[00:00] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:02] Does anyone know where the slackware logo images are located at ? [00:03] there is a bunch at Google's image search [00:03] newslacker, http://connie.slackware.com/~msimons/slackware/grfx/ [00:04] Was talking about the ones on the slack os. like the slackware logo or penguin that comes up on boot [00:05] newslacker: /boot/slack.bmp is the lilo boot image [00:05] Thanks [00:06] And thanks for the other images and stuff off the net as well [00:07] newslacker: another older site for wallpapers http://slackart.linuxpackages.net/ [00:07] Thanks [00:07] sharkzz (~sharkzz@96.31.87.230) joined ##slackware. [00:08] it seems like he wants to replace the slackware logo with his own [00:08] hello guys [00:08] can help me how to install teamviewer in slackware..? [00:09] which one need i choice file.. .rpm or tar.gz ? [00:09] arcaos (~arcaos@host-12-205-154.linksat.net.ar) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:09] sharkzz, To create "*.tgz" package, simply download "*.rpm" package and use "rpm2tgz" tool. It works fine :). [00:09] quote from http://gnu-linux-slackware.blogspot.com/2010/04/teamviewer-5-for-linux-beta-released.html [00:10] owh... [00:10] so i need to download .rpm file [00:10] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-190.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [00:11] If you don't want to build it, I guess so.. I dont see a Slackbuild either (for slackware's current version) [00:12] where is teamviewer, what is it, and so forth? [00:12] "With TeamViewer it is possible to control any remote computer as if you were sitting in front of it even through firewalls." [00:12] yea.. [00:12] phoenix^ (fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird/x-2893338) left ##slackware ("Laughing on the outside while you're dying on the inside."). [00:13] i install .rpm packages . [00:13] and then i download .rpm file teamviewer [00:13] then i extract rpm2targz [filename].rpm [00:13] test34, that true ? [00:13] it doesn't matter, seems they are all binaries, right? [00:14] is this thing closed source? [00:15] you can't install before you download sharkzz .... [00:15] mancha, maybe [00:15] so i need to download .rpm packages first or download .rpm file teamviewr? [00:16] Action: NaCl finally got KDe desktop effects to work [00:16] sounds just like somethign i want to install on my box, a closed source black box that allows someone to control the box over the inet :) [00:16] NaCl, ...nice. [00:16] but now the terminal won't go transparent [00:16] mancha, sound like a nice backdoor [00:16] yea... :) [00:17] no need to root [00:17] sharkzz, try and see [00:17] If you dont know the file name but you do know certain words or a sentence in the file is there a way to search the entire system for that string [00:17] me, I'm partial to the tightvnc & x11vnc combo. comes in handy [00:17] test34, alright :) [00:17] ssh with x11 forwarding [00:18] Nick change: dive -> capn|dive [00:18] Nick change: NaCl -> CaptainNaCl [00:19] Action: sharkzz to long want get KDE Desktop :( [00:20] Nick change: fire|bird -> Captain|Bird [00:21] dunno, i'd stay away from a closed source thing which control my boxen [00:21] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:22] Nick change: BP{k} -> CapnBP{k} [00:23] i agree; that just doesn't sound secure [00:24] Nick change: hitest -> BlackBeard|hites [00:25] Nick change: BlackBeard|hites -> CapnBlackBeard [00:25] true,alphageek...seen some nice uses of tightvnc with mips and arm archs [00:25] man, even the opening pitch on their webpage is whack: "You can remote control your partner's PC as if you were sitting right in front of it." [00:25] that's not good [00:25] Nick change: Captain|Bird -> CapnBird [00:26] Jedman (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/jedman) joined ##slackware. [00:26] Nick change: sharkzz -> CapTsharkzz [00:27] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-79.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:28] CapnBlackBeard (hitest@69.176.189.210) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:29] whoops*...meant to say pocketvnc and ultravnc [00:29] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:29] pocket pool? [00:31] meh..lance in the pants..:) [00:33] MASOKISME (~admin@161.142.224.66) joined ##slackware. [00:33] !seen dive [00:33] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:33] Is capn|dive = dive? [00:33] heheh [00:33] i thinks yea [00:34] capn|dive, please send me a pm, I would like to ask if you can review my resume when I revamp it. [00:34] for what rhisa ? [00:34] What for? What do you mean for what? We were talking about it earlier. [00:35] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-190.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:35] ops..~ [00:35] sory wrong channel :) [00:35] sama name risa [00:35] Nick change: rhisa -> risa [00:35] I'm risa. [00:36] lolz [00:36] Nick change: risa -> rhisa [00:37] lol..with the Capn prefixes,reminds me of what there doin' now http://dadsdish.blogspot.com/2010/08/retro-capn-crunch-box.html... wonder if it comes with a 2600hz whistle..:) [00:37] where risa .. :) [00:37] s/there/they're(Quaker) [00:38] MLanden, Yarrr http://www.talklikeapirate.com/ [00:39] CapnBird: lol...hear ya [00:40] Nick change: rhisa -> ninja|rhisa [00:40] test34, cd / ; tar zxvpf /home/dave/rpm-2.4.12-1.i386.tar.gz [00:40] i extract like this.. is correct > [00:44] is tomorrow "talk like a pirate day"? [00:44] or today, depending on timezone [00:45] guess so,shonudo....wonder if that makes Monday "Swear like a sailor" day..:) [00:46] well then, i guess i should join in: [00:46] Down with the RIAA! Down with the MPAA! Long live torrents! [00:46] How's that? [00:46] Bad. [00:46] hey, it's a stab at humor [00:47] arrrrrrrr [00:47] Bad. [00:47] You failed to mention a few more. >:( [00:47] anyone see the root privilege bug is back in the kernel? [00:47] jgeboski, how? [00:47] yeah, i was reading about that [00:47] hang on [00:48] Link please. [00:48] http://linux.slashdot.org/satory/10/09/18/2325240/Hole-In-Linux-Kernel-Provides-Root-Rights [00:49] Not found. [00:50] http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-Linux-kernel-provides-root-rights-1081317.html [00:50] try that [00:51] Oh phew! [00:51] On 32bit COMPATIBILITY mode. [00:51] I'm okay I think. [00:51] ninja|rhisa: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/09/18/2325240/Hole-In-Linux-Kernel-Provides-Root-Rights [00:51] i hit the 'a' key in there :p [00:52] eprod (~user@96-25-191-71.gar.clearwire-wmx.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:53] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [00:53] jafnhar (~jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [00:53] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [00:53] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:53] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [00:54] atomicpoet (~chris@Cindy-Wongs-AirPort-Express.wbb.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [00:54] Alright all, time for me to collect some sleep [00:54] take it east [00:55] s/east/easy [00:55] G'night. [00:55] cu jgeboski [00:55] night,jgeboski [00:55] see you guys/gals [00:56] Howdy! [00:58] heya,atomicpoet [01:00] How goes it? [01:00] aka ac1db1tch3z [01:01] Wait, what? [01:01] atomicpoet is the one who made the exploit? [01:01] MASOKISME (~admin@161.142.224.66) left irc: [01:02] Ha ha. What? [01:02] forget the exploit; i want to know how you can rhyme at the atomic level [01:03] That is a complex matter that involves protons and electrons. [01:03] Neutrons have nothing to do with it, though. [01:03] too bad; at least electron and neutron rhyme [01:11] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:13] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [01:17] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:21] TClayton (~tony@nc-69-69-213-8.dyn.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:23] TClayton (~tony@nc-69-69-213-8.dyn.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [01:26] edthix (~ed@115.133.247.147) joined ##slackware. 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[02:41] hello guys [02:41] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-32-95.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:41] where to i get rpm-2.4.12-1.i386.tar.gz [02:41] ? [02:41] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:42] from redhat [02:42] from redhat offical website? [02:42] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [02:43] How do you setup a torrent server/daemon for some linux distributions? [02:43] http://rpm.org/releases/historical/rpm-2.4.x/rpm-2.4.12.tar.gz [02:43] not sure why you have an i386 in your filename [02:44] yea [02:44] kleanchap torrent is p2p [02:44] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:44] or did you mean trackers? [02:45] yes [02:45] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [02:45] get bittorrent's tracker server [02:45] Note the section. I386. This means that it is a package program arsitektur biner for Intel, is ready to be demolished and carried out. Make sure you take a bundle in the name i386, if not following instructions will not work. [02:46] there's a program "bttrack.py" have it bind to the port you want [02:46] CapTsharkzz what did you smoke? [02:46] ? [02:47] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. [02:47] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:48] so long need to use teamviewer only.. [02:48] in slackware :( [02:48] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [02:48] jafnhar (~jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [02:48] what is your native language? [02:49] chinessse [02:49] klean, some version might use "bittorrent-tracker" [02:51] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:51] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [02:51] Nicce (~Nicke@178.72.14.88) joined ##slackware. [02:52] kleanchap: there are couple of torrent tracket setups. [02:53] i've been looking into OpenTracker myself. [02:53] bnbt, xbnbt, cbtt are others. [02:53] mancha, and netrixtardis : Thnx. I will check them out. [02:54] klean, iirc bittorrent-trackerbittorrent-tracker comes standard in slack [02:54] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_tracker_software [02:55] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:55] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [02:57] mujahid (~mujahid@189.120.128.196) joined ##slackware. [02:58] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:59] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [03:01] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:02] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [03:05] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:05] deco (~deco@adsl-71-129-38-162.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:05] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. 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[03:17] file does not end in .tgz, .tbz, .tlz, or .txz [03:17] well there you go. [03:17] hemm [03:17] orait [03:20] personally I would say to build wine from slackbuilds.org, as I have people report problems with the wine slackware package from winehq. [03:21] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [03:21] ok..thanks CapnBP{k} [03:21] :) [03:21] asarch (~asarch@187.132.134.195) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:24] CapnBP{k}: yarrrr i agree [03:24] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [03:29] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:30] pete` (~user@024.a.006.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:33] CapTsharkzz (~sharkzz@96.31.87.230) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:42] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.18.192) joined ##slackware. [03:43] atof (~jason@124.106.197.208) joined ##slackware. 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[04:11] I just finished watching Kickass. [04:11] Truly it is a kickass movie. [04:14] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:15] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.2, revision: 4740, sources date: 20100627, built on: 2010-08-08 18:29:00 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [04:15] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [04:20] Jedman (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/jedman) joined ##slackware. [04:24] willwork4foo (~willworkf@82.132.139.18) joined ##slackware. [04:25] willwork4foo (~willworkf@82.132.139.18) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:27] troy_ (~troy@dsl-69-172-120-163.acanac.net) joined ##slackware. [04:28] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [04:29] atof (jason@124.106.197.208) left ##slackware. [04:29] troy (~troy@dsl-69-172-104-125.acanac.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:31] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [04:48] delt0r___ (~delt0r@188-22-170-127.