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[00:16] nah, it's just in a bitchy mood [00:16] laptop is 2 years old [00:16] lol [00:17] the "mood" thing cracked me up [00:17] laptop is named naenia (as seen in pastebin), but I usually resort to calling it fickle bitch. you should see the shitfits we get into over wireless [00:17] and yes, I totally have put a personality onto my laptop [00:18] raela: lol....think a lot of people do(well...in the linux community,that is) [00:18] jennifur (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Don't follow me [00:19] I always just assumed it was cause I was a sentimental girl.. then again, I've been told to take my other laptop behind the barn and shoot it, so maybe not :P [00:19] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [00:19] Don't shoot laptops. Donate them. [00:20] or at least recycle them [00:20] sahko, correctly. [00:20] Which is hard, they all seem to end up in china;s rivers. [00:20] raela: what about a laser cleaner disc? [00:21] MLanden: could look into it. will see what happens tomorrow morning with it [00:21] byteframe: I still use the thing constantly. the screen has its special issues [00:21] That's good. [00:22] I got a really broken laptop, don't know what to do with it, after I cut HDD, RAM, and WIFI. [00:23] raela, you've posted images of your screen, i think... [00:23] it is "special" [00:23] What brand lapptopp? [00:24] i'm trying to figure out how to responsibly dispose of a 21" trinitron crt... [00:24] i'm thinking a 3am drive and drop [00:24] shonudo, is it working? [00:24] byteframe, no... it finally died [00:24] blew the cap in it [00:24] very loud [00:24] and colorful [00:24] Hmm. never tried to give away a _broken_ crt on craigslist. [00:25] all kidding aside, that crt was like crack; i was addicted [00:25] i knew that having a 60lb monkey on my desktop wasn't good [00:25] but the resolution and image quality was beautiful [00:26] I found 2 (could only grab 1) 17inch trinitrons outside a museum. All rained on, but it worked! [00:26] ok not to be rude, but everytime I start talking about stuff non linux, I am either told to shut up.... [00:26] trinitrons are spectacular monitors [00:26] you'll be hard pressed to find better [00:26] or i get kicked [00:26] but man, the size [00:26] this isnt a social irc room [00:27] KaMii, perhaps earlier, others were looking for support. [00:27] read the topic and Channel Guidelines byteframe [00:28] But I can't read. [00:28] but you do type well [00:28] shonudo: indeed I have :) [00:28] raela, yeah, with that wild burnout section [00:31] that you seem to be okay with [00:32] i believe you said you "work around it" [00:32] :) [00:33] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [00:33] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware. [00:34] shonudo: yup.. arrange the windows intelligently, and read around the lines :D [00:35] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [00:35] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [00:36] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.233.214) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:38] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:39] Does any package provide ndbm.h? I'm trying to compile nmh from SlackBuilds, but am getting a configure error saying "could not find a working ndbm library/header combination" [00:39] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[01:05] rirombo: good to hear [01:05] I'm still looking for a decent PDF viewer, since xpdf just doesn't cut it. [01:05] and it sounds like you're working out a problme [01:05] problem* [01:05] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:06] rirombo, evince [01:06] There be a slackbuild for it. [01:06] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [01:06] we be speaking pirate? [01:06] motaro (~ricardori@190.166.112.215) left irc: Quit: motaro [01:07] Yarr. [01:07] aye [01:07] byteframe: Do you remember if it requires many GNOME dependencies? [01:07] motaro (~ricardori@190.166.112.215) joined ##slackware. [01:07] For shiver me timbers! [01:07] It's quite light. There's even a windows port, and slackbuilds.org doesn't list any deps. [01:07] there's a slackbuild for shivering timbers, btw [01:08] no evince doesnt have gnome dependencies, but dont use newer versions, at least yet [01:08] projectchild (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-fboarxqldszvigdf) left ##slackware. [01:08] use the version on slackbuilds.org [01:08] I see, thanks! [01:09] Yeah, the windows port and sbo are at 2.28, but gsb ships 2.30, so the newer version might be heavier. [01:09] it needs some gnome stuff to work reliably [01:10] where can I see about KMS enable ? [01:10] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:10] AbsTradELic, what video card? [01:10] radeon 4300 [01:11] You have to enable KMS for ati expclitly. Didn't see to work well on an x1600 mobility. Should be/is sorted for next slack version. [01:12] howto ? [01:12] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [01:14] AbsTradELic, radeon.modeset=1 [01:14] byteframe: ati radeon 4200 [01:14] Good Luck. [01:15] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.100.166) joined ##slackware. [01:17] byteframe: X;) [01:17] tnks [01:17] AbsTradELic, http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI#Kernel_mode-setting_.28KMS.29 [01:17] Is this perchance to get dual-head to work? [01:17] am0rphis (~qwe@79.124.136.95) left irc: Quit: am0rphis [01:20] dualhead works without it, but it's supposed to help with other things like console framebuffer switching (ctl-alt-f#) [01:22] masterslakk (~mastersla@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:22] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:22] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) joined ##slackware. [01:23] Nick change: bunnyboi -> jennifur [01:23] I was told the KMS stuff would help with dualhead. Not really sure, but I had to end up with a small xorg.conf that specified the "Virtual" size of the two screens. [01:23] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [01:25] byteframe: can I use it with catalist ? [01:25] No? [01:26] Never used proprietary ati driver, I'm afraid. [01:26] ok [01:27] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.100.166) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [01:29] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:31] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: Quit: .. [01:32] All right, well, it's bedtime. Have a good one, everyone! [01:33] rirombo (~rirombo@h113.187.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:34] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.30.50) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:35] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [01:35] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.30.50) joined ##slackware. [01:36] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [01:42] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:43] troy (~troy@dsl-67-204-0-35.acanac.net) left irc: Read error: No route to host [01:43] troy (~troy@dsl-67-204-0-35.acanac.net) joined ##slackware. [01:44] stormtracknole (~stormtrac@adsl-072-148-017-155.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [01:44] how would be a script for remove all files from a directory less those whose ends whith .txt ? [01:44] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:46] troy (~troy@dsl-67-204-0-35.acanac.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:46] troy (~troy@dsl-67-204-0-35.acanac.net) joined ##slackware. [01:47] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:47] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:47] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [01:47] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [01:47] arenics: a glob like !(*.txt) will match all files whose name doesn't end in ".txt" [01:48] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: stupid poeple run the world, I have a theory on that... 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[02:25] vim [02:28] troy_ (~troy@dsl-67-204-0-35.acanac.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [02:29] "good" is relative - need to see what each one does and how it would fit into what you want a cms to do [02:30] very true, its just like choosing a WM, there are many flavors, and all are good, just which one is good for you? [02:30] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-110.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:31] i suggest try them all, see which one you like, then go with it [02:34] Nick change: Yandertal -> odeiaxp [02:35] and how about bulletin boards? [02:36] john_dee (~id@93-81-141-122.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:36] bbs? [02:36] isnt that like 1980s? [02:37] [gopher for life] [02:39] bijit: I think they call them "forums" now :) [02:39] especially if you're thinking the online web type [02:40] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. [02:40] ty alisonken1lap, those [02:40] linuxquestions is always a good place to start [02:40] An Internet forum, or message board :P [02:41] ty KaMii [02:41] the next question is are you using a web host? if yes, then what do they provide/allow? [02:41] lol [02:41] i just found a bottle of rum hidden behind our CEO's desk [02:42] lol...the boss's stash? [02:42] otherwise, if you're hosting on your own server, check the repos and also see if you want a php-based, python-base, or perl-based forum software [02:42] share with me [02:42] we have our own host, collocation in Florida [02:43] ok - then check with your techies and see what kind of setup they have. my guess would be you'd want to look at a web-based apache/php setup with mysql backend [02:43] possibly postgresql backend [02:44] alisonken1lap: any recomendation? I was trying punbb [02:44] you can start by looking at what they use on linuxquestions [02:44] see if that's the kind of setup you want [02:44] keep in mind, you also might want to see how well the software will scale for use [02:45] iow - how heavy will it get hit - not just on a daily basis, but an intermittent slashdot effect [02:45] its just for intranet 50+ [02:45] ok - that helps to simplify [02:46] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:46] not making recommendations, but you can have a look at http://www.phpbb.com/ [02:47] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [02:48] I was looking @ nuke-evolution but i think I read it was made php 3.x [02:49] ffelix (phelix@ditto.arpa.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:57] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.73.185) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:58] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.73.185) joined ##slackware. [03:02] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:02] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [03:03] cristianmanuel (~quassel@host33.190-30-82.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:04] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-139-070.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [03:11] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [03:11] how can i mount my installed slackware from the dvd so I can reinstall lilo? [03:12] mkdir somedir; mount /dev/sdX somedir [03:12] that means, create a mount point for it (any directory) and then mount the correct partition on it [03:12] gbonvehi: yea, but don't i have to chroot, also there was this bind -o thing afaik [03:13] why would you chroot? [03:13] well you can boot with the CD, and tell the kernel to boot your install [03:13] just tell lilo to read the config from where your partition is mounted [03:14] gniks solutions is easier :) [03:14] another option is to actually boot the entire setup CD and bind /proc /sys and then chroot your install [03:14] s/bind/bind mount/ [03:14] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:15] samfisher: as gniks suggested, giving root=/dev/sdXX argument during cd's lilo prompt will probably be easier [03:15] gniks: yea, that was i was thinking about but also helped me booting the installed kernel using the cd [03:16] yeah [03:16] if you ever try and use lvm on your install, you will get very familiar with bind mounts and chroot ;) [03:16] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [03:16] gh0 (~gh0@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:17] actually, I'm installing slack 13.1 inside virtualbox, so I can customize it and then to move it on a USB flash drive [03:17] to have a live OS [03:17] that works too [03:18] but still to do a lvm config on / with slackare, that is what i was referring to :) [03:18] ok. thanks [03:18] honestly its a bitch ;) [03:19] why? [03:20] gotta get lvm just right, and bind mount it, and then install, and then chroot and complete the setup, and it doesn't always work :P [03:21] what could I do else, then? [03:21] korg815 (~korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [03:21] LVM is just an option way to manage volumes :p [03:21] its not required [03:21] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:22] so i'll leave it. [03:22] yeah [03:23] also, it would be better if I could maintain fat32 on the thumbdrive. is that possible? [03:24] i don't believe you can boot with it, but im probably wrong on that [03:24] i however would not recommend it as fat32 is not a journaled file system [03:24] and you will get a corrupt install extremely quickly [03:25] that's why slax gets fubar-ed [03:25] this slackware based mini-distro runs on fat32 but u can use it about 3 times and if you don't shut down correctly you have to reinstall [03:26] yeah pretty much [03:26] :) [03:27] dunno what else to do. i also have some win portable apps that i'd like to include on the drive [03:28] gh0 (~gh0@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:29] ut (~toast@97-84-219-70.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [03:30] partition it [03:30] make the linux part ext3/4 and the rest fat32 [03:30] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-1-103.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:30] linux can read fat [03:31] andrew_46 (andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) left ##slackware. 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[03:45] y0 [03:45] morning all o/ [03:47] <_RadioHead> yo alisonken1lap :) [03:47] y0 _RadioHead [03:49] I installed 13.1 with fluxbox, but when I try to start apps, i.e pidgin nothing happens [03:50] try to start in terminal and report the error [03:51] No, it started but with like a 30 seconds delay [03:52] ok [03:53] samfisher: thats pretty strange. [03:54] samfisher: 1st run of pidgin? [03:54] Liquidyes [03:54] yes, sorry [03:54] ive installed 13.1 base (minimal install) then added x folder, alsa and some xapp's, all worked great [03:54] some apps run immediatly, but konsole didn't fired up in the past 5 minutes [03:56] Liquidsnake: i installed almost everything except K, KDE, KDEI, Y and D. can i strip it down, uninstalling pakages? [03:56] thats pretty ok so, i have probably less pkgs than you. [03:57] cause i did not installed the xapp's [03:58] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [03:58] and all apps that i have installed are workin with no delay. [03:58] yea, but i'd like to make it even minimalistic, removing some N packets [03:58] you said that pidgin lags on start? [03:58] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-63-4.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:58] netcat, you dont need that [03:58] nmap [03:58] too [03:59] look closer in [03:59] and remove them [04:00] ZMR_ (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [04:00] ZMR_ (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Client Quit [04:00] subversion [04:00] mysql [04:00] and a lot of progs [04:00] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) joined ##slackware. [04:01] Liquidsnake: yea, it lags. some apps won't even fire [04:01] have checked if /etc/hosts is correct ? [04:02] and resolv.conf ? [04:02] it is [04:02] weird ... [04:02] mmm [04:03] some programs still require lo (local network interface never to see the light of day outside the box) in order to run [04:03] X is a good one for that [04:03] daniel_s (~daniel_s@188-194-153-115-dynip.superkabel.de) joined ##slackware. [04:03] some other programs as well [04:04] samfisher: you said you didn't install the dev packages..D ? [04:04] ZMR_ (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [04:05] ZMR_ (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Client Quit [04:05] yes [04:05] but it should work [04:06] sbs` (~sbs`@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [04:06] at least on 13.0 and earlier worked w/o D [04:13] what WM should I run on a pentium3 with 64 MB of ram? Fluxbox? Blackbox? [04:14] nice 64MB [04:14] bijit_ (~chatzilla@201.199.157.186) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:14] twm will run on 16MB [04:14] windowmaker is light too [04:14] :P [04:15] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-206.