[00:00] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:00] bye people [00:00] thepeng, google for the specs of your devices [00:00] thepeng: the stereo mics should work after playing with alsamixer [00:00] ug hand how come my 8gb patriot xporter stick which is supposed to be fast.. is much slower than a DVD drive? :-\ [00:00] thepeng: the webcam, google it [00:00] how come indeed... [00:01] that doesn't even make sense [00:01] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:01] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:01] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [00:02] myredneck, mancha: looking up the webcam now, would alsa mixer be a base package or do i need to go get it? [00:02] MLanden, intel [00:02] anyone in NY want a free AMD 64 Palermo 3400+ with a 512MB X1650Pro? [00:02] fwc: cali ok ? [00:02] i need one :( [00:03] pay shipping perahps [00:03] MLanden, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01) [00:03] Kumool: which intel? 8xx 9xx? [00:03] deco: gimme shipping, its yours haha [00:04] Kumool: try the legacy driver [00:04] I just gave some old systems to the homeless shelter in town [00:04] myrednek: the webcam is helpfully referred to as hp pavillion webcam with stereo mic [00:04] fwc: hmmmm no mony :P i'll pass [00:04] money* [00:04] deco: its missing the heatsink retention bracket though.. i have a heatsink, but no bracket, im not about to give away my 1.2KG copper cooler hahah [00:04] deco: :( [00:04] i figure its about time i got rid of all my single core machines [00:05] fwc: staten island... [00:05] found alsa-utils [00:05] everything freezes even the LEDs of the kb, and mouse buttons (pointer works tho) [00:05] so its buttons only... [00:05] fwc: probably some charitable organization in the are that could make use of such a machine, it is far from obsolete [00:05] s/are/area [00:06] twolf: just the motherboard/video card, and no heatsink retention bracket.. didnt think a donation place could make much use of it [00:06] and the monitor [00:07] nyRednek: ill probably be around Queens next week, if you want to take a little ride to grab it [00:07] fwc: sure, so long as it isn't tuesday [00:08] Kumool: you can try the xorg-intel-legacy driver....if that doesn't solve,you might have to roll back to 12.2.....had the same problem with the newer intel drivers(UXA/GEM vs XAA/EXA GlCore) [00:08] SiegeX (i=SiegeX@unaffiliated/siegex) joined ##slackware. [00:09] nyRednek: yeah, probably thursday or the weekend [00:09] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [00:09] fwc: that works... [00:10] if deco still wants it, i'll arrange shipping [00:10] sure, you can do whatever you want with it :D ill see if i have any DDR RAM laying around [00:10] random acts of kindness are good [00:11] [ installed ] - mesa-7.5-i486-2 steiger [00:11] i might have some 512 sticks or something [00:11] slakmagi1 (n=j@74.242.254.49) joined ##slackware. [00:11] nyRednek: nah , you take it [00:11] slakmagi1 (n=j@74.242.254.49) left irc: Client Quit [00:11] oh, slack13 doesnt do ext4 for installs? [00:12] slack13 uses ext4 as the default filesystem [00:12] deco: if i didnt lose my job a few weeks ago i probably wouldve paid for the shipping :P sorry :\ [00:12] fwc: oh hehe np :P [00:12] twolf: weird, setup is only giving me ext2/3/jfs/resier/xfs as options [00:12] fwc: did you get the iso from an official mirror? [00:12] twolf: oh crap i think i just realized why nvm [00:13] deco: ok...i'll just keep it for spare parts [00:13] gnight folks [00:13] twolf: im using the kernel from slamd 12.1 because the slack 13.0 kernel just froze early in the boot process [00:13] thepeng (n=master@m3a0436d0.tmodns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:13] ahh that sucks! [00:13] nyRednek: yeah that's cool [00:13] fwc: did you check the md5 of the slack iso? [00:13] twolf: actually, i did not.. i torrented it, figured it should do checksums [00:13] twolf: how do you check md5s again? [00:14] md5sum [00:14] fwc: md5sum [00:14] thanks, running.. :D [00:14] if you have the md5 file, you run md5sum on the md5 file and it verifies automatically [00:14] but yeah you would think bittorrent would take care of it [00:15] Kumool: you could try compiling the newer intel 2.9.0 as well(awesome with 2d apps, mixed results with some 3d apps) [00:15] if it was an official mirror [00:15] ugh i need faster drives [00:16] well MLanden which is? [00:16] s/well/_____ [00:16] MLanden, i think its 8xx [00:16] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:16] im thinking raid 0 1TB drives for mass storage, i think gigabit network speed exceeds the write speed of the drive :P [00:16] indeed [00:16] yeah md5s match [00:16] MLanden, i was thinking about it, ill try it and see, thx :) [00:16] fwc: did you burn the dvd full speed? [00:16] 8x on 16x media [00:17] fwc: where did you get the iso? [00:17] twolf: torrent? :P [00:17] Kumool: good luck....hopefully intel'll fix the results before the end of the year...:D [00:17] twolf: from slackware.com [00:17] I see [00:17] fwc: cause i've found that slowing down the burn below the drive's max increases reliability of the burn [00:17] very odd [00:17] nyRednek: yeah, i really dont think that its the problem, ill write the usb stick boot image after the install is done to verify though [00:17] ok... [00:18] nyRednek: i did just also burn the slamd iso at 8x, and it booted fine [00:18] fwc: not sure [00:18] really, not sure [00:19] but yeah, to be sure i will do the USB thing.. if it is a hanging problem, where should i report it? [00:19] fwc I have a similar setup, amd 770 with phenom II 550 [00:19] id hate to see someone else trying to run a phenom II/AMD 770 board run into the same problem and NOT know what theyre doing and say "slack sucks!" [00:20] MLanden, which is just around the corner :D, i didnt really think about rolling back tho but that might be better, thx again [00:20] twolf: hmm dunno, i couldnt think of much to fix it.. its a weird problem, i can say that all the kernel options i could think of didnt work (nolapic, noapic, nosmp, acpi=off) [00:20] Kumool: true....np [00:21] it is the first time ive ever seen the kernel hang like that without an error message or anything [00:21] fwc: yeah, lucky for me it just worked with slackware 64 [00:21] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.36.49) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:21] eh, it gave me something to do anyway [00:22] my main desktop has amd 790 and 965 cpu [00:22] man, easytag is amazing o_o;;; [00:22] yeah i have to buy a 790 board [00:22] im gonna buy a 790 AM2+ board.. i saw the 940 on sale for like $140 or something 3 months ago, too bad it wasnt a 945 [00:23] microcenter beat neweggs price by like $50, guess they were hoping people would buy a whole systems worth of components heh [00:23] the 965 is running stable at 4Ghz with air cooling just by increasing the multiplier [00:23] really nice [00:24] i got 225MHz bus stable, like 3.4GHz, i didnt even touch the multiplier.. couldnt get 230+ MHz though [00:24] 240 wouldve got my ram running at PC6400 speeds again :-\ [00:24] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [00:24] but i didnt touch the voltages any, and i just have a stock cooler on it [00:25] ill have a real go at overclocking it when i change motherboards, i dont feel like taking that one out just to put the coolermaster hyper 6 on it [00:25] the new stock coolers aren't bad with the copper [00:25] no, theyre not bad.. not great though, i was at 55-56c @ 3.4GHz [00:25] runs like 42c at stock clocks [00:26] although i just got an AMD 710 with a 790GX, and the 4th core unlocked and was stable.. didnt even bother trying to see if i could OC it at that point [00:26] fwc: what was average temp while compiling? [00:26] the zalman I got runs the 965 at 4Ghz at 35C, freaking awesome in my book [00:27] how does one get opengl extension headers? [00:27] sid77 (n=sid77@moko.slackware.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:27] neonflux (n=neonflux@209.19.58.106) joined ##slackware. [00:27] MLanden: its been running windows, its my gaming machine, but 55-60c under load [00:27] twolf: which zalman? [00:27] fwc: hold on, let me check the model number [00:27] twolf: thanks [00:27] fwc: ok..thanks [00:27] y^ (n=yano@164.107.116.179) joined ##slackware. [00:28] is there an IRC client for X with MDI? [00:28] fwc: here is the url from newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118046 [00:28] eclipse75 (n=tyler@adsl-99-57-221-80.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:28] y^ (n=yano@164.107.116.179) left ##slackware. [00:29] oh snap [00:29] twolf: ahh yeah that one is nice, i was looking at it last night [00:29] Action: eclipse75 hugs fwc [00:29] whyd i get a hug :P [00:29] im loving like that [00:29] i mean dont get me wrong, i love hugs [00:29] well fine then [00:29] fwc: when I got it there was a $20 rebate, luckily it arrived [00:30] twolf: ahh very nice [00:30] Kumool (n=Khwerz@66-50-86-186.prtc.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:30] oh crap [00:30] if im installing slack, and i have windows 7 installed.. anything special i have to do? hah [00:31] pray? [00:31] yeah, wipe windows 7 right on outta there. :P [00:31] heh [00:31] lol,twolf [00:31] hahah, i need my games! :) [00:31] hey twolf, how's it going? [00:31] dont worry, my other machines all run slack haha [00:31] hey fire|bird, going well here, how about you? [00:32] fwc: well ok then. :P [00:32] oh and, is there a way to get a 1920x1080 console? [00:32] twolf: great, thanks. [00:32] somehow i think a 4:3 resolution would look silly with a 16:9 monitor [00:32] fwc: it works fine for me [00:32] I got a mini-fridge under my desk now, well stocked with beer, rarely have to leave my desk [00:33] heh, what kind of brew? [00:33] salt: yeah, i run it on my 1680x1050 monitor.. but itd be cool if i could get the 1920x1080.. how do i fetch VGA modes? [00:33] I was working on a beer-geting-robot, gave up on that [00:34] twolf: if you ever want to pick up on that again, make it a bartending robot [00:34] eclipse75: right now we got NewCastle, PhatTire, and Guiness [00:34] text2gif is awesome [00:34] fwc: probably need to google that. [00:34] er wait, you have the fridge right under your desk and you want a robot to fetch beer? [00:34] haha k [00:34] heh nice selection, except for the fat tire :P [00:34] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [00:35] eclipse75: always good for backup...:D [00:35] nyRednek: I am still working on a robot, just a line following one for a compition [00:35] i need to get a computer desk with a fridge under it [00:35] lol MLanden [00:35] fwc: The standard VGA framebuffer supported max 1600x1200, IIRC. [00:35] NaCl: i didnt even think it was that high haha.. but yeah, theres an nvidia FB driver isnt there? [00:35] Azalyn (n=junon@modemcable003.2-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "In soviet windows, system operates YOU!" [00:37] fwc: yes, although it isn't too friendly with NVIDIA's drivers [00:38] NaCl: ahh yeah thats right, forgot about that [00:38] By "isn't too friendly", I mean it won't let you run them if the kernel nvidia framebuffer is built into the kernel [00:38] Action: NaCl wonders if there is a way to get it to switch framebuffers in real time [00:39] Azalyn (n=junon@modemcable003.2-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:39] Fat Tire is tasty. :P [00:40] godling: indeed, especially on tap [00:41] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:42] Naraku (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:43] welp time for doom playin [00:43] later [00:43] eclipse75 (n=tyler@adsl-99-57-221-80.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [00:43] we are all doomed [00:43] hmm ok so i have windows 7 installed on the main drive, XP on the second drive, and Slack also on the second drive, how should i setup lilo? [00:43] fwc: read lilo.conf [00:43] there are examples [00:45] isnt it easier to say 'put iton the MBR of the second drive' rather than 'read lilo.conf'? :P [00:45] Kumool (n=Khwerz@66-50-86-186.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [00:46] (##slackware) Channel ban on %Intel[R]VT-x!*@* expired. [00:46] ##slackware: mode change '-b %Intel[R]VT-x!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:46] well i mean, more helpful? doesnt it make you feel good to be helpful rather than "read an example thats utterly useless to you"? haha [00:46] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:46] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:46] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:46] does 7 act considerably different than previous versions? [00:47] twolf: what was the last version you used? [00:47] nooper: vista, but xp with lilo [00:47] Isn't it easier to Google "lilo with multiple drives" then try to make other people feel smaller because you're lazy? :P [00:47] fwc: well, you need it to be on mbr of primary drive to handle booting [00:48] I am grateful that xp runs well with qemu, that is the only windows I use these days [00:48] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-144-100.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:48] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [00:48] godling.. smaller? for chiding you for a crappy answer? :P [00:48] i did the MBR of the second drive O.o :\ [00:48] twolf: I've used qemu to run debian on mips [00:48] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-130-228.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [00:49] godling: What was the main OS you used for mips? [00:49] i mean, if youre not actually gonna be useful, you could just say nothing, atleast that saves you the trouble of writing the extended version of "RTFM" haha :) [00:50] pysisist or some such nick used to be in the process of porting slack to mips, haven't heard from him lately [00:50] MLanden: I was using qemu to emulate a mips machine and I ran debian on that vm. [00:50] MLanden: The system I was using was arch linux on this laptop [00:50] godling: gotcha....cool [00:50] whats the difference between a .a library and a .la library? [00:51] meh, I still had to end up using spim [00:51] am I still banned ? [00:51] yes , ban was removed [00:51] explore (n=msparker@pool-173-57-92-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:51] fwc: That's the whole purpose of admonishing someone, to make them feel small. [00:51] I did not say it worked. :P [00:52] godling: you mean, you tried to admonish me for asking a question rather than being helpful? :P [00:52] humans suck like that [00:52] I was being helpful, fwc. [00:53] There are useful examples in lilo.conf [00:53] if you believe that, i dont know what to say to you haha.. and no, the examples are not particularly useful [00:53] ive been using lilo since slack 3.4 :P my question was more is there anything special i have to do because of windows 7 [00:53] what boot loader would you use on mips? [00:54] which obviously, lilo.conf is not going to have any notes on. [00:54] mips? whatever bootloader the device could load [00:54] use the kernel. :P [00:56] nyRednek: qemu doesn't require a bootloader [00:57] godling: but doesn't qemu fully emulate a system? kinda like bochs? [00:57] I've never used bochs. [00:57] is a .a file the same format as a .la file? [00:58] godling: i've never used qemu [00:58] archiebenedict: no [00:58] just bochs [00:58] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:59] thank you [00:59] .a is a static library (archive), .la is a libtool archive [01:00] nachox (n=imarambi@190.216.26.210) joined ##slackware. [01:01] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:02] Azalyn_ (n=junon@66.131.130.147) joined ##slackware. [01:02] oh wait i mean, GOD CANT YOU JUST GOOGLE IT AND FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF [01:02] he needs jesus! [01:02] hahah [01:03] take care,folks...talk with all later [01:03] bye [01:03] see ya [01:03] MLanden (n=lilslack@pool-162-84-112-187.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:03] oh crap, RTL8111 doesn't have drivers in the kernel? [01:03] do i really want RealTek drivers? ugh [01:04] Azalyn (n=junon@modemcable003.2-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:04] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@173.60.119.54) joined ##slackware. [01:08] wow, has anyone ever seen setting multcount for IDE harddrives from 0 to 16 DECREASE the performance? [01:08] hdparm -m16 /dev/hda made me go from 33mb/s to 16.5mb/s O.o [01:09] eh maybe it was a fluke [01:09] dangerseeker (n=dangerse@p57A8DD6E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:16] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [01:17] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:21] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:22] Nick change: Kiboney -> ZombieRP [01:22] drunkenpaw (n=drunkenp@c-68-33-60-142.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:24] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:28] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [01:28] some scientists at ucla have found that using the internet enhances brain function (especially in elderly folks) [01:28] that's it - i'm never gonna quit irc'ing. [01:29] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:29] irc != internet :) at least according to that study [01:30] details details [01:31] lol [01:33] internets [01:34] Mr. Smith, drink your prune juice and remember you have a choice, surf the pr0n or risk further brain atrophy. Oh, and no more urinating in Mrs. Peabody's cat's litterbox. [01:35] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.74.105) joined ##slackware. [01:37] Nick change: jhw_ -> jhw [01:38] (The lights dim, silence falls, camera focuses on a somewhat dazed Mr Smith as the orderly exits stage left; transition to bingo room scene) [01:38] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [01:39] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [01:42] paissad-acer (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:44] Wescotte: but, irc = *Internet* Relay Chat. :P [01:44] i thought it was idiots really chat? [01:44] only if you're in #ubuntu [01:46] ahh yeah [01:46] haha my friends use ubuntu, and get mad when i make fun of it :\ [01:46] EKayFive (n=Paz@adsl-70-233-135-117.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:47] fwc: do they help spread the spirit of ubuntu ? [01:48] indeed, they get all giddy when theres ubuntu CDs at a LUG [01:48] lol [01:49] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [01:50] and i get yelled at by the LUG mailing list for saying its not worth the electricity to run a pentium 4 [01:51] Nick change: giuppy_ -> giuppy [01:51] and for advocating the use of nvidia binary drivers, and ati binaries over the open source stuff.. and they complain that they "dont get along well with ubuntus packaging system and are hard to use" aside from your usual anti-blob arguments:P [01:52] and im like.. packaging.. system? whats that? [01:52] the ati open source stuff is luckily working well here [01:53] ehh, really poor performance for a lot of the cards though [01:53] and i had no acceleration with my X1650Pro when i got it.. the whole reason i got that card was so i could use an open source driver [01:53] my laptop has a x1400, less than 3 years old, and they drop support, see if I buy ati gfx again [01:53] after that i gave up on that idea haha [01:54] neonflux (n=neonflux@209.19.58.106) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:54] aside from the fact that i had a 9500Pro, 9600Pro, two 9700Pros, and a 9800Pro fry on me [01:55] I'll buy a new thinkpad when they provide nvidia again [01:55] i was like.. cool i can run Alien Arena on Linux with open source drivers! .. yep, nope. that didn't work out, so the nVidia binaries have been working for me.. and for the same $50 i got a 96 core/192 bit 9600GSO which kicks the crap out of the X1650Pro with any driver [01:56] uhh weird O.o [01:57] Action: Urchlay looks around [01:57] hi [01:57] howdy [01:57] mount /dev/sdb /mnt/memory [01:57] mount: unknown filesystem type 'mdraid' [01:58] wtf? i mean.. i did make a raid with those usb sticks.. on the other hand, i also just dd'd /dev/zero to the usb stick. and repartitioned it [01:58] hey horns|slant [01:58] err Urchlay [01:58] where the hell is it getting mdraid from :P [01:58] you partitioned it? shouldn't you be trying to mount /dev/sdb1 or such [01:58] hey checklist|grappling [01:58] doh [01:59] er, /fire\|bird|phoenix\^/ [01:59] ok maybe i took too much vicodin for this headache :P [01:59] dcc me some vicodin [01:59] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:00] dcc me some dilaudid [02:00] lol [02:00] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. 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[02:31] <_MaggoT_> deco alienbob site got speed limiter?? [02:31] _MaggoT_: i don't know ... it's always fast for me [02:31] <_MaggoT_> deco :alienbob site got speed limiter?? [02:31] _MaggoT_: it might be the distance if it's slow for you [02:31] <_MaggoT_> i only got 14KB/s [02:32] oh that's bad [02:32] <_MaggoT_> :( [02:32] <_MaggoT_> yeah [02:32] _MaggoT_: where are you from ? [02:32] <_MaggoT_> indonesia [02:32] hmmmm [02:32] let me download something to check [02:32] <_MaggoT_> with adsl connection [02:33] _MaggoT_: i'm getting almost 200kB/s [02:33] <_MaggoT_> o_O [02:34] <_MaggoT_> ok thx deco maybe i need restart my modem again [02:34] _MaggoT_: ok np [02:34] _MaggoT_ (n=NewBie@125.166.211.235) left irc: [02:35] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:35] i just put myself into trouble...;) nice trouble though.. [02:36] heh what happened ? [02:36] boss told me i will do the research from now on [02:36] morning [02:36] trouble is that i will not be doing any technical jobs [02:36] slackytude: yo yo yo [02:36] he is afk i belive [02:36] but good part is that i will be doing research ;) on a computer..and i might tell him to allow me to use slackware [02:37] oh that's awesome :P [02:37] okay, thats virt-manager resubmitted [02:37] deco: yeah... i will try... i really cannot stand windows anymore [02:37] Zoubidda1a (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:37] The-Croupier: you're just gonna browse right ? [02:37] spook: thanks [02:37] deco: kind of [02:37] k [02:37] but mostly yes [02:38] anybody know how to tell xfce to display a window without borders or decorations? [02:38] browsing and getting infromation from some sites..putting them nicely in excel and presenting them to them [02:38] slackytude: you can't [02:38] slackytude: it follows the freedesktop thingy rules [02:38] slackytude: they belive it's up to the app [02:38] not the DE [02:38] well, alt+f11 works [02:38] who is Murat D. Kadirov > [02:39] spook: ? [02:39] slackytude: you can make terminal do that [02:39] also, kde can do it too [02:39] slakmagik: yeah [02:39] slackytude: * ^ [02:39] and fluxbox in some cases [02:39] openbox etc... [02:39] The-Croupier: why thank me? [02:40] im sure there was a way for xfce as well...;) slackytude, did you check the xfce site? [02:40] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [02:40] Nick change: shik4nt4z4 -> m4lik [02:40] Action: slakmagik snores, stirs, snores again [02:40] slackmagic: sorry to wake you up ... [02:40] you might be able to find some nice info there about decorations...i think alien_bob has some as well in the wiki..dont remember exactly [02:40] :) [02:40] Nick change: m4lik -> pri4pus [02:40] spook: for resubmitting [02:40] ;) [02:40] well, alt + f11 works for now [02:41] slackytude: quick-fixer :p [02:41] pri4pus (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: Client Quit [02:41] uh oh first time im compiling a kernel on a quad core box, this better be fast [02:41] The-Croupier: did you have an interest in virt-manager? [02:41] fwc: make -j 12 [02:41] fwc: make -j 5 [02:41] john_dee (n=id@93-81-138-69.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:41] i never got around to compiling on the server we built.. dual quad core opterons, i should start that thing up [02:41] i did -j8 [02:42] probably a bit excessive. [02:42] make -j -1 [02:42] muahahah [02:42] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.24.5) left irc: "Leaving" [02:42] hahah [02:42] ahh good old xfce [02:42] I feel better already [02:42] i love the asus motherboard we got that claimed it supported quad cores.. wouldnt boot, then no quad cores were in the cpu compatibility list :\ [02:42] stupid asus [02:42] had to get a tyan [02:43] slackytude: i'm using kde 3.5.10 :P [02:43] ok, kernels done, im impressed [02:43] haha [02:43] _MaggoT_ (n=NewBie@125.161.216.32) joined ##slackware. [02:43] fwc: what was the cost of something like that? [02:43] or if you feel like being evil to your machine... [02:43] make -j [02:43] eh under 3 grand [02:43] Action: The-Croupier runs [02:43] i have a q9450, its not bad. [02:44] just had two 320gb western digitals, 4gb of ram, and i forget what opterons we used [02:44] i think they were around 2.4ghz [02:44] pretty sure they were 45nm [02:44] 4x1gb registered sticks, 2 per cpu [02:44] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.40.138) joined ##slackware. [02:45] md0 : active raid10 sda1[0] sdd1[3] sdc1[2] sdb1[1] 1945615872 blocks 64K chunks 2 far-copies [4/4] [UUUU] [02:45] mernill (n=chatzill@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [02:46] ah yeah they were 2378s, 45nm shanghai 4x2.4GHz, they were almost $300/ea when we got them [02:46] arno__ (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [02:46] thing sounded like a jet when you started it up in the 1U case with all those 40mm fans :P [02:46] behold! thy god, .. no .. i rest my case :-) [02:46] Nick change: arno__ -> Arno[Slack] [02:46] <_MaggoT_> last day my slackware bcome freeze when i go compile some file [02:46] <_MaggoT_> when the compile checking gcc [02:46] thats bad [02:47] ienh (n=ienh@rennes.elikya.com) joined ##slackware. [02:47] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [02:47] maggoT what's your major problem with the compile? [02:48] <_MaggoT_> i dont know [02:48] mernill: not you again. [02:48] <_MaggoT_> because when compile my computer freeze and after i wait about 15 minute still freeze i go restart [02:48] strange.. maybe a user problem? [02:48] inspiron630 (n=name@c-24-10-163-100.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:48] <_MaggoT_> im trying install wine on slackware [02:48] what command do you run just before the freeze? [02:49] spook: why not :-) [02:49] _MaggoT_: you're not on slackware64 are you? [02:49] <_MaggoT_> ./configure $ARCH = x86_64 [02:49] <_MaggoT_> yes [02:49] im here to stay baby! [02:50] <_MaggoT_> now im at windows OS to finish all my download from alien bob site [02:50] _MaggoT_: i would suggest you setup your system as multi-lib, and compile wine for 32bit. [02:50] <_MaggoT_> after that i go back to slackware os [02:50] i doubt it's a system freeze (or at least hope), you should have another term open (if in X) or switch tty's if @ console [02:51] ok this may sound ridiculous, but why run wine instead of running windows in a VM? [02:51] and verify the system is alive, then you should be able to kill -9 the hung process. which by the sound of it is due to trying to compile a non-64 bit app on a 64 bit box [02:51] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:51] spook: i sort of resent your dislike of me.. how come this disregard of me as a person? [02:51] because wine is a lighter weight api implementation, if you don't need a full OS environment you run that - the footprint is a lot smaller [02:52] this is obvious though, or so i thought :) [02:52] i dont deserv this resent! [02:52] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@124.43.157.136) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [02:53] fair enough :) [02:53] ur prolly from poland :-P [02:53] uh oh, new kernel i just built.. just blank screens after "loading linux..." hahahah [02:53] mernill: you know what i thought you! were from poland O_O [02:53] are you ? [02:54] deco: sweden [02:54] im not from poland.. why do you think so. im from the UK. [02:54] there might also be logistical reasons, wine apps co-exist with other host apps, so file transfer is cp, with a vm, there is segregation (host vs guest). sure there are ways to transfer host<-->guest but it's an added complication not present for the wine case [02:54] mernill: i want you to meet a special friend of mine [02:55] mernill: he's from poland [02:55] since my language is so exellent! :-) [02:55] finally, for a legal windows vm, you need to buy a copy of windows, not so with wine. [02:55] mernill: goes by the name of winter [02:55] :D [02:55] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@173.60.119.54) left irc: "End Of Line" [02:55] but i am now going on and on... [02:55] morning :P [02:55] y0 Camarade_Tux [02:55] Camarade_Tux: grrr not you again [02:55] went to bed at 9pm, got out of bed at 9am :P [02:56] y0y0 [02:56] hey deco, fire|bird, slackytude :) [02:56] Camarade_Tux: :) [02:56] slackytude: How's it going? Back to xfce it appears. :P [02:56] who was running the 770 based AMD board? [02:56] phoenix^: aye, I is back [02:56] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [02:57] phoenix^: trying to customize a bit [02:57] phoenix^: what are you up to? [02:57] slackytude: Well welcome back to xfce. :) [02:57] mernill (n=chatzill@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]" [02:57] fwc, it was you with the slack13 boot problem right? did you finally boot the installer with a working kernel? [02:57] slackytude: http://omploader.org/vMmt4MQ [03:00] hmmmm, if I were to make a desktop screenshot right now, it'd look *exactely* like my 3-months old screenshot :P [03:00] fire|bird: you just killed me :P [03:00] I did? [03:00] Wow, I didn't even try. [03:00] phoenix^: so many special effects in your screenshot :P [03:00] :) [03:01] mancha: yeah i mounted the usbboot image from slack 13 + slamd12.1 and copied the slamd huge.s kernel into the slack13 image.. then dd'd it to a usb stick i had [03:01] ok, cleaning time [03:02] fwc, cool, and that worked? [03:03] mancha: yep [03:03] fire|bird: eh, very nice [03:04] this machine couldnt do that [03:04] at any reasonable speed [03:04] That screenshot is from my laptop [03:04] fwc, you should write that up (if you are so inclined). "howto: install slackware 13 using a different kernel" [03:04] phoenix^: Camarade_Tux check out my awesome desktop http://omploader.org/vMmt5Zg [03:04] having a nvidia with two monitors really sucks performance [03:05] deco: boring [03:05] mancha: sure, is there a place i can submit it to? [03:05] slackytude: ..... [03:05] s/boring/boring & old/ :P [03:05] deco: much better than fire|bird's :P [03:05] Camarade_Tux: indeed :P [03:05] slackytude: nouveau? =) [03:05] Camarade_Tux: haha [03:05] oh dunno, there is a wiki i think but i don't know (documentation isn't my forte). so when i make these recomendations i am actually projecting something i wish i did myself :/ [03:06] slacky: really? in what way? i haven't gotten around to 2-3 monitors with linux/nvidia [03:06] Camarade_Tux: WHAT?!?!?!? [03:06] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-212.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [03:06] mancha: haha :) [03:06] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:06] i've had 4 monitors with nvidia linux [03:06] :> [03:06] phoenix^: :) [03:06] oh yeah well I've had 14 [03:06] it was awesome [03:06] Action: _MaggoT_ still loading for look fire|bird desktop [03:06] ^ has slow internet [03:06] Action: godling is a horrible troll [03:07] Action: Camarade_Tux takes a monitor from spook, he won't even notice it with so many monitors -_- [03:07] fwc: I dunno. Its just that this dell machine feels so much slower than my old and trusty thinkpad [03:07] _MaggoT_: 1996 called, they want their Internet back. [03:07] Camarade_Tux: it was only for a short time. [03:07] I'll take godling's then :P [03:08] fwc, well whether you write it or not, glad it worked, and at least i know its not hard to do if i ever need to do something similar [03:08] phoenix^: no, it's simply that your desktop screenshot weighs 2MB -_- [03:08] I don't have a monitor. I have a cardboard box with a hole in the middle and some coconut shells taped to it [03:08] phoenix^: yeah what's up with that ? [03:08] .... [03:08] i'm still curious to know what borked on the default colonel though [03:08] take http://omploader.org/vMjZuNA which is 143KB -_- [03:08] <_MaggoT_> cool desktop fire|bird, now going to look deco desktop [03:09] slacky: hmm, what video card? [03:09] _MaggoT_: mine will load much faster [03:09] reallove (i=reallove@unaffiliated/reallove) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:09] mancha: yeah ill definitely write something, at the least ill post it on my site haha [03:09] fwc: some nvidia [03:09] Camarade_Tux: mine was only 77kb [03:09] <_MaggoT_> deco : yeah, already look [03:09] with those nifty dual monitor ports [03:09] <_MaggoT_> deco : simple desktop [03:10] btw, everybody using png, use optipng (slackbuild available), it usually compresses very well (>30% size decrease over convert) [03:10] slacky: just some nvidia eh? haha :D [03:10] _MaggoT_: yeah it's kde 3.5.10 so it's very old, fast and simple :P [03:10] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.68.185) joined ##slackware. [03:10] i thought png was a standard [03:11] slackytude: should tissue go with Kartons and Papier while sorting my litters? [03:11] I think he's talking about just a different tool [03:11] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-102.