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [04:49] don't suppose there are any slackbuilds for netrek ? [04:49] fossala (~fossala@89.242.62.40) joined ##slackware. [04:50] Nope. [04:50] You can make your own. [04:51] rhisa: epic fail so far... (yea i tired ) [04:51] will keep trying i guess [04:51] I am on 64bit too so perhaps that cause issues [04:51] hey im looking at changing distro from arch (not stable enought). Im looking into slackware or freeBSD. I would prefer slack but i need a couple of questions answered before i install. The main one being if i download a program is there a way to update it if its not in the repos? And also If i cannot find a slack pakage for something how easy are they to make? [04:52] fossala, http://slackbuilds.org http://sbopkg.org [04:53] fossala: It really depends on details. For most things its fine. But if what you want to install is a "dependancy hell" type thing.. then well -unstable is about what you get--aka aptget etc [04:53] slack does not encourge dep hell... [04:53] and thats a good thing [04:54] My main thing is that if i install say awesome or scrotwm. would i have to go out to a website to get the source or a new slackbuild. or could i just run a command to update it? [04:57] > sbopkg < [04:57] fossala: I prefer to do the slackbuild thing myself. [04:57] I don't like "package managment" tools like aptget etc... [04:58] but its only a preference [04:59] troy__ (~troy@dsl-67-55-11-145.acanac.net) joined ##slackware. [04:59] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [05:00] so i couldnt just update my pc im one go i would have to search round for source? [05:00] fossala, SBOPKG man! [05:01] fossala: Sorry. I was trying to say i am the wrong person to ask... [05:01] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [05:01] troy_ (~troy@dsl-69-172-120-163.acanac.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:02] thanks for your help guys im just gonna jump in and see if its for me. hope it is im sick of distro hopping. [05:03] fossala: good luck [05:03] fossala, you're gonna like it, everyone likes to have slack ;-) [05:03] fossala: I tried many other distros... I keep coming back to slack [05:03] It just works [05:03] and you don't need a mac :D [05:06] n37wk3r (~unknown@unaffiliated/n37wk3r) joined ##slackware. [05:07] who needs a mac [05:07] anyway [05:07] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:07] lori_ (~lori@c-24-126-233-46.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:09] #nick=kosty [05:09] delt0r___, I'm tired too, sorry. [05:09] :-[ [05:09] haha [05:09] ermm [05:10] rhisa: lol [05:10] @Urchlay: jk here... [05:10] lori_: try "/nick kosty" [05:10] Nick change: lori_ -> kosty [05:10] thanx. [05:12] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:19] saTTY (~saTTY@218.248.80.51) joined ##slackware. [05:19] newslacker (~root@69-179-124-31.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [05:21] rafu (~rafu@92-227-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) joined ##slackware. [05:22] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [05:22] Mowah (~Mowah@c-3f85e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [05:27] jayne (maddhatt@freenode/staff/jayne) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [05:28] jayne (maddhatt@freenode/staff/jayne) joined ##slackware. [05:32] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [05:35] tomaw (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [05:36] Just burnt the cd. One last question before I install it. I want to do a minimal install so i dont get kde xfce and other things I dont want. What would be the best way for me to get scrotwm and install it? [05:36] kosty (~lori@c-24-126-233-46.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:36] if it's on slackbuilds.org, doing that [05:37] Is links on the dvd so i can get on the web before i have a graphical enviroment [05:37] yes [05:37] Good, Thanks raela. [05:38] fossala (~fossala@89.242.62.40) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [05:39] troy (~troy@66.49.154.133) joined ##slackware. [05:41] TClayton (~tony@nc-69-69-213-8.dyn.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:42] troy__ (~troy@dsl-67-55-11-145.acanac.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:43] TClayton (~tony@nc-69-69-213-8.dyn.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [05:44] tomaw (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) joined ##slackware. [05:45] tomaw (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:45] v4nelle (~van@79.107.198.113) joined ##slackware. [05:46] I'm trying to change my system clock with hwclock, is that what --systohc does? [05:46] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:46] saTTY (~saTTY@218.248.80.51) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:46] Reticenti: no. systohc writes the system clock to the BIOS clock [05:46] you can't SET your clock with hwclock [05:47] yeah, that's what I want to do [05:47] use date for that [05:47] i'm trying to get the correct time to show [05:47] urugami_eating (~AndChat@171.sub-97-197-53.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:47] jayne (maddhatt@freenode/staff/jayne) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [05:47] what is the current hardware clock ? [05:47] I have the los_angeles time zone linked to /etc/localtime [05:47] to check th current hardware clock do i use `hwclock --show`? [05:48] yes [05:49] # hwclock --show [05:49] tomaw (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) joined ##slackware. [05:49] Sun 19 Sep 2010 09:43:42 AM PDT -0.713487 seconds [05:49] jayne (maddhatt@freenode/staff/jayne) joined ##slackware. [05:49] it should be 02:45:42 [05:49] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [05:49] so it's 7 hours ahead [05:50] first, set the hwclock to UTC [05:50] `date` shows the same date as hwclock as well [05:50] then adjust your date [05:50] then write to the hwclock [05:50] Akuma (~Akuma@modemcable099.110-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:50] how do I change it to UTC? `hwclock --utc` ? [05:51] Jedman (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/jedman) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:51] why are you giving the correct answer given in man hwclock after every question ? [05:51] well, i do `hwclock --utc`, but when I do `hwclock --show` again, it still says PDT (pacific time) [05:52] Reticenti: could also try openrdate as an alternative http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/network/openrdate/ [05:52] Akuma (~Akuma@173.179.110.99) joined ##slackware. [05:53] Jedman (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/jedman) joined ##slackware. [05:53] rhisa (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) left irc: Quit: rhisa [05:54] Reticenti, have you also tried the "timeconfig" utility? [05:54] MLanden: how does that affect the hardware clock [05:55] adaptr: can sync the correct time from one of the time servers to system...rdate -s 'timeserver.org' [05:55] MLanden: system. not hardware clock [05:56] thanks MLanden trying that now [05:56] ananke: timeconfig still gives me +7 hours from what it should be, i tried both UTC and local time [05:56] Akuma (~Akuma@173.179.110.99) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [05:57] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:57] mehdim (59a50ca9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.165.12.169) joined ##slackware. [05:57] mehdim (59a50ca9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.165.12.169) left irc: Client Quit [05:57] dustybin (~dustybin@78-86-171-176.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:58] felipe (~felipe@my.nada.kth.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:58] mehdim (59a50ca9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.165.12.169) joined ##slackware. [05:58] there we go, rdate worked [05:59] adaptr: right...sorry,forgot that the two are different [05:59] where can i download ati opensource drivers(3.9B2+ 2.Ì+)? [05:59] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [05:59] but hwclock wasn't really his problem, as I suspected [05:59] mehdim: whatever that is, we don't speak it [05:59] where can i download ati opensource drivers(source code)? [06:00] also, I did crontab -e as root and now I can't get out :\ what editor is the default for root when editing crontab? [06:00] there is no default [06:00] ZZ worked, but what madness is that? [06:00] echo $EDITOR [06:00] it's empty :\ [06:00] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [06:00] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Changing host [06:00] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [06:00] adaptr ? [06:01] Reticenti: then it's probably vi [06:01] it's now, :w didn't do anything [06:01] not* [06:02] Reticenti: :q do anything? [06:02] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:02] err, thats what i meant [06:02] and no, :q doesnt do anything [06:02] dustybin (~dustybin@78-86-171-176.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:03] i even exported EDITOR to be vim, and it's not following my directions [06:03] where can i download ati opensource drivers(source code)? [06:03] mehdim: the internet? [06:04] Reticenti: crontab certainly uses vi on my system [06:04] i know internet but i don't know which site!doctor! 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[08:42] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:44] marto (~marto@84-252-0-171.2073344446.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [08:44] marto (~marto@84-252-0-171.2073344446.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Client Quit [08:46] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-169-182.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:46] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) joined ##slackware. [08:52] hi, what u use on your notebooks to show proc temperature? [08:53] conky usually [08:53] or the inxi-script [08:54] http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage/ [08:55] rSlacke (~cris@201.22.49.98.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:58] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-69-2.kotinet.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:59] rafu (~rafu@92-227-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:02] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [09:04] dustybin: makes you wonder over the prices [09:12] alienBOB: I thought Erik Hanson was you, sorry. But XGizzmo found the problem and its working. I needed to patch DevIL, now everything works [09:12] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:13] TClayton (~tony@nc-69-69-213-8.dyn.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:13] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-71-127.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [09:13] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:14] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.49.98.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:14] _marc` (~marc@port-92-195-108-104.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [09:15] How do I get the CPU and CPU socket information on a Slackware system? Also, I would like to know the type of memory modules on my system. [09:16] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [09:17] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-433350.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:17] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.94) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:19] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [09:24] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-119248.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:24] ivandi (~chatzilla@bas2-quebec03-1242485543.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:25] ivandi (~chatzilla@bas2-quebec03-1242485543.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [09:25] Cr1kk4 (~fabio@93-45-25-0.ip100.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [09:26] I am trying to install hwinfo from SBObuild and getting the following error messages. http://pastebin.ca/1944154 [09:27] conky start fast, or slowly? [09:28] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) joined ##slackware. [09:28] i have installed it from sb, now after run conky from console it freeze on drawing on window [09:29] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [09:30] it starts pretty quickly [09:30] and "freesze"? [09:30] estranho (~estranho@187.14.136.216) joined ##slackware. [09:30] estranho (~estranho@187.14.136.216) left irc: Changing host [09:30] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [09:30] tmkd: paste a copy of your .conkyrc file into pastebin.ca and post the link here [09:31] also, which WM are you using? KDE 4.4.5? [09:32] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [09:32] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [09:34] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-169-182.bur.connect.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:34] kleanchap: you pastebin, line 2: error: x86emu.h: No such file or directory ...... now look at the last line in the README from the hwinfo slackbuild [09:35] i am using kde, [09:36] jailbox, Thnx. I noticed that too. a little late. ;-) It is compiling fine now and it is doing some tests. [09:36] :) [09:40] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:42] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [09:43] ok conky works [09:43] but i do not see any temperature [09:43] ridout (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [09:44] tmkd: if you refuse to give us any useful information we cannot help you [09:45] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:45] ok sorry [09:45] where can i find .conkyrc? [09:45] i do not see it in my home catalog [09:45] ~/.conkyrc [09:45] hidden file [09:46] i dont have this file [09:47] ArianHT (~yaaic@unaffiliated/arianht) joined ##slackware. [09:48] ls -a ~/.conkyrc [09:48] :) [09:48] well thats why its not going to show you tempurature [09:49] you need to make your own .conkyrc file and put in there whatever you want it to display, the options are almost limitless [09:49] ohh [09:49] #c-ir [09:49] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:50] ArianHT (yaaic@unaffiliated/arianht) left ##slackware. [09:50] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [09:50] i believe conky has a room in freenode try #conky [09:51] conky.sf.net and get a default config [09:51] and work from there [09:52] that petabyte-for-cheap is deceiving. it surfaced last year, but they mention only costs of hardware [09:53] that's nothing when you take into account R&D, software design, etc [09:53] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:58] u (~u@92.27.65.70) joined ##slackware. [09:59] ckt1g3r (~ckt1g3r@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:59] Nick change: u -> Guest7267 [10:03] adrien: ok, some things works. but i will need spend some time with temp settings [10:03] i think that my system doesnot have lm_sensor or something like that [10:04] I think it does [10:04] you probably need to spend quite a lot of time on yuor config [10:04] hmm, ok [10:04] find examples, read them, find how they're working [10:05] troy (~troy@dsl-69-171-156-251.acanac.