be honest as anavel said [06:43] Action: The-Croupier hardly uses any acronyms, dont know why did now [06:44] LSD`: thanks for your input, jerkwad [06:45] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [06:46] pragma_, maybe he likes the late 70's monochrome look ;) [06:47] black and green/amber [06:50] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:51] Action: jescis will restart after the upgrade to 13.0 is finished and he had some rest ;) [06:51] kernel upgrade == restart to take effect ;) [06:52] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@78.128.55.9) joined ##slackware. [06:52] Pavlz (n=Paolo@unaffiliated/pavlz) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [06:52] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@78.128.55.9) left ##slackware. [06:54] ./clear [06:54] Action: The-Croupier damn, confusing terminals [06:54] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@78.128.55.9) joined ##slackware. [06:55] Xterm or tty The-Croupier? [06:55] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:56] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [06:57] konsole [06:57] ah [06:57] masterx831 (n=masterx8@adsl-235-239-171.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [06:57] help! I messed up my Slackware X does not want to start!!! :-( [06:57] Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key. [06:57] AUDIT: Sat Sep 19 06:53:54 2009: 2863 X: client 1 rejected from local host (uid 1000) Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: -1 [06:58] what ever that measns [06:59] mit-magic-cookie...nice..... [06:59] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.82.70.237) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [07:00] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.70.237) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:00] The-Croupier: wtf.. is that? [07:01] mit - is the famous massachussets university of Technology [07:01] in Boston [07:02] the magic cookie...i read a story long time ago... about this but i thought it was one of those hoaxes... [07:03] Can it be fixed? [07:03] its like the magic-switch that they have aparently is on the wall, no cables and nothing but switches off all the computers in the room/lab [07:03] masterx831: ive never seen it, ;) [07:03] there is nothing that cannot be fixed, [07:04] well how come i cant run X [07:04] load a live cd try to find it in your system and if you do please send it to me as well [07:04] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [07:04] im very intrigued to see, what it does exactly apart from not running x, ;) there should be more to it [07:05] masterx831, it's a magic cookie from Massachusets Instatute of Technology, which you can chow down on... go a head, eat it ;) [07:05] ZmAY (n=xxxxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:05] http://www.nedit.org/pipermail/discuss/2001-September/000180.html <-- some info there [07:06] Action: jescis thought that was funny, but will now shut up :x [07:06] you guys ain't helping and suppose to be helping me [07:06] look in google for magic cookie there are really nice stuff [07:06] infact are you guys experts on here [07:06] ohh i see... [07:06] giving up. [07:06] xinit: Resource temporarily unavailable (errno 11): unable to connect to X server [07:06] xinit: No such process (errno 3): unexpected signal 2. [07:07] xauth: error in locking authority file /home/masterx831/.Xauthority [07:08] check the ownership with ls -l [07:10] Nick change: oahong` -> oahong [07:10] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: "leaving" [07:11] oahong (n=user@unaffiliated/samigarus) left irc: "brb" [07:11] adeodatus (n=RF@92.85.223.23) joined ##slackware. [07:12] how to verify a dvd iso image? [07:13] everyone here is a user or was a user of slackware and comes here to give and get help if they or anyone else needs it. No one is a professional per se. Otherwise the channel would be charging for the service provided ;) correct me if I'm wrong guys >.> [07:13] ok [07:13] adeodatus: by its has value. [07:13] *hash [07:13] root@fubx:~# ls -l /home/masterx831/.Xauthority [07:13] -rw------- 1 masterx831 users 98 2009-09-19 07:07 /home/masterx831/.Xauthority [07:13] is this ok? [07:14] yeah. [07:14] christian (i=590ef73b@gateway/web/freenode/x-naeqxjclpidocvsv) joined ##slackware. [07:14] hello [07:14] masterx831, if you want root to be the only one to access X then yes >.> [07:14] if you run X as a root, will it start ? try running the same GUI on both root and user [07:15] I want to install slackware 13.0 and I want the dvd to boot this time. [07:15] anavel: wait I just ran ps aux and pkill -9 X [07:15] adeodatus: burn the iso image [07:15] So i ran xwmconfig and choose xfce and then startx and it worked [07:17] adeodatus (n=RF@92.85.223.23) left irc: Client Quit [07:17] masterx831: find the file...pastebin it somewhere..really interested to see it [07:19] oahong (n=user@61.152.248.21) joined ##slackware. [07:21] Action: jescis tries to be comic releif some times. But people some times don't get his jesting >.> [07:21] linux is a srsz bsnz :> [07:22] after all some times the best stress releiver is humor [07:23] anavel, so is war, but the soldiers still try not to go crazy by saying or doing something funny >.> [07:24] that was a joke. like, fansubbing is srz bsnz. [07:25] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.20.118) left irc: "Leaving" [07:25] anavel, oh, hehehe [07:26] see, I'm not the only one it happens too ;) [07:27] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@79.54.69.19) joined ##slackware. [07:28] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [07:30] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:30] blackthorne (n=bthorne@unaffiliated/blackthorne) joined ##slackware. [07:30] firedix (n=firedix@host40.200-117-196.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [07:34] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [07:35] feiry, genie, or wizzard magic? slackmagic ;) [07:36] smurf [07:37] anavel, :D smurf [07:38] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:38] Action: jescis loves the smurfs :D [07:38] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [07:39] papa smurf patrick volkerding [07:39] best animated show, second only to any anime/japanimation that came out back then ;) [07:40] http://filebin.ca/upgeqe/Xorg.0.log [07:40] does this look fine [07:41] Action: jescis goes to bed [07:41] g'night :) [07:42] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [07:42] I leave y'all with this anime smiley/emoticon ;P [07:45] slackmag1c (n=magician@173.74.42.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:49] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: "leaving" [07:50] oahong` (n=user@220.112.82.38) joined ##slackware. [07:51] Reeves (n=root@201-76-86-35.flash.tv.br) joined ##slackware. [07:51] oahong (n=user@unaffiliated/samigarus) left irc: Nick collision from services. [07:51] Nick change: oahong` -> oahong [07:52] 1 [07:54] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@78.128.55.9) left ##slackware. [07:56] masterx831, You have 2D and 3D acceleration, if that's what you were wondering. [07:57] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:57] guys, where can i find the initial rc.firewall that was in slackware disk? :( tried the mirrors but my search abilities seem to have failed me... [07:57] ZmAY (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [07:58] arrostos (n=arrostos@adsl112-142.ath.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:58] arrostos (n=arrostos@adsl112-142.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [07:58] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.140.207) joined ##slackware. [07:58] hello! [07:58] where can i find sigc++-2.0 [07:58] arrostos (n=arrostos@adsl112-142.ath.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:58] No package 'sigc++-2.0' found [07:59] Nick change: arrostos -> tntslack [07:59] ZmAY, do you need: libsigc++ - 2.2.4 ? [08:00] or only sigc++? [08:00] metrofox: No package 'sigc++-2.0' found .. i think sigc++ is the one [08:00] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-232.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [08:00] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-103-60.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [08:01] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:01] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:01] ZmAY, the real name is not "sigc++" but "libsigc++", anyway: http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-13.0/libraries/libsigc++/2.2.4/ [08:01] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:01] metrofox: tnx [08:02] OR: ftp://ftp.slackbuilds.org/12.2/libraries/libsigc++/ [08:02] NetNightmare (n=netnight@dynamic-adsl-94-37-229-79.clienti.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [08:02] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [08:02] Choose one of those 2 links ;) [08:06] NetNightmare (n=netnight@dynamic-adsl-94-37-229-79.clienti.tiscali.it) left irc: Client Quit [08:07] why my mic is not working? how should i config it (is onboard on top of the monitor) i am on laptop. [08:07] mel_ (i=1000@117.255.77.70) joined ##slackware. [08:08] nitro25 (n=nitro25@72.230.179.21) joined ##slackware. [08:08] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [08:08] how can i get permission denied if i am root [08:09] ZmAY, chmod +x *Build [08:09] ok [08:09] you've to set the execution permissions to run [08:11] anahel (i=anahel@unaffiliated/anahel) joined ##slackware. [08:11] do i have to log off to apply changes [08:12] ZmAY, no [08:12] cause it's still No package 'sigc++-2.0' found [08:12] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.53.89.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [08:13] ZmAY, did you build the package? [08:13] yes [08:13] (did you run the slackbuild?); (did you install the generated package when the slackbuild finished?) [08:13] BentoPUNK (n=BentoPUN@201.72.199.2) joined ##slackware. [08:13] i did run slackBuild [08:14] yes, but did you install the generated package? (installpkg /tmp/libsigc++.......) [08:14] yar! ahoy maties! [08:14] just a sec, let me see if its there, cause it didnt report.. [08:15] ZmAY, which slackbuild did you run? That one in slackbuilds.org or the other one in slacky.eu? [08:16] eu [08:16] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [08:17] ZmAY, on slacky.eu there's already the package, you don't need to build again, if you wanna build a package, use the SBo repository, if you want a *.txz ready to be install and used use slacky.eu [08:17] anyway... run the SBo's slackbuild... [08:18] i see, ok let me try [08:18] ZmAY, ;) [08:18] new to slack.. [08:18] zzzKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [08:18] ZmAY, don't worry :) [08:19] curtisk (n=bck@unaffiliated/braintix) left irc: "Leaving" [08:20] metrofox: os what, i downloaded the package, now i unpack it and then what, configure, make, make install? [08:20] so* [08:21] ZmAY, no! Download the source: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/libsigc++/2.2/libsigc++-2.2.3.tar.bz2 [08:21] yes, i did, 2.2.4 [08:21] download the package containing slackbuilds...:http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/12.2/libraries/libsigc++.tar.gz [08:22] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [08:22] unpack the second one, put the source(.bz2) into the libsigc++ dir without unpacking... [08:22] ok, brb [08:22] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [08:22] edit you slackbuild build, there's a variable called: "VERSION:", edit it with your current version... Once finished, close it, and make the slackbuild executable(chmod +x *Build), once finished run this last one.. [08:23] ZmAY, http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ <--documentation [08:24] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.53.89.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [08:24] metrofox: tnx for help [08:25] ZmAY, if you've got other questions, please write, don't worry ;) [08:26] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.16) joined ##slackware. [08:26] piper (n=piper@adsl-074-167-154-074.sip.int.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:26] parimo (n=parimo__@28.Red-79-152-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [08:27] mornin [08:27] Hi Quiznos [08:27] hi fox [08:28] metrofox: ok i did what u said, how can i check if its installed [08:28] NetNightmare (n=netnight@dynamic-adsl-94-37-229-79.clienti.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [08:28] ls /var/log/packages | grep libsigc++ [08:29] nothing [08:29] ZmAY, after finished to run the slackbuild, did you install the package? [08:29] let me look in tmp [08:32] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [08:32] hm.. confusing, now i have map txz in /tmp [08:32] piper (n=piper@adsl-074-167-154-074.sip.int.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [08:33] dscpl0 (n=mc@cpe.atm2-0-76461.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:33] Hi [08:33] yar! [08:34] curtisk (n=bck@unaffiliated/braintix) joined ##slackware. [08:34] How do I perform a backup of EXT and VFAT partitions on an external USB HD from Linux? [08:34] Guest36670 (n=mike@89.240.105.120) joined ##slackware. [08:34] parimo_ (n=parimo__@84.77.13.8) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [08:35] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.77.60) joined ##slackware. [08:35] cmair (n=cmair@host231-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:35] Guest36670 (n=mike@89.240.105.120) left irc: Client Quit [08:35] piper (n=piper@adsl-074-167-154-074.sip.int.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:36] ZmAY, did you type all these commands: http://pastebin.com/m691f17ab ? [08:37] mel_, you can look at dd [08:37] metrofox: i removed everything and now i will do like u posted [08:37] ZmAY, sorry, don't use the "echo "VERSION=2.2.4" > libsigc++.SlackBuild" command.. [08:38] this won't work, however edit you number version in the slackbuild, using a text editor, pico for example ;) [08:41] riddlebox, the external HD is formatted with FAT, and it cannot handle files larger than 2GB, at least from Linux. [08:42] metrofox: this Build is wrong, it has only version inside, no other text [08:42] ZmAY, I told not to run echo... [08:42] wait a minute ;) [08:42] mel, so you will be backing up to an external hd, which is formatted fat, and you want to move files, over 2gb? [08:42] christian (i=590ef73b@gateway/web/freenode/x-naeqxjclpidocvsv) left irc: "Page closed" [08:43] riddlebox, yes. [08:43] ok i got it [08:43] i sent output to build:) [08:43] nositelicense (n=nositeli@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:44] i will do it again:) [08:44] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:44] ZmAY, http://pastebin.com/m27493eaa [08:44] mel, rsync? [08:44] riddlebox, I presume I will have to re-partition or re-format the external HD to be able to hold large files as 16GB? [08:45] riddlebox, how? Please can you elaborate/explain? [08:45] mel, I would think so, are you really using files that big [08:45] mel_, is it connected to your machine, or is it a network backup? [08:46] riddlebox, no. But I was thinking of creating an image using `dd'. In that case, the output file will be very large. [08:46] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:46] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:46] riddlebox, the external HD is connected to my system (via USB). [08:47] so are you asking how to use dd, or are you asking for options to do backups? [08:47] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [08:47] metrofox: works now [08:47] mel_, http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=backup+to+fat32+slackware&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&fp=ee36edbd3c16a1c5 [08:47] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [08:48] ZmAY, eh... Now, read something about SlackBuilds on slackbuilds.org and on google too ;) [08:49] metrofox: can i delete these packages in /tmp [08:50] yes [08:50] you can [08:50] riddlebox, I already know how to create an image using the `dd' command. [08:50] you can also delete the directory containing the source, slackbuilds ecc in your home [08:50] dscpl0 (n=mc@cpe.atm2-0-76461.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) left irc: "Leaving" [08:50] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:51] ok [08:51] riddlebox, I actually want to know the various options for backup. [08:52] he wants to backup to an external drive that has fat32, but fat32 only supports files up to 2 gigs, what does that tell you? it tells me you need to use a different filesystem on the external drive (pick one that supports larger filesizes) [08:52] hi Pig_Pen [08:52] hi metrofox [08:53] Pig_Pen, I am willing to re-partition, re-format the external drive with EXT. But then how will I restore the backup to FAT partitions? [08:55] just tar the contents of the fat partitions? (save the contents, not the filesystem) [08:56] or if you have the space .. rsync ;) [08:59] nitro25 (n=nitro25@72.230.179.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:59] Pig_Pen, say my /home partition is XXXGB. If I create a tar + gz, say the output file results in greater than 16GB. How do I overcome this problem? [09:00] mel_, why is fat so important? if you have a windows machine you want to access the data just install the ext2 driver for windows, then you will see the files [09:00] dont tar it, just copy it over uncompressed [09:01] riddlebox, can you tell me of any such driver? [09:01] i have a backup of an entire Slackware install that is even bootable i can use in another partition, [09:02] Pig_Pen, thanks for the idea, to copy files uncompressed. [09:02] mel_, google helps with suchs questions, but http://www.fs-driver.org/ [09:02] Pig_Pen, in that case, I will not be able to benefit from compression. [09:03] how big is your external drive? [09:03] evo- (n=evo@p4FCF1064.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:04] Pig_Pen, 300GB. [09:05] and your worried about 16 gigs? with that HUGE external drive i would just copy all of /home over and not even worry about it [09:05] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [09:05] goooood moooorning vietnam! [09:05] macavity, morning... [09:05] hiya macavity [09:06] ahoy yee deckswabber! [09:06] guys did you heard about FSC laptop amilo sa 3650, that is coming with external graphic card? [09:06] Pig_Pen, actually I was worried about the individual file-size (of the output archive). [09:06] is there any way to make it work ? [09:08] riddlebox, I have checked the link, but it seems that the driver does not support Windows 98. [09:08] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [09:08] mel_, why on earth are you using that os [09:08] win98? sheesh!!! abandon that! [09:09] tntslack: s|exeternal graphics card|graphics booster| I believe. [09:09] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "leaving" [09:09] riddlebox, Its my favourite compared to other M$ OSs. [09:09] BP{k} what you mean? [09:09] mel_, not to many other apps, or services will be supporting that os anymore, you are better off with just putting linux on that machine [09:10] If it (98) isn't broken why fix it? [09:10] Pig_Pen, I am eagerly waiting to abandon it, but I have to completely migrate + backup my data, before installing Slackware. [09:10] btw win2k and xp are way better than 98 [09:10] tntslack: It has it's own graphics card actually (an intergrated Radeon HD3200), the booster is a Radeon HD3870 which connects over the XGP to connect external monitors to. [09:11] riddlebox, Besides Win98, I have Slackware 11.0. [09:11] yes that is right [09:11] mel_, are these on one machine? [09:11] riddlebox, yes. [09:12] mel_, just mount the win98 partition in linux, and pull the files into linux [09:12] gm152 (n=gm152@125.165.84.243) joined ##slackware. [09:12] into the linux partition that is [09:12] BP{k} well i am on it now. [09:12] BP{k} and want to make the booster work. [09:12] mel, slackware will read fat partitions..... [09:13] gm152 (n=gm152@125.165.84.243) left irc: Connection reset by peer [09:13] riddlebox, let's say I transferred the files from FAT to EXT. How do I restore them back? [09:13] it even auto recognizes FAT[12/16/32] [09:13] on Vista, they made a beta drivers for crossDisplay, so i thing mabe there is for linux too [09:13] mel, the opposite way you put them on the slackware partition [09:14] tntslack: admittedly the concept is actually sorta interesting :) normal laptop for on the road, come home and hook it up to the booster for better graphics. However this is the first time I actually heard about it. [09:15] does mesa support crossfire? [09:15] and does Xorg? [09:15] riddlebox, actually, that is not possible. Slackware refuses to create files larger than 2GB on a (V)FAT partition. [09:16] BP{k} when i start X with GB plugged in, is working, but don't have external monitor to check it... :( [09:16] mel_, how big is this file you are going to transfer? you want to make a big image of your windows partition right? [09:17] tntslack: so the booster only boosts the graphics on the external monitor? [09:17] macavity i think yes... on Vista, there is beta drivers for cossDisplay [09:17] you get nowhere with talking windows lingo to me [09:18] i wouldn't know what crossdisplay is if it jumped up from a foxhole and bit me in the arse [09:18] Reeves (n=root@201-76-86-35.flash.tv.br) left irc: "leaving" [09:18] what you mean? [09:19] riddlebox, consider the examples of the Slackware DVD ISO images: 12.2: 3.9GB, 13.0: 3.7GB. [09:19] tntslack: i mean that "on vista there is beta drivers for crossDisplay" is incomprehensible to me [09:21] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.25.82) joined ##slackware. [09:21] riddlebox, BTW how would I create a large image of my Windows partition? [09:21] mel_, honestly, I dont understand what you want to do, do you want to copy your entire win98 os, so you can "reinstall" it? I dont think win98 will like that [09:21] macavity and why is incomprehensible to you? [09:22] riddlebox, not OS. It is my data that is precious. [09:22] because i dont know what "crossDisplay" is.. it is not an Xorg technology afaik [09:22] crossDisplay is to bring back ta screen in to laptop screen [09:22] and no need external monitor [09:22] ok [09:23] and this i supposed to utilize both GPUs? [09:23] no, is just shutting down the internal GPU and blast the external one [09:23] if not it should be trivial for the radeon[hd] driver devs to implement [09:24] ok [09:24] from HD3200 you have HD3870 [09:24] then it is just a matter of transfering the framebuffer from the 3870 to the 3200 [09:25] zero0one (n=zerone@ppp-94-64-193-154.