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:11] _MaggoT_: this was when i ran kde 4 http://slackwaregallery.org/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=1 [03:11] (a nice mix of bad english, bad german, bad french :) ) [03:11] PNG is a standard format, but it allows for varying levels of compression [03:11] yeah, different settings [03:11] inspiron630 (n=name@c-24-10-163-100.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:12] Link Directory (like in DMOZ) <- whats that? [03:12] just run optipng and have a look at its output, it tries different settings and tells you the best [03:12] Camarade_Tux: come again? [03:12] oh rly? i thought it just used zlib's algo [03:13] Camarade_Tux: that's pretty cool, since the best settings can vary according to image content - it usually takes alot of trial and error [03:13] Action: slackytude is looking at tiki wiki [03:13] mancha: http://optipng.sourceforge.net/pngtech/optipng.html [03:13] can i tiki your wiki ? [03:13] rk4n3: ^^ [03:13] i guess there might be ways to organize the chunks optimally [03:14] Camarade, thanks for the tip, hadn't heard of optipng [03:14] rk4n3: optipng managed much better than pngcrush for me: faster and better compression [03:14] cool [03:14] Camarade_Tux: hmmmm ill try it out when i develop a site :P [03:15] Nick change: alien_bob -> alienBOB [03:15] actually I tried to beat png compression with hilbert curves + lzma and almost got there (hilbert curves are a very very fast and simple step) [03:15] but I never managed to decode these images :D [03:15] heh [03:15] y0 rk4n3 [03:16] hey slackytude - how's things ? 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[03:17] Camarade_Tux: i'll waite for you [03:17] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [03:17] slackytude: bah, I'll still don't know how to sort my waste =/ [03:18] slackytude: I'm doing OK - new job is going well, can't complain much about money at the moment, so I guess things are pretty good [03:18] apple announced amazing Q3 earnings today, stock soared to $200 a pop. back to pre-recession levels [03:19] mancha: it was meant as a test for my implementation of a hilbert curve algorithm ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert_curve ), but I did that so quickly I'm not even sure I was reading my test image correctly [03:19] rk4n3: sounds good. [03:19] rk4n3: looks like you get more free time as well, you hang around here more often [03:19] yeah, I get to work from home alot at the new job :) [03:20] mancha: at least here, recession hasn't prevented people from living or buying computer stuff [03:20] rk4n3: sounds nice [03:20] Camarade, apple stock dropped to $78 at the height of the recession (circa Jan 09, i think) [03:20] rk4n3: stopped wearing pants already? [03:21] so $78 to $200 is a 156% return on investment in 10 months, not bad [03:21] mancha: hahaha :P [03:21] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders why he haven't bought any [03:21] slackytude: yep, cut-off sweatpant shorts all the way :) [03:22] it might have been feb 09, but anyways one of those two [03:22] I could have bought a hundred of them [03:22] not many more but that'd still make $12200 :P [03:22] had you bought 100 shares you'd have a nice $11,300 profit [03:23] oops, 12200, i turned 78 into 87 in my dislexic mind [03:23] dyslexic even [03:23] hehe :P [03:24] hmmm, there is an empty crisp box on my desk, I should bin it but if I do, I'll have nothing to preven my HDD from making the whole desk vibrate... [03:27] gah, this is crap [03:28] I want a borderless rdp window [03:28] and I wantz it now [03:29] all your borders are belong to me. :) [03:30] blarg [03:31] y0 Urchlay, still on [03:31] sorta [03:31] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:31] trying to teach myself to sing & play bass, it's going slowly [03:32] while on IRC? [03:32] impressive :P [03:33] no, taking a break from it [03:33] bah [03:33] all I do is sit pointless around at work [03:33] Sing and play bass *on* irc, now that'd be impressive. :P [03:33] slackytude: learn ocaml, you'll be using it soon :) [03:34] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-212.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:34] Id rather smear fish food on my private parts and dangle them over a pool with piranihas [03:34] or whatever [03:35] Emeau-cat (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-104-155.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:35] well I can sing, or play bass, but not both at once (yet) [03:35] bass + IRC would be easy if only I were a Hindu deity [03:35] that's a good start :) [03:35] slackytude: we'll see :P [03:35] Urchlay: Well, bass + irc, just get speech to text set up, what you say is what gets typed. :P [03:35] slackytude: Piranha don't jump. [03:36] godling: oh? [03:36] Emeau-cat (n=emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-104-155.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:37] phoenix^: all I usually say while playing is "dammit dammit dammit" whenever I miss a change... [03:37] haha [03:37] Camarade_Tux: WebGL is in Webkit nightlies now. :P [03:38] phoenix^: and mathml too ^^ [03:38] \o/ [03:38] mathml, aka the thing everyone was expecting and noone cares about :D [03:38] anymore that is [03:38] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:38] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:38] Man_of_W1x (n=wax@gualtiero.cs.unibo.it) joined ##slackware. [03:38] slackytude: Yes, and they are cowards to boot. :) [03:38] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@124.43.145.76) joined ##slackware. [03:40] hows things going there? [03:40] Action: The-Croupier bored of reading sites all the time... (and forgot the computer glasses :( ) [03:40] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@gualtiero.cs.unibo.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:41] I wanna go home [03:41] slackytude: are you not home?! [03:41] and its not even 10 am [03:41] no :( [03:42] click your heels together and say "there's no place like home!" [03:42] damn its nearly 11am here... and i need to be here till 5pm..and im bored already [03:42] Urchlay: lol [03:42] Urchlay: :( [03:42] The-Croupier: same here [03:42] except I have to run to the uni at 12:00 [03:42] like the red flash [03:43] cos I have a lecture where I have to be [03:43] then run back to work [03:43] *sigh* [03:43] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." [03:44] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-102.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:46] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "aa is for quitters" [03:46] dchmelik (n=d@66.243.232.25) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:46] a lecture [03:46] sounds more boring than work [03:46] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:47] depends on the topic! [03:48] I suppose [03:48] IT and society [03:48] its boring [03:48] ugh. Sounds likely to have a high bullshit content [03:48] and useless [03:48] yeppers [03:49] you should make "buzzword bingo" cards for everyone in the class [03:49] dchmelik (n=d@66.243.232.25) joined ##slackware. [03:49] its worse than that [03:49] you have to do a presentation on some topic [03:49] worse? What, the guy makes little finger-quotes while he says "information superhighway"? [03:50] so for the next few weeks I'll be listening to some idiotic presentation by some dude who has no clue and doesnt want to [03:50] oh joy [03:50] and have to do one too [03:50] he's not a professor? [03:50] no, the students have to present something [03:50] and write a protocol too [03:50] Oh, you meant another student. [03:50] yes [03:50] I "finger quote" everything ! [03:50] Nick change: hexorcist -> quasar [03:51] my topic is "digitial bohemians" or something like that [03:51] I thought you were referring to the lecturer as being some dude who has no clue. [03:51] heh, I know a guy who says "comma" in his sentences [03:52] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [03:52] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: "just to eat" [03:52] "digital bohemians"... almost sounds like something that comes from the patented fire|bird nick-generator [03:52] haha [03:53] only then it'd be digital|bohemians [03:53] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [03:54] speaking of the nick-generator, it just gave: protoplasm|superminis [03:54] protoplasm|superminis++ [03:54] and after that: panicked|superlatively [03:54] What do you do when: mahogany|regenerates [03:55] mahogany|protoplasm? [03:56] Camarade_Tux: your generator license is revoked. I am the apprehensions|service [03:56] crap, the packt of crisps had another packet inside and I binned it, now the hard drive makes the desk vibrate again =/ [03:56] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [03:57] hmm, took six socks =/ [03:57] phoenix^: ='( [03:58] lol [03:59] Here's an interesting one: influenza|workmanship [03:59] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.40.138) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:00] and, don't forget your airline|friends [04:00] Well, time to get going. Later everyone. Take Care. [04:00] nite [04:00] see ya Camarade_Tux [04:00] sorry, cat was demanding attention [04:01] later slackytude [04:01] (we got a cat! he rules!) [04:01] see ya women|rumored [04:01] err Urchlay [04:01] gn phoenix^ [04:01] electronics|solos [04:01] that actually kind of fits you, don't it? [04:01] yeah, pretty much. :P [04:02] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [04:02] EuroTrash (n=rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:02] haha, hangovers|swerved [04:02] hm, well, I *have* been debating over whether to finish this little bottle of jim beam [04:03] lol [04:03] Well, as long as your hangovers|swerved, you're alright. :P [04:03] finish it tonight I mean. If not, it'll be there later in the week... [04:04] anyway, later guys. [04:04] phoenix^: ! [04:04] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [04:04] Camarade_Tux: ! [04:04] phoenix^: :) [04:04] *poof* [04:04] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [04:04] Action: Camarade_Tux will have to ask him about his leaving message one day [04:06] Action: _MaggoT_ omg download 40mb take 1 hour :( [04:07] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:08] a bit more than 10KB/s :) [04:09] <_MaggoT_> yes but still to slow [04:10] <_MaggoT_> for finish download all file from http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/ take about 3 hour [04:11] so let it run overnight, or while you're not otherwise staring at the computer screen [04:11] downloading is like waiting for water to boil, it only takes longer if you stand there and busy-wait for it [04:12] _MaggoT_: hahaha :P [04:13] Morning [04:13] Kowalczyk (i=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:13] morning Zordrak [04:13] kowa (i=kowalczy@237-160.neasonline.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:13] Dont suppose anyone has a 12+U rack 1m deep they dont want? [04:13] artv61 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:14] I'm already on the waiting list for that -_- [04:14] awffs [04:14] (I'm on all hardware waiting lists actually :) ) [04:14] kowa (i=kowalczy@237-160.neasonline.no) joined ##slackware. [04:14] ive got 10 1u serwersn coming and nowhere to rack them [04:15] hahaha images from a hack day: http://simonwillison.net/2009/Oct/19/hackday/ :P [04:16] esteeven (n=esteeven@82-32-107-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:17] morning [04:17] <_MaggoT_> esteeven :morning [04:17] EuroTrash (n=rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [04:18] http://developer.yahoo.net/blog/archives/2009/10/taiwan_ohd_apology.html [04:19] I have been messing around with Slack for a while : time for a proper install on my Thinkpad. Time for Ubuntu to go. [04:20] Kowalczyk (i=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.no) joined ##slackware. [04:20] y0 Zordrak [04:21] esteeven: wise choices [04:21] esteeven: :) [04:21] slackytude: i hope so [04:21] Zordrak: do you even know whether you need square or round hole rack? [04:22] I might be back soon, screaming for help :) [04:22] that's worth finding out before you purchase it [04:23] uuh [04:23] i hate colleagues [04:24] why? [04:24] especially when they destroy the webroot on the production systems for half our cluster, say "oops, sorry" and then dissapears for a cigarette [04:24] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [04:25] and leaves me to fix it [04:25] fun! [04:25] it's like a 1.7GB webroot as well [04:25] wtf [04:26] tewmten: possible solution: "Mr. Boss, it's them, not me! ='( " [04:27] hm? [04:27] I am the boss! [04:27] ananke: ananke i will take anything i can get and adapt as necessary... i would prefer square [04:29] tewmten: then you can fire the dude [04:29] lol [04:29] this is europe, you cant just fire people [04:32] no.. you have to invent a legal excuse first [04:34] destroying a production system isnt enough? [04:34] hence its easier to just break his legs [04:34] more fun as well [04:35] wth? the sun is blinking [04:35] so long as it was his job to use it and he was trained not to break it then its enough [04:35] Camarade_Tux: stay off the mushrooms [04:36] he :P [04:36] Action: slackytude yawns [04:36] man, Im so wasted [04:36] I could be doing some projects now [04:36] aigon (n=ojof@92.82.65.212) joined ##slackware. [04:36] but I is too lazy [04:36] tracked it down to a crane with something (flag?) moving quickly because of the wind [04:37] no customer calls either [04:37] Action: Camarade_Tux just had breakfast [04:37] I need to go to bed earlier [04:39] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [04:39] Action: slackytude checks noobfarm [04:40] meh [04:40] http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1758 [04:41] http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1749 [04:43] Level-Zero (n=Level-Ze@196.202.27.173) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:43] #1758 is probably from soviet russia [04:44] Axius (n=fd@92.82.69.2) left irc: Connection timed out [04:45] in soviet russia, linux installs you! [04:45] slackytude: I still haven't received my propaganda material =/ [04:45] CcSsNET_ (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:45] Action: Camarade_Tux is still waiting for the slackware sex doll ='( [04:46] Action: LSD` doesn't want to know [04:46] Action: alisonken1noc neither [04:47] :) [04:47] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) joined ##slackware. [04:53] Action: alisonken1noc got enough scuttlebut about sailors at sea to wonder about Camerade_Tux propaganda material [04:54] slackware sex doll? [04:54] I like slackware, but its just a platonic thing [04:54] tewmten: where in europe? [04:54] slackytude: WHAT? you don't make love to your slackware? :D [04:55] tewmten: i read the log above... and couldnt stop thinking why do you hire people that seem to be unefficient..and irresponsible..sorry?! [04:56] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [04:56] Camarade_Tux: I prefer women [04:57] cant stand working with women... they cant take the low temperature i like to run my cave at [04:57] well, hot women dont..so...why are you complaining ;) [04:58] i haz my own hot woman [04:58] at work all i need is air con and a lockable door [04:58] Action: alisonken1noc too - and she keeps the fan running to cool herself down all night long [05:00] oy [05:00] Zordrak: and coffee [05:00] oh yes.. thats a given [05:00] like air, you mean [05:00] curently waiting for my coffee to cool [05:01] yeah.. air / light / coffee.. its all the same thing [05:01] Action: slackytude nods [05:01] altho I can hold my breath for longer than a minute [05:01] hard to go that long without coffee, tho [05:01] one awesome cup will see we through [05:02] but it has to be truly awesome [05:03] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-71-75.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:04] fcking akonadi [05:07] jhw (n=jhw@p548F72A4.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:07] jhw (n=jhw@p548F72A4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [05:12] artv61 (n=art@216.6.155.17) joined ##slackware. [05:12] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:12] I like dolphin, tho [05:13] ftw [05:13] best ever gui file/resource browser [05:14] Zordrak: sorry - awsome or not, I _need_ my coffee :) [05:14] what i mean is that if it werent an awesome coffee id need more than just the one [05:14] Zordrak: aye, its funky. what would be really cool would be if it would really mount some stuff [05:14] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-102.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [05:15] Zordrak: like providing a mountpoint for the samba stuff [05:15] not sure how id feel about that [05:15] thats not its job [05:15] well, try to open any file from a smb share [05:15] and edit it [05:15] right now, it will download it to tmp and upload it again when you are done [05:16] sometimes [05:16] Id be nice if it would give you a smbmount, so you can access it with commandline stuff as well [05:16] it'd [05:17] its just not its job [05:17] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-71-75.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:17] if you wmant something mounted, mount it then access it [05:18] Zordrak: i just fixed a bug, and now stuff can successfully migrate on 2.6.28.7 on x86_64 [05:18] like when you put a CD in.. its not dolphin that mounts it.. dolphin opens it after its mounted [05:19] spook: \o/ [05:19] buuuut, null pointer dereference when trying to migrate home. [05:21] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430534.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:22] fcking akonadi [05:22] just kill it [05:22] i do [05:22] comes everytime when I start korganizer [05:23] Action: Zordrak thinks signal 9 should be renamed SIGMURDERDEATHKILL [05:23] rworkman, ping [05:23] aye [05:24] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [05:24] i think signal 9 should be renamed SIGSODOFF [05:24] nah thants sig15 [05:25] Action: Zordrak needs a coffee thermometer [05:26] dchmelik (n=d@66.243.232.25) left irc: "Leaving." [05:27] phzin (n=StupidX@189.57.19.89) joined ##slackware. [05:27] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-102.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:28] Zordrak: must have been watching Stalone reruns again [05:28] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [05:34] I swear to $DEITY this is what's sat in front of me right now: http://imagebin.org/68512 [05:34] frufru [05:34] aww MAN it tases good [05:34] is that good or bad? [05:35] got enough keyboards? [05:35] O_O [05:35] depends on if you like to kill your coffee tastes [05:36] spook: you know about that.. one for irssi (Dvorak), one for working on (QWERTY) [05:36] whaddya mean? [05:36] oh right. [05:40] kawfee [05:40] spook: Just for you, Drinky McPhee: http://imagebin.org/68513 [05:40] oy [05:40] gotta go [05:40] The-Croupier: people make misstakes [05:42] _MaggoT_ (n=NewBie@125.161.216.32) left irc: [05:42] Zordrak: not a bad setup :) [05:42] :) [05:42] t0f (n=foo@4.238.248.159) joined ##slackware. [05:43] aoeu [05:43] would be better if id have had choices from the start.. but a lot of it is.. what i could cobble together from the rest of the business.. hence viewsonic instead of iiyama [05:44] aoeuidhtns [05:44] :) [05:44] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: "leaving" [05:45] sfdtg (n=H@9.131.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [05:45] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:45] sfdtg (n=H@9.131.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left ##slackware ("Saliendo"). [05:46] i remember seeing a cool little idea, alias asdf to change to dvorak. alias aoeu to change to qwerty [05:47] Nick change: umopepisdn` -> pragma_ [05:47] worth doing IF you change between them :) [05:47] I wouldn't be able to type my passwords anymore =/ [05:47] Camarade_Tux: that was hard [05:47] Camarade_Tux: my password is 15 chars with symbols too [05:48] typing it on a qwerty box but a dvorak keyboard is *hard* [05:48] Zordrak: ^^ [05:48] Zordrak: mine on a qwerty is horrible too [05:48] Zordrak: and a uk keyboard with an american layout? =) [05:49] Camarade_Tux: huh? [05:50] badly configured [05:51] yours or mine? [05:51] Zordrak: a friend of mine's [05:51] orite [05:51] im used to US on UK cause i have to deal with it when installing a new OS on anything [05:51] or running acronis [05:52] unop (n=unop@82-38-192-17.cable.ubr04.shef.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [05:52] unop (n=unop@82-38-192-17.cable.ubr04.shef.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:53] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-jccsyugwxbwtkxpl) joined ##slackware. [05:53] mornin' all... [05:56] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.129.91) joined ##slackware. [05:56] hi there! [05:58] gave up on the irc widget...cool, but not quite ready :-) [05:58] hi there! [05:59] mmm... I already said it... [05:59] good effort tho [06:00] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-ciurjdopmudnhtyh) left irc: "leaving" [06:01] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-nvsyineaefntpgcb) joined ##slackware. [06:01] yeah [06:02] what should i have for dinner? [06:03] aigon (n=ojof@92.82.65.212) left irc: "Leaving" [06:03] shrimp [06:03] chinqy! [06:03] and crablegs [06:03] corn and sausage [06:03] spook, dinner? at this time? maybe lunch... Where do you live? :P [06:03] or just chuck another shrimp on the barbie...hehe [06:03] heh [06:04] metrofox: /ctcp spook time [06:04] mmm... 18:04:23 2009 [06:04] john_dee (n=id@93-81-138-69.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [06:04] wahnfrieden (n=wahn@c-24-91-229-97.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:04] wahnfrieden (n=wahn@c-24-91-229-97.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [06:04] australia? [06:04] i dont know, you tell me [06:04] lol [06:05] /ctcp metrofox time [06:05] oh [06:05] well I won't get crazy guessing what country do you live in :P [06:05] it's 12:06 ;) [06:05] okaaay, um germany? [06:06] turkey? [06:06] italy.. [06:06] where about? [06:06] a geoip on his ip would do find that out [06:06] south italy... palermo [06:06] spook, there's no need, just ask ;) [06:06] jhw (n=jhw@p548F72A4.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:06] cool wee city, i lived in lipari for a couple months [06:07] rogersman, there has been an earthquake a few weeks ago... [06:07] anyone else get an error compiling xpdf (from slackware.com) ? [06:08] do be honest, if your gonna live near a volcano.... [06:08] mancha: i like okular better :P [06:08] rogersman, vulcano :P [06:08] oh , u mean in palermo? [06:08] rogersman, no, in lipari [06:08] vulcano pizza is spicy as hell, i remember that! [06:08] gorgeous gorgeous part of sicily [06:09] rogersman, if you're near naples pizza and mozzarella are the best! [06:09] for example in battipaglia(naple's province) mozzarella is so good, so tasty... [06:09] bit of treck for me unfortunately, im up in edinburgh.... [06:10] freezing my arse off [06:10] rogersman, it's cold, really? [06:11] thefuckingweather.com [06:11] it was this morning...bout 5 degrees [06:11] rogersman, :O [06:11] not all of us are lucky enough to live in the bush spook! [06:11] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:11] sorry mancha lol [06:12] how would one suggest i go about a live console version of slackware? [06:12] live console version? [06:12] sorry dude, I didn't get the point :( You mean testual? [06:13] rogersman: actually most of the population lives on the coast in cities [06:13] yes, i know [06:14] the last zipslack was zipslack was 11.0 [06:14] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [06:14] metrofox: i meant no x, but something i can just dump on a usb key to use wherever [06:15] looks like zipslack was ditched with the bootdisks [06:15] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [06:16] spook, so you live in china or.... [06:16] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ccgwqueukwcabrvx) joined ##slackware. [06:16] mmm [06:19] nyRednek: unfortunately there is no current method for running slackware in a live environment [06:20] not supported methods anyway [06:20] not to say its impossible to do [06:20] ehhjm. Im trying to install slackware on a dell poweredge 1855. but it cant find the disk. something about the mpt. I know it is the raid controller. what do I have to do? [06:20] kowa: step one: get an ACTUAL error message [06:20] not "something about the mpt" [06:20] Zordrak: i'm seeing that [06:21] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:21] Zordrak: i'd love to have a nice mean little system like zipslack used to have [06:21] me too.. but i gave up [06:21] Zordrak, it complain about doorbell. and stuff like that. when I do fdisk -l I get nothing. ubuntu found it:( but not slackware.. [06:21] the closest option is slax but i didnt like slax.. at least not for anything but emergency maintenance [06:21] doorbell?! [06:22] Zordrak: did the 2.6 change things that much? [06:22] Zordrak, wait then :D [06:22] nyRednek: *shrug* i dont know who handled zipslack before [06:22] i guess its just not hgh on anyone's priorities list [06:22] Zordrak: i think it was alienbob [06:22] Zordrak: i've looked at slax [06:23] nyRednek: then ask him about it.... but id guess if it was reasonably easy hed have done it already [06:23] _MaggoT_ (n=maggot@125.161.216.32) joined ##slackware. [06:24] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [06:26] Zordrak, mptbase ioc0 error. Doorbell ACK Timeout(count=4999),Intstatus=8000000! [06:26] Nick change: pragma_ -> incognito` [06:26] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [06:27] Nick change: incognito` -> umopepisdn` [06:28] kowa: that looks like an mpt driver bug.. what version of slack are you installing? [06:28] 13. [06:28] 0 [06:29] and fdisk -l shows nothing [06:29] of course it does [06:29] the driver isnt loading properly [06:29] ok.. hmmm.. any idea how to fix it? :) [06:30] http://tinyurl.com/slackmpt [06:30] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:30] thanks:) [06:30] you cant load the aic7xxx before the mpt drivur [06:31] so youre gonna have to boot the installer with a generic kernel and an initrd [06:32] its not easy.. but will give you experience :) [06:32] but then I have to a running system on it. which I dont :D [06:33] Zordrak: but dont you really hate initrds? [06:33] there is an alternative.. which is to install slackware on the hard disk using a different machine, making a custom kernel.. and then putting the hard disk back in the machine you want it tho run on [06:33] artv61 (n=art@216.6.155.17) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [06:33] spook: i hate them *when* theyre unnecessary [06:34] unlike windows, it works well that way (I've done it multiple times [06:34] ) [06:34] Zordrak: i know that, just poking you :P [06:34] alisonken1noc: windows after 2000. [06:34] alisonken1noc: if you sysprep xp/vista etc, you can transplant the hdd [06:34] spook: I stopped learning after 98 :) [06:35] basically, blame dell [06:35] the poweredges blow [06:35] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-jccsyugwxbwtkxpl) left irc: "Leaving." [06:35] i know.. I have one at the heart of my personal domain/network [06:35] in fact this irssi session is running on it (PowerEdge SC440) [06:36] it is intentionally crippled for anything other than what they want you to run [06:37] Zordrak: dell screws up their edges to keep you frun running *nix on it effectively? [06:37] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [06:37] s/frun/from [06:37] slackytude: ref: yesterday :: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8266883.stm [06:37] nyRednek: nothing so simple [06:38] <_MaggoT_> hope no error anymore when compile multilib [06:38] Zordrak: ok...explain(first i've heard of this) [06:39] they try to stop you from running anything but RHEL or SuSE.. and the hardware is designed so that its useless for any other purpose (ie a desktop) so that they can sell them as _cheap_ servers.. but so you cant use them instead of more expensive machines for most things.. so you have to spend as much money as possible [06:40] So.. you can buy a poweredge sc440 if you need a lightweight dns server runnig RHEL5 or something.. but dont expect to be able to do much else with it [06:41] the only reason i have one is cause they were flogging them off for £99 ex VAT each and I bought two and sold one for £200 [06:41] btw, it's SUSE now. no longer SuSE [06:42] noted [06:42] makes it easier to type [06:42] Action: ananke hated that camel casing. [06:42] but it works reasonably well as a simple slack mail/dns server [06:42] Action: Zordrak hate{d,s} S{u,U}SE [06:43] Zordrak: so it doesn't work well as a "blade" style server in a cluster? [06:43] but i cant even get sensors to work on it.. couse dell have crippled it for anything but their BMC tool which they only provide for RHEL and is so hard to find and even harder to get working i actually gave up [06:44] nyRednek: at 4U, would you really want to? [06:44] Zordrak: nevermind [06:44] nyRednek: if you want to cluster poweredges with RHEL they should be ok [06:45] uhmm, SC440 is not even rack mounted [06:45] but on slack expect to get nothing from the hardware but what you put in [06:45] ananke: no.. but theyre are many in DCs in quarter rack shelves [06:45] <_MaggoT_> *** Starting the conversion process: [06:45] <_MaggoT_> *** 'A' series: [06:45] <_MaggoT_> *** FAIL: package 'bzip2' was not found! [06:45] and i *think* its possible to mount them [06:45] <_MaggoT_> hmm [06:45] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-136-178.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:45] <_MaggoT_> at linux a with A diff? [06:46] Zordrak: worst idea ever. and yeah, i've seen third party crappy machines that were towers with ability to attach rails [06:46] _MaggoT_: if you downloaded everythiong below "multilib" then you must already have all the converted packages below multilib/slackware64-compat32 [06:47] <_MaggoT_> yes already [06:47] No need to convert then again [06:47] hmm. so Zordrak so I should install redhat on it?:D [06:47] <_MaggoT_> ow [06:47] <_MaggoT_> ok thx [06:47] Zordrak: i don't like rhel... [06:47] ananke: aye.. these new file servers here are 4U supermicro jobs.. but theyre sold with rails [06:47] nyRednek: me either [06:47] I have never tried Redhat :P [06:47] nyRednek: makes me vomit just thinking about it [06:47] alienBOB: didn't you maintain zipslack at one point? [06:47] the moral is dont buy poweredge [06:48] Zordrak, hehe. we got a few of them at work.. and nothing to do with them. so I was just planning on installing slack on it. [06:48] Zordrak: poweredge are fine servers. they have tons of rack mounted models [06:48] Zordrak: no worries, if i need something for clustering, i'll call ibm [06:49] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:49] nyRednek: aye.. these 10 1U servers ive got coming are all x-series eServers [06:49] nyRednek: nope [06:49] Zipslack was maintained by Pat and it is dead now [06:49] ananke: hardware perhaps.. soft/firmware not so much [06:49] alienBOB: ok, sorry...was wondering why it was killed off [06:50] alienBOB: has there ever been talk of a live-booting scenario since 2.6? [06:50] Old, unmaintained [06:50] Zordrak: nope [06:50] fnuff :) [06:50] alienBOB: i was hoping for something i could dump onto a usb key to work as a live-booting setup [06:50] Zordrak: what seems to be the problem with software and firmware? dell hardware is actually great on that front, since you can use linux to manage your hardware, upgrade firmware, etc [06:51] ananke: precisely because of things like the temp sensors on the SC440 [06:51] outside of rhel it is barely possible to get a reading [06:51] alienBOB: and i wasn't wanting to play with slax for that capability [06:52] i spent a couple of weeks working on it on and off.. and then another couple of weeks a year later [06:52] Zordrak: which still means that one is able to use linux to get it working. that's more than a lot of vendors [06:52] Action: Zordrak toddles off to a staff meeting.. crossing fingers that a removal company isnt ready to move in as soon as we're all dowstairs [06:52] and try upgrading your firmware on those supermicro servers [06:52] Zordrak: the src2pkg utility didn't produce anything usable? [06:53] ananke: why? nothing wrong with them as they are [06:53] Zordrak: point being, likely you're not able to upgrade any kind of firmware on those from linux [06:53] nyRednek: i dont remember.. for a start i dont think theyre provided as pure RPMs and definitely not provided as source [06:53] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:54] Zordrak: src2pkg is able to convert binary rpm's to slackware tgz's [06:54] things like raid controller firmware, drive firmware, out-of-band-management firmware, bios, etc [06:54] ananke: ref first comment: just because a VW golf doesnt suck as hard as a Nissan Sunny.. doesnt mean id want one [06:54] ananke: i upgraded raid controller firmware in 3 mins.. but thats cause its 3ware :) [06:54] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) left irc: "Leaving" [06:54] anyway.. got to run [06:55] and probably txz's now [06:56] GRAH STOP TRYING TO KILL INIT YOU SILLY SILLY KERNEL [06:56] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[07:27] jhw (n=jhw@p548F72A4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:28] jhw (n=jhw@p548F72A4.