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:05] you mean, like...research ? noes! [10:05] troy (~troy@dsl-67-204-22-121.acanac.net) joined ##slackware. [10:06] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.252.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [10:06] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:07] Guest7267 (~u@92.27.65.70) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:08] it's ok, you end up stealing other people's config ;-) [10:08] http://pastebin.ca/1944175 [10:08] What socket does processor use? It is on my Vaio desktop. [10:10] I am thinking of getting a new mobo to avoid all the headaches of Sony bios. [10:11] gentood (~gentood@188.24.216.20) joined ##slackware. [10:11] a new mobo for a laptop? may not fit... [10:11] It is a desktop. [10:12] oh, oops. misread. sorry. [10:12] this is socket 478 then. [10:12] p4 northwood. [10:12] g3man (~wojciech@abnm77.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:13] can I do something to poor hardware acceleration in my intel i3 gpu? [10:13] or could be a prescott. /me is not sure :-/ [10:13] g3man, yes. upgrade to the latest xorg from rworkman. [10:14] slava_dp, excuse my ignorance. How did you determine it is socket 478? [10:14] :-) [10:15] kleanchap, first, I looked for the lm flag, which determines 64-bit support (Prescott thing). not found -> Northwood. [10:15] then I saw "x86-64" and I am not sure now. [10:15] gentood (gentood@188.24.216.20) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:15] :-) [10:15] Sorry I confused you now. [10:16] I used the lshw command and hwinfo but am not able to determine the socket. [10:16] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:16] slava_dp: thank u! i have all things newest (kernel, libdrm, mesa, xf86-video-intel except XORG :) [10:17] g3man, http://connie.slackware.com/~rworkman/xorg/ [10:17] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-79.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:17] kleanchap, got wine? run cpu-z, it will tell you for sure. [10:18] slava_dp: can download all files drom this directory: xorg/PACKAGES/i486/ and exec upgradepkg * [10:18] slava_dp, I will try that. I might have installed wine. [10:18] ? [10:18] john_dee (~id@95-29-14-234.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:18] from* [10:19] g3man, that's how it works, yes :) [10:19] ok so lets try the newest XORG [10:19] g3man, don't forget to read the accompanying text files, as usual :) [10:20] ok ;) i know [10:21] kleanchap, try dmidecode too. [10:21] slava_dp, I tried dmidecode and got this information "Socket Designation: J2E1" [10:22] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-71-127.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:23] what is nouveau? [10:23] driver [10:23] i don't have nvidia, so can i delete it from blacklist? [10:24] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [10:24] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [10:25] u_ (~u@92.27.65.70) joined ##slackware. [10:26] u_ (~u@92.27.65.70) left irc: Client Quit [10:26] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.235.106) joined ##slackware. [10:26] if only adamk were here [10:30] g3man (~wojciech@abnm77.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:31] g3man (~wojciech@aboi103.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:34] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [10:35] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [10:35] Nick change: XGizzmo -> BilgeRat [10:36] tmkd (~tomek@i14.rwd.prospect.pl) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:37] Watanuki (~naraku@96.45.180.106) joined ##slackware. [10:37] g3man (wojciech@aboi103.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [10:38] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [10:38] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [10:38] shonudo (user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [10:39] rworkman, thought about adding cairo to your xorg goodies? [10:41] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:42] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [10:42] crocket (1000@112.214.154.58) joined ##slackware. [10:42] I want to set a different fbsplash theme to each TTY. How can I do it? [10:43] I installed fbsplash in slackware64 13.1 [10:43] troy (~troy@dsl-67-204-22-121.acanac.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:43] troy (~troy@dsl-69-172-69-56.acanac.net) joined ##slackware. [10:43] crocket (1000@112.214.154.58) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:44] Nick change: hitest -> CapnBlackBeard [10:46] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.142.40) joined ##slackware. [10:46] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.142.40) left irc: Changing host [10:46] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [10:47] brianmichel (~brianmich@cet-nat.comcastcntr.pa.bo.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:50] ridout (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:51] i thought fbsplash only works on tty1 [10:51] padhu (~padhu@175.40.24.148) joined ##slackware. [10:56] do I run export make -j12 to force make to use j12 or whats the command? [10:57] IIRC it's "export MAKEFLAGS="-j12" [10:57] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [10:58] IIRC it's "export MAKEFLAGS='-j12'" [10:58] argh.. happy talk like a pirate day! [10:58] oh ya, makeflags [10:58] arrrr [10:58] thanks [10:58] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) left irc: Quit: And I can't put the needle in... [10:59] well shiver me timbers, Dominian. Swab the poop deck me mateys [11:00] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [11:01] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.227.252.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:02] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.6) joined ##slackware. [11:02] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [11:03] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.6) left irc: Client Quit [11:03] crocket (~crocket@112.214.154.58) joined ##slackware. [11:03] How can I set fbsplash themes for every TTY when I boot? [11:04] AARRRR! [11:04] executing fbcondecor_ctl fails when it's invoked in /etc/rc.d/rc.local. [11:04] crocket: I already said, I dont think its possible, someone was in here the other day asking the same question and the answer was, either you cannot, or no one here knows how or wants to hack it [11:05] maybe virtual terminals are not generated until I meet login program. [11:05] getty [11:05] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:06] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [11:06] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [11:07] g3man (~wojciech@aboi103.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:08] I have installed packages from rworkman but.. [11:08] in glxgears i have 60 fps and 3D acc don't works [11:10] g3man: what driver? [11:10] KaMii, Who's the other one? [11:11] Is there anyone other than me who used fbsplash in slackware? [11:11] CaptainNaCl: mesa [11:11] Nick change: CapnBlackBeard -> hitest [11:11] what X driver? [11:11] 2D driver? [11:11] xf86-video-intel [11:12] don't know anything about that [11:12] Nick change: edman007 -> CaptBlueTooth [11:12] g3man: YMMV with those packages, though [11:12] X works, but if I enable desktop effects in KDE crashes [11:12] YMMV? :) [11:12] Your mileage may vary [11:13] OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc [11:14] as it should [11:14] the driver may be buggy [11:14] arrrrr [11:15] g3man: 60fps in glxgears *exactly*? [11:15] g3man (wojciech@aboi103.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [11:16] oh, should have asked about the vsync [11:16] g3man (~wojciech@aboi103.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:16] < adrien> g3man: 60fps in glxgears *exactly*? [11:16] nachox (~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [11:16] CaptainNaCl: from 59 to 61 ;) [11:17] l4m3rx (~Slack@singularity.darknetx.eu) left irc: Quit: My damn controlling terminal disappeared! [11:17] Nick change: xovan -> CaptEmoticon [11:17] thanks CaptainNaCl to reply :) [11:17] yeah, it's vsync then [11:17] for [11:17] Nick change: ut -> SailorPeg [11:17] so what i should do? [11:17] How can I access virtual terminals in /etc/rc.d/rc.local? [11:18] and how do you know 3D acceleration doesn't work, [11:18] ? [11:19] just that it crashes or that it's slow [11:19] because KDE crashes when I enable desktop effects [11:19] dmesg? /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? [11:19] ok one moment [11:22] http://wklej.org/id/391015/ [11:23] anrxc (~anrxc@sysphere.org) joined ##slackware. [11:24] sounds like g3man may have missed something [11:24] i have done upgradepkg --reinstall * [11:24] for rworkman X packages [11:24] if I grab (huge)kernel config file from slackware-current, do a make oldconfig and compile a kernel on an ext3 system with IDE... I am guessing at this point no initrd should be made? [11:24] clean-system [11:25] so is this why you need to use slackbuilds instead of compiling things? [11:25] g3man, if you're using kde 4.5, it's known than effects for intel probably don't work [11:25] yes i have kde4.5 [11:25] ok so very thanks :) [11:25] kde guys blame x.org, x.org guys don't care / blaim kde, it's a funny pissing match [11:26] blame* [11:26] i have to wait for full GOOD supoport for my gpu... [11:26] Xorg is at fault for everything! D: < [11:26] But srsly though, is clean-system why making slackbuilds it be best? [11:26] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:26] yes, effects work on 4.4, break for 4.5 (x.org packages don't change in between), and they blame x.org :> [11:27] Edogaa: the ability to remove the package or upgrade it cleanly in general [11:27] ah [11:27] clean-system's just a subset of that [11:27] thrice`: tkank u [11:27] thank * :) [11:27] last thing [11:27] imroot (~imroot@201.86.172.223.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:28] g3man, sure :> sorry for the bad news; it's supposed to be better in 4.5.2 , but if it's not working perfectly, I wouldn't waste too much time trying to fix it :> [11:28] no, the full logs [11:28] u r X dev? [11:28] ok, thrice` probably knows better than me for that [11:29] Nick change: CaptBlueTooth -> edman007 [11:29] thrice`: are you X developer? [11:29] no :> [11:30] ok last questionbn [11:30] question [11:30] sorry i have cold hands :P [11:31] now KDE won't start's because effects are enables in config files. [11:31] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:31] i don't want to remove .kde [11:31] backup your ~/.kde folder delete it, try again [11:32] it isn't work, because effects are default enabled [11:32] ask in #kde where that config file is [11:32] ok :) [11:32] thanks KaMii [11:32] there might be some swtich to disable effects from the command line? [11:33] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Quit: shonudo [11:33] don't nuke .kde [11:34] the file is .kde/share/config/kwinrc [11:34] back it up, and try it fresh [11:34] CaptainNaCl: yes, thanks [11:35] on #kde sayd the same [11:35] g3man (wojciech@aboi103.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [11:35] cmdl1n3 (~cmdline@AMontsouris-159-1-55-139.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[11:43] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@host24-247-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Changing host [11:43] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) joined ##slackware. [11:43] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:44] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [11:44] imroot (~imroot@201.86.172.223.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:44] crocket, gettys are run from /etc/inittab. [11:45] ok [11:45] change getty calls to a script call that runs a getty + whatever you need. [11:45] or [11:45] ?? [11:46] false button press, disregard [11:46] shadowx (~slack@singularity.darknetx.eu) joined ##slackware. [11:46] troy (~troy@dsl-69-172-69-56.acanac.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:46] g3man (~wojciech@aboi103.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:48] slava_dp, ok [11:50] g3man (~wojciech@aboi103.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:51] slava_dp, do you know how /etc/init.d/fbcondecor initscript deals with that problem? [11:51] I have no idea. [11:52] linux + new hardware = ;-( [11:52] i have to wait for next stable release of slackware, maybe something will be better [11:52] g3man, you shouldn't have installed kde 4.5 ;-) [11:52] I have 4.4.4 and it works. [11:53] yes... [11:53] pick upgrades carefully :) [11:53] newest = better :) [11:53] not in all cases [11:53] i thought :) [11:53] lies. [11:54] g3man: what new hardware? [11:54] Now I am stuck with a remote stripped down slackware 12.2 install that doesn't have build tools, and I need to build latest openvpn for it :-( [11:55] intergrated graphics on intel i3 processor [11:55] slava_dp: probably many deps u will have to upgrade... [11:55] slava_dp: sdo install what you need? [11:56] nope. it will build fine, but I gotta make a local 12.2 VM for it.... [11:56] sdi (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sdi) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:56] CapnBP{k}, can't. the remote is on gprs, 7kbps speed. can't get the packages there. [11:56] g3man (wojciech@aboi103.