[00:00] hi juice [00:00] how is everyone tonight? [00:00] ok now. seriously. [00:00] did anyone actually read that timecube.com site? [00:00] I wonder how hard it would be to make something like sbopkg for my slackbuilds that doesn't req rsync.. [00:01] cigarettesmoker (n=nika@212.45.14.5) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:01] antiwire, I read a page or two [00:01] they guy hardly has the writing skills of a 9th grader [00:01] they/the [00:01] juice, i've found your picture on the web [00:01] lool [00:01] the nig text is a put off [00:01] yeah [00:01] really ...? [00:01] big* [00:01] juice, yess :p [00:01] fredoslack, do explain? [00:01] woohoo! http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/869/pow20090821005136.png [00:01] juice, http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Ordinateur/0004.gif [00:01] lool [00:02] heh [00:02] fredoslack: you are one strange fredo [00:02] yes lol [00:02] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:02] powtrix, is that conky on the right? [00:02] antiwire, i love these small heads :} [00:02] top? [00:03] the sys info stuff [00:03] ah, automatik karamba stuff [00:03] k [00:04] you know what would be really good? A Trex just wading into the water at that bend they are looking at. [00:05] but then I have this urge to see people on boats get eaten [00:05] I have velociraptor dreams. [00:05] nice day when I was there [00:06] antiwire, really? Strange. [00:07] I'll tell you this; no dream that involves velociraptors is a good dream. [00:08] nope [00:09] dhw (n=dhw@ip70-171-182-160.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:10] I remember when jurassic park came out. I was walking past the local cinema and there was a man with a small child around the side. The poor kid was throwing his guts up. [00:10] scarey film [00:10] hehe [00:10] yeah that movie scared me half to death [00:10] indiana jones was a good trilogy [00:10] is* [00:11] it's not a trilogy [00:11] like one :P [00:11] the saga [00:12] as the Terminator 1-3 was good with "Hastalavista" man, 4 i didnt like [00:12] dunno really. I think harrison ford chose the wrong films after blade runner. Or perhaps the wrong films chose him. [00:13] blade runner was made in 85 i think, it's the best film w/ harrison ford imo [00:13] would ave liked to see him in something a bit more substantial than adventure stuff [00:14] ealier I think [00:14] dunno [00:14] blade runner is a classic [00:14] I'm going to walk 7 miles tonight [00:14] across the city and back [00:15] "time to die" [00:15] I'll leave in 15 minutes [00:15] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "pebkac, id-10-t clicked the X ^_^" [00:15] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.249) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:15] antiwire, http://www.yorapper.com/Photos/you-gonna-get-raped-yorapper.jpg [00:15] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8 [00:16] pinnen (i=pinnen@h-44-58.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:18] re [00:18] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:19] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [00:21] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.25) joined ##slackware. [00:28] 2 minutes [00:30] back with a quick question, I just got the following error... cc1: out of memory allocating 13006176 bytes after a total of 171237376 bytes ...not sure what it means, but i'm worried [00:32] what are you compiling? [00:32] building a slackbuild for Wireshark [00:32] really want a packet sniffer [00:33] and this is the slackbuild from SBo? [00:33] or your own? [00:33] from SBo [00:34] didn't want kismet? [00:34] hiptobecubic, is it better? [00:34] better is a tough word to use. It's fully functional. [00:34] was just reading about wireshark today in a mag and it sounded very robust and pretty intelligent [00:35] and "highly customizable" a phrase that lead me to Slackware, which I'm fairly happy with [00:36] now if only the same thing could be said about LUA [00:36] lol, nog liking LUA prodigal1? :P [00:36] not* [00:36] prodigal1, have you read about kismet? [00:36] fire|bird, not enjoying the mixed up .so files it leaves in my lib folder [00:37] fire|bird, which of course in turn create havok for my slackbuilds [00:37] lol [00:37] hiptobecubic, naw i havent, you would reccomend? [00:37] i found kismet more sensible to use, but that's just me [00:38] dhw (n=dhw@ip70-171-182-160.om.om.cox.net) left irc: [00:38] well i'm giving Wireshark one more chance to install before i begin looking for different options [00:38] ettercap > wireshark (imo) [00:38] oh, another possibility [00:38] got me some reading to do it would seem [00:39] well take care all, i'll be back on in about an hour [00:39] Action: prodigal1 waves [00:39] later prodigal1 [00:40] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:41] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[01:08] darkwurm (n=dw@75-93-1-171.eug.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Connection timed out [01:10] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:15] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:17] cmair (n=cmair@host56-111-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:20] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [01:23] So who's going to be the first to put slackware on this? http://www.zii.com/Developer/SDKProducts.aspx [01:24] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [01:24] pinnen (i=pinnen@h-44-58.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [01:25] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-93-25.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:26] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-93-25.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[01:50] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:50] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:50] hi people [01:51] ho Thom1 [01:51] hi Th [01:51] Thom1: [01:51] hey alisonken1noc [01:51] yo fire|bird: [01:54] w0rd. [01:54] back! [01:55] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:55] http://pastebin.com/m3d78aa9b [01:56] it really need all that shit? [01:56] antiwire: gg, is that just for getting video/audio working? [01:57] agentc0re wanted that [01:57] yes it needs it all..remember that it's a multiprotocol tool [01:57] Some of that stuff is needed for it anyway, aside from av stuff [01:57] i wonder why both Ubuntu & Fedora removed pidgin from their next releases, replacing it with empathy [01:57] sahko: thank gnome for that. :) [01:58] I really do like pidgin actually [01:58] fire|bird: it cant be that important. if pidgin was much better, i guess they would go with that [01:58] ps i havent really used empathy [01:58] even if the people in #pidgin lol when I tell them I run it on Slackware [01:58] and pidgin very rarely. [01:58] antiwire: same here, I've been using it for irc lately a lot, I used pidgin for IM'ing even when I still used Windows. [01:59] well, I run pidgin as well on Slack and Slamd64 (soon to be Slack64) [01:59] Action: eviljames too [01:59] But only for xmpp [01:59] I haven't used it since it was called gaim lol :D [01:59] fire|bird: That was one of the reasons I started using it. I can run pidgin on Linux and Windows [01:59] sahko: I've used empathy before, it's not bad, but imho, pidgin is better. [02:00] It lets me use the same IM encryption on Windows and Linux so I can talk to the same people with the same encryption on either [02:01] antiwire: yeah, when I was on windows, it was still gaim, and that's mostly what I started using when I first got to using irc, I guess I've just stuck with it all this time. :P [02:01] urgh, is drinking because you're bored a bad policy? [02:01] why would the makers of Fedora, let alone Ubuntu know if pidgin was better? [02:01] eviljames: no [02:01] antiwire: good to know [02:01] that is totally acceptable [02:02] Action: eviljames pours another whiskey/coke [02:02] s#whiskey/coke#blacktooth grin# <- I suppose I should call it by its proper name. [02:03] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [02:07] wow, brltty in slackware, who would thought [02:09] nice set of updates there too [02:11] btw I'm still reading that timecube thing [02:11] so I can better make fun of it [02:12] antiwire: you're actually _reading_ it? I got halfway through and ended up skimming the rest since it pretty much was just same theme different words [02:13] yeah, I've come to the same conclusion so far [02:13] but I feel like I should read it so I can rip it apart harder [02:14] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:14] timecube?! haha. haha. i think that guy is just crazy and wants to take over the world. [02:14] sort of like me [02:15] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:15] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [02:16] dchmelik: at least you're giving _something_ of a logical case on taking over the world :) [02:16] giuppy (n=giuppy@host134-160-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:17] SiegeX (i=SiegeX@unaffiliated/siegex) joined ##slackware. [02:18] HEY [02:18] YOU 3D FOLKS CANNOT MOCK THE 4D TIMECUBE [02:18] YOU'RE NOT EVEN IN THE RIGHT _DIMENSION_ TO DO SO [02:18] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:18] Does anyone else see the problem he creates when he talks about a 4 corner sphere? [02:18] I mnea srsly guys... [02:19] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-16-11.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:19] you just cant visualize the corners from the 3rd dimension [02:20] duh [02:20] isn't it obviuos? [02:20] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [02:20] No Man or God exists as One, or _Cubic_ _fish_ _of_ _Opposites_, divide the egg into 4 Opposing Quadrants. [02:21] Ray Gene is not the only one who possesses the Order of Harmonic Antipodal Cubic Divinity Life. [02:22] you cannot do that... it is like saying divide the circle into 8 opposing octants [02:22] lunacy can be a matter of bad timing. if he wrote his stuff in 200 years maybe it wouldnt sound so insane. there might be much more than the mind can understand there. one day he might be considered as an innovator [02:22] /s/lunacy/suspicion of lunacy or whatever [02:23] I'm well aware of what a tesseract is but this Ray Gene dude is talking about spheres with corners... [02:24] sahko: As soon as you can explain to me why the phrase "Queers killed my lil brother." fits into timecubism, I will accept that he may be the penultimate genius of our time. [02:24] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-20-217.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:24] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [02:24] I'm wondering about the validity of his doctorate, especially when the person talking about 4D doesn't bring up hypercubes at all. [02:26] eviljames: lol. dunno [02:27] this part seems important: "After 30 years of research, I now possess the Order of Harmonic Antipodal Cubic Divinity Life - too large for physical form, but Binary Spirit of the masculinity Sun & feminity Earth Antipodes. ONEism is demonic Death Math." [02:27] OH....MY.......http://qikr.com/3h2dvf [02:28] NEEEEED INTENNNNSSSEEE SOOOOOODDDDAAAAAAAA [02:28] lol [02:28] that is hilarious [02:28] someone with a Phd would not write like that [02:29] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn2UCqL5qyo [02:30] hey, do std slack pkg tools have a mechanism for blacklisting package as "no install"? [02:30] like, i never want emacs installed. [02:30] you can use a tagfile, right? [02:30] right ty [02:30] eviljames: I'd say she's have a few too many INTENSE SODA's. [02:30] s/have/had/ [02:31] ok guys now having seen that Gene Ray guy talk...I'm pretty sure he is a stroke victim [02:31] but that's within a dir. do the tools provide for a file outside the pkg drs? [02:31] and by the looks of it, she even eats the cans/bottles [02:31] I mean that in all seriousness of strokes [02:31] I'm willing to be that he has sustained at least a moderate stroke [02:31] be/bet [02:32] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-31-83.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [02:32] Quiznos: pkgtools are shell scripts, they don't respect no stinkin' black list [02:32] you tell installpkg to install a pkg, it installs it. [02:33] k [02:33] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [02:33] in all fairness, I, too, removepkg e/*t?z after installing :P [02:34] how can you call the top and bottom of a cube sides? [02:34] yeah boy he wins. answer THAT one [02:34] i usually rm before instaling; faster that way [02:34] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-13-218.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:34] antiwire: one has a single dot on it, the other has 6 dots [02:34] lol [02:34] or I use mc to ftp and deselect what i dont want [02:34] eviljames: are you watching that interview? [02:34] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-75-115.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:34] this is awesome. [02:35] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [02:35] i think this guy is smarter than the timecube guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dWem_g8JCQ [02:35] fire|bird, do you like my smileys ? lol [02:36] i've got 40 smileys [02:36] i can send them to you lol [02:36] they are so great lool [02:36] 40? good grief, is that your hobby, you collect smileys? [02:36] lol [02:37] fire|bird, photo, computer, [02:37] =) [02:37] antiwire: i bookmarked it, gf and I are watching wild things (no, the good parts haven't happened yet) [02:37] hooray movietime! [02:37] hi eviljames :) [02:37] fredoslack: salut! ca va? [02:37] lol [02:37] eviljames, j'ai un peu de mal avec Linux lol [02:37] but ça va mieux aller [02:38] j'ai reinstaller SUbuntu [02:38] Ubuntu$ [02:38] eviljames, et regarde [02:38] watch [02:38] ca n'est pas bon. installez Slackware [02:38] picture of slackboy [02:38] hu huhu [02:39] tu'n veux pas l'Ubuntu! [02:39] ooo a french lession to me :) [02:39] eviljames, slackboy >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Endormi/0004.gif [02:39] hihi [02:40] Quiznos: trust fredoslack's French over mine, I'm roughly bilingual, but it's quebecois and years out of practice :P [02:40] err, I mean, WHY DON'T FRENCH PEOPLE JUST WISE UP AND SPEAK AMURRICKAN? [02:40] bon j'y vais je vais au taff, à bientot lol ... [02:40] eviljames ok [02:40] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [02:40] the approved name is meerkin [02:40] cherife (n=cherife@121.0.29.226) left irc: "leaving" [02:41] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [02:41] eviljames i'm nihilingual, so there! :) [02:43] jaher (n=nnscript@24-205-186-242.dhcp.azus.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [02:46] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [02:46] hi tint [02:46] tiny [02:46] gm Quiznos [02:47] Prefe (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:47] how are you? [02:49] Quiznos: never better :D [02:50] vkool [02:50] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8995D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:52] "Santa & God debase women as if non-existing opposites. How evil unto their mothers. " <--wtf? [02:52] santa? [02:52] typo [02:52] lol [02:52] but the statement is incorrect [02:53] God doesnt debase; Man does. [02:54] as for Santa, he hates everyone equally :) [02:54] lol [02:54] have you read this write up? [02:54] nop [02:54] it's right up your alley [02:54] http://www.timecube.com/ [02:54] [scoff] thanks :) [02:54] yea that url has been making the rounds here on fnode [02:55] I wish I could become as delusional as Gene Ray [02:55] That would be fun as all hell [02:56] one man's delusion is another man's troof [02:56] but if I must be labelled `delusional' then so be it, i'll be delusional For the Lord. [02:57] which Lord? [02:57] I think Quiznos missed the point here [02:57] the Lord son of the Creator [02:57] what point? [02:58] according to "The Cubic" you an me are equally evil no matter what we think [02:58] and* [02:58] and some how Santa comes into play too [02:58] darmouth (n=dartmout@24.25.172.165) joined ##slackware. [02:58] "evil" is a facet of an unrepentant mind; it's not "genetic" [02:59] it takes practice to avoid being evil; and it takes God to make a man Good. [02:59] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: "chao pajudos =P" [02:59] how can i use the .forward file to specify multiple emails to forward to? [03:00] i must be missing something in the man [03:00] i have one line 'dartmouth@gnodes.org' then one '\$username' and i should be able to put one more email like 'other-user@gmail.com' right? [03:02] darmouth darmouth google procmail+.forward [03:02] there's a howto [03:02] im using sendmail and postfix [03:03] that's ok [03:03] google [03:03] Obey your inner Quiznos :)~ [03:03] Action: darmouth googles again since no one wants to help :( [03:03] what am i, chopped $user? [03:03] i did help [03:04] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [03:04] i'm sorry i kept disconecting [03:05] is it possible to run an installer to completion inside sandboxie? [03:05] should be [03:05] they're sposed to finish. [03:05] arenty they? [03:05] this one isn't [03:06] wazit? [03:06] then again i meant to type it into #windows [03:06] lol [03:06] macdrive [03:06] duno it thank gawd [03:06] marriage of mac, win7 and slack [03:06] Action: Quiznos shudders [03:06] ew [03:06] i know >_> [03:06] hah [03:07] that's really perverted [03:07] Action: jaher is ashamed [03:07] forgiven [03:07] lol [03:07] at least say you're doing it for a client who pays? [03:07] Action: nooper is all for such kinky OS marriages [03:07] lie [03:07] lol [03:07] nooper lol [03:08] lol [03:08] actually i'm in audio [03:08] keeping tabs on linux development of DAWs [03:09] yea yea, sure sure (another exclusive macro by Quiznos) [03:09] hrm.....i wonder if this file will allow me to insert something in the subject to indicate it's been forwarded [03:09] lol [03:12] my Canadian cousin is coming down here to visit [03:12] that fool. [03:12] kool is she single [03:12] muwahwahwah [03:12] she is single [03:13] SW337!! [03:13] send foto [03:13] hah [03:13] yeah right [03:13] at least let her decide if she wants a sammich [03:13] I mean yea yea, sure sure [03:13] lol [03:13] heh [03:14] see, delusions can be phun. [03:14] jaher (n=nnscript@24-205-186-242.dhcp.azus.ca.charter.com) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [03:14] Quiznos: I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you wouldn't stand a chance. :P [03:14] http://qikr.com/3h2dvf here's a pice of antiwire's cousin [03:14] fire|bird BUT I'M A PHUNIE sammich [03:14] oh man [03:14] you cant kill a delusion [03:14] i'm entitled! hah [03:14] that image is brutal. [03:14] s/delusion/delusional/ [03:15] antiwire: it has so many uses. [03:15] eviljames: indeed it does. :P [03:15] time to co0k; bbiaf [03:17] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [03:22] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-75-115.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:22] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:23] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. 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[03:44] jeev: when the wife and I first got together, we had a juno dial-up email account. When my job took me travelling, I had to create a different account, but allisonken1 was too long and kenallison was already taken [03:44] ahh you dont have them there [03:44] crazy alisonken1noc [03:45] the things we do for the ones we love :) [03:45] seriously [03:45] i played ball for ~4 hours, went to my girlfriends house and didn't even shower! we watched a movie, i wore her brothers shirt and socks, i kept my shorts; ) [03:45] well, she did that one for me haha [03:45] i felt nasty [03:46] well now. opensuse has decided that v11.2 will set the default wm to kde rather than gnome [03:46] why? [03:47] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2009-08/msg00548.html [03:48] the topic of a "default desktop" was raised in July as a feature[1] in our [03:48] openFATE feature tracking system by a community member, and it was a subject [03:48] of a lively debate within openFATE and on the openSUSE Project mailing [03:48] Channel flood from alisonken1noc -- kicking [03:48] list[2] [03:48] alisonken1noc kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [03:48] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [03:48] doh [03:48] one too many lines :) [03:49] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:49] hey there everyone [03:50] hey prodigal1 [03:50] heya, having a hell of a time figuring my new problem out [03:50] lol [03:50] getting a cc1: out of memory error when trying to install Wireshark [03:51] strace it [03:51] uswe -o [03:52] put -o as an option when i try build again? [03:52] sorry, not installing it [03:52] no, to strace [03:53] my bad, i'm building the .tgz out of a slackbuild [03:53] strace -o [03:53] on the cc [03:53] .... i'm pretty new to this :$ [03:53] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:54] ask a question [03:54] I'm not sure what you mean by use strace on the cc [03:55] strace prints interesting info about calls made during a program's run. [03:55] darmouth (n=dartmout@24.25.172.165) left irc: "Leaving" [03:56] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:58] so if i use strace on the call to start the build, it will tell me every system call? [03:58] can only strace binaries [03:58] Srbo (n=Srbo@212.200.150.7) joined ##slackware. [03:59] I'm just wondering what causes the error i'm getting [03:59] read also libc.info /malloc/ for info re environment vars to produce malloc tracing [04:01] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.25) left irc: "Leaving" [04:02] I have somewhat of an embarassing question, is it possible for me to create a swap partition now? because somehow I think I messed up and didnt create one [04:02] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:02] if you have the space on a hd somewhere [04:03] i believe i set apart an amount for it, but never set it up [04:03] accidentally [04:03] ok [04:04] because i believe that may be a part of the problem i'm facing here [04:04] k; do so. [04:04] do you know how to allocate it after the fact haha [04:04] oddsock (n=me@adsl-12-135.teol.net) joined ##slackware. [04:04] with fdisk; change the partition type value to \x83 i think [04:05] read mkswap manpage [04:05] kk [04:05] swap is 82 iirc [04:05] ty [04:06] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [04:06] prodigal1 use fdisk's ? to see cmd list; select Types list to check [04:06] what is the command to see my partition table [04:06] before i do anything [04:06] fdisk -l [04:07] thats a L [04:07] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [04:07] fdisk -L [04:07] ? [04:07] -l [04:07] gotcha [04:08] hrmm [04:09] http://gist.github.com/171717 is what fdisk -l produces, i dont think i made a swap partition... :( [04:10] this is unfortunate [04:10] that list wont tell you; t's df not fdisk [04:11] use fdisk! [04:11] freesbee [04:14] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [04:15] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:15] y0 antiwire [04:15] hey slackytude! [04:15] hey antiwire [04:15] hows it hanging? [04:16] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [04:16] morning :) [04:16] any lwn.net subscriber? [04:16] saggin 'n sloppy [04:16] i think i am [04:16] why? [04:17] Quiznos, it looks like I dont have any available sectors [04:17] could you make me a link to http://lwn.net/Articles/347547/ ? :P [04:17] bummer [04:17] Camarade_Tux: not a subscriber but an avid folower :D [04:17] i have an extended partition [04:17] (I'll be in exams when it gets available) [04:17] Camarade_Tux tinyurl? where ya want it? [04:17] and I am not _yet_ a subscriber [04:17] subscribe in seconds [04:17] Quiznos: you need to pay for fresh articles on lwn.net [04:18] o [04:18] 1 week old are free [04:18] bigtfishbone (n=bigtfish@0x57305c62.abnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [04:18] Quiznos: it's one of the paying articles but paying subscribers can link to it for people to read it for free :) [04:19] i never pay for nuttin [04:19] :) [04:19] ok; oopsie; i dont exist there [04:19] sorry [04:19] hehe :P [04:19] bigtfishbone (n=bigtfish@0x57305c62.abnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [04:20] Mikey^ (n=vignesh@122.164.254.252) joined ##slackware. [04:20] Hey guys [04:20] ok now reg'd [04:20] Quiznos, one question, how do I tell which partition my slackware is installed on?? [04:20] Does the latest 2.4.x support intel 3945 wireless cards ? [04:20] prodigal1 mount, proc/mounts; you should know. [04:21] lol: http://www.google.com/trends?q=women+rights%2C+crime+rate&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=1 [04:21] haha i know i should know, it all happened so fast! [04:21] Camarade_Tux gotta wait til aug 27th [04:21] Mikey^: 2.4.x, you the kernel? [04:21] Quiznos: ='( [04:22] yeah the linux kernel [04:22] bigtfishbone (n=bigtfish@0x57305c62.abnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [04:22] Mikey^: I don't use it but I bet it doesn't [04:22] why do you want 2.4 anyway? [04:22] just for fun [04:22] I have 2.6.x, planning to compile 2.4.x just for fun [04:23] well, seems your hardware may not be ok [04:23] chii (i=chii@freenode/bot/chii) joined ##slackware. [04:23] sata? [04:23] Quiznos, I suppose I could just make a swap file no? [04:24] My hardware runs fine.. [04:24] prodigal1 not sure; read manpage [04:24] Mikey^: sata disks or pata disks? [04:24] sata [04:24] with lvm [04:24] Quiznos, sorry to bug you all night, thanks for your help man [04:24] no bug; yvw [04:25] i'm just ftping the world and wire is saturated, and tv [04:25] I dont mind even if I just get my sound and ethernet working :) [04:25] http://valerieaurora.org/tcpip.html [04:25] that's cool stuff [04:26] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [04:27] do you think it will mess up my system in anway ? [04:27] Mikey^: you might have issues with udev and hal [04:27] worst that can happen, is I wont be able to boot with 2.4.x kernel, I can always boot back up with my 2.6.x kernel [04:27] I'm not totally certain but it might not work at all on a system designed with only 2.6 in mind [04:28] prodigal1 we done or is there more? [04:28] i'm just examining my partition table [04:28] ok [04:29] Quiznos, under boot, the * notifies the boot up sector correct? [04:29] no, the boot part. [04:29] active part [04:29] prodigal1: you can have more then one active partition too [04:30] the only thing that makes a partition bootable in the Linux world is a boot loader [04:30] strange, because my * is beside my smallest partition... [04:30] then/than [04:31] Mikey^: I'm almost sure 2.4 won't be able to use your sata controller [04:31] yeah I saw that [04:31] plus you'd better start with slackware11 [04:31] just checking all the menus in 2.4 kernel [04:31] doesnt have wireless support either [04:31] antiwire, or Quiznos wanna look at my partition table and let me know if it looks normal :$ http://gist.github.com/171717 [04:31] you know, there's a reason slackware uses 2.6 :P [04:31] I missed part of it - why 11 and not 12? [04:32] I am using 2.6 [04:32] prodigal1: it'sfine but you didn't need that extended partition [04:32] alisonken1noc: he wants kernel 2.4 [04:32] I am currently running 2.6.31-rc6 [04:32] ah [04:32] prodigal1 yea that's all assigned [04:32] Action: Camarade_Tux git pulls and gets a kernel even more recent than that [04:33] I just got in an hour ago [04:33] 2.6.31-rc6-git6 [04:33] :-P [04:33] thanks guys, i'm going to make a swap file then [04:33] theres a reason its not an rc [04:33] du -hs /lib/modules/2.6.31-rc6 [04:33] 1.2M /lib/modules/2.6.31-rc6 [04:33] :) [04:34] Mine is empty [04:34] huh [04:34] just kidding :) [04:34] :p [04:34] I currently have three modules loaded: fuse, piix, nvidia [04:34] Camarade_Tux: 100K /lib/modules/2.6.31-rc6/ [04:35] I keep fuse as a module so I can modprobe -r it when I have troubles with ntfs-3g [04:35] I need wireless always so I put it part of the kernel and plus fine tuned it [04:36] I changed my kernel config some time ago and added a bunch of modules to pinpoint a problem [04:36] oh [04:36] who was having the synaptics touchpad problem already? [04:39] 25C inside, 15C outside, all windows opened [04:39] bigtfishbone (n=bigtfish@0x57305c62.abnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:39] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:41] jaher (n=nnscript@24-205-186-242.dhcp.azus.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [04:42] Camarade_Tux: you have a heater or something ? [04:42] Mikey^: nope, nothing :P [04:42] :) [04:42] i bet you have a black roof [04:42] probably just the sun, and the fact that for the outside temp, it's not on the sunny side [04:42] Camarade_Tux, ITS FUCKING NICE [04:42] antiwire: nope [04:42] slackytude: :) [04:43] Camarade_Tux, 18, bit of rain [04:43] real nice :D [04:43] after yesterdays torture [04:43] slackytude: oh, really nice :) [04:43] so hot yesterday. I start sweating when I think about i [04:44] slackytude: about sweating, its 39 deg celsius at my place [04:45] 18 inside , 39 outside :) [04:45] Mikey^, O_o [04:45] http://www.thefuckingweather.com/?zipcode=paris&CELSIUS=yes says 20C :) [04:45] Mikey^, thats hot! [04:45] slackytude: and think the same temp for almost 4 months now [04:45] -_- [04:45] Id rather not [04:46] had a bit of rain in past week [04:46] india :) [04:46] but its gets more sultry than cool [04:46] Camarade_Tux: yup [04:46] geoip works pretty well :D [04:46] Stupid american-assumers [04:46] Zordrak: what? [04:46] there was a sheffield in england before america existed [04:47] but of COURSE it assumes im in Sheffield, VT [04:47] Zordrak: there was a paris in france before america existed :D [04:47] there is one here to. [04:47] its more of a electronic hardware market [04:48] Camarade_Tux: is there a way to block the ctcp ? [04:48] night everyone, Quiznos I'll let you know if the swap file helped in the long run, cheers [04:48] I would have know that you did that if I was using xchat, pidgin doesnt intimate me [04:48] known* [04:49] google maps geolocation api only tells it I'm in Paris, not very precise [04:49] Mikey^: dunno :D [04:49] Hehe [04:51] I'm surprised at the number of people on only one channel [04:51] I was on #linux and #freebsd [04:51] just closed them some time back [04:52] The problem with IPv6: You cant have JUST IPv6. You need IPv4 alongside it until everyone has it. [04:52] so are you [04:52] OT much [04:52] I think that will take a while [04:52] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [04:52] to get every one to ipv6 [04:52] I'm on ##slackware, #something, #ocaml, #nouveau, #webkit-gtk, #tukaani, #mldonkey, #conkey, #ocaml-fr and would still be on #mplayer, #videolan, #x264 and others if the computer hadn't died [04:53] :-P [04:53] Zordrak: you can't tunnel ipv4 in ipv6? [04:54] anyone tried the nvidia driver with kernel 2.6.31? [04:54] Camarade_Tux: you still need the v4.. you need /an address/ [04:54] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [04:54] Zordrak: well, yeah >< [04:54] Zordrak: but you can get the porn for free too! [04:54] Action: Camarade_Tux hides [04:57] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:57] nah, ipv6experiment.com is down! [04:58] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [04:59] yeah, CONFIG_PERF_COUNTERS :) [05:00] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. 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[05:25] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [05:27] Camarade_Tux: that doesn't work if you want to keep the old data/text in the file :) 'mv slackytude: :) [05:27] anyone have a disk performance tool preference? [05:27] (writes as well as reads) [05:28] I prefer tools that work [05:28] interesting.. [05:28] alisonken1noc: all you do is garbage anyway: rm old_name && cat /dev/urandom > new_name [05:28] hadnt considered that [05:28] Zordrak: some say bonnie++ iirc [05:28] pupit (n=pupit@91.150.106.33) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:29] Camarade_Tux: rm && dd if=/dev/random of= bs=1024 count=1024 [05:29] ty= [05:29] don't want to take up the whole disk [05:31] alisonken1noc: nah, it's better if it never finishes :) [05:31] hah [05:31] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [05:42] titopoquito (n=tito@p508ED3C3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[05:47] image=foor [05:47] addappend="your other text goes here" [05:47] bah [05:48] root=/dev/sda2 [05:48] addappend="a=1 b=2 c=3" [05:48] and it doesn't seem to work [05:48] what part [05:50] seems the whole addappend is ignore [05:51] gonna try a reboot [05:51] what version lilo [05:53] well, it's listed in the manpage and I'm on 64-current [05:54] hey i think i found a bug with on_ac_power [05:54] reproduce it [05:54] if you go through the commands and run them in a shell, since it's a shell script, you get an error that you need another ] [05:55] another what? [05:55] but i can't find the problem: i see the same number of [ as ] [05:55] brackets [05:55] paste it? [05:55] don't need to really unless you insist ... 