[00:00] ok...now to make my xchat text larger [00:00] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:01] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.44.82) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:02] ok...testing [00:02] much better [00:02] heh [00:04] jcn0 (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:05] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Quit: "And I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over a man she is to keep silent" - 1 Timothy 2:12 [00:06] i have this little 13" monitor, so having to deal with it, on a 1024 screen(anything smaller, and it doesn't work with any de) [00:08] gsb is a little slow on this hardware, but nothing like kde on same hardware [00:09] evilaz (~user@cpe-075-176-171-074.sc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:10] jcn0 (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [00:11] nachox (~Ignacio@133-74-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:11] kleanchap (~scotty@p5B11967B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [00:13] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-120.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:14] qwebirc42793 (47bf3f0c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.191.63.12) joined ##slackware. [00:16] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] Hello, could someone point me to a howto on installing software [00:17] cybErpunk (davi@189.4.126.138) joined ##slackware. [00:17] cybErpunk (davi@189.4.126.138) left irc: Changing host [00:17] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [00:18] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:18] qwebirc42793, well i think that is too generic/vague for a howto [00:18] "install it" would probably suffice... [00:19] I found slackbuilds but not sure how to go about the install of the tar.gz files [00:19] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [00:19] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [00:19] You don't. [00:20] If you download from slackbuilds.org, extract the files then download the source. [00:20] When you run XXXXX.SlackBuild, it'll compile a Slackware package for you. [00:20] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:22] qwebirc42793, slackbuilds of what? from where? generally a slackbuild is a script that you run in the presence of a source tarball and it creates a slackware package that can be installed with pkgtools [00:22] but don't use a slackbuild if the binary is included with slackware [00:22] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [00:23] slackbuild.org [00:23] is where I'm looking now [00:23] trying to under stand the how too [00:24] sit say's to extract it.. [00:24] I need a beginners guid if possible [00:24] tar [00:25] not sure what to use to extract a file in linux [00:25] For tar.gz, tar [00:25] tar xfv thefile.tar.gz [00:25] You can use "tar xvf FILENAME" [00:25] br00tal (~br00tal@c-66-41-95-104.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:25] You don't actually need the "v", but it's nice to see the files as they are extracted. [00:25] ty.. [00:25] Tar will automatically detect the compression and gunzip as it runs. [00:26] then download the software source into the directory it creates and run the slackbuild ./bla.SlackBuild [00:26] Yes, then it's easy to see the subdirectory where the source file has to be placed. [00:27] ty I see the files as the howto shows [00:28] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [00:32] do I need any strings for installpkg? 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[00:50] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [00:50] Cadohacan (ad4d7598@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.117.152) left irc: Quit: Page closed [00:50] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [00:51] Yes. You need a string attached to the cord in the wall outlet, so you can yank it out in a hurry if you install the wrong thing. [00:52] Oh, he left. Blah. [00:52] MrEntropy (~entropy@220-253-179-172.NSW.netspace.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:52] hey [00:52] what do you guys use to burn DVD-R DLs? [00:53] MrEntropy: data or video? [00:53] data [00:55] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.19.245.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:56] MrEntropy: I use cdrecord after making the iso...but it can be quite terse [00:56] I use a DVD burner [00:57] Oak: what do you use to put in the dvd burner...program-wise? [00:58] xfburn [00:59] am0rphis (~ewq@79.124.168.146) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:00] Oak: that uses libburnia for it's base...works good for you? [01:00] yup [01:00] what's you Slackware version? [01:01] your* [01:01] 13.0 [01:01] does this allow burning .iso to DVD-R DL? [01:01] "this" being xfburn [01:02] ahh, so it does [01:02] i'll give this a crack [01:02] I never tried it... [01:02] Oak: cool..i messed with xfburn a few times but it's been a while [01:03] give it a try then :) things change [01:04] Oak: will try...thanks [01:04] Nick change: tuvok302Lappy -> tuvok302 [01:05] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.57.19) joined ##slackware. [01:06] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:06] it hates my drive =/ [01:07] tells me a blank is not an empty disc [01:07] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.126.57.19) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:07] i'm going to reset. something tells me it needs to be done. [01:07] MrEntropy (~entropy@220-253-179-172.NSW.netspace.net.au) left irc: Quit: when i compile, elfs pop out! [01:08] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [01:14] akumaru (~akmalhamd@2403:8000:1:5400:5054:abff:fe56:dc51) joined ##slackware. [01:19] jcn0 (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:20] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:25] kleanchap (~scotty@p5B11967B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:25] hi all [01:25] heya shonudo [01:25] hey MLanden [01:25] good evening (or good morning) [01:26] good morning is right, i think [01:26] Nick change: Wulf-is-not-here -> WireWulf [01:26] east of the Mississippi so morning would be right...;*) [01:27] tuvok302 (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-120.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:27] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:28] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [01:28] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-59.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:29] been messing with Toonstruck(after doing a bit of clean-up to the cds)...found the cd's...dosbox 0.7.4 plays it perfectly [01:30] the game? [01:30] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:30] yeah...followed the Monkey Island like interface [01:30] very nice [01:30] looks like fun [01:30] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:30] you're running a dos box? [01:31] (that also sounds like fun) [01:33] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [01:35] shonudo: yeah...dosbox(the program) is cool to have when digging out a old game or so [01:36] C:\> is still hard to beat as a desktop environment... lol [01:37] toonstruck must use what... all of 2-4mb of ram? [01:38] shonudo: think 16 or 24mb...small taters nowadays..;*) [01:38] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:42] agreed; i'm still a bit amazed at how inexpensive both memory and storage is now [01:45] true...sign o'the times....since now we're beyond video storage [01:48] inconnu (~user@69-165-217-79.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [01:50] ls [01:50] akumaru (akmalhamd@2403:8000:1:5400:5054:abff:fe56:dc51) left ##slackware. [01:50] that won't do much here, akamaru... [01:51] if it did it would be scary [01:51] lol [01:52] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:52] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [01:53] inconnu (user@69-165-217-79.dsl.teksavvy.com) left ##slackware. [01:53] alias ls /names ;] [01:53] heh [01:54] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-47-248.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:56] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [01:56] ok, gsb is nice, but my machine is *way* too slow for it [01:56] nyRednek, what is your box running? [01:57] shonudo, meaning? [01:57] cpu, ram, etc. [01:57] shonudo, pii, 400mhz, 128mb [01:58] nyRednek: try any of the mono packages with it? [01:58] and it's struggling with gnome? [01:58] shonudo, yeah, you'd think such a powerful system could handle *anything* [01:59] it's so hard to convey sarcasm on irc... [01:59] [01:59] that setup would seem ideal for *box [01:59] fluxbox perhaps? [02:00] shonudo, nope, xfce is fine...when i'm not using fvwm [02:00] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-164-132.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:03] nyRednek: came 'cross this while back http://sourceforge.net/projects/wmrss/ with xfce4's wmdock..nice to have couple of feeds showing the 64x64 block [02:05] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [02:05] MLanden, coolness [02:08] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-28-68.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:08] nyRednek: what's the make/model of that pentium2? [02:09] some kind of dell frankenstein [02:10] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-28-68.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:13] nyRednek: give it life,doctor...and burn the villagers back with slackitude..;) [02:13] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [02:13] it's the machine i've been using for months [02:14] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [02:16] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-163-55-227.range86-163.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:16] nyRednek: ok [02:17] Nick change: WireWulf -> Wulf-is-not-here [02:20] EvanR (~evan@ip70-180-53-21.br.br.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:20] is it true that slackware ships with a freetype which has the fugly true type rendering flag switched on? [02:21] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:22] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [02:25] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [02:25] EvanR, look at the slackbuild [02:25] k [02:26] As far as I know, cleartype and something else isn't enabled at compile time. [02:27] apple patented hinting [02:27] Yes. [02:27] THATs why everything looks like shit in X [02:27] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [02:27] apn (~apn@pool-71-190-25-46.