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [11:57] sdi (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sdi) joined ##slackware. [11:58] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.134.134) joined ##slackware. [11:58] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.134.134) left irc: Changing host [11:58] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [12:04] slava_dp: linode or others? [12:04] and why not installpkg the build tools? [12:04] also, anyone using a laptop with TWO graphic cards/units? [12:04] (switchable graphics, vga switcheroo...) [12:05] adrien, I've mentioned it's on gprs, with 7mbps speed and per-megabyte charge. it's just a small server in a village near my city :-) [12:05] ah ;O [12:05] :P [12:06] slava_dp: I don't understand why you don't want to download 30 or 40MB of packages :P [12:06] haha :-) [12:06] slava_dp: sucks to be you then :) [12:06] CapnBP{k}, oh, that encourages =) [12:07] hahaha [12:07] padhu (~padhu@175.40.47.26) joined ##slackware. [12:07] I was a fool when I didn't do a full install what I deployed that one. thought I would never have to upgrade stuff. [12:07] xD [12:08] slava_dp, fbsplash-gentoo tarball had the solution. It was to execute openvt to generate a virtual terminal before executing fbcondecor_ctl for virtual terminals. [12:08] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:08] Now I execute openvt and then fbcondecor_ctl in /etc/rc.d/rc.local. [12:09] The day I submit fbsplash comes closer. [12:11] crocket, nice! [12:12] do submit it, I'll be a user. [12:12] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.175.83) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:13] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:14] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.225.5) joined ##slackware. [12:14] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. [12:15] mujahid (~mujahid@189.120.128.196) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:15] mujahid (~mujahid@189.120.128.196) joined ##slackware. [12:15] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:15] slava_dp, Is it a sarcasm? or do you really want it? [12:17] I was actually serious :-) I'd use it if a slackbuild was available. I'm just too lazy to create my own. [12:17] but you know how to install and configure splashutils? [12:19] nope, never done it. I looked into building it once, but didn't have enough inclination. so I'm still waiting for someone to get it to SBo :-) [12:20] i tried fbsplash from busybox (per the scripts on the LQ), but that looks miserable. [12:23] pireau (1000@208.92.18.100) joined ##slackware. [12:27] g3man (~wojciech@aboi103.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:28] cmdl1n3 (~cmdline@AMontsouris-159-1-55-139.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:28] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [12:29] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:29] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:29] CaptEmoticon (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:31] slava_dp, Give me the lnk [12:31] link [12:34] crocket, http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Slackware-Guides-Graphical_Boot [12:34] don't try it, it doesn't look very pretty. [12:34] zaltekk (~zaltekk@frog27.cs.clemson.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:35] without recompiling kernel? [12:36] josemanuel (~josemanue@204.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:37] g3man, if you mean the bootsplash, then sure, the modern ones are all userspace. [12:37] wow, good to know [12:38] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:38] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [12:39] you r right - 3D game works, but effects in kde 4.5 not. [12:39] its kde bug [12:39] Action: slava_dp blames kde 4.5 [12:39] what graphics environments do u use? [12:40] agentc0re (~agentc0re@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [12:43] mrcarrot (~lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) joined ##slackware. [12:46] jeev (~email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. 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[12:53] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:55] hmm [12:55] busybox is a linux distro [12:55] I don't know how to measure the boot process [12:56] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:58] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [12:59] Cr1kk4 (fabio@93-45-25-0.ip100.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [12:59] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [13:01] hobin (~hobin___@94.125.216.34) joined ##slackware. [13:05] How can I measure the boot process? [13:07] A tape measure? [13:08] no [13:08] boooootchaaaaarrrrrrrrr [13:08] v4nelle (~van@79.107.198.113) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:08] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:08] 't [13:08] I want to send information about the progress of the boot process to progress bar. [13:08] ah [13:09] I need to know where it is in the boot process. [13:09] What would be the reliable measure? [13:09] iirc, it's usually done with arbitrary "points" in the boot scripts [13:09] and as usual, they're all completely unreliable and imprecise [13:10] I've yet to see a non-trivial progress bar that properly reflect progress [13:10] usually, progress bars are "hi, process is not dead yet :-) " [13:11] If you know you have X things to do during boot, you can use that to make it accurate. But as part of the boot process... that's a lot harder to get right. [13:13] .... [13:14] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [13:15] if one required a nice simple set of GNU software what is booted from USB, would busybox be the best thing to use? [13:15] crocket (~crocket@112.214.154.58) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:15] rahulrp (~rahul@113.193.143.90) joined ##slackware. [13:16] mrcarrot (lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) left ##slackware. [13:17] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p579B45FA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:17] mujahid (~mujahid@189.120.128.196) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [13:17] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:18] depends on what you need :P [13:18] anybody using the latest nvidia drivers, 256.53 for eg, and has hibernate working good, with slackware-current, i cannot figure if it is problem with slack or nvidia drivers [13:18] mujahid (~mujahid@189.120.128.196) joined ##slackware. [13:18] hibernate worked fine before i upgraded to kde4.5.1 and nvidia drivers were older [13:19] also, busybox doesn't have most of the gnu extensions [13:19] rahulrp: not using them, but what is the problem exactly? [13:20] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:20] when i hibernate from running KDE, either by closing lid or clicking on the hibernate button, the system does not suspend to disk, neither does it shut off. i have to do a hard shutdown by pressing power button for 6secs [13:21] it doesn't _try_ to suspend? [13:22] no it does not "try" to suspend, cause i cannot see the lights going blinking orange as they did earlier. [13:23] mujahid (~mujahid@189.120.128.196) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [13:24] that sounds like a slackware problem but I can't say for sure, also, it's possible that this driver is "blacklisted" or whatever to prevent such hibernation, but I'm really not sure at all for that [13:25] kenneth (~kenneth@host-69-59-106-207.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [13:25] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:25] pinnen (~pinnen@h-45-2.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:25] Nick change: CaptainNaCl -> NaCl [13:26] kenneth (~kenneth@host-69-59-106-207.nctv.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:27] zaltekk (~zaltekk@host-69-59-106-207.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [13:27] maybe someone can help me with a quick vim question...what do you call the split window you get when you execute :help [13:27] and which module u think is blacklisted adrien [13:28] pinnen (pinnen@fet.nu) joined ##slackware. [13:28] i'm trying to read the help on it so that i can figure out how to resize the window and switch between it and the "normal" editor window [13:28] padhu (~padhu@175.40.47.26) left irc: Quit: Going to bed................ [13:28] hey alienBOB you awake [13:29] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [13:29] in the past nVidia (also ATI) drivers have caused problem when suspend/hibernate. At least before you could add some lines in xorg.conf for it to work more or less like it should [13:29] i have nvagp on for now linXea ... [13:30] Roin (~florian@p5B2BE52E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:31] echo -n mem > /sys/power/state if you do that, you get the same problem ? [13:33] i am on the same laptop which i am trying to hibernate, so dont be surprised if i get disconnected, i will come back to tell the story [13:33] at least that helped me back on slack 11 ... but then again, I mostly had that problem when X wasn't running.. anyways.. I think it's the drivers. Sorry, don't know much more since I never powerdown [13:34] A guess would be to look at /proc/sys/kernel/acpi_video_flags ... what to echo, I wouldn't know but someone else might have an idea [13:35] rahulrp: did you look at the quirks? [13:35] ok i did the echo -n > /sys/power/state, and my system did a suspend to ram, and now i have come back [13:35] so it worked ? [13:36] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:37] /proc/sys/kernel/acpi_video_flags content is "0", well it worked for suspend to ram linXea , do you think it should work for suspendtodisk as well? what about the quirks zaltekk , sorry i am a newbie [13:37] rafu (~rafu@92-227-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) joined ##slackware. [13:37] rahulrp: not that a _module_ is blacklisted but that some component see the nvidia driver and think it's not safe to hibernate, that'd be weird and that just a rough guess [13:38] rahulrp: Is lilo.conf configured with the correct resume device? [13:38] rahulrp: but if it worked, you changed the driver, did nothing else and it doesn't work anymore... [13:38] I am trying to install slackware to an LVM volume using qemu, such that I can boot it on real hardware later. I consider myself competent enough to be able to fix what needs changing after I have installed. Unfortunately, slackware refuses to install to (what it believes is) the entire disk, and requires me to make a partition table. Which of the following is likely to be easiest? 1.) make a partition table on t [13:38] he lv and somehow get rid of it later 2.) convince slackware to install to a full disk 3.) install slackware with something like debootstrap [13:39] I am currently on debian on an amd64 machine. [13:40] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [13:40] linXea (~Slackytux@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:40] yes i think it is a problem with the resume device it should have been sda3, it is sda4 is fstab, ... checking lilo... [13:41] I'm not used to lvm at all but when I did an install similar to that, I only had to change the lilo.conf, run lilo, set fstab [13:41] linXea (~Got@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:41] hm, bouncer died [13:41] adrien: was that to me? [13:42] yes [13:42] how did you get slackware to install? [13:42] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:43] on the real machine i did lvcreate and mkfs.ext3, and I run qemu with "-hda /dev/vg1/slackware-root", so slackware sees it as the entire disk and refuses to install to it until i make it a partition table [13:43] which, obviously, i don't want because it won't be the entire disk when in normal operation [13:44] oops, my lilo.conf has no resume device mentioned, should it be a global line like resume=/dev/sda3 or a line inside the section of linux ? [13:44] (vg1 is the volume group and slackware-root is the lv, in case that wasn't obvious) [13:44] it wasn't on lvm and I'm really not used to lvm but I don't think you should try to replicate 100% the environment: better edit config files by hand to match the computer [13:44] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB56B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:44] yes adrien that's what i intend to do but i can't get that far because slackware won't install [13:44] jamesstanley, may be this can help, i am not sure http://slackblogs.blogspot.com/2009/08/slackware-130-with-lvm-and-luks.html [13:44] thanks rahulrp u'll read it [13:44] *i'll [13:45] that was a bad typo, sorry [13:45] seems like a freudian slip, hehe [13:45] rahulrp: "First, we will insert Slackware 13.0 installation DVD into the DVD drive and reboot the laptop." I can't do this because I don't have a DVD burner [13:45] Which is why I am trying to do it in qemu [13:45] I would use a cd but there appears to be no 64-bit cd available [13:46] Action: rahulrp is totally unaware of qemu [13:46] have you heard of vmware? [13:46] it's basically the same idea, it emulates a machine [13:48] jamesstanley: you could download the mirror / needed packages and create a cd yourself. [13:49] I'd rather not have to make any CD's at all. I have a perfectly good debian install, and I'd like to put slackware on a separate LV [13:49] Surely I can do the install from within debian somehow? [13:50] CapnBP{k}: but this idea of downloading packages sounds good. Is it likely that I'll be able to download and untar the packages I need and get a