[00:00] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:01] zalost (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:01] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-14-172.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:07] I am totally at a loss here [00:08] For the first time in weeks [00:09] ? [00:09] fhobia, firefox+flash issue [00:10] oh [00:10] well if it helps i got pwned by moonlight [00:11] amazon10x (i=captain@liberstation.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:11] hiptobecubic, is firefox throwing you any errors? [00:11] amazon10x (i=captain@95.154.208.246) joined ##slackware. [00:11] Nick change: evilaz -> artv61 [00:12] MLanden, segfault on loadplugin() libflashplayer [00:12] _00_ (i=l00l@187.1.243.114) joined ##slackware. [00:12] jg71 (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:13] hiptobecubic: what does "grep lahf /proc/cpuinfo" tell you? [00:13] that i have lahf_lm [00:14] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [00:14] BP{k}, which is what? [00:14] jg71 (n=edud@76.74.129.199) joined ##slackware. [00:16] SOUL_OF_R00T (i=l00l@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:16] hiptobecubic: I don't know exactly what it is, but I know several laptops had that flag missing and it causes a problem with firefox+flash on x86_64 plaforms. [00:16] interesting [00:17] Well. This problem just started a few days ago and I hadn't upgraded firefox or anything so I think some software somewhere got borked, but i can't figure out what [00:18] it loads other plugins fine [00:18] http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/tag/lahf_lm/ [00:18] did you compiled FF or txz installed? [00:18] MAN KERNEL THINKS I"M IN CAPS AGAIN [00:19] YOU GUYS EVER GET THIS PROBLEM [00:19] ARGG [00:19] hiptobecubic: and the problem persists with a new user? [00:19] fhobia: tried typing "reset" on the command line? [00:19] BP{k}, Excellent question! [00:19] new mozilla profile can answer that [00:19] IT SAYS COMMAND NOT FOUND BPu...whoah it healed [00:19] powtrix, not necessarily [00:20] glad to be back [00:21] :) [00:22] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [00:23] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [00:23] to be sure it's not your profile, try mv ~/.mozilla{,.old}; mv ~/.firefox{,.old}; [00:23] creating a new user is easier :P [00:24] su needed :p [00:26] hiptobecubic, any changes to sqlite3 recently? [00:26] nope [00:27] powtrix: with a new user, which will have defaults, you are more sure there is no weird config issue [00:27] right [00:27] brb [00:27] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [00:27] i think the problem is permission [00:27] he could chown -R he:users ~/.mozilla [00:28] could be [00:30] mujahid (n=gabriel@189.120.130.32) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:31] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [00:32] So it DOES in fact work with a new users [00:32] a new user, rather. [00:32] SOUL_OF_R00T_ (i=l00l@187.1.243.114) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:32] glarb (i=1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:32] But it doesn't work with my user even if i delete ~/.mozilla [00:32] Action: spook stabs powtrix with a frozen eel [00:32] try chown you:user -R ~/.mozilla [00:32] powtrix, i tried "rm -rf ~/.mozilla" :) [00:32] hiptobecubic: reinstalled the firefox package? [00:33] spook, many times. and different versions. [00:33] spook, and the flashplayer plugin [00:33] hiptobecubic: nothing else funky with the system? [00:33] i don't know? i didn't think so. [00:33] standard install? [00:34] got some spare diskspace? try a fresh install. [00:34] so what plugins did you install in your profile? some ones have external config [00:34] daidoji (n=daidoji7@adsl-99-27-128-66.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "drinking time" [00:35] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:35] powtrix, it's a blank profile. [00:35] powtrix, rm -rf .mozilla [00:35] .firefox? [00:35] powtrix, doesn't exist [00:35] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [00:35] powtrix: just shut up while you're way behind. [00:35] In light of a recent mishap that involved my system chmod I suggest that everyone pipes the output of 'ls -alhR /' to a file for safe keeping. [00:36] antiwire: all file permissions? [00:36] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:36] yeah [00:36] why -h ? in case you want to lose some accuracy? [00:36] antiwire: oh was that the thing with the tar? [00:36] nope, it was a malformed chmod command I did as root [00:36] joseph_one (i=joseph_o@189.194.97.12) joined ##slackware. [00:37] oh. [00:37] and then I sat there for a few seconds before I realized what had happened thinking "gee, that took much longer than it should have..." [00:37] lol, sounds like it would have been fun. [00:38] antiwire, yeah i love when i do that [00:38] "man this is taking forever........ oh fuckballs" [00:38] hiptobecubic, 'firefox -safe-mode' ..open? [00:38] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.75.140) left irc: "Leaving" [00:38] powtrix, did it. crashes. [00:39] and 'firefox -jsconsole' ? [00:40] hiptobecubic: wait, lemme guess, it crashes [00:40] of course [00:41] alreadygone (i=1000@59.103.192.247) joined ##slackware. [00:42] it crashes w/ -jsconsole? [00:42] powtrix: no it works perfectly fine. [00:42] powtrix, it will open, but if i browse to a page with flash it crashes immediately, just like always [00:42] hiptobecubic: oh, so it crashes with flash. without flash its fine? [00:42] jsconsole returns me the error [00:46] yes [00:46] powtrix, no it doesn't, because everything crashes. [00:46] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:47] more importantly, as i pasted in here earlier, the error is already roughly known. [00:47] LoadPlugin() /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so returned 7f403e2c8850 [00:47] /usr/lib64/firefox-3.5.7/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 7310 Segmentation fault "$prog" ${1+"$@"} [00:48] 64bit flash isnt always the best [00:48] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.75.140) joined ##slackware. [00:49] no, but it does work. [00:49] sometimes. [00:49] until two days ago, firefox hadn't crashed on my since slackware64 came out [00:49] on me* [00:49] yeah, flash 64 plugin works just fine for me too [00:49] i wonder what changed for my user [00:50] because it works for user 'test' that i just made [00:50] its hit and miss for me, it'll work no prob for a few weeks then start crashing every load, though probably just because of a particular page [00:50] eviljames: you use flash from adobe? [00:50] yes. [00:51] What was that sudo command for sharing an xsession? sudo -s? sudo -x ? sudo -i ? [00:51] _00_ (i=l00l@187.1.243.114) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:51] su -s, apparently [00:51] Anyone have any use for a pci-->pcmcia adapter card? (it's a pci card that takes a pcmcia card) [00:52] rworkman: newp. I have a pcmcia slot in my laptop that I never, ever, ever, ever use though [00:52] Yeah. [00:52] I use them all the time for wireless cards still [00:52] I *thought* I was going to need one, but I didn't, but I'd already bought it. Never used the damn thing. [00:52] i don't even have one. this stupid hp has some proprietary nonsense i think [00:53] if it's an externally accessible card slot it's probably either pcard/pcmcia or express slot [00:53] pcard/pccard [00:53] antiwire: it's definitely pcmcia [00:54] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [00:54] I mean to aim that at hiptobecubic [00:55] rworkman, which type? [00:55] I've never seen any proprietary slot systems, proprietary connections like media ports or bays but not card slots [00:55] MLanden: disregard; I've got someone who wants it :) [00:57] joseph_one (i=joseph_o@189.194.97.12) left ##slackware. [00:57] rworkman, hmm? was just askin' if it was type I,II or III? [00:57] Kamel (n=1@c-76-123-106-217.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:58] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [00:58] Politics (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:58] MLanden: oh, I don't know really. There's nothing on the card to indicate, and I don't remember. [00:59] I bought it with the intention of using a pcmcia card from verizon, but ended up getting the usb instead [00:59] disco_stu (n=wrt54gl@190.216.32.137) joined ##slackware. [01:00] rworkman, ahh..I see [01:00] Hi ^^ [01:01] alisonken1lap (n=alisonke@laxnoc.alchemy.net) joined ##slackware. [01:01] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "Bored by the chore of saving face." [01:02] confusid (n=confusid@c-98-231-191-231.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:03] slackwarebob (n=bobby@76.249.232.61) joined ##slackware. [01:03] Hello People. [01:04] Kamel (n=1@c-76-123-106-217.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:04] Nick change: artv61 -> evilaz [01:05] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-66-99.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:11] Anyone here know how Windows 7 upgrade procedure works? Does it just require you put insert your OS disc? Does it check/care if the hardware is the same as the OS you're upgrading from? [01:11] nope. just put the disk in, reboot. also, don't download mirc [01:11] or any windows-based irc client. at all. [01:12] hah why? [01:12] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:13] it is part of the irc improvement act of 1999. shortly before the turn of the millennium, we all agreed to do one deed per day to improve irc for everyone. [01:13] That was mine for today. [01:13] llol [01:13] Damn, I haven't kicked anyone today. [01:13] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:13] Action: eviljames points at Rat409. [01:13] The guy misspelled "lol"... obviously you should kick him [01:13] thanks :( [01:13] Action: MLanden hands eviljames the red badge of discourage...cheers!! [01:14] But I can handle this. I'll just leave and go to bed. That's a good deed. [01:14] llol is the new way to laugh out loud.. loveingly laughing out loud or something.. [01:14] shouldn't we kick Wescotte for asking about Windows 7 ? [01:15] fhobia: I thought that is why rworkman brought it up actually :) [01:15] redux (n=poo@ppp118-208-106-144.lns20.bne4.