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[05:34] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:39] Slackware64 13.1 with multilib just installed. Google earth shows a splash, then a crash ;). Any known solutions? [05:41] for me on 32 google shows a splash, loads the app, but then doesnt draw the earth [05:41] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-123-198.kotinet.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:42] Aldaron: does it segfault? [05:43] MLanden: I see "Google Earth has caught signal 11." when I start it from konsole, but no segfault text (not sure) [05:45] masterslakk (~mastersla@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [05:45] Okay, might be that Google Earth is just broken [05:45] hey, can anyone help me compile some source code? [05:46] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:46] poona (poona@unaffiliated/poona) left ##slackware. [05:46] can google earth be run through gdb? [05:46] masterslakk (~mastersla@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:46] masterk (~masterk@99.30.144.105) joined ##slackware. [05:47] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:47] MLanden: sure but you're not going to get anything useful [05:47] hold on.. Maybe I just forgot 32dev.sh [05:47] going to be slllooooowwwwwww [05:47] latest googleearth on 32bit 13.1 works great here [05:47] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) left ##slackware. [05:48] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-18-131.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:49] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [05:49] bitlord: wasn't there some glitches with the previous builds of gogle earth and the radeon driver? can't recal which one [05:49] s/gogle/google [05:49] MLanden, no radeon here, I have nvidia card [05:50] Aldaron: which graphic card? [05:50] here 5.2.1.1329 (beta) version of googleearth, I think it's latest, works great [05:51] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.52.40.static.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [05:51] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a7/Debian-package-cycle.png :O [05:52] MLanden: nvidia something, proprietary driver. 9800GT iirc [05:52] wtf [05:52] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-193.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:52] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [05:53] Aldaron: ok [05:53] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.26.13) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:54] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.24.145) joined ##slackware. [05:55] llug (testname@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) joined ##slackware. [05:55] llug (testname@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) left ##slackware. [05:56] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430770.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [05:57] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430770.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[07:07] anavel (~shandy@118.136.212.178) left irc: Changing host [07:07] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [07:07] gull (testname@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) left ##slackware. [07:07] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [07:07] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) joined ##slackware. [07:09] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [07:09] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware. [07:10] Necrosporus_ (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [07:10] hello [07:10] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Disconnected by services [07:10] Nick change: Necrosporus_ -> Necrosporus [07:10] it isn possible to add a patch to a package from sbopkg ? [07:12] not directly that I know of, but you may want to try #sbopkg and see if one of the devs can answer you [07:12] thx [07:13] gezley (~gezley@86-42-210-43-dynamic.b-ras1.cld.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:13] I'd say: get it manually [07:14] nooper (nooper@unaffiliated/nooper) left ##slackware. [07:15] Tsooi (~scruffy@ti0125a380-0156.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [07:18] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.52.40.static.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:19] masterk (~masterk@99.30.144.105) left irc: Quit: masterk [07:19] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-uujiracfsrfdofqw) joined ##slackware. [07:19] shell-lord (~shell-lor@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [07:26] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:27] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:28] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [07:34] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [07:36] nachox (~Ignacio@9-99-235-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [07:37] put the patch in the sbopkg cache dir and then modify the slackbuild from within sbopkg [07:37] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.41.171) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:41] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-20-227.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:43] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-148.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:43] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [07:45] can someone tell me, how the patch is applied, some diagram? [07:45] >.< [07:45] come on Zordrak, its not a stupid question.. :) [07:46] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:46] cant find a thing about patch stuff on google.. [07:46] what diagram, ???? [07:46] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:47] it doesnt have to be a diagram, just how patching works, in steps [07:47] pupit: http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+apply+patches+to+source+code [07:47] pupit, in what part of patching are you interested? [07:48] bitlord: definitely not in writing it, for now, just to understand the lines in patch and what they do to source [07:49] Zordrak: thanks :) [07:49] Emeau (emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-76-86.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [07:49] pupit: lines with a "+" are added, lines with a "-" are deleted. To change a line, the old is "-" and the new is "+" [07:49] all surrounded in markers to which line numbers need to be changedh [07:50] ncrypthic (~ncrypthic@118.96.11.122) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [07:50] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [07:52] and the software which is written to patch has an algorithm to deal with those + and - ? [07:52] I'm running ktorrent 3. Will upgrading to ktorrent 4, in -current, work without problems? That is a major version number change. [07:52] that question makes no sense [07:53] pupit: no real algorythm involved - "@, remove lines marked as "-" and add lines marked with "+"" [07:53] patch will patch according to patch files :-) [07:55] Emeau (emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-76-86.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:56] alisonken1lap, adrien, Zordrak thanks :) [07:57] pupit: the fun part is when you have a unified diff - that patches multiple files :) [07:58] nachox (~Ignacio@9-99-235-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [07:58] alisonken1lap: i dont want that much fun for now :D [08:00] i thought that making patch is more complicated but its ok, understandable lines. [08:02] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:03] jhell_ (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. [08:05] Nick change: odeiaxp -> _Lucifer [08:06] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:07] jhell (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:07] Nick change: jhell_ -> jhell [08:10] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.248.49) joined ##slackware. [08:10] okay i'm fed up of trying to get wine to work correctly so i'm re-installing winxp. is it normal that the xp CD won't bootup over a linux HD? [08:12] stu_, you must set in BIOS to boot from CD [08:12] stu_: ever heard of virtualisation? [08:13] install XP to a virtual machine [08:13] bitlord, the thing boots, etc. but says 'windows detected harddrive errors' or something, and asks me to run chkdsk /f [08:13] stu_, that is something else [08:13] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-174-41.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:13] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [08:13] Zordrak, haven't tried it. is it vmware by any chance [08:15] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [08:16] stu_, here win xp home, working great in vbox, I using it for school stuff and my PIC projects [08:16] how could i boot off a USB thumbdrive on a computer that has no USB boot options in BIOS? [08:16] stu_: use virtualbox instead [08:17] samfisher, you need this --> http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagerdl.html [08:17] stu_, one cool thing, no need for reboot [08:18] samfisher, you could use pxe and boot off the lan [08:19] Skywise: no lan there. [08:19] can you boot a floppy? [08:20] does virtualbox need extra resources? cos i wanna run some heavy games [08:20] stu_: VirtualBox [08:20] stu_: I wouldn't run games in a vm. [08:20] stu_, no games in vbox :( [08:20] damn [08:21] stu_, wine? [08:21] actually you can. with the experimental direct3d rendering [08:21] but it's suicidal [08:21] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [08:21] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [08:21] stu_, play linux native games :D [08:24] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:25] Oh, crap, I think my external harddrive just died on me. :) [08:25] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:26] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) joined ##slackware. [08:26] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) left irc: Client Quit [08:26] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:27] Oops, wrong chat. [08:28] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [08:29] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC44F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: brb [08:32] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:34] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC44F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[09:08] heh [09:09] we had to edit /etc/pbbuttonsd.conf [09:09] and put TPMode=notap [09:09] that was it [09:09] no hal, no xorg.conf [09:09] yeah, hal didn't apply to 12.1 [09:10] as for that file, I had never heard about it [09:10] nice to hear you got it sorted [09:10] ya... it only took 8 hours [09:10] so from what i have read, its impossible to get skype on slackingosh? [09:10] :P [09:11] i dont really understand why, since slackintosh is basicly slackware on ppc [09:12] KaMii: skype is pre-compiled forc i386 [09:12] slackintosh is not i386 [09:13] KaMii: because skype is proprietary that they only provide windows and linux binary for - linux on x86 computers, not ppc computers [09:13] blame skype [09:13] yup [09:13] oh ok [09:13] it's like flash [09:13] well they do also have a binary for mac, but ya, it wont port unless you get the source then [09:13] meh, i use skype mostly on my psp anyway [09:14] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.248.49) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:14] not for mac: for mac os x [09:14] on intel I guess [09:15] no i had skype on OS X PPC [09:15] skype is built for PSP, OS X, Linux, Windoze, Android, iPhone [09:16] so i thought, well since they are making it for everyone.. why not let me do it for PPC linux [09:16] I don't think they have made linux ppc versions, there aren't many people using that combination [09:16] I guess they could put binaries for that quite easily however [09:17] whats going on is someone pinging me big time? xchat is hogging my CPU 100% [09:17] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:17] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:18] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.30.50) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:19] what's the correct way to summon/talk to the ##slackware channel operators ? [09:19] talk here [09:19] you can also light a candle [09:20] black candles, rag dolls, a rooster, a piece of charcoal and lemons [09:20] sacrificing virgins used to be the way [09:21] Rathre hard to find these days :-) [09:21] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.30.50) joined ##slackware. [09:21] we could ask raela if shes up to it [09:21] bah, no killing me [09:21] that was so weird [09:21] ikonia, why do you need a chanop? [09:22] the dialog command was eating my CPU [09:23] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [09:23] Hi there [09:25] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:25] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [09:25] Is qt4 in slackware 13.1 built against openssl? [09:26] quassel uses openssl via Qt, and "strace quasselclient |& grep -i -e ssl" emits those messages, http://www.pastebin.org/408306. [09:26] hi crocket [09:26] hi [09:27] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-251.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:27] quasselclient fails to recognize the chain of certificates while openssl itself succeeds in doing it. Please see http://imagebin.ca/view/uwT6CZx.html. [09:27] pen("/lib64/libssl.so.0.9.8", O_RDONLY) = 15 [09:27] o [09:27] yeah [09:27] so it's fine [09:27] But http://imagebin.ca/view/uwT6CZx.html [09:27] While ZNC recognizes the chain of certificates fine, quasselclient doesn't. [09:27] crocket: that's setting, and for freenode or for another irc network? [09:27] ? [09:28] adrien : Can you be more clear? [09:29] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.54) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:29] it works with certificate chains, you need to check which certificates are "ok'ed" in your current configuration [09:29] by default, slackware doesn't set any [09:29] hmm? [09:29] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) joined ##slackware. [09:30] I've installed symlinks in the hashed name of certificates in /etc/ssl/certs, and ZNC recognizes CA certs in /etc/ssl/certs via openssl. [09:31] Qt's openssl doesn't seem to do since quasselclient uses openssl via Qt and I see http://imagebin.ca/view/uwT6CZx.html. [09:31] It's obvious that openssl via Qt doesn't look up in /etc/ssl/certs. [09:36] Zaythan (~zaythan@ip68-1-71-150.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: [09:37] gull (testname@92-55-242-8.net.pbthawe.eu) joined ##slackware. [09:39] wobbles (huntsman@C-61-68-174-41.bur.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:40] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:41] tsonev (~tsonev@unaffiliated/tsonev) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:42] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [09:54] damn this firefox gtk lag [09:55] sick to death of it... is it just on slackware or anyone heard of it on other distro's? [09:55] Since we are talking SSL, is there an easy way to use inetd and openSSL to listen for incoming TLS connections on port 995 and connect to a script? [09:55] if it continues, i may have to switch distro's at work... which i *really* dont want to do [09:56] FF works fine on my boxes [09:56] firefox 4.0pre is much better [09:56] yeh, i'ts random and a known issue [09:56] Did you try Opera? It runs nicely on Slack [09:56] seems to happen often on this hardware though, as least with me [09:56] groo (~groo@201-92-217-211.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:56] groo (~groo@201-92-217-211.