32 bit slackware 13.0 -rc2, current as of today [05:56] i'm not there yet [05:56] just less `which on_ac_power` [05:56] 43 [05:56] (line 43) [05:56] hmmmm, gonna rsync and upgrade :D [05:57] if you grep -v '#' (i.e. remove all commented lines) and run the commands in sequence from a shell, you get: [05:57] bash: [: missing `]' [05:57] if {fn} ? [05:57] the line that starts "for device" [05:57] k [05:57] hold on [05:58] d6390f6e5a1e7ecf2e0ea48122893311 /usr/bin/on_ac_power [05:58] is that your md5 value? [05:59] http://pastebin.com/d239d73fe [05:59] yea i dont have that version (both scrips are missing version info [06:00] well it's pastebin'd [06:00] anyways, i get the bash error when run (and i've tried it over and over to make sure i have it right) [06:00] the problem i'm getting is that whether on AC power or not, it returns false (not on AC power) [06:00] and pm_utils depends on it [06:00] hmmm, just got a message CPU1: temperature/speed normal [06:00] er it's part of pm_utils [06:00] I'm currently compiling the kernel with make -j3 [06:01] Camarade_Tux, use # cpu's x 4 [06:01] anyways, but if i run the commands it calls (hal commands) it returns that i have an AC adapter and that i am NOT on AC power [06:01] TwinReverb: what do you get when you run "hal-find-by-capability --capability ac_adapter" by itself? [06:01] so the script is broken [06:01] no textual errors in script [06:02] /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_power_supply_ac_adapter_ADP1 [06:02] i put the condition [ "$present" = "true" ] && exit 0 in an if statement and it returns the opposite [06:03] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.25.18) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:03] i.e. if [ "$present" = "true ]; then echo "yes" else echo "no"; fi (etc you get the point: trying not to flood) [06:03] yea [06:03] alisonken1noc: plug lilo doesn't complain [06:03] [ "$present" == "true" ] && echo 'yes' || echo 'no' [06:03] well, reboot and new test [06:03] basically if i write my own script the same exact way i get the right result every time, if i use on_ac_power (this is mainly when i try to make my own /etc/acpi/acpi_handler.sh) it returns the opposite [06:03] try s/=/==/g [06:04] for string compare [06:04] i thought it was supposed to be == but when i did that edit alone it didn't fix the problem [06:04] heh [06:04] bash.1 "= maybe used instead of == [06:05] or use awk [06:05] well this is a script that comes with pm_utils so this is actually a bug in something "upstream" from Slackware (technically) [06:05] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:05] unless they want to just fix their script [06:05] k [06:05] should i email Patrick about all of this? [06:05] yea [06:05] roger [06:06] ask about versioning the script too. [06:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [06:07] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [06:07] wait [06:07] well, seems ok now [06:07] the thing is that I shouldn't have booted since I had a broken init= setting [06:07] PAt's not the author [06:07] email richard hughs as author [06:08] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [06:08] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [06:09] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.18) joined ##slackware. [06:09] Camarade_Tux what init= value? [06:09] Camarade_Tux: what was the broken init= ? [06:10] I had set init=/sbin/bootchartd but I haven't installed bootchart yet :D [06:10] what did kernel do? [06:10] it booted [06:10] rebooted? [06:10] or ran a shell? [06:10] nah, it started as normal [06:10] so it ignored the init=value? [06:11] which makes me believe the addappend line was dropped altogether [06:11] rworkman, pingggg gggg gggg [06:11] i've not seen that in lilo; check lilo big README file for that keyword [06:11] TwinReverb did you see my wait+2 above? [06:12] Quiznos, well i should probably let pat know as CC [06:12] eya [06:12] Srbo (n=Srbo@212.200.150.7) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [06:12] well, convert doesn't want to convert my bootgraph.svg ='( [06:13] Quiznos: has been available for >= 2 years [06:13] kk [06:13] ok - guess it's time to install rc2 on the laptop [06:13] as soon as my rsync script finishes rsyncing and building the dvd [06:14] interesting, though, I tried burning the dvd the other day and had to dump sources because k3b said the image was too big [06:15] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [06:16] usb boot + external hard drive :) [06:16] Quiznos, want to be included BCC? [06:16] Srbo (n=Srbo@srv5.inffo.net) joined ##slackware. [06:16] nah - usbboot + network from desktop [06:16] pls; idknow at gmail [06:16] or CC [06:17] :) [06:17] I HATE DEBIAN! [06:17] the next person to type "My SQL" or "lap top" in a ticket is gonna get crucified [06:17] seems the even patch robots! [06:17] heh [06:17] Quiznos, roger that [06:17] kk [06:17] Zordrak: it's miiiiine! [06:17] alisonken1noc: works too :) [06:18] ticket: slap lappy [06:20] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [06:20] theblackerbox (n=sammo@89.240.17.52) joined ##slackware. [06:21] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:21] hmmm, seems the bootgraph.svg I just generated is bad [06:22] Nick change: theblackerbox -> theblackbox [06:22] gah [06:22] well, firefox can display it [06:22] I have to make a wikipedia entry about out frim and software [06:22] our firm [06:22] (but convert chokes, webkit-gtk too, ...) [06:23] slackytude: ethics tell you not to! [06:23] huh? [06:23] what has ethics do with i [06:24] _MakubeX (i=horas@my.barbie.wears.no-panties.org) joined ##slackware. [06:24] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Leaving" [06:24] that you shouldn't be writing entries about you/your company/... [06:24] (and yeah, I don't care ;) ) [06:24] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.60.188) joined ##slackware. [06:24] wikipedia does _not_ like commercials on their website :) [06:25] I found that out when I tried adding a linux distro to it [06:25] which one? [06:25] mutagenix [06:25] but that was a couple of years ago [06:26] well, nobody else cares about our firm [06:26] never got an answer back from them about how to word it to make it conform [06:27] MakubeX (i=horas@my.barbie.wears.no-panties.org) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [06:27] Quiznos, sent [06:27] Nick change: _MakubeX -> MakubeX [06:27] pgeek||_ (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [06:27] (hmmm, vt switch to/from X faster with the vesa driver than with the nvidia one) [06:28] alisonken1noc: haha: deleted "spam" [06:28] TwinReverb: try adding "echo '$present'" between lines 43 and 44 and see what you get [06:30] alisonken1noc, sorry, busy popping [06:30] Camarade_Tux: wikipedia notes I didn't see? [06:30] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable213.189-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:31] alisonken1noc: just on en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutagenix [06:31] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [06:32] anyone has a bootchar.jar to share with me? [06:32] *bootchart.jar [06:32] well, that was the timeframe I was helping Dan [06:32] I don't feel like installing the jdk and ants just to get that file which can be shared [06:32] popping popcorn for the ping pong tournament [06:33] bah, had forgotten troubles with dialog-base interface in utf8 linux console [06:36] Is there a way to see what files have been modified by a certian user with in the past 24 hours? I can do a "find . -mtime 1" but that doesn't show who. [06:37] last time I had installed a zenwalk package and it worked without problem (yeah, I didn't know it was a zenwalk package and the files are arch-independant) [06:37] anyway, afk for now, bbs [06:37] lf4: -uname or uid= [06:37] lf4: -uname or -uid [06:37] mtime -1 too [06:38] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:38] Zordrak: I thought those only did user/group owners and not modified by [06:38] (-uname and -uid options) [06:40] linux filesystems don't track that metadata [06:41] it [06:41] it's possible to find out, by creating a timeline of all timestamps on the system, but it's a major pain [06:42] alright :) thanks ananke Zordrak and alisonken1noc [06:42] Srbo (n=Srbo@srv5.inffo.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:44] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [06:44] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[07:44] hmmmm - slackware64-current iso size is 5G [07:44] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:44] 5.48G [07:49] wow [07:49] errrr [07:49] patrick might have to actually move source to dvd #2 *shudder* [07:49] mine is about 2GB and the only thing I remove is kde [07:53] TwinReverb: same sources for both slackware32/64 (with a couple of minor exceptions), so wonder what the difference is [07:53] tooly (n=tooly@e178154136.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [07:54] hi [07:54] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-31-83.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [07:54] unless slack64 is starting to inlcude slamd64 compat libs [07:54] s/slamd64/fred's/ [07:55] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [07:55] Hello! [07:56] hola [07:57] ok - slackware source=1.9G slackware64 source=2.7G [07:58] slackware usb/pxe installers 31M slackware64 usb/pxe installers 21M [07:58] and slackware has /patches where slackware64 doesn't [08:00] hey i got following strange o/p form netstat [08:00] udp 0 0 192.168.100.10:41761 192.168.100.1:5351 ESTABLISHE [08:00] no idea why local ip, is shown [08:00] udp stream from .10 to .1 [08:01] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [08:01] alisonken1noc: but there in no lan or any other connections from my box [08:01] possibly because there's multiple local IP's available, so netstat allows for that [08:01] obviously it looks like there's one :) [08:01] i'm directly connected to internet [08:01] ifconfig? [08:02] ifconfig -a [08:02] alisonken1noc: my dhcp ip, [08:02] nothing more, [08:03] unless you have something other than a 192.X address, you're not directly connected to the internet [08:03] hm, [08:03] does connecting to wordpress create any such problem, [08:03] 192. is one of those magic numbers that IETF requires _all_routers to drop [08:04] yes, [08:04] udp is also used for dns inquiries as well [08:05] alisonken1noc: strange fact is that my system,never used or have udp connections, [08:05] .1 being your masq router, I would hazard a guess that youre machine may be doing a lookup - other than the ports not looking right - too high a source port number (userspace comes to mind) [08:06] s/source/destination/ [08:06] browser plugin maybe? [08:06] alisonken1noc: i have cable modem, [08:06] jaher (n=nnscript@24-205-186-242.dhcp.azus.ca.charter.com) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [08:06] and i use opendns [08:07] nothing more of networking stuff [08:07] there again - doesn't matter _how_ you get to the internet, if you have a 192. network, it's private. [08:07] route -n would probably show that your default goes to .1 - being your cable modem [08:09] it starts with 116.68.xx.0 [08:09] oddsock (n=me@adsl-12-135.teol.net) left irc: "Kopete 0.11.3 : http://kopete.kde.org" [08:09] bird (n=lee@pool-173-55-109-205.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:10] default route? and ifconfig -a? [08:10] yea i will paste bin that [08:11] macro (n=macro@bas2-montreal19-1177749799.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [08:11] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:12] alisonken1noc: http://pastebin.com/df902d85 [08:13] Hello, I recently installed 12.2 via online wget method. My kconf_update constantly hangs at 100% CPU and I have to forcefully kill it. I even remoed kconf_update bin from the path and yet it would still be called, I dunno how, anyways, I put it back in the path, not sure in the original dir [08:13] now I am considering installing kde 4.2 [08:13] I did this once with the slackware current tree, but this time around, the installer kept quiting early using the wget method [08:13] so I just installed 12.2 [08:14] now I noticed in the /current tree, kde 4,2 is part of it, and no longer part of testing [08:14] there are no docs on how to remove kde/qt 3.5 n'or scripts [08:14] I was wondering if anyone can point me to a link on the required packages I would need to remove before I attempt installing the 4.x kde/qt packages [08:15] theres kde 3 compat stuff in -current [08:16] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:17] capone: can I install kde 4.2 from -current onto my 12.2 install ? [08:19] im unsure, i installed -current for myself, and it works rather good [08:19] i would guess you could put current mirror into /etc/slackpkg/mirrors, and then run slackpkg update commands [08:19] which kernel is it in -current ? [08:21] 2.6.29.6 [08:21] alisonken1noc: my slackware64-current is 2.2GB [08:21] thank you [08:21] basicly im running current 64bit and i update it on a daily basis, because i cant wait for 13 to get released :P and to be honest i might stay on current because it works very good for me [08:22] Camarade_Tux: then I wonder what's up with my rsync [08:22] init[1]: what does lsof show? [08:22] alisonken1noc: how big is your slackware/ ? [08:22] slackware.no's is 1.8GB (or something close) [08:23] slackware64-current iso on slackware.no is 1.9gb if im not mistaken [08:23] yeah or 1.8 :p [08:23] Camarade_Tux: 2.1G [08:23] slackware64/ is also 2.1G [08:23] hmmm, close [08:23] (slackware.no's is 1800MB) [08:23] slackware64-current-18_Aug_2009-DVD.iso 1723464 KB [08:24] capone: does that include source/ ? [08:24] alisonken1noc: transmiss 3129 buffer 16u IPv4 10959 UDP 192.168.100.10:41761->192.168.100.1:5351 [08:24] i doubt that [08:24] alisonken1noc: argh, just a sec: the folder's growing here (rsync in progress), it's 2.4GB here [08:24] I exclude a few things but it's weird you would have 2GB of that [08:25] alisonken1noc: i dont think it has source, it would be bigger i think, i guess you can check their growiso script [08:25] alisonken1noc: how big are kde/ and kdei/ ? [08:25] rsync -av --log-file=${logfile} --bwlimit=${LIMIT} rsync://${site}/${basedir}/${version} ${saveto} [08:26] I exclude *kde*, *spell*, *java* (I don't know if that excludes anything since I have the jre), *jdk* [08:27] slack64 kde 477M kdei 310M [08:27] and in source/ ? [08:27] Reav___ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:28] Action: Camarade_Tux forgot to exclude xfce [08:28] VLife55VL (n=RScript@189.57.19.89) joined ##slackware. [08:28] phzin (n=RScript@189.57.19.89) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:28] and size should drop soon ehre since rsync is alsmost done [08:28] s/ehre/here/ [08:28] slack source/ 1.9G slack64 source 2.7G [08:28] imo, n/ has the most crap for a desktop that can be cut :> [08:28] Nick change: VLife55VL -> phzin [08:29] n is less than 70MB here [08:29] oh, firefox 3.5.2 :D [08:29] i'm starting to cut more and more these days [08:29] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [08:30] I've added back here [08:30] but I can still make light versions (<500MB on the cd) [08:31] (with devel tools :) ) [08:31] I'm sure I could do some cut downs as well [08:31] init[1]: what is process 10959 showing? [08:31] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.133.32.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [08:31] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [08:32] rsync done, 2.6GB [08:32] hmmm [08:32] something's broken [08:33] alisonken1noc: check in xap if you don't have several versions of xfce (for instance) [08:33] do i need to install the novinia (sp) driver for my raedon pcie card? it's in 800x600 mode atm, nasty! [08:34] wtf [08:34] ./slackware64/xap/xfce-4.6.1-x86_64-4.txz [08:34] ./slackware64/xap/xfce-4.6.1-x86_64-5.txz [08:34] hah [08:34] t0f: run xorgsetup as root? [08:34] i thinkk you mean nvidia and thats a different maker than radeon which is amd/ati [08:35] i did, it stays at the clack screen with the 'x' [08:35] clack == black [08:37] Camarade_Tux: i used 'X -configure' should i try 'xorgsetup', too? [08:37] Camarade_Tux: do you use the delete flag? :) [08:37] thrice`: rsync -rRyt --stats --progress --delete \ [08:37] has always worked [08:38] t0f: well, what is the driver in the xorg.conf? [08:38] shah16 (n=shah@121.246.152.157) joined ##slackware. [08:38] before i ran X -configure it was vesa now it's Raedon [08:39] run xorgsetup [08:39] t0f: is there any resolution set in xorg.conf? [08:39] and you can probably use xrandr to change your resolution [08:41] hold, i'm booting the system [08:43] anyone familiar with kconf_update running at 100%CPU with slackware 12.2 ? [08:43] I tried all those fixes by deleting kconf_updaterc and manually running kconf_update but same thing, also I some lines in some of the RC files but same thing [08:44] alisonken1noc: yea found it,my transmission torrent client was running [08:45] ah [08:45] but why was it using 192.* [08:45] that created all the fuss :) [08:45] alisonken1noc: no idea [08:45] alisonken1noc: but there was nothing to seed or leech [08:45] :) [08:45] thanks guys. you know your stuff. the card is displaying at 1280x1024 (just what i wanted) [08:45] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:45] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) joined ##slackware. [08:48] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:48] macro: tried running kconf_update with strace? :) [08:50] Buggaboo (n=Buggab00@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. 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[09:05] titopoquito (n=tito@p508ED3C3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [09:08] ew [09:08] you cant [09:08] alisonken1noc: :p [09:08] alisonken1noc: I think it's the good size [09:09] yeah - forgot I had fixed my script at home but not here for deleting replaced files [09:09] macro: there should be an open or fopen a bit before showing that same '9', what is the file involved? [09:09] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.133.32.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:09] alisonken1noc: but I don't get why *I* have several files [09:13] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:14] big_bass (n=big_bass@200.52.205.125) joined ##slackware. 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[09:22] hey i noticed the difference between "rsync /example/ /example/" and "rsync /example /example" how do i remember which does what? with the / and without the / [09:22] do you want the folder too or not [09:22] the folder itself? the /example folder itself? nope [09:23] missyjane: then do it with the/ [09:23] read the man page, it tells you about syncing files with the --delete option and /example /example (where /example is a directory) v. /example/file and /example/* [09:23] oooh... [09:24] alisonken1noc, i have about 1tb worth of stuff >< doing --delete only to find out i need the / is a pain in the ass lol [09:24] missyjane: s/folder/directory/ [09:24] folder is a microsoft word :) [09:24] Zordrak, blah, blame windows [09:24] lol [09:24] ya [09:24] a trailing slash on source means "copy the innard" not "copy the dir" [09:24] for my example, I just use "rsync -av --delete for slackware. works pretty good [09:24] Action: missyjane thanks everybody [09:24] Action: Zordrak blames windows [09:24] ty ty ty [09:24] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-118-45.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:25] and don't forget the "--bwlimit=" so you don't hammer the upstream server [09:26] alisonken1noc, hehe this is local i dont think i have to worry about that :D [09:26] im so happy too, i setup truecrypt with these stuff [09:26] local or not - it can hammer your systems and networks. we've had issues here at the noc because of that :) [09:28] hm serious? ive never used bwlimit in my life... [09:28] me either tbh [09:29] just something to think about. at home, I have to ensure the bwlimit because it kills the internet for browsing [09:29] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-119-116.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:29] hm i can understand it on networks but local >< cant imagine how that affects the internet [09:29] awe alisonken1noc you should just go with out while you transfer ;) [09:30] nice thought, but I'm not the only one with a computer at the house :) [09:30] with that in mind, I try to rsync slackware when I go to bed [09:30] even more reason... "family togetherness time" lol [09:31] .. cron it for 4am [09:31] that way I wake up with a fresh iso to burn in the morning [09:31] im so happy [09:31] my verizon connection is snaky enough I'd rather make sure it starts properly [09:31] i went from 200 firefox tabs or so to about 50 this morning [09:31] so many good things happened [09:31] college... maybe a chance for the future... i hear good things about my local college too [09:31] :D [09:31] i dont quite see how that works... [09:32] you burn an iso daily? [09:32] mancha, dont quest alisonken1noc [09:32] missyjane: why did you have 200 firefox tabs? lol [09:32] i am amazed at at all this....i don't quite get it [09:32] nope - only when there's updates (dvd-rw) [09:32] lf4, a habit, i like having so much tabs opened for references [09:32] all of what? [09:33] the need to be up-to-date :) [09:33] hm too bad there is no such thing as 1tb dvd.... [09:33] missyjane: close to it... DL ;) [09:33] that would be TwinReverb and a couple of others. I've just been getting ready to update my laptop from 12.0 but haven't started yet [09:33] DL? [09:33] dual layer [09:34] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [09:34] dual layer is literally close to 1000gb? [09:34] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-156-188.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [09:34] DL still has a long way to go to get even close to 1T size [09:34] 9G [09:34] 9GB roughly [09:34] I really want to get a tape drive for backups lol that would be awesome. [09:34] oh i would need about 10 of those discs then, yikes [09:34] 8.6G [09:34] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "-" [09:34] LTO3 here :) [09:34] err 100* [09:34] LT03? [09:34] tape [09:34] yikes [09:34] i sure hope slack doesn't start exceeding standard DVD length any timesoon [09:35] hooked up to a robotic tape library [09:35] the old fashioned types prefer something that can store a lot and be reused :) [09:35] for pete's sake, it wasn't too long ago it was a set of 3.5"-ers [09:35] only 12 floppies :) [09:35] theoretical limit in the library with the tapes i have atm is 25.6TB [09:35] jukebox? [09:35] nice Zordrak [09:35] macro: it would have, if stuck with .tgz format [09:35] (w/compression) [09:35] mancha hehe im getting worried myself [09:36] bird (n=lee@pool-173-55-109-205.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:36] alisonken1noc, do you use truecrypt with your backups? [09:36] Zordrak, do you? [09:36] backups? what are those? :) [09:36] D: i dont understand.. [09:36] arent those things you make backup? [09:36] at least storage backup? [09:37] at the noc we use humongous filers for backups using raid10 [09:37] is... is slackboy nice to me today? D: [09:37] wtf [09:38] waffle [09:38] lol alisonken1noc I was thinking about doing that with my system here. Setting up a RAID10 [09:38] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: Connection timed out [09:38] hardware raid with raid10 is nice [09:39] my rsync --exclude="*xfce*" still leaves me with two xfce-s [09:39] we have some 24-bay shelves with 1.5T drives in them - hotplug drives [09:39] alisonken1noc: ptchaw [09:39] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: No route to host [09:39] RAID61 here :-D [09:39] novacrust (n=Crust@72.12.184.33) joined ##slackware. [09:39] (3ware 9650SE h/w) [09:39] udevd^ (i=udevd@host-89-229-70-199.szczecin.mm.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:40] udevd^ (i=udevd@host-89-229-70-199.szczecin.mm.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:40] Zordrak: nice [09:40] 3-ware has been giving us some issues (1.5T drives unsupported), so using LSI cards on new machines. The one thing I do like about 3-ware is their raid tool [09:40] usb_wifi_dongle (n=usb_wifi@34.Red-83-55-44.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [09:40] i want to use my netbook as an AP and i have 3 different USB wireless dongles whose chipsets are ralink rt73usb, zydas zd1211rw and realtek rtl8187. has anyone here *recently* managed to use any of those in Master Mode, that is AP mode? [09:40] alisonken1noc: heh.. LSI bought 3ware anyways [09:41] alisonken1noc: i JUST got 3dm2 going [09:41] Camarade_Tux, use '' i think [09:41] the installer takes 30mins or so to accept a click [09:41] i dont get what's up with it [09:41] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@187.37.48.81) joined ##slackware. [09:41] I've only used madwifi in master mode [09:42] snowdonkey (n=snowdonk@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:42] missyjane: the other ones are working and I removed the files by hand and rsync doesn't add them [09:42] anyway, seems solved now, maybe I had done something on the files, I don't know [09:42] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-119-116.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:42] oh [09:42] hm [09:42] hi btw :) [09:43] hi <3 [09:43] god im nervous ok [09:44] alisonken1noc: hows the installer for you? [09:44] (on slack..) [09:44] missyjane: :P [09:46] mtyfull (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-oojwukbpwnbmmvau) joined ##slackware. [09:46] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-194-209.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:46] fuck relationships [09:46] Sometimes I wonder whether slackware attracts good troubleshooters, or it creates good troubleshooters [09:46] spook agreed [09:46] from now on, its the charlie harper life for me. [09:46] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host146-44-dynamic.7-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:47] you need good troubleshooters to create good ones...;) [09:47] what happeend spook? [09:47] spook, fuck relationships are sort of interesting, because you generally fuck without the complications. I'm all for it. [09:47] Buggaboo: both lol [09:47] spook: got spooked from something [09:48] mtyfull, nope relationships just suck, thats why i do my best to stay out of it [09:48] spook, say "hi" to mrs.left and mrs.right more often from now on. [09:48] Buggaboo: not if i'm living the charlie harper life [09:48] see? all men think about is sex [09:48] mikearr (n=miker@pool-72-91-179-75.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:48] mikearr (n=miker@pool-72-91-179-75.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [09:49] missyjane: thats not true lol [09:49] missyjane: women do the smae.. they just dont show it [09:49] for most guys it is [09:49] what's the old saying? i only think about sex once a day, but my thought lasts 24 hours [09:49] mikearr (n=miker@pool-72-91-179-75.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:49] mancha: lol ;) [09:50] Buggaboo: bad troubleshooters leave :D [09:51] in the nowadays society, for some (thank god for that) sex is all they think about, the older you get, and the more experienced you get, you realise that there are more things to worry about [09:51] chris2 (n=chris@dslb-094-216-076-116.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:51] Action: Camarade_Tux feels old [09:51] mtyfull, of course, when the package shrivels up, the possibilities around not having any sex is boundless! [09:51] Camarade_Tux: slackers make them feel so bad, they get the self respect to leave ;) [09:51] Zordrak: just getting ready to try rc2 [09:52] mtyfull: that or the fact they don't manage to get X running :D [09:52] spook: that's why there's relationships :) [09:52] Buggaboo: there is no possibility to go out in any night, in any part of the globe and look fro some and not get any ...nearly impossible [09:52] missyjane: not all - computers come to mind :) [09:53] alisonken1noc: relations are to have sex and to get the winging afterwards, [09:53] mtyfull, try australia in the outback, try any desert region... [09:53] Buggaboo: there are lots of people who like camels, :p [09:53] and sheep [09:53] and cangaroos :p [09:53] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [09:53] john_dee (n=id@93-81-71-163.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [09:53] alisonken1noc: thank you .. [09:53] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [09:53] Action: lf4 will take a computer over a relationship. both cause problems but at least you can fix the computer :P [09:53] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [09:54] lf4: you fcuk the relationship..;) [09:54] Killer! BBU test complete.. estimated battery backup capacity = 255 hours [09:54] fsck it. [09:54] Buggaboo: that is when the computer is already fucked ;)_ [09:54] hm if a relationship has an fs. [09:54] http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/21/florida.hero.killer/index.html [09:54] what happened here? how did this guy go from saving his wife to killing her? [09:55] shah16 (n=shah@121.246.152.157) left irc: "Leaving" [09:55] Action: Zordrak <3 3dm2 [09:55] missyjane, he realized he made a mistake? [09:55] lol [09:55] Buggaboo: lol [09:55] Buggaboo, marriage is a mistake? if so dont talk to me [09:55] and tried to correct it afterwards... [09:55] missyjane: are you married? [09:55] lf4 no [09:56] marriage is good if you have a good partner/relationship [09:56] ^^ agreed [09:56] yep i had found one until the idiot joined the military [09:56] so, that prooves that there are no good partners [09:56] thus no good marriages [09:57] missyjane, didn't say that. [09:57] right, even if i love the conversation about women, and how great they are... ;) i have to go... [09:57] then what did you say? [09:57] missyjane, plannin on gettin hitched myself. [09:57] bb to all the great women. [09:58] and what's wrong with the military? [09:58] and all the great slacker troubleshooters [09:58] alisonken1noc: lol, none [09:58] alisonken1noc, nothing lol im just saying the idiot joined the military instead of proposing marriage to me, rememeber how i talk about my ex? :) [09:58] why didn't he do both? [09:58] that's the idiot part [09:58] missyjane, I said something really insensitive about that hero-murderer thingy you posted... [09:58] maybe he realised his mistake... [09:58] Action: lf4 starts *dancing* Time to go home [09:58] cant, he spends all his time in military (he never left for many years) [09:58] |CtrlAltCa| (n=fabio@93.68.246.220) joined ##slackware. [09:59] well, I spent 21 years there :) [09:59] mtyfull (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-oojwukbpwnbmmvau) left ##slackware. [09:59] alisonken1noc, yeah but im not waiting 21 years married to a man i never see >:( [10:00] a newly married couple consists of a king, a queen and 2 slaves --devils dictionary [10:00] huge.s [10:00] tooly (n=tooly@e178154136.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [10:01] sorry wrong keyboard [10:06] i think im going mad [10:07] what would cause a no such file or dir error when trying to execute a binary with valid perms? [10:07] (its the APC Powerchute installer) [10:07] just gives a standard -bash error [10:07] invalid .so file ? [10:08] Action: Zordrak sd's [10:08] *ld [10:08] ldd [10:09] hmmmmm [10:09] not a dynamic executable [10:09] Zordrak: run a root or user? [10:09] root [10:09] or try "file ...." and see what kind of file it is [10:10] maybe it does a system("run_non_existing_file"); [10:10] Action: thrice` guesses 32-bit [10:10] elf 32bit executable [10:10] oh of COURSE [10:10] ffs [10:10] are you on slack64? [10:10] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-61-68-171-41.bur.connect.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:10] yeah.. first time ive come across this [10:10] didnt think [10:10] bad Zordrak [10:10] *sigh* [10:11] slamd64 used to have a compatibility layer... [10:11] and you forgot your compatibility libs [10:11] you could use that. [10:11] right.. wheres the bloody joobs for the whatsitmajigger [10:11] I dunno if Pat borrowed those. [10:11] slamd64 home has a slackware compatibility package [10:11] not slamd64 compatibility package [10:11] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:11] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-59-101-158-154.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [10:12] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:12] i really wish i knew why pat doesnt provide them [10:12] http://www.slackware.org.uk/slamd64/slackware64-current/ [10:12] because 32-bit is for sissies, run pure64 :> [10:12] yeah.. but theres always the crap you dont have the source for [10:12] Zordrak: fred's working with pat on the compat libraries [10:13] maybe thats whats holding him up [10:13] Zordrak: always? I don't have any cases :> [10:13] I'm guessing Pat will not provide 32-bit compat libs [10:13] no - current policy is to keep slackware compatibility libs on slamd64 server [10:13] ok serious question, when do you people actually use compression when tarring? [10:13] upgradepkg --install-new */* ? [10:13] all of the time [10:14] alisonken1noc: that is not a policy I'm aware of. [10:14] Zordrak: follow the readme on that one [10:14] missyjane: never without [10:14] alisonken1noc: doesnt cover.. will hawe to assume [10:14] the only time I don't use compression is for "tar -cf - ./ | tar -C -xf - [10:14] It happens to be the way /I/ do things /right now/, but it's not any kind of slackware policy [10:15] fred has spoken :) [10:15] fred: sup.. quick Q.. does the 3dm2 installer take forever to do anything for you? Takes me a whole afternoon to get through the install process [10:16] Zordrak, alisonken1noc but... compression = bad? why do you guys do it? only time i can imagine using compression is for quick transfer but for long term storage? o.o [10:16] no. [10:16] q: what is 3dm2 [10:16] missyjane: bits don't rot, and space is still at a premium on a lot of things [10:16] letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=3dm2 [10:16] or rather - space is still a concern [10:16] fred: hmm.. wish i could explain it... its fine on a rhel5 box.. but as soon as i run it on 13-rc2-64 it runs like a complete dog [10:16] alisonken1noc, eh, but.. data corruption, i do remember coming here and #hardware cause my cd/dvd borked and wouldnt read or uncompress [10:16] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@70-13-199-162.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [10:17] fred: thanks [10:17] even in cli mode [10:17] must be a java issue.. but it ships with its own JRE [10:17] missyjane: hardware issues will be with anything - even uncompressed [10:18] hm here is the thing, if you just archive it without compressing it, if data corruption happens, it would only be limited to that particular file or two, whereas if compressed, the entire damn thing wont open up let alone uncompress/untar [10:19] it's a tradeoff - do you want as much recoverability at the expense if increasing your hardware (storage) requirements, or archive with compression so you don't have to quadruple your storage space for backups? [10:19] ertjie (i=ertjie@196-209-170-152-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [10:19] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:19] ertjie kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Everybody is fed up with you troll [10:20] bah screw strorage, i can get 1tb for 50$-75$ [10:21] but you need something that can handle more than 4 drives even with 1T drives once you get to a certain storage need [10:21] xxjx (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/xxjx) joined ##slackware. [10:21] which means more hardware again [10:21] missyjane: the amount of space that can be saved makes it worth it [10:21] im jaded then, i lost too much stuff to compressed archives to trust it ever again [10:21] missyjane: just look at slack uncompressed vs tgz vs txz [10:22] ive NEVER had a corrupted tgz ever [10:22] missyjane: goes back to hardware issues [10:22] samuelig (n=samuelig@62.pool85-57-151.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. 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[10:23] I've had to duplicate a slackware cd I received because of a package that was corrupted - but that's been once in all of the times I've received them [10:23] yeah.. ive had corruption on cd [10:24] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:24] but i try not to burn cds anymore [10:25] yea me tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [10:25] bah screw rsync gimme a sec [10:25] and yes [10:25] *all* of my cd/dvd backups corrupted [10:25] never screw rsync... unless youre doing it nicely :) [10:26] i never managed to recover videos from dvds.. i do all my backups to HD now [10:26] screwing rcync is ok - just don't screw _with_ it :) [10:26] *video files, eg divx [10:26] lol @ cd/dvd as a backup media [10:27] its actually chepaer now to use USB flash [10:27] or at least the same [10:27] Zordrak, whats the biggest size for a usb flash? spook i never knew better at the time and i didnt take it serious when ive been told "dont compress and put it on a cd/dvd" alisonken1noc rofl [10:27] 2G last I heard - the 8G is still being worked on [10:28] missyjane: i have an 8G on my keys.. theres 16G i think [10:28] lol, theres 16gb usb [10:28] t0f (i=1000@wlk-barre-69-72-81-115.