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:28] EvanR, so we're to buy a bunch of overpriced macs to get the proper(according to you) rendering...heh [02:28] You can edit the SlackBuild to enable them then run it. This step isn't recommended in commercial environments, needless to say. [02:29] were to disable the fugly flag and rebuild our freetypes [02:29] nyRednek: ^ [02:29] EvanR, i'm guessing 8 years ago, you were trolling people with intel hardware...until apple went intel [02:29] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:30] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [02:30] forget apple [02:30] the code is sitting right there in freetype [02:32] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:37] EvanR (~evan@ip70-180-53-21.br.br.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:41] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-59.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:43] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. 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[04:37] i got Omnibook Xe3 and while i used debian i could get fn and "one touch" keys work with omnibook module. but now :S i can't get it compiled [04:41] grazymax (~grazymax@host163-156-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:48] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-13-243.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:54] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.248) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:55] grazymax (~grazymax@host163-156-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: grazymax [04:56] rworkman: say, say, are you making packages for the new xorg? :p (yeah, I know they've just released it ;p ) [04:56] fragdad: 14th February, or 13th [04:56] byteframe: by the time 13.2 is released, there should be a gcc 4.6 I think [04:56] thanks [04:56] is slackware-current much more updated than 13.1 or not really [04:57] no [04:57] not now [04:57] why? something in particular? 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[05:43] DaRkOoO (darkooo@unaffiliated/darkooo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [05:44] heh, googling 'libvdpau' shows the SBo download page as third hit, a few ranks above the official git repo [05:45] pprkut: google results are biaised [05:45] for me it's more than that [05:45] basically, google learns what you are looking for and ranks accordingly [05:45] fair enough, still funny :) [05:45] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-122-138.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:46] like, results involving "ocaml" are ranked far higher if I am searching while being logged in my gmail account or searching from yaxm.org/! (yaxm.org/!libvdpau, it's a kind of "shortcut") [05:46] but, yeah ;-) [05:46] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:47] lost in 2.93 seconds, conclusion: touchpads suck for games [05:47] daemonio (~kernel@189-112-064-226.static.ctbctelecom.com.br) joined ##slackware. [05:47] lol [05:48] yeah, I don't like to play intensive games with touchpads either. But more because my fingers start to hurt after a few minutes [05:49] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [05:49] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [05:51] Jaunita^ (hey65@41.236.14.3) joined ##slackware. [05:52] well, I also have a problem because of a bug in xorg (1.8): the right-side is vertical-scroll and I can't disable it, so it makes my touchpad 20% smaller =: [05:52] =/ [05:54] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Client Quit [05:55] I guess that wouldn't matter for me [05:56] I'm so accustomed to touchpads that using a mouse feels awkward [05:57] :o [05:57] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:58] allu2 (~aleksi@dsl-kvlbrasgw2-fe12df00-207.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [06:00] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. 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[08:08] the generic kernel needs an initrd, the huge kernel doesn't [08:09] john_dee (~id@95-29-144-58.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [08:10] pprkut: by default of installation what kernel is installed [08:10] vignesh (~vignesh@122.164.251.128) joined ##slackware. [08:10] pprkut: 13.1 [08:10] huge, I think [08:11] Reav_ (~Sarge@41.210.191.7) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [08:11] you can pick, though [08:11] popl: what? [08:11] lamah: You can choose which kernel you want to install at installation time. [08:11] popl: ahh, ok [08:12] popl: I don't remember that, I can't remember what i have installed on [08:12] popl: but i don't have a created initrd image in /boot [08:12] lamah: Just ls -l /boot and you will see [08:12] lamah, uname -r [08:12] popl: should be huge [08:12] and ls /var/log/packages/kernel* [08:13] uname -r will just give the version number [08:13] no i don't need to check i don't have a initrd image only symlink to README of initrd [08:13] that's is a huge kernel [08:13] shoudle be [08:13] lamah, then its huge [08:13] vignesh: yes :))) [08:14] vignesh: but if i compile the 2.6.35.x the new one, there i need to create a initrd? [08:14] lamah, yes you need to [08:14] vignesh ok... ! [08:14] lamah, will be something like this [08:15] lamah, mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.33.4-smp -m ext4 -f ext4 -r /dev/sda2 /boot/initrd-genric-$(uname -r).gz [08:15] just use /usr/share/mkinitrd/mkinitrd_command_generator.sh [08:15] aha [08:15] popl, Wow.. I didnt know that existed [08:15] temp3: +98.0°C (crit = +110.0°C) [08:15] vignesh: I read the documentation. :) [08:16] lol [08:16] a long time ago [08:16] temp1: +69.0°C (crit = +105.0°C) [08:16] I never do.. maybe I must start doing that.. nope [08:16] is that normal? [08:16] vdv: It depends on your CPU [08:16] john_dee (~id@95-29-144-58.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:16] the 98.0 C is suspicious [08:17] popl, how do you check the temp ? [08:17] with my tongue [08:17] :P [08:18] i've noticed that fan speed increased [08:18] Ah.. neat trick [08:18] sensors [08:18] I use sensors in the console but I have gkrellm running [08:18] I use it to monitor hardware loads and such [08:18] vdv: is your processor working? [08:18] temp1: +52.0°C [08:19] run top and see [08:19] popl: what do you mean? :) [08:19] highly loaded? [08:19] yes, i'm building a package now [08:19] then that's why the fan went on [08:19] :P [08:19] but it should't go that high [08:19] the temperature [08:20] something is wrong with ventilation [08:20] vdv, Open up and clean [08:20] I had the same problem a few months back [08:20] vignesh: it's a laptop [08:20] My laptop used to just turn off, then opened the case and cleaned the fan. Since then I clean it once in a while [08:20] then pray [08:20] you can open a laptop to clean it [08:21] no, praying helps. may god strike down upon dust. [08:21] just remember the order in which you remove stuff. [08:21] Mine is a Lenovo, there is a opening for each device, hdd, ram and fan [08:22] just unscrew and blow [08:22] also make sure that you are grounded properly as to prevent any esd [08:23] have no screwdriver :) [08:24] maybe it's even better for me :) [08:24] vdv: Do you have a can of compressed air? [08:24] no [08:24] vdv: you should invest in some [08:25] some people suggest using a vacuum cleaner but I don't know about that [08:25] I need to get one of those too [08:25] you can use either but depends on how much you love your laptop [08:26] ashe (~ashe@125.166.164.128) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:27] Don't use vacuum cleaner. [08:27] ashe (~ashe@118.96.239.173) joined ##slackware. [08:30] Any of you folks using rainlendar? [08:30] rissy: The method which I am assuming people use the vacuum cleaner is to hold the extension hose to the fan port on their laptop. [08:30] also exhaust of vacuum to blow it out as well [08:31] blowing is usually more effective [08:31] Action: ananke hasn't seen a vacuum with exhaust extension hose in decades [08:31] wet/dry shop vacs :) [08:32] alisonken1home: most of those don't have them [08:32] mine does [08:32] Not really :) [08:32] well, at least the cheap ones don't [08:32] yeah, the only ones that do are the brand ones [blue/gray colors] [08:39] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:39] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [08:42] ashe (~ashe@118.96.239.173) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:44] vignesh (~vignesh@122.164.251.128) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:46] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) joined ##slackware. [08:49] ashe (~ashe@118.96.221.96) joined ##slackware. [08:50] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [08:50] Say [08:51] I'm adding a samba share in KDE. It opens a file manager window of that share. Is there any folder on the filesystem that'll let me access shares contents from another program? [08:51] v4nelle (~van@78-185-25.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:51] john_dee: nope. [08:51] Like in gnome there's /home/user/.gvfs folder with all mounted shares [08:52] Oh [08:52] ananke: Thanks. One more reason to hate KDE. Yay! [08:52] list is quite large. for both kde and gnome. don't feel special [08:53] True [08:53] But this...is annoying [08:53] :) [08:53] if you want a filesystem to be accessible from your filesystem, you should be mounting it, not accessing it via kioslaves [08:53] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:53] and if that other software was using kde libs, it could access that share [08:55] The app is amarok2 [08:55] then it should be easily able to access that data [08:57] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:58] Well, I don't see how it can [08:59] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:01] how can i look which resources use specific process, for example which files access, lsof? have a problem with qtcreator here (slackbuild version), i run it and it just sits in process list and in the end takes 100% cpu [09:01] don't understand the reason of the problem [09:02] Hm. Turns out it can. But what an ugly example of usability that is :] [09:04] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-25-7-121.