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:25] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-68-216.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:25] i belive xorg already supports this with the clone option [09:25] i think you are talking about hybrid graphic [09:25] no, the framebuffer is seperated from the GPU [09:26] here is a link about this [09:26] http://linux-hybrid-graphics.blogspot.com/2009/03/fujitsu-siemens-amilo-sa-3650-and-linux.html [09:27] btw why there is no Catalyst Control Center? [09:28] oh, you are trying to get this up and running with the proprietary drivers? [09:28] i don't know, trying up :) [09:28] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:29] only with 9.8 drivers i could make it work [09:29] with 9.9 it's freezing on X when starting [09:29] ok, i have exactly zero knowledge about the proprietary drivers, so i better back down [09:30] same i [09:30] In my KDE4 System Settings Default Applications, Konsole is set as the default application for Terminal Emulator. But when I start Applications, Utilities, Terminal Emulator, I get the XFCE terminal. [09:30] i [09:30] in the past I probably just uninstalled XFCE terminal, but it would be nice to find a real fix [09:31] tntslack (n=arrostos@adsl112-142.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:31] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.77.60) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [09:32] pi31415: i just checked.. it IS the Terminal from XFCE that .desktop file points to [09:32] mel, so you have files bigger than 2gb on the win98? [09:32] macavity: I will try changing the default application back and forth and see if that does it [09:32] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.21.123) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:32] pi31415: Applications -> System -> Terminal [09:33] pi31415: you are simply clickeing the worng one.. default apps does something differently [09:33] woops, thanks for setting me straight [09:33] pi31415: they dictate what happens when some menu entry says "open terminal here" [09:33] or "open URL" [09:34] arrostos (n=arrostos@adsl112-142.ath.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:34] anyone color blind? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8255112.stm [09:35] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425725.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:35] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.77.60) joined ##slackware. [09:35] arrostos (n=arrostos@adsl112-142.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [09:35] riddlebox, yes. [09:35] Pig_Pen: nice [09:36] anyhow, afk [09:36] mel_, you want to pull these files off of win98, then reinstall 98, and put them back? [09:37] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-138-4.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [09:38] riddlebox, yes somewhat like that. [09:38] I guess you could use samba...and a network file share [09:39] riddlebox, I am new to Linux, so I don't exactly know what is, how to use or setup SAMBA or Network File Share. [09:39] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.181) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:39] steiger (n=steiger@201.50.140.163) joined ##slackware. [09:40] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [09:41] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-157-123.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[09:53] ZmAY, yes [09:54] i downloaded java.bin file, how can i install it now [09:54] ehhe [09:54] java_ee_sdk-5_07-jdk-6u16-linux.bin [09:54] ./*.bin [09:54] chmod +x [09:54] did that [09:54] yes, chmod +x [09:54] bash: ./java_ee_sdk-5_07-jdk-6u16-linux.bin: No such file or directory [09:54] ./java_ee_sdk-5_07-jdk-6u16-linux.bin [09:55] make sure that java_blahblahblah.bin is in your CWD [09:55] BuyChinese (n=BuyChine@76.73.16.26) joined ##slackware. [09:55] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.69.226) joined ##slackware. [09:55] ZmAY, enter in the right directory... [09:56] should i copy file somewhere lese, i have it in my home dir [09:56] do i need to be in a group to burn [09:56] if you've got it in your home [09:57] just type: cd [09:57] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.69.226) left irc: Client Quit [09:57] and then: ./java_ee_sdk-5_07-jdk-6u16-linux.bin [09:57] OMG use a slackbuild script OMG j/k [09:57] and then: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/extra/jdk-6/ [09:58] download the package and install it ;) [09:58] muumi (n=chatzill@82.114.81.90) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:59] k3b doesn't see my /dev/hda as normal user, how do i burn [09:59] I gotta go now, see ya later [09:59] Action: metrofox is away: will be back $TIME [09:59] do i just add permissions on /dev/hda or what...i havent burned in forever...cdrecord -scanbus only works as root [10:00] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:04] john_dee (n=id@93-81-118-71.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:05] keres (n=keres@ppp-70-130-58-37.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [10:05] suprise suprise k3b crashed [10:05] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.77.60) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:05] pi31415 (n=ben@98.246.78.78) joined ##slackware. [10:05] Hey Im thinking about going to the store and picking up a quick hard drive before I migrate all my /home etc over to slackware from ubuntu.. Anyone running a 1 TB drive or larger w/ slackware 64 bit? I heard that there were "firmware" issues with a lot of drives larger than 1TB but that doesnt really make sense to me.. seems more like it would be an OS issue (presuming most of the reviewers etc use windows) [10:08] how do i set java path [10:09] inman (n=root@p579B4ED5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:10] zmay: add export JAVA_HOME or something to bashrc [10:10] export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/java... [10:10] adhok you really want to trust 1tb of data to a single drive? [10:12] BuyChinese: i installed it with installpkg, u maybe know where it should be now [10:14] well eventually I want to buy 3 or 4 here in the next 2 months, going to build a small file server and try to find a cheap card for raid 5, but for 2 months, just storing my video's it shouldnt be a problem [10:14] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.69.226) joined ##slackware. [10:15] bash-3.1$ echo $JAVA_HOME /usr/lib/java [10:15] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:16] none of my information is "mission critical", just home stuff [10:16] thats a lot of homemade porno [10:17] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:18] zmAY just open /etc/profile as root and look for java being added to $PATH and then at the end of the file add JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/java [10:19] not sure if you need export before setting it...maybe do both, cant hurt and will solve it system wide...slackware may have already done it for you, but you may need to logout and log back in, might test that first..logout, login and do echo $JAVA_HOME and echo $PATH [10:19] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.25.82) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:20] adhok: if the drive doesnt work return it....dont be skeered [10:20] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A74FA5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:20] lol k :) I'll grow a pair then and pick one up :) [10:20] cmair (n=cmair@host231-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:21] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-157-123.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:21] brb [10:21] ZmAY (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:21] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-157-123.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:21] im about to downgrade back to slackware 12.2, wish me luck...once i transfer this 12.2 dvd to anotehr pc and burn/boot it [10:21] good morning/afternoon guys [10:22] BuyChinese, why? [10:22] greetings slackers [10:22] i think it will be fun, pretty hard to screw it up i imagine [10:22] ZmAY (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [10:22] because all the kde apps in 13 suck and i want the old ones back [10:23] ah [10:23] BuyChinese: do we think of same java, i mean SDK? [10:23] other than that i dont see any real differences worth sacrificing my useeable kde apps for some bullshit eyecandy w/e crap they did [10:24] ZmAY: try reading the documentation...installnig the sdk isnt hard if you pay attention to what everything tells you...try typing javac, if you cant find javac locate it and add the bin/ to your path [10:25] ok, tnx [10:27] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-138-4.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [10:28] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-157-123.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:29] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-157-123.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:31] ZmAY: had the jre package installed...and now i just installed the jdk slackbuild...and now i have javac, i didnt have to do anything but installpkg JUST NOW [10:31] err slackpack http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/extra/jdk-6/jdk-6u16-i586-1.txz [10:32] yes, i installed that package with installpkg [10:32] root@dfadfafd:/tmp# ls /var/log/packages/j??-* /var/log/packages/jdk-6u16-i586-1 /var/log/packages/joe-3.5-i486-1 /var/log/packages/jed-0.99_18-i486-3 /var/log/packages/jre-6u16-i586-1 [10:32] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "leaving" [10:32] i have javac and java...it works perfectly, are you sure y ou even have a problem? [10:33] bash: javac: command not found [10:34] bash-3.1$ echo $PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/pkg/bin:/usr/lib/java/bin:/usr/lib/kde4/libexec:/usr/lib/qt/bin:/usr/share/texmf/bin:. [10:34] bash-3.1$ which javac /usr/lib/java/bin/javac [10:35] ok, let me try to change something.. [10:35] it should be automatic if you logged out allt he way and logged back in....if javac is not in that directory you didnt install jre and jdk packages.... [10:35] it is [10:35] in directory [10:36] let me log off [10:36] brb [10:36] ZmAY (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:36] k, well i'd reboot to make sure or just do export $PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/java/bin [10:36] err PATH= oh u gone [10:37] ZmAY (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [10:37] nop still same [10:37] a added a line in /etc/profile, export JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/java/bin/" [10:38] GanjaGoo (n=Roberto@76.5.140.90) joined ##slackware. [10:38] what does 'which javac' output? [10:39] JAVA_HOME is supposed to be /usr/lib/java [10:39] /usr/lib/java/bin/javac [10:39] not /bin/ [10:39] ok, will change [10:40] should work then...i wonder where my java_home is defined..... [10:41] hm.. [10:42] did you export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/java [10:42] parimo (n=parimo__@28.Red-79-152-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:43] yes [10:43] ok so it works... if which tells you where javac is and java_home is set then you can compile [10:44] parimo (n=parimo__@28.Red-79-152-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] :) it should but it not [10:44] how do you know its not working.............. [10:44] cause i tried to compile [10:45] and? [10:45] # which javac [10:45] which: no javac in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin) [10:45] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.181) joined ##slackware. [10:45] its not added, /usr/lib/java [10:45] wth it was jsut in your path... export PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/java/bin [10:46] just learn those commands and uset hem before you compile....your system is being very goofy [10:46] mine was all automatic [10:47] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.181) left irc: Client Quit [10:47] now its: # which javac [10:47] /usr/lib/java/bin/javac [10:48] but still, if i run javac it prints bash: /usr/lib/java/bin/javac: No such file or directory [10:48] BentoPUNK (n=BentoPUN@201.72.199.2) left irc: "Leaving" [10:48] if i try to compile: bash: /usr/lib/java/bin/javac: No such file or directory [10:48] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 47936 2009-07-31 09:43 /usr/lib/java/bin/javac [10:49] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 47936 2009-07-31 15:43 /usr/lib/java/bin/javac [10:49] oooooooohk.....that makes no sense.... [10:49] steiger (n=steiger@201.50.140.163) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:50] bash-3.1$ file /usr/lib/java/bin/javac /usr/lib/java/bin/javac: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped [10:50] are you on 64bit slackware?? [10:50] yes [10:50] then install the java for 64 bit dumbass [10:50] Adhok (n=Addict@76.109.161.74) left irc: "Leaving" [10:51] http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/extra/jdk-6/jdk-6u16-x86_64-1.txz [10:51] BuyChinese: why the insults [10:51] lol, and make sure your jre is the right one [10:51] fuck it, i am beginner [10:51] well when you cant execute an elf it means its for the wrong architecture [10:52] is there any command that removes all this 32bit java [10:52] removepkg /var/log/packages/jdk-* [10:52] tnx [10:52] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.87.15) left irc: "Leaving." [10:52] does java work or dose java say no such file [10:53] if it works then you dont need to remoev jre [10:53] bash: /usr/lib/java/bin/java: No such file or directory [10:53] tntslack (n=i@adsl132-116.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:54] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [10:54] ok then removepkg /var/log/packages/jre-* as well then install the 64bit jdk from extra and the 64bit jre from http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.0/slackware64/l/jre-6u16-x86_64-1.txz [10:55] ok did [10:55] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.181) joined ##slackware. [10:56] it should all be good, i'd reboot if i were a beginner to make sure the system sets JAVA_HOME and PATH properly [10:57] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [10:57] ok, be back [10:57] ZmAY (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:57] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl6-223-26.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:58] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.181) left irc: Client Quit [10:59] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.181) joined ##slackware. [10:59] new net neutrality ruling to be published by FCC Monday [11:00] ruling? HA [11:00] w4ll a stmt on their policy regarding [11:00] well [11:01] their rules dont matter with obama's CZARS and the promise that he will take over the internet [11:01] ZmAY (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [11:01] when did he say that [11:01] ok, it works now, thank you [11:01] for the kids [11:01] thats not an answer [11:02] the internet is considered a battlefield, and they say they can do anything to protect national security... [11:03] technically, they are correct; it is military jurisdiction (same as commerce) but the FCC is going to say that the internet is like the national highway, and open to all to use. [11:03] its called the cyber security act and iPatriot act [11:03] they will probably use the GE "DumbGrid" technology to blame the boogie man and take over the internet [11:04] well then get your personal refusals and disclaimers up for notice to all quickly then [11:04] and read the site licenses and eula's very carefully [11:04] "they" will steal your email addy in a pico-second. [11:04] and use it to make money [11:05] so whats different about what's happening today then? [11:05] you can use the highways by the root icann servers are federal [11:05] they already have your GovMail account [11:05] email addy's aren't even worth very much anymore. [11:06] i dont have govmail. i need no permissin to use the net. [11:06] it's private contract and the govt cannot interfere with my birth-rights. [11:06] you're birth-rights are the internets? [11:06] prople who think otherwise are uneducated m0rons [11:06] lol, thats naive [11:06] that's not what i wrote [11:07] prople? speak of the uneducated... :P [11:07] the corporations boght the "net" from the govt (military) it's generally "public" [11:07] people [11:07] According to the memorandum, CYBERCOM "will reach initial operating capability (IOC) not later than October 2009 and full operating capability (FOC) not later than October 2010." [11:07] dont be pedantic agentc0re [11:07] what memo? [11:08] WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The federal government is at risk of being unable to fight off attacks on the nation's computer networks unless it strengthens its cyber-security work force, according to a report released Wednesday. [11:08] ok [11:08] i have too much research to spoonfeed m0r0nz [11:08] nods [11:08] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-137-1.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:09] just go read the government documents or go find some "moonbat nutter conspiracy theorists" who always know more than the dumbmasses [11:09] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:09] nositelicense (n=nositeli@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:09] Quiznos: Ooh, i just learned a new word. Thanks! :D that's a good one btw. [11:09] k [11:10] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [11:11] i suggest you learn to use a library again....dont put all your eggs in one basket [11:12] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [11:12] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [11:12] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:14] mihk (n=mihai@xdsl-87-78-66-32.netcologne.de) joined ##slackware. [11:15] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-68-216.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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[11:23] mel_ (i=1000@117.255.77.70) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [11:23] How to change the screen resolution from console? [11:24] xrandr I believe [11:24] luis_ (n=luis@c-71-196-210-231.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:24] yes, I have used xrandr for that [11:26] pi31415 (n=ben@98.246.78.78) left irc: "peace, rebooting" [11:26] I have only cli and don't have X. [11:27] So you want to change the resolution of the console? [11:28] you do it from lilo.conf or lilo prompt, or if you have framebuffer console you do it with fbset perhaps [11:28] adamk_: yes [11:28] adeodatus: you do it in your lilo.conf [11:28] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) joined ##slackware. [11:28] you can change the resolution realtime too [11:28] Check /etc/lilo.conf for various vga values. [11:28] Can you do that with vesafb, though? [11:28] it depends on his framebuffer [11:29] Which resolution is the best? [11:29] rdev(8) ? hrm. just checking out the lilo.conf man page. [11:29] your hw specs and your personal preferences determine that [11:29] could always set to vga=ask [11:29] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-132-148.