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) joined ##slackware. [10:28] Action: Zordrak kicks alisonken1noc into 2009 [10:28] i recall hearing about 32 [10:28] ok - shows how long it's been since I looked at thumbdrives [10:28] in sd cards, sdhc goes up to like 64gb [10:28] 8GB Kingston DataTraveller DT100 = £15 [10:28] too small [10:29] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:29] its about the same as a DL-DVD... [10:30] true thats why its too small [10:30] double sided, dual layer [10:30] heh .. play.com do a 16GB for £17.99 [10:30] 32GB from amazon £50 [10:31] £90-100 yor 64GB [10:31] etc [10:32] cheaper to get a 2.5" usb hdd [10:32] there are 3 128GB usb flashers in existance [10:32] Action: Zordrak goes back to kick alisonken1noc for being so much more out of date than he thought [10:33] Action: spook passes Zordrak a frozen eel [10:34] in 32bit linux, how many processes can you have before you run out of ids? [10:36] must be millions.. [10:36] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: [10:36] a grunch [10:37] hmmm, easiest way to find out... [10:39] hmmm [10:39] APC installer doesnt work even with the compat [10:39] Action: spook is writing a script in his head to find the answer [10:39] Zordrak: UPS? [10:39] yeah [10:39] wont run on 64? [10:39] works on x86 [10:40] yeah [10:40] spook: forkbomb? :P [10:40] its an UnZipSFX job [10:40] vdvluc: yeah but how to figure out what the pid of the last fork is [10:41] spook: hmm good question [10:41] current train of thought, echoing the pid to a file [10:41] hm... [10:42] yeah but can it do that while crashing? [10:42] vdvluc: well.. you'd probally want to fsync after every write... [10:42] spook: you said that like you had something to add.. [10:42] Zordrak: maybe a tiny install inside qemu? [10:43] something 'diskless' and compiled with uclibc [10:43] hoping to get it warking natively [10:43] i think its only the installer thats borked [10:44] Zordrak: decompile! [10:44] trying to figure the extraction options [10:45] --help gives all the modifiers.. just not what they do [10:45] man? [10:45] man what [10:46] Zordrak: if the installer is male, it obviously likes men [10:46] ... meaning its a distributed exec.. theres nothing to man [10:47] ooo [10:47] Action: Zordrak realises there is [10:49] mew mew, spook wins again [10:49] hmm [10:49] more complex than that [10:49] standard unzipsfx extraction is to just execute [10:49] this is more special [10:50] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [10:50] BOOM [10:50] unzip ftw [10:50] who the fuck uses zipsfx anymore lol :P [10:50] APC... obviously [10:50] Zordrak: was waiting for you to figure that out [10:51] FFS I HATE JAVA SO MUCH!! [10:51] join the club [10:51] its a goddamn java installer.. and the fail is in the java [10:51] exception in main class JExpressLoader [10:52] so, they are using zipsfx, wrapping a java installer, that doesnt work [10:52] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [10:52] who was it that was saying APC make good UPS? [10:52] Action: Zordrak sobs quietly -- it was so frigging simple [10:52] the installer REQUIRES X [10:53] Zordrak: hurr durr. you were doing this remotely? [10:53] no.. just no reason to be running X [10:53] t0f (i=1000@wlk-barre-69-72-81-115.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:54] why would you, it's a server [10:55] hehehe [10:55] damn i hate being capped [10:55] seems APC people are people who expect all servers to be RHEL permanently running gnome [10:55] my illegal downloading goes so much slower [10:55] i thought rhel leaned towards kde [10:55] whichever [10:56] i honestly dont know. 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[11:05] ffs.. a man file would be helpful [11:06] salman (n=salman@81.192.111.35) left irc: "Leaving" [11:07] its running.. but so what.. it doesnt do shit [11:07] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.95.117) joined ##slackware. [11:07] gar0t0_ (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [11:07] ewv746 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:07] Nick change: ewv746 -> lea912 [11:08] Nick change: gar0t0_ -> ghost [11:08] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:08] Nick change: ghost -> gar0t0_ [11:08] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [11:08] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [11:08] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:09] Nick change: gar0t0_ -> gar0t0 [11:10] dngr (n=dngr@n11649134204.netvigator.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:10] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:10] Zordrak: start running your own program [11:10] writing rather [11:10] Nick change: hiptobecubic^ -> hiptobecubic [11:10] plot thickens [11:10] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:11] requires /dev/ttyUSB* [11:11] urk [11:11] but hal (i think) supercedes [11:11] rk4n3 (n=rk4n3@71.39.203.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:11] rk4n3 (n=rk4n3@71.39.203.106) joined ##slackware. [11:11] /dev/usb/hiddev0 [11:11] br00tal0 (n=jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) joined ##slackware. [11:11] symlink? [11:12] plan! [11:12] br00tal0 (n=jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:13] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:13] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8995D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:13] meh.. i dont know if it wolrked or not... just doesnt blink [11:13] no manual to tell me what i should expect it to do [11:13] google time [11:13] missyjane, try 'kompare' you get a visual. [11:14] :O its a real program [11:14] kde has everything! :D [11:14] krap inkluded [11:15] -bash: krap: command not found [11:15] lol >< i thought you were serious [11:15] gnome people do not see quality if it bit them in the backside. [11:15] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [11:15] Action: Buggaboo lights the flame [11:16] gnome people? [11:16] Action: Buggaboo doesn't use gnome or kde btw... [11:16] I don't do gnome [11:16] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.26) joined ##slackware. [11:16] trolls taste good bbq'd [11:16] hihi [11:16] ahah [11:16] god damn webinterface [11:18] BP{k} (n=michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) left irc: Connection timed out [11:18] spaceplo_ (i=SpacePlo@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-cwuyozahzvxscdjx) left irc: "leaving" [11:19] Quiznos, are you around!?!?! [11:19] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:20] bah [11:20] I wonder what happened to enlightenment since compiz-fusion ate its lunch. [11:20] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:20] dive, figured out a problem on my own last night, pretty excited about not having to rely on this chat room :D [11:21] when i type konsole and hit enter too fast in kde4, sometimes kompare opens [11:21] woohoo to prodigal1. [11:21] prodigal1: woohoo you're not going to annoy me :) [11:21] prodigal1, oh? [11:21] Thank you, thank you! First of all I'd like to thank the Academy.. [11:22] dive, yea, Wireshark wouldnt install, kept giving me a cc1: memory error [11:22] I recall [11:22] turns out I'm just kind of a moron and didnt leave a swap partition [11:22] who needs swap nowadays. [11:23] so I made myself a swap file and everything worked out all good [11:23] Virtual Memory FTW [11:23] echo disk ? /sys/power/state ? [11:23] erm [11:23] echo disk > /sys/power/state ? [11:23] ah. good point. [11:23] I never use hibernate or sleep anyways... [11:23] never worked for me. [11:24] I never use anything else unless I need reboot a new kernel [11:24] thank christ for REAL serial ports [11:24] i usually add a gig of swapfile. [11:24] Zordrak: heh [11:24] I used tuxonice before but it just creates dead images for me. [11:24] I only allocated 512 megs [11:24] br00tal (n=jesse@host-177-156-2-96.midco.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:25] Zordrak, serial ports are nice. [11:25] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.117) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:26] Wish my source power was a liitle less than 250.5V(!) [11:26] huh? ups? [11:26] Buggaboo (n=Buggab00@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:28] has been mounted 414 times without being checked, check forced. [11:28] :O [11:28] dive: no the building main pwr [11:28] 250.5V [11:28] "missyjane has been mounted 414 times" [11:28] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:29] Camarade_Tux, you took the words right out of my mouth. [11:29] fsck forced ;-) [11:29] dive: look at missyjane's mouth : ":O", it's dilated :o [11:29] dive: lol :p [11:29] cmair (n=cmair@host56-111-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:29] bbiab [11:31] Action: missyjane whacks Camarade_Tux with a blunt spoon [11:31] Action: dive stabs Camarade_Tux with a spork [11:35] dive, wow, what does echo disk > /sys/power/state do? [11:35] dive, I just tried it out, screen went to nothing but a cursor for a few seconds [11:35] lol, I suppose I was supposed to put in my drive path in place of "disk" wasnt i? [11:35] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [11:35] shik4nt414 (n=shik4nt4@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [11:35] I wonder how hard/possible it would be to write something like sbopkg that doesn't use rsync? [11:35] Camarade_Tux, its not safe to mount without checking first [11:35] dive, I just tried it out, screen went to nothing but a cursor for a few seconds [11:35] prodigal1, that should hibernate your pc [11:35] dive, wow, what does echo disk > /sys/power/state do? [11:35] Riley (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:36] ahhhh gotcha [11:36] also echo mem > /sys/power/state is for suspend to ram [11:36] was i supposed to put the path of my HDD in where "disk" was? [11:36] prodigal1, [11:36] no [11:36] mmmkay [11:36] how much ram do you have? and how big is your swap partition? [11:37] Woot! the PXE server works! Time for bed. [11:37] for hibernate to work properly you need at least as much swap as ram [11:38] prodigal1, try cat /sys/power/state to see which options you have [11:38] mem and disk [11:38] ok [11:39] lf4, bed? but i just got up [11:40] sporks arent produced anymore [11:41] oh noooes [11:41] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl7-76-223.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:41] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@70-13-199-162.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:42] Quiznos, lies [11:42] i will not die [11:43] well i cant find em [11:43] kfc [11:43] go there [11:43] i dont freq there at all [11:43] i don't either [11:43] but they had sporks last time i was there [11:43] must be a trap of some kind [11:44] actually, its been like 3 years since the last time i went to kfc... [11:44] edman007: lol its 9:40am here I just got home from work. [11:44] http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/8ace/ [11:44] ultimate spork [11:45] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) joined ##slackware. [11:45] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) left irc: Client Quit [11:45] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) joined ##slackware. [11:46] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) left irc: Client Quit [11:47] yeah been around for at least 4-5 years now [11:47] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:48] ouch! [11:48] http://omploader.org/vMjZ3eg/bootchart.png [11:49] edman007: well, I have to admit I never check [11:50] snowdonkey (n=snowdonk@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:51] Camarade_Tux, mines about the same i think [11:51] ~30 secs [11:51] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-194-209.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:51] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [11:52] dive: that one sucks ! [11:52] look at the disk i/o! [11:52] hey guys, what access do i have to grant my non-root accounts in order to use a packet sniffer on my connections?? [11:52] I've never managed to get it down [11:52] i should try and see how fast i can get linux to boot... [11:52] but i just hate booting [11:52] such a bootchart is a shame for me! [11:53] I wonder why the gaps/low points in cpu/disk [11:53] prodigal1, umm...usually those things run as root, and most of the apps just start as root, open the nic and then drops privs [11:53] edman007, hibernate [11:53] dive: sleep? [11:53] prodigal1: The best thing to do is setup sudo for those tools. [11:53] Camarade_Tux, yeah I was wondering why the sleeps [11:53] :O OMG GUYS [11:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d83nmzlVk9E [11:54] dive, right now i run plenty of things that i need running like irc, pidgin, and mythbackend [11:54] dive: waiting for the disks iirc, it's written in the comments anyway [11:54] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:54] prodigal1: Trying to grant raw read priviledges on your NIC to mortal users is tricky and prone to buggy behavior. [11:54] and i don't like losing all my ssh connection [11:54] s [11:54] Alan_Hicks, how do I grant sudo access? [11:54] And most of those packet sniffers refuse to run unless you're root anyhow. [11:54] prodigal1: visudo [11:55] ugh 77% humidity fails [11:55] Necos_, i know [11:55] when i woke up everything just felt wet [11:55] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [11:55] it's hard to breathe... ;-; [11:56] http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=06785&MR=1 76% for me [11:56] what about you? [11:56] last i checked it was in the mid 70s [11:56] oddsock (n=oddsock@dynamic-250-205-23-217.broadband.blic.net) joined ##slackware. [11:57] what zip [11:57] 90019 [11:58] http://www.anime-planet.com/users/Necos <--- lol [11:58] oh, thats nothing, you have 75% 70'F, i have 76% and 85'F [11:58] cmair (n=cmair@host56-111-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:58] lol [11:59] missyjane, so...you're the old lady? [11:59] wow... lol [12:00] Action: missyjane roars and kills edman007 [12:00] BURN EVERYBODY BURN [12:00] :( [12:00] even me? ='( [12:00] especially you [12:00] Action: Necos_ holds a funeral [12:01] Action: spook hogties missyjane [12:01] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [12:01] ='( [12:01] heh [12:01] Action: dive spontaneously combusts [12:02] no one is taking you alive? :P [12:02] i love shoot-em-up movies [12:02] lol esp when it comes to god [12:02] light up, light up, as if you had a choice [12:02] district 9 is good :) [12:03] haha are you guys talking about the movie Legion? [12:03] yes :D [12:03] yeah [12:03] Legion looks like its going to be uber entertaining [12:03] district 9 is good. especially the accents [12:03] im gonna look up district 9 now [12:03] almost like a heaven/hell type Evil Dead [12:03] first time ive ever seen god as bad guy [12:04] District 9 rocked my socks so hard [12:04] I've been barefoot ever since [12:04] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl7-76-223.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:04] missyjane, well if you read the bible, god is the bad guy [12:04] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [12:04] ewww, dirty feet bastid [12:04] not dirty, maybe stinky [12:05] gravel is dirty [12:05] edman007, if you look at any situation involving anything other than one person kneeling at their bedisde, god is usually the bad guy [12:05] well I have shoes! [12:05] lol [12:05] edman007, i have [12:05] god is the good guy in the bible, i read the whole bible when i was little [12:06] prodigal1, god is imaginary. People are the problem. [12:06] a lot of things are taken out of context and this is coming from an atheist (me) [12:06] dive, touche [12:06] lol [12:06] looks like district 9 is out [12:06] MUST WATCH NOW [12:06] naw missyjane, I've read the bible, never been a believer [12:06] missyjane, what makes you think he is the good guy? does he go around protecting people from death? no, he goes around telling people that if you don't listen to him your going to die [12:06] prodigal1, same, but god is the good guy though [12:06] lol [12:07] missyjane, maybe in the newer testaments [12:07] edman007, no, actually there is an entry on why god doesnt interfere as time goes by [12:07] missyjane, even then, not so much [12:07] thta's called being antagonistic... sadistic even... doesn't necessarily mean he's evil [12:07] most religions do that, and that is why religion flies you into buildings... [12:07] prodigal1, no, the newer testament he officially becomes "nice guy" [12:07] edman007: its the 3 evils problem. [12:07] heres the thing, guns dont kill people, people do [12:07] im gonna put it the same way here, god doesnt kill people, people still do [12:07] lol [12:07] god is all good, all knowing, all powerful. pick two [12:08] shik4nt414 (n=shik4nt4@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [12:08] hey, charles dutton is in legion lol [12:08] why does slackware use 'fc-cache -f' and not just 'fc-cache' ? why unvalidate the cache and force recreation ? [12:08] lol [12:08] heh im an atheist dont worry, im just saying, god is the good guy in the bible, you seriously can NOT (and i emphasize this) take the quotes out of context [12:08] Camarade_Tux: fsck? [12:08] god is mean [12:08] Camarade_Tux, change it then [12:08] too many times atheists do that, this is why i respect darwin, he doesnt do that, he talks about god from a scientific pov whereas most atheist talk about god sing the bble itself (taking quotes out of context means logical fallacies) [12:08] missyjane, he's a nasty, violent, irrational, jealous and vicious and, furthermore, hates women, homosexuals, onanists and, well, just about anybody who is not one of his male worshippers [12:08] missyjane: religion zealots sure seem to take it out of context [12:09] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-211-178.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:09] dive: gonna do that but I'd like not to have to change it everytime rc.M changes in slackware [12:09] missyjane, and thats a Darwin quote! [12:09] spook lol thats the point, god has a lot to teach us like i learned how to turn salt water into fresh water, i learned a lot from the bible [12:09] prodigal1: or so the people who are doing his so called will would ahve you believe [12:09] Camarade_Tux, true. [12:09] prodigal1, heh :) for marketing reasons, hes an anti-christ, which i have no problem with but darwin has admitted this jesus christ figure himself is a good person but not the followers [12:09] missyjane, spook reminds me of http://richardathome.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/epicurus-quote.jpg [12:09] "i like your christ, i dont like your christian" comes to mind [12:09] no no no [12:10] i love that quote [12:10] that quote above is from Darwin [12:10] Camarade_Tux, I think it's probably a good idea to -f anyway. A few times I've installed fonts and they didn't get picked up without -f. [12:10] about the original testament of god [12:10] if anything, i believe in einsteins god (which isnt really a god), the spinozas god which states that if there is a god it doesnt care about petty human crap [12:10] oh shit! [12:10] macro (n=macro@bas2-montreal19-1177749799.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:10] prodigal1, i know, and i just told you, darwin respects the jesus christ figure but does not respect christianity as a religion [12:10] this old lady just bit the shit out of some guy in a diner [12:10] stig (n=stig@cpc2-tref4-2-0-cust399.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:10] how in about 1000 years did people suddenly go "Oh wait! Gods not like THAT anymore, he's like THIS!" [12:10] Necos_, exactly, exciting movie [12:10] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [12:10] takes 2 seconds here while it takes 12 seconds (!) at boot (ok, there's the ram cache now but without -f it doesn't take more time) [12:10] Good day to everyone. [12:10] sorta destroys the entire credibility [12:11] TGIF! [12:11] v4nelle (n=van@78-115-11.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:11] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) left ##slackware. [12:11] prodigal1, um dont take things out of context is all i c an tell you right now, a lot of peopel are guilty of it [12:11] Camarade_Tux, hence the '&' [12:11] hmmmm, I don't even install fonts [12:11] dive: but it hammers down my cpu [12:11] s/cpu/disk/ [12:11] Camarade_Tux: stick "nice" in front of it? [12:11] and I don't even have all the fonts installed [12:11] Camarade_Tux, you can comment it out and just run manually. [12:11] missyjane: this moving is gonna rock somethin hard [12:11] nice fc-cache & [12:12] i learned to tell time from the sun, i learned to make water, i learned to do many things from the bible, it has a lot of good lessons, just dont it out of context and i can debate or talk about this, this is why i said earlier that darwin is unbeatable because he doesnt use the bibel, he doesnt have to, he uses science [12:12] Necos_, haha yeah im gonna watch district 9 to see how it goes [12:12] lets go to offtopic [12:12] Urchlay: actually the fix is going to be: chmod -x /usr/bin/fc-cache [12:12] Camarade_Tux: that works too if you have no possible use for it [12:12] i hate ssh lag lol [12:12] *movie [12:12] missyjane, I understand, and usually I do not participate in these convorsations because I believe everyone is entitled to believe whatever they want. I just recently read God Delusion so I'm throwing my own hellfire and brimstone ;) [12:12] stig_ (n=stig@cpc2-tref4-2-0-cust399.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:12] Camarade_Tux, I was also wondring about the gtk/gdk stuff too. [12:13] now if only i can get that wine from water thing worked out.. [12:13] missyjane, you're going to effing LOVE District 9 [12:13] SiegeX: ^5 :) [12:13] missyjane, it's my new bible [12:13] prodigal1, hehe i cant wait [12:13] :P [12:13] Camarade_Tux, I know that's been backgorunded but still uses a lot of disk [12:13] SiegeX: once you get that part figured out, try upgrading it, learn to turn water into scotch or vodka :) [12:13] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [12:13] whats the channel name again for offtopic? [12:13] upgradepkg water-to-booze [12:14] dive: I have the bootchart right in front of me and gtk-update-icon-cache and update-mime-database take a lot of io too [12:14] SiegeX: ask Elric brothers :P [12:14] i can then open up club 'Immaculate' [12:14] SiegeX: actually, would it work with any fluid? and could you turn it into any other fluid? [12:14] but update-gtk-immodules, gtk-query-immodules, update-gtk-pixbuf, gdk-pixbuf-query which have been added last month don't use a lot at all [12:14] turn used motor oil into fresh, *that* would be genuinely useful [12:14] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [12:14] Camarade_Tux, I just checked my rc.M and I already have all that stuff commented out :| [12:15] you know how stupid mainstream religion is? [12:15] Nick change: Necos_ -> Necos [12:15] dive: running bootchart? [12:15] Necos: as stupid as mainstream anything else (music, TV shows, etc) [12:15] Camarade_Tux, nah cba [12:16] Necos, so dumb that they think we can get closer to our creator by eating the flesh and drinking the blood of his bastard son? [12:16] dive: well, it helps a lot [12:16] i went to my friend's mom's funeral, and the fuckin catholic priest was talking about DaVinci Code [12:16] Camarade_Tux, but I have timed it at around 25-30 secs [12:16] mmmm, ritual cannibalism [12:16] Shaman286 (n=lucas@189.71.96.31) joined ##slackware. [12:16] Necos: what did he say about it? [12:16] re [12:16] lol taking things out of context :( or literal [12:16] this was in '05, mind ya [12:16] Urchlay, :O Xtians are Cannibals!!! RUN FOR THE HILLS! [12:16] right after the movie came out [12:17] but yeah, my friend's mom died and this dipshit was preaching about a fucking movie [12:17] shoulda halted his speech [12:17] Necos, did he say that it was just something created by god to test our faith, like fossils and intelligent thought? [12:17] if my friend wasn't catholic, i'd have punched this fucktard in the face [12:17] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) joined ##slackware. [12:18] religion sucks, period [12:18] haha missyjane must just be pulling her hair out right now [12:18] prodigal1: no, he was trying to defend the catholic church and say this and that about how none of it was true [12:18] dive: bootchart is a must to make your computer boot faster :) [12:18] not really prodigal1 im looking for movie tickets [12:18] missyjane either side of the fence pls; not on it. [12:18] linXea (n=esb@81.233.227.253) left irc: "Lämnar" [12:18] LOL it was a damn work of fiction. Only fanatics took it seriously [12:18] Camarade_Tux, I always hibernate though except for kernel reboots [12:18] dive: I can also give you a bootchart package (it's arch independant) [12:18] bute works of fiction can reveal truth [12:18] I update the kernel too often :p [12:19] (plus I halt often, laptop) [12:19] NyteOwl: my point being is: it had no place for preaching at a damn funeral [12:19] Camarade_Tux, ok I can check it out I guess [12:19] >.> [12:19] Necos, when it comes to a Hollywood movie and an ancient religious doctrine.... it'd take me a while to figure wich I believe [12:19] Necos: actually some of it was true - like all good fiction. Just not the parts some people thought might be :) [12:19] yay no longer capped [12:19] <3 peak/off-peak [12:19] _The Wizard of Oz_ wasnt just a movie about a girl and her dog in a dream. [12:19] the da vinci code stuff was based on something that's supposed to have been thoroughly debunked [12:19] Necos: oh I agree - totally inappropriate [12:19] hey guys lets go to ##slackofftopic [12:19] Quiznos, I got wireshark installed!! The swap file ended up working [12:19] all the weirdness about the priory of sion [12:20] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za expired. [12:20] prodigal1 vgood [12:20] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*-wbs-esr-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:20] or the jehova witnesses showing up at my door on saturday morning at 6am asking me if i wanna be saved... [12:20] NO BITCHES I WANT TO SLEEP! [12:20] haha after driving you crazy last night ;) [12:20] Necos 6am? damn [12:20] ok, gonna see the speedup, be back in five minutes :) [12:20] Necos: they don't come here anymore :) [12:20] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [12:20] Camarade_Tux, got a link to it? [12:20] Necos: I got rid of them by answering the door with no shirt, a knife behind my back, and telling them I'm running late for a black mass... then going "Oh, hey, is either of you a virgin?" [12:20] Necos, man! Always screen the front door! When its witnesses, take the opportunity of flexing your rights and answering the door naked [12:20] dive: for what ? my package or ... ? [12:20] they've stopped coming since i answered the door with boken in hand [12:20] macro (n=macro@bas2-montreal19-1177749799.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:20] yeah boot thingy [12:21] i make a habit of answer the door naked [12:21] Camarade_Tux, or can you dcc it me? [12:21] spook just answers the door drunk, i bet... [12:21] dive: btw, there is a slackbuild on sbo but it needs ant (for which there is a slackbuild too) [12:21] if dcc fails, i can host on ftp/http [12:21] dive: sure, just a sec [12:21] Necos: sif not with three sectional staff [12:21] ugh, ant [12:21] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Client Quit [12:21] Camarade_Tux, ok I will install from SBo [12:21] "Sorry for being naked, I'm just on my way downstairs to a Pagan ceremony I'm conducting with my neighbour's cat and dog [12:21] " [12:22] oh, and it requires the JDK and that's the most annoying one :D [12:22] ugh [12:22] ugh, java [12:22] blech [12:22] dcc working? [12:22] your computer is too fast, better weigh it down with a useless layer of virtual machine emulation [12:22] yeah :) [12:22] dive: want my package? :D [12:22] ewww [12:22] Quiznos, lol i can sit my ass on the fence, im not going to stand for an atheist when i see him clearly being intellectually dishonest but im also not going to stand for religious wrong-doing either [12:23] Camarade_Tux, nah I will try SBo first [12:23] later.. [12:23] missyjane fine fine fine; but no pretending to be standing where you arent :) [12:23] missyjane: you go ahead and sit on the fence... i'll get a camera :) [12:23] cba right now [12:23] I bet answering the door with a .45 on your hip would discourage them too :) (of course only if you're licenced) [12:23] cba? [12:23] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [12:23] Quiznos, 'can't be arsed' [12:23] ah [12:23] dcc worked? [12:23] NyteOwl: well if you're naked, then you arent concealing [12:23] Quiznos, who me? [12:23] i guess [12:24] lol whats wrong with sitting on the fenece? :D [12:24] Quiznos, are you dccing me something? [12:24] it's not showing here [12:24] spook: most places if you can be seen from outside the house, you know it and still parade bare butt you can be charged [12:24] dive you to Camarade_Tux [12:24] missyjane: nothing, that's why i'm getting the camera :) [12:24] anyway, it's here: http://pers.yaxm.org/bootchart.tgz [12:24] silly I know but the law is often an ass [12:24] missyjane no jollies on fense sitting pls [12:24] Quiznos, no he's not dcc.ing. I'm going to grab the slackbuild. [12:24] let's pretend to be a-dults [12:24] if you are on 64bit, edit /usr/bin/bootchart and replace 'lib' with 'lib64' [12:24] NyteOwl: probally not in any sane country :P [12:24] dive ah kk [12:25] Quiznos: who told you that lie? [12:25] what lie? where? [12:25] Action: Quiznos looks around [12:25] spook: you're right Canada, the US and te UK are not sane countrries [12:25] or http://pers.yaxm.org/bootchart.tgz :) [12:25] brb :) [12:25] Be alert. This country needs lerts. [12:25] what's bootchart? [12:25] see bootchart.org :) [12:26] Quiznos: better question. what ISNT bootchart [12:26] k [12:26] duno [12:26] Necos, im confused, whats the camera mean? Quiznos lol you dont get it, atheists are known as militant for a reason, and theists are considered evil for a reason [12:26] die die die! see www.bootchart.org [12:26] Quiznos, e.g. http://omploader.org/vMjZ3eg/bootchart.png [12:26] NyteOwl: except maybe for canada, no they arent sane countries [12:26] fuckin *www.* [12:26] militant atheists? anyone who makes a religion out of atheism is being silly [12:26] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [12:26] no ans from .org [12:26] spook: we aren't sane either heh [12:26] www.boot* [12:26] could someone, please, aid me in testing my internet connection? it's very lazy, laggy and netsplitty and i want to be 100% sure that is not a local issue befor killing the ISP [12:27] ok seen. [12:27] missyjane: ummm... ahem! i'm below you with a camera :) [12:27] Urchlay, you would be very very surprised, atheists that say "NO MORAL, we dont need any, we just do what we want" etc [12:27] bfd :) [12:27] Necos, oh >< shoo [12:27] Keiffer: are you still doing this shit? [12:27] Keiffer: speedtest.net [12:27] Keiffer, 'netsplitty'? [12:27] hahahahahaha [12:27] lol [12:28] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:28] spook, what server should i use? [12:28] Keiffer, run a few speedtests. Try downloading something large from a ftp. Do some ping tests. Traceroutes. [12:28] I use to know a site that would make connections for people like VNC but you didn't need to install anything. Anyone know what I am talking about? [12:29] not off hand [12:29] Keiffer: I DONT CARE CAN YOU WORK THINGS OUT FOR YOURSELF GEEZ [12:29] Keiffer, http://www.speedtest.net/ [12:29] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-119-8.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:29] dive, ping wont even work [12:29] ping Keiffer [12:29] Keiffer iptables dropage? [12:29] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A73D6A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:29] Keiffer 22 secs [12:29] CTCP PING reply from Keiffer: 22.029 seconds [12:29] wth are you? [12:30] on mars? [12:30] lol [12:30] Keiffer, /ping me [12:30] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:30] Keiffer immediate ans on ctcp ping [12:30] irc clients are horrible for doing ping [12:30] spook try ctcp ping [12:31] irc server lag makes for 22s lag [12:31] Florida server responded: 321 ms, 2 mbps down, 0.2 mbps up [12:31] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-211-178.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:31] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [12:31] .2 up? damn [12:31] isp is choking you [12:31] Action: dive calculates. Fails. [12:31] 200k? [12:31] Tyrael (n=tyrael@c2224.upc-c.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:32] /ctcp foad [12:32] .2*1024*1024 [12:32] sounds about right for 2mb [12:32] i can always do arp shit on the lan again [12:32] tenth of a meg [12:32] !100k [12:32] ~100k [12:32] right [12:32] wait [12:32] no [12:32] --- cia.gov ping statistics ---49 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 48246ms [12:32] 200 [12:32] mintee (i=1000@72-165-177-67.dia.static.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [12:32] 1,024,000/10 [12:33] Keiffer, you're pinging cia.gov?? [12:33] why ping cia? [12:33] 1024,00 [12:33] lol [12:33] ping google.com [12:33] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:33] dive yea, ~100k [12:33] better yet, traceroute [12:33] Keiffer, cia have probably got you tapped right now [12:33] damn that's a small pipe [12:33] Quiznos, there is no way that .2 = 1 anything ;-) [12:34] Keiffer where are you and who's your isp [12:34] dive oh; it's that "fancy" math [12:34] .2 = 1 for small values of 1 [12:34] lol [12:34] query of opinions here guys, if I'm going to be making a linux based media server for my house, whats the smartest distro to go for? and approx. how fast of a computer is good for a media server [12:34] boot is 3s faster [12:34] .2Mbs == tenth of 512k [12:34] I'm sure they did... [12:34] 51k? [12:34] prodigal1: slackware. using mythtv. [12:34] spook, yea? [12:34] I am in eastern europe [12:34] Camarade_Tux, come back when boot = 15 secs [12:35] spook, I was thinking SuSE [12:35] everything worked fine 2 days ago [12:35] prodigal1: if you want hd movies, you'll need like a dualcore 2ghz cpu [12:35] dive: bah, I had 6 secs last year [12:35] ping google.com -> PING google.com (74.125.45.100) 56(84) bytes of data. [12:35] prodigal1: theres the door. get out of this channel [12:35] it freezes this way until CTRL-C [12:35] Keiffer, then ping an eastern europe server [12:35] Rush chatted with WilliamShatner yesterday; to be aired when ready. [12:35] spook, just for streaming I would need that fast of a CPU? [12:35] ^C--- google.com ping statistics ---81 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 80433ms [12:35] Keiffer, http://www.speedtest.net/ [12:36] prodigal1: no, for playing high def movies [12:36] oh you did that [12:36] tried several. same thing [12:36] ok time to unload this.. [12:36] spook, I'm just looking to stream them to the other computers and PS3 in my house [12:36] spook, music and video, and yes HD video for my PS3 and personal laptop [12:36] prodigal1: dont use wireless. [12:37] well the PS3 is wired [12:37] i guess the wireless bitrate wouldnt be good enough for streaming HD hmm? [12:37] why isn't ping working?? [12:37] ps3 has both. wii has wireless, 360 is wired only [12:37] Keiffer, router? firewall? [12:37] Keiffer: because i hate you. [12:38] spook, good thing I didnt go out and buy a new Wireless Router for the occasion [12:38] see you later everyone [12:38] Distance to server, 150 miles. Down: 1.98 mbps, UP: 0.2 Mbps [12:38] I've used a K6-II 500 for a streaming audio server [12:38] so adsl 1 [12:38] spook why do you hate me? [12:38] because you're an easy target? [12:39] Keiffer, do you have a firewall? [12:39] If you're not playing the stuff on the server it doesn't need that much horsepower [12:39] because you dont try to work anything out for yourself. [12:39] no rooter, iptables but i didn't modified anything to it [12:39] maybe someone is rooting me? [12:39] Action: quasar is. [12:39] Keiffer, iptables -L [12:39] dive, yes, firestarter [12:39] Keiffer: quick shut down your computer before they steal your identity [12:39] I oftern wondered if the Roto Rooter man was a black hat, white had or a grey hat? [12:40] i don't know HOW [12:40] Keiffer, type iptables -L in a console and http://pastebin.slackadelic.com it [12:40] hmmm, it shoulnd't run gtk-update-icon-cache [12:41] does anyone here have asthma? :( [12:41] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.164.231.193) joined ##slackware. [12:41] my brother had [12:41] ACCEPT tcp -- resolver1.opendns.com anywhere tcp flags:!FIN,SYN,RST,ACK/SYN [12:42] Keiffer: use a pastebin you expletive [12:42] dive, it's still processing [12:42] Keiffer, put the _full_ output here: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com [12:42] die [12:42] Keiffer, then it's fskced it it takes that long [12:42] Keiffer: you first [12:43] Keiffer: if its taking too long you' [12:43] re being rooted and should unplug your internet [12:43] missyjane why? [12:44] john_dee (n=id@93-81-71-163.