working system, or does the installer do some magic that I will have trouble replicating? [13:50] i have just changed fstab and reliloed. i will be back after a reboot and then check, i hope it works now :) [13:51] jamesstanley: not that I can recall apart from running the instal/doinst.sh scripts from inside the package. [13:51] When I make LVM partitioning I cheat. I use the debian lenny cd and it's tools to create LVM volume + keys etc and then just install slackware instead [13:51] excellent [13:51] However you could try instaling pkgtools .. then tar/awk/grep then use installpkg -root directives ;) [13:51] exit [13:51] rahulrp (~rahul@113.193.143.90) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:51] CapnBP{k}: apologies for being a newbie, but do you know where to get slackware packages from? The slackware site suggests http://packages.slackware.it/ but that site doesn't seem to do anything. [13:51] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:51] http://alphageek.dyndns.org/linux/slackware-mirrors.shtml <-- take your pick :) [13:51] thanks [13:52] jamesstanley: why do you need slackware packages ? didn't you install the full DVD ? why not ? [13:52] i can not burn dvd's [13:52] on account of lacking a dvd burner [13:52] bummer [13:52] jamesstanley: personally speaking .. I would actually go with 13.1 instead of 13.0 .. the same principle really applies . it's just newer [13:52] you can use a usb flash drive [13:52] CapnBP{k}: i am going to, i quoted 13.0 off another site [13:53] at first i downloaded the 13.1 dvd iso and was trying to use that in qemu [13:54] linXea (~Got@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Quit: Lämnar [13:54] doesn't qemu let you specify the iso? [13:54] linXea (~Slackytux@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [13:54] it worked fine and booted, but like i said earlier i couldn't install it because slackware requires a partition to install to [13:55] so i would have a partition table inside my lv, instead of having the slackware stuff straight on the lv [13:55] and i would be extremely surprised if this worked as intended outside qemu :) [13:55] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:qemu [13:56] ??? i know what qemu is [13:56] but anyway i'm going to have a crack at installing packages manually and see how it goes [13:56] thanks for your help [13:57] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.49.98.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Read error: No route to host [13:57] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:58] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-246-71.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:58] dios_mio (net@88.243.98.202) joined ##slackware. [13:58] okay, not having used qemu that much, but as far as I understand you make an img file for qemu to us and install the operating system inside that image. [13:59] so any partitions that slakcware (or any operating system) would need to use will be inside the qemu *.img file. [13:59] yep and that link tells you exactly how to do it [13:59] i know all this [13:59] are you guys listening at all? [13:59] i am not trying to get it working inside qemu [13:59] i am trying to install it with qemu, and then run it on hardware [13:59] but anyway it's good [13:59] i'm going to manually install packages [14:00] rahulrp (~rahul@113.193.143.90) joined ##slackware. [14:00] hey linXea adrien guys thanks a lot, the suspend to disk works now [14:01] :) [14:02] g3man (~wojciech@aboi103.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:02] great :) [14:04] now i have a windows question also, and it is not the right place to ask, but if by chance you guys know the solution.... when i power off windows, the laptop does not actually turn off, i need to do the acpi method of 6seconds to switch it off, (i thought it was hardware error and remvoed ram, battery, gpucard and inserted again, but no improvement) [14:05] g3man (wojciech@aboi103.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left ##slackware. [14:05] rahulrp: many helpful peeps in ##windows [14:05] jamesstanley: heheheh [14:05] sorry for getting a little grumpy :) [14:05] i'm about as newbie as they come, but as far as i can remember, you can just change what /mnt points to before you kick off the installation proper. [14:05] from within the boot disk environment [14:06] i did mount the disk on /mnt before running "setup" but it complained that there was no partition table and wouldn't let me go any further [14:07] on an unrelated note, does anyone know what package i must install on debian to be able to extract slackware's txz packages? I assumed xz-utils would do the trick, but to no avail [14:07] i think the thing to do then, is to point qemu at whatever contains that lvm, and then make sure you've fiddled the right bits to not destroy something [14:07] Action: SailorPeg has booted windows in a vm inside slackware using virtualbox before, doing something similar [14:07] that would probably work but the idea frightens me [14:09] Ignore my question about debian package. xz-utils is what I need, but I need to explicitly tell tar that it is xz-compressed (it only seems to auto-detect for *.tar.xz) [14:09] leftuser (~z@94.139.235.208) joined ##slackware. [14:09] m0ney (~Paz@70.233.154.156) joined ##slackware. [14:09] josemanuel (~josemanue@204.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [14:10] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.44) joined ##slackware. [14:11] crocket (1000@112.214.154.58) joined ##slackware. [14:11] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:11] Shuffle,Repeat, and music icons are missing in rhythmbox. And what I see is http://imagebin.org/114771 [14:11] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [14:11] Why are those icons missing? [14:15] rhythmbox on slackware? [14:16] slava_dp: part of GSB. [14:16] isn't it running in kde in that image? [14:17] on kde* [14:17] in kde? [14:17] lol [14:17] mm-kay. [14:17] fine [14:17] why run that one? [14:18] Action: slava_dp imagines old ubuntu habits [14:19] GSB rhythmbox misses repeat and shuffle icons, so I compiled it myself [14:19] My own rhythmbox misses those same icons [14:20] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.2) joined ##slackware. [14:20] I don't like amarok [14:20] I'm looking for an alternative [14:20] have you seen "clementine"? [14:20] I like winamp library player the most, but it isn't available in linux. [14:20] (clementine music player) [14:20] no [14:20] crocket, audacious [14:20] Action: slava_dp whispers: DeaDBeeF [14:21] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:21] rahulrp, I like library player [14:21] slava_dp: I'm with you on DeaDBeeF [14:21] theres shitloads that dont need gnome [14:21] but then again you already have it [14:22] yeah, deadbeef is nice to, simply thought that clementine might be a better fit on kde ;-) [14:22] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [14:22] gtk is themable. [14:22] themeable, rather. [14:22] Anyway [14:22] might as well go for native ;-) [14:23] leftuser (~z@94.139.235.208) left irc: Quit: õÈÏÖÕ Ñ ÏÔ ×ÁÓ [14:23] I think [14:23] usmaan (~usmaan@180.214.232.17) joined ##slackware. [14:24] gtludwig (~gtl@189.26.138.227.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:24] I guess the version of gnome-icon-theme is too high or too low for the recent versions of rhythmbox. [14:24] With version changes, some file names change, and missing icons occur. [14:25] are you starting it from console? might write on stdout/stderr [14:25] and a big fat strace would give a definitive answer too [14:25] hmm [14:27] It doen'st give an answer [14:29] crocket, Deadbeef is my favorite, maybe want to check that one out. [14:32] crocket (1000@112.214.154.58) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:38] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:38] hi [14:39] anyone have issue with nfs on 2.6.35.4 ? [14:39] i can`t run nfs, got: kernel bug af fs/lockd/svc.c:347 [14:39] hello all [14:40] Prefect_ (Prefect@CPE0050ba42fad2-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [14:40] mac-: you're currently ranked pretty high on the vaguest error of the day: dmesg says nothing? [14:40] hi gtludwig [14:41] adrien: thanks ;p [14:41] =) [14:41] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:42] http://pastebin.com/KTVjFL6d [14:42] smth like that [14:44] you see, that's one thing I hate with google: http://www.google.co.uk/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&q=nfsd_last_thread+lockd_down&btnG=Search [14:44] see first link [14:45] strash (1000@vlan-176-sliven-91.comnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [14:45] well i need some help [14:45] what is it you hate about google? [14:45] yeah ,i hate it [14:45] LOL [14:46] adrien, googol is jet-powered. [14:46] so ,i changed the Sound control icon from my task bar in the right side of the task bar -how can i revert it ? [14:46] http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/6/16/303 [14:47] mac-: ^ [14:47] go down in the thread, you have 5 or 6 messages to read I think [14:47] strash: what do you mean by `changed` and what desktop environment are you using? [14:48] jgeboski i use KDE and i somehow moved the clock on the right side of the taskbar with all the stuff next to it [14:48] rhisa (~rhisa@ool-457ab193.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] rhisa (~rhisa@ool-457ab193.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Changing host [14:48] rhisa (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [14:50] gtludwig (~gtl@189.26.138.227.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:52] usmaan (~usmaan@180.214.232.17) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:52] strash: You'll have to wait for someone that know KDE. Alternatively you can hope in #kde [14:53] gtludwig (~gtl@189.26.138.227.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:54] bad [14:55] the problem is how did i do that ... [14:55] strash: clicked the little panel toolbox button in the corner? [14:55] how can I shut Akonadi down? [14:56] well i just messed it up even further [14:56] if i reboot without logging off -is there any chance to fix it ? [14:56] rahulrp (rahul@113.193.143.90) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:57] strash: if you delete ~/.kde that should make everything like new but, keep in mind you'll have to reconfigure what you've done [14:58] gtludwig shut it down or purge it permanently? [14:58] strash, have you tried unlocking widgets and moving things back? [14:59] from my expir... delete ~/.kde, reconfiguring will go faster than you think. [14:59] strash, also you could ctrl-alt-backspace to log off but I think those settings will be saved [15:01] mancha, shut it down, so it does not starts with kde [15:01] why not just removepkg it [15:01] that works too :) [15:02] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.235.106) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:03] this akonadi thing sounds like a real loser, seems like every day someone here's asking how to remove it [15:03] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:03] doesn't mean noone uses it though [15:03] ruben23 (~RLACUMBA@121.97.111.142) joined ##slackware. [15:03] well the guys in kde helped [15:04] mancha i think akonadi is not for everyone,i hope they add it in the next slack as optional software :) [15:04] strash heh [15:05] i asked how to remove it 2 weeks ago , only because it reported that it has some problems with my D-Bus.... [15:05] strash, some kde apps rely on it though (forget which) [15:05] felipe (~felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. [15:05] kontact? [15:05] yeah ,i guess so [15:06] but it never run at my Laptop [15:06] kontact will, a few others have been ported (konversation comes to mind?) [15:06] always reported some problem [15:06] er, kdepim in general will [15:07] kdepim -i never used such "alien" [15:07] i don't use kde (nor by extension akonadi). but when you see people asking "how cani get rid of akonadi [15:07] every day, you know something is up :) [15:07] gnome will get a similar tool soon [15:07] adrien: I don`t know what`s wrong with it, NFS are dead now .. [15:08] akonadi don`t work well -that`s why people get frustrated every time they log in when the akonadi reports that it can`t start ... [15:09] semantic desktop is the future of computing [15:09] anything that indexes documents can be nasty on a laptop [15:09] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:09] at least on the desktop [15:09] most people that have problems with akonadi are running as root. [15:09] really? :p [15:09] well i had problems with it even with my regular user [15:09] ditto. it's a hog regardless [15:09] rafu (~rafu@92-227-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:10] I'm glad to say that the info window doesn't pop up in 4.5.x [15:10] not for me anyway [15:10] you are a lucky guy [15:10] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:10] i just removed it [15:11] ok guys, have a nice evening [15:11] strash, running kde 4.4.x? [15:11] dn`t know [15:11] mac-: are all services properly started? [15:11] slack13.1 comes with ... ? [15:11] I'm sure there was a setting to turn it off in system settings [15:11] most people have it disabled or removed cause it's unneeded, as well as nepomuk and all semantic stuff. [15:11] not in mine KDE [15:11] strash, 13.1 uses 4.4.x [15:11] i read about nepoyuck [15:12] there was no option to stop it ,so i just removed it [15:12] and the nepo* ,i just stoped it (i think0 [15:12] yeah but the desktop search is easy to turn off [15:12] like, I want KDE goodies, but I dont' want semantic stuff or a mysql server that akonadi runs. so I disable them. [15:12] same [15:12] strash (1000@vlan-176-sliven-91.comnet.