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [01:15] 8) [01:15] Vista SP2 aka Windows 7 isn't forbidden afaik. It just shows that you aren't ready for linux.. [01:15] windows 7 was my idea [01:15] Windows 7 rocks! [01:15] fhobia: GTFO [01:15] :D [01:16] JimBob42 (i=nobody@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:16] lol GTFO = ? [01:16] eviljames: were you serious about the upgrade stuff? I'm stuck dual booting until a proper NLE/compositing app exists for linux [01:16] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.119.49) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:16] imma use google [01:16] lol [01:16] ok, i know what gtfo is now [01:16] Wescotte: I wouldn't know, I don't use legacy OS. [01:16] eviljames: eh linux is kinda legacy [01:17] urban dictionary has an entry for "tits or gtfo" ... [01:17] linux is not legacy. [01:17] everything links back to boobies in this world [01:17] linux is what legacy OS's use when they get home. [01:18] urthwrm (n=hooch@unaffiliated/urthwrm) joined ##slackware. [01:18] who does a guy have to flame around here to get a good conversation runnin'? [01:19] slackwarebob, that makes no sense... [01:19] redux (n=poo@ppp118-208-106-144.lns20.bne4.internode.on.net) left ##slackware. [01:19] that's good, run with that.... [01:20] ugh.. screw it I'll just pirate windows.. no way Im gonna drop $300 for Windows 7 when I have a vista license on my notebook I don't use [01:20] only to use 1 application [01:20] Why bother pirating windows at all? There are better options out there. [01:20] you didn't get the free upgrade? [01:20] What's the 1 application? [01:20] What application requires Seven? [01:20] Adobe CS4.. so I guess more than one.. but still :) [01:20] And wasn't seven a movie about serial killers? Bad naming move. [01:20] Adobe Premiere, After Affects and Photoshop [01:20] all my music production apps require windows, which don't have equivalents on linux. [01:21] I thought CS4 worked on Visduh. [01:21] I've heard they run very well under wine... [01:21] Wescotte: http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp [01:21] slackwarebob: I sincerely doubt that. [01:21] Actually, i did hear CS4 works better under Wine than CS3. [01:21] slackwarebob: Which application doesn't have a free alternative? [01:21] eviljames: I installed gentoo and ran a research for 6 mo. so I wouldn't have to pay money and run apps for free. [01:22] So? gentoo sucks. [01:22] eviljames: unless you can counter a 6 mo. research with some more than your doubt, I'll stick by the argument. [01:22] eviljames, I think slackwarebob is looking for conversation. [01:22] By trolling poorly. [01:22] slackwarebob: Your argument does not stand, it has failed miserably under examination. [01:22] winehq says garbage for Premiere Pro CS4 [01:22] Motoko-chan: in this case, no flaming. just stating my experience. [01:22] slackwarebob: Thus far, you have yet to name a single app that does not have a free alternative. [01:22] Well I figured it out. Somehow ~/.adobe and ~/.macromedia were chmod -w [01:22] Wescotte, Premiere is garbage. [01:22] eviljames: no, we didn't get to you asking part yet. [01:23] aside from my clock being wrong... [01:23] FLStudio, Reason, and Reaper are the ones I use primarily anymore. [01:23] Action: Motoko-chan rather likes Vegas [01:23] eviljames: ^ [01:23] Motoko-chan: it does.. But I have vista 32 from my notebook and my PC I just build has 12GB ram so not really worth running on a 32bit OS :) [01:23] slackwarebob: Ardour, hydrogen and what does reason do? [01:23] Wescotte, VM. [01:23] eviljames: I ran quite a few others, including ReBirth. [01:23] Then you can run inside Linux. [01:23] slackwarebob: what does rebirth do? [01:23] Anybody currently undertaking a CS degree? [01:23] Motoko-chan: I don't like Premiere either but I like it more than Vegas.. [01:23] Action: Motoko-chan has a BA degree [01:24] eviljames: seriously if you think Ardour rivals Reaper, I will have to ask you to verify that you actually record music and use VST plugins and etc. [01:24] urthwrm: me, as a second major [01:24] urthwrm: I am [01:24] Wescotte, maybe they improved it since. [01:24] slackwarebob: I actually record music, but use lash plugins, not vst [01:24] I haven't used since Vegas 3 or so. [01:24] slackwarebob: though, I have heard that vst can be used. [01:24] eviljames: I have used hyrdogen extensively. FLStudio is an entire DAW now. It has not equivalent in either Ardour or Hydrogen. [01:24] Motoko-chan: both are pretty crappy.. I'm just not willing to go Mac/FCP [01:24] Action: Motoko-chan misses Sonic Foundry [01:24] Hydrogen's kit control is the poorest out of all the ones I have tried for free. [01:25] Wescotte: eviljames, What kind of math is involved? I've been watching numerous CS lectures from the university where i'm going, and the math level there asking for just isn't present in the lectures [01:25] Motoko-chan: holding out for Lumiera [01:25] slackwarebob: name a free drum machine that is better than hydrogen. [01:25] slackwarebob: free like speach, btw. [01:25] urthwrm: they require 2 semesters of calc and like 2 math electives here [01:25] One of my co-workers plays the ZenDrum. [01:25] eviljames: I don't care abuot free. I like to have a quality drum machine. So in that the argument is kinda stacked. [01:25] slackwarebob: So, you have paid for all your studio software? [01:26] eviljames: I'd like to use Easy Drummer and Addictive drums. [01:26] eviljames: eventually, I will. I'm in the process of buying slowly what I like. [01:26] would like an app like "reason" on linux :-D [01:26] I'm going to have to try this "reason" [01:26] Wescotte: Yeah, i'm required to choose two math electives aswell. Was just curious about what level of math is needed :-) [01:26] So far, I've found that a combination of rosegarden, zynaddsubfx, jack, lash-rack, hydrogen, ardour and jamin have been more than all I need. [01:26] urthwrm: two semeters of calc is all that is required [01:27] urthwrm: take linear algebra and calc, 2 semesters of each, you'll be fine. [01:27] i run jeskola buzz in wine so far [01:27] hmm after effects seems to work under wine at least.. [01:27] tweakx (n=tweak@c-67-183-76-199.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:27] eviljames: Reason is free on windows. I am not sure if they have a linux version. if you really would like to try it. It is pretty cool. You only have to pay once you're done with evaluation. However long you might take. [01:27] jack was one of the thing I really didn't like. You can't do without it either. [01:27] linear algebra isn't required for CS degree here [01:28] rosegarden editor is poor. Download FLStudio demo and try it for 3 mo. for free. Just see for yourself. [01:28] I tried my best to use rosegarden midi editor but it wasn't enough. In FLStudio you can mix MIDI, WAV, and synth generators all in one as well as soundfont players. One editor. Super control. [01:29] If it inspires me to code more for free audio software, I'll undertake your challenge slackwarebob. [01:29] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:29] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] eviljames: if there's good alternatives I'll switch. [01:30] giuppy (n=giuppy@host194-172-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Client Quit [01:30] I'll switch to linux recording. [01:31] slackwarebob: I'm already on a mission to prove it. [01:31] giuppy (n=giuppy@host194-172-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:32] eviljames: I like to use FLStudio 'coz I can throw in Addictive Drums, edit the drums beats, import midi, route each output of the drum machine to individual channel, throw on effects, put bass on an another channel, put synths on the next channels, put any industrial sounds on the next channel, do a mixdown and plug in my gits and recording in. [01:32] eviljames: i tried my best to be able to do that in linux. [01:32] one main thing is the VST plugin cache avaialable which would be nice to run in linux. [01:33] but reason and rebirth also do lot of electro, techno, music. [01:33] Action: eviljames hates those types of music [01:34] Electro has to be the most pathetic excuse for music. [01:34] sorry the need remains legit for those apps. [01:34] I do a lot of styles of music. metal and electronic both. [01:35] I'm moving more to metal as of late and haven't been able to record much. [01:36] trance is pretty cool. Personally, I don't like the techno as much. [01:36] pop, synth pop, europop, those are pretty cool. [01:37] back to ardour. it crashed horribly and had almost not FX. Although, after it causing issues, I didn't try to find many plugins. [01:38] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [01:42] foobarz (i=1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [01:43] I think ardour has come a long way in the last few versions. Along with proper documentation, it is a very capable program. [01:43] ComputerNewb (n=peter@c-67-180-200-131.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:44] good to talk about it. I'll try it again. [01:47] http://en.flossmanuals.net/ardour/ is worth looking at. [01:47] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:47] bookmarked. [01:48] the only thing is JACK is not too impressive. But if it has to be in the mix, it's alright. [01:48] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.207) joined ##slackware. [01:48] using qjackctl, I think jack is great. [01:48] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:48] Right, I used qjackctl also. [01:49] I kinda like that ardour has no drum machine, and I have to hook in hydrogen to do it. [01:49] I also like that hydrogen works well with or without being attached to a daw, or to jack. [01:49] but the only thing is I haven't heard a really good sample done on hydrogen. Even in the officials ones. when you need jackhammer death metal bass hits, it requires finer control. [01:50] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:50] for computer music hydrogen does well. It didn't simulate easy drummer type feel well. [01:50] yeah, I know a few people who are collecting links to good samples for hydrogen.. don't have any offhand, but I know they exist. [01:50] I used to use ns_kit when it was all free. [01:51] with leafDrums. On windows tho. 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[02:13] confusid: in /var/log/setup you can find the various scripts [02:14] ty [02:14] is there a way to get something other than xine to take over as the default media plugin in firefox? [02:14] Axius_ (n=fd@92.84.26.62) left irc: Client Quit [02:14] Axius (n=fd@92.84.26.62) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:14] Axius (n=fd@92.84.26.62) joined ##slackware. [02:14] Axius_ (n=fd@92.84.26.62) joined ##slackware. [02:15] hiptobecubic: hopefully [02:15] prashant (i=prashant@121.245.48.148) joined ##slackware. [02:16] wertik_rus (n=wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [02:16] EuroTrash (i=default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. 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[02:32] Axius_ (n=fd@92.84.26.62) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:34] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3814, sources date: 20091222, built on: 2010-01-09 17:48:42 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/" [02:35] With a fresh install of slackware do I need to configure pkg-path and setup which package install I want to use also is there one which handles dependencies for me? [02:35] package installer* [02:35] it is the system administrator's job to know the dependencies. [02:35] Delahunt (n=robert@fe219-115.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [02:36] I'm sol :) I'm trying to setup a desktop for personal use and learning [02:36] not to say "do watchu like" -_- [02:36] silverrocker (n=silverro@d5152FC9E.static.telenet.be) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:36] silverrocker (n=silverro@d5152FC9E.static.telenet.be) joined ##slackware. [02:36] a full install will do :) [02:37] did with / and swap then 2nd hd for /home :) [02:37] wertik_rus (n=wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: "Leaving" [02:37] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-155-158.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [02:37] Action: Delahunt would've done LVM+LUKS 8-) [02:37] is there a release date for the slackware version 3 book? [02:38] I did not see one on the site [02:38] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-155-158.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:39] Delahunt, I did ;) [02:39] it's great [02:42] ty for the help going to google a bit more and read read read.. [02:42] confusid (n=confusid@c-98-231-191-231.