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [11:30] read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/ [11:30] mancha: What resolution did you choose? [11:30] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:30] time to downgrade to slackware 12.2 w000t [11:30] BuyChinese (n=BuyChine@76.73.16.26) left irc: "CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)" [11:30] rrh_ (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:31] rdev(8) for vidmode [11:31] greetings from northern Canada [11:33] northern Canada is where the new equator resides isn't it? [11:33] :) [11:34] GanjaGoo: interesting to note that I have observed some changes in our weather patterns here [11:35] not really surprising imho [11:35] agreed [11:35] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [11:37] just wait until the tundra melts and releases the methane trapped inside it [11:37] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:37] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: "Leaving" [11:38] noticed other peculiarities not dealing with the current global warming hypothesis of pollution... like the summer solstice coming a month earlier than usual? [11:38] last time i checked the calender there is still 365 days in a year [11:39] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-235-199.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:40] not last year's calendar [11:40] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.85.223.147) joined ##slackware. [11:40] leapyear? [11:40] summer solstice is still june 21 i believe [11:40] longest days was in june/july rather than july/august this year... which is unusual [11:41] ahhh... thought it was in july [11:41] my bad [11:41] wikipedia is your friend [11:41] yea, leap :> [11:42] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equinox [11:42] my special blend of herbal tobacco tends to make me forgetful :p [11:43] heh [11:43] your just forgetful, it has nothing to do with ganja [11:43] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-26-165.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:43] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.23.72) left irc: "Leaving" [11:43] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [11:44] rhys (n=rhys@c-67-176-142-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:46] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.85.223.147) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:46] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.223.23) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [11:48] how to find PPD file of particular printer? [11:49] ZmAY: are you trying to setup your printer? [11:49] yes [11:49] what kind of printer? [11:49] samsung cpl-315 over usb [11:49] have you tried http://localhost:631/ [11:49] yes [11:49] k, [11:50] heh thank [11:50] gah, thank's hitest. :D [11:50] yw:) [11:50] ZmAY: click on administration and then click find printer. [11:50] Action: metrofox is back (gone 01:51:23) [11:51] if you are not using cups (the app requires a ppd) then you can get your ppd from your manufacturer [11:51] ZmAY: What kind of printer is this? all in one? photo? black/white? [11:51] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:51] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: No route to host [11:51] or from the install cd or whatever [11:52] agentc0re: it works, thanks [11:52] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.223.147) joined ##slackware. [11:53] k [11:53] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [11:53] ZmAY: If printing ends up being "slow" try switching the driver to Generic->Generic PCL5-en driver. [11:53] I had to do that for my brother printer. [11:53] ok [11:55] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:55] 2418 userhere 20 0 374m 131m 30m S 153 6.5 1:28.98 firefox-bin <--WTF [11:55] What package I have to install to have those nice aphorisms when I login? [11:56] fortunes or some such [11:57] notroot (n=root@c-24-126-166-137.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:57] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*37.hsd1.ga.comcast.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:57] notroot kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Douchebag [11:57] antiwire: ? [11:58] 153% cpu [11:58] gg ff [11:58] oh ah. lol. good ole FF. [11:58] ZmAY: also check: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Samsung-CLP-315 <- that might be more up-to-date driver, or not [11:58] Lately it seams that a good web browser is far and few between. [11:59] bsdgames has the fortune stuff [12:00] mancha: thank you very much!! [12:00] np :) [12:02] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-235-199.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [12:02] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-181-100-190.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [12:08] mihk (n=mihai@xdsl-87-78-66-32.netcologne.de) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:09] mel_ (i=1000@117.255.75.5) joined ##slackware. [12:11] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.223.147) left irc: "leaving" [12:13] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [12:19] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.223.147) joined ##slackware. [12:21] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) joined ##slackware. [12:21] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:22] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.223.147) left irc: Client Quit [12:24] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@p54A74209.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:47] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [12:48] DirtyHarry (n=DHarry@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: "Leaving" [12:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGO2hVA3P58 [12:54] how uncompress txz? [12:55] I haven't tried yet but I'm guessing tar xvf should figure it out. [12:55] ip-route: is this a slackware package? [12:55] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:55] after upgrading to slackware 13, I cannot get audio working on my acer AOD150 netbook [12:56] pi31415: is that the 10.1" ? [12:57] yes [12:57] I have the same one. [12:57] got audio working? [12:57] Yup. [12:57] I also upgraded from 12.2 to 13.0 [12:57] agentc0re yeap [12:58] i used to have "options snd-hda-intel model=acer-aspire" in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base [12:58] ip-route: then you don't want to uncompress it. man upgradepkg [12:58] Anyone have a .SlackBuild script that repackages an rpm? [12:58] xz -d [12:58] agentc0re: what options do you have under modprobe.d? [12:58] let me check. [12:59] pi31415, put it in /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf [12:59] Doesn't alsaconf pick it up? [12:59] jonsmith1982: tried that, it did not help [12:59] antiwire: openoffice [12:59] SuN: ran alsoconf and it removed my options [12:59] works for me. [12:59] Oh heh [12:59] thrice`: openoffice from SBo uses the tart.gz [12:59] tar* [13:00] pi31415: what about a manual modprobe snd-hda-intel model=acer-aspire ? [13:00] SuN: let me try that, brb [13:00] agentc0re ok [13:00] ;) [13:00] antiwire: inside the .tar.gz exists rpm files [13:00] thrice`: got it, thanks [13:00] pi31415: http://pastebin.com/d7bce5b06 [13:00] you'll see the rpm2cpio magic it does in the slackbuild [13:01] my problem may be that I am testing audio in the KDE control panel [13:01] I should test it at a lower level first [13:01] pi31415: not sure if i even need those really. A while back i tried those to fix an issue i have when it's suspended to ram that anything open IE: FF with a video, the sound doesn't work until i restart FF. It's not just with FF either. [13:03] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-36-218-222.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:03] NetNightmare (n=netnight@dynamic-adsl-94-37-229-79.clienti.tiscali.it) left irc: "Leaving" [13:03] pi31415: yes, use mpg321 or something from the command line, but first do an lsmod to check if and snd- modules are loaded, and if they are, run alsamixer to see if you have a mixer device (possibly with all volumes at 0%). [13:03] silly me it was a permissions issue [13:04] Oh [13:04] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:06] darchstar (n=ameer@cpe-174-100-28-18.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [14:12] parimo (n=parimo__@28.Red-79-152-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:13] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-137-1.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:13] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-131-214.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [14:15] aaarnt (n=arnt@200.188.249.245) left irc: "Leaving" [14:15] OK. I have found it. [14:16] witukind_ (n=witukind@ip-213-49-226-115.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [14:21] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [14:22] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:24] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.75.181) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:25] l0lwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:25] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.78.247) joined ##slackware. [14:31] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [14:32] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [14:32] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. [14:33] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-235-199.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:34] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: "leaving" [14:37] hello fire|bird [14:37] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:38] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [14:39] hey Reticenti [14:39] tapp (n=tapp@pD9E23616.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("bye"). [14:39] what tz are you in, fire|bird ? [14:40] hi if as root I ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.235 - will that set my ip , subnet, and gateway for eth0 ? [14:40] each time? or do i need up and down flags too? [14:41] hackedhead_ (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [14:41] nositelicense (n=nositeli@67.49.45.203) joined ##slackware. [14:41] Reticenti: Sat Sep 19 13:41:39 CDT 2009 [14:42] Midwest USA. ;) [14:42] ah [14:42] i'm on the west coast :) [14:42] Hello fire|bird ! [14:42] hello shik4nt4z4 [14:43] estevao (n=estevao@189.115.200.150) left irc: "Leaving." [14:43] Reticenti, fire|bird : Do you know a program for scanning the key bindings? I need to use them with inputrc. [14:43] Reticenti: Sorry for last time. My connection broke. [14:43] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [14:44] huh? [14:44] KingBeowulf (n=kingbeow@ip11.73.dhcp-acs2.511.iinet.com) left irc: "Arrr...later, mateys!" [14:44] Reticenti: The think with XFCE4 not running. My nickname was m4lik. [14:44] Reticenti: The thing with XFCE4 not running. My nickname was m4lik. [14:44] i dont remember [14:45] what was not running? [14:45] or did you get it fixed [14:45] Reticenti: I use fluxbox and I like it more. [14:45] ah [14:45] Reticenti: Do you know a program to scan key bindings? [14:45] like, keyboard shortcuts? [14:46] Reticenti: Yes. [14:46] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] nositelicense (n=nositeli@67.49.45.203) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:46] hmm [14:46] shik4nt4z4: You mean to figure out what code each key uses? xev :) [14:46] there should be something in settings it would seem [14:47] oh, ok, i see [14:47] fire|bird: No, not that. Once I used a program which gave me the code for Ctrl+F1 like [[A [14:47] hackedhead_ (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:47] Can not remember now. [14:48] thanks anyhow [14:48] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:48] shik4nt4z4: So, you're in flux, what exactly are you wanting to do? [14:48] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek8TANVV5Wo [14:49] ops [14:49] sorry [14:49] lol [14:50] fire|bird: Look into /etc/inputrc . I want to use the shortcuts into that file. [14:50] shik4nt4z4: Ok, but if you want shortcuts in fluxbox, why not use ~/.fluxbox/keys ? [14:51] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-103-60.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [14:51] chasmo77 (n=chas@69.4.142.174) joined ##slackware. [14:51] fire|bird: No. This time I want them for the shell. [14:51] shik4nt4z4: I'm not sure what would give you those type of codes. [14:53] Hm... Thank you! [14:54] fire|bird: how long have you been using linux? [14:56] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:56] See you tomorrow! Bye! [14:57] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [14:57] Reticenti: Either 1999 or 2000, I can't remember exactly. I started with RH 7.3 [14:58] good evening [14:58] fire|bird: give me a movie title suitable for me, my GF and a 14 year old who only thinks that zombies and firefights are cool [14:58] fire|bird: aka, something that keeps the pace up, but is NOT a splatter movie :P [14:58] jescis (n=Administ@adsl-93-66-190.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:58] fire|bird: see, i've only been using linux seriously for 2 weeks now :\ [14:59] that's why i'm writing my question book lol [14:59] Reticenti: have you read www.slackbook.org end to end? [14:59] macavity: Hmm, I'm not sure. I'm not much of a movie watcher myself. :P [14:59] macavity: parts of it [14:59] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420081.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:59] slackbook is awesome [14:59] fire|bird: dont give me excuses, i want results! :P [15:00] macavity: how about shaun of the dead? (if you dont mind the word fuck) [15:00] macavity: hahaha, that's really the truth. Is that pathetic? :P [15:00] Reticenti: the title alone gives me the hint that i dont want to waste 90 minutes that way [15:00] macavity: Last night, I discovered that I had 93M of free ram, I closed firefox, and it jumped to 668M free. :P [15:01] macavity: shaun of the dead is one of the best zombie movies out there :| [15:01] fire|bird: lol.. konqueror ftw ;-) [15:01] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-232.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:01] Reticenti: the entire point is that i *dont* want to watch a zombie movie [15:01] oh [15:01] macavity: konqueror is awesome. I'll be thrilled when it can use webkit, etc. too. Have you ever tried midori? [15:01] shaun of the dead is really funny though [15:02] Reticenti: i want a movie that can keep a 14 year old interested, yet not a run-off-the-mill action/splatter move, as the GF and I are going to be watching it too :P [15:02] labyrith? [15:02] only thing worse than a zombie movie is a zombie comedy [15:02] haha [15:02] :| [15:02] haha [15:03] and no "i know what you did before you did it last vacation your boss was on" isnt a good idea either [15:03] lol [15:03] macavity: lord of the rings :D [15:03] something like Face Off [15:03] macavity: Larry the Cable Guy Witless Protection. :P [15:03] how about napoleon dynamite? lol [15:03] j/k [15:03] hmmm... it's been a while since i saw Face Off [15:04] and i dont think that neither the GF nor the kid has seen it [15:04] Well, there ya go then. [15:06] this made me lol: http://imgur.com/KQ6AK.jpg [15:06] linus bitch slapping gates [15:06] jescis (n=Administ@adsl-93-66-190.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:06] g` (n=Romeo~@79.54.69.19) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [15:09] _bruno (n=bruno@201-43-157-123.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [15:10] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.16.201) joined ##slackware. [15:10] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: "BBIAW" [15:13] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [15:14] It was the best of times, it was the worst of times [15:15] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-232.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:15] estevao (n=estevao@189.115.200.150) joined ##slackware. [15:16] sdrv (n=siderov@85.183.133.34) joined ##slackware. [15:17] sdrv (n=siderov@85.183.133.34) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:17] chasmo77 (n=chas@69.4.142.174) left irc: "Leaving" [15:18] Kairos (n=Kairos@unaffiliated/kairos) joined ##slackware. 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[15:28] lol, well, I'm still here. :P [15:28] 6.6GB at ~900kB/s makes my cry [15:28] macavity: Ugh, that'll take a while [15:30] hi, I cannot find whether there is some native gui application under slack 12.0 to burn cd's .., is there ? [15:30] k3b should be there, if you did a full install and have kde. [15:31] evo- (n=evo@p4FCF1064.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Don't mind your make-up, make your mind up!" [15:32] mariocki (n=pikea@cpc4-bagu10-0-0-cust675.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:33] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [15:33] macavity: Have you messed with kdewebkit at all? [15:34] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: "êîãäà ÿ óìåð íåáûëî íèêîãî, êòî áû ýòî îïðîâåðã" [15:35] fire|bird: ok thanks, however it did not allow me to burn ( says he does not see the burning device ....., hmm what are the program permissions anyway ? [15:37] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [15:38] Has anyone tried gtk-qt-engine on Slackware 13 yet? I'm getting a compile error. [15:39] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:39] I found some forum post that said it might need libbonobo, though I can't see any mention in the error message. [15:39] Libbonobo sounds like it would be a rather idiotic dependency for gtk-qt-engine. [15:39] alphad64 (n=quassel@41.207.16.201) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:40] dbus(-glib) [15:40] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) joined ##slackware. [15:40] y0 Camarade_Tux [15:41] yoyo fire|bird [15:41] I figure that wasn't directed at me? :D [15:41] SuN: yeah, I can't manage to word it better :D [15:41] dbus-glib should replace libbonobo afaik [15:41] and it is indeed a weird dep [15:41] and is there a slackbuild for it? [15:42] Yeah, why on earth would I want half of gnome with gtk-qt-engine, the point is to avoid Gnome :) [15:42] Dunno, still looking. [15:42] None official, I guess. [15:42] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [15:42] Hm http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/gtk-qt-engine/ [15:43] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/gtk-qt-engine/ ? [15:43] :D [15:44] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC303FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:44] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [15:44] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:45] Ahoy Camarade_Tux [15:45] SuN: no issue here building gtk-qt-engine on 13.0 from the above link [15:45] Yeah, the slackbuild works fine... cool. [15:45] siderov (n=siderov@85.183.133.34) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:45] I guess I need to make a habit out of checking slackbuilds.org first. [15:46] There, got midori on the laptop now too. :D [15:46] They don't seem to be favored by google, or I'm just not getting the right keywords. [15:46] Midori is nice, pretty light-weight and the rendering is pretty good. [15:46] How do I change the default window manager? I have not yet started using the KDM or XDM yet. [15:46] kleanchap: xwmconfig [15:46] kleanchap: change the link in /etc/X11/xinit [15:46] Well or that :D [15:46] chmod a+rw /dev/dvdrecorder is it a reasonable way of turning on the cd burning ? [15:47] aloha aceofspades19 [15:47] caravel \\o caravel o// caravel \o/ [15:47] hello could someone answer me ?????????? [15:47] refugiado (n=refugiad@187.41.235.82) joined ##slackware. [15:47] paul424: slack 12.0 ->k3b [15:48] paul424: OMG, PLEASE HELP ME [15:48] ok, other question [15:48] run ls -l /dev/dvdrecorder [15:48] thrice`: hm ? [15:48] you should be able to just run k3b [15:48] fire|bird: Thnx! [15:48] yw [15:48] Hey thrice`, how's it going? [15:48] comments like: 15:47 < paul424> hello could someone answer me ?????????? are lame [15:48] good fire|bird , you? [15:49] thrice`: great, thanks. I'm going to mess with konqueror + webkit :D [15:49] he :P [15:49] fire|bird: the qt4 in 13 had some webkit bugs :( might want to upgrade [15:49] gonna try anyway. :P [15:49] thrice`: Hmm, ok. thanks. :) [15:49] thrice`: ":When with lames do as a lame." [15:50] Camarade_Tux: midori sure is an awesome little browser. [15:50] fire|bird: except it's not the little ;) [15:50] Camarade_Tux: Well, it sure works good [15:50] yeah, definitely [15:50] paul424: you asked a question, and then waited 1 minute for your response [15:50] I say that only because I've taken a look at the source and have been surprised at how big it was [15:51] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:51] anyway, what does "ls -l /dev/dvdrecorder" say? [15:51] paul424: HELLO, WILL YOU LET ME HELP YOU???????? [15:51] thrice`: next time buddy :P [15:52] paul424: If you're going to act the way you are, get out and go bother someone else. [15:54] where in the world is Carmen Sandiego?! [15:54] bolide: Where's Waldo? [15:55] paul424: sorry for the sarcasm; if someone doesn't answer you in less than a minute, it's not very polite to proclaim your dissatisfaction [15:55] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:55] Hi, welcome to Free Support. No guarantees! [15:56] thrice`: Have you updated qt for the webkit issues? [15:56] fatalnix (n=bhodgins@70.16.70.118) joined ##slackware. [15:57] spooge (n=spooge@173-18-193-232.