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:44] spook, dude, i am not in the mood [12:44] http://pastebin.org/10892 [12:44] NyteOwl: He's a Brown Hat. [12:45] hahahaha [12:45] Keiffer: you're not in the mood to have us help you? fine then continue to ignore our help and ask stupid questions [12:46] hi Alan_Hicks [12:46] you help me? you're just standing there making fun of me [12:46] you suck Keiffer :) [12:46] Alan_Hicks: :) [12:47] Action: quasar looks at line 10 then at Keiffer [12:47] Keiffer: So what exactly is the problem? You're not able to ping google? [12:47] ? [12:47] Action: dive looks at line 32 [12:47] is google alive? [12:47] quasar, thats for extra security [12:47] yes [12:47] quasar, lolo i just noticed that too [12:47] Quiznos: yes [12:47] Keiffer: making fun of your lack of intelligence and failure to follow directions [12:47] ok [12:48] quasar,line 10... [12:48] dive: hahahha just looked [12:48] hahahaha [12:48] GHAHAHAHAHA [12:49] dive, what does that line mean? [12:49] what sso funny spook? [12:49] spook. missyjane, did i come and say something to you? if not, be silent please [12:49] Action: slackytude aint hip on iptables [12:49] Keiffer, I would get rid of firestarter or at least do a lot of reading about how iptables/netfilter work and then reconfigure it [12:49] Keiffer: thanks for that, you havent made me laugh in a long time [12:49] Yeah, that firewall is some kind of serious stupid. [12:49] Keiffer, no, because you were mean to me before, now nobody wants to help you because your personality sucks [12:49] slackytude -L to list; -F flush [12:49] that's all you neex. [12:49] slackytude, it means everything outward is dropped [12:49] dive, heh [12:50] how does that make sense that he's here though, with that being the default policy and no further rules? [12:50] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:50] FOR ALL YOU WHO ARENT HIP ON IPTABLES. his rule set doesnt allow anything outgoing. he defines a bunch of stuff in white list fashion for input, then just allows everything anyway [12:50] quasar, good question [12:51] that's what I'm stuck on.. other than the -j ACCEPT on all lol [12:51] spook: I know. Very stupid. :-) [12:51] spook: must allow soemthing outgoing or s/he wouldn't be here :) [12:51] maybe the paste isnt completed [12:51] everything below line 10 for the input never gets used [12:51] complet [12:52] and yeah hes missing the title of the input chain. [12:52] and probally another line at the end. [12:52] well the first line is mssing so who knows what else is [12:52] yes, it's not completed [12:52] whose got the messed iptab list? [12:52] Keiffer: iptables -F [12:52] rules? [12:52] Keiffer, you may as well turn it off for all the good it's doing [12:52] Keiffer: congratulations on your continued failure to help yourself [12:52] Then go read http://www.lizella.net/networking_101.txt [12:53] usb_wifi_dongle (n=usb_wifi@34.Red-83-55-44.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:53] Alan_Hicks, his english sucks, he is from another country [12:53] Then go google for iptables tutorials and read them. [12:53] romania, iirc [12:53] Ah... problematic then. [12:53] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [12:53] he also isnt a nice person [12:53] he talked about hacking other peopes computer [12:53] peoples [12:53] Greetings everyone. :) [12:53] hihi [12:53] thats a harsh thing to say about your husband [12:53] hi fire|bird [12:53] hi fire|bird [12:53] hi fire|bird [12:53] hi missyjane [12:53] hey dive [12:53] slackytude, hes not my husband and i dont like that joke at all [12:54] y0 slackytude [12:54] missyjane, heh, alright, I guess its getting old anyway [12:54] missyjane you could do worse [12:54] hi i|hate|piped|nicks [12:54] hey Quiznos [12:54] missyjane: Right. He *talked* about it. Given his inability to configure his firewall using a script, I doubt he's even script-kiddie status. [12:54] Hi spook [12:54] haha [12:54] What's lower than script-kiddie? [12:54] MCSE? [12:54] Luser [12:54] Alan_Hicks, i think people remember him talking about it, hes a script kiddie [12:54] script-tard [12:54] Alan_Hicks, haha, nice [12:54] no-script kidde [12:54] level-0 on 5-grade scale. [12:55] level-3 is User. [12:55] heh [12:55] then Geek, Guru. [12:55] so he's -1 or -0 [12:55] grazymax_ (n=grazymax@host187-131-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:55] lol [12:55] Quiznos: i guess that makes me a level-6 [12:55] wow, missyjane.. i really did that? i really talked about that?? bad me.. you suck more then i do [12:55] I think he must have gone to one of those new-fangled schools where they just give you a P for Pass or an F for Fail, but his report card had OMG written on it. [12:55] usb_wifi_dongle (n=usb_wifi@128.Red-83-63-136.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [12:55] nop, 5 max [12:55] http://pastebin.org/10895 [12:56] chris2_ (n=chris@dslb-094-216-076-116.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] 10 print "I will haxx0r j00" [12:56] 20 goto 10 [12:56] hi all [12:56] what level is that? [12:56] -2 [12:56] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [12:56] Keiffer, maybe i suck, but people enjoy that i suck, on the other hand, youre just pathetic, you were not nice to me in pm when i attempted to talk to you and be nice and you went on to brag how you took down a network [12:56] lol [12:56] Keiffer: you're still missing the first line [12:56] SiegeX shoulda used pascal to get a oneliner [12:56] lol [12:56] phear the basic kiddie [12:56] line 42 [12:56] thats a great set of rules [12:57] someone noobfarm is somehow [12:57] missyjane: He did actually take down that network, btw. [12:57] to educate generations yet to come [12:57] Alan, who did? [12:57] missyjane: :P [12:57] Noobfarm is ahead of its time in educational aspects. [12:57] missyjane: It was a failure to "Call before you dig." [12:57] lol [12:57] Action: Alan_Hicks is on a roll today! [12:57] it's not me. i didnt' set that up [12:57] what happened to his INPUT policy? [12:58] Keiffer: was that a script that you downloaded somewhere or did you make that? [12:58] Alan_Hicks missyjane lives in a concret jungle, there is no digging by privates [12:58] grazymax (n=grazymax@79.23.134.112) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:58] Action: Alan_Hicks thanks God that straterra isn't around to hear that. [12:58] lol [12:58] missyjane, i am sure i will burn in hell for what i did. meanwhile please don't intervene [12:58] ... [12:58] for all we know, line 42 could be redundant if his INPUT policy is ACCEPT as well [12:59] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-124-195.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [12:59] SiegeX, it is [12:59] SiegeX: line 10 [12:59] Keiffer: Ok, here's the best advice you will *ever* get on this problem. [12:59] quasar: right, line 10 for INPUT [12:59] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-124-195.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [12:59] quasar, no scrips. i also didn't use any lines from the net. i just use firestarter [13:00] Keiffer: Ditch your firewall entirely. Go read up on netfiler/iptables. Write your own from scratch. [13:00] ditch firestarter [13:00] ditch firestarter [13:00] http://pastebin.org/10900 << i condensed the ruleset to what will actually ever be used [13:00] ditch firestarter [13:00] Keiffer: join #netfilter , go read the topic links [13:01] Alan_Hicks, ok. thanks. [13:01] Keiffer: if you promise to be nicer i'll write you a pretty ruleset. [13:01] So, this is the problem? this causes the slow connection? [13:02] Keiffer: probally doesnt help. [13:02] bbl [13:02] can someone please point me in the right direction for reading up on the kernel update released by slackware-security [13:02] Keiffer, its suprising you get a connection at all [13:02] LongeFlucht: the cve it links to? [13:02] LongeFlucht: check the changelog for a brief summary, or the CVE to which it links [13:02] Keiffer, your firewall is the worst I've ever seen. Uninstall it. iptables -F [13:03] not the CVE...I am aware of the vulnerability; I used it to root my android [13:03] just the steps/procedures for properly patching [13:03] spook, what do you mean by nicer? have i insulted you or missyjane? [13:04] i reduced it further, http://pastebin.org/10902 [13:04] chris2 (n=chris@dslb-094-216-076-116.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Connection timed out [13:04] Action: quasar stabs pastebin. [13:05] yeah god damn ads [13:05] LongeFlucht, join the security mailing lis. [13:05] prodigal1 (n=superdud@dynamic-216-211-51-59.tbaytel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:05] Keiffer: sorry offer has expired because you have no social skills [13:05] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC30676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [13:05] spook, couldnt you reduce it to two lines that just acceppt all? [13:05] yep [13:05] dive: I am on it and received the e-mail, but the README it references I don't have [13:06] slackytude: no because stuff actually does get caught [13:06] hmm [13:06] manageed to remove a few things from boot without touching any file in rc.M :) [13:06] means easier update [13:06] s [13:06] and being pretty new (and very pleased with my current build), I don't want to jack it to hell [13:06] he might as well just set all his default policies to ACCEPT and not have any rules [13:06] spook, like? [13:06] slackytude: oh wait, yeah, the input chain is just ACCEPT all [13:07] kinda drunk/tired/depressed/raging [13:07] spook, the usual [13:07] oh and output too [13:07] heh ^-^ [13:07] now i remember why i luahged so hard earlier [13:07] lol [13:07] Shaman286 (n=lucas@189.71.96.31) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:08] my brain's iptables parser overloaded on lols [13:08] LongeFlucht, ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-12.2/patches/packages/linux-2.6.27.31/README [13:08] i had a REALLY good kebab last night [13:08] only $8 [13:09] JackBauer (n=mIRCuser@193.239.140.184) joined ##slackware. [13:09] if you could somehow combine nandos with a that kebab you would have the holy grail of people suffering munchies [13:09] another reboot [13:09] flushing made the connection faster, thank you guys [13:10] dive: thanks a ton, man...any order in which the three packages need to be installed? [13:10] what's nandos [13:10] LongeFlucht, not sure. I just fixed mine manually. [13:10] jeev: the best chicken fast food in the universe [13:10] it's australian ? [13:10] JackBauer: fuck you and the bands you like [13:10] jeev: google. [13:11] no, you google for me [13:11] its owned by google. [13:11] yfgfm [13:11] google fast food [13:11] |CtrlAltCa| (n=fabio@93.68.246.220) left irc: "byez" [13:11] dive: any advantage to doing it manually over the packages? [13:11] hm whats a good gif viewer? [13:11] spook, you really have a problem with me? [13:12] Nick change: JackBauer -> Kieffer [13:12] JackBauer, yes i do, you suck compared to snake [13:12] lol [13:12] Kieffer is even worse [13:12] oddsock (n=oddsock@dynamic-250-205-23-217.broadband.blic.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:13] Maybe you are better. [13:13] i am, by far [13:13] :D [13:13] depends on the Kieffer, lost boys kieffer, stand by me kieffer... [13:13] jeev: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=v5X&q=nandos+in+foot+pounds+per+library+of+congress&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi= [13:13] LongeFlucht, I have a custom compiled kernel, so installing a package wouldn't have helped me. I edited the mmap setting in .config, rebuilt, then untarred the kernel package and read the doinstall and other stuff. [13:14] prodigal1 (n=superdud@dynamic-216-211-70-17.tbaytel.net) joined ##slackware. [13:14] and installed the files/settings manually [13:14] jeev: nandos.com [13:14] cool...haven't ventured into building my own kernel yet [13:14] learning curve is somewhat steep [13:14] weak [13:14] LongeFlucht, I don't think it matters which order you install the packages. [13:14] holy **** gparted is amazing [13:14] the help on here is awesome though [13:14] missyjane: with gif animation? [13:15] Camarade_Tux, yep, gonna install gwenview [13:15] good to you missyjane. [13:15] dive: didn't have to compile the kernel for that, putting 'vm.mmap_min_addr = 4096' in your /etc/sysctl.conf would have done the same [13:15] jeev: have you eaten it? [13:15] SiegeX, oh right. Oh well. [13:15] y0 Camarade_Tux [13:15] no [13:15] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:16] jeev: THEN STFU IT IS THE BEST CHICKEN MUNCHIES EVER [13:16] I wonder if mplayer can play animated gifs :p [13:16] yoyo fire|bird :) [13:16] lol [13:16] it probably can but that would be overkill, takes tons of resource to play a small file measured in kb [13:16] Camarade_Tux, with -vo caca would be good [13:16] fire|bird: trying again to make the computer boot faster and so far I managed not to change anything in rc.M which means easier upgrade :) [13:17] Camarade_Tux: cool, what do you have it at now, time wise? [13:17] dive: :D [13:17] dive: does it matter that the packages are for 2.6.27.31 when my uname -r gives 2.6.27.7 [13:18] fire|bird: hasn't improved much yet because it will need updates to init scripts too =/ [13:18] ltbpdraft (n=ltbplinu@187.36.70.146) joined ##slackware. [13:18] hi [13:19] hello ltbpdraft [13:19] i'm testing the irssi [13:19] Camarade_Tux: haha, well, get it to under 10 seconds. :P [13:19] i'm the same ltbplinux :) [13:20] Kieffer: dont pm people without permission [13:20] LongeFlucht, shouldn't do. [13:20] LongeFlucht, just remember to check /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo after. [13:20] spook, don't insult people. [13:20] ltbpdraft (n=ltbplinu@187.36.70.146) left irc: Client Quit [13:20] fire|bird: I reinstalled thrice and lost my changes twice, and same for each update =/ [13:21] that's why I'd like to get possible changes upstream [13:21] dive: "shouldn't do" as in "don't install them" or as in "shouldn't matter" [13:21] and btw, what is the use for icon-them.cache files? there is one for the hicolor theme but not in other folders [13:21] Kieffer: what? insulting people isnt against channel rules, especially when they deserve it like you do [13:21] LongeFlucht, as in shouldn't matter [13:21] thanks, again [13:21] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [13:22] LongeFlucht, did you also read the update email on that? [13:22] Actually, we almost go so far as to encourage insulting people in this channel. [13:22] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.31.117) joined ##slackware. [13:22] can we whip people too? :) [13:22] only i can [13:22] Action: spook is the channel DM [13:23] dive: that is the one I am reading [13:23] spook: ='( [13:23] I hadn't taken action on the original e-mail [13:23] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/BAGDX720.html [13:23] ok [13:23] Action: spook whips Camarade_Tux [13:23] so when I saw the update, that is the one whose packages I am going to use [13:23] right [13:23] \o/ [13:23] Action: fire|bird kicks spook [13:24] Camarade_Tux, enjoy that whipping? [13:24] spook, and why do i deserve to be insulted? because i am new to tech? [13:24] perv [13:24] Kieffer: do you want the full explaination or the simple one? [13:24] was that simply a matter of pm? [13:24] Keiffer: Because you are asking stupid questions and not listening to those people who are giving you good help. [13:25] Kieffer, shut up and die [13:25] give me the full [13:25] full what? [13:25] Oh Lord.... [13:25] Keiffer: i'll give you both. [13:25] straterra: Long time no see. [13:26] Alan_Hicks: I talked to you like last week :P [13:26] full: you're an arsehole. simple: fuck you [13:26] You asked about..something Windows..or something [13:26] Action: spook whips straterra [13:26] you dirty windows lover [13:26] Ah! [13:26] Keiffer, full explanation: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/HMs1pA52.html [13:26] spook: I just got a new Windows based smartphone [13:26] It's quite badass [13:26] win mo? [13:26] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "leaving" [13:27] or win ce? [13:27] spook, it was a great explanation. very logical, indeed. [13:27] mobile 6.1 [13:27] Alan_Hicks: Remember now? [13:27] boy this channel is ascerbic the last couple of days :) maybe it's the weather - is the moon full? :) [13:27] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC30676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [13:27] yeap [13:27] The Moon is Waxing Crescent (3% of Full) [13:27] fire|bird: compare http://pers.yaxm.org/bootchart/bootchart0.svg and http://pers.yaxm.org/bootchart/bootchart4.svg [13:27] missyjanes, don't worry about me. worry about your illness, ok? [13:27] no, its not. [13:28] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-421657.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:28] dive, thank you [13:28] Kieffer: no seriously, fuck off. [13:29] because you say so, i will [13:29] Camarade_Tux: cool, getting a little better. :P [13:29] Alan_Hicks: Whats new? [13:29] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: "42" [13:29] fire|bird: yeah, now if I could get rid of update-mime-database [13:29] speaking of phones,http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/08/21/1155217/Nokia-Leaks-Phone-With-Full-GNULinux-Distribution [13:30] straterra: Other than needing repair work on my truck and a good vacation, not much. [13:30] Camarade_Tux: That's in rc.M as well iirc [13:30] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [13:30] slackytude: I'll make my browser run on it :D [13:31] What'd you do to your truck? [13:31] heh [13:31] fire|bird: yeah, it is but actually what I'd like is to avoid useless work: you don't need to update that at each boot, it must be possible to run it only when needed [13:32] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [13:32] john_dee (n=id@93-81-71-163.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [13:32] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:32] spook. meanwhile, for you and all those who don't like me: live with it. adapt. i am not leaving. i don't bother you, you don't bother me. fin. [13:33] Camarade_Tux, usually, you make a cron rule then [13:33] Camarade_Tux: yeah, make it a cron job and take out of rc.M [13:33] Kieffer: we'll see about that. [13:33] slackytude: what I'm looking for is something like "if magic; then run it; fi" ;) [13:33] ah, magic [13:33] yep :) [13:33] bootchart looks awesome [13:34] I have a magic wand :) [13:34] ban / kick? [13:34] perv [13:34] I guess you could write a script something that looks for changes in the dirs those updates are needed for [13:34] inotify in dir -> do update [13:34] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-237.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [13:35] or a find using file time [13:35] of course, you had to lauch those then ^-^ [13:35] dive, nah [13:35] Camarade_Tux: What exactly are you trying to do? Run an arbitray script at a magically determined time? [13:36] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.164.231.193) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:36] Alan_Hicks: avoid running update-mime-databse during every boot [13:36] bootchart.org needs to l2 dns [13:36] Comment it out. [13:36] no-www.org ! [13:37] Alan_Hicks: nah, I'd like to still have it run when there is something to update (but if I don't manage to, I'll just comment it out yeah) [13:37] Alan_Hicks, a solution is sought for running update-mime when it needs to run [13:37] Camarade_Tux: You can just manually run it after any big upgradepkg. [13:37] which means inotfy, imho [13:38] Alan_Hicks: I see two problems: 1- that's too easy, 2- it means I need memory :D [13:38] Action: Camarade_Tux doesn't even remember to shave [13:39] Camarade_Tux, http://inotify.aiken.cz/?section=incron&page=about&lang=en [13:39] Camarade_Tux: my site classifies as class A [13:39] interesting [13:40] slackytude: nice [13:40] it is [13:40] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.31.117) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:40] so, package that, add rules for changes to the various updates, done [13:40] spook: class B ;) [13:40] isnt Class A the best? [13:41] spook: nah, B better [13:41] why? [13:41] oh [13:41] B redirects www.example.com to example.com [13:41] urg [13:41] http redirects? [13:41] see http://no-www.org/faq.php [13:42] bah, update-mime-database [13:43] Camarade_Tux: my site, www is a cname for the root domain [13:43] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:44] what file should I tail for vsftpd to watch connections made and files downloaded? I did /var/log/vsftpd.log but it just keeps refreshing with attempts to log in. [13:44] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [13:44] spook: I don't have enough control on the dns I think [13:44] Camarade_Tux: i use afraid.org [13:45] 114.4 proof rum [13:45] spook: noted, will check later on though, I don't have much time now =/ [13:46] tooly (n=tooly@e178154136.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:46] think I'll chmod -x it [13:47] noooo, setuid 0 it [13:47] in soviet russia, IT chmod +x's you! [13:47] reboot time :) [13:47] in soviet russia, soviet russia russia itself [13:48] in soviet russia, aissaur teivos ni [13:48] parastroika [13:50] Action: quasar goes to play Command & Conquer now. [13:50] the original? [13:50] RA2 [13:50] :) [13:50] thats not a real C&C game sorry [13:50] Action: Camarade_Tux has C&C95 [13:50] I have them all, I just like RA2 the most out of the set :) [13:51] RA2 just fucks up the story line. [13:51] usb_wifi_dongle (n=usb_wifi@128.Red-83-63-136.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:51] if you install a kernel for example from slackpkg, is it ok to keep the box running or should you reboot the server immediately? [13:51] it was just franchise milking [13:51] have C&C 95, the second one, RA1 and RA2 legit [13:52] considering RA3's length, I'm glad I don't have bought it [13:52] ra3 sucks, i got it [13:52] it's not that good [13:52] comrad, any answer to my question ? [13:52] and C&C tiberium wars would crawl when there is too many units on the map [13:52] the true C&C games ended at tib sun [13:52] and if you kill too many units at once (atomic weapon for instance), the game crashes [13:52] eddie_grey (n=Usuario@200.138.220.246) joined ##slackware. [13:52] i wish the game would have giant maps like that supreme commander game [13:53] jeev: which question? :D [13:53] sup comm cant be equaled for that, no one tries. [13:53] i want to launch airplanes from 30 bases [13:53] if you install a kernel for example from slackpkg, is it ok to keep the box running or should you reboot the server immediately? [13:53] that one [13:53] spook, i wish ;/ [13:53] jeev: no need to reboot [13:53] ok [13:53] if you overwrite the modules, you may not be able to load them though [13:54] if you upgradpkg it will delete the old modules [13:54] so you definiely won't [13:54] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:55] supreme commander 2 coming 2010 [13:55] the exploit in the kernel is only local priv escalation right? [13:55] but it loks weird [13:55] spook, yeppers [13:55] so no big deal [13:55] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:56] ok, compare file:///home/tux/bootchart/bootchart0.svg and file:///home/tux/bootchart/bootchart5.svg :) [13:56] fire|bird: ^^ [13:56] Firefox can't find the file at /home/tux/bootchart/bootchart5.svg [13:56] lol ^^ [13:56] fastest boot yet. Congratz. [13:56] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Success [13:56] http://pers.yaxm.org/bootchart/bootchart0.svg and http://pers.yaxm.org/bootchart/bootchart5.svg ;) [13:56] Camarade_Tux: 2 seconds between the getty starts. [13:57] The requested URL /bootchart/bootchart5.svg was not found on this server. [13:57] Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. [13:57] lol. 404'ed the 404 [13:57] spook: I haven't touched the files in /etc/rc.d :) [13:57] bah >< [13:58] I have forgotten to scp bootchar5.svg [13:58] sorry [13:58] actually I have only forgotten to type the password :) [13:58] try again :) [13:58] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:59] Camarade_Tux, if it's more than 15 secs boot time I will shoot you in the foot. [13:59] dive: it is ;) [13:59] 26s [13:59] actually it should be around 17s [13:59] Action: dive shoots Camarade_Tux in the foot [13:59] dance now! [13:59] haha, fail! *that* was _your_ foot :) [14:00] Camarade_Tux: nice :) [14:00] Camarade_Tux: thats still 20 seconds [14:00] Camarade_Tux, pictures? [14:00] ah right nvm [14:01] Camarade_Tux: What did you do that made that change? [14:01] giuppy (n=giuppy@host18-134-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:01] Camarade_Tux: what are you doing to make it boot faster? [14:01] spook: I could get up to a second with s/hwclock/hwclock&/ [14:01] put an r-type sticker on your box [14:01] Camarade_Tux, cpu has gone down a lot. Is it necesary to run ldconfig though? That can take a lot of time too. [14:02] spook: I've used chmod -x and rm for now [14:02] Camarade_Tux: ah. [14:02] you dont need ldconfig unless you add libraries, right? [14:02] eddie_grey (n=Usuario@200.138.220.246) left irc: "Fui embora" [14:02] spook: 'rm /usr/share/icons/hicolor/icon-theme.cache' will prevent gtk-update-icon-cache from running at each boot [14:02] spook: yeah [14:03] and chmod -x /usr/bin/update-mime-database #because I don't use the mime database anyway [14:03] Camarade_Tux, all that stuff is commented out in mine. I just run when I need it. [14:03] Camarade_Tux: hal is what takes the most time on my boot, anything that could get that faster? :P [14:03] fire|bird, upgrade to the hal 9000 [14:04] Camarade_Tux: now go remove all the sleeps [14:04] chmod -x /usr/bin/update-{pango-querymodules,pixbuf-loaders,gtk-immodules} #I don't need fancy input methods [14:04] dive: haha [14:04] (and i don't install fonts or images) [14:05] fire|bird: can you say if it takes time for a specific device? [14:05] you're getting to multiuser in 12seconds [14:05] spook: :) [14:05] pupiteee (n=p@79.101.88.161) joined ##slackware. [14:05] Camarade_Tux: no, I can't, I just know that during boot it sits the longest on hal [14:05] Action: spook goes back to drinking his 114.4 proof rum [14:06] pupit (n=pupit@91.150.106.118) joined ##slackware. [14:06] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-2-57-41.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:06] fire|bird: does it still happen if you restart hal after boot? if so, you could maybe strace it [14:06] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-2-57-41.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:06] hussein bolt: new world record :D [14:07] Camarade_Tux: Hmm, not sure about that, I could try and see. [14:07] oh, usain [14:07] pupit (n=pupit@91.150.106.118) left irc: Client Quit [14:07] grep sleep /etc/rc.d/* :o [14:08] find / -mount -exec "sed -e 's/sleep .*//'" [14:08] heh [14:09] do it [14:09] :> [14:09] dive: i know its horrible [14:10] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-2-57-41.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:11] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-2-57-41.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:11] wow: /etc/rc.d/rc.4:sleep 30 [14:12] Kieffer (n=mIRCuser@193.239.140.184) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:12] read the context [14:12] oh right yeah I just did :P [14:12] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [14:12] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [14:13] initself_ (n=initself@wsip-98-174-154-206.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:14] initself (n=initself@wsip-98-174-154-206.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:15] :D [14:17] hmmm, 4s lag? [14:17] hmm [14:17] 3! [14:17] no, me ;) [14:18] men without hats are awesome [14:18] 0.577 [14:18] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:19] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-11.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:19] no reply to finger ;| [14:19] no reply from /finger yourmum [14:20] no reply from /fingter yourface [14:20] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:20] Hi all [14:20] i wouldnt think so, fingter isnt a valid command [14:20] A little problem with Konqueror. [14:20] bah [14:20] fail [14:21] hm... poll question for KDE users: what plasmoids do you consider to be "must have" ? [14:21] Konqueror freezes up when I want to browse local directories [14:21] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-28-192.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:21] It works fine with the internet [14:21] quasar: task manager [14:21] ganeshix: solution: use dolphin [14:21] When I want to browse local directories, it starts hogging the cpu: it reaches nearly 100% and the whole system gets to a stall... [14:22] spook, dolphin? [14:22] thunar [14:22] I've been so happy with konqueror so far... [14:22] dolphin is the file manager for kde. [14:22] It's just happening after my upgrade to 3.5.10 [14:22] thunar xfce's [14:22] yep [14:22] ganeshix: yeah well, kde4. [14:23] end of discussion [14:23] http://jacksonpublick.livejournal.com/26086.html [14:23] lol [14:23] spook, this means at this point upgrading to current from 12.2 [14:24] Or kde4 will work out of the box if I install it from the slack current repositories? [14:24] no [14:24] definately not. [14:24] i will laugh and mock you if you try [14:25] spook, that's what I thought. In other words, it's about upgrading to current. [14:25] Wouldn't that make my system unstable? [14:25] no [14:25] what gave you that idea? [14:25] ganeshix: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/dolphin/ [14:25] wow [14:25] RIAA added $2/month to sirius/xm monthly bill [14:26] -current is more stable that other distro's stable releases [14:26] spook, I see... [14:26] ubuntu for example. [14:27] bah [14:27] ubuntu what? :D [14:27] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:27] Camarade_Tux: ubuntu's stable releases are more unstable than -current [14:27] since when was ubuntu stable? [14:28] spook: oh, yeah ;) [14:28] There are other functions which are affected now, such as: when I download something from the internet, I have to choose the folder and then a window opens with my home directories.... at that point, Konqueror freezes up. [14:28] capone: since you turn it off :) [14:28] haha i see that one [14:29] ganeshix, anything strange in your home directory? Like a mounted samba folder pointing at an unreacheble network or something like that? [14:30] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:30] had to put ubuntu on a server at work other day, guess what, even the guy who asked for it gave up, it was just too damn stubborn predicting what we want, so i just put slackware on there to fix it :P [14:30] lol [14:32] dive, I have a mounted sshfs share on home now. [14:32] unmount it' [14:32] ganeshix, unmount it and see if it helps [14:32] :) [14:32] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A73D6A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:35] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:35] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A73D6A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:36] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [14:36] dive, same result after unmounted the shhfs mounts... it starts hogging the cpu and stays that way [14:36] 99.5% [14:36] only in your home? [14:37] yes [14:38] pastebin mount [14:38] maybe thumbnails? [14:38] sheppard: should i pay attention to any of these warnings? mckay: not today, no. [14:39] dive, http://pastebin.com/f2157a823 [14:39] slackytude, thumbnails, could you please explain? [14:39] ganeshix, ls -l your home [14:40] maybe it tries to generate thumbnils for pics, video, pdf and hangs one a corrupt one [14:40] happened to me [14:40] if only 'find /mnt/my_room' worked [14:40] will it blend [14:41] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [14:41] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net" [14:43] john_dee (n=id@93-81-71-163.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:43] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [14:43] could try changling view mode to list and see then [14:44] VLife55VL (n=RScript@189.57.19.89) joined ##slackware. [14:44] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [14:45] changling view mode [14:45] the mode that lets you view changlings [14:46] like odo? [14:46] good plan [14:46] lol nerds [14:46] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:46] why didnt the federation think off that. would have solved the dominiom problem [14:47] Ä [14:47] Ä? [14:47] dive, http://pastebin.com/m75c87d49 [14:48] phzin (n=RScript@189.57.19.89) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:48] Nick change: VLife55VL -> phzin [14:49] menudencias perhaps? [14:49] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.156.96) joined ##slackware. [14:50] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:50] scubacuda (n=rog@netblock-68-183-173-103.dslextreme.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:51] dive, it points to a truecrypt mount, when I use it, but it is not mounted now... do you think it could be a problem? [14:52] hmm might be [14:52] does mounting it change anything [14:52] brb [14:53] dive, It'll try mounting it now. [14:54] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:55] glarb (i=1000@c-68-43-104-151.