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:42] Ryzor (n=King@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:43] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [02:43] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-155-158.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. 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[03:06] if you don't know, I suggest the DVD [03:06] pupit1 (n=p@109.93.233.94) left irc: Client Quit [03:06] powtrix- (n=powtrix@189-69-16-119.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:06] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.159) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:06] adaptr, isnt that like too big? cant i just get like 2 .iso's instead or something? [03:06] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [03:07] like, I don't know, like, which ones ? [03:07] adaptr, thanks [03:07] brb [03:10] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-166.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:11] adaptr, dude, do i get the dvd.iso.asc ??? [03:11] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:11] sorry for being such a n00b [03:11] dude, is it about 4GB ? [03:11] perhaps you need to read the instructions [03:11] i dont think so, it says 197 with no units [03:12] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:12] no, the one that ends in .iso [03:12] Action: adaptr ponders that the entrance didn't look too promising to begin with.. "NEED HELP" [03:13] Delahunt (n=robert@fe219-115.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [03:14] adaptr, they have the dvd as torrents...damn [03:14] l1nUx1z3r: the .asc file is a plain text file with the gpg signed key for the iso - it's used to validate that the iso is good [03:14] macavity (n=macavity@212088073004.static.sonofon.dk) joined ##slackware. [03:14] xtrender1 (i=1000@89.214.108.225) joined ##slackware. [03:14] alisonken1lap, thanks, i noticed [03:16] Action: l1nUx1z3r is getting the dvd from torrent...aaarrrgghhh [03:16] that should be pretty quick [03:17] patience is a virtue. read the slackbook while you wait [03:17] sahk0++ [03:17] alreadygone (i=1000@59.103.192.247) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:18] sahk0, will do that [03:18] hey, do you think i should try arch or slackware first, like for a n00b, what would you recommend? [03:19] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Client Quit [03:19] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:20] nubibuntu [03:21] but look at you leet leet nickname i get the idea that Gentoo might be the right thing for you [03:21] macavity, why gentoo?? too much work, and the name's just a nick, dont read too much into it [03:22] point being: you are asking slackware fans if you should use slackware or something else [03:23] slack works. [03:23] go with that [03:23] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [03:24] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-18-27.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:24] macavity, yeah, i guess that was stoopid... [03:24] slackware also does not provide automated dependency resolution.. so do a full install [03:25] macavity, really?? but isnt it supposed to be minimal?? [03:25] no dude.. a full slackware install is +5GB [03:26] why do you think its a DVD you are sucking through the wire? [03:26] MLanden_ (n=MLanden@pool-141-152-185-224.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:27] coz i dont have an idea on which cd images i wanna get [03:27] :P [03:28] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-141-152-185-224.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:28] Action: l1nUx1z3r rolls over and dies [03:28] MLanden_ (n=MLanden@pool-141-152-185-224.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:28] l1nUx1z3r (n=ezekiel@115.135.163.146) left irc: "Leaving" [03:29] 1 is base system + console apps, 2 is x and xapps (and probably some more), and 3 is KDE, KDE-i18n, and some extras [03:29] the next three are source code [03:30] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.207) left irc: [03:30] powtrix- (n=powtrix@189-69-18-157.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:31] l1nUx1z3r (n=ezekiel@115.135.163.146) joined ##slackware. [03:31] 1 is base system + console apps, 2 is x and xapps (and probably some more), and 3 is KDE, KDE-i18n, and some extras [03:31] the next three are source code [03:31] l1nUx1z3r: ^^ [03:32] macavity, so mostly i just need 1 and 2 ...why am i getting the DVD then?? [03:33] "because you need to read before you proceede" :P [03:33] Action: macavity just made up that rhyme [03:33] macavity, yeah, thanks for telling me now [03:33] oh, you know we dont ship gnome, right? [03:33] cause its easier to install Slackware that way. plus you only need 1 disc. plus yeah^ you need to read the documentation before installing. [03:33] Action: l1nUx1z3r cancels the torrent download and walks to the coffee jar [03:34] macavity, yes, i READ that [03:34] btw the contents of each disc are explained in the page you got the torrent from [03:34] i agree with sahk0 here [03:34] powtrix| (n=powtrix@189-69-18-227.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:34] on both :P [03:34] sahk0, havent it occured to you the word "n00b", that maybe i might have not understood?? [03:35] l1nUx1z3r (n=ezekiel@115.135.163.146) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:35] n00b != unable to read [03:36] anyone here good at resumes i wont to know what i would need to highlight to get a job like this http://jobview.careerone.com.au/GetJob.aspx?JobID=85796890 [03:36] sahk0: the torrent page lists package sets [03:37] yeah i know [03:37] "Slackware 13.0 x86 Install ISO disc 1 (A/AP/D/E/L/N, bootable installer, kernels, testing/, Slackbook)" actually doenst make sense to someone not proficient in slackware :P [03:37] oobe: well Sun Solaris or AIX / Linux skills ;) [03:37] someone reading that would probably have asked whats all those. [03:37] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-141-152-185-224.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:38] someone not paying attention would listen to some random folk on the irc [03:38] powtrix^ (n=powtrix@189-69-17-51.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:38] A: base system, ap: console apps, d: compilers "and stuff", e: emacs, l: libs, n: networking tools [03:38] BP{k}, im actually looking for good examples of cv's [03:38] anyway back to work. [03:39] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-113.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:39] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [03:39] eek.. he constantly leaves.. oh well.. his problem [03:41] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [03:42] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:42] Is there another package browser besides slackwre.it? I can't locate the package that has libfontconfig.so.1 [03:42] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [03:43] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-18-27.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:44] slava_dp: fontconfig-2.6.0 [03:44] macavity, thanks [03:45] macavity, w00t? :-) [03:45] eek [03:45] Strykar_: : fontconfig [03:46] Strykar_: grep for libfontconfig.so, not .so.1, as the symlinks are set up via a script [03:47] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-166.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:48] tpocra (n=kvirc@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:48] macavity, that was it, thanks. [03:48] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c6290f@gateway/web/freenode/x-abzwpmipqvprraji) joined ##slackware. [03:48] nvision_ (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [03:49] powtrix- (n=powtrix@189-69-18-157.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:51] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. 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[04:14] nvision_ (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Client Quit [04:14] wario_ (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-nmlggviduldjqady) left ##slackware. [04:15] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-nmlggviduldjqady) joined ##slackware. [04:18] slava_dp: It built fine for me. [04:18] foobarz (i=1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:18] mrselfpwn, it builds, but does it work? [04:19] what's the run command? [04:19] ComputerNewb (n=peter@c-67-180-200-131.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:19] like, i launch it and try to add a share, i sees nothing. [04:19] run gigolo [04:19] gigolo: command not found [04:19] that's weird [04:20] eh? /usr/bin/gigolo. did you install the package? :) [04:21] foobarz (i=1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [04:21] i just did [04:22] does it require gnome? [04:22] the README says it does not require nothing. [04:22] patrick05 (n=chatzill@pasuluzey.xs4all.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:23] mrselfpwn, xfce4 uses it [04:23] i'm actually trying to run it on slack12.2 with xfce. [04:24] haha, i installed it to my server. oops [04:24] lol [04:25] slava_dp, if you open gigolo from a console...any errors? [04:25] MLanden, no errors, works fine, just shows nothing. if I run "gigolo -l" which is supposed to list available network protocols, it shows only "file". [04:27] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:28] so, does it show any other protocols on slack 13.0 ? [04:29] i might think that it's 12.2 at fault here [04:30] ChArLoK_16 (i=42c6290f@gateway/web/freenode/x-abzwpmipqvprraji) left irc: [04:30] slava_dp, looking at the slackbuild for 13.0..do you have gnome-mount installed? [04:31] pat|nG (n=pating@unaffiliated/patng/x-0494689) joined ##slackware. [04:31] MLanden, gnome-mount is bundled with gigolo. it's a script that wraps around exo-mount. [04:32] i'm sorry, gotta run now, work calls. i'll be back soon, hope someone solves this :) [04:32] slava_dp, right...just checked pkgtool [04:32] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:33] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [04:38] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-138-175.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:38] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@193.239.140.184) joined ##slackware. [04:39] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-138-175.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [04:51] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:54] xtrender1 (i=1000@89.214.108.225) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:00] wertik_rus (n=wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [05:11] xtrender (i=1000@89.214.108.251) joined ##slackware. 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[07:09] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-181-18-157.lns7.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:11] GooseYArd (n=GooseYAr@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [07:11] evilaz (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:12] theblackerbox (n=sammo@92.25.70.208) joined ##slackware. [07:14] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [07:16] Delahunt (n=robert@fe219-115.