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:28] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133253 <-- mwahahahaha [07:28] jhw (n=jhw@p548F72A4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:28] Same shit, different month. No news of any relevance. [07:32] rogersman (n=gr235423@192.18.1.36) joined ##slackware. [07:33] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:33] Can i ask for a quick survey of you guys' torrent client of choice? thanx [07:33] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [07:35] wubbster (n=wubbster@24.206.157.137) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:35] rogersman: depends on the circumstances [07:35] yes [07:36] t0f (n=foo@4.238.248.159) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [07:37] rogersman, I use torrentflux. I think that's nice. or actually torrentflux-b4rt and I have used rtorrent [07:39] <_MaggoT_> happy happy happy :) [07:41] rogersman: ktorrent or rtorrent, transmission on xfce4 systems [07:42] <_MaggoT_> Wine build complete. :p [07:43] Hmm seems like that autoiso-xorg.patch from ck fixed those issues I had with flash glitches here [07:45] Nick change: ZombieRP -> Kiboney|SLEEPY [07:47] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.68.185) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:51] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-201.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [07:51] The channel ##slackware reminds me of my pc, it works for some time...then goes to idle for a long time...until something stupid happens ;) [07:52] <_MaggoT_> lol [07:53] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [07:58] rogersman, rtorrent [07:58] wertik_rus (n=wertik@69.172.130.217) joined ##slackware. [07:59] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-171-3.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [08:00] hrm, i need to buy a new gfx card; any suggestions for PCIe? [08:00] <_MaggoT_> hmm [08:00] pff) [08:00] hehe The-Croupier [08:00] alisonken1noc, : [08:00] ) [08:01] dartmouth, What do you need it for? Care if the drivers are open source or closed source? [08:02] oh. It's cold in Norway at this time :( :D [08:02] adamk, i'd prefer closed source as the FLOSS drivers generally suck by comparison; would like to emphasize performance on both win and linux platforms [08:02] <_MaggoT_> omg 2giga ram not enough for play windows game use wine :( [08:02] e.g. im selling out with this one so i dont ever have to buy another one again or wish i had a better card. [08:03] i want the FPS on my epsxe to be ONE BILLION [08:04] I want to tear space-time with the 'rain' terminal app, and I want to not have to worry about heat. [08:04] dartmouth, Both nvidia and AMD produce good closed drivers for their latest cards. The nvidia drivers are probably still better than the AMD ones under linux these days. [08:04] im not sure the FPS of the universe is that high :-) [08:04] I want to analyze friggin' DNA proteins at a molecular level with my new card. [08:05] I want it to map the human genome. [08:05] And preferrably to make toast. [08:05] <_MaggoT_> dartmouth, if u want have good FPS on u epsxe i think must have good Prossesor [08:05] I like toast. [08:06] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [08:06] I want a card where when I'm having gfx problems, people ask me what card I have, and just automatically assume 'oh, well it cant be the card'. [08:06] I want it autographed by Linus Tarvold. [08:06] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [08:07] Delivered hand-to-hand by computer geeks on foot, with police protection, and in an unmarked envelope stamped simply as 'important' [08:07] radio support preferred. [08:07] theres maybe an autographed voodoo 2 going about somewhere... [08:08] get 2 of them, and wa-hey you'll be playing doom at 40fps before u know it [08:08] I may settle for one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Store/Category.aspx?Category=38&name=Video-Cards-Video-Devices [08:08] Action: The-Croupier doesnt play games in slackware :( [08:09] Action: The-Croupier tried but got bored very quickly.... :( [08:09] The-Croupier, most of the gfx needs in slackware is for the DE [08:09] crazy resolutions and compiz [08:10] im leary about going with another ATI though [08:10] their driver support seems to really suck and i've had to build a custom kernel every time ive had to use one of their recent cards [08:10] just so it can build the kernel mod driver [08:10] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [08:11] dartmouth: you managed to install ati proprietary drivers succesfully ? [08:12] axtroz, yeah but only when im using my own kernel [08:12] i tried that on a friend's PC with slackware-12.2 [08:12] tried what? [08:12] compiled a custom kernel and went with the drivers from ati.com but failed [08:13] "you don't have make module" [08:13] oh [08:13] thats because you fail. [08:13] well i never said i win :) [08:13] i think you should win :P [08:13] i hoped so but.. :S [08:13] win 7. [08:13] noway [08:14] The AMD catalyst 9.8 drivers installed straight away with the generic Slackware 13.0 kernel. [08:14] No custome kernel needed. [08:14] custom, even. [08:14] adamk, good to know actually [08:14] I just used the --buildpkg option and installed the resulting packages. Voila! :-) [08:15] <_MaggoT_> dartmouth, try searh ati radeon HD5850 [08:15] <_MaggoT_> *search [08:15] adamk_ what's your video card? [08:16] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150369 [08:16] oooh [08:16] that looks nice and cheap too [08:16] axtroz, I did that on an HD3450. [08:16] <_MaggoT_> that more good that Nvidia GTX260 [08:16] i dont like the mention of needing a workaround to actually use the thing though [08:16] you lost me at 'more good' [08:17] <_MaggoT_> lol [08:17] hm.. can someone give me an advice, which is better for a X1600, the opensource drivers or the proprietary driver? [08:17] axtroz, The open source drivers are the only real option on Slackware 13. [08:17] axtroz, the prop drivers will always be better than the oss drivers [08:17] axtroz, AMD dropped all non-HD cards as of fglrx 9.4. [08:18] keres (n=keres@ip68-102-140-120.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [08:18] adamk_ i know that but there are still 9.3 or so [08:18] Except that the proprietary drivers for that card don't work with Xorg 1.6.* and kernel 2.6.28.* or higher. [08:18] ...which don't build [08:18] another reason to use nvidia ~_~ [08:18] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-201.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:18] I won't go near nvidia. [08:18] even my TNT2 card is supported :P [08:18] adamk_: O_o [08:19] Their drivers *constantly* locked up my desktop at home when I used them last. [08:19] _bruno (n=bruno@189-68-128-184.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:19] I'd rather have slower, stabler open source drivers. [08:19] why ? [08:19] stickyboy (n=hugo@196.202.206.167) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:19] nvidia is really nice [08:19] Bah. [08:19] adamk_: at least they loaded :) [08:19] How should I know why? [08:19] axtroz: because they stay current with the kernel and are typically of better quality [08:19] _bruno (n=bruno@189-68-128-184.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:19] the beta yeah, i am with an nvidia card on my pc [08:20] even using the beta 190.32 driver [08:20] and i have no trouble at all :) [08:20] same here... nvidia allaround [08:20] even on my laptop with a 9800M [08:20] am I correct in assuming this thing will do dual monitors out of the box right from the same card? http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=14-102-858-Z06&ISList=14-102-858-Z01%2c14-102-858-Z02%2c14-102-858-Z03%2c14-102-858-Z04%2c14-102-858-Z05%2c14-102-858-Z06&S7ImageFlag=1&Item=N82E16814102858&Depa=0&WaterMark=1&Description=SAPPHIRE%20100283L%20Radeon%20HD%205770%20%28Juniper%20XT%29%201GB%20128-bit%20GDDR5%20PCI%20Express%202.0%20x1 [08:20] 6%20HDCP%20Ready%20CrossFire%20Supported%20Video%20Card [08:20] yow [08:20] that link is way too long [08:20] o_o [08:20] no trouble but a friend of mine has a X1600 and nomatter what he's doing he can't get Direct 3D on... [08:20] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102858 [08:21] lotec (n=lotec@static-96-254-222-162.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:21] *direct rendering * [08:21] my bad [08:21] Direct 3D? [08:21] Heh. [08:21] lotec (n=lotec@static-96-254-222-162.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:21] axtroz, It's definitely supported by the open source drivers. Well enough to run compiz, neverball, openarena, ut2004, etc. [08:22] well, i'll tell him to give slack 13 a shot if he wishes... coz he threw slack away because of wow... dumb nolifer -_- [08:22] i've found the oss drivers are usually just an in-between quality between vesa and the props, and much closer to vesa [08:22] dartmouth, I *believe* the proprietary drivers support that the HD5xxx GPUs these days, but I'm not 100% sure. [08:23] axtroz, Have him come in here if he still has problems getting 3D going with that card. [08:23] adamk, im just concerned because i have vga input on the monitor; you think an adapter would work with that setup? [08:24] adamk_ sure will :) [08:24] dartmouth, Most cards that do not have a VGA input come with an adapter to convert VGA to DVI. [08:24] dartmouth, I don't know if that card comes with one, but I know that such cards exist. [08:25] Such adapters exist, rather. [08:25] Oh, actually. [08:25] no what i mean is will that conversion be an issue [08:25] From the picture, it looks like it has one. [08:25] I don't see why. It doesn't require any special driver support. [08:25] The adapter does the conversion. [08:25] so... ATI's drivers work as fast as they do on windows? [08:26] mako-sama, Probably not. Not last time I checked, anyway. [08:26] Nick change: Kiboney|SLEEPY -> Kiboney [08:27] as I thought :) [08:29] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [08:30] i wish i had jetdirect for this printer -_- [08:31] <_MaggoT_> dartmouth, that link u give before same like my vga card [08:31] <_MaggoT_> HD4770 [08:31] <_MaggoT_> hmm good vga card but only 128 bit [08:34] Action: dartmouth is considering just building a new box from scratch, a piece at a time. [08:35] weird [08:35] Action: dartmouth is considering just building a new box from scratch, a piece at a time. [08:36] <_MaggoT_> dartmouth, look HD4850 the price not to far from HD4770 [08:36] CChheecckk yyoouurr dduupplleexx sswwiittcchh.. [08:36] yo [08:37] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [08:37] yoyo steiger [08:39] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-130-228.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:39] mmm http://www.simsim.lv/index.php?productID=169360&__furl_path=index.php&ukey=product&did=34&view=printable [08:39] damn [08:40] 800.000 arrested for marijuana possession last year in the US [08:40] yummu [08:40] yummy * [08:40] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Quitting" [08:41] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:43] Action: Zordrak has pacemaker installed and successfully invoked on two nodes [08:43] Action: Zordrak sinks to his knees and weeps with joy [08:43] yeah, ok i havent configured it to manage drbd yet.. or even set up STONITH.. but it STARTS! [08:44] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:45] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144162 :D :D :D [08:46] lol sorry, i can stop if anyone thinks im reaching the spam threshold; im shopping. [08:46] steiger_ (n=steiger@189.105.81.246) joined ##slackware. [08:47] wertik_rus (n=wertik@69.172.130.217) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [08:47] gnubien (n=e@58.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:47] dartmouth: relax :) [08:47] <_MaggoT_> dont use PSU from default case [08:49] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-140-143.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [08:52] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:53] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811148001 <--- I'm totally buying this. [08:53] oh wait there's a black clear one [08:53] too many choices [08:53] Action: dartmouth blows up [08:54] Action: The-Croupier kicks dartmouth's pieces around the room [08:55] :( [08:55] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-168-238-243.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [08:55] please keep my pieces together :( [08:55] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-171-3.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [08:56] cuba33ci (i=cuba33ci@118-168-238-243.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:56] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-168-238-243.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:57] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@114-45-231-184.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [08:57] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:57] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-18-88.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:58] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [08:58] Action: The-Croupier gets the vacuum [08:58] test [08:59] is superkaramba supposed to work in xfce? [09:00] cos it ignores mouse clicks [09:01] mm, doubt it :) [09:02] doubt what? [09:02] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Connection timed out [09:02] that it's "supposed to work." it's a centered around the kwin environment [09:02] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [09:02] hrm [09:03] well, displaying stuff works [09:04] whats the xfce alternative? [09:04] I just launched it in xfce4 and told it to add EasyMonitor_Bug_Areo_1 to my desktop. I can move it around, right click and tell it to reload theme. [09:04] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.81.246) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:05] slackytude: lxde? [09:06] axtroz (i=1000@77.78.15.16) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:06] The tic-tac-toe game works fine. I can click in a square and have it put an X there. [09:06] dartmouth: with such a tower you know when it's time to clean your computer :) [09:06] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [09:06] blist [09:09] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:12] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:12] adamk_: oh? [09:12] adamk_: same here, except most clicks dont work [09:12] Camarade_Tux: lxde? [09:12] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [09:13] Camarade_Tux, i know its weird but id actually prefer a base not a tower [09:14] so i can stack them :D [09:14] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:15] slackboy, Do you have compositing enabled? [09:15] slackytude: yeah, you know, http://yaxm.org/!lxde :) [09:16] dartmouth: haha :P [09:18] Camarade_Tux, good luck finding base computer cases that are full atx though :( [09:18] that are worth owning, anyway [09:18] DFasdf [09:18] slackytude, Do you have compositing enabled? [09:18] dartmouth: can't you just take a tower and rotate it? :D [09:19] slackytu1e (n=icke@p4FD8911D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:19] ....no I can not take a tower and rotate it. [09:19] well, you'd get a perpendicular storage hard drive :) [09:20] slackytude: stop dying! [09:20] Action: slackytu1e nods [09:20] xfce is nice [09:20] but I miss the compiz stuff [09:21] xfce + compiz-fusion really was nic [09:21] e [09:22] slackytude (n=icke@79.216.145.183) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:22] Nick change: slackytu1e -> slackytude [09:22] saw a palm pre today [09:22] really nice machine [09:22] 20 euro per month [09:22] Im tempted -_- [09:22] a few hours ago, I said I could take a new screenshot of my desk, it'd look exactly like the old one so here you go [09:23] old: http://omploader.org/vMjZuNA / new: http://omploader.org/vMmt6eA/new_screenshot.png [09:23] slackytude: I saw an N900 last week :) [09:23] slackytude, So install compiz-fusion... [09:23] slackytude: 20 euros per month is pretty inexpensive [09:24] Camarade_Tux: and for 8.5 euro per month you get unlimited internet. so, it's more like 30 euro per month for 24 months [09:24] adamk_: not in sbo repo for 13 [09:24] adamk_: and the 12.2 stuff doesnt work anymore [09:25] Camarade_Tux, is that 'ion'? [09:25] adamk_: havent looked into it too closely yet [09:25] dartmouth: openbox, it's not tiling [09:25] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:25] slackytude: nice [09:25] oh [09:25] Meh. I just installed it from source. [09:25] I'll probably get the palm [09:25] i use ion when i need teh-butt-sechs-gui [09:26] slackytude: can't you just install it manually without a script? [09:26] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [09:26] dartmouth: I have a touchpad which means it's very easy to move from keyboard to cursor and vice-versa :) [09:26] probably. but as far as I can see, compiz is running. compiz --replace stuff does something, just nothing I could use [09:26] evo- (n=evo@91.47.225.231) joined ##slackware. [09:27] _MaggoT_ (n=maggot@125.161.216.32) left irc: "Leaving" [09:27] you had to do compiz --replace no? [09:27] I don't know.. I don't use compiz [09:27] Action: dartmouth suggests reading the compiz docs [09:27] compiz --replace --ignore-desktop-hints ccp & [09:27] ^ bingo [09:27] 'compiz --replace' starts compiz without any plugins. [09:27] morning yall [09:27] No plugins means no functionality :-) [09:28] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ccgwqueukwcabrvx) left irc: [09:28] And the ccp plugin will only work if you install the rest of compiz-fusion. [09:28] ewww that was like bizarro universe stuff; *I* told slackytude to RTFM [09:28] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@220-136-229-143.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:28] <-- cpunches [09:29] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [09:30] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:31] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [09:33] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ijrdxcnjdgibgabq) joined ##slackware. [09:34] adamk_: that works better [09:34] and emerald works too [09:35] nifty [09:35] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.82.11) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:35] Yay. [09:35] wheeee! [09:35] slackytude, what i do with xfce+compiz is assign a hotkey to reload compiz that i use to 'fix' things when it gets ugly, and after you setup your session it'll just launch on its own [09:35] slackytude: I see that you've opted for the pink side of the Force -_- [09:35] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.20) joined ##slackware. [09:35] Camarade_Tux: shaddup [09:35] its funky [09:35] Camarade_Tux, it's "salmon". [09:36] you'll come back to the grey side of the Force one day, you'll come back to it -_- [09:36] Having 4 rdesktop sessions and expose -> win [09:36] dows :) [09:36] akSeya (i=User@201.21.160.67) joined ##slackware. [09:37] haha, cool, still got the configuration from 12.1 [09:37] screw you kde! Im free again [09:37] free! [09:38] ViN86 (i=ViN86@dhcp-18-111-61-63.dyn.mit.edu) joined ##slackware. [09:38] ViN86 (i=ViN86@dhcp-18-111-61-63.dyn.mit.edu) left irc: Client Quit [09:39] slackytude, you newb! KDE is advanced aliun technolgy! in fact, it only doesn't work for because your system is not advanced aliun hardware! [09:40] its crap [09:40] Action: dartmouth notes though, that he's successfully compiled kde4 in cygwin [09:40] speaking of butt-sechs... [09:41] hrm [09:41] no emerald themes [09:41] yeah you gotta download em [09:41] and install them [09:41] Action: Camarade_Tux hands dartmouth the uselessness award :) [09:41] and build em [09:41] Camarade_Tux, i'll have you know kde4 in windows is exceptionally useful. [09:41] im not sure what for, but it is... [09:42] well, kde4 is usefull. don't know about the rest of your statement [09:42] dartmouth: how long did it take? :D [09:42] I mean, not getting things to work but the compile part [09:42] Action: Camarade_Tux ducks [09:42] Camarade_Tux, about the length of nancy pelosi's career. whom I adore. [09:43] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-22.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:43] he :P [09:44] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.68.185) joined ##slackware. [09:44] i get all of my linux advice from her [09:45] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@114-45-231-184.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:45] larry2times (n=Scuzz@d24-57-84-192.home.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:45] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [09:45] dartmouth: her? http://forbestadvice.com/FanClubs/NancyPelosi/Nancy_Pelosi_Young_Bikini.jpg :D [09:45] is there an op in here that can kill the nick Scuzz [09:45] hehe yum [09:45] my power wnt out and its ghosting [09:45] no [09:46] OPs can't kill nicks.. you have to ghost them if you lost connectivity [09:46] larry2times, /query nickserv help [09:46] larry2times: you can [09:46] /msg nickserv help ghost [09:46] if I compile an exact same version of kernel that I am currently using, will the new modules be dropped in the existing folder (2.6.29.6-smp) in /lib/modules? [09:46] _MaggoT_ (n=maggot@125.161.216.32) joined ##slackware. [09:46] thanx [09:46] Dominian, from now on when you RTFM me i expect a page number ^_^ [09:46] cryptic0: it will replace them [09:46] except those in the "misc" subfoldr [09:47] dartmouth: what? [09:47] _bruno (n=bruno@189-68-128-184.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [09:47] Camarade_Tux, thanks. Where is misc subfolder? [09:47] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:47] nothing im being a jerk brb [09:47] dartmouth (n=dartmout@76.179.231.3) left irc: "Leaving" [09:47] Nick change: larry2times -> Scuzz [09:47] hah ok [09:49] cryptic0: /lib/modules/something/misc :) [09:49] cryptic0: which modules would you want to keep? [09:50] I compiled 2.6.29.6-smp last night, and it replaced the originalmodules I had in /lib/modules [09:50] which were sort of my backup [09:50] Kumool (n=Khwerz@66-50-86-186.prtc.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:50] can the same modules be used by two differnet kernels of same version number? [09:50] probably not I guess [09:50] Depends on how different the kernels are. [09:51] For example, if one is compiled with SMP support and the other isn't, you undoubtedly can't use the same modules. [09:52] both were compiled with smp support, same version number [09:52] 2.6.29.6-smp [09:52] That was just one example. [09:52] I think they only way you'll know is to try.' [09:53] if that doesn't work, will I have to boot with cdrom? [09:54] cryptic0: if the base config is the same and the kernel version is the same, yes [09:54] base config means things not in drivers [09:54] ok [09:54] cryptic0: even with your modules nuked up, you can boot [09:54] dia negada [09:54] ok [09:54] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:55] alicephilippa (i=alice@78.105.168.173) joined ##slackware. [09:55] fosforo_: come again? [10:00] btw, what are those two rats doing on the slackware 13 bootup screen? [10:00] did we change mascot? [10:00] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:00] in honor of the tazmanian devil - this kernel only (from linus) [10:01] cryptic0: tuz [10:01] it's a tazmanian devil? [10:01] it's a linux version of tazmanian devil [10:02] interesting [10:02] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:02] google tuz and you should get the notes on it [10:03] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux <--- towards the bottom [10:11] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:12] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-76-179-231-3.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:13] hrm. ok, we included grub in /extras but didn't include the new ext4 support despite the 13.0 slackware having new ext4 support? was this consciously decided upon or just blunderous? [10:14] grub1 is a piece of shit, don't expect much out of it [10:14] Pat DOES have an ext4 patch in there, but perhaps it doesn't work ? I've not tried personally, but many seem to suggest it doesn't work [10:14] its only a piece of shit because it's not being updated in new releases; if you intentionally break it with your releases of course it's going to go awry. [10:15] FWIW, even fedora found the ext4 patch too invasive to use. that should say something [10:15] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430534.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:15] Action: dartmouth is so mad he's going to go chew on his doorframe. bbiab. [10:16] o.O [10:16] Isnt that why its in extra? [10:16] thrice`: maybe ext4 changed a bit and this broke the patch [10:16] straterra: no its in extra due to distro politics [10:16] No..its in there because its not officially supported [10:16] or... both? [10:17] Camarade_Tux: its the same thing :P [10:17] It's provided as a convenience..but its not guaranteed to work [10:17] or it's in extra because slackware's politic is to not use unsupported software? [10:17] dartmouth: :) [10:17] The grub in /extra should work with ext4 [10:17] Anything in /extra should work [10:18] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/316872 [10:18] "ERROR: Can't find 'ext4_stage1_5' from the grub package." [10:19] Slackware's GRUB is patched for ext4 support even in /boot [10:19] That is the ubuntu bugtracker dartmouth [10:19] I am not interested in ubuntu bugs [10:19] alienBOB: yeah i know, im just saying :P [10:19] ienh (n=ienh@rennes.elikya.com) left irc: "leaving" [10:19] So? [10:20] well the patched grub appears to not have all the files it needs to implement said support [10:20] I've not tried personally, but the patch is installed in slack's grub. quite a few people complained about it failing, but that's about all I know [10:20] Desiderius (n=DC@195.221.162.126) joined ##slackware. [10:21] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [10:21] and, i just verified that the ext4_stage1_5 is not in /usr/share/grub/i386-pc/ [10:23] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [10:24] are you dual booting or something? [10:25] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [10:27] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:27] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:28] Morning all. I am sporting my new Slackware Linux T-Shirt. It is really cool. It looks like the splash screen. [10:29] I didn't purchase the latest software because the last one I purchased the DVD was faulty. So this time I decided to support my favorite OS with a Shirt Purchase [10:30] got both [10:30] shirt and dvd [10:30] Nice [10:30] dartmouth: "cp -a e2fs_stage1_5 ext4_stage1_5" will make it work [10:30] I will buy 14.0 hopefully they will get the burn sorted out [10:31] _MaggoT_ (n=maggot@125.161.216.32) left irc: "Leaving" [10:34] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [10:35] alienBOB: ok thank you [10:36] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:36] scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [10:36] scuzz: someone pretending to be you was in here earlier. [10:36] any way to convert this url from utf-8 to plain text? http://www=2Enewegg=2Ecom/ [10:36] gnubien: man perl [10:36] ? [10:36] no it was me [10:37] scuzz: AH HA! you're back! stop pretending to be scuzz you filthy pirate! [10:37] Action: dartmouth slays you [10:37] dartmouth: ok, looking... [10:37] im trying to get a handle on irssi [10:37] _bruno (n=bruno@189-68-128-184.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:37] Nick change: scuzz -> Scuzz [10:38] im on two networks [10:38] how do i get to my other network window in irssi ? [10:39] forget it [10:39] i found it [10:39] Scuzz: dude just use screen :P [10:40] and stop pretending to be scuzz :) [10:40] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:40] lol [10:40] yeah screening it ws the plan [10:40] but i jsut had to make sure it was all started up properly [10:40] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-76-179-231-3.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [10:40] adamk (n=user@67.102.187.37) joined ##slackware. [10:41] i love slapt-get [10:42] adamk (n=user@67.102.187.37) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:42] gregsparc_ (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [10:42] just felt like saying something inflammatory ... hehe [10:43] e01 (n=OSCorp01@213.169.52.50) joined ##slackware. [10:43] i been using slapt-get actually [10:43] Action: rogersman is waiting for 5 o'clock [10:43] it was recomended to me when i started off with slackware [10:43] i use it too...but just for 3rd party stuff like googleearth & limewire, etc [10:45] Scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "leaving" [10:45] heh, at least we know he didn't click the x [10:45] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:45] scuzz (n=scuzz@d24-57-84-192.home.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:45] Nick change: gregsparc_ -> gregsparc [10:46] neonflux (n=neonflux@98.97.228.6) joined ##slackware. [10:46] if ure feeling suicidal... slapt-get --upgrade ... bang goes slackware [10:46] Nick change: scuzz -> Scuzz [10:46] slackie (n=x@cb-217-129-169-162.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:47] alicephilippa (i=alice@78.105.168.173) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [10:47] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:48] rubick (n=rc@unaffiliated/rubick) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:48] rubick (n=rc@squall.cs.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:49] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:50] frostwire is a much better client than limewire [10:50] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:50] in which respect do u find it better? im trying frost recently and well, i dont really see much difference between search results.... [10:51] both are quite shit in that respect [10:51] amule will always be my baby for the weird stuff [10:51] mag0o_ (i=20001@74.255.51.210) joined ##slackware. [10:51] Action: Zordrak just discovered his new storage servers' IPMI cards run bloody linux! [10:51] lol. [10:52] 2.6.24-ami [10:52] W|GGL|T_ (n=ron@c-68-33-193-204.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:52] morning mag0o_ [10:52] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-134-240.