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:57] lol evidently slackware qt doesnt come with rcc, so I'm hacking at it trying to get it to compile [15:57] not recently, but I bumped to 4.5.2 (vanilla) to fix mine [15:57] least in 12.2 [15:57] the one in slack 13 is ~4.5.1, which had some bugs fixed in 4.5.2 [15:58] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:59] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:59] problem is I'm almost scared ill have to compile Qt from source to get it [15:59] thrice`: ok, so you got vanilla instead of qt-copy. Thanks. :) [15:59] but 4.5.2 probably has the patches from qt-copy too [15:59] yep; the bugs I saw were webkit not allowing cookies on some sites, so the sites wouldn't work [16:00] I think this was why SBo pulled arora [16:00] inet6 (n=jj@ppp-128-248.32-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [16:00] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:00] I just looked, 13's qt comes with rcc, this is odd [16:01] thrice`: that could be. I used the 12.2 arora slackbuild and the latest arora source. [16:01] hi, i got strange problem i can see wifi networks but i can conect to them , the signal is ok i've use to connect from windwos [16:02] x1user: what are you trying to connect with? I mean, with which program/command? [16:02] wicd [16:02] and by default my wlan0 is not up [16:04] yermandu (n=Yermandu@201.28.104.101) joined ##slackware. [16:06] x1user: Is there any encryption on the nextworks? [16:06] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] no [16:07] spooge (n=spooge@173-18-193-232.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [16:07] that's cool that 13 comes with ff35 [16:07] yep [16:07] x1user:Does 'iwconfig' show that your adapter is associated with the access point? [16:08] yermandu (n=Yermandu@201.28.104.101) left irc: "Conectado." [16:08] I'm hoping to upgrade this laptop soon but as of right now I can't [16:08] not with the fs layout and all. [16:08] i am not sure, but i think yes, adamk_ [16:08] possible, just very tricky [16:08] nositelicense (n=nositeli@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:08] plus I have no space left heh. [16:09] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-28-2.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:09] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-28-2.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:09] x1user: It should be easy enough to see. If it's associated, it will show 'ESSID:' and display the ESSID of the network. [16:10] adamk_ i know i just am to place that i can connect now [16:10] cant [16:10] Well it's kind of hard to diagnose, then, if you can't test things :-) [16:11] All I can suggest is that if it shows as associated, and there is no encryption, try running 'dhclient' on the interface and see if it gets an IP. [16:11] ok so i will try another time, thanks for the help [16:11] i will [16:13] I installed slack on a friend's computer and now I want to show her wicd but I can only access the computer through ssh, I tried 'sbopkg | tee foo' and 'tail -f foo', it works but it isn't perfect : it doesn't update when I up/down in the menus (dialog) and it breaks "EscEsc" (but that on is minor), any advice? [16:13] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [16:15] odd how I have the qt libs package installed and libqtgui is missing.. ugh.. I realy wish I could be wired in right now [16:15] someoooooone help me! [16:15] xD [16:15] fatalnix: :) [16:16] fatalnix: what tells you libqtgui is missing? [16:16] hydrogen [16:16] I'm trying to record an example of some of my music without a drummer as a prototype. [16:16] with a ./configure script? [16:16] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) left irc: "Saliendo" [16:17] I couldnt compile hydrogen from source, 12.2 doesnt come with rcc, which is used to compile recources into qt [16:17] comes in 13 though.. [16:17] update :P [16:17] so yeah, one thing after another :P [16:18] thing is I dont have enough space at all, and nothing to get rid of to free space, with my fs layout its nearly impossible, so I need to get another sata cable so I can back some stuff up, because ftp isn't working right, and sftp is lagging. [16:18] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:18] between my desktop and such, the wireless in my room is horrible. [16:19] I dont know why they just dont make hydrogen accept gtk only. [16:19] or something [16:20] as well as qt [16:20] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:20] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC303FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:21] I'm checking on slackpkg [16:21] if you don't use kde or many qt apps, you could try updating only qt [16:22] yeah [16:22] thinking about it but the downloads about 200 megs [16:22] compile ? [16:22] s/ // [16:22] lol [16:22] yeah [16:23] 120 megs [16:23] for the libs only [16:23] thisl take a while lol [16:24] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:24] and watch, 5 hours in compiling, error 2 because, "cant find everything.h!" [16:24] l0lwut (n=lolwut@069-064-236-052.pdx.net) joined ##slackware. [16:24] fatalnix: is it .gz, .bz2 or .xz compressed? [16:25] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:25] gz [16:25] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [16:25] true qt in slackware13 may have other extensions [16:25] fatalnix: get xz from slack13, it's a small download and I'll recompress the sources as .xz [16:25] I'm not sure if its the best idea to install slackware 13's qt on 12.2, I'm not sure what kind of bindings it depends on [16:25] it should make them 50% smaller [16:25] heh, zsnes builds with some funny compiler optimizations... -O99999999 [16:26] hmm [16:26] fatalnix: yeah, you should only try if you don't depend on kde apps [16:26] nasm optimizations, rather [16:26] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [16:26] no I dont have kde installed at all [16:27] does tar have build in handling for x? [16:27] xz* [16:27] built-in, *never* [16:27] lol [16:27] it doesn't have built-in for gzip either afaik [16:27] but xz is small [16:27] estevao (n=estevao@189.115.200.150) left irc: "Leaving." [16:27] just grab it [16:27] I dont mena it has a decompressor in it [16:27] I meant, does it know how to handle one [16:27] no it just knows how to pipe the output to gzip [16:28] I know tar depends on gz itself [16:28] and etc [16:28] fatalnix: now, yes, it does [16:29] 'xf' will work, or you can -J [16:29] or -a [16:29] i tihnk [16:29] think* [16:30] oh wow, are all the mirrors missing packages where packages.slackware.it think they are? [16:30] every tim eI look theere for 13.0 all of them respond with 404 [16:30] time I* [16:30] never had a problem with the mirrors I tried [16:30] hiptobecubic: -a ? [16:30] well if I access them driectly it works [16:31] Camarade_Tux, -a, --auto-compress use archive suffix to determine the compression program [16:31] hiptobecubic: didn't know that one [16:31] :) [16:32] Camarade_Tux, i just learned it a few weeks ago. apparently the tar man page isn't maintained but --help is [16:32] hiptobecubic: yeah, it isn't at all [16:32] hiptobecubic: check out info2man [16:32] I hate info so much [16:32] me too [16:32] as far as I know, almost everybody hate it [16:33] slackware could even not install it, noone would complain I guess [16:33] hdownloading now [16:33] snearch (n=olaf@e179130154.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:34] s/^h//; [16:34] anyway, still looking for a better way for 'sbopkg | tee foo' and 'tail -f foo' [16:35] Camarade_Tux, what is that supposed to do? [16:35] 22 kilobytes a seccond! I'm roarin in the wind! [16:35] hiptobecubic: tutoring a friend over ssh [16:35] fatalnix: \o/ [16:35] nvm 14 [16:35] averages at about 20. [16:36] Camarade_Tux, and what is that supposed to teach them? [16:36] how to use sbopkg? [16:36] Camarade_Tux: why do you hate info? [16:36] fatalnix: if you need something that is compressed as gz or bz2, ask me, I'll recompress it to xz which should make it much smaller [16:37] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [16:37] pi31415: because I find it unusable (at least because of hjkl), I always get lost, it never has the info I need/want but tons of useless crap [16:37] Camarade_Tux, why don't you share a screen instance? [16:37] hiptobecubic: sbopkg (she's non-tech) [16:38] hiptobecubic: hmmm, didn't know about that, gonna check :) [16:38] Camarade_Tux, i have a link.. just a second [16:38] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:38] Camarade_Tux: why not use arrow keys instead of hjkl? [16:38] (she's actually a bit techy but beginning on linux) [16:38] pi31415: because I use hjkl everywhere else [16:38] alright [16:38] pi31415: I don't use hjkl on purpose, it's natural [16:39] Action: Camarade_Tux feels like writing arrows on hjkl right now... [16:39] nositelicense (n=nositeli@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:39] becauseBecause people hate emacs [16:39] and info is pretty much like emacs. [16:39] Camarade_Tux: do you use hjkl in firefox? [16:39] Camarade_Tux, http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-10sysadtips/index.html [16:39] only not an editor. [16:39] pi31415: nope but I don't use arrow keys either [16:39] Action: hiptobecubic uses vimperator [16:39] pi31415: and I could use vimperator but won't because it helps me keep my motivation for my own browser [16:39] or.. [16:40] hiptobecubic: thanks a million :) [16:40] Camarade_Tux, not a problem [16:40] nevermind, it IS running in emacs [16:40] no wonder people here hate it [16:40] :D [16:40] I'm not even sure emacsers don't hate emacs... [16:41] s/emacs.../info/ [16:41] slava_dp (n=slava@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) joined ##slackware. [16:41] crowley (n=crowley@200.195.54.91) joined ##slackware. [16:41] Nick change: crowley -> Guest64852 [16:42] Camarade_Tux, #5 is also a good trick [16:42] ip-route (n=iproute@unaffiliated/contraventor) left ##slackware. [16:42] once in another channel i said that i liked slackware, and got a comment from another user who said he was not fond of dll hell [16:43] dwater (n=chatzill@54033409.catv.pool.telekom.hu) joined ##slackware. [16:43] blackula_ (n=blackula@97.81.105.128) joined ##slackware. [16:43] you should have corrected him, s/dll hell/system administration/ [16:43] hiptobecubic: \o/ [16:43] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [16:43] :P [16:43] Camarade_Tux, :D [16:44] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) left irc: "What the hell?" [16:44] I'm so bored, I am listening to the original dueling banjo's [16:44] lol [16:44] i love that piece [16:44] hiptobecubic: yeah, a friend gave me #5 two weeks ago, I wanted to use it for the same friend if she couldn't port-forward 22 :P [16:44] Guest64852 (n=crowley@200.195.54.91) left irc: Client Quit [16:46] oh, btw [16:46] hiptobecubic: \o/ [16:46] :P [16:46] Camarade_Tux, lol. It's working i assume? [16:46] fuel by metalica :P [16:46] jpcrowley (n=crowley@200.195.54.91) joined ##slackware. [16:46] hiptobecubic: not trying over ssh right now but I tried locally and that rocks :) [16:47] :) [16:48] jpcrowley (n=crowley@200.195.54.91) left irc: Client Quit [16:49] crap I lost the terminal that qt was downloading on [16:49] dont you hate that? [16:49] fatalnix, screen [16:49] should have used wget [16:49] tried looking under the sofa? stuff usually turn up there [16:49] this is why I don't use X sometimes. [16:49] use wget+screen [16:49] what window manager do you all use? [16:49] xfce [16:49] yo slackytude|evil :) [16:49] xfce [16:49] y0 Camarade_Tux [16:50] openbox [16:50] xfce [16:50] I am currently using xfce, think of switching to fluxbox [16:50] xfce isn't a window manager [16:50] -_- [16:50] :P [16:50] :D [16:50] lol [16:50] xfwm [16:50] "this does not look like a tar archive" [16:50] hiptobecubic: better :D [16:50] oh, sorry. I thought it was. [16:50] dhw, it's a "desktop environment" [16:50] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [16:50] yeah [16:51] that's what I was just going to say [16:51] ^^ [16:51] that has a window manager as part of its bag of tricks [16:51] ah [16:51] I don't even use the desktop [16:51] l0lwut (n=lolwut@069-064-236-052.pdx.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:52] I'd just wipe out this laptop's disk now, but its the last backup of my music, the only way to get it all back the way it came is to record it all from music records and cd's all over again. [16:52] sorry, i use GTK(?) (xfce) [16:52] do not many people use fluxbox? [16:52] which takes forever. [16:52] 9 gigs of that. [16:52] I use Fluxbox [16:52] Fluxbox is awesome [16:52] fatalnix: external drive? [16:52] Toast uses fluxbox [16:52] actually, isnt xfce qt? [16:52] Reticenti, no [16:52] I cant afford one unfortunately.. :( [16:52] I used it in the past [16:52] fatalnix: floppies? :D [16:52] i used fluxbox for a bit, but missed my panel and plugins too much [16:53] but went with xfce while setting up slackware [16:53] 9 gigs of floppies? [16:53] fatalnix: you should be able to find one for a few dollars [16:53] (maybe an internal one) [16:53] fatalnix, zip100 [16:53] what window manager does xfce use then? [16:53] and a 4GB SD card costs like 5 euroes [16:53] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:53] I have a 3 1/2 gb magnetic tape and tape drive but its on a parallel port, I've never gottenit to work [16:53] Reticenti, xfwm [16:53] Reticenti: xfwm ;) [16:53] ah [16:53] lol [16:54] :) [16:54] I'm going to build a new computer next fall for my cs classes [16:54] and I'm going to buy a brand new scsi tape drive, ownage [16:54] put scsi disks in it and everything. [16:54] fatalnix: that's why i installed slack on this computer, i ahve to program in linux [16:54] same. [16:54] openbox close to fluxbox? [16:55] better :D [16:55] what makes it better? [16:55] dhw: similar [16:55] Tassis (n=cesar@unaffiliated/tassis) joined ##slackware. [16:55] Reticenti: good choice ;) [16:55] ratpoison is nice as well [16:55] Camarade_Tux: better? :P [16:55] dhw: 1- fluxbox is ugly, 2- fluxbox is ugly, 3- openbox is cleaner [16:55] lmao [16:55] they basically use the same memory [16:55] Stamp (n=Stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:55] Camarade_Tux: IN that case, pekwm is better than BOTH. :P [16:55] fatalnix: why would you even bother with scsi disks? [16:55] fire|bird: see 1- and 2- [16:56] will you post a screen shot of your openbox [16:56] Camarade_Tux: my first distro i ever used was slack 10.1, and ever since I've always liked it the best, i've used ubuntu a lot, but i always wanted to go back to slack [16:56] from what I am seeing online they look a lot a like [16:56] jpcrowley (n=crowley@200.195.54.91) joined ##slackware. [16:56] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [16:56] obnauticus (n=l@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [16:57] dhw: They are alot alike. [16:57] bo0 [16:57] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:57] then how is fluxbox ugly if they are a lot a like? [16:57] sorry, I just want to make sure I make a good choice [16:58] ugly doesnt mean looks [16:58] they tend to have a lot of work setting up [16:58] all the time [16:58] yes, I know. [16:58] the setup process could be ugly, config and what not that is. [16:58] dhw: http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tr/contentPics/techrepublic_fluxbox_desktop.jpg [16:58] any question? [16:59] http://lewk.org/img/securityspin.png [16:59] Camarade_Tux: What's a Nubian? [16:59] LOL [16:59] or http://lewk.org/img/obfedora.png [16:59] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [16:59] godling: somebody form Nubia? [16:59] eldragon (n=eldragon@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [16:59] nubian is a manufacturer of starships in the starwars universe [16:59] Do people actually use SELinux? [16:59] oh yes and blackbox! [17:00] godling: redhat [17:00] (second and third screenshots are openbox) [17:00] blackula__ (n=blackula@97.81.105.128) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:00] or at least, they used to [17:00] I tried it before. [17:00] godling: yes and it definitely has a use [17:00] how do i atke a screen shot of my desktop :3 [17:01] s/atke/take [17:01] Reticenti: man xwd [17:01] ksnapshot ? [17:01] ksnapshot xwd scrot ...etc [17:01] import [17:01] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [17:01] and use optipng to compress further [17:01] dhw: fluxbox http://imagebin.org/64496 [17:02] Using SELinux makes you realize how insecure people really make their software. [17:02] optipng usually improves screenshots by 35% to 55% percent [17:02] chopp: conky? [17:02] imagemagick maybe,gimp also i think [17:02] is that a terminal built into the desktop? [17:03] godling: yes [17:03] godling: I want to use selinux in a software of mine to limit its rights in case the software has a security hole (that would be in webkit-gtk, not in my code) [17:03] looks nice bth [17:03] btw* [17:03] how did you do that chopp? [17:03] and security exploits are numerous, some are really hard to fix [17:03] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-232.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:03] I have not really messed with things like that [17:03] chopp, got the same background [17:04] dhw: not real difficult. Conky, a few adesklets, and a term. [17:04] the person in your wallpaper needs a manicure [17:04] lol [17:04] yeah, I have been messing with conky lately [17:04] openbox is waaaaay sexier -_- [17:04] http://omploader.org/vMjZuNA [17:04] it's nice [17:04] (usually people wonder where is openbox in this screenshot) [17:05] nice cmarade [17:05] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:05] Camarade_Tux, your computer scare me [17:06] guax: :) [17:06] Camarade_Tux: good god. i would call it terrible [17:06] that's the type of setup I am looking at doing [17:06] dhw: more space for what matters :) [17:06] Camarade_Tux, i cant see naked women there. so where its the matter? [17:06] chopp: what's slk? [17:06] chopp: (in that screenshot) [17:06] I only have a huge conky because it fills the space left by three terminals in vertical [17:06] further shows you that when it comes to desktop, personal taste differs [17:07] guax: I would say that's the exact problem. [17:07] ;) [17:07] guax: was in front of me :) [17:07] aeuhau [17:07] does adesklets come with slack 13? [17:07] estevao (n=estevao@189.115.200.150) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Camarade_Tux, now thats a good answer. but it states for "PICS OR DIDNT HAPPENED" [17:08] guax: actually there was noboy in front of me, only a wall but I don't care about the desktop, I never see it, I'd rather have something else ;) [17:08] and you'll never have pics :P [17:08] xmonad is pretty sexy [17:08] please, what is the package that updates usb devices rules, like a auto-mount a pendrive permission? [17:08] fatalnix, think not, my slackpkg confirms [17:08] ghc is sort of big though [17:08] ah [17:09] actually I have to find again a formar nearly girlfriend of mine I couldn't date because I and her had too much work ='( [17:09] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:09] xmonad is a tiling window manager, like ratpoison :D [17:09] I imagined marrying her, she was perfect =/ [17:09] (except she smoked) [17:09] fatalnix: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/desktop/adesklets/ [17:10] ah [17:10] powtrix: hal thingy [17:10] powtrix: any DE should do it now [17:10] thanks :) [17:10] DE? [17:10] eldragon (n=eldragon@84.79.67.254) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:10] powtrix: desktop environment, kde, xfce, gnome [17:10] maybe lxde too [17:10] here's my desktop: http://imgur.com/m9Lku.jpg [17:10] stay away from DE's! [17:10] use WM's! [17:11] DE's are bad for you, xfce is sort of between I'd say.. [17:11] technicly its a de but its no where near as heavy [17:11] I suppose ill, have to test out openbox then [17:12] blackula (n=blackula@97.81.105.128) joined ##slackware. [17:12] ew, facebook [17:12] BURN THE WITCH [17:12] lol [17:12] fatalnix: it's not as heavy but isn't very light either [17:12] :college: [17:12] Reticenti: What does that mean? [17:12] hm thanks [17:12] Reticenti: nice desktop [17:12] i'm in college, it's easy to keep in contact with friends with facebook [17:12] ah [17:12] thanks Camarade_Tux [17:13] I'm in college but I just keep in contact with people via email. [17:13] i'm still looking for ways to improve it though [17:13] godling: email is soooooooooooooo 2002 [17:13] :P [17:13] nice desktop [17:13] facebook bugs me [17:14] i tried to send my dad a link to ultima-thule.info and facebook blocked the message because they thought it was abuse [17:14] facebook is bad -_- [17:14] Well, the way I see it Facebook and MySpace makes it too easy for people who don't really care to pretend. [17:14] email better [17:14] godling: exactly [17:14] s/makes/make/ [17:14] too many people send a flood of personality quizes, dumb mafia games, etc. [17:14] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [17:14] yeah that pisses me the heck off [17:14] yes pi31415 [17:15] george clooney made an interesting statement about facebook... [17:15] haha yeah [17:15] uh oh, mulder is dead [17:15] certainly there might be a place for things like quizilla and the like, but that stuff ends up permeating the communal network space and makes things tired. [17:15] dhw: who? [17:15] i'm still trying to work on my conkyrc [17:16] Fox Mulder [17:16] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.58.249.