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [09:57] i seem to recall having the same gtk lag issue [09:58] sahko: got link for the source? i couldnt find it the other day [09:58] 32bit? [09:58] 64.. but i can run 32bit [09:59] nightly has packages for both arch's built. so you can just untar it in home and use it [09:59] http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/ thats what i use [09:59] stu_ (~stuartSan@175.144.248.49) joined ##slackware. [09:59] I need you guys to seed the Slack 13.1 iso torrents so I can get them downloaded.... [10:00] gief seedbox and i will [10:00] arfon: they're seeded quite well [10:00] my 30kb/s upload isnt going to make much difference [10:00] Action: arfon is stuck at 0kbs download :( [10:00] i'd fix your torrent client then [10:01] you got some ports blocked or something, slack iso's are well seeded imho [10:01] Action: arfon hits rtorrent on the side [10:01] No, it was zipping along at ~66kbs each then, dropped to 0 [10:01] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:02] Eh, it will restart [10:02] http://dev.slackware.it/getslack/mirrors.php is broke btw [10:02] Action: arfon wishes he could torrent off his company's OC192... drool! [10:03] Action: phrag could =P [10:03] could get fired also [10:03] get usenet, it's the shiz bom dizzle [10:03] yeh, same =P [10:03] Action: arfon searches gopher [10:04] Action: Skywise hits on veronica [10:04] Slack's gotta be on gopher somewhere [10:04] arfon: ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.1-iso/ [10:04] =) [10:05] TY phrag, but, I don't want drunk images [10:05] :) [10:05] Nick change: troy__ -> troy [10:05] nick theives *grmbl* [10:06] thats why theres nickserv [10:06] I just used nickserv to reclaim my nick [10:06] there ya go, problem solved [10:06] hell, I've had this nick registered for something like 10 years, and used it for three years before that [10:07] I just gave the torrents a kick, they are going again [10:07] for my first years on irc, there were so few people on OPN that I didn't need to register :/ [10:07] Phrag, that 30kbs seed your doing is GREAT! [10:07] well i'm sure theres more then one troy around the net [10:07] err OPN==openprojects.net, later freenode [10:07] arfon: sorry? [10:07] (I'm messing with ya) [10:08] OpenSSL, Inetd, TLS? [10:08] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:08] fidesratio (~fidesrati@bender.open-source.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [10:09] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:10] fidesratio (~fidesrati@bender.open-source.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:10] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [10:11] <--started on Dalnet [10:12] <--was on blackdown.org [10:12] <--never heard of blackdown.org [10:13] cause yer young [10:13] Oh yeah? Compuserv BABY! [10:13] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:13] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [10:13] Compuserv + TRS-80 = WIN [10:14] v4nelle (~v4nelle@78-48-76.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:14] hi [10:14] Hi V4 [10:15] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:15] guys i upgrade my kde to 4.4.5 and ow when i login into kde i get an empty white scren....why? [10:16] Action: arfon uses XFCE [10:16] v4nelle, you tried to remove old config? ~/.kde? maybe something else [10:17] bitlord, i make a new-user ,and nothing [10:17] v4nelle: what Slackware are you running, and what packages did you use for the upgrade? [10:17] alienBOB, slackware -current [10:17] and i do upgrade-all [10:18] and i use the new kdmrc [10:18] hersonls (~hersonls@189.43.141.102) joined ##slackware. [10:18] BiCHiTo (Yposu4i2zw@bnc25.nggn.info) joined ##slackware. [10:18] BiCHiTo (Yposu4i2zw@bnc25.nggn.info) left irc: Changing host [10:18] BiCHiTo (Yposu4i2zw@unaffiliated/bichito) joined ##slackware. [10:18] you moved /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc.new to /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc ? [10:18] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:19] sahko, yeah,with new-config of slackpkg [10:19] i moved it maanuallly but worked for me on 2 machines so far [10:19] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.35.65) joined ##slackware. [10:21] kdm works...and the splash screen wors.....but after that....just one white screen [10:21] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:21] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [10:23] v4nelle: does running "slackpkg install-new" give you any new packages? [10:23] And look at any error logs you can find [10:24] alienBOB,the only new package was libktorrent and i installe it [10:24] there is any log file for kde,except kdm.log? [10:26] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [10:26] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. 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[10:52] okay i want to install a base slack system without sacrificing too much function (text editors, network support, etc.), but i can make do without the games and so many windows managers. can CD1 hack it? [10:52] yes [10:53] although, the fortune program (the one that gives you those logon sniglets) is part of the y/bsd-games package [10:53] haha well i could make do without the fortune program too [10:54] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:55] i have a 10GB partition to play with and was thinking of doing a more spartan installation of slackware just to fool around with [10:56] but it's not like slack comes with a network-install like debian [10:56] y/ is too important to be left apart :P [10:56] so i just get the 1st cd of slack? [10:56] you may want to at least browse the 2nd cd to see if there's some extra stuff there as well [10:57] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.35.65) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:59] hm [11:00] ken [11:00] who's your cell provider [11:00] bijit (~bijit@186.4.3.18) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:01] VampX (~VampX@201.218.68.99) joined ##slackware. [11:03] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [11:06] stu_ (~stuartSan@175.144.248.49) left irc: [11:07] i find where is the problem....when i am on init 3 slackpkg dont show me the upgrade of kdelibs and qt! [11:07] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [11:07] mk_ (~10@189.77.121.248) joined ##slackware. [11:10] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:15] v4nelle (~v4nelle@78-48-76.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Quit: Want to be different? Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- [11:20] alienBOB: thanks for the advice with slackintosh current , hadnt figureout there was such a thing also [11:21] rachael: glad to have been useful [11:22] alienBOB: they dont come much more usefull that you [11:22] stu_ (~stuartSan@175.144.248.49) joined ##slackware. [11:22] is there a slackware equivalent to debian's netinst [11:23] Animeking (~Edgar@adsl-64-176-21.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:23] you can boot on usb/pxe, use a mirror or whatever you want [11:24] jnersn (~jnersn@c-e963e155.01-55-68617010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [11:25] caoliver (~oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:28] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [11:29] guys, wtf do flash version not have a bloody version number [11:29] makes it a nightmare to keep track of flash version [11:31] jnersn (~jnersn@c-e963e155.01-55-68617010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:31] A friend (former boss) gave me an old eeePC-1000 with the two internal flash disks. I'd like to reduce write wear. Aside from the obvious (mount -onoatime), any other ideas? I was thinking about moving /var/log to /dev/shm. What are the other high volatility files? [11:31] turn off akondi [11:32] I am not using KDE [11:32] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.99) joined ##slackware. [11:32] I run PekWM + ROX as my desktop. [11:32] phrag: Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22 [11:33] phrag: strings /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so | grep 'Shockwave Flash' [11:33] I will stuff that in the back of my head anyhow in case someone else does use KDA and has the same question. [11:33] s/KDA/KDE/ [11:34] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC44F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: brb [11:34] stu_ (~stuartSan@175.144.248.49) left irc: [11:34] I suppose in a similar vein, I should shut off things like automatic updating of slocatedb and the like. [11:36] Dumb question but did someone make a swap partition on your flash drive? [11:37] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.99) left irc: Client Quit [11:37] (asked because I've seen it done) [11:37] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [11:37] thanks adrien =) [11:38] arfon, why would you want that [11:38] ??? but it was done on a friend's eeepc. That REALLY tears up flash [11:38] oh yea [11:38] it's a lot of hits, yeh [11:38] my ssd on this computer is getting on my nerves [11:39] arfon: No, I'm configuring this with NO swap. [11:40] jnersn (~jnersn@c-e963e155.01-55-68617010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [11:40] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC44F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:40] i love my ssd [11:40] what's the point of having ssd and swapping to a thumb drive :D [11:41] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:41] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [11:42] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [11:42] I'm waiting for a 2G so-dimm from the egg so I can hit /dev/shm a bit harder. I want to try Emacs+slime+sbcl on this toy even if it's not a typical box for stuff of that weight. [11:43] He has a memory slot on his eeepc and he has his linux image in a flash card. [11:43] Windoz is on the ssd and Linux is on the memslot card [11:43] phrag: np :-) [11:44] My home firewall is much like that. (eeePC-701. 1G flash card) [11:44] he had a swap partition on the memcard [11:45] The only thing I have on flash on that box, is the kernel and the initramfs which is the whole system. [11:45] (Forget the comma) [11:45] what comma? :) [11:45] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:46] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:46] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:47] Action: phrag eats fugde donut [11:48] fugde? [11:48] That sounds nasty [11:48] jnersn (~jnersn@c-e963e155.01-55-68617010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:49] jnersn (~jnersn@c-e963e155.01-55-68617010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [11:51] ViN86 (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:52] raela (1000@unaffiliated/raela) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:53] fudge \o/ [11:53] kinda like retarded fudge [11:53] I need to try fudge donut, didn't think that existed ;p [11:53] chance22 (~chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:53] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [11:53] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [11:56] jnersn89 (~jnersn@c-e963e155.01-55-68617010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [11:56] I just did a slackpkg update, and there were changes. I did a slackpkg install-new and slackpkg upgrade-all, but there were no changes. Where would I look to find what the changes in upgrade were? I assume my installed packages no longer resemble a standard Slackware 13.1 install. [11:56] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:57] wtf did summer go? [11:57] phrag: its not here yet.. not til Bernie Ecclestone approves it [11:58] oh good, for a moment there i thought i'd blinked and missed it o.0 [11:58] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:58] still got croatia to look forward to start of september =) [11:59] croatia?! [11:59] yeh, outlook festival in croatia [11:59] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:59] *scoff* [11:59] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [11:59] thought you meant GP [12:00] jnersn89 (~jnersn@c-e963e155.01-55-68617010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Client Quit [12:00] jnersn (~jnersn@c-e963e155.01-55-68617010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:00] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:00] nope, big dub party on a tropical island for a week =) [12:00] dub, reggae, sunshine, and the only shells i have to touch are on the beach =P [12:01] I guess Croatia only looks tropical to people living in the UK ;p [12:01] hahaha [12:01] totally.. it's the UK =P [12:02] well i define tropical as lovely sunshine.. that'll do me =) [12:02] and not packed with tourists [12:02] I've been to Croatia, nice weather, nice islands too =) [12:02] anywhere near Pula ? [12:03] terry (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:03] that was 10 years ago, was in the north of Croatia iirc [12:03] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:05] ah cool, i can't wait =) [12:05] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:06] tawfiq (~tawfiq@41.140.83.86) joined ##slackware. [12:07] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [12:07] Action: nachox bows [12:07] stinky (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-bddeqjaujlrwuftp) joined ##slackware. [12:08] Action: phrag greets nachox with a cold beer [12:08] thanks mate [12:09] kleanchap (~chatzilla@p5B11A5DC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [12:09] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [12:11] I tried to install S13.1 yesterday (pretty much default install) with the exception of lilo. Lilo will not install. Why? This system is eeepc 1505HA which has Windows 7 already on it. I am trying to make this a dual boot system. [12:13] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:13] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [12:13] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [12:13] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-227.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:14] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-30-204.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:14] Teratogen (leontopod@unaffiliated/teratogen) joined ##slackware. [12:14] is there a slackbuild for google chrome? [12:15] chance22 (chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [12:15] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [12:16] Teratogen: slackbuilds.org search for it :) [12:16] ok thanks [12:17] chance22 (~chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:17] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:17] kleanchap: you tried to install lilo and it failed? [12:18] Ok, guys! How about this. On booting, use rsync to move an on disk copy of /var to /dev/shm, then rsync it back on shutdown. I figure this should reduce the number of pages written while preserving at least some of the syslog functionality. [12:18] adrien: Yes [12:18] any error message? [12:18] xovan (~chatzilla@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:19] bind updates in -current [12:19] Kleanchap, did the packageinstall fail, the lilo cohfig faile or it just refuses to start? [12:19] kleanchap: you do know that W7 needs 100mb partition for some system stuff which relies on MBR? if im not mistaken.. [12:19] raela (1000@unaffiliated/raela) joined ##slackware. [12:21] usus12jari (~ashe@125.166.163.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:21] pupit: I believe you are right. When I tried to adjust the partitions in W7, it automatically left out 100MB in the beginning. [12:21] it's not exactly that iirc: it requires a primary partition and at least 100MB space [12:22] but lilo in mbr + chainload will work right [12:22] kleanchap: does win7 currently boots ok? [12:22] adrien: Yes, it does. [12:22] That's what I am using now. [12:23] check you don't have some "antivirus protection" in the bios [12:23] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.34.149) joined ##slackware. [12:24] kleanchap: lilo must go to MBR. and as adrien says - you have to add that 100mb partition to lilo in order to boot W7 [12:25] slack should make the lilo.conf for windows just right [12:26] pupit: I will see if I can adjust the partitions. [12:27] Liquidsnake (~celingest@unaffiliated/get) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:27] watch out: moving the beginning of windows system partitions might prevent it from booting [12:27] kleanchap: what error you got from lilo? [12:28] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:29] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Quit: life(); [12:29] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [12:29] john_dee (~id@93-81-141-122.