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:04] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-25-7-121.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:05] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator/+bug/459752 [09:06] popl (~popl@unaffiliated/popl) left irc: Quit: http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop. [09:10] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:10] slysyr (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[10:14] ananke: I don't really need it to be accessible from filesystem. I just need it to be accessible from at least KDE apps, which is something I'm not getting. Even though this is what this thing was made for, isn't it? [10:14] omegageek (rooot@69-165-138-51.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [10:15] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:15] For example, I created and saved a shortcut to the share, saved credentials. Now amarok can open it from "add media" dialog, but still won't play it :P [10:15] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [10:15] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:16] how thats possible ... that after I torified all my machine ( by appropriete iptables ) my ISP detected that I use the port 25 ? So the tor keep the same port through tor path ? [10:17] v4nelle (~van@78-185-25.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:17] or the cyphering occurs at the site of first tor node, not on the client side .... ? right ? [10:17] Not that I'm trying to remove glands thru the arse. Pardon my french :D [10:18] paul424: Everything is encrypted on client. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense [10:19] john_dee: yeah sure , so how his software detected ? [10:20] paul424: I don't quite get what the problem is [10:20] And how is tor related to iptables [10:20] and port 25 for that matter [10:20] :\ [10:20] john_dee: neither do I , so I ask ... [10:21] john_dee: my ip tables are set to reroute every outgoing connection through tor proxy [10:21] john_dee: now, you dig ? [10:22] Sort of [10:23] I'd guess it doesn't reroute your connections then [10:23] Afair, you have to set up every app to use either tor proxy or tor daemon directly [10:25] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.223) joined ##slackware. [10:26] Or it does, but they somehow bypass tor [10:26] paul424: ^ [10:27] paul424: How do you actually do the re-routing? %) [10:27] If you don't mind sharing [10:29] I found some script on tor home page under the topic rerouting [10:29] zbouby (~zbouby@www.zbouboutchi.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [10:29] hmm but now I see something is wrong ... I send somethign trought Thunderbird on usenet test group [10:30] NNTP-Posting-Host is my orginal IP hmm .... [10:30] :D [10:30] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-66-211.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:30] Guess that script was posted by NSA agent [10:30] jhw (~jhw@p548D6B6F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:30] Oh , horror! [10:31] if you proficient with iptables [10:31] i can priv you ... cause no paste.org for me works now [10:31] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-154-146-194.range109-154.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. 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[12:50] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@253-135.thezone.bg) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:52] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [12:53] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-0-32.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:53] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-45-123.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:54] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:57] rhys (~Rhys@ma20736d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:01] pprkut: btw, take this *hug* for the icecream slackbuild :P [13:01] our .33.x kernel is lame and gets no patches on kernel.org [13:02] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-13-243.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:02] pprkut: the opensuse.org wiki had some (all?) pages moved around and the link you mention is now broken [13:04] OffPlanet (~meler@ppp-69-237-88-169.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:05] MrJacks0n (Mr@173-86-45-240.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:06] seanaustin (~sean@173.154.250.99) joined ##slackware. [13:06] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-45-123.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:07] AbsTradELic (1000@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:07] does anyone know of a slackbuild for boost 1.44 [13:07] adrien: yep, realized that when looking for updates. Will be fixed with the next icecream update :) [13:07] isnt boost now included? [13:08] pprkut: you know the new address? [13:08] not offhand [13:08] seanaustin: try the official slack source under l/ [13:09] adrien: btw, interested in icemon? :D [13:09] thanks - does that build the multithreaded libraries? [13:10] no idea. [13:10] Nick change: MrJacks0n -> MrJackson [13:11] seanaustin: for example, http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-current/source/l/boost/ [13:11] pprkut: want to setup two quadcores, two dual-cores, only two being on the same LAN: other are on the same internet (yeah, I have three internets in total ;p ) [13:12] thanks foobarz [13:13] pprkut: but http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?search=icecream&ns0=1&ns102=1&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=Search&fulltext=Search doesn't mention anything interesting =/ [13:15] yah, looks like it's gone for good [13:15] hmm, might link to the svn repo then :/ [13:16] or ftp [13:16] lamah (~ghost@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [13:16] Action: lamah is compiling 2.6.35.3 [13:17] adrien: I have it with two dual-cores and two dual-cpus, so 4 nodes in total [13:17] foobarz: that is actually the same as slackware13.1 but thanks anyways [13:17] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:17] pprkut: actually, 3 quads and two duals, I think, but I'll add another one later on :P [13:18] the goal is to compile webkit-gtk in less than 5 minutes :P [13:18] seanaustin: yes, you have can just edit the SlackBuild and change the version number inside it, and download a newer boost... look over the SlackBuild and it is probably still fine for a new version [13:18] adrien: haha, good luck! [13:19] heh, it's taking 10 minutes on my quad, it might be doable ;-) [13:19] also, it seems man icecream(7) has "How To Combine Icecream With Ccache" [13:19] at that level of parallelisation the most critical factor is the build system [13:20] adrien: yep, I know. For a reason I can no longer remember I refrained from supporting that out-of-the-box [13:20] yeah, webkit-gtk might reach 8, 10, maybe 12 parallels, probably not more [13:20] but then, I have the linux kernel ;-) [13:21] 'make -j' in the linux kernel will forkbomb your machine, even with a small kernel setup ;-) [13:21] when i run this from my shell [13:21] /usr/bin/ssh -i /.ssh/id_dsa_copyfiles crm\@192.168.0.25 sh -c "mkdir -p -m 0777 /var/tmp/crm/${1};" [13:21] i get "mkdir: missing operand" [13:21] does slack 13.x haves a epic4? [13:21] anyone see why? [13:22] seanaustin: looks like that SB does some fancy logic to get the version number off of the boost tarball filename [13:22] It is not so much as the newest version but an issue I have with a game - frogatto [13:22] or is not supporteD? [13:23] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [13:23] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:23] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [13:23] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:24] who knows? [13:27] lamah: ls /var/log/packages/*epic* [13:27] talso (~talso@S01060014a66c0887.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:28] lamah: slocate epic4 shows up in my removed scripts on 13.1 [13:28] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:29] it's a epic5 in slack 13.x, I see [13:29] i am trying to compile the old epic4 [13:29] /usr/include/term.h:763: note: expected 'char *' but argument is of type 'const char *' [13:29] make[1]: *** [term.o] Error 1 [13:29] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [13:30] adrien: http://www.liwjatan.at/files/icecc-packages/ in case you are interested ;) [13:30] why i can't compile epic4 [13:30] what i need [13:31] i have everything full/custom install [13:31] pprkut: is it specific to some target/host combination? [13:31] adrien: you would need those or similar to build 64bit code on slack32 nodes [13:31] lamah: the code might need a regression path [13:31] lamah: patch, rather [13:31] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-28-162-106.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:32] thumbs: what patch? [13:32] pprkut: would be mostly for mingw-w64 hosts [13:32] rhys (~Rhys@ma20736d0.tmodns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:32] adrien: hm? [13:33] initself: are you sure ${1} is defined? [13:33] mattallmill (~mattallmi@69.71.126.146) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:34] pprkut: I mean: will they work for hosts/builds that are not i486/x86_64: would I be able to distribute compiles targetting arm with that, [13:34] adrien: if you start a compile on slackware64, and you have 32bit nodes on the network, they won't be used unless you have cross-compile environemts configured [13:34] adrien: ya, even if i test without it, same issue [13:34] adrien: no, you would have to generate separate environment packages for that [13:34] lamah: well, since it's a new gcc and toolchain, perhaps someone made a patch for epic4. [13:34] bleh [13:34] pprkut: ok, I see [13:34] adrien: I would have called it i486-arm, or x86_64-arm in that case [13:35] rhys (~Rhys@m820736d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:35] initself: i missed your original problem [13:35] yeah, that was the name that made me wonder, and [13:35] thumbs: i have chmod +x'ed file "mkpatch" in source dir of epic4? [13:36] pprkut: but currently I think I'll use virtual machines anyway because some hosts are debian... [13:36] ashe (~ashe@118.96.221.96) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:37] "hch : 8 logbufs is the deault" <- for xfs (it's the default now) [13:37] rhys (~Rhys@m820736d0.tmodns.