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:56] Ä [14:56] shit that's crazy [14:56] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:56] kancilx (n=securxce@114.58.64.138) joined ##slackware. [14:57] dive, after mounting menudencias, konqueror functions well for directory browsing... [14:57] Ä is a good root password [14:58] why is it a good password? [14:58] why isn't it [14:58] because theres no direct key for it? [14:59] dive, I unmounted the truecrypt mount and still konqueror functions well now. [14:59] and because its too short [14:59] strange [14:59] e [14:59] I've never see that character combination in any wordlist though [14:59] see/seen [15:00] Even gigantic multi-gig wordlists [15:00] slackytude mentioned something about thumbnails [15:00] 2 new -current changelogs to upgrade to... [15:00] changelings!? [15:01] ganeshix, I would try moving all files out of home into folders, so that home only contains folders. After that maybe look at dotfiles. [15:01] hahaha unicode character ? [15:01] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [15:02] PQ [15:02] [15:02] dive, I'll do that. Thanks a lot for your help... :) [15:03] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:03] np [15:03] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:03] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. 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[15:16] ctrl+shift+u then 2620 [15:16] yes [15:16] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [15:16] _ [15:16] finally got the damned broadcom wireless driver working but it shows as eth1 lol [15:17] i_is_cat: just fix that in the udev rules [15:17] /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules [15:17] look at that file [15:17] k, thanks. I'm currently on the windows machine so I can't try it but will play later :) [15:18] [15:19] hmmm ok ty antiwire, aside from that issue, the only other thing that is not working properly is the lid closing on this netbook, sometimes it works when i open it i can unlock the session and keep going, other times it just gives me a black screen and i cant do anything but reboot [15:19] KLMNO [15:19] where would i look for error logs or something about that? [15:19] I don't know there. My lid switch is hooked via acpi [15:20] ya i dont know either its quite annoying.. :S [15:20] shoudl be acpi [15:21] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:21] i tried adjusting the settings in kde [15:21] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:21] but still seems the same [15:21] artv61 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:21] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [15:21] artv61_ (n=artv61@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:22] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:23] ” [15:23] hmm [15:24] re; dint know a blackout hapd [15:24] tunder [15:24] re; dint know a blackout hapd [15:25]  [15:26] mrintegrity (n=mrintegr@h-42-214.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [15:26] hi all, i have a problem with slapt-get. is this the correct place to ask about it? [15:26] its the most bizar thing i ever seen [15:26] yes.. stop using it :) [15:26] quasar: lol, just started, first impressions not so good! [15:27] pupiteee (n=p@79.101.88.161) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:27] it shouldn't be .. it sucks :) [15:27]  e [15:27] pupiteee (n=p@79.101.185.83) joined ##slackware. [15:27] i installed gnome-network-manager with it and the binaries are all there.. [15:27] root@mrwork:~# file /usr/bin/nm-applet [15:27] /usr/bin/nm-applet: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [15:27] mrintegrity, people in here usually ddont like it [15:27] lol [15:27] uh [15:27] as if slapt-get wasnt enough [15:27] see? but when i run nm-applet it says /usr/bin/nm-applet: No such file or directory [15:28] hahaha yes, nm-applet [15:28] mrintegrity, use wicd [15:28] today is my first attempts in slack [15:28] mrintegrity, version? [15:29] nm-applet is a complicated little thing, recent versions use a lot of things not found in slack [15:29] slackytude: ok ok, i will try it. but wth is up with the file not found when it clearly is and the permissions are fairly lax [15:29] mrintegrity, who knows, it sucks anyway [15:29] slackytude: of slackware? 12.2 64bit current [15:29] i took current because i thought it meant latest stable :) [15:29] now i find out otherwise of course [15:30] wicd should be in /extra then [15:30] mrintegrity, if you can get it working you'll like it, but i don't know how that is via a package manager. i had to compile mine and it has a lot of non-standard-slack dependencies [15:30] slackytude: dont know exactly what you mean when you say /extra [15:30] noob here :) [15:30] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-124-195.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [15:30] _† [15:31] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-124-195.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [15:31] obvoiusly you mean a extras type repository.. like ubuntu universe etc but im just learning how to install packages [15:31] mrintegrity, I mean its in the /extra dir on cd/dvd [15:31] ah!!!!!!!1 [15:31] yep [15:31] lol [15:31] mmm ubuntu. [15:31] no [15:31] never. [15:31] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.26) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:31] mrintegrity, take a look at slackpkg and sbopkg as well [15:31] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [15:31] mrintegrity, and check out slackbuilds.org [15:32] sbopkg.org [15:32] and the slackbook in /topic [15:32] quasar: i used gentoo from 2001 - 2006 then just ubuntu.. seemes to have sapped my brain of all knowledge [15:32] slackytude: thanks mate! [15:32] good pointers [15:32] will follow them [15:32] mrintegrity: ah, yes.. the typical side effects.. take two slackwares and call me in the morning. [15:33] mrintegrity, if you have slackpkg working you can do a slackpkg install wicd [15:33] corte (n=corte@cpe-024-074-144-179.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:34] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:36] Could anyone explain to me why a kernel bzImage would compile to /usr/src/linux/arch/x86/boot/bzImage, as opposed to /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage..? [15:36] i386 is a symlink... [15:36] look again [15:36] this finally changed for the better (using x86) a while ago [15:37] ahhh I understand, thanks antiwire [15:37] slackytude: cant beleive how fscking fast slackpkg is!!!! [15:37] it doesnt compile [15:37] gets binary packages [15:37] yes i gather that [15:38] so, its just wget && installpkg [15:38] doesn\t do dependancy management? [15:38] wicd is quite small though [15:38] nope [15:38] that too [15:38] mrintegrity, nope [15:38] here we go [15:38] argh.. thats why its not working hten :) [15:38] pupiteee (n=p@79.101.185.83) left irc: "Leaving." [15:38] not working? [15:38] why what isn't working? [15:38] ImportError: No module named wicd.wpath [15:39] need some python module i guess [15:39] hrm [15:39] did you even to a full install? [15:39] to/do [15:39] anybody on 64x current with wicd? [15:39] antiwire: yes, all 4.5gb or whatever it was [15:39] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-20-241.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] how did you install wicd? [15:40] that should be included in wicd [15:40] aye [15:40] slackpkg install wicd [15:40] /var/log/packages/wicd-1.5.9-noarch-1_slack12.2:usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/wicd/wpath.py [15:40] /var/log/packages/wicd-1.5.9-noarch-1_slack12.2:usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/wicd/wpath.pyc [15:40] mrintegrity, whats your mirror? [15:40] sweden [15:40] reinstall from a different mirror_ [15:40] picked the right version? [15:40] ? [15:40] which version python? [15:41] mrintegrity: you might wanna restart dbus and stuff maybe. maybe a full reboot will be even better [15:41] hmm.. dunno if i picked the right version? version of slackpkg? i just took the most recent [15:41] mrintegrity, I meant did you select a -current mirror for slackpkg? [15:41] oh yeah, that sounds reasonable too [15:41] version of python? [15:42] sahko, reboot shouldnt be needed [15:42] slackytude: hmm.. just a momment [15:42] ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-12.2/ [15:42] ah [15:42] wrong one! [15:42] dscastro (n=diego@unaffiliated/dscastro) joined ##slackware. [15:42] hi... [15:42] -current is on python 2.6 [15:42] damn im being far to hasty [15:42] cat /etc/slackware-version [15:42] 12.2 is 2.5 [15:42] slackytude: yeah i know, but a reboot restarts all services, thats why i suggested it [15:43] sahko, its overkill, its not windows [15:43] corte (n=corte@cpe-024-074-144-179.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:43] sahko, usually /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus reload works [15:43] agreed [15:43] how can i keep my kernel + layer7 + grsecurity updated if layer 7 and grsecurity don't able to support 2.6.30 release [15:43] layer 7? [15:44] dscastro, gotta wait [15:44] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [15:44] Action: quasar stabs edman007 [15:45] y0 edman007 [15:45] slackytude, i'll install new firewall, how can i choice versions? [15:45] not my fault [15:45] sahko: slackytude: and everyone else: THANK YOU!!!! YOU ROCK!! :D [15:45] power went out [15:45] mrintegrity, change mirror to a current one, slackpkg update, slackpkg install upgrade wicd [15:45] stupid lightning [15:45] mrintegrity, works now? [15:45] erm [15:45] still got thunder, but we are past the hail [15:45] slackytude: yep, perfect, thjanks [15:45] mrintegrity, change mirror to a current one, slackpkg update, slackpkg upgrade wicd [15:45] when slackware 13 is released, many KDE versions were released during the time of freezing 13, hahahaha [15:45] ^-^ [15:45] dive: way ahead of you :) [15:45] k [15:45] but thnx though [15:46] <3 wicd [15:46] made life so much better on laptops [15:46] shyko (n=shyko@201-76-78-119.flash.tv.br) joined ##slackware. [15:47] dive, how to get the utf heart? [15:47] slackytude, does it make sense? [15:47] dive, e ? [15:47] does KDE have an quivalent to wicd tool? [15:47] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.28) joined ##slackware. [15:47] (in Slackware) [15:47] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-20-241.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: "Vanishes with a small pop" [15:47] dscastro, huh? [15:48] slackytude, do a /completion -auto '<33' e (without the '') [15:48] then whenever you type '<33' it will replace it [15:48] / [15:48] dive, I wants the ctrl-shift-u code thingy [15:48] it's on that page [15:48] dive, thats for irssi? [15:49] slackytude, yes [15:49] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] i wanna set new server, and patch layer7 + grsecurity [15:49] cityLights (n=cityLigh@bzq-84-108-42-233.cablep.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] ok this is weird.. i just plugged in my sdcard and tried to mount it and it says it does not exist [15:49] my term doesn't do ctrl-shift-u [15:49] I read a pulse audio developer comment about the need to have the audio processing out of the kernel space [15:49] what are the guidlines in the linux kernel , for what should be in the kernel and what is in user space? [15:49] e [15:49] dscastro: are you sure grsec doesn't support 2.6.30? I see patches that suggest otherwise [15:49] dive, got it in xchat now, thx [15:49] i checked dmesg it says its sdb1 but i try sdb1 and it says: mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist [15:49] http://www.grsecurity.net/test/grsecurity-2.1.14-2.6.30.4-200908132040.patch [15:49] slackytude: definately seems nice but i cant get an ip address.. dmesg shows odd error too [15:49] wlan0: mismatch in privacy configuration and mixed-cell disabled - abort association [15:49] wlan0: privacy configuration mismatch and mixed-cell disabled - disassociate [15:49] mrintegrity (n=mrintegr@h-42-214.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: "Reconnecting" [15:50] mrintegrity (n=mrintegr@h-42-214.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [15:50] woops [15:50] doesnt work after all.. strange error in dmesg [15:50] antiwire, i said about both, grsecurity + layer 7 [15:50] i never had issues with it before.. and dmesg shows it as the right size etc [15:50] dscastro, never heard of layer7 [15:50] mrintegrity, the error doesnt compute... [15:50] dscastro: what part of the "application" layer are you talking about? [15:50] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:51] wlan0: mismatch in privacy configuration and mixed-cell disabled - abort association wlan0: privacy configuration mismatch and mixed-cell disabled - disassociate [15:51] iptables [15:51] slackytude: ^ [15:51] dscastro: can you explain the issue with a bit more clarity? [15:51] mrintegrity, yeah, I meant, I have no clue. hows your wifi setup? [15:52] ok.. sorry about english ! letme try explain! [15:52] slackytude: at girlfriends parents house.. just some standard netgear router with wpa2 [15:52] i wanna set new server, and i finding updated version of kernel, grsecurity and layer7 [15:53] please, whatever you are referring to as "Layer 7" is making this very difficult to understand. [15:53] hays__ (n=hays@unaffiliated/hays) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:53] are you talking about the specific iptables L7 module? [15:53] yep.. [15:53] l7 is a classifier system, on linux that is netfilter [15:53] not iptables itself.... [15:54] ow.. sorry [15:54] so you issue is with a specific iptables module and not that iptables itself won't work with grsec.... [15:54] mrintegrity (n=mrintegr@h-42-214.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Client Quit [15:55] mrintegrity (n=mrintegr@h-42-214.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [15:55] what happens, you can't get l7 match support? [15:55] yep [15:55] mrintegrity, sorry mate, dunno. that card + network works in ubuntu? [15:56] there no patch in website! [15:56] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] slackytude: yep [15:56] mrintegrity, how is network started now? Through /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1? [15:56] and wpa? [15:57] First off, this is ##slackware and even though we are willing to decipher what you really mean it's probably not the best place to ask a question about grsec and iptables L7 module support. [15:57] mrintegrity, I suggest you wait till somebody with more skills is around..... [15:57] dive: dunno mate, this is my first hour with slackware.. did default install from dvd of slack current and now am using wicd-client after having installed it with slackpgk [15:59] mrintegrity (n=mrintegr@h-42-214.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Client Quit [15:59] mrintegrity (n=mrintegr@h-42-214.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [15:59] ok [15:59] rworkman might know more about wicd errors. [15:59] dcastro, this show .30.1 has been tested: http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/kernelcompat [15:59] or alienbob [16:00] yeah [16:00] dscastro: You're probably best off bringing this up to the L7 people http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/ [16:00] mancha: damn it [16:01] might need a tweak in wpa_supplicant [16:01] altho wpa2 should be supported by default [16:01] slackytude, wicd doesn;t use it [16:01] dive, huh? [16:02] all settings go in wicd itself -> /etc/wicd/* [16:02] big_bass (n=big_bass@200.52.205.125) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:02] wicd doesn't use wpa_supplicant.conf [16:02] it uses a wpa_supplicant config, just not the one in /etc [16:02] right [16:02] mancha: lol it says the patch applies [16:05] it is not really just a slackware thing, all Linux distros could use better wifi support [16:06] Pig_Pen: got that right [16:06] why don't you just use the stock scripts and /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf for everything wifi? [16:06] PIg_Pen it might have been felt stronger for slackware users since all other serious distribs have pam,polkit,gnome and by extension network-manager [16:06] It's designed for that [16:06] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] i.e. for those who are not too happy scripting their wifi connectivity and want point & click asap connections [16:07] antiwire, that's good for home use, but for roaming in unknown places that you don't know wicd is great [16:07] iwlist wlan0 scan [16:07] I use the stock scripts at home [16:08] you have a point there mancha there are some good GUI frontends (gnome & network manager) but i was refering to wpa_supplicant i think it needs more work IMP [16:08] my wpa_supplicant.conf is setup for all of the wireless networks I use, even on roaming networks it works perfectly [16:08] if you need to add a new one you can just use iwlist to scan [16:08] yeah, but wicd is nice and easy and works [16:09] horses for courses I guess [16:09] I use both [16:09] slackytude: normally :) [16:09] well, stock stuff is enough for desktops. roaming laptops is wicd for me [16:09] there is wifi-radar for a front end if wicd does not work for you, wifi-radar is ok once you get done configuring it, but the wifi-radar config frontend is sort of a buggy hog while running, but once done the back end does ok [16:09] mrintegrity, heh, yeah [16:09] ##slackware: mode change '+o Stx' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [16:10] eh, wifi-radar is ok [16:10] tooly (n=tooly@e178154136.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [16:11] hi folks! [16:11] evening [16:11] Dominian / acidchild: Do you guys have a slackbuild for gradm? [16:11] mrintegr1ty (n=mrintegr@h-42-214.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [16:12] my webcam used to work (in the box) with current, but now it stopped :( [16:12] uh, why we have an op now [16:12] take it out of the box [16:12] :) [16:12] we have at least two staffers dawg [16:13] yeah, but they are usually in disguise. if one gets op it means someone gets banned [16:13] maybe, just maybe, /topic slackware 13.0 released! [16:13] because they know how much we like staffers so the installed a staffer with a staffer so they can staff while they staff...YEAH DAWG [16:14] dive, nah ^-^ [16:14] heh [16:14] dive i think you'll more likely get Security: nw thunderbird :) [16:14] slackytude: going to try upgrading the kernel to 2.6.30 [16:14] godspeed [16:14] agentc0re|work: did you finish building pidgin stuff yet? [16:14] mancha, yeah. That reminds me: -current updates. [16:15] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:15] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [16:15] damn, is it actually possible to die from asthma? [16:15] missyjane: yes, asthma attack [16:15] sure [16:15] yeah [16:15] missyjane: From an attack yes. [16:15] Stx, why you got ops? [16:15] yeah [16:15] hm... alright, damn.. [16:16] slackytude: Why do you ask? [16:16] Stx, coz Im a nosy person [16:16] i know of a yound adult female that died before she was 30 of asthma [16:16] missyjane: you actualkly dies from asphyxiation but the asthma is the casue [16:16] Action: NyteOwl can't type today [16:16] god its been so many years since i compiled a kernel.. what are the default make / make install options now? [16:17] antiwire: negative [16:17] you can use a working config and use make oldconfig (or if you are a curses guy make menuconfig) then make modules_install [16:17] antiwire: I just build how it states to build it in their readme [16:17] mancha: yeah, i am using hte current configf [16:17] mancha: yeah, i am using hte current config [16:17] yup, thats what killed her, she could not breath [16:17] this worries me.. [16:17] so cp the .config over and either make oldconfig or make menuconfig. [16:17] does anyone know anything about cough variant asthma? [16:18] missyjane, huh? [16:18] google it slackytude [16:18] Dominian: I think I'm going to make one then. It even supports destdir [16:18] mancha: yeah, i have the .config so now i just need to make && make clean bzImage or something [16:18] im freaking out [16:18] missyjane, realistically speaking, you are more likely to die in a car accident [16:18] i told you what you meed [16:18] need [16:18] missyjane: all i can say is stay out of smokey bars and away from anyone that smokes, dont even go in to a kitchen where it is hot & steamy & smokey [16:19] slackytude, really? im relieved then.. [16:19] is it just make modules_install? does that create a bzImage too? [16:19] Pig_Pen, true i dont except during showers [16:19] mancha: [16:19] no, make creates the bzimage [16:19] missyjane: Do you honestly think this is the best forum to ask if you want answers regarding those questions? ;o) [16:19] corte (n=corte@cpe-024-074-144-179.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:19] missyjane, Im not good at comforting people, am I ? :P [16:19] slackytude: but we already knew that [16:19] Action: slackytude nods [16:19] Pig_Pen: smokey bars? You can't smoke in bars! [16:19] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:19] setup your config (via preferred method). make && make modules_install [16:19] Stx, lol are you new to this channel? :x i like to think i know people here as associates at the very least and friends at the very best [16:19] sure you can >.> [16:19] basically you need clean dry air, move to a desert like arizona or nevada would be great [16:20] antiwire: cool [16:20] hmmm [16:20] mrintegr1ty: take this with you, it is dangerous to go alone http://pastebin.com/m44d0c9c3 [16:22] Hey, could anyone give some advice on the steps necessary to connect my second NIC, through a crossover cable, to a second PC, & providing it with Internet access? I managed to do this before a reformat using iptables, route, or IP, but I simply can't figure out what kind of routes or NAT I need to configure... [16:22] antiwire: thanks [16:22] Pig_Pen: actually, Arizona has become a bad place for asthmatics, it *used* to be one of the best places for asthmatics. [16:22] give the nice an ip and subnet and then masquerade the interface [16:22] missyjane: Im certainly not new. Okey, that was a weird answer, I still dont think its the best forum to get those answers, friends or not friends. [16:22] s/nice/nic [16:23] ##slackware: mode change '-o Stx' by Stx!i=stx@freenode/staff/stx [16:23] cityLights (n=cityLigh@bzq-84-108-42-233.cablep.bezeqint.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:23] Nick change: BP{k}_ -> BP{k} [16:23] mancha, I've already assigned the second NIC a static IP, therefore, all I should need to do is enable IP forwarding & masquerade the interface? [16:23] then comp#2 sets its gw to comp#1 2nd nic [16:23] fire|bird: i know what your talking about, Phoenix has so many swimming pools that it is making the city humid from all the water evaporating [16:23] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:23] corte, yes, allow forwarding and -j MASQit [16:23] aha [16:24] Stx, i already went to the doctor, thatsa how i found out i have asthma but the doctor i have isnt very good at being helpful since he pushed me out for the next patience, so i am doing my own research [16:24] -j MASQ it (sorry space bar on handheld is smaller than thumb) [16:24] there are still a lot of good places just stick to the small towns *stay away from the big cities [16:24] Pig_Pen, i am taking your adivce and doing what i can [16:24] Pig_Pen: just think how much water evaporates from making snow in northern cali [16:24] the op has gone [16:24] party time [16:24] Pig_Pen: yeah, the ozone affects it and it's actually a bad place now for asthmatics, I'm not sure exactly where it is now for rankings. [16:25] missyjane: find another doctor. asthma comes in variosu severities [16:25] missyjane: what type of air conditioning do you have? be sure to keep filters clean on it if it is within your power to change the filters [16:25] PigPen, is that where you are? Phoenix? didn't they used to have a huge smog problem? [16:26] missyjane: Also, with asthma, you usually have allergies as well, (i.e. asthma triggers) that you need to avoid, and, as NyteOwl mentioned, there are several different severities of it, some where you need medication everyday and others where you don't and it barely affects you. [16:26] samuelig (n=samuelig@62.pool85-57-151.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:26] no, i live in Oklahoma [16:26] Pig_Pen: yeah, and a good investment is the more expensive filters that clean the air of dust, etc. [16:27] Action: NyteOwl thinks if he was going to move to the US it would be Vermont, Alaska, Montana in that order heh [16:27] NyteOwl: Alaska? You'll be able to see Russia from your house. :P [16:27] mrintegrity (n=mrintegr@h-42-214.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Success [16:28] the thing is my doctor said if i took the meds it would be gone in a week or two (its been 2 months now) [16:28] thanks mancha! the masquerading is the part I get messed up on..I should be using a -t (i'm guessing this is type?) of NAT, and a POSTROUTING chain? [16:28] fire|bird: well from the right spot on a clear day I can almost see France :p (St Pierre & Miquelon) [16:28] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [16:28] missyjane: If you have asthma, it is NEVER gone, it can be dorment, but never gone. [16:28] Pig_Pen, its clean, i dont use the ac often, NyteOwl i know, the doctor already told me the specifics and other doctors have told me similar, fire|bird yep but nobody knows what is causing me to be allergic, so far i have narrowed it down to stress [16:28] NyteOwl: haha [16:29] it is necessary to report back to your doctor when one method isn't working [16:29] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-2-57-41.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:29] fire|bird: seriously, from the North tip of the Island on a clear day you can just see the Newfoundland coast [16:29] especially if the doctor said two weeks would show a change and you've waited two months? [16:29] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-2-57-41.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:29] St Pierre isn;lt that much further away [16:30] fire|bird, thats depressing [16:30] do you have animals? [16:30] antiwire, cant do, everytime i visit him ig otta pay, money i dont have [16:30] antiwire, not atm no [16:30] missyjane: Well, it can be anything really, stress isn't really a cause of asthma, but can escalate it, some causes can be if you were on a lot of antibiotics as a child ( a lot of ear infections), if you were around smoke a lot as a child, etc. [16:31] Action: NyteOwl has chr9onic bronchitis but thankfully hasn't had an attack in many years [16:31] bronchitis is bad >.> [16:31] Nick change: chris2_ -> chris2 [16:31] missyjane, life is depressing [16:31] hm im sorry NyteOwl, fire|bird stress isnt? hold on it says it is [16:31] slackytude: yes! [16:31] but beer makes it slightly better ;) [16:31] edman007_ (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [16:32] Psychological stress has long been suspected of being an asthma trigger, but only in recent decades has convincing scientific evidence substantiated this hypothesis. [16:32] yes beer makes it slightly tolerable [16:32] y0 BP{k} [16:32] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:32] a trigger isn't a cause. a trigger is what sets off an inflammation [16:32] all hail b33r [16:32] missyjane: Yes, key word being *trigger*, not cause. :) A trigger is something that sets the asthma off, i.e. causes coughing, weezing, etc. [16:32] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:32] I generally don't even think about it anymore. I grew out of it pretty much in my late 20's (was really severe as a chils) and no it only shows up if I get a severe cold [16:33] or, at worse, an asthma attack [16:33] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-124-195.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [16:33] oh i dont understand what the difference is between trigger and cause [16:33] Nick change: edman007_ -> edman007 [16:33] It's possible it start having new symptoms of asthma if you've never had it before but usually asthma is with you your whole life and it just gets suppressed [16:33] yes corte, you got it, masquerade the nic with internet and forward the other nic to it [16:33] thing is that psychologiucal stress, results in physical stress which can trigger thenasthma [16:33] antiwire: exactly, it NEVER goes away. [16:33] power problems SUCK [16:33] edman007: most things suck, what's your point? :p [16:34] slackytude: howdy :) [16:34] NyteOwl, many things blow [16:34] missyjane: a cause is something during your life that has cause the asthma in the first place, a trigger is something *after* you have asthma that triggers the asthma to get worse. [16:34] watcha BP{k} [16:34] s/cause/caused/ [16:34] :-) [16:34] howdy BP{k} [16:34] missyjane: triggers are what set off the symptoms of a condition. IN the case of asthma, you don't really "catch" asthma. It's something that many people are predisposed to or it starts from damage by external forces. [16:34] mancha: thanks! i'll let you know how it goes! [16:34] dive: wotcha. fire|bird: howdy :) [16:35] missyjane, in other words, try not to get stressed seems to be good advice [16:35] dive: yes, and avoid all triggers that you have. [16:35] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-190-115.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:35] thank you fire|bird, antiwire [16:35] Action: dive smokes like a chimney [16:35] dive yeah im gonna... have trouble trying to not stress [16:35] missyjane: people can come down with an asthmatic condition after being exposed to environmental conditions that damage the lungs and air tubes, like dusty mines, poor factory ventilation or asbestos [16:36] xxjx (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: "zzzz" [16:36] missyjane: yw [16:36] i got a few big tests coming up in the coming weeks.. among other things [16:36] usually though, it is a predisposition [16:36] antiwire: yeah, but environmental factors play a huge part also, as you mentioned. [16:36] antiwire: My aunt got it from owning Parrots. [16:36] castro don't forget to enable forwarding via /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward [16:37] yeah, for the predisposed people, those conditions end up being the trigger AND cause [16:37] agentc0re|work, how's the pidgin compiling going? [16:37] agentc0re|work: damn birds! [16:37] lol internet rehab? wtf? [16:37] the dander was so heavy that it damaged her lungs enough that she had to be on oxygen for a while. [16:37] The worst illnesses I have ever dealt with where from surfing in bird polluted ocean water [16:38] agentc0re|work: that's the same with dogs and cats also, it's not the animal itself, it's the dander (i.e. the oil secreted from their skin) that is the problem. [16:38] dive: Ya, speaking of pidgin... :P Um.. i recompiled EVERYTHING.. and still same error. So i am upgrading to current and starting from scratch with removing all non slackware packages and i'll start from there. [16:38] dive: I had to make a custom kernel and ended up doing a few other things when i got this netbook because the audio didn't work... i am wondering if it's because of that. [16:39] hmm maybe. Did you fix it? [16:39] fire|bird: Yup. Some produce more than others. She has a ton of birds though... but has always owned one or more dogs. [16:39] thats depressing, there is no cure for asthma? [16:39] agentc0re|work, whats your pidgin problem? [16:40] oddsock (n=oddsock@dynamic-250-205-23-217.broadband.blic.net) joined ##slackware. [16:40] missyjane, death? [16:40] dive: last night i did slackpkg install-new and this morning i was able to do slackpkg upgrade-all. So when i get up i still need to do clean-system [16:40] dive: after that, i'll know. [16:40] missyjane: nope. but sometimes it goes away for a huge portion of your life [16:40] agentc0re|work, ok [16:40] slackytude: it's the new pidgin with V&V. [16:40] no because it's not strictly speaking a disease. It's a condition of the lungs and bronchial passages [16:40] missyjane: no, there isn't. However, there are new medicines being developed and some stem cell research looks promising for it. [16:40] agentc0re|work, 2.6.1. cant compile it? [16:40] NyteOwl: It is considered a lung disease. [16:40] it can be supressed with drugs, and keeping an eye on trigegrs in your environment [16:41] mrintegr1ty (n=mrintegr@h-42-214.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:41] slackytude: No, it compiles. when i try to do nekid video with dive it doesn't work... [16:41] fire|bird: yes like alcoholism is a "disease" :/ [16:41] fire|bird, stem cells.. oh god please hurry up.. [16:41] agentc0re|work, it tries to save your eyes [16:42] agentc0re|work: it doesn't like you doing video nekid [16:42] ewww [16:42] when you look at what is happening when asthma flares up, from the body's perspective, it resembles an out of control immune system attack on a foreign body in the lungs and bronchial tubes. That's why steroid types of drugs work pretty well [16:42] it just doesn't wanna do dive nekid >.> [16:42] agentc0re|work, what error [16:43] ;| [16:43] missyjane: haha, yeah. That might be a ways down the road though, so, just learn to avoid stress, your triggers, etc. [16:43] stress, as well as environment can cause that type of immune response [16:43] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:43] slackytude: If you can, check your backlog for things i've posted. I can't remember the exact error. [16:43] error: to ugly for video chat.call aborted [16:43] lol [16:43] Action: dive shoots slackytude in the foot [16:44] im curious, whats the deal with stem cell? it seems to be the cure ffor a lot of peoples problem from beintg unable to walk to deafness, why are they taking so long? i know for 8 years bush stopped it, but now that bush is out, whats the problem? [16:44] ouch [16:44] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:44] With asthma also, (and the medications do not help), you are immunocompromised and can therefore catch colds, etc. a lot easier. [16:44] missyjane, its new [16:44] missyjane: it's also very complex [16:44] missyjane, also, there were ethical problems [16:44] missyjane: It's new and a lot of research needs to be done [16:44] like killing babies [16:45] most of the applications for stem cell therapy are custom designed on a per patient basis. [16:45] no no, ethical is bs that comes from religion, as far as im concerned you can develop stem cells from bones [16:45] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-31-97-212.popl.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:45] missyjane, now [16:45] missyjane, and not as fast [16:45] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "lalala caindo fora!!!" [16:45] well, bones, teeth, your umbilical cord if you happen to have it laying around still... [16:46] that wasnt the cse in the beginning [16:46] antiwire: glass jar, top shelf. :) [16:46] lol [16:46] slackytude, true lol [16:46] fire|bird, hha [16:46] but scientists need to hurry up [16:46] this is all driven by one thing...money [16:46] i thought the koreans said they came out with the cure with stem cell? was that a lie? [16:48] http://xkcd.com/568/ [16:48] lagann_ (n=agon@c-24-61-204-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:49] vhprice (i=1000@201-15-145-132.bommtempo.inf.br) joined ##slackware. [16:49] slackytude, good one [16:49] 'aww' [16:49] Hello there, is there anybory here that can install RTL 8103E(L) in a Slackware 12.0? [16:49] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-124-195.