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [07:17] How to add a program to path? [07:18] put it in one of the folders in $PATH? [07:18] add to $PATH ? [07:18] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-sqmygojunblfxlzv) joined ##slackware. [07:18] Gunvald (i=1000@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [07:19] Gunvald (i=1000@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) left ##slackware. [07:19] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-181-18-157.lns7.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [07:19] I want to add mplayer to path to start when I run tmux attach. [07:22] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:22] alreadygone (i=1000@59.103.193.200) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:22] m0n-E (n=m0ney@adsl-70-233-149-86.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:23] Axius, add the program's path to /etc/ld.so.conf and then run ldconfig [07:23] i'm surprised mplayer isn't in your path [07:23] did you compile this as root? did you use a package? [07:24] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-181-18-157.lns7.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:24] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [07:24] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-155-158.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:25] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Nick collision from services. [07:25] Delahunt, true. it should be in /usr/bin I guess [07:25] theblackerbox (n=sammo@92.25.70.208) left ##slackware. [07:26] Delahunt: no, I did not compile mplayer as root. [07:26] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [07:27] can you compile it as root? (all you'd have to do now is "make install" as root iirc) [07:27] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:28] mujahid (n=gabriel@201.6.245.210) joined ##slackware. [07:29] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [07:29] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:29] that's exactly what I did.I only did make install as root. [07:29] then it ought to be in your path 8-S [07:30] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: "Leaving" [07:30] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) joined ##slackware. [07:31] xtrender (i=1000@188.140.37.148) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:31] prashant (i=1000@219.64.181.55) joined ##slackware. [07:35] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-153-143.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. 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[07:43] try make bzImage [07:43] (capital "i") [07:43] Delahunt: ok [07:43] Delahunt: just 1 min [07:43] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [07:44] ls [07:44] mrselfpwn, so, any hint as to gigolo? [07:45] Stx (i=stx@freenode/staff/stx) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:46] Delahunt: it's in process [07:47] prashant, you're welcome 8-) [07:47] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: "Leaving" [07:48] I just issue 'make' ;-) [07:50] PhotoJim (n=jim@adelaide.ip6.photojim.ca) joined ##slackware. [07:51] slava_dp: i get and error and it doesn't see my samba shares [07:51] Connecting to "(null)://(null)/" failed. [07:52] mrselfpwn, i suspect it actually needs gnome-vfs. interesting, did the packager even test if the program works? [07:52] mrselfpwn, thanks for testing though. i appreciate. [07:53] hmm not sure [07:53] no problem [07:53] Delahunt: after copying bzImage to /boot , updating lilo.conf and running lilo, is there any other steps needed? [07:53] i needed to setup that samba share anyway. ;) [07:53] make modules && make modules_install [07:53] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [07:53] and if you need one, mkinitrd [07:53] prashant: cp System.map /boot/ [07:53] Delahunt: ok [07:54] not needed though good [07:54] mrselfpwn: ok [07:55] Delahunt: mkinitrd is not there in lilo.conf, so, i guess i don't need it [07:55] Delahunt: what do you say? [07:57] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:58] prashant: it's all in the slackbook [07:59] oxiredo_ro (n=dorin_ro@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. 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[08:09] mirmillo (i=axius@friedman.ivoltaire.org) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:09] chopp: thanks for the link [08:10] you're welcome [08:11] evilaz (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [08:11] alreadygone (i=1000@59.103.212.54) joined ##slackware. [08:11] prashant (i=1000@219.64.181.55) left irc: "Leaving" [08:12] hi, where can I find libglade2? it's not on SB [08:13] here: http://glade.gnome.org/ [08:13] thanks guax [08:13] to build from source of course [08:13] yes [08:13] alreadygone, /usr/lib/libglade-2.0.so.0.0.7 [08:13] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [08:14] not this one? [08:14] Axius (n=fd@109.97.33.85) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:14] slava_dp, I'm trying to run gruler and I get this error: ./utils/addons_ruby.rb:51:in `orig_require': no such file to load -- libglade2 (LoadError) [08:15] uhh... ruby [08:15] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [08:15] [ installed ] - libglade-2.6.4-i486-2 [08:15] hummm [08:15] run kruler, it works at least [08:15] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [08:15] guax, that's what i said :) [08:15] i'm on xfce [08:15] Axius (n=fd@109.97.33.85) joined ##slackware. [08:15] alreadygone: have the ruby bindings to libglade? [08:15] alreadygone, dont you need a ruby binding to libglade? [08:15] shit, people are fast here [08:16] where can I get those? [08:16] or to gtk, it's maybe integrated in that [08:16] guax: bah, luck, and I'm actually the author of ocaml bindings to gtk ;-) [08:16] Axius (n=fd@109.97.33.85) left irc: Client Quit [08:16] (well, not to gtk but to other gtk-related libs) [08:17] what would be the package's name? I searched for ruby on SB and did not see anything interesting.... other than ruby-gtk2 which I already installed [08:17] =P [08:17] gtk-ruby or ruby-gtk I guess [08:17] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.48.80) joined ##slackware. [08:17] but probably not on sbo [08:17] ruby stuff is installed in a pretty weird way, through their gem repo. [08:18] ok, is there any alternative to KRuler in xfce? other than gruler. [08:18] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:18] get rubygems from SBo. but research first. [08:18] ok [08:18] Axius (n=fd@109.97.33.85) joined ##slackware. [08:18] kruler works here [08:18] here too [08:19] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:19] doesnt work here [08:19] im just kidding. of course it does [08:20] I don't want to use anything from KDE. doing so loads KDE libraries into memory... If I wanted that I would use KDE instead of xfce [08:20] kde rulez [08:21] alreadygone, http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-pixelruler/index.html :-D [08:21] thanks slava_dp :) [08:21] O_O [08:22] XD [08:22] debianadmin.com :: Google: "Visiting this site may harm your computer" [08:23] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:24] What terminal multiplexer do you guys use? [08:24] Zordrak, just because it contains debian in the name doesn't make it harmless :) [08:24] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Client Quit [08:25] Axius, my multiplexer is Alt+Tab + 6 Terminals open ;) [08:25] no.. but debian admin is (afaik) a trustud site [08:29] sahk0 (n=grbzks@ppp-94-68-153-60.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:30] Tabmow (i=terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) got netsplit. [08:30] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) got netsplit. [08:30] PhotoJim (n=jim@adelaide.ip6.photojim.ca) got netsplit. 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[08:36] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) got lost in the net-split. [08:36] glarb (i=1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) got lost in the net-split. [08:36] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) got lost in the net-split. [08:36] gartt (n=gart@ip68-0-206-237.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [08:36] glarb (i=1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:36] is there a Slackware app that will record whatever is going through your sound card? [08:36] mag0o (i=20001@74.255.51.210) joined ##slackware. [08:36] slava_dp: though maybe you can help me with an issue i'm having. :) I have my samba shares set up now thanks to your motivation and can mount them fine in linux though in windows I recieve a user name and pass box when attempting to access the shares though the user/pass do not work. [08:37] alphad (n=quassel@41.207.31.140) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:38] dchmelik, Not really. Sound sound cards (the SB Live! comes to mind) support a 'mix' recording device, though. [08:38] dchmelik, cat /dev/sound > dump.wav might work [08:38] The-Croupier (n=The-Crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [08:39] Salutations [08:39] i mean /dev/audio [08:39] and i dont know if that would work just might [08:41] thanks. oobe [08:41] I have an Audigy so I should have some mix device [08:41] the device is useless unless there is some program [08:41] i just tested what i sugested and it didnt work [08:42] Yeah, that would only work if his sound card supports a 'mix' recording device. [08:42] And I'd actually suggest using 'rec' in that case, anyway. [08:43] dchmelik, Depends on the Audigy. Some are emu10k1/2 chips and, if it is, is should support that recording device. [08:43] Many audigy's are not emu10k1/2 chips, and I'm not sure in that case. [08:44] actually it is an Audigy 2 [08:44] I vaguely recall of hearing about extra alsa modules and configuration that would create a loopback device that you can record from. [08:44] mrselfpwn: what security type? [08:45] mohaa (n=nome@188.115.67.242) left irc: Success [08:46] prashant (i=1000@59.161.159.190) joined ##slackware. [08:46] nix_chix0r (n=hellokit@97-127-215-39.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [08:46] dchmelik, arecord might be what your looking for [08:46] i am trying rec and it seems to be working [08:46] but how do i end a rec? [08:46] control-c [08:47] use the any key [08:47] Zordrak: user [08:47] maybe both rec and arecord will work [08:47] mrselfpwn: created users with "smbpasswd -a" ? [08:47] Zordrak: it's also not showing up on the workgroup list even though it is the same workgroup [08:48] Zordrak: yes [08:48] it may be the workgroup [08:48] windows has a hissy fit when workgroups dont match [08:48] maybe theres something up with the browser election [08:48] mirmillo (i=axius@friedman.ivoltaire.org) joined ##slackware. [08:49] logs? debug/auth/sys logs? [08:49] hmm let me look. [08:49] Guest61423 (n=grbzks@ppp-94-68-153-60.