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:12] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [15:14] adrien: system starts up properly, only NFS got such bug report [15:17] mac-: so, do some _rpc_ services fail? which ones? [15:17] actually, rpc and nfs [15:18] Edogaa (~Animeking@adsl-233-212-173.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [15:19] jamesstanley (~james@cpc2-stav6-0-0-cust1435.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:19] mac-: tried starting things manually as mentionned on http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/6/17/95 ? [15:24] gtl_ (~gtl@187.112.65.57) joined ##slackware. [15:25] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [15:27] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [15:27] gtludwig (~gtl@189.26.138.227.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:27] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [15:28] gtl_ (~gtl@187.112.65.57) left irc: Client Quit [15:30] newyork (~newyork@p5DC93C49.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:31] is it possible for a bitlbee+irssi user to read away messages from icq-users? [15:32] |Slacker| (1000@189.117.39.26) joined ##slackware. [15:32] newyork: im unsure. can irc users join a channel with msn / icq users? [15:33] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:33] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@host77-247-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:33] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@host77-247-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Changing host [15:33] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) joined ##slackware. [15:33] yes, i use bitlbee for icq/msn protocol, so with my irssi i am able to chat with icq / msn users [15:34] Nick change: Gentian_Violent -> BadAtom [15:34] newyork: can other irc users join a converstation with a msn user? [15:35] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [15:36] hm i dont know, i guess not [15:36] do people still use ICQ i remember that from years back [15:37] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) left irc: Client Quit [15:37] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@host77-247-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:37] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@host77-247-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Changing host [15:37] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) joined ##slackware. [15:37] I still have an ICQ account but it gets spammed often so I turn it off now [15:40] I use icq extensively because it is very widespread here in west europe. although I have a jabber account too, I can only talk to my IT friends on jabber, everyone else is on ICQ. [15:41] icq used widespread in western europe? [15:41] eastern :P [15:41] for the h4x0rs [15:41] ah [15:41] I guess [15:42] east, west. I can't remember which is what. which one is Ukraine? :-) [15:42] lol [15:42] asia [15:42] hobin (~hobin___@94.125.216.34) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:42] mancha, wrong. [15:42] :( [15:43] africa? [15:43] ZokkeR (~phil@mue-88-130-111-049.dsl.tropolys.de) joined ##slackware. [15:43] toto ? [15:43] hey [15:43] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Europe_(orthographic_projection).svg [15:43] isn't ukraine right next to new zealand? [15:43] What?! [15:43] better http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Blank_map_of_Europe_(polar_stereographic_projection)_cropped.svg [15:43] New Zealand is not next to Ukraine! [15:43] can somebody help me with slackware 13.1 64bit burning? [15:43] right when you make a whole turn =) [15:44] ZokkeR: you need 2 32bits burners for that. [15:44] lulz [15:44] adrien: how should I start it ? [15:44] erm. [15:44] what? [15:44] CapnBP{k}, LOL [15:44] just execute rpc.portmap and rpc.statd ? [15:44] mac-: read the scripts and do the same by hand, slowly [15:44] I see that rpc.portmap has been started succesfully by rc.portmap at boot [15:44] or edit the script and add "sleep 1" after each process start [15:45] mancha, Ukraine used to be part of USSR [15:45] i just dont get how to boot from the .iso [15:45] rhisa i am going to complain to my geography teacher. [15:45] same with opensuse [15:45] close to Russia [15:45] ZokkeR: just messing. What exactly seems to be the problem? and most is explained in isolinux/README.TXT [15:45] Action: rhisa hands mancha a sword. [15:45] Here you'll need this. [15:45] nachox (~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:45] hm [15:45] i gonna check this out [15:45] for harakiri? [15:45] maybe someone like to tell me the best burning program on windows 7 [15:46] s/on/for/ [15:46] cdburnerxp always worked nicely for me on windows [15:46] brasero running in a linux vm [15:46] burn windows 7! [15:46] k [15:46] ty [15:46] ^^ [15:46] mancha, no, to fight off students before you reach the boss - your geo teacher. [15:46] ZokkeR: http://cdburnerxp.se/download.php [15:46] cdburnerxp++ [15:47] ZokkeR, nero should be able to burn a cd iso [15:47] most decent apps can [15:47] rhisa yeah i see ukraine is in eastern europe now, capital budapest. [15:47] o0 [15:47] im already downloading =) [15:47] btw [15:47] 0_0 [15:47] mancha, you drunk? [15:47] :| [15:48] budapest == hungary [15:48] is there any way to burn a smalslackware [15:48] on a cd [15:48] Yes [15:48] yeah, i am hungry! [15:48] ZokkeR: plenty of ways. [15:48] that i dont have to get dvd's? [15:48] ZokkeR, alienBOB has a netinstall ;) [15:48] See http://slackware.com/~alien/slackboot/mini/13.1/ [15:49] ty [15:49] Net-install mini ISOs for 32-bit and 64-bit Slackware [15:49] thanks! =) [15:51] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [15:51] adrien: ok, Iave got '/etc/rc.d/rc.nfsd: line 10: 1643 Segmentation fault /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd 8' [15:51] but this time it didnt hang up [15:53] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.44) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:53] ZokkeR (~phil@mue-88-130-111-049.dsl.tropolys.de) left irc: [15:55] mac-: I really don't know, I don't have troubles here and I'm running kernel 2.6.36 so else I'm simply not affected, or they've fixed it sinc [15:55] e [15:55] hm [15:55] 2.6.36 ? [15:56] if the messages on lkml weren't enough, maybe you can ask the guy who hit the problem by email [15:56] still rc [15:56] there is only 2.6.35.4 on kernel.org [15:56] uhm [15:56] thanks for your help anyway [15:56] :) [15:56] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-246-71.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:56] but asking the other slackware user is probably the best option: exact same config as you [15:56] =) [15:57] Edogaa (~kvirc@adsl-233-212-173.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:57] Yo, how do I detect esata and USB drives? [15:57] are you a rapper? [15:58] no. [15:58] oh i thought you might be. the first step towards an answer is a well-formed question [15:59] ah [15:59] lol [15:59] imroot (~imroot@201.86.172.223.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:59] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-207.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:00] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [16:01] huh [16:01] Quote #930209 is pending moderation. [16:01] Edogaa: my system "detects" those drives by plugging them in.... [16:01] I was trying to ask how do I detect an esata HDD :/ I recall using lsusb in some distros for detecting USB drives or other devices [16:01] 1. create a folder named 'foo', 2. run 'ln -s a foo', 3. admire [16:01] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-246-71.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:01] Ah [16:02] heh [16:02] never would have thought of the third step [16:02] lsusb doesn't detect squat, it merely prints the usb devices on screen. [16:02] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Client Quit [16:03] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [16:03] it's what is documented in 'man ln' but it... 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[16:16] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:17] Compiling wine and kvm-qemu, I just wish it was faster. [16:18] Like 5 seconds, all done. [16:18] question. [16:18] buy moar cores [16:18] x) [16:18] mancha, yes? [16:19] if you're already wishing for something quite impressive like compiling wine in 5 seconds, why not go the whole hog and ask for it in 1 second? or half a second? or 1 millisecond? [16:19] because it takes 5 seconds for the console to update with the output :) [16:19] mancha, x) see alisonken1home. [16:20] if you're wishing, wish for the console to update faster too [16:20] bah [16:20] I want the whole universe to reach its fixpoint in one second [16:20] bad, done [16:21] x) [16:22] mancha, I figured 5 seconds was reasonable and 1 second was not. [16:23] 5 seconds for qemu-kvm is actually doable [16:23] Really? [16:23] yup [16:23] How? D: [16:23] you're millionaire? [16:23] I have a Q6600. [16:23] Oh. 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[16:46] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [16:46] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:52] phrag: btw, there's no way I buy SC2, not something with such an EULA: never going to fund anything or anyone pushing such craps [16:52] ftr, it actually prevents your gf from playing SC2 [16:52] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.18) joined ##slackware. [16:53] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [16:54] newyork (~newyork@p5DC93C49.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:55] adrien: One of my friends was given SC2 by his wife. It keeps crashing. A lot. He's not very happy w/ Blizzard since his system meets the requirements and then some. [16:56] first time I hear about such problems, but the game is definitely overpriced [16:56] rhisa: kvm kicks butt, make sure you use virtio devices [16:56] Hm SC2 works perfectly fine on my system. [16:56] dustybin, virtio devices? Not sure what virtio is. :( [16:57] neonflux (~neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:57] "devices" made to work better with virtual machines [16:57] adrien: I think all new games are overpriced. Which is why I buy used [16:58] rhisa: here is a script i use what launches centos: http://codepad.org/h8ei3xTA [16:59] FriedBob: too bad this is definitely impossible with SC2 =) [16:59] adrien: I don't game on PC. 360 & Wii [17:00] Kentucky Fried Bob [17:00] dustybin: That's my cousin [17:00] heh [17:01] dustybin, awesome script. [17:01] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) joined ##slackware. [17:01] I can't believe I understood all that. [17:01] FriedBob, I have all three system. [17:01] rhisa: my virtual machines boot off a raw lvm, i dont use a file system like .cow [17:02] Hm... [17:03] you will need to setup a bridge [17:03] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:04] if you want your virtual machines to act like they are real boxes on your LAN [17:04] Action: alienBOB _really_ needs to finish his qemu-kvm article with bridging and using virtio [17:04] True but I don't need that now. [17:04] Quick! Everyone prod alienBOB! [17:04] v4nelle (~van@79.107.198.113) joined ##slackware. [17:04] Action: rhisa pokes alienBOB. [17:04] Action: dustybin prods [17:05] Stop abusing a fellow Bob. [17:05] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-207.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:05] The fun thing is to create an initrd containing the virtio drivers - and only then switch to using virtio [17:06] Also since /dev/sda changes to /dev/vda using virtio, you need to be prepared, and modify /etc/fstab and lilo.conf at the right time [17:06] guys i just burned my kitchen!!! [17:06] http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5296/dsc04663k.jpg [17:07] Ouch.... [17:07] Go clean up now. [17:08] ferdna: i can see jesus to the right :-S [17:08] ferdna: if that makes you feel better, a friend of mine almost set his house (and a whole building) on fire with a jar/pot of nutella [17:08] dustybin, nothing happened to it... [17:08] adrien, no it doesnt... [17:08] cr4ck (~unknown@189.31.165.186) joined ##slackware. [17:08] :( [17:09] Reticenti (~josiah@71-94-77-133.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com) left irc: Changing host [17:09] Reticenti (~josiah@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [17:09] nutella doesn't need to be cooked. WTH? [17:10] from the jar to your mouth! [17:10] alienBOB, is your qemu-kvm article on bridging/virtio for your blog? [17:10] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:10] he forgot it there and was wokened by the smell [17:10] adrien [17:11] NUTELLA [17:11] yumalicious [17:11] I definitely prefer mixing cocoa and sugar myself actually [17:11] neonflux (~neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:12] admboom: for my Wiki. The blog has barely enough syntax idiom to add commandline examples. A wiki is the correct place for such stuff [17:12] Nutella and peanut butter, one of my 5yo's fav [17:13] gtludwig (~gtl@187.112.65.57) joined ##slackware. [17:13] alienBOB, thats logical. I use qemu-kvm, i am going to have to play with that. [17:14] jaminja_ (~jaminja@95.211.4.12) joined ##slackware. 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[17:36] gtludwig (~gtl@187.112.65.57) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:38] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.227.246) joined ##slackware. [17:39] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-32-95.