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:37] adrien: that's the beauty of icecream. Neither host nor architecture matters. Hell, you could even use a Mac as a node [13:37] foobarz: I found the problem - it's not the libraries, I had a moment of supergenius and made a mistake [13:38] pprkut: oh, yeah, I'm not doubting about icecream's capabilities: the problem is debian ;-) [13:38] I don't know if I can put a gcc 4.4.1 there [13:39] you don't have to [13:39] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [13:39] hmmm, it won't be able to use a gcc 4.2 or so [13:39] Why? [13:39] 4.3.2, better [13:39] lamah (~ghost@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: lPt [13:39] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [13:39] you can't use versions of gcc that are two different [13:40] plus 4.3 generates binaries that are slower [13:40] adrien: icecream compiles in a chroot ;) [13:41] hmmm, ok, makes sense for security, and I can install whichever gcc I want? [13:41] adrien: by default, the gcc you have installed on the main-machine is distributed over the network to all the child nodes [13:41] ah, ok [13:41] that's the point I wasn't aware of [13:41] but the glibc version would matter then [13:41] no? [13:42] if you want to use a different gcc than the default one, you'd have to make an environment package and point icecream to that [13:42] ok, I need to try, but it's good news =) [13:42] because I really really really don't want to mess with debian :P [13:43] adrien: all dependant libs are available from the environment package. As long as the binary is runable on the node's architecture, it should work [13:44] of course, you'd need to have icecream installed in debian ;) [13:48] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [13:49] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-28-162-106.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:53] Mowah (~tree@c-f78de555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:53] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [13:54] pprkut: I had to create a folder named "updated" in my home on the debian box... [13:54] foobarz: thank you very much - that slackbuild has got some serious kung fu - did the trick [13:55] adrien: huh? [13:55] also, since I've written a package manager that works in its own prefix (not necessarily /), I thought about using it to manage packages in that folder: I might need several updated software [13:55] pprkut: it's debian... "stable", so it's oooooooold [13:56] heya all [13:57] hahaha [13:57] lamah (~ghost@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [13:57] initrd.gz is that a initrd image that i created? [13:57] omegageek (rooot@69-165-138-51.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [13:57] file.gz ? [13:58] extension? [13:58] adaptr, debian stable should be read, "debian, the geriatric release" [13:58] yeah, almost [13:58] what is a extension of initrd image, .gz ? [13:59] hopeully they might be close to a newer release, so stable should provide things for 2008, or maybe even 2009! [13:59] (although I doubt it) [13:59] adrien, ^^ [13:59] s/for/from/ [13:59] tab fail [13:59] they are close to releasing squeeze I think [13:59] I read they have 250 "bugs" left, so quite close hopefully [14:00] yes .gz it is [14:00] lamah (~ghost@fedora/lamah) left irc: Client Quit [14:04] hey nyRednek; did you get gsb leaned-out enough to be worth your while? [14:05] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-28-162-106.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:05] shonudo, by using gnome utils in xfce, sure [14:05] that is useful, no? [14:06] shadowx, yeah, useful [14:06] or were you interested in the DE? [14:06] shonudo, even [14:06] yeah [14:06] shonudo, i'm mildly interested in the DE [14:07] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:07] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:07] shonudo, but even so, it isn't relevant if my system can't handle it [14:07] indeed [14:07] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [14:08] if it crawls, it's worthless [14:08] shonudo, right [14:09] shonudo, kde/gnome are way too slow [14:10] kingbeowulf (~kingbeowu@c-71-59-193-120.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:12] frak. guess I have to go multilib [14:12] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:12] adaptr: there's always a way around ;) [14:13] I d/l Descent 3 for Linux - awesome, yet 2000-ish game.. it wants glib 2.2 :) [14:13] or 2.1, even [14:13] and is only for 32 bit, obviously [14:13] oh wait, I could try *emu [14:14] can you run pure 32bit stuff iside xen/kvm ? [14:15] grr gots ta eat first.. can't think [14:16] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [14:16] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:17] dustybin: what failed and how? [14:17] burshki (~dcash@2002:442f:ac31:0:21e:65ff:fed1:4a6) joined ##slackware. [14:19] BadAtom (~epigramma@supporter/active/BadAtom) joined ##slackware. [14:19] ? [14:20] so how to watch www servers without p 80 enabled ? [14:22] what do you mean, "watch"? [14:22] uhh connect to :D [14:22] like, view website in a browser? [14:23] dustybin: a few hours ago, you asked about sbopkg failing to download something [14:23] yeas [14:24] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-28-162-106.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:26] slakmagik: oh its happened a few times, i do a sync before i use sbopkg, sometimes the source code download link fails, or the compile fails. if i download the slackbuild manually it works [14:27] paul424: www.somesite.com:someotherport [14:27] could this be a possible malware infection? [14:28] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:29] no - but without specifics I can't do anything about it. Usually it's something like a gpg check failure, which is expected and can be worked around, or a cert-check failure (ditto) or it's just a URL so screwed-up as to be unusable by wget. There's one or two of those at times. [14:29] aryr100 (~aryr100@64.132.183.186) joined ##slackware. [14:29] if it's none of the above, it's a bug that needs to be fixed. [14:29] slakmagik: you have an example url that would be broken? [14:30] Action: thrice` would quite enjoy zsh tab-completion for sbopkg :> [14:30] pprkut: I'd have to hunt around for it - someone was complaining at LQ about something - IIRC, it was a redirect that wget couldn't follow or something [14:30] aryr100 (~aryr100@64.132.183.186) left irc: Client Quit [14:31] slakmagik: interesting. I never had an issue with wget so far [14:31] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-28-68.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:31] thrice`: make it happen ;-) [14:31] yeah, it's definitely not common [14:31] aryr100 (~aryr100@64.132.183.186) joined ##slackware. [14:31] thrice`: nice to hear you're doing it :P [14:31] lol [14:31] sbopkg -i would be nice :) [14:31] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [14:32] bah, I hate broken makefiles :( [14:33] anyone perhaps know how this is supposed to work? http://pastebin.ca/1922161 [14:33] damn, sbopkg bug I guess =/ [14:34] I might try zsh completions because I need to update some [14:35] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC4F4.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [14:35] pprkut: wag: should 'shell' be '$SHELL' or something like? [14:36] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [14:36] pprkut: lol :P [14:36] $(shell ...) works [14:37] adrien: what's an sbopkg bug? [14:37] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] dunno yet [14:37] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [14:37] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [14:37] I'm getting my term flooded with "Unknown response", not sure yet what's causing it [14:38] adrien, slakmagik: I'm trying to disable the two targets inside the if. If I'm reading it correctly, making "git2log" not executable should do the trick [14:38] but it doesn't :/ [14:38] seanaustin (~sean@173.154.250.99) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:40] pprkut: are we sure if(n)eq isn't true when a variable is "" (empty string but still defined) [14:40] adrien: that means you're not giving a 'y','n','whatever' answer when sbopkg asks you a question [14:40] slakmagik: I'm not typing anything! [14:40] slakmagik: I think there's an "echo" lost somewhere [14:41] adrien: I haven't written the code. I'm trying to debug it :P [14:41] maybe after a failed build, will see [14:41] aka, no I'm not sure at all [14:41] right - if anything's in the buffer that doesn't match a valid response, that'll do it. If you can tell me how to reproduce, I'll look at it [14:41] lamah (~ghost@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [14:41] bah, it's flooding me, and yeah, it looks like a failed package [14:41] re [14:41] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:42] after creating of initrd image i have mount of /dev/sdb5 to /mnt failed and then no /sbin/init found, etc. etc. what is that? [14:42] on boot of new kernel [14:42] hmm, might have found it [14:42] i dont use a slack 5 years [14:42] everything is a NEW [14:43] slakmagik: told it to check for updates, edited the build queue a bit and ran it, I had to ^C sbopkg twice or thrice [14:43] lamah, sounds like your initrd isn't created properly, *or* you didn't tell lilo.conf about your lilo.conf [14:43] er [14:43] thrice`: i don't have a lilo [14:43] pprkut: I have the same impression as adrien - ought to work - sorry for being thick here but why not just comment out the block or delete it? Why do you need to 'fail to execute it', so to speak? [14:43] tell lilo.conf about your initrd.gz [14:43] lamah, ok, didn't tell $whatever_bootloader_you_are_using about the initrd.gz [14:43] adrien: could you pastebin the buildqueue you're using? [14:43] slakmagik: so, might be when processing queues (running latest) [14:43] slakmagik: sure [14:44] thrice`: i don't have a boot loader for slackware , i have other os and there i have added initrd.gz into grub [14:44] lamah, you included support for the file system in your initrd.gz ? [14:44] slakmagik: I try to get around with as little patching as necessary. That code is in the upstream makefile. If I can use it as intended I spare myself the patching [14:45] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [14:45] thrice`: i made the image with mkinitrd, mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.35.3 -m ext4 -f ext4 -r /dev/sdb5, i am using ext4 and slack is on sdb5 [14:45] lamah, ok, that's good then. paste your grub config perhaps? [14:45] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: é bronca, nego velho [14:45] thrice`: something is wrong:) [14:45] thrice`: ok... [14:46] lamah, why use an initrd.gz at all, if you're compiling a custom kernel? [14:46] aryr100 (~aryr100@64.132.183.186) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:46] thrice`: kernel /boot/vmlinuz ro root=/dev/sdb5 vga=0x318 for kernel parameters and initrd /boot/initrd.gz for initrd [14:46] thrice`: i don't know someone here it tells me if i want a new custom kernel i need initrd.gz? [14:47] thrice`: thats is my grub parameters [14:47] slakmagik: first, the current output: http://pastebin.com/N3xwdeTA [14:47] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-25-7-121.