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [08:50] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:50] heh i've been looking at everything else. [08:50] NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE [08:50] in the server side logs [08:51] thought i think they are old. [08:52] alreadygone (i=1000@59.103.212.54) left irc: "Leaving" [08:55] thanks for telling me about rec and arecord. What software packages are they in? I might like to ask on their channels if there are any.... [08:56] nm, i see they are in SoX and ALSA [08:58] When I try to view a file with mc I get this msg: zsh: command not found: 3 . What shall I do? [08:59] set associations? (/me doesn't use mc) [08:59] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [08:59] komesti (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:00] Axius: how do you try to view a file? with the internal mc viewer (aka pressing F3) ? [09:01] prashant (i=1000@59.161.159.190) left irc: Client Quit [09:01] dchmelik: if you do not have a mix,mux or aux control in alsamixer then pulseaudio might work [09:01] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-sqmygojunblfxlzv) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:01] see ~/.mc/bindings anyway [09:01] sahk0: yes with 3 [09:01] F3 not 3 [09:02] dchmelik: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php?title=Matrix:Module-aloop [09:02] gnubien, i do not know if i have those, but as i said, rec and arecord are working [09:02] those are the function key shortcuts in the bottom [09:02] dchmelik: run this: alsamixer -c 0 [09:02] you just put 3 in the command line and expect it to work. [09:02] it doesnt that way [09:03] sahk0: thank you! [09:03] np, it was easy:) [09:03] I ran it, but I did not feel like checking my mixer right now... since the commands work that stuff must be there [09:03] i stayed up all night [09:03] Action: dchmelik ZZZZZ [09:05] dragon player sucks. im going back to smplayer [09:07] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [09:08] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.48.80) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:08] thumbs (i=1000@24.200.141.179) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:09] california is getting hammered with rain, after all the drout and fires last year the rain is going to cause some serious mud slides [09:09] Pig_Pen: surf's up! ;) [09:09] Pig_Pen: mud surfing that is :) [09:10] you better not wipe out suring a mud slide :) [09:10] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:10] Pig_Pen: and dont roller skate in a buffalo hurd :) [09:11] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.48.80) joined ##slackware. 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[09:37] <_abc_> has someone here successfully operated dhcpd to serve vlan interface on a slackware 13.0 box? i read some conflicting accounts about dhcpd's capability [09:38] kloeri (i=kloeri@freenode/staff/exherbo.kloeri) joined ##slackware. [09:38] what happened when you tried [09:40] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) got lost in the net-split. [09:40] heaumer (n=heaumer@91.121.15.173) got lost in the net-split. [09:40] Shuren (n=Devilman@host200-237-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) got lost in the net-split. [09:40] tank-man (i=1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) got lost in the net-split. [09:40] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) got lost in the net-split. [09:40] CaptObviousman (n=The_Capt@unaffiliated/captobviousman) got lost in the net-split. [09:40] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) got lost in the net-split. [09:40] Skaperen_ (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) got lost in the net-split. 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[09:54] jgor (n=jgor@loki.indiecom.org) got lost in the net-split. [09:54] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-174-54-122-211.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) got lost in the net-split. [09:54] ml4711_ (n=morten@0x50a69862.rdnxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) got lost in the net-split. [09:54] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) got lost in the net-split. [09:54] zalost (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) got lost in the net-split. [09:54] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.48.80) got lost in the net-split. [09:54] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-28-214.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:54] so theres an update [09:55] powtrix- (n=powtrix@189-69-18-102.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Connection timed out [09:57] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [09:58] in less than ten days I think [09:58] <_abc_> straterra: i read that dhcpd has trouble with the vlan tagged packets it might see. [09:59] freebse (n=freebse@ip-109-40-178-135.web.vodafone.de) left irc: "Leaving" [09:59] _abc_: it won't see any vlan tagged packets [10:00] That's the whole point of each vlan getting its own interface [10:00] <_abc_> in my setup iw might [10:00] <_abc_> *it [10:00] Then you have your dhcp server configured incorrectly [10:00] You don't tell dhcp to listen on the hardware interface, you tell it to listen on the vlan interfaces [10:00] <_abc_> this is related to the 'reorder headers' settings in vconfig which specifically mentions that dhcpd might get confused by tagged packets [10:01] Action: straterra headdesks [10:01] dhcpd doesn't need to know about vlans at all [10:01] That's the whole point of vlans getting their own interface [10:01] <_abc_> sure i know the theory and the warning is in the vconfig manual so i amasking [10:01] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-28-62.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:01] Well..its not theory. It's practice [10:02] Configure it properly and dhcpd won't know jack about vlans [10:02] <_abc_> in short, has someone here cussessfully operated isc dhcpd from slacware 13.0 with vlan ? [10:02] I've answered your question like 30 times now [10:02] <_abc_> hehe cussessfully funny slip. i mean cussessfully [10:02] <_abc_> oh cut and paste is bad [10:02] <_abc_> straterra: okay, thans, but did you operate such a setup? and did it work? [10:03] I admin numerous vlan dhcp devices [10:03] <_abc_> and i meant successfully of course [10:03] And yes, it works [10:05] slack_fish (n=slack_fi@59.72.110.45) left irc: Client Quit [10:05] slack_fish (n=slack_fi@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [10:05] powtrix| (n=powtrix@189-69-22-179.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:08] jg71 (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:08] jg71 (n=edud@76.74.129.199) joined ##slackware. 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[10:29] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [10:29] sahk0: looks like she had too much taters & gravy [10:30] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: "Leaving" [10:30] powtrix- (n=powtrix@189-69-21-29.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:30] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:32] sahk0, Sweet, gotta love easy entry [10:33] oh, he left = / [10:33] flrichar: more specific... errors etc [10:34] cannot create dbm cache at [10:34] where path is /var/run/httpd/gnutls (w/ proper perms) [10:34] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-24-150.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:34] thats in apache's error log from the mod_gnutls module [10:34] Nick change: guaxinim -> guax [10:35] if dbm support wasnt available surely mod_gnutls would not have compiled support for it [10:35] sounds more like something simple has been overlooked [10:35] The-Croupier (n=The-Crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [10:35] hmm [10:36] could be. I'm using it w/o cache right now [10:36] but I checked config.log for errors and it didn't complain [10:36] Zordrak: well for some reason it appears to be only that Windows machine that is unable to connect to the smb share. which is okay because it's an old computer i was just testing with [10:37] flrichar: /usr/include/apr-1/apr_dbm.h [10:37] wertik_rus (n=wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: "Leaving" [10:37] mrselfpwn: f'nuff [10:38] flrichar: so support definitely exists [10:38] try putting the cache file in /tmp just to test it out? [10:39] good idea [10:39] I will try that [10:41] powtrix| (n=powtrix@189-69-26-248.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:42] get the same error: Cannot Created DBM Cache at /tmp [10:44] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "leaving" [10:45] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:45] mohaa (n=nome@188.115.67.242) left irc: Connection timed out [10:45] hm config sasys memcache lib not found [10:45] but I was under the impression that was an alternative to dbm [10:46] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:47] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: "Leaving." [10:50] hm slack 13 (current) has gnutls 2.8.4 [10:50] latest is 2.8.5, there was a bugfix in relation to session data [10:53] gnutls is one of those projects run by brain-dead devs. You can never just willy-nilly upgrade it 'cause every upgrade breaks something. [10:55] lol [10:55] well I'm wanting to try sni in mod_gnutls [10:56] evilaz (n=art@216.6.155.17) left irc: Client Quit [10:56] which openssl will not have until 0.99 [10:56] in fact its working now, with no cache [10:57] Nick change: davi` -> cybErpunk [10:57] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-zqsikvgloylzxlxj) joined ##slackware. [10:59] ljubak (n=ljubak@cable-89-216-131-254.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [11:00] Reaver (n=User@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [11:00] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [11:02] slackguru (n=slackgur@63-228-161-94.cdrr.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:02] furetto (n=chatzill@93-41-173-182.ip82.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [11:03] hi all [11:03] Reaver (n=User@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:03] can witchone that can help me for NVIDIA drivers on slackware13 64 bit? [11:04] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:10] i think , cause in other distro.....need upgrade the system before and only after install drivers [11:10] http://www.nvidia.it/Download/index.aspx?lang=it [11:11] slackware 13 is the latest stable, maybe there are some security upgrades, but it's not necessary to upgrade before install nvidia drivers [11:12] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.10) joined ##slackware. [11:13] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:13] bhanson (i=bhanson@isafailure.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:14] ok, thnks Shuren [11:14] np [11:15] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:15] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:23] _abc_ (n=no@unaffiliated/ccbbaa) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:26] aryr100 (n=aryr100@cpe-67-248-212-47.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[11:48] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:53] ha figured out my dbm problem [11:53] its not just the path, its the filename [11:53] duh [11:56] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [11:57] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.96.27.29) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:57] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.105.92) joined ##slackware. [11:57] flrichar (n=FredR@kkvm.geexology.org) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:01] \o/ [12:01] Action: Zordrak told you so :) [12:03] darylc (n=darylc@166.205.137.200) joined ##slackware. [12:04] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [12:04] gunvald (i=1000@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) left ##slackware. [12:04] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.105.92) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:04] | [12:05] has anyone tried to boot slackintosh on qemu-system-ppc? [12:06] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. 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[12:22] anavel: by using a dual layer dvd? [12:22] got error "the current mkisofs cannot support it". Something like that. [12:23] xtrender (i=1000@89.214.210.