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:16] dhw: uhmm, you know, that's a fictional character [17:16] ananke: George Clooney had words of wisdom? [17:16] godling: very much so. priceless quote [17:16] "Don't date hollywood socialites; they're all a bunch of crazy bitches." ~ George Clooney [17:17] godling: if you search for 'george clooney facebook', you should see it [17:17] yes I do [17:17] I am watching the x-files [17:17] and he had just died [17:17] You want me to associate "George Clooney" with the search history for my IP with Google? [17:17] Are you mad, sir? [17:18] blackula_ (n=blackula@97.81.105.128) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:18] That's like, my permanent record. [17:19] lol [17:19] use yahoo then :P [17:19] this is mine atm. pekwm,bmpanel,gkrellm, conky for extended weather http://omploader.org/vMmR2dA [17:19] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [17:19] the blue [17:20] it hurts my eyes [17:20] Stamp (n=Stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:20] lol [17:20] Rat409: nice. Different wallpaper, again. Sounds like me. :P [17:20] is that tar? [17:20] i will never understand the obsession behind having constantly cpu/mem/disk stats/activity data placed on the desktop [17:20] ananke: so i can see whayt's using all mah power [17:20] ananke: how else will you know if osmeone is hacking your gibson? [17:21] Reticenti: you actually care that much? [17:21] yuh i tend to prefer dark,themes,wallpaper easier on my eyes,all white i need sunglasses lol [17:21] I mostly use it for my cpu/gpu/hdd temp [17:21] Rat409: haha [17:21] ananke: I CARE, not one else will :'-( [17:21] Reticenti cares. [17:21] Care bears, STARE! [17:21] jpcrowley (n=crowley@200.195.54.91) left irc: "Leaving" [17:22] Action: godling waits for absolutely nobody to understand the reference. [17:22] Action: godling wins [17:22] godling: carbon,solid tar i guess [17:22] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [17:22] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:23] godling, I used to watch care bears [17:23] dhw: that still makes little sense to me. if it's in normal range, why do you need to have it displayed at all times? if it's reaching warning/critical states, why risk having it behind another application? it ought to be configured as a pop-up warning [17:23] I have been having temp issues, I don't keep it running all the time tho [17:23] ananke: so everytime my cpu hits 0% i should get a popup? no thanks [17:23] 80% [17:23] but yeah, it is annoying only having it on the desktop [17:24] Reticenti: you missed the point. entirely. [17:24] temp? [17:24] I found one to have on the sys tray [17:24] temperature [17:24] dhw: that makes more sense, using it for debugging purpose. i just don't see why some people run it constantly [17:25] the coolest conky thing i found was getting the changelog for slack stuff [17:25] because it's 1337! [17:25] dhw: thank you for being honest :) [17:25] yeah, pretty much that, dhw [17:25] it's nice for weather to I suppose [17:25] i have weather in panel [17:25] dont have windows? [17:25] it's almost like the kids who put countless gauges on their honda civic [17:25] I used to use a sidebar type thing [17:25] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:25] you can make conky have it's own window and stay on top [17:26] so I could keep it on the left side [17:26] dhw: i dont really like thoseconky weather ones [17:26] then maybe using openbox and their edge connect thing it would be better [17:26] so it's always on the left or right side [17:26] then, you could use it to display RSS info [17:26] hackedhead_ (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [17:27] have you looked at the python weather script? [17:27] yeah [17:27] i'd just ratherhave it in panel [17:27] and i always have ff open, and i have a weather extension for it [17:27] that is about as advanced as I have seen it, sadly. [17:27] I would like to have a radar image with it [17:27] taht would be neat [17:27] but you could grab that easy from weather.gov [17:28] Wurm (n=celestia@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [17:28] i need a bigger screen, if i did, i'd have more stuff in conky [17:28] hehe [17:28] but i just have a crt, so screen space is a little limited [17:28] no widescreen :( [17:28] I would like to use my 30" lcd [17:28] Slackers I have a problem! I tried to build the SlackBuild for fftw and the build errored. Now I have a bunch of files cluttering my Home directory. Is there a way to unbuild it? [17:29] but my main pc broke a month back, and I have been stuck using my laptop [17:29] did you not tar it into its own dir? [17:29] making programming a bitch on it [17:29] how did you manage that, Wurm ? [17:29] big mistake there =( [17:29] I did Tar it into its own directory but its also in my Home :\. [17:30] I think I can just delete all the files no problem, they're pretty organized but itll take up some time. [17:30] what did yo uuse [17:30] tar xzvf? [17:30] Any shortways to do it? [17:30] No, just tar xzf [17:30] find for creation data [17:30] er date [17:30] Wurm: why cant you just delete the directory/ [17:30] Because it's in my Home. [17:30] xD. [17:30] It just unzipped to my home I think. [17:30] oh [17:30] you unzipped it into ~ [17:31] Possibly? [17:31] not ~/packagename? [17:31] Not sure. [17:31] Wurm zip or gzip? [17:31] I have found it handy to make a Downloading folder [17:31] wurm do you use mc? [17:31] so you don't run into that problem [17:31] I'm not 100% sure what I did, but it tar'ed into its own directory AND into my Home. [17:31] All the folders in my Home are also in its own Directory. [17:31] If that makes sense... [17:31] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl6-223-26.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:32] it copied your ~? nice! [17:32] >_< [17:32] that takes mad skill0rz [17:32] that sucks [17:32] Lmfao. [17:32] Yeah it does. [17:32] I guess I'll just delete by hand... [17:32] do the file names and pattern to them? [17:32] you gonna answer my questions first? [17:32] dhw: What? [17:32] Wurm: why dont you move your other files to a tmp dir, and remove everything in ~ [17:32] Quiznos: What question? [17:32] zip or gzip? mc? [17:33] Quiznos: It's a tar.gz [17:33] k [17:33] and? [17:33] Wurm: Do the files have a pattern in the name, or are they all just different? [17:33] They're just all different. [17:33] and? [17:33] Ex: api cell dft doc genfft [17:33] libbench2 [17:33] Etc. [17:34] AND? [17:34] there's another quetion to answer [17:34] ? [17:34] can you do a ls -la of your /home and put it on pastebin [17:34] nm [17:35] dhw: What's the command to output commands to a text file? To make my life simple. [17:35] wow; learn to read what is atually written. [17:35] Wurm: script [17:35] Wurm: ls -ls ~ > out.txt [17:36] you can do like ls -la > output [17:36] Yeah I got it :]./ [17:36] I remembered. [17:36] Thanks. [17:36] Ah Jesus. [17:36] I have to go. [17:36] I'll deal with this later. [17:36] Thanks for trying to help xD. [17:37] Wurm (n=celestia@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left ##slackware. [17:37] he sux at reading [17:37] lol [17:37] well, hmm [17:37] i ask umpteen fking times if he used mc and never answered [17:37] it wolda been so easy to undo his prob with mc [17:37] all he had to do was like find -mtime [17:38] and mc can do that [17:38] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:38] sort to time; END key, mark undesirable files [17:38] F8 [17:38] delete. [17:38] I wounder if he tried google [17:38] hehe [17:39] i dont care. [17:39] okay, time to switch to openbox [17:39] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [17:41] anyone use slapt-get? [17:42] not anymore [17:42] slackpkg foreva [17:43] slackpkg ftw [17:43] first i used swaret, realised it sucked [17:43] tried slapt-get, realised it sucked too.. but less [17:43] omg i'm surround my ass's on freenode [17:43] ftp ftw [17:43] HELP HELP [17:43] my/by [17:43] Quiznos: remember teh alamo! [17:43] omg [17:43] wtf? [17:44] i'm not in the mood for pplwho cant read english. [17:44] maybe i should goto a *-es channel [17:44] then you should write in english, so people can understand. [17:44] i ahve been [17:44] :| [17:44] they refuse to ansewr what i write [17:44] have* [17:44] answer* [17:44] im realy not used to abbreviations =P [17:44] srdjant (n=srdjant@host81-155-106-132.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:44] okl byte me [17:45] ok; [17:45] bite [17:45] or packet bytes? [17:45] I think Quiznos is excited. [17:45] C00re you gonna be a regular here? [17:45] Quiznos: Did you take your medication? [17:45] I have never heard of slapt-get, was just asking is all. [17:45] Hi. any idea why grub would be throwing error 15: file not found when a kernel in the same directory works. and using grub command line i can boot the failing kernel without problems? [17:45] no [17:45] Quiznos: ive been here for years. [17:45] oh [17:45] agent? [17:45] godling, or he's under medication. that does explain [17:46] C00re so you're taking on a gramma-nazi persona now? :) [17:46] Quiznos: mostly i dont [17:46] heh [17:46] i just a bit bored atm [17:46] not that i'm feeling persecuted atm :) [17:46] i like to be corrected on irc, when i need to write seriously then i commit less errors [17:46] nods [17:47] can i use commit in that context? [17:47] feel free to make mistakes here; C00re will fix it for ya [17:47] dwater (n=chatzill@54033409.catv.pool.telekom.hu) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]" [17:47] C00re, =** [17:47] haha [17:47] That's like a fetish, then? "Oh, correct me master." [17:47] lol [17:47] :D [17:47] stoopit user gave me a pissy mood [17:48] damn, i'll find him now and fix his wagon [17:48] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:48] what's his IP? [17:48] What if he doesn't have a wagon? [17:48] godling: yeah, correct me, correct me, I've been a bad naughty boy! [17:48] then i'll knock his block off [17:48] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [17:48] over IRC [17:48] give him a twisted nose bleed [17:49] a knuckle sammich with hot peppers [17:49] Camarade_Tux ``please sir, may i have another?'' [17:50] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:50] Quiznos: \o/ [17:50] ananke: George Clooney watched two girls one cup. [17:50] ananke: This information was in the same article where he mentioned Facebook. [17:51] I wonder why we don't have more girls here, they all love SM, don't they? [17:51] nop [17:51] mariocki (n=pikea@cpc4-bagu10-0-0-cust675.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:51] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:52] I think the emotional age in this channel peaks at 13 or so. [17:52] Perhaps that is why. [17:52] Zexan (n=me@unaffiliated/zexan) joined ##slackware. [17:52] heh [17:53] Camarade_Tux: did you know that its been proven that 9/10 people enjoy gang rape? [17:53] godling: I thought more like 15 actually [17:53] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders how are the 30 people on this channel who don't :P [17:53] hackedhead_ (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:53] 260 arent here actually [17:54] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [17:54] I see 295... [17:55] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:55] -30 == 260 [17:55] -5 for lurkers [17:55] :) [17:55] it's the new math [17:55] -5 for clones ;) [17:55] no no no [17:55] they dont write [17:55] -5 for me.. I'm a fat ass. [17:55] kool confession [17:58] quasar: I hope you're paying for the extra seats [17:58] prepaid [17:58] lol [17:58] no in flight googling [17:58] sQuEE (n=narya@201.253.212.242) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:58] and its not seats these days.. they're blue benches (I use 2.5 blue benches) [17:59] like old buses [17:59] with the bar behind your head [17:59] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:59] yep.. you dont wnt to be sitting in the row behind me though because if I decide to take a nap your life could be in danger. [17:59] lol [17:59] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.58.249.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:00] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.58.249.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [18:00] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [18:00] when i was in junior high, i was a member of the school bowl league; had to take a bus to get to the lanes. [18:00] after school, then bowling one afternoon a week; then bus ride home; i always found the rear most seat by the window. [18:00] then went to sleep. [18:01] and other people in the bowl league did naughty things to you during your sleep :) [18:01] they still do, and he permits it [18:01] nah; they all had rides home. [18:02] Quiznos: you still bowl? [18:02] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:02] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [18:02] i'd like to; neighbor just got a Wii; apparently my skills are still good. [18:03] but im not sure of Wii's waxing skills [18:03] I wonder if there is a WiiVirtualPorn using the WiiFit hardware [18:03] lol [18:04] if you get into it when you get here there's a good chance you'll be bowling against my brother some time [18:04] and you could aim with the WiiMote [18:04] snearch (n=olaf@e179130154.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [18:04] kool [18:04] but i'm not ready for wii tournement [18:04] for a * [18:04] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:05] i wonder if there is a wiivirtualSM with the wiimote as a strapon... [18:05] and a whip [18:05] lol ew [18:05] lol [18:05] Reticenti: hahaha :P [18:05] bbs [18:05] SlackBack (n=SlackBac@76.73.16.26) joined ##slackware. [18:06] blackula_ (n=blackula@97.81.105.128) joined ##slackware. [18:06] i got my system downgraded to 12.2, but i have a strange bug that shows some google results [18:06] i see it when make clean on kernel or just typing xargs [18:06] xargs: xargs.c:445: main: Assertion `bc_ctl.arg_max <= (131072-2048)' failed. [18:08] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:08] they say its a findutils bug but i never saw it before on 12.2... [18:08] /var/log/packages/findutils-4.2.31-i486-1 [18:08] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:08] Action: Camarade_Tux bets on glibc [18:08] did you try re-installing findutils? [18:08] yes [18:09] (actually I don't bet on it but that wouldn't be unlikely) [18:09] and how did you "downgrade" [18:09] i even removed it and reinstalled it [18:09] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:09] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [18:09] Camarade_Tux: its not that hard...i made a few mistakes (like removing core-utils) that made it take longer [18:11] not that it may be hard but that I'm not sure it's meant to work [18:11] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [18:11] people on slackware have gotten this error before...just not me, im looking at scroogle results now [18:14] blackula (n=blackula@97.81.105.128) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:14] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: "Leaving" [18:14] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:14] interesting [18:15] do you guys have anything in /var/cache/packages [18:16] i'm looking at /var/log/messages, and i see this: [18:16] Sep 19 02:27:13 kronos kernel: Program dd tried to access /dev/mem between 101000->101200. [18:16] is that bad? [18:17] doesnt dd set the bits on memory? [18:18] /var/cache/packages seems like a slackpkg deal? [18:18] k thx [18:18] and what is "kronos"? [18:19] my machine name :3 [18:20] Slack, try camarade's idea, reinstall glibc and findutils [18:21] usr_local (n=usr_loca@c-76-97-113-50.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:21] blackula_ (n=blackula@97.81.105.128) left irc: "Leaving" [18:22] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [18:22] srdjant (n=srdjant@host81-155-106-132.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "leaving" [18:22] How do I change from xfce to openbox? [18:22] i might...but i just installed everything... [18:23] dhw: xwmconfig [18:23] ahh that's it! [18:23] thank you [18:23] from scratch? that sounds smart. tbh the system sounded fubar'd [18:23] ah, openbox does not come with by default [18:24] ill grab the slackbuilds [18:24] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:24] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:24] brb [18:25] should I use obconf? [18:25] Tassis (n=cesar@unaffiliated/tassis) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [18:25] nope [18:25] well [18:26] Tassis (n=tassis@unaffiliated/tassis) joined ##slackware. [18:26] obconf isn't maintained afaik, it mostly works but isn't fail-safe afaik [18:26] and yes, use the slackbuild for openbox, much better [18:26] rrh_ (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [18:26] dhw: obconf -- OpenBox graphical configuration tool [18:26] You may want to try LXDE, it uses openbox as the window manager [18:27] yeah, some site recommended it [18:27] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [18:27] It looks fancy and starts *fast* [18:27] slava_dp (n=slava@195-248-167-186.static.vega-ua.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:28] godling: did you want that slk stuff? [18:28] which one should I select xinitrc.openbox or xinitrc.openbox-session [18:28] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488719.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:28] there is xfce on a friend's netbook and it doesn't start really fast, at first I thought there was a problem then I realized comparing to only openbox on a much faster computer wasn't good at all [18:29] dhw: session iirc [18:29] you could go with the other one but session is better [18:29] ah yes [18:30] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016729.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:30] SlackBack (n=SlackBac@76.73.16.26) left irc: "CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)" [18:30] it looks like it's setup for people who don't use a graphical login screen [18:30] and use startx to run X11 [18:30] brb [18:30] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:31] what is a vice grip? [18:31] does anyone here use zsh/ [18:31] lee555J5 (n=lee@71.91.2.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:31] http://images.google.co.uk/images?num=50&hl=en&q=vice%20grip&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi ? [18:31] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [18:31] Reticenti: yes [18:31] Camarade_Tux: why did you switch to zsg? [18:31] dhw: isn't that how everybody start X? :D [18:31] hm it seems it's using xfce [18:32] Reticenti: completion \o/ [18:32] Trying to find an xz decompressor [18:32] what do you use with it Camarade? Gnome? [18:32] fatalnix: xz-utils? [18:32] fatalnix: xz from slackware13? [18:32] Camarade_Tux: i've heard a lot about it's completion, but doesnt bash have completion too? [18:32] dhw: nothing [18:32] need to get it on 12.2 to get this qt working [18:32] well maybe it's not using it [18:33] dhw: if you want a desktop environment, check out lxde as alienBOB said [18:33] but google is being a douche [18:33] I don't [18:33] I just saw xfce Settings in the menu [18:33] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [18:33] ok [18:33] do you have a toolbox? [18:33] slackware/kde clipboard really really suck [18:33] i have to copy stuff twice [18:34] and sometime the clipboard magically erases itself [18:34] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:34] kde is annoying [18:34] dhw: the menu is predefined, many things in it won't work right now [18:34] hi surrealgirl [18:34] yeah [18:34] I like it but the little annoyances pile up [18:34] hi Camarade_Tux [18:34] I have to make my own [18:34] I am just making sure it's right sorry :x [18:35] finally found it! [18:35] xz utils [18:35] What Terminal do you use? [18:35] Camarade_Tux: how does zsh's autocompletion differ from bashes? [18:35] slackytude|evil: are you evil today? [18:35] hdhq: /dev/pts/0 or /dev/ttyX [18:35] Is anyone using a non-stock firmware on their store-bought router? [18:35] :D [18:36] mrselfpwn, do I look like I am? [18:36] hiptobecubic: I am. [18:36] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:36] /dev/pts/X* [18:36] mrselfpwn, which? [18:36] slackytude|evil: I can't see you. [18:36] mrselfpwn, as in which router and which firmware [18:36] hiptobecubic: dd-wrt [18:36] wrt54g [18:36] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:36] haha xz utils comes in an xz! [18:36] which version? [18:36] (hardware version) [18:37] hmm, goo question [18:37] good [18:37] fatalnix: but there is an usable .tgz package in slack13 on purpose ! [18:37] wow! [18:37] Reticenti: more powerful and more complete [18:37] what a waste of time lol [18:37] hiptobecubic: im using Tomato on WRT54G [18:37] hiptobecubic: version 8 [18:37] surrealgirl (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [18:38] hmm [18:38] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [18:38] i have a wrt54g v2 [18:38] mrselfpwn: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Linksys_WRT54G/GL/GS/GX [18:38] It's got openwrt on it right now [18:38] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) joined ##slackware. [18:38] siimo, why Tomato [18:38] ? [18:38] surrealgirl: I was out, checking some overn prices today and saw a Miele oven, definitely more expensive than everything else (thinking about your breath apparel) [18:38] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-420081.