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:47] lamah, mm, that looks OK too :( sorry, not sure then [14:47] thrice`: me too [14:48] pprkut: ah, got you [14:48] thrice`: thanks:) [14:48] adrien: thanks - looking now [14:48] slakmagik: damn, looks like the queue got emptied =/ [14:48] going to try to reprodue [14:48] thrice`: does i need correct system map? [14:48] thrice`: ... System.map for new kernel on boot is a old huge one [14:49] lamah, shouldn't matter, no; the kernel isn't getting that far [14:49] yes... [14:49] you can boot the default slackware kernels I'd guess? [14:49] thrice`: yes [14:49] hba (~hba@189.130.46.63) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:50] i have an idea [14:50] :) [14:50] okay - another thing you might try is to run sbopkg as 'sbopkg -e continue' or something like. Though, even if that worked, if there actually was a bug, it'd just be sweeping it under the carpet [14:51] not having much luck reproducing right now =/ [14:51] thrice`: diag2.img diag1.img what is that? [14:51] i had another issue with wget the other day.. it would download a file all the way to the end, and then just hang there like it didnt get EOF from the ftp server or something [14:51] thrice`: in boot? [14:52] macavity: wait until it timed out? [14:52] lamah, nothing slackware related, I don't think [14:52] adrien: no, i just hit ctrl-c and ran slackpkg again [14:52] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [14:53] its like it fscks up the bytecount or something [14:53] okay - well, I'm glad you brought it up - there was another phantom glitch with the 'invalid input' thing, so I'll try to look into it even if I can't reproduce it [14:53] aah ok [14:53] macavity: isn't there an "ignore what the server's telling me" switch for wget? [14:53] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:53] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:54] Eric_Liu (Eric_Liu@123.115.209.165) joined ##slackware. [14:54] slakmagik: it says "Filesize $FOOkB (Unathorative)" anyhow, so i suggest it does its own thing to determin when the file is downloaded [14:54] slakmagik: but i am fairly sure that ftp.slackware.no doesnt do anything non-standard [14:54] slakmagik: it has been a good and stable mirror for me for years and years [14:55] okay - fwiw, the '--ignore-length' flag was what I was thinking of but, from what you say, I guess that won't help [14:55] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [14:55] besides, the symptom it documents addressing isn't what you were getting [14:55] happening again :-) [14:56] well, that and that you're using ftp ;) [14:56] heh, it's flooding my term in under a second :P [14:59] adrien: hm, it would have been a good idea to ask you what version you're using in the first place. I forgot that the current prompt code isn't in 0.33.2. [14:59] slakmagik: latest, and it seems to only happen if I'm using the "updates" feature [15:00] lastest as in 0.33.2 or latest as in 'from svn'? [15:00] okay, at least that narrows it down :) [15:01] latest packaged: 0.33.2 [15:02] burshki (dcash@2002:442f:ac31:0:21e:65ff:fed1:4a6) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:02] evilaz (~user@cpe-075-176-171-074.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:03] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [15:03] okay - if you wanted to, you could try what's in svn to see if it still happens, but you may not want to - svn's a bit different. [15:03] ok, in a moment [15:04] wait, do you mean "it only happens when building from the queue the updates feature generates"? And can you save that qyeye and pastebin it? [15:04] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-47-248.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:04] hey - we're in the wrong channel - do you want to move this to #sbopkg? [15:05] you see the rape charges against the wikileaks founder have been dropped [15:05] I have to use the "updates" feature, add to queue, and when I process, it happens (I'm also removing packaged, I'm going to check if it happens if I don't) [15:05] kleanchap (~scotty@p5B11967B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:05] also, it happens after a failed package [15:06] okay - well, I can rig a test queue that will find a package that will fail in that process. Might not get to it right away, but soon. Thanks. [15:07] sorry non-sbopkg-using fellow slackers :) [15:07] conky without audacious installed :P [15:08] EvanR (~evan@ip70-180-53-21.br.br.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:08] well, there's your bug - for a non-daemon music player, audacious is great and should be installed. ;) [15:08] i am having a hard time getting scim set up, i used the packages from the disk, running xfce, put some envvars into xinitrc, scim runs, but i cant do ctrl+space :( [15:09] slakmagik: ^^ [15:09] also happens if I don't delete packages from the lsit [15:09] also, when I exit, it damages my shell (need to run "reset") [15:11] adrien: okay - I'll look into both of those [15:11] haven't tried svn yet [15:11] jcn0 (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:12] ok, i found that i have no real use of gsb [15:12] s/of/for/ [15:12] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:12] you killed shonudo ;p [15:12] adrien, well, if i had a faster machine, with more memory, it'd be a different story [15:13] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:14] why don't you actually have a use for it? [15:14] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] slakmagik: how do you make the package? I mean: from where do you call the slackbuild? [15:16] adrien: um ? they're executables. [15:16] Action: lamah is away, auto-away after 15 minutes [15:16] Nick change: lamah -> FantomAway [15:16] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [15:16] FantomAway kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [15:16] neonflux (~neonflux@173-11-86-161-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [15:16] adaptr: I wanted to make a package but you're right, I'll just cp it :P [15:16] adrien: OUTPUT=/opt/yourpackagedir sh yourslackbuild [15:16] is what I use [15:17] to keep them together [15:17] um, to build an svn package, just download and run 'sspm' [15:17] a slackbuild is required to create the appropriate directory structure under its calling dir. you don't need to do aything [15:17] ah, ok [15:18] inconnu (~user@69-165-217-79.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [15:18] or under /tmp, I don't know if there are rules for that [15:18] /tmp is usually safe, it's what sbopkg uses [15:18] adaptr: nah, it's because sbopkg's svn has a specific directory structure [15:18] however, for lagre packages, make sure you have enough space wherever it's going to build [15:19] if you have /tmp on tmpfs, for instance, you might run out of memory rather quickly [15:19] inconnu (~user@69-165-217-79.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:21] inconnu (~user@69-165-217-79.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [15:21] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:25] slakmagik: seems ok in svn [15:25] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC4F4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] yeah, looks good =) [15:29] adrien: good, I'm glad :) - I'm using it myself and it seems to work fine but I need to specifically test it some more and, if it still seems good, release it finally [15:31] slakmagik: ok, nice to hear, another question: I wasn't able to use sbopkg to check for an update: kept telling me the site was down/couldn't be contacted (was in 0.30)? (I updated by hand) [15:31] foldy (~foldy@mail.foldy.org) joined ##slackware. [15:32] linuxgoob (~linuxgoob@adsl-99-73-24-226.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:32] awful, for the last week i've tried several music players, but none of them is 100% perfect (bugs, unfinished features etc.), and none of them can replace amarok 1.4 [15:33] if you mean have sbopkg check for an update to itself, yeah, that was broken in one release around there and has since been fixed [15:33] so had to install kde3-compat and amarok 1.4 [15:34] slakmagik: ok :-) [15:34] and thanks for sbopkg =) [15:34] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:35] well, on behalf of Chess and Mauro, you're welcome :) [15:35] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-28-68.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [15:35] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [15:35] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-39-38.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:36] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:37] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [15:37] my asus u81 x window flickers with i915 or vesa drivers. Looking for suggestions. (13.1) [15:41] Eric_Liu (Eric_Liu@123.115.209.165) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:41] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [15:44] nachox (~Ignacio@133-74-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [15:46] anyone have success with the scim packages on slack13 install disks [15:49] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [15:49] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:49] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [15:51] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [15:51] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Client Quit [15:52] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:52] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:52] greetings and salutations [15:52] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Client Quit [15:53] o/ andarius :-) [15:53] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:53] salutations macavity, how goes ? [15:55] UnderGod (~undergod2@d51A45118.access.telenet.be) joined ##slackware. [15:56] evening [15:56] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Client Quit [15:57] quick question about jdk [15:57] I'm used to gentoo and the easy-ness of java-config [15:57] have to setup java on a slack box now [15:57] jdk has been added to path without a problem [15:57] allthough I can't get the box to remember the java_home [15:57] when I do a export, it works, but doesn't remember it [15:57] I put it in /etc/profile [15:57] but apparently it allways reloads the standard one [15:57] *help* [15:58] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. 