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [12:29] kleanchap: what error you got from lilo? [12:30] replay (replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left ##slackware. [12:30] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [12:30] pupit: When I run lilo after the install, it does not give the standard message "Windows" installed "Linux" installed..etc. [12:31] spook (~spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:31] how do you run lilo? [12:31] On the next screen it did give a message about MBR. This was yesterday and I don't recall the message. [12:32] thru the "setup" utility during install. [12:32] ok, you manually configured lilo or automatically ? [12:33] automatically [12:33] ;) [12:34] wait a minute, it was manually. [12:34] chroot to system you have that command for it before you start loading the kernel [12:34] grazymax (~grazymax@host210-153-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:34] Yes, I added Windows and then Linux to the Lilo config. [12:35] ok, you have to go back to initial screen of slack install [12:35] and chroot to system [12:35] ViN86_ (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:35] you have that command on that screen [12:35] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:36] if you remeber on what part is slack system: /dev/sdaX [12:38] ViN86 (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [12:40] xovan (~chatzilla@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.4/20100622203045] [12:41] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:41] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [12:41] Did you tell it to INSTALL at the end of lilo setup? [12:42] 23 => google-chrome [12:42] /usr/bin/google-chrome: error while loading shared libraries: libgconf-2.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [12:42] =( [12:42] Channel flood from Teratogen -- kicking [12:42] help! [12:42] Teratogen kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [12:42] Teratogen (leontopod@unaffiliated/teratogen) joined ##slackware. [12:42] whups! [12:42] sorry, I flooded! [12:42] slackbuild and install lingconf [12:43] lib [12:43] libconf? [12:43] arfon, libconf? [12:43] Kleanchap, did you tell the setup script to INSTALL lilo after you added the windows and linux partitions? [12:43] libgconf [12:44] ok thanks arfon [12:44] IRRC, it's one of the dependancies listed in the slackbuild [12:44] man, I'm off today' [12:44] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:45] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:46] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [12:46] yikes! [12:47] GConf requires ORBit [12:47] wtf [12:47] Yep [12:47] how many dependencies are there? [12:47] any more than that, arfon? [12:47] It's only 2 dependancies [12:47] ok [12:47] I really want to get google chrome working [12:47] nope Orbit2 and gconf [12:47] The slackbuild readme lists them [12:48] I built it on my machines, it's meh [12:48] Action: Roin likes rekonq [12:48] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:48] mk_ (~10@189.77.121.248) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [12:49] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:50] jesus arfon, lots of compiling going on [12:50] Compiling = good...halt on errors = bad [12:50] heh [12:50] send me the bumber sticker [12:50] If you wanna see compiling, go run the Wine slackbuild! [12:51] If I were at home Trea, I'd just link you to my packages [12:51] Tera [12:51] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7F065.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:51] Judging by spelling alone, I think we are all stoned today. [12:52] haha [12:52] Wine must be huge [12:52] (the good kind, not the middle east kind) [12:53] that last line took about 20 seconds to figure out... [12:53] sort of lost the "stoned" reference for a moment [12:53] Surprisingly, Wine's sources aren't that big but man do they take forever to compile [12:53] whoop! [12:53] google chrome works! [12:53] http://www.khromewerks.com/ [12:53] Wut? [12:53] now I need to set up an icon for it [12:54] Hooray, beer! [12:54] Action: arfon like the Netscape Navigator Icon [12:54] This advice was brought to you by Red Stripe beer [12:54] is the advice better when you're drinking an imported beer? [12:55] That's debatable.... [12:55] My advice seems to be better when I'm drinking but, it usually includes more "Your Mamma" comments [12:56] that's interesting... is this true for your coding too? [12:56] lmao [12:56] e.g "Where do I get sources for gconf?"... "Your mamma." [12:56] ftp://hydra5.no-ip.org/EinSlack.png <- XD [12:56] i.e., ## this enables xxxx -- your mamma [12:56] Nice [12:56] arfon: you need to drink a *bit* less then -; ) [12:56] ;-) [12:56] Your mamma [12:56] :) [12:56] lol [12:56] arfon, thanks, google chrome works [12:57] and I have an icon for it on my task bar [12:57] I would say congrats but I find Chrome annoying so, I'll say.. okay [12:57] :) [12:57] well, I just wanted to try it [12:57] m3tti: awesome :) [12:57] I prefer firefox because of cool extensions like noscript and adblock plus [12:57] Tera, nothing wrong with Chrome, I just hate change. :) [12:58] Slackware's unofficial motto: If it ain't broke...? [12:59] something that works, can still be broken ;) [12:59] hi [12:59] I prefer Firefox because it loads slow and ignores my clicks :) [12:59] Hi Moe, where's Curly? [13:00] Teratogen: try rekonq its quite good and based on webkit engine [13:00] isn't that just konqueror? [13:00] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-189-009.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:01] Teratogen: don't think so. But you can make konqueror use webkit maybe thats the fork [13:01] no, nothing like konq [13:02] Well guys, C-ya after lunch [13:03] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:03] coucou [13:03] =) [13:06] Bugz_ (~Bugz_@75.42.76.199) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:06] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-76-199.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:08] Bugz_ (~Bugz_@adsl-75-42-68-163.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:08] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-68-163.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:09] Bugz_ (~Bugz_@adsl-75-42-68-163.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:09] Bugz_ (~Bugz_@adsl-75-42-68-163.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:12] !help [13:12] ?version [13:13] %info [13:13] sahko: (info ) -- Returns information from the given RSS feed, namely the title, URL, description, and last update date, if available. [13:13] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-20-75.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:14] who's bot is it? [13:14] heh [13:14] no idea. i just got lucky [13:14] with the % [13:14] heh [13:14] well already been banned in ##linux and a few other channels; reported to staff [13:14] kleanchap (~chatzilla@p5B11A5DC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625231939] [13:15] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [13:15] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [13:15] alan`: you need to remove moe` [13:15] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:16] OK - moe` is the bot placed here by the ops of #slackhappy [13:16] dominian, what's the attitude towards bots on this channel? [13:17] Bots are not allowed here, and I will file a complaint with Freenode [13:17] alienBOB: already done. [13:17] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-30-204.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:17] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [13:17] shonudo: bots aren't to be put in a channel without the expressed permission if its owners [13:17] makes sense [13:17] its a violation of network policy to do so otherwise and can result in a kline [13:17] got it [13:17] alright alright [13:17] who gets klined? the bot or the bot owner, or both? [13:18] let me get onto the vm [13:18] shonudo: both [13:18] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-8-239.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:18] Nick change: _Lucifer -> Yandertal [13:18] moe` (~supybot@CPE-24-209-190-7.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Ctrl-C at console. [13:19] I vote for kicking alan` too - if this happens again. And a permban [13:20] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.100.166) joined ##slackware. [13:20] its not happening again [13:20] i had no control over that bot [13:20] i removed the shell that was giving to the person who put it up [13:20] You ctrl'cd it [13:21] sure [13:21] I already banned it in ##linux [13:21] We all saw alan` [13:21] yes ik you all saw it [13:21] its not coming back [13:21] Of course it isn't [13:21] blah blah blah [13:21] Who was controlling it if not you? [13:21] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:21] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:21] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:22] the bot gnomes :D [13:22] look it is removed. if it returns i wil take a kline [13:22] yep [13:22] alienBOB: /mode +b *!*supybot@* seems to work wonders ;) [13:24] and take Dominian out with it! [13:24] Action: stinky hands out the torches and pitchforks. [13:27] I'm pretty sure what was another #slaphappy bot [13:28] er.. #slackhappy :) [13:28] Courtney probably runs it [13:28] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-8-239.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [13:29] may I ask whats all about this #slackhappy channel? Someone invited me a few days ago, didnt join [13:29] Roin: long story [13:29] not something to get into in here :) [13:29] oh ok [13:30] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:30] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.99) joined ##slackware. [13:30] A silly young fellow who seems to have a severe learning disability recently was banned from here, so he thinks he can run a rival channel. Go into his channel to ask his side of that story, and yes, 'nuff said. [13:31] ##slackware: mode change '+b ##slackware!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:31] lol [13:31] ##slackware: mode change '-b ##slackware!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:33] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:34] Nick change: alphageek -> omegageek [13:34] alphageek (rooot@69-165-139-158.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [13:35] Action: troy notes that alphageek must be next door someplace, based on his rdns :) [13:35] eh? [13:35] define 'next door' [13:35] southern ontario :P canadian standards of next door [13:35] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:36] yep [13:36] unless teksavvy is expanding [13:36] I'm in London [13:36] alphageek: so am I :) [13:36] haha [13:36] what was that ban? [13:36] just a bit NE of Huron/Adelaide. you? [13:37] just moved from that region - was at cheapside and adelaide - now I'm on the other side of the river by western [13:37] alphageek: you're in the ghetto :P [13:37] trust me, I know [13:38] I'm hellbent on moving out of here before the gangs step things up another notch or 2 [13:38] anyway - gotta run to campus for a few hours - alphageek, if you're around often, we'll do coffee or something to be slack-nerds-of-unusual-size [13:38] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [13:38] Action: troy goes to the arctic this week and won't be back for a month [13:38] rapid (rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:39] cool stuff. I'm always logged in, just 'awake' is questionable [13:39] Action: troy kicks himself... *boing* [13:39] & time for me to head out as well. webcam shopping [13:40] doesn't anyone work in canada? :p [13:40] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@189-041-189-009.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [13:40] No. There's nobody in Canada. It's too crowded. [13:40] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:42] now for some fun. let's see how things look when I make the netbook hibernate :) [13:42] o/ [13:44] thrice`: funny things is the literal meaning of "canada" in Austrian is "nobody there". So... [13:44] troy (~troy@dsl-67-204-41-52.acanac.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:44] well that was neat. doing it again, but keeping it off [13:44] & off it goes again [13:45] rapid (rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [13:46] :p [13:46] I installed pygtk via slackpkg, but uzbl-tabbed still says "ImportError: No module named pygtk". Same error text occurs if i just type 'python' and 'import pygtk' [13:46] aarchvile, which version of pygtk + gtk ? [13:47] (also, did you install pygtk's deps?) [13:47] probably not [13:47] pygtk-2.16.0 and gtk+2-2.18.9 [13:48] ok, which versions of pycairo, pygobject ? [13:48] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:49] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@75-132-181-155.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [13:49] omegageek (rooot@69-165-139-158.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:49] pygobject wasn't installed :). works now correctly. [13:49] thanks [13:49] np [13:53] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.100.166) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:55] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:57] Prodego (~Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego) joined ##slackware. [13:57] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:58] ikhider (~ikhider@CPE00226b4dc6c8-CM001868522c6c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [13:58] spook (~spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [13:59] Greetings Slackers--I am trying to install Ted (a light word processor) and have troubles. Can someone perhaps walk me through teh process? I am a newb and there are no slackbuilds for it yet. [14:00] http://www.nllgg.nl/Ted/ [14:00] ./configure && make && make install [14:00] ikhider: trying to get the gtk UI? [14:00] as root [14:00] long story indeed :p [14:01] ross` (~ross@foo.mx) joined ##slackware. [14:01] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [14:01] wow scroll fail [14:02] Ted fails to compile for some reason [14:03] well, it'll say why [14:03] so *why*? [14:04] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [14:04] Howdy [14:06] adrien: My brother, the 'Linux whiz' tried and failed. So (the newb) am trying again. Let me get a hold of him and ask what the failure was [14:07] Ugh, he has no idea [14:07] rha [14:07] Okay, blank slate here [14:08] configure? [14:08] adrien: SO you see it, you know the program I am talking about? (I have a 1.6 Ghz AMD CPU) [14:08] isis___ (~isis@186.18.225.130) joined ##slackware. [14:08] I've used it [14:08] adrien: Can it be installed for Slackware? [14:09] I've used it on slackware and built it myself [14:09] adrien: I downloaded the x86 version [14:09] errr? not the sources? [14:09] ikhider: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/office/Ted/ [14:10] adrien: sahko Whoa! Thanks! [14:10] this is for 13.0 but shouldnt be so hard to fix for 13.1 [14:10] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7F065.