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:39] hiptobecubic: i prefer its interface compared to dd-wrt, also the QoS is better and more stable.. like the SVG traffic real time graphs and bandwidth usage monitor [18:39] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:39] slackytude|evil is actually a fluffy teddy bear ;) [18:39] with sharp claws [18:39] slackytude|evil: a well endowed teddy bear [18:40] well, obviously [18:40] what if slackware supported freebsd tbz's? heh! [18:41] fatalnix: I guess that would be okay...I'm kinda tired of freebsd [18:41] they wouldn't work? :) [18:41] anyway, txz is superior [18:41] fbpanel looks cool [18:42] oo pypanel [18:42] I am already liking openbox [18:42] ^^ [18:42] lol [18:42] the nice thing about openbox is that it's a WM and nothing else [18:43] and it does it job well [18:43] lol [18:43] do you use any of those programs? [18:43] yet still beta [18:43] whats the difference between a WM and a DE? [18:43] so im all set up for that.. ill try getting that done [18:43] screenpager [18:44] Desktop Environment [18:44] de's are bad [18:44] wm's are awesome. [18:44] fatalnix: oh thanks, now i get it :| [18:44] lol! [18:44] :P [18:44] fluxbox ftw [18:44] and gnome voids your warranty :D [18:44] XD [18:45] A window manager only manages windows. A desktop environment has a window manager that it uses plus gives you a lot of extra stuff like configurations. [18:45] like xfce desktop environment uses xfwm (xfce's window manager). [18:45] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.207.16.201) joined ##slackware. [18:45] what do you mean by configurations/ [18:46] Reticenti: well, different things and they usually give you a gui where just a WM would not. [18:47] like for keyboard shortcuts, printer configuration, etc. [18:47] oh ok [18:47] so a wm wont have a gui interface to setup printing ? [18:47] you'd have to do it via txt files/ [18:47] ? [18:47] also most importantly they give you a menu to start applications from [18:48] Reticenti: you should be connecting to localhost to set up printing [18:48] :661 I thing? [18:48] yep [18:48] think* [18:48] 631 [18:48] Reticenti: for printing you can use you web browser to set it up with cups. [18:48] fatalnix: printing was just the example :P [18:48] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [18:48] localhost:631 actually [18:48] heh [18:49] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [18:49] cups webinterface has become really good [18:49] Reticenti: but yes, a window manager doesn't come with those type things. you can still install any app you like and even run DE stuff from a different [18:49] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-135-218.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [18:49] DE even if you aren't using that DE. [18:49] decompressing qt txz.. ill just recompress it as a tgz [18:50] as long as it's installed [18:50] blackthorne (n=bthorne@unaffiliated/blackthorne) left irc: [18:50] the kind of automatic setup these days is amazing [18:50] just hooked up my old HP and right there it was [18:50] ah, ok [18:50] on the network I mean [18:50] forgive my confusing sentence lol [18:51] compared to that, the KDE printer wizard sucks [18:51] inman (n=root@p579B4ED5.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving." [18:51] i'd like to see a wider support for printers in linux [18:51] one place it lacks imo [18:51] huh? couldnt say that, had no problems with it for years [18:52] I set up my printer the other day [18:52] but I mainly get to play with HP's [18:52] it was nearly all automatic [18:52] mrselfpwn: my hp p2015 is identified right away [18:52] it was like, click click type boom all set up [18:52] yeah, HPs work nicely. Lexmark, not so good. [18:52] yeah [18:52] longest thing to do is fill out the comment and location section [18:53] I think I am in love [18:53] whats her name? [18:53] dhw: quite sending me flowers [18:53] quit* [18:53] ^^ [18:53] too bad you couldnt use tar to convert archives [18:54] =( [18:54] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [18:56] ohh, changelog changed [18:57] fatalnix, converting is a one-liner [18:57] ugh, still have the damn lib problem [18:57] slackpkg update, install-new, upgrade-all, right? [18:57] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [18:57] this is driving me nuts, I need some sort of place to just dump all of my music and stuff [18:58] not like I can download it [18:58] quite a bit of it is one of a kind :) [18:58] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.58.249.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:59] fatalnix: what are you trying to do again? [18:59] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@74.236.254.6) joined ##slackware. [18:59] new mesa update btw [19:00] I'm trying to upgrade qt on 12.2 with the libs from 13.0 [19:01] why do you need to move all your media files? [19:01] why don't you just have both qt's live harmoniously together on your box? [19:01] because I want to format this thing [19:01] and put 13 on it [19:02] oh [19:02] and all my music is legal, from our records, etc, even ones form family bands that dont have cd's? etcetera [19:02] alphad-64 (n=alphad64@41.207.16.201) joined ##slackware. [19:02] ive got 9 gigs of it [19:02] no external hdd? [19:02] nope. [19:02] didn't you setup your partitions wisely? [19:03] yeah... :/ [19:03] fairly, unfortunately I'm out of lvm space and everything [19:03] dunno, but saying you have one-of-a-kind music and no backups sounds kinda dumb [19:03] we used to [19:04] we used to have a bunch, but recent happenings of disk deaths and all have sort of put my laptop to the last one containing them [19:04] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-21-81.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:04] external drives are very cheap as are dvd burners, what's the excuse? [19:04] I can't remember, did anyone here used a bcm43*12*? [19:04] fire|bird: ^^ [19:05] I have one trick up my sleeve [19:05] Camarade_Tux: BCM4306 here [19:05] but ill need to get a keyboard [19:05] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [19:06] fire|bird: http://www.linuxquestions.org/blog/jimx86-247932/2009/9/5/slackware64-bcm4312-lp-phy-and-proprietary-broadcom-driver.-2245/ [19:06] is 4312 the one with a few variants, some of ehic are not supportted well? [19:06] he states some 43xx aren't supported [19:06] mancha: well, seems so [19:06] alphad-64 (n=alphad64@41.207.16.201) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:07] Action: Camarade_Tux is going to recompile and install a new kernel on a remote box through ssh after applying an official from broadcomm... [19:07] Camarade iirc there was one which was and one which wasn't, a/b/g vs b/g [19:07] ph34r [19:07] not sure which is which [19:09] I think the 4312 doesn't work ;) [19:09] no, there are some that do and some that don't [19:09] alphad-64 (n=alphad64@41.207.16.201) joined ##slackware. [19:10] at least one some protocol. but i remember reading it was a problem chipset [19:10] which hw uses 4312 btw? to stay away :) [19:10] remote kernel upgrade [19:10] great fun [19:11] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.207.16.201) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:11] when i try to add a notification area to my xfce panel, i get this error message: Could not open "systray" module [19:11] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:11] Bassist (n=bass@62.8.157.98) joined ##slackware. [19:12] anahel (i=anahel@unaffiliated/anahel) left irc: [19:12] Camarade_Tux: I don't know about other broadcom chipsets, but my 4306 works great with b43-fwcutter and b43-firmware from SBo. [19:12] heh, I slog through packaging djvulibre and djview4 for slackware 13 only to find that okular is already there and can read djvu documents [19:13] pi31415: then you waste your time further by proclaiming it in the channel. ;P [19:13] it was not time wasted though, good lib to have to manipulate them [19:13] Anyone get LXDE to work successfully under SW 13? [19:13] mancha: good point there [19:13] fire|bird: the guy on LQ doesn't read like a clueless noobuntard so I'd trust him [19:13] Camarade_Tux: yeah, I know. :) [19:13] plus the title starts with "Slackware64" ;) [19:14] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:16] Platyna (i=platyna@platinum.edu.pl) joined ##slackware. [19:16] hI. [19:16] I have a notebook HP 2510p. [19:16] It has crappy mouse stick along with usual touchpad. [19:17] But I can't find the touchaad device. [19:17] Platyna: Did you look in front of your keyboard? [19:17] did you look around the keyboard? [19:17] bah [19:17] it should be under the keyboard [19:17] I do try to cat and mouse my mouse all /dev/input/* or /dev/psaxu or /dev/mouse [19:17] Nada [19:17] mancha: too slow ;) [19:17] godling: Go fuck some goat, thanks. [19:17] ;) [19:17] Or make over with mancha. [19:17] ;o) [19:18] Action: Bassist grabs some popcorn [19:18] Action: Platyna looks on her nails. [19:18] adamk_ (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:18] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:18] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:19] So any non-troll people on? [19:19] you on 13? [19:19] you need to improve your question to get non-troll support [19:19] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [19:19] Is goat fucking so popular in .pl that it's actually not offensive to say something like that? [19:20] te_ (n=te@adsl-68-94-201-192.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:20] Action: pi31415 laughs about the non-troll support comment [19:20] nachox (n=nacho@190.175.254.117) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:20] Platyna, Please specify the nature of your slackware emergency [19:20] the corporations should hire trolls for their sucky support tier [19:20] If you'd like to make a call, please hang up and try again. [19:20] pi31415: They do. [19:21] slackytude|evil: I said so. [19:21] pi31415: They're all located in .in [19:21] Above. [19:21] I use Slackware 13.0 [19:21] And config from slackware 12.2 [19:21] Platyna, and you dont have touchpad in X? changed your xorg.conf? [19:22] Platyna, you might try looking at /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf [19:22] Action: Camarade_Tux currently doing remote assistance over reverse ssh connections with shared screen sessions :D [19:22] Guys, I've built alien Bob's slackbuilds for LXDE, but am not sure in which order to install the packages [19:23] Or whether there is such a thing [19:23] as an install order [19:23] slackytude|evil: I have touchpad in X however no scroll. [19:23] Bassist: Look in the readme file and build using that order. [19:23] my touchpad did not work until i uncommented options psmouse proto=imps and rebooted [19:23] So I tried to find the device both "mouses" are in. [19:23] Using cat. [19:23] But kinda I am failing at this. [19:23] Outsourced slackware support: 3 minutes of elevator music; person #1 requests your full info including name, email, etc.; more elevator music while you're transferred to the right section; person #2 asks for the same exact info; then asks you to go to Start->Control Panel-> [19:23] I can only find touchstick signal. [19:23] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-28-2.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:23] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [19:23] Camarade_Tux: but are you hanging upside down from a rappelling line while you're doing that? [19:24] mancha: Go troll to #windows or something. [19:24] I have an older machine that I've installed 13.0 on. I'm using it as an mp3 player, (as well as a samba server). Since it's an older machine, I'm using xfce so that I can run xmms for the ogg files, (just called it an mp3 palyer, guess that's not accurate, it is an ogg player). But problem is, a screensaver came on and crashed the system. I went into System -> Display -> Screensaver and there didn't appear to be any screensaver sele [19:24] mancha: person 3 says something inane such as "Always remember, wherever you go, there you are!" [19:24] haha [19:24] hah [19:24] Platyna: You need to recognize the difference between joking and trolling. [19:24] fire|bird: I checked it, but it only gives an alphabetical list of all the packages [19:24] I'm wondering where that screensaver came from? May still be on, because it's been over a minute and no blank screen as yet. [19:24] And a recommendation list [19:25] Bassist: yes, build in the order of that list. :) [19:25] Platyna, might need fixes to your xorg.conf [19:25] Platyna seems like a very hostile individual. does that approach generally lead to a lot of goodwill on the channel it visits, i wonder... [19:25] Anyone using xfce4 on Slackware 13.0? If so, have you notice a screensaver coming on by default? [19:25] Platyna, afaik, there should be an entry in the slackwiki [19:25] fire|bird: Ok thanks [19:25] yw [19:25] manha: you done with that goat yet? [19:26] brb, reboot [19:26] Bassist (n=bass@62.8.157.98) left irc: "Leaving" [19:26] godling: no, not yet, but give me a second ;p [19:26] fatalnix (n=bhodgins@70.16.70.118) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [19:26] done? not till i smell the morning bread.... [19:26] pi31415: naaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh [19:26] and vim tutoring over ssh+screen could work [19:26] Camarade_Tux: let me know, I'll cue the Mission Impossible theme [19:26] godling: I have no sense of humour ok? Wanna joke, enroll at saturday night live. [19:27] wth are you two doin here?! :) [19:27] I just want a working touchapd. [19:27] this is MY turf [19:27] heh [19:27] get yer own [19:27] Quiznos: you REALLY want to know? :P [19:27] slackytude|evil: All problems I googled were due to wrong device. [19:27] nop [19:27] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:27] But I can't fight the right one. [19:27] srdjant (n=srdjant@host81-155-106-132.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [19:27] "kstartupconfig 4 does not exist or fails. The error code was 3" ?? [19:28] Xorg log mentions /dev/input/event0 and /dev/input/event3 but when I cat it and move on my touchpad I get no response. [19:28] is gpm running? [19:28] sounds like a cat & mouse problem [19:28] lol [19:28] tundar [19:28] Platyna gpm? [19:28] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:29] godling: hahaha :P [19:29] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:29] I'm watching /var/log/messages now for some error... if it locks up again. Twice now, it has locked up and had to do hard reboot. [19:29] GPM is shut down. [19:29] damn, he has no funibone? [19:29] Camarade, could I have your openbox theme? [19:29] Platyna try it in repeater mode [19:30] GPM? [19:30] yea [19:30] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:30] man it [19:30] I don't use gpm. [19:30] try it [19:30] O. [19:30] mancha: Sounds like an idiot on a tree problem. [19:31] You have just one bullet and alot of leafs around so you need to aim well. [19:31] screensaver just came on again. It's geometric shapes expanding and changing... [19:31] It's yet to crash. Maybe it wont do it this time. [19:32] But cpu usage is above 70% now [19:32] I wonder if it will crash if I try to access the samba share? [19:33] asm.ba sam.ba [19:33] Ok, well, not going to crash this time. I wonder if maybe the cpu is overheating at times.. [19:33] does the idiot on the tree have a working touchpad? [19:34] actually, cpu usage for X is 75% and 13% is being used by xmms [19:35] So it's running very close to 90% [19:35] te- thats sounding quite wrong... [19:35] are you running on a commodore64? [19:36] mancha: It is a PII 700MHz [19:36] ivandi (n=ivandi@70.50.166.85) joined ##slackware. [19:36] With 256M RAM. [19:37] i'm on dual core 2.3ghz + 3 gb ddr2 and i find linux is too slow in some cases. not sure why :( [19:37] amd 3200 1gb ddr ram [19:38] especially when transferring a lot of data on disk [19:38] srdjant: get some ssd's :D [19:38] maybe it's a SMP issue or block io issue [19:38] and has onboard video that shares RAM [19:38] me too [19:38] Reticenti: expensive to replace all these disks with ssd [19:38] Rat409 (n=nobody@205.209.95.119) joined ##slackware. [19:39] srdjant: just get one? [19:39] Reticenti: why just one? [19:39] and did you see that one video where they had like a 1tb ssd raid? [19:39] why not? [19:39] Reticenti: yeah but how expensive is a 1tb ssd raid ? :) [19:39] srdjant: it was a viral video, was pretty impressive though [19:40] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs [19:40] there it is [19:41] gnubien (n=e@16.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:41] oh [19:41] it's only a 6tb raid :| [19:41] 24 256gb ssds [19:42] so I set up my bank account to do online banking, and I swear my bank is retarded [19:42] they open all of office in .5 secs [19:42] and open every app on windows in 18 seconds... [19:46] your personal access code has to be 7 numbers, and not start with a zero, so there is only 630 diferrent combinations [19:46] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:46] morelike 9000000 combos [19:47] 9*10**6 [19:48] he, broadcomm's patch against their own files doesn't work [19:48] basically, the files at http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php don't match [19:48] (yes, there are four files) [19:48] aceofspades19: you've got 7 spots and no zero on the first, so that's 9*10*10*10*10*10*10 combinations [19:48] 81,000,000 combinations [19:48] which isn't very much for a computer [19:48] no, i gave the total already [19:49] --> 9000000 <-- [19:49] yep [19:49] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [19:49] Hey so im backing up to some spare disks I found that my friend handed to me a while ago [19:49] you could still brute force it pretty easily [19:49] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left ##slackware. [19:49] theyr'e ide, but they're bth the same exact serial no. size, etc [19:50] I can raid them like a charm when I get a chance to :) [19:50] Nick change: bhodgins -> fatalnix [19:50] aceofspades19: most banks in the US lock your account after three bad password attempts [19:50] Would make sense. [19:50] thats true [19:51] however, paypal lets you guess forever!@ [19:51] last I tried. [19:51] haha [19:51] that's because paypal is immune to hackers [19:51] estevao (n=estevao@189.115.200.150) left irc: "Leaving." [19:51] I wouldnt say that [19:51] I was being facetious. [19:51] my mother actually got hacked on paypal [19:51] lol [19:51] parimo__ (n=parimo__@28.Red-79-152-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] you could dos people's bank accounts [19:52] hmm [19:52] the "can't start with zero" thing seems sorta dumb though [19:52] yes [19:52] I wouldnt try it lol [19:53] mancha: probably some internal record thing [19:53] yep [19:53] Action: godling shrugs [19:53] they should just code better [19:53] ganeshix (n=ganeshix@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:53] hey, it's a global recession [19:54] the recession is coming to an end though [19:54] marcos (n=marcos@189.7.116.187) joined ##slackware. [19:56] nn peeps [19:56] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [19:56] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: [19:58] hello everybody! [19:58] ganeshix (n=ganeshix@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [19:58] ahoy [19:58] Nick change: marcos -> marcosestevesbar [19:58] aceofspades19: dont count your chickens before they hatch [19:58] Nick change: marcosestevesbar -> marcosbarbosa [19:59] dimm0k (n=dimm0k@pool-96-224-25-68.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:59] the topic is... rpm2txz! go! [19:59] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016729.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [19:59] using kde 4.2.4 and slackware 13.0... anyone know why plasma starts to use more and more cpu as i stay in kde? [19:59] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@75.56.48.15) joined ##slackware. [19:59] probably just cach [19:59] e [19:59] nepomuk? [20:00] fire|bird: 4312 works with not-yet-merged patches [20:00] mancha: ^^ [20:00] i send a patch to pat to support tarxz and txz [20:00] nepomuk is retarded [20:00] is a good idea? [20:01] dimm0k: plasma was eating up a lot of my cpu cylces...I turned off nepomuk and it went away [20:01] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:01] what the hell is nepomuk? [20:02] jinjii, yeah! is a hell! :) [20:02] its a retarded program that lets you search for files and crap and takes up lots of cpu [20:02] Camarade_Tux: nice. [20:02] very true [20:02] so i guessed right! [20:02] get rid of... [20:02] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [20:02] sounds like that damn microsoft office thing "findfast" just a useless cpu hog [20:03] anything like Google Desktop, RipVanWinkle? [20:03] and disk agitator [20:04] no, it just scans and scans and scans every file on your harddrive, even crap it has no business scanning like system files [20:04] why would an office app need to scan system files? [20:04] rookit shit [20:05] srdjant (n=srdjant@host81-155-106-132.