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:39] guys any suggestion, i have 1 T hdd and another 2 T hdd, now on installing the slack server i8 will setup LVM what would eb the best setup for this..? [17:40] setup what for what ? [17:40] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:46] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [17:46] i think hes looking for HDD partition setup [17:47] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [17:47] i think he needs some tip [17:48] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-166-185.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:52] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:53] _marc` (~marc@port-92-195-108-104.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Quit: _marc` [17:55] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.2.49.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:56] pupit:yes sorry its for a partition setup, some tip would be nice. [18:02] nachox (~Ignacio@242-196-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [18:02] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-177-51.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:02] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-119248.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:03] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:03] danc3 (danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left ##slackware ("Gone to do something useful!"). [18:04] ruben23: there is a lvm howto [18:04] ruben23: how do you use your computer? [18:04] ruben23: ftp://mirrors.dotsrc.org/slackware/slackware/README_LVM.TXT [18:04] games? multimedia? programming? surfing the web [18:05] KaMii: this will be used for an enterpise application for voip, do vocie recordings and backup [18:05] 1 tb for recordings, 1tb for backup, 1tb for everything else [18:06] like 3 logical volumes..? [18:06] and one volume group [18:07] oh man i have a 80gb hdd and i would easily figure out what to do with 3tb space... [18:10] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [18:10] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [18:11] pupit, dont want it... give it to me... [18:11] :D [18:12] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-166-185.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:13] i have a 40gb maxtor for you ferdna [18:13] pupit, awesome... i need laptop ide drives... 20 40 will do [18:14] it aint 2.5" [18:14] 3.5 [18:14] pupit, thanks for the offering [18:14] dont mention it, it has few bs [18:15] it has few bs? ( bull s***)? [18:15] hahaha [18:15] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.2.49.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:15] bad sectors=bs [18:16] f*ck too many computer jargon out there... [18:16] ferdna, I agree. [18:16] if we speak about hdds and mention bss its not bs as you think [18:17] mphaahhaah [18:17] pupit, but BS (as in bull s***) can be used with computers, cars, everything!!! [18:18] pupit, http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/BS [18:19] yeah, but in hard drives there is bs too as "bull s***" and bull crap is too big to stick with bs so i can say its fly s*** its small, and it can fit nice on it... [18:20] ferdna: this bs/fs conversation is over. [18:20] agreed. [18:21] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host81-159-254-106.range81-159.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [18:21] I have a 40gig 2.5" HDD but its got bad blocks [18:22] KaMii, do you know if those tools, that fix BS (Bad Sectors) work? [18:23] idk, acutally i never checked to see if its bad, it was in my friends laptop and she took it out and said it was bad and gave it to me [18:23] s/gave/threw it at me [18:24] ferdna: no. once bad, always bad. tried a lot of re-generators recently. even cache memory goes bad on them ;) [18:25] i see [18:25] KaMii, well if you dont want it... then ship it to me [18:25] :) [18:25] and you dont want hdd with Alzheimer's [18:25] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:25] it might be bad, it did go airborn and smash into the wall then hit the floor [18:25] she was pissed mad at it [18:27] but it was infected with a virus [18:27] .....windoze.... [18:29] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:30] no problem virus infection are nothing with linux [18:31] u missed the joke [18:32] no, no.... windows <- you calling this the virus [18:32] lol [18:32] but i am a man who doesnt joke... [18:32] lol... j/k [18:32] it is a joke [18:32] errr, it is a virus [18:32] just one people pay a lot of money for, then install themselves [18:34] hehehehehe [18:39] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [18:39] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:40] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-434822.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:45] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [18:45] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:45] artaud (~artaud@186.212.119.46) joined ##slackware. [18:45] artaud (~artaud@186.212.119.46) left irc: Changing host [18:45] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [18:46] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [18:46] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [18:46] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [18:46] artaud (~artaud@186.212.119.46) joined ##slackware. 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[19:16] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-98-118-76-6.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Changing host [19:16] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [19:18] cr4ck (~unknown@189.31.165.186) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:18] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:20] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [19:21] Anyone know how to create a dragon curve with C or perl? [19:22] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p579B45FA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:24] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [19:24] deco (deco@unaffiliated/deco) left ##slackware. [19:25] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [19:26] rhisa: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/DragonCurve.html that might be of some help [19:29] great ghost of st george! [19:30] jgeboski, true but.. [19:30] wyggler2 (mvlewis@pilot.trilug.org) joined ##slackware. [19:30] jgeboski: nice etch-a-sketch moment... thanks :) [19:30] haha [19:30] http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/C/node17.html [19:31] rhisa: are you you trying to draw this on a set of pixels or what? [19:32] I am trying to program in C or perl calculus problems. [19:32] Or hard math. [19:32] ah [19:32] Not just basic int $number; $number = 1 + 1; [19:32] And I've never seen that done. [19:33] are you just going to dump it as a raw bitmap or something? [19:33] cr4ck (~unknown@189.73.239.158) joined ##slackware. [19:35] shonudo: evening ;) [19:35] I'm.. gonna print it as characters. [19:35] Using * or something. [19:35] hey jgeboski, good evening to you too [19:37] budha (budha@ppp079166177093.dsl.hol.gr) left ##slackware. [19:40] delt0r___ (~delt0r@188-22-169-94.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [19:41] delt0r_ (~delt0r@188-22-162-245.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [19:47] cr4ck` (~unknown@189.31.165.48) joined ##slackware. [19:48] OpenOffice has a nice recovery system :) [19:49] cr4ck (~unknown@189.73.239.158) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:54] Nick change: CapnBP{k} -> BP{k} [19:55] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:57] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.24.215) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:59] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.29.212) joined ##slackware. [20:00] jgeboski: the document recovery? [20:00] Nick change: agentc0re -> CommodoreAgentc0 [20:00] Yes. [20:00] yeah, it is nice; it works [20:00] OOo crashed [20:00] Nick change: CommodoreAgentc0 -> CommodoreC0re [20:00] and it pulled up like nothing happened [20:00] yup [20:00] pretty slick [20:00] yes [20:00] i was going to have to do my work cited over if else :p [20:01] haha... that would have sucked [20:01] well just a bit of an inconvenience easybib.com is awesome :) [20:01] it saves all my sources right on the site so i can go back and copy at any time [20:02] Action: jgeboski loves when someone makes something really convenient [20:03] cr4ck` (~unknown@189.31.165.48) left irc: [20:06] ^kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A6BA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [20:07] Nick change: CaptainNaCl -> NaCl [20:09] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A8C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:10] bigpaws (~bigpaws@plns-66-33-241-135-pppoe.dsl.plns.epix.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:10] Nick change: rhisa -> ninja|rhisa [20:10] What is % operator called in programming? [20:11] ninja|rhisa: I believe the correct term is modulo [20:14] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:15] Nick change: CapnBird -> fire|bird [20:17] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:17] bogusjokes (~Doomguy@78-82-252-77.tn.glocalnet.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:19] how do i untar more than one tarred folder? [20:19] tar -zxvf *.tar.gz doesnt work [20:19] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [20:22] jgeboski, thank you. [20:23] someone would like to take a shot? [20:23] crashdata: for loop [20:24] Nick change: CommodoreC0re -> agentc0re [20:24] thanks [20:24] crashdata: something like this should work: for file in *.tar; do tar -xvf $file; done [20:25] Nick change: BilgeRat -> XGizzmo [20:26] hi, anyone with php knowledge? [20:26] Fatal error: Call to undefined function xmlrpc_encode_request() [20:26] thanks jgeboski i'll try that [20:27] slackware php doesnt seens to supports this, any tip how to fix this? [20:27] crashdata: rather: for file in *.tar*; do tar -xvf $file; done [20:27] yah i added .gz cool [20:28] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [20:28] higuita: take a look at: http://www.php.net/manual/en/xmlrpc.installation.php [20:28] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [20:28] Nick change: ^kleanchap -> kleanchap [20:30] how come when creating a small script like this i didnt have to put #!/bin/bash at the beginning? [20:31] crashdata: because you didn't create it as a file [20:31] i did [20:31] and made it executable and it worked [20:32] did you run it with ./filename or sh filename or bash filename? [20:33] ./filename [20:33] yht (~yht@118.96.121.225) joined ##slackware. [20:33] Nick change: capn|dive -> dive [20:33] i guess just because your shell is probably pointing bash or sh [20:34] briareus (~briareus@ip24-251-71-243.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:34] briareus (~briareus@ip24-251-71-243.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Changing host [20:34] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [20:34] i guess dot know if it matter but i was using terminal as my console [20:34] is it a big deal as long as it works? :p [20:36] no just wondering hahaha [20:36] :) thanks btww [20:36] btw* [20:39] thanks jgeboski [20:40] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:41] bigpaws (~bigpaws@plns-66-33-241-135-pppoe.dsl.plns.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [20:43] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.18) left irc: Quit: Quit Message [20:45] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [20:50] john_dee (~id@95-29-14-234.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [20:55] dios_mio (net@88.243.98.202) left irc: [20:58] Nick change: SailorPeg -> ut [20:59] How do I get sound to work in Slackware? [21:01] turn on alsa [21:05] or your speakers. [21:09] xchg (~xchg@94.229.33.133) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:09] xchg (~xchg@94.229.33.133) joined ##slackware. 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[22:43] Drakevr (~drakevr@ppp-94-66-184-82.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Changing host [22:43] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [22:48] What would you guys do with tons of spare pc parts? [22:50] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:51] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:51] ninja|rhisa: throw them away [22:51] :( [22:51] Just toss it in regular garbage? [22:52] Or... does it go in recycle? [22:52] if you can find electronic recycle place, then sure [22:52] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [22:53] BiCHiTo (Yposu4i2zw@bnc25.nggn.info) joined ##slackware. [22:53] ninja|rhisa: there must be a recycling center in your community [22:53] I never thought of that. Thank you. [22:53] Nick change: BiCHiTo -> Guest95858 [22:53] HOpefully they'll put it to good use. [22:54] are they good parts? [22:54] i assuming not since your say spare [22:54] ninja|rhisa: donate them to a local thrift store [22:55] tax deductable, and maybe somebody can actually use it. other than that, it's often too much of a pain to do anything else [22:55] more than hoping someone puts the stuff to good use is not tossing lead, mercury, whatever into a landfill [22:56] jgeboski, some are, some are not. [22:56] iirc salvation army thrift stores will take the stuff (they take monitors, dead or alive) [22:56] no, goodwill [22:56] it's goodwill stores [22:57] the jgeboski store takes anything decent :p [22:57] heh [22:57] i think i have a similar store, jgeboski [22:57] small world [22:57] lol [22:57] haha [22:57] Really? [22:58] You guys want parts like CDROM drives? [22:58] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.49.98.