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[16:13] what would be a way to convert and .m4a podcast to an .mp3 [16:14] lamah (~ghost@fedora/lamah) left irc: Client Quit [16:14] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:15] UnderGod: The standard JAVA_HOME might be loaded from /etc/profile.d/jdk.sh after you specified it in /etc/profile [16:18] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:24] thx ridout :) [16:25] UnderGod: Why change things though? Aren't the defaults settings fine? [16:25] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. 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[17:00] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-45-240.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:02] Nick change: MrJacks0n -> MrJackson [17:03] Is there anyone who's good with Ubuntu in here that doesn't mind helping out a bit [17:03] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:03] why would they be here? [17:03] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-89.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:03] but i am using logical drive, may there is a issue [17:04] just asking [17:04] i'm just guessing here, but wouldn't you stand a better chance in a channe at least associated with ubuntu? [17:05] haha, the irony [17:05] ubuntu sucks and fucks [17:05] ubuntu is such a load of crap that even the experts that hang on #ubuntu can't even answer questions decently, so they send them over here :p [17:06] lamah, does it suck and fuck well or poorly? [17:06] ki2azy: poorly this is the lame distro PROPAGANDA [17:06] linux propaganda like winblows friendly [17:06] it is the first of lame distro [17:07] i dunno, but its seems to me like going to burger king to get a big mac [17:07] Hmm so debian was just troll, and ubuntu perfected it ? [17:07] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:07] wat [17:07] now chuck norris can do it, and get one, but i don't know about you other guys [17:07] lamah, ah. [17:10] not to bash unbuntu but i guess a consequence of pursuing an unskilled userbase is that the users can't help each other [17:12] andrew_708476 (owner@203-219-209-86.static.tpgi.com.au) left ##slackware. [17:13] duet (~duet@71.21.89.86) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:13] is also an aweful lot of different layers one has to work your through in ubuntu when you wants change something [17:13] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:14] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:14] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:15] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [17:15] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:17] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [17:17] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:17] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:21] neonflux (~neonflux@173-11-86-161-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:22] is there a such thing as a linux / open-source song? [17:22] i could do with one right now [17:22] dustybin: i only know the nethack song. =] [17:23] haha any links? [17:23] http://partiallyclips.com/filk/nethack/ [17:24] ACE :D [17:24] dustybin: it's pretty excellent [17:24] =D [17:24] im sure richard stallman has made a few? [17:24] dustybin: let's hope not? [17:24] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425655.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [17:24] http://gprime.net/video.php/kill9 [17:24] dustybin: i don't want to imagine him singing, having heard him talk. [17:24] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:25] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425655.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:25] lamah (~ghost@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: lPt [17:25] i love the the good vibe :D [17:25] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [17:25] dustybin, http://www.gnu.org/music/free-software-song.html [17:25] before open-source, it was public domain in the amiga days [17:25] what happened to public domain [17:26] aziztcf: hahahahahahahahahaha [17:26] HAHAHAHAAAAHAHAH [17:26] i love that tune [17:27] i have heard mr stallman singing that [17:27] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain [17:28] in the amiga days, the cool stuff was in public domain [17:28] aziztcf: any idea where this is from (what school?) [17:29] nope [17:30] stanford says googles [17:30] it's almost funnier that parts of are so half-hearted, and how stoic the crowd is. [17:31] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:31] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:31] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:35] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:36] make more ;) [17:40] neonflux (~neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:44] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:44] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [17:45] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [17:45] inconnu (~user@69-165-217-79.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:45] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [17:46] is it possible to mount an iso without being root? [17:47] test34 (~test34@c-69-244-243-126.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[17:59] jack horkheimer, the star hustler has passed away at the age of 72 [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425655.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:05] Roin (~florian@p5B2BC4F4.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: good night o/ [18:05] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-425655.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:09] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:10] linXea (~Slackytux@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:12] hmm, why can't I create an Xnest server at a lower color depth? nvidia drivers? [18:14] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) joined ##slackware. [18:14] linXea (~Slackytux@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [18:14] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:18] hackedhead: dunno, but you might want to try Xephyr instead, it's much more recent and much better afaik [18:20] adrien: yeah i was just reading about it. is there a Sbo? [18:20] hackedhead: it's included in slackware [18:20] since 13.0 I think [18:20] adrien: bugger. still running 12.2 [18:20] hmmm [18:20] oh wait no [18:20] 13.0 [18:21] xD [18:21] i have it [18:21] hello, what group is it you add to be able to mount drives without root priv ? [18:23] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [18:25] adrien: thanks. Xephyr appears to work properly. (sadly wine and riven are not playing nice, but that's a separate matter [18:25] linXea: plugdev maybe? for USB drives and the like [18:26] ah, now I remember, thank you [18:26] and cdrom for discs, iirc [18:26] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-28-162-106.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:26] plugdev was the one I was looking for [18:27] good [18:27] now, good night =) [18:27] good night =] [18:31] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.59.156.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [18:35] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.44.82) joined ##slackware. [18:39] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.44.82) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:39] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:39] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:42] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:42] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [18:42] question, which package has gnome-doc-utils in it? [18:44] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [18:44] some third party package. [18:48] gnome-doc-utils-0.20.1-noarch-1gsb.txz. But saying that, there is a /usr/share/gnome-doc-utils in linuxdoc-tools-0.9.66-$ARCH-2 [18:48] BP{k}, ok, thanks [18:48] thrice`_ (~andrew@c-76-112-75-106.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:48] BP{k}, i removed gsb and was trying to install sbo gdm [18:50] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [18:50] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-45-172-239.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [18:52] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.24.203) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:55] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.22.239) joined ##slackware. [18:55] thrice`_ (andrew@c-76-112-75-106.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [18:57] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-185-230.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:59] esteeven (~esteeven@82.46.26.138) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:07] rworkman, any chance of playing with x-server 1.9 ? [19:08] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:10] ashe (~ashe@118.96.221.96) joined ##slackware. [19:11] wow.. 1.9 is out? [19:12] yep :> seems like mostly improvements to 1.8, nothing too huge feature-wise [19:16] hba (~hba@189.130.46.63) joined ##slackware. [19:17] good.. time for some stabilization then :-) [19:19] lulz.. the youngest just claimed that chineese technoly is not the same as human technology :P [19:19] uhm.. wrong chan [19:20] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.44.82) joined ##slackware. [19:22] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:23] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-28-162-106.