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "leaving" [20:05] the same reason that netbeans needs to look at every .zip on your desktop [20:05] its not an anti-virus, and nobody is going to edit binaries and libraries in ms-word [20:05] usr_local (n=usr_loca@c-76-97-113-50.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:05] to see if its really a jar [20:05] this was something including with word97 [20:05] neonflux: sweet, thanks. let me try that [20:06] ganeshix (n=ganeshix@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:06] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:07] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:07] ganeshix (n=ganeshix@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). 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[20:13] But I'm not even sure that's what was causing it to crash. May be overheatin CPU or... well, I just don't know, but am now suspecting Hardware. [20:14] alphad-64 (n=alphad64@41.207.16.201) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:14] kde team dreamin' sell it to M$$$ [20:14] huh? [20:15] when can wicd say "no wireless network found", iwlist s properly see the network [20:15] ? [20:15] Camarade_Tux: what? [20:15] AH [20:15] X is using 4% and xmms is using 12% [20:15] Camarade_Tux: check the preferences to ensure it's using the write device [20:16] Camarade, some wicd's were not too good at finding APs that didn't broadcats their ssid [20:16] the so-called hidden ones [20:16] thrice`: yeah, that what I had in mind [20:17] (remote is always a bit harder) [20:17] http://pers.yaxm.org/temp/a.png [20:17] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1176016729.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:17] big freaking terminal o_O [20:18] godling: yeah, exactly ! [20:18] I'm doing a screenshot to show my remote the difference [20:19] Camarade_Tux: I'd try updating wicd to 1.6.2.2, where they fixed the hidden ssid issue completely [20:19] http://pers.yaxm.org/temp/p.png [20:20] thrice`: ah, good to know that was an issue that is now fixed [20:20] but the ssid isn't hidden [20:20] guess I'll just install wicd and check here [20:20] oh, that should work then [20:20] under preferences, it shows your proper wlan0 or so ? [20:21] er, eth1 I see from your shot [20:21] hrmm i don't think i like calling a wireless device: eth1 [20:22] Abog (n=toofer@c-71-199-13-151.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [20:22] dimm0k_ (n=dimm0k@pool-96-224-19-168.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:22] 802.3 != 802.11 [20:23] mancha: 2 + 2 != 5 [20:23] mancha: next lesson we'll learn to multiply [20:23] ;P [20:24] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.207.16.201) joined ##slackware. [20:24] http://pers.yaxm.org/temp/a.png :) [20:25] I had to import + scp to get these screenshots >< [20:25] currently I am : ssh -R + ssh + ssh + screen -x/-S + su - + whatever >< [20:25] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [20:26] thrice`: apparently, the ssid is hiddent [20:26] Camarade_Tux, throw a socksproxy in there too [20:26] s/t$// [20:26] slackytude|evil: I added import + scp + http to do the trip back :) [20:27] thrice`: is 1.6.1.1 enough? [20:28] I *think* that one still had some quirks [20:29] so source + .slackbuild ? [20:30] personally, I'd definitely upgrade before spending too much time on it [20:31] yeah, doing that right now [20:31] bah [20:32] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: "Leaving" [20:33] lee555J5 (n=lee@71.91.2.18) joined ##slackware. [20:33] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:35] lol [20:35] cat ~/.wicd/WHEREAREMYFILES [20:35] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:36] thrice`: the network was "" before but now has it actual name :) [20:36] just from updating? [20:37] te_ (n=te@adsl-68-94-201-192.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:37] thrice`: think so [20:37] but updating including a restart of wicd too, so that may account for it too [20:41] dimm0k (n=dimm0k@pool-96-224-25-68.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:42] did you change eth1 yet? [20:43] yeah, was changed but the ssid was said to be "" [20:44] (iwlist s didn't report it as hiddent though and I know it wasn't hidden) [20:44] yeah the hidden gets fixed with upgrading, the eth1 needs to be fixed in your scripts [20:44] dhw (n=dhw@ip70-171-182-160.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:45] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:45] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [20:45] I am can't seem to switch themes anymore [20:46] mancha: oh, I had misunderstood your question, no, eth1 is still named eth1 [20:47] I don't plan to change it, it wasn't a very practical setup today [20:47] pretty funny but not practical [20:48] attention, c'est un probleme [20:48] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:48] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-162.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:49] uva (i=bno@118-160-167-45.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:50] Is there a file that you can save data to without growing it? like piping to /dev/null [20:51] heh [20:51] duthac (n=chatzill@FUSE-DEDICATED-66-161-181-131.fuse.net) joined ##slackware. [20:53] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: "Leaving" [20:53] ... [20:53] can you save to dev null.... [20:53] oh god [20:54] lawwwd [20:54] lost data? [20:55] no [20:55] ivandi (n=ivandi@70.50.166.85) left irc: "Leaving" [20:55] I was testing lan speed and needed a dump [20:55] just a case of foot in mouth, I think [20:55] ;P [20:56] Action: godling differentiates hiptobecubic [20:56] sigh [20:58] lolwut (i=1000@24.20.175.97) joined ##slackware. [21:01] Tirili (n=opera@dslc-082-083-158-026.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] parimo__ (n=parimo__@28.Red-79-152-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:04] hmmm, was cleaning files on a computer that is now connected to the living room tv and found some sexy pics [21:04] I have to say I have pretty good taste ^^ [21:05] mancha: hmmm, 1- you're speaking french? 2- what problem were you refering to? [21:06] calling a wireless device ethX [21:06] firedix (n=firedix@host40.200-117-196.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:07] well, that's on a netbook, I guess most apps won't care about it [21:08] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "leaving" [21:08] yeah, it's notgoing to break anything except my sense of right & wrong [21:08] :) [21:08] ;) [21:09] I've been pretty surprised to see how broadcomm was now linux-friendly :P [21:10] with the ceo in jail and the competition going linux-frienly, maybe they had no choice? [21:10] and the netbooks ;) [21:12] Wurm (n=celestia@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [21:13] Is there a reason why while playing StepMania I am forcefully logged out randomly? [21:13] #stepmania? [21:15] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:15] logged out of stepmania, or X ? [21:17] Wurm (n=celestia@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:18] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:18] Wurm (n=celestia@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] Yeah it just happened again. [21:18] \Ugh. [21:19] X I guess [21:19] Wurm: which graphic driver? [21:19] Is there some weird keyboard shortcut that is set to logout that I mgiht be hitting? [21:19] Radeon. [21:19] X isn't crashing though. [21:19] I just get logged out. [21:19] fglrx or open-source? [21:19] Open. [21:19] check your log in /var/log/Xorg.0.log after it happens [21:19] FGLRX fucked up my system last time I tried using it. [21:19] thrice`: Tried, nothing. [21:20] and Xorg.0.log.old ? [21:20] Didn't know that existed Camarade_Tux. [21:20] I'll check now. [21:20] the alt-fkeys can switch you to consoles [21:20] are you doing alt-f1 or f2 or summit? [21:21] I might be hitting them on accident... [21:21] Would that log me out though...? [21:21] it would appear to [21:21] since it would put you on a login screen (console) [21:22] Ah. [21:22] That's probably it then. [21:22] ctl+alt+f7 might bring you back :) [21:22] f6, no? [21:22] Where would I edit those shortcuts? [21:22] f7 [21:22] f7 by default [21:23] 6+1 [21:23] tty1-6 exist, and X starts on the next [21:23] i always forget and sometimes have an off by one [21:23] then i say woops and increase to f7 [21:23] Where do I edit those damn shortcuts :]? [21:23] I'm not sure, honestly [21:23] you need ctl+alt+fX in stepmania ? [21:24] next time you "log out" press alt-f7, if you go back to X then that was it [21:24] Okay. [21:24] I'll go play until it happens and try hitting Alt+F7. [21:24] Wish me luck :\. [21:25] yeah, ctrl-alt i meant [21:25] Reticenti (n=reticent@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:25] it shouldn't log you out at all [21:26] just switch you to a difference vc [21:26] use ctrl-alt-f7 [21:26] neonflux (n=mrjones@209.19.58.106) joined ##slackware. [21:26] X is usually mapped to f7 [21:26] Wurm (n=celestia@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:26] no, it just does the next tty - it's not coded to any specifically [21:27] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-135-218.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [21:27] on my system, I only load tty 1-3, so X starts on 4 [21:27] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [21:27] thrice`: why not more? [21:27] Wurm (n=celestia@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] Nah Id on;t think that';s the problems. [21:28] ctrl-alt-f7 didn't give you joy? [21:28] #stepmania told me that it happened with some Nivida drivers on new versions of the X server. [21:28] I dunno, I never use more than 2 or 3, so .. why load more? :) [21:28] Nah, it's not like i get kicked out of X. [21:28] It's as if i litterally told it to Log me out. [21:28] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [21:28] I* [21:28] so it kicks you back to console, at a login ? [21:29] Not in a console [21:29] Just to login. [21:29] hi, whats the best way to change the wlan0 MAC address? I am looking at rc.inet1.conf but everything is commented out, i am using WICD for wlan [21:29] thrice`: I was wondering what were the advantages: speed, memory... ;p [21:29] siimo: man ifconfig iirc [21:29] I guess less processes is a good thing, no? [21:29] and you can't change it, you can fake it [21:29] stop wardriving [21:29] On a strange sidenote, one of my Widgits was moved in my task bar. [21:29] thrice`: he, right, but running firefox probably ruins every other effort you could make ;p [21:29] mancha++ ;) [21:30] im not wardriving, college only allows one MAC address [21:30] Should I try playing as Root? [21:30] Maybe it's a User issue. [21:30] you shouldn't do anything as root [21:30] Mmkay. [21:30] yup [21:31] Gah. I don't know what the damn problem could be though. [21:31] It doesn't make sense. [21:31] especially if something behaves badly ;p [21:31] Hm, I'm going to go try again only using the default theme. [21:31] Maybe the theme is fucking it up. [21:31] yeah the last thing i'd do is give root privs to a thing which is already logging me out of X [21:32] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@74.236.254.6) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [21:32] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left ##slackware. [21:33] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:33] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] Wurm (n=celestia@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:37] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [21:37] Wurm (n=celestia@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [21:37] Nope, not a theme issue. [21:37] I am completely lost now. [21:38] Could it be because I used a Binary version and didnt actually install it? [21:38] zero0one (n=zerone@ppp-94-64-193-154.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:38] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:42] Wurm: How do you start X initially? [21:42] Init 4 by default. [21:43] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:43] It wouldn't be the radeon open source drivers would it? X would crash if it was right? [21:43] rrh_ (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:43] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:43] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [21:45] Wurm: I don't think so. Do you use gdm? [21:45] GDM? [21:45] when you start your machine in init 4, do you see a graphical login screen? [21:46] Yes. [21:46] That's what I get kicked to. [21:46] ok, that was going to be my next question [21:46] All the options are there. [21:46] I can pick to login as my user or root. [21:46] To shutdown. [21:46] Etc. [21:46] It's not like anything is missing. [21:47] blackula (n=blackula@97.81.105.128) joined ##slackware. [21:47] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@174-23-148-241.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:47] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@173.60.119.54) joined ##slackware. [21:47] I don't see why anything would be missing. [21:47] I'm just saying xD. [21:47] Tirili (n=opera@dslc-082-083-158-026.pools.arcor-ip.net) left ##slackware. [21:47] can you login to X and actually do stuff without logging out? [21:47] what is the problem? [21:48] Um. [21:48] What do you mean? [21:48] When I log back in everything is as I left it, with Step being closed of course. [21:48] I came into the end of the conversation, are you trying to choose another desktop manager for login? [21:48] I can do anything. [21:48] mfillpot: No, we're trying to figure out why StepMania logs me out randomly xD. [21:48] #stepmania isn't helping at the moment either. [21:49] Wurm: is it logging you out of your profile? [21:49] Yes. [21:49] Well, if it's kicking you back to a login screen then X is crashing. [21:49] so it's probably something the game is doing [21:49] There';s nothing in the log though :\. [21:49] Nick change: dimm0k_ -> dimm0k [21:50] Wurm: launch the game from the terminal while sending the output to a text file, then you can use that file to find the issue? [21:50] Can anyone here recommend a password manager that runs on slackware 13? [21:50] Then just wait until I log out? [21:50] Log back in and check the txt file? [21:50] Wurm: yes [21:50] I'll try that. [21:50] Be back in a few. [21:50] Wurm (n=celestia@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left ##slackware. [21:50] pi31415: why not just remember your passwords? [21:51] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [21:51] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [21:51] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@174.23.157.101) joined ##slackware. [21:51] mfillpot: because I have about 5 dozen accounts, some of which I seldomly use [21:51] mfillpot: if his passwords are anything like mine, it's difficult to remember a string of randomly generated characters :) [21:52] I just sstore mone an an encrypted vim text file, not need for a program to linger in the background [21:53] so the passwords linger in temporary files and memory [21:53] hrm, i see keepassx is installed already [21:54] that was me, nevermind [21:54] but I am wondering what people normally do [21:54] what? [21:54] normally people memorize a single password and use it on several different sites [21:54] normally people aren't very secure [21:54] :P [21:55] there are lots of password managers, though [21:55] usr_loca1 (n=usr_loca@c-76-97-113-50.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] godling: they removed keepassx from slackbuilds so i thought i might "shop around" [21:55] I write mine down and tape them on the edge of the monitor [21:56] pi31415: If you use kde why not use kde wallet? [21:56] mfillpot: i will look into that. hopefully it has an export feature so i do not feel locked in. <=) [21:58] quasar: I write mine all down on a standard sheet of 8.5"x11" paper. Then I go to the local high school and tape them on the slide-out paper tray in the front-office secretary's desk. [21:58] no export feature [21:58] godling, that is hardcore [21:59] pi31415: whats wrong with keepassx? [21:59] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.66.127) joined ##slackware. [21:59] nix_chix0r: It's flawed because I need to pull hte fire alarm and get sent tot he principal's office everytime I need to remember a password. [21:59] chopp: they removed it from slackbuilds.org [22:00] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Client Quit [22:00] pi31415: Use the slackbuild from 12.2 [22:00] godling, that is failure [22:00] pi31415: kdewallet can export to an xml file [22:01] nix_chix0r! :) [22:01] sup Camarade_Tux [22:01] usr_local (n=usr_loca@c-76-97-113-50.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: No route to host [22:01] hey nix_chix0r, how's it going? [22:01] firedix, pretty good. we were going to go midnight bowling tonight but for some reason they aren't doing it today [22:01] ah, keepassx was in a group of packages that were removed because they ran out of time to test packages on slackware 13 [22:01] so just going to hang [22:02] nix_chix0r: nice tab completion fail. :D [22:02] keep ass x [22:02] woops [22:02] haha [22:02] noobfarm! [22:02] godling: :p [22:02] Action: nix_chix0r cowers in corner [22:02] it's 4am here, I should maybe go to bed [22:02] nobody would get that joke deco [22:02] Camarade_Tux: Not until you get the browser done. :O [22:02] :P [22:02] godling: that's what you think [22:03] deco: indeed [22:03] what else am I thinking? [22:03] fire|bird: hahaha :P [22:03] :O [22:04] fire|bird: I spent some time on the webkit-gtk ocaml binding today and should spend some more on tomorrow too but I'm still stuck because of gobject-introspection's suckiness [22:04] Action: godling steals deco's pants and leaves them in the year 2525 [22:04] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:04] guess I'll try their mailing-list too, *maybe* that will work ='( [22:04] where can i find dos2unix? [22:04] godling: im not wearing pants [22:04] [ in bed ] [22:05] deco: You shouldn't IRC whilst naked. You might get something caught in something. [22:05] godling: who said im naked ? [22:05] godling: that's what she said ;) [22:05] Reticenti: on the internet [22:05] Reticenti: or "fromdos" ? [22:05] deco: you just said you weren't wearing pants. [22:05] (and "todos") [22:06] fire|bird, look at you being pg-13 rated [22:06] deco: pants == underwear [22:06] godling: and your point is ? [22:06] nix_chix0r: haha [22:06] OH [22:06] Reticenti: re: dos2unix...try hd2u or tofrodos [22:06] thanks [22:06] I guess that makes sense if you're going commando [22:06] i'm making tofrodos now [22:07] godling, ever take a pill and it starts dissoliving in our moouth and its horrible [22:07] Reticenti: do you plan to use dos2unix often or just a one time thing? [22:08] nix_chix0r: yes, pseudoephedrine :x [22:08] i damn near puked heh [22:08] projectile vomit ftw [22:08] i once had to swallow it so i didn't spew all over my office [22:09] moo [22:09] neonflux: it was just a one time thing this time, but maybe i'll use it later? [22:09] i can't belive my video is fucked lke that [22:10] Hackers do it with bugs. [22:10] Wurm (n=celestia@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [22:10] Reticenti: if you want a quick and dirty way just try this ----> sed -i 's|\r||g' [22:10] Rat409 (n=nobody@205.209.95.119) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [22:10] Not a god damn thing. [22:10] thats a funny one [22:10] Just a long list of my scores. [22:10] fatalnix: says you [22:10] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:10] Although it did take much longer to log me out while I was running the output into a text file. [22:10] neonflux: thanks, but it's already installed :P [22:11] Wurm: there's nothing in the Xorg log file? [22:11] godling: Nope, I think it resets after I log back in. [22:11] does stepmania keep a log file? [22:11] now i'm trying to make a mkv file i have less huge [22:12] Wurm: there are the log files and the .log.old fiels [22:12] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:12] Wilblake (n=matheus@unaffiliated/wilblake) joined ##slackware. [22:13] Reticenti: alias dos2unix="tr -d '\r'" [22:13] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left ##slackware (" ERC Version 5.3 (devel)"). [22:13] AHA. [22:13] I think thig might be it! [22:14] "Fatal serve error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting." [22:14] server* [22:14] r/win 26 [22:14] Then it tells me a whole bunch of shit is closed and that it blanks my Screen and stuff. [22:14] yeah, that's a bad error [22:14] thrice`: "Fatal" Bad? I could have never guessed. [22:14] xD. [22:14] So how do I fix it :\? [22:14] godling its funny because its true. [22:15] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:15] you really can't; it means their software is dying for some reason [22:15] last time i caught a sig11 was when my pentium classic was overheating in 1998 [22:15] Wurm: does dmesg say anything? [22:15] mi] mieqEnequeue: out-of-order valuator event; dropping. [22:15] Does that mean anything? [22:15] Camarade_Tux: How do I use dmesg? [22:16] you're best bet is to file a bug, and hope they are attentitive / caring. it's not slackware related [22:16] are you running the latest version of the game? [22:16] you type dmesg at the command line Wurm [22:16] 3.9... [22:16] your * [22:16] Wilblake (n=matheus@unaffiliated/wilblake) left irc: Client Quit [22:16] Wurm: when out just got dropped out of X, try dmesg |tail [22:16] How do you change to 12hour clock in kde4? [22:16] Camarade_Tux: So wait until I catch a sig11? [22:16] Then do it? [22:16] usr13: what happens when you right click on the clock? [22:17] Says "What's this" [22:17] ok. I'm just guessing. :) [22:17] Wurm: actually you don't need to, just pastebin your dmesg [22:17] Action: Camarade_Tux is suddenly getting really tired [22:17] Do it now? [22:18] no, wait a few hours [22:18] ;P [22:18] Dominian: he :P [22:18] usr13: system settings, then regional and language section [22:18] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-storgziurnsfrsah) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:18] usr13: click on the time tab [22:18] usr13: under System Settings --> Regional & Language --> Time and Dates .... change Time format from "HH:MM:SS" to "pH:MM:SS AMPM" [22:18] http://12.