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:23] hofmannn (i=c8fc0cc3@gateway/web/freenode/x-beizxhzwlegqdxmq) left irc: Client Quit [12:23] anavel: I do it all the time here, on 12.2 and 13.0 [12:24] weird, i can't. I am using slack 13.0 [12:25] anavel: using k3b? [12:25] by using k3b and bashburn. same thing. [12:25] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@79.114.68.152) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:26] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-47.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:26] duallayer-burn works in k3b for me [12:27] might be driver-realated [12:27] yeah. [12:27] *related [12:27] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:29] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [12:29] what's that mean ? 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[12:48] s/not/no/ [12:48] im talking to you in X right now right .. i did a ctrl+alt+f3 and im running an update on that tty .. is there a way i can view that tty via x .. almost likea live mode or a tail [12:49] cat /dev/cvs3 [12:49] next time, use screen and/or redirect to a file so you can log and check the file (tail -f :-) ) [12:50] yea most session i run with screen [12:50] just the update i just ran it [12:50] Camarade_Tux: i have no cvs3 [12:51] zecafig (n=zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) left irc: "POF!" [12:51] isn't that /dev/tty* [12:52] vcs3 [12:52] crap, I typo'ed and corrected with the same typo >< [12:52] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:53] you'll probably want to resize your terminal so that it fits the size of your console [12:53] Camarade_Tux: ah, yes, vcs [12:54] zecafig (n=zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) joined ##slackware. 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[13:27] umm [13:28] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-142-68.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:28] Guest22368 (i=1000@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) left ##slackware. [13:29] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:29] alpha (n=alpha@host55.190-228-218.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [13:30] hi, does anybody knows where can i get libstk0-dev sources/tgz? [13:31] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:32] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:32] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:35] sveva65 (n=sverre@unaffiliated/sveva65) joined ##slackware. [13:38] anyone? [13:39] does STK have a webpage? [13:40] john_dee (n=id@95-29-15-188.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:40] did you look? [13:40] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [13:40] here, I'll type it into google [13:40] thrice`, yes. Ive couldnt find anythiong [13:40] anything* [13:41] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=libstk+linux [13:41] http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=libstk+stk+linux [13:41] there is a libstk.net but it doesnt seems to work [13:41] first hit [13:41] https://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/stk/index.html [13:42] eviljames: its better if you put the lmgfty link in is.gd [13:42] good thinking [13:42] even more passive aggressive that way. [13:43] hehe [13:43] i hate blu-ray [13:46] SuBmUnDo (n=SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) left irc: "CyberScript - the horny script (www.cyberscript.org)" [13:48] ChArLoK_16 (n=khalled@188.247.0.154) joined ##slackware. [13:48] ChArLoK_16 (n=khalled@188.247.0.154) left irc: Client Quit [13:50] Artio (n=_@port-91406.pppoe.wtnet.de) joined ##slackware. [13:52] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:58] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:00] mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:06] any of you guys rip a blu-ray with a regular computer ? [14:11] daidoji (n=daidoji7@adsl-99-27-128-66.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:12] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [14:14] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-47.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [14:14] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:15] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.28.198) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:16] Goliath (n=goliath@unaffiliated/goliath) joined ##slackware. [14:16] how can i fix this error? http://pastebin.com/m574502e1 [14:17] error_developer_ (n=errordev@host81-152-48-183.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:17] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.25.245) joined ##slackware. [14:18] macman_ (n=macman@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:18] macman_: pretty sure it's meant to be as hard as ... [14:19] too late [14:19] axius (n=oijhif@92.84.26.112) joined ##slackware. [14:21] adaptr (n=adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) joined ##slackware. [14:21] zecafig (n=zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) left irc: "POF!" [14:21] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:22] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [14:24] Goliath: pychess is a gnome application [14:24] yes [14:24] so cant i use it? [14:25] do you have gnome installed? [14:25] only gtk [14:25] and some deps [14:26] heres what gentoo says its dependencies are: http://gentoo-portage.com/games-board/pychess/Dep#ptabs [14:26] eg. gnome-python-desktop sounds an awful one [14:28] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-141-169-195.range86-141.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:29] brbrbr (n=Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [14:30] sirslacker (n=sirslack@tmo-099-244.customers.d1-online.com) joined ##slackware. [14:31] alpha (n=alpha@host55.190-228-218.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [14:32] Goliath (n=goliath@unaffiliated/goliath) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:35] holy crap :o [14:35] gnome-python-desktop is really meant to be one of the least portable lib [14:39] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30CB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [14:39] MOVNTDQA (i=1000@static-71-244-42-15.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:54] pat|nG (n=pating@unaffiliated/patng/x-0494689) left irc: [14:55] just noticed: http://www.youtube.com/html5 [14:56] MReimer_ (n=chatzill@p4FD4A237.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [14:57] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:58] evilaz (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [14:59] oh its in osnews already [15:00] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: "flw" [15:03] Delahunt (n=robert@fe219-115.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [15:03] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201204959]" [15:03] Nick change: [OpenSys] -> OpenSys [15:06] it's everywhere ;-) [15:06] and it's in h264 ;-) [15:07] KingTarquin (n=KingTarq@rustybolt.fuzzy-logic.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:09] brbrbr (n=Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:11] so no FF? 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[15:15] anyone use R1soft ? [15:15] well people say it doesnt work that well yet anyway [15:15] even on chrome [15:16] it aint working for me on srware iron [15:16] sahk0: still in early beta afaik, should prolly be called alpha actually [15:16] i even tried the internet explorer chrome frame shit [15:16] guax (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:16] maybe i have to restart ie, i duno [15:16] too lazy [15:16] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: ":wq!" [15:19] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "/\x" [15:19] you would [15:21] <_juan> k3b does not finish burning my dvd's it just stays stuck at 99% and does not close the session. This happens when burning iso's Using slackware 13 64 bits. Any ideas? [15:22] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:22] wescotte (n=wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:22] _juan, sos vos el de Rosario ? [15:23] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:23] <_juan> no disco_stu [15:23] _juan, sorry to bother [15:23] sirslacker (n=sirslack@tmo-099-244.customers.d1-online.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:24] I'm trying to fix a virus ridden Windows machine for a friend.. Anyone recommend a decent free app (preferably something I can d/l a bootable CD/DVD for) that will let me make an image of their current HD? [15:24] yeah people say k3b in 13.0 does that. maybe you could try updating it to latest alpha version [15:24] <_juan> no problem disco_stu [15:24] btw for burning isos the cli is much more comfortable [15:25] wescotte: try clonezilla [15:25] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [15:25] <_juan> that is true sahk.... [15:26] dd, tar, or unison? 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[15:29] Camarade_Tux: want to preserve the fdisk info and all in a single image file just incase they don't like having linux on their machine so I can easily restore it [15:30] if you want *everything*, go for dd [15:30] not very hard [15:30] dd if=/dev/sda of=some_file bs=64k [15:30] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: "leaving" [15:30] (I think 'k' works) [15:31] wescotte: just pass the bs= to ensure you pick up the MBR [15:31] dd is one of the most useful tools ever :) [15:31] and you can also compress it with gzip before writing it to the disk because otherwise it takes as much space as the drive [15:31] bs= is for bytes at a time [15:31] (it can take some time) [15:31] time I have :) [15:32] Camarade_Tux, are you implying that ntfs-clone doesn't grab "everything"? [15:32] so i'd use dd if=/dev/hda of=/tmp/bubba bs=4096 etc [15:32] yeah, but mbr lives on first 384 blocks of the device usually [15:32] Delahunt: it'll grab the partition but I don't think it'll grab more (mbr for instance) [15:33] but sfdisk is pretty useful for MBR [15:33] sfdisk -d /dev/sda > sda.partitions [15:33] well first off, /dev/sda is the entire drive [15:33] so with that dd command it'll copy bit for bit the entire HD to a file which I can restore via swapping the if/of parms.. and it'll retain all partition data etc.. [15:33] well yeah, modify accordingly [15:33] the MBR is the first 512k of the drive itself [15:33] whereas ntfsclone works on the NTFS filesystem [15:34] first 384 for MBR [15:34] bs= has http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record [15:34] my mistake: first 512 BYTES [15:34] Delahunt: as I understood it, wescotte wanted to clone the whole disk [15:34] ive always been told first 384, but whatever works [15:34] "always been told" != truth 8-) [15:35] kk guy [15:35] Yeah I just want to clone the entire disk just incase they want it restored exactly how it was.. [15:35] the only issue cloning the whole disk is going to cause is that you will not be able to dump it to a drive of any other physical size [15:35] wescotte: if you are using dd i'd do teh entire drive, then go back and use sfdisk for the mbr just to be safe [15:35] With that entire disk clone can I mount partitions from it? so I can copy back all their documents and whatnot to the newly installed linux setup? [15:35] sfdisk -d /dev/sda > sda.partitions [15:36] Delahunt: yeah, but you can mount everything [15:36] afaik you can't loop mount an entire drive image (how are you going to tell it to mount it as a drive and then mount the first partition within it?) [15:36] you can :-) [15:36] If I do dump the clone it'll go back to the exact same HD.. [15:36] i.e. mount is looking for a filesystem, sda itself is not a filesystem [15:36] for this case.. [15:37] i could be wrong but i'm not seeing how mount will work [15:37] Delahunt: when you use fdisk, it tells the kernels to update its list of partitions, same here [15:37] now if it were sda1, sure, since sda1 is ntfs filesystem [15:37] you're not getting my point [15:37] well, it doesn't work very well for me and I have to mount using -o offset=X, but you can ;-) [15:37] (and it should work) [15:37] Delahunt: well I can clone the entire drive as is with dd.. Then clone the NTFS partition so I can mount it and copy specific data back onto the fresh install [15:37] Action: Delahunt shrugs [15:38] it's your life. me, i wouldn't do something unless i knew for sure it would work perfectly [15:38] now, sure, copy from one drive to another, same size, it should work [15:39] but i don't know about the mounting [15:39] its possible [15:39] you need the offset point [15:39] if it's the same disk, you just-don't-care (tm) [15:39] sure and pigs flying is possible lol [15:39] partprobe! [15:39] yeah it's the same disk [15:39] or kpartx if you want [15:39] just gotta deal with the whole thrust to weight issue 8-) [15:39] wescotte: hold, I;'ll find out [15:39] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-182-053.