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:58] no thanks [22:58] working drives are always good to have around [22:58] that's a little outdated for me [22:58] Not hard drives though. [22:58] That's the thing. [22:58] it would cost more in shipping than the part is worth [22:58] indeed [22:59] one spare is sufficient. the rest would only collect dust [22:59] a cdrom is worth all of about $2 [22:59] shipping prices are ridiculous now a days [22:59] What about CDRW drive? [22:59] ninja|rhisa, that "might" be worth keeping [22:59] Okay what about floppy? Legacy for.. uh.. museum? [22:59] floppies! [23:00] frame that one! [23:00] hang it over your sofa! [23:00] Yeah floppy drives I mean. Not floppy disks. [23:00] That's a good idea btw. [23:00] i've got an old CPU framed [23:00] it's actually quite nice [23:00] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [23:00] great conversation piece [23:00] How do you frame something as big as an old cpu? [23:00] Those thing were like 4 inches back then. [23:01] btw, why does everyone always have to try to touch the art? [23:01] lol [23:01] ninja|rhisa: uhmm, look at any 8086/8088. they're tiny [23:01] Those are old, shonudo you have 8088/8086? [23:01] no, this is a toasted pII or something [23:01] lol [23:01] I think P2 were really big. [23:02] not 4" big [23:02] ninja|rhisa: they still weren't 4" [23:02] Then was it P1? Or p3? [23:02] Action: ananke can't think of a single cpu that's that big [23:02] i can't remember anything that big either [23:02] Pentium 3. [23:02] http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2003/02/17/benchmark_marathon/pentium_slot7.jpg [23:02] the chips have always been rather modest in size [23:02] I have that. [23:02] ninja|rhisa: wrong again. those are maybe 1.2-1.5" across [23:02] What?1 [23:03] About 1-1.5 inch high but like 4 inch across. [23:03] ninja|rhisa: take it apart. [23:03] it's not the size of your chip but how you use your bogomips [23:03] mancha, haha. [23:03] lmao [23:03] ninja|rhisa: you're looking at the case. open it up, you'll see [23:03] take the sink and other stuff off of it [23:03] it's not that big [23:03] ninja|rhisa: what you have there is a huge heat sink, fan, and slot, etc [23:04] ninja|rhisa: it's like a small board [23:05] Ah. [23:05] I'll open it later. [23:05] Gotta get rid of the drives first. [23:05] CD and CDRW, goodbye. [23:05] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-201.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:05] Hm you guys would keep the SCSI and old cables like that? [23:06] i'm a bit of a packrat with old stuff [23:06] i keep just about everything [23:06] Same. [23:06] But sometimes you're forced to remove it. [23:06] i keep stuff, but not at home. i have boxes of old junk at work :) [23:07] ananke, ouch would suck if work shut down and you can't gain access to them. [23:07] that's where i get to use it anyway, if i need it. just last week somebody needed a dot matrix printer, and i gave them one [23:07] ninja|rhisa: uhmm, what? [23:07] Okay I am throwing out the floppy drives too. [23:07] Action: ananke doesn't understand the problem [23:07] i still have a floppy drive on my main box [23:07] ananke, all the stuff you stored at work, you would not be able to bring it home if the business go out. [23:07] shonudo, I'm throwing allof mine out... [23:08] the "the floppy is dead" pronouncement was a bit premature, i think [23:08] ninja|rhisa: my work won't go out of business [23:08] floppies are still useful [23:08] I'll keep one then. [23:08] usb floppy drives are worth keeping [23:08] ananke, really? Is it your business? [23:08] ninja|rhisa: no. it's a state university. [23:09] if that goes out of business, the least of my worries is some old junk [23:09] Oh. [23:09] True. [23:09] Hm I have a power supply that's 480W, worth keeping?\ [23:09] sure [23:09] depends. what generation? [23:09] it's enough to power a box [23:09] Hm. [23:09] Not sure what you mean by what generation. [23:09] if you had a 250w, probably not [23:10] if it's an antique AT psu, then not worth it [23:10] It's really old, around 5 years. [23:10] It says ATX12V. [23:10] that's not "really old" [23:10] time for new poweer supply [23:10] Oh. [23:10] shonudo: i don't own any computers that need psu larger than 250W. thank god those days are over [23:10] linux_probe, we're talking spare PC parts. [23:10] 5 years in electronics is ancient :) [23:10] true, but a 450w power supply is still useful [23:11] shonudo: for what, heating up your house? :) [23:11] lol [23:11] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-201.dial.telus.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:11] well it's probably not usefull due to electrlytic capacitors drying ;) [23:11] seriously. i hope within 5 years none of my computers will need more than 50W [23:11] i was thinking of upgrading my toaster, ananke [23:12] I should keep a box full of wires. [23:12] Wires I might use like USB wires. [23:12] ninja|rhisa: those are 'cables' not 'wires' [23:12] These wires are all over the places. But it sucks how I accumulated so much stuff. [23:12] ananke, yep cable sorry. [23:12] and i'd toss the usb1 cables [23:12] and as of 5 years ago, there was tons of bad wonky capacitors put into everything [23:12] fairly worthless [23:13] USB1 would og then. Do the electronic recycling place take cables? [23:13] id suppose so [23:13] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:13] afterall it is wire and likely soldered connections(lead) within [23:14] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:15] Hm I have a cat5 that's incredibly long. [23:16] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-176.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:16] are you boasting, ninja|rhisa? [23:16] ;) [23:16] lol [23:18] How can I tell how old my USB cables are? [23:18] good question [23:18] i have no idea, ninja|rhisa [23:18] carbon dating [23:18] lmao [23:18] likely they'll state usb2.0 somewhere on them [23:18] nice, jgeboski [23:18] on the ends or cable itself [23:19] I still have ATA cables... [23:19] ATA100/133. [23:19] still useful if you ever decide to restore an older box [23:19] or repairing others [23:20] amazing at the technological advancements [23:20] jgeboski, isn't that the truth [23:20] yes [23:21] that and the price drops [23:21] like for storage [23:22] i wonder how far it will go before finally it can't go any faster or hold any more [23:22] who knows [23:22] i'm going to have to get a quantum computer :p [23:22] let me know when you have a 2T watch on your wrist [23:22] MarkT- (1000@S010600248c3ee38b.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:22] lol [23:23] i don't wear a watch, i use my phone hah [23:23] Action: linux_probe hooks a 2tb hd to watch band and glues watch ontop of it [23:23] Hm USB ports... [23:23] hows that =p [23:23] What does it mean when ldd shows that a binary is linked to two different versions of the same lib? [23:23] I wonder how useful is it on a 500W system. [23:23] lol... good enough, linux_probe [23:24] now tell me, can you raise your arm? [23:24] sure [23:24] infact you have to keep it raised, or it'll fall off =p [23:24] lol [23:25] Would you guys keep modems? [23:25] probably not [23:25] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:25] at least i wouldn't [23:25] CPU fans? [23:25] yes [23:25] MarkT it means fun times [23:26] pics or it didn't happen [23:26] ? [23:26] shonudo, why would you keep CPU fans? [23:26] This one is for like P2 or something. [23:26] mancha, are you talking about my modem? [23:26] i would; and i'd keep oddball heatsinks [23:27] But why? [23:27] because they make good business cardholders on your desk [23:27] :) [23:28] cryptonoia (~cryptonoi@ip72-205-14-129.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:28] and again, there's always the framing option [23:28] Hm. [23:28] like a paul klee magic squares thing [23:28] Action: MarkT- is confused. [23:28] MarkT-, so am i, but i'm not worried [23:28] I've even tried rebuilding that package and it still shows as linked to two versions of the same lib. [23:29] does the package work or error out? [23:29] no, when I run it I get the error Wrong JPEG library version: library is 80, caller expects 62 [23:30] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [23:30] pics or it didn't happen [23:30] using ldd on the binary shows libjpeg.so.8 => /usr/lib64/libjpeg.so.8 [23:30] and libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib64/libjpeg.so.62 [23:31] what binary? [23:31] ferreirathiago_ (~thiago@189.79.221.187) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [23:32] wxcam [23:32] why do you have two version of libjpeg on your box? [23:33] because they were both part of aaa_elflibs, I believe [23:33] You guys keep the boxes for your external hard drive? [23:33] are you certain? what slack version? [23:34] 13.1 [23:34] Yes... I've just double checked, they are both listed in that package. [23:34] ok so wxcam is getting confused by this [23:34] Lufbery_jaa (~Drew@pool-72-70-149-216.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:34] cryptonoia (~cryptonoi@ip72-205-14-129.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:35] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6B86F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [23:35] ninja|rhisa: cases for external drives are always worth keeping [23:35] I'm really not sure why they are both listed. [23:35] cryptonoia (~cryptonoi@ip72-205-14-129.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:36] you'll kick yourself going to the store paying $30 for an enclosure when you threw one out [23:36] presumably some kind of internal backwards compat, seems sort of sloppy though [23:36] hmmm.... trying something here.... brb. [23:36] MarkT- (1000@S010600248c3ee38b.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:37] goj (~goj@p5488F344.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [23:37] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [23:40] shonudo, I meant the box... the um.. brown box, not the encasement of the internal hard drive. [23:40] brown box? [23:40] Yeah.. [23:40] is there an airplane attached to this at some point? [23:40] lol Yes. [23:40] no, that's a blackbox [23:40] nevermind [23:41] x) [23:41] what's a brown box, ninja|rhisa ? [23:41] you mean a chassis part? [23:41] like from a case? [23:41] Nope. [23:41] Don't worry I'll figure it out. [23:41] What about the Cisco 2500 series? SHould I throw out? [23:42] Lufbery_jaa (~Drew@pool-72-70-149-216.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:42] no, i'm too curious now... what's a brown box? [23:42] lol [23:42] i want a brown box! [23:43] o.o [23:43] This box - http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/detail-page/wdfMyBook_Essential2.0_1U.jpg [23:44] thats a green box! [23:45] i also want a green box... [23:45] for those of you who are color blind and see a blue box, mancha is right [23:45] it's green [23:46] ninja|rhisa, if you didn't destroy that thing extracting the drive, keep it [23:46] looks yellow [23:46] =p [23:46] lol [23:46] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.49.98.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:46] x) [23:46] I said brown because the inside is brown. [23:46] And you can use it for shipping stuff. [23:46] ???? [23:46] And it's empty, that's what i"m looking at now. [23:46] okay, so is there any other quirk we need to know about? [23:47] so the box the external shipped in [23:47] because i don't know all the possible colors inside a HDD [23:47] sounds like garbage can filler [23:47] cardboard brown? [23:47] then again, keep it for when you have to warranty ship the failed drive back :) [23:47] dude, if it is, i'm leaving [23:47] ninja|rhisa: this isn't about the shipping carton, is it? [23:48] he meant the actual box the drive came in, lol [23:48] lmao [23:48] Action: linux_probe slaps [23:48] lol Yeah. [23:49] so how do you distinguish between drives, GPUs, CPUs, etc that all ship in brown boxes? [23:49] Action: jgeboski facepalms [23:49] i always buy esata/usb cases and add my own hd's [23:49] or are they all "brown boxes" to you? [23:50] do you see a number in this? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Colorblind5.png [23:50] there isnt a number [23:50] :O [23:50] no, but i do see a butterfly and an elephant [23:50] does this mean i hate my parents? [23:51] lolol [23:51] that pic hurts my eyes ._. [23:51] linux_probe: maybe this NSFW pic will fix that... [23:52] I'm very exhausted. [23:52] So much moving. [23:52] My back aches and I just torn my pants. [23:52] THis is bad. [23:52] haha [23:52] i was 30 minutes into an 8hopur job once and tore my pants [23:52] and i mean major blowout [23:53] what type of blow out? [23:53] we're in tmi territory... [23:53] this is going to get ugly [23:53] well the whole things ripped from front to back [23:53] haha [23:53] i had to use duct-tape [23:53] lmao [23:53] too far to drive after more clothes [23:53] no stores nearby [23:54] oh your pants just ripped i thought it was a bit more to it [23:54] well, i was squatted down working [23:54] `blow out` can mean many things :p [23:54] when they let go it made a loud RIIPpp [23:54] and squatting down can mean many things [23:55] i just heard a loud rip but it wasn't my pants [23:55] it was a newly developed area so, lots of new homes people waling around [23:55] lost me on that one... what is "waling around"? [23:55] walking** [23:55] you cannot reado fluent typo ehh [23:55] lmao [23:57] according to wikipedia if you can't see a number in that png i posted, you have tritanopia [23:57] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.49.98.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:57] mancha, is that a serious condition? [23:57] or we have poor quality over VNC session =p [23:58] mancha: is the number 56? [23:58] yes [23:58] yes, 56 [23:58] whew [23:59] true-green i cannot see [23:59] too bad the number wasn't 42 [23:59] that would explain everything [23:59] it also says the image might not be viewable on lcd [00:00] --- Mon Sep 20 2010