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [16:49] science my discover immortality but not in the next 80 years [16:50] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [16:50] LOL! [16:51] Evening peeps [16:51] y0 Zordrak [16:51] evening Zordrak [16:51] hi, i am using slackware 12.2 and i've noticed that bittorrent-curses disables the sound system on my laptop. i can't listen to internet radio or use skyoe while bittorrent-curses is downloading. any ideas? [16:51] y0 Zordrak [16:51] lo Zordrak [16:51] hey hey Zordrak [16:52] heya Necos [16:52] is there a possibility to install slackware 12.2 on ext4 filesystem partition? [16:52] blkdg, uh, throttle download speed? [16:52] wow.. four responses.. need to get you people in on a weekday from 9am GMT when the tumbleweeds are flynig [16:52] vhprice, what module does that use? rtl8187? [16:52] Zordrak, I go bed at 9 am ;-) [16:52] Zordrak, Im always on at 9am gmt [16:52] sadly [16:53] heh [16:53] Zordrak: ESAD! :P [16:53] mancha, I'm trying to use R8101 .. [16:53] Zordrak: 5 responses now ;) [16:53] shyko (n=shyko@201-76-78-119.flash.tv.br) left irc: "Leaving" [16:53] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.33.149) joined ##slackware. [16:54] vhprice, and what happens? [16:54] diabolix (n=jsoyke@206.210.81.55) left irc: "Leaving" [16:54] it isnt a wireless card, its a wired card and the device goes up but dont get ping. [16:54] ethtool -i eth0 shows device information... [16:55] did you ifconfig it? [16:55] slackboy, no, local audio from .mov's on my pc either [16:55] strange that in the readme of r8101 says that it supports... [16:55] blkdg, eh [16:55] did you give the nic an address, a subnet, etc? [16:55] I've gone through a bunch of interviews for a voice/data networking job. It started with 20 applicants and now it is down to four and this waiting sucks. If they are looking for one person I feel like I have a 25% chance at this point but if they are looking for two people I know I'd be one of them. [16:55] yes i did and nothing happens [16:56] i'm confused as well slackytude [16:56] vhprice pastebin your ifconfig output [16:56] Morning routine: plug in the lappie, hook up to home box and screen, get coffee, pull up The Register, Slashdot, ICanHasCheezburger, XKCD, Questionable Content, Dilbert, Garfield, Married To The Sea, A Softer World, Penny Arcade, Live Journal, Facebook and the one whose name I can never remember with the canadian networking company [16:56] as well as your route output [16:56] then chill for 30mins while waiting for the usual morning shit to hit the fan [16:56] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [16:57] blkdg, any error if you play audio in console? Like /dev/dsp device busy? [16:57] Zordrak, userfriendly! [16:57] when its settled or nothigns happened, then i dive into real work [16:57] slackytude: thats the one [16:57] Zordrak, heh, same here [16:57] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.128.90) joined ##slackware. [16:57] but hardly any bugger's around on irc :) [16:57] Zordrak, altho, sometimes I just drink coffee and chat [16:57] tomekh (n=user@ebl170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "leaving" [16:57] you me and Camarade_Tux [16:58] tomekh (n=user@ebl170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:58] aye [16:58] problem with audio playback is the skype error. [16:58] except Camarade_Tux doesnt have to work [16:58] vlc gives no error but it's video only [16:58] ifconfig and route goes normal... it didnt make requests at dhcp server... [16:59] did you run a dhcp-client for that interface? [16:59] see y [16:59] vhprice (i=1000@201-15-145-132.bommtempo.inf.br) left ##slackware. [16:59] mancha: worked like a charm :)! appreciate it! [16:59] blkdg, strange unless bittorrent-curses takes hold of sound device. Possible solution might be to set an .asoundrc to do sw mixing, or try another app like rtorrent. [17:00] corte, glad to hear it. enjoy [17:00] Action: missyjane goes off to try to relax [17:00] thank you [17:00] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [17:00] mpg123 says ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1008:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave [17:00] audio_open(): cannot open device default [17:00] audio: Invalid argument [17:00] blkdg, does your sound card support hardware mixing? [17:01] i don't know. it's an azalia intel built in [17:01] i mean it uses the azalia driver [17:01] if not then you might need make an ~/.asoundrc [17:02] dive i think experimenting with another client would be a good choice once these are finished [17:02] have a look on alsa w/site for making and asoundrc. Or maybe someone here knows a bit more about it. [17:02] suid0_ (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [17:02] ok i asked in bittorrent as well. [17:02] blkdg, rtorrent is quite good. [17:02] suid0_ (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Client Quit [17:02] aye [17:03] and I can't think why a console torrent client should be using sound card unless it's set to beep or something... [17:04] yeah, me neither [17:04] weird, but it happens every time. [17:04] thanks again folks. [17:04] blkdg (n=blkdg@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:04] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-2-57-41.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Connection timed out [17:04] i use ctrrent... works great [17:04] *ctorrent [17:05] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@63.99.218.194) joined ##slackware. [17:05] novacrust (n=Crust@72.12.184.33) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [17:05] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:05] lagann_ (n=agon@c-24-61-204-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:06] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-237.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:06] lagann_ (i=agon@c-24-61-204-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Nick change: AnonymousRednek -> nyRednek [17:07] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:09] 14 °C, Partly Cloudy [17:13] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-124-195.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [17:13] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [17:13] Action: hiptobecubic likes deluge [17:13] y0 hiptobecubic [17:13] Yes I like a good downpour [17:14] how did your issue work out? [17:14] slackytude, howdy [17:14] i put my headphones down and my mac zapped me... [17:14] and the power went out 5-6 times today :( [17:14] judequinn (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [17:14] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-124-195.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [17:14] today is a bad day [17:14] sounds it [17:15] corte (n=corte@cpe-024-074-144-179.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:17] So I submitted my first patch to a mailing list today! [17:17] Action: hiptobecubic takes a bow. [17:18] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "on vacation" [17:18] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:18] samuelig (n=samuelig@62.pool85-57-151.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [17:19] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:20] yeah? what was that for? [17:20] xfce4-verve-plugin [17:20] don't know that one [17:21] dive, do you use xfce? [17:21] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-yxkdltbzsosxeeik) left irc: [17:21] on occasion [17:21] i have to say, of the modern DEs/WMs xfce is the least offensive [17:21] whats the verve plugin? i use xfce.. have most of robby's plugin packages too. [17:21] yep [17:21] it's the plugin is basically just a text box that lets you run/launch things [17:22] i have it hotkeyed [17:22] Oh ya.. i think i remember that one now. [17:22] it's marvelous. [17:22] appzer0_ (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] I use ion3 and flux mainly though. Although I use Thunar for browsing files and automount stuff [17:22] works kind of like the new vista search box. [17:22] Or the kde search box, right? [17:22] new KDE that is. [17:22] haven't used either, i don't know [17:23] Action: BP{k} didn't like verve too much .. or perhaps I used ti wrong :) [17:23] hiptobecubic, thats on sbo? [17:23] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-76-235-42-19.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:23] slackytude, yes but it's not _64 safe i don't think. [17:24] Action: slackytude checks [17:25] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:25] My patch is only 1 line. :D [17:26] agentc0re|work: The kde search box is to search for apps that are in your menu. The verve plugin is more like pressing Alt-F2 to get the run dialog box and type what you want to launch. [17:26] cuba33ci (i=cuba33ci@114-45-227-228.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:26] hiptobecubic: the first thing i fixed when i entered the company i'm now working at, was a 1-byte change that made a lot of difference, and it took me a day to find out :) [17:26] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:27] Think of it as having that run dialog box on your taskbar (or panel) at all times to use. [17:27] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [17:27] rg3, nice. What was the byte? '\0' ? [17:27] It's always \0 [17:27] fire|bird: Oh, ah. [17:27] O M G [17:27] http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/08/21/1155217/Nokia-Leaks-Phone-With-Full-GNULinux-Distribution [17:27] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-168-235-42.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] COME ON! [17:27] BP{k}: Nah, verve is really nice, ydiw, ya newb. :P [17:28] ydiw? >.> [17:28] hiptobecubic: no, it was a < changed to a >, or backwards [17:28] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [17:28] Necos: your doing it wrong = ydiw [17:28] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:28] oh lol [17:28] :) [17:28] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [17:28] rg3, that seems like a big deal. [17:29] fire|bird: you can't start making shit up and expect me to read your mind :P [17:29] hiptobecubic: it couldn't have been a '\0', as it's ada code [17:29] Necos: haha, I actually am not the first person to use it. It's not my fault you don't pay attention. :P [17:29] Necos: and to think you work in a school. :P [17:29] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [17:30] Nick change: appzer0_ -> appzer0 [17:30] :P [17:30] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:30] any idea how I could get the third line of some output [17:30] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:30] slackytude: head -3 | tail -1 [17:30] AHHHHH, it's Quiznos [17:30] nice, thx [17:30] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.33.149) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:31] or sed -n '3p' [17:31] i work in an inner-city high school... [17:31] ^5 for sed [17:31] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:31] i'm more worried about a kid not being able to spell their name than acronyms >.> [17:31] Necos: Did that other teacher or whomever ever stop yelling or whatever she was doing? :P [17:31] oh, funny story about that [17:32] electric .com taking a beating from the latest storm [17:32] the principal stepped in [17:32] sed was my second option, as it could be potentially much slower (it would process the entire input, while head will stop at the third line) [17:32] sent her ass on a long lunch [17:32] next day the lady came back and apologized [17:32] well, throw in a 'q' [17:32] Necos: haha, nice. [17:32] seriously...http://ventura.craigslist.org/cpg/1334749033.html [17:32] rule #1 of asking for help: don't push away the help [17:32] lol [17:33] sed -n '3{p;q}' [17:33] antiwire: wtf? :P [17:33] antiwire: you live in ventura? :P [17:33] Necos: you know this already beavis [17:33] or did nullboy become antiwire and no one sent me a memo? :P [17:33] antiwire: LOL [17:33] (^5)^2 for sed [17:33] Action: agentc0re|work smacks Necos [17:34] dscastro (n=diego@unaffiliated/dscastro) left irc: "Saindo" [17:34] Action: Necos faceplants [17:34] wtf agentc0re|work >.> [17:34] agentc0re|work: enough violence, good grief. :P [17:34] can't we all just get along. :P [17:34] Action: agentc0re|work smacks self [17:34] NO!! [17:34] A person asking for help with cracking CS4 on Craigslist...wtf [17:34] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [17:34] heh [17:34] heya hitest [17:34] show up at his house and report him to the BSA [17:34] cracker's bored [17:34] hi fire|bird:) [17:35] antiwire: I have a better one. Ready for this story? [17:35] acronyms are so gay [17:35] Necos: I should do it for him and install some special tools on his system [17:35] antiwire: Why doesn't he just torrent it like most others. :P [17:35] We're upgrading our phone system here at work. We're going to program the new phones like the existing. [17:35] Nothing is changing besides the new physical phone. [17:36] slackmagic: excellent, i didn't remember sed also had a q you could use to stop processing at a given point :) [17:36] maybe placement of buttons and such.. but no big deal. Nothing that doesn't happen when you get a new cell phone. [17:36] i still have a couple of ATT Princess model phones. [17:36] yes | sbopkg -i xfce4-verve-plugin [17:36] duh [17:36] I have managers asking if they can have after hours training and/or 3 days worth of phone training.. [17:36] agentc0re|work: seriously? to use the phone? [17:36] lol [17:36] haha [17:36] cant they just mail out a flyer with the changes [17:36] fire|bird: Yes.. to... use.....the....phone!!! [17:37] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:37] after hour phone training...you better just setup a gotomeeting webinar [17:37] yep, not often used, but handy :) [17:37] 1: Pick Up Receiver 2: Dial Number 3: Wait for other person to answer 4: YOU IDIOT [17:37] go all out [17:37] seriously, go all out with this and make the whole presentation the same information they already know [17:37] do a whole webinar [17:37] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleep" [17:37] So i video taped a co-worker answering the phone and hanging up. At the end she says, "I just completed my phone training!". I sent it out to a few managers. [17:38] Exhibit A: This is a phone cord. :) [17:38] lol [17:38] fire|bird: there's only a shorter route... 1.) Resign (because you're too stupid to operate a phone) [17:38] agentc0re|work that's too funi [17:38] tube it [17:38] hiptobecubic, verve looks kinda useless [17:38] Action: Zordrak kills everybody who doesn't worship Nokia for putting out a proper, un-castrated, GNU/Linux phone. [17:39] slackytude, i must disagree. [17:39] antiwire: Well it's only a local office. and i'm not even doing the training. It's our new phone Vendor. [17:39] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:39] Zordrak, saw that on /. nifty [17:39] Necos: haha. Hey Jim, why'd you quit? Uh, new phone system at work, I couldn't use it. After I left, I called my wife to talk about it. [17:39] hiptobecubic, so, its just like alt+f2 ? [17:39] Zordrak: well, it's yet to be seen :P [17:39] antiwire: I should just interrupt the training and say, "Here's how you pick up a phone!" then pick it up and hang it up. Then dismiss everyone. [17:39] in the wild, so to speak [17:39] dive: thanks a ton...after waiting forever for DLs from slackware's ftp...used the instructions in the link you sent me and all is well [17:39] lol [17:40] it also handles urls etc. has tab completion and history [17:40] such a sad state of affairs [17:40] no need to disbelieve, the predecessors are real [17:40] the last nokia phone I used tried to burn my ear off [17:40] it's currently cold in Florida [17:40] antiwire: Dude... That's not even the half of it. [17:40] hiptobecubic, you have it hotkeyed? [17:40] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: "slackware 13'em forever" [17:41] agentc0re|work: Just get copies of the manual for however many people, when they all show up, pass out the manuals and say "Alright, here you go, read this cover to cover. I'll be back in an hour." [17:41] slackytude, alt-space. and it autohides on its own panel at the bottom left of the screen [17:41] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:41] fire|bird: with my "RTFM" shirt. [17:41] i use it for launching terminals as well [17:41] agentc0re|work: perfect. :) [17:41] hiptobecubic, how can you hotkey a panel plugin? [17:41] just ctrl-enter [17:41] slackytude, it has a script with it. run "verve-focus" [17:42] pupit (n=pupit@91.150.106.118) joined ##slackware. [17:42] oh, that ok. but I have terminal hotkeyed already [17:42] I believe it runs on dbus [17:42] eh [17:42] crap [17:43] removepkg /var/log/packages/xfce4-verve-plugin-0.3.6-i486-1_SBo [17:43] Hmm, spicebird (based on thunderbird) has capability for real time communication using telepathy. I wonder how far off the ground that will get. :P It's at 0.7.1 :P [17:43] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [17:43] fire|bird: After i watched my own training video, i just received a certificate of completion from a co-worker. It was signed by Helen Wait. [17:44] hiptobecubic, not my thing. gratz for the patch tho [17:44] agentc0re|work: hahaha [17:44] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-124-195.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [17:44] that's dangerous, imagine it picking up on what you'd *like* to reply to that email from your boss [17:44] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-124-195.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [17:45] :) [17:45] fire|bird: does it cook dinner too? [17:45] who have a new smileys for my collection :p [17:46] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:46] fredoslack, you have a smily collection? [17:46] hiptobecubic, yes, 40 smileys [17:46] he's fredoslack, of course he has 40 smileys [17:46] very greats :p [17:46] Necos: Not that I've seen. :P [17:47] well damn it... why not? [17:47] mancha: haha, yeah, no doubt. [17:48] Necos: It's only at 0.7.1, don't expect to much. It has had a tabbed interface since it's first release though. :) [17:48] Necos: I'll watch the changelogs and let you know. :P [17:49] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.137.110) joined ##slackware. [17:49] greetings LnxSlck [17:49] hi fire|bird [17:50] how is everything? [17:50] LnxSlck: excellent, thanks. you? [17:50] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [17:50] hmmm - can't seem to join #slamd64 right now [17:50] nm [17:50] fire|bird, nice [17:50] fire|bird, my throat is bad.. [17:51] can't smoke or drink [17:51] crap [17:51] fire|bird: spicebird [17:51] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:51] how is it in terms of building? [17:52] and lol, have you heard of icecat? [17:52] Necos: Umm, haven't built it, I've run it from its directory after extracting. I'm sure you could use, for example, the Tbird slackbuild and go from there. [17:52] yeah, I have. [17:53] interesting [17:53] Necos: spicebird also has calendar, etc. and can use like google widgets and some others. [17:53] Action: Necos checks google [17:53] Necos: It's slow development with it, but I've used it and it seems really stable. [17:54] Necos: spicebird.com :) [17:54] i already had a google window open :P [17:54] can the calendar handle http iCal [17:54] :) [17:55] Zordrak: iirc, yes, but I'll double check. [17:55] all calendars are useless to me without it (most of them) [17:55] even the friggin iphone cant do it [17:55] which is ridiculous [17:55] lol [17:55] spicebird is nice [17:55] it also has msn client [17:55] (so i have an E90, which cant.. but is better than an iphone) [17:55] Zordrak: so in other words "There's not an app for that" :P [17:55] lol [17:55] LnxSlck: you use it? [17:55] supposedly gonna be one in v3.. but who gives a fsck [17:55] JJJunkk (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:56] fire|bird, yes [17:56] the iphone doesn't give you head in the morning either... :P [17:56] fire|bird, some time ago [17:56] LnxSlck: cool [17:56] fire|bird, slow development, but it was nice [17:56] LnxSlck: yeah, very slow, but I like what they are working towards. [17:57] *nod* its calendaring is based on lightning/sunbird.. so it will [17:57] LnxSlck: What email client do you use now? [17:57] Zordrak: cool [17:57] fire|bird, firefox and thunderbird [17:57] fire|bird, that's my combo [17:57] i wish TB would sync properly with my IMAP server [17:57] Necos, works here [17:57] Necos: What isn't working with it? [17:57] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.28) left irc: [17:57] Necos: works fine here. [17:58] here too (dovecot + courier( [17:58] when you delete messages, for example, they don't disappear [17:58] LnxSlck: ever tried seek for tbird? Very nice. [17:58] fire|bird, seek? [17:58] Necos: whats the imap server? [17:58] fire|bird, seek? [17:58] Action: BP{k} uses claws [17:58] TB3 is suppose to autopurge, tho [17:58] BP{k}: That's what I've been using too. [17:58] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [17:58] TB2 + Exchange/IMAP [17:58] oh exchange [17:59] slackytude, LnxSlck: http://simile.mit.edu/seek/ [17:59] fire|bird: if only the calendar plugin could sync with googlecal. [17:59] since i can't directly integrate with exchange, i'm using IMAP [17:59] BP{k}, thunderbird can [17:59] Necos: Bingo [17:59] Exchange. [17:59] BP{k}: The one in claws? [17:59] Dont expect it to work :) [17:59] TB does not sync well with some imap servers [17:59] fsck exchange [17:59] it looks to work locally but its still there remotely and sometimes duplicates stuff [17:59] fire|bird: yes ( or I am doing it wrong .. didn't spend an awful time loooking at it) [17:59] Dovecot & courier work perfectly.. as does UW [18:00] LnxSlck: I don't like thunderbird. [18:00] BP{k}, ok [18:00] anybody knows if TB can have a calendar preview like outlook? [18:00] BP{k}: Hmm, I hadn't really looked into that myself. [18:00] mini-calendar I mean [18:01] slackytude, yes [18:01] thanks for the SEEK ref.. i fscking love faceted browsing in http [18:01] slackytude: Lightning [18:01] slackytude, with lightning [18:01] slackytude: Couldnt live without it [18:01] slackytude: even gives calendar week so i know what the morons in finance are on about [18:01] Zordrak, LnxSlck nope, thats just one month [18:02] i don't know what the fuss is all about, its not like mutt can't do imap [18:02] outlook can show complete yeat [18:02] bugs me [18:02] k [18:02] slackytude: you mean in the same view? I think lightning can do that as well iirc. [18:02] chii (i=chii@freenode/bot/chii) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:02] slackytude: click on calendar and boom you have a sunbird interface instead [18:02] hi Zordrak :) [18:02] chii (i=chii@freenode/bot/chii) joined ##slackware. [18:02] O_o [18:02] y0 fredoslack [18:03] re hi fire|bird =) [18:03] hooooo [18:03] Zordrak, i've found your picture on the Web [18:03] lool [18:04] i'ts really you [18:04] yes [18:04] :p [18:04] In lightning, in top left corner, there is a mini calendar, yes. but it will only show one month. itd be nice if it could show months or a year [18:04] who want watch the picture of Zordrak ? [18:04] me ^-^ [18:04] ok [18:04] it's here >> [18:05] >>http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Ordinateur/0004.gif [18:05] loool [18:05] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:05] heh [18:05] i love these small heads :p [18:05] your damn smileys ^-^ [18:05] lool [18:05] uva_ (n=bno@118-160-168-185.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [18:06] français? [18:06] hiptobecubic, ouiii [18:06] slackytude: and to think he has 40 of them. :P [18:06] hiptobecubic, j'ai du mal avec l'anglais lool [18:06] lol fire|bird [18:06] fire|bird, freaky [18:06] fredoslack: wtf? [18:06] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-74-212-56-113-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:06] goddamn it... >.<; [18:06] :D [18:06] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-76-235-42-19.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:07] end of the school day and kids trying to print a bunch of shit in color... [18:07] heh [18:07] Necos, you admin at a school? [18:07] Necos: Can't you just issue the command to shut all the pc's in the school down? Or at least the printers. :P [18:08] Or, pop up a message on every screen "STOP PRINTING" [18:08] present for fire|bird > http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Langue/0019.gif [18:08] :p [18:08] of course they jam the damn printer because they're trying to change the paper [18:08] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [18:08] what are you talkin about fire|bird? i run cups + samba... it's as easy as going to the web interface :P [18:08] fredoslack: Wow, I look better online than in real life. :P [18:09] Necos: haha :) Just shut em down. [18:09] hiptobecubic: yeah, netadmin at my old high school [18:09] loooool fire|bird [18:09] Necos: sorry, was thinking back to my high school days with Windows. :P [18:09] are you trying to get Necos fired?> [18:09] http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9A763HO0&show_article=1 [18:09] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [18:09] we actually have the samba acls set so they can't use the color printers [18:10] Pig_Pen, smart move [18:10] man, seek is the dog's bollocks.. thank you so much [18:10] Necos, i wouldn't mind that job at mine. To bad i don't know ass about it. What kind of jackass studies bio at college? srsly.... [18:11] the usa should do that too [18:11] probably [18:14] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-160-166-209.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [18:15] lol hiptobecubic [18:16] macro_ (n=macro@bas2-montreal19-1177749799.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:16] Although, to be fair, i'm probably better than the turdbag that's doing it now. [18:16] macro (n=macro@bas2-montreal19-1177749799.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:16] well, this sort of fell in my lap, and it's kind of nice to give back, so to speak [18:16] My highschool is #9 http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/worst-of-2008-contenders.html [18:17] lol [18:17] They've since redone the page, thank god [18:17] but i wish i had mirrored the old one [18:17] it was UNUSABLE [18:17] chii (i=chii@freenode/bot/chii) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:17] Did they ever have Lemon Party pep rallies? [18:17] no sadly [18:17] chii (i=chii@freenode/bot/chii) joined ##slackware. [18:18] hmmm [18:18] brb [18:18] spicebird cant handle lightning import because the lightning in TB is too new [18:19] hiptobecubic, lemon. bay. high. school. surely it's a jest. [18:19] heh [18:19] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-156-188.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:19] dive, it is not. [18:19] The fighting manta rays [18:19] hheh [18:20] pretty FUCKING SCARY [18:20] my senior year, our football team went defeated [18:20] fighting manta rays? wtf,lol [18:22] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [18:24] I was just sitting outside eating an apple when I saw a huge butterfly. It was and awesome one...then a truck came down the street and smashed into it. [18:24] antiwire, thus is life [18:25] indeed [18:25] Shoulda stayed out of the road [18:25] nlhub (n=nlhub@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:25] slackytude, http://www.highschoolsports.net/images/logos/FL342245922.gif [18:25] I dont kill spiders.. unless they come in my house.. tghen its their own fault and they can frigging DIE [18:25] antiwire: lol. [18:25] I like spiders [18:25] uva (i=bno@118-160-168-185.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:25] hiptobecubic, heh [18:26] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:26] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:26] oddsock (n=oddsock@dynamic-250-205-23-217.broadband.blic.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:27] hiptobecubic: that's your logo? lo; [18:27] lol [18:27] pretty terrifying i know [18:27] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-168-235-42.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:27] lol [18:27] we used to threaten the other teams [18:27] with what? bad press? >.> [18:28] "YOU BETTER NOT BRING YOUR BOATS IN THIS HOUSE. WE'LL BUMP YOU SO HARD, GOD DAMN. YOU WILL LOSE YOUR BALANCE." [18:29] Then we'd raise our arms to the side and undulate around [18:29] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:30] It was also common to place the hands in front of the mouth to emulate scooping some (boneless) squid into our mouths [18:30] lol [18:30] My problem with KDE seems to be more serious than I thought. When I click the file browser applet on my panel, kicker hogs the cpu up to 100% and the panel becomes unusable. I have to kill kicker and restart it by hand... [18:31] hiptobecubic, man, thats pathetic [18:31] So thats where idiots live :P [18:31] :D [18:31] lol [18:32] always wondered where they were bred. [18:32] well, here's the school that i work for / graduated from: www.lahigh.org [18:32] design by some dipshits at Educational Networks [18:32] generic CMS ftl [18:32] It's tough to be scary when you're a boneless, toothless plankton eater. [18:33] Necos: i thought it was 420.com [18:33] I am thinking of jumping into Slack 13 with KDE 4 as soon as it comes. Until then, I need to be able to work with what I have (KDE 3.5.10) [18:33] i don't even smoke pot :P [18:33] i hate the look of kde3 apps... [18:33] samuelig (n=samuelig@62.pool85-57-151.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:33] and there is no way in hell i'm building 4 :P [18:33] Crux-2.6 is RC1 WooHoo!!! [18:34] this is rad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NN7UGWYmBY [18:34] eh, looks alright [18:34] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.60.188) joined ##slackware. [18:35] it looks cookie-cutter [18:35] which it is [18:35] I'll try making dolphin the default file manager. I don't even know if it is a good idea. [18:35] but the nice thing is we get unlimited storage / bandwidth for 3600 / yr [18:36] that, and i'm not responsible for it :P [18:37] kozandr (n=kozandr@92.243.174.247) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:38] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:38] ganeshix, #kde ? [18:39] anyone use k9copy? [18:40] The science channel is disassembling my laptop [18:41] hiptobecubic: really? [18:42] yeah, he donated it to scientific research :P [18:42] I use k9copy [18:42] haha [18:42] but i use the version that works on kde4 [18:42] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: "chao pajudos =P" [18:42] 2.3.2 [18:42] i was gonna ask if it was ported to kde4 lol [18:43] but by time i looked it up, i already found my answer [18:43] oo new version out 2.3.3 [18:43] antiwire: get the new version built, go go go. :P [18:43] http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=153798 <--- kde4? [18:44] looks like it [18:44] i have to admit, kde4 doesn't look nearly as disgusting as 3 >.> [18:45] I like kde4 even though it still feels slightly half baked [18:45] slackboy, yes, tnx. I'm there asking questions. [18:45] i still won't use it, but it's nice to see they're getting away from the cartoony-color look [18:45] slackytude, I'm there. [18:45] I'll look for a quick fix until I jump into Slack 13 [18:45] antiwire: interesting vid... [18:46] agentc0re|work: low budget SMD soldering! yay [18:46] antiwire: seems like a lot of work to do a 204 pin chip. [18:46] yeah [18:46] I actually worked in a place where my job was to solder [18:47] I don't think i could do that. [18:47] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:47] I had to make sure I ate often so I wouldn't be shaky [18:47] Ya i bet. [18:48] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:48] Action: Zordrak cannot stand to listen to americans pronouncing Solder as Sawder [18:48] or Saoderin [18:49] yeah and so-older sounds much better [18:49] Zordrak: shut it before i sawder your mouth shut! :P [18:49] the one who wins the war is allowed to dictate the language :) [18:49] lmao [18:49] hahahaha [18:50] Necos: btw, the SBo slackbuild won't work with the kde4 k9copy versions [18:50] antiwire: what do you mean.. it's simple.. soldier, but no I [18:50] Solder [18:50] they switch to cmake [18:50] wtf is with all these make programs anyway? [18:50] cmake, dmake, etc. etc [18:51] cmake is actually pretty cool [18:51] Cross-platform compilation systems [18:51] its all colorfull and stuffs :D [18:51] i dont understand the guts of them yet.. but they seempretty useful [18:52] the cmake man page will clear up a lot of the questions [18:52] it's actually helpful [18:52] i should read that someday :P [18:52] i think cmake is gaining popularity well, because autoconf was designed in the 7th ring of hell [18:52] the audacious build looks really cool [18:53] 11 days in prison for every person he killed.. *sigh* [18:53] it uses cmake as well, i believe [18:54] samuelig (n=samuelig@62.pool85-57-151.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [18:54] Nick change: jigpe -> jigp [18:56] nope, nevermind >.> [18:57] or maybe make calls cmake... i dunno, it's just cool looing with all the blue and green [18:57] fire|bird: http://tinyurl.com/l9hqfr .. guess it's not gonna happen (google calendar support in claws' vcal) (or at least not by the author) [18:57] sahder [18:58] http://www.apple.com/hotnews/apple-answers-fcc-questions/?sr=hotnews.rss LMAO!! read question one.. [18:58] "Contrary to published reports, Apple has not rejected the Google Voice application, and continues to study it." What is it a freaking alien? [18:59] ATT's involved in that too [18:59] there's nothing in 64-current right now that would break an RC1 installation, is there? [18:59] Zordrak: http://www.cooldictionary.com/say.mpl?phrase=solder+is+pronounced+solder&voice=male&q=aa.wav [18:59] =) [18:59] omfg lol [18:59] that's great [19:00] lol [19:00] that won't play for me in FF with mplayer plugin [19:00] agentc0re|work: but aren't there themse that rearrange icons? [19:00] *themes [19:00] BP{k}: nope, guess not. :P [19:01] sawder is pronouced sawder. [19:01] ooooh, apple is worried that google disables its visual voice mail... [19:01] fire|bird: unless you write it ;) [19:01] agentc0re|work regional inflection include "sah-der" also [19:01] sah-der-ing [19:01] BP{k}: If I had the know how, I would. :P [19:02] Necos: yup. [19:02] Necos: wow.. just wow.. Hrm. wonder if i can return my iphone. [19:02] return it to me [19:02] you can't base this on a u.k. dictionary. again, to the victor the spoils. american heritage dictionary or else. [19:02] heh [19:03] pohk the cah in cah-pert [19:03] bahston [19:03] pahk [19:04] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [19:04] lol [19:04] http://www.amazon.com/Puppies-Kittens-Blu-ray-Hendrik-Hogerzeil/dp/B002FKZ544/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1250895437&sr=1-14 [19:04] lol [19:04] LMAO!! [19:05] hey agentc0re|work... have you read the whole thing? [19:05] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:05] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-156-188.