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:10] ah, I was almost sure it was on sbo but I didn't look it up in 13.0 slackuilds ='( [14:10] Action: adrien hides in shame [14:10] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:10] excuse me, could someone tell me who runs this channel? [14:10] sahko: Wait, there is nothing there! [14:11] ikhider: nothing as in ...? [14:11] sahko: As in 'page not found' [14:11] sahko: And it is a slackbuilds 'apge not found' [14:11] page [14:11] works for me [14:12] search the site for ted, change 13.1 to 13.0. its the first result [14:12] ross`: hia alan` [14:12] Preparing another bot? [14:13] sahko: Okay, finally got it [14:13] This channel is operated by its operators ross` [14:13] alienBOB: no.. im not alan` however im a friend of his friend.. i've been asked to host a channel bot for bagira but i want to talk to the person in charge here to figure out why bagira is doing this. [14:14] and by friend of his friend thats kevin` not bagira [14:14] i'm lost [14:14] Interesting. BTW Ross, your SOA on foo.mx. is wrong. [14:14] Action: arfon gets popcorn to watch the drama [14:15] Perhaps this discussion belongs in #freenode? [14:15] alienBOB: now if someone would like to have an adult conversation lacking in insult id be very happy to accommodate that. [14:15] ross`: there is a pm already waiting [14:15] rob0: yes, i believe that would be fine :) im not here to support either side, they asked me to help them [14:15] and im trying to figure out whats going on [14:16] Ross, no one insulted you. [14:16] ross`: insult? adult? Sounds like you are bagira [14:16] No, if he was bagira he would not have mentioned bagira :) [14:16] Bagira is a devious trickster [14:16] alienBOB: i really dont care what you think. if you think im bagira give me the +b ill have you know tho that bagira is really pissed at me because im talking to you right now [14:17] hes going crazy in /query [14:17] bagira is banned from here for quite good reason, and please do not aid him in avoiding that ban. [14:17] Well you are not responding to _my_ query [14:17] rob0: thats not what i would have been helping him with [14:17] Ban evasion is a kline offense according to Freenode, IIUC. [14:19] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:19] ross`: "ross\@foo.mx." in the foo.mx. SOA should be "ross.foo.mx." [14:22] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.100.166) joined ##slackware. [14:24] abhijit (~Abhijit@unaffiliated/abhijit) joined ##slackware. [14:24] hell all [14:24] hell to you too:) [14:25] in the torrents download there is only one entry for 64 bit os. and its says everything. what does this everythign means? I dont want any unwanted things. I just was slack [14:25] sahko, :) [14:25] abhijit: everything means DVD means everything [14:25] Roin, I dont watn extra softwares. [14:26] extra is only included not installed by default [14:26] Roin, you mean I wll have a choice which to install and which to not? [14:26] not even on a full install, has the advantage of having extra/ so you only need to install what you need from it [14:26] abhijit: depends on your choice [14:27] Roin, I just need slack. nothing else. if i need anything i wll install it afterwards. [14:27] abhijit: if you decide to do a full install then: no, but there are options to select things by yourself (single packages) and you can leave away whole software parts like KDE if you like in full [14:27] jnylin (~jnylin@c-4171e655.177-7-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [14:28] I think the Slackbook has a nice part about installing slackware ._. [14:28] Roin, what the actual problem is slack is only available in dvd format for 64bit os. and its very much time consuming for me. so actually i wanted 64 bit slack in cd. or less than cd size [14:29] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-242-67.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:29] help please. it says that 1 or 2 days for downlaod [14:29] abhijit: its not available [14:29] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-217-188.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [14:29] sahko, :( [14:30] sahko, can i request slackware cd for free? [14:30] there are net installers, but you'll hit the same issue [14:31] :( [14:31] no, but you can buy one from store.slackware.com [14:31] sahko, ok [14:31] not if he doesnt install everything or do the netinstallers force you to make a full install thrice` ? [14:31] woa http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/slackware/sls-1.03/ [14:31] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [14:32] no, not full install, but will still be alot of downloading :) [14:32] oh ok [14:32] man I can't wait for freenode to kline that damn idiot. [14:33] raela: got a second? [14:33] chopp: whats up? [14:33] chopp: thatd be nice [14:33] troy (~troy@dyn129-100-89-37.reznet.wireless.uwo.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:33] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:33] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [14:33] anyone from Mumbai here who can download dvd and give it to me is possible, plese? [14:33] phrag: referring to the never ending cpunches drama. [14:33] chopp: on it [14:33] awsome [14:34] I tried to compile Ted and got the following error: http://pastebin.ca/1904665 [14:34] ikhider: x86_64? [14:35] yep [14:35] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:35] run the script with ARCH=x86_64 ./ted.SlackBuild [14:36] or similar [14:36] sahko: Ahh, okay [14:36] its not guaranteed to work. most likely it was removed from 13.1 for a reason [14:37] satty (daf85033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.248.80.51) joined ##slackware. [14:38] how to install legacy grub and configure kernel in slackware 13.1 [14:38] haha [14:39] Abhitjit, why don't you ftp to a mirror and just download the /slackware directory then use the usbdisk image to install? [14:39] arfon, problem is 'time' to download. [14:39] is my mic off? [14:39] Doh! [14:39] I HATE page up [14:40] I was reading old messages... [14:40] Abhijit, how about going to an internet cafe? [14:40] or ask a local LUG for help [14:41] troy (~troy@dyn129-100-89-37.reznet.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:41] or go ask someone with open wifi [14:41] Or you and some friends download parts of /slackware simulatneously [14:41] arfon, ohhhh. i have speed of 40kBps. and it needs apprx 2 days for one dvd i.e. 4 gb [14:41] i dono where is local lug [14:42] satty Google is your firend [14:42] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:42] Nick change: estranho_out -> estranho [14:42] satty, grub is in extra/ , but it's quite lacking and should be avoided. for kernel, why do you want to configure it differently than slackware's ? :) [14:42] ok thanks all. I wll find someone. :) [14:43] Well Adhijit, the only other option is to buy a CD but, that will take longer than 2days [14:43] caoliver (oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [14:43] thrice`: as i configured before mannualy [14:43] arfon, ok [14:44] Adhijit, torrent is your friend because it will resume automatically [14:45] arfon, yes 2 days for torrent only [14:45] If it helps any Abhijit, I've been there, I felt your pain. [14:45] But 40K is better than 14.4 [14:45] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [14:45] arfon, ohh yes . its ok. thank you all for replying :) [14:46] uva (as@111-240-214-84.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] sahko: Another error: http://pastebin.ca/1904675 [14:47] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:47] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:47] ikhider: its needs a patch for the new libpng or compile it against the old one [14:48] sahko: Can you elaborate? [14:48] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [14:49] sahko: You mean a dependency? [14:49] no. see for example this build script http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/community/ted/repos/community-i686/PKGBUILD [14:49] the libpng 1.4 part [14:50] the sed line [14:50] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:50] uva (as@111-240-214-84.dynamic.hinet.net) left ##slackware. [14:50] satty (daf85033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.248.80.51) left ##slackware. [14:52] tsomi (~tsomi@lns-bzn-33-82-252-61-132.adsl.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:53] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [14:53] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [14:58] sahko: http://pastebin.ca/1904682 (my output is a bit different from yours) [14:58] daniel_s (~daniel_s@188-194-153-115-dynip.superkabel.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:58] sahko: What line do you suggest I change? [14:58] daniel_s (~daniel_s@188-194-153-115-dynip.superkabel.de) joined ##slackware. [14:59] ikhider: add the sed line from the above link i gave you in line 71 [14:59] got to go for a while [14:59] sahko: Thanks [15:01] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [15:03] abhijit (Abhijit@unaffiliated/abhijit) left ##slackware ("Have a look at my cool desktop: http://picasaweb.google.com/abhijit.foss/MyCoolDesktop#"). [15:05] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Sto andando via [15:05] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:08] hi there, could anyone of you give me the result of '$ fc-match Times', please? I'd like to make sure I'm not the only one having a bug with that on Slackware. thanks [15:09] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:10] timR12-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: "Times" "Regular" [15:10] but i'm using an old version of slack [15:12] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Sto andando via [15:12] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:13] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [15:13] Skywise: OK, thank you very much. But I guess this problem only appears with a more recent version, I think I didn't have this bug before 13.0 [15:13] I'm trying to acces a USB thumdrive from a guest OS but, I added the USB controller but in the menu all USB devices are greyed out. did anyone had theese issues? [15:14] ^ virtualbox that is, running on slack64 13.1 [15:14] korg815 (~korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [15:14] samfisher: You're using the opensource edition of virtualbox? [15:15] Am still trying to install Ted and I got the following error message:http://pastebin.ca/1904689 [15:15] Can anyone 'splain? [15:15] samfisher: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/cannot-use-any-usb-devices-in-virtualbox-572305/#post2960326 [15:16] ikhider: what version of slack? [15:16] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:16] pupit: 13.1 [15:16] ikhider: and how many bits and tits it has? [15:16] pupit: 64 bit AMD cpu [15:17] ikhider, needs patching for libpng 1.4: http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/app-editors/ted/files/ted-2.20-libpng14.patch?revision=1.1&view=markup [15:18] Nick change: Yandertal -> _Lucifer [15:18] thrice`: How do I patch? [15:18] thrice`: library issue.. [15:18] thrice`: I added the line, but no dice [15:18] http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/community/ted/repos/community-i686/PKGBUILD [15:19] (that was what Sahko suggested I do--no positive results when I added the red line) [15:19] pupit, png function change issue [15:19] ikhider, ok, paste your slackbuild ? [15:20] that sed line does the same as the patch [15:20] http://pastebin.ca/1904682 [15:21] phrag: I'm back around now [15:21] ikhider, ok, so you didn't add the sed line :) [15:21] ikhider: you didnt add the sed line [15:21] yeah [15:22] ikhider, try this: http://pastebin.ca/1904692 [15:22] ikhider: channel guidelines says you update libpng, have you did it? [15:23] pupit, he's on 13.1 [15:23] no I did add the line: http://pastebin.ca/1904693 [15:23] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [15:24] Sorry, older post I posted [15:24] phrag: send a pm whenever, but I will be heading back out in a few [15:24] thrice`: so? [15:24] thrice`: cant he update libpng? [15:25] ikhider: you just added the comment that starts with # [15:25] use thrice`'s script [15:25] pupit, sigh, he's ON updated libpng [15:26] thrice`: ok ok :) [15:27] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [15:28] ArTourter (~artourter@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:28] pupit: yea, it sais on slack 13.1 in no longer works [15:28] tsomi: i think so [15:29] samfisher: either 13.1 or current , but its settled now :) [15:30] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:31] phrag: I'm in the process of moving apartments right now, so my response time might be long.. pm me when you get back with whatever and I'll respond later. need to go get the food to this apartment :) [15:33] pupit: i'm confuse, sorry. what part do I have to apply from that guide? [15:34] sahko: Successful install! Thanks! Thanks Thrice! [15:34] How do I invoke it now? [15:34] lol [15:34] did you install it, or just build it? [15:35] thrice`: Oops, oh yeah [15:35] : - S [15:35] samfisher: in /etc/rc.d/rc.S this line : "/sbin/mount -v usbfs /proc/bus/usb -t usbfs -o devgid=10,devmode=664" needs to replace this line "/sbin/mount -v usbfs /proc/bus/usb -t usbfs" [15:35] tawfiq (~tawfiq@41.140.83.86) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:35] samfisher: if you have 'closed' source vbox [15:39] thrice`: Woohoo! Works now! [15:39] thrice`: Thanks! : - ) [15:39] bon [15:39] err, wrong chan =) [15:39] ikhider, cool :> np [15:45] isis___ (~isis@186.18.225.130) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:45] pupit: thank you! [15:47] Am also trying to install audacity and got the following error:http://pastebin.ca/1904711 [15:47] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.100.166) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:47] Action: nix_chix0r gives edman007 a pony [15:48] Nice, edman007 just got a fertilizer factory [15:50] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:51] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [15:51] When I looked up the Slackbuild info on Audacity--there is an either/or dependency. I guess if I isnatlled both that would cause a problem? [15:51] If it barfs, remove one [15:52] arfon: 'cept I don't know if that is the problem. [15:52] arfon: http://pastebin.ca/1904711 [15:54] ikhider: you're supposed to install the dependencies yourself. they're mentioned in the README, not in the SlackBuild [15:54] ikhider, I'm sorry but that is very hard to read on Lynx [15:54] arfon: I did install the dependencies [15:54] I don't think you get the error either [15:54] That's two of us [15:55] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:55] sahko: Yeah, I did install the dependencies [15:55] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [15:55] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [15:55] which dependencies? [15:55] sahko: You think the error is a dependency issue? [15:56] wxPython AND wxGTK [15:56] I installed both [15:56] thats should be an OR [15:56] that* [15:57] Which would suggest I go with? [15:57] Nick change: Wulf-is-not-here -> WireWulf [15:57] no idea [15:57] That makes three of us [15:57] shell-lord (~shell-lor@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:57] ViN86 (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:57] wxGTK [15:57] do you have a full Slackware installation? [15:57] arfon: Thanks [15:58] sahko: Yep [15:58] ok then follow the README. Audacity requires libsndfile and either wxPython or wxGTK, and optional [15:58] dependencies are ffmpeg, soundtouch, and twolame. [15:58] and you should be ok [15:58] sahko: I know [15:58] arfon: Wait, actually I installed wxGTK first and got no dice [15:59] Does xwGTK have any un-met dependancies? [15:59] ViN86_ (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:00] arfon: I met them and it installed fine [16:00] you get this error when you try and compile audacity? [16:01] (sorry, I can't read pastebin very well) [16:01] arfon: AudacityApp.o: file not recognized: File truncated [16:02] arfon: collect2: ld returned 1 exit status [16:02] arfon: make[1]: *** [../audacity] Error 1 [16:02] arfon: make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/SBo/audacity-src-1.3.12-beta/src [16:03] no its not a dependency issue [16:03] sahko: aahhh [16:04] http://dickensurl.com/1009b/Money_and_goods_are_certainly_the_best_of_references [16:06] enough space? [16:06] ikhider, re-download audacity source and try again [16:07] arfon: why? [16:07] because I looked at a few forum posts about that "File truncated" error and it seems that it is a bad source file [16:07] blzkz (~blzkz@84.123.252.199.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:08] please note, I said 'seems' [16:08] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-esonaddwfyctwgwu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:08] arfon: okay, makes sense [16:09] I'm probably wrong but let's try the easy stuff firts [16:09] first [16:10] rirombo (~rirombo@h113.187.