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [10:52] IPIMI cards? [10:53] intelligent platform management interface [10:53] whoa [10:53] skynet [10:53] running the ubiquitous busybox shell [10:53] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:53] busybox is nice [10:53] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:53] but with a shitload of gnu tools available (unusually) [10:54] so, thats a PCI card or what? [10:54] i'm using busybox for an initrd to test linuxpmi [10:54] its on-board [10:54] with its own dedicated LAN port.. but hardware bridged onto the other ports too [10:54] mag0o (i=20001@74.255.51.210) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:54] sounds good. [10:54] sounds a bit extreme to me [10:54] not that I have a clue what its good for [10:55] but it sounds good [10:56] Nick change: mag0o_ -> mag0o [10:57] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: "Leaving" [10:58] shadowx (n=7350@93.183.131.3) joined ##slackware. [10:58] O M G [10:58] O M F G [10:58] FFFF [10:58] wuh [10:58] munf [10:58] ebbeh [10:59] ? [10:59] sorry to interrupt Zordrak but, when adding a new user, i assume i have to make it part of certain groups to be fully functional in kde? [10:59] Action: Zordrak goes to find the supermicro head office so he can clean the shoes of every member of staff with his tongue! [10:59] rogersman: plugdev and a few others [11:00] need.. to.. regain.. composure.. .. .. failing [11:00] theres not really anything about it on kde's site... [11:01] rogersman: its only for extra functionality like usb drives [11:01] rogersman: if you press up when you are prompted for additional groups in adduser you can automagically get all the main groups for a user [11:01] and shutting the comptuer down. [11:01] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:01] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:01] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [11:01] join ##radeon [11:01] D'oh. [11:01] adduser actually tells you that [11:02] the IPMI has a built in virtual kvm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [11:02] ha, nice [11:02] kvm is really powerfull [11:02] Zordrak: it has a cpu... with virtual machine extensions? [11:03] nononononononononononono [11:03] unixfool (n=ron@about/slackware/wigglit) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:03] W|GGL|T (n=ron@about/slackware/wigglit) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:03] its like VNC but better.. and run out of the ipmi so it works from the second themachine starts [11:03] BIOS and everything [11:03] Scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "leaving" [11:03] Desiderius (n=DC@195.221.162.126) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [11:04] oh, THAT kvm [11:04] @sahko, yeah i just wasn't sure about *which* groups, making him a member of every one seems overkill, and prob bad security practice... [11:04] and it even has virtual CDROM/floppy devices [11:04] thats a nifty toy [11:04] i never have to plug these shits into a monitor or keyboard EVER again!!!! [11:04] its frigging AWESOME! [11:05] scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [11:05] rogersman: not really. besides power (being able to shutdown) and netdev (use wicd and networking) [11:05] Zordrak: cool. [11:05] those groups are pretty basic [11:06] and plugdev for automounting? [11:06] always plugdev [11:06] okay....chee-urs [11:06] spook: even does screen caps and everything [11:06] how do i close a query window down after im done chatting in it.. in irssi? [11:06] i cannot stress how frigging awesome this is [11:07] its like running the damn thing as a virtual machine.. but its actually its own dedicated shit-hot-hardware box [11:07] scuzz: /query ? [11:07] scuzz: /query [11:07] use /wc [11:07] its generic. [11:07] rtcg (n=rtcg@static-71-164-174-18.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:08] thanx [11:08] or /part [11:08] i think that works too [11:08] is there a way to turn off the key repeat in bash? [11:08] sorry new it irssi [11:08] gonan take some adjusting [11:08] scuzz: man irssi <-- [11:08] bah [11:08] thanx [11:08] i didnt even think of that [11:09] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [11:09] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Leaving." [11:10] thnak you spook [11:10] /wc works [11:10] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:10] explore (n=msparker@pool-173-57-92-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:10] Action: slackytude goes home [11:10] using /wc works for channels, pm, everything. [11:10] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:11] k so i can leave jsut this network by typing that correct ? [11:11] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [11:11] uh no [11:12] to leave this NETWORKING you would /disconnect freenode [11:12] scuzz: in the message window run this /wc an alias for window close [11:12] k thanx guys [11:12] i think i have the basics down now [11:12] hey, My user is a member of the power group and he can manually shutdown/restart the system from within xfce but xfce's power manager tool will not shutdown the laptop when the system battery hits the power thresh hold. [11:13] tooly (n=theo@e178166154.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [11:13] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-134-240.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:14] instead of xfce gracefully shutting the system down it passes up the thresh hold of 4% remaining and then the system just immediately goes down without proper shutdown procedure. [11:14] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [11:14] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-18-88.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:14] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:14] scuzz: http://scripts.irssi.org/ [11:15] thanx mag0o, but id like jsut to use yours [11:15] lol [11:15] i know you have some crafty scripts [11:15] novacrust (n=Crust@72.12.184.33) joined ##slackware. [11:16] how old is slackware now? 16? [11:16] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8911D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:16] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-17-254.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:17] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [11:17] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [11:18] whilst su, then command, works just fine....i cant sudo command; i type the password, and get told its not right....ideas? [11:18] rogersman: visudo [11:18] setup your user(s) [11:18] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:19] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.68.185) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:19] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [11:19] sudo is a group that needs populating then? [11:20] yes i think the wheel group [11:20] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [11:21] wheel? mm, okay, thanx [11:21] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ijrdxcnjdgibgabq) left irc: [11:21] aigon (n=ojof@92.82.69.240) joined ##slackware. [11:21] get everyone [11:21] having a problem compiling inkscape [11:22] (from SB.o) [11:22] Kaapa: #slackbuilds but have you got all the requirements? [11:22] spook: sbopkg doesn't report anything outdated; I assume the answer is yes, but may be a false assumption [11:23] http://kaapa.pastebin.mozilla.org/677724 <- error is this [11:23] iirc, SBo had all the dependencies required to run inkscape [11:23] sporten29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [11:23] m20sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [11:23] did you build and install them? [11:24] spook: I think the compiler has the problem [11:24] s/has/is [11:24] dom/io/uristream.cpp:102: error: 'strlen' was not declared in this scope [11:24] string.h wasn't included somewhere [11:25] The source probably needs to be patched. [11:25] spook: yes [11:25] AFAICT. [11:25] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [11:27] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [11:28] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Client Quit [11:28] $startkde says: $DISPLAY not set or cannot connect to x server. but if I change to runlevel 4, I can get into kde no problem. [11:28] cryptic0: startx [11:29] startx works [11:29] hurrrr [11:29] startkde wants an X server, IIRC. [11:29] startkde is for use in an xinitrc [11:29] I like to stay in runlevel 3 because runlevel 4 messes up with my mplayer. [11:29] cryptic0: xwmconfig is your friend [11:29] ah I see. [11:30] should I use xdm or kdm? [11:30] You use xdm and kdm in runlevel 4. [11:30] somehow runlevel 4 will not let me use libdvdread and/or libdvdcss [11:31] ...strange... [11:31] anyway, so what would I type to start kde from runlevel 3? [11:32] startx, assuming kde was selected in xwmconfig [11:34] ok [11:37] john_dee (n=id@93-81-138-69.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:37] wtf? onboard != embedded? 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[11:48] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:48] @cryptic0 ... if you add "exec startkde" to your .xinitrc file , startx should load kde no prob from login [11:48] thats a bit of a tenuous explanation [11:49] aigon (n=ojof@92.82.69.240) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [11:49] oh, he's gone [11:49] nevermind :-p [11:49] He returned. [11:49] rogers: I coudl not start kde with startkde after setting xwmconfig [11:49] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521bf3.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:49] ok, will try .xinitrc [11:49] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:50] I can start kde from within fluxbox. but it automatically starts a lot of applications: firefox, irc, etc etc. I wonder why. [11:50] sessions manager? [11:50] cryptic0: because you were already running those appplications when you last ran KDE? [11:50] you wanna make it start a new session on long, otherwise u get loads of crap at login [11:51] imarambiocatan_ (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [11:51] long=login [11:51] I had closed all applications last time I logged into kde [11:51] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.3.227) joined ##slackware. [11:51] its a known bug [11:51] hmmm [11:51] control centre -> advanced -> session manager [11:52] slackware 13 has KDE 4.2.4 [11:52] kde has this little feature called "restart everything I had running the last time I logged off" unless you explicitly tell it "only start programs that I have saved in my manually-saved session file" [11:52] anywayz try the above adivce and let us know how u got on [11:52] well, heck, its free software, cant really complain [11:53] ipmitool not on SBo :o [11:53] alisonken1home: I actually use that "feature" all of the time. :P [11:53] NaCl: so do I - otherwise the kid and the wife would be overloading my session startup :) [11:53] :P [11:54] alisonken1home, how do you set that session file? [11:57] first you set your session manager to "manually saved sessions only", then on the kicker panel, when you select the "Leave" tab you see an option to "Save Session" [11:58] just make sure that you have _only_ the programs you want started on _all_ of your desktops active when you click save session [11:58] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:58] ok [11:59] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:59] I don't like how you can't switch between desktops using your scroll wheel in kde. [12:00] ghett0 (n=root@88.224.21.104) joined ##slackware. [12:00] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:00] ghett0 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [12:02] Shouldn't that actually read "We don't care if your ident says \"root\" even though it's a fairly unreliable mechanism for determining the user account, we'll ban you anyway"? ;) [12:02] ide love to be able to zoom the desktop with scroll wheel *sigh* [12:02] cryptic0, Works here. [12:02] guys, when I launch svn sometimes it hopens the kde wallet for passwd management [12:02] cryptic0: btw - try scrolling your mousewheel when your mouse is o the background [12:02] any idea how I can tell it NOT to do that? [12:02] no clue why it does that [12:02] alisonken1home, thanks. that totally works! [12:03] also I disabled the load previous session option in session manager. [12:03] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [12:03] Now i want to figure out how I can reduce the start menu size. It's too big. I like smaller fonts. [12:03] Kaapa: it's in the keybindings somewhere [12:05] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-61-67.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:06] alienBOB: another typo in AST/SBo: `# "_SBo" is required for submission to slackbuild.org` [12:06] alisonken1home: keybindings.. of what, sorry? [12:07] didn't you ask about disabling the scrollwheel-change-desktop feature of kde? [12:07] alisonken1home: I asked not to fire kde passwd manager when I call svn from the shell.. [12:07] paul424 (i=1000@156.17.163.223) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [12:08] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:08] ah - sorry about that [12:08] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: "Leaving" [12:08] I missed that part [12:08] nachox (n=imarambi@190.216.26.210) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:09] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:10] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. 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[12:29] guys, I have an old server that recently complaned about a problem in the disk [12:29] like hardware problem? [12:29] that problem appears to be solved but it stays on the grub screen [12:29] I'm not familiar with grub at all... any tips ? [12:30] menu? [12:30] Kaapa: grub functional, but doesn't load the system? [12:30] You will have to google the actuall command but you can boot it to runlevel 1 and get a shell [12:31] if I enter "boot" it says kernel error 8 [12:31] or you can at least try it [12:31] Maybe you can boot a different rescue disk then chroot it? [12:31] "you need to load the kernel first" [12:33] paul424 (i=1000@156.17.163.223) joined ##slackware. [12:35] Kowalczyk (i=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.no) joined ##slackware. [12:35] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:36] antiwire1 (n=antiwire@97.94.111.202) joined ##slackware. [12:36] Nick change: antiwire1 -> antiwire [12:36] Kaapa: root (hd0,0) - your partition, kernel /path/to/kernel - specify kernel, boot - ???, profit! [12:36] or not [12:37] follow? first give it a root partition, then the kernel name and then try booting [12:39] grubconfig also works. [12:39] Mostly. [12:39] imarambiocatan_ (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:39] There is a bug that causes problems with ext4 [12:39] Which is easily remedied. [12:39] Kaapa: or like adrenaline said, boot from rescue cd, mount your disk and see if grub config or anything at all is still there :) [12:40] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:40] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:41] john_dee: yeah, machine is on it's way [12:41] it's an installation from 2001 ! [12:41] hi I use the xfce4 for the change of foot,m but no one knows how to permanently change the keyboard layout, I know itsx in settings keyboard but after fresh session everything returns to default [12:42] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A77F93.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:42] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:43] neonflux (n=neonflux@98.97.228.6) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [12:44] Zozlet (n=zon@204.249.208.221) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Zozlet (n=zon@204.249.208.221) left ##slackware. [12:45] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [12:46] Kaapa: on it's way where? :D [12:46] stickyboy (n=hugo@196.202.207.66) joined ##slackware. [12:47] bah, gobject-introspection just sucks, it's hype and that's it [12:48] I couldn't get it working, either. [12:48] john_dee: to me. I was giving remote assistance :p [12:49] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:49] Camarade_Tux: I was considering trying to get it working with wicd (for future versions) but the chances of me being able to use it anytime soon are minimal. [12:50] akSeya (i=User@201.21.160.67) left irc: "Leaving" [12:50] hi room [12:51] NaCl: I have it working but the project is basically years-away from completion [12:52] NaCl: what did you want to do with it? use it instead of pygtk? [12:52] scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "leaving" [12:52] Camarade_Tux: access udev via gudev [12:53] NaCl: hmmm, what was broken? [12:53] NaCl: oh yeah [12:53] it gives you nothing, right? [12:54] err, actually I got messed up in the library names :P [12:54] how do I set the nvidia server to start every time the session starts [12:54] Camarade_Tux: The library works fine [12:54] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: "Leaving" [12:54] paul424: that makes no sense, you have installed the nvidia drivers? if so, how? [12:54] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [12:55] open the nvidia control panel [12:55] NaCl: I was thinking about the interface provided by gobject-introspection rather, but as I said, that was more for another library (dbus) [12:55] scuzz (n=scuzz@d24-57-84-192.home.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:55] Camarade_Tux: it's the introspection stuff that's giving me trouble, and it may not work in relatively-near-future releases of Slackware. [12:55] NaCl: why the comment about the future releases of slackware? [12:56] New glib, new gtk, new pygtk, new pycairo, new pygobject [12:56] sorry for being not clear - I mean to apply the settings like gamma , contrast brightnest from nvidia settings ... they seem to open only when I start the settings client gui [12:56] Camarade_Tux: I'm just referring to the python gi-repository [12:56] unixfool (n=ron@68.33.193.204) joined ##slackware. [12:57] hmmm, I think I noticed gobject-introspection was broken with newer glibs, not sure though [12:57] I wouldn't know. [12:57] As far as I can tell, the most reliable solution would probably be to bind parts of libudev to python. [12:57] Camarade_Tux: I mean the nvidia server settings window [12:58] paul424: run nvidia-settings [12:58] NaCl: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A--ANN--ocaml-gir-0.9-alpha---binding-generator-for--glib2-based-libs-p25877025.html [12:58] note to everyone, opera is 100% vulnerable to multi-script IDN homograph attacks [12:58] NaCl: from me [12:59] Camarade_Tux: gotcha [13:00] Yeah, I'll probably just end up binding parts of libudev. [13:00] scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Client Quit [13:00] We'll see. [13:00] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [13:00] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [13:00] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [13:01] mesaGL (n=mesaGL@unaffiliated/mesagl) left irc: [13:01] NaCl: I'm using only the part of gobject-introspection that makes the .gir file (the xml one) and I have to edit it by hand [13:01] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@89-97-232-10.ip19.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [13:02] it's so unreliable that I'm even adding an attribute named "human-checked" now [13:02] heh [13:02] tooly (n=theo@e178166154.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:03] Does "pygtk-codegen-2.0" work well enough for this sort of thing? [13:03] no idea, I don't like python ^^ [13:03] Ok. [13:03] slackie (n=x@cb-217-129-169-162.netvisao.pt) left irc: "reboot" [13:03] Wicd is written in python. :P [13:03] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [13:04] ocaml is about to take over the world soon anyway -_- [13:05] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [13:05] Fun. [13:05] I'll bbl. [13:05] :) [13:07] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@89-97-232-10.ip19.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "Leaving" [13:08] hey in whcih script I can choose programs to run at the startup ? [13:08] rc.local [13:08] no. [13:09] look for +x on scripts in /etc/rc.d/ [13:10] hmm soi [13:11] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [13:12] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [13:14] antiwire : like the /etc/rc.d right ? [13:14] yup [13:14] slackie (n=x@217.129.169.162) joined ##slackware. [13:14] yeah kind of like what i typed... [13:15] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [13:16] chmod +omgwtfbbq /dev/root [13:17] paul424 (i=1000@156.17.163.223) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [13:18] great, now im craving bbq [13:18] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [13:19] haha [13:20] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:21] b33r :) [13:21] I can't open it ='( [13:21] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] better :) [13:21] yskapell (n=panthro@athedsl-4512494.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:21] Action: Camarade_Tux hugs deco [13:21] hello guys [13:21] Action: deco hugs Camarade_Tux with passion [13:21] I have a security question [13:21] Action: Zordrak immediately expects it to be moronic [13:22] Action: BP{k} has mini buhkit with meat for later (cabbotts ftw!) [13:22] I found that the operator user has operator:x:11:0:operator:/root:/bin/bash [13:22] this is not normall right? [13:22] esteeven (n=esteeven@82-32-107-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:22] its normal [13:22] yes it is. [13:22] Zordrak: watched the Formula 1 Sunday? :) [13:22] heyll yes [13:22] :-O [13:22] why that? [13:23] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [13:23] yskapell: 'cos is. [13:23] Zordrak: I did not understund [13:23] gar0t0: hows brazil doing today. we were just disucssing F1 ;) [13:24] BP{k}: felt conflicted to start with cos i thought barichello really deserved to get a brazil win and a chance at the title.. but while he was unlucky with the traffic he proved hes just too far gone.. he cant keep the pace up for the full length [13:24] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.20) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:24] Zordrak: yeah and that puncture was just shitty. [13:25] BP{k}: i still feel sorry for him.. but he just doesnt have it anymore.. he needed to put in better performances when he was still fit oneugh [13:25] true that... but it was already way too late for him [13:25] 4th or 8th.. same position for him now [13:26] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [13:27] ViN86 (i=ViN86@18.111.61.63) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:27] ViN86_ (i=ViN86@18.63.5.147) joined ##slackware. [13:27] Nick change: ViN86_ -> ViN86 [13:28] paul424 (i=1000@156.17.163.223) joined ##slackware. [13:29] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:30] hmm rc.d/rc4 does not work [13:30] Action: antiwire dies [13:30] BP{k}: hehehe!! Brazil r0x, only RJ sux [13:30] :D [13:30] Action: Camarade_Tux does CPR to antiwire [13:31] let him die Camarade_Tux. [13:32] jeev: ssshhhh, I'm taking advantage of the fact he's unconscious :) [13:32] Camarade_Tux, you're nasty [13:32] ^^ [13:32] Godfather (n=Godfathe@117.Red-88-19-153.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [13:32] that's going to be a nasty body to traverse.. it's like the sierra nevada [13:32] hi [13:33] Godfather: i need money... [13:33] where can i find /etc/modules ? [13:33] paul424 (i=1000@156.17.163.223) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [13:33] deco, just give me a favour then you can ask me. [13:33] hmmm, in /etc/modules? (except I'm not sure it exists) [13:33] Camarade_Tux, this doesnt exist in slackware i think.. [13:33] :'( [13:34] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:34] /bin/ls: /etc/modules: No such file or directory [13:34] v4nelle (n=van@adsl163-68.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:34] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.62.111) joined ##slackware. [13:34] Godfather: what do you want to do? [13:34] i want to run a module every time slackware starts [13:34] if you need to load modules at boot-time, just touch a file in /etc/modprobe.d [13:35] hm the rc.d local does not work neither [13:35] Godfather: i will beat up your daughter [13:35] Godfather, what for? [13:35] s [13:35] husband* [13:35] Godfather: oh that didn't sound right with the typos ..sorry [13:35] thrice`, i'm installing madwifi [13:35] if you want the place to dictate options to modules, /etc/modprobe.d/.conf is appropriate [13:36] thrice`, i want "modprobe ath_pci" [13:36] not a .conf file.. [13:36] then just do it :) [13:36] modules are installed to /lib/modules/ typically [13:37] thrice`, i know, but, how should i do to start automatically a module? [13:37] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.3.227) left irc: "Leaving" [13:37] i mean, the same way as inserting it on a file like debian [13:37] udev SHOULD load it automatically at boot [13:38] not creating a .conf file or something like that [13:38] thrice`: yeah...but sometimes.... [13:38] exec /usr/bin/nvidia-settings, added to rc.d/rc.local but it is not working , any clue ? [13:38] paul424: what for? [13:38] you can check out /etc/rc.d/rc.modules too [13:39] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [13:39] paul424: you're trying to run nvidia-settings which is a graphical tool while you have no graphical environment [13:40] isn't madwifi useless now? doesn't the kernel have everything? [13:40] yeah I should probably do that after my graphic desktop startup [13:40] 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) [13:41] Camarade_Tux: iirc you can run nvidia-settings as cli app [13:41] this card doesnt work under slack :S [13:41] i have a 2.6.21.5 kernel [13:41] Nick change: hexorcist -> quasar [13:43] LongeFlucht (n=chris@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] yskapell (n=panthro@athedsl-4512494.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [13:44] pprkut: maybe for batch processing but I don't think that running it without arguments will work [13:44] brb :P [13:45] pprkut: yeah, you can run it without X but only if you give additional arguments [13:45] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.48.255) joined ##slackware. [13:45] right, not without arguments [13:45] paul424: but why do you want to do that? [13:45] _bruno (n=bruno@189.68.128.184) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [13:46] _bruno (n=bruno@189-68-128-184.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:46] Camarade_Tux: thats what i been trying to figure out [13:46] maybe hes not aware his settings are saved into his xorg.conf [13:47] thrice`, thx, i'll try ndiswrapper [13:47] O_o [13:47] why not update to slackware (not-2-years-old) ? [13:47] Scuzz: yeah, that's what I'm thinking [13:48] jimi_ (n=jimi@68.166.53.50) joined ##slackware. [13:48] Godfather: on which slackware are you? [13:48] thrice`, because this is not an original slackware, is another distro based on it :-( [13:49] grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr [13:49] sorry [13:49] does anyone know of any issues regarding jabber (xmpp) with pidgin on slack64? [13:49] Action: metrofox is back [13:49] Action: slackytude installs netbeans [13:49] jimi_: nope. works. [13:49] y0 [13:49] yo slackytude [13:49] nitro25 (n=nitro25@72.230.179.21) joined ##slackware. [13:50] y0 metrofox [13:50] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [13:50] BP{k}, it works on my opteron machine but not on my Turion [13:51] Godfather, ok, good luck (you're on your own) [13:51] thrice`, lol [13:52] mmm... I can I take a photo using my webcam? [13:52] jimi_: does it mention anything? [13:52] *How [13:52] im installing it with ndiswrapper [13:52] metrofox: yes you can [13:52] and see it [13:52] and hi metrofox ;) [13:52] Camarade_Tux, yes I now and hi Camarade_Tux :P [13:52] ndiswrapper -i net5211.inf [13:52] driver net5211 is already installed [13:52] *know(fucked frozen hands) [13:52] metrofox: :) [13:52] Godfather, sorry, not sure which part of "we don't support other distros than slackware" wasn't clear :) [13:52] Camarade_Tux, i started pidgin from an xterm to check for something like that and it doesn't. my jabber account simply says it is type (unknown) [13:52] thrice`, haha [13:52] x'd [13:52] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-86-139.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:53] isn't, 2.6.21 like years old? [13:53] thrice`, its slackware :( [13:53] no, it's not [13:53] jimi_: wouldn't that be a problem in your configuration? [13:53] thrice`++ [13:53] Wait.. ##slackware doesn't support custom distros? [13:53] WTF [13:53] netbeans takes ~760mb [13:53] Hello [13:53] mmm... I'm looking for a particular tool... [13:53] y0 fredoslack [13:54] Camarade_Tux, no, because if i try to create a new account the XMPP protocol is not on the drop down list of available protocols [13:54] hi, slackytude - Camarade_Tux :) [13:54] Is cheese good? [13:54] depends [13:54] some are tasty [13:54] *Cheese(the tool) [13:54] slackytude, lol [13:54] Action: slackytude likes cheese [13:54] slackie (n=x@217.129.169.162) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:55] jimi_, if you run "ldd /usr/bin/pidgin | grep -i missing" , do you get anything? [13:55] Godfather: you're kinda black-balled now [13:55] Action: metrofox likes cheese too... But he meant the tool [13:55] thrice`, nothing [13:55] jimi_, easier, you have updated? http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware64-13.0/patches/packages/pidgin-2.6.3-x86_64-1_slack13.0.txz [13:56] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:56] thrice`, i'll check that [13:56] :/ [13:57] slackware channel doesnt support a slackware distro [13:57] gl thrice` [13:57] hi fredoslack [13:57] thanks, bye [13:57] 13:48 Godfather| thrice`, because this is not an original slackware, is another distro based on it :-( [13:57] cheese is good :) [13:57] seriously ? [13:58] this is a f*ing slackware with added programs/modules [13:58] Godfather: if a distro derives from slackware, it's different from slackware, thus we are *not* *able* to support it [13:58] Godfather, what does "cat /etc/*-version" say? [13:58] Godfather: no, actually, this is more than that [13:58] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:59] metrofox: link? [13:59] metrofox: googling for cheese won't give very good results as you can imagine ;) [13:59] http://projects.gnome.org/cheese/download [13:59] This channel supports official Slackware releases.. NOT those that are "based on" or "derivatives" of Slackware [13:59] bah [13:59] # cat /etc/*-version [13:59] Slackware 10.2.0 [13:59] metrofox: I'm sure it sucks :) [13:59] 10.2? [13:59] 10.2 [13:59] Godfather: What distro is it? [13:59] Thats like..three releases old [13:59] I'm sure ndiswrapper won't even work on that [13:59] # cat /etc/*-version [13:59] Slackware 10.2.0 [13:59] SLAX 6.0.0 [13:59] Channel flood from Godfather -- kicking [13:59] WIFISLAX 3.0 [13:59] Godfather kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [13:59] or 4..or something [13:59] Camarade_Tux, i don't know yet [13:59] You just said earlier its something thats "based" on Slackware [14:00] :) [14:00] Camarade_Tux: it will [14:00] Godfather (n=Godfathe@117.Red-88-19-153.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [14:00] O_o [14:00] You just said earlier its something thats "based" on Slackware [14:00] Slax? [14:00] ##slax [14:00] Yes, whats the prob? [14:00] it's WIFISLAX [14:00] If this is Slax... get over it. You won't find support here [14:00] straterra: good then but a bit surprising [14:00] now, wifislax, never heard of it, and slax6 is based on slackware >= 12.2 [14:00] Slax isn't just more apps and modules [14:00] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@124.43.145.76) left irc: Connection timed out [14:00] Slax is an entire distro by itself on bootable media [14:01] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [14:01] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:01] i thought it was based on slackware, not slax [14:01] metrofox: it has to be bad, it's a gnome project :D [14:01] lol [14:01] Wifislax is a Slackware-based live CD containing a variety of security and forensics tools. The distribution's main claim to fame is the integration of various unofficial network drivers into the Linux kernel, thus providing out-of-the-box support for a large number of wired and wireless network cards. " .. does that sound slike a spanish ripoff of backtrack to you? :P [14:01] feeling better, with sleep I don't get drunk as easily as I used to :) [14:02] BP{k}: yes [14:02] kowa (i=kowalczy@237-160.neasonline.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:02] BP{k}, its funny that "integration of various unofficial network drivers", and im trying to install a simply atheros module [14:02] Camarade_Tux: nothing a little cocaine won't fix -_- [14:02] fredoslack: ah, *that* cheese :) [14:02] Kowalczyk (i=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:02] Godfather: Well, then you need to take it up with the devs of WIFISlax instead of taking it out on this channel. [14:02] ViN86: he :P [14:02] Godfather: complain with the WIFISLAX devs :) [14:02] fredoslack: if you're able to build it........ [14:03] mernill (n=chatzill@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [14:03] Camarade_Tux, i prefer txz [14:03] =) [14:03] i don't know to compile [14:03] :( [14:03] Godfather, ok, ANYWAY, if you want your newer hardware supported, don't use a distro from 3 years ago [14:03] fredoslack: I don't think cheese will work without gnome [14:03] im trying to get caos working, their channel has one person that responds, and it's the guy who developed the distro... [14:03] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:04] Behold! Emperor of the 1000 year reich has arrived. Bow your sorry head for me in awe! [14:04] hmmmmmm [14:04] Action: ViN86 makes a "wtf"-face [14:04] ViN86: caos? [14:04] BP{k}: another distro afaik [14:04] sorry all [14:04] BP{k}: yea Caos NSA Linux, supposed to be easy for clustering... [14:04] and i adressed thrice` in particular! :-) [14:04] but hard for installation :) [14:05] Im going to upgrade to slackware 13 in a few minutes. Is GRUB availible as bootloader or will I need to install GRUB later? I do not get along well with LILO.. [14:05] ViN86: weren't you trying to install it after booting on usb? [14:05] stfu mernill, you don't make any sense [14:05] linXea: grub is in /extra [14:05] Dominian, Thank you [14:05] np [14:05] Camarade_Tux: i gave that up and bought a $20 SATA dvd-rom rofl [14:05] he [14:05] thrice`: your ignorance does either [14:05] Camarade_Tux: first it was slack on usb, and that was very easy [14:05] caos was not [14:06] slack is always very easy :P [14:06] plus it has very good support here [14:06] Camarade_Tux, really? have something similar to aptitude? [14:06] for caos im spending half my time wondering wht the hell to do... [14:06] yeah.. thrice` is good att "support"... [14:07] i beg to differ! [14:07] mernill: well played lol [14:07] mernill, he only support the latest version of slackware [14:07] Godfather: my "easy" is not everyone's :D [14:07] my easy is everyone's brain-dead [14:07] gnude (n=gnude@i5387B121.versanet.de) joined ##slackware. [14:08] Godfather: no, we support any but we don't think a slack 10.2 will get anybody very far with wireless [14:08] hello, interested slackware newbie has some questions [14:08] gnude: shoot! [14:08] i mean there isn't even a good list of documentation for caos, cripes... [14:08] my easy amounts to "nothing unexpected" :) [14:08] gnude: welcome to the party [14:08] welcom [14:08] when i install slackwawre, are there openoffice, gimp and firefox? [14:08] thanks [14:09] gnude, not openoffice [14:09] gnude: no, ye, yes [14:09] gnude: firefox yes, gimp yes, openoffice no [14:09] openoffice is available on slackbuilds.org however [14:09] must i load all cd's or can i load cd1 and install from internet [14:09] how it is with evolution` [14:09] can you use a DVD? [14:09] gnude: but you can install openoffice from ... *smacks Camarade_Tux* .. SlackBuilds.org [14:09] gnude: just download it from openoffice.org [14:09] at one pc not dvd drive [14:09] better install all CDs or a DVD [14:09] BP{k}: ^^ [14:09] gnude: no. evolution is too intergrated with gnome. [14:10] what is the desktop from slackware? fvwm? [14:10] gnude, kde [14:10] gnude: kde or xfce typically [14:10] ok [14:10] gnude: fvwm, blackbox, fluxbox, kde, xfce, twm [14:10] that are much. [14:10] Kowalczyk (i=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.no) joined ##slackware. [14:10] gnude, i'd purchase the dvd from slackware.com and install from that [14:10] how it the package management [14:10] gnude: good. [14:10] mesaGL (n=mesaGL@unaffiliated/mesagl) joined ##slackware. [14:10] at the moment i am debian user and are family with aptitude [14:10] or pretty lousey :-) [14:10] kowa (i=kowalczy@237-160.neasonline.no) joined ##slackware. [14:11] as long as you understand the definition of package management. [14:11] the only thing that differs from most other distributions is that it doesn't (try to) do dependencies [14:11] gnude, "family"? do you mean familiar? [14:11] yes [14:11] this i mean. [14:11] i am german [14:11] gnude, ok [14:11] no automatic .. it really sucks actually! :-) [14:11] Action: Camarade_Tux actually loves that [14:11] _MaggoT_ (n=maggot@125.161.198.60) joined ##slackware. [14:11] but i like slackware anyways [14:11] ok. i switch from ubuntu to debian because it is more technical, but now debian is not technical enough. [14:12] so slackware must be good for me [14:12] gnude, slackware is a great fit for someone who wants to understand the internals of their system [14:12] gnude: it's your dream come true my friend! [14:12] ViN86 (i=ViN86@18.63.5.147) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:12] ViN86_ (i=ViN86@18.111.61.63) joined ##slackware. [14:12] that sounds good. [14:12] Camarade_Tux, slack doesnt resolv dependences and you love that? [14:12] Nick change: ViN86_ -> ViN86 [14:12] explore (n=msparker@pool-173-57-92-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:12] dchmelik (n=d@66.243.232.25) joined ##slackware. [14:12] Godfather: absolutely [14:12] are you kidding? [14:12] how are the grapic cards are found? i have a nvidia, that works with the nv driver from x.org [14:12] why? [14:13] because it keeps morons (cough cough) away [14:13] Godfather: as I was saying on slackware-fr less than an hour ago, I wouldn't mind dependencies if they were correct, which they never are [14:13] gnude: nvidia driver works fine with slack [14:13] mernill (n=chatzill@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]" [14:13] when i load cd one, did he receive the rest from the internet, or must i load the dvd? [14:13] gnude, the latest X11 version should work without much (or any) configuration [14:13] gnude: you can install the binary nvidia driver after install [14:13] gnude, on both my acer laptop and dell desktop i didn't need to configure X at all [14:13] Axius (n=fd@92.82.87.199) joined ##slackware. [14:13] Godfather, have you tried uninstalling rhythmbox on debian? it forces you to remove gnome too [14:14] jimi_ this is the problem of debian lenny and my graphiccard, i have a crt and after install the screen is black. only after editiong the xorg.conf i see anything [14:14] gnude: you need to download all the CD's [14:14] ok [14:14] no you don't :) [14:14] or you can install over your network if you have the slack tree hosted somewhere else [14:14] gnude: installation is from CD OR premounted directory OR network (please avoid hammering the internet mirrors directly) [14:14] not a combination of them [14:14] thrice`: good one [14:14] BP{k}: yes you don't need all the CD's [14:14] gnude: if you want to download the CD's .. you only need CD's 1,2,3 (the others are source cd's) [14:15] but for all packages you do, right? [14:15] BP{k}: ahh right, too used to the DVD heh [14:15] thrice`: my most recent examples were firefox-3.5 depending on firefox-3.0 on ubuntu, and ubuntu-desktop (metapackage only) depending on firefox-3.0 so you could never uninstall firefox-3.0 [14:15] are the important packages on cd 1 like at debian? [14:15] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.14.20) joined ##slackware. [14:15] mayday-jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [14:16] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:16] gnude: just get the dvd if you can ... [14:16] thrice`, how much time do you spend installing a simply program? [14:16] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [14:16] mayday-jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) joined ##slackware. [14:16] deco: said he only has a cdrom... [14:16] depends what you define as important. :) but I do agree .. get the dvd if you can :) [14:16] _MaggoT_ (n=maggot@125.161.198.60) left ##slackware. [14:16] ok i be back later, have something to do now. but i ask you many questions when i install it on my other pc later.... [14:16] see you! [14:16] het deco, come va? [14:16] Godfather: with sbopkg? hmmm, <1 minute [14:16] Godfather, ok, we're not arguing. we like slackware, and the way it works. if you don't, please don't use it, and leave? [14:16] Godfather: with a slackbuild? same, less than a minute [14:16] gnude: there is also slackbook.org and slackbasics.org [14:16] *hey [14:17] Godfather: a few seconds. Per definition simple apps don't have dependencies, and installpkg is quite fast [14:17] metrofox: hey, i'm doing ok, and you ? [14:17] deco, I just got back from my box... I was playing drums with some friends of mine [14:17] Action: slackytude ponders buying a palm pre [14:17] oh cool :) [14:18] slackytude: or you could send me the money :) [14:18] Camarade_Tux, and then? [14:18] slackytude: you think I can run ocmal programs on it? :) [14:18] thrice` Camarade_Tux pprkut , im asking for it, not arguing that other distros are better or more producctive, i never used it [14:18] metrofox: i haven't played with a bad in like almost 2 years :P [14:18] metrofox: band* [14:18] slackytude: then, I'll keep it and buy me a new computer :) [14:18] Camarade_Tux, since it has a linux under the hood, probably [14:19] Camarade_Tux, that benefits me how? [14:19] sorry for the inconveniences [14:19] deco, it's fun... Playing drums is really a great sensation [14:19] slackytude: a good action, god will let you enter paradise :) [14:19] metrofox: yeah it is :) [14:19] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:19] deco, try it when you can =) [14:19] it helps you to feel better :D [14:20] metrofox: i have but it's impossible to really play here ... :P [14:20] Camarade_Tux, but all the good musicans are in hell. as are all my friends. [14:20] deco, why? [14:20] Godfather (n=Godfathe@117.Red-88-19-153.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:20] metrofox: apartments ... [14:20] :P [14:20] Camarade_Tux, Im not convinced [14:20] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [14:20] Id rather spend it on hookers [14:20] uh... don't you live in those houses like in films with a garage, a dog, 2 floors [14:20] slackytude: your paradise is not mine, yours is what most people call hell and if you don't give me your money, you'll end up in the clouds where nobody does nothing -_- [14:20] thrice`, update pidgin, still doesn't list XMPP on the protocol list [14:21] metrofox: no that's just fantasy i tell you [14:21] movies ... all lies [14:21] Camarade_Tux,  _  [14:21] well I also live in apartment but I play in a box near my house... I mean, I've to take bus to get there [14:21] metrofox: don't forget the basketball thing above the garage :) [14:21] deco, they might also be lies but they're cool :P [14:21] metrofox: lol [14:21] basketball thing is cool :D [14:21] slackytude: convinced now? =) [14:22] Camarade_Tux, Im still going for hookers [14:22] slackytude: fine, but please, don't go for horrible ones >< [14:22] how much for the palm pre? [14:22] you are right, I should get the palm instead [14:23] 28.5 per month with Internet flat, 20 without [14:23] and initial cost? [14:23] allows tetherig as well [14:23] none [14:23] tethering [14:24] http://www.o2online.de/ [14:25] that would be funky just for ssh [14:25] sounds like a really good deal but giving me the money is even better :) [14:26] thats not an option [14:26] its either palm or ale and whores [14:27] reaperIII (n=reaperII@41.122.216.30) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:27] ale and whores :P [14:27] you have a point there [14:27] gnude (n=gnude@i5387B121.versanet.de) left irc: "Verlassend" [14:27] reminds me I was to talk about an artist for the english course on yesterday, I talked about Dimebag Darrell, the teacher didn't know who he was ='( [14:27] mmm... A friend of mine just told me if there was a radio software for linux... Not for listening to but for speaking, is there? [14:27] Camarade_Tux: he's not an artist ! just a drunk! [14:28] metrofox, ham radio? [14:28] ham radio [14:28] Camarade_Tux, never heard of him [14:28] after cheese, now ham? :P [14:28] metrofox, yeah, it used to be included in slack up to 12.2 [14:28] slackytude: played guitar for pantera before he got killed onstage [14:28] nice way to go [14:28] slackytude: he got shot [14:28] but on stage [14:28] slackytude: Pantera's guitarist! (and Damageplan's) [14:28] thats cool [14:28] was shot on stage [14:28] slackytude, the friend of mine uses bubuntu -.-" [14:29] deco: ='( [14:29] Camarade_Tux: never liked him..... sorry [14:29] :P [14:29] metrofox, doesnt matter, there is lot and lot of stuff like that for linux [14:29] metrofox: take this whip and help him see the right pah -_- [14:29] *path [14:29] deco: die :D [14:29] Camarade_Tux: for you love :D [14:29] your* [14:30] I will thank you Camarade_Tux :P [14:30] Camarade_Tux: just a little man with a big guitar ... [14:30] deco: he :P [14:30] no.. I already thank you... [14:30] jimi_ (n=jimi@68.166.53.50) left irc: "Leaving" [14:30] deco: except he knew how to pmau [14:30] metrofox: :P [14:30] remake -.-": thank you Camarade_Tux [14:31] Camarade_Tux: i'm pissing you off aren't i ? :P [14:31] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:31] I need a page that will echo back a cookie that's passed to it. Do we know of any? Some kind of test page or something? Or even just a page that prints out headers so i can see 'Cookie' ? [14:31] deco, its a skill [14:31] slackytude: i play too, but i'm saying i never liked him [14:32] hiptobecubic, thats like 3 lines of php [14:32] slackytude, i'm not great with php, would you show? [14:33] deco: you won't manage to piss me off more than gobject-introspection :) [14:33] Nick change: imarambiocatan__ -> nachox [14:33] Camarade_Tux: ok :D [14:33] what the hell should i use to connect to a nntp server? [14:33] froogle (n=mike@64.208.214.225) joined ##slackware. [14:33] session_start(); if(!isset($_SESSION['VARIABLE'])){ print "Cookie"}; [14:34] nachox: ntpd ? [14:34] Camarade_Tux: do you like phil aselmo ? [14:34] i'm logged in as a user and konqueror won't run.. it runs under root but won't run under my username any idea why ? [14:34] grazymax (n=grazymax@host96-22-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:34] ntpd is the time server, nntp is the news protocol Dominian [14:34] froogle: run konq from the command line to find out what is going on [14:34] nachox: oh.. yeah nntp [14:34] nachox: slrn :P [14:34] hiptobecubic, you do a session_start and check if you have a variable set with isset [14:34] Dominian it just sits there with no output [14:34] nachox: slrn ? pan ? knode [14:35] from the consle? [14:35] hiptobecubic, thats about it iirc [14:35] slrn [14:35] slrn is console [14:35] that's what I use on my VPS .. [14:35] although I hardly ever check it hehe [14:35] hiptobecubic, whatever is inside the cookie will be in the $_SESSION [14:35] nachox: http://michielvwessem.wordpress.com/howto/slrn/ <-- should help you getting started [14:35] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [14:36] deco: not sure :P [14:36] Dominian: good point. [14:36] ah, lovely, i didnt even need that [14:36] Camarade_Tux: :P [14:36] a simple nc was enough to grab the banner [14:36] wierd when i do a top i have to Processes kconf_update using 100% cput [14:36] to/2 [14:38] hmm [14:38] i killed them now konqueor works [14:38] slackytude, testing.. [14:38] http://php.net/manual/en/function.session-start.php [14:39] or this: if(isset($_COOKIE)) [14:40] Action: slackytude wanders off [14:42] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:43] Camarade_Tux: cowboys fom hell is actually pretty good :P [14:44] pantera! [14:44] deco: good idea, I'll be listening to Pantera after I'm done with Pink Floyd [14:44] only 21 albums left [14:44] Camarade_Tux: heh :P [14:44] well, not albums but you get it ;) [14:45] Camarade_Tux: kamelot!!! [14:45] deco: alright, after the 21 "albums" of pink floyd and after the four of five albums of Pantera and after Damageplan's albums :) [14:45] Camarade_Tux: should be the first one :P [14:46] deco: in two or thre days? [14:46] deco: nah, they queue, it's too hard for me to manage otherwise [14:46] Camarade_Tux: ok :P [14:47] xsamurai (n=munki@75.63.87.81) joined ##slackware. [14:47] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) joined ##slackware. [14:47] hmmmm, Kamelot ΰ l'Ιlysιe Montmartre in march.... [14:47] Camarade_Tux: heh, my fav song is karma [14:48] Camarade_Tux: sonata arctica ? [14:48] sooo, i got slackware 13.0 x86, i am looking to upgrade to kernel 2.6.31-rc5 - i got it recompiled, and all but when running lilo I get the error "Fatal: Bitmap table has space for only 3 images" - i tried google and coming up lame [14:48] anyone know wtf that is? [14:48] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:48] deco: stop! I can't remember that many bands :P [14:48] Camarade_Tux: fail! :P [14:49] fnord0: did you build a bzImage, or just the "default" ? [14:49] fnord0: can you pastebin your lilo.conf? [14:49] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] Action: Camarade_Tux feels like going to bed [14:49] sure... [14:49] rk4n3, i built default [14:49] fnord0: you want to build a bzImage with "make bzImage", that's the only one that will fit [14:49] rk4n3, make && make install && make modules && make modules_install [14:49] eh [14:50] rk4n3, hmmmm really? [14:50] Camarade_Tux: i just got up -_- [14:50] make && make modules_install is all you should need [14:50] then copy the bzImage to /boot etc [14:50] IIRC, "make" doesn't build a bzImage - you have to do "make bzImage" ... maybe its changed recently ? [14:51] deco: it's almost 9pm here :D [14:51] /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot I have a bzImage [14:51] rk4n3: no, "make" does *everything* you need [14:51] Camarade_Tux: and already tired ? :P [14:51] rk4n3: what? [14:51] deco: beer :) [14:51] make builds a bzImage [14:52] Camarade_Tux: ah :P [14:52] for sure [14:52] ... it didn't used to [14:52] rk4n3, loooong ago [14:52] maybe I'm showing my age :) [14:52] rk4n3: dude.. like back in 2.4.x days [14:52] hehehe [14:52] Dominian++ [14:52] we're up to 2.4.x ? [14:52] make && make modules && make modules_install && make bzImage [14:52] haha [14:53] that was a nightmare [14:53] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [14:53] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:53] Camarade_Tux: pantera is actually good now :P [14:53] deco: die :) [14:53] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [14:53] Camarade_Tux, pastebin = http://pastebin.com/d6e6b3f3f [14:53] deco: and "Cowboys from Hell" wasn't good ? [14:53] hi [14:53] make && make install && make modules_install [14:53] or, make install modules_install [14:53] Camarade_Tux, thats my lilo.conf [14:53] hi Nigromante [14:54] Action: Nigromante salutes [14:54] Axius (n=fd@92.82.87.199) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:54] Camarade_Tux: dimebag should make a new band [14:54] deco: yeah, it would be called "Cowboys from Hell" - literally :) [14:55] Walk is another good song of theirs [14:55] r u guys saying i am compiling my kernel wrong?? [14:55] i'd be really surprised if thats the case [14:55] [OT] http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3812/nonamebj.jpg [14:55] deco: you should really die :) [14:55] Dominian: yeah, that's a good one - also, Drag The Waters [14:55] fnord0: slackwiki.org has a tutorial on kernel compiling if you want to double-check ;) [14:55] Dominian, ok, good call [14:56] rg3: lol ;p [14:56] fnord0: are you sure the bmp image is ok? [14:56] Camarade_Tux: and call it headshot [14:56] deco: why didn't you like him? [14:57] slackytude, i'm sad to say this isn't working. Your example will print 'cookie' of course because $_SESSION['VARIABLE'] doesn't get set. But I can't seem to get it to do anything else. $_SESSION['User-agent'] is blank, for example. Is $_SESSION supposed to have all of the headers in it? [14:57] Camarade_Tux, well, that bmp image is the one that came with slackware 13.0, I am using a default slackware 13.0 x86 install [14:57] Camarade_Tux, essentially [14:57] Camarade_Tux: nah i'm just messing with you , he was one of the best rythem metel guitarest [14:57] rythm* [14:57] metal* [14:58] fnord0: was wondering because of the name [14:58] vantech61 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [14:58] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-45-151-98.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:58] deco: he was both rhythm and lead [14:58] rk4n3: he sucked at lead [14:58] hence why i only mentioned rythm [14:58] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:59] deco: nah, he was very good - not always tasteful, but truly an excellent lead player [14:59] fnord0: have you tried without the image? [14:59] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:59] rk4n3: nah there [14:59] rk4n3: nah there's a lot better [14:59] deco: maybe, but he was still very good [14:59] I can say this about my configuration in "make menuconfig" (my .config file), I enabled 2 bootup logo's [15:00] I am not sure if that has anything to do with the bmp [15:00] rk4n3: imo his solos were average , it his rythms were the best [15:00] but his* [15:00] can i just go back to a regular menu system style of lilo instead of bmp? maybe that'll let me at least test the BMP? [15:00] Tom Morello is one of the best [15:00] blah [15:00] overated [15:00] just effects [15:01] morello is da man, just my vote [15:01] Action: Nigromante watches amazing lightnings through his window [15:01] heheh [15:01] deco: that's blasphemy [15:01] Camarade_Tux, hahah i see [15:01] Camarade_Tux, u just mentioned trying without the image! [15:01] xsamurai: rythms were crazy with rage but nothing omg [15:01] Camarade_Tux, good call... i just gotta remember howto do that, time to pull up some lilo docs [15:02] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:02] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@173-162-21-126-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [15:02] How can I prevent thumb drives from attempting to auto-mount? [15:03] Axius (n=fd@92.82.87.199) joined ##slackware. [15:03] fnord0: you just need to remove a line from you lilo.conf [15:03] Camarade_Tux, well, removing the BMP lines, and using message = /boot/boot_message.txt [15:04] Camarade_Tux: man cowboys from hell makes me wanna beat someone up [15:04] deco, iooooo [15:04] fnord0: what do you call "two bootup logos" in the kernel? [15:04] deco: :) [15:04] fredoslack: salut! :D [15:04] mi french mi english man [15:04] :p [15:04] lol [15:04] Action: Camarade_Tux adds Rage Against The Machine to the playlist [15:04] Camarade_Tux, that allows me to run lilo now without getting the error "Fatal: Bitmap table has space for only 3 images" [15:04] deco, i 'am waiting avec impatience [15:05] Ubuntu 9.10 <3 [15:05] and you ? :p [15:05] Sevendust, Distrubed, Slip Knot [15:05] fredoslack: hahaha one week no ? [15:05] Camarade_Tux, CONFIG_LOGO_LINUX_CLUT224=y + CONFIG_LOGO_SLACKWARE_CLUT224=y [15:05] deco, yes 29 septembre [15:05] Camarade_Tux, thats from my .config file [15:05] i think [15:05] Camarade_Tux, oh, and CONFIG_LOGO=y [15:06] deco, i am looking for kde 4.3 [15:06] Camarade_Tux, thats what i meant by 2 bootup logos [15:06] Dimebag's lead chops, early on even: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWr1VjyOQ6A [15:06] fredoslack: the website says 9 days left [15:06] on Slack current [15:06] huh CONFIG_LOGO_SLACKWARE_CLUT224=y [15:06] but je ne vois nothing [15:06] snif [15:06] Camarade_Tux, ya =) [15:06] :( [15:06] fredoslack: there's packages already built by vbatts [15:06] Camarade_Tux, im interested to see what it'll look like =) [15:06] fnord0: you said it was 2.6.32-rc5? [15:06] I am also using zen kernel patches [15:06] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) left irc: "leaving" [15:07] Camarade_Tux, linux-2.6.32-rc5 [15:07] fnord0: that explains it... [15:07] fredoslack: http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/kde/kde4-packages/4.3.1/ [15:07] ok [15:07] kowa_ (i=kowalczy@237-160.neasonline.no) joined ##slackware. [15:07] 4.3.2 is latest [15:07] Camarade_Tux, explains what? zen? i never tried these before... [15:07] deco, i prefer officel' packages [15:07] :( [15:07] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) joined ##slackware. [15:07] official * [15:07] fredoslack: but vbatts are really good [15:08] fnord0: well, and if you use CONFIG_LOGO_LINUX_CLUT224=n ? [15:08] another set of Dimebag gems, incredibly respectable lead work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGzKsz9DO-o [15:08] kowa (i=kowalczy@237-160.neasonline.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:08] Nick change: kowa_ -> kowa [15:09] I want to have a minimal install including some pkg from x series. Can someone a give rel link? [15:09] Kowalczyk (i=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:09] link of what? [15:10] Axius: install everything from x/ except compiz [15:10] calopteryx (n=calopter@82.213.180.111.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:10] Camarade_Tux, CONFIG_LOGO_LINUX_CLUT224=y and CONFIG_LOGO_SLACKWARE_CLUT224=y - those are the only ones i used [15:10] Axius: really, don't try a partial install of x/ if you don't want to run into troubles [15:10] Camarade_Tux, u thinking i should just try 1 image? i havent tried THAT yet [15:11] fnord0: I'd try without the patches actually [15:11] Camarade_Tux, in the kernel config? [15:11] Camarade_Tux, ahhh [15:11] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.157.147) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:11] I dont want to have a dw either! [15:11] Camarade_Tux, i was hoping u wouldnt say that... someone on linuxquestions.org gave me the idea [15:11] fnord0, whats the prob [15:12] fnord0: well, try without, see if it works [15:12] Camarade_Tux, they said this exact combo of 2.6.32-rc5 + zen works (on slackware 13.0 x86_64... i figured i'd try on x86) [15:12] Camarade_Tux, ok, i hear ya [15:13] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:13] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:13] Camarade_Tux, first I trying without bmp in lilo, as that let lilo work --- lemme just make certain tho, u understand that the kernel compiles fine, the ONLY time i have trouble is when i run "lilo" from command line, is where I get that error = "Fatal: Bitmap table has space for only 3 images" [15:14] fnord0: yeah, got it [15:14] fnord0: I'm not telling you to completely drop the patches, I'm only telling you to try without [15:14] one, two, three, four :) [15:15] Kowalczyk (i=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.no) joined ##slackware. [15:15] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders if the tuxes count for an image and if the smaller tux counts for another one [15:15] slackytude, http://dpaste.com/109875/ I know this is butchered :D but are those headers supposed to be in $_SESSION or did we misunderstand one another? [15:16] hiptobecubic, first line is not needed for apache, testing for $_SESSION['Cookie'] is not gona work. try isset($_COKKIE [15:17] isset($_COOKIE) [15:17] Camarade_Tux: what tuxes are you talking about ? [15:17] hiptobecubic, sure about Print_r? [15:18] Scuzz cats with tuxedo [15:18] lol [15:18] slackytude, not at all, i just googled a bit looking for a print func that would print an entire array without know what's in it yet [15:19] Scuzz: http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/7/18/128924095965184668.jpg [15:19] steiger_ (n=steiger@189.105.81.246) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:19] haha [15:19] i thought you gave the cat thing up [15:19] Scuzz: i did but i dunno something inside me ... [15:19] hiptobecubic, its a small p => print_r or try var_dump [15:19] grrrrr trying to forget [15:19] Scuzz: the one at the top here http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Knoppix-3.8-boot.png [15:19] hiptobecubic, maybe ask #php [15:20] i thought those were for how many cpus you have [15:20] deco: ^^ [15:20] dual core = 2 tuxes [15:20] Scuzz: yeah [15:20] Scuzz: but a coprocessor gives you a smaller tux [15:20] slackytude, #php has yet to respond at all :) I found a way to print more or less what i need, thank you. Now i just need to fiddle with it. [15:20] phzin (n=StupidX@189.57.19.89) left irc: "Stupid[X] 3.4 Coded by xraphael - [X]" [15:20] like a playstation has some [15:20] hrm [15:20] i never knew that [15:20] Camarade_Tux, that's nifty [15:21] hiptobecubic, tried tossing a donut into #php? that usually wakes them up [15:21] Camarade_Tux: i want tux back, i hate taz :( [15:21] _MaggoT_ (n=maggot@125.161.202.64) joined ##slackware. [15:21] me too [15:21] slackytude, no donuts yet. People are talking, just not to me :) [15:22] thats bad [15:22] <_MaggoT_> slackytude, [15:22] deco: I can't here you θηθ [15:22] _MaggoT_, [15:22] <_MaggoT_> slackytude, : i forget u site [15:22] s/θηθ/-_-/ [15:22] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-71-75.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "guess why . eheh" [15:22] Linux jarjar 2.6.32-rc2 #13 [15:22] _MaggoT_, huh? [15:23] stig_ (n=stig@173.80-202-229.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [15:23] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:23] plee (n=kurt@83.243.165.183) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:23] <_MaggoT_> slackboy, :your site xxxnoob.com if not wrong [15:23] O_O [15:23] slackytude: you got a fan [15:23] uh [15:24] slackytude has many fans instead... [15:24] but I've deco's shirt "deco ......... " [15:24] Action: slackytude slowly edges away [15:24] metrofox: \o/! [15:24] HAHA [15:25] i have to get [15:25] deco: mon cheri \o/ [15:25] winter, you want one? [15:25] winter: c'est moi mon cheri \o/ [15:25] slackytude: forget that, run man, run. :P [15:25] deco, :o what's that french? ;( [15:25] y0 fire|bird [15:26] hey fire|bird [15:26] Action: slackytude runs [15:26] slackytude: How's it going? [15:26] hey metrofox [15:26] metrofox: it's me my dear [15:26] lol [15:26] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [15:26] fire|bird, good. thinking about gettinng a palm pre? you? [15:26] slackytude: doing great, thanks. [15:26] deco, no it's not you... You liked italian... Ohhh ;( [15:27] metrofox: i like all of southern europe and france :P [15:27] Action: metrofox now burns deco's shirt and buys a new one... "slackytude ..... " [15:27] no!!!!! :( [15:27] slackytude: hero of stylistics [15:28] boobfarm :) [15:28] deco: metrofox's italian [15:28] winter: no shit dude lol [15:28] i know ;-) [15:28] oh. [15:28] mac- (i=mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:28] hello [15:28] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-71-75.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:28] hi mac- [15:29] calopteryx (n=calopter@82.213.180.111.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:29] in which package I can find /bin/stat ? [15:29] in stat [15:29] if i make some "deco ....." shirts in black will you guys buy them ? [15:29] depends [15:30] in black yes [15:30] any good slogan? [15:30] they will be name because i have the right equipment to make them .. [15:30] be nice* [15:30] deco, free? [15:30] each irc'er should wear a shirt with his/her nick on it [15:30] metrofox: i said buy -_- [15:30] mmm... :D [15:30] winter: good i idea :D [15:31] i'll make them... [15:31] It's hard to me buying them... [15:31] no need [15:31] i'll tell my gran ny to make one sweeter for me [15:31] deco, you deliver it to me, I wear it [15:31] mac-: coreutrils? [15:31] I should also pay shipping prize! [15:31] slackytude: but you'll pay right ? [15:32] deco, pay? Im not following you [15:32] slackytude: i'm gonna sell those shirts... [15:32] I'm having trouble mounting a windows network share, I continually get: error(6): No such device or address [15:32] Cryp71c, whats th [15:32] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:32] Cryp71c, whats your command? [15:32] I'm using: mount -t cifs //x.x.x.x/shareName /home/cryp71c/test -o username=user,workgroup=domain [15:32] deco, if you lived in Italy or in Europe I could buy them :D [15:33] basictracks (n=peter@212-182-139-194.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:33] metrofox: hahaha :P [15:33] kleanchap (n=chatzill@93.195.0.229) joined ##slackware. [15:33] Camarade_Tux: I have /usr/bin/stat but don`t know why rc.udev want /bin/stat ??? [15:33] Elektro (n=elektr0@85.84.204.34) joined ##slackware. [15:33] deco, you're so far away, it's also good because when I'll come to the U.S. I'll live with you 'til I won't buy a new house [15:34] Axius (n=fd@92.82.87.199) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:34] gnude (n=gnude@i5387B121.versanet.de) joined ##slackware. [15:34] here i am back. [15:34] installing slackware on the test - pc [15:34] gnude, well done! [15:34] slackytude, any idea whats going on? I can ping the ip address in question (in fact the physical machine is here locally, for the time being) [15:34] metrofox: but....hmmmmm well...ok :P [15:34] i will take a look at it and then decide ... change to slackware or stay at debian [15:34] furthermore, I can successfully nmap it as well. [15:34] deco, I'll teach you a little Italian ^^ [15:35] metrofox: but bring an italian girl ok ? [15:35] Cryp71c, wrong share name? mountpoint exists? [15:35] a serious question now... How much are a pair of converse? [15:35] basictracks (n=peter@212-182-139-194.ip.telfort.nl) left ##slackware. [15:35] now i go to make a coffee [15:35] deco, of course! [15:35] stig (n=stig@173.80-202-229.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:35] metrofox: ok :D, hmmm ive never bought a pair of those [15:35] mac-: coreutils gives /bin/stat [15:36] Mountpoint exists, all the error says is retrying with upper case share name \n mount error(6): No such device or address [15:36] (the \n is a line break, ofc) [15:36] deco, around 50$? [15:36] metrofox: hmmm i don't know really...i only buy $20 shoes lol [15:36] how do i do a netboot, anyone know? [15:37] deco, yeaahhh! [15:37] Camarade_Tux: ok, now I have it, after upgrade coreutils to newest [15:37] nvm [15:37] <_MaggoT_> any1 want give me some pratice?but dont to hard because still newbie :p [15:37] Camarade_Tux: and now, where can I find libcap.so.2 ? [15:37] hmmmm, porn http://www.win.tue.nl/~bdeweger/PS3Lab/DSC00943.JPG [15:37] mmm [15:37] mac-: well, you should rather have a full install because you're probably going to lack another dozen of packages [15:38] metrofox: yes you can click ;-) [15:38] Camarade_Tux, WOW! [15:38] that's hardcore! [15:38] calopteryx (n=calopter@82.213.180.111.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:38] look at the size of it!!! my god! [15:38] mf1 (n=notatrol@pool-173-70-80-28.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] gn [15:38] ΰ demain =) [15:38] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-86-139.