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [19:05] Necos: the apple news? No. i'm about to go home. [19:05] kator (n=chatzill@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:05] read part of it... and got pissed. [19:05] lol [19:05] looks like more bs. [19:05] apple is evil... but we already knew that [19:06] i love how they try and make themselves look good in the begining.. as if they needed to. [19:06] apparently, they're not consulting with att, but they're respecting their "contract" [19:06] apple or the window... which one is worse? hrmm.. [19:06] samuelig (n=samuelig@62.pool85-57-151.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:06] lol [19:06] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:06] OMFG LOL [19:07] throw the apple through the window. Two birds with one apple, the window will shatter and the apple will be just sliced pieces left. :P [19:07] is it a good idea to use slackware as a VPS ? my web host is offering it [19:07] kator: why not? [19:07] fire|bird: heheh [19:07] did you see the list of example rejected iphone apps? [19:07] kator: i use it for my linode server. [19:07] this one is GREAT!!!! [19:07] Lingerie Fantasy Video (Lite), by On The Go Girls, LLC, was initially rejected because it displayed nudity and explicit sexual content, but the developer subsequently fixed the application and it has been approved with the use of a 17+ age rating. [19:08] ok because some people tell it doesn't get updates etc... like debian [19:08] tell me* [19:08] they're a bunch of morons kator :) [19:08] http://www.cooldictionary.com/say.mpl?phrase=throw+the+apple+through+the+window.+two+birds+with+one+apple%2C+the+window+will+shatter+and+the+apple+will+be+just+sliced+pieces+left&voice=male&q=aa.wav [19:08] join the slackware-security mailing list [19:08] kator: I use slackware on my Linode. [19:08] Necos: hehe, how does slackware get security updates ? [19:08] kator: http://slackware.com/security/list.php?l=slackware-security&y=2009 [19:09] kator: ... if you don't know that maybe you should use something else? [19:09] BP{k} just told ya how ^_^ [19:09] http://www.cooldictionary.com/say.mpl?phrase=don%27t+be+such+an+ass+hat&voice=male&q=aa.wav [19:09] agentc0re|work: im trying to use slackware and was wondering if should use it as a vsp i never said i was going to use it right away [19:09] I'm going to make that thing say the whole timecube [19:09] kator, slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all [19:09] kator: Patrick releases them as inside the patches/ dir, and the mirrors synchornise. you then download the patches through various means and upgrade. [19:09] man, that name is great... why'd they even use "lite" in the name? [19:10] Lingerie Fantasy Video (Lite) [19:10] antiwire: LOL, some how i feel that was directed to wards me :/ [19:10] i want the pro version [19:10] lol [19:11] kator: Not trying to be mean. Just saying that if you don't know how to use it yet, i'd suggest first learning what you need to and then implement it. But that goes for everything. [19:12] agentc0re|work: of course :-) i would be crazy to use something i don't really have experience with:P [19:12] hmmmm... [19:12] http://tinyurl.com/laoly6 [19:12] timecube in android form [19:12] YEAH DAWG [19:12] LOL!! [19:13] i'm waiting while it loads. [19:13] hahahaha [19:13] as am i :P [19:13] thank you all for your help :D [19:13] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [19:13] that's what she said [19:13] lol [19:14] that was a low blow... [19:14] [in bed] [19:14] hehe [19:14] didn't load for me :( [19:14] heh, my limite is one per ever 10 mins [19:14] *limit [19:14] didn't load for me either. [19:15] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [19:15] agris (n=agris@213.226.141.192) joined ##slackware. [19:16] this awesome http://idle.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/08/19/1634233 [19:17] HE'S A NOOB [19:17] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:17] nice, I was just watching Modern Marvels, and the Japanese have toilets with heated seats. :P [19:17] -current is very stable right now, right? [19:18] .... [19:18] of course, it's on youtube... so i gotta use my cgi proxy >.> [19:18] adios [19:18] time to go home [19:18] later agentc0re|work [19:18] later agentc0re|work [19:18] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) left irc: "Leaving." [19:18] antiwire: hehehe [19:19] fire|bird : those must be the western style comodes. traditionally you don't sit on toilets there [19:19] YArrhhh [19:19] antiwire, hehe [19:19] i got all yee gold [19:19] ananke: probably. They're made by a company called ToTo [19:20] antiwire, great! [19:22] This relationship is headed for an epic fail young lady! [19:22] lol [19:23] you might as well date somebody who plays alliance [19:23] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:24] antiwire, gotta show that to my work mate [19:25] http://gizmodo.com/5342671/hide-your-porn-room-behind-a-staircase-for-ultimate-privacy [19:25] We don't date noobs, we pwn them! [19:26] aye! [19:26] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:27] good evening good slackers :-) [19:28] evening macavity [19:28] y0 macavity [19:29] heh.. i thought 13 would be out by now :P [19:29] Action: macavity graps the changelog [19:30] dErFz (n=derf@unaffiliated/derfz) joined ##slackware. [19:30] 12.9990 and counting [19:32] macro_ (n=macro@bas2-montreal19-1177749799.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:32] nyRednek (n=yosi@63.99.218.194) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:32] odd.. i was sure i was already at rc2, but apparently i still had the rwl packages of xorg et al [19:32] :) [19:33] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [19:34] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:35] rwl? [19:36] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [19:37] robby workman lebowsky [19:37] the dude [19:37] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:38] *rlw [19:38] Although I'm using dolphin as the file manager, my KDE keeps limping along. Now I can't empy the trash can. It can't be opened. [19:38] I'm getting more surprises. [19:38] O_O [19:39] I thought I had followed every instruction for the upgrade to 12.2... I may have made a mistake... my KDE just acts weird. [19:39] lol Camarade_Tux i didn't know that :P [19:39] I tried reinstalling kdebase, but no joy. [19:39] did you have a ~/.kde from KDE3 around when you upgraded? [19:39] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [19:39] try to kill your settings [19:39] linXea (n=esb@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lämnar" [19:39] I'm just thinking of wiping out everything and installing from scratch. [19:39] with fire [19:39] thrice`++ [19:39] no, don't reinstall [19:39] thrice`: i'd pay to see that :P [19:39] ganeshix: have you tried rm'ing your ~/.kde and ~/.config ? [19:39] back it up first [19:39] :) [19:39] jaher (n=nnscript@24-205-186-242.dhcp.azus.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:39] just mv it [19:39] we have consensus :P [19:40] mv .kde .kde_sucks and mv .kderc .kderc_sucks_more [19:40] everything went to hell when i upgraded the gf's box [19:40] .config is important to remove too [19:40] .. i had to kill half of .kde [19:40] antiwire, all ~/.kde? [19:40] or mv [19:40] mv is better [19:40] ganeshix: yes ~/.kde* and ~/.config [19:40] mv them or backup and rm [19:41] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:41] antiwire, I'll try that, thank you. [19:41] dngr (n=dngr@n11649134204.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [19:41] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:41] hmmm, anyone notice that mod-# works to switch windows in FF instead of ctrl-#? [19:41] switch tabs, rather [19:42] indeed it does. [19:44] one of my coworkers was using my comp and was like "how come i can't fastswitch tabs?" [19:44] is framebuffer support needed (in kernel) when using KMS ? [19:44] i always just use ctrl pgup pgdown [19:44] not sure if you still need to thrice` [19:44] hiptobecubic: i use ctrl+tab, but same thing [19:45] "the defendant, dave murphy, who calls himself zerocool" XD [19:45] hahaha [19:45] amazon10x: oh, a classic :-) [19:45] hackers [19:45] does alsa come built into the slackware kernel or is it a module [19:45] great movie! [19:45] module [19:45] i think it's a kernel module now [19:45] hiptobecubic: module [19:46] ok thanks [19:46] \o/ fastest [19:46] hiptobecubic: rather, several modules [19:46] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [19:46] hahaha, i think it's funny that everyone got that quote in this room [19:46] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [19:46] i just started the movie; haven't seen it in a long time; kinda excited [19:46] amazon10x, online or you have it local? [19:46] local [19:46] rats [19:46] grab it from usenet [19:47] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:47] hiptobecubic: zcat /proc/config.gz | grep SND [19:47] i'd send it to you, but my upload is crap here [19:48] no worries [19:48] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [19:49] thrice`: i dont know.. but i see intelfb say stuff in my dmesg, so i suspect that it is [19:50] thrice`: i did this: intelfb build in, vesafb left out, intel-agp build in, KMS on by default, and pretty much every other intel and graphics thing build in [19:50] intel onboard cards are pretty common these days :( [19:50] thrice`: now it boots directly to 1280x800 [19:51] Necos: s/:(/:)/ [19:51] macavity: yep, I left it in [19:51] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:51] Necos: finnaly they are starting to work as advertized for those of us who do not need heavy 3D [19:53] on a laptop, that's fine... on a desktop... no thanks [19:53] no need for KMS if you're using an fb [19:53] since Xorg can switch as if it's another text-based VT [19:54] unless your goal is rootless Xorg, I don't get it :| [19:54] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:54] of course there is a need, it's taking a load off your system [19:54] Hey macavity, how's it going? [19:54] ok - just insatlled 13RC2 (dtd yesterday) [19:55] In kde4 - how to tell the desktop that the synaptics driver has scroll wheel that will smove sliders? [19:55] NthDegree: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KernelModesetting is pretty good [19:55] alisonken1home: you need to do that in the xorg.conf [19:56] were rollerblades really this popular in 1995? or does this movie overstate it [19:56] alisonken1home: I had this same problem when I tried to use X without an xorg.conf [19:56] alisonken1home, this is what I use: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/lFQq0f40.html [19:56] I've added the X -configure xorg.conf with synaptics drver [19:57] hi everybody! someone knows how to configure the hal in slackware? [19:57] thrice`, the only beneficial one from that in the case where you already use a framebuffer of identical resolution to Xorg is graphical panic messages [19:57] i have a notebook and i would like a simple help... [19:57] just remember, this is an HP pavillion from several years ago that only goes to 1024x768 :) [19:57] alisonken1home: here's my whole section for my touch pad http://pastebin.com/m1365176 [19:57] thrice`, that said, it would do brilliantly for NVIDIA drivers (nvidiafb won't allow 3D or proprietary Xorg drivers) [19:58] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [19:58] ltbplinux, just ask [19:58] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:58] it's a good thing to offload to the kernel, though, than user space [19:59] then we can finally have bluescreens in linux! [19:59] pingooscreens! [19:59] slackytude: \o/ :P [19:59] y0 Camarade_Tux [19:59] dive: thanks, give it a try [20:00] yoyo fire|bird :) [20:00] Action: Camarade_Tux heading to bed ;) [20:00] night Camarade_Tux :P [20:00] nn [20:00] the next q. is "what is the akonadi server" and "why does it keep popping up about load problems?" [20:00] i would like to know how to configure my notebook buttons to work with hal in slackware. [20:01] NthDegree: KMS gives my a console in my screens native resolution, and it is instant fast at switching between X and console [20:01] no black screen inbetween? [20:01] :D [20:02] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [20:02] NthDegree: nope.. 1/10 of a seccond or less.. seriously [20:02] ooh nice ^^ [20:02] NthDegree: i litterally just blinked the first time and went "huh?.. ok, it cant be as fast *back* to X".. but it was :P [20:03] cool ^_^ [20:03] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [20:03] rootless X, graphical panic messages and faster VT switching sounds good [20:04] if someone know a good howto configure hal... i'm was searching and i didnt find a good for help me [20:04] also, what all the xf86-video-* drivers take advantage of it, we will be able to install /usr/bin/Xorg without suid root [20:04] ltbplinux, you mean special buttons? thats more apic stuff [20:04] ltbplinux, welcome to complexity ;) [20:04] ltbplinux, just google for your laptop [20:04] Action: NthDegree hates HAL but loves it to the same time [20:05] oh, and installing Xorg without special priviledges is *not* the same as "rootless X" [20:05] macavity, that's debatable to some extent :P [20:05] if graphics gets pwned you're still rooted either way [20:06] slackytude, in /etc/hal/fdi exist there are some empty directories... and in /usr/share/hal/fdi/ there are directories with directories and files... [20:06] ltbplinux, yes [20:06] i would like to know how to proceed with this... i need to put the files configuration in /etc/hal/... [20:06] hal is a piece of shit [20:06] macavity, although most people think Xorg doesn't run as root because it shows as their own user >_> [20:06] thrice`, i'm lookin' [20:06] ltbplinux, /etc/hal is local, it will overrule stuff /usr [20:07] gah [20:07] too tired [20:07] slackytude, ok. [20:07] Action: slackytude goes to sleep [20:07] night slackytude [20:07] night ^-^ [20:07] eeek [20:07] nn [20:07] slackytude, you know some tutorial ... [20:08] a rootless X server has traditionally been an xserver that did not need to grap the root window :-/ [20:08] i was looking for in google but i didnt find a good [20:09] macavity, or a modified X server which kept the log file open and enough capabilities which makes it as good as root anyway ;-p [20:10] macavity, or a root-process-that-isnt-X-that-communicates-with-X plus Xorg running under a limited user :P [20:10] that is apparently what "rootless" has come to mean in the X jargon.. [20:11] but, back when no one questioned the nessesity of having X installed suid root, "rootless" used to mean something intirely different [20:11] hahah [20:11] as in "pretend not to be root, so no-one will notice" [20:11] nope [20:12] it used to be "one server on top of the other" [20:12] like xnest [20:12] O_O [20:12] NthDegree, the directory information... the hal deamon reads the confs from there too or only from policy [20:12] i dont know what each directory means for hal... [20:13] macavity, seriously? O_O [20:14] macavity, am I glad OpenBSD made privsepped X then lol [20:14] a long while ago I used OBSD as my main system, since it was more stable than any other system I had used at the time [20:15] brb [20:15] ltbplinux, don't ask me about HAL configuration... I try to set up systems without it for most people [20:16] (i.e. a lot of noauto fstab entries and a proper xorg.conf) [20:16] mjwalfredo (n=mark@c-24-62-51-182.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] ok. tnks [20:18] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@63.99.218.194) joined ##slackware. [20:19] btw, KDE4.3 will get the "i can select *which* kinds of files i want previews on" feature back :-) [20:19] err.. s/will get/got/ [20:19] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [20:19] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:20] macavity: Did you build kde 4.3? 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[20:26] Action: TwinReverb stabs edman007 "mourning too much" [20:26] Action: TwinReverb stabs macavity for giving everyone bad news [20:26] Action: edman007 bites TwinReverb [20:26] Action: TwinReverb stabs fire|bird for asking the question [20:26] Action: TwinReverb stabs edman007 again [20:26] lol >8-) [20:26] Action: edman007 bleeds all over TwinReverb [20:27] chloros (i=taqois@111.69.242.89) joined ##slackware. [20:27] macavity: I built it and have used it since it came out, but am going back to 4.2.4 right now, it works nice, but it'd open two instances of one app, etc. so, for now, I'm going back. It's probably just something I did wrong during build or something. :P [20:27] Action: fire|bird shoots TwinReverb in the foot for stabbing him. [20:28] lol facebook "don't close this browser window until the upload is complete" [20:28] Action: TwinReverb imitates a windows luser "omg! i need to reboot! what do i do now?!" [20:28] v4nelle (n=van@78-115-11.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [20:29] Action: TwinReverb queues RAtM "killing in the name" [20:30] mjwalfredo (n=mark@c-24-62-51-182.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving." [20:31] chloros (i=taqois@111.69.242.89) left ##slackware. [20:31] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:33] TwinReverb, want to really be like a Windows user? :P [20:33] I'm a windows user [20:33] TwinReverb: excelent choice of music sir :P [20:33] I'm about to see how badly I can screw up my system with grsecurity [20:33] Many wintards believe that a reboot means to reinstall the OS [20:33] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [20:33] I support windows networks... [20:33] straterra: uhm, since you use gentoo and a three disk raid0 you dont count ;-) [20:34] as opposed to 'restarting the computer' [20:34] NthDegree, heck no [20:34] I only run Gentoo on my VPS [20:34] NthDegree: on windows both are equally likely to fix your problem :P [20:34] Hal, mount the device in the old place and open it... 'I am sorry Dave, I cannot do that.' [20:34] And both my home and work machines are a 2 disk raid-0 tyvm [20:34] TwinReverb, hell yeah! I'll record a few on my MP3 player some time ;-p [20:34] I just added another 4GB to the work machine [20:35] i'm not into rage against the machine at all, i am only citing "'cause you do what they told ya" [20:35] hmm - frequency scaling on kde4 won't let me change frequencies - and it's stuck at 530MHz [20:35] artv61 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [20:35] ouch [20:35] alisonken1home, did you give their laptop daemon root permissions? [20:35] I was logged in as root to do initial setups [20:35] besides which, why would you want to manually change frequencies? make ondemand the default in kernel and be done with it [20:35] bleh brb [20:35] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [20:36] except 'On Demand' seems to keep it at 530M even when plugged in to the wall [20:37] alisonken1home, then set it up correctly [20:37] don't use KDE to do it, use sysfs directly [20:37] still doing setups :) [20:38] gonna take a few days to learn the differences betweh 12.0 and 13RC2 (besides kde3->kde4) [20:38] 530MHz is fast [20:39] on a 1.2G machine? [20:39] although it does seem to be fast enough even in kde4 - along with cube effects and fades enabled [20:39] alisonken1home: on demand doesn't look at if its plugged in [20:40] ondemand looks at CPU usage [20:40] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [20:40] compile something..or do cat /dev/urandom > /dev/null [20:40] Run one of those for every core you have [20:40] It should jump up [20:40] van (n=van@78-115-11.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [20:40] v4nelle (n=van@78-115-11.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [20:40] for nick in `ls ##slackware | grep -v quasar` ; do kill -9 $nick ; done [20:40] also it operates independently of each core too [20:40] NthDegree: if the CPU supports it..not all do [20:40] one core can be ondemand, while others can be performance or conservative or userspace [20:40] van (n=van@78-115-11.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:40] v4nelle (n=van@78-115-11.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [20:40] old HP laptop pavillion - single core 512M ram 1.2G processor [20:41] ltbplinux (n=ltbplinu@187.36.70.146) left irc: "Saindo" [20:41] So..run that and check your frequency while its running [20:41] alisonken1home, then it's probably working correctly, 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' while CPU usage is ~100% [20:41] maybe later - that was a side trip while trying to learn configurations [20:41] if you want it to change depending on power conditions..set it to userland and use lm-sensors [20:43] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.128.90) left irc: "Leaving." [20:44] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:44] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [20:46] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.60.188) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [20:46] john_dee (n=id@93-81-71-163.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [20:49] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [20:49] is there any way to get mplayer to produce videos that facebook likes, or that matter, that any application likes? [20:49] hi is it too late to setup /home for its own partition? [20:49] missyjane, no, you can do it, it will just take some "surgery" [20:49] hm is it going to be difficult? [20:49] TwinReverb: mencoder [20:49] or ffmpeg [20:49] its a bit early to be going home on a friday night [20:49] straterra, duh. what options? [20:50] the ones man ffmpeg describes [20:50] the process is usually 1) copy everything from /home to some other partition or device, 2) create where /home is going to be (the partition, or whatever), 3) edit fstab, 4) mount [20:50] 5) copy back the information [20:51] straterra, thrice` i'll try ffmpeg next time, thanks [20:51] or handbrake [20:51] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:51] But..uh..good luck compiling it [20:51] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.156.96) joined ##slackware. [20:51] yeah the only people i've seen successfully running it are mac users [20:52] And me [20:52] TwinReverb, oh yikes hm.. [20:52] and thrice` [20:52] missyjane, can you give us more information as to what you are using? [20:52] er doing? [20:53] what am i doing? nothing atm, just thinking about setting up a partition for /home the next time i install slackware [20:53] oh [20:53] Why don't you use LVM next time? [20:53] that may be above her knowledge [20:53] but it's a good idea nonetheless [20:53] Action: straterra coughs [20:54] mjwalfredo (n=mark@c-24-62-51-182.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:54] missyjane: http://tinyurl.com/ckwp5p [20:54] not funny straterra, i dont like clicking tinyurl links [20:54] and i was afk for a bit to get something [20:54] regardless of LVM, i'll make sure people understand that you can't just "use LVM" and your problems disappear. if the filesystems you use don't support shrinking, it won't matter that you use LVM if you need to shrink something [20:54] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:55] uh..why? [20:55] the only one i am aware of that supports shrink is ReiserFS [20:55] Use preview if you're that concerned [20:55] TwinReverb: ext does too [20:55] :o Linux xxxxx 2.6.29.6-grsec #2 SMP PREEMPT Fri Aug 21 17:35:36 PDT 2009 i686 Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [20:55] straterra, ext4? [20:55] But..if you are going to be such a little girl.. here http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lvm [20:55] TwinReverb: I believe to [20:55] so^ [20:55] why would you need to shorturl that? [20:55] tomekh (n=user@ebl170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) left ##slackware. [20:55] last i checked it was only ext2 but i'll check again [20:55] Because? [20:56] I wanted to [20:56] NthDegree (n=mhare@88-107-156-188.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:56] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:56] straterra: haha very funny [20:56] http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php [20:56] Glegnar (n=glegnar@host86-164-209-1.range86-164.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:56] cool, ext4 does support shrink [20:57] Action: TwinReverb is very happy to know that [20:57] yikes ntfs support everything [20:57] isn't the point of LVM that it doesn't matter which FS it is? [20:57] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.33.149) joined ##slackware. [20:57] kator (n=chatzill@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]" [20:57] And to easily move around available data [20:57] thrice`, not necessarily, it's FS agnostic but i was pointing out that if you slap XFS on there and then want to shrink one while growing another, you won't be able to shrink something that contains XFS (for example) [20:58] well..space, not data [20:58] LVM doesn't care what FS you use, but if you shrink a FS that doesn't support shrinking, you're going to corrupt stuff [20:58] really? [20:58] LVM is just a non-literal way of handling partitions (i.e. logical versus physical) [20:59] at this point i'm probably quoting wiki so i'll stop here but consider reading the wiki [20:59] test [20:59] http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/csgfs/browse/4.6/Cluster_Logical_Volume_Manager/images/overview/basic-lvm-volume.png [20:59] this image ^^ probably sums it up best [20:59] the fun part of LVM is you can expand onto other physical volumes [21:00] hm [21:00] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [21:00] for example: accidentally run out of space? if you have a free 16GB USB stick, slap it in, add it to the pool, move around what you needed to move, then when you finish, remove it from the pool and unplug it [21:00] i've had to do that once before (on accident) lol 8-S [21:01] TwinReverb, thank you so much [21:01] on desktops it's the bomb: add a hard drive? just add it to the pool and then extend your /home. a lot simpler than moving files and partitions around (non-LVM) [21:02] missyjane, no problem. is this a laptop? [21:02] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.137.110) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:03] PiterPunk, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/boost-slackpkg-upgrade-all-performance-749412/ [21:03] TwinReverb, nope desktop, the pc im on right now [21:03] slackware 14?! [21:03] oh [21:03] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-22-53.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: "upgrading" [21:04] lol talk is cheap, from china, oh the irony [21:05] Action: TwinReverb could swear the pvremove function knows that data needs to be moved off the physical volume before it can be removed [21:05] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:07] jaher (n=nnscript@24-205-186-242.dhcp.azus.ca.charter.com) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [21:07] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:08] wow.. OpenGL 3.2 specs out! [21:08] i have been offline for far far too long :P [21:09] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:09] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:10] yes, behind the times [21:10] Action: TwinReverb wonders how interesting it would be to move stuff around on LVM if this is a RAID setup [21:14] nyRednek (n=yosi@63.99.218.194) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:14] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-22-53.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:15] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@63.99.218.194) joined ##slackware. [21:15] Nick change: AnonymousRednek -> nyRednek [21:16] is txz some sort of new format for packages? [21:16] yes [21:17] does upgradepkg not like it or something? I'm trying to go from 12.1 to -current and I can't follow the directions because of it [21:17] raela: view -curent changelog down a few days to see why [21:17] hehe raela i asked that question too a while then [21:17] raela, you will need install xz and pkgtools manually [21:18] this is the beginning of else "wtf are txz files" [21:18] else/endless [21:18] wtf are txz files? [21:19] I thought it was my laptop giving me even more hate [21:19] I swear, this is the most spiteful computer.. [21:19] awww... :) mine loves me [21:19] missyjane: tgz packages that use a different algorythm (increased compression for smaller packages) [21:20] mine is informally known as fickle bitch. I think more things work improperly than things go right. I even gave it to my brother for a few weeks so he could try to get things working [21:20] ugh, so how would I manually install the xz and pkgtools? do I need to download the source, or can I decompress from what I have [21:21] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.33.149) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:21] forget RAID ... SLED FTW 8-) [21:22] ... xz is a tgz [21:22] alright [21:22] installpkg xz and upgradepkg to pkgtools [21:22] Action: TwinReverb wonders why people even bother upgrading between more than one version of slackware (i.e. 9.0 -> 10.0 etc) [21:22] and xz is NOT a tgz [21:22] it is a slackware package but it is NOT a tgz [21:22] excuse me? [21:22] different compression method altogether [21:22] TwinReverb: I'm lazy about upgrades but I was told my video card drivers should work if I do [21:22] xz-4.999.8beta-i486-1.tgz [21:23] ... [21:23] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [21:23] txz != tgz. both are slackware packages (or can be, see other uses of those extensions) but one uses a different compression/decompression (LZMA versus GZip) [21:24] TwinReverb: he was saying the file I need to install is .tgz [21:24] are you missing something i typed? (2009-08-21 18:22:09) antiwire: ... xz is a tgz [21:24] ah [21:24] she asked how to install it. [21:24] antiwire he means .tgz is not .txz but i think raela can use that file as if it was tgz (since it is) but then later on raela would need something else for txz [21:24] pireau (i=chaos@208.92.18.78) joined ##slackware. [21:24] yeah [21:24] nevermind, i see what happened now 8-S [21:24] ... [21:24] alright, thanks [21:24] TwinReverb, i did that.. i lost backups.. i basically went from 12.1 to current with slackpkg [21:25] sol (n=sol@12.53.192.186) joined ##slackware. [21:25] Nick change: sol -> Guest26691 [21:25] Nick change: Guest26691 -> ben [21:25] I think I hopped from 11 to 12 on one of my computers. I don't keep current [21:25] Nick change: ben -> Guest82653 [21:26] chris2 (n=chris@dslb-094-216-076-116.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:26] dangit i hate MySpace [21:27] want to log into it but i'm in an unsecured wireless location ... don't know who may be listening in [21:27] no SSL login for MySpace = the way some people get their accounts jacked [21:28] TwinReverb, have you tried just sticking a https in the url? [21:29] edman007, lol wont work [21:29] TwinReverb, why myspace? [21:29] no? [21:29] Action: edman007 checks [21:29] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.17.160) joined ##slackware. [21:29] edman007, yeah last time i did it didn't load [21:29] you can do that with facebook though [21:29] TwinReverb,