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [16:10] samfisher (1000@unaffiliated/samfisher) left irc: Quit: exit error code 434 [16:12] ikhider, are you building 32 or 64bit? [16:12] ive got a strange nfs problem [16:12] hi [16:13] Oh noes! More fs problems with Dusty :) [16:13] when my mac laptop connects to my slackbox and trys to mount a nfs volume, syslog fills with [16:13] Jul 20 21:03:54 server rpc.statd[1814]: No canonical hostname found for 192.168.1.5 [16:13] Jul 20 21:03:54 server rpc.statd[1814]: STAT_FAIL to server for SM_MON of 192.168.1.5 [16:13] ViN86 (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:13] arfon: 64 [16:13] Ok Ik, I'm gonna try and build on my box too [16:14] could this be the work of a virus? [16:16] arfon: I know some builds you do not have to change the arch0--is it the same case here? [16:16] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [16:16] The latest batch of Slackbuilds detect the arch [16:17] arfon: Amazing--so this one probably does too then [16:17] I haven't seen a 13.1 build that didnt [16:18] I wanna kis the SBo guy(s) that did that. [16:19] arfon: Same crash as before when I re-downloaded and installed [16:19] or error rather [16:19] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:20] Nick change: bunnyboi -> jennifur [16:20] I'm trying to build it on my box ik, hang on [16:20] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-153-88.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:21] arfon: Okilly-dokilly [16:21] ikhider, you installed libsndfile, wxGTK and anything else? [16:22] arfon: I tried python, and then removed it [16:23] So, you didnt install ffmpeg or twolame or the other optionla dep? [16:23] (I'm trying to match you) [16:23] No I did not [16:23] Ok, hang on [16:25] fxer (~fxer@c-6c00e255.165-500-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:25] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:26] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [16:28] nvision (~nvision@g225054066.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:28] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [16:29] 3I HATE ffmpeg [16:29] arfon: That is a mac format, correct? [16:30] No, it's mpeg [16:31] It actually does a bunch [16:33] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-153-88.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:33] tsomi (tsomi@lns-bzn-33-82-252-61-132.adsl.proxad.net) left ##slackware ("Quitte"). [16:35] arfon: Think we found a bug? [16:36] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:36] tekzilla (~jon@d008035.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:37] alphad64 (~alphad64@41.66.5.112) joined ##slackware. [16:38] tekzilla (~jon@c134136.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [16:38] hersonls (~hersonls@189.43.141.102) left irc: Quit: Saindo [16:39] Me? or you? [16:39] I'm building libsndfile now [16:40] alphad64 (~alphad64@41.66.5.112) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:41] You're on 13.1 right? [16:42] arfon: affirmative [16:42] okay libsndfile build fine, doing soundtouch now [16:43] jnylin (~jnylin@c-4171e655.177-7-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:44] Building Audacity, so far ok [16:44] fxer (~fxer@c-6c00e255.165-500-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:45] shyko_ (~shyko@187.39.212.216) joined ##slackware. [16:45] shyko_ (~shyko@187.39.212.216) left irc: Client Quit [16:46] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:46] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:48] still compiling [16:48] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:49] mk_ (~10@187.65.71.148) joined ##slackware. [16:49] kotrcka (~Peter@bband-dyn245.178-41-81.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [16:49] obnauticus (~obnauticu@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [16:51] does building RPMs on slackware actually work? [16:52] dafydd (~dafydd@173.181.30.132) joined ##slackware. [16:52] perhaps it would -- not sure why you would want to. [16:53] well rpmbuild is installed :p [16:53] however, i work in an enviornment that is CentOS but i run slack on my workstation [16:53] would be nice to be able to build packages on my machine [16:53] I would do a chroot of centos [16:54] ikhider, I THINK I may have built these on my 32bit box. :( I need to wait for it to finish to verify. [16:54] eh, its not that deep [16:55] arfon: Okay, I tried installing audacity a couple of more times, same error [17:01] If you have time, let me move the sources to my 64bit box and try again [17:02] colmcille (~colmcille@94.30.27.232) joined ##slackware. [17:03] o/ [17:03] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-251.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:04] Necos (~tessai@dynamic-oit-vapornet-c-392.Princeton.EDU) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:08] neBu (1000@neBu.ro) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:09] neBu (1000@neBu.ro) joined ##slackware. [17:09] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:09] arfon: Still installing? [17:09] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:10] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [17:10] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:10] This is painful [17:11] what's painful? [17:11] arfon_ (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [17:11] pain [17:12] shonudo: Installing audacity. Me--error messages, arfon--just installing [17:12] yes, rob0, pain is painful, indeed [17:12] ik, 32bit audacity compiled operfectly [17:12] hmmm... i never had trouble installing it [17:12] which version? [17:12] shonudo: 1.3.12 [17:13] I am 4 bit, but there is nothing about arch though [17:13] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:13] err 64 bit [17:13] kotrcka (~Peter@bband-dyn245.178-41-81.t-com.sk) left irc: Quit: Odchádzam [17:13] nix_chix0r, !!! [17:13] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [17:14] i have 1.3.0-beta running on 32bit -- it's never presented a problem [17:14] what are the errors? [17:14] arfon, did you compile 32bit audacity on a 64bit system? [17:14] shonudo: http://pastebin.ca/1904711 [17:15] ah, my first trip of the day to pastebin... [17:15] it's going to be a great evening [17:15] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:16] am0rphis (~qwe@79.124.151.86) joined ##slackware. [17:16] ikhider, you might try an earlier version of audacity [17:17] i've not come across that error [17:17] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:17] shonudo: Where might I find the earlier versions? [17:17] what are you looking for? source is at the audacity site, iirc [17:17] do you want a package? [17:18] shonudo: The Slackbuild [17:18] and source [17:18] I suppose the build would work on any source? [17:18] you may have to make this yourself [17:19] ugh [17:19] not safe to assume, but worth a try [17:19] I am a newb, am not really sure how [17:19] Besides, if you do not know the error--then maybe the problem is something else [17:19] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:20] http://www.slacky.eu/asche64/pkgs/index.php?sear=audacity [17:20] ^^ try that, ikhider [17:20] VampX (~VampX@201.218.68.99) left irc: Quit: VampX [17:21] blzkz (~blzkz@84.123.252.199.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [17:21] shonudo: Hey, the dependencies are different [17:21] blondais (~agris@pasts.blondais.lv) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:21] indeed [17:21] I need way more on this one [17:21] go figure [17:22] so try it [17:22] edman007, haider [17:22] installing the listed dependencies won't hurt anything [17:22] nix_chix0r, i have a pony! [17:23] but the pony looks dead :( [17:23] shonudo: Okie doke, will try [17:23] good luck with it [17:23] dangit edman007 no one likes dead ponies [17:23] would be interesting if you end up with the same error(s) again [17:23] blondais (~agris@mail.biko.lv) joined ##slackware. [17:23] nix_chix0r, so what have you been doing lately? [17:23] i haven't seen you in a while... [17:24] edman007, i've been in illinois for the past 3weeks almost visitin my folks [17:24] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:24] all the cool peeps hang out in offtopic thats why im hardly here don't have slack questions [17:24] I hope the almost visit went almost well. [17:24] nix_chix0r, no, the cool people are in #defocus [17:24] duhhh [17:24] aspies maybe [17:25] awww [17:25] slacky2 (~slacky2@81-226-63-190-no179.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:25] edman007, you're not even in #defocus:P [17:25] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [17:25] yes i am... [17:25] i'm in a lot of places... [17:26] invite me to all so i can stalk you:) [17:26] nix_chix0r, /whois edman007 [17:27] yeah it only shows you in here [17:27] yeah ##slackware-offtopic is 1337-c00l [17:27] It's not stalking if you're invited. Or, if you're wacko. Ahem, we know someone like that. [17:27] thats right [17:28] nix_chix0r, #slamd64 #RadeonHD #mysql #gnash +#defocus ##slackware ##linux ##hardware ##electronics [17:28] 8~8~ [17:28] edman007: since ircd-seven, is only shows common channels [17:28] oh boy [17:28] Action: nix_chix0r joins them all [17:28] that is usually where i stay in, slamd64 and defocus is where i talk... [17:28] adrien, ahhhh [17:28] oh those are kinda lame chanels [17:29] slamd64 is nice and quite though, just soul_keeper, oneforall, and sometimes powtrix [17:29] quiet [17:30] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [17:31] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-217-188.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:31] ikhider, this is painful. I'm on 3 machines and I've downloaded the files across two because I forget which Screen window I'm on.... [17:32] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-217-188.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:32] rirombo (~rirombo@h113.187.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:33] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-206-155.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:33] yeah the wait to get voiced in defocus is unreal [17:33] ikhider (~ikhider@CPE00226b4dc6c8-CM001868522c6c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:33] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-206-155.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:33] nix_chix0r, if you donate you get the mask for no wait [17:33] the wait is for an op to ping the bot... [17:34] i've been in there before you'd think they'd recognize. but i think its because my hostmask is diff [17:34] I'm FINALLY compiling audacity 64bit [17:35] nix_chix0r, eir is the bot, it will manually voice all when told to do so, otherwise only voices those with masks [17:35] hTHrthRHJHand I've downloaded t [17:35] darn kid [17:35] ====\ [17:35] arg [17:37] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [17:38] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:38] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Quit: FSF Free Software Foundation [17:39] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:39] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.99) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:40] fxer (~fxer@c-6c00e255.165-500-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [17:41] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:45] arfon_, is audacity actually 64bit or is it the 32bit version on a 64 system? [17:45] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:45] crunchpotato (~cold@193-126-149-49.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:46] nevermind, just found the information [17:46] nachox (~Ignacio@9-99-235-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [17:48] ikhider, you there????? [17:49] well crap, I finally got it build and he's gone [17:50] edman007, i still has no voice [17:50] its been a half hour [17:50] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:51] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [17:51] nix_chix0r, well i'll just watch BSG and you will have voice when i'm done :) [17:52] Shonudo, I know you answered your own question but, let me say this, it built 64bit on my machine [17:53] bacal (~default@cpe-66-91-186-113.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:53] edman007, doubt it:P [17:53] arfon_, how? [17:54] (i just went to the audacity site and rummaged around for an answer... according to the info there, there is a 32bit that works on 64bit) [17:54] that didn't sound right: there is a 32bit AND it works on 64bit [17:55] bacal (~default@cpe-66-91-186-113.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:56] arfon_: why do you not just use my package for audacity? [17:57] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:57] it is 64 /usr/bin/audacity: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [17:57] arfon_ (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:58] thanks, powtrix [17:58] compiled for target x86_64 of course [18:00] shonudo, http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/audio/audacity/ [18:01] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [18:01] And http://slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/audacity/pkg64/13.1/ too for an actual package (build script too of course) [18:02] alienBOB: another bot ^^ Ansa89 [18:02] Action: powtrix points shonudo ^^ [18:02] so why didn't arfon use the packages? [18:02] seems like the work is all done [18:03] j0z_ (unix@189.58.5.86.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[18:11] can somebody help me: As soon as I connect to a VPN I should get an IP like 192.168.0.xxx but I'm getting 192.168.177.xxx. That's a configuration error at the server or is there something I can do wrong? I'm connecting with pptpclíent... [18:13] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-104-221.w109-212.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:14] Hi [18:14] I've got a problem with my audio card (00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)) [18:14] All the channels are at 100%, unmute but I have no sound [18:14] any ideas ? [18:15] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7F065.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:18] Srbo: you are probably receiving your IP via DHCP talk to your DHCP admin [18:19] Kevin` (~kevin@rrcs-67-52-47-69.west.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:19] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. 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[18:31] good cause if its done and i still have no voice ima leave [18:31] woh3 (~will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [18:31] Teratogen (leontopod@intertwingled.net) left irc: Changing host [18:31] Teratogen (leontopod@unaffiliated/teratogen) joined ##slackware. [18:31] daniel_s (~daniel_s@188-194-153-115-dynip.superkabel.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:32] juice (1000@67.48.16.165) joined ##slackware. [18:32] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.18.117.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:33] Destructo (~applecore@12.232.59.217) joined ##slackware. [18:33] hey hey all [18:35] http://www.cs.utah.edu/~mflatt/bumpy/minor.html <== Destructo here! [18:36] damn im using a osc irc client .. it su cks.. [18:36] osx [18:37] Destructo (~applecore@12.232.59.217) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:42] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:44] destructo (~destructo@12.232.59.217) joined ##slackware. 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[18:55] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.156.251) joined ##slackware. [18:56] tekzilla (~jon@c134136.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:56] tekzilla (~jon@c134136.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [19:03] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [19:03] thumbs (1000@unaffiliated/thumbs) joined ##slackware. [19:05] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:06] BP{k}: can you invite me, please? [19:07] thumbs: to...? [19:07] BP{k}'s love nest? [19:07] never mind, Thanks. [19:07] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:08] thumbs: sorry saw that a bit late .. was looking that the other screen [19:08] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:08] BP{k}: I can do it myself, too. But I wasen't thinking [19:09] jgeboski (~jgeboski@97.72.86.194) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:11] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [19:11] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [19:12] Action: jg71 invites thumbs to #slackbuilds hrhrhr [19:13] m3tti_ (~harlekin@p57B7CB88.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:14] jg71: already in there! [19:14] my plan is foiled. [19:16] wasn't much of a plan to begin with :D [19:16] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:16] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7F065.