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [15:38] Camarade_Tux, if I couldn't I clicked! [15:39] all that you tell me not to do I do :P [15:39] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) joined ##slackware. [15:39] deco: 200 at once [15:39] metrofox: don't send me 1000 euros :) [15:39] Camarade_Tux: poor girl :( [15:39] Camarade_Tux: what? [15:39] where's that porn [15:39] Camarade_Tux, ok you said that D: [15:39] *:D [15:40] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:40] winter, why are you so interested? :D [15:40] Camarade_Tux: and now, where can I find libcap.so.2 ? [15:40] Action: winter shifts into darkness [15:40] whoa [15:40] nice trick [15:40] you're so shy winter :P [15:40] calopteryx (n=calopter@82.213.180.111.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:41] slackytude, worked. bad share name as it turns out. [15:41] Action: deco is waiting for winter in the darkness [15:41] ^-^ [15:41] calopteryx (n=calopter@82.213.180.111.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:41] libcap [15:41] deco, you love summer? :D [15:41] metrofox: nah it's too hot in california [15:41] slackytude, I wanted to try and mount the server without a network share but mount reports "Mounting the DFS root for a particular server not implemented yet" [15:42] Is there any other way to accomplish that? [15:42] deco, we've the same clime ;) [15:42] Cryp71c, no [15:42] he is installing [15:42] not even with some other utility other than mount? [15:42] sicily and california are both hot ;) [15:42] Cryp71c, no [15:42] metrofox: yeah :P [15:42] slackytude, so you're telling me all linux users currently suffer from not being able to mount a server without explicitly knowing its share name? [15:42] calopteryx (n=calopter@82.213.180.111.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:43] deco, have you never been in NYC? [15:43] Cryp71c, all users. its the same in win [15:43] where can i find openoffice? on openoffice.org are only rmp or deb packages [15:43] metrofox: no and i hope i never will ... [15:43] Cryp71c, but you can browse the share names and there is always C$ [15:43] slackytude, no I can go to //192.168.1.100 on a windows box and get a list of all available network shares. [15:43] deco, why not? [15:43] slackytude, how can you browse the share names? [15:44] Cryp71c, smbtree for instance [15:44] metrofox: i have family there... and they say people california looks empty ... wtf i can't imagin the amount of people in nyc [15:44] Cryp71c, smbclient can do it too. [15:44] s/people// [15:44] Cryp71c, dolphin in kde4 does it as well. lots of ways [15:45] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [15:45] it worked guys [15:45] just disabling BMP boot [15:45] interesting installation [15:45] looks nice [15:45] options in lilo.conf [15:45] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:45] deco, I've always been dreaming NYC, let's say I love all USA but NYC precisely [15:46] metrofox: heh :P [15:46] froogle (n=mike@64.208.214.225) left ##slackware. [15:46] when i install xinitrc.fvwm2, are all programms integrated at the menues? [15:46] deco, mmm... You don't seem to be convinced, why? :P [15:46] my intel 82865G video works with slackware 13.0 AND KDE4 using kernel 2.6.32-rc5 + zen + xf86-video-intel-2.9.0, hallalujah [15:46] metrofox: because all the movies lie... lol :P [15:47] deco, I don't wanna live like movies show! I mean, I won't refuse that kind of life but it's all the same to me :D [15:47] slackytude, smbtree seems to be leaving out two of our servers, is it dependent on subnet or anything like that? [15:47] installation complete. decieded for fvwm2 [15:47] reboot [15:47] Cryp71c, smb is inside a subnet without WINS [15:48] Cryp71c, but I couldnt say [15:48] finally got around to fixing my laptop to keep from losing my work when a kids push the power button [15:48] gnude: good choice [15:49] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [15:49] metrofox: the only way to really know is to come visit here :P [15:49] Cryp71c, ask #samba [15:49] metrofox: *do* *not* :D [15:49] ^ [15:49] Cryp71c, its halloween soon, so they should be awake [15:49] deco, I will live there instead :D [15:50] metrofox: ok but i will be in europe XD [15:50] lol [15:50] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:50] deco, :O in europe? what's europe so beauty? :D [15:51] the women? [15:51] metrofox: see it's the same thing [15:51] slackytude, yes... some of them are beautiful :D [15:51] http://www.guzer.com/pictures/europe_vs_usa.jpg [15:51] SFW [15:51] lol [15:51] rotfl [15:52] slackytude, in california there are also beauty girls :P [15:52] metrofox: but a lot of fatties ... [15:52] muahahaha [15:52] wait, how old are you again? I meant the butterflies, beautifull things [15:52] deco, in italy there are fatties girls too... =) [15:52] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [15:53] slackytude, are you talking to me? [15:53] slackytude: guten tag! [15:53] just mumbling to meself [15:53] oliver kahn! [15:53] _bruno (n=bruno@189-68-128-184.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [15:53] deco, meh, getting old [15:53] slackytude: i know.... [15:53] ^-^ [15:53] slackytude, :o you speak to yourself :O [15:54] ok here it is plain and simple [15:54] rworkman, ping? [15:54] metrofox: the movies lie! [15:54] deco, this picture also lie: http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/nonciclopedia/images/6/6a/Adamo.jpg [15:54] to quote gandalf [15:54] GANDALF Riddles? No. I was just talking out loud to myself. A habit of the old. They choose the wisest person to speak with. [15:55] gandalf? [15:55] O_o [15:55] the white wizard! [15:55] You don't know who Gandalf is? [15:55] you dont know Gandalf? [15:55] we we... stay calm [15:55] I know who he is [15:56] he is the old man looking like God.. [15:56] .... [15:56] .. [15:56] . [15:56] they dont teach anything in the school these days [15:56] nope [15:56] slackytude, school here sucks! [15:56] :P [15:56] :O Deco made a new shirt [15:57] "deco .... [15:57] .. [15:57] ." [15:57] 20 bucks [15:57] bitches [15:57] metrofox: now decode what it says. [15:57] plus shipping [15:57] but 20 for all sizes [15:57] fire|bird, he said "...." [15:57] so the fatties don't get extra charged [15:57] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [15:58] Well there's four "...." so that's probably "deco" :P [15:58] deco: shirt design? [15:58] nyRednek: black shirt that has "deco ...." [15:58] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [15:58] Small Q: does 4500mhd work reasonably under slack12.2 with the right tweaks? [15:59] if anyone says sometihng stupid just point your shirt [15:59] "deco ...." [15:59] rotfl [15:59] something* [15:59] deco: ok...i have a shirt that says "i went to israel and all i got was this f'ing stamp in my passport" along with an entry denied stamp on it [15:59] lol [15:59] mikl0 (n=mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:59] Wow, 333 people in here. [15:59] mikl0 (n=mikl0@cpe-66-68-239-227.rgv.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:00] and there one went [16:00] 332 [16:00] deco: wife screen printed one for UK [16:00] 332 [16:00] mmm [16:01] so hers says, "i went to the uk and..." [16:01] man I hate it when I cant find my lighter [16:01] nyRednek: hehe [16:01] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.62.111) left irc: "Leaving." [16:01] slackytude, I won't even see cigarettes... [16:01] slackytude: you're going to set deco's shirt on fire? [16:01] fire|bird, nice idea. but probably not. that sounds like work [16:01] fire|bird, he's smoking I guess [16:01] haha [16:02] well, I would be smoking if I had my lighter [16:02] Quick! Toss some water on him. He's not yet extinguished. [16:02] Action: slackytude wanders off [16:02] use not finding the lighter as a reason to quit. [16:02] slackytude, you won't because God wants to save you [16:02] Action: nyRednek packs a pipe [16:02] m20sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:03] Action: Camarade_Tux waves at fire|bird :) [16:03] well, screw him then [16:03] i wonder if police actually think about the worst words they could hear across a door when they try to knock in [16:03] archiac (n=dscott@adsl-215-247-191.aep.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] y0 Camarade_Tux [16:03] i'd think the worst thing they could possibly hear after they yell "police" after knocking would be "fire in the hole" [16:04] I wasnt even aware I needed to be saved [16:04] xsamurai (n=munki@75.63.87.81) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:04] and there he goes, stealing my lighter, trying to save me [16:04] I dont call that customer service. I shall need to issue a complaint to the managment [16:05] and the management would be? [16:05] well, god's boss I assume [16:06] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [16:06] you're wrong then [16:06] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:06] great [16:06] y0 dive [16:07] bimbo (i=1000@189.194.68.132) joined ##slackware. [16:08] kleanchap (n=chatzill@93.195.0.229) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [16:08] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [16:11] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:11] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:11] Action: Camarade_Tux is god's boss [16:11] I'm Camarade_Tux's boss. [16:12] Action: deco I'm fire|bird's boss [16:12] how can a mythical being be boss? [16:12] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [16:12] s0d0: nah, he's nobody :) [16:12] just a lost soul... [16:13] Where am I? :P [16:13] limbo [16:14] Paz (n=Paz@adsl-70-233-135-117.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:14] I tried that once, got my wing caught, long story, don't ask. :P [16:15] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luzs63dGHQs&feature=player_embedded ^^ [16:15] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-61-67.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [16:17] deco, I have a complaint about a few of your underlings [16:17] slackytude: which one was it this time ? [16:17] fire|bird: ? [16:17] deco, apparently ΄, someone underr you supervision sneaked into my rooms and stole a lighter [16:17] this aggresion against the slackytude cannot stand [16:17] slackytude: oh.... it was the bird [16:18] likes to play with fire [16:18] go figure :/ [16:18] ah, true [16:18] its so obvious now [16:18] yeah [16:18] ^^ [16:18] since I found my lighter, I wont demand his death right now [16:19] \o\ [16:19] /o/ [16:19] \o\ [16:19] /o/ [16:19] \o\ [16:21] davanger (n=davanger@95.61.66.125) joined ##slackware. [16:21] slackytude: ='( [16:21] can someone point me to where I can download a pkg for the latest build of MONO? [16:21] why is deco spared the kicks? he speshul? [16:21] i tried to build from the source and I'm getting errors [16:21] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [16:22] Camarade_Tux, ? [16:22] mancha: damn right ... [16:22] :) [16:22] slackytude: why not ask for his death? ='( [16:22] he, sbo has no mono sb [16:22] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:22] Camarade_Tux, Im a bastard but even I wont suggest death penalty for stealing my lighter [16:23] davanger, mono worked quite fine for me [16:23] slackytude: that's because you don't know what he did with :) [16:23] Camarade_Tux, O_o [16:23] where did you get it? [16:23] deco: yeah, speshul needz. :) [16:23] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-229-143.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:24] fire|bird: :) [16:24] slackboy's kicks are easy to avoid once you know when they trigger actually [16:24] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@220-136-229-143.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:24] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@220-136-229-143.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:24] Camarade_Tux: shhhh ;-) [16:25] deco should have been kicked by that 5 line nonsense. :P [16:25] Action: _MaggoT_ bored :( [16:25] fire|bird: it was dna!! [16:25] .... [16:25] ...... [16:25] good night [16:25] night g4tt0 [16:25] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-168-237-38.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [16:26] xsamurai (n=munki@75.63.87.81) joined ##slackware. [16:26] karonte (n=karonte8@host24-12-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:26] lets start a weave dude! [16:26] \o\ [16:26] deco: no [16:26] windows would be so much better with a "Always on top" Option for windows [16:26] slackytude: AHK :) [16:26] gnude (n=gnude@i5387B121.versanet.de) left irc: "Verlassend" [16:26] slackytude: I have one ;) [16:27] has rpm2cpio been removed from rpm2tgz pkg ? [16:27] bimbo (i=1000@189.194.68.132) left ##slackware. [16:27] Camarade_Tux: dimebag should earn headshot of the year award [16:27] slackytude: that's what she said. [16:27] deco: :) [16:27] karonte (n=karonte8@host24-12-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "mIRC -SagittarioScript- v4.0 b14 By Sagitt" [16:27] xsamurai: *maybe* it's in rpm rather [16:27] Camarade_Tux, AHK ? [16:28] slackytude: like http://justanasterisk.com/autohotkey-win-on-top-2/ [16:28] slackytude: http://www.autohotkey.com/docs/commands/WinSet.htm [16:28] Camarade_Tux: it hurts.... ;-) :P [16:28] bimbo (i=1000@189.194.68.132) joined ##slackware. [16:30] Camarade_Tux: ... thanks, dont use rpm's much hence the stupid question [16:30] <_MaggoT_> deco fire|bird slackytude Camarade_Tux : tell me what i must do for make me more better with slackware [16:30] _MaggoT_: use it plain and simple [16:30] xsamurai: I said maybe because I don't have rpm installe actually :D [16:30] hello, I'm running xfce, when trying to mount a removable device as a normal user from within thunar I'm unable to, it throws an error: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules (...), the groups the user belongs to are: users lp wheel floppy audio video cdrom plugdev power netdev scanner [16:30] _MaggoT_, read, experiment, learn [16:30] Camarade_Tux: dont doubt yourself , its there [16:30] is there any other group the user should belong to in order to be able to mount removable devices? [16:30] =) [16:30] anyone know a nice simple image browser? [16:30] Camarade_Tux, nice if ugly [16:30] xsamurai: \o/ [16:31] acidchild, ? [16:31] acidchild: gpicview [16:31] i use gwenview on my desktop, but its so sluggish for my 800mhz laptop [16:31] rogersman1 (n=root@78.144.106.124) joined ##slackware. [16:31] slackytude: and there's alt+left click to move windows too :) [16:31] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [16:31] rogersman1 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [16:31] and alt+right-click of course :) [16:31] he, working [16:31] Camarade_Tux [16:31] Camarade_Tux, nice [16:31] fire|bird: i can browse with that? [16:31] je mapelle adrien. [16:31] Camarade_Tux, real nice [16:31] jeev: I love you to [16:32] jeev: ^^ [16:32] Camarade_Tux, how? [16:32] eww [16:32] since when do we ban root users again? [16:32] acidchild: Thinking about it now, I'm not sure. :P [16:32] <_MaggoT_> lol [16:32] or is it just like 'display' [16:32] or 'xv' :P [16:32] slackytude: I'm betting on: yaxm.org/!ahk+kde+drag [16:32] acidchild, gqview, riesseto? [16:32] <_MaggoT_> lastday at first time use slackware im also login xchat on root [16:32] acidchild: probably not, http://lxde.sourceforge.net/gpicview/ [16:32] gqview mmm maybe [16:32] ./configure: line 40818: syntax error near unexpected token `(' [16:32] slackytude: since a few days [16:32] nand (n=nand@188.24.14.152) joined ##slackware. [16:32] <_MaggoT_> but got warning after that i go make new user [16:32] Camarade_Tux, oy [16:33] crap ='( [16:33] acidchild, my static route works nicely now [16:33] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "leaving" [16:33] cool [16:33] oh, fifth google result :) [16:33] oi! oi! oi! [16:33] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [16:33] Camarade_Tux, will check that [16:33] deco, Im TNT [16:33] slackytude: oi! oi! oi! [16:34] Action: Camarade_Tux adds ACDC to his playback list [16:34] deco, Im Dynamite [16:34] slackytude: oi! oi! oi! [16:34] *KABOOM* [16:34] ..... [16:34] its pronounced Dynoooomite [16:34] anyone? [16:34] Action: slackytude tries to remeber [16:35] is dropline working with slackware 13? [16:35] s/remeber/remember/ ;) [16:35] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95.27.61.67) joined ##slackware. [16:35] well, yeah [16:36] davanger: the questions should be does gnome work ? [16:36] question* [16:36] I'm a power-load [16:36] T.N.T. [16:36] Watch me Explode [16:36] oi! oi! oi! [16:36] 8-) [16:36] *KABOOM* [16:36] there he goes [16:36] lol [16:36] sunglasses to watch slackytude explode :) [16:36] uh [16:36] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [16:37] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] Action: slackytude goes KABOOM [16:37] hello [16:38] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@173-162-21-126-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:38] i have some trouble configuring wlan in slack 13 [16:38] wicd [16:38] nand: iwconfig [16:38] it gets dhcp ip but then disconnects... and i can ping the router [16:38] fire|bird: i switched back to xfce \o/ lol [16:38] router is in resolv.conf and can't ping google [16:38] deco, fire|bird me too [16:38] slackytude: \o/ [16:38] \o/ [16:39] i'm on xfce too, but that doesn't help [16:39] :P [16:39] high five o/ [16:39] nand: can you ping the gw or other nodes on the network ? [16:39] lucius_ (n=lucius@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:39] guys, i have kind of an emergency here. I need something green that begins with J [16:39] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "Leaving" [16:39] lucius_, Jade [16:39] Juju beans ? [16:39] Joule? [16:39] lucius_: jeev ? [16:40] i could ping the gateway [16:40] Joule? [16:40] something I can dress up as, its a fancy dress and all I have is green [16:40] fuck... my usb stick won't mount [16:40] brb [16:40] JuJu beans? [16:40] oh and it has to being with J [16:40] slackytude: yeah, I hadn't read it had to be green -_- [16:40] lucius_: juju bean then :D [16:41] dict! [16:41] pthreat (i=c8319e97@gateway/web/freenode/x-xiwwhzvvvovjfuzc) joined ##slackware. [16:41] lucius_: jailbait ? [16:41] Is there a way for ps to avoid listing the calling process ? [16:41] thanks guys, appreciated [16:41] lucius_ (n=lucius@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Client Quit [16:42] maybe Im crazy but isnt Jade green? [16:42] jacket? jackass? jackpot? jade? jaguar (a mutant one could be green)? jam (if it's old enought, it's going to be ok)? [16:42] I know!!!!!! [16:42] Judas Priest!!! [16:42] breaking the law!! [16:42] wtf? [16:42] slackytude: you don't know who judas priest is ? [16:42] jellyfish, jerk, journalist [16:43] I know, but green? [16:43] deco: come one, I'll never gonna be able to queue that many things :o [16:43] slackytude: oh hmmmm hell bent for leather ? blah gives up [16:43] never saw green jellyfish [16:43] Camarade_Tux: lol [16:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade [16:43] its jade [16:43] slackytude: that's because you don't go out enough -_- [16:43] deco: good choice. ;) [16:43] fire|bird: :P [16:44] Im not sure I want to go out in a place I might see green jellyfish [16:44] you prefer gren jaguars? [16:44] no, rather Joules [16:45] sorry, Joule [16:45] he :P [16:45] Camarade_Tux: hallow by thy name :o [16:45] slackytude: http://yaxm.org/!green+jellyfish [16:46] slackytude: see http://www.newscientist.com/data/galleries/dn14895-chemistry-nobel-for-green-jellyfish-protein/mice.jpg ? [16:46] green jublees [16:46] like she hulk [16:47] Camarade_Tux, my girlfriend cuts those tiny shit mice up in lab [16:47] nasty [16:47] jhw (n=jhw@p548F72A4.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:48] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Connection timed out [16:48] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [16:48] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-140-143.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:49] <_MaggoT_> any1 already try explosion on desktop system settings? [16:49] huh? [16:49] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62.47.129.1) joined ##slackware. [16:49] <_MaggoT_> that kde stuff [16:49] <_MaggoT_> like compiz [16:49] <_MaggoT_> make explosion when u close the windows [16:49] jeev: be thankful you have a gf [16:50] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Client Quit [16:51] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui" [16:52] jeev: Send her to me. I don't mind a woman that ain't scared to cut up critters. Quite the contrary. It'd be refreshing to have a girl friend help me butcher a deer or hog. [16:52] and drink its blood together while its still hot [16:53] No. No blood drinking would take place. That's just freaky shit. [16:53] heh [16:53] lot of natives did that. eat heart or lover [16:53] er [16:53] liver [16:54] stickyboy (n=hugo@196.202.207.66) left irc: "leaving" [16:55] people's relationship to their meals and their approach to usage/waste would greatly increase if they killed their own dinners [16:55] s/increase/improve [16:55] Or the cost of meat rose dramatically. [16:56] ViN86 (i=ViN86@18.111.61.63) left irc: "Leaving" [16:56] both ^-^ [16:56] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [16:57] and we'd probably be smaller [16:57] except for fire|bird, that's not possible ^^ [16:57] I think even sending a critter you'd raised to slaughter would be adequately jarring. [16:58] I'm so hungty... I think I'll eat something with nutella [16:58] Man-erg (n=meck@93.40.64.103) joined ##slackware. [16:58] right, it all gets distorted when it's so far removed: purchase a packaged lump at the supermarket [16:59] Freudian slip there.? [16:59] Action: slackytude nods [16:59] *hungry [16:59] Alan_Hicks, nah [17:00] Actually planning to make chili tonight, so I guess I'm eating ex-critter. [17:00] archiac (n=dscott@adsl-215-247-191.aep.bellsouth.net) left irc: [17:00] who want a nutella brioche? [17:00] Bletch! [17:00] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "leaving" [17:01] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [17:01] caoliver, don't you like nutella? :O [17:01] nutella is europe's solution to thin&fit [17:01] Nutella brioche should be filed along with sardine and pickle ice cream. [17:01] it's fucking good :D [17:01] shit, wicd is working xD [17:01] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:02] nand, why... Shouldn't it? [17:02] anybody pls hint me how to make it autostart with x? [17:02] nachox (n=imarambi@190.216.26.210) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:02] change rnlevel [17:02] to 5 [17:02] mesaGL (n=mesaGL@unaffiliated/mesagl) left irc: [17:02] caoliver: not on slack [17:02] to 4 [17:02] nand, you want to autostart X or wicd? [17:03] i had trouble with wpa_supplicant, i thought i was in deeper trouble [17:03] Ok. Misremembered. [17:03] Was it 5 on Suns? [17:03] well, both [17:03] cao, it's fine, it is distrib-dependent so it's just an unimportant detail [17:03] but i used to do graphical login by changing the runlevel [17:03] nand, chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd [17:03] john_dee (n=id@93-81-138-69.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [17:03] I'm just trying to remember. (unsuccessfully) [17:03] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-22.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:03] nand, change the default runlevel to 4 and you'll boot to X [17:04] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@173-162-21-126-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [17:04] /etc/inittab or summit [17:04] nand: chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd then edit your /etc/inittab to make the default runlevel 4 [17:04] gabriel (n=gabriel@200.1.19.140) joined ##slackware. [17:05] wubbster (n=wubbster@24.206.157.137) joined ##slackware. [17:05] hi, somebody can help me with a bluetooth device? [17:05] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "caindo fora" [17:05] ok, thanks [17:05] i'll try now [17:06] using obexftp i got a error: Invalid argument, slack64-current [17:06] sounds like it ain't parsing the host type very well [17:07] nand: and to get there without rebooting /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd start && init 4 [17:07] is a lego robot with bluetooth comunication [17:07] mayday-jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [17:08] that's to hardcore for me right now... i'm just trying to remember vi shortcuts [17:08] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:08] and i want no surprises tomorrow morning [17:08] mayday-jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) joined ##slackware. [17:08] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "leaving" [17:08] ;) [17:08] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [17:10] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:11] nand (n=nand@188.24.14.152) left ##slackware. [17:11] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:11] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [17:12] <_MaggoT_> finaly my desktop look nice [17:12] nand (n=nand@188.24.14.152) joined ##slackware. [17:13] mernill (n=chatzill@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [17:13] hey hey hey functional slackware :D [17:13] Why dont i get the creds i sererve here? [17:14] i need the creds :-P [17:14] As opposed to OO slackware or imperative Slackware? [17:14] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "leaving" [17:14] What? No rimshot? [17:14] ? [17:15] caoliver: what the hell? Tell me the truth or be quit! [17:15] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [17:15] i dont need that crap! [17:16] or shut the fuck off forever! [17:16] there i said it! :-) [17:16] Kvetch much? [17:16] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:16] mernill, if #slackware is too hard, you are too weak. try #ubuntu [17:17] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.157.147) joined ##slackware. [17:17] slackytude: :-P [17:17] *sigh*. [17:17] well I go to bed or my dad's gonna kill me [17:17] metrofox: haha, ciao :) [17:17] night metrofox [17:17] Ubuntu: http://xkcd.com/178/ [17:18] buona giornata deco =) night fire|bird [17:18] <_MaggoT_> nite metrofox [17:18] night metrofox [17:18] metrofox: no, stay: [17:18] ! [17:18] :o [17:18] night slackboy & _MaggoT_ [17:18] sigh [17:18] tab fail [17:18] Camarade_Tux, ahah -.-" funny :D [17:18] metrofox: :) [17:18] but now.. i tend to berlive slackytude is the weakest part here.. hit homoerotic tendencies seem to shine tro his male thingie [17:18] Oh my tab failed at least! ;( [17:18] rworkman: ping [17:19] Hey NaCl, how's it going? [17:19] Been better. [17:20] well, see ya [17:20] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.129.91) left irc: "+-||\-" [17:20] i belive so.. ur screved slackytude :-) [17:21] with you belifes about homosexuallity and so forth. [17:21] anu normal man would not give anus a try! [17:21] only you :-P [17:21] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95.27.61.67) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:22] I bow to your experience in that matter. had success in #ubuntu yet or did they ask you to try #gentoo [17:22] im banned in ubuntu and gentoo.. :-P [17:23] try #windows [17:23] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:23] Action: caoliver ponders why. [17:23] packeteer (n=zed@150.101.122.57) joined ##slackware. [17:23] them fuckers dont seem to appreciate my houmour! [17:23] mernill: I rather enjoy anal sex with my girlfriend. [17:23] <_MaggoT_> hahahaha [17:23] davanger (n=davanger@95.61.66.125) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:23] Action: caoliver scratches head and looks perplexed. [17:23] straterra: dont say so :-) [17:24] You'll be banned soon here as well mernill if you keep it up like that [17:24] straterra: warning to you as well [17:24] soon? [17:24] mernill, thats pathetic. how come you havent been banned here as well? that seems to be your aim anyway. [17:24] oki, ill shut ut then. [17:24] up [17:25] I'm tempted to ban him entirely based on his inability to spell. [17:25] heh [17:25] ##slackware: mode change '+b mernill*!*@*.se' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:25] mernill kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Bye now, take your fantasies elsewhere [17:26] dont, he sounded like a pirate [17:26] a pretty drunk one, maybe [17:26] <_MaggoT_> :-| [17:26] arrrrr [17:26] i was studying him for a psychology experiment. thanks guys... [17:26] yesyes: study deco, that'll keep you going for years. [17:27] :P [17:27] heh [17:28] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:29] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "leaving" [17:29] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@173-162-21-126-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:29] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [17:30] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:30] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:33] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) left irc: "I was raided by the FBI and all I got to keep was this lousy quit message!" [17:35] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@173.162.21.126) joined ##slackware. [17:35] I'm trying to install conky, during /configure I was missing lua as a dependency. no problem. I downloaded lua 5.1.4 [17:35] made it for linux (make linux) and then installed it. [17:35] (make install) [17:36] no errors, everything looks peachy, I can even run lua from command and it gives me a little lua debugging prompt thing [17:36] go back to configure conky again, "checking for lua" says "no" [17:37] What am I doing wrong? [17:37] ldconfig ? [17:37] did you do ldconfig? [17:38] wubbster (n=wubbster@24.206.157.137) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:38] slackytude, no, sorry I've never heard of that. [17:38] gabriel (n=gabriel@200.1.19.140) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:38] Cryp71c, try running it as root [17:38] Cryp71c, then try again [17:38] nope, nothing. [17:38] I got no errors from ldconfig but it stillt hinks I'm lacking lua [17:39] bimbo (i=1000@189.194.68.132) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:39] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) joined ##slackware. [17:39] The configure log probably will give you more information [17:39] Cryp71c: ^ [17:39] silent_contender (n=silent@user-24-214-169-9.knology.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:40] hmmmmm [17:40] Sodium, where can I find that? [17:40] Cryp71c: do you want lua support? [17:40] Camarade_Tux, I only want to build conky, I - otherwise - don't care about lua. [17:40] Cryp71c: --disable-lua [17:40] or something like that [17:40] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:40] Cryp71c: ./configure --help is your friend [17:40] I remember some problem with detection [17:41] and they *may* be trying to find a .pc file which doesn't actually exist upstream (mad anyone?) [17:41] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [17:41] who knows [17:41] could be anything [17:42] maybe he did a make install into /tmp [17:42] Cryp71c: but pastebin the config.log that got created :) [17:42] slackytude: he :P [17:43] Camarade_Tux: /usr/lib64/pkgconfig/lua.pc [17:43] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [17:43] Camarade_Tux, http://paste2.org/p/477151 [17:44] configure:15200: error: Package requirements (lua5.1 >= 5.1) were not met [17:44] pprkut: echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH [17:44] what version did you just install? [17:44] 5.1.4 [17:44] oh no, it also has /usr/local [17:44] lua -v reports: Lua 5.1.4 [17:44] now, does a make install instals a .pc file too? [17:45] did it go in /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig by chance? [17:45] no, but SBo does ;) [17:45] cat etc/lua.pc > $PKG/usr/lib${LIBDIRSUFFIX}/pkgconfig/lua.pc [17:45] pprkut: yup [17:46] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:46] xsamurai (n=munki@75.63.87.81) left ##slackware. [17:46] /etc/lua.pc ? [17:46] Cryp71c: you probably should have used slackbuilds.org's lua build... [17:46] slackytude: no, etc/lua.pc, relative to the lua source [17:46] e01 (n=OSCorp01@213.169.52.50) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:46] ah, gotcha [17:47] Action: Camarade_Tux pats slackytude [17:47] ^-^ [17:47] nand (n=nand@188.24.14.152) left ##slackware. [17:47] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) joined ##slackware. [17:47] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:47] Camarade_Tux, give me something green that starts with J [17:48] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [17:48] nand (n=nand@188.24.14.152) joined ##slackware. [17:48] J [17:49] slackytude: jealousy? =) [17:49] Camarade_Tux, ha, nice one [17:49] slackytude: my humour is dedecreasing, it's probably time I go to bed ;-) [17:49] tomorrow is the day I have APT course again [17:50] the best day [17:50] what's that? [17:50] Advanced Programming Techniques y0 [17:50] phearr my mad kungfu [17:51] I really like that name. and for the first time its actually a Programmer that holds it [17:51] Action: Camarade_Tux kicks slackytude in the nuts [17:51] Action: pprkut has exam tomorrow :/ [17:51] Hasan chop! Oops... wrong cartoon. [17:51] your mad what? can't hear you :) [17:51] not a system egineer or software architect or crap like that [17:51] slackytude: he ;p [17:51] pprkut: here, have a beer :) [17:51] no damn UML programms [17:51] diagramms [17:52] argh, uml is scary [17:52] my mother used to told me about what happened to bad boys, they had to do uml diagrams ='( [17:52] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [17:52] Action: pprkut doesn't drink beer [17:52] *tell [17:52] everybody gets a laptop. the guy made a SVN repo, wiki, doodle accounts [17:52] Somehow I think modern OOP strayed quite a ways from what Alan Kay and crew had in mind. [17:52] Action: Camarade_Tux sends pprkut some armagnac [17:52] linked against ldap account [17:52] which is nitfy [17:53] slackytude: nice :) [17:53] Action: pprkut is willing to try :) [17:53] aye. so everybody from the course can access it with usual studaccount [17:54] exams will be a programming exercise on a pc [17:54] but its jave [17:54] ava [17:54] damnit, need to sleep too [17:54] java [17:54] hahaha, 70% alcohol ^^ [17:55] sluttyduck (n=slut@74.83.184.95) joined ##slackware. [17:55] drunkenpaw (n=drunkenp@c-68-33-60-142.