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:23] macavity (~macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:23] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-28-68.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:27] be interesting see. I have a few older ATI GPUs that are no longer supported with fglrx. Slack13.1 gave quite a boost to a box with a 9600 [19:27] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:29] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-126-183.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [19:30] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:31] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [19:31] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [19:31] and only slightly off topic: yu know what really bugs me? LCD monitors cap out at 1080 vert resolution. I can find a decent 22inch LCD greater that 1920x1080. who gives a rats but about HD. I want pixels!!! [19:32] I feel better now. thanks for listening.. [19:32] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.59.156.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:33] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:00] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:01] ^kleanchap (~scotty@p5B11A7F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [20:04] huh WTF , Angela Merkel was a fortran programmer :D [20:05] kleanchap (~scotty@p5B11967B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:05] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [20:07] ahh shes quantum chemist btw [20:09] speller (speller@122.6.66.25) joined ##slackware. [20:13] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [20:21] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:22] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [20:24] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [20:25] and in the USA we vote in lawyers [20:25] and rich lay-abouts [20:26] DarkHack (~xterm@unaffiliated/darkhack) left irc: Quit: The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? [20:28] DarkHack (darkhack@just.use.xterm.co.cc) joined ##slackware. [20:28] DarkHack (darkhack@just.use.xterm.co.cc) left irc: Changing host [20:28] DarkHack (darkhack@unaffiliated/darkhack) joined ##slackware. [20:32] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722145641] [20:33] john_dee (~id@95-29-145-125.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [20:39] good that paul424 quit ... he was giving me nightmares. [20:39] mmmm... fun with 2.6.35 [20:40] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:40] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-161-197.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:40] jg71, do and unfiltered google image search for "Angela Merkel" [20:40] NaCl, good fun or bad fun? [20:41] variable fun [20:41] john_dee (~id@95-29-144-219.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [20:41] kingbeowulf: i dont need to. shes ... take an educated guess. hint, i knew of her before. [20:41] i only wonder who voted for her. no wait, i dont. [20:42] kingbeowulf: some stuff works. Other stuff does not [20:42] jg71, I havent keep up wit German politics but do remember out former Pres Bush giving here a neck rub. [20:43] NaCl, hwt kind of stuff. hardware or software issues [20:43] I was thinking of giving it a whirl one of these days when I have time to kill [20:43] kingbeowulf: the sex tape never made it to the public. [20:44] kingbeowulf: Well, the ralink usb drivers work [20:44] eewww [20:44] yay for USB [20:44] and I can't get X to be happy w/o fglrx [20:44] NaCl, you saw this, no? http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/08/20/234248/Open-Source-2D-3D-Drivers-For-ATI-Radeon-HD-5000-Series?from=rss [20:44] thats odd...I was hoping bett ATI X support. [20:45] maybe have to update X as well [20:45] Akuma (~Akuma@modemcable099.110-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:47] thrice`: yes [20:47] but I'm not exactly in a position to rebuild mesa [20:47] unless you want to tell me how. :P [20:48] or by "tell", "point me at something that could tell me" [20:48] I'm more interested in the "obsolete" ATI GPUs I have. [20:48] still supported [20:48] lol; I think I have a 9700 pro around here some place :p [20:48] my "obsolete" one works fine with the FOSS drivers [20:49] I have a 9600 that is ok in base Slack13.1, but the X1250 is a bit gimpy [20:50] that should work with fglrx, no? [20:51] john_dee (~id@95-29-144-219.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [20:52] i_is_cat (~i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:52] older fglrx only. ATI dropped support [20:53] lotec (~lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:53] hm [20:53] so no bug fixes. Interesting that Nvidia provided bug fixes in drivers for legacy GPUs but ATI does not [20:53] D1ver (~chatzilla@ppp121-45-172-239.lns20.syd6.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.6/20100721141910] [20:53] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [20:53] fglrx is a lot better than it used to be [20:54] Thats what I hear. but no joy for older stuff [20:55] artvdroid (~androirc@133.sub-174-223-171.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [20:55] call me a fan boy but Nvidia blobs always where much easier to install and use [20:56] neonflux (~neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:58] Akuma (~Akuma@modemcable099.110-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:59] artvdroid (~androirc@133.sub-174-223-171.myvzw.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:01] i_is_cat (~i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:21] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:23] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [21:24] valaris (~valaris@ip24-253-21-27.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:24] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:25] Hey. Im using the newest release of slack64 on a macbook pro. How can i automate synclient to run on bootup? Currently I must manually run synclient TapButton1=0 to disable tap touching. [21:25] valaris, probably need a file in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ [21:26] have a look in that dir for some readymade ones and edit one [21:27] dive: Thanks, i read something about this on a unbuntu forum...unfortunately there are no examples in the dir currently. [21:27] dive: But if that is really the way to go I'll look up how to do it. [21:27] should some subdirs [21:27] should be* [21:28] /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor has a few [21:28] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:28] take one of those and move it up to policy/ [21:29] dive: Hmm nope currently /etc/hal/fdi/policy is totally empty. [21:29] weird [21:30] neonflux (~neonflux@173-11-86-161-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [21:31] do you have xf86-input-synaptics-1.2.2-i486-1 installed? [21:31] that contains 11-x11-synaptics.fdi [21:32] dive: I'm still a basic linux user :P How do i check that? I know that i'm able to run a synaptic suite of tools such as synclient. [21:32] ls /var/log/packages/xf86-input-synaptics* [21:33] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-142-9.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:34] dive: Ok yes there is an item in that dir [21:34] ls -l /etc/hal [21:34] dive: err it does exist. I have the package installed. [21:34] Sir_Konrad (~Sir_Konra@unaffiliated/sir-konrad/x-6204516) joined ##slackware. [21:34] G'day(or g'evenin'), folks [21:35] hi MLanden [21:35] dive: fdi [21:35] heya dive [21:35] dive: drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2010-03-12 16:58 fdi/ [21:35] valaris, ok then have a look in /usr/share/hal/fdi/ [21:36] /usr/share/hal/fdi/10osvendor [21:36] dive: information/ policy/ preprobe/ [21:36] you use /etc/hal to override system stuff in /usr/share [21:36] er, /usr/share/hal [21:36] er sorry my fault: /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/ [21:37] dive: Ok cool that directory exists :) [21:37] should be a 11-x11-synaptics.fdi in there you can move to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ [21:37] then edit it to your needs [21:38] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [21:38] dive: Ahh awesome too cool :) Thanks! [21:38] no problem [21:39] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-127-17-34.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:53] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:53] I don't know if it's all for X [21:53] vldmr (1000@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [21:53] general hal stuff I expect [21:53] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6AF5F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] kakoi (~slackware@189-19-100-111.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: just do it [www.fulltscript.com] [21:54] dive: Err what is hal? What should i lookup on google to learn more? Is it a slackware thing? [21:54] speller (speller@122.6.66.25) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:54] Harware Abstraction Layer - not slack specific [21:55] it's this? http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/hal [21:55] yep [21:56] at some point X is going to stop using hal and use udev instead [21:56] Uh oh. Something else that i've never heard of :) [21:56] ilker (ilker@88.241.146.78) left ##slackware ("nn"). [21:56] neonflux (~neonflux@173-11-86-161-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [21:56] goj (~goj@p4FE6B9B7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:56] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:56] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:57] john_dee (~id@95-29-144-219.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:58] udev is responsible for populating the /dev directory with devices [21:58] Oh I see [21:58] Actually, that's kernel's job mostly these days :) [21:58] well true [21:59] Well, it's both. udev is the kernel's userspace :) [22:00] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [22:03] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722145641] [22:04] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:04] dive: devtmpfs populates most of /dev. udev give to they the correct permissions, owner, groups and symlinks. [22:04] ah right [22:06] all good to know [22:07] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:10] PiterPunk: So what does this HAL do? [22:11] hal closes the pod bay doors, duh [22:11] valaris: hmmm... "nothing" HAL presents the hardware to userspace [22:12] lol skywise [22:12] PiterPunk: Oh ok. So it just provides a way to configure hardware? [22:13] valaris, kinda; or, a layer that desktop environments use to interact with the hardware [22:14] Oh ok. [22:15] HAL controls the weapon [22:15] Dominian (dominian@about/linux/staff/dominian) left irc: Quit: brb server reboot for new kernel [22:15] thrice` (thrice@slackadelic.