[21:30] it is https, what are you talking about? [21:30] huh? [21:30] hmm [21:30] lol [21:31] just because the page with the form is not ssl does not mean the form is not encrypted, you need to use the source luke to see if hitting the submit button will use ssl [21:31] login is ssl, other traffic after the login isn't [21:32] well at least i was assuming it wasn't, better than assuming it was 8-) [21:32] TwinReverb, but anyways, why do you need to go on geocities 2.0? [21:32] van (n=van@78-115-11.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [21:32] van (n=van@78-115-11.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:32] because my wife uses it. i rarely need to use it anyways. she's not a facebook person so oh well [21:32] eww [21:32] van (n=van@78-115-11.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [21:32] van (n=van@78-115-11.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:32] bring a condom [21:33] that supermodel that was killed is ugly [21:33] sorry to say [21:33] really ugly [21:33] the login process is really the least of your worries with myspace [21:33] not a supermodel but whatever [21:33] link? [21:33] i need to judge [21:33] google.com swimsuit model [21:33] or some shit [21:33] death [21:34] jeev that supermodel is beautiful [21:34] no you don't [21:34] no she's not [21:34] she has one ugly ass face [21:34] ok [21:34] one of the ugliest faces i've seen on a great body [21:34] well i think she is really pretty [21:34] but she had fake tits [21:34] missyjane, not everyone wants a real doll [21:34] she's not a doll man her face looks alien [21:34] edman007, lol she looks beautiful [21:34] sometimes its better to have a real person [21:34] "i'm a real doll!" lol [21:34] missyjane, she is plastic [21:34] they identified her from the serial number on her tits [21:35] she had a disgusting face, im sorry [21:35] Action: TwinReverb prefers real people regardless of their appearance [21:35] http://www.cbsnews.com/elements/2009/08/21/crimesider/photoessay5257656.shtml her right? [21:35] her face was all fake too [21:35] if so, she is pretty [21:35] yea, that's a nasty pic but better than most [21:35] waaayyyy too much plastic surgery, probably got run over by a lawnmower as a kid [21:35] jeev, i see what your saying, she is one of those chics that had so much plastic surgery that she no longer looked natural anymore [21:35] you can keep that plastic girl [21:36] edman007, uh a friend of mine's brother got ran over by a riding lawn mower ... the results were not pretty [21:36] RipVanWinkle, yup [21:36] i prefer a girl without plastic surgery, and, if possible, without makeup [21:36] RipVanWinkle, her faace is just nasty [21:36] i don care about fake tits [21:36] my friend found a cellphone that contained sauce pictures if the owner \o/ [21:36] of* [21:36] lol [21:36] http://www.cbsnews.com/elements/2009/08/21/crimesider/photoessay5257656_1_2_photo.shtml?tag=page [21:36] internet tough guys [21:36] ok [21:36] but her face was disgusting. feeel bad to talk to her, she was dismembered and stuff [21:36] but not hot at all [21:36] her face has a lot of plastic surgery [21:36] and an inch of makeup [21:37] nothing that some turpentine can't fix [21:37] yea it's disgusting [21:37] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:37] she didn't deserve to be killed, but i wouldn't have been interested in her in life [21:37] i yell at my girlfriend when she wears make up [21:37] she's so beautiful without it, natural skin, [21:37] i hope that never changes lol [21:37] yea nobody deserves to be killed [21:37] tell g.w. bush that [21:37] here we go [21:37] queue political rant in 5...4...3..2..1 [21:38] there is a convience store in town where this 40ish woman works and she had a boob job, she has the tits of a teenager while the rest of her is middle aged, she is always wearing low tops showing cleavage, she might think she is sexy but to me it looks foolish, i prefer em natural [21:38] you'll soon need to tell obama that...he'll be forced into a war that bush only had wet dreams about [21:38] if i'm gonna sex them, i dont care [21:38] if i'm gonna love them, they best be natural [21:38] nyRednek, i know. he's there forced [21:38] brb [21:40] jeev, every wartime leader develops a hard-on for death...obama will soon [21:40] edwin brown -war www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8C4AIFgUg [21:45] mjwalfredo (n=mark@c-24-62-51-182.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [21:47] this is awesome http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/sslscan/sslscan/sslscan%201.8.0/sslscan-1.8.0.tgz?use_mirror=softlayer [21:48] http://sourceforge.net/projects/sslscan/ [21:48] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.164.231.193) joined ##slackware. [21:55] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [22:00] i want to know how they get so good at hiding their true feelings for photos all the time. i can't imagine how the feeling you get when smiling when you don't want to smile is something you'd want to experience 24/7. [22:02] it's called going to work [22:02] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:03] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:04] but to live like a living plastic doll 24/7? screw that [22:04] nyRednek, doubt it [22:04] i bet they're DYING to go somewhere they are not known, or even some place just by themselves, just to have fun [22:04] TwinReverb, girls who are always doing that are dead inside [22:05] they tend to party 24/7 and burn out on ddays which they dont have anything to do [22:05] TwinReverb, as a former model i can tell you "it depends" [22:05] then they hit rock bottom [22:05] thats untrue jeev [22:05] stop speaking out of your ass [22:05] what's with all the psycho-analysis everywhere? [22:05] antiwire, lol everybody hates work [22:05] missyjane, n [22:05] missyjane, negative [22:05] Quiznos, no idea but there is a lot of patriarchism in here [22:05] jeev uh you dont know what you are talking about [22:05] ok [22:05] i'm right, i know what i'm talking about [22:06] linux linux linux [22:06] hitest (n=hitest@64.114.226.226) joined ##slackware. [22:06] girls who get that much work done have terrible days when they have time to think about it [22:06] Slackware S L A C K W A R E [22:06] potatos [22:06] potatoes [22:06] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:06] :> [22:07] yummy [22:07] linux linux linux [22:07] missyjane: let me get this straight. You're going from 22, never had a job, to now a former model? [22:08] chopp job ! = modeling [22:08] being in show business, being an artist, etc is not a job [22:08] most models, artists, etc starve [22:08] most folks with a job dont [22:08] we get the point [22:08] now, both of you, go fix some bugs [22:08] chopp i like how people take things out of context, take things to the extreme, etc [22:09] i dont usually [22:09] it works on the internet, the only place where i can find someone who is a ITG [22:09] Quiznos, im being sarcastic, sorry [22:09] itg? [22:09] missyjane ok [22:09] whatever...carry on [22:09] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:10] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A73D6A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:10] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:10] for example, finding contracts in the show business, entertainment shows, etc are completelyl different from regular employment, fact of the matter is, the form to file tax is different, you call portfolio in entertainment while its called resume in employment (generally speaking) [22:10] whereas in regular employment, it doesnt matter what industry, its almost always the same (w-2, interviews, etc) [22:11] actors dont generally say "yeah i got a job to do" lol keanu reeve isnt going to say "my job is to smile at work, wave to people, and act" [22:11] macavity: did you miss this stuff? :P [22:11] god and methodical acting is a pita [22:12] method acting? [22:12] yep [22:12] or hehaving in a regular and predictable way? [22:12] no [22:12] and you have schools to teach you that? WHAT? [22:12] k [22:12] method acting is where they can act even outside of the scene [22:12] God's a PITA :) [22:12] isBEKaml, not really taught, but it depends [22:12] there are modeling schools too [22:13] hba (n=hba@189.188.200.170) joined ##slackware. [22:13] lol, no he aint [22:13] no he aint what? [22:13] God's a PITA :) lol, no he aint [22:13] are you talking to yourself? [22:14] heh [22:14] i need a puppy [22:14] for an audience [22:15] I just kind of find it strange that there are schools that you teach you what they call "method acting".... hmmm [22:15] no no [22:15] they have school that teach how to act and model [22:15] I just thought acting was acting.. [22:15] method acting is just a technique [22:15] no, there are things you have to learn [22:16] like how to act with or in a certain role [22:16] how to exaggerate and how not to, what angle to stand when facing the camera, etc [22:16] how to develop facial muscles, what kind of looks you need to pull off, how to cry on queue (yes cry on queue) [22:16] >_< [22:16] can anyone suggest a value gigabit switch? 24 port with some management, wont be any ip routing done but would love 64bit counters for snmp [22:16] lots of people think this shit is easy, its hard as hell, thats why entertainers get paid millions and they deserve it [22:17] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:18] this is why women love brad pitt, he is god, if microsoft is bill gates and linux is linus torvald, then brad pitt is acting [22:18] women are turds [22:18] or acting has brad pitt, people underestimate how good and how much efforts actors, entertainers, modelers have to put into to get to where they are, its NOT a job (just like joining a military isnt a job), regular employment != NEVER mix it with entertainment show or military [22:19] go fuck yourself jeev [22:19] if you were being raped by a prison inmate escape i wouldnt even call 911 [22:19] Action: antiwire gets popcorn [22:19] Action: fire|bird gets the soda [22:19] lol [22:19] im going to bed soon, see ya [22:20] Action: Quiznos gets the tissue box [22:20] where's the box? [22:20] Action: isBEKaml reaches for 2L coke... [22:20] Action: missyjane facepalms [22:20] Quiznos: It's not a chick flick for gosh sack, put that tissue box away. :P [22:20] sake [22:20] you guys suck [22:20] |alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:20] dngr (n=dngr@n11649134204.netvigator.com) left irc: "disconnecting from stoned server." [22:21] dngr (n=dngr@n11649134204.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [22:21] maybe, we just find it odd to discuss entertainment itself! :P [22:21] isBEKaml, because people like jeev think they know whats going on when entertainers do what they do [22:21] |alisonken1churc evening [22:21] stupid retarded people go "oh i hate plastic dolls", yet are the same people that buy movie tickets to watch them [22:21] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:22] i dont goto theatre [22:22] people turn into plastic dolls because we, the people with "regular jobs" pay for them (this is for you chopps) [22:22] ok you pirate them [22:22] Not me. I don't have a tv feed and I never go to the movies [22:22] antiwire: no tv at all? [22:22] ok, millions of other people [22:22] none [22:22] ooo; kitty has claws :) [22:22] antiwire: cool [22:22] i literally removed my tv too [22:22] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:22] it's gone [22:23] missyjane: I don't own a TV and I don't go to theatre. Ok, granted,it's been a long time since I watched a movie... :) [22:23] "i hate plastic girls *jerks off to porn with plastic girls*" <--- jeev and your average folks here [22:23] isBEKaml, dont care, you people dont represent the entire population (for the same reason slackware users do not represent linux population) [22:23] the internet is for porn! [22:24] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [22:24] TwinReverb drama-zone ahead... [22:24] i end with this: http://api.ning.com/files/CN3s74alOU6l3KVZdTsjMbtxoSbK8kTDoHnOwsgFY9AwjEk-kwkjViWrFLdNnD303ImywmEx9auGZWjRlfyM**vknhSgCDPI/InternetToughGuy.jpg yes you, all of you [22:24] wazzit? [22:24] Action: quasar goes back to trying to figure out why printf wont with tmp.length() [22:24] missyjane: sfw? [22:24] yes sfw [22:24] quasar me too; wazit? [22:24] safe for work [22:24] ROFL [22:25] missyjane, have you ever had plastic surgery? [22:25] TwinReverb, no [22:25] that even looks like me -_- [22:25] lol [22:25] wait a second...that IS me [22:25] wtf [22:26] except.. I dont have BCGs [22:26] then you do not understand the lifestyle to which we were referring (i'm glad you don't, in fact: that means you're still REAL 8-) [22:26] quasar whats your prob? [22:26] that might even be you :) internet fighting god, holy shit, bet your wife is hotter than paris hilton, makes more money than the clintons, more famous than.. i dont know, when britney spears shaved her head [22:26] hm? [22:26] printf? [22:26] oh [22:26] TwinReverb, are you even reading what i just said? [22:26] did you just enter the conversation? [22:26] he did jane [22:26] ut oh we have a Donny situation [22:27] how do i not know? ive known plenty of people who had plastic surgery [22:27] lol [22:27] I've got a string that wont show the size with printf("the string is %i characters",tmp.length()) (with %i or %d and tmp is a string) [22:27] v4nelle (n=van@78-115-11.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:27] er, it does.. but it shows 0 [22:27] quasar i thar %n was the len cmd [22:27] thar/thawt [22:27] Action: quasar tries [22:27] quasar: is it properly null terminated? [22:27] macavity: doubt it [22:28] in fact, no [22:28] quasar %i%n [22:28] missyjane, no because my internet here sucks and so i get these obscenely large ping timeouts [22:28] Quiznos: %n gives segfault [22:28] quasar: then it is not a string :P [22:28] quasar: then it is an array of chars [22:28] quasar ok tell again what you want? (c|c++?) [22:28] c++ [22:28] k [22:28] i'm just saying there's a difference between modeling and trying to look like Barbie [22:28] tmp.length() gives that away [22:28] but printf has its own len func [22:29] TwinReverb: whatever... take it to OT [22:29] but printf isnt c++ [22:29] it's in c { namespace} [22:29] macavity: actually.. if the function that set the string is a string function does it append the \0? [22:29] and you should not mix C and C++ [22:29] quasar yea like, cout << s << ... [22:29] danc3, 8-P [22:29] i dont know much about C++ [22:29] try what Quiznos says [22:30] i dont like c++'s obj structure [22:30] i dont like C++ [22:30] frankly i dont like java or C# either... im just a C kinda guy :P [22:30] it's all just symtab really. [22:30] me too [22:30] smallc [22:30] heh [22:31] grouper (n=grouper@ip68-105-173-2.ga.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:31] fish!!! [22:31] get the bat! [22:31] sharks!!! [22:31] where? [22:31] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:31] ppl eat sharks [22:31] i guess my GNU facination shines through here.. i even have spaces between function names and the parameter list [22:31] i swear i saw one [22:31] look [22:31] macavity ew [22:31] damn right i jerk off to plastic girls [22:31] function names are just pointers [22:31] desnt mean shit [22:31] woops [22:31] Nick change: Quiznos -> shaTrk [22:31] swimming [22:32] lol [22:32] and the parameter list is pushed on to the stack [22:32] Nick change: shaTrk -> Quiznos [22:32] missyjane, you're a freak.. you're probably a 580 lb internet girl who makes everyone goo goo cause they think you're hot [22:32] macavity that's wrong; funnames are not pointers [22:32] i'v got news for you, my right big toe is cuter than you [22:32] is there some place i can go read specifically about power-saving hardware features and the corrosponding kernel modules? [22:32] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [22:32] whats up [22:32] that's hawt [22:32] TMI TMI TMI [22:32] Quiznos: actually they are.. from the compilers point of view [22:32] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] macavity no; they are adress labels if anything at runtime [22:33] offsets within a code segment [22:33] cout << tmp.length(); is returning with 0 also, so I'm going to guess that string functions dont append the \0 if you happen to forget it [22:33] grouper, not sure, but powertop might help out a bit [22:33] quasar you dint give length() the vector name [22:33] (s) [22:33] grouper, did you have a specific question? [22:33] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:33] iirc you can cast function names to generic pointers [22:33] or is tmp=s? [22:34] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [22:34] macavity that's when you're dealing with (*fp)() [22:34] not really, i'm just planning on installing slackware on my laptop soon and i don't want it to run the battery down in 20 minutes [22:34] plain names are not pointers [22:34] TwinReverb, so you just entered the conversation, ok well im not gonna say it again [22:34] grouper, it normally won't, but it depends on how you use it and such [22:35] missyjane, 8-( you can talk to me on ##slackofftopic any time though [22:35] damn right i jerk off to plastic girls <=== precisely my point [22:35] yuck [22:35] i'll check out powertop though [22:35] missyjane, you're a freak.. you're probably a 580 lb internet girl who makes everyone goo goo cause they think you're hot <=== you lose [22:36] don't i need to load certain kernel modules to support power saving features of my laptop? [22:36] there are exactly two people in here who can praise their respective diety that i dont have ops.... [22:36] quasar: We don't do tmp.length() in C, right? Or are we speaking about C++? [22:36] it's c++ [22:36] ilose, ok [22:36] macavity, but you can always ask #freenode if it comes down to it [22:36] c++ [22:36] grouper, on my laptop i find the best life in setting stuff like hard drive spin down, ejecting all thins that can be ejected, and maybe a small bit of kernel tuning [22:36] but quasar is mixing c and c++ styles of coding and syntax [22:37] missyjane: you are one of them... because you just bloody cant learn to /ignore him you just act as an amplifier [22:37] Quiznos: yeah, I've been trying to differentiate.. cplusplus.com isn't very good about keeping the two seperate in their tutorials -_- [22:37] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:37] I believe quasar is using the proper namespaces in C++, but again mixing styles is just too bad... [22:37] macavity, because if i didnt defend myself, some of you would take it as if i am accepting it, then someday it will come back to bite me because some of you will take shit out of context [22:37] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:38] <|alisonken1churc> ok - for kde4 synaptics, how do I enable tapping on the pad to simulate enter/left click? [22:38] missyjane: wrong.. in my 10 years experience with this community i have *never* seen it backfire to just ignore the idiots [22:38] |alisonken1churc: did you see my section paste way back there? [22:38] its not as simple as "just ignore" [22:38] macavity, no YOU are wrong [22:38] <|alisonken1churc> antiwire: already installed [22:38] i have logs and screenshots to prove this too [22:39] missyjane: then you are not ignoring hard enough :P [22:39] <|alisonken1churc> scrolling works, but not the tap-click function [22:39] in fact, even #freenode folks told me there have been case like this, this is why i have been keeping evidence [22:39] |alisonken1churc: it should make tap to click work, it does for me but there could be model differences [22:39] just to protect myself (oh and keep in mind folks, everything you say bad to me is actually evidence i can use against you in court) [22:39] yeah well the same works in reverse... [22:40] hey, all i said was women are turds, sehe told me to go fuck myself [22:40] <|alisonken1churc> the only difference is I use /dev/input/mice rather than /dev/psaux [22:40] so dont look at me like i'm the suspect here [22:40] so stalking, internet bullying, etc = bad [22:40] missyjane: just one question then.. why is it so often you i see in a mouthfight with some other lamer? [22:40] quasar ok; according to printf.3, %n IS the proper code to get a count of chars printed. [22:40] |alisonken1churc: that's not my config you're looking that then [22:40] macavity, because i get offended easily [22:41] quasar why it's not working for you is unknown; maybe you dint make a proper namespace for the c code? [22:41] |alisonken1churc: I use dev input for my touchpad [22:41] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.164.231.193) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:41] hey, all i said was women are turds, sehe told me to go fuck myself <=== dont see the irony? how about if i say all men are pos? [22:41] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [22:41] missyjane: my point exactly... so YOUR personality adds to the noise because you dont just STFU and use /ignore when someone says something you dont like [22:41] <|alisonken1churc> antiwire: the one you posted had /dev/psaux as the mouse input [22:41] i wont talk shit [22:41] if you say that, men are turds. [22:41] macavity, tell the people who started to stop, its like if someone robs you, you dont just "ignore" you defend yourself [22:41] you think i'm going to protect men when someon says that? get a life [22:41] /dev/input/mice? [22:41] |alisonken1churc: it wasn't, that much have been dive [22:42] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.164.231.193) joined ##slackware. [22:42] I only posted my touchpad section [22:42] missyjane: just try it: /ignore jeev [22:42] macavity, people like you who just say "just ignore" is the reason why britain creates stupid laws like "antistab knives" and why america creates "no guns allowed" laws [22:42] missyjane: really :P [22:42] dude every one of you put the other on /ignore, i'm sick of the "i wish i had ops" ... stfu and use /ignore stop being a hypocrite [22:42] grouper, anyways, NO_HZ only gives you about maybe 1% battery life, but it's worth it i guess [22:42] macavity, " i'm sick of the "i wish i had ops" ... stfu and use /ignore stop being a hypocrite" <=== exactly :) [22:42] STEP AWAY FORM THE KBD!!! [22:42] |alisonken1churc: (2009-08-21 16:57:49) antiwire: alisonken1home: here's my whole section for my touch pad http://pastebin.com/m1365176 [22:43] i dont wish i had ops [22:43] I do [22:43] here is a case in action of is it free speech or did someone get a serious nastygram via the net. http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-technology/canadian-model-unmasks-blog-tormentor-20090820-er0x.html [22:43] grouper, mainly i find that trimming the kernel helps more (i mean, seriously, you don't need all the ATA controllers known to man built into the kernel ... for a kernel that works for everyone, sure, but not for your own machine) [22:43] i did; i'd tan all your hides :)~ [22:43] i actually declined it on more than one occation [22:43] Action: TwinReverb puts all three of 'em on ignore [22:43] http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/18/new.york.model.blog.lawsuit/index.html here is another [22:43] dont talk shit on the internet [22:43] yay 3 down, billions to go [22:43] <|alisonken1churc> antiwire: ok - that was dive's :) [22:43] <|alisonken1churc> got yours now - giving it a try [22:43] ;) [22:44] grouper, cpufreq is especially important: if you end up compiling your own kernel, you should definitely make "ondemand" or "conservative" the default scheduler [22:44] |alisonken1churc: the dimensions of my scroll zones and my tap timings might be different for your hardware so *warning* [22:44] if the freenode rules were more strict, i dont even have to go off like this, cause by the time some shit happen, people like jeev and strat would be kicked/banned and id be here moving on [22:44] not like you can't do that from userspace in /etc/rc.d/rc.local but you could [22:44] anyway, good night [22:44] omg someone is mad on the internet! sue me [22:45] missyjane that haps on efnet [22:45] btw, dalnet seemed depopulated to me a few days ago [22:45] missyjane: and please obsever that it is a sign of good faith that i step up to dance with you like this.. the idea that it would do any good to talk sense with jeev has not even remotely crossed my mind :P [22:45] *observe [22:45] grouper, other things that help battery life: running the lightest program you can for a specific job (rxvt instead of konsole, fluxbox instead of kde, etc) [22:45] Xfce has some nifty options [22:45] macavity, am i ignored by you ? [22:45] someone ask him [22:45] no litterally [22:45] macavity, hm... sorry youre right :) [22:45] so far i can use their battery thingy to suspend when i close the lid and i won't have a problem with it, even if i'm compiling a kernel during it [22:46] jeev: no, not litterally [22:46] macavity, did you see what i said? dont include me in a category that i dont belong in [22:46] "bahama drama momma" [22:46] if any of you 3 that i put on /ignore want to be unignored, go to ##slackofftopic, otherwise i will probably not remember to unignore [22:46] there is no talking sense into me [22:46] grouper, you getting any of this? [22:46] ive noticed... [22:46] no need. [22:47] macavity, mind if i pm you a link real qu ick? :) [22:47] missyjane, suck his dick while you're at it too [22:47] you may [22:47] he put you in your place and you're going to suck up by sending links [22:47] weeeeeeee [22:47] Action: TwinReverb is on DALnet [22:47] dalnet is terrible [22:47] jeev: keep it up.. there is a permban waiting for you when the ops get back, so enjoy it while you have a the chance [22:47] thanks macavity. [22:48] jeev crawl back under the rock you come out from [22:48] finally the day has come [22:48] dangit i hate when people ask something and i take my time to explain but they're somewhere else [22:48] TwinReverb, may i pm you real quick before i off myself to bed? [22:48] Quiznos, seriously just put 'im on ignore if he bothers you [22:48] Quiznos doesnt have a problem with me [22:48] do we need /ignore familiarization training, US Air Force style? >8-) [22:48] TwinReverb i know but he's a ##Politics-al pest. [22:48] :> [22:48] Quiznos's loves me [22:48] heh [22:48] NO NO NO [22:48] dont say that [22:48] yea you do [22:48] TwinReverb: go for it! :-) [22:49] you told me in pm's like missjane is doing to the others [22:49] i can give a death-by-PowerPoint (tm) one hour training on /ignore if you want >8-) [22:49] lol [22:49] ok lets all take a coffee break with your favorite beverages [22:50] so how would I show that I can be non-vague and committable? [22:50] you have no idea how much a sentence like that can throw off someone with AS :P [22:50] TwinReverb, sounds like something mst from #perl would do. [22:50] his blog posts are reallt strange. [22:51] jonsmith1982: link! [22:51] I read timecube last night so i need new material [22:51] ./msg jeev pff; you're dreamin [22:51] http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ [22:51] coffee [22:51] :> [22:51] jeev keep it public where I can safely ignore you [22:52] hahaha [22:52] jonsmith1982: oh man i can tell he's awesome just from the first sentence of the latest post. [22:52] this will be good [22:52] na what you said doesn't belong in public, im trying to forget about it [22:52] quasar status? [22:52] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:53] Quiznos: I think I'm giong to start over with a good ebook and go straight for C [22:53] any recomendations? [22:53] <|alisonken1churc> ok - restarted with your configuration and now the only thing the mouse does is cycle between desktops [22:53] <|alisonken1churc> antiwire: ^^^ [22:53] |alisonken1churc: probably an indication of large hardware differences [22:53] |alisonken1churc: did you try using input dev too? [22:54] quasar, you're learning C? [22:54] (keep in mind its been years since I've actually written anything worth running.. in Turbo Pascal none the less) [22:54] <|alisonken1churc> . /dev/iput/mice [22:54] quasar yea, put the printf code into separate file with proper .c extension and file-level c-syntax only. [22:54] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:55] jeev: was trying to learn C++ but I've ended up learning a little of both it seems [22:55] whats trying mean ? why'd you fail [22:55] i cant focus.. i'm impatient. i could never learn to code [22:55] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [22:56] jeev: I'm learning more and more that online forums and websites aren't the place to learn any programming language :) [22:56] yea [22:56] "The C Programming Lanugage" teaches you the syntax [22:56] "Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment" teaches you what real world code looks like [22:57] i bought the advanced book and gave up, weeeeeee [22:57] quasar if you're very good; you can google those [22:57] both available in dead tree version at you local book store [22:57] Quiznos: already got 'em actually lol [22:57] ok [22:57] jeev: you should get the former book and do all the assignments in it too [22:57] macavity: thanks, I'll start reading them now :) [22:58] macavity: I bought APUE too, but reading over the API (that's huge, no doubt) made me go one page at a time.. LOL.. [22:58] quasar: make sure TCPL is 2nd edition [22:58] macavity, when i can't focus enough to get past the first couple pages, i dont think anything will help [22:58] but that wont teach you GNUC language [22:58] dErFz (n=derf@unaffiliated/derfz) left irc: [22:58] jeev: ADHD? [22:59] severe [22:59] that explains the way you behave... get Ritaline [22:59] macavity, i'd rather die than take stuff like that, i've gotten a lot better from what i used to be [22:59] and that doesn't explain the way i behave [23:00] and no, i am not just talking out of my ass here.. my GF and her two children have ADHD, so i actually know what i am talking about [23:00] hrm.. I dont have CPL, I have C++PL (3rd edition) [23:00] yay i've been ignored!! [23:00] Action: quasar goes to the book store [23:00] i said something and got insulted, dont be telling me that was adhd [23:00] quasar jf google it [23:00] Quiznos: google is my bookstore lol [23:00] ok [23:01] jeev: i have seen you type before you think in numerous occations in here [23:01] quasar startpage.com for better privacy re searching [23:01] quasar, why C ? [23:01] macavity, i have a hot personality eh [23:01] quasar read their mission statement [23:02] s/hot/ice cold/ [23:02] macavity: what type would that be? someone who is so disinterested in something that they don't want to read about it? or someone that's been reading text that's so disinteresting they don't want to read it? [23:02] fire|bird.. teehee [23:03] "teehee" AlBundy's line [23:03] jeev: it tends to go with the terratory... as i said, i am no stranger to ADHD and its effects in both the medicated and the unmedicated text [23:03] Quiznos: indeed. [23:03] i miss them [23:03] jonsmith1982: This is actually a really nice post http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/respect-is-per-community/ [23:03] should tube them for a fix [23:03] Quiznos: Married with Children is still on TV. [23:03] yea i wouldn't use medication and stuff, i think that mental will power is stronger than medication that will eventually hurt you [23:03] "trust is both earned and lost" [23:03] -- me. [23:03] grouper: TCPL is not exactly coding porn.. but if you do the assignments you will know the syntax by heart afterwards [23:04] fire|bird somewhere, yea; but not on my limited tv chans; they are webbed tho [23:04] Quiznos: yeah, the older shows like that are the best ones, instead of most of these new shows that are on. :P [23:04] fire|bird even the first season; different format of show from the ones seen on tv [23:04] fire|bird exact. [23:04] fire|bird alittle darker [23:04] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-22-53.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:05] jeev: compensating with will power will just burn you out [23:05] so will medication [23:05] ok i'm bored [23:05] jeev: people with ADHD rarely run 40 before they have their first breakdown with cronic stress [23:05] Quiznos, code something for me [23:05] can we diskus slackware? [23:05] what [23:05] sure [23:05] i dont know, sign a NDA for me and youre not getting paid [23:05] nop [23:06] macavity, i'll take my chances.. the way the fear mongers are going, i'm not going to live till 40 and not a lot of others will either ;) [23:06] YES! [23:06] lol [23:06] that's good news for me [23:06] thank you hannity! [23:07] slack.ware slack.are slack.ware!!! [23:07] jeev: still, ADHD or not, i formally request the you adapt a less rude way to adress people [23:07] <[chant]> [23:07] macavity,i was rude? [23:07] brb [23:07] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:08] jeev: "women are turds" is *way* beyond just being rude [23:08] macavity "you shouldnt engage people with sharp edges" [23:08] wow, and what he/she said wasn't? [23:08] that's actually under control compared to some of the other stuff... [23:09] jeev: what he/sshe said does not justify that you follow their examble [23:09] trotsky (n=hooch@124-170-192-215.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [23:09] i felt the necessity to destroy her night and make her feel like crap for saying what she did in response to such a generic comment by me [23:10] ya know, i used to have a svga file.c that replaced the standard driver/video code; gotta find it [23:10] you didnt succede [23:10] you just added to the noise [23:10] she's crying herself to sleep [23:11] i have the idea that both you and here have so big egos that it takes physical abuse to make you cry.. but i could be wrong [23:11] jeev you are a cruel ass. [23:11] *her [23:11] no i'm quite sensitive in real life [23:11] learn compassion and pity. [23:11] bs [23:11] i am... [23:12] you know what i think [23:12] perhaps you should question why people have a hard time beliving that [23:12] then you're a hypocrite [23:12] everyone just needs to chill the fuck out [23:12] about mostly everything [23:12] grouper you were late to the party. dont respond [23:12] wow [23:12] see [23:12] yeah Donny [23:12] exactly what i'm talking about [23:12] that surprises you? [23:12] grouper: i normally do.. but when it happens time number 50 that i see the same individuals in a bickery fight i tend to step up [23:12] not really [23:12] how can you be so interested when you arrived late? [23:13] starting to feel kinda glad I missed something lol [23:13] quasar it was sad, really [23:13] grouper why are you tryin to start stuffs [23:13] what? [23:13] Quiznos: should I scroll up? [23:13] nah [23:13] the only reason it went on for more than a couple of minutes is becuse of the lack of ops around at this hour [23:13] oh crhist [23:13] nevermind [23:14] Leenux (n=nobody@114.57.34.236) joined ##slackware. [23:14] :> [23:14] normally it would have been snuffed right away [23:14] just trying to get people to be a bit more passive about careless conversations that don't really mean anything on the internet [23:14] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:15] i happen to "work here".. so it does mean something to me when people are throwing poo at eathother like they got paid for it [23:15] macavity, come on.. the poo i tossed was a pea [23:15] it was annoying.. as usual [23:15] she tossed a turkey of poo, so i returned with a tank of poo [23:16] both of you should keep each other on permanent /ignore [23:16] done [23:16] good night all:) [23:16] gn [23:16] night hitest [23:16] nite [23:17] night macavity, Quiznos, quasar:) [23:17] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [23:17] hitest (n=hitest@64.114.226.226) left irc: "Leaving" [23:17] here's the Donny background http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjYJ7zZ9BRw&feature=related [23:19] Action: macavity starts reading slashdot [23:20] Action: Quiznos backfills his Archive/, begin with Slackware/pub/... [23:20] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.164.231.193) left irc: "leaving" [23:22] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:27] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:30] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] greetings and salutations [23:31] yo dawg [23:31] hi [23:31] you missed a real dust-up [23:31] good for you [23:32] it wasnt pretty at all [23:32] greetings andarius, how are you? [23:33] salutations fire|bird, I am well. how are you ? [23:33] <|alisonken1churc> antiwire: ok - between you and dive, I think I've got it working. thanks [23:33] trotsky (n=hooch@124-170-192-215.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [23:33] |alisonken1churc: nice [23:33] andarius: excellent, thanks. [23:33] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-192-215.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [23:33] <|alisonken1churc> and the cube rotates when I scroll on the background too [23:33] Nick change: bhodgins -> Subway [23:34] So... [23:34] no, you are denied [23:34] :D [23:34] morning [23:34] I'd rather eat something with less MSG in it XD [23:35] y0 frullet, how's it going? [23:35] fire|bird: doing well mate, yourself? [23:35] frullet: excellent, thank you. [23:35] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@96.250.220.91) joined ##slackware. [23:36] Nick change: judequinn -> CaptainObvious [23:36] Nick change: CaptainObvious -> usus12jari [23:38] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-28-192.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:38] powtrix (n=powtrix@189.69.16.187) joined ##slackware. [23:41] this is a fairly decent pictorial of what just took place in here http://tinyurl.com/l4ayhu [23:41] hahaha [23:41] angry piglets? [23:41] antiwire: which one in here would be the one that got knocked out? [23:41] lol [23:41] I want a shirt with that scene on it [23:42] and, who in here was protecting the honey? :P [23:44] lol [23:45] antiwire, what one are you? [23:45] I'm the drunk ass passed out in the back [23:45] lol [23:45] ;) [23:46] http://www.collegehumor.com/picture:1918411 [23:46] oh man...that pic is going to follow him for the rest of his life [23:47] omfg when was that picture of me taken? o.O [23:47] quasar: you still with her? [23:47] yes -_- [23:47] I think that was the night we met actually [23:48] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:48] quasar: she lost any weight? [23:49] yes... if you allow for negative numbers [23:49] quasar: http://www.collegehumor.com/picture:1917909 <---She the one on the right? [23:50] possibly before I met her [23:50] cellulite and cankles, a winning combination [23:50] haha [23:52] Action: quasar puffs on his pipe and goes back to reading [23:52] quasar: Wow, I guess she lost weight, she hunt quite a bit? http://www.collegehumor.com/picture:1644745 [23:52] that's not her.. that's my mom [23:52] haha, whoops, sorry. :P [23:52] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [23:53] I was a little confused when I saw them together too [23:53] hahaha [23:54] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:56] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [00:00] --- Sat Aug 22 2009