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:55] pprkut: it's been years I haven't drunk armagnac unfortunately ='( [17:55] caoliver, probably [17:56] Camarade_Tux: easy to change, no? :P [17:56] pprkut: actually it may cost much less than I though... \o/ [17:56] Action: Camarade_Tux hopes shops were still open ='( [17:57] will have to wait for tomorrow :P [17:57] hahaha [17:57] Unfortunately, in Michigan, our choices of Armagnac are severely constrained. [17:58] http://www.thedrinkshop.com/products/nlpdetail.php?prodid=5223 [17:58] £1500 [17:58] pretty inexpensive :) [17:58] caoliver: I probably wouldn't even call that a "choice" ;-) [17:58] _bruno (n=bruno@189-68-128-184.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:58] Not a choice for my wallet. [17:59] I invented the term Object-Oriented, and I can tell you I did not have C++ in mind. [17:59] ^^ Alan Kay [17:59] http://www.thedrinkshop.com/products/nlpdetail.php?prodid=5236 , £2527 :) [17:59] slackytude++ ;p [18:00] alan kay's thing was what, smalltalk? [18:00] Yup. [18:01] Java and C++ make you think that the new ideas are like the old ones. Java is the most distressing thing to hit computing since MS-DOS. [18:01] yeah, I was right, Armagnac is terribly expensive, it's the most expensive alcohol on that website, by far [18:01] hahaha [18:01] Also Alan Kay [18:01] ha! [18:02] at one time Atari hired Alan Kay as something silly, VP of Game Development or similar. It seemed like a really weird career move for him... [18:02] java is so crap [18:02] Urchlay, head of research [18:02] yeah, for a company that (after 1979) did no in-house research to speak of... [18:02] Fortunately, there are reasonable (and good) armagnacs on the market that don't require you to sell your kidney. [18:03] caoliver: yeah ;-) [18:03] At the moment, I'm on a bit of a farmer Champagne kick, but the variety here, while better than armagnac, is still constrained. [18:04] mesaGL (n=mesaGL@unaffiliated/mesagl) joined ##slackware. [18:04] hm, armagnac is vaguely similar to cognac? [18:04] Urchlay: yes [18:04] esteeven (n=esteeven@82-32-107-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:04] Single stage distallation from grape wine. More complexity. Little bit rougher. [18:05] drink ='( [18:06] Most Cognac you see, like most Champagne, is a factory product, with most of what that implies. [18:06] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@173.162.21.126) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:06] I.e. focus group flavors, and non-oenophile owners. [18:07] O_o [18:07] and then, you have the other ones which you can't buy :P [18:07] I could maybe sell my mother actually :P [18:07] oenophil? thats terrible! [18:08] what is it? [18:08] slackytude: ^^ [18:08] Isn't that correct? Oenophile ::= wine lover/afficionado. [18:08] oh yeah, I still don't know where my e-dans-l'o is on this keyboard layout [18:08] ah? didnt know that [18:08] I thought that was called alcoholic? [18:08] Ha! [18:08] lol [18:09] pprkut: he :P [18:09] nah, I know plenty of alcoholics who only drink beer and/or bourbon [18:10] Speaking of which... a stout would go good with the chili I'm about to cook. [18:10] I think Armagnac is what addicted me to alcohol actually [18:10] I wasn't even ten :D [18:10] Hmmm... [18:10] serious? [18:10] Action: caoliver ponders. [18:10] caoliver: what kinda chili you making? [18:10] :) [18:11] evo- (n=evo@91.47.225.231) left irc: "Don't mind your make-up, make your mind up!" [18:11] gr surloin/onions/pinto beans/chop tomato/some-sort-of-pepper [18:11] Level-Zero (n=Level-Ze@196.202.27.173) joined ##slackware. [18:12] I'm known to cook ground beef in beer (slow cook, with lid on, simmer for a long time), but cheap/nasty beer works fine for that [18:12] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:12] Dunno what pepper. I have some limons, but those are tres punchy. [18:12] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] habaρeros! [18:12] (no, not really) [18:12] This'll be a quickie. Can't wait that long. [18:13] I just wanted to see if I could rememder how to type a ρ character... [18:13] braineaters [18:13] Yo no hablos habaρeros. [18:13] Or something like. [18:13] you don't speak habaρeros? [18:14] "no me gusto" = "I don't like", if that's what you're looking for... [18:14] Yo no hablo espaρol. #? [18:14] I'm trying to boot the install dvd (hugesmp.s kernel) and after it's done booting the display's scrolling is all messed up. I try 'reset' and 'clear', but it doesn't fix it. Are there any video settings I can pass to the kernel or something on boot? [18:14] No, as a matter of fact, I don't speak habaρeros. [18:14] habaρeros = havana. you don't speak havana. [18:15] that's what google earth is saying to me. [18:15] I figured as much. Je n,aime pas les habaρeros. [18:15] i'm crazy then. [18:15] google translate... [18:15] I figured as much. Je n'aime pas les habaρeros. [18:15] esoteric: try 'vga=sane' at the boot prompt (but unless 13 is very different from 12.x, it shouldn't be using framebuffer during the install... anyone?) [18:16] Urchlay: I'll give it a shot... [18:16] Sorry. Did I mention my position in the department of redundancy department? [18:16] Urchlay: like this: hugesmp.s vga=sane ?? [18:17] I actually never used the 13.0 installer (just upgraded existing 12.2 and -current systems to 13), so I dunno... [18:17] esoteric: yes [18:17] trying... [18:17] I need to chase down chopped tomatoes and walk the critters. L8r! [18:18] train the critters to chop tomatoes for you? [18:18] Urchlay: it's habaneros [18:18] Wish. Real tomatoes are a thing of the past. Am using canned stuff. [18:18] Urchlay: no tilde [18:18] deco: no funky ρ? awww... [18:19] nope [18:19] Darn! [18:19] Urchlay, that didn't seem to work. Is vga=791 the same thing? [18:19] Elektro (n=elektr0@85.84.204.34) left irc: [18:19] esoteric: no, but try that too if you haven't [18:20] Has anyone played with 4500mhd under Slamd64? [18:21] ahh, 6 little creatures at the top of the screen [18:21] esoteric: rocking to the pixies ? [18:21] Creatures? [18:21] esoteric: yah, but does text scroll correctly now? [18:21] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [18:22] deco: nothing right now :( installing slackware 13 on my work mac pro [18:22] Urchlay: it does appear to have fixed it [18:22] esoteric: awwww [18:22] Urchlay: thx for the help [18:22] oh, it's an intel mac? [18:22] yeah [18:22] 8 cores [18:22] :) [18:22] nifty [18:22] nice [18:23] sIRC (n=sIRC@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) joined ##slackware. [18:23] Action: Camarade_Tux steals esoteric's machine [18:23] thanks :) [18:23] in that case I have a new datum to add to my mental database... intel macs don't support plain VGA text mode... maybe one day I'll need to know that? [18:23] I'm dual booting osx and slackware, though I'll probably spend most my time in slack [18:23] wait, 8 cores, but only 6 times tuz? smells fishy [18:23] Urchlay, apple is too cool for VGA [18:23] not enough space? [18:24] Camarade_Tux: newline!! [18:24] Urchlay: yeah I was thinking about keeping track of what I do for a little slackware 13 on intel/mac howto [18:24] slackytude: actually I think it's "apple is too cool for text" you were looking for... [18:24] pprkut, I assume it's because only 6 fit on the screen... [18:24] esoteric: I don't want to know how much that machine cost, 8-cores and apple... [18:24] pprkut: hmmmmmm [18:24] fck! [18:24] hahahaha [18:24] Camarade_Tux... i don't care :) work bought it [18:25] when I leave a thunar window open, ffmpegthumbnailer will max out cpu at 100% [18:25] mayday-jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:25] esoteric: yah, keep yourself a log, post it somewhere, it'll be useful info for someone [18:25] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.23.192) joined ##slackware. [18:25] and make laptop overheat [18:25] I curse thee, ffmpegthubnailer! [18:25] Urchlay, will do [18:25] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [18:25] pprkut, yeah -- thought I got ripped off for a sec [18:25] lol [18:26] I like "thubnailer" [18:26] bah [18:26] Useful wherever there are "thubs" to be "nailed" [18:27] esoteric: would they need somebody else? :D [18:27] approximately 36000 bogomips... LOL [18:27] Action: Camarade_Tux has 3324.41 bogomips [18:27] DIE! [18:28] sorry... like I said, I didn't pay for it [18:28] I'm on a laptop, two cores and lower-end, older proc, that was expected ;-) [18:28] hm. The name "thumbnailer" makes me think of this (probably SFW unless your boss has no sense of humour): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSo5NfCBG1I [18:28] I should get many more bogomips in a few weeks hopefully [18:28] mine will be bigger -_- [18:28] 4189.88 BMIPS here. [18:28] make -j should be fun on this thing [18:28] woohoo [18:29] How many cores? [18:29] 8 [18:29] Ouch! [18:29] 6 GB mem [18:29] Holy electric bills, Batman. [18:29] wooahh :o [18:29] needs more RAM [18:29] yeah... I'm not paying them lol [18:29] steal it! [18:29] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:29] seriously, 8 cores, 6 Gigs? [18:29] slackytude, I won't argue with ya about that [18:30] esoteric: and I'll have more ran than you :) [18:30] quad-core, 8GB ram [18:30] :) [18:30] thats less than a Gig pro core [18:30] nice [18:30] esoteric: I use "make -j" in the kernel sources once, not a good idea :D [18:30] yeah, I know -- need to improve that [18:30] a baby like that needs 16GB at least [18:30] Camarade_Tux, why? modules? [18:31] Depends on the ops. I can easily imagine some compute-bound things where 8 cores would be very busy with less mem than that. [18:31] esoteric: no, "make -j", not "make -jX", it killed my machine :) [18:31] well, yeah, Im being flippant [18:31] slackytude, dumb systems guys [18:31] or something [18:31] but ram is so inexpensive it's a bit weird ;-) [18:31] Jullyend (n=Jullyend@189.26.3.134.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:31] Someday, we'll have a sand shortage. [18:32] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [18:32] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [18:32] Have to grind up old computers to make a beach. [18:32] Jullyend (n=Jullyend@189.26.3.134.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left ##slackware. [18:32] eh [18:32] ^^ [18:32] LongeFlucht (n=chris@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:32] caoliver: that would be interesting, a metallic beach and salinated water... [18:33] And the sky was entirely the wrong shade of pink. [18:33] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-25-198.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:33] caoliver, a quote? [18:33] alphad (n=alphad@41.207.31.118) joined ##slackware. [18:33] Probably a perversion of hitchhiker's guide. [18:33] hrm [18:34] speaking of which, what is this new Hithhiker book [18:34] fdisk and cfdisk won't work ... gotta use gparted apparently [18:34] anybody seen it [18:34] ? [18:34] No. Have nothing here aside from HHG and Restaurant. Pity me! [18:35] cfdisk says: "Unsupported GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected. Use GNU Parted." [18:35] Hmmm... That's VERY odd. [18:35] Oh. Mac thing? [18:36] raelakoira (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:36] yeah [18:36] raela (i=1000@67.241.21.88) joined ##slackware. [18:36] esoteric: what about boot loaders? [18:37] EFI ? [18:37] esoteric: gnu parted != gparted [18:37] Chores await me. Srsly l8r! [18:37] drunkenpaw (n=drunkenp@75.148.29.146) joined ##slackware. [18:37] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [18:37] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-160.dialup.farlep.net) joined ##slackware. [18:38] pprkut, yes (gparted a gui) [18:38] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.25.38) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:38] slackytude: yeah [18:39] _bruno (n=bruno@189-68-128-184.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [18:42] Camarade_Tux, I'm using rEFIt (refit.sourceforge.net). It's pretty cool. [18:42] It'll still be lilo from there, though. [18:42] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-160.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: "υΘΟΦΥ" [18:43] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [18:44] esoteric: I've always been wondering what to use when booting on a mac [18:46] Camarade_Tux: I think rEFIt is the best one. [18:48] esoteric: ok :) [18:48] http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/800436.jpg <- guess what this is :) [18:49] Camarade_Tux: the Eiffel tower. [18:49] sIRC (n=sIRC@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) left irc: [18:49] thumbs: yeah :P [18:50] <_MaggoT_> Camarade_Tux : if i got lilo i still can use rEFIt? [18:50] its an UFO! [18:50] Camarade_Tux: The Mother Ship [18:51] _MaggoT_: *no* idea :P [18:51] gnubien (n=e@58.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:51] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:51] Camarade_Tux: jesus [18:51] slackytude, esoteric: yeah, that's how the eiffel tower appeared, it's an UFO which landed in Paris [18:51] Action: slackytude was in Paris once [18:51] <_MaggoT_> o_O UFO that remember me about last week at indonesia someone say look UFO [18:51] went up the damn thing [18:51] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:52] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-17-254.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:52] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [18:52] even got a little plastic eifel tower like stupid tourists everywhere [18:52] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [18:52] slackytude: ^^ [18:52] Camarade_Tux, so maybe extra-terrestrials feel the most at home in Paris? [18:53] esoteric: ever managed to understand a frenchman? [18:53] Camarade_Tux, I was thinking of visiting paris again next year [18:53] on my way to Ireland [18:53] coz I needz holydays [18:53] I'd like to see Ireland [18:53] potato season ? [18:53] slackytude: on your road to alcohol? :P [18:54] Im going to visit every pub and ask for the holy grail. If they dont have it, Im gonna drink an ale [18:54] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [18:54] slackytude: you'll be pissed if the first one you hit has one, eh? [18:54] lol [18:54] yeah [18:54] :) [18:55] raela (i=1000@67.241.21.88) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:55] Monty Python, "I told them we've already got one..." [18:55] but then the pope might invite me for a glass of wine [18:55] esoteric, haha, yeah [18:55] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:55] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:55] Guest2251 (n=martyn@138.86.189.18) joined ##slackware. [18:56] slackytude, I bet the pope has a nice wine collection. [18:56] maybe you'll encounter the fourscore and 10 virgins between the ages of 19 and 25, with the grail-shaped beacon... [18:56] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:56] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:56] Urchlay, I shall remain pure! Let me prove it [18:56] Urchlay, lol [18:56] saba (n=saba@130.243.187.126) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:57] I demand you let me prove it [18:57] slackytude, let you TRY to prove it [18:57] hehe [18:57] I want to throw my laptop out the window. it just turned itself off the second time in about 10 minutes [18:57] shouldn't be overheating since it's 68F in here [18:57] raela: speaking from experience, you don't want to throw a computer out a window. If it lands on the concrete sidewalk, you'll be finding keys in the bushes for weeks to come... [18:58] Urchlay: damn thing would deserve it [18:58] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:58] raela: I'll pay shipping.. let me throw it out for you [18:58] Nick change: mako-dono -> mako-sama [18:58] raela, ... or worse, if it lands in the bushes and is unharmed, you may just pass your problem on to someone else that finds it [18:58] hrm, be the cause of some poor innocent's suicide [18:59] bah, gonna go play the ps2. the ps2 likes me, as far as I know, unlike this pos [18:59] good point. take your chances with the scattered keys... chuck it!!!! [18:59] now! [18:59] don't think about it too much.... chuck it !!! [19:00] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [19:00] don't throw it out though.. it might land on someone's head [19:00] :P [19:00] Action: esoteric wants to see what happens [19:00] ahh, the voice of reason [19:00] "you'll shoot your eye out [19:01] ^ " [19:01] if you drop it from a really tall building, it might land on someone's head and squish them so they look like an accordion [19:01] yeah.. sounds like a bad idea [19:01] Urchlay, too many old Warner Brother cartoons [19:01] you can check how long it can run under water? [19:01] or better... oil [19:01] or buy a little fridge and run it in there [19:01] :p [19:02] poke some holes in the fridge for keyboard and monitor [19:02] jg71 (n=edud@76.74.129.199) joined ##slackware. [19:02] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:02] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:04] _bruno (n=bruno@189-68-128-184.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:04] _bruno (n=bruno@189-68-128-184.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:04] Enemy Territory time! [19:04] willca (n=willca@71.231.51.193) joined ##slackware. [19:06] drunkenpaw (n=drunkenp@75.148.29.146) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:06] Guest2251 (n=martyn@138.86.189.18) left irc: "Leaving" [19:06] he [19:06] slacker :) [19:07] yeah, some guys here at work all play for a little while after hours [19:07] Nick change: elfuser -> ElfUser [19:08] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [19:08] so off the Panzerfaust some fools [19:10] :) [19:10] going to bed here :) [19:11] anyone know of a util that does ssl cipher tests? [19:13] ezrafree (i=ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. [19:13] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:13] ok, good night :) [19:13] slackytude: go to bed :P [19:13] whut? [19:13] oh yeah [19:14] good night [19:14] lol [19:14] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:15] well, Pigs won't end before five minutes so I'm not in bed yet :P [19:15] Pigs? [19:15] vronsky (n=jh@cpe-075-183-106-088.triad.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:15] Action: slackytude is watching Ghost in the Shell [19:15] Pink Floyd, Sorry [19:15] ezrafree (i=ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left ##slackware. [19:15] Ah,ok [19:15] got that [19:15] How'd you get Pigs out of Pink Floyd? :P [19:15] slackytude: when do you have to wake up? :P [19:16] around 8ish [19:16] eh, there's a song called "Pigs" [19:16] fire|bird: pervert :P [19:16] slackytude: ^^ [19:16] Hey victimized|duplicate [19:16] Pink Floyd - 1977 - Animals/Pink Floyd - 03 - Pigs (Three Different Ones).mp3. [19:16] err Urchlay [19:16] as opposed to my usual 5:50 [19:16] Camarade_Tux, got that song [19:16] Camarade_Tux: excellent song (been wanting to play that with my band, but we have no keyboard player) [19:16] but I thought you meant COPS [19:16] hey, biharmonic|countrywide [19:17] ezrafree (i=ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [19:17] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:17] hello [19:17] hi [19:17] any ideas what can be done to resolve this issue? I run the chkuser patch on my qmail install, and i've just set up an ezmlm mailing list, but when i try to send an email to the list, chkuser flags the message since no user exists. any ideas? [19:17] Camarade_Tux, hows the weather for you guys? [19:17] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:18] slackytude: really cold and I think it's pretty windy right now =/ [19:18] its been -2C every morning :| [19:18] slackytude: yeah, was < 0°C last week [19:18] warmed a bit [19:18] supposed to get a bit warmer [19:18] yeah [19:18] anyway, fucking cold [19:19] yeah [19:19] ok, song almost over :) [19:20] mesaGL (n=mesaGL@unaffiliated/mesagl) left irc: [19:20] EasyTUX_ (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-30-87.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:21] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:23] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:26] (##slackware) Channel ban on mernill*!*@*.se expired. [19:26] ##slackware: mode change '-b mernill*!*@*.se' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:26] good old mernil. [19:26] he never changed. [19:26] vronsky (n=jh@cpe-075-183-106-088.triad.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [19:27] he never sold out [19:30] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-71-75.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:32] we got a hedgehog in out bathroom [19:32] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:32] he is making weird noises -_- [19:32] and I need to got there.... [19:32] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) joined ##slackware. [19:32] s/ot/o [19:35] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-160-170-151.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:36] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FIFTEEN.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [19:37] alphad (n=alphad@41.207.31.118) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:39] _MaggoT_ (n=maggot@125.161.202.64) left irc: "Leaving" [19:41] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:45] time for sleep [19:45] vronsky (n=jh@cpe-075-183-106-088.triad.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:45] Action: slackytude o/ [19:45] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A77F93.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:45] hi. any hope of getting the "legacy" ati 3d driver to work on slack 13.0? [19:45] yes. theres always hope. [19:46] i suppose. [19:46] heck, what do i know. im having fun with intel integrated graphics instead [19:47] probably better supported [19:47] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [19:47] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) joined ##slackware. [19:48] heh, thats what i thought [19:48] i hate the new xorg tho. hal craps in my lap. but ok. [19:50] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521bf3.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [19:50] vronsky (n=jh@cpe-075-183-106-088.triad.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:51] i especially like that xorg message ... yo, no attached screen detected. bork, go deal with it. [19:52] i mean wth, ... if i tell xorg to fire up, it shall do as told. and not check for an attached screen... [19:52] umislack (n=sleek@58.64.89.249) joined ##slackware. [19:53] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-168-237-38.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:58] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:00] Nick change: umopepisdn` -> pragma_ [20:07] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:08] umislack (n=sleek@58.64.89.249) left irc: "Leaving" [20:09] EasyTUX_ (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-30-87.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:11] sluttyduck (n=slut@74.83.184.95) left irc: Client Quit [20:13] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:20] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "leaving" [20:20] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [20:20] if you're using a xorg.conf, get rid of it [20:20] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) joined ##slackware. [20:20] it means it's trying to fire up, but your falsly configured xorg.conf isn't letting it [20:21] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [20:26] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:27] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:30] Is anyone running 32bit slackware on anything with more than 4GB of ram? [20:31] ...and could be running 64bit? [20:31] I'm not [20:31] You'd have to have PAE enabled to do so [20:32] donoban (n=donoban@77.211.104.115) joined ##slackware. [20:33] Dominian: is there any kind of performance hit for running PAE? [20:34] Well, more thanl ikely.. [20:34] what it is I have no idea [20:35] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [20:35] error_developer_ (n=errordev@host86-141-56-105.range86-141.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:35] Dominian: i've got a 64bit (8 core) machine w/ more than 4GB of ram, but wanted to still run 32bit slackware for the slackbuild/application options. [20:36] esoteric: Well on a macine like that.. I doubt you'll see any issues. [20:36] however, you won't be able to do any type of hardware virtualization etc. [20:36] at least.. not with 64bit guests [20:36] they'd have to be 32bit... [20:37] right [20:38] so if I were to try and run slackware 64, what kind of changes do I have to make to slackbuilds to be able to build them 64bit? or is there a howto somewhere already for that? [20:38] they are all 64-bit compatable out of the box, if you just change ARCH to x86_64 [20:38] shouldnt you not have to change it much? 32 bit libs should still be in /lib, 64 in /lib64 [20:39] esoteric: You can see the slackbuilds.org template [20:39] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-129-179-96.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [20:39] you can change ARCH to x86_64 or export ARCH as x86_64 before building the script [20:39] huh, that seems simple enough [20:41] v4nelle (n=van@adsl163-68.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:41] Does the Slackware forum on linuxquestions.org also handle slackware 64 questions? [20:42] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:42] sure does [20:43] thanks [20:43] just curious want kind of problems the slack 64 users are running in to, if any? [20:43] none so far [20:43] other than no official 32bit compat libs [20:43] typical slackware fashion then [20:43] you know what's sad? when i clocked out today i already had 31 hours in. [20:44] today is tuesday, right? [20:44] :D [20:44] Dominian: isn't there a slackbuild for the 64bit compat libs? [20:44] agentc0re: no. [20:44] agentc0re: wednesday [20:44] esoteric: er.. 32bit compat libs you mean? :) Not that I know of [20:44] BP{k}: which corner of the timecube are you on? ;) [20:44] Dominian: yeah [20:44] agentc0re: the one that I care about and where it's wednesday ;) [20:45] esoteric: I use the ones from Slamd64 originally [20:45] haha [20:45] Dominian: I take it you're running slackware 64? [20:45] esoteric: yep :) [20:46] I'm always running Slackware in some way shape or form [20:46] Dominian: nice :) -- maybe I'll have to get slack64 [20:46] Dominian: what kinds of things have you needed the 32bit compat libs for? [20:46] gaming [20:46] Dominian: just 32bit progs? [20:47] wine [20:47] Enemy Territory [20:47] that's about it really [20:47] I like ET, so I guess i'll need them [20:47] Scuzz: no 64bit wine yet? [20:47] Dominian: so if if i install 32 compat libs and install wine i can play ghost recon ? [20:47] no esoteric [20:48] i havnt attpted gamin on linux as of yet [20:48] Enemy Territory is a lot of fun and the graphics have aged very well [20:48] Scuzz: Yeah I run wine on Slackware64 [20:48] hrm [20:49] anyone able to build http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/gst-python/ on slack64? [20:49] seems to bail trying to link against a 32-bit lib [20:50] are 32 bit compat libs on cd ? [20:50] or a slackbuild ? [20:50] Nick change: pragma_ -> K1evre [20:50] nand (n=nand@188.24.14.152) left ##slackware. [20:50] edman007: built fine here, no issues. [20:50] well i installed aliens 32-bit libs [20:50] I haven't, so pure 64bit here. [20:50] usually it sees 32-bit but skips them when it finds the 64-bit with a warning [20:51] maybe force LDFLAGS="-L/usr/lib64" before configure [20:51] tried it [20:51] or did i... [20:51] probably not :) [20:51] Action: edman007 checks the script to see if SLKFLAGS sets LDFLAGS [20:51] Nick change: K1evre -> _pragma [20:51] Nick change: _pragma -> pragma_ [20:52] Action: esoteric is going to reinstall with Slack 64 [20:52] esoteric, why are you not installing? [20:52] Action: edman007 has seeded a lot [20:52] edman007, i installed slackware 32 [20:53] well do 64-bit [20:53] because i said so [20:53] ok then [20:53] BTW, i seeded enough [20:53] thanks for the update :) [20:53] keep seeding! going home in a few minutes and will start download ;) [20:54] Action: edman007 pastebins the stats [20:54] http://pastebin.ca/1634164 [20:54] lol [20:54] wherecan i fond 32 bit compat libs ? [20:54] thats a lot of uploading [20:54] Scuzz, http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/ [20:54] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [20:54] thank you sir [20:58] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.157.147) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:58] thanx thrice` [20:58] i better wait untill morning [20:58] thepeng (n=master@m3a0436d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:58] im to tired to even attempt it right now [21:00] is any of you using nvidia and xorg.conf? [21:00] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.36.49) joined ##slackware. [21:00] how do I mark a partition ACTIVE with fdisk? [21:01] ^ lilo warning [21:01] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [21:01] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.157.147) joined ##slackware. [21:01] I hate laptops [21:02] winter: yes. [21:03] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [21:03] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:03] Can I stop the slapt get in the middle of a job without consequences ? [21:04] I am working a laptop now with a bad battery and hard drive, is it common for multiple items go out at once on laptops? [21:05] this is AWESOME: I've got Slackware 13 running on a Mac Pro (8 core)! (Dual-booting with OS X) [21:05] mfillpot: probably not so common, but can certainly happen. [21:06] rworkman: syn [21:06] w4lk (n=w4lk@cpe-071-068-224-209.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:07] esoteric: Does kde works as well ? [21:07] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:08] paul424: YES [21:08] 8 cores sounds perfect for kde [21:08] Scuzz: it'll be even better for fluxbox ;) [21:08] lol [21:08] Scuzz: Just imagine 16 cores. :P [21:08] i was jsut kidding [21:08] i like kde persoanly [21:08] hahah fire|bird [21:09] ohh Mac Pro 9 run Intel procesors [21:09] paul424, been for a long time [21:10] looks like I might have to build the latest kernel, though. NIC drivers. [21:10] mk_ (n=nunes@187.89.28.193) joined ##slackware. [21:11] yup -- 2.6.27-11 appears to have the NIC drivers I need. [21:11] the Mac Pros have a lot of cores too, 8 real cores, 16 threads on the high end ones...should support upgrading to 12 cores too [21:11] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:11] 2.6.27 is nowhere close to the "latest" [21:12] 36000 bogomips [21:12] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:12] I know it's not. but that's when they added support for that nic [21:12] slack 13 has 2.6.29.6 [21:12] edman007 ^ [21:13] fire|bird, yeah... huh -- that's weird [21:13] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-157-95.