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kp8zgb5fDp1qzyb6po1_500.jpg shes lovely lmao! [22:18] ok, keyboard fail plus double tab fail [22:18] neonflux: beat you [22:18] :D [22:18] time to go to bed [22:18] :P [22:19] Camarade_Tux: Want to wait for my dmesg ;D? [22:19] Pig_Pen: lovely in what sense? I don't see any lovely at all. :P [22:20] it's a mother/daughter moment [22:20] http://pastebin.com/d2d125f63 My DMESG output. [22:20] a zombie/vampire's dreamgirl [22:20] Wurm: I'll be up for a few minutes but not much longer [22:20] Pig_Pen: zombie day ;) [22:21] Camarade_Tux: Well I'd appreciate any amount of help xD. [22:21] I just want to be able to play Step for more than five minutes without having to relog x_x. [22:22] dmesg doesn't seem to show anything, and what about the xorg log already? [22:22] Says I caught a Signal 11. [22:22] lolwut (i=1000@24.20.175.97) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [22:22] Fatal Error or something. [22:23] but just before, no detail? [22:23] has anyone here ever transcoded a mkv file? [22:23] Camarade_Tux: One second. [22:24] Reticenti: mkv is just a container, be more precise [22:24] Camarade_Tux: i have a 5.7 gb mkv video i want to make smaller by getting rid of some of the quality (trying to stream over wifi via samba) [22:25] smaller as in reduce the size [22:25] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [22:25] Camarade_Tux: The only things before it are some Backtrace stuff and this: [22:25] "[mi] mieqEnequeue: out-of-order valuator event; dropping." [22:25] Not finding Regional & Language in System Settings. [22:25] Oh well. [22:25] At least the honly things that look important. [22:25] only* [22:26] usr13: try the system help or Google [22:26] Reticenti: ffmpeg [22:27] :) [22:27] Wurm (n=celestia@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left ##slackware. [22:28] Wurm (n=celestia@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [22:29] Stupid Pidgin. [22:29] Wurm: which slackware version? [22:29] Camarade_Tux: 13 [22:29] pebkac [22:29] godling: getting ffmpeg to work when you've never transcoded something is another thing though :\ [22:29] Reticenti: try using the manpage, it tends to help. [22:29] Wurm: and checked google? [22:29] Reticenti: if that doesn't work, I'm sure you might find some examples on Google [22:29] s/on/through/ [22:30] artv61 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:30] yaxm.org/!mieqEnequeue+out-of-order+valuator+event+dropping [22:30] godling: all the examples i've found dont work [22:30] lists a fe things [22:30] now, bed [22:30] i've been trying to get to work for about an hour [22:30] it's 4:30am [22:30] night/morning [22:30] :) [22:30] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [22:30] he, thanks ;) [22:31] yeah, gone, night [22:33] Wurm (n=celestia@70.44.171.198.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left ##slackware. [22:35] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [22:38] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [22:40] jpcrowley (n=jpcrowle@200.195.54.91) joined ##slackware. [22:40] sheesh [22:40] wb Rat409 [22:40] thanks [22:40] jpcrowley (n=jpcrowle@200.195.54.91) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:41] anyone work with systemrescuecd (especially off a pendrive)? [22:41] hadn't looked at it since 0.2.9; just fired up 1.2.1 -- wow! [22:41] Rat409: I tried changing the bmpanel arch theme to slackware, but it didn't work well, the first attempt anyway. :P [22:42] i use arch also but don't really like that theme . [22:42] just compressed over 2 GB into 380 MB [22:42] Rat409: cool. I have arch in a VM [22:43] why? [22:43] i have well probly 20-25 themes from dA,box-look etc i can tarball them for you [22:43] Because he is betraying us! [22:43] godling: why not? :P [22:44] fatalnix: Who is he? :D [22:44] anyone. [22:44] pronounds ftw. [22:44] i use slack also [22:44] lol [22:45] estevao (n=estevao@189.115.200.150) left irc: "Leaving." [22:45] slack is awesome, it's cool having other distros to mess with too. Arch is a great one to mess with. [22:45] yuh [22:46] It is sort of slow in a VM though. :/ [22:46] fatalnix: what compression method did you use? [22:46] xz [22:46] :) [22:46] osiro (n=osiro@200-161-50-165.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:46] tar -cJf [22:46] yuh,i've only run small distro live-cds in a vm [22:46] It'd probably work nice on my laptop. I have slack on there right now. :P [22:47] mostly for diff wm themes [22:47] I was just curious how much it would. [22:47] yuh [22:47] ah [22:47] osiro (n=osiro@200-161-50-165.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [22:47] what kinf od files did you compress? [22:47] all binary [22:48] well, obviously [22:48] but like, [22:48] binary apps [22:48] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.124.60) joined ##slackware. [22:48] ah [22:48] so its definately descent [22:48] if it were 2 gigs of text files i'd expect much more lol [22:48] source code * [22:49] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:49] yeah [22:50] making sure I backed up my ~/dev directory [22:50] probably a good idea :P [22:50] is that where you keep all your programming pojects? [22:51] yep [22:51] well I changed it [22:51] Rat409: Ever checked out arch-stuff.org for arch themes, etc. ? [22:51] now I kep it in development [22:51] but it doesnt matter lo [22:51] lol* [22:51] fire|bird: a couple times [22:52] I don't really like using capitals in directories but I find it easier to clean out my ~ that way now, you can easily use simple regex that way too and check the rest [22:52] l [22:54] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.124.60) left irc: "leaving" [22:54] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [22:54] i have /home all cleaned out with mv and all, and theres still 20 gigs of stuff and I cant find it with du or anything.. [22:55] this is why I changed some things ;) [22:56] blackula_ (n=blackula@97.81.105.128) joined ##slackware. [22:56] blackula (n=blackula@97.81.105.128) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:57] fire|bird: my bmpanel themes,most stock from authors,a few modd'd http://www.filefactory.com/file/a0a0efd/n/asstorted_bmpanel_themes_tar_gz [22:57] Rat409: cool. Thanks. [22:57] sure [22:58] biab [23:01] running shredder [23:01] :D [23:02] slacks (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [23:03] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:03] Nick change: slacks -> |Slacker| [23:03] fatalnix: nice. :) [23:04] shredding is fun [23:05] ok [23:05] im not going to find the missing 40 gigs for some reason [23:05] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:06] 30 actually [23:06] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] maddslacker (n=corey@c-71-196-190-154.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] is everyone sleeping? [23:07] fatalnix: missing 30G? [23:07] was just wondering that myself [23:08] anyone gotten supertuxcart to work on slack64? [23:08] fatalnix: grep missingdataz /dev/sda ;P [23:08] lol [23:09] maddslacker: yes [23:09] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [23:09] du isnt helping, I think because I have 30 gigs of 10 mb files [23:09] or something [23:09] mfillpot, I tried the official download, no go, is the source around somewhere? [23:09] maddslacker: what official download? [23:10] maddslacker: are you talking about using the source? [23:10] fatalnix: what are you trying to do? [23:10] mfillpot, http://supertuxkart.sourceforge.net/Downloads#header_linux [23:10] maddslacker: are you new to slackware? [23:10] back stuff up and get rid of things I should [23:10] mfillpot, no [23:11] firedix (n=firedix@host40.200-117-196.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [23:11] maddslacker: use the slackbuilds, all issues have been resolved [23:11] maddslacker: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=kart [23:11] cool, that was what I was looking for, but didn;t see it [23:11] Action: maddslacker wipes glasses [23:12] mfillpot, thanks [23:12] fire|bird, hi [23:12] maddslacker: I never go with the items on the webpages, I use a slackbuild and if one doesn't exist I make it myself [23:12] now I only have 19 gigs taken up [23:12] i mean 22 [23:12] mfillpot, yeah, I shuold do that, but laziness gets the better of me [23:12] hello all you happy people [23:13] removing .wine [23:13] yo nyRednek [23:13] 14 gigs left in /home now :) [23:13] mfillpot, how goes it? [23:13] fatalnix: it's cool you're excited about backing stuff up, but do we really need a play by play? :) [23:13] hmmm...reminds me... [23:14] nyRednek: not bad, jsut been bored [23:14] fatalnix: are you doing straight backups or are you compressing? [23:14] i have 27.7gb free on my notebook [23:15] just straight for now, I'll sort out stuff later [23:15] ney nyRednek [23:15] hey* [23:15] that's how you lose stuff fatalnix [23:15] and then format the backup disk to prepare it for raid [23:15] fidesratio, hey [23:15] fire|bird, even [23:15] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:15] I only compressed some of the things I needed [23:15] fire|bird, i need some non-linux related help [23:15] and big stuff [23:16] this wont be long term backup, only for a day or so. [23:17] I need to get my dake drives working too. [23:17] I wonder how much room you'd have if you did 'rm -rf .porn' ;P [23:17] habaneros (n=habanero@71.250.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:17] toastytoasts granny porn? [23:17] I had him get rid of it [23:17] nyRednek: are you having some type of issues? [23:17] granny porn should be illegal [23:17] I know right? [23:18] just think of the peple with dimensia! [23:18] 2 girls 1 cup should be illegal [23:18] thats horrible! [23:18] can you imagine if it were _your_ grandmother? [23:18] "Grammy!" [23:18] um, ew? [23:18] You'd be scarred for life. [23:18] gross [23:18] pretty much [23:18] let's change the subject [23:18] yeah [23:18] I agree [23:19] haha [23:19] I knew that would work [23:19] amateur hour ;P [23:19] brb [23:20] I have doom on here [23:20] haha [23:20] zdoom [23:21] k I dont really need the rest [23:21] I think I have like 300G free [23:21] fire|bird: that filefactory link work ok ? [23:21] Rackattack (n=eric@user-0c8h5mh.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [23:21] Rat409: yup, worked great. [23:21] cool [23:22] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [23:22] fire|bird, did you get my /msg? [23:22] yeah [23:22] I typed cat casenew [23:22] this was teh result: [23:22] Is there a way to install packages from the internet via the command line? [23:22] You sit [23:23] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:23] Rackattack: from were on the internet? [23:23] Not what I meant. [23:24] ok time to install slack 13 on my laptop, it might fail, it doesnt like dvd's [23:24] What is it when you install packages via kpackagekitand the like, using an internet connection? [23:24] *kpackagekit and [23:24] magic? [23:24] Rackattack: so you mean that you want an apt like structure? [23:25] yes. [23:25] Rackattack, slapt-get [23:25] and add extra respos [23:25] extra respos? [23:25] repositories [23:25] Rackattack: sbopkg to get slackbuild, slapt-get and swaret will pull precompiled from repos [23:26] no, you don't want to use slapt-get [23:26] google for a list [23:26] use slackpkg instead. [23:27] I don't think I have a choice XD It only found Slackpkg [23:27] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.186.123) joined ##slackware. [23:27] Rackattack: I use slackpkg for standard updates to my -current installation [23:27] I do have a question, when viewing binary files with say cat and such, what causes the terminal to break in a way that certain keycodes produce strange ascii symbols? [23:27] fatalnix: it outputs binary. [23:27] lol [23:28] fatalnix: type reset to fix it. [23:28] yes [23:28] oo [23:28] nice! [23:28] try "cat file | hexdump -C | less" [23:28] I should have known that a long tim agi [23:28] well the problem is there were some files I swore were plaintext [23:28] and ended up being binary lol [23:28] I used to have to type reset after dorks smudged my terminal with the write command [23:28] thanks though! [23:29] hexdump -C is great [23:29] I use it a lot [23:29] is that what its called? [23:29] smudging? [23:29] i just picked a word, it is not a technical term [23:29] ah [23:29] well it makes sense [23:30] finger paint and crayon mentality [23:31] l [23:32] cya guys later [23:32] fatalnix (n=bhodgins@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:32] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [23:33] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) joined ##slackware. [23:34] pi31415: easier to cat a file to whatever term you're on. ;P [23:34] surefire way to piss someone off [23:35] :) [23:35] it pissed my wife off when she sees that [23:35] mfillpot, http://pastebin.com/m769bb59e [23:35] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [23:35] never seen that before, I assume it's a 64bi issue? [23:36] maddslacker: yes it is, you didn't change the ARCH in the slackbuild file [23:36] D'oh [23:36] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-152-34-93.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [23:36] I really should have a beer when doing this...heh [23:37] how do uncomment a mirror for slackpkg? [23:37] maddslacker: that is the slackware way, a beer in hand means less mistakes [23:37] I see the mirrors, but I'm clueless =\ [23:37] Rackattack: with a text editor [23:37] Rackattack: remove the # from the line in a text editor [23:38] mfillpot, it really does help [23:38] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:39] maddslacker: as a database person I find that a couple beers in the system saves me from alot of mistakes and make me much more efficient, that is why I have been looking for a telecomuting job (so I can be more efficient) [23:39] fatalnix (n=bhodgins@173.45.238.209) joined ##slackware. [23:39] mfillpot, HEH [23:40] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:40] so im running the slack 13 dvd :) [23:40] I run a datacenter, unfortunately, ne beverages alowed :( [23:40] I sshed into my servers and irssi'd in [23:40] XD [23:40] mfillpot, got a new woek laptop, first run of slack64, I relly like it [23:41] *work [23:41] I have been told by my boss that he would prefer if I drank at work than if I smoked, I have been tempted to bring absynte to test that. [23:41] maddslacker: slack64 does bring some nice performance [23:41] maddslacker: you should not bring beverages, socs, dirt as possible or food, or loose clothing into datacenters [23:41] however do wear warmish clothing :) [23:42] some places run cooler than 60. [23:42] fatalnix, loose clothes are fine in this one, no line printers or anything like that [23:42] :) [23:43] maddslacker: did it build correctly? [23:43] mfillpot, doing the deps, but yeah, so far so good, thanks! [23:43] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [23:43] brb [23:43] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [23:44] why does the cdrom symbolic link bring me to /var/log/mount? [23:44] Besides RPMFusion, what would be some good repos? [23:44] on the install cd lol [23:44] fatalnix, weird [23:44] Rackattack, I like the official one [23:44] yeah [23:45] and I also get stuff from rworkman and alienBOB's private stashes [23:45] How are you defining official in this case? [23:45] Rackattack, one of the SLackware mirrors [23:45] also, slacky.eu is ok [23:45] Rackattack, are you planning on using RPMFusion repo for slack? [23:45] yes. [23:46] Rackattack: you can use linuxpackages.net, alienbob's repo, rworkman's repo, or many more [23:46] How do I do that again? >_> [23:46] those I download and install, as root, with installpkg [23:47] maddslacker and Rackattack, who are you talking to? [23:47] Rackattack, and you're trying to use slackpkg with RPMFusion? [23:47] whoever can answer my questions XD [23:48] blackula_ (n=blackula@97.81.105.128) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:48] Rackattack: what is the "that" that you are referring to? [23:48] Yes, if possible [23:48] mfillpot, I was answering Rackattack [23:48] err, trying to anyhow [23:48] heh [23:48] slackpkg works with RPMs? haha [23:48] mfillpot, supertuxkart is compiling now, after I done did it right [23:48] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [23:49] "that" is adding the RPMFusion repo [23:49] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) left irc: "Leaving" [23:49] Rackattack: lol [23:49] what is rpmfusion, exactly? [23:49] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [23:49] maddslacker, it's an RPM repository [23:49] yeah, that may not work out too well [23:49] Rackattack: why are you going to try to use a RPM repo for slackware? [23:49] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:49] CentSalck ftw [23:50] *CentSlack [23:50] Oh, wait... You're right >_< [23:50] I dont think I'll encrypt everything this time [23:50] it is my laptop but meh [23:50] *some* rpm's will install in slack rpm -i .rpm [23:50] but you're totally on your own [23:51] I highly recommend you don't install RPMs if at all possible. [23:51] yeah [23:51] (on Slackware, at least) [23:51] I actually prefer to compile from source [23:51] that's what I meant [23:51] Rackattack: they may build, but they may not work correct, have the correct flags or install in the correct locations [23:51] all of the above [23:51] its probably safer to use alien from a deb, and still I wouldnt recommend it myself [23:51] I prefer to compile from source as well [23:52] yeah [23:52] agreed [23:52] I have to admit though, Alien is really neat. [23:52] Rackattack, what's the real issue, what do you want to install [23:52] I use a slackbuild or make a slackbuild from a source tar, I wouldn't go with translating from another distro [23:52] Clex, mostly. [23:52] yeah, I used to use alien to convert from rpm to deb, that works really well [23:52] doesnt work so well from rpm to tg [23:52] tgz* [23:53] brb XD [23:53] nope [23:53] Rackattack: why don't you use the 12.2 slackbuild and change the arch? [23:53] mfillpot, supertux is installed, sweet [23:53] maddslacker: now you need to install the extras ;) [23:53] thanks for pointing out my silly oversight [23:54] mfillpot, of course...heh [23:54] wow! parted comes with the install cd [23:54] I've never used it [23:54] has for a long time? [23:54] I use fdisk so.. [23:54] I was surprised when MPlayer came with 13.0. I don't recall it being in previous releases. [23:54] heh [23:54] it wasnt [23:54] you had to compile it from source which worked but.. [23:54] it took a while [23:54] yeah, that surprised me too [23:55] or use alien bob's package [23:55] it gives xine a lot more libs to work with [23:55] and such [23:55] xine .. eww [23:56] for just a audio/video player mplayer has all the stuff for windows and mac beat all to hell [23:56] /win 1 [23:56] I use aaxine all the time [23:57] get yourself a huge framebuffer resolution, some 4*6 font and there you go [23:57] watch dvd's in ascii [23:58] crap [23:59] got 2 gigs of ram in this laptop.. [23:59] I dont use swap space though, but whatever [23:59] Kamel (n=1@68-242-58-32.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:59] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: "Leaving" [23:59] is swap space even necessary with huge amounts of ram? (that I don't even really use anyway) [00:00] --- Sun Sep 20 2009