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:16] oh Necos you dont know the half hash of it ;) [19:17] no, as a matter of fact, i knew all of it :P [19:17] destructo (~destructo@12.232.59.217) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:18] Necos: know about what? 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[19:42] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [19:42] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [19:43] rirombo (~rirombo@h113.187.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [19:46] nvision (~nvision@g225054066.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:49] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420255.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:49] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.233.214) joined ##slackware. [19:51] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.22) joined ##slackware. [19:52] jgeboski (~jgeboski@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [19:52] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:00] Hrm... I keep feeling I need to sit down and learn Perl instead of putzing around with tcl or scsh or bash :\ [20:03] learn perl then :P [20:04] The problem is, I don't want to :D [20:05] shiet, perl is awesome :P [20:06] Nick change: _Lucifer -> Yandertal [20:06] it's old too [20:07] mk_ (~10@187.65.71.148) left irc: Quit: EPIC5-1.1.2[1638] - amnesiac : The fatter they are, the fatter they fall [20:08] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:08] crunchpotato (~cold@193-126-149-49.net.novis.pt) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:09] blah [20:09] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [20:10] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:10] roflmao [20:10] Action: Necos stabs jg71 [20:10] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.233.214) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:10] Pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@adsl-68-92-124-172.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:11] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:11] you're using an OS built on core concepts developed in the 60's and you complain PERL is old? LOL [20:12] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:12] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:12] c must be ancient - can't use that. and assembly is positively antediluvian [20:12] of course [20:13] dont tell that to peter norton, NyteOwl [20:13] he reads assembler poems to find sleep [20:13] By your definiton of old It's true :) [20:13] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.233.214) joined ##slackware. [20:14] And peter Norton lost my respect when he dumped some of the best Windows software on the market into the hands of one of the worst code butchers around, ie Symantec [20:15] GrooveDroid (default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:16] Norton used to be good.. [20:16] Symantec is synonymous with cruft in certain circles. [20:16] cruft is being polite [20:16] Action: rirombo fondly remembers NC on super-fast 286 with 20MB HDD and EGA monitor [20:17] rirombo, i share that memory [20:17] Anybody here use mc regularly? [20:17] heh, yeah [20:17] 8086 ;) [20:17] chance22: yeah, me. [20:17] mc is awesome [20:17] tho these days i copy way too much for mc to handle. rsync ftw. [20:19] atof (~atof@124.107.144.2) joined ##slackware. [20:19] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [20:19] i like the newer versions of mc tho... now they support full globbing lol [20:21] heard mc dev took up again lately. good. [20:22] omegageek (rooot@69-165-139-158.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [20:22] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [20:24] Razec (~razec@187.34.27.212) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:26] yeah, it needed a facelift [20:27] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.34.149) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:27] hiptobecubic (john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left ##slackware ("For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint."). [20:29] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [20:29] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.34.149) joined ##slackware. [20:31] Dominus (default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [20:32] Nick change: Dominus -> Guest11978 [20:33] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Client Quit [20:33] dafydd (~dafydd@173.181.30.132) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:34] hrm... syncing a palm pilot... i have tried for about year, never been able to get it to work.... and all the help files and readme txt are about 3 years or older... i do not think the stuff on there is as difficult as it suggests [20:35] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [20:35] opensync is made for that stuff [20:36] im using pilot-link [20:36] Guest11978 (default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:37] Razec (~razec@187.34.25.146) joined ##slackware. [20:37] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:37] never used that one [20:37] well, it ships with slackware [20:38] but i have never beenable to get it to work [20:40] TClayton (~tony@184.1.70.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:40] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:42] oh, might want to look at opensync and kontact [20:42] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [20:42] TClayton (~tony@184.1.70.195) joined ##slackware. [20:42] sinuhe (~sinuhe@12.30.224.2) joined ##slackware. [20:43] Hi KaMii, did you solve your touchpad/click problem? [20:47] TClayton (~tony@184.1.70.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:48] Guest11978 (default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [20:49] TClayton (~tony@184.1.70.195) joined ##slackware. [20:49] j0z_ (unix@200.146.9.172.dynamic.dialup.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:49] j0z_ (unix@200.146.9.172.dynamic.dialup.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [20:49] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [20:52] fxer (~fxer@c-6c00e255.165-500-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [20:54] ya i did [20:54] now im trying to get my palmpilot to sync [20:54] palm centro [20:55] I never got my palm to sync either, I gave up about 5 years ago [20:56] pilot-xfer -l -p usb: [20:56] just says listening... but after i hit the hotsync button, nothing ever happens [20:57] I'm sorry, I wish I could help. I just haven't kept up with it in several years. [20:57] ya i been trying for a year... never got it to work [20:58] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.41.171) joined ##slackware. [20:58] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [20:58] but now that im totally switched over to slackware (killed OS X finally) i kinda need hotsync [20:58] and i have no bluetooth, so that option is out [20:59] Did you take a look at opensync, like Necos suggested? [20:59] no, not yet [20:59] but maybe i will [20:59] if its just a sync program it might be good [21:00] I would have to find a new cradle to get mine working again, since my dog chewed mine up years ago. [21:01] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:01] tuxdev_ (~tim@ip98-171-169-141.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:01] tuxdev_ (~tim@ip98-171-169-141.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Changing host [21:01] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [21:06] Pecado (~pecado@189.11.191.73) joined ##slackware. [21:07] Pecado (pecado@189.11.191.73) left ##slackware. [21:08] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.41.171) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:10] compiling sqlite [21:10] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.2.193) joined ##slackware. [21:10] har (~AndChat@166.133.195.168) joined ##slackware. [21:10] then i will compile swig, then opensync [21:10] :S [21:11] weeee :) [21:14] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.2.193) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:15] then i need the plugins [21:15] Any suggestions for a regex application to display what is being found actively while typing? [21:15] geez, my computer is going to blow up i know [21:15] at least i am getting better (i think) at editing SlackBuilds for Slackintosh [21:17] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.2.193) joined ##slackware. [21:17] nokia3510 (~nokia@fedora/nokia3510) joined ##slackware. [21:17] kingbeowulf (~kingbeowu@c-71-59-193-120.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:19] wtf.... emacs twitter.el has a HUGE memory leak [21:19] 3 gigs [21:20] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.2.193) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:20] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [21:20] Necos (~tessai@dynamic-oit-vapornet-c-392.Princeton.EDU) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:22] I don't spend a lot of time programming. I think valgrind is useful for finding memory leaks. [21:22] AFK for beer run. BRB [21:22] bring me some chance22 [21:23] i know nothing about programming [21:28] is there another package manager besides slackpkg ? [21:28] there are quite a bit [21:29] apt, yum, portage all come to mind [21:29] I just chose option O for replacing old with newer config files, but nothing seemed to happen [21:30] was it supposed to be Upper Case O ? [21:30] hi thrice` [21:30] I don't mean in general, but for slackware [21:30] nokia3510, does 'find /etc -iname "*.new" ' show you any new config files? [21:31] it's package management is somewhat new to me and I'd like to learn it [21:31] to have a broader understanding on the major linux distro's package management that is [21:33] thrice`: nope, that's why I thought I messed up the cases [21:33] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:33] nope, that means it worked I think :) [21:34] ah, yes [21:34] I should've searched for .orig files [21:34] and there are a few X related [21:35] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:35] you can always rerun slackpkg --new-config to have it research. [21:35] thrice`: two more Q if you don't mind [21:35] thanks stinky [21:35] nokia3510, sure :) [21:37] there are quite a few files in /var/log/packages but afaik there are not the ones I upgraded. I'd rather say there're the files that were used for this install. Is there a reason for keeping it ? [21:37] yes [21:37] you want to keep /var/log/packages [21:37] they do contain the upgraded packages [21:37] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.2.193) joined ##slackware. [21:37] but more, they have lists of files that the packages contain in them [21:37] gm152 (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [21:38] Nick change: WireWulf -> Wulf-is-not-here [21:38] so, you can very nicely determine a) if a package is installed, b) which files it contains, c) when it was last installed/upgraded, etc [21:38] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:38] nokia3510: if you want to un-install packages that didn't come with slackware you can use slackpkg --clean-system if you like. [21:38] well, I can't spot one of those lists to be frank [21:38] (try to use cat /var/log/packages/bash* for example) [21:38] nokia3510, what do you mean? [21:39] there are just various packages, albeit without .deb or .rpm as suffixes [21:39] slackware uses .txz packages [21:39] just keep in mind that when you do --clean-system it automatically marks all non base slackware packages for removing.. so you will need to unmark each one and select only the ones you want to remove. [21:40] nokia3510, so, when you install some slackware package (say, bash), it will plop a log in to /var/log/packages/bash-blahblah that contains some useful info [21:41] cristianmanuel (~quassel@190.228.110.180) joined ##slackware. [21:41] har (~AndChat@166.133.195.168) left irc: [21:41] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:41] I see, so there are just logs after all [21:42] nokia3510, yes, but slackware's tools depend on them, so leave that dir alone [21:42] it tricked me into believing it might be actual packages, with didn't make any sense [21:42] I was just browsing now through var/cache/packages [21:43] that is where packages are downloaded by slackpkg for install [21:43] ah, ok. nope, just text files in /var/log/packages/ ; kinda like the database the package manager will use [21:43] they are removed though afterward [21:46] xovan (~chatzilla@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:46] ok, thrice` & stinky thanks for your explanations. I'll be asking more questions in the future as Slack is by far the most unknown linux distro to me (besides gentoo that I had a very bad experience with ages ago and didn't bother trying it again :D) and I try to leverage my knowledge across the major distros, for future reference :) [21:47] nokia3510, it's not so bad. every distro does the same thing, mostly just package management that is different these days [21:48] thrice`: good catch: "mostly" [21:49] i see no reference of pam in /et [21:49] c [21:49] there is no pam! [21:49] :) [21:50] Like Forest Gump says.. one less thing to worry about. ;) [21:50] i see, but wonder why [21:50] is it something else instead ? [21:50] i won't say it seems to be on a first look [21:50] depends :> what for? [21:51] Razec (~razec@187.34.25.146) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:51] whats the xbmc problem with no SSE2? [21:51] If it aint broke.. [21:51] ya [21:51] figured that. [21:51] rabbitear: wasn't directed at you. [21:51] it fits [21:52] ay [21:52] some people do not have SSE2 in the cpu [21:52] anywayz, will try tomorrow [21:52] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488F59A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.2.193) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:52] KaMii: I actually got Guinness Stout. I hope that's okay. [21:53] thrice`: Pluggable Authentication Modules I'd say :) [21:54] Action: nokia3510 falls back to elearning [21:54] Can anybody recommend a good bash scripting tutorial? [21:55] nokia3510, right :> I just meant, it's "replacement" depends on the task [21:56] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:56] goj (~goj@p5488F719.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:56] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:56] chance22: whatever tut you find, be sure to check out bash pitfalls [21:57] jg71: Could you elaborate? [21:57] chance22: shellfu is good for some scripting too. Just remember don't use regular expressions to parse html. I learned that the hard way. [21:57] yes. search for bash pitfalls [21:57] f.e. dont parse the output of ls [21:57] bash pitfalls, !regex for html...got it. [21:59] jg71: I'll look out for that, thanks. Thanks xovan for the pointer to shellfu. [21:59] xovan: shell-fu.org? [22:00] yep [22:00] xovan: Nice, thanks. [22:02] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@75-132-181-155.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:03] why not parse html with regular expressions? or, do you really mean "parse"? [22:03] Razec (~razec@187.34.17.162) joined ##slackware. [22:03] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-153-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:04] you can't use regex to read html documents [22:04] however you can use it to rip the text right out [22:04] ut: he means removing all the html tags [22:04] :p [22:06] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@75-132-181-155.