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:17] valaris, if you use kde, xfce for example and pop in a CD or a USB stick, drive etc. then it pops up a friendly icon/message window. That comes about through hal and dbus and the DE reacting to them. [22:18] har (~harley@c-71-193-120-231.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:18] Oh ok cool [22:19] handy stuff for user friendliness [22:20] valaris: Let's say... you plug a pendrive, kernel creates the /dev/sd[a-z], udev puts the correct permissions, owner, group and creates many symlinks (/dev/disk/by-id/...), HAL shows the partition with their names and capabilities to KDE/XFCE/IVMAN/WHATEVER and finally, KDE/XFCE shows an icon to you or the actions to that device. [22:21] valaris: but don't worry... HAL'll die soon. Some of his functionality will be merged on udev others goes to other projects... [22:22] upower, udisk, uwhatever, ... [22:22] oy, the dependencies [22:22] gnome-commander has insane deps [22:23] really? [22:23] more than the average gnome? [22:24] john_dee (~id@95-29-144-219.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [22:24] dive, rather, libgnome has the insane deps [22:24] dive, that's the biggie on it [22:28] OffPlanet (~meler@ppp-69-233-96-143.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [22:31] PiterPunk: Thanks that makes sense. [22:31] PiterPunk: I feel like a totally nooby coming over from being a windows developer for so long. The most I used nix was for basic things in college. Now I'm exploring it as a hobby. Much to learn :) [22:33] valaris: well, that devtmpfs+udev+hal stuff isn't really an nix stuff. Linux stuff it is. [22:33] damn... Yoda talking. [22:34] haha [22:34] Hard to see the dark side it is. [22:34] Hahaha :) [22:34] Ahh ok PiterPunk [22:34] Action: MLanden does a diabolical laugh like Mark Hamill...;*) [22:38] Yoda talk, that is not [22:49] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:49] thrice` (~ajb@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) joined ##slackware. [22:49] lol [22:50] C_E_N (ad4d7598@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.117.152) joined ##slackware. [22:50] C_E_N (ad4d7598@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.77.117.152) left ##slackware. 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[23:06] tyvm, google saves the day :P [23:07] Akuma (~Akuma@modemcable099.110-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:07] What is the best way to setup sound in slackware? It seems to be the last thing I don't have working after the install. lspci lists my sound device as nvidia MCP79. I was reading that ALSA handles all sound in linux? [23:08] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [23:08] sound has always worked by default for me on slackware [23:08] always [23:08] check alsamixer to make sure things are not muted by default [23:08] valaris: if sound does work out of the box you are in for a serious round of fscking about with your system [23:09] ah.. i_is_cat++ [23:09] by not working i assume module not loaded, or module loaded and dmesg says "what?!? i cant work with this crap" [23:10] s/loaded/loading [23:10] Hmm well my volume is maxed and sound-test isn't playing anything. [23:11] err nm thats not the cmd i was using [23:11] valaris: you could try running alsaconf assuming you're doing this via alsa [23:12] alsaconf says no pci or pnp card found. [23:13] supported* [23:14] There's problem number 1 [23:15] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:15] valaris: is this a notebook? [23:15] Yes it is. Macbook pro. [23:15] :/ [23:16] brand spanking new? [23:16] valaris: which model? [23:16] having any issues with the trackpad out of curiosity? [23:16] hba (~hba@189.130.46.63) joined ##slackware. [23:16] No trackpad works good. [23:16] damn.. the trackpad on the macbook i have here doesnt work worth a damn no matter what i do to fix it.. [23:17] This is the newest model out right now. [23:17] 13" [23:17] i mean, good for you :) just damn cuz i thought there might be someone else to work with on this.. lol [23:17] So not the i7 family. [23:17] haha :P [23:18] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [23:18] alsamixer seems to see its an nvidia sound device [23:18] so it shows up in alsamixer? [23:18] Yes [23:18] what happens if you press M? [23:18] any of the items have mm on the bottom? [23:19] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [23:19] they can still be maxed but muted.. [23:19] happens to me on some systems after a fresh install [23:20] if i press m it mutes it. Even kde here is showing the sound levels correctly. [23:20] valaris: Just out of curiosity are you running slackware's kernel or a custom on? [23:20] but nothing comes out the speakers.. what happens if you plug in headphones? [23:20] s/on/one [23:21] it *might* just be a switch problem (or if you are really really luckey, and apple ACPI blunder) [23:21] might also be sending sound to the hdmi port [23:21] ^kleanchap (~scotty@p5B11A7F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:21] valaris, on my nvidia based system, i need to have master, pcm, and front all unmuted for my sound to work through 2 pos little crap speakers, and the headphones unmuted for the front headphone jack.. so maybe its another item that is muted? [23:22] jgeboski: I am using a custom one at this point. But it didn't work either with slackwares. I also copied the old .config when i rebuilt the kernel. I am just using the newest one from kernel.org now. [23:23] What is the command line to test sound? [23:23] on my netbook, i need master, speaker and pcm all unmuted to hear sound from the built in speakers [23:23] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [23:24] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [23:25] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [23:25] Akuma (~Akuma@modemcable099.110-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:26] cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio [23:27] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [23:28] Nick change: agentc0re -> antiwire_ [23:28] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.97.49) joined ##slackware. [23:28] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:28] Nick change: antiwire_ -> Guest99104 [23:28] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.216.233) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:28] Nick change: Guest99104 -> agentc0re [23:28] asdfjkl (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [23:29] valaris: if you want to hear the voice of our master you can do zcat /boot/vmlinuz > /dev/audio instead ;-) [23:30] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.158.174) joined ##slackware. [23:31] valaris: what shows up from lspci | grep - i audio in root terminal? [23:31] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [23:32] hmm...that might be amusing to do that. [23:33] Well you guys were right. My front speaker was muted in alsamixer. How embarassing. [23:33] hey all [23:33] heya shonudo [23:34] hey MLanden... good evening [23:34] valaris: so it works now? [23:34] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:34] thrice` (~ajb@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) joined ##slackware. [23:35] valaris: i just scrolled up and read what happened... it's happened to me and probably to others [23:35] no big; now you know alsamixer [23:35] :) [23:35] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:36] Thanks again guys haha. So what alsa is just the generic sound driver that supports a bunch of different sound chips? [23:36] valaris: you might want to try recompile you kernel with only Sound support, and under that Open Sound System support.... then try and make your own slackware packages from alsa-driver and alsa-lib snapshots... http://www.alsa-project.org/snapshot/ [23:37] valaris: the versions there are 1.0.23.67 for driver, and 1.0.23.18 for lib... they have updates and bug fixes [23:38] Akuma (~Akuma@modemcable099.110-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:39] If it's a support issue, you should email Pat. Might do a update because of it. 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[23:47] They do offer x64 [23:47] 64-bit was discontinued / put on hold / killed off [23:48] thrice`: it was that bad? [23:48] read: not to be bothered with [23:48] thrice: Yes the 32bit so. [23:48] valaris: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.45.2.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz [23:48] shonudo: sure; they said "this release has a ton of security issues, but we're not going to fix it" [23:48] valaris: that's the link on SBo [23:49] valaris: 32-bit will only work if your system understands 32-bit (via. multilib) [23:49] Oh i see. I guess I need that then. [23:49] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-161-197.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:50] so, you can risk the security stuff and use the link jgeboski has above, or convert your entire system to multilb [23:50] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-18-161-197.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:51] valaris: you can use the 32-bit 10.1 flash for linux... install the nspluginwrapper package http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/nspluginwrapper/build/ [23:51] Dominian (~dominian@about/linux/staff/dominian) joined ##slackware. [23:51] valaris: well, this all needs multilib [23:52] Ok that 64 bit player worked great. [23:54] valaris: if you do this multilib thing, with nspluginwrapper, you have to add /usr/lib/seamonkey to /etc/ld.so.conf ... then you use nspluginwrapper -i as you normal firefox user [23:59] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.97.49) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:59] Does anyone know if Google Chrome is including flash in linux releases or just windows? [00:00] --- Sun Aug 22 2010