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:40] they'll both give you a /dev/[hs]d[a-z][0-9]+ entry [15:40] Delahunt: pigs flying is possible [15:40] OT: can someone try the following and tell me if they conenct? https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order [15:40] you still aren't getting my point but oh well [15:40] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Floyd_pigs [15:40] All I'm going to do is backup their entire drive bit for bit to a file.. So I can restore it if they don't like it.. Then I'd like to copy the NTFS partition to another image so I can just mount it and find what they want to keep. Then install linux.. move what they want back to the drive and keep the original complete image as a just in case [15:41] NyteOwl: nope [15:41] NyteOwl: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ [15:41] sadsfae, lol love pink floyd [15:41] (tried on two different connections) [15:41] Camarade_Tux: thanks [15:41] "On the second day, the marksman wasn't present because no one had told him to return, and the pig broke free due to a strong gust of wind on the third day, gaining a lot of press coverage. It disappeared from sight within five minutes, and was spotted by airline pilots at forty thousand feet in the air. Flights at Heathrow Airport were cancelled as the huge inflatable pig flew through the path of [15:41] aircraft, eastwards from Britain and out over the English Channel, finally landing on a rural farm in Kent that night." [15:42] hahaha huge inflatable pig [15:42] Action: Delahunt uses lzma for ntfsclone/dd stuff only due to size considerations [15:43] wescotte: mount -t ext3 /mnt/sdc1/rdb-hdc.img 1 -o loop,offset=2031676416B is an example [15:44] sahk0: That site doesn't like all url's. this is one of them [15:44] trying to remember how I got the offset, I think it was from fdisk [15:44] NyteOwl: yes i noticed too [15:47] sirslcaker_ (n=sirslack@tmo-105-101.customers.d1-online.com) left irc: Connection timed out [15:50] windows has some evil disk partitioning tools, it will end a partition just anywhere and not round it off by sectors so Linux disk tools will freak out when you try to use any disk partitioning tools on it within linux (live cd or installer) [15:50] mujahid (n=gabriel@201.6.245.210) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:50] Pig_Pen: I have been through that today, twice. [15:51] Pig_Pen: notably, Dell ships laptops with invalid partition tables! [15:51] you can get the offset from "sfdisk -l -uS /dev/disk". that gives the offset to the partition in sectors, then multiply by 512 to get offset to pass to mount. [15:51] someone at microsoft ought to be taken out behind the wood pile and be beaten within an inch of thir life with a hunk of firewood [15:52] Pig_Pen: it's a wonder the partition is even recognised! [15:52] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [15:53] instead of "/dev/disk", use the dd image name. [15:54] always use Linux for setting up disk partitions, its ok if windows formats its own filesystem but never let it change any partitions schemes [15:54] ugh worst part about working on other people's machines are the insane cases! This HD is gonna be a pain to pull out :) [15:54] Pig_Pen: likewise. [15:54] _juan (i=500@190.204.142.118) left irc: "Leaving" [15:54] zepard (n=zep@unaffiliated/zepard) joined ##slackware. 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[16:05] damn mozilla and their press releases, unless they actually have something it is still vaporware [16:05] mozilla is pissing me off [16:06] firefox has nasty memory leaks that i neeed 40 plugins to make it ok [16:06] hi all [16:06] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.78.49) joined ##slackware. [16:06] jeev there's always links or lynx, those are great browsers! [16:06] jeev, plugins for memory leaks? o.O [16:06] you can always compile and play with Google Chrome. [16:06] telperion (n=Adium@186.28.155.190) left ##slackware. [16:07] heard the linux port of Chrome is kinda crappy [16:07] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.25.245) left irc: "Leaving" [16:07] it works [16:07] Wescotte_ (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:07] Action: Delahunt wishes he could set a flag in /sys or something telling the kernel to kill firefox first if it runs out of memory (i.e. run no swap) lol [16:07] ulimit :-) [16:07] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] anyway, here, FF is always the first to get the OOM killer [16:07] wescotte: I compiled it and am playing a little with it on an Ubuntu machine. seems alright. [16:08] might have to check it out myself [16:08] Worth a try. [16:08] Camarade_Tux, that's not the same afaik 8-P [16:08] it'll self-update on Debian/Ubuntu. I imagine you'll have to do it manually on slackware but compiling from source is not very hard. [16:08] Action: Delahunt uses ulimit to prevent fork bombs [16:08] i'm in windows [16:08] ;) [16:09] jeev, windows ... xp? vista? 7? [16:09] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [16:09] heh I just bought a copy Windows 7 last night.. It's a sad day for me.. [16:10] knowing jeev its win95 [16:10] he uses me [16:10] Action: Delahunt stabs wescotte [16:10] Pig_Pen: nah, I definitely vote for WinMe ;-) [16:10] Camarade_Tux, um, didn't want to know that 8-P [16:10] Delahunt: no choice.. Needed something to run CS4 until a viable NLE/Compositing app is out for linux :( [16:10] he uses me <-- LOL [16:11] wescotte, adobe creative suite 4? [16:11] macavity (n=macavity@212088073004.static.sonofon.dk) left irc: "ZzZzZzZ" [16:11] Delahunt: yup [16:11] wescotte, i feel your pain. you should've sold all your PCs and went with a mac [16:11] :P [16:11] Delahunt: yeah, I realized I couldn't say it in english without adding "windows" ;-) [16:11] wescotte: psychotic break? [16:11] but i feel your pain, i keep my wife updated on creative suite [16:11] Camarade_Tux, 8-) [16:11] Delahunt: I ALMOST did until I realized how much more expensive it would have been for the new Mac + FCP license [16:11] oh so you already HAVE CS [16:12] gotcha [16:12] simplex (n=simplex@twopenguins.it) joined ##slackware. [16:12] vista for now till i get my ssd [16:12] wescotte, bought? pff [16:12] i was researching ssd online last night and it appears people are a bit (too) paranoid about SSD [16:12] i actually have win 7 legit [16:12] Delahunt: yeah I got a student license pretty cheap on an impulse buy last year [16:12] the wear leveling thing at least [16:12] i have ssd on my laptop [16:12] For the few things I use Windowes for XPPro will do for a while eyt [16:12] i have 12 gigs of ram [16:12] so i need a beter 64bit os [16:12] xp 64 blows like Camarade_Tux's sister [16:13] I just bought a i7-920 12gig ram and 2 1TB HDs for a raid 1 setup. Should run well enough [16:13] jeev: sorry, I have no little sister, else you met one of my brother, else you met my dog [16:13] Action: Delahunt hugs wescotte "thank you for NOT USING RAID 0 LIKE A RICER" 8-) [16:13] If my stupid notebook would allow more than 3gig ram I could have probably just stuck it out a little longer with it but it crawls with everything [16:14] heh [16:14] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:14] i don't get people who use RAID 0 and then complain of corrupted data [16:14] Action: NyteOwl wants a 3Ware card to run RAID 6 [16:14] hah, I've never actually worked with a RAID before.. so it'll interesting [16:14] i keep telling them "you should've went RAID 10" (0 + 1, four drives) but they don't listen [16:14] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:14] they want their omgspeed [16:14] 0+1 is not RAID 10 [16:14] Delahunt: because they don't know they're using raid0? [16:15] it's 1+0 [16:15] heh I can do raid 10/01 but I had to buy a stupid Windows 7 license so I went with 2 drives instead of 4 [16:15] more and more OEM use software raid0 : cheaper parts, same capacity, more perf [16:15] mobo has like 8 3G SATA and 2 6gig SATAs so eventually I'll have to toss more drives in [16:15] more and faster death [16:15] that's why RAID0 sucks [16:16] Camarade_Tux: I found the performance gains insignificant , especially when weighed against the possibility of losing the data in the stripe [16:16] if you want a faster drive, instead of IDE/SATA RAID, get some omgSCSI [16:16] not worth it. [16:16] I said *OEM* do that/think that, not I ;-) [16:17] had a conversation with someone yesterday that was frustrating. they pull out their 10" laptop (i.e. "netbook"), i say "i love netbooks", they proceed to argue with me on how it's not a netbook, it has "something" netbooks don't (but she has no clue what), etc [16:17] SCSI is only worth it if you are doing a lot opf database work or a lot of streaming data [16:17] I'll probably play with raid 0 just for kicks but I think raid 1 or 10 is really where I want to be [16:17] i wanted to beat my head against the desk [16:17] though iof you can afford it, why not? :) [16:17] then at the end of the day "oh btw my netbook is identical to your 'notebook' fwiw" [16:18] netbook=small notebook=lightweight laptop :) [16:18] Delahunt: even those new netbooks with better video and dual core Atoms are still netbooks. she's a lunatic :) [16:18] "my owner's manual said notebook" [16:18] it's all semantics [16:18] Delahunt: salesman: "netbooks are slow, but this is not a netbook, it's a notebook, but small, with a long-battery life and it's also less expansive" ;-) [16:18] just start calling everything a computer again :) [16:18] and marketing [16:18] or "tower" or "cpu" [16:18] well she apparently gets offended when people know more than she does, don't know why because i was clearly being a gentleman [16:18] wescotte: amen [16:19] no - not toewer/cpu, computer [16:19] heh [16:19] oh well, i'll just laugh if i get mine today, i'll walk in with it [16:19] nah, not worth it. some people are willingly ignorant [16:19] my teeth ache when my neightbours with keeps refering to their