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:06] Nick change: nixchix0R -> nix_chix0r [22:11] boojit (~boojit@gw.carter.to) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:11] boojit (~boojit@gw.carter.to) joined ##slackware. [22:14] man mutt [22:14] doh [22:14] too many stouts [22:16] ncrypthic (~ncrypthic@118.96.10.181) joined ##slackware. [22:16] ncrypthic (ncrypthic@118.96.10.181) left ##slackware. [22:16] ncrypthic (~ncrypthic@118.96.10.181) joined ##slackware. [22:17] Speaking of mutt, I'd like some opinions of mutt vs. thunderbird [22:17] mutt sucks less. :) [22:18] sinuhe: Okay, slightly objective opinion there =) Gimme something more concrete. [22:19] I haven't used thunderbird, but I used to use the mozilla mail client. I find mutt more powerful/configurable/whatever. I like reading text mail. I like editing a file and then letting mutt do its thing rather than twiddling with widgets. Mutt just suits my style better. Still subjective, but some details, I guess. :) [22:20] You know, I was so against doing a full install, since it will add all that junk and so on and so forth, yet I'm finding that every day I install a package or two that I'm missing and end up needing (like bind for dig and nslookup!) [22:20] slakmagik: Thanks for that. How does mutt handle html, images, gpg, etc.? [22:20] Excellently? Just set up MIME handlers and boom, you can view images and stuff. [22:20] chance22: it doesn't. [22:20] rirombo: Minimalism is a good thing, as far as I'm concerned. [22:20] html *can* be viewed by using an external client - I have it open lynx when I have to - and it can be made to autoview. Ditto with thge images. [22:21] And I use w3m or elinks to dump HTML emails, which also works well [22:21] yeah, rirombo was more concise. [22:21] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [22:22] chance22: there's a #mutt where you can probably get more responses - I guess there must be something for tbird, too [22:22] though those would naturally be even more biased each way ;) [22:24] slakmagik: At the risk of advocating going off-topic in ##slackware, I trust the experience and opinions of the folks here on any subject as opposed to getting the opinions of people who are fans of tbird or mutt specifically. [22:24] chance22: I feel the same way, actually. Folks in ##slackware are great :) [22:25] ##slackware for president [22:25] yeah - I just mentioned them as possible additional resources - not in place of here :) [22:29] sinuhe (~sinuhe@12.30.224.2) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:29] lol [22:35] people in ##slackware will even help you on ubuntu and other non slackware linuxes! [22:35] if you dont tell them its not slackware [22:35] they are amazing! [22:36] EvanR: It has been brought to my attention that, at least in some countries, ubuntu is a swear word. Ask KaMii some time. [22:37] bitchin [22:37] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [22:39] night all [22:39] nachox (~Ignacio@9-99-235-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:41] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-112-188-139.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:41] Razec (~razec@187.34.17.162) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:41] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@75-132-181-155.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:43] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@75-132-181-155.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Disconnected by services [22:43] Nick change: nixchix0R -> nix_chix0r [22:43] ncrypthic (~ncrypthic@118.96.10.181) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:43] pilipo (~pilipo@203.177.147.86) joined ##slackware. [22:44] ncrypthic (~ncrypthic@118.96.10.181) joined ##slackware. [22:44] atof (~atof@124.107.144.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:45] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-112-188-139.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:46] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [22:46] hey guys [22:46] strange problem in my pc I need to shutdown improperly just to work my audio, i'm using 13.1 64bit [22:47] ncrypthic (~ncrypthic@118.96.10.181) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:47] well after a few days of playing I got the art of radeon kms down, but wondering if anyone has heard any pros and cons on it, if it's pretty safe to use now in 34.1? [22:47] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:49] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) joined ##slackware. [22:50] jjholt (~matt@cblmdm72-240-21-44.buckeyecom.net) joined ##slackware. [22:50] I have a Pentium 4 Prescott based system it had heat issues, I pulled the processor reseated it replaced the thermal paste. I noticed when cleaning the old paste off some of it seemed to be almost baked on. I am thinking the chip is cooked. system powers on but is black no beeps [22:51] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:51] A dead motherboard is unlikely so I am left with it being a dead processor unless someone else has any suggestions [22:52] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [22:52] is it having issues? [22:52] atof (~atof@58.69.181.2) joined ##slackware. [22:52] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:54] before the system intermittently have this issue where it would power on but not post [22:54] jjholt: sounds dead enough to me [22:54] that is before, and now? [22:55] now it hasn't posted [22:55] even after several power cycles [22:55] is very possible it is toast. I would definately verify both the CPU and the motherboard using alternate hardware [22:56] yeah thats what I thought leaning toward processor since I have never seen artic silver cooked on to a chip before [22:57] atof (~atof@58.69.181.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:59] who was it that told me to get opensync? [22:59] atof (~atof@58.69.181.2) joined ##slackware. [23:01] vldmr (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:03] j0z_ (unix@189.114.234.122.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:03] j0z_ (unix@189.114.234.122.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [23:03] j0z_ (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [23:03] KaMii: It was necos [23:05] ncrypthic (~ncrypthic@118.96.11.122) joined ##slackware. [23:06] this program is worse than the other one [23:06] ffs [23:07] and half of the howto pages on getting syncing to work are soooo incrediby complex and they want me messing with kernel and everyother damn system.. no way i am doing that [23:07] i think half these people writing howtos have no idea what they are doing [23:07] seroiusly it cannot be this hard [23:07] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:08] but i have yet to find a webpage out there that can easily expalin anything [23:08] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [23:08] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [23:10] anyone by chance using or know someone using a Dell Zino HD? [23:10] wondering if it might be a good little pc for $249 [23:12] I'd buy it because its at $249, those run about $300. [23:13] user0 (~user0@adsl-99-141-235-7.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:14] ganeshix (~ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:15] Cnet says its gfx sucks [23:16] despite it being hd [23:16] well I have this hd3200 in my laptop that I'm sitting here chatting on, so I would of thought it's the same [23:16] sucks in what context? it's not a gaming rig. [23:16] lenovo lifepad is going for $250 [23:17] it's essentially the same [23:17] ahh let me look [23:17] personally I'd rather have that then a Dell [23:17] almost all netbooks are the same inside [23:17] LOL, never been a Dell fan [23:17] nyRednek: you know anything about palm hotsync and linux? [23:17] in the context of it's choppy on standard def video [23:17] Yers, I'd prefer lenovo to Dell [23:17] KaMii: with pilot-xfer, yeah [23:18] well pilot-xfer didnt find anything [23:18] just sat there waiting [23:18] KaMii: it doesn't *find* anything, you have to know which port it is [23:18] KaMii: is it serial or usb? [23:18] usb [23:18] is the lifepad a laptop? [23:18] KaMii: try --port /dev/ttyUSBXX XX being 0 and up [23:19] I don't want a laptop the ZIno isn't... [23:19] Xgates: it's a netbook [23:19] nokia3510 (~nokia@fedora/nokia3510) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:19] nahh don't want a netbook or laptop need something for the home... [23:19] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: œ¿»Î½ »±²­ [23:19] hello all [23:20] Xgates: oh, i don't remember if the aptiva series is still being produced by *any* company [23:20] atof (~atof@58.69.181.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:20] Xgates: but i've seen systemax systems...they're pretty good [23:20] nyRednek: that command doesnt make sense [23:20] its not working [23:21] aptiva that's old lol [23:21] Xgates: so is presario, yet new hardware still bears the name [23:21] KaMii: ok, try using jpilot, then [23:22] KaMii: oh, and you have to give your user account write access to the port that the palm is on [23:22] i did, well i thought i did [23:22] and jpilot dont work either [23:22] and neither did opensync [23:23] do you have the visor handspring module in the kernel? [23:23] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [23:23] KaMii: that means you haven't found the port and/or didn't give the user write access [23:23] nothing works [23:23] i loaded visor module [23:23] shonudo: that isn't necessary for a hotsync [23:23] vcampos (~vcampos@unaffiliated/vcampos) joined ##slackware. [23:23] argggg i dont know what to do [23:23] nyRednek, i thought it was... it's the only way i got mine to work [23:23] shonudo: i've *never* needed that module [23:24] hmmm... good to know [23:24] KaMii: ls -l /dev/ttyU* [23:24] so you just use k or jpilot and it works? [23:24] and pastebin that back to me [23:24] shonudo: no, i use pilot-xfer [23:24] i've never used that [23:24] i'll look it up [23:24] shonudo: i've used jpilot, but i prefer a command line [23:24] blah root root [23:25] i guess i did it wrong [23:25] Action: KaMii sucks at chowning and chmodding an blah [23:25] KaMii: i need to see the devices, not just "blah root root" [23:25] KaMii: chmod 666 it [23:25] KaMii: then try [23:25] /dev/ttyUSB0 [23:26] KaMii: pilot-xfer --port /dev/ttyUSB0 --sync *wherever you want to save your backup copy* [23:26] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.18.117.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:27] The IdeaCentre Q Series would be nice if it came with Win7 [23:27] darn Vista crap LOL [23:27] ya.. same shyte different day... listening for incoming connecton [23:28] but nothing ever happens [23:28] KaMii: you also have to tell the palm to hotsync [23:28] on the palm's software [23:29] i did [23:29] nothing ever happens [23:29] it just sits there waiting for a connectoin [23:29] KaMii: well, if you were close to me, i'd drive over and fix it for you once [23:29] i wish you could, i have been trying for a year to get this to work [23:29] it hates me [23:30] nyRednek, weren't you working on getting palm desktop running? [23:30] how did that go? [23:30] shonudo: i gave up on it [23:30] what else can i try? [23:31] shonudo: is ttyUSB0 the only ttyUSB? [23:31] KaMii: ^^\ [23:31] no, nyRednek, i don't think so [23:31] shonudo: wrong chars in it [23:32] hang on, let me see how i'm setup [23:32] shonudo: i meant that for KaMii [23:32] try ttyUSB0 AND (AND) ttyUSB1 [23:32] --port /dev/ttyUSB1 [23:32] try that instead of ttyUSB0 [23:33] jjholt (matt@cblmdm72-240-21-44.buckeyecom.net) left ##slackware. [23:33] shonudo: were she on staten island, i'd just drive over there, fix it, "there", then drive home [23:33] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: Quit: .. [23:34] xovan (~chatzilla@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.4/20100622203045] [23:34] create the necessary "devs" -- #/bin/mknod /dev/ttyUSB0 c 188 0 #/bin/mknod /dev/ttyUSB1 c 188 1 [23:34] that should work, KaMii [23:34] Zaythan (~zaythan@ip68-1-71-150.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:34] hey Zaythan [23:35] howdy! :) [23:35] nyRednek, "slackware island" ... that would be sweet [23:35] :) [23:35] O i'd so go [23:35] lol [23:35] shonudo: well, we neen more slackers here [23:35] shonudo: about 250k, then we'd essentially take over [23:36] let's start recruiting [23:36] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:36] the slackware army [23:36] s/neen/need [23:36] shonudo: heh [23:36] veritos (~koenig@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:36] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-70-112-188-139.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:36] shonudo: what would be the main infantry weapon? windows 95 cd's? [23:36] lmao [23:36] hahah [23:36] How do I disable the timeout that turns off the backlight after 10 or so minutes [23:37] ? [23:37] KaMii, did the above help (did it even make sense)? [23:37] veritos: it's in the pilot's settings [23:38] nyRednek: i smell a hint of snark [23:38] i mean for a laptop's LCD monitor, sorry [23:39] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [23:39] hmmm are you using a Desktop envirnment?? [23:39] veritos: console? or X? [23:39] i did those devs things a long time ago [23:39] did nothing [23:39] hi [23:39] gbonvehi: on 13.1 intel, it's both [23:40] thanks to kernel mode setting [23:40] KaMii, you did both usb0 and usb1 [23:40] ?? [23:40] and i have tried usb0 and usb1 in j-pilot [23:40] didnt work [23:40] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.100.166) joined ##slackware. [23:40] hmmm... [23:40] not sure why it would work in pilot-xfer [23:40] pisser... getting a palm to sync isn't the easiest thing to do [23:40] but it's do-able [23:41] i have tried it on 2 different compters [23:41] never will palms work [23:41] they hate me [23:41] and so you purchase them because? [23:41] veritos: dunno then :/ [23:41] like a gf wouldn't do? [23:41] its not windoze [23:41] you can get a gf to hate you... [23:41] KaMii: are you perchance anywhere near nyc? [23:41] Action: KaMii is in sweden [23:41] figabo (~MacOSX@201.164.205.137) joined ##slackware. [23:42] KaMii: sorry...can't do that for yas [23:42] I suppose that I could just run a cron job to use write to /sys to set the brightness to full every five minutes [23:42] KaMii, hell, you cover the airfare, i'll be there in 10 hours [23:42] u wish [23:42] i do [23:42] lol [23:42] rabbitear (~juice@74-61-119-99.anc.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [23:44] KaMii, try this: ln -s /dev/ttyUSB1 pilot (or ln -s ttyUSB1 pilot) ln -s /devttyUSB1 palm (or ln -s ttyUSB1 palm) [23:44] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [23:44] why usb1 when it only shows usb0 [23:44] that "may" be the missing link (literally the "link") [23:45] so 1 or 0 [23:45] KaMii, i'm going from my working setup [23:45] it's the way i learned to get this to work [23:45] so, it's just a thought [23:45] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [23:46] hopefully something that will make it work for you [23:46] veritos (~koenig@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:47] for 0 it says file exitsts [23:47] for 1 it didnt say anything when i tried it [23:47] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:49] you know, it took me forever to get mine to sync [23:49] i did use visor handspring module [23:49] i made the links above [23:50] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:50] ha i have visor handspring module loaded also [23:50] here's something i wrote in a note: "According to some HowTos, ttyUSB0 is generic, ttyUSB1 is HotSync" [23:51] well after those links, ttyUSB0 is no longer working [23:51] i get an error [23:51] after mknod, did you chmod 0666 for each ttyXXXX? [23:51] and now pilot-xfer wont bind to any port [23:52] hmmm... [23:52] yes i did [23:52] you really should fly nyRednek to sweden [23:52] it would solve everything [23:52] he can dream [23:52] anyone know any nice lightweight usenet clients? [23:53] pine [23:53] slrn [23:53] doenst pine do usenet? [23:53] Usenet [23:53] errr I don't want pine or a CLI app something GUI [23:54] GUI + lightweight? :O [23:54] Zaythan (~zaythan@ip68-1-71-150.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: [23:54] thats like saying you want Government intelligence [23:55] LottaNZB is one I know that might be the best... [23:56] xgates, can you use a web client? [23:56] seamonkey [23:56] where i can find slackbuild script for pidgin 2.7.1 ? [23:57] don't care for web clients [23:57] on the sbo website [23:57] KaMii: actually, no [23:57] am0rphis: check patches, its probably already updated [23:57] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.100.166) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:58] am0rphis: pidgin is part of slackware, iirc, so you use the slackbuild archive in the src directory, modify it for current version, and run [23:58] you can find pidgin scripts in the sources tree [23:58] ftp://slackware.oregonstate.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-current/source/xap/pidgin/ [23:59] isnt 13.1 already up to date on pidgin? [23:59] check patches first [23:59] no [00:00] --- Wed Jul 21 2010