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:13] Hey I need a few hints regarding the slapt-get. I mean it mirrors .... first where to get fast one, second how the repositories are maintained. I mean I should use the currrent branch right ? [21:13] wow [21:13] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [21:14] I second thrice`s wow. :P [21:14] esoteric, pfft, i'm at 37255.84 bogomips with a computer over a year old [21:14] Action: BP{k} thrices thrice` [21:14] fire|bird, I just stuck F12beta into a VM :) [21:14] thrice`: Nice, how's that going? [21:14] howdy BP{k}, how goes? [21:14] edman007, nice. processors? [21:14] fire|bird: not bad :) geting some stuff of my todo list cleared (finally!) [21:15] 2x e5410 (quad core2s) [21:15] BP{k}: congrats. :) [21:15] f'bird what slack do you use? [21:15] of course the new macs are faster [21:15] mancha: slack 13 on the desktop and slack 13 64bit on the laptop. [21:15] edman007, still cool, though [21:15] f'bird wanna try to kawmpile pat's xpdf for me? [21:16] Nick change: Intel[R]VT-x_ -> Intel[R]VT-x [21:16] fire|bird, awesome :) [21:16] paul424: let me put this as kind as I can .... stay away from -current. It's for people who know what they are doing. [21:16] source/xap/xpdf and stuff [21:16] thrice`: The artwork Fedora has for 12 is some of the most plain I've seen them design. Is the new artwork in the beta? [21:16] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [21:16] mancha: sure, I'll give it a try. [21:16] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) joined ##slackware. [21:17] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [21:17] fire|bird, the squares are the default [21:17] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) left irc: Connection reset by peer [21:17] thanks f'bird [21:17] thrice`: ok, so that's the new artwork, it's quite plain this time around, but it looks nice. [21:18] w4lk (n=w4lk@cpe-071-068-224-209.sc.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:18] BP{k}: ok suppose I want to install GNOME for slackware ... the instalation says to upgrade some libs by slapt-get which mirror and slackware version I should refer to ? [21:18] fire|bird, I kind of like it :) [21:19] thrice`: I guess there was a dispute or something over someone that had submitted potential artwork for 12. It was a young lady (tatica) and I don't know many specifics, but I guess she was really condemned and wasn't online on her blog, in communication with the artwork team, or anyone for quite a while. [21:21] ah, so maybe this was a quick add-in? [21:22] paul424: novel concept perhaps, the slackware version you have installed? [21:23] as for which mirror, whatever is close to you and up to date, and don't use slackware.com. [21:23] thrice`: I'm not quite sure really, but there was certainly some disagreement over it, so, it could explain the plain artwork this time around. It's nice, just not usually something Fedora would go for. [21:23] hmm I have 13.0 ... [21:24] mancha: ack [21:25] thrice`: I'm downloading the install dvd now for it, I have no luck at all with live cd's in a vm for Fedora. [21:25] thepeng (n=master@m3a0436d0.tmodns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:25] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:25] just what does it mean that some packages are for version say slackware 12.2 once they are put into repository they are frozen right ... I mean they don't upgrade the package version, do they ? [21:25] well, s/downloading/torrenting/ [21:25] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl10-164-234.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [21:25] rworkman, xpdf won't build here (pat's official) was wondering if you could give it a whirl, preferrably if you have a 12.x variant [21:26] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:26] i have fresh slackware 13 install, e1000e NIC, but it wasn't loaded on boot (ifconfig -a has only lo). I modprobed e1000e and now there's a /proc/net/dev with transmit packets, but still no eth0. help? [21:27] BP{k} ? [21:27] mail_ (n=chatzill@74.002.hdsl.mel.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [21:27] fire|bird, ah, good idea :) I used the netiso, but if you're on a quick conncetion, dvd would be good :) they use presto + xz for rpm compression [21:28] donoban (n=donoban@77.211.104.115) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:28] anyone got compiz working in Slackware 13.0? i have installed compiz 0.8.2, but when i started compiz, windows have no border, and none of the effects working? [21:28] mancha: hrm, I don't have a 12.x box at all, not even a vm any more [21:28] archiebenedict (n=archiebl@ip68-102-118-52.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:29] can you give it a shot on v13? [21:29] Can you put the full error log somewhere? [21:29] I can try, sure [21:29] i think it's a header conflict but the package it would conflict with is also official (so i'm trying to figure out how pat compiles it) [21:31] before diving in and "fixing" the header issue i suspect, i want to make sure i'm not the only one not able to run xpdf.SlackBuild :) [21:32] ehhh [21:32] paul424: I don't know, I don't use gnome. I am gonna asume that when a gnome project states certain libraries need to be upgraded, they would provide these libraries. [21:32] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [21:32] nitro25 (n=nitro25@72.230.179.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:34] Slackware package /tmp/xpdf-3.02pl3-i486-1.txz created. [21:34] Slackware package /tmp/xpdf-3.02pl3-x86_64-1.txz created. (on a full installed slackware64-13.0 chroot) [21:34] ha [21:34] Well, that covers both 32 and 64 :) [21:34] rworkman: nice timing ;) [21:34] Indeed. [21:34] sonofabitch [21:34] and it was almost even better, because I was typing "BP{k}: Nice timing!" [21:35] hahaha [21:35] well thanks for the conf on 13.x, now if i could only get a 12.x guinea pig :> [21:35] np :) [21:36] hmm I don't have a clean 12.2 around at the moment, only kethry's box .. which has stuff installed and is arse slow (but willing to give it a try) [21:36] paul424: if you have any questions about Gnome on Slackware, I suggest you ask in the relevant place. [21:36] that would be great BP{k} [21:37] mk_ (n=nunes@187.89.28.193) left irc: "leaving" [21:37] CitizenLane (n=lane@c-69-243-237-89.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:37] thrice`: haha, 2 hours left on the torrent. :P [21:38] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-136-241.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:38] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [21:41] umm, I should seed the torrent. [21:41] thanks for the reminder. [21:41] hey thumbs [21:41] fire|bird: hi [21:41] how are you? [21:41] fire|bird: tired. [21:41] fire|bird: and dealing with abuse in the channel I'm op. [21:42] mancha: xpdf on 12.2 here craps out (but again: since it's not a clean build enviroment..... [21:43] BPk, it could be because of that or it could be the same thing i've experienced [21:43] Bp{k} thanks for taking the time to help me sort this out [21:45] BP, is it in sec-handler? perchance? [21:47] mancha: aye. http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/zSKY5K11.html [21:48] BP, yep, same issue as me then. i believe i have found the problem but i am puzzled how pat builds it, since the error correction would require me to patch an official package of his [21:51] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-157-95.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: "rcirc on GNU Emacs 22.3.1" [21:53] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [21:53] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:54] hrm, what email do i send to to get pat to recompile a broken package in -current? [21:58] edman007: has it been verified that it's broken by others? [21:59] thumbs: apache? [22:00] agentc0re, uhh, its just that the changelog states that mysql was upgraded causing a version bump in libmysqlclient.so, and qt3 links against it [22:01] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:10b) joined ##slackware. [22:01] agentc0re: apache httpd, mysql, amongst others. [22:02] what do you think of develia.org site ... seems like a feasable package site .... [22:02] agentc0re: some kids that break the 'IRC smart questions' and 'decent IRC behaviour' rules. [22:03] LongeFlucht (n=chris@pool-74-111-219-13.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] thumbs: wow, didn't know you op'd so many channel.s i bet that must be a PITA most times. [22:04] thumbs: why don't you just be an ass and give them the boot? [22:04] s/develia.org/slackbuilds.org [22:04] Sure does! [22:04] :P [22:05] agentc0re: because I must execise patience, as an op. [22:05] agentc0re, anyways, do you have current? ldd -r /opt/kde3/lib64/qt3/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlmysql.so [22:05] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [22:05] that can't find mysql on my system before i recompiled [22:05] edman007: just curious, wasn't trying to jump down your throat. i know it'll get asked and it's always best to see if someone else can try it to see if it does or doesn't work. [22:05] edman007: i don't have current. sorry. [22:06] thumbs: Patience is /kick. Virtue is /mode +b [22:06] :P [22:06] agentc0re, meh, pretty obvious...same update he managed to do mysql without innodb to... [22:06] agentc0re: quite the contrary. [22:06] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:07] agentc0re: a hasty kick is seen as abuse. [22:07] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:10b) left irc: "Fui embora" [22:08] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:08] edman007: ya, no current and no kde3 either. someone else probably is running it though, my guess is fire|bird. [22:08] thumbs: hrm... i wouldn't think so, but that's just my opinion. [22:08] Why would you guess me? :P [22:08] fire|bird, you be crazy [22:08] fire|bird, nice, fast connection :) [22:09] I mean, I do happen to have a current VM, but still. :P [22:09] agentc0re: the freenode policies are pretty strict [22:09] fire|bird: because you're always on the bleeding edge.... [22:09] thrice`: the connections 12Mbps here, but the torrent is slow. downloading it with aria2 is going faster, 1 hour 20 minutes left. :P [22:10] s/connections/connection's/ [22:10] fire|bird, i seeded ~190GB in the last 30 days or so, all slackware [22:10] wow [22:11] my isp would throttle me after that [22:11] hell way before that [22:11] i know, my ISP is probally going to shut me down [22:11] lol [22:11] only had it for a month though...see what happens [22:12] does you contract state you can't? [22:12] i should read it... [22:12] if it is silent on that issue, then seed away [22:12] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [22:15] Action: edman007 reads away [22:16] who parked the rape van in ##slackware? [22:16] ima calling the city [22:17] nachox ring ring telephone. [22:17] nachox: did you park this rape van in here? [22:17] ? [22:17] acidchild, what? [22:18] i'm just messing around. i fail [22:18] how goes [22:18] damn, you scared me, i thought you had seen my van [22:18] haha [22:18] Lol ;x [22:18] ..... [22:19] ok, not funny [22:19] hey nachox [22:19] acidchild, how am i? hmm, fine i guess, too much work i guess [22:19] YOU GUESS?? [22:20] :D [22:20] hehe [22:20] ...... [22:20] yourself? [22:20] mancha, i see throttling in there, but nothing about excessive bandwidth use... [22:20] edman007: what isp ? [22:20] optimum [22:20] k [22:20] edman, okay then, you might get throttled if they catch on, else use up that upstream to your heart's content [22:20] nachox: nothing much really, just work... spending alot of time cycling before the winter sets in... [22:20] that's cool [22:21] acidchild: :P [22:21] it's already too cold to cycle here :( [22:21] thrice`: i'm pushing though it. [22:21] acidchild: what kind of bike? [22:21] i usually quit around 55F [22:21] i have a norco mountain bike... [22:21] though manual throttling is quite lame, my guess is if you haven't been yet then the auto throttlers aren't flagging you [22:21] if thats what your asking lol [22:21] thrice`, you know the rest of the world use C° ? :) [22:22] acidchild: two nights in a row.. what did we do to deserve this!? hehe [22:22] how about "286K" ? :D [22:22] acidchild: nice bikes :) [22:22] Dominian: uh....something gotta give [22:22] acidchild: hehe [22:22] BP{k}: yeah man, i llove it [22:22] acidchild: You have google wave by chance? [22:22] naw ;< [22:22] deco, mancha but i got the boost one, so it looks like i'm special :) [22:22] damn [22:22] sorry [22:22] acidchild: I am gonna be spending some dosh on a new bike soon :) [22:22] acidchild: I got an invitation fro fuzzbawl [22:22] oohh BP{k} i want some new handle bars. [22:22] edman007: hehe cool [22:23] thrice`, :) [22:23] now it be bedtime! [22:23] BP{k}, awesome! road, or mountain? [22:23] Dominian, looking for invites? let me know if you get one :) [22:23] nachox: lol [22:23] BP{k}: i have raisers at the moment, the twisting force i put has ruined the grip to the forks. [22:23] nachox: I think if google invites you.. you get invites.. if you get invited by someone else.. you don't [22:23] BP{k}: hoping streight ones will do the trick [22:23] I have a feeeling its going to work like gmail [22:23] Dominian, damn [22:23] q/quit [22:23] fail++ [22:23] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [22:23] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [22:24] Dominian: If google invites you, you get, iirc, 8 invites. [22:24] mancha is not equipped for irc it seems [22:24] fire|bird: right [22:24] thrice`: mountain / hybrid-ish .. the roads where I want to cycle are really not suitable for normal road bikes [22:24] BP{k}: i've been putting 4-5hrs or more aday on it atm..all them little things have started giving out ;/ [22:25] I've seen mixed info as to if you get invited by someone, if you get to invite others or not. [22:25] fire|bird: so far it appears if you get invited by someone .. you don't have invites [22:25] I barely broke 1,000 miles for the summer :( it was short this year [22:25] thrice`: :< [22:25] fire|bird: like.. with gmail if googled invited you y ou got invites.. if someone invited you you didn't.. but that changed later on in the beta test [22:25] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:26] Dominian: even with gmail it took a while before they awarded you invites in the beginning. [22:26] they've gotta build desire for people to use it first [22:26] BP{k}: ah [22:26] thrice`: I like it so far.. [22:26] BP{k}: so what you looking to get? [22:26] Dominian: Yeah. I signed up a while back as a tester, but haven't received anything from google. [22:26] umislack (n=sleek@58.64.89.249) joined ##slackware. [22:26] Well, I haven't quite figured it all out yet. [22:27] LongeFlucht (n=chris@pool-74-111-219-13.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:27] The demo video of it sure looks interesting. [22:28] fire|bird: let me know when you do, I don't think I signed up much later than you. [22:28] i envy you guys, buenos aires is too insecure to ride [22:28] BP{k}: will do. :) [22:28] acidchild: probably mountain bike type of deal .. just so I can bike along the canal roads here :) [22:28] BP{k}: get a norco, soo smooth and not retardedly expensive. [22:28] just my 9c :D [22:28] acidchild: a friend of mine is a fervent biker, so probably will poke him for some advice :) [22:28] acidchild: so what else is new? [22:28] acidchild: get all tha bandwidth and hosting setup yet? hehe [22:29] uh... i'm doing some forensics atm.. consulting... [22:29] old friend is flying from BC to talk to me about some development work [22:29] acidchild, can you tell with what tools? [22:29] sweet [22:29] computers are so fucking boring. [22:29] acidchild: Then give them to me! [22:29] :) [22:29] here here! [22:29] acidchild, nah, get a job doing pentest [22:30] nachox: uuh... its cleaning up after a bad employee [22:30] you'll have fun there [22:30] ouch [22:30] windows? [22:30] hi [22:30] i can't talk much about it, but this boy has been a very very bad boy [22:30] OSX. [22:30] well acidchild just wants to give me all of his good PCs so I can get a server back in a NOC at work.. right?! :) [22:30] hehe [22:30] hehe, tell me about it, you'd be surprised to see how much porn there is in the enterprise these days [22:30] acidchild: I still can't believe that dubstep is running.. I wish it would fix itself [22:30] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:31] nachox: wouldn't surpsie me one bit actually [22:31] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:31] Dominian: i can send someone in to fix it though if we come up with step by step instructions [22:31] spy is still up and running too [22:31] acidchild, send someone? youre tha bossss now? [22:31] i'm in the loop [22:31] ;> [22:32] acidchild: hrm.. [22:32] acidchild: I don't remember HOW to fix it. [22:32] acidchild: Probablly have to boot with a slackware 12.2 disk and reinstall the l/ series [22:32] Dominian: install libc related shit [22:32] yeah [22:32] glibc I think [22:32] what did you break? [22:32] uh.. that box was always abit weird with libc [22:32] acidchild: yeah [22:33] acidchild: the libc.so.6 or something changing all the time and breaking rsync [22:33] that was "odd" to say the least [22:33] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:33] nachox: we have a box somewhere that .. well it shouldn't be running still and it is :) [22:33] its a beast of a server though :D [22:33] Dominian, how come? [22:33] nachox: There was an odd issue with the install of slackware 12.2 on there.. acidchild and I could never quite lock it down, but something kept update one of the /lib entires with a newer file.. [22:34] nachox: I was in the middle of repairing it when I got "booted" from the system... so now we can't ssh into or anything, but its still running lol [22:34] this was like.. 6 months ago I think :D [22:34] march... right? [22:34] yeah I think so [22:34] been running that long.. its amazing [22:34] acidchild: I'd say the hardware is solid in that box :) [22:34] hmm, ok... remamber that golden rule about not upgrading glibc though ssh? :) [22:35] nachox: we didn't upgrade glibc [22:35] it just did it, itself! [22:35] ah, interesting [22:35] nachox: I had extracted the file we needed and did the replacement to fix the corrupted file.. which shouldn't have broken it [22:35] nachox: but FYI, I do glibc updates all the time via ssh :P [22:35] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] what you think to telling him to put a gentoo or other from ssh install style installer [22:36] just to atleast recover data and regain control of it [22:36] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [22:36] acidchild: no reason to recover data imho [22:36] acidchild: if you think gentoo would work better.. go for it :) [22:36] its not the os [22:36] its the fact you can boot the cd in to cache and then ssh in [22:36] and atleast have access. [22:36] acidchild, nah, if you have the cash, your servers should have some out of band consoles and the such such as ilom, elom or whatever [22:37] please, avoid gentoo [22:37] fire|bird, I'm pretty impressed at the moment :) curious to hear your reaction [22:37] thrice`: 41 minutes left. :) [22:37] acidchild: hrm.. we *could* possibly reinstall using that.. or fix the issue [22:37] no way to really be sure though [22:37] indeed chroot and reinstall package.. [22:37] reboot.. and we're back to the issue again but we might beable to fix it. [22:37] Dominian, have you tested the latest opensuse? [22:37] boot a liveCD with ssh and start 'er up [22:38] nachox: 11.2? yep [22:38] acidchild: aye [22:38] nachox: this is a zombie machine that we can retake control of or leave to rot [22:38] is it worth the time? [22:38] nachox: ran milestone 8 and RC1 in a VM [22:38] nachox: dude.. I love it [22:38] fire|bird: what are you downloading ? [22:38] deco: Fedora 12 Beta [22:39] :O, 21 minutes [22:39] :o [22:39] thrice`: I wonder if this install will take as long as last time. :P [22:39] Dominian, too bad it's from novell, i think i hate those guy [22:39] nachox: hah [22:39] nachox: Well, I can look past that. [22:39] i used to [22:39] now i cant be bothered [22:39] it's packed with C#, just like vista :) [22:39] nachox: used solaris the other day [22:40] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:40] please explain /etc/sfw/ [22:40] and /usr/sfw [22:40] thrice` just is ok with it as long as he used it first ;) [22:40] it's either (open)solaris, slackware or ubuntu if i didnt install the later [22:40] ubuntu... hrm [22:40] haha [22:40] :) [22:41] fire|bird, is it related to v-box ? (the speed) [22:41] acidchild, hmm, it has historical reasons which i dont understand well enough [22:41] thrice`: I would guess so, a dvd install on real hardware is quite fast. [22:42] nachox: i see. [22:42] ha [22:42] as soon as btrfs is stable in Linux.. we will have no need for solaris [22:42] Action: Dominian ducks [22:42] :O [22:42] you better run, not just duck. [22:43] :) [22:43] :P [22:43] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) joined ##slackware. [22:43] he's starting up his rape van now [22:43] Dominian, which might take a lot of years, have you heard of LU and beadm in solaris and opensolaris? [22:43] see what you done... [22:43] nachox: nah.. I ignore Solaris development ;) [22:43] nachox: LU=live update, right? [22:43] fire|bird, yes [22:43] /usr/sfw is Solaris Freeware is what it is for [22:43] nachox: openSUSE 11.2 supports Live Update [22:44] kitche: thanks and thats fucking lame [22:44] Dominian, i think the only think those Live Updates share is the name [22:44] maybe [22:44] but you haven't tried so how would you know :P [22:44] nachox: I thought it was. I have osol in a second hdd on my desktop, it's excellent. I forgot what beadm was, I'll have to look that up again. [22:44] and I know I don't know about Solaris [22:44] Slowaris I mean ;) [22:44] Action: Dominian runs [22:45] yah that box i was on was so damn slow [22:45] Action: fire|bird trips Dominian. Someone quick, get em. :P [22:45] and it was bigger than my TV [22:45] Action: thumbs ties Dominian up [22:45] whoa wait [22:45] Action: acidchild unties Dominian [22:45] You aren't my wife.. stop tieing me up [22:45] freaks, stop trying to rape people. [22:45] er.... [22:45] Dominian [22:45] gotta take the dog out.. brb [22:45] i didn't know you and thumbers were gay together [22:46] Dominian, the idea is that updates break stuff, and since zfs and solaris support clones, LU clones what is called a boot environment (in most cases every filesystem but /export/home) and updates a new boot environment, once it is done you can boot to the updated boot environment [22:46] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.12.49.9) joined ##slackware. [22:46] thrice`: I could install Fedora 12 Beta on a spare 120G drive I have, that'd mean replacing OpenBSD with it. :P [22:46] Dominian, if that new boot environment doesnt work, you just fall back to the old one [22:47] like the windows xp feature? [22:47] nachox: whats solaris update app? [22:47] welcome to 2001 ? [22:47] nachox: That's what I love, the new BE it makes, I've had to rely on that a couple times due to unexpected happenings. [22:47] thrice`: It's better than Windows. :P [22:47] waabimiigwan (n=steven@66.165.210.174) joined ##slackware. [22:48] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:48] nachox: I've tried a couple of kde4 projects for osol, they, well, suck. :P [22:48] thrice`, nah, nothing like windows, windows recovery points actually take a lot of space and sometimes fail to work properly [22:48] ah, ok :) more like version control? [22:49] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [22:49] 14 minutes. \o/ [22:50] If this dvd install goes as slow as the last one, I'll probably have to wait until tomorrow. :/ [22:50] I better grab a live cd too, to check it out tonight yet. [22:50] psh, live hardware :P [22:51] hahaha [22:51] thrice`: I'm about this |-| close to installing it to that spare 120G to get a real test of it. :P [22:53] Naraku (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [22:54] acidchild, opensolaris and solaris 10 use different package managers, it's hard to explain [22:54] thrice`, yeah, like that i guess... [22:56] nachox: i've not tryed opensolaris [22:57] acidchild: The cd you download is also a live cd environment to check it out. [22:57] uh, waste of bandwidth [22:57] ;/ [22:57] =D [22:58] lol [22:58] hehehe [22:58] hehe [22:58] fanatics :P [22:58] Action: acidchild shakes violently in the corner [22:58] I don't min Solaris personally [22:59] but I'm more comfortable with Linux [23:00] bimbo (i=1000@200.92.144.78) joined ##slackware. [23:01] acidchild: I've been trying to find a way to track bandwidth without using vnstat or cacti... blech [23:01] and I think its time i installed awstats on slackadelic [23:01] Dominian, apache only? [23:01] Dominian: without snmp? [23:02] hello, I'm trying to configure a printer under slackware 13, by running hp-setup I've got evcrything almost ready, except that it can't find the PPD file for my printer, the problem with this is that the file is not available anywhere (at least, I haven't found it) [23:02] without snmp.. for now [23:02] jeev: yeah apache only [23:02] http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PSC_1200 [23:02] use the io thing inside [23:02] mod_bandwidth or iptables + suphp and process everything by the user whos content it is [23:02] htdig? [23:02] and packet count via iptables [23:02] htdig is a search engine ;/ [23:02] that's all the information for it in openprinting.org, but the PPD file is not available for download [23:02] LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\"" combinedio [23:02] logio or something [23:02] jeev: oh blech. [23:02] I tried that once [23:02] what's blech [23:02] and what's wrong with it [23:02] dunno [23:02] just sounded good [23:04] mod_bandwidth hrm.. [23:04] oh.. that's bandwidth management [23:04] you could email slinkay and ask him how he does it [23:04] he uses iptables + suphp [23:05] acidchild: hrm.. or he could email me if he's interested.. I haven't talked to him in a while [23:05] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:05] yah he msn'ed me the other day but i was leaving as the message came in [23:05] atleast he's alive [23:05] hehe [23:05] Well, I think I'm more wanting to see all the virtual hosts in apache and what bandwidth hits etc they are using [23:06] and I thought awstats had the ability to do that [23:06] yah, the iptables way displays traffic per user.. so aslong as all the vhosts are under diffreent users it works [23:07] hrm [23:07] only way i've found of doing user ssh + sockets + web content in one [23:07] these vhosts are just defineid in httpd-vhosts.conf [23:07] don't really care about the per user per se [23:07] yah, suphp can run anything as the user its owned by, php/cgi/html+content [23:07] yah [23:07] just a neat idea ;x [23:08] Action: Dominian nods [23:08] it definitely is [23:08] giving webcontent a user/guid is neat. [23:09] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] Level-Zero (n=Level-Ze@196.202.27.173) left irc: "Leaving." [23:13] acidchild, why do you need suphp having suexec by default? [23:13] suexec doesn't do some things... from whati remember suphp is a little mismaintained. [23:13] phreak (n=phreak@pool-151-205-187-91.ny325.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] i dont remember what tings [23:14] Hello everyone [23:14] acidchild, when you grow up and start using solaris, investigate about mod_privileges :) [23:17] BP{k}: Ahh, what a beautiful site. 4 bears(clockwise from top) IPA, Stout, Hefe, Pilsner. http://imagebin.org/68622 [23:17] s/bears/beers [23:17] BP{k}: it's been a long day.. [23:18] bimbo (i=1000@200.92.144.78) left ##slackware. [23:19] How would one use SlackBuilds from http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/slackware/addon/slackbuilds/? [23:19] It seems to have slackbuilds for 13.0 that slackbuilds.org doesn't have [23:21] agentc0re: dang :)) [23:21] phreak: such as? [23:21] nachox: grow up? [23:21] FU! [23:21] hahaha [23:21] when you grow up your balls will drop! [23:21] and you'll be a man! :O [23:21] ...... [23:21] wow.. [23:21] nachox: ;D [23:22] hehe, i feel rapped [23:22] nachox: I think you "grew" him up, if you know what i mean. :P [23:22] sick [23:22] disgusting [23:22] agentc0re: no please do explain for the rest of us [23:22] show all these wonderful people what goes around in your mind [23:22] a picture of straterra suddenly flashed into my mind [23:23] LOL [23:23] that sick [23:23] LOL [23:23] BP{k}: Well looking through the list of network utilities on both sites, darkstar seems to have a bunch that slackbuilds doesn't [23:24] nachox: just wait until he reproduces..... :P [23:24] I was just curious as to how one would use the slackbuilds from that repository as opposed to or in conjunction with the ones from SBo [23:25] run the shell script? [23:25] phreak: hmm give me one that actually is there that SBo doesn't carry? [23:27] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:28] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:29] BP{k}: The only one I can remember off the top of my head is 'hydra'. [23:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:30] BP{k}: But I guess you're right though, most of the rest seem to be there. I was just curious, didn't mean to sound like a hard ass. [23:30] fire|bird, done yet? [23:30] phreak: no. I am actually quite annoyed that this mirror carries buidls *WE* haven't approved. [23:31] BP{k}: Oh is that the case? [23:32] phreak: unless I am going insane of course .. that does happen around this time of year :) [23:32] hydra was there for 12.2, maybe their rsync script just sucks [23:32] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:32] Yeah I remember hydra being there for 12.2 [23:34] BP{k}: Hahaha yeah. thrice can very well be right though. [23:34] hrm [23:34] I really should be finishing up the"randoM' quote stuff for noobfarm [23:34] I have th esql query but no other code written yet lol [23:35] Has anyone else who is running xfce under 13/current had issues with xfce4-power-manager not gracefully shutting down the system when the battery thresh hold is hit? [23:35] hmm does anyone here have the sbo tree synced? [23:35] umislack (n=sleek@58.64.89.249) left irc: "Leaving" [23:35] BP{k}: I used to.. why? [23:36] BP{k}: with sbopkg, yes [23:36] I want to check if 13.0/network/hydra exists. [23:36] as it does in *my* local tree [23:36] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@68.224.51.178) joined ##slackware. [23:36] BP{k}: oh, still 12.2 here. Sorry. [23:37] thumbs: np. [23:37] BP{k}: yes it does [23:37] antiwire: cheers. [23:37] ;) [23:38] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:38] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:38] I can't figure out what the possible causes of this power management issue would be [23:39] antiwire: it hates you [23:39] i think it really does [23:39] phreak: hmm so it seems the databases doesn't show it.. [23:40] bah [23:40] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:40] BP{k}: Whoever the DBA is for SBo.. fire 'em! [23:41] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:41] thrice`: yeah. I got the dvd and live cd. I'm just going to burn them both now. [23:42] thrice`: I think I'll do an install to that spare drive, it'll be quicker and give me a better idea of what it's like, on real hardware. [23:42] BP{k}: Oh ok. Thank you. [23:44] phreak: no problem, I am glad in a way that it was this issue as opposed as a mirror carrying unaproved builds :) [23:44] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.41.21) joined ##slackware. [23:44] CitizenLane (n=lane@c-69-243-237-89.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:45] BP{k}: Yes definitely. Thanks again. [23:46] mail_ (n=chatzill@74.002.hdsl.mel.iprimus.net.au) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]" [23:46] psypete (n=psypete@li62-9.members.linode.com) left ##slackware. [23:48] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [23:49] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:49] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [23:51] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: [23:51] i'm off to sleep, see you all tomorrow, as usual, it's a pleasure hanging out with you all guys [23:51] night nachox, take care. [23:51] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:51] nachox: later. [23:52] CitizenLane (n=lane@c-69-243-237-89.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.36.49) left irc: "Leaving" [23:52] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-198.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "fui" [23:52] phreak (n=phreak@pool-151-205-187-91.ny325.east.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:52] http://omploader.org/vMmtuaw [23:53] not mine but was on front page [23:53] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: ""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."" [23:54] thrice`: well, going to boot the live cd now. :) [23:54] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [23:55] That artwork looks really nice. [23:55] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:55] well, I upgraded xfce4-power-manager to version 0.8.4. I hope this fixes it [23:56] i'll know in 3 hours when my battery dies [23:56] antiwire: What was the issue with it before? [23:56] it would never gracefully shut my system down [23:56] batter would run out and the system would hard power off [23:56] battery* [23:56] ah, I had that happen earlier today. [23:57] all of a sudden, bam, it was off. [23:57] exactly [23:57] I may have to upgrade too. [23:59] thrice`: What the heck, they default to the clearlooks theme again? Why not Nodoka? :P [00:00] --- Wed Oct 21 2009