PC as "the hard drive" [16:19] Action: Delahunt finds intentional ignorance his #1 gripe about american culture (not all americans, just some) [16:19] Heh. so it's a faster, better-performing netbook. [16:19] NyteOwl: ah that's what I was going for.. been ages since i heard that one [16:19] Action: wescotte does not miss working for a local PC builder shop [16:20] Delahunt: It isn't just Americans - it's global. I think people LIKE to act stupid [16:20] her "notebook" had the stereotypical connectors: no modem plug, no front ports, two sound, one external vga, one ethernet, two USB, no PCMCIA/PCIe [16:20] no firewire, no sata [16:21] hope she only paid $100 for it [16:21] sounds like a netbook to me. [16:21] it's just frustrating because american mentality preaches education as the key to everything, whether better race or gender relations, jobs, income, etc, and yet then people won't listen to you when you are only trying to teach them something [16:21] I need a new laptop but am totally undecided as to what to get. My current Thinkpad is still very functonal, just want a bit more speed and memory [16:21] Action: Delahunt only paid $170 for his (coming in the mail) + $30 express [16:21] Delahunt: try teaching via song and dance routine.. might work : [16:21] :) [16:21] wescotte, i'd rather gore out an eye [16:22] I got a giant 17" Dell i7 laptop and I already had an Acer Aspire One netbook. Perfect partners. [16:22] sounds like it [16:22] that's what i was thinking myself lol [16:22] I like the combination. [16:22] mothership and scout ship 8-) [16:22] Heh. [16:23] I say a 18" (Toshiba Quismo I think) that was goergeous for the smae price I paid for my Thinkpad oh so many moons ago [16:23] zepard (n=zep@unaffiliated/zepard) left ##slackware. [16:23] the thinkpas has a 12" 800x600 screen :) [16:23] PhotoJim: you have a laptop like that? well, I guess we should start calling 10" netbooks smartphones instead :-) [16:24] s/saw/say/ [16:24] Camarade_Tux: Heh, by comparison it's not too far off... [16:25] I thinknToshiba should introduce an updated Libretto. Those were sweet [16:25] ComputerNewb (n=peter@c-67-180-200-131.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [16:26] doomey (n=omalbast@188.24.11.15) left ##slackware. [16:26] now, I just package my µATX mobo and take it with me, works pretty well as a laptop :P [16:26] quismo = looks like moon boot fashion [16:26] (seriously, it's not bigger than my laptop) [16:27] Camarade_Tux: there are a lot of really small footprint PC's out ther these days. Quite capable too. [16:27] Nick change: _guitarman_ -> _boredatwork_ [16:29] there's a sony netbook that came out that appears to be as powerful as a normal laptop but i'm not sure yet, hold on [16:29] NyteOwl: that was really ironic: the cpu is a phenom ii x4 955: 3.2GHz quad-core ;-) [16:29] :) [16:29] (except I can actually package it and travel with it very easily) [16:29] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:29] compiles gcc in 5 minutes! \o/ [16:29] wescotte (n=wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:29] I was looking at building an HTPC using a Phenom [16:30] P series lifestyle [16:30] NyteOwl: if I open the window, the cpu fan stops [16:30] heh [16:30] it's actually almost hot right now: temp2: +27.0°C (low = +127.0°C, high = +80.0°C) sensor = thermal diode [16:31] NyteOwl: i've found a mac mini to be an excellent htpc box [16:31] ananke: how much does it cost? [16:31] mac needs to put out a netbook [16:31] Delahunt (n=robert@fe219-115.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [16:31] Camarade_Tux: i think new ones start at $599 [16:31] ananke: the Mac Mini is a cute little box. Not sure I want to get involved with Apple :) [16:32] NyteOwl: that's what i used to think too. after years of dicking around with linux on different boxes that i used for htpc, i'm happy to be no longer using those. especially ones put together on your own [16:33] ananke: for 400 EUR (meaning about the same price), I made something with a quad-core, 4GB DDR2, a free OS, a 500GB hard drive which can compile gcc in five minutes, llvm in 7 minutes, my kernel in one minute, encode a standard res video in h264 at 800fps and has a graphic card that supports KMS (which is really nice) [16:33] Camarade_Tux: i think you're missing the point. it's not about getting the most cpu for the least amount of money [16:34] ananke: I believe this is a better htpc than a mac mini [16:34] it's also really silent [16:34] Camarade_Tux: 'better' is relative. we haven't defined any criteria yet [16:34] mac mini is very silent [16:35] didymo (n=ashley@38.142.LCA2010.fx.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [16:35] ananke: the noisest part in my setup is the hard drive ;-) [16:36] Camarade_Tux: i can't hear mac mini. [16:36] I could put an SSD ;-) [16:36] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:37] for the living room, you want it to be as silent as possible. [16:37] but I don't see *any* advantage a mac mini would have over my setup [16:37] now, if we discount the 'fastest machine for the least of money' as a factor in deciding what htpc is used for, we can discuss the merits of various solutions. based on my experience, mac mini won over all of those linux based, self-made solutions [16:37] IMO, the CPU speed should come second. [16:37] thumbs: worse here: it's bedroom [16:37] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:37] Nick change: _boredatwork_ -> _guitarman_ [16:37] Camarade_Tux: I have a 2U next to my bed. [16:38] thumbs: hehe :P [16:38] masterslacker (n=luser@S01060014bfb5a4ef.wp.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:38] Camarade_Tux: i can list a few things: a) ease of setup. you can get it up and running in 5 minutes. b) _working_ spdif for your audio. c) _working_ remote that can wake up the machine when it's asleep, d) smaller footprint [16:38] thumbs: but I can't sleep if there's some noise and I get up very easily [16:38] Camarade_Tux: I don't mind. [16:38] white noise is different than just 'noise' [16:39] ananke: a DELL 2U is not quiet, by any means. [16:39] XGizzmo (n=XGizzmo@216.23.247.74) left irc: Client Quit [16:39] XGizzmo (n=XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [16:39] thumbs: indeed, it's not. which model? [16:39] ananke: 1950 [16:39] thumbs: anyting cooled with 40mm fans isn't quiet :p [16:39] err. [16:39] ouch. those are loud. but it's a 1U [16:39] ananke: 2950 [16:39] maybe 60 in a 2U [16:40] k, those are less loud than 1U models. especially when you start them :) [16:40] ananke: I know, I was next to our rack when we started 9 at the same time. [16:41] ananke: a) definitely, if you don't want to ever get your hands dirty, buy a mac (or maybe an amiga), b) not sure but considering that absolutely everything works on this board, I'd be surprised this didn't, c) not tested yet (will test tomorrow or the week after that), d) right (but if I care about a small box behind a 40" or more tv screen, I'd complain about the mac too) [16:41] Camarade_Tux: not to mention the software that drives my htpc. i use plex, which is by far much easier to use than anything else i've seen [16:41] Action: Camarade_Tux uses zsh [16:42] ananke: those 1U's almost made me fall over. [16:42] I know I'll never agree with anyone buying apple [16:42] Camarade_Tux: that's not the point [16:42] Camarade_Tux: b) have you tried routing all your audio with alsa via spdif? enjoy the amount of work you'll put in. c) i have not seen a remote in linux that can wake up a box that was put to sleep [16:43] Camarade_Tux: see, your opinion on the technological aspects of this discussion are skewed by your political/religious views [16:44] NyteOwl: my current cpu cooler: http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/cpu/034/scsk1000_detail.html [16:44] masterslacker (n=luser@S01060014bfb5a4ef.wp.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:44] I have nothing against Apple's technology - it works quite well. I do consider it overpriced, and I haven't always had the happiest experience with Apple (the company) in the past. [16:44] Action: NyteOwl had a list of 5 items he wanted from Cabela's ... 4 are backordered :( [16:44] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:44] ananke: ah, c), woops, I was thinking about Wake On Lan (misunderstood "remote") [16:45] Camarade_Tux: by all means, i'm glad you found hardware that matches your expectations. however, as you'll learn in the next few weeks, that's only the beginning. a successfull htpc is more about ease of use than about cpu speed [16:45] ananke: but ergh, politicla/religious? wtf? hope it's irony [16:45] ananke: I don't consider a mac as anything near usable, I could as well try to use anything while having my hands tied in my back [16:46] Camarade_Tux: no, it's an observation. when somebody says something like 'Camarade_Tux> I know I'll never agree with anyone buying apple', it's usually derived from their religious/political views than an actual technological perspective [16:46] and that's not bias, that's how I use any computer (you don't want to know what I do to windows boxes) [16:46] Camarade_Tux: I have a new Scythe MiniNinja in abox here just begging to be sued :) [16:46] ananke: ergh ^^ [16:46] NyteOwl: I find frostytech.com pretty awesome for coolers :-) [16:47] Camarade_Tux: just because you don't consider them 'as anything near usable' [to not sure what], doesn't mean they are in fact 'anything near usable' [16:47] slackmaster (n=luser@S01060014bfb5a4ef.wp.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:47] spn (n=spn@adsl-68-122-216-61.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left ##slackware. [16:47] Myt current cooler is a Thermalright HR01 [16:47] NyteOwl: I have to say I went with this one for two reasons: I couldn't find my first choice, and I was afraid of a 1.5kg cooler ;-) [16:47] Camarade_Tux: however, like i said, you will see how much effort building htpc will require. have you picked your software yet? [16:47] Then again it's on a Slightly overclocked Intel extreme quad core [16:48] ananke: thats why I said "*I* *don't* *consider*" [16:48] kitchen timer just went - back after supper [16:48] ananke: using quicktime or itunes? [16:48] Camarade_Tux: is that a question? [16:48] troys (n=troys@h-68-165-100-2.dnvtco56.static.covad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:49] NyteOwl: I undervolted my phenom: from 1.35V top to 1.20V top (when the cpu speed drops, the cpu voltage drops too thanks to Cool'n Quiet and the setting in the bios only applies to the max voltage) [16:50] (I'd be curious to see how cool I can get it without a lower voltage for the 800MHz state) [16:50] ananke: yes (even has a question mark, sorry for the missing "are you" at the beginning of it) [16:51] Camarade_Tux: neither. as i've mentioned earlier, i use plex [16:51] troys (n=troys@h-68-165-100-2.dnvtco56.static.covad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:51] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [16:52] have you picked your software yet? what about other components of your htpc setup - audio / video? [16:53] ananke: the reason I can't stand apple products is that I am restricted in what I can do, and yes, I use mplayer (and if you wonder, everybody think I'm insane) [16:54] and to the channel, sorry [16:54] ananke: bring tthat to ##slackware-offtopic if you want to continue [16:54] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:54] Camarade_Tux: sure. [16:55] woot, youtube has opt-in html5